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Question For MenIHaveABigDuvet/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:52 AM
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Just try to make this as smooth as a transition for your children. There is no healthy way to stay married to a woman who does not want to be married to you. Unfortunately part of getting married is knowing that there is the risk of divorce. Can I ask what went wrong in the marriage?
/r/Divorce_Men28/07/26 11:58 PM
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Do you have any assets at all you need to protect?
/r/Divorce_Men28/07/26 12:39 PM
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I think this is a comprehension issue on your part. So I will write in a a way you might understand. Google “Divorce lawyers in my city”. Call divorce lawyer. Pick good divorce lawyer. Give divorce lawyer payment details. Yay, now have lawyer. Now won’t get ripped off.
/r/Divorce_Men28/07/26 12:35 PM
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Do you use a parenting app? Only respond when a message directly addresses something to do with the children. Whatever she wants is not what you want.
/r/Divorce_Men28/07/26 10:45 AM
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I would suggest getting a lawyer just in case she wants a division of assets that doesn’t suit you. Don’t be a brat and don’t be petty. You made the grown up decision to get married and part of that means being grown up enough during a divorce. You knew it was a possibility after all.
/r/Divorce_Men28/07/26 12:35 AM
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Im sorry. Its really not ok that your masculinity is weaponised against you whenever you show the full range of human emotions.
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/26 07:55 AM
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Wow, that sounds like malpractice. Its completely normal to cry and be devastated after one of the most traumatic events a person can go through. The blame is on her not you. That must have been a further trauma after what you had already been through.
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/26 05:12 PM
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Can you quote the specific words your psychiatrist said?
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/26 04:53 PM
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Who said those things to you? Who told you that you are “not man enough” and to “get over it”?
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/26 03:44 PM
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I think that the lies have to be pretty heinous for a judge to penalise a party. On the level of documents being forged etc. If its just lies about whether the dog is an emotional support animal then no, it will just get ruled against and that’s it.
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/26 07:25 PM
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I have sympathy. I understand you must be in a really shit stressful position right now with her. And I also see that your are on a fine line right now as your really can’t afford to lose your shit right now. I don’t know what you need to do, therapy, put every one of her and her family members on the block list, smoke weed, buy a fuck machine - whatever it is you need to do to keep that temper under control is vital. Because right now in the eyes of any judge that you stand in front of, she has…
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/26 04:02 PM
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Honestly it sounds like you you and your ex are two fireworks trapped in a pressure cooker. You need to listen and it seems like you have a hard time doing that. This is your life. This is your future. Its time to take responsibility for it before you make some really big mistakes here. Decenter her from your life. She can only have as much power over you as you allow her. Because you violated a restraining order and damaged her items you already looks dubious in the eyes of a judge. You need to…
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/26 03:56 PM
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Let your lawyers do their job. I don’t know when you got them (before or after you threw out her stuff) but start trusting them and stop going off what YOU want to do. This divorce should not be about punishing your ex. Focus on separating from her and being free. Let the lawyers handle her lies and her manipulation tactics. They are professionals and they will know how to win your case if you just let them.
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/26 03:53 PM
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Yes but 3x is exceptional. Especially by your thirties.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/26 09:34 PM
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Tbh first things first is getting therapy. You need to process your last 3 marriages and at least be able to say why they failed. Stop thinking it will never happen to you because its already happened three times. Understand what you might be contributing to your failed marriages (picking the wrong type of person, missing red flags, relationship style, etc). Being a 3x divorcee will make you less attractive. At least you should learn something from them.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/26 09:34 PM
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Men race to the bottom without a strong man (their fathers) making them submit to a higher cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:31 PM
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Honestly I think the ideal is both people working manageable hours and only having children if you is a steady surplus in money is the way.
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/26 03:44 PM
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What do you mean by the “nice guy”? How did that show up in you?
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/26 12:53 AM
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You can try your best, but you never know until you actually try. But honestly a lot of young hot women want young hot men, so prepare yourself for that.
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/26 10:19 AM
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We are all the centre of our own lives. How can you point blame at anyone when you don’t know what caused the divorce?
/r/Divorce_Men05/07/26 07:53 PM
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What was the reason for the divorce?
/r/Divorce_Men05/07/26 07:51 PM
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No one said about blindly trusting anyone. You are commenting on a post where she has seen the step mother take good care of her child. If they are taking care of your child then you need to put your feelings aside. Of course you want to vet and of course their should be rules about introducing children. But the fact is that your marriage broke down and thats on you and your partner. Take responsibility for everything you didn’t do. Accept the loss and your part in it. Acknowlege how this had af…
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/26 02:31 PM
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I think you can’t get you mindset around it because you are centering your feelings over your children’s needs. Its not all about you. Its about the child. And even if the love is not exactly the same, as long as she is going above and beyond for the child, that is all that matters.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/26 01:14 PM
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Think about why it makes you angry. The idea of being replaced? The idea of them loving him more? The idea of them spending more time with him? The idea of what should have been? Understand that all these ideas arise from an insecurity of some other man taking your place. But understand this, you are their father and they will always need their father. That is a biological imperative. The only way you can fuck it ip is if you decide to. You can’t change what will happen in her house but you can …
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/26 01:11 PM
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Why did you keep having children?..
/r/Divorce_Men17/06/26 09:02 PM
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Im sorry you were encouraged to get married and have children so young. Someone should have told you the truth. If you have to work 12 hour days just to float a family, then perhaps building wealth should have been the priority, not making children.
/r/Divorce_Men12/05/26 04:40 AM
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- No more staying in a relationship that harms you. - No more expecting something from someone and getting disappointed when they let you down. - No more strife and constant fighting. - No constant expectations you can’t live up to. - Setting a good example for your child about when and how to leave an unhappy relationship - Being able to have more autonomy about how you live your life
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/26 06:42 AM
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Well she is skinny now. I thought that means she isn’t attractive to you anymore?
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/26 03:42 PM
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Try to move on. You don’t need to be focused on what her bathroom scales say. Its over.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/26 03:42 PM
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Picking a woman with sound psychology, and has healed from whatever makes her need external validation is vital.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/26 08:31 PM
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I think it should be proportional and fair. If you are in the same tax bracket at least I see no reason why she can’t pay for dates too.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/26 01:04 AM
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Stop contacting her. It won’t help things. Please find a professional to speak with about this though.
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/26 03:03 PM
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Its negatively affects men more than women. Relationships come with too much conflict. I prefer to be single and peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:25 PM
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Its actually better for men not to be introduced to the children of single mothers. Thats how children get Epsteined. It would actually have been better if your had stayed single and not have children at all- which is a conclusion many women are coming to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:22 PM
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You are still centering dating though. Women are more successful single because they have better support systems - these system are platonic not sexual. Mens focus on sex in their downfall. They forget the rest of their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:36 PM
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No its not just that. Its about sharing ones inner world. But a lot of men do not even engage in their inner world enough for them to share it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:25 PM
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Its in the minority. A dinner is $40. A date is 2-3 hours including preparation. But sitting across from someone you don’t like is extremely costly. $13-$20 an hour is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:19 PM
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I think you are a bit delusional. The things women can market come at a high risk. And that risk is reproduction. Women have adapted to be more sexually selective because women are the ones that have to deal with the burden of child rearing and pregnancy. I think you should be a bit more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:14 PM
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Read sexual conflict. Women are more desirable but they also take on the biggest risks when it comes to reproduction. If both men and women could get pregnant and het others pregnant, then it would be even because the risk is held on both sides - but this would also change male behaviour. How many men would be frivolously sleeping around if they it would incur and 18 year burden as a consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:12 PM
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Hate to break it to you - but maybe these women are just not attracted to you? If a woman is attracted to you then the dates will be fun, and pleasant. If you keep hitting a brick wall in dating it might be because these women simply are not interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:08 PM
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Its also applicable for all men. Many many men 40-60 still hunting for 20yos and long since been over for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:43 AM
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Well its not true. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:42 AM
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If you know she settled for you, and that you are punching, then thats on you for making a poor choice. And part of it is that you as a thirty something man are never going to compete with the 20 something men she was with at the time. Part of it you just have to take on the chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:41 AM
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Lmao. Most men want a hot wife more than almost any other characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:38 AM
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Average average person is attracted to people hotter than them on both sides. There are plenty of middle aged men trying to get 20yo’s. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:38 AM
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Then don’t be a bb. Stay single. Men are expecting women to salivate over them but if you aren’t attractive women won’t be doing that. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:36 AM
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We all know women are more selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:35 AM
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The amount of memes made by men sad about not getting the same treatment as a much hotter guy. He should get hotter or date at his level. Simples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:35 AM
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Well its not unfair because a man is not going to treat an attractive woman the same as an ugly one. Don’t date above your station and there won’t be a problem. Or get hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:34 AM
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Doesn’t mean they aren’t attracted to them. And men in general want attractive women too. They won’t go that many levels below them unless they are desperate. What’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:33 AM
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So why do men act so surprised then? What is there to be mad at?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:31 AM
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Agreed. And everyone does it until they get sufficiently humbled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:05 AM
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Why are you mad that af/bb?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:57 AM
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Oh boy, you have much to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:56 AM
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Attractive yes. But are you loveable? Would this person being you chicken soup when you were sick, and look after you if you needed help?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:54 AM
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If she can’t resolve conflict then she can’t have a healthy relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/26 08:09 PM
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What are your expectations of being single. As long you you know there will be ups and downs and are prepared for that, then do what is best for you. You might find someone (or many people) more compatible, you might not. You might fall in love, you might break up, it might be exciting, it might be dull. Just prepare yourself and have realistic expectations.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/26 01:11 PM
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He is not in love with her. Respect is the foundation of a relationship, not attraction.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/26 01:10 PM
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You are in the a divorced mens subreddit. How do you think?
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/26 08:35 PM
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She said she wanted to experience others sexually, not get married again. Being unmarried =/= being unpartnered.
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/25 01:54 PM
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Everyone should have their fingers on the pulse of their marriage. That 1000 yard stare doesn’t pop up out of nowhere.
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/25 10:41 PM
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There is no shockable rhythm in this marriage. MC is best done early when the parties still care. How come you left it so late?
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/25 07:00 AM
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What did you do wrong? Stop avoiding that.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/25 02:39 PM
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Has your lawyer advised that you delay the divorce?
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/25 02:38 PM
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That is fine, but do not drag out the divorce. You do not have to leave the house but keep your nose clean. Do not come across as spiteful, vengeful or petty because that will look bad in front of a judge. Have strong emotional boundaries. She is no longer your wife. She is your co-parent. Be level headed, be sensical, do not get dragged into a back and forth with her. Do not fight or argue in front on this kids. Separate your emotions - where she is going, heat she is doing and who with is no l…
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/25 02:37 PM
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You control the agenda by getting a lawyer and taking their advice. Delaying the divorce will look very bad in court and cause you children unnecessary harm. If you really care about your children, focus on doing everything you can to get the amount of custody you are entitled to and doing everything to amicably end this divorce. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/25 02:32 PM
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You are not doing this for your children. Children get fucked up not because of divorce itself but because their parents refuse to grow up and co-parent in a healthy way. Be careful or you will lose them too.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/25 02:25 PM
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I think that is what he is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:42 AM
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She should keep talking so that he can get locked up. That’s and easy charge that will wreck the rest of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:41 AM
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Woman want to be loved in the same way that men want to be loved. But the care that women put into loving men is rarely reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:39 AM
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If you being around doesn’t benefit anyone then maybe you are just meant to be alone. Why would anyone want you in their social circle if you aren’t contributing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:37 AM
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Nah we need charisma. Charisma is the golden ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:33 AM
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False. Unattractive women usually only get pump and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:30 AM
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And let’s be honest, the women dating convicts are not going to be the top rung women are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:25 AM
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They might be terrible but they are doing something that you aren’t, or are something that you are not. Maybe handsome or charming or charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:22 AM
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I think both men and women rate traits they have in themselves as more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:15 AM
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A lot of men lose interest after children because the woman gains weight. Let’s be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:13 AM
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Abusers are great at lovebombing though. That is the difference. And with people that have low self esteem and are desperate, its very effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:12 AM
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You are one person. The huge group of men see Valentines day as simply a “money grab” instead of a day to show love for their wives. A nice dinner and flowers is apparently too much. And then they wonder why their wife is no longer attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:40 AM
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The clock is ticking for women in their thirties but they always have more options than men, and they can just go older if they want a quickie marriage. Would not recommend though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:32 AM
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In terms of dating yes. But single women are happier than single men. I would always prefer to be a woman in any scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:30 AM
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Look at romcoms (media with the target audience of mainly women) from the 90s to present. Nearly all of them end in happily ever after which is synonymous with marriage. All the Disney Princesses ended their stories with marriage. There was a media machine that reinforced the idea about the virtues of marriage. If you couldn’t get a man to marry you as a woman it meant you were not worthy of long term commitment. If you got divorced it means you “failed as a wife”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:27 AM
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Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:23 AM
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By the time a person has become resentful, its already too late. You have taken advantage for far too long and the relationship is as good as dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:22 AM
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What about mens “acts of love” towards women? Is making her do all your cooking and cleaning an act of love? Is controlling her and punishing her “loving”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:20 AM
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Taking care of someone financially is also an act of love. Is every woman entitled to that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:19 AM
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This is ironic when men historically tend to forget birthdays, anniversaries and Christmas, even when she is making a special effort. Continue to date her, even after commitment. That is the key here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:16 AM
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Speaking about relationships from a point of incel is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:14 AM
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Men feel emasculated by taller women, richer women, and women or high status. They might not admit it but their behaviour will definately show their insecurity. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:13 AM
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Nah. That advice is given to men when they want to attract women. Counselling is the most commonly communicated peice of advice when divorce seems on the horizon.
/r/Divorce_Men25/08/25 09:23 AM
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Divorce your wife. You can’t keep going like this.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/25 08:12 PM
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Ok, so get a solicitor and ask your solicitor to ask her solicitor for mediation.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/25 03:53 AM
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Have you asked her for mediation? What did she say?
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/25 01:08 PM
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Try to follow along Op; what happened to true love Poster; feminism Me; feminism did not destroy concepts of true love because before true love men were commonly beating the shit out of their wives. Unless you believe a relationship where a man m fucks up his wife can be one of true love, my point is very clear.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/25 01:17 PM
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Tbh at this I find it immature. Like believing in fairytales.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/25 01:15 PM
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Monogamy is not bullshit. Most people cannot deal with their partner having sex with other partners. And it would make reproduction, paternity and family structure an absolute nightmare. The concept of mating for life is bullshit.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/25 02:13 AM
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Yes because the era when men could beat up their wives was the peak of “true love”. Please be sensical.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/25 02:11 AM
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That doesn’t benefit children though, one semi absent father amongst too many children would cripple society in less than two generations.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/25 02:10 AM
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Monogamy is not the issue. Its the idea that we mate with one person for life that is.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/25 02:09 AM
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True love was always just a marketing scheme. I don’t think humans are suited to mating for life. We go through so many changes, and there are so many internal and external stresses, and we have so many needs, that having a few long term relationships across of lifetime seems to be the limit.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/25 02:08 AM
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If you cannot find a way to be content in yourself then you do yourself and a potential partner a disservice. If you cannot figure out how to meet your own needs then you end up burdening your partner. Build social connections that are not just romantic, stay well connected, build a life that you love, and then you can withstand the love loss and break ups that happen within ones romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:21 AM
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And I would support it, if that is actually something men would work towards. But in general, men like to be in spaces where they can meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:18 PM
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That is just false. I can be lonely and I can do a duvet day with a friend, or I can talk to people I love, or I can even go to work and talk to strangers and it 100> helps fill that loneliness void. You are feeling lonely because you are imagining a utopia instead of thinking of the reality; you friends probably go home and one sleeps on the coach because his wife says he smells like alcohol, one got yelled at because he came back two hours late, and the last one is woke up at 4am because his k…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:45 AM
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Yeah, most men would still love to flirt with some dudes wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:38 AM
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Wait, doesn’t this go against the “women love assholes” idea, and instead validate “misogynistic men are bitter because they can’t get women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:36 AM
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I agree. More men should just leave women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:32 AM
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Yeah but more men would rather hold onto the chore than to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:24 AM
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I WISH women were socialised to distrust all men. Women LEARN to distrust men from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:17 AM
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Men want to be in spaces with women. That is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:14 AM
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Lmao, “look pretty for you”. Unless you look like Henry Caville I guarantee that you are not in her mind in any way when she is “making herself pretty” 😂😂😂😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:10 AM
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False. There is a reason men complain about start fishes in bed. They want a woman that wants them and shows them how much they are desired. They do not want a woman to lie there waiting for it to be over. That desire, that eagerness; that is what women want too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:08 AM
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This is just silly. Would you rather have sex with a woman that lies still during sex, disinterested and saying nothing, or would you want to be with a woman that is moaning, wet, and can’t wait to have you in her body? Of course its the latter because you want to fuck someone that desires you. The only thing is that its more pronounced in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:05 AM
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Everyone should have counselling. Everyone should be taking good advise from others in the community to ensure their relationship has longevity.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/25 01:05 AM
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People start counselling way too late. She was already gone by the time the counselling had started.
/r/Divorce_Men23/04/25 11:48 AM
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You can choose to be afraid, or you canface the beast. Instead of running about from your internal state, set aside time to process it, sit with it, feel it. That’s the only way it will go away.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/25 05:24 PM
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Say this to a therapist not her. Its just baiting her back into an argument which is not helpful at this point. Be emotionally disciplined. Vent to friends and family or whoever appropriate, just not to her. And if you have to write a letter - never send it.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/25 02:14 PM
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Women on average are happier single. Men on average are happier married. If men were as happy being single as women are, men would advocate for divorce much mote too.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/25 01:46 PM
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Astrology for men.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/25 05:11 AM
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Most people go on a self improvement journey after they break up. They want to reinvent and revitalise themselves. And most people also put on weight during a relationship. It is what it is. Most importantly, what are you doing to improve yourself?
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 12:13 AM
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Understand that relationships are a risk to women in a way they can never be for men. A woman can get pregnant and is not as physically strong as a man, so its actually smarter for her to stay single than to risk being with any man that isn’t the best possible partner for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:28 PM
1

Its so disappointing to be told your whole life how men are leaders, only to actually find they are pathetic dependant hobosexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:23 PM
1

Men make women’s lives worse with their possessiveness, dominating, and authoritarianism. Women would rather be free. And that’s why dating is not the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:21 PM
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Lol. Most men are not husband material. As in a supermajority of them. Especially in their 20s. Look at r/waitingtowed thousands of women waiting to wed and thousands of men delaying it. The problem is not women not wanting marriage. Its finding a suitable mate to be married too for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:19 PM
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I think those comments disprove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:17 PM
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Then take video games, films and porn for 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:14 PM
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Lol. Men also villanise women’s standards - especially the 6 feet and 6 figure part. Men won’t stop crying about not being a Chad with money. The only difference is that men want to constantly cry about it where women move in silence. We do not care if you do not want us. But don’t try and limit out freedoms and also just stfu. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:13 PM
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It might not even be about her other options. Its most likely that she just was not interested in you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:08 PM
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I think women should definitely be assertive in dating. The only problem is most men will take a free lay even if they are not really interested from someone they wouldn’t otherwise pursue. It can easily backfire on a woman if she wants an actual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:07 PM
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Oh yes, so hard to believe that a person saying they want to divorce you … is now divorcing you.
/r/Divorce_Men25/03/25 04:52 AM
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She threatened divorce for years. You really didn’t see this coming? Astonishing.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/25 10:45 AM
1

