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| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Gen Z and Millenials have the easiest time to succeed and thrive in the history of humanity. They have endless options, free education, they can travel all over the world, talk and meet limitless people - and they hate themselves. What a shitty, worthless, pointless group of people. They make me embarrassed to be part of the same species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?All a bunch of garbage, gutter trash not worthy of life. I think humanity is beautiful. The things we've created after pulling ourselves up from the mud are incredible. Art, music, literature, philosophy. I legitimately love people and would anything to make sure we all make it together. I'm glad the nihilist losers have no motivation and never make it to a position of power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Brainwashing. People hate themselves and think humans are an infestation. They disgusts me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 02:03 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's fine. It's about the ends, not the means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 02:03 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Jailtime is an incentive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:53 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?OK, so a $10K fine is acceptable then? Maybe we should make it $10K per year if you think it's not steep enough. Or let's just say 20% of your income. I don't think that would prevent all couples from going childless, but definitely there would be far more people having babies than today. And if you don't think so you're out of touch with reality. No idea what you're last point is. Doesn't make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I'm engaging in basic philosophical questioning. If you can't have answer the most simple question imaginable without talking about 'silly extremes' I'm not interested in having a more substantive debate with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Sounds like we are. See ya | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?What do you mean, dwindle? If all women stopped having babies, how would society not go extinct? All of humanity would be gone in 100 years. Do you really not understand this or are you just being argumentative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Anything else, or are we done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Believe what you want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I have no clue what you're getting at or what argument you are attempting to make. I'm probably in a greater position of power than 99% of people on this sub. I use this space to argue and better flesh out my ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Answer my question - should the world have ended during the age of slavery? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:13 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Answer my question. If women stopped having babies, our society would die. Do you agree or disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Do you understand that society and individuals work together in a feedback loop? I can't believe I actually have to explain how this works. Strong individuals direct and lead societies based on their vision and ideas. You said that individuals can't be accountable for society. This is objectively wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's not true at all. Slavery has been and still is common all across the world. You're describing American slavery, which is particularly nasty. The only reason we've grown is because technology made slaves obsolete. If we lost the technology to produce clothing/food/housing at scale slavery would return. People in general aren't evil, that's the mentality of a child. We behave according to what oursurvival demands. So you think the world should have ended during the days of American slavery,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Just because you don't see reason doesn't mean I'm wrong. Life having no purpose does indeed prescribe further actions. It means there is no objective set of morality, no rules that we need to abide by for any sort of universal condition. The reason suicide is used is because living is equally as meaningful as dying, in your worldview. So why not die? And yet no one of sound mind wants to die. People want to live. Why is that? If this was all meaningless, why do people cling to life as if it mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?The latter. Which are usually led by individuals. I have no idea what your point is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:49 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Of course you could. Not all that long ago we had something called slavery which was institutionalized at the federal level, and that let you own another human being. Is being forced to have a kid worse than that? I don't think so. Desperate times call for desperate measures. If the future of society depended on it, I see no reason why we wouldn't pull out all the stops. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:48 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Plenty of kings you could point to. Is this a serious question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:42 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I'm not telling them anything, it's a fact. I don't care about your daughter or nieces. Actually there are castes, and yes we certainly do have roles. If women stop having babies, our society dies, therefore it is required. Do you disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:41 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?You don't think there are laws implemented that benefit society at the expense of individuals? Like drug laws for example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:40 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Childbirth has never been easy and affordable in human history. Are you insane? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:38 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?You still haven't provided an answer to why besides you don't want to. Many countries have prohibitive laws on freedoms. This is not a new thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:38 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?If it ensured the survival of our planet, absolutely. I would be jumping at the bit to do my part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I'm not sure what your argument is. You don't need to solve any specific problems as long as the species says alive. If there's no purpose to life, then everyone should just kill themselves, or sit around masturbating all day indulging in mindless pleasures. I think my personal beliefs are correct, hence everyone should be subject to them. Why should your "greater good" be selected over mine? Why not? We can create our own meaning, and we can ascribe meaning to others. But there's no inherent ob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I don't care what their point was, my point was correct and they tried to imply it was not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:30 AM |
| -1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I don't mind authoritarianism so your point means nothing to me. I think control is perfectly acceptable and good if it helps human beings keep living. Try using an argument instead of throwing out terms and hoping it hurts my feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:29 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Who said most women are forced to given birth? For thousands of years it's been the expectation women should have children. Because I'm not advocating anything. You are psychotically jumping to conclusions because you have no imagination, and the only solution you can come up with is forced impregantion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:28 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's your opinion. Is individual freedom good if it makes the group suffer? I don't think what you say is a fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:26 AM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Society is shaped by individuals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's why investing in space travel is important and Elon Musk is a hero. In order to survive, we need to leave Earth. I see no reason why humanity is fated to be wiped out long before the earth explodes. Its important humanity survives to understand our purpose in the cosmos and act on it. If nothing has meaning, then life has no value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:16 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?It doesn't need to die out. Just fail to grow at a rate that can sustain the technology necessary to survive an extinction event. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:08 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Individual people and their perception of time don't matter when we're talking about societies and nations. Yes, influences of empires remain. I'm not sure what the point is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:05 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Automation requires lots of people to work on and maintain those systems. A small population won't get there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:01 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?The benefits is that the human race continues and you are taken care of in old age. Are you insane? Women have children. Men get women pregnant, and protect and care for women and their children while they can't do the same for themselves. Those are our core functions. If all of society decided not to follow that model, we would go extinct. Am I wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:59 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I have no idea what you are trying to say, and I don't think you do either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:58 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Of course that's your primary purpose, what else would it be? If men and women aren't having children and raising them everything else in society crumbles. That's the purpose of literally every single animal on Earth. What do you think the role of female pigs or dogs or fish are? To watch Netflix and write slam poetry? It's to fuck and have babies. That's why salmon die right after giving birth but not before. The point of life is to reproduce and survive. That's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:57 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?If the government takes actions that preserve the macro society at the expense of individuals then yes, I'm on board with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:53 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Who said anything about mass killing? Slavery is fine, but for forced child bearing (an activity most women do anyway) then all of humanity should die? Get the fuck out of here. I'm sure people didn't agree with slavery either, but you just acknowledged we probably shouldn't have dropped a nuke on human civilization because of it. I never proposed a solution. You just jumped to some psychotic conclusions. I'm discussing the philosophy of how we think about these problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's true, because I think non-existence is more important than suffering, as I said. I'm not ignoring anything. I'm saying suffering is less important of a problem. I'm not in favor of more suffering. I'm in favor of prioritzing human survival over suffering. Ideally people would suffer less. You clearly aren't comprehending my point. Why is this hard for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:49 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Women absolutely owe humanity children. That is your primary purpose on this earth, like any other female animal. Plenty of people have children without affording children. There are villagers in Africa who live in huts with 10 children. Your arguments are absurd. I don't mind fixing what needs to be fixed, but if you'd rather the human race die if your personal morality is violated I truly, legitimately think you are evil and should get no say in the future of this planet. No offense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:47 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Sure, I think people should sacrifice for their society. The group is more important than the individual. I'm married, and we have multiple children planned. Once my wife can't have more kids, we'll adopt. I don't watch porn. Just because you people here are hypocrites doesn't mean I am. You would fine them for not having children and being married at a certain age. You would also fine them for divorce. Say, $10K or something. I think if people's lack of choices negatively impacts society, then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:44 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?You can't destroy society at a micro level, society is a macro concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:40 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Decades is not a long time. Societies collapse. Otherwise Rome would be the strongest nation in the world. You're moralizing is irrelevant, you have no idea what I do to back up my worldview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:39 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?People who don't care about the future of humanity are selfish, evil, fuckers. It's fine if you don't care, it just means nothing you say about the planet or our society should ever be taken seriously again right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:36 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?What does that have to do with my statement at all? I said non-existence is a more important problem than suffering. Not that suffering isn't important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:35 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Then what's the point of living? