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Ideally I’d like someone to balance out that quality but I get that might be asking too much 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:35 PM
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I actually feel like first dates are fine for me because i know how to navigate one-on-one, especially from apps because I’m not super invested as they are still a stranger. I’m just terrible at mingling so trying to meet people at events or activities is really hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:34 PM
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I hate dating apps but I’m too socially awkward to find someone in person
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:20 PM
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Which part is suspicious? I don’t like being looked at either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:20 PM
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The word radical is literally in the name
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:46 PM
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I wish I knew how to have more control over my romantic life. I don’t know how to affect how people see me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:42 PM
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Then maybe don’t tell people what you think Feminism 101 is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:57 PM
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Maybe you should take a gender studies class
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:10 PM
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No and I think it’s odd men think of it that wya
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:16 PM
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I just feel frustrated that it didn’t work out, but I’ve experienced men getting like irate about their time being wasted. Is it really such a chore?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:53 PM
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It reads to me like someone said “Be logical. Women could never beat men in a gender war.” The fact that you won’t answer the question is telling. Not to mention in real life there are millions of missing women for that reason. As far as I know these women were banned from Reddit 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:38 PM
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What are they responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:27 PM
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Not really, just curious. Looks like they’re responding to a question. I guess a strictly theoretical discussion of how women could beat men in a literal gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:15 PM
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What’s the context of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:46 PM
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Progressives hated GOT?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:38 PM
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I think most people agree dating is harder for short men but don’t agree with the blackpill “if you’re short you have no chance at all” stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:37 PM
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How is attacking your wife comparable to being attacked by your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:35 PM
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I don’t find having a date or convo on an app that doesn’t lead anywhere as a waste of time. I don’t understand people who get so angry at this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:16 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s exactly the same but yeah it doesn’t really mean anything until something happens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:54 AM
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I agree, it’s so boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:53 AM
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Are men actually excited about their online dating matches? Or just excited to have a match?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:33 AM
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Does sending a nude count as a body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:32 AM
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What other groups? I didn’t know that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:36 PM
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I always thought this was the strangest and most random thing when I was religious, along with the pillar of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:36 PM
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It makes my skin unbearably dry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:31 PM
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Context??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:31 PM
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There are lots of romcoms where women pine after a man who isn’t interested and it’s portrayed as sort of pathetic. 27 Dresses is the one I can think of off the top of my head. I agree there’s still I gendered expectation for men to take more initiative and for women to be passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:12 PM
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I thought she knew he liked her but was trying to initiate a conversation to let him down so he could move on and start thinking about Sarah, since she knew she’s interested. I don’t think it’s clear she likes him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:04 PM
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I’ve pretty much only seen age gap comments about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:43 PM
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Obviously it’s not the only way to create a bond. What you’re saying is that it “creates” a different kind of bond which is the same as the religious teaching the other person was referencing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:01 PM
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I don’t get how your comment is different from what they said. The idea is that having sex creates a permanent emotional/spiritual bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:48 PM
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I grew up with the concept of “soul ties” and never thought about pair bonding as different verbiage for the same idea but you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:46 PM
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I think this statement is by guys who have been affirmed in other traits and heard “you’re such a nice guy” or “you’re funny” a lot but have a need to be validated in also being sexy and attractive. But the insecurity is so deep they need it to be really obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:40 PM
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You are just wording it oddly. “not disclosing the fact that you had a kid from someone other than your husband knowing full well that’s not the case” Most cases the woman doesn’t “know full well” it’s NOT her husband’s. If she knew full well it’s not the husband’s, then he would know too because they haven’t been sleeping together. She is sleeping with her husband and having an affair, gets pregnant, and there is a chance it is the husband’s. You are arguing that not disclosing the POSSIBILITY …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:35 PM
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There is no such thing as used up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:17 PM
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5’9”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:35 PM
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It’s just awkward. I don’t like the added pressure of “who was that” gossip later
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:25 PM
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They are a lunch food
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:16 PM
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I came here ironically for entertainment but eventually realized reading all that was definitely still affecting me and had to take a step back
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:27 PM
