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I love the skepticism. In a world of 'vibes' and 'just be yourself' advice, a something that isn't a numbers game sounds like a scam to anyone stuck in the 'Numbers Game' religion. Not surprising, most of the individuals calling "scam" here are probably the same guys stuck in a rut for 5 years but too stubborn to make a change . Once again, I have receipts. I’m not here to convince people who are comfortable with their current results. I’m here for the 1% who want to deal with their social data …
/r/seduction24/12/25 11:06 PM
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Desperation is usually just a symptom of having zero Mechanical Certainty. You’re guessing, failing, and then panicking. I’ve been there. I spent 3 years in that 'desperate' loop before I realized that social success is just Status Architecture. I need more details. What are you struggling with the most ?
/r/seduction24/12/25 05:59 PM
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What is your specific issue ?
/r/seduction24/12/25 05:34 PM
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Here is the framework for daygame in my opinion: use social intelligence. Learn how to make things happen while keeping everything under the "accidental" frame. If you have sex with her it was a combination of circumstances , it just happened. If you can master that you can open anytime anywhere. I got laid from opening in a crowded train once. I got an instant date from opening in an airport while waiting for my flight. You just become a menace lol.
/r/seduction22/11/25 03:49 AM
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Yup went through the same thing. Had to record myself approaching hotties then I had a more experienced guy break down the mistakes I was making. Just being insecure and overdoing things . Feeling resentment from last rejections. We pointed out everything and fixed the whole approach. Within 24 hours I had a hottie in my bed. In my personal opinion you need to go through 2 phases : Learn how to have sex with average women to the point where it's not a struggle anymore. Then act " normal " around…
/r/seduction22/11/25 03:48 AM
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The best way to get over a breakup lilejrhay is to develop competence and accumulate experience. There is nothing that resets your brain like being able to walk outside and get a date on the spot. Online dating can't do that for you. Because your brain knows there is no merit to getting girls from the apps. On the other hand when you walk up to a stranger and toi convince her to leave whatever she was doing to go on a date with toi on the spot you get confidence boost like nothing else. Get out …
/r/seduction11/11/25 03:28 PM
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I got one solid piece of advice: get off the apps.
/r/seduction11/11/25 03:28 PM
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I read a bunch of books and watched a lot of YouTube videos on the topic. Nothing really helped more than having someone more experienced break it down for me . So I can't really honestly point you to any resources to learn from, but I do record myself approachong and taking women on dates in various daygame scenarios. So maybe I can share some of the footage I have and it will give you an idea of what to do with the right timing and the right context? Let me know in private.
/r/seduction11/11/25 03:27 PM
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Started years ago . Had a catastrophic break up I high school that left me crippling with approach anxiety. Then discovered pick up. Tried for two three years to approach, resulting in hit or miss scenarios, often walking around doing nothing and so on. So got nothing besides a couple of drunk kisses in night game. Finally figured out what I was doing wrong last year and this has been the best year of my life so far. Better job, moved to another country, got intimate with 17 new women , all from…
/r/seduction11/11/25 03:26 PM
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When you get a lot of failed dates it's either: 1. Something wrong with your vibe: fashion, grooming, non verbals A lack of planning : just hanging out and going with the flow is not a good strategy to convert a date into something meaningful. You need to be as planned as possible. Lack of sexuality and dominance. Lack of boundaries aka "too nice".
/r/seduction27/10/25 08:17 PM
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I have definitely had some instances where the girl isn't responsive in the beginning but I'm able to turn it around. Matter of fact I have footage of a woman at the airport who is resisting at first, but I'm able to flip things around and take her on a date on the spot. Happened to me several times but that's the one I have on video. Lmk if you want to see it in private to see how it's done.
/r/seduction27/10/25 08:16 PM
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I would definitely advise you to go on a regular date first. One because it's a more solid game plan, and two because she is a coworker, you need to test the waters . Good luck 🤞
/r/seduction27/10/25 08:15 PM
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Miami New York Florianapolis Barcelona Roma Paris. But honestly if your game ks on point you don't need to go anywhere. What would you say is your main challenge right now when it comes to game?
/r/seduction27/10/25 08:14 PM
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Your mistake was letting her drag you to her friends. It's very tricky to seduce a woman in the middle of her friends: 1. Not sure if they will like or respect you 2. You don't know if they are not trying to set the girl with their own guy friends 3. Now instead of gaming one woman you have to game her whole group. If you're struggling to close women by themselves, definitely stay away from group situations, especially on the second date . Should have cancelled then rescheduled one on one . She …
/r/seduction27/10/25 08:10 PM
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I pm'ed you.
