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I don't feel like I'm giving you the effort in replies you deserve given your effort It's not an issue, I enjoy conversations as this on a self-checking level too. Contrary to how it might sound, there's still a lot I don't fully understand about all of this.
/r/MensRights24/06/18 09:25 AM
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I'm not sure why you feel the need to have "truly" free will. One thing you'll find in discussions like this, is that great care should be taken when examining these subjects. Still, I think the truth needs to be able to be lived out. If we must assume it to be true for us to interact with each other, should we not assume it to be true? Again, think of the implications of treating each other as meat robots. You yourself referenced that we act as though morality is evolved. Is then morality an il…
/r/MensRights24/06/18 08:05 AM
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Sure it's easy. My decisions are a function of eternal input and my brain. My brain is a function of my genes and external input. None of those things I've had control over. We are flesh robots, the end. But we contradict this in our actions. If I cannot act as though you are simply a flesh robot. You would not accept that. I would not accept that. Imagine the implications. Imagine law that treated you as nothing more than flesh, to be used to maximize whatever goals such a perspective, honestly…
/r/MensRights23/06/18 03:17 PM
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It depends on your epistemology and ontology. Some believe it requires God. Which seems truer and truer the deeper you dig. But you have things like ethical intuitionism, where the claim you're making is simply that it's reasonable to assume that things are the way that they appear. And since we all share a set of pretty good values from our judeochristian bedrock, that epistemology works pretty good. It's also an iterative philosophy, as things aren't always as they seem, so you dig and learn. …
/r/MensRights23/06/18 05:51 AM
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A moral realist believe that morals exist, and that moral truths are true. Harris believes that you don't have free will, that there exists nothing outside of the natural world. He's not a moral realist, because he doesn't believe that morals are real, though he argues as if they were. This is where the disconnect lies. It's hard to pin down exactly where his firm stances on reality and truth stop, and his "human suffering is bad, so now I get to say prescriptive shit" begins.
/r/MensRights23/06/18 05:13 AM
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Circular tautologies make for poor moral foundations. People only buy him saying that because we so strongly and intrinsically buy the concept that suffering is bad. But a naturalist cannot just say that, and have it be true. They must show it to be the case somehow. And I don't see how it's impossible that the word "bad" is nonsensical when you don't accept that there is something outside of the natural world. A lot of things seem nonsensical if you want to be rigorous within that perspective.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 12:18 PM
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I don't really know how to give recommendations on philosophy. Funnily enough, while I haven't posted in this sub in years, it's actually discussing things with feminists that drove me to seek out tools that I could use to assert the validity of my own positions, and theirs. That lead into the rabbit hole of political theory, economics and philosophy. If I had a question, I spent time looking for answers. Some answers are built on theories. So you have to look into those. And so you dig, you ask…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:36 PM
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Is it? Could you argue that from a naturalist position for me? By saying that human suffering is bad, I'm ascribing moral value to the reduction of human suffering. Moral value does not exist in the natural world. Saying that it's true that human suffering is bad is not provable by natural tools. Again, naturalist epistemology and ontology cannot bridge these gaps. I'm a moral realist, so I can say that without it being wholly parasitic on some hidden value system.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:15 PM
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Where are you pulling these terms from? They seem hyper-focused. I'm not sure what that means. Sam Harris does not believe that anything exists outside of the natural world. That is ontological naturalism. It's the appropriate term. And on a sidenote, and without offense intended, but your argument pushed me in the opposite direction, and instead leaves me with the relativistic sense that people commit to convenient moral and ethical philosophy based on their experiences and leave it at that. No…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:44 AM
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I'm not 100% convinced by the whole position that Sam holds, I do find it to be a good ethic and moral foundation though. How? What is the moral foundation? What is the ethic? I've never heard him do anything but assert that human suffering is bad, and that therefore we should act in a way to reduce it. I don't disagree, but I'm not a ontological or epistemological naturalist. The only explanation I can come up with, is that he assumes a set of values, without addressing their roots, which are l…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 01:46 AM
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It's not schrodingers feminism. It's motte and bailey argumentation. They assert that they're only proselytising equality between men and women. Once you accept that this is a good goal they bring in a host of baggage, from toxic masculinity to intersectionality. If you push back against any of this, they will then ask why you don't believe in the equality of the sexes, you fucking sexist. This strategy allows you to make bold, controversial claims (bailey) as if they were obvious and uncontrove…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:49 PM
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It's pitched in economics classes, because free trade and immigration are hugely beneficial on the net. I'm not a huge fan of the global governance aspect, but otherwise it's great. There's a reason for why free trade and open markets are one of the few things just about every economist agrees on.
/r/MensRights31/03/17 07:02 PM
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He's right in that it's a weird thing to link together. Plus, the leftists in academia aren't exactly fans of globalism either. It's the economists who advocate for that, and for good reason too.
/r/MensRights31/03/17 06:55 PM
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230 pounds sounds like lot, even for a bodybuilder. Also, what are you eating that's so expensive? Chicken, eggs, cottage cheese, broccoli, oats, whey etc. are not that expensive, even if you're eating like 3k calories a day.
/r/askTRP15/05/15 10:03 PM
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A lot of people believed they would. And now they're going to vote in the opposition, because they will change something, they will keep their promises. My dad think this, my grandfather thinks like that, most of my friends think like this. Election after election, like goldfish. The left is just as bad. It's politics, it's democracy. Dishonesty is encouraged. Say what you need to get elected, play the PR game.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/14 09:33 PM
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But to call them extreme right is insane. Look at Norway. Look at the amount of government control in the economy. Look at the amount of farm subsidies, and subsidies everywhere else. Look at the education system. Look at the VAT's, and the insane tariffs and the general protectionism. Look at the unions and the price controls. Look at the central bank and economic policy. They're only right in some classical liberal rhetoric, but as their march to freedom has amounted in little more than me not…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/14 02:06 AM
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It doesn't work fantastically. We're not special. Our government is as inefficient as any other. I'm not a huge fan of the gigantic, bureaucratic, paternalistic state sucking away purchasing power and choice. If we're the top in "pretty much every world league table", whatever that means, we're not setting the bar that high. Though I know that a lot of the data simply relies on simplified aggregate data that doesn't distinguish between government and private spending and wealth, which means that…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/14 05:09 PM
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It's weird that the article refers to FrP as rightist. Just about every party in Norway, like the US are defenders of the Status-quo. All political discussion, between politicians and pundits in the media is rarely about anything but small aspects of the system. Should this thing be increased or decreased a bit? Should we lengthen that? Should we raise this tax and lower another? And to be in favor of the status quo in Norway is to basically equal to a liberal progressive in the US.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/14 03:55 PM
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some work More than some honestly.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 04:04 AM
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There are many views thought that are based in real world facts though. If I say that women are stupid, I'm either correct, or not correct. If I say that the Jews are destroying the country, you can disprove me with rationality or empiricism. The real world isn't silent. The real world is the opposite of relativist.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 02:32 PM
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Views can absolutely be wrong. Your view collapses onto itself. If a view is relative, then your view that views are relative, is relative, meaning it's not true, nor false. Therefore, my assertion that views can in fact be wrong, or false, is just as valid. Lots of people have views that are flat out wrong. Or are you saying that racists and sexists and homophones and religious extremists just have different views, that are not wrong, and cannot be disproven by logic or rationality? Intellectua…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 12:27 AM
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Right, but views are either correct, or incorrect. I'm not a relativist. I don't believe everyone is equally right. This isn't simply a preference thing. You saying " I wouldn't say I was legitimising sexist attitudes, but I respect your opinion on the matter" is an empty statement. It's analogous to "nuh uh, but it's fine if you feel that way". You're not addressing what I'm saying. You're shoving what I'm saying away and replacing any thought out comment with platitudes and emotion.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:52 PM
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But your opinion on something doesn't make it so.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:03 PM
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Every thread. If you identify yourself with a label, you're carrying the same banner as everyone else identifying that label. You're legitimizing them. When an ideology gets to the point where the seeming majority of it has to be excused into being something else, it may be a problem with that ideology, and not some vocal minority part that isn't that minor at all.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 01:37 AM
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Nothing like a bit of Thomas Sowell to help clarify any issues relating to the interrelationships of government, welfare states and race.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 11:32 PM
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"Patriarchy hurts men too" was a cop out created after feminists got enough criticism over being one sided.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 07:12 AM
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Yes, I have a stake in my surroundings - what gives you the impression that I don't? "I'm also not invested in changing how anyone else thinks about their list of 'shoulds'." What directions have you suggested we move in have I actually disagreed with - aside from how to conduct a discussion. If you disagree with the directions I've proposed, I'm happy to discuss that, but that fact alone does not make what I'm saying utopian, or not based in reality. I don't necessarily think that people are aw…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 12:22 AM
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I have a tendency to look up information that contradicts my understanding just as a cross check. Meanwhile, I evaluate my sources when processing new information. And, I do read a whole lot of stuff - my curiosity just might kill me in the end. ;) Yeah, of course. It's important to know what your opposition thinks, especially if they believe just about the opposite from you. It is really important to understand both sides. I do agree that there is an insane amount of information out there, but …
/r/MensRights25/04/14 08:44 PM
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I'm not sure what your Netflix subscription has to do with anything but... I, also, find movies to be less entertaining and more redundant (remakes). It was an example where too many choices led to no choice. As for the Socratic method, I suppose it matters what information you want to digest. Not all information is created equal. I might make something up that seems to describe a phenomena and be completely wrong. Someone's opinion based on his/her person experience of life is not comparable wi…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 07:48 PM
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I do mind since not all information is created equal. The Internet has given rise to a soap box for 'self made' or 'so called' experts who's methods are ambiguous at best. This information is often presented as 'fact.' But again, that's why you need philosophy and critical thinking and to find a strong base. Find out what you believe, test those beliefs through the Socratic method, and see what you end up with. There is too much information to ingest, but the same was true for a dude sitting in …
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:28 PM
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Technology has created it's own monster - which is the generation of so much data, that sifting through it to find correct information or even relevant information is difficult. I don't really mind that at all. You just have to know what you want to study. This is why context is important. Without context (what circumstances) then no one knows what rape even is to pinpoint why it's always immoral. Well, it's true that context matters for determining if something is rape, but the context of the r…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 01:28 PM
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This isn't the actions of just one person though. Half the people in here are banned from /r/feminism and it's sister subreddits. And we see this fascist tactic used even outside reddit. Have you maybe seen what happened at Warren Farrels lecture in Canada? Or what happened to that female lecturer (Christina Hoff Summers) disrupted her lecture to the point where she had to just leave. The same trends can be found everywhere you find feminists. It's an ideology, and heretics need to be punished.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 10:30 AM
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Anyone should be wary of movements using censorship as a tactic. It's a common trait of authoritarian and fascistic movements. I was banned there too a long time ago. Can't even remember what it was anymore. Pretty sure I asked a question questioning the logic of the theory of patriarchy or something. Anyways. Not sure what to say about that. The more I learn about feminist theory, the more I despise it. The more I interact with feminists, the less I want to. The more I learn about the actual fi…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 10:23 AM
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Further back in history, knowledge from different parts of the world were difficult to gather since book making was not easy. This lead to the rediscovery of many things which were previously discovered - or new discoveries based on things which were discovered before their time. Right. Technology has fixed this problem though, so that's a non issue by now. You would pick rape - the one thing I could never discuss again and be happy. Rape is always wrong - except, these days, we don't even know …
/r/MensRights25/04/14 06:14 AM
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They do. Many technological advances were delayed by centuries because of lack of access. We're changing a lot of that now. Still, information is only one part of the problem. Correct information - even more so. Maybe it would be easier to distinguish between contextual morality and fixed morality. Contextual morality takes into reference all the other factors involved. Fixed morality would mean something is always right/wrong. I tend to be a more contextual moralist. I'm not sure what you mean …
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:49 AM
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I'm not sure that eating dead humans is immoral. I mean, it's disgusting, and it is fucked up by most standards, but immoral? How so? It leads to certain neurological diseases, that's true, but the only immoral part is the acquisition of the bodies. Our limited lifetimes don't really post much of a hindrance, just like our limited lifetimes do not make technology impossible to improve. Just like technology, philosophy in general is continually improved upon, now more so than ever. The philosophe…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 03:57 AM
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Right after we teach them economics? ;) The economics are certainly important, especially for the people that don't really care about ethics or morality, but the fact that it's morally wrong should be enough to convince any decent person capable of rational thought. If I wanted to make a case against slavery when that was going on, I wouldn't burst into a speech about how slavery was holding back the advancement of capital goods in the fields, to say it in another way. That is totally fair. When…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 03:19 AM
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I think the very least we can do is to make people aware of the implications of common sense morality. If theft is wrong, then taxes are wrong. If slavery is wrong, then conscription is wrong. If serfdom is wrong, then property taxes are wrong etc. That, and basic economic theory to combat the absolute insanity of the economic policies in the world today. Did you know that there hasn't existed a good defense of tariffs in over 200 years? Not since David Ricardo wrote about comparative and absolu…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:55 AM
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I moved around a lot as a kid (dad was military) so it is possible that I literally did skip the year they taught economics. Either that, or it consistently seems that people in other countries have much more outstanding knowledge of economics than I do. I keep running into this - seriously. Thank you for the list. Haha, I'm not sure they teach economics at all in the US (in the mandatory schooling), and they certainly don't do that in Norway. When I first started looking into economics, my mind…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 01:58 AM
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It's great that you want to learn. Economics in One Lesson is amazing, and easily available online. Seriously, if you won't read or watch anything else, just read this. It's easily understandable, but extremely important. Man, Economy and State by Murray Rothbard Here's a study guide to Man, Economy and State: http://mises.org/books/messtudy.pdf Here's some amazing lectures: [The Problems with Keynesian Solutions to the Current Depression, Robert P. Murphy](The Problems with Keynesian Solutions …
/r/MensRights24/04/14 08:51 PM
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Well, that just kind of shows your understanding of economics. Back, right before the 20's, and back, there existed friendly societies for the less fortunate, where they payed one days wage for a year of medical care. These also existed as social clubs. Medical care doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be as expensive at it is. There is an insane amount of regulation and red tape, and protectionist policy, along with some of the mechanisms of your healthcare system that drives up the prices. Withou…
/r/MensRights24/04/14 08:14 PM
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I know.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 07:34 PM
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I think it's fucked up to advocate that the state forces someone else to pay for your shit, no matter what it is. It's obviously immoral to do this yourself, but it's OK when you're using a proxy?
/r/MensRights24/04/14 05:19 AM
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Sure! If you enjoy Sowell, you're probably going to enjoy this lecture as well. It really gives you all the information you need to be able to decode any attempt at using discrimination as reason for legislation and anything else really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKgHc6bWqZ4
/r/MensRights07/04/14 04:33 PM
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There's some incredibly flawed views in there though. Human beings are flawed, therefore we need to give some humans legitimized political authority. We need legitimized coercion essentially.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 03:57 PM
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Sewell? You're talking about Sowell right? The brilliant economist?
/r/MensRights07/04/14 03:56 PM
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Such a great movie.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 11:40 AM
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she took pains to accommodate working mothers only she did in a way that did not give them special status. These contradict each other.
/r/MensRights05/04/14 06:55 PM
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2/2 Now suppose you're an employer, and you're looking for a high-school graduate for some job, and it costs you a 200$ to interview a person in personnel and travel costs. Would you send your requiters to New Yorks inner city schools? You probably would not. Why not? Because you have a distaste for blacks? Well, maybe, but one thing is true: that you anticipate the probability of finding a successful candidate in the inner-city schools in the inner-city schools of New York lower than your chanc…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 07:04 PM
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Why do you think any other country is so much better off? Purely economically speaking, about every western country, and japan is run on keynesian policy. Japan has a huge problem with it's growing elderly population, and the pyramid scheme that is social security will probably end as badly there as it will in the US. Sweden used to be an amazing country economically speaking, but they still haven't recovered from their two depressions (in the 70's and 90's), where they devalued the kroner twice…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 11:21 PM
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Her mind, and the fact that she's a bisexual single mother. She can't just be brushed as a neckbeard, or as a misogynist, or as a bitter man.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 11:47 PM
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Around the one hour mark. Or Just skip around a bit from the hour mark to around one hour and 30 minutes. She's the woman in black.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 12:37 AM
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Lol at that one feminist during the QA. "What's happening to the menz isn't systemic silly, also, why do you think it's okay to punch women" The reaction of the crowd is great.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 12:08 AM
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I refused to let my dad pay after I turned 18.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:43 AM
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Don't quote me on this, but I remember reading a study where over 50% of women said they would find it acceptable to deceive their partner about taking birthcontrol if only one of them wanted a baby.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:32 AM
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You can't really have civil discussion with ideologues. I mean, you can try, but it won't get you anywhere. If I were you I'd probably not want to spend time with this person. I believe that people are what they believe, and what this person believes is insane and damaging.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:30 AM
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I laughed.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 03:23 AM
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Really great presentation. You're a natural. I wish you brought up the lack of shelters for men. If you had talked about Earl Silverman you would have made a really strong impression. It was one of the things that got me really into researching more seriously feminism and it's impact.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 03:16 AM
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I've never really liked her. When I heard her say that stupid shit it basically confirmed my beliefs. I don't buy her "lolsorandum" behavior either.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 11:02 PM
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Well, I'm very much against victimless laws. Optimally every case should be handled individually to figure out if there is a victim or not.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 08:29 PM
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Partially, sure.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 05:25 PM
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You know what, I'm not sure what the answer is. I actually saw an article recently going against a lot of what the government has said about the effects of pedophilia and molestation. Apparently it didn't always cause great harm, or lasting effects. The main point of the article was that this was muted. They were first asked to "tone it down", and then the studies were simply refused. That the truth was being filtered and edited away. Furthermore. In the case of a five year old, the parent has f…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 05:08 PM
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Yes. A five year old is barely old enough to decide what to have for breakfast. Furthermore, that responsibility ultimately fall with a legal guardian. That's one of the many reasons I think good parenting is vital for our society to improve.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 04:42 PM
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If there's no victim, there's no crime. If the victim doesn't feel victimized, has there been a crime? Even if I do something objectively wrong, like bump into someone with a car. If they go "Oh, don't worry about it, I wasn't paying attention", should you call the police?
/r/MensRights16/01/14 04:33 PM
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Oh, okay. Well, I'm still looking forward to it. I loved your presentation at the libertarian party last year. Without it I might not have been an AnCap today. Actually, without watching "the disposable male", and most of your other videos I probably wouldn't be an MRA either. It's sounds cheesy, and you've probably heard it a thousand times, but thank you for that. You've really set me on the path to becoming a radically different person than I would ever be without listening to you videos.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 08:57 PM
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That doesn't stop them. Think of it like a feminist being against sexism, while simultaneously preaching to her son about how he shouldn't rape anyone, while telling her daughter to watch out for the rapists.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 06:26 PM
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"its not rape, its socialization of the means of production!" Haha!
/r/MensRights14/01/14 04:40 PM
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Naomi Wolfe Speaking as a libertarian: This isn't a good strategy for winning over a libertarian crowd either. This would be a home run in a socialist/communist Marxist crowd, but not necessarily a libertarian one. It's the liberals that hate the rich "oppressor" class. That being said, I'd very much enjoy seeing Karen destroy Wolf.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 04:40 PM
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Except it isn't arbitrary. At all. It's relative to the regional market. And the basic necessities of survival have already been defined for quite some time now. IE it isn't simple but it isn't arbitrary either. It isn't undefinable either. You just don't want it defined because you're afraid that some day someone might tell you that you have to pay a person at least this much and it might be more than you'd like to. Even though you'd never take that pay yourself. Let's say two people apply for …
/r/MensRights13/01/14 09:51 AM
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just me and every other economist then.. Every other Keynesian maybe. Post hoc ergo propter hoc, again simple keynesianism here its been observed multiple times Haha, yep, Keynesian. the state is an actor just like a firm or a worker the difference is in market where there is an oversupply of labour and no alternative, the market becomes ripe for abuse. especially given the total lack of an alternative to starvation and dying. No, the state has no money. All the money it has it either prints or …
/r/MensRights13/01/14 08:06 AM
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no, that's a dictionary definition of a fair share Again, this is arbitrary. There is no fair share. Your fair share depends on your human capital, and what job you have, and what you are producing in terms of profit and product/quality of service. and again if you helped generate the wealth, don't you deserve a share of it. if you exchanged your labour capital and your employer exchanged monetary capital, why is your labour capital your investment taxed at twice the rate of his investment. But …
/r/MensRights13/01/14 06:45 AM
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You claimed that a living wage isn't real. Then you described multiple conditions that could be considered a living wage. Yes, but it isn't real in the sense that it's completely arbitrary. I worded that poorly. When you pay someone an egregiously and destructively low price for a product and use economic leverage to put them in a position where they have to take the deal, you're committing both fraud and racketeering. I don't like those things very much at all. What I do like is paying a reason…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 06:14 AM
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no market is free from distortion and deregulation is not how you make markets more competitive. A free market is free from distortion, and extremely competitive. Much, much more competitive than what we have now. This results in better quality for less money, and higher real wages. Fair is the equitable division of the rewards of your effort. This is a tautology. I agree that you should be payed the market prices of your effort though, but only if your effort is up to the standard. a quarterbac…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 05:15 AM
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I think it would get more traction if they referred to it as a fair wage.. That's just as stupid. What is fair? What does one person deserve? There are no right answers to this. I would rather just abide by basic economical principles and get a job where my market value lies until I can build enough human capital to rise. Alternatively I could make my own business, but that also requires real economical knowledge. I believe poor people would have much more success in a freer market, not a more l…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 03:16 AM
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Did I ever say it wasn't? I know the economy, and the market has become all sorts of fucked up. That doesn't change the fact that a "living wage" is a completely arbitrary, feel good, buzzword concept.
/r/MensRights13/01/14 02:01 AM
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Living wage isn't real. It's an arbitrary concept. It meant something different back then than it does now. A living wage for me is very little. I don't eat expensive foods, I only use a moderate amount of electricity, and my hobbies are cheap. I do fine right above the poverty line. A single mother of two? A family of five? Should I receive a wage that can support a family of five working a menial job? Most businesses would collapse, but most of all small businesses run by the average person. T…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 01:27 AM
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Haha, jesus christ. You spent 20 minutes, and then decided it wasn't worth your time? Sounds to me like someone didn't want to dig themselves deeper into a hole of emotional pseudo-reason. I have actually researched the numbers. They're mostly based on the averages between several studies, as there tends to be a bit of manipulation regarding controversial themes even in something that should be purely empirical and fact based. I have considered your points. I believed them at one point. And now …
/r/MensRights13/01/14 12:45 AM
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Dr Michael Flood, from the University of Wollongong's Centre for Research on Men and Masculinity, said these types of male studies "really represents the margins". "It comes out of a backlash to feminism and feminist scholarship. The new male studies is an effort to legitimise, to give academic authority, to anti-feminist perspectives," he said. I hate people like this. A perspective is either based in reality, or it is not. This is what happens when you go into college and suddenly everything i…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:44 PM
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I feel like this falls into the whole thing where allowing women full accountability, full agency becomes misogynistic. If you don't shield women from the possible consequences of their actions, you're not for equality. Women are never bad people in the same way men sometimes are bad people. No. It's probably postpartum depression. It's hormones. Maybe she had depression and just needed our help sooner?! This is on us, on society, not on that poor woman. This is why we need feminism George Orwel…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:32 PM
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One tip for dating single moms: 1 Don't.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:25 PM
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"I acknowledge class warfare" Haha, what kind of marxist communist pages are you subscribed to?
/r/MensRights12/01/14 05:18 PM
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Oh I forgot that one country can accurately represent a global stance. Consumer spending and voting more-those are interests. If you say women vote more, why do they? Because maybe more women than men want to vote? That has nothing to do with gender equality, whether or not they choose to vote. This is a trend trough the entire west. Women control more money than men globally. Rationalize all you want, facts are facts. They have more political and economical power than men in most first world co…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 04:55 PM
1

