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Hey_itsmeguys/r/FeminismStopsWhen13/06/21 12:06 PM
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resourceHey_itsmeguys/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 07:43 AM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists15/05/21 02:24 PM
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misandryHey_itsmeguys/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 01:32 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights09/06/21 02:00 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/FeminismStopsWhen23/05/21 10:48 AM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists02/08/21 04:55 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights27/05/21 02:23 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 08:59 AM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists08/06/21 11:04 AM
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Marriage/ChildrenHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights16/05/21 02:22 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 03:23 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists13/08/21 12:03 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights24/06/21 10:27 AM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:03 PM
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misandryHey_itsmeguys/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 02:29 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists24/06/21 10:21 AM
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discussionHey_itsmeguys/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/21 04:40 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights28/08/21 02:14 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights18/06/21 01:39 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists04/06/21 04:45 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:09 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 01:55 PM
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FeminismHey_itsmeguys/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:06 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists08/06/21 04:31 PM
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Hey_itsmeguys/r/AntiFeminists07/06/21 11:21 AM
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I think you need to read up on why they are this way. They believe that men have systemic power and so society needs to be destroyed to make them equal to women. I know this is way too much for you to understand in like 5 minutes, but just read up all their terms on New Discourses and listen to his podcast where he explains the entire woke ideology. It's not exactly feminism but it includes it. Think of the woke ideology as a template. It can be applied to any group: women are oppressed by patri…
/r/AntiFeminists06/09/21 02:37 PM
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Yeah, I mentioned what the actual meaning is in the post, and how the word is used now.
/r/MensRights03/09/21 01:36 PM
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I really don't think it's gaslighting to point out that this experiment didn't have a control. You seem unable to justify why they didn't need one That's because you keep pretending you're from another planet. You refuse to believe that hate against white people is accepted but hate against black people isn't. That's gaslighting. They explicitly state that do they? Well you have piqued my interest Well too bad. I'm not wasting my time on a manipulator.
/r/AntiFeminists03/09/21 02:52 AM
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And despite these massive flaws people like yourself frequently use this experiment as a handy tool to dismiss any data that disagrees with you. You are utterly hopeless. You narcissistically manipulate and gaslight people so you can feel superior. I could talk about "research justice" which explicitly states it's mission is to throw out reason, objectivity and rigorous science, but what's the use? You'll just gaslight me.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 04:43 PM
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Dr Debra Soh (one example of many) has talked about how evidence that the establishment doesn't like is not even considered and the academics are cancelled.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 10:20 AM
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I'm done, man. You clearly love to gaslight people into thinking the incidents in broader culture aren't real.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 10:17 AM
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Oh please. As if these people would accept any evidence that goes against them (that calling them that doesn't help).
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:41 AM
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Jesus Christ, man. Stop lying. Just stop. Stop pretending you're from another planet. Get your head out of the ground and look around. Portland is in ruins because of the left and no one gives a shit. A few right-wingers stumble into the Capitol and everyone loses their shit. Do you really think a paper that called for black people to be chained to the floor for "being oppressors" would've had the same amount of praise as the other paper? After all the incidents in broader society? Edit: BLM bur…
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:40 AM
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I'm saying grey areas in free speech are regularly exploited by authoritarians. The China example isn't the only one. Puritans, angry medieval mobs etc. all thought they were "reducing harm".
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:33 AM
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Are you gaslighting me on purpose? Because you're really terrible at it. Someone saying that would've been immediately cancelled. Everyone knows that. But you'd rather act like you just landed on this planet, just so you don't have to admit you're wrong.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:27 AM
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Lol no wtf. That's what the SJWs think. How so? Remember when China said that talking about freeing Hong Kong "threatened national security"?
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:25 AM
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Are you delusional? Do you have amnesia? Do you not understand the mindset you yourself have? These people claim that white people should be chained because they are oppressors. Clearly black people aren't considered oppressors by them.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:22 AM
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But "kill all men" is perfectly fine? You clearly don't understand common sense. You don't get how much a grey area like that gets exploited. You just want to virtue signal while ushering in a totalitarian dictatorship.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:21 AM
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Did you even read the post? I said those idiots wanted white kids to be cruelly chained to the floor. Your arguing about semantics doesn't do jack shit about that.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:19 AM
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Reduced suicide rates and less mental illness? Yeah man, I'll sip that kool-aid all day. Yeah, say that words are violence and then shift the goalpost as soon as you're challenged. Typical SJW behaviour. Ah this garbage! Now this is an example of shoddy science. Wow. You completely missed the point. There is clear ideological bias, given by how recommendations were given that were even crazier than the papers themselves ("While chaining white kids to the ground, don't focus on compassion because…
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 07:13 AM
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I get that, I'm just sick of getting backstabbed by left-wing male advocates.
/r/MensRights02/09/21 06:49 AM
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It's not this is just done for the fuck of it. Ideas like this lead to huge harm reduction Jesus Christ, you drank the kool-aid, didn't you? You have some seriously fucked-up ideas of what "harm" is. Do you have any proof of this what so ever? Yes. The entire grievance studies affair.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 06:47 AM
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I've written a manifesto against patriarchy theory. Feel free to look through my posted stuff and saved stuff for anything useful. I'd recommend my post about how "emotional labour" is the term emotionally abusive women use.
/r/MensRights02/09/21 06:39 AM
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There is also a perception that here is filled with right wingers. Honestly, so what if it is? What's morally wrong about being right-wing? Even most other manosphere spaces act as if being right-wing somehow makes you a bad person.
/r/MensRights02/09/21 06:36 AM
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"Science" with a political agenda isn't science. Just like how feminists claim that their precious patriarchy theory is "social science", but in reality it's a bogus conspiracy theory supported by idiots. Just because your idiotic presuppositions were idea laundered into academia, doesn't make it "science". It's anti-science pretending to be science. Sure, say that no feminist thinks science is a social construct made to oppress women while they call any real science "pseudo-science which is bas…
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 06:25 AM
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Even then, which movement has more power and influence in society? Which one is supported by the media, academia and politics?
/r/MensRights31/08/21 06:37 AM
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I don't think you realise how much feminists hate the US. How about instead of throwing other men under the bus (like so many MRAs do), you just oppose the idea of patriarchy altogether?
/r/MensRights31/08/21 05:28 AM
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And yet moral grandstanders love to say that we're just feminism but for men. "bOtH sIdEs aRe eQuAlLy bAd."
/r/MensRights31/08/21 04:16 AM
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They are. This isn't original. I got these quotes from this guy, who probably got them from here.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/21 04:01 AM
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Bruh. All you had to do was mention that men fantasise about femdoms and black bulls.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/21 03:55 AM
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You named one (who is long dead), I'm still waiting for nine more. What ten feminists have spoken out against the misandry in the feminist movement? And I mean celebrated feminists, not outcasts like Christina Hoff Sommers. All she proves is that feminism has always been a shit movement.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/21 03:43 AM
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I mean, just look up the terms on New Discourses. It's not like my opinions aren't backed up with facts.
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/21 03:41 AM
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The sheer irony of someone denying misandry's existence while saying this.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen30/08/21 05:31 PM
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I think this should answer your question.
/r/AntiFeminists30/08/21 05:24 PM
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Oh really? Can you name 10 feminists who are these angels you describe? I'll name 17 misandric feminists right now: Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Coffin Mott and Martha Coffin Wright who wrote the Declaration of Sentiments. A sentence from it: "The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her." Suffragettes like Emmeline Pankhurst organised bombing and arson campai…
/r/AntiFeminists30/08/21 04:42 PM
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Wow. Such wonderful insight. Really valuable stuff here. How could I possibly hope to contend with such facts, evidence and logic?
/r/AntiFeminists30/08/21 03:29 PM
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What do I know? I hardly ever hang out with anyone.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 03:09 PM
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Not just that. There's a difference between a political movement and an identity group. Let me put it this way: If someone doesn't like BLM for all its flaws, they can just leave the movement and stop associating with it. That doesn't work for identity groups. It's perfectly fine to generalise a political movement from its public image. The whole point of one is that like minded people get together to achieve a goal.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 06:07 AM
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That's really not good enough. It just says the cab driver should be supported because "feminism fights for gender equality".
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/21 02:02 PM
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Does this post link to itself? Seems that way for me.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/21 06:22 PM
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I don't use Twitter. Can you take a bunch of screenshots of those tweets and upload them on Imgur (also send me the link)? Bonus points if the tweets say something like, "He deserved it because of patriarchy/because men have oppressed women for hundreds of years." That'll definitely prove that feminists support the violence.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/21 03:21 PM
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Are you talking about this incident? Also, can you bring up examples of feminists praising her? I'd love to have that evidence at hand.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/21 02:45 PM
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They're what we call in the PCM sphere "orange LibLeft": AuthLefts pretending to be Libs. MensLib is a perfect example of this. Pretend to be liberal while pushing a totalitarian ideology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 12:17 PM
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I can't even understand what they're so angry about. I can't discern it from those pictures.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/21 08:02 AM
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From the comment section. Lmao.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/21 07:55 AM
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I hope this helps you guys cut through the double meaning of the word "hate" as they use it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 04:26 AM
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There's something deeply unsettling about someone bragging about how likely they are to die.
/r/MensRights17/08/21 03:28 PM
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I don't think MGTOW is on our side. This is what one of them had to say to us. MGTOW is just men who've given up. Not exactly fighting for any cause.
/r/MensRights17/08/21 03:21 PM
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Ruqqus is a complete dumpster fire right now. Also this.
/r/MensRights17/08/21 01:13 PM
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Even r/MensRights is becoming feminist now lol. Huh?
/r/MensRights17/08/21 08:21 AM
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And then what? She'll talk about how misandry is fine/doesn't exist with absolutely no self awareness.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:37 AM
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You think they haven't solved that cognitive dissonance already? They have an entire theory and field of study for rationalising their double standard as to why misogyny is bad but misandry is good.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:07 AM
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This post is meant for people like you.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:05 AM
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Warren is an outcast, kicked away by the feminist establishment. He might call himself a feminist, but that doesn't mean he's part of the movement. We're talking about the feminist establishment. Does this show you that Warren is a feminist, or that he's hated by feminists?
/r/MensRights16/08/21 10:34 AM
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These people have obvious double standards. Their process of rationalising them is plainly visible. No one said they had to fuck all incels so they don't shoot them. Just treat them like humans instead of demonizing them in the myriad of ways that modern first world women do.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/21 10:00 AM
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This sounds suspiciously similar to that grievance studies hoax paper: Rubbing One Out: Defining Metasexual Violence of Objectification Through Nonconsensual Masturbation Here's an article for more information.
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/21 09:21 AM
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No mention of the feminists who mocked Korean men's penises. Constant strawmanning of the opposite side. This is absolutely horrible.
/r/AntiFeminists13/08/21 12:04 PM
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https://ruqqus.com/+antifeminists In case things go horribly wrong.
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/21 08:10 AM
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Have you considered posting this in r/Male_Studies ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 08:30 AM
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Internalised oppression (In this case misogyny) is complete nonsense. Internalized oppression is one of Social Justice’s nastier concepts. Under a rubric of internalized oppression, any member of a “minoritized” or “oppressed” group who doesn’t follow the Social Justice (that is, woke or critically conscious) mentality can be accused of being an unwitting sell-out or victim of false consciousness that acts against their own interests. This might be done either cynically or by unintentionally sup…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/21 03:42 AM
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These are the same people who will whine about how women ordering men around is an amazing achievement because of all the "emotional labour" she has to go through.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/21 03:35 AM
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The sheer irony of a feminist saying we were fed propaganda. Edit: Hopefully articles like this and this explain the condescension. This should explain why these idiots say idiotic things and then wound collect and use any criticism as fuel for further radicalisation.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 04:29 AM
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On the one hand, I'm thinking, "Hopefully this shows them that we aren't alt-right or whatever." On the other, if they were planning on attacking us and this convinces them otherwise, is it really that much of a win? That would prove that they don't care about men, they only care about gays.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 04:42 AM
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Well, I'm only 4 years older than you, so I'm pretty close to being a hypocrite here.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/21 03:30 PM
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Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 03:23 PM
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I'm still a little surprised a 14 year old is on this subreddit.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/21 03:20 PM
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We need to find an other term for those cunts. I think you just did.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/21 03:19 PM
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This should help: https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-intersectionality/
/r/MensRights05/08/21 12:08 PM
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Did you explain that to the mods? You can reply to the ban message, you know?
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/21 11:21 AM
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That's literally what I've been saying for SO LONG, yet she just goes back to, "B-b-but people's experiences are valid." and no matter how much I show that patriarchy is bogus and there's no reason to describe society as one, she just keeps saying the same thing while mindfucking me with her extremely confusing definition of patriarchy.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 11:19 AM
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Don't let the "lib" in their name fool you. They're what we call in the PCM sphere: orange libleft.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:10 PM
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Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:12 PM
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An explanation of how feminists use the word: https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-misogyny/
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:08 PM
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People's experiences can be explained in a multitude of ways. They don't have to go, "This is definitely representative of a definite pattern in society." and then organise politically around it. Not to mention the sheer amount of academic time put into it.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 02:51 PM
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Again, you defer to another feminist to legitimise your point of view ("patriarchy is a scientific concept"). This is exactly what I'm talking about. Those people have not measured the patriarchy as you define it. They've measured it in the way feminism defines it, which is extremely faulty and unfalsifiable, hence unscientific.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 02:50 PM
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It's not a scientific concept. Did you read the article I linked about how an unfalsifiable concept is bogus? Edit: This one - https://blogs.stjude.org/progress/hypothesis-must-be-falsifiable.html
/r/MensRights03/08/21 02:09 PM
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All I want is for you to actually consider the points I'm making (and others) about how useless it is to organise around a bogus unfalsifiable concept that has zero proof behind it, and which is not allowed to be questioned. Why would anyone take that seriously?
/r/MensRights03/08/21 02:08 PM
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According to them, you're not allowed to question the existence of a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 02:05 PM
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Please stop. Just stop. You clearly don't realise the sheer number of logical mistakes you're making.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 02:04 PM
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Again, if you want to redefine patriarchy (which I've disproved many times by now), take it up with feminists. Why even use the word "patriarchy"? Saying men have primary power is a complete lie. Edit: Wow, how do you link a page that goes: Argue in favor of either a sociobiological or social constructionist explanation of patriarchy. ...and not see a problem with it?
/r/MensRights03/08/21 01:52 PM
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You say patriarchy is a "scientific" concept, yet it's unfalsifiable, meaning it's worthless. Not to mention the grievance studies affair showing the truth of those fields. You claim we should consider the concept of patriarchy, which implies you think it's legitimate. It clearly isn't.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 01:14 PM
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Dear God, will you ever stop trying to mind-read me as some sort of angry, emotional guy? Just, why do you defer to feminist academics and activists to legitimize your point of view ("scientific field of study", "movement has made progress"), hence associating yourself with them, and then say they don't represent you?
/r/MensRights03/08/21 07:52 AM
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Your definition of patriarchy is so utterly confusing that I'm surprised anyone took you seriously. First you say this: Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. This gives the idea of, "Men have it better in society." But then you do a complete 180 and go: Contrary to popular belief, the concept of patriarchy does NOT mean that ALL men are the oppressors who hold powe…
/r/MensRights03/08/21 06:36 AM
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Okay, I'm completely disillusioned with you. You clearly love making vague accusations at people to guilt them into agreeing with your fundamental assumptions. "If he disagrees with me more than I like, he's angry." I'm seriously concerned about whether your intentions are genuine or power-hungry. What kind of argument is, "IDK, you seem angry."? Oh, I see. I'll make sure not to go beyond your incredibly subjective and vague standard of, "angry". By "other accusations", I meant you calling me "n…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 05:41 PM
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Just stop with these extremely vague accusations of "rudeness". Guess what? When I said, "incoherent rambling", I was criticizing your argument, not "being mean". Just because you're too sensitive to realise I wasn't targeting you, doesn't mean I'm in the wrong here. Since you're being so vague with these accusations, I guess I'll have to play Battleship with you (metaphorically). Is it the swearing? Because that's really common on the Internet. The rest of your accusations are completely unsubs…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 05:17 PM
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My descent into madness.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/21 04:56 PM
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Can you stop with the, "I'm a feminist and I" bullshit? If you're not going to represent the opinion of feminists (the ones that matter, not virtue signalers), stop associating yourself with the label. Do me a favour. Watch this video. Tell me who the "real" feminist is. Is the one being booed or cheered? Is it the one who's opinion is mainstream in media and academia, or is it the outcast who has spoken many times about what the feminist movement has become (I would argue that was really its tr…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 04:42 PM
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I don't think we can have a conversation if you're unwilling to listen my man. I've already explained my side of the story in both my post and my reply to you and you seem to either not understand, or are simply ignoring it in favour of paying attention to straw man arguments. Let's just agree to disagree and be on our way. Or maybe you're just really bad at making arguments that make sense. Seriously, I can't understand what you're trying to say. Would feminists in general be fine with me descr…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 02:31 PM
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I want to point out that your entire manifesto is based on the common misconception that what the patriarchy states is a reality instead of taking into account how it's simply describing a social pattern (like roles, expectations and customs). Men aren't the dominant force in society, society expects men to be dominant. What is this even supposed to mean? Society favours men over women, but at the same time it doesn't? Is this just a convenient tactic for you to push the idea that men are privil…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 12:41 PM
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Again, I want to reiterate that this is a theory/concept that has been studied under sociological and psychological fields so I encourage y'all to search it up and learn more. I admit that feminists often look at these concepts from a female-centric perspective, but the scientific research behind it is unbiased (because that's literally a requirement for scientific studies). Oh really?. Also, let's see if you can refute my manifesto. To the people who say that power hierarchies are "not bad", co…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 08:26 AM
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I totally bet you stand up against feminist misandry too. Oh wait. Besides, they were talking about an individual, not women in general.
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/21 06:23 AM
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Look, I'm absolutely sick of Sam Seder. Every single clip of his show I've seen is completely intolerable. I say through the agony one time, and I don't want to do it again. The very first thing they said infuriated me to writing this comment. "US cultural hegemony." It's so fucking tiresome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 05:14 PM
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Okay, you clearly need to do some reading. I suggest this, this and this.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 05:18 AM
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Here, you dropped this: /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 05:06 AM
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And now you choose to say a whole bunch of nothing, pretending that I care what you have to say.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 05:27 PM
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Have you tried posting a bunch of inconvenient facts? I've written a manifesto that's sure to get them riled up lol. I've saved a bunch of posts and stuff that might be helpful. It might not open for you. Tell me if it doesn't.
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/21 07:04 AM
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You've just admitted to wound collecting and being a misandrist. There's no point in even saying anything to you. You are so incredibly stupid that there is absolutely no way anyone here can say anything that gets through your thick skull. It’s actually not a no true Scotsman fallacy. But ok. Wow. Great argument. Such fluency. I definetely believe you now.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 06:01 AM
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He's a feminist, meaning he believes in patriarchy. It's pretty clear from the way he goes, "fEmInIsM iS lItErAlLy wOmEn'S rIgHtS."
/r/MensRights25/07/21 02:28 PM
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SMH, so much internalised misogyny./s
/r/MensRights25/07/21 02:21 PM
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Jesus Christ, you never learn, do you? You'll happily argue with someone, get completely obliterated and then move on to the next guy, continuing to spout utter horseshit. Get your No True Scotsman fallacy out of here.
/r/MensRights25/07/21 02:20 PM
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Don't come here calling people misogynists and then play victim by going, "I wAs aBuSeD aNd yOu dOn'T cArE." Fuck off, troll.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 01:00 PM
5