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?What does what I said imply I don't care about suffering? I think the survival of all humanity and all future humans is a little more important than temporary suffering. Are you a critical thinker, or a moron? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:31 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Slavery used to be legal. You think that society should hace been wiped out back then? This is such a profoundly stupid argument. It's essentially punishing unborn trillions of humans for our species dealing with hard realities. Grow the fuck up Now I understand why I don't get along with most leftists. Deep down you're all evil and would rather all of humanity die than not get your way. Sickening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:28 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?We decide that as a society, like we do with all other laws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:27 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?So what if men can't do that? That's a woman's responsibility to the human race. It is certainly a risk of death to forego vaccination, is it not? And not only are you risking death, you are risking the death of other people based on your behavior. If you'd rather all humans die than correspond to your personal view of morality, you are evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:26 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I think the question is what if there are societal incentives created that education doesn't solve? I think most people at this point know sugar is not good for you. But sugar tastes really really good, and eaten at the macro level mean the US leading cause of death is obesity/heart disease. There is the assumption I think, that humans are logical animals. And we're not. We're driven by instinct and biological functions. It's hard to get people to do the right thing against their best interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:25 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I have. And? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:22 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?What are you responding to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:22 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?You have no idea what I am, because I haven't disclosed my beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?So there are vaccine laws. What do we call it when a law is violated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:20 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Because I wanted to be with family, not because I was persecuted. Are you alright? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 09:18 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Why just women? I want to control men's bodies too if it's better for society. No point was destroyed. We already have laws that target macro trends. Destroying society is simply something people agree on and want to prevent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 05:04 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I did live in Singapore, actually. I didn't propose anything. Doing fine economically, by standards of happiness, health, and growth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?It explicitly says there are vaccine laws. Either you are confused or the CDC is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?So...Australia doesn't have freedom of speech laws, like I said? Yep, I would rather humanity perished then fell into a nightmare, totalitarian dystopia. Sue me. Bad things happen. People need to do what they can to survive. It's fine to be an enemy of humanity, it just means I don't take your opinions seriously. Simple - children aren't fully developed adults who are able to make informed decisions. So what? You think that's aggressive? I merely pointed out that prohibition has proven itself to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 05:00 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Plenty of countries have limited personal freedoms either slightly or significantly and are doing fine. Singapore is one example. You'll need a better argument than 'you should have unlimited personal freedom because you should" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:57 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?OK | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:56 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Societies do collapse though. Why wouldn't those be the cause? Would it not have a major impact on you if society crumbled and do you not strive to prevent it? If so, don't you think that's a pretty reprehensible and animalistic way of living? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:55 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Thanks? There's some good discussions here I think. Are you going to participate or keeping wasting my time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Not China. Australia doesn't even have freedom of speech laws. Do you know anything about the rest of the world at all? If society decided that we needed an extreme outcome to survive, you said you wanted to let the world burn. Essentially, you only want rules to support macro trends if you personally agree with them - not if they actually help keep us all alive. Nope, unless you believe that any law is authoritarianism. Explain how requiring children to go to school regardless of their personal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:52 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I think suffering is bad in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:47 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?There are plenty of things that don't affect others directly which are regulated. Children being forced to attend school, climate change laws, drug laws, etc. I think there are plenty of personal freedoms that have massive negative societal impacts. Social media addiction and porn addiction are to rampart examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:46 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?No shit. That's what the discussion is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?OK, well the CDC disagrees with you: https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinationlaws.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:41 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?There is nothing you have said that's an interesting answer at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:39 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?The problem is that there are some problems, which, if not addressed early enough can turn into cataclysmic events. Climate change is an example. Even if the Earth raising in temperature a few degrees doesn't result in everything burning, should we behave as if that probably won't happen? Or should we take extreme corrective action early to ensure that it doesn't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:39 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Is a rule being implemented equally and without bias more important than the macro impact the rule has on society? I would rather have a bias rule, than the entire group suffer, wouldn't you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:36 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I didn't mention any solutions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:35 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Who said I was looking for a magic answer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:34 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?And the outcome of which is a society where personal liberties are heavily restricted, the people are repressed and power is consolidated within an elite group. Ergo, authoritarianism. If you like that, North Korea will gladly welcome defectors. That's too extreme. There are plenty of countries that have vaccination laws, and other laws that restrict personal liberty which are not North Korea. You have a very American centric view of the world. Because they're children. We as a society understan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I never said that was a thing, so I'm not sure what you're arguing about. Then it's not "against the law" to be unvaccinated. There are plenty of things that are against the law that don't result in jailtime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:27 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's still a law. And my point on truancy was that education was required regardless of the choice it's taken to implement. "I will not educate my children" is not an available option in the same "I will not raise a child" could not be an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Is it authoritarian to require children to attend school? Do you oppose this? Climate change is a great example because people aren't doing nearly enough. That's why there are laws aimed at the businesses who are primarily generating CO2 yet still buying products from those companies. Is that authoritiarian also? And if yes, is it a bad thing? Are you acknowledging that authoritarianism is acceptable if its kept quiet? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?This is a great way of saying nothing at all and taking no stance. My question is about the balance, and how far in one direction society can go without taking action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:21 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?If it's an accident, sure. If it's not an accident, or predictable, then no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:20 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Depends if men getting laid makes our society better. If yes, sure, why not spend money on it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:18 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's just untrue. A vaccine mandate is quite literally a legal precedent. It just doesn't result in jail time for a violation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:17 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I'm saying whether you call it authoritarianism or not doesn't matter, it's just a word and has nothing to do with a question of outcomes. Where I'm from, they are mandatory, especially to attend school. How do you decide what a necessary action to prevent a crisis is and what isn't? We also have laws against children not attending school in general. Violating this is called truancy and is subject to a fine. I personally feel we are in a crisis of sex and porn addiction, and the data proves it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:14 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?That's why we have laws, to decide on those definitions. So you're saying that we should be spending tax dollars to combat macro trends in society? Before you were saying you were against this and pro free market exclusively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:10 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?In what way are humans accepting death at the macro level? Should we have laws that prevent businesses from polluting our environment for example? These exist. How about laws that require children to attend school? These also exist. And they exist for the same reason - to stop highly negative macro trends. "We have time to figure out" isn't really an answer to my question. My question is about whether or not you take away personal freedom to protect society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:09 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?There are indeed state laws for vaccination. But even if you aren't familiar with vaccination laws, there are also laws for children requiring some