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Where did you even get this stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:59 PM
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Hunters-gatherers valued women more than civilized men did. https://theconversation.com/why-our-ancestors-were-more-gender-equal-than-us-41902
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:20 AM
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That's straight up false. https://theconversation.com/why-our-ancestors-were-more-gender-equal-than-us-41902
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:19 AM
2

You're ignorant. Go research the Macedonian issue more. It's useless to have this discussion with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:03 AM
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Citation needed that we oppress Turks to an extreme point. Also, you're out of topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:58 AM
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We would have been better off if we remained hunters-gatherers and never built civilization. Hunters-gatherers are happier, more equal, closer to nature. I feel no gratitude towards men for destroying the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:57 AM
7

Yes. The vast majority of men does nothing to question this toxic masculinity. No sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:50 AM
3

Men don't wear masks in order to appear manly and they endanger multiple others in the process. Men get defensive whenever someone DARES to question this toxic masculinity. Sorry, no sympathy for those who don't want to help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:50 AM
4

Women are better people than men. That's an observable thing supported by multiple studies. -Young girls are more likely to be pro-social when there is no expectation of self-reward. Boys are more pro-social as a PR stunt. https://twitter.com/ImHardcory/status/1178251896995352576 -Women are MORE empathetic than men. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-07459-008 -Women are more generous than men. https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/49953/1/49953-01.pdf https://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2017/fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:46 AM
1

Men have obsessively tried to oppress and control women, yet they demand that women feel sympathy for things that they do to THEMSELVES thanks to their masculinity ideology. How about no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:21 AM
4

Nope. Men's problems are caused by the actions of men 90% of the time. Lets look at COVID-19 for example. It's well-known that men are more likely to die from the disease. Poor men, right? Well, don't be quick to feel sorry for them. Recent studies showed that men are LESS likely to wear masks than women are LESS likely to take the lockdown seriously. https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/497814-men-less-likely-to-wear-face-masks-because-theyre-not-cool How can you feel sorry for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:34 AM
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Males were never interested in women for their skills and hobbies which is why they evolved that way. Women on the other hand, appreciated men for their personalities and skills, which is why sexual selection favored them and they evolved that way. If you think women are fundamentally boring, blame men who only bred with women for their appearance and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:01 AM
5

If it keeps incels away from women I'm happy with it. I think people overestimate the influence of sex bots though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:53 PM
4

I don't care. Just don't expect to get laid just because you paid for a drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:21 PM
2

Males with autism tend to be worse off in my opinion. Women are better at understanding communication, even with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:04 AM
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Probably not, but not for the reasons you think. I have a feeling that if I were a man, I would be more like my father who was...dysfunctional to say in the least. Autism did him no favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:44 AM
3

Women should stop having casual sex, unless they're getting paid for it. It's an arrangement that obviously benefits men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:19 AM
4

Come back when misandrists start murdering people the way misogynists do....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:46 PM
5

Men commit suicide more often than women in almost every country, even strictly patriarchal ones where the husband basically owns the wife and kids. And men losing custody is not necessarily "misandrist". Sometimes, it just makes sense. Kids tend to spend more times with their mothers, so of course the mother gets child custody in case of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:42 PM
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Do you people seriously think that misogyny and misandry are equivalent? I didn't expect even TRPillers to be so oblivious to the facts. Do you see many misandrists going into murder sprees the way misogynists do? Has anyone ever died from "misandry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:34 PM
2

Sure, I personally don't give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:53 PM
5

Yes. I have said it before that men only care about appearances and see women as a way to complete their masculine image. They generally don't even see women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:36 PM
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He was a misogynist with a violent past against women and experts believe misogyny and mass shootings are linked. Most mass shooters have a past of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:35 AM
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If you actually bothered to do your research you would see that there are already dozens of programs and orgs dedicated to helping women in poor/patriarchal countries. So your accusations that feminists do nothing about the issue are misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:52 AM
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It is not the job of "enlightened westerners" to force their values on other people. I support the liberation of women in Afghanistan, but they should do it themselves. If it is enforced by westerners, it will only harm them in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:46 AM
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You're just wrong, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:26 AM
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It's a total joke that they think that misogyny and misandry are anywhere near being equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:45 AM
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Didn't that happen like 50 years ago? Any more recent examples? Face it, it is misogyny that is deadly. Misandry is mostly a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:44 AM
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Go live in Afghanistan if you think the patriarchy is so awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:43 AM
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Complete nonsense. Men are more likely to kill themselves in almost every country, even strictly patriarchal ones. Misandry doesn't lead to suicide. If anything it is toxic masculinity that leads to suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:30 AM
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women argue that female bullying is way worse than male bullying Complete nonsense. Women only say that because it is easier for them to manipulate men than women. I used to be like that too. I believed that male friends are better than female friends because female friends are more likely to backstab you. Then I realize that this is just not true as men backstab each other all the time. It only seems that way to women because they can usually "control" their male friends better than they can co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:28 AM
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Men are more likely to kill themselves than women in almost every country, even strictly patriarchal ones. Only China is an exception. This proves that male suicide has little to do with feminism, it's just a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:25 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-neighbor-nova-scotia-gunman-said-she-reported-domestic-violence-2020-5 Misogyny kills. Misandry does not. Come back again when some "misandrist" starts a murder spree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:03 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-neighbor-nova-scotia-gunman-said-she-reported-domestic-violence-2020-5 Apparently the worst ever mass shooter in Canada's history was motivated by misogyny. Who wants to bet he was also a manospherian at some point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:17 AM
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No? You don't normally go to the police for such mild harassment that you can't prove anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:37 AM
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If you say this to a random 15 years old on the street, it's definitely creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:35 AM
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Each RP writer has a slightly different definition of solipsism. According to Rollo, it's that women are more self-centered and less empathetic in general and this is connected to his war brides theory. There is no scientific evidence, it's one of TRP beliefs that you have to accept as gospel. If anything, science shows the opposite, men are generally more narcissistic and less pro-social than women. -Young girls are more likely to be pro-social when there is no expectation of self-reward. Boys …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:34 AM
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Because it's the truth. When you look at vulnerable groups, men are more likely to die. Your recklessness is killing old men, congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:29 PM
4

You wear masks to not infect other people , smart guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:26 PM
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I literally used to know a girl who was obese and ugly af. One day she ran into my house crying. (we were about 15 back then) I asked her "why are you crying," and she said that some man with a motorcycle called her "little star" and started following her. This was the first time it happened to her that's why she reacted so strongly. The rest of us who are not obese have been getting cat-called since we were 13 so we are used to it. It's still annoying but at least we don't burst out crying. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:20 PM
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kpop proves that they do find it attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:17 PM
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This makes no sense. Women take care of their appearance more so they're more beautiful. Men don't take care of their appearance, so they're uglier. 0 reason for there to be an equal number of male and female attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:17 PM
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Men can start wearing make up too. Nothing stops them except other men calling them fags.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:07 PM
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??? There's no reason why there has to be an equal number of male and female attractive people. Maybe women are just prettier, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:02 PM
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Nonsense. Women consistently rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness. Or maybe they're right and men are just uglier than women. It makes sense since they don't care about their appearance as much as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:43 PM
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You can continue being obtuse or face reality. redpillschool explicitly said that the idea that women shouldn't vote is one of the "deeper" RP beliefs and pretty much all Red Pill Vanguards believe it. That blog I linked is explicitly anti-democratic and so is Heartiste Chataeu. I quote from the link: When viewed from the socio-sexual perspective, the inevitable failure of democracy with universal suffrage appears obvious. People like GaiusScaevolus, Archwinger, GaylubeOil and racentamoi or what…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:42 PM
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Many men are fine when the relationship starts and eventually let themselves go and become lazy pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:25 PM
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Every woman that has been sexually active for a long time has been pressured/coerced into sex. Being pressured into sex is not necessarily something illegal. Lets look at one example: Girl goes to guy's house. Guy pressures her to have sex. She says no. He implies that if they don't have sex they will break up/he will cheat on her. She gives in under coercion and they end up having sex. This behavior is not illegal but it is COERCIVE. So yes, women are pressured into sex. All the time. Also, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:18 PM
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I will tell you the truth as someone who has had unenjoyable sex many times. Most men are ugly and gross. They objectively spend way less time on their appearance than women do. They don't care about what they wear, they don't shave, they usually end up being fat pigs in their 30s. There are many men who literally wear the same clothes for WEEKS. Studies show us that men overestimate their own attractiveness all the time, while women are more realistic. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:07 PM
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Well, here's one example. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1bav9c/mod_almost_3000_users_and_a_message_from_the/c959tyk/ Some of the deeper beliefs can appear misogynistic to the uninitiated. Like the view that women shouldn't vote. Or the view that women don't contribute to society. Or the view that women are just over grown teenagers. This is redpillschool, the top mod of TRP. He's saying that TRP believes that women shouldn't vote. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1cuyxl/…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:30 PM
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Red Pill men believe: That women should be kicked out of the workforce, except for one or two "feminine" jobs, like being a babysitter and a nurse. That women shouldn't vote. That any female emancipation "destroys civilization". That non-chaste women are bad/evil. ^These are core beliefs of TRP and I can prove it with direct quotes from high-ranking members of TRP community. These quotes are also a death sentence in upper-middle class/elite circles. Not even conservatives believe such nonsense. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:44 PM
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She was just trying to impress you. Most women don't really enjoy sex and only do it for their partners and for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:58 PM
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Men deserve all the shit they get. Men are more likely to die from covid-19. Yet they're still LESS likely to wear masks than women and less likely to take lockdowns seriously. This shows that any sympathy people have for male plight is severely misguided. Men have it all coming and they'd rather die than abandon the macho attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:48 PM
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Women are bombarded with messages that sex appeal is their only/primary value. What did you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:46 PM
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I suppose Red Pillers shouldn't be concerned over it then. They would unironically support the middle-eastern treatment of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:22 PM
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The problem is that rich people are more likely to marry and stay married than poor people. This should look suspicious to anyone who cares about social equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:59 PM
3

Not all countries have the American rates of obesity!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:54 PM
3

"minorities" are still Americans. When I said anglospherians I meant people who live in the anglosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:59 PM
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Anglospherians have more incels because they're more likely to be obese, it's as simple as that. Good luck getting laid if you can barely go outside your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:38 PM
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Prostitution won't change anything. Incels will still fee entitled to female attention. Soft prostitution is basically already legal in the form of "sugaring" and it doesn't change anything, so idk what people are expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:39 AM
1

Well, why should women have casual sex then? What do they have to gain?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:56 AM
2

Progressives need to stop spreading fake propaganda about how awesome casual sex is. Tell the truth about casual sex and you'll see many women refrain from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:39 PM
8

This advice doesn't sound Red Pill at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:20 PM
7

Just look at how Red Pillers talk about their plates, as if they're literal trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:17 PM
3

Many women report regretting casual sex and many are not as sexually satisfied as men are. Did you miss the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:57 PM
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It was how it worked for hundreds of years. The prevalence of casual sex is a recent thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:54 PM
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They just want to have their cake and eat it too. They despise slutty women, but as soon as women say they're not going to give sex for free, they groan and complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:35 PM
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Many women sleep with non-Chads though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:26 PM
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They shouldn't participate in an activity that is inherently a better deal for men. Some men enjoy "Simping" too, it's doesn't mean it's good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:10 PM
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Just a few weeks ago I posted a pic on /r/truerateme and some dude pmed me and offered me money for an online session. I said no but clearly you're wrong. There are ways to make money from sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:08 PM
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If there was a massive decline in casual sex, more men would offer commitment anyway. Many men don't commit because they can get sex for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:02 PM
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Not at all. Many women only have casual sex because they're pressured into it. Women are more agreeable than men and have a hard time saying no. Also, many women have casual sex because society has brainwashed them into thinking it's a cool thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:00 PM
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At least women gain something when they're whores. If you give up the vagina for free, you often gain NOTHING, not even sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:59 PM
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Tinder is for casual sex and casual sex is a better deal for men than for women. Multiple studies show that straight men are more likely to have orgasms than straight women and that women are more likely to regret casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:43 PM
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If a black man tries to have sex in Thailand, he will probably be lunched by the locals. It only works if you're white or white passing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:44 PM
0

Are you one of these "white hispanics"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:21 PM
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You can do as you like. It's still exploiting white privilege to screw over the local population. At least call it as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:11 PM
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Having sex in poor countries= Exploiting white privilege to screw over the local population. Sorry, that's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:09 PM
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I don't know. My younger brother and his friends like American rap and they listen to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:24 PM
2

So? sixnine literally molested a kid and many men love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:21 PM
4

One Direction definitely got mocked. And JB was not worse than many other celebrities that weren't mocked nearly as much as he was. Lets be honest, he was hated because teenage girls were in love with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:16 PM
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Back in the day, Twilight and JB hate was everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:14 PM
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Justin Bieber, Twilight and One Direction received a disproportionate amount of hatred. Even Leo used to be hated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:13 PM
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It depends on their social class. Rich men will always have options, even if it's just for beta buxxing. Poorer men hit the wall in their late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:35 PM
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Doesn't this make sense? Most couples just can't afford a stay-at-home spouse. Besides, these women usually come from rich families themselves, they have their own inheritance and money. It's not like they're random low class girls that married a rich man and stayed at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:03 PM
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The decline of testosterone is linked to water pollution, so our enlightened masculinists should consider joining the environmentalist cause instead of shaming and attacking it. https://bigthink.com/sex-relationships/men-have-less-testosterone-today?rebelltitem=3#rebelltitem3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:36 PM
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It depends on how close you are with your female friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:50 PM
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It's funny that you mention that because it's actually single men that usually die younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:41 PM
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Most men don't make good companions, that's the point. Most men live parasitically and suck the life out of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:22 PM
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Men complain about not getting women, more than women complain about not getting men. Men are whiny and the internet proved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:03 PM
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He was a man from a poorer family living parasitically from his rich friends because he was too lazy to get a job. His wife was right about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:01 PM
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What you know about ancient Greece comes from a bunch of rich and educated plutocrats, since they were the only ones who had time to philosophize. They were as far from the average Greek person as a Hollywood celebrity to the average worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:48 PM
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Nothing because most men have nothing to offer to a financially independent woman. If you make your own money then what does the average man has to offer? Sex? Literally only men get pleasure from sex most of the time. There are studies that show that straight men have the most orgasms, surpassing even the gays. Straight women on the other hand, have the FEWEST orgasms. Just think about the implications for a bit. It's clear that men can't sexually satisfy women. https://link.springer.com/articl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:56 PM
1

Still, progressive liberal societies tend to be much more stable places than regressive patriarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:12 PM
0

They're not correct about everything, but I believe they're on the right side of history. Once things like transhumanism and genetic engineering take over, gender and race will become completely irrelevant. 50 years from we'll be looking at gender roles the same way we view other primitive practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:10 PM
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What are your issues with the way SJWs are influencing society? Please list your problems with them that are not blatant strawmen or cherrypicked comments from twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:02 PM
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Extreme SJWs will insult you and scream at the sky. Extreme alt-righters will violently deport all non-whites (perhaps even murder most of them in the process) and enforce a fascist ideology. Hard choice between the two, I know. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:53 PM
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I have been telling people that most RPillers are neoreactionaries and alt-righters, but they didn't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:07 PM
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Don't care. My plan is to either remain single or to get married with a high value Chad who I will trick into thinking I'm not autistic. Most males are not worth my time beyond fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:08 AM
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I just get bored of them after a while and I start viewing them as a nuisance. I will stay single unless I find a high value Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:04 AM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:00 AM
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Nah, it was like that since day one. I never loved anyone, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:47 AM
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Many of them have mental problems, plain and simple. It usually has nothing to do with their appearance. Even the ugliest mofos can find a date if they drop their standards enough. These people simply can't date because of their mental issues. Have you tried dating with autism? I am a woman who is a high functioning autist and I believe that autism has hindered my ability to connect with men. I have had many relationships but they were always emotionally empty on my part. Now imagine someone wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:41 AM
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People here deny this and I want to make them admit the truth, plain and simple. There are many useful idiots like /u/rTheGreasyPole who think TRP is apolitical.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:48 AM
2

When did he paint his opponents as “blank statists”. https://therationalmale.com/2019/07/26/heirs-of-the-blank-slate/ Rollo talks with plenty of people on YouTube with differing views. He does not. In fact he has explicitly said that he's unwilling to do debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:48 AM
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That TRP is part of neoreactionaryism. It was literally created by Roissy/Heartiste Chataeu. A man who is neoreactionary and openly racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:46 AM
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People here are denying this truth. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:42 AM
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I thought it could come in handy. I have been trying for years to prove the link between TRP and the Dark Enlightenment/neorectionaryism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:30 AM
1

I didn't comment there. But I have been following the community. I used to be on PPD with another username though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:27 AM
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He looks like an aging lesbian woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:24 AM
0

I have autism and OCD, but it's none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:22 AM
3

I have extensive lists of the most probable political beliefs of most Red Pill ECs and Vanguards. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:19 AM
3

"back in my alpha rock star days"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:15 AM
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He's literally one of the most prominent Red Pillers. If anything, we should discuss him more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:13 AM
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I have been around since 2013. I have studied TRP theory extensively. I probably know more about TRP community than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:12 AM
3

Cry me a river. They're being hypocritical as they criticize women's dual mating strategy while they're doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:12 AM
2

I literally see then complaining all the time about how marriage is dead and about how women are not chaste anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:02 AM
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Just adopt a kid or find a surrogate mother. Problem solved. Aren't most Red Pillers supposed to be rich and successful anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:28 AM
1

whatever you say honey, I'm sure you know better than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:32 PM
1

Hypergamy is totally true and it's an absolute gift. Instead of being like men who want to fuck even trashy women, women actually have standards. The real crime is that some women don't follow their hypergamy and choose to settle for the average low value male.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:39 AM
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Outliers. Or the woman was stuck in a sham marriage where she expected kids but didn't get to have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:10 AM
1

Someone polite and cultured. Loyal to his family but not a simp. Brave and protective. The men who fit the criteria are nearly 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:02 AM
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Only a Chad with an ideal personality. I would settle for nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:49 AM
1

It's true though. I am a woman and I think most men would offer nothing to me other than an extra income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:02 AM
5

Americans are obese fucks. How do you expect them to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:02 AM
2

The truth hurts? I am a female and I can safely tell you that most men are a nuisance that just bother women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:58 AM
-2

Do we have a widespread problem of FDS members going on murder sprees the way incels do? No, I guessed not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:17 PM
0

Are you blind or something? The link I provided contains multiple links from TRP sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:47 PM
8

Cope. Non-white men tend to be obsessed with white women. Whites are in general perceived as superior choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:50 PM
2

The white male is perceived as being high status. Also, Hollywood only promotes actors that are either Anglo-Saxon or black. On the other hand, they completely ignore Hispanics, Asians and non-anglo whites. That being said, I still think that mediterranean men are hotter than anglo-saxons despite the media being obsessed with the latter. The appearance of anglos and nordics looks too feminine for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:42 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1mmuuo/is_theredpills_antidemocratic_streak_defensible/ Here are multiple comments by RP ECs and Vanguards saying that women shouldn't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:37 PM
-1

A lot of Red Pillers are alt-righters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:25 AM
0

As someone who has exclusively dated older men, I don't really agree. Dating older men is convenient, as men under 25 are useless. However, you often have nothing to talk about with older men and your interests are a lot different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:37 PM
-2

There has never been a time in history when women oppressed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:41 AM
2

So literally one of the best countries in the world??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:33 PM
5

Who gives a fuck about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:26 PM
2

If TRP is so politically agnostic then why are TRP elites constantly promoting their neoreactionary politics in their blogs and in TRP sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:52 PM
0

"Evolution" is not a rational thing with a plan. Whoever survives and breeds wins. Nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:50 PM
1

He is literally the creator of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:43 PM
2

Those are MRAs. Here we're discussing about Roissy's brand of the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:56 AM
-1

Another amateur completely unaware of the explicit white nationalism of Roissy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:37 AM
-1

They think that if they enforce the patriarchy and kick out all/most non-whites they can "save western civ".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:37 AM
3

I couldn't care less about what men think about my personality. I want someone to rate me honestly on my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:29 AM
0

Better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:15 AM
13

https://imgur.com/gallery/Qe0fZ1f https://imgur.com/gallery/Vwm0SPy Rate me in an honest way pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:14 AM
4

I don't know. There's definitely some overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:04 AM
8

https://imgur.com/gallery/Vwm0SPy This is me. Subhuman face but I'm not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:31 AM
0

65 kilos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:24 AM
0

Try me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:13 AM
1

Good. Nobody forces men to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:23 AM
1

I'm 25 years old and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:24 PM
1

White male privilege exits in dating because white male privilege exists in general. Ethnic women prefer white men because society views white men as superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:32 PM
2

These countries are shitholes because they exclude women from the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:01 PM
2

I am completely serious and I see no serious refutation to my arguments. Misandry is a joke and will never be a threat comparable to misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:48 PM
0

They defend Muslims for the same reason why they defend transgenders and gays and other marginalized groups. They believe these groups are often discriminated against, so of course as leftists they defend them. It's literally as simple as that, but it doesn't surprise me that TRP would try to find some absurd explanations for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:49 PM
2

Marriage is about providing some sort of security to the children. otherwise, there is literally no point. Why should a woman have kids with a man who can just walk away?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:28 PM
1

I don't think SJWs would deny this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:16 PM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:34 AM
1

TRPillers are explicitly neoeactionary and their elite members are actively advocating for disenfranchizing women and basically reverting back to pre-Enlightenment times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:08 PM
3

It depends on how you define masculine. If being a fuckboy/PUA is masculine then here in Greece at least such types are almost exclusively left-leaning. Literally all of the men I have met who are against marriage here are leftists. That is because all of our conservatives are uber Orthodox Christians and right-wing libertarians are pretty much nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:18 PM
3