Oh really? Can you tell me where you got that bullshit definition from?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 09:42 AM
8

Lol, we're the ones looking for a fight, huh? Not you with how you want to "smash the patriarchy"? Advocating for men means opposing misandry, including feminism. Patriarchy theory is complete bullshit. No wonder feminists are misandrists. Just like you are being right now.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 09:40 AM
1

Fine, man. If you're fine with being racist, sexist etc. then I can't stop you. Also, you seem to care way too much about some internet points.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 09:39 AM
7

Found another article talking about the same thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 09:38 AM
1

So you're fine with the idea of group guilt then, completely oblivious to how much atrocity it's caused in history? That's not what I meant by "generalising". I know that there are trends in the way the genders act. Generalising means saying that all men/women are the same. That's not the same thing.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 07:37 AM
1

First you lie, then you act like a collectivist, then you call me a "w word", whatever that w stands for. Are you sure you're the good guy here? Also no, I don't like it when genders are generalised. It's the entire basis for patriarchy theory (which I hate), which is a subset of collectivism (which I also hate).
/r/MensRights24/07/21 07:22 AM
5

Good riddance. There's no point having misandrists in the Men's Rights Movement.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 07:20 AM
5

Right, because no mass protests means feminists don't oppose building men's shelters, right?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 07:17 AM
3

Flat earth isn’t an opinion, it’s a mistaken belief. Read the dictionary and you'll see how wrong your opinion is. Opinions don't have to be right to be considered opinions. Feminism is literally women’s rights. Dishonest equivocation of two things that aren't equal. Not the first time this has happened. Maybe this will finally go through to your head. I’m not wound collecting... Yes you are. You call us lying hateful misogynists and then play victim ("cyberbullying") when we get angry at you fo…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 07:11 AM
2

I did not once generalise a gender. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. What's my problem with generalising a gender? Seriously? That's a question that needs to be asked?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:52 AM
4

Like I said, moving the goalposts. Bomb threats aren't enough for you.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:50 AM
5

How can an opinion be wrong? An opinion is wrong like, "The earth is flat." is wrong. It isn't. An opinion is wrong like, "I think white supremacists love black people." is wrong. They don't. How can I be both a feminist and a man if feminists hate men? Like this. The guy just accepts collective guilt. Why do you think women’s rights activists hate men, but don’t think men’s rights activists hate women? And now you're falsely equivocating feminism with women's rights to slander anyone who oppose…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:35 AM
9

Here's the idiot feminist equating anti-feminism with misogyny.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:22 AM
3

People in this comment section have given you plenty of links, including me. You just ignored them and continued to call us liars, or moved the goalpost ("Those weren't mass protests." as if that somehow means feminists don't oppose building male shelters.)
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:20 AM
7

"Grow up" says the manchild playing victim every single time someone responds to his slander.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:18 AM
22

Feminists are the ones putting men down.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:17 AM
12

You're one to talk about "good faith" after treating all men like evil oppressors.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:16 AM
1

What in the fuck are you talking about? You just strung a bunch of words together to create nonsense.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:14 AM
7

Oh please. That tactic is used way too commonly by feminists like you. "I like those MRAs that aren't misogynists." as if opposing feminism makes one a misogynist. Your opinion is wrong, and that's that. Feminists oppose men, and your moral grandstanding won't change that. You don't even deny that you spent zero time actually reading my proof. You just went, "I have the right to have a wrong opinion." "All you've done is insult me." Astronomical levels of projection here.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 06:09 AM
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You are clearly slandering the Men's Rights Movement as a bunch of hateful misogynists. I've backed up my claims. You just ignore them and respond that my proof isn't enough, as evidenced by how little time you actually spent reading them. You call me a lying hateful misogynist and then play victim when I get mad at you for doing so. I'm not falling for your manipulative wound collecting.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 05:55 AM
8

You're one to talk about having a victim complex. "sToP cYbErBuLlYiNg mE!"
/r/MensRights24/07/21 05:49 AM
1

Really? The MRA movement advocates for generalising the genders? Then why the opposition to feminism?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 05:48 AM
8

Why do you have so much anger and hate in your heart? Says the troll slandering a movement that advocates for men's rights. You are a feminist who wants to make anyone who opposes feminism look like a misogynist by lying. And don't play victim after accusing others of being hateful misogynists.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 05:02 AM
6

Fuck off troll. I knew you would move the goalposts as soon as it was convenient. What, the examples of protests I showed weren't big enough for you? Erin received bomb threats. If you really were a DV victim, you would know not to gaslight her.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 04:57 AM
2

As a group? Seriously? After all men have been through with that "patriarchy" bullshit? Are you really an MRA or a troll trying to make us look bad?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 04:54 AM
7

