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Don't go to clubs without the company of a girl or girls that you haven't already gamed a bit. Whether you meet them at a bar beforehand or a pre-drink, clubbing is 10x more enjoyable if you go with female company that you're already familiar with.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/16 10:08 PM
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There are tons in innumerable fields. It is all about embodying the principles of perseverance, self-assurance, and integrity in your chosen craft. Conor wouldn't be the guy in MMA, imho. He would ridicule his exact mirror if he were on the other side of the fence. He went to painful lengths to fight guys smaller than himself but now he plays the hero card ("longer, taller, heavier opponent") when he's fighting a guy who would fight in his natural weightclass. Nate Diaz is a LW and Conor is a na…
/r/TheRedPill21/04/16 11:20 PM
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Exactly. He's not "going into monk-mode." He's avoiding media because it'll be an unpleasant chore that will make him look bad but is instead pretending it's because refuses to divert energy from training. See the difference? Guarantee he'd have done media if he was fighting an infinitely more formidable opponent than Nate if he was riding a winning streak.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/16 09:02 PM
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"Obsessed with the loss" means so little. McGregor was "obsessed with movement" and it didn't show at all. All top fighters are obsessed with losses. Most of them don't get an undeserved immediate rematch, though. McGregor didn't want to do the chore of press conferences when he had nothing to gain. It's really that simple. I wouldn't want to do it either. His portrayal of it is the most obvious spin anybody could possibly put on it. His promotional game always makes sense. LOL @ "he's obsessed …
/r/TheRedPill21/04/16 08:57 PM
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No, he's not. He's hiding from his routine media obligations because he'll look like an absolute chump at the press conferences after losing to the guy opposite him on 10 days notice. He wouldn't be able to bluster his way through a media tour without taking a major hit to his brand so he figured he'd just dodge it and spin the whole thing. UFC wasn't having it and he pulls a fake-retirement diva move. Now he lost a payday because he was too chicken to do both media and then fight Nate in his ow…
/r/TheRedPill21/04/16 08:37 PM
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Same. He's fucking pathetic. No sympathy from me.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/16 07:13 PM
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Regarding your thought experiment, it depends largely on the scale. Girls can easily gain some points by getting in shape and improving how they present themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 09:08 PM
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Gonna disagree with you, man. I knew 18 year old black kids in high school who barely lifted that looked similar to Aldo with their shirt off. It depends on a person's genetics. Some people have the potential to look way better than others with their shirt off. I've only been seriously training for the last 5 months and with a tempered self-assessment of my frame and the progress I've made in the last several months I think a physique similar to the Aldo one is attainable within 2 years minus th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 06:56 PM
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Not at all oblivious. I know Aldo is juiced. I still think a physique similar minus the 3D delts is extremely attainable for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 06:45 PM
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I'm shooting for something like this. Another perhaps more flattering shot of the same guy. His legs seem a little lacking but he's a ferocious kicker. Some people, like myself, never skip leg day and still have legs that don't appear powerful. I need to put on about 15 pounds of muscle and get my bodyfat percentage down to 8% to get to where I'm aiming at. With diminishing returns factored in, I expect I will be close to my current goal in 18 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:52 AM
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The vast majority of women are shitty as hell. Just like men. Except I'm programmed by my biology and modern society to think otherwise. Even women that I should genuinely find completely undesirable from a character perspective. I don't at all agree with the general RP stance that men are innately better than women outside of sexual relations. Men are generally more noble than woman in courtship but outside of that they're no better. Same potential for platonic love. Another thing that I disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:47 AM
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Bet you can't even explain that premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:53 PM
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Yeah. In your black and white imaginary little world. Must be nice having such a simple view of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:32 PM
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I don't know where you got "me good" from. I pump and dump chicks all the time. Breaks their little hearts every time. I hope your white knighting pays off someday. Good luck, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:23 PM
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Nothing you've said has struck me as moral, tbh. Sanctimony isn't moral behaviour. Perhaps that's the first step in recovering from your affliction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:09 PM
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Checkmate, m'lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:03 PM
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The overlap between platonic love and sexual lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 12:55 PM
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TIL I don't value the consent of the people I sleep with. Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 12:53 PM
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Fair enough, socioeconomic status is a much greater predictor of future success than either race or gender. Why didn't you just start with that one then, instead of harping on and on about race? Inference isn't your strong suit, huh? Do you think that holding rapists responsible for their choice to rape, and encouraging women to be careful because some men are rapists are mutually exclusive? Holding them responsible how? I am in fully in favour of the harshest possible punishment. But do you eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 12:39 PM