/r/nicegirls exist. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:20 PM
3

Being a fuckboy is more normalized than it ever was. Stop with the victimhood mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:16 PM
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How are these guys "shamed"? Just because some woman got angry? Ridiculous notion. Being a fuckboy and never committing to anyone is actually more normalized than ever. These people are not shamed, at least as long as they're not intentionally manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:10 PM
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They only get married to have kids. I doubt they genuinely appreciate these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:43 PM
0

Most men offer nothing to women except money, that's true. I don't care if men agree with it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:38 PM
1

?? Nothing stops you from marrying a woman who makes as much money as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:05 PM
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This is retarded. Getting married means you get tax cuts and other legal protections. Guys who worry about alimony should just marry a woman that makes as much as they do. There, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 12:56 AM
3

I would probably be a lot like my father. I look a lot like him and we both have autism. He's a Chad in terms of looks but his autism ruined the family. If I was a man I would probably remain single. I don't think I can be happy with marriage because of my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 09:12 PM
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The whole idea is deeply flawed. Why should a woman in her 20s invest in a man in his 20s? For all she knows maybe the man will get lazy and grow up to be a total loser in his 30s. Just imagine wasting your best years as a woman with a man in his 20s only for him to become some useless piece of shit. It's not worth it at all. Not all men are at their best in their 30s-40s, some of them grow up to become losers. This is why it's not worth it for women to take such a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 02:28 PM
3

I have never seen anyone say that. Only MGTOWs believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 12:21 PM
1

Risk-taking behaviors are part of why men are more likely to be gamblers and drug addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:10 PM
-2

That can be a bad thing in its own way. Many girls are insecure and fuck disgusting low value males in order to prove their worth. There are many girls who don't understand the value of vagina. If they understood that, then the sex would probably decrease as women would save themselves for high value males/Chad only.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:58 PM
2

My ideal society: Technology and genetic engineering make gender completely irrelevant, everyone has equal rights. I believe that once artificial wombs and genetic engineering become a thing, women will be finally completely liberated from gender roles. The concept of gender will become completely irrelevant and people will do as they please as long as they don't cause harm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:28 PM
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Their fathers will probably encourage them to marry some simp that makes good money. That is not the optimal strategy for women as women will rarely be attracted to such types. I personally think that women should pursue financial independence and only sleep with men they're genuinely attracted to. Either settle for Chad or stay alone. (most financially independent women are better off single than with some low value male anyway)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:37 PM
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Not really. Online dating just shows women the truth about how high their SMV is. Women have more options than men and so they should own it and take advantage of it. The real crime is that many women don't take advantage of their SMV and instead settle for some low tier loser that makes them miserable. Males who are mad about this should be mad at themselves as it is men who give so much value to female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:28 PM
2

This is much better than providing no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:45 PM
0

"It's true because I said so". It doesn't work like this honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:23 PM
0

Where is the proof that they're diagnosed "wrongly" with ADHD? Any evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:13 PM
2

Evo psych is not "provable" as it can't be rigorously tested. This never stopped TRPillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:12 PM
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Yea, I'm sure that many people are going to hire a female electrician. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:48 AM
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Ignorance is bliss. I was watching an interview with a woman who defected from North Korea and she said that she believed that people in North Korea are happier than people in South Korea, because people in South Korea think all the time, while the people in North Korea don't have the time to overanalyze and overthink things. Similarly, I bet you could find people in hunters-gatherers societies who were happier than obese, depressed fucks from the US. Happiness has little to do with how easy you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:03 AM
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Males are more respected than women and taken more seriously than women everywhere except in fringe SJW circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:56 AM
2

Why do you think it's such a bad thing? I bet people in hunters-gatherers societies (before the civilized westerners came to fuck them up) were pretty happy with their lives. Plus we would have no man-made climate change or the nuclear weapons bullshit. Maybe we would have been better off if we never progressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:53 AM
2

There are studies from sociology and psychology. Do you have any better alternatives about why men are more likely to commit suicide in almost every country in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 01:01 AM
2

A part of toxic masculinity is being less likely to seek help for your problems, something that many men do according to multiple studies. You're free to ignore science if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:58 AM
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Men are killing themselves more often even in uber patriarchal countries. It's a worldwide phenomenon. Are you suggesting that Saudi Arabia is anti-male too? It's clear that toxic masculinity is to blame for male suicide. Males are less likely to ask for medical help than women. (something proven by multiple studies)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:49 AM
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Only fringe SJWs think like this. If you go to the real world, men are way more respected than women. And yes, male privilege is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:32 AM
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Women are getting 60% of more of University Degrees Yes, because men without a degree have better options than women without a degree. Men can join a trade. Jobs for working-class women are low pay shit. 6) Young women are out-earning their male counterparts in the workplace. Oh where oh where have that wage gap screeching gone? This is a myth. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-10/young-childless-women-earn-more-than-men-fact-check/5712770?nw=0 Despite doing better then men, women are still ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:30 AM
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Gender quotas exist to combat the actual discrimination against women that has been proven by multiple studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:22 AM
3

Rollo Tomassi has a psychology degree, but TRPillers worship him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:21 AM
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Do schools really punish "male behavior" or are males just more likely to misbehave? Also, men not pursuing higher education is not a pressing matter and men still have more options than women. Working-class men can find decent jobs even without a college degree, like starting a trade career. Women without a degree have shit options as working-class jobs for women are generally shit that don't pay well. Regarding Hollywood, its because women like to see fit shirtless men. Not even close. Superhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:20 AM
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Men just can't comprehend that women genuinely have each other's backs because they're used to constantly backstabbing each other. I really don't know where the meme that women are catty with each other comes from. Based on my personal experiences, males are way more antagonistic and catty with each other than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:37 PM
0

Says who? Our society is doing just fine, while societies that actively restrict hypergamy tend to be total shitholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:58 PM
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We're literally better off than we've ever been. Would you seriously rather live in another time period?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:02 PM
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Violent crime is less of a problem now than it was 30 years ago. You have no clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:44 PM
1

How exactly is it awful for society? Society is doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:18 PM
0

Hypergamy is female sexuality, so men hating it proves that they hate female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:17 PM
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Hypergamy is a great thing and beneficial to our species. Men hate it because they hate female sexuality in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:46 PM
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The average man has nothing to offer to a woman except money. Only high value males are worth something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:39 AM
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/04/the-presence-of-a-girlfriend-diminishes-young-mens-tendency-to-take-risks-56662 Apparently, having a girlfriend reduces men's risky behavior. Just in case you needed more proof that men need women to save them from themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:38 AM
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So men don't form intimate relationships with other men thanks to toxic masculinity and this leads them to treat women like emotional tampons. So my point still stands that men benefit from female companionship more than women benefit from male companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:43 PM
1

Men benefit from female companionship more than women benefit from male companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:42 PM
1

The difference between married men and single men is bigger than the difference between married women and single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:20 PM
-1

Well, when men have nothing else to offer, what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:19 PM
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Men benefit from female companionship more than women benefit from male companionship and there are many studies that suggest this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:03 PM
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You can say what you like but I never see any serious refutation of the things I say. Even those who attempt to refute my point are relying on pure speculation at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:02 PM
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Men were always only good for provision. This is why now that more women are financially independent they're starting to realize that most men are unworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:57 PM
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Yes. Here is some evidence that men need women on a psychological level, while women don't need men. Straight men have the most orgasms, surpassing even the gays, straight women have the FEWEST orgasms. <--- men can't satisfy women in bed. https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/02/27/straight-women-are-given-fewest-orgasms-study-finds/#8142dab722d6 2) Married men are healthier and happier than single men. Married women receive significantly fewer benefits in marriage https://www.jstor.org…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:39 PM
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Only younger women gain male attention. But even older women are overall better off than older single men. Lets face it, men love women more than women love men. And that's for perfectly justified reasons as most men are worthless to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:33 PM
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Money is literally the only thing that most men have to offer to women. The.Only.Thing. Women literally offer everything else as proven by multiple studies that show that men are overall more satisfied with their marriages than women. Why wouldn't women leave men who lose their jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:29 PM
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I'm just saying it as it is. Men benefit from female companionship more than women do from male companionship. (at least on a psychological and emotional level)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:26 PM
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Just more proof that marriage is an overall better deal for men than for women and that men make shit partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:18 PM
1

Their obsession with "individualism" is definitely americancentric. In European and Eastern countries, you'd be a laughing stock if you obsessed over individualism the way Americans do. However, I think the dating scene is similar in most western/westernized countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:22 PM
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Because "misandry" is not a real thing. There has never been a society where women oppressed men for their gender, the way men oppress women in patriarchies. Even in "matriarchal" societies, like the Mosuo, men are not controlled by women. They are largely left to fuck off and do as they please, mate with who they like etc. In patriarchies, on the other hand, women are literally property. No matter how much women complain about men, they will never have control over men , the way men can have co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:18 PM
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It's what men did throughout history though. And even today we see many men longing for that past. Heck, TRP has many neoreactionaries who want to disenfranchize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:30 AM
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It's actually worse than that. Male "love" is not even about viewing women as people. Male "love" is about possessing women as objects. Men don't really love women, more like they fall in love with an ideal inside their heads. This is why studies show that men are more likely to fall in love at first sight. They fall in love at first sight because they don't care about a woman's character AT ALL. In fact, the less of a character she has, the better. Males just like the idea of owning a woman. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:14 AM
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Toxic masculinity is what causes male suicide and not being taken seriously when you're raped as a man. There are many studies that find links between masculinity and being less likely to ask for medical help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:16 AM
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Harder to make friends than men ??? Not true. Judged on looks Afraid of being alone (especially at night) Pregnancies and periods All true. And you forgot that women face discrimination when it comes to hiring. Also, female politicians face a lot of discrimination because of their gender. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0927537119300429 https://gap.hks.harvard.edu/price-power-power-seeking-and-backlash-against-female-politicians Men have it harder in some ways, but it's usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:14 AM
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Because many men have nothing to offer to financially independent women, except for one extra income. Sorry, but this is the truth. Women historically viewed men as a nuisance and a burden and only tolerated them because they were financially dependent and needed protection from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:19 AM
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Men need women more than women need men. (at least on a psychological and emotional level) You can see it everywhere. Throughout history, it was MEN who were obsessed with women in various ways. Even the patriarchy was just an attempt to control women and female sexuality. Women on the other hand don't care at all about most men and rightly so, as most men have nothing to offer to women. I think our ancestors understood that, that's why they deliberately set up the patriarchy in order to force w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:04 AM
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Of course, but I view it as a blessing. Imagine being as thirsty for the average man as men are for the average woman. Lol, no thanks. Women who don't need to rely financially on a man are better off single than with the average low value male. I would only recommend a woman to settle with a man like that if she wants children really badly. Otherwise, such men are more of a burden than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:26 PM
2

You know that Roissy/Heartiste Chataeu was a quasi-fascist blog, right? And it's the foundation of TRP. TRP theory is explicitly linked to neoreactionaryism. If you don't like it, then tell your ECs to stop promoting fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:34 PM
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I just said that there are many Red Pillers who are fascists and neoreactionaries, and there is proof of that. Many of your Endorsed Contributors are openly anti-democratic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:22 PM
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There are many Red Pillers who are ultra-tradcons or even fascists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:08 PM
1

Might as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:43 PM
1

Reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:38 PM
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I would never get married unless it's a rich Chad. Most men have nothing of value to offer me and I'm not crazy about having kids anyway. It's either a top tier male or nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:07 PM
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"Something makes sense intuitively, therefore it is true" <-- This is the most common Red Pill fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:07 PM
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In my experience, leftist men are more likely to follow TRP ideal lifestyle of never wanting to get married. On the other hand, conservatives tend to have a very clingy and needy mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:32 PM
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I lost all respect for Rollo after I saw the total nonsense he posts on twitter. When I say "beta", I mean that they act needy and clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:26 AM
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One of the biggest lies is that conservative men are more masculine and "Red Pill" in relationships. I have dated both conservatives and leftists and in my experience it is the OPPOSITE. Leftist men are the types who never want to commit and get married and they use feminism as an excuse for their promiscuity and laziness. Conservative men on the other hand, tend to be needy, clingy, beta and annoying af. I can't decide who's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:06 AM
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Look at ancient Athens, women were property and treated worse than in modern day Iran, yet the men still hated women and casually said hateful shit about women. This proves that men will always hate women, period. Women can be completely enslaved and men will still not be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:25 PM
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Is there any way that women can behave to make men NOT hate them as a whole? I don't see it. Men seem to hate every single thing that women do. You can be a completely submissive and obedient woman who acts like the man's servant and you'll still receive 0 appreciation and respect. Lets face it, men just hate women. The only reason they tolerate women at all is instincts. Heck, CisWhiteMaelstrom has admitted exactly what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:20 PM
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It's a flawed theory, but it's definitely onto something. Men hate and despise women but are simultaneously attracted to them because of a) biological instincts, b) a need to prove their masculinity. Men don't view women as people, they view them as accessories and possessions. In fact, if men could convince themselves that sex dolls are real women, they would choose the sex dolls any day!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:16 PM
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Has Rollo Tomassi finally gone full Alex Jones? In this tweet he seems to be implying that the COVID19 crisis was just part of the plan to *feminize* men. ​ https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1255200303072198656
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:42 PM
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Most women are better off being single than with a low value male. Women who are financially independent don't have anything to gain by mating with a low value male, plain and simple. This is why men in the old days used financial coercion in order to force women to marry low value men. However, in this day and age many women make their own money and they're starting to realize that spinsterhood is superior to being some low tier male's mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:46 PM
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Yes. I for one frankly admit that I think most males are unworthy of my attention and love. I'd rather be single than with a low value male. However, unlike TRPillers and incels, I think that women having high standards is a good thing. There are multiple studies that suggest that men gain more from relationships than women do, so if anything, I think women's standards should be even higher than they currently are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:38 PM
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They are more unhappy because they have higher expectations of how their lives "should" be. They feel that they need to have it all. Back in the day women learned to live with the little they had. It's probably the same reason why whites in the US have higher suicide rates than blacks, despite being financially and socially better off. Whites have higher expectations so they get disappointed when things don't go as they'd wish. Blacks learn to be more satisfied with what they have. In other word…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:39 PM
1

??? Asians have high suicide rates and they're well off. If anything it proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:01 PM
1

Asians in the US are pretty well off financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:55 PM
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This might actually be possible. Black people in the US have lower suicide rates than white people, even though black people are generally worse off financially and socially. http://www.sprc.org/scope/racial-ethnic-disparities
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:33 PM
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The happiness paradox is garbage and I'll tell you why. People from poorer countries tend to feel happier than people from richer countries. This is because people from richer countries are more neurotic and have higher expectations. People from poorer countries learn to be happy with what they have. This is why you see people in Greece for example having lower suicide rates than people in Sweden. I suspect that the gender paradox is influenced by this phenomenon, women in feminist countries hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:05 PM
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Well, it might be an article from the guardian, but it does link to more studies than the entire RP sidebar does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:35 PM
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Not at all. Studies show that men and women are happier in feminist countries and generally unhappy in patriarchal countries. This shows that feminism is good for everyone and the patriarchy is good for no one. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/08/gender-equal-international-womens-day-men ^ In this article there are links to multiple studies that show that men in feminist countries are more satisfied and healthier than men in patriarchal countries. Neoreactionary males who fetis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:27 AM
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They won't be violent. Many sexless men are obese NEETs who can't be bothered to go outside their house, let alone become violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:14 AM
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Back in the day, being a "homemaker" was a different thing than it is now. Back then they didn't have washing machines and dishwashers available, women who stayed at home worked pretty hard. Many of them also lived in farms which usually meant that they also had to help around with the animals etc. They didn't just sit around all day, (except for the ladies of the nobility I guess) Nowadays, life is different. Most people don't live in farms. Most people have dishwashers and washing machines at …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:04 AM
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Just lmao if you think patriarchal countries, like Iran or whatever stand a chance against the US and Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:56 AM
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Among women, its rise of single motherhood birthing future school shooters and gangbangers, rising "involuntary" single women (AKA women who are still single despite their efforts). Crime is actually declining. You have no clue what you're talking about. "Gangbangers" are a much smaller problem than they were in the 70s-80s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_drop
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:39 AM
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There will be no collapse, especially due to the sexlessness epidemic. What's going to happen is that automation will take over in many professions and the economy will change so that we can adapt to the new circumstances. Sexless men will start banging sex dolls or whatever, society won't be needing them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:36 AM
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What makes you think that men are happier in patriarchal countries? The patriarchy generally means more responsibility with little reward for the average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:17 AM
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https://phys.org/news/2019-03-women-percent-hiring-men.html Women are on average 30 percent less likely to be called for a job interview than men with the same characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:19 PM
5