Jesus Christ, clearly you didn't look it up. You just give me some vague indications that don't mean anything. I know you're a troll and will immediately move the goalpost when I show you the truth, but nevertheless here's Erin talking about her life. At one point of the podcast, she mentions how hateful feminists were towards her. Here's an article talking about the same thing. Here's Earl Silverman. When feminists do things like this, is it any surprise people expect more of the same stuff fro…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 04:51 AM
9

Just look up Earl Silverman and Erin Pizzey and leave us alone.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 04:23 AM
1

Where's the link?
/r/Male_Studies21/07/21 07:39 AM
1

Where's the link?
/r/Male_Studies21/07/21 07:38 AM
1

You're the one who brought up history. The post is about the 1800s onwards. That's not even close to ancient Rome.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 07:28 AM
2

I think you really need to read this post.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 07:02 AM
1

Oh, and also, you can counter the feminist's point about the sports pay gap with this, and the point about impostor syndrome with the fact that women are on average higher in neuroticism (source is in my manifesto), so that doesn't necessarily mean they're discouraged.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 05:13 AM
2

This post was meant for people like you.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 05:10 AM
6

Most of the time, there is an audience watching. That's the real target.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 05:01 PM
0

I don't mind making enemies. You did state that you aren't anti-feminist (pic 5), that's why I gave the word of caution. Right, but it's going to take a while. I assume you could just copy and paste the text, no?
/r/MensRights16/07/21 04:59 PM
2

Well, according to Dr. Warren Farrell, women make up the majority of consumer decisions, so that picture isn't entirely accurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/21 12:07 PM
3

I suggest you refer my manifesto if the feminist in question continues to victim blame men via "patriarchy". A word of caution: It is explicitly anti-feminist. If you don't want to make enemies, you can just use my sources without directly showing my post to her(?). Also, can you just post all your sources here? It'd be really tedious to type the URLs while referring to the screenshots.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 12:02 PM
4

Well, you see, those anti-suffragette women were brainwashed by the patriarchy. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 01:37 PM
2

And here is the bullshit excuse! Clearly you are either so fucking retarded that you can't infer that someone who doesn't treat women with dignity is a misogynist, or you're a troll who doesn't want to have an actual discussion. Pretty sure I know which one it is.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 04:38 AM
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If you support womens rights then that makes you a feminist. [Feminism] is a point of philosophical positioning where you can either be feminist or anti feminist with the basis for differentiating between the two being whether or not you support treating women with dignity. Ta da! Can't wait for you to make some bullshit excuse now!
/r/MensRights12/07/21 04:35 AM
3

What? I never said those things! Keep cycling some of my own quotes back at me until I like them!"
/r/MensRights12/07/21 04:31 AM
3

Lol sure. Most feminists are angels, right? That's why you hear crickets when men's issues are brought up in the public sphere. It's not like patriarchy theory is inherently misandric or anything.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 04:16 AM
2

Lol sure. Call every anti-feminist a misogynist and then retreat to, "Oh no, there are definitely valid reasons to criticize feminism." I don't even want to bother continuing this thread.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 04:09 AM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman Everyone's a feminist till it's inconvenient. Then they're a "pseudo-feminist".
/r/MensRights11/07/21 03:42 PM
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I never said I did. "You can't just criticize feminists like that! I'm a feminist and I totally care about men." "You don't represent all feminists." "OMG I never claimed I represent all feminists." You love playing language games, don't you?
/r/MensRights11/07/21 01:07 PM
5

Lol you really are an idiot. You imply anyone who opposes anyone is a misogynist and then retreat to the moral high ground.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 01:05 PM
6

Lol, you start talking about other countries as if feminists have never called first world countries patriarchies. You just want to cry "not all men" whenever a woman talks about the shitty things she sees men in general doing or something. And that's wrong?
/r/MensRights11/07/21 01:04 PM
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Lol, sure man. You definitely represent all feminists. Stick your head up your own ass.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 12:31 PM
5

Lol sure. Patriarchy theory has nothing to do with feminism, right? It's not like it was founded on it or anything. Keep being your delusional self, man. P. S. Feminism is a political movement. Meaning it is perfectly possible to criticize it and generalise its members (because they all have the same ideology).
/r/MensRights11/07/21 12:28 PM
2

Dr. Warren Farrell also has talked about this.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 11:52 AM
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Because if people who adopt the label act a certain way you don't like (PETA being animal killers), then you have every right not to associate with it.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 11:35 AM
1

Do you have a TL;DR for that?
/r/MensRights10/07/21 03:31 PM
10

Now you change the topic, instead of having a proper discussion. I'm not even gonna bother replying to you anymore.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 02:53 PM
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https://archive.ph/ZbziA https://archive.ph/qiLAC https://archive.ph/LTVKP Shut. The fuck. Up.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 12:53 PM
7

Check out the kafkatrap fallacy as well.
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/21 10:34 AM
7

men need feminism. Men need to believe that they're an evil oppressor class?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 05:13 AM
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Blame patriarchy theory and traditionalist notions of female hypoagency. Both combined are completely fucking men over, because they see misandry as, "punching up".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 05:33 PM
1

And why are you being so vague?
/r/MensRights07/07/21 08:45 AM
3

You realise there are way more women's shelters than men's shelters, right?
/r/MensRights06/07/21 02:10 PM
41

Watch the feminists rationalise their mental breakdown over this with things like, "It's okay when we do it because patriarchy."
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/21 02:07 PM
1

!ShakespeareInsult
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/21 01:54 PM
2

external factors probably shape those temperaments. Well, according to this study: culture plays a negligible to small role in moderating sex differences in personality. So I'm guessing not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/21 04:49 AM
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Traditional women care about their men. Gold diggers don't. There. I've fixed the huge gap she crossed to come to the conclusion that somehow men hate traditional women and think they're gold diggers.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 12:54 PM
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Jesus Christ, I can't believe you're trying to justify abuse of men with your bogus patriarchy theory. 99% of men didn't have the "power" in society for the majority of history. Reading this and this would do you some good. I'm gonna take this conversation as further proof that patriarchy theory is anti-male.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 12:50 PM
1

You realise this is the exact thought process of the abusive woman in the story, right?
/r/MensRights05/07/21 08:27 AM
5

I've given two examples of the stories. Men in the comments are telling theirs. This didn't come from "thin air".
/r/MensRights05/07/21 06:50 AM
2

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.sYZafIYGAxav-ftLPREJDgHaEO%26pid%3DApi&f=1
/r/MensRights05/07/21 06:20 AM
3

Why is it always the men who are told to empathize? Why is it always the men who are told not to "participate in the oppression olympics"?
/r/MensRights05/07/21 06:15 AM
3

I'm sure there's a term for this. What was it again? "Victim shaming"?
/r/MensRights05/07/21 06:00 AM
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So what? I'm not even ashamed of it. I don't live in a country where 13 year olds bang each other for social status. I was referring to it in the context that I've never been in a relationship, so I don't have first hand experience of this stuff.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 05:01 PM
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What woke you up to all this at such a young age? It was actually encountering feminism in media. I researched it, was immediately disgusted and found this community going against it. Try not to get too jaded! I'm not a collectivist, so I don't see that happening.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:53 PM
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The problem isn't that the woman wants the man to do more; the problem is that they mock, berate and verbally abuse them into doing so. Not once have I seen someone speak out against that; it's always, "You don't have to appeal to his fragile male ego."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 04:48 PM
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I'm not describing my situation; I'm describing the stories that I've given examples of. What exactly is your issue? That the man wasn't doing enough to begin with? What do you think the solution to that is, if not doing more now?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:39 PM
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Wonderful. You want us to empathize with women, but show no empathy for men. You want men to do all of this stuff to appease women, but when I make a post outlining verbal abuse, you act as if the woman's feelings are more important.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:37 PM
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Wonderful. You want us to empathize with women, but show no empathy for men. You want men to do all of this stuff to appease women, but when I make a post outlining verbal abuse, you act as if the woman's feelings are more important.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:37 PM
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Wonderful. You want us to empathize with women, but show no empathy for men. You want men to do all of this stuff to appease women, but when I make a post outlining verbal abuse, you act as if the woman's feelings are more important.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:37 PM
8

Can you give me an example of a woman actually using the term "emotional labour" appropriately?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:33 PM
7

100%. I'd much rather look for a relationship when I'm a fully matured and independent adult.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:31 PM
17

Something like that. In a domestic context, however, it means the women are complaining about not being able to be overtly abusive, while being subtly abusive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 04:30 PM
14

Ah yes, because those are the only situations which come up. Nothing else. No sir. All those examples, and more coming from the men in the comments? None of those are real.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 03:21 PM
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Like I said, the definition has been stretched.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 03:17 PM
14

I'm just trying to get in the shoes of abused men, many of whom have already said they relate to this.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 03:12 PM
22

This is exactly what I'm talking about in the post; the constant mocking and berating of someone who doesn't learn things as fast or as well as you want him to. Also, you immediately moved the goalpost from "washing the kitchen table only with water" which one might not know, to "wash your ass".
/r/MensRights04/07/21 02:22 PM
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What the fuck? Talking about abused men doesn't mean I hate women. Are you projecting or something?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 02:05 PM
14

Yeah, I guess the intensity helps in that regard.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 02:04 PM
14

I'm literally a fat virgin nerd who lives with his parents. I just wanted to talk about the men I've seen the stories of.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 02:02 PM
9

People are fucked up sometimes. It's called generational domestic abuse for a reason.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 02:01 PM
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So not verbally abusing your partner is too much to ask of you? I pity the person who ends up with you.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:45 PM
36

Are you seriously trying to gaslight the abused men here?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:34 PM
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I'm sorry. I've never actually been in that kind of relationship. I'm just an 18yo virgin getting through college. I just wanted to make a post telling the story of men like this, and how women frame themselves as the victims here. Again, sorry if this is too intense; I wasn't thinking about if the people reading this could take it.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:03 PM
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Popular depictions in media also denied the gender symmetry in domestic abuse, so I wouldn't trust them on that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 12:13 PM
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Yet these women are considered victims by feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 12:07 PM
14

Your null hypothesis seems way too counterintuitive IMO. Feminism was founded on patriarchy theory; it is an integral part of it. I've already made a post opposing it and pointing out why it's not only false but misandric. Keeping feminism but throwing out patriarchy theory renders nothing left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 12:01 PM
10

Really? Is that how they treated them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 11:51 AM
3

"Why don't men open up more?"
/r/MensRights04/07/21 10:55 AM
1

She's the one abusing us.
/r/MensRights03/07/21 02:30 PM
8

How is this even slightly related to antifeminism?
/r/AntiFeminists02/07/21 05:27 AM
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Feminism, in particular, has always been extremely interested in the concept of false consciousness and ran with it from quite early on. Indeed, consciousness raising was, in particular, a predominantly feminist concept and spoke strongly to the need to develop a feminist consciousness. The views on false consciousness within feminism have ranged from direct imposition of male dominance (see also, masculinism) and female subordination by a literal patriarchy (not entirely unreasonably at various…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/21 04:50 PM
2

I personally always justify why I'm downvoting someone, even if it's only because I think they're stupid. I also don't think this is limited to this sub; it seems to be pretty common on Reddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/21 02:26 PM
27

Nobody is attacking you for simply existing. Yes they are, but not in the way you think. Once they yell their agenda at you, if you don't accept it, then you are immediately guilty. There is no neutrality in their books; you are either good or evil.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 09:53 AM
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First of all, I have no idea why people downvoted me. If someone has an explanation, feel free to speak up. Secondly, I mean that feminists constantly go on about how, "Men feel they are entitled to women's bodies." and they see any expression of male sexuality as a manifestation of that. That's what I meant by 'demonization' of male sexuality. Still no idea why people downvoted me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 01:40 PM
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Feminists: "Why can't you use good faith when discussing with me?" Also feminists: "Men systemically oppress women! Any opposition to feminism is purely an attempt at preserving society's oppressive structures!"
/r/FeminismStopsWhen26/06/21 10:24 AM
2

And hence the demonization of male sexuality by feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 09:32 AM
1

Here's an archive link to the post in case a bunch of paragraphs at the bottom get deleted: https://archive.ph/N8yS5
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 07:18 AM
2

Version 2, which has much more stuff than the first one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 07:14 AM
1

And where's your empathy for the men who are treated like monsters as a result of that?
/r/MensRights26/06/21 04:21 AM
4

