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I tried flirting with all of them, because flirting is a fun way to have a conversation. Speaking to women isn't about just one thing though. They're people, just like us talking right now. It's experience and it's exposure. It's a chance to learn what women like and do not like, especially if you lack experience talking to them. I did. At first, had no clue what things I would say that wasn't attractive. Bit by bit I learned and bit by bit I started to choose what things I would say or keep to …
/r/seduction01/07/22 11:43 AM
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Anywhere and everywhere. If I'm out about, then it was in person. Otherwise talking to women online. It all helps your understanding of women, because even online you have to say the right things the right way to maintain women's interest.
/r/seduction28/06/22 10:39 PM
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This post is 4 years old. I have a son and I've banged your mom, so maybe it's you, boy.
/r/seduction13/05/22 06:56 PM
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The same way I make peace with the heat death of the universe. If you take me out of the equation, then it doesn't matter. I'm inferior to no one, unless you get out a ruler. Or a vocal quality analyzer. Or a high bar jump. Or whatever. If I just live though? I'm not inferior. I'm just an animal.
/r/seduction06/03/22 01:51 PM
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I just calmly and respectfully said what needed to be said. He apologized and that was that. I didn't feel any negativity towards him, he just responded to natural feelings that my wife makes men feel. So there was no beef or anything, we were actually friends to begin with so it was an easy conversation. I've had to tell three guys at a bus stop to leave my wife and our girlfriend alone. That wasn't as easy of a conversation to have, but it was just as simple. I walked right up to the biggest o…
/r/seduction27/12/21 02:27 PM
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It's a cop out for me to say, "You have a flawed antecedent, so you have a flawed conclusion" rather than explaining to you fully the bigger picture you're missing. The bigger picture is that if you can learn to attack yourself, you can also learn to not attack yourself. Your argument was, "We've learned to attack ourselves, therefore we cannot learn to unlearn it." which is a flawed argument.
/r/seduction30/10/21 03:48 AM
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"I see your your point, but that's for a cop out or a contradiction" Look, you got that part wrong entirely. I meant that me pointing out your contradiction was my cop out, because it as too easy to point out the flaw in your argument. It absolutely is a contradiction and it was absolutely a cop out on my part to simply point that out. It was also a cop out to just let you know that you don't understand what I said. You even said so in this next post of yours. So what exactly are you upset with …
/r/seduction30/10/21 03:22 AM
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I don't think you entirely understand my first comment and I don't think you understand my second comment either, but I was pretty clear for both. So I just have to wish you good luck. If you don't understand my arguments, then I can't keep discussing your arguments with you.
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:59 AM
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I hate to point this out, because it seems like a cop out, but you've contradicted yourself. If you acknowledge the contradiction, then the conclusion doesn't follow the antecedent. How does one learn helplessness to auto-abuse, if changing your mindset of your own volition is not possible?
/r/seduction29/10/21 09:37 PM
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Sure, but I didn't argue that at all. Do you understand the only point that I argued? It's less logical. Less safe. That's it. I have absolutely no horse in the race besides that. That's my argument. My only argument.
/r/seduction28/06/21 12:09 AM
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Fair enough, it just seemed reductive for no reason. So the only reason I could come up with was that you felt attacked and tried to be reductive. I'm not sure why else you'd bring up my ability with women at all. Why else, ya know? What did it serve in that comment for you?
/r/seduction28/06/21 12:08 AM
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Totally hear you. But if safe and logical is in your toolbox for attracting women, well, I bid you good luck. Thanks, buddy. Since I do things differently and avoid work interactions with women, my toolbox must be small. I must need good luck. I'm not sure you heard me at all. I'm of the belief that when it comes to mutual attraction, I don't really care so much about the setting, blahblahblah. Major reason so many men have problems with blahblahblah Those "awkward" moments at work after a faile…
/r/seduction27/06/21 09:42 PM
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I literally don't get how to appear uninterested in a woman while simultaneously being interested. That's because you complicate things. If you simplify it, it's really simple. I feel like if I'm too friendly I'll get friendzoned Only if you don't try to touch her occasionally. Friends don't escalate their physicality and intimacy...but they do everything else. So be as friendly as you like. But also be.... too flirty I'll make it obvious. Because all you need is plausible deniability. All you h…
/r/seduction27/06/21 09:24 PM
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I get what you're saying, but logically the other person's advice makes sense and yours makes slightly less. Realistically, you're right in plenty of scenarios and realistically you're way, way, way wrong in a few. You'd be so wrong that it could end a person's chosen life prospects and possibly burn personal relationships outside of professional. I don't think any of that matters though, because there's no laws about this, because it's all about personal choice. You do you and I don't think any…
/r/seduction27/06/21 09:00 PM
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I've heard " you're great but I just don't see you that way" more times then I can count. I'm just getting tired of hearing it You shouldn't be hearing it, because that's not how relationships actually begin. Relationships are organic and they just exist, but when you try to label it you call to question its existence. When two people meet, their relationship begins. Later on, you try to define it for the benefit of yourself and others, so that you know how to act and so do others. In regards to…
/r/seduction26/06/21 03:29 PM
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Wearing nice clothes isn't about the cost of the clothing either. Spend money on your accessories and shoes, but make sure all your clothes fit. Even if you're chunky, or skinny, bad fit makes all clothing look bad. I shop at goodwill, so I pay $3-6 for items and don't give a flying fuck if they get ruined, as long as I get to look good a few times. An entire outfit can cost me $40 and I look great in it. My wardrobe changes often, too. My style changes regularly. Macklemore knows what's up.
/r/seduction24/06/21 06:13 PM
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gonna set up a date and stay off text messages To go against the subs advice?
/r/seduction18/06/21 10:13 PM
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I mean, you had an interaction with the girl beforehand and weren't creepy. Why does this go against this "sub's advice"? Who told you not to act normal in normal situations? Genuinely not my understanding of all the literature out there, but I've only been reading things here for like 8-9 years and contributing for 7 or so. So perhaps I'm not in the same circles you find yourself in here.
/r/seduction18/06/21 09:10 PM
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She was nervous, the end.
/r/seduction18/06/21 08:26 PM
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Quit saying simp if you want to be taken seriously.
/r/seduction18/06/21 01:19 PM
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In terms of just fucking random people, yes. If you're having relationships lasting more than 3 dates, then no. You'll find plenty of women that take things slow, but still take steps forward. This obviously flies in the face of your post here, so the generalization doesn't really work.
/r/seduction16/06/21 01:56 PM
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exhausted every chance. So...you're saying there's still a chance...
/r/seduction16/06/21 01:49 PM
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I guess that's why they say "don't ask fish for advice on catching fish, ask a fisherman". This is ironic, because I believe I'm the person who has proliferated this saying in the seddit community. I don't think this particular woman is entirely off base and besides her comments about headphones, everything else is fine. Its general enough advice that's not directly related to only herself specifically.
/r/seduction14/06/21 01:46 PM
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That isn't the message I received, but then again I read entire post and chose not to cherry pick the few things I did not like.
/r/seduction14/06/21 01:18 PM
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I don't think that guy, or Zeus, will have stable healthy relationships, but I'm not the one bringing gods and goddesses into a dating discussion. Just pointing out how "gods" actually act towards "goddesses" in every story ever.
/r/seduction12/06/21 12:27 PM
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You think Zeus coddled his chicks? Weird.
/r/seduction11/06/21 01:38 PM
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There are subs put together by more serious people that are actually actively working on improving "seduction" or "pickup" whatever you wanna label it. You would need to find the organizers of those particular subs. I'm out of the loop nowadays, since I'm not active.
/r/seduction10/06/21 12:28 PM
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Nothing, just an observation 7 years in the making.
/r/seduction10/06/21 02:48 AM
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Good job, but stop comparing yourself to anyone, but who you were yesterday.
/r/seduction09/06/21 03:34 PM
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That's because the popularity of the sub has increased so much that it's inundated with pop culture and pop beliefs now. In the larger society, men who aren't successful with women are ridiculed. Now that this sub is a majority of people that don't really belong here, all of the men and women who would benefit are left high and dry. They can no longer be safe here to be bad at social interaction. The foundation of this sub is now the butt of jokes. The creators ridiculed. The followers shunned. …
/r/seduction09/06/21 03:30 PM
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You should be eating three cheeseburgers and a milkshake if you're skinny as fuck.
/r/seduction09/06/21 03:49 AM
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Bro, this is wrong. Skinny dudes don't need to avoid carbs. Look at it from a body builder's bulk/cut standpoint. Their protein requirements remain the same during bulk or cut. Here's arbitrary numbers to make the point. Let's say you weigh 200lbs, you eat 200g protein and eat the rest as fat/carbs. If you're maintaining, let's say 2000 calories. You eat 200g protein and then you have 1200 calories of fat/carbs to go. If you're bulking, let's say 3000 calories. You eat 200g protein and then you …
/r/seduction09/06/21 03:45 AM
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I'm sorry, but that's only ignorance talking. I've been interested in fitness long enough to see success story after success story and also failure story after failure story. Every single person that continues lifting weights and learning about proper diet succeeds. Every single person that stops fails. You stopped and so you failed. Start again and succeed or just always be that failure, that's fine. I weighed 330+ pounds 11 years ago and I've weighed 200lbs for a decade now. I lost 110lbs in o…
/r/seduction09/06/21 03:26 AM
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And lift heavy ass weights every other day.
/r/seduction08/06/21 03:46 PM
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No. He's just a new guy with a bad idea.
/r/seduction02/06/21 07:46 PM
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You cannot really build attraction over text Glad you said this early so that I could just stop reading. This is absolutely false. I can only assume everything else you've said is wrong, if it builds on that as a premise.
/r/seduction02/06/21 07:45 PM
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You really are crazy. Why would I click anything that you've posted? Do you think I trust you or something? I thought I made it clear in my other post....
/r/seduction01/06/21 04:25 PM
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Dude, women are people. You know that right? They make the same choices men make. They're not children, they're not weaklings, they are equals. Bro....You need to see a therapist.
/r/seduction01/06/21 03:32 PM
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If a woman really likes me, I can see how much attention she's giving me, her enthusiasm and that's how I know if a woman likes me. No, that's just what you perceive as a woman liking you and so that's to what you respond. You do not know every woman. You do not know every woman's way of acting when she's interested. You do not know every woman's background, creed, beliefs, etc that cause them to act or not act in certain ways, regardless of who they like. I think this is the most wholesome way …
/r/seduction01/06/21 03:28 PM
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Women always get downvoted here. I've been here like... 6-7 years and I have too ask, what the fuck are you talking about? Bad advice is down voted. It has nothing to do with the gender gave it.
/r/seduction26/05/21 01:47 AM
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You've got it all wrong. You never feel at ease around girls that you like. You eventually learn that you will feel things and must do the opposite of what you feel. You may feel like running away from a girl, but there's a time when you realize you must kiss her instead. Then for the rest of your time with her, you'll constantly want to do the wrong thing and in order to grow, you will have to choose the right thing instead. Feelings just happen. Actions do not. Actions are chosen and you can s…
/r/seduction26/05/21 12:10 AM
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i'm too shy to make eye contact with a girl No, you choose to not look girls in the eye. You're not too shy, that's just your excuse. Quit making that choice and then suddenly you'll be a shy guy that still looks at girls eyes. i know this is weird and probably stupid No, you're literally like ever other guy until they get laid a couple times and chill the fuck out.
/r/seduction25/05/21 10:49 PM
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Yes, I agree with all of that. Not sure if this is in tone with the sub, but hopefully a little bit helpful. Yes, I try to tell straight cis-women to think of posting here without giving men specific advice about "how to XYZ with women", because women typically aren't fully honest with even themselves about what they go for in men. So you cannot ask of them to be honest to you about what will work on her. Unless you're lesbian, or bisexual, and have courted a woman, then you really cannot relate…
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:58 PM
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There are muscles around your eyes that move during a smile. If those muscles do not move when you smile, then you look like a sociopath. Most people smile with their eyes when they smile. Most people that don't aren't here reading this, because they're sociopathic or psychopathic and don't give a flying fuck about things like this. They know exactly how to act like a lizard in this society.
/r/seduction24/05/21 01:20 PM
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So what? So who cares if a signal was misread, isn't the interaction happening exactly as it should? A guy thought you were interested and a short conversation later he can discover that he should move on. Oh no, horrible.
/r/seduction24/05/21 01:16 PM
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Many women actually initiate romantic interaction, but men typically understand the world through a self-centered lense. Indicators of interest are the term we use here in the community. There's also indicators of disinterest. You should be aware of both things and watch for these signals. They're not universal to all women, but they're a safe enough bet that you can at least approach to find out if there's interest. You have a hunch, then you just go follow-up. If you're wrong, you move on. Men…
/r/seduction24/05/21 01:14 PM
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Get out of here if you're not here to learn, because the bullshit you're letting other newbs read is just fuckin wrong.
/r/seduction24/05/21 01:04 PM
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What is this immature bullshit...? 900 up votes, fucking hell, this sub is over.
/r/seduction18/05/21 12:04 AM
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You call that balance? Yolo, I guess, you fuckin maniac.
/r/seduction18/05/21 12:01 AM
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But, this is how I think at 23. When I'm 33, will I regret not getting all the sex I can? Will I look back and kick myself for not hooking up as much as possible? Naw, cuz at 33 you'll be about 10x more attractive to like 10x more women.
/r/seduction07/05/21 09:50 PM
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Low status would be attaching yourself to a female partner for the sole purpose of attempting increased status. Anything that you feel insecure about is a weakness. Are you insecure about being single? Then others can use it against you, because that has power over you. They can just say, "Haha ur single?!" and magically all of your confidence is gone and you're a stuttering mess. Are you insecure about your little tummy pouch poking out? Same deal, someone on the internet can say, "Lol tummy po…
/r/seduction02/05/21 02:03 PM
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Most of this sub are normal ass average dudes and women. There's over a half a million people subbed nowadays. I'm sure the sample size is pretty scattered up.
/r/seduction02/05/21 12:58 PM
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This post was created by a bot...
/r/seduction01/05/21 01:33 PM
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So? It's not an expensive mistake to get out of the way.
/r/seduction28/04/21 01:05 PM
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I've banged a lot more girls than you Hey, I totally believe you, son. and having seen what you look like, the quality is of a much higher standard than you could get too, numb-nuts ;) Lol okay, so now you've seen what I look like and you're pointlessly threatened by how ridiculous fucking handsome I am. It's fine if you're attracted to me now, it happens.
/r/seduction26/04/21 07:00 PM
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Lol I'm clueless and you can't remember No 'game' can force attraction in a girl. It's why all of these 'pro PUA's have to play extreme numbers game and get rejected just as much as the next guy. ...You said that? You're so full of shit. How many fuckin girls have you even spoken to you little shit? You know what's worse than a pickup artist? A bullshit artist. Again, you. You don't know about about "game" and yet here you are spitting bullshit about it. Lol YOU'RE clueless. :)
/r/seduction26/04/21 04:20 PM
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I see. So you've failed with a couple of girls using "push pull routines" and so you're an expert on all of seduction? You sound like a jaded dude that got ripped off by some guru promising you something or other at a seminar. Did that happen? Otherwise, I can't see why you would argue that a person cannot learn social skills, cannot learn presentation, cannot learn leadership qualities, and cannot learn charismatic interaction. Otherwise, I cannot see how you would argue that "game" isn't a lea…
/r/seduction26/04/21 02:17 PM
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No. I've been doing this for ten years. I started out unsuccessfully and ended up successful. What are your experiences? Why do you think the bullshit that you just said that got up votes by ignorant people who know no better than you? Do you know why it's a numbers game? Not because it takes many numbers to land on the correct one. It's because you have to actually practice, like anything in life. You talk to fifty girls and expect one to work out, you call that a numbers game. I talk to fifty …
/r/seduction26/04/21 01:12 PM
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Why are you here on this sub and wrong and sharing your wrong opinion? If you don't understand the material, then leave, but don't spread misinformation.
/r/seduction26/04/21 12:52 PM
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I understand what point you're trying to make regarding defining words, but that's not how language works. I've already explained to you my understanding of the word and it's personal, just like your understanding of the word is personal. Your lexicon is your personal vocabulary and understanding of this particular language we're using. I've explained to you how my usage of the word can be applied. You've also explained yours. That's communication and we've all established our lexicon, as well a…
/r/seduction20/04/21 02:16 PM
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We use words to describe things in the world. Not all of us prefer words used certain ways, etc and can contain various definitions in our personal lexicon. Push/pull to me doesn't necessarily require a verbal exchange, but it often will be something like you mentioned. There are times where nonverbal actions have the same cause and effect as push/pull, so why call it anything else? That's my opinion and I've been studying seduction for ten years. I also have a degree in applied linguistics, so …
/r/seduction20/04/21 12:36 PM
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You are looking for yes girls and you are to be okay with all no girls. Because of the implication. Do you think that every woman in the world that you do not find attractive should be upset and take it personally? Should billions of women take it badly that you aren't into them? No, they don't give a flying fuck lol There's some women out there though that do care what you think of them. They do want you to like them. They do enjoy it when you display that to them. That girl you spoke to didn't…
/r/seduction19/04/21 04:39 PM
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Has anyone ever told you that you're allowed to feel everything you feel? Have you ever felt permitted to feel everything? Do you even allow yourself to feel everything, or do you try to shut some shit off? You know what you aren't allowed to do? Act however you want and do whatever you want. Society holds you accountable for your actions and so do you. The problem is between the relationship our feelings have over our actions. Some feelings we give complete freedom to guide our actions and othe…
/r/seduction12/04/21 01:35 PM
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And yet I'm somehow not dominant any longer if I don't immediately destroy those men? You are not making any headway in your argument here. Dominance is the catalyst for certain actions, it isn't the actions itself. So again, conflict is moot.
/r/seduction04/04/21 12:13 PM
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That doesn't matter one bit. The man is still a dominant man after the encounter, whether he chooses to physically escalate or not. A man is still dominant whether he submits to someone, too. It's not an all or nothing thing. Unless you're a total sociopath, then you're not going to be what you are getting at as a dominant man. Like I said before though, your point about some shit bag assaulting your woman isn't about a dominant man. It's still about the assault, sociopath, etc. Dominant men are…
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:21 AM
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I agree that you have missed the point of the post, because you disagreed and then went on and on in agreement the entire time. So you do fully understand what I said, you've just disagreed with the message. That's fine. Regarding this part: If someone comes up and slaps your girlfriend on the ass and calls you a cunt then you basically have to react in some way. You can't pretend it didn't happen because then you will submit to the attack in the eyes of everyone, including your gf. This has not…
/r/seduction03/04/21 02:46 PM
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It's the quintessence of dominance to be dominant without conflict. Should you have to fight your entire life to prove that you can win? Or should there be a point where you don't have to prove anything any longer? Okay, so if you've got nothing to prove, why can't you just get to that point faster? Is dominance something someone can give you? Is dominance something someone can take away? Does dominance belong to you, or does it belong to everyone else? If you feel dominant, but another person s…
/r/seduction03/04/21 01:38 PM
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Tl;dr at the bottom. The oldtimer is correct. Hopefully the "oldtimer" isn't over 38 years old. Ha. Anyways, I've been with my wife about 18 years. Disclaimer though, I haven't been monogamous for around ten of those years. I've been "studying seduction" just as long. I've been posting here for 6 of those years! When it comes to any woman, any relationship that I have, my wife included, then I have a responsibility to make each woman happy with what I want. They each need to decide that what I'v…
/r/seduction02/04/21 03:37 PM
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Lol @ this mid 20s cynicism ass shit
/r/seduction31/03/21 04:08 PM
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It's mom's advice and if mom ever picked up chicks, then she wouldn't be telling her son to "be yourself".
/r/seduction28/03/21 05:12 PM
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No, it needs to be said because the information this sub has to offer hasn't changed in the 6-7 years I've been here. The only thing that's changed is the sub went from 50,000 people to 500,000 people. It went from a daily discussion where people understood most of the discussion to a daily discussion where mainstream has brought in a flow of absolute seduction/pickup morons, newbies, and people that think they know what they're talking about. Saying things like "Be yourself" has long been estab…
/r/seduction28/03/21 05:02 PM
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Be yourself, it’ll work somehow, someway. Well, be yourself after you become a good self, don't just be a cunt.
/r/seduction28/03/21 12:27 PM
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Oh? You've gone through it all or are you just blowing smoke out your ass? You been ugly? You been hot as fuck? You been shit with girls? You've become great with girls? You're wrong.
/r/seduction26/03/21 02:44 PM
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Well, you've added a lot of conjecture about what you might do, might want, etc and that's an issue when discussing seduction with women, because what they say they want and what they actually go for are almost always entirely different. And back to the point about having to find a guy physically attractive. You're still missing the point. You might see a guy that you think is physically attractive, but he has no clue he's attractive to you. So he just does not talk to you. He does that to every…
/r/seduction26/03/21 11:59 AM
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There's more to it then just looks though, you know that. Men here are so inexperienced with women, they just assume you need to be a hot guy to succeed with women. Problem is tons of hot guys are reading this sub and can't get laid. A ton of guys reading this sub think they're ugly, when they're not. I was a fat, smelly, long hair, shitty clothes, floppy shoes, etc. I lost 110lbs, worked on my style, hair, hygiene. Still didn't succeed with women lol even women that made it easy for me I'd stil…
/r/seduction26/03/21 12:35 AM
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I agree with most of this and actual cold approach was left behind a long time ago for me, yes. Your way of doing things is much closer to my way of doing things. No...not during the pandemic, I'm on immunosuppressants. Women can wait until my family and I am safe lol
/r/seduction26/03/21 12:19 AM
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I have done cold approach, day game, night game, online dating, social group dating, etc. I've gone through most aspects of game. Sorry if I misrepresented that. The only thing I have never done is charged someone for my experience in game. I've never become a guru. I've never tried to sell a product. Were you asking because I said it's not a numbers game?
/r/seduction25/03/21 06:34 PM
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As someone that's "been in the game a while" you just sound jaded and shitty, insecure, etc. I've been working on game since 2010-2011. That's a decade. Am I attractive? Yep. Am I a smooth talker? Yep. Was I attractive 8-9 years ago, shortly after beginning my journey? Fuck no. Was I a smooth talker? Fuck no. So where do you explain myself and how do you explain away my failure for the first two years? The truth is you cannot, because you don't actually have the experience to be making this opin…
/r/seduction25/03/21 05:46 PM
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Many guys tend to just "fall in love" because the girl is hot and they don't have any other options. They fall in love for many reasons, because feelings just happen and can't be stopped. You can control your actions though. It is something you can control. I've done it multiple times. You just didn't fall in love. You didn't have chemistry with the particular girl or whatever. What exactly did you control with those girls though? Was it actually your feelings or did you just never develop them?…
/r/seduction23/03/21 01:13 PM
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This post is all wrong and it's getting a bunch of up votes by dudes that don't know any better. You can't control your emotions, they just happen. Focus on things you can control, which is your actions. You can't control that you see a girl and want to speak to her. You can't control the anxiety that happens when you think about doing it. You can control your body and mouth, walk up and say hi. That's an action. You can't control walking in on your wife and seeing her banging another dude. You …
/r/seduction23/03/21 12:32 PM
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Maybe you're just fine as fuck and he automatically thought, "Definitely a bot."
/r/seduction22/03/21 02:16 AM
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I sandwich my long posts. The TLDR is the first paragraph, repeated again in a different way in the last paragraph.
/r/seduction22/03/21 01:07 AM
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There is a perspective that would help you to adopt and it involves a skill that you can practice and develop. The perspective is to acknowledge and separate your actions from your feelings. Acknowledge your feelings, but do not accommodate them with your actions. Let feelings happen, they just do. They just exist and they're fine. Give yourself permission to feel everything. Never give yourself permission to act based on just feelings. Since your feelings are going to always just happen, if all…
/r/seduction21/03/21 04:58 PM
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I got to see the world change overnight it seemed like. I lost 110lbs in one year, from 330 to 220 during a time when everyone was wearing winter clothes. Spring rolls around and everyone, including me, is wearing clothes where you can see someone's body. My face was leaner. My body was comfortable in movement from a hard year of physical training and coordination! Holy shit, girls responded like crazy! Then I'd open my fucking mouth and Mr. Ugly FatAss would start talking, because he was 28 yea…
/r/seduction16/03/21 06:52 PM
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If you suck at texting, yeah don't text. Otherwise, ignore this post and just text when you want.
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:09 PM
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I'm tired of your negativity, toxicity, and straight up misbehavior. You're just a gross person, good bye.
/r/seduction01/03/21 03:06 AM
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Who is the one lashing out? Who is the one with bad behavior since the start? Who has actually been triggered since the start? Grow up and leave the house more, expand your circles and your narrow mind. Also, perhaps seek therapy for your insecurities that are causing you to lash out and be triggered.
/r/seduction01/03/21 02:45 AM
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No - just not a careless, selfish, Liar. Dishonest, insecure, unattractive, antisocial, judgemental, narrow minded, bigoted person.
/r/seduction01/03/21 02:38 AM
1

Non-monogamy is absolutely disgusting. Lol okay grandma.
/r/seduction01/03/21 01:52 AM
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I'm not monogamous. Kinda creepy. And you're nothing but judgey. You think you've displayed anything close to confidence during this exchange? How about I judge you? Your behavior has been bad at best estimation and borderline disgusting at worst. You think I'm the one lacking social skills or confidence? Your insecurity is in everything you write and you have the nerve to call me cocky? This is all extremely ironic and you are correct, maybe I should be giving you relationship advice specifical…
/r/seduction01/03/21 01:43 AM
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... But you're not in a relationship now and your 17.5 year relationship failed. I am in that relationship still. You assume so much and you're wrong a lot. That's ironically part of being cocky, not confident.
/r/seduction01/03/21 01:32 AM
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Is there a particular relationship that failed because of poor advice from a PUA? No, my longest lasting relationship is 17.5 years....how about you? On top of that relationship I've had other very rewarding relationships. I'm lucky as far as love life goes. Do you not have a lot of confidence and that's why you feel the need to attack someone who has solid advice? Most of my friends or lovers think I'm the most confident person they've ever met. I'm attacking his advice because I've been into s…
/r/seduction01/03/21 01:12 AM
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I'm sorry, but you sound ridiculous. I literally just explained why I was triggered by his opinion and then you ask me why?
/r/seduction01/03/21 12:32 AM
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I get that you're trying to make some kind of woke realization and argue that PUA gurus have it all wrong, but by the end of your post it just sounds like you're saying the opposite with, "So anyways, make her the prize!" You can see yourself as a prize and not compare yourself to anyone. No man and no woman. You don't need to speak to a woman you find attractive for the purpose of seeing if you can have fun together. You just do you. Just worry about having fun and being fun. Maybe it's fun to …
/r/seduction28/02/21 08:11 PM
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Kind of asking in the wrong place, but you're in luck to find someone with some experience in specifically what you're asking. In my experience, it's rather impossible to stop having feelings. They just happen and with them come thoughts. It is absolutely possible to always choose a better action to follow regardless of the feeling we have though. I've been into seduction for about a decade now. I've had the threesomes, I've had the 20-30 girls on regular text rotation to lineup dates, I've had …
/r/seduction28/02/21 04:11 PM
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You shouldn't be down voted, that's crazy. This is seduction 101. You sit next to your date so you can touch.
/r/seduction19/02/21 01:40 AM
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Not many women are going to seriously date a guy with a bus pass Women constantly settle. This is an extremely inaccurate portrayal of most women lol
/r/seduction15/02/21 01:11 PM
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Acting classes would be good, Improv/comedy sport classes would be even better. Relating to your second point, I don't agree that you must be confident to public speak. Rather, I don't agree that there's an absence of anxiety, you just learn that you can push through anxiety. I've given speeches that I can't remember a single second of because I was so far into my head. I walked on stage, checked out mentally/blacked out, then walked off stage to applause. It seems to happen that way for me typi…
/r/seduction05/02/21 11:41 AM
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You don't talk to enough girls, bucko.
/r/seduction04/02/21 12:52 PM
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I see attraction as binary as well, but I don't feel a spark of passion immediately. I can tell certain women are physically attractive and still don't want anything to do with them. What you're describing is what my comment means. Imagine if you had fucked that girl just because you could, it'd be like eating food without tasting anything.
/r/seduction04/02/21 12:01 PM
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Sex without passion is like food without flavor. What you're describing makes it all worth it.
/r/seduction03/02/21 06:30 PM
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It bothers you enough that you have to question her about it. It shouldn't even affect you that much. You should have a rich and rewarding life that doesn't rely upon on that one girl accepting your invitation. You should have several other girls saying yes so that you are actually okay with a girl constantly making excuses. She shouldn't have to make excuses, because if you actually were never bothered, then you would've moved on when it as actually appropriate.
/r/seduction03/02/21 12:06 PM
1

Try walking with big dick energy or something
/r/seduction03/02/21 03:23 AM
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Nope, getting flirted with everywhere I go basically.
/r/seduction03/02/21 02:19 AM
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Not only is it an active superpower, it's a passive one. Being able to actively speak to anyone, and in an entertaining or enjoyable way, creates a picture of you in everyone's head that's charismatic. When your friends or social group think of you, the things they say are kind and reverent. It flavors all of your actions in everyone's mind, so they see your mundane as spectacular. So since you're "good at being social", then people automatically have a bias towards your actions. They're more fo…
/r/seduction23/01/21 02:24 PM
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And yet another post of yours you describe yourself as "his girlfriend". So you understand ownership isn't implied and you're just being a jerk.
/r/seduction22/01/21 02:26 PM
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Bro, it's because a half a million people read this sub now. I think when I started reading there were about 60,000-80,000 subscribers this was 7-8 years ago. I didn't even bother making an account to post until 6 or so years ago. A lot has changed here since then.
/r/seduction22/01/21 12:06 PM
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maybe some spiritual practice like meditation A lot of the things you discuss can actually be solved with a meditative mindset. Meditation isn't a spiritual practice, it's physical and mental practice. The mind and body aren't separate things, every single part is connected. Meditation is about acknowledging the now. It's about training your brain to accept your thoughts and release them. There are measurable physical changes that occur in the brains of meditation practitioners. The benefits of …
/r/seduction19/01/21 02:40 PM
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I use my hands and fingers to manipulate my guitar. I use my mind to manipulate and maintain my frame of reality. I use my words to manipulate my world, so what? Who are you to suggest my manipulations, or anyone else's, aren't honest?
/r/seduction11/01/21 01:42 PM
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You stop living your life in "what ifs" and start living in "we will see". That's essentially what confidence is...it applies to everything you think and do. Talk to a girl and you'll see if you like their personality and if not, you'll go. No biggie.
/r/seduction09/01/21 04:10 PM
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Start with anybody, it doesn't need to be a woman specifically. You have to "unalienate" yourself with your environment and those around you. Just socialize, not for the purpose of successes, but just because it is what it is. It's just a thing you're doing. No winners, no losers, no failure. Eventually you start becoming "confident". Which is simply being sure that you can handle something that comes your way, even if that thing is difficult. We all feel awkward, nervous, etc when we get into s…
/r/seduction06/01/21 02:29 PM
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I don't know how to. No one knows how to until they do it. I can clearly tell you don't know what it's like to have these diagnoses and that's fine, No, I have my own personal shortcomings. So I understand that we're different. please, have an open mind about things you have no clue about, we do not function like the rest of you and it is a lot harder for us to function in social settings. I'm aware of how you function differently, but with the various diagnoses you've listed, people do still fu…
/r/seduction06/01/21 02:03 PM
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Literally everything you've described as a problem occurs to 100% average people, so..maybe look for a new excuse to cling to besides you're shortcomings. We all have shortcomings. We all don't let them dictate our life.
/r/seduction06/01/21 01:23 PM
1

A r/boneappletea in the wild!
/r/seduction02/01/21 10:00 PM
1

That'd be "get go"
/r/seduction02/01/21 09:43 PM
1

I've explained why, your ego seems to be affecting your perception and so you've started projecting...
/r/seduction02/01/21 06:02 PM
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I never sit across from women unless I'm interviewing them. In a dating setting, I'm sitting next to them and I'm touching them somehow. Either our legs, arms, or shoulders. I have difficulty "escalating" if I'm not comfortable and I'm not comfortable sitting face to face with someone, because that feels very stiff. It feels very formal. I don't touch people in formal situations and you can't with a table between you. Escalating is a ladder process to me. One step at a time. If I go skipping run…
/r/seduction02/01/21 05:05 PM
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Do you have a scientific background? Do you have the actual ability to gain the proper take away from reading a scientific article? Do you then have the ability to create a proper follow-up experiment relating to the articles you read? Do you approach the world around you scientifically? Do you have a scientific mind? I'm asking these questions because just based on the way you've asked and the assumptions you have, it suggests you do not. So I don't think research is going to help you. You're s…
/r/seduction02/01/21 04:48 PM
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Just pointing out that you've described science and the problem is when a lay person tries to illicit further meaning in the information that they discover. Also, you've gone on with your personal conjecture, which is fine, but it makes your original point untoward and unfounded. Edit: TLDR there's nothing wrong with the research or science.
/r/seduction02/01/21 04:40 PM
1

The geck go?!
/r/seduction02/01/21 04:36 PM
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You're underthinking it, they're just eloquent in expression.
/r/seduction02/01/21 04:27 PM
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Says people that suck at online dating.
/r/seduction01/01/21 11:54 PM
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Women have brains. Women make choices. Women can decide who's worth speaking to or not. Women can find you attractive. If you let them. You worry about yourself. You worry about your choices. You worry about who you're attracted to. You decide who to speak to or not. Let's run a mental experiment. Let's say hypothetically you're the hottest guy on the planet. Let's say every woman on the planet thinks you're out of their league. Let's say any time you try speaking to one of them they let their s…
/r/seduction01/01/21 11:30 PM
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If it weren't a joke, then I wouldn't have put "boom gotem" at the end. Thank you for that explanation though, that's neat.
/r/seduction01/01/21 04:38 PM
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You don't need to talk about anything that hasn't or might not happen with a woman. You don't tell women, "Hey, I really like you and wanted to know if you wanted to be my XYZ" because then they have to imagine up what your idea of XYZ is without knowing you in that way. The easiest answer when they have nothing to lose is "Nope!" whether it's a LTR or ONS. You don't ask, you just live in the moment with her. "Hey, can come over?" "Hey, wanna cuddle up and watch movies on that couch?" Then you k…
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:56 PM
1

Bahaha
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:46 PM
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DO NOT ASK OUT A GIRL THAT YOU'VE GONE OUT WITH MULTIPLE TIMES What in the fuck? You just kiss her. Then live happily ever after.
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:40 PM
1

Do not listen to this person, do not talk about what you want before you have shown her you're physically interested. That person is showing you how to instantly get friend zoned.
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:39 PM
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Dude, you're already dating. Kiss the fucking girl already.
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:38 PM
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Not old enough to be your father, just your daddy. BOOM, GOTEM
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:36 PM
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Because it'd be fuckin stupid to pursue with female ENEMIES
/r/seduction01/01/21 12:32 PM
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This advice is fine and all, but only if you have conversations like this. The actual advice is don't ask boring ass questions. Do you actually enjoy small talk? If the answer is no, then why would you subject a dating prospect to it? Consider what we know about online dating: Women are inundated with other guys messaging them. Women get a ton of compliments. Women get random dick pics. Women have guys asking to meet up with them in the first five minutes of talking to a dude. Women have thirty …
/r/seduction31/12/20 03:27 PM
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Cool, you don't know what you're talking about. There's friendships, there's relationships, and there's definitely "the friendzone". The bit about "no one owes you a relationship", duh. Totally irrelevant to the point. Here's the friendzone: A guy and girl are spending time together. There's obviously something between them, they lay in bed together. They cuddle. They've been hanging out alone often. Girl likes where things are going. They're practically together in a relationship except for one…
/r/seduction30/12/20 11:31 AM
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Bro, this is not even closely related to the correct sub. You're in the wrong place.
/r/seduction29/12/20 05:28 PM
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Sounds good, I don't think you read before you type.
/r/seduction28/12/20 06:41 PM
0