As opposed to the brave males who commit massacres against peaceful Muslims in New Zealand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:18 PM
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Looking how well the female leader of New Zealand has handled the coronavirus, I wonder if TRPillers will ever come to admit that they're in the wrong side of history. Just give up and embrace gender equality. Studies show that men and women are happier and healthier in feminist countries than in patriarchal countries. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/08/gender-equal-international-womens-day-men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 08:49 PM
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Men control most of the economic resources. Is it really such a surprise that desperate women are looking for a provider? Give women equal access to high paying jobs and this will not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:53 PM
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My argument is that TRP promotes this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:35 PM
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Discrimination and violence against women exist in the real world and TRP narrative is promoting discrimination. This is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:15 AM
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I meant that white men are perceived as high status, so many ethnic women go for white men instead of dating inside their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:17 AM
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Why do you think? White men are perceived as high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:04 AM
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Not sure about Americans, but here in Europe most working-class women do work even if they marry young.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:31 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/daua9t/women_are_not_less_empathetic_and_more/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:51 PM
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Do you have anything to say about the studies that show that women are nicer and more generous?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:47 PM
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You can't just link to a blog and say "yep, it's all debunked now". There are multiple studies that show that racial and gender discrimination do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:46 PM
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Because it's usually not an optimal strategy. First of all, unless the man is upper middle-class, most families nowadays will struggle to live comfortably on only one income. Second of all, if you're economically dependent on someone, it's sometimes utter shit. Of course, not all relationships like that are the same, but there are some cases that are really sad. Let me give you an example. My father controlled the finances in the family even though the wealth belonged to my mother. (from inherit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:00 PM
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Oh what about front line service, male disposability in high risk jobs, and the expectations of male performatism encouraged by female preferences. All of those are upholded and promoted by men themselves. Do you think it's women who send men to war? No, it's usually the male leaders who do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:38 PM
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Actually, people like GLO have said many times that you ARE supposed to take the opinions of Vanguards and ECs very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:54 PM
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These studies were about comparing people with similar qualifications. Not hiring a woman equally qualified for a job just because she's a woman is sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:40 PM
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The argument is that TRPillers are explicitly promoting the narrative that men are "better/superior humans". This can lead to real life discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:43 PM
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Women work fewer hours because they spend more time on childcare than men do. If parenting was shared more equally, then women would work more hours. And not hiring women because they MIGHT have kids in the future is still a form of discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:30 PM
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dr_warlock is literally responding to someone who tries to argue that women are "not inferior but different". He's responding by arguing that women are inferior. If women are inferior, then it makes sense that men are superior. How is this not about celebrating men? And CisWhiteMaelstrom is literally saying that there are no rational reasons to love women while there are rational reasons to love men. I must assume that you didn't read the quotes carefully, because they definitely celebrate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:27 PM
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hat implication does it give when women fight for quotas in boards of directors, These quotas exist to combat the ACTUAL discrimination against women. https://phys.org/news/2019-03-women-percent-hiring-men.html TRP doesn't care about actual rape and sexual assault because these concepts have been diluted to the point of obscurity. Rape and sexual assault is any sexual interaction that women didn't enjoy, even if they made the decision to engage in it. Maybe in your SJW circle in San Francisco. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:02 PM
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Why don't you try to debunk the actual studies that show that discrimination against women does exist then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:54 PM
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Do you really think that women were taken seriously before feminism? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:51 PM
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If you believe that women are inferior, it makes sense that you also believe that men are superior, something that shows immense pro-male bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:50 PM
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Just because we more or less view women as low value males, It means that you view men are the superior humans, which is literally the Men Are Wonderful Effect on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:42 PM
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You realize that many Red Pillers are literally using TRP narrative to promote their political agenda right? Look at this comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5ckh1e/biggest_failed_shit_test_in_history_womens/d9x5tdo/ I don't understand how people in this sub both believe that women are children, they act out of emotions, women's hypergamic instincts destabilise society, they are solipsistic, they politicise the personal, men are leaders and think women voting are completely fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:36 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/1glxy9/i_scienced_so_hard_that_the_trp_mods_wet_their/ Here's what happens when someone challenges TRP "science".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:29 PM
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I bet I can find evidence of discrimination against women in whatever country you live in. https://phys.org/news/2019-03-women-percent-hiring-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:26 PM
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There is discrimination against women in the West. https://phys.org/news/2019-03-women-percent-hiring-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:25 PM
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Maybe. You presented their arguments but I am not seeing anything that disproves them. If you are not refuting their arguments then how do you expect people to ignore them? How can you even disprove an assertion made without evidence? Like, he said women are mentally and emotionally inferior and cited some blog post. On a large scale, men (as a population, not as individuals because exceptions exist) do what they need to do to become attractive to women. So women (again, as a population, not as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:20 PM
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Yea, TRPillers act as if discrimination against women is some nonexistent thing and not the norm in many countries around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:18 PM
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The WOWE is about broad cultural and legal norms that privilege women Male privilege: 1) Having a higher chance to get hired at the most well-respected and well-paid jobs. (and yes there are studies that show gender discrimination in hiring) https://phys.org/news/2019-03-women-percent-hiring-men.html Women are on average 30 percent less likely to be called for a job interview than men with the same characteristics 2) Being taken more seriously and being more respected than women by everyone exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:12 PM
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I disagree. If you look at history, men did everything in their power to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:31 PM
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Radical feminists like in GC are incredibly fringe. The view I described is way more widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:29 PM
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Notice how the neoreactionary crowd wants to disenfranchize women because they're supposedly "out of control". Notice how nobody wants to control men, even though it is MEN who are by far the degenerate gender, with the highest rates of alcoholism, gambling and drug abuse. Of course, the neoreactionaries are a fringe group, but even in the mainstream, people are more likely to focus on female misbehavior than on male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:17 PM
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People are so biased against women , it's ridiculous. I see comments all the time saying that women are LESS polite and less nice than men. (even though actual studies literally say the opposite) These comments don't even come from Red Pillers, I have even seen regular people say such things. Also, when women do something "degenerate", it means they're totally out of control. When men are degenerate nobody cares. Guess what, it is MEN who are more likely to be alcoholics and drug addicts. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:39 PM
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Women are nicer, more generous and more polite. Actual studies>>>your personal anecdotes. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263134386_How_and_why_are_women_more_polite_Some_evidence_from_a_Mayan_community https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/women-are-more-compassionate-polite-than-men-on-facebook-says-study/articleshow/52448952.cms?from=mdr https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/49953/1/49953-01.pdf https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-07459-008 Whether or not women are more polite…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:48 PM
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It's possible. I don't see what I can do about it after so many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:57 PM
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No, I lived with my grandparents back then and I didn't want to make them worry about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:49 PM
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I don't know why it is so hard for men to believe that sexual harassment is rampant. Things like what Ford described happen literally all the time and were probably even more common 30 years ago. There is no sexually active woman who hasn't been harassed or even assaulted at least once! Let me give you an example from personal experience. When I was like 16 years old, I went to this guy's house but I didn't want to have sex. He started pressuring me and literally tried to remove my skirt BY FORC…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:37 PM
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There are literally many studies that show that women are more polite than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:19 PM
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They also often reject women for being fat or for being too old, but those don't count as shallow preferences apparently. These men are just hypocritical and try to shame women into sleeping with low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:16 AM
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It's just underdiagnosed. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and OCD, but nobody diagnosed me with autism until recently even though I have all the symptoms. Also, high functioning autistic women are just better at hiding it. Women learn to copy other people's behaviors in order to fit in from an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:03 PM
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Women were allowed to have more rights mainly for economic reasons. Because of capitalism it was more convenient to have more female workers and consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:30 PM
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How can you dispute that men have a deep desire to control women when all recorded history shows us that men did everything in their power to control women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:15 PM
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I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:38 PM
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Lol at believing that sapiophilia is a real thing and not kids who try to be cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:32 PM
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I am not convinced that they want a quiet woman because they actually like her for her personality. They want a quiet woman because they see it as more convenient. It comes from a desire to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:20 PM
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They don't care about a woman's personality, that's what I mean when I say that they don't love women for who they are. Their ideal woman is someone who is quiet at all times and only sucks their dick. Like, if they could convince themselves that a robot was a real woman, they would prefer it over a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:58 PM
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While some women might be arrogant, it is actually men who usually have an inflated opinion of themselves. Men are actually MORE likely to be narcissists. https://observer.com/2018/03/studies-show-men-are-more-narcissistic-heres-why/ Women have a lower self-esteem than men. https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2016/01/self-esteem-gender Men overestimate their own attractiveness while women judge their own looks more harshly. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:20 PM
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Keep in mind that what I'm saying is actually what TRP is saying. I simply take it to its logical conclusion. So in order to change my mind, you will have to challenge TRP theory promoted by places like Heartiste that explicitly said that men only care about looks and youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:11 PM
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Men calculating what makes a good LTR has nothing to do with what men fall in love with. And even when it comes to women who are LTR materials, they are simply looking for someone who is obedient and doesn't challenge them. Doesn't sound like they're appreciate women for their personality, more like they're being practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:07 PM
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I am open to change my mind if I see actual arguements and proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:02 PM
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You're talking about men calculating rationally what woman is good for a LTR. I am talking about how women love, what they fall in love with. There's a difference. Men don't love women for their personalities, period. They fall in love with an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:01 PM
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I should have phrased it differently. I should have said "you might really believe what you're saying, but I think men think differently when it comes to their subconscious desires"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:03 AM
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Except that TRPillers are right that men don't love women for their personalities. Just look at history. The ideal for men was to marry a child or a woman in her early teens in order to GROOM her into becoming an obedient wife. This is actually what men did historically. They didn't care about a woman's personality, they cared about grooming her into becoming what they wanted. I was reading the case of the kidnapper Priklopil who kidnapped a 10 years old in order to literally groom her into fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:01 AM
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I am simply offering a historical example to show how men may view women. It is entirely in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:53 AM
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Betas fall in love with an ideal, they don't really care about women. Why do you think studies show that men are more likely to fall in love at first sight? Like I said, they don't care about who the woman is, they just fall in love with an ideal in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:47 AM
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You know what. I don't believe you. Throughout history it seems like men treated women more like property. Sure, they protected women from other men, but mostly because their sense of male honor was at stake than because they genuinely cared. I mean, look at the story of Verginia in ancient Rome. She was abducted and turned into a slave and what did her father did? He killed her in order to "reclaim his honor". It seems that this is all men care about, how to seem honorable to other men. An assa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:42 AM
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That's what you think because this is what society tells you to think. It doesn't reflect your true desires. Men see women as nothing but objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:32 AM
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Not at all. Even TRPillers admit that men don't care about a woman's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:28 AM
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Then why should women have sex if they're not as sexually satisfied? Tell me one reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:36 AM
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Straight women are the LEAST likely to have an orgasm. Straight men are the MOST likely to have an orgasm, surpassing even the gays. https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/02/27/straight-women-are-given-fewest-orgasms-study-finds/#2632bb29722d https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0939-z Just think about the implications. Lesbians are more likely to have an orgasm than straight women. Straight men are more likely to have an orgasm than gay men. This just adds to my theory t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:10 PM
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Men are actually more likely to cheat than women. It looks like men don't like getting a taste of their own medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:27 AM
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Men who take paternity tests are those more likely to suspect that the child is not theirs, so the data is skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:32 AM
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You don't have to be some Hannibal Lecter type to arouse a woman. There are plenty of men who are masculine and competent and they're good for relationships while also being able to arouse their female partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:19 PM
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No, we're just saying that being pressured into sex is more common than people think. Nobody is saying that no women ever enjoys sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:17 PM
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Nice strawman there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:14 PM
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Low value males are obsessed with controlling women, so it's likely they will convert to fundamentalist Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:13 PM
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Men don't understand things like sexual harassment and sexual assault from a female perspective, so they can't empathize, plain and simple. In the minds of many men, getting harassed by sexually aggressive women would be some kind of privilege. They don't get how it feels threatening to women. (at least most of them don't)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 03:51 PM
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Well, yes. And guess who ruined her life. The guy who kidapped her
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:58 PM
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I didn't say they are all exactly like that, but I do think it shows their deepest desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:00 PM
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That moment when you realize that kidnapper Wolfgang Priklopil was an incel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Kampusch https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300561/Natascha-Kampuschs-kidnapper-Wolfgang-Priklopil-wanted-untouched-virgin.html Police records also reveal how Priklopil‘s insecurity about his 'large nose' and his inability to connect with women led him to build the secret dungeon where he believed he could make his victim love him over time. He kidnapped a 10 years old in or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:11 PM
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This is as ridiculous as saying that spinsters are oppressed because they can't find a man to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:46 AM
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Most women don't really think about it and are hardly aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:45 AM
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So women's preferences shouldn't define the game? And what do you propose then? Rape and suppression of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:41 AM
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These comparisons are silly. You're comparing men not being able to get laid with marital rape and oppression. Men are not oppressed just because they can't get laid on demand, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:39 AM
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Fatherhood is a social construct and the patriarchy was created specifically to make fathers stay. This kind of monogamy is not the natural male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:28 PM
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Fatherhood doesn't exist in this society, plain and simple. Men just impregnate women and then leave. This is actually closer to the true male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:16 PM
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Not at all. Just look at societies like the Mosuo where women have considerable power. Men are largely left to fuck off and do as they please and they're not oppressed. (at least not oppressed as much as women in patriarchal societies are)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:10 PM
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You’re one of the more aggressive “N doesn’t matter” type Am I? Any examples of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:09 PM
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Men vastly overestimate their physical attractiveness. There are even studies about this. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think?amp= https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23311908.2014.996316 Overall, men rated themselves higher in self-perceived attractiveness (M = 3.35) than did women (M = 2.56; t(157) = 3.48, p = .0007). It is notable that whereas only 2 males gave themselves the lowest self-perceived attractiveness rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:33 PM
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The main people I see policing people's preferences are Red Pillers and incels who want to bring back the patriarchy in order to coerce women into marrying low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:50 PM
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Or maybe the world becoming more feminized will mean a kinder, less war-mongering world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:07 PM
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If we had feminine modern work culture during the industrial revolution, I doubt we'd be the world's superpower. We'd be some middle of the pack nation like France. So there would have been no colonialism and probably no ww1 and ww2? Doesn't sound too bad to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:58 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:51 PM
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Implying that the world becoming more liberal is a bad thing....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:41 PM
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Women are half of the population and roughly half of the workforce so they should have a say in how society is ran. But if you want a practical reason: men tend to vote in irrational ways. More men vote for science-denying, climate change-denying, war-mongering, elitist af traditionalist parties. Clearly you need women to balance out the irrational male vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:05 PM
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I don't care about men wanting to improve themselves or whatever. What bothers me about TRP is that they're actively advocating for female disenfranchisement and subjugation. Sorry, but I won't just stand and do nothing when someone wants to disenfranchise and subjugate me!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:35 PM
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Life is not fair. I wish I was born in a different family. I wish I was born in a different country. But I wasn't. I have accepted it and made the best of it. Incels should accept it and do the same. I am not saying they should just give up and never try to attract women, but they they should certainly abandon their fantasies of controlling women and bringing back the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:20 PM
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Yes, they should leave women alone if they really can't attract them. They can spend their lives playing video games or whatever, nobody cares. Automation and immigration will solve the problem of them being unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:06 PM
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It recognizes the black pill truth that women that women are only really attracted to high value males, but it is pro-female and anti-incel. It is against the idea that women should be pressured to have sex with incels and low value males for ANY reason. Instead it advocates that women should take full control of their sexuality and only have sex with high value males or choose a life of independence and spinsterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:48 PM
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Except that you will never see a feminist seriously advocating for men not being allowed to vote. The most radical feminists want seperatism at best. Only men are obsessed with controlling women. And TRP is neoreactionary at its core. You're just ignorant about the history of TRP and about the political beliefs of people like Roissy/Heartiste Chataeu.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:34 PM
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No, I want everyone to be free from gender roles, so that they can do what they please with their lives without arbitrary restrictions. TRPillers want to disenfranchize women, kick them out of the workforce en masse, exclude them from politics and basically enslave them to their husbands and fathers. How can you even compare the two?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:22 PM
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It is a core RP belief. GLO has said the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:14 PM
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My n-count is 7 and it has affected my relationship in the sense that it made me less naive and less of a fool. No, I have never been dumped over my n-count and most men don't even ask about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:44 PM
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I think it's just influenced by what I'm saying. A 24 yo woman is more likely to choose a 27 yo man than a 24 yo man, simply because the older man will make a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:15 PM
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In my opinion as someone who dated exclusively older men, young men make poor partners because they usually don't work, don't want a serious relationship, are very immature compared to women etc. 0 reason for women to date men under 25. Of course there are some exceptions, but they're rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:12 PM
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I will just post this here, because I'm sure the mods wouldn't allow a thread like this. It is a crime that PPD does not allow discussions about all core RP beliefs. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1bav9c/mod_almost_3000_users_and_a_message_from_the/c959tyk/ Some of the deeper beliefs can appear misogynistic to the uninitiated. Like the view that women shouldn't vote. Or the view that women don't contribute to society. Or the view that women are just over grown teenagers. The top mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:01 PM
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Imagine thinking that TRP is mocked because men want to self-improve and not for the blatant woman bashing and promotion of far-right politics. I will just quote GayLubeOil. https://www.reddit.com/r/theredpillright/comments/5s7736/what_is_the_red_pill_right/ Women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Woman's sufferage single handedly ruined pretty much everything from the 1920's onward. And the top mod of TRP, redpillschool https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1bav9c/mod_almost_3000_users_and_a_…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 11:29 AM
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Nobody should tell anybody who they should sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 11:19 AM
2

Nope, I don't care. It is the manospherians who try to shame women for not sleeping with incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:43 AM
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Where do you see that women are so turned off by it? In your head maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:21 AM
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I am only shaming men for their misogyny. I don't care about who they sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:20 AM
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Yea, because someone with as much power as Ailes cannot blacklist you and make sure you can't find a good job in journalism ever...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:35 AM
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Remember when Ailes told that girl to lift up her skirt? That's when you fuck off if you have any shred of dignity, not flash your panties because you want something. You don't understand how you are in genuine danger to lose your job and be blacklisted if you do that? Are you delusional or just a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:20 AM
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What can I tell you. You saw the constant harassment that women face and how they're treated as sex objects and your only reaction is "yep, ailes was in the right". People like you prove that men are beyond all hope and that women should push for gender seperatism. .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:05 AM
3

So you think Ailes did nothing wrong? Would you be happy if your boss threatened to fire you over not sleeping with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:37 AM
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Yes, I genuinely think that men want to control women. Especially the neoreactionary men that you see around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:49 AM
3

I will find some other hobbies, probably play more LoL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:34 AM
3

Yea, I have been saying it for a while that transhumanism and genetic engineering will probably end the concept of gender for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:28 AM
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Care to explain yourself? How is Europe worse off than some patriarchal "paradise" like Iran and Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:27 AM
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They have a problem with low birth rates, but it's still one of the richest countries in the world. Also, their demographic problem can be solved with automation and immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:25 AM
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Med countries are more traditional than Nordic countries, but I feel that it is the Slavic countries that are the most traditional in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:18 AM
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Yea, but I'm not sure we should return to colonialism, sounds pretty cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:12 AM
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How are Europe and Japan "dying"? They're literally among the greatest superpowers in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:02 AM
4

Well, where is the proof then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:46 PM
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Refute what? He has 0 evidence for what he's saying. Western society is not collapsing, it's doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:35 PM
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This is just pure speculation based on no real evidence. You present is as fact that society is collapsing yet you have no proof of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:34 PM
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Yes. I have been saying this for ages. Men around here unironically think that living in Sweden and Iceland is worse than living in Iran and Saudi Arabia. They'd rather live in some authoritarian autocracy as long as they get a chance to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:31 PM
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Imagine men being upset that they can't beat the shit out of women just because they can't get laid. How entitled can men be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:38 PM
3

Sure, but they don't go far enough imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:30 PM
1

Black Pill Feminism agrees with the Black Pill theory, but it is for women. It promotes the knowledge that women are the most valuable gender since men need women more than women need men. Women should embrace this and act according to their best interests. It advocates that women should abandon the majority of low value men and choose either happiness in independence/spinsterhood or high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:24 PM
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I'm grateful that I am a woman. It is women who form social networks and support each other. It is women who hate true, intimate friendships. If you wanna know why it is mainly men that end up homeless, alcoholic etc. it is because they don't have social networks like women do. Men lead lonely lives, but you shouldn't feel sorry for them because it is their own fault. Whenever feminism tries to challenge this toxic masculinity, they react negatively. Well, let them suffer I say. I'm grateful tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 02:22 PM
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At least some of them would still be losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:11 AM
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Older men are basically beta bux unless they're extremely good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:06 AM
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Many incels would be WORSE OFF in traditionalist societies. You people really think that NEETs and nerds are successful in traditionalist societies? Lol. Such types would be bullied into oblivion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:04 AM
2

Autism works in weird ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:52 AM
1