type of education. Same theme applies. Truancy fees, depending on where you are, fines parents around $25 a day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:05 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?What does this have to do with my question at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:04 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?And if we can't? We accept death? Governments do indeed legally mandate vaccines. There is a choice, but there is also a penalty instituted on behalf of our society. Are you in favor of penalties for not having children, for example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 03:56 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?I think we the people decide that. Dying prematurely, suffering, starving, all outcomes most of us recognize are bad for society. Do you disagree? How does the free market handle addiction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 03:54 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?You can call it what you want, but a scary name doesn't change the argument. We already do this by the way, it's called vaccinations. Being unvaccinated against certain communicable diseases is against the law. That's because at some level personal choice affects others around you. The solution matters less than the outcome. Should we be willing to let society die because women aren't giving birth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 03:53 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Why shouldn't we restrict individual freedom? Do you feel the same about vaccinations, for example? Plenty of people are anti-vax. Should they be allowed to exercise their personal freedom, even though they risk re-introducing the bubonic plague back into society? How does AI/technology solve that problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 03:49 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?Some group of people decides, or society votes on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 03:47 PM |
| 3 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestTell me you've never traveled without telling me you've never traveled. I lived in SEA half a decade and never felt in danger, meanwhile I spent one day in Chicago and got robbed outside a gas station lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 08:02 AM |
| 2 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestIt works pretty much everywhere there are english speakers, honestly. Philippines is desirable because everyone speaks English, not because they are poor. They are a much richer country than Cambodia or Vietnam or Pakistan or Uzbekistan but those countries don't speak English so no one goes there. It's why a lot of the passport bros go to Dominican Republic and not Paraguay. It's just about the proliferation of English. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 08:00 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeNothing I said was even remotely aggressive. I understand your perspective, and I'm saying that just because you are personally motivated to change your behavior in this area, doesn't mean you would be equally personally motivated to change your behavior in other areas. If your partner was a freak athlete that wanted you to go to the gym 7 days a week would you do it? If he wanted you to cook 3 meals a day would you do it? If he wanted you to do the dishes and clean the house while he watched TV… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 04:16 AM |
| 0 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeAnd I think it's the exact opposite. I think that's the BEST way to preserve your relationship. One thing that destroys relationships is resentment. And resentment manifests because the balance of the relationship, real or perceived, is swung too far in one direction. What causes that shift isn't one big argument, but the accumulation of perceived unfairness over time. What eliminates that completely is being very clean on the trade-offs we're making. "If you want the house clean to X standard I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 04:06 AM |
| 0 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeCompletely wrong. Changing behavioral patterns held over decades is HARD. Adults understand behavior change is hard and treat it seriously. What adults shouldn't do, is enter a relationship with no expectations and then demand change after the constraints of the relationship have already been established. If my wife asked me to significantly changed myself for her comfort AFTER we got married I'd divorce her immediately, especially if she offered me nothing in return. That shows a complete lack … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:56 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeIt's not compatibility, it's establishing expectations in advance and agreeing or disagreeing. That's just being clear about the boundaries and expectations of the commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:49 AM |
| 0 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeThat's true. And if there is no expectation set at the beginning of the relationship, it's unreasonable to try to force that change after the fact. If however, you say 'sex is a prerequisite to us being together' and then she decides to break that contract, then breaking up is a reasonable expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:48 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeWomen call forcing people to change their habits 'controlling.' Explain how dating someone, never establishing any standard for cleanliness, getting into a LTR, then threatening them to change or break up isn't controlling behavior according to those standards? No one should be expected to change themselves to make you comfortable. It's your responsible to find someone who lives in a way that allows you to be comfortable, or to clearly define the terms of the relationship versus throwing your hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:46 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeThere doesn't have to be any baseline whatsoever besides what someone is comfortable with. If someone is a fat cow, and they have poor diet, and poor fitness habits should there be a baseline of fitness? Is that required for a relationship? Nope, not at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:44 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeThe question is how does the person live on their own. If the answer is 'Roughly the same as they are living in a relationship' your argument has no merit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:43 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeWhether it benefits both parties is completely irrlevant. Working out intensely every single day would probably 'benefit' the party who doesn't exercise at all. But to enter into a relationship and DEMAND the other party exercise regularly without communicating that need in advance is unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:42 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeIt's not compatibility, it's about the expectation and terms of the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:41 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeDoing something for someone else's comfort and not your own , while you get no reciprocation on the things you want is the definition of getting nothing in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:40 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeThat's the responsibility to communicate prior to marriage or LTR. Most women like to complain about this after they already chose to get married, usually because they never established that as the agreement. Compatability is just another way of saying agreeing to the terms of the relationship contract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:39 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeNope, totally disagreed. If you don't have a reciprocal relationship you're not an adult and shouldn't be dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:38 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeWhat you view as self respect and cleanliness isn't the same as everyone else. Do you disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:37 AM |
| 2 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeDepends on what it is. I like going to the gym 6 days a week. I think most people would assume I was unreasonable if I expected my partner who never did that before to raise to my standard. Women call men trying to change women's behavior 'controlling' but when they do it it's fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:37 AM |
| 1 | It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchangeCompatability is just another way of saying expectations. Relationships are 100% transactional whether we acknowledge it or not. If we did nice things for our partner and they don't reciprocate it wouldn't feel good, would it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:36 AM |
| 0 | If a woman's sexual past shouldn't be a factor in a relationship, would you, as a woman, consider dating a man who has previously been sexually dominated by 10 men?Go tell that to all the women in PPD who insist body count isn't important then. RedPillers aren't the one telling women they shouldn't care about body count or that they are forced to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:33 AM |
| 1 | If a woman's sexual past shouldn't be a factor in a relationship, would you, as a woman, consider dating a man who has previously been sexually dominated by 10 men?Can you recognize you are probably in such a small fraction of the population it essentially invalidates anything you have to say about sexual dynamics? It's sort of like trying to have a normal conversation about domestic abuse and someone comes in and says they enjoy being punched in the face and see nothing wrong with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 03:07 AM |
| 4 | If a woman's sexual past shouldn't be a factor in a relationship, would you, as a woman, consider dating a man who has previously been sexually dominated by 10 men?I think the point is that the 'past is in the past' is the common statement typically made about body count. So we either care about the here and now of our sexual experiences or we don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 03:05 AM |
| 1 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.Then you're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 07:35 PM |
| 0 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.No one has trust issues. Stop trying to shame people for thinking logically, it makes you sound dumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 05:30 AM |
| 3 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.You have the right idea but the completely wrong conclusion,. The more risky something is the less you have trust. The more dangerous something is, the more security you need. Your argument is totally backwards. You are essentially saying the most important relationship requires the least proof. It doesn't follow. Dating has very few consequences. You are gradually building your trust, yes - but marriage is a much higher barrier to entry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 05:29 AM |
| 3 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.Because trust is a choice and not a feeling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 05:26 AM |
| 10 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.Following the thesis of the posi It does make you an idiot, but in a normal distribution of outcomes sometimes stupidity works out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 05:23 AM |
| 2 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.I have no idea what this post is trying to say, other than trust is built over time through behaviors, which is my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 05:21 AM |
| 1 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.What a completely useless, irrelevant, pointless comment with zero merit or evidence. You're probably one of the toxic trustworthiness people I was talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 02:40 AM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?I am married lol, I think you're lost in this conversation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 07:56 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?Have you not been following the conversation? I said this like three times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?Proving that your argument on why marriage is an indicator of commitment is circular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 03:45 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?So what? As long as they aren't getting married again it changes nothing. The only thing marriage guards against is...getting married again. It's circular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 02:12 AM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?No you don't. You can walk out the door anytime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 09:03 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?If you're 'not' in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 03:46 PM |
