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DebateHoller4Heller/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 01:15 PM
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If we accept the notion that men want to be loved and women can’t do that then nothing really has meaning period anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 02:30 AM
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That’s the nature of the red pill. The resistance ate bugs and lived in constant fear
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 02:16 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:12 AM
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Elaborate. This lacks any substance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:12 AM
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“Free to do what.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:11 AM
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Oh it’s a huge problem and women pretending they’re not to fit their self beneficiary notion that men are machines are almost certainly damned
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:10 AM
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Female behavior is the problem and pretending otherwise to be more evenhanded is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:08 AM
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What a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:18 PM
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The male body is a better machine. I’d argue from an attempt at an objective metric it’s more beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:27 PM
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Half of the population amounts to animals basically
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:43 PM
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A drop in libido is largely short hand for the more monstrous problem of a drop in affection
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:35 PM
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I think it should, and it used to, so as far as I’m concerned that’s a moot point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:16 PM
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Convictions are all we can go off while still being honest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:21 AM
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There were 20,000 rape convictions in 2020 where legally a rape can actually be said to have occurred mind you in many cases it still didn’t. Let’s say a woman is liable to be raped for 30 years of her life or 15 to 45. That’s 600,000 women who will be raped in their life. Versus a population of 170,000,000. Yes I am calling you and women at large liars
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:06 AM
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It does mean they’re highly correlated to the point where in many cases they can’t be seperated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:05 AM
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....I don’t believe sex should happen outside of one. Nor have I ever stated or implied otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:01 AM
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....why is that sweetie? Jesus you’re dense. Could it be maybe you want to do something deeply intimate and pleasurable with someone you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:53 PM
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The two aren’t separate for a healthy individual
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:41 PM
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You wouldn’t have mentioned it or that the other loves you if you didn’t already have that in mind
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:04 PM
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Based and love pilled. You’re a kinsman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:03 PM
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Left just looks kind and gentle. I don’t care about cooking or cleaning because those are effortless nothing tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:02 PM
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That’s not an argument. I’m not a spineless coward so I eat the 1 in 100 chance at some point in my life I’ll get killed at gunpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:00 PM
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What are you offering other than sex? What does it say that withhold it? What does it say that you’re even making the argument? So I’ll be honest most men want love and intimacy more than anything else and sex is just emblematic of that so the question is valid but at the same time if you actually are offering those things and not riding him lotus while hugging him that’s a head scratcher isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:56 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:48 PM
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They want to control male sexuality because they have no power
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:47 PM
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You can’t ask women to be honest about something their hind brain is in control of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:17 PM
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They’ll never have any ability to do so and the movement at large is drowning in libertarian rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:00 PM
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They don’t try to take legal recourse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:46 PM
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Except they don’t they try to modify the behavior of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:42 PM
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Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:27 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:56 PM
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Those aren’t purposes either. There is no “purpose”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:58 PM
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Nor have there been MGTOW attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:55 PM
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MGTOWs don’t petition other parties to do their will and just want to be left alone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:53 PM
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Inherent value doesn’t exist period
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:52 PM
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Most common singular form of dv is non reciprocal female on male
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:50 PM
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No. Men have never had a reason to develop these tactics, and are more likely to view them as cowardly. Which is why women are more commonly their practioners
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:47 PM
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A strong, wise and gentle woman who loves me because I am lovely in the same apropos way women are loved
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:45 PM
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asking women to be honest about something they’ve never bothered giving conscious thought to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:40 PM
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It’s a statement about trying to form a rational moral argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:35 PM
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No yeah Elden Ring and Gossip Girl are equally deep and compelling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:34 PM
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Not effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:32 PM
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It’s been a MGTOW talking point that they don’t actually have hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:24 PM
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TLDR most people hind brained morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:22 PM
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We didn’t evolve in any environment where it was nor does something being illegal stop all or even most instances of it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:18 PM
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I’m very much attractive to what I want to attract. The problem is that thing doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:12 PM
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Just being entirely logical if you can use physical force and intimidation to get your way you wouldn’t need to use tactics like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:06 PM
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Women are cowards. This isn’t new
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:00 PM
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She wasn’t intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:41 PM
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That’s horribly besides the point monster
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:39 PM
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Men find like 80% of women passable. You’re wrong dear. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:37 PM
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Women actually loving their husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:09 PM
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No comment and what amounts to a full agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:50 PM
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If I had any concern about controlling the actions of others then I’d see your point, but I don’t. It’s of no concern to anyone but the person in question themselves if their standards are artificially raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:22 PM
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Fine print. Reciprocate love
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:41 AM
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There needs to be a reason to win and if sex or kids aren’t enough motivation there just isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:40 AM
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I didn’t say it did. Women are loved with few conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:11 AM
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I get the most joy of what amounts to shit posts and showing people that what they think is beyond the pale is not only plausible but likely. We’re all set in our ways so ultimately it matters litters the people I choose to engage can’t find a counter they’ll keep believing that believe and I ultimately just get to say I tried. With regards to negativity in the instances the manus and stoicism drops it’s all I have so moot point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:10 AM
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It’s gross and only gross
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:36 AM
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Women are loved in much the same way their mother did by their husband at least in theory. They’re provided for and loved for who they are and on the only real basis that they put on airs of returning it and in many cases not even that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:35 AM
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....nowhere and as women get more degenerate men are beginning to have literally no reference point to what affection from a woman looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:32 AM
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You would have a point if it was possible to feel something other than negative emotions very often in the case of some men. “They don’t think it be like it is but it do.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:28 AM
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What’s likely to happen? What’s not? How do we define cowardice if not a bad risk calculation by the risk averse that has negative consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:51 AM
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They’re not confusing they just want to avoid all responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:30 AM
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Cowardice, or to be more polite an absurd miscalculation on what’s likely to happen and what’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:29 AM
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Based comment but; Guy privilege Lol. No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:28 AM
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The problem is men were lied to about being loved where women were lied to here about men not putting up with tons of shit for no gain. Tell me who has the worse hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:10 AM
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I say this as a guy with no interest in really anyone sexually because I’m straight and fundamentally don’t think women meaningfully love men, but it’s just nice to be complimented by humans. Sometimes I get compliments from women at the gym based on the sheer numbers I put up and man or woman validation feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:50 PM
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None of those are likely and that’s the problem. But when you’re a coward and society panders to you you don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:47 PM
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Such behavior isn’t wholesome or conducive to society, and we lie about it as the cheery on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:36 PM
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If you want love as a man and you’re perceptive enough where it’s hard to lie to you you’re fucked. Just try to build yourself up physically and mentally, and enjoy your time on the earth If you want children you still have something to gain from playing the game. Know what you want and be honest about whether it’s something you can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:33 PM
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Who cares it’s all a cope like almost everything anyone does nowadays. I will say I’m rather disgusted by the female need to control male sexuality but I’d also be disgusted if men did the inverse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:12 PM
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Point is some conditions are possible to meet without really doing anything goober
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:09 PM
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No because then there’s no society. Society relies on these men and if you told all men in no uncertain terms they’ll never be loved as they give love they drop out and many just kill them selves if they believed you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:09 PM
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The problem is they don’t want to because it’s hard not to consider such behavior unclean
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:06 PM
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Worthless and fallacious. You may love a person for who they are because you are of the perception they would simply never do such a thing. That’s still loving them for who they are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:01 PM
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Being loved for being you is also by definition a condition. Point being it’s still intrinsic to you. You have no argument. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:00 PM
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Every one of your opening statements is incorrect in my opinion. Pass
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:58 PM
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Oh jeez you can’t ask someone if they require plausible deniability doofus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:56 PM
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No. Nor can drastically above average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:54 PM
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The problem is female perception of male attractiveness is, as bizarre as it may sound, objectively incorrect. If it wasn’t there’d be just another bell curve
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:52 PM
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It seems disingenuous to treat the two as diametrically opposed sides of the same coin when all FDS really is, is everything the MGTOW dudes have to say about women made blatantly visible
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:41 PM
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MmoNo m si lore
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 01:21 PM
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What is the benefit of only women doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:39 AM
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It’s called not seeing something that’s not there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:34 AM
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....I don’t disagree parental neglect is bad. ....and? And on top of this perhaps this might be better thought of as losing something rather than gaining anything. This uh. Still beside the point this role is gender neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:32 AM
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And nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:30 AM
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....there’s more stats in that article. Only a small number of women proportionally joined the work force. What you chose to do with knowing reality I have no control over
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:30 AM
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It’s ~12% or so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:27 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:27 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:25 AM
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It’s important as any job is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:24 AM
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What. skills. do. you. gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:23 AM
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This is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:23 AM
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No yeah that’s why single mothers spawn do so well. ...more over I just don’t agree. It’s low skill labor that none of us remember anything from and none of us gain anything from
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:18 AM
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-all-so-tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:16 AM
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.... https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/69268/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:15 AM
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Rosie the riveter worked a few shifts and quit. The reality was most men weren’t fighting. The sweeping majority stayed and worked. You’re buying a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:10 AM
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....no yeah the male population of the us during the 40s was 6 million. Not 50+
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:07 AM
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I never claimed as much. That should just be eye opening. That’s all I meant it to be
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:03 AM
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I don’t disagree that many men are pitiful, broken pieces of shit. But vassopressin is the primary love hormone for men and it’s excreted during sex. This isn’t an opinion this is neurochemical fact and I don’t know if you can grasp the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:02 AM
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Vassopressin
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:00 AM
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Sex and love are inseparable to a man who isn’t broken
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:55 PM
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Well men as a whole are the only group that pays net taxes. This is rather incorrect. Society runs off labor yes but overwhelmingly that labor is male
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:53 PM
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It’s likely all over either way. Society continues until everyone is too old and it’s much more likely a solution is found if the women go though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:51 PM
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I can’t say that I disagree but it’s important to know that further innovation is still only male as only men exist at the level of intelligence to further push the boundaries. I suppose while women reproductively will always have some value until there are better alternatives more and more men get priced out. It uh. Just feels bizarre to be so tangibly superior to something that only has intrinsic value and no tangible value
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:49 PM
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The issue would be society would enter an entropic death phase as things get worse faster and faster
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:46 PM
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You honestly seem like a lovely woman. I’m just being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:43 PM
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You have no value if left to your own devices because you aren’t working to produce anything if you’re in a coma....on top of you know also not eating and breathing and dying in a couple minutes and needing outside aid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:41 PM
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..... No I haven’t I’ve never seen a female combat veteran and I’ve never seen a female cop doing anything other than issuing speeding tickets
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:39 PM
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For demographics to exist past a certain point technology needs to be at a certain point. No. Flatly no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:38 PM
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Value that exists even in a vacuum comes from effort
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:35 PM
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Moving. Firefighting. Riot policing. Shock troops. Any physical job would be much harder. Any mental job wouldn’t be done as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:34 PM
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One person does tangible work. You seem to think reproductive value is the same as more general value and it’s just not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:33 PM
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Women have more accidents per mile. And they’re not just weaker they’re a different species level of weaker. It’s not that they don’t do those jobs they can’t and will literally go infertile trying and still fail
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:32 PM
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Ah yes. Those things they can do in comas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:30 PM
