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ok, well whether or not there are reasons behind it are irrelevant to the statement so I didn't get your point anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:39 PM
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Me, when I made the statement. It's not a common view lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:27 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:18 PM
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Eating 100g of lentils is terrible, borderline unbearable. Eating 800g of lentils is...impossible. Eating a large steak is delicious, convenient, doable in a sitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:04 PM
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Idk, I think it would actually be very interesting to see what everyone on the sub actually looks like in person. If like 99.9999% of everyone is ugly as fuck, or mostly average, or if some are surprisingly good looking given the content of the sub. Especially the women that find this sub, I'm really curious how most women would come upon a "community" like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:54 PM
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What the heck, you didn't even get to actually know me :( It would be risky to get to know anyone though, so fair play. I do believe it would be very interesting to see what everyone on the sub actually looks like in person. If like 99.9999% of everyone is ugly as fuck, or mostly average, or if some are surprisingly good looking given the content of the sub. Especially the women that find this sub, I'm really curious how most women would come upon a "community" like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:53 PM
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You know how many goddamn lentils you'd have to eat to get gram per lb in protein? It is also much less bioavailable than meat is, so you have to eat even more than the nutritional labels will say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:49 PM
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What If We Were All Stranded Together on An Island? Would people separate into bluepiller camps, purple piller camps, and red pill camps? Would the attractive people pair up and try to get off the island to avoid the wrath of murderous incels? Would the incels snap and try to murder everyone? Would it be a suprisingly wholesome bonding/learning experience for most people? Would half of the people just die quickly due to lack of genetic fitness? Would attractive people have more social influence …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:32 PM
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Your moral reasoning might be sound, but there absolutely are not other options in replacing the sheer nutritional value of animal products particularly with regard to protein in the absence of eating a LOT of food and using a LOT of drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:30 PM
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Perfect admission of defeat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:03 PM
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Hammer nail head. Shocking how backwards people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:07 PM
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Absolutely the case here, but it benefits republicans sadly. More reasons to view the flyover states as barbaric savages, less attracting talent, less prosperity relative to the rest of the country, more resentment from stupid white trash, more support for republicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:05 PM
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The more negative factors you have, the more you have to compensate. The fitness transformation will absolutely overhaul the average guy. 5'3 is very short, as most women are around that height in the US if not a bit taller. Ugly is very rare. Very few people are actually ugly in the face. If you are very short and very ugly, you're probably going to have to ultra compensate in more than one area. Being very intelligent, very successful, and also fit. But, if you're the average 5'9 20 something …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:33 PM
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...you don't have parents, siblings, friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:28 PM
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This line of thinking is so dumb, beyond dumb. The fact that staying hot for each other is seen as "objectifying" or "unrealistic" is a sign that something is seriously wrong with how we look at relationships. People should WANT to be strong, healthy, athletic, and sexy for as long as is physically possible. Being hot and dressing hot doesn't mean you can't also be smart, doesn't mean you can't also be kind, doesn't mean you can't also have mutual interests. Everyone should be striving to be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:51 PM
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If we take your idea to its logical conclusion, most guys will be buff and fit, so being fit is no longer special nor unique. Except it will never happen because most guys are extraordinarily lazy. Also, high quality women much like high quality men like working hard and looking hot. "I'm a lazy sack of shit because if no one was a lazy sack of shit, everyone would have to be, like, good at something" is the worst logic in the world. But hey, I guess that's the sacrifice you're making!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:15 PM
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He has the average wife, the average family, the average life. Have you...met most people who are married? I guess different people do want different things but it looks fucking miserable to me. I want my wife to stay in shape for the rest of her life. I want her to dress up for me 10+ years after we're married. he's content More likely "complacent." I'm very appreciative of what I have and can attain, but I'm never satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:14 PM
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Well they definitely exist, it's just less common. Of course it helps the thing you're a god at is relatable to women. But if you're really that great at it you can turn it into a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:12 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:10 PM
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Either you're way over estimating your physique/face or your mindset is just terribly humble. I feel like I look better than virtually all the men I come into contact with, and I think my physique is probably more like top 20-30. I have abs but they're cloudy, the upside is that I am genuinely physically athletic. I'm 5'8 and have gotten 200 matches on tinder in a month. When I was fat I got like no matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:11 AM