| 3 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.And the men said "I catcall because I want to control women?" Would love to see some proof of that you liar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 11:10 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?So? What does that matter if you're in the relationshio? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenMy first response to you: "Could be, but it's pure hubris to believe that you have the ability to perfectly predict other's behavior. Everyone thinks they won't cheat, until they do" AKA: Everyone has the capacity to cheat. My next response was explaining how some women I've observed cheating are actually 'good' people, highly educated, yet they still cheated. Then I said: "I don't think people are shit or not, generally speaking. People can have shit moments and shit relationships. My belief is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThen your reading skills suck ass. That was the whole point. You have no clue what you're even debating, do you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 06:12 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?That's the same in a marriage. You can leave at any time. You can literally walk out the front door and start fucking other people whenever you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 06:10 PM |
| 24 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Another mindreader feminist back it again. How do you know what people think Charles Xavier? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenIt's a redpill fairytale to say anyone has the capacity to cheat? You're weird man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 09:36 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenCan't challenge the point so you back out. Classic. See you troll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 07:46 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?This is circular. It's an invalid argument. I just demonstrated that you can leave a marriage at any time. How is it commitment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesThat's not an argument. That's a statement, and it's circular. As I just said, I am asking you to explain why marriage is for children. You are just saying it is. Have you never had a debate before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesThis would fall into the totally illogical category. And I as a functioning adult care if people make illogical decisions which end in disaster. You don't? Not being slut shamed doesn't benefit the children, it benefits the mother. If the argument was that women are afraid of being socially damaged as a single mother, I think that'sfine, but again I'd say point 2. Either no one gets married for this reason, or they certainly don't say it. I think if more women said "I want to get married so I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesYou made 0. All you have said in this conversation is 'marriage is for children and here's some historical context and a pubmed article saying it is.' There is not a single argument you have which shows why marriage is for children. Circular reasoning, yet again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesCircular reasoning. Marriage is for children because it is. Make an argument. The reason marriage is a financial function is because when you sign a marriage contract it's primary purpose is to divide assets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesHow is this a rant in any way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesThen I'll amend my list: It's circular reasoning, totally illogical, or a lie. There. That covers it. No one gets married for the tax benefits. See point 2. So your point is people get married so women have more sympathy if they are left? I've never heard a single person say this, besides you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:25 PM |
| 0 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesYou clearly don't grasp the point. If you really only cared about God and your family, then you wouldn't need to file a government contract. But you did. You did not get married for God. A wedding would have been enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesDo you understand a wedding and being married aren't the same thing? You are not married in anything but spirit unless you sign a contract with Uncle Sam. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesYes it does. It does. It clearly shows it is NOT its purpose. No, to split assets. Children was an expectation, not a requirement. Plenty of people are married without children. You are making things up. Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?Circular reasoning. It shows commitment because your marrying them, and marriage shows commitment. Explain how. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesWhat does that have to do with God? I'm addressing your initial statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesA logical human mind? Not sure what you're asking. Symbolism without tangible change is definitionally meaningless. You don't need to prove the man is the father. The benefits are minimal and mainly are afforded to the man. Many people have children without getting marriage and it changes nothing. Marriage does not hold parents accountable to sticking around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:13 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?Answer my question. How does it show commitment if you can leave at anytime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesThe state of NY requires a government contract to spend your life with someone? Which law is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesSymbolism is meaningless unless there is some tangible change in the relationship itself. See #1 The government is involved in the life of the child and hence the relationship from the moment its born. That accountability is required. Again, see #1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesWhy did you need to get a contract with the government to stand before God and promise to spend your life with someone? Does God require a government contract? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesMarriage originally had nothing to do with religion. It was to combine familial assets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no idea why they got married and use circular reasoning or lies to defend their choice. Generally, marriage is a purely financial decision and should be treated that way by all partiesMarriage is not primarily for children. The percent of children born to unmarried parents is around 40%. Marriage is not a prerequisite in any way. The history of marriage is quite clear and can be found here: As a vehicle for joining families wealth As a religious sacrament | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 02:59 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?How? If you're American we have no fault divorce. You can leave at any time. You can literally walk out the front door whenever you want and its over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 02:47 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?I have no idea what this statement means. Why does this particular symbolic gesture matter? And if it does matter, why not just say 'we're married' without signing a government contract? Children would have no idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 02:22 PM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?Why? What does the paper change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Trad Wife TourismWho assumed that they all want to be trad wives? Did I say that somewhere? You said, and I quote: "When given the actual option most women don’t choose these “traditional values” so that should tell you something about them." That is A.) Wrong, and B.) very clearly makes the assumption you feel western values are superior to traditional values. Again never said that. You implied it with the above statement. Interesting do these countries not have men? Why wouldn’t these women just marry the men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 05:39 AM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenYou're not making an argument. You're just saying 'I have more experience than you.' You provided no data and then typed 'hahaha' like a 14 year old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 05:29 AM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenNo they aren't. If you would bet your life having literally no knowledge of who I am or what I've done speaks to your rough level of intelligence. The fact you don't have any personal experience with what I'm discussing is self admitted on your part, so I have no idea what you're even arguing about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Trad Wife TourismIf you have a problem with the values themselves then just say that. That's a very different argument from going to a certain place in order to find people more like you. On the latter argument, I strongly disagree and I think it's borderline nationalist to assume every woman wants to be an American westerner. Clearly you've never traveled to a more conservative culture, many of which have far older and richer histories than the West. If you truly believe every woman wants to work every 9-5 5 da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 10:15 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThere are no statistics on this. I don't think people are shit or not, generally speaking. People can have shit moments and shit relationships. My belief is that cheating (and most bad behavior) is a result of a bad situation + emotional lows. Your perspective takes far too much of a rigid perspective of human nature. Some people might be unbelievably loyal in one relationship, and borderline abusive in another. Whether or not they stay together is not relevant to me. I'm talking about cheating,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI really think you're overestimating yourself. The people I described were all college educated, some at the Ivy League level, all had good full-time jobs, one of the women had a master's degree, the other was a pharmacist. There are some potential signs in background (one was raised in a single mother household) but I can almost guarantee the other would be have been near impossible to pick out as a cheater. She had great grades, two parent household, pretty conservative upbringing... I've just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 09:25 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenCould be, but it's pure hubris to believe that you have the ability to perfectly predict other's behavior. Everyone thinks they won't cheat, until they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Trad Wife TourismWhat's wrong with specifically seeking women based on their values? I just don't get it. Isn't that the most important part of a relationship. Sure, constrained cultures are better cultures in my opinion. Just because you have unlimited options doesn't mean you're automatically better. A lot of women want traditional men too, but no one seems to shame them. It's like wanting a traditional Muslim relationship and going to a Muslim country for that. Why is that wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Trad Wife TourismBut what do you mean by generally? Like I said, I lived in these countries and the vast majority of dating between foreigners and locals was through people who lived in the country or were there for work. Both people usually had a pretty similar economic background. I feel western women's perception of dating outside your home country is skewed by television and not real life. But I do think women abroad are more traditional, no? My wife for example, despite earning a near six figure salary in h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Trad Wife TourismYou're right in some cases, but not all. For example my wife is Filipina and is the opposite of every checkbox on your list She had ~50K USD in savings Fluent English speaker Great family College degree and MBA Was working in government and then tech Literally worked on immigration law As with all countries, there is lower class, middle class, and upper class. Countries like Philippines and Thailand are more stratified, but it doesn't mean every single woman who lives there is broke and desperat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Trad Wife TourismAre they actually more desperate, or are the Western men just better options for them? I spent around 5 years living and working abroad and something you see very quickly is that Western romance is extremely appreciated and oftentimes not expected in many non Western countries. I remember dating a girl when a lived in China who was richer than me, but the fact I would rub her back at night, and be affectionate with her in public (like holding her hand) and wasn't an emotionless stone was somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 05:56 PM |