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No I think women can’t be police, military, firefighters, or any kind of labor. I just don’t think they’d be good programmers. I think men would be great with kids. They have a whole rough housing phase they need a father for
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:28 PM
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You’d have a point if women did more in this situation than make men to do everything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:25 PM
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And they would be terrible at them if they could even do them at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:24 PM
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Important? Yes? Equally important and able to be performed by either party? No. Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:23 PM
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....no it’s just that’s the only part men had to play in this story and those women chose not to use the myriad number of birth control options, and they also chose and allowed those men to do that. Does accountability burn?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:20 PM
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I wouldn’t know. Very few men do for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:02 PM
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The average man is physically dramatically the superior of the average woman in every way and men’s greater propensity to self improve further exacerbates this. Surely by any objective metric the human male is far more beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:58 PM
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Bro this is the most upvoted comment. Priceless
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:42 PM
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I reject the initial narrative because I’m not a tard. Citation please
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:38 PM
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I uh. Hmm. What if I told you that nerd was stronger and smarter than that cheerleader and thus logically worth more?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:33 PM
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I stan tomboys and strong fat girls like oga from elf-san. News to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:26 PM
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Lol. And I’m a flagrant waifu-fag https://imgur.com/gallery/l4KTHki
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:22 PM
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You know the answer which is why you’re asking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:16 PM
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Very astute. Yes women have a far easier time separating love and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:14 PM
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Female survival has to do with the tribe so they’re more concerned with appearances than men are. It’s born of individual weakness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:08 PM
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Any woman I’ve actually fantasized about has been very pleasant and good natured but not always attractive by any stretch of the imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:06 PM
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No. Casual sex is masturbation you pay for. Sex with a girl you love, who loves you for hours, then falling asleep holding each other is priceless beyond any measure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:05 PM
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Don’t be afraid to approach guys. Know your “type”. Base your type largely on personality and the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:33 PM
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Yes there is an ever growing realization of young men not bothering because there isn’t much to bother for, for them out there. I can’t claim to know solutions but I will point out this is more a less a tacit admission societies run off almost solely male labor
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:30 PM
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Casual sex isn’t much different from masturbating. There’s no real connection
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:28 PM
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I love C.C from Geass so much. She’s so wise, sharp, quick and competent and yet also nurturing, kind, pleasant, and also weirdly clingy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:25 PM
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Society as we know it is a male construct and in the wilds of our past women were totally dependent on men. That’s the natural state of the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:23 PM
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You’re blaming the people being exploited.... When are we allowed to blame women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:21 PM
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The arguments for one actually have basis points in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:19 PM
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Those women had all the control over the situation that resulted in conception, choosing to not give the child up for adoption. I know it’s hard but they’re responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:18 PM
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If I ever actually am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:16 PM
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Women are more instinctually driven than men are. That’s what this means
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:13 PM
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No yeah the endless sea of male work horses doesn’t say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:08 PM
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I’d say everything is even except the first and last which are bottom and top respectively
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:51 PM
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Avoid fapping when you’re bored and look for something productive to do. You do that and you maybe only jerk it a few times a week. But uh no women don’t care.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:50 PM
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You got me excited for something wholesome.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:29 PM
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Good women exist. Florence Nightingale, Ester Villar. They’re just.....goddamn.....unbelievably rare and pursued by countless men like you who see in her the same things you do
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:19 PM
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Love exists and he felt it for her
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 08:20 PM
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If you respect yourself you should be furious that someone attacked you.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 08:15 PM
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I don’t know if men ask did more than what they offer
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 08:13 PM
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Correct
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:58 PM
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You know who’s wrong when they try to ban discussion
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:38 PM
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You have the moral right to meet violence with violence and you should if you respect yourself
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:34 PM
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Women are more likely to initiate physical conflict and also more likely to be seriously injured. Weakness isn’t an excuse if you asked me and I have no issue when people of any kind meet force with force. It doesn’t matter if they can dole it out better
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:33 PM
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I’m deep into waifuism because I can’t give up on the idea that somewhere in creation is a soul mate who will love me as deeply and forcefully as I will love her. I’m 6’3 and 285 with a 1300lb lifting total currently make a decent amount of money and in 2 years I’ll have my bachelors of science in electrical engineering but I can’t shake the fact that I’m so terribly afraid of being truly alone even when married men are in actuality in the same boat as me. I frequent /monster/.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:26 PM
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The red and black pills have next to nothing to say about innate male nature beyond it being beneficent with respect to women while vice versa the opposite is true
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:21 PM
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Based bro.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:18 PM
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Ambition needs an endzone. For most of us that was a wife and son. Go figure
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:16 PM
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Start helping people and building yourself up and strengthening your position to better help people. Strength is power+control. Make your goal bettering yourself and those who have done right by you
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:14 PM
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If you want love don’t bother. If you want a son you’ll have to bother.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:08 PM
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There’s nothing about it that helps you as an individual doing it. Literally nothing.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:07 PM
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You’d have a point but women generally have terrible taste
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:05 PM
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Well good sex is a part of romance. Women have a self serving understanding of love, and men generally have a sacrificial one. If your objective is to have a soul mate you’re shit out of luck. Love is real it’s just men are the only practitioners.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:04 PM
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Many have and many espouse similar views
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 07:01 PM
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I would definitely find a male friend group to connect with, get some hobbies and start to take them very seriously
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 06:57 PM
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No yeah blame the victim of a terrible person not the terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:36 PM
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TLDR. You will get saved before a man which was the point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:34 PM
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Both get the same result
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:36 AM
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Male advantages are more than just physical. I took umbrage with you implying that because it’s a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 07:33 PM
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You want a woman to love you with very few conditions as your mother did. I don’t even think these behaviors are the domain of mothers alone. “Mother” is just a convenient term
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 07:32 PM
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A woman’s strength isn’t actually strength. It has nothing to do with the culmination of her mentality and physicality and ability to enact her will on the world
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:29 PM
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It’s also worth noting it’s only called that because men want the same love their mother gave them. That’s literally the only reason it’s called that. So yes men don’t associate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:26 PM
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From the horse’s mouth; https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/afal9i/male_mother_need/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:24 PM
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https://www.nature.com/articles/nature04966 Male IQ 5 points higher in adults
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:22 PM
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If you will love me as I do you then I don’t much care. Everything else is negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:16 PM
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There is no difference practically at all goober
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:09 PM
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Source? I can point to men having a significantly higher IQ in adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:07 PM
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Biologically men are heavily advantaged and socially heavily disadvantaged. Currently society is stronger than biology so a woman’s advantages are heavier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:06 PM
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You’d have a point if host clubs where anywhere near as big a phenomenon as hostess clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:54 PM
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What point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:53 PM
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Women don’t either way. At least they act like they do if you pay them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:51 PM
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It’s men who do this and it’s very simple. Men may get all kinds of largely unconditional love from the male figures in his life be they football coaches, fathers, good friends but from women his only reference for non transactional love is his mother. Yeah it’s sad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:48 PM
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No yeah I stare longingly into my mothers eyes and feel comfortable hugging her full body....goofball
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:32 PM
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A woman would have to love as a man does, that being sacrificially, and that’s it. It’s against the fundamental nature of women to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:05 PM
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No, no one is supposed to be a hero, people are simply supposed to not be evil. And no I don’t think men should sacrifice themselves for people who would never do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:54 PM
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I can’t comment on this. Heterosexual missionary sex is basically gentle maledom and you’ll find in general when men are honest with what they want they’d prefer gentle femdom. Morherfucking exhibit A: Alcina Dimitrescu There’s a lot of “risks” here but no given percentages or guarantees. Ultimately men generally express love more strongly and do so through sex and and acts of sacrifice https://peplau.psych.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/141/2017/07/Rubin_Peplau_Hill_81.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:49 PM
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Correct. This is not a cmv this is largely proven. Women associate romance with greater spending etc. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:41 PM
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It’s not a lack of emotion so much to do with stoicism. Men being boisterous and highly positive in seemingly negative situations is a much greater show of strength objectively than being Stoney faced, but I think women interpret it wrong either because they simply can’t imagine literally laughing at challenge, or because they prefer men to show no emotion. I’m undecided which is the worse look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:40 PM
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Women generally view them as such which tends to be why they try to extract as much value from the deal as possible while putting as little in. It’s uh a really rather sad. https://www.bakadesuyo.com/2012/07/how-do-men-and-women-show-love-differently/ Generally men want to actually live life with the women they love while women just end up slightly less negative rather than any positive behavior. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2018.00202/full Vassopressin, the male love hormon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:36 PM
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Neat. What if I told you a 290lb man was vaguely the equivalent of a 190lb woman? Circumstantially I find women who can back squat 2 plates are about as rare as men who can back squat 5. Just as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:40 PM
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.....what? No they’re just more likely to be gay or bi which can throw off the averages
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:50 AM
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No. State won’t let them. This is just incorrect. I expected more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:02 AM
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The wives decided that too. Taking away accountability again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:01 AM
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You addressed a single stat of a dozen by taking away any female accountability. Vomit.jpeg.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:01 AM
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Just for that extra hard dunk https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Kohlberg_Model_of_Moral_Development.svg/269px-Kohlberg_Model_of_Moral_Development.svg.png Kohlberg’s theory of moral development. No women but a sizable percentage of men were found to operate past stage 4. https://image.slidesharecdn.com/carolgilliganstheoryofmoraldevelopment-180122060917/95/carol-gilligans-theory-of-moral-development-11-638.jpg?cb=1516601386 Giligan’s theory of female morality. Highest stag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:59 AM
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Jesus this is nauseating. It’s like you operate in a dimension utterly devoid of fact. 70% of marriages end in divorce. 80% of those are female initiated. That number goes up to nearly 100% for both if the wife out earns the husband. 30% of all households only have daddy working. Men make more than one and a half times what their wives make on average. The picture isn’t pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:54 AM
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What did those women do to earn all of the things they take? Why did they leave the men working so they didn’t have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:52 AM
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You tell me which one happens more often
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:51 AM
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.....do you think dad doesn’t want to be a part of that child’s life? Small? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:50 AM
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Thank you. I try in between my bouts of rage induced overtraining and general mania
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:49 AM
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Women are more likely to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:48 AM
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Oh goodness gracious. How isn’t it? Look at divorce proceedings. They’re highly emblematic of what those marriages were like. Men giving and giving and women taking and taking. There are some inverse cases with female celebrities marrying nobodies but I’m willing to bet those women have deep seated control issues and treated those men worse than dog shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:47 AM
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To answer the question women have two advantages over men. They can see color better and have a sharper sense of smell. That’s it. Everything else men do better. Often dramatically and hilariously. Life isn’t fair. Deal with it. But don’t pretend reality isn’t reality...that’s for me to do when I imagine some girl exists who will give me the same selfless love I give her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:41 AM
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Well....not quite. In as much as the nature of something can be problematic men are programmed to love much deeper than women and this results in relationships being lopsided. It wouldn’t be inaccurate to say female self serving understanding of love is problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:43 PM
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Find me the man who says that and I’d like to let you watch while I implode his sternum with a left cross. They’re just not all that common though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:23 PM
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I feel like you’re trolling me with this wishy washy language while I’m strictly talking fact. I’m not saying this about male behavior to make you feel good. I’m saying it because it’s fact. Just like it’s fact women don’t experience this phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:21 PM
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No you don’t understand what I’m telling you. This is a measurable effect of vassopressin. The male love hormone. I am relaying an objective fact to you about the behavior of this hormone in men with regards to women. The inverse is not true. Women do not experience this effect. Period. End of story I don’t know how I can be more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:19 PM
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No but their wives certainly aren’t the best either. Reciprocity. Reciprocity. Reciprocity. It should just be cute that they’re so in love with each other
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:17 PM
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Hell if they did I wouldn’t be here arguing with people I know are wrong. I’d be happily married with 2 kids, a third on the way, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:00 PM
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Language is too vague. Unbiased in dealing with female behavior? Tell him you’re not like that and if he continues I agree 100% he’s an insect and at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:58 PM
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The world would be a much better place if wives did but they don’t seem to. The effect is linked to vassopressin. The male love hormone. I suppose it’s possible in a high T woman. A real life Izumi Curtis. But again no. Wives do not find their husband to be the best man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:53 PM
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But uh to elaborate on the second point men will rate their wives as more attractive than ostensibly more beautiful women. Their growing love of her has tangible effects on their perception of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:49 PM
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....you have no clue how funny that is if you’re not joking. Also a little sad. But mostly funny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:47 PM