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No labs or tests are accurate. You measure bodyfat with either calipers or the mirror. 10% still has a decent bit of fat on your body, you're not shredded at 10%. Look up beach body pictures and that's around 10% as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:50 AM
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let alone top 15% attractive. No, I would argue it absolutely does that. The percentage of men who have a six pack is shockingly low. Probably less than 1% of men have true visible six pack abs. Furthermore, being lean DOES improve your facial features. Just look up face fat loss transformation and you will see hundreds of examples. And this change can happens very sharply. Some people going from 13% to 12% transforms their face. Look up what a lb of fat looks like and it is really easy to see h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:49 AM
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(unless you undergo cosmetic surgery) Ya, well, it's an option now and relatively safe and inexpensive. barely 5'3 https://dynamicduotraining.com/fit-couples-interview-with-jeff-nippard-and-robin-gallant/ so is he look at the third picture. And I’m 29, so I’ll never be at the same level as guys who have been working out since they were teenagers or even children. Objectively untrue. You make about 80% of the muscle gain you're going to make in your entire life in the first 3 years of training if…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:44 AM
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Eh, disagree. Average goes up overtime actually. If we were to go back to cavemen the fat average lazy guy was the skinny weak dead guy who probably got eaten by a coyote or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:36 AM
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Way too light. At that height and weight some 5'4 midget bodybuilder could beat you up. Not a good look. Ideal muscular development for a man at 5'9 is somewhere between 150lbs-180lbs 10% bodyfat. Every inch the range goes up/down by 10lbs. 5'10 160-190, 5'11 170-200. At your height that would be around 230lbs-260lbs. Is it hard? Fuck ya it's hard. The upside is that if you're jacked at 6'4 you absolutely MOG everyone when you walk into a room. being 230 at 6'4 makes the 260lbs 5'10 bodybuilder …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:34 AM
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even having a 6pack will still be considered average if you're 5'9" Not true in the slightest bit. 5'9 guys get loads of love if they're in great shape. Even 5'7 guys. There are some women with a height cut off, but most girls just want you to be taller than them and hot. For 90% of women face > height. For 90% of women lean > height + fat. Being tall is a boost, but very rarely are women attracted to a guy JUST because they are tall. Whereas it is very common for women to be attracted JUST beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:28 AM
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The mirror. You want muscle separation, abs, and chiseled jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:25 AM
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Vast majority of men would really benefit from this outlook and advice of getting to 10%. It really would make most men go from a 5/10 to a 7/10 at the very least. Sometimes more. And it absolutely is true that America is getting more obese and more ugly basically as time goes on. Now, there are definitely guys that are overweight and not very fit that do very well with women. CEOs, Actors, Writers, Politicians, Artists, Entertainers, Bankers, ETC. It isn't the only path to success. But it is BY…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:24 AM
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Ya, well, if you're ugly as fuck with a double digit IQ that's kind of the thing you have to do to get that kind of success with women. The point is that virtually any weakness can be overcompensated for with hyper success in other domains. That losing hope is for losers and if you aren't getting the results you want you have to have a plan, do the research, and put in the work. The point is that giving up means you don't deserve the prize anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:18 AM
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20* But no, it isn't goal post shifting, and no, I'm not saying what you accomplished isn't good. I let you know a bunch of reasons why it might not be enough. Another thing you should know is that unfortunately, no one really cares about things that are impressive that need a bunch of asterisks and qualifiers. Something is either impressive enough to stand on its own, or it isn't. Otherwise you're just the guy who said "I could have went pro but I got injured." It's like, you did or you didn't,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:21 AM
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Did you read my post? I said the average man is pathetic and that if you want to get ahead you have to be EXCEPTIONAL. I used "everyone has a normal or above average quality" as a starting point for the quality you should make EXCEPTIONAL, not as a quality that is fine. This isn't a "being average is fine" rant, it is entirely the opposite of that. You are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:43 AM
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You shouldn't have be fucking Kipchoge tier to impress a girl. Well it depends on how ugly and socially awkward you are and the nature of your sport, and how many people can understand and visualize your level. I'll give you an example. Below average looking guy goes into a crunch fitness. No girls notice or care. Below average guy goes up to a platform, loads the bar, throws 400lbs over his fucking head in 1 explosive fluid movement. Girls eye fuck him after. Or, below average looking guy shows…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:28 AM
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You notice exceptional people more than average people, by definition, especially if they are tall they literally stand out in a crowd. The more densely populated the area you live in the more this is the case, and the more expensive the area you live in the more that area will self select for the people who can afford to live there. Is the competition fierce? In terms of looks I would say the answer is yes. But for casual relationships you're not really competing so much as sharing to be perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:19 AM