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This is a waste of time. I keep making that comparison for illustrative purposes. If you look at aggregate traits, black people have much greater disadvantages. I'm glad that you seem to finally realize that it basically boils down to class. Black people are not disadvantaged because they are black. Its because they are as an aggregate much poorer. The single biggest consideration for privilege is wealth. This is seemingly completely beyond the understanding of feminists who see the world throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 12:18 PM
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None of you are willing to do that. How can you even argue your beliefs aren't toxic when you're not even willing to attach your name to them? How is that even an argument. There are plenty of historical instances where publicly expressing perfectly acceptable viewpoints was social suicide. Thankfully we live in an age where we can do so anonymously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:09 AM
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It boils down to whether or not you can give girls the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:03 AM
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Oh, is that why you were all up in arms about which group I think has it worse? You're offended that I didn't immediately rank you as a more oppressed victim than white upper-class women? Apologies for your hurt feelings, I'll try to take your victimhood more into consideration in the future. C'mon, man. One clear look at my flair should make it incredibly obvious to you that I abhor victimhood. I merely made a valid point about the easily identifiable disadvantages that are of an incomparable m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 07:53 PM
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Just like how black people must not have a natural drive to achieve, since they're underrepresented in leadership positions. No. Black people actually have very clear, easily identifiable disadvantages. For instance, poverty, a crazy percentage of single-parent households, and a terrible peer culture perpetuated by an exploitative music industry that shamelessly profits from the glorification of degenerate behaviour. I'm black. I've lived in subsidized housing right up until I was 18. My persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 07:21 PM
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Different outcomes result from different starting conditions and opportunities, which result from an unfair society. You're skipping a crucial step there. Different starting conditions, i.e. being an anatomical female, sure. Men and women are different. Different outcomes are to be expected from their natural differences. Women don't gravitate towards positions of leadership the way men do. Women don't have the same competitive drive that men do. Above all, women don't have the drive towards gai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 06:59 PM
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There is a mechanical consideration. A woman smacking another woman wouldn't likely result in physical damage. In any case, I can't help but think that the reaction to a very large, physically imposing woman smacking a much smaller woman would be very, very different than if that same large woman smacked a smaller man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 06:46 PM
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Biggest advantage is that people genuinely care if/when women suffer. Edit: To give a small illustrative example. Let's say you see a guy getting thrashed on a night out by a noticeably bigger and stronger man than him. Imagine the crowd's reaction. Best case scenario, some people will try to break it up and tell the bigger guy to cool down and check on the smaller dude. Now imagine a woman gets smacked once in plain sight of a large crowd by a man. Imagine that crowd's reaction. Without a doubt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 06:14 PM
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Modern feminism aims at "social justice." So although you may not be an SJW my point still stands. Feminists blame the patriarchy for outcomes and think that women are appreciably disadvantaged. That different outcomes must result from an unfair society. Mainstream feminists make it difficult to regard women as the equals of men by normalizing infantilized female behaviour. The mainstream unspoken feminist position is that women are not as responsible for their own actions as men. And when men r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:13 PM
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I don't know how I can engage you when you're completely misrepresenting the general position of your fellow proud SJW compatriots and then taking up their cause. The whole aim of "social justice" is re-engineering outcomes because all of the various exaggerated overlapping oppressive systems (i.e. race, gender expression, and sexual orientation) make it so that everything ISN'T everyone's own responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:00 PM
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It's no surprise that a fairly clear line of reasoning can easily become a little incoherent to you. The simple fact that misogyny is so loosely thrown around is evidence of the thoroughly accepted coddling of infantile women. I can go on and on but I won't bother because you're clearly very dogmatic. Women good. Men bad. Everything is society's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 04:38 PM
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Far more men are violently robbed and murdered on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:54 PM
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My point would be obvious to you if you possessed even the slightest ability to infer. If "fragile woman-children" exist then what groups exist that are incredibly attractive to them? Infantile women go where for a sense of security and belonging when they are not coddled? What is more socially acceptable... i.e. on university campuses and the media. At whose expense are infantile women coddled?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:45 PM
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How predictable. You're instinctively opposed to the phrasing because of your dogmatic view that women are oppressed. I mean clearly your frame of reference is very weak if you cannot even say whether cis white women are closer in privilege to cis white men than gay people and racial minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:40 PM
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Black and white thinking writ large. Is the term "fragile woman-children" in your lexicon? I guess not since "Women... get shit on all the time, and they've all learned to suck it up and move on with their lives."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:33 PM