I think all men should watch the movie Bombshell. Then maybe they'll finally get it, although I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:35 PM
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Believe it or not, I am the complete opposite of assertive in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:13 PM
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I was like this. I used to sleep with men when I didn't want to in order to "appear cool" and I did all sort of shit to suck up to men. I used to cook for my ex-boyfriends, pretend to be interested in their retarded video games etc. It didn't get me anywhere. All of my boyfriends either left or they were such pigs that I had to leave them eventually. Meanwhile, I have a friend who is a total bitch and she got married to some steroid user that it not bad-looking at all. The truth is that a woman'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:15 PM
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Question for Red Pillers: Should a woman EVER speak up about sexual harassment? Like, if some man at work grabs your butt without consent and tells you to have sex with him, are you allowed to report him? I'm asking because some Red Pillers are acting like : a) sexual harassment NEVER happens, b) even if sexual harassment does happen women shouldn't speak up about it because they harm the career of the poor male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:53 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:27 PM
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Many women are like this. Women often have sex just to please their partner, it's that simple. I personally can relate to what she's saying, I hate sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:26 PM
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It's not immoral, but it sure as hell is pathetic. It shows how desperate males are for some sort of emotional connection. It also confirms what I have been saying, that men need women more than women need men. You'd never see women acting this way for a man, thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:19 PM
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Males don't support each other the way women do, it's as simple as that. UMC males don't give a damn if working-class males can't find a wife or whatever. Why would they care? Most of the problems TRPillers whine about like sexlessness are problems that exist mainly in the lower classes. Why would our male elites give a shit about it? As far as they are concerned, low class males should die off and be replaced by automation/robots. Women on the other hand are more likely to have women's interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:03 AM
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I just posted a quote by someone who admits that they would NEVER vote for ANY female politician. Some people are just sexist and would never hire a female electrician. It's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:15 AM
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Probably. Prostitution is legal here so it's possible. My point was that gender relations didn't change that much. No matter what men here hope for, women are not going back to the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:50 AM
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No. My country faced a huge economic crisis some years ago and nothing of the sort happened. There wasn't a baby boom, in fact birth rates are very low here. There wasn't a marriage boom, marriage rates are low. Women didn't become more chaste, it's the same as it always was. I think the only difference was that women prioritized men with a good job a little more, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:35 AM
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It's men who want to feel that they have an emotional connection with a woman. If they didn't want that connection, they would just watch porn for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:26 AM
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Who would hire a female electrician?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:28 AM
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Why don't you read the actual studies inside the links>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:15 AM
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Most working-class men don't make enough money to support a family by themselves and middle-class men rarely marry outside of their own class if you look at statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:04 AM
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Many young people are facing job instability so it should not be a surprise that some women seek to make money that way. Keep in mind that women do not have the same options as men. Women cannot work as technicians or electricians. Nobody is going to trust a female electrician. There is plenty of evidence of discrimination against women in multiple jobs. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/06/07/new-study-finds-discrimination-against-women-and-racial-minorities-hiring-sciences http://ftp.iz…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:53 PM
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Women are actively discriminated against in high paying jobs and there are many studies about that. Heck, your leader, Rollo Tomassi admitted that he would never vote for ANY female politician. If people like this exist how do you expect women to dominate the top positions in society by themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:02 PM
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They're upset that women are not economically reliant on men anymore. Back in the day, they intentionally excluded women from all the good jobs in order to coerce them into marrying low value males. Now that women have the option to be financially independent, they have no reason to settle for some low value loser and men don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:38 PM
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Did I ever say that women are entitled to free drinks? It is men that offer this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:30 PM
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Well, obviously. It's not like anyone is forcing you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:25 PM
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Yes and that reason is brainwashing by society. Men need women more than women need men, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:10 PM
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Marriage is a better deal for men than for women anyway. Once people realize the obvious truth, you will see more and more women being single by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:03 PM
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Men are not entitled to anything. If they don't like it, they can go MGTOW. Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:57 PM
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Nobody is forcing you to date a sex worker or to pay money for a sex worker, so what is your problem exactly? That you can't tell others what to do? That you can't control other people's actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:53 PM
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In case you needed more evidence about how TRP encourages real life gender discrimination, here's Rollo Tomassi saying that he would never vote for a female politician. https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1251319310699487233 Still think it's just about dating strategy when hundreds of impressionable young men look up to these clowns and start imitating their views?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:49 PM
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The anger phase is a huge LIE. In fact, TRP veterans have even more extreme views about women. The more you get into TRP the more of an extremist you become. It is TRP veterans who believe stuff like that women shouldn't vote, that they should be excluded from the workforce and that women "destroy western civilization".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:39 PM
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Yea, there are actual studies that show that men don't rely on each other as much as women do pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:31 PM
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Studies show the opposite of what you're saying. Men are more likely to rely on women for emotional support than on men. This is why single men tend to have such bad outcomes in life. (high homelessness rates, alcoholism, mental illness etc.) I for one would be very pleased if men stopped using women as emotional tampons and started supporting each other more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:29 PM
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You have to realize that this is one of the reasons why men need women more than women need men. Women form social networks and support each other. Women are intimate with each other. Men are not intimate with each other because of masculinity. This means that men only seek intimacy through women. Why do you think men pay so much money to cam girls, while you never see women doing the same? It's because they imagine that they have a "connection" with the cam girl. Men are desperate for an emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:44 AM
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There are literally millions of young attractive women who want to marry an umc man. Why would such a man pick someone with 0 political/social connections? What makes you think such a woman would move in umc circles at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:43 AM
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Stats say that most people marry inside their class.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:17 AM
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Upper class men are way too high value to go for a random working-class girl, even if she's good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:08 AM
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I am asking red pillers here. They believe hypergamy is innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:02 AM
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In reality, most people marry inside their own class. (based on stats) So it's going to be hard for a girl like that to marry an upper class man, although not impossible I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:59 AM
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In theory, they could, but it sounds much more difficult to create a robot that satisfies hypergamy than a robot that sacrifices men. Men only want a woman that looks good and never says no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:29 AM
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It might be more practical to get rid of women completely. After all, according to TRP, they destroy the civilizations that men build!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:30 PM
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It might be more practical to get rid of women completely. After all, they're kind of a burden if they're not needed for reproduction and according to TRP , they destroy western civilization!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:28 PM
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Americans are sooo solipsistic. They don't even know what's happening outside of their country. There are many European countries that do have legal prostitution, like Germany or Greece, and guess what, nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:18 PM
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I don't give a shit if femininity and masculinity both disappear. In fact, an end to gender roles would be GREAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:43 PM
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You realize that replacing masculinity is not the same as replacing men, right? Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:38 PM
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Who cares, the question is for what men would do. Supposedly, men need women only for sex, while women need men for provision and protection and protection. This means that women would not be satisfied with robots, while men would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:23 PM
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No, only Americans are this retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:55 PM
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Why do neoreactionaries keep promoting the myth that women working is not good for the economy when studies show literally the opposite? https://hbr.org/2018/01/when-more-women-join-the-workforce-wages-rise-including-for-men https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/economic-empowerment/facts-and-figures
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:54 PM
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There is evidence that women working is beneficial to the economy. https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/economic-empowerment/facts-and-figures https://hbr.org/2018/01/when-more-women-join-the-workforce-wages-rise-including-for-men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:52 PM
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A woman dressing up as a man is different than a man being born male.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:46 PM
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They believe that only sex exists and that "gender" is a social construct. They disagree with transgenderism because transgenders believe you can be "born" with a certain gender identity. (something that implies that gender is biological and not a social construct.) They also don't like transgender athletes in women's sports etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:59 AM
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I don't hate them and the video he's referring to is not about a transwoman, but about a woman dressing up as a man as part of some experiment. Radfems are against the trans movement for various reasons. I personally don't care about the whole issue but if you want to know their arguments just go to /r/gendercritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:22 AM
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There is actual evidence that shows that men are healthier and more satisfied in feminist countries than in patriarchal countries. This article offers some good sources. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/08/gender-equal-international-womens-day-men Men around here unironically think that they would have better lives in Iran than in Sweden, so their opinion is not to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:10 PM
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If you guys are so bothered by male on male violence, why don't you try to reduce it? Feminists would offer no disagreement to that. Oh, it's because you actually don't care about male on male violence, you just use it to "own" the feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:54 PM
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Femininity traditionally means staying at home to take care of the kids. Masculinity means EVERYTHING else. How do you not see traditional femininity as limiting? There's a reason why many women try to imitate the masculine life, while very few men try to imitate the feminine life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:41 PM
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It's because femininity is way more limiting than masculinity, just like feminists say. And men receive much more respect from society. (the small circle of SJWs that bashes men is hardly the norm)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:37 PM
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on't do it! That lesbian (iirc?) chick tried it and only needed therapy You realize that being born a man is different than a women PRETENDING to be a man, right? I have watched the video you're talking about, that woman looked feminine as fuck. That's different than the real male experience. Femininity is way more limiting than masculinity, that's a fact. Lets look at what femininity and masculinity mean traditionally. Femininity: Staying at home to take care of the kids. Masculinity: Literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:34 PM
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And most men don't realize how much women are disrespected and demeaned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:23 PM
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That's ignorant. Many transwomen do not pass as "real women" and get treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:10 PM
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It means nothing because biological males are more vulnerable to certain disorders than women. You can observe gender imbalances in other disorders too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:07 PM
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How ignorant can you be? Marital rape was only outlawed in the United States in the early 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:45 PM
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You realize that in the western world, the husband could legally rape his wife until the 90s, right? You realize that in Southern Italy, women were often pressured into marrying their own rapists, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:40 PM
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Women were not respected at all, they were seen as property. This is why when a woman got raped it was seen as a crime against the father/husband, not as a crime against the woman as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:36 PM
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Yes, women were always respected, we can see that. /s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Wl6zbrat0&t=5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnmtKLQRh6g&t=397s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8cpycdA03A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD8Tnmeba40&t=781s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:19 PM
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That men are not "respected" in today's society. Guess what, women have never been respected, learn to live with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:39 PM
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Young women get sexual attention on the streets all the time. It gets annoying if not outright scary. Here are some examples of things that have happened to me: -A random guy stopped with his car in front of me and told me to get inside. -A random guy was literally following me and trying to get me to to talk to him. He wouldn't take no for an answer and just kept following me. -I was groped by an old guy inside the bus. When I tried to move to another seat, he just followed me there. When these…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:20 PM
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Lmao at men thinking that it's that easy to get married to a doctor. Have you ever been to university? Men who study to become doctors or lawyers know they're high value even when they're still students. I have a friend who studies at a law school and most guys there only date the top girls. A guy like that would have to be ridiculously ugly to settle for an average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:50 PM
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I have read all of it. The "Misandry Bubble" essay is white nationalist propaganda. (it literally whines about "white birth rates" and about Muslims taking over) If you look at who wrote it, the guy is a literal alt-righter. The sidebar also used to link to a literal white nationalist blog, named Heartiste Chataeu, that has been banned now. This blog used to whine about interracial couples and advocated for banning women from voting. Then you have the essay arguing that women are less mature tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:16 PM
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Yep average women have such an inflated ego that they'll see the average man as useless, demanding things from men that they themselves don't have, thanks for reminding us. The average woman is more realistic than the average man. What does the average man have to offer to women? Sexual pleasure? Haha no. Stats show that straight men are the group that has the most orgasms, surpassing even the gays. Straight women are the group that has the least orgasms. https://link.springer.com/article/10.100…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:48 PM
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Even if they're not outright white nationalist, many Red Pillers have very neoreactionary views, like that women shouldn't vote, that women should be kicked out of the workforce etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:50 PM
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Average men can find dates, even among younger women if they choose well. For example, many average men go to places like Thailand to date poor, young women. Whether there is real "attraction" or not is another issue. Many women will never be attracted to the average man simply because most average men suck and have nothing to offer. However, the obsession with "real attraction" is a bullshit, western phenomenon. In some Eastern countries, many couples marry for practical reasons and understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:48 PM
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Roosh had actually tried to become cosy with white nationalists in the past, so you chose a bad example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:21 PM
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Who cares what he call himself now? He still spent years advocating for violence against women and non-whites. He was explicitly Red Pill and promoted the RP view of female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:19 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3debh5/how_the_feminine_imperative_is_destroying_reddit/ct4lae7/ No. Stop tone policing. Women are inferior physically (watch bottom four videos of Gender Equality Narrative section), mentally and emotionally. Women, as linked in the previous sentence, and confirmed by everyday experience, are mentally ill upon birth to navigate the sexual market place without acheiving cognitive dissonance. There's no other way to put it. If men had the mindset as des…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:01 PM
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First of all, women bashing men is obviously not the same as men bashing women. You don't see women going around murdering men the way you see men murdering women. You don't see societies where the male infants are murdered for bring male. Second of all, this guy is not some random, he was CisWhiteMaelstrom and wa s a famous Red Pillers back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:47 AM
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There is a part of the alt right that is absolutely Red Pill when it comes to "female nature". Think about the Andrew Anglin variety. He believes that white women should be violently assaulted on the streets for being sluts and that we should enforce "white sharia". He uses TRP lingo all the time. ("hypergamy" etc.) Anyway, TRP has strong links to the alt-right and neoreactionaryism and everyone who has been around long enough knows this. Heck, Heartiste Chataeu used to be openly white nationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:42 AM
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No. Women do not get "turned on" by men doing chores. The point is that in the lower classes, there are families where both the man and the woman works, but the woman also does most of the housework and childcare, while the man doesn't do anything at home. The argument is that if men help with the chores, they will easy the burden for women and create more free time for them, which might lead to more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:16 AM
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TRP used to promote an openly white nationalist blog in the sidebar named Heartiste Chataeu. Also, here are some charming opinions of some well-respected RP ECs and vanguards. GLO: White nationalist CisWhiteMaelstrom: White nationalist (he's gone now because he was doxxed years ago for his white nationalist views) Demonspawn: Neoreactionary, believes women shouldn't vote. Archwinger: Neoreactionary, believes women shouldn't vote racontemoi: Neoreactionary, believes women shouldn't vote burningti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:07 AM
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Protecting your borders doesn't mean that you believe all non-whites should be kicked out of the country, genius. You can be patriotic without being a racist piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:54 AM
0

Oh great. An actual alt-right weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:45 AM
2