Ok, so you were attacking a strawman before? Because you're definitely attacking one now. So I have to say, what in the fuck are you talking about?
/r/seduction28/12/20 06:05 PM
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It comes across as if you're attacking a strawman here, but my intuition tells me you're just adding to my point. I agree with enough of what you said to not bother disagreeing with any of the other stuff which I don't necessarily agree. One piece of advice that I can't give or get through to beginners here is "talk to thousands of women" because they don't want to hear that. They want to hear, "This is how to succeed* with one woman" without discovering for themselves that the way to succeed wi…
/r/seduction28/12/20 05:05 PM
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Well, the exact same thing could be said for, "scruffy dude in sweat pants and a hoodie". My point isn't about a hot guy, it's about a woman's neutrality changing because you're suddenly exhibiting recognizable behaviors. Recognizable behaviors socially cue us and give us our options. She can now be faced with a decision, "Wait a sec, is this dude hitting on me? Wait a sec, is this dude attractive?" Ten seconds ago you were written off as "some hot douche bag" or "some scruffy dude in sweats and…
/r/seduction28/12/20 12:20 PM
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girls don't much like being teased/negged by a stranger that they aren't attracted too. I think that's what he meant. I know what he meant, I simply disagree. People absolutely like being teased by strangers, assuming it's socially aware teasing. Attraction isn't even relevant. Negs are fine, but they aren't magic. Never said that. Never would. They're just normal behavior. They're not gonna make an unattracted girl, attracted. Same as any other element of 'game' That's just wrong though. If a g…
/r/seduction28/12/20 11:59 AM
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What is your definition of a neg? Anyone that says they don't work, I can't take seriously. They're just a normal part of human social interaction and they don't necessarily have to be some shitty thing you're saying. It's just a way to discuss a behavior and pointing it out to people inexperienced with social dynamics. It's light teasing all the way up to soul crushing asshole-ish comments and anything in between. There's no reason to be a huge asshole, but you definitely can be. As a kid, it w…
/r/seduction28/12/20 11:37 AM
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Then she should say no, because no means no. If and when she says no, then you full fucking stop.
/r/seduction27/12/20 12:21 PM
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I think you misinterpreted something here or briefly skimmed the post without reading all of it?
/r/seduction26/12/20 06:29 PM
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In my experience, you don't get to do much choosing then. You're just a reactionary responding to the world. Let's say you interact with 10 girls and only one's showing interest, but you would prefer 3 of the 10 and the one that's seeming interested isn't one of the 3. What if 2 of the 3 girls you're interested in are actually interested in you, but they're super fucking hot, so they aren't used to having to display their interest? What if they've been mostly trained to avoid the advances of men…
/r/seduction26/12/20 05:29 PM
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If a girl says she's not sure she wants to have sex tonight, that doesn't mean she doesn't want to have sex tonight. It means she isn't sure. It's her way of pumping the brakes and letting you know that you're fine right where you are. Stop moving things forward and stay right with what you're doing. Personally, I pump the brakes early when I sense that they're getting to that point. I'll just be like, "I need a drink!" Or to use the rest room, whatever. Anything to chill out and give her a chan…
/r/seduction26/12/20 01:39 PM
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What do you guys think? The article is an opinion piece and I'd have to read through his sources before really trusting the opinions. In my experience, eye contact is powerful, but the direction a woman looks away, or where I look away, really has no bearing on what our relationship is right then. Women communicate in different ways. Eye contact is communication. Therefore, women use eye contact in different ways. I also use my eye contact in various ways and I don't say the same things to diffe…
/r/seduction25/12/20 01:08 PM
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I don't do like 98% of the male population does. The secret? I get to the point. I don't do what 98% of the male population does, goes on to do exactly what 98% of the male population does. What's ironic is that I don't ask women for anything that they don't want me to ask them. Usually, they ask me first. I don't ask for phone numbers, I don't ask for dates. Literally every single guy they are talking to asks them for those things. You do too. And somehow they still end up in my phone or on a d…
/r/seduction22/12/20 01:14 AM
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Flakey girl comments 101
/r/seduction22/12/20 01:01 AM
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It's why, for women, it's even more important to be sexually disgusted by ineffectiveness than to be sexually attracted to effectiveness. Is this your note or an excerpt from the book? Either way, could you explain this to me? My brain isn't working great this morning.
/r/seduction21/12/20 03:22 PM
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and yes I have a giant dong I can't take you seriously at all. Lol get the fuck out of here. Quit talking, you're ridiculous.
/r/seduction20/12/20 01:20 AM
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Lol get the fuck out of here.
/r/seduction19/12/20 10:44 PM
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Get over yourself, dude.
/r/seduction19/12/20 05:44 PM
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I can't say I have any experience with that.
/r/seduction19/12/20 04:28 PM
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I was giving examples, not a play by play. Every woman is different and obviously read the room. The questions themselves aren't the example, the entire thing is the example. Thanks for all that extraneous information about yourself though. If I'm ever trying to seduce you, I'll keep that in mind.
/r/seduction19/12/20 04:21 PM
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Edit: The questions themselves are unimportant. Ask relevant questions to the woman you're speaking to and with your own particular voice, not mine. I'm a different man, I speak to different women. Where is your favorite place to be kissed? No, I don't mean like a tent or a movie theatre! I mean on your body! Ok what about on another person? Who's the hottest guy on the planet to you? How about girl? You ever kissed a girl before? Oh, ever had a threesome? Would you again? What'd you like about …
/r/seduction19/12/20 02:27 PM
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Just a PSA, Magnum condoms are just a marketing gimmick. Trojan magnum size: 8.1" and 54mm wide. Trojan magnum XL size: 8.1" and 54mm wide. Most common types of condoms are either similarly sized, or larger than magnums. The majority are maybe an inch less in length and 2mm less in girth. If you anyone reading this has difficulty maintaining an erection with a condom on, get wider condoms, because they're probably squeezing the blood out of your dick. If you have trouble keeping a condom on, the…
/r/seduction19/12/20 02:22 PM
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PSA: If you have a temper and you haven't been with any women yet, consider seeking therapy before you get into a relationship. Statistically, some dudes reading this have or will beat women. If you've never been with a woman, trust that there's a woman out there that's completely wrong for you. She'll be amazingly adept at pushing your buttons. She'll get close to you physically and emotionally. She'll learn all your weaknesses. Then she'll use her nasty little tongue to stab you in the place i…
/r/seduction19/12/20 02:03 PM
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Again, you're fuckin dense, "bro".
/r/seduction15/12/20 10:56 PM
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Stay in your lane. Your advice isn't worth shit here if you're going to avoid giving advice you have any experience in. If you could magically be a man, you wouldn't get laid for fuckin years. That's the whole deal here.
/r/seduction15/12/20 09:53 PM
1

God, you're dense.
/r/seduction15/12/20 09:44 PM
1

Ok, you can't have a simple conversation, you can't answer simple questions and you're going to give a guy advice on women? We're done. You need an education.
/r/seduction15/12/20 09:43 PM
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he should get advice from the sex he wants to be in a relationship with How many guys have you been in a relationship with and how many of those guys are you still in a relationship with? Each guy you picked to be with, is that the advice you'll give to men? Each man that's succeeded with you, did they do exactly what a woman would have told him to do? If they didn't, then how's you're advice valid? If they did, then don't men obviously already know what it takes to end up with you? You act like…
/r/seduction15/12/20 08:47 PM
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Don't you think it'd be rather presumptuous for any of us to tell a man what his goals should be? This is a sub dedicated to becoming seductive. Do I personally believe men should be working towards self improvement and ultimately a wholesome lifestyle? Sure, but that's none of my business if they're out trying to increase their body count. They'll figure it out on their own, whether it's fulfilling or an empty endeavor.
/r/seduction15/12/20 08:36 PM
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Let's say my entire life, I make a living catching fish. I've caught thousands of fish. I'm very, very good at catching fish. Then one fuckin fish says, "Don't listen to fishermen, they don't know what they're talking about. You wanna catch fish? Ask a fish."
/r/seduction15/12/20 06:03 PM
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Dating someone you find unattractive is literally below every person on the planet. If you want to have a legitimate discussion, then ask questions relating to value judgements. As your question stands, it doesn't have any logical answer, because it's not a logical question. There's multiple logical fallacies in your premises, so your question becomes logically flawed. You could ask other questions like, "Why do women find money attractive? They'll date ugly men with money because they find that…
/r/seduction15/12/20 03:39 PM
1

Alternatively, I really don't like women that have pictures at Machu Picchu, a random cliff view, running a tough mudder, and a paint run.
/r/seduction14/12/20 02:09 AM
5

Sick burns! Oh shit!
/r/seduction12/12/20 04:15 PM
5

Lol hey everyone look, a twelve year old kid is picking on me.
/r/seduction12/12/20 03:45 PM
12

Stupid people do stupid things. Selfish people do selfish things. Assholes act like assholes. The world keeps spinning.
/r/seduction12/12/20 02:28 PM
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I get why others are saying, "Good job, handled it well" and congratulating your morals or whatever but the surface situation is what you're describing here. The truth is you both could've been "together" now for a month. She brought up a guy just to elicit a response from you. You fell for a trap and then cock blocked yourself. All you had to do was kiss the girl, never discuss feelings, and chill the fuck out. Seduction simplified: Find girl. Talk to girl. Ask girl if she wants to be someplace…
/r/seduction11/12/20 02:37 PM
1

How about I do this instead. Why do you think you're capable of gaining friends, but not a lover? What is the difference to you in acquiring either of the two?
/r/seduction10/12/20 09:18 PM
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The answer is no. You can't suck my dick, so get off my nuts. Still not reading your shit.
/r/seduction10/12/20 08:14 PM
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I'm not going to bother reading all that. You lost your "Talk to this guy" card with your toxic crap. Peace, dude.
/r/seduction10/12/20 05:27 PM
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Have you truly been yourself though? Or do you constantly convince yourself "this is okay" when something happens? Do you tolerate more than you should? Do let people get away with more than they should? Do you ever want to say or do something, but become too concerned with what another person might want, so you stop yourself from saying or doing a thing? Here's an extreme hypothetical. Let's say you saw two gorgeous women, that you were extremely attracted to and they were both making eyes at y…
/r/seduction10/12/20 02:09 PM
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I was definitely a "nice guy" once upon a time. I have definitely moved away from ever being that way again. The mentality shift that I had was rather quick, because it just clicked one day. Basically, I wanted to do right by everyone. I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings and such, so I constantly preemptively "corrected" my behaviors based on assumptions I made about other people. I assumed women wanted this or that. I assumed women didn't want that or this. I assumed people thought this or …
/r/seduction10/12/20 01:55 PM
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Recognizing the interest of others is of course a social skill. Recognizing when you should intimately touch those interested in you is also a social skill. Telling someone with way more experience in the thing that you can't do, then telling them they're wrong, and that they're bad at explaining the thing that you can't do is also a social skill. It's just a bad social skill. And if I crave intimacy badly, I can hire a cuddle artist for the night. And then at the end of telling me I'm bad and w…
/r/seduction10/12/20 12:06 PM
0

Lol cool, glad you're here.
/r/seduction10/12/20 11:41 AM
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I will be honest with you, I can't give solid advice regarding that, because I don't have experience in that. My instincts say that perhaps you unfortunately have to weed through more people. It just may be that you're very picky and so you need to view a larger variety.
/r/seduction10/12/20 11:38 AM
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BAM, roasted, busted, invalidated. Easiest 1v1 of my life bruh. Alright, guess you win. Now what? You retire champion and I leave my comment right where it is, because it's going to help at least one person that reads it.
/r/seduction09/12/20 09:18 PM
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Sure, but if someone is into you, then you must touch them. That's not an oversimplification. None of what I said is an oversimplification, it's just a simplification. You're not special in some way that makes you "incompatible" as someone's lover. You just don't have the social skills necessary and you haven't worked on those skills yet. Otherwise, you'd have already succeeded....plenty of times. There's nothing remarkable about that. It just seems that way from your perspective, because you're…
/r/seduction09/12/20 09:16 PM
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I see it as a ladder and the purpose of escalation (as a ladder) is for both people to reach a destination while both remaining comfortable. Things would be different for you, so I'll just talk about what's comfortable for me. Things will be different for each woman, so I'll just say you have to pay attention to your current partner at the time. First, why I see it as a ladder. You want to climb up to a roof and it's thirty feet high (or ten meters). You can pick a ladder that has thirty steps a…
/r/seduction09/12/20 08:38 PM
1

Sorry, I could've been way more explicit than. ask a woman to just hangout. Then asked that woman to be alone with you. Then touched that woman while you are both alone. I do see how it's not explicitly clear that I made a distinction between hangout and everything else.
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:51 PM
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Thank you for your opinion, I disagree. I've been a part of pickup for about ten years. I've been successful enough to share experience here for about 6 years. You can definitely try to explain things in depth, but it will reach fewer people and it'll also only lead to more complications. Simplifying things is the most efficient way I've found to discuss seduction. I've never been accused of rape. I've never been called disrespectful by the women I've ended up with and I've had a lot of rewardin…
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:48 PM
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Also, I think you're reading for further meaning than I meant. "Touch" or "physical intimacy" in my post is referring to a litmus test of human interaction. You're trying to complicate it, while I was trying to simplify it.
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:35 PM
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But this could also activate a girl’s creep detector if its not done right so... You can literally just say hi and do the same thing. You could literally never met a woman, she could see your modeling picture in shuttershock and the same feeling can occur. You could literally do anything or nothing and the exact same thing will happen! It's almost like....you're not in control of how another person can feel and all you can do is try, huh? "You can please some of the people all of the time, you c…
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:28 PM
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The types of activity you do with them That depends on the friend, that depends on the lover. the topics of conversation Eh? That depends on literally every person you know. the dynamics of the relationship in general are all different Again, that varies by literally every single human that you meet.
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:17 PM
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Do you support friends financially? No, nor lovers. Do you have a romantic interest in friends? Yes, of course I do. Do you put up with friends shit the way you do for a lover? I don't put up with toxicity in friends or lovers. They would never get to earn the title of friend or lover.
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:14 PM
2

Could be like you and have zero friends and zero lovers, act like a total shit head to strangers in the internet, and then also act like you navigate society better than I do, while also acting like you have more information than I do. Do you see why you sound so stupid right now? Let's not even discuss who's actually toxic, because that's a given. Crazy how much mentally sick people project their own problems on to others.
/r/seduction09/12/20 05:11 PM
78

Then you don't touch people enough, because it's literally the only difference between friends and lovers. If you've ever said something to a woman similar to this, "I like you and I wanted to know if you would like to date?" then you've just been doing it wrong. Alternatively, if you ask a woman to just hangout. Then asked that woman to be alone with you. Then touched that woman while you are both alone. Then leaned in to kiss that woman. Then you wouldn't be able to say what you have. Once aga…
/r/seduction09/12/20 01:44 PM
4

It's also why one of the first things women try to wrench from you is emotion, which can be assuaged by displaying vulnerability.
/r/seduction07/12/20 08:22 PM
10

I see pickup as a very small subset of being seductive, so I do agree. Pickup is an active skill set, being seductive is a passive skill set, and applying this philosophy to feelings/actions benefits both.
/r/seduction07/12/20 08:12 PM
172

Not many people can Untrue. Many people just choose to not. some of us feel self conscious Actually, many of us feel that. Some of us don't use our feelings as an excuse to force us or stop us from doing something. Feelings just happen, but actions define us. You take two people with the same feelings, both of them will do different actions. Let's say you get extremely angry at someone, red hot mad. Your action is to walk away and cool off. Some other dude might pull out a gun and start blasting…
/r/seduction07/12/20 03:58 PM
0

It's because you're boring. You're just being some guy. If a date goes great, then that woman wants to fuck. Women don't agree to be around you in a romantic way unless they've convinced themselves they might fuck you by the end of the night. They aren't positive they're going to fuck you, but they're positive that there's a chance they will. You know how I know that? Because on every very successful date, you'll discover that women are wearing their cutest matching panties and bra. Or they aren…
/r/seduction07/12/20 01:28 PM
1

And the answer is always no, right?
/r/seduction06/12/20 04:27 PM
1

That's my answer. I can't give you a specific list of steps or something. Not a single woman works that way. I explained the tool that gives you freedom to do it yourself. Ya dig?
/r/seduction06/12/20 01:39 PM
2

I assume that the only reason I'm putting myself near another person is because I want to be there and then I assume the other person feels the same way, otherwise their actions wouldn't be matching mine. If their actions are matching mine, then I think about what it would take to make that other person feel great in this scenario. I feel insecurities, but I focus on them and then I ignore the actions that my insecurity wants me to make. Instead, I think about "everything else, minus that insecu…
/r/seduction06/12/20 12:42 AM
18

Dude how old are you for you to say that? Since novody was thinking it Imagining a whitehaired 68 year old with a cane Whats this tongue not getting passed the teeth stuff Thats just a horney thing It will definatly go passed durinh sex Depending on the sex
/r/seduction05/12/20 02:40 PM
10

If neither of us is "feeling it", that's the way it seems. If I've played my cards in my preferred way, then it's usually hot as fuck and not awkward. I'm a huge tease and I don't have a hint of desperation, so I'm usually ramping up the girls I'm seducing until they're so hyped up that kissing just seems to happen. In their mind anyways, it's spontaneous. In my mind, I've been preparing this moment and have known it's coming. I do the same shit every time, because I've been working so hard at b…
/r/seduction05/12/20 02:37 PM
2

You okay, bud?
/r/seduction03/12/20 08:23 AM
1

What about it?
/r/seduction03/12/20 08:16 AM
17

It isn't fucked up, it's the best way to have a truly rewarding and healthy relationship. You must acknowledge that you are free to leave and the other person is free to leave at any point in your lives. Once that's accepted as a fact by both parties, then both parties can acknowledge that the other is there by choice and neither party will take the other for granted. There's nothing keeping that person from leaving except that you're worth being with and they are, too.
/r/seduction02/12/20 07:27 PM
22

You may need to just start fucking men.
/r/seduction28/11/20 02:43 PM
1

Yes, thank you.
/r/seduction28/11/20 12:10 PM
21

I've been active off and on for like a decade. When I started out, it's like nothing I did worked. Then I started to see success and still it would lead to a failure down the road. Then I started to see success and I didn't understand why. Then I started to take success for granted, but I was no longer challenged, so I just started caring less and less. I had developed the skills, but I hadn't developed the proper attitude for handling that success. When I carried forward with the same skills, s…
/r/seduction27/11/20 05:03 PM
25

You know she's into you, so boil it down to the basics. What's that mean? Does it mean stop talking to her? Does it mean you shouldn't be alone with her? "Hey let's meet at XYZ, see you there." "Hey this is fun, let's go to my place and watch XYZ." "Hey, let's get comfy over here." "Hey, I'll be right back." and then go get the condom. You just escalate, dude. It's not rocket science. She's into you, so just act like it. How would you act if she was your girlfriend already? Do that.
/r/seduction27/11/20 01:55 PM
1

Technically, every action is manipulation. Any single thing you do is a manipulation of the world around you (and yourself).
/r/seduction27/11/20 01:47 PM
0

"Breed her"? Bro, who talks like that? Gross.
/r/seduction27/11/20 01:44 PM
1

If I've caught thousands of fish, then I'm a fisherman. If you ask me how to catch a fish, then I can tell you how to also catch fish. Ask the fish? Why on earth would that fish have a clue how to be caught? Has it practiced? Has it studied? Has it mastered the art of being caught hundreds of times? You are flat out wrong.
/r/seduction24/11/20 11:52 PM
4

Probably, because it's stupid to ask a fish how to catch fish.
/r/seduction24/11/20 11:34 PM
10

....... how would advice from a man be any better? Women don't give advice based on the realities they've lived, they give advice based on the feelings they've experienced. You ask a woman what she looks for in a man? She tells you what she would look for, but she doesn't tell you about the ten dudes she's actually fucked. You ask a woman how to treat her, she'll tell you how she wants to be treated, and it won't be realistic, because she'll list the opposite of all the things that hurt her but …
/r/seduction24/11/20 11:30 PM
1

That's honestly what surprised me about your comment. I've been here just as a reader for over 7 years and a poster for 6. I've not seen many others that are poly. Actually, just one. Lol plus you. I've been down voted every time I've talked about my wife, so I don't. I just talk about other women, which is what our audience wants. Somehow being married takes away credibility that we can attract women, or that it makes it easier somehow.
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:36 AM
3

It’s just in my mind that’s basically keeping someone who you vowed til death do us part and you ain’t even broken that off legally yet before bedding other women. We're not religious people. Why is this even a thing? We took our vows. Not society's, not religion's, ya know? What does sexual fidelity really have to do with treating women right? If anything, the rest of society looks bonkers to us. Cheat? Divorce? The fuck are those things? We have been together half our lives almost and deeply i…
/r/seduction23/11/20 12:46 AM
3

You're just jumping to judgements, but take it at face value. He is married and he dates women. Eerily similar story to mine and I've been on r/seduction for years. I'm sure our situations are vastly different, but dating women while being with a woman isn't as big of a deal as society makes it. As long as you're candid and forthright, women are pretty accepting. Edit: What no one likes is being betrayed, cheated, or lied to. Even his wife and my wife. :P
/r/seduction22/11/20 11:27 PM
1

Holy shit, I could've authored this comment. Lol Been with my wife 17 years, been active in "the game" for about a decade.
/r/seduction22/11/20 11:20 PM
1

This is the best sales analogy ever in regards to seduction.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:41 PM
1

You need to get an education and open your god damn mind to knowledge, facts, and science.
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:52 PM
1

And yet you still let me be smarter than you by choosing to be a willfully ignorant dumb fuck? I'm fine right where I am, intellectually. You act as if false bravado equals intelligence and it's exactly the opposite. You've decided it's others fear that dictate their desire to socially distance and wear masks? It's literally science upon science we've had for over a hundred years that's dictating intelligent choices made to protect society. On the other side you have a group of people refusing t…
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:13 PM
0

Shut the fuck up, I'm not reading shit.
/r/seduction19/11/20 03:11 PM
5

No, you stupid fucking trash, you stay inside long enough for the virus to burn itself out in the people already infected, reduce the number exposed, and maintain manageable hospital numbers so that everyday health and emergency issues don't compound the problem of an overrun medical system. Once you gain control of the situation, you contact trace and let people go back to living their life. But I gotta go see my friends and go to the bar! Boo fucking hoo. So stupid fuckers like you that couldn…
/r/seduction19/11/20 02:30 PM
3

Oh for fuck's sake. You just lost any and all credibility around here.
/r/seduction19/11/20 02:20 PM
15

Ugh, those girls you're describing. Every girl in the group talks shit about the men they're dating, even if they're happy in the relationship they're in.....just to fit in with the girls.
/r/seduction18/11/20 11:50 AM
3

I’m going out on a limb here and say this doesn’t make you more attractive to woman. It makes you more attractive to women and everybody else. Being honest with your insecurities is just being honest with yourself. Being honest with others about your insecurities isn't the same as being honest with yourself. Using this doesn’t make you attractive to women, but it shows that you understand yourself rather than hide it. Displaying weaknesses without the accompanying insecurity is what people find …
/r/seduction14/11/20 01:19 PM
35

Physical escalation is for both people involved. You don't typically just go from zero touching to "okay, time to kiss" because that's uncomfortable as fuck. Instead you constantly broker an emotional attachment to someone during a process of also brokering a physical attachment to them. You do that by constantly running checks and balances. Does she/he mind being close? Do they back up? Do they get closer? Is their leg touching mine? Their arm? Are they letting it stay that way? Anything that y…
/r/seduction11/11/20 04:28 PM
44

I like your post, dude. It's almost like a haiku. Only much longer.
/r/seduction11/11/20 04:09 PM
1

Shut the fuck up, Fred.
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:50 PM
1

Shut the fuck up, Fred.
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:22 PM
0

Shut the fuck up, Fred
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:06 PM
1

Shut the fuck up, Fred
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:05 PM
1

You're the fucking child logging into alt accounts to get support from himself. God you're fucking dumb
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:52 PM
2

Lol you stupid fuck, if you're going to log in on all your alts, maybe you shouldn't post in ALL THE EXACT SAME SUBS
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:49 PM
1

Go back to your other account, moron.
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:48 PM
1

I can smell that you shouldn't be giving any advice around here or projecting your bullshit onto me. I have a good life and I'm happy with how seductive I am. I like my charisma. I like positive people. I like good messages. I do not like whiney bitches that see a light in people and try to turn it off. You either get with the program of improving yourself and others or like I said, just fuck off. You want me to like you? Go edit your first message and say something helpful to the inexperienced …
/r/seduction09/11/20 05:41 PM
0

No need to whine like a bitch either, but here we both are: me being disrespectful, you whining again.
/r/seduction09/11/20 05:36 PM
3

Lol I've been here passing my experience for 6 years, sending positive messages to men who seek to improve themselves. There is no room here for whiney bitches like you. There's also a lot of women that read and post here, so keep your misogyny bullshit to yourself around here, too. Be a good dude or fuck right off, kid.
/r/seduction09/11/20 05:16 PM
17

Lol Get a load of this guy! Thinks all handsome dudes are successful with women. You must be new here. Edit: okay reading through your other comment history. You're just a negative misogynist. No wonder you think this dumb shit.
/r/seduction09/11/20 04:23 PM
1

...seeing as safe sex is still an issue even. Yeah I get it.
/r/seduction07/11/20 09:06 PM
1

Where why art thou meeting hotties in the age of pandemics and politics
/r/seduction07/11/20 03:31 PM
1

The term gets thrown around loosely to mean, "don't like or not good" at social situations. Jung, when he coined the terms, said that introverts and extroverts are minorities and that most people fall into the "third other" category. Get out there and expose yourself to social situations. Learn the truth about yourself, rather than accepting a fabrication of convenience and ease.
/r/seduction07/11/20 03:28 PM
1

One basket <----- all your eggs
/r/seduction06/11/20 03:18 AM
5

It's introduction without any outside preamble. If your buddy introduces a woman to you, that's a warm approach/intro.
/r/seduction04/11/20 07:57 PM
1

Lol I'll take your first activity on that account as reward enough.
/r/seduction02/11/20 02:48 PM
2

You sound retarded as fuck. And you sure typed a lot and wasted your time after saying that. Instead of caring what you say, I'm going to treat you like someone's bratty child. I'm just going to ignore that person's bratty child.
/r/seduction02/11/20 12:47 PM
80

Man, you just throw those words out there like you're so right and it's so final. It's absolutely not that black and white though. First thing, extroverts and introverts are minorities. Everyone out there that sucks socially isn't an introvert, they could just be inexperienced. Most guys here are inexperienced. So inexperienced that they don't know what the hell they are or how to succeed. Now they read a post like yours, collect a healthy dose of confirmation bias, then keep identifying as an i…
/r/seduction02/11/20 03:01 AM
1

A lot good friends? Nah. I have a few good friends and many acquaintances. I'm not necessarily a bad friend, but I don't do the whole "birthday wishes" thing. I don't stand on ceremony. I hate pretense. I don't do small talk. I don't allow debts to pile up in my friendships, for either party. I tolerate zero bullshit and I end friendships when they need to be over. Alternatively, if I see you struggling, I will reach out. If I need a friend, I reach out. If I'm sought, I respond. If I see you ne…
/r/seduction31/10/20 08:56 PM
1

a lot of shitty behavior and misogyny that PUA taught See, that's what I'm talking about though. You had to do that to learn to not do it. Thing is, I never went down that path. I never acted misogynistically, or treated women shitty, in order to succeed. I chose to avoid shitty advice that didn't fit my morals. So once again, it's not the reading that was any problem. You wouldn't have made it to where you are without some of the knowledge you gained and it's highly unlikely that you would've s…
/r/seduction31/10/20 05:14 PM
11

Dudes will use the same profile, low-level quality pictures, fail at OLDating, then blame women/OLD as the problem. You need one great selfie, an outdoor activity shot, an indoor activity shot, one glamour shot of you dressed in a nice outfit, and one group-photo as one of the last pictures. The more pictures of you looking good while not staring into the camera the better. Also, open your mouth when you fuckin smile, none of that tight lipped serial killer shit.
/r/seduction31/10/20 05:03 PM
0

What if you're just gay, and won't admit it, so you keep trying to go after women and feel no sexual attraction, so you think you're asexual? Who knows! Could be anything!
/r/seduction31/10/20 02:24 PM
0

These kinds of posts are so silly. "Hey, this is all that I did and I ended up successful. Don't do what I did though, do something else instead!" Self-reflection should tell you that the entire journey was necessary to reach the point you are at. You learned what to do and what not to do. You made mistakes along the way. The reading had nothing to do with your mistakes. The mistakes were part of the learning process. The experiences are what led to your success. You can't know whether you were …
/r/seduction31/10/20 02:21 PM
1

Cool cool cool, except the guys looking to learn seduction need confidence in order to be fair to themselves. Asking them to put on a t-shirt and be honest with themselves is literally impossible. Plus, I've got a flabby dad bod, and I guarantee there's a bunch of dudes that look bangin in a t shirt compared to me. I'm still "the hottest guy" on the planet to some women and I'll be that way in their memory for a long time, because of who I am. Not because of what I look like in a t-shirt. There …
/r/seduction29/10/20 12:18 PM
21

Just because you're ignorant to the games you play, doesn't mean you don't play them. Some people naturally do things that others must focus on to accomplish.
/r/seduction19/10/20 05:48 PM
-4

Let's say you're walking along and you see a penny on the ground. Maybe you stop to pick it up, maybe you don't wanna bother. I mean, hey....a penny is a penny, but you've got somewhere to be, so fuck it. Not worth your time or effort. Well, what if you saw $100? Definitely stopping to pick that shit up. Do you think everyone would pass that $100 like a penny, or do you think everyone would equally want it? If you put one hundred people in a row, walking passed, one hundred people would stop and…
/r/seduction17/10/20 11:28 PM
1

Point 2 contradicts point 3.
/r/seduction17/10/20 05:03 PM
3

Guys, don't listen to fish about how to catch fish. You might as well get all your dating advice from your mother, if you listen to this woman's jaded opinion.
/r/seduction15/10/20 11:31 AM
1

Hate to break it to you, even if you are good looking, you still have to be good socially.
/r/seduction15/10/20 03:25 AM
0

Here, I'll just repeat what you said again But there is no circumstance where prolonged eye contact is not a sign of aggression. "No circumstance"? Really, dude? You're still holding onto that? You really think you're right about this? And I'm the immature one? Alright, kid.
/r/seduction12/10/20 08:08 PM
0

You must have forgotten where this started? Here's where my argument started But there is no circumstance where prolonged eye contact is not a sign of aggression. You were wrong then and you're still wrong. My argument has supported this start to finish. You're wrong and I've told you how and why. You just really don't want to be and you haven't told me why I am wrong and you're right. Other than I must have autism to disagree with you.
/r/seduction12/10/20 07:59 PM
0

while calling me names and forming accusations against my character. Here is another definition for you. person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. I didn't call you a name, I gave you a label to describe your belief relating to aggression and eye contact.
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:59 PM
1

However, in humans and some of the gregarious nonhuman primates, eye contact is tolerated more and may be used to communicate other emotional and mental states
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:56 PM
-4

However, in humans and some of the gregarious nonhuman primates, eye contact is tolerated more and may be used to communicate other emotional and mental states. You're cute. Stay afraid of your shadow!
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:56 PM
0

hostile or violent behavior or attitudes toward another; readiness to attack or confront. No. Eye contact is not inherently aggressive. The only way you could perceive it that way is if you perceive every person as a threat. What you're trying to tell me is that I should feel threatened by any person holding eye contact with me. I am telling you that I do not feel threatened and I don't feel that others holding eye contact are being aggressive. I am not afraid of others. If you were holding eye …
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:29 PM
9

"Never" is extreme. You basically just shouldn't avoid it and you should develop a comfort in making eye contact. If a woman is attractive to you, then don't break eye contact. It's an intimate act of nonverbal communication. You're acknowledging another person, you are seeing them and you're communicating that you're comfortable with them seeing you. Eye contact is uncomfortable because subconsciously we know all these things and it's simply easier to avoid feeling any of those things. It's eas…
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:14 PM
3

But there is no circumstance where prolonged eye contact is not a sign of aggression. No. That's ridiculous. I guess if everything frightens you then you may perceive it as aggression, because you're a coward. Assuming you're not an overly anxious coward, then prolonged eye contact means very little. You don't think about it at all. At the very least, you don't attribute negative thoughts and feelings to a neutral act.
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:55 PM
1

You mentioned about 50 women, but I'm only good with women because I've spoken to thousands. Like ten thousand. The understanding and insight you gain snowballs, until one day you realize pretty much everyone enjoys your company. It's not just romantically either. Romance becomes a byproduct of who you always are. When you speak to women, you realize that they will bond with you the more and more time you share with them individually. Eventually, you have to decide whether to continue giving you…
/r/seduction09/10/20 10:55 PM
5

You can't just wait for a woman to come along and pick you up. You need to speak to thousands of women and learn how to do that well. You need exposure and experience based on activity, not passivity. Experiencing life passively rarely creates new experiences for you. Experiencing life actively definitely creates new experiences regularly. You see a woman, you walk up and start talking. You do that enough times and you learn how to flirt, get phone numbers, set dates, etc. You start creating sit…
/r/seduction09/10/20 08:44 PM
3

It's not a consuming set of thoughts. You just become a honed edge version of your best self. Eventually, you are who you are, and most people like it. It's not a fake you, or anything like that. It's just a concentrated version of you and dosed specifically towards others at beneficial social times.
/r/seduction08/09/20 07:31 PM
1

Sure, sexually attractive or not.
/r/seduction08/09/20 07:26 PM
7

Flirtation: vocal tone (e.g. well, HELLO there), willingness to look into eyes, suggestive phrases (e.g. Glad I met you, would love to meet more of you another time!), overt/conspicuous phrases (e.g. You're cute).
/r/seduction06/09/20 02:07 PM
11

Two people talking is just two people talking. Those two people can be anybody. They could be a man and a man, a woman and a woman, an old lady and a young man, a doctor and a patient. Those all imply a relationship, even if they don't actually entirely imply what the relationship is, you can wonder what a man and a man would do together, but not know. You know what a man to woman relationship is? Hmmmm? It's physical, intimate, emotional, reproductional.... You can talk to a woman where it's no…
/r/seduction06/09/20 12:35 PM
1

I think you're just so self centered and self absorbed that you cannot comprehend another person having different feelings on the subject than you. You can't accept another human being having a completely separate view. I've stated my point, but your self centered ass is like, "Here's where you're wrong." No, you fuck head, I'm not stupid, just like you're not stupid. You're fuckin stuck in your opinion, like it was a debate. You have number systems, I have binary. It's that simple. I don't sit …
/r/seduction05/09/20 08:09 PM
2

I've had more threesomes than you've had girlfriends probably, so I think that's why you're confused right now. I don't bother deciding which woman is hotter, I just fuck them both. That's fine, right? Just be honest and wanna fuck two, three girls? Say So...then do it.
/r/seduction05/09/20 02:01 AM
22

No, we all don't. I operate on a binary system. Yes or no, she's a 1 or a 0. I don't care how attractive a girl is, just that I find her attractive, because there's no real way to decide and there's also no point in debating it with yourself. Hmm, is this girl a 7? Or..an 8? Wait a minute, is she a 9? Who the fuck cares? Would I touch her with my mouth? Then that's all that matters. Now let's see if she will touch me with her mouth.
/r/seduction31/08/20 05:51 PM
1

Although when you say that you don't let your feelings stop you from what you've chosen to do Here's an example. Let's say I choose to find a girl to enjoy a bit of life with, but then when faced with seeing a girl that I would like to speak to, I'm suddenly afraid. Now you've questioned how I could possibly choose what to do here and you've questioned my motivations, which are in conflict, right? They're not for me. I've decided what I want and I know that two feelings have caused these conflic…
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:56 PM
1

Confidence is the surety that you're going to do what needs to be done, regardless of your feelings on the matter. Feelings happen and they're impossible to stop. Actions don't just happen or not happen. They're choices. When you stop allowing your feelings to dictate your actions, then you'll find what others perceive as confidence. I will never claim to be confident, but I can safely say that everyone around me thinks I'm the one of the most confident people they've ever met. I don't let my fe…
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:10 PM
1

It's ironic that I'm literally hopping in the shower right now.
/r/seduction23/08/20 11:32 PM
3

