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| 14 | Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men?Women do consistently over estimate their victimisation rates. Like there are studies into the paradox of gendered fear of crime. Moreover society treats female victims as better then male victims which means they are more likely to be on the news and people are more likely to treat female victimisation as an social epidemic even when there is literally 0 evidence of it. Sarah everard was a great example of this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/24 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women.Literally more men are victims of male crime then women are. So how can all women be victims of mens crimes but not all men. Your Literally victim blaming saying that a man who is the victim of a crime is inherently less deserving as a victim becuase he is a man. Regarding DV the majority of DV is not life thresting or risk homelessness. In the grand scene of things the amount of women faxing serious harm is a small percentage of the overall DV population. You can see this by just looking at how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women.I don't think it's about blaming women per say but acknowledging the systemic differences in how we treat women vs men. It's a lot more common to hear women say men should stop complaining because their lives are so easy. Most women I talk to are completely unable to empathise or acknowledge that men have issue and are very dismissive when issues are brought up often victim blaming men when attempting to address these issues. Moreover, it's fair to acknowledge that yes society does adore and pit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 05:50 PM |
| – | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”But when is it clear to do so. If I see an attractive lady and she doesn't see me do I first have to walk in front of her to see if her eyes dialate when she notices me. Thos isnt a rom con where whenever a girk sees an attractivd guy shes blushing and shit at a random guy at an airport. You can't really get any clear signals in a random non social setting. To get any kind of signal you have to approach them first | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/24 09:27 AM |
| 4 | Do you think there is "good" radicalisation?It's similar. But not exactly the same. Its more an attempt to make men more political conscious regarding mens issues. Viewing them as a political issue rather then an individual or even social issue. Grevience politics is one way of doing that. Framing mens issues as not just men or women's failing but the deliberate and sometimes malicious actions of the government. Its not a men v women thing. Men are victims we should act like it sometimes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/23 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Do you think there is "good" radicalisation?I disagree. Radicalisation doesn't imply a lack of objectivity but a deep dissatisfaction. It is more important we take strong sides then attempt to appease people who don't think we deserve human rights | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you think there is "good" radicalisation?Radical feminism is the backbone of all modern feminist discourse. It has had a disproportionate impact on society. It only looks bad to us but the reality is it has gotten significantly more done the use | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 01:10 PM |
| 8 | Do you think there is "good" radicalisation?One of the reasons why people don't care is an inability to perceive men as victims. You see a lot of victim blaming behaviour as a result of this. It isn't just a biological function but a socially enforced phenomenon. Current discourse spends too much effort lamenting this fact instead of shifting perceptions. Not to say they are comparable in terms of harm but you could compare it black Americans. We can shift the perception by highlighting the injustice done. People dont care because they th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | How to distinguish pathologization of male sexual desire from victim-blaming in the topic of clothing moderation?Victim blaming is different from risk management. So if I leave my door unlocked and I get robbed it's not my fault but you can see how my actions can have an impact on the outcome. it can be argued that people should take steps to limit their risk when they can and, although I disagree, wearing less revealing clothes could help. if we are talking just about ogling then I think it's fine to make an argument like this. Wearing revealing clothing is like wearing a clown costume outside. You should… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/23 11:06 AM |
| 4 | Gang violence as gendered violenceI used to use this definition in arguments. It highlights just how blind policy makers are to their own misandry. Also don't forget article 4 para 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention." Literally creating a two tier system where male victims are lesser. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/23 10:38 PM |
| 6 | Gang violence as gendered violence100% agree. During the whole Sarah Everard protests, it was pretty weird watching people pretend that women were the primary victims of street violence. As if guys were going around hunting and killing women. I think a violence against men and boys strategy would be a start. It would make the government actually treat violence against guys more seriously and hopefully remove women from the pedestal as the model victim. But at the root, it probably won't change much as long as we have a binary vi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/23 07:42 PM |