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So you don't disagree with me when I say that I believe cis white women are far closer in privilege to cis white men than they are to racial minorities and gay people? You simply don't know and therefore cannot say whether you agree or disagree. I'm glad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:30 PM
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Cis white woman are closer in privilege to cis white men than the other groups you listed. Agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:24 PM
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"the expectation that other people nurture and protect fragile egos" A totally unironic definition of "intersectionality," third-wave feminism, political correctness etc right???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:19 PM
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Most people don't get, and don't expect, other people to nurture and protect their fragile egos. Women, non-white guys, non-straight guys, etc...they get shit on all the time, and they've all learned to suck it up and move on with their lives. Ummm... how are you so utterly incapable of seeing that the exact opposite of this is happening these days with the Oppression Olympics?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:07 PM
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In my observation, women who think they're masculine usually live in an imaginary world. Sort of like my little 3 year old nephew who actually thinks he can throw me around because I play along. To give an example. I used to play a ton of pick-up basketball. There was a young tomboyish chick who used to come to the court sometimes. It was an unspoken agreement that guarding her was a chore done on a rotational basis because going at it against her at 100% would be like doing that to a young teen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:28 PM
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Just because you label yourself a feminist doesn't mean you have a superior set of observations. You're just a single feminist who disassociates from the larger movement when it's convenient. Something that is perfectly typical of modern day feminists. "You say that not knowing what real feminism is. I'm the feminist here!" "You say that not knowing what actual communism is like" "I'm a muslim and I can tell you unequivocally that this is not Islam" "Oh that's not real [insert dogmatic ideology]…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:33 PM
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Do you think you're owed sympathy from strangers for your problems? The expectation of continuous and exclusive sympathy from strangers for real or imagined problems and aggressively persisting in demanding it is pretty much exactly what modern day feminism is all about. How ironic. So the most privileged group in society should be coddled and told how special they are to protect their fee fees, or they'll join a cult out of spite? Just because cis white guys tend to be unaware of their privileg…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:11 PM
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Who fucking cares. He was a celebrity. Celebrities are literally the least authentic class of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 08:37 PM
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Twas "appropriated" from black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 10:57 AM
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Isolating them is precisely what I advise. Damaged people produce other damaged people. I don't know about the other stuff. Despicable behaviour is despicable behaviour. I suggest you stop being prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:40 PM
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Psychopathic narcissists are also human. You should be extremely wary of them all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:03 PM
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I am more concerned about the sorts of people that are susceptible the tremendous emotional damage that getting involved with borderlines can cause. You may not realize it but encouraging others to pity and be forgiving of borderlines is way more harmful than encouraging extreme wariness. Borderlines hurt gentle, kind, empathetic, and loving people the most. Abused people are the most abusive. Though not all borderlines have been abused. Nothing good comes from being romantically involved with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:40 PM
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I've witnessed firsthand "evil-minded" behaviour from a person who I later learned was borderline. "Evil-minded" behaviour that is 100% characteristic of the disorder. Personality disorders are a class of mental disorders characterized by enduring maladaptive patterns of behavior, cognition, and inner experience, exhibited across many contexts and deviating markedly from those accepted by the individual's culture. These patterns develop early, are inflexible, and are associated with significant …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:20 PM
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*some reasons why Don't say those are the reasons. There are plenty of other reasons. E.g. getting attached to a man who is vulnerable to their emotional manipulation. Or even the normalization of their destructive behaviour as society shifts towards being accepting of infantilized women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:21 PM
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Treatable to what degree? Besides, the first step to treatment is diagnosis. As long as there are enablers and general ignorance of the pasterns of behaviour then cluster b sorts will continue going through life causing enormous destruction. Eg mattress girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:54 PM
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There's been a massive jump in recent times. Every other sexually active girl walking around on a university campus has a rape story these days. Having been raped is like the latest "i'm a vegan" or "i'm a crossfitter."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 01:06 PM
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Borderline Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Research them thoroughly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 01:00 PM
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Your scale is way off, my man. If she dropped 10 pounds and presented herself better she'd easily be a 7 in that picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:11 AM
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She isn't that fat at her thinnest. Semi-NSFW That's her from many years ago. 6.5 seems about right to me. 4 is unfuckable territory, in my books. I don't think she's unfuckable, physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:23 PM
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Her weight seems to fluctuate. I'm talking about her at her thinnest and when she's dolled up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:08 PM
