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[–]At30wecrashoutReality Pilled Man 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (9 children) | Copy Link

“You’re insecure for caring about N count!”

Okay? So what? Let’s concede that I’m insecure for caring. Okay, cool, I’m insecure. Everyone is insecure about something. I’m still entitled to my preference. I don’t think that calling someone insecure is some crazy gotcha.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb [score hidden] 1 week ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Ok now that we’ve identified the insecurity the question is: what to do about it?

[–]At30wecrashoutReality Pilled Man [score hidden] 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing.

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man [score hidden] 1 week ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No need to deal with unless u're out of options.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb [score hidden] 1 week ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Feels like you could up your count. Or come to terms with what it is you are insecure about

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man [score hidden] 1 week ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My count is pretty up and I've even fucked prostitutes so I'm not speaking from a "higher moral ground" but I did filter out women I was seeing casually based on their number and length of relationships.

I don't think it's an insecurity but I do have some visceral disgust at the thought of marrying a "whore". And since my late college years I had heard that women who view sex as a more intimate thing make better partners and it has alligned with my experiences.

I don't need to confront why I feel weird about this, I probably would need to if I had few options.

Also I've found my person.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb [score hidden] 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hold on, you didn’t want to marry a whore but you had no problems going to them and perpetuating the system?

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man [score hidden] 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's obviously hypocritical but my gf knows so who cares.

[–]winter_lover281 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Someone whose goal is to sleep with as many women as possible. I don’t even care if I enjoy the sex or not; as long as I know I’m desirable to a lot of women, that’s enough for me.

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -1 points0 points1 point 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s because we are men

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 1 point2 points3 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 week ago (5 children) | Copy Link

My final conclusion is that n count doesn't matter. What matters is if you can get over yourself to fall in love and build a relationship with someone you care deeply for.

You don't need the exact same number of experiences. You don't need to have the exact experience that another man had. You just need to be present and figure out if you even like the woman. If you want to spend time with her, hear about her wishes, and share yours and grow together.

Sex is great. Sex is important in relationships. The best sex occurs in relationships with trust, respect, and happiness.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 1 week ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

it does matter, if it is a factor for someone to not fall in love then it automatically matters if we re talking about conventional relationships, it shows your attitude about love, sex, etc

Now if neither party cares about conventional standards then go for it i guess, is not like all relationships need love to function anyways, i mean we can pretend that is 'love' but just because is functional doesnt means it is love.

I fail to see why of all the dating preferences that are there, many as shallow as they get, only n count is the one that gets people triggered

[–]Motosport_TitanBlue Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

>>What matters is if you can get over yourself to fall in love and build a relationship with someone you care deeply for.

Imagine telling people who have no problem falling in love but struggle because no one is falling in love with them this 💀

[–]Excellent_Badger123Purple Pill Woman 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of the men here only seem to want absolute and very specific equality in n counts and sexual experiences.

And I agree with your points about love, relationships and the best sex

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb [score hidden] 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of the number obsessed ones will chill out about it once they actually get laid and gain some perspective.

[–]Excellent_Badger1231 point 1 week ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A lot of the men here only seem to want absolute and very specific equality in n counts and sexual experiences

[–]SomerandomduderebornLvl 26 apprentice wizard 😎🪄, It is what it is pill 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, so close to reaching wizard status I can almost feel it 😁👉🧙‍♂️

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Do you count escorts in your tally??

[–]K4matayonJimmy you are always down 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why not

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

:/

[–]K4matayonJimmy you are always down 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you carry shame around your n count lie about it

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't need to, she knows it

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes.

Eta - I haven't been with an escort. But escorts do count.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Never been with an escort so, no.

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (16 children) | Copy Link

why is having a high n count a proof of succes for a guy again? havent you seen the absolute plain looking bottom of the barrel losers that rack up high counts nowadays? go to a very liberal place with little to no conservative influence and you ll see what im talking about.

[–]BrainMarshalPurple Pill Man: Men can sort the world out with Tang Ping 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women don't value men for having a high partner count but they damned sure as hell will weaponize a man's zero partner count against him.

[–]Zestyclose_Truth9999woman|20s|married 1 point2 points3 points 1 week ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a measure of success for some men. They view successful or "High Value Men" as men with sexual access to a lot of women, even if those women are fat/ugly/desperate/extremely drunk.

Off Reddit, most people would disagree.

I think women (and most people IRL) would view successful men as those with money, a lucrative career, fame, etc. Those men would also not be posting about their high n counts on Reddit.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 1 week ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think women (and most people IRL) would view successful men as those with money, a lucrative career, fame, etc.

Not if they are beta, passive, or boring. Then women don't care about this type of "success"

Women are like drug addicts, always looking for their next high

[–]Zestyclose_Truth9999woman|20s|married 1 point2 points3 points 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not if they are beta, passive, or boring. Then women don't care about this type of "success"

Man, someone needs to tell all those "beta, passive, or boring" rich guys that women don't care about them.

I'm sure NO women find money and status attractive... /s

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They dont care about them. They aren't sexually attracted to them. In fact most of those guys have to rely on hookers and sugar babies

[–]Hot_Lack_4868Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's how some old men here feel better about themselves 

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit in a nutshell

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[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Who says racking up a n count is proof of success?

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

lmao you re always belittling other men for having a low count, play leftoid now

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve never even asked a dude here what his count is. What would you say is low?

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mostly just want you to have a high N (10+ at least?) from sober people (no party or alcoholic environments allowed) without excessive socialization (6 hours or so) if you want to give advice for what women are attracted to

E.g. guys who say “women are attracted to assholes” probably haven’t tried to behave like an asshole to a woman more attractive than him on Tinder. Lots of women definitely want something along the lines of “just talk to her bro”

People with an n count of 3, or who only hit on tipsy women, or who have only slept with women they’ve known for at least a month, are all probably not familiar with what women are attracted to

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

depends on what you mean by "asshole", if you mean being a rude unpleasant mean person then no.

If you just mean not being a "yes" man who doesnt gives any woman special privileged treatment just for existing as a woman then thats a good start

but having a high n is more about the circles you hang out than about who you are or how you look.

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[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Its not. Having hot women on your arm is proof of success. Guys who can't achieve hot women use N-count as a consolation prize.

"I can't get hot bitches, but at least I got a lot of bitches".

Its comparing yourself to virgins, rather than the studs who pull the best women

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

even then i have seen some bottom of the barrel bagging a hot one for a night even if she later regrets it, so i dont think thats much proof neither

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats pretty rare unless she has some kind of fetish.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

bro, you would be surprised

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Piggy backing off the post about Clubbing, anyone have any fun/interesting/wild n count stories that might have occurred or started at the club?

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

On spring break we were in line at a club right in front and thru the door this one girl walking by looked over at us. When we got in that girl walked up to me while we were looking for a spot, got real close and said “heeey, wanna bj?”
And then took me by the hand to a darkened hallway. Afterwards she said “thanks, I wanted to prove to my girlfriends that I can be just as wild as them!” And I tried to ask her to come to our table but she spotted her friends and then I lost her in the crowd. I Spent half the night going “what just happened?? I love spring break!” And the other half look for her and her friend group so I could at least get her last name!

[–]Excellent_Tank5672 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

r/thatHappened 

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

cool don’t believe it . Spring break is chill and nothing crazy happens.

[–]Crime_DawgPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You ain't finding a private spot to do this in a crowded club, unless you're a 30s man.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was a darkened hall towards one of the exits that had a cubby space where what I think used to be pay phones were way back in the day. And I didn’t say “private” I said darkened hall.

[–]Excellent_Badger123Purple Pill Woman 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I was being pursued at da club by a drunk aggressive guy who refused to leave me alone. So I scanned the room and landed on the biggest toughest scariest looking guy in the place just hanging out in the edge of the dance floor and asked him to dance with me. He danced like a possessed demon and it 100% scared the other guy away

[–]Grow_peace_in_BedlamMarried Leftist Red-Purple Man, late 30s, DeCrowist 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Goth?

[–]Excellent_Badger123Purple Pill Woman 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

More like a hells angel biker gang aesthetic but he turned out not to be scary at all. He was a psychology professor at the local university. We became friendly and very complicated and long story short: he ended up becoming my first husband about a year or so later, my first divorce exactly a year after that

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats kind of cringe to get divorced a year after getting married. Like why even get married

[–]Excellent_Badger123Purple Pill Woman 3 points4 points5 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To get added to his health insurance that would cover an expensive surgery to save my kidney. There was an agreement in advance it would only be a for year. This was not a love match

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No since I had a bf it was just men hitting on me or throwing money at me when I was in the cage lol

[–]b_berry458Purple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What cage??

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The dance cage 😂

[–]b_berry458Purple Pill Woman 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m coming next time

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL 😂

[–]Internal_Writing5485 2 weeks ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Apparently black guys actually fuck girls IN THE CLUB all the time. In black clubs. Eye opening.

[–]PurplePillDebate-ModTeam[M] 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks agolocked comment (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]b_berry4582 points 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So guessing you never ‘hung out’ in a disabled bathroom

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well of course you didn’t notice when your eyes were closed!

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We used to play "ABC Game" and see how many men we could kiss in an evening. 🤣🤣🤣

Collect as many letters of the alphabet as possible.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Finally my name is paying off!” -Xander

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I entered a random few bars recently out of boredom. It was all mostly couples or single guys with few to no single women around. Maybe an urban bar would be better. I think if there are no people in sight making out, then a bar probably isn’t going to yield any hookups. 

In contrast, when I was looking for a snack at a shopping mall a woman working as a cashier tapped on the glass of her store to stop me and tell me she liked my hair. Environments like that sort of seem like they’d be better for cold approaching because of how you pass by 1,000 people in the course of a few minutes. I think single women are also more likely to be around and gazing at guys a bit, because it makes more sense for them to be there by themselves

[–]tin8374Man 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Whenever dating gets bought up in conversations among friends, I get really insecure and my flight mode activates. How do I navigate this?

Whenever dating gets bought up in conversations among friends, I get really insecure and my flight mode activates. How do I cope with this?