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from some reason to them it is considered "gay" or "sissy" or generally too indecent to wear such clothes. why is that? don't we have gender equality? Men doing anything vaguely feminine has a bad connotation because masculinity is valued above femininity. So, no, we very obviously do not have gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:02 PM
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I don’t think you know what autism is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:14 PM
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Not only am I not dating, I am sitting online reading about other people not dating 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:18 PM
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I wonder if there’s some of an age gap going on. Maybe women who are older were approached a lot and women in younger generations didn’t experience that and have a better view of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:33 PM
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It would be a turnoff. Homophobia and possibly rape (?) as a joke. In general the implication that being penetrated is humiliating and/or painful doesn’t make me eager to have sex with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:30 PM
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Seriously. I hate when men cockblock themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:07 PM
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What’s blocked out? This makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:05 PM
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They are “more likely” to, doesn’t mean 100% do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:55 PM
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Why do men find the idea of a woman doing something sexual they don’t really want to appealing? That sounds so nasty to me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:34 AM
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whoever initiated the date would pick up the tab That’s usually the man so it turns out the same way 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:26 PM
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I mean no, because if someone responded “I don’t mind cooking and cleaning as long as he is the provider” that makes sense. That’s just traditional gender roles. But if they said “no if the man does equivalent behaviors” and I asked what the equivalent behaviors are, then I’d simply expect them to explain what those are. Is it just continuing those gender norms into a long term relationship? What about a context where we go on 1-3 dates? I’m not trying to argue, I’m trying to be a respectful dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:25 PM
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I also don’t think paying for your own date to avoid the pressure of sex is “reassurance and good faith” so I’m not even sure why you brought up an irrelevant topic you don’t want to discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:54 PM
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I have no idea. That’s what I was trying to ask. They said they don’t mind paying, they just mind doing so “without equivalent behaviors.” I don’t know what that means. At the very least it’s fair to split if the woman isn’t at least engaged in the date conversation-wise and looking appropriate for the venue. Personally I think it’s fair to split it either way but I was trying to figure out what the “hypocrisy” comment was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:51 PM
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Well those things are happening at completely different stages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:47 PM
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Yeah if anything I prefer to split so there’s no expectation of sex because he got the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:26 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:52 PM
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Do men feel like they don’t know their bodies and/or feel uncomfortable talking about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:22 PM
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No, it depends on the owner. They can be incredibly sweet and are very cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:45 PM
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I don’t mind being downvoted if it’s more “controversial” but some just leave me scratching my head. Like …why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:45 PM
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I guess that’s fair but if she’s dressing up for a date it is putting effort into the event. I really don’t know what other behaviors she could do on a first date besides being fully engaged in the conversation. I really was just asking a genuine question about what men want/expect out from women on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:30 PM
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I’ll be honest I couldn’t afford to date if I was expected to pay all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:22 PM
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Different people attribute different meanings to the payment issue. It might not be “the ick” but some people assume the man splitting the bill means he isn’t interested or the woman splitting the bill means she isn’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:21 PM
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I think the post was deleted. I’m not sure I understand the example. You just mean thoughtful gifts? I think relationships work best if you are both trying to woo each other, not just the man chasing after the woman. Is that what you’re saying? I was thinking more like a 1st-3rd date. If the man pays for me, what behavior/action matches that? I think a lot of women see it as getting ready, putting effort into appearance, etc. which I don’t think men find equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:16 PM
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What’s the explanation exactly? Libido change with aging? I think that can be part of it as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:51 PM
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I think they just disagree on the cause. RP think it’s hypergamy/women settling for men they aren’t attracted to and BP generally think it’s low effort from the man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:38 PM
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Usually they do now yeah. Tinder used to not have it and I finally put it in my bio after getting “oh shit you’re tall” every time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:35 PM
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What behavior/actions would you think match that expectation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:31 PM
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The montage sprinkled throughout with the (real?) older couples talking about their relationships is one of the sweetest and most romantic things in any movie imo. I love it. TBH I don’t remember as much about the romance between Harry and Sally but the line about wanting the rest of your life to start as soon as possible was really cute and romantic too. Plus the iconic sweater
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:46 AM
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I’m a 5’11” woman and I also “warn” people of my height if we’re meeting from an app. Otherwise it is awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:36 AM
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It’s one of the best romcoms of all time and honestly just a great movie even for people who don’t like romcoms. What are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:24 AM
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Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:23 AM
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I agree with you but it seems like a lot of people’s (men’s) criticism is her “leading him on.” The comment I was responding to said “her whole life” so I said that. My point was more that it would be seen as clearly predatory in a gender flipped scenario. I’ve always found the “leading him on” and hate for Jenny so gross and absurd because of the reasons you listed and because she gets abused the entire film yet the take away is that she’s bad for not wanting to date Forrest??? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:22 AM