| 8 | Gang violence as gendered violenceI flip-flop on this issue quite a bit. I agree with your analysis that the majority of violent crime isn't gendered but I'm not sure if it is worth removing the lens of gender when analysing a crime. If I, a white guy, got into a drunken bar fight with a black guy, that wouldn't be a hate crime because I didn't punch him BECAUSE he's black. If I punched him specifically because he's black, that would be a hate crime. This is a good example because even though this is true we still have hate cr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/23 05:05 PM |
| 6 | What do you see as the problem with the Duluth model?This is the problem with gender based violence. It says that any time women are the primary victims of a crime it is because of gender and should be dealt with. However whenever men are the primary victims of a crime its due to literally any other reason or it just doesn't matter. Can you explain to me why murder or gange based violence under your own analysis wouldn't be considered gender based crimes? The victims are overwhelming male and they are victimised because they are men. Moreover, we … | /r/MensRights | 01/01/23 10:08 AM |
| 1 | An Unpopular Opinion... For You Guys, Anyways. You've Lost The Plot.It's not about men's or women. Men can be feminists. Also feminism made it systematic. Most people are apethetic to the idea that men can be victims. Feminists gave been openly hostile. So when rape and domestic abuse laws are being written or changed its feminists who work to remove men despite protests from mra groups. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/23 03:11 AM |
| 10 | What do you see as the problem with the Duluth model?That may be the origins but that isn't the definition. The un defines it as: Gender-Based violence refers to harmful acts directed at an individual based on their gender. It is not gender specific on the victim or the perpetrator. Yet as you pointed out it's origins lie in the assumption of female victimhood. Erasing male victims from existence. This is the same frame work that argues today that men cannot be victims of sexual or domestic abuse. The frame work and the language around it inherent… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/22 01:06 PM |
| 8 | What do you see as the problem with the Duluth model?Gender violence is a bad term and almost implies gender neutrality. It means violence against women and girls. So any analysis that uses the frame work of gendered violence is inheritely excluding men. Moreover, who would men on men violence not be considered gendered. If it wasn't impacted by gender victimisation rates of all forms of crime would be 50/50. You wouldn't call murder gendered though 80% of murder victims ate men. Anyway the problem with the duluth model basically ignores all the a… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/22 10:41 AM |
| 16 | An Unpopular Opinion... For You Guys, Anyways. You've Lost The Plot.I read through all of it and you seem to be very bitter for no reason. Some of the points you bring up make sense and are kinda valid. Critiquing members of the sub for not doing enough for mens rights would be a fair criticism. But if you were to apply it to any other movement you would realise that mist people online dint do shit in real. 90% of the feminists I know wouldn't do any kind of real world activism. Going to marches is probably the most popular but when you consider the social criti… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.I never said that all alcoholics are abusers. simply that it is an alternative explanation for violence at home then idea of control. A guy might not beat up his boss but he might start with a stranger at the bar because his drunk. The idea that alcoholism doesn't increase the risk of violence is completely and undeniably true. The idea that it would escalate what might have been a regular argument with your spouse into a violent confrontation shouldn't be denied. Gender might be the context of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.Firstly the majority of innocent victims of random violence do tend to be men. Secondly implying saying they had it happen to them because they were criminals is like saying a domestic abuse victim who hit her spouse first deserved it. If your not willing to look at the situations that caused them to commit crime and how those are gendered then why should take into consideration the external factors that would make domestic abuse gendered? Most perpetrators of domestic abuse don't do so because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.I think you mean the overwhelming majority of victims of murder are men. I do mean that whoops. I would agree with your point however for me the problem is if a woman is the victim of a random mugging a lot of people would consider that a gendered crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.People talking about it doesn't change the reality that societally and institutionally what I said was true. There can be a million articles as long as institutions fail to recognise it I can complain as much as I like. Its like telling a feminist to stop complaining about the repel of rhode v wade because there was a guardian article about it. I'm not saying I'm the first person to ever talk about male victims of violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.But for hate crime you need to actually prove the intent. When people mention gendered violence they don't actually mean that the person hit his wife because she was a women because the majority of the time he didn't. Their might be some underlying social and systemic reasons that might make a man more likely to hit his wife but he didn't do it because she was a women. He did it because he was an alcoholic for example. But for hate crimes, you need to actually prove the intent. When people menti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.This