So I am 25M, virgin, never even kissed, have been on 0 dates and I have been meaning to talk about this

I have a lot of female friends that frequently ask"are you dating" or "Do you have a gf", I say no and they are always surprised. They either are like "I thought you had one" or "How tf are you single?" or some other statement of surprise. I have had this happen a bunch of times in my life now. I usually give a vague answer on purpose like "Oh I haven't found the right one" even though the real reason is that I think am ugly and I also have never asked out a woman nor do get activity on apps. Just recently I asked why it was surprising and she said "You just have such a good energy and vibe and I love that about you" like girl.. I get it but like that won't matter if I am ugly. Ofc i didn't tell her that but that went through in my head. I really just said yeah I get that alot, and then immediately change the subject.

None of my friends know I have never dated and I am a virgin. Whenever the convo shifts to dating, I try to not say anything and just excuse myself, because they start asking a lot of questions since they are so surprised never dated and want to know more.

How do I navigate this? I always have this insecurity in my head when meeting new people and even existing friends, I have kept my lack of dating life concealed from them, I hate concealing a part of myself but at the same time it brings me despair and it is upsetting for me to talk about due to the stigma around me being a 25 year old virgin

[–]K4matayonJimmy you are always down 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That sounds uncomfortable im sorry for that, have you considered maybe to see a therapist if only to discuss this?

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop having a complex about it. Use any way possible.

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Letting go of insecurities and only associating with people who accept you.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pay prostitute.

Or pay a photographer to get decent photos in your dating app (I am sure you have shit, boring photos) highlighting your lifestyle (fake as it may be), and start conversations with women who are clearly below you in looks, tell them what they want to hear (if theyre wanting to be slutty than pretend your confident, start texting about sex), if theyre looking for LTR than be the nice guy for a couple dates, plan out your dates and have a plan to bring her over to your house.

If a girl comes over to your house it means she wants to have sex if you don't turn her off.

You are being to pathetic about your life, you need to be more machievellian.

Being pathetic and waiting passively is what women do. As a man you have to act or you will get nothing.

But ya just go find a prostitute for $500, maybe go to a few.

[–]Motosport_TitanBlue Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Be secure with yourself. Your attitude towards the subject and question is what might be off putting to your friends not wether or not you are a virgin. No one is gonna pick on a person for being a virgin unless they suck.
“why don’t you have a gf?”
“Women aren’t lining up to go out with me, it is what it is “🤷‍♂️

[–]Ok_Medicine8560Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sure you're already putting your best foot forward, but I feel like the only way to really fix this issue is to try and get any sort of romantic experience, just so you have enough to talk about and so that you can start feeling more confident in yourself.

Like you said, talking about relationships and dating is just how a lot of people socialize, and if you don't have anything to contribute on this subject you will probably get judged for it.

I was in your boat as well (zero romantic experience) until I decided to send it on dating apps and go on a bunch of dates just to say "been there done that". If you can tell your friends about a few girls you've met before that should be enough to get most people off your butt on this topic.

[–]tin8374Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was on dating apps for 2 years, I would get 1-2 match per month at most and I never went on a single date.

I gave up on them

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So.... what's high???

[–]saraimarsenasuper slut for a super simp ♀ BTGGF 🖤 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

depends on age

but i’d overall say 15 or more

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Q4All: What would you think about popular dating apps introducing a new prompt/filter for this topic since it apparently matters to some people? "Body count" would be too crass of course but it could be named 'dating experience' on your profile and you could select 'Low' 'Medium' 'High'

[–]MuscletovMaroon pill man 6 points7 points8 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Such filters would offend women and dating apps cannot afford to offend women. Hence why height filters are much more common than weight or cup size filters.

[–]Sozzini_Servetus1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

doesnt the policy to immediately nuke "Men Kampf" style comments (a bit where guys were changing "Men" deranged misandrist social media posts to the names of enemies of Notsees ("Gypsy" or "Bolshevik", etc) inadvertantly reveal the bigotry of Bluepillism / feminism?

When Women talk about disliking Men, avoiding Men, because of crime stats, and someone comes back with 'yeah but do you avoid X racial group because of the same thing' it's nuked as prejudicial, doing harm to innocent people of said race(s), etc. show and confirm that feminists are prejudicial and doing harm to innocent Men?

I.E. by nuking it as hateful or bigoted it conceeds the point that feminists are hateful and bigoted? I think it really has potential to shatter the Feminists view of themselves so it has to be nuked

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dating experience could be misunderstood as dates not sex counts so idk man

[–]SprayAffectionate321Purple Pill Woman 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People would just lie, just like they lie about age and many other things, and unlike age and height, there's no way to verify a person's number of sexual partners.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t see why most people would enter it if it were optional. And if it weren’t most people would just use a different app.

The reason Tinder got so popular was because in the beginning there really wasn’t much restrictions. Upload pic, maybe a few sentences in bio, swipe away.

[–]Motosport_TitanBlue Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t understand dating experience as anything body count related.

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah one could select 'high' even if they have just been one long LTR. I'm just attempting to find a good proxy for n count that doesn't sound terribly weird. Not a native English speaker so if you have a better idea lmk

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What does “medium” or “high” even mean though? Seems like a useless question, I wouldn’t even know how to answer it. It makes more sense to just say what you want about your experience on your profile, or just organically talk about your past relationship experiences once you’re actually talking to someone.

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I concede it's vague but so are a lot of prompts on the apps like political stance is a lot more complex than just 'liberal' and 'conservative', it's just supposed to be a rough eyeball to gauge compatibility quickly

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But what if someone’s had very few partners, but has been in very long relationships? Being in long relationships can give you a lot of life experience, but other people might call that low experience.

At least with politics it’s more understood when you give yourself a label, because people love political labels. People should have the option to write a short little blurb about their politics if they want, like for example if someone wants to distinguish themselves as a leftist and not a liberal. The right crowd will know that those words mean very different things.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

much like the height filter that it already exists, the majority wouldnt be honest about it

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Realistically most people are just going to select Medium no matter their experience

[–]At30wecrashoutReality Pilled Man 8 points9 points10 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

“A man who wants to go dutch on date bills isn’t truly attracted to you. A man will go out of his way to pay for a woman whom he actually wants and is truly attracted to.“

“A woman who is truly attracted to you won’t make you wait and jump through hoops for sex. If she slept with Chad on the first night but makes you wait a few months, she’s more attracted to him than you.”

If one of these statements bothers you and the other one doesn’t, please explain why 🤔

[–]Zestyclose_Truth9999woman|20s|married 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Neither of them bothers me.

I fully support #1: if you're hot (or a guy actually fancies you), most guys will pay the full bill. It's also nice to reciprocate and treat him on the second date.

#2 is also true: if a woman tries to make a man "jump through hoops" for months, she doesn't like him. I was ready to fuck my now-husband on our first date, and I think it's perfectly normal to want sex within a few dates.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Neither of them bother me.

I'm not going Dutch on first dates. And I'm not waiting months for sex either.

The joys of doing what you want.

[–]Ainsleygzintrusive thot ♀ 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I used to split the bill and fuck on first date

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no! You broke the code!

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why guys like you btw 

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Neither are true in my experience and environment, but just because both appear to be equivalent in a vacuum, specific social norms could easily make one statement more true than the other.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

when the liberal woman with a casual sex past wont split the bill cuz she knows how a lady should be treated:

All this after giving you an extensive lecture about why caring about body count is an anticuated sexist standard that has no place in a "modern" society btw

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why do you want to date liberal women if you think that women's value depends on sex with men? Date conservative church girls? You're not doing any favors to women going on a date with them while simultaneously thinking they are not worth a dinner.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i am with a church girl atm but in the past i didnt filter people based on politics nor beliefs.

And your bad faith framing aside, i fail to see why is it unreseanoble to expect that a liberal woman who preaches being against gender roles and traditional expectations splits the bill as per her beliefs.....unless they dont care about gender equality but only about what serves them.....

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing more silly than some high n slag with a past of letting the biggest bottom of the barrel losers hit trying to mock a guy for having a low count, like bro, dont throw stones from a glass house, have some self awareness please 🤣🤣

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

i dunno why these dudes idealize high n men so much, when you realize that a lot of bottom of the barrel losers with nothing going on for them can still rack up high counts then it loses all this meaning of "guy who achieved the milestones of a conventional society"

you ll be surprised of the amount of fat slobs and bald short porn addicts roaming around with massive counts yet you really wouldnt want to trade places with them, my point is that they dont even look like this giga chad they idealize so much

maybe you all live in societies where traditional masculinity standards are still somewhat expected, but go to a place like seattle and you ll stop wanting a high n real quick

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nobody cares about "milestones of a conventional society." They care about who gets what they want.

  you ll be surprised of the amount of fat slobs and bald short porn addicts roaming around with massive counts yet you really wouldnt want to trade places with them

Why not? You might be forgetting that a lot of guys are also fat sloppy bald short gooners but on top of that do not get laid.

  my point is that they dont even look like this giga chad they idealize so much

We don't give a shit about the looks beyond how much it gets the guy laid.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

then go for other bottom of the barrel losers then? i fail to see whats the issue, the only reason why those fa bald gooners struggle is because they try to go for conventional women instead of other bottom of the barrel. If you think some DND cuck with horrible social skills is a winner just because he gets to bang a lot of landwhales with mental issues then more power to you i guess but i fail to see why are they torturing themselves so much.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Modern girls are definitely super gross in who they often choose as sexual partners. Many many women have OUT THERE weirdo preferences.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (117 children) | Copy Link

im not a secular so i dont have a horse in this race, but i find it curious how these progressives push for a loose attitude about sex, and prude shame people who view sex as this huge, relationship-defining act that you shouldnt have loosely and not with just anyone

Yet when a man openly prioritizes sex in the modern way they defend, they immediately reduce him to someone who 'only thinks about sex.' It seems very contradictory to champion sex-positivity while shaming the very people who align with your views.

Seems this is more about what serves them rather than what they actually stand for🤔

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (112 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, it feels like an overcorrection.

Instead of “ok everyone can be more open and honest about their desires, from traditional old fashioned to wild. Which means i can find what social group aligns with my values and can be open while still being respectful to others”

Some people went “ok!! This means I get to act as degenerate as I want to anyone and it’s ok. What?! I still have to be likable yo be fuckable?!”

[–]JamesCruse 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (37 children) | Copy Link

Lol based on what sources? "Trust me bro" anecdotes?

Dude what? Lol

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (36 children) | Copy Link

Still following me? Coo

[–]JamesCruse 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, just checking all your terrible advice and laughing.