If a Christian priest promotes extremist rhetoric, then yes, that's problematic. Same case with an Islamic cleric promoting extremist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:51 AM
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It's ridiculous to equate women bashing men with men bashing women. You don't see women going out murdering men, the way men murder women. But even if you want to equate them, the point still stands that hate speech is toxic and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:15 AM
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Nice neg.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:52 PM
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Gold 1. Why? You play?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:47 PM
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But even if it doesn't lead to violence,(which is does) it can cause other forms of harm. For example it can cause gender discrimination. How many Red Pill dudes would hire a woman to work for their business? How many Red Pill dudes think women are competent workers? Probably not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:08 PM
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You know that many incel killers got radicalized online, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:07 PM
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I don't care. The fact is that yes, hate speech leads to violence. Also, if not outright violence, then TRP woman bashing has definitely led to gender discrimination. How many Red Pill dudes would hire a woman when many are brainwahed into believing that women shouldn't even vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:01 PM
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I just posted evidence that shows that yes, hate speech is linked to violence, and you can find multiple instances of blatantly approved hate speech in TRP. Just look at this rant. Does it look like well-meaning criticism to you? Like the "impassionate and objective observation of the world" that TRP claims to be? https://archive.vn/jKDk3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:54 PM
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And how do you know that, genius? You realize that TRP has strong links to the alt-right, which definitely causes violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:37 PM
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So you don't care if it causes real life violence as long as it "makes people mad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:34 PM
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Criticizing women is not the same thing as bashing and you should know this. TRP frequently engages in actual woman bashing. https://archive.vn/jKDk3 Does this look like well-meaning criticism to you? Because it looks more like a rant. He just declared "women are shit" and "women are all insane". And this guy is not some random, he's a well-respected RP Vanguard. No? None of those studies? Just 6 out of every 4 women are raped 30 times a day with a leading question survey? That's all? Yea, we ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:32 PM
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No. It's just how life is and not only when it comes to dating. Many cruel, manipulative people get to have good lives. For example, there was a girl who was mean to me in high school and she has a better job than me and probably a better life overall. So what? I didn't make a big deal out of this. Life is not fair, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:50 PM
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Being a "nice guy" doesn't mean everything. Everyone is "nice". (unless you're a literal murderer or something) The so called "nice guys" should stop thinking that they're entitled to rewards and pats in the back just for showing basic human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:13 PM
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TRP could have been a politically neutral community to discuss sexual issues, but it's obviously not. It has been diluted by neoreactionary rhetoric from the very start. In fact, many "Red Pill elites" are openly white nationalist. (examples: GLO, CisWhiteMaelstrom, the Heartiste Chataeu blog etc. and others, like Demonspawn, have similarly extremist views)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:54 PM
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I am trying to soften my tone so that more women will get the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:00 PM
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Considering that TRP is strongly connected to the neoreactionary movement, it becoming mainstream will mean the end of liberal democracy. If the neoreactionaries prevail, I imagine the society would become similar to the hardcore islamist societies, except with dubious "scientism" and white supremacy instead of Islam. I imagine eugenics and classism based on race and IQ will be the norm. People that have high IQ will be considered the "natural" leaders of society and a new aristocracy will be fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:58 PM
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Yes, many men have nothing else to offer to women. Sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:54 PM
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Well, clearly there's more to it because stats disagree with you. People who marry young tend to have more unstable marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:45 AM
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This has nothing to do with marrying early or late. There are women who have had 10 partners by the time they're 19 and women who have had 3 partners at 30 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:39 AM
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Yes. I will actually quote a Red Piller on how men view women. Men wouldn't talk to women if there wasn't an irrational tendency towards love. Women aren't useful and on higher speculation just aren't worth it. It's the lizard brain that makes us put up with this bullshit. Say what you want about women having awesome charm and what not, but let's be real here. Valuing that at all is lizard brain stuff. Women don't need to be like that. There are rational reasons to love men. We bring a lot to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:16 AM
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Well, yea. Women spend more time with their kids, so women will kill their kids more often. If men spent more time with their kids than women, then men would kill their kids just as often, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:26 AM
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You've continually misconstrued those studies and have been corrected many times. No, I have not been corrected at all. I have not seen any evidence whatsoever that I'm wrong. Most people who tried to "correct" me on this issue didn't use ANY evidence only speculation, like that women are only generous to "virtue-signal". (as if that means anything, EVERYONE does nice things for some personal benefit) Men not having sex is not a bigger problem than sexual assault. Just because women don't want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:06 AM
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I don't "hate" men, but I do have an overall negative view of them and I believe women are usually better people. (and this is supported by scientific studies that show that women are more generous, more likely to donate to charity, more likely to share and are generally nicer and more empathetic) My personal experiences have very little to do with my perception of men.(although I guess they did play some minor role) I am mainly relying on observation from a third party perspective and scientifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:44 PM
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How can TRP worldview be so hilariously wrong? I am not going to comment on the evo psych parts, because they're not the point. Regardless of whether TRP is right about female dating preferences, their actual worldview and conclusions are hilariously false. Here are some examples of how flawed the worldview is: 1)Red Pillers believe that "feminization" of men/society is making men more unhappy/unhealthy. Meanwhile, actual studies show the OPPOSITE. Men are healthier and happier in more gender eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:23 PM
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Women’s average monthly salaries in Sweden are less than 88 per cent of men’s – 95.5 per cent when differences in choice of profession and sector are taken into account (2016). That doesn't count all the women who are housewives and don't work, or those who work unofficially. My point is that women make less money than men, period. It's convenient for a woman to partner up with a wealthy male if she wants a good life for her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:11 AM
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Well, maybe it's a correlation vs. causation thing. After all, there is some evidence that hypergamy is decreasing as women are becoming more equal. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28490820
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:47 AM
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If they want to have kids, then it's much more convenient to have two incomes. Men in Scandinavia are still superior economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:40 AM
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Nobody said that the hunter-gatherers were communists. The point is that they were quite egalitarian by today's standards and the women also had a better role than they did after agriculture was invented. They took care of each other as a tribal group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:38 AM
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And what does this have to do with the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:34 AM
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Really wonder what happened to this dude. He was one of the most prominent terpers back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:16 AM
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Because men's preferences are obviously more shallow. At least women actually appreciate men for their charisma, their successes and achievements. Men only care about appearances. They would just prefer a sex doll if they looked realistic. Honestly, if women were not economically inferior in society, many would them would want nothing to do with men, and for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:14 AM
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Bitchy women have 0 difficulty getting a man as long as they're attractive. Men only care about appearances. I literally know a woman who was a serial cheater but when I was her friend, and she's married to some steroid using, gym enthusiast right now. It is actually women who care about a man's personality, although just being a "nice guy" is not enough. Everyone is a "nice guy", the terms means shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:02 AM
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An interesting read about what "men hate women" means. https://medium.com/mensplainr/what-does-men-hate-women-mean-871591521364 And no, men supposedly "protecting" women, definitely doesn't mean they don't hate them. I firmly believe that men protect women only because of instincts. I will leave it to an old RP dude named CisWhiteMaelstromg to explain male disdain towards women. Men wouldn't talk to women if there wasn't an irrational tendency towards love. Women aren't useful and on higher spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 01:36 AM
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There are studies that show that men are more likely to be narcissists, so you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:19 PM
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It is men that started the sex war when they decided to oppress women and even today, they want to go back to "the good old days of the patriarchy". (as seen by most Red Pillers and neoreactionary men who romanticize the past) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwqOTXRZR7g&t=1125s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-VhFHkUoY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD8Tnmeba40&t=779s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnmtKLQRh6g You never see societies that treat men like the property of women. You do see soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 06:31 PM
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Many men have literally NOTHING to offer to women, except money. I don't know what else they expect. Why should a woman want them? For their mediocre af sex skills? For their average af dick? For the nonexistent emotional support that they (don't) offer? Being wanted for money is not a bad thing at all. It's only in the West that it's such a taboo, in many Eastern cultures it's widely accepted that a man should be financially stable in order to be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:32 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fyb21g/why_do_mra_subs_not_actually_discuss_mens_issues/fn0h3gb/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:11 PM
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You just have a problem with women being sexually active. You hate female sexuality, like all men. Just look at how men talk about hypergamy, they treat it like a huge flaw. This is proof of how much men despise female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:37 PM
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Oh, so your problem is actually that women are not asexual creatures like you would like them to be. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:32 PM
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This makes 0 sense. The average woman is in fact nicer and more generous than the average man and there are studies that prove it. I can post them if you like. The reason why you think that women are exceptionally bad is that you're prejudiced against women, just like all men, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:28 PM
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Falling in love with someone has nothing to do with liking someone for who they are. Men just have an idealized version of women in their minds and they fall in love with that ideal, they don't truly love a woman for her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:25 PM
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They are part of who you are. Men don't like women for their personalities. Period. In fact men in general don't like women, they only tolerate them because of their sex drive and instincts. Remember CisWhiteMaelstrom? He was a well-known red piller back in 2013-2016 and he had famously said that if it wasn't for the lizard brain, men would hate all women. I think he was telling the truth, so I will just quote him: Men wouldn't talk to women if there wasn't an irrational tendency towards love. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:16 PM
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Men don't love women for who they are. In fact, women are more likely to appreciate men for their character traits, their successes and achievements. Men only care about appearances and couldn't care less for a woman's achievements. In fact, the less personality a woman has, the better for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:19 PM
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Haven't you seen the people saying that if only we had a real patriarchy, then these incels wouldn't exist? What do you think the implication is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:49 AM
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Many strongly imply this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:41 PM
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Just in the other thread, some guys was telling me that men committing crimes is mainly women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:25 PM
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Men around here certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:04 PM
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And how do you know these women are lying, genius?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:02 PM
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There are people here who think that women should be disenfranchized and get forcibly married to incels because otherwise these incels will become "violent" and start raping and killing. What did you expect from people who remove all male agency and responsibility? Incel kills people? Women's fault. Criminal commits crime? Women's fault because women choose to reproduce with criminals. Man rapes woman? She's lying and also somehow her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:57 PM
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Men need women more than women need men. You don't see women going on a murderous rampage because they can't get a man, do you? Yet we do see men like that, look at the incel murders. If you look at stats, married men are better off than single men. The same is NOT true for married women vs. single women. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-it-women https://www.jstor.org/stable/585665?seq=1 Women have strong bonds with each other, men don't. This is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:29 PM
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But it makes no sense. The only reason why men don't do it is because they can't. It has nothing to do with them being more loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:09 PM
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It's pure hypocrisy. These men want women to abandon their education and career and get married at 19, but they also don't want to have to pay alimony in case of divorce. If it was up to them, they would marry a 19 years old without an income of her own, abandon her once she hits the wall and never pay her anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:38 PM
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women do it more because they can. If men could be married off to survive , they would do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:28 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcibiades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Battalions mEn nEveR bEtraY tHeir cOuntriEs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:23 PM
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Oh you mean dirt poor women marrying foreign soldiers to survive? That's total bullshit anyway, men are just as likely to betray their country. Many men sided with the Nazis during ww2.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:18 PM
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And men have polygyny. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:06 PM
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Citation needed that women are less loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:38 PM
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Just more proof that men gain more from relationships with women than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:59 PM
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Yea, you're wrong. Men are more likely to be sociopathic. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11920-004-0042-8 The most striking findings concern antisocial personality disorder, which is more common in men, and borderline personality disorder, which is more common in women. Why are men always projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:55 PM
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Yes, sure everything women do is a bad. Everything men do, is good. Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:16 AM
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Women are not less loyal at all. Stats show that men are more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:57 AM
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To show that TRPillers are hypocritical about stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:56 AM
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Yea, yea we know. Sexual assault never happens, it's all a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:55 AM
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Women are more generous, more empathetic and more agreeable than men. They donate more to charity too. Sounds to me like they're generally kinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:18 PM
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Female infanticide was also common in the ancient greco-roman world. Seems to me like women are not valued as much as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:53 PM
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If women are so inherently valuable, why is female infanticide more common than male infanticide?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:42 PM
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Of course. Men can't wait to get rid of their sick wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:00 PM
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It usually means "being eager to please others". Sure, it's not a very good trait, but it does make you come across as nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:55 PM
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Towards the poorest and most unfortunate. There is data that shows that women are more likely to donate to charity for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:40 PM
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This won't work with women - especially a Queen Bee / Mean Girls kind of woman - so it pays to be nice in advance. Men tend to be more competitive with each other than women. While women are often competitive with each other, they almost never reach the antagonism and aggression that many men have with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:57 PM
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The point is that women are worst as partners. They expect and demmand more, have higher standards and offer less in return. And since they have the options, they leave with ease. This is false. Married men tend to be massively better off than single men, while the same is not true for married women vs. single women. This suggests that men tend to gain more from being with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:53 PM
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People assume that women are kinder because it's usually true. Look at this study about the WAWE. https://rutgerssocialcognitionlab.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/9/7/13979590/rudmangoodwin2004jpsp.pdf Experiments 2 and 3 found pro-female bias to the extent that participants automatically favored their mothers over their fathers or associated male gender with violence, suggesting that maternal bonding and male intimidation influence gender attitudes. Experiment 4 showed that for sexually experienced men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:35 PM
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Where is the evidence that men only do shitty things to get laid? Please post your sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:19 PM
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i JuSt aCteD LiKe A pIecE of ShiT tO gEt lAid, tOtaLLy nOt mY faUlt, iT's dem wOOOMEN
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:11 PM
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Women are not responsible for your shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:07 PM
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PPD in general is incredibly biased. Most members are Red Pill or at least sympathetic to it and this distorts the discourse. They can basically promote whatever bullshit they like and face 0 challenging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 05:40 PM
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Men are on average worse people than women. The WAWE is a pretty hot topic in the manosphere. Like most stereotypes, it's not entirely true. There are many women who are just horrible people. However, like many stereotypes is IS based on reality. Women are on average nicer people than men. Lets look at the evidence. Women more agreeable than men. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/ Replicating previous findings, women reported higher Big Five Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 05:18 PM
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It works if the man is wealthy and good-looking. Otherwise, hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:05 PM
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The Blue Pill is just telling you that you can't judge every single person based on stereotypes. What's so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:05 AM
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Considering feminism actively encourage circumcision of boys, it's only legitimate to criticize feminism/feminists. This is outright false. The main people who encourage circumcision are tradcons and religious people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:32 AM
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Because very few of them actually care about equality. Many are tradcons who are just there to whine about feminists. One example is circumcision. They act as if women/feminists are somehow responsible for it, not tradcons and religious minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:29 AM
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mEn hAvE nO AgEncY, iT's aLwaYs dem wOmen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:28 AM
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I didn't say whether it is right or wrong to not report it. I just explained to you that people don't always report crimes and this doesn't mean the crimes didn't happen!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:28 AM
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Delusion. People don't report every crime to the police for various reasons. For example, maybe someone doesn't report a crime because they can't prove it. This doesn't mean that the crime didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:16 PM
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Did you read the details? Most of the work is done by women. Also, low class women did work in the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:15 PM
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If you don't know the difference between seduction and rape then don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:53 PM
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This is not incel content.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:52 PM
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I love how the first thought of TRPillers whenever a woman says she was raped is "lol, she is just lying bro". Like these women are not reporting their own rape to the police, they're just describing their experiences, yet Rollo still thinks they do it for money somehow. https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1248119958719975425 Woman: I didn't report my rape to the police because X,Y Rollo: You just want money. Woman: How will I get money when I'm not reporting anyone. I'm just describing my e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:20 PM
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I am talking about historically, not about something that happened the last 20 years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:49 PM
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In patriarchal societies, marital rape is perfectly acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:37 AM
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First of all, men in patriarchal societies can rape their wives all they want. Second of all, rape and prostitution are now allowed because they oppress someone else. Women's sexuality is repressed even if we're talking about consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:04 AM
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Are you white? Many people in these countries worship whites and fetishize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:24 AM
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Women were forced to obey their father and husband. They were excluded from most high paying jobs. In many societies men could beat and rape their own wives with 0 consequences. But sure, I bet you also think that women in Saudi Arabia are not oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:21 AM
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Read more about what the Mosuo men do. They're largely left to fuck off and go spend time with other time. They're not controlled the way women in patriarchal societies are, that's my point. Nobody tells them who to sleep with. Nobody sells them to sex slavery. Nobody forces them to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:17 AM
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Many RPillers, (including the top mod of TRP, redpillschool) believe that marital rape is not a thing. So I assume they believe that men can do whatever they want as long as there is an established relationship. Remember, that we're talking about people who think "false rape accusations" are a bigger thing than actual rape and sexual assault. They don't count as rape by white men as "real rape" because they view women as possessions. Only rape by Muslims and minorities counts as "real rape". Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:28 PM
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In my country, there was a literal pornstar in her 30s who married a rich businessman so....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:46 PM
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Men are the "evil" gender". I can bring you studies that show that women are more generous and nicer than men, This is not some conspiracy, just the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:43 PM
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Society views women as less violent and evil. (because it's largely true) This is the WAWE. However, society still looks down on women and feminine interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:51 PM
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I will just copy paste what I have posted in a previous thread. TRPillers seem to think that men in the West are "feminized" and are somehow punished for being masculine. Dudes, like Rollo Tomassi seem to think that "women are raised to believe that they can do anything", (despite all evidence to the contrary) while apparently men are raised to hate their own gender. https://therationalmale.com/2017/10/09/male-control/ https://therationalmale.com/2019/01/16/gender-war/ https://twitter.com/ration…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:05 PM
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Manospherians cry about "muh misandry" everytime someone dares to poke fun at men... But the point is that we already have a culture that looks down on women and make fun of them. Women are just not respected the way men are. This is why Karen is potentially harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:51 PM
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Yes, it seems like just another excuse to make fun of women. I wouldn't call it a slur, but feminists should criticize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:32 PM
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I don't care about this American bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:26 PM
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"Misandry" is not a real thing. The world literally worships men and masculinity and looks down on everything feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:36 PM
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Citation needed. There are many studies that show that discrimination against women is a very real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:40 PM
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I see you have no refutation for the things I say. As about the gender pay gap. Why do you think women work less hours in the first place? Could it be because they have to look after the children since men don't bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:20 PM
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I was reading this study and it's really very interesting. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6142169/ The dominant pattern of practice for men in this study was in actively compartmentalizing relationships, whereby men differentiated between their social connections with men and with women. Six men (40%) described a pattern of practice where social relationships with men were purely instrumental, primarily based around shared social or physical activities, with little sharing or discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:30 PM
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I was reading this study and it's really very interesting. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6142169/ The dominant pattern of practice for men in this study was in actively compartmentalizing relationships, whereby men differentiated between their social connections with men and with women. Six men (40%) described a pattern of practice where social relationships with men were purely instrumental, primarily based around shared social or physical activities, with little sharing or discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:20 PM
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The thought of sleeping with men disgusts me. I have been sexually assaulted by men in the past and I have never been able to enjoy sex, it's always a chore for me. Of course most police officers and prison guards are men. Men have the monopoly of the violence of the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:19 PM
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https://www.apa.org/monitor/jun05/helping Indeed, dozens of studies and surveys over the past several decades have shown that men of all ages and ethnicities are less likely than women to seek help for all sorts of problems--including depression, substance abuse and stressful life events--even though they encounter those problems at the same or greater rates as women. In a 1993 study published in Psychotherapy (Vol. 30, No. 4, pages 546-553), for example, psychologist John Vessey, PhD, reviewed …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:59 PM
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What do you not understand when I tell you that if I suddenly grew a vagina and became a woman I'd be less in danger than I am right now as a man? The fact the danger comes from my own gender doesn't mean anything at all. If you're worried about men being victims of violence from other men , why don't you waste your time trying to reduce the violence of your gender instead of bitching about women on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:49 PM
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Men are more likely to be homeless because of toxic masculinity. Encourage men to ask for help and support each other the way women do and homelessness rates will drop. There are actual studies that show a link between masculinity and being less likely to ask for help for mental health related issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:45 PM
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The main danger to men is other men. The main danger to women is men. What do you not understand? No, women are not responsible for male violence. You're dodging responsibility like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:28 PM
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They precise "by your own love interest" because men are more likely to be murdered for any other existing reason. Nice cherry picking. Yes, they're more likely to be murdered BY OTHER MEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:10 PM
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I have no doubt that minority men and low-class men face significant difficulties. My point was that in most cases they still have it easier than their female counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:07 PM
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Men get more social and sexual validation. Women are punished for being "promiscuous" and sexual creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:22 PM
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What did you expect from people who think that just because a few women get gifts from thirsty fucks that want to have sex with them, this is somehow proof of "Female privilege". Men's lives are so much easier than women's, it's not even funny. I will just copy paste what I posted in the other thread. Affirmative action/female quotas exist to combat the actual sexism prevalent in certain professions that also happen to be the most high-paying ones. You guys like to whine about gender quotas but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:02 PM
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The fact is, we have explicit discrimination against whites and males in corporate hiring Delusional if you think that "affirmative action" is a bigger thing than actual sexism and racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:14 AM
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I can play this game too. Affirmative action/female quotas exist to combat the actual sexism prevalent in certain professions that also happen to be the most high-paying ones. You guys like to whine about gender quotas but the reality is that actual discrimination against women is much more prevalent. https://phys.org/news/2019-03-women-percent-hiring-men.html In general terms, of the resumes considered,more than 5,600, male candidates were called to interview in a higher proportion (10.9 percen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:57 AM
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Nice non-arguments you got there. No, when someone only appreciates you for having big tits and nothing else, that's generally considered pretty shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:57 PM
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Because they prove nothing. These countries might have had female rulers but they were still male-dominated patriarchies. If you look at more matriarchal societies, like the Mosuo in China, they tend to be more peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:17 PM
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Men are more shallow than women. Think about it. Women are more likely to appreciate men for who they are, for their personalities, successes and achievements. Men don't give a shit about a woman's personality. (even TRP says so) They only care about your body and you looking as young as possible. They literally only care about appearances. They don't care about a woman's successes, in fact they're likely to look down on successful career women. However, they don't really appreciate housewives a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:14 PM
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I am not anti-male at all. I simply call out males on their bullshit. Most of the things I say are not even controversial if you look at it objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:10 PM
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I see way worse stuff being posted about women on /r/TheRedPill and /r/MGTOW yet you don't seem too bothered by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:00 PM
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Well then both femininity and masculinity will be obsolete and we will move towards a more gender neutral world. Sounds good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:37 PM
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Feminine values like compromise over violence and cooperation over competition are going to prevail. The economy will shift to being more of a social democracy too. There's no other choice as pure capitalism is impossible with automation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:32 PM
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From your second source: The queens’ marital status made a difference here; as the authors write, “among married monarchs, queens were more likely to participate as attackers than kings.” If a queen were single — which was the case with 13 of those they studied — she was more likely to be attacked compared to the times when a king was in power, perhaps because her country was seen in the outside world as being more vulnerable and thus easier to attack. You just proved the opposite of what you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:27 PM
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Women are human beings and men are human doings. Women will have value for existing (even TRP says so), men need to prove themselves to be valuable. The loss of jobs will inevitably affect men/masculinity more in that regard. Not to mention that women are increasingly entering previously male dominated fields like Law and Medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:20 PM
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It is men who derive value from work, not women. edit: what I mean by this is that individual women can derive value from work, but femininity as a whole is not related to the work you do the way masculinity is. Women are human beings and men are human doings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:10 PM
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Masculinity is aggression and dominance. While those traits can be good under certain circumstances, they're definitely pretty bad in modern, civil societies, which is why they're so discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:02 PM
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Red Pillers: Male and female sexuality are fundamentally different. Also Red Pillers: Women are unreasonable for not reacting like men to sex issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:41 PM
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Why should something be done about it? I say it's an overall good thing. It means that women are not coerced and pressured into having sex with low value men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:22 AM
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Women are REALLY more agreeable than men and there are studies about this. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:47 AM
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What do you mean why? TRPillers are obsessed with analyzing female nature. I am just helping them out by pointing out something that they have ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:17 AM
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I didn't say the guy is at fault. I just said that this type of sex is more common than some think. Women know about this, it's only men that are in the dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:15 AM
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Women are more agreeable than men and there are studies about this. Like it or not, many women can't say no. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/ It's convenient that TRPillers act as if men who pay alimony are somehow manipulated victims, even though they were married out of their own free will and should have known that divorce was always a possibility, yet they cannot imagine women having sex when they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:11 AM
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> If you go by false positive statistics, it seems most rape victims are liars. ​ Citation needed. Just because a rape wasn't proven to have happened it doesn't mean it didn't actually happen, you know this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:54 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/ Women are more agreeable than men, this is supported by studies, like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:52 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/ women reported higher Big Five Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism scores than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:51 AM
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So? Have you actually seen the movie? It's completely from the POV of the male hero, it's about HIS journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:27 PM
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I don't know about rape, but all women I know have been sexually assaulted in some way. I was literally sexually assaulted at the bud when I was 13. Some older guy was literally groping me all over, I was trying to move away from him and he would just follow me around, like literally following me as a I moved to another seat! Another time, I was like 16 and I went to a guy's house and he tried to pressure me to have sex when I didn't want to, like he literally tried to FORCEFULLY remove my skirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:19 PM
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?? 500 days of summer is a movie aimed primarily at men. It's seen from the point of view of the male protagonist and it was actually criticized as anti-female back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:11 PM
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Political discussions are very common in RP communities. The Red Pill mods even created a political sub called "theredpillright" in order to exclusively discuss politics. It's a joke that we can't even point out that TRP is political.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:53 AM
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It's a total joke that this sub doesn't allow political discussions, when they're very common in RP communities. It's like, TRPillers are free to spread political propaganda, but no one is allowed to call them out on it. I swear the active mods around here are very RP-friendly, no wonder very few actual users are Blue Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:41 AM
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No, evidence actually shows that men are more likely to cheat. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:20 AM
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Many men here act like sexual harassment in the workplace basically never happens and all sexual harassment allegations are false. Whenever there is a sexual harassment accusation, some dudes around here IMMEDIATELY assume that she's a liar. Do you really believe it? Lets leave false allegations out of the discussion for now. Is it really that hard to believe that there are men who sexually harass women in the workplace? Because in my experience, sexual harassment and sexual assault are disgusti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:25 AM
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women historically were exempt from military service obligations for example They didn't want women in the military because they didn't see them as useful in that role. You really think they would dodge the opportunity to draft lower class women if they believed they were just as capable as men in a military role? It wasn't to protect women, they just believed women would be more useful to society raising kids than being in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:15 AM
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In order to debate this issue, TRPillers would have to admit the existence of fascists among their elite members. After all, how can we "debate" honestly if one side just prefers to play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:11 AM
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Sure, nobody should be allowed to call out the obvious connections between TRP and the alt-right. Lets all pretend to be blind so that they can recruit more people in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:56 AM
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Of course. Nobody should be allowed to call out TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:43 AM
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May I remind you that Heartiste Chataeu was openly far-right and white nationalist and yet it was considered one of the most important RP blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:42 AM
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Many prominent Endorsed Contributors are Vanguards agree with this view. Demonspawn and Archwinger come to mind. And there have been RP Vanguards that have had even MORE extreme views. (for example GayLubeOil and CisWhiteMaelstrom had strong connections to the alt-right)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 10:03 PM
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I wouldn't underestimate them if I were you. Far-right extremists are mostly a small group, yet they have still caused a lot of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 10:01 PM
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My problem is that they're literally using poorly supported theories to propagandize and promote a certain extremist political narrative. If you don't see an issue with this then I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 10:00 PM
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Believe it or not, there are many prominent Red Pillers, including Endorsed Contributors and Vanguards, who believe that we should remove women's suffrage. Demonspawn comes to mind, he used to rant pretty often about this. There have also been various red pill elites who had strong connections to the alt-right. (examples: GayLubeOil, CisWhiteMaelstrom)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 09:58 PM