Feeling attacked, kiddo? Go get a tissue.
/r/seduction23/08/20 07:53 PM
-4

Man, you sound like a narcissist. All you do is put your own words and your own feelings onto others?
/r/seduction23/08/20 06:17 PM
2

I cut my own hair. I bought my guitar for $20 at goodwill and I don't take lessons. My scissors cost more than my guitar. Did you have a point to these questions? My original point, which you must not get, is that in any sub you'll find people with interests in that sub. You'll find beginners, you'll find people with a lot of experience. So your point about not finding good grooming tips in male grooming is stupid. Like saying you won't find good guitar players in r/guitar. Like saying you won't…
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:52 PM
3

What the hell are you talking about? You just took what I said and applied it to a completely different topic (I.e., whataboutism). Expecting only men to contribute to the 'fun' in the relationship while women can simply 'share their problems and insecurities' Where did I say that? Whiney bitch.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:45 PM
6

There, fixed. How does it matter how they're connected other than through analogy? Did you fail reading comprehension in grade school or are you being purposefully thick? Or do you have a social disorder like Asperger's? In which case, I apologize.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:35 PM
6

That's like saying you can't get advice on this sub because only virgins come here. It's like saying you won't find epic guitar players in r/Guitar. It's like saying people in r/Golfgti don't own any Volkswagens. That's stupid.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:19 PM
37

Other guy 3 times a month.
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:12 PM
1

Lmao it's just a prank bro! Chill!
/r/seduction23/08/20 03:10 PM
56

Dudes that smell like shit, dress like shit, have shit hair, and let their neck beard run free across their jugular will point to every other thing they don't have as to why they can't get with girls. Oh it's cuz I'm not tall enough. It's because I'm broke. It's because I'm not a male model. It's because I can't talk. It's because I have acne. It's because I drive a Prius. It's because you're a whiney bitch, that's why. You're a fucking drag to be around. You're not fun. You're not engaging. You…
/r/seduction23/08/20 12:58 PM
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Sleep brain totally skipped the "If" and hoo boy does that change the meaning.
/r/seduction16/08/20 12:55 PM
1

Why's it matter is a better question.
/r/seduction10/08/20 03:35 AM
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Don't ask a fish how to catch fish.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:54 AM
0

So.....all of my guy friends want to fuck me? Duh?
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:49 AM
3

Thanks, honestly after the first year, it's natural barring unforeseen health crises. Any fat dude reading this needs to know that a year of soul sucking life changes a lifetime and that it eventually becomes a normal baseline.
/r/seduction08/08/20 01:02 AM
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I used to be 330lbs. I dieted and exercised, lost 120lbs in one year. So it was like night and day how I was treated. For reference, I'm 6ft flat. Right at around 220lbs is when I started to see a difference. At 205lbs, that's about the most attention I received. The weight loss happened about 9 years ago so I've seen my weight fluctuate over the years and my results are pretty consistent. I'd say at 205 I have a nice "dad bod". I've been as low as 187.5 and I've gotten back as high as 230lbs. M…
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:06 PM
2

It's fine, I've been giving advice here for many years. I knew when I wrote this that it'd go down to the bottom. Don't nay say feel good posts if you want to be popular!
/r/seduction05/08/20 11:41 AM
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You can do this, but it won't lead to any less or any more drama. It won't lead to any less feelings, that's why. So go ahead and follow this advice if you don't want to get as far ahead in life as you actually desire. You'll get only as far ahead in life as you can being 100% forthcoming. Here's the deal, you'll end up giving information that isn't accurate anyways. You actually don't know what you want from women. Reason being is that each woman is different and you'll want different things fr…
/r/seduction05/08/20 01:22 AM
1

That's a bingo. It's the most normal thing about interacting with women. The only way to avoid the loss of interest is being careful to not put yourself into the kiss situation until you're ready to kiss them. Don't get too close, don't get intimate, unless you're ready to actually kiss her. If you miss that opportunity then she's either gonna slam you into the friend zone or just stop being interested/ghost.
/r/seduction01/08/20 06:01 PM
5

Like I said, I was simply making an example of what a double entendre is and you have created this entire thing as a completely different thing. I'm sexist? You're projecting. Seeing as you haven't seen me as a real person once yet, I'm going with probably! This entire fantasy is all yours, this issue is all yours, none of it is me or who I am. You keep getting side tracked by your sexist assumptions about the world and the people in it(namely: men, because you're sexist).
/r/seduction17/07/20 01:01 AM
5

i said “i know its a big move so i get it if you’re uncomfortable” Oh shit, play on player!
/r/seduction16/07/20 11:33 PM
9

Look, I've been giving advice here for around 5 years or so. I've seen your kind of post repeatedly through the years. There's a type of woman that comes here and puts herself on the receiving end of "a pick up line" or a PUA tactic post and says, "Eww yucky, you're gross and manipulative and that would never work on me!" I get it. No one wants to feel used or treated as an afterthought, so no one wants to be seen as trash that can be discarded. You've taken a certain context and ran with it in …
/r/seduction16/07/20 11:24 PM
5

Who said it was discreet? As far as what's funny or not, pretty subjective, so it's a good thing I've never tried to have sex with you.
/r/seduction16/07/20 08:49 PM
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Which do you think is more poetic? My red rose lying on a piano, or your tulips resting gently against my organ? That's a double entendre. It suggests her mouth on my dick. Her two lips. My organ. Here's another, it's a long "joke" set up, but you can drag a girl along with it until the very end and the pay off is hilarious, because they don't see it coming. So let's say we're both stranded in a desert, right? Now both of us have a couple items, I've got a keg tapper, and you've got a donkey tha…
/r/seduction16/07/20 06:42 PM
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Great, thanks.
/r/seduction17/06/20 11:21 AM
2

I get your point and I got it the first time, but your advice is still socially retarded and unrealistic. There's also further issues with your advice that you're leaving out, like that consent can be withdrawn at any time. So verbally gaining consent doesn't change anything legally. If a girl looks uncomfortable and hasn't said no, then sure, ask. If a girl seems uncomfortable for any reason, sure...ask. If she's following along and engaged, then you're a social retard to break that flow by see…
/r/seduction17/06/20 11:09 AM
1

No. It's that simple. No means no, the end. Your advice is socially retarded.
/r/seduction17/06/20 10:33 AM
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Hopefully you believe in the friendzone now. Avoiding friendzone 101: Meet girl. Talk to girl. Ask girl to hangout with you. Touch girl throughout hangout. Ask girl to go to private place. Kiss girl. Touchy girl more. That's what works. You know what doesn't work? Meet girl. Talk to girl. Ask girl to be your girlfriend, or tell her how you feel, or hangout ten times, then ask her to "go on a date" when you've technically gone on ten dates and never once touched or kissed her. You've put yourself…
/r/seduction15/06/20 11:41 AM
1

Do you talk like this to everyone? Because if so, it's ugly. No one likes you this way, kid. Doesn't matter if you were a supermodel, you ain't getting laid acting like a cunt all the time. Work on that shit "lmfaoooo"? You're disgusting, dude.
/r/seduction11/06/20 06:28 PM
2

I think the most of the issues are straight up lack of experience. If there were age tags next to each poster, a lot would make sense. Things that make sense to us are completely out of the realm of possibility in the minds of a lot of inexperienced guys here. If you simplify everything for them, they still don't get it. What do you do if a girl smiles at you? You talk to her. What then? Ask her to hangout. What then? You touch her. What then? You kiss her. What then? Are you fuckin serious, kid…
/r/seduction11/06/20 04:35 PM
1

I don't think I've explained well, I apologize. Let me try this way. "feeling undue awareness of oneself, one's appearance, or one's actions." And "preoccupied with oneself and one's affairs." Those are the first definitions for each term, and they both say the same thing using slightly different words, they're nothing close to opposite though. Neither has a positive or negative connotation at face value, either. Having the correct solid frame is about being aware that people have a proclivity t…
/r/seduction11/06/20 02:59 PM
1

Having your mind focused on what others are thinking is exactly the opposite of of being self absorbed/self centered. No, that's just what people normally think of when they hear self centered, a person that "only thinks of themself", but they don't see the full extent of what being self centered is. Even if you're hyper focused on what others are thinking about, you're still applying all of your energy into making the world fit your thoughts, your beliefs, so much so that you're projecting your…
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:46 PM
1

Bro, I'm not going to read your word vomit. I have no time for whiney bitches or garbage humans.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:31 PM
1

Naw, they're still all about themselves. They're not hyper focused on what others are actually thinking, they're only concerned with what others think about them. For example, I don't give a fuck. I'm not thinking about that at all, I'm not even thinking about what I think about myself. I'm thinking about situations I'm in, I'm experiencing. I'm in the moment, in my frame. That's when I started seeing results.
/r/seduction11/06/20 10:39 AM
1

I honestly think it's that most people are self centered, all they can think about is themself, or how another sees them, or puts their own thoughts onto others like, "there's no way this girl would ever like me" but she probably already does. They take away other people's choices and decisions, usually it's about attraction. A dude thinks he's ugly and so he refuses to let any woman disagree.
/r/seduction11/06/20 02:44 AM
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Women can't read minds and very often can't tell someone's attracted to them or see the fake confidence when someone's actually nervous. Actually, we all tend to overestimate other people's ability to read us, but also how much we're even being thought about at all. Read up on The Spotlight Effect and also The Illusion of Transparency. Your post is extremely influenced by cognitive bias and your own subjective reality, so the advice you're trying to give is extremely personally skewed. If I were…
/r/seduction10/06/20 12:28 PM
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If you were hoping this excerpt would sell your book, you shouldn't have picked the worst one. If this is the best one, then you need to rewrite your book.
/r/seduction09/06/20 11:28 AM
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It's better for me, my way, because of my life philosophy. I don't take life for granted, not mine, and not anyone else's. I could meet a woman today that blows me away and she could die tomorrow or I could die tomorrow. This moment we're in is when the "getting blown away" happens. Every second that you're in is the only second that's real. Every other second is only a fantasy in your head. So, when I see her and she smiles and I feel an urge to say anything at all, my life philosophy is still …
/r/seduction08/06/20 02:00 PM
2

Bingo, everyone wants to whine about looking like an average as fuck dude though. Boohoo, I'm not a male model, that's why I'm a virgin.
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:52 PM
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none of the shit talked about here matters if you’re not attractive. I started this journey fat as fuck, 330lbs, hair down to my ass crack, band t-shirts full of holes, size 48-50 torn jeans, baggy as fuck, and skateboard shoes. I lost 140lbs, didn't see results with women. I got a haircut, didn't see results with women. I wore tighter clothes, didn't see results with women. I started picking better shoes, didn't see results with women. I started feeling better with myself, who I was, and I star…
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:49 PM
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Yeah, you can even be married/non-monogamous and still catch feelings for random girls. Having options doesn't make feelings stop or any lesser for one over another, different relationships just create different feelings. Here's a parallel. I love my cat, but I still cried when my dog died. Doesn't mean I love my dog more, or that I wouldn't cry if it were my cat instead.
/r/seduction08/06/20 12:25 PM
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Problem for most young guys is not the intellectual understanding of this. You can say this exact thing for basically 100% of the advice I give in this community. What it all seems to boil down to is that they've all gotta get out there and figure shit out themselves. The talking is just a preparation. The asking of questions, getting answers, none of it makes any of the things easier to do. It just makes them feel prepared enough to start trying something.
/r/seduction08/06/20 12:20 PM
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Accept that she's left before you ever accept her into your life. Don't start anything with any woman that you aren't ready to walk away from at any time that it becomes necessary. Then accept that she can do the same to you at any second. Then you just enjoy life with her carefree. You don't get jealous, you don't get needy, you just enjoy things about her until it's time to end. Might never end, but probably will.
/r/seduction08/06/20 02:25 AM
1

Like I said, it's a trial and error process. What works for me is not going to work for you. It'd work for 0.1% of those who read this.
/r/seduction07/06/20 11:43 PM
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It's a trial and error process. Am I good at it? I got to results that I was satisfied with and anytime that I log on my OLD profiles with the purpose of finding new girls, then I'm pursued. Girls ask for my contact info, girls ask me to meet up. That's not the norm, from what I can tell, and it wasn't the norm for me when I started. I got better. My profiles, accounts, pictures, first messages, they all got better. What I ended up with was a successful strategy that I can use everytime I want t…
/r/seduction05/06/20 07:17 PM
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Why do dudes that suck ass online give advice to other guys about online? Everytime this is said, all I hear is, "Well, I suck shit at this, so obviously everyone else must or will, because it's obviously not me that's the problem." Bro, you suck at something and you can get better at it, but that's no reason to hand out stupid advice.
/r/seduction05/06/20 06:23 PM
1

It's just incredibly hard Correct, again...it's simple, not easy.
/r/seduction04/06/20 09:19 PM
2

Give meditation a shot, but really though. Not thinking about something, living in the moment, it's a practiced skill.
/r/seduction04/06/20 08:11 PM
2

Your insecurities are talking and that's about it. I didn't say just work out, but that's all you're focusing on. I said do what you can, then stop thinking about it. As long as you've done everything in your power to look better, then what else can you work on? Your crappy self esteem, because that's the most unattractive thing you have. You could have a 9in dick, perfect hair, 6'5", ripped abs, and if you were a whiney ass bitch, then that's all anyone will see. My looks didn't change after a …
/r/seduction04/06/20 07:40 PM
2

i think hating the way I look and not being confident in that is a huge part of the issue. So do some work to fix it. I weighed 330lbs and one year later I weighed 220. Still took me two years after that to figure out style and grooming I liked. Hell, I still change things up when I don't like what I'm seeing. I think my lowest was 187 and I probably look best at 200. After a point, I don't think about it. I do my hair, I do my beard, I wear decent looking clothes, then I don't think about my lo…
/r/seduction04/06/20 06:59 PM
3

That's only a lack of experience. I wasn't good at what I do when I started, I just kept going and going. I'm talking thousands and thousands of interactions. I'm not even sure at what point I became good at it. I know that it took a few years at least. It took at least two to see any positive results. After that it becomes a snowball that can't be stopped. At some point, it became natural for me to speak to people a certain way and behave a certain way personally and at that time it seemed that…
/r/seduction04/06/20 02:01 PM
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No, it is that simple though. Simple things aren't always easy. It does require work to make friends. Work: activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. People want friendships or relationships to just happen. They want a friend, girlfriend, or boyfriend to just appear in their lives and then stay there, without having to do any work. Your first response is, "Its not that easy..." and I never said it was, but I can't easily sympathize with anyone tha…
/r/seduction04/06/20 01:05 PM
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Join meetup, find a hobby that others do, join classes at gyms, talk to every person you see that you find interesting in any way. Treat each interaction as if they're your long lost friend. Eventually, people won't stop inviting you to do things and all you have to do is always say yes.
/r/seduction04/06/20 11:16 AM
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You sound normal, bud. You just sound like a virgin, which is how you should sound, until you learn what intimacy actually can be. Right now, it's all just fantasy and that's confusing. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with you.
/r/seduction29/05/20 12:17 PM
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Fake it til you make it. Expressing any part of yourself can be an anxious ordeal, whether it's sharing your art, your music, your public speaking, or just simply your eye contact. It's all a device that you practice using. It's learning to trust your ability to affect the world. It's learning that expressing yourself is okay regardless of the outcome. I sing and play the guitar. If I needed only positive responses from others, then I'd never get better at it, because I wouldn't do it. I used to…
/r/seduction26/05/20 12:29 PM
1

How to get put into the friendzone: Tell her how you feel. How to avoid friendzone: Ask her someplace private, then kiss her. Then touchy the boobies.
/r/seduction25/05/20 11:14 AM
2

-- Is it fun? It can be, once you're in the right mindset. Do you feel alive and in control of your life? More like just out living your life and accepting that there's hardly any control, just acceptance of things you cannot change, but changing the things you can. Are there downsides I wouldn't have thought of? You have to talk to literally hundreds of women. It gets tedious. Eventually, you realize very few really standout, but they're the only ones you're looking for really. Like if all you …
/r/seduction24/05/20 11:48 AM
2

It's commonplace, I just think it's the wrong message, which is widespread in the community.
/r/seduction21/05/20 02:27 PM
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I think I've been doing this for about 9 years or so and I've been on this sub handing out advice for about 5 years. I never talk about "game", it's always about being seductive. Game implies playing with women, or that there can be a loser and a winner, or maybe it implies that it's a specific thing used for a specific purpose relating to only women. I just don't like any of that, so I don't like the word. Seductive means tempting and attractive. It's a state and it's a passive thing. It doesn'…
/r/seduction21/05/20 01:17 PM
6

"Guys, stop following the advice here." Repeats the advice found here. Cool, dude.
/r/seduction19/05/20 02:56 PM
8

Grow some balls posted from a throwaway
/r/seduction15/05/20 01:22 PM
2

waiting until I reciprocated the feels to push it farther At any point in the 4 years, did you have a desire to kiss him and were you single? Did he make a physical move on you in those 4 years? Were both of you alone together in an intimate setting? Ever do any platonic cuddling? If the two of you maintained physical distance and avoided intimacy until years later, then that's not the friendzone, that's just being friends. That's fine, too. "The friendzone" isn't fine. It's emotional parasitism…
/r/seduction15/05/20 11:28 AM
2

Touch throughout the date, a lot. Do a quick playful peck on the lips at some point during the date. Literally, a one second ordeal. Then just keep doing shit you were doing like it never happened. It'll make things about a million times easier at the end.
/r/seduction12/05/20 06:42 PM
1

Because men are the majority contributing, but there's nothing stopping women from contributing.
/r/seduction11/05/20 03:28 PM
20

There's not much difference in regards to self improvement for women. You gain hobbies, improve skills, focus on diet and exercise, improve various aspects of your life and then you simply become more desirable to others.
/r/seduction08/05/20 02:59 PM
1

Texting and escalating basically feels like it does when you escalate in person. Sometimes you're not exactly sure they want you to touch them, so you just touch them a tiny bit and see how they respond to it. If they don't seem to be into it, then you don't go further than that. The goal is this: get her to think about sex. Right? Right. So you look at everything she says and start spinning it that direction. You can do it a little bit at a time. I will usually ask questions and just escalate t…
/r/seduction08/05/20 11:47 AM
1

What the fuck is this bullshit? Get the fuck out of here.
/r/seduction06/05/20 10:08 PM
6

Seriously, this guy over here kink shaming.
/r/seduction01/05/20 03:03 PM
1

Yeah, I was fat my entire life (330lbs) until I was 27-28. Then for the next two years I had to learn to accept other's attraction towards me. Then for another couple years I had to learn that even just being attractive I still have work to do to keep them attracted, or rather, not do unattractive things. The way I got over it was to realize that I have no right to take away other people's thoughts. I can't say, "This person definitely thinks I'm ugly" just like I can't say, "This person definit…
/r/seduction30/04/20 12:09 PM
1

Never thought to look for an app, sorry. Set a time in your day devoted to it and just begin.
/r/seduction26/04/20 09:30 PM
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This is less a meditation and more of visualization, but I would like to explain why specifically meditating helps with confidence. People who don't meditate don't really grasp the point, so here's an explanation for that, too. Meditation is just training your brain to return to not thinking. Thoughts will come and you let go as quickly as possible, returning to thinking about nothing. Focusing on your "now", you use the now to not think about Sarah, or Bob, or your job, or your mom. You focus o…
/r/seduction25/04/20 12:21 PM
3

Exactly. What makes others uncomfortable about masculinity is no concern of yours. You define masculinity, as long as you're a man. Own that shit, just like me, brotha. We are men, we decide what's manly. I have had a woman say to me, in bed, "Can I cup your balls for a second? No homo..." while she is cupped into one arm, and another cupped into my other arm. Like how the fuck could it be gay? How could my masculinity or straightness be threatened? It can't. It fucking can't. I am me. Clearly o…
/r/seduction25/04/20 01:57 AM
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What I can say from personal experience is to give zero fuckin fucks about what other people say and choose to do you. Be your idea of what a man is, if you're a fuckin man. Are you a fucking man? Then is anything you do feminine? Nope. So fuck them. What I see personally is conflicting. Some will say what I do is feminine, others say I'm the manliest man they've ever met. So what do I do to "fix" that, huh? What do I change to be manly? Not a damn thing, bro. I am me and I'm okay with that. You…
/r/seduction24/04/20 08:04 PM
11

but they don't want to stay attractive Reconsider your stance on this one, bud.
/r/seduction21/04/20 11:22 PM
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Sure, on the extreme side of things, it's unattractive to women. It's about balance, like everything else though. You can't say that what he did isn't unattractive either, right? Let's say you give a guy some attention, who you thought was out of your league, and then he jumps all over you and gets all up in your face. You think that's attractive and you're still about it? Would you rather him just keep acting the way he was that made him attractive to you in the first place and seeming out of y…
/r/seduction19/04/20 05:58 PM
1

More like playing the game the way you can to get ahead. Sort of like when you're a kid playing a fighting game against friends and spamming sweep. They might call you cheap, but they can't win against it, otherwise they wouldn't be little bitches about it in the first place. It isn't cheating, it's just something that works on some people. Until yoga fire comes along.
/r/seduction17/04/20 11:36 AM
3

Oh? Ace is slang for asexual? If so, then I apologize for everything.
/r/seduction17/04/20 02:08 AM
1

Do whatever works for you. I agree, and that's a message I try to share most.
/r/seduction17/04/20 01:55 AM
11

If you break it down in simple terms. You're a peacock, you display your feathers. The woman goes, "yeah...definitely" or "naw" and you just strut off to the next hen. That's literally how it all works. Unless you're a duck, women don't like ducks.
/r/seduction17/04/20 01:53 AM
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No offense, but I don't know you, so I have a hard time believing sincerity here. Others might, but I really can't see why you'd ask a question like that, the way you did, without hostile intent behind it. You were just honestly curious why anyone would be here, unless they were entirely unsuccessful with women? You weren't questioning his ability with women? You weren't implying that he wasn't as good with women as he suggested just because he's here? There's all levels here. There's virgins, t…
/r/seduction17/04/20 01:48 AM
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That's fine, but like I said, I have been here for years. I've been posting for 5, reading for more than that. So it's really about sticking up for the entire community, creating a community, a club. A welcoming one for everybody interested and we've been seeing a lot more women posting here too. So I'd like to think it's because of people like me sticking around and sticking up for others too.
/r/seduction17/04/20 01:35 AM
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Just gonna say OP is correct, but I also want to say that some of you might not like the results and it's fine if you do not. Women will absolutely throw themselves at you and personally, I find it repulsive. I like when women play the game, just like I do. I like when they're demure and coy. I like a woman's seductiveness as much as I like feeling seductive. So I can't say I like it when women touch me when I haven't decided to be touched, or touch them. It's fuckin gross sometimes and I don't …
/r/seduction17/04/20 12:00 AM
0

Boo fucking hoo. Great attitude, child.
/r/seduction16/04/20 11:55 PM
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Most guys are scared to show sexual intent. Yea, most guys are scared to show sexual intent. They don't touch, they don't kiss, they don't eye fuck girls with eye contact right into their brains. They're still thirsty, they still wanna fuck, they still wanna chase a girl and do all the things they think will get them laid, but they're too chicken shit to touch a girl. Which has absolutely nothing to do with your point or goes against OP's point. Women absolutely know that I would fuck them, they…
/r/seduction16/04/20 11:53 PM
2

Not to sound like an asshole, but who are you to dictate the terms of why a person should or should not be here? You think this place could exist in anyway if there weren't successful men to guide less successful men into better roles? If not, then why would this sub even exist? Just a lonely sounding board for losers to be like, "There there, SallySue"? I've been here for years, just to help shit heads and cool dudes find a better path to take with women. Am I here because I suck ass at women, …
/r/seduction16/04/20 11:45 PM
3

I'm allowed to talk to any person I see. When I talk to them, they're allowed to tell me that they don't want to talk. When I see an attractive woman, it doesn't mean she's mentally or emotionally attractive, so I need to discover more than just her physical attractiveness, which is immediately apparent. Women exist everywhere, so when I'm looking for women to meet, I look everywhere. Online dating is what I use at night, just to pass time. During the day, I just put myself wherever I want or ne…
/r/seduction15/04/20 12:22 PM
1

Or right!
/r/seduction14/04/20 05:49 PM
1

I don't necessarily disagree with a majority of your post, but there are some things I disagree with that I can't ignore. Because what I noticed is that the most helpful posts don't typically get the most upvotes. You don't think that perhaps posts which align with your personal beliefs and bias affects this perception you have? so I recommend not judging posts based on the number of upvotes and maybe sort by "New" instead of the default "Hot posts" and actually take the time to read and underst…
/r/seduction14/04/20 05:05 PM
2

Naw, we're not rushed in the morning. We're up at 5:30am everyday and I make coffee, bring it to her in bed, then we shoot the shit for an hour before getting ready for the day. Usually between 5:30 and 7:30 when we walk out the door, there's no overlap in morning routines, besides having coffee together. I have slightly more coffee, so she's usually showering then going downstairs to make lunches. Then I finish coffee and shower and get ready. All pooping or pissing happens naturally without ov…
/r/seduction14/04/20 03:22 PM
2

Nope, can't say it's ever been a problem. We don't bicker or argue, either. Something I notice is normal in many other relationships. Then again, we seem to have a very different relationship than other couples in many other ways, too. Like I said, different strokes for different folks!
/r/seduction14/04/20 03:17 PM
4

I’m just trying to poop IN someone U wot m8?
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:41 PM
1

Different strokes for different folks. Been with my wife coming up on 17 years, neither of us have seen the other piss or shit.
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:40 PM
15

What the fuck cringey shit is this?
/r/seduction13/04/20 06:23 PM
5

Take care of all the things in your power: body, clothes, smells, hairstyle, facial hair, etc. After that, stop thinking about your looks, because they're not for you. They no longer matter. After that, it's just your job to find out which women find you attractive. If they don't, oh well. If they do, oh well. Your personal opinion doesn't matter. If you think you're not as fuck, there's women that disagree. If you think you're ugly as fuck, there's women that disagree. No matter what you think,…
/r/seduction10/04/20 01:28 PM
3

Every action is a choice, but no feeling is ever a choice. Apply that sentence to everything in your life. Can't look a girl in the eyes because it makes you uncomfortable? Or because you've chosen to not look her in the eyes? Can't ask a girl out because you're afraid of rejection? Or because you've chosen to not ask her out? Everything is simplified to just feelings and just actions. Once you realize that you can separate the two things, nothing stops you ever again. I am allowed to be afraid.…
/r/seduction09/04/20 02:05 PM
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You're mixing up two concepts: masculinity and being macho. You don't have to be aggressively prideful of being a man in order to be masculine. That pride is what's denigrated. Macho men are full of insecurities and those insecurities cannot be contained. They always bubble to the surface and everyone sees them. Macho men become the butt of jokes, because their insecurities become revealed, and suddenly it's plain to see why they feel a need to be aggressively masculine. Pride comes before a fal…
/r/seduction08/04/20 12:15 PM
3

You end up in the friendzone by not making moves when a girl wants you to make moves. That goes for face to face interactions and texting. Know what you get when girls like you and you're texting? Pictures of pussies and titties. But you do you, bud.
/r/seduction07/04/20 10:37 AM
3

The question is how to improve Over a two year period, 9 years ago, I spoke to around 3-5 thousand women. That's your answer, whether you like it, or not. You go do it and you get better. Only you know what you fail at, because you're the one doing it. Only you know what needs to improve, because you're the one doing it. Only you know if you're actually trying, someone else doesn't. Only you can push you to do the things you do or do not want to do. Only you can socialize yourself, someone else …
/r/seduction30/03/20 10:17 AM
1

I agree, because socializing doesn't come from me. You can either just do it, or you can make excuses why you won't.
/r/seduction30/03/20 10:00 AM
1

Ok bud, you've convinced me! You don't have to socialize, I give you permission to stay just how you are. That what you want to hear? Cool.
/r/seduction30/03/20 09:35 AM
1

Insert the word "simple", because my point is there's not an eloquent way to just feed the entire sum of our personal experience into one easily followed direction.
/r/seduction30/03/20 02:12 AM
1

That isn't how I approach and talk to women, I don't really care about having things in common. I'm interested in people for all of their differences. I'm not looking to have similarities or shared interests. I'm interested in learning something new from them. I do, on the other hand, have many interesting personal hobbies and skills. I have worked on myself in many ways. I have interacted with enough people to just know that I'll be interesting to them and likable. So yes, that part I agree wit…
/r/seduction30/03/20 01:19 AM
5

You're just wrong, outright. The reason you're wrong is because you aren't on the other side of the road. You're looking across the road and saying it's impossible to cross. Yet there's other people staring at you from the other side of the road and literally telling you, "You just have to walk across the road." Now then...why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. You can complain about it all you want, but it won't make you end up on the other side. You're asking, "BUT HOW D…
/r/seduction30/03/20 12:37 AM
1

So....the goal? The entire point of all of this? Yes, correct. Are you suggesting that this is contrived? You're describing chemistry.
/r/seduction30/03/20 12:27 AM
2

I say things in a way that they misunderstand In my experience, this doesn't change. The difference is that I've spoken to enough girls to know that it's a strength and not a weakness. If there's a failing caused from the misunderstanding, then it also isn't my fault. Perhaps my joke goes over their head, perhaps they didn't catch my double meaning, perhaps they just interpreted something I said to mean more than what I intended. In all those cases, I know that there's two parties involved. The …
/r/seduction29/03/20 11:02 PM
5

He was elaborating by placing restrictions and parameters. Events aren't the only place to socialize, and obviously you can't socialize if you don't socialize (I.e. Put yourself out there and "out of your comfort zone", which is just another restriction and parameter for the argument, which is founded on an idea that everyone who socializes isn't comfortable with it). It doesn't change my point, that you get better at socializing by socializing, regardless of the elaboration.
/r/seduction29/03/20 09:05 PM
9

Correct, that's my point.
/r/seduction29/03/20 08:56 PM
17

You're limiting the parameters and placing restrictions on this argument, moving the goal post.
/r/seduction29/03/20 08:34 PM
139

Yes, it does. The more you socialize, the more you learn from the interactions. The more people that you are exposed to, then the more broad your understanding becomes for others. The more experiences you're exposed to, then the more experiences you have to draw on in the future.
/r/seduction29/03/20 08:26 PM
1

Well, I'm pretty smooth most of the time, because I'm not worried about stuff. I don't waste time thinking about whether a girl likes me or not, because I just go on with the compliance test to find out where things go. I'd be using "practically deaf" because whichever side she moves onto, then I'd pick her up and move her to the other side with the excuse, "Of course you pick my deaf ear! Need you over here!" then wrestle her to the other side of me. And that's how I initiate physical contact. …
/r/seduction27/03/20 10:59 AM
2

I would've just asked her to move closer, compliance test. Come up with any ol' reason, "Hey, come sit closer to me? I'm practically deaf."
/r/seduction27/03/20 12:20 AM
3

Correct, she hasn't run away, she's still talking. Women do not stay near men they do not like. They get away.
/r/seduction27/03/20 12:19 AM
2

I'd just keep talking, if I liked her, and then I'd continue down my checklist, like I said. I'd see if she'll agree to be somewhere with me, etc. It's all about compliance, they're all tests. That way you don't have to wonder. Girl on the trampoline, were you touching her? Physicality raises interest in the kiss, provides comfort, and crosses a barrier to "introduce" you both to intimacy.
/r/seduction26/03/20 11:34 PM
1

I proceed down the checklist. Simplicity. Basics. That's all there is to it. If she keeps responding, then she's not disinterested, there's something there. It requires no more over thinking, at all.
/r/seduction26/03/20 12:54 PM
3

I'm never unsure, because I don't waste my time pretending that I can read thoughts. I base my personal decisions on other's behaviors. If I'm walking down the street and a woman crosses the street to avoid crossing paths with me, then I don't think she would like me crossing the street to purposely cross paths with her. If I get close to a woman and she moves away, then I don't try to touch her. If I speak to a woman and she speaks back, then I move forward with my checklist. It's that simple. …
/r/seduction26/03/20 10:54 AM
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Compliance Checklist: Does she like talking to me? Check. Will she agree to be somewhere that I am? Check. Will she allow me to be close to her? Check. Will she allow me to touch her non-sexually? Check. Will she allow me to touch her on the leg, on the neck, on the stomach? Check. Is she staring into my eyes and letting my face get within inches of hers? Check. Is she kissing me back, now? Check. Will she allow me to touch her intimately? Check. Will she allow me to take off an article of her c…
/r/seduction26/03/20 12:09 AM
1

I think there's all kinds of ways and philosophies to live life happily, but it's honestly up to the individual to create the happiness. Your fulfilment may include a partner, but you still have to find a center as you search for that person with whom to share life. I usually have decent experience related to seduction, so as to provide decent advice. I have to admit here that I'm at a bit of a shortcoming, because I've not been single in my entire adult life. I just turned 37 and I've been with…
/r/seduction22/03/20 11:59 AM
1

I think it just took time. Honestly, I felt a ton of resentment towards women that found me attractive based entirely on looks. I could tell like night and day the women who were attracted and who weren't, because I had so much experience being unattractive before. So when women liked me without opening my mouth, my first thought was, "You don't know shit about me! Idiot!" Now it's different and I realize that they can still not like me after finding out who I am lol so that sorted out my though…
/r/seduction22/03/20 01:15 AM
1

It is, I left out about a year and a half or two where I still dressed like shit, had a dip shit haircut, and walked around with the same fat guy inside my head. Although, I did get catcalled without girls being able to see my face at the beginning, so I don't know. A little of column A, little of column B. I personally do not think I'm handsome, but I've been told enough times that I am, so I am. My looks are polarizing, some people think I'm repulsive, others think I'm the hottest thing on the…
/r/seduction21/03/20 10:25 PM
0

First off, I'm happy for you, dude. Next thing needs to be said, because from what I can tell based on everything you've said, you're all over the place. You make very emotional decisions, very quickly. You latch on to successes, you latch onto failures. You're a passionate person and you base decisions on those passions. So here's some advice. Chill out on this current girl. A couple weeks is hardly a relationship yet. You're elated and run to reddit to make a self congratulatory post, but you …
/r/seduction20/03/20 11:35 AM
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I've been into seduction for about 9 years and you're not wrong, but you have to be fair and acknowledge that everyone learns differently and no one reads the same thing in the same way. One guy could've read this same message ten different ways and finally this is the one that made sense to him. All I've been doing in my 5 years on this particular sub is repeating myself, because I know that some people can relate to me and my form of the same message.
/r/seduction19/03/20 12:09 PM
2

Nah bro, he meant to type fat instead of muscle.
/r/seduction19/03/20 11:02 AM
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The hardest way to burn muscle is through cardio. The easiest way to burn muscle is through calorie deficit and some type of fasting (do your research on Intermittent Fasting). When you fast, your body has to start eating body fat to give you energy. Think you might've messed up a bit here. Edit: Top comment, might as well use the visibility. In 2010 or '11 I weighed 330lbs. One year later I weighed 220lbs. I had hard labor jobs (butcher, warehouse worker, etc) and also worked out at the gym two…
/r/seduction19/03/20 01:38 AM
1

There's a ton of miscommunication and misunderstanding going on in this thread. First, there's OP that automatically thinks because women show interest first, that game means nothing, but that's because his understanding of "game" is a bit skewed. Second, others not recognizing that women initiate interactions far more than men perceive. Game is a bag of tricks at your disposal, that you've learned works time after time. They aren't necessarily manipulative tactics, they're just things that you'…
/r/seduction17/03/20 11:14 AM
5

I mean, totally depends on the vibe, but I've used, "You plan on having kids?" And they usually say, "Well, someday! But not for years." to which I respond, "So you just wanna practice in the meantime?" then they always give me the, "oh you" look.
/r/seduction16/03/20 11:46 AM
1

What are you trying to accomplish with that negative question? Think about it, how do I answer that? Do I know you? Do I know them and their relationship to you? Did you really expect good advice here or sympathy? What am I supposed to respond to here?
/r/seduction14/03/20 11:48 AM
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I regularly contribute to posts and give advice. I'm none of the types of people you listed and I've been contributing for over 5 years. I've seen posts like this since forever. People come in, read a bit, get annoyed by something and then criticize the entire community. They do this rather than contributing to the community at all, which just takes away from the community and adds to the problem. I was a fat, smelly, shitty dressed, shitty haired guy that sucked at talking to women. I've built …
/r/seduction12/03/20 12:07 AM
4