Well, you mind might just be a bit too gaping. Catching up is not what they are doing. Literally every shelter in Canada is for women. Look at the front page of /r/MensRights right now about the state of male poorhouses vs. female ones. Women are doing much better in education, at the same time as they are getting over 90% of the help. This is mirrored again and again wherever gender is relevant. Women control 80% of consumer spending and vote more which means more political power if you have an…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 02:10 PM
1

So why aren't they handing over 50% of women shelters to men? Why aren't they actively fighting for conscription for women? Why aren't they fighting for an equal help for men and boys in education? Maybe because it's completely one sided? You can't achieve equality by fighting for one side only.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 01:37 PM
7

Someone should make an article about this. Make amateur journalists in every state travel to their nearest shelter, for men or women, and make a whole comparison article. I doubt very many people know about this. Not sure if anyone would change anything if they did, I mean, the feminists must know, and the relevant people in power know.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 11:51 AM
0

Feminists are not the true arbiter of gender equality. If you do even a small bit of research, this is glaring. But furthermore, at most, they want equality for women, whatever the fuck that means. Not for everyone, for women. Reminds me of the novel "Animal Farm" by George Orwell.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 10:44 AM
3

is there no glass ceiling in norway? because i am pretty sure norway is much more progressive than america is. As I said, studies have come out showing that women are at no disadvantage. my whole point is that feminism is (or should be perceived as) a plight of understanding. men and women should be able to make decisions for themselves and receive support regardless of what sex they are, and should be judged as human beings. i think that the harshness of a man's life is directly proportional to…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 06:35 PM
-1

The only issue I have with posts like these is that they place themselves above feminism, as if they are better than that, as if being a feminist is something to be ashamed of. Which completely brings us back to square one. It's critical of feminism and what it has become. Are you trying to insinuate that if feminism gradually died off in the next six months, we would go back to the 19th century in terms of equality? And being a feminist is certainly something I would be ashamed of, at least as …
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:36 PM
-1

Seriously though I would argue that I need feminism because the way some women in places like Saudi Arabia are treated upsets me. "I need money because people in Africa are poor."
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:31 PM
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women make up 51% of america's population, and they do vote more--more women go to school, even, than men--but that does not change society's perception of them, nor does it change pressure on what it "means" to be a man. many women might tell you that they feel they are underrepresented. how many congresswomen have we had in office vs. congressmen? how often do we focus on women of power in media, without judging their character or capacity by appearance? how many female writers, artists, inven…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:27 PM
2

Hank Green is awesome, but he really missed on that comment. I mean come on, having preferences is literally abuse?
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 10:27 AM
20

Well that was hard to read. so when you apply this perspective to the sexes, and when it is acknowledged that we live in a patriarchal society Is it though? Women control much more money than men do. Women vote more, and if you have any faith in the validity of our political systems, means they have more political power. I could go on and on, but women in the west are far from disadvantaged. You women now both earn more, and do far better in education. THAT is what feminism is about Is it though…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 09:34 AM
7

Another sobering trend is the sentencing length in vehicular homicide. If you run over a female, you receive a much harsher punishment than if you run over a male. If you're a male running someone over, you receive a harsher punishment than if you're a female running someone over. This trend is mirrored in a lot of crimes, especially ones relating to sex and pedophilia. In essence, there is an institutional bias, before, and after sentencing. This is pretty serious stuff, but it's rarely talked …
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:34 AM
2

Trust me, I know all the numbers. I might be wrong, that's just what it sounded like.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 01:09 AM
16

That movie looks like it was made by feminists. "Masculinity is bad and poisonous, and leads to men being everything that is wrong with the world".
/r/MensRights09/01/14 01:00 AM
2

It's not offensive It's not offensive to you, or to me. Tell this to the average progressive however, and they will piss themselves.
/r/MensRights22/12/13 02:09 AM
2

Yeah. It may sound offensive, but if you look into it, men do better mostly everywhere. Look at chess for gods sake. It's purely intellectual.
/r/MensRights22/12/13 01:35 AM
3

Aren't men both smarter and dumber than women at a higher rate, while women tend to be more average? Like this
/r/MensRights21/12/13 08:56 PM
20

I have, it's doubleplusgood.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 12:24 AM
41

It's a fundamental lack of consistency. People have no problem holding contradictory beliefs.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:44 PM
11

A lot of feminists wish it was, but no it isn't. The best reason to not have a death penalty for rape is that it hurts the victims. If you kill your victim you're much less likely to get caught. And if the penalty is death for both crimes, why not?
/r/MensRights19/12/13 12:44 AM
2

Oh, in that case, sure, why not? Restitution should be more important than justice or punishment anyway.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:28 PM
2

Several reasons. We conflate women and feminism. We think that feminism is simply the quest for equality. We have certain biases, some natural, some societal. We go against the narrative, or zeitgeist. Also, what's up with the downvotes in this thread?
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure double punishments are against your constitution.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:23 PM
1

While I don't really disagree with any of your points, except 9, I would rather just limit the state to where it doesn't have enough influence to create inequality. The free market is one of the most effective tools there is for equality. Now, this is just me being an AnCap, but I've spent a lot of time learning about this stuff, and I truly think it would be a better solution. Less coercion, less theft, less institutional bigotry and less discrimination. If you want to use to government as a to…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:21 PM
1

Even thought that was a wrong move, I can assure you that this is not the reason we are known as a hategroup. We didn't have to do anything to be flagged as a hategroup.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:11 PM
91

It's a vital difference. I'm with Warren Farrel on this, they shouldn't be sued. They should receive the punishment the man would have gotten.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:09 PM
7

There's a lot of subs that are incredibly feminist sympathetic to put it mildly. In a way, helps to show people how fond they are of silencing dissidents.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 07:06 PM
7

"If women reported every rapist the economy would collapse. It would be like the rapture. Half the population would be gone." Holy shit. I wonder how it would be to spend a few hours in this woman's head.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 07:07 PM
1

You have a romanticized view of Montessori. Well, not really. Again, I'm not saying Montesorri in particular is great, I'm using it as a directional tool so you understand where I'm going with my arguments.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:47 PM
1

Just to be clear, It's not monetorri itself I'm advocating, but something in the direction of montesorri vs. normal school system. Did you watch the video above? If I had my way, children would be taught rationality and critical thinking, and then sent on their way to study whatever they fancied. Children love to learn, but not in the way we try to teach them. It's like sex. Most people love to have sex, but once you introduce coercion into the mix, it turns into something completely different. …
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:50 PM
1

No, Montessori is no better. Thanks for the well thought out argument.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:10 PM
1

Well, you'd have to look into this particular school yourself, but yes, private schools are better, almost by definition. Of course, private schools that exist for specific reasons like religions aren't by default better, but a normal school is. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be successful. Though, in relation to gender specific issues I have no idea. I would suggest you look into something like a Montessori school also. The current and common teaching methods aren't much more than making kids shut u…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 04:00 PM
3

That is the rationale that is being commonly used to gloss over misandry. Personally I never use the word, as I prefer to use specifics instead of a word that is so easily misinterpreted. Both misogyny and misandry carry an absurd amount of connotations that tend to overrule the intended meaning. Furthermore, we are so cognitively biased that for us to be able to see issues that affects males, we have to unlearn so much. It requires effort, and it requires a process that can be uncomfortable for…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 09:23 PM
6

Jesus Christ.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 08:56 PM
6

I hate those self-righteous circlejerks. They contradict themselves always. If they were right in their assertion that reddit is some white male privilege dripping misogynistic hellhole of patriarchy, they wouldn't be upvoted, they wouldn't be so widely accepted, and their rhetoric wouldn't be swallowed whole.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 08:53 PM
5

Well, harassing is power+harassing, thus only white males can harass. If the roles and sexes were switched, the ethics would also switch, because fuck consistency and integrity.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 11:22 PM
44

Wait, I thought it was a deadly sin to even suggest that women get hormonal. Where's the consistency?
/r/MensRights13/12/13 11:17 PM
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society, some of which are men, through among other things certain policies, behaviors and attitudes. It would be nice to see a citation where feminists present the concept of patriarchy as you say, otherwise it would seem you're attacking a straw man. There are no citations for patriarchy. It's vague, purposefully so. A lot of them believe that since some men hold all the power, all men have power, therefore all men are responsible at a level higher than that of women. The oppressed can't be op…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:31 PM
9

Jesus christ.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:28 PM
1

I'm sorry that happened. I don't know what support you have available, but I would at the very least consider therapy, and if not that, self knowledge.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:26 PM
12

It's just a badly thought out excuse. Every time a man doesn't like you, you can just turn it around and free yourself of any introspection and responsibility by saying "Oh, he's just intimidated by [personal trait] women." How often don't you hear about "men are intimidated by intelligent women" Also, you can't expect people to have a balanced view of what misogyny is. It may have had a meaning in the past, but now it often just boils down to "It relates to women and I don't like it". Giving wo…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:22 PM
5

I don't have any money, sadly. I would have loved to help her. It would be amazing if we could undo the damage these feminist did though.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:19 PM
1

Oh, I don't disagree. The only person I respect in that bureaucratic hellhole is this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBVFpYN0iNo
/r/MensRights11/12/13 03:18 PM
3

Well, it's not even that. They don't understand morality or ethics. It means what it needs to mean. There's no universality or consistency. That way they can perpetually remain on their self righteous moral high-horse.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:54 PM
3

I can't really take any of those institutions seriously. They're filled with people who live in theoretical bubbles of bureaucracy. If it sounds good, and the immediate effects are positive, then it translates into good policy in their minds. And it is, if you're a shortsighted, narrow minded bureaucrat.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 11:41 AM
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There's just so much real world evidence that agrees with this. I think it's amazing that we are able to keep up with the zeitgeist we have created without alarm bells going off in our heads. Edit: I love that ending. Bet that raised the blood pressure of many feminists.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 06:19 AM
8

There's a strong trend of trying to become politically correct here.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 06:16 AM
1

Why?
/r/MensRights10/12/13 02:46 PM
4

Real atheists Uh huh.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:40 PM
0

It's not about that. It's about giving people a choice. People often assume that leaving a kid with it's mother is the best for the kid, when statistically, few things are more damaging. That is what this is about. That doesn't justify coercion. That's what I hate about you people. This authoritarian style "the ends justify the means, but only the means of my narrative" type attitude. Take your overly simplistic fallacious statements back to /r/againstmensrights
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:38 PM
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Yeah. I'm an AnCap, and even I think the people over at /r/anarchism are insane. I saw a guy get banned for patriarchal speech once. That might have been /r/communism though, they both eat up feminist rhetoric wholesale..
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:25 PM
1

186cm
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:22 PM
1

I don't mind that he posted those threads, but he isn't exactly persuasive.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:21 PM
6

I think it pisses you off because it's one sided and disingenuous. Studies done here in Norway have shown that women do not have any disadvantages in the business world. I don't know if you saw it here, but there was posted an article about how the glass ceiling was demonstrably disproven. What actually happened was that feminists institutionalized sexism by radical measures and affirmative action before they had any empirical evidence for their claims. At least you can appreciate the irony.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:15 PM
14

Nothing new there. Atheists aren't smarter than anyone else, which is was extremely apparent, or rather, is extremely apparent if you look at the whole Atheism+ fiasco.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 01:13 PM
1

Yeah, that's the point. It's nothing more than groupthink.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:32 AM
1

It doesn't create wealth, it distributes wealth? I could be confused on what you mean by allocating here though.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:43 AM
2

No, I get it, and I mostly agree, but I can't support something that is unjust when it benefits the people who generally get the short end of the stick. I've talked a lot about why men shouldn't get married on reddit, and I fully agree that everything surrounding marriage is riddled with double-standards. What I'm arguing here is pretty minor though. Again, I do agree with what you're saying. Fuck it, you're right, I'm wrong. It's just an ethics and reason hangup on my part. I can over analyze t…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 04:58 AM
1

What is it then? I think I've outlined my stance nicely, which part would you change?
/r/MensRights07/12/13 04:38 AM
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You don't get it. At all. I do actually get it. It's the double standard. I know, I acknowledged that. Your response suggests that double standards ought to be tolerated. No, I suggested that we remove the double standard trough the opposite, reasonable way. Instead of giving everyone an equally absurd amount of money for being married, I suggest we take it the other way and make marriage less risky for men especially considering how the laws are set up, but ultimately fair and reasonable. You s…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 04:27 AM
1

I understand there is a double standard, but that doesn't mean we have to lower yourself to the point of removing that double standard. I see people here too often almost mimicking feminist outrage and over-sensitivity. Let's be the reasonable one's instead.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 03:59 AM
3

Probably, but fuck, isn't 13 million enough?
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:43 AM
3

Because all this only goes one way, right? Even so, I don't mind any of it. I remember reading about a study Dove did. They found out women would LOVE to see "normal" women in their ad-campaigns. So, Dove made one, and it tanked. To figure out why, they invited the women back again, but this time interviewed them 1 on 1, and they figured out that no, actually, the women wanted to look at beautiful women. We all want to look at idealized people in our media. Look at the covers of romantic novels.…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:35 AM
1

I think it is worth noting that, while I certainly don't think all men constantly think about sex and it's all they want, any woman that isn't morbidly obese or hideously disfigured probably never has any shortage of people (man, gay woman, horny and curious child, whatever) willing to have sex with them. As a result, they are less likely to engage in this type of behavior But pedophiles generally aren't content with grown men. You can't just turn off being a pedo and go fuck a grown up, in that…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:25 AM
1

I remember GWW talking about how kids don't really tell on female pedo's. There's much more mental confusion for the victim normally.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:23 AM
1

If that qualifies as a strawman what does about the entirety of feminist rhetoric equate to?
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:17 AM
9

I doubt he's even talking about girls he slighted. I saw a lot of the same shit. It's just them being lolrandum
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:13 AM
1

I really like it.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 09:49 AM
0

Feel fine to ignore that but you're being counter productive to the people who can be logical, reasonable, and tactful. You can't be all of those in the society we live in. Just look at the news. Are they able to talk about everything reasonably? Are they able to talk about everything frankly and logically? To be tactful you need to implement political correctness into what you're saying, and to do that, you need to avoid controversial topics and truths. I can't do that. I won't do that.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 05:16 AM
2

The last one seem to be working. It's irritating, but these government pdf's have a habit of relocating and just 404ing. You'll have to talk to your government to find out what the hell that is about.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 03:53 PM
0

I don't really care. If I can't advance the cause with facts and rationality and logic I'll consider whoever that is beyond the reach of simple rationality a lost cause. I don't care if I come off as an asshole. What I'm interested in is the truth. As far as I'm concerned everything else comes second. Being politically correct is an insult to myself. I consider it a breach in integrity and intellectual honesty.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 10:25 AM
1

I have no qualms about saying that Hitler was a great man. He was evil, but it takes a certain kind of man to do what he achieved. Hell, even my history teacher often raved on about how much of a genius he was. I love H.P Lovecraft even though he was a massive racist and xenophobe. People aren't black and white.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 09:12 AM
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:)
/r/MensRights05/12/13 08:09 AM
1

That's what being a devils advocate entails.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:23 AM
-2

I completely agree. If I can make a few people listen to what is being said instead of how something is being said, I've done my job.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 06:59 AM
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I.E, any criticism of women, or a woman affects every woman everywhere. If a woman is portrayed as sexy, it is failing every woman. Jesus. I wouldn't even need to watch two whole movies to make a similar video for men if that's the standard they're going for. Imagine it. Every disposable man dying, every guy getting called a creep or a neckbeard, every guy getting hit by his wife, every guy getting called an idiot etc.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 02:05 AM
1

This is a comment I saved a while ago, I'm sure you'll find the source if you google for it: Jim Macnamara, a researcher in Australia found that men are treated in a negative light in the media 69% of the time and only around 12% of the time were they seen in a positive light. This male bashing and negative portrayal of men makes women and some men suspicious of men and makes women feel all the more entitled since the men are such idiots or perverts. This can't have a good effect on marriage. Bu…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 02:02 AM
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Cont. A majority of human trafficking is male. Up to 76% according to some statistics, while only 17% is sex trafficking. This is very rarely mentioned, thanks to the bias of media. Also, this comment by /u/NeuroticIntrovert will give you some help in re-framing the feminist narrative into a more rational one: I think the most fundamental disagreement between feminists and MRAs tends to be on a definition of the word "power". Reframe "power" as "control over one's life" rather than "control over…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 01:53 AM
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Men are: 76% of homicide victims – DOJ 80% of Suicide victims – CDC Suicide took the lives of 30,622 people in 2001 (CDC 2004). Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men (Anderson and Smith 2003). 24,672 suicide deaths reported among men in 2001. http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm 24,672 / 30,622 = .8056952 In other words, over 80% of all suicide deaths in 2001 were male. also: “Suicide ranks 11th among causes of death in the US, with 30,622 completed suicides i…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 01:51 AM
5

I think you're underestimating how much of an effect abuse can have on a child.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 01:23 AM
6

Wow "We can do sooo much more than them. They have a god complex" Not surprised by how she goes on and implies that biological strength is a social construct that feminism can destroy.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 01:20 AM
0

I'm queue that list is a mile long.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:49 AM
1

I don't know why I forgot The Justicar. I love how he just tears feminists apart.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:18 PM
2

Well, even so, he's still a voice in the MRM.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:15 PM
2

I used to watch a bit of them, but I just stopped. This isn't all about left/right. Especially for an MRA, the right wouldn't just fix everything with their traditionalism and warmongering. Plus, democracy in of itself is a pretty shitty system, and the left/right dichotomy is even worse. I mean, it's true to an extent, but it's much better explained by women voting in their best interest without regard for long term economic and social consequences, because safety and resources are part of thei…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:14 PM
1

Yep, but there's still loads of content available on all the channels. Barbarossa probably has around 150 hours of content on his channel alone. And yeah, Molyneux is extremely recommended. He may not be the best for MRA stuff alone, but he has done more to change my thinking, and taught me more than any of the other channels.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 10:37 AM
12

This goes way beyond free speech, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:18 AM
3

Fixed
/r/MensRights03/12/13 06:41 AM
2

What?
/r/MensRights03/12/13 06:24 AM
3

I did my learning trough YouTube videos mostly, so I can't help you much with the books, but I can suggest a few channels that will give you insight: GirlWritesWhat Arguably the most popular MRA out there. A woman with a sharp wit that can easily condense everything to the point where it sounds obvious. If you haven't studied much of this stuff, you'll greatly enjoy her. Stardusk and Barbarossa Do you enjoy extremely intelligent discourse and brutal honesty? Then you will love these men. Althoug…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 06:21 AM
6

Her son had a minor surgical procedure, which allowed her greater insight into letting your child experience pain, which allowed her greater empathy.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:42 AM
2

I think that the rational thing when abortion is available, is to give the man a choice also. Responsibility without choice isn't too far from slavery. I don't think the man should be able to request an abortion legally, as in I think people have bodily autonomy. I think men should be able to have a period of about an equal time -a bit shorter so that everyone can make an informed descision- that the woman can get an abortion, thus everyone get's to have a choice. A woman chooses to stay pregnan…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:40 AM
11

Were the feminists pepper spraying the men? Man, fuck these cunts.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:19 AM
3

Wait, is her skill identifying white men? Because I didn't need to go to gender studies to figure that one out.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:15 AM
10

Here's one I made a while ago if anyone's interested. http://i.imgur.com/qNZlmFR.png
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:38 PM
4

The portrait MRAs like yourself paint of feminism is a caricature that has little basis in reality. It seems like you're simply unwilling to part with sexist privileges, like advantages in hiring or ability to treat women as subordinates there to serve. You're so naive and gullible. The articles here are real. What has happened actually has happened. Most of the people here tried to discuss these ideas with feminists first. I've tried to cooperate before. I ended up getting pushed out because I …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:00 PM
3

The positions that are accepted in feminism seem to be quite fluid. Once a feminist does something bad, he or she is no longer a feminist, but at the same time, if you believe in equality, you're supposedly a feminist. It's quite a conundrum. On the flip side Men's Rightsers who think women like to be raped is rather common. Haha, what? The fact that rape fantasies are common among women is well known, but I doubt you would be able to point out even a few people who believe that here. Just stop …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:13 AM
3

Ever heard of the Agent Orange files? I wish they were strawmen, I really do. One of these feminists even talked about how she hated working with boys, being a teacher and all.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 07:36 AM
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rationalize It seems you've already made up your mind, and then you don't even want to argue, I.E challenge your own opinions? Your main problem is the apex fallacy. Just because men have all the power, doesn't mean all men have power. Understand how that works? Furthermore, feminists don't "have all the power". They are the only voice -that is listened to- in the gender equality arena, with all that entails. It has all the influence would be a better way to put it. Believe me, if they didn't, t…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:41 AM
2

Seems like a great site. If you have a habit debating feminists, I suggest bookmarking it as everything seems to be well sourced.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:45 AM
4

White hot rage. Haha, fuck me.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 09:43 PM
2

Haha!
/r/MensRights01/12/13 08:43 PM
1

By eugenics of course. Or by infanticide.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:42 PM
2

“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say tha…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 06:45 PM
3

You've heard the feminists talking about reducing men to 10% of the population, right? Here's a fun game: Try to find all the ways men would still be privilieged after that.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 06:35 PM
7

That man is a feminist disguised as a men's expert.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:43 AM
5

Between us and TRP? We want to change the system, they want to play inside it. They are unapologetic in their search for the truth (hit and miss as it may be), people here tend to try and keep it at least somewhat politically correct. Between us and /r/seduction? Everything. It's like asking what's the difference between Feminism and empiricism.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:43 AM
2

I got goosebumps. It's overly simplistic maybe, but it's well made and the message is admirable. While I doubt their data: In Texas alone, nearly 13% of all Texans have been sexually assaulted, 1 in 5 women and 1 in 20 men. I like that they at least attempt to include both sides equally. All in all 9/10, would support.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:38 AM
1

Dude, we have the internet, we have journalists. Imagine if journalists got even freer reigns than now. If you cared about this at all you could use some of your already much larger income to donate to a group that would examine this shit. Pollution is pretty hard to cover up if you have people that are actively trying to snoop up what you're doing. All you need to test the greenness of a lot of products is a laboratory. Again, a free society is not the solution, it's an environment for the solu…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:24 AM
1

General Purpose Computer than most. Admittedly, it is somewhat terrifying. The what? Is this similar to the god of the recourse based economy people? Some decentralized autonomous computerized organization that allocates recourse? If that happens, we will find some solution. Morality and ethics have progressed. We're not like the French before the revolution. We wouldn't accept a perpetual underclass. It is an interesting thoughtt though. I will look into that.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:03 AM
1

We are constantly nearing more green technology. A libertarian society is probably at least a couple of decades off, so I don't think it will be a huge issue. If it is, social pressures will do some of it, while the insurance agencies may also help. If someone is destroying the earth, their products will be boycotted. Would you use a product if you knew it destroyed the earth? I wouldn't. Would you pay a bit more for a green product? I would.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:58 AM
1