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It’s more that it comes off as seeing the women as interchangeable. Once you’ve asked out more than one it comes off as desperate and like you just want “a girlfriend” rather than actually liking that woman as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:35 AM
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What a ridiculous and nonsensical double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:44 AM
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Good for her! I would love more people to be open about it and not feel rushed into sex and/or relationship/marriage. I rushed because I felt behind and regret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:24 PM
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I need to stop dressing like I’ve given up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:16 PM
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It works the way a lot of things do online, just get misused and applied willy nilly until they are meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:41 PM
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But most media would pass the innie/outie test, it needs to be the opposite way Most media would pass both those tests actually Of course it’s “not real” it’s simply a mechanism for examining gender in media. The reason it caught on is because it’s so simple and yet strikingly hard to find things that “pass” it. But even Alison Bechdel has said she didn’t mean for it to be used the way it’s used a lot of times
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:22 PM
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Yeah that’s Reddit and the internet in general nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:25 PM
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Ohhh. I don’t mind that because it’s talking about the attitude not the state of not having sex. I know guys who are “involuntarily celibate” who are in no way incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:07 PM
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calling other incest What? I think RP and men do this as well but yes I disagree with this no matter who is doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:46 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:41 PM
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No one would be talking about him “leading her on” or “the friendzone” if the genders were swapped
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:50 PM
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That was my first thought. Absolutely not. But a lot of the criticism around Jenny is around how she “led him on.” If a man was hanging around an intellectually disabled woman her whole life, it would automatically be seen as predatory. There’s a lot of valid criticism for Jenny around the predatory nature of sleeping with a disabled man, but I see so much more talk around how she “led him on” and “rejected him,” which is absurd. Also there’s a lot of criticism around her more “promiscuous” beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:33 PM
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That’s true there’s experiences that make you feel like “less of a woman”. But I don’t think there’s as much of a general feeling you can lose your femininity or that that means as much. We never say “that’s not a woman, that’s a girl!” for example, or you don’t “lose your woman card” by ordering beer instead of a fruity drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:27 PM
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Can violent and abusive men have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:57 AM
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I don’t think she is? lol she literally asked why he even bothered matching. She clearly doesn’t want to talk to him anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:45 AM
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He matched with her by responding to her prompt. Then decided to respond again. Just keeping options open? I think we can all see he’s not interested lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:25 AM
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Why did he match then? Maybe I’m autistic but most people talk like this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:17 AM
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Scorpios are known for being crazy/psychotic/conniving It’s sort of like Slytherin in Harry Potter
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:47 PM
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That’s insane. I find that extremely creepy. It’s like Clippy popping up “it looks like you’re trying to send a nude”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:34 PM
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I know multiple flat earthers. It’s concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:23 PM
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As a girl it’s also depressing to read. WTF are we doing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:22 PM
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Tbh we had a lot of chemistry while chatting and it really wasn’t there physically when I got back. I didn't remember there being much of a height difference either cause we were sitting most of the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:21 PM
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Yes this is the kind of gender dynamics I find really interesting. I think men have a lot of pressure of living within certain parameters of masculinity that, while women have other issues, don’t apply to women in the same way. I wish there was a more thoughtful sub to discuss gender instead of the silly pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:15 PM
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Wow that’s embarrassing for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:13 PM
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Yes that’s super accurate. “Emasculating” is basically “feminizing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:11 PM
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It was more of a situationship but long story short we met online, went on one date, I left for an extended trip that he’d done previously and we bonded over that. When I got back and we met in person he was like “I forgot how tall you are!” And slowly stopped calling 😅 We were out one time and I was like on the taller side of where the curb slopes down at the crosswalk and that’s when he said “this is emasculating” and made us switch 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:01 PM
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Yes But if you’re like “I don’t like my sign” they will immediately be like “oh, Scorpio.” Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:59 PM
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A guy left me because it was “emasculating” that I was taller than him 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:55 PM
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Well I am a woman so I do not haha We mostly have the reputation for being freaky/crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:53 PM
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I hate being a Scorpio
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:49 PM
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This is a really great question. I don’t think there is an equivalent for women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:47 PM
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emasculation isn’t really possible in a one-on-one setting I’m not sure that’s true. I think a man being told an ex was bigger or better in bed would be considered emasculating even in a private setting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:46 PM
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I can see that. I also think it’s a way of being like “please try to enjoy your life instead of insisting on being miserable about being single.” I used to leave every event disappointed that I didn’t meet someone. Focusing less on that didn’t help me meet someone but it did help me enjoy my life more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:42 PM
