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For older generations this was true. Millennial women and younger actually cheat at higher rates than their corresponding men. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:10 PM
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I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:56 AM
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User of... Steroids or people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:45 AM
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Trust me, you can still fuck up with women as an attractive man. Looks and status will open the door, but personality is what gets you in
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:43 AM
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Can't necessarily disagree with that. But almost everybody is weird on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:40 AM
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Yes, a lot of successful men are naturally red pill Well... He talks specifically about finding the red pill on the internet so I wouldn't call him naturally RP That said, DMs and messages mean nothing For a woman, DMs mean nothing. For a man, its definitely bragging rights. Only the top percentage of men will ever have real women in his inbox begging him to choke them Post Wall Hag Post wall or not, you're still cool in my book. And what YouTuber isn't trying too hard 24/7? Thats basically thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:37 AM
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You're still not even coming close in terms of the sheer numbers. Spin it however you want my guy, being in denial about the facts never helps
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:34 AM
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Bro. Add that up and you're still not even close to what America did to the natives. Or what the Germans did to the jews. History doesn't lie and the west was built on atrocities. Anyways this is pointless. In Eastern Europe alcoholism and suicide is rampant. And? Both of these are issues in the west too. Nobody is saying EE is some paradise, but you cant deny that western society wasn't the low key super villain of the last millennium. EDIT: I forgot that America is still the only country thats…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:38 AM
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That explains a lot actually. I always imagined you were a woman that could handle her vodka
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:32 AM
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You completely missed the point. Colonialism and trans-atlantic slavery were the exploitations i was talking about. Russia had nothing to do with any of that while basically every western European country got in on the action for HUNDREDS of years. Even if you take into account how fucked up the USSR was, it still doesn't equal the enslavement, rape and murder of millions of people . Plus, western countries stole 2 and half continents. Its not even close to the same level of severity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:31 AM
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You're russian kat?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:12 AM
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I mean... América did the same thing plus some. Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:11 AM
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Sounds like a civil rights win for Russia to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:44 PM
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We need to be careful to try not to super impose our own societal norms on societies that are not ours, Exactly. Its even more difficult when we're talking in terms of "red" or "blue". The terms themselves are vaguely defined. But I think we can both agree that blue generally argues for gender roles to be undone while red actively embraces them. So a society with stricter gender roles would be inherently red
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:01 PM
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I didn't say they would be a fixed type. I said the culture they eventually develop would likely be closer to old world eastern cultures than the western standard. And some of the most RP countries are all in warm paradises. So I'm not sure your tropical island scenario would be as rosy as your thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:49 PM
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Ahhh okay. I think there's a couple reasons for it. Starting with the harsh financial conditions of most EE countries. I dont think women from circumstances like this have the time or energy to overthink things like their western sister Plus Russian women were some of the first in modern times to gain equal opportunities like voting rights and they've seen that just because they can do everything a man can, its not as fun or glamorous as it sounds A Russian writer talked about this, I'll drop th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:45 PM
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The specific environment would definitely play a role on how things turned out, but the purpose of this post wasn't about the island situation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:39 PM
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Western economic advantage comes from the hundreds of years of free labor and economic exploitation of developing nations and their peoples. Even then, there are still failing western economies Surely you know this already
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:37 PM
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I travel pretty often and I've never heard of the cult of nature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:43 PM
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Eastern Europe has high rates because of crushing economic conditions, not cultural ones. Compared to western cultures that have much higher levels of economic mobility and stability but still have suicide issues
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:42 PM
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I just can't agree with this. Saying man conquered everything denies the fact that humans haven't mapped the entire landmass, explored all the oceans or even beaten the common cold
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:39 PM
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Under no definition are Japan or Korea part of western society. They might be westernized but they aren't western by any means. And Mexico/South America is a toss up. They share things in common with us but there are some major cultural differences that generally exclude them from the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:35 PM
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Ive heard of him but I still haven't checked out any of his writing. I'll have to look into it more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:13 PM
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Can you connect these dots for me please. I dont understand what you're getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:11 PM
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I know, I wasn't being snarky either. I didn't answer your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:10 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:08 PM
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When I say western culture, I'm primarily talking about the US, the UK, Canada and Australia. To an extent, I'm also including Nordic countries like Norway and Denmark which are supposedly the happiest places on Earth. But also have the highest suicide rates
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:55 PM
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not russian but ukrainian, polish and romanian I know men and women from all of these countries plus Albania and Serbia. Their general dispositions couldn't be more different from the standard Americans. But if your experience is different from everyone elses, who am I to dictate what you know. To each his own
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:04 PM
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Its intellectually disingenuous to say no society is more natural than others. A good example of this is poor people anywhere. If you've been anywhere where poverty is a tging, you'll notice its basically the same shit everywhere. And the behavior of non wealthy EE people and other old world cultures is magnitudes closer to the poor people in the west. So if people from different places, who speak different languages, and practice different religions come to the same answers coming from complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:59 PM
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I think technology would be necessary for the next phase, I couldn't see it being any other way. Human mating is just too random to produce consistent results across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:34 PM
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not the non-existent primal non-culture you want I don't want anything and I'd appreciate if you don't put words in my mouth. It is impossible (and incredibly unnatural for humans) to raise a child to survive to adulthood in a supposed “natural” state without imposing any kind of culture because children cannot grow up to be a healthy social animal without care Source? Humans are incredibly adaptable. There are a few known feral children, and all grew up to be incredibly disfunctional, They were…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:25 PM
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ways. I.E. Hunter Gatherer. Hunter Gatherer societies tend to have strict gender roles and defined division of labor. Thats now and in antiquity. This is my point Lord of the Flies was such an overrated book. My best guess, is that if you dropped 100 babies on an island with no outside influences... the results would be 100 dead babies. PPD posters seem to underestimate the ability of humans to survive and must have never heard of feral children. Would all 100 survive? Hell no, but enough would.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:19 PM
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Have you ever met any EE women IRL? They are some of the most naturally Red creatures on the planet Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:10 PM
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Lol tell me about it bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:08 PM
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Like I just said to another poster herw, I'm talking about the EE women i know from my city. And have you ever actually met any EE people? Even if they're country is economically shit, they are generally very proud people. It's not like they're just drooling to label themselves Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:07 PM
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You know I'm from Cleveland poppy. We have a huge diaspora of Eastern Europeans here so I've went to school, worked with and hung out with them my whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:01 PM
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Yepp but unfortunately feminismo is seeping into Latin America too. Just like in America its spread through the colleges. My lady friend in Guadalajara always calls me a "macho" (not a compliment, it's kinda like being called a sexist in English ) because I always tell her she needs to learn how to cook Its also gotten common to use gender neutral terms like amixes instead of amigos y amigas
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:10 AM
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Yepp, eastern european can be painfully blunt but its usually pretty tactful from my experience Unless we're talking the babushkas. Russian grandmas give zero fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:57 AM
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True equality would require equal opportunities, outcomes and repercussions regardless of race, size, intelligence, talent or skill. So Tyrion from GoT would score as many points in a basketball game as Lebron. Donald Trump would have the same chance of going to jail for sexual harassment as a homeless black man And the ugliest, brokest, most socially awkward dude you've ever met would be sleeping with the same amount and caliber of women as Leonardo DiCaprio. Not saying its entirely impossible,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:51 AM
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The day humanity manages to find true equality is the day we truly conquered nature. I don't think equal even exists in the animal kingdom. There's always and there's always losers but everything has a role to play Edit: Misspelling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:35 AM
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Most the eastern European women I've met are this strong, stoic type of feminine where they know they could do something themselves but they prefer to stick to traditional gender roles. They also tend to be very straightforward and play very few of the games we see in American dating. Not all the time but its a noticeable difference. The youngest generations might be a bit different but I don't interact with them like i do people around my age Here's some articles / videos by Russian women that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:31 AM
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I wonder if women are ever truly domesticated. For the most part, I think their default is to go along with whatever or whoever they view as dominant at that time This goes for men too but its nowhere near as prominent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:03 AM
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I agree 100% but keep in mind that no holds barred societies don't grow to giant sizes like we're used to. Anything goes just would'nt work past a certain population size But if we're talking smaller groups, than an elite class of men could definitely monopolize the available women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:53 AM
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I don't understand the question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:05 AM
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I hadn't thought of it that way. It would be much easier to follow biologically determined laws of nature than vaguely defined cultural norms
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:03 AM
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Definitely. I don't think it's a bad system per se but its far from perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:47 AM
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Ehhh the kids from Lord of the Flies were a little too old. I'm talking kids raised entirely by wolves or something. The specific situation doesn't matter that much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:46 AM
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I'm not for or against arranged it but my experience looking in on them is that they're no happier or more miserable than free will marriages. I think societies that practice them are red but arranging marriages is almost like an archaic blue pill practice that prevents the strongest and most powerful men in a society from being the only ones with access to women like it would be in a complete, no holds barred, free for all culture
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:17 AM
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U think you’re so “redpill” Not even red my guy but okay. Did you want an autograph or something? You're suspiciously obsessed with me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:51 PM
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Thanks, I'll check it out. His standup has a bunch of gems in it too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 12:07 PM
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Just let it go my guy. All that pent up anger and semen is bad for the soul
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 12:02 PM
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you’re in your moms basement yanking it wishing u had a better life and that somebody loves you My guy. Most your posting history is in r/semenretention I'll bet moving back into my moms house that all the shit you talking is about you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:13 AM
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but I’m sick of dudes complaining like bitches all day But your on here doing exactly that? Cmon my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 02:30 AM
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In one example, in a video entitled "Why Don't Women Take Accountability?" Jaxn starts by giving the sound advice that nobody likes to take accountability for fuckups, man or woman. Which is true. But then he immediately goes on a rant where he literally blames the whole thing on men There's a million examples just like this and other black men have called him out for it a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:18 AM
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The stand up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:05 AM
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Wow. Written like a real **** rider. Good job bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:05 AM
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This is legitimately one of my life goals
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:45 PM
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I really don't know much about dude's personal life honestly, just the baby mama drama that was circulating a little while back. I've heard him drop a few gems before, but it's alway tucked between some of the most god awful advice I've ever heard You're the 2nd person to mention Esther Perel, I might have to check her out sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:40 PM
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He's pretty mainstream among 20 and 30 somethings. Its not uncommon to find his videos shared on young women's social media accounts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:29 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:28 PM
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He's known for giving women advice that encourages them to sidestep accountability in 99% of situations. Advice like that is bad for either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:28 PM
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I actually saw one of this guys videos before. I didn't even know he gave dating advice to women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:26 PM
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He tells them to improve their physical appearance, reduce their 463 bullet point checklists to something more manageable, stop being unreasonable Really? I've heard him advocating for women to raise their standards My main problem with Steve Harvey is the same problem I have with Derrick Jaxn. They hide occasional gems of good advice in a mountain of enabling bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:25 PM
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Do women hate Steve Harvey? Almost all the hate I've seen comes from other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:22 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:32 PM
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I always thought it sounded like a really bad 80's action movie star's name
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:31 PM
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Derrick Jaxn?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:34 PM
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Relationships themselves aren't bad for men per se, it's the power dynamics and potential repercussions are what make them iffy. It's also x100 times easier to deal with the crazy of a woman you know than the unknown crazy you find out there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:23 PM
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Are you saying that men have some magical powers over the universe? It's not like men are exempt from unfairness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 05:18 AM
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In today's world, women would not be able to survive without male support. In what time period could women survive without male protection? Also, today men hold disproportionate power compared to women. Only the TOP men have any advantage. The average joe is actually has less power than the average female. Women have a laundry list of court sponsored options to destroy a man if they want to. The Red Pill documentary by this ex-feminist goes into that pretty well. I also want to address the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 03:09 AM
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I used to be a busboy as a teenager and trust me, we all love a little appreciation. Unappreciative customers are the ones that end up with mysterious substances in their food
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 02:44 AM
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The whole premise of not caring entails that whatever happens, happens. A man that doesn't care can't be cuckolded because he wouldn't be claiming women in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 02:13 AM
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Why do you act like women should be grateful for rights? Because NOBODY is entitled to ANYTHING in life, including rights. You act like the world is this inherently fair and peaceful place Its not, it never has been and most likely never will be. That's just life. But I'm highly grateful for the people that at least give the illusion of safety. Most of which just so happen to be men. Do you cower and grovel everytime a white man walks by for allowing you to live freely? Fuck no. But I do appreci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 02:05 AM
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I'm ecstatic I have hands instead of hooks. That sounds terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:09 AM
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They just don't want to be shot by the police Good news, they actually don't have to worry about that. What country is this true in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:58 AM
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Where did I insinuate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:57 AM
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Nowhere did I say that. The reaching in this thread is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:54 AM
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Let's go with magic laserbeam
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:49 AM
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They also probably hated the fact that you’re black Oh most definitely. Weirdest part is one of her brothers (who's gay) was dating a black dude at the time. Arabs can be very racist but we end up together in NA and back home relatively often You’re over here asking women if they’re grateful for their freedom when most of the world wonders if you’re grateful for yours. I'm extremely grateful to the good men and women, black or white that fought for my civil rights. As the first generation in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:37 AM
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Well, we wouldn't need protection from some men if some men didn't threaten us in the first place. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:29 AM
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Same to you PNG! I hope they weren't driving you too crazy while i was gone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:20 PM
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Just for the day. Did you miss me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:20 PM
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As a middle eastern woman, do you feel like western women take their freedom for granted? Sidenote: I dated a Palestinian girl once and her brothers were crazy protective, but cool dudes most the time. But they were also big believers in the whole "honor" thing. So when they first found out we were dating it was a very confusing mix of them saying they'd kill me if I hurt her AND making death threats against her too. Which SHE believed at the moment and it had us both freaked out for a while. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:08 PM
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Considering that in the documentary that sparked this post, they mentioned several cases of women being killed by their own families. Intentionally. So idk how helpful family would be in this scenario. And even if an entire family of men decided to protect their women, they'd still have to fight off armies of rapists. The odds arent good
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:56 PM
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Seems like the cause and solution are the same? Every vaccine has a little virus in it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:51 PM
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one of our most base human instincts is to reproduce and women bring us into the world and bring our offspring into it so it just isn't realistic to think that we will ever stop looking after women. So maybe they are right to feel entitled to that protection? I don't believe it's a base human instinct to protect women, family or not. Even today in some cultures, if ones sister got raped they will kill and/or disown the sister. Not too long ago in China, it wasnt uncommon for some girl babies to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:49 PM
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If you frame it only in physical strength, the only first class citizens would be fit young guys. I mean... That's basically how it worked for most societies throughout recorded history Warriors, politicians and nobility were basically the only classes that mattered. If you were a man or woman from the lower classes or an "untouchable", literally almost no one cared if you lived or died
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:38 PM
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We have easy access to guns now. But men have more? And men are more likely trained on how to use them Most millennial men weren’t even taught how to fight. Fair enough. But its not like millennial women are all MMA fighters. I'd bet on an untrained man over an untrained woman any day. Like when that trans woman smashed in an actual womans skull during an MMA fight. Men are just stronger, I dont think that's up for debate Modern organized society and equality means we don’t need you to protect u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 08:22 PM
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Why would we do that? It's a hypothetical question, fill in the blank yourself Suppose women collectively decided to abort all male fetuses. Or refuse to nurse and raise males. What could men really do about that? All of these options ends with human extinction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 08:16 PM
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Lol it's true. It sounds like you bake magical, slightly cardamom flavored crumpets every morning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:10 AM
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If I had to pick a side, I would say I lean red on most topics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:07 AM
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I don't think most people are built for hookup culture, man or woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:01 PM
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Guns, tanks, drones, whatever are just as deadly when being controlled by a woman as a man. True but physical strength is still a large part of warfare, especially in hand to hand combat. Stories like that female UFC fighter literally getting her skull crushed by a trans fighter and the 2 (mediocre against other men) trans runners that consistently outcompete their female competitors on the track shows that men are still leagues ahead in terms of physical prowess. Yes, women can fly drones and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 06:43 PM
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How is technology closing the gap of physical strength between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 06:20 PM
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Both sides have too much vitriol for me. Reds philosophy of rough realism and blues philosophy of fuzzy idealism both fucking suck. In reality, the truth is almost always somewhere in the middle. But Purple philosophy is equally as nondescript as Blues, and if the Purples of PPD are representative of what the purple pill is, I might have to change my flair color
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 04:53 PM
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Is that supposed to be my problem? It's Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:43 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cya8mm/female_thirst/eyr3m4z?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:30 AM
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And there's even more that agree. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:28 AM
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I'm curious how you handled thirsty/crazy guys trying to get your girl? I dont have a jealous bone in my body and I generally think it's a compliment if dudes are thirsty for my woman. As long as they're respectful about it, I really don't care. Me and my ex always used to laugh about the outrageous messages she got But I'm also possessive enough to make women still feel like I care about them even though I don't really get jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:26 AM
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people definitely downplay it a bit. Or deny it completely like this thread has shown me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:15 AM
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Then why are women still thirsty for high value men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:14 AM
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The top comments literally agree with my OP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:13 AM
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This is a very good time to be a good looking, charismatic man. Indeed it is man. It almost seems like incel debate, to be quite honest. 99% of the time PPD seems like an alternate dimension. The popular opinions here tend to be outrageous on so many levels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:12 AM
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What are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:56 AM
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It exists and it happens all the time. If you don't see it, its because you're choosing not to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:56 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:55 AM
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Sex drive has nothing to do with thirst levels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:53 AM
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I've been around the block enough times to generally know the difference between a girl being thirsty and a girl that's just being nice. I don't know why you're so mad that women can be thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:53 AM
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That whole thread is golden examples of female thirst. I can't thank you enough for linking this man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:51 AM
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Do you associate with people who feel it's appropriate to be raunchy and sexually forward? Yepp that's my community in a nutshell. But I don't think I've ever seen any demographic of women that NEVER show thirst. Rich, poor, black, white. Almost everybody can get thirsty for the right people in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:49 AM
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Thanks for some great examples!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:42 AM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:41 AM
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Yepp I always stay hydrated
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:40 AM
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Nobody was talking specifically about waitresses.... I don't know how you drew that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:59 PM
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Yes they're almost always either dramatic older (by 5-25 years) or a few years younger (by 5-7 years). This whole thread was inspired by an older lady I ran into at the gas station today that called me "sexy as fuck" and kept calling me bob Marley while touching my hair. She was more aggressive than what I usually get but stuff like this happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:58 PM
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I think Poppy said it in best in this thread. She gave some great examples of what I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:48 PM
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Nowhere in the OP did I say women were thirsty for ALL men. In fact, I stated that women have very specific triggers and the men who match those triggers receive all the thirst. Shit, even most men aren't thirsty for ALL women. ​ And you don't have to be famous for girls to be thirsty for you. There are plenty of good looking and/or charismatic "Average Joes" that inspire female thirst as well. Not quite at the same level as celebrities but it's still thirst
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:43 PM
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I think equally matched thirst is generally a good thing in most relationships. I believe it's a sign of a healthy pairing. ​ Also, I really appreciate your honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:37 PM
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I wasn't expecting any honest answers at this point and then you came through with the facts. The denial going on in here is just crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:34 PM
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I mean... I don't know how many different ways I have to clarify it. At least 2 of the women here understood it perfectly well. ​ Using any of the 8 definitions I provided, women are just thirsty for certain guys. Whether it's because of their looks, their money or their talent. It happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:28 PM
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Yeah partially. The rest of it was my life not stabilizing as fast as either of us wanted. I would say we both had 50/50 fault in the breakup Edit: Yes I'm black
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:42 PM
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Most dudes here don’t get how totally obvious their lack of experience is in their comments. Yeah this is why I dont come here as often any more. I hate to see guys struggling but some of these dudes are beyond help
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:40 PM
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Argue semantics all you want. Women are still thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:32 PM