| 0 | why do you want marriage?You don't need to get married to buy a house together. You definitely can visit a partner in the hopsital. What you get in the event of death can be determined by a will you don't need marriage for that. Most people aren't getting married for visitation rights or wills by the way. I'm just trying to understand. The only thing you said which is a real difference is combining assets. I agree with that. I think marriage is a purely financial decision and nothing more really - which is how marriage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 04:10 AM |
| 0 | why do you want marriage?Why do you need a marriage for that? You can do a name change without being married. I understand he wanted to be your husband, I'm asking you why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 01:00 AM |
| 1 | why do you want marriage?Why is that a weird question? I honestly want to know. Are you saying if you didn't get married you wouldn't be committed to your partner? Does signing a piece of paper make you a more committed, faithful lover? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 12:59 AM |
| 2 | why do you want marriage?Why did you need marriage for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 06:51 PM |
| 2 | why do you want marriage?It's stable 2 parent households. the marriage changes nothing. you got married for reason #2 or is it a happy coincidence? Most people don't get married to do less documentation, same for number 3 #6 makes sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 06:50 PM |
| 2 | why do you want marriage?What does marriage have to do with commitment? Plenty of people are in lifelong partnership without being married. Or are you saying marriage for you is a financial commitment, meaning you want his assets as insurance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerSociology is also not a science, the fact they are comparable proves my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 06:28 AM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI literally just said I don't care about any of these people, yes. Why should I? I don't know them, they have no impact on my life at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerBecause it's a fucking animal that can crawl on you, touch you in ways you don't want to be touched, bite you, hurt you, etc. This is not rocket science. We don't know whether any spider is poisonous or can bite or not, so we get scared by all of them. This seems so basic Cars are not animals! An animal is a living being with a mind, and that makes it completely unpredictable, and unpredictability is scary. The car isn't dangerous at all, it's the human in the car that's dangerous, and humans ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerAre you afraid of a crazy homeless person? That's about the mental state of a spider. I don't get what's hard about this. A spider is an unpredictable animal. It can bite you. It's scary and gross. Cars are not going to suddenly start attacking you. They are machines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 03:24 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerAre cars attacking you? You guys really don't understand this. The car isn't trying to kill you. That's the difference. It's the intent of the object. Spiders are scary because they are unpredictable and can attack you! Would you be more afraid of a crazy person trying to run you over in a car, or a spider? Obviously the crazy guy right? That has nothing to do with evolution but understanding intent, which even children can do easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerHow do you know men have always been attracted to wide hips? In China and other SE Asian countries attractive women are supposed to be skinny. That's only changing recently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerOnly if you're trying to make empirical statements about the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerBut we obviously don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerAre you really not intelligent enough to understand I meant language in the macro sense? Glad I don't need to waste my keystrokes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerBecause it's an unpredictable animal! What are you not understanding about this? Cars are driven by people who are not unpredictable animals, millions of us drive on the road every day and it's totally fine. How many people get attacked by spiders and are totally fine? Probably far fewer. Then why does jerking off feel good too? Do the animals that jerk off forever also go on to reproduce more? what are you even saying??? and so you're saying these modern cave man wouldn't be afraid of cars comi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerYeah, you can't prove instinct with a research paper, unless you're looking at newborn babies. What does being a historian have to do with evo psych? There is absolutely a mono culture. Language, is one example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerWe get into cars and drive them because we have safety equipment, and the risk of dying is worth the reward of traveling. People are creeped out by spiders because they are unpredictable animals and don't want to get bit. I truly have no clue what you are saying Why would anyone want to father lots of children at a sperm bank? What does this have to do with anything? Why just bring up venomous things? People react badly to anything that bites because it fucking hurts and can kill us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:21 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerAre we not more afraid of cars than spiders? I think if a car was about to hit someone they'd be way more afraid of it than a spider. What does this have to do with anything? why would men chase sperm banks? What incentive do I have to go to a sperm bank? How do you know what cave men reacted instinctively to? Are you a time traveler? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerNo you can't prove it. Just because something isn't explained doesn't mean it's evolution. You can't prove it transcends time, unless you have a time machine to go conduct studies back then. Even if it transcends individual cultures, it doesn't transcend culture in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerHypergamy specifically refers to marrying up. Not wanting what they perceive as best in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerYou can prove there is an inclination, but you cannot prove that inclination is due to evolution. You cannot separate culture from biology, because it is too deeply intertwined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:50 AM |
| 5 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerYes. And that there is only one animal in the world which has the ability to drastically change our behaviors over time through culture - humans. Trying to apply rules from pigs and sheep to people leaves out the largest part of what makes our species different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:38 AM |
| 4 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerNo, it isn't. What's testable is women's preference. What isn't testable is the evolution-based reason for that preference. The former is psychology, the latter is evo psych. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerNo one bases their life choices off peer review. Who the fuck cares if its peer reviewed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:29 AM |
| 4 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerThat's not testable, that's an assumption which may or may not be true, just like all of evo psych. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerWhat the fuck are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:24 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerPeople wanting what they perceive as best is not hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerIt's not a hard science at all because it isn't testable. At least in real psychology, you can run a controlled experiment to validate your claims. Evo psych is more like fan fiction + history + zoology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:17 AM |
| 4 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerEvo psych is not a hard science, and therefore when it is used as a justification for anything it can be easily picked apart. End of story | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerJust because it's well known in mammals doesn't mean it also applies in human beings because we have evolved in a very different way: complex language, society, tools, etc. Our stomachs can't even handle raw meat anymore. You can't separate the fact we are fundamentally different from every other animal. Are there some things humans have in common with mammals? Sure. But that doesn't mean we have a common trait just because we both happen to be mammals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 10:56 PM |
| -1 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerYeah, pretty much. I don't think just because someone studied something that makes it not bullshit. Pretty much all of the humanities is bullshit, and evo psych is not a hard science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 10:54 PM |
| -2 | Redpillers should stop bringing up evo psych and dating studies because it makes their argument much weakerWhat? Yes I did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 10:53 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenWhy should I care? These people aren't my friends, I don't give a single fuck about their lives. The women made the choices. If they want to cheat that's on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI was horny, sue me. I don't care what losers on reddit think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataWhy wouldn't it be indicative of a trend? If millions of women all have similar experiences where they get beaten up by their boyfriends, and all those boyfriends have very similar characteristics, you think that would be random chance and not indicative of a trend? This is exactly my point. People want statistical certainties to a degree that it makes them look ridiculous. We can point out bad patterns and trends without needing a study to do. Are we going to be right 100% of the time? No. But … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesOk dude, have a chill day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:36 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.Well you just got taken to school. Maybe you owe u/HolyPipidastra some student loan money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:34 AM |
| 29 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.Disagreed. I think women really care about the standards of men they are attracted to. I've had women move states, fly across the country, change their whole attitude and behaviors, change their job, quit their job, basically do whatever I told them to do because I was so desirable that changing themselves was worth it. I'd phrase it like this: Men have broader desire: Men can date and fuck almost any woman that breathes, is somewhat attractive and is nice to them. They have lower standards, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:31 AM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happen100% agreed with your final paragraph. My biggest criticism of 'enjoy the decline' is that it's defeatist and very non-alpha. I don't respect hedonists | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:23 AM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesI mean, yeah Phil and the ex are messy trainwrecks, but I gave a bunch of examples. What about the influencer? I think it's easy to chalk everything up to 'well that person is shit and I'm better' but this comes off a simplistic and frankly childish perspective. Sleeping with people is fine, doesn't mean you're a train wreck. Not being married at 40 doesn't mean you're a trainwreck. Cheating is messy (hence why I just recommend to not lie about and enjoy an open relationship) You're blind spot i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:22 AM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesIf those are outliers, then this entire post is about outliers because that is what TRP advocates for men to become. Please, try your best to understand instead of blindly responding. Read the title of this post again. Read it twice, or three times if it doesn't sink in. I've said all I need to say without repeating myself. Ask yourself: "Is a physically fit, financially successful, 40 year old with a great lifestyle an outlier? If yes, does it change the thesis of this post?" I understand you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:12 AM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenhaha yeah you could