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Lol now let's do this: "He's a shy 21 year old mormon who only ever had one girlfriend and lived in a suburban Utah city all his life, she's a 25 year old party girl who has supported herself being an "influencer" since she was 18, traveled around the world who has done drugs, had sugar daddies and a double digit N count." You got any cute labels to slap on the woman here? I didn't fucking think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:01 PM
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I love how the "age" is the worst thing you see here, but not the face tattoos, drug dealing and baby mommas. Like, if they were both 21 years old, but he is a streetwise ladies man and she is a meek church mouse who never left her home town, magically this relationship wouldn't be "predatory" because "no age gap? none of my business!" But add in the age gap and suddenly we have "muh power imbalance" Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:48 PM
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You're kinda just proving my point, none of those age gap relationships worked out. Yeah, I know this utterly asinine comment was coming. You know what also didn't work out? Every relationship with every ex you, me or any other person ever had. Shall I go into the stories of some of my exes who were the same age as me? Like the one who threw a plate at my head for not wanting to go to the park with her. Or the one who drunkenly punched me in the face when I didn't want to have sex with her one n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:43 PM
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You jumped right to the "30+ year old men who chase 18 year olds" straw man huh? How about "Men of any age dating women he finds attractive and that doesn't make his life unpleasant, which sometimes can be much younger women"? I've been in several relationships. 3 of them had very large age gaps. Of all my relationships about half of them ended up being dysfunctional in some way regardless of age. Let's review the age gap ones: Me 27 her 19: She had her own place, she worked full time, we lived …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:24 PM
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Things that give icks are difficult to self identify because you'd probably fix them. It's hard to find a woman who would say: "My pussy stinks" or "I have a terrible tattoo" or "I have a gunt", etc unless somebody has directly criticized her for this. I have a bald spot in the back of my head, and although no woman has ever directly criticized me for this, I'm quite positive it's given some women "the ick"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:01 PM
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she came out of it with a bad STD and a lot of trauma, he still tries to stalk here even today like 12 years later. I love how women say this, and then never mention how you could say the exact same thing about: - Dating musicians - Dating athletes - Dating artists - Dating snowboarders Merely because they "know somebody who dated [insert some type of guy they don't like] and it went badly" This is why listening to a gender that steadfastly believes in crystals and horoscopes is utterly useless.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:52 PM
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I wouldn't try to restrict who my daughter dates because then she'd choose someone out of spite. This might be the wisest thing I've ever heard somebody say on here. This person knows how to parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:49 PM
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Functional adults don't describe getting HUGS on dates as "put on the spot, awkward and icked out" for fucksake. Either grow up or just don't date at all. It's not the world's responsibility to accommodate every random anxiety riddled boomers latest "phobia" and it never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:24 AM
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If a judgmental Karen has male friends, no man will actually talk to her like she is another man and but rather somebody who they need to filter their actual thoughts and experience from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:30 PM
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You are on the outside looking in. You are clueless as to what those men are actually navigating in their dating lives much less their internal emotions around them. Stop Femsplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:26 PM
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And I'd prefer I make a few women "uncomfortable" than existing as a sexless simp. Ever notice how the men who worry about "making women uncomfortable" are the ones who never actually have sex on a regular basis? The best advice for timid men will always be to learn to risk being called creepy and stop giving a fuck about women being "uncomfortable". Women are adults, not children and can handle discomfort just like men do. Stay mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:44 PM
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These behaviours are present in all kinds of men Men being aggressively touchy is "present in all kinds of men"? No. Just... No. The handsy men are young and hot in the club and they are also old and fat in the supermarket Are you seriously comparing the frequency of some hot chad assuming his touch is wanted in a club (which is very often IS) to some weird guy in a supermarket trying to grab a woman's ass? In either case it is disgusting and women are usually disgusted Yes, apparently you are. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:39 PM
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You implied that a mere "hug" is enough to indicate sexual intent, confidence and interest. I'm telling you that's utter bullshit. It may be "a start", but it is by no means anything other than "Oh, he's not some autistic haphephobic weirdo. The reality is that men have to walk a balancing act of many (often counterintuitive) courting rituals while being assessed at every step by the woman they are interested in. The fact that women can't even bring themselves to acknowledge the difficulty invol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:07 PM
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they're more likely to go too far than not far enough. And this is still nonsense. "most men" are terrified of even holding a woman's hand on a first date. You clearly have no idea what the internal emotional reality is for men. You keep using the word "they're more likely to..." without talking about who "they" are. I already pointed out to you the types you are imaging, but then assigning collective guilt to the meek nerd who has no idea how to escalate. It's another example of women's toupee …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:57 PM
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Oh no you don't. You said: They're already generally more willing to do that than is wanted. Who TF is "they", if not MEN IN GENERAL?. You implied men IN GENERAL are "more willing" to get too physical with women with is abject bullshit and are now trying to backpedal and sort men into buckets as your argument falls apart. A certain subset of men are doing this, and in particular that subset is the type of men who are visible to women in the first place - aka attractive men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:44 PM
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It's not insane or hard to navigate. Oh good. Glad to hear a woman telling a man how easy it is to walk the line between confidence and arrogance, desire and neediness, humor and crassness, assertiveness and aggression. It's a cakewalk obviously. That's why we are seeing male loneliness and virginity skyrocket. Because it's so damn easy and no mixed messages are sent to men with the bow being that men are simultaneously told they are responsible for all the ills in society. ​ I thought OP walked…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:40 PM
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>I never said I'd recoil or act weird It looks like you may have edited your posted but you literally said: Super ick. But to begin with, yikes. I'd think he had poor boundaries and empathy. Maybe you can surprise me and be the (ultra rare) PPD woman that admits that YOU are the extreme outlier here? Getting "the ick" from a mere hug on a DATE (yes, even a first date) reeks of some kind of terminally online Gen Z brain rot and is not remotely how a functional, healthy adult exists in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:32 PM
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The issue is that women only see 2 types of men: The fat creep in a wide beater with a mustard stain catcalling and making kissy noises and the Chad who gets handsy with you on the date because he has a line up of 5 other women waiting to jump on his dick. What you don't see is that for every one of those men there are 100 men who are terrified of saying (let alone doing) the wrong thing on a date because of women's incessant whining about the first two types. So then we get posters on PPD telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:25 PM
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I wouldn't want to be hugged on my first date with a stranger. Super ick. whAT? Ok, Rain Man. How do people like this exist. I've never not hugged upon first meeting an online date among probably 100+ dates. If a girl recoiled or acted weird from a fucking hug the date would end immediately. What kind of emotional hemophiliacs are being raised in this generation? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:26 PM
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If there is no touching at all, I'm going to assume that we have no chemistry. If he is too touchy - as in too sexual - I'm going to assume he just wants to get laid. I love how we have an entire country of women celebrating the Barbie movie's "wOmeN cAn'T wIn!" monologue lamenting how hard it is to navigate the world as a woman - "we can't be fat or skinny without being judged!1!1" (which is nonsense, but anyway) Yet a woman can type out the above paragraph without once thinking how insane navi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:21 PM
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. They're already generally more willing to do that than is wanted. This sentence crystalizes the issue women have and their solipsism around it. They see men doing things like being sexually aggressive and suggestive all around them because men who are attractive can get away with this. The notion that most men are "already more willing to do this than wanted" proves beyond any doubt that women have zero clue as to how terrified, timid and apprehensive most sexually unsuccessful men are in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:19 PM
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Toupee fallacy. You only notice the bad ones. This is just women big up'ing themselves to propagate the myth of their "personality detectors"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:14 PM
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I said xenophobic and racist. Lol nice attempt at a goal post move, but you were very clearly addressing westerners specifically and how they are "not wanted there". You did not say that "Japan is an insular society with laws that make it prohibitively difficult to integrate into professional day-to-day life for all foreigners" You tried to turn this into a "Japanese hate white people!" which is fucking dumb. You're full of shit. It's such a common issue in renting that there are a great many bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:58 PM
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This kind of posting is fairly common in rural Japan. I'm guessing you either ignored the warning or they didn't want to trouble your wife. But they did not want you there. LMAO Sure, Jan. You say westerners are unwelcome in Japan then link to an image that includes OTHER ASIANS in its "no foreigners" mantra. (A Taiwanese person posted it FFS) But hey, I guess I'm just imagining all my friends from Osaka and Kanazawa whose houses I stay at whenever I visit, not to mention that I've worked for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:09 PM
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No. A fat man should not even try to date (in the west or anywhere else) until he is not fat. A fat man deserves to be alone. Now that we've cleared that up, saying "meet better people" in the US where the average woman is 5'4 and 175lbs is useless. Then we can add how bitchy, entitled, masculine, combative and twitter brained the average western woman is and it becomes no contest. Meet better people. Any more meaningless platitudes? "Meet better people"? Really? That's your answer? This is like…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:05 PM
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I can’t see myself getting with a woman who I didn’t grow alongside on my journey to maturity. Lol as if this "grow alongside" and "journey" thing is some kind of panacea. Just as often the woman "grows" out of you because you "aren't the ambitious man you once were" then swings to the Law Partner's dick because she "just doesn't feel that spark with you anymore" It's not about "growth" it's about compromise and cooperation. This "growth" and "equal partners" shit is a western feminist fantasy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:57 PM
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Women are the same everywhere Correct. So why would one not go where the women they are able to date are far less fat, bitchy and masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:54 PM
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Said by the same people who claim foreign women are desperate, ignorant "victims" or western "predators" when those same foreign women are often far more traveled and educated than the angry fat western internet feminists that want to "save" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:22 PM
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Option A: Get "used" for citizenship and modest amounts of money by thin, cooperative, feminine foreign women or... Option B: Get used for status, clout and large amounts of money by fat, combative, masculine western women. Damn. What a tough choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:19 PM
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We have to fight for a more equal dating market in our own countries, so men are not shut out of the market or keft with extremely unattractive options. This is as useful as saying "We have to end poverty and sadness!" I don't know how we go about doing that. LOL. So basically "Don't go abroad where your SMV is higher! Stay and suffer and fix things here for some future generation, even though I don't know how to do that!" sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:14 PM
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This is a great, balanced and realistic assessment. The truth is there are many different scenarios where his works out. I would however point out that none of these scenarios (not even the less palatable ones) involve a man being alone. In the west, that is becoming the most likely scenario for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:10 PM
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As a white American who was married to a Japanese woman for years, has been there multiple times, and has travelled to some of the most rural parts of Japan, you are utterly full of shit. The only people that gave any kind of negative vibe were people from the much older WW2 generation, which is honestly understandable. Everybody else was nothing but friendly and accommodating in every way. As far as working in professional industries there, yes, you sure as shit will need to score high on the J…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:47 PM
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Take a look at Glengarry Glenn Ross and yes, you'll notice how Al Pacino's character MOG's the shit out of all the others. He'd even probably shit on Baldwin's "Always Be Closing" character. TLDR; Start "Ricky Romamaxxing"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:52 PM
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Lol you are all over this thread saying this. This is the text equivalent of a kid plugging their ears and screaming "LALALALALALA!" You know, actually engaging with the point being discussed is also an option right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:09 PM
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Now we could discuss those, and those would be statistics, but Translation: I reject the statistics you just posted because they tend to back up the hypothesis that dating in the west for men is fucked, but I don't want to say it because it will nakedly prove that I am arguing from a place in which only statistics and experiments that back up my dug in position will be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:05 PM
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As I said, there have been countless similar studies that, when taken in total, lead to the same conclusion; western women are only dating "top men" (in their eyes) or choosing to be single. It stands to reason that match rates in OLD in western vs non western countries would reflect this behavior pattern of western women. But nope, it must be some weird mysterious bit of information about OP that he's leaving out that isn't "telling the whole story" It's the same thing every time an individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:56 PM
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The idea is the people have eachother. They are their own support system. Isn't that how a good relationship is supposed to work? You're also acting like we live in the 50's where a woman loses all touch with her family, as if FaceTime, zoom and text don't exist. Hell, my last girlfriend talked to her family in the Philippines more than I talked to my own mom who lives an hour away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:39 PM
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status at a younger age is different. Irrelevant. A nerdy 17 year old will have very limited options for "status". His status is largely based on things far beyond his control like his facial genetics, how much money his family has, or his innate athletic ability. A man in his 30's has far more agency over his SMV than a 17 year old. This is the entire basis for telling men that if they are an unattractive teenage loser, that doesn't mean they'll be an unattractive 35 year old loser. You seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:37 PM
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Tell the truth. There's literally no study, no data, no statistics, no story, no amount of men sharing near identical experience that will satisfy you. You are so dug in to your narrative and defending your "side" that you'd simply find some minor "flaw in the methodology" to dismiss what is literally common sense for men in 2023 - Men are struggling to date more than ever, and western women's demands for who they date are insane compared to those of women from other countries. We see this same …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:26 PM
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Why would they not be dating? Umm... they may get rejected a lot Yeah. That's why. but that doesn’t mean they aren’t trying. We're not talking about "trying" we're talking about actually getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:24 PM
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I'm saying one man, who used very general and highly interpretative attributes, cannot be used as an example on anything But you "one woman from Sweden who posts on reddit" is an unbiased and indisputable source. a Swedish woman who grew up in Sweden, lives in Sweden, are fluent in Swedish and studied Swedish social politics and Swedish law, I have a vastly different knowledge of Swedish culture than those of you who didn't. Oh is this how it works? Cool! Let's do this: "An American man, who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:21 PM
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I never claimed to speak for everyone, only the vast majority. LMAO. Oh, only the "vast majority", well damn, that makes all of the unhinged ramblings totally valid then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:14 PM
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People looking for a silver bullet to solve all of their relationship problems will never find one NOBODY IS DOING THIS. Stop with this straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:06 PM
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suburban city in the southeastern USA When you're 5'9 / 200 as a man, body fat percentage is a very important factor. Also, no offense but this part of the US is notoriously fat all around. Other than Miami, this region is largely a trailer park dwelling, bath salt sniffing, Mountain Dew drinking pre-diabetic wonderland. So yes, if you are a fat guy in an area that has nothing but other fat guys, you'll be able to date fat women. Try going to a place like the Bay Area, or any other place with at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:05 PM
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And the average American man is 5’9/200 lbs. Those men are not dating, nor in the market to date. The fat women are. A single fat man has no takers. He is basically shut out of the process. A fat woman is still very much able to date in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:58 AM
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The closer equivalent would be marriages between two people who are from geographically distant parts of the U.S. No, it wouldn't. You are contending that relationships are on shaky ground because the "muh common life experiences" trope. As if some resume of "went to school here, grew up there, like this movie, like this band" means jack shit when it comes to emotional compatibility between two people which is far more important than what pop-culture knowledge you share with your partner. This g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:54 AM
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By way out of their league I mean my 5'6 balding friend in his 30's only going after 9's and 10's. Yeah. Sure. That happens. Any other fairy tales you want to share? in my city 200lbs women aren't drowning in options. They don't have to be "drowning in options" to have an active dating life versus the man who you described who will have ZERO. They usually date fat dudes, You forgot "Also get banged by the drunk Chad at 1:50 am when he decides to 'go hogging'" to get a self esteem boost after get…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:27 AM
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I don't think western women are bitchy and unpleasant. Compared to Asian women, they absolutely are. Most American women are obsessed with being in an "equal" partnership rather than a "complimentary" partnership. Because of this, they tend to hen peck about every imagined slight and imbalance under the sun. "You only did the dishes twice this week, and I did them 3 times! UNEQUAL!" etc. (nevermind that I fixed the thermostat and the toilet). I've lived this. My American exs cooked well, liked b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:20 AM
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Weren't you just arguing how this relatively sound experiement's stats were invalid because it didn't have a big enough sample size? Yet you are using "Swedish woman here!" as some kind of evidence? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:15 AM
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Lol seriously? This is the best you can do? That tired ass "jUsT gOoOo!" snark? How about: "Damn, those numbers are pretty startling, I guess western men are on to something by giving up on dating in the US"? Nah. Got to pull the old sour grapes "we won't miss you!" card.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:13 AM
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Cultural barriers can still be extremely stressful for any individual to navigate alone, especially so for a woman experiencing pregnancy Oh for fucksake. I love how women demand a man be A, B and C (which they themselves are not) not but when men find a better deal outside of the west, suddenly it's courting disaster because you're not dating your clone. In other news, the same arguments can easily be made for interracial marriages in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:11 AM
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NY and LA are only topped by Miami in that category imo. What? NY has literally the most favorable Male:Female ration in the US. Comparing it to LA is dumb. Personally I'm a highly educated, high earning, healthy weight man and I found love in the states Here you go: 🍪 If you're looking for monogamy you only need to do it once anyway. You only need to go on one date to find the woman who just loves you for you? Wow. I didn't realize that. Guess we've all been doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:08 AM
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If there's one thing I've learned from PPD is that the "women are wonderful" posters will dismiss, disregard and hamster away any and every statistic and piece of evidence thrown their way as "flawed" It's like it will break their brains to believe the reality of western women's dating habits. Meanwhile, every man who dates in the US is wholly unsurprised by these numbers. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:05 AM
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Of my friends the ones who struggle are either unattractive and aiming way out of their league or underemployed The catch all here is "aiming way out of their league" But that's the entire issue. The west has a set up where a 200 lbs woman considers a man "beneath her league" because he's 5'9 and not ripped. You simply do not see this level of delusion in asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:01 AM
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how is it any different to a white woman in a Western country liking you because you're tall, confident and work a well-paid engineering job? It's literally no different. You are still being evaluated on what you provide to the woman. The issue is that, to many asian women, you are fundamentally higher value to them for a variety of reasons that are no more or less shallow than the reasons western women pick men. That's not even getting into how much better / complimentary partners asian women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:57 AM
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, I don't want to be in a situation where I feel like people are into me just because I'm "exotic" in comparison to local men As if western women don't objectify men for shit like career status, height, how good they look on IG, etc. Come on. I want to be loved for who I am. And you honestly think western women are the ones to do this? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:54 AM
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The average American woman is 5'4 / 170lbs "Controlling" for that doesn't work lol That doesn't even get into the combative, bitchy and overall unpleasant demeanor of western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:52 AM
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I don't know if it's purely a function of age. It's a function of a combination of things, but the most important is that I worked my ass off in my 30's to get my shit together. I focused on proper lifting for years, I progressively learned how to eat the right nutrition to see results, I learned how to style my facial hair, and how to dress for my body type, etc. You seem to think women value youth the way men do. Youth alone does not count for remotely the same amount when it comes to a man's …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:39 AM
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Man B also looked like this when he was 24. I'd actually say his smooth young "frat douche" looking self would turn off just as many women as his more 'rugged / sexy mature' version. He didn't suddenly become attractive to women with age. He was always attractive to women. So what? The point is to shut down this "uR oLd aNd gRosS!" mantra, as if there are no exceptions. The notion that ugly kid = ugly adult is also ridiculous. There is a reason the "ugly duckling" and the "glow up" are understoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:33 AM
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While I have no problem saying that JH really seems to be a cringey AF, mate guarding simp, it is insane that women will find a way to tell a man who literally says: "I am uncomfortable with X, please stop doing X, and if you can't stop doing X, I am not the guy for you and I wish you the best" Not "Stop doing X or I'll key your car" or "Stop doing X or I'll beat your ass when you get home" or "Stop doing X or I'll spread lies about you" no. The women skipping right over what an abject psycho th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:12 AM
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It is true if a man works towards being attractive. Why? Because men have to be made and that takes time. Confidence, career success, style, assertiveness, charisma, charm, wisdom, humor and even sexual skill are things men develop over time. Is there anybody here that's going to claim women don't openly value those things? We hear this every day when women talk about how "looks aren't the be-all-end-all" and how women want men who "add to their lives" etc. Even when it comes to physical attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:58 PM
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>I don’t think I know ANY girls in their 20’s dating men in their 30’s, "Women are not a monolith" Right? ... RIGHT? Also, I've been waiting for a post like this to show up (again for the 10th time this week) Because I want to ask y'all a simple question that will frame this argument in a much more useful way. Link to a photo of what you believe an average 30-40 year old man looks like. I predict it will look something like MAN A.. Now link to a photo of what a very above average 30-40 year old …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:32 PM
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But men don't claim to have a sexuality based on the "personality" of the person they are attracted to, women do. Men will happily admit to fucking a hot bitchy woman, women will not admit to wanting to fuck the asshole Chad, yet we see them do this day in and day out. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:42 PM
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Ok, but if you go to a high end independent escort who owns a house and Mercedes, guess what, Melvin the suicidal incel still gets arrested after paying her 2 grand. Does that sound right to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:37 PM
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why on earth do you people think WOMEN feel this way? Umm because they say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:36 PM
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. Obviously it’s still illegal to buy sexual services then, because it makes it possible for criminals to make money on forcing women to work for them. Ok, what about the large portion of escorts who are independent "service providers"? Your "trafficked / forced" scenario doesn't apply to them whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:35 PM
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Divinely good women would not be selling sex if the male sexual predator was was not manipulating her economic circumstances through the patriarchy to sell her body. You basically summed up over half of the replies in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:33 PM
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trying to get more national recognition by doing something "woke". Now, if California did this ? That would be a much bigger thing. This is a good point, BUT... The trend has been going in the direction of this shit for a long time, not away from it. I think socially / culturally the trend is turning the other way as people are getting "woke fatigue" where every moment of the day they have to hear about "privilege" this and "problematic" that, but the government and corporations are going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:31 PM
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Women =/= women who monetize male desperation and loneliness, rob them and play the victim while doing so. So how easy the straw man game is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:34 AM
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YOU are the one adding the sexes of the people involved This is like saying "sodomy laws are neutral! YOU are the one adding sexual orientation into this!" That being said, you’re also ignoring the point of all this No, I'm not. The point is clearly to find yet another way punish men and male sexuality. decriminalization means they can turn to the law for support and won’t be in trouble for doing what they’re forced to do Please tell me how ONE SIDED decriminalization is needed to do this. Tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:33 AM
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power dynamic Oh yes. The old "power dynamic" where a desperate man plunks down $2000 for an hour of high end escort pussy. Who has the "power" here exactly? The law doesn't apply to just men. And sodomy laws don't apply "just to gay people" And Crack cocaine / voter ID laws don't apply "just to black people" but you can't even admit WHY because admitting that some small portion of men is bad is just too hateful for you. What are you talking about? Men who beat up hookers are bad. Men who see hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:28 AM
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No, but being deliberately obtuse and obfuscating when you clearly understand the real point being made is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:24 AM
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. Aspects of male sexuality are very disgusting and shouldn’t be encouraged because it’s dangerous to men and women. lol nope, not misandry. not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:23 AM
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That's fair. I can acknowledge that in a service model that involves somebody putting their safety at risk all manner of precautions should be taken. However, simply automatically arresting a man for using an escort is not the right or fair approach. The fair approach would be to aggressively prosecute anybody who abuses / assaults an escort. We're heading towards a world where 2 adults engage in a mutually consensual act, and 1 person has automatically committed a crime and the other hasn't. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:21 AM
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If men did not feel entitled to women’s bodies, it wouldn’t be an issue. Please stop using the word "entitled" when you really mean "desirous of" Also stop conveniently ignoring that the women are looking for fast money with low effort and getting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:13 AM
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men want to buy the bodies of unwilling poor people? No one's trying to pay to peg your bunghole while you scream in dry pain. Lol, I dare any reasonable person to read this screed and claim there is no misandry behind this law. This unhinged rant is exactly the hysterical thinking that led to this law. Prostitutes are all "trafficked" angels and the men who buy what they are offering are evil predators. Then a chorus of "go girl" follow ups. But, sure, there's no misandry in the west. Nosiree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:10 AM
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It feels like punishing a victim...also if men stopped seeing prostitutes the prostitute market would dry up 🤷 makes sense to punish them first. Do you really want to run with this line of reasoning? Similar to how employers of illegal immigrants should get in trouble before illegal immigrants do It's precisely the opposite of that. It's more like going after USERS of drugs rather than dealers who take money from the addicts. The corporations are an entity monetarily profiting off of desperation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:07 AM
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I think by now we should have realized any 'disparate impact' does not count if those disparately impacted are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:04 AM
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Ahh, whataboutery , the lowest form of debate. Right under deliberate obtuseness and hypocrisy which is all over this thread. They are also trafficked by circumstances, like poverty, neglect, abuse and trauma. What kind of feminist brain rot is this? "trafficked by neglect"? Fucking really? Comparing women to illicit substances is vile and misogynist. LOL. Yes, whoever heard of women monetizing their sexuality by preying on desperate and lonely men? Literally never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:01 AM
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That's precisely the point. It's not enough to shame sexually unsuccessful men. It's not enough to shit on men and deem 80% of them "below average" It's not enough to shame men for leaving the west to find better partners elsewhere. Now we've got to criminalize them paying for sex while basically praising and helping the "sex dealer" who preys on his desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:57 AM
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women who are likely human trafficked, traumatized children from our country or other countries I know 3 escorts personally. Not a single one fits your description. They do however fit the description of conniving "hustler" that juices their tricks for every penny they can take. Real "victims" them. I also love how the subtext of this is that women can't possibly make informed choices about their own bodies. Western Women really do love them some cultural imperialism don't they? ​ We want to pun…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:53 AM
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Trafficking definitely still happens and is definitely a huge issue. Nowadays it’s just done more underground. People are disappeared and taken to remote locations to be purchased and abused by the ultra wealthy, distopian-tv-show-style. In the US? Evidence needed. Otherwise, I'll assume you're watching too many Liam Neeson movies. This is some Q-Anon level "pizza parlors are molesting children!" shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:49 AM
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It absolutely is gaslighting because we all know that de facto this law is weighted to penalize men while letting women off the hook. To sit there and say "Well akshually the literal text is gender neutral!" is indeed trying to make men think they are unreasonable for even questioning the law itself - aka - gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:46 AM
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I'm guessing you're too young to remember the crack epidemic in the 80's, so I'll let that slide but you are completely uninformed if you believe drug laws have beeb "neutral" Laws specifically penalizing Crack more than "white" drugs such as regular cocaine and heroin were on the books through the 80's and 90's. Guess which demographic this effected most by design?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:44 AM
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You can find reviews on gals, you cant on men. Then maybe prostitutes should come up with a system by which to do this (ie only take preferred / referred customers) etc If they don't, then that's on them. I love how it's ALWAYS on the man to avoid risks, and if he gets rolled it's "on him". But women hooking men for money with their pussy are innocent angels with no recourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:34 AM
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This is the same horseshit argument that led to rape being strictly defined as "a man penetrating" in the UK. https://www.image.ie/editorial/can-man-commit-rape-yes-according-uk-law-154573
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:19 AM
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even if they were there’s legal ethical options for them to buy sex. In the United States? Outside small areas of Nevada, where are these options?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:16 AM
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. Buyers have little to no risks and adversities from buying sex The number of men robbed by prostitutes should lay this ridiculous argument to rest. buyers of drugs are more vulnerable than sellers If a guy is a desperate incel or a sex addict how is he any less "vulnerable" to purchasing a drug (pussy) than a drug addict? sex work tends to increase trafficking in flow because demand rises Then go after TRAFFICKERS. But no, we don't want to do that because, news flash, the vast majority of pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:14 AM
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the average buyer has a much easier life than the average seller. Really? That's how we should make laws then? Who has it easier and harder should determine what is a crime and what isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:10 AM
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The only way to solve this problem is FULL decriminalization with state licensing. I mean, I think full decriminalization but increasing the apparatus for women to (without fear) report any abuse from customers would be a good start. IMO, that would be "fair". If this were truly about making women 'safe' we'd be distinguishing between some 'respectful regular' and a violent John, but we're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:09 AM
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This law is an end-demand sex work piece of legislation which criminalizes clients in an attempt to reduce demand for sex work thereby reducing human trafficking This is the face we put on it because the west has pathologies and virtually criminalized aspects of male sexuality. This is an extension of that. We can wrap it up in high minded 'protect the women!' but, considering the ant-male climate in the US, this reeks of "women good victims / men bad predators" nonsense. Again, if we were makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:07 AM
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Yes. You can be gay without having anal sex, and straight people have anal sex too. So you are going to tell me, that these laws are "neutral" because of this? Is this what you are saying? here’s no good reason why anyone should care whether people want to take it up their poop shoots I'm absolutely opposed to these blatantly anti-gay laws, but there were and are many claims made by religious nuts (both scientific and "morality" based) as to why it's in the "public interest" to have sodomy laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:03 AM
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they don’t want to punish people that are being trafficked or abused I honestly believe this "trafficked" shit is a hysterical bogeyman. We aren't in the 70's with "pimps and ho's" on 42nd street, but even if that is some rampant problem amongst sex workers in the USA, why not just go after the TRAFFICKERS then? Again, the subtext here is to criminalize and pathologies male sexuality while framing women as eternal victims in all cases. The law, as written, would allow some high end independent e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:59 AM
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Look dude, I was being "civil" with you. If I see deliberate obtuseness, I'm going to call it out because it's particularly destructive on a debate sub where we are supposed to be having discussions in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:55 AM
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t's basically saying that there should not be sex work, but acknowledging that those who engage in it are choosing to do it because of the poor economic circumstances that they've been placed in. Paternalistic "women are wonderful and and always the victim" nonsense. Imagine people ever saying something some patronizing and infantilizing as the above about a drug dealer as an argument to not lock up the sellers but go after all buyers. I know 3 SW's personally. They're friends. Guess what, 2 of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:52 AM
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In the same way that enforcing voter ID is supposedly race neutral? Forgot about this one. It's exactly like this as well. It's insane that the same people who would scream to the heavens about things like that and sodomy laws meet something like this with a :shrug: Gee... I wonder what's different about this particular case? Hmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:48 AM
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Sodomy laws. Address those. They are "neutral"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:47 AM
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Didn’t know men who solicit prostitution were a protected class But women who solicit men for paid sex are?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:46 AM
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Men are not being shit on, the behavior which is more likely to be done by men is being condemned. That's the entire point. Every time something like this comes up, we find a way to make it a "women good / men bad" scenario. There are already all manner of imbalances with the justice systems that let women off easy. But, now we're going to lock up the simp who has to pay for sex in an age where that is increasingly becoming some men's only option. We also still have conscription , but only for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:42 AM
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Wah wah we can’t do this thing that society deems immoral enough to outlaw! Wait what? This is the same argument made to make the SELLING of sex illegal. This is a 2 sided transaction. Either both things are criminal or neither are. In fact, the argument could be made that the prostitute is doing more damage as she could be seeing 5-6 John's a day while a customer might only patronize a pro once a year or during a dry spell. It's like not prosecuting drug dealers, but locking up people for minor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:38 AM
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Are anti-sodomy laws "sexual orientation neutral"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:33 AM
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Exactly. It's like arguing that "anti-sodomy" laws are like totally not targeted at gay people because "straight couples can also have anal sex and be prosecuted!1!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:31 AM
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Prostitutes have higher suicide rates, Oh for fucksake... Please Read addiction rates What about the wild notion that many many men patronizing prostitutes could be considered "addicts" themselves? rates of being victims of sexual violence Cool, then prosecute people who commit those crimes, not ones that use their services as offered. They do it for money and for lots of them there aren't viable ways to get out. Please, never, ever ask why people say "women are children" ever again. Imagine som…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:29 AM
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This is how women gaslight men and it's honestly maddening, and it's a GREAT example to use next time somebody says "nObOdY lIeD tO mEn!". You're lying right now by pretending this is "legally even" Why? Because you and everybody else knows damn well that the VAST MAJRORITY of sellers are women and the VAST MAJORITY of buyers are men. Tell me, why do we need a "violence against WOMEN act" if the law is blind to gender? It's another example of society coddling women, telling them they have no age…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:25 AM
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the sellers are exposed to all kinds of risks here and not the buyers I Implore you actually think about how ridiculous this statement is and reconsider your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:21 AM
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this is a gender neutral law. Lol and this, ladies and gentlemen, is what gaslighting looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:20 AM
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After being in the hospital for a week, and on all kinds of drugs during my recovery, my then girlfriend was keeping me company and Gladiator was on. I cried at the end (as I kind of felt like I had faced death a few days prior). It wasn't even sobbing, just tears and kind of a hand on forehead type of thing. I remember catching her looking at me clearly confused, lost and very uncomfortable. A few months later she would throw it in my face to illustrate how "weak" I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:23 AM
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if the group on average has an uneventful sex life, a person in it will make the fact that a girl glanced at him the main beacon for approval within the group, if the group has an active sex life, someone in it who ends up with a a woman who isn’t conventionally attractive will hide her from his group, for fear of scrutiny This still has zero to do with mate selection. Women are often attracted to a man for no other reason than beacuse other women are. This does not happen with men. No man is tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:44 AM
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Buy $1,000 worth of amazon stock 25 years ago would make you a millionare today. There's nothing comparable nowadays. Lol, let's just forget about stocks like: Yahoo Pets.com Webvan Palm, Inc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:33 PM
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It doesn’t matter whether a man has coovid or a cold; they come to a complete stop, whereas women just keep going with taking care of everyone else, regardless if they have the same thing. Translation: "I have a magic power which allows me to understand the severity of symptoms by gender"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:26 PM
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No, I'm demonstrating that women of all kinds (not just the "bad" ones) exhibit this behavior. Claiming that only "immature" women do this is a gaslight. It's the same argument that only "broken" and "damaged" women will chase the hot bad boy, even though all men have seen the book worm with the master's degree and the law firm partner do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:14 PM
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ITT: Women, all taking this personally even though this is a "men in general experience this from women in general all the time" discussion being verified and confirmed by just about every man in this thread. This is what we mean when we say women will "circle the wagons" to protect women's virtue as a group rather than coming to terms with any issue that might be observed with women in general. Men don't seem to have a problem admitting that men in general can exhibit all manner of shitty behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:10 PM
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I mean, maybe that's a part of it too, but a You should have stopped right there instead of trying to justify being a shitty human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:07 PM
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The ick happens because a man says or does something irredeemably gross, Wrong. You know it's wrong. Yet you're saying this anyway. The amount of things that have given women the ick is famouslyidiosyncratic and petty. Stop lying. I'll concede it does happen, because some women are immature. No true hamster fallacy. Women need to grow up and handle the fact that men are sad sometimes. Apparently they don't "need" to do jack shit because they are either choosing to be single or sport fucking Chad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:03 PM
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Being protective in an emergency doesn't mean men want to hear about the normal daily problems women have The solipsism hurts. You actually believe that any man in a relationship with a woman isn't expected to sit on the couch and listen to his woman gossip about inane shit and discuss Real Housewives storylines? Come on. y'all wouldn't be so quick to dismiss women's opinions if you were so "hardwired" to be empathetic towards all their problems. They absolutely are. WTF are you talking about. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:58 PM
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No they are roundly trying to portray men as weak for having the audacity of having debilitating symptoms while sick. They have no way of measuring their relative "sick levels", they are just going by feelings and vague nonsense like "we both have a cold" What if one guy had strep throat and a 102 temperature, while she had a runny nose and a cough? "We're both sick" is meaningless in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:55 PM
