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Women liking lesbian porn more than big dick porn doesn't mean that they don't prefer watching big dick compared to average dick porn, not sure why you even tried to derail there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:24 PM
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I've seen even more women claim that big dicks hurt, hung guys are arrogant and lazy, not being able to fit it in the mouth is a turn off etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:22 PM
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Could be. But if you compare the amount of comments criticizing big dicks and big boobs you will see a clear difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:30 PM
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It’s like pointing out that men search up big tits more than women do. Men don't pretend to dislike big boobs tho, so it's a bad analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:34 PM
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It may be so depending on how you define big, but if you follow my second link it says women specifically search for big dick porn much more often than men do, not just watch a big dick porn category.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:01 PM
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Man don't make me cry with these stats. I can't drink alcohol because I wanna maintain my looks till we get cool anti-age AI powered shit 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:43 PM
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In that sense yeah, but we were talking about it in the context of watching porn so my initial comment was also related to porn preferences. Or have you never seen women claim that big dick is in porn mainly for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:40 PM
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Don't ask me, ask women who claim that men care about size more than women do or that big dick is a male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:28 PM
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In reality most women not only prefer it themselves, but they prefer it more than men do, even if women themselves like to claim that big dick is mainly a male fantasy. Watch the top 3 category Watch bottom 3 and 5
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:18 PM
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Hm, I actually thought misogyny is just prejudice / negative bias towards women rather than pure hatred, but I've just googled it and turns out hatred is actually included in the definition. I don't think it's possible to get laid if you have pure hatred towards all women - it would just be impossible to mask it long enough to get into bed with any of them even if you wanted to. I think maybe something like 0.1% of men actually hate women and those never get laid as they are too bitter and hatef…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:43 PM
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Shit, can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:45 PM
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good looking facial structure is mostly not genetic since it’s mostly determined by the maxilla’s position / good myofunctional habits Environmental factors help you fully realize your genetic potential, but they are far from being the main determinant of attractiveness - you're not gonna grow to 6'4 if parents gave you shit genes, doesn't matter how much protein and bone broth you gobble up in your formative years. And you're not gonna become a white guy if you were born indian or asian which c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:42 PM
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I thought women find pushing boundaries creepy and reject such men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:30 PM
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That sounds like black pill logic taken to the extreme. I'm telling you my experience. If you think real world experience and observations that match the black pill views are automatically wrong then idk, be more open minded perhaps? Are you arguing that a freshly graduated teenager who is attractive is made so overpowered by their looks (and this alleged positive feedback loop) that they could never be at a disadvantage You're thinking in the extremes. They have leverage over most people who do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:28 PM
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You think it's disagreeableness that gets them laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:25 PM
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I don't see how that makes sense. In that case they wouldn't have sex with them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:24 PM
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That's your experience, mine is the opposite - the attractive girls and guys in my class got into a positive feedback loop at like 14 years old and quickly built their confidence and self-esteem from there, they realized they had huge leverage even back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:59 PM
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If an attractive girl managed to go through high school without realizing she's privileged due to her looks, she's probably autistic or just low IQ which makes her not representative of average in our discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:14 PM
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Well, most of the time people in those relationships are trading looks for money and vice versa and nobody is scamming the other - that's not really a red flag because they both agree to it voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:02 PM
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You mean misanthrope?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 10:30 AM
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But it creates circumstances where manipulation, dependency and coercion can be much easier Depends on the gender. Young women have more leverage with older men due to being in high demand, young men have less leverage with older women. Old people also statistically fall for dating love scams as well as financial scams more often than young people, so the manipulation point is also moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 10:09 AM
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Only a tiny minority of men have the option to go for young women while being 50 themselves, we don't know how many of them would if each of them had a billion $ in their bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 10:01 AM
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Your comment seemed to imply that men are evil, while the reality is that people are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:47 AM
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Men going after younger women is balanced out by women taking financial advantage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:39 AM
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Sure, but women are more known to take advantage of men financially and that balances things out. Women are less physically capable, that's why they assault people less and rob less banks, not because they're kinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:35 AM
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Yeah but we've already established that men are evil for dating 18 year olds didn't we? I'm just explaining that it's human nature to be evil, not men's nature. It's about the law, not what people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:59 AM
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Because women like money. They flaunt their financial independence every time they get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:49 AM
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Dating a 18 year old is legal, stealing someone's money isn't, so your analogy is completely off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:45 AM
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And women of any age would rob a bank if they knew they could get away with it, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:34 AM
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Hot take - amongst sexually active hetero men demographic, male misogynists have a higher average N count than male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:31 AM
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Most people aren’t hot because of their genetics Yes they are. Skin color is genetics (white men and white / asian women are the most attractive to most people) , facial bone structure is genetics, skeletal structure is genetics (V-taper for men and hourglass figure for women). it’s more about whether you’re poor or not. It’s a privilege to have the time and money to be able to put so much consistent care into your diet, exercise, and sleep hygiene Whole foods are less expensive calorie for calo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:33 AM
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Women who are very conventionally beautiful didn’t just get braces or get enough sleep and exercise. Yes, the main factor is genetics as I said. As adults they also often do time consuming grooming on their face and body skincare, professional skin procedures, hair care, nail care, etc. to maintain the aesthetic they have Men also groom their face by either clean shaving or grooming their beard. Most men don't care one bit about fake nails. The only difference here is that yes, conventionally at…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:56 PM
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Could it be because women misrepresent how much they value those traits? Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:51 PM
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I don't expect women to pay for me because I had braces and cosmetic surgeries, you're looking for hipocrisy where there is none. 90% of maintaining your appearance comes down to sleep, diet and exercise, all of which are either free or cheap, the rest is down to your genetic quality, frauding which is somehow supposed to be compensated for according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:36 PM
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I reckon it's a mix of intrasexual competition and difficulties accepting the black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:30 PM
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The demographic of men that would benefit most from it (gen Z) has the least financial means to improve it, not to mention that the idea of facial attractiveness being important to women has only recently started entering mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:28 PM
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He's not a girl, a girl would virtue signal about how surgeries make men less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:15 PM
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Nothing in this world is guaranteed, but there's likely a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:33 AM
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You've presented 0 arguments, what credibility lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:27 AM
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In your opinion, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:11 AM
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Facts don't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:29 AM
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It's less about dating and more about the absurd notion that women don't need men, meanwhile the first thing they do when real shit goes down is use the modern infrastructure or services that were designed and are currently being operated by men. Even the reason they can put food on the table is because evil patriarchy built the modern economic system which allows them to trade their mental labor for physical goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:26 AM
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Why are women so obsessed with the idea that men don't know what women find attractive? It's almost like mantra at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:21 AM
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If you want casual, you need to maximize shoulders to waist ratio, which generally means prioritizing side delts, upper chest and lats training in that order while being at low body fat percentage. But really, the only way to know for sure is creating a bunch of fake profiles on tinder and comparing the amount of matches between different physiques - you will probably have to use AI tho since the face has to stay the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:55 AM
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Most men who overrate themselves quickly get a reality check after getting rejected by more attractive women. Women on the other hand still get to sleep with men out of their league which messes up with their ability to accurately assess their attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:49 AM
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For me it's the opposite - unless a woman likes my body before getting to know me it's not real attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:40 AM
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Your body is a part of who you are and speaking from experience, being objectified by good looking people feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:26 AM
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Hold on bud let me womansplain strength to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:21 AM
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He should pull a woman and say "I don't care about looks babe, my dick responds to personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:20 AM
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That fast huh, shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:59 AM
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And mine doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:59 AM
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Being on reddit subs discussing looks of people you'll never meet is a waste of time in any case, so I wouldn't stress about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:58 AM
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I said grannies, not older women who're still on the dating market. It can be for some, that doesn't refute my earlier argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:57 AM
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Chadfish experiments for all you idiot bloops : r/PurplePillDebate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:55 AM
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I believe this pic was used in a chadfish experiment where he had something diabolical written in his bio and the first message he sent out but he got tons of matches and female simps regardless. More proof that men have a very good idea of what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:52 AM
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So essentially you're spending time on misrepresenting your genetic quality for selfish reasons. How does that make men owe women compensation again?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:48 AM
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That's with a pump and good lighting. If he walked on the street wearing non-tight fit clothes most people wouldn't think anything special of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:45 AM
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Are you really that self-centered that you thought he wanted to have casual sex with you specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:43 AM
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Face is more important everywhere lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:41 AM
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"Eating mcdonds" is a collective for all the unhealthy habits including poor diet, lack of exercise etc which are the main determining factors of health, not skincare. Discussing men in this context makes no sense because the entire thread is about women and because "the wall" argument mainly refers to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:37 AM
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Do you see grannies using those products? Partnered women use those things because they know they will need it if they break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:19 AM
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What? The vast majority of consumers of anti-age products are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:17 AM
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Covering skin inflammation caused by eating McDonalds with serums and makeup isn't health care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:55 AM
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They wouldn't spend money on anti-age products if they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:50 AM
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But they start having problems finding ATTRACTIVE men willing to commit to them at a certain age. This is their version of being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:46 AM
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Tattoos on a woman is a red flag - it shows she's likely an impulsive wannabe special who tends to make poor long term decisions. Just imagine what those are gonna look like when she gets older and her skin loses elasticity and starts sagging. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:40 AM
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She could tell it based on his looks? Bluepillers really are something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:27 AM
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Women go for men who are either better looking or higher earner than themselves and expect those men to also do chores for some reason - if doing chores is such a burden, you can always go for less attractive men who don't have enough leverage to refuse doing those chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:16 AM
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A man is no more equipped to fight off a predator than a woman or a child is, since all large predatory animals are stronger than the strongest man. LMFAO, men didn't hunt predators by arm wrestling with them - it was more about not going into panic mode and sticking to the plan. They also mainly hunted with spears which mostly negated the strength difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:26 AM
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So some men built a bridge and fought off a bear in the last century, therefore all men should be able to claim credit as if they did it themselves, while they do nothing on the couch and ignore their children. So some women's grand grandmothers were oppressed a couple of centuries ago, therefore all women should have special privileges today as if they were the ones who were oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:18 AM
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The naturally asexual men simply don't date so they don't have anyone to tell that to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:17 PM
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In the same place where you heard that they are inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:02 AM
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Typing that in the bio on social media ain't easy enough for you? As I said, most men simply don't care about being performatively special.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:00 AM
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It's just a way for attention whores to feel special. Being a heterosexual person feels boring to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:21 AM
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Even if we assume that me and other men are inexperienced, feel free to read comments from women on this sub saying they expect a man to cover the check.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:17 AM
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Men generally don't care about identity nonsense, luckily.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:15 AM
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Yeah and she will likely expect you to pay for it all despite previously having sex with guys who didn't have to do shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:52 PM
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Yeah I can tell you're not following. You pay for sex with a hooker directly, you pay for sex with a reformed slut indirectly by financing your mutual activities before you have sex for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:18 PM
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Sure, just as soon as women start saying "I will only treat you well if you're good looking and tall, otherwise you will have to earn my good will."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:10 PM
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Women have more than enough social competency to get it, they just refuse to accept it because it upsets them and they view it as "non-progressive" thinking or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:06 PM
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Corporations can't print money, that's on the fed. Lol - the point is payments don't always happen directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:58 PM
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Oh you'd be surprised - women date men far worse than your stereotypical conservative as long as those men are good looking, confident or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:56 PM
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Ah yes. You probably think inflation is also a thing that "just happens" and it's not the government indirectly stealing your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:53 PM
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They could've had sex or they could not have - it doesn't really matter in this case, unless you wanna try to make a feeble case of hypocrisy. High is somewhat subjective. For me it is anything higher than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:51 PM
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It doesn't have anything to do with what I think. Women themselves demand additional investments from those losers after having care free sex in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:50 PM
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She doesn't care about politics in itself, she only cares about the outcome of our interaction. If she knew I'd want to be in LTR with her regardless of my political beliefs she wouldn't care if I was right-wing - she just associates right-wing with sexual judgment in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:14 PM
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The true losers are men who pay for something others got for free and in a better shape. High N count women definitely have their advantages tho not gonna deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:09 PM
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If she thought men didn't care about her past she wouldn't try to hide it and men wouldn't have to pretend to be non-judgemental as well, it'd be a win-win but she decided to make things more difficult. Also lmfao at thinking politics affect women more. When was the last time women got drafted as a result of the country's political course?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:02 PM
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No, but feel free to keep guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:00 PM
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Nothing except... moving to a different state.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:45 PM
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Not even close. I lie because I don't want to be duped, she lies because she wants to dupe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:44 PM
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Abortion is just a topic for rage baiting. When a guy actually knocks up a woman he didn't intend to he will immediately backtrack on his anti abortion copium.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:42 PM
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No it's just a mating strategy. No, virgins are too much work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:31 PM
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Women lie about their sexual past because they want to get long term commitment instead of being viewed as sluts for short term fun. That has nothing to do with politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:23 PM
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To get the required information.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:21 PM
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That probably has more to do with simply being in proximity than rigid filtering. That's also why people typically date within their socioeconomic class and looks level despite wanting richer hotter people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:21 PM
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Most people don't care about political or any other type of views when dating, so it barely affects anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:02 PM
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I don't associate with RP so can't say much about that, I guess I'll trust your word on it. If you think a clip of a random person ranting qualifies as irrefutable proof of something, you need to study some basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:01 PM
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You're just flip flopping on your point now - first you said most people fail at it, now you're saying a minority of people fail at it. Make up your mind son.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:37 PM
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Not to get closer, to gauge compatibility. So my intentions are much purer in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:35 PM
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You realize you're helping my point right? If most people are failing at it, then the minority succeeding at it should be paid even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:33 PM
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Yeah what's not making sense here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:19 PM
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You're not making much sense. Earlier you said I don't deserve something because I "lie" to get it, now you're saying that I can determine what I deserve myself. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:19 PM
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It makes zero sense to you, doesn't mean it makes zero sense in general - you simply failed at comprehending it. You're being intentionally vague. It makes zero sense. You can't answer the question - how do you determine what one "deserves"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:16 PM
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Do you always start blabbering about unrelated abstract topics when you see a comment that triggers you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:09 PM
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It means a person's general attitude towards sex and sexual past, duh. Keyword being "sounds like". Just world fallacy. How do you even know what one "deserves"? Will you be the arbiter of my worthiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:05 PM
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Sure, whatever you say bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:03 PM
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Sexual behavior, duh. It's not about what you deserve, it's about what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:58 PM
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To gauge compatibility. I thought women appreciate it when men care about stuff beyond looks? I'm expecting the truth because I'm good at acting. I have to act because otherwise they'd lie to me. What are you blabbering about? Most women are paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:54 PM
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Something about hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:51 PM
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Wait I thought you initially linked something like a poor cold approach or whatever, what on earth does any of your sources have to do with my comment lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:44 PM
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Still worthy enough to trigger a self-proclaimed intellectual lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:40 PM
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You're projecting bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:35 PM
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Yeah bad actors exist, more news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:34 PM
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The fact that you have to pretend to be a far leftie with "progressive" sex views in order to get a girl to open up even a little about her past on the first date is annoying af - men should be paid for being such good actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:15 PM
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I gave you an example to illustrate my point, you offered a counter point followed by me correcting you and suddenly it's moving the goalpost? Would me agreeing with you be staying on the goalpost then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:25 PM
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If we're talking why men are not attracted to women, how knowledge that "everyone sucks" will help People are actually more inclined to pursue people of their looks level, so your following argumentation is based on a wrong premise. A 3/10 would be more likely to find a 3/10 attractive than a 7/10 would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:03 PM
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I'll give you a simple example. Let's say I have an issue with women in US - most of them are fat. What do you think would be an appropriate response to that? Is it to agree that most women are physically flawed and criticize them for it or is it to bring up the fact that obesity stats are actually similar for both genders and therefore it's unreasonable to criticize women in that aspect?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:30 AM
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Men who invest an undue amount of time and energy trying to extract sex from as many women as possible are just trying to feed their own egos, which will never be satisfied. That's just biology - and it does reward the brain with feel-good hormones upon success.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:13 AM
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Why do you view it as manipulation? Maybe it's actually a way for people to accept whatever they're criticizing as normal since both genders do it and therefore it is unlikely to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:10 AM
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Yeah, I said women virtue signal more than men, to which you said you're educated and from detroit, whatever that's supposed to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:52 AM
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Do you have a dataset or a study instead of an article? From my experience it's the opposite in all aspects, for example 65% of Americans believe they are above average in intelligence: Results of two nationally representative surveys - PMC
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:06 AM
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Oh, you think those things make you special and smart? Sheee.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:03 AM
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I would say that my boyfriend and I are probably looks matched, I apologize unironically, you might be in the minority of self-aware women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:42 AM
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i constantly see short guys hitting it off with girls with zero issues Hitting it off with less attractive / fatter girls yes. All the best looking girls typically date taller guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:40 AM
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How odd, you'd think that tall people are rare... I guess not when it comes to the world of successful dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:39 AM
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Yeah it's like those women who think that if a man isn't romantically interested in them he must be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:33 AM
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Okay rate them out of 10, then rate yourself (without makeup, high waisted jeans, pushup bra, good angles, filters etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:29 AM
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Ah you're one of those people who think having a degree makes you special and smart. Rough city.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:26 AM
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Is that something you made up on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:44 PM
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I wasn't talking about you, I was talking in generalities. Also, women view most men as below average looking, so there's a high chance the "ugly" guy you're referring to isn't actually ugly at all as it is in most cases. And it's also normal to know yourself less than other people do - that's why lots of people go to therapy after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:41 PM
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Really? How did you manage to miss out on education?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:40 PM
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That's what all women say to virtue signal, but when they actually get approached by an ugly guy irl they behave differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:03 PM
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I mean, would you listen to me if I told you men never lie to get sex and you should trust everything they tell you? Same thing applies vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:01 PM
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Homophobia is much worse than rudeness yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:04 PM
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A “hot” guy with a shitty/boring/uncaring/dumb/etc. personality isn’t “hot” anymore. Women will still consider him hot due to the halo effect - a hot shy guy is cute, an ugly shy guy is weird; a hot confident guy is decisive, an ugly confident guy is creepy etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:01 PM
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We are actually not shallow; that’s men who sexualize and fetishized women for their beauty Women are just as shallow, they just like to virtue signal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:59 PM
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Most people choose to do whatever brings them more profit, water is wet type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:52 PM
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Wasting money? Someone's projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:22 PM
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How does money impact strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:28 PM
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How does money impact strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:50 PM
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There are other reasons: status, strength, confidence, life experience to name a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:42 PM
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That every woman enters age gap relationships for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:29 PM
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Mad about you having had sex for money? Not likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:20 PM
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Holy projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:17 PM
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It has a correlation with IQ but it's not what I said anyway - read the comment again and pay closer attention to the words and their meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:27 PM
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My apologies, I didn't realize your comments also have an expiration date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:24 PM
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I was at a family gathering today and noticed how the women wanted to talk about this and that with one another, meanwhile the men were mostly sitting to the side and chatting about very task-oriented things like horse betting and car engines and shit Yeah, the thing is it's MUCH easier to have non-superficial, moderate to high IQ talks with guys. For example, I recently read a book on habit formation and when we gathered at my friend's place to play DnD (about 15 people) guess how many girls ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:03 PM
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There are lots of guys who also like to wear clothes that show skin and emphasise their muscular bodies in order to look attractive to gals. Like what? You can't show much skin as a guy beyond your calves, arms and neck regardless of the clothes you wear. If you mean tight clothes, then those are more suited for gym compared to baggy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:51 PM
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It doesn't mean what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:48 PM
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No, they just have less reason to be a good partner because women like them either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:46 PM
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> If living with a man, by default, is an incredibly bad deal and likely to get you screwed over, it's only logical to look for traits that indicate that you'll be less likely to be screwed over. It's very valid to point that out. It doesn't make sense - a man's height can't screw a woman over, it just affects how attracted she is to him in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:45 PM
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It's a symptom of the problem, not the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:24 PM
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Then we would have definitely seen a female version of Tate be even MORE POPULAR than Tate. I was explaining why there's no female loneliness epidemic, not Tate. Congratulations. You just explained why people specifically focus on men. No, I just explained why there's no female Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:11 PM
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What's the percentage of them vs those who ask for honesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:40 AM
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Right, but again, men are more honest about what they prioritize and prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:28 AM
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I've never seen Female Loneliness Epidemic being talked about in the news. I have never heard women make a female equivalent of Andrew Tate popular Because society has much lower social standards for women so they struggle socially less. And because society panders to women's issues, therefore they feel heard and aren't as prone to radicalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:25 AM
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Not a lot more, slightly more. I've explained previously how facial attractiveness is largely objective with a small amount of subjectivity involved at the very top of attractiveness scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:44 PM
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Yes, and the more good features you have the more people will find you attractive. Eh, people have been using terms like tall / short, rich / poor just fine without having to define a specific demographic since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:56 PM
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To you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:23 AM
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Women in any country can choose to date local men, they just choose not to because white passport bros are more physically attractive to them and have more money. Passport bros don't get handed slave women upon their arrival.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:23 AM
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Women of all races prefer white men, it's not just about money and sometimes it's not even the main aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:21 AM
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Not exotic, most women simply prefer white men regardless of their own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:20 AM
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It's not just US dollars. If you're a white guy you will have an enormous advantage in an asian country where your competition is primarily asian men without taking financial aspect into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:19 AM
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I wrote it in plain english.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:16 AM
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Women prioritize man's money over a man's profession, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:14 AM
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Conservative women are less likely to have tattoos, piercings, green / blue / purple hair, body hair etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:12 AM
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It's stupid to think that everyone will give you honest and ready answer. It's part of socialization to see this and navigate this. He navigated that well by identifying lies. Or should he just trust women's words by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:09 AM
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Just like some women think that because their grand grand mother wes oppressed they deserve privileges now? Tell me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:37 AM
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Faces only become subjective starting at roughly 7/10 on the scale, where some people will prefer softer / more feminine looking faces and some people will prefer rougher / more masculine looking faces. The base parameters, e.g. skin quality, facial symmetry, harmony etc. are all universal. 99.9% of people will prefer a well developed jaw over a recessed jaw, clear skin over acne ridden skin etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:33 AM
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Only a small percentage of radical blackpillers believe that being short means you can never experience genuine desire. The actual rational truth that most men come to is short guys have to date less attractive women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:28 AM
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What are you even arguing? I said looks help in ALL social situations, not just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:25 AM
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For succeeding in social situations, which includes dating. You can do both indeed, but you have to give priority to the best ROI activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:04 PM
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If the reason didn't matter you wouldn't state it to begin with. Improving social skills is obviously a good thing but doesn't have as much ROI as improving looks for example, so it's not a universally good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:47 PM
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I didn't disagree that men struggle more than women, I disagreed with your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:38 PM
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Yeah looksmaxxing doesn't quite capture the strategy at its core, which is frauding your genetic quality at the end of the day. Women's biological goal is securing best genes for their offspring, so wearing makeup is quite literally useless if you're a guy because it's immediately known. Sneakily wearing shoe lifts however, increases your appeal. Getting a natural looking result from surgery and not disclosing it again increases your appeal. The goal for guys is to appear to have the best geneti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:34 PM
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Young women are the same, society simply has lower standards for women and they can get away with a lot more social mistakes than men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:26 PM
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Yes, I'd say it only applies to far left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:23 PM
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First you said they'd still be trans in a social vacuum, now you're talking about different cultures which is not the same. We need records of hermits becoming trans for your argument to be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:22 PM
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Trans people would still desire changes to their body in a (mostly) social vacuum So you base your entire argument on a hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:17 AM
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I never said you hate men, I said you way underrate men's personalities and way overrate women's personalities. I am thinking the issue is guys really underestimate how attractive they have to be for enough women to tolerate their awful personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:15 AM
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Our experiences are different then. It's not uncommon for leftists to shame men for preferring hairless bodies for instance from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:12 AM
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Women would prefer men to be more "convenient" for relationships. Attractive men ready for sex are always at arms reach on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:43 PM
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Women's stated and revealed preferences are not the same. In general, women are not interested in helping men get laid left and right, they are interested in training desirable men to be convenient to have relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:41 PM
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It's usually done by leftists who pretend to think that it's immoral to be attracted to high-maintenance / conventionally attractive traits. They of course are still going to jerk off to or sleep with people possessing those traits, but them social approval points and reddit karma ain't gonna farm itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:32 PM
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They are usually focusing on forming conventionally attractive traits which is what most women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:05 PM
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It's not an argument, it's a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:04 PM
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You've lost the plot bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:02 PM
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Yes, watching one to find the moments of their failure does indeed qualify as watching them. Logic 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:21 PM
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I never said insecurity means "knows something cannot be done", I went off of your definition which is "I can live with it as is but it'd be better off improving it" according to what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:20 PM
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I mean he DID say anyone with a brain would know it’s a scam….. And yet you continue watching him. Hopefully you can deduce what that says about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:03 PM
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I never said it does - take reading comprehension classes. I simply extrapolated your logic to other areas of life. Washing means you're insecure about your smell. Makeup means you're insecure about your skin. Push up bras mean you're insecure about your breasts. Having a job means you're insecure about your ability to build a business or live off government benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:01 PM
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What are you blabbering about son? You need to touch grass and watch less online slop - he doesn't even know of your existence and you're thinking about him all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:47 PM
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No, saying that people are insecure is redundant because everyone who isn't a jobless, unhygienic, useless slob is insecure by default according to your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:43 PM
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I'm rather intelligent so I only make conclusions based on hard data, i.e. what's the percentage of successful approaches, failed approaches and the total approaches he ever made in his career, and the comparison to an average man who doesn't do looksmaxxing. Without all that data all you can have is a typical low IQ conversation where you try make conclusions based on flashy clips like a typical normie. You don't have any of the aforementioned data and therefore we can only measure his financia…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:41 PM
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If that's the case, then 90%+ of women are insecure. Considering how common it is, pointing out the alleged insecurity for getting plastic surgery seems kinda... redundant? It's like going outside and pointing out that the sky is blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:34 PM
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You can view creator's stats without watching them. It's not rocket science. You cherrypicked a couple of clips of him failing. It's impossible to have 100% success rate with women with the amount of approaches he does - that's how numbers game works. How is him getting rejected a few times related to the financial success he obtained through looksmaxxing? You're making less and less sense and I'm beginning to doubt you're worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:22 PM
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Lol, no problem. Are women who do skin care / wear fat push up bras / makeup / hair extensions insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:17 PM
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It's a very significant portion of couples. And you haven't responded to the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:15 PM
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We? Most of the time when I see a woman talk about male looksmaxxing they say that those men are insecure / don't understand female gaze / looksmaxxing won't help them get girls / they need to improve their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:13 PM
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I don't even watch Clav lol and I can't imagine how miserable one has to be to genuinely follow him. I never said I'm doing better than Clav, that's something you hallucinated yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:11 PM
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You haven't answered if wishing your salary was higher is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:09 PM
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It worked out for everyone involved - I get 5x the matches I used to a few years ago and with much more attractive girls. Clav is making more money in a month that you do in a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:04 PM
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He also said he was gonna do leg lengthening surgery - guess what, it's all said to dupe normies who fall for flashy quotes and take everything literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:01 PM
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What exactly is a scam? Orthodontics / skincare / dieting / working out / cosmetic surgeries?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:59 PM
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Looksmaxxing is a part of self-improvement, so no I haven't transformed anything. Yeah you also study to advance in your career because you dislike having average salary and wish it was higher - is studying insecure too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:57 PM
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It worked out for me. Grift or scam is how lazy people justify staying mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:55 PM
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Even Clav doesn't say that - he says among the defining factors looks are the easiest for an average person to improve - wealth is much harder to ahieve for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:51 PM
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Qoves, Rorz, K Shami, Aesthetics Waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:49 PM
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Yeah neurodivergence doesn't help with attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:47 PM
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Women love guys who are genetically good looking, not those who achieved good looks with effort - they view it as trying hard and frauding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:46 PM
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Because that's what gets attention from normies, not because it's what actually is effective for improving looks. Still super risky. Self-improvement isn't insecure, that's an assumption on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:45 PM
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That's not looksmaxxing, that's being dumb. Gender transition also involves that, with an addition of cutting your dick off. There are levels to stigmatization. Males are shamed much more. Nobody is owed a party for getting work done indeed. But nobody should be shamed for improving their looks either, but women do it all the time and call it such men insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:38 PM
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No thats a common take here. Even if that is so (I haven't been reading it much lately), this sub isn't representative of average people. Ariana Grande is a cunt but she still gets men. Jeremy Meeks is a criminal and still gets women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:34 PM
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This sub has a few people with unconventional takes, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that they are supported by general trends outside of niche reddit communities. I would appreciate more substance in your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:22 PM
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Looksmaxxers - at least all the influencers- are on illicit substances and pursing alt medicine. Clav is on substances because he's an introverted neurodivergent whose primary source of income is centered around recording himself being in public places talking to people, but he's not "all influencers". No one really cares if you want to lose weight and get a nose job. More power to ya. Losing weight? Sure. Male cosmetic surgeries are extremely stigmatized tho, pretending otherwise is very dising…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:04 PM
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When people talk about looksmaxxing, they mostly talk about softmaxxing. Hardmaxxing is pretty niche and socially stigmatized, so it would be weird to think that it's more popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:59 AM
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It's related to the OP and I wasn't talking about you, I was talking in generalities just as you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:47 AM
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Most couples form online so that's a questionable take. Also one is yet to explain why the type of men collecting most matches doesn't correlate with the type of men most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:42 AM
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you probably haven't seen or haven't paid attention to how men talk about and treat fat women About the same as women talk about and treat short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:35 AM
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We can even disregard that gaining muscle, losing fat, fixing your bite etc. makes you more healthy. But even purely cosmetically, being better looking makes you more mentally healthy - just compare an average personality of a person who grew up as an uggo vs an average personality of someone who grew up good looking. Viewing wanting to be more attractive to others as something negative is also laughable. Gender transition is also more risky than 99% of looksmaxxing advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:21 AM
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Genuinely OP i hate u and i hope your next dating endeavors are wildly unsuccessful. And that is why men shouldn't take dating advice from women. Women don't want men to success, they want themselves and other women to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:05 AM
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What could be funnier than watching a bluepilled liberal tie themselves in knots in attempt to explain why looksmaxxing is unhealthy and bad but gender transition is wholesome and empowering?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:57 AM
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The issue is women attach negative personality traits to men who say things that upset them. They also way overestimate how pleasant their own personalities are in comparison to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:53 AM
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He drowned because he lacked stamina. The solution is to do more cardio, not stopping lookxmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:51 AM
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Looks are cool but focusing only on them is why so many young men today are struggling. Most men in US are overweight, how are they "only focusing on looks" if they fail to meet the most basic looks standard, i.e. being at optimal weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:49 AM
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It's a very socially acceptable narrative that men tolerate all kinds of shit from hot women. It only causes issues and incel accusations when the reverse is said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:47 AM
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You can't get laid based on dick size alone, just like a man won't date a woman based on her nose shape alone. Doesn't mean those things aren't important.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:45 AM
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For the generalization to be challengeable your argument has to apply to a significant % of the population. A few millions out of 100s of millions isn't a significant enough %.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:40 AM
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You're not challenging their broad claim, you're appealing to exceptions. Challenging him would be saying something like "western people are not privileged compared to eastern people".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:45 PM
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The comment was in response to the OP. So those 2 people were discussing general trends and you went in with the individual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:39 PM
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The claim was in response to the OP, so again general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:05 PM
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The OP is about country, or rather hemisphere level trends, not an individual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:56 PM
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Growing up in a Western country doesn’t mean someone’s life has been privileged. It does it the vast majority of cases and people usually discuss things based on general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:41 PM
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Men tell women that they are worthless unless they are skinny, pretty, and 25. Don't worry - women think of men the same way with the addition of financial success, they just virtue signal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:41 PM
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have crippling insecurity Yet they want a confident man. Talk about double standards lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:27 AM
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In my experience it does, yours could be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:04 AM
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No, I meant objectification as you described. let's say a man you find repugnant, sees you as a disposable hole, a really cute, adorable, arousing disposable hole for his sexual gratification, and then to obviously be tossed aside when you're hole is no longer interesting enough, you would be....flattered? Just replace a man with an attractive woman; it works the same way for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:54 AM
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I was objectified and I liked it. You don't realize the true reason you dislike being objectified is because it's done but an unattractive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:43 AM
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Ignoring the fact that in most cases "objectification" boils down to some guy sexualizing a random half naked woman on the internet, I literally said in the very first comment that the objectified needs to be attractive for it to be pleasant and we were discussing sexual objectification, since that's what women complain about and is the point of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:39 AM
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I said the person needs to be attractive in the very first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:33 AM
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Could also be that whatever you think it entails is in fact your fantasies. Something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:19 PM
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Yeah except in most cases you can't prove that there is contempt, making the objectification claim invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:16 PM
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You claimed nobody wants to feel like an object and I debunked your theory, what's there to realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:13 PM
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People not liking to be objectified by someone they don't find attractive isn't news? That's what I just said. Perhaps it's new to you that there are people who don't like being objectified even by attractive people Hence I said "usually".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:13 PM
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At this stage in my life idc, but I guess it would be preferrable at the settling down age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:54 PM
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Usually the reason is not the objectification itself but the unattractiveness of the objectifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:48 PM
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I get enjoyment out of being sexually desirable in itself. That said, in most cases when someone says objectification on the internet it simply means sexual attraction but through a modern buzzword since women like being victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:46 PM
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Used sexually, yes, since that's the topic of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:30 PM
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I consider myself a part of people and I love getting objectified, provided the objectification is done by an attractive person, that's what really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:07 PM
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No, the worst advice would be to get worse looking and that's why so many men are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:04 PM
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Money doesn't come from thin air, it comes from physical resources my body expends in exchange for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:09 PM
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My body my choice should also apply to paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:46 PM
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Don't let anyone nut in you if you don't want to have a baby. The law should either allow a man to refuse paying child support or ban abortions to equalize things. Yes, same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:09 PM
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It takes 2 to make a baby, yet only 1 gets to decide its fate. Also, women make the decision to babytrap and get child support nearly every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:50 AM
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There aren't any dots there to connect, you probably meant to reply to someone else's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:56 PM
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A woman can decide if a baby is born or not, a man is always at a woman's mercy in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:05 PM
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It's only suited for logically valid discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:04 PM
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Yes, you got that right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:59 PM
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Not sure what that's supposed to be a response to but alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:58 PM
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You're not legally obliged to have kids. The rest is self-explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:57 PM
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I worded my statements very simply and concisely, so if you can't understand them that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:55 PM
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What aspect of my statement(s) requires explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:54 PM
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Yes, that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:53 PM
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So basically appealing to emotions instead of logic, how predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:52 PM
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So? It's still optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:49 PM
1