Mate, surely you don't think your own seduction coaching is good? 😆

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (34 children) | Copy Link

What was the advice here?

[–]JamesCruse 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (33 children) | Copy Link

Your non-opinion that you yourself don't even respect and tell people not to listen to😆

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (32 children) | Copy Link

So, no advice.

Apology accepted

[–]JamesCruse 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (31 children) | Copy Link

You: Giving my opinion of what to do is different to advice bro. Trust me bro please bro

Me: so you'rr trying to give advice ans opinions when you don't respect your own opinions lol

Dunked

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (30 children) | Copy Link

Oh you might need this

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (29 children) | Copy Link

Lol keep it up - I'll keep coming for ya.

Making sure literally none of your ego is sated here lol

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (28 children) | Copy Link

You’ll keep comming?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (27 children) | Copy Link

Lol I'll just keep destroying your ego advice that you're desperately trying to get people to listen to until you're banned

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (26 children) | Copy Link

Why would I get banned?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (25 children) | Copy Link

We all know why 👎😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (24 children) | Copy Link

Why?

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (23 children) | Copy Link

This exact behaviour now - scroll up. Said it a dozen times

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (22 children) | Copy Link

You actually haven’t said it. Just made ad hominem attacks

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (21 children) | Copy Link

😂 mate, read and read again

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (20 children) | Copy Link

You didn’t say why. The end.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (19 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha this is why nobody wants to listen to you bro, said it sooooo many times

It's ok, you're too lazy to read haha. Thought so

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (18 children) | Copy Link

Oh no: no one on PPD is listening. That’s never happened before here! Ever! Everyone just takes it super seriously and read and reflect intently and responds with understanding.

Except for me.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (17 children) | Copy Link

😂scroll & read bud, answers are there

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (16 children) | Copy Link

It’s not.
You never said.
Cause nothing bannable has been done.

So-

https://youtu.be/wg1dhDfW1us?is=NdvwMtmWTeN0t65K

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (15 children) | Copy Link

Scroll up 😂 - read, I know you're allergic to reading.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (14 children) | Copy Link

Not there. Cause I didn’t do anything bannable

That’s why the link is relevant………

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (13 children) | Copy Link

😂 keep reading man, you'll find it

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (12 children) | Copy Link

Can’t find what’s not there.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (11 children) | Copy Link

You refuse to read so never will 😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (10 children) | Copy Link

Can’t read what’s not there.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (9 children) | Copy Link

You don't read at all

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (8 children) | Copy Link

So I’m responding to these telepathicly?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (7 children) | Copy Link

Can't help a non-reader 😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

Can’t show what isn’t there.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (5 children) | Copy Link

Lol just a reading test you failed 😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

it’s not there.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

Hahah telling how how much - read it all again bro.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

Don’t need to there is no all in none.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

Mate, you're sadly telling on yourself. I can't help you

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no! No help?!
Is that what ppd is for?

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is degenerate to you? Will you be upset if your children express degenerate sexual preferences? You going to say something to them about it?

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (33 children) | Copy Link

What is degenerate to you? Will you be upset if your children express degenerate sexual preferences? You going to say something to them about it?

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Honestly after (tho one already is) an adult I want them to be who they are however they are as long as they feel safe and respected with whoever they are with.

When you do your best to raise them by being the example of the values you speak on, it’s seemed to impart those values better than “don’t do that! It will embarrass/anger/upset me if you do!”

[–]JamesCruse 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Thats so weird and you're almost 50 and don't have kids with this opinion.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Sure I don’t have kids, go with that

(Post history is still open)

[–]JamesCruse 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Lol sure mate, nice proof of nothing

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]JamesCruse 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

😆you won't even say the company you work for. Or what countr you were even born (which you would think is easy).

Nobody believes you dude.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Everybody! This guy says he doesn’t believe my life!

See:

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

Ahah you're scared to say where you were born, why?

Maybe its all fake, of course.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

Or lazy doxxing attempts are lazy
And the comments history is open

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol how is saying your country of birth doxing?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

Bruh look at my avatar. It says the state and region.

[–]JamesCruse1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So say it here where were you born?

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (20 children) | Copy Link

feel safe and respected with whoever they are with.

Feeling safe and "respected" is exactly what allows people to live out (and develop) their stupid degenerate fantasies and fetishes without shame

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Why should people feel shame tho. As long as it’s two consenting adults, whatever it is can be theirs. It definitely might not be for everyone, but what’s wrong with enjoying a kink or fetish or fantasy with someone you love?

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (18 children) | Copy Link

You think people should never feel shame over sexual fantasy?

[–]JamesCruse 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, lift and lurk doesn't really know anything about this.

He admits he doesn't and thinks his own opinion is irrelevant. He's just doing this to have fun with people to see what they do.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I think that two consenting adults enjoying their fantasy (outside of harming others obviously) for them to enjoy.
Like I said- it might be a NO! From me, but then again I’m sure I did things others wouldn’t want to do.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Oh so if one of them brought the other over in a collar and leash to the family party, you'd be fine with that everyones consenting?

If they make disgusting degrading porn of themselves that is blast it all over the internet, they are getting invited to the family party?

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I’d be like “you can leash up after family time if that’s your guys thing.”

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (13 children) | Copy Link

Why not do it during family time, whats the harm? How is it different than you kissing your wife in front of family?

I will say though that you sound like that type of dad that gets blindsided real quick when his little girl goes off the rails. Then you guys tend to "cuck down" and accept all of her choices, never pushing back. Quite sad to see

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (12 children) | Copy Link

Once again, TWO consenting adults doing their thing.

And I’m not sure what rails they might be going off, but my job was to raise them to adulthood, not dictate their lives.

And so far, all that’s given us is daughters that not only love us, but actually like being around and want to spend time with us.

So I’ll take my chances

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (11 children) | Copy Link

So I’ll take my chances

Ya thats what they all say. Then they come home with Tyrone

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (10 children) | Copy Link

Well considering my oldest is adopted and Black, that wouldn’t be that big of a surprise.

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

cringe, bro you are such a stereotype. Seriously what is up with white families and their FETISH for adopting little black babies. Why didn't you adopt a russian baby or a latin american baby or a cambodian baby.

Always its black. Blond families with their little black adoptees. WEIRD.

White people are such a lost cause, so many crazies.

Did you ever stop to wonder why black families never adopt little white kids? Lol no, you never stopped to think about that huh?

Btw if your oldest is a man, you have nothing to worry about, he will be bringing home white girls who fetishize his dick, guaranteed

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -2 points -1 points 0 points 2 weeks ago   (8 children) | Copy Link

cringe, bro you are such a stereotype. Seriously what is up with white families and their FETISH for adopting little black babies. Why didn't you adopt a russian baby or a latin american baby or a cambodian baby.

Always its black. Blond families with their little black adoptees. WEIRD.

White people are such a lost cause, so many crazies.

Did you ever stop to wonder why black families never adopt little white kids? Lol no, you never stopped to think about that huh?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (7 children) | Copy Link

Well she wasn’t a baby: we had always been talking about fostering thru a program we were connected to but kept putting it off till one call came in from the social worker saying “there is an urgent case that you two would be perfect for and it’s urgent. You can say no, but if you say no- we are going to have to put you at the bottom of the list going forward”

So we agreed to meet her (me knowing full well we were going to bring her home)

Turn out her mom wax a struggling addict that relapsed. So she helped walk and it sounds like almost carry her mom to the ER and then said “what happens to me if my mom dies?”
And so the hospital got a hold of the social worker, who got in touch with the Social worker who knows us, and so that’s how we met our oldest.

Didn’t know what race she was, didn’t matter. Our daughter was out there somewhere and we were going to go get her.

And she has been such a blessing and truly given us so much more than anything that we could ever have possibly imagined.

Sorry, I just love to tell our story.

You were trying to race bait. Please: continue

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

Ya shes not your daughter. Go read the article on adopted children having resentment against their parents for pretending like they are actually their real parents.

Its not "racebaiting" when I am just speaking my truth. Its not bait. Its truth.

At least you didnt go snatch her from Africa like so many others

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (5 children) | Copy Link

Well we have a good relationship with her bio family once they were found. Her mom, well she still struggles. I never made her call me anything, she just started calling me dad.

And everyone can see what you are trying to do.

The only problem the one thing stronger than hate is love. So no words can ever affect me or my relationship with my family.

But keep going. You’ll see how little fuel you’ll get from this engagement and likely move on

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (3 children) | Copy Link

Theres no hate in criticizing crazy white people and their delusional notions

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

and that notion is a loving family?

no one cares about shade that comes from trees that bear no fruit.

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (1 child) | Copy Link

No, its their notions of racial relations

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

So it is race baiting.

[–] PurplePillDebate-ModTeam [ M ] 0 points 1 point 2 points 1 week ago locked comment   (0 children) | Copy Link

No Race-Baiting or Racially Charged Content

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (38 children) | Copy Link

what are you talking about? all the shame is always some form of "you only think about sex" despite that not really being the case but they just openly prioritizing it the way they push form and that isnt coming precisely from conservative groups.

also a self admitted high n person talking about degeneracy is ironic to see

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (37 children) | Copy Link

Why is there shame? If I don’t think like that i don’t. If a person is going to make that judgement without knowing me then why do I care about judgy peoples opinions?

I was very open about who I was and what I was about. Because I never cared about the opinions of people I don’t care about

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (36 children) | Copy Link

im saying those people shame them like that

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (35 children) | Copy Link

It won’t work. No one cares about the shade that comes from trees that bear no fruit.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (34 children) | Copy Link

i fail to see were you re trying to get at, the point is that is very hypocritical to preach sex positivy while shaming the very people who align with your views.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (33 children) | Copy Link

And I explained above. Just cause you are sex positive doesn’t mean “sexually aggressive” or sex obsessed.

Once again the binary thinking of “all or none” that Pills create is not his real life works.

Nuance

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago* (32 children) | Copy Link

you re doing the exact same thing im pointing out lol, just because it isnt convenient to your narrative

>Once again the binary thinking of “all or none” that Pills create is not his real life works.

Then maybe you should practice what you preach because nobody is talking about a sex pest who harasses people so they sleep with him, we re talking about dudes who prioritize sex and if he doesnt gets it they go somewhere else

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (31 children) | Copy Link

Oh we got another “narrative”

People enjoy their lives. Some are shamed by others.