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there’s no bending over backwards LMFAO. punching walls and pouring your heart out on the first date is weird. end of story. I hope you're not smoking around that straw man. there are some women who suck and aren’t okay with men opening up You misspelled most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:34 PM
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Do y'all think women need to find a man sexy 100% of the time to ever have sex with him? No, but women famously will lose all attraction for a man (often irreversibly) if the man does something in her presence she deems unforgivably unattractive. Allow me to introduce to you to the phenomenon that women invented called "The Ick". I've heard women say how they "fell out of love" with their man because his voice cracked and it reminded her "of a teenage boy".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:28 PM
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Women who behave this way are absolutely the problem. You are seeing women in this very thread complain about "weak ass man" who have the audacity to need help when they are sick. Why aren't you chiming in and telling them they are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:26 PM
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so they don't have any sympathy when men have the slightest cold and act completely helpless. No, it's that they are primally disgusted with any sign of weakness in a man, but can't come to terms with this part of their nature (because it would indicate they aren't perfect angels) so they decide to play "victim olympics" in order to feel righteous about it. You know, Woman 101
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:24 PM
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it’s literally a nationwide problem that women’s health issues are often completely dismissed by health care professionals. Holy fuck. Is this the next frontier of feminism's invented grievance? Sexist air conditioners weren't enough I guess? And yes, women's health issues are "completely dismissed" I must have missed all those "prostate cancer awareness months" in women's sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:23 PM
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I think it’s just that men are conditioned to expect to be taken care of by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:21 PM
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I just think it’s funny that Ah yes. One of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:18 PM
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I like the part where you don't distinguish between a mild cold and severe covid and assume that "sick" just covers everything. We're talking about the same gender that turns into a blubbering emotional mess because "Jenny bought the same dress for the party that I did, that bitch is trying to destroy me!" Men go to work ice fishing and on oil rigs with a 100 degree fever. Stop it. And just lol @ portraying a fat, bitchy entitled western woman as some kind of June Cleaver type. Any woman in 2023…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:15 PM
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Women don't care about men's problems True. and men don't care about theirs. False. The vast majority of men are evolutionarily predisposed to be empathetic and protective of women. It's the basis of the "women are wonderful" effect. It goes like this: Men are protective of women, children and dogs. Women are protective of other women, children and dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:09 PM
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But, i’ve also heard these stories from guys and then when i asked for more details or was clear the problem was not being vulnerable itself, but the circumstances surrounding it. Of course. Let's bend over backwards to make women blameless angels because men didn't open up "the right way"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:34 PM
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You are what you can get. T Funny how the vast majority of women don't comprehend that what they can "get" is pumped and dumped by Chad. They seem to be unable to comprehend that just because they fuck a desperate hot guy does not make them a hot woman, nor does it make them worthy of a hot guy. Yet, we see countless fat women who "know their worth" because some Chad went hogging at 1:50am one night.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:05 AM
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You're talking about kids teasing eachother? You think boys don't get bullied for being skinny, fat, short, ginger, etc just as much? Stop it. It's 2023, not some 80's movie with an "ugly duckling" bookworm girl getting left out of the dating market. Once you get into the teen years and beyond, it's basically virgins, incels, short guys, losers and creeps that get shamed openly and everybody laughs. If you call a girl fat in public in 2023 you'll get crucified.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:04 AM
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In other news: Lizzo is Sexy Some woman being disappointed that she isn't the Victoria's Secret model that Chad wants != "I'm ugly", they really just mean "I'm too ugly to get the top tier guy I want" Put them out into the actual dating market and see how often they choose their actual looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:01 AM
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Lol by your logic some coal miner with "black lung" is "fit and strong" because he can bench press 350.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:39 PM
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PPD Women: "zOMG! Fat women can healthy athletes! They can also be sexy AF! Lots of men love fat women! Stop stereotyping and shaming, incel!" Also PPD Women: "zOMG! Old men are gross! Ewww! No woman in her 20's would ever date some disgusting, ugly, wrinkly man in his 40's! TeeHee™ " PS, Ash Pryor is fat and is likely a ticking time bomb of diseases. It doesn't matter how much cardio she can do right now. It's like those bowling ball shaped "soccer dads" with the huge quads and calves. They are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:35 PM
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So similarly I can point out that a lot of 'western men' are fat/playing video games all day/whiny on Reddit if We're going for generalisations of the opposite sex? It's not a generalization. It's accurate. Here comes the cold water though. RP specifically tells men to not be these things before they should even consider dating. Funny, I don't remember seeing TwoX or FDS telling fat women to even consider losing weight before placing their ridiculous demands on men. How are we undateable if we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:08 PM
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How much is that individual choice on the woman's part, as opposed to poverty/corruption and the patriarchy in the church conditioning her to act a certain way? So you're saying women's behavior is a product of their economy? Okay. How is this different than saying that western women have been turned into undatable masculine fat cows due to a western culture of "go girl" decadence and 3rd wave feminism "conditioning her to act a certain way"? we do it to free us from men so that we don't ever ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:29 PM
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"yes. Please go away" am I the only one? Or am I just too drunk No, just very, very unoriginal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:27 AM
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How is this different from a athlete or famous musician using his fame to fuck women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:26 AM
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Low effort troll post, but I'll take it. All women are similar in nature. But not in nurture. For example, foreign women haven't bought into this combative / competitive "I must prove I'm just like a man" mindset that western women have bought in to. Foreign women still understand the concept of 'complimentary partnership' (because men and women are different) while western women are obsessed with 'equal partnership' (because they believe anything men can do women can do better, and if they can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:15 AM
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After the fun time is over she will dump the fun guy, and engage in a relationship with some relationship material. You mean after she realizes she can't lock down the hot guy (because he has options) she decides to settle with an average schlub because he is a "safe" bet for her since he does not have options. "Relationship material" is literally a euphemism for "A guy that can't / won't walk away" because either he has no options or the girl has lowered her actual standards to the point she kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:14 PM
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What "evidence" is this exactly? You are merely assigning the most charitable interpretation to the data set that the least amount of inferences can be made. The fact that women rate the vast majority of men as "below average" is a very simple data set that doesn't require any interpretation. It's right there. The fact that women then turn around and message men they rated as below average is fully up for interpretation unless there is / was a study in which those women were asked a myriad of fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:53 PM
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So basically, we can only both speculate as to the disparity between women rating the vast majority of men as unattractive, but then messaging the very men they deemed unattractive. Your interpretation is that they somehow are compromising and settling. My interpretation is that they are going for validation, and the lower status guy who is less likely to have options and therefore more likely to be an obedient simp for her. We can let men who have actually date many women over the years decide …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:13 PM
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That's all cool, and I'm glad you are realistic about your prospects. I hope you can also make it clear to people who you advise to approach their mate selection in the way you do that it will likely have this same outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:05 PM
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It's really not. Oh, well case closed then. I guess we can disregard the countless times women have reported that this happens to them as irrelevant, not to mention the scientific studies showing the bio-chemical reasons for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:59 PM
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You're seriously sitting here arguing that women, by and large, don't "catch feelings" after sex far more than men do? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:57 PM
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Lol nice try. The disparity of 'messages sent' is likely women trying to cultivate simps and foodie calls. The sheer number of men who have experienced women doing this should tell you that. What's more likely? Women messaging guys they admittedly say they consider unattractive in order to get free stuff and validation, or they are really "giving them a chance"? The article itself states: As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:55 PM
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You spin plates at the cost of another Here's a news flash for you. All women "spin plates" by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:44 PM
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As a childfree woman obviously I want someone who matches the childfree lifestyle I have to offer. As a vegan, I obviously want someone who shares the same passion and interest in veganism I do. As someone with chef level skills in cooking, I don't want to be the only one cooking dinner for my partner. I want chores to be split equally. That's hardly unreasonable imo. As someone who loves long conversations about weird topics, I want someone who can appreciate all the little random facts I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:33 PM
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Oh yes. the gold standards of PPD comebacks. Along with "who hurt you" and "touch grass"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:55 AM
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Tyrone didn't count because it was only anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:42 AM
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Like if you expect your partner to be a great cook, you better be a great cook yourself See this is silly. Succesful relationships aren't those in which the two people are just clones of each other. It sounds like that's what you are demanding here. I am X, so you'd better be X too. That's not how relationships work, especially between men and women. Men and women compliment eachother. Women who have this "we must be equal at all levels" are generally going to be the type to compete with their m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:24 AM
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Is this better?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:00 AM
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Words mean things: How in the ever loving fuck can women not comprehend the difference between these two statements: "I want that Porsche SO bad! I can't stop dreaming about it. It's so beautiful! I wish I had the money to get it! Goddamn, it's so frustrating to know I'll probably never own one! Maybe someday I'll get lucky and figure out how to be successful enough to do it though." and "That Porsche should be mine. I deserve it and I will have it one way or another. I worked my ass off, and di…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:43 AM
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Oh, well, stop the presses you can shut RP down. All it should take is a huge simp to claim "it's a myth" to prove everything you've observed in your dating life wrong. Don't you know? According to White Knights everywhere, women are completely even handed and realistic in how they select their men. Especially the ones that they chose for hookups. It's not like we've ever seen evidence that women rate the vast majority of men as "below average" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:26 AM
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once tried out sucking off the cute guy in the back alley behind the club and decided it wasn't for her. But that was just that one time with Chad. It didn't really count because he didn't finish. She had to try again with Brad, Thad and Vlad just to be sure she "wasn't like that"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:25 AM
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Wait, do you think the average guy's romantic life is not filled with rejections and actually are enjoying the dating life and variety / quality of sex partners they actually want?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:49 AM
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So, basically you just read evidence that women indeed are prone to catching feelings with guys they fuck, but choose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:55 AM
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I am trying to say that they are trying to make change that helps all of us as a society, not just women. No. They are not. Modern feminism is concerned with the needs and gripes of women and is constantly inventing new ones. They have no time for trivialities like male depression and loneliness when they are busy crusading against sexist air conditioners. Point me to feminists championing prostate cancer research or addressing the fact that men commit suicide at 4 times (or higher) the rate of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:39 AM
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A key hormone released during sex is oxytocin, also known as the ‘cuddle hormone’. This lowers our defences and makes us trust people more, says Dr Arun Ghosh, a GP specialising in sexual health at the Spire Liverpool Hospital. It’s also the key to bonding, as it increases levels of empathy. Women produce more of this hormone, although it’s not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex. However, the problem is that the body can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:33 AM
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"friends" 🤣 The kind that need your help to move furniture, pick them up from the airport, or complain about their "asshole boyfriend" but the minute you need anything of the kind you get left on read until she magically reappears when she needs something again. Right. Yes, we know how those "friendships" with women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:14 AM
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the majority of women are going to choose long term partners they can’t stand simply because they are hot This, but unironically. The fact that you think this is some big stretch is hilarious tbh. What a woman will "put up with" from a particular man is very often directly correlated with a his SMV and ability to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:10 AM
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TRP is a hate movement and male power fantasy masquerading as advice. What is your alternative? We're still waiting. If TRP actually cared, they'd be looking at boybands, fangirl subculture and popular actors and e-celebs that are popular with women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:04 AM
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for starters we have the very cynical take on female nature As opposed to the ruinous "women are wonderful" version men are told to believe? I'll take the cynical version please. , ie. alpha windowing True. Women can and will compare their current man to their "best" partner constantly. They will let him know in subtle or overt ways the ways that he doesn't measure up when it suits her mood. Claiming this doesn't happen is a complete gaslight. Every man who has dated for any period of time has e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:00 AM
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Sex was taboo, and you were programmed to pedestalize women. Oddly, I grew up very liberal and was also raised to pedestalize women (ie feminist ideals / women are wonderful / etc) I never truly got any decent amount of attention until I hit the gym, became an aloof asshat with options, Same. If you could say one thing to a boy that women would deny, it's that "Having options, and having other women see you have options, will make you exponentially more attractive on its own." that being a kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:51 AM
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The majority of men don’t want to hear the truth and want to keep living in delusion. Imagining being so clueless you make this statement on a sub that is dedicated to discussing RP; an entire movement focused on telling men the truth about women's sexual nature. Maybe more women would be more honest if guys in general stop throwing a fit/stop the name-calling whenever they see a woman saying her brutally honest opinions. Ah yes. Women's favorite. "Yes, we were lying, but men made us do it!" The…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:44 AM
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Pushing back against society’s expectations of women and aiming for free**[SNIP]** So... Nothing. They've done nothing for the benefit of men. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:37 AM
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Women expect men to just take verbal and sometimes physical abuse without faltering. If a man makes it known that he's offended or whatever, he is shamed and called a pussy, unmasculine, etc This is so true it hurts. And women tell themselves they are "kind good people" right after pulling this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:34 AM
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Did you listen? Initial attraction for women is physical, but a personality and behavior can make it or break it. You're doing it now. You're gaslighting. It's not the fact that "initial attraction is physical" that confuses men, it's that initial attraction is mandatory and more importantly, it directly informs how much of the other elements are required (if any) Basically, the amount of supposedly attractive / positive personality traits a man must have for a woman is directly correlated to ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:31 AM
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Men willfully, systematically misinterpreted those messages. I love how misandrists like this happily pin all of the blame on 9-10-11 and 12 year old boys for "willfully deluding themselves!" by swallowing the messages fed to them by the women in their lives (and society at large) This is the same group that says a 24 year old woman can't consent to sex with an older man because "muh undeveloped brain" and say "they can be easily manipulated" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:26 AM
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My parents never told me to do any of that shit. Me either. I had very egalitarian hippie parents that derided such talk as "shallow" and stuff that "only assholes did, and you don't want to be an asshole, right?" My family loved how "fun, quirky and creative" I was as a kid and basically nurtured me to be an outcast from day 1. And I imagine most of us would’ve LOVED to have someone sit us down and explain it so succinctly. Same. While I always knew that guys that were considered good looking h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:23 AM
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you were not lied to just because no one ever sat you down and said, "women aren't generally going to be interested in a boring, unremarkable, totally average, nothing really going on" dude. I love how you say this as if this is an impossibility, yet is precisely what RP tells men in no uncertain terms. Maybe society should level with young men in the same way instead of the old the womanese nonsense of "You should just GET IT!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:20 AM
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Lol in this example the guy doesn't have a Corolla. He's not even riding the bus. He's hobbling on crutches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:17 AM
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Except getting trips to Dubai, free implants and 5 star dinners isn't exactly on the same base level as "sex and intimacy" on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:16 AM
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🤣 yup It's another version of "One day all these shallow women will grow up and realize what a catch you are!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:13 AM
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Find the woman who thinks you’re hot and lusts after you, live out your dreams. Oh yes, "There's somebody out there for everybody" Speak of the (platitudes) Devil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:12 AM
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Why do you feel entitled to this exactly Why do women have the seemingly involuntary reflex to hear somebody say "I struggle with the knowledge that I won't get X" and immediately feel the need to wag their finger about "entitlement" Who the hell said anything about "entitlement"? When somebody's grandmother dies and they say they miss her, do you get in their face and tell them they "aren't entitled to have a grandmother"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:11 AM
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You mean like how fat women demand "BBW Kween" treatment? Like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:05 AM
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Sure after a lifetime of brutal, soul crushing rejections and having their very identity ground down to a shadow, and finally accepting that you will be content to exist as a shell of a human being that never knew what it felt like to truly be desired. Then, maybe they'll get to be some fat chick's consolation prize. What a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:03 AM
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People who blatantly lie like that to struggling men are a disgrace This. It's the one part of the 'anger stage' I've had trouble letting go of. ​ When I hear people either out of ignorance or malice gaslight struggling men, it just makes me want to 'enjoy the decline' and go full nihilistic dark triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:02 AM
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now the paradigm has shifted into gaslighting men about how they actually haven't been told that looks don't matter. Egg-fucking-zactly. This is the latest shell game from women. "Yes, we do [insert thing RP says they do, but nobody else does] but nobody ever told you we didn't do that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:57 AM
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Lol. Yes, men. Please be an emotional Tampon so that girl you're pining for can tell you all about how Chad went ass to mouth with her, and fucked her best friend and is demanding a threesome from her. "Why can't I just date a good, respectful good hearted guy just like you, Billy?" (phone text alarm sounds) 1 Notification: Chad: U up? "(fake yawn) You know, Billy, I really should get going, it's late. We'll watch that anime you told me about some other time." "Can you give me a ride back home? …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:48 AM
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Yet, here you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:41 AM
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Personality matters little when a woman may be looking for a one night stand. Lol. Dude. Women experience literal chemical bonding when a man fucks them right. If the woman is letting the ONS guy fuck her and he does it right, it's game over. She'll begin to simp for him if not outright stalk him more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:50 AM
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No. It's both. I hate how women act like "sure, we'll fuck a hot guy but..." If you'll just fuck a hot guy with no strings, this shows something very important; there will be many strings, tests and disqualifies thrown up for a NON-hot guy. This is the issue that men see. You can't just say it's "just" for one-night stands. Giving a guy a one-night stand is indeed the highest honor you can pay a man. And the implication that a woman would find a guy hot enough to fuck on desire alone, but wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:49 AM
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No they don’t actually. Testosterone starts dropping at that age and in women it actually increases with age. That’s why men need viagra and go to men’s clinics for testosterone injections. Meanwhile, back the real world: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gross-testosterone-levels-per-gender-from-birth-to-85-years-of-age-Note-peak-in-newborn_fig3_340548509
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:43 PM
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In fact research suggests that women are just trained and shamed to not express it. Oh for fucksake. Stop with this. Nobody is "shaming" women out of seeing escorts in secret or viewing porn when all alone, yet we know that men do these things far more than women do. Let's not even get in to strip clubs. Do you honestly think Lesbians are "shaming" eachother for having sex? No, I'm guessing you don't. Now look at the sex lives of Lesbian couples (ie 'bed death') versus gay male couples. ​ I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:33 PM
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The sperm cells aren’t what’s invoking the sex drive.. it’s testosterone actually.. I majored in biological sciences.. Lol, ok. So you should be able to happily acknowledge that even a 50 year old man has far higher testosterone and spontaneous sexual desire than the horniest of women. A woman's sex drive that "sky rockets" is still not even in the same league as an average man's at just about any age. Why do people cling to this "muh both sexes are the same" with sex drive? I'll tell you why, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:32 PM
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delusional men they deem sexually undesirable. So, basically 80% of all men of any age? Got it. Reasonable men who are not delusional about their chances with servers. Again, WTF does this have to do with age? What do you think a 21 year old waitress would be more "grossed out" about: A fat 21 year old neckbeard trying to get her number, or a 35 year old handsome lawyer complimenting her?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:27 PM
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Or for fucksake, you're seriously going to die on the hill of "Women don't cum more when getting fucked by hot guys" hill? Really? In 2023? It's the "Muh sapiosexual emotional connection to good, kind, emotionally intelligent men" shtick again? Do you also then wonder why men tell other men not to listen to a thing women say about sex? ---- Several studies have found that orgasm rate is higher with more attractive partners (Andersson, 1994; Gallup, Ampel, Wedberg, & Pogosjan, 2014; Grammer, Fink…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:58 PM
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Then your flair is either you being "ironic" or you should consider changing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:54 PM
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This changes nothing. Your claim was Secondly women don’t orgasm because a guy is hot. That was shown to be false. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:46 PM
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No because it's literally a non-answer. It's not saying you wouldn't fuck him, it's saying "You don't fuck men you wouldn't date" Which leaves open the door to "If he dated me, of course I'd fuck him"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:45 PM
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No woman over 30 wants to date or be seen with the delusional older man who believes teenaged servers are flirting with him. You're just making shit up now. You're like the guy in the action moving who runs out of the bullets and throws the gun at his target in desperation. In my 40's I've dated 6 girl's in their 20's and met most of their families. So much for "No woman over 30 wants to ... X" Men cannot handle rejection, period You've gone from throwing the gun to trying to just screaming "fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:40 PM
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This is a non-answer. Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:34 PM
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How so? Seriously? "An older man dating a younger woman is likely to involve issues with power dynamics?" That's literally the definition of prejudicial. It's also utterly trite and irrelevant. A hot woman dating a mid guy will have "issues with power dynamics" because the hot woman will have 100x more options and simps competing for her attention at every turn while the guy will be holding on for dear life lest he have to endure another 18 month dry spell. Do you also recommend against non-look…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 PM
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He literally got hate from women all over social media for that ugly ass jaw surgery And those women would literally still fuck him. Let me ask you this - would you fuck Chris Evans?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:17 PM
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I’m pretty sure both people are going on the date. Who is paying? Secondly women don’t orgasm because a guy is hot. Uh huh. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2346531/Revealed-Women-really-likely-orgasm-theyre-attractive-man.html The findings revealed orgasm intensity was related to how attracted the women were to their partner Those with partners who their friends rated as more attractive also tended to have more intense orgasms. The rest of this isn't worth replying to. The fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:16 PM
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Unattractive, unpopular men are drawn to TRP because they aren’t desirable. Convenient and without evidence or argument. They aren’t going to become more physically attractive with age It's almost as if gyms and fashion advice don't exist. Funny, my count quadrupled after 30 because I got my shit together. You are ignoring how male SMV works because it's convenient for your argument, but that's nothing new. The ridiculous Hollywood examples given in each of these discussions weren’t ugly ducklin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:11 PM
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You keep self owning. LOL. The least flattering picture you can find of him, and a huge amount of 20 something women would absolutely still swoon to fuck this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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Are you serious? You think women in their 20's still wouldn't find the version of Efron you linked to hot? Nevermind. You're not serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:03 PM
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"Most" white women aren't attracted to Asian men. Are you also going into Asian subs discussing interracial dating chiming in with "Just so you know! Most white girls find Asian girls nerdy and creepy! TeeHee. Toodles, guyz!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:02 PM
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Rather the guys my own age than a washed up old man approaching me :) You sound 12, so it's very likely you would be off any legal man's radar (I would hope)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:00 PM
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Own Goal. Basically, "If you want to bang young women, you'd better be in the top echelon of older men" So, basically what RP has been saying for a decade. Damn, what a revelation. You think I've had sex with much younger women by looking like an "average" 40-something? I'm going to guess in your mind it's by lying them into my van with ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:00 PM
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Your flair is "Chris Evan's Stalker" FFS. Lol that's your defense "doesn't even look like that anymore" Lemme check what he looks like now: https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/bf5e33ce1d06e7da235d88e6cfad99f8 https://images.hola.com/us/images/0273-14b83b3f050b-1ff4770fcb2c-1000/horizontal-1200/bkg-zesohc220320-01-collage-u11023464223nlm.jpg Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:57 PM
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Where though? I'm sure you can find crazy people saying anything on the internet, but the majority of women are absolutely not. Not "On the Internet" on PPD, each and every time this subject is brought up. If a 35 year old man dates a 21 year old man there's likely gonna be issues with power dynamics and different maturity levels If a white girl dates a black guy If a gay bear dates a twink If a rich guy dates a poor girl If a smart person dates a dumb person If a tall person dates a short perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:52 PM
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There’s no point in mentioning them because most older men don’t look anything like them. Do you understand what a complete and utter logic fail this is? This is like saying "It's not worth mentioning attractive and fit women, because most women are 5'4 / 170 lbs" Nobody is talking about some fat, bald "soccer dad" driving a minivan, which is obviously what you're imagining. We're talking about fit, fashionable and active single older men. This is the whole problem. You can only envision a scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:48 PM
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It has to do with policing other people's bedrooms or completely legal sexual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:44 PM
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Can we take a moment to appreciate the irony of this girl's flair? "Chris Evan's Stalker" Chris Evans is 42 years old. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:43 PM
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In other news, you also find it "annoying" when the vast majority of fat / nerdy / ugly guys your own age approach you, and, if you're being honest guys that are not of your "preferred dating race" as well, but you won't say this out of a need to virtue signal. This isn't an age thing, this is a "Eww not my type" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:36 PM
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Didn’t say old men were disgusting though they’re not attractive or interesting as guys my age imo. So you think this young guy is more "attractive and interesting" than this 35 year old guy? Sure, Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:34 PM
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In my experience, this is generally due to just innate preference, but I've often this this manifest as a result of a younger woman see her mom / aunt / whatever get dumped for a younger woman. More often it's because the younger woman thinks of older man as some Homer Simpson or Paul Blart looking creeper rather than a Hemsworth or George Clooney in his 40's type. Bottom line: A woman saying "eww" to older men completely depends on the man she's envisioning in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:24 PM
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Imagining saying this about gay people or white women who date black guys or literally any other sexual preference: "Most men aren't gay, but the ones who are are only because of X"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:21 PM
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Similarly, foreign women are either ruthless gold diggers who are using you for a green card, or helpless illiterate sex slaves who will fall for any manipulation tactic used on her by a foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:19 PM
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Lol Schrodinger's Hamster. They both exist and don't exist at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:17 PM
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Lol exactly. The hamster gymnasts are honestly impressive with how quickly they can pivot. Another greatest hit: "Women love sex just as much as men" + "Women don't get anything out of having sex with a guy that won't commit to her"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:17 PM
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Women aren't calling 45 year old men predators for dating 25 year olds Lol yes they fucking are. And they are most certainly saying this about 35 year olds dating 21 year olds with their "muh undeveloped brain" nonsense. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:14 PM
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If female orgasmes are more satisfying why do lesbians orgasm less than gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:39 PM
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TLDR; I have no idea how male sexuality works and can only conceptualize them as women with dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:33 PM
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The closest I can compare it to is having women only use you for dates while never having any plans on being intimate with you and you have to eat food you don’t like and listen to them tell you about other guys. I was told women "like sex just as much as men do"... Which is it? Also, just LOL @ comparing 2 people having sex to ONE person spending actual currency. Do you women even hear yourselves and understand the implications of what you're saying? Basically, you are admitting that sex is a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:32 PM
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Lol cool so "Hey, Men. Even though you are half the population, you can congregate, just do it in private. And don't even think of doing anything with men from work exclusively. Keep that MAN thing out of the workplace" also "Company X celebrates Women In X!" "Women's lunch!" "Women's happy hour!" What? Men? Take that private or you're going to get written up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:53 AM
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So basically fat fetishists? .00001% of the population. Great info. Are you going to bring up Furries and guys that like to get shit on next?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:39 AM
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Then join a men's group outside of work The entire point is that these "women's groups" are not only allowed to exist but encouraged while men's groups are basically forbidden. How the hell do you not get the difference? hang your nudie posters at home and not at your desk. More snark. How charming. But yeah, while we're at it, I guess now having a photo of your girlfriend at the beach counts as "objectification of women"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:39 AM
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Yeah, women’s orgasms are far stronger, last longer, and multiples are possible without a refractory period. Men’s sound like a good sneeze, comparatively. If female orgasms were reduced to such a banal feeling, they’d be even less inclined to have casual sex. Ah yes more sarcastic snark disguised as some kind of rebuttal but has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Also ... Multiples, yes. Women don't have balls to drain. Doesn't take a genius to figure out why that is, but "far stronger…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:35 AM
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Having men want to fuck you doesn’t show that you are desired. It quite literally does though. It shows that you have, or are believed to possess, a vagina. So basically you think men would jump at the chance to fuck Lizzo because she "has a vagina"? Really? Have you not heard of "the boner test"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:28 AM
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So your industry sucks. This would be basically any industry in which women coexist with men. Women will deem any congregation of men an "exclusionary boys club" and complain to HR. I've seen it happen repeatedly. Hell, the things that are now off limits to even keep on your desk because they make women "feel sexualized" has reached comical levels. ​ Mens clubs still aren't a crime. So that's the bar? "It's not literally against the law" Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:27 AM
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Which actually proves the point. Women can and do put up with / accept this "emotional labor" from other women all the time, but they will not do the same for men because they themselves have sexist beliefs as to what kind of emoting men are allowed to engage in. Could you imagine if your boyfriend came home in tears because Brad bought the suit he wanted to wear for the big company meeting? Or that Jeff said he was getting "a little big for those pants"? How do you think a woman would perceive …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:24 AM
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I'll start by saying, I have the utmost respect for what you do as a profession, so I'm not going to address any of that other than to say, I don't see what relevance it has. A man dying alone and friendless is indeed tragic and male isolation should absolutely be addressed, but it has nothing to do with a man being starved for intimacy. The two are not the same for men, so please, for the love of god I wish you and other women would start thinking of men as men and not women with male genitals.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:08 AM
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Sex, by itself, devoid of real love and commitment, will never cure the loneliness of anyone, man or woman. But it certainly will make a man feel like he's not a hopelessly undesirable piece of shit, and since one woman found him attractive, it's possible another would. To deny the impact of this is to deny that women use sex for their own validation and to "feel desired" which, we all know, would be nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:35 AM
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Women do not, and will never have sympathy for men who conflate their sexlessness with loneliness. They are not the same thing. FTFY If men were truly lonely, and wanted to be loved, and admired and be with a woman. Sex would not be their primary focus. It would be on love, and finding a committed relationship. LMAO. You ever notice how the "sexual attraction" part has to exist before the "finding a committed relationship" part? Funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 AM
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I know a bunch of "women in entertainment" party nights and "women's lunches" that happen in my industry. Want to guess what would happen if I tried to arrange a "Men's Lunch"? Lol. I've had multiple HR "sexual discrimination" training videos that straight up said that "a bunch of men going out with eachother exclusively" can be deemed "exclusionary" and thus sexist and hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:13 AM
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Where are the places men can’t congregate and commune that feminist have closed down? https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/us/boy-scouts-girls-trnd/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:10 AM
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Basically. https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/us/boy-scouts-girls-trnd/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:09 AM
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HOWEVER, I don’t feel “sexless”. I don’t think about it, prioritize finding someone to have sex with, or feel pain because I haven’t had sexually intimate experience in a longtime. It’s because I have friends. I have kids. I get hugs and I FEEL INCREDIBLY LOVED. You were making sense until this part. It just shows a very common but complete and utter lack of understanding for the male drive for sexual contact. The very fact that you can "not have sex but not feel sexless" should give you pause a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:07 AM
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That's your answer to being shown that maintaining a living space is not a "full time job" when you claimed otherwise? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:29 PM
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I said point me to the place where you are blaming the women themselves for having shitty partners rather than jumping into a circle jerk of white knight "you go girl" man bashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:28 PM
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doing chores for a home is not a "full time job" Source: I live alone, do everything myself (shop, clean, do laundry, etc), and work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:37 PM
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Have you ever been to a "Salon" in Manhattan? The receptionists aren't cutting hair / doing nails / waxing pussies, they are there to look pretty and take appointments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:35 PM
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If women are trauma dumping on you, you are welcome to walk away. No one is forcing you to stay. Can you point me to the place you tell women this exact same thing when they complain about men's behavior? I somehow doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:02 PM
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If we specifically take nurses and engineers, in a vacuum, I am 100% with you. ​ However, "homemaking" also may lend itself to the skills the nurse already has. Is she a better cook? Can she make a bed in 30 seconds flat? Then why is it a shock that she would undertake those things even when home IF (note the IF) if the man is using his abilities and aptitudes as an engineer to do things like fix electrical problems or car issues? Why does her "home making labor" count but his "handyman" labor n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:01 PM
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It absolutely is. Try to google things like "Disparity in hours worked" and "Wage differential among heterosexual couples" and you'll be bombarded with articles that do nothing but "dispel the myth of X" or claims that "women aren't paid the same" etc Point being, all the articles in media are virtually mandated to paint women as either victims or heroes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:54 PM
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It's not about hours, it's about effort and stress. If your job consists of competing for other men in a cutthroat profession where you're on commission, that's not the same damn thing as a woman working 8-5 a Lululemon. Women shouldn't be keeping "ledgers" about how much a person should be doing based on her feelings, versus the totality of the facts of each scenario. The scenario of an ER nurse versus a desk jockey is more appropriate. If the woman were the nurse and the guy was the desk jocke…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:50 PM
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What?! Now you're on "nail salons"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:47 PM
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A lot of nurses are married to engineers and nursing is arguably a lot harder than engineering. You'll get no argument from me there, but then we are still talking about total labor. No need for nebulous concepts like "emotional labor" to be brought into it. If Partner A works a desk job for 8 hours, filing paperwork and coding and Partner B is on their feet running from room to room and potentially dealing with emergencies, of course it makes sense for Partner A to be taking on more domestic ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:43 PM
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I’ve never seen any data on who has more “stressful” jobs although I think honestly that’s a highly individualized thing. Seriously? Come on man. Anyway, take a look at this and get back to me with "muh equally stressful professions" And while you're at it, can you explain why just simply admitting that men might have it harder / have to put in more effort is just *so damn difficult* for women to come to terms with admitting? It seems that trying to agree on basic, common sense facts on PPD (whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:37 PM
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if you compare me to Margot Robbie, I’m going to smile politely and thank you Ok. If you compared me to Lizzo, I’d probably laugh and banter with you about it. I mean, if you say I have Lizzo’s ass…cool. Oh, FFS. Seriously? Margot Robbie gets a confused eyebrow raise, but Lizzo gets a "teehee, thanks"? I'm out. I just can't with this hamster shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:33 PM
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If you shared some trait with Margot Robbie, it could be in reference to that. If you looked more like Lizzo and somebody told you that, would you take that as a compliment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:00 PM
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My experiences have not shown me that women do any of the above more than men. Stop. Just... stop. We're getting into "men and women are just as horny" / arguing the color of the sky territory, so I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:58 PM
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It is absolutely debatable No. The average scenario is not debatable. I work full time while my husband works part time. Outlier. My mother runs a successful business and my stepdad doesn't work at all Outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:57 PM
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Then you damn well better consider the totality of "labor" in the ridiculous "emotional labor" equation. If you are a receptionist at a hair salon, and I'm working with heavy equipment, around high voltage electrical wires while 300 ft off the ground in the sun, guess who the fuck is going to be doing most of the "emotional labor" when one person gets home at 5pm with freshly filed nails and the other gets home at 7pm with cuts and bruises? You also better consider the hours that one person has …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:47 PM