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This doesn't apply to all men. Lacking the interpersonal skills (partially due to a low emotional intelligence) and SMV to satisfy an extremely high libido is is a common experience. The resulting sense of failure forces more thoughtful men to take a long hard look at themselves while making a serious effort to understand the psychology of women. This pays off enormously in the long-term. Women have different problems. But I'm not a woman, so I won't talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:05 PM
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The only miserably predictable thing is you. You keep saying to me "she's lying," and I'm not saying she isn't. I'm saying I'm not convinced she is. I keep saying she's a liar because she is. Let's say that he did put it in her butt when she wasn't expecting it while they were having totally consensual normal vaginal sex. That doesn't make her other lies anything else. It's well established that she lied repeatedly about the nature of her contact with the accused. But I would also provide eviden…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 08:41 PM
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Women mature more quickly than men. Tis a fact. A ton of men benefit in the long-term by being thrust into the sexual marketplace when their brain is still developing. That's an experience that gives one perspective for later in life. Women do not benefit from this. There are a large number of men who are not at all sexually sucessful in their early to mid twenties and turn things the fuck around. No such thing happens for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 07:56 PM
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... or she's an unstable chick who was revelling in the positive attention that she was receiving prior to getting exposed as a complete liar.Those sorts are out there, you know? I can't get on board with the infantilization of women, either. Let's not start giving chicks like this a complete pass on their ludicrous behaviour and applaud them like they're children when they repeatedly lie and go out of their way to capture people's attention. It's pathetic. Stop giving them every excuse under th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 07:06 PM
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It has to do with dramatically different hormone profiles and biological imperatives. In nature, the consequence of females engaging in indiscriminate sex (the sort of thing that a horny male would do) is getting bogged down with lower quality offspring. The selection pressure on females was to be selective about their mates. This is all instinctual and not the consequence of a woman sitting down and reasoning. They aren't as interested in the sexual act itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:52 PM
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She's a 6.5 but fairly intelligent and the rare sort of girl that is able to relate to nerdy white knight types. She's a queen in their eyes. It's no surprise at all that she can screw around with ease in those circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:28 PM
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It isn't at all important to me that you in particular agree with me. It's just that I'm painfully aware of the fact that there is a sizeable number of people that continue to support her without bothering to consider the publicly available details. I also know that she's been paraded around as an anti-rape activist who says shit like: 1) "If we frame sexual violence as a science, whose side will we end up on every time?" 2) "When people demand proof of an act of sexual violence, ask yourself wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 05:28 PM
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Her lies are documented. She literally begged for his dick after the encounter. She repeatedly inquired about his other relations after the rape. She repeatedly told him that she loved him after the so-called rape. He didn't reciprocate. So she filed a complaint 7 months after the incident. 7 fucking months. The university and the police both dropped it. She proceeded to walk around campus with a frigging mattress. She lied about not knowing him before the rape. She said he was just some random …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 01:09 PM
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Pretty easy to tell if you actually bothered to read the messages released (both before and after the so-called rape). It's painfully clear that the sort of people who celebrate an attention whore walking around campus with a frigging mattress either never actually look at evidence or dismiss it if it conflicts with their sanctimony. That chick is a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:08 AM
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You're simultaneously upset at mattress girl's disgusting behaviour and that I called her "that chick?" You have to be kidding me...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 02:43 AM
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... I.e. "carry that weight" To summarize, you're offended by me calling a celebrated lunatic "that chick." I, on the other hand, am offended by her despicable behaviour. Is that clear enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 02:28 AM
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"Chick" is about as offensive as "dude." Personally, I find false rape accusations and blatant attention whoring, i.e. "carrying that weight," offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 02:18 AM
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Is that considered offensive these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 01:47 AM
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I just went back and looked at that exchange. All I will say is that undiagnosed cluster-b personality disorders are real. That chick is textbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 01:10 AM
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Seems to me like every physical altercation described is 1v1.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 08:48 AM
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Male. Yes it is. Sex isnt merely a pleasant physical experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:26 AM
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My point is, combine social pressures with sexual-psychologial pressures and most people are in a cage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:03 AM
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At this stage in the game, anybody who consciously makes themselves aware of the instincts of their sex is exceptional because of the nonsensical "anti-patriarchy' tilt of the public conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:39 AM
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I'll still be writing that poorly received sci-fi novel about the 22nd century philosopher king/queen. Fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:04 AM