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You cannot really believe that male and female sexuality are so fundamentally and completely different and still believe that all types of rape are equal. TRPillers tend to believe that any act of sex leaves a permanent mark on a woman, let alone if the sex is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 09:13 PM
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TRPillers generally believe that ANY sex permanently damages a woman, since high n-count women are damaged. If it was rape, then it's seen as even more of a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 08:21 PM
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If you are a Red Pillers, and you believe that sex is a transaction and that women are the gatekeepers of sex, then you should know that this narrative is totally nonsensical. Men and women are different so they experience "rape" differently. I strongly doubt that men get traumatized from "rape" the way women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 08:00 PM
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The question wasn't about the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:40 PM
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I am not a traditional feminist, most mainstream feminists would disagree with me because they think male and female sexuality are equal. I disagree. Male sexuality is obviously more predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:39 PM
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Many RPillers do. Even Rollo Tomassi sometimes spams stories about female teachers on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:32 PM
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Yea, it's probably a way to take a cheap shot at feminism. Still hypocritical of them to act like they believe it. It makes no sense according to their own worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:16 PM
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Fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:24 AM
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This is RARE in reality. If anything, the opposite is more common. Men expect women to be their mommies and their personal therapists. That's why many single men often fall into isolation and mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:02 AM
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Since when do men "emotionally support" women? It's usually the other way around. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:45 AM
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And you missed the point of this thread which is that the average male offers almost nothing to the average, western, economically independent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:15 AM
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Marriage as an institution is better for men than for women , so your premise is false. You might say that correlation doesn't equal causation, but that doesn't explain why this correlation doesn't seem to apply to women. Like it or not, there is evidence that marriage makes men happier than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:13 AM
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Men vastly overestimate what they have to offer to the average, western woman. That is the point. Why should women have to prove themselves to men when it is proven again and again that men gain more from relationships than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:12 AM
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Why should a woman date a man that makes less than her? The average man has nothing to offer to women except material resources. Sorry, but that's the truth. I don't understand the obsession of some people, why should women date some loser that brings nothing to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:21 AM
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Let me guess, you think male and female sexuality are identical?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:28 PM
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Nobody cares if you don't interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:32 PM
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If you are a Red Piller you should know that male and female sexuality are different, therefore an adult man having sex with a teenager will never be the same as an adult women having sex with a teenager. Equating male an female sexuality is blank slatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:52 PM
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Who the heck cares? This video will become relevant when women start raping men just as much as men rape women. And no, 25 years old female teachers having consensual sex with 17 years old male students is not real rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:26 PM
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TRP is a neoreactionary ideology that has little to do with evo psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:32 AM
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Why do you care if you get criticized? Can't you just do what you want? All of my exes were older than me. My parents and friends all thought it was weird, I never gave a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:35 AM
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TRP stuff is 90% based on anecdotes and speculation yet you're bothered by my hypothesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:32 AM
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There was one time years ago. I was hanging out with this guy at my village. We were at the sea, swimming. He asked me out when we were in the water and I rejected him. He then violently pushed my head into the water and tried to drown me. TRPillers here believe such things never happen because men are angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:27 AM
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They evolved because of this reason. Of course this doesn't mean the deceit will be used only for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:25 AM
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?? The iliad is fiction. And what about Cleopatra and Aisha?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:52 AM
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https://observer.com/2018/03/studies-show-men-are-more-narcissistic-heres-why/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:50 AM
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I was talking about why women evolved that way historically. It was to survive in a male dominated world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:46 AM
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And who was the "state"? Because it definitely wasn't women. The army/police/government etc. all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:45 AM
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There are multiple cares of men literally murdering women over rejection. Like it or not, men react violently when their pride is hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:10 AM
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This is not a rant, I make arguments to support my claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:32 PM
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I have my doubts about whether men really like women's bodies tbh. I think most men view he male body as superior. Here's an interesting quote from Schopernhauer. It is only a man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual impulse that could give the name of the fair sex to that under-sized, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race; for the whole beauty of the sex is bound up with this impulse. Instead of calling them beautiful there would be more warrant for describing women as the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:30 PM
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The rant by girlwriteswhat proves nothing. I have read it, her whole argument is that men can't hate women because they "protect them". However, I disagree with her conclusion. Men don't protect women, they only protect male honor. They view their own women as part of their male identity, that's why they don't want anyone else to harm them. The same men would happily rape and violate women of other nations/culture, just to punish the male identity of the "other" men. I explain my argument here. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:15 PM
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I don't "hate" men. I simply recognize that they hate and despise everything about women. Women are actually more likely to appreciate men for what they are. They appreciate men for their achievements and successes and their character traits. Men however, couldn't care less about a woman's personality. (even TRP says so) Men only appreciate women as possessions, as something that is part of their own male identity. I cannot think of a single thing that men appreciate about women as people. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:31 AM
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Historically men have used religion, ideology, even the law itself to control women. Men's obsession with women's bodies knows no bounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:55 AM
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Pure delusion. Many women live alone and can take care of spiders on their own. However, if a man is nearby why not make him do it? It's only convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:55 AM
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Men are just obsessed with controlling women's bodies. You don't even need a study to see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:38 AM
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I wasn't the one who made it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:33 AM
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?? From the comments of TRPillers themselves? The main sub and many RP related blogs are full of neoreactionary propaganda. In some cases they're even preaching outright white nationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:09 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:55 PM
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There are actually many evo psychologists that support similar theories but are fairly progressive, so I doubt it. Geoffrey Miller has been a huge influence to TRP because of his evo psych books, but he seems socially progressive on a personal level. He supports poly relationships and libertarianism. The reason TRP is full of fascists and neoreactionaries is because TRP top contributors intentionally instill alt-right rhetoric to TRP, it has nothing to do with the dating strategy. They're litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:40 PM
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No they don't. Deep down they look down on homemakers. I have even seen multiple Red Pillers and MGTOWs calling SAHMs "lazy".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:15 PM
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Women are actually more likely to appreciate men for what they are. They are more likely to appreciate men for their achievements and successes. Many women even pursue violent men, so your example is totally off. Men on the other hand hate and despise literally everything about women. They only appreciate women as possessions to complete their "male identity". I literally cannot think of a single thing that men like about women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:10 PM
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Nothing, I just want men to admit that they hate and despise female sexuality and womankind in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:53 PM
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Look at how they talk about hypergamy. They literally treat it as a huge flaw. This is proof that men HATE female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:25 PM
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?? This is literally the view of many historians and anthropologists. Do you have proof otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:23 PM
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If the nature of the female was to be submissive, then men wouldn't have to put so much effort into controlling them. The fact that men have gone so far to control women, proves to me that female submission is a social phenomenon, not biological. Maybe it's the same with animals. Male primates are physically stronger so they dominate female animals socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:19 PM
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What the fuck? How could you possibly know this? No we don't, and if anything, the manosphere is evidence that men are obsessed with female sexuality in several different ways, not just "hate" or "disgust". I'm a man, and I revere both sexes sexuality, and so do many males I know. It's fucked up and unfair for you to make this assumption in bad faith. Look at how they talk about hypergamy. They hate and despise it. Basically treat it as a flaw. Men HATE women and their sexuality. Me, and every m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:16 PM
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Female sexuality is controlled by males in most primates and mammals, no? ?? Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:54 PM
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At this point I think it's "looking like a girl" and "not being a bitch". I'm pretty sure no one thinks femininity is trust or humility, or anything else associated with women who is a falsehood. I literally linked to the main RP sub where TRPillers say exactly this. That doesn't really track. When I dated "females" I tended to do it for their sexuality, but then, I'm a weird guy. Men DESPISE female sexuality and women in general. They are literally obsessed with controlling female sexuality, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:53 PM
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Hard disagree. There were subtle changes that made movie Ron look worse than he was in the books. https://hillnerd.tumblr.com/post/187266558282/hello-hillnerd-ive-read-more-than-one-of-your
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 10:01 AM
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He was portrayed as a wise and competent person, so I don't see how he was a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:12 AM
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Rom coms aimed at women are fundamentally different than rom coms aimed at men. 500 days of summer is for men, The Ugly Truth is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:37 PM
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False, there are many aimed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:29 PM
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The "just be nice" thing is a form of advice given for all aspects of life, not just about dating. People say "just be nice and things will go well for you", "this bad person will be punished by karma" etc. This is not about misleading men when it comes to dating, this is just what people say. What else did you expect? People telling you to be a bad person to get ahead?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:23 PM
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There are many instances where the movies made Ron look worse than he was in the books. Here's a good read. https://hillnerd.tumblr.com/post/187266558282/hello-hillnerd-ive-read-more-than-one-of-your https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-Harry-Potter-fans-claim-that-the-movies-ruined-Ron-Weasley/answer/Vivian-Onim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:58 PM
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??? Most rom coms for female audiences feature male love interests that are confident and successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:46 PM
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How is it true? Which woman said that she wants some loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:40 PM
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?? All the movies where the simp gets the hot woman are made by men for men. I literally can't think of a single movie like this that's aimed towards a female audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:36 PM
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I literally see them blaming women for "misleading" them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:53 PM
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Never changing your principles even when you see they don't work is nothing but retarded fanaticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:22 PM
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Rolo implied that women should be assaulted that way for their "duplicity" in hiding their hypergamy. He's literally using the case of a woman who changed her mind about something during the corona crisis, to rant about how this is hypergamy and imply that women should be assaulted over it. That's what I'm discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:13 PM
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He's suggesting we should do it to women for their "duplicity" whatever that means. Did you even read his tweet? Nothing to do with ww2, just with his revenge fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:10 PM
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I am discussing Rollo's views, he's the one who said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:08 PM
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I'm only telling you the truth dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:33 PM
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That logic is literally retarded. You can't destroy a country over principles. If something just doesn't work, you get rid of it. Even the communist countries started changing things once they realized they had messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:32 PM
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Then I hope you're comfortable with collaborating with and promoting literal fascists and neoreactionary lunatics. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:31 PM
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Forcefully shaving someone is assault, even according to the law. What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:29 PM
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Not changing your priorities in a time of crisis because of "principles" is retarded. Like, I'm normally against quarantines. However, I am in favor of quarantines when there is a deadly pandemic that is threatening to collapse the country. It only makes sense. What else do you want? Put millions of people's lives at risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:27 PM
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First of all, stats show that you are actually LESS likely to divorce if you marry at an older age. Second of all, what? It makes perfect sense to marry someone with different qualities than the one you want to party with. Imagine creating a family with some party loser. This is literally how you get deadbeat dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:25 PM
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Shaving someone's head is assault. Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:20 PM
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https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1241551143966142464 That seems like suggesting violence to me. He's implying that women should be assaulted for their duplicity in hiding their hypergamy....which is somehow connected to changing your priorities during the corona crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:13 PM
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It's Rollo who suggests violence and since he's so important in TRP, it makes sense to discuss his views.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:10 PM
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Do you change your priorities from hooking up to wanting a relationship, because you hit certain age and you see there are very few people avaliable ? Then you are a piece of shit. First of all, why are you a piece of shit if you change what you want in a relationship as you age? It makes no sense to make a blanket statement like that. Second of all, Rollo implies that changing our priorities because of the corona crisis is hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:09 PM
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Nobody can "provide for themselves". We live in a society because we need each other. What else do you want the government to do during a pandemic? Ignore it? Let people die just so that we don't "change our ways"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:07 PM
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After my last post was removed for tone policing reasons, I reworded it to make it as civil and polite as possible. Hopefully, the mods won't remove it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:52 PM
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No problem with me. Discuss the connection between feminism and communism all you like. Just don't pretend that TRP is not hand-in-hand with fascists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:46 PM
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Sure, lets just ignore the obvious connections between TRP and the alt-right. Nothing to see here folks. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:40 PM
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You realize that Heartiste Chataeu, a blog that was considered the core of TRP, was literally promoting white nationalism, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:31 PM
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This is the discussion starter. RT is an important RP personality. Many Red Pillers treat him as a representative of the community. Why shouldn't we analyze and discuss his views?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:20 PM
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I didn't insult anyone. I was literally punished for tone polishing reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:16 PM
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My thread got removed for "tone" reasons. And I was banned from here in the past for debating too strongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:11 PM
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Everything I said is totally true. This sub tolerates literal fascist propaganda as long as the "tone" isn't threatening. But very well, I will remove that part of the post. Restore my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:09 PM
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This sub is a joke. There are people here LITERALLY promoting fascism. But they are left unchecked because their "tone" isn't threatening. Meanwhile, many people who question the fascist elements in TRP community get removed because they argue "too passionately". Ridiculous tone policing. No wonder this sub is like 80% Red Pillers, 19% "almost" Red Pillers and only 1% non-Red Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:07 PM
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What can I do to actually discuss the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:04 PM
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They were shamed because men tried to control women's bodies. Nothing about it proves that this was a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:52 PM
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You. Are. Not. Entitled. To. Women. If you offer nothing of value, why should a woman be with you? Hypergamy is perfectly rational and it's not women's fault if useless men cannot find a woman. If men don't like it they can stop working or whatever, who cares. We will only bring in immigrants who actually want to work and soon robots will replace most male jobs anyway. Male entitlement knows no bounds. There is 0 reason for a women to stay with you if you are not valuable. Either accept it or do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:50 PM
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No clue. I think he means to imply that changing your priorities in a time of crisis is "Hypergamy", instead of just "the rational thing to do".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:30 PM
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Citation needed. Oh, and your alt right blog is not a proper source. Give real sources or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:25 PM
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The point is that the healthcare system literally cannot handle so many sick people. Look at what happens in Italy, they literally don't even have the equipment to treat so many ill. fatality rate for healthy individuals is nearly zero percent and the only people that should really be worried are the elderly who already have had preexisting conditions. So? Elderly people are still people. The flu is more dangerous (as is the swine flu) and China has already reported that there hasn’t been any ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:24 PM
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Citation fucking needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:19 PM
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If men don't want to be treated like that then they shouldn't chase women, plain and simple. If you don't like it , stay away. You're not entitled to women's bodies while you offer nothing to them. Aaaand you're still entirely out of topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:18 PM
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You're making no sense. Why shouldn't women "return to hypergamy"? Hypergamy is a good thing that has helped our species. What does this even have to do with the topic at hand which is about the way to combat corona. Do you even have a coherent point to make? I swear Red Pillers are spouting nothing but sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:08 PM
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Corona kills more men than women according to stats, so a quarantine would benefit men MORE. You have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:04 PM
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He is actually insane. Like there are cases where multiple males say something and then when a woman says it , he singles her out to "prove" a theory of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 12:02 PM
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To abandon one’s entire belief system because of one MINOR bad time is stupid and shows that women should not be trusted. Entire countries are on lockdown all over the world and you think this is a "minor" bad time? My gawd, libertarians are more retarded than even fascists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 11:53 AM
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Why would I care about men having standards? That's up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:51 AM
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The problems you described always existed more or less. You're being delusional if you think poverty and divisions are new.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:21 AM
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Why should it be deleted? I made clear and precise arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:16 AM
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How is it fucking everything up? Society is better that ever. If anything, it is men that fuck the world up, every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:10 AM
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The point is not that average men cannot be in relationships. The point is that women would be in the right to reject the average male. This sub complains about women having standards all the time. This is the response to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:04 AM
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Men refuse to seek medical help for their problems. There are multiple studies about this phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:50 AM
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My whole point was that single men obviously have worse outcomes in life than single women. I don't care about emotionalisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:43 AM
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I have seen single men in their 50s being even worse. Why do you even think most homeless people are single men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:36 AM
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This sub is filled with posts complaining about women having sexual freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:32 AM
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It's talking about a hypothetical. I didn't say that the average male can't be in a relationship. I said that women would be in the right if they wanted to reject the average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:32 AM
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It's the other way around. The average male completely overestimates what he brings to the table, so women are right to reject average men. Many men have nothing to offer to the modern woman. Sorry, that's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:01 AM
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How is it a false argument? This is literally what TRPillers promote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 12:53 AM
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Irrelevant since infanticide has been a relatively common thing in MOST societies. In ancient Rome for example they would regularly kill unwanted babies. https://www.livescience.com/42834-ancient-roman-infanticide.html
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:34 PM
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Why do you even promote Putnam's work when he outright stated that he is not against diversity. https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted/30357 You people literally have no evidence to support your claims. You claim a country needs to be patriarchal to be protected , yet if you look at actual patriarchal countries, like Iraq and Iran, they're actually a total laughing stock. Trans people have a conditions named gender dysphoria, them transitioning has…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:12 PM
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Heartiste Chataeu used to be an outright white nationalist site and it was promoted by Red Pillers. TRP has obvious alt-right links.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:09 PM
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It was men who caused this mess in the first place. Who are the inventors, the businessmen, the factory owners? Overwhelmingly male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:28 AM
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How will they "die out" if population simply declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:25 AM
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The birth rates are slowly declining in all countries, even in Islamist ones. It's only a matter of time before such countries have similar birth rates to the West. Lets face it, having many children is just not useful or productive anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:19 AM
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Population cannot be expanding endlessly. I say it's a good thing to have some population control, especially now with climate change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:15 AM
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Gender quotas in work have made companies sacrifice quality for the sake of diversity. Nonsense. If anything there is evidence that diversity is good for business. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/04/business-case-for-diversity-in-the-workplace/ Emasculated men due to fear of being called chauvinist or a harasser. If you mean that men are not allowed to harass and grope random women anymore, then yes, fuck that. Feminization of men which leads to an overall weaker population that won't be abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:13 AM
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Most Red Pillers seem to be, if not outright pro-Hitler, then at least fond of him. They think that he wanted to "save us" from degeneracy/feminism. I have seen a shocking amount of actual Nazi stuff in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:53 AM
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All of those are literally upholded by (mostly male) conservatives. You will never see a feminist supporting these positions. So I guess now you now who are the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:11 PM
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That's the reality that men live under. What patriarchal responsibilities are you living under? Name them and I will explain them to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:43 PM
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So? TRPillers/manospherians promote such theories all the time and we're supposed to ignore them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:18 PM
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And where is the proof of that? Western society is probably more peaceful than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:15 PM
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There was literally someone in Tomassi's stream being a total weeb. But sure, keep saying that there is no connection between TRP and weebs...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:28 PM
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I refuse to tolerate sexual harassment and mistreatment. If you like being sexually harassed and groped by strangers, that's your prerogative, but don't expect any respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:46 PM
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Okay, weirdo, but don't be surprised if you receive 0 respect, hmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:37 PM
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Feminists are completely right. Sexual harassment is rampant. Whiny men are annoyed by twitter feminists more than they're annoyed by ACTUAL SEXUAL VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN. It disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 12:15 PM
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A little off topic but I think Korea and Japan really needs feminism. There are lots of discrimination, harassment, prejudice just because you are a woman. And It affects the women's behavior towards men as well. Makes women act bitter, shallow, defensive and rejective against men. So feminism in those countries will benefit both men and women in the long term. No, you don't get it. TRPillers believe that women should just accept the harassment passively and never complain about it. I wish it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 12:14 PM
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And I suppose you think that is a good thing, fuck women with glasses, amirite? Anyway, things are changing now. Feminism is becoming increasingly popular there. Time's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:57 AM
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You missed the whole point of the post. I don't care if white men go to Asia to take advantage of all the benefits that come with being white. I just think that these weebs often paint a misleading picture of Asia. They portray it as some patriarchal paradise for men, when in reality they're among the most "cucked" nations in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:44 AM
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I've problem with women trying to make men bury themselves to raise women above them, which is what western feminism is often about. Yea, maybe in your dreams. If anything, feminists are too nice and don't go far enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:21 AM
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You guys have a problem with women standing up for themselves, don't you? Like, Korea had a huge problem with sexual harassment, but I saw 0 outrage about this from Red Pill dudes. Instead, they got angry when women started grouping up to protest it. You just want women to be doormats and passively accept the mistreatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:15 AM
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Sexism and sexual harassment are rampant in East Asia. Do you have a problem with women standing up for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:07 AM
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Lets be honest, these white dudes find success because they're white. It has been well-documented that some East Asian women have a fetish for white men. Even ugly and retarded men have found success in Asia. However, that is not the point of the post. The point of the post is that Asia is not the patriarchal paradise some are making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:07 AM
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I think that, in most cases, men fall in love more easily. That is because men need women more than women need men in general. Many men are emotionally stunted and lost without a female presence, so it makes sense that they fall in love easily. They want a woman to save them from themselves. This is further proof that men tend to gain more from relationships than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:24 AM
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I actually agree. This is further proof that men need women more than women need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:21 AM
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Alimony: Men wanted women to stay at home, but apparently they don't really appreciate the work that their stay at home wives do, so they don't believe that they deserve to be compensated for staying at home when they could be building their own careers. It seems men just want to be free to abandon their stay at home wives and pay them nothing, leaving them to be in poverty. Maternity leave: I am all for paternity leave to exist too , provided that men actually stay to raise their kids. However,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:20 AM
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Lol. Of course men care about intelligence when it comes to serious relationship/marriage. If you have a child with stupid woman, your child will be stupid. Stupid children most likely end up being criminal/poor. No man wants that. Sorry, bu studies state otherwise. Men don't want an intelligent woman. Why would a man want to protect random women that he doesn't even know? Common sense, even you probably don't care if random boy gets bullied by ramdom people. Meanwhile men do care and protect th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:05 PM
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Men like the idea of owning women.It's part the ideal "male identity". Men can't really own prostitutes, so they prefer to have a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:02 PM
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You know what. I don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:44 PM
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At least you're honest. Many men won't admit it that this is how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:29 PM
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You miss the point. I posted that study to show that men don't know what they want. That study says that men THINK they want smart women, but they don't. Similarly, men think they want women with a personality , but they don't. Men have a deep-rooted hatred towards literally everything that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 12:21 PM
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No, FDS is generally against sleeping with fuck boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:17 AM
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Men literally want women to have as little personality as possible. Deep down they dislike women who have their own opinions. Many men won't admit it , but the less a woman speaks, the better. Just look at this study. Men only think that they want intelligent women, but in reality, they don't. It's obvious that men don't really know what they want. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167215599749?etoc= https://www.thecut.com/2015/10/men-intimidated-by-smart-women.html Men only care …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:16 AM
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, FDS is female solipsism on steroids. E.g. it advices its adhering land-whales to have sex with good-looking men without expecting commitment in return. This is the opposite of what FDS is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:02 AM
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Don't even bother. This place is an echo chamber where men genuinely believe that almost all sexual harassment is just women falsely accusing white men. Rape according to them is only repugnant when it's committed by Muslims, because they're the "other men" that TRPillers view as competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:00 AM
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Maybe people hate TRP because they continually make outrageous claims and backtrack when called out, because they have obvious connections to neoreactionaryism and the alt-right and because they sometimes outright lie under the disguise of "It's just heuristics bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:56 AM
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No, they don't. They look down on feminine women and like women who are into video games and cars. (but only as long as those "masculine" women don't challenge them)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:50 PM
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No, in my experience men show deep hostility towards literally everything that women do. They even have contempt for "traditionalist" women deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:31 PM
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Literally everything they say is only a half-truth AT BEST. If you listen to TRP an internalize it, you would think that women are more narcissistic than men, more likely to cheat etc. Statistics show that the opposite happens. It is men who are more selfish and narcissistic and it is men who are more likely to cheat. Here's a list of some misleading TRP claims. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ekus5z/debunking_some_of_the_halftruths_that_trpthe/ TRP is an echo chamber, plain a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:28 PM
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Yes, it is. Men hate women/femininity, so a woman that pretends to be a "not like the other girls" type gains a lot of attention. This is also the strategy that RPW promote. Their strategy is to be "the good girls" and not like those feminists/harlots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:23 PM
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It's fine with me. I want predatory men to stay away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:30 AM
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I would be happy if most men went hard MGTOW and stayed away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:31 PM
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I don't care as long as predatory men stay away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:01 PM
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I learned that I gain nothing by defending the male gender as they don't want to help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:53 PM
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Women are objectively better people by every measurable standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:48 PM
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If I was seeing someone donate a lot of resources I would be suspicious they are the ones who are not so good themselves. Mental gymnastics much?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:36 PM
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30 years old and debunked. The next source references this one. It's not debunked at all, you ignore the other sources listed in the article. This article says nothing about outcomes and benefits of marriage; only about desire to remarry Yes, and that was my whole point. Men are more likely to want to remarry, so they probably enjoy marriage more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:41 PM
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And where's your evidence that women are more likely to use manipulation to ruin lives? Some of the biggest manipulators I know are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:29 PM
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Yea, I don't buy it at all. Men are more likely to be manipulative and malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:22 PM
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More men than women voted for Drumph.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:25 PM
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What evils do women commit that rival male cruelty? They dared to not sleep with an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:11 PM
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If TRP has no problem generalizing women, why are they so bothered by tongue in cheek generalizations about men? Why are men so fragile?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:10 PM
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Women are solipstic though and have difficulty being future time oriented when it matters. As in when they are young and their eggs haven't started to sour. I don't like your usurping the term evil here. Evil is for actions not for having less empathy. Women are not more solispistic than men. If anything, men are more likely to lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:05 PM
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Do you deny that evil is overwhelmingly committed by men all around the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:02 PM
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They promote the idea that marriage benefits women more than men despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Men gain more from getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:36 PM
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Nice try. Society has been looking down on "feminine interests" for a long time. Masculinity is basically worshiped. Lmao if you think that men are truly punished for being "too masculine". If anything, the opposite happens. Men are being punished for not being masculine enough. We're currently living in a society that hero worships masculine traits and sets them up as the ideal. Women are repeatedly encouraged to act more like men if they want to succeed. Heck, Margaret Thatcher literally had l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:42 PM
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FDS is for women who are tired of lowering their standards and dating losers, deadbeats, morons, abusers etc. It's about encouraging women to have confidence in themselves.Society teaches women that they're defective men, FDS exists to tell them that they're fine the way they are and that having standards is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:29 PM
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, female perpetrators of homicide are too more likely to murder men than they are other women. This makes perfect sense. Women "murder" mostly in self-defense . https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/11/25/80-of-russias-female-murder-convicts-acted-in-self-defense-study-a68297 And again, you're completely wrong. This is a claim you've repeatedly stated but refused to provide evidence for. As far as I'm aware, it's your own pure conjecture created to demonise men as much as you possibly can. They ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:45 AM
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Honestly, I think you're projecting. It's mostly single men that suffer from solitude, not single women. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/older-men-more-likely-to-feel-lonely-than-women-living-alone-study-958765.html https://www.vas.org.uk/research-shows-men-are-more-lonely-than-women/ This makes perfect sense as men don't even know how to build intimate friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:20 AM
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Again, men protect their "own women" because it's a matter of male pride. They view women as possessions. The same men would gladly rape the women of another tribe under the right circumstances. And I don't care if men would throw other men under the bus. It's well-known that men view other men as competition. That's their own problem. The biggest danger towards men is other men after all. You don't see women going around murdering men. It's almost always MEN murdering women and other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:17 AM
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They won't rely on men financially anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:15 AM
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I don't care. I'm done with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:40 AM
0