That is a better wording to get your point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:49 PM
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Physiological, not psychological lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure sex is not a need as women like to tell men. It's also likely that most of the unwanted pregnancies happen due to not using proper protection but that's more arguable I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:45 PM
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That's not reproductive burden, that's physiological burden. I have testosterone burden too in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:43 PM
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Undercutting how?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:41 PM
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But you don't agree that motherhood is optional? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:41 PM
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Reproductive burden is optional and you have more reproductive rights than a man does. Orgasm gap exists because most women are passive in bed while most men put in effort to achieve orgasm. Motherhood is optional. Beauty standards exist on both sides and men's are more tied to genetics than women's, e.g. height vs weight. Physical weakness is not that big of a deal since there are guns and other equalizers. I wouldn't wanna be a woman tho due to a narrower fertility window.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:35 PM
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And vice versa. Can you link the stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:44 PM
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Only 30% of men are single, so 70% of men are dating someone right at this moment. Attractive women date attractive men, an average guy will be invisible to them most of the time. What % of men in elder care facilities are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:46 PM
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I know what you meant, and I was responding to the relevant version. If most men are dating fat or ugly or old women, then men don't have the high standards you claim they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:58 PM
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This is not a fact. You can tell by looking at actual dating couples; loads of women are not with “top 80%” men. You realize you just debunked your previous point considering that most men also date average (fat or ugly) women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:29 AM
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Women want taller men more than men want shorter women I mostly agree with that point, but most women will still be more pleased to find out that the guy they got into bed with is bigger than average. Penetrative sex is still extremely important to women. Men can reach an orgasm without boobs, ass and even face - it doesn't mean those things don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:25 PM
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All the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:18 PM
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The reason why most women do not waste time thinking or caring about this is because the size of a man’s penis does not correlate to how good a partner or lover he is, how good the sex will be, how good the relationship will be If that was the case women also wouldn't waste time caring about height, but that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:45 AM
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Most women don't prefer average anything - be it height, face, income or dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:43 AM
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So, same as women and makeup, hair extensions, boobs, ass etc then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:41 AM
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Can you provide examples? Not sure what redpill has to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:22 PM
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Men are pretty open about it, virtue signaling about sexual preferences is typically a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:58 PM
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So, same as women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:43 PM
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A man cheating on a woman would not be a big deal in most cases if women knew how male sexuality works tbh. In most cases he won't remember the chick in a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:13 AM
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Covering the check is one of the least effective ways to stand out for a guy. First off, if a better looking more charismatic guy turns up she will most likely pick him even if he never paid for her as opposed to you. Second of all, you have to do that every time you go on a date with each woman, meanwhile investing that money into yourself gives you a permanent attractiveness bonus without having to spend any money on individual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:40 AM
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However, what’s to stop a man that is super interested in a woman from paying for the dates and thus, setting himself apart from all the other men going 50/50? My point is that competition disrupts a 50/50 rule because someone that is super interested is going to try to stand out. Covering the check is one of the least effective ways to stand out for a guy. First off, if a woman finds a better looking more charismatic guy than you she will most likely pick him even if he never pays for her. Seco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:37 AM
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By your logic everyone should ask Elon Musk for life advice, but redditors lose their shit when someone speaks positively of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:15 AM
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Women: "Confidence, compatibility, humor, shared values, emotional intelligence, physical attraction, and a hundred other factors." Men: "No, you actually only care about height." That's a strawman, women just don't like when someone brings up actual data proving that women lie about their preferences and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:14 AM
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Women aren't ready for it either - they get really upset when a concept of looksmatch is brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:58 AM
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I'm 2 steps ahead of you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:52 AM
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Neither did you following your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:45 PM
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No it's because sex is just more enjoyable than most things in this world, at least to some people due to their brain chemistry - you'll just have to accept that somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:43 PM
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Two things can be true at the same time - ice coffee is validating but sex with attractive women is even more validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:43 PM
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Your comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:40 PM
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Yes, a ton of people try to show off with the exotic stuff they eat or the places they eat in. You won't see women criticizing that though. You also haven't explained why seeking validation from sex specifically is trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:40 PM
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It it supposed to prove that the very first sentence of the comment I was responding to is wrong according to women themselves. Or do you not trust women's words?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:37 PM
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Stop playing the victim, nobody is blaming women. Most of the time they just got unlucky with genetics, it's not anybody's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:40 PM
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Not sure how you arrived to that conclusion, care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:39 PM
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People do all those things for both ego and enjoyment, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:32 PM
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If their insecurities come from being unattractive to women, then that would fix those.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:31 PM
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People do all of the aforementioned things for both ego and enjoyment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:30 PM
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Yet there's not a single argument why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:30 PM
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Enjoy. https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-husbands-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:51 PM
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Do you have any idea how much dopamine you get from sex, let alone sex with different women as a man? Do you know what Coolidge effect is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:50 PM
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Do you have any idea how much dopamine you get from sex, let alone sex with different women as a man? Do you know what Coolidge effect is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:50 PM
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What makes it fragile in comparison to, idk striving to visit lots of countries or try lots of food?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:26 PM
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Yes, that's kind of my point. The comment I originally responded to said "genuinely likeable", implying that there are guys with objectively likeable personalities, so I just made fun of the general narrative coming from women where they have diverse physical preferences but somehow they all agree on who's a good guy personality wise and who isn't lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:34 AM
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If it is, then you can't determine if someone's personality is genuinely likeable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:49 PM
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Genuinely? What happened to "AtTracTivNeSs iS SubJecTiVe"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:06 PM
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Idk what you were trying to say then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:52 AM
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just because women can get in relationships doesn't mean they get good relationships. they're being settled for with males who do the bare minimum just to get sex. Subpar looking men also get settled for, that's how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:16 AM
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Women want high tier men and high tier men select for best looking women, that's why looks matter from women's POV. How you get treated in a relationship depends on the qualities you prioritize in a partner, not on your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:14 AM
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I've been respectful to you until you started being condescending. By your logic if I meet 1 woman who reflects my negative attitude I should start disliking all women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:06 AM
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You can think that your permission means anything to me if that makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:03 AM
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No, not really. Doesn't sound like an opinion to me, so I had to clarify that. When the discussion is based on opinions and not data you usually elaborate on why you think your opinion makes sense, like I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:55 AM
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It is an opinion until there is proof, those are not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:42 AM
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You haven’t said a single clever, funny or entertaining thing yet. I bet you don't talk like that to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:33 AM
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The burden of proof is on the person who made the initial claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:18 AM
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In your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:12 AM
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"Any man who must say, 'I am the king,' is no true king"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:21 AM
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Makeup and flattering clothing creates the illusion that women date down in looks, but it's just that - an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LAPQOla_KVI That's why you should looksmaxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:04 AM
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What if the insta baddie is both more attractive and better to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:49 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction - doesn't matter how much cleaning and cooking you do for a guy, he won't find you hotter than an insta baddie. Works in reverse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:46 AM
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It's less important but it's still the most important aspect because without it nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:05 AM
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Yeah, the problem is women pretend that attractiveness is less important than the aforementioned traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:22 AM
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I agree tbh. After learning about men's and women's reproductive strategies I don't see how not to become nihilistic and cynical at least to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:18 AM
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I agree tbh. After learning about men's and women's reproductive strategies I don't see how not to become nihilistic at least to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:18 AM
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What social risk is there? I thought only incels care about body count and women don't care about incels anyway. Also, you forgot about the financial leverage women get when they get preggo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:15 AM
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It's not about who says something, it's about observing what people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:40 PM
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Well I said either tall or handsome or rich, meaning you can be just one and still get a conventionally attractive woman, though perhaps being just tall isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:43 PM
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I guess I'll trust you on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:40 PM
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Nah just aim for conventional attractiveness and you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:20 AM
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Only a minority of women require a man to be over 6', but you see men here complaining about those women. That's the point of the OP - only a minority of ALL women require a man to be over 6' / handsome / rich, but if we narrow it down to conventionally attractive women it's no longer a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:19 AM
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You can induce an erection artificially.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:11 AM
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Yeah except that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:08 AM
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For most people yeah. Though if you deliberately date down in looks you don't need to do much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:25 AM
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You do realize cialis and injections exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:20 AM
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And you can't convince me you haven't settled for your husband, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:19 AM
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Why are you upvoting my comments if you disagree with me, lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:19 PM
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I told you there might be more Woah you got shaking in my knees here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:48 PM
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No misconstruing would be turning "calling someone gay is middle school behavior" into "stop calling us gay! You think we are gay! It’s not gay!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:37 PM
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Everything matters but to a different extent. If your looks are maxed out you can be autistic and use blackpill lingo and still get laid more than an average guy can ever hope for, as we see with Clav. Alternatively, if your looks are slightly below average but you're incredibly charismatic you will do ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:34 PM
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That depends on the kind of man a woman is aiming for. A chad's time is worth more than average becky's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:31 PM
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There's paraphrasing and there's misconstruing lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:27 PM
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How much you think looks matter has no effect on your dating success, unless it translates into stuff like improving your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:26 PM
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What % of men thinks that all you have to do is look good vs the % of men that thinks looking good is the most important part?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:10 PM
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He said that calling someone gay is middle school behavior, he said non of that other stuff you dreamt up. "stop calling us gay! You think we are gay! It’s not gay!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:05 PM
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A random guy calling you a middle schooler got you so riled up you completely misconstrued his comment to fit your narrative? Color me surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:43 PM
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No guys going to give a fat girl a chance before she loses the weight An average woman in US is 170 lbs and has / had a partner. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:00 AM
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But every time I asked. Under there would be angry comments “stop calling us gay! You think we are gay! It’s not gay!” And few other eyebrow raising comments I'll take "Things that Never Happened" for $1000 Alex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:07 AM
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Clavicular isn't a misogynist tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:48 AM
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Yeah cuz hypergamy, but that's on women still.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:46 AM
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That was your assertion, since you mentioned it after I explicitly said sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:37 AM
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You just agreed that not one person can determine another person's value and then went on to do exactly that 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:38 PM
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I initially said sex, then you mentioned blowjobs, I repeated after you and you think I'm the one who walked back? Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:29 PM
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"Blowing" is a euphemism for all sexual acts there could be, including vaginal penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:56 PM
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Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:55 PM
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Reciting women who don't like men telling them how women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:37 PM
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What happened to "don't tell a (wo)man how (wo)men think"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:10 PM
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You're talking about the minority of men. Most men think that men and women are generally equally shallow in terms of mate selection - they may prioritize different characteristics but at the end of the day if we're not talking about casual sex it boils down to a combination of "what kind of genes can they provide to my offspring" and "how will dating this person benefit me", not "this person has a wonderful soul, therefore I'm going to date them because they deserve someone to love them" that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:56 AM
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If that were true it would get harder for a man to get laid the higher his N count gets, but it's not that case and arguably is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:50 AM
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First you said something about admitting the preference and now you're jumping to justifying the preference, make up your mind on what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:00 AM
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Same with high N count women right? You should've clarified that it's your opinion instead of speaking in generalities then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:59 AM
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The same applies to men then no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:19 AM
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It would be a lot easier if they would just admit that they think younger women are hotter and they view them as status symbols, not human beings. They will date a hot young woman who they don’t even like and can’t even stand to talk to… Just because of the way it makes them feel in front of other men. It really is that simple. Why would they admit it? Do women admit that they want tall handsome rich men over their average Joe?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:08 AM
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If that were true it would get harder for a man to get laid the higher his N count gets, but it's not that case and arguably is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:06 AM
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Even if they sold 10 min bj separately, it doesn't compare to the full sexual access chads enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:04 AM
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That's non-sequitur. You said it doesn't matter and I refuted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:23 AM
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Hot as in 8/10 face and body and higher. That doesn't cost 100$.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:22 AM
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Because we were talking about sex with hot women, lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:39 PM
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You think high end hookers cost 100$? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:18 PM
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Link the stats then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:59 PM
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It does. I only eat whole foods despite not liking them because it improves my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:56 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:53 PM
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Most men don't have access to high end hookers, which invalidates your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:24 PM
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What research? Where did you get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:02 PM
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The opposite, actually. https://www.redalyc.org/pdf/997/99752039007_2.pdf Two surveys (2975 and 3004 by the CIS) and several methods were employed: linear probability models and fixed-effect multi-level models. For men, the results show that being unattractive decreases the likelihood of finding a partner, of finding a partner with a university degree, and of finding a partner with a higher educational level. For women, physical attractiveness does not affect the likelihood of any of those event…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:27 AM
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Got plenty of women telling me that shoe lifts are a sign if insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:25 AM
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Women also often try to blame their lack of relationship on weight, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:18 AM
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Gen Z doesn't have wife and kids and they are the poorest generation to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:14 AM
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It was a hyperbole, but the gist of bluepill is that. Unless you wanna correct it as its representative?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:13 AM
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No I don't. I said there's no evidence that the majority of people finds you or most women interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:12 AM
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My point is that any one person's opinion of you is irrelevant, how interesting you are is determined by the majority's opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:34 AM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/ How would they afford it? Even if we assume that most men would enjoy sex with a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:33 AM
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First you answer the question I asked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:31 AM
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I really wish the “who cares if a woman enjoyed it as long as she pretends to be enthusiastic for my sake” dudes would stop speaking for all men. Well that's on the woman for being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:28 PM
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Women have more negative emotional affects from casual sex than men. Research indicates that women often experience more negative emotional effects from casual sex—such as regret, loneliness, and lower self-esteem—compared to men. Men are more likely to report higher satisfaction, pleasure, and improved mood, while women tend to report feeling used, emotionally detached, or judged. So men are justified in filtering for purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:26 PM
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I guess we'll never know because most men don't have access to hot women, let alone multiple of them at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:23 PM
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I never claimed that bluepillers are grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:20 PM
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What are you on about? My point is that any one person's opinion of you is irrelevant, how interesting you are is determined by the majority's opinion. Lol, is that a projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:19 PM
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Who's the arbiter of what constitutes healthy, you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:16 PM
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I never claimed that you should listen to mainstream dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:52 PM
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Mostly the same thing as about long term relationships, e.g. respect women, be nice and kind yadayada.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:37 PM
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Most people being average has nothing to do with the fact that being average sucks ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:33 PM
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Just to clarify, you think most men would choose marriage with an average (170 lbs) woman over endless sex with hot women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:32 PM
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Mainstream strongly opposes both of those ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:30 PM
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I've seen plenty of non-nice people in relationships, so doesn't seem to be a bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:55 PM
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That's a mix of blackpill and redpill, not bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:53 PM
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Statistics have nothing to do with the argument lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:51 PM
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I wasn't expecting someone to cling to specific words when I wrote that. And I asked about what most men would prefer, not what "a lot" of men would prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:50 PM
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One person thinking you're interesting and being interesting which you mentioned earlier are not the same. Also I love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:48 PM
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Truth hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:36 PM
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It is, you can't do both things at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:35 PM
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Well most women aren't that interesting themselves so why would they deserve an interesting guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:34 PM
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Well I can't make it any clearer for you, so tough luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:33 PM
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If a guy gets off it's usually due to his own effort, not a result of the woman "caring" about him, so it's equally non reciprocal in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:31 PM
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When I was in high school I looked way worse and could only get reciprocal interest from girls I would be embarrassed to be seen with in public nowadays. Getting casual sex is difficult for me because I don't drink alcohol but to be honest it's not that big of a deal to me, my biggest goal was to get access to cute-attractive women which I do have now - I get around 5 matches a day and can easily get dates with them, got out of a relationship recently. If I followed your advice I'd still be dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:29 PM
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So that you see it's not exciting to be average or to get an average partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:17 PM
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If you can get the latter then the former is a cake walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:16 PM
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There are plenty of women looking for sex with hot guys, especially young ones. There are even some taken women willing to cheat on their beer belly husband with a hot guy believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:15 PM
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I see, so what does bluepilll say about casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:10 PM
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And we have our answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:01 PM
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Asked you a simple question, no need to derail. You could write about the best way to eat shit, and I'd ask you why would you eat shit if you can earn some money and eat candies instead. Sex with a hot person is very beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:58 PM
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What is bluepill?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:53 PM
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Do you think most men if given the choice would settle with an average woman instead of having multiple hot women blowing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:51 PM
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Go ahead and tell some of your female friends that they are average looking, see how glad they'll be to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:50 PM
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I haven't mentioned anything, what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:48 PM
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What else do bluepill proponents say in that regard? Logically if how you get a relationship is by being a nice kind person, then being ultra nice and ultra kind would give you multiple relationships wouldn't it? And the hotter the woman (women) you wanna get with the more nice and kind you have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:15 PM
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To average looking women past their prime, what an achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:14 PM
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⁠Be a nice person and acknowledge that everyone is, to a certain extent, acting in their own best interests I refuse to believe that - I think each and every woman prioritizes the betterment of mankind first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:12 PM
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If you can't present a counterargument just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:27 AM
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Even if that were true, it still wouldn't qualify as an attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:13 AM
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What attacks? You're seeing things that aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:05 PM