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I never specified it had to be about sex or lust or that womens desire is equal in those areas. I'm saying women be thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:25 PM
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Do you need more examples? The entire Baller Alert website was founded just to let thirsty women know where the ballers are. Female thirst is far from rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:21 PM
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Top 8 Definitions of Thirsty / Thirst according to The Urban Dictionary: Too eager to get something (especially play) Desperate An adjective used in describing a person deliberatley, fishing for attention, compliments, etc. When you are horny for some ass A form of lust of or want of members of the opposite sex. This term can refer to both males and females. Someone who is desperate. A thirsty person is constantly looking for a person to date. Very eager to say, or do something. Desire, greed, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:18 PM
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I'm defining it by the way that it's used IRL ​ Top 8 Definitions of Thirsty / Thirst according to The Urban Dictionary: Too eager to get something (especially play) Desperate 3.An adjective used in describing a person deliberatley, fishing for attention, compliments, etc. When you are horny for some ass A form of lust of or want of members of the opposite sex. This term can refer to both males and females. Someone who is desperate. A thirsty person is constantly looking for a person to date. Ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:18 PM
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A good example that comes to mind is the women who seek out and send money to incarcerated men that they don't even know. Or you could google the "For the D(ick) challenge". It's comical, but it was mostly women rapping about what they do or have done out of thirst for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:05 PM
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I never thought I could feel so flattered by a reddit comment. Thanks Poppy. You're the real MVP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 04:00 PM
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Anything you feel like adding to the topic And female thirst isn't always moderate. Y'all can be extra thirsty too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:51 PM
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Depends on the day and the location. In my hometown, I would say it happens 1-3 times in the average day. When I go down south its much more frequent. Probably because southern women are much more upfront about everything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:48 PM
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I didnt say that women were "just as thirsty" as men, I said female thirst is just as prevalent as male thirst. It just manifests itself differently
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:46 PM
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In the context of men and women, thirst is often an outlet for attraction or desire. Thirst is only a facet of attraction I'm from the community that coined the term (to my knowledge) so I know what it means
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:44 PM
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Even for men, thirst is far from an eternal condition. Even if you get over it eventually, you were still being thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:19 PM
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Says who? It happens all day, every day
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:17 PM
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Because its true. Just because women aren't generally thirsty for ALL men, doesn't mean they're not extra thirsty for some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:16 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:14 PM
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Thirst doesn't just pertain to sex itself. If you're craving the attraction of somebody from the opposite sex, you're thirsty. Regardless of why you crave that attention
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:13 PM
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Yes... thirst. Like the recent "Chadfishing" incident showed, there's no shortage of women that don't give a fuck. Every woman's thirst shut-off valve is different depending on her own quirks and the guy she's thirsty for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:11 PM
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My last girlfriend could have modeled if she wanted. Not like a runway or Sports Illustrated model. But she could definitely be a video vixen or in magazines like KING or SMOOTH if she wanted. I would say she was a 9.5. Almost perfect to me, but a couple of personality quirks and an inability to seperate from our local FSM shaved off that extra half a point. We dated for roughly 8 years. I've slept with women who are low tier local models but the only time I dated one was the LTR I mentioned abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:07 PM
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Between male and female thirst. Just because the triggers may be different doesn't negate the fact that it's still being thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 02:36 PM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 02:30 PM
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Anything around the topic of female thirst. I left it open ended for a reason. Its a pretty common occurrence for it to never be discussed on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 02:22 PM
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Tax season and the Winter time are cuffing season in low income communities
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 09:06 AM
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The jump in lady teacher sexual predators, from your numbers to mine went from 4% (if your numbers are to believed) to 33% (if my numbers are to be believed). If a jump from 4% to ONE-THIRD in ten years isn't a big enough spike for you, I don't know what to tell you. On a related note, my numbers don't come from "opinion". They are a mixture of the US Department of Educations numbers and updated numbers from a research firm thats ran by the former Chief of Staff at the DOE.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 12:08 AM
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There's a bit of historical data in it. Pulled directly from the article: "Unfortunately, these kinds of stories are becoming more common across the country. In 2014 alone, there were 781 reported cases of teachers and other school employees accused or convicted of sexual relationships with students. My firm, Drive West Communications, has been tracking news reports of sexual misconduct by educators for more than a year. Every week has brought news of 15 young people, on average, who were sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 11:52 PM
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Is the former Chief of Staff at the US Department of Education a better source? That's where most the info in the article came from. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/20/more-teachers-are-having-sex-with-their-students-heres-how-schools-can-stop-them/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 11:38 PM
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That article is 13 years old and it's based on statistics from 15 years ago. The only Smartphones back then were Blackberrys and Palm TREOs. The former Chief of Staff at the US Department of Education agrees with the basis of my post. The proportion of female teacher sex offenders has spiked dramatically in recent years. Nowhere did I say that men never sleep with students. I'm asking why women are starting to catch up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/20/more-teachers-ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 11:34 PM
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just like the gender reversed scenario lol. The gender reversed scenario of this situation is viewed as one of the most predatory things a man can do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 08:06 PM
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MGTOW and Feminists aren't equivalents. MRA's would be the closest male equivalent to feminists. Most men are inherently simps that have to unlearn simpish behavior. One of the biggest simp behaviors is seeking validation from women. Being a "male feminist" is a great way to virtue signal your allegiance to women, often in ill fated attempts at getting laid. Modern society is setup where women hold most the social power. Most people in a position of power aren't willing to give up that power, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:54 PM
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Then she's just bisexual with a preference for women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:25 PM
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I thinks it's odd to create another term for a word that already exists. If you're a woman that exclusively dates other women, than you're just a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 02:21 PM
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Somewhere between 6-10 depending on who's rating me. Thats basically what photofeeler taught me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 10:05 AM
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I would say he was a pretty good looking guy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:11 AM
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Yeah its not a mom and pop shop but its still much smaller than the Amazons and Apples of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:10 AM
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Still better than being Chad to no women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:29 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:28 PM
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Thanks man, I appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:28 PM
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I think this thread has officially proved your point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:27 PM
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Apple is indeed a valuable company on the stock market. But for me and people like me, that own ZERO Apple products, they are worthless. If Apple disappeared today, I wouldn't notice nor care. But a smaller, more niche company like Groupon is indispensable to me. I love Groupon and would hate to see it go There's a market for everybody
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:25 PM
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Nothing women say will matter in this regard. Only their behavior matters This is how I know women have diverse tastes. I have a few short friends that are successful with women. None of them rich, some of them are kinda chubby, some are even kind of ugly There's women out there for everybody
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:11 PM
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They'll usually make themselves available to you. They'll put themselves around you, contact you for no eason, give you general IOIs, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:08 PM
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This experiment was women picking out men to date from a lineup with no actual conversation. Women as a rule, respond well to men that know how to converse Is being short a major disadvantage in dating? Of course. But it's not insurmountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:05 PM
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Spread the word!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:59 PM
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I'm a dude. There's no betas bucking me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:58 PM
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Fuckkk he definitely would've worked too. Denzel just came to mind first
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:57 PM
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So we're just ignoring Robert Downey Jr, Mark Ruffalo and Tom Holland?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:56 PM
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But they had women before the fame and money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:42 PM
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Kevin Hart and Tom Cruise were both dating hot women before having multi-million dollar Hollywood fame I could list short people from my personal life that are successful with women, but they'd be irrelevant to everybody on PPS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:39 PM
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115 upvotes thank you very much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:33 PM
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Not at all. He was far from rich
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:24 PM
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They do make great examples. They all look completely different but each one of them is a 10/10 for different people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 05:03 AM
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I agree with you on that. I'm a big big believer that everybody has their own pheromonal scent. If you've been around somebody long enough, you can definitely pick up their scent if they're nearby, even if they don't wear cologne or perfume. It's weird, but I'm also pretty good at smelling when a girl is on her period
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 05:01 AM
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The Chadichlorions are strong in you young Padawan
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:57 AM
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I like Brunettes and Redheads myself. Thankfully that's most my demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:53 AM
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Starbucks drinkers is just shorthand for a certain type of person. Of course not everybody that drinks Starbucks is the same person but there's a reason they're often stereotyped
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:52 AM
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Chad is a specific fraternity archetype attractive to sorority girls and most normie girls. The point is that he is at the top of that hierarchy . I agree but every niche / culture has their own Chads. I know a lot of women that aren't into the All-American frat boy look And I would like to see that post you made
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:49 AM
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Lets exchange pics of hot women to see if our 10s match up. I think hotness can be really subjective across cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:45 AM
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Did you just watch The Avengers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:43 AM
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Yepp thats just how it goes unfortunately. Just like people born broke have to really grind to make it to the top, the less hot have to do more to be successful in dating. We don't get to pick the hand we were dealt, but we damn sure get to pick how we play it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:42 AM
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You're a perfect example of what Im talking about. 2 people that are hot enough for each other and perfectly happy with it. As long as you guys are happy, that's all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:14 AM
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Soooo, you just want them to smell like they've showered in the last 2 days then
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:12 AM
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Don't forget Chadonte, Chadavius and Chadavion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:11 AM
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No but there probably is a few women out there that think Danny Devito is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:55 AM
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I just used them as examples because they're famous and most people would know who they are. Im sure you know some short guys that don't have trouble getting laid IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:43 AM
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No, thank you. You did a great job of paraphrasing what I was saying
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:38 AM
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Yepp, it's a lot of black pills here that still need to learn this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:37 AM
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I think everybody wants somebody that doesn't smell like ass. Nothing shallow about that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:36 AM
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First off, I actually upvoted you. ​ Secondly, nowhere did I say that all beautiful women and rich kids are awful people. ​ Finally, if bad behavior in rich kids and hot women wasn't a commonly observed phenomenon, then terms like Affluenza and Pretty Girl / Beautiful Woman Syndrome wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:21 AM
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Height definitely matters but thankfully its not the only factor in the equation. If height was the only thing that mattered, Tom Cruise and Kevin Hart would be incels
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:30 PM
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They can't say i didn't try at least
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:27 PM
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No man can have any woman he wants. Most women, but never all. And attractive women tend to have terrible personalities for the same reason that rich kids tend to be awful people. They're both usually spoiled and entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:26 PM
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Oh hell no Shit tripped me out too Also you do know there’s a significant section of PPD who uses “Chad” as code for white guy? Yeah I think Chad either means "attractive guy" or "attractive white guy" depending on the context. Black Chads are called Tyrones and I think they have words for Indian and asian dudes too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:23 PM
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Come to the US. We're a dime a dozen over here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:57 PM
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I used to work with a Russian guy that was like 5'3" but he still had hoes because he was fuckin ripped, funny as shit and had an awesome personality. Even short dudes can win if they go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:55 PM
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I understand the sarcasm but I think a lot of young men need to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:52 PM
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His grandma was the real MVP
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:49 PM
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If only unattractive women think you're Chad, then you need to work on yourself or get more realistic about your expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:48 PM
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Keanu Reeves really is that dude. Did you see the deep fakes of him stopping a robbery?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:45 PM
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So you want a gangster with a heart of gold? I didn't peg you as the trap queen type
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:42 PM
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Denzel Washington. Stoic, funny, composed and driven. It's no wonder he used to have such a large female following and why he's been married to the same woman for 30+ years despite being an A-List actor in Hollywood. I don't think there's anything bad anyone can say about the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:39 PM
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Ridiculous double standards don't even surprise me anymore
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 12:59 AM
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I'm sure Dollar Shave Club is making a killing after all of this shenanigans
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 12:53 AM
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Yeah I agree that the acceptability of male emoting plays a large part in things. But I also think that the hormonal makeup of men and women is a key factor in our emotional reactions and their intensity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 11:58 PM
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Hell nahh, thats why winter in Cleveland is cuffing season. Lol nobody wants to go out in that shit Where are you from where people intentionally go outside in the winter?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 11:18 PM
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Women as a group are both more emotional and sensitive. But when a guy is emotional, they tend to be really emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 08:37 PM
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Introspective Black Men of Reform
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 08:30 PM
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Wow I don't think I've ever heard anyone from outside of Cleveland call it The Slab And the dating scene isn't terrible here I guess. Clevelandites are neurotic and mildly unfriendly but we're still not as bad as places like LA, NYC and DC
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 08:29 PM
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If we lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 03:12 AM
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Surprisingly it looks like I only pissed off dudes spewing out the absolute worse sides of traditionalism and feminism combined How so? I dont think I took or agreed with any feminist stances. I can see the traditionalist parts tho
/r/MensRights10/08/19 02:30 AM
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There was a TLDR at the bottom of the post
/r/MGTOW210/08/19 02:26 AM
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The manosphere is far from a monolith. PUA's / MGTOWs / MRAs and IBMORs all have totally different views of what masculinity looks like. Even within those groups there is no conformity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 02:18 AM
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Nothing I've said comes remotely close to "antimen rhetoric". In fact, most of the OP could be pulled straight from the reddest parts of the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 12:12 AM
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Something must've hit close to home for you. You're really taking this personally
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:56 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:53 PM
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How so? Societal problems aren't solved by individuals, they're solved by collectives "Damn this problem I'm having only exists because of feminism!" If I thought that way, I'd be blaming someone else for my problems rather than accepting responsibility for them... Feminism isn't the topic at hand. The topic at hand is men not being able to come together to handle problems we face as a group. This is just fear-mongering IMO. Even if it does become a problem, it doesn't change my solution: determ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:53 PM
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Pointing out valid details about the current state of men is far from shaming or sowing discord If it's true, it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:40 PM
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Alright. Now I'm triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:38 PM
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I've read this 5 times and I still can't figure out what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:37 PM
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I see this now. I think my post brought them all out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:35 PM
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I think I'm picking up a whiff of butthurt too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:33 PM
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The metaphoric Gender War
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:32 PM
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Using your logic, what makes women so much more valuable to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:31 PM
1

Why are you so offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:29 PM
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Yeah I don't think rural areas have it as severely as big cities. And the blatant xenophobia of TRP community is why I stay as far away as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:28 PM
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I'm from Cleveland
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:26 PM
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Yeah this is a big thing in my city too. There's no problem with being gay, transgender or whatever other sexuality but this does seem to be a growing trend. I think some of it is that gay and bi men were repressed for so long that we're just now seeing how many there are. And i think some of it is the cultural message that masculinity is toxic, which may be making some young men go in the complete opposite direction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:13 PM
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I guess I put too much faith in my fellow man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:07 PM
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No I didn't. Somebody else must have thought your comment was as dumb as I did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:05 PM
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That "minority" of men you're talking about is the only reason you can be on Reddit in the first place. Try getting online without a PC or Mac. Or driving to the store without stoplights or a car
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:40 PM
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I don't think you're understanding the topic at hand here. Nowhere do I state that men shouldn't be improving themselves. My issue is with the mentality you're showing. By thinking the systemic struggles of other men dont apply to you, you're actively becoming apart of the problem. Why do you think feminism has become so powerful and prevalent? Because women collectively decided that other women's issues are also their own. Having that "It's not my problem" attitude only works until it is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:38 PM
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By making a vaguely racist statement that makes it sound like you can't fight? Good job bro. My feelings have never been so hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:31 PM
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I didnt think dudes would get so triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:30 PM
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Nope, I'm 26
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:29 PM
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Nowhere in the OP did I dismiss or measure dicks with feminine men. I listed them as an example of why men as a group lack cohesiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:29 PM
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I haven't listened to nor read 100% of Jordan Petersons work. But from what I have seen, he's in 100% agreeance of what I've said in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:27 PM
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You literally just asked to fight though? Don't back down now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:23 PM
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26
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:22 PM
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In this context, women would be the mammoth. But different dudes are hunting different mammoths. The guys dealing with false rape cases and the guys who can't get laid are trying to solve 2 different problems
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:22 PM
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Are you 12 bruh? Your stuck on this whole boomer thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:11 PM
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Feel free to try. I'm always down for a good fight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:09 PM
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So was Donald Trump becoming president. Stranger shit happens every day
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:15 PM
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For one, it's just easier. If they know from the beginning what they're signing up for, they try harder and expect less. Lower risk, higher reward
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:09 PM
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Why wouldn't they? I'm very upfront about my intentions, so its not like I moved the goalposts on them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:06 PM
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Cada loco con su tema
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:01 PM
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Yes but I'm only at 2 currently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:00 PM
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I don't think I'm better than anybody based on their religious decisions. People can believe in whatever deity they please, flying spaghetti monster included. I'm still waiting for you to name one person that lives a completely halal lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 11:58 AM
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Name one entirely devout Muslim that doesn't do any thing haram. I'll wait
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 11:40 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 11:26 AM
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Damn straight. There's no such thing as a perfect Muslim, just like there's no perfect Christians, Buddhists or any other religion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 11:25 AM
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You are just dating more than one woman. If they know about each other and they approve of it, then thats the definition of polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 11:23 AM
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Yepp, I also smoke, drink and break fast before sundown during Ramadan. Terrible I know. Not sure what country you're from, but in America almost no Muslims strictly follow the Quran. It's extremely impractical while living in a Western culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 09:24 AM
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Are you trying to convince me or yourself? ​ Feel free to practice whatever form of relationship you prefer, but don't make the mistake of assuming you speak for all women on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 09:21 AM
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A couple of times. Most my LTR history has been monogamous but after getting out of an exclusive 10~ year relationship last year, I'm back to poly dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 09:16 AM
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Some notable OPEN polygamists include: Julie Gayet (Award winning french actress and producer, partner of former french president Francois Hollande) ​ Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma (Lifetime politician, 4 Medical degrees, Currently the Minister of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs in South Africa) ​ Inkhosikati LaMbikiza (Law school graduate, One of the Queens of Swaziland) ​ And any woman that has dated/ carried on an affair with a man that she KNEW was taken. ​ This list doesn't include …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 09:10 AM
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Cmon bro. Polyamory (from Greek πολύ poly, "many, several", and Latin amor, "love") is the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships with more than one partner, with the consent of all partners involved. ​ Swinging / Polygamy / Open relationships are all considered polyamorous but not every open relationship is polygamous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:45 AM
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Yeah it can be, but that's just a side effect of polygamy not it's main purpose. For me the main benefits of polygamy are the spread out shared household and child rearing responsibilities and the plus of keeping women on their toes. If you don't want many kids or you're not a family person, then polygamy doesn't make much sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:10 AM
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I could see how that could be necessary if you had 10+ wives and like a 100 concubines. But 4 women is easy enough to manage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:04 AM
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Dread is a natural occurrence in most relationships. Especially if you're with a high value partner. Polygamy just produces a bit more of it. Women always have been and always will be attracted to charisma. Its no wonder why many people who posess cult leader levels of it are polygamists. From a couple of the Popes all the way to Charles Manson Why would anyone want to be with somebody that made them feel worthless? That sounds like a recipe to get poisoned. My thing is making women feel loved, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:54 AM
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You do realize that for most of humanities history, monogamy was not the norm and homosexuality was the most sinful thing imaginable right? But both are common in 2019. Culture is constantly shifting. And ask any man that is successful with women and we will tell you, having multiple women that know about each other is nowhere near as uncommon as women like to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:48 AM
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Islam, like Christianity has a million sects and every practicioner has their own opinions on different sects. But the Quran itself allows for Polygamy. Mohammed (PBUH) himself practiced it. It's not fair that 75% of men will be left by the wayside but that's just life. If i dont add a woman to my harem, its not like she will magically start fucking with guys in the larger percentile. She'll just end up with another guy on a similar level to me anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:30 AM