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By the choices of people who are measurably more empathic, intelligent, and knowledgeable than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:00 AM
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In a fictitious world/ideal world that will likely ever only exist in our imagination, the position of absolute leadership will only be accessible to people who have undergone a very rigorous selection process going back to their early childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:57 PM
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Precisely what I mean by the perfect/impossible political system. That's utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:52 PM
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People should only be allowed to participate in the political process if they meet a certain empathy, intelligence, and knowledgr threshold. I obviously cannot define this but my point is that people of low empathy and/or low intelligence and/or low understanding, i.e. the vast majority of people, should be disenfranchised. The perfect political system would be a benevolent dictatorship. Plato outlined it millennia ago with his notion of the philosopher king. Practical. Wise. Uncompromising. Imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:41 PM
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Democracy is uncritically accepted as the best form of government. It's not. In a better world, neither the vast majority of men nor women would have a political say. I can go outside right now and 10/10 men and women will tell me that 9/11 was an unforeseeable tragedy that reminds us all of the threat presented by "terrorists." Never mind the most powerful cabal in human history hinging on that misapprehension. Fuck democracy. Edit: I'd deny women the vote today
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:30 PM
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He seems to be. If he is then I agree. Its fucked. But from those described interactions those people quite possibly deserved it. Very likely in my view. You must also realize that the puncher is human. He is reacting to a lifetime of proverbially failing to punch the bully in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:34 PM
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I'm a young guy (23). A few years ago, I would not be satisfied with any particular belief or position unless I could convince others that it was correct. The single biggest improvement in my life was recognizing that "stupid is as stupid does." Stupid people by definition are incapable of arriving at the same conclusions as smart people. A discriminating examination of TRP is literally impossoble for the vast majority of people. Those who stumble across it and accept it due to a highly unsatisf…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:27 PM
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Like you said, it's all bullshit. Or mostly bullshit. There is a very small chance that it's true but I wouldn't bet on it. That said, and I don't advise others emulate the guy, but I have hard time taking much offense to the dude's actions. The biggest falsehood hoisted on society is that some people dont deserve getting physically hurt. It's okay to imprison a person for several years, or fine them, but if some POS gets punched in the face I'm supposed to think that's fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:08 PM
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It's making it clear that a man has options. That is not abusive. I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around how a person can say that I'm abusing a woman by indirectly suggesting that I have options. dread game is playing hard to get while looking fabulous Not the way TRPers do it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:41 PM
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Poorly phrased but I understand what you're getting at. Masculinity and femininity correspond to attractive traits from the perspective of natural selection. Women would naturally find more masculine males as more suitable mates. And vice-versa. To give a classic example, a male is going to be out off by a promiscuous female because he is more doubtful that her children are his. It is a poor reproductive strategy to provide for her offspring because of this doubt. The feminine archetype and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:22 PM
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Are you capable of even entertaining the possibility? I think a good study that would vindicate my view would have a very difficult time being approved by ethics boards. Believe it or not, many women that I know very well would describe themselves as being more emotionally sensitive to stress than the men they know. Must be internalized misogyny. I am satisfied with my conclusion. It has improved my relations with the women in my life. I understand women quite well these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:56 PM
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What's your evidence that masculinity and feminity are nothing more than social constructs? You're making a positive assertion and you don't even seem to be aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:26 PM
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The difference in evolutionary role for mate attraction between men and women. My direct observation in my extensive interaction with women (including relatives). The societal norm that it is more acceptable for women to embrace their emotional reactions. These are the reasons why i know women are more emotionally affected by stress. Cry about it. You have no position on the subject. And yet I'm an asshole in your mind for having formed my own and knowing it to be the truth. How utterly lame of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:37 PM
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The idea is independent of the community. I suspect I'd get along well with only a small percentage TRPers. I still accept the general ideas because they appeal to my reason. I think quakers are generally lovely people. Doesn't mean I give more credence to their beliefs because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:59 PM
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I'm not saying it's true because it's my opinion. It happens to be my opinion and true. What logic and observations that you've made leads you to believe that women handle stress just as well or better than men? (I feel like have to specify that I'm generalizing in the same way as saying men are physically stronger than women since you don't seem all that sensible so there you go.) What it boils down to as I knew from the get-go is that I've offended you. Puny minds are ever so swift to assign c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:03 PM