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You're really not making much sense with your meaningless arbitrary statements lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:42 PM
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Just wondering why you can rate men's looks to determine that one of them will have an easier time but somehow can't do that with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:12 PM
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It is a FACT that some men will have to put in more effort than others What makes it a fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:33 PM
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No, even if you don't get any it's better to pretend to be preselected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:32 PM
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Imaging having to invest so much into a woman before she gives you a chance. Dating without options as a guy is miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:58 AM
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You were talking about hotness in a vacuum, not in the eyes of a particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:33 AM
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The hotter you are, the less effort you have to put in What is this referring to then? You're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:52 AM
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If you invest in your profile as an uggo guy you will still only get matches with uggo women, just more of them. Women almost never swipe right on guys below their looks level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:36 AM
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Well yeah, you have to maximize your looks before going on dating apps as a guy unless you wanna deal with bottom of the barrel women who give you 1 match a week or gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:14 AM
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When I was starting out I just used a selfie and a shirtless beach pic where I was pretty lean with no bio - got 5 matches a day on average. The key is how good you look not how much effort you put into your profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:49 AM
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But Chad is a cop out - an idea that guys use to avoid putting in the work of developing social skills and a social circle which is how you most effectively meet people. No it's an optimal dating strategy for men - maximize looks, take good pictures and go on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:46 AM
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Going from "men shouldn't get surgeries" to eugenics is a wild jump. I also couldn't care less - everyone does whatever it takes to win in the dating market and women are the biggest gene fraudsters there are lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:26 PM
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Who's they? What does that have to do with what constitutes being a pedo? You are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:34 PM
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No, most people use universal, freely available ones. I'm referring to those unique individuals you mentioned in the comment above who have their own definitions unbeknownst to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:33 PM
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They should present their own definition if it's different from the universally accepted one then, otherwise any argument will be fruitless as you'd be comparing apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:21 PM
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A person can be skinny at any age - it's related to body composition, not age. You not understanding how thermodynamics work has nothing to do with someone being a pedo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:20 PM
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I got braces and rhinoplasty and it improved the quality of women that give me attention, should I reverse them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:55 PM
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And then being this type of guy makes you seem unattractive to women seeking long term partnership A man that can have lots of casual sex can also easily get LTR, it doesn't work the other way around tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:07 PM
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All I want to do is educate people on what pedophilia actually is according to dictionary, not emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:35 PM
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Slim is similar to slender, and it refers to body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:34 PM
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What makes you think I want to continue? You made up a bunch of nonsense and got angry at it, so my assumption was that you might have abused certain substances too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:52 AM
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similar in guess who To healthy adults. Nobody likes landwhales.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:51 AM
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innocent /ĭn′ə-sənt/ adjective Uncorrupted by evil, malice, or wrongdoing; sinless slim /slĭm/ adjective Small in girth or thickness in proportion to height or length; slender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:36 AM
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Quote everything you claimed I said, then we can continue the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:35 AM
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Lay off those shrooms bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:31 AM
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innocence, slim bodies, less baggae None of these things are related to being pedo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:30 AM
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What's justification for one is explanation for the other. By the way being attracted to prepubescent looking 18 year old would make you a pedo, see how easily your logic falls apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:09 AM
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Good thing you're not a medical professional and can't prescribe treatments then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:09 AM
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Calm your tits and read the OP where the topic of discussion is related to attraction and has nothing to do with any "acts".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:07 AM
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Assuming that's true if one was to be attracted to you back in the day they would be a pedo, I don't see any contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:05 AM
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People only notice cases of poorly performed surgeries, which makes them think plastic surgery makes people worse looking on average while being unaware of well done surgeries due to them looking natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:03 AM
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What are you blabbering about? The discussion was about visual attraction where one is a pedo if they are attracted to markers of prepubescence and is not a pedo if they are attracted to markers of sexual maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:00 AM
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When talking about attraction the line is visible sexual maturity which happens at different ages for different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:57 AM
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Toupee fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:53 AM
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Indeed, hence I mentioned some are in the active phase of it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:51 AM
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No, because some people are past puberty at 16, some are in the active phase of it and some haven't entered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:45 AM
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That's an interesting hypothesis, mind linking something I can read up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:44 AM
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We would have to determine which sex gets shamed and / or ridiculed more for coming forward for it to have any relevance whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:36 AM
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A prepubescent human.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:34 AM
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So why ask the question if stats are unreliable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:33 AM
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Impossible to determine due to male victims being shamed and / or ridiculed for coming out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:30 AM
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Ah yes, the infamous midnight moment when coincidentally every human gets adult features - happens exactly 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds after climbing out of one's vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:29 AM
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Nope, that's not it either. Most people are attracted to markers of sexual maturity period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:25 AM
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Pedo means being attracted specifically to markers of prepubescence, this only applies to a tiny minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:20 AM
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Why should men want to date women knowing most of them are hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:17 AM
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Bluepillers think attraction is based on morality, what is to stop them from thinking it also depends on the number in one's ID?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:16 AM
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We want every woman to be attracted to us and no one else, nothing too crazy /s I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but this is actually the correct answer. What about that then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:22 AM
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Some clearly care deeply about presenting their lack of standards as morally superior. I certainly see it here all the time, where men try to describe female sexual selection as cruel and immoral (“men only want you to be not fat and nice, things you can change, whereas women are shallow and bad because they oniy care about things you can’t change like height and money” or “men prefer nice girls, but women only want evil thugs and violent dark triad men”). It’s practically a chorus around this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 01:59 PM
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Are most men chasing Stacy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:27 PM
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Most men don't care about moralizing attraction though, at least nowhere near to the same extent as women do. If a man doesn't like a woman's looks he'll admit that he rejected her because of looks, he won't make up some nebulous personality related flaws in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:57 AM
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That goes both ways - women want the guy all other women want while he only has eyes for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:54 AM
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But how would we know how to chadfish if men have no idea what women find attractive? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:47 PM
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we both know you've seen We've also both seen you strawmanning, as per your usual M.O.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:30 AM
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These guys are natty, they compete in natty divisions and they get tested very often Interesting. What's their body fat % at the end of the bulk cycle? Then I’m running really hot by the time I get to the bottom, and then proceed to freeze on the lift Also can’t wear a beanie under my helmet if I want my helmet to stay on Then give up on skiing, being ripped is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:00 PM
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Based, good thing is you can actually change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:57 PM
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White or asian, hourglass figure, something in-between a girl-next-door and instagram baddie facially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:54 PM
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All I’m gonna say is that I know several competition bodybuilders who are on >100 calorie surplus for bulking (if I remember right it’s like ~250-400 I meant nattie lol, obv roids provide higher rates of muscle growth that need more calories to fuel. But anyone who's taking roids to looksmax is a moron. I don’t like turning into an icicle whenever I ski for a few hours Then wear warmer clothes, you can thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:23 PM
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Content is anything you post on social media. Clout farming is clout farming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:21 PM
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I don't see how those are related. Once you're past newbie gains your muscle growth slows down so much that it gets maxed out at around daily 100 calorie surplus, there's quite literally 0 reason to put on extra fat as it will just prolong your cut phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:10 PM
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the idea that only hot men "are able" to have abusive relationships with women You gonna point us to a man claiming this or is this something you made up on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:07 PM
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You do realize he's clout farming with those surgery claims right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:06 PM
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Do inform us on the inner workings of your cherry-picked example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:01 PM
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He goes to random places and looks around for random girls to approach, I mean I'm not from US but I doubt most people there are stoned at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:58 PM
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For a man - none. For a woman - less likely to get SAd I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:55 PM
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I mean sure, but good luck getting honest ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:44 PM
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About to start wrapping up my winter bulk yet I kept pretty good ab definition throughout while gaining muscle - think I'll be at my absolute peak this autumn - summer when I finish cutting. 100-200 calorie surplus is all you need to bulk, otherwise you'll just get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:42 PM
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My type is conventionally attractive, betcha didn't expect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:38 PM
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What do you mean by reality? Let's say you're 6/10 - if you try to go for supermodels you'll think you're ugly, if you go for fatties you'll think you're a chad from your interactions. That's why it's best to get impartial ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:35 PM
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Lemme guess, Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:27 PM
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Send a picture of yourself to your friend and ask him to approach 10 random girls who'll rate you. Don't do it yourself because they will lie and overrate you if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:23 PM
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Many idolize Clavicular, despite him being and looking like a weirdo. 99% of women he cold approaches react positively lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:21 PM
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People generally agree on who's attractive. Aiming to be conventionally attractive is the most optimal strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:20 PM
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Could your parents get modeling contracts in their youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:46 PM
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Higher education rates vary by country +- Average person isn't financially successful which I assume you mean that by good career - Most people aren't good looking or well dressed - Most people probably have decent hygiene + Most people aren't particularly interesting or impressive if that's what you mean by good personality - Most people have good manners + Most people aren't well versed in finances - A good looking, financially successful guy will have neither the time nor the willingness to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:57 PM
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Even if your parents are that delulu, the vast majority of girls who try finding a partner of this caliber will eventually find out that they don't qualify for him and settle for your typical average Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:49 PM
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With all due respect Brad Pitt wouldn't care what your friend thinks of him lol, he's got plenty of women who're likely more attractive than your friend is to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:45 PM
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Your parents must be named Stacy and Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:42 PM
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Don't worry, I already know everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:20 AM
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If you don't know the difference between, "This is my favorite color," and, "This is your favorite color," I don't think I can help you. Chadfish experiments have been documented, your brown color fantasies haven't. If you don't know the difference between, "This is my favorite color," and, "This is your favorite color," I don't think I can help you. Oh no you got me there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:47 AM
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You know you couldn't take it seriously, right? Critical thought. It's necessary. So I can make up evidence on the spot too now? And, with no oversight or standardization, you can't be confident that the records aren't completely or partially faked Who oversees women claiming they prefer dad bods over lean beach bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:45 AM
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I agree with your 1% assessment in regards to lust but I'd say women do find around 10% of men sexually appealing based on photos, if we assume sexually appealing doesn't have to mean sexually arousing on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:40 AM
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Yes that's what I meant by they just have additional standards on top of that which are typically higher than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:31 AM
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So you're just like everyone else then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:18 PM
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I have video evidence of ppl choosing brown clothes. Therefore, ppl are lying when they say brown is their favorite color. How do you not see how unserious that is? Can I see that evidence? That's not what other studies have shown. "The optimal fat and muscle mass for men's bodies was in line with the healthy range." Healthy is a wide range, it can be as low as 10% which is super lean. Why can't I just say they're lying bc I said so? Stack up N=1 "studies" that support my claim, while discarding…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:38 PM
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Why? Your defense of, "Nuh uh, I know your favorite color better than you," claims are unverified "experiments" done by ppl with preexisting bias. This is a scientific study as you can see. Are not the gross, dehydrated look. The study clearly says that there's no evidence of nonlinear effect - lower body fat increases perceived strength due to muscles becoming more rippling. Again, men frequently assert that women don't have to be busty. How much sense would it make for me to say that they're l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:22 PM
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Ime, the "ripped" dehydrated look is to women what the underweight all-elbows look is to men That would be the underweight all-elbows look respectively. Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness - PubMed “Three sets of photographs of men's bodies were shown to raters who estimated either their physical strength or their attractiveness. Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:53 PM
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Women's anecdotal reports aren't scientific or controlled either. But I'm curious now, can you give examples of what you think men wrongfully assume to be conventionally attractive or attractive to the biggest number of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:27 PM
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OP is arguing that for women, sexuality tends to require non-physical attraction too, built on emotional and intellectual connection. Lol at thinking intellect is important for invoking arousal, but yes that's what I meant by "they just have additional standards on top of that which are typically higher than men's"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:52 PM
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There were tons of successful chadfish experiments ran by men, so they generally have a very good idea of what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:46 PM
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That's how people date in general - most couples are looksmatched. Idk, does anyone honestly believe that women don’t judge men based on their looks when considering partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:45 PM
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By "objectively more attractive" I meant "a person that is more appealing to a larger amount of people", just didn't wanna bother typing that out. Conventional beauty standards are mostly a result of evolution, not social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:42 PM
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There's some truth to your comment but in practice looks is still the main sexual selection criteria for women, they just have additional standards on top of that which are typically higher than men's. In fact they value looks even more than men do. https://www.redalyc.org/pdf/997/99752039007_2.pdf Two surveys (2975 and 3004 by the CIS) and several methods were employed: linear probability models and fixed-effect multi-level models. For men, the results show that being unattractive decreases the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:36 PM
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You don't see women doing public shootings because men won't like her Because women are not brave enough, they prefer to scheme behind people's backs rather than direct physical altercations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:32 PM
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Eh, people generally agree on who is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:52 AM
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But it relies on subjective opinion. Eh, people generally agree on who is or isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:50 AM
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Who's they and where are links to said studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:53 AM
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Debatable. Assortative mating suggests people can be more drawn to someone on their level than an objectively more attractive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:47 AM
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Wanna guess whom I learnt it from?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:56 AM
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Can you point me to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:55 AM
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People generally agree on who is or isn't attractive, there's even a term conventional attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:53 AM
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Is this ChatGPT? If you know how it works you know why it can be unreliable when it comes to stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:51 AM
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Where is cope and how does that soothe something? You're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:01 PM
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Don't get in your emotions now. I commented to let you know that that parts of your comments unrelated to your personal experience are factually wrong,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:34 PM
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You're so lazy that you typed a bunch of words to justify why you wouldn't find the proof that's allegedly sitting right in front of you? Lol. You made the claim, that burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:31 PM
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Money is the main component of status. The second part is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:30 PM
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Nobody cares how your relationship started, you were initially talking in generalities that are proven wrong by data. But to ask someone out, you first have to meet them. To meet them, you need to be social enough to end up in their circle I didn't know creating a profile = meeting someone and being in their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:29 PM
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Well obviously I exaggerated a bit for comedic purpose, but the gist is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:27 PM
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I thought a guy was handsome until I learned he was MAGA. Fucking amateurs. I only reveal it after I'm done with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:24 PM
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Female one night stands are mostly "I'm hungry, lets see what is available" & NOT "I dislike sex until I see a hot guy and then I wanna jump on it" Still coincidentally happens with a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:23 PM
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For most women, that’s going to be the charismatic OUTGOING guy who sought her out and asked her out. What percentage of male population is that? If we were to assume they constitute 50% and your theory is accurate, it means those young boys are spinning plates since the gender ratio is 1:2 there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:14 PM
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Sorry to break it to you but half of all relationships start online so no, you don't to meet anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:09 PM
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It is, unless you have an example of the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:03 PM
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Saying "women care about looks as much as men do" doesn't equal blaming women - that's just stating a simple fact. Women just perceive it as an insult because they're emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:01 PM
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It is high status, because money is power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:58 PM
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90% seems a bit much, I'd say status is also quite important, though most men are pretty forgiving in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:55 PM
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Clearly not if young women prefer sleeping with broke chads over billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:52 PM
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only to do 180 and blame women for being shallow and caring about looks. Can you point to a post or a comment where that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:51 PM
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Chad's status comes mostly from the halo effort. An average looking college guy still has more looks than a 40 year old CEO, so the point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:47 AM
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I used to fall for the marketing in the moisturizer space thinking the more natural ingredients like "salmon sperm" it had the better it was, but it turned out to be the opposite - chemical ingredients work better, at least in my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:51 AM
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The only products that have shown effectiveness in research are retinods, AHAs & BHAs, sunscreen and moisturizer, so I don't see a reason to use anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:39 AM
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That's not how it works though because taller guys aren't less attracted to shorter women, therefore shorter women have the same pool of guys to choose from than an average height woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:50 AM
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So your opinion is that the college girl will sleep with a chad her age over a 40 year CEO because of status, not because of looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:30 AM
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No, in layman's cringe terms, it's how cool someone is perceived I won't deny its existence but it's an irrational part of status. "Coolness" only really attracts impressionable people with Shiny Object Syndrome. Real status comes from how you're viewed by people with actual power and it's based on objective, mostly measurable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:24 AM
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Status is your ability to influence people around you. A 40 year old CEO will have more influence in almost any place he goes go including said college even if he's never been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:10 AM
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A 40 year old CEO doesn't have status in her circles LMFAO a 40 year old CEO can buy the entire college her circles revolve around and turn it into a supermarket, wtf do you mean he doesn't have status in her circles?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:07 AM
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thus a 7 is a regular unattractive jestering beta and a 7.6 is a super hot model tier Chad That seems more like an averaged out correlation factor, not the difference between 2 extremes. But either way it's bigger than relationship satisfaction (7.5 vs 7.0), which is why guys should focus on their looks instead of washing dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:59 AM
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You think an average sorority girl will fuck a 40 year old CEO over a frat chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:52 AM
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Those men just don't frequent this sub.) Or women severely overestimate how many of the aforementioned traits they possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:51 PM
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in the end the revealed preferences were similar for men and women. Not to worry, people will still insist that men are simple while women's sexuality is an unpredictable mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:50 PM
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She means the guy has to fine tune his libido to hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:47 PM
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just dont date someone who doesnt make you feel like youre the hottest man alive. Unfortunately most men can't afford such luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:38 PM
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I wouldn't say all, but a lot of them indeed have been due to women having access to men significantly above them for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:45 AM
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Nah, they'll be "single", i.e. not date anyone long term but quench their monthly sexual urge with a hot misogynist, and then go on reddit to virtue signal about how women don't sleep with misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:43 AM
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Most self-respecting women will still pick a misogynistic winner over a white knight loser, that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:18 PM
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It's fascinating that so many men can only fathom how unattractive sex work is to many women when they compare it to paid gay sex. Men are well aware that women consider most men unattractive, why wouldn't they also think that a job where a woman's gonna have lots of sex with below average men is unattractive? Where is the logic here?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:13 PM
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Yeah but it doesn't apply to individual women whom he's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:55 PM
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There is almost always room for improvement, but yes there's a genetic ceiling of some sort for a particular person, but you also don't have to go for Stacies where your competition is Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:50 PM
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Then don't complain about being objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:49 PM
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What contempt are you talking about? A man can think lowly of women in general but still like a particular one he's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:48 PM
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Make men more likely to appreciate you for non-sexual things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:44 AM