Oh for fuck's sake.
/r/seduction11/03/20 07:31 PM
0

The point? You suck at texting and it won't get you into anyone's bed, so just admit that you suck at something that others can be good at. Your opinion is "texting doesn't work", when it works just fine for others that don't suck at it.
/r/seduction11/03/20 06:58 PM
7

Hey look everybody, this guy has an opinion. Get a load of this guy!
/r/seduction11/03/20 02:04 PM
68

After years of handing out advice on this sub, I can't believe this is still suggested regularly. If you suck at texting, yeah don't text back and forth. If you don't suck at texting, then she's practically falling in love before the date even happens.
/r/seduction11/03/20 11:22 AM
3

Just a few things after reading your question post. I am good with women and I'm optimistic, but not necessarily optimistic that a date will go well or that a woman will be seduced by who I am. Optimistim is just my state of being. I'm generally positive oriented, positive mood, pleasant minded. I will be before a date and I will be after a date. A woman isn't going to change that. It's a thing I accept as reality beforehand, because then she's allowed to be whoever she is. She's allowed to like…
/r/seduction11/03/20 12:43 AM
3

Just fleshing it out with you, bud
/r/seduction10/03/20 09:02 PM
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Thing is that most people lacking confidence thinks confidence is a positive outcome mindset. It can be, but that's usually an overconfident mindset. Everyone I know, everyone I meet, describes me as confident, charismatic, etc. My "secret" is personal neutrality. I don't judge myself, I don't judge future outcomes, I don't take away other people's decisions in my own mind. I just be. I just let others be. I have a desire to do something, so I do it. There's unnecessary thoughts that follow whic…
/r/seduction10/03/20 06:20 PM
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Man, you sound jaded af. You also have all these examples of experiences and still haven't learned the necessary lesson. You're so close though, but maybe you can't hit the final mark because you're so self centered. Look, nothing is a for sure thing. Girls aren't and you aren't either. No it's not "different with girls." It's the exact same thing. Every person is an individual. Everyone can change their mind at any minute of any individual life. A healthy relationship, both parties acknowledge …
/r/seduction10/03/20 01:11 PM
2

I hope you figure things out. Good luck, kiddo.
/r/seduction07/03/20 07:51 PM
3

You sound like an immature brat and when you can't win an argument, you just start lashing out and attacking the person, rather than the argument. You have no place here, kid. You shouldn't be giving anyone advice. You need to work on yourself. A lot.
/r/seduction07/03/20 07:29 PM
2

Most women with eyes do, yes. They see something attractive and they can definitely have sexual thoughts, just like men. Attraction isn't that complicated, it's a very simple feeling. The feeling itself doesn't dictate or necessitate any kind of action and since you're a man, that's the bit to which you can't relate. You feel attraction, then you take an action. I believe your confusion here is that since women often don't take action after that initial feeling, then they must not have the feeli…
/r/seduction07/03/20 05:43 PM
2

most girls don't get pleasure from fucking guys they just met. This has nothing to do with the argument at hand. You said that it's impossible for women to feel initial attraction, which makes you sound ridiculous.
/r/seduction07/03/20 05:05 PM
2

You're attacking a straw man now and changing the argument. Get out.
/r/seduction07/03/20 04:32 PM
2

I've laid in bed with multiple women and discussed this. You're wrong.
/r/seduction07/03/20 04:21 PM
2

Man, you are so delusional. This is ridiculous.
/r/seduction07/03/20 03:47 PM
12

Women do get instant attraction to both men and women. Women also get aroused visually, like men. Women do see nice tits/ass and become attracted/aroused. So the rest of your post is hard to take seriously. The only thing I agree with here is that guys should be talking to more women, but that's reiterated everyday here. Your post doesn't add anything to the sub, except for misinformation.
/r/seduction07/03/20 02:15 PM
1

Yea, that's also a point I made. The last bit.
/r/seduction05/03/20 11:52 PM
2

I don't really have a horse in this race, I just typed the question into Google real quick and found a psychology today article at the top
/r/seduction05/03/20 08:07 PM
68

I get that you're trying to send a good message and that's fine, but there's way too much in your post that "correlation is not causation" needs to be said. The leaps of logic you make are based on solid correlates, but you just seem way off on your causes. If you aren't happy with yourself, no amount of casual sex will fix that. Yeah, true. They are also waking up to the fact that there is a better way and that girls too want sex, but in a more natural way (i.e. in a relationship). Disagree. Th…
/r/seduction05/03/20 08:00 PM
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r/niceguys is what the OP is talking about and also the guy arguing with you. Head on over there and see what a NiceGuy™ is. You're a nice person, not a NiceGuy™.
/r/seduction05/03/20 12:33 PM
1

What feeling of mine is provoking this action? Is the action based on negativity, insecurity, anxiety, anger, or is it based on positivity? If I think something like, "Why isn't she responding?" then I'm not going to send a message. If I think something like, "Wonder if she's free tonight?" then I'm going to send a message. I have insecurities, everyone does, but women/friends/acquaintances all tell me that I'm the most confident person they've ever met. I have feelings, I just try to avoid any …
/r/seduction04/03/20 12:28 PM
1

You know the risks and I know you ignore them, and will probably keep ignoring someone caring about you, but it never stops me from trying. I only post on seddit to help other bros lives. What am I hoping? That you actually don't die in traffic. There's other ways to feel alive than those risks. That phrase is what started this. If you had said any other thing about riding your motorcycle, then I probably wouldn't have bothered. If that's what you need to feel alive? Not cool.
/r/seduction03/03/20 09:31 PM
1

I've ridden dirt bikes, motorcycles are fun. Public roads? I'll stick to airbags, seatbelts, antilock brakes, etc. Things that protect me from other's stupidity.
/r/seduction03/03/20 09:24 PM
1

If you see me try to get on a motorcycle, please stop me. And if I see you put a gun to your head, I'll try to stop you. Deal?
/r/seduction03/03/20 09:13 PM
1

You are always one second away from the next second that can change your life. Every profound experience you go through does only one thing for you everytime. It changes your perspective. Your perspective is literally all that you have through life. It's the only thing that makes you who you are right this second. The next second contains a new experience, therefore a new you. You read something, you feel something, you see something and suddenly your perspective changes. Perhaps you get hurt an…
/r/seduction03/03/20 09:07 PM
0

Russian roulette is a blast.
/r/seduction03/03/20 08:52 PM
37

r/thatsthejoke yes
/r/seduction01/03/20 01:24 PM
1

<3
/r/seduction28/02/20 11:13 AM
2

Yeah, I agree. I picture myself as a rollercoaster. It can't always go up and 200mph, straight into twirly flips and it also can't go slowly straight for twenty miles either. If I'm being too boring, I'll throw in some "Fuck your face, Sally!" just to mix it up, straight back into, "So sorry about your family situation, that sounds rough sadface."
/r/seduction27/02/20 01:52 PM
13

"Haha, thanks!" is my go-to line. I stole it from every girl ever. Sometimes, people persist and throw in a, "No, I'm serious, it's so 'insert words'!" Then you gotta match that shit with a, "Haha, no seriously, thanks!" But man, then they call in reinforcements and say, "I just can't get over it!" So, it's just time to flirt your dick off.
/r/seduction27/02/20 12:31 PM
2

Fuck yeah, I love paper, rock, scissors! motions paper/rock/scissors This one time, I played my brother best two out of three for who gets to ride shotgun, and I lost. motions a shotgun blast But guess what?! I yelled shotgun on the way to the car! HAHAHA! double shotgun blast
/r/seduction27/02/20 12:14 PM
2

There's a lot of "correlation is not causation" in your post, but it's accurate enough advice, that it'll do most dudes that read this well enough. Another guy made a point that if you're good at seducing women, you can look like Shrek and still do fine. You still need to dress Shrek in nice clothes that fit, you still need to brush Shrek's hair, Shrek still needs to groom his facial hair, and Shrek still needs to smell good. I'm a "chubby" dude, basically dad-bod or possibly worse. I carry myse…
/r/seduction26/02/20 12:50 PM
1

I don't see them, because I use RiF and not the reddit app.
/r/seduction25/02/20 03:14 AM
5

So it seems like advice tailored to a 20 year old who wants to get with older women that find him attractive?
/r/seduction25/02/20 12:24 AM
13

You know all those thoughts you have about, "Are they really into me as much as I think?" you just replace them with, "I would act this way to get exactly what I want from this woman." The thing is that you're young and dumb, so you don't know how to act to do that. You just have to learn what works and what doesn't. I'm supposedly attractive, I won't claim that I'm attractive personally. I just know for a fact that others find me attractive, so I can act on that fact whenever I feel like it. I …
/r/seduction24/02/20 09:27 PM
1

Yes, I agree, and that's what I did. Just quit using Facebook altogether.
/r/seduction22/02/20 07:30 PM
3

Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Broke up with a bisexual sociopath. She tells her ex gf that I raped her. The ex gf was part of the Facebook group and so she makes a slander post, posts my name, my pictures, my online dating profiles, etc. Then I get spammed with women I've never met before calling me a rapist. I get sent a bunch of screenshots of other women saying that I raped them, too! Women I've never met before or seen in person, ever. The night that I supposedly "raped my ex girlfriend" was a night…
/r/seduction22/02/20 12:51 PM
2

"You guys"? There's a ton of different guys here, I'm sure there's even a minority that call girls sluts. I'm sure they get down voted a lot.
/r/seduction22/02/20 11:21 AM
6

I have dealt with one of these fuckin groups. It's insanity. One girl spouts bullshit about me, second hand. Then ten girls chime in making claims about me. Like the fuck? I don't know any of you. Not one.
/r/seduction22/02/20 11:03 AM
71

Whines constantly, scared of everything, negative views on everything, including themselves, yet still thinks they're better than others, talks shit more than does shit, jealous and envious of other's success, compares themselves to others regularly.
/r/seduction20/02/20 09:50 PM
7

Look, there's a caveat to this. You don't have to chase women and you should be the best version of yourself. The caveat is that once you're a good version of yourself you still have to put yourself out there. A rooster struts his shit. He doesn't just walk off and stay out of eye shot of all the hens. When the hen shows interest, he also climbs on and does his business, he doesn't just wait for her to try and slide underneath him. You strut your shit. You display how great you are and then you …
/r/seduction18/02/20 04:34 PM
1

Have you ever tripped on acid? Yes and the experiences can be categorized as chemicals that I enjoyed experiencing, just like love can. My perspective towards life has been changed by both things. My understanding of life changed from both things. My understanding of perspective itself has been changed by both things. Both chemicals and all feelings related are only as real as I am. All that I know is all that I am.
/r/seduction17/02/20 11:17 PM
1

This was my point all along albeit long winded and with some logical holes. Not sure why you butted heads to then agree with me in the end. I know that is what your point was and it's why I listed it the way that I did and let you know that I agreed with that point after the fact. I also pointed it out that it wasn't relevant to the point I was making and was detracting from it. Like I said, you put your argument into the form of a straw man attack and went after the idea of love, rather than ac…
/r/seduction17/02/20 11:11 PM
1

I don’t see the irony. Are you suggesting that my position is also a product of an illusory free will? The irony is that you're pushing an agenda that's irrelevant. The agenda belongs to another, which sounded good to you and you held onto it for these types of topics. The irony is that it's causing you to not fully grasp the other party's major point. From what I read, I think you’re saying that the experience of love is subjective and since it’s subjective it is real. Is that what you are sayi…
/r/seduction17/02/20 06:05 PM
0

in order not to "catch" feelings for one of them. :) That's a whole other level of emotional immaturity. That's not related to what I said. Never said someone should do that.
/r/seduction17/02/20 10:30 AM
3

None of what you said addresses my entire point, which is that "love" however you want to define it, is experienced and felt. That feeling is experienced by individuals and that's just as much of a fact as the science behind it, otherwise it wouldn't have been studied in the first place. So while you've gone on even further to define love, you've completely missed the point of the conversation. Making this bit... all the while allow them to think they are exercising free will the entire time. Ve…
/r/seduction17/02/20 03:17 AM
-4

Personally, I can't do the multiple options things. I actually enjoy only talking to/investing my time in one person even if that person doesn't care to see or talk to me as often as I'd like. Why? Why can't you? And why do you only enjoy one person at a time? If you are busy enjoying that one person, how can you enjoy your friends then? Is there actually a ceiling for your capacity to love? You love your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, your friends, your cat, your dog, but you o…
/r/seduction17/02/20 01:40 AM
3

That doesn't matter one bit. Feelings as defined by any other person or society doesn't mean anything to an individual, because that feeling only exists inside ourselves. That's exactly why my point stands perfectly on its own. No matter who the person is, or what the person is feeling, their action is all that matters in this world. People that say it's just a chemical aren't saying anything at all. They're repeating the same information, defined in their own preferred interpretation. What you'…
/r/seduction17/02/20 01:27 AM
10

You are absolutely correct, bud! You are entirely capable of choosing what to do with that feeling, too. You do not have to let it dictate your actions. You can choose to make good actions with your feeling of love or you can choose to make bad actions. Some people hurt those they love. Some people ignore those they love. Some people try to reject those they love, because they feel they don't deserve it. Some people stalk those with whom they fall in love. Some people kidnap those they love. Som…
/r/seduction16/02/20 09:29 PM
184

I've said it a hundred times, because it applies to everything. Don't let your feelings dictate your actions. Anxious and don't want to approach? Approach anyway and don't let feelings dictate your actions. Insecure about being left on read, wanna spam her with more messages? Put your fuckin phone down and don't let your feelings dictate your actions. Insanely jealous with rage? Want to punch the guy or put three bullets in both their heads? Walk the fuck away, find a new girl, don't let your fe…
/r/seduction16/02/20 07:17 PM
23

There was definitely something off about her, but I couldn't pinpoint it. We dated for almost a year and it just slowly started to become apparent. Literally every facet of who she was had been completely fabricated just to seduce me. Everything she said was opposite to reality, because she believed it's what I wanted to hear. So she would soak up all this knowledge about me and then use it to craft the person "she was". Thing is that my memory for interactions with others is ridiculously accura…
/r/seduction16/02/20 03:57 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/epeoxp/3_things_to_remember_when_approaching_a_girl
/r/seduction16/02/20 10:40 AM
1

The hard truth, and what most people here won't tell you, is You can't smell like shit, dress like shit, and have a shit haircut.
/r/seduction15/02/20 06:43 PM
4

see a -2 and it takes little to no time to reach -14 Wisconsin weather, in a nutshell.
/r/seduction15/02/20 06:41 PM
37

How to enter the friendzone 101: "So...like I really like you and wanted to know if you wanted to like go on a date or something?" - As we're laying on a bed together.
/r/seduction15/02/20 12:53 PM
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The only difference between being a friend and being a lover is physical intimacy. People saying that not flirting is the problem, but what happens when you flirt and still end up as "just a friend"? A lover looks into your eyes. A lover kisses you back when you kiss them. A lover touches you when you touch them. A lover gets turned on by you and you get turned on by them. A lover wants to give you pleasure and receive pleasure from you. A lover also does every single other thing that a friend d…
/r/seduction15/02/20 12:29 PM
6

Your post should be the one at the top, so that everyone with the same problem can see why they are the "friend guy" and not the "fuck boy".
/r/seduction15/02/20 12:10 PM
1

I do recommend meditating. I've read enough scientific information to believe that it's only beneficial and can't hurt. I would say that it helped me other ways, but it's not honest to suggest I wasn't already successful with women before learning of meditation. My reasons for mediation were more related to being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and needing more ways to relax and manage stress to avoid relapses.
/r/seduction13/02/20 05:56 PM
2

I changed my hair, changed my clothing. Started a hygiene regiment, learned to cut my own hair, manicure a beard, manicured my nails, started working out, started various hobbies. I spoke to as many people as possible (mostly women) anywhere and everywhere, including online and off. Joined clubs on campus. Started saying yes to every, "Hey you should come to ABC for XYZ". Started expressing myself more often. Started offering others value in any situation I saw that I could help. I stopped shari…
/r/seduction13/02/20 05:15 PM
1

Uh, she's agreeing to spend time with you, that means it's touchy feely time. It's not beat around the bush time. You're proving to her that she's out of your league, by not showing her that you totally think you're absolutely, 100% in her league. The way you're supposed to act is that it's just a thing that's already happening. You're already in a sexual relationship and you just haven't been alone in a place to have sex yet. You should be testing compliance every step of the way until she pump…
/r/seduction12/02/20 12:35 PM
2

Like others posting, I was also right around 30yo. That's around the time when three-way relationships became my new normal. Going out on dates and shit with two women, threesomes, etc. First time I ever thought, "Shit, have I peaked yet? Am I at my final form?" Went to a comedy show. Comedian sees me in the front row, "Hey, man. Love the shirt. Who are these two beautiful women? They your dates? Wait, are you really on a fuckin date with two women?! How the fuck.... How do you do that? Ladies, …
/r/seduction12/02/20 12:25 PM
1

Well, that's still part of their look, no? It's what they could see with their eyes and not an elephant dick, 6 figures, or chicken parm that she's aware of, is my point.
/r/seduction11/02/20 11:44 AM
9

On the clock, doesn't want the cock.
/r/seduction10/02/20 11:54 PM
26

Well, being social is king. Having social status isn't the requirement. You can walk into a new situation and be the same person, who they have no clue about. Your demeanor, your approach, your treatment of others all clue people in to who you are and they will automatically assume your status. Like I have just stood outside some bar and had a guy walk up to me with his date. He says, "Hi..." and when I replied, "Good evening?" not sure why he'd bring his date over to me, his response was, "Oh, …
/r/seduction10/02/20 04:13 PM
2

I can't explain how it fucks a girl up, but I can say how you practice eye contact. You just gotta do it everywhere you go. Walking places against other people walking places is the best time to do it. Keep your head up and look at every person's eyes. Some will look at you, some won't. Some will make you comfortable, some won't. Some will look away quickly, some will hold for a bit and look away. That's what you end up learning. Eventually you can make it a choice to keep looking. Helps to thin…
/r/seduction09/02/20 12:45 PM
7

So patience is my "secret" to women. I wait until they want to give me their number. I wait until they want to go on a date. I wait until they want to kiss me. I wait until they want to fuck me. And I pounce on every opportunity that they display, when I want to do those things. When I'm actively running through a cycle with a ton of women, I don't have to be anything but patient, because of the abundance.
/r/seduction09/02/20 01:13 AM
1

and just enjoy the moment lol I don't think that has to do with me being married, but I'd be here sharing my whole life story to make it all digestible. Near death events, going blind randomly, multiple sclerosis, all the fun stuff about life. The sum of all my parts is why I just enjoy life. The next minute never matters, it's this one that's always real, ya know? My goals with women are extremely short sighted, but like....so is everything else lol Being able to walk is fuckin neato. Being abl…
/r/seduction08/02/20 02:03 AM
1

Bro, I'm married and non-monogamous. I don't think you're reading me right.
/r/seduction08/02/20 01:11 AM
1

It does relate to style choices but yes also personal goals, which is what you brought up. If I don't feel my time has been wasted, if I don't feel like my goal hasn't been met, then I lose nothing in the interaction except in the case of a quick rejection. I enjoy the process. I enjoy women. I enjoy the challenges. I enjoy working for things and feeling clever after having gotten the thing I want in a slick way. So my personal goals affect my style choices. The OP ridicules indirect approaches …
/r/seduction07/02/20 11:02 PM
1

In your opinion, that's probably true for you. In my opinion, I disagree with most of what you said, besides this part Indirect gives you plausible deniability I read the blog post about apocalypse opener and I also disagree with the author that it's as direct as you can get. It's entirely possible to use that same opener in an indirect way, with confidence, and see plenty of success with it because of plausible deniability. I don't agree that showing your cards immediately is more efficient. I …
/r/seduction07/02/20 08:45 PM
1

Exactly and it's extremely unfair. I can't stand unfairness, so it makes no sense to be unfair to myself, let alone others.
/r/seduction07/02/20 06:33 PM
0

I feel like you don't really understand indirect game.
/r/seduction07/02/20 12:39 PM
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What exactly are you thinking about when this happens? You need to train yourself to think about a different thing. Like if I can tell that I really like a woman, I know that I've been looking for her, because I know that I don't get super attracted to many women. They're gotta be super pretty, have a nice body, have a nice smile, have a nice personality, and be liking me back. So when all those things come together, I know it's go time, it's not stop time. I've trained myself to be on the look …
/r/seduction07/02/20 12:06 PM
1

Just say hi or good morning! It's that simple. You walk around with "I'm ready to smile" in your mind, rest your mouth, rest your eyes, think of something amusing. The moment you lock eyes, start to smile, then when you're about 5-8 feet away, just blurt out, "Morning!" You don't even have to stop. Just attach eye contact to verbal contact. You already look at people, that's already an expression of you! Just gotta start realizing your smile and a hello is the exact same thing. You're allowed! P…
/r/seduction07/02/20 11:49 AM
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I look at it as being a good friend to myself. I don't let people be jerks to my friends, I won't tolerate people being mean, or harmful. So then I just do that with myself, as if there's my friend and then there's this asshole who keeps talking shit to my buddy. Anytime he talks shit I say, "Hey dude, cut it out he doesn't deserve that." I hold myself accountable, keep myself on track avoiding the negative. It doesn't have to be sunshine and rainbows all the time, but there's no reason to let m…
/r/seduction07/02/20 11:45 AM
1

The way I look at it is that we're both their trying to like someone. I like it when girls are sexy and flirty, so do they. So, I'm actively seeking a way to maintain that feeling for the both of us. Even if they push it aside with a platonic response, then I see it as if they still responded, so they still like it, otherwise they'd be gone, they'd stop replying. I guess it's online plowing, like you do in person. Some women respond to flirts with their own, some just don't know how, and some ju…
/r/seduction07/02/20 02:15 AM
1

Why's that? Don't think I look good after a sweaty day of fishing? Darn, there goes my credibility. Edit: Definitely wouldn't put that picture on my dating profile.
/r/seduction06/02/20 08:05 PM
1

It means that you lack the confidence that I have and it makes me more attractive than you to women, so I get my choice of attractive women, and you do not. So you know what you should work on now. Your negativity and toxicity is apparent. I hope you succeed and get better, because your life will improve and so will the people with which you interact.
/r/seduction06/02/20 07:53 PM
3

I don't have anything to prove to you and I do not know you. I'm not going to use women that I do know and respect to assuage your challenge. I can tell you that none of them were overweight and all of them were extremely attractive to me, otherwise I wouldn't have slept with them. I am not a guy that "settles" and I've never slept with a girl I thought was "just okay" looking to me. On top of that, their attitudes and personalities have to be attractive as well. I don't maintain any kind of rel…
/r/seduction06/02/20 07:37 PM
7

Step one is pictures, very rarely you want to ever use a selfie, unless you've received a ton of compliments on it in particular. Considering compliments on individual pictures that aren't selfies, those are the ones you need on your profile. Maybe an auntie or grandma or random girl said, "You look so nice in this picture, Brandon!" on Facebook, then throw that one on your OLD profile. Build on that and have about 4 pictures that display you in a positive way and an interesting way, preferably …
/r/seduction06/02/20 03:09 PM
7

You're not wrong exactly, but OLDating is a facet of seduction that requires a different skill set. I was better at cold approach than I was at OLD and I didn't understand it at first. After working at it, I made huge progress, going from no matches to plenty. Then going from no responses to plenty. Then going from no dates to plenty. There was a ladder to climb with each level presenting different difficulties. I was already good at face to face interactions though, so once I moved to that, I w…
/r/seduction06/02/20 01:14 PM
3

She sounds like a narcissist and if you notice everything she said is rather off-topic. It's also all about herself and her experiences. There was no good reason to post any of the garbage she said and it didn't add anything to this conversation except her. You can even see that she made a post three weeks ago about one man misinterpreting signals in the workplace, similar to what she's asserting here. Again, she seems like a narcissist.
/r/seduction06/02/20 01:01 PM
2

First thing was just outlook. I had a health scare that just made me put things into perspective. Just a switch was flipped and I suddenly realized if I tried hard enough to live a healthy life, then I could actually increase how much life I get to have. I was around 25 at the time. When I had that realization it led to another realization. Why aren't I enjoying each minute I already have? Why try to live longer if I'm not living fully already? All of a sudden I felt peaceful. Nothing really fuc…
/r/seduction05/02/20 09:21 PM
3

Just saying, push/pull takes many forms and it doesn't necessarily have to be negative or come from a bad place. That's all my point was.
/r/seduction04/02/20 03:40 PM
4

It's an oblivious stance to take to not acknowledge human nature, in that we "don't want the unattainable" or that "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" or that we "don't like a challenge" or that "we want to work for it" or that "we don't like to be teased" or I could keep going. It is perfectly natural to find people desirable that aren't easy. It's perfectly natural to enjoy a tease. It's perfectly natural to want something that's barely within reach. It's perfectly nat…
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:22 PM
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I haven't read the book, but push/pull is a descriptive method that works. You do not need to be needy or have self esteem issues to be the kind of guy that does it. It's a natural behavior of a confident person, which like all methods of seduction can be applied by a person with low self esteem.
/r/seduction04/02/20 12:29 PM
2

All solid advice, good lookin out.
/r/seduction04/02/20 12:25 PM
2

As long as you never stop trying to be better, then this will happen for you, too. Use your successes and failures to always learn a new lesson. At some point, you reach a tipping point and you get overwhelmed by the success.
/r/seduction04/02/20 12:23 PM
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Fuuuuuuuuck no. I was basically retarded with women. I got put into so many god damn friend zones that my penis started turning inside out and I was turning into a woman. I even had titties! Nowadays, I feel like I have to be delicate towards women to not lead them on, because I am so fuckin good at flirting and seduction that I don't realize I'm doing it half the time. I just find myself talking to a girl and then they plant their lips on mine and I'm like, "Oops...." I went through a physical …
/r/seduction04/02/20 12:18 PM
2

Yeah, tall, handsome, rich, ten inch dick, perfect hair, expensive clothes, nice car....yep, I have it all. Wouldn't that be nice? Then everyone that's not able to walk up and talk to a girl without turning around and going home to masturbate instead wouldn't have to be at fault for their problems.
/r/seduction03/02/20 12:36 AM
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Yeah, but then I have to stop watching a show on Netflix with my wife and she gets all nosey.
/r/seduction02/02/20 10:56 PM
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I'm in debt, I'll be in debt forever, and I'll never be rich. I've laid in bed with two girls on my arms more than you've laid in bed with one girl, and you probably have more money than I do, right this second. You wanna keep making bullshit excuses, or are you here to learn life lessons? Grow up, wake up. You think your caveman grand pappy had money? That mother fucker spawned you and so did a hundred generations after him. Every single one of those bad mother fuckers would slap your whiney as…
/r/seduction02/02/20 10:43 PM
1

Naw, you're fine. I think the only advice I would give you is keep on keeping on with your self reflection. You seem to be self aware, so I'd work on that relating to your anxiety and comfort. Work on why you become uncomfortable, then work on how to maintain your comfort in most situations. Your attitude doesn't seem unattractive, your outlook seems healthy, and you don't seem unbalanced self esteem wise. You only seem unbalanced towards trusting your instincts about women. Which you can more e…
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:42 PM
2

And I'm over here thinking, "Gee, I've been saying some form of this message for 5 years on this sub." Feelings don't matter, it's what you do that matters. You're allowed to feel scared, angry, happy. It's okay. Just pick a correct action and do it. People use feelings as excuses. I see a pretty girl smile, I think about talking to her, I get anxious. Well, I'm scared so that's a good excuse to not talk to her. I come home and find my wife talking with another man, I get angry. Well, I'm angry,…
/r/seduction31/01/20 12:35 PM
2

People by default think if we don’t respond to guys positively I think a certain type of guy does, yes. A type that's clouded by hostile insecurity and toxic defense mechanisms. So my advice here is to help other types of men learn how to have completely normal interactions with women, by avoiding a toxic mindset. It shouldn't seem so nuanced, but I agree that it does. The basic information is simple. Points one and three are all that's necessary to have a healthy mindset when interacting. Shoul…
/r/seduction30/01/20 02:50 AM
2

Huh?
/r/seduction28/01/20 11:19 AM
1

No, I've had girlfriends that just see random dipshits without knowing a single thing about them and say they're hot, based only on looks. I can't see it, so I compare them to me and think, "Well, she thinks I'm sexy but look nothing like this guy." So I literally have no reliable metric, even your metric doesn't make sense, because I'm broke as a joke.
/r/seduction27/01/20 11:03 PM
0

You literally just linked to a post that supports my argument, not yours. You need to read my post again and you need to read that link again. I can't bother typing the same message to you, when you're proving that you have a failing level of reading comprehension. I can't think of another thing to say to you to get this point across in any better, simpler way. I also question whether you'll even understand this post. I feel like I've totally wasted my time here. You've misinterpreted 100% of th…
/r/seduction27/01/20 02:07 PM
1

You will notice a lot of hot educated women with men that are a 6 or 7 at best for partners. No, what I notice is that I have no reliable metric for judging a man's attractiveness, whereas women think men are hot as fuck and I think they look like total dipshits.
/r/seduction27/01/20 12:09 PM
3

Alright, here's where you fucked up. You talked to her about your feelings. Don't ever do that again without touching/kissing a woman. You will get slammed into the friendzone every time you try. What you did is a simple mistake that most dudes make early on in their experiences with women. You had checked all the boxes necessary for an actual relationship with her, then you fucked it up by talking about it as if it didn't exist. The way you correct this so that it never happens again is to defi…
/r/seduction26/01/20 01:51 PM
3

On top of your trope about being in charge being the core of dominance, which it is, to take the next step in making sex more dominant you want to make your sex feel bad. You want to feel and act like you're playing for the dark side and doing something that would shock and offend other people. Infuse an energy of sinfulness and vice into the act as well. This all comes across as your close minded opinion. This is just your take on dominance, it doesn't make you right, or another person wrong. Y…
/r/seduction26/01/20 12:21 PM
4

You're ignorant of what people actually say about looks. Here's what is actually said: 2+1 = 3, but 2 can't tally up to 3 without 1. Then you make a post that says: And people say 1 doesn't matter. No one fuckin says only looks don't matter, they say there's more to it than looks. They get your foot in the door. If you are an idiot, or boring, or a whiney bitch, then your looks won't help you (they don't matter). If you're ugly, but funny, intelligent, exciting, then looks still won't matter. Yo…
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:59 PM
12

You might want to look at why it bothers you that he can date his preference.
/r/seduction25/01/20 02:20 PM
1

That's not my point though. The point is feelings are just feelings. It's your actions that matter.
/r/seduction25/01/20 10:33 AM
2

Now that seems accurate.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:49 PM
0

I personally think you're going about this the wrong way. I've reflected upon myself relating to this for years and years. I'm in a particularly different situation though that allows for an interesting perspective. See, thing is that I'm not single, and I haven't been for over 16 years. I'm not monogamous either. So there's a woman in my life that's been there for a long, long time. There's other women that have come and gone. There's women that I became entirely infatuated with and women that …
/r/seduction24/01/20 01:21 PM
19

You ride a skateboard, wanna try a trick, and it's scary the first time. Then you nail it eventually and you're never afraid of that trick again. Next trick is harder, scary again, you repeat the process. Same thing with talking to women. You just do it, even though you're scared. You're allowed to be afraid, anxious, insecure, etc. You're allowed to feel whatever you feel. Just don't allow yourself to avoid doing something because of your feelings and you're good to go.
/r/seduction23/01/20 12:38 PM
1

And what was her response about?
/r/seduction23/01/20 01:41 AM
1

So you tell me what you're not doing right then? Analyze yourself, your interactions. Where do they go wrong?
/r/seduction23/01/20 01:19 AM
1

How many attempts and how did you set up those attempts? Are you actually soliciting advice or just sympathy? I was fat. I was ugly. I was smelly. I dressed like shit. I had a wispy neck beard. I had long heavy metal hair. I wore jnco jeans and band t-shirts. I changed myself from the top to the bottom, inside and out. Did I always succeed? Fuck nope. Do I now? Anytime I want to make a connection. You're not going to get sympathy, so I hope you're actually going to do something about your situat…
/r/seduction23/01/20 12:50 AM
5

Stop cock blocking girls. They are way more afraid of what guys can do to them than what a guy is afraid of and for them to agree to be alone with you means that they like you a lot. You just assume from there on that they want the same things you do. They put themselves in the exact same place that you chose to put yourself, with a person you chose and the person they chose. You touch, you kiss, you fall in love. That's how the birds and the bees work. You don't talk about it, you don't ask. Yo…
/r/seduction23/01/20 12:15 AM
1

Not trying to offend you here, but you either have no idea what you're talking about or you worded all that in a way you didn't intend. As it's worded, I just flat out disagree with you. While I have had women tell me, "I would only be your friend." and later have them go against that, I wasn't actually ever in "The friendzone" because I never crossed the line to lose sexual respect. I never asked them to start a relationship with me. I never brought them to a private place, nor avoided trying t…
/r/seduction22/01/20 09:42 PM
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It's not a myth, it's the place guys get slammed into when they are too chicken shit to try kissing or touching a woman at the appropriate time. You even mentioned it in your post. That's exactly how it happens. A guy sets the trap himself. He creates an opportunity to be with a woman romantically. He creates a relationship with her, established attraction and interest, then when it's time to make a move and just kiss the girl, he drops the fuckin ball. He gets her alone, they're on his or her b…
/r/seduction22/01/20 06:34 PM
6

The way I look at it is simplify everything. Anytime there's a thing going on that doesn't quite make sense, just look for a super simple solution and suggest it or just do it. It can be anything, like your seating arrangement. Maybe the hostess put you in a table that sits two across from each other, but you can't hear your date speaking. Don't just suffer or make her suffer, just stand up and ask, "Hey, I can't hear you, can I move my chair over by you? Or mind if we ask to be moved tables whe…
/r/seduction22/01/20 12:34 PM
0

Thanks, bud.
/r/seduction21/01/20 07:58 PM
1

Are you my coworker by the way lol? Bc he does this to me quite often. Probably not, because I would've done other things to you by now.
/r/seduction21/01/20 11:15 AM
-1

after a darty in the snow, a cute girl on the soccer team who I had been chatting with at the party Hey, how ya make an upsidedown p?!
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:38 PM
43

This here's my lucky condom, had it for years.
/r/seduction19/01/20 01:36 PM
1

Not really, she just needs a dude that doesn't give a fuck and isn't intimidated by it, which is basically just what she said.
/r/seduction18/01/20 02:16 PM
2

A chick sees my hat and approaches, she says, "Nice hat, dude." while smirking. She says it in a bitchy way and my response is, "Thanks, I relate to it on a primal level." She gets confused and asks, while laughing, "Oh, why's that?!" And I say, "Because I'm a little pussy." with smug confidence. The chick that did this was like an 8-9 and she was dressed in business clothes. Heels on. Perfect makeup. Perfect nails. Holding a laptop and a legal notepad. She obviously just left a meeting. I'm wea…
/r/seduction18/01/20 02:08 PM
1

I guess narcissism might just be your strong point and social dynamics are not. Good luck with that, bud.
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:10 AM
1

Ok, gotcha.
/r/seduction17/01/20 07:39 PM
2

sense a girl is trying to make eye contact with you at a bar, for sure go for it. Eye contact isn't accidental at bars and clubs 99% of the time! That's when you bust out the ol' raise glass, head nod, smile.
/r/seduction17/01/20 07:33 PM
2

r/niceguys isn’t what most people think it is. Like....what do most people think it is then? Because that sub is exactly how I perceive nice guys™
/r/seduction17/01/20 07:26 PM
2

Then that makes way more sense, I was like no way a chick figured that out on her own, NEVER SEEN IT HAPPEN. Still holds true.
/r/seduction17/01/20 04:08 PM
1

No, I just didn't understand that you meant first move to mean a physical move, like kissing. That's why I followed up with that. You can look at my first post response to OP. Have a great weekend and I hope one day you pick one women to enjoy life with. And have a wife! I have a wife(16 years). I thoroughly enjoy life with her. I am not monogamous though and I enjoy three-way relationships/other women. But I get what you're saying and I appreciate it. Edit: Forgot to say, I just didn't like tha…
/r/seduction17/01/20 01:17 PM
1

