She has no idea how lucky she is to have this man in her and her son's lives. If she was back on the market she would quickly learn she is pump and dump material and would greatly struggle to find a committing dude like her fiance.
Knowing how much I love my kids, I couldn't date a single mom because of the fear of losing the relationship with their kids. That would just be crushing for me and likely the kids too.
Dude, you're absolutely right. After I got married I stopped getting BJs unless I ask. I have to say I am happily married and she is a good submissive wife/mother and get regular sex but Bjs are a thing of the past unless prompted lmao.
Pay is directly related to time/money/difficulty needed for training and replaceability. EMTs are easy to find and replace and therefore should be making a low wage. If she chose a) to live in a cheaper COL city or b) a more lucrative profession, she would not have this issue. All of her described issues are hers to own. Want more money? Work towards education and training/certification toward a better paying job. No s(i)mpathy here.
Please do not take this personally but I think that is totally unrealistic. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. That said, I truly hope you find what you are looking for, if it exists. I find it sad that people are so defeatist in regards to marriage and don't consider it a lifelong commitment.
Totally agree. I came out okay but my brother is a heroin-addicted mess due to the trauma suffered during our parent's divorce. I would never divorce my wife due to that, my kids mean more to me than any founded or unfounded complaints I could have, barring infidelity.
She likes to be stretched by the bbc. A lot of these types fetishize black dudes as being forbidden and exotic, especially the ones who want revenge on their dads
It's a part of being a young man. Believe me, I was furious all of the time at that age, due to redpill rage and other reasons. You are channeling it into something productive by working out. Just know that it's normal and that you can't get rid of it but you can improve yourself and the way you handle it. Don't succumb to drugs and drink as you get older. Instead, focus on hobbies for mental health and improving your education so money won't be another problem in your life. Also, don't trust an…
Thank you. I agree it's rare nowadays. I think a lot of it is right time/place luck to meet the right person who has morals and character. Another issue I see is people aren't willing to put WORK into a relationship, they just expect it to fall into their lap and handle itself. It's a lot of work but worth it if she at least meets you halfway. Kids are important to me so I could never go full MGTOW for that reason alone. They bring tons of joy and genuine laughter to life. My advice is work on y…
All people suck, including me and you. Don’t trust anyone and try to avoid as much interaction as possible. Recognize and learn when someone is taking advantage of you.
Split everything with my wife before we got married. People would give “the look” when they found out I wasn’t paying for everything before we got married.
Spot on. I know a guy at work who was heading for divorce and complained about his lazy alcoholic wife all the time. Now, he just works nights or overtime all the time and seems obsessed with overtime
I loved it but I'm introverted. I do get a little weird if I don't make enough effort to be social after a while. That said, I found MGTOW after I got married with kiddos so haven't lived alone in over 10 yrs.
Thank you for the good advice. I have gone to HR after being here about a year and that accomplished nothing unfortunately. She is older and will hopefully retire eventually but I plan to respond in kind until then or if something better comes along and I leave
Agreed. Men can certainly be very bad people, as much as women can be. Scorned men tend to want to believe men are less scheming and vicious but that will change with experience
This is helpful. So often I run into women at work who are extremely entitled and think they need attention before anyone else. You really nailed it when you said if a guy treated people like this it would come to blows but women totally know they can get away with it
I’ve dropped many friends over the years, sometimes ghosting them outright if needed. The vast majority of people will betray you eventually. Going your own way is always a good idea.
Women can’t code their way out of a wet paper bag in my experience. They ride the coattails of men like you. Good job speaking up bit be careful, you’ll not change any minds and risk a lot.
Fucking horribly sad for the kid. But alas, not his problem. Fuck that pisses me off that she was such a whore that her kid suffers. Hope she rots in hell
This is really interesting to me because I considered Pinterest a vagina sanctum. My wife gets all sorts of women-centric stuff on there, including delicious new recipes
I gotta disagree with this one. Normally fully support mgtow but you cheated on her. Cheating is bullshit cop out behavior, divorce if it’s that bad but never cheat IMO. You deserve this and you fucked your poor kids by fucking up your marriage.
Women don’t gaf when their resource machine dies. They just hop onto the next dick. This ho in my neighborhood was widowed and you can guess correctly that she instantly hopped onto the cc with no hesitation.
I gotta disagree one one thing. Kids are so damn cool to have. Hilarious and fun. Even if my wife and I don’t make it, I will never regret having them.
My wife was pissed that I went fishing all day Sunday and wasn’t home helping with the kids. Don’t get married, men. Kids are awesome though so it’s a tough choice.
Maybe he was better without her because she dragged him down so much and shit on him. What a selfish turd she is. Also boo hooing about her job and condishuns; get a better job if you hate it instead of botching
Please keep fighting even if just for your kids. It’s going to fuck your kids up if you check out. Like others said, embrace minimalism and keep going. We can be your support
Women hate each other no exceptions but will rush to defend depraved behavior of other women. They know they want to do the same fucked up things even when they know it’s fucked up and wrong.
That's the thing. I agree with MGTOW philosophy and lifestyle and greatly admire it. There is only one fatal (in my opinion) flaw to the idea; that is not having children. I have a daughter and soon a son and it has enriched my life SO much to have a little one around.
Damn man. You seem like a bright and together dude. I sighed several times reading your story, reliving that same feeling of a mountain leveling me after facing a similar life-changing event when I was younger. Sorry this happened to you. You have a lot of potential and are obviously smart. Glad to see your defenses have increased to prevent this shit from happening again.
That’s the thing... it’s never platonic. There is always a power struggle, whether hidden or blatant. I firmly believe men and women can’t just be friends from personal experience
Having kids is one of the best decisions I’ve made. Regardless if things work out in the long run with my wife I will always love my kids. They’re hilarious, fun, challenging, infuriating and wonderful. MGTOW is an outstanding community of good people but don’t let it be the end-all for you. Make your own choice, it’s about going your own way, not what other people think you should do.
Those people are pathetic. Bunch of post CC hoes whining about being 40 and having no kids or husband. Who would want to shack up with a used up thot like that?
I’m in my early to mid 30’s and I can’t tell you how many older men I’ve met who have been going their own way for decades without ever putting that title on it. It’s an old philosophy but tried and true
I feel bad for your generation having to grow up in this shitty hostile environment. I used to scheme to get as much booty as possible and now you guys are needing to defend against words without evidence or truth
This is very true. In my career, almost always it was an attractive, charismatic woman who advances the fastest. Merit & ability are secondary as a rule
That’s fucking disgusting. I can even fathom 100 partners. What man in his right mind would even become engaged to a nasty skank like that. Good call to cancel the wedding
I know this isn’t going to ease the situation but last time I stopped to help someone push their car off the road when it broke down, I got a look like I was the one inconveniencing the people I was trying to help. Yeah they may have been stressed but a tiny thank you would have been nice. Honestly it makes me think twice to stop and help due to the bad taste that left. I know it sounds minor but at the time it was disappointing.
While I emphasize with what you’re experiencing, this isn’t the essence of mgtow. It’s more of an incel rant. Incels and mgtow are fundamentally different and shouldn’t be lumped together
This is against the grain but being a dad, I hope for the child’s sake she figures out a good situation. Babies are totally innocent of their parents selfish decisions.
I’m truly sorry, man. I had a women whom I loved do something similar but I didn’t catch them together. It hurt for a few years but if I had known about the incredible support system that is MGTOW, it would have greatly eased the pain. I hope that you can find solace here and know that if you ever need to vent, you have an audience.