What superior reasoning you have. Did you go to college to learn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:46 AM
2

Case closed then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:17 AM
3

Maybe to you. Judging by the sausage fest in the comments, a lot of men also feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:17 AM
2

Who said anything about virtue?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:16 AM
2

Who cares about virtue?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:15 AM
1

No, Im saying an alpha male is defined by his social environment. You are not an alpha male if you were the weakest in your group. Being an alpha makes you the dog. A top dog means you have access to women. But if you don’t, then you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:15 AM
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I don’t. Im simply replying to the person before me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:11 AM
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Oh yes, all these women who * checks notes **, got with rich men. Of course it had nothing to do with wealth or fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:10 AM
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They wanted his money. They wouldn’t be there if he didn’t have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:08 AM
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What woman is going to be lead by an ugly man? What man wants to be in a social group with all men but no women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:00 AM
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Famous to men, yes. But not attractive to women. At all. Nothing but sausage party in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:58 AM
0

How can you look up to someone that fails evolutionarily?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:58 AM
2

Ugly pictures don’t need frames.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:57 AM
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Before he wasn’t even KnOwN. What changed was how people viewed him. Which is why you cannot be viewed as an alpha male if you are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:56 AM
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What you’re describing is delusion. Picasso became a great painter AFTER people started liking his work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:58 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:57 PM
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Goggins, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Tim Pool, Fresh and Fit, Elon Musk, The Quartering. Some might say Andrew Tate is ok but his hairline and jaw are not attractive. And these are just the celebrities, not even the average nobodies on Tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:56 PM
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Apps don’t strip that away. The lack of third spaces and contraction social spheres strip that away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:30 PM
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Its not ThE SyStEm, its differences between males and females. Men are always more motivated for sexual and romantic connection than women. That difference will only be fixed when men evolve wombs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:28 PM
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Imagining if you might lie about being sexually assaulted is not the same as asking “if there are not consequences, would you commit rape”. The equivalent instead would be; - if there are no consequences, would you file a false sexual assault report.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:25 PM
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The only difference is there are a much smaller percentage of eligible men than women. If the population for men and women are roughly 50/50, but men rate higher for crime and antisocial bejaviour, it means that there is a greater number of ineligible men in the dating pool than illegible women. Added to that that men are not socialised to be as emotionally and socially intelligent as women, and they are not trained to be as active domestically or as child rearers, it means a large proportion of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:16 PM
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Your answer is excluded then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:21 AM
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In the same way, women should have the choice to not develop his spawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:01 AM
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That is not the question Im asking though is it. Read the title. Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:00 AM
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Insert whatever equivalent you think is best. The examples are irrelevant. Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:59 AM
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That was the point. You surely rival Sherlock Holmes in your powers of deduction. I don’t care about your politics. Answer the question or don’t comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:58 AM
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Its indirect though. They limit women’s rights and limit their ability to abuse women, but that is not the same as a direct vote against your liberties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:20 PM
2

Ok so say you just spent 6months in a horrible left-over camp, would you not feel any anger towards her for voting for you to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:09 PM
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We aren’t. You just see yourself as a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:08 PM
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No. Its doesn’t work like that. You are not allowed to change the goal posts. This party is a dictatorship and is going about it in the same way the Trump is running his presidency. Whichever way you need to think it into being, it is. Now answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:06 PM
2

Nice. Glad to see a man with integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:04 PM
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I only hear men complain about being rejected by liberal women, I never hear about women complain about being rejected by liberal men. Hence the post, Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:04 PM
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Because you are hot. That’s literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:54 PM
0

Even with the policies I have stated? Can you reply to each one please?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:54 PM
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Then you were not engaging in it correctly. That’s on you to make better decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:51 PM
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There is this little device called the phone? Its miraculous, you can hear peoples voices through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:51 PM
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Not true. Physical anxiety does not address the schemas in which you see life through. Sit ups can’t remedy maladaptive thought patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:50 PM
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Women are the number one people in therapy, so yes women take accountability for their own psychology - a lot more than men (36% of referrals). If you go to therapy these things are likely to be addressed I’ve never had a therapist not hold me accountable. Its part of their job. Often healing is a never ending journey, but I see men abuse therapy speak much more than women. I see more women take breaks from dating to heal and figure out why they act the way they do, whereas men blame everyone el…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:48 PM
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Mate, I think you were in an abusive relationship if all this was happening to you.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/25 11:39 PM
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By this point she was already done with the relationship. Communication should have happened way way before she starts hinting for you to leave.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/25 11:35 PM
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I wish more people knew this. Relationships are constant work everyday. There is no point where you can just stop being a good partner and coast.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/25 11:16 PM
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A lot of it is education. Its only the millennial generation and younger that really have conversations about red flags. Its a relatively new topic in the public sphere. Now as a society we are generally just more informed.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/25 11:15 PM
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Get more attractive. Work out. Fix your hairline and your beer belly and your teeth. Make yourself more attractive unless you want your ex to be the last attractive woman you were will ever be with.
/r/Divorce_Men12/03/25 10:09 AM
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The Child Care The Chores The Breadwinning For two people, you either have to split the chores or the child rearing in half. Either that or she can find a job and you can take up the chores and childcare.
/r/Divorce_Men12/03/25 10:02 AM
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Not if she is doing ALL the child care.
/r/Divorce_Men12/03/25 09:59 AM
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Get a therapist. You ego is throwing a tantrum.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 01:06 AM
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And this is why fathers are given such a bad wrap.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 01:01 AM
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A very self aware response.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 01:00 AM
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It matters to a child to see their parents’ getting on. Especially for big days like birthdays and Christmas. Its not always about you.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 12:58 AM
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You should be doing it for their children. You don’t stop being a father after a separation.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 12:56 AM
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Terrible advice. Going off psychiatric meds can lead to suicide ideation. Your an AH for recommending this with no idea what risk you could be putting OP under. The last thing he needs is to lose custody because he is unstable.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/25 11:02 PM
1

But why get mad by your own rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:16 PM
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You literally “douche” with “6’4” and “abs”. Clearly better looking men offend you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:52 PM
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Dating apps, which I think is the closest indicator we have without having direct data, shows that attracting women is a huge problems atm. That indicates that women are even less interested in dating than men, with a widening gap. We can bring up male loneliness rates too, because men men do not have the social support of girlfriends. Deny the evidence if you want but it is literally in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:50 PM
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Well data on marriage is not data on dating, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:47 PM
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Women are more prosocial than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:34 PM
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So not than many women then, as women are very stringent when it comes to judging looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:31 PM
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Why would they claim it in real life. I doubt you are friends with enough women to know what they talk about between each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:29 PM
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And the 4B movement doesn’t exist. Birth and marriage rates aren’t declining either too I guess. The evidence is all saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:29 PM
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Then why do men get mad when a woman isn’t attracted to him. Why can’t he just accept that he is in the OTHER category?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:27 PM
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So short, balding, and unattractive men are also not really men either?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:27 PM
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What are these checks? Tell us what you think women should check for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:25 PM
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Never heard of the 4B movement? Declining birth rates? Declining marriage rates? These are all indicators that women are dating less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:25 PM
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Well the second point I made is the movement of women saying they are no longer dating, the 4B movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:24 PM
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Its obviously you have never been to therapy. Therapy is nothing BUT uncomfortable truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:23 PM
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Toxic men are attractive. Often takes care of his looks more, is more charming etc. People that are psychopathic and narcissistic actually initially perceived really well before they start their bullshit. But it’s not the choosing - no doubt narcissistic and psychopathic women are equality are charming and attractive too - its the leaving. Its about realising you are with a manipulator quickly and then getting out safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:22 PM
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Agreed. I think everyone should take a little time to way to get their mind right and reset.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:18 PM
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No, women want to reproduce healthy genes. So attraction is obviously important, as it is to everyone because it often relates to health. The idea that good looking = bad personality and bad looking = good personality is just cope. If this were the case then prisoners would statistically be the best looking group, wouldn’t they? And clearly that isn’t true. A single parent is classed as a parent raising their child alone. So there being more single mothers simple means that more women than men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:16 PM
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That would make sense if only criminals cheated, abandoned their families, or refused to be good husbands and fathers. These are the things that women complain about and they are not just the criminal population. Lot’s of what society would call a “good man” treat their partners poorly and these men have never been convicted of a crime. (I genuinely do not know the purpose of the second source.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:03 PM
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Well if you look at the reason people split up, men on average commit the the majority of the issues;* Men commit 60% of infidelities, are more likely to gamble, and less likely to want to go to couples therapy, are more likely to abuse substances, and are less likely to look after their health. And they also only do 40% of the housework and less than their fair share of childcare too, even when they both work. *”Common reasons for divorce include: Infidelity: Physical or emotional betrayal can …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:45 PM
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Lol, when were the standards ever “obvious douche”. If you are not attractive, that is not women’s fault. If you don’t want to date 3 and below, why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:38 PM
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She must have really been done with you, wow
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/25 01:12 PM
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This exodus
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:30 AM
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Men are actually worse drivers than women statistically. They take unnecessary risks that lead to the getting into accidents more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:29 AM
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Finding a Tom Holland or Cameron Hamilton in the wild is near impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:27 AM
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Define what a “good man is”. Let’s compare notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:27 AM
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Well statistically, women are more prosocial than men and have better socio-emotional skills than men. So statistically if the gender split is even by population, most women are not going to find an evenly matched man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:26 AM
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Based on what evidence? Do most men have the qualities that most women are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:23 AM
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I mean, they are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:23 AM
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I mean, the dating apps are saying it themselves. There is a literal movement where women are proclaiming “4B”. But ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:22 AM
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So you are happy with women dating less in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:22 AM
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Yeah that does not answer the question though does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:21 AM
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So you have changed from “choose better” to “stop being lazy and continue choosing us”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:21 AM
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The gender war is based on sexual conflict which is unavoidable. What the females want as the baby box havers are different from what the males want as the non baby box havers. As long as we have sexual dimorphism we will have the genders wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:13 AM
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Right, because we need disposable men that we are willing to have murdered in war. Great argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:10 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:09 AM
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When a woman is choosing better, when she meets a quality partner is not in her control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:07 AM
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Yes they are. By having strong social networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:06 AM
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But there are also growing groups of childfree people. Those are the people you make friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:06 AM
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Yeah because you have no idea how little satisfaction you are giving your partner. This is why she leaves you and you don’t know why. Why are not kind, caring, thoughtful, fun, charismatic. Being with you is fucking boring. You don’t do anything interesting in your life. No one likes you or wants to be around you. And you think eating Cheetos on the sofa while you play video games for the rest of your life will keep her? 😂😂😂😂😂 No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:05 AM
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They should just learn a better way then. Stop being dependant on women for it. It gives us the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:02 AM
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Im sorry but I click on profiles and most of them are ugly overweight old men. Do I complain? No. Because I am not entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:01 AM
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I mean, the high quality women are just outside your reach. That’s the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:00 AM
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What exactly is wrong with this profile? She hasn’t said anything problematic imo. If you don’t like her personal characteristics then that is on you. We aren’t going to ban a certain type of person on a platform because you do not like a characteristic they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:00 AM
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I think dating within your social circle is fine. The problem comes when you shoot your shot at every female friend you have. If there is mutual attraction it is fine. If you are just a whore then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:58 AM
2

Can you give us some examples you have experienced please?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:56 AM
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Well 90% of violent crime is committed by men. The prison population has elevated testosterone levels. The facts don’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:05 PM
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That isn’t true. Women have always worked to support the family. Often in the family business. They just didn’t get compensated for it. In ancient Egypt women also worked in government, in teaching, as business owners and in agriculture. When processes food its not just about braun. There are many jobs they require smaller fingers and focus. Just because it received a backlash does that mean it wasn’t a win. Every civil right has received back lash but that doesn’t mean you didn’t still win. Yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:02 PM
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I mean, whatever you want to call it. Most people find it dehumanising.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:57 PM
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Western women would be nice to you too if you were rich enough. Whatever amount that compensates for your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:55 PM
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I did unfortunately. Your point is illogical unless there is something else you would want to add.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:53 PM
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Look up “family annihilators”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:52 PM
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It means your male ancestors’ reproduced. It does not mean they reproduced with desirable women. That might just be your fate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:52 PM
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That’s what it is sounding like and it is do disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:45 AM
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Exactly. Women had to work against a system from bottom up with very few allies with next to no power in society. The feminist movement began in the late 18th century where women won the right to vote, I don’t see that as a fail, but women had rights in ancient Egyptian societies, so I don’t think technology is the only factor here. Why can’t men solve these relatively simple issues they have? With your response it seems that you are just too lazy to actually take accountability for your own lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:44 AM
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Not true. Testosterone literally makes you more reactive and impulsive. Oestrogen contributes to mood stability and progesterone makes you calmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:33 AM
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Women were not intelligent enough to learn, until we were. Women didn’t invent or lead or make money until we did. It wasn’t common for women to do alot of things until they took control of their lives and did so. So why can’t the “logical, rational” males actually solve this relatively small* problem amongst yourselves. Why are the “natural born alpha leaders” so dependant on women to fix their issues for them? *Yes, creating better support networks with your boys is 1000x easier than overturni…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:29 AM
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No. To men high value = social status and money and not being a complete dick. For a woman there is a whole list but condensed down to someone who could be a good father and husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:23 AM
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Redditor discovers the concept of thinking. Bro, there is a reason you have multiple parts of the brain that connect with each other. You are meant to evaluate your subconscious beliefs with the rational parts of your brain. Ffs. How are you even alive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:21 AM
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No. Lack of romance does not cause loneliness. There are many single people with no romance is their life but are also not lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:19 AM
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Yes because men instead choose to abandon their children. Do you see how that argument does not help you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:15 AM
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Because people are more than just a data point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:13 AM
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What is there to talk about if it was just a fling?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:06 AM
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Men often lack robust support systems. And this is why women in general do more to maintain their relationships. Homelessness is an issue often preceded drug and alcohol issues. Which stem from emotional and personality issues. The bottom line is that to fix male loneliness men will have to do the work like all of us in society have to do to maintain our mental health. Women have plenty of empathy, but it gets tired if you continue to complain but refuse to do anything about it. Go to therapy, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:05 AM
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Well generally the reason why men are women commit familicide. Men often do it to seek vengeance against the mother or to punish her for leaving and women often do it because they cannot cope with looking after the child anymore (and sometimes post-partum). The difference in reasons which we know from multiple cases of this occurrence happening yearly, is probably the reason why people respond differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:58 PM
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I think when women are talking about that, they are talking about their dreams. And everyone has dreams. I don’t think they actually expect to have goats in your back yard OP. They are not pre-requisites 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:48 PM
3

So a South Asian woman can milk you instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:46 PM
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What can you offer women that is better than feminism? Ill point to some issues and try and give me a fix that is better; Women having multiple unwanted pregnancies, miscarriages and dying from birth Feminisms answer; legal birth control Being trapped in an abusive marriage. Feminisms answer; no fault divorce Having to marry in order to save yourself from destitution Feminisms answer; education, ability to get a job Becoming penniless if your father or husband dies Feminisms answer; women have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:45 PM
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How has feminism created this system? Before feminism a man would have to have enough wealth and status to impress a woman’s father. Look back in your family history and see if you ancestors’ were ever wealthy enough to be desirable men in those periods. I actually think a lot of the men these days have more chance of getting a woman now, than they ever had before feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:28 PM
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If the red pill actually did a good job of gaming the system then yes, but I have seen far more normies get into the relationships they want over red pillers. Feminism did not create this system. Sexual selection dictates the competition between men and women in terms of relationships, and it precedes feminism by literally hundreds and thousands of years. As long as women have the baby box and men have the swimmers, women will always want men that can support them post partum, and men will alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:22 PM
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Yes there is bad and good. The anti-social ration it away to disguise their lack of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:18 PM
0