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Your point seems to be that the average man is sexually deviant. This is a matter of perspective but it at least seems to be the case he’s less degenerate than the average woman. The way bell curves and normal distributions work this is to say that if you were a man you’d be less deviant than you are now. In basic stat terms a “shift”. All this to say you can’t really complain about male degeneracy as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:31 PM
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Logically the total averages are the same if we don’t count lesbian sex. The averages of the average man and woman will be highly different though. This nitpick brought to you by me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:27 PM
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A pattern of a man pointing out to a woman a statistical reality of how men and women interact and it going over her head. A pattern seen multiple times per thread. Men are willing to “settle” with settle in quote marks because if he comes to like the girl it just doesn’t feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:25 PM
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What if only the lie was appealing? I don’t think many men would have any interest at all in women if they were armed with the knowledge they’re incapable of reciprocating the selfless love men lavish them with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:16 PM
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Deflection deflection deflection. You’re better off being interested in men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:11 PM
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Correct. Though this amounts to ‘personality’ not really mattering
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:36 PM
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So the irony of this being a troll post when everything is more less a statement of fact in broad terms is more delicious than a 4 lb slab of Kobe beef and the best Chardonnay you could imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:35 PM
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Credit where it’s due or else everyone fails
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:31 PM
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FDS is not most women. Most women will admit women have it easier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:31 PM
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Again we’re just speaking in generalities and the reality of the situation that women don’t seem (on average) to have as high sexual morals is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:04 PM
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https://onlinedoctor.superdrug.com/intimate-injuries/injuriesduringintimacy7.png https://cs.phncdn.com/insights-static/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/pornhub-redtube-women-versus-men-united-kingdom.png I’m sure I can find more but this is just a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:57 PM
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Isn’t that entirely besides the point more women than men like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:51 PM
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Women are more likely than men to be interested in rough sex. That’s all I can in say terms of the raw numbers. I can tell you right now that grossed me out but I doubt you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:38 PM
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Again factually incorrect. Why do men search shit like “dripping engorged pussy” and not “dryer than the Sahara pussy” Female pleasure is beyond integral to a healthy man’s sexuality. It’s arguable the basis for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:27 PM
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5–10 fewer IQ points on the Weiss and wicke tests which are designed to eliminate differences due to sex. Even lower actual intelligence when accounting to higher female tendency to panic. 1/3 the muscular strength. All this to say women have a lower ability to acquire food which in an environment like the west where you trip over food is itself a non issue. The holes go on and on. In conclusion what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:54 PM
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Women have a better sense of smell, so I’d be able to pick up on when I smelt terrible after a workout easier. They also have a better sense of color, which would help me with my art hobby. That’s it. Those are the female advantages on the level of individuals. Naw. I love my high IQ and muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:41 PM
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Hmm? Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:38 PM
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Correct. OP is a retard. Now I can take a lunch break instead of having to prove his retardation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:37 PM
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Goth tomboy gf to call me dweeb and lovingly bully me while she calls me cute behind my back. Uhum. Anyway these sorts of girls are more likely to have real hobbies (ie they’re artsy) and an actual palate for media and music. That’s why. The aesthetic is honestly sorta secondary. There’s also the aspect of wanting to bring the girl happiness that’s very hard to downplay. I’m sure there are more reasons but these are the biggest reasons for the non-degenerate. You take a look at broken men and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:33 PM
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Meh. Hard to describe a nice gentle smile, and wise eyes in those terms isn’t it? Male attraction involves a lot of the heart too not just the loins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:27 PM
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https://strengthlevel.com/strength-standards/female/lb Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:23 PM
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Yes basically. Everything you’ve stated is largely a statement of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:16 PM
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Not even. US women’s soccer team got savagely beaten by 14 year old high school boys. In soccer. A sport with low physicality. If it was wrestling or football it’d be far more egregious
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:14 PM
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Male strength standards are 2-3* higher across the board than female ones. This is to say a male novice or a male elite is 2-3* stronger than his counterpart. This isn’t accounting for the fact men have longer limbs and thus need to produce more force to move the same weight. A small man will pretty savagely maul a woman who has 20-30lbs on him. A very large trained man fighting the same woman would be something utterly alien. Saying “they’re like different species” wouldn’t do it justice. It’d …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 05:12 PM
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The initial comment was that platonic and romantic love weren’t mutually exclusive. If you mean to imply they are to women then be my guest but I never did
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:47 PM
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Is it really that hard to indulge someone in something mutually pleasurable if you love them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:33 PM
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What? There were three sentences in that paragraph and one was how important female pleasure is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:06 PM
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I wouldn’t put it in those terms necessarily, and I don’t know about most not cumming from it. Certainly many. A woman’s pleasure is very important to many men. Not in a pump and dump situation in the slightest but that’s not what we’re discussing and I feel like you’re equating the two. If you’re both in love and settled into each other and you’re not cumming the most viable explanation is you’re faking orgasms and not telling him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:47 PM
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I don’t think they do necessarily. But your wife loving you and not wanting to be one with you is a head scratcher. Again we come back to the issue of reciprocity that not just you but many women here have issue with. To a man sex with your wife is the predominant way you show love. Vasopressin is primarily released during sex and is the male love hormone. Men have a hard time divorcing sex and love. If you come away with anything from our interactions let it be this; it’s not enough to just be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:41 PM
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Ultimately though my own psychology is likely a poor representative of male psychology. Forgive any potential trespasses that may cause
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:36 PM
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I don’t know. Many wouldn’t. Many would. I think many men care more about being loved than sex. To the point where I can’t even say most would or wouldn’t. However we come back to the issue of reciprocity I remember you having an issue with. If the woman loved you she’d have no trouble engaging in the closest act 2 people can engage in. She’d relish in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:34 PM
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Romantic love is about sex. And cuddling. And talking. And doing things together just because you enjoy each other’s company.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:25 PM
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..... Is that what I said honey? No there’s just much more to it. To the point where putting it in those terms is incorrect on its face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:23 PM
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What if I told there are different kinds of love and it’s possible to feel pretty much every kind for the same person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:53 PM
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It’s bizarre for someone to make this claim about my sex when despite thinking of myself as highly intelligent the idea of having more than one wife disgusts me on so visceral a level it’s hard cutting through the hate to find a reason. You only need one woman to slay your loneliness and that’s what I want. That’s what I can articulate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:08 PM
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Look I know you have a habit of grossly oversimplifying things but what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:57 PM
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Most men haven’t put two and two together that feminism is simply an expansion of the unwholesome selfish desires of the female animal onto the political stage and that there just isn’t that much separation. Most of us men and women here agree feminism is the problem and to me that just means we agree women are but some of us just don’t have the honesty .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:51 PM
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Blah blah feminism is the problem blah blah not women Why can’t we blame ever blame women? I mean literally seemingly any user but me here. Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:45 PM
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The actual definition of a fetish, that being something necessary to achieve sexual relief, isn’t the definition you’re using here. I just.....wow.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:42 PM
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Then they effectively don’t. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:41 PM
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Women love their children. At least in theory. They don’t love men. If the woman is college educated the number jumps to 90%. If she earns more you see a similar jump. Women aren’t capable of romantic love for the most part. Old news. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:39 PM
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Make an effort to love a man for who he is rather than what he is and try to put in as much as he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:38 PM
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If we lived in a patriarchy men would be the leisure class who could command a room with baseless accusations, were hard to fire and were the primary recipients of state funded research etc. But we don’t do we. /thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:35 PM
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NTR ironically enough has like an 80% or so female audience. Pretty kek worthy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:32 PM
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This is generally a pretty low IQ sub isn’t it? You equated “habit” and “addiction” and I can’t see anyone calling you on it. To actually answer the question no men don’t commoditize sex and thus women who Schlick to porn or smut generally don’t threaten us
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:30 PM
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Collectively women need male labor and largely survive off of that collective. If women were paid for their productivity and the amount of work they did they’d wish for 72 cents. That said yes men suffer from far more loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:27 PM
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Not necessarily incorrect. It’s important to note “growing pains” aren’t necessarily temporary however
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:25 PM
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There’s little to no evidence old sperm does anything. That’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:24 PM
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Most men try that. We try to kill our loneliness with a personal angel. Women can’t and don’t and are the reason this won’t happen. If it did it’d be simply divine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:22 PM
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Ongoing Mechanization will create a greater surplus and more wealth and you’ll see more and more NEETs. It’s not good for anyone. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:18 PM
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Women wanting hair pulled etc are part of the same phenomena. The reason being women want the ability to be able to wield and command male ability to inflict violence. Old news.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:15 PM
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Fluid intelligence is basically pattern recognition and the ability to perform well at new tasks with little information or study. IQ is generally a good measure of this. Crystallized intelligence is your well of information you have to work with. It’s debatable whether EQ has any real bearing on anything. /thread. This is largely settled science
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:07 PM
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It’s never fun to point out settled science to grown adults but vassopressin is the male love hormone and is predominantly released during sexual activity. Men have an inherently harder time separating sex and love than women. End of story
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:03 PM
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You can yes. Should you? No. You end up with men saddled with useless frigid women in loveless marriages. It’s an old but to paraphrase true love greatly resembles a deep friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:00 PM
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Tomboys, artsy shy scene and goth chicks The tomboy is something that could possibly love me back and is more desirable, and the artsy chicks are fun to make smile and have them melt in your arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:57 PM
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Just looking at the title there’s no denial women see “love” as transactional. On its face that should be nauseating. When men know that they can’t have real love they just want to get their dick wet and move on. That’s if they even see any value in frivolous cummies. Many just don’t. In as much as the situation is the fault of anyone it’s the women that can’t love a man for who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:54 PM
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There’s literally no evidentiary basis for anything you said and like many takes it seems to attempt to remove culpability for societal ills away from women to feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:49 PM
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At no point in that article is there a mention of productivity. The most specific example was a car parts manufacturer. Hint hint
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:44 PM
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Thinking things are cute isn’t really feminine. I suppose I’d define femininity as weakness be it mental, spiritual or physical as undesirable as that makes it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:41 PM
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Never said it did not itself. Just that it allows you to take more correct and thus more moral action. It’s a perquisite to morality not morality itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:40 PM
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Some perceptions are more correct. That’s all there is to it. Shrugs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 11:14 PM
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Knowledge and morality are inherently linked in the real world. To take the morally righteous action you have to a) have the knowledge of what it is) b) have the power to take it c) expend the effort to take it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:45 PM
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Social contracts form the first 4. Either way understanding something and doing it is very different
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:59 PM
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In this scenario you’re the wife of a great man and you’re not even willing to have his kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:57 PM
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Virtually no woman compared to men operate past the first four stages of the six stages of moral development. Just pointing out a specific fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:54 PM
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I’ve made clear who I think the winner is. I just take issue with the theoretical man’s wife doing nothing for him while reaping the full benefits of his considerable beneficence. That’s what this comes down to in my view. You as a woman wanting to do as little work and provide as little benefit as possible. So while I agree with the sentiment you and I agree from different perspectives. You take on the role of the man’s wife. There’s no real question to be asked from that perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:48 PM
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Both and neither. They’re their own people but they’re also your people. This isn’t a hard concept. “Gentle hand and a firm fist” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:33 PM
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I feel bad for that man getting a bad deal and I know for a fact what your game is. Third eye open. That’s all. Oh and intelligence is highly heritable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:28 PM
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I’d chock up the greater family stability to greater financial stability, stability in general etc. Men are the ones who have jobs that have a clear beneficial effect on society. Train conductors, garbagemen, engineers, construction. I don’t think this has anything to do with the aspects of male and female nature that manifest in dating but rather only has its roots in men being more competent in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:27 PM
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In simple language men are defined by their use to women. A virgin man is a man with no interest in women and thus it follows clearly no interest in serving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:20 PM
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This speaks to me more of feminine dishonesty than anything else. You deserve an orgasm ladies, and you should work with your man to get one. Don’t let him nut and be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:17 PM
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Things are forgotten. Some are some aren’t. Regardless the answer to the question is yes. Especially in the context of the summation of a man’s wisdom being treated as a singular meme or idea. Even still the uniqueness of the idea is unimportant. What mattered is that it’s yours and they’re still building upon it and thinking about it. Again the man still has a bad deal. His children should still be genetically his. It’s uh. Hard to give a more thorough refutation than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:11 PM
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The irony is manic pixie dream girls are defined by how different they are from their surroundings in the eyes of the men who want to love them. They’re defined by their independence and uniqueness. Women as a demographic generally take issue with any idea that they should bring anything to the table in love even if that thing is little more than pleasantness, and (the true irony) the willingness to love a man as he loves them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:00 PM
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So let me real objective with you here in a way few men and virtually no women will. Ideas are immortal. Far more than genes. In a thousand generations your offspring won’t resemble you in the slightest but they might say “our founder had a saying...” I’m far more concerned with passing on my wisdom and creating descendants of my spirit more than I am of the flesh. The reason I said what I did is that the dude only having 1 genetic offspring really makes you question the woman he chose to spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:47 PM
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If I could somehow get a cross between a tomboy and artsy goth I’d consider myself infinitely lucky. I value someone who can be a best friend I can fuck. Tomboys are honest, forward and male like in their disposition and artsy goths tend to have fairly cute mannerisms and a certain creative energy. If I could have this looks largely stopped mattering. My frontal lobe will tell my dick to turn hard enough to drill diamonds and it will obey.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:38 PM
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If it weren’t for the puerile dimwits who haunt this board I might question you for explaining the difference between something being prescriptive and descriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:33 PM
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/thread. No man likes this shit but some are just more able and willing to take advantage regardless how fleeting any satisfaction they get from it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:31 PM
1