Which is why a social constructivist view of gender, which feminists have, hurts men. Men need positive ways to channel their aggression, not a feminist preacher scolding them constantly.
/r/MensRights25/06/21 04:44 PM
5

Isn't that a left wing subreddit? I'm not sure they would appreciate someone calling out a feminist.
/r/MensRights25/06/21 04:41 PM
12

I made a post about when feminists use this line of logic. Saying men are trained to be monsters is just as bad as saying men are naturally monsters.
/r/MensRights25/06/21 07:03 AM
9

Well, you have to consider that men work the majority of dangerous jobs. So those dads really are "avoiding" family, only to risk their lives trying to provide for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/21 06:25 AM
1

Lol, not degenerating into tribal collectivism is apparently 'snowflake' behaviour by your shitty standards. You really are a lost cause.
/r/MensRights25/06/21 06:12 AM
3

Well, now you have a link to spam at them to justify yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/21 06:09 AM
7

"Smelly"? How old was she? Seven?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/21 06:08 AM
4

Yup. Such heresy shall not be tolerated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/21 06:00 AM
14

Let's see some proof to support those claims, then we can take down the whole argument brick by brick. Well, I've already provided evidence to the contrary (at least in the field of career choice); that there are biological differences in temperament between men and women, and those differences influence their choice of career and work-life balance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/21 05:15 PM
15

Blushes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/21 02:10 PM
1

Why the fuck did Reddit put this in my feed? Do they want to infuriate me?
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/21 10:22 AM
1

Can't wait for you to dismiss this as "Not real feminism."
/r/MensRights24/06/21 06:29 AM
1

Yup, just like how we should be wary of black people, right? They do commit the majority of crime, after all.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 04:43 AM
1

It’s illogical and shows a lack of concern for the problem. Absolutely zero justification for your bogus claims. I don't go around yelling at women to stop killing babies just because the majority of baby killers are women.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 05:16 PM
1

Well, I found this article on it. You can check out the comments on it too. P.S. I'm not American either.
/r/AntiFeminists23/06/21 11:19 AM
1

George Floyd. He's implying he died of an overdose (OD).
/r/AntiFeminists23/06/21 10:42 AM
1

Oh, I'm the snowflake, not you for demanding I just accept that men encourage rape.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 05:58 AM
5

Oh don't worry, feminists don't oppose men, they just blame them for all the evils of society.
/r/AntiFeminists22/06/21 03:25 PM
1

Cambridge dictionary definition: to force someone to have sex when they are unwilling, using violence or threatening behavior Look, I never use the term "victim blaming" which should tell you all you need to know when I say that you are victim blaming.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:47 AM
1

She's forcing herself on him and threatening him not to fight back. How is that not rape? How fucking dense are you?
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:05 AM
1

Listen, I’m an MRA. The absolute worst I've ever seen. You're much closer to a male feminist. There are lots of men’s issues that I think are problems people should pay more attention to. Can't wait for you to go the feminist route and blame men as a whole for them. "mEn'S iSsUeS aRe cAuSeD bY oThEr mEn." But another problem that exists is rape culture, which is mainly created by men. How about you stop blaming all men for the actions of a few. How fucking misandric do you have to be to think mo…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:00 AM
1

Still somehow it's the women who are victims of "rape culture".
/r/AntiFeminists22/06/21 07:33 AM
1

What about threats? The whole point here is that she's threatening him. That absolutely counts as rape.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 07:32 AM
2

OMG you are just a misogynistic, "Pull yourself up by the bootstraps." conservative!/s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/21 07:25 AM
15

Reminds me of how it's perfectly justified for women to complain about how the expectations placed on them by other women are somehow men's fault. If a man talks about an actual systematic issue he faces, however, he's participating in the oppression olympics. Bascially the patriarchy. Dismantling it will help everyone. On one of the top comment threads. So according to that sub, pointing out who has it worse doesn't help anyone, unless you're talking about how men as a whole oppress women as a …
/r/AntiFeminists22/06/21 07:07 AM
1

