IHAQ Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
11	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study.		IHAQ	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:19 PM
0	Crowd of 300 women sexually assault 3 men in Tahrir Square.		IHAQ	/r/MensRights	26/11/12 03:21 AM

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–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence Do you really think people in African war zones care what some stupid white Americans think? What? That response doesn't make sense. 1) I don't think that the staff of the commissioning orgainzation is very white, stupid, or American 2) I didn't say anything about convincing Africans of anything 3) I'm pointing out that it's absurd to claim that 3/4 of the male population of a country, or even 1/3, is clinically insane. If you believe that all perpetrators or supporters of GBV are clinically ins…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:41 PM
–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence They're all DV cases. A shooting is a shooting. However, if a parent shoots their child, the case takes on a whole different set of problems. Or if the child is an infant. Same if the child shoots their parent. Or a child shoots another child. Or if the person who got shot was attacking the other person. Or robbing the other person. Why would they rob them? Were they poor, or just mean? Do they live in a wealthy area, or a poor one? If it's a poor one, could it be gang related? What motivated th…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:37 PM
–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence First, supplying me with a source for the definition is about a worthwhile as supplying me with a definition of racism that excludes whites as possible victims. They're all bigots or ignorant. The source is the UN, so... figured that the international consensus on the issue would be pretty legitimate. But fine, whatever. How exactly is the violence different when it's male on female vs female on male? My personal stance is that they're exactly the same, but I'm willing to hear a counter argument…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:30 PM
–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence What on earth makes you think that? You think that every DV case is the same? That they're all committed for the same reasons, and can be handled with the same response, regardless of who commits it against whom, where it's committed, how wealthy the parties are, the races of the parties, the nature of the relationship? I thought it was pretty obvious that those are all important factors. In Disney movies, heroically talking down to criminals makes them realize the error of their ways. In real l…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:23 PM
–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence Not it does not. Crazy people are crazy and should be dealt with accordingly. Missed this bit. This statement assumes that all men (or people) that perpetrate or believe that sexual violence is O.K. are crazy. That simply isn't true. Take a look at this, for example: a study in the Congo found that 1/3 of men admit to perpetrating assault, and that 3/4 believe that if a woman is dressed provocatively, she deserves or even wants to be raped. Do you really think that 33.3% of the male DRC populati…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:16 PM
-15	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence So when a woman beats her boyfriend or husband it's not gender based violence? What is it exactly? Domestic violence and misandry. There isn't enough scholarly thought on men's issues to have assigned a term like GBV, which is a problem in and of itself. DV is DV, but it takes on different contexts and effects based on who perpetrates it against whom for what reasons. I have no obligation to pick fights with violent men. When you interrupt violent men while they are trying to perform violent act…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:05 PM
–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence What a load of horseshit. If that's your definition of gender-based violence, you're a goddamn idiot. That's not my definition, that is the definition. Also, you may be illiterate, because the poster was clearly talking about violence by men against women. They don't mention other men other than "gays". No concern in the other 9 piles of shit. The title does not say "Sexual Violence." It says "Gender-based violence." I'm not disputing that the poster is talking about violence by men against wome…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 08:00 PM
–	10 Things Men can do to Prevent Gender Violence There was a paper showing 10 ways men can prevent sexual violence, the paper completely targets men as the sole perpetrators of rape,domestic abuse, and sexual assault. Um, the paper is titled "10 Ways that Men can prevent Gender-based violence." Gender-based violence refers to the perpetration of the crimes that you mention by traditional genders against nontraditional genders, categorized as such because their occurrence is linked to systemic cultural beliefs and attitudes about gender. The pa…	/r/MensRights	06/11/12 07:24 PM
3	/pol/ Rape Analogy (X-Post /r/4chan) Saying that "it can be reasonably expected at some point" acts as if rape is some uncontrollable force of nature that you have to prepare against, like having an umbrella for a storm. The problem with that mentality is that, when someone comes back inside after being rained on, it's absurd to say to them "It shouldn't have rained on you." Instead, we say "You should have brought an umbrella." But rape isn't a force of nature; it's bad people making conscious decisions to do harm. It's selfish pe…	/r/MensRights	05/11/12 03:33 PM
–	There have been too many love children born of a condom that, oops, had a hole poked in it to make that "mistake." "You'd be amazed," says a former Fly Girl I met in Houston, "how many women I know who actually do that. Because let's face it, if you get pregnant, your life is made." You think that rapists rape because they want sex? Male rapists, generally speaking, rape because they feel entitled. 9 times out of 10, a rapist will have perfectly consensual sex. It's that one time that their partner doesn't consent, however, where they'll believe that they have the right to take it anyway. These people especially believe that women owe men sex if the man has bought drinks, paid for the date, or if the woman has been flirting or consenting to other sexual activity, or if the …	/r/MensRights	05/11/12 03:23 PM
12	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. Difference there is that the black person isn't performing any sort of action - he's just being black. Your comfort simply cannot be provided for. That's called a phobia, and you need counseling. Try again.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 10:24 PM