Most don’t care because they don’t care what people they don’t share values with say.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (30 children) | Copy Link

i fail to see how this addresses my point in any way but keep malfunctioning over points you cant rebutte i guess

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (29 children) | Copy Link

Go back and re read my original comment.

It states it perfectly. I get that those trying to push a narrative don’t like it.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (28 children) | Copy Link

you original comment is pure deflection too, it doesnt addresses none of my points but instead talks about an imaginary argument nobody is making.

again, keep malfunctioning over points you cant rebutte i guess

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (26 children) | Copy Link

It literally addresses the point that the idea is an over correction.

It’s clear that binary thinking makes that confusing.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (25 children) | Copy Link

you re the only one talking about binaries here, nobody else

again, keep malfunctioning over points you cant rebutte i guess

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (24 children) | Copy Link

I showed how the response was an overcorrection. With an analogy

Not grasping that nuance is the issue.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (23 children) | Copy Link

you arguing over points that nobody is making is the actual issue

keep malfunctioning over points you cant rebutte i guess

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (22 children) | Copy Link

I literally adressed your point. Just saying Nuh uh doesn’t mean I didn’t

You just don’t like the fact that others really can’t shame those who don’t care.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (21 children) | Copy Link

you arent, you re arguing about a imaginary point that only exist in your head and being snarky about it doesnt changes that.

keep malfunctioning over points you cant rebutte i guess

the actual issue is that you dont like the fact of how much my point exposes the hypocrisy of the moralistic sex "positive" crowd and you cant refute it

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (20 children) | Copy Link

See that last line “hypocrisy of moralistic”

Thats an agenda. Me explaining why it won’t work is upsetting I guess.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (19 children) | Copy Link

boy you re just proving that indeed you dont like the fact of how much my point exposes the hypocrisy of the moralistic sex "positive" crowd and you cant refute it

Which is why the only thing you have been doing is anything but demonstrating how they arent hypocritical

dw, humbleness to admit one is wrong is hard to achieve but eventually you ll get there even if you re high n

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (18 children) | Copy Link

I literally explained that no one cares that some might cry “hypocrisy!” When they don’t care about those values the other person is pushing in the first place.

No one cares about the shade coming from trees that bear no fruit.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (17 children) | Copy Link

"wdym" their values? it is the values from the sex positive crowd the ones being discussed, it is literally the values from the same sex positive crowd shaming people for treating sex the same way they push for (when it isnt convenient of course).

you just admitted you re not addressing my point at all but instead you re deflecting with a bunch of overly word saladified "grapes were sour" anyways type of argument. 😂

Did you just admit they re hypocritical too? i guess we can agree then.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (16 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the idea that “I declare it’s hypocritical!” Doesn’t mean anything to those that don’t care
And your example that “they shame those who go overboard” was explained

How is this confusing?!

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (15 children) | Copy Link

because you re not addressing the point that it is hypocritical. but instead you re just resorting to some mean girl rationalizatons, which is by itself an admission that you cant really refute the point

or can you demonstrate how it is not hypocritical to condemn people for acting up on the same values you claim to champion? 🤔

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (14 children) | Copy Link

I stated what was actually happening, then stated why the incorrect assertion would be ineffective regardless.

And i literally did explain “sex positive” doesn’t mean “I get to be as sexual as I want to anyone I want anywhere I want!”

The positivity doesn’t take away respect or maturity that’s still expected or required.

Bruh

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (9 children) | Copy Link

>I stated what was actually happening, then stated why the incorrect assertion would be ineffective regardless.

another admission that you re arguing about a point nobody is making.

>And i literally did explain “sex positive” doesn’t mean “I get to be as sexual as I want to anyone I want anywhere I want!

Nobody has argued otherwise

humbleness to admit one is wrong is hard to achieve but enventually you ll overcome the anger and get there, dw

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (8 children) | Copy Link

I literally explained how what I said was a relevant and direct response.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (7 children) | Copy Link

is not relevant because nobody is arguing about those points you re bringing up.

if you gonna argue address the points people are actually making instead of arguing against imaginary points that only exist in your head

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

You’re literally arguing for those points. What?

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (5 children) | Copy Link

im not, you re just making stuff up cuz you cant refute the hypocrisy

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

I literally explained above. Wow

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

you havent, in fact you even said "we dont care that you call us hypocrites reee"

just let it go dude, you re just digging yourself deeper into the mud. 🤣

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

Once again I explained how it really is AND THEN explained how the method you proposed (shaming them) wouldn’t work anyways.

This isn’t complicated.

[–]JamesCruse1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

He deflects all the time and never rebutts anything mate.

He has not much to say - and he just deflects instead. Send it off to the mods so he can get banned for constantly trolling and circlejerking.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

now you re intentionally twisting my words, no wonder People prefered trump when this is his opposition

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

I was trumps opposition?! Where was my SuperPAc funds??

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol weird views and talking yourself around in circles incoherently again? 😆

Make a coherent sentence and cite sources. You said your own opinion is worthless.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

The first sentence was the most coherent.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

Mate its gobbledegook in those sentences as usual 😆 Makes sense coming from you

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah it’s fine

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

who is doing this? prioritizing sex in a modern way is just baseline. its assumed by most of the public.

maybe the people doing that shaming arent the liberal masses, but are outliers themselves.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

well, those women who have had casual sex once or used to have casual sex but get angry when a guy also wants sex quick and goes somewhere else when he realizes she wont put out or get angry at some romantic guy who doesnt finds the thought of wining and dining some woman with a loose past ideal, or get angry when you propose them a 50/50 split, like it really doesnt makes sense

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

why is it contradictory for someone who has had casual sex in the past to be unhappy that someone, or maybe multiple people wouldnt want anything except casual sex?

also why are these people the liberal masses?

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

what is contradictory is to berate someone who wants sex quickly (in the same way they defend) or someone who doesnt considers them ideal over their past and walk away.

>also why are these people the liberal masses?

How should i know? all i know is that most of them happen to be liberals angry that privilege comes with responsibilities. I know conservatives dont agree with with the trivialization of sex neither but conservatives dont preach sex "positivity".

[–]esp_1123Purple Pill Man 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (41 children) | Copy Link

I still don’t understand why some people think you’re not allowed to want a low n-count partner when you yourself have a high n-count. It’s like telling a person they’re not allowed to want a tall partner because they aren’t tall themselves. Or telling someone they’re not allowed to want an extroverted partner when they themselves aren’t out going.

[–]SprayAffectionate321Purple Pill Woman 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're allowed to want whatever you want, just like people are allowed to point out the double standards around your preference.

[–]AngeAwareBlue Pill Woman: Sunrise on the Blooping 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've certainly had people on this sub tell me that waiting until marriage is a terrible idea but I don't recall anyone saying "I'm not allowed to."

Where do people get that from? "The anonymous strangers criticizing my choices are trying to control me."

I also think that the concept of distinguishing between high n and low n non-virgins is ridiculous personally but I've never said people aren't allowed to do that.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (26 children) | Copy Link

Height or extroversion are not rooted in morality like how people usually view n count. You’re “allowed” to want whatever you want, but people can still have opinions on what those things say about you.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago* (25 children) | Copy Link

i dont have a horse in this race because i disagree with high n men chasing after low n women too.

but n count thingy has never been about morality, it is simply a plain romantic turn off when a woman has a high count, of course exceptions exist, but generally thats the rule assuming we re talking about a conventional society

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (24 children) | Copy Link

A high n man wanting a low n woman is communicating that he thinks sex is degrading when women have it, but empowering when men have it. Those are obvious moral judgements in that double standard, and there’s no getting around how misogynistic and gross it is.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you think sex can never be degrading?

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (14 children) | Copy Link

So you think sex can never be degrading?

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I’m saying that consensual sex is not somehow more degrading to a woman than it is to a man.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Thats not true, its much easier for a man to degrade a woman during sex than vice versa.

Sex between men and women does not HAVE TO BE degrading for the woman, but its FAR more likely to be degrading for the woman than the man.

Thats why men are worried about women with high n-counts the likeilihood they have been sexually degraded by another man is sky high.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (11 children) | Copy Link

How is a woman uniquely “degraded”during sex, unless it were non consensual? Makes no sense to me.

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Like if you say to her "take this big dick you slut" while you grab her neck.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You know couples often do dirty talk too? It’s not degrading unless someone talks to you like that outside the bedroom. Sex is usually a place for fantasy and role play.

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (8 children) | Copy Link

How is that no degrading?

Yes fantasy and role play of degrading the women.

So you think I should be happy to kiss my wife on our wedding day and she has had another man gripping the back of her neck and calling her his slut a few years before?

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (7 children) | Copy Link

Are you degrading your wife if you talk dirty to her in bed?

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

Yes? Obviously? Are you for real right now?

So in your crazy brain, you think a man degrading you in bed, isn't REALLY degrading you in bed, because you like him and it makes his dick hard?

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (5 children) | Copy Link

Um yes? Kinky sex with my partner is not degrading lol. He still treats me with respect and care outside of the bedroom too.

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

So he enjoys degrading you. You just label it as "kink" to feel better.

Who cares how he treats you out of the bedroom. We are talking about sex. How he treats you in sex.

Are you one of those girls that lets her man "simulate rape" on her lmao?

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

Feel better about what exactly? It makes our sex life fun and novel.

[–] Internal_Writing5485 Purple Pill Man 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (1 child) | Copy Link

Its not novel. Its bog standard male degradation fantasy.

Your the type of women to do race play the second you get into an interracial relationship

"yes daddy whatever you want, just tell me your kinks and ill fulfill them!".

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Kink keeps things novel in the same way we also like to eat new exotic foods for novelty. Idk why this is so upsetting to you, to the point where you’re now making weird racist accusation towards me lol. I also like your assumption that sexual fantasies only come from men, as if women aren’t also sexually autonomous beings with our own fantasies in our own privacy.

If you like very vanilla sex or if you have a very limited palate in your diet etc., I have nothing against you. You can find someone who likes to share that lifestyle with you.