I'm hoping this helps: "In 91 (68%) of the 131 countries, men were on average more disadvantaged than women, and in the other 43 (32%) countries, women were more disadvantaged than men" (Link to study).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/21 07:39 AM
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Which gives social privileges and power. Not really. Disagreeable people can be plenty successful. The point of calling it a personality trait is that one isn't better than the other. Both agreeable and disagreeable people can have plenty of success in fields which require those traits.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/21 05:51 AM
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Oh, but the majority of robbers are black men. Surely that must mean black men are taught to steal compared to white men, because black women don't steal as often. Oh, and don't forget about Muslims. Surely they have a toxic Muslim culture, don't they? We must teach all of them not to blow up buildings. Muslims need to hold other Muslims accountable.
/r/MensRights20/06/21 05:43 AM
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Except the patriarchy theory says that the patriarchy is what harms men, also. So you gave up the facade of "feminists don't believe in patriarchy theory", did you? Do you realise how stupid that conclusion is? That men are either so stupid and incompetent or so evil, that they would do anything to oppress women, even hurt themselves? Idiots like you is exactly why I made this post. Also where does that post say men can’t be abused? How incredibly stupid are you? Seriously? "Lol men love to pret…
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 04:23 PM
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One of the top voted posts of the month: The denial of men as victims of abuse. You're not gaslighting me into thinking that patriarchy theory isn't the foundation of feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 03:44 PM
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They’re pointing out that rapists are usually men, because a lot of men promote a toxic culture. Do you think we should teach black Americans not to steal?
/r/MensRights19/06/21 09:55 AM
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Allow me to jump in: You are using a Motte-and-Bailey tactic very commonly seen in "wokeness". You claim to fight for equality. That's your Motte. Why would anyone oppose that right? Then you use the methodology of patriarchy theory to diagnose society: Men built an oppressive power structure with the express purpose of oppressing women and privileging men. Men are all guilty of oppression and need to turn to feminism to atone for their sins. Men need to be taught not to beat and rape women. Tha…
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 09:50 AM
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Yeah, I read a comment that said a similar thing. Great analogy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 09:42 AM
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Compare this to the "White Man's Burden", if you will: Men are savages, who need to be taught not to rape. See the similarities?
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 09:41 AM
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This line of thinking is very similar to, "The White Man's Burden.": Men are such savages. I must tame them. I know they are capable of not being so violent.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 09:39 AM
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Like I said, this is a pretense. They don't actually think men are good. They think men are savages, who need training.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 09:38 AM
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That's the essence of "toxic masculinity": "I believe men are capable of not being such angry savages, that's why I must teach them not to rape."
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 09:36 AM
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Nah, she's actually really polite. I suggest you check out her YouTube series called 'Factual Feminist'. It's really good.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/21 04:10 AM
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Well, radical leftists say gender is purely a social construct. The purely part is important. Social construct means society as a whole made up certain rules for a purpose. They constructed them. Like I showed, gender is not purely a social construct. That would imply a kind of blank-slateism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 04:07 AM
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Ngl, I was half expecting this entire post to just be: [removed]
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 03:56 AM
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emotional and social iq Those aren't really scientific methods. They're just a different way of showing personality traits like agreeableness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 02:06 PM
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Nah, tons of feminists think they're being perfectly reasonable when they say, "I totally care about men! Men's problems are caused by men and so they should use their male privilege in the patriarchy to fix their toxic masculinity!"
/r/AntiFeminists18/06/21 01:58 PM
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Seems perfectly reasonable, right? Feminists might use this line of reasoning to justify how they, "Care about men." Feminists fight for equality after all, don't they? As I will show, this is only a pretense. Feminists have a social constructivist view of gender. They believe that boys and girls are born with exactly the same minds, and society engineers them to believe certain ways. This has been debunked on a general level and at the gender level. Yet this view is still prominent in feminism.…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 01:40 PM
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Seems perfectly reasonable, right? Feminists might use this line of reasoning to justify how they, "Care about men." Feminists fight for equality after all, don't they? As I will show, this is only a pretense. Feminists have a social constructivist view of gender. They believe that boys and girls are born with exactly the same minds, and society engineers them to believe certain ways. This has been debunked on a general level and at the gender level. Yet this view is still prominent in feminism.…
/r/AntiFeminists18/06/21 01:37 PM
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Seems perfectly reasonable, right? Feminists might use this line of reasoning to justify how they, "Care about men." Feminists fight for equality after all, don't they? As I will show, this is only a pretense. Feminists have a social constructivist view of gender. They believe that boys and girls are born with exactly the same minds, and society engineers them to believe certain ways. This has been debunked on a general level and at the gender level. Yet this view is still prominent in feminism.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 01:33 PM
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Really? So a non-radical right winger saying, "Western civilization is literally dying." shouldn't be told to be more careful with his words and be educated on how the far right uses it? Seems extremely irresponsible to me. I say "radical leftist" because this sub is not radical. These guys are liberal left-wingers who know the shortcomings of feminism. I'm not going to attack the entire left wing because of radicals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 01:06 PM
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That's because they are completely clueless about patriarchy theory and the history of feminism. "Smash the patriarchy" is a call to revolution. There is absolutely no way that indicates reform. This video goes into detail on how the new radical left formed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 12:45 PM
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instead about being “good enough” it’s about not being “too” entitled or hurt. In some ways it almost seems more damaging because of that More often, it's about shaming men into being quiet when feminists say misandric things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 10:33 AM
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What other way of discussing double standards is there?
/r/MensRights18/06/21 08:49 AM
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How is wanting society to be completely destroyed and rebuilt *not radical*? How is straight-up revolution *not radical*? Lots of people saying those things doesn't mean the view isn't radical. It means that there are lots of radicals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 07:25 AM
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I see the root cause of this type of thinking to be gender blank-slateism. Until you address and debunk that line of thinking, people will continue to think that they don't have to choose between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 07:21 AM
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Have you ever seen someone who isn't a radical leftist say that gender is a social construct? Blank-slateism has been debunked. So has gender blank-slateism. Yet it still exists in the universities. Why do you think that is? Is it because it reinforces the politically correct presuppositions about "toxic masculinity"? Who do you think are the politically correct people, who say things like "smash the patriarchy" and "systemic racism"? If they're not radical leftists, who are they?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 06:32 AM
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Feminism was founded on patriarchy theory, so I made a post opposing the theory itself. Much better than pointing out how feminists do bad things and getting the "not real feminists" response.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 04:20 AM
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Well, he uses a lot of radical leftist talking points (gender is a social construct), so if he isn't a radical leftist, what is he?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 04:11 AM
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But they don't. It's somehow all innocent men's jobs to stop rape from happening, even though the entirety of the legal system hasn't done so.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 04:10 AM
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Does this do a good job of explaining it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 04:07 AM
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Lol that power move of putting a TLDR over the entire comment.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen18/06/21 03:52 AM
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I guess I'm more predisposed to it then, because my terrible memory means I can go back to a normal day after watching a few YouTube videos, like nothing ever happened. But then I check the notifications, and oh God there's like 50 comments under mine. I've started a war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/21 04:50 PM
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Oh, I'm sure the damage will continue to happen unless the vast majority of feminists (who know absolutely nothing about patriarchy theory and feminism's history) get off their arses and do something instead of going, "Don't generalise a political philosophy! You're not allowed to do that! That's literally the same thing as generalising an identity group!"
/r/AntiFeminists17/06/21 04:43 PM
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Too much talk about idpol diversity, too little diversity of thought. The usual response you'll get to that is the classic strawmanning of right-wingers. "They just want to say the N-word! That's why they want freedom of speech! They're trying to recruit people to the alt-right! Their ideas are racist, and they're trying to make people believe in them!" What's ironic about that is that those people are the types to support Critical Race Theory, which is just as racist as white supremacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/21 04:37 PM
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F ex: maybe I should watch this video to be open to other opinions, but I sooooo much don't want to do that! Oh yeah. I didn't either, but I wrote a response in a comment on this post. I ruined my fucking mood, but I feel more comfort in the fact that I didn't just keep myself in the echo chamber. Maybe you should try writing a response too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/21 04:34 PM
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Seriously? I've seen a few clips of this guy unrelated to the topic, and I cannot fathom why you would ever think that he is someone worth listening to. He does the same thing every radical leftist does: Assume that his opinions are the only right ones because he's on the "right side of history", strawman any and all right-wingers and never condsider any opposing side. You could replace this guy with the average twitter user and you would get the same result. Edit: Watching the video right now, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/21 01:32 PM
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Yeah, I don't understand why she and the likes of Dr. Warren Farrell will never change their minds on how Feminism is this angelic concept that got corrupted. Patriarchy theory has always been a part of feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists17/06/21 12:22 PM
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No idea why likes and comments aren't allowed. She talks about how feminism was going down a radical route all the way back in the 1980's. Although I would argue that that was really just Feminism showing its true colours, she still gives some great insight.
/r/AntiFeminists17/06/21 12:18 PM
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Well, you see... you're not allowed to tell feminists to take anything into their own hands, because women are strong and independent, while simultaneously needing everyone around them to walk on eggshells so as to not offend their sensibilities.
/r/AntiFeminists17/06/21 10:14 AM
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they get annoyed by the “not all men line” because that misses the point and shows no concern for the problems they’re trying to talk about How about they stop expecting us to have empathy for people who don't give a shit about us? There are so many comments talking about how feminists gaslight and use Motte-and-Bailey tactics, and the best any feminist will do about it is go, "Most feminists aren't like that." (The sheer irony in feminism invoking the "not all" principle). They'll never actuall…
/r/MensRights16/06/21 03:56 AM
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The beauty of this conversation is that it exists online for everyone to see. Just from argumentative tactics alone, one side comes off as terrible and this will lead fewer people to identify themselves with that side and to be more critical of the claims that side makes. Or they'll dismiss her as, "Not a real feminist.", and then continue to talk exactly like her but without any obvious instances of misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/21 03:45 AM
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We're talking about feminists, not women in general.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 08:33 AM
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That doesn't mean it's somehow not allowed to make jokes.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 07:47 AM
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Oh yeah.
/r/AntiFeminists13/06/21 04:27 PM
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"We need a reform of the education system." as if the amount of propaganda already there isn't enough.
/r/AntiFeminists13/06/21 03:20 PM
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Oh, they know. That's why they say, "Teach men not to rape." They want to generalise men.
/r/AntiFeminists13/06/21 12:08 PM
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"They're an insignificant minority!" Bitch why does it have 2.4k upvotes then?
/r/FeminismStopsWhen13/06/21 12:07 PM
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The second video I sent you has two feminists talking about how radical their movement has become in the year 1997. It's only gotten worse from then. Here's the exact same feminists talking 21 years later: https://youtu.be/iv7LvRhvgNI How you can look at this and go, "Yeah, but that's like, your opinion, man." is beyond me. I completely ignored the video itself, I didn't play it in the first place. I have my own mind and life experiences and everyone has their own. Sounds like you will never mak…
/r/MensRights13/06/21 11:37 AM
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If she's such an insignificant minority, why has this been going on for decades? https://youtu.be/zDh4ZtMXwTs If that was the case, both those women wouldn't be outcasts today. You also completely ignored the bias and hostility of the crowd and host. There wasn't just one feminist in the room.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 08:03 AM
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Nah, as evidenced by their actions, it's more like, "Men need to fix women's issues." "Women have problems, men are problems."
/r/FeminismStopsWhen13/06/21 07:27 AM
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How about you hear a feminist herself use the words, "Wilfully ignorant."? I can't bother finding the timestamp but IMO you should watch the entire thing regardless.
/r/MensRights12/06/21 04:52 PM
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It's gaslighting IMO, with a hint of Motte-and-Bailey tactics. "All men are potential rapists! Teach men not to rape!" "Not all men! Stop generalising us!" "OMG you misogynist! No one is generalising men! If you can't address the real issue of rape culture, then you are part of the problem! We just want women to speak up about their lived experiences!"
/r/MensRights12/06/21 04:47 PM
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It appears that people on this sub have no sense of humour, as evidenced by the downvotes.
/r/MensRights12/06/21 04:43 PM
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Surely she realizes how crazy this sounds. I highly doubt that. She's indoctrinated. She doesn't care how contradictory or misandric she's being; after all, she's on the right side of history, fighting against the oppressive patriarchy and white supremacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 03:18 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 02:18 PM
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Also wdym they don’t matter, isn’t this important for you point that most feminist are misandrist and want to harm men therefore it’s like a the Nazi party or something? I've already described why they don't matter. The ones that actually write feminist theory and do all the other political stuff do, because their actions are the only ones that have actual impact. There are feminists that go, "Masculinity itself is the problem." There are tons of misandric feminists. This video goes in depth on …
/r/AntiFeminists11/06/21 12:10 PM
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Nice one.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:45 AM
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I said "misandric ideology" because feminism and patriarchy theory are misandric. Not because of, "toxicly masculine" men, as you implied. We can’t keep trying to rectify the past with passivity. This gives me strong, "If you're not with us, you're against us." vibes.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:43 AM
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What I'm saying is that those feminists don't matter. The vast majority of feminists don't know shit about patriarchy theory and the history of feminism. They are not political activists. They do not influence law or policies. They just virtue signal on social media. They don't matter. Can you stop pretending that those are the people I'm attacking when I criticize feminism?
/r/AntiFeminists11/06/21 11:41 AM
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Intelligent comment. Dumbass name.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:09 AM
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Do you think we should teach black people not to steal?
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:07 AM
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If we do that, we get the response of, "If you don't already know that, you're being wilfully ignorant. It's not my responsibility to educate you."
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:06 AM
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those statements dissmiss and reduce the movement into a non inclusive atmosphere. "Non-inclusive" "Teach men not to rape." You use that term a lot, don't you? 'Non-inclusive'? Of what? Misandric ideology?
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:05 AM
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When women are decent, good human beings, it means they are struggling because of the oppression of emotional labour. When men are decent, good human beings, it means they deserve zero appreciation and are only doing the bare minimum. They need to do more. You can't make this shit up.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 10:57 AM
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Oh, I didn't need to read the comments to see how incredibly biased the entire talk was, from the moderator to the audience to Roxanne herself. "Hating men is a perfectly reasonable thing to do." "Who cares about facts and evidence? There's a pay gap!" "Teach men not to rape!" "Language matters" except when it's misandric. "It's imperialistic to say, 'Look at that culture and it backwards ways.'" Except if you're talking about female foeticide. What a fucking hypocrite.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/21 07:48 AM
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No, seriously. How can you say, "Men built the system and continue to use it for the sole purpose of power and oppressing women." and not hate men? How about instead of using ad hominem and calling me "asinine" for offending you, you make an actual case for how patriarchy theory doesn't lead to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nx2orz/ridiculous_feminist_tries_to_put_the_blame_on_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/AntiFeminists11/06/21 06:45 AM
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I show you examples of SJW types and feminists saying extremely hateful things, and you call me radical. I don't know what kind of mental gymnastics are going on in your brain.
/r/AntiFeminists10/06/21 04:13 PM
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I really don't think I can even get my talking point across to you in the slightest. They believe that the system that white people built is bad, and they continue to uphold the system which they have so much power in. How is that not group guilt? "I don't oppose white people! I oppose whiteness! That's different!" (Their actions prove otherwise. Theirs too.)
/r/AntiFeminists10/06/21 03:13 PM
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Tons of self-proclaimed feminists don't know a thing about patriarchy theory and feminism's history. That information is deemed "unnecessary" as a condition for someone to call themselves a feminist. I say we make it necessary. Yeah, I'm quite familiar with Dr. Warren Farrell and the Boy Crisis. I'll find out about the other two. I've also heard of Camille Paglia and her "amazon feminism", but don't know much about her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 01:56 PM
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You really think anti-racists don't believe in systemic racism? That's incredibly stupid.
/r/AntiFeminists10/06/21 01:23 PM
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Reminds me of the "rational" wiki article on the MRM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 12:24 PM
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One more term I hate that's extremely overused these days is 'reactionary'. People who use it basically go, "Accept all my ideas without question, no matter how horrible, or I'll call you a bad word!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 11:59 AM
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Yo, liberal feminism sounds dope. Too bad they don't have much influence. Know where I can listen to some? (Excluding Christina Hoff Sommers, though. I know about her)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 11:52 AM
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But they can follow the same beliefs and just blame people who uphold the patriarchy which would tend to be both male and female, with traditional values and such. But men built the system, remember? Don't think their collectivism will just disappear if they have their way. Theirs no innate prejudice for men. It’s like saying anti-racist have a innate dislike for non POC. But anti-racists still say that white people built the system which has so much 'systemic racism', and white people have the …
/r/AntiFeminists10/06/21 11:50 AM
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Thanks! This is a lot to think about.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 11:42 AM
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No actual arguments spotted here. None. I can't believe you're actually taking the "predictable" route. Me saying, "Don't judge people by things they can't control." is just as predictable as me saying, "Human lives are more valuable than animal lives." Just because it's predictable doesn't mean it's wrong. I can also play the 'predict' game, you know?