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Replace "models" with "more attractive women" and the point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:43 AM
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For weaklings who can't man up and improve themselves, not for ambitious people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:43 AM
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Women are more likely to marry attractive (healthy) men and reject depressed men, ftfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:41 AM
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"Everyone that makes women look bad is a mentally unhealthy outlier" - not an unexpected thing to hear from your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:40 AM
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Insecurity is just a buzzword for women nowadays, comparing yourself to others isn't harmful - it's how you progress. And either it doesn't refute my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:37 AM
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Oh no I said something that makes women look bad, how incel of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:36 AM
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A man's general opinion on women is just not a big factor when it comes to his romantic success. If he looks good and knows how to engage women's emotions he will have success, if not then he could be a male feminist and still fail to get any pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:06 PM
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I was responding to your comment implying that a man discussing chad treatment on reddit will somehow affect his chances in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:58 PM
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When talking about an average man yes, but not when talking about a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:56 PM
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They have more chances with your less attractive friends than with models - that's how sexual marketplace works. But even less attractive women can get crazy bargains when talking strictly about sex so they become picky there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:55 PM
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Wild fantasies you got.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:26 PM
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You're right but it only applies to a small minority of highly conscious, disciplined women. Most women don't have the discipline to abstain from having sex with physically attractive guys just like they don't have the discipline to abstain from junk food, hence most of them are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:21 PM
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Not every opinion that upsets you is incel related.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:16 PM
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What are you gonna do about it, call other men to help you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:15 PM
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The difference between a friend and a boyfriend / fwb is physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:14 PM
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Yes get yourself intentionally friendzoned, that never fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:41 PM
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He shouldn't tell women about it tho, otherwise they'll see him as a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:40 PM
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Who do you think you are lol? Should he ask before daring to talk to you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:37 PM
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I never said anything about the percentage of people that are ugly or what people who have casual sex look like. Your exact percentage as a man doesn't really matter, you just have to be above the woman you're going for since the supply and demand is skewed when talking about hookups. No it's science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:31 PM
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They don’t actually like women outside of what women provide Indeed, so women should start providing more if they want to be liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:28 PM
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Yall just need to admit you want JUST sex. Because this reads as a guy who wants consistent access to low effort sex with someone he doesn't love. But has to pretend to want relationships lr like the person they are in a relationship with to get access to consistent sex Maybe it's because most women aren't that useful to have as a man? Or do you assume women automatically improve a man's life when they enter it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:25 PM
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You get what you put in, not what your preassigned looks-rank grants you. What you put in is viewed through the lens of your looks, i.e. ugly people harass, attractive people flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:22 PM
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Do you think women are frequently overcome with sexual desire at the sight of men’s insecurity in a whiny Reddit post? Do you think men get a boner at the sight of a woman painting her face or doing all the other beautifications? Not a very smart argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:20 PM
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she says she tried something in the past and she didn’t like to There's "she doesn't like it" and there's "she doesn't like it when it's not done by a chad". E.g. lots of women claim not to like being cold approached, but suddenly become all excited when it's a chad approaching them. Same can apply to blowjobs, anal etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:17 PM
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Signs as in signs, not whatever you imagine it is. And once again, everyone compares themselves subconsciously so it ain't a biggie, no need to get all pissy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:08 PM
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You asked about signs that you're not a placeholder, not sure what insecurity has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:39 PM
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So? If he looks good he will still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:38 PM
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Not supremely, in most cases it's one of the many minor factors which pale in comparison to things like looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:09 PM
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That is the first step, the second is determining where she stands compared to the guy she is going after.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:16 PM
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So? Women can say no to non-reproductive sex just like you said men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:53 PM
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I still regularly see women have casual sex and bitch about abortion laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:13 PM
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That'd make the 2 of you, but people are generally self-aware enough to know where their ceiling is roughly speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:12 PM
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I mean, sex is a proxy for social status, because women pick men based on social status, so that's on women to break the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:04 PM
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Oh, do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:59 PM
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Obviously, because the reason she picked me is I was the most fuckable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:57 PM
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Women can also say no to non-reproductive sex, then they won't have to bitch about abortion laws. Why not do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:59 PM
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Yes it is, everything else can have a hidden motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:57 PM
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I said most, you said a lot, there's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:56 PM
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The only indicator is looking at what other women he has access to, and if you're the most attractive amongst all of them then you're most likely not a placeholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:53 PM
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If missionary is so bad that it makes men not care about their partner getting off, then they should expect that women will start to avoid having sex with them. Either a man can deal with that, or he can just masturbate with his hand since it’s much easier. That's irrelevant to the argument, which is that men on average put in much more effort into sex than women do. Yes, both men and women report that women give more head than men do: I didn't know that, appreciate the info. But even outside of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:42 PM
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Maybe the issue is that men and women have different views on what constitutes genuine desire? Lots of women seem to think that a genuine desire = a man having an inexplicable urge to do everything in his power to make a woman's life better and easier for no other reason than that woman having an (allegedly) amazingly interesting, 1 in 1000 personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:36 PM
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And a woman is just laying flat doing nothing, which is worse. First time hearing about that. Do you have any stats for that? I personally don't think anyone should be putting a stranger's genitals in their mouth without seeing their test results first, but I guess I'm a bit old fashioned in that sense. Well no because sex still requires consent of another person, but yes generally the more effort a man puts into his looks, status and money the more access to sex he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:32 PM
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Okay so back to OP's question then, how would a woman know she's genuinely desired or simply being used for sex? Genuine desire = sexual desire. You can't "use" someone for sex, because sex is a mutually pleasurable activity with the exception of prostitution. That'd be like if I voluntarily shook my friend's hand and then claimed he "used" me for his tactile pleasure. Btw. "How would they even get an erection in that case?" RP dude in below in the comments says he settled for his looksmatch and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:15 PM
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Why would men have sex with women they find sexually unattractive? How would they even get an erection in that case? Sleeping with women below their looksmatch doesn't refute that, it's simply down to the fact that men's looks threshold for sexual attraction is much lower than women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:01 PM
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It's not a stereotype, it's a result of women typically being lazy, indecisive, insecure and overall not very competent when it comes to pleasing their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:56 PM
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So then call it non-sexual desire, otherwise it makes no sense. Also you can be FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:55 PM
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Not according to the comment I responded. What makes sex an ingenuine desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:23 PM
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I didn't know the only way of clitoral stimulation is cunnilingus, you learn something every day I guess. Yes men are typically socialized to carry the entire sexual act by themselves, that's not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:02 PM
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Then looksmax, or go for ugly guys that don't have access to hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:00 PM
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Nobody is guaranteed to receive medical assistance at all times, men are just less accepting of being refused and women are too much of a pussy to stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:24 PM
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It already applies to men - broke men are not respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:22 PM
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Then man up and make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:17 PM
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The inability to use the court system in your imaginary scenario would've fucked you over even if you were a guy, it's a competence issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:02 PM
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That's not a top 1% woman lmao - she's likely in her 30s, has a protruding belly and no waist, recessed chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:59 PM
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If women are so good at mind reading to the point they can sense if you're ready to be rejected by them, why do they complain about being played by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:55 PM
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That's how it goes in most cases regardless of gender, otherwise you can sue them. Not sure how that's related to respect tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:46 PM
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From a woman's perspective maybe, but privilege is invisible to those who have it so it's expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:44 PM
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Let's say I'm an 18 year old guy who just finished school, no money, skinny, a virgin. How do I make sure that I'm indeed respected, i.e. how does that manifest itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:41 PM
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As if sex is just a favor to men. Imagine how most dudes would react if women didn’t care if they finished every time or not. They’d go mental. Most dudes wouldn't finish if they did what most women do in bed, i.e. be passive. Fact of the matter is in the vast majority of men orgasm through their own effort, not as a result of women's immense selflessness and sexual competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:38 PM
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Men are somewhat naturally selfish and women are socialized to be self-sacrificial and made to be embarassed about their sexuality. I mean, being too inept to touch your clit if you can't get off from PIV doesn't make you the paragon of selflessness that you imagine it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:35 PM
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Which you can do yourself, instead of relying on a man who already has to focus on leading the act, maintaining erection and pace, holding himself or you up depending on the position etc. How about some help, also wouldn't hurt to see the proof of women's fabled sexual competence compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:33 PM
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Men are given respect based on their economic performance, sexual performance and the capacity to inflict violence, not by default. To think that an average woman would be respected if she simply had a dick is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:28 PM
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You're talking from a woman's position of limitless sexual access. He's short, which already means he has to go for less attractive / fatter women. Add neurodivergence to that and it's a miracle dude is having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:22 PM
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Depends on the woman. Many women don't improve any other aspect of them, so there's nothing else to desire them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:19 PM
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The opposite - most guys with his genetic base never get to have experience anything romantic at all, so kudos to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:16 PM
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That's... how genuine desire works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:14 PM
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They missed the first step. If they were hot they'd get success anywhere - dating apps are just optimal in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:32 AM
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get use to parties/nightclubs. Yeah good luck preserving your hotness with that lifestyle. Dating apps are 100 times better - less monetary expenses, less aging from alcohol and inconsistent sleep schedule, more access to better looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:05 AM
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Because most men who're actually actively dating these women are in that range themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:58 AM
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All of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:30 AM
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You're right but for the wrong reason - there's no point in discussing this particular topic because it's already been studied, it's not a matter of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:16 AM
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It doesn’t reflect the women I know in real life or online at all. Women's in group bias is quite strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:06 AM
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No they are are a mix of black pill and red pill, hence they try to maximize their looks first with easily accessible things like makeup, skin and hair care, figure molding clothing, while women with sufficient levels of discipline also diet and exercise. And red pill in the sense that they filter men by social status, try to sell purity to a prince charming whom they wanna get a ring from etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:05 AM
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My issue with Reddit is that its full of really off-key, judgemental people who also try and frame their lack of looks or social success as some kind of sign of their virtue. It isnt. "They're only as shallow as the world allows them to be".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:57 AM
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That's any couple with a mortgage. Same as paying rent in a Ltr. Choose a 20yo and her earnings will be shit. Choose a 30yo and she will treat u too. Only men that only care about looks will go for the 20yo again, if they can afford it Most women simply expect their guy to cover rent, food and any social event they attend, I don't know why you're playing dumb. Then stop talking about fucking unicorns. A woman in her 20s won't go for a guy with a beer belly and reciding hairline. Only inmature pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:06 AM
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Maybe they're trying to find a hidden gem, plus sex is always nice to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:40 PM
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U know that couples normally pay mortgages 50/50 right? That's marriage, I was talking about LTR in general. Again most guys wont get a girl 20 years younger Yeah no shit, you have to be exceptional to get a young woman while being old yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:38 PM
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Sure after you fall in love with a dwarf.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:26 PM
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But women have a much less universal standard for attraction than men do, but men wish we all liked the same type of man like they all like the same type of woman. It's the opposite - men are into a pretty large diversity of women, evidenced by porn categories. Meanwhile women: white, tall, dark, handsome, V-taper, big dick, and according to them male porn actors are ugly lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:23 PM
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She’s gotta get instant lusty vaginal tingles and always want to fuck on command, simultaneously have no history of giving that treatment to any other man, and she needs to fit into his favorite porn category. He's gotta be the one all other women including fit models want but only have eyes for my average self, simultaneously be dangerous and capable of inflicting immense violence on everyone but somehow not be able do that to me because I'm just so irresistibly attractive. Oh and also he gotta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:16 PM
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Nope. These women are pretty self-aware, not looking for someone rich. That's irrelevant, looking or simply wanting has the same result in this case, so eventually they either adjust their standards or stay alone forever. I'm not sure what your argument is. The point is that I see women who are unwillingly single are usually aware of their own undesirability/faults and don't have the tendency to resent or hate men for having preferences. Most women have overinflated self-esteem as a result of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:22 AM
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For the most part no, people largely agree on who is or isn't attractive. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3130383/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:53 AM
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So? Even ugly fat women want handsome fit billionaire men, none of them will get it tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:52 AM
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So which is it? Men have to put in so much effort OR do nothing? Depends on how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:26 AM
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Mind sharing what you've tried to do to find a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:24 AM
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Reason being I'm from a country with pretty strict beauty standards, and they don't fit into it. The actual reason is they want guys who're above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:22 AM
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Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:11 AM
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In your opinion, what does a strong desire for you look like early into the relationship? Initiation and / or equal energy in interactions, the absence of implications like "you owe me something for spending time together" , receptive to verbal and physical escalation, eager to be alone with you outside of public places.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:50 AM
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If we're talking about anal sex then most women are pussies here as well, even in LTR. Taking D in V is much easier than taking D in A, and we don't have enough data to know how willing men would be if they had V compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:46 AM
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Your weight affects how much your partner likes you, but that's besides the point. The point is yes, men can hypothetically choose not to deal with a woman they don't consider to be a good partner, but then most of them will never have sex. Saying no to sex for men is the same as saying no to being fat - easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:40 AM
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No it actually went like this: You: women are oppressed Me: No You: That's your feelz, you're totally triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:36 AM
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Didn't you just admit that your entire argumentation was based on feels? So what's the difference between us then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:34 PM
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This is boring, I'm out Lol, should I've been more merciful with my argumentation? my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:09 PM
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Women should never trust men. Doesn't sound like an opinion at all, more like a universally applicable advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:59 PM
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So it is your feels vs my feels then, so why take an issue with it? Your feelz have nothing at all to do with my perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:56 PM
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Career established and likely far more financially stable. Irrelevant because most women don't share their assets. Likely more confident and charismatic Agreed, tho likely more traumatized and bitter as well. More life experience so more interesting things to talk about. Agreed. Almost certainly more stylish and competent with fashion and beauty Not enough to compensate for worse skin, wrinkes, cellulite, extra weight etc. By that point any physical trace of teenage girl-ness will be long gone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:47 PM
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What makes you think your perspective is objective and not based on feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:44 PM
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I can somewhat forgive the ones who somehow made it to adulthood unscathed Bro you're saying it like it rarely happens. Western girls / women have the easiest, most privileged life out of all demographics of people to ever exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:38 PM
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Its not like a woman goes "your my bf now" yall have the ability to not pursue crazy women and leaving if a woman is crazy Women also have the ability to be slim, but an average US woman is 180 lbs, something is not adding up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:34 PM
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You sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:32 PM
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I did respond directly to what you said. If your mindset is “I earned better women now,” you didn’t mature. You just got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:39 PM
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A man's dating success is linearly correlated with his SMV, because women don't pick men based on moral goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:53 PM
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Nothing in this life is guaranteed, but the contrast between "A man hitting “peak SMV” means nothing" and "A rich hot 35 year old is not guaranteed to be successful" is funny, almost as if you understood what I meant perfectly and backtracked while playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:43 PM
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A man hitting “peak SMV” means nothing if he’s a selfish antisocial asshole Because just world fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:24 PM
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money means more to women For relationship-marriage attraction, which most men don't prioritize - they want to be sexually attractive first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:22 PM
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lots of dudes with such a mindset would go younger Most women would also go taller, richer, more handsome if they could - shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:20 PM
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Fact of the matter is there are trustworthy and untrustworthy women at all attractiveness levels. If you had to settle for an average Becky that's fine, you don't have to try and rationalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:17 PM
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Eh, maybe a small minority. Mass appeal is what men should be going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:13 PM
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Mostly good genetics lol, which can't be "spent" therefore it's free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:27 PM
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Y’all act like we are withholding some secret. We’re not 🤷🏽‍♀️ Most women very much do, because they don't wanna get frauded by men faking good genes. As an example, most women won't admit that wearing shoe lifts increases a man's attractiveness specifically because they wanna weed out short men and not get height frauded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:23 PM
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Can we see the stats or at least talk to the men who've "succeeded" by following your advice? Also defining "success" wouldn't hurt because I'd bet some women think getting unenthusiastic sex from a subpar looking woman after working as her jester is a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:15 PM
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Men like to hide behind looks Not as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:12 PM
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One more reason LTR isn't a good deal for most men - paying for something others got for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:54 PM
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Is whining in the same room with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:13 PM
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Having sex without something in return or sense of safety is clearly foolish as a woman. Nothing to do with body count really. Not if the guy is a couple leagues above them, evidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:13 PM
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Man up and improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:19 PM
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LTR doesn't matter in this case to the initial deal for sex being shitty for women. The financial benefit (which I question) only sets in if there's a LTR, which is a big if. And that benefit is often not high enough to outweigh the cost. So having sex without getting free rent, food and social events afterwards is too risky for a woman? Sounds like men are right about N count being extremely important then. And, it must be said, the majority of men do not have access to casual sex....so, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:18 PM
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There are plenty of men who've had an abundance of casual sex and still end up in, and seek, committed relationships. Hardly plenty, at most there are some. There is no requirement in the modern world for men to "lose out" financially. There is no requirement for women to have sex euither. Date women who make the same or more income than you do Can't - women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:15 PM
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Generally speaking the below to average man offers less on basically all dating fronts (this is the most debatable of my statements) Women benefit financially from entering a LTR, men lose out financially. If all men had access to casual sex, most of them wouldn't be interested in having a LTR with women, so it's not as good of a deal as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:44 AM
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36% indicated that, while clitoral stimulation was not needed, their orgasms feel better if their clitoris is stimulated during intercourse What do you think that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:14 PM
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I meant that if you've been trying a certain solution but still have subpar results 6 years later perhaps it's time to start questioning its effectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:11 PM
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So what percentage of woman can orgasm without clit stim from your interpretation of said text?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:02 AM
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No, you should've just quoted the text you're talking about from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:40 AM
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Which one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:22 AM
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54.4% as per the text I quoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:37 AM
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Just quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:34 AM
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Where does the failure lie exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:06 AM
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Reread what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:03 AM
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So pretending to be non-superficial and then saying "I didn't feel the spark" when it turns out the person doesn't match your physical standards is better than being upfront about it to save both people's time? You do you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:59 AM
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Lifestyle is irrelevant because there are dating apps. But even if we assume that's true, the women they get to have sex with are much less attractive than those that high status guys have access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:53 AM
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You're talking about guys that got lucky with genetics and have a high appeal to teenagers and early 20s women, those will lose most of their sexual access by the time they hit 30s. Take a hollywood actor level of guy whom millions of women fantasize about, no college pretty boy is gonna be able to compete with him in terms of sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:23 AM
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I remember seeing you promote therapy to people here - how's it been working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:12 AM
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A man's social status is usually linearly correlated with the amount of women that wanna sleep with him, so it's more so on women to change their preferences if they indeed don't like the way things are at this moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:06 AM
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If a woman likes you you can basically do no wrong. If she doesn’t, you’re NEVER changing disinterest into interest. Some fools manage to change it into a financial interest and are proud of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:01 AM