Tragedy of the Commons Yep, that's part of the reason why I think private ownership is a good idea. That's part of the reason why I think libertarianism is better than democracy.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:48 AM
1

I've also been considering the Minimum Basic Income or Negative Income Tax more seriously lately. I'm totally for MBI. Just because I really wish I lived in a stateless society with a free market, doesn't mean I don't want, or can't accept improvements. What I see with a lot of liberal is an "the end justify the means" sort of attitude, but since the end is often utopia, or perfect equalism, it's not going to happen any time soon.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:44 AM
1

So your argument is that more people will die in a free society? Haha, you really are a computer programmer. It's either 0 or 1. Aren't ethics important to you? Isn't quality of life important? If you could do so, would you hook yourself up to a machine that would remove quality of life, but allow you to live definitively? Also, watching the video, I can't really say I've seen liberals that want to limit or remove government, not since the 19th century.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:18 AM
1

I would love for you to try and challenge my belief in libertarianism. More specifically I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist, or Voluntarist. I'll edit my response after finishing the video. Aw shit, he brought up the red pill. Feminists gonna be mad
/r/MensRights01/12/13 03:59 AM
3

It's completely insane.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 02:46 AM
3

Fixed: http://i.imgur.com/TulCpzo.jpg?2 Although: 80% of Suicide victims – CDC Suicide took the lives of 30,622 people in 2001 (CDC 2004). Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men (Anderson and Smith 2003). 24,672 suicide deaths reported among men in 2001. http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm 24,672 / 30,622 = .8056952 In other words, over 80% of all suicide deaths in 2001 were male. Does that add up to men being 3x as likely to take their own life? I'm shitty at…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 02:43 AM
3

Well, they took it a step further, but yes. Stalin especially had no hesitation in abusing the mental health field to silence his dissidents.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 02:37 AM
3

What the fuck. How does anyone side with feminism here?
/r/MensRights01/12/13 02:36 AM
14

Didn't the exact same thing happen during a period where fewer men were dying at the job, just in reverse? Or when men started doing worse in school? Or when they started teaching English using phonetics, because while everyone was doing worse, the girls where doing less worse?
/r/MensRights30/11/13 07:06 PM
1

I wish you guys would just do shows where you talk about this stuff instead of doing the whole radio thing. If It's not on-demand I'm not going to watch it, and what you're doing now feels much less accessible than Youtube.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 07:02 PM
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But again, you're confusing self-interest with conspiratory goals. I doubt most feminist even knows what a zionist is, or what cultural Marxism means. That's largely something attributed to them from the outside. What you're doing is no different from making it a left-right issue, and saying, "but if we just voted in the right, we could fix this shit". Yes, again, there is truth to the claim that the left is responsible for where we are today, but the right isn't much better about it.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 07:01 PM
1

I've tried that several times, because it intuitively makes more sense, but I've never managed to be comfortable with it. There's always this nagging cognitive dissonance if I do that in an RPG. Only when I'm done with the game and I'm replaying to make new builds and stuff can I comfortably play as a female, where I tend to make male strength builds and female dexterity builds.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 06:53 PM
5

Are you berating the MRM for not accepting sociopaths with open arms?
/r/MensRights30/11/13 06:50 PM
10

It's not some huge marxist zionist conspiracy. It's people being people. When something becomes successful, they'll want to join. When something becomes easy and accessible, they'll wan't to join. That's what I hate about people like you. You take something so common and reasonable, and turn it into this big pervasive conspiracy. The fucked up part is that you're right in a sense, but you just turn it into this fucked up conspiracy.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 06:48 PM
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Oh, I know. I have several female friends that game even more than me, they've never really made a bigger deal out of it.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 04:20 PM
9

It's not plagiarism until you have proven that it is.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 03:59 PM
5

I'm a strong advocate for "true" feminism There is no true feminism. If you say that every feminist is going to go "Oh, that's me then"
/r/MensRights30/11/13 03:56 PM
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Go over to /r/GirlGamers. It's like an army of Anita Sarkeesians. I'm pretty sure my blood pressure doubles if I stay for more than ten minutes.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 03:53 PM
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our idea about republican economic policy is just unsupportable. Not at all. Look at America during it's most successful years. Look at china now, look at every country that's been successful. Now look at Russia 50-70 years ago, look at China under Mao, look at America now.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 02:10 PM
7

These spoken word things all seem the same after you've watched like two of them.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 12:07 AM
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Yeah, it's not surprising honestly. You tend to end up at MRA if you use rationality, and it works the same with libertarianism.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:13 PM
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Yep. I'm pretty Laissez-faire economically and socially. As long as you're not hurting anyone, you can do whatever floats your boat. Economically all the evidence points toward free markets doing good, and being better than coercive states.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:02 PM
7

I still see republicans and conservatives being spoken of as they are some kind of defacto white, rich asshole racist misogynist.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:00 PM
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As an outsider looking in, and as someone who's largely non partisan (AnCap), they are not wrong. Not to say you can't be an MRA and a leftist, but you cannot deny that leftist policy and ideology has gotten us to where we are now. And this is true for everything from authoritarian surveillance and Orwellian tone and thought policing to implementation of help and affirmative for women, resulting in a heavily skewed system. Now, realize that I'm not saying the republicans are better, they may be …
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:58 PM
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Hah, I knew there would be lots of libertarians here!
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:53 PM
1

That's a common thread in places where serious discussion takes place. I remember seeing a video of Warren Farrel giving a presentation in the 90's, and they had the same problem. Not one feminist would discuss with him.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 08:18 PM
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Here's what you came for: I have two studies that I'd like to cite. The first is (I would argue) but for one minor flaw the best research ever done on on the subject, and the second, although well done is included mostly to back up the first. The CDC National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Study(NISVS) This is a huge (sample size 18,049) telephone survey covering domestic violence, stalking, and sexual violence. I haven't read the entire thing yet, but I did read the part Pros Definition o…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 02:41 PM
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Lolno. It would be like taking a shirt saying "I may be a man, but I'm not a rapist" to a date. Don't validate the idiots.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 02:59 AM
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That's just it. People become their beliefs. Best case scenario is that she treats you a bit worse, and becomes a bit more toxic. The worst case scenario is that she blames you for something patriarchal/rapey/misogynistic, and leaving you to deal with the consequences of that.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 06:23 PM
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You dodged a bullet.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 05:34 PM
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Because it's easy. Because we don't think too much, because we don't consider the other side, because we can't compare things in an equal light.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 05:33 PM
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I'm not sure he gets in the vicinity of the nail You hit the nail on the head right there. When you simply assert some things to be true, it's real easy to just come to conclusions that sound entirely reasonable if you don't think about them to long.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 08:49 PM
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It's one idiot. The rest of the comments could largely just as well have come from here.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:59 PM
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The trappings we put onto gender identity – the colors, the clothes, the assumed preferences – are all cultural, not natural Yeah. I'm not going to read beyond that. Come on. I know I'm pimping this documentary out a lot here, but watch this if you're interested. The TL;DR: It's a mixture of culture and biology, of nature and society. Who would have guessed. Edit: Added the link. Every time I just forget to add them.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:56 PM
2

Pretty much true. If juggling while riding a unicycle got women all hot and bothered, most guys would learn that in a heartbeat.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:55 PM
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This only works if you think non-sequitours are proof. He's not considering more than his own opinions and viewpoints and draws absolute proof and truth from that. He's not considering that feminism has actual, real world consequences outside of Tumblr, he's not considering that feminism isn't this angelic label that applies to everyone except when it doesn't because the person did something wrong and thus became a strawman. This guy doesn't seem too bad though, just uninformed and uncritical. E…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:48 PM
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Hey man, some people are more equal than others. Also, they really want to stimulate women don't they?
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:39 PM
1

Where do you draw the limit? I don't know every circumstance of the. What does that even mean? Every is pretty extensive.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 05:28 AM
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Huh, wouldn't have expected that from him. Sounds like a good teacher. Too bad he's cutting out material based on race though.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:24 PM
2

Wouldn't stopping "offensive questioning" whatever that mean lead to lower conviction rates? Or are they just implicitly asking for less presumption of innocence?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:22 PM
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Would you rather go to jail for unlawful recording or rape?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:19 PM
14

Kicked out is saying it mildly.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:17 PM
0

Do men get to take free leadership courses? Take your guess.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:49 PM
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Yep. Not that a lot of feminist understand basic economics or capitalism.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:22 AM
2

You could just ask your questions here.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:04 AM
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This is an ideologue. I would personally avoid this person. I've come to believe that people are their beliefs, the effects of which you clearly see here. Come on man, are you listening to this woman? Aren't alarm-bells of rationality chiming in your head when she talks? Do you not see the indoctrination in her?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:01 AM
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Do these people not understand that if this was real, that people would go to jail? It is illegal to discriminate based on sex in the workplace in Australia, yes?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:51 AM
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You don't have to have sex a lot to be a redpiller. For me it's about taking control of your life. To grow yourself to be a person that is happy with himself, to grow into a person that you're proud of, but at the same time remaining realistic. To be aware to the point where no-one can take advantage of you, or trap you.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:37 AM
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Do you feel rape/abuse/violence happens more to women than to men? What do you mean feel? This isn't a feels issue. It's an empirical issue. Even if men received half of the rape/abuse/violence that women do, the current DV system and the other aids we give to female victims don't reflect this.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:32 AM
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That right there always amuses me. "If you believe in equality you're a feminist!" And in the next breath: "That's not a real feminist"
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:28 AM
1

Is this a new writer? Nonetheless, I already love her, that intro was amazing.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:16 AM
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You should have mentioned that men are much more likely to suffer violence at night walking home. But the race argument is a really good one. Replace black with man and white with woman when you hear a feminist talk, and the picture becomes quite clear. Many of those who identify with feminism are not anti-men, but are simply pro-equality and may not realize that feminism has a dark side. Doesn't matter. Look at the effects of feminism you'll quickly see that. Again, to use your example: If I bu…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:14 AM
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Thanks for the really insightful comment. I completely agree, I've seen /r/TheRedPill do a lot of good for a lot of people. I've given up on trying to defend the subreddit though. They write to me like I'm trying to convince them of Nazism every time.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:04 AM
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Feminism is about being able to be yourself. If your true self is being half-naked, drunk and proud of it, by all means, do you, boo. But our true self is trying to be a respected professional, and sadly, it's an uphill battle. Be yourself, but only the yourself that is the one I and feminism approve of.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:59 AM
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Let's not forget governmental and media reach. It's political suicide in sweden to say you're not a feminist. They control a lot of media and academia, so that they can say this with a straight face is insane. The amount of rationalization and mental gymnastics these people go trough is mind-boggling.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:57 AM
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That sort of childhood is really, really damaging. Sorry you had to go trough that. I hope you've gone to therapy, or tried to learn some self-knowledge.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:56 AM
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It's insane how self righteous this feminist is. It's the classic fallacy of "this can't be true because I don't like the consequence of it being true" When the researcher talked about how they used a conventionally beautiful woman, the feminist blows that away by showing that what we consider now hasn't always been beautiful, as if that matters at all. Because women "slut shaming" each other might lead mean to use "slut shaming" terms, researching this becomes misogynistic, it feeds into slut s…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:52 AM
2

Thanks! Glad to see hours upon hours of research on this stuff has paid off a bit.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:41 AM
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Sure. Though, in Norway we have specific high-school paths. I went to a media centered path, so I doubt any of the people there are going to be engineers. The women still got flown into our capital for free leadership courses though.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:22 AM
1

Yeah, I don't know how these people function like that. They should be filled with cognitive dissonance. These are the people that advice our governments. Our language can be pretty cool sometimes, but I prefer English.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:58 AM
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You have no idea how angry that lady makes me. That last interview with her enrages me. She's basically questioning why we do science at all because it doesn't conform within her feminist narrative.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:02 AM
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I understand also. I'm so sick of people going on about these issues like there is no getting better, like therapy isn't a thing, like self knowledge and working towards bettering and fixing yourself aren't things. I know the effects, I sympathize with the effects, but I don't believe they are worse than death.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:26 PM
2

There are similar phenomenons in every trauma that results in psychological harm. Furthermore, you speak like healing isn't possible. We continually make progress with therapy and psychology. I had horrible anxiety. I couldn't trust my body at all. I worked at it continuously and got better. And even if you never got better at all. Even if you could never have sex, I would argue that life still has something to offer. If my did fell off tomorrow I wouldn't kill myself.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:24 PM
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Sorry, I usually include the link, I guess I forgot this time. Here it is, with subs and everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LRdW8xw70
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:18 PM
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You're missing the point. And I wouldn't exactly feel that more in control with bullets and explosions going off all around me than with a knife pointed at me. You could still fight a person with a knife, if you want to go that route.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:38 PM
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One will kill you, the other one will traumatize you. If you were thrown into a battlefield likely to give you PTSD and survivors guilt and depression and anxiety, would you lay down and die?
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:31 PM
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Oh boy, he wasn't kidding: Unfortunately, as long as articles like this are written, rape will keep happening. Victims will continue to be traumatized. Rape is not the result of isolated incidents with "bad" men, but the result of a societal allowance for sexual violence and violence against women that unfortunately we obviously are far from condemning. We are all responsible, especially everyone who writes articles like these and pretends that survivors are somehow to blame. I pray we find a wa…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:29 PM
6

The truth is secondary to appearing to be right and righteous.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:25 PM
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Why aren't they choosing hard sciences and engineering rather than social studies and education? Simply because they don't want to. This Norwegian documentary explored the subject. The number suggest very strongly that the more free a country is, the more people tend to slide comfortably back into their gender roles. This is very apparent here in Norway for example, but if you go to Kenya and ask the girls there, a much higher percentage would like to be engineers and shit.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:25 PM
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Amen. The feminists have done what groups like it always do, which it to give words entirely new connotations and meanings. What are we supposed to do when we see people we don't know? Look at the ground, at the sky and everywhere except on people we don't know the personality and educational history of? Eye-tracking study shows that both men and women look at women's bodies. "Both sexes fixed their gaze more on women's chests and waists and less on faces" Yet results are different when looking …
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:19 PM
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I'm so tired of the people who preach about how rape is worse than murder.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:09 PM
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There is no real feminism. Furthermore, feminism does hurt men. What do you think happens when there's a lack of help? Do you think someone might get hurt? Do you think the man that is getting beat up by his wife and will not be accepted in a womans shelter is helped by feminism? Do you think that lobbying against male shelters help men? Do you think advocating only for female human trafficking sex slaves helps men? Do you think the UN Women helps men when it excludes them from the same help the…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 11:06 PM
0

Te be fair, communism is a great concept, in the true meaning of the word.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 10:59 PM
1

Well, the prosecutor wanted six months, so I doubt she's going to get more time than that.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:36 PM
2

Is that what they meant? To me it sounded like seven months was a suggestion, something to work out from.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:34 PM
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Well, the police didn't really oppose her. If the video hadn't surfaced, he'd be in jail. That wasn't the police.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 04:22 AM
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It's just as vague in Norwegian. I'm guessing oral, or a fingerbang or something.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 03:09 AM
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This happened in Norway, so here's the story translated: A few days (the time frame is unclear) after the night at the hotel she went to the police and told them the guy had been violent, ripped her clothes off and raped her. Luckily for him there were no indications from the hotel video surveillance that indicated anything bad had happened and the medical examination could not provide any indications of violence toward her. What really proved her wrong was that parts of the incident was video r…
/r/MensRights23/11/13 07:37 PM
2

Well, the difference in picture sizes and aspect ratios make the entire thing seem disjointed, and the difference in styles, from comics to photographs make it seem amateurish. I think it does it's job if it can manage to hold the average persons interest for long enough. The style doesn't lead much credibility toward itself if that makes sense.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 05:58 PM
2

It's not exactly pretty, but I guess it does it's job. It's hopefully pervasive to newcomers.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 05:44 PM
4

Haven't the answers to this been readily available for years now?
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:19 PM
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Few men would openly contest feminism’s central contention that women should be on equal political, economic and social footing with men. They are on a higher footing both politically and economically. They control about 80% of consumer spending, and they represent a larger voting block. Socially? Well, who get's defended if someone offends you? Who have the social security nets? I'm not even going to read beyond that. Arguments based on false premises are false from the get-go.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:18 PM
0

I think the red pills imagine isn't going to change. Defend it, and you're treated as Hitler.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 02:01 AM
3

Sorry you had to go trough that.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 01:58 AM
1

While it does put things of into perspective, it's not entirely fair to juxtapose it like this. There will always be people who suffer more than you do, that doesn't mean your pain, however superficial and trite it may seem is insignificant.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:40 PM
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Top comment on that article: Weird how women's sexual harassment is more studied than the same unacceptable behavior for men. Yeah, I'm sure that's completely true. Edit: Ignore me, I misread the comment completely.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 03:09 PM
3

You have no idea how many people don't understand the notion of ethical consistency.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:54 PM
3

Thank you. I get sick of the anti-TRP circlejerk. It's just as bad as the whole "reddit hates women and blacks" trope that inevitably spawns on anything related to gender on the main subs.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 05:51 AM
1

No, I'm saying that they embody what the redpill should be. I'm 95% both of them are non-partisan. That's what I love about them. They cut trough the bullshit.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 11:20 PM
0

Honestly, I agree fully. It really depends what you want. If it's a one night stand it really doesn't matter what you say, you're never going to see the person again.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:01 PM
6

Again, why? Are women not acting in the way they think will result in what they want to happen? Do you not do this? If I want someone to come over for dinner, I'm going to try and manipulate them with entertainment, food and drink.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:42 PM
0

Barbarossa's channel Stardusk's channel I have watched hour upon hours of their videos. This is what the redpill is. Brutal truths and logic based on reality and empiricism.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:31 PM
6

Thanks for that. It's funny. I've acquired my views separately, and yet I seem to fit into this AnCap/libertarian, redpill/MRA mold that have become so common around here.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:25 PM
8

How so? You're not enforcing anything. You're following certain behaviors because you know what the responses are going to be. You're not forcing anyone to do anything.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:19 PM
4

I do support a lot of it, and I dislike a lot of it. Ultimately I think the place has a positive effect on the life of it's users, and it fosters a lot of good discussion. But no, most MRA's don't support them. I can understand why, although I think people's reaction to the place is a bit hyperbolic.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 06:28 PM
19

Well, that layout was actually hard to grasp.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 06:43 AM
1

Fair points
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:09 AM
2

As long as they have tits and womanly shapes, they will have the same effect in the men. As long as they menstruate, they will have the same difficulties. I understand that my original statement sounds like something a model would say in a beauty pageant. What I was trying to imply is that the current system is largely the problem. This is a difficult issue, and I'm not sure what the right combination of equality and functionality is.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:57 AM
0

Yep. I'm a rare breed though, I doubt there are many Norwegian MRA AnCaps.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:54 AM
8

Oh! That's pretty obvious, sorry about that.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:53 AM
9

If you believe in everything from and in between patriarchy theory and rape culture, that implies ignorance of rationality at the very least.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:52 AM
0

Haha, what makes you say women are better at excel of all things? Men are better at math statistically. Well, they have larger populations than women on both sides of the bellcurve, but are statistically more likely to be better, although women are more consistently okay at it. Also, hygiene? Really? And isn't large fingers an advantage? It allows you to reach more of the keyboard at the same time. Smaller fingers aren't really that much quicker either. I'm not denying that women are better at s…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:47 AM
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What they are saying is in their mind, justified by feminist tenets.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:38 AM
8

Implying that the majority of feminists are not ignorant?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:38 AM
13

Here's a great rant by Girlwriteswhat on this. I wish I had a transcript of this. It's the perfect comeback to NAFALT.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:36 AM
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How do we get women to realize that while they might not have personal access to healthcare, birth control, and the like that plenty of other women do, so they shouldn't worry about their personal problems? It might be because I'm a bit drunk, but what are you saying here? I've read over it several times and it doesn't make any sense.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:33 AM
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It's not that there aren't any good feminists, it's that if you're a feminist you're supporting the majority, which do the about the opposite of this. Look at what institutionalized feminism does. Do they help men? Nope. Look at all of the evidence, all of the data, and you'll see that this is an anomaly. It's not representative of feminism, it's representative of that one woman.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:25 AM
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Please, provide examples. I'm not saying women aren't better at anything, but any examples slip my mind.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:09 AM
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Well, no. I'm not a fan of utilitarianism at all. I believe in no wars, I believe in less coercion and theft and murder. I doubt the US is going to stop playing world police anytime soon though, so if we're going to have opinions we're going to have to carve them out of the current paradigm, at least in relation to this. Gender separated units could work?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:08 AM
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It's a nuanced issue.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:47 PM
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I thought they were called brutes no matter if women are in the military? Also, it's no secret that men protect women more than they protect men. It's silly, sure, but it makes sense biologically.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:35 PM
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How is it sexist?
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:05 PM
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I don't know honestly. I think war in of itself is pretty fucked up, and extremely rarely legitimate. If my political philosophy was the norm, there wouldnt be war. Even so, that doesn't remove reality.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:05 PM
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I agree, but adding women into the mix on the frontlines may result in even more deaths, both male and female.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:03 PM
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More suited? Doubt it. Equally suited? Sure.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 09:06 PM
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So they did it voluntarily, in a free market way. You're also just responding to small bits of what I'm saying. What's your problem with a free market?
/r/MensRights19/11/13 05:46 PM
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2013/05/factory-safety?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/battlebrands Due to the governments failure to enforce building codes in Bangladesh, 31 companies have voluntarily signed an agreement to improve working conditions and factory safety. There was a severe public backlash to the factory collapse in Dhaka and this pushed the companies involved to take action. I don't know where you are from, but I'm fairly certain that blaming the free market is ignorant on your part…
/r/MensRights19/11/13 05:21 PM
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Thank you so much!
/r/MensRights19/11/13 04:39 PM
1