In the context of how men actually choose who to spend their life with the concept of leagues is largely one borne of female entitlement. That said women tend to be overly generous in their personal assessments of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:27 PM
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Your language makes it clear what you think the better choice is and I agree with you. Given the context however and that I know you to be a woman it reeks of excusing female immorality and an entitlement to a man’s efforts when you’ve done little to nothing for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:20 PM
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Human nature and in particular female nature would be vastly different though there are also polygynous male tendencies that would be thrown out. Presumably the courtship phase will be much more of a back and forth rather than a 1 sided effort on the part of the man and it should also last longer. This will have the effect of largely curbing bad relationships in theory. I’ve made no secret my problem with relationships runs far deeper than any surface level ideological meddling and that’s that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:12 PM
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You are correct in your assessment of her. I will further point out the general pattern of women like this putting all the blame at the feet of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:03 PM
2

Because dice falling in your favor in no way effects your ability to look at the situation for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:00 PM
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Is the question a hypothetical meant to gauge reactions? Because I feel from your choice of language you know the answer is that it’s a bold faced lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:58 PM
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To answer OP yes this makes perfect sense. You’ll never see it happen because women are terrified of rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:55 PM
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This is wildly incongruent with the general nature of the reality surrounding the op I’ll treat this incongruity as self evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:54 PM
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I just don’t think most men have issues with monogamy. If most women genuinely loved their husbands the way most men genuinely love their wives these would be non issues but they don’t. The marriage wouldn’t be sexless if this condition was fulfilled. It’d be sex filled. As it is I don’t see any reason once so ever for men to get married if that was your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:51 PM
1