say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesDo you want me to give you more examples? I know a 45 year old man who used to be my boss at a tech company that would pull young women literally every time we went out, which admittedly wasn't often but the guy had game. I used to work in pro sports, and there was guy named Phil in his late 40s and jacked that competed with us regularly. When he was in town I would book his hotels literally every time he had a different girl, and he was married. Like, he was so horny he would alternate between … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:45 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happen5'8" but pretty much yeah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:37 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenRP is definitely not on the decline. Maybe in the literal sense, as in redpillers, but men who preach their values like Tate, Fresh and Fit, Kevin Samuels, and others have exploded in popularity. There's like a new 100K+ RP youtuber pretty much every day. Ignore at your peril I suppose Young girls love toxic men. Feminism won't stop that otherwise fuck bois would have never beena thing. I mean less men and women are feminists, outright rejection of feminism, etc. Feminism really has no answer fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:36 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataSure, that's true. I think there is a lot of confirmation bias in RP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:32 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataI don't think you know what data is. Data does not mean 'makes up a large enough percent for me to care.' Otherwise then blind people aren't data, trans people aren't data, feminists aren't data. It doesn't make any sense I can't really move forward if you think the experience of a minimum of 100s of thousands of people isn't data. That's absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:31 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesRisk increases in your 30s, what do you mean? Healthy men have negligible risk for heart attacks I promise you, there are 40 year olds who are like crack to young women. One of my friends is a PT that works mainly with 20s early 30s. He's a social media influencer and his DMs are literally packed constantly. It's crazy to see. If you think it's not happening, you just don't know the right people I don't think anyone is saying a flock of 20 year olds will fuck a 40 year old guy, but can a good lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:28 PM |
| 12 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenExactly. One of the craziest things for me was asking one of my female friends how many of her married friends were cheating, sexually or emotionally and without hesitation she said 100%. But that was because she had extreme levels of trust in me. 99% of men don't have access to that sort of honesty because they don't want to be exposed or judged but if you know then you know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:25 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI'm actually below average height lmao But I have a big dick and I'm really, really good in bed. Like 'get convulsions and pass out' good. I've had chicks message me YEARS later ready to throw their wholes lives away to get smashed again haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 11:21 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesHealthy men are not in heart attack alley at 40, what are you talking about? The average age for a first heart attack is 65. Again, you're just proving my point. He is seen as desirable by much younger women. He chooses women near his age. I'm not talking about most older men. Reread the title of the post, read the OP and try responding again. Most men are not relevant in this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:43 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThen my point still stands. In order to run a counter offensive you need to have a better argument that speaks to what men actually experience. This is why feminism has been getting utterly obliterated by redpill over the past few years, and it's going to get much, much worse. Guys like Andrew Tate are just the beginning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:35 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenAre there a lot of dead bedroom stories from alpha bluepillers? Most I've seen are from guys who were average at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:34 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenLike I said bud, sticks and stones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI don't think so? I'm married, I've cheated twice, been cheated on twice, had around 6 LTRs, had a bunch of sex-partners but very rarely under the premise of anything more than that. .1% in the US, globally it would probably be more like .0001%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:32 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataIs it small? It's minimum in the hundreds of thousands, right? Why wouldn't what hundreds of thousands of people say/think not be data? If millions of women have bad experiences have bad experiences that's also data. Why do you think this is counter to what I said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:30 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThen what are you here for? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesEh, you're just wrong. I'm not old, but I know too many women who see an older attractive guy as daddy and it is very sexual. lol so wtf, he is literally dating 20 years younger, why are you arguing with me again? Sounds like your dad could go younger if he wants to, he just doesn't feel like it. What is the blocker in this conversation, I think I'm confused. Why can't you just acknowledge I'm right, and some older men do great with younger women who find them hot? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:00 PM |
| 1 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataI don't think RP is trying to turn feelings into facts. It's about looking at common behavioral patterns and observing the common outcomes. I don't think you have to let feelings lead. You choose to let feelings lead, and the outcomes that come of it can be good or bad. Personal experience isn't the same as feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 08:53 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenIsn't that how all groups/clubs/products/new ideas are formed? Feminism grew in popularity exactly because so many women had these experiences of sexual assault and suddenly realized it wasn't just them, it was an entire culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 08:51 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenHey, you're the one who said AMALT. I'm also a type .1% guy in pretty much every respect, so less about take what you can get, and more that you don't access to the top without some trade-offs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 08:21 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesThere's a bunch of 40 year old men that are plenty attractive, come on now. OK so why are you arguing with me about this with me then? You think your dad couldn't get some action if he really wanted to? Like, your own lived experience is living proof of my point but you're disagreeing with me, I don't get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 08:18 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenHow are they unrelated? In TRPs case the former is a subset of the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataHow is it made up? It's here on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 08:15 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesIs it really that hard? The Rock is 50 years old and I don't think he would be turned down much based on his age. Most women (if they have a target age) have a number based on what they think is attractive IMO, but that's often because the types of men they are familiar with seeing at that age are fat, wrinkly, and of shape. I remember I brought a couple girls to my house once and both of them were giggling about my dad in the car back and was calling him sexy. The man was 60 at the time, but he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesLike I said, I think that's fine but I don't think it's normal for women to have strict age limits. It's mainly based on attraction. Do you disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesIt's standard if its desired. Most successful men got married earlier in life, in their social circle. It doesn't mean they couldn't have been with someone very young and attractive if they didn't want to, they just didn't want to or didn't want to put in the effort that comes along with a relationship like that. You're confusing what people have the capacity to do, and what they actually do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesRight, but the young men have even more selection than the old men. If the older men are dating in the top 1%, the young men with all those qualities are datinf in the top .1%. The more good qualities you have the more selective you can be. I don't agree with you, I'm just pointing out it doesn't really change that top tier guys get who they want regardless of age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesI'm married, so I got my young hot woman already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:08 PM |
| 3 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI also agree with AMALT, and most redpillers would too I think. When me and my wife first met one of the first things I told her was that I had the capacity to cheat on her, I wasn't going to apologize for that, and so she needed to expect that if something happened between me and another girl it was normal, but I would be discrete, safe and, honest about it always. She thought about it for a while, and then said something to the tune of, "I don't like that, of course I want someone totally loya… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenBased on what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:56 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataBP is a shorthand for common opposition to RP. As I said, this is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:56 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesReread the post and see if you can answer that question yourself. (Hint: It's answered in the first sentence of the title) They are competing with more attractive young men, but that is countered by their other attributes. It doesn't mean they are used for money, it means they have many more desirable qualities which younger men don't have. You're kind of having an argument with yourself here, since I didn't say anything to the contrary of any point you are making. Only that good looking, financ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:54 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesSure, I don't disagree a lot of women have needed to do that. The point that RP men make is that because they are desirable even at an older age then they can do it pretty easily. I've personally found this is true. Most women just don't have these hard limits on who they will or won't be with. In my experience it's based more around what they are physically attracted to and how the man makes them feel emotionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:50 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI don't think anyone claimed it was the norm. All RP has done is identified the patterns which are associated with cheating and mitigate them. It's not living in fear, it's being cognizant of the world around you. I used to work in sports and spent a lot of time with pro athletes. They were all doing steroids. As in 100%. Yet so many normal people and young athletes wanting to go pro refused to accept it. Because I spent so much time around these people, I can identify almost immediately when an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesThe reason we don't see that is because older men who are fit, attractive and successful are going for the top 1% of beautiful women, not average looking 20 year olds who work at Dairy Queen. Even most women on PPD acknowledge that if a fit, 40 year old hedge fund millionaire came to a college campus they would have no trouble at all finding a partner. You're falling into the exact pattern I layed out in the OP. Like word for word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:40 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataI have no idea what you are trying to say. I am pointing out common tropes from PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:38 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataOK? I never said they did. I'm just referring to common trends from not redpillers. I think BP is a fine short hand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:34 PM |