/r/seduction26/10/25 09:52 AM
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How is it going? Hit me up if you want to see some footage of me taking girls on dates from cold approach. Or taking them straight home. From start to finish. I'm always happy to hear external opinions. You can see what vibe I use and what kind of things I do/say and when .
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:23 PM
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Agreed. The apps never worked for me. And I used to suck at cold approach, tried for 2 years with no results, was still a virgin. Thankfully I'm doing better now. This has been the best year of my life and I'm extremely grateful for it. I'm regularly getting dates and lay's on the spot almost exclusively from daygame. I recently started recording myself. You're welcome to watch the footage and tell me what you think.This is my way to give back, something I wish someone did for me when I was stru…
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:22 PM
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Don't underestimate it . You're doing nothing wrong but if you don't react to this the right way you will lose attraction . 1. Ask the girl: " do you know him? " While smiling like he's weird 2. If she says no get out from under him, grab her hand and say come withbme i want to show you something and just walk away with her . Stay calm and collected, with a sole on your face . Do NOT get pissed off. Once you're alone again with her just say " people are weird" laugh it off and keep the conversat…
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:20 PM
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Yeah , there is a 60% chance that you blew this up. I am curious: since toi say you wanted to practice with her, why have you not tried to practice on other women? Strangers especially are really good if you want to make quick progress without consequences.
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:19 PM
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Yeah , there is a 60% chance that you blew this up. I am curious: since toi say you wanted to practice with her, why have you not tried to practice on other women? Strangers especially are really good if you want to make quick progress without consequences.
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:18 PM
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Hello, Sounds like you're actually putting yourself out there and trying. I was a virgin until last year, so I can relate quite a bit. I know how it can eat your from the inside . Now picture my poor self going out and trying to get rid of my virginity for two long years with no results. It's much better now , thankfully. I recently started recording myself approaching and taking strangers on dates on the spot . Let me know if you want to see the footage . Might inspire toi to ger out there a bi…
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:17 PM
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I wouldn't advise relying on looks. fashion and body language actually are actually responsible for what most guys think looks is doing. It's also a pretty mainstream" fast food ideology". It's a quick oseudo response to a problem that's way more complex than " just be good looking , tall and rich bro". If you're getting kisses that go nowhere you're effectively relying too much on your looks and you already know what it got you . Looking even better won't help .
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:16 PM
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Agreed. 1. Knowing what to do and say 2. Emotional intelligence 3. Personal charisma/expressiveness/emoting 4. Fashion These things have way more weight then looks.
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:15 PM
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It might help...but it's also a bit weird.
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:15 PM
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Those are valid points. I still think that when it comes to execution, nothing beats having technical knowledge and practice of the steps from hi to Intimacy. Social intelligence is major too.
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:06 PM
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Not exactly. You talk to her in the group setting then you nudge the situation towards being one on one. Find an excuse to move her on the spot, or make plans for another time but only you and her . I recently started recording myself approaching strangers and taking them on dates on the spot . This might maybe help you see what kind of vibe works, and what kind of things to do and say to navigate those kind of situations and move her to another spot . Let me know if you want to watch it.
/r/seduction20/10/25 05:53 PM
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You give them too much too early. If the night is still young and: - she's there to have fun - she already knows for sure that you like her - She already knows for sure that if she takes you home you will try to have sex. Then she will lose interest . She will put you in a corner of her head as a "last option" then she will move on with her night . One of the ways to avoid that is to not stay long the first time you talk to a group. 2 to five minutes max then move to another group. Then come bac…
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:43 PM
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You're making it harder for yourself. Isolate the girl then game her one on one. Easier to escalate that way .
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:40 PM
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I actually started recording myself approaching and taking girls on dates. In some.of those clips you can see everything from the warm up to the proper approach, to the game itself, to me taking her on a date on the spot . It's better to show than write about it I think. It will give you a clear idea of what to do/say, how, and when . Dm me i will share some of those clips in private.
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:38 PM
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I usually start things with a neutral approach, then I nudge them towards a flirty tone. When they comply I ask them on a date . I actually started recording myself on the Rayban metas so i have a few clips showing from the moment I approach to the movement I take these girls on dates.this could give you a sense of the vibe /energy that works well as well as what to do and say and when. Hit me up if you want me to share the footage.