/r/MensRights10/06/21 10:42 AM
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Is posting this on your own profile a way of avoiding having it censored? I guess. This sub has a lot of people who have similar opinions to me, so I doubt this will get me in trouble here. Not so sure about feminist subs tho, lol. I did it because this is mostly a personal project. Like I said, this is my political stance, so I pinned it on my profile as a kind of introduction to me. I didn't know you could do that and would like to do it myself. Just go to "My Profile", then click/tap the plus…
/r/MensRights10/06/21 10:36 AM
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http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf page 9 table 4. Men are the majority arrested for homicide. It's known that there is a bias towards women in court trials, but I don't think it completely disproves this. If you do think it does, show me your proof. If you can't prove it, then I guess by your own logic, men are just violent evil monsters. That's just fact, right? You're acting exactly like the people feminists think we are. Judging people by their genitals. I bet you're also a raci…
/r/MensRights10/06/21 10:21 AM
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You do realise this is the exact same strategy of radical feminists, right? "More men than women are physically violent, that's just a fact. From this fact, I will draw an extremely charged and hateful opinion that men are evil."
/r/MensRights10/06/21 09:31 AM
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Aaaand you just give them more reason to call us hateful misogynists. Either you are incredibly stupid, or you're a troll purposefully saying misogynistic things to make us look bad.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 09:16 AM
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I'm saving this lol.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 09:15 AM
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Just saying "fuck feminism" doesn't help anyone. Yeah, those comments are meant for people who know feminism's many flaws. Someone who doesn't have extensive knowledge of this stuff would be understandably horrified. If I could give one piece of advice to people who say things like that, it would be to know that this community has enemies. There are people who are all too ready to take what you say out of context and replace what your intentions might be with whatever they make up. So choose you…
/r/MensRights10/06/21 09:08 AM
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The men’s rights movement is just anti-feminist movement using men’s issues primarily to invalidate feminism. And what's wrong with that? "Invalidating" feminism doesn't make one a misogynist. They conflate, "feminism" with "women's rights". Men's systemic issues directly disprove patriarchy theory. I would be more than willing to help women's rights activists who don't support patriarchy theory and believe in equality of opportunity instead of equality of outcome.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 06:41 AM
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These are the same people who will go, "Oh, believing in patriarchy doesn't mean you hate men. All those mainstream misandric feminists? They aren't real feminists."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 06:36 AM
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So you don't think that feminists saying, "Men built and continue to uphold a system which was made with the express purpose of making their lives as good as possible and oppressing women. Therefore men are guilty and need to adopt our views to repent for their sins." is misandry? Men are by default guilty for being born a certain way?
/r/AntiFeminists10/06/21 06:28 AM
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I get what you mean, but if that is the real patriarchy, then we have much bigger things to worry about, like how 1 in 5 social scientists is a Marxist and the sheer amount of propaganda in media and "education".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 06:24 AM
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What name would you give it?
/r/MensRights10/06/21 06:22 AM
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Did you even read the fucking post? It has dozens of scientific studies cited and tons of relevant information, and you choose to completely ignore it and go, "Well, you've only ever spoken to one feminist." as if that isn't completely false? And if you ever do decide to read it instead of using ad hominem, go through it thoroughly. Don't just skim through it on a surface level.
/r/AntiFeminists09/06/21 01:29 PM
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How about *you* read up on "feminisme"? I don't care about normal people because normal people aren't political activists. I care about feminists. I've heard plenty of feminists talk (the kind that matter, not the randos who were lied to that "feminism just means you want equality of the sexes" and now virtue signal on social media). As to how patriarchy theory is anti-male, I've made a post about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/user/Hey_itsmeguys/comments/nv3ods/patriarchy_theory_is_demonstrab…
/r/AntiFeminists09/06/21 01:08 PM
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I can't be the only one who feels that the word, "oppression" has been diluted to the point where it's meaningless.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 12:36 PM
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Ok, thanks. I'm thinking about editing this after a few days of collecting feedback, so I would appreciate if you could tell me everything you think I can improve on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 12:06 PM
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Yeah, I could definitely work on sounding less aggressive. Do you have more tips on that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 11:35 AM
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And yet so many people just accept it as fact.
/r/AntiFeminists09/06/21 07:46 AM
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This post is also pinned on my profile, so I highly suggest saving that one if you're planning on saving this (part of it got deleted for some reason). That's the one I'll be checking regularly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 07:45 AM
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Because you're a misogynist?
/r/MensRights08/06/21 02:20 PM
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My response: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0wr6p7?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/AntiFeminists08/06/21 11:05 AM
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Pure projection. Feminists are the ones that came up with 'mansplaining', 'manspreading', 'manterrupting' and calling ACs sexist. They're the ones that get offended at everything including jokes.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen08/06/21 05:40 AM
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So you've proven to be a true feminist, incapable of considering any opinion that contradicts you, because it offends you so much.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 05:31 AM
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Well, I don't know what the best way to parent kids is. You'd have to introduce me to some studies. Dr Warren Farrel has been studying this stuff for decades. He talks about it here on his YouTube channel. I'm guessing you can ask him any questions you have directly: https://youtu.be/9vhA3cqJBQM at 28:25
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/21 03:39 PM
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Yes he is. "Women are actively working against men." is the entire basis of patriarchy theory, but with the genders reversed.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 03:32 PM
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You still haven't shown me an instance of misandry being called out on the feminism subreddit. I've shown the exact opposite. Who's the delusional one here again? Maybe is you saw the difference in how we handle misogynists and they handle misandrists, you'd have a more balanced view. The post you sent the link the one you thought the comments were hilarious just look back at those hilarious comments and what they say They say, "Women bad." They either have 1 upvote which they gave themselves, a…
/r/MensRights07/06/21 03:31 PM
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Come for me Nope. See your misandry. That's what I'm hoping they do.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:46 PM
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Now you're just spewing bullshit. I've used plenty of facts, you just don't want to go through the effort of doing research for once. I wasn't looking for things to be offended by, you shoved this misandric shit in my face.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:26 PM
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They do get downvoted. Here's an example. I'm the first one to berate him: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nuc7cx/why_is_twitter_so_misandrist/h0ws32l?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Now show me an instance of this happening on the feminist subreddit. I'll give you an example of the exact opposite happening: https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/nqlfnk/why_do_so_many_men_think_we_owe_them_laughter/h0bblcy?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:20 PM
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What the fuck, man? Stop generalising women, and stop treating 50% of the human population as your enemy.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:18 PM
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Why're you changing the topic? The video only shows men as perpetrators despite there being tons of female ones. This is then used to blame men as a whole, and that they need to, "Step up." You have done nothing to argue against that.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:16 PM
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Actually, I'm arguing with a feminist right now, and the dynamic is something like: "I care about men! Men should use their systemic power to end their toxic masculinity!" "Both patriarchy theory and toxic masculinity are inherently anti-male concepts. Men are systemically discriminated against and the solution to that is certainly not feminism." "Stop playing the victim card! You're delusional!"
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:14 PM
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K then.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:10 PM
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The video clearly says, "Men are violent because of 'male culture' and we need to hold men accountable. Did you watch the video?
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:10 PM
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Also, just in case, u/repostsleuthbot
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:08 PM
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My response: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0wr6p7?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:03 PM
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Oh. My. Fucking. God. You just want to enrage me, don't you. Why don't you show your precious male, "allies" this: Women are just as violent as men: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/lgvrsd/treat_the_issue_not_the_gender/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/jesu9j/domestic_violence_the_big_secret/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://problematicparrot.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/70-of-non-reciprocal-violenc…
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:00 PM
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Feminists will go, "Men need to open up more." and then use men not talking about their issues on social media to say that men don't have issues.
/r/AntiFeminists07/06/21 11:26 AM
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Every one calculates risk. What the fuck are they talking about.
/r/AntiFeminists07/06/21 11:19 AM
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You’re forgetting the men hold most of the authority in society not feminists... Oh my fucking god. You and your stupid, "patriarchy" can fuck off. Patriarchy theory is inherently anti-male. You don't care about men. You fully believe in, "Men cause their own problems so they should fix them." Feminists have been controlling the narrative for decades. stop blaming women for your problems. I'm not. I'm blaming feminists. How about you stop blaming men for your problems with your fucking, "Patriar…
/r/MensRights07/06/21 10:55 AM
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Even if it is in the name they are diametrically opposed. That's not why I made the comparison. I made the comparison because they preach that they want equality while believing that men are evil, the same way Nazis wanted the prosperity of all Germans, but not Jews. But honestly just because the mass say it doesn't mean they actually agree with it, I have talked to a few women who say this they almost always step back on it. Then I tell them about men problems and how it relates to feminist IMM…
/r/AntiFeminists07/06/21 10:08 AM
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It'll still take a lot to convince my pessimistic ass, though. I'll truly believe that when MRAs become the politically correct people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 03:36 PM
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A new study found that male-friendly therapists reject ideological beliefs about the patriarchy, and that such beliefs are harmful to male mental health patients All I have to say is: Duh! Obviously!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 03:26 PM
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Yep. I just tried to have a discussion with this guy and he seriously went, "It's not misandric to say men are worse parents." In this thread, too. Fucking hell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 02:48 PM
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None of this changes the fact that if you read the listed article, none of them have misandrist undertones. Yeah, they don't have misandrist undertones the same way Gloria Steinem didn't have misandrist undertones when she said, “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” Well if that's what the science says then it's just a scientific fact. FUCKING LOL. You have the same idiot mindset of the people that went, "Oh, the Thomson-Reuters poll said the US is among the top ten worst cou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 02:42 PM
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Noo! You can't just hold feminism accountable for its actions!
/r/AntiFeminists06/06/21 12:34 PM
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Would a misandrist say this? https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/are-fathers-necessary/308136/ based strictly on the published science, one could argue that two women parent better on average than a woman and a man The bad news for Dad is that despite common perception, there’s nothing objectively essential about his contribution. https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/06/03/what-are-fathers-for/when-children-are-better-off-fatherless Current research provides little evidenc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 11:37 AM
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Mainstream? Why you are certainly mistaken, incel! These are nothing but radical fringe groups that no one listens to ever and are not at all part of the feminist movement! How dare you expect feminism to be accountable for its actions?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 11:19 AM
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This one?: https://youtu.be/QTPExJOPjl0
/r/MensRights06/06/21 10:56 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I say demonizing men is wrong, and you manage to get offended at it and imply that I'm "invalidating" women by saying that. I'm fucking done. It's impossible to talk about men's issues without offending feminists like you. I didn’t scream BUT OHH IVE SEEN IT HAPPEN TO WOMEN MORE But you did scream, "Women have it so bad so you can't complain about men's issues." (seriously, you refuse to learn anything about the boy crisis. This is the third time I'm mentioni…
/r/MensRights06/06/21 10:09 AM
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Apparently, it's also an issue when men don't want to be feared for no reason. And clearly, you know nothing about the boy crisis.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 05:09 PM
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First of all, I don't think you actually read my comments. This thread seems to be going all over the place. That being said: You just can’t handle it not being about you 24/7? Oh boy, I can't wait to talk about murder like it only affects men (seeing how the majority of victims are men). Then I'll accuse any women who object of, "Making it about them." when it is about them (women are victims too). You wholeheartedly agree with me on this, don't you? Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleA…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 03:28 PM
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I suggest you read this thread to see her true colours: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0m4wtj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights05/06/21 02:04 PM
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I suggest you read this thread to see her true colours: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0m4wtj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights05/06/21 02:03 PM
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I suggest you read this thread to see what the others see: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0m4wtj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights05/06/21 02:02 PM
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I suggest you read this thread to see what the others see: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0m4wtj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights05/06/21 02:02 PM
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I suggest you read this thread to see what the others see: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nsb4ty/safe_spaces/h0m4wtj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/MensRights05/06/21 02:02 PM
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Ya ya whatever keep playing the Victim... You just proved my point about how you dismiss men's feelings. no one said anything about “special person day” literally so fucking dramatic so what ??? https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ns4h6m/womans_campaign_to_rename_fathers_day_sparks/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Oh really? U gonna go cry about it ?? Keep playing The Who has it worse game while more important issues are going around the world Word for word the quote used by fem…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 01:59 PM
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Ok what the actual fuck? I was reading the comments cause this shit is funny as hell, but then you show up with your misogynistic shit. So what if men have more upper body strength? So fucking what? That's the same mindset tradcons have when they call men weak for not defending themselves against domestic violence. You're peddling bullshit. What bullshit? That men and women have issues? I agree that OP really misses the mark in some cases but you're SO much worse. The entire reason I hate femini…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 01:27 PM
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I've lost all motivation for trying to respond to this post. I don't know how to prove to feminists that just because I'm attracted to a girl, doesn't mean I think of her as an object. I just don't know how.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/21 01:09 PM
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Yup cuz that’s idiotic a women wanting a divorce is not oppressing you they just don’t want to m date you... Who said it was oppression? I don't see that word being used in the post? It's someone being angry at sexism. Nowhere does he use the word oppression. "Men should open up more!" "I hate that our legal system incentivises single motherhood. I think everyday about whether marriage is worth it or not." "Lol incel." And those emails are sent on Mother’s Day too.. Which proves why he's angry. …
/r/MensRights05/06/21 01:06 PM
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unless it’s not a “question” but blatantly disregarding women’s issues and invalidating them.. then any questions is fine. Why do I feel like your standard for 'invalidation' is much lower than what would be expected? Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cringetopia/comments/nspur8/is_this_whats_oppressing_men_poor_men_i_feel_so/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/n8mxhs/why_women_why_do_you_want_divorce_is_mad_bad_dont/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 11:48 AM
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What makes you think that just because you aren't prejudiced against men, that no one else is? I've seen plenty of feminists spread hysteria about how the book is coming true and how we need to only focus on women's issues.
/r/AntiFeminists05/06/21 10:46 AM
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Can someone explain why they're downvoting this thread? These comments have nothing to do with you.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen04/06/21 04:18 PM
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I'm guessing they're talking about the rule that goes, "All posts and comments must come from and educated perspective." We all know what feminists consider "educated". It basically means agree with us or get banned.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen04/06/21 04:18 PM
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That's like saying, "Nazism is defined as an ideology that wants the prosperity of Germany, so you're not allowed to criticize its methods!" Patriarchy theory is an integral part of feminism, including all the implications it draws. It seems that you have zero idea of feminism's history. You just went with the propaganda. Here's a link that shows the real history of feminism. https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/d69ft4/heres_a_long_list_of_the_history_of_feminists/?utm_medium=android_…
/r/AntiFeminists04/06/21 02:05 PM
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I really don't care though. Feminism has a long history of working against men. Pretty much all influential feminists are misandrists. I don't care if you claim to be some Messiah of feminism, who will redeem it from the abyss.
/r/AntiFeminists04/06/21 01:01 PM
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Good bot.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen04/06/21 09:15 AM
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I don’t ignore that men have issues. You might as well, given how you will never ever act towards solving them, and your baseless ideology will compel you to protest and shut down any and all discussions about them with, "Women are facing an epidemic of rape, and this is what we're talking about?" Just stop turning every conversation about women’s issues into “mEn HaVe PrObLeMs ToO”. The reason people say that is because no one actually does anything about men's issues, and when people try to do…
/r/AntiFeminists04/06/21 09:08 AM
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Your rite of passage is complete.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen04/06/21 07:55 AM
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Oh yeah, the family definitely has a part to play in all this.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 03:24 PM
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Feminism wasn’t made to fight for every single oppressed group You are completely caught up in your "oppressor" and "oppressed" narrative. Take my advice. Shut up. Think critically about what you believe. Do you really want to continue having double standards when it comes to societal issues? Do you want to only ever consider the issues faced by 'oppressed' groups and antagonise anyone who brings up issues of the oppressors? Or do you actually want to work for the betterment of everyone? When di…
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 03:23 PM
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This isn't even the first time u/mensmod has said stuff like this. Just a few days ago he said something about how people who "generalise feminists" are using feelings and semantics, while he uses facts and logic.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 02:37 PM
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I have no idea what you should do now. IMO you are completely and utterly fucked. Guess if this gets worse you'll have to stay on r/antifeminists.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 02:35 PM
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Why do I get strong, "Those aren't real feminists vibes from this?" Mayhaps I should bring out the Karen Straughan quote? https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ Also, the whole group was created to address women’s issues. Then stop claiming that feminism fights for equality. Stop saying, "Patriarchy hurts men too." and insisting that the only way men's problems can be solved is through feminism. That's partly why feminists oppose so man…
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 02:06 PM
1