| 0 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesI don't think most women think like you, as in they don't have a number in their head and stick to it. If they do, I'd guess it's kind of an arbitrary number like they want a guy who is 6 feet tall, but really just want someone taller than them. For example my sister is 27 dating a man who is 40, despite swearing she'd never do it and even making fun of my parents being in an age gap relationship. She just...really liked him. He was attractive, charming, a good leader, made an effort to win her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenSure, I'd agree with that, but that's because I think a variety of lived experiences is almost always better than a limited one. Plenty of blue pilled guys are super alpha and have had some bad experiences, but generally RP doesn't listen to them much, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:28 PM |
| 2 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesThat's probably true, but it also doesn't inherently make you more attractive than you were in your 20s. Attraction is a sliding scale. I knew plenty of good looking guys with bad social skills that got hit on plenty in college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:26 PM |
| 2 | All else being equal, a woman would date a younger man over an older man. But because RP advocates fitness, financial success, and a good lifestyle - older RP men in theory have significantly more options than their younger selvesOK. So what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:25 PM |
| 1 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataThat's one interpretation, but you could flip that on it's head couldn't you? I am a business owner. When I started raising money I understood that the best thing to do is to have an advantageous deal which allowed me to retain as much of the company as I can. While of course I want to partner with an investor I have a great relationship with, I also understand that if I fail to perform the relationship is over and those good intentions won't save me. Even more, I know many founders who took a v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:24 PM |
| 4 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataWhen I say BP I'm just referring to RP counters on PPD in shorthand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:03 PM |
| 0 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI mean yeah, I think that the feminists are right about that though, and I wouldn't need a study to prove it. I think as a society we believed those types of statements and most men have adjusted their behavior accordingly (except the rapists of course) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:01 PM |
| 13 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThis is the truth, sadly. Only the people actively engaged in the dirt really understand how frequently its going on, and because they engage in it so often they also understand all the signs. I used to work in the sports business so I saw how often people would dope, and it was literally constant. I mean everyone was on drugs. But when I would try to tell people this they wouldn't believe me because they wanted to preserve this view that their heroes would never do anything wrong. I find cheati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:57 PM |
| 2 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataI agree with you. I find that people generally ask for data when someone is making claims that disagree with their worldview, but rarely require or even offer data to validate their own beliefs. The disregard of thousands of anecdotes to me indicates that people don't generally care about data, they just want to throw up barrier after barrier to these ideas in an attempt to shut them down instead of meaningfully engaging with the premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:45 PM |
| 6 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataThey have and they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:42 PM |
| 8 | BPers believe TRP arguments are based on anecdote and can be dismissed, but A.) rarely use scientific studies to make decisions in their own lives and B.) disregard the immense number of these anecdotes on TRP which collectively ARE dataBluepillers usually take an equally unreasonable stance, which is that any man that asks you to stop being friends with an ex is abusive and controlling. Also, why pick this one single line of the entire post to respond to? It doesn't even come close to addressing the meat of the argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:35 PM |
| 3 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenWell, your opinion is wrong. The women who do this have all been college educated, would never be described as basic, are all thoughtful and philosophical and intelligent/feminist. Maybe one girl was somewhat basic, but definitely not stereotypically so. If you met these women you would never think they were capable of the type of things they did to people they (once cared about). And that's the problem. Redpill is right when it says AWALT, which IMO is not literal but something which means 'all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:07 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenHaha nothing some random guy on reddit can do is going to hurt my feelings. But keep trying if it makes you feel better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:04 PM |
| 3 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThis is a perfect example of why no one listens to bpers and nothing you say is convincing. Writing off everything as an outlier (ironically something redpill is terrible at) is not convincing to the people who have had these experiences. How do you know how many people cheat in relationships? Where would you get this data from? How accurate is it? What if someone doesn't get caught? Trying to have these conversations with people like you is like trying to get water from a stone, because you ref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:02 PM |
| 3 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenIt's one thing if it's just personal experiences, it's another if its thousands of men from all walks of life who have all had the same experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:54 PM |
| 3 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenWhat assumptions did I make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:53 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenThat's definitely not true. BPers constantly say 'these things don't happen' or 'what kind of people do you know?' in regard to statements on the nature of women or common bad behaviors in an attempt to downplay their frequency I think its fair to say models aren't rules (not evryone thinks they are) they don't hold with most people's experience - I think this may be false, and if it isn't it's still not convincing. Just because someone doesn't realized they've been fucked doesn't mean they have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:53 PM |
| 2 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI do think TRP is common to throw out the 'outlier' flag, I think there's not really a such thing as outliers except in certain extreme examples. It is one problem. But IMO that's on RP, and has nothing to do with RPs response. I don't think if RP was more charitable towards it changes anything. The point of my story is that I can point out dozens of times women act badly, and combined with other men's anecodtes these form a set of patterns and trends that causes the behavior to become predictiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI mean, just because something is anecdotal doesn't mean its worthless. For example the majority of startups are based off of anecdotal and non-empirical evidence in the beginning. Uber did not do a research paper that people hated the cab driving experience, AirBnB didn't do a study of 10K people to see if they were willing to sleep in a stranger's home. They had life experiences, and they realized that those life experiences could be extrapolated to millions of other people. By asking these qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:44 PM |
| 15 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI don't disagree, I think both sides can be correct, but bluepillers method of arguing will never convince anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:38 PM |
| 0 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?That's the opposite of trust. Trust is being completely open and honest. Hiding things and being secretive is not trustworthy. You don't understand risk, clearly. Risk exists in every situation whether you want to accept it or not. When I enter a vehicle, there is some risk we can be hit, or hit someone else. For that reason, I mitigate risk by driving defensively, wearing my seatbelt, and encouraging others to drive the speed limit. It doesn't matter if I have never been in an accident, I will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 12:49 AM |
| 3 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?OK, nobody cares about your definition of a fat ass as a black woman because we're talking about what men like. A concept women continually can't wrap their heads around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 11:25 PM |
| 0 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?Why would transparency be suspicious? Isn't that the opposite of suspicious? Insecurity is fear. What I am describing is risk mitigation. What you're describing is the equivalent of getting into a car with someone, and then calling them 'insecure' because they want to wear a seatbelt and drive the speed limit. Ignoring what your partner wants to mitigate risk is disrespectful and means you aren't ready for a real relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:54 PM |
| 0 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?Can you not read? The entire post is about Jason Derulo. The whole topic is about him. Are you OK? Jason Derulo is still going to be many times more desirable than the average man. Probably hundreds of times more desirable. Any other opinion you have on this is irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:51 PM |
| 5 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?You're just absolutely, unequivocally wrong and don't know anything about the gym. Here's an example of a purely gym made fat ass. Maybe you just mean fat women in general? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:48 PM |
| 1 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Thank you, it's been going great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit are generally extremely hypocritical when it comes to age gap relationshipsPPD is a debate sub, obviously there will be multiple conflicting points of view. Two X is not and widely accepted opinions float to the top. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Women on Reddit are generally extremely hypocritical when it comes to age gap relationshipsObviously the hypocrisy are these subs that equally hold both views supported by high vote counts. You would never see a post praising an age gap with older males on chromosome, in the same way you'd never see a bluepill post rise to the top of RedPill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:32 PM |
| 3 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?OK, so you're a moron who has no willingness to educate themselves or engage in discourse. Cool. See ya | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:23 PM |
| 3 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?A.) I'm married. B.) Tech bro is irrelevant. You could say the same about any high powered job like lawyer, CEO, doctor, etc. Usually the people at the top are the hardest, most dilligent, focused people with the best leadership. I mean you want a broke loser apparently so I dunno. Go for what makes you happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:22 PM |
| 4 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?So you're choosing to be ignorant about how the human body looks after the gym. Why? Because obviously, you don't actually know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:19 PM |
| 3 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?OK then I guess you want men who are poor, incapable, followers, that don't take care of themselves and have no plan for their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:18 PM |
| 6 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Yes. Did you go through the page? Or can you admit you are clueless on this subject? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:16 PM |
| 6 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Please shut the fuck up if you don't know what you are talking about. https://www.instagram.com/squatnova/?hl=en Find me a single ass on that page that is 'muscle bound' that any man wouldn't smash in a heartbeat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 08:15 PM |