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Most women can orgasm that way as I said. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28678639/ While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse, and an additional 36% indicated that, while clitoral stimulation was not needed, their orgasms feel better if their clitoris is stimulated during intercourse 18.4 + 36 = 54.4%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:27 AM
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Most of the work to do the PIV thing, you know, the main part of sex. Most women can also orgasm from it, so if she happens to be in a minority that can't, why not do something about it? Having to dedicate one hand to stimulating her clit means the positions that require a man to hold himself up go out the window, on top of making it harder for him to keep the correct angle and rhythm. It'll never cease to amaze me how entitled and lazy some women are when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:41 PM
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Sure I’ll tell the newborn that he doesn’t need to nurse he can just play with an iPad. Babies and toddlers can’t use iPads. Bigger children shouldn’t use them often either. Newborn is a different topic, but newborns don't stay newborns for that long. I was being sarcastic because there have been so many men giving the obvious advice of “just meal prep and workout” in this thread like it’s so easy to do while taking care of children and working etc. I mean, successful businessmen manage to stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:37 PM
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Most people don't meal prep and work out, children or not. Having kids is one more extra thing to up the challenge level, but if this were so easy, everyone would do it. It's not easy but it is the most solution to their problem. Like, either don't complain about being an out of shape slop or get disciplined enough to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:36 PM
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How many little kids do you have because meal prepping on weekends is harder since they are all home. Babies won’t sit quietly while you spend hours meals prepping. What are they gonna do, destroy your house? Give them an ipad or something to play with. The way people make it sound on this subreddit, they must only eat perfectly balanced meals and have the bodies of an adonis since it’s so easy. I’m surprised so many of them have trouble dating with that level of dedication to their health. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:33 PM
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I'd imagine she may say something like "you need to touch my clit more". LOL, that'd be even crazier. Imagine being so lazy that you need a man to touch your clit while he's already doing most of the work in bed instead of doing it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:29 PM
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Most likely they just need to talk to their husband about what they like, then the sex will improve. Pretty crazy that you think she hasn't considered that. What is she gonna tell him? "I don't get as horny for you as I did for my ex, so do something about it."?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:53 PM
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Are you trying to be funny? It's not working if so. Your first thought was that if a random woman you don't know decided to lower her looks standards and give an average Joe a chance she would be settling, meaning you don't think a personality can make up for looks for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:57 AM
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This isn't a relationship problem. Most likely she had more primal attraction for her ex since most women don't get to marry their first choice and attraction can't be negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:52 AM
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Also, what kind of woman are you imagining, sir? lol One who says, "Would you like to date me?" He says "No," so she shouts, "How about a fuck? Please, just a fuck! I need to be at least good enough for that!" Fuck is already implied when a woman approaches because as I said, women know most men will still take free sex in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:59 AM
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I'm afraid that even the actual raising the kids part is still heavily put upon the women. Things are getting better and many fathers are more active in parenting than their fathers and grandfathers were, but I've still seen way more deadbeat dads than deadbeat moms. Women are free to go and earn money while their guy parents the kids, wonder why they don't agree to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:58 AM
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Most women want to know that they are inherently sexually desired by men even if they aren't planning to whore around, just like most people who got FIREd early in life want to know that they are inherently valuable on the job market even if they aren't planning to have a 9-5 job. That's a better analogy than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:41 AM
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Getting broken up with by a guy in a genuine LTR is also more brutal because of the associated investments, I'm talking about an immediate reaction following approaching a stranger. Women know that most men will still take free sex with almost any woman even if they don't want a long term with said woman, and no man is ever gonna say shit like this "You're not enough for me to settle down with, but want to roll around a bit" because it kills their chances of getting laid. So yeah as I said, bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:12 AM
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True, but women claim they value personality more than looks so it shouldn't be as much of an issue as women being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:03 AM
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In reality most people are fat as a result of a lack of discipline - if you allegedly don't have time to work out, then eat less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:00 AM
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Nah you don't understand mate, something-something estrogen something-something impossible not to get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:58 AM
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Where do you find the time to workout and cook healthy meals from scratch? Meal prep on weekends instead of being on reddit, work out at home while prioritizing high intensity instead of volume, pair exercises into antagonist supersets, then it takes about half an hour per workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:54 AM
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True, but women claim that they value personality more than looks so it shouldn't be as much of issue as women being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:52 AM
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No. Having physical requirements doesn't make you a bad dating prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:49 AM
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Also, men who are lukewarm about a woman will often still entertain her because of the possibility of low effort cheek clapping. True, and most women are aware of that from my experience, this is what makes them terrified of a potential rejection. When a man gets rejected by a woman it hurts his self-esteem yes, but not by much and he usually moves pretty quickly. On the other hand, when a woman gets rejected by a man she realizes that not only did he reject a potential relationship with her, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:44 AM
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You're not the arbiter of what constitutes sufficient evidence though. An incel saying he'll vote for Trump is not at all an indicator of him being emotional - he can't get laid regardless, so him voting for someone whose policies make sex more dangerous to have for other people is as expected as it gets because it doesn't affect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:25 AM
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The mask slipping is an indicator of one being emotional at that moment, that's directly related to my point, which you're trying to dodge now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:11 AM
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I'm multiple steps ahead of you. Women's typical stance is "A man is not defined by the amount of women he slept with", but as soon as they hear someone say that women mate select based on genetics they immediately go to "you're an incel", because when you get angry it become much harder to control your words and actions, so they let their mask of political correctness slip.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:03 AM
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I've had women call me an incel for saying women reject men for their face and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:55 AM
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Yeah they do, but women typically get way more emotional when it's said, especially liberal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:47 AM
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That’s why they talk so much about “objective” ratings and the 1-10 scale, which single lonely women do way less They do it at the same rate, in fact that's how most women select their partner - they immediately filter out all men who are below their looks, height and frame threshold, and amongst those that pass they look for a balance of looks and compatibility. Also worth noting that most women will be apprehensive about dating a guy who's significantly above them looks wise due to insecurity …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:45 AM
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It's not a ragebait, it's what men have been saying for a while. In fact it's women who get triggered when someone says that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:39 AM
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Women also want a guy that looks good without makeup, is built without steroids and tall without shoe lifts, can you imagine?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:38 AM
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You're right, men don't hesitate to insult each other at any opportunity. Men don't insult each other more than women do, they're just more transparent. Women, especially liberal ones, tend to see the absence of virtue signaling as an insult for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:36 AM
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Assortative mating works the same way everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:34 AM
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At worst, she stays single and avoids being in a relationship with someone she’s not attracted to. I don’t know about others, but I don’t want to be someone’s “I’m desperate not to be alone!” pick. I thought women need to learn one's personality to find them attractive? It's funny how women tend to refute their own arguments when it's not a direct question but an indirect topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:32 AM
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Not from my experience. Whenever I see women say they "prefer" a softer look it usually comes with "the ripped guy looks selfish / arrogant / fuckboyish / demanding / whatever else".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:31 PM
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Now see gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:30 PM
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All this to say, men should actually be narrowing down their dating pool and optimizing for fewer better successes instead of broadening their appeal. Typical manipulation aimed at limiting men's options and leverage in dating. When only 1 in 100 women finds you attractive you're at the mercy of that 1 woman, you will have to be her little bitch boy unless you're ready to go through another 99 rejections to get another chance at getting favorable relationship conditions. When 1 in 10 women finds…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:03 PM
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Idk, on one hand it's weird not to take advantage of all your investments into the military industrial complex to mog a few shithole countries nobody cares about and let your corporations run them like colonies, but on the other hand you already were the most powerful country in the world and you control the world reserve currency, so why risk changing the world order at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:31 PM
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Q4M: Guys who're fairly experienced, do you generally have more success on dates where you share an activity and most of your interactions are therefore situational, potentially revolving around it, or where there's no specific activity and you're just walking / drinking coffee talking to each other on random / abstract topics?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:17 PM
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it basically signals to a woman that she'll never be able to enjoy a beer or ice cream with the guy. Most women would rather get the visual stimulus from seeing a guy's cut abs than be able to enjoy a beer or ice cream with him (that is, assuming those are mutually exclusive which they are not). The actual reason women can be apprehensive about jacked guys is they can be pretty insecure about their own bodies next to them and most women's only real leverage over their guy is usually their sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:23 PM
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I've checked out a couple of videos from US lawyers and they insisted that he's going to jail, too bad those fools didn't take the halo effect into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:11 PM
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Just seen the news that Clav got his charges dropped - I think America is finally healing boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:41 PM
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Trust me a 5'6 dude born to a billionaire will be far better off in life than significantly taller men born into poor families Assuming everything else is equal, the first dude will have an easier life while the second one will have more women sexually attracted to him, both quantitively and quality wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:20 PM
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To be honest "you did that 10 years ago with some chad, now do that for me even if you don't like it" isn't the speech i want to hear in bedroom and not the spell to make me horny and open. Now imagine the meltdown an average woman is gonna have once she finds out her boyfriend took his ex to luxurious restaurants, while she herself gets offered coffee dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:13 PM
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Acting like women should just want to hop on it with minimal effort, because that’s what porn shows. So, the same way women expect to be paid for on a date because that's what social media shows? Viewing women they’re attracted to as objects to be used. How does that manifest itself? How do you know what they view someone as without being a mind reader? Having a hazy idea of consent. What does that mean? Not valuing a woman’s pleasure. On average women are much more passive in sex than men are. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:38 AM
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I think a lot of people (women) genuinely do not care about what is in someone's pants They do, like 90% of them. They just like to virtue signal by appearing indifferent to physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:32 AM
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You can always say "I don't find you physically attractive", that will kill a man's desire to pursue you in 99% of cases. I guess women simply value preserving fake virtue over stopping a man from pursuing them 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:31 AM
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she didn't want to be approached at this moment in time so why should she be grateful for this random man to suddenly ask for her number Because she thought she didn't look good enough to be approached and it turned out the guy was still interested. he could have at least asked a few questions to see weather or not he liked her as a person first You don't need to like someone as a person to find them attractive, just ask Jeremy Meek's fangirls. Also if someone is good looking your mind will like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:19 AM
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Damn bro, that's deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:16 AM
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Huh? Being a contrarian is going against the majority by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:23 PM
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What exactly is there to understand about sexual access? It's a binary yes / no. And you're changing the definitions now - your comment clearly stated that people are either doing shit for ideological reasons, or to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:25 PM
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Shit, the hiveminds gonna get me aint it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:56 PM
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It’s a matter of life experience And what experiences of yours refute the points I've made? Genuinely curious. I would bet my life on the fact that the points you are making are simply things that you have heard other people say online No, they are a combination of things I observed, the data I've seen and the logical patterns between those. Have you ever even traveled to one of these countries and dated any actual foreign women? Genuine question. I was born in one of those countries, so yeah it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:54 PM
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What makes you think you're smart enough to judge the correctness of one's world view? People tend to overrate their IQ by quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:14 PM
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I hate to break it to you dude, but EVERYONE DOES NOT just mindlessly try to get the hottest person they can. It’s insane that you even think that. It was a figure of speech. The majority of people are led by their low level base instincts, e.g. eat the tastiest junkiest food regardless of long term consequences (hence the obesity rates) or fuck the person with the best genes, i.e. the hottest one. Also, you don’t think that women in these countries have access to social media? Depends on the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:30 PM
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Everyone tries to get the hottest person available to them yes, you're not breaking any new ground here. Too many reasons to list, but the main one is social media brainwashes women into having delusional standards and gives them an illusion of having relationship access to top tier men, making them unwilling to settle with average men especially while at their peak SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:12 PM
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So you’re saying that if a man is short, he won’t be able to get an American woman who isn’t fat. So that’s why he needs to go to a developing country? … It's just an example, and it's not that rigid, it's probabilistic. To dumb it down, the same guy who gets 5/10 women in US can get 7/10 women in the eastern countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:48 PM
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So if a woman fails to get commitment from one guy she likes, she is settling with all subsequent partners despite liking them and being attracted to them? That makes no sense. There are levels to liking someone. A guy a woman masturbates to is 10/10 in her eyes, a guy she ends up marrying is usually like, a lukewarm 5-6/10 in her eyes maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:45 PM
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Banged his personality, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:40 PM
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Yes, but if you're a short guy you'll likely have to settle for a fat woman even if you're fit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:21 PM
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What does settling mean to you? Failing to get commitment from the guy you mentally or physically masturbate to. And how does my statement about men cheating say anything about women? It's in the underlying language - "Do you see this specifically as a woman thing or a people thing?" implies that you think both genders do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:42 AM
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Do you see this specifically as a woman thing or a people thing? Do you genuienly believe that if a man good approach by the hottest billionaire supermodel, he would reject her 100% of the time and stay with is 5/10 gf instead? Oof, imagine implicitly admitting that all women settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:17 AM
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Yeah, and if you would put half that energy into your life here in America… Maybe an American woman would actually want you and you wouldn’t have to “train“ to become a passport bro. Can't really grow taller can he? And why attract fat american women if he can get a slim, less delusional one from a developing country?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:11 AM
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I don't think anyone should be shamed for doing something that doesn't negatively affect other people, and neither does the commenter above, at least it was never stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:51 AM
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To be precise you're making an assumption based on the original comment, not stating a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:48 AM
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It's also a politically correct way for women to reject bad looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:47 AM
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Based. That's the main reason women beautify themselves - to get access to more attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:41 AM
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If we go off of your definition, shallow women don't exist because all women have sexual access by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:39 AM
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Most people can't, especially in the age of social media when everyone has unrealistic expectations. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:35 AM
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It's not shameful, it's just undesirable in the same way being short is undesirable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:34 AM
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So is it only the broken women, or have all women evolved to find the capacity to inflict violence attractive? You seem to be contradicting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:27 AM
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Someone isn't broken because they go to therapy, they are broken because they NEED therapy in the first place. Either they are mentally unhealthy, or they are too weak to deal with it themselves or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:27 AM
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If they weren't broken they wouldn't need therapy, as evident by its definition. There are ways to minimize risks, such as dating mentally healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:08 AM
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Because it means a person is broken, and a risky investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:58 AM
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Yet they put less effort into sex than men do on average, crazy stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:16 AM
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therapy Red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:13 AM
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because it's best of the OLD companies if you keep coming back rather than finding a stable relationship Incorrect. Most people leave dating apps if they fail to find a relationship within a reasonable time frame there, and it's in the companies' best interest for you to find a relationship so that the app gets more popular through word of mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:11 AM
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She is not looking to date until she paints her face, which is insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:01 PM
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Going to a restaurant on a first date is cringe, but suppose it depends on how beautiful both of them are. I'd try to do some small talk and read her nonverbals to make sure it's not a setup, if she seemed genuine enough I'd try to do the switcheroo and take her to another place to avoid the other girl blowing it for me just in case. If she warned me about being late in advance I'd probably wait tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:41 AM
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Ok but we all know women like to virtue signal, so when directly asked about being approached they realize they have to stay consistent and say something like "oh I definitely don't want a hot guy to approach me either". But the fact of the matter is - there's no footage online of a woman reacting poorly to a conventionally attractive guy cold approaching her, but there's plenty of that footage with conventionally unattractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:43 AM
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I'm just relaying what women themselves say all the time - "you can't speak for all women", at least when it's something they don't like hearing. Cry about what? You're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:31 AM
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Then don't beautify yourself to maximize the chances of being picked for your (allegedly) amazing personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:29 AM
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I mean, most women think like that, they just don't vocalize it and prefer to virtue signal about personality instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:23 PM
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He wasn't talking about his worth as a person, he was talking about it in the dating context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:51 PM
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But I also felt suspicious like “you haven’t talked to me, you don’t know who I am, you ask my number only based on my looks…” Well considering you were so self conscious about your looks you should be happy that you looked good enough for him to be interested in you. Also it's not like women pick guys based on personalities either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:48 PM
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In general, women don’t like being approached or hit on when their guard is down I thought you can't speak for other women. We are also self-conscious and would rather be hit on when we are looking our best and feeling empowered You think all women are insecure? Shouldn't they resolve their insecurities before dating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:46 PM
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That would make the 2 of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:21 AM
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So you didn't realize it was /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:21 AM
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By pretending to be sex positive and gently nudging her to open up herself. I usually say something along the lines of "it's so weird that a lot of people our age have such little experience", after which most of them become more than willing to share their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:12 AM
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Never said it wasn't fine, what are you arguing lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:06 AM
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You haven't linked any research to confirm your based claims so far. Genes > money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:06 AM
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So are you talking about primal attraction or conscious attraction? Because female brain hasn't evolved to be turned on by money yet, but it is still turned on by physical power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:08 PM
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Neither do rich guys. The only guys that ensure survival are those with hunting / martial arts skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:20 PM
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They are, but only with top percentile of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:02 PM
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Yes. Women engage in casual sex when they feel lust, which you claimed is a man's thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:23 PM
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Never said it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:11 PM
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Again that was my point, when women give you advice it’s more targeted for quality. Most women themselves select for looks first and the quality is either secondary or optional altogether if the guy is hot enough, so I don't see why you'd perceive their advice to be focused on quality. Well and here it comes, if a guy just wants to smash he shouldn’t ask dating advice. Smashing and dating are two different things. I know guys I would smash because of their look but never date. Guys don't say "gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:08 PM
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Your comparison is not equal and even then the broke attractive guy would get more sex with women who're horny for him. Either compare broke and attractive to rich and ugly, or average money and attractive to rich and average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:21 AM
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Next time a woman complains about men lying to get into her paints I'll tell her "it's not lies, it's sex propagation".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:06 AM
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how many of those dates turned into relationships and lasted for over a year What makes you think he's interested in long term relationship? My feeling is that for everybody, better you look more people you will attract. It also comes with questionable quality of people It doesn't. The "quality" is roughly evenly distributed across all looks levels - and some women, despite being "good quality", will simply remain inaccessible for you because you don't pass their minimal looks threshold. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:03 AM
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I see. Well in those situations women don't mislead / lie to men for selfless reasons either - they do it to appear virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:57 AM
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to avoid potential fallout Ah yes, those fallouts on anonymous forums are rather fearsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:48 AM
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ugle/old men with money will NEVER be desirable Yeah and good looking broke men are, thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:45 AM
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It doesn't. Prostitutes / gold diggers do not enjoy sex with their clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:18 AM
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It doesn't matter how hard it is - it is the only way to generate primal desire. Money doesn't make women wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:02 AM
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Sure, in practice most women prioritize looks over personality despite claiming otherwise tho. It's not about what I care about. Most neurotypical women are fully aware that their simps wanna fuck them - they keep them on a leash by occasionally dropping a tiny hint that they might eventually be interested while keeping plausible deniability in order to keep receiving tangible benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:41 AM
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Yes. I never brought up marriage tho - most men don't care about being marriage material, they want to be sex material.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:37 AM
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You're not responding to me, you're arguing with a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:36 AM
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I clearly said that women only lust after the top percentile of men, and are lukewarm about the rest. What are you arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:54 PM
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Huh? You're not making much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:31 PM
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She said she prioritized sexual gratification after having had sex with him, watchu think it means lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:12 PM
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Read carefully - she enjoyed it more than with a LTR guy, which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:03 PM
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Attractive men typically don't marry and therefore don't get divorced because it makes no sense - you're just limiting your sexual access for no real gain. Most married men are normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:00 PM
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It means they enjoyed sex more with him, which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:59 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/k2k54sm7ls9g1.png?width=752&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c0f64a9b9c5b47a3b62f8d49ef44dd638541b3e The second comment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:45 PM
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No I just have a good attention span and can read properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:39 PM
0