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It depends. Dennis Rodman had 3 wives, all of them good looking, look at that fucking guy. Just look at the state of that man. On tinder, you're absolutely right. In real life? Not in the slightest. Women have kinks, women put certain achievements on a pedestal, women are exceptionally attracted to certain personality traits, etc etc. You can definitely show off hidden traits overtime with women in your social circle or even random women depending on where you are and what you do with your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:13 AM
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Well, looks are extremely important for a sexual relationship by definition. My suggestion wasn't that you could just be fit and in the military and run marathons to makeup for being really ugly and autistic. My suggestions was you have to be the top 1% of marathon runners in the world and get with a chick who has the same passion for marathon running. See the difference? The more ugly/socially awkward you are, the more exceptional you have to be to make up for it. Or, probably more easily, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:07 AM
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Yes, exactly my point. The average male is pathetic and they still get women who have to settle for them because of how common it is. That being said, while it's true that most guys never go to to the gym, it's also true most girls don't. It's also true that it's really common in marriages for both partners to get lazy and let themselves go. If you want an exceptional woman you have to be an exceptional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:02 AM
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It's because there are more ways to show status than having a great career or having a lot of money. That is just one way. For some women it is all that matters, for others it won't matter at all. For a communist girl it would probably make her hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:58 AM
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Disagree. Being average is terrible. Being exceptional is better in everyway. I see very little difference in being average and being a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:44 AM
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You don't have to do those things to get great results, you have to do those things to get exceptional results. Most people who don't bother to look into these compounds dramatically overstate the negative side effects as a result of fearmongering from DARE lessons as kids. There are risks but when starting at the lowest effective dose while getting guidance from someone with a lot of experience and education will greatly greatly minimize risk and virtually all side effects are reversible and fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:42 AM
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You have to sacrifice SOMETHING, duh, you can't be great at everything. But to say you can't be great at more than one thing is bullshit. This is why periodization exists. The effort it takes to maintain a quality is SUBSTANTIALLY less than the effort to build it. Approximately 1/3 of the volume required to build. Your dichotomy with work and the gym is laughable at best. You can go to the gym an hour a day 3 days a week and get fantastic results in a year. Furthermore, these qualities aren't ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:40 AM
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Objectively they do. At least most attractive girls that most men want. The girls that say they just want a skinny guy or a fattie ime tend to be very insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:33 AM
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There's nothing wrong with a girl liking you for your money in the same way there is nothing wrong for you liking a girl for their looks. That being said, I find it very unlikely you managed to acquire substantial wealth without lots of other characteristics women would be attracted to. Hypothetically if you did, you can put that money to work by investing in personal development for characteristics you want girls to be attracted by.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:32 AM
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Mental Health like everything else is something that can be worked on and improved over time. Imo for the vast majority of people it has more to do with having an unsatisfying lifestyle as opposed to some chemical dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:30 AM
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Congrats, you picked one quote and called it a day without considering anything else... The fact of the matter is, to become elite or world class you likely need performance enhancing drugs because by definition they allow you to push past what is naturally possible for human beings. Most people don't need or want that though, which is why for most people they can basically stop at "advanced" and be happy enough with their winnings naturally. That being said, if you are in a disabled range for c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:27 AM
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tone-deaf mormon def not a mormon lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:25 AM
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Some guys for whatever reasons are very much against abs. I'm into fitness and personally any kind of fat hanging over is when I'm much more discriminatory for a serious relationship. For casual anything over 29. I personally like abs and I even like pretty muscular girls. HOWEVER, I don't like girls that are too skinny and weak either. For example, ribs showing is a huge turnoff. That being said, all of the "skinny" girls in the photo look fit and I'm attracted to all of them. That being said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:56 PM
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Then how do high school, college, and young adults ever get laid? This is only the case for ugly nerdy guys tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:48 PM
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Well, everyone has to develop everything over time. Getting better at anything without a stimulus to get better is insanely rare, and even when it is the case you have to have a stimulus to get the optimum response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:47 PM
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Ya, of course I do. To think otherwise is just naïve. It is fact in every study ever conducted on this subject that voice, height, muscles, faces have a consistently optimal range in terms of attraction and also respect generally. People are superficial on a biological level. You can be sure when he was running for president, his dancing with the stars clips were probably not a big part of his campaign, and a good deal of the people who voted for him probably were not entirely aware of everythin…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/22 03:25 PM