If you think about all of the women who don't work, then the gender wage gap is significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:45 AM
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It's absolutely true. Women tend to offer more in relationships than men do. What do men bring to the table again? Emotional connection? Hah, most men are emotionally retarded and actually use women as their personal therapist. Sex? No. Heterosexual men receive way more pleasure than women. Research shows that heterosexual men are the group MOST likely to have an orgasm, surpassing even the gays. Heterosexual women are the group LEAST likely to have an orgasm. Attractiveness. Forget it. Many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:37 AM
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The things I say are based on my experiences so yea I have dated quite a bit. I was actually shocked by how terrible most men are. I used to think they were better than that. It's possible that your girlfriend dates you because you're in the minority of men that aren't awful. Either that or she has been brainwashed into believing that she needs men, like it unfortunately happens to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:32 AM
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It's simple. Men realized that women would want nothing to do with a good majority of them, because most men are frankly either abusive or rapey or manipulative or lazy or emotionally retarded or disgusting or a combination of the things above, so men decided to actively exclude women from high paying professions. Men built a whole ideology about how they're superior and power should belong to them. But in reality it was nothing but a trick in order to force and coerce women to say with low valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:25 AM
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Women bring value by their mere existence. If you don't like it then blame men, they're the ones who assign value to it. Men are generally happy by merely being in a woman's company and tend to be like lost dogs without a woman around. There are many studies that show that men don't even go to the doctor for their medical problems if left to their own devices, no wonder single men die early. Women on the other hand, don't need men. In fact men act parasitically on women. The only reason why wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:14 AM
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Absolutely. But unlike TRP, I believe the 80/20 rule is rational and justified. Most men suck and have nothing to offer to women. The sooner women realize this the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:44 AM
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More women will realize that a great majority of men are nothing but a burden to them. More women will choose to stay away from men/relationships and maybe pursue only a minority of men that is worthy. It's already happening. Even our East Asian sisters are waking up. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-01/nomarriage-movement-south-korea-women-reject-marriage-kids/11367488 Women should realize that men want women to be their mommy while offering nothing in return. Women in general need men less …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:37 AM
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Women are objectively better beings than men. The so called false rape accusations are dwarfed by the cases of actual rape committed by men. There are multiple studies that show that women are more empathetic, more generous than men. https://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2017/female-brain-and-prosocial-behavior.html https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/49953/1/49953-01.pdf https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-07459-008 Remember the manosphere meme about how female teachers "rape" male students? Well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:28 AM
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Men protecting women doesn't mean they don't hate them. Men protect "their own women", the women of their own tribe. The same men would happily rape and brutalize the women of another tribe, as we see in various wars throughout history. Men protect their own women because they view them as possessions. It's related to "male honor" and all that bullshit. They don't actually care about women as people. In fact, men tend to have an irrational hostility towards everything that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:23 PM
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I don't share the American culture of pedohysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:19 PM
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It's actually Americans that are obsessed with age. Americans think teenagers are literal children. Say what you like about Europe, but I always felt that Europeans are way more chill about big age differences in dating. 15 years olds dating 18 years olds is common practice in Europe while Americans think it's pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:14 PM
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I don't want to ever get married. 99% of marriages are women having to be the man's mommy. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:05 AM
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The reality is that nobody cares about MGTOW, which is why the MGTOW sub is not put on a quarantine despite being on of the most toxic subs on reddit. If anything, it is beneficial for women that creeps stay away from them. TRP sub on the other hand is quarantined because it encourages predatory behavior. I believe that TRP sub should be banned for encouraging rape culture and all Red Pillers should be encouraged to go hard MGTOW mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:02 AM
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False. Men benefit way more from companionship. Unlike men who don't have proper friendships, women are perfectly content with their female friends. It is actually men who need female company and rely on it, which is why older, single men suffer from loneliness more than women. https://www.vas.org.uk/research-shows-men-are-more-lonely-than-women/ https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/older-men-more-likely-to-feel-lonely-than-women-living-alone-study-958765.html https://www.theglobea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 10:02 AM
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Tell me one thing that the average male can offer to women and I will refute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:51 AM
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Most men literally have nothing to offer to women which is why dating/sex is on decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:09 AM
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What do my hobbies have to do with this discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:37 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-it-women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 09:14 PM
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And women only want men for their resources. Which makes perfect sense because most men have nothing else to offer to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:24 PM
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Yes, men want women more than women want men. It's pure delusion to say otherwise. Look around you, it's always MEN that do stuff to impress women. It's always MEN that are desperate enough to chase women. You don't often see women chasing men. Single men also have worse outcomes in life than single women, and yes that included never married men. Men like women more than women like men. And it makes perfect sense. There's nothing to like about men as they're generally abominable creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:31 PM
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Wrong. Men have worse outcomes in life if they're not in a relationship. Men need relationships more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:29 PM
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Many women quit their jobs to raise some man's kids. If they never married in the first place, they would probably have been BETTER OFF financially than marrying and then divorcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:28 PM
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Most women would have been better off if they never married at all. Various studies show that marriage is a better deal for men than for women. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-it-women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:05 PM
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They generally significantly overestimate what men bring to the table. No wonder women divorce so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:44 AM
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Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:22 AM
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The point is that women were worse off post-divorce than they were pre-divorce. Women post-divorce had a higher risk of poverty. Them divorcing for money makes no sense since they would be better off financially if they stayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:15 AM
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I am 100% with you on this one. Did you somehow miss the point of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:49 AM
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I mean literally the richest women.Look at the Forbes list of richest women it's mostly divorcees and inheritors. Oh, so you mean the 0,01% of the population. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:38 AM
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The richest women of the world became that way because of divorce. Rich people are LESS likely to divorce and have more stable marriages. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-marriage-divide-how-and-why-working-class-families-are-more-fragile-today The fact that they can't reach up to the money the household had despite that ,is irrelevant. How? If they just wanted money, they would have been better off staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:30 AM
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All marvel movies are shit. CM definitely received a disproportionate amount of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:33 PM
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Men like women as an ideal, a "prize". Their dream is proving themselves so that they can "own" a woman. They don't actually care about such woman's personality, in fact, the LESS she talks, the better. They look down on feminine women. They hate masculine women because they "challenge" them. They hate slutty women but also complain when women don't put out. They are biased against women's hobbies and interests and always look down on things that are "for women". Just look at the disproportionat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:07 PM
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You confuse loving the ideal of women with loving actual women as people. Men don't view women as human, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:42 PM
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Nonsense. Men only like the "ideal" of owning women. They hate actual women and view them as prizes and possessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:41 PM
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I am convinced that men have a deep (and sometimes unconscious) hatred for literally everything that women do. They event resent women who do sexual things to then as proven by the demonization of sluts. Men hate women for who they are and only view women as possessions. And before someone says "but men protect women hurr durr", they only protect "their own women" who they view as possessions and they're the type of people who would rape foreign women under certain circumstances. It's why fascis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:31 AM
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Men hate everything that women do, so it should not surprise anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:36 AM
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WOMEN ARE MORE AGREEABLE THAN MEN. Men often pressure women into sex and women give in even when they don't want to. It's a common phenomenon. I am not saying it's literal rape, but men should learn to not pressure women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:34 AM
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Well, in general most men suck irl too. However, t's worse in OLD because appearance is everything there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:51 AM
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Many men don't do even the bare minimum to take care of their appearance. On the other hand, women make great efforts to look good. This leads men looking like shit in photographs so they do badly in online dating. Meanwhile, they're delusional enough to overestimate their attractiveness. There was literally a study a while ago that said that men overestimate their own attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:04 AM
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I didn't say it was rape, but it's a fact that many women have sex because they feel pressured to do so. Women are higher in agreeableness than men so they're less likely to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:44 PM
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Yes and why do women work less hours and in different jobs? Surely it cannot be because they're excluded from certain professions and are expected to spend more time with their kids, while the men can just totally ignore their kids and nobody would say anything? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:40 PM
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Women like sex, it is the men that are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:25 PM
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Divorced women usually end up poorer than when they were married. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/ Also, I maintain that most tradcon marriages are in rural and low income areas. I don't consider wealthy, liberal couples where the woman stays at home to be traditionalist, because that's not traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:46 PM
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Nice try. TRP used to promote Heartiste Chataeu in the sidebar. Heartiste Chataeu was an explicitly white nationalist blog. TRP has had strong links to the neoreactionary movement from the start. It's not even some big secret. Various RP big shots are openly neoreactionary or even white nationalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:43 PM
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Sex is not a one-way transaction, both men and women get the enjoyment. False. In many cases, women are pressured into sex. As we all know women are higher in agreeableness than men, so they give in despite their own wishes. In fact, if women started having sex only for their own pleasure, the amount of sex would fall by at least 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:18 PM
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The idea that divorce is always financially beneficial to women is RP nonsense. In reality, in most cases, women end up being poorer post-divorce than they were when they were married. Many of these traditionalist marriages are in rural and low income areas where divorce will most certainly mean poverty for women. This is why they stay in marriages and this is why they tolerate the disgusting advances of their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:11 PM
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Women have no agency and cannot choose to not marry men who hold traditional views? "Free will" is mostly a lie. If you're brainwashed since birth to be a certain way, you will most likely be that way. So women are prostitutes who hate their husbands? The have no other choice as long as the gender pay gap exists. When women gain equal social and economic power to men, we will not be seeing that bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 02:36 PM
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FDS is mostly a satire sub with only a couple of serious posts here and there. TRP is neoreactionary sub with explicit links to white nationalism. The fact that people equate the two is getting ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:24 PM
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In traditionalist marriages, men hold more power so women feel obligated to have sex even when they don't want to. It has to do with coercion and the power imbalance, not with women's desires. It is well-known that traditionally, women were encouraged to do their wifely duty even if they didn't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:21 PM
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I refuse to associate myself with a subreddit that promotes literal white nationalist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:51 PM
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If the truth is sexist, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:03 PM
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It's because most men literally have nothing to offer to women except their wallet. If you don't take her on a good date, why exactly should she go out with you? Lets face it, most men are ugly and uninteresting. Women do them a favor by going out with them and men should be pleased since there is clear evidence that men prefer female company more than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:49 PM
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Why do women keep lining up for marriage then? Is it all about having children and fitting in socially? Is it a all that she wants is another baby thing? a) They're brainwashed by society, b) because of the gender wage gap, women have a harder time being independent. I don't know about this, I see men cheat on/leave their girlfriends because they met a girl who was more interesting. Not just because she was hotter or had a bigger set or tits or even that he wanted some strange. He wanted to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:04 AM
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No. Men hate both masculine and feminine women. They look down on femininity like all the time. Literally all the time. However, they also dislike it when a woman acts masculine because a masculine woman is not afraid to call them out on their bullshit. Men have a deep hostility towards anything that women do. Anything. I see it all the time. They only love women as some ideal or prize. They view women as their possessions which is why they are obsessed with protecting "their own women" but woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:37 AM
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Sorry,, I don't consider 25 years old women having consensual sex with 16 years olds to be "rape". Male and female sexuality are different. Women cannot rape and most cases of female rape have to do with consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 11:18 PM
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LTRs are not bad for men. This is just the way MGTOWs try to rationalize their bachelorhood. Most men are actually like lost dogs with women. They literally don't even go to the doctor if left to their own devices, which is why they die early. There are many studies that show that married men are happier, wealthier and healthier than single men. (the same is not true with married women vs. single women) There are also many studies that show that men refuse to go to the doctor if they're not enco…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:35 PM
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Men are definitely more likely to be narcissists and there are studies about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:25 PM
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Strawman. It's actually a part of the patriarchy for women to receive lenient sentences and it is like that is many "traditionalist" societies. Also, the crimes committed by women are usually radically different than the crimes committed by men. For example, most female murders are done in self-defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 08:48 PM
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Yea, I have seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 08:06 PM
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https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1173285890887581696 Read these tweets. He thinks that women should view male contraception as a "threat to women's power". Meanwhile, women can't wait to not have to carry the responsibility of birth control on their own. The guy is delusional and always completely misunderstands women's motivations. Also, if you look at his most recent tweets, it looks like he is fascinated by Islam because they keep women in check. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:20 PM
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There was one study I remember seeing summarized, with a very small population sample, that indicated 30%. That seems really high. From what I remember, this was among men who chose to take the paternity test. Sounds like a biased sample since if you want to take the paternity test, it is most likely because you're already suspicious of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:51 PM
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They are in denial. Just like how they focus on female teachers having sex with students but when you look at the actual statistics , it's actually more likely for male teachers to rape. They're in complete denial and refuse to acknowledge the evils committed by men all across the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:49 PM
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People really believe this meme that around 50% or something of men unknowingly raise kids that aren't theirs? Lmao. It reminds me of when Rollo Tomassi was surprised that women are not working against the male birth control pill. Lmao, that guy doesn't understand women at all. Women would LOVE to have the men take birth control pills instead of having to do it on their own. TRP is clown world. It is men that are usually forceful, coercive and manipulative. There are literal studies that show th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:18 PM
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They keep the women because they want to use them for sex/reproduction, not because they care about them. The men are killed because they're perceived as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:23 AM
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The fact that you're equating FDS with TRP is dumb. TRP is connected to actual fascist blogs. They used to promote Heartiste Chataeu which was explicitly white nationalist. FDS on the other hand is just women poking fun at TRP. Sorry, but if you seriously think TRP and FDS are "the same", then you'r misinformed. FDS is mostly satire. TRP is promoting neoreactionary and fascist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:12 AM
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Dude. ​ You're defending TRP which has the grossest generalizations about women. ​ You're just a sensitive hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:03 AM
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I'm in favor of women being in control of their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:27 PM
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My generalization is something analogous to AWALT. AMALT. All men would rape under certain circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:25 PM
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Why would women build lasting relationships with men? Honestly, historically men literally FORCED women to build relationships with them. Women naturally prefer the top 20% of men. (and for good reason, most men suck) The other 80% was dissatisfied and they creased forced monogamy and the patriarchy is order to control women's sexuality. Not nature itself? Hurricanes?, diseases?, risky childbirths? Women would find a way to protect themselves from nature. Men are the bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:01 PM
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Men don't love women. They view women as possessions. In fact I would argue that men hate women for who they really are. They only like the idea of women. (and men's idea of women is an eternally loyal possession that never questions them)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:42 PM
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Again, you moved to goalposts from “women had to agree to be war brides in order to not starve” to “women were taken as slaves. I didn't move the goal posts. Both of these situations existed depending on the case. And men who weren’t killed were also enslaved. But a lot of men were just killed. I would rather be a woman, thank you very much. Why should I care about the men? We're talking about women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:40 PM
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Of course women don't care. And why should they? Men are the biggest threat to women after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:37 PM
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Historically, when slavery was still a thing, many women of the conquered lands became slaves. You're seriously naive if you don't recognize the abuses that these women suffered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:20 PM
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TRP says worse about women, yet I don't see you outraged about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:14 PM
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You have a naive view of what it is like to be a war bride. In many situations the so called war brides were basically slaves. Also, I would like to see what you would do in a situation where you would likely starve to death or get violated by invaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:11 PM
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You have a problem with free speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:01 PM
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TRPillers are promoting literal fascist propaganda and you're bothered by "muh misandry"? ​ Don't make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:00 PM
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Why do these "not all" comments not show up so much whenever red pillers make vast generalizations about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:55 PM
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not all men would rape How do you know that? For many, violence is a turn off Because they have been conditioned by society to think this way. Violence is a core part of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:54 PM
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Men actively discourage women from "proving themselves" in many ways. Men set up all sort of barriers for women, sometimes without even realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:53 PM
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A couple of cherry picked examples don't disprove what I'm saying. And radical Islam is just what peak masculinity looks like. It's inherently a masculine religion that's why it is like this. The point is that I think all men would act like this under certain conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:52 PM
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Are you trying to say that the patriarchy doesn't exist? I recommend reading a book by actual academics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:06 PM
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You won't see American troops going around and raping women in Afghanistan. I don't know about Afghanistan but the US army has definitely been accused of rape in the past. https://theconversation.com/my-lai-50-years-after-american-soldiers-shocking-crimes-must-be-remembered-93516
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:45 PM
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Are you going to give the same benefit of the doubt to some Muslim man accused of raping a white woman? I somehow doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:34 PM
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Then you haven't been in traditionalist societies. "Male honor" is a big thing there. Men literally murder other men for having extramarital sex with their sister and "dishonoring" her. (of course, this is male projection since it is the man who felt this as an assault on his honor) Of course such extreme cases have mostly disappeared in western, urban places, but the mentality is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:33 PM
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The far-right gets outraged whenever a black man is accused of rape, but they usually assume that every white man accused of rape was "falsely accused". (see Kavanaugh) I'm sure it is just a coincidence, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:30 PM
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It doesn't really matter if you consciously "think" about it. My argument is that men would rape under certain circumstances. Wartime rape has been quite common throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:23 PM
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Being a far-righter, hating immigrants, having disdain for darker skin tone and associating it with rape - is not a disease affecting only males. What truly fuels and unites anti-immigration rhetoric is misandry. No-one is worried about female foreigners, despite them also being involved in drug trade, crime, and terrorism. But they're cuter, so no-one cares. The far right is DOMINATED by men. Statistics don't lie. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/17/why-is-the-far-right-domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:19 PM
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I think that all men would rape if they believed they could get away with it. The fact that you think you wouldn't rape is because society has tried to beat the rape out of you. It only makes sense. If women evolved to be war brides then men evolved to be rapists. After all, someone did all the rape and pillaging that turned women into war brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:11 PM
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They certainly weren't considered dishonored if they were raped by their own husbands since marital rape was not recognized. They were only dishonored if they were raped by some "other" man because this insulted male sensitivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:10 PM
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That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:09 PM
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Women understand honor, but not "male honor" which is a category of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:07 PM
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Back in the days of the patriarchy, men used to view women as literal property. I believe the desire to protect their own women is connected to this sense of ownership. Some "other" man assaulting someone's woman was viewed as a personal insult, but it was mostly acceptable for a man to treat "his own woman" like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:06 PM
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A foreign man raping their own women is the ultimate assault on their honor. This is why back in the day they used to say that a raped women was "dishonored". (in reality this was a projection on the men's part, since it is men who are obsessed with honor)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 04:02 PM
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I think it is connected to male honor. It's an important part of the male identity to protect "their own women".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 03:57 PM
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This is not an argument or a refutation of anything I have written.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 03:45 PM
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The biggest threat to women's safety is other men. Most of the "protection" from men is against the unwanted advances of other men or against male violence in general. So in general, men are the problem. Men just cause pain and suffering to women. Also, male protection happens because men view "their own women" as a possession. The same men would happily rape the women of another tribe/nation. This is what men have always done and I believe that rape is written in their DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 03:25 PM
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No, it's PPD that led me down this path.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:33 AM
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Some people here might remember me, I have been around for ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:01 AM
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Yes, I used to be a self-hating woman that thought that women should sacrifice their well-being to appease men/society. Now I realized that women gain nothing by trying to appease men as most men have absolutely nothing to offer to women, except maybe a headache and self-esteem issues. This sub, along with my personal experiences, helped me realize that men don't deserve anything and their entitlement is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 11:13 PM
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This. Besides why shouldn't women go for the "best" men. Most men suck anyway and only a minority has something to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 06:33 PM
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In reality there is 0 hard evidence that it's caused by biology, but even if only women are hypergamous, that's a good thing. Why shouldn't women only want the best? Most men have nothing to offer to women anyway. TRPillers paint hypergamy in a negative light because they have a male bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 06:22 PM
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No they don't. It is men who bully other men over their masculinity, women don't give a damn. Some women actually prefer men who are a little effeminate, just look t the popularity of kpop or Harry Styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 06:25 AM
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It's what TRP says too. The whole "alpha" and "beta" thing has to do with men's personalities. Of course, TRPillers are still delusional, but they're right that women care about personality more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 11:32 PM
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Have you seen any movie from the 90s/early 00s? Sexual objectification of women was the norm. Cry me a river.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:16 PM
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Men actively look down on femininity, there are many examples of that. And femininity has nothing to do with being silent, this is just what men prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:12 PM
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All porn is "problematic". The whole concern trolling about how erotica glorifies toxic relationships is the same unfounded nonsense as the concern trolling around video games causing school shootings. Things like 50 shades and Twilight received a disproportionate amount of hatred because they were for women. There are many bad movies around, yet none of them received the ridiculous hatred that Twilight did back in the day. Captain Marvel was hated because it was for women. In fact, the hatred w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:19 PM
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Women are more interested in men's personality than men are interested in women's personality. Even TRP says so. The whole "alpha" and "beta" thing has to do with men's personality. Men don't care about a woman's personality or opinions. In fact, deep down they would prefer women who don't speak at all. Men just view women as possessions, as an extension of themselves. Women , from the male point of view, is just there to compliment the male identity. However, men show deep hostility towards ANY…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:14 PM
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It's all true. Just look at history. This is how men operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:33 PM
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No, women love opportunistically. However, at least women are actually interested in a man's personality and achievements. Men on the other hand hate everything that women actually do. They only love the "idea" of women. You can see it everywhere around you. Things that are feminine or "for women" always receive a disproportionate amount of hatred. Just look at the irrational hysteria around the Captain Marvel movie. Just look at the irrational hatred towards 50 shades of Gray. Men watch porn al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:29 PM
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Men don't love women in general. They're more in love with the "idea" of owning a woman. It all has to do with the male identity which considers it imperative for a man to own a woman. They don't care about a woman's personality or about her opinions. In fact, deep down they despise everything that women say and do. Men don't care if women get raped or sexually assaulted unless she's a close relative and then they only care because "muh male honor". It's the same reason why many men murder women…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:34 PM
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Why should Women sleep with people they're not attracted to? It's beyond gross. I know that men don't realize these things because they're incapable of seeing things from the female point of view, but sleeping with unattractive people literally FEELS like rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 08:37 AM
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Nope, even men who were never married are worse off than single women. It is women's presence that motivates men, generally speaking. This is why men who get married typically work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:47 AM
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Well then, i guess, this qualifies for "toxic men" i guess. Tell me, why do women choose to be with such men? Men are toxic because women reward it. All men are this way deep down. Some try to overcome it, but lets be honest...All men are socialized to think this way. Or it may be evolution. Lets flip that around. What does he gain from you? He gains companionship, and offers it in return. That is fair. Men value female companionship more than the other way around. This is easily shown in variou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:21 AM
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Women bring more to the table by just being there. Don't blame me, blame men who don't value a woman's personality, they just want her to be there. In fact, having no personality is probably better in the eyes of the average male. Heck, even TRP tends to admit that men value women for just being there. Men just want a woman as a "prize", a "possession". That's why they "protect" their "own women" from foreign men but would happily rape the women of another tribe just to assert their dominance. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:01 AM