The average distance from the vaginal opening to the cervix is only around 8 inches. Anything more is entirely superfluous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:41 PM
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That doesn’t change the fact they don’t love their husbands. I don’t much care for forcing women into doing things they don’t want to do. That said an option given was to change either male or female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:39 PM
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Questions like this being asked by grown adults irritate me. Psychopathy is a spectrum based on a number of factors. It’s not all or nothing. A factor of psychopathy you see in hero archetypes is they have no reaction to fear. It’s like they don’t feel it. Neil Armstrong notoriously never had his heart rate rise when making an unplanned landing with 10 seconds of fuel left.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:33 PM
1

Kindness to men yes. To women no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:30 PM
1

Yes. Both are prostitution and vile
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:29 PM
1

There’s little useful here. Red pill really only means PUA here for example
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:28 PM
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Only if I’m romantically interested in the women does it matter. As spank bank material it’s very subpar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:27 PM
1

Only with black men and women do I get this overarching sense of entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:26 PM
1

Women ? Hell no. My children? There’s no greater duty
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:24 PM
1

I’d argue it’s the only goal and I’d like to be loved for qualities intrinsic to me as well. Anything less is pointless satiation of baser instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:19 PM
1

These women didn’t love these dudes they loved the money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:17 PM
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Make women love the men they’re with. /thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:13 PM
0

What does it say about how small you are that all you care about is something outside of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 09:01 PM
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Sex for favors rather than sex for the sake of indulging in a mutually fun bonding activity with the man you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:37 PM
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I’m trying to dig through this autistic attempt at high mindedness to find something worthwhile and I just can’t. Probably the only real response is to point that the conditions in the primeval world could not be more different from modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:35 PM
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Sure. Or boxing. Or squatting 515lbs. Or warhammer and sculpting in general. Or art and in my case penciling. Or writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:25 PM
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I don’t think it’s fair to characterize a given creator as “actually going their own way” for two reasons. 1. The operative part of going your own way is your. Some guys might be more critical of women and that’s fine. 2. This is really a corollary to 1 but some guys really liked the lie that women were these angels who would complete us and love us for who we are. Even after the rage stage ends these are the kinda guys who are going to remain highly critical of women because they based a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:24 PM
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It’s amazing but because I don’t chase pussy I have these things called hobbies that I spend time on, and because I have so much free time my interest in them is deep
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:12 PM
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Something I do for like 20 minutes every other day for free, that I move on from to be productive Do you really not see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:10 PM
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So there’s still no situation where this still isn’t more time consuming. But that’s distal to the fact this retarded plate spinning Is only something you’d bother with if you’re too much of a smooth brained weakling to look for validation and purpose outside of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:05 PM
1