is what i would typically call victim blaming. that because men commit crimes its doesn't matter when men are the victims. You talk about gang violence for example without mentioning a lot of the victims happen to be random victims who had nothing to do with any crimes but happened to be in the way or mistaken identity. They also happen to be mostly men and boys. And this still makes it gendered violence the people who died whether they were criminals or not died because they were guys. gan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Gendered violence isn't really.Lots of men die because of a need to exert control and dominance over other men. Consider gang violence. If it wasn't gendered why are the majority of victims men? In fact, here's a simple example I like to use. If you a guy from a dangerous part of the city and a group of guys you don't know comes up to you and asks you "where are you from" the context behind whether you are a girl and a guy in that scenario is very different. Those guys may very well kill you and although they wouldn't say its… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:05 AM |
| 0 | Gendered violence isn't really.I can understand that and even agree with the statistic I just don't see why we would ever apply label all domestic violence as a form of gender violence. And then go on to use this as a justification for labeling other crimes as gendered. We know for example that genocide is typically gendered with men being the primary victims yet no one would ever call genocide a gendered crime. Worse yet people have "femicide" specifically to talk about when women are victims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 12:00 AM |
| -1 | Gendered violence isn't really.That doesn't make sense because gendered violence is about the victim, not the perpetrator. "Gender-based violence is violence directed against a person because of that person's gender or violence that affects persons of a particular gender disproportionately." This is the definition given by the EU commission. Why does the gender of the perpetrator have anything to do with gendered violence? It sounds like victim blaming to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 11:54 PM |
| 5 | Lack of empathy for men onlinehttps://epjdatascience.springeropen.com/articles/10.1140/epjds/s13688-020-00236-9 https://demos.co.uk/press-release/demos-male-celebrities-receive-more-abuse-on-twitter-than-women-2/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0894439319865518 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/11/21 02:01 AM |
| 23 | Lack of empathy for men onlineYou are not biased at all. I was having this conversation the other day. We often get blindsided by media narratives but the reality is men face more abuse online than women do. Most studies that look into this show that men face more hurtful comments than women. As a society, we generally feel like it's more justified to target men whether physically or verbally. This abuse is mirrored online. And when we talk about rape we rarely view men as actual victims of rape. TO men people you aren't act… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/11/21 02:29 PM |
| 26 | Why do men not care about male genital mutilation?It's probably better to ask why men don't care about any men's issue. Like if we find feminist to be openly hostile most men are just apethetic. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Are men more likely to face violent crime than women?It's even better then that. In the UK at least men are the primary victim of all non sexual offences. | /r/MensRights | 25/09/21 11:43 AM |
| 21 | Rape, and the male experienceHave you considered a therapist? I'm not a professional but especially as men seeing professional help is always a good thing. At least speak to your close friends or family. If you don't have a support system close to you I'm sure there are some charities in your country that can help. You're not a monster, your not s villain. You're a victim. If anyone disagrees with that you don't need to listen there opinion. I don't know if you want to go down the legal route. You're not obliged to and if y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/21 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Would you support marriage coercion laws?Sexual coercion laws are very narrow. So if you are guilt tripped into sex that isn't illegal. It might be imoral but I would say that if you are an adult you should have the maturity to say no. It would not be coercion to demand sex with the threat of a break up. That is called communication of your needs in a relationship. even if it's manipulative its not illegal. Similarly if you demand marriage, it is the responsibility of the other party to accept or refuse. A marriage can already be annul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 12:33 PM |
| 2 | Surprising facts regarding family courtI grew up watching my mum get beaten. It traumatised me. I harboured a lot of resentment to my father because of it. And I can relate to not knowing what a healthy relationship looks like. But not going to pretend like my dad hasn't tried for years to be a good person or father. Nor am I going to say my mum did the best job raising me. I know friends who were raised by drug addicts. If it was a toss up between a drug addicted mum and formerly abusive dad I would pick the dad every time. And I ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Surprising facts regarding family courtI didn't say a spouse who beats their partner. I said abuse. Abuse can be finicial, emotional or physical. And it doesn't need to seep into the parent child relationship. That's an assumption. We should take it into consideration. And why do you think an abuser is some one who has no problem hurting someone. Abuse is often associated with several external factors like substance avuse and poverty. If someone gets a better job and sobers up they are less likely to abuse. This is not a black and wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/21 11:19 PM |