Well sharing the spoils is not the same as actually committing the crime though is it. This is a very poor argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:17 PM
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No he didn’t. Please try to listen and understand. She was sexually satisfied when they had sex. But she wanted sex more than him. Therefore; incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:15 PM
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No, its an incompatibility. He could have been great in bed, but if she wants 6 meals a day but he only wants 1, then that is an incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:14 PM
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I’d agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:13 PM
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And even then, it only takes one job loss, one parent dying, one illness, and the relationship can fracture. C’est la vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:11 PM
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Yep. It happens sometimes. Not everything is in your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:10 PM
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Men are always ripe for the picking because they will always want more pussy than they can ever get. That’s why no matter how oppressed women are, men will always want to take it a step further. Additionally, to radicalise someone first you need them to feel disenfranchised in some way anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:05 PM
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Exactly. The point Im making is that its hypocritical for men to say that women make poor choices in dating, because men also make poor dating choices. It doesn’’t have to apply to the majority or anything. Do you need a lesson in reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:31 PM
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Yes because your individual experiences have anything to do with readily available information beyond your sphere. I do have an anecdote to submit though. A right wing guy who think single mothers are the downfall of modern day society; who only ever dates single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:30 PM
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I don’t think a red pill guy would say no to a woman as long as she was hot. But that is irrelevant. It doesn’t have to be “red pill men” it just has to be “men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:07 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Men do not just say “on a certain type of women that want Wade Wilson”. They just say “women”. Men most certainly are stupid for having casual sex with crazy women because that’s how babies are made, Einstein. You think a condom can’t be poked with a needle?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:05 AM
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Go look at any video of her in handcuffs getting marched by the police. Despite her killing her bf, there is nothing but thirst in the comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:03 AM
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A) That is not the topic here. But as you brought it up; it basically looks the same. The only difference is when you have had sex with them and they discard. That is the only consistent “tell”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:02 AM
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Stop changing the terms. The women lusting after Wade Wilson online are the same as the men lusting after The Doll online. Secondly, there is a population discrepancy when it comes to abusers. There will be more abused women because there are more abusive men. But that doesn’t stop men from also being attracted to broken mentally ill women, and there are plenty of men that fit into this particular category.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:03 AM
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The average woman doesn’t want to fuck Wade Wilson. That isn’t the point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:00 AM
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The only woman I lust after one insta baddie and she knows who she is, so stop. Do I need to post the stats about how many men compared to women buy Only Fans, or are you going to bow out of this debate now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:59 AM
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Ffs lol. On the flip-side, bad boys tend to be very confident, charismatic, good looking and will love bomb the ever living fuck out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:57 AM
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Are you kidding me? When do men take accountability for single mothers? Firstly they are the ones that make the mothers single by being ABSENT fathers. Where are the men taking accountability for busting in unstable women? And you must be crazy if you think men who buy Only Fans don’t keep it a secret. There are millions of husbands right not with Only Fans that their wives don’t know about. What is even worse is risking your marriage for a OF sex worker who doesn’t even know you from Adam. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:55 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:47 AM
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Right. Also it’s “pick better” when talking about others but, “I believe in second chances” when talking about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:45 AM
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I mean, if you think any of these women won’t poke holes in condoms, then that is just an extra layer of stupidity. Let’s not pretend that these men won’t happily bust in a “psycho girl” because the make up sex is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:44 AM
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Is this a comment for Wade Wilson or The Doll, I cannot tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:43 AM
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A) That is irrelevant to my argument, and B) it still makes it hypocritical. But as you brought up the point; to be honest I agree. I think women should stop looking for the good in men altogether, stop dating for potential, and stop looking for redeeming qualities. Women need to be more savage and ruthless when picking partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:41 AM
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I actually was literally just thinking about The Doll. Luigi at least can be painted as a Robin Hood type so I don’t think he counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:37 AM
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I mean, I wouldn’t call it dumb. I would just say that they are probably seeking a level intensity that tends to come from a toxic relationship. It is clear that they are getting something out if the experience, whatever it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:37 AM
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It’s more than that. Its about acknowledging that seeking excitement and danger exists in both men and women, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:35 AM
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Exactly. You will find people that prefer toxicity in relationships in women AND men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:33 AM
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Men initiate the relationship but women are the ones holding the relationship together. If you add kids then its the woman keeping the whole family together and investing the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:31 AM
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If that were the case then why do men expect a women to cook, clean and do all his domestic labour for him while all he has to do is have a job like everyone else. Isn’t that coddling?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:28 AM
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How many ours do you work a day? How many breaks are you entitled to? The first few years of parenthood are pretty much hell. If you are having children back to back then you pretty much always have a newborn or a toddler, meaning long term sleep deprivation for a good 10 or so years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:30 AM
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Women do not choose to be independent; they still benefit from taxes paid by married men. The data disagrees. There is a correlation to marriage rates decreasing and female financial independence increases. This sentence is not logically or contextually connected to anything I said. You have a red pill flair, Sir. Yes, nothing unravels homemade food’s taste as well as sitting in plastic for 4 hours. I mean you don’t have to eat the plastic. Most of the food we eat at some point was in plastic pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:29 AM
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Describe a traditional man for me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:25 AM
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I don’t think you have any idea about what raising multiple children is like. Have you ever cared for children for a significant period of time? Spanking will just give them psychological issues which will make them more violent to each other, and erupt during their teenage years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:23 AM
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What do you mean by “a finesse”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:22 AM
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If you go with tradwife then the wheels are already set in motion. How do you expect to leave when you have multiple kids and no career. You either stay or look for a new man to look after you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:22 PM
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Why do you think being a Tradwife is an easy choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:21 PM
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Trad wife. If I was a 100% biological woman since birth, I would have had a brain with a woman’s motivations, including the feminine urge to delegate the burdens of my survival and well-being onto someone else and make it their obligation. If this were the case then why do so many women choose to be independent single and childfree? Not every man in the before times was rabid bible-humping quiverfull wife-beating tyrannical sectarian. Your mental image of traditional marriage is a caricature. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:21 PM
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I think you qualify to being a Tradwife! Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:41 AM
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So you have sex with people you don’t find attractive. You wouldn’t want to know what it’s like to actually have sex with people you found attractive? Aren’t you settling for having sex with people you do not even find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:34 AM
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This is purple pill debate. Im using the definitions given to me by red pill. I don’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:33 AM
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Not really. Lots of kids means more resources spread out between offspring. Great for mice, not great for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:32 AM
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Its still submissive. To be honest men work very well when they are being dominated by a more masculine man. I think you would be well suited to being a tradwife actually. Additionally, women are more over represented in both degree holding and house ownership in America. Men are the ones that are over-represented in NEET (not in employment, education or training). I think women look for men that can be depended on, but in general men are the more dependant ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:30 AM
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In wars and critical disasters, men tend to abandon their families anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:27 AM
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Then why aren’t more women trad wives instead if modern women then. Surely every woman would just choose male to be lead by instead of getting a degree then, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:26 AM
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I mean, the thing about humans is we have superior intellect that allows for imagination and empathy. But perhaps this conversation is beyond you. You are probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:25 AM
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What is a “non annoying woman”?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:23 AM
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I mean, you would do as your husband told you. That is your job. To be obedient and subservient to him. If he allows you to have money then that would be nice of you. But if that takes away from your wife and mother duties you might have to set that aside and just be happy about the allowance he gives you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:23 AM
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Again, less focus on fucking men (👀) and more focus on the lifestyle choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:21 AM
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What is your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:21 AM
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So alpha fucks, beta buxs then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:20 AM
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Then it’s likely you would be the starter wife/gf, and wants he gets successful go after much better looking, younger women. How attractive are your mother/ sisters. If they wouldn’t get with a millionnaire-to-be it’s unlikely that you would be able to get one. And how would you pick a “good guy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:20 AM
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STI’s and dealing with men is a huge downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:17 AM
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According to redpill, wouldn’t 5+ body count women be seen as “ran through hoes”? Would top men prefer a “ran through hoe” over a young virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:17 AM
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What do you think being a SAHM entails?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:15 AM
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Has redpill not worked for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:22 AM
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That’s odd. As a woman you would have even more evolutionary reasons to have safety nets than as you do as a man. How strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:21 AM
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I see. Survival of the fittest I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:20 AM
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I do not think men invest the same in children as women do. Men in general can take care of a child’s basic needs, but doesn’t do the extra tasks that help brain development. The perfect example is Motherese. Motherese is a type of speech that adults use when speaking to infants and children, characterized by a higher pitch, slower pace, and more exaggerated intonation. It’s also known as baby talk, infant-directed speech (IDS), or caretaker speech. Here are some characteristics of motherese: Pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:19 AM
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Which means her disobedience would more her a modern woman. I have a feeling that that isn’t what you are trying to say though. Proverbs 24:9: “Any foolish thought is sin”. Romans 3:23: “For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard” The Bible is an extreme hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:11 AM
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So you would be a tradwife to perhaps a less optimal man. Maybe a man that is poorer, or a lesser character?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:10 AM
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You are describing everyone currently living under late stage capitalism, Sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:09 AM
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That isn’t true. People that marry young have a much higher risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:08 AM
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Again you would need to be hot first. Is your mother hot? Is your sister hot? Could they get the attention of 50 rich guys? If not then you would need a plan B.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:06 AM
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Who cares? I do, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:05 AM
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Well you would still have a dopaminergic reward response to sex and orgasm. 4-5 days of the month you would still get horny and desire sex, and find babies especially cute. However there would be more risk due to pregnancy, and STI’s. What’s it gonna be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:04 AM
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Why do you think hormones would have any effect on this choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:00 AM
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Well can I ask you. Have you kept yourself pure until marriage? Are you married? Do you have children? Do you dedicate yourself to being a good father? Are you faithfully in church, have you read your Bible back to front? How much to you adhere to The Word?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:57 AM
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Think less about the dick, and more about the lifestyle choice. Are you sure the women in your family only have one body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:55 AM
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I’m guessing you would be a tradwife then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:54 AM
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I never said “hoeing around”, however I have to ask. As a male, wouldn’t you like to know what its like to have sex whenever you want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:54 AM
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Would you enjoy being penetrated in every hole?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:52 AM
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Its what redpill spaces have defined a TradWife to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:52 AM
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Not at all. Men can be submissive; men are submissive yo their bosses. They are submissive to their army superiors. They are submissive to ideas about how to be a man given to them by other men. So why, can you not be submissive to your domestic boss at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:51 AM
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As defined by red pill, being a tradwife means being obedient, submissive and subservient. There is even Biblical scripture used to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:49 AM
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Tradwives traditionally prioritise caring for their kids and husband. That is a full tome job. Its the mans job to provide in traditional dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:48 AM
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I would want a modern woman. Here is why; - my career plus her career would mean that we could live a comfortable lifestyle - I do not want several children - I want a partner that is my equal, that I can converse with, that has an identity - her sexual experience would make sex more enjoyable for us both
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:45 PM
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Well Eve ate the apple in genesis. But I am assuming that you would be a traditional wife, is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:42 PM
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In red pill it IS a binary choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:38 PM
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You don’t get to do both. If you aren’t a virgin then its unlikely the the most eligible trad husbands would want you. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:37 PM
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Only fans is work. The only way you can do 0 work is if you come from money (and your parents are willing to share it). Also, are your female family members hot? If not then neither would you be. So what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:35 PM
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Being a tradwife is not easy mode. Taking care of multiple children 24/7 and doing all the domestic labour for the whole house is not easy. Being a modern woman is easier because women fair much better with independence than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:34 PM
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According to red pill, both is not an option. According to red pill, virgin women submissive women are the ones that get trad men. That is why I am posing the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:32 PM
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Being a tradwife is a lot of labour. And often the “pampering” is more like a quid pro quo. If you have a nice husband, then yes he will treat you well. But if he likes to be dominant, if he likes power, or if he is insecure, the chances are you will be pampered when you are obedient to him, and punished if you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:30 PM
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Its risky business, let’s see how it pans out for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:59 PM
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We have all seen the memes comparing tradwives to modern women. Maybe its you who does not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:58 PM
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What if he starts being abusive towards you. What will you do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:57 PM
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I need to see you with a woman filter to know if you would he hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:56 PM
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Trad women are too busy raising multiple children to trade stocks. That is the husbands job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:55 PM
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So a woman shouldn’t save herself for marriage. What if a Trad Man wants a virgin wife before marriage? If she wants that kind of man then saving herself would be the best option, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:54 PM
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Im just going by the definition already determined by red pill spaces. We have all seen the memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:52 PM
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What ever you want. Its your choice. But to be a tradwife being a virgin is a must. However, as a male, wouldn’t you like to know what its like the be able to have sex whenever you wanted it, if you wanted it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:50 PM
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If you were hot and already wealthy. Let’s hope that would be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:47 PM
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If you divorce him, then you will have no career, no job accept minimum wage to fall back on, and several children that he may or may not pay child support for. Are you sure that is the best option?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:46 PM
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What if he is never held accountable. Or is only held accountable when he goes to hell. What then? Will you live all 80 of your years under his thumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:44 PM
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Sorry Bro, you gotta pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:42 PM
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I am strictly arguing a concept that has been defined by the red pill. I do not make the rules, but as they are already defined by the red pill, I want to know what men would opt to be, given the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:41 PM
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If you were a woman, would you be submissive, obedient, and subservient in every way to your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:38 PM
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I am just going by how redpill men define a “good woman”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:18 PM
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Well damn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:12 PM
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I am specifically talking about the “Tradwife” vs “Modern woman” dichotomy which has been floated in many “pill” spaces. This is not the first time these ideas have come up. I am just interrogating the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:12 PM
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I am just going by ideals already set out by the red pill community. Red pill clearly states what a “good woman” is. A “good woman” is virginal, obedient, maternal and submissive. I don’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:04 PM
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What if your dominant husband does not allow you to have a job? Would you obey him as a trad wife would?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:02 PM
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How would you pick that good man? What would you look for? If he started to be abusive, or cheat with a younger woman once you get older, or once your body changes after so many pregnancies, what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:00 PM
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Just because a woman rejects you, it doesn’t mean you don’t deserve love. If she isn’t attracted to you then she isn’t attracted to you, you are going to have to accept that. And these messages are coming from different places. Its largely men that bully other men for not being able to attract a woman. The answer is to find your own meaning in life. Decide who you want to be. Divorce ideas of sex and romance from your identity and self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:55 AM
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Would be be subservient and submissive to your husband? Follow his lead, let him make the decisions? If he asked you to quit your job, would you? How much control over your life would you allow him to have? I have defined tradwife very specifically. A tradwife traditionally does not have a job. Her job is the serve her children and husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:50 AM
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Women are ALWAYS the ones that bare the burden of what parenthood bring. If only women could be are callous as men when it comes to abandoning children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:45 AM
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It costs women equal or more to raise a child. Men should always wear a condom. Additionally however, there should be more birth control methods for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:44 AM
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For men yes. For women no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:42 AM
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No. Its about character. Look at the way people love Tom Holland. Yes he is a handsome superstar. But people are endeared to him because of how to treats people. He is wholesome. And morality and merit does not equate to sex. There needs to be attraction for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:31 AM
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I think men are the ones left isolated in old more than women actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:22 PM
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Well they aren’t any more are they. Birth rates are plummeting below replacement rate for a reason. Women are choosing better it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:22 PM
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How involved were you in parenting? Why don’t you appeal the courts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:17 PM
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So if you were a single mother it would mean you were defective? What about never getting a partner to have a family with? Doesn’t that also make you defective?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:38 PM
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Its more about the social status and lifestyleIm referring to, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:36 PM
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Very few people choose to be a single mother. Question; would your child make up for the fact that you are a single mother or do you still pick childfree? What about the concept of dying alone with cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:53 AM
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Even when men DO have families they don’t put in effort… to be honest men are a weak link, and having less of them around would be beneficial generally. You are assuming Im am saying all the women will reproduce, but Im not saying that. Im saying the women that WILL reproduce will, and the women that won’t, won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:31 AM
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I mean, the single and childfree by choice women population is growing - by a lot. There is a decrease in birthrate globally. Isn’t it already happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:27 AM
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I mean, its a strategy that could be used, but its incredibly costly to the woman. That means multiple more pregnancies and splitting her resources between extra children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:26 AM
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I think its you that doesn’t understand evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:24 AM
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The difference is that women have access to resources now. So if she has her own resources as a means of survival, she can CHOOSE to be with a man or not. That means its no longer coercion but a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:02 AM
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Men shouldn’t. Men should choose to be single rather than being with someone they do not like. Unfortunately most men would rather take something over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:01 AM
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I wish this were the case. But men often push for no condoms to be used during sex. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:58 AM
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No Im ok on dating tbh. Single and childfree by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:57 AM
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I really do. I think Im pretty consistent in my beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:56 AM
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I mean, women get raped regardless. I would rather go towards a population where the genetic pool is rid of rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:56 AM
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No, I mean women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:55 AM
1

Can you cite those studies please?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:54 AM
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Because Im a feminist. Maybe I class as “other pill”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:54 AM
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Nope. I could compensate with money at a push, but also being single and childfree is a lifestyle that suits me. I would only being a child into this world in near perfect circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:53 AM
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Do you think the world is stable now? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:52 AM
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Anti-social people will be anti-social regardless. And when they are we segregate them from society to protect ourselves. What else is there to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:51 AM
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I mean, its what Im doing already. I don’t need a stranger on the internet to tell me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:48 AM
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Im agreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:47 AM
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Yes it does. Its nature AND nurture that affects the outcome of children. Humans especially need a lot of positive nurturing parental input to be well adjusted. And in the world we live in, children need a lot of resources too. And yes some women buy eggs, but its a small percentage of people. This is why I am saying there needs to be a cumulation of these three aspects; signifiers of good genetics, resources and fatherhood skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:46 AM
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Umm, do you not think we aren’t already leading to collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:43 AM
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Yes and no. Successful males benefit from frequent mating and monopolizing access to one or more fertile females. Females can maximise the return on the energy they invest in reproduction by selecting and mating with the best males. Obviously men basically choose women based on how fertile they look. However I think a lot of men marry women because they get pressured into doing it. I think a lot of men prefer the idea of staying unmarried so they don’t “lose half in the divorce” and because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:39 PM
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That’s ok. Tbh I have been with men much better looking than me, and still I prefer to be single. ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:32 PM
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That is true. And that’s why I said “good health” is important. Do you understand what the term cumulative means? You want enough of these positive aspects to meet the threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:31 PM
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I would prefer that men are more selective with who they date and procreate with, but I have no data that suggests that men in general are capable of being as conscientious of children they create, as women are. That fact is supported by data that states - women are more prosocial and altruistic than men - women do more of the childcare - more single mothers exist than single fathers - men’s involvement in parenthood often hinges on whether he is with the mothers child or not - women file for cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:28 PM
1

Tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:15 PM
1

Then you have made the elusive top 20% imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:15 PM
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You always have to capitalise on your strengths. If your short, make sure you are fit. If you’re bald, make sure are well groomed and have good facial hair. If you aren’t fit, make sure you dress well. At a glance, you want to the overall impression to be 👍not 👎. And yes, financial stability is a must. Whatever you do, once you get a date do not start being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:13 PM
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See, this is where you are misunderstanding sexual selection. Men are already attracted to traits that infer fertility and successful baby carrying (large boobs, fat around the hips and butt, wide hips, youth). However if a man has sex with a woman, and she and the baby die, guess what happens? He simply moves onto the next woman. Sad but true. According to a study by the San Diego Widowhood Project, 61% of men remarry or are in a new relationship within 25 months of their spouse’s death. Men re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:43 AM
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The women who can’t find a suitable mate simple won’t. And I think that is the way it ought to be. Scientists talk about over population for a reason. I don’t believe that 100% of the population needs to reproduce. The fact is that generally men are much less sexually selective anyway. Most men are down for the pump and dump, which is why women tend to be the more selective gender as the baby carriers - its an evolutionary function. Successful males benefit from frequent mating and monopolizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:32 AM
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Yeah, we need to stamp this our immediately imo. It is just as relevant, and I wish men could get on board to be selective in their partnerships with women, but most men are ok with the pump and dump. And thats why usually its the baby carrier that is the most selective sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:25 AM
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Obviously only the top 20% of women (attractive, physically fit, educated and financially independent, maternal and is willing to be a mother not just rely on her husband to pay for a nanny while she doesn’t work etc.) are the women we’re talking about right? Because everyone wants to level up in their relationships but that’s not reality so this is a fantasy wish I guess. Nope. All women. In general women are always more invested in creating good quality offspring. In our society the parent mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:20 AM
2

I actually think humans have artificially created Darling Daughters in contradiction to the Sexy Sons Hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:50 AM
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I will always support better education.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:47 AM
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Its rough out here. Single and childfree is looking better and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:23 PM
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Please read point 3. Remember this is prescriptive of what I think women ought to do. Point number 1 and 2 is not enough alone imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:22 PM
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Eugenics; the arranging of reproduction But who is it arranged by. In general there are attractive traits, but within that women select attractiveness based on their own definition. What I find attractive and what another woman finds attractive are different. There will be some convergence but there will also be a lot of variability too. For example, some women like Dad bods, some women like slim men, and (a lot) of women like athletic men. Women generally have a preference for tall men. It may …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:20 PM
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Hopefully yes. We are overpopulated anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:10 PM
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Sexual selection; women generally are the baby carriers, so have to invest a lot in each offspring through their lifespan. Looking for the best mate means their efforts are less likely to be a waste of their effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:24 PM
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It might be that a shorter stature might have benefits in the future (higher gymnastic ability, can run faster). I think an individual should sort for their own physical weaknesses and try to compensate. On point 2; being able to sustain a family comfortably is enough imo. Who said anything about 5 women? Monogamy benefits women. There is a growing number of single childfree women for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:23 PM
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See growing number or single childfree women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:19 PM
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See point 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:19 PM
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Im hoping that people with antisocial traits will be filtered out of the gene pool. We have prisons, but yes, male coercion does exist in sexual selection. Abortion rights I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:18 PM
2

Pro basketball players often don’t have point number 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:17 PM
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I mean, single childfree women are a growing population… and that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:17 PM
2