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Hypergamy is a a nearly unstoppable force in the modern world. My point is that if you have the will, ability and resources to maintain a harem, you might as well go for it Enjoy the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:22 AM
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Its not fantasy if it happens everyday. Just because you dont believe in something doesn't negate its existence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:20 AM
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Why would it be about ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:16 AM
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Swinging / Open Relationships and Polygamy are all under the umbrella of Polyamory. The only difference is exclusivity. If swingers hide their relationships why do you think there aren't non-trash women in polygamous relationships that aren't equally as discreet? Both are still considered taboo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:15 AM
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There have been quite a few high value and/or high powered women who are in polygamous relationships throughout the years. It would be much more common if there wasn't such a stigma attached to it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:08 AM
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It depends on what the end goal is. If you want to just have sex with an endless supply of women, feel free to spin plates for eternity. ​ If you plan on having a large family than polygamy is a much better option
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:01 AM
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What's an FTE?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 04:58 AM
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Are you gonna run 4 different households? Why not? Men have made it work throughout history And polygamy isn't about getting your dick wet, if that was the case you could just spin plates forever
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:57 AM
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Lol thats understandable. But assuming everybody came into the relationship clean and the man doesn't cheat on his wives, STDs should not be a problem And if they are, you'd have to blame one of your sister wives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:54 AM
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Quality women is subjective. There are driven and intelligent women that are doctors, lawyers and politicians in open relationships or swinging. Which is arguably just a messier non exclusive version of polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:51 AM
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In Islam a man is permitted up to 4 wives assuming he has the resources to provide them and their children
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:47 AM
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I didn't say there was (except FDLS). I'm saying that polygamy is more offensive to a western woman's sensibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:24 AM
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In a traditional western sense yes it would
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:22 AM
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A guy named bonerdude420 calling something juvenile sounds like the pot calling the kettle black
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:17 AM
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Its not much worse tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:13 AM
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Yepp, another reason to keep it at 4. Each wife is also supposed to have her own house
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:12 AM
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You're also not even supposed to have premarital relationships period so thats somewhat irrelevant. This post is about LTRs with multiple women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 03:11 AM
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Islam
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 02:50 AM
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Smoking crack definitley make addicts devalue food. Why do you think crackheads are so skinny? They place so much value on crack that food is no longer a top priority. I've seen many a crackhead choose the rock over actual food [Source: I grew up in the middle of the crack wave in a crack infested community]
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:50 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:15 PM
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Only because society has largely okayed that line of thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:14 PM
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What is the trade off for thirsty dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:12 PM
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It's a know fact that men's sex drive is stronger and less complicated than women’s. https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare There's no shortage of women that will date a man for the benefits he provides outside of sex. The same cannot be said for men. My foundation is solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:11 PM
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Feminizing society is acceptable until it passes the point of balance An overly feminine society is equally as toxic as an overly masculine one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:05 PM
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Fair enough. But almost everything we do in life is for someone else in one way or another. Humans are inherently social creatures and most will do anything to stay apart of the group. That's the only way most people could survive historically
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:57 PM
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If you can admit that no men will date a woman with no sex involved then my premise holds true. Women are heavily valued (by men) for their sexual value
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:55 PM
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I agree 100% Thirsty dudes fuck it up for everybody
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:48 PM
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Neither is fake designer. This doesn't stop people from buying either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:46 PM
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Just search #fitness #fit or #fitnessmodel on IG Some of these people are just showing off there progress but most are just flaunting their looks for attention (Likes + Follows)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:45 PM
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If women placed no value on their sexuality, then why are boob jobs, Brazilian butt lifts, and labiaplasty a thing for those that can afford it? (And some that can't)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:39 PM
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How do you find the time to write these long ass responses? And for the second time, Im a dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:36 PM
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Valuing yourself is a beautiful thing that everyone should do. Women's individual value also has more complex factors than just her sexuality But regardless of how you see yourself individually, the market ultimately decides your value. How many men do you think will marry a woman they know for a fact wont give them sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:35 PM
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Women dehumanize themselves all the time. Regardless of they view themselves individually, how the SMP/RMP sees them is all that matters. I could arbitrarily view myself as a billionaire. That does not make it true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:30 PM
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How many men will seriously date or marry a girl who doesn't give them sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:24 PM
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You're taking the statement too literally. If you take a girl out for coffee, to see a movie, or bought her drinks at the club, you've "wined and dined" her. Shit if a girl smokes some of my weed before we go at it, I consider that wining and dining Bluntberries are a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:22 PM
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I don't know any man rich or poor that doesn't acknowledge this. Even if all you did was wine and dine her to get laid than you still paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:12 PM
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How does an article from Forbes reflect my personal IG?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:08 PM
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And? I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:06 PM
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Please rephrase this comment. I'm really trying to understand what you are saying here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:57 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:35 PM
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You see it everyday irl, its just not spelled out clearly like it is online. As far as relationships are concerned, a healthy relationship should contain more than just sex but no relationship will stay healthy if neither partner provides any sexual value
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:33 PM
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Then why does human trafficking, strippers, pornography, cam girling and Playboy exists? Just because you don't place value on it, doesn't mean it has none
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:12 PM
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Some people choose to be blind. If female sexuality wasn't a commodity, there wouldn't be women being trafficked across the globe. It's terrible but it's true. Even if I personally don't see any value in gold, that doesn't negate its value as a commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:05 PM
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Outside of actual íntimacy which does require SMV, everything you listed is for sale
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:01 PM
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The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:00 PM
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Every man pays for sex in one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 01:59 PM
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He's drawing conclusions that aren't there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:20 AM
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Huh? Pornography and camming are considered sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:19 AM
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Sighs Sex and female sexuality is abundant for high value men but is dirt cheap for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:16 AM
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Then why reply? There's a reason why prostitution is commonly considered the world's oldest profession and why it has existed in every society from modernity thru antiquity. The truth hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:11 AM
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Science does not agree with your observation. "Overall mental health problems were fairly high, with 50 percent of sex workers reporting at least one psychiatric disorder over the last 12 months; by comparison, this is true of 22 percent of the general population of adult U.S. women." https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/strictly-casual/201410/do-sex-workers-have-more-mental-health-problems https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/top-googled-porn-star-exits-industry-reveals-shocking-truth-about-lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:00 AM
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We might have just discovered the next big niche kink. My terrible singing and your off key piano skills might just make us rich
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:42 AM
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Your argument makes no sense. The study that the article is based on clearly states in the abstract : "By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well- being, and is pervasive across demographic …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:35 AM
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I'm feeling extra thirsty now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:34 AM
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"Stevenson and Wolfers discovered that American women rated their overall life satisfaction higher than men in the 1970s. Thereafter, women’s happiness scores decreased while men’s scores stayed roughly stable. By the 1990s, women were less happy than men. This relative unhappiness softened after the turn of the century, but men continue to enjoy a higher sense of subjective wellbeing that is at least as high — if not higher — than women’s." Nowhere does it specify that modern single women are h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:33 AM
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Very
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:26 AM
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Then why are modern women objectively more unhappy despite having more financial freedom and independence with less responsibilities than any other women in history? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap Men are actually equally as happy as the past generations. Women, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:24 AM
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You're making some pretty big reaches here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:15 AM
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It's prolific https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2018/09/28/despite-no-nudity-rule-instagram-is-chock-full-of-pornography/#7815bda93e26
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:14 AM
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It doesn't have to be most chicks, its the chicks getting the most attention that lower (or raise depending on how you look at it) the bar for the rest of y'all And since it's common knowledge that basically all women want commitment and/or attention from a smaller group of men, this situation eventually harms women when they find themselves being just plates and ONSs to the men they actually want. I can almost guarantee there will be a spinster epidemic in 20-30 years. Tinder is already full of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:09 AM
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You got it right. I'm talking about those women and the women who emulate them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:00 AM
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This conclusion takes mental depth to reach. Most people will likely not think about the situation on that level. More likely is for more young women to look at that incident and be inspired to replicate Belles formula
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:53 AM
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Says who? The only dudes marrying prostitutes are pimps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:49 AM
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First off I'm not trying to convince women to have sex with anybody, the abundance of sex is what's lowering women's value in the first place. Secondly, you and I both know that beach photos are the most innocent photos on many girls IGs. We both know that's not the type of stuff I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:48 AM
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Water is wet indeed. I hope and pray that men stop the simping that props this system up. But stuff like the Belle Delphine situation constantly reminds me that its not likely to happen any time soon. Male thirst is strong out here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:42 AM
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I agree with this for the most part. Except for the fact that women (especially young women) over-sexualize themselves for free all the time. Most of the time, the only currencies they get paid in is attention and validation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 04:19 AM
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Yeah I don't doubt it but I think its kinda rare for most Muslims living in America. My ex was Palestinian, parents fob and there's not much we didn't do. Its pretty common in my area for Lebanese, Jordanian and Palestinian girls to fuck around before getting engaged and then become devout hijabis after they get married lol There's also a lot of girls that will do everything except PIV sex before marriage because... Reasons Not sure about Desis. Almost all the ones in my city are Hindi or Buddhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:52 PM
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Lol I dont think I know any Muslim guy that actually waits for marriage, and most the girls don't either. But I do think a sexually experienced guy and an inexperienced girl make a better combination than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:30 PM
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Thats kinda how we got together in the first place... I was being a manho until I found her in HS and we stayed together for most of 10 years In my situation though she came from the conservative family and mine was liberal. They tried to marry her off at least 6 times I can remember while we were together But what do your mean by traditional? Like waiting for your parents to find you a wife traditional?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:18 PM
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Yeah man, you right. It's still aggravating tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:11 PM
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I knowww. I didn't even get to reply to you 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:10 PM
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Damn was there another mass shooting in Ohio? I heard about the one yesterday in Texas but this is news to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:09 PM
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I think marriage is the most complicated part of Islam if you live in the west, I've been through similar situations to all 4 of those posts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:08 PM
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The mods locking my last post triggered me. Any mods here to explain this garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 04:15 AM
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Exactly. Why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:28 AM
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Yepp, men will have our own post soon. I touched a little bit on that in the last one. The name of this thread isnt Rich White Woman Debate. The issues and topics we discuss here apply to rich, poor, black and white in virtually any country. If someone comes here to learn something, they're in for a rude awakening when they find out that most the opinions here come from a microscopically small demographic and anything you do learn will probably be moot outside of that group. It almost defeats th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:25 AM
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Blue pill is virtually synonymous with feminism and feminists beliefs. Since feminism is almost everwhere at this point and their beliefs are seen in every socioeconomic class, you'd figure there would be a more diverse group of debaters on the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:14 AM
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Yes you are an outlier here just like me. And we need more people here like you and I to have more accurate discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:10 AM
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RP/BP is apart of every culture where feminism has taken root. There's a shit ton of Red Pill guys in India and I've seen quite a few RP commentators from or in non western countries. Keep in mind that the pills are just labels for sexual strategies and beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:08 AM
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Nobody claimed we do. I don't understand the point of your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:04 AM
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Who cares about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:02 AM
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And you been coming thru with the facts like always You're like my asian spirit animal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 12:51 AM
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I appreciate the honesty. I can see how that mentality can be used as a way to shield one's ego
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:25 PM
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Good point. But men are needed to protect the tribe / family in the first place so I firmly believe that the value of men and women are equal. We just serve different functions in our tribes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:22 PM
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PNG 4 President
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:19 PM
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Why do you think the girls here are acting like they've never heard a girl say any of this before?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:17 PM
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Thank youu! Finally some honesty. Lol but your examples sound more like cutesy crushing than the spiteful humblebrag, semi-threats I'm talking about Why do you think the girls here are acting like they've never heard any of this before?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:15 PM
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Yepp she's one of the few female posters that doesn't come off like she really hates men. Inexperienced or not, she sounds like an awesome person
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:09 PM
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Because young and old men want women in their prime. From a biological standpoint, women are nowhere near as fertile in their 30s and their looks are starting to decline around that age. Mixed in with some male revenge fantasy of course
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:19 PM
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Why do you think women are more valuable to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:11 PM
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If men have no value than what is women's?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:03 PM
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In short, we all need to learn from op and piss women off more. Good way to dread and mog your way into that angry makeup sex Don't be like me. Its a curse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:02 PM
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Nope those are just examples I found in 30 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:00 PM
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I must be blind
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:09 PM
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Nope just a (relatively) regular guy and I hear it all the time. IRL and in the media https://youtu.be/wiotKZFYpvo https://youtu.be/T7HmWNR34tw https://youtu.be/w618p_ii03M https://youtu.be/rnxISw4wdIE https://youtu.be/w2tiKZVI-ss
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:04 PM
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As a cat lover, I can confirm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 08:53 PM
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I only have 3 sisters and while I've never heard them personally say this, I have heard their friends tell them this or similar platitudes plenty of times
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 08:51 PM
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I honestly wouldn't care. In one ear and out the other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 07:24 PM
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Nope not at all. Education and a high powered career doesn't mean much in a woman. I know women with masters degrees that are still retarded and women making 6 figures that are just all around terrible people. Her personal values and practical real world knowledge are much more important to me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 07:22 PM
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Work and school usually have a dress code so it's a little different in those situations. But most men splurging on designer suits and apparel for work/school are doing it to signal status, and women love status
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:52 AM
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All personality disorders fall under the category of "mental illnesses". I'm not attacking people with PD's, Im just using the medical definition
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:45 AM
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Actually most of what guys do is for women in one way or another. Male Priorities from most to least important: 1.Do what gets me laid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:41 AM
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How do men factor into this? Most female beauty maintenance is 1000% over and above what men require to be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:38 AM
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Dont project female standards onto men. Most guys that have actually been with women really do appreciate your natural beauty. I don't think cavemen were forcing their cavewives to smear berries on their face just so they could get off Its women that are pushing the needle toward all women looking like Capitol citizens from the Hunger Game
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:36 AM
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There IS an argument to be made that the top level powers-that-be who decide balayage is "in" skew male Can you really make this argument in 2019? Most young women are styling themselves after other women on social media, that often own + operate their own beauty brands (Kylie Jenner, Rihanna, etc) There's ALSO an argument to be made that guys become used to whatever look is "in" and become enforcers for it--even guys here have said that they follow so many fitness models that normal girls look …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:30 AM
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Damn I shouldve used that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:21 AM
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But why put so much unnecessary pressure on yourselves? If the basic upkeep is enough (showering, moisturizing, etc) for the man in your life, why go so far and spend so much money to impress women that dont really care about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:20 AM
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First off, happy cake day to us! And yes men appreciate that women keep themselves together, but 99% of the work y'all put in to look beautiful is not for men. So many beautiful women feel "ugly" when they don't have on a face full of makeup and the obsession with unnecessary and unnatural beauty is destroying women's self esteem as a whole. Why do that to yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:16 AM
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The most beautiful glow women have is really their bareface. Imperfections and all, real men love who they wake up to in the morning, not the face that gets left behind on the sheets
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:10 AM
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But top tier men can have diverse tastes. Look at the wives of many millionaires and billionaires. Most men prefer ro marry the (relatively) average girls they were with before the fame and fortune. Most the Plastic Paulas aren't getting a ring from them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:08 AM
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Male tastes in BEAUTY are legitimately “woke” and DIVERSE compared the parade of 15 year old latvian human dolls that dyspeptic ghouls like Anna Wintour would gladly shove into Vogue until eternity. I agree. Outside of a small portion of men, most guys can appreciate female beauty in plenty of different forms
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:04 AM
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How was this too circle jerky?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:01 AM
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I saw that guy on Graham Stephans channel
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 01:08 AM
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Lol he does seem like a guy that cries... a lot And I gotta check out Sabrinas music, idk how I've never heard of her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:25 PM
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He wasnt too young for Jada Pinkett 😂 And I had too google who Sabrina Claudio was. Shes kinda thickk tho, reminds me of Dua Lipa but not as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:17 PM
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Damnn thats cold. You must be an August Alsina fangirl
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:09 PM
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Uhhh huh, you know what all that attitude does to me.. ​ But I'm still hurt you can be so nonchalant about our child. All he wanted was a relationship wit his mama
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:52 PM
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You dont wanna be that kind of crazy. Most guys like the overly emotional and pouty type of crazy over the "she might actually cut me" crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:41 PM
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Better safe than sorry. He just might be that one asshole who gets fired and actually does it. Thats life in 2019 for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:37 PM
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Yeah everybody has a quirk or 2. But deal with enough people and you'll realize many people are painfully generic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:16 PM
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Lol I would love to see that. I've always imagined what people look like behind the screen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:13 PM
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You know I love it when you act crazy. You gonna burn the rest of my clothes? That's how we conceived Hottentot Jr 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:10 PM
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Still not getting it. I'm saying that more productive conversations come from a having a diverse mix of opinions, including mainstream ones If there was a think tank made of up entirely of black people who grew up UMC/UC and their only job was to discuss issues around blackness, 90% of their conclusions wouldn't be applicable to 90% of black people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:06 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying I'm not saying there should be less of the types that are already here. I'm saying that fringe and "outdated" opinions are over represented in PPD. A fringe bubble isn't much more informative than a solely mainstream one And are my dashikis folded yet? You know I like them nice and creased
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 08:53 PM
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Your username is so innocent but this one comment somehow made my entire sexual history seem extra vanilla
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 08:45 PM
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Yeah the average person isn't super intellectual but Basic Becky / Brad and Trailer Trash Trish / Tom makeup like 75% of the population In discussions about general topics as universal as sex and attraction, not having enough mainstream opinions almost defeats the purpose of discussion even when we're discussing relevant topics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 08:42 PM
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NPC = Non Player Character Basically the people with a total lack of self awareness / self direction or somebody that seems incapable of independent thought https://youtu.be/_Lki2FlXX64
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 08:10 PM
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So I'm one of the most important, magical, and epic characters in PPD? I've gotten a lot of compliments in my day, but this one is truly heartwarming. Thank you man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 08:03 PM
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Damn bebecita you just described me and I'm an INTP. Sometimes I wish I could turn it off Thats a good point though. INTJs and INTPs are supposed to be pretty rare but there's a shit ton of both in PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:56 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of kinky people out there, especially among those abnormally happy couples I've indulged for both M and past LTRs would probably make PPD clutch their communal pearls The first thing that came to mind was a "pearl necklace". Not sure about other guys, but I love giving them out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:52 PM
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Yepp, the more neurotic the better. I don't know why we love crazy women so much
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:48 PM
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I'm not gatekeeping anything. I just call it how I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:46 PM
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Yepp and most the women here openly dislike social media and admit to not using it much. Compared to most the people our age that use social media religiously
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:43 PM
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Its certainly a problem on all sides
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:37 PM
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Yes very. The majority of people are Basic Bros / Bitches™ or NPCs. With PPD drawing most of its audience from a more philosophic crowd, most of the mainstreams opinion on things is lost in the process
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:34 PM
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Debate that has no chance of swaying either sides opinion is totally useless outside of an academic environment. I recently made a thread asking if PPD had ever changed anyones opinion on a topic. The majority of responses said no, or it pushed them further into their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:30 PM
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Yepp PPD women by far do not represent the average woman in IRL. Especially the average woman in her 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:16 PM