[–] PurplePillDebate-ModTeam [ M ] 0 points 1 point 2 points 1 week ago locked comment   (0 children) | Copy Link

No Race-Baiting or Racially Charged Content

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

is not, is like some fat slob who wants a thin woman, people naturally find thin people more attractive than fat people regardless of wether they re fat or not, nothing indicates that fat person should find another fat person more attractive just because they re fat themselves, hypocritical definetly, but it doesnt fits this malicious frame you re trying to attribute to it

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

People who are fat don’t want to be fat; it’s notoriously difficult to change your eating habits, exercise consistently, etc. I don’t fault anyone for being attracted to thin/fit people. It’s a wealth signal more than anything else.

Those men don’t get high n counts by accident or misfortune, and they do it for fun. If a man thinks that fun is good when men have it but bad when women have it, that tells you all you need to know about how he views women. It’s no coincidence that it lines up with many conservative religious beliefs that women become owned/ruined forever once they’ve slept with a man. Like women’s bodies are only property of men.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

bruh, look what are the sexual rules for men under the religion you re berating so much, your mind is gonna explode when you realize they re the same for both women and men.

Is clear everything you learned about religion comes from reddit Circlejerk echo chambers therefore everything you just said should be dismissed.

Also, my point is not that high n men are justified in prefering low n women, my point is that is a natural impulse just like some fat guy finding a thin woman more attractive than a fat one. They prefer them because they re more romantically attractive, it is an impulse, not because they have some sort of twisted morality about it, it is still hypocritical and shouldnt be praised nor encouraged, but the way you re framing it doesnt reflects reality.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Most people in western countries are not hyper religious let alone follow every single “rule” in their religious book to a T. People tend to pick and choose which things they agree with and which things they don’t all the time. And considering that the most popular religions are patriarchal, they usually give men more moral freedom and leeway to repent: Women are usually seen as the arbiters of morality that need to strictly adhere to being moral “role models”, for children’s sake.

I don’t see how double standards are a “natural” impulse, that’s just an empty argument. It’s a misogynistic impulse rooted in conservative cultural ideas about women’s bodies being men’s property.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

yeah but you re claiming such thinking is rooted in religion when it is not true and you just admited it yourself by claiming people dont follow its rules, nothing of what you said is true for the religion you re criticizing, maybe for others it is.

Also im not justifying double standards, is not a natural impulse for high n men to prefer romantic relationships with low n women, is natural impulse for all men just like it is a natural impulse for people to prefer thin people over fat ones, even if they re fat themselves, is just that high n men happen to be men too, they re hypocritical yes, just like some fat guy who wants a thin supermodel is laughable. it shouldnt be encouraged nor promoted, but is not rooted in morality like you re claiming

Is not rocket science, come on.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m giving you the historical context for why it’s a common cultural belief in many places. I’m not claiming that most westerners are devoted to religion.

And if liking lower n were just simply about seeing it as an objectively “better” trait, then it wouldn’t get treated like a double standard by many sexist men. Men would moralize against other men for having high n as much as they do women. But since there’s a lot of sexism involved, reality doesn’t play out like that.

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

Is not about morality, is about what people find attractive, in romantic context men dont care about the high counts of other men because they arent dating men same way women dont care if other women are bisexual because they re not dating women, if more women were vocal about not wanting to date men with high body counts then most men would agree it matters for men too, you re arguing bout morality where there is none.

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

We find certain behaviors attractive or unattractive because we’ve moralized them. It’s usually unconscious because we learn them from culture.

Men don’t care about bisexuality in women because they often hope it means they can have a threesome, and they’re not as sexually threatened by other women because women’s bisexuality is usually seen as secretly straight / preferring men. Bi men in turn get seen as secretly gay / preferring men.

Men who hate n high count women literally claim that those women “ruin western society” or whatever tf. It’s not just about dating preferences, they specifically moralize against women being sexually autonomous and not tied down to the first man she sleeps with.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

same reason it is laughable for a fat slob to demand a 60-90-60 super model and berate fat women

[–]esp_1123Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You went for an extreme example but I’ll bite. A fat person is absolutely allowed to want a supermodel if that’s their prerogative. Whether a supermodel wants them back is a completely different issue. Having a preference and having that preference reciprocated are two different things. People want qualities in a partner that they themselves don’t have all the time. Like I said before, someone who’s short can prefer tall partners. Someone who’s introverted can prefer outgoing partners. And someone with a high n-count can prefer a low n-count partner. Whether the people they’re interested in are equally interested in them is an entirely separate question.

That said, berating or insulting people because they don’t meet your preferences is never ok and I don’t support that whatsoever. Having preferences and treating people with respect aren’t mutually exclusive.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i didnt say they cant, im saying it is laughable

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You can want all you want. Complaining about it if it doesn’t happen is what people don’t want to hear.

Stop trying to justify to others, it’s telling on oneself.

[–]esp_1123Purple Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

“You can want all you want. Complaining about it if it doesn’t happen is what people don’t want to hear.”

Yeahhhhh no that’s not the case at all. Anytime someone mentions how want a low n-count parter you see a ton of “well you better have low count yourself!!!” The preference itself is what an overwhelming majority in that camp have an issue with.

“Stop trying to justify to others, it’s telling on oneself.”

Um. Ok?

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Overwhelming majority? Bruh where are people talking about this other than online?!

[–]esp_1123Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I could’ve been clearer there. I said “an overwhelming majority in that camp”. Meaning of the people who have a problem with people having n-count preferences, an overwhelming majority of them believe you can only want a low n count partner if you yourself also have a low count.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So, the people that have a problem with it are constantly telling you that they have a problem?
Not actually anyone else?

Bruh

[–]esp_1123Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

My original comment was about not understanding why some people feel this way in the first place. Not about anyone telling me anything or me justifying myself, those were your words not mine.

[–]JamesCruse 2 weeks ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

He's just disagreeing to troll and be disagreeable to try to dominate you.

He really doesn't understand what you're saying.

[–]PurplePillDebate-ModTeam[M] 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks agolocked comment (0 children) | Copy Link

Be civil. This includes direct attacks against an individual, indirect attacks against an individual, or witch hunting.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because just like some people have opinions and preferences for one thing, others have different opinions. And that’s fine. They aren’t gonna fuck those dudes anyways.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

When a woman with a high n count thinks she can judge a guys masculinity:

Why would they get angry about that thought? dont they claim to be anti gender roles and all that? why would they get angry they dont get the same status modest women would get in romantic societies? 🤔

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Most men arent attractive enough to get casual sex and that is ok

[–]Glad-Bed3406 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (1 child) | Copy Link

why's that okay?

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill [score hidden] 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Natural selection

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its also ok to find 30 year old women with very little sexual experience and no relationship experience weird and offputting

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Define little sexual experience?

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (16 children) | Copy Link

It's not for me. I will have it even if I had to sacrifice everything.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

just move to a really liberal place and get into some weird hobby or something, in those places even the biggest bottom of the barrel losers can still get relationships or casual encounters, it wont be with supermodels but sometimes they even bag a billie eilish type (ie her resenment towards men lol)

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[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (14 children) | Copy Link

You still not had it yet???

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Not yet. I'm not ready for it right now. I'm in my self-improvement phase, working to become perfect

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Lmao

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (11 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You said that last time

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but it takes time, unfortunately

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Why??

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What why? Becoming perfect takes time. Building the perfect body alone takes years.

[–] Axis_Control Meow Pill 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

What do you want to be remembered for?

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (5 children) | Copy Link

A hot fling from her past.

[–] Axis_Control Meow Pill 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

So you just want to be remembered as good looking?

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes, a hot fling from her past who rocked her world.

[–] Axis_Control Meow Pill 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol gl with rocking their world, majority of men suck at casual sex

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (1 child) | Copy Link

Then I will make sure I am the exception.

[–] Axis_Control Meow Pill 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao ya glll

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man 7 points8 points9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It’s kinda funny when women pretend they lie about their N-count for any reason other then being ashamed of it

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What are the other reasons given?

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“I don’t remember”

[–]love_in_octoberBlue Pill Woman | January 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it's high enough or you think you were in these situations when blackout drunk or high you probably don't remember. Many wouldn't see any value in keeping careful count.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TBF, I lost track in the 20s so I get his it can happen. I was too busy partying and enjoying myself to be logging it in a data center

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Does anyone know who started the myth that a woman having sex quickly with a man means he's more attractive than the men she waits to have sex???

I'd like to speak with that person. Because they lied.

[–]BONEPILLTIMEEEETERNAL REPPER (AGP AND "DYSPHORIA" SUFFERER) 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why tf is 'I want to fuck a hotter person more than a less hot person' controversial 

[–]SomerandomduderebornLvl 26 apprentice wizard 😎🪄, It is what it is pill 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"We find this one guy more attractive that's why we make him to wait to have sex while we have sex quickly with this other guy who we found less attractive than him"

Explain this logic, please.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hookups vs relationships.

HTH.

[–]SomerandomduderebornLvl 26 apprentice wizard 😎🪄, It is what it is pill 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not an explanation.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's very much an explanation. It's okay if you don't like the explanation. It's still an explanation.

Have a good one.

[–]SomerandomduderebornLvl 26 apprentice wizard 😎🪄, It is what it is pill 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But most women don't really purse both though?

I mean wasn't there data that most women aren't actually looking for casual sex?

Unless you tell me that looks requirements are different, often for hookups it's higher, which if yes then it will prove the myth as valid 🤷

[–]brassbuffaloChill Pill Man - my pills aren't helping anymore 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is true. Go tell Axis_Control she's wrong if you think it's not true.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It came from PUA pitching the idea “we can unlock the secret triggers to make her uncontrollably desire you! (Buy my course)”

And when that didn’t work the struggling guys couldn’t say “hey! I think k we got scammed!” It was “oh it must be something…. It’s gotta be we aren’t hot enough!!!”

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I had a feeling it was very PUA coded.

So much of what they make up is out of their insecurities they aren't good enough.

It would be sad if they didn't create such pathetic fan fiction.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Behind the bastards did a deep dive on the whole history of them. The snarky and humorous comments make the journey really entertaining!

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ooh fun! I loved when PUA showed up in procedural dramas back in the early 2000s.

Always fun to see it mocked even in silly cop/crime shows.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no horse in this race because im not a secular so sex on the first night is not even an expectation, but i find it curious how you all push for a loose attitude about sex, and prude shame people who view sex as this huge, relationship-defining act that you shouldnt have loosely and not with just anyone

Yet when a man openly prioritizes sex in the modern way you all defend, you immediately reduce him to someone who 'only thinks about sex.' It seems very contradictory to champion sex-positivity while shaming the very people who align with your views.