Touchè
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:16 PM
2

I think its rational but not pragmatic. There are many people that get into a relationship for other reasons that just lead to children. And alot of the time its not great for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:16 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:14 PM
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There is the reason this post is prescriptive. Imo violent and anti-social men have hijacked reproduction, by using systemic oppression to coerce women into reproductive decisions that they wouldn’t otherwise have made. And now the world is overpopulated, antisocial behaviour is high, and the globe is warming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:14 PM
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Not really, there are 8 billion people on the planet. How far ahead in time are we talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:11 PM
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Humanity has had a good run.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:09 PM
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It doesn’t. But what Im saying is prescriptive in many aspects, based on evolutionary and sex selection theory, and my own beliefs about how I think society should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:09 PM
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I mean, I must have come in contact with thousands of people in my lifetime. The people who were also attracted me and a relationship is less than 5. So I guess it is what it is. Of course people tend to date for a multitude of reasons, and someones it can end very badly for the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:06 PM
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Also true. I think this should be adhered to more especially in terms of bad health.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:03 PM
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Kind of. Men brutalising women and gatekeeping resources is how we have gotten here actually. And thus we have a society with too many violent, narcissistic people, and climate change is destroying us. Imo women should choose who they reproduce with without systemic coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:01 PM
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There is a growing number of single women for a reason. No matter what your ideal of beauty is, number 2 and 3 should not be an option if you want kids. Remember Im referring to reproduction specifically and not dating generally. Just don’t try to make a hoe a husband (or daddy).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:57 PM
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I only started having this perspective after being with men. My standards have actually climbed with every successive relationship after realising how much you have to insure yourself as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:54 PM
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Well in individual terms maybe there aren’t many people who will meet what you want. And this is why people are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:52 PM
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Unfortunately sexual selection is not fair. Men bare more of the brunt of being selected and women bare more of the brunt of creating and caring for children. We all have crosses to bare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:51 PM
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Not necessarily, genetic variability is good for society, and attractive people exist in all races and creeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:50 PM
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Men are open to it. If men choose to bust in women that won’t make good mothers, that is on them. I can only promote what I think is optimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:49 PM
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And men do choose, when they have enough resources and good looks they DO choose. But in general the baby carriers are the more selective sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:45 PM
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That is not true at all. Species that overpopulate tend to die off when they run out of resources which is literally what we are seeing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:42 PM
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That and other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:41 PM
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This happens also
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:40 PM
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Well the idea is that a percentage of women won’t reproduce if they cannot find a mate. Which we see playing out with so many women choosing to be single and child free. The soil sifts itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:39 PM
2