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Volodymyr Zelensky is the first genuine role model I've had, and is absolutely by far the most masculine person on the planet right now, and your critique of Putin and the manosphere is spot on. His wife is a knockout though, and he's fairly attractive as well imo, and he's also the president so, definitely still traditionally a masculine guy. Zelensky has values, genuine values, and bravery, genuine bravery. Putin probably thinks he does as well. putin is fighting for the wrong thing. glory. Ze…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/22 04:56 PM
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Idk if I would call myself a manosphere guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 05:01 AM
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dream woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:48 AM
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Don't you feel like you've missed anything though? How can you truly feel like you have someone who understands you by only trying out like less than 5 people? In my head the only sound way to find a suited mate is through volume and statistics. Which involves being romantically involved with a sample size of AT LEAST 100 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:34 AM
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Could be, at the bare minimum though it is very obvious drugs make a massive difference and make muscle gain very easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:16 AM
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A personal aside: I (24F) used to use dating apps but I quit them several months ago. I can't think of one good reason to go back. It's very simple. Volume and statistics. If you're hot, great photos, not too slutty you're going to attracts tons of quality guys. You can apply a basic filtering set of questions to see if the guy is too thirsty. If you can speak like a human being, tons of the great guys will actually want to date you and not just fuck you. Tons of guides for this. For every 100 g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:45 AM
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Fun fact, high dose steroid users routinely gain more muscle than natural weightlifters in controlled studies even with no exercise. But, to actually make the most from the steroids ya you'd wanna work out. Which you'd be more motivated to do on them btw lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:40 AM
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No, look like you're wearing blush. Look em up bro come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:39 AM
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I've had 3 relationships. All lasting 4-5 months. They all ended when they wanted to be more serious and I was not really thinking of them in that way. I just wanted the relationship experience with good enough girls. I am really really picky about the kind of girl I want to commit to. But I'm not that picky about going on dates and having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:19 AM
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2 words. Testosterone. Ok, 1 word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:12 AM
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Sounds like you just need to take a lot of fucking drugs then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:11 AM
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Basically the obvious stuff. Looks are basically the whole thing when you factor in how much being good looking really does for your life as a whole. Looks aren't LITERALLY the whole thing, because career, personality, intellect, etc all matter...but guess what, all those things are highly correlated with looks. #1 takeaway from the scientific literature, personal anecdote, and subjective dating experience? The biggest thing people can do to improve their lives is improve their looks. Get fit, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:55 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:53 AM
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The problem with this advice is that it is incredibly luck based. It's not a strategy. It's basically just "live life and let it happen" Which is....AWFUL advice, and pretty much only works for women even halfway reliably. If you want things as a man you have to take initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:42 AM
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Not impossible, but very hard, and very unlikely. So much so that the primary priority for an ugly person imho should be to looksmax as much as they possibly can. Probably the biggest value investment for them. That being said...there are two kinds of ugly. There is UGLY ugly. And there is cute ugly, like a pug. Some men are ugly in an adorable way. Some men are ugly in a gross way. Gross would be morbidly obese or super assymetrical or super fucked up feature like teeth, or jaw, or massive mass…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:39 AM
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No. I've never had a particularly deep connection with anyone outside of my immediate family. Just women I thought were attractive and nice to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:32 AM
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So you prefer to only interact with people who believe the world is a perfect place and personality and good heart is all that matters? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:30 AM
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I disagree. You can have a realistic understanding of how gender dynamics work in most cases without being an asshole or resentful about it. The 80/20 thing is proof of that. The basic self awareness that most people are shallow, not necessarily for bad or even controllable reasons, and you should try to maximize the appeal to that to ensure your odds are better does not make you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:02 AM
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You have the right to do what you want, but clearly just by being on this sub you're aware there's many people who understand a middle ground right? And just because someone is familiar with the manosphere or once believed in it doesn't automatically mean they're a bad person or continue to eat it all up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:51 PM
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The problem when you follow this philosophy is you'd be cutting just about anyone from your life if you caught them at the wrong place/time/context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:43 PM
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What I don't get is why someone who calculatedly fucking claws and climbs his way to success one ice pick at a time using a variety of resources would be in any way an inferior choice to someone who was just born at the top of the mountain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:18 PM