So about the exact same thing that's happened in the US with tornado safety? In the absence of gov't, actual market supported insurance companies would likely have a role in determining what is or isn't safe and pricing the risk accordingly. I could easily envision a safety rating that companies would display much like the sanitation grades today. The current regulatory environment is insane, in just the last couple years the cost of building a house has increased by at least kr48,936.89 ($8000,…
/r/MensRights19/11/13 04:38 PM
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I've seen him around yeah. I would probably have him much higher, but I'm so bad at upvoting people.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 03:45 PM
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They did this without the government. Well, actually, they did this in spite of the government. No government interference + market = free market.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 03:27 PM
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Yep, this gives a nice little peak into a society without a government. When you talk about capitalism people always assume you're an coldhearted greedy asshole, but that's never been true, and never will be true.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 03:26 PM
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I can't comprehend how canadians can support feminists, or even believe that it's out for equality when people had to do this themselves without any feminist or governmental support. I think this also gives us a peek into how society wouldn't implode without a government. When I talk about voluntarism people just assume that there will be no charity, no activism and no good people to do stuff like this. By the way, I have you up to +30 on my res now.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 03:24 PM
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The problem is that when you start ignoring the nature part, you're going to A. End up with wrong "solutions" B. Play into the feminist narrative. This is exactly what they are doing, and it's not helping. When you ignore all of fucking biology it's so much easier to write up theories like rape culture and to warp everything into your shade of delusional. Change happened when it could happen. Change happened when society was safe and stable and plentiful enough so that women could live on their …
/r/MensRights19/11/13 12:28 PM
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Haha, I hate those words where one H someone in there changes the whole meaning of the word. Then again, bønner means either farmer, or beans depending on your inflection in norwegian.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 11:50 AM
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And because they have internalized our culture which values the well-being of women (mothers) very high. This is mostly biological. It's a survival instinct of sorts. Women are vulnerable during pregnancy, so they need someone to protected them. It's the same reason they vote for free stuff generally. Ask yourself why they have "internalized" it. Why do you think about every culture protects women?
/r/MensRights19/11/13 11:48 AM
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The study documents 28 cases which, "with the exception of one young man of limited mental capacity who pleaded guilty," consist of individuals who were convicted by juries and, then, later exonerated by DNA tests. At the time of release, they had each served an average of 7 years in prison. But it's worth it because doing anything else will have a chilling effect on reporting of legitimate rape, right? Several years ago, I tried to track down the origin of this much-cited stat. The first instan…
/r/MensRights19/11/13 02:15 AM
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The silence of men is damning. The silence of men is shameful. We - and I must say we because I do not seek to paint rapists as aberrant monsters lurking under bridges or in rat-infested lane ways - we must bear the burden of this issue. We must involve ourselves and acknowledge the hard truths about rape and the hard truths about masculinity. How does this stack up against our view of Australian men, of ourselves, when we realise that our section of the population is singlehandedly responsible …
/r/MensRights19/11/13 02:08 AM
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It's a humanitarian issue.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 02:02 AM
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I doubt it will happen. If it does, it will probably be incidental or a secondary footnote in their agenda. Circumcision should be taken care of by humanists and moralists, and rationalists - in other words: decent people. Feminists have a skewed worldview, they don't see circumcision as anything remotely similar to FGM, and the few that do, don't see it as something anywhere as serious.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 01:59 AM
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Really? Huh, wonder if that's going to affect the governmental budgeting towards feminist groups. I doubt that men have the same support in cases of DV as women have in Sweden, when they should have equal support or a bit more according to this.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 12:28 AM
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"According to the Center for Sex Offender Management, a Department of Justice project, in 1994, less than 1% of incarcerated rape and sexual assault offenders were females, or fewer than 800. By 2006, however, the FBI reported that females accounted for nearly 10% of sex crimes. And studies indicate that women commit approximately 20% of sex offenses against children." This isn't accurate is it?
/r/MensRights18/11/13 09:50 PM
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If taxes were used for things we wanted, we wouldn't need tax.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 06:49 PM
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I know it's kind of corny to bring up by now, but it almost reminds me of the ministries from 1984: Ministry of Truth Ministry of Peace Ministry of Love Ministry of Plenty
/r/MensRights18/11/13 05:26 AM
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I guess. Honestly, it didn't take long for me to start disliking democracy entirely after looking into it. After I started applying every principle universally, meaning that no matter who commits an action, the same rules, ethics and morals apply, it became indefensible to me. It's great on the surface, just like utilitarianism is great on the surface, but when you think about it a bit, it's pretty shite.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 04:34 AM
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Yeah. I'm no huge fan of the right either, I really hate the wanting of almost authoritarian control with everything that entails, from thought policing to bigger government that the left has.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 04:10 AM
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It's similar to how the US is fighting terrorism in times where American toddlers kill more Americans than the terrorists. It's a which hunt that justifies your existence and the extension of your control to authoritarian levels.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 03:25 AM
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Full documentary can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3cHsHnUPM It's pretty frightening stuff.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 01:21 AM
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Good luck getting the Swedes as a whole to recognize that.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 01:04 AM
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Well, you certainty could have handled that better. It just comes of as a quarrel between two petulants.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 01:03 AM
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Personally I think voluntarism, I.E Anarcho-Capitalism is the "best" political stance for an MTGOW. Well, I think it's the best political stance for anyone who values ethics and rationality, but that's besides the point. The essay is spot on though. I'm not too hopeful for any significant change anytime soon, so I think the best bet for everyone is to just learn as much as you can. Examine your beliefs, challenge yourself, explore yourself, read and watch videos that educate you and teach along …
/r/MensRights18/11/13 01:01 AM
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What I mean by the first part is that needs rarely influence your beliefs, and then your actions. Your being a leftist/socialist/feminist/MRA/Anarcho-Capitalist etc. isn't going to be hugely affected by your hunger, job etc. What I meant by the second part is that your beliefs often dictate what you want. I for example, dislike feminism, so I want it gone, therefore I engage in debate with people, and do what I can to help the MRM. A leftist may want to tax the rich, and work towards that, while…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:58 PM
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Needs are mostly taken care of if you live in a first world country. And desires are also fueled by beliefs.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:52 PM
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I agree, but what do you think fuels action?
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:08 PM
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People are largely the sum of their beliefs though. A feminist is a feminist is the ideology of feminism. I don't hate them myself, though I wish I could make them stop being feminists.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 03:41 PM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 10:28 PM
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Point out double standards if you will, but please don't get your panties in a twist over jokes. Either every joke is okay, or none are, arbitrary limits hold no authority and will always be just that; arbitrary. Yes, it's a shitty joke, but so what? Personally I would have found it as funny -in other words, not very - if the sexes were switched. I hate that peoples response to double standards is to just sink to the level of the other side. We shouldn't just equal their tone policing and aim fo…
/r/MensRights16/11/13 08:56 PM
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Probably for the same reason that we're banned from /r/bestof. They probably think we're misogynists. They probably think that not feminist = against womens rights.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 08:49 PM
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It's just logic being applied selectively as I see it. Otherwise known as a ...
/r/MensRights16/11/13 07:48 PM
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Ethically I think it's absolutely an apples to apple comparison.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 07:09 PM
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No matter if you agree with it or not, you should be able to see the double standard, and double standards are never okay.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:24 PM
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The wage gap with it's current connotations doesn't exist. There's a wage gap, yes, but if you say that people are going to have the wrong idea. For anyone curious, I recommend. Warren Farrell amazing demonstration of why the "wage gap" exists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb_6v-JQ13Q
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:14 PM
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I'm from Norway, so I'm not circumcised, I do not know anyone that has been circumcised. I think it's disgusting to circumcise your baby. It's not your choice, it's the boys own choice to make when he grows older. I don't really see an upside to being circumcised, but I see a lot of downsides. I've heard of many, many men who resent having been mutilated at birth, I've read of the numbers of circumcisions gone wrong, of the loss of sensitivity, of the ugly scars and thoughts of what could have b…
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:12 PM
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Ugh, there's a bunch of people I hope I'll never meet. It's depressing how many of them are so misinformed.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 11:46 AM
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They're no different from most feminists at all judging by their propaganda.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 11:40 AM
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That really looks like a man holding her by the throat.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 11:37 AM
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I'm not completely sure what you're trying to say, but our political system is based around force and coercion. Just telling someone something is wrong isn't going to work.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 05:45 PM
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It's not a secret that women vote for free shit. In about every country women are more left leaning than men if you check voting trends. They also control about 80% of consumer spending. Stefan Molyneux just made a great video about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MejkH61o_U Basically, it's female nature. Can't really blame them for it really. They're acting in their own self interest, they just don't understand the consequence of it generally, or don't mind bigger government and less owne…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 05:41 PM
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Neat
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:58 AM
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You should think he had learned to stay away from ideology by now.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:41 AM
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The thread is still up. There's nothing surprising in the comments either. "DAE think that male is entitled jerk with persecution complex?" And "Uh such rape culture"
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:26 PM
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It's not so much that she deserves punishment, but rather the double standard of punishing men so much harder and harsher. The whole victim/perpetrator dichotomy thats so prevalent.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:15 PM
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You should really try to do everything you can. Something like that can really fuck with your childs development and perspectives.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 05:43 PM
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No problem, Stefan Molyneux is amazing. I've probably spent over 60 hours listening to that dude.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 12:00 AM
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I think sentencing disparities would demonstrate what you're going for much more clearly, because then you can pull race into it also. If your teacher is left-leaning, showing them the disparity between black-whites, and then gender, will have a much more profound effect intellectually than anything else. Especially with how institutional it is also. Watch this video The Truth About Violence, and you'll be set with sources and good material.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 11:08 PM
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Yeah, after I've been learning about some of the things going on in everything from journalism to higher education and academia and how politics interpolates with it all I'm having a hard time trusting anything.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 11:03 PM
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That's kind of my point. Their assertion is already demonstrably false from the get-go.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 06:19 PM
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You have already taken their logic to far. If you examine what they're saying and believe it to be true, any rational person would then first try to stop violence in videogames. But when logic remains selective, and you don't extrapolate what you're saying beyond feminist issues, that never becomes a problem of course.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:05 PM
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That's what's nice about this subreddit. It's one of the few places civil discussion is possible. I've been reading and learning a shitton about moral philosophies, politics, society and so on in the last six months. It's nice to be able to actually try and put my newfound knowledge to the test.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:00 PM
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However, I think we'd have fewer women being irresponsible about birth control if they knew they could very well be on their own with no recourse if they got pregnant. Sure, they could get welfare, but that's a pretty poor life. The point is that everyone gets a choice. It does promote responsibility.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:11 PM
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I can see it now: "34 people dead in suicide bombing - Tragically four men and three children were among the deceased." Edit: I'm actually installing this shit. Will report results! Also, I wrote men instead of women. Come on brain, do you job. Edit 2: Haha, fuck me, that's the extension. Never mind.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:53 PM
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Well, dove is just doing what makes it money. It's true that it feeds into the whole victim/perpetrator complex that a lot of women have, and about every feminist believes to be reality. That being said, the dove campaigns, while emotionally manipulative, aren't really the problem. The problem is the skewed narrative, the societal victim complex. I think the sexualization and objectification debate has it's place, but it's been beaten to death and become an exaggerated societal meme.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:51 PM
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I know right?! What about the ppl in india, they don't even have abortions! Litaraly antichrist.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 03:05 PM
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Your problem, my friend, is that you think with rationality. That's not going to get you very far.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 03:03 PM
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It's not that they want to give a balanced worldview as much as they want to replace one manipulation with another.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:46 PM
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That's sort of my point. It's a double standard. It's not necessarily wrong, but I've never seen the reverse. I've never seen anyone go "maybe she liked it, maybe she wanted it" without getting proverbially fucked up the ass.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:44 PM
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That dude was mainly talking about American libertarianism. Still, you cannot make me like or respect utilitarianism. It will inevitably lead to situations where people get fucked over. We cannot insure the government doesn't have a right because the government has a monopoly on violence. My problem with that whole consequentialist thing isn't so much adherence to it, it's' what happens when you decide you have your own preferences and your own individuality, and what happens if the government d…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:43 PM
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The whole point of libertarianism and AnCap for me -well, not the whole point- is that I don't know what is best for people. I don't know if pot is inherently good or bad, and I don't think it's moral to kidnap people and put them in jail for using it. I believe universal moral principles, meaning that I keep the state to the same moral standards as I keep me and you to. This means that extortion is immoral etc. I believe in a free economy and a free society. Now, I could argue that this is also…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:05 AM
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I think that sort of logic is cheating a bit. If you frame it like that, utilitarianism is going to be the best moral philosophy every time. Personally I value individual freedom higher than what the state thinks will be the best for everyone. Would you be in favor of putting people in prison for smoking and drinking like we do for most every other drug? It would objectively benefit us, right?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 02:52 AM
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But a financial abortion, legal paternal surrender, opting out or whatever you want to call it has nothing to do with the body of the woman. If she can't take care of the child, she wont have the child. The period where the man could opt out would probably be a bit shorter than the period where the woman could get an abortion, so everyone could make an informed decision.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 02:47 AM
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I don't agree. I don't believe individualism is utilitarian. You've probably heard of this example before, but it's a great example of the moral failures of utilitarianism. "A transplant surgeon has five patients, each in need of a different organ, each of whom will die without that organ. Unfortunately, there are no organs available to perform any of these five transplant operations. A healthy young traveler, just passing through the city the doctor works in, comes in for a routine checkup. In …
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:33 AM
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Yeah, our society and political landscape is shaped out of utilitarianism, which is great if you're the fucking Borg. That's something I strongly dislike about collectivist thought. Fuck you if you want personal freedom, fuck you for wanting to be an individual. Pay up, work, benefit society.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:02 AM
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Yeah, it's terrible. Not surprising really, but still horrible.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:09 AM
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Allowing women full agency, and responsibility for that agency is seen as something we cannot do. We still very much feel the need to protect women from responsibility, not just sexual responsibility mind you. Also, women choose to stay pregnant. They have exists along every stop, while men have none. Choice comes with responsibility, when you remove the choice you get slavery.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:08 AM
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That's good, I've heard some stories of men just being ridiculed when calling hotlines. It's sad really.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 11:03 PM
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You should send him a scented letter.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 10:58 PM
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But if he washes after getting out of the pool, he would have been in contact with the bacteria for an equal amount of time, right?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:13 PM
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Haha, what? Foreskin isn't something that closes and traps shit in there. And even if it was, you're exposing your raw dick to the same shit. I'm really not seeing the dots connect here.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:06 PM
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I love his videos on gender. I'm not much of a fan of the atheism circlejerk, but otherwise he's pretty cool.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:04 PM
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Well, then I don't think the problem was his foreskin, but rather an infection.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:56 PM
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This is a great video. I hope it will gain at least some traction here.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:54 PM
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To these people this isn't as much an idea as it is a threat. It's funny, I'm pretty sure most of the people who are against men opting out are also for welfare, but once you start talking about legal paternal surrender they turn right into the conservatives they hate so much.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:54 PM
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I've discussed this a lot, and there is a huge amount of resistance towards it. People are generally unable to see women and men in the same light. When you boil the logic down, people generally think that if you're a man, and you have sex, you have already chosen to have a baby.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:50 PM
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My best friend (uncircumcised) was a swimmer on our high school team and was in public pools for up to 8 hours a day with no way to clean during this What? Did you not have showers at the facility? Did he now have a shower at his house? My dick isn't falling off because I take showers. I'm pretty sure most swimmers do.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:45 PM
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Well, I would argue that if this happened to a woman, the outcry would be much larger. I'm not sure this is the best example of whatever you'd call people who believe men cannot be raped.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 05:22 PM
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Yep, it's a nice to see them losing their grip, but I have a feeling they're just going to go further and further to keep their power.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 02:21 PM
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It's a great list, but damn is it ugly. Doesn't tumblr have some preset CSS styles or something? I was glad to find something from Norway there: Norway shuts down all of her 56M NOK public funding of Female Studies. Aftenposten.no reported that the Council, after 17 years of commitment to gender studies, has decided not to continue with a special program for Research. Instead, the Research Council that a gender perspective should be included in research projects in various fields. My country has…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 02:19 PM
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What? By definition both are genital mutilation. Just because you stop saying that and say circumcision instead doesn't make it better. And all that research who say circumcision is better is bad at best.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 12:40 PM
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Sure. What I'm saying though, is that as an awareness campaign, it's doing a bad job. It doesn't even mention health, or cancer or anything related to the actual cause.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 10:08 PM
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Can you sum it up, I've been reading a bit about moral philosophy lately and I'm interested.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 10:01 PM
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I completely misunderstood you, sorry about that. Well, I'm not condoning her actions at all. I might have come off as a bit overly tolerating of it, and I'm having a hard time to rationalize it, so I'm probably in the wrong here, I apologize.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:53 PM
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You said: That doesn't work when you support a system of systematic abuse. In the context of the conversation it seemed like you were trying to say that libertarianism was supportive of systematic abuse. Saying something is systematic abuse is a descriptor. For your statement to have any weight or truth to it, you need to identify what you're describing. Does that make sense to you? Did you refer to something else? If so I apologize.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:35 PM
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Well, not really, that was just me being snarky. I did learn about that case from what I thought was a trustworthy source, but apparently not.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:16 PM
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No, no, you can't just say something and make it an argument. What you just did is a description, it doesn't actually say anything.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:11 PM
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I'm not rich at all. Hell, I'm the kind of person who would probably benefit from a socialist society. Oh, and I just got that you're talking about the political right. Yeah, I'm not right-wing. I'm somewhat right of center in Norway if I had to pinpoint my position, but that's pretty left in the US. Even so, I consider myself no-partisan, even though most of my views socially in everything but feminism is pretty far left.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:03 PM
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Oh, sorry, didn't know that. That's what I get for not researching things properly.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 07:59 PM
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What is a system of systemic abuse? Libertarianism? How so?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 07:57 PM
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You pay 3 times as much as Canada for health procedures. I'm Norwegian, I pay nothing. You're doing the same thing as before, you're assuming that a libertarian or anarcho capitalist society would look like what we have now without a state. The situation in America has arisen partly out of the worst elements of both socialism and capitalism. The healthcare and education system in America is ridiculously over-inflated. 40% of public schoolteachers in Georgia (I might have the state name wrong her…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 07:56 PM
1

Well, yeah, that's a fair assessment. That conclusion would be conjecture at best.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 07:14 PM
1