How does 2 hours a week equate to 2 hours in a given day?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 05:56 PM
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A few hours every time? Sounds like a waste. Different people hold different values man. I think you’re uncomfortable with the fact I only care about bettering myself. Oh and uh do you mean to onanist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 05:06 PM
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Says me. It’s not rocket science dude. You’re just putting pussy on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 11:20 AM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:42 AM
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Is it so hard to understand that sex with someone who I don’t have reciprocal investment with may as well be masturbation. I don’t define myself by things outside of me. It’s wonderful you oughta try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:40 AM
1

Huh? So what’s so hard to understand about what you do with that information also being important? Because the matrix thoroughly explores that idea as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 06:22 PM
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Average squat in the nfl is around 500 pounds. Calculating a max from 415 for 7 gives you around 515. Regardless I just want to be the “best” person I possibly can be. If you can’t understand that it says more about you than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 06:05 PM
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Don’t care. Just want my stats as high as possible. Dude do you ever think it’s pathetic how you define yourself by what women want rather than what’s best or what you what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:25 PM
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..... https://i.imgur.com/yCBZhQ5.mp4 Let’s not get personal. You don’t want to compare yourself to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:17 PM
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Incels base their entire existence on not getting laid. Incel: “it’s over.” Me: “Dude you’re 16 there’s more to life than 20 minutes of messy fun a-“ Incel: “yeah well It’s over.” Just a sample interaction. If they didn’t care they wouldn’t be incels because it wouldn’t be involuntary. I just..why don’t people on this sub know what these simple words mean? PUA wouldn’t even be red pill you’d be Cypher choosing to re-enter the matrix with your knowledge. This shit isn’t hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:13 PM
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So in order to be ambivalent you have to be asexual rather than not even caring enough to pursue urges? The word ambivalent simply means having mixed feelings and as such to not bother enough to try goes beyond the scope of the word. Incels still care about getting laid. If they didn’t they wouldn’t be incels. Congrats so much wrong in so little time. Impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:08 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw&t=850s The concept features heavily in his videos but this one probably has the most thorough explanation of it. Can’t recommend Colttaine enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:57 PM
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It uh largely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:22 PM
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What if I tell you I would because I have no interest in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:20 PM
1

Black pill is this sort of all encompassing nihilism that literally nothing matters. Learn what words mean
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:44 PM
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Ok so even in your own narrative the man is the protector and you’re the protected. What does that say about who’s expected to die, and how you would react in a situation where you were expected to act? Just do a quick google search of “men died protecting women” and then “women died protecting men” In both instances this is the first hit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/human-interest/2012/07/aurora-dark-knight-shooting-the-men-protected-the-women.amp My point is I’m not willing to die f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:52 PM
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Why do we treat PUA bullshit as the sum total of the red pill. Here’s the true metaphor of Anderson becoming Neo: If there’s nothing to gain from playing why play?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:34 PM
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Why are we lumping in MGTOW with the black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:31 PM
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Ok that’s in no way what I said. My point is that you wouldn’t. Most women never would. Some may die for their children however. Sorry I didn’t get a notification for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:30 PM
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Let me put it to you this way. If she would die for me I have no issue doing the same. And I’ll be the first to make that sacrifice. That’s not the general reality of this situation. There is no reciprocity here. You’re approaching this from a trad perspective but my point is largely that if there’s no reciprocity in the deepest bond two people can have why even bother. And this lack of reciprocity is endemic across the entire landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:00 PM
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Point proven. Why die for a parasite?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:53 PM
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..... The point is you as a woman generally won’t die for your man so to expect him to die for you is rather parasitic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:50 PM
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That’s not the point. The point is whether you want to admit it or not this generally isn’t a reciprocal kind of situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:35 PM
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I agree. Colttaine did a video on the success of the movie Titanic where he linked this with the movie’s success with a female audience. It should indeed come across as cowardly and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:33 PM
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Violent porn is overwhelmingly consumed by women. If the demographics of a board like r/wholesomehentai are anything to go by men are more interested in day-dreamy kind of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:25 PM
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That feel when
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:09 PM
1

Tfw no tomboy childhood friend gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:32 PM
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hybristophillia is a uniquely female thing, and there are way more women than men who enjoy hair pulling and more rough play. This is me speaking but that’s gross to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:28 PM
1

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:23 PM
1

The metrics on r/wholesomehentai show that it’s overwhelmingly male. Just something worth consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:20 PM
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Rush of endorphins lead to an increase in higher order thought. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:17 PM
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The topic is sexuality in general. Both matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 07:43 PM
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Ok do you have any evidence like such that exists for rape fantasies in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 07:43 PM
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He means it’s not significant enough to have any effect on the stats. It doesn’t happen often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 07:20 PM
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I need to make this shit a hot key. Your personal experience has fuck all to do with general observable patterns
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 06:47 PM
1

To answer the question yes, men are generally far more comfortable being alone with their thoughts and heartbeat but some women are introverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:12 AM
1

The deepest pits of the red pill lie in not playing the game at all because ultimately it doesn’t benefit you to play. We have this overarching assumption that PUA is the totality of the red pill on this sub Reddit when that’s just the surface and most men move on from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:11 AM
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Ah. No but your general lack of reason does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:44 PM
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Most women view all relationships mainly through the lens of cost-benefit. Even friendships. For me and most men my time spent shooting the shit with my buds benefits me through me enjoying my time with them more than my time alone and that’s all wr really need.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:34 PM
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What did you question mark key do to deserve that miss geez. And yes. Yes I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:27 PM
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Kids are healthiest with a mom to nurture and a dad to teach. So it matters. As to why the answer is welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:23 PM
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You made what you know for a fact is an absurd assertion and clearly have no intent on providing evidence as there is none. Men don’t need you pregnant to casually overpower and control you. The whole thing is just so gross and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:21 PM
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Geez the freaks are out in mass. So pragmatically you have a point but the red pill metaphor goes deeper than just men and women. It’s about seeing things as they really are. Most of us who’d call ourselves red pill are vehemently anti-baby-killing or conflicted only because the people who can justify having them aren’t the ones you want raising kids in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:19 PM
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What? Just....what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:16 PM
-1

It’s a matter of understanding the situation for what it really is and thus not wanting to kill babies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:15 PM
50

This is the answer. You may not like it but here it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:37 PM
1

Nowhere does he say that. Only furnishing that is. He just gave an example of how women have trouble relating to men. I haven’t looked through the whole thread yet but I think in the comment you’re referring to he says that you only come into contact with men already bent on catering to you. The obvious implication being you’ll never meet those with “taste” who don’t cater to you no matter how numerous they may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:08 PM
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Solipsism by definition means that you live with the underlying theory being that nothing can be stated to exist but the self. You only see through your eyes etc. Needless to say such thinking is smoothbrained and small minded as fuck. It’s like your perspective is missing a whole fucking dimension of space to it, and if your underlying thought is that nothing can really be said to exist but you why would you ever think about how you relate to society at large and what your place in it is? After…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:05 PM
0

Do you mean giving those additional bedrooms to the wife? I agree. Got my warhammer shit in one. A bench and power rack in another, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:00 PM
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I’m tempted to give this a thumbs up but you can’t invalidate someone else’s experience with only your own you need stats, figures, facts etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:52 PM
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I want you to look up the concept of exceptionalism and realize it’s that for all intents and purposes it’s a fallacy. The fact you do x or you husband does x means nothing when we’re having a discussion on the macro scale
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:51 PM
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Additional bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:48 PM
2

Was about to point this out. Time is money too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:47 PM
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Because the children are an asset to be divvied up in a divorce and child support often gets paid to who gets custody which more often than not is the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:44 PM
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See point 2. We come back to why even bother at all with prenups if there’s so many limitations on what they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:40 PM
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The problem is how broad “coercion to sign” or “misinformation” can be extrapolated into being. To the point where, yeah, they really aren’t worth much as a defense. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/9t3l1k/judge_threw_out_prenup_and_is_requiring_me_to_pay/ What it comes down to is any attempt made to make it so that both parties come out of the relationship the way they came in is doomed to fail, and generally waiving child support even if you fight for custody …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:30 PM
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Oh oh boy. You have your Eliot Rodgers but the overwhelming majority of men have an out group preference towards women. So no
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 10:05 PM
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This is entirely factual and negates the purpose of me replying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 10:04 PM
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The distinction is important because if you’re simply believing what you desperately want to be true it’s possible that no amount of evidence will shake you from that belief because it isn’t based on a lack of evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 08:08 PM
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My issue is a general lack of effort from women in partnerships that we would both point out if it were coming from a man, but from a woman, you’ve left me by my lonesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:58 PM
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“oh a girl will love me, be there for me...” Nothing about this should be unrealistic and the fact that you know this to be an impossibility but still treat it as unrealistic shows a deference to women even in spite of this rather grotesque behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:55 PM
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It’s a perfect fix to the mating market but near impossible to actually be implemented. Women have a general avoidance of being clear with their intentions as part of what many would call a series of efforts to avoid responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:52 PM
3