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This is a common theme I see a lot that always confuses me. Why can't you just...talk to them? Not that I don't believe red flags can have value. For instance, a red flag for me is if a woman takes too long to reply to texts. But I'd ask her about it, tell her I don't like it, and she could either adjust or explain why she doesn't text as much and based on her response I can decide. So why can't you just ask in the same way? "Hey, why did you bring up the 80/20 thing?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:16 PM
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You think being the average joe or even below average is ok and guys should just be cool with that and not take a systemic approach to improving their options, confidence, high quality of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:09 PM
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Maybe you're right, I'd like to offer a different perspective though. Personally, naturally speaking I am a fucking nerd. If there was no internet, all I had was a generic school education and raised by my parents...I'd probably be skinny fat, unathletic, anxious, and utterly generic in all aspects of my life. Probably some shut in loser virgin making min wage. Because for me, none of the stuff that women like comes naturally to me. Socializing doesn't come naturally to me. School doesn't come n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:47 PM
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As I said to someone else... Isn't there nuance? Fact: 80/20 is true in all of life. Not just 80/20. 20% and top 1% is also huge! Top 1% and top 0.1%?.... That doesn't mean you have to be hateful and jaded. It just means you are more realistic about what is needed to achieve as a man and have a high quality of life. Try your best using top notch research, coaching, and mindset and go as far as you can and try to find the best match you can. What is toxic and red pill about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:40 PM
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Isn't there nuance though? The fact of the matter is that 80/20 is true, not even in dating, but in all of life. And in reality, the difference between top 20% and top 1% is also huge! ANDDD the difference between top 1% and top 0.1%?.... That doesn't mean I have to be jaded and hateful about it. For me, it just means I have to work hard and consistently to increase my value. It doesn't mean I have to hate women or something. It just means maybe I am a bit more realistic about what I should focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:39 PM
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Ya, tbh idk how to go about it sometimes. RPill reddit is very toxic, they don't seem like the kind of people you can really be yourself and happy around. At the same time though, I find a lot of mainstream advice to be useless and toxic as well, just in a different way. Ideally I wish I had a partner I could have real discussions with, and not feel like I have to say/believe the socially expected platitudes around them...while at the same time them being like hot and loving lol. It is interesti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:29 PM
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The difference is how well you know someone, but ya I do believe it is socially a shit test. Especially things like height which matter more. Furthermore, with you it is the opposite, because most women like being short/small/feminine. If they started poking fun at your monster hands, it might still be friendly banter, but definitely more rude, and definitely VERY rude from a stranger. For guys height would be like that for you. Men are kind of forced to not be as sensitive about insults, but ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:48 PM
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Shit tests don't have to be vicious putdowns or anything. A girl "jokingly" saying something like "you're basically my height, right? 5'7, 5'8?" when you're 5'9 or 5'10 and she's like 5'6 lol. It's not that extreme but it is kind of a shit test. If you get defensive or nervous or insecure, you lose. If you challenge her, you break even. If you laugh about it and exaggerate, you win. And a lot of girls don't notice they do stuff like this, it just kind of comes out instinctively. Women do have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:06 PM
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I used this line a couple times and I think it perfectly captures what you've said. She said something like "do you tell every girl that? how many girls do you date?" Then I say something like "I could find another girl, true, but I wouldn't be able to find another you."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:56 AM
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I agree 95% But shit tests are SOOOO real. Every woman. Without fail. Even if she is obsessed with you 100% they're real. Just weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:49 AM
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Value is more than socioeconomic status. It is also social status. Looks. And yes, personality. A woman making 300k a year could very well absolutely be happy with a waiter making 50k...if he is hot, the life of the party, artistic, athletic, great personality, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:17 AM
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What's the pink pill? Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:16 AM
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Idk what the hell you're getting at. I'm saying it is simply false that everyone hates effort and risk. High test males LOVE it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:53 AM
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Simply put, men have less options outside of surgery to fake attractiveness than women do. Makeup CHANGES THE GAME for women. Heels, pushup bras, hair extensions, men do not have the same things. Here's what men have. - Chelsea Boots, or any minimal heel elevating shoe/boot (1-2 inches max tbh) - Well tailored shirts/suits. - Muscular/Strong/Vascular. - Being BALLSY! - Genuinely desiring her. The last 2 points are kind of cheating because it is a personality trait, but it is probably the ONLY pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:45 AM
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Jaded girls definitely filter themselves out easily. Almost without fail, it's a girl who is attractive and thinks the fact that all the guys she meets are interested in her means she can marry any of them and live happily ever after...so she chooses the best looking guy and winds up heartbroken. Jaded girls are girls who think that a guy being interested in how you look means a guy being interested in who you are. They never become self aware of this, they just start hating all men. The best gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:49 AM