That's understandable.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 06:17 PM
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admired I never said I admired her. Of course I understand why she does it. I'm not an idiot. I explicitly stated that she was a cunt, explicit statement trumps implicit interpretation every time.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:54 PM
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That word works a bit better, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:51 PM
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This is a pretty shitty awareness campaign. I had no idea that this was for cancer last year, and if I didn't know by now, this wouldn't have told me. I just thought it was a beard appreciation month, or a challenge that got viral.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:50 PM
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Following that logic it's your fault if I rape you. Following that logic it's my fault if my house is broken into, or my brakes fail. Consider the implications of what you're saying. For me to avoid the problems you're talking about I'd have to become celibate, I would have to avoid all women lest I meet a rapist. We cannot see the future, a good decision now can turn sour later. There is no "right" way. There are no obvious good decisions. Every action involves risk. I do not lament your for wa…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:46 PM
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I'm considering moving from Norway, and to me at least, it makes perfect sense that if they're going to move, why not go far? Why not travel to the US or Canada? At least that's the situation I'm in.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:39 PM
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Well, no. I'm not saying that what she does is okay, I'm saying that I don't really hate her for it. I'm not defending her. I'm not saying what she's doing is anywhere near moral.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:16 PM
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Thanks, I'm not too familiar with Canadian geography.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 05:01 PM
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Good for all That's simply not true. Democracy is basically political utilitarianism. It doesn't take much thought to figure out that that isn't optimal at all. You do not know what's good for me. The state is not my mother. The state shouldn't be allowed to do all the atrocious shit it does. Yet it does, because of people like you. That's the point of a free society. I don't know what's best for you. I shouldn't be able to decide or even vote on if gays should be able to get married, if abortio…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:58 PM
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Yeah, just look up Earl Silverman. That shit made me so depressed.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:46 PM
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This is a product of what I perceive to be nearly the opposite of libertarianism. I don't think we need to point guns at each other to make society work, in fact, I think a society where we held each other to the same moral principles would be much better than what we have now.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:07 PM
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But that's perfectly legal and non-exploitative. And what this woman does is perfectly legal. I don't really see tax avoidance as bad or corrupt. Of course people are going to try and keep their money, it's what people do. I'm not quite sure I would call tax non-exploitative either. Personally I'm not too fond of this utilitarianism our current political landscape is carved out of. Anyways, I'm getting off topic. She's taking advantage of men. Well, she's entering into a loosely implicit agreeme…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:52 PM
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Yep. Plus, I just really hate intellectual disingenuousness.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:15 PM
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They pop up here once in a while. The male host once has said that male boys getting statutory raped isn't really a problem, that he would have loved it, that they probably liked it etc. It's a huge double standard. He has also said that men can't be raped, that he didn't believe it could happen They have also completely misrepresented libertarianism to undermine it.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:36 PM
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"If you look at fatalities in in the workplace, domestic violence is the number one cause of death in the workplace. 94% of death in the workplace is female? " Haha, what? It's funny that she also says that it's a socioeconomic problem when it's the men suffering, but at the opposite end it's totally a problem of gender. Also, I totally love how that chick on the left totally reframes Warrens arguments to be in support of feminist ideology. That every negative trait is masculine, and what we nee…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:25 PM
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I'm a bit jealous of that beard.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:15 PM
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"Sorry, this is not aimed to the people that are strong or females." So this is aimed at weak men? I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:13 PM
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I really dislike TYT. They're so knee deep in their ideology. They have no hesitation in using fallacious arguments and ignorance to further their agenda. Here's an actual firewoman in action. That's pretty scary, huh?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:08 PM
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I don't hate people because they do one assholish thing. It's not really corrupt at all though. I'm against extortion, doesn't mean I don't pay tax. Right? Just because I'm anti-state doesn't mean that I'll bleed to death instead of getting free-health care. I still don't see a fallacy, and "You're Dumb" isn't an argumetn.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:04 PM
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Nope to what? I understand that my opinion on this is controversial, but I don't get where it's incorrect of fallacious.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 10:59 AM
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Oh, I know. It sounds a bit tinfoil-hatty, but the government knows what it's doing. Had it actually been trying to solve the problem the situation would be different. They are just creating dependency, which is a good tactic of course, it's just that it's fucking over the country.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 09:37 AM
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My favorite example of how feminism hurts everyone is this example: So, feminists think it's just too gosh darn hard to convict rapists, right? So they think, huh, it would be much easier if rape was a strict liability offence. Strict Liability means that intent doesn't matter at all. Therefore the fact that you didn't think having sex was rape, it is if the woman thinks it is. Edit: I'm being wildly inaccurate here, see below for the actual story. Well, a 15 year old dude climbed into the windo…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 09:25 AM
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I find it insane that you guys are throwing so much money onto the poor, and it's doing nothing. It's like your government isn't actually trying to fix the problem at all.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:35 AM
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I can't really hate on her for this. Sure, she's a cunt, but she games the system, and I can respect that. Maybe the men she's going out with will learn not to waste money on a woman before you actually know each other a bit. Maybe they'll stop playing this game of "let's pretend this isn't prostitution."
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:33 AM
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Haha, to me it just looks like they're giving up.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:31 AM
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In Norway I actually think we're actually getting pretty close to forcing women also to register. Well, they have to register already next year, but they don't actually have to serve, but that may be a reality in four years. The vote for having them register was actually unanimous from all the parties left to right. Of course, We live in Norway, so if you don't actually want to join the military, you're probably not going to. I just crossed of a thing that said I didn't want to, and I heard noth…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:27 AM
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It's pretty much this. It's the same with patriarchy theory. There's a reason why it's so all-encompassing. It doesn't take much at all to make a social theory fall in onto itself if you point out even a few inconsistencies or lapses in logic and rationality, or nonfactual facts. So what do you do? You practice your mental gymnastics of course! If reality remains fluid you can be correct all the time.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:57 PM
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Then move past it and find a way to make things work better That's exactly what we are doing. Feminism is a brick wall in the way of reaching a lot of our goals. It doesn't matter what normal feminists do, it matters what the feminists in the government and other positions of power do, and that's why we need to destroy it. Eglatarians wouldn't do what feminist do.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:32 PM
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I made an actual argument too you know. But you're right, I'll stop being an asshole. The way I see it is that if a woman has access to abortion, she chooses to stay pregnant. This is important, because the man has no such choice. Either both people take responsibility for having sex, or neither does. Meaning, that if abortion is accessible, then legal paternal surrender should also be. that no party should have a get out of jail card on this. Okay, what is the implication of this? Should we mak…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:00 PM
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Oh fuck off, if that was true, abortion wouldn't be legal, women leaving your child off at safe havens wouldn't be an option, contraceptives wouldn't be needed. The fact is that we give woman steps out at every direction, while we force men into fatherhood at the first stop. That is an argument consequence what you just did. "If you didn't want to get mugged you shouldn't have been outside of your house at night." "You knew that smoking was unhealthy, you're not getting any help from this hospit…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 05:16 PM
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They could try.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 05:09 PM
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Oh, believe me, I do seek out every opinion. Yes, there is a lot of anti-feminism here. I welcome that, I think we need that to move on. We cannot exist alongside feminism while it subscribes to patriarchy theory and rape culture theory. I have posted things that go against the hivemind many times, and I've never really felt that people were downvoting so they could continue to exist in an echo-chamber. Hell, some of my posts have had an equal up/downvote ratio, that's pretty rare. I see trends …
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:18 PM
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My saying “American women” is of course a wild generalization subject to degrees, exceptions, and qualifications. A more sober statement would be something like this: There are enough American women overtly hostile to men, enough snarling feminists teaching semiliterate misandry in academic departs of sexism (Women’s Studies), enough little boys being drugged at female recommendation, enough repression of normal behavior of small boys by female teachers, enough bias against men in divorce courts…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:03 PM
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Are you maybe confusing harsh truths with misogyny? Are you maybe conflating feminism and women? I see very, very little hate here, but that's maybe because I've done enough research and looked at enough data for me to not look at it like hate, because it is very rarely hate.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 02:59 PM
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I can't even begin to imagine how society would look if we actually cared about facts and empiricism.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 02:53 PM
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Disappointing that more people aren't watching this here.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 02:25 PM
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Most feminists want to use to government as a tool. Without the government they have nothing.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 10:10 PM
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Oh?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:01 PM
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Yes, and that's why you break down their own logic to show them how wrong their are. Show me one completely reasonable SJW and I'll agree with what you're saying.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:27 PM
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And leave your friends and family behind instead of trying to change what's wrong? And if you're anti-state, where could you even go? I don't see myself as having blame in issues of which I did not choose. think if it like a victim of domestic abuse. At some point, you become responsible for putting yourself in that position, but what if your only choice is another abuser? What if you had to leave your children behind with the abuser? Do you just leave and hope that the next one doesn't hit as h…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:03 PM
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No, use reason, that is not a reasonable argument. Just say what you said here: We live in a melting pot of culture and diversity, of course some are going to share or take from each other. Of course, they're not going to listen, but they won't listen to anything but an echo.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:29 PM
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I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this. I often feel the need to at least try and debate these people. But most people won't even try and listen to reason. It's like they're immune to it, which is really, really destructive on a large basis. If they don't like melting pots, they should move Come on man, you're better than that. I hear this every time I argue that tax is theft, or when I argue against government coercion. The "so move" argument is idiotic. "If you don't like racism, move" is…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:18 PM
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Let's see how long it takes them to give points to movies where the villain isn't male, where the woman sacrifices herself for the man, where the canon fodder isn't exclusively male.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 04:46 PM
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I know. The horror
/r/MensRights06/11/13 04:20 PM
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Oh sure it does, it's just that some people are more equal than others. By the way, how the hell was your username not taken? I'm almost jealous.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:35 PM
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Sexism doesn't go both ways silly.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:26 PM
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"Hey, talk to you black kid about stealing, according to our study, black people steal more"
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:19 PM
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This is a trend on feminism friendly subs. I'm banned from /r/AskFeminists, which also banned me from /r/feminism automatically. I was recently banned from /r/AskWomen for talking to someone about the legal implications of grey areas in some rape cases. The justification the mods gave me was that this was not appropriate, as someone somewhere else in the thread has said that she had been raped. It wasn't even in the same comment chain. Political subs like /r/communism and /r/Anarchism completely…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:17 PM
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People aren't accustomed to reason. Universality is a foreign concept. Logic remains fluid. I don't really know what to do about that. Learning reason is hard, it requires effort. We really should introduce some philosophy into our schoolsystem.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:52 PM
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Oh for sure, our userbase may be white and young, but if our goals were reached, we would help every man of every age and color.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:42 PM
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I can't see any rational principle which can differentiate these two types of insurance from one another. And what does that tell you? I really wish people would look at principles universally. Nothing that is fair, moral, principal or rational changes it's rules when applied to different people. That makes the it either fallacious, or it makes you an asshole for ascribing different moral values or rationality to different people. If shaming women is bad, you cannot combat that with shaming of m…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:39 PM
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Why do they dislike him? He's basically advocating for communism, I thought feminists loved that. I know communists love feminists. But then again, so do anarchists.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:34 PM
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To be fair, this is somewhat true of /r/mensrights also. I mean, at least we have some semblance of reality and rationality, but we are largely comprised of relatively young white men on a median basis.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:32 PM
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"Hey black people, if you just, you know, let the racists do their thing, and you do your thing, all will be well" A+ logic
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:27 PM
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Yeah, and they aren't feminists.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:39 PM
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I do, however, think that 'dictionary feminists' exist in large numbers. That's called being a decent person, being an egalitarian or humanist or equalist, not feminist.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:30 PM
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I don't really believe you can be a fully reasonable feminist. To be reasonable, to exercise reason, requires self examination of yourself and you ideas and the theories you believe in. If they did that, they wouldn't believe in patriarchy theory or rape culture, or believe that the answer to perceived shaming and injustice is shaming and injustice. Reasonable people don't fight hate with hate.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:28 PM
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I was banned from /r/AskWomen for responding to a comment about legal gray areas in rape. Why? Because in another comment threat said that she had been raped. It's completely ridiculous.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:26 PM
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Your first mistake is thinking that rationalwiki is rational. It's not much better than a 14 year old pseudointelectual overzealous atheist kid with a thesaurus. It does't care about the truth, it care about it's ideology.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:24 PM
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That's what happens when victimhood is turned into political currency.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:39 AM
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Try to establish MRA groups on campuses or male spaces in places where the opposite exists and then tell me that feminism and MRA's aren't contrary. When feminists stop telling me I'm a misogynist because I'm an MRA, or because I'm not a feminist I will accept that.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:58 PM
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So you're tone policing? His criticisms are largely valid. I tend to believe you should take an argument for what it is rather than throwing it away because it's not said in a manner you prefer.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:55 PM
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Then you examine the opposing point of view, then you debate and examine your ideas and why you believe in them, then you avoid censorship. I've been banned from /r/AskFeminists, /r/Feminism and /r/AskWomen simply for disagreeing. I didn't swear, I didn't offend, I simply debated feminist thought. That my friend, is how you get echo chambers.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:29 PM
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Oh I know. There have been studies that have shown that the more equal and progressive a country is, the more people will fall back into their gender roles. It's called the equality paradox, there's a great documentary on YouTube about it from Norway.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:18 PM
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For sure. I've only been here for a year, but damn, in that year I've started looking completely differently at the world. I was never a liberal or a feminist, but I never really question a lot of my preconceived notions. I've gone from not knowing anything to examining everything. Still though, It's irritating to see hard truths being downvoted even here.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 02:39 PM
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It's a nice speech. AvFM get's a lot of shit here, but I really like it and it's writers.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:51 AM
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I saw that, great article.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:12 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JymN5yu-K_o Feminists have actively lobbied against male contraceptives. So yeah, the economy is part of it, but far from the whole picture.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:29 AM
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I'm sure there's more too. I wonder why my opinion is somehow inflammatory or controversial. It's based on nothing but fact. I'm not saying women aren't capable, I'm saying they just haven't done it, and that the patriarchy^<sup>tm</sup> isn't the only reason. I'm still not convinced that a feminist type patriarchy has existed.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:58 AM
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I'm getting the same feel. Fuck men, get some backbone. This statement would only be offensive if it was completely untrue.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:10 AM
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Amen man, this thread is disappointing as fuck. It's like a charade. I mean, what the fuck, I thought we cared about truth, yet here we are spouting "it was the patriarchy all along". Yet women have been able to control armies, yet a woman advice fucking Xerxes on how to fight the greeks. But no, let's sacrifice the truth to be as politically correct and soft as possible.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:05 AM
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And that would be valid if the MRA wasn't a largely diffuse internet group, with some IRL groups spread around the globe. Feminists have a huge influence on the government, in school and in academia. There is no doubt, just look at what the feminists with power do.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:59 AM
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I probably have grown callous on the internet, can you point out the hatred of women in that post?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:56 AM
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It is, and it fits me perfectly.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:48 AM
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I love your work man, your videos was one of the first things that brought me into the MRM. Without you I wouldn't be well versed in everything from feminist rhetoric to everything from legal paternal surrender to academic bias. They actually did a study in Norwegian schools recently: Identical papers sent to teachers, the only difference was the gender of the name, and the social class of the name. The results, weren't surprising, the boy names were scored significantly lower than both of the g…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 06:05 PM
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I don't know enough about Korean domestic violence to respond to that in either direction. The middle eastern culture is vastly different. It's not really relevant to this discussion. In the western world it hasn't been accepted, ever, as far as I know. But yes, womens rights is a huge issue over there.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 06:00 PM
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What kind of self respecting libertarian would say that? I'm not denying that women do tend to vote in favor of government expansion, but christ, wishing someones right to vote away goes against libertarianism so hard.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:56 PM
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Really? I've never stumbled upon that opinion, and I spend a really unhealthy amount of time on reddit.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 04:56 PM
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Come on dude. A patriarchy in the terms feminists are using hasn't existed at all. There has never been this Marxist class struggle between the sexes. The poor men and women suffered together, while the rich men and women lived in luxury, with each other. Yes, women were held back, there are many reasons for this, some of which include that men had all the responsibility, therefore all the decision making power. Still, it was never accepted to beat your wife. In 1909 Pensylvania, a police office…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 04:52 PM
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Avoiceformen.com is outpacing every feminist site except Jezebel. It's taking off, believe me.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 04:27 PM
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Haha, okay then. If you can show me evidence of women creating just as much as men in relation to their gender percentage in their respective fields I will believe you. Also, I remain dubious that what stopped women from building, as in putting on a hard-hat, or picking up one of those weird little spades brick layers use was the patriarchy. Did you read my comment about women warriors? Women have led entire armies, fought off invasions and aided in battle against the greek (against motherfuckin…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 04:19 PM
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Are you being sarcastic?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 03:42 PM
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St. Joan of Arc commanded an army at 17, Artemisia I of Caria helped Xerxes fight the greeks, The Trung Sisters fought off Chinese invasions for three years. Women have been able to do this, but not build houses or invent? Why? I would say that a woman being a military leader is further from her gender role than being an engineer. Edit: Or a bricklayer, plummer, electrician, scaffolder, glassmaster, carpenter. Women have reached the upper echelons of society even when they were held back or what…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 03:23 PM
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I signed it, though I don't really think this will achieve much of anything. 2000 feminists signing a petition to ban /r/MensRights wouldn't stop me coming here. It's going to take more than something they will maybe glance at to change their tinted vision of the world.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:53 PM
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Are they wrong? If they had taken the "everything" out of that statement, I would be hard pressed to back up an opposing claim. Women are better at some things, men at others. That doesn't mean there isn't great overlap, that doesn't mean one is better than the other, that doesn't mean we should treat them differently.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:50 PM
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Body armor makes more sense than that thing. You're more likely to need it, especially as a man.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:01 PM
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I recently posted a post at /r/changemyview about this very topic, and it got a lot of feedback, it ended up nearing a thousand comments. If you're interested, or need some arguments for Legal Paternal Surrender, or rebuttal against criticisms of it, just look trough the comments there, or ask me. When I don't understand something, I look until I do, so I feel like I have a pretty firm handle on the whole thing now. http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1pikqr/i_think_legal_paternal_surr…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 12:38 PM
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Why not?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 12:34 PM
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How could she possibly spend years deciding? I decided in a day. If you look at it logically and morally, the decision is obvious. Her argument is basically utilitarianism, which is great until you think about it for a bit. If you look at my posting history, I recently posted a post at /r/changemyview about this very topic, and it got a lot of feedback, it ended up nearing a thousand comments. There is a lot of hostility toward giving the man a choice, even from men. But check it out nontheless,…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 12:34 PM
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Right then, let me rephrase, pedophiles that are waiting to snatch your kid up outside of his school aren't common. Basically, every kind of perceived societal threat isn't nearly as maliciously omnipresent as the media wants you to think. We are safer than ever before. The amount of rape and child-diddling and terrorism in the first world is lower than it has ever been. This isn't just going on in the US. In Sweden during the 90's people were freaking out about rings of satanic pedophile rings …
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:57 AM
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Are you Jonathan?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:49 AM
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I think the largest issue is that people see doctorates and degrees as something that proves you are intelligent. I argued shortly with a feminist yesterday, who basically said that all of GirlWritesWhat's videos are false because GWW doesn't have a degree. Degrees aren't badges that prove you're capable of critical thought and examination of preconceived notions and all that other jazz you need to build realistic worldviews. They are echo-chambers where you need to be good at regurgitating info…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:48 AM
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Haha, I remember the first time I saw her video on male disposability. It really just blew my mind. After that I've watched most of her videos, most of barbarossas videos, and Stardusks videos. It's really opened my mind up.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:41 AM
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There were hints here and there, especially during my education, but when I discovered that 80% of suicide victims are male, It really opened my eyes, and I started digging more. As someone who's had depression since young, that really shocked me. Especially since suicide is often played like it's something that predominately affects women, like an attempt at suicide is equal to a completed one. But that simple fact has definitively made me distance myself even further from suicide.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:38 AM
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Just voice your complaints, or ignore threads that seem oversensitive. There's some great content here.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:28 AM
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While your title is pretty idiotic, and while your frustration is misplaced, I have to say that this is pretty idiotic. This is the equivalent of men going around town wearing flak vests. The biggest problem here is that they make it seem like you have a pretty good chance of being raped during your morning jog. It's fear mongering, or the result of fear mongering. Violent backalley rapes aren't common, pedophiles aren't common, and terrorists aren't around the corner.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:26 AM
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I'm not arguing for libertarianism. I'm not speaking against the government, I'm not promoting or denoting anything. I'm simply saying that tax=theft. You're pulling opinions and words from thin air. The MRA movement is growing faster than ever, it's not desperate at all. The MRA is also non partisan, mostly, so there's that.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:15 AM
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Sure. That argument is a non-sequitur though, what the state does with its money is irrelevant to how it got the money. I too am against it, but what are you going to do? What can you do? Not much as is.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:05 AM
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Again, saying that tax is theft doesn't really change anything. If we all admitted it, not much would change. I think the only effect would be that people would be more critical of it's expenditure. When you think if it as a necessary evil instead of whatever delusions you've convinced yourself of, you don't want your money going to drone strikes in the middle east. I could be collectively elected as a neighborhood representative in your neighborhood, and it would still be theft if I forced mone…
/r/MensRights02/11/13 04:58 AM
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You don't need to be a libertarian to see tax as theft. Just because it's theft doesn't mean that it's not better than no tax. It's something taken from you under the threat of force. The government does that because anything else would be political suicide. The government isn't about what's right, it's about what gets you the most votes.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 04:43 AM
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I don't think you're getting what I'm saying mate. I'm on your side. I think tax is theft, I think affirmative action is discrimination, I think reverse racism is as bigoted as normal racism. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 04:22 AM
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Meaning that we as a society are willing to call something something else if we decide that it's good. If I force you to hand over some of your money it's theft, if the state does it it's tax. Affirmative action is the opposite of discrimination, while still being literally discrimination. See how that works?
/r/MensRights02/11/13 04:03 AM
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For the same reason that reverse racism isn't racism, or for the same reasons that gender quotas are fair.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 12:11 AM
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This movie is really great as a movie too, in case people are apprehensive about seeing it. The acting is amazing, the main character is extremely talented. The cinematography is above average. The story is really good. This movies should be mandatory viewing in countries where the media is scare-mongering the people making them think pedophiles are all around us, that you're a pedophile if you have sex with anyone under the of consent, that being a pedophile=child molester, and that just being …
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:43 PM
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That's what happens when you start to look at the world trough an ideology. I'm not fan of the right, but at least it doesn't make me angry with it's lack of reason as the left does.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:34 PM
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I wonder who's downvoting you and the dude above you. It's demonstrably true. Just look around you.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:31 PM
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Do you believe in charity? I guess you're a Christian then HAHA. God. Feminists and logic really doesn't go together.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:29 PM
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Awww shit, this going to be amazing. Tom Leykis is as redpill as they get.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:25 PM
6

Wow, they really are similar.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 06:13 AM
2

Do you have an example? I'm not denying the claim, but I'm having a hard time coming up with an example.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:20 AM
9

I guess what I'm saying is if we talk to some of these femimists and compare view points about gender issues, we might convince some that our views are legitimate A lot of them recognize some male problems and inequality. The problem is that in their mind these problems are caused by the patriarchy, and the solution is to fight patriarchy, which we do by empowering women. They can talk all they want about being equalists, but propose changes that might make things fair and you're a misogynist. F…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:14 AM
4

I love that man. He's up there with Barbarossa and Stardusk.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:07 AM
2

What's their rationale for including these rooms? I can't imagine a gay haunted house focusing so much on women, and especially not on something equally negative, like "Tit twister and cunt punter room"
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:04 AM
1

I'm not following how that makes you unable to take the MRM, male rape and abuse seriously.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 02:52 PM
8

vitriolic I agree that she's often a bit too critical of women, but she is truthful in how the dynamic often functions. She's making generalizations. She's not saying that all women are stupid, thoughtless creatures and that is all they are. She doesn't consider herself stupid. Sometimes when we are talking about things that encompass a lot of individuals, using generalizations allow us to make arguments we wouldn't otherwise be able to make.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 02:38 PM
7

I think the worst part is that they all just know that they're skeptical atheists, better than the rest of them. Intellectually superior. More informed than the rest of them. Morally righteous. You can't reason with the people who think they are reason itself.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 10:04 AM
9

Thanks. People here are often complain about anti-feminism, but I love it. Edit: After listening to this for a while: Holy shit. These people are insane.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:10 AM
5

You can hardly call the current standard of journalists journalists.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:01 AM
7

Ah, Esther Vilar. Love that woman. Here is her book, The manipulated man.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:59 AM
1

Can you rephrase what you're saying more succinctly OP? I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:58 AM
1

"men may be expected to do everything for women and die and be shamed anyways, but women are expected to have everything done for them! it's equally unfair!!!" That this is so widely accepted is insane. As you said, even if the first statement was 100% true, it wouldn't be anywhere near equally unfair.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:57 AM
1

Haha!
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:53 AM
-3

It's not hypocrisy because women as a group don't have any power. Feminism 101 dude. But I'm with the others, it's Halloween, I'll let it pass. I tend to enjoy offensive humor anyways.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:50 AM
5

Does that mean we should sink to their level? Just calling all sex with someone under 18, or 17, or 16, or 15 depending on your state or country rape doesn't seem right, does it? Because rape is sex without consent, and not all sex with someone under 18/17/16/15 is without consent. Call it unlawful sex instead. At least that's accurate. The double standard is disgusting, but I'd rather we focus on not demonizing men, rather than trying to demonize women too.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 04:30 AM
7

Sounds pretty oppressive if you ask me.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 10:55 AM
8

I think the problem here is the perception of objectification. If you stop looking at it in a feminist framework, it isn't bad at all. It's the only thing you can do to someone you do not know and have no way of knowing.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 08:05 AM
6

Yet results are different when looking at porn. Men look at the female face much more than women, and both look at the genitals comparably. source: http://www.science20.com/news_articles/gender_and_porn_where_men_and_women_look_first Maybe we should start calling it "the female gaze", eh?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:45 AM
-1

You're being disingenuous. Are you implying that people from TRP can't see women as more than vaginae? Are you implying that none of them have female friend? Even your use of sometimes negates the premise of your entire argument. It's a double standard.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:36 AM
-1

So what does a slut see a man as? A walking penis with a wallet? What does the TRP see women as?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:29 AM
6

Have you seen the video of some dudes standing in front of a gender studies on campus with petitions to stop womens suffrage? They got a pretty big amount of signatures.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:22 PM
1

There's nothing in TRP that says you have to be dominant, or that you have to provide etc. They are saying that if you want to have more success with the opposite sex, you should do A, B and C. If you want to pursue relationships and sex in a different way, that's fine, but you're going to have a much harder time than someone from TRP. It's not about gender roles, it's about reality. What works, and what doesn't? As for your second point, It's built on false pretenses. They look at some women as…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:11 PM
2

A lot of them are in relationships and a fair amount are married. They understand fully that there's a spectrum. The spectrum is just a little more saturated at one end than they previously thought.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:07 PM
1

Did you just quote yourself?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:04 PM
2

If these men are faking certain behavior patterns and it works, what does that say about the women they date? Men in general, and women in general share some traits, some things that they like. It doesn't really say as much about a specific subgroup, as there is no specific subgroup, only women. It's a numbers game, you have to remember what a generalization is. There will be exceptions, but that doesn't mean that women who like the TRP men are some secluded subgroup of women.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:01 PM
0

I think you're pretty spot on except here. Make no mistake, they treat women as targets. This is not necessarily anti-woman. Often times however, it is. Is a woman looking for a rich man, anti-man? Is a slut anti-man? Do you hear how wrong it feels reversed? Why do you find it so easy to apply the anti-woman misogyny label when it's reversed?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:56 PM
1

Concern troll is a term in any sub with controversial opinions I think. I've seen it used on /r/TheRedPill, so it may be a manosphere thing.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 11:08 AM
8

Just because you're faster, doesn't mean that you should steal, black people! Edit: I really needed to put a comma after steal.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:36 AM
1

Surprisingly, people accusing me of being a pedophile is rare. I have had a few people wish me to get raped though. But only so that I would see the light of feminism.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:35 AM
1

Stealing money is far from exclusive to communism. I.E tax.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:17 AM
2

I don't know if your concern trolling or being serious. The reasons why MRA's and feminists can't cooperate are many. Feminists operate under the framework of wonderful theories such as "the patriarchy" and "Rape culture". If you want to cooperate, the MRA's being the smaller group would also have to operate under this framework, since anything else is sexism and misogyny. You seem to think that the problem is simply feminists not knowing about male DV victims, or male homelessness. They are ful…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:10 AM
3

I've been saying this for years now. I can't wrap my mind around the hatred for pedophiles. I wonder if people really think that they maliciously chose their sexuality and they just stubbornly refuse being normal so they can rape little kids.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:00 AM
1

Ah, I was confused there for a second. Opinions here are so split sometimes that I though he was serious.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:56 AM
3

Current culture really does breed solipsism in a lot of women doesn't it?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:54 AM
2

They're really not. Listening to what people are saying and not how they are saying should be the important thing.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:52 AM
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Nice message, but the delivery makes me cringe. Her argument brings up the point which I tend to use in debate with feminists, especially in regards to the all to common NAFALT/No True Scotsman argument. Feminism is a multi billion dollar movement. It's institutionalized in schools, and especially the government. And look at the results. Look at who they help and how. And they still claim that feminism is simply the quest for equality.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:36 AM
1

They did? How is that possible? What did the women do that made up for the difference created by dudes working the fields and coal mines 14 hours a day?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 09:35 PM
2

Yep. So where do we draw the line? A two year old isn't of much use. It has a shitty personality and isn't much but a nuisance. If that's a bit extreme, why not abort a 8 month old? Where do we draw the line any why?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 06:10 AM
2

Yeah, it isn't logical, but I can't help but seeing the fetus as the potential it is.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 06:04 AM
1