| -5 | Surprising facts regarding family courtwhile I think that's is possible that an abusive parent can still gain custody. Allegations of abuse against your partner don't necessarily equate to abuse against your children. Also even if there were men who might gain some access to their children when they shouldn't it seems to be the case that this is more likely to happen with mothers. Considering that women receive shorter sentences for committing the same crime, including child neglect, under similar circumstances. It seems much more li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/21 02:19 AM |
| 4 | Do drunk women have agency?Depends. There is no clear guidelines on what it's the level of drunkenness you need to have. But the case in R v Bree it was verbatim said "drunk consent is still consent" but they also said "capacity to consent may evaporate well before a complainant becomes unconscious". Consider the case R v Hysa where the women was drink and high so couldn't remember whether she had consented or not. However, she was sure she wouldn't have consented. The courts left it for the jury to decide. Again there ar… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 10:05 PM |
| 8 | Do drunk women have agency?In the UK at least drunk consent is still consent. There is a limit, so if some one is technically still awake and incapable of responding and providing adequate consent it's rape. But if a very drunk person says they want to have sex and they agree to it as a matter of law in the UK it isn't rape. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Rape laws are bad. I give uphttps://www.dppireland.ie/app/uploads/2019/03/THE_CRIMINAL_LAW_RELATING_TO_SEXUAL_OFFENCES_AGAINST_CHILDREN_PDF_260906.pdf (The Public prosecutors defending the law + gisves a good rundown of all the sexual offences that are gendered in Ireland. I.e Incest or Rape) https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5da02a444653d058440f97bc (The supreme court decideing the law was ok) http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2006/act/15/section/5/enacted/en/html#sec5 (The Law in question) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Rape laws are bad. I give upIt is illegal. Basically someone under 17 can't consent to sex. If they have sex under 17 it's up to the public prosecutor to decide whether or not there was consent in the case. However, you can't convict a women for having sex in this scenario. So in the case I mentioned it was a 15 year old boy and a 14 by year old girl. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 02:56 PM |
| 35 | MP Jess Philips list the names of women killed by men last year but doesn’t say those who were killed by womenThis really pissed me off because of what the mps during the debate were saying. " "It is not women who are the problem here, it is men, and the criminal justice system fails women and lets men off the hook. Whether it is rape or whether it is domestic homicide, women are judged and blamed. ". This quote is the biggest yikes I've ever heard in my like. Like WTF imagine saying that about black people. WHy does society pretend like women are the biggest victims of violence in the world. And that t… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/21 06:08 PM |
| 1 | In society we seem to Women seem to demonise mens emotions as well as valid ways of men dealing with them.Not all men are violent. Bad men are violent, and bad men are unfortunately a part of every day life, not a rare outlier. Violence is a regular part of every day but not for women. The chance of you being attacked vs me is small. When you look at the number of women who get attacked by the husbands or by ex-partners or stalkers the number is surprisingly small in compared to how much women complain about it or overall statistics. The problem is that people don't really understand that if given t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:14 AM |
| 2 | In society we seem to Women seem to demonise mens emotions as well as valid ways of men dealing with them.Many women cry or self-harm when they are emotional. That hurts themselves. Many men get angry and yell at others when they get emotional. That hurts other people. NOT TRUE. Men are not violent people when they get angry. On average this may be the case but women can get very aggressive too and are often violent. When we say thing like this all we do is demonise men for existing. I don't want to be cliche but think about if you had said that about a black person The problem is thats really toxic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Men are actually underrepresented in politics.I can agree with what you say here. I was definitely being a bit clickbaity with the title and should have clarified more how the term representation actually directly relates to what I was saying. I do think what I am saying makes sense but i should try to edit it to make that clearer. Thank you | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Men are actually underrepresented in politics.Every argument ever made is often no more than a few assumptions. Most of what I said could be sourced. Thats how science works. (not claiming to be a scientist) Firstly, you argue that white men are more likely to go to prison than black women. You mix up two different kinds of oppression here, which doesn't work as an argument. I made this comparison to highlight the massive gap in how we talk about the criminal justice system and the types of prejudices that exist in it. So we talk a lot abou… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/21 10:03 AM |
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