The delusion you dudes are talking about is more often than not a conscious one. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:49 PM
1

This is correct but doesn’t make it any less disgusting of a female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:48 PM
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The vast sweeping majority of men don’t think of relationships in terms of cost-benefit and so they never notice how bad they really have it. This compounds with a general attachment to the girl, because he’s been with her a good length of time, and the natural stoicism many men have to make it so that she can basically treat him however she wants and the only one to pull the plug is going to be her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:48 PM
2

You think middle school aged children know the demographic breakdown of careers?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:29 PM
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Wh-wha? Those boys don’t see that and do you mean to imply women can’t do STEM even when they’re being pushed into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:42 PM
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I went to pick up a nephew from school recently and it was plastered in all this “girls in STEM, you can do it girl, girls get it done” crap. Ask yourself this question: What do those young men think when they notice no one is telling them that they’re wonderful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:10 PM
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No they exist. It’s just that men with the things you’re describing are a minority today. We come back to most women just not generally understanding the concept of maths involving general patterns. You think because you see some men happy with the way things are somehow most or all men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:06 PM
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Your assumption is that generally women make sense but they don’t. Women generally display true affection through cuddling rather than through sex. It’s fucking weird I know because to us dudes sex is so deeply connected to love but to women libido and love are more separated. That said that still doesn’t explain why she didn’t fuck you faster than the pump and dumper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:39 PM
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So my stance on what you’re saying is I’m absolutely in love with the idea you’re throwing around but I’ve come to the general realization that it’s impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:29 PM
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How does that make a lick of sense from an evolutionary perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:48 PM
1

Equal treatment in terms of the exact same expectations still isn’t practical. Probably the most apt description I’ve ever heard of feminism was that it’s female nature moulded into a political force. It’s not the problem itself, rather the general deference we have to it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:50 PM
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Smarter too. There’s a 5 point mean IQ difference in adults. What you mean to say is it was more practical. I have to ask why you’re asking this question because what feminism started as is ultimately meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:28 PM
2