It is enough - women don't cheat on their rich fat husbands with richer fat men, they cheat with better looking guys. Masculinity is outdated - broke pretty boys embarrass your stereotypical alpha providers in terms of sexual access and it ain't even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:37 PM
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The people who were responding in the link I sent are also women, your experience isn't more relevant than theirs. I've experienced it myself after looksmaxxing, so don't invalidate my experience as women like to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:33 PM
2

It is with the top percentile of attractive guys, or you wouldn't have women engaging in casual sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:31 PM
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There is no lie though! Prioritizing personality over looks is a lie in most cases. Truly scummy guys may try to squeeze free sex out of them if they can "pump and dump" if you will. Yes. Women do the same but in reverse - squeeze out various favors without having sex, also known as friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:31 PM
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Read more carefully, then you won't have to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:29 PM
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It is in most cases. There are still priorities to be had tho, and most women lie about theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:09 PM
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Most women don’t want to be attractive on a primal level Definitely false. I suggest searching up some reddit posts where a woman finds out her husband didn't find her attractive when they first met but learnt to appreciate her personality over the years and the mental breakdown that follows. Men need to suck it up and do the same. Both sides need to get what they want not just men. Agreed, which is what I'm advocating for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:06 PM
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most of the guys were working part time jobs in grounds keeping or construction. So the girls who were working full time in fast food or post college jobs were making more money either from more hours or better jobs. Construction workers make more money than fast food workers. If we compare college graduates to non graduates then yeah, but they usually don't date each other either way. Mascara absolutely alters the perception of your face, and the concealer hides all the skin imperfections, over…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:04 PM
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They don't have to confirm having been feral, they just have to confirm having been more excited with them than with an average LTR guy which they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:00 PM
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Saying you want to be with someone you find attractive and prioritizing looks isn't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:59 PM
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Mind showing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:56 PM
1