[–]growframeNo Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, is that not how selection works in anything else? Usually it's the people most qualified, desired, or otherwise preferred that have to put in the least immediate effort to get chosen.

The essence of nepotism is giving someone a fast track or looser expectationd because of connections. Schools give scholarships to exceptional students. Elites in various fields are begged by insitutions to join them rather than the other way around. Plenty of coaches know their job is on the chopping block if the franchise player isn't a guaranteed starter.

What other facet of life does this supposed phenomeon where the most wanted candidates get put through a waiting period appear?

[–]CopingAliveNo Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a good chance.

Women face much more risk typically by having sex with a stranger. So if you are a stranger and are hooking up then either she's horny or you are attractive and tickling her buttons (also getting her horny). In the latter case she's ignoring the risk, they assesit's a risk worth taking if you're hot enough.

[–]datboigeorgehennen 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

started by a woman having sex quickly with a man they find more attractive. cheers hope this helps

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dating apps literally exist as permanent proof of that concept. People who play dumb about that probably live an environment with few to no attractive people. Maybe a rural area or something

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

N counts are odd, if you think about it. I believe if a normal distribution was made out of women who aren’t noticeably overweight, then the guy in the top 70% would be the one who has the highest N count. The reason being is that he’s attractive enough relative to average women (the most common women you see around) to frequently get attention, but not so attractive as to raise his standards too much. 

I think society would be better if a mirror were held up to people when they talk about how attractive or unattractive others are. You can tell that a lot of women aren’t attracted to the guys they’re in relationships with when casual sex comes up as a topic online.

Tracking the female gaze, I think most women are conventionally attracted to guys who are facially equal to them, and also a bit fitter & 8 inches taller than them. This requires a bit of lucky genetics, and free time for exercise/hygiene.

People in wealthier environments tend to have higher facial standards, because they tend to be better looking. People in poorer environments have the lowest facial standards. If people are born in one area and move to another area, then they’ll probably notice a difference in dating prospects depending on how attractive their face is relative to others. Guys who want a high N count should move to a city where people are short, because that will have the highest quantity of people conventionally attracted to him. 

Women who want a conventionally attractive casual sex partner should move to a city where the average height is very tall. Those cities should be more difficult for guys

[–]butttorp3do 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey man this is DARVO

Me and my frat decided 

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Someone whose goal is to sleep with as many women as possible. I don’t even care if they enjoy the sex or not; as long as I know I’m desirable to a lot of women, that’s enough for me.

[–]butttorp3do 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These dudes are buttplugs

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why would a woman desire the guy who doesn't care if they enjoy sex or not????

[–]winter_lover281 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I meant whether I enjoy it or not is what's important, and I do enjoy it.

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I meant : Someone whose goal is to sleep with as many women as possible. I don't even care whether I enjoy the sex or not. As long as I know I'm desirable to a lot of women, they enjoy it a lot, and they'll probably remember me for a long time, that's enough for me.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (74 children) | Copy Link

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[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

You don't have to replay.

[–]butttorp3do 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We will all have sex at the same time

Im synchronization my watch

[–]butttorp3do -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry bro 

 abitch and lift and lurk and me 

We're all going to have sex right now

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (70 children) | Copy Link

And a lot of pill dudes would be better off keeping a private journal instead of posting, but what would the fun be in that?

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (69 children) | Copy Link

What I meant : Someone whose goal is to sleep with as many women as possible. I don't even care whether I enjoy the sex or not. As long as I know I'm desirable to a lot of women, they enjoy it a lot, and they'll probably remember me for a long time, that's enough for me.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (68 children) | Copy Link

So it has nothing to do with the sex, you “just wanna feel pretty”?

Ok

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (67 children) | Copy Link

Technically, yes. It is validation for me.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (66 children) | Copy Link

What if you didn’t need that validation tho?

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (65 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that's the 'what if.' But I've never had that validation in my life. Now I need it. I crave it.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (64 children) | Copy Link

What if you just didn’t. What if you already knew you were enough

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (63 children) | Copy Link

If that hypothetical situation were real, I would get a girlfriend

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (62 children) | Copy Link

Then go get a girlfriend. Look it’s real.

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (61 children) | Copy Link

No, what if that girl had casual sex?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (60 children) | Copy Link

Then she had casual sex.

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (59 children) | Copy Link

I've never had casual sex, so I would experience retroactive jealousy.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (58 children) | Copy Link

Why, did you want sleep with the guy she did?!

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (57 children) | Copy Link

Stop this gay accusation thing. You know what I mean

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (56 children) | Copy Link

No I don’t. You’re jealous that a person who didn’t know you at the time got to sleep with a male stranger. That’s literally what you said.

Think on that

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (55 children) | Copy Link

I am jealous that she had the experiences many people have when they're young, and I didn't. It makes me feel undesirable.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (54 children) | Copy Link

So her actually desiring you and being with you as a gf is irrelevant?

Think about that.

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

I dont trust it

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

So you don’t trust her. Why would anyone be with someone that doesn’t trust them?

See how it always comes back around to self destructive behavior?

[–] winter_lover28 Casual>Relationship Man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't trust how much she desires me

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

See how that’s a you think tho? She’s literally willing to commit to you and do stuff with you. And that’s not enough. To you.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Lift and Lurk has no idea what he's talking about, I know because he wants every guy to fail.

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (48 children) | Copy Link

Look at this dating authority trying to give advice.

Are you a datin coach now mate?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (47 children) | Copy Link

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (46 children) | Copy Link

Lol your opinion doesn't matter - as you said.

You really want to give people advice and be an authority ahahah 😂

Now I get your game of trolling haha

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (45 children) | Copy Link

Notice how I very much pointed out how his opinion of himself was the issue?

That’s not my opinion.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (44 children) | Copy Link

You've been correct all along - your opinion is irrelevant, you point out things you think you saw is an opinion and irrelevant (as you said)

Keep giving irrelevant opinions man.😆

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (43 children) | Copy Link

If you really thought they were, it wouldn’t be so upsetting.

I see you care more about my opinions than I do. That’s ok.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (42 children) | Copy Link

Lol I'm doing this to remind everyone..

You really care about these guys thinking of you as an authority, its so sad😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (41 children) | Copy Link

Really? How much do I care about it (according to you)?

[–] JamesCruse [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (18 children) | Copy Link

You need this sub to have meaning in your sad life and be an authority.

But you also say your opinions don't matter (which we all agree with).

There's literally no other reason you're here and its saaaaaad😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (38 children) | Copy Link

And what meaning does this sub bring?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (37 children) | Copy Link

It's all ego for you - to try to act like an authority to pump your ego.

But you admit your opinion is nothing 🤣

Its so weird and sad

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (36 children) | Copy Link

So this sub has power to boost RPs egos?

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (35 children) | Copy Link

Keep tryin to pump your ego bro - seems like you're failing 😢😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (34 children) | Copy Link

So you do think this sub boost egos!

lol!

PPD of all places!

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (33 children) | Copy Link

You really try to get your ego pumped and everyone else keeps getting in your way ahaha

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (32 children) | Copy Link

And ppd is where people get ego pump? Thats you final answer?

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (31 children) | Copy Link

No, you do mate😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (30 children) | Copy Link

Why?

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (29 children) | Copy Link

😆 you tell us mate, look at you trying to insert yourself giving advice daily. When you think your own opinion is garbage 👎

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (28 children) | Copy Link

What advice was that?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (27 children) | Copy Link

All the things you try to tell guys - they're so out of date and not respected too (you don't even take your own opinion seriously)

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (26 children) | Copy Link

“All the things”

-citations not found-

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (25 children) | Copy Link

You: gobbldegook

Me: ahh you proved my point about nobody caring about your opinions 🤣

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (24 children) | Copy Link

So no citations. Coo

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (23 children) | Copy Link

Aww poor diddums is hurt nobody wants to take his seduction coaching advice😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (22 children) | Copy Link

You already said there was no advice so…..

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (21 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for agreeing you don't give advicr and you don't know that opinions and advic3 using opinions are the same😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (20 children) | Copy Link

You’re the one making the claims I gave advice. When did I say that?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (19 children) | Copy Link

Lol

You: Opinions for advice is NOT advice bro. Trust me bro 😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (18 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. “I think they should have run the ball on 3rd down” my opinion

Not -the offensive coordinator should be listening to my advice.

See the difference?

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (17 children) | Copy Link

😂 exactly how much people listen to you.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (16 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, one guy in particular seems to be hanging on my every post

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (15 children) | Copy Link

Haha just trashing all your terrible posts

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (14 children) | Copy Link

Good, keep doing it!

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (13 children) | Copy Link

Hahah keep giving awful advice tjsy nobody takes ahahah

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (12 children) | Copy Link

Maybe they won’t. Maybe they will. I’d have to give it first.

But it’s PPD. No one is listening to anything anyways.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (11 children) | Copy Link

Exactly - so you keep trying and failing but nobody listens or cares.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (10 children) | Copy Link

So then there isn’t any problem with me still doing it. Since it has no effect!

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (9 children) | Copy Link

Lol this you justifying trying to boost your ego and pretend you're a seduction coach and you'rr just a harmless nobody that nobody listens to?

Its really sad,😂

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (8 children) | Copy Link

And how is posting on ppd boosting ego?

And ppd is a place where people need coaching you say? Not me. You say?

[–] JamesCruse -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (7 children) | Copy Link

Haha why do you post here to give advice and act like a blackpill dating coach?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

I don’t- that’s just what one says about me.
People say a lot of stuff.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (5 children) | Copy Link

😂 Again why do you post here to give advice and act like a blackpill dating coach?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

Where advice?

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

Its constant 😂 all the time

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

-citation needed-

[–] JamesCruse [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–] PurplePillDebate-ModTeam [ M ] 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago locked comment   (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (33 children) | Copy Link

I love being high n. I absolutely love that it lets me vet out some losers who think that women are just used goods. And since it comes with quite a bit of pleasure, i see no downsides.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (29 children) | Copy Link

The true losers are men who pay for something others got for free and in a better shape. High N count women definitely have their advantages tho not gonna deny that.