15	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. It's not a woman's comfort, it's a human being's comfort. How is that not some sort of infinite social good? You should try to actively avoid saying things that make other people feel threatened. If a gentleman caller wishes to interact with a lady, first he must offer his calling card to her chaperone and wait with eyes down cast until she allows him to speak to her. Not sure what this load of bullshit is, but it isn't what anyone here is talking about.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 10:13 PM
8	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. Like I said to the other guy, human communication is not simple. And yeah, if there's a chance that what you're about to say could make another person feel threatened, you just shouldn't say anything. Edit: Of course, I'd like to think that most socially capable men are able to talk to people without doing any of the things that I mentioned. It's not that hard. Just be polite and respectful.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 09:21 PM
1	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Your logic here appears to be that any factual claim by anyone about anything can be proven wrong simply by some other person making another claim regardless of any evidence for either claim. No, my logic is that you're making a sweeping generalization about a group of people while at the same time decrying a sweeping generalization about another. My logic is that you shouldn't make sweeping generalizations. Justify what you're saying. That's my point.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 09:18 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. No, you're putting words in mouths. Calm down. The fact that the bias was unanimous and uncontested suggests that it's institutional, and not an active effort on the part of men against women, or on part of women against women.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 09:08 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Male and female teachers surveyed displayed statistically similar levels of bias against female applicants, in that they were less likely to say that they'd be hired in the first place, assigned them a lower starting salary and level of competence, and were less willing to offer career counseling to them. You believe that all of that is explained by men being taught by the evil feminists that they shouldn't be alone with a female student? And that the low ratings 1) in every other category and 2…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 09:03 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. I think quotas are not the solution - I just think that there is a problem that requires a solution.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:51 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. There was a debriefing. They were asked why the decisions that they made were made. They said it was based on competence. They were asked if they were comfortable with the results being shared. They said yes. What am I misunderstanding?	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:51 PM
1	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. No, I'm pointing out that your accusations against feminism are flawed. I know plenty of feminists who have a very holistic view on gender equality, one that falls in line with everything that the modern Men's Rights Movement, from my understanding of it. Just as I'm sure that there are many MRA's that hold belief systems that fall in line with modern feminism. What you're doing, however, is claiming that everyone who identifies as a feminist is a member of a hate group and wants to see systemic…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:48 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. The results were based on competence, and when debriefed, the subjects said that the results were ones that they'd comfortably share with the "students." There was a debriefing and they were all comfortable with the reviews that they give, believing them to be based on competence and nothing more.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:45 PM
1	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. They suggested a likely salary that the person deserved. They made that selection based purely on merit; factors such as how much money they had to offer, or what lab they were applying to, or what the funding of the lab was, or the number of other staff members, or the past salaries of past managers for that lab, etc. were not relevant because they weren't actually hiring. Btw the mentoring is less for women because male teachers are often advised to never get too close to women for fear of bei…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:39 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. It would be interesting to see the actual study instead of the abstract. Full study can be found by clicking "Full Report" on the left. Here's the link. http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/09/14/1211286109.full.pdf+html	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:36 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Feminists are not interested in sex equality, they are a hate movement that promotes female supremacy and sex segregation through attacking men. The same has been said about the MRM. You are equating "men and women" with "MRAs and feminists". How so? I'm saying that men and women are discriminated against because of their gender. Then, in a separate clause, I'm saying that those who consider themselves activists (MRA's and Feminists) should work together to end these discrimination. No false equ…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:33 PM
5	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. Human communication is not a simple matter. Of course there is a lot of nuance. If you say "nice dress" with a tone of voice and body language that imply you're talking about something else? Sure, it's focusing on sexuality. If you say nice dress in a tone of voice and body language that imply genuine interest in the dress itself? Then no, it's about the dress. If the compliment about the suit is "you look sexy in that suit" or "that suit shows off your ass" or is accompanied by the body languag…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:26 PM
1	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. But only engaging women because you want to have sex with them? Lots wrong with that.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 08:05 PM
2	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. You're kidding me. That's frankly sickening. Did you know that men and women can be platonic friends too? Like, that a guy and a girl can have a lot in common and talk and be friends WITHOUT wanting to have sex with one another, or with one wanting to have sex with the other? Did you know that two strangers can have a conversation as HUMAN BEINGS, not as man-pursuing-woman? Women aren't pieces of meat. Stop looking at them like pieces of meat.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:58 PM