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Men should pay. They have more well-paying jobs than women on average and women spend a lot of money on self-care. (unlike men who don't give a damn about their appearance which is why most of them are ugly, which is why women rated most men as ugly on OkCupid) I used to believe in splitting the bill, but then I realized that women tend to bring more to the table than men. Which is why, traditionally ,it is men that need to prove themselves in all sort of ways. Women gain value by just "being th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:35 AM
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You want something hilarious? Ask the average evolutionary BIOLOGIST what they think about evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 05:21 AM
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Yea, to protect them...usually to protect them FROM OTHER MEN. Men are by far the biggest threat to women. This is why women are better off without them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 05:15 AM
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Men like being married more than women. This is proven by the fact that men are MORE likely to want to remarry than women. https://time.com/3584827/pew-marriage-divorce-remarriage/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 03:48 PM
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Women would survive just fine and would figure it out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:19 PM
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The biggest threat to women is other men, so women would be fine on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:12 PM
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The statistics disagree with you. Married men are happier and healthier than single men. The same is not true for married women vs. single women. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-it-women https://www.jstor.org/stable/585665?seq=1 Men are lost puppies without a woman's guidance. They literally don't even go to the doctor to seek medical help if left to their own devices. There are actual studies that show this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:55 PM
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I am just stating the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:34 PM
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Yes, most men suck and women would want nothing to do with them if it wasn't for forced monogamy. Men in general need women more than women need men. We can see this now that women are finally getting liberated, they want nothing to do with a good portion of men and the situation will grow worse in the future. And you know what? I say that's a good thing. Women have tolerated awful men for sooo long. I don't care if men cant get laid, it's finally time for them to learn that they can't always ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:05 PM
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Why did people miss the entire point of my comment which was to point out that Japan is not the patriarchal paradise weebs think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 10:20 AM
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To discuss female dating strategy. Women who date men deserve to know the truth.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/19 10:40 PM
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My point was that these weebs are implying that Japan is some patriarchal paradise that we should be copying. But the reality is that Japan has many of the problems they're complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:41 PM
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Do Red Pillers who go to Japan and Asia in general realize that women there only like them because they're white? I am listening to Rian Stone's stream video where he talks to Rollo and to another guy who lives in Japan. The weeb white guy living in Japan thinks that Japanese women are ultra feminine and he also has a Japanese girlfriend. He implies that Japan is some sort of awesome country for men. However, when you look at the bigger picture, Japan is not the paradise for men these weebs are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:23 PM
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Sure. From the female point of view, there is nothing wrong with being the "reliable" man. Only men view it in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:12 PM
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Do you know which group actually wants to encourage men to spend more time with their children? Feminists do. Encourage more men to be SAHD and you will see more of them getting custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:04 PM
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There are no biases in family courts. The kids go to the mother often because MOTHERS SPEND WAY MORE TIME ON PARENTING. It makes sense to be with the parent that actually raised you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:07 PM
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They don't want to understand women, they want to control them. Just look at the narrative surrounding TRP. They want women who are submissive and obedient and hate women who challenge them. Many RPillers are literally far-right and want to kick women out of most jobs and out of higher education. They also believe that women shouldn't vote. I am not even exaggerating. There is documentation of multiple "elite" Red Pillers, like Endorsed Contributors and Vanguards, saying that women shouldn't be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 12:59 AM
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Men never cared about what women have to say. They always hated us and viewed as as prizes and possessions. Just look at history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 12:50 AM
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I don't believe that men love women for who they are. At best I believe that men feel protective of their own women on an instinctual level. If anything, in my experience, men tend to despise everything that women do. They want women who don't speak and don't have opinions at all. But they also seem to hate women for being too childish. In general, they hate everything about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 12:41 PM
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If you were really Red Pill you would know to admit those things. I have seen many of the top Red Pillers admitting that men have evolved to rape the women of the lands their conquer. It's the other side of the "war brides" thing. When I look around, I don’t see none of that nonsense. https://www.nytimes.com/1939/12/25/archives/man-kills-woman-who-rejected-him-then-takes-own-life-after-predawn.html https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/24/california-man-shoots-baby-head-mom-rejects-h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:51 AM
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It's built around protecting "our own women". Most men would happily rape foreign women as a symbol of their domination over the enemy men. It's literally what they always have done. Also, the reason why women didn't go to war historically was not (mainly) for their protection but because men didn't want them to get in the way. They viewed war as a "male heroism and pride" thing and didn't want women to get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:42 AM
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Just look around you. Men literally want to murder women for being rejected. It's a miracle many hold themselves back. You don't see that many women committing murder over being rejected, do you? Here's how men operate. They protect their "own women". (for the sake of male pride) and they brutally rape foreign women of the countries they conquer. This is literally what they have been doing since the beginning of humanity. So no. They don't care about women. They view women as possessions. As obj…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:39 AM
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Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:36 AM
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They hate women. They literally only view women as possessions. You can see that they hate everything that women actually do or don't do. They hate women with opinions. They hate women with ambitions. They hate women who cry. They hate women who laugh too much. They hate everything. They don't care if women get raped or sexually assaulted unless it's "their women". Many of them would rape women of another country during wartime because this is what men do. Men only protect women because they vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:03 AM
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They all have the urge to do it. Some of them manage to hold themselves back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:53 AM
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It's basically the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:52 AM
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Do we have an epidemic of women killing their own partners? Do we have multiple cases of women murdering men for being rejected? No, we don't. It is men who murder women, which is why the double standard exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 07:23 PM
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Why so sensitive? Can't you just take a joke? This is just female locker room talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 07:14 PM
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If you read the second link, you'll see that there are literally dozens of studies that show that men benefit from marriage more than women. Single men are total trainwrecks and they're the group most likely to die early, end up homeless or commit suicide. Men by themselves are also LESS likely to seek medical help for their problems. Another thing is that studies show that men are actually more willing to remarry than women. This is most likely because men like being married more than women. Ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 10:56 AM
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Most men don't talk to other men about their problems thanks to toxic masculinity. Instead they choose to budger women endlessly about their problems. They literally treat women like their personal therapists. Sorry, but nope. Men should start talking to their own friends, like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 10:35 AM
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No, TRP is inherently neoreactionary. They promote the Dark Enlightenment and they believe that liberalism is inherently destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 10:32 AM
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Nope. Men rely emotionally on women more than women rely on men. It's why married men are happier, healthier and wealthier than single men, while married women are NOT happier, healthier or wealthier than single women. It's also why men have high suicide rates. (guess which group of men is the most likely to commit suicide? Single men that are over 65) https://www.jstor.org/stable/585665?seq=1 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-it-women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 10:25 AM
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Nonsense. TRPillers blame women about all sort of things all the time. Also, the point isn't that women should be single or with a loser. The point is that they shouldn't lower the standards. And why should they when a good 80% of men has nothing to offer to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:38 AM
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This is how you get polygamy. And suicide bombers. Women shouldn't have to sacrifice themselves just because men as sex-crazed, violent beasts. It is men who should learn to be celibate or else. If women in the current environment believe they need men less than men need women, and act as if men are disposable, this has elements of a self fulfilling prophecy. You won't get better men by acting like men are mostly disposable. You will get men who check out. And do so on an unprecedented scale. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 11:14 PM
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Men only complain about men's problems when it comes to attacking women/feminism. They literally don't give a shit about men's problems otherwise and you can see it in the way they vote. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for such people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 10:29 PM
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And? This means literally nothing, because most men AREN'T politicians/billionaires. The top 1% of men are not reflective of men as a whole, this really shouldn't need explained. It's a sign that men have more ACCESS to power, that's for sure. Not all men are billionaires but they have better chances to become billionaires than women do. Absolute nonsense, that isn't backed up by any study, and you yourself even disagree with later in your comment. This is merely a case of female projection, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 10:26 PM
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It's a sub for WOMEN BY WOMEN. Why do men expect everything to be about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:50 PM
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It's simply the truth. Men need women more than women need men and the stats around single people of each gender prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:50 PM
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Most men have nothing to offer to the modern woman anyway, so FDSers are right. Why lower your standards when you're better off being single than being with some loser? I personally encourage all women to raise the standards, because the average man is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:14 PM
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This is male solipsism and not how women view things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:02 PM
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Men, as a group, have more political and economic power than women. Most politicians and billionaires are male and it is assumed that these men tend to promote policies that favor the male gender in general. For that reason, people believe that men's problems are generally their own fault. It's hard not to believe that when they vote in such a suicidal way. Let me give you an example. Here in Greece, men whine about mandatory military service. And then they will go and vote for conservatives who…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:25 PM
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And what do women gain by sleeping with you early? You're likely going to abandon them and disappear after you have sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:20 PM
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As a woman who has had sex with someone she was not attracted to, it pretty much feels like rape when you do that. Most women don't want to have sex with men they're not attracted to, plain and simple. It feels humiliating and rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:09 AM
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Nonsense. If men didn't need women then they wouldn't whine endlessly about how they can't get laid and how they can't find a housewife. Look at the stats. Single men are more unhealthy and unhappy than married men. The same is NOT true for single women vs. married women. Men over 65 are among the most suicidal groups. Why? Because older men get isolated if they're single. Older women do not get isolated. Men are more likely to want to remarry. Why? Because men like being married more than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 12:16 PM
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Yes, I have literally seen men who wear the exact same clothes, every day, for MONTHS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:38 AM
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Why do they "need" to? Lol. Men vastly overestimate how much they have to offer to the modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:51 PM
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Why are TRPillers so obsessed with finding a "housewife" who will have kids? I am literally looking at the front page of /r/TheRedPill right now and there are at least two posts that are like "woah, why can't I have a traditional, feminine woman who will be a housewife?" Just why? Why is it so important for the woman not to work in 2019? You do realize that the economy would suffer if women just stopped working, right? Also, if you hate alimony, why would you want a housewife? You do realize tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:54 PM
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I ignore him. I am too autistic to make eye contact with a sexually attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 09:27 PM
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Based on my experiences masturbating, it's actually very easy for women to orgasm. They reason why they don't orgasm when having sex with men is that most men are ugly and don't even put any effort, it's plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:11 PM
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Indeed. There was literally a study that showed that straight men get the most orgasms, surpassing even the gays. Straight women on the other hand, are the LEAST likely to orgasm. Lets be honest, most men are bad at sex. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0939-z
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:00 PM
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It's actually the opposite. At least 80% of men make 0 effort to look good. (as opposed to most women who pay great attention to their own appearance) Most men are hideous compared to women. I literally see tons of men wearing the same clothes everyday for MONTHS. They don't give a fuck. For this reason, most women have ridiculously LOW standards when it comes to the male appearance. It's actually sad that men have got away with being hideous for so long. Men should start wearing makeup, just li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:57 PM
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It's true though. The modern view of romantic love didn't always exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:06 AM
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It's actually a good thing that love is dead. It was always an illusion. What people call love is basically obsessive lust. "Love" didn't even exist until it was created sometime in the Middle Ages. As about the complaint that feminists are imperialists...I thought the complaint was that feminists didn't care about women in Islamic countries. Wasn't that what conservatives were whining about all the time? "Why don't feminists say something about Islam?" blah blah blah. Now it seems that you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:55 AM
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You just choose to ignore the evidence. Men need women more than women need men. In fact, men express a higher desire to remarry than women, showing that men enjoy being married more. Men in general report more satisfaction in their marriage than women do. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/article-women-older-than-65-dont-want-to-live-with-their-partners/ https://time.com/3584827/pew-marriage-divorce-remarriage/ This is just simple biology.Women have more difficulty to reach an …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:01 PM
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Women siding with the enemy means that they have "evolved" that way. Men siding with the enemy means???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:32 PM
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Retarded example. Many French men sided with the Germans. There were literally paramilitary groups of French men working for the Germans. You clearly have no idea about history.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:24 PM
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No, it's literally made up and based on 0 scientific evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:23 PM
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Of course they do. Most men have literally nothing to offer to women. In fact, men historically suppressed women in order to FORCE them to stay with them. Otherwise, women want nothing to do with a good 50-60% of men and for good reason.... Lets see. What do men have to offer to the modern, financially independent woman? Sex? HAHAHAHAHA. Studies prove that straight men are the MOST likely to have an orgasm, even more likely than gays, while straight women are the LEAST likely group to have an or…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:22 PM
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I literally have studies to support everything I said. What do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:01 PM
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Most men are simply horrible husbands and fathers. They don't really help with the housework even when both spouses work full-time. (there are actual studies on this) They are actually more likely to cheat on women than the other way around. They're more likely than women to abandon a sick and dying spouse. They're lazy, plain and simple. There are studies and statistics for everything I said above. The reason why women divorce men is that men are horrible. Plain and simple. Reactionary men want…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:43 PM
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Rollo Tomassi on twitter literally defended someone who sexually assaulted a woman and it's on video. In the responses, the Red Pill dudes were literally making fun of her, saying that she should be happy to be sexually assaulted. This is the real face of TRP, so you're right. Men hate women. It's easy for people to say that not all men are Red Piller, but I actually think this is how men think if left to their own devices. https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1203535855576481793 Just look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:16 PM
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No, I'm not. It's literally the reality. It doesn't matter if it's "good" or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:53 AM
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Literally most men disagree with you. They live and breath for female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:52 AM
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Men literally live and breath for female validation. They want to control women and they want women to act like cheerleaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:46 AM
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This thread convinced me again that men just want a doormat. "supportive, nurturing, validating". LOL, just say you want a doormat with no opinions. Lets be honest, men prove once again that they simply want to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:41 AM
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Being a single man only works if you're upper middle class. In my experience (and stats seem to agree with me), low middle class and working-class single men tend to be total trainwrecks after 50. Unfortunately, those types are the most likely to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:56 PM
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Men are worse off and it's not even a contest. Single men, even those who were never married, are significantly worse off than married men. The same is not true for single women vs. married women. I recommend reading these articles. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/article-women-older-than-65-dont-want-to-live-with-their-partners/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-the-trouble-women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 12:26 PM
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No both of those articles. The second one links to multiple studies that show that men benefit from marriage wayyy more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:39 AM
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Did you even read the links I posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:23 AM
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Considering that men want women more than women want men, it is safe to say that women's mere presence is valuable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:06 AM
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There are literally many studies that support my theory that men actually get more from women than women get from men. Many men literally have nothing to offer except for money. So in a way TRP is right that women have high standards. But they're not seeing the whole picture. Women have high standards because most men are completely and utterly useless to women. Back in the day, women were intentionally excluded from highly paid jobs and this forced women to rely on men. Now, this doesn't work s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 10:55 PM
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Did you read what I said? If people will be able to alter their kid's intelligence in the future, they will probably be able to alter other things too. Genetic engineering will make things like race and gender completely meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:16 AM
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No, if anything, genetic engineering will make the concept of gender completely irrelevant. Think about it, it is widely believed that it will be possible to "design" your kid's intelligence in the near future. If that is possible then soon enough you will probably be able to erase gender differences too. People will just keep the good traits from both men and women and design the kids they see as ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:30 AM
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Ok, dude. I assume you want to return to feudalism too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:49 PM
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MRAs, incels, MGTOWs, redpillers, or anti-feminists. All of these groups have strong alt-right links, except maybe for the MRAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:34 PM
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Then you have not been around enough. Read this thread. And this is from years ago, things have actually got worse now. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1mmuuo/is_theredpills_antidemocratic_streak_defensible/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:25 PM
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The fact that racial discussions are not allowed in this sub is a joke since there are massive racially related issues in dating. Also, why don't people call out TRP more often for their neoreactionary/alt-right links? I feel like I'm the only person in this sub who bothers to criticize the obvious: that there strong connections between TRP and the alt-right/neoreactionaryism. Are we really going to ignore that most of the top RP bloggers and contributors are hardcore reactionaries who believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:13 PM
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Then women should just stop dating most men. It's as simple as that. It's not worth it in most cases. Women should only go on dates if the man if uber high value. Otherwise, what does the average male even have to offer? If not for money, the average male offers nothing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:50 AM
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I will believe it when men stop going for women who wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:58 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257772245_The_Cost_of_Doing_Femininity_Gendered_Disparities_in_Pricing_of_Personal_Care_Products_and_Services https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/dca/downloads/pdf/partners/Study-of-Gender-Pricing-in-NYC.pdf Why don't you just do a little research yourself, hmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:33 AM
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I used to believe in splitting the bill. Then I looked at how much women tend to spend on haircuts/clothes/makeup and how much men tend to spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:22 AM
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Then it's okay, however in most cases it doesn't happen. Women spend more money on their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:06 AM
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Nobody prevented you from rejecting a woman. Don't be absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:00 AM
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It's not okay. Women spend more money on men on their appearance. Women's clothes are usually more expensive than men's clothes. Makeup costs a fortune. And don't say nonsense like that women should just not wear makeup. If men really preferred women with no makeup then most women would stop wearing it. However, they obviously do prefer women who wear makeup. Women shouldn't accept to split the bill unless the man has no problem dating someone who wears no makeup and dresses like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:57 AM
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To some extent this is true, but I also think that the average person believes that women are more less adversarial, more trustworthy people and that men are more brutish, more untrustworthy people. I don’t think it’s just infantilization of women at play. First of all, this view still has roots in traditionalism. Second of all, it's actually true. Sorry, there are many studies that prove that women are nicer and more generous than men. It's just fact. Here's from an old post of mine. TRPillers …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:51 PM
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Do you actually know where this mentality comes from? Back in the day, the husband would often get punished for his wife's actions because it was assumed that he had authority over her. The mentality has remained. Women receive lenient sentences because they're still seen as infantilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:46 PM
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Most of "female privilege" exists because men are thirsty suckers. That is not real power and autonomy. Just because young and pretty women can theoretically get tons of gifts and free meals from men who want to get laid, this doesn't mean that it's real power. Other things, like that women receive more lenient sentences for crimes, also exist specifically because women are infantilized and treated like children. Again that's not real power. At the end of the day, women are still at the mercy of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:40 PM
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It's literally the mainstream view in the manosphere, advocated by some of the most well-respected personalities in the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:28 PM
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How many white, black or 3rd gen+ Americans do you know who believe we should ban women from education or the workplace? In the manosphere, such views the the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:28 PM
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They literally want to control women. I used to think feminists are crazy, but experience has taught me they're completely right on this. Men literally can't stand the thought that they can't control women's bodies. You can see it throughout the manosphere: They despise women who dress provicatively and are promiscuous, yet they also despise women who "play hard to get". They hate alimony, yet they also hate career women who makes as much money as them even though such women are the types who do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:25 PM
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They don't offer anything to women, which is why incel types usually want to take women's rights away. They think the only way they can have a woman is by literally coercing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:18 PM
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Men need women more than women need men and TRPillers interpret it as "women and men love differently". Look at the statistics surrounding single men: Single men are more likely to be unhealthy than married men. Single women are not likely to be more unhealthy than married women. Single men are more depressed than married men, it's the opposite for single women vs married women. Single, older men are more likely to suffer from loneliness than single women and that is because men don't even know …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:07 AM
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So people didn't believe me when I said that marriage is a better deal for men than for women, despite all evidence that shows this to be the case. Here's a new article that shows this. It would also explain why men over 65 have high suicide rates. (while women over 65 don't) https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/article-women-older-than-65-dont-want-to-live-with-their-partners/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:54 AM
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So Rollo Tomassi recently did a video with a Muslim about how feminism is trying to take over Islam. (oh the horror!) How long until the top Red Pillers get converted to Islam? Seems like a religion that suits their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 02:58 AM
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You honestly don't understand how the economy works, do you? There is no incentive to limiting women to being wives and mothers anymore. Countries that limit women are total shitholes with shit economy. (ok Saudi Arabia is an exception, but even that will soon change once we stop relying so much on oil)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 02:54 AM
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The family unit as we know it will definitely become obsolete because of changes in the economy. The family model was never static. Back when we used to live in tribes, all people helped raise the children. After that we had the extended family unit and when capitalism became a thing, the nuclear family was created. Because of changes in technology, it's simply impossible that the economy will not change with it. And with the economy changing, the family model will change too. It's just how it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 06:16 PM
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Leftists want to increase social mobility and improve social security that helps low status males. They also want to reduce incarceration which affects primarily males. Also, it is conservatives that typically support nonsense like the male-only draft. What did conservatives ever do for men again?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:15 PM
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Yea, no. Do lower-class and non-white men even count for you? Or do you only care about middle-class white men? The Left is good for low class males.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 08:56 PM
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Women are getting sexually harassed every single day. If you have a daughter then there's a huge chance that she has been sexually harassed or worse at least once in her life. Women's work is undervalued. Most companies would simply prefer to hire a man over a woman, even if both are equally capable. People whine about diversity quotas but they don't seem to realize that these programs exist only because most were biased in favor of women and whites. If you don't want to be treated as disposable…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:49 PM
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TRPillers are mostly far-right neoreactionaries. It has literally been well-documented that there are strong links between TRP and the far-right. What else did you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 08:04 PM
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As opposed to /r/TRP which is totally open to different opinions. /s So much that I was literally banned from there for merely questioning GLO.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:31 PM
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Men don't really care that much about being considered unmasculine to other men though; what is relevant to men is that masculine behaviour and traits are rewarded by women Trololololo. Experience says otherwise. Men do want to appear masculine to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 01:01 PM
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The analysis of the MRAs about why men face those problems is totally wrong. I will admit that feminists are sometimes too dismissive of male issues, but this doesn't change that MRAs and the manosphere in general looks at things in a completely backward way. The vast majority of male problems are caused by traditionalism and traditional masculinity. MRAs think that their problems are caused by feminism. (Lol) Most MRAs are crypto-tradcons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:01 PM
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True, the ones who bully men for being "unmasculine" are usually other men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 11:58 AM
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Reactionaries have been whining about the collapse of western civilization for several decades now and nothing of the sort has happened. It's just hysterical fear-mongering. The world has changed and there is no going back. Accept it and stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:38 PM
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There is no incentive to have many kids with how the modern economy works. Back in the day, low class people had many kids so that they could have many people working in the farms. Rich people and nobles of the past often had few kids too. Nowadays, most people don't work as farmers or some shit like this. There is no reason to have many kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:21 PM
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Lol, it's funny how you're implying that the moms are to blame instead of these dads being murderous, raging lunatics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:28 AM
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Tell that to all the people who died because of incel terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:25 AM
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They often literally glorify mass shooters. They're insane nutjobs. Incel.co is actually worse than /r/incels used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:21 AM
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Yes, I have been on incels.co. It's actually even WORSE.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:16 AM
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Bullshit. You're just trying to rewrite history. I used to lurk around subs like /r/incels. Terrorists like Elliot Rodger were often glorified.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:14 AM
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