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No. What almost everyone wants is a good girl/boy who can be "bad" in the bedroom and occasionally silly, fun, and spontaneous outside of it. Crazy girl who is hot and good in bed is not ideal, it's just more appealing than good girl who is boring in bed and whose passion in life is accounting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:43 AM
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Are you a troll. His entire post he's talking about what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:41 AM
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You said nothing of substance here. What sane human being thought a woman not orgasming ever is just fine lol. No one. Plenty of women have orgasmed before women on social media told them they should.... I'm open to hearing about the female gaze but you didn't define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:38 AM
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I have no problem with whatever you are saying. I just...I don't really buy it. Why? Because everyone I ask can't tell me what the fuck the female gaze is. Even now. You didn't tell me wtf female sexuality ACTUALLY is, you're just saying it ISN'T this other stuff people say it is... So what is it? The only thing I know about the female gaze that isn't what you'd expect is the hands thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:36 AM
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That's now why they do it. The limelight and celebration lasts a few weeks. Most who compete AT THE OLYMPICS never become celebrities, never win medals, so the reason they do it is because they do like risk. They do like effort. You don't get to that level if you hate risk and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:29 AM
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So full of shit not even funny. Money + looks + status is JUST TO PLAY! They're entry level shit. They're the shit you need to even be in the door man. It's not like quality women just appear from the fucking sky for you. It's just now you can have balls and talk to them and actually get dates. Having enough to play is barely any different than having them maxed out. Being a 10/10 guy is only marginally better than being an 8/10 guy. Your issue is thinking you do all that, and now as a man you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:41 AM
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Literally not true. High test makes effort feel good. Olympic Athletes basically work themselves to death for...a medal. Just to win. Just for glory. No money, no long term societal reward, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:36 AM
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Ya completely agree in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:34 AM
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He didn't say he was aloof and rude, he said he understood where it came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:18 PM
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Love it. Completely agree. Disagree that high N count women could not be just as valuable, but agree with the general point that marriage is risky and you want to hedge your bets. My thing is, if a woman was incredible in every way a high n count would in no way disqualify her. If she already had some red flags and then I also found out about high n count? Ya, I'd disqualify her for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:18 PM
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Casual sex...with genetically superior men. Usually alcohol involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:28 AM
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For the rich. What do you think motivates those ISIS grunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:03 AM
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It might be if they had some brothels though. Which was my point lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:53 AM
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All I'm saying is...it works for muslims. "male martyrs will receive 72 virgin maidens in paradise as a reward for their sacrifice."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:51 AM
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Could also be. Sounds much less academic tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:42 AM
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Well sexless, jobless, purposeless men are the biggest danger to society at large. Bread and circuses are necessary. Prostitution can provide that. They also serve as a way to satiate certain desires that could be very problematic for someone to carry around with themselves in their private life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:41 AM
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Dealbreakers, yes, but I disagree about the first thing. Fundamentally I think we should respect people who provide value to the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:36 AM
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Humans naturally ascribe a special value to it because WOMEN do. Because the consequences of sex have a massive disparity between men and women. Especially in the past. If women have sex it can results in months of hell, possibility of death, huge vulnerability, need a community or husband to help and support you during that time, huge stress on the body, huge emotional stress. For men, the consequences are much lower. Rape is psychologically worse for the woman, probably because of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:35 AM
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Well do you think it would be ok for me to not respect gay guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:24 AM
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Ok, but what about sex necessitates it being sacred and personal? Sex really boils down to hormonal and chemical impulses to procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:23 AM
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It's perfectly ok to be disgusted by stuff, disgust is something you can't really control without a lot of effort and exposure. But imo, you should be capable of separating disgust from judgement. I think 2 guys kissing is disgusting. It wouldn't be ok for me to hold it against them right? Now you're going to say paying for sex is different, and it is, but we should try to deconstruct what moral scruples you have with it and see if they're valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:19 AM