Tbh not sure why I chose to engage with you in the first place, since your initial comment counters none of the points I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:54 PM
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You're not the center of the universe. https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-than-long-term-partners-husbands-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:52 PM
1

Go to the beginning of the comment tree and read everything again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:51 PM
1

Most people don't operate on being horny to a feral extent in their daily life, the argument was about the emotional and physiological state and behavior inside the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:49 PM
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I said I love sluts and I'm not responsible what other men do. Wanna hear a real paradox tho? It's when women say they want a nice guy, but pick a guy who bullies said nice guys instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:47 PM
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I'm not responsible for what other men say. Assuming you have dead average genetics, a couple of years of gym, diet, skincare, teeth whitening + braces if needed and a good hairstyle will put you in the top 20% of looks, which assuming you're not going for the most attractive girls will be enough. And most men don't want to be financially attractive, they want to be attractive on a primal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:38 PM
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People act like prioritizing physical attraction is a cardinal sin. No, lying about what you prioritize isn't nice tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:35 PM
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She doesn't have to be drunk, that's your assumption, maybe projection. Being feral and being highly turned on are synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:27 PM
1

Neither did your comment, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:25 PM
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I said at some point in their life, even assuming you're correct it doesn't have to be recurring for that statement to be true. All of my hookups came from tinder since I don't drink, so I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:15 PM
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I think men are wanting women to have extreme “jump your bones” lust from women That's your assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:12 PM
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You'd be hard pressed to find a college student, male of female, who hasn't had casual sex. Get real. You can also google the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:04 PM
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Sure, but you can't control how much lubrication you produce, how much your cheeks flush, how your body responds to stimulus as a result of being turned on - those are all easy tells.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:03 PM
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Huh? It's way easier to improve your looks than to become financially successful, and the latter not only fails to invoke genuine desire, but also requires so much time that your looks will significantly diminish by the time you're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:00 PM
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He assumes she was feral and horny with other dudes so he wants that too. Most women have had casual sex at some point in their life and considering how far above their league they can shoot their, it's a safe assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:54 PM
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I said it's necessary to level the playing field - women lie about their past, wear makeup, pushup bras and all that. If all men were fully transparent they'd have to date girls way below their actual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:51 PM
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Women can be turned on by looks, they just have a magnitudes higher threshold for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:48 PM
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Men want sex to be the reason women enter relationships with them, not the means to secure the relationship benefits - such horrific views, men are indeed vile creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:47 PM
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And yet men see sex as reward, as something that women give, and despise those who give away for free Actually, women are the biggest haters of female sluts, since it increases the supply of sex on the market which is most women's only bargaining chip in the male to female dynamics. I've never seen a man tell a slut to stop "giving away free sex", but I've seen plenty of women tell a slut to "start having some self-respect", which is a euphemism for "start trading sex for tangible goods, you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:38 PM
0

Never said I was entitled to it, I said it's necessary. Who decides which choice is correct, you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:06 PM
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Were they making more money? How many times have each of them cheated compared to men? Better looking with or without makeup and all other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:45 PM
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Physical attraction means “nothing” to me. Right, I'm sure the fact that your current boyfriend is in the small % of good looking men is pure coincidence then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:04 AM
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You guys focus on looks first but it doesn’t mean women do It does - most couples are looksmatched. I know many women who married men who they were not initially attracted to. Yeah because they couldn't get the hotter guys to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:03 AM
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Most people date their looksmatch, who woulda thunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:59 AM
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Shes still going to have more access to sex than you have. Women don't value casual sex unless it's with the very top % of men. None of you have enough power for any real consequences of the behaviors that women display that you dont care for. The men that most women want have that power. She could drop her "boring sex" on the floor and some male is going to come right after you and lick it up like a dog. Some male whom she will call creepy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:05 AM
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Most men’s dick game is weak as fuck, that why so many go so long without getting pussy. If you have a weak dick game you will fail to get repeat customers, not fail altogether. Your dick game isn't known until you fuck for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:00 AM
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I mean they're fine dudes, but they're generally not very hard-working, aren't the best looking, their faithfulness/religiosity is lip-service at best, So, same as most women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:53 AM
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Pretty sure women fake purity all the time and they do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:52 AM
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Lying isn't good, but it is necessary to somewhat level the playing field in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:50 AM
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If conservative men aren’t willing to be flexible then they will be stuck standing alone You'd be surprised how little political views affect your dating success when you're actually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:49 AM
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Do they themselves have all of these traits tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:21 PM
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And what exactly is the reason men take women swimming? The reasons could be: because they like swimming because they wanna make sure you look good without makeup You choose to make 2 the default assumption tho, why is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:24 PM
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I said you think that swimming makes them uglier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:47 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1pqzaxt/comment/nv6zl78/?context=3 this one? Let's discuss yours first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:42 PM
1

Yes, blackpill is statistically proven in both economics and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:41 PM
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Yeah western women are really into eugenics it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:34 PM
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It is - you're essentially saying that your financial success is almost entirely dependent on what family you were born in, i.e. it's outside of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:38 PM
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Woah blackpilled about economy but not dating, crazy stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:33 PM
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I know, because you made that up - shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:27 PM
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Live with your parents or find a roommate to save money, or move to a lower cost area and work remotely, cook the meals yourself. If you think men can attract women with a personality, surely you can figure out how not to be poor in the richest country in the world too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:21 PM
1