And if I kill you right now your future friends aren't going to miss you. I know that, but the fact still affects my opinion on the matter.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:57 AM
3

I'm not surprised. I wouldn't imagine anyone here being surprised at that article frankly. The public is rarely sympathetic towards men as a group. Especially when it threatens preconceived notions of their worldview. You have the traditionalists on the right and the feminists on the left. Both are pretty bad news for men. But of course, speaking against this narrative will make you a "not a real man", where the solution is to "man up" in the right hemisphere, or a misogynist, woman hater etc. i…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:30 AM
2

I don't like abortion at all. After hearing about a friend who's mother had considered abortion, it changed my view on it drastically. If she'd done it, he would have died. It sounds stupid, but it was enough to make me reconsider my view. Now, despite this, I believe that abortion often can be the lesser of two evils. I don't think it should be outright illegal, but I don't think it should be used as a contraceptive.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:21 AM
9

And yet they need all the affirmative action, all the governmental support because anything else is sexism.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:10 PM
4

How stupid is this girl? But the reason for the differences between the life expectancies of men and women isn't in some horrendous plot by a feminist-manipulated health care system. It may be partly a biological difference (sorta like the difference in menstruation or who gives birth) and therefore not perhaps altogether amenable to changes in health care policies. Mostly, however, the difference comes from greater male mortality at earlier ages. Heh, normally any attempt to point out biologica…
/r/MensRights27/10/13 07:52 PM
2

● The MRM is not against the feminist movement or women. Don't conflate feminism and women. Also, I'm pretty sure we are against the feminist movement considering it's actively working against our goals.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 07:41 PM
1

It really is the worst. I do that from time to time. You'd think I'd learn.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 05:54 AM
2

I did actually write some much more detailed stuff in my original post, but I accidentally Ctrl+R'ed, so it got deleted. Listen to this man OP. The educational situation is especially telling. It's the same in Norway. There have been several studies showing that girls and women get higher grades based on their sex also, where identical papers have been graded by hundreds of teachers, where the only difference was the gender of the name.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 05:13 AM
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I would change "radical feminists" with just "feminists". What was radical isn't really radical feminism anymore, it's just normal feminism. If you keep radical in there you just set yourself up for a "no true scotsman/NAFALT" retort by your classmates/teacher. Focus on how feminists generally deny help to men. Bring up the Duluth model. I would change out the third point about false accusation with domestic abuse. Men are half the victims, yet get little to no help by state programs informed by…
/r/MensRights27/10/13 04:26 AM
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Well, I certainty wouldn't recommend you having a kid with her. Even with tight skin (phimosis) you rarely need more than a small cut. Full circumcision is rarely needed for purely medical reasons, and there are almost always better options.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 10:23 PM
4

What about them?
/r/MensRights26/10/13 10:20 PM
3

I don't think you understand what demonize means. Female sexuality has never been demonized in modern times. It's been shamed, but not demonized. It's not something we teach people to fear. If the only way you can get a girl to fuck you is get her drunk then there probably is something wrong and it's not the girl at fault. What the fuck man? What kind of logic is that? That doesn't justify anything. That's like saying "Well, John did forget to lock his house, so I can't really fault the thieves.…
/r/MensRights26/10/13 04:49 PM
2

Just use your main account. I've been posting MRA stuff for a while, including a lot of highly controversial opinions. I've had a few of my posts here hit the front page on /r/mensrights and /r/all, and I've yet to receive any PM's by angry feminists. At the worst I've been called a misogynist quite a few times. And some feminists say that they hope I get raped.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 05:32 AM
3

Okay? What's your point? The amount of child support does rarely dictate how many kids someone have.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 05:27 AM
1

Oh no, xxchromosones getting caught up in their tinted worldview. Color me surprised. There's not point in doing anything but ignoring them. I've tried logic, it doesn't work. I saw more than one comment in there saying that it was stupid that we didn't fight the patriarchy like them, because it would solve almost all our problems.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 05:26 AM
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Ugh, read the comments. I'm not sure if it's a Jezebel brigade or what, but I doubt many of the feminists there even read the article.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 04:05 AM
3

Very good point. Never thought of it that way before.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:58 AM
14

While I generally dislike his videos, every video he has on gender issues is spot on!
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:49 AM
1

Speak for yourself, I'm going to have an awesome time with my state of the art VR system. Just look at how good the Oculus Rift already is. Imagine that in 50-60 years. It's going to be amazing.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 01:51 AM
1

I can't really agree with that. Pack wolves aren't the only species with alpha-beta behavior. Even if they were, it wouldn't really matter. They've just borrowed the words. It's not the words themselves that are important. Can you deny that people tend to have innate traits? If yes, you're ignorant. If no, should we just ignore them because we are too complex? Maybe we should rid the world of the concept of generalizations also? Maybe we should start over in the field of psychology and make up w…
/r/MensRights25/10/13 05:35 PM
1

But to make it individualistic to the degree you're speaking of would make it useless to the majority of people. And I wouldn't exactly call them traditionalists. They are really adamant about not being used as a wallet, and not letting themselves get stepped on. They hate the military, they advocate against getting married etc. That's pretty far away from traditionalism, wouldn't you say? Also, are you denying that we have inherent biological tendencies? If so, that's just naive. It's important…
/r/MensRights25/10/13 05:21 PM
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I agree, but did you read OP's post? Calling it a framework might be a misnomer, it's more like a bunch of principles. Really good principles.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 05:17 PM
4

I don't know if you read OP's post, but there's nothing ideological or anything that would in any way legitimize feminism.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:42 PM
1

They are not an advocacy group though. They are there as as a resource to those interested, not as a machine to force people to conform. If you believe a view of theirs is sexist, don't listen to it. That doesn't mean there aren't things there worth listening to.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:35 PM
0

It's not about who your are as a person per say, but about how you act in a relationship.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:34 PM
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Is that view so extreme? I've heard several people say that, and most of them have been women. Conservative women of course, but women still.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:33 PM
1

Why? At least they are honest. At least they are able to logically and civically carry out a conversation. They are their own little sphere. They don't recruit. They don't really care if you hate them, or that you call them misogynistic. The first statement doesn't matter and the second isn't true.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:30 PM
9

We have to remember that we, just like the feminists can sometimes quickly knee jerk into "That's misogynistic" mode. We should able to have frank discussion about everything from relationship dynamics to evolutionary psychology. We should be able to throw out theories and hypotheticals without being called sexist.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:26 PM
7

This is really good. I was worried you were going to throw around theories to match their patriarchytm and rape culture.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:23 PM
3

Don't forget "racist" and "bigot", you can't be anywhere but the left and not be those.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 04:00 PM
5

It's worth noting that the radical measures implemented to fight the glass ceiling in Norway was implemented before any actual empirical evidence was collected. It was simply based upon "But it's not 50/50 lol" argument.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 03:52 PM
1

You will still earn money when you get out.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 03:19 PM
4

Four years is still insane. That's 48 months, 192 weeks. There's a lot you could do in that time. I wonder why this isn't a bigger deal for most people. Do they think that this is just a biological fact? That women just have longer lifespans because genetics?
/r/MensRights24/10/13 03:16 PM
3

I'm not saying I wouldn't step in, I'm saying I'm not obliged to step in. Did you not read what I said? My reaction will vary upon the circumstances. If I can stop something bad from happening, I will, but I will not sacrifice my life to do so. Also, that example you posted over is hardly relevant. There's a huge difference between a phone thief and a rapist.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 04:13 AM
8

Nope. I've heard him talk about that before, and he specifically said that he wouldn't physically intervene. He's not an evil asshole. You're pulling opinions out of thin air and pinning them on him. I understand what he's saying and why he's saying it perfectly fine. Yeah, it's inflammatory, yeah, people will find it offensive. I don't really care.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 09:06 PM
7

Sorry, but that's how generalizations work. I really don't get why people have suck a hard time understanding that. Yeah, my reaction will vary upon the circumstances, I'm not a robot, but I'm also not an unpaid bodyguard.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 09:03 PM
13

As he said, you are not an unpaid bodyguard. Would a woman step in to protect you? Call the police and move on. Just like you would do if you saw two guys fighting. And he's saying that they (female rape victims) have enough resources, therefore he does't need to care about them. I think that you're either don't fully understand what he's saying, or you feel the need to protect women.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:50 PM
4

even typical of the left. Really? You can't see any hint of a trend for leftiness in feminist activity? Do you think the distribution is anywhere near equal?
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:11 PM
3

Speaking of the faults of the left does not negate the faults of the right. I'm so tried of everyone assuming I'm on the right if I mention the left in even a somewhat negative light. Does saying something about my taste in classical affect my taste in metal? I'm just not getting the logic behind that statement. If one dislikes both sides, do you have to say so in every utterance mentioning them? What was he supposed to do? "You know how the leftoids love to say that privilege is invisible to th…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:07 PM
6

I love this guy, probably spent around 40 hours watching his stuff at least. He has completely changed my views on democracy and the state.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:01 PM
0

I don't really care, I'm interested in frank discussion. I'm not trying to make people understand by niceness but by honesty and reality.
/r/MensRights22/10/13 03:40 PM
2

It took me a whole course in gender studies to understand. Really? It's not that complex.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 09:33 PM
3

But hey, most guys don't do anything for prostate cancer either (myself included), so I'm not calling you a bad person or anything... all I'm saying is that if prostate cancer is really that big of an issue to you, get out there and do something. That I can accept. Previously your argument basically equated to my opinion being irrelevant and/or de facto wrong since I didn't actually do anything. I don't know how that goes. What I do know is that if I am passionate about something, a little criti…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 03:47 PM
0

I disagree. If you're not out there giving money & advocating for the issue yourself, how can you possibly be upset that nobody else is? Because I have empathy and a brain. Let's say your logic here is good. That would mean that I could only choose to be upset by the number of causes I myself had time to raise funding for. Imagine if I myself was dirt-poor, or sick. Well fuck me, I guess I can't complain. Guess everything is right with the world then. Nothing in life is easy... getting upset bec…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 03:23 PM
3

but nothing's stopping men from advocating for prostate cancer. Firstly, that doesn't justify the current situation. There's nothing stopping you from taking a jog now, that doesn't mean hospitals shouldn't help you when you have a heart attack. It's shitty logic. Secondly, women's groups take redirection of attention as a slight. You are stealing attention - you are stealing help from women - misogyny and violence. I think the primary reason companies do it is to burnish their reputation. Some …
/r/MensRights21/10/13 02:55 PM
7

I'm not angry at breast cancer, I dislike the insane imbalance. Especially since the largest breast cancer awareness barely gives any of it's money to the cause. Simply selling pink shit and giving money to awareness won't do shit. Only the few people that donate to the actual research make a difference. I would be happy with just a cancer research month. Which should be all year really, but whatever.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 02:34 PM
7

It's not easy finding studies from only one year on everything you want.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 02:09 PM
9

How much of the money do you even think goes to breast cancer research? An awareness month for breast-cancer will do about jack shit. Do you know a single person that doesn't know about how dangerous breast cancer is? Now, what about colon cancer? Prostate cancer? Pancreatic cancer?
/r/MensRights21/10/13 02:06 PM
3

Oh, haha, sorry about that.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 08:54 PM
2

I'm so jealous of that.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 08:44 PM
2

You're confusing philosophy with common traits. Women, like men have commonly have traits that you can predict by their sex. This is not sexist, this is just true. There are exceptions to the rule, that's how generalizations work.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 08:39 PM
8

Ugh. There's absolutely nothing wrong with generalizations if you understand what they are. We can't have conversations without generalizations. Please stop with the tone-policing bullshit.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 08:37 PM
3

It doesn't matter that your friends think it's bullshit when the state buys it wholesale. The same goes for most of the west.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 08:32 PM
3

Enoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:31 PM
7

I hope it will just die away. It as a political movement must seek perpetual victimhood, because that is what will gain it the most political and in turn monetary power.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 04:51 AM
-3

While I only agree with the last hypothetical, yes, I do believe that, and I have for a long time now. On a forum for INTJ's of all things I actually made a thread about rape not being worse than death, and a lot of people disagreed. How insane isn't that?
/r/MensRights18/10/13 04:18 AM
2

I don't even know what to say to that. I mean, you're already getting it cheaper by paying the same as men for something you use much more, which is obviously such equality. Even still, her entire article is a non-sequitur. She's basically campaigning for more equal outcomes and affirmative action. How does that relate to obamacare? It doesn't.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 03:56 AM
3

This sub has a tendency to fluctuate a bit between politically correct and honest.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 03:43 AM
11

While that is true, feminism still has enough power to make saying you're not one political suicide in Sweden for example. And that's pretty scary.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 03:24 AM
1

Then why not just fall into humanitarianism? Mens rights is ultimately humanitarian, but it's not humanitarianism. The "H" feels misplaced. Like a letter that's there just to make us seem more PC and non-threatening.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 03:37 PM
1

I love your comment, but MHRM? Why? Why not just MRM?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 01:44 PM
3

Did you read the quotes from the judge? That was pure feminist rhetoric. It was just emotional garbage without meaning.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 07:48 AM
5

Yeah, I saw a documentary a while ago where an overzealous new police chief or something lead to several innocent people being arrested for child molestation and pedophilia. Some of them sat in jail for decades. I wish I remembered what it was called. It was like witch trials.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 07:40 AM
5

I've considered it. Toronto/Edmonton doesn't seem to great with what I've seen here, but otherwise it seems like a mix between America and Scandinavia, which is awesome. Plus, I would like to live somewhere a bit less boring than Norway.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:43 AM
2

I think so, yeah.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:26 AM
12

And what country is better? We supposedly live in paradise up here in the North, yet I can't say we're much better at the gender related stuff.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 07:22 AM
5

There were some violent protests a while ago. I cant remember what it was. Girlwriteswhat talked about it, where a woman was beaten, the same as thousands of men were. This particular beating however sparked a campaign of violence against women and outrage by feminists and the mainstream alike. Women in the country were speaking of letting their fathers, brothers and husbands protect them with their blood. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but they were essentially talking about violence by p…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 02:04 AM
3

Yep. But if you even try to clarify that those are two very different things, you're of course just a pedophile trying to explain yourself away. Except if you're a woman of course. Or a mainstream news site apparently.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 06:27 PM
2

Haha, fucking hell. Every time I'm linking something I forget the actual links.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 04:09 PM
7

Here are some of the image text: The 17-year-old wasn't afraid to get wet for some of the swimsuit snaps Playful: As she posed in a straw hat and cut-out bikini, the KUWTK star got dirty in the sand Not a kid: The brunette beauty proved she's maturing by flashing a serious face for some of the shots Then of course, in the next article they are talking about men doing the exact same thing over "paedophile websites" Miss Hargreaves also warned that older teenagers could themselves be in contravent…
/r/MensRights14/10/13 04:07 PM
1

Here's the pedo episode. It's seriously great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
/r/MensRights14/10/13 03:57 PM
4

I agree with everything but the second sentence. The sisterhood, and having it all aren't needed at all. It sounds pretty silly frankly, but gynocentrism and hypergamy are both traits that are advantageous.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 03:52 PM
1

I'm for free speech completely. I believe that we would progress much faster if we could have frank discussions about everything and anything, everywhere. I hate walking into a /r/AskWomen thread and seeing a graveyard of comments. I hate when the mods just deletes a comment they dislike.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 03:01 PM
10

What it also means is equal outcomes no matter what. Anything else is racist and sexist.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 02:27 PM
13

Yeah, plus most people aren't as awesome as your short girl was in that first situation.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 02:25 PM
8

It's still women's rights, just in a warped "some are more equal than others" kind of way.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 08:38 PM
24

You're defiantly not providing any examples. Every time I've seen anything close to misogyny here, people get called out on it. If you feel that generalizations is the same as the hate of women, well you need to grow some thicker skin.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 12:31 PM
3

Probably. Would be interesting to see what would happen if we reversed it and went full on communism too.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:57 PM
6

I've never really thought about it, but I wold love to see how gender roles would adapt in a society without taxation.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:39 PM
1

Really? I thought he looked like a Swedish Stephen Merchant.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 03:21 PM
2

It's funny how we think we are the exemplary example of egalitarianism and equality here in Scandinavia where the double standards shines the brightest.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 03:16 PM
1

Det virker iallefall som folket har litt vett i kommentarfeltet.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 03:13 PM
1

Yeah, Ive read several times that people just don't do anything there in situations where something happens in public. Sad really.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 03:02 AM
8

The bystander effect isn't all-powerful. It doesn't take that much for someone to break it, especially given how long this thing lasted. Thinking that this has no basis in gender is insane. Do you honestly think that a man slapping a woman repeatedly would be left alone?
/r/MensRights09/10/13 12:01 AM
1

I didn't say that someone should slap the girl or anything, but at the very least get the dude up to his feet and get some space between the pair.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 11:45 PM
3

He thinks it's OK? If someone get's another person to the level where they sit and take it like he took it, then there's something seriously wrong with that relationship. Someone should have stood up for that man like anyone else would have stood up for a woman.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 11:40 PM
27

But they still didn't do anything. The first thing that popped into my head while watching the video was that someone should walk up to the man and grab him by his shoulder raising him up to his feet, and just asking "what the hell is going on here?". Someone should have acted as a voice of reason. There was a video posted here recently where two actors were stationed at a park, and they acted out an abusive relationship where the woman was the abuser. As she publicly abused and hit him, almost …
/r/MensRights08/10/13 08:48 PM
82

If that was the case, someone from the crowd would have interjected instead of just standing there.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 05:11 PM
7

Woman are innocent until proven guilty, in cases like these, men are guilty until proven innocent. At least in the eyes of the media and the mainstream.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:43 AM
4

Is that sarcasm? Does making informed decisions make you both bitter and jaded? You have to critically think about - and ask yourself what a marriage is, and why you want it, and then weigh that against the potential risk.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:38 AM
11

It's funny how people not allowing women moral agency are absolutely convinced they are all shining the torch of equality.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:35 AM
4

Yes, but patriarchy implies that men are responsible, almost maliciously so. It's also a word ripe with feminist connotations, most of which are aimed at men. I've tried to convince feminists that they are using the apex fallacy, and normally, they "reason" around it.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:30 PM
3

Sorry, it's poorly phrased. If you try to debate a statist, one of the most common complaints or retorts is that you don't care about poor people. They then invent situations which are impossible to retort, because you don't have the knowledge to do so, therefore, they won the argument. I'm doing a shitty job of presenting the idea, but you get my point.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:06 PM
8

"our disagreement with them is almost entirely relating to the treatment of men in society." Well, not really. A large part, maybe the largest biggest difference is the fact that the MRM cannot and will not think inside a feminist framework. We cannot accept patriarchy theory or rape culture as feminists present them. We are not an feminist offshoot because we oppose the very tenets of feminism. A lot of people naively think that we are the same, or that you can be intellectually honest and stil…
/r/MensRights07/10/13 05:28 PM
2

Yes. That doesn't justify sexism in the form of preferential treatment of women, or forcing them to become involved in tech. Programs to get women into engineering, tech and other high-class male professions have never done well.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 04:46 PM
3

Yeah, but liberal and libertarian is extremely similar. A lot of people just think you mean librarian.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 04:44 PM
2

Yeah, I hate that. I wish libertarians had a more distinct word.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 04:28 PM
3

It's the same with statists. I listened to a philosopher talk about a fallacy - "God of the gaps". It's basically a fallacy where gaps in knowledge or science is proof of something. For example, we can't explain what started the big bang, or what was before it, therefore God exists. I heard some noises, and I couldn't figure out why - therefore ghosts. Some poor people would fall trough the cracks/ wouldn't get help - therefore we need the state.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 04:14 PM
4

Libertarian? You mean liberal right? I think it's pretty rare to find anyone in Europe, especially where I'm from that can convince of anything small government or lack thereof. If I'm not mistaken, liberals are generally pretty statist, no?
/r/MensRights07/10/13 02:26 PM
1

Yeah, but I doubt that's a fair view of it. That sounds more like the liberal view of the conservative view.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 02:24 PM
3

Oh, I know. I've had countless debates with feminists and white knights. Logic and reason always comes last. But hey, if you look trough the glass of ideology, everything is going to be tinted. Not much you can do but stop people from believing in the ideology in the first place.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:49 PM
1

It's pretty easy. Make hitting your kids illegal, and stop outsourcing parenting.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:38 PM
5

How does it hurt your industry? Is the lack of transgendered black people also making your industry suffer? If you have qualified people, male or female, you're going to do fine. Sex doesn't matter, it's that simple.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:36 PM
1

In Norway, you get extra points for being a woman in about 300 studies, while men only get extra points in two (veterinary and nurse I think), which means that as a man, you have to do better than a woman to be considered equal. When you pair this with exclusive leadership courses for women, you're not exactly playing on an even battlefield.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:29 PM
5

What does social conservative mean nowadays?
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:24 PM
21

Is the MRM in a fixed position on the right/left dichotomy? I've been here for a year or so now, and I've never really thought about it. If asked, I would probably say the majority of guys here are pretty fucking liberal.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:23 PM
2

Hey, I'm not saying anyone's guilty of anything. I'm just more worried about the logistics of the act.
/r/MensRights06/10/13 08:04 PM
2

I'm sort of wondering the same thing. Not sure if I want to know either.
/r/MensRights06/10/13 05:08 PM
6

How about "You were a mugging victim"? Alternatively, "you've been the victim of a mugging."
/r/MensRights06/10/13 05:07 PM
-2

Hold on, that was completely justified. How is it okay for men to suffer, if it's for the greater good of society, but slavery is not okay for the betterment of society? How do you justify saying that?
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:20 AM
3

Hypergamy, advanced careers and gynocentrism doesn't end well, does it?
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:13 AM
1

Why?
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:07 AM
1

Yeah, the completely serious use of womyn made me crackle up.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 06:49 PM
6

I wish people would have a more balanced view of the past. I don't know how feminism somehow convinced everyone that women were what basically equated to cattle up and until the suffragette movement which justifies in peoples mind what they are doing.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 06:44 PM
0

Yeah, that's good advice. I listened to a medical podcast where the host occasionally brought up how testosterone is often overlooked.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/13 04:42 AM
1

You're allowed to question whatever you want. There's no censorship here, unlike some other places. Yes, there are a lot of anti-feminists here, me included. Do you not understand why?
/r/MensRights01/10/13 10:01 PM
14

An atheist can criticize /r/atheism
/r/MensRights01/10/13 09:57 PM
2

Haha, of course you're married. Good luck with that.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:41 AM
2

Again, you're using emotional arguments. How is living for yourself sociopathy? Why should I live to take care of people who can take care of themselves? I guess you think it's a good idea to get married also?
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:37 AM
2

Again, you're not really saying anything. My elders lived and worked so they could support other people and died earlier as a result. That's the opposite of freedom. I live for myself, not women. You're starting to sound eerily similar to a traditionalist.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:28 AM
3

What about the men that are content with things that don't "make insecure girls wet" should they just conform to your ideals of what a real man is? Is their way of life not right or worthwhile because it doesn't impress women? Perception is reality. The world goes around on bullshit. It doesn't matter if something is, it only matters that you and other believe it is, because then it could just as well be. Reality doesn't care about your ideals of honor. Live life like you want to, but ease down …
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:24 AM
2

Didn't take you long to give up. Hah
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:12 AM
2

If you think that's all the redpill is about, you're the idiot. Why is spending your life trying to impress the opposite sex honorable? What have I said that make me a coward? Or is it just an emotional argument trying to paint me in a bad light?
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:11 AM
5