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If you need a study to show you that women whine, complain and nag more than men.... well, I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:44 PM
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Men work more hours than women on average and work more high pressure jobs. That is not debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:39 PM
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Many many heterosexual relationships, both experienced and observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:32 PM
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You’ve also got dozens of women telling you OUR OWN experience and understanding of OUR OWN emotional labor. memememMEMEMEMEMEMEEEEE! We're talking about reality not what you "feel" is "emotional labor" Words mean things. You don't get to call something "labor" just because your bf was in a bad mood after his team lost or whatever. And again, if dealing with moodiness is something you classify as "labor", please tell me how much "labor" you think the average man has to engage in for a woman and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:29 PM
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If she works for 5 hours in retail and I am getting off a 15 hour shift as a surgeon the two things are not the same. If she is putting the kids to bed while I'm fixing the sink and a shit-clogged toilet, there is no imbalance. Same if she is planning a dinner party while I change the oil in her car. "Emotional labor" is just (another) catch all term women like to use to classify any and every action they do as "labor" when it's really just them doing their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:25 PM
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If women call what they do in a heterosexual relationship "emotional labor", this means men exist in emotional servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:22 PM
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One day while with my ex I was incredibly depressed and anxious and I didn’t respond the way he wanted me to when telling me a difficult personal story about someone in his family. You do realize that in an average heterosexual relationship, it is the man fielding this kind of stuff from women by a 10:1 margin, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:19 PM
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Dozens of men telling you their experience dating hundreds of women? What the hell do you want? A lab study?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a guy burst into tears or throw a coffee cup in a meeting room. Maybe women just mean they should be allowed to emotionally vomit at any time / any place because "muh hormones"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:14 PM
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Women are fine with vulnerability Bullshit. How many examples do women need to hear of this being bullshit before they acknowledge it is bullshit? a lot of men think "emotional vulnerability" means trauma dumping So basically what 99% of what women do to men. Got it. Also hilarious is what a catch-all term "trauma dumping" is. Women could call this everything from a man crying about how much he loved his dog that he just had to put down to talking about getting molested. Women call anything they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:12 PM
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Sure. Although I usually can just go online and book on my hospital network's website. You literally just cited "calling repair folks" and "booking appointments" as labor, and now are dismissing it as "Well I can just go online" which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:10 PM
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Jesus, what is it when I fix my own sink? Emotional Hard Labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:08 PM
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So basically about 1/4 of what I have to keep track of / stay on top of at my regular job. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:07 PM
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You've never heard people speak of a "beautiful person" in terms of their actions or even style before? Ladies and gentlemen, this is what "hamstering" is. Sell that shit somewhere else. Nobody is buying it here. PS - Shit like this is why so many men tell other men to not take women seriously / at their word. I hope women realize that when they vomit up utter bullshit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:58 PM
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I feel like men don’t understand the amount of emotional labour that women put into long term, committed relationships. You mean like consoling your partner while they cry and drone on for hours about what a backstabbing bitch Becky is because she bought the same dress for the company party? Oh wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:54 PM
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You seriously don't know what a Mary Sue is? Captain Marvel Rey Batwoman Katniss Hermoine Trinity in Matrix Resurrections Every female character in West World after Season 1 But just in case, watch this, and if you still don't get it, I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:45 PM
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Deliberate Obtuseness strikes again. Do you know what a Hero's Journey is? Yeah, every Hollywood movie created in the past 10 years has women jumping from straight from the "call to adventure" part right to the 'Return with Elixir' step. Missing from nearly every movie with a female protagonist? Refusal of call Meeting the mentor Trials and failures Self reflection Growth and new skills Why? Because for a woman to do any of those things might be portraying women in need of (gasp) help and being …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:39 PM
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If she looks nothing like Lizzo, then this is clearly just an insult. Lol. No. If the woman went on about how beautiful Margo Robbie was, and you then told her she looked like Margo Robbie, this wouldn't be "clearly just an insult" now would it? People who think Lizzo is beautiful are aware that isn't the popular opinion. You misspelled "lying" They also might not mean beautiful in terms of looks. Oh for fucksake. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:28 PM
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LOL. So basically "I won't care about men leaving until it effects the guy who fixes my toilet" Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:22 PM
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Wouldn’t have to argue it if men weren’t constantly implying it. Where? Show me where this is happening. Housing absolutely can be a life or death need so I mean even that analogy was dumb and didn’t work. Define "housing". Go ahead. Because "housing" is everything from a shanti hut to a mansion. Is running water a "need"? Is hot water a "need"? How about air conditioning? I'm gonna guess you'll come up with all kinds of reasons those things are "different" than something as unnecessary as a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:04 PM
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Okay, prove it then. https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success Lemme guess, muh slut shaming was a thing 8000 years ago. But sure, hypergamy doesn't exist. Another day another woman on PPD wanting to argue the color of the sky. I hate to break it to ya, buddy, but there are average looking women out there perfectly happy to have sex with average looking men. Oh no you don't. We are talking about the disparity in partner selection when it comes to casual sex, not that some averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:53 PM
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I think they do understand this. Most incels are upset about being left out of what they see as a normal developmental experience. Not to hold this guy up as a voice of reason, but Eliot Rodger made it very clear his pain was about being rejected, not about not being able to insert his dick into a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:30 PM
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Whoosh. Again, the hamsters can't comprehend the factual claim that because something isn't a life-or-death need that is unimportant. The argument wasn't "It would be unfair to compel women to sleep with men they don't want to" yet that's what you're trying to argue against here. It's the usual pathetic shell game women on PPD try to do. No body is making the "force women to fuck incels!1!" argument and you know it. But, when you blithely dismiss the male sex drive as basically some kind of friv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:29 PM
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The amount of women I know who would love to have casual hookups with very average looking men, Not to mention the self-cockblocking that results from sex shaming. Stop. Just ... stop. Nobody buys this nonsense and it's easily disproven. Why? Because as women have become more sexually liberated and when they begin to participate in hook up culture, it isn't "average men" they are fucking, it's Chad. And why wouldn't it be? The easily provable fact that the vast concentration of sexual partners a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:26 PM
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What difference does that make? And many / most of those things have to do with taxing society and adjusting existing rules and often outright preferential treatment (see "Diversity and Inclusion" programs)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:21 PM
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I honestly believe that this is why many celebrities and athletes have no problem paying for sex. It's not just the "you pay them to leave" thing, it's the fact that they have literally no ego tied up in the transaction. If Chris Evans was caught with a hooker, nobody in their right mind is going to think "haha, pathetic incel had no choice!" Basically, if you have 5 hot girls chasing you, but don't want to deal with the headache and bang a escort who would probably fuck you for free if she wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:52 PM
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, I can pleasure myself better than any pleasure from fucking a fat girl, so I don't fuck fat girls, even when they offer themselves without effort on my part. Bingo A higher SMV girl must exceed the pleasure of masturbation plus the time and expense of dating her to be worth dating. And in a large sense, this is the fundamental goal of RP. To reduce the "expense" down to an acceptable level. It's why if you can bang the hot girl quickly, and avoid the drama, the expense is worth it. If you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:47 PM
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Any feminist will tell you that the military should be volunteer only and that a draft violates bodily autonomy. Yes, they'll "say" this when pushed, but I don't remember seeing any marches or pussy hats come out around this subject. The fact is feminists don't give a flying fuck about this and everybody knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:33 PM
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There are even casual dating apps these days. Go get your hook-up on, dude! Lol I just love when women tell on themselves by revealing their solipsism and utter state of privelege with statements like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:25 PM
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but you will not die, if you don’t have sex. Should we go down the list of things women "won't die" from not having, yet they complain, march and scream about constantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:24 PM
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Men don’t need “pussy”. Women don't "need" housing, they can live in mud huts. See how easy this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:23 PM
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Prove these patterns are oBsErVed bY aLL mEn. Until then, it’s just your own opinion, to say it mildly. Another day, another woman on PPD not only wanting to argue about whether water is wet, but also wanting "proof" No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:14 PM
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So if you don’t see how my source is correlated to what you just said, then your source and observations about gender dynamics also fly out the window. "Bruh", I'll make it simple for you. Behavior among friend groups of the same sex can be easily observed and patterns analyzed. In these scenarios, having sisters (or brothers) is a valid source of observation to come to conclusions. This is akin to women saying "boys like to play fight" or "men often jokingly insult each other" You saying this: …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:33 PM
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Also, I don’t work in tech, nor do I live in CA. If it’s taboo to bitch about a shitty date in silicon valley, well, good luck to those folks. It indeed is. I could totally understand if one was working in a service industry, or manufacturing where this kind of hyper-sensitivity isn't common, but trust that in tech and in CA it's a draconian / Orwellian atmosphere with shit like this. I've been in the industry for 30 years, and it's become comical how many things are "inappropriate" to even broa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:13 PM
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Why do men resort to all these made up scenarios instead of accepting the reality that in the vast majority of cases she just wasn’t into you So that's your argument when you are hearing about men telling you about scenarios in which these things actually happen? "Nuh uh! Yur a liar!!!" Move on to someone that’s actually interested instead of living in your little bubble. You mean, like the ones grinding on me and making out with me? Those ones? I guess she just needed to be "saved from herself"…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:03 PM
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But the fat girl is just "looking out for her friend", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:58 PM
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lol so now we're moving the goal posts to "position of power"? Here's a news flash, just about everybody is in a "position of power" of another person in some damn way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:57 PM
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Men "wanting a virgin" is delusional IMO, but the ones that have any shot at this I would imagine must be young themselves. I've never dated / had sex with a virgin, but I've had sex with a couple of girls where I was their 2nd, and they were 10+ years younger than me. The age gap arguments have been done to death, and you cited a whole bunch of data that states that "It is rare" I've not heard anybody argue that large age gaps are common, just that merely that they are possible. For my part, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:46 PM
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Men and women aren’t that different. When it comes to dating? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:41 PM
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Has this happened to you? Lol yes. Holy shit. I've been straight making out with a woman, and the fat one started some drama that made her leave. How about you \#believemen ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:38 PM
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Ah yes, who ever heard of females being jealous of and sabotaging each other when they feel left out. Especially if an attractive guy is involved. It literally never happens. Oh wait, that's basically Woman 101 Source: 3 older sisters and countless friends who I've observed my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:36 PM
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But also, isn’t it troubling for a company to take action against an employee for something he does solely in his personal life? These kinds of questions are a lot more interesting than the ones you’re posing. No. What's "troubling" is the insane inconsistency of "the rules" in which women can do say or do anything against men, but men are terminated for the slightest infraction. The conversation will never be had unless women are punished for the same action. Further, in many cases, women freak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:29 PM
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Lol. I like how i gave you a better comparison, trump, and you chose to ignore it lmao. Nope. People who are X can do Y. vs I personally did Y, many times. Can you see the difference? Come on. I know you can do it! And again, you are comparing a literal cult leader saying some general shit, to a woman admitting a fucking FELONY. I notice you skipped right over Franken. Do I seriously need to start googling all the petty shit men have been fired for? Basically your argument is "Trump said that gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:51 PM
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Just cause I’m watching something star wars related, gina carano was cancelled. Took me a few seconds to figure it out since I forgot her name. Oh no you don't. We're talking about women facing consequences for talking bad about men. Hell, even women doing bad things to men (Cardi B, Amy Schumer, Asia Argento, etc) Cardi b should’ve gotten more flack about her comments when she said she drugged and robbed men. But she wasn't. She basically openly admitted to the near equivalent of doing what Cos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:34 PM
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I think this statement is born out of these objective facts: Men's overall attractiveness is more "wholistic" (competence, confidence, status all of which tend to increase well into a man's 30's / 40's) whereas women's is far more directly tied to their physical beauty which is indirectly tied to their youth which generally (but not always) caps out in her late 20's. Men's physical attractiveness is not based as much on neotenous traits like smooth skin, doe eyes, pouty lips, dainty figure, etc)…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:26 PM
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I mean, if people are getting fired for stuff outside the workplace, that sounds more like an employment issue than a gender issue. You say this then go on to say: There isn’t a multi-millennia history of women unilaterally subjugating, oppressing, abusing, and raping men. When women insult men, it doesn’t dredge up any nasty history that no civilized person should want to align himself with. So, it is a "gender issue" after all. You can't claim there is no disparity in how the two things are tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:11 PM
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it makes statistical sense that most men are dating average women, then it will work if the man has average women for friends. No it really doesn't, because average women want above average men. So you're really saying that a somewhat above average man will need to date a well above average woman to achieve this bump. I'm not sure how much you've dated or how old you are (I'm not saying this as a dig, just stating I'm unsure), but in my 30 years of dating, preselection has only really worked whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:07 PM
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Just saw it. Another good one. I have no idea why people can't get their head around the fact that much of what we are discussing is not the frequency of a given behavior but the disparity in how severely it is treated. I think the reason for this is one that women (and some men) don't want to say because they know how dumb it will sound: "An individual man being dragged, insulted or dehumanized isn't really that big of a deal because thousands of years of patriarchy."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:03 PM
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You just can't be serious with this. Are you going to start citing vaudeville minstrel shows next?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:00 PM
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Here's what you are confusing: The issue isn't the frequency that women publicly say foul shit about men (or a particular man). The issue is how when they do say (or do) foul shit towards men in just about any venue (including work), they are met with virtually zero consequences compared to men doing the same. Please keep your eye on the ball rather than trying to reframe the argument to suit a different narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:59 PM
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More like "I've worked in a corporate environment for almost 30 years, and have never seen a woman face consequences for saying foul shit about men in any context, but have seen and know men getting canned for having a goddamn Anime figurine on his desk"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:57 PM
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Pretty much. It's the "accountability gap", a close relative of the empathy gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:54 PM
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Yes. All woman say kill all men. All of them. Because you think that. But enough do and did and have said and done worse. The issue is "the disparity in societal reactions and consequences" Please keep your eye on the ball. Can you cite me a single example of a woman facing serious personal or professional consequences for saying something heinous or shitty about men in general? Just ONE? No? Didn't think so. I can give you about a dozen examples of men getting fired, dragged or cancelled for do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:52 PM
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IRL I’ve never heard any woman complain about a man’s height. wwwWhAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:45 PM
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It also seems like you think openly displaying your sexist beliefs is just fine and dandy at work Which is the exact point. A woman could do any of the above and worse and get nothing more than a friendly email from HR to "maybe tone it down" Each of those men were fired (or damn near fired) for the criminal offense of: - Replying to a 'feedback' thread regarding a diversity initiative and their thoughts on it that were solicited. - Retweeting a (funny) joke without any comment which was deleted…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:41 PM
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people should say something about it At the end of the day, this is the issue. Most (not all) women live in the "should" world and most (not all) men live in the "is" world. We are discussing the "is" world here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:38 PM
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What are you even talking about? "Insult in the workplace"? One guy quote a movie while out at an event on his own time. Another guy re-tweeted an obvious joke. Another guy submitted his take on his company's "diversity and inclusion" initiative via a solicited "share your thoughts" forum. And, you're still ignoring the point. A woman doing any of the above things would at worst face a "Hey, Jan, can you ease up on the rhetoric a bit?" compared to a near instant firing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:37 PM
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Lol, are you seriously taking "on the spot" that literally? Like, an instantaneous "clean out your desk"? You realize that's not what we're talking about here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:35 PM
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Maybe you should stick to the Incel subs. I love when a reply dunks on itself by proving the point in the very comment it is replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:34 PM
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Let me make this simple: A guy merely being in a relationship with a fat, gross ham beast of a woman is not going to instill any meaningful "preselection" effects in the real world. In the abstract, a man might be deemed 'more attractive' by nature of the mere information of "he has a girlfriend". I would bet a large sum of money that the rating of that "attractive" guy would either go to the same as if he were single or even go down if it were revealed that his "girlfriend" is some hideous butt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:31 PM
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Compared to the shit women talk about men with impunity? No they don't. See. I win.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:23 PM
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We're discussing what one gender can get away with saying about the opposite gender. Please stick to the matter at hand if you want a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:22 PM
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Who cares what a bunch of confirmed tabloid harpies from the early 90s said on a morning talk show? Let's just ignore that an a whole ass audience full of women was laughing uproariously at the torture and mutilation of a man's dick because... man. Also let's ignore how there was zero consequences for this. No pulled advertisers, no politicians chiming in, nothing. Reverse the genders and tell me with a straight face that would happen. https://youtu.be/80JqoyaL-p4 This happened in 2011. Just LO …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:19 PM
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While I don't disagree with your general assessment of how men / women talk, the issue is not the frequency of these things. I think we can all agree that men generally say crass things more often. The issue is that individual women can say and do the most heinous shit imaginable, but, so long as it's directed towards men, it gets an absolute pass. See: Cardi B
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:11 PM
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merely suspended which isn't a real consequence This statement alone indicates this is not a serious discussion. The issue is that women are allowed to use any insult, attack or 'tone' when discussing how inadequate men in general are, whereas a man making a clear joke or stating a dispassionate opinion risks his very livelihood. But go on about how getting fucking SUSPENDED from your job for a retweet of an innocuous joke is no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:09 PM
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Please, for the love of god: stick to REAL LIFE and mainstream media / entertainment. TikTok and internet clout chasing is not what we're talking about. We're talking about what would fly in the context of HR, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:05 PM
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But would you go on twitter and launch a campaign to try to get that woman fired? Didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:03 PM
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Who or what is literally stopping men from expressing themselves about the women available to them? Uhh, the public at large? The social consequences? Being "called out" on twitter? Is your argument that if somebody isn't literally taping men's mouths shut that men and women face the exact same consequences for their criticisms of the opposite sex? Who is firing you? HR? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-exec-exits-after-coarse-remarks-in-viral-tiktok-video-report-11664482872 https://www.n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:40 AM
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No one really talks like that my man. Yes they really do, my man. Have you actually hung around women at a club / bar when alcohol is involved and they are loudly railing on how shitty the men there are (short, old, broke, etc)? If either men or woman make weird remarks in their complaints they both get judged. No they don't. The end. Women get a pass. Show me one example of a woman getting dragged or fired for saying heinous shit about men. Just one. Please, I'll wait. money and height and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:36 AM
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Most men have heard women say some variance of Anal / Oral doesn't count I was on vacation so it doesn't count I didn't have an organism so it doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:32 AM
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This is two "girlfriends" shooting the shit, this has nothing to do with how society at large treats men and women engaging in their complaints about the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:30 AM
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a.) if you complain exclusively about your dating options not being adequately attractive, people are going to rightly find you kinda shallow *does not apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:29 AM
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Hell, I’m vocal at work about these things too. At least once in the presence of a single mother, unbeknownst to me. I'm pressing X to doubt on this. In the vast majority of tech companies in California anyway, saying any such thing would earn you a trip to HR and "sensitivity classes"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:28 AM
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He was talking about how men are admonished for expressing their looks-related standards and women aren't. Seriously? You're going to bring up Don Rickles / Rat Pack era humor as some kind of "they do it too" argument in 2023?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:27 AM
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contrast with women thinking poor behavior on their part " must mean he did something " Bingo, that's behind the majority of the responses dismissing the utterly common practice of women openly shitting on "men in general" for all manner of traits beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:27 AM
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When a woman says a guy is a creep, she's describing his behavior, not looks Except that's not what we're talking about. Stay focused. Women can shit on men for being short, broke, bald, old or whatever and get 'Yas Kweened' for it which is the entire point. If a woman says only ugly guys hit on her or something, well, I think that's a problem as well. Yet something tells me you don't chime in about it with the vociferousness and righteous indignation you would when a guy says "I don't date fat …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:25 AM
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I don't know what you mean. I have seen loads of men on reddit (including in this sub) complain about fat women Do me a favor, stop talking about 'reddit including this sub' as if it's real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:23 AM
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I've spent my whole life being called heinous shit by men online How in ever loving christ can't women get it through their heads that we aren't talking about "online"??? Do you actually think that's what's being discussed here rather than, the actual situation in real life? You know, the real life where a crowd of women can laugh at a guy getting his dick cut off and face zero backlash or consequences, but a man makes a dumb quote from an 80's movie which a bunch of women consider "misogynistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:20 AM
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Lol, I can cite you 3 examples off the top of my head of men getting fired on the spot for 'insulting women'. How about you name one single woman who was fired for talking bad about men or making a "offensive joke"? that's what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:18 AM
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"This sub" where a man can complain and still get people calling him an incel vs... The rest of the fucking world which allows women to say any and everything they want to shit on men Really good comparison there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:16 AM
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Men complain about everything women do every day in every corner of the universe. What men do this and where? Where do they do this and what is the reaction. That is what is being discussed. This sub is flooded with posts compla**[SNIP]** Ahh THERE we go! Once again, women confusing one minuscule corner of reddit, and a roundly shit on and derided and also very far from mainstream 'red pill' community with... The entire rest of western society and public discourse. This argument is the most term…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:15 AM
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Except women are "allowed" to be assholes about their complaints towards men. A man who complains about the women available for dating is labeled (by society at large) an incel / Tate dick-rider / etc and is roundly denied. A woman who complains about men is labled (by society at large) a "kween who knows her worth" and is at worst considered "picky" but more often considered "totally reasonable" THAT is the difference, and to pretend otherwise is typical of women on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:11 AM
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First, preselection isn't unconditional, and it certainly doesn't merely mean "hangs out with some fat chick at a ren-faire" It means you have attractive options and this is demonstrated by women's desire to be around you and their behavior while doing so. Also, this discussion is about maintaining options within a relationship. Merely having a posse of fat, unattractive women who have friend zoned you is not going to do anything except make you look like the "friend guy" Here's how this works: …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:07 PM
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Believing in monogamy is not the problem, planning on it continuing without a contingency is. This is why passive dread must be maintained at all times. Once you are the 'guy who spends all his free time on the couch' because you know you have a reliable source of pussy, the end has begun. You must always be perceived as a man who can not just walk but walk to something equally good or better than your current partner within a week. Deep down, this is the only thing that keeps a woman's behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:10 PM
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Men can eliminate this problem by having as many female friends as his partner has me friends. As if being friend-zoned by a bunch of women is some flex. No, it doesn't work like this. Those women have to show sexual interest in the guy and be flirty. Having a bunch of female "friends" who ask you for rides and help moving means nothing. If those women "friends" are unattractive, it's also of no help. Less sexual options. Not relationship options. ... as if being a sexual option isn't a prerequi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:07 PM
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And being misleading, nebulous, or pretending uncertainty and dangling the possibility of monogamy is equally evil, unethical, and immortal and tantamount to sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:02 PM
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What shocks me sometimes is that the (D) girls, and particularly the really left wing girls... they are flithy I've noticed this too, and I think it really comes down to girls getting turned on by dropping whatever facade they have to maintain to "the world" It's the same reason rich and powerful men or religious leaders often like to get pissed and shit on by women. If you virtue signal all day about how righteous, moral and virtuous you are, when you're behind closed doors you might tend to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:55 PM
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So, basically 2-3% of men get approached by women. Got it. Is this an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:33 PM
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Did you even check the author? That should tell you exactly what was coming next.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:26 PM
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Whether a man "accepts it" or not is up to the individual. That doesn't change the fact that, at the end of the day, RP is about accepting the realities of women's nature (good and bad) and learning to work within those parameters. Now, the real problem here, and the reason for the continued rise of RP and figures like Tate is women's seeming constant need to gaslight and lie about these realities until they are blue in the face. We see it on PPD every day, and it's even worse in mainstream medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:24 PM
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Communicating with women on this sub has done nothing more than validate the red pill for me. Even down to how women argue and manipulate. Incredibly true, yet still shocking how women don't realize how they are proving the very points they are trying to argue against in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:19 PM
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In before: "I stood in his line of sight" or "I gave him the eyes" and counting those as "initiating a relationship"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:17 PM
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Ah yes, "Love Bombing" the latest greatest hit to remove any and all accountability from women for their own decisions. I love how "the masks drops" is implied to be something what men do, but not the utterly common phenomenon of women starting to "let out the crazy" a few months in to a relationship after pretending to be easy going to and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:16 PM
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What? You just read that men are single at a far higher rate than women, it's just that there is a small cohort of Chads in the mix that are skewing the data. The real issue with these statistics is that they don't / can't measure for 'are you single despite making an attempt at dating and being rejected repeatedly' which, I promise you would tell the whole story here: The vast majority of single men are that way involuntarily, while the majority of single women are happily choosing to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:43 PM
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The new issues are the same as they were in the early 2000s. Imagine thinking ubiquity of OLD, social media, the mainstreaming of only fans and thirst traps has had no effect and that it's no different from rap videos in the 90's and women's fashion magazines in the 80's. Take a look this graph. See that spike? Hmm, what phenomenon started around the same time? I wonder. Rather than dismissing the effects of something as common sense as social media skewing peoples perceptions of themselves and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:37 PM
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A gap that large should automatically trigger skepticism. You're right. It triggers my skepticism with women's notorious ability (and need) to hamster the reality of their sex lives. For one, women consistently underreport their number of sexual partners. This is not debatable. An extension of this is women deluding themselves that they are in a "relationship" because they banged some guy a few times. Two things easily explain the disparity. Girl A, B and C thinks she is "dating" Chad, but Chad …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:21 AM
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Lol that is not an argument for anything other than: 2 people got together when they were relatively attractive and got fat together The woman "settled" Beta Bux In any of these cases, the guy can be getting deadbedroomed and most importantly, observing 2 people in the 10th year of a relationship that started before Instagram or Tinder even existed has absolutely nothing with the current dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:15 AM
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see what I did there. Lol. No. You did nothing there except make shit up. Women's standards for physical beauty in men are far more immutable and predictable than men's are for women. Women's taste largely depend on "type" (ie I like nerdy guys / aka Chad with glasses) You can find men who like and even prefer all manner of things like small breasts, skinny, thick, fat, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:12 AM
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"wwWWHAT?!?" Is this written from 1974? In 2023 women are not blamed for anything regarding negative behaviors and outcomes with relationships. If a woman cheats, it's because the man was "emotionally neglecting her", if a woman physically attacks a man, it's because she was "pushed to do so", etc. I don't remember the last time I've heard, in the main stream, "That woman needs to pick better" after a woman is with an abusive man. I have however witnessed studios full of women laughing at a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:59 PM
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As you well know, ethanol is in fact a "poison" when consumed in large enough amounts and no amount of intake is healthy. So, again, your argument boils down to any type of indulgence, done in large enough amounts can be detrimental. You know, kind of like porn consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:39 PM
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A good analogy would be drinking poison. "Well, if you only drink a small amount it won't hurt you that bad" but it doesn't net gain you anything, only net negative. So basically anything from a glass of wine with a nice dinner to passing out in the gutter after drinking a handle of vodka is the same because it's a "net negative"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:58 PM
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Typically men do masculine things in an effort to attract a woman, they: Get jobs Work out Eat healthy Take initiative Porn cuts right to the reward (ejaculation) without needing any of the former. It doesn't teach men how to be successful in life, and when not done in moderation will actively harm them. Your post ignores the fact that doing these things in 2023 results in minuscule results compared to times passed for a myriad of reasons including: Women's choices has put hypergamy on steroids …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:55 PM
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Lol, so wait, you think the average guy is getting more sex in the Tinder era? Nevermind. This is not a serious discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:57 PM
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So, assuming at least 10-15 single years after becoming sexually active, you're claiming that an "average" man will have 25-40 sexual partners in a lifetime? You want to revise that? In general, anywhere between 4 and 8 partners is considered an average number of sexual partners for adult men and women. Mar 13, 2023 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key\_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:51 AM
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Oh, I see. So you're trying to imply the very fact that a man finding something difficult means he had to try harder, which by extension means he isn't as "desirable" or as "good" as the guy that just got it by default? Sure. Okay. We know that. We call this guy "Chad". You might have heard of him. None of this remotely changes the point being made: People admire / respect those who overcome odds. It's why people missing limbs playing in the NFL, amputees running a marathon or short guys who can…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:23 PM
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Not every woman is a hot 21 year old instagram influencer. Lol wut? If you're anything better than a massive buttergolem you'll have some guy hitting you up if you post a remotely flattering pic. Even then, utter hambeasts will still get some guy chiming in calling her a BBW.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:17 PM
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Is it your contention that an "average" man has 3 unique, casual partners per year? Is this what you're trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:03 PM
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Do me a favor and tell me why a prodigy makes a worse physician from a student who barely passed medical school? Sure, once you explain to me the relevance of this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:02 PM
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Why TF would women even need "dating apps" when they have men sliding in to their DM's on every social media platform? On top of that, those men's social media profiles give far more information to the woman about the guy and his life than brief, curated dating profile. A woman can see things like popularity (followers / likes) and even preselection by means of women appearing in photos / stories with a guy and comments left by women who know the guy on his pics. In other words, to say women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:12 PM
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This is hilarious. If he wants a thing, he should work harder. Is that what women need to do when they want to have a bunch of no-strings sex? "Work harder"? Also, you do realize that RP indeed tells men to "work harder" if they want to have sexual options, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:06 PM
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the average single guy has 2-3 hookups a year right? "Hook ups" as in casual one-night stands? Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:05 PM
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there is no skill in attaining sex as a woman, It seems that women reach peak solipsism when this subject is brought up. Basically, women live in a world where "mere sex" is so easy to obtain as to be worthless and disposable. The concept of it requiring effort to obtain is so foreign to them that they can't step out of their own shoes and contemplate an existence in which it is difficult (ie solipsism) They see threads like this, and think of themselves. They think of all the time men (creepy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:04 PM
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Tha fuck? Why bring religion into this discussion? If your god is real, why did He handicap women with the orgasm gap and ensure that men get gratification from fruit while women get there less than half the time? LOL. Calm down. I'm not even religious, but you've made this one too easy, because any religious nut could easily argue that "God" did this to discourage women from being promiscuous, etc. I don't happen to believe that, but your whole statement is a non-sequitur. Here, I'll rephrase i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:57 PM
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It’s only difficult for ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:30 PM
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That’s sexist and misogynistic. Is it also "white supremacist" and "fat phobic"? I'm trying to get all the buzzwords in one go. Just because men have higher sex drives (on average) doesn’t give people the right to shame women Good thing I never said that. The point I made wasn't that women should be shamed for having many sex partners, only to point out that it is not a noteworthy achievement for a woman to do so, whereas it is for a man due to its difficulty level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:03 PM
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TLDR; Men and women are different, and I'm mad about it. Take it up with god. To any woman still confused about this though: If an 8 ft tall person dunked a basketball 10 times in a row, would you be impressed? Would you praise them for doing something inordinately difficult, or would you shrug it off as merely exploiting an innate advantage? Now, how about if a 5'4 person did it? Are you starting to get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:48 PM
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ITT; Women claiming virgin shaming isn't that bad because slut shaming exists. As with so many things discussed on RP, the issue here isn't the existence or even the prevalence of these types of judgements, insults and social consequences, but the disparity in the severity and vociferousness with which those insults are pointed out as "wrong" It's similar to emotional manipulation within a relationship or stories of domestic violence. A man slapping a woman is (rightly) called out as an awful th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:40 PM
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Just treat them the same way. This is the key. Your life will get much easier when you show women the same regard and concern for their issues that they do for yours; none.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:34 PM
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One of the biggest of such flaws is the inherent belief that ALL women are the same, and following blueprint XYZ will undoubtly yield success. This is precisely like saying "Women wear makeup, show off their tits / ass, behave in provocative and flirtatious ways because they believe all men are the same". Some things are demonstrably more successful in attracting the opposite sex. The difference is women gaslight / are unaware of their own attraction cues which forces men to observe their behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:34 PM
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While a man is still expected to start the conversation, in most cases it is the woman who initiates by looking at him, smiling, trying to get his attention by dancing in his love of sight, Imagine thinking this is remotely comparable to being the one who must always be confident, funny, friendly, assertive, unafraid, physically attractive and be the one to risk being brutally rejected, labeled a creep or harasser for taking one misstep. But yeah, "I stood in his line of sight" constitutes some …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:30 PM
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a case of greater effort reaping greater reward. There's a few versions of this sentiment on this thread and they are all bullshit. Women get the benefit of the doubt by default. Women get approached by men and rarely / never to the opposite. Women get 'ladies nights' and all other manner of preferential treatment in social venues. None of this constitutes "effort" but a privileged bestowed by mere gender. If you are a woman you are going to get invited to parties and social events "because woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:28 PM
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Women put in more effort and work. No. They. Do. Not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:25 PM
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Then one day I see him in his element of pick up basketball finally. razzing with his friends on the sidelines. Playing confidently and skillfully on the court. Seeing him interact and maneuver freeingly in a way I haven’t before. This is another thing though. This is not preselection. I've experienced this phenomenon in other contexts. I've experienced women straight up get turned on watching me fix a car, unclog a drain, etc. That's completely different than the context of appearing with a hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:38 PM
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It’s signaling “comfort interacting socially with women.” Ah, yes. I can see that. It's basically saying "I can safely assume this guy isn't the kind of guy that repulses women on a fundamental level." I would agree that this is one of many reasons that the preselection works, but not remotely the only reason. I’m not convinced it lights her fire so to speak. It facilitates a pipeline to testing that with his other traits/interactions. Also agree with this, but again, it's underselling the power…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:35 AM
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I used an extreme example to make a point; a man who has many women around him is by no means "safe". There are plenty of shitty, misogynistic men who have women flocking to them. It strikes me as typical hamstering among women. Trying to graft on some virtuous motivation (safety) or mechanism (personality detectors) to something which is simply amoral and born of primal instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:14 PM
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If you saw woman you liked talking about 'keeping you in check' by having one foot out of the door and keeping 'other more handsome' men around You just added the "one foot out the door" part all on your own. Why? The vast majority of women have this abundance of options by default. Suddenly it's "manipulation" if a man has other more attractive women as options? What you are describing is a toxic mate-retaining strategy But does it work? it is not healthy. But does it work? Putting all of the u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 10:18 PM