You're the first woman I've seen that understands this. I've given this almost exact advice to each close girl friend I've had that struggles with dating. Except I usually say, "No cumming allowed until after the 4th date! Kissing, petting, cuddling, fine. You can cum, he cannot."
/r/seduction17/01/20 01:11 PM
0

There are things you can do to the different types of women to illicit the thing that you are talking about. I did think about the scope of what argument I made. I know how to act towards women that are overtly interested and how to act towards women that are covertly interested. You still have to acknowledge the various "first moves". So I just ask that you reconsider and expand the scope of your understanding of what I said. I play the part of "the chased", whether it's a covertly or overtly i…
/r/seduction17/01/20 01:03 PM
2

I can't say I've figured it out for anyone but myself, but what I've figured out personally is that some women are good at it and some are gross about it. Imagine a guy thinks a girl's hot and so he slaps her ass. Some girls might like that, but most will think he's a fuckin sleaze bag. I do not like women that touch me before we've even spoken. I do not like women that say lewd shit to me. I do not like women that just act like I owe them attraction. I do not like women that are overtly aggress…
/r/seduction17/01/20 12:53 PM
5

They do though, your perception is that they haven't. A girl holds eye contact, puts herself right next to you, smiles at you, fluffs her hair 13 times into your face and you're like... Shit, why can't girls ever make the first move? She made 37 moves and you just wanted her to act like a man, instead of a woman, because you're a man and believe she should act like you do when you're interested. You have to take notice of what women do when they're interested and acknowledge their moves.
/r/seduction17/01/20 12:45 PM
1

I am really bad at socializing Hey look, bud. You're not bad at it, you're inexperienced. Just from the questions you asked, it's obvious. You just have to go do it. You will learn, if you put in the hours and hours to learn. I could talk to you about playing the guitar for paragraph after paragraph, page after page. The only way you'd ever get good at guitar is by playing it for years. I wouldn't say you're bad at guitar, just because you've never picked one up. I'd just say you're inexperience…
/r/seduction17/01/20 12:41 PM
2

This is tagged with fundamentals, but this topic is rather advanced, for advanced seducers. There are things that I don't talk about on r/seduction, but I will discuss with more advanced dudes. Having said that, I'm going to talk about this topic here anyways. Along with all that you've said is a concept that I call "playing the part of the hot guy". You don't necessarily have to see yourself as a hot guy, you just have to play the part. You're on stage right now and your audience is the girl wh…
/r/seduction17/01/20 12:31 PM
2

Can't guarantee that bit, just like you can't guarantee that she'd be lucky to talk to you. You are responsible for you and the way that you set expectations for yourself. Ya know?
/r/seduction16/01/20 08:26 PM
2

I did, proceed with points 1 and 3, and I still say point 2 is completely unnecessary.
/r/seduction16/01/20 06:15 PM
1

It's completely unnecessary, there are other mindsets to adopt that accomplish the same thing
/r/seduction16/01/20 05:55 PM
1

No, you're getting hung up on the fact that a woman should be lucky to talk to that guy. And I still am insisting that it doesn't matter what she is, in relation to me, or the guy approaching. My point is still that this concept is reliant upon the woman. Reliant on her being receptive. Reliant on her to prove that you are who you think you are. My point is that it shouldn't be reliant upon anything but your state. You're going to preach personal state, personal belief about state to me and not …
/r/seduction16/01/20 05:24 PM
2

I am perfectly allowed to find women attractive and I lose no power. I'm not unattractive, simply because I find a woman attractive. I have no need for comparing myself to other men and I have no need for comparing myself to a woman. I don't need to be better than her to approach her, just like I do not need to be better than other men to approach her. I only need to be present. No, putting women on a pedestal isn't attractive, but neither is putting yourself on a pedestal. Both things are found…
/r/seduction16/01/20 04:43 PM
5

It's completely unnecessary, there are other mindsets to adopt that accomplish the same thing, without being narcissistic. She doesn't need to "be lucky" to speak to you, she may or may not be. There's plenty of reasons why she may not "be lucky" to speak to you, but still plenty of reasons she may still speak to you. Let's say she's a lesbian and completely uninterested in men sexually? Let's say she's in a (monogamous) relationship and completely fine with that? Let's say she's simply not inte…
/r/seduction16/01/20 03:04 PM
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It sounds like you're on the same page as me. You can do just fine in a conversation acknowledging points 1 & 3. Point 2 is narcissistic and unnecessary. You do not need to put someone down in your mind in order to have a good conversation. You don't need to think about yourself at all, or your status compared to theirs, or their attractiveness compared to yours, or how interesting you are compared to them. All you have to do is go into it to enjoy another human being, because we're social creat…
/r/seduction16/01/20 02:40 PM
9

She is lucky to have the opportunity to talk to me. We can all do just fine without narcissism though.
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:04 PM
0

Do you touch girls? Because you have to touch girls.
/r/seduction15/01/20 09:15 PM
2

I didn't acknowledge it because you were being insulting and self centered again. You made a lot of assumptions about me and others, because you believe your problems are greater than everyone else's. And to you, they are. I've also answered them before, in other discussions we've had. I've been exceedingly patient with you. Now you're telling me that you can't take my advice seriously, because I won't repeat myself. That's fine with me. Addressing your point about me waving the problems off as …
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:12 PM
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I don't know what I want to talk about with a girl until I am talking to a specific girl. I also don't really care about her answers, I care how she answers. And she doesn't really care what I ask, but how I ask. So take from that what you want. I start with Hi and go from there.
/r/seduction15/01/20 01:50 AM
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No, answer the question, where is this post coming from exactly? Have you been here long enough and seen the good contributions that completely nullify the point you're trying to make? Are you gauging your estimation on the "newbie posts"? My point is that this community is mostly about self improvement and you do not seem to be aware of that fact (because then you wouldn't have posted this, right).
/r/seduction13/01/20 10:47 PM
13

Ok, five days? Five weeks? My point stands, who are you talking to exactly? I've been here for years and the biggest message shared is self improvement and inner game. "Improve your life and girls will follow."
/r/seduction13/01/20 09:34 PM
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What? Have you been here 5 seconds and read literally nothing here before making this post? Self improvement is the majority of the first advice people receive here, wtf? Dude/chick, you're in the wrong place. Go talk to your buddies about your problems.
/r/seduction13/01/20 09:30 PM
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It depends on your perspective. I've had some rather unfortunate circumstances occur in my life, but they've enlightened me to what's worth caring about, and what's not. For example, 9 years ago I just went blind heading into finals for college(multiple sclerosis, it turns out). On top of that, I've "almost died" in various ways, on average of about once per year. It puts life in perspective. When my time really comes to die, I have absolutely no control over that time finally coming. So what do…
/r/seduction12/01/20 01:07 PM
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Then you don't bring up relationships and you never should anyways. Relationships aren't created verbally, despite what society has been teaching you your entire life. A relationship must exist before a description of the relationship can occur. A relationship is two people relating. That's it. That's all it is. If you hangout, then you're in some type of relationship. If you touch, then kiss, you're now in a physical relationship. If you open up to each other, you're now in an emotionally engag…
/r/seduction11/01/20 01:31 PM
18

You just have to want it and if you don't do it, then you obviously didn't want it bad enough. You can tell yourself you did, but clearly not. You're walking around an amusement park. You see a rollercoaster that's the tallest in the park. You want to ride that ride, but the only way you're getting on it is if you actually stand in line and go through the process to find yourself in a seat and getting strapped in. Once you're on, there's no getting off once that clicking sound starts and you're …
/r/seduction11/01/20 01:03 PM
1

This is all part of the natural progression. Eventually you realize you're just finding yourself. There's not two of me, there's just a dialed up version of me for the purpose of seducing. I know who I am and I know which things are attractive, but I know which parts of me to reserve for the women who deserve it. There's a part of me that deserves protection, because not all women deserve those parts. The experiences I share here are based on a non-monogamous lifestyle. I know how to seduce new …
/r/seduction10/01/20 11:58 AM
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This isn't seduction related and there's no confidence or boldness displayed by that dude. He seemed rather worried about her response and insecure during most of it. The theater was filled with family and friends, which takes away from your interpretation of "boldness". Everyone knew, but her. What can you learn from this? Lose insecurities, gain confidence. The grand gesture itself is a display of insecurity. Hope a mod removes this, because it's out of place.
/r/seduction10/01/20 11:14 AM
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Meh, ain't one to compare myself to anybody but yesterme. Might run into some dudes that are more handsome and I won't care, because that won't ever take away from the fact that I'm a sexy mother fucker.
/r/seduction08/01/20 07:23 PM
43

I prefer slightly used virgin.
/r/seduction08/01/20 05:33 PM
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Here's two bits of advice my pops gave me. "No matter how pretty a girl is, she's still got snot in her nose." Second thing is a mantra I adopted before leaving the house, after I've gotten all dressed up and groomed, "God damn (my name), you sexy mother fucker! Don't you ever die!" Shit makes me laugh everytime and feel good, it's like flirting with yourself. Try it out.
/r/seduction08/01/20 02:43 PM
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I realize I'm not the norm, because of the type of memory I have. I can't forget anybody that I've had an impacting interpersonal exchange with, no matter how long ago it happened. I'm 36 and I can still remember vividly things that happened as a toddler. Keeping that in mind, I cannot forget women. Every woman that I've ever loved, I still love. I find no problem with that. Love is a feeling and like all other feelings, it only matters what I do with my actions. I can be scared and still do the…
/r/seduction08/01/20 01:16 PM
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The way that I improved was by speaking to more and more women and paying attention to things that they didn't like. If they didn't like the way I said a certain thing, then I'd try saying it a different way next time. I spoke to literally thousands upon thousands of women. No one really wants to hear that though, but it's what works. After talking to 5,000 women, it's hard to not see patterns in each future interaction.
/r/seduction07/01/20 11:28 AM
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When you climb a ladder, do you start on the highest rung, or do you start on the bottom one and start working your way up? If the 9th rung is "kiss" and you're on the 8th, then yeah, you should go onto number 9. If you stayed on the bottom rung for the entire date, do not jump to the 9th.
/r/seduction06/01/20 08:12 PM
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Depends on the situation, doesn't it? You can't say just one thing, it's a series of things. Typically, I just start by being attractive and padding my SMV. I'll do all the typical things listed around the sub, but I never pursue, I never ask for things from women. I let them start suggesting things, like "oh we should hangout sometime!" then I'll say that we should probably exchange numbers then. If they ask why we haven't hung out yet, then I'll say because they haven't learned anything about …
/r/seduction06/01/20 07:57 PM
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That's just like...your opinion, man. Naw, you don't have to spend money, or need a coach, but a lot of that other stuff? Bullshit, in my opinion. I am very aware of IOIs, so I can tell when a woman becomes attracted to me. I can tell if they're immediately attracted, but many times they're just luke warm. Saying that I have no power over that sounds silly as fuck from my past experiences. I know that when I started, I just wasn't as attractive as I am now. Even if my looks got me in the door, m…
/r/seduction06/01/20 07:37 PM
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Step one, enjoy yourself. Step two, touch as much as you're permitted. Step three, kiss how she kisses.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:06 PM
1

PSA: Make friends with the bartenders and bouncers. I've had a few instances where a dude's jealousy tries interfering with my fun nights. Bouncers keep an eye out for me most times, after interacting with me and seeing I'm not a chode. If some stupid shit goes down, then I get to stay in the club and "that guy" gets to stay outside. It's unbelievable the lengths some dudes will go through over a woman, sometimes that they have literally just met.
/r/seduction05/01/20 12:09 PM
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My eye contact will fuck a girl all up. Whatever she was thinking about just goes completely out their ears. I'm called confident, but I just see it as me not thinking about me. I'm not self conscious and I'm not thinking about anything except soaking up the world's wonders. Girls are one of those things I find wonderful, so if I find a pair of eyes to appreciate, then I find no reason to look away. That shit totally fucks a girl up. Here's one story I've told here before, this was about 6-7 yea…
/r/seduction03/01/20 03:25 PM
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If you walk into a forest and look for a fallen tree, made of a specific type of wood, you can find a decent log. That log has potential to become whatever you need it to be, but it needs work to become useful to you. Perhaps you want to build a fire? Any dry logs without too much sap will do. Perhaps you want to build a structure? So you need long straight pieces, that'll last through weathering. Perhaps you want to carve a masterpiece? So you find something with interesting grain, that's easil…
/r/seduction02/01/20 03:30 PM
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Clearly you needed to make this comment to project your own insecurities...you must be new here Absurd.
/r/seduction29/12/19 07:44 PM
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What an odd thing to be insecure about.
/r/seduction29/12/19 04:38 PM
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Imagine yourself as a peacock. Your job is to put out your mating call, then display your colors. It's a woman's choice to respond to your calls, check out your colors, and be like "Yep" or "Naw". After you see that she isn't responding, if you chase, she'll just fly away. So, just display your colors to another chick. If no chick responds, then work on your preening.
/r/seduction20/12/19 12:51 PM
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What you say is bullshit, because you have no clue whether a woman has ever liked you or not. You have no right to say it. If you do say it, then you just don't care about other human beings. You don't care about their thoughts. You don't care about their feelings. All you care about is yourself, your beliefs, which you think trump everyone else's. You are habitually and negatively self centered. If you say, "I don't know who has ever been attracted to me or not." then you're allowing others to …
/r/seduction19/12/19 06:07 PM
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Well, fair enough. Stop saying, "No woman has ever been interested in me." because that's a start. If you still want to have something to say, try saying, "I don't know if any woman has ever been interested in me." At least that's true and logical to say. The other thing you always say sounds insane.
/r/seduction19/12/19 05:40 PM
1

You won't see it when it happens(and has happened), not with these beliefs. You are blinded, self inflicted.
/r/seduction19/12/19 05:27 PM
1

Isn't it only logical to understand the issues at hand and try and solve them? Yeah, so where's your logic relating to women and you not being a mind reader? How is it logical to say that no woman has ever been interested in you? I definitely won't deny my issues and I'm not really afraid to admit what they are. Except you haven't that I've ever seen? Sure I have no experience and I think it's the most important thing to address as it's easily the biggest hurdle. Smallest hurdle. You just start …
/r/seduction19/12/19 05:03 PM
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read the situation and the person and don’t overthink what’s coming out of your mouth. What if...like, you just had one of those blue popsicles? And...you're prone to drooling? Actually, I guess she could be color blind, so whether your tongue is pink or blue, she'll still see grey? Come to think of it, would the drool look grey then? Does that make the drooling more noticeable? Wait, does this count as overthinking? self consciously wipes corners of mouth.
/r/seduction19/12/19 12:13 PM
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Someone asked this question in a PM, here's my response: I look at it as bullshitting through a topic to turn any subject, no matter how boring, into a fun discussion. I also use it to flatter in ridiculous ways, or "flirt" with anyone. First thing that pops into my mind is a conversation I had with a 70+ year old gentleman, in an elevator, about the popularity of different hotel floors. The elevator had maybe 4 others listening to our exchange and laughing through our banter, a couple of them a…
/r/seduction19/12/19 12:02 PM
1

Man, you need therapy. You sound so delusional and you just won't let it go, at all. I've never had any woman interested in me before That's your mantra. That's what you base all your conversations on here. That's what you base your life with women on. That's what you base your behaviors on. And it's statistically impossible.
/r/seduction19/12/19 10:28 AM
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Here's a small advantage to consider. A different way to look at it. Your desire to see a woman's interest before approaching exists because you want to know that you won't be rejected before you approach. You're intimidated because a man approaching is seen as interest. You don't want to display that interest until you see a girl display some sign of interest first, you want the advantage. What if approaching women was so easy and so natural to you that it wasn't a thing that actually displayed…
/r/seduction19/12/19 10:22 AM
1

If you need to know you're attractive to a woman before you'll consider talking to them, do you think that's how an attractive man should act? You asking the question tells me that you need to talk to many more women. The way it works for me is, "Did she run away screaming the second she spotted me?" if the answer is no, then I can talk to her. I'm not thinking that I need to know she's attracted to me, because I don't give a shit. She isn't what makes me an attractive person, I do. I have past …
/r/seduction19/12/19 03:22 AM
2

He's not you. You have to make good experiences, kiddo.
/r/seduction19/12/19 12:49 AM
3

That's an easy tell, but there's others that girls have. Usually the more "stereotypically" pretty a girl is and the more that she knows she's hot, they're more subtle about their initial attraction. Like they don't want to give away first that they think you're hot, they want to know for sure that you think they're hot. Fidgeting or looking like "I am playing it cool. I am totally cool. Nope, not affected by you at all!" but all you gotta do is see that nervous facade and smile like you know wh…
/r/seduction18/12/19 10:01 PM
1

No, every girl has a fantasy guy, an archetype of "her type" and that type flies right out the fucking window when I walk right up, strutting my shit. That's how it works and if you think "Oh, I'm not her type" then you're never gonna be any girl's type, because they want to think they know what they want, until they see what they actually want and they're like, "Oh fuck, that's it right there...."
/r/seduction18/12/19 09:54 PM
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The thing is any guy that's experienced with women knows that getting women is simple. Trying to explain how simple it is to inexperienced men is complicated on the other hand, because they will constantly question shit like, "Well, what about looks, don't they matter, because I'm ugly?" Then you have to break it down for them. You have to say that your face or your body isn't 100% of what your appearance is based on. So then you discuss all the things that are changeable. Then they say, "But I'…
/r/seduction18/12/19 01:09 PM
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happy someone like you could contribute to this topic. Gotta get every dude here feeling the same thing. It's...healthy masculinity. I try to share as much of my experience as I can.
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:13 PM
4

Her type? Lol Lose that concept, never say it here again. It has no place on this sub.
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:04 PM
3

Shoot, been into seduction almost a decade now. I take being sexy for granted nowadays.
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:00 PM
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I always use a few things to look back on that have shown me women find me attractive. If I'm talking to a girl I'm wanting to flirt with, it helps to feel that time in the past where a chick made me feel sexy, or attractive. It's snowballed and compounded on top of each other so much, that I just know without a doubt that I can be a sexy mother fucker, wherever I want. Actually, I also do this cocky as fuck mantra on the way out the door. Like if I've got a date lined up. Get all groomed up, dr…
/r/seduction17/12/19 09:51 PM
1

Here's two versions of the same message: First one... You know all the shit you read here? The entire sub is dedicated to seduction, the act of seducing someone. Having a shit personality isn't seductive, so everything you read here is about changing that. Have you read anything seduction related, or did you just come here and make a post, hoping we could boil it all down in a paragraph? As if it's that simple? Sure, let me just go ahead and fix all your problems! Second one... This entire sub i…
/r/seduction17/12/19 05:07 PM
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From a different post I responded to related to this: You don't need permission to look at someone and they don't need permission to look at you. This means that it's entirely up to you to decide when you'll look away. Start paying attention to what makes you look away from someone first. Look at men, look at women, look at children. Look at everyone's eyes and start paying attention. You'll find that it's easier to look into some people's eyes and impossible to look at others. You just make it …
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:52 PM
2

We've discussed this. You don't know what women think or want, you just think you know what they don't want (you). Your self fulfilling prophecies keep you right where you are.
/r/seduction16/12/19 11:19 AM
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If you are having fun and you don't show that you're needy, girls can sense it and they want to share the fun with you. And that's actually the secret to getting girls all through life, not just a nightclub. Lol
/r/seduction15/12/19 11:29 PM
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No, fuck your friend and his judgements. Just dance to have a fucking blast and smile at girls that are giggling at your epileptic raptor moves. I guarantee that I could try dancing worse than you and walk out of the club with a girl. Probably have been grabbed and kissed by several, and definitely have danced with 15-20, touched that many, etc. I go to dance and have fun and girls are swallowed up by it.
/r/seduction15/12/19 08:09 PM
3

If you're talking in a club, when the music is around 4 million decibels, you're an idiot. You drink, you dance, you use your eyes, smile, and body to pickup women. If you're a smoker, you talk outside to other smoking girls. If you're not, you learn to dance like it's your last day on earth.
/r/seduction15/12/19 08:03 PM
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I say this in basically every post relating to fear, but it applies to all emotions. Feelings are just feelings, it's the actions that you choose that matter. You can be afraid and still go forward. You can be freaking out about a text you sent and feel stupid, is she ignoring you on purpose? All because of your text? Just don't send another text. It's that simple. You do not need to do anything based on insecurity. You do not need to avoid doing something because of insecurity either. You don't…
/r/seduction13/12/19 09:16 PM
1

I'm still in love with every woman I ever have loved, but I also recognized that about myself early in life. So I had to do something to protect myself while still allowing love to happen. I don't stop loving them, I stop relating. I stop letting both of us hurt each other and I move on. It always hurts, but at least I'm never caught by surprise. I didn't ask my wife to marry me until we'd been together 7 years. We didn't get married until 14 years in. It's been 16 years together now. Disclaimer…
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:05 PM
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How do you get over this awful feeling? Look forward to the next one, duh. If there's no possibility of getting my heart ripped out, I'm not that interested. So I accept it beforehand, because I'm not looking for women to feel apathetic towards. I'm looking for women that drive me fucking bonkers, stoke the flames, send me over some waterfalls. You can't feel that without having your heart on the line. Just accept it the moment you see her the first time, then strap in for the ride. You also hav…
/r/seduction12/12/19 04:41 PM
1

The player vibes is one that oozes sexuality. It sucks you in. It just feels good. You want to melt into it, surrender to it, submit to it. It's hot, sticky, sweet, and unmoved. It makes women crave your touch and wanna give into you. Agree. The reason women love the player vibe is because it screams high value and three way potential. Women want to fuck a dude who is higher value than her. The player vibe is that. The essence of a player vibe is constant sexual tension. This created by. High va…
/r/seduction12/12/19 01:24 PM
3

I didn't say selfish, I said self centered. You're one of the most self centered people I speak to on the sub and a perfect example of the point I made. You're a cartoony representation of it. You're unattractive because you're a.... bitter, jaded creature that you see here today. And you force your ugly ass "reality" onto others. You're negative and whiney. You are ignorant to what other people are actually thinking or feeling, because you don't give a fuck about them. You're entirely wrapped u…
/r/seduction12/12/19 09:27 AM
7

I went to a Korn concert when I was 15-16, Family Values tour landed in Arizona. I remember it being hotter than hell, just crushed by humanity, and starting to feel sick from the heat. And then suddenly it was ice cold, I could feel air actually moving, I could breathe and I wasn't being crushed by people. Well, that's because the mosh pit opened up right where I was standing. Just wide open space with me in the middle. Then there's like twenty skin head nazi fucks that all looked 7 feet tall r…
/r/seduction10/12/19 12:18 PM
1

are you open with your wife? Yes, but people usually seem to think that means "wide open", when it actually just means, "door ain't closed and locked" would you be against her lusting after other men? Wouldn't I be an idiot to think I'm the only man possible to be lusted over? do you ever wonder if you would be happier with JUST your wife? I wish I didn't lust after other women, I wish I didn't fall in love with other women. It would make life easier. It's also not possible for me. We were toget…
/r/seduction09/12/19 12:50 PM
9

I was a fat fuck for all of my maturing years, then all of my adult life, up until 27 years old. At 27 I lost 110lbs. I started in March at 330lbs, by next March I was 220. Now it's significant to mention March, because that's spring time. Everyone is wearing jackets and heavy clothes 6+ months a year here. That year it was particularly warm, like it was 85 degrees, when usually it can still snow up into April and May. It was during St Patrick's day celebrations and this city parties for 7 days …
/r/seduction08/12/19 01:52 PM
2

I'm married to a woman that's never been unattractive in her life. I am, on the other hand, a man that's felt the differences between being repulsive to women and also then becoming attractive to the majority of women I meet. I can understand your point about not having to develop an attractive personality and also having to develop a great personality. Relationships take work from both sides. My wife works hard for me and I work hard for her. There's never not been reciprocation met with equal …
/r/seduction08/12/19 02:52 AM
1

That sounds like an altogether different issue and I can sympathize with that. Originally, it just sounded like you didn't want to deal with women being women. What you're describing is a very insecure woman, which many very attractive women are, but some don't present toxic behaviors towards others because of that insecurity. Ideally, we want to find a balanced and attractive woman. Balanced and attractive women can still present very, very frustrating behaviors though, but they're still femini…
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:38 PM
2

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear from the beginning, yes.
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:31 PM
2

It doesn't seem like you like anyone but you. So you do you, bud.
/r/seduction07/12/19 08:30 PM
2

Can I really answer that question in regards to all women? Each have different desires ultimately, and each man has a different string. I know that it's definitely not my wealth that draws women, since I have no wealth to offer them. Swag and humor are definitely in my repertoire, but it goes deeper than that. I provoke women and I know it, I see it, and I just respond to it with how I continue to dangle the reward that they're after. Do I know exactly what makes me attractive? Is that possible …
/r/seduction07/12/19 03:59 PM
2

Fair enough.
/r/seduction07/12/19 03:37 PM
0

then why did you open this conversation with how you've been madly in love with your wife for 16 years?? Because regardless of that fact, it doesn't keep feelings in check for other women. I can pretend the feelings aren't there, especially when things don't work out with a girl. I can put a new girl on like a bandaid. It doesn't erase the feelings though, they're still waiting around. Hey, maybe you are the woke one, with your ability to feel nothing for a girl as you move onto the next and you…
/r/seduction07/12/19 12:39 PM
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really plays a hand at keeping feelings in check. No. This part is naive, you dense fuck. Jesus Christ. And what the fuck, I just told you I've been dating multiple women for 9 years? Edit: You also very obviously are insecure about dating multiple women, or you wouldn't be bringing that up. I have zero issues with that. You're insecure about it, not me. Are you a narcissist or what?
/r/seduction07/12/19 05:18 AM
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you've been married for 16 years so it's quite apparent that you're not I am not monogamous. And that's my entire point. I'm going to keep reading the rest of your comment now to see if anything else you said isn't automatically making total assumptions about my life. Edit: Okay, I've finished reading and no, you're way fucking off about me and everything you said to me. None of that is about me, it's about you and your insecurities. I have been dating other women besides my wife for 9 years. No…
/r/seduction07/12/19 04:32 AM
1

I'm sorry I threatened your ego....I didn't mean it.
/r/seduction07/12/19 04:05 AM
1

Have you ever, in your entire life, heard a cliche and not seen the truth in it? Literally every cliche is a simplified real life, real shit, thing.
/r/seduction07/12/19 04:02 AM
0

That's adorable and naive. I have been madly in love with my wife for 16 years. I sure as fuck wish what you said was anywhere close to true. I fucking wish. Man, how simple would life be?
/r/seduction07/12/19 04:00 AM
1

I mean, if you don't like women, there is a ton of dude buttholes out there that are way easier to get at. I like women exactly as they are. That frustration being seen through to the end is what makes all of this worth it. They're just playing their part. It's kind of retarded to get upset that you've got to play yours, unless you actually don't want to play your part. In which case, start fuckin dudes.
/r/seduction07/12/19 03:57 AM
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I've been preaching cat string theory for years, but more so about how to play with cats. Even if a cat isn't interested in you, if you've got a string you dangle, you're going to gain interest from the cat. Once you have the cat's interest, you can easily lose it. All you gotta do is throw the string at the cat. The cat will sniff it, turn around and walk away. You can dangle the string and never give the cat the string, or even let the cat touch it. The cat will walk away. You can dangle the s…
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:47 PM
3

That's because you don't understand where the weakness lies. If I'm nice to women, it's unexpected and appreciated. I don't look nice. I look like a douche, with douche hair, and douche clothes, with a douchey walk, and a douchey talk. Then I speak to them and I'm kind, empathetic, understanding, funny, and not pushy. Now I'm sexy. Now I'm seemingly unattainable. Now I'm a guy that gets chased by the girl, because I'm a mystery. Why the fuck does he look like such a dick, but instead he's Captai…
/r/seduction06/12/19 07:02 PM
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Sorry, but your post is kind of drivel, so I can't really say you've made a good counter point. Also, we've spoken like ten times now and you're still a negative Nancy. So it's obvious to me why you're still unattractive, ya know? You can't fool me, you can only fool yourself. You always forget that I was a fat slob, too. I know, I know, it's because of your learning disability.
/r/seduction06/12/19 11:50 AM
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Oh look, it's another one of these posts. If you try to do the same things that work in person and apply it online, it will not work. Interestingly, if you try the same things that work online and apply it in person, it will not work. So the conclusion you draw is that "online dating doesn't work". I had success in person and I couldn't understand why being the same didn't work online. I had evidence that being me works, and then I had evidence that being me doesn't work "here". I didn't give up…
/r/seduction05/12/19 04:54 PM
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I personally think that's a very intelligent understanding of what I've said. I also think that using your flow of logic to institute an attempt at practice seems rather pragmatic and I respect pragmatism. The fact that you don't respond with personal negativity and beliefs is also something that I respect. I hope that you succeed, bud. I'd like that, I think that you'd thoroughly enjoy your life and others everafter. be in the moment instead of discovering my values It has done a lot for me and…
/r/seduction05/12/19 04:13 PM
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Why do you want or need to know your own values? Let's say we live in a world that values fighting ability. Let's say you've trained your entire life and you believe you're the best fighter. Let's say there's a billion dudes that disagree and have no problem walking up and punching you right in the face, regardless of what you believed about your own value in fighting. Now let's say you think you're shit at fighting. Some dude punches you in the face, because he thinks you're shit at fighting. T…
/r/seduction05/12/19 02:07 PM
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"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." bullshit cliche that works, especially on your inner thoughts. Stop thinking about yourself. Hold yourself accountable. Bet you wouldn't let a stranger whisper shitty things about you every waking minute, but you allow yourself to do it? Hold yourself accountable and stop letting yourself be a giant dick head to the closest person you have. Do you tell every single person you don't like, every single thing you don't like about …
/r/seduction05/12/19 01:21 PM
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Yeah but how the hell do you accept yourself? I realized that all the negative thoughts I had about myself were centered around myself. Even though they were negative thoughts, they still made me self centered. If another person came along, then I had already decided I was ugly, uninteresting, had no worth to offer anybody. I took away any rights they had to make a decision about me, because my own beliefs trumped theirs. Then I realized that made me a self centered, egotistical prick, that only…
/r/seduction05/12/19 01:03 PM
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Reciprocation is the mindset and paying attention is the key. You listen to what they're saying and incorporate their experience with your similar shared experiences. You can pick and choose what you're willing to reciprocate or not, but being aware of it enables you to withhold or give reciprocation. Let's say a woman compliments me. I can choose to compliment her in return, or I can reward her compliment by graciously receiving it. Two different methods of reciprocation, but I'm not the kind o…
/r/seduction03/12/19 01:22 PM
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I look at it this way, there's a ton of great people that I wouldn't be physically intimate with because I'm not attracted to them. That includes gay men. Gay men are just as attractive to me as a woman that I'm not attracted to either. Why would I feel bad about not being gay? I'm just not attracted to men. If I were, I'd fuck dudes. So if I'm attracted to a girl, I'd fuck her. If I'm not, where should the guilt come from? I'm a flirt, because I'm me. My flirting doesn't mean I'm attracted, whi…
/r/seduction30/11/19 04:28 PM
1

My dad had different advice, "Every girl's got snot in her nose." I mean, I haven't been shown otherwise yet.
/r/seduction29/11/19 09:03 PM
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What you're describing is a person that exists on the spectrum of narcissistic personality disorder.
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:36 PM
4

Look at language differently
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:59 PM
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I'll make a deal with you. I'll acknowledge women sell their dresses after their wedding If you acknowledge that this is a fuckin joke on the internet.
/r/seduction29/11/19 03:19 PM
2

Then fine, she loses you and no big deal, cuz you couldn't wait. Which falls in line with my good advice for a girl.
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:20 PM
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Step two. Kissing, petting, getting turned on are all acceptable. Even with all that on the table, you think she'd be uninterested? I absolutely do not believe you lol I think it would drive you insane and you'd be a sucker for the girl that does it to you. Because I've watched girls do it to friends that are absolute pussy slayers. It gets inside their heads, when they get every other girl they want. Then there's this one girl that does everything but get his rocks off and they suddenly think t…
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:05 PM
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I don't really like to tell others what to do, because I know how difficult it is to be me, so I apply that to others and assume it's also difficult to be them. I can tell you how I work on myself and you can pick and choose things that may work for you. I've noticed that when there's something I have to do, it may be hard at first. Anything really, like playing the guitar. I practice though and then things become easier eventually and I start to sound good at what I'm practicing. So I check tha…
/r/seduction27/11/19 05:57 PM
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So here's a guide I made for women in dating: Step one. No orgasms. Step two. Kissing, petting, getting turned on are all acceptable. Step three. After the 4th good date, you're allowed to fuck. Do not dos: Don't tell men what you're looking for, because they can use it against you. Don't ask men what they're looking for, unless you want to hear bullshit. Don't agree to a private place(e.g. your house or their house) unless you're confident that you can follow steps 1-3. Edit: oh and every guy i…
/r/seduction27/11/19 12:14 PM
1

I have heard girls call him fine ass fuck, so? Yes? He's attractive. It's not like it's that difficult to be an attractive guy. Very few dudes are actually ass ugly, we just all think we're ass ugly.
/r/seduction27/11/19 12:42 AM
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I don’t necessarily like the mindset you give though that all actions leading to failure of a relationship are the mans though. I'm sorry that you perceived my advice that way, but I did not say that. Because if she wanted to do something physical she is totally capable of saying that as well. She could, or another woman could, but expecting a woman to get physical first is an expectation and once again, I recommend against having expectations in that regard. Just as I would recommend against ex…
/r/seduction26/11/19 09:30 PM
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I find it much easier to be nice to other people than myself. Well, we've established that that's what you believe, but I have told you why it's not true. You've attempted to hijack my agency, so I know you do it to others, and that's not very nice. The reason you do it is because of the filter you've created by being mean to yourself. And yea. Keep trying. The most exhausting solution. I can't disagree with that. It gets exhausting for me sometimes and I'm described as a confident/balanced guy …
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:11 PM
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Yeah, you just gotta enjoy each moment, not for what it could be or turn into. Not think about it. Not talk about it. You just do the same actions with each girl. You know what you did wrong there, so......don't do that thing. Lol you might not have known at the time how to look at things, but now you do. And now you can see why what you did led to a failure with the relationship.
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:05 PM
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I hope I don’t come off to others as a danger. Even if it's not physical danger, women are repelled by emotional danger as well. That's why girls don't like the idea of finding themselves seduced by a "fuck boy". They want reassurances that they aren't going to get hurt. Well, maybe dangerous to myself but only myself. This is why you appear dangerous. The one person you should be nice to is the one you can't be nice to. Can't you see why that's fuckin scary, bud? Positive thinking about myself …
/r/seduction26/11/19 05:11 PM
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One of the particular reasons I’m on this forum is to land the girls I actually want. Is there any other tips to get out of this mindset where a girl presents qualities that make you want to basically oneitis her? Yes. You need to realize that this next bit applies to every relationship you'll ever have. that’s because I did not truly care about the outcome (because i couldn’t imagine anything long term). Don't entertain the idea that any relationship can be long term. There's so, so many things…
/r/seduction26/11/19 04:58 PM
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I wasn't trying to convey a personal message of my own, I was trying to make you be aware of something about yourself. I don't think you're a bad person because of your self-centeredness and I don't really care that you have low self esteem. I'm not invested in whether you become confident either, aside from the fact that it seems like something that you want. So here's my personal message that I would like to convey. Let go of your ego. Stop thinking about yourself, but if you do, only allow yo…
/r/seduction26/11/19 04:34 PM
1

Your delusions are present in this post, too. I do respect people and their opinions. Followed immediately by its more for their protection This is taking away another person's agency. The reason you even said that immediately after saying otherwise exemplifies your delusion. can see the girl’s interest literally disappear before my eyes. Right, so it was there initially and then you placed your own beliefs on the interaction and created the scenario. You have decided for her that she will see y…
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:36 PM
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I don't really question their motives. My motives to be here aren't to get better with women, but to share my experiences with less experienced men. So when I see women post here, regardless of their motives, I appreciate their presence from motives' perspective. I don't have experience being a woman, so I can't give good advice on seduction related to women. This is also why I appreciate more women joining the culture, because at some point, a seductive woman will join. She will be able to give…
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:31 PM
6