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:37 PM
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Experience. Tried and tested strategies. If you combine talking to a lot of women with friend and tested strategies that give toi positive feedback, you cément in your brain that approaching= positive response. So your confidence grows.
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:36 PM
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In those situations the opener should be so seamless thaybit almost doesn't matter what you say ' as long as it's innocuous and neutral you're fine. The most impactful part is the transition and the things you say right after . The conversation structure. Using her keywords to build emotional commitment. Your non verbals . Using your environment and social proof to build familiarity. All those things matter more than what you say in the beginning.
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:34 PM
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Anything that's fun to you . Contrary to daygame, in nightgame you can be more fun socially. The rules are less strict: " How tall are you?"..." Yeah that's not good enough :/ Hope you can cook at least ;)" " Sorry I'm late how is your night going?" " Shit I didn't text you back...I'm sorry I lost my phone and my neighbours cat died, rough week :/ Will make it up to you...do you like candy?" Don't say anything just give her the middle finger with a grin on your face ( I actually have a footage o…
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:33 PM
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Numbers game is not real. It's a fallacy . It just means your process is inefficient. A solid average should be one lay out of 5 girls you talk to in night game and one out of 8 In daygame. Less than that and your system is leaking . Issue is everyone is using the same tactics these days. Everyone starts with a compliment or an observation, than builds rapport, then tries to escalate at random points with random gestures. So yeah you will go through huge numbers if you do that . Doesn't mean tha…
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:30 PM
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More or less yeah. Then if she really has to go, depending on how far along I am in the structure I will either plan the next date or let her go. Not every woman deserves a shot .
/r/seduction20/09/25 10:38 AM
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Mindset is usually along the lines of:" Most women will sleep with me within a couple of hours , let's see if she's the exception". It usually does a couple of good things: Releases pressure because I'm not trying to perform, and I'm not trying to get her to like me. I'm trying to filter her out by getting her through the structure. The structure pills her on but the mindset pushes her away . Puts you above her . Maintains the frame. In subtlest ways she now has to prove herself to you, and she …
/r/seduction19/09/25 07:33 AM
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Thanks dude , I appreciate the kind words. In general I learned to ignore the politics and irrational arguments and focus on the game. Even my mentor o didn't pick him based on popularity or YouTube videos or anything bloke that . He's a monster at this stuff but no one knows about him . He's 'ever on these forums. On the approach I do what he calls the "accidental approach". It's similar to indirect approach but it's a bit more planned . It starts BEFORE you even talk to her . It includes body …
/r/seduction19/09/25 07:33 AM
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Consider a couple of things: 1. Infield calibration often gives me "signals". If I perceive some cues instinctively my instincts go off. So I will do something riskier of I sense there is that opening. If it goes through it's not that "intense". Any escalation she accepts will work to my advantage in Daygame. Even if I have to dial down later and connect more .
/r/seduction19/09/25 07:33 AM
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Moving through résistance does not mean forcing her . It's about persuasion, moxie. Why are we learning and practicing game if we can't seduce a woman that's resisting a little?
/r/seduction19/09/25 07:33 AM
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From what I'm reading you are focused on the apps. I have no clue how to date on the apps because I left that stuff years ago. But when it comes to cold approach I know a thing or two . I think the first step before you focus on anything else should be to get rid of approach anxiety. It can be an insidious feeling that will cause friction and slow down your results along the way . So get rid of it first . Then learn how to connect with strangers. It took me two months more or less to get good en…
/r/seduction24/07/25 12:18 AM
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Learn how to connect organically with people in your daily life. Its more a matter of skill than location. Once you get the skill you can get a date pretty much anywhere.