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Not the most experienced lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:14 PM
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I can't argue with that. But in reality PPD isn't just about debating the pills (sexual strategies). Its a place to discuss gender issues, relationships and general topics around sex and sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:14 PM
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This was a great way to put it. How many people do you think actually share this interest? If I had to guess, I'd say its probably less than 25% of the general population. Most people seem completely content without ever asking the question of "Why?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:09 PM
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Not at all. But it might affect your ability to understand where another side is coming from. My point is that PPD seems to attract more people from the extremes and not from the center
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:42 PM
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I'm not saying everybody is out here having a lifetime worth of missionary sex. I'm saying that the amount of swingers, BDSM practicioners, cucks, and orgy havers is a much smaller portion of the population than it is on PPD. And yes the world is a weird place. But PPD is a particularly weird place
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:32 PM
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I think its mostly Gen Xers. I don't think ive ran into a boomer here yet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:23 PM
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Its way more creative than the usual 😍😍😍 or Hey ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:12 PM
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I thought so too. Im a sucker for girls doing cutesy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:11 PM
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It still made me chuckle a little
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 04:48 AM
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I was looking thru some of my old Tinder messages and I found this gem. http://imgur.com/gallery/ApK87hz Still deciding if her pickup line was smooth or corny
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 01:42 AM
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A worldly woman is great. The stereotypical dog mom that loves The Office and traveling is like 75% of the women on Tinder. Nobody likes a walking cliche
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 01:23 AM
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Behind every strong Nidoking is a strong Nidoqueen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:54 PM
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Why didn't America make the list? Blue pill exists everywhere there is media, however we are comparatively more red pill than other countries It'll probably be a major culture shock coming from a majority red country, to blue ones like the ones you listed. Are you planning on marrying a western woman or do you already have a wife? If you're already married, do you think that western society will "corrupt" your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 03:18 AM
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I don't blame you man, best of luck on your mission. Where do you plan on moving to? And are blue pill beliefs common in Brazil?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 02:58 AM
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Forming a relationship is different from maintaining a relationship. 99% of the advice from mass media won't work for 99% of relationships. RPW is a compilation of what works for maintaining relationships with men, much like TRP compiles what works for attracting women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 02:55 AM
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TRP as a community is just a reaction to the dominant new age (blue pill) beliefs that are held by most people in western society. I agree its a little too loosely put together to be called a specific philosophy but most women hold blue pill beliefs even if they're not aware of the pillosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 02:49 AM
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Are you talking about the blue pill or the red pill? What you wrote could be applied to both
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:46 AM
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Do you ever consider moving? You seem like a pretty hard working guy, you might as well get rewarded better for it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:42 AM
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r/AskWomen isn't even a radical feminist sub. Western culture is just dominated by feminist beliefs so it comes off that way. Being a traditional woman has become counterculture and requires their own spaces so they're not constantly ridiculed for living how they want to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:56 AM
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There seems to be studies that support both BP and RP beliefs, just like there are some studies that support drinking coffee as being beneficial to one's health and others that say the opposite. That being said, I would say TRP is generally objectively more truthful about the basics of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:36 AM
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Yeah taking a poll does sound like a great idea
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:30 AM
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A couple of Brits here on PPD and in this thread have stated that the US does have some notable differences. I've never been to the UK so I can't personally say But for America, my theory on class and dating strategy does seem to apply more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:25 AM
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Did you switch to TRP or have you always practiced it? "The UMC/UC version of red is a Refined Red Pill (ReRP) that is based more on traditional values than actual survival, so its also very different from the lower classes version and the internets. Another part of traditional UMC/UC upbringing is being purposefully inoffensive and at least giving the illusion of being inclusive and accepting of other cultures or at least parts of it. So the UMC/ UC will often exhibit behaviors that differ from…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:21 AM
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I did specifically state that the OP was America centric
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:11 AM
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What type of community did you grow up in? IME status was pretty important in HS, but the status equation was watered down, focused more around attractiveness and nowhere near as important as it is in adult dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:09 AM
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What pill do you identify with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:06 AM
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Well you are Brazilian and Brazils social dynamics are very different from Americas. With your education, you would probably be considered UMC for the same work you do in your home country
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:05 AM
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Facts. I think LC white guys are raised RP, but they don't have the same game that comes from growing up black. TRP is definitely based around the game but it's very clear that no black men were apart of the formation of TRP. Internet RP dudes just lack the "swagger". I think the biggest difference is how much internet Terps seem to hate women. Across the board most black men do not hate women, we just view them as... women. The traditional African American family structure was inherently more e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:50 PM
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I'm glad everything ended up working out for you in the long run. BP "egalitarian" relationships look great on paper but they almost never work out IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:21 PM
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Great perspective. UC men have to worry more about guarding their wealth, compared to the lower classes who are looking for someone to build wealth with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:15 PM
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Yeah I'm not sure how everything applies across the pond. UK culture has some big differences from the US and I've only met LMC / MC Brits IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:10 PM
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That type of thinking can come from any class. But it sounds more UMC / UC to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 11:07 PM
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Where to start? ​ First off do not mix up the brand of Jerry Springer dating that was caused by generations of removing the black man from his family and the government incentivizing of black women to kick their own men out. ​ You also made the statement that LC blacks are not similar to whites and latinas which could not be any further from the truth. Outside of a few minor cultural differences, in America they are almost exactly the same. The same type of shit that goes down in the projects, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:27 AM
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I almost feel like crying after reading this. From laughter and from how beautiful it was. A++
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:09 AM
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It has begun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:57 AM
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Yepp Trump is like a walking cariacture of a Robber Baron
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:55 AM
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I would guess MC and up. Most people from the LMC/LC don't have the resources or incentive for that to be feasible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:52 AM
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Yes colonialism had many long lasting effects on many places across the world and each country has their own RMP/SMP quirks. But those would be very long and complex topics to go over that I couldn't possibly touch on in one Reddit post
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:50 AM
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Yes and no. Young, socially apt UMC men who've internalized the ReRP will be cleaning up in high school. The richer and more attractive they are, the more women they'll have access to. But at the same time, high school and college aged UMC women have not gotten socioeconomically rigid yet, so yes many of them of them will have relations with LC men. In an example from my own personal life, my freshman and sophomore year of HS was in a very LC school. Gang problems, lots of teen pregnancies and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:46 AM
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This is why I had to include the disclaimer, like everything else in life there's just too many variables for any rule to be 100% of the time. But your life is still a great case study on the creation of a purple pill. What class did your mom come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:33 AM
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Also stated in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:27 AM
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What class did you start in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:27 AM
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Thank you, you're right that the correlation won't be 10/10 but there does seem to be one. My summary of the UC comes from the outside looking in and my personal experience with them. The type of RP behavior I've observed up there is very unique, which is why I had to create the term Refined Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:26 AM
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The OP was about all the pills (Except black and pink) and their class correlations
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 01:18 AM
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If we're talking about the internet RP, I agree with you 100%. Compared to standard BP dating in America, the raw red pill practiced in LC black communities is much more similar to the dating practices in the Middle Cast, Africa, Latin America, Eastern Europe and the poorer parts of Asia give or take some cultural differences. Of course, I haven't been to every country in these places but this has been my experience in my travels so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:18 PM
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He made it work somehow. I can't argue with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:03 PM
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Soooo... You're agreeing with everything I said in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:02 PM
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Who said that and what does any of that have to do with the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:32 PM
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I like how people dont take the time to actually read something before replying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:28 PM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:28 PM
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Yes he acts more nouveau riche, even though he comes from older money
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:27 PM
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You are a literal walking example of the UMC person I laid out in the OP and everything in your post backs it up. So what rings false?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:15 PM
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Did you even read the OP? You're not saying anything I didn't cover I sense some classism here Don’t date anyone of a lower class though. Don’t let thots move up in the world Are you... sensing yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:12 PM
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"Onto the upper parts of the UMC and the Upper Class. These people lean Purple because A) the traditional values and decorum they're expected to follow from the time they're children is a version of RP and B) they were born with "Fuck U" money so they can experiment as they please. The UMC/UC version of red is a Refined Red Pill (ReRP) that is based more on traditional values than actual survival, so its also very different from the lower classes version and the internets. Another part of tradit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:09 PM
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You're actually a living example of what I laid out in the OP then
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:59 PM
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Yepp, MC and lower are much more accepting of the dangers that come from messing with dudes that are really in the streets because they're the only men they can consistently lock down who have the ability to provide a significantly higher standard of living for them and their children. Great point about the middle class, I hadnt looked at it that way. And the UC really is a strange place. Having the money to move mountains and those type of connections can make anything possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:54 PM
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Aren't you a second generation immigrant?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:47 PM
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What color did you start?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:45 PM
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In the OP, I outlined that people from the UMC and UC are raised to at least give the illusion of inclusion. But Donald Trump is an anomaly in many ways. He comes from a family of immigrants that went on to become hyper wealthy and he carried the ball from there. Even among his own family he's an outlier. He is directly related to the Heinz family (Yes, the Ketchup people) and they do not act like Trump. Most his children don't even mirror his public rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:43 PM
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One of my favorite colors
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:37 PM
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💯💯💯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 05:05 PM
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Yepp that's the hand we drew, its up to you to play your cards. Look at it like this way bro, you're a 6'5" black man at college in 2019. Dudes would give anything for your height and you have the forbidden fruit status surrounded by tons of young women fresh out of hs that are more than willing to experiment. Even if you're not Idris Elba in the face, if you work on your anxiety, refine your social skills and stay fresh, you can have a different woman every night if you wanted. Just keep your h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:56 AM
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Chin up fellow black man. Life is hard so we gotta be harder
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:33 AM
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You make some good points. Part of my passivity probably does come from growing up in a volatile, high-risk environment. But I also think being relaxed is just apart of my nature. According to my parents, I didn't even cry much as a baby. I've just always been chill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:16 AM
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I really have to watch mad men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:09 AM
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I don't understand your point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:08 AM
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If a girl has already decided she wants to sleep with you, there's not much left to do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:08 AM
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It's inherently vague because there are multiple females social matrices under the umbrella of the larger FSM. The FSMs of American and French women may overlap but will often differ in practice and sensibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 12:33 AM
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Yeah I get where you're coming from. The OP wasn't set up to be a strawman, I was just speaking from personal experience. And I agree wholeheartedly with TRP as a sexual strategy. I just feel that it often oversimplifies certain topics. Like the whole dominance thing. RP paints a very specific caricature of what a sexually successful man looks and acts like, disregarding traits that are inherent to the individual. For an AFC who hasn't developed his sense of self, following TRP blindly can actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:51 PM
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Women do love the male form, their standards are just stricter and more complex compared to men. There's not much a sexually attractive woman can say that will make the average dude not have sex with her. A very attractive man will have more leeway than one who's not, but can DEFINITELY still talk his way out of the vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:19 PM
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Many women love a "quiet and mysterious man". Its time tested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:37 PM
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Warren Buffet is notoriously laissez-faire and laid back in his management style
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:28 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:27 PM
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Quiet, unlikable or awkward guys don't get invited. You don't have to be the life of the party to get an invite
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:26 PM
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Good point. Winning the genetic lottery gives you built-in dread game
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:22 PM
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Good point, maybe I'm a bit more privileged than I thought. I didn't find the RP to get girls, I found it trying to understand them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:21 PM
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Lol there's nothing wrong with your example. It's a good metaphot for what I'm getting at Your OP is actually interesting and subtle, but not in TRP terms. What did you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:17 PM
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I agree. This is why I hate dealing with police. Its one of the few situations where I feel completely powerless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:12 PM
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And the strong, quiet guy is banging one of the others
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:11 PM
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I'm not over 30 so your point doesn't apply
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:08 PM
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I'm extremely passive. My point is that being passive does not always equal being submissive and is not mutually exclusive from being dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:50 PM
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"The loudest man in the room, is usually the weakest" These 2 quotes summarize my philosophy on life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:45 PM
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Can you elaborate a bit more? I think you described me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:39 PM
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In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:38 PM
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Gotcha. From the responses in this thread, it seems that some women are oblivious to the FSM. Some are ruled by it. And the third group just doesnt give a fuck. I think you're in the third group.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:35 PM
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Uhh huh, I think I get it So after spending a month in Paris, you tell your friends you just went for the weekend Nobody knows where those Hermès bags come from lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:56 PM
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Makes sense. But my original question to u/smurfesmurferson was, has the FSM overtaken a mans place in relationships (after the honeymoon). What I meant by this, is why is it so common for young women to go along with what their friends are saying and doing while not affording this privilege to their man. It's pretty common in my age group for a girl to let her friend(s) backseat drive their relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:51 PM
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Are you a girl? And are you American? Too many women here have acknowledged the FSM exist. Just because you ignore or choose not to acknowledge something doesn't refute its existence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:35 PM
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From what I've seen from you, you lice a pretty high flying lifestyle How do you hide that from the FSM?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:33 PM
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Me and you both. I'll let you when I find my next antisocial unicorn
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:29 PM
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Gotcha. Do you think modern women commiserate more or they just have more avenues to do it publicly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:25 PM
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Seriously. It's REALLY strange trying to debate a male super blooper. Hate is a strong word but I highly dislike those guys IRL and online It also doesn't help that bloops make up 90% of Reddit. "All men are trash" +2k upvotes "Whats wrong with women having some accountability?" -3k downvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:44 PM
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I would have to agree. PPD blues are much more reasonable by comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:53 PM
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Sounds accurate. Its funny that one of her worst fears was being a "doormat" in a relationship but she didn't mind being one in her female relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:45 PM
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Yeah good guess. You're actually the first one to connect those dots starts slow clap
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 06:07 AM
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I bet. Not sure how true it is, but I've heard a lot of doctors are raging narcissistic assholes when nobodies watching
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:44 AM
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Haha damn you mom sounds ballin Are you black? As a black guy that loved anime growing up, i know how harsh the community can be and having a queen bee sorority mom probably didn't make it much easier But hey, on the upside nobody can pull off a Yoruichi cosplay like you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:34 AM
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I've been so deep in PPD lately that I forgot how BLUE "normie" Reddit is. I just saw a comment get 1000+ upvotes just for dragging a guy who posted a non-offensive opinion saying he didn't like his girlfriends new hairdo Shit like this makes me appreciate y'all more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:44 AM
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Assuming you're not in your 60s, the last generation that practiced this consistently was the Greatest Generation who raised the Boomers. Boomers were basically Millennials without the internet and from them down everything has been unraveling. Men were incidental to their lives; nuisances who had to be tolerated, appeased, and occasionally sucked-up-to because you needed his money. My grandparents were all born in the 20s and they had a relationship where my grandfathers could literally hand th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:35 AM
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I think r/notliketheothergirls drags hypocrites and girls that deviate from the FSM. I've seen a bit of both The women in this thread have done a great job of going over the FSM and what it looks like. I think pngmafias post covered it best
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:20 AM
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Since you're our friendly neighborhood MBTI tarot reader, how do you think INFP women fare in the FSM? My ex was one and for the life of her she just couldn't separate herself from the group, regardless of how bad it got
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:46 PM
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They don't have to but if they didn't we'd go extinct. At least until robo-wombs become economical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 07:49 PM
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Can't argue with that. The halo effect is real
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:32 PM
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That's true. Most of her "friends" probably weren't really friends though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:27 PM
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Just being attractive will not make you the alpha in a group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:25 PM
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It's not bullshit. As somebody with 3 sisters and and plenty of female cousins, I've seen it in action a million times
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:16 PM
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Women being TRULY close friends is somewhat rare. Most women are just feigning friendship but can barely tolerate each other
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:36 PM
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Because that relies on finding enough women that have not only opted out of the FSM, but also qualify as good/reliable friends
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:35 PM
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I think Democracy + Christianity = Nuclear Families. American family structure was nuclear long before WW2, arguably going back as far as the first settlers. There was a greater reliance on community but the general family arrangement was the same
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:32 PM
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Who said anything about Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:27 PM
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I've wanted to create a topic on this for so long but i cant find a way to put it without unintentionally race baiting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:10 PM
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Aside from not having periods or having to birth children, being physically stronger and not generally being forced to fall in line with other men. We really don't have any special perks just for being a man that aren't balanced with tradeoffs I can't say that I'd give it up to be a woman but I also think women greatly overestimate what its like being an average dude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:44 PM
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A couple of times. It mostly happens when a girl is in your friendzone but she wants to be more than friends. Or if there's a large disparity in your SMVs and she has to do more than just throw the pussy at you to get some D And of course there's cougars that don't mind spoiling their boy toys. This is one of those times where physical attractiveness is key. If you're a "hot" dude, you can always find a girl or 2 that'll foot the bill. Young "hot" girls will almost never do this unless A) She wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:41 PM
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Makes sense. Having a ENFJ mom as an INTJ sounds grating. I'm INTP and my dad is ISFJ. We can't agree on jack shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:04 AM
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Oh okay you were in the "misfits" clique then. Your flair threw me off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:57 AM
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Was there ever a price to pay for living that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:52 AM
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One does not simply make jest of our lord Noodle Cthulhu. You have been warned
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:51 AM
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Goddamn Bethany. Always living her gluten-free "best life" and making sure everybody else sees Do you think think there's any way around being apart of the "mommy war" or are you just doomed to play along?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:47 AM
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No but they are literally Clevelands biggest employer, so its impossible to not know anybody who doesn't work for them, MetroHealth, University Hospital or some other part of the health care sector. And drama, social policing or whatever else you want to call it, it still happens. Like I said in the OP, there are exceptions and things do seem to taper off but it still happens
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:42 AM
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Less important in terms of her day-to-day personal family life, but more important in terms of safeguarding her family’s reputation This is what I mean. I feel like more women allow the FSM to have bigger control over their decisions including their relationships on top of general social politicking. It’s more about the female losers of the RMP feeling more comfortable being vocal - and weirdly being rewarded for it Can you elaborate on this a bit more?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 05:37 AM
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Hmm that doesn't match my experience. You know my cities main business is the Clinic and those nurses/doctors come with a never ending supply of FSM drama. Another woman in this thread also chimed in saying drama is a big thing in the medical field
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:59 AM
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Do you think it'll be easier now that everybody should be more mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:46 AM
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Lol it kinda sounds like you were in an UMC goth chick sorority. Female alpha is hot just like male alpha You don't necessarily have to be "hot" to be the alpha in a group of men. Our hierarchies are based more on character and ability than attractiveness. In some ways, being a "pretty boy" can actually hurt you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:43 AM
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Im not sure if your job is women heavy but this dynamic also plays out in the workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:39 AM
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Has it ever affected you being disconnected from the FSM for so long?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:33 AM
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You make some great points here. I was just thinking about this the other day. The FSM has always existed but it used to take a backseat position once a girl was in a relationship or married. But it seems that many young women nowadays will prioritize their female relationships over their romantic ones, (after the honeymoon period of course) to the point where their friends opinions take precedent over their mans/husbands. I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it yet but what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:31 AM
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As a Pastafarian, I'm quite offended by this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:24 AM
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The women in here have all chimed in with examples of some of the "bad things" that happen if they opt out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:24 AM
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That sounds like it'd drive you crazy. It seems like the FSM always has to have a "blacksheep" to make the pariah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:22 AM
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Hospitals are my cities largest industry. I've heard some crazy stories about what happens behind the scenes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:18 AM