100 dudes in India waiting for a new girl to send "bobs and vageen?" messages to isn't exactly "getting men".
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:23 PM
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I don’t necessarily want to “seduce” girls just to get laid as I am tryna find someone for a relationship. You do still get laid before a relationship discussion takes place, right? It's not clear from your post if you're experienced or not. I just see that it's a common theme, some men don't know the realistic order. If you look for a girl to be in a relationship with, you first look for a girl to have sex with. You can't skip that part. Pop culture suggests otherwise, that women and men fall i…
/r/seduction26/11/19 12:12 PM
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There's been plenty of women here lately. Y'all are welcome here.
/r/seduction26/11/19 12:00 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, I do not like that this is what I have had to decide is right and wrong. I do actually wish the world were different, but I gave up entertaining those fantasy many years ago. I chose to live in the world that exists, even if many of its qualities makes me sad for a lot of reasons. A lot of it makes me happy, but I am afflicted with a type of memory that doesn't allow me to forget emotional interactions with others. Forty years from now, I'd be able to tell you wh…
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:34 AM
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but I am also brutally honest and this is simply my truth. Lol no you're not, you're deluded. No one's opinion matters but yours, your ego is out of control and you think the bad thoughts you think about yourself mean otherwise. They're actually what make you a totally self centered jerk. Get over yourself and start respecting other people. Start respecting their opinions. Start allowing other people to make decisions. Stop thinking about only yourself. Why even go on a date with a girl ever, if…
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:01 AM
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Lol yeah, my mom probably wouldn't call you smart or cool, you got me, kid!
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:01 PM
1

Oh you, heard it here folks! This kid is rewriting everything we know about game! Everyone listen up! He's got really smart things to say! Very smart, very cool
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:40 PM
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No, attraction is on or off, as far as I'm concerned. Attraction is just a feeling, feelings don't mean a single thing without an action. I don't look past a woman's attraction and think it means more than that. I still have work to do. It's not a win, it's a piece of information that allows me to execute strategy that I've developed through thousands of hours of trial and error. Quick example: Woman says, "You are such a damn fine looking man." while standing right next to her husband, they're …
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:03 PM
2

Or if narcissists weren't just so god damn good at hiding their true nature. I have never felt so foolish in my life, than the first few months after breaking up with a sociopath. The fog lifts and suddenly everything makes sense, I look back and every single thing seems obvious and I was completely unaware until hindsight.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:57 PM
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You can probably relate, you probably had better success when you had worked out the inner part before instead of looking for value outside of yourself, neediness is not attractive. I can relate, but it's difficult for me to separate and analyse at what point did success begin and why. Most of this game, I figured out alone. When I started, my only exposure was to Neil Strauss' book The Game, but by the time I had read that, I was way past everything in the book. Everything I read was less about…
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:53 PM
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Cool, so you don't have problems getting women and have had past successes to compare to and build on? You're telling me my advice isn't relevant to you? Well, I guess we're on the exact same page then, dude. Surely, you can recognize that other guys aren't even close to you and I sure know many aren't capable of doing what I can do. I have spoken to probably 5,000(10,000?) women in the last decade. I can't teach that number into existence for other guys and I can't produce the same knowledge I'…
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:56 PM
1

Also, I don't ask girl's what they do. I don't really care, so why am I gonna ask anything I don't care about? This post might help you.
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:34 PM
1

Sometimes it isn't instant, sometimes it is, but the patterns always pop up. In interactions, I'm comparing and contrasting everything they're doing. I know what a woman looks like and acts like that isn't into me. Don't you? So I do me and I'm observing her. The moment she goes from a woman that looks like and acts like she's not into me towards anything else, then I know she's finally decided I'm hot. Girls not into me look bored, disinterested, apathetic, bitch faced, etc. Everything else the…
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:17 PM
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I get it and I did mentally put myself in your shoes. I can sympathize, because imagining a gorgeous woman gushing over a kid of mine and flirting with me sounds exactly like something I'd have trouble not engaging in. Just thinking about how horrible a few girls turned out freaks me out imagining them near a kid. Lol
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:08 PM
1

I would agree, but I had to mention it, because I'm not going to assume he doesn't care about his job. Ya know?
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:03 PM
1

I don't know, it's not really like I had the same stuff happening to me when I started out. I wasn't always in a great mood, wasn't smiling, wasn't super smoothly social, wasn't unafraid to say bawdy shit and I didn't succeed as much. So is it my looks? Sure didn't seem to help at first, at least definitely not how things go now when I'm out and on. Describing the situation with your ex's, reconsider that perhaps you were displaying different things to those two girls and it worked like a charm.…
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:01 PM
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Sounds determined and sounds like a guy that doesn't bitch out. You sound like the groveling dog, a literal bitch. Ha!
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:47 AM
1

It's all a game to me. This is "game", but I literally want to play with women. I want a good time, I don't really want their pussy or their titties. I want to play the game of seduction and attraction when I go out. I just get super cocky and playful, flirty, etc and I pretty much haven't done any direct approach in years and years. I've been a proponent of indirect approaches for a long time. Picture yourself ten feet tall with a shit eating grin, that can make a girl wet just by wiggling your…
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:39 AM
1

No offense, bud. I don't want to tell you how to raise your kid, but I don't think women deserve to meet her until way later. I believe a majority of women are good, but I believe there's a select few that are downright predatory and fucking evil. When I meet a woman, they can seem like angels, but I know those predators looked like angels when I first met them and I'm loathe to consider the consequences of allowing them a closeness to any offspring of mine. You don't need your daughter to picku…
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:21 AM
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There ya go, Tiger.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:10 AM
4

Not watching a YouTube video, but everything you said I do agree with. I can't remember the last time I was "rejected" because I don't operate in a way that necessitates rejection from another person. Shit, 90% of the time girls have no clue I like them, because I don't act like EveryDudeUSA. They're used to a different kind of interaction with men. Guys hound them, throw their dick at them, ask them for this or that. I just keep talking. Keep flirting. Keep being sexy and pushing buttons. Keep …
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:08 AM
3

Move on, focus on the other girls, because that's the only way she'd ever come around. You're not the kind of guy that succeeds with her, because you're currently the kind of guy that can't stop yourself from thinking about her.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:50 AM
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It's five girls. That sample size is way too small to get any kind of "feel good" from it. Dude wants immediate success and that's unrealistic. Five girls, pshhhh!
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:47 AM
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5? You've got like...25 more to go to get laid. Those are rookie numbers. Gotta pump those numbers up!
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:45 AM
3

Sure, would've done something differently, but you cuddled so who cares? I would've said something like, "If you think I'm small, you should see my penis. Now that is small." with the exact same cocky grin. Because then she knows there's not a god damn thing she can say to me that's going to knock me down any notch. I'm gonna have a cocky grin, because I know without a doubt that the thought in her head right at that moment is my penis. I know she's going to be curious. I also know that sparking…
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:43 AM
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No, dummy. That's not how girls work, that's what I'm trying to tell you. And I'm also trying to tell you that your opinion doesn't mean shit. Just like mine doesn't. I do not think I'm attractive and I personally don't like what I see in the mirror. I just know for a fact that I'm a handsome guy to others, regardless of what I think or whether I agree or not. Like you.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:14 AM
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At first, I didn't realize he said it doesn't work and I was like, "Yeah, all this is solid advice." But anyway, here's a line I have used successfully, while reading a girl's palm, "No, no I'm serious. I'm super good at this, let me see. Oh...oh no, that's no good. Oh, wow, you really did that? I never would've expected that from a girl like you." "Haha oh stop it!" "No wait, this part is interesting, says you're going to meet someone handsome and funny." "Oh, does it now?" "No, sorry...that wa…
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:09 AM
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Here
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:48 AM
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I use Snapchat for the long haul kinda game. Like I know my story is going to get looked at and it's going to be interesting, but I'll occasionally see a girl's story that has something worth commenting on. And like you, I know I'm funny and attractive. I know I'm interesting. So I know when I talk, those things are going to be present. If I added a girl to Snapchat, then she's in my bank for later. If I wanted to go on a date with her already, then I'd be texting to set that up, but I use snap …
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:43 AM
3

If you call her out, she was right to flake, because you're a loser I can't stop laughing.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:26 AM
1

"Like a little cute duckling?" then I'd boop her nose with my finger. boop
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:24 AM
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What advice are you looking for exactly? Confirmation? Yeah, dude, you're attractive. Get over it and act accordingly. What you think of your looks means zero, it's all those girls whose opinion matters. Even the old ladies. I take care of myself. I cut my hair regularly. I always trim or grow my beard out and make sure it's sculpted. I always wear clean, nice fitting clothes. I am 6ft flat and 192lbs. I get attention from girls from this weight, all the way up to 250lbs! I think I was like 240l…
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:21 AM
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First, yes, she's interested and you don't need to think anymore about it. Second, you just operate on that information and ask her if she wants to be with you on X day, doing Y thing. Third, you ask if she wants to go back to your place if things are feeling nice through that activity. Fourth, read this post on escalation that I made for the physical stuff. Fifth, don't talk about relationship stuff unless she asks. When she does ask, tell her that you feel you're too young and immature to be a…
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:03 AM
1

Always confirm before I'm gonna get ready, then I know what I'll be doing that day and dress accordingly.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:50 AM
1

Partly his looks, just like every other dude that's smashin. Looks get you in the door, words and confidence keep you in the house.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:47 AM
1

Girls don't talk to guys that aren't "in their league". So get with the program chief, you're as hot or hotter than she is and surprise surprise, you're not an autosexual.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:04 AM
3

That your thing? Shitting on people? Neat, dude. ✋ high five.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:02 AM
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I have a way with words. I am clever and I am smooth and at no point in a conversation with a woman am I at a loss for words, because I have goals. Now I wasn't always like that, because I wasn't always aware of how language works, or why we use it. I went to college for linguistics though, so I learned a lot about language and human's capacity for it. There's a theory that every utterance has a purpose and every purpose belongs to the person who uttered it. The only reason we use language is to…
/r/seduction25/11/19 01:23 AM
2

You just gotta do it, bud. Feelings happen, fear happens, but you'll still have talked to girls. You'll be alive afterwards and you'll learn that fear, anxiety, doesn't stop you. I used to cliff dive in Arizona. No matter how many times I've jumped off a cliff, that shit always scared me. You can sit on top of that cliff all day and it won't go anywhere. You'll be scared the entire time you're sitting there and the only time the fear goes away is once you hit the water. After a hundred times, ju…
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:36 AM
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So let's imagine that there's this magical ladder. The ladder has thoughts and feelings and talks. It's still a ladder, so it has a purpose. The ladder's purpose is for you to climb, all you have to do is climb the ladder and then you'll be able to get to a place you weren't before. At the top of the ladder is the thing you want. That's how the relationship with ladders work, right? The painter needs to paint a ceiling, he uses a ladder. The roofer needs to get into the roof, he uses a ladder. S…
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:17 AM
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I focus on other things relating to myself and what I want. I want to feel good, I want good times, I want amusing things, etc. I'll keep myself in a frame of mind that's light and playful and has nothing to do with a girl being there or not, and then when I see one, I'll think about those things I want up there. I'll have a smile in my eyes and I'm primed and ready to smile, usually thinking a silly thing. My go to simple silly thought is, "GONNA MAKE THAT BITCH SMILE!" then I'll smile and she'…
/r/seduction24/11/19 11:17 PM
1

Do not listen to the retard.
/r/seduction24/11/19 11:13 PM
1

Sometimes, it just depends entirely on how you make her feel. If she thinks you fuck a bunch of girls, yet talks to you, do you think she's talking to you because you're unattractive? No. So why'd she mention that you're a fuck boy? Because she doesn't want to feel like an easy piece of ass that you'll fuck and toss aside. That's her insecurity, that's her fear. Your job is to make her comfortable throughout the entire process. That's done through various means, but the goal is always the same. …
/r/seduction24/11/19 11:10 PM
2

Stop your shit, bud. Reality check yourself, before you wreck yourself. You didn't get rejected. You didn't do anything wrong. She fell asleep and just wasn't that invested, you were, so you feel hurt and insecure. The feelings are fine. Do no more actions based on those feelings though. As far as your actions go, none of this happened. The only thing that really happened is feelings. Feelings are fine, let them do their thing. They come in, then they go out. We're men. We can hate each other, p…
/r/seduction24/11/19 11:01 PM
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Uh, you should absolutely maintain some sort of contact if you like her. You don't have to gush, but damn...tell her something, because the likelihood of her feeling way more insecure than you are right now is super high. Just let her know that you'd like to see her when you get back to town.
/r/seduction24/11/19 10:49 PM
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You're very correct that this is unhealthy, but I don't think this is the place that can help you. I honestly think that you may need to speak to a therapist. The biggest red flag is your suicidal thoughts regarding it, but the next red flag is the fantasy women you create. You don't fully acknowledge and respect women's personal agency. All that you focus on is half of a woman's possible choices as "okay" and that's the part that isn't okay. We could all try to fix this by saying something magi…
/r/seduction24/11/19 10:46 PM
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Good job, bud. Nurture that confidence and see who you become!
/r/seduction24/11/19 10:20 PM
2

Wouldn't our world be a better place if we all decided we had a moral obligation to each other to avoid fucking each others partners? Yes, but operating in a fantasy world is a silly notion. You can only operate in the real world that we have, regardless of what you wish the world were like. The world has predators, the world has liars, the world has cheaters. My moral code is based on me operating inside that real world. The personal strategies I have are because I've acknowledged those types o…
/r/seduction24/11/19 10:18 PM
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it doesn't seem like you have one when it comes to other peoples relationships, I know that sounds a bit harsh. It's not harsh, it's 100% accurate. I don't concern myself with other people's relationships at all. I refuse to place any of my morals on other's relationships and I do concern myself only with my individual relationship with a person. So, I have a ton of girl friends. Many of them started dating men after I had already knew the girl. They may start dating a great guy, but many times …
/r/seduction24/11/19 10:05 PM
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Been doing this a long time, cannot stop feeling or thinking about girls. I have no control over that and it's a fool's errand to try. You can control your actions and that's that. How do you incorporate that into your game then? You know that feeling you get when a girl doesn't reply in a timely manner(in your opinion)? The common response is to send another message, or ask wtf, or start spiraling and sending message after message, freaking out and increasing your anxiety as each stupid fuckin …
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:24 PM
7

Hi, is this your bodyguard? I notice you're always both together, but she might be packin heat, so I was nervous. I don't wanna get shot. Too young and handsome to die. Edit: You probably can't pull that off, but if you do, you'll be a legend. I'm 36, so saying something like that would just flow right out of my mouth with oozing confidence. If you can muster (even a fake) confidence, it will start a conversation with her. Stay playful and just have fun once you start talking.
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:57 PM
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Well, it honestly does sound like you've got everything going for you. So, I bet I know what you're missing! You don't touch women when you should. Also, being described as a nice guy is fine, but being a "nice guy" is different. A "nice guy" would say something like, "I really like you and if you want to be my girlfriend or whatever, then I would like to be your boyfriend, but I won't touch you disrespectfully, because you are a princess flower." I'm described as a nice guy, by many people. Thi…
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:50 PM
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I'll do the same thing I have always done. I will explain where their hostility should actually be directed and if they disagree, then they'll have to do what they came to do. If so, they should be prepared for the consequences, because I always am. I won't let a strangers misguided hostility affect who I am, or what my moral beliefs are. A gun or a knife or a bat could be involved, but that kind of thing can happen randomly, at any time. I have been shot at, I have been stabbed, I have been att…
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:16 PM
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My favorite rejection ever went like this. I was at a bus stop and this hot girl was waiting for the bus. I walked past her to kind of let her know that I exist and "check" the bus stop sign to make sure it was the right bus. Then I walked back to her and asked if she knew when the next bus comes by. We start chatting and joking and she's not only hot, but has a great personality. Bus shows up and its kind of crowded, so we can't sit near each other. She's a seat or two back and across the aisle…
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:05 PM
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Aww, buddy. I know how you feel, but I honestly think it's a sort of grief that's felt because of a loss. The loss is just the crash of good feelings. You are on this ride (with three women lol) and it's fuckin glorious! Immediately after the ride stops, your body, your mind, your hormones all come crashing back to normal levels. It's difficult to not feel grief and loss. Grief is temporary though, you're just processing everything that happened to you. Just relax and wait a week or two and let …
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:54 PM
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Damn. Ain't that some shit.
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:40 PM
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Let's dispel a myth, first off. www.newscientist.com/article/2209908-sexual-images-are-just-as-arousing-for-women-as-they-are-for-men/amp/) Second, let's discuss women. They take a while to "get there" and it takes you mere seconds. If a woman has sent a nude picture, she's probably been working towards "getting there" herself. Possibly all day, possibly all week, or maybe she just woke up horny as a mother fucker. Either way, she thought of you at that time. She took a picture or she had it sav…
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:10 PM
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If you think so little of yourself, may I just point out then that your opinion of yourself means absolutely fuckin zero? You think you have an ugly face? Who the fuck do you think you are, loser? You have no right to tell me that. You have no right to decide that for women. You also have no right to tell me or women that you have a shit personality. Your opinion of yourself matters exactly zero. So when your mind starts telling you, "I'm ugly, don't talk to her. Also, don't talk to her, because…
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:30 PM
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See, your situation perfectly exemplifies my point. Why would it be your responsibility to tiptoe through life, because of other people's poor morals? Why would you take blame or responsibility, when your commitments were never in question? I acknowledge that others lie and others cheat. I might not like it, but I sure as fuck am not taking any of their responsibility. Some will point out that you've enabled them. Yeah, sure. If you think so little of women that you don't agree they can go fuck …
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:14 PM
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Well, not gonna argue against that, but kind of an altogether convoluted issue. I have avoided women for related things, but that's not really moralistic. We're just far too different to have relations.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:07 PM
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It's impossible to be cheated on without commitments being made.
/r/seduction24/11/19 04:52 PM
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Said it a hundred times. Ain't my job to keep a woman honest. Ain't my job to make a woman's decisions for her. I'm responsible for my own relationships and my own actions in those relationships. I will fuck a cheater and regardless of your opinions on that, your morals don't sway mine. I will not investigate whether a woman is in a relationship, so if they're single, then we'd bone. If they're not single, they can lie to me, I would be none the wiser. If I find out later that I've been lied to,…
/r/seduction24/11/19 04:48 PM
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That's how it's been with my wife, but I think she's just 99% gay. She's kinda lewd about women, but has no interest in men. She's recognized a few men as attractive visually, but I can count them all on one hand. Women turn her head constantly and she develops huge crushes, falls in love with them, gets hurt by them. The other women I've been with it seems to be a toss up. Some still see other dudes, some don't until we break up. I've asked about it and the responses I get usually seem to be al…
/r/seduction24/11/19 01:23 PM
2

What do you believe?
/r/seduction23/11/19 09:03 PM
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As a girl, you're imagining a worst case scenario fantasy. That's what girls do. The moment that you hear of a reality that sounds nice, as opposed to that fantasy you've built before learning about the guy, then you'd probably be on board with an attractive man. It might sound like nonsense, but that's because you'll hold onto that fantasy of being betrayed. In my experience, bold and shameless honesty is met with respect. Most women that I speak to in a dating capacity will hear me out and man…
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:47 PM
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Yeah, bullshit. I don't hide how many girls I'm talking to, I don't hide that I'm married, I don't hide that I'm out on the town with several girls, I don't hide that I'm on a date with more than one girl. Last two stand-up comedy shows I've been to were with two girls. Both times the comedian has called me out on it and both times I ended up speaking to a couple more girls during the breaks or after show drinks. Blatantly obviously not a guy that's monogamous and it has led to more women than j…
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:18 PM
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First, I rarely have posts removed that I've responded to, actually I can't remember a single one. Reason being that I don't entertain posters that ask the wrong questions. Those posters rarely know the subs rules, culture, and they typically aren't familiar with seduction at all. In essence, they're lazy and ignorant. I don't see the sub going in "weird direction". Second, we do not need a space for just men. We need more women and we need a safer space for women to be able to join the communit…
/r/seduction22/11/19 12:15 PM
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I've been posting here for ages, I disagree with every single thing you said. That's my two cents.
/r/seduction22/11/19 03:22 AM
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I've been kissed first by the last 4 women I've dated. I've been into seduction for 9 years though. So....I have other things happen to me that probably don't happen to lots of dudes around here, but it is possible to be in a position where women tend to kiss you first. I wouldn't recommended a novice to expect any girl to kiss them though. They still need to "do something", whether it's go for the kiss at the appropriate time, or create the situation like I do, after years of understanding wome…
/r/seduction21/11/19 12:50 PM
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Don't forget Seaghán, Seaġán, or Shon. Also, John. Lol
/r/seduction18/11/19 12:56 PM
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Only the hot kind, because you really wanna believe they're normal, and you can't actually believe that yourself is as hot as they are. Plus, the really crazy ones are purposely hiding all the bullshit until you stick your dick in Pandora's box and then the cackle slips out, foreshadowing the plague you've brought upon your life.
/r/seduction16/11/19 05:20 PM
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Thanks for the feminine perspective, ma'am.
/r/seduction16/11/19 05:11 PM
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You're absolutely right. I do not believe this post should be here. The audience she's targeting in her message is not here. She's sending this message to a ton of introverts, socially awkward men, inexperienced men and she's wrong for doing that. She's not wrong for feeling the way she does, because it's valid. She's wrong about the conclusions she's drawn from her feelings, she's wrong about the advice she's giving based on her feelings, and she should take a closer look at what she actually d…
/r/seduction14/11/19 12:56 PM
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You're trying to womansplain to men a side of life to which we see another side. You and the OP can tell us that "women don't like this thing men do", but then you have men here with hundreds of real life examples that do not support your feelings and point of view. Have we approached women that didn't enjoy it? Yes. Have we approached women that did enjoy it? Yes. Have the majority disliked it, or liked it? Well, in my reality, I've had more women enjoy it and I've only been "rejected" a conver…
/r/seduction14/11/19 12:34 PM
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Do you like how she's acting or is it just under your skin that she's not acting like other girls do? If you don't like this behavior, then you don't like this girl. If you don't like the girl, then find a different one. Those small problems now would manifest in larger ways down the road.
/r/seduction13/11/19 12:35 PM
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It's not something they say after get to know me, but something they say always when they meet me. Lol bullshit, dude. Don't forget that I know women inside and out and that's not how women act unsolicited. I've seen ugly as fuck guys that are total pussy slayers, it ain't your looks. All the blame is on you, not your parent's genes. Women settle. Women may find hot guys attractive, but they still fuck ugly dudes and date ugly dudes.
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:51 PM
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Are you comfortable around women? Does an attractive woman make you nervous when they come into your presence? If the answer is yes, then your discomfort is reflected and you make them nervous and uncomfortable. What about women you've ever been alone with before? Have you ever been in either your room or her room? Did you believe it was platonic? Did you make any moves? Have you ever felt like you should make a move and have not? If you have, then you're not as ugly as you think, and you're act…
/r/seduction11/11/19 01:11 PM
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I do like your post, but I feel there's inaccuracies. You have described how I treat women, I can talk to anyone. Most women toss me random compliments throughout our conversations. Most girls in my friend groups flirt with me, unless their man is around. Most girls that I talk to ask for my number or ask to meet up again. Outwardly, you would label me a natural seducer, but it's just not the case. At one point, hardly any women found me attractive. Later on, more women found me attractive. Nowa…
/r/seduction10/11/19 01:29 PM
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I'm telling you that there's no reason to do it, besides the erroneous ones you've listed, because you're spouting nonsense and bro science. It's homeopathy and you're being such a Gwyneth Paltrow. You still are not providing me any support for your argument. You claim not masturbating helps guys in a seduction based manner, helps raise test levels and that everyone should just try it! Cuz it's great! Why? How? Prove it. Give me the research and outline how it supports what you're putting forwar…
/r/seduction10/11/19 06:41 AM
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I see someone is a chronic masturbator. I see that you don't want to provide any evidence to the crap you're saying. Furthermore, everything I know about male health suggests the complete opposite to the things you're saying, aside from sensitivity perhaps. Regular and frequent orgasm/ejaculation is a more healthy choice, your advice to others is therefore detrimental to health of others and I don't think you should be saying it at all. Especially without providing evidence.
/r/seduction09/11/19 10:04 PM
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You guys should definitely take /r/joi from another guy.
/r/seduction09/11/19 02:00 PM
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Super ugly way to display a very accurate assessment. Seriously, a little bit of work and this would carry the message to more people. It's a good message. Also, fuck narcissists, but good luck not fucking narcissists, because they're sneaky as fuck.
/r/seduction08/11/19 02:21 PM
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The first time I got annihilated in night game I was indirect as can be, "Is someone sitting here?" which was met with the response, "I'm trying to order a fucking drink, dude!" Another time, I've walked right across the bar to a girl staring into my eyes. She was surrounded by 5 guys 4 girls and I held my hand out and said, "Would you like to go outside with me?" My wingman at the time said I earned 10 swag points, so I'm assuming it looked as direct and successful as it felt to do. See, then I…
/r/seduction08/11/19 12:30 PM
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I chose can and should specifically, so that both of those are loose guidelines, because I'm not always indirect or direct in either scenario. It's just a guideline for where I've seen the more appropriate approaches.
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:45 AM
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Consider your audience, all the men here that struggle, that don't know simple changes they can make to be more attractive (like take a shower regularly). If any of these dudes dressed like a hobo and my talk puts him into "trying to hard", then good, because he ain't trying right now. Stagnation is the killer of seduction. You don't move, you don't eat.
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:40 AM
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I share as much of my experience as I can here, for like years now.
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:36 AM
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That seems a get shallow take on it, as if I am not the sum of all my decisions, effort, and experiences? You think I've "changed" for a girl, where I think I've changed everything about me that I've wanted to change, for the better. My desire to get better with women was a skill that I wanted, it's part of me now. I've tried I don't know how many hairstyles and haircuts. I learned to cut my own hair 5 years ago, haven't stopped "changing" since. I've "changed" styles over the years, but one the…
/r/seduction08/11/19 03:56 AM
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Change your hair, your clothes, your attitude, get better pictures. Ask friends and family what pictures of you are good, figure out why. Don't be lame in your profile, don't be lame when you message a girl. "Ok, have some examples of how to not be lame?" No, you have to practice and figure you out.
/r/seduction08/11/19 01:36 AM
2

I agree, you can.
/r/seduction08/11/19 01:31 AM
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And so do others that I totally respect, it's just never going to make sense for me.
/r/seduction07/11/19 09:48 PM
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I think so, too. If I'm out in a day, I'm not there for women, I just take notice of opportunities with women. If I'm playing my guitar in public, why would I talk about how attractive she is? That's weird.
/r/seduction07/11/19 09:48 PM
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Extremely, I'd say I have way more experience than night game, but I'm not a slouch there either. I've been in seduction for almost a decade.
/r/seduction07/11/19 09:46 PM
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Night game = you can be direct Day game = you should be indirect. But that's just like, my opinion, man
/r/seduction07/11/19 08:43 PM
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Thing is, y'all inexperienced jerk offs read shit like this and automatically think, "Oh yup, I'm ugly." Naw, you dense fuck, go to college, learn to research, learn to analyze, learn to science. You have zero clue why you don't get swipes or responses, you just think it's because you're ugly. What about all the other variables? Your clothes? Your hair? Your pictures? Your profile? Your first message? I worked my dick off to get matches. I wanted matches! Then I didn't get responses, the fuck? I…
/r/seduction07/11/19 08:40 PM
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College girls? Naw. More mature women, sure....I don't have to do much but be sexy for them though, they prefer that I know I am. So my flirting is more about playful hard to get or just aloof.
/r/seduction07/11/19 04:08 AM
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“sorry to disturb you in your work.” I just said something like “it’s no problem.” Well, you should be. You're both bad, I can tell. You lure me in with church as the honey pot, then you both try and corrupt my innocence. My grandmother definitely warned me about girls like you! I use any opportunity to be ridiculous and flirty, even if it's multiple girls, include them all.
/r/seduction06/11/19 04:14 PM
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Bunch of people reading this and taking it the wrong way. I'm not sure you can really take this the correct way without the context of almost dying, or having something extremely profound happen to you. This point of view on life isn't about death, or that it's just around the corner, the point is that you are still here. Whether you gain something from knowing this or not depends on if you have almost had it taken away. "I'm still here" means a lot to me. I've had so many close calls with death…
/r/seduction05/11/19 12:32 PM
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Oh, that's easy. You say things that they like and don't say things they don't like. If that answer seems too simple, then perhaps ask a better question, because that one doesn't make you seem genuinely curious. Edit: I just woke up, that came across more dickish than intended. I'm saying I cannot simply answer what to talk to women about. That's not how talking works.
/r/seduction29/10/19 10:32 AM
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The humane society here is very nice, it actually made me consider this in the future for a date option. There's a couple sculptures, lots of wide open glass rooms where the cats are as soon as you walk in. Comfortable homes, play area, cat friends to play with each other. The puppies are all in the back, because they're barky but after checking in they let you back there to meet dogs you want. During check in, you sit on comfy benches in the lobby, which is a warm area, perfect for sitting clos…
/r/seduction28/10/19 11:33 AM
1

Reading through the comments, many of you can't grasp the concept in the way which it naturally unfolds. If you read this without confidence being natural to you, then nothing in this excerpt will help you, because it's describing the traits of someone else. It's not telling you how to get there yourself. You cannot create a specific curriculum for confidence. Each learner will have different needs. All of your values are varied, all of your knowledge is varied, you're all at varying levels of c…
/r/seduction25/10/19 12:11 PM
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It depends how far how out there you put yourself. Women do chase regularly if it's something you figure out. There's always a balance to learn with seduction and the balance can be applied to different things. Two steps forward, one step back. You can make a girl feel good twice, neg once. You can touch a girl twice, pull away once. You can agree twice, disagree once. You can respond to two texts and then get busy. You can be aloof and provide an attention that feels so very good that women tol…
/r/seduction21/10/19 12:38 AM
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It has been working out well for me, so I think it would do well for others, yep.
/r/seduction16/10/19 09:36 PM
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That's perfect though, know your strengths and weaknesses. I'm a jack of all trades and master of none. Seems like once I feel I've "got something" enough to get a C+ then I'm bored. I'm so good at being average though. Everyone thinks I'm "good at everything I do", ha! I'm good enough!
/r/seduction16/10/19 12:08 PM
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Two to three hobbies? You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers! But seriously, never stop learning. Not just hobbies, but skills. A hobby doesn't have to be fun, it can be hard as fuck and so interesting that you don't want to ignore it. Some fun hobbies, some hard hobbies, just balance yourself. Here's a list of things I do, come back to, or have done over the years. As a child: soccer, tae kwon do, judo, jeetkundo, tournaments, painting, drawing, reading, BMX, inline skate, sk…
/r/seduction16/10/19 12:02 PM
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Ok, I was in class three times before a go-go dancer asked if I wanted to hangout in her new hot tub with my fiancee, and bdsm was the topic of conversation at the time. You might just not say the right things to women, dude. You can work on that, then you're "allowed" to talk to girls anywhere.
/r/seduction16/10/19 11:14 AM
1

What's your goal here?
/r/seduction14/10/19 12:05 AM
1

A person that only thinks negative self thoughts is still a person who only thinks of themselves, they only act based on how they perceive themselves, or worse....how they perceive someone else will perceive them. A person with self loathing is self centered. They are centered on their self. You think only a certain kind of person is self centered?
/r/seduction13/10/19 08:59 PM
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I see the OP responded to you, but I don't think you're confused. I think you've got it perfectly. This isn't a popular opinion, but I keep saying it. Your ego does show how far up your own ass you are and it does lead to greater insecurities, which leads to greater anxieties, which leads to greater forms of exhibiting behaviors. The most extreme behaviors we have often come from our anxieties. We have all these crazy ass tools for protecting our egos: active avoidance, passive avoidance, lashin…
/r/seduction13/10/19 12:33 PM
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Here's how getting girls works: Be around girls. Be alone with a girl when she agrees to it. Touch girl when she lets you. Kiss girl when she lets you. Take off clothes when she lets you. Now let's play out scenarios on how to not get a girl. Don't be around girls. Don't be alone around a girl that wants to be alone with you. Don't touch a girl that wants you to touch her. Don't kiss a girl that wants you to kiss her. Don't take off anyone's clothes. If you want girls, you have to do every singl…
/r/seduction11/10/19 11:17 AM
1

No, I said physical compliments and I said focus of the interactions.
/r/seduction10/10/19 10:25 AM
6

Speaking to women is a perfectly normal social behavior. Speaking to women in certain ways can be creepy, but speaking to them other ways can enjoyable for both parties. When you speak to people online, you may not know their gender or sex. Perhaps you can find out if you research a little bit, or ask that online person. Until you find out the sexual identity of that person, you may not speak a certain way. Perhaps you "keep things above the belt", but you can still enjoy the conversation and so…
/r/seduction09/10/19 07:47 PM
2

I think you're tone deaf.
/r/seduction09/10/19 07:14 PM
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What have we learned from the title alone, class? That's right, don't be sleazy when you approach women, or you'll end up in the title of an article.
/r/seduction09/10/19 12:04 PM
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Until you become a man that regularly gets approached, then you have an entirely new perception of how things are. The ways in which women are totally comfortable with being approached are the same ways I'm comfortable being approached and I don't like being approached the ways they don't like being approached. I've used this information to learn what not to do to others, because I don't enjoy it being done to me. I don't like having things yelled at me from moving vehicles. I don't like people …
/r/seduction09/10/19 11:56 AM
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Check it out: You don't ask a fish how to catch a fish. That applies to taking advice from women, but it applies to you now. You're the fish. Your advice is just as useful as most women's advice about what they find attractive in men. You ever fuck any of these dudes? No, right? You don't find men attractive, they haven't given you any real good evidence towards anything except that you're attractive. I do get hit on by gay dudes, but lots more women. So, I get it, but you're going too far in yo…
/r/seduction08/10/19 11:27 PM
2

I prefer helping around here publicly, so that others can benefit from the questions and answers. Odds are that others struggle with the same things.
/r/seduction07/10/19 12:26 PM
1

In my experience, it took a while for efforts to pay off when I started. I don't think I had any real success for about two years. After that, things accelerated and today (8-9 years after the fact) I can't believe I ever had trouble with women. Also, I have to ask. Did you change anything about the way you approach women, once you started to see you were doing it wrong? Have you been doing the exact same things, or have you tried to adapt? If you've been trying the exact same things and expecti…
/r/seduction07/10/19 11:50 AM
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In my experience, you can say a lot more indirectly to women comfortably than you can directly. So never say things like, "I can see myself tying you up and spanking you for that little remark!" instead you can say, "Man, I could totally see myself spanking a girl for saying that to me." Everything sexual you talk about can comfortably be said in a hypothetical, but it gets uncomfortable when you start adding the girl into your hypotheticals. She's still going to place herself into the hypotheti…
/r/seduction05/10/19 01:28 PM
2

Right, and if you don't make a move, they will sometimes feel rejected or at least in some kind of way that activates a defense mechanism.
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:25 AM
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it seemed to me like she gave me 1 shot to fuck her and I blew it so she was flakey after that. Is that common? Absolutely the biggest lesson you need to learn about women. Once they're ready to get physical, if you don't act, your chance is typically blown.
/r/seduction03/10/19 02:16 AM
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I've talked to so many fuckin women and this has been a huge majority. Like overwhelmingly common behavior, you gotta go through so much bullshit when dating multiple women.
/r/seduction03/10/19 02:13 AM
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A metaphor I've always thought about on my own journey with game is to keep a scientific approach and a scientific mind about things. You gather the data without placing value judgements on the data you receive. If your hypothesis isn't supported, you change variables in your experiment and use the last experiment as the foundation. All the data collected is useful, but without the experiment, you don't get to learn anything important about the data. If all you have is data, then everything you …
/r/seduction02/10/19 01:29 PM
4

It's also the moment in time that the friendzone is established, assuming this person stays in your life, you're no longer a sexual interest.
/r/seduction28/09/19 02:07 PM
1

I almost die every year or two and I feel it's been very good for my mental health. Lol
/r/seduction24/09/19 09:57 PM
2