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Ex: if this happened to me I’d just be like “oh thank you!” And leave 🤦‍♀️ https://np.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/comments/1ub3zjr/woman_who_i_cold_approached_in_a_department_store/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:23 PM
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This is what the word manspreading was coined for. Disregarding everything else, he is rude af for getting in the other dude’s space
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:22 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/datingoverforty/comments/1u7j4hr/i_think_telling_women_youll_find_love_when_you/ I hate this stupid platitude. I know men here think women can be passive and they definitely can be A LOT more passive than men. But even women can be too passive and lose romantic opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:01 PM
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And why are they imprisoned for it? Because bigots find it disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:52 PM
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or a different identification that’s what brides wear! …yes, dude those are the same thing. Idk why you are so fixated with making women wear some kind of scarlet letter so the public can be involved with their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:22 PM
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No, it’s not. It’s a direct reason why women are disgusted by the suggestion of sexual activity because it’s implied they are disgusting for liking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:16 PM
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It has evolved as no one thinks it means she is a virgin. The whole tradition really cheapens the wedding ceremony imo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:51 PM
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And it’s evolved into identification of the bride and what makes a dress bridal vs a gown Not everyone wants their wedding to revolve around sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:44 PM
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But there is a unique approach to how people think about sexuality as if it defines you forever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:41 PM
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What’s the difference between tradition and “monke behavior to copy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:40 PM
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Sex does not make you more or less valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:38 PM
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Just tradition. No one is worried about if the bride is a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:38 PM
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Well if people can see you then yes inappropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:55 PM
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Not sure what’s wrong with having sex on a hiking trail either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:45 PM
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That was oddly specific
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:41 PM
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The way men talk about sex a lot of times deep down they find male sexuality disgusting. Look at the way they talk about “sluts” or how women are “ruined” or “ran through” because of a penis. Or the way sucking a dick is seen as the ultimate humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:32 PM
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lol on the subreddit not on the hinge app
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:40 AM
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Depends on the place. I volunteer at the food bank and every other volunteer is a retiree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:43 AM
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Is inkwells a new slang or a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:41 AM
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The difference is women can share these stories and nearly every other woman will have a similar story. Of course they act like it’s the most common thing ever because it is. I don’t know any women who couldn’t share a story like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:43 PM
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Disclaimer: I do not believe this; I just know an antivaxxer. And I am pretty sure he’d say they’re not waiting, the plan is already in effect and working
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:22 PM
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Most of the antivaxxers also believe that “they” poison the food to keep us obese, slow, and unhealthy. It’s part of the same system
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:57 PM
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Well that wasn’t part of the original question. But either way it goes back to my original thought because I don’t know many fat single people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:18 PM
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The AI is not panicked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:09 PM
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I thought this was already explicitly one of the reasons for passport bros? Also, comparing nonwestern women to animals- yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:05 PM
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The older I get the more I realize I don’t really know what “the average person” is. It feels to me like every other woman I know has her shit together and is a “good woman”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:07 PM
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My college was like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:51 PM
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I hate it. It does make me feel old. But it is the formal way to address women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:42 PM
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kind of like the movie What movie? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:41 PM
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It 100% is. I know it’s stupid. Hopefully can afford therapy again soon and will keep it to myself until then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:06 PM
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It does help sometimes, or I have bloating after different foods etc. it’s better when I wake up. But either way I know I’m being ridiculous because I am actually thin. I can’t really address it with other women because I’ll just sound like an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:53 PM
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I think I’m developing some kind of body dysmorphia
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:39 PM
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Once I was out with friends and the other girl and I were complaining it was cold. Both guys gave her their jackets so she had two jackets and the rest of us just stood there in the cold lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:19 PM
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Oh that’s awesome! What other parts have you done? I did the whole thing a few years ago, but I was just lucky/dumb enough to have a job I could leave
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:47 PM
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Oh nice! That’s a great section! Hope you have a great time! FYI that would be a section hike, not a thru hike.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:39 PM
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The AT section?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:31 PM
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Yes. I see posts all the time where it’s like “she’s got another man on the line dude have some self respect.” They just wouldn’t say it that same way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:19 PM
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Which hike?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:09 PM