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It sounds like you were part of the "smart girl" group. I remember in every school I went to, the really smart girls always hung out together but were largely separated from the rest of the group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:17 AM
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But the bit about unsavory rumors or physical assault is getting carried away I've seen it plenty of times. IRL and in the media. Have you ever seen the movie Mean Girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:15 AM
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If I'd had kids, I'm sure it would've been a huge effort on my part to get involved with all the mommy-group stuff to make sure my kid didn't have to struggle. You probably saved yourself a lot of hassle. From what I've seen, "mommy wars" can get vicious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:13 AM
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This comment deserves gold. Ironically it was something you said in an earlier thread that made me ask this in the first place. dark culty bitches Like the "I'll do anything to fit in" types? an important part of gaining status in the FSM is being hot Swear I've been saying this for years. It seems like the key to being on top of any FSM is being the hottest, most social and conforming girl in the group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:11 AM
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Has it always been that way or did you have to learn how to not give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:04 AM
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Wow that sounds awful. IME the FSM is most vicious on either extreme of the socioeconomic spectrum whereas the Middle class doesn't get it as bad. Some of the worst bullying I've ever seen came from rich girls in private schools. On the flip side, I've witnessed girls getting jumped (by other girls) for what to me seemed like no reason. One of the craziest examples is this girl I used to talk to that got jumped for a situation that started with her taking another girl out of her MySpace top frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:03 AM
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Got any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:53 AM
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Did you never try to fit in it or was it always something you avoided?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:51 AM
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Nothing you said has anything to do with what I'm talking about. Did you post in the right thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:32 AM
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That's not 100% true. Both of my grandmothers were from the lower classes and both were 100x more "classically feminine" than many of the UC women I meet nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:23 PM
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Fresh opinions do keep things interesting. I read through your post, that really was a pretty radical idea
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:19 PM
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How did you feel about RPW before PPD? I figure you guys would be on the same side usually
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:16 PM
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Was the divorce that bad or were you already a feminist and the divorce just cemented your opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:15 PM
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Damn how'd that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:12 PM
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Seems like a lot of people end up hating the opposite sex MORE after PPD. What brought you to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:12 PM
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Considering this is the internet, you can never really tell who you're talking to. Celebrities from Snoop Dogg to Anna Kendrick have admitted to using Reddit, its disingenuous to think we know anything about the person on the other side. You could be Terry Crews IRL and I would never know. Shit, just look at Trumps Twitter. If he's willing to say the outrageous things he does publicly, imagine what he and other successful people are capable of saying behind anonymity. Neither of us knows the soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:02 PM
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Right about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 07:45 PM
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Aight bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 07:37 PM
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Good analogy. Its a lot of brick on brick crime in PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:07 PM
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Where are you when the women here say that "no women are like that!"? We need your first hand experience!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:06 PM
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Well one guy on Facebook is not the end all definition of a RP. Red Pill guys range from multimillionaire playboys to neckbeards that never leave the basement. The community is very diverse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:01 PM
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This makes a ton of sense. A couple hundred thousand years of supervising toddlers would drive anybody crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 07:08 AM
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TRP is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy my experience of men and romantic relationships is just so different to the generalisations here How so? x2
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:55 AM
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I'm gonna assume that you identified as a feminists back in your Tumblr days. How common was outright misandry from your first hand POV?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:53 AM
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Do you think Blue Pill beliefs can be toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:50 AM
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You're probably more "cerebral" than many women. Most people never put much thought into what the other side goes through. And many women have the habit of dismissing mens issues or letting it go in one ear and out the other. A great example of this was the Red Pill documentary. The movie was made by an ex feminist and dealt mostly with valid men's issues like archaic divorce laws in women's favor, imbalanced awarding of child custody, etc Without even watching the movie, many women protested an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:46 AM
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I can agree with this. PPD does provide a space to at least discuss things civilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:34 AM
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What caused you to convert?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:29 AM
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That's the thing though, women never stopped receiving those systemic protections even after gaining total independence. Many modern young women expect the coddled lifestyle of an old time southern belle while having the mannerisms of a 1800s prostitute. Not all, but its become so ridiculously common that its become a meme at this point. The average young woman outside of the lower classes and specific demographics is still far from street smart unfortunately. Modern women are the most protected…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:22 AM
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Is it really the average man or the bottom of barrel? Some incels are truly awful people but I do see some that are locked out the market by disabilities and constantly rising standards of attractiveness. I can't say i have sympathy for all incels but I definitely still feel bad for some of them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:28 AM
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Ohhh i gotcha, the south definitely has its own beliefs and ways of doing things. It really can be hard to be a free thinker down there. But I love southern hospitality. People up north are so much colder
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:21 AM
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Oh okay, i actually agree with you on this. I see a lot of RP guys using the community as a crutch to be shitty people with no accountability in a very similar way to how some women use feminism to excuse bad behavior. There's so much vitriol on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:09 AM
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Damn I didn't think you'd been married that long. But I think the world has seen some big social movement since 08. Obama had just got elected, and then we immediately got The Donald after. Thats a pretty good highlight of change on its own On another note, I always pegged NYC as a more centrist liberal compared to places like California. On average I love New Yorkers, not so much with Californians
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:53 AM
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text-to-screech Lmaoooo Yeah I can see how much more moderate the blues here are. But the purple women seem to be milder shade of blue to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:45 AM
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Financially yes. In every other way no. All my favorite people come from Middle and down. Things are just too socially stuffy up there for me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:42 AM
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True. So many people get offended by everything, it's pretty hard to have open, good faith discussions about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:39 AM
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You were actually one of the first users I noticed here. Its pretty hard to forget Becky Esquire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:37 AM
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There is NO debating a super blooper. It just doesn't work. And PPD Blues are a lot more reasonable in general but damn they can still be incredibly hard to sway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:36 AM
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Aren't you one of the original PPD mods?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:33 AM
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I think if anybody needs to be challenged, its the incels. And the MGTOWs here generally seem pretty reasonable But Im glad to see PPD has made you understand things from our side a little better. My sister is in her 30s and she was telling me the other day how she was just now realizing how different life was for men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:33 AM
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The mods here do generally perform well at keeping things copacetic. I do feel like things lean more heavily towards the upper side of middle class though but I think thats just Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:26 AM
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Like what if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:21 AM
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Yeah thats why I came here. 99% of people IRL dont want to touch conversations around gender with any level of nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:21 AM
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You're English is actually pretty good, I almost always understand what you're getting at. I definitely agree that change takes time, sometimes it just looks like nobody is willing to change
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:19 AM
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So you're Black Pill then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:16 AM
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I define Red as the acceptance of biological truths around gender and attraction and blue as the more new age idealism around genders. The concepts are all around pretty subjective though And what is the "sad MRA view of masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:15 AM
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I honestly think most modern women could use a bit of RPW. With shifting gender roles, the beauty of femininity has been lost in a lot of young women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:09 AM
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Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:07 AM
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Your friends story sounds like it came straight out The Book of Red Pill. Why did you say herd mentality is local? I think it's universal, different herds just do different things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:07 AM
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Im still wrapping my head around what the pink pill is. Is it the black pill equivalent for girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:02 AM
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Haha we'll just have to see If you can make good samosas, we just might have a deal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:05 PM
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As long as you're over 4 feet tall, I got ways to make it work You gonna bring me closer to my Deen or make me more of a heathen? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:43 PM
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Its not a tit for tat example. Its a metaphor that highlights individual accountability in a morally gray area. Just like she's a consenting adult so are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:15 PM
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It's not about the woman or her promise with her SO in this equation. Its about one's own personal accountability. If i see someone drop a $100 dollar bill, I return it to to them. Not because i made a promise to the other party, but because its my personal responsibility to not be a shitty person and I'd expect them to do the same for me. I've been on both sides of this scenario and it feels good both ways. Plus, sleeping with a woman i know is in relationship just reeks of desperation. Just li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:08 PM
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I never realized women loved uncircumcised dicks so much. Too bad my parents deformed me at birth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 03:48 AM
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Tekashi is like the exact opposite of everything you want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 03:43 AM
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Why the hate for us tall dudes? Aside from being 5 inches over your height limit, I'm literally your dream guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 03:41 AM
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Yes, you do. People generally let others set their moral compass for them which is what you're doing. Using wisdom gained from others experiences is very different from letting others set your moral compass. Nobody forced me to believe the Golden Rule, I choose to live by it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:32 AM
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I'll remember this in case I ever marry a girl from the Czech Republic. I can see already see myself now. "Where tf do you think you're goin looking like a pornwhore!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:13 AM
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Makes you wonder how often she does shit like that. I feel sorry for her "husband"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:07 AM
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You don't have to care about what other people think to have a moral compass. And I'm pretty sure getting shot in the face cuz some dude found out you were fucking his wife qualifies as drama
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:06 AM
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Holy fuck it actually responded u/DragoonXFury
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:58 AM
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Nope thats just too much drama. If I know for a FACT that she's in a relationship then its a no-go regardless of how hot she is. I live by the Golden Rule of "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you" and I'm not even Christian
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:05 AM
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Amateur or semi-pro only for me. I want my porn to look like it was shot on a phone from 2011
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:36 AM
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With 7 more dudes watching
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:30 AM
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Do Czech girls wear a lot of makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:30 AM
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I was 6 when the 90s ended
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:27 AM
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I have no kinks that aren't somewhat vanilla by 2019 standards. I do have this weird thing for girls wearing stockings, panty hoses or bobby socks during sex being a major turn on for me Anything involving animals, excrement or multiple partners (outside of another woman) are no-nos If i found out my woman was fucking a dog, she'd have to find another dude. That's gross af
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:01 AM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:18 AM
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For some yes, for most no. If you've had enough sex with women IRL you'll find that most porno sex isn't just uncomfortable but it just doesn't feel good. Kudos to any dude that can actually get off from jackhammering a girl for 30 minutes straight As far as physical standards of attraction goes, the vast majority of porn stars aren't even absurdly hot. They just have on crazy amounts of makeup + implants. Take that away and most of them could be the girl next door
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:17 AM
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????????????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 07:06 PM
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Who tf made this bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:50 PM
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Not sure if you're joking or serious. Either way, you're winning
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:48 PM
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Lol I love the honesty here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:47 PM
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Oh okay, I gotcha It seems like you Drake looking dudes have slightly wider dating options than us Chris Brown colored folks. Have you noticed this in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:46 PM
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Okay I see you out here taming players, you must be the heartbreaker type. Yes fresh off the boat. Completely different beauty and cultural standards for those folks. I noticed this too, do you think fob Asians are more likely to date interracially or less? And are some cultures just less open to it in general? The only Asian girls that ever gave me a shot were fob Chinese or Filipino and the ONLY time I've seen an Asian dating a non-white or non-asian was this 6 foot+ Korean dude who was dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:43 PM
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I think I only slept with one American girl, and dated another American girl very briefly. Why the aversion towards American girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:31 PM
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Are you black? Regarding hookups I don’t “attract” certain types I go after women I like which happen to be women with fat asses and tiny waists. Are you saying you NEVER have women coming after you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:57 PM
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This is an odd question for women. Who she attracts has little to do with who she is compatible with. That's why they're separate questions. The dynamic is probably different for women since most guys will go after literally anything we find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:55 PM
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fob Asians Fresh off the boat? The guys I keep tend to fall really hard really fast, probably in part due to their risk-taking proclivities. The past 3 guys I’ve been with were all n>100 and told me they loved me within 1 month of meeting. It’s honestly kind of alarming cause I definitely did not feel actual love at that point for any of them Are you sure they're really falling or are they just playing the game? Pretending to be head over heels for a girl is Player 101. It works more often than …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:53 PM
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Lol that's specific. Was your husband in this category when you met him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:47 PM
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Can you maintain relationships with this type?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:45 PM
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I've never met a woman who I could attract, but who did not want an LTR with me, so the women that I attract and keep are the same women So you've never attracted a girl who just wanted a ONS or a STR? They are usually lonely introverted types that spend too much of their time in online chatrooms and on message boards This type can be really good LTR material if they can get past their insecurities and extreme introversion I also attract Asians easier than white women, even though I am white mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:43 PM
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because I'm not intimidating Do you mean your personality or your physical appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:32 PM
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Oh okay, I can see where the mixup is now. I think most people could probably date anybody if they were willing to change/accommodate enough. But dating like that wouldn't be very realistic in modern times
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 04:30 PM
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The first line of the OP was "what types of people do you usually attract and what types can you maintain a LTR with." Thats literally what I'm asking. Another example: I naturally attract a lot of overly abrasive women but I could never maintain a relationship with most of them. On the flip side of this, I usually have to bring out the attraction with quieter women but my most successful relationships have been with this type
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 03:20 PM
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the occasional hoodrat. They’re mostly attracted to masculine or hyper Yepp. You gotta be a certain type of macho to make things work with that type MY BIG DICK A black guy that can talk educated, looks very masculine and attracted to black women is rarer than you think. Upvote just for the BBC joke. But educated black women really do appreciate a well rounded black man. There is a pretty large portion in the US that still goes for same types as the hoodrats though. Not sure if the UK has a simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 03:05 PM
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The types you can keep are non-conformist and creative types then. You attract a wider audience and it bottlenecks into a much smaller one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:59 PM
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Atlas, you are a lovable anomaly among humanity. To flesh out my question, i attract many women that I could never have a healthy relationship with, without making (or faking) major personality and lifestyle changes. Traits that make a person sexually attractive and traits that make relationships sustainable are often 2 entirely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:54 PM
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I think Reddit just provides congregated examples of the disparities on Tinder and OLD in general. If I never read through these threads where so many men are finding it hard to get a match, i would assume every guy is at least getting a few of them. But that's not the case. Tinder really is made for hookups. IRL a girl can catch glimpses of your presence and personality to adjust your SMV/RMV accordingly. This is not the case on Tinder so they have to make decisions based purely on your attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:52 AM
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In terms of importance from most to least : Height Attractiveness (Looks) Build (Muscularity) I think most girls can appreciate a guy in good shape but they generally don't want an overly ripped mutant either. A notable exception is female gym rats. This also doesn't take into account the other factors that come together to make a guy attractive to each individual woman's preferences ie intellect, social skills, swagger, sense of humor, talents etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:42 AM
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From my experience a high notch count and a fucked up family go hand in hand. Not always but its extremely common. I think racking up a super high n count is usually a symptom or manifestation of some underlying issue(s) Basically all the high N girls I've known fall into one, or several of 5 categories: Drug / Alcohol addicts Survivors of (Sexual) Childhood Trauma Women with abnormally high sex drives Women who seek validation through sex The Religious / Sheltered woman that goes crazy as soon …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 10:59 AM
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You can't tell me that pickup line wasn't the truth. I hope you gave him a shot ​ We actually sound pretty close in complexion, lemme see if I can find something without doxxing myself And I completely fucked up that last gif, its fixed now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing, that was pretty insightful. ​ Do you ever think you'll settle down for factors outside of sexual desire? Like companionship, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:21 PM
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I purposefully won't sleep with a low-N girl I like as a person if I KNOW she'll want something more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:06 PM
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COLLINWOOD?? What you doin that deep in the hood? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:55 PM
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This is how I'll imagine you from now on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:54 PM
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Not TMI at all. I have a 99% chance of predicting my girls periods from how horny she is, its the biggest giveaway. ​ So when you get that itch do you keep a rolodex of guys to solve it or are you in a relationship? I don't mean to get too personal, I've just never dealt with an ace in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:43 PM
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Me imagining a white girl from Texas calling my friend out and telling him to "STFU you drydick bitchass motherfucker"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:37 PM
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How many times must I tell you woman?? I ONLY use jojoba! ​ This is actually getting pretty close to home. If you had locs, that last couple could really be us. But you playin
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:33 PM
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How come I never seen you then? I know errybody that comes through my city ​ And tbf my generation does kinda suck, I can't really argue with you on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:23 PM
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Oh okay. So does that also mean that you never get horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 09:55 PM
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Did you pack our ankle lotion my Queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 09:52 PM
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What's an "ace"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 09:37 PM
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We could've been cool IRL too but you hate my city AND my generation. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:17 PM
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Even through Reddit, I can actually feel your hatred for this dude. I don't know him but I don't think I'd trust him alone with any female friends of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:10 PM
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Lol we do though. He doesn't catch any more shit than the rest of us do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:00 PM
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Im King Hotep round these parts. I could have you wearing a dashiki in no time flat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:52 PM
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I think you might've hit the nail on the head. I think he got grandfathered into the group from a time before our BS detectors were developed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:49 PM
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Lol thats not too far off actually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:45 PM
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Makes sense. The thing about Malcolm is he's not really socially awkward but he's not socially "smooth" either. He's in this weird in between place I can't really describe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:44 PM
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Well damn. You friend sounds legitimately fucking crazy. Malcolm's not that kind of guy. I've never heard him say anything that'd make me believe he has a hatred for women but he does seem to identify with women more than the rest of us. He can be a little try hard at times though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:41 PM
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It's starting to sound like women have spidey senses for creeps disguised as nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:34 PM
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It depends on the type of dudes we bring him around him. If they're even a molecule more "street" than me or Daryl they almost always hate Malcolm, to the point of open disrespect. We figured out a long time ago, there's just certain people not too bring around him. Our white friends usually tolerate him pretty well though. Except the women, they're not as openly disrespectful but they generally dont like him much either. And our group dynamic is pretty egalitarian, its not like Malcolm is the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:27 PM
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It does get really annoying once you realize he's doing it. Would you cuss a dude out for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:07 PM
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Maybe it's a bit of both? 90% of the time I only have good things to say about him unless he's been really insufferable lately. During those times times when our friendship is rockier, my GF probably will hear about it and it'll create a feedback loop. But the first couple of times he got attacked like that happened when we were all younger, I can distinctly remember not painting any type of picture and females would still have these types of reactions to him. So I'm not sure how much of this we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:05 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:48 PM
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That's a pretty good point. He could be giving off creeper vibes that we as guys don't pick up on. To further your point, a good female friend of Daryl and I called out Malcolm for lying about everything when we were all hanging out once. Up until that point, we never really noticed it. His lies aren't really malevolent, they tend to focus on one upping other stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:39 PM
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I don't really know much of his back story with the girl in the OP, just how it ended up playing out. And no he doesn't smell or anything like that. The things I've heard girls mention the most, from most to least: "He's ugly" "I just don't like him" "He's a lame" "He's such a liar" "I could probably beat him up"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:16 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Do you think anything would change if he wasn't handsome?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:08 PM
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No Tyrone in the group? Cmon pal. What a missed opportunity. Lmao you can say Im Tyrone in our group if it makes you feel better Anyway, about Malcolm. First of all, he's probably ugly, and therefore has the inverse halo going. Ya know I always thought he was average looking guy but we've also been friends since we were kids. I have heard a few females say he was ugly though. The oddest part is that he's not the shortest nor the ugliest dude in our group. That'd be Antonio whos like 5'5" ish and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:06 PM
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Malcolm is kind of a male feminist SJW type You called it. The only thing stopping Malcolm from being a male feminist is the fact that he's never called himself one traditional conservative I'd say they're more liberal women with traditional values but you get the point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:53 PM
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Yes in some ways, no in others. People trust me to keep their secrets and I never break that trust
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:50 PM
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Because you're asking me to not believe my own experiences. Regardless of how probable it is, I've seen it a million times
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:40 PM
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Some people are just messy like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:37 PM
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The disgust becomes apparent if they try to show romantic interest.Poor fellas It gets really vicious behind closed doors when they have privacy and plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:39 AM
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Well I'm black so there's that, our culture is a bit different than mainstream Americas. I am also loosely affiliated with a bunch of the subcultures in my city so a lot of stuff makes it back to me eventually. And its DEFINITELY possible for a girl to have sex with a single guy and nobody will be the wiser. With more people, there's a higher chance she's gonna get exposed Depending on the girl, who her friends are, who was around at the time and the guy himself things can get out immediately or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:59 AM