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Well, why do you think it is bad to view sex in that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:14 AM
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Yup, figured.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:13 AM
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Let's be honest, that last part is not the main reason you're judging them...because if they weren't a human trafficking victim you probably would still feel disgusted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:13 AM
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If someone has to pay to have sex, I agree. If someone just feels like having sex in a particular way with a particular looking woman at a particular time, and they have the means, idk why it is something to even care about or scoff at tbh. Should be seen like buying coffee lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:12 AM
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I promise you no one thinks like this lol Edit: I hate that short thoughtless throwaway comments like this one get any substantial amount of upvotes...I just dismissed the post with no counter argument and 30 people like it. Wtf human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:27 PM
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It should be noted that this category is wildly skewed by women with a double digit number of partners, who are significantly more likely to stray. That is....pretty huge to just glance over tho man. That means the way they conducted the study is really flawed. I think the better takeaway than focusing on marrying a virgin, is to just find a girl/guy who hasn't slept with more than like 3 people. Preferably their past partners are guys/gals that you absolutely demolish in the looks and bedroom d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:07 AM
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Look up every sales company in your area. Car Dealerships, Phone Stores, Pesticides... Walk in the front door and ask for a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:03 AM
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ya, but that's like, the bottom 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:02 AM
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Of course, that's how all conversations should be. I do get a bit more heated and immature on topics I actually care a great deal about tho lol, still human. For me, all the purple pill, battle of the sexes stuff are not topics I have an emotional stake in. It is simply what is right? If anything I want feminists to be right when it comes to the nature of the sexes, I just think they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:52 AM
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I just disagree that our culture is remotely close to being there. I think for women it is. Women are for the most part accepted now if they want to be muscular, lift heavy weights, join the military, etc. For men it is generally not socially accepted to be feminine yet. The kpop stars aren't exactly not masculine...first of all, they're stars. The LOOK is more androgynous, yes, but the songs, the presentation, overall is pretty masculine. Second of all, most western women age out of kpop around…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:49 AM
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The idea is to acknowledge that men can hold value beyond just being a financial provider. Men can provide by being a source of emotional support. Men can provide by staying home to cook, clean, and make home improvements. Men can provide by being the primary caretaker to their children. Ya. That's what I'm saying is a lie. Ofc I'm sure most women appreciate a guy that pitches in around the house...most won't respect a house husband though, and DEFINITELY not the primary care taker of the childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:19 PM
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Men are increasingly encouraged to not only accept but embrace their feminine qualities — such as being emotionally sensitive, being vulnerable with their fears and doubts, embracing "self care" as a means to soothe and take care of their mental well-being as opposed to "toughing it out", being allowed to enjoy the finer things in life that aren't super gruff and manly without losing their masculinity, etc. Ya, but outside of the superficial things it's a fucking trap. It is more socially accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:01 PM
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Mercy! It's just a boy!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:57 PM
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Everyone with half a brain thinks look matters. True. The question is if whether gen pop knows just how much looks matter...Do they think it is a small + ? or virtually the entire thing? I personally believe that very few people truly understand how much being attractive actually helps, and if they did, they would put wayyyy more effort and time into their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:10 AM
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If everyone was truly looksmaxing, you would think there'd be more attractive people, is all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:48 PM
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The number of socially adept people must be very small then, otherwise everyone would be looksmaxing. But almost no one does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:04 PM
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It's fair, but I think it is hard to blame people when they are raised and actively told those things for a very long period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:01 PM
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There is nothing wrong with beliefs of feminism itself. To me the biggest problem with feminism culturally has been its impact on dating discourse, impact on humor, impact on how men are raised. We are less honest to kids about the way the world works. More likely to coddle them. More likely to lie to make them feel better. More likely to be offended by jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:51 PM
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It's not that they like abusive men. They like high status men with power and confidence that can be rough in the bedroom sometimes, but instead they get value fakers. Probably because the girl in question isn't enough for the actual upper tier of guys, or those same guys don't see her as relationship material and in turn are more abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:43 PM