Perfect practice makes perfect.
/r/seduction24/09/19 09:55 PM
2

I'm not entertaining people that claim to be ugly any longer, because they use the claim as if that's the reason they don't get laid. How the fuck would they know, unless they'd been hot before and got ugly by some disfigurement or acid bath or honey badger attack? We're born with shit and we can all cry about it or we can play the cards we're dealt to the best of our ability, while also trying to increase our abilities. All y'all mother fuckers should start posts like this with, "I'm ugly as fu…
/r/seduction24/09/19 09:48 PM
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Sure, but I was content with her pussy the first 8 years, too. Monogamy or not, she's been the same awesome woman.
/r/seduction24/09/19 01:32 PM
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There's no luck involved with this mentality, women just sense it all over you. It really does place the power back into your hands. The days we start realizing that we are desirable are the days when dating power paradigms begin to shift towards men. It's an almost impossible mentality to acquire for a virgin, we all have to go through some bullshit to realize that we're fuckable and we can't believe we're fuckable until we've fucked. After we've fucked enough and we've seen the power we have o…
/r/seduction24/09/19 11:38 AM
1

Man, I've been with my wife for over 16 years and I'm still not over her. Sure, I enjoy new women, too...but I haven't not wanted my wife yet. I don't see that happening, the chemistry and relationship has been amazing since day one.
/r/seduction24/09/19 11:30 AM
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I'm thinking you're leaning towards close minded. Not that it's a bad thing, per se. It's fine to know what you do not like. I don't really think anything of women talking about other men they're dating, because I have no issue talking to them about the women I'm seeing. Then again, I'm married, so it's rather a necessity for me to share that information with women. Out of that necessity comes an apathy for other women's relationships that are not mine.
/r/seduction23/09/19 11:59 AM
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It's not your face. Your pictures suck, your clothing sucks, your choice of what to show for a scene in your pictures suck, your profile blurb sucks, or all of the above. Source: I've always had the same face, but I haven't always had the same success online dating.
/r/seduction21/09/19 10:37 PM
1

That's fine, but she said herself that he's really hot, which means ignore everything else. It's a shit test and that's all it was. All he has to do is ignore it and move forward the interaction. I know, because I've done it I don't know how many times. I've been called gay, feminine, "basically a chick in a dude's body", and I've had sex with every one of those girls. So what do I know.
/r/seduction20/09/19 08:50 PM
1

No, she wants that man exactly the way he is. He doesn't need to change anything at all. Women confused, while also being attracted to you, is exactly how you want every interaction to go.
/r/seduction20/09/19 12:03 PM
2

"I thought you were gay!" Yeah, right bitch, that's why you asked me out for drinks and picked the darkest spot in the bar for us to sit? 🙄 Edit: Don't change your behavior, don't change who you are. Accept it fully and watch women trip over each other to get at you. I'm pretty masculine, but I'm also pretty feminine in some ways. I'm also completely comfortable with it and women love it. Even if they toss a shit test about it, it's something I can easily deflect, because I'm so secure in my sex…
/r/seduction20/09/19 12:01 PM
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What I think is surprising about it is that they don't hide their attraction at work. You talk to a woman you've never met and they usually hide that they're attracted, or maybe it's someone you know, but they just act "cool" about it. Girls at work in lower roles than me though, they would say some of the bawdiest shit. The only thing that I could reason out was that it may have been "group mentality" based. When I speak to a single woman, our interaction is based on just us two. Alternatively,…
/r/seduction20/09/19 11:47 AM
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It also shows that you're not a fat ass. Our brains are wired to instantly spot attractive ratios in a human shape. It takes all of .001sec to determine if you're looking at a man or a woman as far as body shapes go.
/r/seduction20/09/19 11:10 AM
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Examples to look out for: So doing anything fun this weekend? Why's she asking? Possibly to check your availability. Oh my god, you are so funny, we should hangout sometime! This means ask for her number. I'll be going to XYZ, well I see you there? She's inviting you to be there. What part of town do you live on? That means can I come by. Etc etc, anything that leaves an opening is for you to take or leave it. Most guys leave it. I sneak right in.
/r/seduction19/09/19 08:59 PM
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Well I guess I should clarify. Small talk and flirting is easy Flirting is the focus of my interactions. I engage in flirting, maybe not the small talk, because I find it boring. it's the transition into the date/number/ hookup situation, the shit I actually care about. How do you close the deal? Like how do you ask for something without asking for it? I focus on myself and how much I'm enjoying this. I'm liking the flirting, the attention, the attraction, the fact that this girl is hot. I also …
/r/seduction19/09/19 12:30 PM
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I also need to make it clear that being direct does work and if it's a person's usual method and it's preferred, then that person should keep doing it. I just believe the success rate is lower than indirect openers, where you're not forcing a decision on a woman you've just met. The times that direct won't work are when a woman decides against you immediately, so perhaps she would've decided differently, if she actually had time to make a good assessment of you. You never get to find out, becaus…
/r/seduction19/09/19 12:11 PM
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Also, what's with people in this thread bashing the direct opener of "hey, I thought you looked cute"? We've explained why and you can be good at something or you can be great at something, both levels of ability are successful. If you're happy with your level of success, then keep doing your method. The most common advice I give is to "Do what works best for you".
/r/seduction19/09/19 10:18 AM
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Try starting small and just opening strangers in general, not just women you find attractive. Eventually you can move onto women you find attractive, but the skill of being able to start a conversation with anyone will carry you right into the ability to talk to an attractive woman. You will learn ways in which you can start conversations without the pressure of failure or rejection. When you learn that you can start conversations with anyone, then you'll start with women, and then you'll learn …
/r/seduction19/09/19 02:23 AM
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What do you guys expect me to say to this kind of question? I've tried answering in the past, but my responses aren't good enough for people to not pick apart and find excuses to not use my methods themselves. What's a good indirect approach for you? Or me? All I have to do is say hi. I can say more and I have said more, but I've definitely just acknowledged a woman's presence and that's been enough to start hundreds of conversations. I know what I can get away with saying, but I don't know what…
/r/seduction19/09/19 02:14 AM
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Telling women the reason why you're talking to them is a risk. I personally don't ever see the gain for the risk. There's other ways to establish a man to woman interaction and volunteering information will typically always weaken your position in life, regardless of the scenario you find yourself in, but especially with women. Girls don't tell me they have a boyfriend often, and usually they're reluctant to share that with me if they do. That's because even if they have a man, they want a shot …
/r/seduction19/09/19 12:17 AM
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Amen, brother.
/r/seduction18/09/19 02:12 PM
1

Couldn't possibly be this beautiful attitude of yours, my little ray of sunshine?
/r/seduction16/09/19 05:48 PM
1

Excuse me?
/r/seduction14/09/19 07:41 PM
1

How do you do it? I chose to marry a bisexual woman, then I tell every new woman about me, my relationships, and my dating philosophy. I typically frame everything I say in a reverse psychology manner, telling women why we cannot date. This creates a challenge and women want to prove to me why we can date. Well, after they do that, then we're basically dating in their mind. Then if I can handle another woman, I'll continue talking to all the women I've got the attention of recently. When I'm act…
/r/seduction14/09/19 11:32 AM
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That's how most of us see things once we finally "have what we want". When it comes to women, none of us really knew what we are asking for until we get it and then we're like, "Woah, ladies. Can I breathe? Just one fucking second?!" I get burnt out every couple years, I've been doing this for like 9 years now. Two women is about all I can handle. I'd love to have three low maintenance women in my life, but that's asking a lot apparently.
/r/seduction13/09/19 09:43 PM
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Bro, 8 girls in 9 months? I'm not even active currently and I've spoken to more girls than that this month. ROOKIE NUMBERS, WE GOTTA PUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP!
/r/seduction13/09/19 07:01 PM
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This. Never tell a girl why she shouldn’t fuck you. Nah, I tell girls all the reasons why they should definitely not fuck me. It works great for me, don't see why it wouldn't work for others. Girls can tell I don't need anyone's approval for anything I do. They know that all the goods things I do are then because I choose regularly to be this good and sexy thing, despite all the "undesirable qualities" I might tell them all about. I don't recommend everyone trying this out, because it needs to c…
/r/seduction13/09/19 12:26 PM
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Cool, bro, but I've been the ugly guy that doesn't get signals. I've worked on becoming the guy I am now and I do just fine. The difference is night and day, but it's definitely possible to go from ugly to attractive to experience it. You don't have to take my word for it, just do it, pussy.
/r/seduction12/09/19 10:19 PM
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Next time you see a cutie, think about the right things. In the future, you picture yourself a guy that walks up to a cutie and chats with her. Well, that's who you are then. You've decided it, you've imagined it as you, so keep telling yourself that's who you are. When you see a cutie, you need to believe yourself, that's it. You don't need to think about anything else. When you doubt something, it stands out like a sore thumb. Are you in the dark near trees and bushes? Is that a bush or a face…
/r/seduction12/09/19 11:55 AM
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And the biggest difference between a successful male and an unsuccessful male is the amount of times they capitalize on opportunity. Take identical twins, separate them at birth and teach one of them all about IOIs. Teach nothing to the other. One of them is going to be Don Juan at puberty, the other is going to still be a virgin for a few more years to a decade. The obvious IOIs may be obvious and we all might wish they were coming from a particular woman or more women, but recognizing all the …
/r/seduction12/09/19 11:39 AM
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There are women who post here, but the content for women needs to be produced by women. We haven't had a large enough portion of our community become women, yet. The women around here typically just give feminine perspective and seem to try and help the collective male goal of seduction. I would love to see more women posters, contributors of content, etc. A year or two back there was a video posted of a girl learning cold approach. Super interesting to see men react to her trying to approach. T…
/r/seduction10/09/19 10:48 AM
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Should I act like a woman's body is so incredibly hot that I can't control myself and my actions, going so far as to leer in public? No, I don't think I should. That behavior seems simple to me and it isn't classy. It ain't suave either. I want to be perceived a certain way, such that I'm only going to select behaviors that I'm comfortable displaying, so that I get the results for which I'm looking. Which is regarding my appearance to the world and the narrative that I want to see take place in …
/r/seduction02/09/19 01:38 PM
2

Bro, attractive people attract other people. Gay men find me attractive, should I go out of my way to avoid being attractive to gay men? What about women that aren't attractive to me, who find me attractive? Should I try to be less attractive to women? But then I'll lose out on my actual target audience, attractive women. So what do I do? Not a damn thing but be my sexy ass. Why should you care that women end up finding you attractive? All you have to do is not fuck them. Easy.
/r/seduction31/08/19 04:45 PM
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A couple things: Women do become visually excited, just like men. You're talking about old science. Arousal is a moot point to mine and irrelevant. My point needs no distinction between arousal and attraction. Attractive is the correct word for my point. You are making a separate point. Regarding your point, a man that arouses a woman is also typically attractive to that woman, so I think arguing semantics doesn't support your point very well, because it can easily be poked with holes, using the…
/r/seduction28/08/19 05:55 PM
1

That wouldn't make sense.
/r/seduction28/08/19 05:24 PM
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There's a lopsided opinion and bias in your way of thinking, based on your insecurities. It is not reality, it is insecurity making you deluded into believing it's real.
/r/seduction28/08/19 12:12 PM
2

The qualities of "Not so nice guy" and "attractive guy" overlap. Just like the qualities of a "Nice guy" and "attractive guy" can overlap. The thing of note isn't that the girl is attached to bad dudes. What's noteworthy is what makes those dudes attractive.
/r/seduction28/08/19 12:02 PM
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You've got life all fucked up.
/r/seduction28/08/19 11:52 AM
3

"Who you gonna please with that thing?!" "Me, everytime!"
/r/seduction27/08/19 07:17 PM
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It's a confusing thing. I make constant cracks about how tiny my dick is and it just makes women think about my dick. They get curious, or think I'm confidently lying. It becomes a point where they want to know if I'm lying or telling the truth, though my cocky attitude suggests they should know. I'm completely fine with some woman thinking I have a small dick, because there's only one way they get to find out.
/r/seduction27/08/19 11:40 AM
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You forgot a major point: you have to touch the girl eventually.
/r/seduction14/08/19 11:47 AM
1

Okay, dude. You win the internet argument, have a good one!
/r/seduction12/08/19 10:33 AM
1

You said I've got to admit that I like them, I said no I don't. I did not say that I don't like them, which was the context of "You can even ask a girl out without liking them yet" following immediately my first point. It would be redundant to say that again, and I didn't. So, you just attacked a straw man.
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:46 AM
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No, you don't? You can even ask a girl out without liking them yet. Crazy, right....? That's why you ask them out, to see if you like them.
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:40 AM
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This is really bad advice. There's absolutely no reason to be discussing feelings with this girl. They've never "properly talked" and that makes them acquaintances at best. You don't discuss feelings with acquaintances if you're a grounded person. You treat them with a respectful emotional distance and show through your actions that you're interested in them. Talking about feelings is making false promises (or may even be interpreted as a threat) about a physical future between you and her. Rath…
/r/seduction11/08/19 02:40 PM
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You're thinking too much about it. Just keep chatting her up whenever she chats you up. Or don't, whatever, but when you can see her you just see if she wants to do something with you some time. Then you start touching her occasionally, then you kiss her eventually. You don't need to talk about anything relating to what you are or that you're going on an official date. You just relax and take one step at a time without thinking too much about it. It might work out, it might not, but just enjoy t…
/r/seduction11/08/19 02:26 PM
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It is really tied up to my original escalation mistake I think, though. Oh man. You know what she felt? Rejection. You did everything right to kiss, bang, whatever and she went right with you and then you didn't kiss her or bang her. How's that make her feel, you think? Then you kept teasing her after rejecting her. And you did those acts of behavior because you felt what? Why did you physically and emotionally reject her? Think about it, so that next time you don't do that to yourself or a girl…
/r/seduction06/08/19 01:05 AM
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Women help us constantly along the way and 99% of us are blind to it. When you become successful with women, it's because you start to learn the language they speak. Anything said by a girl in the beginnings of a relationship are typically openings left for you. "So, any fun plans this weekend?" That means ask her to do something. "I'm soooo tired" when she's not tired? Means invite me to someplace private. "Just so you know! I don't kiss on the first date!" She's thinking about kissing you. Or …
/r/seduction05/08/19 11:06 AM
1

I'm sorry, I haven't read any books on that topic to recommend.
/r/seduction03/08/19 06:08 PM
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Yeah, my thoughts as well. An easy example to consider which counters a lot of this post is musicians. There are musicians with charisma and without. One guy, no one is paying attention to and the next guy every other person has stopped what they're doing to see his performance. The skill doesn't even matter, you could have a classically trained musician that's a total bore to watch. Then dude with only 5 strings on his guitar from Louisiana rocks your socks off. Charisma isn't easily boiled dow…
/r/seduction03/08/19 11:56 AM
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Sounds to me like you just don't really want to do things their way. A lot of "not caring" is more so about focusing on caring about the right things. You don't have to be an idiot when you approach women, but if you desire the ability to approach women, then find your way of approaching them. Here's a personal example. I don't like going direct with women. I don't start interactions by telling them they're cute or that I like something about them. I never give away a particular power that I hol…
/r/seduction02/08/19 12:04 PM
1

I stopped reading when you told me what I was saying when I never said that thing. I'm no longer interested in your conversation.
/r/seduction01/08/19 08:47 PM
1

Ok, so confidence still matters and you're telling me that I'm right and you're disagreeing with a few minor points. Thank you for the proof and support of my argument? Weird, dude.
/r/seduction01/08/19 05:07 PM
2

Confidence leaves a mark on every surface you have to show the world. A confident person has no need to harm another person emotionally or physically, because they have little insecurity baggage. Insecurity causes us to try and protect ourselves, either physically or emotionally. We are insecure, we don't want to be hurt. When we see insecurity in others, it's a warning sign. We see a scared animal. We see something that's potentially dangerous. When we are given a choice between a calm confiden…
/r/seduction01/08/19 11:19 AM
1

M'loggins. fedoras tip
/r/seduction01/08/19 10:59 AM
4

Bro, you just described the female version of what not to do. You're asking how to treat a person that does that? You walk away, like a healthy human being should do. If your chosen partner needs communication daily that you don't like to provide, then why choose them? That's on top of the fact that they're a needy person and it's unattractive on all sexes.
/r/seduction28/07/19 08:23 PM
2

Well, I did read your reply earlier and theirs, so here we are with my reply now. I never said to force it, and there's nothing to do with those women you've listed, there's no advice to give except "If you're feeling the moment and you want to touch, go ahead and see what happens." She's either got matching bra and panties, or she didn't shave her legs that night. If she chose to go out with you without shaving her legs, well...maybe she wants a free meal. I'd still advise to try and touch if t…
/r/seduction24/07/19 08:57 PM
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It's all on you. You have to be comfortable reaching out and touching someone. She's with you on a date, she's already wearing matching panties and bra. She's already made a decision in her head that if you don't fuck up, she's gonna suck your dick and show off her pretty panties. "Oh, gosh, I wonder if she'll like it if I just put my arm around her?" then you try and you're thinking a bunch of stupid shit, makes you anxious, makes your heart race, makes you basically club her with a stiff arm t…
/r/seduction24/07/19 08:11 PM
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This is a broken path that we start down and end up trying that same path over and over through life. You're thinking too much about the interaction itself, not the goal oriented mindset that gets you to the end of it. Know what happens when I see a woman that I want to talk to? I just do it. It's a simple thought process to me, since I've considered the truth ahead of time, before I ever saw the woman. I know I want to and I don't need any extra reason or convincing or thinking about what ifs. …
/r/seduction23/07/19 11:43 AM
1

I did not say "Don't care about shit and spiral into depression".
/r/seduction23/07/19 10:37 AM
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That's the thing that stands out to me around here. This message just won't spread like it should. More interacting, more talking, more doing, that's how you get good at interacting, talking, and doing. You can tell who has and who hasn't. The people who have limited themselves in the number of people they've interacted with can't comprehend the limitless number of conversations the others have had. Some guys say they haven't flirted with even one woman. They come here and want to know exactly h…
/r/seduction23/07/19 02:12 AM
1

The answer is by not giving a fuck.
/r/seduction22/07/19 11:22 PM
1

Mmmm, people say these things and I have a hard time believing that they're secure and confident individuals having many interactions with others daily. Still I'm treated like a creep exclusively based on looks Every girl you approach actually attacks your looks, every time? You hear negative feedback enough that you know you're just an ugly dude? Where'd you get the idea that the things you listed are ugly? The thing that is you. It's said enough times that you know for sure you're treated like…
/r/seduction22/07/19 11:16 AM
1

I'm experienced in that and just fine with it. I've had women say they thought I was gay, too. They lied, but they still said it.
/r/seduction20/07/19 04:47 PM
0

Well, sure, I'm not going to dispute that bit. I know that I'm drop dead gorgeous to some women and a hard pass to others.
/r/seduction20/07/19 02:23 PM
0

the guy at the bar wouldn't have had a shot if she didn't think he was handsome. And that's not disputed by what I said. You're not attacking my argument, because that's not it. That is a straw man. People think they're running game but they're just being normal with a girl who thinks he's hot lol This isn't disputed entirely, but one small point. Some men don't know how to just "be normal" and they have to learn. It does feel like running game, until it becomes your normal. I was a really fat, …
/r/seduction20/07/19 02:15 PM
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Dressing like a slob, smelling like shit, having a shit haircut with no hairstyle, not having clothes and shoes that match, etc. All of that is ugly and not all of that is taken into account by the majority of dudes here. "Durrr my face is ugly to me because I think girls don't like me, that means my face is ugly"
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:51 PM
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It hurts to read this message a hundred different ways and different times in this sub and understand it, but know that other guys reading it can't possibly understand it. You've worded everything beautifully and it's simple, it's elegant. When you feel what you're saying in interactions with women, it feels...powerful. You have a knowledge, a little secret, a gift from the woman. The thing is that you absolutely have to see it for yourself to get it. The only thing that holds that back is fear.…
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:45 PM
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It's embasrrasing and makes our sub look retarded lol. They care about looks at least as much as we do Seeing comments like this is what makes this sub look retarded. The childish nature of your post and others like it make it look retarded. The lack of social development of the general population in the sub is what makes it look retarded, because in comparison to their peers, they are by definition retarded in growth. Your post is retarded in its understanding of attraction and what it's like t…
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:27 PM
1

No worries, it wasn't worth a reply, I gave something for nothing and if it's worth nothing, then I've lost nothing. So it was easily forgotten.
/r/seduction17/07/19 03:52 AM
1

The part of you that dismisses all women's thoughts about you, by overriding their opinions with your own. You need therapy to gain a more realistic view of the world. You keep saying no woman has ever shown you interest. You do not know what interest from women looks like, not because you've not seen it a single time, but because you haven't acknowledged it a single time. That's a delusion that you need to work on. Women, as a whole, are not blatant about their attractions. They are subtle and …
/r/seduction15/07/19 01:33 PM
1

Pardon me for not trusting in your ability to read IOIs, but you're just blinded by your own opinion. You wouldn't know an IOI if it pulled your dick out and sucked it. You'd tell me she didn't find you attractive and that she was just doing it because she felt so sorry for how ugly you are! I think your routine is a good thing to get into shape, but you need therapy. You are seriously deluded.
/r/seduction15/07/19 11:21 AM
1

So you're a mind reader?
/r/seduction15/07/19 10:26 AM
1

First off, haven't dated thousands, I've spoken to thousands. You can whittle that down to subsets. Talked/met thousands. Flirted with at least a thousand. Intimate connections with hundreds. "Dated" under a hundred, but God damn dating is tedious, so hard to keep track. Actual long-term relationships? Few. You become picky and classify women quickly. What do you think it looks like when a woman is attracted to you? You keep saying, over and fucking over again, that it hasn't ever happened. You'…
/r/seduction15/07/19 03:26 AM
1

Well, you talk about women's (un)attraction to you like you can read minds. Not to toot my own horn, but I'm petty damn good at telling when women are attracted to me or unattracted to me. And even though I'm pretty good, I can only read something between 25-50% of women! The rest are a total mystery. So how does this guy that has never touched a girl develop a better sense of these things tha I do? The answer is he doesn't. He's deluded by low self esteem and just "knows he's right". I learned …
/r/seduction14/07/19 10:40 PM
6

Saying anything sexual is how to change the vibe. Last night a girl told me she just got a new bicycle, she was super excited. I got all serious and I said, "You have to be careful..." She says, "Oh yeah, I bought a helmet and everything!" I said, "No, I heard that women can lose their virginity from riding a bicycle....just take it easy when you break it in." I know she's not a virgin, she knows she's not a virgin. Zero reason for me to say that stupid shit, except I knew it would make her laug…
/r/seduction14/07/19 06:42 PM
1

Well so far I've never had a woman consider me attractive, that's the reason I say it hasn't happened before because it honestly never has. I've never met a woman who considered me good looking or attractive, etc. You read minds?
/r/seduction14/07/19 06:12 PM
1

What exactly do you think has to happen for a woman to consider you attractive? What sign are you waiting for? One to literally say it to your face? "Hi, I think you're hot and we should go on a date, then touch, then kiss." You've never had that happen, so you're unattractive to all women? You sound like a broken record. You're saying the same things you did months ago. That's not improvement. Stop saying that garbage, it's delusional.
/r/seduction14/07/19 03:08 PM
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I know your story already, I remember you. I also remember that you don't try. You're waiting around for a woman to like you, without putting yourself around women. You're waiting for a woman to talk to you, so that you can get better at talking to women. You're working on yourself in hopes that you can attract a woman without having to take any risk to harm your ego. You need to lose the ego, because it's holding you back. I'm successful with women because I am bold. I'm not afraid to talk to t…
/r/seduction14/07/19 01:59 PM
6

You need to imagine what the kind of guy is like that keeps women's attention. How's she feel about the guy? What mood is there between the two of them that makes her want more and more? Girls want feels. They want excitement. They want a challenge. They want sexy and hot. They want intimacy. They want to feel desired and they want to express their desire. They want all that stuff wrapped up in a person they can chase, they want a prize that they can win. And you can replace the word girls with …
/r/seduction14/07/19 01:36 PM
1

Meh, we're old enough that the melting away should start happening anyways. Can't be young and dumb forever.
/r/seduction14/07/19 12:36 PM
9

It's good that you're learning, keep it up.
/r/seduction14/07/19 11:42 AM
4

There are times when I'm daydreaming, thinking about the women I've been with and there's this disbelief. I can't believe these things happened (and happen) to me. I know that when I'm old, I'm going to look back on it and feel the same things. It's not even just one woman "out of my league". What's mind blowing and so hard to get over is that not just one woman, but many women will choose to be with me. Even if I'm with other women, they still want to be around me, and so they don't care. Layin…
/r/seduction14/07/19 11:34 AM
2

You don't even need to hire one, just look for ones starting out, or practicing, or putting together a portfolio. There's plenty of photographers out there that need people willing to get their picture taken.
/r/seduction13/07/19 12:57 PM
8

The idea for the mainstream is that we are practicing manipulation tactics targeting others (particularly women, so we're seem as predators). Our reality is that we are practicing self-help, self-love, self-respect, self-development and we're doing it to better our lives. On this journey, most of us become better people and learn to treat others better because of it. We learn skills that make social interactions smoother and we practice them to become better. Some of us are bad people, some of u…
/r/seduction11/07/19 12:24 PM
1

Don't let your past and your feelings dictate your behaviors. Otherwise, perhaps you'll pass the beatings on to someone else someday. We all feel a lot of things, some of us don't let those feelings dictate our actions, some of us do. Look someone in the eyes, when you feel all fucked up about it, look anyways. The thing stopping you is you, not your past and not your feelings and not your father. This is your life and you have my permission to look into anyone's eyes. You need your own permissi…
/r/seduction09/07/19 09:08 PM
1

And I bet you still gaze longingly into a guy's eyes if he's focused on you and you're both in close conversation, because you are distracted at that time. Unless you're inexperienced with men altogether, then perhaps you don't make eye contact yet because you haven't had that intimate of a connection form?
/r/seduction09/07/19 05:51 PM
2

Why? Because you can't look people in the eyes? It's uncomfortable? That makes you a broken human? For having the same feelings as billions of other humans? You're not broken or abnormal, you're average. You can start making eye contact with every single person you see, you just choose to not. You know logically what others like though, so some day...maybe you'll start looking everyone in the eyes and attempting to change your behaviors. You can't change your feelings, but you can change your be…
/r/seduction09/07/19 05:47 PM
1

Why would you even think this is necessary information unless she asked? Quit thinking about it, dummy. Enjoy your relationship.
/r/seduction09/07/19 01:01 AM
2

See, I think I'm an ugly fuck and borderline caveman looking. Others have told me enough times that I'm a handsome guy though. So I hold everyone's opinions at once. They have nothing stopping them from feeling the way they do about me, so it's something I just trust. I trust that I'm a handsome devil and feel fine that I think I look like a caveman. It's surprising to me how many women find me attractive, but I like it, so I don't shit on myself about my looks other than acknowledging my opinio…
/r/seduction07/07/19 12:57 PM
3

I would just like to point out that insecurities lead to that behavior, too. Instantly demonizing the other party, or penalizing them for perceived slights is a defense mechanism for their ego.
/r/seduction01/07/19 10:38 AM
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Decent advice that needs a caveat, because the advice is being given to men with many insecurities. Insecurities make it difficult to read signals. Sometimes your insecurity leads you to make a mistake and misinterpret interest for disinterest. Don't be a doormat for women, but don't leap to conclusions about things either.
/r/seduction30/06/19 08:32 PM
1