[–]RelativeCondition915Demosthenes the Internet Angel | Woman -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I wish more men identified as aromantic 

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Men generally don't care about identity nonsense, luckily.

[–]RelativeCondition915Demosthenes the Internet Angel | Woman -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I know, which is unfortunate because it's a useful term for men to describe themselves.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's just a way for attention whores to feel special. Being a heterosexual person feels boring to them.

[–]RelativeCondition915Demosthenes the Internet Angel | Woman -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sure. Okay. 

What I mean is that it would be nice if men had an easy way to express that they don't experience romantic attraction.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Typing that in the bio on social media ain't easy enough for you? As I said, most men simply don't care about being performatively special.

[–]RelativeCondition915Demosthenes the Internet Angel | Woman 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What if men told the people that they were dating that they did not experience romantic feelings? 

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 1 week ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The naturally asexual men simply don't date so they don't have anyone to tell that to.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

“Pay for something others got for free” I mean just say that you think LTRs are a burden and that you put casual sex on a pedestal. That’s the only way this mindset ever makes sense.

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No because that's not the point. I'd wait if a woman who always waits wanted me to, and value the relationship. But if a casual sex haver wanted me to wait I'd feel like a chump, and over time disrespected and resentful. It's not a universal rule, it's based on who they are.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re still describing LTRs as a burden, but you’re just adding that you’re ok with the burden as long as every past man had to go through that same burden.

If instead every past man had to “wait” for sex but not you, I’m sure you’d feel differently about that.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't have anything to do with what I think. Women themselves demand additional investments from those losers after having care free sex in the past.

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the reality. Your average LTR is a burden but your average man is a delusional cuck who takes pride in managing a burden. Women say shit like “real men do this or that” and they fall for it lmao

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you think those men didn't have sex before they met those high n count women?

Y'all seem to act like these men are virgins running around trying to bed these slutty women.

Also, what the heck is "high n count"? Can you quantify it?

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They could've had sex or they could not have - it doesn't really matter in this case, unless you wanna try to make a feeble case of hypocrisy.

High is somewhat subjective. For me it is anything higher than mine.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

Pay for? Hey, if dudes wanna get hookers that’s their own buisness

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes. You probably think inflation is also a thing that "just happens" and it's not the government indirectly stealing your money.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure a lot of times it’s corporations taking it, but in the case of tarrifs it’s the govt.

Not sure what that has to do with prostitution tho.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Corporations can't print money, that's on the fed.

Lol - the point is payments don't always happen directly.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Corporations can raise prices tho. And when prices go up, cost of living goes up. Thats inflation.

So what’s an indirect payment for a hooker? Std tests? I’m not following.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I can tell you're not following. You pay for sex with a hooker directly, you pay for sex with a reformed slut indirectly by financing your mutual activities before you have sex for the first time.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Mutual activities So you mean you pay for doing the things you enjoy?! Bruh that’s just called enjoying life.
Doing things costs money a lot.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and she will likely expect you to pay for it all despite previously having sex with guys who didn't have to do shit.

[–] JamesCruse 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Let her pay for a good amount of her side.

Don't listen to this lonely simp Lift & Lurk, he has no idea about women.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

Did she tell you that? Or did inexperienced men online tell you she’d say that? How would they know, they don’t talk to real women.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

Even if we assume that me and other men are inexperienced, feel free to read comments from women on this sub saying they expect a man to cover the check.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

And where did they say the men they had sex with before didn’t pay?

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

In the same place where you heard that they are inexperienced.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk Man: all pills are dumb 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

But we know who they are:

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hpj8TKujM9A?si=gmZG1rZ0tG57SW0H

And we know why they are inexperienced.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same. I haven't experienced any downsides.

I had fun, met some great people, and it's only increased my standards.

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I learned what i liked, and can vet more efficiently, and my sex life enriched too

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good for you. I much prefer women with this mindset over those who pretend they did it because of society or low self-esteem as a justification.

[–]salphonPurple Pill Man 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

High-n people are meaner than normal/low n. You can see it right here.

No way in hell I could trust a high-n person.

[–]half_avocado33No Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I see virgins being meaner

[–]tin8374Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because they are treated worse

[–]half_avocado33No Pill Woman 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Worse in which way?

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is high-n?

[–]Moloc_AsterionBlue Pill Man [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean it surely their choice of course and I respect it but it's undeniable how much more superior and almost "classist" they act about it. But to be fair we are on a sub of debates so it's normal I guess.

[–]Holiday_Tap_4358 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Honestly just wish I’d had more causal sex when I was younger instead of trying to be the “good girl” 

[–]saraimarsenasuper slut for a super simp ♀ BTGGF 🖤 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it was very strange for me to end up in a relationship with someone who didn’t even care , after spending my whole life thinking my count was the entirety of my value (and dating accordingly)

[–]Holiday_Tap_4358 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can’t imagine being with someone who cared but it’s still hard to move past the idea that it matters 

[–]Gold_Sheepherder6569No Pill man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you in a LTR right now?

[–]Holiday_Tap_4358 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Why? You didn't meet any big dick exciting studs doing normal dating?

Just go find a guy, and then tell him you want poly hotwifing, and then he can go find hung studs for you to play with.

Sounds like a great modern relationship.

[–]Holiday_Tap_4358 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What words are you even saying 

I didn’t really date at all when I was younger. My parents are Evanglicals and I was raised with that “I Kissed Dating Goodbye” mindset

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So why are you putting casual sex on a pedestal? You are just dying to be used as a hole by some guy and then awkwardly ghost each other?

[–]Holiday_Tap_4358 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First of all, gross.

Also, no. I wish more that I had been in a healthy relationship. But I didn’t have casual sex because I was afraid it would prevent me from being in a long term relationship. Now I can look back and realize I might as well as had sex and not been so afraid of it 

[–]Internal_Writing5485Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its only good with the top 20% of the men, the studs, so you didn't miss out much, don't worry

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

never too late

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (64 children) | Copy Link

The fact that you have to pretend to be a far leftie with "progressive" sex views in order to get a girl to open up even a little about her past on the first date is annoying af - men should be paid for being such good actors.

[–]RelativeCondition915Demosthenes the Internet Angel | Woman 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just. Date. A. Conservative.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 6 points7 points8 points 2 weeks ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Tbf if there’s men willing to lie about their values and beliefs to get closer to women, they kinda deserve the women who are also willing to lie about themselves too.

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay but the guy is complaining that the dudes who are lying are some of the only ones getting to know the truth to begin with.

The honest conservative/religious man just doesn't get told about her past.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And if she says a number you like, and then you move forward with the relationship after pretending to be progressive? Then the relationship is still built on lies anyway. Surely the relationship will go well down the line /s

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Not to get closer, to gauge compatibility. So my intentions are much purer in this case.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 7 points8 points9 points 2 weeks ago (24 children) | Copy Link

You’re faking compatibility by pretending to have progressive views that presumably match hers. It’s literally the same.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Most people don't care about political or any other type of views when dating, so it barely affects anything.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (16 children) | Copy Link

If that was the case why would you need to lie about being progressive?????

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (15 children) | Copy Link

To get the required information.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (14 children) | Copy Link

But it contradicts what you said. So you're incorrect. People do care about political views and that's why you have to lie.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Women lie about their sexual past because they want to get long term commitment instead of being viewed as sluts for short term fun. That has nothing to do with politics.

[–]Corbast7Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

And you clearly have to lie about your values to get a woman to trust you in return, and trust is something people want in their committed relationships too. You are the male equivalent of the kind of woman you dislike.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 weeks ago   (6 children) | Copy Link

Not even close. I lie because I don't want to be duped, she lies because she wants to dupe me.

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 4 points 5 points 6 points 2 weeks ago   (5 children) | Copy Link

You’re speaking as a man who thinks politics don’t matter in dating because it doesn’t threaten you. A lot of women, especially of the younger gen, care a lot about political compatibility because of how it more directly impacts us.

A woman willing to lie to you probably tells herself the same thing because she doesn’t care about it. It’s no big deal to her, so what he doesn’t know won’t hurt him.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (4 children) | Copy Link

If she thought men didn't care about her past she wouldn't try to hide it and men wouldn't have to pretend to be non-judgemental as well, it'd be a win-win but she decided to make things more difficult.

Also lmfao at thinking politics affect women more. When was the last time women got drafted as a result of the country's political course?

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 4 points 5 points 6 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

And if you thought women didn’t care about politics then you wouldn’t try to hide what you believe…idk how this is hard for you to see the direct comparison lol.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't care about politics in itself, she only cares about the outcome of our interaction. If she knew I'd want to be in LTR with her regardless of my political beliefs she wouldn't care if I was right-wing - she just associates right-wing with sexual judgment in this case.

[–] Corbast7 Blue WOMAN / gen Z old hag / feminist + leftist 3 points 4 points 5 points 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh yeah sure dude, women famously would love to date conservative men as long as those conservative men want LTRs with us…Women only dislike conservative men because they’re prudish /s

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh you'd be surprised - women date men far worse than your stereotypical conservative as long as those men are good looking, confident or rich.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Has very much to do with politics.

I'm guessing you're a virgin who only wants ltr with another virgin. That makes sense. Good for you.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (3 children) | Copy Link

No it's just a mating strategy.

No, virgins are too much work.

[–] ThatBitchA ♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 3 points 4 points 5 points 2 weeks ago   (2 children) | Copy Link

Ah...so you're short term fun. Got it.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

No, but feel free to keep guessing.

[–] ThatBitchA ♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points 3 points 4 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm just using your own logic.

[–]bondepartPostgender Woman 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is clearly not true. Approx 75-85% of people end up in an LTR with someone of the same political affiliations.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That probably has more to do with simply being in proximity than rigid filtering. That's also why people typically date within their socioeconomic class and looks level despite wanting richer hotter people.

[–]bondepartPostgender Woman 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I dunno I don’t think many women would be willing to date a man who had fundamentally different views to them on abortion for instance

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Abortion is just a topic for rage baiting. When a guy actually knocks up a woman he didn't intend to he will immediately backtrack on his anti abortion copium.

[–]bondepartPostgender Woman 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And if he lives in a state it’s been criminalised there’ll be nothing he can do about it

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing except... moving to a different state.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Why are you asking someone about their past on a first date? Ew.

And why do you expect the truth when you're lying? Yuck.