/r/seduction19/07/25 01:01 AM
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That's social circles for you. A lot of backstabbing going on . Focus on connecting and making friends with the women. Ignore the guys . The more you have female friends in your university the more power you get. I'm not saying befriend everyone but try to have at least ten female friends that you are friendly and flirty with but too won't hook up with. Make sure they are leaders as in they have other girls following them. Invite them out to events or even things you would do daily: lunch, watch…
/r/seduction19/07/25 01:00 AM
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This is the difference between someone who practices the game, and someone who sits and thinks about it . If it's a script, every contingency is thought of, it's not a "web of lies". Also in the real world in my experience they never ask about my friend, and in the rare cases that they do I just say they are being late/stuck at work. Think about it like this : let's say you get invited to an event and you don't want to go. You would probably make up an excuse saying you are sick or you have some…
/r/seduction13/07/25 06:50 AM
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No clue what a parkrun race is, but if she was sitting it's the sitting situation out of the 4: 1. Walk over to her phone in hand 2. Ask her some information related to a friend you're supposedly texting,and she just happened to be right there when you needed the info so you asked her . 3. Notice something about her when you respond 4. Tell her you're in a rush but you have a quick question before you go , then sit next to her 5. Talk for a bit then stand again looking at your phone like you're …
/r/seduction12/07/25 12:33 PM
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I don't really agree with this . I have pretty decent success with women but I still want female validation from time to time . I had sex with 8 new women in a month and I still wanted more . There is this fallacy that guys have where they think to get women you need to be perfect, you don't. You just need two things: 1. Know what you're doing 2. be better at seducing her than most guys she has met in her life.
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:45 PM
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I had traumatic experiences in high school including female rejection and even police intervention, so for years I was legitimately terrified of talking to women. And for good reasons. With the right guidance it took me a few days to get rid of my social anxiety. I'm unstoppable now, even got z couple lf lays from talking to women in a crowded silent train . Doesn't affect me whatsoever. The strongest influence on the human brain is the force of habit. By taking a new habit you can basically for…
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:44 PM
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Limiting beliefs can feel paralysing. You just feel like there is no point , you're scared, you're mentally exhausted, anytime you try approaching or doing anything risky you freeze , and you have told yourself that it will just not happen for you because it makes you feel better and just more safe. I know that it sounds like magic or too good to be true but when they say attraction overcomes everything they mean it . I went from a virgin to having sex with 8 'ew women in a month, women blowing …
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:44 PM
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I was in a similar situation so I don't think your lack of results comes from the things that you mentioned. My issues where fixed when I learned how to connect with these women . And that connection starts with the way that you approach. From the way that you're describing those things I would diagnose that you're approaching in a direct way , using compliments, which might be a mistake looking at the results it gets you . You're right in that you should stop collecting numbers. Try getting dat…
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:41 PM
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This is why I love the Indirect approach. If you open any romance book or watch any romance movie, most of the time the woman and the guy she falls in love with start talking accidentally. In the more toxic cases they are even a bit at odds or hate each other. Then they get to build rapport by accident and they find out they actually like each other . This is designed that way because it somewhat matches the common female fantasy for a few thousands of years already. The indirect approach matche…
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:38 PM
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Let me be honest: zero point. If you do game properly the sheer amount of leads you have doesn't even leave you any free time to entertain "friends". I have women I'm having sex with blowing up my phone to meet up , why would I make up some time to meet with a woman I'm not sleeping with? The truth is women toi sleep with provide friendship too, they introduce you to friends, if you know how to design the relationship they will even bring you other girls, give you access to things, invite you to…
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:35 PM
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I know that feeling, it used to linger for days after my failures . But then a more experienced guy told me something:" seducers avoid rejection, masters learn how to overcome it ". Since he explained to me that in order for him to get results very fast he was often triggering rejection on purpose just so he could overcome it and hit an animalistic level of attraction in her using that shortcut . I started seeing rejection as my friend, and as a teacher . Its quite simple really: do you think a …
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:33 PM
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There are indeed situations where it seems very hard or almost impossible to approach a certain woman, but those situations in real life are also extremely rare . Since I lost my virginity last year, I have learned that most women are approachable, anytime , anywhere. I remember thinking people in the train were too socially conscious and I didn't want to disturb them, but then again I had sex with a couple of women that I opened in a crowded train in the middle of people. Its definitely tough s…
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:30 PM
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I'm curious what makes you so convinced that looks have the impact you think they have in dating as a man? Because in my experience the best womanizers I have ever met were ugly or average looking. The guy who taught le game dates only model looking women but looks like an overweight ninja turtle. The more experience I get the more I'm convinced looks, money and status are just excuses the mainstream have to avoid going into the complexities of what really constitutes attraction. Its so much eas…
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:28 PM
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Get emotional investment Use that emotional investment as a "currency" to progressively trade sexual energy with her , in your words and actions. Have clear steps laid out in advance to do so . Take care of your logistics. You should already have different possible locations on where you could take her to have sex . Also have strategies in place to overcome her logical OR emotional objections . The topic is wide , but also deep so feel free to DM if you have questions.