There is no real man, only the perception of a real man. That's why I say that game is achieving the woman's perception of "a real man". There is nothing honorable about working more for the same. Who decides what a man is? Why is your opinion more important than those who do not share that opinion? You seem like the type of guy that blindly believes in patriotism and the bits of colored ribbon soldiers get for killing other young men.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 03:06 AM
10

Do you realize how stupid that argument is, especially in this subreddit? Who has all the official support? Who get's the funding? Well fuck me, I guess we're wrong and feminism is right. Thanks liquid_j for your piercing intellect.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:58 AM
3

I don't run game on women. I realize that it works, and I'm not offended by people using it. Also, realize that being yourself isn't always a great strategy, especially if you're looking for a one night stand or something similar.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:57 AM
7

What kind of emotional manipulation? The manipulation called socializing? Is this not something we all do? As the dude under me said, they are aware of the games women often play on men. They also use the females perception of what an alpha male is to get her to have sex with him. As long as there's no false pretenses involved, I'm having a hard time getting all offended over that.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:45 AM
-1

Why is there a fairly active /r/RedPillWomen then? Is it internalized misogyny? Everybody's hatred for them is about as thought out as /r/Feminism's hatred for /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:42 AM
-9

How so? I've never seen anyone from that sub shy away from logic and reason. Call them misogynists like that word has any meaning except "It's something that relates to gender which I dislike" but stupid they are not.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:39 AM
3

Yeah, that was fucked up. While I sort of get that he believes that out of ignorance, I just feel that every man should know that unwanted boners are a thing. Has he not been a teen?
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:34 AM
2

I just find this fact depressing in what it says about women. I do get why this makes sense evolutionary, but still.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/13 01:26 AM
3

Then use the moral argument. It's the same form of arguments that make the MRM justifiable in every way.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:25 PM
5

Internalized misogyny dude. Do you even feminist theory?
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:09 PM
1

I love that slideshow. Do they not realize how petty those 50's advertisements looks following that?
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:03 PM
0

Well, misogyny means the hatred of women, so that theory checks out.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 09:57 PM
29

That statement made me realize that I believe men are being systemically held back in education at the same time I believe women pretty much have it as easy as men in the workplace. Well, men have to be a bit more careful about policing their actions as to not appear in any way discriminatory or harassing. It's a weird realization. It's almost as we live in opposite world.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 09:56 PM
1

I fucking love that proto-hipster son of a bitch.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:40 AM
1

Some of the physical violence there doesn't even require physical contact!
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:31 AM
1

1) "it's pretty much common knowledge" is exactly the attitude you're fighting against (and you're fighting a good fight!), so don't depend on the attitude when it benefits you. I'm not following. As for the second point, sure, it might stop a few people from rationalizing the evidence away, but I'm not good at infographics and text. I have trouble when I need to incorporate a lot of text. Thanks for the tips though!
/r/MensRights28/09/13 08:47 PM
2

That's going to be shut down extremely quickly though. It's pretty common knowledge that lesbian relationship have much more domestic violence than gay relationship.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 08:27 PM
1

Illustrator CS6.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:32 PM
1

The layout of this is so much better. Ah, fuck it, I'll re-design this one too.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 06:02 PM
3

Study Summary: 21.45% of couples reported violence. Male-to-female violence was reported in 13.66% of couples, while 18.20% for female-to-male violence. Thus, women are 1.33 times as likely to be violent. (Severe violence only raises this ratio to more than 2x as likely.) Study SUMMARY: Men admission of assault agrees with rates of women claiming to be assaulted. Women admission of assault disagrees with rates of men being assaulted. (ie: women do not admit to their assault, recognize their assa…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:59 PM
1

Yeah, I agree. I like the circle system of the previous one better. I'm not that good at this yet. Maybe I'll remake this one when I get better like I did with the last one.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:38 PM
1

That's definitively part of it, but a fact that I didn't include in my infographic was that females while only 1.33x more likely to engage in violence, are twice as likely to be severely violent.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:36 PM
1

Well, it really depends on the study, and the if the couple is gay. Lesbian couples are much more violent than gay couples.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:16 PM
-1

Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't think it matters though, doesn't look like this one is going to take off.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 04:45 PM
2

I thought it was fairly obvious that it meant. Is it just the fact that I made it, or did you really not get it?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 04:34 PM
2

Did you find a reason?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 02:48 PM
3

Yeah, that is weird. Here's the sources, take a look: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V70%20version%20N3.pdf http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/heady99.htm http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2011001/article/11495-eng.htm*
/r/MensRights28/09/13 02:29 PM
3

Yes, 50% of the sampled violent relationships were reciprocal in nature.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 01:06 PM
3

Thanks, that means a lot. All it is is really just fumbling around until it starts to look coherent. I'm sure professional graphic designers would cringe watching me work!
/r/MensRights28/09/13 11:48 AM
1

Takk! Lagde nettop en ny en, hva synes du om den her? Måtte last opp den andre på nytt for å fikse et par feil. Man blir litt blind til feil etter å ha arbeidet med noe i mange timer i strekk.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 07:29 PM
1

Gjør min del ved å lage infographics. Lagde en i går som nådde forsida, og som jeg datt over tilfedlig på Tumblr med flere tusen notes, så budskapet blir spredt!
/r/MensRights27/09/13 06:28 PM
3

Har vært mye bra for Norge her i det siste!
/r/MensRights27/09/13 01:32 PM
1

I think a lot of people are misinterpreting this. It's not a comment on women as much as it is of societies value of a male life Vs. a female life.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 10:02 AM
1

How are they harming anything? Either you sarcastically think to yourself "What about the menz?", or you reconsider your beliefs.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 04:15 AM
1

Not at all!
/r/MensRights27/09/13 04:08 AM
1

Again, not complaining that women aren't dying at the same rate as men, not that that isn't a problem. The joke lies in the title.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 04:07 AM
1

There was no helping that design.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 04:06 AM
2

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll probably do something exactly like that!
/r/MensRights27/09/13 03:55 AM
1

:D
/r/MensRights27/09/13 03:54 AM
14

US.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 09:20 AM
12

I would love some more ideas!
/r/MensRights26/09/13 09:08 AM
0

Yeah, that was a bit douchey, sorry about that. I'm not even sure anymore, I haven't slept for a while.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 09:06 AM
-7

You don't need to convince me that sexual assault, or regular assault is wrong. And It's not the radicals I have a problem with, it's the governments catering to feminists warped goals. They lobby against male shelters, they lobby against the male pill, they only give funds to women that are raped in Africa, seemingly not caring about the common war-practice of gang-raping men as a tool of demoralization.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 08:19 AM
-5

Yeah, kind of difficult to debate logic where the same fact means the opposite when you need it to. Reminds me of the whole "how many fingers am I holding up" scene from 1984.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:59 AM
4

If I made it all blue it would severely lack in contrast. Also, doesn't "Losers of custody" sound a bit stupid?
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:05 AM
-6

Male privilege is not ever thinking you will get touched (unwanted) sexually at work by strangers or coworkers, that you will be sexually assaulted on your way home after dark or that you will be judged on the way you work based on your gender. Those facts are true and are devastating. I feel like putting male privilege on there cheapens how important they are. Men get touched, only that it's accepted in a "he's a man, he likes it, he wanted it" attitude. Women are allowed to talk about how sexy…
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:03 AM
-6

This has much more the potential to resonate with someone that has grown up force-fed with the idea of men being perpetually privileged. Is it childish? Yeah, but it's equally satisfying. Also, if you think those stats are cherry picking, what privilege does a man have that weighs up for any of those facts? 80% suicide rate, I mean come on, how insane isn't that? I'm considering making an infographic which is a bit more serious at some time, one displaying how the supposed wage-gap has tilted in…
/r/MensRights26/09/13 06:56 AM
26

Yeah, I really should have. Maybe I'll make another one in the future and throw that in there. Maybe I'll make one that focuses more on society, education and how the "pay gap" has done a 180.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 06:02 AM
-4

There's more women than men in the world though, right? It's meant to illustrate disposability, and the idiocy of the theory of the patriarchy. The fact that there are more men working in dangerous jobs is kind of the point of the statistic.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 05:53 AM
-1

Huh?
/r/MensRights26/09/13 05:26 AM
2

No, not really.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 05:07 AM
1

Had to re-upload as I accidentally switched some colors giving off the opposite impression of the numbers. Also, someone asked for the previous version. It's pretty bad.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 04:26 AM
2

Aw shit. I don't know how I missed that. I'll upload a fix.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 04:16 AM
1

http://i.imgur.com/6SekMKg.png
/r/MensRights26/09/13 04:15 AM
1

Thanks. It was mostly done so I wouldn't have one link sticking out over half the graph.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 03:58 AM
-1

I'm sure that for every douche like that there would be two gamers ecstatic to introduce their female friends to games. I know I would.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 09:04 PM
0

That's my point. It has been accepted as how you described it for decades by businessmen and nerds, but it has still been mocked in the mainstream. Only as being a nerd became cool has women flocked to gaming and only as it has become accepted in the mainstream as a legitimate hobby and interested has the government and feminists lobbied to get women into the field. It's just something to think about.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 08:49 PM
1

No problem!
/r/MensRights25/09/13 07:48 PM
3

Yeah. It's funny that women (feminists and the government mainly) only now want "equality" in the tech industry. When men were ridiculed for being interested in it, it was fine. So many double standards.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 07:44 PM
7

Beauty does not exclude complexity. Clothes doesn't limit power. As I said, buy games that are like the games you wan't to be created, and they will.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 07:23 PM
7

Well, first off, it's not bad design by default if the character is sexualized. You can make a game without using sex, sure, but the fact is still that if you include it, you will sell more copies. Imagine Bayonetta with a completely normal 5/10 girl. It wouldn't sell. Call it lazy or whatever, the fact is still that the market dictates what is being made. A character can still be attractive without losing practicality for the situations they're facing. Yes and no. Making a girl sexy while remov…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 06:55 PM
1

While I agree with you OP, I don't mind. I actually hope facebook doesn't delete the pages reported so they show their double standards loudly and clearly.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 06:24 PM
1

Remember that sexy female characters look that way because sex sells, and because the main demographic of almost all games are male. It's not hatred against women, it's an effective sales tactic. You should think about why men being portrayed as chiseled out of marble is a power fantasy, while women being portrayed as sexy is misogyny. You should try to notice how everything that concerns women is negative for the women. It's oppression, the patriarchy, rape culture and objectification. You shou…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 06:21 PM
2

Of the thousands of NPC's I've killed by now, I doubt more than 30% were women. Mostly by punches to the face, or kicks to the groin. I actually feel bad after stabbing someone, the animation is so realistic.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 06:07 PM
3

A real man does X Nope.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 10:39 PM
4

Shit yeah!
/r/MensRights24/09/13 10:23 PM
1

Right. Thinking otherwise is naive and stupid.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 10:22 PM
3

I could quite easily come up with a giant paragraph that is biased and offensive towards men and the activists that interested in their rights but I'm not going to do so because it's hurtful to both causes. Even if you could, It wouldn't matter, there is no government filled with MRA's. Mens Rights isn't filled with dogma like feminism. It has no power currently. It has no real-world ill effects, feminism has lots and lots. You are a dumbfuck because you're swimming in your ignorance. You live i…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 09:00 PM
3

If you all opened your minds, you'd realise that most feminists are just 'female activists' that have adopted that word. Dumbfuck, look at what Sasha wrote, take it all in. We're not frantically promoting the 'End of Women' are we? We're not joyfully throwing young girls under the bus. We're not campaigning to redirect public funding designed to alleviate the impact of the recession away from 'manly jobs'. We're not fighting to stop the funding or establishment of women's domestic violence servi…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:43 PM
4

If that was a temper tantrum, what is the whole of the feminist movement? The best way to change shit is to make people realize they've been duped. I believe in women's rights, not feminism. It's not boys against girls. One of my favorite people ever is girlswriteswhat, or Karen Straughan, Christina Hoff Sommers and Erin Prizzey. You are being immature here. You're doing nothing but deflecting any critique.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:23 PM
5

He's right. The NAFALT defense won't work here. It doesn't matter that your special snowflake style of feminism is all rainbows. The feminism that has actual effects, the feminism that actually does something, has those effects that Shasha is talking about. Feminists and MRA's can't work together in a framework of rape culture and "the patriarchy". Feminist dogma and reality are not compatible.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 05:06 PM
2

I would buy you gold if I had the money.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 05:02 PM
7

"Effectively train moderators to recognize and remove gender-based hate speech." Why does this remind me of a book about a farm that had animals that could talk? Haha, I love it.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 04:55 PM
176

It's only hate speech if there's power + hatespeech. Duh, Feminism 101 dude.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 04:45 PM
3

"it does not appear that incumbent female firefighters are reliant on anaerobic power as operationalized in this study" What does this mean? Do they break down the doors with sheer progressiveness?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:58 AM
3

Nope, only the men luckily.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:59 PM
0

But I never said that I thought right wingers didn't do the same shit. It just does it differently. I'm not denying that. I'm not a rightist. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that this especially applies to young people in my original statement also. You might be right about that last statement though.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:50 PM
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I'm of course making generalizations. You should be familiar with those, right? I know that everyone is different. That doesn't make NAFALT, or in this case NALALT less stupid. Feminism tends to be openly embraced by the liberals, because it is "progressive". Do you deny that leftists have a penchant for political correctness? Do they not throw around meaningless insults like racist or misogynist? How are you supposed to talk about all of politics without making swathing statements by the way? I…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:18 PM
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No, I don't think that's it. It's the effect of being social justice warriors. It's a sense of righteousness. The liberal is enlightened and all that is good, and the opposition is filled with racists and sexists. You are progressive while the rest are holding on to obviously archaic politics. I don't think there's any evil intent behind it, I just think the psychological effects of liberalism can have a way of making someone intellectually dishonest in favor of leftist ideology, and I think tha…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 06:50 PM
3

I would like to see this. I'm 95% sure America would further morph into an even more socialist state using more and more money, while generating less. As Karen Straughan talks about in her video, Fempocalypse!!, a feminized state isn't exactly economically viable.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 06:26 PM
1

I think that an intellectually honest liberal is rare to come by. Try to go into a liberal space and debate feminism. Try to talk about limiting immigration (especially relevant in Norway). You will be labeled a racist. I'm not a huge fan of the right wing either, but the liberals are often a special kind of ignorant.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 06:13 PM
1

Let's extend this then. Do you believe the only reason not more women are in STEM fields is cultural? That they are essentially oppressed out of the fields? It's not about a Forza motorsport V6 toy Vs. a face. It's technical shape Vs. face. This is also not a rule written in iron, but on average there's a strong inclination towards boys looking at the technical shit, and girls looking at a face. You obviously see this mirrored trough the entirety of society, and you're going to go "nope, social …
/r/MensRights23/09/13 05:32 PM
1

Cool! What does it conclude? I bet it's a combination of the two.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 04:39 AM
3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tiJVJ5QRRUE#t=2001 Here's one of the exact points where she just goes "only feels is reals".
/r/MensRights22/09/13 09:22 PM
10

Yeah, that's it! There's many parallels between Ingsoc and Feminism. Especially in the unquestioning adherence to faulty theory and flimsy tenets, and the rhetoric which meaning means whatever it needs to mean.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 09:20 PM
5

It would be really cool if you could make some stats when you get a larger pool of data. Heck, maybe throw in some graphs.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 08:27 PM
23

I once saw a documentary where the host traveled to the US and the UK to talk to evolutionary psychologists and gender researchers. They talked about stuff like this, how gender roles are present moments after birth, how the more progressive a country is, the more people default to their gender roles, how men and women are biologically different etc. The gender and equality researchers and spokespeople in Norway just flat out refused and denied all the claims. They talked about how it they found…
/r/MensRights22/09/13 08:11 PM
6

It`s GTA V dude.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 04:59 PM
-1

Been seeing a lot of stuff from Norway recently! It seems that there is progress being made.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 03:41 PM
2

Wouldn't Newspeak be feminist rhetoric? Admittedly, it would be a shitty newspeak, but still.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 03:40 PM
1

What?
/r/MensRights22/09/13 03:38 PM
8

This game pokes fun at everything from liberals to white trash. I've been playing it for 13 hours straight, and I've yet to see a trace of misogyny. That dude looks like someone who would be offended by something that could be in any way misconstrued as misogyny though.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 02:18 AM
2

Barbarossa has some great stuff on this. His opinion is that women are potentially just as intelligent as men, but lack the rationality. They also lack a drive to understand and discover. If you look at when women flood to previously male dominated areas, you will see that they only do so when that area has become easily accessible and easy to understand. This is especially apparent in gaming.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 05:57 PM
12

I hate how everything is always twisted into women having it worse no matter what it is. It's depressing how bad our society is at critical and rational thought, and how good it is at mental gymnastics.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 05:52 PM
1

Who?
/r/MensRights20/09/13 05:47 PM
11

What are you talking about? It was the feminists who didn't get it.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:25 PM
1

I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't get it at first either. But it makes perfect sense after reading the comments.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:21 PM
2

But the US is socialist? Right? It has a military, tax, social welfare, obamacare ect. If that's not socialism, what is?
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:13 PM
2

It's great, especially in such a feminized country. The truth is though, that it won't change much. Especially with the election just being over. You can't bring up this stuff on a larger platform without being called a misogynist. Most of feminisms power lies in the fact that you can't challenge it.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 09:14 AM
6

So what you're saying is that feminism institutionalized sexism in the workplace? Shocking.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 08:45 AM
1

Stood in firelight, sweltering. Bloodstain on chest like map of violent new continent. Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them scream like babies in night. Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothi…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 08:42 AM
2

That was pretty great, thanks!
/r/MensRights18/09/13 03:54 PM
11

Jeg finner det også sjokkerende at den daværende regjeringen ikke grundig evaluerte om det faktisk var et glasstak før den iverksatte radikale tiltak for å fjerne det. Translated: I also find it shocking that the government in power then didn't thoroughly evaluate if the glass ceiling even was real before it proceeded with radical measures to remove it. I don't find this shocking at all. It does annoy me though. Girls in my class got free trips to our capital, where they stayed in nice hotels an…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 12:00 PM
14

Welcome, try to not get too jaded.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 11:54 AM
9

I just saw that a day ago. I love that dude.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 03:16 PM
1

You have no idea how many hours I've spent watching Stefan, GirlWritesWhat, Barbarossa and Stardusk. Barbarossa in particular is extremely smart and has some amazing videos.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:50 AM
1

Hey, me too! Well, I'm not an aspie (I think) but close enough.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 10:48 AM
3

That's fucked up. The whole Earl situation is just sad, really.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:27 PM
2

Yeah, I think the equality by copying feminists reactions to unwanted attention is not the way to go. People overreact way too much.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:36 AM
3

Hey man, you don't need to school me, I know all that stuff. What I'm saying is that for something to change, someone has to die as a direct cause of this, otherwise it will be masked as something else.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 07:22 PM
7

I've seen that video before. Still makes me mad.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:10 PM
16

I think that's just so utterly ridiculous. It's makes you wonder what people think with. You need to be able to break down doors and to drag grown men out of a burning building. People are probably going to have to burn before we realize this though.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:57 PM
11

Do you have a link?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:56 PM
2

Just because someone has done something wrong, doesn't make their achievements any less. I think most people would agree that Hitler was brilliant, or that H.P Lovecraft was a great author. Both were racists, but that doesn't mean that they weren't great at their stuff.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 11:21 PM
3

Exactly. I find it annoying that even here people jump to defend feminists with NAFALT when it's the feminists with actual power that's fucking up equality. I don't get how people think you can be both a feminist and an MRA.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 03:03 PM
1

Just belt it.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 10:47 PM
2

That's pretty naive. They still don't allow you to challenge their beliefs or be critical of their theories. They still don't allow discussion focusing on mens issues, and they firmly believe in both the patriarchy and rape culture.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 09:03 AM
33

I'm sorry, but not defending yourself when someone is wielding a broken bottle is foolish at best. Him defending himself would have been brave.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 05:57 PM
2

You should just hang up an A4 of "why is this gendered?". Simple and effective.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 07:29 AM
1

Huh, haven't seen that one for a while
/r/MensRights03/09/13 05:48 PM
4

Well, she's more of an anti-feminist than an MRA, but yeah, she's amazing.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 03:48 AM
2

What are you trying to imply? Both genders are capable of being both? Right? I mean, I'm not sure if there's a huge market for men-prostitutes, but still.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 06:47 PM
-1

NAFALT. Also, I wouldn't bet that you would get more reasonable responses if you walked into -let's say - a gender study class, or some other form of academic feminism.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:26 PM
14

I was banned an accused of being a troll with a lot of accounts the first time I asked something in /r/AskFeminists, it was also my last, since I was permabanned.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:25 PM
1

You don't have a link to that album do you?
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:00 PM
3

Well, I think you'll find that the opposite is true. It isn't until people start scratching the surface of feminism that you become, well, not a feminist, or an anti-feminist.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:48 AM
1

You're calling me intellectually redundant while simultaneously talking about nothing else but how dumb I and "my little MRA's" are?
/r/MensRights25/08/13 11:32 PM
1

I don't think you quite understand what we're talking about here though. Feminism is not for equal rights, and has not been for a very long time. Just look at the Duluth-model for example. It is a feminist invention, using patriarchy theory and such, and it wrongly assumes that men are always the perpetrator, which is simply not true. Look at what institutionalized feminism does. It's not equality, far from it.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 10:36 PM
0

Oh? I understand the theory of relativity, that doesn't mean I'll be able to coherently explain it to someone at the drop of a hat. Concepts can sometimes exist in our minds in clouds that makes perfect sense to yourself, but that can be hard to verbalize quickly, eloquently and coherently. That doesn't mean that the concept is faulty or wrong.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 09:59 PM
0

What do you think about things like the white feather campaign? And how do you feel about women being given the right to vote, instead of earning it like men did with conscription. Is that equality? Please don't take offence, that last question have been whirring around in my head without an answer for a while.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 02:31 PM
1

Awesome, this is almost exactly what I believe also.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 07:10 AM
0

Haha, I like that!
/r/MensRights25/08/13 07:07 AM
3

You probably should.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:05 AM
4

There's fisting in 50 shades of grey?
/r/MensRights25/08/13 02:38 AM
1

Thanks, I like that answer. Pushing aside the debate whether men and women can be or even should be completely 100% equal to begin with, I've never felt lesser than men in my life. This is something I'd like to see being discussed more. While I hate inequality, I've always seen men and women as yin and yang, and not two peas in a pod.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 02:03 AM
0

Duluth Model I just googled it and read this: The model focuses solely on the men's use of violence in abusive relationships, rather than on the behavior of all parties concerned. This helps the men to focus on changing their personal behavior in order to be nonviolent in any relationship. Wat
/r/MensRights25/08/13 01:19 AM
11

To most people that is a non-sequitur though. It does nothing to help you make a point or to inform them. Most people would interpret that as you being against equal rights.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 12:48 AM
1

The "Rape is literally the worst possible thing ever, no matter what kind of rape, and only if the perpetrator was male, and the victim female" attitude really bugs me too.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 03:13 AM
4

Still, no harm, no fault, right? Also, the science behind those studies are wobbly at best.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:00 AM
4

I've been called a bigot several times for not being attracted to a certain race. Or rather, certain races.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 01:38 AM
1

Just a reminder to myself to check this out.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 11:40 PM
0

Oh? I love GoT, so I refuse to believe him to be a feminist.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 11:00 PM
2