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>Regardless of how many women you claim to have slept with, each woman is an individual who should not have things assumed of her, Something something poison M&M's I'll assume whatever tf I want. I'm not breaking any laws or assaulting anybody as a result. >This is a sensitive issue. Here's a tissue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:54 PM
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LMAO. Having options as a man now constitutes "emotional abuse"? Is a woman maintaining all her simps er- I mean "friends" also "emotional abuse"? Also, why are you stalking me across multiple threads?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:52 PM
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Women will try to virtue signal that this is all about the man being "safe" but, by this standard, a pimp with 10 ho's that get beat up if they don't bring daddy his money are "safe" because he has a lot of women around him. The reality is that many women experience competition anxiety to an insane degree. This is why women slut shame competitors, shame age gaps and label women "pick me's" for basically doing anything nice or sexual for their man that they themselves can't / won't do. I've notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:27 PM
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they are usually on the younger side, because younger girls like guys who also are (or look) young Exceptions do not prove the rule. It would be like saying "guy's don't like fat guys" or "guys like girls with nice asses" and pointing to some rare weirdos that pursue fat women as proving "all men are different" No. That just means there is a fringe that deviates, not that there is some reliable and significant cohort that deviates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:50 AM
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That is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:48 AM
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It's hilarious how women have to go to literal international celebrities to come up with anything even resembling this. ​ And even THEN these guys aren't getting lusted after like Chris Evans, Jason Momoa or Hemsworth. Next they're gonna bring up The Rock as an example of how much women like "balding men" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:10 PM
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I said balding not "bald by choice" Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:09 PM
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He's dating up for wealth, and I'm dating up for looks, maybe? No. Men aren't attracted to "wealth" or status. Just on if the girl is hot enough to pass the boner test and she is pleasant and not a bitch. The end. Women, however, very commonly date up for looks yet deny it. once you become an adult, you just want someone who you feel safe and comfortable around. You're talking about "relationship mode", I'm talking about "attraction and courting mode" which is a prerequisite for a relationship. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:08 PM
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What part of "sum total" didn't you understand? The point is, what a woman perceives as "value" may vary from one to another. One woman may think a guy that can play guitar is "super hot" and that puts him above her for that alone. That's *still* Hypergamy. Because he has something that she (and many others) deem as a "high status" skill. What you will never see is a woman dating a short, balding barista. But a woman could be a well paid HR rep and still date a Barista of he is an "artist" in hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:03 PM
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Girls wrote "fan fiction" of Harry Potter getting fucked by Snape too. So what? It's still in the realm of "TeeHee" fantasy. This women aren't actually going to seek out men like this for sex. Women who actually date and fuck do not seek guys like this out because these guys have no masculine frame to institute tingles when encountered in the real world This is why I said, adult women who are into these guys are in the realm of Horse Girls
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:00 PM
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young women find it attractive and thus are willing to spend money on them. They also correlate with male beauty standards in Asia. Spend Money != Pursue guys like this to actually fuck IRL. These girls see this guys as cute ornaments, not a source of orgasms via actual sex. > Plenty of normal young women find then attractive (see: asian beauty standards) We're discussing *western* women obviously. Of course Asian women in Asia have different sensibilities and sexual attraction cues. However, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:19 PM
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. i don't see how you can be in a happy functional relationship with a woman if you follow a philosophy that says she is a child in a grown up body, That is one aspect of RP, and it is highly acknowledged that this is not to be taken literally, but to be illustrative of how women tend to lack accountability when it comes to their own behavior in sex and dating,.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:39 PM
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Ok, now he's doing yoga in his seat and putting them in your face? That's a bit different than what you described, and even still, no man alive is going to complain about an otherwise attractive woman doing this unless her feet smelled like rotten eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:33 PM
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There is a huge amount of women online who lust after said adult idols while simultaneously finding them cute. They don't cancel each other out. Harry Styles != K-Pop. Harry Styles is more like a "subversive" 80's emo pop icon or post-boy-band Robbie Williams. The women who like K-pop mostly haven't sprouted pubic hair yet. And the adult women I've know are that are into them are extremely peculiar. Like Horse-girl level weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:30 PM
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What difference does it make? Maybe he had hiked 10 miles the day before, and his feet were cramping. Maybe he's a nervous flier. Women will come up the most insane reason to DQ a guy and they still try to tell men that it's "their" problem they don't attract women? "This man could have been the love of my life but he wiggled his toes on a flight that was 50 minutes long instead of an hour. Ewwww"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:27 PM
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While I don't disagree that, especially at an airport, you're going to see a whole lot of the dregs of men (exhausted traveling salesmen, guys going to sports games, sex tourists, whatever) are we just going to ignore how many "appearance hacks" even the most IDGAF woman has at her disposal? If it was acceptable for men to wear a toupee with a full head of hair, slap on a new "face" and yoga pants and uggs, you'd probably see more of a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:24 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is all it takes for you to give a woman "The Ick" and go from cute to unfuckable. Wiggling your fucking toes. Tell me again how easy it is to attract women again?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:21 PM
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>why are you so itchy to fight? Dude, you are all over this thread telling men they are dumb, clueless idiots for "not getting how women work" all over this thread. You are picking fights while humble bragging all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:18 PM
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And that is virtue signaling nonsense. It's a woman's round about way of saying "I like a out of shape man because it makes me feel better about my own body" and that's really it. Show me the dad-bonded sex symbols. Show me the romance novels, fan fiction or girl-boner post with a guy that looks like Jason Siegel or Seth Rogan. And stop with the "Walmart Couple" trope. Half those people likely became like that over time, and the other half have hellish dead bedroom relationships when the woman i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:15 PM
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>Have a look at how many No. I'm not going to "have a look" because they don't exist. Or how about you give me examples of balding, short men who are considered sex symbols in any way shape or form. It should be easy if it's a "thing" as you say. Hell there should be a subreddit with women posting pics of these guys like men have for BBW's.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:12 PM
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>sensitive pretty boy type That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about K-pop types which are lusted over the same types of teenyboppers that "lusted after" Justin Bieber when he was 14. Those girls are not thinking "I want to get fucked by this guy" they are thinking "zOmg how Keuuuute!" >Unfounded lol. I see more men drooling over the roidheads types than women. Strawman. We're not talking about some body builder douche, we're talking about guy's like John Hamm, Chris Evans, Ryan G…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:09 PM
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Man, I learned this shit myself when I was 17 or 18 if I recall. Good for you. You want a cookie? I love how there's always some guy in this thread making this "I just got it, so why can't you?" claim as if nobody else has a different lived experience than them. I was able to write 6502 assembly language code at 12 years old. Why couldn't YOU? Just look at a machine and see how it works logically and it should just come to you! It's just 1's and 0's!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:03 PM
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You ignore that the rest of family, media, and women themselves gaslight young men about this from birth. There are various ways a man can get to dating age without realizing the true nature of women. Example: One of the most insidious of the lies that are told to young men is: "She'll get tired of those arrogant, obnoxious popular boys when she gets a little older and realizes how great boys like you are." Personally, I remember in my virgin years thinking "Oh, women don't actually have sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:01 PM
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Lol maybe. No idea, but I've seen this though. Basically the sentiment is "men should have dogs as pets" and a man having a cat is feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:55 PM
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> theyre being dramatic Yes, they are. Yet you see this non-stop with women. So, I guess we conclude that women, by-and-large, are dramatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:54 PM
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Lol, collective guilt only applies to men I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:50 PM
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Show me the women's magazines with fat men on the cover. Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:50 PM
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how is it policing if no woman is enforcing it directly? Then why-oh-why do women say they need to "look a certain way" and wear makeup solely because "muh societal expectations" and "patriarchal beauty standards"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:48 PM
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Some women definitely , just look at all these girls running after kpop idols. That is not sexual, it's a "kiddie crush" kind of thing. This no different than it's ever been with tweens having crushes on and posters of "cute boys" since forever. Leaf Garret (70's), New Kids on the Block (80's), N'Sync (90's), One Direction (2000's), etc etc Once girl's start actually having sex, their preferences begin to skew far more to the masculine side when they realize these Twinkie wholesome guys can't fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:46 PM
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So true. I've heard a lot of women openly look down on "cat guys" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:41 PM
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I've never heard another woman talk about men this way. Because women don't say this shit out loud. Like so many other things, they maintain plausible deniability at all costs. It's the primary reason an RP tenet is "whatch what they do not what they say."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:39 PM
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If you actually talk to women, you will find a breadth of attributes, including physical attributes, that women find attractive. Oh? Show me the forums of women clamoring for short and/or balding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:38 PM
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This is far too literal an interpretation of what "date up" means. It doesn't mean "above her in every way" it means "the sum total of a guys traits must exceed the woman's" A female paralegal might date a male retail worker *if that retail worker looks like a male model* A female vice president of marketing might date the guy who plays guitar in a mid-tier band with a bunch of groupies. He's still *above* her in a significant way. What you'll rarely see with women is them dating down in more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:36 PM
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Well let me speak the the women including myself who don’t give these passes that you’re referring to then. The problem with this is that many many women are not self aware enough to even realize they do this. It often takes a 3rd party observing the woman to see this take place. Very often women will reverse rationalize scenarios in which 2 men behave in the exact same manner because the halo effect of their attraction makes them think "it's different" when the actual only difference is their l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:30 PM
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No, we understand all that, we just have seen enough to see women time and time again give passes to guys for being hot that they wouldn't give otherwise. What you are also failing to address is while you demand nuance and "understanding" from men, you are posting to a thread entitled: "I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sex" If that's not absolutist rhetoric (I know very well what women have to deal with in terms of creepy and hara…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:20 PM
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Could you at least try to have more nuance? You're posting on a thread titled: **"I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sex"** and you want "nuance? Take this statement from OP:' ​ They just want to fuck. That’s not flattering because that doesn’t make the woman special, just a means to an end for the guy’s desires. What woman would find that as a compliment?Woman find it flattering when men point out a good trait about their character…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:26 AM
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No, like arguing about the color of the sky with bloops on PPD for the 3752nd time. Making the statement that "women more often initiate conversations with men they are attracted to than the opposite" is about as false, inaccurate and frankly deluded statement as one can make. >it’s a blatant attempt hiding misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:36 AM
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In 2023 it’s not up to men at all to engage social interaction, it’s more likely for women to start up conversations When it comes to dating and "making a move", you don't actually believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:34 AM
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I would say men are definitely influenced by other men’s opinions when it comes to women. Those who like fat women for example, often will hook up with them secretly but not date them and be afraid of their friends finding out. What? But those men are still fucking those women. This makes no sense. Women care what others think to some extent too Lol "to some extent too". Women's tendency to go groupie over men that are popular with other women is at a nuclear level compared to anything men do wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:52 PM
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I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sex That is the title of this thread. Take any and all sexual interaction from ANYONE and of course anyone would be sad. Have you seen incels? So, thread claims men have "no clue" how bad "attention from the opposite sex" is, and you bring up "incels" as evidence of what? That attention from the opposite sex is indeed bad? Or that, women actually *want* this attention, just from 'the right guys' Po…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:42 PM
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The reactions and behaviors women exhibit when they cease getting all sexual attention or experience sexual rejection destroys this entire argument IMO. Let's not even get into the amount of thirst traps (subtle and overt) women post on social media. Just say you don't want attention from guys you aren't attracted to and leave it at that. I don't like getting accosted by fat women either, but I'm not gonna sit here and write a treatise on "muh sexual attention is degrading" because if a hot woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:20 PM
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Ok correction: manstering
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:16 PM
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. It does not require an unhealthy age dynamic or taking advantage of other people. How about "unhealthy height dynamic" or "unhealthy strength dynamic" or "unhealthy income dynamic" or "unhealthy intelligence dynamic" or "unhealthy sexual value dynamic"? Funny how the only dynamic you and other PPD women are concerned about just so happens to correlate with one of if not the biggest existential fears for women; aging out of attractiveness and being replaced by a younger model. But, I'm sure tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:08 PM
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Question: Have you ever met a RP'er IRL? If so, how would you know? This is the same old "personality detector" nonsense that gets trotted out time and again. It's not an argument, and even if it was, the notion that "misogynistic" men don't have success with women is also demonstrably false. Some people dont have worst parts to show LOL. Even you don't believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:38 PM
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Um, not only is that not hamstering, um, but that's also not ironic. A woman claiming hamstering isn't a thing that women do, while hamstering is the very definition of ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:37 PM
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Lol. No. It just seems like that to women because they don't know how to communicate among men. Ever hear the saying: "Men are mean to each other, and don't mean it." "Women are nice to each other, and don't mean it." It's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:35 PM
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Like you just said, "I am going here/doing x, you coming?" Is better than "what do you wanna do today?" and much better than "would you like to do x with me?" This is actually a great crystallization of things. RP teaches: "I am going here/doing x, you coming?" BP teaches: "would you like to do x with me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:32 PM
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Its evil. But does it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:37 AM
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yeah its about tricking women into sex. The fuck does this even mean? Like hypnosis or identity theft? You know what's crazy? I've been hit on by plenty of gay men in my life. Not one of them managed to "trick me into sex" Funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:32 AM
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Do you walk up to people and show them every worst part of you right away? No? Congratulations, you just "tricked people into liking you"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:30 AM
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Um, those women exist by the thousands. You can and will encounter them at any bar or club in any city on any weekend. You, ironically, are hamstering with this very response.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:27 AM
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Lol what? RP is the side that tells men they are not "okay how they are". They tell men if they are failing to stfu, get to the gym, fix their style and become more social. How is that not accountability? Meanwhile "yes kween! You're great at your 300 lbs self! You don't need to change anything! Also that Chad you went home with the other night took advantage of you! OMG, you had 3 drinks that night! So what Chad had 7 drinks, he should have known better because he's the adu- I mean... privilege…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:23 AM
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We're talking about the dominant narrative here, not what you heard some random guy say once. Are you claiming that this "kween" rhetoric is not mainstream and commonplace in 2023? Any man talking the way you just described is roundly called "entitled" and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:20 AM
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Nah, it's possible to "become hot" to her, and if you maintain your options / abundance and dread, you're good. The main thing is to always be able to walk away, preferably to another girl. Even better if that other girl is as hot or hotter than her. No matter how much "better" than you she is, it will keep her in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:19 AM
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Related to #2 As a man, you basically must "Risk Creepy" to have a shot. If you play it safe, you will go sexless for a very, very long time unless you are Chad. Women, even if they are utterly indecisive themselves, absolutely despise "I don't know what I want to eat" type guys. It's better to make the wrong decision confidently and stick to it, then hem and haw over "what would please her" and let her see you flail around over it. Personally, I'm highly indecisive about stuff like food, but wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:16 AM
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Great post. I've become good at creating "fun little serendipitous moments" out of whole cloth. It's like freestyle rapping. You have a whole bunch of parts that you know go together, and then you improvise in their assembly on the fly, but at the end of the day you're still "rhyming" If a woman says "I like X", I might know a place that will have an X vibe, but I won't say "Let's go to X place because Y"... I'll go to another place first, then we'll spontaneously "end up" at X place because it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:06 AM
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1) In your life you will meet at most 3 women you can really make a lifelong commitment to and really make it work. Your challenge is to find one of those 3 women. Based. Painfully true. I've had 2 of these so far. With 1 I could have prevented, but I dragged my feet fulling committing to her and she cheated, with another she just had too many mental health issues and I didn't help her work through them as well as I could and we were just emotionally incompatible in too many ways. But I still fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:01 AM
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Right, because as well all know men don't tell eachother to improve themselves, but instead are constantly telling each other they are "perfect how they are" and to "know their worth", telling each other "don't settle" and insinuating to each other that they are literal royalty regardless of their appearance or life situation... oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:54 AM
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I can’t really see why any woman with a healthy sense of self respect could be turned on by being spat on or called horrible names. Do you not see how judgmental and shitty this is? I don't see why 2 men like fucking each other, but I don't tell them they are "wrong" for liking it. Why do people feel the need to tell other people what the 'right' sexual proclivities are? You could argue that having a dick in your mouth is "humiliating" too. People seem to only clutch pearls and be "confused" whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:44 AM
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Oh…and if your response is going to basically boil down to “nuh-uh…women started it!” then you’ll probably never have to worry about hearing from me again, because I’ll have facepalmed myself to death! ;-) No, I'm not going to do that. This is very well thought out and comprehensive response, so I'm going to have to take some time to compose a proper response of my own. I did want to say I appreciate you taking the time to articulate your thoughts as well as you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:36 AM
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Totally. Crazy how people are still living like it's Red Dawn / Rambo / Rocky IV
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:38 PM
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Man, so much this. Once I figured out the whole "I want to try this place X, and made reservations. You down?" vs the famous womanese "IDK, what do you feel like eating?" things changed. Despite it being not my normal way, I'll also always remember the absolute look of shock and being turned on by this one chick who was being a ridiculous brat about something on a date and I nicely but firmly told her "Listen, X, that's fine if you want to go do that, but I'm telling you now if you continue, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:37 PM
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Let's not reduce this to absurdities. "Not assertive" is not the same as "Doormat"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:21 PM
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Yes it can, in rare cases. I've slept with plenty of girls who were "meh" about me after interacting with them for a period of time. This is what "game" is. Of course, there are limits. My guidelines: If she's initially attracted: You rarely can turn a yes into a no. If she's indifferent: You can rarely turn a maybe into a yes. If she finds you ugly: You can never turn a no into a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:20 PM
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I mean, "conventional warfare" is itself becoming more rare, so I'd say that India and China aren't "threats" the way Russia was perceived to be, so I get how people are stuck in that mindset. IMO, China has done more damage to the social fabric of the US with TikTok than any military operation ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:12 PM
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right wing, loves Trump and America only because the Iranian regime hates them These types are so weird. You see this a lot with Cubans and Vietnamese for similar reasons. It's basically like "America saved me from a bad situation, so I'm going to like the guy with the biggest flag on his truck"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:04 PM
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but by and large, what the guy looks like is a relatively small part of what makes us say no And this type of ridiculous claim is why men will never #believewomen Please sell this fantasy elsewhere. I'm not buying and neither is any other man with actual experience observing women around exceptionally physically attractive men. Statements as the above are precisely why RP exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:49 PM
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There’s a power imbalance in age gaps. It’s very difficult for someo[SNIP] I knew this trope was coming. A relationship with an age gap gives one party power over the other in every single aspect of the relationship. This is a twitterbrained unhinged take. But hey, maybe you're right. Adult women can make their own decisions about anything and everything. They can drive 2 ton vehicles, join the military, take on a lifetime of debt, but if they make the decision is to date an older man, then they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:46 PM
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how many common insults are there that are specifically focused on female sexuality? Without thinking about it, the tip of my brain has “whore, slut, slag, frigid…” Your response might have some merit in 1950. Now do "predator, groomer, creep, lech, pervert, incel, virgin, little dick, insecure, gay" etc etc I'm sure I'm missing plenty from my list as well. Some of those labels can literally land a man in legal trouble and ruin him for life. You also conveniently failed to point out that women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:43 PM
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so your way of addressing this isn’t to…you know…stop acting like sex and sexuality is dirty and wrong and unnatural This is what women do every day when they try to shame everything from age gaps to passport bros. but instead to say “women are filthy, gross degenerates - just like men?” Huh. You threw in "gross" which is a judgement word to me. Filthy degenerate to me is actually a good thing as it shows a lack of judgement and shows I don't feel like I'm "above" anybody else. Unlike the judgme…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:32 PM
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men love to lecture us on what our sexual and romantic choices mean Because, wait for it, men date and have sex with many women in a life time and are privy to the incongruence between their stated preferences and their actual behaviors in private, wherea an individual womAn knows what she alone thinks (if they are uncommonly self aware) versus what she does and what their friends tell them they think (which is generally lies constructed to make themselves look virtuous)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:23 PM
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we’re really not a hive mind, you know Unless it's something good, then "Women like kind, respectful, attentive and emotionally vulnerable men" See how this works? Good things "all women"... Morally grey things "only SOME women" pretty danged sheltered to be shocked that men masturbate to porn. There are tons of women on PPD alone that claim they would leave a man if they found out he "ever watched porn" …But a lot of women aren’t actually even comfortable admitting that they watch porn. It’s ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:21 PM
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I know it’s tough to believe, but it’s almost like we’re all complex individuals who don’t hold the same opinions on every single thing. It's almost like this only gets said when there's something potentially "problematic" about what's being observed. When it's "women supporting eachother" or "women liking people for their personality" or "women thinking age gaps are gross" then... yeah suddenly it's "This is how women are" (as in all women) But women are people with agency, and can absolutely e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:17 PM
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Great and insightful take. Made me really think and the first part is important (for me as well) to remember. There is no single source or "one size fits all" explanation when it comes to sexuality, and these "kinks" or whatever we want to call them don't all come from the same place, and none of this makes any of it "wrong". My issue is how we have a tendency to pathologize male sexual preferences while rationalizing women's even when it's, by definition, extreme or deviant. My argument is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:34 PM
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No, it's interanlized misogyny, coping with trauma and the male gaze or some shit... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:54 PM
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I read an insightful comment here on PPD about how a rape fantasy is, at its core, the woman fantasizing about being so attractive to a man that he loses control and forgets the rules of society and basic morality and just has to have her. No. This is women trying to put a moral "nice girl" face on what is very simple. Women live with men walking on eggshells for them, simping, bending over backwards to not make them uncomfortable. They experience sex with timid guys who continue this theme of "…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:52 PM
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It is. It's trotted out when they need a scary bogeyman to show how "sick and perverted" men are. Then, when it's women watching it, suddenly it's "a liberating coping mechanism"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:42 PM
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If a guy likes roughness in sex because it’s fun and he enjoys it, cool Oh no you don't. I know this rhetorical trick on PPD too well to let it go. It's suddenly "cool" in this thread because we are discussing how women's preferences being can often be more "problematic" than men's. If we were discussing this in any other thread or context in terms of male porn consumption or sexual habits, it would be "this is close to rape" and "he coerced her into letting him do it" regardless of how into it …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:38 PM
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Would a man who could actually fuck hot cheerleaders 2 at a time, need to watch porn that depicts hot cheerleaders fucking a guy 2 at a time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:35 PM
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That's a lot of words to essentially say women are like children with no accountability or self awareness. And the most charitable explanation, that women "fear telling the truth because some guy might take it the wrong way" should absolutely convey something even worse; That women should never be believed because they'll lie out of convenience. Women seldom deny that they like the men they find desirable to be dominant, covetous and horny for them. These are weasel words. Let's be specific. Sla…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:31 PM
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And a 30 year old man dating an 18 year old woman isn't "actual pedophilia" yet tons of women on PPD will call it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:26 PM
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As I said, women's strategy on PPD is utterly consistent: Bad Thing: OMG women aren't a hive mind! Plus men do this more! Good Thing: That's women for you! Why can't men do this?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:26 PM
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It sure as fuck wasn’t to get off, although I did return to some categories for that purpose when I was single. Hint: not violent or degrading shit. It’s not sexy. Solipsism. "If me, medlabunicorn don't do it, no other women do it either!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:24 PM
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Your entire premise trying to claim I analogized men watching women "get abused" in porn was not something I said. Read it again: Cool. Is it possible that men are watching porn to "cope" with being sexually rejected by women and "heal" from a breakup? Show me where I said "abusive" here. Or is this charitable estimation only given to women watching women getting choked and spit on? And this is exactly what you did. I'll ignore the first half of your message as it appears to be a genuine misunde…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:19 PM
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Lol. Ahh yes the old "research purposes" excuse huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:43 PM
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This is a debate sub. Some intellectual, moral and factual consistency is important. I have a question: Do you think the notion that women are averse to accountability and agency for their own decisions came out of nowhere? When you read these responses, can you see how a young man trying to make sense of women's words vs actions can be confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:42 PM
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watching misogynistic content as a man vs a woman doing so it a little more morally grey and onimous since it is men that overwhelmingly commit those crimes I think this is one of the reasons that contributes to a misogyny fetish and women viewing themselves as sexual objects. Oh for fucksake. This shit again? Accountability really is kryptonite huh? Heads men lose. Tails women win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:40 PM
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Your comment was the "no true scotsman" fallacy that women bring up every time something that is common sense is denied by women. Women filter by height and in real life and every man knows this. Women deny it anyway by saying "that's only women on OLD" You were claiming that "it's not the general population of women" because you question the statistical reliability, when you can see tons of men here telling you that many random women are asking for this shit IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:37 PM
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While I agree, there's less hamstering about "muh internalized misogyny", I feel like the jig is up when it comes to this stuff because Too many men have first hand experience with women straight up asking for this stuff The data can't be as easily hamstered away like data from OLD is And even still, you see the old "coping mechanism" trope being trotted out. It's like women are allergic to saying "Yeah, I'm a pervert just like men and I like some crazy sexual stuff because it gets my pussy wet.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:33 PM
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The first is that a lot of women, including myself, have been both shamed (and, thus, ashamed themselves) of being sexual beings and having sexual urges. A lot of men are "shamed" for being sexual failures. Yet women love to shame men for watching porn as a sexual outlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:27 PM
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I'd bet many dollars this is a result of women trying to cope and heal from either a thing that has happened to them or that they greatly fear will happen to them. Cool. Is it possible that men are watching porn to "cope" with being sexually rejected by women and "heal" from a breakup? Or is this charitable estimation only given to women watching women getting choked and spit on? As for enjoying a bit of roughness, yeah, that's fun and feels good. Except when men want it, it's suddenly "problema…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:25 PM
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Lol of course. Let me guess, women are doing it for "research" or to "heal from trauma" and men are doing it because they are "disgusting predatory perverts" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:22 PM
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I really hate hearing men talk about what women experience sexually. So you hate hearing from the people that actually, you know, actually engage sexually with many women in their lifetime and share their experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:10 PM
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If just having a vagina is enough to ‘coerce’ someone then they need to hit up some serious therapy. Shaming male sexuality again. What a surprise. Men are uniquely vulnerable to women's sexual manipulation. This isn't news. Women use their sexuality to benefit from men in small and big ways dozens of times per day all while TeeHee'ing about it as if they don't know what they're doing. Also, do you apply your same "need some serious therapy" standard to women you deem are "coerced" by: Older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:08 PM
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Because "huge numbers" is completely subjective. Funny how "men are X" is said constantly and nobody bats an eye huh? How many times do you hear "Why do so many men..." blablabla? If women are NOT wonderful because of consuming that type of porn, what does that mean for men who consume over twice as much of it and a higher percentage of it? Or maybe, bear with me now, maybe somebody consuming porn doesn't mean jack shit in terms of how good / bad of a person they are? Funny how it takes pulling …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:05 PM
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A woman having a pussy and using her body to attract thirsty men is the very definition of "coercion".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:03 PM
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men have a shitty tendency to be attracted to only looks Let me guess, "Muh Sapiosexual"? Of course, here we go with the "shaming men for wanting to fuck hot women" as if women are above this behavior, despite every man seeing women turn into 12 year old giggly girls when around a guy who is merely physically hot before fucking him in the club bathroom or worse. This nonsense is precisely why we say "Men don't redpill other men, women do."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:01 PM
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Dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:59 PM
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Lol of course. When women get off to degenerate porn it's some kind of "coping mechanism" and not just because they are pornsick weirdos. How about when men get off to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:54 PM
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The sheer number of women I've had sex with that straight up asked for this stuff shows this to be incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:53 PM
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People are allowed to have fetishes, no problems with that. Apparently men aren't though, or they're called "pornsick creeps"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:10 PM
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LMAO, riiight. Except constant refrains of "pornsick men" and how men dating younger (legal) women is "grooming and disgusting" and they constantly lament "power imbalances" that lead to "coercive sex" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:00 PM
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Fetishes are just that. Fetishes. You don't control them and develop usually from very young ages from external stimuli and internalized messages. Do you apply the same charitable appraisal when it comes to men watching porn and having "kinks"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:56 PM
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Ah yes, the old "Filtering by height is only a thing that shallow women on OLD" do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:44 PM
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Jesus Christ. The lengths women will go to deny what we all know: "Women like to be dominated in bed" But, no - that's "problematic" so now we've got to talk about "pleasure and chemistry and... noise" or whatever the fuck. Lots of women love to be dominated and even humiliated. This isn't that complicated. Stop trying to dress this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:42 PM
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Nothing new, most women want to be dominated sexually no matter how hard they try to deny it. It's this. This is why men have such a hard time believing women about anything, because they invoke plausible deniability and hamstering when discussing things they would absolutely condemn men for in the next breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:34 PM
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Rough sex doesn’t really qualify as “violent” imo. *when a woman says so Lol. This is what we call hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:33 PM
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But this is why men can't take women at their word (especially PPD women) When women do something "bad" (like consume violent porn) suddenly "Women are not a monolith sweaty!" some women like it, some women don't. But then when the question is asked about a different thing in a different way, suddenly "ewww no young woman wants to date an old man!" and "you're just porn sick thinking any woman wants to be degraded!" etc You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:31 PM
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Why do people insist on doing gymnastics to whistle past the fact that women are consuming this porn in huge numbers? I suspect it's because it doesn't fit the "women are wonderful" narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:29 PM
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Let's also not forget "OMG serial killers are so fascinating! (and often hot)" and their addiction to true crime. Women seem to literally become aroused from anxiety and fear, and it seems that porn might just be another means of doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:26 PM
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In men you may have also heard the term, "fear boner" that also shows men have similar responses in the face of fear. Never once heard this, and certainly never experienced this. My dick becomes a fucking acorn when I'm in fight / flight mode or have anxiety which is literally the bodies physiological response to project a man's junk when fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:24 PM
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BDSM is always used as a tool to demonize men and it's clear irrefutable evidence men's misogyny and objectification of women, but >every single time it is revealed that there are more women into it it's all good and dandy, means nothing and hardcore porn consumption becomes perfectly ok. It's this. Men watching vanilla porn: "zOMG! pornsick loser! Stop objectifying women!" Women watching gang rape: "TeeHee. It's just a fantasy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:23 PM
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Why do people keep trying to flip this around? Stop trying to paint a happy face on a shitty tendency that women have. The point is, it's clear that women's concept of what an average man looks like physically is wildly skewed. It doesn't matter if it's because "muh personality" or "have to get to know him", the point is, that this skewed perception causes all manner of problems, most notably that women are far less likely to "get to know him" if the guy isn't in the highest tier of looks in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:18 PM
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lol yea, i’m sure you’re a charismatic charmer in real life. you’re proving my point with that bitter, dejected rant. Ah yes, as well all know there is a very high correlation between who we imagine somebody online to be IRL and who they actually are. Lol. Women's famous personality detectors even extend to anonymous online forums nowadays apparently. I guess all the girls I hooked up with this year were just ignoring my post history on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:08 AM
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Sounds like you might need to touch some grass. Sounds like you might need to not use tropes in place of actual arguments. I assure you, I'm not some shut-in / sexually frustrated blackballer. I have an active dating life, and do ok with hooking up occasionally and have plenty of friends. It's my exposure to the actual in-field dating realities that led me to these conclusions, so miss me with the "touch grass" shit. What's next: "Who hurt you?" The average man can find another person if he want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:06 AM
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The guys and women looked like they were just enjoying each other’s company. Good for them. It's not data and not relevant what one person saw on a night out at a restaurant. Most men who are unsuccessful are going to be well below average (short and bad looking) Define short. Plenty of women will call men 5'9 "short" and even if they don't, highly prefer a man at 6ft. If that woman has 4-5 guys pursuing her, the 5'9 guy is going to have to out do the 6'0 guys by a large degree in other areas, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:48 AM
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How many times does this need to be posted for people to get it? If you need more evidence, there's plenty. Like this classic thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/iax1vi/question_for_women_how_often_do_you_see_a_man/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:37 AM
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I went to a restaurant today and saw so many average men with attractive women. Oh, well that settles it. You certainly got the full story. Couldn't be those guys are foodie calls, friend zoned or you are a bad judge of what constitutes an attractive man and woman. Hey, I've gone to 10 restaurants and seen fit, handsome men with fat ham beasts of women all over the place. See? I already blew up your "data" The men who really can’t get anywhere despite trying are well below average Or they're in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:32 AM
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the type of guy to get on these groups and complain about this stuff generally have aggressively bad vibes to the point it’s unpleasant to be around them. I always love this cop-out. How in the hell do women on PPD think they know anything about how a guy acts IRL based on his reddit posts. That's the most asinine take ever. It's like going on a kink sub where women talk about wanting to be choked and spit on during sex are introducing themselves as "little slut" and wearing dog collars to work.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:24 AM
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Every woman thinks 80% of men are "ugly" When the West Elm Caleb story broke, women here on PPD were calling him a "4" and he was banging multiple women at once. There are girls that call Chris Hemsworth "ugly".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:19 AM
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So your contention is that women's standards have not changed whatsoever in the past 10-20 years and that men have experienced no change whatsoever in terms of finding it difficult to find dates? Is this what you're claiming? If so, you're dead and provably wrong on every count. https://medium.com/hello-love/the-number-of-sexless-men-has-tripled-in-10-years-why-e97e7165d2a1 https://www.fayobserver.com/story/news/2019/03/29/share-of-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/5583836007/ htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:17 AM
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Yeah, that sounds about right, numbers wise, for that year. So, a 5'4, 200 lbs man banged 24 women in one year? I'm inclined to Press X To Doubt on this unless the women were below average or the place you took a trip to was Amsterdam. It's north of 40 Ok, so well over half of that number was within a single year? Again, this sounds like somebody that used pro's. You know why it was like that? Because girls don't go for 'pick up artists' or 'bad boys' or that shit. Bloop platitudes alarm is flas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:29 PM
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getting laid twice a month as a single man. That puts you at 24 new partners per year. Basically top 1% percentile. This is in no way an "average man" experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:25 PM
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We’re just filtering out the lazy opportunists who will say yes to anything Pretty much. It’s worked for me, and I am very average. Great. I mean, it's not news that guys with game aren't going to bend over backwards for what constitutes 'average' in the US (ie 5'4 / 175lbs) No guy with options is orbiting Lena Dunham.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:23 PM