| 3 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Uh no, that's not what I meant. What woman doesn't want a well off, capable, leader that takes care of themselves and has a plan for their lives? You guys are fucking insane lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 07:44 PM |
| 2 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Er, no. Usually its the opposite actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?What do you mean I brought him up? The post is literally about Jason Derulo. My point is that whether or not you want Jason Derulo doesn't change that other women do, and the fact that other women want him is what makes him high value. Your worthless opinions, are worthless. You need mental help, maybe get off the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:56 PM |
| 5 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?No I'm not, because I understand how the human body works. I've trained multiple women to get fat asses in the gym. Eat a high protein diet, squat heavy three times a week, and that's basically all there is to it. Why do people like you have such strong, stupid opinions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countI already explained this to you, so I'm not going to waste my time doing it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?- Girls trips - Going to the club - Having male friends - Keeping in touch with ex's - Posting revealing photos on social media - Wanting to keep phones private and so and so forth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:49 PM |
| 8 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Yes. The ass is the glueteus maximus, and all muscles grow through hypertrophy. Women who squat 3x a week have amazing asses. Combine that with a protein rich diet and they'll end up looking like wonder woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:48 PM |
| 6 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?Like I said, you're insane. Nothing you say about anything should be taken seriously if you're willing to look reality in the face and deny it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:44 PM |
| 6 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?So you think that most men who cheat are fucking other women the week after they start a new relationship? Stop being uncritical and actually use your brain. Cheating almost always happens over time, usually months or years into the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:09 PM |
| -1 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?Who cares what you like? What you like is not important, YOU are not important. Bezos' relationship was probably over long before his wife left. I'm not single. You're a joke. The point was that Jason Derulo is still high-value regardless of what some loser on Reddit who has no chance to even sniff his balls thinks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:37 PM |
| 0 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countComparison (noun) a consideration or estimate of the similarities or dissimilarities between two things or people. This didn't happen. I explained what I provided was an example, which you did not accept. Then you insulted me and I called you unintelligent, because you demonstrated stupidity. You got upset at the insult, which I called out that you insulted me first, which you denied, and were immediately proven wrong. Then you asked a pointless question about whether I'd be beaten by a broom or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:33 PM |
| 9 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?You're insane if you actually believe that. Chris Brown is a known abuser, do you honestly believe there aren't literally thousands of women who still want to marry him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:30 PM |
| 14 | If you magically woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex do you think you would easily get everything you are seeking in a partner?Absolutely. Dating as a woman is literally living life on recruit difficulty, but women are too stupid and spoiled by choice to make decent decisions. Step 1. Go to the gym until I'm in really good shape and have a big fat ass Step 2. Dress well Step 3. Hang around the Microsoft, Amazon, and Sillicon Valley hot spots and look for good looking men in management positions with some status that are the introverted type. Step 4. Ask them out Step 5. Repeat until I find a husband. My guess is it woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:28 PM |
| 13 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?So you think after cheating Jason Derulo still won't be highly desired and sought after? You bluepillers live in wackoville. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:18 PM |
| -3 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?Who cares what you would be involved with? Do you think Jason Derulo would ever, in a million years be interested in you? Do you think women much hotter, much more successful, and much more desirable than you will still be interested in Jason Derulo? WTF are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:17 PM |
| 10 | Should women expect cheating if they get into a relationship with a HVM (High value man)?Stupid advice. People cheat when they are incentivized to do so. If you create a space and incentive for cheating - such as freely letting your partner do suspicious and potentially disrespectful behaviors with no consequences, it's clear you don't have any ability to regulate your own relationship. For example, at startups there's something called a cliff. A cliff means you have to wait a year before equity begins to vest. This prevents bad behavior, like someone joining the company for 6 month… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:15 PM |
| 0 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countYou should be embarrassed by your performance. Try a different sub, debating is not your thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countDo you want to keep embarrassing yourself in this conversation, or are we done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:03 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countYou called me a troll and a weirdo. Those are both insults. If you don't care, then why did you ask? Depends on how often I'm being beaten by the broom handle. I'd take a beating or two over a lifetime of being legally tied to a whore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countI'm not obsessed. You made a nonsensical comment. I pointed it out. You refused to move on. You insulted me first, so an insult is all you deserve in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 08:55 PM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThat's not what a comparison is. The fact you're not intelligent enough to understand that doesn't make me a troll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countYou can prove that someone lost weight and has healthy eating habits. You can't prove someone is no longer a whore, and in fact women lie about it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 05:42 PM |
| 0 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThings change over time. Just because a situation today feels wrong or unfair, doesn't mean it should or will stay that way. At no point did I make a comparison. The word you're looking for is an 'example.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 05:41 PM |
| 0 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countUntil you start using the English language correctly, probably not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countSure, men can be whores. Whores is heavily negative, because being a whore is bad. It leaves you as a broken, damaged person usually with a history of sexual trauma and an unhealthy relationship with sex in general. I don't date fat women because they have an unhealthy relationship with food in the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countLike I said, you don't know what a comparison is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countWhores will naturally have more sex than average. That's why they are whores. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 06:04 AM |
| 1 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasAlso known as being treated the same way women treat men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 01:54 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countWhat do I care what men are crying about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countI didn't make a comparison. So, point proven I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countStop being trash or keep dealing with sluts and whores the rest of their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 01:21 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThat's based on men explicitly saying they would be OK with virgins. I am a man with experience. Most men in the West don't care about virginity, because they have forced to accept ridiculous feminist brain rot that has convinced people being a whore doesn't have any impact on your ability to be a faithful, loving partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countSomeone who has more sex partners than the average person. Just like being 'tall' is having more height than the average person. This isn't hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThat's great. Men should wait for women who have standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countWhy? I like eating junk food sometimes. It doesn't mean I want to eat it for dinner every ngiht because I understand it's unhealthy. You think this is unreasonable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countWhy do you have that phrase in quotes as if I said it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countI don't think you know what the word 'akin' means. Or what a comparison is, for that matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countI'm pretty sure there are more men who wants virgins that are sexually experienced than men who are virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 06:01 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countHow is what I said untrue based on your story? That man did not want a virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:56 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countReading comprehension was not your strong suit, clearly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countExactly what? Your statement means nothing and is based on nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countIt's not ridiculous to not want a whore. It has nothing to do with being nasty. Women lie because they don't want to be rejected, and that fear makes them insecure enough to lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:53 AM |
| 3 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countWhat do you mean 'it seems so?' Based on what do you say this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThe number of women lying about their body count is 100 of times higher than women who lie about being virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThat's not pathological. Whores are broken and unfit for relationships. They are great for sex. If men aren't asking about body count up front they are pussies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:49 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThey don't though. And it's far, far harder to fake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:47 AM |
| 3 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countIs that a fact? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:46 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countIt's not circular. If women didn't lie so much about their body count, which has meaning to men because men don't want whores, then there wouldn't be so much interest in virginity. Virginity only matters because women cannot be trusted not to lie about their whoreish behaviors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:45 AM |
| 3 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThanks. Can't say the same for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countWomen with high body counts are whores. It's subjective in the same way being tall is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countPast behavior indicates future behavior. Whores will always be whores. I don't want to marry a whore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countHey, women who didn't want to be beaten with a mop handle had to settle or stay single a hundred years ago. Things change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countThat is not what possessive means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countHuh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:18 AM |
| 3 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countDo you think I care what losers on reddit think about me? lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countI'm not single. Try again? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:16 AM |
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