Going to the gym, be back in 2 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:55 PM
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Its cumulative imo. No one will be perfect, but a high average is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:53 PM
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Life is full of meaning and heartbreak and suffering. We should aim to limit the suffering by creating children with the best possible start.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:35 PM
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I mean, they can and they should. I would like to hear their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:35 PM
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Altruism; disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others Its my concern for children (and the adults they become) that aren’t considered enough by their parents reproductive decisions that fuels this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:34 PM
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Its not a policy. Its a collective decision that individuals choose to make based on their own judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:32 PM
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Well it is true that a growing number of women are choosing to be single and childfree by choice, and I think this is evolutionarily aligned. Females tend to selectively reproduce when the circumstances/ habitat / environment support it. And if men chose to selectively date only the top women, or alternatively choose to stop reproducing at all, then the world would be a much better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:30 PM
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Imo opinion the same criteria, good physical traits that signify health, good financial standing in case you die, good motherhood characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:28 PM
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Working on yourself can improve your physical looks, your financial standing and your prosocial and altruistic traits. Again, I think its a culmination of these three traits that makes someone the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:27 PM
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Well a lot of women are choosing to be single and childfree if they don’t find a good match, and I think this is the best option than settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:25 PM
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Well, there is a reason that the male of bird species tend to be very colourful compared to the female of the species. Sexual selection. Sexy sons hypothesis. But yes, if you are the top 20% of women, do not date down, and select positive attributes that you might lack. But women in general should aim for the best men or nothing in my humble opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:24 PM
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I guess its evolution over ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:21 PM
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I mean sexual selection does not go both ways as far as I understand the theory. Women in general are the baby carriers and so generally they are also the more selective sex. I do understand though how a short woman might want a very tall man to give her children a better chance at being tall, and why tall women are less concerned about being with a very tall man (this is just an impression that I have gotten). And ideally yes, men should be picking women that he can create successful children w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:20 PM
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Many women choose to be single and childfree than to be with a subpar male. This is just based on the data about the growing number of single and childfree women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:17 PM
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Why is it unhealthy? That’s like saying apples are unhealthy simply because they are a popular fruit The growing rates of single and childfree by choice women seems to refute that Different weights is fine, but its a cumulative imo Average people will exist, because generics can appear in many different ways, but I think if the average of people had better parental relationship, then it would create a better world all round.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:15 PM
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We live in a capitalist world. Poverty is one of the biggest factors that leave to Adverse Childhood experiences, which leads to poor mental and physical outcomes. I wish it were not the case, but the world is not kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:11 PM
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I think it will result in cultural mixing more than anything, heterogenesis actually results in healthier offspring. Some cultures will be disproportionate affected unfortunately due to economics though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:09 PM
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I guess evolution is misandrist then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:06 PM
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They don’t do it enough imo. I believe that if a man changes his mind about the pregnancy then the best option is abortion. Humans are very resource intensive animals. One parent is often not enough to grow a healthy child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:06 PM
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Do you have other qualities that boost you overall? Are you good father material? Are you fit and healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:05 PM
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Its sexual selection, not eugenics. You must be really mad at evolution too then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 03:58 PM
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I’ve only seen that with women that are childfree publicly reject single fathers tbh. You are not getting decimated publicly and used and a insult. It is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:19 PM
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Its the same as refusing to date a drug addict. Its up to you what you can manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:44 PM
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Yes Yes - the only stipulation I have is seriously consider getting her pregnant if you want her to be perma-thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:43 PM
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The amount of women that are sugar babies is minuscule when you are talking about he economy. Especially the amount of women that can make that a serious career without supplementation. Especially in comparison to the fact that men control the majority of every powerful institution in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:40 PM
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OP made a comparative judgement; that single dads are discriminated against more. So the argument is about who is criticised more. Single mothers or single fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:38 PM
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“Showing commitment” when you literally broke one of the biggest commitments you could ever make; marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:36 PM
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Well, women aren’t all over the internet decimating single mothers at every turn. Making them a lesser class of women is a form of discrimination imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:35 PM
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Its also inefficient in terms of time and resources. Its takes an awful amount of effort to lovebomb someone, and then go through various cycles or incrementally higher abuse, and then back to lovebombing when they try to leave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:30 AM
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There are a few issues here. But the “judgement” is a major part of it. When people post thirst traps, the idea is to get sexual attention from people online. Their representation of themselves is motivated by getting this type of audience. However people might have other reasons for dressing sexily, or posting pictures of themselves. For example; the might be aware that being attractive will get them better treatment in society so they aim to be attractive, they might be really proud of their b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:28 AM
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There are assumptions made about gender. And men do have an expectation to be benevolent to their female partners. I could only compare two examples though, because a lot of posts have been deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:09 AM
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You still have to be selective, and you still have to reciprocate interest that is already there. And also take rejection well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:48 AM
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Well I look at the data. Statistically, women are more prosocial, women have higher rates of fidelity, women are more emotionally and socially intelligent. On paper, the average woman makes a better partner than the average man. However women choose to stay single for many different reasons. Maybe they want to focus on their career or education or mental health. Maybe they have come to the perspective that they can’t be a good partner during this time. For some women, being single is a choice. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:36 AM
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Nope. Statistically women invest more in the home than men do even when they work the same wage. They cook more, clean more, take care of the kids more and take care of their partners more. They are the better partner all round. Men walking away from marriage is actually saving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:32 AM
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The men that walk away from marriage wouldn’t make good husbands anyway. They should continue to opt out if that is best for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:15 PM
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They want to have sexual access to multiple people. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:54 AM
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No, its because of sexual conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:44 PM
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That is not true. There are so many men that change their mind from 3 months onwards. There are so many men that simply dip because being a father is a lot harder than they thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:45 AM
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They didn’t make it work. Some single parents are barely keeping it together and their children suffer as a consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:44 AM
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That is not true at all. And yes poverty is a causation. The reason children in poverty have poorer outcomes is … poverty. Cheaper but poorer quality food. Parents that have to work 60 hours leaving them barely home. No access to after school clubs that cost money, or tutors, or suitable childcare. Schools that do not have the resources to educate them adequately. High rates of crime in poorer areas. Please familiarise yourself with the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:40 AM
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So for you the answer is no, but you think your child could be happy anyway, despite statistics on outcomes of child poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:09 PM
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How ready are you to be a father?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:10 PM
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Are you prepared to be a father? How would you prepare to be a single parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:09 PM
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Assuming you are not a virgin, what fatherhood readiness steps have you taken?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:05 PM
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So you are partially pro-life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:05 PM
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What about fatherhood readiness? Are you in a good position to give a child a good life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:04 PM
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Are you ready to be a father? Assuming that you aren’t a virgin, what steps have to taken in preparation for an unplanned pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:04 PM
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As compared to other groups doesn’t natter if you are still voting against abortion. Unless you are fully meeting the need, then children will still grow up in unsuitable environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:02 PM
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That’s two days a year. Who initiates the relationships talks, who makes sure you are spending quality time and doing dates. Who is the one that makes sure the home is clean and tidy, food in the fridge, clothes to wear?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:14 PM
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You are just talking about the initiation of the relationship. Women do the bulk of the actual meat of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:12 PM
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Nope. You are conflating two different things. Enthusiastic consent has been floated to give men that can’t seem to get it a blueprint for how to interact sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:03 PM
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That is unfortunate. Kids shouldn’t be graded more poorly just because they are assholes. We should move to standardised testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:01 PM
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Citations please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:54 PM
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That is false. Pedagogy was desigbed by men for men before women were allowed to study. However men tend to have higher rates of ADHD for example, which means that they might need to be educated differently in order to help then learn. This is not a conspiracy, but more just the natural disposition of men learning in a more kinetic way, and women being able to sit down at a desk and internalise information without the need to move around a lot for a long period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:53 PM
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Their are confounding variables that you are not paying attention to; Life expectancy ; men take more risks and are less likely to engage in healthy lifestyle practises which affect life span. Men also do more dangerous jobs which are legitimate, but women also tend to cook on open fires which leads to a shorter life expectancy. Education; men and boys actually struggle in school a lot more than women, and might need special education practices that help them learn. They also tend to be NEET whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:48 PM
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Men want the good old days where they are guaranteed a woman. Women are realising that the good old days were actually trash for women and would rather have a cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:43 PM
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Yeah but his self esteem will be eviscerated, and he will eventually get dumped by her. Cue the bitterness. Its best to work on yourself (both inside and out) and take a break from dating than put yourself through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:42 PM
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Lack of enthusiastic consent is not the benchmark for SA anyway. It’s an approach that has been floated to avoid SA. Your argument is void.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:40 PM
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Its much harder for men to fake experience than women. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:37 PM
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Because the data doesn’t lie. Paternity fraud is in the single digits when it comes to propensity. However domestic violence starting upon marriage and pregnancy is incredibly common. If men stopped beating up their pregnant partners then there wouldn’t be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:30 PM
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I mean, being social won’t fix ugly. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:26 PM
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Women in your social circle can vouch for you to women out of your social circle. That’s the benefit of having female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:24 PM
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I think it should be done in utero, so the child support payments start from day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:23 PM
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And if it also comes with automatic child support on proving paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:22 PM
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You go first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:57 PM
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Instead of getting mad, just keep yourself up and Im sure some woman out there will still want you. Wear suncream, work out, earn more, take finasteride. There is no need to despair ok? 😢 😂😂 If all else fails their is also VR OnlyFans
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:49 PM
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They are if they want a 20-25 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:47 PM
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I didn’t say people with disabilities hit the wall. I said where there are added disabilities, the difference between men and women in terms of desirability gets wider.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:46 PM
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Nope, just wondering why you are so triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:45 PM
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Well congrats to him, but he should be working on his looks. I would recommend finasteride though if he wants to keep her. And cosmetic surgery as he continues to wrinkle. If she both has the looks and the money then the chances are that marriage will not last very long at all. Statistically speaking that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:17 PM
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I bet you she did it because his money outweighs his looks. That’s literally all men have going for them when they start to lose testosterone and their hairline recedes. Wait until she is 36 and he is 42 and men at work start giving her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:39 PM
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The pay wall had to be very steep in order to make up for the facial defects of male ageing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:29 PM
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Exactly. Which is why ideas of the wall are pretty asinine. But if we were to legitimate it, across the board men struggle to attract mates more than women, on every level and in every category. Including this “wall”. Let’s not even talk added variables like autism or disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:29 PM
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Oh no absolutely not. Where I work I see a lot of 40ish men. Many of them don’t even get a sniff of pussy. As a man you have to be rigorous about looking after yourself physically if you want to compete with the younger men that are naturally good looking and youthful, and in their testosteronial prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:25 PM
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But it becomes even harder for men. Once you lose your hair, unless your have an above average face, half the women who might have once been interested in you will be MIA. To recomp that you might have to have, say a 10-20% increase in salary year on year to still compete for the same women, depending on how many follicles on your hear are going to the grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:23 PM
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I think its far worse for men because men already have such a difficult standard to reach when it comes to being attractive to women. And then when men start to bald, the uphill battle becomes Everest. For women she might lose some of her looks, but even then she might go from being attractive to 60% of men down to say 45% of men, which are still great odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:20 PM
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Ummm, Im not sure. The way that men are thirsty for women that simply happen to wear leggings online, I think it take much more than reaching thirty for their dicks not to respond. If only this were the case tbh …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:18 PM
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I agree, your opinion probably does not matter, but I see a chink in your logic. If this were the case then why aren’t all men in Hollywood like Leonardo Di Caprio? Why would the Chad of all Chad, Henry Cavill, propose to a 35 year old woman? Why would Ryan Reynolds, stay married to a “post wall woman” 36 year old women? Why would Thor of all people, stay married to a 48 year old woman? Why are most of these top 2% men married to post wall women when they have all the opportunity to cycle throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:16 PM
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Well their is a category below disinterest and that is disgust. Its fine if a woman does not find you attractive, and simply declines your advances. Its a whole new level of rejection is a woman actively recoils in disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:10 PM
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I think they gain marginal money, status is dependant. Earning more money as a man later in life might not necessarily compensate for the declining looks. I know plenty of men that have gotten bread winner partners simply on their looks alone, but again, its an uphill battle for men. The worse they age the more money they have to make to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:09 PM
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I’ll write a list from my observations; Balding Grey Nose hair Beer Belly Decaying teeth Halitosis Narrow shoulders A strange acidic smell Jowly (?) Hairy ears Bush life eyebrows Small chest Hunch backed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:06 PM
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Its called skin care and hygiene. Which reminds me, have you put on your SPF 30 moisturiser today?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:03 PM
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That is simply not true. The average older man is bald, beer bellied, narrow shouldered, and has terrible teeth. There is a bottom-less pit of ugly just waiting to swallow them into insignificance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:02 PM
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You are very emotional. Maybe sit down, count to ten, and think some happy thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:01 PM
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Did I hit a nerve? 😢😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:00 PM
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Childfree is the future women are choosing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:59 AM
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You have put a lot of thought into this. I guess you have heard of the growing number of childfree women though. Might thwart your plan a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:59 AM
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Women tend to vote on the left so we are good on that. And whiskey and guns are both more expensive than wine and cat food. But brain matter and wine are both difficult to get out of carpet, I’ll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:57 AM
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Both men and women have declining fertility the older they get. Old man sperm = disabled babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:55 AM
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But then look at the reverse. Men of all ages tend to be attracted to young women 20-25. A 60 yr old man has such an unrealistic understanding of his SMV that he thinks he could ever get with a woman a third his age. Sexual Over Perception Bias predominantly happens in men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:53 AM
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Who said anything about date? The older women I see come for a night out, flirt with a few Handsome guys till 2, and then leave alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:50 AM
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I actually think men created that industry not women. Women didn’t have their legs until corporate marketers decide it was feminine to be hairless. Sexual desirability =/= sexuality. Women are more desirable to men than men are desirable to women. She could be wearing sweats and a bin bag and still be desirable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:49 AM
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Its still interest, where as their male equivalents get next to no interest. Not without substantial payment first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:17 AM
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If you equate not getting sex to being a defective human, then you should equally have sympathy for women who have men that won’t marry them. In our society a women who doesn’t get chosen for marriage is less than. Do you have empathy for both?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:50 AM
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There are some great therapists that would live to support these people. I hear they offer empathy as well as sympathy. What a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:48 AM
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FYI Male ejaculation and the male orgasm are two separate functions that happen to coincide typically. That is why men can train themselves to have multiple orgasms or have dry orgasms. Additionally the female orgasm is a positive reinforcement of sexual activity. Without that reward, there would be next to no physiological drive for women to sex. And lastly fertilisation of the egg is more likely to happen when a woman orgasms possibly due to the contractions women have during orgasm that pull …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:40 AM
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No, women take it seriously. Men don’t care about things that don’t affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:38 AM
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This is a problem men have created. It is simple stimulus and reward. If a woman has sex with you and gets an orgasm out of it, you have positively reinforced her having sex with you. Men en masse haven’t done that and in fact made sex unpleasurable for women (rape and SA and general poor sexual behaviour). This is the consequence of your own actions. Take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:35 AM
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I remember researching sex and male sexuality when I was a virgin. I googled the anatomy of men, I googled how to give a blowjob, what sex feels like for a man, I even googled prostate orgasms. I was invested because I cared about my partners pleasure, even when I didn’t have one. Female pleasure is not so hard to figure out. There is so much information about erogenous zones and how to stimulate them. It shouldn’t take you having to have sex in which women regret for you to learn, especially as…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:31 AM
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Yep. And for older fathers too. It showed that men in their 30s are 1.6 times as likely to have a child with autism as men under 30; men in their 40s have a sixfold increase. Nearly all of this research has shown an increased prevalence of autism among the children of older fathers. the odds of autism among children born to fathers older than 45 are about 75 percent higher than for children born to fathers in their early 20s. And a 2010 analysis of Swedish data found that men over 55 are four ti…
/r/Divorce_Men08/06/24 01:19 PM
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Yeah, but bare in mind you are competing with men that are 23-29 that probably look a lot better than a man past his peak.
/r/Divorce_Men08/06/24 01:09 PM
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I think it’s likely that alot of women filter you out because you are a divorced single dad, and the only women who interested are women ready for a family or already have kids. I just don’t see women that are single, never married/ divorced with no kids settling for a divorced single Dad in his that’s almost 40’s, and demoting themselves to the position of stepmother.
/r/Divorce_Men08/06/24 01:08 PM
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So you not fucking many women then, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:57 PM
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Well if you haven’t locked it down yet then you are all free agents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:57 PM
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That’s like asking who wouldn’t want to get fucked by Henry Cavil or Jacob Elordi? If you want a purely sexual experience, why wouldn’t you pick the most attractive and highly skilled partner you could possibly get?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:56 PM
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If a man wants casual sex then his best bet is to be as attractive as he can possibly be. If you are ugly it doesn’t matter how much of a bad bot you are, you are still ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:50 PM
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They don’t make women wait for sex because women are the ones who control access to sex. They don’t make anyone wait because its generally out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:47 PM
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She isn’t a waste of time, she just doesn’t find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:45 PM
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Well a serious guy would be willing to cultivate an emotional attachment before sex. And if he isn’t then he isn’t serious is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:44 PM
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If a woman doesn’t really want to have sex with you it’s probably because you just aren’t sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:41 PM
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I think its more than that. I think its biology. Males reproductively want access to lots of women. That’s a very successful way of surviving your genes to the next generation. This goal sometimes gets in the way of other aspects of your life. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:07 PM
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Debunk it then. What straw man have I used?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:52 PM
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Again, how was that quantified. All data Im seeing is that the women do more of the domestic labour and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:57 PM
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And that’s why women don’t want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:55 PM
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Unfortunately I don’t have he book. Can you site some studies in which men doing more housework doesn’t improve relationships. Also in your anecdotes, how was the division of household labour quantified?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:49 PM
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Search insecure attachment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:45 PM
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But being - better person, have self mastery and autonomy is a great achievement men don’t seem to care about obtaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:44 PM
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Exactly. Women aren’t a trophy. We are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:43 PM
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Women are socialised to nurture not just by nature. I think the differences between genders would be much much less without socialisation and is greatly overstated. And this nurturing is evolutionarily towards CHILDREN not grown men . Women since childhood have to do the lion-share of taking care of everyone else in the household. We required to put in so much effort to look nice for men, to look slim enough but thick enough for men. We are required to listen to men when they talk ad nauseum, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:37 PM
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She just has a high sex drive I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:21 PM
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Don’t you think he wants to be a father too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:19 PM
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I think you need to bare in mind sexual differences in men and women. Men just want to reproduce. Women want to survive their offspring. It seems that this non-concordance is an evolutionary adaptation which modifies a woman’s arousal. Men with high testosterone tend to be more violent. So even though though high testosterone is attractive to women, there also needs to be modifying factor that prevents a woman and her offspring being harmed by her sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:05 PM
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Depends what you mean by better. Unfortunately many men desire a woman to control and exploit (see Andrew Tate) so in their eyes its seen as “better”. But it is also really difficult trying to control someone’s every move and it can be consuming to an abuser. They spend their whole lobes keeping tabs on their partner’ and they feel very disregulated when their partner doesn’t do what they want, or they feel like they are losing control over them. But most relationship experts - therapists, psych…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:57 PM
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I think most women were ok with a guy just as long as her was taller. Now a lot of women want 6ft+ and I see it as a kind of trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:51 PM
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Not true - look up avoidant attachment style. These types of people run away when they feel attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:51 PM
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Someone can be attracted to their partner, but simply have a skill deficit. Communication involved a lot os socio-emotional processing which has a key period of development within childhood. So they may be attracted to their partner, but just not be able to use language to express themselves enough to sustain a relationship. People have different needs in terms of relationship input. Introversion and extroversion is a perfect example - introverted people may just naturally require less social in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:50 PM
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Nope. All of it is not. Common interests means you have something to talk about which can build a kinship and an emotional bond. Have you ever wondered why people at a sports match can cry and hug each other even if they are strangers? Its because that common interest builds an emotional bond during an event both of them love. A high % of divorce is caused by financial strain. Its especially important if there is a mismatch in lifestyles (one person can go on expensive vacations and another can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:33 PM
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Women are attracted to height. But insecurity in general can just be very draining to be around. Insecure people become obsessed with their insecurities and get emotional when their insecurities arise. A good time is never a good time, it always ends up in you trying to convince them that they have value. Its just unpleasant to be around. Also, think about it this way - if there are two people advertising their stores’. One person is confident about his wares and believes you will enjoy your sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:20 PM
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I think its more about having a financial capacity to have the kind of lifestyle that is comfortable to luxury. Jobs that women might be attracted to (artsy jobs like being an artist, musician, film-maker, writer) are good for younger women but are not great for financial longevity which will attract women beyond adolescence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:13 PM
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Men are attracted to masculinity (if not sexually, but in terms of status). Women are actually attracted to masculine traits with a high mix of traits that would be beneficial to her offspring, usually seen as feminine traits. For example, selflessness, pro-sociality, being good with kids (or animals). Even the masculine traits women are attracted to are tapered towards pro-sociality. Men like risk taking behaviour, women only like risk taking behaviour when its aimed at heroism (ie being a fire…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:10 PM
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You’re right, she should have left her sick father to die and concentrated on herself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/23 10:35 PM
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So how do you expect a woman to have a low body count but also be willing to fuck you? Women with low body counts don’t fuck men that easily. That’s what you want right? So which is it?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/23 10:34 PM
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but in your oppinion a woman doesnt need to ensure that HER egg doesnt come into contact with the sperm!? If a woman doesnt want a child she will take contraception or terminate the pregnancy. If she decided to keep the child then that man will be legally obligated to financially support that child. So yes, where you put your sperm is your responsibility. No glove no love. so in your oppinion the man is the only one that caries the responsibility for sexual behavior, but the woman is not respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:58 PM
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but in your oppinion a woman doesnt need to ensure that HER egg doesnt come into contact with the sperm!? If a woman doesnt want a child she will take contraception or terminate the pregnancy. If she decided to keep the child then that man will be legally obligated to financially support that child. So yes, where you put your sperm is your responsibility. No glove no love. so in your oppinion the man is the only one that caries the responsibility for sexual behavior, but the woman is not respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:58 PM
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Guilty of impregnating her? Yes. A man should do everything he can to ensure that his sperm does not enter the cervix of a woman if he does not want her to become pregnant. This is basic biology that doesnt have to be explained - do you know how babies are made? Its called being responsible for your sexual behaviour. Another precaution would be to ensure she is using a contraceptive (preferable one that can be seen), and even vetting your sexual partners in terms of their political inclinations …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:30 PM
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Tbh Im more concerned with the way they interact with themselves. I wish men had better socisl curcles, with the ability to have better relationships with everyone in their lives. It would make our platonic/ romantic relationships more balanced in turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:40 PM
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Well, when Incels feel bad they gather in a forum and encourage each other to commit suicide. Whats the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:30 PM
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In this case they are both what you would define as alphas. She said she has an open, fwb rrlationship with him. Seems like "alpha" behaviour to me. But more contextually, she seems like a really troubled woman that has been through dome type of trauma. Stop using cases like these to support your pseudo scientific ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:28 PM
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As for women who are purely interested in sex, additional size doesn't make that much difference. I beg to differ, good Sir. For me oersonally anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:30 PM