Welp, guess I can close the thread.
/r/seduction30/06/19 02:14 PM
1

I don't believe that RedPillers like me much. I think they've brigaded some posts I've made, so yeah, my philosophies attempt to be helpful, targeted at the audience I believe I have, and as honest as I can make them. I don't like the unnecessary fluffed up machismo around here either. It's hyperbolic and not conducive to a learning, sharing, growing culture and environment for fuckin awesome people. And that's what I think is my ideal environment for seduction, so that's the change I try to be …
/r/seduction30/06/19 01:48 PM
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Girl's profile says: Shirtless selfies = instant no from me, sorry not sorry! Translation: Every guy I let into my vagina had shirtless selfies, those jerks! Guess what, she still bangin dudes with no shirts on.
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:34 PM
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Man, sure wish it was easier than it is to pass on this message, but it's just a lesson every guy has to go through. Some figure it out early, some figure it out late, and some never figure it out. The magic trick to girls, the one simple hack to "getting the girl" is this: Touch the ones that like you and which you like back. It's honestly that simple when you boil it down. You can add on layers that complicate it, like insecurity and doubt, but the truth is that you can always go back to that …
/r/seduction29/06/19 01:26 PM
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Which is strange, because the majority of mentor/PUA/guru messages are to get men to understand they need to approach women. Everything else that's talked about is for later, when you are able to approach and talk to women. Every guy thinks, "Well, I have to learn how to talk to women first! Then I'll approach!" No, you learn how to approach, so that you can learn how to talk to women. It's impossible to do without doing. You all must do and instead you do not and for some ridiculous reason, tha…
/r/seduction25/06/19 11:36 AM
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Thank you for all your help.
/r/seduction23/06/19 11:24 PM
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I could have the smallest dick at a nude get together and be totally fine with it. My big dick energy overcomes the smallest obstacles.
/r/seduction23/06/19 06:03 PM
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Big dick energy.
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:30 PM
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Interact using everything but your words. You have eyes, you have a smile, a grin, eyebrows, hands, feet, hips, a brain to move them all and a desire to communicate. So just do it. You might even find that you can "be a different person" when you remove your words from the interaction. I took American Sign Language in college as my foreign language. Learned a lot about non-manual signals (eyes, body language). One thing that I've always found interesting is how differently I express myself when …
/r/seduction22/06/19 03:21 PM
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My switch is on or off, it doesn't scale 1-10. An unattractive woman is just as attractive as a gay man to me, I don't think anything at all about them, I just don't see them. If a girl's attractive to me, then not much stops me from pursuing her, if even subconsciously. I can't really help it in the moment.
/r/seduction21/06/19 05:09 PM
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No silly, be attractive.
/r/seduction20/06/19 08:12 PM
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Girls don't care about your age if they're attracted to you. They don't care about shit if they're attracted to you. They will keep being attracted to you if you've got your shit together though. Hair, clothes, car, job, body, social skills, humor, an easy smile. I think dating as an older dude is just way better than the garbage I went through when I was younger. Anyway, 18-21yo girls regularly hit on me. I'm 36 and I smile a lot. I'm married and date women with my wife, have done for about 8 y…
/r/seduction13/06/19 10:34 PM
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No offense, but it sounds like you're speaking about something which you don't have experience. I have been unattractive physically and I've become attractive physically. Sure, I got more attention once I was attractive, but I didn't succeed with women. Women have done some rather blatant things to me and I've still failed with them. Even if you're attractive, you don't just wake up with the knowledge of how to interact. It has to be learned. Furthermore, I was an ugly fat fuck for ten years of …
/r/seduction13/06/19 12:24 PM
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If girls don't catch feelings for me, then I'm not the man that deserves any woman's feelings. If girls fall for me, then I've done my end of the bargain by being attractive enough and wholesome which to gain that love. My body is mine though. I don't owe her a kiss or a touch, simply because I was lovable. Women don't owe me that either. I would hope they are lovable regardless. So from a lover's perspective, I can't really see your point being anything but moot.
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:20 PM
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Building a woman's desire for you is just like growing a plant. You have to have a seed, you have to bury it, then you have to water it and give it some sunlight. The seed you're planting is the two of you being physically intimate. You can do that a million ways, but you just have to make a hint about it. You can even hint about it by saying, "We are definitely not having sex tonight, just so you know." you've said outright that you aren't going to, but now she's thinking about you as a sexual …
/r/seduction11/06/19 12:15 PM
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I tend to just not, but the one time I did turned out way better than I thought it would. She was lifting dangerously and I just asked if I could give her a tiny bit of advice. She was instantly welcoming to the interaction. Anyway, that led to a year long 3 way relationship. Lol I will not approach another woman in a gym, regardless of that "success". I just don't think it's the right place.
/r/seduction09/06/19 03:59 PM
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Feel "Too" empathetic? Not really. I just feel empathetic. There's two sides to the coin, on one side, sometimes I hurt women's feelings. On the other side, they're still attracted to me and still want me. I am not perfect. I don't want the things I say to hurt someone, I just know it'll happen. Should I curb myself? I only try when a girl announces that she feels a certain way about it. There's a particular girl I'm thinking of and she asked me outright why I'm so mean to her. We discussed it, …
/r/seduction09/06/19 03:28 PM
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Please stop and go away.
/r/seduction09/06/19 02:51 PM
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Not sure if it's exactly what you're describing, but I often experience dating fatigue. I don't really question it or get upset about it, I just acknowledge it and take a break. Things start to get annoying? Well, why the fuck am I doing it then? So, I just stop until I'm ready again.
/r/seduction09/06/19 02:45 PM
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You don't find power, you make power, but you definitely should try to recognize from where it comes. I disagree with some of yours, but that's fine, it's probably where you feel you get power. The extra point and reason I wanted to add to the post is that it's good to recognize what power you can always hold over yourself, but also the power you can hold over others. Recognize what things you can do internally to make you powerful and recognize what things you can do externally that makes you p…
/r/seduction07/06/19 11:48 AM
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Eye contact is reaching out and touching another person emotionally and communicating with your eyes. Sometimes we see a person and they give us a sensation that we should not look at them. Perhaps they're intimidating, perhaps they're begging for change, perhaps they look afraid of us. Either way, we don't want any part of the person's life, because we're worried about something. They might hurt us, they might cheat us out of money, or they might scream and run away if we talk to them! So, we d…
/r/seduction30/05/19 12:16 PM
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I'm honestly trying to defend this so much because there's only one woman that I have found who I respect more than any other and that's because I've been with her for over 15 years. She is lovely, she is sweet, she's caring, and kind. She loves me so hard and defends me vehemently. She's perfect for me and you know what, this bitch still fuckin shit tests me bro. Dude, she'll do it in public, she'll do it in front of her friends, she'll do it anywhere. I don't know why, she doesn't know why. It…
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:31 AM
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That's my point, people can communicate like adults and still use language differently than you. It may come across as foreign, but also offensive to your current sensibilities. For example: Southern hospitality is something most people have heard of enough to not be shocked when they experience it for their first time. Another southern thing you can expect side by side with the hospitality is a dose of getting your chain pulled, or your leg pulled. Some people may come from a region, or nuclear…
/r/seduction24/05/19 03:43 PM
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Honestly, it isn't about hanging out with a certain kind of person. I've met very bad women that act like angels and I've met saints that act like they're scum. You just can't base your emotions on the behavior alone, because sometimes you're just not used to a certain kind of person. You might not speak their "social language". This is why you base your behaviors on yourself. You create behaviors that work in most social scenarios, whether the person you're face to face with at the time is acti…
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:09 PM
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Yea, basically. Here's the theory behind it and what's it's attached to, because those are just the behaviors you exhibit. You want to become a guy that has his own world, an inviting and welcoming world. You don't let everyone else change your world Willy nilly, you're in control of it. At the center of your world is a smooth dude with a positive attitude. An attractive man isn't easily controlled by others, not by men and not by women. He works well with others, but he lets no one tread on him…
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:41 AM
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“Are you honestly wearing that shirt to dinner?” Why, were we both going topless? Let's do it. “Didn’t you hang out with your friends/last/ weekend?” I'm...I'm...loved, Amy. They want to be around me, you want to be around me. None of this should surprise you anymore. “I expected you to be taller based on your photos from Tinder” That's because I only pose next to midgets. Know your strengths, know your weaknesses!
/r/seduction23/05/19 01:26 AM
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The analogy works so perfectly, I use it a lot as well. Even for explaining push/pull. You toss a string at a cat and it'll look at it, be bored, then walk away. If you don't let go of the string, then now the cat wants to play.
/r/seduction20/05/19 02:43 PM
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You never thought to smile during interactions? You're welcome.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:53 PM
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The moment it comes up you just say, "Uh, yes? I tried to kiss her, she's attractive and she came over to my apartment and laid on my bed. I read the room wrong, it happens. She'll find a guy she likes and that's fine. If a girl ends up on my bed, I try kissing her, that's just me!" Then you smile unapologetically and all power remains in your hands. And for everything else in your life you can use the exact same format. People only have power over you that you give them. They will also grasp at…
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:08 PM
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So when the majority of women put themselves alone with you, they're interested in you. Women do not try to be alone with guys that they don't like. So what are you supposed to do now? First thing you do is think to yourself, "She didn't come here to be friends and I don't want to be friends. I want to be lovers. I only meet potential lovers in private, not friends." That might not be true, perhaps you're alone with friends often, but you could change that. You could make it a rule that you try …
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:01 PM
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The only thing you need to say when someone compliments you is, "Haha, thanks!" and move right along like it never happened. Just like hot girls do.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:00 AM
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The only thing you need to say when someone compliments you is, "Haha, thanks!" and move right along like it never happened. Just like hot girls do.
/r/seduction18/05/19 02:59 AM
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The only thing necessary when someone compliments you is, "Haha, thanks!" and move right along like it never existed.
/r/seduction18/05/19 02:57 AM
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Strangers are the same way. There are those same men he described. I treat the chill dudes as a benefit, they help increase all of our enjoyment levels. I also treat those petty fuckwits as a benefit, too. Jealous/envious/covetous behavior is apparent and girls see it, too. The moment a guy treats me as "competition" then he's just decided to lose at something. If he's not competing, then their won't be any losers.
/r/seduction14/05/19 11:02 AM
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Mmm, baby....don't stop. Don't leave me, just stay right on my dick. No need to be a tease.
/r/seduction12/05/19 04:40 PM
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And you don't sound like anything I care about at all. Looks like my dick gets something, because you're right on it. Keep going and be a good girl, a few more and I might....just...get there.
/r/seduction12/05/19 04:08 PM
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So, just to point out they're flawed on a bit of their logic, but it's part of a good message. It's true that initially seduction is a crass and manipulative, fake persona. You have to learn lessons along the way that make you realize what's actually seductive. Which is being warm, likable, and comfortable to those you're around. Then you create a natural charisma. So that's not to say you're no longer aware of your seduction, nor that you're no longer trying to be, or remain seductive. It's jus…
/r/seduction12/05/19 01:19 PM
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In my experience, you want the attention, so you don't get it. The attitude I take around other men is that I don't give a flying fuck if they succeed. If they do, hell yeah, good for you, bud. I'm not scrabbling for a girl's affection, I'm having a good time, I'm being amused. I'm amused at my wingmen trying so hard. I'm amused at the antics of the women. I'm amused at all the little social nuances going on. I'm putting in my clever or flirty shit when it presents itself and I'm receiving the a…
/r/seduction12/05/19 12:55 PM
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I'm the more altruistic, she's the more selfish. We both know it, we both discuss it, we think it's why we work so well. I'm not the greedy one, I'm the indulgent one. This ends up with me getting what I want when I want it, because I want so little. So the things I desire carry a lot of weight. Not only with my wife, but other women. I don't ask for anything, I provide and I receive the benefits. Women always ask what I want.
/r/seduction10/05/19 02:24 AM
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Them's the rules and rules are such a burden, but I'll live.
/r/seduction10/05/19 02:07 AM
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I do not identify as Poly, but by definition I am. Does your wife know you date other women? I would hope so, she's slept with and dated every one of them.
/r/seduction10/05/19 01:58 AM
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You know, I'm betting you've read about "maintaining your state" around here. Love falls under that category, dude. You maintain your individual state, regardless of others. You love whoever you want, whenever you want and you're fine with that. Oneitis is this stupid state you get into, where this new woman has made you think that you can't love any other person but her. She's all you think about, so who cares about other girls? This girl isn't responding! And she's the one I want! That's not i…
/r/seduction10/05/19 12:14 AM
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I don't detach myself at all. I fall in love as fast as I can and fuck it. Sex is fine, sex is fun, but sex without intense feelings is like food without flavor. So does that mean I get hurt a lot? Not anymore than everybody else that are trying to not love people. When it's time to say bye, you just say bye. You love again somewhere else. I am still in love with every girl I've ever loved, even the total shitheads. I will not ever speak to some of them again, but some will probably be in my lif…
/r/seduction10/05/19 12:00 AM
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I've lived East coast to West Coast and all over the south, I've lived in Milwaukee 15 years. I've been to bad neighborhoods my entire life and the behavior never changes and the things you do to stay safe never changes. No, you don't stare people down, but eye contact instantly provoking a murder? Bullshit. Know what's way worse? Never looking up, looking skittish and scared, or worse still, like you're a hard ass with shit to prove. You walk down the street with zero fucks given, look at whate…
/r/seduction09/05/19 12:22 AM
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Yeah? Perhaps eye contact wouldn't be used in that context then? The context you're describing isn't what she's described here and if she's meant what you've said, then that should've been said, because the difference between the two is immense. One of those things involves a woman repeatedly looking at your eyes and you looking at her eyes, that's reciprocation. The other thing involved a woman avoiding eye contact and knowing that a man is still leering. I absolutely should not need to outline…
/r/seduction08/05/19 11:41 PM
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I look like a dick if I'm not smiling, or people ask me why I'm pissed, etc. Well, they used to, but now they only do it if I'm actually angry. I started "priming my face" to smile years ago. If I'm in public, then I'm trying to think about positive things, happy things, sexy things, fun things. I focus on my eye muscles and make sure they're relaxed. I focus on my jaw and relax it a bit so my teeth aren't clenched. I raise my eyebrows a bit and my ears perk. Then I just do my day with that smil…
/r/seduction08/05/19 08:02 PM
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when he prolongs eye contact an inappropriately long time. Takes two to tango, lady.
/r/seduction08/05/19 07:54 PM
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What's up with people's obsession with other dude's masturbation frequency? It's the most witchdoctory shit ever to bring up. If I'm living with a woman everyday and dating another woman or two, I'm still masturbating regularly. Never gonna stop and I ooze charisma everywhere I go. If not stroking it works for you, neat, but get outta here with that advice for others lol
/r/seduction05/05/19 10:21 PM
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Being attractive isn't relative to only the environment. I'm just as attractive in a club as I am in an online dating profile or coffee shop or the gym or anywhere I may meet a woman. "Picking up" a girl isn't about a one night stand, it's not about finding a wife, it's not about finding a niche that you're most attractive in. It's about being an attractive and seductive person. As far as my taste in women goes, no I couldn't tell you what I will be attracted to and I do know based on past exper…
/r/seduction04/05/19 05:43 PM
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It's sad that you think so little of yourself that you see his list as unattainable qualities. It's sad that you don't see his list as a bare minimum for who you want to be yourself, on top of that. It's even more sad that you would put others lower and not try to help them see that they are capable of way better than they believe themselves. That list is full of positivity and you have no reason to knock it, except for personal beliefs about yourself. You can change, you can be better, you can …
/r/seduction04/05/19 04:00 PM
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You are correct, you wouldn't give the right information. Women are often not able to see what attracts them to men initially. They can say why they like the guy now and a lot of times men are way different in the relationship than they are before they're in it. That's what makes listening to women's interest in men difficult to pick apart for good advice. Women will often describe men they've had shitty relationships with and tell you to do the opposite of what that guy did, because it would fe…
/r/seduction04/05/19 03:49 PM
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Aight, put yourself around more women.
/r/seduction30/04/19 11:53 PM
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It's not that I don't see them it's that I've never experienced anyone sending "subtle signals". This is why you sound delusional. You haven't experienced them, yet somehow you see them? Hey, maybe you don't see them after all?
/r/seduction30/04/19 10:36 AM
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How do you think this all works with girls? You think they are going to come find you and seduce you? Put all the moves on you? And since they aren't doing that, then you're not attractive to them? Women send subtle signals. Men respond to them or do not, through choice or ignorance. If you don't see the signals, then you better start chatting with random women and seeing if you can change what you're doing to be the platonic guy that believes he's magically unfuckable.
/r/seduction30/04/19 12:59 AM
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You have tried to kiss someone? How'd the rejection go? If you asked a woman, "Hey I was thinking we could be boyfriend girlfriend?" then yeah, that's a rejection, but has nothing to do with looks. That's not things work. You see pretty girl, you put the two of you together somewhere, you get her to have fun, then you try to kiss her without ever mentioning that you like her. She will either kiss you back or not and then you keep doing that same dance with every girl. You're not ugly, you're ine…
/r/seduction29/04/19 07:04 PM
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You have never been rejected because you are afraid to put yourself out there. You don't actually believe you're ugly, you're just afraid to find out.
/r/seduction29/04/19 11:33 AM
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Shy and thinking too much, you have to get them out of their head and more comfortable. Once you do, eyes are magnetic.
/r/seduction28/04/19 03:48 PM
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Comfort in expressing yourself and then experience expressing yourself afterwards as well.
/r/seduction28/04/19 03:46 PM
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Without reading anything you've said the answer is: Yes and yes. Or "Probably, but interest doesn't matter if you didn't or won't find out yourself."
/r/seduction28/04/19 03:43 PM
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All you are is inexperienced and all that I am is experienced. There's very little differences besides that as far as women goes. I've been unattractive physically and emotionally and I have become attractive physically and emotionally. Now that I'm aware of my attractiveness, I can look back at all the times where I was actually attractive to women and didn't believe it. I took away the option for many women simply because I never believed I was attractive. It's like my eyes were only trained t…
/r/seduction28/04/19 03:13 PM
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Are they married? I don't respect relationships simply because they exist. I hardly respect most people's relationships at all. I look around and see people treat the person they're with like shit. Since I see so many bad relationships, I ain't about to change my personal behaviors for a fucked up world's opinion on what I should do morally. My personal behavior and responsibility is personal. It's about me. I treat women with respect and when we're in a relationship, then I follow the bounds of…
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:33 AM
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"Do you always tell bums to fuck off or ignore them? Bet you're the sucker that gives em a dollar, huh!" "You one of those chicks that take like 4 hours to get ready each day?" "Mmm, don't think we could ever get married. I only date bisexual girls...." "So you're a good kisser? Don't believe you. Honestly, what if the people you kissed were just amateurs, so they didn't know any better? They're just like 'wow Becky is such a good kisser'!" "Bet you drink like a cheerleader. Two wine coolers for…
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:15 AM
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-How far can she deep throat Why would I be picturing her with other guys? That's just weird.
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:05 AM
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Ya know, the title of the post, dude?
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:03 AM
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Yep, when you have 3-4 other girls constantly calling you to come over and bang, because you never have time for them. Then that girl you want right now comes along and you don't give a single fuck? That's when she'll want you.
/r/seduction27/04/19 06:19 PM
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Yeah, it's women that are interested in what you are doing. I haven't been to a club in a long time, but I would always dance with each set, just not engaged fully. I just dance to have fun, so it's not like I really want to talk. So, everything I do on the dance floor is part of the fun. The eyes, the connections you can make with dance partners, building attraction, then building the night from there. Each noncommittal interaction I have with women seems to drive the over all crowd of women in…
/r/seduction27/04/19 06:16 PM
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You are learning a valuable lesson right now that you will refuse to accept several more times in your life before you finally get it. That girl ain't the problem, the girl in the future ain't the problem. You're going to keep falling for the wrong girl forever. The problem is you, the problem is me, the problem is we are human. Recognize your mistakes quicker and move on quicker, that's all you can do. When the girl gets away, or when the girl needs to get the fuck away, then you need to let he…
/r/seduction27/04/19 06:03 PM
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Sitting across from you, you change your game to eye contact and word play to increase tension that you aren't physically. This makes physical time much easier, because by then you both want touch.
/r/seduction27/04/19 05:03 PM
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You keep saying no woman ever liked you, but that's statistically impossible. Please quit saying it, because it's something you don't have proof for. You have proof that you don't know which girls will kiss you or touch you, because they haven't. You do not have proof that random women don't want to and just never tell you. Women typically will never tell you. They hint. Hint all day long. I don't see hints, I see glaring beacons of advertisement that a girl wants me, because I look for them. I …
/r/seduction26/04/19 11:13 AM
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Yeah? How many women's opinions have you gotten? Women have shit taste in men, dude. They like us both, I'm just aware of it, you're not. I walk down the street, I know which ones don't like me. I know which definitely do. You haven't done anything with a woman, so you don't have any personal proof that you can be so you're just putzing along in life not knowing which girls you could've been with. Someday a girl is gonna say some shit about your looks that's going to make you look at her like sh…
/r/seduction26/04/19 01:48 AM
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I focused on making myself look at good as I possible can barring anything like plastic surgery or cosmetic surgery, etc. That's all I've done. I lost weight, started exercising, then I just kept adding grooming and style over the years, but also swagger matters. Swagger matters a whole lot. The way you look at women can be attractive to women. It's part of your "looks", too. So is your facial expression, not just the symmetry. I know to not look tense. I know to have an easy smile ready to go. …
/r/seduction26/04/19 01:22 AM
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If you want an omelette, you have to crack eggs. If you want girls romantically, you just have to speak to them romantically. I'd say it took me about two years to finally make good progress talking to women. I practiced everywhere. Every app that had women on it, no matter what. I'd try to seduce them with words. I practiced in person and talked to everyone. If girls? Just shamelessly flirted like a naughty fun boy. Hell, I'd even flirt with guys I met around girls and just charm everybody even…
/r/seduction26/04/19 12:57 AM
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You're describing the female equivalent to a douchebag to explain female confidence? Really, dude? You think douchebags are the only "confident" people? Edit: furthermore, you described the opposite to the kind of confident woman I described in my original post.
/r/seduction25/04/19 10:38 AM
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Fair. I'm meticulous about finding a good pair of running shoes that also look tolerable, though I do keep nicer shoes nice. Not for walking. Surprisingly, those shoes are ridiculously durable and still look basically like when I bought them. Well over a thousand miles into them.
/r/seduction25/04/19 03:37 AM
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You don't find confident women attractive? Submissive women can still be plenty confident in themselves enough and not display any assertion of dominance, no necessity. I think you might've misunderstood what I mean with confidence pertaining to women.
/r/seduction25/04/19 03:25 AM
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Nope! I told her the truth, meeting my girlfriend and my fiancee! I wasn't really interested in juggling more women at that time. I had a fiancee, a girlfriend, and a sorta of side chick I was seeing occasionally.
/r/seduction24/04/19 10:35 PM
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So, that's slightly different and something I wish I could study. I honestly believe that humans can subcommunicate elaborately through eye contact and probably many other physiological signs. Here's the incident that has made me want to explore the concept further. In college, I took a graduate level course to complete an internship program. Every week the professor required 1-3 students to prepare a lecture for the scholarly article for that week on research/experiments. This girl that usually…
/r/seduction24/04/19 08:32 PM
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Basically if you open a woman with the idea that you're capable of getting her, you'd be more "confident". I think it's much more simply that you are just attractive and that confidence is the reason. It's not that you're confident of getting her. I'm a confident man, but I don't think about "getting the girl". If anything, I just think things like, "I know that this woman is attracted to me." after I recognized the signs. My behavior doesn't change. I'm confident either way. Is it important bec…
/r/seduction24/04/19 08:15 PM
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Mentally, I become 100% stimulated by it instantly, so technically turned on. Would I pop wood? Naw. Eye contact anywhere is exciting, even just passing by women. Flirting it's a given, but I like it anywhere, for any duration of time. I can remember particular women forever, too. Girls I saw once, for just seconds. Girl in a track suit, thighs and ass of a sprinter. She walked like a panther. Her eyes stared into mine like she was a dangerous panther and she even turned her head to look directl…
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:55 PM
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You're not wrong. A lot of the content is created by males for males. The audience requires the authors to pander, but it is tiresome for many of us. There's a pretty vocal group here, and everyone seems to call out everyone for differences of opinions. There's quality and there's garbage. There's a decent balance in that regard, but I believe more content from women or aimed at women would be appreciated here. It is refreshing to see female perspectives, but I'd rather see those perspectives ba…
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:39 PM
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Honestly, it's just attractive on anyone. It's an attitude and demeanor and it's not so much about what you are saying. I can say things smoothly and with a nonchalance that an inexperienced guy couldn't even imagine saying, so if he somehow spit those words out, they just would never have the levity to pull it off like me. The thing I say meant little to me, so little that it failed to affect me at all. Yet the inexperienced guy stumbles or stutters or blushes. Hell, maybe even makes himself si…
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:24 PM
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Weird place to post this, but I mean it kinda fits. Anyway, I do agree, but also go to the gym. You should have good cardio, but you definitely need a strong skeletal-musculature structure. Balance is good. Back to walking, it's surprising how little most people walk. They also think rather short distances are exceptionally long if you've got to walk it. One mile away?! Fuck that! In my head, I'm thinking ten miles is no problem. I've put 1,500 miles on my feet this year and it's been a very ina…
/r/seduction24/04/19 02:25 PM
1

No, my fans are all free to have their own opinion about me. It would be silly for me to try and convince you to change your opinion about me. I'm not here for any part of that, just to share my experience with the inexperienced.
/r/seduction23/04/19 09:45 PM
1

You pay attention to my content enough to know who I am and I literally have no idea who you are or care about you. Ya know?
/r/seduction22/04/19 08:43 PM
1

I have a fan. I'm so surprised.
/r/seduction22/04/19 06:17 PM
1

It's been well over a year I've recognized your name, posting the same negative Nancy garbage. What progress have you made now? What steps have you taken?
/r/seduction22/04/19 10:36 AM
4

You don't have to think of what to say next after hi either. Anytime I blurt something out near women that I know are into me, looked at me, smiled at me, etc they respond. They could have their back turned to me, they'll respond. They're listening. They're paying attention. After that initial hint that women drop, "Hey, I like you." then all you've gotta do is say hi, or anything at all, then wait. They'll start blabbing, cuz they've been trying to think of what they'll do if the hot guy actual…
/r/seduction21/04/19 04:13 PM
2

You could stand to eat a bit more, just any additional calories on top of what you already eat should be protein. Obviously, keep going to the gym. You look fine though, aside from grooming. You need to start grooming more things. It doesn't matter where you start or what you pick, just start adding grooming rituals. I've spoken to you before, so I know you're self aware enough to know what you're lacking but you're asking so... Get a haircut and a hairstyle. This step alone will help you immens…
/r/seduction20/04/19 01:59 PM
90

You don't need permission to look at someone and they don't need permission to look at you. This means that it's entirely up to you to decide when you'll look away. Start paying attention to what makes you look away from someone first. Look at men, look at women, look at children. Look at everyone's eyes and start paying attention. You'll find that it's easier to look into some people's eyes and impossible to look at others. You just make it a game to "discover which people are which". Onwards t…
/r/seduction20/04/19 01:37 PM
1

Oh no, baby face is a blessing as we age. In 4 years I'll be 40 and I have 18yo girls flirt with me, it's like...oh you dummy, I'm so old.
/r/seduction19/04/19 06:38 PM
2

Boundaries, beliefs, and expectations. Not exactly in those orders, but I think that's how I convey my abundance. I don't shy away from setting boundaries or expectations and it lets women know that I'm willing to lose them over my personal beliefs about how I want to be treated. I believe that I'm attractive and I believe that I'm worth sharing life and I believe I have good life to share. I think of negative thoughts as beneath me, so I let women know that petty thoughts aren't entertained. Si…
/r/seduction19/04/19 06:33 PM
1

Shit, I didn't even mention the late bloomer part, but yeah I don't think I even ended puberty until 25-28. I sure as fuck couldn't grow a full beard until 28/29 years old! That weight loss and gym definitely filled out my muscles, but I think I was also finally feeling a good amount of testosterone finally! And yeah, man....36 now and I just expect attention wherever I go, because....people just give it. I agree with the spiritual aspect, I think people can tell that I'm comfortable in my skin …
/r/seduction19/04/19 06:19 PM
2

I've been cat called by dudes 3 times and by women maybe 8-10 times. First three catcalls were on March 17th 2012. I know because I lost weight that year and this was the first warm day, no jacket. First time in my adult life I didn't weigh over 300lbs. I was 200ish with clothes that fit. I had to walk 6 miles because buses were free and too crowded. Guy does the stereotypical catcall cartoon whistle as they drive by. Girl screams, "I want to have your fucking babies!" at a stop light. At anothe…
/r/seduction19/04/19 06:02 PM
4

There's different methods to accomplishing the same goals. It's true that guys can get laid the way you described, but it's not how I'm going to get laid. It's trashy. I like sexy, but I don't like raunchy. I'm not going to be anything but classy and I don't give a fuck if I could swing my dick and have girls catch it everytime. I've entertained the fantasy plenty of times, but when faced with the reality, I always get grossed out and turned off. I do escalate and I do allow women to escalate, b…
/r/seduction18/04/19 03:23 PM
3

Now I understand why you made a comment before about this all being about marriage. You don't have to believe me, but this is just a fact. A man that cannot get laid can become a man that has difficulty not having sex with a woman in the future. If you desire an ideal in your head that you become a man that can sleep with a new woman everyday of the week, that can be you. When you become that man, you (probably) won't want it, but any man reading this can become that man. You can also become a m…
/r/seduction18/04/19 12:52 AM
2

I agree with most of these points when they're brought up. I'd like to be the support for the lazy fucks or ones that might have disabilities and can't get ripped. I've been in "the game" for like 8-10 years, I don't know, it's hard to quantify when the starting point was. Anyway, I'm 6ft, I've been 330lbs and I've been 185lbs. I do have muscles, but mostly I'm just a chubby guy that chicks think is hot. I'm 213lbs right now, but I get compliments on my looks all the way up to about 240lbs. At 2…
/r/seduction16/04/19 11:53 AM
1

Bud, usually the advice I give to a bunch of guys around here that sound depressing is that they should go out and do shit....but... You don't sound depressing, you sound depressed. I think the best thing you could do is seek counseling and just talk to someone for a bit. Some people get sad or think negatively all the time or whatever when they're depressed. When I got depressed I felt nothing. I felt no joy. I felt no passion. I didn't give a flying fuck about anything really except waking up,…
/r/seduction13/04/19 12:13 PM
40

I hear it helps if you smear blood on your cheeks, so you look more lively. Then they won't take you to the gas...
/r/seduction11/04/19 07:07 PM
11

Honestly, you'd be surprised what you can say that yield positive results. I can cringe at basically all my encounters in hindsight, but in the moment, they think I'm Don Juan.
/r/seduction10/04/19 10:45 PM
1

I say you tell such toxic people to go fuck themselves That would bring the toxicity into my court and I ain't about that life. Social skills go a long way and one that's extremely beneficial to have is being able to tell when someone is being actually aggressive, trying to inflict physical or emotional damage. Simple teasing can be taken personally, or you can roll with the punch and not be such a reactive person. When you do, you discover that many people rarely mean things the way we take the…
/r/seduction10/04/19 03:50 PM
1

This might be better to talk about on r/relationshipadvice
/r/seduction10/04/19 03:36 PM
2

I've had success with online dating, but it's kind of a chore. I'm married, so I have to go through this rigamarole that explains my relationship, etc. In person, my wife is right there on my arm. I have a ring on. We are clearly together and married. Then I just unabashedly flirt with any woman I want. There's little explaining needed, especially if my wife starts flirting as well. I prefer meeting people in person, but I still use online dating during my downtime. I don't feel irresistible onl…
/r/seduction10/04/19 03:32 PM
1

Yeah, then the guys that question whether she's actually female wouldn't have any doubts, so those 5 guys would have swiped yes too.
/r/seduction07/04/19 06:54 PM
5

B.A. in applied linguistics, so I love this post. Very succinct way to explain a concept I've tried sharing with others, but I think I'll use yours instead from now on. I always just use "Good morning" to teach people, but 'I am groot' is perfect. The thing about teaching/learning this is that it's one key to flirting that will have everything else follow naturally. When you speak a certain way, your body language will match it, your mood, your blood pressure, everything. If you start yelling an…
/r/seduction07/04/19 01:39 PM
1

Every teacher has a different style and every learner has a different style. Yes, some posts will be tedious to you, but helpful to others. Some of them need motivating, so those macho posts call out to them. The beginner has most trouble with motivation to get out there and do something. The macho poster trying to make a buck is going to target the biggest audience. They'll use emotional spiking on men, just like they do women, because we all know it works (when we advance). Some of us are more…
/r/seduction25/03/19 01:19 PM
13

You can be insecure without being bitter and you can also feel insecure but still be attractive. What he's describing is a guy that gets pissy at the drop of a hat. The kind of insecurity that causes a bunch of negative outward behaviors that affect others. If your girlfriend dislikes your indecisiveness and insecurity, then it's probably negatively affecting her(but at least you're not a bitter, worse person).
/r/seduction20/03/19 12:31 PM
3

Yeah....can we stop?
/r/seduction27/02/19 10:46 AM
1

You are correct, I am not morally responsible for other people's promises.
/r/seduction24/02/19 10:10 AM
1

Polyamory?
/r/seduction23/02/19 11:36 PM
1

You mean don't date an asshole? What if she doesn't mention the bf? You still the asshole? Or do things change?
/r/seduction23/02/19 11:36 PM
2

So what? This mentality is so....limited and unbalanced, insecure and....weak, honestly. You guys with your "only one" mindset are cruisin' for a bruisin'. There's not "only one" for you out there and you'll never be the "only one" for another. You absolutely cannot be out there looking for "the one" or you will most likely die disappointed. There's so many people out there worth loving, if even for a day. A week should be appreciated, a month, a year, a minute. Every minute you're with someone …
/r/seduction23/02/19 11:25 PM
1

Am I going behind someone's back if I don't give a shit either way? Meet woman: I have a boyfriend (we have sex). Meet woman: Doesn't mention boyfriend (actually has boyfriend, we have sex). Both women have the same action, but all of a sudden it's my fault if I know she's got a boyfriend? Like somehow he's my boyfriend because I know about him? Somehow I have a commitment to uphold? Fuck no. Other person's responsibility and me existing doesn't make her responsibility any easier, nor difficult,…
/r/seduction23/02/19 11:10 PM
2

I wouldn't be doing it if it weren't. Or...I wouldn't have married her if I couldn't control myself otherwise. If she particularly dislikes a woman, then I do not touch.
/r/seduction23/02/19 10:49 PM
1

Oh, okay. Then yes, I do accept being attractive to people. Gee, you got me.
/r/seduction23/02/19 10:47 PM
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Married, been with my wife 15 years, things are going pretty good. Will definitely bang other dude's girlfriends still. While I don't think others should be lying and cheating, it's not my place to correct them. I'm responsible for how I treat my wife and she's responsible for how she treats me. No one else affects that. And that's how it should be for others, but if it's not, that's not my business. Just remember, you attract what you accept for yourself. I attract honest women, ugly women, lia…
/r/seduction23/02/19 07:55 PM
0

Whatever, I'll be the asshole again, since everyone hates this opinion. Ain't your job to keep a woman faithful. That goes for a woman in a relationship with you, or a woman in a relationship with someone else. If sleeping with someone that's in a relationship isn't for you, then don't do it. Personally, I don't care about their relationship, ain't my job, ain't my problem, and I sure as fuck didn't make a commitment so I'm not going to uphold theirs. That's their duty and has nothing to do with…
/r/seduction23/02/19 07:32 PM
1

What, you thought you'd show up to campus and there'd be pussy delivered on a cart? You still have to talk to people, dude. Yet when I go out, I never get approached and no women ever seem interested in me. Hey, maybe women are thinking the same shit, huh? So be the one that approaches people you like. That never occurred to you?
/r/seduction23/02/19 01:14 AM
8

"Yeah, but....how do I know if she likes me?" - Most guys
/r/seduction19/02/19 11:47 AM
3

The answer to your question is I haven't changed anything, as yet. Yes, I know, it is disappointing and embarrassing for me. I'm afraid there's not much else to say, I just haven't been able to pick myself up and do anything differently yet. You're not getting younger and fear is the only thing stopping you from living a life full of love.
/r/seduction17/02/19 01:51 PM
2

If that's how you think about it, what do you make about all the "I ONLY want a serious relationship, do not contact me otherwise." Some women mean it and some other women mean "I'm sick of creeps being sleazy. Get some class." They don't like being asked for sex or treated like a "slut". Some other women will mean it and still have casual sex, which is how she knows that's not what she wants. Cuz she has an abundance of casual sex and went online to find what she wants. So, she'll still do it, …
/r/seduction17/02/19 01:48 PM
1

Do you still feel like you have to seduce the client? If so, ever fail at that?
/r/seduction16/02/19 08:07 PM
2

Being clear about intentions is boring and unnecessary, in my experience.
/r/seduction16/02/19 06:51 PM
2

I disagree. You've made your conclusion based on your inability to get women. Women will have a casual relationship with anyone they find attractive, you just have to touch them, kiss them, then have sex with them. Because they won't know (until after sex) whether you'll stick around (and become a relationship) or you're never going to speak to them again (casual).
/r/seduction16/02/19 12:02 PM
1

What have you changed about yourself, so far? What steps have you taken?
/r/seduction15/02/19 10:46 AM
1

these girls are the "wait until the 3rd date" types. So....the girls that you ended up with a ONS, they're the same kind of girl yeah? They were probably the same kind of girl and yet they still fucked. At least, that's my experience. Doesn't matter what type of woman they pout themselves off as, that's usually how they want everyone to see them. Yet they're not the way they see themselves or put themselves off as. So, observationally? Women are women, regardless of what type of woman they seem.…
/r/seduction15/02/19 12:25 AM
3

The type you're describing is all based on your perceptions of those types. Personally, I disagree. I think teachers and nurses are "well-to-do" types, sure, but they want dick just like other girls want dick. Girls that put "not here for hookups" are full of shit, first of all. What you need to read that as is, "Don't be a fuckin creep and social idiot and you'll get some pussy." They're not saying they don't want to hook up, they're saying they don't want you to ask and they don't want you to …
/r/seduction14/02/19 10:27 PM
1

Go get a new hair style.
/r/seduction14/02/19 11:32 AM
1

No, that isn't how I'm acting. And none of your assumptions about me relate to me. I am aware of the plight of women and have sympathy for their position. We are here on seduction though to be better men and I personally would prefer men to learn how to seduce women in healthy, benevolent ways. I don't want men acting like shit, nor women. I already said that to you once, so I'm not sure where you perceived the other things.
/r/seduction12/02/19 02:17 PM
1

Perhaps don't speak as if it's condoning their behavior then? I sure don't. Toxicity from anyone is just...garbage. Worthless. None of us should tolerate it or choose to accept it; give it excuses to exist. Your comment and responses to it make you seem rather cynical about how "women" that aren't you specifically treat men. As if the ego bash is deserved simply because a man felt attracted and acted on it by saying hello. A man's ego could deserve a bashing, depending on how aggressive or harmf…
/r/seduction12/02/19 02:30 AM
0

Sometimes it's easier just to be a bitch right off the bat. And also I’m personally never really rude.
/r/seduction12/02/19 02:14 AM
1

We have seen how other women interact with others. Other women that act differently than you and do not tell people to fuck off from the get go. Sure, they can get their ire raised, but they begin with kindness (excluding dangerous cases like dark alleys, etc). So it is personal to you. It says a lot about you that you pick and choose who to begin with your kindness or your ego blows. It's also personal to each man you've chosen to lead with kindness and which you've chosen to lead with hostilit…
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:56 PM
3

Well, I support your point of view. Also, her point of view creates an instant snap judgement for me. I have no trust for a person that would choose to instantly send a fuck off to some people. I'm sure she doesn't do it to all people. So to the people she doesn't tell to fuck off, she's hiding who she really is. She's hiding a person that tells strangers to instantly fuck off. I can respect an instant fuck off directed at me. I will never see that person again, there's nothing to trust. I have …
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:47 PM
1

Well, that's because your friend is garbage at being a wingman.
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:36 PM
1

I mean, is it even a rejection, if she's instantly a bitch? I think about it like this: I am never going to escalate from my normal to huge dick upon someone I've just met. So if someone can instantly do that, would I ever touch them? Would I ever go seek a woman like that and decide to love her? Or a man? Would I want to know a man like that and become best friends with him? Would I want to stick my dick in that girl and risk getting her pregnant and being stuck with her in my life for the rest…
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:32 PM
1

Good girl. 😌
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:18 PM
9

I am the set. Everyone is here for me, because I came here specifically for them. Wherever I go and whatever I do is all of my creation. Everything I do is for me. Everything I witness is the only thing that exists for me. Each new person I talk to tonight wouldn't exist in my life if it weren't for me deciding it to be so. I am responsible for my enjoyment. I am responsible for my happiness. I owe no one anything and no one owes me anything. I will not do harm intentionally and I will not accep…
/r/seduction10/02/19 04:06 PM
1

Amen, loves me some women.
/r/seduction09/02/19 02:55 PM
5

Go slowly and see what point you get slowed down or stopped.
/r/seduction09/02/19 02:54 PM
5

Don't do it in view of others.
/r/seduction09/02/19 01:54 PM
7

Sometimes you can even meet women that'll exhibit all 7 behaviors. Life's crazy. You don't have to sleep with every woman to enjoy every interaction with them. Flirting with married women feels just as good as flirting with single women. You just shouldn't be so starved for affection that you need to sleep with every woman to prove something to yourself. Every woman is willing to go so far with you and sometimes it's flirting, sometimes kissing, sometimes fucking, and sometimes marriage lol
/r/seduction09/02/19 01:43 PM
2

Dude, read the room. Have you seen the things posted here? Respect the fact that some of the guys here can't even speak to a woman. At all. Think about that compared to yourself. Can you speak to a woman? If you can, what would you say to guys that can't? When you read a post that seems beneath you, consider for a moment how much it may benefit those who are beneath you.
/r/seduction06/02/19 07:47 PM
2

You're obviously disgruntled about the physics. Your perception is that women don't do any of the "work", because you don't like your job and don't appreciate their job either. Here's the shittiest, hard thing to hear for (not only you but) most guys here. Women do most of the work and you're just so bad at your job that you can't recognize it. Women will: Make their interest obvious. Help you get laid. Tell you how to get laid. Tell you everything they don't like. Tell you everything they do li…
/r/seduction06/02/19 05:50 PM
2

No, having all-friends. If you have girl friends and guy friends, then it takes out guess work for others. They already know you're valuable, because others value you. You can even pretend to be valuable to others and land those same people. You only just learned that today? Then I'd say you've had an extremely valuable day.
/r/seduction06/02/19 05:39 PM
1

I don't cheat, because I'm honest. I still seek other people, because it feels good. Being honest means that I can just say that to people and they can see me exactly as I am. I don't know any other way to share that with you in an honest way. Side hoes? Really, dude?
/r/seduction12/01/19 11:14 PM
1

who wants to be aloof in life? Well, I do. I get distracted by interesting things and I let my interests guide me. It just happens. When I focus, it's intense, and when I'm aloof it makes an impact on others. It's not on purpose, but it's also never been a detriment to me, so why would I want different? I like that women describe me as them "trying to stare into the sun, but wanting it back when it's gone."
/r/seduction12/01/19 01:26 PM
14

Do it once and then do it again. After that do it three more times. After 5 times you realize, "Some of those interactions were awkward and some weren't." You do ten more and you realize, "You know, some of these girls are trying right back. Some aren't and I don't like those ones." You do fifty more and you realize, "Man, I'm way better at this than most of these girls, this is kind of adorable. So many of them are way more nervous than I am. Except this chick, her confidence is really making m…
/r/seduction12/01/19 01:17 PM
10

I think he was over the top with it, but so are you. You're both seeing aloofness in extremes. On his side of the spectrum he seems to have a concept of promiscuity = aloof and your side of the spectrum ignoring women to garner interest = aloof. Being aloof can simply be in a person's nature. It doesn't require an active mindset to get distracted by something else, it can just happen. It's natural. It's also natural for human beings that want attention to try to get the attention they want. It m…
/r/seduction12/01/19 01:09 PM
1

Jealousy is just a feeling and feelings are allowed. Do you believe jealousy doesn't exist in monogamy? Or is your argument that non-monogamy creates more jealousy? I have plenty of experience with jealousy, my point on abundance remains and I didn't gloss over anything important. Jealousy is not important.
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:00 AM
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That's an immature thought process and an inexperienced one. You are perfectly capable of treating each woman with respect and on an individual by individual basis. Dating multiple women is enlightening socially, emotionally, physically, etc. So, if there's a better one out there than the current one you're seeing, you just find her, and date her, too. There's hardly a reason not to, assuming you can be honest with everyone. Dating multiple women, you'll find that you like them all for different…
/r/seduction10/01/19 09:47 PM
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