-6	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. Because women should be receptive to every man who might decide to compliment them, right? They should never read or listen to their ipod for fear that they might offend some poor man who wants nothing more in life than to genuinely tell her that she's pretty? Fuck those girls for wanting to be left alone, ever.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:54 PM
1	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. So you really only talk to women if you want to have sex with them? Not because they're human beings with stories and experiences and values and knowledge? It's no wonder that you're still a virgin. Sex isn't the point of interactions with a female. It's a byproduct of a healthy relationship, which encompasses a whole bunch of other things that you clearly don't give a damn about.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:48 PM
4	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. You're making skewed assumptions about all men based on your own personal experience. Just because YOU can't look at a woman without wanting to have sex with her doesn't mean that the rest of us can't.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:42 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. You sound an awful lot like the crazy feminists who believe that all MRA's are rape-apologists. You don't know all feminists, nor can you make such sweeping generalizations with any credibility. You're clearly not the kind of person I was hoping to hear from here. Thanks anyway.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:36 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. As I said in an earlier comment, the participants here didn't think that they were hiring, and therefore were not considering the financial and logistical implications of hiring the person. They were assessing the applications based on merit, and providing feedback on qualification level and deserved salary based on their professional experience, believing that their feedback would be given back to the "applicants" for their own use. Maternity leave and the like wasn't a factor at all.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:33 PM
1	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. I'm asking to to perhaps consider the fact that this isn't a goddamn competition and that men and women can be pretty shitty to one another from time to time, and that wouldn't it be great if intelligent MRA's and intelligent feminists could work together to fix the problems that face everyone because of their gender? In order to do that, though, I've got to point out that women still face, despite the many advances that have been made, good ol'-fashioned discrimination in the workplace. We DO N…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:28 PM
3	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. Perhaps people could, ya know, talk casually first, get to know each other, and establish, to a reasonable level of certainty, that the other person would be open to the idea of discussing sex? Or perhaps, when saying "you look very nice today" the woman responds "thanks! you don't look so bad yourself," use that as an opportunity to strike up a conversation? Because there was reciprocity? Is that really so hard?	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:23 PM
4	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. ...but if the identical applications had received similar results, than the outcome wouldn't have even happened in the first place. That had nothing to do with the MSS. They just gave two groups of professionals identical stacks of applications, changed the names, and said "here, rate these." Then they received back ratings that were different to statistically significant degrees, on an independently determined scale for the practice of rating applicants. The methods to which you're referring di…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:08 PM
10	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. If you do it in a way that focuses on an element of her sexuality, or in an aggressive tone of voice, or in a way that makes her feel uncomfortable, or with accompanying body language that sexualizes what you're saying, or in a circumstance where she doesn't have an easy exit (i.e., you're seated waiting for a bus, are on a bus/metro, are in line somewhere, etc.) then yeah, you're a creep. If you politely tell a woman that she looks very nice today, keep walking and leave it at that? Most women …	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 07:04 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. It seems like the Princeton study says the same thing; whatever discrimination they found came from men and women, and with all participants believing that the students should see their evaluation results, meaning that no one had any qualms with the evaluations that they gave, despite the fact that they were demonstrably biased.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:59 PM
4	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. I never replied to that response because the thread was dead, but believe me that I didn't "cherry pick" the data; that was the data that I knew based on what I've learned. It was correctly pointed out to me that it was false. I don't rely on it any more. You haven't shown me how this data is false, because the fact that the researcher has her own beliefs doesn't implicitly mean that her results are flawed. I love that you assume that I'm "licking panties" and "groveling to women's best interest…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:54 PM
9	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. As a straight, masculine man who has had sex with multiple female partners, I have genuinely given compliments to females based on their looks that are not sexually motivated, and done so in ways that do not make them feel uncomfortable. Your whole premise is based on your personal experience, and there's my premise, based on my personal experience. It seems that we're at an impasse, unless you'd like to stop generalizing about women and men and make a legitimate point. Sexuality is private. Men…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:48 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Page 2, fig. 1, shows the results of the ratings by the faculty subjects. The scale that they used was not invented for this study - it was a previously established and reviewed scale used for the practice that they were simulating. The reason that they used different groups was because the female (n=63) and male (n=64) applications were identical save for the name. If the same group reviewed both sets, they'd know what was up and the study would be flawed. They went through careful selection pr…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:44 PM