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When people say "watch what they do not what they say" it usually has nothing to do with literally not listening to what women/men tell you about anything. If a girl says she likes pasta more than brownies, I believe her. It's when it comes to topics we are SOCIALLY conditioned to respond a certain way to, but on a deeper level we don't. Things like "personality and a heart of gold is all that really counts" when in reality almost all of us have looks thresholds, the halo effect is a real thing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:37 PM
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And why do those instincts develop? Those are the questions we should be asking, because those are the questions that explain human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:51 PM
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Why do humans want to survive, why do many humans care more about their offspring than themselves, why do humans have a sense of pride/status/etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:51 PM
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He's my perspective. The number 1 goal of all organic organisms is to reproduce. Humans aren't all thinking consciously of that goal, many are but not all, but most humans at least are addicted to the subconscious desires that fuel that goal. I.E sex. And people work, have hobbies, etc to accomplish that goal. At the end of the day, the point of work is status and resources. The point of status and resources is to get women/keep women/provide for your offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:50 PM
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Ya, it's a fragile balance men have to walk. Work too much? She's pissed, she never sees you. Don't work enough? Not ambitious, loser. Balancing act.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:47 PM
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Sus af. More than half of the reason guys bother working is cus of girls. If he was into you, you'd get in the way of work not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:43 PM
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Most people are vanilla, prob less in the younger gens but most likely still mostly vanilla. There are def submissive men and switch men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:38 AM
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Attractiveness and overall pleasant to be around? That's basically how I choose girls anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:37 AM
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Ime, all the kinky hot girls do not go to kink events.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:49 PM
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Ya but most of the girls are....same story as the guys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:43 PM
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It depends on if you want to be more extroverted but just naturally aren't, or if you don't want to be that social. To me a more extroverted partner has been a good thing, has helped to break me out of my shell and meet lots of new people and even advance career wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:42 PM
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it could be an interesting experience though that develops you. Don't have to marry the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:36 PM
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Given, the men on the scene aren't really much to look at either Ya, that's what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:29 PM
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Because people have to go through a self discovery phase. Push their boundaries, tackle their fears, and try new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:22 PM
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From archer? That's based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:20 PM
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Height, social status and natural looks are far more important. This should be on a faq somewhere. I'd add muscle and low bodyfat but I guess that goes with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:13 PM
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Unless you're late teens/early 20s and don't really know yourself fully and don't have a lot of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:12 PM
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kink/sex party scene back around 2014/15 I think it's good advice for LTR but dude, those girls are not that hard to sleep with xD Imo, I think men should have a dating and self discovery part of their life. And trying out lots of different niches is a good thing. And trying to be "someone you're not" is a good thing if you don't already know who you are and you haven't tried a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:11 PM
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Bro you don't just "get" confident... Confidence comes from competence. Competence comes from past experience. If a guy isn't confident, he's gonna have to develop it by being tryhard, failing, and getting better overtime so it comes off as less tryhard once he perfects it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:04 PM
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100% agree, but most men would be well served fucking around for a few years instead of just going from serious relationship to serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:01 PM
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Disagree! If "who you are" is wearing horribly mismatched poorly fitted clothing, lack of drive and ambition, and extremely uncoordinated and weak...then you should change who you are and what you want to be!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:58 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that men don't really get a say on the women that we truly want, the "best" relationships are those we get to choose from a pool of women that are already attracted to you organically. 100% agree. Women almost always make the first move, men just capitalize on it. A guy that chases a girl who wasn't interested in him to begin with has a high failure/heartbreak rate even if they do date. The man a woman attracts has NOTHING to do with the man himself and everything to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:52 PM
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Almost no women prefer bald men. Balding is associated with aging and you pretty much can't pull off the look unless you are really tall or really jacked or both, even then you'd look better with hair. In fact, a guy's hair is one of the biggest things most women are attracted to. Particularly if it is thick and full. That being said, I think men are best served casting a wide net and filtering through interested women. Most guys look better with a full trimmed/stubble beard. All men look better…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:36 PM
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