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That sounds like a horrible experience but why are you extrapolating that to all of dating being a “minefield”? A lot of women find penetration to be a chore because of lack of foreplay, not because of size. If you are experienced with that, size shouldn’t be a significant disadvantage in your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:40 AM
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Almost every comment is deleted for lack of sources, except for the one about a Ponzi scheme and one other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:34 AM
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Has never happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:12 AM
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Dude I’ve been trying to build muscle and keep saying it doesn’t show because I’m tall and everyone makes fun of me for it! It is harder!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:05 AM
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Women already hate you so you might as well become a rapist…? I don’t think you mean that but think through what you’re saying dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:03 AM
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Mine is the opposite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:01 AM
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Did you actually read the JSTOR article? It was really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:45 PM
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My family has a tradition where there is a party for the kids at 13. Both my brother and I had a party when we were 13 (in addition to a normal birthday party) where trusted adults in our lives came and encouraged us and gave us advice. There isn’t really any sort of “coming of age” celebration specific to girls in my culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:08 PM
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I have seen the movie and Bear is a piece of shit but I’ve thought the same thing about the discourse around the other girl liking him. It also implies that his actions would be ok if he didn’t have another option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:53 PM
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I’m a woman but I didn’t date till I was 27 and feel the same. I remember a friend being like “this is something the rest of us all figured out dating in high school.” You really have to hit the jackpot on the first go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:51 PM
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I think almost everyone is ok with celebrating someone’s death, it’s just a matter of how “bad” they have to be before that’s acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:46 PM
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Sugar for sure. I went on a cleanse once and didn't have any added sugar for 30 days. I had a bagel afterwards and it did taste like straight up cake. It was wild
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:36 AM
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Oh that’s true. I think in the US we use a lot of salt and sugar and the food seems more bland over there. I had a German roommate and she was like “your bread tastes like cake!” And I was like “your cake tastes like bread” love me some apple strudel though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:23 AM
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That’s funny. Besides Italy and France I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anyone rave about the food. There’s certain dishes I loved but not the cuisine overall. The big thing is as an American I’m so used to variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:17 AM
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I was more just commenting that was sort of an absurd assertion by the OP, not arguing with you. I’ll say this- I spent most of my 20’s in a femcel mindset and I don’t think people realize how demoralizing it is. I don’t like when people are just like “oh no you didn’t get your dick wet boo hoo” about men who struggle with dating. It’s not just that. It feels very dehumanizing and like you are missing on a quintessential human experience and there must be something really wrong with you. Every p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:08 AM
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Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:02 AM
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That’s definitely not true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:45 AM
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Oh “fed.” Got it 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:40 AM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:37 AM
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I’m not sure what this means tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:34 AM
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That is exactly why people find age gaps so creepy. How is he so close and yet doesn’t get it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:33 AM
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Dating apps have really changed since the last time I was single. Men are definitely fed up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:25 AM
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Omg I would kill for a döner
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:12 AM
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The food is dreadful but there’s definitely some parts of European life that seem better. Better work/life balance. It seems like it’s a lot easier to stay healthy and fit. I had like 80 year olds passing me up mountains
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:11 AM
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It’s a bit odd but pretty low risk
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:08 AM
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Yeah of course but that’s not really the point. I think this happens with both genders- people really like things to look effortless. Women like muscular men but dislike gymbros and obsessive food tracking. There’s some kind of aura around this “cool girl” who eats pizza and drinks beer but the expectation is that she is still thin. There’s definitely a genre of man who wants a very thin woman so he can feel big and powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:12 PM
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I was looking at this thread https://np.reddit.com/r/TopCharacterTropes/comments/1u61tbh/comment/orp85hq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button And it’s really striking to me how many men have found it really hot that I can eat a burger and a beer which I know is only because I am thin. I’ve never heard of”it’s so hot that she eats salads!” It’s not about health.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:29 PM
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I used the word thinness because that’s what I meant. Not being healthy and having a healthy lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:46 PM
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Some men’s obsession with thinness grosses me out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:32 PM
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I get what you’re saying but most things in life don’t reward “goodness.” A lot of the most successful people are “bad.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:25 PM
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I definitely think there is a huge difference but I have never had a point in my life where 5 men are hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:56 PM
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I also love arguing but I think you’re confused if you’re baiting people into arguments and saying “it’s not bait, it’s just that I love arguing” haha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:07 PM
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I cannot take oofy doofy seriously. If that is a part of your lexicon you need to log off and take a long walk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:05 PM
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I’ve done this, although I probably wouldn’t say it that way. More like a “why not, may as well give it a shot. Worst case it’s good practice.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:03 PM