1	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Well, yeah, that's how science works. You determine what you're looking for and then follow procedures that allow you to measure it. They weren't questioning whether or not baises exist, they were trying to determine the degree behind it and the reasons for it. Modern Sexism Scale aside, the black-and-white fact from the study is that the identical female participants were either rejected/assigned a lower salary over their male counterparts. If that hadn't happened, then the study would have con…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:35 PM
5	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. So all straight men with sexual appetites are unable to look at a woman as anything other than a potential sex partner?	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:19 PM
1	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. I'd have to agree - it seems likely that there was an element of "looking for sexism" on the part of the lead researcher. That said, I don't see anything that implies that her findings are inaccurate. The article also doesn't make the claim that this is the sole reason for women's under-representation in sciences; it just suggests that it may be a factor. The professor in question here isn't a WS researcher; she works on bias and stereotypes, and not just against women in science hiring processe…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:18 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. I posted this to have a rational, logical discussion with people who disagree, because, as a man, I've found myself leaning more and more towards feminism. I want to have that belief challenged, because that's the only way that you can be sure of your beliefs. Saying that the study is unreliable because other studies have been unreliable is a logical fallacy. That's why I'm asking you to point out the areas of the study (which you clearly haven't read past the abstract) that are flawed - so that…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:12 PM
4	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Good point- lots of flawed studies coming from those groups. In what ways was this study flawed, that I may have missed?	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:04 PM
5	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. That's exactly the kind of study I was hoping someone would produce - thank you very much. I suppose the takeaway is that gender bias clearly exists, but manifests in different forms against different people based on the circumstances.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 06:01 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. What's your experience?	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:51 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Interesting article. Do you think that it applies to the study I've linked to above?	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:49 PM
3	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. They accounted for the sample size: "Additionally, in keeping with recommended practices, we conducted an a priori power analysis before beginning data collection to determine the optimal sample size needed to detect effects without biasing results toward obtaining signiﬁcance (SI Materials and Methods: Subjects and Recruitment Strategy) (48). Thus, although our sample size may appear small to some readers, it is important to note that we obtained the necessary power and representativeness to ge…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:44 PM
2	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. The participants didn't think that they were hiring the students themselves, they thought that they were reviewing their qualifications and providing an impartial, expert analysis for use at the students' career center. So the logistical and scheduling problems of maternity leave were really not likely to be a factor in their minds, as they weren't hiring for their own personal labs, just giving feedback on a resume and estimating a starting salary.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:42 PM
5	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. In this study, they asked the subjects to justify their decisions. Remember, the applications were identical, save for the male/female name. When asked why the female applicant was rated lower, the responses were reasoned, logical, and gender-nonspecific arguments explaining that the applicant was poorly qualified or not competent. These responses were not present for the identical male applications. Maternity leave was not a factor in any of the responses.	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:30 PM
6	Curious to see what r/MR thinks about this study - Female applicants rated significantly lower than identical Male applicants for lab manager position in double-blind study. Oh, sorry, I thought that the study link was posted. My, bad, this is my first time posting :P I'll put it up in a second!	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:23 PM
8	So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat. Wait, what? Women should feel GRATEFUL that nearly all compliments directed towards them are of a sexual nature or have sexual undertones? They should be HAPPY that all men that speak nicely to them only want to get in their pants? Are you serious? The fact that you've never had sex doesn't mean that the women of the world should be thankful that they've been lucky enough to receive the gift of sexual attraction. Perhaps women want to be complimented on their efforts at looking nice, or their ab…	/r/MensRights	14/10/12 05:17 PM
1	My university has a class called "Alcohol & College Life" which is mandatory. Recently we were forced to watch a video titled "Unless There's Consent" which focused on rape in relation to college students. This is just me live tweeting the video while I watched it. Figured it belonged here. Sure it's poorly acted, but it's not like they have the budget to hire Emmy winners. I didn't see anything in that video that was unreasonable - What exactly did they say that doesn't make sense?	/r/MensRights	26/09/12 08:07 PM
-1	My university has a class called "Alcohol & College Life" which is mandatory. Recently we were forced to watch a video titled "Unless There's Consent" which focused on rape in relation to college students. This is just me live tweeting the video while I watched it. Figured it belonged here. I have a lot of problems with this post. In order: "There are twenty videos in this series. Ten of them focus on men as aggressors in a rape scenario. One focuses on women." According to the Bureau of Justice and the National Institute of Justice, that division of the videos is portraying women as perpetrators a bit too much. These studies, though a bit dated, estimate that 99% of rapes are committed by men, whether they are committed against men or women. That said, it is important to make it c…	/r/MensRights	26/09/12 05:59 PM