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. I can tell you (and I'm def an average looking guy) that one year of being single, I averaged 2x a month. Then you're not average. I also went on a trip abroad to Europe and got laid 6 times in 10 days. This is circumstantial and not a sustainable number. It's a blip. We're talking about day-to-day life for an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:12 PM
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Most women aren’t worth the effort of big game hunters Well on this, we can agree. However, the guy's willingness to make an effort for one woman (ie see her as 'big game') is directly correlated to how many options he has. So, at the end of the day, you'll never know if that guy is chasing a woman because she's "the one" or if she's "the best he can get right now" Neither of these scenarios prevent a man from circumventing women's famous "personality detectors" In short, the notion that women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:53 PM
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If you don't think women are entitled, just try rejecting one for sex and watch the complete and utter meltdown that occurs (usually involving accusations of the man being gay, impotent or afraid).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:38 PM
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if they get rejected, that means they're not attractive, which in turn means they're worthless as people. Whereas most men have been told since childhood that we're ugly as shit, and have therefore developed a sort of social callous so it doesn't bother us as much. This is a great point, and is one of the reasons I'm sort of happy I was always just ugly enough to have to work at being attractive to women rather than just passively getting it. It's like being born with a handicap. You learn to li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:36 PM
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If a man wants to get to know you, he will. See this is where bloops lose the plot. The threshold for "get to know you" is directly correlated to how hot the guy is. The short, nerdy guy will have to ask about your hopes and dreams for 3 months before he holds your hand. Chad will ask what your favorite sex position is, and suddenly "he really cares about knowing me" Waiting and not approaching weeds out the lazy, low effort opportunists No, it weeds out guys with no game or confidence. You know…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:30 PM
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A surge in condom sales would be in line with this: Not really. If Chad is having more sex he needs more condoms. This says nothing about the amount of unique men having sex, only of the amount of sex sessions. Personally, I think we are seeing a combination of things that exacerbate the visibility of sexless men, but I don't think for a second that the number of sexless men isn't at record high levels. This defies common sense that even the biggest bloops would have to acknowledge. The record n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:20 PM
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First, these studies always 2 very important data points. The questions should go like this: Have you had sex in the past year? Was this by choice? Could you have had sex in the past year if you wanted to? Do you feel that going without sex negatively effects your mental health? In short, I believe that if 20% of men and women report going "without sex" in the past year, the reality of the male sex drive makes the impact of these stats on the indivudual wildly different. As far as who represents…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:13 PM
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Also, why is looking like a dude such a terrible thing? For a woman? Nevermind, do your thing man. We all have our fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:49 PM
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I only ever heard that life is over, for women after 30. which is ridiculous but still. Well on this we can agree. That is indeed ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:34 PM
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Dude stop. There are some women that straight up look like men without makeup. The vast majority of women benefit greatly from applying makeup strategically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:58 PM
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"The wall" as I understand it simply means the point at which a woman must begin to compromise her hypergamic standards in order to secure a mate and the resulting existential impact from that realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:44 PM
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not 18 year old virgin or something. Stop with this straw man. We're talking about what men are primally attracted to. Only PPD women are the ones making dumb statements like "zomg older men who date younger women are predators!". I have no problem saying to the 'age matched' couples - more power to you. It's not my place to judge them for choosing who they do. I also acknowledge that many women can be hot into middle age. Take it up with other RP'ers if you want to argue against the '18 year ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:40 PM
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Let's just argue with straw men all day!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:01 AM
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She's 53, and looks like a porn star. Exceptions exist. Same with guys like John Hamm or George Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:01 AM
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Lol so one rich manlet dates a woman that looks like a MILF porn star who is near his age and suddenly... what? "zOMG, see guys, this proves men don't prefer younger women after all!1!" But let's recap, shall we? yet one of the most wealthy people in the world is getting married to a 56 year old. She's 53 And not some 21 year old virgin. Straw man. Yet hes marrying a women who is near his age and has 3 previous children. Also, while she may have had an excess of "work" done, she is still sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:55 AM
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Then show some current data or stfu. No. It's all over the place. I'm not going to bring up the same damn graphs and articles repeatedly so people can go "muh flawed study!" or "only picking shallow women!" I'm done citing evidence for this because, frankly, it's been documented to death. I'm not interested in arguing about the color of the sky. Social Media has done to women's brains what women always claimed Porn would do to men's. Show some evidence that below average looking men don’t overwh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:33 AM
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We've all seen this gaslighting non-response, along with "online dating isn't real life!" and "The women are shallow in online dating!" etc. Bullshit. Online dating is merely an extension of social media in general at this point, and for most women that is a HUGE part of life, especially dating. Regardless of how old this data is, you'd have to be delusional to believe that things haven't gotten worse since then. You actually think women's standards have become more reasonable in the past 5 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:04 AM
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a tall, skinny, long-haired man is not a conventionally attractive man. What??? This makes no sense. A tall skinny long haired man with perfect skin, facial symmetry, cheekbones and a sharp jaw is "conventionally" attractive by any reasonable standard. You just described half the K-pop twinks for godsake.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:30 PM
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When it comes to dating women in the aggregate, men do know women better than they know themselves because (news flash) straight women don't date other straight women. It's similar to weird shit guys might do in bed that many women know about but men don't. Straight men aren't fucking other men, so they only know what they do and how they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:25 PM
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it matters what they can pull. But even fat women can "pull" drunk horny Chads at 1:50am consistently and that is the problem. They do that and then start to believe that's what they "deserve" and that's "their level"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:21 PM
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It means the average guy is attractive to the average woman. You can't be serious here. I'm sure you've seen this? why would an average woman want to compete with actresses and models? Oh. Ok, you're not serious. Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:16 PM
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Bingo: "Ewww no young women want to date old guys!" "Ewww no woman wants a fuck boy!" "Ewww no women want to date a misogynist!" very next thread "Women like tall, confident guys with hunter eyes and defined jawlines" "OMG! wOmEn aRe nOt a MonoLitH!1!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:10 PM
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there's literally nothing stopping men from being confident Did you just skip over the part of the OP where he listed several examples of things preventing young men (today) from developing confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:03 PM
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OK, he'll be confident in attracting women 1000s of miles away that probably want citizenship. As if western women don't use men for any myriad of things (instagram clout, free dinners, bragging rights for banging a Chad, etc) I love how western women immediately jump to "they are just using you" trope. Trust me, as a white guy that has dated plenty of American women of SEA descent, they absolutely bump you up multiple points just for being white. Also, far fewer Asian-American girls have this "…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:02 PM
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If men would ease up on women and dial back the slut shaming and projection, women would be more open and enthusiastic about sex. *with Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:17 PM
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Preach. Women get to take on whatever "role" they want when it's convenient, but (despite lip service about 'emotional availability') only want men to take on the traditionally masculine role so they can "feel safe" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:58 AM
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If you'd rather not discuss the original topic or if you feel we've reached a conclusion, please let me know, and we can end the conversation here. Lol why is this written like a customer service form letter? Did somebody just start using chatGPT to debate on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:39 AM
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In b4 "omg! online isn't real life!" teehee.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:32 AM
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Again, you are equating 2 anonymous office drone guys making a fucking innocuous dad joke amongst themselves and some hysterical clout chasing Karen trying to "call them out" and "make them famous" and make them lose their jobs (and having it backfire on her) with ... whatever that list was you made, which includes somebody tearing up a photo of a religious leader with hundreds of millions of followers, a woman who blew a married man and somebody who provoked the right wing mob in a time of war"…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:32 PM
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Basically, the first question you need to ask somebody before engaging in this conversation is this: "Do you define need as only including that which without you will die?" Because, in this context (ie - a man's ability to have sex), it means "something that going without greatly decreases your quality of life to the point of negatively (potentially severely) affecting your mental and physical well-being" and "Having access to it greatly improves your quality of life" Other things that aren't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:05 PM
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And have the vast majority of women see them as "gay" and give them "the ick" thus further removing themselves from sexual viability for women. As always, women can't grasp that men's behavior is ultimately centered around appealing to the female gaze. If women fucked men who were openly, physically affectionate with men the way women are with each other, men would be giving eachother massages in public constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:01 PM
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Factually stating what he said in a public place where he has no expectation of privacy she called him out for irrefutably breaking the conference rules against "sexual language." her EXTREME reaction was to accurately state what had been said, take a picture of him in a public place where he has no expectation of privacy "SEXUAL LANGUAGE!1!1!" No. They weren't talking about throat fucking or a girl's tits. They made a fucking "Fork / Depot" joke. My god. Do people not hear themselves when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:38 PM
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That's precisely what I'm saying. I said men give each other constructive advice rather than gassing up their friend's delusion. Bill Burr nailed the phenomenon of women doing this shit perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZoeFaLsUeY
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:31 AM
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The man in question admitted he was wrong So he did an apology tour. He got fired for something utterly ridiculous. She got fired for being an insufferable cunt who tried to socially assassinate a guy for a ... say it with me ... JOKE. And you want to claim this means "cancel culture isn't real"? This is exactly what we're talking about. Making an utterly tepid joke will now get some hysterical woman putting you on blast. What she got was quite literally a consequence of her taking an EXTREME go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:25 AM
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This is a very long way of saying "feels before reals" We have become ever more tolerant of gluttonous behavior with each passing year. Has obesity increased or decreased? And you are being obtuse. We're not talking about "loving and respecting" fat people, we're talking about society celebrating them for being "brave" for... the mere act of existing while fat. We aren't simply saying "they should be allowed to exist in public", we are putting them on the cover of SPORTS ILLUSTRATED SWIMSUIT ISS…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:14 AM
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Are there any examples of men being "cancelled" because they appropriately approached a woman? Approached? Maybe not, but shit like this is becoming increasingly common: Remember This? And, yes there was actually some fall out from it that effected the woman, but, I assure you that would never happen today. https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spiraled-way-out-of-control/ 10 years ago there was actually a debate as to whether or not what she did to "call out" 2 random guys making…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:48 PM
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Saying you aren’t attracted to fat women is fine? It’s bad when people speak about fat people with hatred, just for existing, that’s objectively shitty. Now do when people actually just make an objective assessment of the situation like when Jillian Michaels cautioned against making Lizzo some kind of physical role model https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/15/21060692/lizzo-jillian-michaels-body-positivity-backlash They’re invited because somewhere along the way sports illustrated decided it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:33 PM
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I don’t think that a man has to feel that I’m a 10 Except men get shamed for accurately saying that Lizzo is unattractive. people have to value themselves to avoid being hurt and treated like they’re worthless. You don't think there's something in between: I'm a 10/10 kween and "I'm worthless"? How about: "I'm a work in progress. I know I need to lose some weight, but I'll get there and I won't give up until I do." You know, like how men give advice to eachother rather than enabling themselves t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:21 PM
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So women lie to themselves when they don't like the answer? How is this a positive thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:08 PM
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So, basically feels before reals. Do women get that this type of magical thinking is precisely why men don't listen to women? How can you be expected to be taken seriously in other aspects of life when even your internal dialogue is one big self deception?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:07 PM
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Have I called literally anyone here a groomer, creep or oedohile? Seriously. I’ll literally pay you if you can find an example of me doing that. You and your friends are trying to frame large age gaps as this awesome thing that everybody else loves Have I literally said this? I’ll literally pay you if you can find an example of me doing that. me reason. I’m telling you that no, many women living within these cultures don’t like it. There we go with that "many" word again. That could mean 10 wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:02 PM
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Why do old men get so pissy when young women suggest….. you know, maybe not all of us wanna date you guys? Umm because certain women (ahem) like to throw around terms like groomer, creep, predator and ridiculous fairytales like "muh can't get women your own age" in attempt to shame men for daring to have and pursue their own preferences. Guess only women are allowed to do that though (what else is new on PPD) Yayyyyyy you are a womanizer, congrats you’re so amazing, want a cookie. What? I'm a "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:41 PM
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Apparently we're talking about whatever makes age gaps look bad to suit the bedroom police's argument. Now suddenly it's "teens" lol Some of my relationships: Me: 27 Her: 19 Me: 29 Her: 40 Me: 32 Her: 21 Me: 46 Her:25 Me: 47 Her: 30 Please tell me which ones of these I should apologize and repent for while acknowledging you know exactly nothing about the specifics of each of these circumstances. Which ones of these pass the test of your "Ministry of Vice and Virtue" so I know for the future when…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:24 PM
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I am half hispanic, nobody on my hispanic side of my family would GAF about Age gaps. This is damn near exclusively a western thing and the US / UK in particular. It's become a damn near TikTok meme that anybody 5 years older than their partner is a "groomer" One person's mom not wanting her daughter to "make the same mistakes their grandmother did" or whatever is irrelevant. Culturally it barely raises an eyebrow outside of the west and how has been pointed out has historically never been in al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:12 PM
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Man, thank you for spitting facts like this without needing to resort to hyperbole. As much as I tend to find myself attracted to Asian women, I fully recognize it's for the traits themselves not for the "asianness" and that western / white women are fully capable of having the same traits, they are just harder to find. My preferences are: Petite Feminine Cute neotenous facial features Athletic Tan Smoother / Less hairy skin Soft spoken / Mellow (as I am) Those traits just happen to seem to be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:08 PM
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If she’s drawing parallels between you and an ex there’s probably a reason and she needs to heal, go to therapy, and pick men that better suit her needs So basically, 90% of women over the age of 35. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:00 PM
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fiancé came home from dinner with "friend" and was discovered around the corner getting dry fucked by him by my other friend who happened to be in the neighborhood. She came home giddy and smiley, kissed me without a care in the world. Went out with Chad friend, met up with married couple. Woman immediately locks on to my Chad friend despite this being their anniversary. Went to my house for drinks from the bar, the woman tries to convince me and her husband to "go get more booze" while she "sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:27 PM
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Watching women at work still flock to a guy who was 100% confirmed to be physically abusive and gave two female coworkers a black eye. (insert Seinfeld eating popcorn "that's a shame" meme)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:17 PM
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I can’t tell you how many women I slept with just because they heard what “sounded hot” the night before or some bullshit. but women will tell you that "preselection" is merely about "knowing a guy is safe" or some shit... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:16 PM
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women like husbands who see them as people and not trophies. Sure, they "like" those husbands, but they still desire to fuck the indifferent and aloof Chad, and that is the part of women's sexual nature men need to come to terms with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:11 PM
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The person telling you that there is someone for everyone clearly wasn't talking about getting laid in nightclubs Umm yes they were. Look at PPD and you'll find exactly ZERO women admitting to being hungry for Chad's cock, but will instead drone on and on about how they "need to get to know a guy" and "I'm not impressed by a guy's looks" "they can smell misogyny a mile away" Women are addicted to projecting a "just world" fallacy when it comes to casual sex. They must maintain the kayfabe of onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:09 PM
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The same people that hear women say shit like "I like kind men" and "You just need to be well groomed, and dress well" and invent utterly dumb ass gaslighting virtue signals like "sapiosexual" So, basically, all men who #believewomen at some point have to realize women are not to be listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:07 PM
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Emotionally Vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:05 PM
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How is this "fear mongering" half the stories in this thread, I've seen multiple times IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:04 PM
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The dude loses it and starts protesting and yelling. Danielle tells him to get the fuck out. 🤣🤣🤣 This reminds me of the William H Macy scene in Boogienights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:01 PM
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This. The current girl I'm dating has a bunch of hot friends who are super touchy, and a couple even grinded on my dick while dancing in moments while my girlfriend was away / in the bathroom. These girls would not give me a fucking ounce of attention in any other circumstances except that "one of the other hot girls" has already talked about how good I've fucked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:00 PM
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You're in the US. He went to the Philippines. See a little difference? No, I don't. The only people that differentiate this way are those paternalistic white saviors who think that any woman in her home country is some trafficked sex slave who has no agency. I present as white, but half of my family is from what some people would call a "poor country" How do you think they feel when American Karens screech about how "vulnerable and helpless" women from that half of my family are? Also he's 50 ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:37 PM
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I think RP had some elements of that, but PUA wasn't super rich thing from what I remember. It was pretty apolitical. The grifters were always present, but they used the PUA label before. True, but the scale and scope of the grift was far different even going back to the days of Mystery and Neil Strauss. Which reminds me, Andrew Tate really just looks like somebody put skinny, short early 2000's Neil Strauss into that "Captain America" machine and he came out as some uber douchey but jacked PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:09 PM
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2016 is when TRP had become more of some pseudo-political movement rather than "sexual strategy" and I basically moved on from giving a shit about "the scene" In 2023, it's morphed yet again into some weird network of grifters on YouTube and TikTok. In reality, it shouldn't take more than a week at most to analyze and internalize the useful parts of RP and apply them to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:50 PM
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I never had much luck on Thai dating sites. I'm not sure what's different. Interesting, so is this kind of your MO? Set up dates beforehand then go there to meet a series of women? I would think just going there for a week / month might be the way to go, but maybe that's not efficient. Vietnamese women are far more attractive than Filipino women As somebody who was engaged to a Viet (American) girl, this would be my expectation as well. It seems about 5-1 ratio of attractive women in favor of Vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:46 PM
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Their orbiters are Viets. The idea is propagated by inane Vietnamese love stories depicting an incel pursuing the object of his affections for months or years while she may fuck Chads until the incel wins her heart. Look at me. I am the Chad now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:38 PM
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It's much better to find someone closer to your age with their shit together. No, it's much better to be with somebody that makes you happy, that you're attracted to and that you have chemistry with. This strawmannirg is the same shit you hear when people argue against interracial, intercultural and same-sex relationships. You can just as easily say: "It's much better if both people are of the same economic background, same education level, same cultural background and same racial experience" wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:33 PM
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As an asian i can tell u it is an open secret here that these men come to our countries because only here can old men can get a young poor women over whom you have some power Uh huh. Except I was married to an asian woman and have since dated plenty of asian women, both 2nd generation Asian American and immigrants in the US who were financially well off, so I'm not really sure why you're bringing up a bunch of waddling fat Americans doing sex tourism in SEA as relevant here. And what "open secre…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:23 PM
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Me: Talks about 25-30 year old women dating attractive 45-50 year old men You: zOmgz!1! pOor 18 yeAr oLd w wRinKly wHitE 60 yEaR oLd!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:19 PM
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Have you tried Thailand as well? It seems like that's the other one of "The Big 3" in terms of SEA. Thailand appeals to me most in that: The women seem to be the prettiest / most feminine in SEA There is immense natural beauty in the country There is obviously no shortage of nightlife / partying They actually have an awesome car scene there Obvious Cons seem to be: Prostitution in one form or another is basically the norm in cities there, and that could get depressing The insane amount of text-b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:10 PM
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How old is your "little cousin"? If a 25-30 woman wants to date / fuck / marry a 45-50 year old man, why do you care? Like, is dating an older man who has his shit together somehow worse than being part of an "age appropriate" Chad's harem and getting pumped and dumped repeatedly like many many young women end up doing in the west? I applaud someone trying to increase their standard of living and their families by obtaining access to a higher income and a new citizenship. Is it possible that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:04 PM
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Do you still average 4k a month as living expenses? Honestly, that's not much different than my expenses in an expensive city in the US. Obviously the QoL is probably very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:00 PM
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You should only expect one date per hundred matches though. Holy shit. That's not great. Is this just really a "shots on goal" thing where you just succeed on pure numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:57 PM
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You really sound like me, I don't support the RP "scene", but many of the ideas are demonstrably true and valuable. The most obnoxious thing about the actual RP forum was its rampant Trump dick riding
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:56 PM
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Many Viet women love to surround themselves with beta orbiters who never have a chance but drain their emotions and finances. Goddamn. Et Tu, Brute? RP is undefeated. Are their orbiters generally Viet guys or other westerners? I've literally left them sitting at the coffee shop when they say that. Lmao. Truly living Chad's Life over there. 🤣 I'd say overall one-fifth of my first dates end in sex, although many smash-and-dash. Srs, this isn't a much better average than I get in the states, but I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:53 PM
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Big Ed, is that you? 🤣 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXyf2dibidE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:32 PM
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There goes that western mentality thinking the only reason those women would want those men is to “escape poverty” Exactly. I've dated Vietnamese and Filipino women in the US who were well off. They came from more money than I'll ever see in my life. The first one pursued me like crazy. She was 21 I was 32 and we were together for 5 years. Her family was rich from real estate investments and owned and managed a ton of properties. I guess she was trying to "escape poverty" though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:30 PM
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Ah yes, there's that low key paternalistic racism shining through again. "If women in other countries select for something that I don't, they are just being manipulated and subjugated because they are too stupid / desperate to know better! NO women actually appreciated (insert thing that solipsistic western woman wants)" Meanwhile, western woman gets pumped and dumped by string of HVM Chads because she's can only fuck who satisfy her list of 100 petty and superficial "requirements" like "makes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:27 PM
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American women are straight up some of the lowest quality women in the world It's absolutely shocking how western white women can look at the fact that, just physically the average woman in the US is 5'4 175 and still act like men are broken for wanting to go elsewhere for options. Now, of course women will throw in that "Western men are fat too!" Yes, that's true. Those men are going dateless and are a non-factor while the woman shaped like The Penguin from Batman Returns is actively getting pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:24 PM
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I'm dating a hot Filipina in the US who makes just as much money as me and it's going great so far. Many filipino women are just very attracted to white men in general and can you get a huge point bump on that alone. Throw in being fit, fun and good at sex and it's all good. Dating white women for me has been a nightmare with the constant tests, combativeness and flaking. Done with that. Western white women, at least in my area, are undatable now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:20 PM
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Lieutenant Dan?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:07 PM
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The only aspects I don't miss are the women, the cost of living, and MAGA. Damn, refreshing to see a non-trump dick rider man who is also RP. I feel alone sometimes. I'd live a near-hermit existence were it not for my sex drive. Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:03 PM
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I originally funded it by a good severance package. This is literally my plan if / when I get laid off from my current position. What was your financial monthly "burn rate" in USD when you first went?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:02 PM
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Holy mother of god. I've never heard of this scam. That's some next level shit. And this was your FIANCE? Somebody really needs to write a book / guide for this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:00 PM
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my dead fiance Well that took a turn. I'm sorry to hear that. Was she from the Philippines or Vietnam? Did this skew your subsequent dating? I mean, if you were engaged and lost your fiancé, that had to have shook up your view of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:57 PM
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define "force", because in my world that literally means to physically make somebody do something. Is this what you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:49 PM
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If you mean women and not girls, then compatibility, character, kindness, generosity, stability and humor combined with good looks and skill in sex. Ah yes, because women have never been known select for novelty, excitement, drama and status relative to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:28 AM
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We're already there. In 2023, looks is status. Still, it's also possible that the west starts to become more like South Korea where invasive plastic surgeries are not only accepted, but virtually expected Then, it will basically be an arms race of guys trying to out-Chad eachother, combined with nichemaxxing, because even if all men reached Chad level, there would still be preferred flavors of Chad for various women. The interesting thing would really be how women's hypergamy responds to such an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:25 AM
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Older women can put misogynistic men in their place & call them out on their bullshit. Or, older women are hypersensitive and vigilant for anything that vaguely offends their sensibilities thus making them insufferable to be around for more than a few minutes. Why TF do I want to spend my life doing battle with some combative bitch because she's obsessed with "smashing the patriarchy" or whatever. I've actually experienced this in dating a couple of times recently. While out with a 40+ woman I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:19 AM
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I got with older women in my 20s, I get with some my age, 30s, as a 30 year-old...the 20yo are harder to get, they have more suitors and are flakier cus of it. As an old guy, this is dead obvious, but holy shit, women just can't come to terms with it for some reason. I guess it's because they can't accept that men and women have different attraction cues. You often hear women say "I could never date a guy X years younger, he's like a kid!". Outside of extreme scenarios, this just isn't a thing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:14 AM
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All the good respectable women their own age have figured out not to put up with being treated by shit at that point. "not being treated like shit" is often older-womanese for "I'm going to put you through any and every cunty test I can think of to make sure you're not like Chad, Brad, Thad and Vlad who hurt me. And even if you don't do that, somewhere down the line, I'm going to punish you for what they did, and you'd better take it, because I'm a high powered career woman who is worth it." I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:10 AM
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it says a lot more about you than it does them. it really just means you’re very immature and neglected to grow up while everyone else was working on themselves. LOL, man people are coming up with new platitudes every day for something as simple as "She's hotter and more fun than the bitchier and less attractive option"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:07 AM
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No, it's actual bitchiness. Combativeness. Shit tests. Constant need to "challenge" and a general demeanor of being 'on edge' because some guy in her decades long dating career also wore a jacket like you, so now she's going to act like a cunt on wheels to you until you reassure her you're not going to do what that guy did.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:05 AM
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Women with less experience are easier to manipulate and corner into a situation This is my favorite genre of women's solipsism. Younger and hotter women have far more power to walk away and be choosey about their dating practices than women who are contemplating dying alone surrounded by cats and take out all of their past trauma on any man dumb enough to date them. Like do women really tell believe that it's EASIER to get hot young women versus older jaded women or is this just a fairy tale to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:03 AM
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Incorrect. What's also funny about these constant refrains of "younger woman are impressed by X" is that it ignores the fact that these younger, hotter women are getting romanced from all angles due to their high SMV while the 40 year old "career woman" isn't getting much in the first place. It's also quite amusing how women can't comprehend how bitter and combative many of these "unimpressed" older women are. Most women dating at 40 are absolutely pissed about it, and are generally awful and un…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:59 AM
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Lol no. Just no. As somebody that has dated in all directions of age gaps, this is ridiculous. What you call "bullshit detectors" is thinly veiled insecurity and bitterness and that's all it is. Those older women are far easier to "manipulate" if a man so chooses. This is such a huge ... word I'm not allowed to say. The woman with more options I the one who puts up with less bullshit and that is the younger, hotter woman. I have no idea why women try to flail around this, but it's so clearly com…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:52 AM
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While I agree with most of your descriptions, strip clubs basically are just a recipe for blue balls. Unless you are talking about brothels, you don't get any kind of 'release' at a strip club, you just have to run home and beat off anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:42 AM
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It's almost as if the term "blue balls" has existed for decades describing just this phenomenon. Yes, how "disturbing" for men to have a different sex drive from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:39 AM
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Nope. Women should understand that men will make a move and women shouldn't be surprised that if they go back home with a guy after dry fucking him all night that he's going to assume sex will happen. Again, for some reason many women on PPD can't seem to distinguish the phrase "make a move" from "forcibly rape" We are talking about the practice of women freaking out that a guy made moves toward sex based on the woman's previous behavior, not that a man has a right to "force" sex to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:33 AM
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are you defending rape? You know I said no such thing. Miss me with that lazy shit. What part of "make a move" didn't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:30 AM
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So, you mean, trying to instill accountability in women and leveling with them about the reality that males have a higher sex drive? Yeah, the horror. Imagine finding it offensive to learn that you shouldn't go home drunk with Chad after telling him you don't have underwear under your miniskirt, stroking his dick through his jeans, making out all night and not expecting him to make a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:36 PM
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Your assessment of what a "3/10" man is makes this discussion pointless. Women, especially when young, very often consider a man "undatable" for the most trivial of reasons because of their abundance of options. How many times do you hear women say shit like "I thought he was really hot, but then I heard him laugh and he had a weird laugh, so he gave me the ick and I now find him gross" Yeah, that's what we're talking about. This sounds a lot like the like "I know a short, fat guy that gets laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:30 PM
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Most men who ‘didn’t get the chance’ didn’t put themselves out there to begin with Jesus Christ. Is this what women actually believe? You think guys who didn't get all the fun casual sex in their teens and 20's just didn't "put themselves out there"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:12 PM
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Your wild oats should be sown by now. You're 35. Grow TF up already! Sigh... LOL. This is the voice of female privilege and another example of how women love to shame male sexuality. "I fucked tons of hawt guys in my 20's and got it out of my system, why didn't you bang all the hot girls in your 20's teehee, now you should settle down with MEEEEE because you should have had it just as easy as I did, even though now your SMV is finally high enough to experience what you didn't in your 20's like I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:10 PM
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Or... she's lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:04 PM
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See, this is the shell game women are playing with the "nobody said looks don't matter!" You downplay what is by far the most important selection criteria by saying shit like "sure, there were a couple of guys I didn't find physically attractive" No. There were probably more like 80% of guys you found physically unattractive, then among the remaining 20% of guys who made the cut you added this other filtering criteria on top of it. So the guys who you already thought were hot said some dumb shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:03 PM
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We're just supposed to pretend that the statement about "finding a couple of guys physically unattractive" doesn't actually mean "I noped out of the vast majority of guys who were also respectful and kind because they were physically unattractive, but don't want to reflect on this nor talk about it as it will make me seem shallow and conflict with my just world argument"? Basically this whole post is a round about way of saying "I only fuck Chads who don't call me a slut in the first message"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:52 PM
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It’s all about being respectful and kind NOTE: There have been at least 3 threads this week claiming that "women never say this!" and, yet, here we are. yes there were a couple of men that I did not find physically attractive. "a couple"... riiiight. This post is actually a great example of the "just world" type thinking women engage in, and how they actually gaslight themselves into thinking they are selecting for some high minded criteria. You don't have to look at many "Chadfishing" experimen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:42 PM
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I really believe if you read this speech from "Network" (1976) and simply change the names of the mediums around (TV for Social Media), etc, it fits more than ever. We are basically addicted to monetized distractions. NETWORK (1976) Because you people and 62 million other Americans are listening to me right now. Because less than 3 percent of you people read books. Because less than 15 percent of you read newspapers. Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:12 AM
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Jaded women on Twitter and FDS I'd add reddit in general and certainly PPD to this list. While I agree with your assertion about the algorithm based social media sites , I believe that just as much damage has been done to my perception of women via women's own words on PPD. Now, this is quite similar in that this sub attracts many women who want to dunk on men at any cost, but the incessant lying, gaslighting and general delusion engaged in here all in the name of casting men as the villain and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:06 AM
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its better for a man to sleep on the roof of his house than safe inside with the company of a quarrelsome woman Lol holy shit. It's amazing how much wisdom we lost from the ancient world in our rush to get away from the (admittedly) crappy parts of religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:58 AM
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Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:53 AM
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“I want to kiss you” is perfectly sexy and if she was gonna be ok with you doing it, saying that and waiting for her to say “so kiss me” is a good way to make sure she’s actually into it. It's also a good way to give her "the ick". As a man you learn women expect you to "assume the sale" or lose it. You have to read body language, as this is what women expect. If I said "I want to kiss you" to half the women I've dated, they'd look at me with confusion because I'm a grown-ass man who should be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:03 AM
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. She felt like she was nonverbally screaming no, and he should’ve picked up on that. Sentences like these is why nobody will ever take feminists seriously. You're either an adult with words or you're not. If the standard was “consent is the presence of a yes, not the absence of a no” there would’ve been no issue at all. Except, out here in the real world, women want men who "just get it" and "make the first move" and "go for it" because women like assertive men, not timid m'lady simps who say "…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 11:07 PM
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children raised by single mothers That’s men’s fault. Please just go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:56 PM
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Because, if you are asking in good faith, it only frames the man as the ones needing to engage in it because women it constantly depicts women as helpless children who 'freeze up' in sexual situations while men are predatory monsters while completely ignoring the reality of sexual dynamics between men and women. Because it's taken us from the reasonable: "No means No" standard to grey "The lack of a no isn't a yes" to the utterly ridiculous "A yes isn't always actually a yes" standard which, aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:51 PM
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Simple question: Is the fact that people go to on subreddits to discuss and better understand Japanese language and culture evidence that the people who are currently studying Japanese language and culture never learn or become proficient in Japanese language and culture? After all, why are they on that sub? They should just be living in Japan and "just get it" that way right? The assertion that "the existence of people online attempting to learn about X is proof that X doesn't work" is as falla…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:46 PM
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You're already moving the goal posts and setting up straw men here, I can see where this is going. You're one poster that I can say with utter certainty that never, ever engages in good faith here so, I'll leave it to readers to make up their minds and bail from this particular conversation, as it would be a total waste of time. The 2 articles I've linked to say it better than I could anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:41 PM
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women are being held less accountable for their actions than ever before? In what way? Have you been asleep for the past 20 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:36 PM
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Wrong. Boys are more like to have behavior and learning problems, which makes school difficult for those particular boys. What an unsurprising take. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/10/09/boys-falling-behind-how-schools-must-change-help-young-males/5913463001/ https://www.edutopia.org/article/boys-are-falling-behind-what-can-we-do-about-it/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZQ_Ed4ao0 We didn’t have a problem with the boys in school for quite a while, even when girls were discouraged f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:32 PM
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Nope. You are making zero sense and have no logical consistency. Your entire message boils down to: If you don't know how to do X, you suck. And if you are trying to learn how to do X, that's just further evidence that you suck. It's built on the ridiculous lie that "every guy should just get it because every guy has an equal opportunity to socialize with women" as you put it, when that's clearly not the case. The fact that you brought up a "Frat" with a straight face should tell a reader everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:28 PM
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If what you say is true about education, why are so many men dropping out of higher ed & the work force? Isn’t that just cutting off your nose to spite your face? Nope. There are plenty of other reasons. Schools are more and more gearing themselves towards women in structure and practice. When boys go through years of early education being treated as defective women, it's no mystery why they GTFO the first chance they get. College has become overtly hostile towards men. It can be seen in small c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:04 PM
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Good for your social circle. In 2023, the narrative is women good, men bad. Period. The narrative is "if a woman does something bad to a man, the man must have done something to deserve it" The narrative is "men are privileged and when a woman does something bad to a man, it's not really a big deal or is just deserts for the legacy of patriarchy" That is the dominant narrative in 2023. Not the gaslighting notion of "equality" that feminist propagate. Women in 2023 are held less accountable for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 09:45 PM
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My argument it not, if it worked it wouldn’t exist it’s that If dudes could DO the shit they would t need the RP in the first place. (Because it’s common sense) This is equally dumb. And you just claiming it is "common sense" is meaningless, because to many many men it is not. Your only come back here will be to call those men who lack what you call common sense names, which should tell you all you need to know about your argument. And so if you are too clueless/lazy/stubborn to get it/hear it/l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:40 PM