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Isn’t that exactly what bait is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:59 PM
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Yes and it gets worse every year
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:55 PM
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I feel the same way. Kinda baffled how quickly other people get in and out of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:13 PM
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Do you mean it’s not applied to men who have sex while drunk or it’s not applied to other actions after drinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:08 AM
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Why did they choose to do a UFC White House fight
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:59 AM
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Damn. Inflation is hitting the height standard too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:58 AM
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I’d say in between. (5’10 for 🇺🇸🦅 )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:11 AM
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I’ll admit I’ve been that woman. A lot of it was sunk cost fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:54 PM
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Stick figure come to life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:44 PM
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What is going on with you two 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:32 PM
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Put extra olive oil in all your food and heavy cream in your coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:27 PM
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I think it’s that they complain about women doing this but admit that they would do it if they were women. Women would probably also complain about it if they were flipped so 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:52 PM
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I would be absolute garbage at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:19 PM
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This is 100% why I’m single and not “high standards.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:55 PM
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A just sounds codependent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:46 PM
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Are you saying that women use only sex to attract attractive men and expect that to lead to a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:31 PM
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Yes I agree that’s also a ridiculous and stupid assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:15 AM
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Yeah I have never understood this stereotype. All the women I know are constantly trying to untrain themselves from saying “sorry” constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:14 AM
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I’m confused because what you’re saying is just red pill ideology. They are well aware the “rules” don’t apply to certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:13 AM
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I’ve heard feminists discuss this, although I agree it usually isn’t related to themselves but connected to internalized misogyny and conservative women. The intent of the term “toxic masculinity” is to separate harmful qualities from good masculine qualities, not to mock men. But unfortunately like many internet buzzwords it’s been widely over applied by unintelligent people to mock men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:11 AM
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I agree it’s just become a buzzword but I don’t think it has to cause harm to men specifically. I think it just has to be harmful, to themselves or others. I’d say that the idea a man has to sleep with lots of women to be a man is toxic masculinity, even though it could even benefit himself. The same idea is harmful for other men who may feel “less than” because of sexual inexperience. In the example you gave, I’d say that’s toxic masculinity imposed by the partner/traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:31 PM
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I am a woman, so none of that applies. My point was that they think of it as a “if she’s slept with ‘Chad’ in 6 hours, and doesn’t sleep with me in 6 hours, then she’s not attracted to me.” But for me there are a lot of factors that go into sleeping with someone, not just physical attraction. Maybe it’s a rebound thing. Sex isn’t a “reward” for men acting a particular way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:50 PM
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I know some shitty women, but that statement is just nuts and nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:38 PM
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Where do yall find these insane women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:33 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/okbuddycinephile/comments/1u4mbjy/comment/ordyeb1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button His fans had this idea he was like this artsy intellectual that would date an artsy unconventionally attractive woman and then had a meltdown when he started dating Kylie since she is pretty much the opposite of that. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:29 PM
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding your comment, but isn’t toxic masculinity about not expressing emotions or having to do everything without help? Those are some of the top qualities of toxic masculinity. Or are those the qualities you see as in service of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:20 PM
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I feel like quirky women being upset that Timothee Chalomet is dating Kylie Jenner is the equivalent to men who complain “women only want Chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:55 PM
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Sex education and family failed you. Shouldn’t have brought women into it, that’s absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:29 PM
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There’s nothing sexual about BJJ
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:06 PM
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What could possibly be the context 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:01 PM
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I’ve noticed this everywhere. Blatant racism and sexism being accepted mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:58 PM
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Omg… Taco Bell 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:04 PM
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I absolutely cannot fathom doing that. I do usually expect the man to pay for the date just because they usually do, and I always offer to split. But the thought of messaging a guy on an app asking for money is bonkers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:00 PM
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In a cemetery/gazebo or in a car outside LAX
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:53 PM
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The valedictorian is possibly one of the worst students to choose to make a speech. Weird tradition. I was so glad I wasn’t valedictorian so I didn’t have to make a speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:52 PM
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I think a lot is dependent on circumstances and individual chemistry rather than one person’s experience I also don’t know most men’s experience level so it’s hard to say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:44 PM
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Yup, no one is nicer than a douchebag who hasn’t fucked you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:32 PM
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I’m a woman and have been rejected for not having a good job. I’m sure less than men would experience but it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:14 PM