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Yeah man I had to side eye her after a point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:35 AM
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Yeah we all are actually except my last gf who was Palestinian
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:33 AM
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Only if you're a recluse or not well liked. Being socially well connected gives you access to information on virtually anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:11 AM
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I'll give you a real life example. My best friends ex girlfriend went to school with a girl that I used to mess around with. She knew more about her sexual history than I did and even pointed out a couple of the dudes she knew my lady friend had slept with This is why we say "It's a small world"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:06 AM
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out of 400k people you know probably at most a few hundreds. True but the couple hundred I know also know a couple hundred, that also know a couple hundred people. Before you know it, everybody knows everybody thru somebody. And I think you're taking the word neighborhood too literally. She could be the "town whore", the "city slut" or the neighborhood thot, it doesn't matter. With the rise of the internet and social media, a girls sexual history has never been easier to investigate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:56 AM
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Lol I dont think I want anything that JR Smith touched
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:46 AM
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Its probably wayyy worse in small towns where literally everybody know everybody. If you're discussing your random one night stand with a guy you met at the bus stop, then you need better things to do. Ironically I was in an Auto Zone not too long ago and the guy who worked there was telling me all about how his wife ran off with their Mexican gardener. I had never met him before and it got kinda awkward after that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:45 AM
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She took the midnight dick goin anywhereeee
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:36 AM
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I live in a big city. Even in a big city, information flies fast especially stuff related to sex In a situation where a girl is new to town, she effectively has a fresh slate so I wouldn't worry too much about it. But if she was a hoe in Texas, she'll probably end up being a hoe in NY too. So only time will tell
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:01 AM
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We have every major league team and one of the most renowned hospital systems on the planet. Plus we're in the 50 biggest cities by population size in the country. Definitely a major city. And people do lie about sex all the time, still doesn't undermine the social implications of one's sexual reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:54 AM
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average people don't know each other This doesn't make sense. Do you live in a city of recluses? thots are not that rare to be locally famous. Infamous would be a better word. Dudes talk about who we're fucking ALL THE TIME. This info gets into the rumor mill fast especially if a girl has been linked to be a bunch of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:38 AM
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Im from Cleveland. Whos fucking who has always been, and always will be the hottest gossip. Regardless if you're in the projects or the high end suburbs. Sex and the scandals around it are always hot topics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:31 AM
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My city has almost 400k people in it and our metro area is a little over 2 million. Not a small town by any means. And nobody knows a girls true N-count except her, but info on a girl who's "loose" gets around fast even in cities the size of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:25 AM
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Yeah but knowing Tom, Dick, Harry and half of the Cleveland Cavaliers had their turn isn't sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:51 PM
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I care because of the exclusivity factor and the effects high N-count women have on my social standing. If you don't check the Hoefax and shes been with a million dudes, you lose a lot of respect among other men. Wifing up the neighborhood thot is the easiest way to get socially demoted. As far as exclusivity goes, who wants a woman that EVERYBODY had access to? It kills the allure knowing an umpteenth amount of dudes have done god knows what to YOUR woman. This only applies to my dating standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:40 PM
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The crack wave happened. The 90s was a crazy time to be alive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:46 PM
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Rule #1 - Never Think A Commissioned Saleswoman is Actually Into You I've worked with many a saleswoman in my time and I've seen plenty of them flaunt their sexuality to make the sale, it's ridiculous. The more ridiculous part is how often dudes actually fall for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:49 PM
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Because returning the favor is tantamount to rape and/or murder if the guy does it Thats really how they make it sound here In a sense men are able to return the favor. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:42 PM
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So you've NEVER gave your number to a guy you met at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:39 PM
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Have you ever gone for a guy that hit on you at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:38 PM
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Its never appropriate or it's never happened to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:37 PM
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I think you made the right decision. The examples aren't tit for tat but you do have a point. There's a lot of factors that determine how socially acceptable simple gestures are. Especially nowadays. On a side note, im a bit younger than you and I hit on girls at the drive thru all the time. The worst that's ever happened was I get a soft curving but I get tons of free food and a decent amount of numbers this way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:00 PM
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Yeah i know 2 guys making over 100k a year in insurance around my age (26). Its just takes a lot of work and networking like any commission job
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:42 PM
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If thats what's your passionate about, go for it I feel what you're saying about sales, it can be a pretty dishonest profession. Its just the only one that can earn you six digits without a college degree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:39 PM
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Women shouldn't be sleeping with men that don't care about them. Situations like that can go left at any time And I'm all for a little shaming here and there but I don't think this would be situationally appropriate. Snitching to a dudes mom, when he already doesn't care about you is doomed for failure I mean, what could his mom even tell him? "Start with slow strokes Timothy, but don't forget to speed it up and never jackrabbit!" I threw up in my mouth even thinking about discussing my sex life…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:37 PM
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I've got an easier idea. Women could just tell guys how they want it and mean it. Telling our moms you didn't cum last night would probably get you smacked or at least a hard side eyeing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:23 PM
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High five for being understanding. ​ I'm not saying it's all women. There's just a lot here on Reddit who blame guys for everything that like to derail the topic by throwing unnecessary insults. It makes it hard to have productive conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:16 PM
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It's easier to rule people who are not united hence we have things like identity politics. That's the biggest problem nowadays. Everybody is so easily offended and defensive about everything, it's impossible to come together about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:11 PM
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Don't look at it like women are the antagonist in your story. It's not healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:47 PM
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Really? ​ TIL all women aren't apart of the congregation of the Pussy Church
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:45 PM
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Does the world really hate America(ns)? In my travels, I've been told that "I'm pretty cool for an American" a few times Many foreigners seem to have a pretty bad opinion of us worldwide, which is kinda understandable I guess We have been involved in a a shit ton of the world's mischief either overtly or covertly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 02:29 PM
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Somewhat. Its still my first month on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 12:22 PM
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Auto sales, new and used. The product quality varies depending on dealership. Real Estate and insurance can also be incredibly lucrative
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 12:17 PM
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Every generation has it's idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 07:31 PM
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I did say "for the most part". Plus, hindsight is 20/20. A lot of things that we all know were bad ideas now weren't always seen that way in their time. And I didn't say tribalism or toxic movements are new concepts, they're just intensified in the age of the internet. Also, every millennial knows the world existed before us. But todays user friendly internet didn't. Its the biggest game changer since the invention of the automobile and the telephone. And its arguably the biggest jump forward hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 07:07 PM
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Take all my upvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:31 PM
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Its the cultural messages we receive on sex and relationships and the manner of how we receive them. Back in the day, most advice in this area would come from your parents, peers, siblings, community, books or other media. For the most part, if something was a really terrible idea or extremely nonsensical it would never reach the average person. And if it did, your social group always had the ability to correct you. Information also had gatekeepers, if you wanted to make a show or write a book y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:13 PM
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Im not sure about the TRP subs, I've never frequented them and I didn't find the manosphere until 2012-2013 I remember it being a bunch of angry motherfuckers in TRP back in the day and a few intellectual types. I cant really remember a whole bunch of whiners This was also before the rise of incels. So you're probably right, there does seem to be a lot of whiny ass kids nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:49 PM
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The rise of social media, the growth of internet culture, fourth wave feminism, shifting cultural norms, etc. Alot is different for people coming of age in 2019 compared to 2009 or 1999
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:33 PM
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RP material has always openly talked about degeneracy of modern western culture. Isn't "enjoying the decline" admitting that things are getting degenerate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:28 PM
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I gotcha. And yeah its kinda the Kardashian voice or the Valley Girl Accent. Lots of "OHMYGAWWWDD"s lol https://youtu.be/N5VW5FMblho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:19 AM
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What class is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:12 AM
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I live in a big ass UMC/UC bubble. I don't run into LC people that often. Not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just how it is. There are some stuck up douches here but it's not the majority. Most people are just....normal. Idk what it is but the insulation that the UMC/UC has from everybody else just makes them feel a bit off. Not saying you guys are all weird or anything, but I have seen some strange beliefs up there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:11 AM
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Don't stress it man, we've all been there b4. See if you can find a commission sales job, i used to work in retail and my first real sales job changed my life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:08 AM
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Texas just seems like it's own world entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:06 AM
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doesn't make fun of me for sounding/acting like a "rich girl", etc Do you drink a lot of Starbucks and have a prominent vocal fry? That's the first thing that came to my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:05 AM
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What class do you come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:01 AM
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It may be different in the UK but in the US certain values are usually congregated in different income brackets. The food you eat, the way you interact, the clothes you wear, etc A lot of my family are barristers bankers teachers etc A family like this over here would usually be in the UMC here in the UK a working class background is a source of pride Its kinda the same way here, but "new money" is somewhat looked down on in the upper crust social circles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:59 AM
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UMC would be the people that take multiple trips a year, money is never really a problem, usually go to great schools, live in nice houses in well manicured suburbs but aren't driving Lambos or living in Dubai for 3 months out the year
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:51 AM
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There are men that don't appreciate home cooked meals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:47 AM
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It sounds like you actually prefer a more blue collar dude from your examples
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:47 AM
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"Live, Love, Laugh" mentality, blargh. If your philosophy can be summed up by a resin plaque purchased from HomeGoods, umm ... Lol I always thought i was being petty for thinking this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 01:44 AM
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Hmm thats kinda rare. Was it his ambition, personality, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:58 PM
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Huh i would have never guessed Does being an UMC black couple ever make you feel isolated from the rest of the community?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:57 PM
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Yeah i hear that often. I bet she feels like your MC lifestyle is living like royalty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:56 PM
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Do you ever feel culture shocked? As someone from the lower classes, being around old money can feel like an entirely different planet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:54 PM
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Oh ok. I find it hard to classify a lot of people from rural families. They can be uber wealthy and still have MC/LMC values. Its a strange phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:52 PM
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Gotcha. Imo, having old world values actually helps women in the western dating world The only problem is that alot of the times they're contradictory with how we do things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:48 PM
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Does her life experience match yours? Ie. are you also somebody that started LC and worked their way up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:44 PM
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Damn thats extreme. Life experiences like can keep someone really grounded or push them over the edge. Im glad its working out for you guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:42 PM
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I think it depends on where you're located and how low you're talking. Where I'm from this is a pretty accurate observation. Not every female is gonna be like this but you really have to watch out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:38 PM
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Congratulations on finding a secret sugar mama
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:35 PM
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What class is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:34 PM
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I think this can go really well or really bad depending on the girl/guy. There's definitely still gold diggers in other countries
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:34 PM
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What country are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:33 PM
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STOP MAKING ME SPIT OUT MY COFFEE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:32 PM
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My HS boyfriends parents were independently wealthy. And white. Are you not white? In the end I married a highly educated professional black man with working class roots he’s not ashamed to own, which is the ideal for me. Sounds like you got the best of both worlds I’m curious what this means. IME, shit is crazier for the LC because they’re always under financial pressure. But I can tell you for a fact, UMC and UC people are out there doing the same shit, whether it’s drugs, excessive drinking, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:28 PM
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Plus, there’s no pleasing them. Anything you ever do is underwhelming to sufficient/adequate/tolerable/acceptable. That's why I can't deal with these types. Way too high maintenance for me LC girls have their own sets of problems. As someone that was raised in this environment, it's kind of dangerous for native UMC to fuck around with these women. They have a million tricks up their sleeves and I've seen more than a few guys get physically robbed this way. Even for us men that were raised in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:15 PM
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Up I'll assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:05 PM
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So I'm gonna assume you're on the Upper middle Yeah I never had a problem with it. I spent my formative yeard in private schools and on expensive trips and don't give a fuck about my partners background. Im gonna assume you're on the upper middle side at least then. You'd date a girl from the lowest parts of the LC? I grew up in the projects and even I wouldn't date 99% of these women. Hookups is cool but dating is a whole nother topic In actuality they're basically the economic equivalent to lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:04 PM
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Fair enough. But interdependence is still the opposite of independence Total independence is equally as bad as codependency in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 11:59 AM
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I actually took the time to pull out the dictionary for another commenter. There are 5 definitions of independence and only 1 thats possible in a relationship. Thats #3 free from outside control; not depending on another's authority. not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence. capable of thinking or acting for oneself. not influenced or affected by others; impartial. not connected with another or with each other; separate. And if you wanted to get into it, there's definitely an argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 11:42 AM
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I actually took the time to pull out the dictionary on this one. Of the 5 definitions of independence, there is only one that supports what your saying free from outside control; not depending on another's authority. not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence. capable of thinking or acting for oneself. not influenced or affected by others; impartial. not connected with another or with each other; separate. Of these the only one you can be in a healthy relationship is #3, which I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 11:31 AM
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Yes is it. In the US we have a holiday that just passed called Independence Day. Among other things, it's a celebration of the day that we broke away from British influence and became our own nation. This is the going definition. Functioning 100% autonomously without input or influence from another source. This is impossible in a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 11:20 AM
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But you're still here flirting with me 🤔 I must be doing something right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 05:47 AM
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I'm asking how can you be independent in a relationship. Just because you don't need somebody to survive does not make you independent from them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 05:39 AM
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You could have just not responded? I appreciate the compliment though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 03:39 AM
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Wow so much anger Have you ever considered that YOUR experience may be off base?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:51 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:07 AM
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I like how you wrote an entire essay to more or less agree with my points, then say I'm projecting. I was 6 when we brought in the new millennium and I entered high school a few years after you graduated from 07-11. Around the beginning of PC culture. The problem doesn't start there. The problems started with the diversification of the internet and college campuses. Almost everyone I know that went, came back in full blown SJW gear ready to be offended by virtually anything claiming everything w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 01:45 AM
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South Park is satire. The Simpsons is satire. That was just a piss poor attempt at humor and shaming that failed miserably at both. Good job my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:47 PM
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You literally started your comment with "*white hetero dudes for thousands of years" America hasn't even been a thing for thousands of years and white guys didnt just invent gender roles. Shit, the entire concept of Yin and yang comes from a Chinese man that lived before the UK was even formed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:32 PM
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I'm a black man and this is one of the most Anglocentric comments I've ever seen. America is only a couple hundred years old. This one comment rejects the thousands of years of African, Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern and every other races having their own prosperous societies Good job "ally".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:24 PM
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It's the decorum. You can get as rich as you want, if you don't exhibit the standard behaviors of the UC you'll never be accepted. This works in the inverse as well. Somebody born and raised rich will stick out like a sore thumb in the hood. The only difference is that the lower class is much more accepting compared to how exclusionary the upper crust can be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:13 PM
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"But far too often, we have let the masculine go into overdrive and we have let our divine feminine nature wither on the vine." Her core argument is that women have been living in their masculine energy too long and have chosen to forego the feminine. So shes advocating for the same balance that I am. I never said men can't be in touch with their feminine traits. The problem is many of us have let them dominate our masculine, while women's issue is the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:02 PM
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TBH I'd rather trust a woman with a PHD in social psychology on the matter over a random reddit commenter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:44 PM
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Me and you both bro. It's a time tested male rite of passage. I'll never forget my punch mitzvah
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:41 PM
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Damn that's 1/4th of the time you're awake everyday... I can't even imagine it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:34 PM
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Yepp, everybody thinks "its fine" when they perceive they're on top
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:32 PM
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Ohh. Then no, it's not "pure woo" https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-women/201504/are-you-rejecting-your-feminine-traits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:30 PM
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I have no idea what that is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:14 PM
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A productive comment as always
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:52 PM
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Not sure how old you are but I did put a disclaimer in the OP that there's some cultural differences in being a 20-something in the 201X's compared to the early aughts, 90's and 80's
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:46 PM
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I read somewhere that you guys use less social media than we do. Im not sure if that's true or not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:35 PM
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Yepp. The greatest men in history were usually great collaborators. It's hard to accomplish anything 100% by yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:25 PM
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Fair enough but you don't have to be violent to have a backbone. I do think that having a physical altercation or 2 in life gives you a wider perspective on things. You can just tell when a dudes never been punched in the face before
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:21 PM
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Its annoying when people dismiss valid issues like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:17 PM
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The freedom to have whatever kind of relationship you want is a beautiful thing. But IRL the same people campaigning for abolishing of genders are some of the same people that are championing the erasure of traditional relationships entirely. It seems like non-traditional women make it the... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ca66hx/is_the_sexual_marketplace_crashing/etjbj20?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share These people are from a rarity and the phenomenon has been studie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:14 PM
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We're talking about in the context of relationships. A person choosing to be in a relationship inherently gives up their independence in exchange for becoming part of a unit. They can still be strong but they can no longer be independent. Especially when kids are involved People acting 100% independently in a relationship, aren't a unit. That's just 2 people who have sex that just so happen to live together
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 08:10 PM
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Yin and yang in this case is about the balance that comes from a feminine woman and a masculine man that results in a harmonious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:46 PM
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Not in the slightest. There's a world of difference being between a strong man and an independent man You can be both, just not in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:42 PM
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I had to Google what a titter was
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:38 PM
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Nope I'm 26. You're describing an early millennial
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:37 PM
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How are these two ideas at odds? Theres no "I" in team. It's everyone's job as an adult to filter through the shit, and find for themselves what they can take and incorporate into their dating goals. Most people don't believe either of those things. It is each individuals job to sort through the shit, most are just bad it. And if you think "most people don't believe this", I can't make you. Both are extraordinarily common tropes nowadays. What do you mean by backbone? Having a backbone is having…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:36 PM
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I'm not complaining it's just an observation. And I am a late millennial born to early boomers so I'm frequently described as an "old soul"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:20 PM
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As someone from a battleground state i can confirm this. It creates a really weird dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:23 PM
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Men take a lot of emotional labor to maintain How so? IME women require way more emotional maintenance in relationships than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:19 AM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:14 AM
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Thats basically every guy that's not skinny or ripped
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:36 AM
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Female cackling does have a way of fucking with you. If it comes down to it, you can always verbally crush and / or punch a dude. But there's not many ways to check a woman or worse, a group of women laughing at you besides just ignoring it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:34 AM
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Trust me, they're out there. Now a woman with NO neuroticism on the other hand....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:25 AM
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My biggest things that make a woman LTR material are these, in no particular order -Attractiveness She doesn't have to be the hottest woman on the planet but I do have to personally find her attractive. -Sweetness / Low neuroticism Not every girl is a raging soul crushing stereotype like many men believe. Sweet girls just inspire me to be a better man. -Family Oriented If a girl doesn't want a big family, I can't do it. Family and family values are huge for me -Selectively Sexual Also a big misc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:26 AM
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I'm a guy, my sisters are both almost 20 years older than me and their kids range from 3 years older to 6 months younger than I am. I have a good relationship with all off them but it would've been impossible for me to play any major role in raising them.. Considering 4/5 were born before me I have an admittedly odd family structure but the navajo system seems like it would only work for specific families with at least 2-3 kids with some boys hopefully born among them I don't think it could work…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 03:42 PM
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If the tallest, richest, most handsome guy on the planet did some really cringy, socially unacceptable shit and GOT CAUGHT ON CAMERA doing it, Twitter would rip them apart without a doubt. A couple years back, NFL quarterback Cam Newton made an off the cuff comment to a reporter that wasn't anything too crazy, but some people thought it was sexists. And Twitter went crazy on him for it. Nobody is immune to criticism on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:38 AM
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No I'm not saying that at all. "Good looking" people are not immune to this. I'm saying that whatever is obvious will be easy pickings for criticism if you do stupid shit. This guys height only becomes funny because he's so aggressive about it. If he wasn't so pissed off he'd just another guy in a bagel shop that just so happened to be short
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:20 AM
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It's the truth. People do condemn bad behavior. One of the easiest and common ways to do that is by mocking features. If he was super fat they'd go after that. If he had a notable deformity, they'd go after that. That's just how it goes. This situation just happened to be a paradox. Usually if a man was raging as hard as he was, people would be scared. But a guy being that aggressive paired with such a short stature creates a really easy target to go after
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:05 AM
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People make fun of what's funny An asshole isn't funny. An asshole hobbit is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:51 AM