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I've found preselection to be very situational. For example, in a bar / club environment, if I was with a 1 or more girls who would outwardly show comfort being flirty or sexual with me, it was infinitely more common to have other random girls come up and show interest. If I go to a club with guys, by myself, or with women who have clearly friend-zoned me, I'm basically invisible. Hell, I've had women go from utterly indifferent toward me to low key slipping me their number when they saw me with…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:30 PM
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I love how every other thread your argument seems to boil down to a combination of: "The stuff in RP that works is just common sense" and "RP is dumb because if it worked it wouldn't still exist" Which is it? Whether you want to deem things like preselection, hypergamy, dual mating strategy, and more nefarious concept like dread as "common sense" or not is irrelevant. Either it works or it doesn't. Either it's true or it isn't. Take something that is admittedly corny like "holding frame". Men fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:22 PM
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Hypergamy is “the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background” What you seem to be missing here are the things that go into a category like "sociological" are ever changing. For example, in the 80's, as a teenager, maybe being the "captain of the football team" meant you were "sociologically superior" to nearly all your peers. Now, having more instagram followers and women openly lusting after you in the comments will put…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:14 PM
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And that's the right call obviously. I really do believe that many young men are taught to always put women before themselves because "patriarchy". I certainly did, and I let women get away with all kinds of shit as a result. While abusive men are obviously a very real and big problem, I at least feel like a man abusing a woman has basically always been seen as deviant, cruel and dangerous by society. Not so with women. With women there are movements that try to excuse it away by "past trauma" e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:10 PM
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One of them I lived with at the time and couldn't afford to move out, one crybullied me, and the other cried and pleaded with me not to call the police because she had nowhere to go, even though my sheets were soaked in blood and I had to go to the hospital. In all cases, I was too young to know how to handle it, and I had internalized the "women are always the victim" and "you should always help women in distress" narrative, so in the last case I thought it wouldn't be "right" to throw her out …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:58 PM
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Those men aren’t available to them, unless those women have casual sex with them. Lol @ pretending like a majority of women won't delude themselves into thinking they can parlay casual into a relationship with those men. This is very very common. men should be avoiding women who have casual sex for actual relationships anyway Is this like how women use their "personality detectors"? Most men can't know this right away. What you're saying here is irrelevant anyway. The point is that women are att…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:17 PM
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Exactly, not even trying to let men "off the hook" here, but this isn't remotely the same as women's mate selection process. Women are hypergamous to an extent that basically excludes any man outside of the top 20% of men available to her. While a man walking into a room with a bunch of "hot" girls, he will absolutely not always go try to hit up the absolute hottest one for the simple fact that men pursue variety in mate selection. If the guy has been banging a 8/10 blonde cheerleader type for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:11 PM
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Men who were attractive in their youth and gained social skills and confidence from positive romantic and sexual interactions continue to be relatively attractive. Also wrong, the one thing about young "Chads" that I've noticed is that, much like women, their natural good looks were enough for them to cruise by. As those Chads age, they fail to make any strides from going to "hawt fuckboy young dude" to "attractive grown man" Those Chads, while generally more 'secure' with themselves, are often …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:22 PM
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Wrong. Women don't judge men's height against their own, they compare men's height against the other men she has access to. Women grade men on a curve of what they (believe) have available to them. This is a big reason why social media and OLD is fucking things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:17 PM
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If I’m not physically attractive now then I definitely wont be when I’m 40, but at least I’ll have money and influence. Also wrong. Many men 'grow into' their masculinity later in life. I sure as shit did. All of the hottest and youngest women I got when I was 40+ and had 5+ years of gym, a decent beard, good fashion and a better mental frame. Women ITT just can't come to terms that men's SMV is dictated by more than being a neotenous, young and physically soft because they resent that that is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:15 PM
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TRP says that 40 year old men magically become sexy and appealing to 20 year old women when they make a ton of money. No it doesn't. Get over this obsession with "age gaps". It's truly nauseating to see women here that can't get over the fact that some men can pull younger women when older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:13 PM
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This thread is like a masterclass in misandry, hamstering and solipsism. The most you're getting in this thread is "Well, I don't condone women hitting men, BUT..." Things women have done to me over the years: Threw a plate at my head which I barely dodged that subsequently smashed a sliding glass door because I said I didn't want to hang out w/ her friends. Punched me in the back as a "joke" right after I had stitches put in after a skin surgery. Punched me square in the face, while she straddl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:07 PM
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I think men have learned to channel their "drama" to things like sports and to some extent politics, and largely value the lack of drama in their personal lives. They can also channel their need for "drama" into things like taking MMA classes / or other risk taking behaviors. A high amount of women absolutely need drama in their personal lives. It's like their only outlet to "feel something"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:56 PM
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Women can exist happily in various states: In a monogamous LTR with a guy that probably ranges at around her own SMV or slightly higher. This is the only truly 1-to-1 equitable scenario. Single but fucking around when they "get the itch". They will go out to a bar and fuck a guy sporadically. Not really a hoe phase, but it's enough for them to not question their own sexual worth. The men they fuck in this phase are almost always Chad level. The Chads she bangs here likely are banging many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:14 PM
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This low key white knighting in every thread is getting tiresome. We are discussing why fat women are more likely to insert themselves into situations where their hot friend is talking to a man in order to stop the interaction. There are people in this thread trying to frame this as some form of altruistic and 'protective' act, rather than being motivated by a sense of being left out, bitterness and jealousy which it more commonly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:52 PM
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These are all debatable, and I'd hazard to guess that this is largely based on self reporting which notoriously skews women's sexual admissions. So throw the "cheating" one out based on that. With "empathy", I'd agree that women show more empathy outwardly towards people experiencing misfortune, however they do not extend that empathy towards men in general. The empathy gap and women-are-wonderful are factors here as well. I don't even think it can be argued that women judge men far more harshly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:49 PM
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Men are also more likely to lie in genera To quote Chris Rock: When men lie, it's something like - "I was out with the guys." When women lie, it's something like - "The baby is yours."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:44 PM
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If you don't know (or are pretending not to) how the modern left claims gender roles, and even gender identities are a social construct in the year 2023, then you're either cut off from reality of lying. Either way this conversation serves no purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:40 PM
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If all one girl does is “we gotta go” to all the girls- guess who ends up not getting invited eventually. This is true actually. I've seen girls get dropped from GNO's for this reason. This is why smart guys will placate the fat girl first. Because they know the fat girl is going to be the one to cause problems. Shit 90's PUA had a word for this: "Disarm the obstacle" and Jersey Shore called it "Jumping on a grenade" if the coco blocker is all a guy ever sees then dude needs to look at his wingm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:38 PM
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As much as I hate the cliche, this is likely the same phenomenon at work as the "Angry Short Dude". They have lived a life of rejection, disrespect and being treated as less than their tall friends, so they assume a defensive posture by default. I've seen fat women do this a ton. I have a cute lesbian friend who has a fat straight friend. I didn't know her that well, but I saw my lesbian friend out one night and jokingly tapped her on the opposite shoulder I was standing on (that whole dumb 'who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:34 PM
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Lol no. I've gone out with enough girls in groups to see that it's the fat ugly chick that is the "we gotta go!" type. The cock-blocking fat chick almost always comes from a place of discreet jealousy, not some high minded protective instinct. Stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:28 PM
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You are skipping right over the part where one person's trivial annoyance is another man's "injustice" Western women complaining about air conditioning being "sexist" because they are tuned to the average male internal body temperature is "oppression" to some. Go tell Women in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan all about it and see what they tell you. Acknowledging that there are systemic issues with policing in the United States, for example, doesn't suddenly mean that men dying from deaths of despair…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:09 PM
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Aright man. You've made nothing resembling a point in 2 messages now, so that's good for now. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:06 PM
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What do you think that means or are you just throwing that in just in hopes it sticks. Nice snark. Sure sign I'm dealing with an intellectual titan. It means that the left religiously puts things like "gender roles" in the "social construct" box in order to tacitly connect them to "patriarchal heteronormative brainwashing" rather than what they actually are. Extremely biologically driven sexual preferences that can be observed across vast periods of history and geography with very little cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:17 PM
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I'm also on the left and this is mostly nonsense. I agree with the ridiculous 'tradcon' stuff. That needs to go away. Where the left fucks up (as always) is with their "eVeRytHiNg iS a sOcIaL cOnsTruCt!1" nonsense. It ignores that, just as much as men have a biological drive to want to fuck and pair with younger, feminine, fertile women, women also have their own drives. The issue is that the left happily acknowledges that men have these instincts (see: men are dogs, men are pigs, men are predat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:01 PM
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The question was: in what world is a women considered empowered by sleeping around after a break-up? You said: She was given lemons and she made lemonade. She's got it right Thank you for backing up my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:26 PM
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For fucksake, this is about DATING If you take a woman out on a date, and it's raining do you walk around to the passenger side with your umbrella and open the door for her? I can damn sure tell you that women love this and will notice if you do not do it.. This is about what women want in terms of masculine / chivalrous behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:24 PM
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Are people really saying that young straight men deserve to feel awful because of who they are? I haven’t heard it in real life. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brauer-college-school-assembly-boys-stand-up-apologise-gender-backlash/ There. Now you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:19 PM
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we should also address people toxic attitudes to men seeking help meaning people should respond better to men when they are in distress You need to start with women. Make women self reflect on their own expectations of men and express them honestly, without gaslighting or hamstering. You know, the same way men have had to adjust their "expectations" of women for the last 50 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:15 PM
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TLDR; "If any group is suffering or has suffered to a greater to degree than your own, you should not expect any attention paid to the suffering of your group" This is great news, because now I can concern myself with the plight of the Uyghurs in China or the Burakumin in Japan the next time some western feminist screeches about "rape culture", "mansplaining" or "the male gaze". After all, those groups have suffered far worse difficulties or for far longer than modern western women. To use your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:10 PM
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I'm not going to get into this attempt at psychoanalysis. I have a therapist for that. I will only say, the only point being made here is NOT that "all women are worse than men", and I wish women would stop pretending this is what is being said. What is being said is this: Women, like men can be shitty in their own unique ways. But, in the modern west, women's unique negative, predatory and manipulative pathologies are largely ignored or excused because for a variety of reasons when compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:53 PM
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So honest question: why bother with dating women? Simple. Because I enjoy sex with women who also want to have sex with me, and because I enjoy the company of pleasant, fun, free spirited, agreeable, curious and interesting women. Similarly, women who know there are some criminal men out there that will physically harm them if they find themselves in a vulnerable position with them, still date men because when they find a man they click with things, life is better. The issue here is that those s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:38 AM
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"I think a man pole dancing in high heels would be hot" absolutely takes the cake in absurdity 100% It's like some women are trying to prove the "watch what they do, not what they say" adage. Even the odd woman who chimes in with some personal "I would never X" or "I actually like when guys Y" stuff, they rarely if ever can acknowledge how utterly useless that information is to the average guy navigating the real world, because, to them, there is no world outside of their own mind. Literally the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:22 AM
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Hey Deep? Eat fucking Timothy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:53 AM
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Lol TIL all of twitter = "an internet group"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:40 AM
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Also.. you’re just wrong. The type of men strippers date is just as varied as it is for everyone else. Yeah, you're not gonna win this one. Sorry. I've known too many women in that business for you to try to pass this nonsense off to me. The bottom line is the vast majority of women and especially women that work as strippers would be repulsed by their man slinking around a pole in heels. It hurts young men when people post outright lies like this. But what else is new. Women will say literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:12 AM
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I am a stripper and plenty of us would be impressed by a man wearing 8 inch pleasers and doing pole tricks. I love how y'all are pretending that "impressed by" and "think its cool" is remotely similar to "would fuck a guy that..." As I said, I've dated strippers - And hung out with them in large groups. I've met their boyfriends. This is absolute nonsense. This notion that strippers of all people are out there looking to fuck some fem-boy drag queen in heels doing pole tricks, rather than very m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:02 AM
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The internet is not real life. Write it 100 times until it sinks in. We're talking about actual people out in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:00 AM
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Wearing heals doesn't make you effeminate. Wrong. many around think it's hot as hell. Lie. Many try to get their men to take it up with them I know at least 3 teachers and 2 women who run studios. This is an outright lie. I knew a guy who wore a dress out to parties and his count was higher than almost any guys I know. Uh huh. He's probably friends with that 5'4, balding fat guy who slays because his "great personality and respect for women" Women don't get the ick about things men think they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:58 PM
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I can't think of many women under the age of 50 who wouldn't be put off by this Lol except for the 10 I've fucked in the past year I guess. This is a lack of grass touching. You are the outlier here. except maybe on a SUPER fancy occasion. Ah yes, the old weasel out. Where you get to be right depending on what you mean by "fancy". Maybe you think anything other than McDonald's or a Coffee date is "fancy" maybe you only think the Opera is fancy. Could be anything. Whatever wins the argument I sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:53 PM
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They aren't lying, they're just living in a bubble, and so are we. This is probably the most correct take here, and I admit I am in the bubble with a lot of this shit when having discussions on PPD. IRL, this literally never comes up and the shit I'm talking about being common sense (women liking men who open doors, pay for dates, etc) is not controversial in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:51 PM
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What woman are you dating who can't open their own car door? Men who still do this are so weird, I hate hate this. Lol ah yes, the old Redditor woman "I don't do this! I hate this!" argument. Seriously, is this what counts ad advice from women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:44 PM
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"Stand up for yourself" as a man to a woman means getting fired, cancelled or having a bunch of white knights threatening to beat your ass. So, you're not risking much as a woman doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:41 PM
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I have some connection to pole dancing groups and I can tell you for a fact many women would be really happy with a guy who can wear heels well especially if he can dance in them LMAO. Stop it. Now you're just being silly. I've dated strippers and pole instructors. The notion that these girls are looking to date effeminate guys, much less guys who basically cross dress is fucking laughable. Unless of course, you're referring to the few pole dancing guys who are most certainly gay? You're basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:37 PM
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most people who go around talking about their preferences get shit No. They may get a few guys calling her out in the comments, and those guys will get as many people calling them incels. Any man posting the equivalent of the below image would be cancelled not just "get flack" Stop trying to "both sides" this issue. Women can say whatever TF they want if it's directed at men, and that's the end of the damn story. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEcYou3XUAM8bh3.png
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:34 PM
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LOL who TF is talking about "subs". You're seriously going to hold up some obscure RP forums as an example of the social climate? Let's "touch grass" and talk about real life. It's 2023. If you don't see that society, popular culture and media propagates the dominant narrative that women are good, and powerful and wonderful and virtuous nearly all the time while men are "problematic", predatory and of poor character nearly all the time, then you aren't paying attention. You honestly think women …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:25 PM
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Where you getting far less from? Far less in your experience sleeping with and dating men? Oh no you don't. My source: Raised by: Single mother 3 older sisters 2 aunts 2 grandmothers Those were the constant presences in my life growing up. The men were mostly MIA. Then you get the countless dates, dozen LTR's and several live-in relationships and observing all of said women's friends behavior as well. Then add in every male friend's relationship experiences that I've witnessed and, yes, I've see…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:29 PM
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So basically your advice is to just remain alone forever rather than accept that there are roles and compromises men and women must make in life? Cool story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:24 PM
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Cross dressing is common. Stay at home dads Lmao. Is this Woke Island? I live in the most liberal area on earth and in no way could this be called "common" even here. Anyway, yeah this is nonsense. I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:23 PM
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From my own life? I have countless. We are talking about behaviors within relationships. This will be by definition anecdotal. If you think women using covert gaslighting tactics more than men is some new revelation in the world of psychology though, well, I'm not going to argue the color of the sky with you. Men will often blatantly lie (I Wasn't there, I didn't do it, etc) but rarely play the "you made me do it, therefore I'm innocent" card. At worst they'll pull the "she made me lose my tempe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:20 PM
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There's a big difference between "these women exist" and implying that a man can merely "pick a different woman" when what is beyond discussed is utterly common among women. You may as tell men to simply "pick a woman who can grow a better beard than you"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:16 PM
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Ok, my bad. Good on you for being consistent. The world needs more people like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:12 PM
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This must be some weird Zoomer gen Z shit or something somebody who doesn't own a car would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:11 PM
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I think there is an evolutionary component at work here. Women, being weaker and smaller, have adapted to use every method possible to avoid accountability and avoid "getting in trouble" so they will often remain in denial over things they've done wrong to insane degrees. Fuck, take a look at the interrogations of Jodi Arias or Casey Anthony. Chilling. They would be beyond belief if they weren't such familiar tactics that women use. Casey Anthony in particular, literally lied about working at Di…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:09 PM
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The more progressive people are, the more those old gender roles go out the window. For WOMEN. Not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:06 PM
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Lol. Ok, so when is it a "demand" that women don't be fat? If I'm dating a woman and she gets fat and I leave her over it, I'm allowed to do that and merely "expressing a preference" correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:04 PM
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Women seem to have an inbuilt literal cognitive block that will not allow them, under any circumstances to admit that they themselves participate in anything that can be seen as less than virtuous. If PPD has taught me anything it's that women will gaslight you and tell you that you're just fine and they didn't do anything even after they've stabbed you with a butcher knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:03 PM
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that's not an expectation of men. Wait, you honestly think opening a car door for a woman on a date is not an expectation of men? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:00 PM
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If I hear a woman say those words I call her ass out fast. Lol, sure you do. If you do congrats. You're the 1/10000 that will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:59 PM
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What the actual fuck is this Twitterbrained shit. I rarely see a post where "touch grass" is an actual appropriate response, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:58 PM
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For the most brutal and on-point example of "Trickle Truth" in action, I recommend watching the Black Mirror Episode "The Entire History Of You" That shit hits home for a man who has experienced this tactic, and while probably not as extreme, I think most men have lived through similar situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:55 PM
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Men will lie to try to deny the existence of a thing, yes. Those men, one busted, will rarely pull the mental gymnastics that women do to try to make it the injured parties fault. That's a strategy that's damn near exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:55 PM
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Men tell women they had to cheat because they’re horny, stressed, or unsatisfied. Far far less than women do, and the ones that do try to use this excuse are (rightly) called pieces of shit. Women making similar arguments are listened to and sympathized with. Are we just going to act like in-group bias and women-are-wonderful aren't real things suddenly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:54 PM
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If you want women to come out of the woodwork to demonize them, that’s not what people do Funny how women find the time to do that to men constantly though, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:53 PM
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I'll use the Chris Rock joke. "When a man lies it's something along the lines of 'I was out with the guys'" "When a woman lies it's something like 'the baby is yours'" You comparing a man not wanting to tell a woman he did some petty shit like talk to a woman at the gym, is not remotely close to the amount of hamstering women do in the context leading up to and including actual cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:52 PM
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Most women who have an issue with gender roles for women also have an issue with gender roles for men. Bullshit. We're talking about dating here. Those women care in that context just as much. Source: Have dated many many self proclaimed feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:49 PM
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Just leaving out that men are literally risk their physical well-being if not lay their very lives down for women. Leaving out that a woman doing those "chores" would likely be getting supported by a man doing backbreaking / soul destroying labor for countless hours. What's weird is your inability to see that women's expectations of men is more restrictive than the reverse in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:48 PM
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I want to give you an award but can't. This is the exact way a relationship should look, and we should also acknowledge that, on average, men being 'handy' is seen as attractive to women, and women being good cooks is seen as attractive to men for a variety of social and evolutionary reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:46 PM
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The people saying that they've only heard of women having these expectations are in PPD I have a hard time believing. It's PPD. They're lying in order to dunk on men. That's really all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:45 PM
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They aren't going to openly admit to anything This has been getting worse and worse recently on PPD and I'm not sure why. Women trying to argue the color of the sky or the wetness of water has become basically SoP these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:44 PM
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Once again ITT on PPD - Women either pretending they don't understand the point (reducing the expectations on men's gender roles with the simple act of pulling a chair out with a lifetime of cooking / cleaning / servitude) or trying desperately to show how "it's different" when women expect things from a man because ... reasons. My favorite thought has to be women acting like women demanding these things of men is some unheard of / rare concept lol. Holy shit. Y'all would have absolute melt down…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:43 PM
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Appreciating courtesy from a man is not the same as demanding it. What do you call it when a woman refuses a second date with a man because he didn't open the car door for her, pay or try to initiate a kiss then? How does that not constitute a demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:40 PM
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So basically, if a man wants a woman who does things associated with feminism, he's a sexist POS, but when a woman does it, it's because "she just wants to make sure he's a good person" This is some TikTok-Brained, unhinged level of hamstering. What's next? Short women are ok to demand tall men because "muh need to feel safe" but fit men wanting fit women is "muh patriarchal unrealistic body standards" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:38 PM
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Ask a man how many times a woman has walked around the car to open the passenger door for him. Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:36 PM
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I’ve never Literally every other response from women when a completely commonly understood behavior of women in general is discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:35 PM
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I don’t know a single progressive woman who expects or wants a naff valentines gift. Sure, Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:34 PM
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Lots of men get gifts for Valentine's day. Jesus. This is the level of gaslighting we're getting from women on PPD now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:34 PM
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Exactly, western women screech misogyny when you state your preference, then screech "exploiting poor 3rd world women!" when you go to a place where women actually fit this criteria. Heads women win. Tails men lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:33 PM
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It becomes those things if you say that this is how all people should be. Umm, how many times have you heard a woman start a sentence with "A real man would ..." That's what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:32 PM
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I am a woman and I open doors for people regardless of gender. No you don't. You've never rushed around the door of your car that you just took a guy out on a date in order to open the door for him. Jesus the women being willfully obtuse in this thread is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:31 PM
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And I have to say i love how "opening the door" and "getting the chair out" is somehow equivalent to "stay in the kitchen and be my bangmaid" I love how you ignored paying for everything, initiating everything, risking rejection (or worse) and basically being expected to lay your physical wellbeing on the line for a woman but reduced these expectations most women clearly have of men to a mere "getting the chair out"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:29 PM
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Women still are more likely to do more housework. Except women can choose to be either breadwinning career women or "home makers" who work a part time job at a fabric store. A man doing the latter will be called less than a man by women. Women get to choose their gender role, style of dress and behavior. Men get to choose ONE role. The traditional man, and that's it. No woman is going to be ok with her man wearing heels on the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:28 PM
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Society (and especially women) tells men, and everybody else that all women are "perfect kweens just the way they are" even if that means they are fat and lazy. There is NO popular movement (outside of RP) that is calling bum / shit women out for being bum / shit women. That's where the whole "sex work IS work!" nonsense comes from. It's trying to elevate a woman shoving cucumbers in herself on OF to some man doing backbreaking work on an oil rig.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:25 PM
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They only place I’ve heard about women having those expectations is this sub. The only place you've heard of women expecting men to do the approaching, paying and opening doors, etc is from this sub? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:19 PM
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chivalry would be better replaced with consideration towards others How tf is being expected to approach, initiate, escalate, pay and plan things merely "consideration towards others" You dodged the entire point of the post with the old "both genders!1!" canard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:18 PM
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I know how you know. And my point is, nobody is defending those men seeing escorts, they are calling them losers, creeps, exploiters and predators and worse if they are doing it while in a relationship. The point is society doesn't bend over backwards for men so they can evade accountability they way it does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:30 PM
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I've seen a guy call the waitress a bar wench What? So a cute / sarcastic nickname? Cool story. Now do cunt, bitch, slut or whore and see the reaction. They really do. No. They really don't. Nah, I've never seen a guy confronted about this irl. You've never seen a guy confronted for insulting a woman (ie calling a woman a bitch) in public? Have you ever been to a bar or club? It's starting to feel like this isn't a good faith discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:28 PM
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The issue here is ACCOUNTABILITY for those behaviors and the attempts to rationalize / hamster them away or excuse them. Men will lie and say "I was out with the boys" or "She's just a friend" yes. But when a man is busted, he may try to lie his way out of it, but it's rare the man will try to gaslight and blame the woman for the fact that he just had to fuck that hot Barista. That's not remotely the same as a woman saying "I had to lie to you because I was afraid of your reaction" or "It just h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:23 PM
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No. Men will admit the ugly truth and take their medicine, not frantically run from accountability like women. This is why the term "Hamstering" exists. Women do it far far more than men do. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:20 PM
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I don’t understand how a woman being promiscuous means anyone is calling her empowered. Have you been asleep for the last 20 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:19 PM
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Yeah, men bitch about women bitching. Women bitch about men bitching. In the end, nothing happens and no one cares. LMAO, next time you see a woman tell a guy he's got "Napoleon complex" or is "ugly" or a "creep" in public / at a bar, see what happens. Now, watch a man walk up to a girl and call her a bitch, cunt, fat, ugly and see what happens. Apparently on some other planet, these two things get the same reactions. On earth, the woman is getting a laugh from her friends, and ignored by everyb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:18 PM
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No, but you see, seeing escorts is just a "HUMAN" thing!1! stop making this about gender when it's just an ASSHOLE thing!11!! As you can see in this thread, men and women are exactly the same in unless it's something women don't like, and then it's very much unique to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:15 PM
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I wouldn't say theres zero backlash. Its probably about the same backlash as men get for doing the same. Wait, so you honestly believe that women talking shit about, insulting, belittling, and lashing out at men is treated the same and reacted to in similar ways by society at large as the reverse? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:13 PM
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Having preferences is neither misogynistic nor misandrist. Being an asshole about those preferences is The difference is women are allowed to have and express their preferences in any way they want, whereas men are called misogynist monsters for the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:11 PM
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Do you acknowledge that women openly and publicly ridicule men for all manner of immutable traits (hair loss, short, ugly) beyond their control and face virtually zero backlash over (if not be given high fives) while a man who openly talks bad about a woman in public will get confronted by other women and simps if not have his ass kicked by a white knight?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:10 PM
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Or it could mean that, you know, it's such a rare and unacceptable thing to even acknowledge that every man with this take has to flock to that one obscure platform, while women can publicly brag how she fucked Chad because her man "couldn't satisfy her" and be Yas Kween'ed by her henhouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:07 PM
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You ever been on Whisper? Lmao. Did you really just compare some obscure and anonymous app to, you know, the entire fucking rest of western society / social media / entertainment / popular culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:59 PM
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This is no different from saying all men are responsible for wife beaters and rapists. Ahem: https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brauer-college-school-assembly-boys-stand-up-apologise-gender-backlash/ Which society does to men every day and has been doing for the last 10-20 years with collective guilt inducing terms like "Toxic Masculinity" along with "The Male Gaze", "Predator", "Objectification" and the old catch-all classic "Rape Culture" Women love to hold men as a class responsible for all manner of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:58 PM
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For the most brutal and on-point example of "Trickle Truth" in action, I recommend you watch the Black Mirror Episode "The Entire History Of You" That shit hit home with me, and I think many men have lived that episode tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:52 PM
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It sounds like you issue is with those specific women, not women in general. The biggest cop-out on PPD. As if this kind of lack of accountability isn't rampant with women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:50 PM
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This is a women thing, this is an arsehole thing, I love how women say this, but then turn around and happily ascribe all kinds of "predatory" shit to men exclusively. Women are shitty in their own unique ways. Why is this impossible for women to admit? in what world is a women considered empowered by sleeping around after a break-up? Are you serious? This is constant. A girl who got cheated on will go out to bars and clubs with her girls to fuck Chad after Chad to "feel sexy again". I've seen t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:49 PM
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Bullshit. I hate this genre of post on PPD. "iT's jUsT pEoPlE!" is a gaslight to men so women can deny their own unique brand of denial, solipsism and lack of accountability. Yes, men will make up cover stories, etc. But do not play the "muh emotional neglect" or even "muh sexual needs" card at remotely the same rate that women do. Women see themselves as the hero / victim in their own stories no matter what bad shit they get up to. They will find a way to blame the man / somebody / something fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:47 PM
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Your point was clearly intended to say that it's only some shut-ins that have no socialization that lead to these types of outcomes. The issue is that young men are not being leveled with about the reality of young women, and told how to navigate with direct honesty because women and girl's feelings are more important than the boy actually getting the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:39 PM
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that wouldn’t explain the men who have a job Where they are getting henpecked by their boss and forced to take "diversity and inclusion" classes which tell them what a PoS they really are, all while working away as an inconsequential drone, while society and women tell them how unnecessary they are and, in fact they are shit because they don't make as much as that woman they just hired to fulfill their quota. or kids The ones the woman took away? or a gf The one who cheats, starfishes or dead be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:37 PM
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it's dehumanizing. It's not tone-policing Pick one. Do you think women would call into question the advisability of dating a man who had rage and anger issues and others related to impulse control and who had done years in prison as a result? I don't think you'd jump up and finger wag at any woman for calling those men "damaged".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:33 PM
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A man who is attractive enough to sleep around can pull women very easily No. Just no. Don't even try this line of argument. Outside of literal celebrities, even a Chad has to put in leg work. He has to "make her feel safe" and "make her feel sexy" and be somewhat confident in his pursuit. He also has to be the pursuer and risk rejection. A woman has to: Exist When a man sleeps around it shows he lacks commitment LMAO. It may show that, but guess what it shows far far more than that? That he is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:31 PM
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Hey can you show me a post from this sub complaining about short guys and calling them names? One sub on a dark corner of reddit versus, the rest of the fucking world that openly ridicules short men and makes them the butt of jokes with zero push back. You serious right now? Like breast size? Wait what? Are you gonna sit here and claim that, in 2023 "Breast Size" is the big point of criticism from women? Have you even seen porn? Top porn stars are everything from A-Cups to E-Cups. There's no fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:26 PM
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ITT people claiming that people just want people to "not be mean" when discussing the normalization of obesity in this thread ignoring how Jillian Michaels got crucified and had a cancel campaign started against her for stating a glaringly obvious (and tbh compassionate) fact about Lizzo lol https://www.today.com/popculture/jillian-michaels-accused-body-shaming-after-lizzo-comments-t171430 But, nah, better let all those fat kids pretend that diabetes and heart disease aren't actually problems be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:22 PM
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Where it even exists, it is on an infinitesimal scale to fat shaming. Lol. Found somebody who would off themselves living 1 week as a short man. Also funny how women skip right by the fact that one is a lifestyle choice akin to alcoholism and smoking and the other is an immutable genetic trait Jesus, the delusion of women here trying to defend fats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:17 PM
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Remember how we had incessant anti-smoking ads in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's? Why don't we have "Stop stuffing your fucking face with Ding Dong's and Pringles" ads?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:16 PM
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, i’ve heard women express their preferences in a far better way than men overall Sure, Jan. Napoleon Complex, Little Dick Energy, Virgin, Loser, Geek, Nerd, Wimp, Incel, Creepy, Pedo, Manbaby, etc etc. All used as different ways of saying "Man I find unattractive in my presence"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:13 PM
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More importantly shame almost never works as a public health strategy. Does enabling? Because that sure as shit is what we're doing. The fact that we went through the entire covid pandemic without any major news outlet actually acknowledging how much of a predictor being fat was to poor outcomes. What a shock, it turns out all that extra weight on your chest and adipose tissue isn't great when your body is fighting off a sever respiratory disease, but rather than a single billboard saying "Hey, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:09 PM
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I enjoy alcohol and gambling. Yet, nobody is going to call you stunning and brave for waking up on a park bench covered in your own puke after gambling away your life savings the night before. But, we have to walk around pretending fat women who are the walking advertisements for heart disease and diabetes are "brave kweens" because they walk around with an attitude. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:06 PM
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Nobody is fucking broke fat men or calling them "kings". Fat broke women are going out to the club and fucking desperate drunk guys while while being called called "stunning and brave" and "kweens"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:01 PM
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Lifestyle and opportunity plays a massive part in these things. Case-in-point. Step 1: Blame every externality possible. What's next muh thyroid?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:00 PM
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Cleaning up our language is mummery - it's a stupid farce designed to preserve the feelings of people who need to have their feelings hurt because of their decisions. And this is why men need MEN'S SPACES. Women fuck everything up when men attempt to discuss reality because women will come in and tone police the conversation until it has no more productive purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:58 PM
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It is hypocritical for a woman to only date men who make 6 figures when she makes minimum wage...never said it wasnt. Funny you don't call this "dehumanizing" or "objectifying" in this case, merely "unrealistic" I guess those judgmental labels are reserved for men with standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:55 PM
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Yeah these women are trash and dont represent most women. YES they fucking DO represent most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:53 PM
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The issue is the men saying they don't want women with high body counts usually have high body counts themselves. How can women not get "men and women are different" through their heads on this? Men who live in reality know what a crock of shit this "both genders can be sluts!" nonsense is based on simple observation. If somebody has a history of substance abuse and works / lives in a situation in which they are around alcohol and drugs all the time, you'll also recognize they aren't a great bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:51 PM
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The word damaged is not meant to be used to describe people, it is meant for objects. Shit like this is why no man listens to women. It's cringey tone policing done to obfuscate the factual nature of the discussion. You know exactly what is being said, but you're ignoring it because you "take offense" to the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:47 PM
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unless she is compensating him with any combination of the following: better social connections and interactions, sex that she doesn’t necessarily desire, higher physical attractiveness, and child care/domestic labor/management LMAO. What the actual fuck is this? So, by your own logic a man who has fucked hundreds of women should be able to demand a virgin so long as he "compensates" with "better social connections and interactions and money" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:45 PM
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Men and women are not the same. Can you acknowledge this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:43 PM
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if she's too into religion or astrology. Ruling out 90% of women right here. Also, you'd still bang her regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:42 PM
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Will you acknowledge that the more physically attractive somebody is, the more leeway they will be given in terms of what is deemed "offensive"? Or is it only men who do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:41 PM
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red pill on some level try to sell a fantasy each with just a different cast of characters Even if it is a "fantasy", achieving that fantasy requires men face the harsh, brutal truths that RP acknowledges. BP doesn't even acknowledge the truth in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:40 PM