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Women try to hard to be nice and end up being unkind, fake, or passive to bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:08 PM
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Is your list extremely specific or you just have chemistry with everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:09 PM
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But at what point do you decide if there is chemistry there or you are just dating for utility?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:52 PM
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That’s exactly what happens to me. It’s not instant so I keep swiping out of boredom. Once people answer it’s too much and I’m overwhelmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:13 PM
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Yeah I think a list is meant to be more of a logical protection against reacting purely with feelings toward someone who is objectively a bad choice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:09 PM
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I don’t even think a list is bad per se, but I want to fall in love, not check off a list
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:00 PM
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For all the comments about women not liking men or women having a checklist rather than actually liking men, it seems like RP men are the ones that actually feel that way about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:25 PM
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I don’t think so. That doesn’t sound totally “involuntary.” Besides nowadays people use incel to mean more the attitude than sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:17 PM
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It sounds like he did realize that, that’s what prompted a “final talk”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:00 AM
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I am a woman so that’s made it even more noticeable. But both, I realized I really struggle to read signals someone is interested and unintentionally shut him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:59 AM
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I’m not diagnosed but have wondered particularly because of my struggles in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:30 AM
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The Matrix and X-Men were also mega popular at that time, I don’t think there’s really been a shift out of traditional masculinity. Some of the heartthrob celebrities are less traditionally masculine now but any of the Avengers are traditional imo and there have always been more androgynous type sex symbols for women. There’s been a bit of a shift with discussions are “toxic masculinity” but there’s still stuff like John Wick who are very masculine but just shift away from the idea that masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:28 AM
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You seem incredibly fixated on a niche issue
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:55 PM
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I get both femcel and incel stuff. I got recommended trueuglywomen and was like ok, rude…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:52 PM
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I think this is so cute 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:48 PM
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I think movies are generally a bad first date. You don’t get to talk to each other and it’s risky that the movie is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:47 PM
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I think FWB would count as casual sex though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:08 PM
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Related note, I also find it odd to assume the most attractive men have the biggest dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:35 PM
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I also think it’s probably often a better experience for men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:05 PM
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I think there’s probably some truth that you will always look back fondly on youth/no responsibilities and sex that doesn’t get clouded at all with other worries in a relationship. But I think the same applies to any kind of new relationship energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:04 PM
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I don’t understand the assumption that casual sex must have been the best sex of your life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:40 PM
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How is women and men who want to have sex with each other having sex with each other abusing anything? And I’m not sure why you think sleeping with “inappropriate men” means a woman can’t be happy in a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:31 PM
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Why does this always get blamed on the women and not on the “big dick studs”? Not to mention not every woman does that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:53 PM
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You can talk about lots of things without supporting it, why wouldn’t you be able to? I find this happens online a lot but you can explain a lot of people’s reasonings for things without agreeing with them. I made the comparison because there’s a lot of nasty people that people deserve to be scammed because they fell for it. It is a similar line of reasoning. It seems like you just want to rant about how women are nasty people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:33 PM
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It’s not a deflection; I don’t support her behavior. I think some women (falsely) see it as a tit-for-tat situation because men have treated them badly, or as a sort of Robin Hood type situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:40 PM
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I don’t think that’s how sex addiction works. It has to be a compulsive behavior despite negative results. Having a lot of sex in a relationship wouldn’t qualify, unless it was somehow two sex addicts in a relationship unable to keep a job because they can’t stop having sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:03 PM
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I’d guess a similar reason why some men think men who lie to get sex are cool
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:55 PM
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I’m in the same boat 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:50 PM
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I one time had my palm read, the person was shocked and said they’d never seen anything like it. I didn’t have any relationship line at all. It was right after a breakup and I was like… ok… thank you for that info. I don’t do things like that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:29 PM
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Depends on the stage of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:08 PM
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I often find legitimate criticisms of women do go hand-in-hand with misogyny. It’s like people are delighted they can finally use those insults because now it’s “justified.” There are a lot of women I don’t agree with or like but the amount of insults and frothing at the mouth while talking about them is fueled by misogyny, which takes away from the legitimate criticisms. There are women that I agree are bad that I still find some of the comments against them to be misogynistic, or the level of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:23 PM
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I don’t understand how that’s contradictory. To me, it makes sense that a female doctor would want to date a male doctor or someone who is similarly successful. It’s up to a male doctor to decide if he wants to date a woman he has to support financially or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:13 PM
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I guess I’m not sure how it’s in bad faith. You don’t do relationships, so I figured you are looking for hookups or casual fwb/situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:22 PM