No wonder women are staying single. Better to stay single then go on dates with men who lie.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (11 children) | Copy Link

To gauge compatibility. I thought women appreciate it when men care about stuff beyond looks?

I'm expecting the truth because I'm good at acting. I have to act because otherwise they'd lie to me.

What are you blabbering about? Most women are paired up.

[–]Holiday_Tap_4358 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

“I’m expecting the truth because I’m good at lying” 😂

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah what's not making sense here?

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Compatibility about what???

You're not acting. You're lying. If someone is lying to get the "truth", they don't deserve the truth. They deserve to be met with lying. Or as you call it, "acting".

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Sexual behavior, duh.

It's not about what you deserve, it's about what you can get.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) | Copy Link

"Sexual behavior" What does that even mean???

Certainly sounds like you're less focused on the actual person and just want sex. Ick.

Yes, if you're lying, you're definitely not getting anything quality.

I personally went for relationships that I deserve. I wasn't going to settle for "what you can get".

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It means a person's general attitude towards sex and sexual past, duh.

Keyword being "sounds like".

Just world fallacy.

How do you even know what one "deserves"? Will you be the arbiter of my worthiness?

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So you keep being intentionally vague. It makes zero sense. You can't answer the question.

I know what I deserve because I don't lie to obtain it.

So I hope you get the relationship you deserve.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It makes zero sense to you, doesn't mean it makes zero sense in general - you simply failed at comprehending it.

You're being intentionally vague. It makes zero sense. You can't answer the question - how do you determine what one "deserves"?

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing to comprehend. You can't answer my questions.

You determine what you deserve. And you've already said that, you deserve whatever you can get.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (1 child) | Copy Link

You're not making much sense. Earlier you said I don't deserve something because I "lie" to get it, now you're saying that I can determine what I deserve myself. So which is it?

[–] ThatBitchA ♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 weeks ago   (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (20 children) | Copy Link

it’s not working- needs better acting classes:

https://www.salon.com/2025/11/04/so-what-if-maga-lonely-hearts-never-find-love/

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU-vEnkiGzC/

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You missed the point, the Salon article is referring to guys who are honest about being MAGA Trump supporters getting swiped left on. The "out-and-proud racist/sexist/homophobe" as they call it.

The guys who lie about it don't have that problem.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If they aren’t having a problem then there wouldn’t be a “mail loner ness epidemimic”

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Some of the lonely men are honest conservatives and some aren't conservative at all.

It still doesn't prove your point about men being bad at lying.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well Pill/ppd/mammy-sphere are the ones that seem to always be the ones complaining AND using right wing talking points.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Yeah bad actors exist, more news at 11.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (14 children) | Copy Link

The “bad actors” are the norm on that side. Which is why they are all complaining.

This short will explain how the problem solves itself

https://youtube.com/shorts/bykUPSe4\_4I?si=3ws5ljiJcQn4xg3e

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Wait I thought you initially linked something like a poor cold approach or whatever, what on earth does any of your sources have to do with my comment lol?

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (12 children) | Copy Link

What did the last one say?

[–]Reasonable_Style8214Pro surgery man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Something about hating women.

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Oh so you didn’t watch it? Coo

Well it explains how the problem solves itself.

[–]Reasonable_Style8214 2 weeks ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

Sure, whatever you say bud.

[–]wtknightBlue-ish Married Passport Bro ♂︎[M] 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No contentless rhetoric

[–]Lift_and_Lurk 2 weeks ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

It has nothing to do with what I say. It has everything to do with that women have addressed and responded and young dudes are in the Find Out stage. And the “conserve-0-pill-shpere” seem unable to do anything about it.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (6 children) | Copy Link

Do you always start blabbering about unrelated abstract topics when you see a comment that triggers you?

[–] Lift_and_Lurk 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (5 children) | Copy Link

Ok so we are already at personal attacks because there is no way to refute: The cons are failing at faking it?

But with such great actors like dean cain and Kirk Cameron as mentors how can they possibly be sniffed out?!

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (4 children) | Copy Link

You realize you're helping my point right? If most people are failing at it, then the minority succeeding at it should be paid even more.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (3 children) | Copy Link

Most people aren’t failing, just lost the “con-pil-shpere” boys. All those Leftosts are feasting.

And as the 2nd clip I showed stated women’s viral response is “the male loneliness epidemic people don’t get: we can make them lonelier”

You point was destroyed by 2026 social media trends.

[–] Reasonable_Style8214 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (2 children) | Copy Link

You're just flip flopping on your point now - first you said most people fail at it, now you're saying a minority of people fail at it. Make up your mind son.

[–] Lift_and_Lurk 2 weeks ago [recovered]   (1 child) | Copy Link

No I said most “RP-con-peer” are failing and failing at acting from the begging and dropping receipts.

A fact that is irrefutable AND I showed the viral proof of the find out phase.

So “righty” boys can decide for themselves if they want to be alone playing “just with the boys” online, or drop that oh so sexy politics in dating mindset.

Let’s see what happens!

[–]Reasonable_Style82141 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't associate with RP so can't say much about that, I guess I'll trust your word on it.

If you think a clip of a random person ranting qualifies as irrefutable proof of something, you need to study some basic logic.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 3 points4 points5 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

It's Saturday!

Be the little promiscuous baddie your heart desires and go out and get laid!!

Use protection and get another notch on that belt.

[–]butttorp3do 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought this was skeletor

[–]butttorp3do [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Just go have some sex guy. 

Hey it's Saturday

Go have sex time today.

Guys I missed the bus for the is it Saturday or Tuesday. 

[–]butttorp3do1 point 2 weeks ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The bus driver  calls the cops and I wake up in a mental institution talking about 12 monkeys 

[–]Motosport_TitanBlue Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope! Staying home played videogames and now watching people play video games. It’s awesome inside!

[–]b_berry458 2 weeks ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Thoughts on ‘soft girl era’ trend?
Women who become more lazy intentionally.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In what context?

What does "soft girl" have to do with body count?

[–]b_berry458Purple Pill Woman 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The thread was renamed I swear LOL. Actually nm I’m dumbass

[–]growframeNo Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's their life at the end of day but it just comes off as loser-y to me

[–]b_berry458Purple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feels very online

[–]OffTheRedSandA love only the branch of a willow tree could conjure ♂️ -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (24 children) | Copy Link

virgin males are the equivalent of a high n-count woman.

i'm not saying they are their own match or should date just that they're seen the same by their target gender.

[–]SomerandomduderebornLvl 26 apprentice wizard 😎🪄, It is what it is pill 5 points6 points7 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True but imo being a high n-count woman is slightly more socially accepted

[–]competitive_moggerMan 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorta. But once again one has a much, much bigger impact on their dating life than the other.

N count matters irl, but typically when it comes to extremes. An older male virgin is one of those extremes, and it's much easier to sniff out.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree. I don't think most women think about virgins at all.

It does seem like some men think about promiscuous women a lot more. Usually out of jealousy they aren't having as much sex or those women aren't choosing those men for sex.

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every time a man is misogynistic a decent amount of online women respond by calling him an incel, even though there was no indication he lacks a sex life.

[–]Motosport_TitanBlue Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the second statement but disagree with the first. After a certain age people start question why no one is picking you or if they do why weren’t you in a ltr.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 -1 points0 points1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really. Especially after a certain age.

This is why context matters instead of binary thinking.

Humans are far more complex.

[–]Motosport_TitanBlue Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes but you said most women. If you tell most women who are from a culture that doesn’t encourage relationships outside of marriage and are over the age of 26-27, which is most women overall, that you’re a virgin or never been in a relationship then it raises red flags for them.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk. Maybe. Maybe not. 🤷‍♀️

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Its fine when they are young but when they are older its like yikes

[–]ProudvowRed Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's odd that you routinely argue against men being frustrated about being stuck virginal, while here outright asserting that virginity bad.

Obviously dudes aren't going to like being viewed negatively over something they can't do anything about.

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's odd that you routinely argue against men being frustrated about being stuck virginal,

No I don't lmao what. It's not "bad" its just kinda cringe

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) | Copy Link

At what age does it become yikes in your opinion?

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill -2 points-1 points0 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Past like 20

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oooffff

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

20 is so young

[–]Axis_ControlMeow Pill 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Naaa it's kinda a turn if if they are a virgin above like 19 really but not rly yikes

[–]Mysterious-Candy8615 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Brutal.

I remember when I was 18 years old I told a female acquaintance I was still a virgin. She couldn’t believe it and acted like I was some kind of monster. I was still a virgin until over age 30. Imagine women’s reaction if I would have been open about that lol. Eventually I looksmaxed and finally lost it; obviously I didn’t tell my virginity status to my hookup.

[–]OffTheRedSandA love only the branch of a willow tree could conjure ♂️ 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

when i was 18 i was sitting with a friend of a friend and she was from europe, don't know her age but probably older a bit.

idk how it came up but i told her i never have done anything with anyone before (true) and since she thought i was straight she gave me that "awww" look and it felt like a mix of pity and genuine surprise and awkwardness. like girl you asked 😭

i guess it's brutal for men but honestly i think with the younger generation it's probably a tiny bit better especially if you're not weird about your own virginty and how you say it.

[–]Mysterious-Candy8615 2 points3 points4 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women want a man that is already pre-validated by other women. Good luck getting that as an unattractive virgin.

[–]winter_lover28Casual>Relationship Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

100% true. For a gay guy, you know so many truth nukes about straight relationships.

[–]Just_Alternative3167Man 1 point2 points3 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His takes are a mix of brvtal trvth nvkes and strange ragebaits

[–]growframeNo Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree but it's usually PPD women who insist promiscuity is/should be viewed the same in both genders

[–]OffTheRedSandA love only the branch of a willow tree could conjure ♂️ 0 points1 point2 points 2 weeks ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i think ppd women are being genuine from their own POV but the issue with body count discussions is that they're extremely online.

IRL women and men will excuse high body count potential lovers if they're hot enough and they might not even know the body count.

but when it's brought up online everyone say their opinion without being in the relationship to make a decision while also discussing something rarely discussed IRL.

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[–]Moloc_AsterionBlue Pill Man [score hidden] 2 weeks ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

I am jealous of people that have higher n because they have more experience, I am ashamed of lacking it even if it stems from the fact I am not that attractive.

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