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I put in my profile my size preference. exchange nudes before agreeing to sleep with him Yes, but also nudes can be deceitful which is why [see above].
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:29 PM
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“Image oriented, distance focused, and no character references” It prioritises physical features over other (arguable more important) points of overlap such as religion, political orientation, education level, diet, and goals such as childfree/ child-wanting, type of relationships etc. This orients itself to relationships that have sexual compatibility but not much else. I’m not trying to be rude, but if you just have anecdotes, then I’m not sure why I’d believe your anecdotes over mine. I’ve ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:26 PM
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Well tbh when I was looking for a Fuckbuddy, I prioritised dick size, kink, hosting potential, then face. He can wear a gimp mask for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:48 PM
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I talking about a strictly sexual relationship, as this forum tends to focus on attaining hook-ups rather than more longer term romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:46 PM
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The app has a target market and a main demographic, just like all products. It also has an intended use. Its pretty obvious from its design (image oriented, with a focus on distance between users, and not required information based on character, thats its a hook up app). You can do a side by side analysis with other apps, OKC, POF, eHarmony etc, if you really wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:25 PM
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Tbh I feel like people engage in the narratives they on a whole agree with. Ive noticed that usually you'll just get a downvote if there is a post that goes against RP. And in general I find RP to be misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:03 PM
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Is that what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:57 AM
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So you dont believe the studies that show the quantitive difference between emotional responses say, of an infant to that of a child? Neuroscience can materially detect signs of maturation in terms of emotional development. Materialism itself asserts that mental states are a result of material interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:49 AM
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Here, you forgot this; "/s".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:42 AM
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I think this conversation ought to go beyond just sex tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:41 AM
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Individuals don't have to engage in online dating if they dont want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:40 AM
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Religion can be pretty bad for confidence I think. Its all that judgement. A parallel standard for women Could you expand on this? Im not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:39 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:38 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:37 AM
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-_-
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:37 AM
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Toxic behaviors work just fine for women so why the hell would a man care? That deep, cognitive, internal belief - the thing that motivates your every step, the electicity in your blood, the feeling that yes, I walked this earth, doing everything that I felt I should have, powered by my own sense of what was right and wrong. Despite the whole world being against me, I was immovable from my path, and my principles were steel bars rooting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:37 AM
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A very reductionist take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:34 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:34 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:33 AM
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I feel like it can't compare to real work re social and emotiobal intelligence that many men seem to be missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:33 AM
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XD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:32 AM
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With all the work Im putting in, I want my Propanganda Checque. Who can I bill it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:32 AM
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Your motivation has to come from withi Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:31 AM
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This is a topic about mens mental health, and the sad state that it is in worldwide. And you do think this is a Man's Issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:30 AM
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Women on the other hand need to be more transparent with what they want in dating. Telling the men they reject WHY they reject them. Being honest and not hiding the real reasons for rejection. I feel like a lot of men would respond really poorly to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:29 AM
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I dont think this needs to be something you convince of someone. I think men should stop seeing a womans choice to not have sex with them as an affront, or some form of oppression. Relationships in general are complicated, and there are so many variables that make sexual relationships hard to come by at times (libido, stress, other relational problems, lack of connection, physical/physiological problems etc). I think one needs to be able to separate their ability to obtain sex from a woman, from…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:28 AM
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Doesn't answer the post tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:21 AM
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TRP doesnt teach positive self development. If you have to tear someone else down to bring yourself up, its a good indicator that your odea of confidence is actually a misguided sense of superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:21 AM
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Accept that women don’t want to fuck as much as you, so you will never be satisfied So in your eyes, sex is the only objective?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:20 AM
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Sports, martial arts ect when young. So all men that study martial arts and play sports have emotional and socially intelligence? Is that what your saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:19 AM
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Do men reward empathy, emotional and social intelligence in other men? Is that something you do? There's so much that's wrong in your message I don't even know where to begin Use your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:18 AM
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Confidence comes from the success from seeing the results of self reflection. You went on a date. You thought it went well. She didnt want to see you again. You look back at the date and realise she would widen her eyes whenever you ordered a new bottle of wine, and laugged nervously when you began to slurr your words - you drank too much. OR You blame her, call her a bitch and continue with the exact same behaviour as your last date. Which is the strategy that will end in success?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:17 AM
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lonely and facing rejection Plenty of people experience loneliness and rejection, and yet are still able to form lasting, beautiful fulfilling relationships. Many people are single, and can still form lasting relationship. A great example is RP forums, why are RP men still complaininh about loneliness when they have the opportunity to build connections with potentially thousands of men in theae communities. What are the variables contributing to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:11 AM
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Have emotional and social inteligence means that you are able to see romantic relationships beyond the attainment of sex. The focus of sex, in my experience, is often a sign of immaturity. You have to value yourself beyond your abilitynto simply be a sex toy. Its dehumanising. Again; self respect, and self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:08 AM
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Define "results". An important part of high self esteem, is having motivation system that is based on your own values and beliefs, and jot that solely conditioned on what others think of you. If other people opinions are the only thing you value, then you sense of self will ultimately be fickle and fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:06 AM
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RP doesn't promote healthy self development. It promotes treating other people like they are less than, and using manipulation tactics to "obtain" sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:03 AM
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Well thats because you need to learn what boundaries and self respect is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 04:08 PM
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I have to add the Incel Dismorphia VAT to this comment, which puts you within the firm Normie tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:29 PM
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You're a normie my friend. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:15 PM
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I know bad but I'm weak Aren't we all? And I bet you're very handsome. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:55 PM
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You want to elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:53 PM
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Signs of a unfit sexual partner means that I’m probably not attracted to them in the first place, which is a pretty easy tell. Interesting. Its nice to see a man with standards. Thats pretty unvommon around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:30 PM
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Damn, you need to be used on an ad for Anti-BabyTrap. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:27 PM
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Damn, Im sorry about that. How did you find out she did that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:25 PM
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Hopefully your good luck continues and I havent jinxed it with this comment. I'll stop talking now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:01 PM
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Yup, which is why I prefer a FWB type situatiom with someone I know and trust, rather than ONS. The risk is just pretty high for things going wrong in cases of the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:59 PM
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Nah, usually its "wtf am I watching?!" and lights out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:45 PM
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Well, there are legal repurcussions for using bodily fluids without consent. Ethical and legal considerations regarding the ownership and commercial use of human biological materials and their derivatives If I then use your dna to create a child should you have to pay for it because you willingly gave your dna to the state? This seems closer to reproductive coercion, which is rightfully against the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:07 PM
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What part of financial abortion do you not understand? Calm down. despite the father's protests The best way to protest agsinst a pregnancy is to wear a comdom. Did he fully take advantage of his condom-wearing rights? goes AGAINST the bodily autonomy of men for the NEXT 18 YEARS! Again, his bodily autonomy should have been used to prevent his sperm fertilising an egg. Condom use and abstinence are brilliant methods of doing this. men should be allowed to decide whether they want to financially …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:52 PM
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So you dont fantasise about a womdn blowing you or riding you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:43 AM
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"Body autonomy is the right for a person to govern what happens to their body without external influence or coercion." Once the sperm leaves a person body, then you can argue that its not part of your body anymore. Even more so when that sperm joins with an egg and becomes a foetus. It technically is no longer a sperm, but something else*. If that sperm is still apart of your body, then you have full control over what you do with it (ie allow it to be ejaculated into someone without a condom**).…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:39 AM
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Agreed. This r/ can close now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:15 AM
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So skinny 20-25 year olds are being too shallow if they want to date other skinny 20-25 year olds? Are all RedPill men skinny and 20-25?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:54 PM
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Male Entitlement = Feeling entitled to sex, womens attention, and taking rejection extremely poorly. These are often towards specific women that they encounter. Basically Incels. What you state as "female entitlement" is just high self esteem and the expectation to be treated well in a relationship. If someone is treating you poorly then yes, you do deserve someone better. That doesn't mean you get to dictate who that "someone better" is, and demand that they be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:10 AM
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Its a low bar, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:12 PM
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So you do well with meeting people irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:11 PM
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Keep the hope alive I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:09 PM
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Well damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:09 PM
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People that manage form healthy relationships 100% have character traits that lend more easier to dating than Incels, Redpillers, Chad-envious etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:08 PM
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their envy of Chads is a convenient scapegoat from other more pressing personality flaws that discount them from being viable partners , which is why giving them dating advice never works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:02 PM
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Where did you meet your LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:00 PM
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Actually its nature and nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:59 PM
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Men would have more options too is they didnt just date skinny women from 20-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:59 PM
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False. Why do you think it takes a woman so long to get ready in the morning? Why does she spend so much on clothes, shoes, hair, make-up, nails, diet, eyebrows, gym, control wear, fillers, lip injections. Men lift 3 times a week and go to the barber for a 10 minute hair cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:58 PM
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Read my title again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:55 PM
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In the same way that supermodels have an easier time getting men. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:54 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:53 PM
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Right, so that means all other women should just lay down and rot right? I thought thats what your advocating. Because the average woman doesn't look like Adriana Lima we should all just start a society under a bridge, cover ourselves in feces and Reeee at all the men that wont date us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:52 PM
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Did I say they did?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:50 PM
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Yup. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:49 PM
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Social skills, conversational skills and tact are not character traits. They're cultivated abilities. Call them what you will. Everything I mentioned can still be learned. They aren't sexually attractive. They aren't sexually attractive I see the men that look like those on Incels.co, and Rate My Face all the time on relationships, with women that are similar levels of attractive. That's not the starting point. The starting point is to form them up as men and teach them what's attractive. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:45 PM
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Please support your thesis with something more than a baseless assumption. Incels.co (Thesis? Sir, this is a Wendy's) The term "Chad" is commonly refers to men who are attractive to women on a rather superficial short term basis (looks, appearance etc). Those men have many options. Having many options does not incentivise settling for long term relationships. This doesn't disprove my point. Another baseless assumptions without proof. R/TheRedPill, R/MGTOW Many men don't get to be picky. Plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:37 PM
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Don't change the subject. Are you saying that the only men on this planet that have partners are the top 20% in terms of looks? Are you living in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:32 PM
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Chad doesn't have to have social skills, conversational skills, tact, self esteem, or any of those other things that are must haves for non Chads. Neither does Adriana Lima. Chad can have the personality and social skills of a tree stump and women will still line up to suck his dick. So can Adriana Lima. So why should I put in the kind of effort you're describing when Chad doesn't have to? Why should [women] put in any kind of effort in when Adriana Lima doesn't have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:30 PM
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Did I say that it did?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:09 PM
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Chad has options. Options are power. The more power one has, the better life is, especially if the responsibility that usually comes with power is ameliorated in some way. A lot of them don't understand what it takes to have a long term healthy relationship, which leads to a black and white, me vs them, winners vs losers approach to dating, in which the goal is to never let a person "get one over on you". The belief is that women are inherently malicious and untrustworthy in some way, and theref…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:09 PM
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True. But Chad will still have dysfunctional relationships with people equally as beautiful as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:05 PM
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Women dont say that Chad doesnt have an advantage. They say that looking like a model isn't the only prerequisite to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:02 PM
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Get around better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 02:01 PM
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You'd be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 02:00 PM
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It's quite flattering actually. A little bit of a shock in the morning though ...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:59 PM
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Yeah that's true. We can scrub up nicely, but we accept that we aren't models and just do the best with what we have got. Manosphere men seem to struggle with this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:58 PM
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False. Many men do unconsentual poly ie cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:43 AM
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At the minute men. Chads are the the average man like Victoria Secrets Models are to the average women. Yes we all wish we were that sexy, but we understand that's just a fantasy and we move on. Well, the functional section of society do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:41 AM
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I think the best way for him to have addressed this situation, was address it. Have a conversation about not feeling like your on the same page. Not feeling connected. Pushing for sex just seems misguided when its clear that your partner is detached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:37 AM
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They don't realise that what they think is "no make-up" is actually "natural make-up".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:29 AM
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Traditionally yes. But times are a-changing hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:22 AM
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Communication =/= agreeing with you. Agreeing to disagree is an example of good communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:03 AM
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You can make him a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 12:58 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 05:09 AM
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Diagnosed with anxiety with panic attacks Man this sucks. Sorry you have to deal with that. Have you always had panic attacks? (If you don't mind me asking.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:49 AM
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I got strung along hard by one girl in my life and it impacted me to a huge extent. It took my best friend to realise what she was doing and that it was toxic af Damn Im sorry about that. Did you ever find out why she did that? Yes with almost all the women in my life. My mum is amazing. I trust my best friend more than anyone I know. I have other female friends who I can rely on if I'm in a rut Wow, Im so happy you have this. You're a lucky man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:48 AM
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Now i just like talking about dating and intergender dynamics. Me too. I find it so interesting. Do you have any recent insights? the most addictive substance I've ever consumed is sugar. Tbh, what I hate about eating disorders is that you need food to live. You can abstain from alcohol and drugs, and live a happy life. What are you supposed to do about food?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:45 AM
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poverty last 4 years How are you holding up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:42 AM
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Now. Why do you ask these very weird and very specific questions? Im nosy. Thanks for responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:40 AM
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Thats for commenting. What do you mean by "non traumatic bullying"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:39 AM
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No, I stayed away from addictive substances because I know I have an addictive, self-destructive personality. Yup, I had to do this too. Im sorry about you Dad too. That must have been tough. I was still a terrible person and a total failure. Did you take a break from dating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:37 AM
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Do you want to be friends? I think we have a lot in common. I'm funny sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:31 AM
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This is something these men need deal with and go to therapy, you know like adults do. Why is it again that men are so afraid of therapy? Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:29 AM
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Ok, I think you are wrestling with this question: Did dating failures cause the mental health issues, or do mental health issues cause dating failures? No, Im asking if Adverse Childhood Experiences can predict an inclination towards RP/ Incel-adjacent ideologies in men (that don't consider themselves the beauty standard). In my experience, the difference between dating successes in non-chads is how they were treated by women in their past when they attempted social interactions. I just want you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:27 AM
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If a woman is like, around, its mostly because one of the men invited her, How do you know these woman dont have their own social group? in my experience to see women who have functionally no close friends outside of work or school Can you tell me more about these women? Have they confided in you that they dont have any close female friends? If any of these women suddenly find themselves in say, a new city or separated from an existing group, theu basically becoke hermits. And they dont keep in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:05 AM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:27 AM
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I would actually argue that being in poverty has a negative correlation with wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:25 AM
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Well actually Evolutionary Psychology would assert that Cognition is adaptive, therefore it is essential to human survival otherwise why have we evolved to have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:24 AM
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In my broader social circle its not uncommon for women to have essentially 0 actual real friends No way, how would you describe your social circle? But looking at women they're often more passive and aren't really used to having to put in the same level of social elbow grease. So if you lose a friend group replacing them seems much harder. I actually disagree with this. I think as a woman we are actually socialised to be more social. So we may seem like we are not very assertive with men romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:20 AM
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Autistic people see the world in a different way, and I think that's such a valuable and beautiful thing. Soery you struggle with understanding oeople at times though. I'm sorry you don't feel loveable. That's never a nice feeling. I posted this because I wanted to know if their is a correlation between ACE scores (Adverse Childhood Experiences)/ mental health issues and redpill/ Incel-adjacent beliefs amongst average looking men. I keep talking to people, and it seems like there's more to this …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:05 AM
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Again, low bar, being a "player" doesn't equate to male wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:55 AM
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Nature also made cognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:54 AM
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If u wanna make a girl suicidal, socially ostracize her. If everyone makes her feel like she’s a bad person, EVERYONE, she won’t want to live. You could say this about any gender, not just women. Men evolved to use violence, anger, linear/logical thinking and aggression to solve their problems. Which is partly why they’re more prone to killing themselves. But this goes against the evolutionary need to survive. So how does that make sense. shaming, name calling, social exclusion, blame shifting, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:53 AM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:49 AM
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I think the point of me asking this is not neccessarily about how attractive a person is, or not being in the top 20%. What Im really interested in is; what is the difference between a Non-chad who is able to partner with women, have fulfilling relationships, and good enough self esteem, from the non-chads that believe their lack of attractiveness is the central defect in their lives, and the root of their unhappiness. I've suspected it for a while that certain male communities are dealing with …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:46 AM
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There’s a reason men commit suicide (successfully) more than women. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:32 AM
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But you would have to prove that people raised with single fathers don't have the same obstacles in terns of Incelness. Also virginity is a pretty low standard when it comes to measuring male welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:31 AM
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Aww Im so glad your in a happy LTR. You don't get to hear that much in this R/. Also congrats on recovering from substance use and food addiction. I don't know you but Im proud. Those things are really hard to recover from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:29 AM
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Ummm... but women also want a suitable partner that can provide for the offspring so they can survive till adulthood. Its about resources also, and those resources include a fit co-parent. I think its a combination of the two (attraction and other characteristics), rather than either/or.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:24 AM
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Yeah I think so. But as a woman I feel like I could make friends easier than the average man can. I feel like with men there is more of a combative nature which can be an obstacle. Correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:19 AM
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Do you understand the idea of a clause within a clause? I said PPM because this is aimed at the men within the subreddit. And then I asserted that from that pool, Im asking specifically the people that consider themselves the bottom 80%. Please don't bring up the Bible. It's not going to support your case. (Unless I get to site Little Red Riding Hood and my imaginary friend Ted.) And if you understand anything about correlation, its that evolutionary psychology doesn't account for 100% of human …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:17 AM
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I can't agree with you I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:09 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:05 AM
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I agree. Tbh I wish there was more of a brother with men. I really like male camraderie, that's a lot of fun, but men don't seem to be as supported by their peers as their female equivalents. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:04 AM
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Well damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:02 AM
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Can I ask, what do you mean by "failings"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:02 AM
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Self sabotage sucks. I know how you feel. Thanks for answering. Its appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:01 AM
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Thanks for answering. Its appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:00 AM
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Or they just never had a good example of a functional healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:00 AM
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Did I say correlation = causation? Did I say PPM = the bottom 80%? And when has evolutionary psychology ever been concrete? By definition it's a field tested using correlation because evolution can never be an independant variable. Also, correlation is also an important statistical measure. I don't know why you're attempting to discredit it. The questions Ive asked are purposely along the lines of correlation not causation. Why do you think I asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:55 AM
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I'm really flattered that you'd call me an armchair psychologist. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:49 AM
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Thanks for answering, Im sorry about your Dad. I hope your holding up ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:28 AM
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Thanks for your response. Sorry you were bullied as a kid. You didn't deserve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:24 AM
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I'm sorry you're having, and have had a rough time. Thanks for answering though. I appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:19 AM
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Of the 3million SA profiles; A) Which of them actually have arrangements B) How many of them are female (men will always pay for sex with attractive young people) C) How many of them receive enough to make a significant difference between their male, non-sex worker counter parts D) Is the 3K figure the mode amount of money made, or a different average? How do you account for girls doing better in high school academically, when education is free? Also, men can do sex work too. You will just have …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 04:28 AM
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Caveat; I'm ok with being called an SJW. I care about social justice more than hurting people that are continually, and historically shitted on. :) Even though RPers co-op the language, they materially fail when it comes to the content of their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 02:25 AM
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For example?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:32 PM
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Why is it ironic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:15 PM
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It has everything to do with men being misogynistic. If men didnt simultaneous only want to obtain sex from women, as well as degrading women that are willing to have sex with them, then women wouldn't feel like they had to "hold out" instead of having sex when they felt they were ready. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 06:20 AM
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Women when offline still have eyes...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:12 AM
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Positive imo. I find everything more straight forward and direct. There was so much uncertainty before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:11 AM
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Men; Emotional intelligence, left wing, average-ish looks..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:08 AM
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A lot of women elect to have a fwb situation with someone they know and feel safe with, and not just a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:10 AM
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Thanks, I appreciate that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:51 AM
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Non sequitur But not irrelevant; just apply the same standards unilaterally and you won't get confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:49 AM
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Some believe that our ideas of masculinity and femininity are completely biologically defined, and not influenced by culture or society in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:47 AM
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Well then it seems to me that your quite discerning, and able to safeguard yourself which is amazing. I found that as long as I stick with your red flag system, and always put my welfare above the need to be in a relationship with someone, I was able to leave, with or without sex. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:44 AM
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I thinkt that's because men can be predatory and misogynistic, not because they dont want sex. Once there is a level of commitment then of course she'll want sex, but that doesn't mean "minimal sex". And most men know that a sexuslly disatisfied partner will most certainly leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:41 AM
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Yeah, and men shouldnt complain when their 22 yo 2nd wife takes half in the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:30 PM
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Yep, they are. But there are sites like Fetlife and Feeld that are more oriented to sexual relationships only. And Tinder tbh. women want investment with minimal sex This is not true at all. Are we still deluding ourselves that women don't want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:28 PM
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Chastity cage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:25 PM
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I worried about the same thing. I thought that I would be inextricably emotionally tied to the first guy I had sex with. It wasnt that way for me at all though. I think maybe because I knew the characterteristics of the people I wanted in my life, and he didnt have them. I'm wondering though, do you ever feel like your emotions for a person override whether they are a good person for you or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:22 PM
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How old are you? Would you like some help with your dating profile? Message me if you would. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:18 PM
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I reject the premise, your ideas of masculinity and feminity are a construct. That being said; more egalitarian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:28 PM
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Agreed. If you want to date try a dating app where the specific objective is to meet someone romantically. Another safer option is approaching people that are friends of friends in a social environment (as a vetting process has somewhat already been done). But be friendly without the specific goal of hooking up. Make friends first and check out her social media. Is she single? Have you got anything common. Do not introduce anything sexual/ romantic unless she initiates it. Never cold approach - …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:18 PM
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Bone structure appearance can be improved with lowering fat percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:26 AM
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This comment killed me lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:24 AM
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Sources needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:21 AM
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So women should be free to fuck Bad Boys without LTR them too right? Or would you hate on her for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:19 AM
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Its apart of growing up imo. Learning to make what you need what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:17 AM
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Not really. Its how you go about it. Dating online its pretty easy to just put "Seeking something casual" in your profile. Or go to a site like Ferlife or Feeld which is more oriented towards sexual relationships only. How much dating experience do you actually have. Just take a look on OKc, there are plenty of people that state exactly what they want in the first few lines of their profile and its not an issue at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:15 AM
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So are you saying people that abstain from sex dont have a myriad of sexual dysfunction? (Here's looking at you, Catholics). Sex is a need for more people. It inherently isn't bad. I think if both partners are mature it really isnt an obstacle. There's also nothing wrong with a strictly sexual relationship. Just be open and honest about your needs and expectaions. That's all that's being asked of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:11 AM
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Aww, cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:20 PM