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Truth and opinion are not mutually exclusive, genius. You drew a parallel between my attitude and that of an honest rapist. And now you've somehow taken exception to my sarcastic reaction. You're ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:42 PM
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It's a subtle way of thinking. That's the whole idea. Most of those beliefs aren't overtly expressed. They're plugged in. No awareness of the mental prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:10 PM
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Correct. That's my opinion. A blue puller may hold some of those views subconsciously and even operate under those unspoken assumptions but there are internal conflicts. And they're not entirely comfortable with the idea that men and women are distinguished by more than their reproductive organs alone. The tragic irony for blue pillers is that they think women are their exact equals in all things while at the same time pedestalizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:55 PM
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Okay. 1) putting the needs of romantic interests before one's own 2) thinking that men and women (outside of physical attraction) seek the same thing in a partner. Or that they should be expected to if they're "good" 3) that women are flowery creatures who will love you for who you are and not your projected qualities 4) that traditional masculinity and feminity are bad social constructs that must be done away with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:36 PM
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Blue pill and anti-trp are different. Blue pill by definition do not know they're blue pill. Just wanted to get that out of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:26 PM
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Because it mutated into a postmodern abomination that only truly benefits delusional people who refuse to better the form and function of their body because of mental weakness. I understand nutrition and exercise very well. It's all very simple. Difficult but simple. If FA types came out and said I don't think the effort in becoming fit is worth it then okay. That's fine. Poor self image and compromised health is a cost that you're willing to pay for unrestricted eating habits and a sedentary li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:27 AM
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The problem is that a very significant percentage of those who insist on trigger warnings and claim to have been triggered are either unaware of what constitutes severe emotional distress. Or have a cluster-b personality disorder. Muddying the water for everybody. Nothing good comes without cost. Open diacourse comes with a cost too. I am entirely in favour of support groups and designated safe spaces. Walking on egg shells around emotionally unstable people is unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 10:03 PM
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Trigger warnings didn't even exist a few years ago. A quick look around any arts department these days and even message boards gives one a pretty good sense of the trend towards censorship. A professor at my university got in hot water for triggering students in a fucking lecture. I don't remember the details but the content wasn't anything he could have expected to cause severe emotional distress. Eventually you're gonna have people saying that trigger warnings themselves draw their mind to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:39 PM
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The world is a despicably cruel place. I do not respect people who prevent others from openly discussing social problems and exploring solutions for fear of being triggered. I never will. And I've repeatedly observed just that. It is common decency to avoid inflicting unnecessary physical or emotional harm. It is also common decency to shoulder one's wounds silently if it will benefit others for you to do so. Those who seek to make every space a "safe" one are tremendously destructive. They have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:14 PM
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The only point of the analogy is that there is no such thing as a declared blue pill. You being anti-TRP doesn't make you blue pill. You're operating outside of the analogy so the characterization does not apply to you. You're welcome to dismiss my opinion as I said. Frankly, I wasn't expecting to sway you. But it's the truth. Ah... likening me to a rapist now. Lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:06 PM
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Everybody has emotional triggers. Narcissists have latched on to the notion of trigger warnings and made a joke of it. Trigger warnings are for content that can be reasonably expected to induce severe emotional distress. Not for disquieting content. The most privileged people in the world are those who expect everybody to respect their real or imagined triggers beyond what is expected of decent adults. And that is precisely what is happening these days. I have nothing but contempt for such peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:00 PM
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I said blue pill types. That includes men that I consider friends. Examples of the subtle infantilization include the assumption that women are less responsible for their drunken decisions than men. Another example would be that women are less able to cope with distress and require more comfort than men. I am speaking of my male friends here. "Blue pill types." It's a generalization, sure. How do I not get what? You're welcome to dismiss my anecdotal experience. I don't think women respond to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:45 PM
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I "joined" the red pill because a lot of the sidebar material rang true to me. I grew up with positive masculine figures in my life (masculine, not merely male). When I went away for university, I was of a progressive mind but quickly picked up on the unmistakably feminizing influence of things like "safe spaces," "trigger warnings", perennial victimhood, " privilege, and the loose usage of the term oppression. Weakness being embraced and celebrated. Emotional instability being normalized. Rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:33 PM
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Both TRP and TBP do. Blue pill types do it more subtly. I don't agree with TRP about women's ability to reason. I will say, however, that it has been consistently my experience that women are more easily overcome by emotion. Unequivocally so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:06 PM
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100x this. That precise realization dramatically changed my life for the better. It was never entirely a conscious thing but I used to incorrectly assume that every reasonably attractive and smart girl that I met was wonderful by default. I know better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:01 PM