Right. I don't really think of the word as anything but a buzzword with positive connotations anymore, that's what made me scoff a bit at that, but you're absolutely right.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 03:05 PM
1

How is that progressive? Isn't people saying the exact same thing about the affirmative action tests?
/r/MensRights30/07/13 11:28 AM
1

What did he say?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 09:57 PM
2

I agree. I thought the pendulum had already swung too far for something like this.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 03:52 PM
1

Holy shit, you're absolutely right!
/r/MensRights28/07/13 07:42 PM
3

Haha, holy shit dude. I'm impressed.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 05:40 PM
1

He was saying that their ideology and logic was warped in such a way that refuting arguments was impossible. Especially with doublethink (double-standards/holding contradictory beliefs)
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:31 PM
5

Yes! A lot of what's written in the book rings true even today.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 10:46 AM
2

Yeah, I guess. That's how it works in all areas of life, huh, hadn't thought about it that way before.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 04:07 AM
2

NAWALT only applies when talking about behavioral traits on a wide scale though, right? What you're talking about is almost military; breaking the person down only to rebuild them to your liking. It might work, but it's immoral.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 03:46 AM
4

No. A lot of women like dominant treatment though. It all depends on the person.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 02:20 AM
2

Already did a while ago.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/13 05:12 PM
1

I don't have access to one.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 11:49 PM
1

Jeg er iallefall Norsk. Vet ikke helt hvor mye MRA aktivitet -eller tankesett- det er i norge. Jeg har iallefall ikke sett noe til det.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:44 PM
1

I'll check those out. I'm happy to hear that Sweden has a good MRA community. It's incredible how much feminist ideology is ingrained in the government there.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 04:38 PM
1

Haha, that's not going to work in such a small city. I would if I could.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 04:37 PM
1

Man, thank you so much. Not only did you give me some great tips and starting points, but I've never seen a Norwegian MRA before. I'll have to look trough his blog!
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 12:39 PM
1

Thanks for the tips. I love that last idea!
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 12:36 PM
1

Thanks for the motivation! I've never been compared to a manga character before, but I'll take it as a compliment
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 05:17 AM
1

Thanks for the motivation! I've never been compared to a manga character before, but I'll take it as a compliment
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 05:17 AM
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Not much I can do with about nose. Except successfully pulling off blackface I guess. the part about language is true though. They have strong population of Norwegian heritage in Minnesota, right? Maybe I should take a holiday down there.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 05:03 AM
1

Not much I can do with about nose. Except successfully pulling off blackface I guess. the part about language is true though. They have strong population of Norwegian heritage in Minnesota, right? Maybe I should take a holiday down there.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 05:03 AM
-1

I might be all of that, but I'm not socially blind. I know that If I saw a dude using those techniques, I would see him as a jerk, not an alpha. I would rather be omega than an asshole.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 04:45 AM
0

No, I was saying that I can do cardio now, but lifting has to wait until I can afford a gym membership.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 04:41 AM
1

That's great dude! I definitively need to break down that barrier. And yeah, I would love to try some acid, or shrooms. Anything to break down my perspective so I can balance it without all the bullshit we're taught when growing up.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 04:13 AM
1

Thanks! That's pretty rare, I don't think I've ever seen a dude that looks like me, though people always sat I look like Theon Greyjoy. I'm definitively starting an exercise regime. Oh, and my hair is actually blonde, I just went too far when color-correcting. Also, I'm never going back to black hair, I don't know what I was thinking.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 04:10 AM
7

Damn, thanks dude. Your right on the head with a lot of what you're saying.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 03:58 AM
1

Thanks for the tips. I'm looking for a job, and I'm going to try and find something that will force me into being social. Hopefully exposure therapying the awkwardness away will work. Also, I live in a small town. Is that going to be a problem? If I lived in a big town, I could just test out techniques and practice willy nilly, but where I live now that could be dangerous.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 03:44 AM
1

I'll start right after the holidays, with the cardio at least, I need to get a job before I can join the gym, it's fucking expensive down here.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 03:27 AM
3

Also, shit-tests, how do they work? I've looked around a bit, and I honestly think both the Agree and amplify, and the Evade and re-frame make you seem douchey.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/13 03:26 AM
2

What does progressive even mean? I've never seen it being used as anything other than a positively loaded word.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:19 AM
8

Yeah, I really had a problem with that paragraph. Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:16 AM
-1

All of your criticism are valid, or would be valid if I didn't include the title. I made this more to show that men are not privileged as everyone tend to believe than to enter it into the oppression Olympics.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 12:12 PM
2

I'm going to make another one that's, well, good.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 01:05 AM
1

Haha, yeah, I had some issues finding something that had an impact, but didn't look too fat or grungy.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 01:03 AM
1

I tried to use those sites, but I got confused and annoyed and ended up getting Illustrator and just making everything from scratch.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 01:02 AM
2

Pretty much. Data doesn't stick, visualizations do.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 01:01 AM
2

:(
/r/MensRights21/07/13 01:00 AM
2

No, sorry, the site must have deleted the page or something.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 01:00 AM
2

Thanks for the feedback! The title and M/F label size difference is mostly to draw the eyes to the important bits first, to grab your attention. I'm not to happy with this graphic myself though. I need to find some other way to organize the data and to make it clearer, more interesting and more visually appealing.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 12:57 AM
12

Damn, I knew something was off about that part. I'm pretty lost sometimes without spellcheck to be honest. I'll probably make another one of these taking into account all the criticism and suggestions though, so no worries.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 12:53 AM
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I've never made a infographic before, so constructive criticism would be appreciated!
/r/MensRights20/07/13 06:32 PM
1

Oh, it's going to be hard facts only. It will be objective and cold, which will just make the message stronger.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:24 PM
4

Sure. Composition can be a bit though when theres a lot of text and not a lot of graphical elements. I've been wanting to make something like that for a while, I'll do it when I come home from my holiday. I'll have to practice making privileged stick figures in Illustrator I guess.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:20 AM
7

I've thought about making an infographic like this myself. This one is messy and unorganized.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:07 AM
2

Holy shit, that makes a lot of sense.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:02 AM
6

What's up with the trigger warning? Am I on Tumblr suddenly? What's even the "trigger" here?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/13 03:14 AM
9

So, you're functioning as Ying and Yang instead of whatever feminists are trying to achieve?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/13 03:11 AM
1

"Its only smellz"
/r/MensRights15/07/13 09:19 PM
2

Ugh, I don't know if I can trust this guy. I've seen him talked about around the internet and seen some of his videos. He's normally not more than a pseudo-intellectual.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 05:53 PM
3

Here's a 3min video on the decreasing levels of happiness among women. And here's a study:) It's not that I don't care about women's problems, it's that men seem to have it so much worse currently. I mean, have you seen the statistics? I know it's a MRM website, but it summarizes things nicely, and all the statistics have sources. I think this country would be better off if we just banned marriage. Haha, I completely agree! I'm not sure myself what you mean by "those feminists", but I generally …
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:23 AM
2

Yeah, they may seem odd to you, but these are the feminists that are actually making an impact in the real world (no offense lol). And this impact is generally not good for men. At all. And therefore you get groups like the MRM. The "victim 1% more than the predator" thing is unusual because it wasn't until a few decades ago that our courts stopped telling juries to question rape victims because they were always believed to be liars. Really? I'm not sure if that's true, but if it is, it's turned…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:07 AM
2

That is uniquely important considering these are fields still largely dominated by men. Yes, but that's not because patriarchy's malevolent oppression. Statistics show that the more developed a country is and the more freedom and wealth a country has, the more people will revert to gender roles. Statistics also show that women are less happy now than they were fifty years ago. I'm not necessarily saying that our instinctual gender roles are good in current society, I'm just laying out the facts.…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:19 AM
2

Right, but do you know if that research was peer-reviewed, do you know who conducted it and the reason for conducting it? but can we both agree sexual assault (against men and women) is a highly prevalent problem in our society that we should work to decrease? Of course! But I don't think the answer is campaigns like "don't be that guy". If feminists would just look at the statistics and draw unbiased genderneutral opinions from those numbers, and then use that in order to look for some way to d…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:09 AM
1

"Essentialization" Right, but feminism is an ideology based upon certain theoretical frameworks like patriarchy, rape culture and so on. It starts with a conclusion and draws evidence that conform to that ideology. And if that's not you, why not call yourself a humanitarian or egalitarian? Because if that's not your flavor of feminism, it's not the same feminism being thought in schools or which lobbies the law and media and rules the debate and agenda.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:28 AM
1

I think their points are legitimate. While feminism has some nice ideas it gets warped by ideology. You can't selectively choose evidence that fits with your ideology and look at the world trough a tinted lens and expect your actions to make sense realistically. Why do you [feminists] need to teach young girls maths? They can do that on their own. Hell, in every class I've been in, it was always the girls that excelled at it. I don't think society has any problems with tomboys at all. And finall…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:20 AM
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Neither gender is better than the other. Our differences work together in a beautiful symbiotic way Yes! I've always believed that men and women are different, but in a Yin-Yang kind of way. This documentary from my country (don't worry, it's subtitled) underlines nicely how ignorant we are about this in Scandinavia. We refuse to believe there are biological differences.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:12 AM
5

Sorry for the shitty title by the way. I just stumbled upon that Wikipedia page, and I didn't quite know how to phrase it.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 07:00 PM
4

Why do you think she'll wait that long?
/r/MensRights14/07/13 07:32 AM
3

Great documentary. I'm slightly annoyed by how the representatives for my country chooses to just ignore evidence.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 09:06 PM
1

Oh, ok =)
/r/MensRights11/07/13 11:14 PM
1

From what I've seen, I believe that to be naive. Feminist = equality is simply not realistic. How do you think we could strive for equality with people basing their beliefs on the theory of patriarchy and rape culture? Feminists already have had control and influence. And what have they done for equality? Warped statistics and public perception to further their agenda.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 10:48 PM
1

I doubt that would be possible. I doubt the men's rights movement and feminist ideology can mix and work together at all.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 10:33 PM
2

You could have a villainous adventure, and they might let you in for free!
/r/MensRights11/07/13 01:10 PM
2

Haha, what? That's one of the most ridiculous law suggestions I have ever heard of. How would you even enforce a sitting-pee law? Regarding the lax punishment- We have pretty lax punishments in general, but our recidivism rate is extremely low, so we are doing something right. I think it's the focus on rehabilitation. Just look at our prison-cells: Here's one, Here's the outside, it even has a sound studio, oh, and here's a picture of the kitchen and bathroom
/r/MensRights11/07/13 12:40 AM
3

I wonder how big the feminist movement is here. Especially in the government. I haven't really seen much of it outside public perception and indoctrination. Though, I mostly get my news from reddit, so I would have no idea either way.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 11:33 PM
1

Haha, what? Of course not. She's been a bad influence on both me and my brother.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 11:26 PM
-1

I grew up without a mother. I never wondered "what I had done". When you grow up without a mother, it seems perfectly natural. Of course, later I decided to move in with my mother, which may or may not have fucked me up.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 11:07 PM
1

Do you have a link? I love listening to this stuff when I'm playing games and such. It probably isn't healthy for me, but whatever.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 11:53 PM
3

Yeah. A lot of it causes some dissonance, but most of it is the hard truth.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 12:10 PM
13

Also, http://www.youtube.com/user/barbarossaaaa He makes really good videos. Maybe a bit more in the MGTOW direction, but still really interesting stuff.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 04:59 AM
0

What are you supposed to do in 14 days? That's retarded.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:54 PM
2

I don't know what to tell you man. I don't like what I see over there myself.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:17 PM
1

Right. I've seen many-a thumbnail of nails trough tits, syringes, brutal as fuck whippings etc. Which is what I consider extreme, too extreme for me at least.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 09:44 PM
1

Same. It's getting to the point where it's starting to seep into my emotional well being.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 08:20 PM
3

That's fucked up. I find it weird that someone would go to a televised therapy session like that though, especially for something so fucked up.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 08:19 PM
8

I'm a bit confused about MGTOW. I've mostly learned about it watching bar bar and Stardusk, both of which seem like extremely intelligent guys, and both being brutally honest, but never disrespecting.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 06:43 PM
4

Here's one with Sasha Grey. Enjoy ;) http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1814307660
/r/MensRights13/06/13 06:38 PM
1

"Both groups have this idea that they've stumbled onto a paradigm-shifting revelation about how the world really works and everyone who isn't lock-step in line with their way of thinking is deluded." Ouch.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 06:02 PM
2

Yeah, that stoicism can be dangerous sometimes. I think that will improve with men starting to accept emotions instead of thoughing (I have no idea on how to spell that word) everything out. Also, I have a spot on one of my balls, should I be worried about that?
/r/MensRights13/06/13 03:40 PM
1

Well, being able to choose your race in FPS games would be cool. I would be the blackest of black and just hide in shadows all day.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 03:34 PM
7

Kink.com is extreme BDSM? Oh wow, I'm desensitized as fuck.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 03:19 PM
4

Yeah, plus, it's not like bringing another human being into the world is supposed to be a 100% responsibility free. A woman has choices, if she decides to keep it, that's something she'll have to deal with.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 03:14 PM
1

Well, fine, let's talk hard facts. How do you explain male suicide rates being 3.5-7 times high for men and boys compared to that of their female counterpart? Also, can you please show me how women "plainly don't have equality"? I feel like this is a bit of a one sided debate. The people portraying this information to the mainstream are on a whole other level than me. I'm not prepared, I'm simply stating what I've learned through reading and watching a lot of videos. I don't have sources because…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 11:10 PM
1

Are you serious, you're going to brush all that away, and just fall back on "meh, they don't convict de rapists". What the fuck man. It's hard to find statistics on misandry, it's only just recently the MRM has gained real traction in the mainstream. I just got into this a few months ago, and I'm not the best at finding statistics and studies. Have you watched any of Girlwriteswhat's videos? The videos I've linked you to are from a short-haired sweet bisexual lady, so it's not some bitter man, s…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 10:48 PM
1

Disclaimer :Well, I didn't expect to write this much. Please don't just brush over it because of the length though, I would like to hear your response. And that's a false dichotomy. It's bullshit. Feminism is an ism, and stands for so much more than just equality. I read a lot about feminism, MRA and MGTOW, and I rarely bookmark shit, but here's anecdotal evidence. And warping statistics might have been going overboard, but they're misrepresenting statistics, in the same way politicians often to…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:36 PM
1

I don't follow that definition. That implies that you are either a feminist or a misogynist. Nonetheless, It's the feminists that warp statistics, and try to blacklist researchers in academia saying anything to the contrary. I'm pro-equal rights, and I'm anti-feminist. To be honest I feel that the MRA - using your definition - are better feminists that most feminists. You know how feminists say "Male privilege is feeling safe when walking home at night", well, actually, men are more likely to be…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 08:28 PM
1

Thanks. I did actually see some statistics yesterday, refuting feminists saying that 1/4 of women will get raped or sexually assaulted before they finish college, where three american colleges had been surveyed, and the results said that 1 in around 1860 will be sexually assaulted or raped before finishing college. The group was deleted though, because it facebook has been pressured into deleting everything that can be seen as misogynistic, and is being consulted by feminists in deciding what is…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:47 PM
1

A trustworthy general consensus, a peer reviewed study or something similar would be enough for me. Your testimony, to me at least, seems to have little to do with society and more to do with closed group-dynamics. The thing that annoys me with rape jokes is that we're allowed to make jokes about everything from diddling kids to brutally murdering people, but once rape gets brought up, you're a horrible person. The whole thing about humor is that it should be easier to talk about hard subjects w…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 10:26 AM
1

Practically no. But for some strange reason, I still care, and I'm still annoyed by not knowing what's right. Plus, I'm annoyed by everyone saying you can't make rape jokes.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:59 AM
1

No.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:53 AM
1

Huh. Well, honestly I don't know what to believe. Both sides are saying different shit, and I'm not entirely sure what to believe.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 09:10 AM
1

Seems like a fun bunch.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 03:16 AM
1

Again though, the military as a whole does not condone rape. For this rape culture of yours to work, the rapist must must be extremely lucky with who discovers the rape, and the victim extremely unlucky.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 02:54 AM
1

Huh, well, I can't say I've ever experience anything even remotely like that. What's your opinion on rape-jokes?
/r/MensRights10/06/13 02:41 AM
1

Well, the situation of rape legally and socially in society today is much more than a condensation, and more a blatant mis-classification and an act of demonization. Also, I did see the whole video, but and that was the impression I got.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 02:35 AM
2

What causes this? I've yet to see a case of widespread victim shaming. Sure, in closed communities where a scandal might fuck everything up, I can see why people would hide something like a rape, or like in the Jerry Sandusky case, where it was kept hidden for an extended period of time. I don't see this as a cultural thing though, because that would imply that the culture we live in condones this behavior, and that's false.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 07:59 PM
5

Isn't rape culture in the west more of a strawman though? I've yet to see someone shaming a rape victim not be publicly hated. I've yet to see a rapist, guilty or not, not be hated.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 06:32 PM
1

Can you boil down his message for me then?
/r/MensRights09/06/13 06:07 PM
3

It's a fucking risky thing to start doing though. Control can quickly deteriorate, no matter how much you felt that "Nah, I'm not gonna get addicted, I'm stronger than that".
/r/MensRights09/06/13 03:20 PM
2

Doesn't what he's saying essentially boil down to "Train your sons not the be sexual assaulters, also, make them cater to women"
/r/MensRights09/06/13 03:12 PM
1

Ditto!
/r/MensRights08/06/13 09:58 PM
2

Wait, seriously?
/r/MensRights08/06/13 08:52 PM
6

I am Norwegian.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 08:29 PM
15

Yeah, the fact that this shit is possible is disgusting, but that doesn't mean we can't joke about it. Just like everything else, you should be able to joke about it.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 05:04 PM
3

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDYAVROaIcs girlwriteswhat clearly defines feminism while debating wheter feminism is hate.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 06:54 PM
1

I think there is in certain aspects. But there's still the same amount, or at least a similar amount of institutionalized misandry.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:53 PM
1

I could very well be wrong, I'm new to a lot of this :)
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:52 PM
2

Using might be the wrong word, but I got the impression that a lot of the MGTOW, and /r/TheRedPill people has stopped having relationships with women. I completely understand not marrying in this day and age though. I'm not sure if masculinity is hated though. I mean, feminists hate it, people who follow feminist doctrine hate it, but I don't see a lot of hate for it in my daily life. Though, the idea of masculinity has shifted significantly from what it used to be.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:41 PM
2

Yeah. I feel that a lot of what they're saying is depressingly true, but at the same time, accepting that truth, and doing like them; only "using" females for sex, almost seems even more depressing.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:22 PM
1

A lot of what they are saying makes a lot of sense though, and it's easy to see this shit all around us. Sure, I agree that their whole stance on tax is pretty silly, but their sociological statements are pretty hard to combat. And I really like the "fuck it" attitude, it's unfiltered statements, harsh truths, and I prefer that a million times over sugarcoating.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:19 PM
5

I don't really like that place. There's something eerie about it. Plus, I'm interested in hearing about your guys views in this, even though it's not something you usually talk about.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 09:55 PM
1

Is that a real poster?
/r/MensRights02/06/13 05:53 PM
2

Masters of debate right here, eh?
/r/MensRights22/05/13 12:37 AM
4

I'm having trouble following your reasoning. It's bad because it is bad, and therefore it's illegal? A+A=B?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 11:13 PM
1

Why is that fucking awful? If they are both consenting, and they both enjoy and learn from the experience, what's so wrong with it?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 10:47 PM
2

This makes me so mad. Fuck everything about this shit. Seriously.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 09:42 AM
2

The whole Earl Silverman thing is just so sad. I almost cried during the AVFM radio show where they talked about it.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 09:17 PM
2

I don't get it. It's not funny, and I can't see the logic or reasoning behind the poster.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 10:23 AM
10

I've yet to notice any feminism. I've not met a single one of them, though, there was an leadership-training course for the females in our class. They got to travel, stay at a nice hotel, eat nice food, and get business training. Guess what the men got? Nothing. Still get's me somewhat pissed off.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 03:36 PM
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Not with that font it wont.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 01:09 PM
2

What does "outrage too horrible even to think of" even mean?
/r/MensRights10/03/13 12:37 AM
-1

"Somebody needs to be held accountable". Oh wow.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 09:48 AM
3

I honestly don't understand their logic. Where are they seeing all this rape? How can they go outside and look at every male as a rapist?
/r/MensRights16/01/13 10:41 AM
3

Something similar happened at my school, where the girls got to go to our capital - for free - for training how to become a business leader/boss. Apparently, men inherently know how to be a successful boss.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 06:25 AM
3

That was great. I wonder how we got to a point where being offended carries any weight of importance.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 11:51 AM
10

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3cu2v5LnT1r7qpeho1_500.jpg I don't know how to link shit, but here's Stephen Fry's opinion on being offended.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 08:14 AM
2

But Galadriel is one of the most powerful people in all of Middle Earth. If I remember correctly, she's old enough to be Arwen's great-great-great grandmother.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 05:55 AM
3

I would be up for selling my virginity for 3K
/r/MensRights01/01/13 05:52 AM
2

I wouldn't recommend doing that if you're using in-ear headphones. From what I've read, tinnitus is fucking horrible.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 03:48 AM
6

She did something extremely despicable. Wanting to spit her in the face is a perfectly reasonable reaction. We don't hate women, we hate horrible people.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 03:43 AM
6

The fact that you have to jump trough this many hoops just to get someone out of your house is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:46 AM
6

How does that even work? I mean, anyone with a bit of logic would realize that that is really fucked up. All of my rage.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:44 AM
1

By enlightenment trough the internet. I'm sure that recent AMA changed a lot of peoples mind on the matter.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:52 PM
2

In this day and age, that argument is pretty moot though. We have condoms, pills, and if those fail, more pills. If you don't want a baby today, you don't have to have it.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:54 PM
2

I don't think it's mere coincidence. We good prisons here. No life penalty, the people who come in, rarely come back, good quality of living etc.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:49 PM
1

I don't know man. My teacher is lesbian, not not at all a feminist. She even wrote an essay about the emasculation of men in recent years in the media, and about how gender roles have changed. I can't recall ever encountering anyone spewing this "all men are rapist pigs" propaganda.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 02:08 AM
5

Yeah. I recently read an AMA about a dude being in an incestuous relationship with his sister. Both consenting, both enjoying each other immensely. To be honest, I envy the guy. I don't have a sister myself so it might have been incredibly disgusting to me, I don't know. But they both came out if it happy, so what's the big deal?
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:17 PM
2

I'm so glad I've never encountered any feminism in my country. This inherently illogical bullshit enrages me. Can't we all just discuss shit as adults?
/r/MensRights19/12/12 10:55 PM
11

I fucking hate society. Portray incest/pedophilia/rape as anything other than the worst thing in the world, you're instantly labeled as one, or more of these. It's not black and white, it's fucking relative. The blatant double morals are disgusting.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 10:49 PM
6

If you start going down that road, you'll quickly realize that we're all going to die, so what's the point anyway? Dead people lose the ability to enjoy, feel, cry, drink their favorite beverage, love, buttsex, watch their favorite show etc. We living can do all that, and we have the ability to move on.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 12:14 AM
10

Why would I care if my balls were gone? As long as I got testosterone shot or something I would be fine. Actually, it would remove my greatest weak spot. Another plus is that I fucking hate kids.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 12:11 AM
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