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This isnt about men with different ideological beliefs. These are all RedPill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:20 PM
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Blasphemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:11 PM
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They've be put out of their misery. They're at peace now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:52 AM
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:0 What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:49 AM
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If you only treat people well if you want something from them it shows how devoid of principles and character you are. But • RP likes to complain about women being attention seekers. But the fact is, if a woman casually flirts with a guy, and partakes in other behaviours that illicit attention, from people she actually has no interest in long term, she has simply recognised a need within herself and taken the neccessary steps to satisfy that need. Thats just being goal oriented. These two points…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:48 AM
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Exactly; "let". Why should one gender have the power to "let" any other partake in the political system?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:31 AM
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Why am I disengenuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:29 AM
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RP hot takes and observations; RP like to say that women live on easy mode, because "women get treated well", and negate the fact that women are only "treated well" if the men they are interacting with are attracted to them. And even then they are still subject to belittling and infantilisation instead of being respected as an equal human being. This being "treated well" is often just harrassment and manipulation to obtain sex. It's fickle and deghumanising. RP like to complain about said "easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:17 PM
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Systemic oppression > Im not a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:16 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:22 AM
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Ok, but do you say the same thing when men call women "land whales"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:12 AM
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Because if this is your main problem in life then you must be very very privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:11 AM
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He wasn't the patient so I dont think it applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:50 AM
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Life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:45 AM
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From all of the stuff I've read online, it actually seems like the power dynamic is 50 50 at best between most sugar daddies and sugar babies. Can you give me some examples of this? I really don't think the dynamics between gay men are the same as the dynamics between male sugar daddies and female sugar babies. There's not as much thirst in the gay community as there is in the straight community (thirst from men). I disagree. The Dynamics between Sugar Daddies and Male Sugar babies with be the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 02:52 PM
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This is lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:44 AM
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That's super interesting. Tbh I think Incels dating men would be god for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:42 AM
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Gay men are known for being even more brutul in terms of physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:40 AM
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Most people in their 40s don't look like that. Be honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:31 AM
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First world problems. So, alone with clean water and free medical care, should we give out sex coupons? XD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:29 AM
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Feminism is a grass roots movement. Be the change you want to see in the world (just don't be toxic about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:28 AM
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Exactly. Glad you agree. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:26 AM
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Feminist causes; Equal pay Sexual freedom The first allows herbto be on the same financially footing as you which means she can pay for dinner, the second allows for her to feel autonomous to choose her mate instead of her mate choosing her. If your blinf to the correlation, it's wilful. Be in denial if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:25 AM
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I like how your taking one point, and instead of linking it with the rest of the point, your making a Motte and Bailey argument. Men are taught to be chivalrous; true, but that doesnt mean that relationally, everything that I have said isn't true. Women are taught to accomodate the feelings of others, to treats mens agos like they are fragile, to be emotional buffers - and these skills are paramount in relationship building. Be mad if you want to. The truth hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:20 AM
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Tbh I think people that have OnlyFans are pretty savvy; Belle Delphine has a business where she sells her bath water, thats a ridiculous mark-up with little cost. She saw the e-girl/ anime girl as a trend and capitalised on it. And now she is making bank. I think thats pretty talented. Now not everyone is this smart. But in general, if your making money with very little mark up like that, its pretty smart imo. And being a SugarBaby isnt easy. Sugar Daddies want an extremely submissive, niave gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:05 AM
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Who's supposed to be the one pursuing? Who's supposed to be the one paying for dates? Who's supposed to be making all the first moves? Who's supposed to be unaffected by constant rejection? Who's supposed to be the one to propose? Who's supposed to be the "breadwinner"? Who's supposed to be the "strong" one? These are the exact same things that feminists are fighting against. You want the best of both worlds; a woman who will split the bill but will also submit to you. A woman who will ask you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:49 AM
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Such hostility doesn't add to your argument. Why cant men on this sub have a discussion without getting so emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:43 AM
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Just answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:41 AM
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Yes, we are are lucky when it comes how we are treated in some instances in modern day life, partly because we are seen as the weaker more emotional/ fragile sex, and partly because we have had to fight for better treatment. However, I also think you assume that women aren't aware of their socialisation which I dont think is true. We have been socialised to be the "glue" in society; to appease, submit, placate, put the needs of others before our own, be tactful, censor ourselvws in many ways so …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:39 AM
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I'd also add that these men also take on a Sugar Daddy- type role which implies the disposable income to provide a certain lifestyle for such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:09 AM
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Incels.co is still up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:06 AM
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Show me. Link me all the Incels that are living lives as women because they believe women have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 04:05 PM
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So how does this relate to because "women weigh x they dont care about their appearance? Your the one that brought up porn, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 04:00 PM
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I dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:30 AM
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Feel free to link those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:30 AM
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I would say Im indifferent. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:29 AM
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Well there are reasons why pornstars tend to be skinny; - underage undertones - makes the dick look bigger - easier to manouvre during scenes But pornstars, just like male models, aren't reflective of the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:27 AM
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Words are cheap. I want to see all the Incels that are living as women in order to escape the oppression if being a man. Again, the biggest group of people that are violent towards women are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:24 AM
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We'll settle for the end of sex based violence and gendered assault. Haulting the reproduction of the human race seems a bit drastic...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:55 PM
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Weight =/= Time, effort and otherwise investment into appearance. I would look at how much women spend their time and money on clothes appearance, dieting etc, as this question is about effort rather than outcome. Also, the inference is that women that weigh less are more attractive, but I'd argue that women with the classic hourglass figure, with exagerated curves, would be the beauty standard du jour (in Western Society). This doesn't neccessarily correlate with being thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:52 PM
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Not in my experience. I dated a short guy 5'4 and he cheated on me with a girl he described as "someone like him"; she was 5'1.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:34 PM
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Then why do you still want just so badly? Simply take your sex robot, and your picnic on a stick, and GYOW. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:23 PM
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Don't ask them, you might get an answer you don't want. Since when have Incels every held back their real feelings. They have no problems supporting people "going ER" and "LDAR". You think they'd be talking about this on Incels.co? Keep telling yourself that. Female bullying of other females is a well-known social catastrophe. Aren't you debunking your own argument. Norah herself said women were nice to here when she presented as a woman. Be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:23 PM
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First of all if anything you said was true then why did she say she was glad to go back to being a woman? She was glad to go back to being a woman because she is a woman. Its her gender identity. It was social experiment. By that logic, wouldn't Incels be turning into women en masse, if life would be so much better that way? Overwhelmingly men are the main perpetrators of violence (including sexual violence) towards women. Intimate partner violence does exist within same gender romantic relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:43 AM
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The website is called "Everyday Feminism", but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:28 AM
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I feel they would be happy continuing having casual sex with hot guys (not necessarily young) Well older men tend to have more problems with stamina and staying hard. I guess it depends on the person. I'm just so confused by this dichotomy. Why is it the presumption that "Alpha males" fuck better. The dichotomy itself I find ridiculous. From my experience men with really high N counts are pretty bad at sex, because they put their value in quantity over quality. I think they also tend to have ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 05:02 AM
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I just said the older women would act exactly like younger one's if it wasn't for the ticking clock. That said I do expect that to reduce as I reach my 30's and have less and less in common with young girls. Why do you presume that women act differently solely because of their "ticking clock", but you would act differently because of character differences? The fact is that people in their 30s twbd to have different goals and be ina different stage of life than those in their 20s, and The Wall sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:15 AM
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"Not only was dating one of the hardest of Ned's experiences, it was also the most fraught with deception." So let me clarify, are you saying that because women found it easier to date than men, that this is why mens lives are so hard?.. Despite the fact that Norah herself states that way she was treated more favourably by men when presenting as a man?; "We walked by those same groups of men. Only this time they didn't stare. On the contrary, when they met my eyes they looked away immediately an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:07 AM
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And which one of these links addresses women as the perpetrator? 1st link, video time stamp 1:25: Women as the Perpetrators 2nd link: "There is an added layer to this for men who are abused by women. Jennifer Marsh, Vice President of Victims Services at the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN) told PolicyMic via email that “[m]ale victims often feel as though there must be something ‘not right’ with them if they did not want or enjoy the attack.” Bonus Round! 5 Reasons We Need to Sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:40 AM
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I'm glad, humour is a good personality trait to have when you are no longer attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:18 AM
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Well in that case Id say you need better taste in women. There are plenty of women that value financial independance, especially in this day and age. And quite frankly wages are reducing significantly for college educated men, there are many that aren't even in the position to five their partner the lifestyle you speak of. Also maybe reconsider having children, as childrearing is a big reason why many women leave the workforce. Being Child-Free is a growing movement. useless knick knacks and stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:17 AM
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What you care about is irrelevant. Your simply excluding data simply because it doesnt fit your narrative. And however you choose to date is entirely up to you. But understand that women from 18-25 usually date their peers, and if you cant get them to date you when you're in your prime, then the odds arent looking good when you age out. Good luck though. I mean that from the heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:51 PM
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Ad hominems don't add to your argument". "The median American woman has had three sex partners in her lifetime. The median man has had five." "Five percent of women have had 16 or more partners; five percent of men have had 50 or more. One percent of American women have had over 35 partners; the comparable figure for men is 150." Even with the trend of women having more sexual partners in recent years, and colllege aged men having less sexual partners, men still have more partners on average tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:46 PM
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It does require quite a lot of investment. I think its easier to gauge personality and compatibility on dating sites like OKCupid though. Maybe try there? Either that or approach women at events (laughs in Covid) where your type is more likely to be, like a church is you're a Christian, or a vegan festival if your an eco-warrior. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:26 PM
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Yes, because the sexual behaviour of college students reflects that of an entire population. Its almost like teenagers, with an immature sense of delayed gratification, high propensity to engage in risk taking behaviours, and impulsivity due to a prefrontal cortex that is not fully developed, partake in more pleasure seeking behaviours. How strange. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:21 PM
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"A 2007 nationwide survey in the United States found the median number of female sexual partners reported by men was seven and the median number of male partners reported by women was four."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:12 PM
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I would recommend conversation when trying to ascertain a persons values and principles. Id recommend being observant to how a person interacts with their loved ones, and the quality of ones interpersonal relationships; if they hold onto people that treat them poorly, if they show a lack of respect towards those they are supposed to love. Id pay attention to what they spend their time time investing in, what media they watch, what books they read; any inferences on their character that can be ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:05 PM
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Did I say "substitutes"? I said they help mitigate the negative effects of not receiving touch. If you have problems with comprehension it's best to simply ask for clarification. I'm pretty lenient when it comes to people that struggle with basic literacy skills. Do you not think its interesting that women have lower rates of affection deprivation than men, despite men having more sexual partners on average than women? Its because it's more acceptable for women to seek physical affection than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:56 PM
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Yeah, I have found this too. I think its easy to become entitled when you have been validated by society as the ideal. When you have been unattractive you are forced to value yourself than more than just your outward appearance. And quite frankly its easier to put on make-up and go to the gym that actually do the internal work neccesary to be a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:19 PM
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Who said middle aged? And in these cases I dont think its just about looks, but perceived status according to age ie a man in his 40s should have a solid career, a few promotions, wife, kids, car, house. A woman should be a parent, with a husband, yet still attractive with no signs of aging or the children she borne on her body. A woman who is childfree or focused on her career is looked at suspiciously, or like she has a an emotional/ moral deficiency. I think having good looks would mitigate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:16 PM
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Yeah, thats understandable but I think in general with humam sexual selecrion its about weighing up the pros and cons on any one mate. Raising human offspring takes a lot of energy and resources so its not just about good genetics, but the ability for a male partner to help raise the child until adulthood. People that are in an out of prison cant invest in ther offspeinf adequately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:07 PM
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Its about acknowleging the reasons an individual (a woman in this case) might be depressed. And touch can be platonic; friends and family can mitigate some of you needs for human contact. Touch can be derived from getting a massage or playing contact sports with a friend. Learn to solve your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:00 PM
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Im pretty sure people would rather run into the Grim Reaper than The Wall tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:57 PM
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(It hurt me that your going to make to argue from an angle of Evolutionary Psychology; I hope your happy.) A strong jawline is a sign of exposure to high testosterone during development.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:56 PM
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Physical intimacy solves a limited number of problems. Ok. But what about the rest of them? Don't project your own obstacles onto everyone else. Understand that others are dealing with legitimate struggles completely removed from your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:54 PM
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Everyone will still derive your worth from your looks anyway. Unfortunately so, it's a fact of life. But once your officially an oldold, you become cute and endearing in everyones eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:50 PM
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That fucking Tasha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:46 PM
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Pahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:45 PM
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Are you talking about Trans People? Im pretty sure its Trans women that have higher death, rape and assault rates, and are more likely to detransition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:44 PM
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Because casual sex solves all problems...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:42 PM
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I don't know what your talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:34 PM
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Reporting sexual assualt to the same guards that facilitated the abuse in the first place. Solid plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:33 PM
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Lmao @ "approach". :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:31 PM
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I actually think this type of person is less common to find in society. Unfortunately we don't tend to encourage self awareness and good mental health within our citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:30 PM
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Aging is a natural process. I think a good start is not deriving all your self worth from how you look. Taking care of yourself is obviously important, and yes you can get regular face lifts and botox post 35, but your fighting an enemy that always wins in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:28 PM
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I'm sensing anxiety. Even if you age unfortunately; hopefully you'll find a foid that loves you for who you are, and wants to grow old with you. She'll see you in her minds eye like the first day she met you ... and if not hair transplants are avaliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:23 PM
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/s?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:20 PM
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Hair transplants are pretty expensive. I'm not sure most people would be able to afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:13 AM
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Why are men on this subreddit so angry? And they call women emotional... As I said before, institutional abuse is about the abuse of power. So yes, it is a valid form of sexual misconduct. Its funny that men are the first ones to cry about mens rights, but when a legitimate issue about men's rights arises, the same men deny its validity. Its almost like men dont actually case about Mens Rights and instead are simply wielding Whataboutism whenever women raise concerns about sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:11 AM
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"In September 2003, Congress passed the Prison Rape Elimination Act, which promoted a zero-tolerance policy for inmate rape. "PREA applies to all correctional facilities, including prisons, jails, juvenile facilities, military and Indian country facilities, and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities," according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Federal law criminalizes any sexual relationship between officials and inmates because inmates cannot legally give consent." "PRISO…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:54 AM
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Of course they do, when the woman is the victim. Mary P Koss, the woman who said 1 in 4 women are victims of rape, also says women cannot rape men. Hers is the dominating narrative worldwide. By law there are many countries that say men can't be raped, but the current conversation on sexual assualt most definately addresses male rape. 5 Troubling Facts About Male Rape Survivors Troubling Facts About Male Rape Survivors The Male Rape Epidemic A Stunning Response to the People Who Say Men Can’t Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:44 AM
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Keep telling yourself that... But wait, what happened to "Women only want Chads"? Last I heard Chads don't have rising cholesterol and a double chin. Ive never seen a Chad that wasn't in his 20s. Also, who said anything about a vasectomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:13 AM
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Boldness =/= Aggression Come on guys, you can form better arguments than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:46 AM
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Men can get weaves these days. It looks pretty seamless tbh. I think the main takeaway is that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:38 AM
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I think the women should bring the same things to the table, otherwise the relationship is likely to break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:36 AM
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I am a feminist and I hear us talk about sexual abuse all the time... RE Jeremy Meeks, he is desired because he is sexy, not because he is a convict. Just in the same way that men are attracted to Jodi Arias the crazy beautiful murderer. And in the same way Id never advocate for women to stay with abusive men, Id also never advocate for men to stay wih abusive predatory womem either. Men really need to raise their standards when it comes to their romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:30 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:21 AM
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Thats absolutely your choice and your call. But in speaking to people that have been married for a prolonged period of time, libido changes and frustrations in relation to this change is common. Now Im not advocating that a person stay in a dead bedroom situation. However, if your looking for a life partner, then you have to be realistic about the factors that can affect a long term relationship, and how you plan to overcome them. If lulls sex frequency is a deal breaker than I would question if…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:20 AM
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It is. I think what frustrates me about Redpill is that they have a very reductive view of relationships. Personally I have met so many compatible people that I could have been very happy with, but things like location, differing long term goals (eg childfree vs childfriendly, religious vs atheist) differing political orientations, and personal obstacles (substance abuse, depression) were the thing that separated us. This dichtomous narrative of af/bb is just juvenile when it comes to the real r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:14 AM
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My best guess would be the misogyny tbh. Also, men tend to have higher N counts than women so... Im not quite sure about that. Also almost half the shit on the wall you just put here are unisex signs of aging. But I won't take any sides fuck whores with n count > 5 and fuck all RP members who make women toxic. Yeah, it's almost like aging happens to everyone. How shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:56 AM
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But dont you see a misuse of power here? This is institutional abuse. You can't be so indoctrinated in Redpill that you don't see that what these women did was morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:51 AM
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99% of actual good hard working men will never be as successful with women, much less actual procreation, as that criminal is. Citations needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:47 AM
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Take a rubberband and flick it against your wrist. And then name all the things in the room that are blue. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:46 AM
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Wow, your so upset. Maybe you should count to ten backwards and imagine a meadow. All that anger isn't good for your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:38 AM
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Cherrypicking; Just because 4 female guards got pregnant by an inmate doesn't mean that that person was a good choice to procreate with. It also doesn't mean it was the best choice for the child (and let's not mention the abuse of power and poor ethics displayed by the guards for this type of situation to even happen).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:37 AM
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Definately worthy guys and pleasant people, but non of them single. I think cool people tend to gather in groups, however I think meeting those groups can be a challenge sometimes. What makes it difficult is these types of people tend to have fulfilling active lives which can make first contact a challenge. And not everyone likes online dating. But apparently they are all in your bed so send me your location haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:31 AM
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Unique take.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:26 AM
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I'm glad you fell into a pocket of people that are decent. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:24 AM
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Have you got a mixtape?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:23 AM
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You sound awfully defensive for someone still in their prime. You can be whoever you want to be on the internet though, can't you?..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:22 AM
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Possibly, it depends how long this has been a problem for. But in most marriages there are periods of time where at least one partner loses their libido. It can be due to stress, age, hormones etc. If that it something an individual isn't prepared to navigate then marriage/ long term relationships may not be for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:20 AM
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So Im guessing by you reaction that you have hit The Wall then... Don't be sad, Im sure you'll find someone that loves you for you, despite your deteriorating looks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:17 AM
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For the follicly challenged. They just get some hair and stick it right to your scalp. You wouldn't know the difference. Much better that toupèes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:15 AM
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I'm sceptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:12 AM
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Did I touch a nerve? You seem upset. Let me guess, your thinning out on top? :D (Also stop implying that we have ever met or had sex, I only fuck 10s)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:10 AM
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Well that makes me happy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:01 AM
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Greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:59 AM
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Based on your summary above, I'd say the majority of single men (some frustratingly so) in my social circles fit that description. Are they single? -_O
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:58 AM
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I've heard that men can start getting weaves now. That's something to look forward to...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:57 AM
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The Wall, much like death, spares no mercy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:48 AM
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To think, I almost felt guilty for posting this, then I remembered some of the Purge weeks post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:47 AM
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It was always there. Most Redpillers are a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:45 AM
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Bars lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:44 AM
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Why is the assumption that she is not financially stable herself. Its likely that stress due to wedding planning has affected her libido. A simple solution would be to take a break from wedding planning of reinvest that time into connecting with her partner. Simples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:42 AM
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Stress can reduce libido. People find wedding planning stressful. I don't know what's so hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:41 AM
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They aren't married yet. Stress can reduce libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:40 AM
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Its cool to not want marriage, just get a partner that doesnt want marriage either. Its not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:38 AM
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Umm, you do realise that libido can change right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:38 AM
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Im glad you've calmed down. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:13 AM
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You think Category 1 is unattainable? Akin to Superheroes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:13 AM
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I disagree. If you need outside motivation to be a "good" person, then your morally bankrupt and therefore not a good person (imo). And there a plenty of men women and other that want casual relationships and are able to achieve that for themselves successfully. These same men and women may also choose to be celebate at some point, or also may choose to settle down. All those choices are valid. I dont think its useful to use sex as a motivator or bargaining chip. Sex is a need that most people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:11 AM
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I disagree. I think people in general struggle to live up to category 1. My definition of a good man is definately in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:59 AM
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You seem upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:57 AM
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Violent crime; poor impulse control, (likely) poor emotional regulation, poor morals. Compromised capacity to provide. Illegitimate, and therefore unstable financial trajectory. High likelihood of being a target of violence (violent crime victimisation isn't exclusive to men), high conflict relationship extremely likely, high likelihood of associated negative characteristics (lying, stealing, drug taking) - all unconducive to child-rearing. Also, the racial undertones to this is ... questionable…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:56 AM
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Do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:45 AM
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I disagree. If men have all the qualities in category one its very doubtful he's on the market for long. In fact, as another poster mentioned, these men are often locked into steady Long Term relationships. Where is this reservoir of "good men" that are being passed up for Chads and bad boys? Asking for a friend. And just in the same way that there are "good men", there are also "good women", and if a woman preoccupies herself with that kind of person she most definately is not in category #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:45 AM
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Reeeeeeeeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:38 AM
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Did I stutter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:33 AM
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Hence my post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:32 AM
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Tbh most people in LTR tend to be what people call "good men".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:31 AM
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I date what Redpillers would categorise as BluePilledCucks, Betas etc, and I never regret it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:30 AM
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Sometimes it's best to volunteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:27 AM
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Ok, but this is something that both women and men do. It even used to be a popular TV trope that commitment-phobic men are scared of marriage and settling down. I don't see a problem with being single until your ready to have a long term relationship (if tha's what you want); these skills are cultivated. Would you say the same to men that just want to hook up without and serious commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:48 AM
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How does this configure with the idea that women want men with good genetics? Someone who is frequently in prison is hardly a good candidate for procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:41 AM
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The last one is a lot smaller than the other two, I think you conveniently overlooked that ...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:38 AM
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What do you think the difference between "toxic masculinity" and "masculinity" is? Are you able to decipher the difference? Grammar lesson; The word "toxic" is modifying the term masculinity. Its not saying that "all" masculinity is toxic, but its describing some masculinity. For example; I like red apples - Am I saying I like all apples, or just the red ones? Its the same thing. If men are better at using logic and reason, then why is is that on avergae men suffer from more substance abuse, hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:09 AM
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Link it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:01 AM
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Is that why MGTOWs are always talking about/hoping for societal collapse if they refuse to participate? Seems inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:59 AM
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So when we talk about privilege we talk about dichotomies of power. For instance one group of people is given more power than another group, and said group is given power over another group. Some examples being upperclass vs working class, white people vs people of colour, cis people vs trans people, heterosexuals vs non heteros etc. So when we talk about men and women, we acknowlege that both men and women will experience subjugation due to a fascistic government for example. But that doesnt me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:46 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 12:17 PM
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Its almost like we've have founded our thinking on data and not baseless assumptions... Quick sociology lesson There are multiple influences on a child. Your are referring to the microsystem, which affects a child directly, but there are other systems if influence too; the mesosystem (which are influences like a school or place of worship), an exosystem (for instance the media and other large institutions like a parents place of work), macrosystem ( cultural values and beliefs ), and the chronos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:00 AM
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Look at my post history then retract your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:37 AM
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Facts don't care about your feelings. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:01 AM