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Humans behaviour will never be uniform. There are too many variables owing to our intelligence. To much complexity for perfectly predictable behaviour. That doesn't mean that there aren't easily identifiable tendencies. Both observationally and logically. The effect of social conditioning is enormous but overstated by progressive leftist types. Humans do have instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:40 AM
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I agree that intersectionality is theoretically correct. But I also find that in practise it has come to be wielded as a tool by black and white thinking narcissists who only feign empathy and are quick to declare enemies. The projection of moral superiority is in itself an end for the sort of rigid "activists" that I've come to despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 11:45 PM
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How does an adult allow that sort of disrespect for months is the much better question. Edit: Nevermind. It's a non-story. "The worker said Key came back soon after the last incident with two bottles of wine from his own vineyard and gave them to her, saying 'This is for you, sorry, I didn't realise.'"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 11:34 PM
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There are different types of LMR. It's not just "I don't want to have sex with you." It's called last-minute resistance. Not resistance. That means there is an established attraction. Of course, that doesn't mean every idiot out there is going to behave appropriately if they're made aware of the notion of breaking down LMR. And it doesn't mean LMR should even be attempted to be broken down in every instance. To give an example. Girls have told me they're on their period when about to get busy cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 11:05 PM
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Not if both parties are rational. Either the person who is doing the loving must be irrational or the subject is irrational (and thus cannot be faulted for certain behaviour). I love my dog unconditionally. I can never love a woman unconditionally. I expect that I will love my children unconditionally. Even into adulthood but that is because at that point I will no longer be capable of not loving them and thus irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 09:46 PM
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An acknowledgement of the differences between the sexes would be a good start. Gender roles that complement these differences and harmonize them begin and end with an enlightened understanding of our biology and its relation to our social behaviour. TRP is plagued by bad logic but it's much closer to the truth then the postmodern view that gender roles are a construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 08:37 PM
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I'll take that as a compliment. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:48 PM
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TRP is no different than any loose affiliation. There is a range of quality among its members. Hypocrisy and poor reasoning is to be expected. Especially given the subject. Sexual frustration isn't gonna bring out the best in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:46 PM
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Well the fact that you think men and women play identical roles tells me that you have an unrealistic perspective. Men initiate. Women do not. Men have a much higher libido. Men are sexually attracted to a set of qualities that might overlap but is also quite different than what women are attracted to. I know bp sorts like to ridicule the notion of "biotroofs." Humans are a sexually dimorphic species. It is simply not the case that the difference between the sexes is a strictly visible anatomica…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:39 PM
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I'll be the first to say I'm not LTR material right now. I don't really understand your use of the term easy. You are aware that men and women don't generally play the same role in "courtship," right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:27 PM
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You assume that I view slut-shaming negatively. Particularly the broad conception in use these days. I don't think women need to be sexually policed. I merely have no interest in women who have slept with dozens of men. It's a personal preference. I don't think they're suitable medium-term or long-term partners for myself. You're making a huge assumption about me. I don't get validation from my sexual activity. I did once. Not any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:22 PM
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Personally, I don't make it a point to pursue many different women. No easy women for me. I'm actually quite discerning now that I have a decent amount of notches. Doesn't mean I'm interested in a LTR. TRPers would call it spinning plates. I call it one form of a satisfying sex life. Notches have all kinds of psychological benefits for emotionally stable men. Gives perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:17 PM
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Ah, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:49 PM
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For the vast majority of men, sex isn't as readily available as it is for a moderately attractive woman. Each notch is a minor achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:47 PM
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It is about questioning their bonding ability. No reasonable person will be put off by a woman whose had sex hundreds of times with a handful of men. Not the same for women who have had sex the same number of times but with many different men. I've heard it directly from women that the sexual act isn't merely a physical one. I immediately lose interest in a woman who treats it as purely physical because of my experience. That is the what I know to be a slut. I don't really consider emotionally u…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:44 PM
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So you never factor in the reaction of men to how you dress... are you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:37 PM
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Obviously the thought that the zoepost actually had a positive intended purpose is completely beyond you. I do not approve of the fact that Zoe Quinn has been harassed. GamerGate is a significant social phenomenon and I made the choice to inform myself before taking a position. Unlike you. Being pro-gamergate and anti-internet harrassment are only mutually exclusive in your puny mind. If you have any intellectual integrity, you will either read the zoepost with an open mind before insulting peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 08:54 PM