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Why are you mad? Just meant what you said makes sense for your goals then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:14 AM
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Well then it makes sense you wouldn’t take time to court a woman. I imagine other men do it because they like that woman, and not just as a song and dance for access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:06 AM
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Is sex the only reason you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:49 AM
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I like people for their personality. Not sure why you wouldn’t think that’s possible. It makes me uncomfortable when men treat me that way as well, as if I checked the right boxes for them so they’re interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:33 AM
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Ah, that makes sense in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:27 AM
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I’ve seen tons of bears. I think most women say bear just cause it boils down to “I would rather just be killed than be raped and killed.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:18 AM
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That video is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:14 AM
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Strange thing to say on a date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:10 AM
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That’s also part of why they are hated, they fetishize and objectify non-western women. No one has any issues with expats moving somewhere because they enjoy the culture and falling in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:04 AM
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How does one become “sexually corrupted”? What a nasty concept
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:56 AM
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it really didn’t bother me. we are very different and would have never connected outside the specific context we met in, and I’m glad we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:42 AM
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Sure, I guess. I still think dating preferences are different than an entire sociopolitical structure in which women can’t survive without a man. To me it’s a huge leap in logic to think “when women couldn’t open bank accounts they got married more” means “women don’t care about men’s money at all now.” Also I think women in general will admit they want men who are financially stable and are at least on equal financial footing as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:59 AM
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It’s not really a marvelous quality but again not incongruous. I think anyone would prefer to have more money as a couple and/or an equal partner, what does that have to do with needing the money? Do men NEED an attractive partner? No. Would they still choose to date an attractive woman over an unattractive one?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:35 AM
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It seems like most men and women want this and understand that’s why the other gender wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:23 AM
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I have never thought about that lol. Probably why I am single
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:20 AM
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My ex said that to me haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:56 AM
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I love hiking but first dates should be in a public area.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:55 AM
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Most women wouldn’t hike on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:45 AM
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This is one reason I don’t approach men. I know I don’t want to have sex quickly but rejecting him being physical after initiating seems quite strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:43 AM
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What is incongruent about it? Women being financially forced into relationships is naturally going to lead to more relationships. That doesn’t really relate to any preferences they would have for a relationship they are choosing to enter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:37 AM
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I think he looks really good in his regular glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:27 AM
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It really depends on the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:22 AM
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Historically most marriages were transactional and most couples didn’t really like or love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:13 AM
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I’ve thought about that a lot as someone who was the right age to experience dating before and after OLD became huge. There are lots of men I had crushes on that I probably wouldn’t have had any feelings for after one date from an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:07 AM
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Tbh I grew up evangelical and that’s pretty much EXACTLY the paradigm they told us. It was really toxic for everyone because there was so much shaming of sexual feelings and then you were supposed to magically feel amazing about it after marriage. What was frightening is the way it set it up post marriage life as a nonstop fuckfest, which was centered around the men. There was never any discussion of consent or sexual self control after marriage. It was totally set up like “you have to be comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:26 PM
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What you’re essentially arguing is that violence (or at least threat of violence) is social policing and since women are excluded from threat of violence they are excluded from social policing. From there you have to either allow violence against women as well, which means that the biggest and strongest people are in charge of social policing, or take violence and threat of violence out of the equation for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:16 PM
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It’s not just about women, it’s why evil political leaders come into power or why evil people are successful in business or entertainment. It also doesn’t even help the thing you have an issue with. If I come out of a bad relationship and think, “well I am just stupid, there was nothing good about that guy!” I’m bound to repeat the same mistakes, whereas thinking “wow I really ignored these red flags because he was funny and charismatic is actually learning and growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:26 PM
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I do think women being sexual is seen as empowering in a way that it isn’t for men. I sort of agree with OP, except for the use of pejorative language like “sluts.” I also disagree that men aren’t praised for being sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:20 PM
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The question is if abusive men have good personalities, I think it’s pretty dumb and just blatantly untrue to just say no because they are abusers. I agree they obviously shouldn’t be glorified or have their positive traits emphasized repeatedly, but I don’t think we need to lie and act like we live in a binary world where hot, charismatic people are good and ugly, awkward people are bad. Acknowledging that charismatic people can be abusive is different from going “he’s abusive but he’s so hot.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:52 PM
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That’s really silly. Someone can be abusive and physically attractive, talented, or charismatic. It’s not like positive traits are doled out according to moral character, nor the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:31 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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