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wOmEn aRe jUsT pEoPlE!1!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:38 PM
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You're simply equating Tate to RP. I've benefited greatly from internalizing the realities that RP teaches, and I think Tate is a clown. And this is the fundamental problem. The more people pull this "If you are redpill, you are a Tate loving misogynist" will create more Tate followers at the end of the day, because you are shitting on guys for merely asking questions. I hate to go here, but history is littered with demographics who were showing signs of trouble, but then told "you just suck, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:38 PM
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Men who "hold frame" until they die of a heart attack lest the woman deem him a lesser man, or "emotionally vulnerable" men in dead bedrooms, or letting their wives have "boyfriends", that's how.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:34 PM
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Now do feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:32 PM
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Young men who approach life with kindness, humility, openness and empathy for others, and gratitude for what they have are doing just fine. LMAO. I love when people jump into a thread and prove its point by spouting the same nonsense platitudes masquerading as "advice" that leads to bitter incels in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:31 PM
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Parents who lack social skills and community, all else equal, raise worse-off kids than parents who do. Nope. My entire family was extremely liberal ex-hippies (and I'm still politically very liberal). The notion that being raised by social, outgoing parents has anything to do with it is silly. The real issue is the current zeitgeist of "toxic masculinity", and my family which consistent of almost all women who were constantly complaining about how bad and predatory men were, especially sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:30 PM
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If it is, it’s just as manipulating as push up bras and moderate to extreme makeup. Didn't you the memo? If women do those things it's because of "muh societal expectations" or specifically "men's demands" of them... But it's also "for themselves" when it's convenient. Any behavior men exhibit to gain any benefit in romance or dating is just men being terrible predatory people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:24 PM
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I wasn’t discussing “systemic issues.” Really? You just just talking about one-on-one relationships? lol. Let's take a look... It seems like boys need to feel powerful or else they feel bad and like “society abandoned them.” Male preference is that they are the powerful ones amongst other men and amongst all women. Is every man going to be a Lord and leader? Does every man have the capacity or competency for that? Are there enough natural followers for that? Yeah. You were most certainly discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:22 PM
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It seems like boys need to feel powerful or else they feel bad and like “society abandoned them.” Strawman. Change "powerful" to "purposeful" and you'll be getting warmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:17 PM
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Is this the one where the woman next to him basically ignores what he says, but instead wants to talk about what a bad person Andrew Tate is? The irony of her not understanding she was doing exactly what Prof G was just talking about was astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:16 PM
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As the above poster said, Macabre Storytelling actually pays credence to the appeal (and truths) RP contains that other advice does not. Destiny amounts to just spewing contrarian platitudes like "But ALL people are Hypergamous and want the hottest partner!" while he ignores the dominant social narrative that has existed for the past 20-30 years drilling into young men's heads that women are not like men in this regard. NotSoErudite is nothing but a well spoken cam girl. If she wasn't hot nobody…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:15 PM
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Fuck Chad. Time to start Fedmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:53 AM
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Well, sincerely thanks for being honest, but get ready to be called a "pickmeisha" etc for daring to state an obvious, observable and perfectly natural behavior. IMO, women admitting "hey, it's not the most fair thing, but I find it hard to get turned on by men who might otherwise be great people, but don't meet X requirement" It's almost like women on PPD see this as some horrifying admission of being (gasp) human.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:11 PM
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And for godsake, there's nothing wrong with that. We all have "less than virtuous" reasons for being attracted to people. The maddening thing is the gaslighting women on PPD (and often the world at large) engage in with this shit. Like trying to make it about "compatibility" or "life goals" lol no. It's not that complicated. Women get tingles for status since time immemorial. Women aren't worrying about "life goals" when they are fucking rock stars / celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:05 PM
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Single motherhood is praised because it's hard and comes with sacrifice Society in general admires single mothers who "do it all", which I'm not even saying shouldn't be the case, but to hold this up as some sort of marginalized concept in 2023 is simply inaccurate. it does not come with privileges and if this wasn't the case they wouldn't be considered lower on the totem pole of desirability. Yes, for dating Chad, it is a detriment. There is no shortage of average / normal status men who will d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:17 PM
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Are you telling me I just happen to know several of the very few women? Yes. Let's talk about people actively dating between the ages of 25-45 in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:58 PM
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I'm sure what you say is true for some most women but please don't lump us all together. There are a lot of very few women that do make more than their men, or are taller, higher status, whatever, and they still respect and love the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:49 PM
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it is true your ideas of success and the point of life are relative to each individual and their set of circumstances For women. Men will happily date a barista if she is attractive, fun, pleasant and caring. The man doesn't need to "respect her career" or for her to "match his income potential", because women are loved for who they are and men for what they do money is not the only criteria by which we judge a job You're right. It's actually status A job as say a fire fighter will likely not ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:45 PM
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The rest couldn’t look after themselves, let alone do all the domestic duties for a whole household. I always love this self report. 9/10 times when men are this lackadaisical it's because a woman dated a Chad out of their league and he knew he didn't have to do shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:16 PM
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You are skipping right past the fact that what you consider a "good job" is relative to your own status in life which conveniently means that as you move up, so will your criteria for what a man has to provide to you to qualify for your affection and respect. We have a word for that: Hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:11 PM
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No. She is trying to assign some moral virtue to what is fundamentally a product of her lizard brain's desire to have a man that is above her. But, of course, women are famously immune to any primal instincts right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:10 PM
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Except, it's really not. women generally lose their ability to make money for some period of time due to pregnancy, Single moms are utterly common and celebrated as being able to "do it all" There's also maternity leave and FMLA. When you live together, you have to match each other lifestyles Bullshit. Men have been happily acting as providers for all of human history. Men aren't demanding women "match their lifestyle". Why is that? Some women are traditional and/or want to be SAHMs. And are sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:09 PM
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Both. Men feel purposeful when they are fulfilling their biological imperative to produce offspring, and when they are protecting and providing for said offspring / family. This is also why men (in the past) often came out of listlessness when called upon to defend their country as the social contract (at that point) still valued their contribution. This isn't hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:01 PM
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Red pill men claim their “purpose” is to spread their seed and increase the chances of progeny. Which is it? Lol how is that not a purpose? Is a woman birthing and raising children not also a purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:13 PM
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Women are allowed to be needy, fragile, and emotionally volatile by other women, men and society at large, which is the whole point. Women select for stoic "emotional rock" type men. You don't get to blame men when women are the primary propagators / incentivizers of this behavior. You are talking about men and women as if they are the same, they are not. Men are not "defective women" they process things differently and should be allowed that and given help that fits their own nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:09 PM
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Somebody else used this analogy and it fits perfectly. It's like the difference between getting invited to parties 2-3 times a week, but electing to stay home because you're just burned out on parties and prefer a nice quiet night at home drinking tea, and spending years without getting invited to a single party and sitting at home with no hope of ever getting invited to one. This reality is that men and women experience being single in totally different ways. Women walk away because they are un…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:42 AM
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Re-read your first paragraph and tell me in what way that isn't just regurgitated misandrist nonsense. I also especially like how you ignore that all the male spaces and support systems have essentially been torn down or infiltrated and policed by women over the past 20-30 years because "muh boys club" or some such nonsense. Then turn around and talk about how men don't have support systems lol. You also conveniently ignore women's role in all this, as if they aren't the primary incentivizers of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:35 AM
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Women have spent the last 10-20 years demonizing, pathologizing and criticizing men and assigning collective guilt to them and now y'all surprised Pikachu's that there is a huge demographic of men who are maladapted about their place in the world and about women's nature? Cool story. It's almost like shitting on men for decades actually created men who feel shitty about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:55 AM
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I am 33 years old and I have plenty of options in the 20 and above range. Good for you. I'm almost 50 and in my 40's I've dated 4-5 women in their 20's. So? As a 33 year old man in good shape, fit, and with a good job I usually don’t even look women past 30. Why would I? Calling bullshit e-statting. If the woman was hot enough you would. Notice the weasel-word "usually". We're not talking about "usual" are we? As you just said, you are an outlier, so why are you bringing the word "usually" into …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:46 AM
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Some people (men and women) do not take rejection well. Some people also feel entitled. You're leaving out very important differences here: Women often feel and act "entitled" to men they want because they are taught, and get used to the fact that "men are horny animals" who should immediately comply with a woman's desires when sex is on offer Women do not live in a world in which harsh and near constant brutal or outright gratuitous romantic rejection is part of their life experience as men do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:05 AM
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I love how studies that show "men are uniquely bad in such and such a way" are just accepted here, but literally countless studies showing women engaging in hypergamy, solipsism, lack of empathy, duplicity, and outright gaslighting / dishonesty is always met with the mantra of NOT ALL WOMEN!!1!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:59 PM
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on average men have it easier than women past 30 No. most women past 35 become utterly invisible. Lol, yes, "invisible" so basically like men of any age? And you are falling into this "most women" trap. We aren't talking about that any more than we are talking about "most men" when talking about a 40 year old man who can still pull 25 year olds. Men on the other side, are generally well considered in their 30s No. If they are fat, balding and boring they aren't shit. A woman who has maintained h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:04 PM
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men have shitty support systems, are less likely to have friends and are far less likely to support each other in an interpersonal and institutional standpoint. Most men are too busy competing with each other and frankly, this is not gonna get better until men start to truly work to support each other from a place of genuine support (the issue i see with many active male groups is they exist as a reactionary first, support group second) Ah yes the old "it's men's own fault that they are self del…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:57 PM
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Also, NO ONE can make you happy. Happiness is an internal endeavor. No. Human beings are social creatures with emotional and psychological needs. Men, in particular, famously need a "purpose" to the extent that it appears to literally be built into their DNA. So the notion that there are no externalities in terms of emotional well being is false. I know for a fact that I am far more at peace when I am in a relationship with steady affection and sex and not sitting here wondering when if I may ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:53 PM
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And relationships are much, much, much more than just the first few dates. That's a different discussion. How does a man get to the point of being in "a relationship" with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:50 PM
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As a man I was in a fwb with a desperate, needy woman. Indeed it is awful, but the fact is a man even exhibiting a hint of neediness is a death sentence. A woman has to basically be a Stage-5 Clinger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:48 PM
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Men are dying of thirst in the desert. It’s clear there’s very little water. Women are dying of thirst in the ocean, surrounded by toxic saltwater. This is a good saying, but it ignores one big factor: EFFORT The ocean analogy is more that women are indeed surround toxic saltwater, but they are also floating with a life preserver and a wet suit waiting for a rescue ship (Chad) to come pick her up. Men are trudging, weak and desperate through a desert desperately trying to find an oasis (Literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:46 PM
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Yes. Men and women have it different because men and women are different. Lol this seems to need to be re-stated in every thread on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:34 PM
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needy women are undesirable depending on what they need you for It's this exactly. And the point behind this is that men being needy for precisely the same things as women is seen as repulsive to women. Women can talk about how you "need to tell me / show me you love me" and men won't bat an eye, because men want to make women happy. If a man said anything remotely similar the woman would dry up like the Sahara.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:34 PM
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Women are repulsed by desperation and neediness because it’s childlike. True. Needy women are not attractive to males who have their shit together. False. Men are instinctively driven to provide for and protect women they are attracted to. How is that news to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:32 PM
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IMO this is a large part of why men tend to self-delete after breakups far more often than women. Nobody rallies around an emotionally hurt man, they avoid him. When a woman is hurting, there is an army of white knights offering her a dick shoulder to cry on, and her girlfriends are there to welcome her back to the "girls night out crew" with open arms. Women will very often deliberately enter a "hoe phase" after a painful breakup, where she self medicates with a series of Chadcocks and Girl's N…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:25 PM
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I agree with almost everything you just said, but let's be honest here - When RP talks about "The Wall" (and I'm RP btw) they aren't merely talking about things becoming "more even" they are jumping right to "Have fun with your cats old woman!" which is idiotic. 35 old man keeing in shape and being successul has surely MANY more quality options than her. No man. Just no. Not sure how old you are, but this is laughably false. A 35 year old man who has taken care of himself will have MANY more qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:17 PM
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Ah yes, dismissive snark. The sign of an intellectual juggernaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:29 PM
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less options != NO options There are also many women I know who basically glowed themselves up after the end of a relationship. One chick at 35 got out of a 10 year relationship. She started going to the gym obsessively, got implants, changed her makeup and style and is now objectively hotter than she was at 25 where she was plain, frumpy and bloated. Is this the norm? No. But neither are guys hitting their 40's being in top shape the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:28 PM
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This is not realistic of how women today yes in 2023 are actually expected to live Where is this popular culture narrative of what a woman is "supposed to be"? Please show me. We're not living in "Mad Men" we're living in "Ghostbusters 2016", "Velma" and Lena Dunham's "Girls". Of course there are still “feminine” stereotypes to uphold. No there aren't. The only reason left for women to complain about this shit is because they are pissed they have to "uphold" those standards for Chad. Otherwise, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:31 AM
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How many times do I have to go over this, y'all need to stop with this "U dOnT kNoW woMen!" retort with me. I was raised by nothing but women. Single mom, 3 older sisters, 2 aunts, 2 grandmothers. I've dated / had LTR's with countless women and lived with several. Stop acting like I am just inventing these observations out of whole cloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:26 AM
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What you all are missing is that this so called great “latitude” that women enjoy goes hand in hand with expectations of women that fall into “feminine stereotypes and expected behavior” No, I'm not missing this. I great up around women and was raised by women, and have dated women for decades, so it's not like this is some invisible process to me. People need to stop talking like we're living in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Nobody is demanding jack shit from women in 2023 other than for them to "li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:09 AM
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Cool story. But, predictably fits into the "BuT i'M nOt lIkE tHaT" fallacy / gaslighting that women on PPD and the internet in general love to engage in so they can continue to ignore the point being discussed when the obvious answer doesn't serve the "women are wonderful" narrative. https://bi.org/en/articles/bi-men-are-not-considered-attractive-new-study-says Or are we going to play make-believe that women don't still demand that men adhere to masculine stereotypes in both appearance and behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:47 PM
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Men can use these things too, only yourself and internalized patriarchal views are holding yourself back. LMAO ... cue Dr. Evil "riiiigght" GIF. But, honestly thank you. Thank you for one of the most crystalized examples of men being held responsible for women's preferences. And more importantly how utterly insane the current "women are wonderful" narrative has actually become. Women are famously disgusted by bisexual men, let alone (non-famous) men who would wear makeup or a dress. Let's not ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:11 PM
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I tend to agree with the sentiment that a (good) suit is basically "makeup for men". However, there are far fewer venues in which a suit is even an appropriate option, whereas makeup and other flattering clothes for women is basically unlimited.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:06 PM
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Past 30 years old women quickly become invisible and dynamics invert This is some Zoomer shit and only applies if the woman has let herself go / become buttergolem level fat. In-shape women up to 40 can easily maintain their hotness to such a level as to have an army of simps and white knights at their disposal. I know women over 40 who pull this off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:36 PM
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Actually getting a successful OF is not easy. This is one RP thing that needs to go away. OF is basically where women live in the world average men do. If you are not in the top top 5-10% of women in this category you get essentially nothing. Hell, I've known hot women who failed at this. It's not some 'slam dunk' income men seem to think it is. Just because some middling thot can get a bunch of likes and DM's on IG does not mean she's going to be able to compete in an market like OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:35 PM
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The initial argument was that men need a rigorous diet and exercise routine to be seen as attractive AVERAGE Men - that is men, with an unremarkable face. You know, the ones that 80% of women famously think are "below average"? It doesn't hurt their chances, but past a certain point they'll get more admiration from other men if anything. "past a certain point" is a weasel phrase. It could mean anything. We're not talking about Arnold or The Rock here. We're talking about THIS kind of transformat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:30 PM
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That's because men underestimate the importance of face, haircut, clothes, accessories, and of course attitude. But the body is definitely an improvement and can't hurt his chances, it just isn't sufficient. Agreed, but don't move the goalposts. The criteria wasn't "improve" the criteria was "have a noticeably fit physique" Yes, if you have a model-tier face, you can get away with having a dad bod. Same with Status (hello Leo) At the same time, there are plenty of other ways to get noticed by wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:00 PM
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If he wants to look like a bodybuilder or fitness model, yeah. Lol you think doing a year of 3x a week in the gym consuming just enough protein will make you look like a "fitness model" or "body builder"? No. It's 2023. Nobody "looks like a bodybuilder or fitness model" without being on gear. The only guys that get away with being out of shape and can still have an active dating life are guys with very attractive faces. For godsake, have you not seen all the delusional women who think Jason Mamo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:47 PM
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It’s only criticized when the attention is unwanted. LOL Yes, men know this all too well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:28 PM
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Meh, I can spend 2-3 hours a week in the gym, and get a decent body, it's not that intensive, unless you're looking to get to "beach model" level. For most men get anything outside of a DYEL body, we're talking years of doing this and doing the right routine with steady progressive overload. Don't undersell this as if some guy can walk into a gym and fuck around for a few hours a week. You might be mistaking guys who are just genetically thin (ectomorphs) who basically gain a little more mass fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:24 PM
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My boss shouldn’t want to fuck me. My friends boyfriend shouldn’t want to fuck me. That married man with kids my age shouldn’t want to fuck me. My dads friend shouldn’t want to fuck me. There are more situations where it’s inappropriate for a man to want to fuck me than it being appropriate. Don't try to change what you said. You said WANT not TRY or MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO or ASK TO. You said WANT which indicates you are being critical of their very desire for a thing. It's the same shit you see wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:11 PM
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Can only do so much. Washes off. Lol can only do "so much" https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tjN_RcCgWjM/maxresdefault.jpg Or have flat/saggy boobs or a flat/saggy ass No. Guys will deal with all of these for a not-fat / not bitchy woman. Only Chad will demand more. But then again... Only Chad counts right? Models work for the camera. Strippers, in low light. Except I've been with these girls in broad daylight at pool parties. They still get simped over. A woman working in an office cannot get away with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:46 PM
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HAVING to spend $1000s of dollars "thousands" 🤣 https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Combination-Eyeshadow-Lipstick-Eyeliner/dp/B0BHN8CJPT/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:29 PM
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makeup, hair extensions, heels, implants, etc Men can literally use all those things u mentioned to make themselves look better as well LMAO. Sure, Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:25 PM
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Men also have access to MANY things to make them more attractive Name them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:24 PM
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You have to be born with or purchase a feminine face, Makeup have decent hair Extensions have the correct body shape Don't be fat. Makeup helps but can only do so much without looking clownish. Wrong. Heavy contouring is amazing in photos but just looks like weird brown streaks in daylight irl. Wrong. Source: Have dated models and strippers and they do it all themselves. It takes a few YouTube tutorials for them to get good enough at it to have an army of simps. Height is the only area where men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:23 PM
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Hair can be a couple hundred dollars about once a month, Or a trip to CVS and a bottle of hair dye along with a trip to super cuts to clip off split ends. nails like $50 every two weeks Or Lee Press-On Nails Tanning and hair removal services same thing, fillers/Botox are hundreds of dollars every few months Tanning is 100% optional. Throwing this in is ridiculous. Same with fillers and botox. TIL women can't afford disposable razors and shaving cream lol. Then there’s the daily getting ready pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:19 PM
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When women have orders of magnitude methods of making themselves attractive than men do, this isn't making the point you think it is. Women have vast resources to cheat and obfuscate their genetics (makeup, hair extensions, heels, implants, etc), men basically have none
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:11 PM
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People in general are pretty ignorant about what the opposite sex has to do to look good That's fair and accurate, but I'm sorry, a woman who is not fat is basically automatically seen as attractive to the vast majority of men and that's indisputable. You can argue whether that's "shallow" or not, but most women can achieve an attractive physique by simply controlling their diet without ever setting foot in a gym. For a man's body to be noteworthy, he's looking at months or years in a gym. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:08 PM
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Is anyone really disputing that women have some advantages, just like men do? Yes. Every day by bloops on PPD and in mainstream culture and media, the zeitgeist is that men are inherently "privileged" in every metric over women. Don't be obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:58 PM
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Basically demonizing male sexuality and attraction as if it's a choice. Stop it. Women also "shouldn't want to fuck" the 6'2 abusive sociopath, aggressive ripped Chad chad with the jawline that can cut glass either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:52 PM
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Until they stop getting them, and then they start writing tweets and articles about "invisible woman syndrome" and how they aren't "treated well" (ie simped over) anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:48 PM
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Most men have no idea how much it costs to look good. Lol I remember somebody posting a thread from FDS a while ago where the women were all in agreement that because men naturally have more muscle mass, all men have to do is "spent 30 minutes in the gym a couple of times a week" to have a model-tier physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:41 PM
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You do realize time is money right? How much time do you think it takes in the gym for an average guy to get and keep broad shoulders, and big arms much less a six pack then get back to me on the one time cost of the above things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:39 PM
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It's funny because you sound so similar to me at your age. When I was around 15 I found it very difficult to find other teenagers I could connect with. It wasn't even a matter of "Oh, I'm so mature" or whatever, but just I honestly felt more comfortable around older people because I couldn't relate to people my age on a basic level in terms of interests and lifestyle. This had a lot to do with my childhood I'm sure, but ultimately I was a misfit and liked hanging around other misfits who embrace…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:16 PM
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Just want to say, holy shit this might be the most "reason pilled" and mature response on this thread. And you're 20 years old with this perspective? (cue accusations of grooming) Most girls I know actually prefer older guys by quite a wide margin, myself included. I've never had anyone say anything bad about it Welcome to PPD. You're about to hear a whole lot of people say bad things about it. Lots of people here are going to tell you about how your brain isn't "fully developed yet" and that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:03 PM
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So basically, you've never experienced spontaneous desire from a partner? You should try it some time. Having your woman text you during the day how much they want your hard dick in their mouth is a damn site different than "what are you going to do to seduce me for the 10000th time?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:16 PM
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*does not apply to fat chicks There. If a woman is not fat, she absolutely can have hundreds of matches in a matter of days. There have been countless experiments and studies to show this. It's not a controversial take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:13 PM
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I have another post that explains that this (briefly) gets flipped during the "limerence" phase. In all other phases from courting to long term marriages, the man is expected to "dance" for the woman. Women "flirting" to induce responsive desire = wearing a short skirt, or winking with a smile. Men "flirting" = being fit, being strong, being funny, being confident, but not an asshole, being decisive, being competent (fixing things), making her feel sexy without feeling like a slut, being caring …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:09 PM
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2023 are shamed for their sexuality and told they are predators from a young age and that they don't wanna feel like they are forcing/coercing/manipulating their partner into desiring them? We are literally told thousands of times that enthusiastic consent is necessary for sex or else we are predators. I know multiple men over 40 who are virgins for this very reason. Fuck this narrative forever. I do believe people are waking up to what bullshit it is though (finally)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:06 PM
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Have you ever seen the average woman try to "flirt" with an indifferent man? You seriously would want to do that every day of the week? Big doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:24 PM
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If all women had the same sex drive as men we probably wouldn’t be getting anything done Not directing this at YOU, but this happens a lot on PPD. I just can't with women on PPD. When it suits their argument, they are "just as horny" as men, but then in another conversation they freely acknowledge the difference. Basically, if it's a way to equate their own need for self control, dating or sexual struggles and difficulties to men's, suddenly they are "just as horny" as men, but then when it's an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:03 PM
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Washing his car would just result in small dick jokes from women because it couldn't benefit her. Bingo, it's got to be changing a tire, oil or a sink trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:00 PM
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as a man you don't get to feel desired because you are fully aware about how it is not about you being desirable I'll push back on this a bit, because there's something I call the "hooked" phase, where after you perform enough, she begins to "only have eyes for you" and the woman actually does become the more desirous and horny one. It's happened to me more than a few times, but the catch is, it doesn't last. It's usually only during the limerence phase and it involves her wanting to fuck all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:58 PM
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is predominantly due to women responding to other women wanting their man, not them wanting them. Based and Dreadpilled. I absolutely hate how true this is, and am amazed at how unaware most women are to their own tendency to do this shit. I live in a city and there are a lot of cute bartenders at places where I'm a regular. We'll kind of flirt in a customer / server sort of way, and sometimes I'll get a crush on them and try to hint that maybe we could hang out outside of the bar sometime, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:55 PM
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Lmao, no. One week on OLD would achieve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:45 PM
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Any man who has rejected a woman (especially a woman hotter than himself) for a date or sex knows just how much of a meltdown this often results in. As others have said, women saying they can "handle rejection" are only handling mild rejections from "maybe" guys because they have a bench 100 deep of more of them. It's when hot girls get fixated on a particular guy that the fireworks begin. Sure they can turn down that guy that "seemed ok" and she'd "give him a chance", but if she finds a guy tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:20 AM
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This is no different than Chad rejecting some average plump chick. That's why it rolls off. The issue is when a guy gets his hooks into a hot girl somehow. It's the old light switch. If that light switch is ON and you sexually reject a woman who is used to men chasing her she will have an absolute meltdown. I've seen women get violent at worst and call me gay or other such insults at best when I express a disinterest in fucking them after they decided they were going to "give" it to me. Some ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:15 AM
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Nah, I can envision what you're saying, but a guy like that is basically 1 in a million and by definition not even neurotypical because you have to have a temperament and disposition that is congruent with all that. It still does prove a point, that a ridiculous adherence to "you gotta be a male model!" is just dumb and I agree with that. I still some "types" have the ability to project swag in a way that your average skinny white nerd never could, and that's just life IMO. I would also point ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't get how people think that because they can't run up to a random chick waiting for her uber with her AirPods in that this somehow means you can't talk to a girl anywhere else. Talking to girls is SO situational, and the barrier changes from venue to venue. Basically, you have to create an 'out' for the girl based on how awkward the situation might be. At a bus stop for example, you have to put out a couple of feelers (does this bus go to X?) or whatever, and then try to gauge her re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:56 AM
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men stand very little chance in custody battles unless the women is a complete heroin addict or in jail. No matter his parenting skill. This 100%. If anything this is underblown
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:54 AM
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if you aren't really putting care and effort into your diet, alcohol consumption, and exercise habits past your mid-20s the "wall" can hit you like a brick in your 30s, man or woman. Dead on, and I think that directly connects to: agree that plenty of women can be attractive in their 30s and even 40s, but they'll rarely out-compete hot women in their 20s and a man in his 30s and 40s will often outcompete men in their 20s. IMO, this is because women's hotness is, for the most part unearned. It co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:52 AM
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While I admit, as a barely average sized guy, I've generally been okay, I also see that women's propensity to talk openly about small / big dick energy doesn't help things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:48 AM
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While I don't disagree with the BP ridiculousness over "Chad or it's over" I am simply never gonna buy these Schrodinger's Chad anecdotes. I'm old. I've been around. I've had many many friends. I can can't on one hand the amount of men who were average or below who could "slay" with women. First, guys are often terrible judges of what makes a guy actually attractive to women. And regardless, your friend likely had god-tier game, crazy charisma, pre-selection, and also just found a niche (sorry t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:46 AM
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I suspect you can't tell the difference between "bullying" and "ball busting" they are very very different. a man’s penis getting wet is more important than his well-being They are directly correlated. Or do you not understand that throughout human history men's assertiveness, status and risk taking was a requirement for proving himself to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:51 PM
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Gillette Ad: The Reddit Post. Brought to you by... well... you know. But all this nonsense can be put to rest with one simple question: What is the prime motivating factor behind men's behavior throughout human history and who must they cater to in order to achieve this in the modern world?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:37 PM
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Yeah I guarantee most guys are more squeamish about a woman who's only slept with 8 guys, but 5 of them are his friends vs a woman who's slept with 20 random guys. GREAT point. In fact, I don't exes of my friends for similar reasons. But yeah, if some girl had banged 3 out of 5 of my friends before getting with me, I would certainly not feel great about it even if the next girl I dated had a higher N count overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:36 PM
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All fair. Regarding 1, I admit I'm not as versed on this, but I've never seen this happen to anybody I know. I assume the vast majority of average things called "divorce rape" involve a SAHM that didn't have a career. Was she just a lazy bum chilling on the couch? Maybe, but I don't see it as some outrageous scenario for a woman who is staying home with no income to (theoretically) take care of the home to be able to rebuild a life after the end of a supposed life-long partnership. 2 - Age Gaps,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:31 PM
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Yeah, the issue of vindictive women I'd say if anything is UNDERstated tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:18 PM
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"poison M&M's"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:18 PM
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Got to disagree with this one. While I don't see many people outright "rejected" from socializing as you say (unless they are total assholes and just off-putting which definitely exists see: Eliot Rodger, et al) I absolutely do see guys who are very social (more than I am easily) and never get dates much less sex because they are very short, asexual or otherwise seen as physically unattractive. Fortunately these people still "enjoy life" at least outwardly, but despite them being cool, and socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:10 PM
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Bingo almost included this one, but I figure others will have a better explanation than me. Unless the woman is an "active slut", it's rarely something I've seen be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:49 PM
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THIS. This is another RP one that gets thrown around and I rarely see it. What I do see is rich dudes simping for women who are at best indifferent to them and "let them" take them out and show them off. I've never seen a woman outside of a straight up sex worker go after some nasty ass guy solely because he has money. Shit, in Silicon Valley autistic, nerdy millionaires are a dime a dozen. They are most certainly not swimming in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:43 PM
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Sexist air conditioners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:42 PM
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LMAO, I was raised by nothing but women, have 3 older sisters and half of my friends are women. Only a terminally online (on TwoX participant particularly) would believe that fantasy of persecuted and constantly judged women in the 21st century. The terminally online take is absolutely that "women live in a hellsscape of judgement and danger"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:09 PM
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Uh huh. We're talking about the proportion of compatibility. Go ahead and rate these elements of compatibility: Emotional Sexual Cultural Religious Humor Curiosity Hobbies TV Shows Music Pop Culture None of the first five anything whatsoever to do with age, as I've discovered from dating women anywhere from 10 years older than me to 20 years younger. I've met utterly emotionally damaged and immature women and their 40's and utterly stable and mature women in their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:51 PM
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Let's update this for 2023 Women get judged for how many kids they have Single moms are celebrated for not having kids Strong independent career women are celebrated for the make up they wear Nope. Kardashian style "contouring" is embraced and celebrated and praised. for not wearing make up Nope. "Natural beauties" are celebrated for being too fit LMAO, not even worth responding. Unless you mean by fat women? for being ugly You have to be a literal burn victim to openly get called "ugly" as a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:46 PM
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I'm talking about how women are judged for everything in life no matter what. LMAO by who? What mainstream media / news / etc is saying "There is a crisis of undatable women!" Female subs discuss this a lot. They also discuss astrology and healing crystals. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:09 PM
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Let's play reddit woman's insult roulette: Touch Grass Who Hurt You? You don't get laid!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:32 PM
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You and other women in this thread: Bedroom Police Karens Me: Let adults make their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:17 PM
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Women aren’t afforded the right to refuse without risking their safety. What a sad sad world to live in. You just think men are going to ignore a woman's feelings here? If you do, do you think that in any way whatsoever is related to age? Shit, you could make the case that older men would be less likely to be pushy horndogs that ignore women's protests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:16 PM
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Barack Obama was an intern at Michelle Obama's law firm. Would you have advised Barack to "watch out for Michelle, she's a gross predator!" Do you think Barack has "Trauma" over the whole thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:14 PM
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I suspect you pick extremely attractive and thus high maintenance women. So you mean how basically all western women see themselves today? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:13 PM
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but those moments when it was just the guys, all tired as fuck, working throughout the day without food sometimes, it's something that most women will never understand Eggzactly. Women can't comprehend a life where you live with accountability at just about any age, so they of course see young women as "pampered children"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:13 PM
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Exactly. Women here acting like "liking the same movies" and "growing up to the same music" means "compatible"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:36 PM
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I heard that women don’t learn accountability until they lose their looks. Holy shit. This. Add it to the RP commandments lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:30 PM
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Because men don't seem to care about other men the way women care about other women. Women good, men bad. No, this is because men of all ages see younger men as MEN not naive little kids when it comes to their sexual agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:25 PM
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There's a power dynamic. ... Ignores the 'power dynamic' of young hot women's "erotic capital"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:16 PM
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I wouldn't "advise" a child who an older man was going near, I'd call the fucking police. The fact that you use this example in a discussion about a grown 25 year old woman dating a 45 year old man really says it all. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:14 PM
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I think young men are just as incapable and susceptible to manipulation. Nobody believes this and a simple observation of women's posts and stated opinions on the matter shows this to be utterly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:12 PM
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Not really, Finally somebody admits outright that younger women are incapable of making decisions such as who to fuck. Now let's take that a couple of steps further and you'll have "horseshoe'd" all the way back to some weird tradcon RP world where women shouldn't vote or be in the military. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:12 PM
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Both are fucked up. Men SIMPS love it when girls start onlyfans the minute they are legal. Male projection once again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:10 PM
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Better to find them than to not. At least then you can pay attention to figure out if it's a deal breaker. And it's the obsession with labeling anything and everything as 'red flags' that has made western women basically undatable. They are in a constant state of neurosis and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:09 PM
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Power, size, and gender differential coupled with social mores which cause women to kowtow and acquiesce Ah ok, so women are lesser and should be treated as such. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:05 PM
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Would you do the same with: Musicians? Athletes? Men of different races? I love how women on these threads always try to use the "I did it once and it turned out bad" as if this is the sole reason for a bad relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:05 PM
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The truth is men are attracted to vulnerability more so than youth. And women are attracted to masculine physical features, status, confidence and assertiveness which (wait for it) generally come WITH AGE.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:03 PM
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If an 18-year old white person is being creeped on by a 50-year old black person, I'm grossed out. FTFY. This same "grossed out" shit is a common excuse to 'disapprove' of gay relationships as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:02 PM
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Almost like women are either less predatory with their sexuality or men are more likely to refuse to express trauma. LMAO and this is what "talking past eachother" means. We (men) see younger adult men as human beings with agency to fuck whoever they want, not "victims of trauma" Hell, my first sexual experience was with a 25 year old woman when I was 15. Now, according to women on PPD I should have been crying in a fetal position in a r4p3 shower for months after, but no, I was as happy as coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:00 PM