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Wouldn't a system like this require people to have more kids? Both my parents first children were girls and I read somewhere that people who live closer to the equator will have more girls. With people having less kids in general, how would this work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:06 AM
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A world like that sounds more efficient, but still terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:42 AM
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Until she no longer sees his utility and finds another baby daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:35 AM
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Don't forget public housing. Without that, the homeless rates would be even more outrageous
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:22 AM
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What generation are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 11:36 PM
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I think the expectation to know "feminine" stuff like that went out the window with gender roles. Not to say no young women can cook, but it's not super common https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-millennials-dont-know-how-to-cook-2016-08-10
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 11:32 PM
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The fetiishize weird basic adult skills like cooking and sewing and meal planning and budgeting. I think you underestimate how uncommon these skills are in many millennial women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 11:06 PM
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I forgot you're not American. When somebody says Preach, it can be a good thing. It's a way of agreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 10:54 PM
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What makes him so special?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:21 PM
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So how would this be applied to human mating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:19 PM
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Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:12 PM
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I think alot of these men have major personality deficits and they can't consistently keep women around them. Some of these guys are probably just wealthy incels. instead of building the social skills to catch women, they just pay them instead. Then there's always the efficiency factor. You could spend the time, money and effort to potentially get a 10/10 to sleep with you. Or you could just pay one and skip the extra steps. I've known some pretty smooth successful guys that just don't want to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:02 PM
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The term is a bit over the top but several women in this thread have openly admitted being "alpha widowed" so the theory does apparently apply to some at least
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:09 PM
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There was probably more agenda to his comment than what Im saying, I'm just verifying that these tactics have utility in a relationship. But they can also be used toxically, if used inappropriately
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:42 PM
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For their relationship it probably was. I don't know shit about medieval ballads but if I was slightly angry with my wife and she broke out in the "Thong Song", I could not honestly stay mad Several men here have already verified that it works. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:38 PM
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To each his own. Cringy or not, it's effective
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:27 PM
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I think he's just focusing in on a certain aspect of femininity. In most situations, It's very hard for the average man to stay mad at a woman when she plays childish. Just like it's very hard for a parent to stay mad at child that's doing cute shit Maternal strength is definitely another valid aspect of femininity but it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive from these behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:22 PM
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An overblown tantrum is equally as childish as your example. But I will say that your example would be much more effective for diffusing the average man. Unless she did something unacceptably awful, adorable nonsensical behavior like that does calm us down It's a bit extreme but I wouldn't cringe at it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:14 PM
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Your original comment was about finding "childlike responses" to be cringy. I then said that this type of response is effective at disarming men. Throwing tantrums and pouting about it are a great example of a "childlike response". How is this not relevant to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:50 PM
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It still makes no sense. I already said latinas tend to have fiery tempers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:35 PM
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Not at all. I literally said they're some of the hottest tempers out there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:30 PM
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Yes, game exists and its necessary for all men regardless of their attractiveness. A "hot" guy may need less game than an unattractive one to get laid, but they both require it nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:48 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, there are women with refined social skills. This can manifest itself as the quiet, demure, intelligent woman that knows how to subtly command situations The more bubbly and sweet girl that everybody loves to be around Or the louder, charismatic, more assertive "alpha female" type like Oprah And finally there's the chameleon that acts however she has to accomplish what she wants All of these women use different tactics, but they're all effective at getting what they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:40 AM
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I think most women just like a guy that's taller than she is. The average American womans ideal is probably somewhere in the 6'0 —6'4 range
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:24 AM
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Women can get away with literally almost anything. Unless it's speaking out against women of course
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:21 AM
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Can you say, awkward?! Especially anything involving a shower or standing up 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:14 AM
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I'm a marketer by trade, if you can find the find teachers, the students won't be a problem. There's definitely a market for this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:55 AM
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If he magically popped up today, would you go for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:52 AM
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Am I right that's way easier than messing with tall guys? I'm 6'3" but I prefer short women, usually 5'5" and under I practically had to learn gymnastics to make sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:49 AM
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As someone that grew up in a neighborhood that was primarily 1st and 2nd Gen Latinos, latinas are traditionally some of the POUTIEST, hot tempered women on the planet. This is one of the reasons why they're stereotypically called "spicy" so often
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:42 AM
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Right now. If somebody started a new subreddit would you wanna mod it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:38 AM
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Because it is? It's a scientific fact that men like neotenous features and behavior in women. Outside western countries, you'll see its very common for women to use these tactics. If you've ever been to places like India , Asia, the Middle East, Africa and most parts of Latin America its the norm and not the exception You never wondered why so many latin women frequently say ayyy papi? It sounds kinda childish but it's effective
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:37 AM
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Yepp but I'm sure that happens even if you don't take the RPW approach. An idiot is an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:28 AM
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Nobody ever considers the logistics of large height differences for a lot of stuff. When your close to a foot taller than your partner, just having sex requires you to be a contortionist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:26 AM
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I can confirm
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:21 AM
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What's cringy about being traditionally feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:02 AM
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I don't know why I'd expect them to. At least I got 2
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:00 AM
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If you could do it again, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 03:46 AM
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Slightly "childlike responses" do work wonders on many men. Some of the most seductive women I've ever known use this tactic and I can confirm that it works
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 03:43 AM
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Not gonna lie. Women doing girly shit like that does work for defusing situations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 03:40 AM
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Sounds like you came out on top then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:57 AM
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Of course. That's all it took?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:56 AM
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How did that work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:45 AM
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Lol what or who made you that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:44 AM
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That's a great start even though sex education been prevalent for a while now and 2 of the aforementioned men already went through therapy. One basically spent his entire life in it. I'm not advocating forcing people to sleep with each other, that's equally as unproductive. We've already seen a shift from placing importance on relationships in our generation but I can't see how we could convince an entire generation of men who've never had sex, to downplay it. Something as natural as the desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:43 AM
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I'm not disagreeing. But incel extremists tend commit at least a few murders before they face justice for their actions. It's a dangerous idea waiting to take action after they've already exploded. Just Elliot Rodgers, Scott Beierle and Alek Minassian were responsible for the deaths of 18 innocent people. This was just 3 young men. Imagine if the community of thousands of other young men that idolize these guys decides to take this route. Preventative measures could prevent future disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:09 AM
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It is unacceptable. But people do unacceptable shit all the time when they feel their needs arent being met. People don't need to buy things on Black Friday, but you see how crazy that gets every year Now imagine what a bunch of angry, sexless young men could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:53 AM
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Sex is needed for genetic survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:46 AM
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I still don't think you're getting what I'm saying here. The value of a woman IS NOT equal to the value of her vagina, even though there are many young women that believe this. I'm saying that today, access to female sexuality has become too easy for the top tier of men and extremely difficult for the bottom. It's supply and demand. For example, let's say one group of people walks into stores that gives them water for free whenever they want it. This group of people that gets free water will pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:42 AM
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Was your ex from the hood? IME girls from lower income communities act like this alot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:38 PM
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Be careful man. That's playing with fire
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:17 PM
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Look I don't know you, your situation or what you're going through. But it sounds like you could use a little positive thinking in a time like this. If you can step back, look at the situation you're in objectively, and tell yourself that you TRULY gave your ALL in being a good partner and making the relationship work, then you did all you can do. Everything bad that happens in life can't always be prevented. Sometimes shit just happens. If you can't say you gave it your all, just take it as a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:14 PM
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I gotta hear more details on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 06:49 PM
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I'm glad you're in what sounds like a healthy relationship. But I think you may have misconstrued the meaning of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 06:34 PM
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It's hard to tell but I think it's a bit of both a decent amount of the time. The sentiment I hear a lot seems to be that after years of reflection, some women regret letting certain people go for what was in hindsight a silly reason
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:35 PM
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Yepp, I've never met one of these girls that was actually worth the trouble. Plus basic bitches tend to like basic bros anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:14 PM
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It's crazy how fast it happens. One day they're eating with you at lunch, the next they're in Vegas partying with rappers (True Story)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:10 PM
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Men do seem to deal with more "oneitis" after breakups. When we really care, that shit hurts. Women seem like they mope for 30 minutes and just go to the next guy. But they also seem to tuck away a lot of those feelings until like 20 years later when they just pop up out the blue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:03 PM
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You deserve a High five for having morals
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:58 PM
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Yeah I picked up this trend too. A lot of older women love telling stories about "the guys that got away"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:58 PM
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Lol than who do you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:55 PM
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I don't understand all these weird terms TRP comes up with. Getting stuck on an ex isn't unique to women nor does it have anything to do with an ex being uber masculine. I think a translation for non-pilloshere people would be "the one that got away". It seems like girls don't start feeling that way until years after the fact though In my experience not being able to get over an ex is usually a result of social isolation and low self esteem. Not necessarily depending on the circumstances of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:55 PM
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Same style of makeup same hair same style of clothing. They are all clones of each other. I can't stand that 3 pounds of Instagram makeup I-Wanna-Look-Kim K trend that's so popular nowadays. I really can't tell a lot of these girls apart And natural beauties are the best. A girl doesn't have to be the hottest girl on the planet to be hot. As long as YOU think she's sexy, that's all that really matters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:45 PM
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Oh okay. I gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:11 PM
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I'm not exactly sure tbh with you but it's been documented by a few sources https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/201607/the-narcissism-epidemic-and-what-we-can-do-about-it I think i read that even in US there technically isnt an increase in mass shootings. Ill look that up in a bit though I'd be happy to see your source. As far as I know the numbers are up dramatically. Last year we averaged at least 1 mass shooting a month. This doesn't count incidents where under 4 people died …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:09 PM
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Ohhh so you knowingly Alpha Widowed an ex? That's cold blooded
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:52 PM
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Lol I guess that's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:50 PM
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I'm still not 100% sure tbh with you man. She was so ride or die and was hands down the most supportive women I've ever been with. Whatever I asked for, she'd do it sometimes without asking. Plus the sex was OUTRAGEOUS. But that brand of extra emotionally volatile batshit crazy really fucks with your sanity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:49 PM
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Do you ever think about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:40 PM
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Would you get back with him today?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:40 PM
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I think a lot of people's first relationship is fucked up. I unknowingly caught my first real gf on the rebound and ended up in this weird love quadrangle where she was secretly alternating between me and her first 2 boyfriends. She gave chlamydia to her first bf and probably would have burned me too if a mutual friend didn't tell me what was going on. Best learning experience of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:38 PM
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I'm not sure if the concepts entails being super alpha or just being the strongest love a girl has ever felt. But I am sure there's some incel out there that use that exact excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:31 PM
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Do you have BPD or did she? I dated a girl with that once and it was the craziest 2 years of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:29 PM
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Said that she thinks about me all the time and even at her wedding, she went downstairs and cried because it wasn't me. This is probably the greatest compliment a man could get
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:28 PM
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Yepp
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:27 PM
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I don't hate any of my exes and would gladly recommend them to another woman How does this manifest itself IRL? I only asks because several of my exes will say they don't hate me then will act very passive aggressive and petty when we speak. But they seem to keep the window open. It's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:26 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:22 PM
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You're still young, give it time. But a dude that puts you down in a non teasing way isn't worth the hassle. I've seen situations like that get really toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:04 PM
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Was there no chemistry looking back or are you just really serious about hooking up with an ex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:02 PM
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Damn it sucks your first time around had to be so shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:00 PM
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i dont date men who read Thanks for making me spit out my coffee And let me be more clear. When I said "tortured soul" I meant guys like Kurt Cobain, Nikki Six or Syd Vicious not just some random emo dude. If it wasn't those types I thought you'd be into the hyper macho kind of guy And tbh I did figure you for a more traditional woman. A radical one, but traditional nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:59 PM
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No problem Your Most Hounorable Napkin. On a side note, I'll say that many of these girls aren't very good for the soul. They have a tendency to be incredibly shallow and somewhat narcissistic. You'd be much better off going for the more down to earth, girl next door type beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:49 PM
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Hmm what was so bad about it if you don't mind me asking. Was he a cheater or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:31 PM
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You can't tell me that guy doesnt look like he smokes cigar on his Harley...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:28 PM
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Alpha exhaustion? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:25 PM
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Lol what about the first guy you really fell in love with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:24 PM
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I think they're relatively common but they tend to frequent very exclusive places. The most beautiful women tend to realize their appeal early on and leverage this to live more extravagant lifestyles. These kind of girls usually date ball players, lawyers, doctors, musicians and other high paid / high powered men so regular people don't see them as often. They also get taken off the market pretty frequently so you have a somewhat small window to catch them You'll notice tons of beautiful women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:20 PM
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In what way(s), if you don't mind me asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:08 PM
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Lol it was a joke. But I don't think I've met somebody that shares your peculiar takes on topics irl so I'm having trouble visualizing the type of guy that'd be Mr. Atlas
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:39 PM
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Huh, you really had me fooled I'm guessing you're more into the Harley-riding, cigar-smoking chemists out there then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:21 PM
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Nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:17 PM
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This is hilariously true. But in my experience, this doesn't usually work out in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:16 PM
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I didn't. Shes just acting like it's something that never happens, which is factually not true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:54 PM
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My concern is primarily the amount of young men being pushed out of the dating market. A bunch of young guys with no romantic prospects has proven to be dangerous historically
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:52 PM
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Men and women are mainly getting more progressive together. Reddit maybe gives you a wrong idea but modern guys are not that different than modern girls - both are less traditional, questioning whether and when to have kids, more individualistic and looking for personal growth (career, travel etc), have meaningful bonds with friends and are ok alone... I read somewhere that this generation coming up now has actually gotten more conservative, so we'll see how that turns. And while I don't mind pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:50 PM
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Are we really that economically insecure though? The rise of the internet has created tons of avenues to make good money with way less work than it used to take
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:33 PM
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What I’m surprised about is that there hasn’t really been any corresponding social effort to encourage marital sex and discourage premarital or extramarital sex. As I feel that if people could abide by these simple behaviors, the mental health of this nation would improve drastically. The west has definitely become a free for all when it comes to sex. Contraceptives have allowed us to work around the biological function that sex is for. We're constantly trying to prove to ourselves that living c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:30 PM
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Some people have evolved beyond having the desire to duplicate their genes (which is animal instinct) and have realized that reproduction won’t make them happy. A decreased birth rate is likely to decrease the drain on the earth’s resources. I don't think you can evolve past a biologically necessary function. Until cloning is a thing, people will always need to reproduce. If we’re going down the route of ideal family structures, only people who are upper middle class and over should have kids be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:24 PM
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A little help is a good thing. I just don't stand by people staying on the system for life unless they have a very debilitating handicap
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:13 PM
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Birth Rates being under death is proven to be have impacts on social and economic aspects of society. A surplus of single mothers is proven to have negative effects on society. A large amount of men with no romantic prospects has proven to be outright dangerous. It's not really an emerging trend, these statistics have been on the way up for years now. And I have absolutely no idea how society will adapt to these things. That's why I asked the people of PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:11 PM
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It's funny, I always pegged you for the type thats into a "tortured soul" nihilist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 11:57 AM
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Lol I meant a money hoarder. Ironically, from what I've seen from watching Hoarders, most of them are terrible with money
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:16 AM
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I check for a girls financial stability. She doesn't have to have a high powered career but she does have to be a hoarder like me. I'm a pretty frugal guy and I don't mind spoiling a girl when she deserves it but I also don't want somebody that expects shopping sprees every week. Compulsive spenders are a no-no for me. Plus if I die, I want to make sure her and the kids will be set and she won't just burn through all our savings on dumb shit Oprah could still get it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:47 AM
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I agree. I'm just here for the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:39 AM
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Being called a fuckboy is almost the same as when a girl says you got a lil dick after a breakup. Whatever you are was good enough for her while you were together but now that you're not, everything about you suddenly becomes shit Shaming Tactics 101
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:08 AM
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Shes just fame right now, Kris Jenner is a modern entrepreneur. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:37 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:56 PM
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Careers in porn are notable for their longevity and the positive effects on the lives of the girls who do it Is this sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:53 PM
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It's not something I had to look up, I assumed it would be common knowledge on a subreddit like PPD. And considering that any society who's birthrate falls below it's death rate faces several social and economic pitfalls, yes I would say it supports my theory. This is why places like Italy have literally started to incentivize people to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:27 PM
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It's higher. It was 1 in 10 in the 1970s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:51 PM
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"It's not just a generational thing either. Birth rates amongst women in their twenties declined by 15 per cent between 2007 and 2012 and one in five women enter menopause without children, according to a US study." It's from a UK publication but is based on a US study
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:46 PM
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Basically, the women who feel as though they could never be happy and fulfilled without marriage are women who will likely settle down with someone who might not tick all the boxes but “works”. I think it's safe to say that nobody can tick everybodies boxes. Women are beginning to enjoy sex more than they enjoy men. As women move away from the home and toward the boardroom, they’re just less inclined to date and marry. It's funny because these women are also handicapping their children by choosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:43 PM
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It's an extreme example but the Nazis were once a small subset of people. Look how that turned out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:37 PM
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I never said anything about pills in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:30 PM
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There you go: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/childless-women-on-rise-more-than-ever-before-fertility-crisis-menopause-career-study-reveals-a7882496.html
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:29 PM
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Yeah I guess she could be a donkey that comes with no ice cream
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:23 PM
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True. But that's a topic for another post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:12 PM
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I love watching her videos. She's so honest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:22 AM
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Rule #1 - Never take a girl on date that isn't Free. 99 unless you've already made out with her at least
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:17 AM
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Conversational skills, grooming, artistic talents, income earning, vocal clarity, humor, physique, style etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:01 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:45 AM
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There's still a good amount of women IRL and on social media that are vocal supporters of traditional gender roles. It seems like non-traditional women make it their business to rip these women apart
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:41 AM
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Women can literally do whatever they want. It seems like they were happier filling traditional gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:32 AM
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Then why are women getting more and more miserable while men have basically stayed the same? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:19 AM
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That is HIGHLY unusual. I say that as someone who went to college, had plenty of girl friends, and was in a sorority. None of them dated or had sex with anyone beyond his 20's. None of my friends are attracted to men that old. My dad is admittedly an extreme case but maybe you and your girlfriends are more prudish than the average girls your age? He's far from the only older guy I know that consistently bags younger women Yeah, that sounds pretty judgey to me. My family tree isn't dying with me,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:36 AM
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This only works upon the condition that the guy is relatively young (18-early 30's) and at least decently fit/attractive. The older a guy gets, the less likely he is to get casual sex from anyone. Not true. A socially aware man who takes decent care of his self will still get laid pretty easily. My dad is 64 and still gets his fair share of (free) non committal sex. Sometimes even with girls not much older than me. I'm in my mid 20s. The fact that most women who want casual sex are also young (c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:52 AM
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Single mother stats: https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/ And I never said all men stopped wanting to have children. You could argue women have this urge as well. But it doesn't stop the fact that that many people just don't want kids anymore. Mic wrote an article about the growing number of women / men opting out of parenting a few years back. The number of women opting out of parenthood has doubled since 1970 and the trend continues: https://www.mic.com/articles/123051/why-m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:31 AM
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Being attractive just gives people more chances to fuck up and more chances to perfect their social skills. Even attractive had to learn how to be attractive enough to get consistent one night stands
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:43 AM
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(Whenever I see a post about "casual sex whenever you want" like this on PPD, I assume the guy has spent the last 5 hours beating-off to porn and is now in some post-masturbation depression 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:41 AM