If you look at the red pill in the context of the initial matrix analogy the further you go the more chains get cast off. Illusions destroyed. I suppose in this way the terminal point of the red pill path is MGTOW and the central tenet of MGTOW is self improvement and actualization for its own sake. I’ll also note that viewing huge sweeping societal issues through the lens of partisan politics is beyond retarded and that’s exactly what you’re doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:25 PM
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Why was society dominated by men? Tender Years Doctrine basically proves female political power comes long before feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:19 PM
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You’re confusing the proxy power of having your needs met by society at large women have with the more traditional power that those who meet those needs have
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:15 PM
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I just....wha? Confused_tom.jpeg Something I’m coming to understand is that the aspect of the red pill that gets discussed here is PUA bullshit and there’s some debate and opposing viewpoints to be had, but when it comes to MGTOW you guys just have no counter arguments, you have nothing to offer. Have you ever stopped and considered how small you are when your own understanding of your worth is contingent on men wanting to fuck you? You’re beyond worthless if they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 08:11 PM
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The “trophies” to win are trash, and It sounds unbelievably ludicrous to me that 50% of the population think they’re a prize for what amounts to a masturbatory aid between their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:06 PM
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I didn’t need worship when I was still looking hon I needed love, that said I agree with the sentiment just not the grotesque way you put it. The point still stands that general trends have power.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:19 PM
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You ... If all of you give of that insecure vibe. Now I’ll admit it’s possible you were using the general you but in most uses of modern English you would be lumping me in with shorties Her ...Are all short by your standards.... the problem is you Now admittedly this one is less clear cut but the assumption is that I have a problem and the most likely reason seems to be that I’m short. Both of these are lazy attempts to invalidate my admittedly mean spirited initial point by pointing out some pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:46 PM
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Both of you came to the same conclusion I was mad and short and I tried to prove otherwise. What I’m mad about is pretending a general pattern doesn’t exist simply because there do exist examples of the trend being bucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:37 PM
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Your giving reasons for your dishonesty while never actually showing concern for the truth, just how the lie you tell benefits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:29 PM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/U6AIEFX. This is a few weeks ago. I don’t have video evidence of it but the highest max for this lift you could calculate is 525ish from a set of 415 I did for 8. I don’t have video evidence of that though. Also accuses someone of an ad personam proceeds to use an ad personam by assuming I’m mad and short. Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:23 PM
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I hope I’m not mischaracterizing your argument but this seems to imply that general social patterns don’t have any weight or rather perhaps that they’re never something truly insurmountable? The reality of life is everything is a dice roll and every negative modifier to that roll will cause someone to fail and they’ll have nothing to point at beyond the hurdle that they couldn’t cross that someone else exactly like them could. Life is random like that. I don’t have interest in “the game” and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:08 PM
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To the extent that both genders use the other in a traditional monogamous relationship the man tended to provide protection and provision that required back breaking physical labor and the woman provided the man children and in theory love and support with few conditions. The greater contribution should be obvious in this relationship and it forms the historical backbone of male female interaction. Now It’s worth pointing out the concept of male mother need. It’s the yearning basically all peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:02 PM
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I’m 6’4 and have a 1300lb powerlifting total sans gear. I just hate seeing the same intellectually lazy bullshit I don’t pretend to know anything about her motivations beyond she’s attempting to say that a general trend doesn’t exist because she says she doesn’t adhere to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:39 PM
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This personal anecdote that you could be pulling from your rectum totally disproves general societal patterns. Totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:29 PM
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There’s this overwhelming tendency on this board to view the red pill as a monolith and only look at the PUA side of things. The MGTOW side of things is simply not engaging in morally reprehensible behavior whether it nets you women or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 09:55 AM
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You equated porn with promiscuity. Why should anyone try to figure out what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 09:52 AM
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With a 12 word reply? I’m just pointing out how samey you are. Probably the most recent meme here is The Whole mommy bang maid or whatever but the delicious irony is a mother is loved for positive qualities intrinsic to her like kindness, pleasantness, etc. Even your own metaphors fall flat under mental scrutiny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:23 AM
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I’m oppressed. I’m not like those other girls. Always the same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:14 AM
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Oh gee where do we start. So generally speaking as men pay to court women, there’s always some level of “paying for it.” So sugar babies and prostitutes are a fundamentally different phenomenon from women sleeping around as it’s just the same general male female interaction rendered down to be more transparent. If you’re the kind of man (or woman for that matter) who seeks external validation for its’ own sake you’re a fundamentally hollow and incomplete human being incapable of making your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:11 AM
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I’m absolutely fine with it either way although generally as women don’t pay for courtship morally there’s definitely more black there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:14 PM
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Somewhere around twice as many women have historically passed on their genes as men. Just throwing that out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:12 PM
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I’ve explained the science. Your personal experience does nothing to invalidate the general nature of male female relationships or the fact this “pseudo science” is an entire branch of medicine called endocrinology
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:23 PM
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No this was just the best explanation I’m aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:08 PM
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http://www.darionardi.com/BulletinArt9.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:52 PM
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Men find their partners more attractive. This is psychological fact not an opinion. That said vasopressin (the male love hormone) creates a much stronger bond and dopamine pathways than oxytocin (the female love hormone) but takes a while to forge. It irritates me that you’re talking about this kind of thing in terms of opinions when there’s real research that invalidates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:42 PM
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Literally yes. Men find woman they have personal attachment to more attractive. This projection is getting so fucking old. This isn’t an opinion this is psychological fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:32 PM
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Because...geez it’s a good 30 times less common than women killing their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:27 PM
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Good for you. The vast majority of women aren’t and I have no way of verifying anything you’re saying and will not ask for verification as you are unlikely to provide it. I have no personal knowledge of you as you have none of me. The lower case f feminist line is a reference to the behavior of most women. Now I will say that if you’re genuinely telling me the truth I have more respect for you than just about any other kind of person I can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:26 PM
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Men aren’t being oppressed by women killing their babies, just like women aren’t being oppressed by the few men who kill them. I’m just pointing out the sheer statistical difference in the rates of occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:21 PM
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You may not consider yourself a feminist but you have allowed them to speak for you, and if I talked to you about getting rid of alimony, getting rid of the family court system, and destroying the deluth model you’d object in abject horror. You’re not much different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:20 PM
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I see literally no reason not to and would find the genuine appeals to win my affection beyond charming. And that’s because of how utterly fresh it would feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:56 PM
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Where has that been shown? I love being proven wrong because that means I come out knowing more. Because I can’t see anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:11 PM
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The only reason to choose not to engage with ideas that challenge yours is that your existing understanding of the world doesn’t have the structures in place to prevent change in mindset from happening. If you don’t even show up to play the other team it’s a loss all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:03 PM
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Then give them to me. This is an even easier game you’re playing now of not even of trying to prove yourself right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:59 AM
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Have you tried stats? At all? You’re still making the same unquantified statement game and that game is easy. It takes no effort. I can play it with you all day. But seriously just google “male instinct to protect families” or “male instinct to protect females” and get bombarded because one of the few times you’re allowed to say anything good about us is when we’re servicing others. I will admit I was being dramatic and that women do have some instinct to protect their sons but it’s more often t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:56 AM
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It’s a topic all it’s own but there are 6 theorized stages of morality. The first three are just childish avoidance of punishment. The final stage is an application of universal principals and the golden rule on a broader scale. IE “the world would be better if everybody did x, so I’ll do x.” Now few men were found to operate consistently at level 6 but even fewer women were found to operate outside the first three levels of consequence avoidance, and literally none operated at level 6. Point be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:32 AM
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You gave an unquantified opinion and I gave an unquantified one back. You have things like Briffault’s Law, and all sorts of evo psych showing women only value the tribe as long as it adds value to them. On top of various female mammals not doing anything to stop a new alpha from killing their children. My advice is that if you legitimately want to prove me wrong you need quantitative evidence that might show women have the same instinct to sacrifice for their family men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:24 AM
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This is a goofy statement in the first place when the sheer difference in number of occurrences is laid out in the post you’re responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:05 AM
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Lower case f feminist dearie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:03 AM
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I don’t count on women caring about their own husbands or sons enough to take much real action in the first place. Whether due to lack of ability or genuine lack of care it really makes no practical difference. So I suppose the point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:02 AM
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You wrote 200+ words and didn’t refute literally anything he said. That’s truly impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:51 PM
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Literally two comments above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:34 PM
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Look at the thread. “...of 11,370 heterosexual U.S. adults aged 18 to 28 found that 24% of all relationships had some violence. Of those relationships, 49.7% of them had reciprocal violence. In relationships without reciprocal violence, women committed 70% of all violence. However, men were more likely to inflict injury than women.” I also linked an article that would seem to show women cheat more as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:33 PM
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My ideal relationship is coming home to a wife who’s always happy to see me, kissing my son’s forehead and reading him a story before tucking him into bed at night, and then have cowgirl sex with my wife (I’m too big so I feel missionary is inappropriate) while holding hands and never breaking eye contact. But uh yes, anyone here feel free to explain to me how I’m evil. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:23 PM
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Or, or and hear me out here, you could disavow the kind of behavior that nets you women because of what it says about the women themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:19 PM
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To actually comment on the thread proper I find it morally repugnant to deceive and lie to women even if they largely do the same thing. I get diamonds for wholesome Hentai and much of my continued interest in women is “wouldn’t it be nice if x.” Well x isn’t true and I hate the sort of behavior that actually nets you women so I choose not to engage in it. At the same time the shaming of a group of people with maybe a 1/5 my general level of strength and a good 40 fewer IQ points means little to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:50 PM
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On a macro scale there’s literally no difference. What a pointless statement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:19 PM
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Have an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:54 PM
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Most domestic abuse is non reciprocal and most aggressors of non reciprocal domestic abuse are female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:45 PM
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My experience is very much in line with TRP tenets including unfortunately the more esoteric aspects. It’s clear to me the man who was the closest thing I’ve had to a dad loved me far more than my mom even if we’re a different skin color.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:27 PM
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Just throwing out that you as a woman are ~12 times more likely to kill your infant child than be killed (not counting abortion) and far more likely to engage as the aggressor in non reciprocal domestic abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:20 PM
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Service registry. Please stop. Men literally like women more than other men. To the extent men want to use women it’s largely the same way they use a dog. IE unconditional love. The dog gets way more out of the interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:18 PM
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Male sex drive is objectively higher. You’re factually incorrect miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:13 PM
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What it comes down to is I don’t think what you’re calling unpaid labor is real work and I even I did I don’t think it makes up for the discrepancy in hours worked or other stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:56 PM
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Women doing less work in general. For example only men are net tax payers as a group
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:21 PM
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“Recent data from the US Census stated that "40% of all households with children under the age of 18 include mothers who are either the sole or primary source of income for the family". 37% of these "Breadwinner Moms" are married mothers who have a higher income than their husbands, and 63% are single mothers.” It’s ~63%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:11 PM
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~90% of that 40% is single mother households. I don’t have the enthusiasm I used to, to point out how much worse the outlook for kids with single moms is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 07:23 PM
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They don’t pay the bills goofball
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:35 PM
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I guess you could call me a misogynist because I think women are generally inferior in most every quantifiable way. At the same time this is a very different reason than resentment. The pattern you want to see should be easy enough to prove but we look at actual research and men tend to have an out group preference of women over other men. All in all just a typical female type 1 error.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:02 PM
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My point is the number is so large it means men have an objectively easier time being sated in this way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:11 PM
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The number crunching reality is it’s not. Women aren’t as productive in a given amount of time in really any industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:02 PM
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I’m going to get flak for this but in my experience women don’t have the kind of real intellectual interest in hobbies (any hobby) that would make a friendship mutually beneficial
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:59 PM
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Yes and again it’s a well known psych fast fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:57 PM
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I love the idea of women. Hate the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:55 PM
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Agreed 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:51 PM
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Ding ding ding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:50 PM
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That’s highly debatable and I’d argue the opposite chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:46 PM
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Not in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:45 PM
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Hell fucking no, I would love for a woman to approach me, because just like that the need to play dumb ass games gets thrown out because now I know she’s interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:38 PM
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You might have a point if men didn’t find somewhere in the ballpark of 80% of women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:37 PM
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No. Stardusk had a drawn out video pointing out the ridiculousness of it. In 6 generations your descendants won’t remember your name. In 20 they won’t be like you genetically at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:34 PM
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Absolutely nothing. Rape is rape and it’s bad. When it actually happens anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:27 PM
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Surprised at how red pilled this purple pill sub is but yes generally men will understate and women will overstate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:26 PM
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Factually incorrect. There’s evidence to support that men continue maturing until they’re 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:23 PM
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Definitely a mix of both although female standards are the bigger factor. Keep in mind how goofy the idea of “marketing yourself” in this context is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:21 PM
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Yes this has been known in the psychological community for a number of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:19 PM
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It’s appealing to the gynocentric nature of society writ large while at the same time ironically highlighting the only way women can reward you.
/r/MGTOW214/09/20 09:23 PM
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Women don’t love men and a pretty hefty majority of those friends with “lovers” are in for a rude awakening in a year or so. Maybe less. I don’t like the idea of curbing envy by showing the grass on the other side for the fetid shit it is because it doesn’t fix the root problem that is you caring what other people have or think they have in the first place.
/r/MGTOW214/09/20 09:21 PM
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Compare this subreddit to female dating strategy and realize how goofy the complaint of this sub being hate filled is.
/r/MGTOW214/09/20 09:17 PM
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A realization that women can’t love men the same selfless way we love them. Cemented by reflection on interaction with my mother who was and is a callous women uninterested in higher thought and the closest thing I have to a father who I know loves me more than my mother despite us not even being the same skin color. Effectively I just don’t want what women are selling. I don’t ask for literally anything material but that’s still too much. The philosophical aspect of forging your own path has al…
/r/MGTOW214/09/20 09:11 PM
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I can’t recall ever really having an honestly intelligent conversation with a woman. Mind you I only really have intelligent conversation with 2 of my buds. You always get the same shit from women when you wanna talk about male female dynamics. “Who hurt you?” is a meme but it’s one for a reason.
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 06:27 PM
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