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But yes, many of us would be similarly concerned if a 50 year old woman was sexually harassing an 18 year old boy. Excuse me, man. No you would not be 'similarly concerned" whatsoever and nobody believes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:59 PM
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But it’s equally problematic to anyone who actually cares about that kind of thing. This is where you women will lose half your audience because nobody, and I mean nobody in their right mind believes this nonsense. Women DGAF about a younger man banging an older woman because it makes them feel good at an existential level (oooh! you go queen! Stella got her groove back!) because they innately see men (even young men) as predators with their own agency and women as prey with no ability to make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:58 PM
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Then why not say what you'd say to any 2 consenting adults? "I wish you the best! Have fun!" But no, the inner Karen is too strong for that. Must "shield" the delicate flower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:55 PM
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That is certainly a claim you’ve been making with nothing to back it up with. Except the very fact that you need to "check in" with a woman fucking an older guy shows this beyond doubt. The point OP made was he sees young men doing jobs like construction or operating heavy machinery and he doesn't immediately jump to "I'd better check in on him since I know that older woman was flirting with him earlier" This is pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:53 PM
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Women don’t have time to babysit all the naive young women in our sphere. You CAN'T be serious? Have you missed social media for the past 10 years? If she nods that’s she’s okay, we forget about it .5 seconds later. Then hop on reddit and talk about how 'a gross creepy man was harassing my friend' (who happened to be willingly dating the guy)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:52 PM
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"Harass" is Karenese for "Anything I don't approve of"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:50 PM
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Nice dodge. If both adult parties choose to have sex then what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:49 PM
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Never said they can't make their own decisions. Then... the responsibility of the senior person in these situations who should leave young people to other young people Uh huh. So, the "senior person" should disregard the younger person's agency (and their own desires) because ... Come on, I know you can say it! The younger person as a child (in your eyes) can't be trusted to make their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:43 PM
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Exactly, I don't believe for a second that these women would be 'up in arms' about one of their older friends fucking some hot young guy on holiday. It's convenient virtue signaling so they can maintain their shaming of age gaps in the other direction 9/10 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:37 PM
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Yes, you're right, I've dated mostly American White women in the past year, so this has been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:15 PM
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I’m very active. I don’t want to hear about an older man’s knees unless he blew them out playing a pro sport. I’m an audiophile. I don’t want to listen to Bon Jovi, Poi[SNIP] Lol again: cries about how "women are individuals and aren't the same! We all like different things!", then in the next breath reads a litany of boomer cliches to try to make a point when it's convenient. It's also pretty hilarious how versed you seem to be in your stereotype. Somebody thinks about this shit A LOT. It's als…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:12 PM
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Or would he prefer coercing her via arranged marriage and simply accepting that she will never be attracted? TF is talking about an "arranged marriage"? But sure, if you mean like more than half of what men will end up with by getting beta buxxed by a combative western land whale who simply "tolerates" him while secretly resenting him for not being Chad because she's convinced she's a kween who should never settle, yeah I'll take the hotter more feminine option every time. Not a tough call there…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:39 AM
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I sincerely hope these men get the attention they crave. No you don't. You're sitting here spewing venom and belittling such men if not outright claiming they don't exist. There is zero benefit in cock blocking a bunch of randoms on the internet, what women are saying in this thread is that it’s uncommon for young women to enjoy attention from much older men. No, they (and you) are saying they don't exist outside of "exploited women" or "sugar babies" What I am saying is hey, maybe don’t postpon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:30 AM
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Yes, women, especially white women in America will routinely get "the ick" when you so much as show up with a belt that doesn't match your shoes. Are we going to pretend western women don't have insane laundry lists for "deal breakers" for men many of which are completely immutable physical traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:08 AM
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Where's the lie? The few times I've ever found men significantly older than me attractive was because they were incredibly charismatic, very attractive for their age, and — most importantly — weren't aggressive flirts with zero social awareness. The average Joe Oldie that tries hitting on me or my friends has none of those qualities, so it would be disingenuous to include men like him in the class of "older men attractive enough to date younger women". How in the ever loving fuck aren't women on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:04 AM
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It’s more fun to consider women homogenous because men believe it’s easier to game them if all women are the same. LOL. You literally just made declarations about what "women prefer" and now you're trying to pull the "wOmeN aLl lIkE dIfFerEnt tHinGs!" Well, we agree. Women do like different things. And using your own logic some women genuinely like older men, correct? Checkmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:56 AM
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Except, in 2023 western women consider any compromise "settling"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:29 AM
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I was told women "can't be attracted to a man until she truly gets to know them" and that "ugly guys can become attractive because of their personality" and "even like guys with bad acne scarred skin" that "Chad is a myth" etc. But that was Tuesday. It's Thursday now, so I'm sure the answer is now "Tall, big dick, perfect skin and thick head of hair only" I love how quickly women on PPD completely change their answers to suit whatever narrative makes them look good in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:26 AM
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Andrew Tate is a walking contradiction and so is your admiration of him. Except I never said I admired that clown, just that his existence and popularity is directly related to the backlash. So let's skip over any assumed defense I would make of him. I'd love to know how the world is 'gynocentric and misandrist' let me peek into your schizo delusion filled world for just one second. Lol ok. Start with these. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brauer-college-school-assembly-boys-stand-up-apologise-gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:22 AM
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Andrew Tate always makes me think scientists put early 2000's Neil Strauss in that machine that made Steve Rodgers come out as Captain America.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:32 AM
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Look for PPD women to simultaneously claim: Women think older men are gross and don't date them Then in the next breath Younger women date older men for their money Younger women date older men because they were "manipulated" into it The amount of older men attractive enough to date younger women is tiny and not even worth discussing Younger women only want younger guys because they are hot (despite claiming women don't really care about such superficial things) All women like different things, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:17 AM
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Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:12 AM
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Yes, I'm sure you'll tell me very unbiased stories about these "poor impoverished women who have no choice". Nope, no white paternalism going on here! I'm guessing you think women in porn are "forced" to do so through "coercion and manipulation" by men as well. Anyway, I've been on PPD long enough to know who the most unhinged bad faith feminist lunatics are on this sub so ....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:09 AM
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No, men behave degenerately and women call it out. Yep. Like I said, you call it out like some unhinged Westborough Baptist nuts protesting gay funerals with your ceaseless ranting about "mansplaining", "rape culture", "the male gaze" and sexist air conditioners. The gig us up. Deal with it. Nobody is buying that nonsense anymore. You think the rise of the extreme parts of the manosphere happened in a vacuum? Andrew Tate and the like are just the edge line of the shifting Overton window away fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:05 AM
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This exactly. The OP that I made obviously shows the most transactional side of this whole equation (ie strip clubs and bar girls), but the bottom line is that an average man's base SMV is higher even in normal social environment's in places like SEA and SA, and that apparently pisses western women off to no end. Hence the screams of "green card!" or "using you for money!" etc. Which is absolutely hilarious because the implication is that somehow western women are less likely to be entitled user…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:58 AM
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Lol. The salt is delicious. Ya'll swung that pendulum WAY too far to the "men bad" side, and it's going to be glorious watching it swing back over the next 5-10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:53 AM
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I cannot comprehend how any man would be proud of or excited by the idea of sexually exploiting trafficked women. There’s something deeply and irredeemably broken about men like that. Lmao. Yes, because western women don't "exploit" men for resources, trips, dinners, entertainment, status and use every unearned privilege to try to lock down men out of their league ever. I also love how half the women jump right from "Freelancer / Bar Girl employed at a strip club making fast money" to "underage …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:46 AM
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I'd never speak to them again, I don't associate with whores Westborough Baptist Style.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:36 AM
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That behavior is hedonistic and juvenile. I have never respected the types of people who go wild on spring break for example. I think it's unintelligent and trashy. Yes, perhaps a book club meeting would be more appropriate. Meanwhile, some of us actually enjoy having some hedonistic good times once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:36 AM
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Are these men not consenting? I've been told by many PPD women that drunk sex is non consensual. Also, it's a fact that the male libido compromises their judgment far more than it does for women in the same circumstances. Women don't get 'blue balls' or feel desperately thirsty the way men do after going too long without sex. Men's judgement is often clouded by their desire for easy sex and fat women often take advantage of this to fuck out of their league. In short, a fat chick taken advantage …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:33 AM
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You do realize you are on a debate sub, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:39 PM
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I've dated them before. Any other recommendations?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:39 PM
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Because I live in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:36 PM
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Shelley Duvall, Underrated AF. She had such a unique beauty in her early years https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/jVvBt_xExS5x9ueffyERTA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk0MDtoPTU0NQ--/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/inquisitr_395/76833b8df71135d54b812a5b7a10720b
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:39 PM
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Marry: Prime Jessica Alba, Kristen Bell, Zazzie Beetz, Rashida Jones Date: Jennifer Anniston, Kristen Stewart, Alicia Keys Bang: Riley Reid, Abella Danger, Asa Akira, Megan Fox, Janice Griffith Overrated (but still attractive): Zendaya, Margot Robbie
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:32 PM
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Sophia Loren (in her prime). Great choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:26 PM
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Lizzy Caplan Interesting, she kind of has a Rashida Jones vibe who I also love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:24 PM
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I will say Vietnam, Phillippines, and Thailand have a lot of beautiful and relaxing places. Oh totally, and that's absolutely what I plan to focus on (again despite this OP lol) I am far more interested in the natural beauty of those places than the partying. Thanks. Maybe I'll be posting on PPD from one of those places, but I hope not haha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:23 PM
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What other countries would you want to visit? So far Central America (since I have family there), Brazil (same reason), Italy (family and to explore ancient roman sites), Spain, Germany, maybe an Eastern European country or two. Vietnam, Philippines and Thailand for the beaches and afore mentioned insane party vibe and beautiful (to me) women. However, those kinds of places are absolutely not the ones I would want to spend more than a few days at because it just seems so damn unhealthy with alco…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:12 PM
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I understand that, and I generally feel the same way, and I realize how ridiculous this sounds, but sometimes it's just for the "Disneyland" atmosphere. I never got a lap dance / vip room, but it's fun to just talk shit with the girls working there while having a drink. TBH, strip clubs are places where you can be around hot women, with party music and have some drinks without a bunch of angry douchebags threatening to fight you at every turn because their rules are strict, which I like. Yeah yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:07 PM
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West coast Asian-American women can be pretty spoiled, just like white women from that area. My ex is from San Francisco, which along with L.A., probably produces some of the most spoiled women around. Oh, 100% I got super lucky w/ my Fiancé (also from the Bay Area). She was an outlier even in her Vietnamese family in terms of being girly and feminine. She cheated, but this is definitely one of those things I recognize I contributed to (dragged my feet on moving forward w/ marriage, got out of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:44 PM
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I really don't think these women care because the percentage of men who can exploit this arb is pretty small. At least on PPD this is utterly incorrect. This is the same reason women here REEE about "muh predatory age gaps". No man who truly knows women will every buy this nonsense. It's clearly "competition anxiety" that women have of being replaced by a younger / newer model. And to your point, women freak out about this despite the vanishingly small number of older men who can actually attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:41 PM
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Fair points, however I would argue that in the US unattractive women have levels of entitlement and demands that have never before been seen. I'm not sure why this is a controversial statement at this point when women, despite being 2-1 college attendees "demand" men have degrees and despite being just as represented in the work force "demand" men make more than them and despite being "strong and independent" still "demand" men take on the masculine role of pursuer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:38 PM
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I watched the other videos and did not see any insane nonstop block parties. These videos don't resemble any city I've been to in the US, and I've been to all the major ones. The only one that seems remotely similar to this is Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras and that's once a year or maybe certain Pride parades. Just look at any other videos from this guy and it's pretty clear this isn't just your average US party town on a weekend. https://youtu.be/eHN-tkNodsE I'm not judging, but yeah a sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:33 PM
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Since I speak Spanish reasonably well (grew up in south Texas), I'd probably try Latin American countries, if I wanted to find something other than a "bar girl". I would agree with this. Half of my family is from latin America, and the "civilian" women there are 10x better than American women as well. In before angry PPD women scream "green card" or "exploiting poor womens!" etc. Having just gotten out of a decade long marriage, I'm content with Dallas FWB's and MILF's....at least for now. Oddly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:04 PM
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You're the one who linked a video of bored prostitutes milling around and said that it's what western men are missing out on. Maybe sell the experience better You focus on the 1 video and ignore the other 2 showing a clearly insane nonstop block party. I fail to see how those situations are the same at all. One involves sex workers and the other does not They are both one party taking advantage of their unique advantages in the SMP for their own benefit. Apparently, a woman using easy pussy to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:57 PM
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No. As other posters said, what I'm seeing from most of these "JUST GO WE DON'T CARE!" comments isn't really anger over guys they didn't care about leaving, it's an existential dread in the knowledge that their own value as western women is plummeting as men wake up to how utterly awful western women are compared to the alternatives. You see this all the time with western women. They freak out whenever somebody is messing with their pussy cartel rules. Also see: Muh age gap, muh fatphobia and Mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:30 PM
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60% of men are "single" 30% of women are "single" Do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:27 PM
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your precious Chads also literally worship our jellyrolls too No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:26 PM
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Good points, but if you're pulling from clubs in a major city consistently, you don't really have an issue. However, there's still just the issue of how unpleasant and soul destroying dealing with western women's combativeness, entitlement and narcissism. This is truly the thing you escape by leaving the west regardless if the woman is a pro or just a regular local.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:24 PM
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Lol nobody said it was gonna be all pretty. And I fail how this differs from some drunk Chad lingering at the bar at 1:50am waiting for that deluded 4 out of 10 to come up and offer to go home with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:22 PM
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Yep, him and Jim Norton described this perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:20 PM
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A man’s financial position is a huge factor in dating either way, so why not go somewhere where the women will practically be throwing themselves at you? Fucking FACTS. Western women can't accept the fact that for all intents and purposes they are just as transactional with men now even when they "date". If you aren't Chad, you'd better pony up all manner of benefits for her to justify her giving you her priceless pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:16 PM
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Yeah this sounds good until you realize western women consider any kind of "power imbalance" to be tantamount to prostitution. Even if you were to go to SEA and meet a woman and fall in love, fat American women will scream "gold digger!" and "green card!" anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:04 PM
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These men are either hermits or have serious personality flaws Yeah, modern western women and their inflated egos, narcissism and entitlement has absolutely nothing to do with it, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:03 PM
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Imagine getting pumped and dumped by Chad means you're a high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:02 PM
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How does that relate to an "Alpha" Chad with endless romantic and sexual options choosing to pursue a fat woman Are you familiar with the term "Low Hanging Fruit"? but the implication that men with options don't pursue fat women based solely desire is a lie and it's offensive. No, it's observable fact. Short of extreme outliers, fit hot men aren't fucking fat women unless it's to satiate an immediate need for easy pump and dump sex (usually with alcohol involved) Sorry, not living in the "Lizzo …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:57 PM
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You mean just like how the sex workers in Thailand aggressively and confidently pursue westerners? 🤣 DUNK.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:53 PM
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This just shows how incapable women are of really acknowledging the reality of modern dating for average men, let alone men below average height. It's insane because they can't contemplate a world in which you don't merely "pick who you want" from the various healthy BMI options on offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:51 PM
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Mathematically impossible. T Until you realize they are sharing Chad and just on his rotation. Lol somehow people read PPD and still don't get this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:43 PM
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I love how everybody jumps right to "underage hookers" Clearly nobody is watching the same videos with adult women working at bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:37 PM
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Can't disagree with this actually. I've never used a prostitute, but I've been with some hot women who basically fucked like I'd imagine they do, and that's not great either. Still, I'm not sure if people are watching the videos. Yes, the whole thing is kind of absurd (like an entire city that's a strip club) but that's kind of the point. Spending a week there could do wonders for a man in terms of reframing the overthinking and obsession with sex as being near "impossible to get" Is it "enterin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:37 PM
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OLD isn't real life It's 2023. Yes it is. 1 Chad, 20 women Lol this old math fail again? hey are there to make out with men and possibly have sex. They don't just go home after the Chad left the building. Um, that's exactly what they do after texting the other Chads they want to get railed by at 1:50am. Then they go home and wait to get lucky with a Chad. Again, women love to have it both ways. On one hand they happily go without sex rather than "settling" but then when it suits the argument, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:31 PM
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Seriously, we don’t hate you, we don’t bear you any ill will Suuuure you don't. Lol. The comments really sound very neutral about the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:00 PM
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So basically what sub five women do in bars to desperate horny guys above their league every weekend? Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:59 PM
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Western Women: "Drunk sex is R4p3!1! A Drunk woman can't consent!" Also Western Women: "It's the man's fault he regrets fucking that aggressive fat chick when Drunk" Also Also: "A woman choosing to sell her pussy for money can't consent!1! The man is to blame!" Heads women win. Tails men lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:57 PM
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Fair point actually. The issue is that women, as always, want it both ways. Sometimes they are "just as horny as men" and "have sex just for the sake of it" when it serves their argument that male sexuality is not unique, but then when they do something wrong, they suddenly will use the "emotional neglect" argument to justify that they just wanted to fuck some strange dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:55 PM
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Women can have standards, and pursue what she wants at any and every delusional level and be praised for it. She can use any tools at her disposal fair, or unfair to gain an advantage and date and fuck out of her league. Any standard a man has or any advantage he seeks in the dating / sex game is "toxic and predatory" PPD in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:33 AM
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So? I don't see women making daily posts about how great their life is getting pumped by Chads. Every woman that calls her self a "queen" or a "10 out of 10" or other such delusional nonsense that every woman in 2023 seems to believe is saying this with different words. They believe they are those things because they judge themselves by the guys that are willing to pump and dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:27 AM
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to claim it's a similar situation to sex tourism to 3rd world countries is disingenuous at best. You're right, the sweat shop situation is far far more ubiquitous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:26 AM
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Any woman who finds herself pining after whatever another woman has is going to end up incredibly unhappy. So basically half of women. Sounds about right. https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-10/poll-record-unhappiness-with-womens-position-in-us So, if all of the women you know behave that way, maybe you should meet some mature women who have grown out of that phase. Again. Half of women. Also "No true Scotsman" Most of the women I know are girl's girls and hype up other wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:23 AM
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this but unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:19 AM
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The idea of "chad" is ridiculous and doesnt exist. Man, I've been roommates and friends with some non-existing MF'ers in my life then. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:18 AM
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Cool, then it's almost like a woman stripping / fucking for cash is a conscious choice just like a desperate horny guy fucking a ham beast is a choice and we can all live with our choices and take accountability for them without turning it into some Lifetime Movie drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:14 AM
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Twitterbrained take of the thread. OK - Cut your dick off at 9 NOT OK - Have sex for money at 21
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:11 AM
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but if you act like a fool just for some pussy money you're an idiot. Glad we're in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:07 AM
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I have to say, this is the most reasonable and well thought out reply on this thread, and it came from one of the least expected sources. Obviously, I fully agree about the exploitation of children in any context (yes even in the manufacture of phones and shoes which we all own). But, it's also true that these districts have no shortage of law enforcement and are not some fly-by-night operation holding girls hostage. (which is evident if you watch even 60 seconds of the first video, it's a mains…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:03 AM
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Well at least you're consistent. Women using easy pussy to manipulate Chad into sex is indeed a horrible thing and should be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:57 AM
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And those women don't like you, they just want to attract you as a customer. And those Chads don't like you, they just want to pump and dump. Yet here we are in 2023 where it's Chad or Bust for a very high proportion of western women. but after reading stories about human trafficking and prostitution rings I dunno Do you also read the horror stories about how your phone is made? I somehow doubt that stops you from owning one that somewhere down the line contributed to sweat shop level exploitati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:55 AM
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If you want to be a sleazy scumbag, don't cry when you get called out for it. Hear that women? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:52 AM
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And yet, I go out into the world where the majority of couples, fuck buddies and ONS are looks matched. LMAO, you honestly believe "the majority of ONS are looks matched" This is beyond blue pilled. This is like Cyan. Ok, can now disregard this conversation. Thanks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:50 AM
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I see you missed the word "might choose" in the statement. As in, what might compel a Chad to travel to Poland and try his luck dating from a higher pool of model tier women with healthy BMI's there. But sure, let's just act obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:47 AM
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Well I'm not convinced but if anyone is using someone's that drunk and can't consent to things, then that's also bad. LOL. You seriously don't think overweight women taking home drunk desperately horny guys much more attractive than themselves is not a common occurrence? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:45 AM
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The fact that you actually compared the damn near universal practice of women dating hypergamously with the utterly uncommon niche of men traveling to countries where their SMV is through the roof is telling. They are not comparable in scale or frequency. My point about women being Chad Chasers is one of cause-and-effect. If women's demands keep reaching insanely ridiculous levels (as just about everybody acknowledges now) then why TF wouldn't men go somewhere there was a better deal. The whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:44 AM
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Yep, I would say the same to them. Thankfully the amount of those women is greatly exaggerated by RedPillers, No. Just no. In before "OLD isn't real life!" (it is), just go to any bar on a weekend in the US and you'll see how this absolutely is the case. Lol @ denying hypergamy as a damn near universal and obvious fact of life. Women date up in every metric (height, income, looks, etc). The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:40 AM
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Bruh, did you miss the part where we were talking about "Chad" and why he might choose to date outside of the US where the average woman isn't built like a linebacker?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:38 AM
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Only (fat, western) women are entitled to easy and abundant casual sex from people more attractive than them. Didn't you get the memo?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:37 AM
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Most women don't want to date sex tourists, Cool. Would you then understand why western men don't want to date "Chad Chasers"? which are basically the majority of western women at this point? I love how western women live in what is essentially a dick buffet, which they take advantage of when it suits them but REE about "muh transactional exploitation" when a man goes somewhere the playing field is leveled. Lol. As ever, anything a man does that isn't in service to entitled western women is seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:36 AM
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No having dignity is not exploiting women or enjoying that exploitation. Yet fat American women "exploit" drunk Chads eon the regular to get their little rush of dopamine to "feel sexy" do they not? If you don't wanna settle for someone then don't. Except women don't have to "settle" they can remain delusional and fuck casually or not at all due to their lower libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:34 AM
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not sure what's so special about it. Lol did you even watch any of the video? Where in the west outside of possibly small parts of Amsterdam does such an environment exist? Depends why he was going, I guess. As a tourist, no problem. If he was going purposefully to score some cheap ass, I probably wouldn't think very highly of him, but not my business. As if both can't be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:32 AM
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But any man with a modicum of self awareness and critical thought would see through the Con. You have to delude yourself in order to get any sort of ego boost out of it. Still missing the point. It's not about an "ego boost" it's about experiencing an alternate reality in which you as a man have some inherent perceived value. Basically, the same existence an average wester woman experiences. How is your statement not applicable to fat American women deluding themselves into thinking Chad actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:30 AM
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Are you okay? Another cliche. Waiting for the inevitable "touch grass" or "who hurt you" from the greatest hits of reddit comebacks. The point is that claiming "Chad" remaining behind is some net win for everybody ignores the fact that it's literally leaving a trail of broken women because those women can't bring themselves to date their equal in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:28 AM
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Because the average American woman is 5'4 and 175 lbs. Is that a good enough reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:26 AM
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It's not original because it's a pathetic passive aggressive attempt at exclaiming "I DON'T CARE!" before listing a bunch of reasons you actually DO care. The actual sentiment should be "You shouldn't spend a single second worrying about people judging you for pursuing happiness" But nah... Got to get in the cliches
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:25 AM
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But "Chad" isn't leaving No, he isn't. Why would he? He remains here in the US pumping and dumping delusional women at-will and leaving angry alpha widows whose brains are Chadsick with dopamine hits from making themselves believe he would commit after busting, while bloops scold men for not wanting to accept his wreckage as wife material. Sounds like a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:23 AM
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Luckily he has some dignity and wouldn't :) Sure. This is what every woman tells herself. Right along with "My brother / father / husband / etc would NEVER watch porn!1!" Apparently "having dignity" is telling a man to just accept he'll have to settle for an overweight, combative American woman and never know what sexual abundance feels like. An existence reserved only for western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:20 AM
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Honestly, I could see how both scenarios are depressing. Being the mark leading with his wallet, and being the desperate relatively attractive guy fucking a fat chick. They both suck. The point of the OP is that, it could be therapeutic for guys to be in a place where the value proposition is flipped in the sexual market, even if that value is based on money, because at the end of the day, men in the west are judged just as much as "objects" as they would be in a place like SEA.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:19 AM
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Either grow a thicker skin, or give it up. Lol what does this even mean? Women's advice to western men: Accept / get cucked by a fat, angry combative white woman or just accept a life of sexlessness while said fat angry combative white woman has casual sex with drunk hot guys all she wants. Women use their pussy to get what they want from desperate Chads, but men can't use their money? And again, nobody has made a single non REEE "muh morals!" argument here as to why a man wouldn't want to exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:16 AM
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You’ve heard the phase “when it looks too good to be true, it probably is” You mean like that 5'4, 175 solid "4" white American girl that gets to fuck beer goggles Chads every other weekend? Like that? Your surely not naive enough to believe Thai women just want to have sex with fat Americans and there’s not a threat of violence behind it if they don’t? No, it's more like, they are going for easy / fast money like most sex workers in the west do. Are you naive enough to believe that Chad just wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:14 AM
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Half-drunk Chad pumps and dumps an average fat white western woman for a quick nut, MEN SUCK!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:07 AM
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If you all want to leave so bad, go. Can y'all please PLEASE come up with one more original retort than this? The majority of American women don't want to date passport bros. Correct, because the majority of American women are delusional about their own value and only want to date top 10-20% Chad. How's that going for them? t is interesting that these men often record their adventures overseas and engage in the same behaviors with these women that they demonize American women for. First, men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:06 AM
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Do you know in Thailand They pull kids teeth out so the kid is better at given blow jobs and is less likely to hurt the clients Lol, yes, let's just jump straight to the most egregious and insane examples and lump everybody in the same basket. Basically, anybody who has set foot in a strip club is a pedophile. Very on-brand argument. Hey, do you want to know how your phone is made? Want to know what you're "being part of"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:00 AM
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Also you: "I DON"T CARE GOOO!!!"TeeHee
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:55 AM
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Yet you just have to throw in some passive aggressive snide nonsense like that huh? You sure sound like you don't care. You're screaming how much you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:53 AM
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Based and Happypilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:52 AM
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Bloops pretending that men and women have the same criteria for an "attractive" mate will never get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:50 AM
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I think a lot of whats put on western women is the worst of Instagram baddies and for men it’s Incel Andrew tate men - there’s shitty people on both sides but those who get that get it. Except only one side gets shit on by every mainstream source and it isn't women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:43 AM
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Saying this unironically in the face of the indisputable fact that women demand to be able to be "non traditional women" while still demanding the man do "traditional man" stuff and all that entails (despite their gaslighting lip service about 'emotional vulnerability'). Women want Don Draper while they act like Gloria Steinem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:42 AM
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You left out the part where they uphold their part of the deal by being, you know, women. You think western women do that? LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:40 AM
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What you left out is that basically all of these women are still a mile ahead of a western white woman, with the exception of some American born asian women, and even they are on average far superior due to the cultural influence of their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:39 AM
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Yeah, no. I've been married to a Japanese woman, and dated women from Korea and China. They are no doormats, but you'd better fucking believe they are 100x more agreeable, feminine, pleasant and willing to work as a team than entitled angry western women. The issue is that western women think anything other than being a "boss bitch" is being a door mat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:37 AM
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Again with the way you’re painting it you’re essentially bargain shopping but for a wife, Do you not understand the difference between being a cooperative and agreeable partner and being a doormat? Because western women seem to think the only two options are "doormat" and "raging entitled bitch"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:35 AM
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A feminine, thin wife from a foreign country taking my money is still better than a fat, bitchy western woman taking my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:33 AM
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It sounds like a massive hassle compared to just using a dating app in the US. LOL. Until you realize that an average man's experience on dating apps involves swiping endlessly for days or weeks to get a single date that flakes or ghosts you after you arrange and pay for the date. Versus, going to any country where you are seen as inherently high value or attractive and having women approach you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:31 AM
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don't have the motivation^ ability to make themselves attractive to western women FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:28 AM
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I can count on one hand the amount of women outside of family that I'd choose to spend time without sex being at least a possibility. Generally these women were incredibly funny, spontaneous and just had a contagious energy that felt good to be around. None of the 'spoiled' nonsense. None of the "joke policing" etc. I've known about 3-4 of these women in my several decades on earth, and while rare, they do exist. I should say, that some of these women, due to their charismatic nature ended up he…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:01 AM
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Lol, yes they do, for the "catty gossip" side of things, but you'd better believe that gay men loathe lots of shit about women (women's cringey attempts at humor, their inability to take accountability, their prudishness, etc) Gay men are still men Anybody who has ever hung with gay dudes knows this for a fact. Women are basically an accessory half the time with gay dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:56 AM
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He's fucking pro's on the side. Guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:54 AM
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try some college educated ones who are not up each night boozing and partying Yes, they are about as sexy as a dial tone. Usually their conversation is dry as a bone with zero wit or passion. Next. try some women with goals and passion Yes, I'm very interested in her gender studies degree and her thoughts on patriarchy. Sounds riveting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:53 AM
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how do you know "women" are "not interesting" How do you not understand that people, by and large, rise to the level of what life demands of them? What does life demand of men? Be fit, masculine, confident, funny, charming, assertive, charismatic, handle countless rejections without becoming insecure, etc etc. Things that take massive, time consuming and constant effort and trial and error. What does life demand of women? Don't be fat. Which, despite only having one "must" on their list, most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:49 AM
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Yeah, they tend to develop them independently of that because they are people. That's not how it works. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that. For example a woman being "funny" is not remotely necessary for her to attract a mate, thus the dearth of truly funny women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:45 AM
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Men are only interesting because they're trying to court women? In a round about way, yes. Men have to develop these skills in order to satisfy their primary biological function, attracting a mate, because the vast majority of men can't do this with their mere physical desirability the way a woman can. Why do heterosexual men bother socializing with other men if there's no sexual motivation? Because men are interesting, funny, innovative, and cool at about 10 times the rate women are. Are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:43 AM
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The difference is women's plausible deniability which is paramount as always. "I'm with him because I care about him" is far easier to believe when there's no "direct deposit" involved, even though it amounts to precisely the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:28 AM
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Exactly. The subtle implication here is that a man cheats because he's a dog and a horrible person, while a woman cheats because she's "emotionally neglected" or some such horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:26 AM
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Lol only somebody without a dick could say some shit like this. But, as always, women's solipsism is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:24 AM
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Men peak at 21 to 25. men past the age of say, 32? are old This is some next level delusional white knight fan fiction. Although in reality, it's probably written by a LARPing woman who thinks that claiming men's mate value works the same as women is some kind of great dunk on RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:31 PM
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I’ve heard so many guys say they don’t agree with the Hollywood style beauty and also disliking things like makeup and so on. No, you've heard guys try to virtue signal to you (a girl) to seem not shallow or guys try to act like they are 'above' a certain woman regardless of her SMV. Rest assured, any of those guys would happily fuck or date those women if they gave them the time of day. There’s even the whole pointy elbow meme where one tiny thing about a woman ruins her completely for some men…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:57 AM
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The avg woman is 5'4 170 lbs in the US. This can't be true. Please tell me this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:52 AM
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For every woman who hooks up with a guy there is a guy who hooked up with a woman. This math fail again. The distribution of the 10 travel-ho's isn't 1-to-1 with 10 rich guys. It's 10 travel-ho's to 2 or 3 rich guys who run through all of them as a hobby. Most of us played the field when younger. Sure. The nerdy autistic guys who "play the field". See 'em every day I tell you (well, on PPD anyway) We just treat women with respect Ahh the Bloop classics. They never get old do they? I hope we can …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:49 AM
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Based and Novelpilled. Damn, son. 👏 Could be titled "Sisterhood of the Traveling Dubai Portapotty"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:34 AM
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in decent shape/not terrible looking, not destitute but far from wealthy/stable, short, and bald. The dude is a Tinder God Press X to doubt. X
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:26 AM
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Like I said it’s disgusting and those women should be socially “cancelled” and it’s a damn shame that they were not along with the audience. Disfigurement and mutilation is a crime and not to be joked about. You do understand this isn't an isolated incident right? There are tons of examples like this, and then you can google for the 'domestic violence in public' experiments where the man even grabbing a woman is met with a crowd of people coming to the rescue, but a woman going ape shit, hitting…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:37 AM
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Oh you mean like PPD men do literally every time the topic of domestic violence against women comes up? Men offer, women choose. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:28 AM
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If a man was following your mother or sister around and she told him to leave her alone but he persisted, what would you tell her to if he is continues to become a threat in her space? Lol, so now he's "following her around"? Do you have any other embellishments to add to the story? If a gay man, taller and stronger than you approached you and sat beside you, asked you out and you said you’re not interested but continued to linger around you and come on stronger, what would you do? If he was big…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:27 AM
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Doesn’t mean it’s common for women to behave that way - or men. Most men and women do not physically assault other people. But it DOES mean that because it's laughed off by men and often not just laughed off but celebrated by women. Thus, it's far more commonly excused. If a man hits a woman, he's going to fucking jail. If a woman attacks a man, the man is expected to suck it up, and women propagate this paradigm more than anyone (ie he made her do it!) etc I agree that too many women use their …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:18 AM
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