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Enlighten me Senpai. Show me your citations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:01 AM
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Women are more emotionally expressive. Men are encourage to have restrictive emotionally (anger is ok, stocism is good, crying is bad). Women also express more emotions as a way of social lubrication. But it is unfounded that women are more emotional than men. :). "Sex Differences in Emotion: A Critical Review of the Literature and Implications for Counseling Psychology". The Counseling Psychologist. 30 (4): 630–652.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:00 AM
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Also a falacy. Show me a study that says men are more introspective and self aware than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 10:02 PM
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No. Just no. To all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 10:01 PM
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Thats thats true at all. That's not supported by psychological literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 10:00 PM
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Overall more likely to exhibit Dark Triad personality traits (narcissism, psychopathy, Machiavellianism). More likely to both experiment with and abuse substances (though not necessarily more prone to addiction; women are actually more prone to addiction with many drugs but it’s just more common for men to use drugs in the first place, like, notably more common). Aggressive tendencies and more conflict prone (duh). Overall less inclined towards prosocial behaviors. Non-communicative about emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:59 PM
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I'm going to answer this in terms of halves, referring to how patriachy contributes to maladaptive behaviours from both men and women, and the interplay between the two. Men: Tend to be domineering, flouting ideas of autonomy and consent Women: Unaware of their own boundaries and unable to communicate them, and the expectation that men should be aggressive. Equating aggression to love etc. Can also flout autonomy and consent. Men: See women as (sex) objects, dehumanise women, see the feminine as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:53 PM
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“Cite all the studies you want, but the reality is most women will and can get boyfriends and marry just fine whether folks like it or not” I think the reason why many "marriage-aged" women are still single is because they aren't finding the types of relationshipships that they want. A lot of wonen aren't willing to settle into a relationship in which they aren't going to be happy. I think this issue should be addressed; for a woman its no longer about being able to obtain a man, but being able …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 05:20 PM
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I did. So did you read the post your commenting on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:52 AM
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the statistically average guy, not your perception of average which might be some 6ft tall jacked millionaire When have I ever indicated that this was my perception of the average male? And yes, I do believe given the opportunity that men in general will aim to have sex with whichever type of girl they can get their hands on, but when it comes to forming a long term relationship that might result in marriage and children, they will be more discriminatory in their choices. And the subset of men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:51 AM
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Maybe its that they don't equate unattractiveness to being "shit"...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:57 PM
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Did you read the post your commenting on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:54 PM
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Actually it said that men tend to exclusively message women that are "attractive", constituting as the top 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:52 PM
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in today's world, you can't, it has little to no value for a man. I'm not so sure about that... "A major survey of 127,545 American adults found that married men are healthier than men who were never married or whose marriages ended in divorce or widowhood. Men who have marital partners also live longer than men without spouses; men who marry after age 25 get more protection than those who tie the knot at a younger age, and the longer a man stays married, the greater his survival advantage over …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:51 PM
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Yeah, it's technically still "casual sex" since we're not committed but it's a relationship too. So its basically ONS that your against? Ok, I think I see the difference; not all casual sex is made the same I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:48 PM
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Maybe, in certain respects. Im just not fan of th af/bb dichotomy; there just might be tkmes in a persons life where casual sex or monogamous sex is more fitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:45 PM
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Its a significant factor when coupled with the extraneous variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:43 PM
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Why is it when women follow this same strategy, respillers get upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:40 PM
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Have you ever had an STD test. Do you know where they put the cotton bud?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:38 PM
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Because its just sex. A lot of people want to form longlasting connections. Bragging rights dont keep you warm at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:37 PM
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To be honest I think it comes down to the beliefs and principles of the individual. The idea that because a man is attractive he doesn't want to form longlasting, stable romantic relationships is antithetical to the human condition. I think if I man derives his self worth from his body count, then fucking as many women as possible will be his goal. Equally, if a man values the connection that can be found from a long lasting relationship, then that's what he'll do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:33 PM
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The results of moderated multiple regression analyses revealed that a respondent's number of sexual partners, level of dysfunctional impulsivity, satisfaction with current relationship, and quality of relationship alternatives significantly predicted inclination to engage in both of the extradyadic activities. Theres three variables right there that are being negated. One can't pick and choose which variables to pay attention to and which to ignore. If a partner has a low n count, but the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:55 AM
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Thats a horrible idea and a fast track way to getting abused. 10/10 would not recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:39 AM
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Can you link the specific study that correlated body count to infidelity? I cant see the specific study your highlighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:02 AM
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But there are clearly qualities that make you feel she is wife material that the other women you slept with casually don't. Why is it not the same the other way round? Why isn't it seen that "BB" actually have qualities that the supposed "alphas" don't? An "alpha" that is a pretty face, but has unstable income, is arrogant, has no ambition, and no maturity isn't a first choice. I mean, maybe you can spend a night together and he can make you cum (but also there's a chance he is a shit lay too), …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:58 AM
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Any evidence of this? Id love to see the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:42 AM
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The cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:41 AM
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I don't think your understanding my point. The problem with MPDG trope is that its superimposed onto a woman with little regard as to who that person really is. The problem is that a fantasy is projected onto a person, and the person is treated thusly, instead of being seen as a real person. The same happens with the "kuwaii waifu"; Asian women are treated like they are submissive innocent anime characters without people seeing them for their own individual qualities that may have nothing to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:40 AM
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Apparently, Ive heard Korean women are weary of white immigrants because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:29 AM
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http://jessmaxwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Honeymoon-is-over_in-press.pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.572.4494&rep=rep1&type=pdf Can you tell me where in this study it shows that the qualities I mentioned "dry panties"? The papers you have linked shows that the reason sexual desire in women decreases can be assigned to changes in hormones due to childbearing, stress due to childrearing, and decline in fertility with age. Non of these studies suggest that the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:25 AM
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Well, I think thats part of the allure of the female body. If they have a 25-30% body fat range, and a lot of tits and ass, then they will probably be more desirable by general beauty standards (perhaps not by gym bunny beauty standards). Men and women just have different standards of beauty. I think there is a difference between being attractive and being the beauty standard though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:55 AM
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You want a woman with a lower body fat percentage than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 02:27 AM
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I've put this elsewhere, but when men start treating Far Eatern Asian women as cute innocent submissive "kuwaii waifus".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:24 PM
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I think there is a lot of be said about media representations and how they affect the way we think about love and romance. For example the Prince Charming trope - a handsome man that sees a normal plain Jane and sweeps her off her feet - informed a lot of womens ideas of love (and still does). If you look at anime, and how the kuwaii innocent submissive asian girl stereotype has lead to a lot of men treating far eastern asian women in the same way (and also the disdain a lot of asian women feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:21 PM
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Is there a rule against submitting a post about a topic that has been covered before?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:39 AM
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Which responses am I ignoring?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:27 AM
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Why is my argument bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:24 AM
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Solid answer. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:19 AM
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I understand how ideas of sex contribute to sexual compatibility. And Promocuity having a an indication of views towards sex, however I think think ... who slept around with any woman who would have him, just to scratch an itch or prove his "alpha-ness" or because he can't think of anything better to do on a Saturday night than have ONS with some random chick he's only known for an hour ...is a false equivalency. What if he had a fuck buddy? Thats technically still casual sex. Its a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:17 AM
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So you correlate a high body count with cheating? Do you not think other variables contribute towards whether a person might cheat or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:07 AM
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Fair enough, if you dont think they have the qualties you need from a LTR then fine. But my qualm is, why dehumanise someone you want to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:06 AM
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Agreed, but I would dump her because she was dishonest, not because she had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:03 AM
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So you think women aren't attracted to grounded, level headed, driven, stable, settled men that want to commit and invest in a long term relationship? There's nothing attractive about a man who have the qualities to have a happy healthy relationship with her? This is what I find most puzzling about the alpha/beta categorisation. -Alphas are meant to be dominant assholes, sexually attractive, muscular and high in testosterone. -Betas are submissive wimpy simps with good jobs. Men don't neatly fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:01 AM
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Im not sure you can pin misery, depression and poverty on the fact that a woman chose to have casual sex. Ive got a feeling there are a few variables that havent been accounted for ...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:45 AM
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No, the problem has nothing to do with insecurity, the problem has to do with how frequently men have poor outcomes in LTRs. Men who take the "she's not yours" approach have better outcomes, because it prevents over-investment. But I think there are so many variables as to why someone might have poor outcomes in LTR. I think people go into LTR with rose tinted glasses on, instead of having realistic expectations. That doesn't prevent a relationship with a hypergamous untrustworthy woman. It's li…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:43 AM
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Well thats ok. If your incomptible in you views towards sex then that's alright. Sex holds different meaning to different people. But women who have lots of casual sex, can’t really attach. I'm not sold on this. What do you mean? The flip side of that, women, regardless of experience, even virgins, want a man with experience. A man who’s good in bed. A man who knows what he’s doing. How does a man get that know how? Exactly. Possibly, I think its fair to say most people want positive sexual expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:40 AM
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So the problem isnt that she has casual sex, the problem is the perceived competition that you up against, which leads to a sense of insecurity in the dating market (she's not yours, its just your turn)? How exactly do I find this tennis court that isn't on swamp land? You look for women that want long term relationships and want to settle down instead of women that dont ...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:29 AM
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Ok, so I want to talk about what you've just described (which is basically differentiating women you sleep with to "wife" material) and af/bb. Do you feel the same way about both dating strategies? Why and why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:24 AM
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Not really. I think for example in Christian or other religious circles most people would be praised for their abstinence. I think each to their own, if you value virginity then cool, do you. If your sexually active, cool do you. But wishing you were more sexually active and then disliking the people that are because they are doesn't make much sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:14 AM
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Bail them out of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:12 AM
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That's not what the redpill says, it says to play the ball as it lies. I may not want my ball to be sitting in a dirty swamp filled with crabs, but if that's where the ball is I'll take my best swing at it. But the presumption is that all women are having casual sex when thats not the case. If you want a woman who you can have a LTR with, then why not aim for that instead of trying to just p&d? Or to continue the analogy, why come to the crab-swamp when the tennis court is that -> way?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:11 AM
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I think it has a lot to do with insecurity, and a lack of differentiation. Maybe possible problems with recognising the bodily autonomy of others, and not addressing ingrained ideas of sex. Just my thoughts. I feel virgin women and just "good girls" are too precious to just be used for a short term relationship and they deserve more (feeling of respect towards her but different compared to how I respect a fellow man). But women enjoy sex too. Women get horny. Not every womam that engages in casu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:06 AM
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I'm not a hyphocrite. I'm just smart. What is the benefit of dating a traditional women with a low body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:55 AM
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Well damn... D':
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:22 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:57 AM
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But why does the count matter? Id understand if the dick was currently inside her, but if its on the past then I really don't see the significance. "You had sex before you knew me and Im upset about it"? Ok, are you also mad that chickens can't fly? Why spend so much time on the irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:56 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:53 AM
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Exactly. Someone asked me once "Would you date you?" And it honestly changed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:40 AM
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The "privileges" that women get arent put there by a matriarchal system. Not having access to sex really is a first world problem. If you want more rights as a man; protest, organise, campaign; do the work to receive the benefits. Lobby governments to invest in male mental health. Argue for more paternity leave, and greater child rearing involvedment (so women get less favoured in courts) invest in your children. Aim to target toxic beauty standards. Support anti-war politicians (becase the draf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:37 AM
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Same reason as everyone else - Because they might get treated slightly better when they wear make up. Because they like it. Because it makes them feel good. And also, why shouldnt people in general spend time on the way they look? Would you prefer they wear bin bags and use the sewers to travel at night? Aren't they human beings too? Does a persons worth only summount to their outward appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:27 AM
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Because she had sex with someone that isn't him and he won't pay for the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:38 AM
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I would be interested if you did this experiment with OKCupid which is more relationship focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:37 AM
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Nope, red flag. Run. This will come back to haunt you. Its not what she lied about but its the fact she was dishonest in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:29 AM
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but it seems to be possible that she was happy to play along with the projections of the guy who was right to her But you have no evidence of this. The film doesn't explore the relationship she has with the other dude. All we know is she didnt like how Tom projected his fantasy of his dream girl onto her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:26 AM
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Bacon, you are really killing it on this sub. Edit: But also I disagree if your suggesting her fiance treated her in the same way Tom did. You have one way of knowing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:23 AM
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Not really. It says that women are more likely to message people they think is below average ...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:19 AM
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It's interesting; I feel like Redpilling actually makes women more suspicious when dating, making it harder for men that do want to find a genuine connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:18 PM
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If they are so unttainable then why is it that women are more likely to message men they find less attractive? Doesn't that offer some leeway? Also I think we need to take into acount the relationship quality a man might be offering. Just because she is average in looks doesn't mean she aspires to have an average relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:16 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:12 PM
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Does dude work in a recruiting team?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:11 PM
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As a standard everyone should care about their health, and to some extent looking presentable. Each person should care for their mental health and have interests and hobbies. The aim should be having a happy and fulfilling life. What lifestyle choices are we talking about? If you have poor hygiene, do nothing you are proud of with your life all day, and have a shirty personality then I suggest you change everything; but do it out of self love not to get a girl. Computer science dude messed up. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:04 PM
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Not in a workplace environment unless he works at a gym, or model agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:58 PM
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Okc Qualitrics said women are more likely to message people that they aren't attracted to than men, so I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:56 PM
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Ok, well I dont think this is true. Some people just aren't that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:10 PM
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I disagree. If you look at the format of Tinder, it doesn't match users on compatibility, personality types, values or beliefs. If doesn't ask users about occupation, education, religion or political orientation. It doesn't ask users about the type of relationship they want or what they are looked for, if they want kids, have pets etc. It doesn't ask users the most important questions to them. Just because people have managed to find relationships on such sites doesn't mean the site itself isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:08 PM
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How do they make themselves unattainable? How is it easier to success with unattainable attainable women over unattainable unattainable women? So obviously men are all going toward the same girls eventually. But isn't this the same thing RPers always complain about when talking about the 80/20 rule? You can't expect women to lower their standards if you won't either. Remember women are available one night in the month while men are every day. I don't know what your talking about. Please elaborat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:37 AM
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Well the data is about OKC (more relationship oriented) not Tinder (more hookup oriented). Any proof that it has gotten worse? Okc states that it takes good photos and a strong profile to receive a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:33 AM
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Interesting take aways; The “most attractive” women receive five times as many messages as the average female does, with 2/3 of all male messages going to the top 1/3 of women. And women tend to favor the most attractive men, though the ratio is less extreme. But there are a few interesting phenomena. For one, men on the site tend to be more generous than women when it comes to rating attractiveness, leading to a nice bell curve with the bulk of ratings falling around ‘average’. But despite thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:43 AM
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Yup. RPers need a little help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:45 AM
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Source; Do individuals with maladaptive personality traits find these same traits desirable in potential romantic partners? [Desirability ratings were higher for those with higher levels of these traits than for individuals lower in these maladaptive traits. However the mean ratings were never observed to be above a neutral rating… There was a broad consensus that these traits were undesirable.] -roughly quoted Edit for clarity; The trend is that overall these traits are unattractive, but women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:42 AM
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Still waiting for a response. I guess this is where you pretend like you actually answered it and I go somewhere else...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:41 AM
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I wish it was. Apparently, it's not common knowlege.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:38 AM
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Sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:37 AM
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Ok, np :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:36 AM
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... Im not sure about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:36 AM
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The study is about people with personality disorder traits. A lot of these people will probably be subclinical as they are not taken from a pool of individuals specifically with personality disorders. Bare in mind its takes a licensed mental health professionalto diagnose personality disorder, and most people don't have access to this kind of care, so I think it's fair to say the prevalence of PD in society and under-represented.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:35 AM
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Oh, that last line, I've used that line. It's a good line. Are you alright? You comment like you're the anti-heroic protagonist of a crime novel...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:25 AM
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Your terrible at telling jokes. Hang up the clown suit. Jokes aside, 1/4 of women are in need of a psychologist and 1/5th in need of a psychiatrist. (by the APA data, not mine). I would say that everyone could do with a mental health professional. Lets not forget higher rates of crime perpetration, suicide and reports of loneliness reported from the male population than the female population. Not to speak of many women who are maladaptive but not enough to require such professionals. The term yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:19 AM
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Reminder; men cheat more in relationships than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:15 AM
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0844 Unsolicited advice activated :":'__:=÷ Chad neatly ignores shit tests from one of his "female fans"... "Shit tests" are a strange concept. But being an open and honest (and tactful) communicator is always much more recommended. If you feel like she is "testing" you a lot, be open to having a dialogue about it, and be brave enough to address it if you think it's coming from a place of distrust. Ask her why she might say the things she does. Also, ask her to be open and honest with you too. "…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:13 AM
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Well there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:11 AM
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Nope, you have it backwards. The trend is that overall these traits are unattractive, but women who present the same traits are more tolerant of them (ie they would rate them as "unattractive" rather than "very unattractive". All of the traits are still regarded as negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:18 PM
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Prevalence of personality disorders, meta analysis; "The final sample comprised ten studies, with a total of 113 998 individuals. Prevalence rates were fairly high for any personality disorder (12.16%; 95% CI, 8.01–17.02%) and similarly high for DSM Clusters A, B and C, between 5.53 (95% CI, 3.20–8.43%) and 7.23% (95% CI, 2.37–14.42%). Prevalence was highest for obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (4.32%; 95% CI, 2.16–7.16%) and lowest for dependent personality disorder (0.78%; 95% CI, 0.3…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:15 PM
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It could be that these maladaptive traits present more in young women than older women, which could be due to development and maturation, or internalised messages surrounding romantic relationships. What I dislike about the af/bb scenario most is that its seen as dichotmous. Alpha and beta doesn't exist. You can create a scale based on conventional attractiveness, extroversion, financial success but not the a/b dichotomy. You'll find "alphas" (ie men that assert their dominance more) that are un…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:48 PM
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Actually a data point in one of the studies said that men are more likely to date women with maladaptive traits. Traits such as dependancy, attention-seeking, emotional overreaction, inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior, self centerednesd, often threaten or attempt suicide to get attention. I actually see a lot of men putting up with this kind of behaviour from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:02 PM
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"Maladaptive personality variants are not specific to clinical populations; subclinical levels of these traits are found in a sizeable percentage of the general population." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3940664/ We often reward men and women with certain maladaptive personality traits; Men; Neither desire nor need human attachments, apathy, and restricted emotional expression, disregard for and violation of the rights of others, lack of empathy, bloated self-image, manipulative a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:11 PM
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In general people can still be empathetic towards other they dont benefit from but men just in general are given less empathy as a whole but especially from woman. Tbh I see the way men are with each. There is more poking fun, and lockeroom talk. I feel like men are less empathetic to each other tbh. I think its just the assumption that men are stronf and dont need any kind of emotional support. They never stop looking. I'm not sure about that. If they never stopped looking then that would disru…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:42 PM
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Id guess that their gfs also had maladptive traits; low self worth, poor boundaries, also probably a lot of niavetè. What were their family histories? Do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:59 PM
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I dont know what your talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:57 PM
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I agree. Women arent attracted to abusive men. They are attracted to charming funny passionate men that take care of themselves. Theae ae traids that narcisstic/psychopathic men tend to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:57 PM
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But if good me aren't charming funny confident etc, then maybe they should work on that. The same as if a woman didnt put an effort into looking good, and wasnt attractive, would you marry her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:55 PM
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Yeah I would agree. Especially as these studies don't investigate a larger age group. I think middle aged women etc would find the "bad boy" even less appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:53 PM
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I really don't know what that means sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:52 PM
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Yeah, it shows, because neither of the first two studies really supports the claim(I dunno about the third, I have better things to do than correcting your shit) So you read half the studies and assert that the claim is not supported? Yeah, makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:51 PM
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Non of their studies recognise the maladaptive traits in the women though. Thats the point your missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:50 PM
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I can understand needing therapy to unlearn toxic shit if you've internalized your abuse, and if you don't, you'll become a perpetrator yourself. That makes sense. But why do so many other victims continue to date people who are carbon copies of their abusers? Shouldn't more of them be like me, and instinctively turn away from those who would shatter us further? It's like they think there's nothing better out there than just more pain... Some people call it repetitive compulsion. Other people re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:47 PM
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At least 90% of Woman (possibly Men too) are only capable of loving another Man in a superficial way. Do you have any evidence for these claims? What do you class as superficial? Is a woman wanting a man that's ambitious, hardworking, empathetic, giving etc "superficial" because it implies a benefit for her? What is classed as you "deep down"? The fact is we all value others based on what they can give us; friendship, love, companionship, happiness. This is just relationships. Once we establish …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:38 PM
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Pardon? What would you like access to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:24 PM
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Oh really? That's so interesting. Please tell me more. :) Edit: As in elaborate on what men conduce as "asshole behaviour".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:22 PM
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Well damn, now I wish I'd read my Bible more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:21 PM
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Very interesting. I think a study mentioned that refusing to admit guilt was seen as unattractive by female participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:20 PM
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A study did state that a woman was more likely to have a short term relationship, or just date this type of person, but I think it's worth noting that these types of people seem very charming, exciting, passionate and confident at first. They also are pretty vain, tend to take care of themselves physically and excel in deceit and manipulation. All these traits are either sexy, or can be used to take advantage of someone. I don't think it's the ill treatment that the women are attracted to, unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:08 AM
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As happy as a homeowner can be...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:12 AM
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In the first line didn't I say something about psychopathic birds of a feather? It's because the study has the phrase "Psychopathic birds of a feather" in it. I also used a quote that you could have searched for too… https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=psychopathic+birds+of+a+feather&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DadvwWkTHxS0J Also, see below. Do individuals with maladaptive personality traits find these same traits desirable in potential romantic partners? [Desirability ratings we…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:09 AM
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It would be interesting to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:02 AM
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Why don't you think so? Edit Do individuals with maladaptive personality traits find these same traits desirable in potential romantic partners? [Desirability ratings were higher for those with higher levels of these traits than for individuals lower in these maladaptive traits. However the mean ratings were never observed to be above a neutral rating… There was broad consensus that these traits were undesirable.]
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:45 AM
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Yes, and people with these kinds of traits also tend to care a lot about their appearance so it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:06 AM
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But maybe she doesnt want a romantic value. Maybe she wants a mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:04 AM
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Read my response again. Calm down with the capslock.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:02 AM
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100% agree, I also think that people who are psycopathic and narcisstic are initially very charming and are good at hiding their more negative qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:47 AM
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Psychopathic birds of a feather "Community members's self esteem scores were moderately negatively associated with preference for PCL-R psychopathy features ... indicating that participants with lower levels of self-esteem preferred those with psycjopathic traists for romantic relationships." ^ If all women found psychopathic triats attractive tuis vorrelation would not have been found. "Female' absolute preference for such traits were low" Also interesting; "Males endorsed significantly greater…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:43 AM
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Exactly. This idea that women are just attracted to asshole men doesn't account for the personal familial history, nor the experience of trauma by the individual. People that have experienced abuse in childhood are more likely to experience abuse in their romantic relationships later in life, both as perpetrators and as victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:40 AM
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"More inclined that others" means there is a statistical, measurable significance between a group with maladpative traits and those without. What evidence do you have that women prefer assholes? Define "asshole". Also the observation that women prefer assholes is not the same thing as certain women become infatuated with murderers. The video discusses Hybristophilia, the studies do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:24 AM
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I dont know how to edit so ... Edit; Traits meaured included antisocial, borderline, schizotypal and paranoid personality disorders, sadism, avoidance and dependance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:19 AM
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Love =/= sex I would argue that seeing sex as transational in relationships is worse than seeing sex as a service you can buy from a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:51 AM
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Are you asking me personally or?.. Well if its just sex then the ability to host, I have a size preference but Im pretty flexible. I prefer switches in terms of dominance. And someone who will let me be big spoon. In terms of relationships the things I value in a partner; good communication skills, self awareness, introspection, morality, empathy, being left wing, openness and honesty, high self esteem and self respect with good boundaries. These are the qualities I think I have and am actively …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:23 AM
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Is it still more than when you were single though? That is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:45 AM
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