Good thing nothing bad happened then.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 02:03 PM
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Let's hope that luck stays for my final exams in a few months. Due to the coronavirus, the education board is considering scrapping the usual 70 mark paper with descriptive answers for an MCQ type exam.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 02:02 PM
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Bad news. u/mensmod moderates that subreddit too. I'm guessing that's why it was removed when I checked.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 01:41 PM
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Not a good idea to vote or comment on the though I agree. I'd rather not get permabanned for slightly questioning the feminist gospel Fighting feminism means denying them the time of day, What do you mean by this? Do you mean we should ignore them?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 12:44 PM
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Look at this comment. You're attracting the wrong men 56 downvotes on that. Why? Do they want people to generalise men?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 12:32 PM
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I'd rather not leave any comments on that sub at all, no matter how neutral. I know they'll find out my politics and perma ban me.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 12:30 PM
1

Did you try talking about this on r/MensRightsMeta ?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 11:03 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ How long do I have to see the same stupid argument again and again?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 11:02 AM
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Wtf? I swear I'm not stalking you. She's still stupid tho.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:55 AM
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Feminism just means wanting equal rights for women. How do you not see the clear stupidity in that statement? They say, "Equality for women." Because they oppose the notion that men have societal issues.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:46 AM
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my sister is a feminist and according to her my family is patriarchal What the fuck? Please tell me she's like super duper young and not some 19 year old acting this stupid.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:42 AM
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That's what brigading is. Sending people from one sub to another to downvote it. It's also against rule 3 of this subreddit.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:37 AM
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Hold the fucking phone. Did you steal my post? It's the exact same screenshot, title and everything. The avatar at the bottom is my colour, not yours. You couldn't even take the effort to take your own screenshot?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:20 AM
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Isn't brigading against Reddit rules?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:18 AM
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I made a response too. I crossposted it on this sub, because I knew I would get banned if I spoke against them. You can just see my post history for that. The comments on that post are really something else, though.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:18 AM
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I was banned from PMC for saying that there's no point in being angry and hateful.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 10:12 AM
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Hail lobster!
/r/FeminismStopsWhen03/06/21 10:07 AM
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The Internet seemed to be the last place left that wouldn't be censored by politically correct ideologues. Now that's up for debate too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/21 10:02 AM
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1.1k upvotes on the biggest subreddit for Feminism But if you describe feminists as extremely cynical about any and all of men's actions, the simps and feminists will say you're strawmanning them. Also, this is one of the comments: Similarly, when men refer to ships (and other inanimate objects, like cars) as “she.” They’re never male things, and with good reason, it’s literally an act of objectification. Reminds me of when a feminist said that words like perSON and woMAN mean that men are oppre…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen03/06/21 10:00 AM
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So what did you mean?
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 09:42 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/mfmcdm/while_conservatives_and_liberals_were_similarly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/kx2l1w/conservatives_are_more_likely_to_see_empirical_eg/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/jrma42/conservatives_tend_to_see_expert_evidence/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/hwdrie/political_ideology_is_shaping_individual/…
/r/AntiFeminists02/06/21 10:25 AM
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There's a ton of comments with actual arguments saying the exact opposite, so it's pretty obvious who we're going to listen to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/21 10:21 AM
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Isn't this the same thing as liberals saying all conservatives have low IQs, are old and backward and have tons of prejudices? Oh and also that they are brainwashed.
/r/AntiFeminists02/06/21 10:15 AM
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I have no idea what you mean by those words. Your comment sounds like complete nonsense to me, I can't discern the meaning of it no matter how hard I try.
/r/AntiFeminists02/06/21 09:21 AM
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Oh they're not naive. They're ideologically possessed to the point where they'll do anything to justify their narrative. The ends justify the means for them.
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 04:10 PM
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Your 'them' should be limited to feminists. Women can't change the fact that they are women, so hating them for that makes no sense. Besides, there are plenty of women who are non-feminists, and also anti-feminists. Karen Straughan comes to mind. Why would you want to chase them away from opposing feminism?
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 03:21 PM
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Will make a personal response as an edit to this comment later. I'm busy now. Edit: I'm back now, time for response: Rule 1: Clearly a strawman. I have never heard a man say, "She was asking for it." While only being misogynistic. The scum who say that also hold overtly misandric views. Also, I've heard plenty of people say, "She cheated on him. It's clearly his fault." Why do feminists never acknowledge this? (Rhetorical question. I know why they don't) Rule 2: Women saying no to men makes the …
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 02:25 PM
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This has the same energy as, "You slightly dislike my favourite celebrity? You angry hater! You couldn't possibly have a point!"
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 02:06 PM
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What the fuck, man? We shit on feminists because they hate men, and here you are, acting just like them but on the opposite side.
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 02:05 PM
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Photoshop the picture like that and post it on r/menkampf. Get yourself some sweet karma
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 02:03 PM
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For me, it's the accusatory tone. What do you mean, "Leave me alone?" As if I don't feel empathy for other human beings. It's the whole 'rape culture' and 'objectifying male gaze' thing all over again.
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 02:01 PM
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First step is to show them that there isn't one right opinion. Feminism doesn't show a complete picture of society.
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 01:54 PM
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But he's inconvenient to those people, so misrepresentation is their best option.
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/21 01:53 PM
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This is the ad that made sensible people hate Gillette: https://youtu.be/koPmuEyP3a0
/r/MensRights30/05/21 09:13 AM
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Thanks, man.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 09:10 AM
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Your rite of passage is complete!
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 08:51 AM
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I mean, that's your opinion, man. These people wanted them to take pictures of them but keep them to themselves. It's not wrong to trust someone that close to you.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 06:57 AM
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Nice post but I don't see how feminism stops here.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen30/05/21 06:22 AM
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Finally, not more victim blaming! Edit: And still in the comments, there's people going, "This is because men don't want to seek help. They want to keep their emotions to themselves." Ugh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/21 04:38 AM
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Don't tell me she thinks there's no difference between fiction and reality. Edit: Maybe she does. That's why feminists think porn encourages rape culture.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 04:32 AM
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But the uploading online parts aren't done with their consent.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 04:31 AM
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I doubt it. They're projecting themselves onto us when they say, "These people have never actually seen what feminists are like. They just see some bad stuff and assume that's the entire movement."
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 04:29 AM
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Well that's because the entire world is only misogynists./s
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 04:28 AM
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But if they do that, they'll have to give up the narrative that even first world countries are tyrannical patriarchies. And they don't wanna give that up, because it gives them power and righteousness.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 04:27 AM
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Just make sure you don't induce crippling PTSD in these snowflakes for showing them that actions have consequences. They'll unironically act as if an adult giving them (also adults) a little tap is enough to make them suicidal.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/21 04:25 AM
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She's spreading hate. That's what she's doing.
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 05:29 PM
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Weird how she chooses to spend her time browsing Reddit, while she could be fighting her oppressors.
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 05:25 PM
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I have little hope for politically indoctrinated radicals changing their ways. Maybe it's because I'm a generally pessimistic person. Maybe I'm justified in thinking that.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen29/05/21 04:35 PM
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Apparently all men are potential rapists and are looking for any opportunity to beat and rape women. Even though rape is illegal, it is still encouraged by our culture.
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 03:23 PM
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Yeah, about that: https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/nnlxon/men_like_bill_gates_dont_benefit_from_capitalism/
/r/FeminismStopsWhen29/05/21 02:31 PM
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Yeah, but feminism doesn't "stop" when feminists call non-feminists sexists. I don't remember seeing a feminist rule which said they would tolerate other people's opinions.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen29/05/21 02:29 PM
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I have absolutely no idea.
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 02:23 PM
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Sounds exactly like the top voted post of all time on that sub: All non-feminists are sexists. Also, a trend I've been noticing in this sub is that most of the time in these posts, feminism doesn't stop. It's just people disagreeing with feminism.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen29/05/21 11:45 AM
3

Why don't you just admit you want to falsely accuse a man?
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 09:46 AM
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Not worth it. There's no point ruining this sub's reputation doing something so temporary and which can easily be reversed.
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 09:43 AM
2

Well, akchyally abuse only counts when a man does it because word salad about power structures.
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 09:07 AM
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Literally
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/21 09:02 AM
2

It's a joke, man. I'm pretty happy and a grade-A student. You don't have to worry.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 05:23 PM
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No problem. I'm a no-life redditor so it's not like I have anything better to do.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 05:21 PM
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Seriously, even when she uses the exact words, "Slap me."? And it's a rule in BDSM to only cause as much pain as the sub wants to take. Another rule is to never cause permanent/long lasting damage to organs, only temporary bruises if she wants them. How is it abuse if it's not only consensual, but the sub explicitly asks for those things to be done to her?
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 05:20 PM
2