Still can't quote anything? Shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:09 PM
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Quote the comment where I was complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:42 PM
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Nice try. People move to US from all over the world specifically for better wages, you have no clue how privileged you are to have been born here. Only a very small percentage of the U.S. workforce earns the federal minimum wage or less, around 1.0% to 1.1% of hourly workers in recent years (2023-2024), a significant drop from past decades, largely because many states and cities have higher minimums, though millions still earn low wages, often under $15/hour, especially in service jobs, with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:40 PM
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Go ahead then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:33 PM
1

If you can't make a decent living in a first world country then you're a loser, sorry to say that. In regards to social policies it's mostly ending the >2 genders nonsense, stopping the funding of organizations that waste money on LBTQ propaganda and indoctrinate children in schools, stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:32 PM
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Most women don't want to fuck their man, men and women also have different anatomies so women can generally take the dick much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:27 PM
1

Do you know what "citation means"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:24 PM
4

What if I'm short? Sperm banks have a minimum height threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:15 PM
1

I'll need a citation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:15 PM
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Yep, people who do things for approval are never going to be happy. Which is why so many normies say “don’t make everything you do about women.” Debatable, and most normies aren't happy or successful so their opinion is hardly worth considering. What if a guy does all the hard work for, wait for it... fulfilling his most powerful biological programming called reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:48 PM
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Not everyone whose opinion upsets you struggles with women, sorry to break it to you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:38 PM
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these aren’t the only men or the only reasons men pursue things, but they’re the loudest ones No, they just the most self-aware ones. Most people who claim to be doing hard things for politically correct / socially approved reasons are in fact delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:26 PM
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Value is subjective as women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:22 PM
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So basically they are making life more expensive for average people. Have you considered that an average person values things like sane social policies over cheaper food?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:44 PM
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Do y'all realize that we know what you're up to when you suggest swimming dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:02 PM
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In what way do they governmentally punish you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:57 PM
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White people are appealing to the largest amount of the western population, so their opinion is the most valuable in the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:56 PM
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I have zero reason to lie to anyone about my preferences You do, I've just explained what the reasons are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:45 PM
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Not every woman has it, like the person I was responding to since she thinks swimming for a woman leads to uglification.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:43 PM
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What would be the reason I would have to lie about that??? Women (in general, not you specifically) usually lie for 2 reasons: To virtue signal, which is self-explanatory To weed out bad genetics - the linked comment explains it quite well. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a5p5qb/discussion_what_do_women_have_to_gain_by_lying/ebocdkj/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:20 AM
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Selfish af.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:02 AM
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You think it'd be a good tradeoff? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:36 AM
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Why do you guys try to tell us what we like?? Because women lie about what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:33 AM
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Correction - you'd know you have no chance with them so you'd try to reject them first to save ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:31 AM
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They'd get less female attention if they had average bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:30 AM
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Face > body in the vast majority of cases, everyone knows that. It's about body in isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:28 AM
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Do y'all realize that we know what you're up to when you suggest swimming dates? You can always gaslight her and pretend that you're genuinely into swimming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:27 AM
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I'm not a woman, apologies for hurting your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:00 PM
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Powerful men get the most beautiful women, powerless men get scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:34 PM
1

People often mask jealousy with hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:25 PM
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I promise you, you don't know what other people think - if you did you'd become a billionaire via the stock market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:47 PM
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I meant a guy can find someone with lower N count if he doesn't wanna deal with her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:44 PM
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That's derailing but I'll entertain it - most people don't discuss these things outside of anonymous forums like reddit as it's detrimental to your social standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:47 PM
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Bringing something up doesn't mean being obsessed with it, that's a terminally online logic. Today I brought up snow in a conversation with my colleague, doesn't mean I'm obsessed with snow lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:43 PM
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Or you could find someone else lol, that is ignoring the fact that if you got unlucky with genetics she will never enjoy sex with you as much as she did with a genetically superior guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:42 PM
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You're yet to prove that I or someone else is obsessed bi-men's sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:38 PM
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No, but connections, no debt and steady employment are all either power or money related.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:33 PM
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You tried dodging twice lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:32 PM
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Show the stats first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:42 PM
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So, mainly power and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:34 PM
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Show me stats on how often each gender brings it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:33 PM
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I.e. it's about dick count not N count as my initial comment states. I'm not TRP, but they are less obsessed with it than women are as explained above.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:43 PM
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The point is women pretend to be much more accepting of the sexual past than they are - in reality men are much more forgiving in regards to high dick count and they don't mind dating bisexual women as much as vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:15 PM
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You've managed to half-assedly paraphrase my initial comment, congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:06 PM
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A high dick count male will have an exponentially harder time dating women than a high dick count female would dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:00 PM
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Both genders are, but women are more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:56 PM
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Never said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:53 PM
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Where do you think security comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:18 PM
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Always remember - it's not about N count, it's about dick count, and women are not any less negative about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:56 AM
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Depends. An introvert with average looks with get less sex than an extrovert with average looks. A good looking guy always has access to an unlimited supply of willing women on dating apps so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:52 AM
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the type of women they eventually want to settle down with (more conservative/traditional) shocker also care about body counts. Yes they do, but a man's body count is usually correlated with his attractiveness while a woman's isn't. Even the most traditional women won't pick an unattractive low N count guy over an attractive sexually experienced guy given the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:08 AM
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if she adjusted some of her more superficial standards she could find a man she could be happy with. That's the most common situation - a lot of women have very low standards in regards to non-superficial traits despite claiming otherwise, or else there wouldn't be so many complaints about men being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:14 AM
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Thats where the problem is. Through the lens of just world fallacy, sure it's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:11 AM
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Not sure what that has to do with my comment but feel free to keep wondering I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:58 PM
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It would only be decent advice for women. As a man to get sex you need to bring some type of value to the table, be it looks, money, or something else. Socializing is one of the ways to "advertise" your value, albeit less optimal than dating apps, but it's not enough on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:27 PM
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You will never get a huge ass naturally, women notoriously underestimate how hard and slow the muscle building process is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:36 PM
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Having a good non sexual time together isn't courting, that's just having a good time and I'm all for it. By courting I meant disproportional monetary, emotional or some other type of investment from the man's side being required in order for sex to happen. If she's an actual virgin I'm willing to court if needed tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:06 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:04 PM
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Boring is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:04 AM
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And I’d like to note here that your phrasing (“give it up for free”) shows exactly how you think of a date with a woman Actually I think that sex is a mutually enjoyable activity that doesn't entail any compensation from either party. But if you want to be courted I wanna make sure I'm not the first sucker to do it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:03 AM
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Only women can get away with being illiterate in life lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:28 PM
1

Read it again then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:24 PM
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And you learnt from me that your assumption about men was incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:23 PM
2

All the men I know have hobbies outside of social media too, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:21 PM
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Looks are far easier to obtain than financial success, and ironically they give far better returns if your goal is genuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:19 PM
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Have you looked at women? Most of them don't have hobbies outside of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:16 PM
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Start being sexual early in the convo and if she responds well you're most likely hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:15 PM
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It is clear you, and a whole lot of men, only actually desire the women who are sexually uninhibited and who are willing and eager to have causal sex very quickly with a man they barely know Or they don't want to court a woman who's been giving it up for free in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:10 PM
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Funny thing is when the ones who shame women for having casual sex are the people who want to have casual sex with women. Typically they just don't want to be those women's first "serious" partner lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:05 PM
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Provide the data showing that they are the ones expected to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:02 PM
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Both are expected to be nice, we're talking about who gets penalized more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:26 PM
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Men get socially punished more severely than women. The type of stuff women can do and say without getting jailed or cancelled is actually impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:05 PM
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Why especially the men? I thought women mature faster so a 24 year old woman with an 18 year old man is ever worse than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:15 AM
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Men don't hide it. In general men are much more open about their preferences and don't virtue signal anywhere near as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:12 AM
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aka money trumps looks. That is, assuming a guy likes unenthusiastic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:35 AM
1

Intrinsic value is far too subjective and prone to political correctness to be quantified.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:57 PM
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If he hid it which he should, yeah obviously, but it's irrelevant to the topic - women judge men for holding the same beliefs they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:45 PM
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I'm not talking about N-count, I'm talking about dick count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:43 PM
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Anything that makes you more or less attractive to the general population of the opposite sex affects your dating value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:42 PM
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It's perfectly related to the topic of bisexual men. Men are less attracted to women who had a lot of dicks inside them and women judge them for it (judge being calling them insecure, misogynists etc.), while women themselves are not attracted to men who had dick inside them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:36 PM
1

So women don't judge men for preferring lower N count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:18 PM
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Most women don't wanna date bi men because they judge them for having had dick inside them, same way men judge women for having had dick inside them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:00 AM
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I guess you have missed the "non judgemental" part, wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:54 AM
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I said disregarding sex positivity, so everything you said after "because" is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:20 AM
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Sure whatever, it just makes them hypocritical in a vacuum disregarding sex positivity if it helps you sleep better at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:13 AM
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Women contradict themselves for judging men for preferring women who had less dicks in them while rejecting men who had dicks in them. If you still don't get it I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:11 AM
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No, it's not Irrelevant red herring, and whataboutism to boot, but rather a direct counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:09 AM
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I'm referring to their looks and character, i.e. nothing to do with investments into a person who's reading the story while mentally masturbating to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:07 AM
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Generally speaking, society perceives women as less judgemental and more sex positive due to their virtue signaling. Never said it does. But if you're gonna judge men for preferring women who have slept with less men, then maybe you should follow your own logic and not disqualify men for sleeping with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:05 AM
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You can't insult someone into changing their preferences. The point is not to make women change their preferences, but to expose their fake sex positivity and non judgemental attitude. Lots of gullible guys fall for virtue signaling coming from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:52 AM
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Semantics. Most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:28 AM
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Yes, as I said which gets discarded if he's attractive on a primal level
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:11 AM
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The rule is to be/do something with an attractive guy No, the rule is allegedly a guy has to prove his serious long term intentions before sex happens, which gets discarded if he's attractive on a primal level. Most women don't admit that their rules have anything to do with guy's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:20 AM
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Why do they mentally masturbate to fictional characters and celebrities they never met then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:17 AM
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Congrats, you've just found out that dual mating strategy applies both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:30 PM
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Telling something they're beautiful isn't flirting, it's simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:00 PM
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Pretty sure I mentioned that I met them myself. Question is why do people assume they are so common if they don't commonly see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:54 AM
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Not sure how you got that from my comment. They do, they just don't cause fat gain - only excess calories do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:52 AM
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I agree with your OP. I just don't see how evolution ties into this - as I said if it was about evolution socially unfit men wouldn't get to reproduce and pass on their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:06 PM
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He doesn't have to be whiny or offensive to women at all to have them attack him. Even calmly stating that women select men mostly based on looks will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:00 PM
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So people are just theorizing about their existence without actually seeing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:45 PM
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Yeah with insulin resistance you can't process protein correctly either. The main cause of insulin resistance is excess fat tissue though, and nobody is born fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:44 PM
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So yeah, it totally makes sense in an evolutionary psych way that how he interacts does matter to her unconscious atavistic brain when it comes to triggering her arousal. Isn't it the opposite? If social skills were so important to women, all socially unfit male genes would be wiped out long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:42 PM
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Depends on how severely you lack in each of these aspects. I have to say though, it seems to me that people in this sub live in a different world sometimes. I can't even tell you when was the last time I ran into one of these socially awkward people that are supposed to be fairly common according to some people here. Maybe I meet one of them a year tops?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 06:24 PM
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nobody (hopefully🙄) really believes that women don’t have pores Unless you get uncomfortably close, it can be hard to tell if a woman has naturally clear skin or has a foundation on. Minimal makeup absolutely gets confused with no makeup all the time, women even make fun of men for that. Hell, a few women asked me if I'm using a foundation myself because of how clear my skin is. Shapewear? Sure, that can be deceptive but there are limits to what spandex can achieve. Chubby is still going to look…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:04 PM
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You pretty clearly stated that some "ugly" dudes are interesting in your eyes and some "good looking" guys are boring, that's what I was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:49 PM
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Only conventionally attractive women matter when talking about it from a self-improvement perspective. E.g. what body type should an average man strive to have? A muscular lean physique since that's what most attractive women prefer. The fact that mom bad women prefer dad bod men doesn't matter in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:23 AM
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From what I saw most "progressive" women are only progressive in areas where it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:42 AM
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Even the ugliest most vile woman can still fall into the "well she's at least fuckable" category It's funny how you think being vile has anything to do with being fuckable for any gender lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:24 AM
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Of course, his grandma told him so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:23 AM
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Almost ALL food in the US has additives, pesticides, and poisons None of which cause fat gain. Only excess calories do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:22 AM
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You're not the arbiter of what constitutes a relationship success, or what makes a person interesting / shallow though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:18 AM
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It is, especially to me as a non american guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:33 AM
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No, because he will make it harder for women to enjoy sex via abortion laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:40 PM
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That's just how biology works. Most adults know that humans', just like any other species' main biological goal is reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:32 AM
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I don’t actually care about mens lust at all. And that's why they voted for Trump lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:26 AM
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Not in that matter. Both men and women want to be wanted sexually by attractive people and don't want to be wanted sexually by unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:27 AM
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Porn advertises lotions that obviously don't work. I did things that worked in scientific research, so they worked in my case as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:22 AM
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They don't want to put in the effort, same as fat women I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:16 PM
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Same reason why women are triggered about fattie jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:43 PM
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This isn't really relevant. No where am I talking about "earning potential." I'm talking about the spirit of the OP - weighing personality vs looks It's refuting the myth that looks have a stronger influence on women's ability to find a partner than man's, which is directly relevant to your original comment claiming that women select mostly based on personality while men select mostly based on looks. Your second paper also isn't relevant. I'm sure fathers care less about who their own daughters'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:45 PM
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It's not about insecurities, it's about maximizing your appeal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:41 PM
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That's fair. I know that normal conditions are more online based so looks matter even more, but if I gave you data from the apps you'd like it even less I reckon. But here's a couple more: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236183331_The_Predictive_Validity_of_Ideal_Partner_Preferences_A_Review_and_Meta-Analysis The evolutionary perspective predicts that (a) the physical attractiveness correlations should be larger for men than for women and (b) the earning prospects correlations should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:34 PM
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Not sure how that follows. It's extremely easy to find a guy with a good personality, evidenced by most men having male friends. Do you have the links to all of these studies? If you're referring to women selecting men based mostly on looks, sure. https://www.kaggle.com/code/alaakhaled/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:11 PM
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You can change it - non surgical penis enlargement exists. See how quickly your argument falls apart,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 01:49 PM
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For most of the women here, I think dating standards are mostly personality based If that was the case, most women would have little to no issues in dating. In reality men and women have pretty similar sexual selection criterias evidenced by studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:16 PM
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That's nice of you. But yeah having a big dick is amazing, regardless of what reddit will tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:29 AM
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Thanks. Though now that I think about it, I don't need to argue whether it's compared in relative or absolute, since the main point still remains - women care about big dicks more relatively to men. Who drives porn trends isn't as relevant to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:05 AM
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What do you think? I said I've been doing it for multiple years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:58 AM
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You haven't substantiated your claim with stats regarding the % of male and female porn viewers, so I don't need to. The default assumption is it's 50/50,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:56 AM
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Relative to men. That doesn't say anything beyond being compared to them. What you think makes sense or not is irrelevant unless you can cite the methodology they used.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:47 AM
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That's too little info. What matters is general trends, and according to all the available data most women prefer bigger dicks, some prefer average or smaller. Personally, I've been practicing penis enlargement for the past few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:45 AM
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How do you know it's not compared in absolute number of views and searches?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:43 AM
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You don't need to make everyone happy, you just need to make the biggest number of people happy. That's how conventional attractiveness works. Most actually fit women would prefer to be with a gymbro. Insecure women probably wouldn't, but they are usually unattractive anyway so it's not a big loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:40 AM
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But seriously some women like big dick, some don’t mind, some prefer smaller. Most women prefer bigger dicks, and some don't or prefer smaller. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:38 AM
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Think about porn. It’s primarily catered to male prefefences (since men are the main consumers) and porn actors often have very large penises. Porn caters to men for the most part yeah. But when it comes to big dicks specifically, it's there mostly for women, evidenced by view and search stats. pornhub-men-women-top-searches-relative_2.png (500×529) pornhub-men-women-top-categories-relative_2.png (500×532)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:34 AM
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