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Studies are increasingly pointing towards Gender Identity (completely separate from Gender Expression or Roles) being determined by the brain, as Transgender people have various brain structures which appear much more like those of their identified gender as opposed to those of their birth sex. I'd be interested in hearing more about the differences in brain structures. Does that only apply to people who feel very strongly that they are the wrong sex or does it also apply to those who are gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 06:38 PM
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Sorry to disappoint. I guess you're just gonna have to take my word that getting girls ain't an issue. Yes, I read the zoepost. No, I'm not a maladjusted ghoul for actually informing myself on a subject before declaring a position. As comforting as it might be, you really need to snap out of that delusion that everybody who disagrees with you on the subject is an overweight, melanin-challenged, UV-deprived, basement dweller who hates women. I love women. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 06:27 PM
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You must be willfully blind to not know that men clearly take greater exception to a partner that sleeps around than vice-versa. It is common sense from an evolutionary perspective and an easily observable social phenomenon. "Polyamorous" types are an obvious exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:38 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:17 AM
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First of all, it's Somalis. Not "Somalians." Secondly, please limit your commentary to subjects that you have at least a basic understanding of. Somalia clearly isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 09:51 AM
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Lol. I'm Somali. The situation there is so utterly misunderstood that it's actually genuinely very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 09:48 AM
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I'm simply not convinced that tackling the problem from the angle "person born in the wrong body" - the all too common moralistic trope that is a sort of sacred cow in "educated" circles - is the best way. I have never seen a trans person that is entirely convincing (outside of "lady-boys" but i have an unrelated theory about that)and I can only imagine the sexual difficulties for heterosexual trans people. If the available procedures, of which I am somewhat ignorant, are able to produce truly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:30 PM
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I was preempting your immature reaction. Frankly, it's kinda pathetic how often I observe people like you dismissing the views of others by accusing them of being something along the lines of a "maladjusted ghoul." It's really common and it's extremely obnoxious. Very cold hearted, really. FYI, I'm a healthy, attractive, well-adjusted man of colour, who has plenty of success with women. That alone doesn't make my opinion anymore valid just like how the opinions of reclusive, overweight, lonely, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:10 PM
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How weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:23 PM
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I don't understand why you're so averse to looking at readily available evidence. Youre arguing from a position of complete ignorance and you seem to think yourself superior for it. Smh... And please don't act like the very post that started the whole gamergate thing is beneath your attention. It clearly suits your inflexible, preconceived and ill-informed take to dismiss it so at the very least excuse yourself from the discussion with some grace. (No, I'm not some disgruntled, misogynistic, vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:48 AM
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Not BP. Just wanted to say that the reason why a man should never seek the advice of women is because they give emotionally rewarding feedback. Just like they tell all of their friends that they're beautiful and a man would be lucky to have them, they'll tell you that you just have to be yourself blah blah because that's what feels right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:24 AM
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Symptom of a larger social problem. Educated people are unwilling to objectively analyze social concerns. There is a widespread assault on the objective analysis on things like the difference between men and women, racial issues, the truth about obesity, sexual dynamics, etc. Feels > realz basically. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Normalizing it harms those that are gender dysphoric the most. Pumping a person full of hormones and then condemning them to a life plagued by poor body image v…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 10:35 AM
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Do you apply this to TRP as well? Or do you assume that they are all bitter men who feel entitled despite being unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 06:09 PM
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Generally speaking, I'd say men. But for the most part, the women that I've seen bitch and moan about the "patriarchy" are precisely those that seem to have it easiest among women, ie upper middle class university students. Frankly, I think there are so many massive social issues on the global level that I have an exceedingly difficult time lending an ear to the sort of feminists on my university campus. Shit ain't perfect but let's worry about looming calamities before dismantling the "patriarc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 06:00 PM
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Exactly. People are so quick to identify with a group that they immediately accept those they think are of like mind and reject "the other side." TRP is full of people who have barely read anything and are very swift to generalize their limited experience and/or the experience of others to all of intergender interaction. Just because there is a lot of unadulterated truth in the wider community doesn't mean that there isn't a bunch of idiots that are laughably misguided within TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:54 PM
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Because TRP attracts a bunch of men who aren't willing to make a serious effort to analyze and accept or reject individual components of TRP. The whole analogy of swallowing the pill is a bad one. How an "aspiring alpha" who derides all things "beta" can claim to have swallowed the pill is beyond me. You'd be amazed by the variety of perspectives if you were willing to entertain the possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:48 PM
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