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If only there was a council of men that could actually get us to do this, that'd be great. But there's not so idk how we could show enough cohesion to make this work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:30 AM
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All things considered, most guys would probably prefer the hot boring girl over either of those
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:27 AM
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Yes things can go in both directions. The only difference for Millennials and Gen Z is that now there are large online support systems for whatever you believe in. Plus you have the loss of societal shaming about most things. If you're an incel there's groups for you to commiserate and reinforce your ideas that "life sucks and I'll never get laid" If you're a single mother in your 30s/40s there's plenty of groups out there to reinforce the "you go girl, men are so trash" mentality Before the int…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:25 AM
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I know plenty of 19/20 year old girls 99.9% of the time, no 19/20 old is a career anything. You're still figuring out who you are at that age. And the average age of marriage has been steadily rising for years. With lower overall rates of marriage, this trend is guaranteed to continue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:07 AM
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We have a word for this. It's called simping. For a man with access, pussy is worthless. A good woman, on the other hand is priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 12:49 AM
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I would agree for the most part. However, I'm not sure if it's society beating "Be a slut not a housewife" into their heads rather their sexuality is progressively being unchained by values that used to limit it. Some women go to the extreme and some to a lesser degree. Without proper statistics I'm not sure what the majority is yet but it's hard to ignore. Yepp we agree. A good society is one that builds on our best instincts and surpresses the negative ones. This is why most guys aren't just g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 12:46 AM
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No strings attached sex is easy to come by No, it isn't. Yes it is, I have plenty of firsthand experience. Sex can be had with just a few texts or messages pretty often. Sometimes you don't even need that Why does that make someone "not relationship material"? Don't conflate my statements about a woman being relationship and a woman not wanting to have kids. For me, a woman but wanting kids is an instant disqualifier but that certainly doesn't mean all men feel the same way. Relationship Materia…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 12:31 AM
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Sex and Relationships are marketplaces. The currency just isn't always monetary. In theory, I don't think women having sexual freedom is a bad thing. But the concept is still being tested in reality and it seems to be devolving into hedonism. Historically, large amounts of hedonism never works for society. Just look at any once great civilization, hedonism almost always comes right before the fall
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 11:47 PM
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Okay gotcha. I think using the word sociopath threw me off. Being a sociopath probably helps with manipulating women for getting what you want but I dont think it's necessary or desirable in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 11:01 PM
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I actually think legalize prostitution would be a good thing. It'd only be a band aid on the problem but it couldn't hurt. There's already tons of easy women, cam girls, porn stars, strippers, Instagram "models" and escorts anyway. The value of female sexuality can't go much lower What do you think a SMP crash would look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:58 PM
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Well I have a vested interest in society because sex isn't my endgame. Raising prospering kids is. We have plenty of examples of financial markets crashing and their after effects but I can't imagine what a sexual market crash would entail. And you're 100% right about small groups snowballing into large movements. Historically, thats how 99% of balls get to rolling. But nobody takes things seriously until shit hits the fan
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:54 PM
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Of course I want to. The only reason I was born was to make something of myself so I can knock some girl up and give our children the best lives I can. To do anything else is pissing on the grave of all the men and women who lived and died so I could even be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:49 PM
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It takes a village to raise a child and most of America is not a village. We're just a bunch of people that happen to live by each other. I don't trust a daycare to raise my child. Shit I don't even trust all my family members to babysit. And current marital laws have been around for a while now but men getting divorce raped only started spiking in the last few decades. It's not the system per se that's the problem. It's the women that were raised to purposefully abuse it. On top of child rearin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:17 PM
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I can't understand why people can't see that this will probably have long reaching affects on society
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:02 PM
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but I see this as basically being the roaring 20's before the great depression. Great analogy, that's exactly what I was getting at. I don't blame women for enjoying their time in the sun but it feels like they're lowering their overall value for the types of guys they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:00 PM
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I don't think I can agree with this. For a woman that's high value enough, its worth it for a man to learn how to alternate between alpha / beta traits. The only problem is finding the right mixture to keep things going smoothly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:56 PM
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I'm glad somebody else can see it from this angle. Would you agree that there are a few woman still worth a relationship but that society seems to ingrain values into young women that aren't appealing to a man that wants a LTR but has the option to be selective? Not even accounting for the potential legal and financial implications of actually committing to a woman and it just not working out. Todays SMP has created a bunch of desirable men that don't care and "undesirable" men that care too muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:52 PM
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As apart of that community, the parallels are striking. Sometimes it feels like we were used as a test case for major societal changes. From the epidemic of opioids and single mothers down to the archetypal "strong independent woman that don't need no man" . Everything that's happening in the Anglosphere of dating right now already happened to black people. And we see how that all worked out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:37 PM
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You actually put this better than I could, thank you. Just like wealth is disproportionately concentrated in a small portion of the population, so is sexual opportunity (for men). While there's more more men not having sex, there's some men have more sex than ever. This just seems like a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:29 PM
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I suppose I can't speak for all men. But I will say that if STDs weren't a thing and I didn't have a moral or financial obligation to raise any resulting kids, I'd be rawdogging 70-80% of women who throw it at me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:24 PM
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Planet Ohio. Plenty of girls are pretty aggressive about giving it up nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:18 PM
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Great response. I think "prison bae" is a pretty good example of this. You had tons of women throwing themselves at him just because of a good mugshot picture knowing nothing of his personality or his ability to provide. That's basically todays dating market in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:17 PM
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Plenty of dudes will. I try to have standards but most women that don't seem like trouble can get it. I'm not super picky about the women I have casual sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:08 PM
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I don't know why so many people can't see this. Plenty of girls don't even need to be courted nowadays before putting out and lots have a pretty aggressive attitude towards sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:01 PM
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Seems like the only thing I can do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:56 PM
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No I'm pointing out actual trends in the dating scene and speculating on the potential outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:43 PM
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No it's just easy a lot of the time. Trust me, some men just have to show up and we will get laid. Some women don't even beat around the bush and will straight up ask for sex. It happens. And I never said dating doesn't happen either. I just said most modern aren't LTR material. For me at least I don't even know how you came to this conclusion so I'll skip it Whatever you're definition of most is, it's not enough to keep our numbers up. Outside of mine and a few other ethnic communities, the bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:39 PM
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As a 6 digit earner, I can't say why a lot of RP guys don't want a career woman. I personally don't want one because I make enough money as is so I'd prefer a SAHM type with maybe a side hustle or two. If I'm working 40+ hours a week and you're working 40+ hours a week, who will take care of the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:21 PM
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Plenty of people are still having sex, This was literally one of the first lines of my post. Sex isn't hard to come by. If anything my point was sex is so easy to come by as a high value man that it destroys the female mystique. If I can get laid by doing nothing, why even risk commitment? On the flip side of this, it seems a lot guys can't get laid for the life of them. I'm just wondering how that will work out There were 2 million marriages in the US last year. Marriage and birth rates are sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:17 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:04 PM
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I never said the sky was falling. I'm just pointing out some interesting things going on out there and wondering what happens next And I'm assuming you're in the 40-50 range. Dating isn't completely different from your youth but there are some huge differences for someone in their 20s now that previous generations never had to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:03 PM
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That's always an option. But as a black guy, small town America tends to come with its own set of problems. My solution has been to date 1st or second gen immigrants from ethnic communities or girls from religious families that aren't zealots. Family seems to be valued higher among these communities and that's my biggest thing. My last gf was 2nd Gen Palestinian and that lasted for most of 10 years
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 07:56 PM
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This is what I'm alluding to, sorry if I wasn't clear enough. Some guys can't get laid, while some of us end up feeling like robber barons. It doesn't feel like something that can last forever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 07:44 PM
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Not sure what you mean but the Wolf of Wall Street is one of my favorite movies of all time. Right next to Scarface
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 07:37 PM
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I struggle with this too man, it doesn't help that girls in our age range love guys with beards now Your best bet is probably hitting the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 11:08 PM
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I intentionally NEVER string a girl along like this. Not only is it shitty on a moral level but it destroys a "good girls" faith in men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 11:04 PM
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But they're soooo expensive. People go into debt because it's like a class thing. They compete over who has the biggest wedding. Tell me about it man. Through my whole last relationship I couldn't stop thinking "How tf am I going to pay for this wedding?? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 11:01 PM
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The stuff you see on the internet isn't confined to the internet. It always bleeds into real life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 10:34 PM
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Are you talking about the niqah or the walimah? The niqahs are usually pretty low key but the walimahs I've seen are HUGE events. They put western weddings to shame
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 10:36 AM
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Not really. They just used terms that already applied to the general concept of social hierarchy in the animal kingdom and adjusted them for use with human social behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:30 PM
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It's difficult to tell where anything comes from in an internet based community but in practice, the term is nearly always linked to the animal kingdom Here's a link to one of the most prominent RP commentators speaking on Alphas: https://therationalmale.com/2014/11/02/alpha-tells/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:53 PM
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Have you ever been to a church? I'm not religious but I've never been to a church where the pastor wasn't treated like a rockstar by the female congregation Google "pastor sleeping with" and see what pops up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:46 PM
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This wasn't to compare behavior between humans and chimps even though we do share many similarities in some areas http://www.personal.psu.edu/afr3/blogs/SIOW/2011/12/behavioral-similarities-between-humans-chimps-and-apes.html My reply was to the commenter who said that the terms alpha and beta were stolen from "pop culture" which is not true. I just shared a link from a scientific source to highlight the fact that scientists have been using the terms for a while now in reference to the social hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:42 PM
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It's already started
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:10 PM
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Relationship sex is THE best sex. The combination of the deeper intimacy and comfort along with knowing each other's bodies and turn ons makes for explosive lovemaking. Plus you can actually finish inside a girl you're dating without freaking out. Just that moment is almost better than the orgasm itself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 09:48 PM
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I don't know how to get women to admit these things. Even behind completely anonymity, women here won't confess to anything As far as dating is concerned, it's always a risk but it really just depends on what you're looking for. There's no such thing as a perfect but high quality women that are high in loyalty do exist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:09 PM
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I'm surprised they didn't get me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:03 PM
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I never thought a comment involving T-Pain and TRP could make so much sense. Kudos
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:02 PM
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It's like pulling teeth getting women to admit this type of stuff. Even in a completely anonymous and accepting place like PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:01 PM
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I gotcha, I can understand that. I don't think I've met a girl before who cared about a guy's number unless he was adding them up while they were together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:59 PM
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You're gonna have to give some examples for this one. Virtually all men have some types of female characteristics just like most women have some male ones. So I'd like to know what you consider a "feminine" man. Cuz it sounds like you're just describing the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:12 PM
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Men devised/labeled a strategy based on biology. It works because of biology. I don't know what you're trying to prove by co signing my point. your framing of semantics is counter to the norm (most people would not conclude biology created it) Many people argue that sex and love itself isn't a function of biology. That doesn't mean it isn't If it's not something you care to debate/defend, don't make it your title. I took the time to debate you on it didn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:05 PM
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rely on vast generalization based on the experiences of whoever happens to be writing. No, TRP ideology relies on the collective experiences of men in general and what has worked with women across time and cultures. Your books would not be the same thing. Since they rely solely on your individual methods to succeed instead of what has consistently worked for all men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:34 PM
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using knowledge of female sexual nature that transcends culture, and the strategy has worked throughout history even before it was called "Red Pill". That's not what your OP says though. "Now, I'm not saying women created the term itself or the ideology. They inadvertently created it as by product of their own nature. I don't think there's one woman on the planet from any time, culture or religion that isn't attracted to the core of what TRP teaches if its applied correctly." That's literally wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:25 PM
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So you want a guy that's as close to virginal as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:54 PM
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Either way you accomplish the same thing. The knowledge itself is what's important, not the label or community
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:53 PM
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Fair. But TRP itself never asserts that an Alpha holds his position in every situation just because he's him. Interestingly enough, the average woman is highly attracted to men with positions like King, President, Pastor and any other position of leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:51 PM
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Connecting those dots forms the conclusion: RP strategy works. NOT the conclusion "women created RP inadvertantly as a byproduct of their nature". Correction. Connecting those dots forms the conclusion: RP strategy works across cultural norms and preferences DESPITE their differences. If Italian women rewarded behaviors in another country 300 years ago, American women rewarded those behaviors 50 years ago, and modern women reward those behaviors today in every country. It can be assumed, that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:41 PM
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Let's just wish for the best. A society more feminized than the one we already live in is terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:24 AM
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Considering our closest relatives are chimpanzees and bonobos, using an article from a scientific study that defines another monkeys social hierarchy with alpha / Beta terms isn't a stretch. There's a million more examples out there in scientific literature if you look. Point is, the sciences have used Alpha / Beta to describe social hierarchies for different animals for a long time now. And have you never heard women play Fuck, Marry, Kill? They literally make a game of categorizing men. Just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:21 AM
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She seemed satisfied with my summary. Do you need more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:56 AM
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Yeah there's a huge spread between what the guys said and what the girls had to say. That's generally how this type of conversation goes. Men and Women inherently see things differently most of the time. The truth is usually somewhere in between. Plus many people rationalize the behavior of their in-group. Men make excuses for men, women make excuses for women, racists make excuses for racists. It's just human nature Women see their friends as these loving, caring comrades who would never betray…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:50 AM
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Men move more independently in our relationships. We may advise our friends on a million things but it's up to them to take the advice. And a moms interest in your life is generally a very special thing. You spend your first 9 months of existence in her stomach. You're literally half of her DNA. There should be nobody else on the planet who has a greater incentive to see you succeed than your mom It doesn't always work out that way, but that's how it should be
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:37 AM
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So we're talking social skills here. Nothing else. And I'd agree men with social skills know what red pill dudes have to fake if they want to get laid. All that without the sort of misogyny that is rampant around TRP. Exactly. It's the social skills that TRP teaches that make it valuable. The knowledge itself isn't misogynistic, it's some of the angry jaded men that make up its community that propagate that image. Like how feminists communities tend to be very misandric doesn't mean that women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:30 AM
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You gotta wonder what these women will teach their sons
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:24 AM
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You're one of the exceptions to the rule apparently. The vast majority of women don't want a feminine dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:05 AM
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I can agree with that, neither sex is better or worse. We just are what we are. But the basis of the RP never says to demonize women just like the original basis of feminism wasn't about demonizing men. Or how the Bible never said to do inappropriate shit to kids but priests do it anyway. You can't always blame the belief for some of shitty people that believe in it. A bunch of bad apples will rot the whole bunch eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:58 AM
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Anyone can connect these dots to form the basis of a conclusion. Look, if something worked for a modern man in Brazil A black man from Chicago in the 70s An Italian man from the 1700s And virtually every other man who was known for his skills with women in history Then that something has a proven track history of working. So far, you've provided zero facts, details, science or even anecdotes to refute this. Keep trying though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:52 AM
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That's pretty ominous bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:43 AM
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That's like saying that the early punk, rock, blues or rap music scenes (which were all counterculture at their respective times) were cohesive groups which is as history shows us, is way off from the truth. The Manosphere is known for constant in-fighting and the seperate sections almost never agree on anything except the core of TRP. And since you openly admitted that feminists / BP thought is more prevalent, you've already proven my point. Finally, I haven't even posted any links so you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:43 AM
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"Now, I'm not saying women created the term itself or the ideology. They inadvertently created it as by product of their own nature. I don't think there's one woman on the planet from any time, culture or religion that isn't attracted to the core of what TRP teaches if its applied correctly." Examples #1 & 2: Nobody said Iceberg or Casanova invented TRP. I made this clear in the OP. Example #3: I'm not Chad, I'm Tyrone. You could at least get that straight. Read the OP and come back harder. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:14 AM
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Well women fear being abused by men. It doesn't stop anything as long as somebody is willing to try
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:49 AM
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Not true, science has used alpha / Beta to describe social hierarchies for a while now https://science.sciencemag.org/content/333/6040/357.abstract
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:48 AM
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I'm not even RP, I'd describe myself as a Purple Pill guy. I just solidly believe in the core tenets of what make up TRP. And nobody is talking about "field reports", that's the type of garbage PUAs believe in. I'm talking about the piles of scientific studies conducted by real scientists that says women tend to display certain behaviors and generally prefer the same make behaviors that TRP says they do. I could literally spend all day just sending you links from actual universities and private …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:43 AM
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Many people paint the TRP in a bad light because it's usually conflated with the entire manosphere. By wanting an experienced guy with options, you more or less want a RP man. Unless you're rich, look like a model or hyper talented, the BP just won't work for any extended amount of time. This is actually how most RP men find TRP nowadays. This is also why jaded can be used to describe almost any man that's dealt with enough women. Even the ones that were "naturally" more successful. Most adults …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:27 AM
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No we just fear the repercussions of commitment, not the act itself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:18 AM
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No it absolutely is not, it’s a philosophy, a series of mental perspectives and practices, if it was as reliable as math there would be no incels. Science - the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. If TRP core doesn't fit this definition, I don't know what does. Also, incels fail because they didn't apply the knowledge from the core of TRP. I could tell somebody a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:15 AM
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Yepp definitely, but that's the Manospheres fault, not TRP cores
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:02 AM
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Alpha / Beta are just terms TRP stole from science, but the ideas behind them ring true. Women want a dominant man who will also provide for her and her kids, I don't think the dual mating strategy is really up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:58 AM
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Nothing about TRP says a guy CAN'T be monogamous. It just says that an abundance mentality will keep the oneitis away
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:51 AM
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Not necessarily. It's more along the lines adjusting your level of dominance for the person in question. Some girls like a more commanding type guy that's more like "Hey make me a sammich woman!" Other girls like you prefer a bit more finesse and less forcefulness so they'd probably respond better to "Hey babe, you'd look sexy making me a sandwich right now" Both guys get their sandwiches and both girls were happy to make them. It's a win/win It's probably a bad example but I can't think of anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:48 AM
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Yes and no. TRP often glazes over individual preferences but dealing with women who share your taste is covered
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:39 AM
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Do you like feminine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:36 AM
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They like to claim traits and behaviors that are definitely by and large attractive to women (dominance, confidence, masculinity, etc) are necessarily red pill. And it’s true that red pill does preach those qualities. Although of course those qualities are not in and of themselves some sort of TRP-only revelation. Whatever school you learned something at, you still learned it. RP thought has plenty of "schools" around it that all usually agree on the core concepts, but differ on what should be d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:42 AM
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Feel free to give it up then. In practice, it's more of an art but the thought process behind it relies on simple field tested science
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:27 AM
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Women like confidence and want to be impressed by a man. They are hypergamous This one sentence describes like 1/4th of TRP. Keep in mind we're talking about the ideology itself and not the community around it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:22 AM
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I think the levels of both are roughly the same, it's just about how it manifest itself IRL. A Sigma could be equally as dominant and confident as the Alpha but he doesn't feel the need to constantly affirm this in a social environment by being the loudest guy in the room
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:20 AM
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Right, no true Scotsman, it works 100% of the time all the time unless you’re doing it wrong, in which case that’s because you weren’t a true RP. If you add 1 + 1, the answer will always be 2 if done correctly. If you internalize and exhibit behaviors that are considered attractive by women, you'll be attractive to more women. It's a simple equation, you do the work right and you'll get the desired result. Your problem is confirmation bias mixed with not understanding that a dozen other world vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:16 AM
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If TRP is simply the sum of actions and attitudes then you are correct, women have always had the huge power of sexual selection to drive the species. TRP is a name given to the collective of successful strategies used by men. Before TRP, it was just called having game. And I agree that women seem to have hatred torward men that (attempt to) learn game from the internet compared to IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:59 AM
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Are you introverted? If you are, you've probably always been more attracted to Sigma types. In my experience, we make a better match in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:53 AM
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Incels are black pill which is a defeatist ideology made up of people that lacked the grit and self confidence that makes TRP work. Nobody with internalized confidence could ever be incel. Even short, ugly, poor guys can get laid with game and confidence. She might not be a Sports Illustrated model but he can get some nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:51 AM
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It's just an example of cause and effect. And this thread started with somebody comparing TRP / Attraction with Dams and Water. I'm just keeping the ball rolling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:46 AM
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Feel free man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:43 AM
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I don't understand what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:43 AM
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In laymen terms, a sigma is just a quieter, more introverted and isolated version of the alpha. The type of guy that commands respect without saying much and generally avoids social groups. He's the "mysterious" guy that girls want Think Keanu Reeves from the Matrix or John Wick. Or Clint Eastwood in basically everything he's ever played in
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:41 AM
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The difference is that no religious norms can consistently and concretely produce a desired result. The RP core on the other hand will always get the result of getting laid if its TRULY applied correctly. This is across cultures and religions And I can understand how it might not be sexy to find out HOW a man became successful with women, just like it's generally not sexy to find out how a girl got so good in bed. Some things are better left a mystery But the fact is that however they learned, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:35 AM
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If I stepped on a landmine, the resulting explosion is a response to me stepping on it. But it was still ultimately the landmine that caused the explosion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:20 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:17 AM
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It's a lot to summarize in one post but at it's core, TRP is just a system of beliefs and behaviors that emulate Alphas / Sigmas in an attempt to replicate their success with women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 01:16 AM
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