True. She acts as if that's the only misandry we'll ever see.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 05:17 PM
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That and also she thinks a woman who wants to obey a man and submit to him has, "internalised misogyny" and is a brainwashed slave ready to be abused by him. No other explanation can satisfy them.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 05:16 PM
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I think the dislikes are because: 1) She goes, "This is what misandry looks like." And then talks about men raping women, as if there aren't any other forms of misandry. You can look at the comments to see people's thoughts on it. 2) Saying that bad men exist is not an attack on all men. You can't just tell a criminal that crime is wrong and expect them to reply with, "You know what, you're right. Crime is wrong."
/r/MensRights28/05/21 05:15 PM
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It can be, depending on the context. I don't know what you mean by 'abuse' though, and what 'counts' as BDSM to you?
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 05:06 PM
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Not really, this is all done with explicit consent and boundaries are set well before anything happens (how much pain is too much, what safe word to use to end the fantasy play completely etc.). There's a bunch of preparation involved and it's all consensual. People make sure no scarring or permanent damage is done with the pain play.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 05:05 PM
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So, BDSM is a kink. 'In human sexuality, kinkiness is the use of non-conventional sexual practices, concepts or fantasies.' The B and D stand for Bondage & Discipline, the D and S for Domination & Submission, and the S and M for Sadism(enjoying someone else's pain) & Masochism(enjoying being in pain). The most basic description I can give you is this: Some people are turned on by the fantasy of someone dominating someone else during sex (they want to be either the one dominating or being dominat…
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 04:48 PM
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K then. Guess I'll have to spend a few minutes drafting up a post.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 04:34 PM
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Well, do you object to reading anything inappropriate?
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 04:32 PM
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Well then, Google away! I'm honestly surprised you haven't done it yet.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 04:30 PM
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Well first of all, BDSM is sex stuff (mostly) so before you go googling about it, keep that in mind. Also, I hope you aren't a kid or anything. You definitely shouldn't be learning that stuff if you're not mature yet.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 03:36 PM
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Do you not know what BDSM is? Or do you not understand something else?
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 03:32 PM
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Well those women have ✨ internalised misogyny✨.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 03:31 PM
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You don't think there's a line crossed between being on top during sex and killing someone?
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 03:30 PM
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How much control is it really if the person explicitly asks to be controlled?
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/21 03:28 PM
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Ironically, feminists are the ones who most commonly say that rights aren't a zero-sum game.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 02:28 PM
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And roughly 90% of men find the term hurtful and sexist... maybe these feminists could listen to how the demographic is offended by the term, and change the terminology out of respect? Narcissists will never admit they're wrong. If they do something and everyone doesn't like it, it's not the person that has the problem, it's everyone else.
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/21 09:43 AM
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You reckon they could’ve been a bit more specific? Saying ‘Indian media biased portrayal of the issue’ rather than in general, ‘women and feminists celebrate acid attacks against men’ Popular opinion is popular. Pointing out that it is is not wrong. Its horrible evidence, using one relatively rare instance of what is essentially a double standard, and using that specific Indian media example to overlook the much more broad social and potentially legal differences across the entirety of the non-W…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 04:19 PM
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That was sarcasm, man.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 01:11 PM
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Yup, everyone's a feminist until it's inconvenient. Then you're a 'pseudo-feminist'.
/r/AntiFeminists25/05/21 05:10 PM
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Yup, pretty much. My advice for OP, don't dispute them calling you misogynistic with, "I'm a girl." That introduces the false premise that what you did was misogynistic. Instead just tell them that what you said wasn't misogynistic, use proper evidence. This video and it's description have a lot of studies that show that men and women have different interests. Hopefully the guy you're referring to won't just burrow further down the rabbit hole and say that nature is misogynistic/the studies are …
/r/AntiFeminists25/05/21 05:08 PM
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No, I meant to my first comment. Why'd you butt in on something that isn't about you?
/r/MensRights25/05/21 03:34 PM
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Why are you even replying then? I'm talking about the people who oppose financial abortions.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 02:36 PM
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The first guy made a broad generalising statement that women and feminists would support acid attacks when they target men No, he pointed out how Indian media portrays men as villains when they're not. Then they said that this example essentially acts as a counterpoint to anyone who suggests women are disadvantaged in aspects of all non-Western society, not just limited to India Nope, it's a counterpoint to the existence of a 'patriarchy' where men do nothing but oppress women. I’m aware of the …
/r/MensRights25/05/21 06:30 AM
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Dora is a strong independent whamen who don't need no man to give her directions.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 06:11 AM
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Damn it Dora, the bridge is right behind you.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 06:09 AM
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Weird how you said nothing about financial abortions. Are you prochoice about that?
/r/MensRights25/05/21 06:05 AM
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And how does this align with your initial sentiment? The first guy points out how Indian women are portrayed as helpless victims of the evil men by the media (seriously. There was a story of a woman who murdered her family and was sentenced to death. Women are almost never executed in India. The media called her a "victim of the patriarchal culture that puts caste above all else. Not to mention Indian feminists opposed making rape laws gender neutral.). You then claimed that somehow we're the on…
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:42 PM
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Wow, it's almost as if these people don't actually care about men and just want to frame them as oppressors. But no, let's just keep thinking that these people are that stupid.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:20 PM
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The most ironic part of all this is that feminists are the ones who most commonly say, "Rights aren't a zero-sum game." Hypocrisy indeed.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:16 PM
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I would suggest keeping a pinned comment or something that explains how the radical left loves to label everyone to the right of them as 'alt-right'. They cooked up a theory that the alt-right is everywhere, so they view anyone slightly different from them as part of that group. Just watch the video, 'The Alt-Right Playbook - How To Radicalise a Normie', it gives you a clear vision of why they label everyone else as a Nazi.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/21 03:31 PM
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Just look at a bunch of their other posts to see what they're like. You can even start a private chat with a member if you please (just remember to put on your best rad suit first). Either these people are way too dedicated to a joke, or they're really like that. Something something Poe's law.
/r/AntiFeminists24/05/21 03:22 PM
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Saying that someone is oppressed implies an oppressor, in this case men. So yes, saying that women are oppressed and not merely disadvantaged in certain ways implies that men are the ones on top suppressing them. That's the broken logic, not that men are evil. One aspect of a single issue being gender neutral doesn’t mean that all other issues follow that same line of broken logic So you want us to continue to believe that Indian men all want to beat and rape women, even though it was never true…
/r/MensRights24/05/21 03:16 PM
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To only teach men, "not to rape"? As if pretty much all men don't already know it's wrong? Does it, "seem reasonable" to teach Muslims not to terrorise people, or to teach black people not to steal? Don't you think that creates a negative effect in people's mind?
/r/AntiFeminists23/05/21 10:44 AM
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She didn't say ,"someone". She said, "men". She actually thinks all women know everything about their bodies automatically.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen23/05/21 10:19 AM
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Then explain, "Teach your son not to rape."
/r/AntiFeminists23/05/21 10:13 AM
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fury towards women Seriously? Saying that men deserve due protection from rape through law is fury towards women? And yes, saying that rape against men is not a big issue that needs action is not just rape apologizing, it's worse. You know that a woman raping a man is wrong, but you still insist on treating it like a tiny issue that couldn't possibly traumatize a man. Edit: Even worse than that is that you call for men at risk of rape who can't get protection from the law to empathize with women…
/r/MensRights23/05/21 10:06 AM
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What? You think that people who think men can't be raped by women, will take a woman physically abusing a man completely seriously?
/r/MensRights23/05/21 09:53 AM
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Just give us the link so people in these comments can see it isn't fake.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 02:54 AM
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It's not dismissal. Saying that women are oppressed by men is dismissal. We're pointing out both sides.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 02:49 AM
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Oh really?
/r/MensRights23/05/21 02:48 AM
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What about feminists who opposed making rape laws gender neutral ? You seriously don't believe that people in India and Bangladesh (which are right next to each other btw) don't consider men victims?
/r/MensRights23/05/21 02:45 AM
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I think they meant Bangladeshi media, if feminism has made its way there.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 02:41 AM
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Do you think they care? They'll look at a single female fictional character beating a male character and use it to reaffirm their misandry. They're looking for any excuse to talk about how much they hate men.
/r/AntiFeminists23/05/21 02:35 AM
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Nah, it's completely serious. They hate men that much. Just see a bunch of their other posts and you'll get the idea.
/r/AntiFeminists22/05/21 10:33 AM
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"That's the price I'm willing to pay for utopia." is a guarantee the person is a psychopath. That's the same line the Nazis used when they killed 6 million Jews, the Communists when they killed 100 million people, and all the other totalitarian tyrants. No one who says something like that should be trusted.
/r/MensRights21/05/21 11:00 AM
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I think there was a recent news article actually trying to redeem her. I'll try and find a link. Edit: Can't find it. There was a post saying something like, "Valerie Solanas is known as the woman who shot Andy Warhol. Let's not discount her other achievements though". Lots of people were rightfully disgusted.
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:47 AM
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Political lesbianism has got to be one of the worst concepts invented by feminism. "Oh those men think because we're man-hating that we're lesbians because all they think about is sex. dUh! Let's actually hang around only women to piss them off!" They either are completely oblivious to a joke, think homosexuality is a choice or just hate men that much. I found a garbage video explaining the concept: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdUB7kfbO9I
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:42 AM
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good bot
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:37 AM
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I have never wanted a neuralyser from MIB more badly.
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:36 AM
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r/menkampf in a nutshell
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:35 AM
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Just give us a list of all these women's contributions so we have something to show when feminists say those were some kind of fringe group and are in no way representative of the entire movement.
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:34 AM
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Yeah. At least we don't go, "iGnOrE tHeM, tHeY'rE nOt rEaL aNtI-fEmInIsTs!"
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:26 AM
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Weird how they make being likeable a bad thing. Like, the reason those women are liked by men is because they're likeable. How is that a bad thing?
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 10:24 AM
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Oh God that's hilarious. A woman's history is irrelevant but a man's is relevant. Because patriarchy.
/r/MensRights21/05/21 10:11 AM
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"A woman's history is irrelevant!" they'll say.
/r/MensRights21/05/21 10:09 AM
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Should we get rid of abortion? No, just say that there's no guarantee that contraceptives work.
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 09:46 AM
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Who tf gave you a wholesome award?
/r/AntiFeminists21/05/21 09:44 AM
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Yall see a couple women say bad things and lumped an entire gender and movement in. First of all, 'woman' is not the same thing as 'feminist'. Opposing feminism doesn't make one a misogynist. Secondly, we give importance to that because that behaviour is not opposed in any significant way. The response is always ignoring it, saying it is a smaller problem than it really is, or trying to shut down the person who brought it up by going, "How dare you criticize feminism!" After all the feminist PR …
/r/MensRights20/05/21 09:27 AM
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Isn't that the exact same argument used against women? Just repeat whatever feminists said to that.
/r/AntiFeminists20/05/21 09:10 AM
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This is something I worry about a lot. Is it worth actually leaving my anonymity behind and taking action? If I do, my life might be ruined. If I don't, then I'm just another guy talking about issues on the Internet and not actually doing anything significant. I'm one of the guys used as ammunition against the MRM. "They're just bitter guys who don't actually want to solve issues."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/21 02:24 PM
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I'm talking about you generalising men, dumbass.
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 02:20 PM
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I imagine most women are disgusted being around most men and only put up with them to be nice. Oh really?
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 02:07 PM
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Oh my
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 02:03 PM
1

What if I told you it was the guy who made the video himself?
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 01:58 PM
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Why are you so cool with harassing women? Why are you so cool with being misandric?
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 01:55 PM
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Don't worry, we aren't feminists either. We aren't gonna ban you for slightly disagreeing with us.
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 01:53 PM
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Now this is what a strong independent woman looks like.
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 01:51 PM
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You'll be happy to say stuff like that until you're the one falsely accused. "It's better to let the guilty go free than to punish the innocent."
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/21 01:47 PM
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Weird how despite men being higher victims of violent crime, women are the paranoid ones.
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/21 01:58 PM
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Oh God, if the feminists get wind of this, they'll go from, "I should have the RIGHT to walk into dark alleys completely naked and alone." to straight up male genocide. While continuing to assert that women can't rape men.
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/21 01:48 PM
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I get that, but there are people using your trauma to enforce kangaroo courts and destroying the principle of innocent until proven guilty. Surely you must be familiar with some false cases.
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/21 01:45 PM
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Even before any investigation happens, men who are accused lose their jobs and are abandoned by everyone they know. It's guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion.
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/21 08:01 AM
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"But those are only a handful of cases." they say while freaking the fuck out if one man says something misogynistic. "This is a clear indication of rape culture!"
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/21 07:23 AM
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Context: The video says that men have died more in the pandemic than women because women are "more resistant to disease" than men. He then proceeds to call men the weaker sex
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/21 06:54 AM
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Do you think feminists would apply the same logic to misandry? They would say, "Oh never mind about THOSE people. They're just a small minority of 'pseudo-feminists' and there's no way their words have any impact.
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 02:50 PM
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If only they applied the same logic to #killallmen
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 02:48 PM
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Take my free award you comedic genius.
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 02:42 PM
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Actually, they do. "Speak before you think."
/r/MensRights16/05/21 02:25 PM
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IMO, I think the real first step that needs to be taken is publicity. Educate men on the issues they have. Show them that there is not only apathy, but direct opposition to people who bring up the issues, and the reasons they do so. Without getting this out of the way, we'll just continue to have simps and men who just accept their disposability.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 02:15 PM
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Not to mention the shitty 'journalism' about the MRM in general.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 02:11 PM
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Especially when they try to condemn male nature in general because most criminals are men. Don't you dare apply that logic to black people though, you white supremacist Nazi.
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 07:59 AM
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How tolerant and inclusive!
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 07:58 AM
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"Stop placing your UNREALISTIC patriarchal hygiene expectations on my natural body positive self." -Some feminist, somewhere
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 07:57 AM
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They're everywhere, man. That's the reason men that want to get away from them just leave society.
/r/AntiFeminists16/05/21 07:56 AM
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Not American but I hope supportive words can help: Fight the power!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/21 02:50 PM
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"B-but those aren't REAL feminists. REAL feminists fight for equality."
/r/MensRights15/05/21 01:22 PM
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You clearly implied that. That's not even up for debate. Also, your shitty mindset didn't go away in 35 days, did it?
/r/MensRights15/05/21 01:18 PM
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You realise those are illegal, right? There are still legal rights granted to women, not men. A woman can rape a man here, without it being considered rape. Not to mention the ways certain laws that carry no burden of proof are weaponised by women against men.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:43 PM
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Nah, Indian men are like that. Have you heard of, "How can she slap"? The men beat the shit out of a man who dared to defend himself just to gain female approval.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:31 PM
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See, this is the problem with feminism. Insisting that because women have problems, men can't have them. Only focusing on women's problems and when someone brings up men's problems, trying to call them a misogynist who ignores reality.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:22 PM
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Also in India, this: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/Activists-oppose-making-rape-gender-neutral/articleshow/15049606.cms
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:16 PM
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Not to mention the insistence that men who like shaved women are pedophiles.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:12 PM
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