/r/seduction06/07/25 01:08 PM
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Has to be a balance. The mindset is only going for women who are receptive to you . But on the technical side there is a specific process in order to truly check if she's actually interested in you or not . - you could give her 5 minutes to stop trying to walk away - 15 minutes to reach the hook point. - you only try to escalate three time in a row , not more . If she doesn't comply you let her go. So on and so forth. Have your limits but do t give up too easily. Its tricky on paper but with pra…
/r/seduction06/07/25 01:07 PM
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There has to be a balance. Don't chase, pursue . Have a clear list of things that you will do, when and how. Also have a lost of things that you will NOT do. As long as you have clear internal boundaries you're fine .
/r/seduction06/07/25 01:06 PM
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One of those is the approach. I know it's widely recommended and accepted on these forums to approach a stranger with a compliment or by stating that you're interested. But I did that for two years and it brought me zero results. In comparison when I started building a more indirect story as to why I was talking to those women , I started getting dates on the spot within a week. I had two dates in one afternoon after just one week of going more "indirect". But contrary to the "indirect approach"…
/r/seduction28/06/25 03:38 AM
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Its a bit deeper than "just do it". I struggled with approach anxiety for years and I was only able to completely get rid of it during the last year. A few things that helped me: I found my comfort zone and stretched it progressively I made sur to constanrly pish myself whenever I went out to socialise. Even just a little bit .Don't get comfortable I til you're able to talk to 80% of the people you want to talk to . it helped that I was using strategies that actually resulted in positive feedbac…
/r/seduction27/06/25 11:11 PM
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I mostly approach in public places. Streets, coffee shops, metro stations, grocery stores, malls. Basically whenever I see a woman I find attractive. Once you get competent doing that other environments like bars and clubs , or social circle events become easy . I have found that if you're able to seduce a stranger, it's really easy to get a friend of a friend, so I have found no downsides to it . Also the charisma that you develop learning that stuff carries on to your relationships, you just g…
/r/seduction26/06/25 05:36 AM
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This post reminds me of a 46 years old guy that I know who is mostly banging women in their twenties. From what I observed talking to him he's just owning it and is fully unapologetic. Met him through the same mentor we both have so we regularly joke around about the ridiculous limitations men out on themselves voluntarily. As a man you were born with the gift of being able to get any woman that you want but you had to go ahead and start putting the blame on your height, your looks, your bank ac…
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:27 PM
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That woman sounds reasonable to me. Get better friends. Stop relying on friends to get laid .
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:21 PM
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It depends on strategy. Before when I used to go direct I did hundreds of approaches and I was still a virgin. Now that my opening sequence is more sophisticated, and I know how to progressively escalate,I would say it takes me 2-3 approaches to get a date , and I get laid 50% of the time minimum on dates. I feel like most guys use the same methods which is why the vast majority is playing znulbers gmae .you will often hear guys talk about one lay on 40 approaches which is ridiculous.
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:21 PM
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Make sure you have a minimum base of rapport in place . She should be at least ok to hug you back if you hug her for example. Verbally: make sexual remarks or compliments in a progressive way . Start relatively innocent and keep going up as long as she is receptive to it . Physically, think in order : Arms and shoulders Face and neck Torso and legs Intimate parts Touching her in that order, you should be safe , but at the same time impactful. Feel free to reach out if you have questions. I escal…
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:19 PM
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The funny thing is once you get over your approach anxiety, rejection is rare . Assuming you know how to initiate conversations properly ( narrative+ body language) you almost never get rejected. I get a couple of "rejections" per week and it's usually just women returning like they didn't hear me. Once you get experienced toi will see that fear of rejection is mostly scenarios built in your head .
/r/seduction25/06/25 09:18 PM
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Great initiative overall. How do you usually approach these women?
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:09 PM
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To me the idea of traveling to another country to become more attractive is just so far fetched. There are men in your current environment that are shorter, uglier , broker , chubbier than you and getting attractive women . If you have approached 200 women with nothing to show for it, isn't it safe to say that your strategy is wrong? Because I could get a date every day if I wanted to, and it's not to brag because I'm not especially good looking (my teeth are crooked) , rich or tall. I just acce…
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:07 PM
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It's a bit more subtle than that . - as a beginner, your job is to find out who you are, what you like, and strictly abide by it . You can't be flexible because you lack the experience and the context clues to know when , why and how . So it's your way or the highway. - as an intermediate you learn how to work with women who already like you . If she's into you , you know how to close the deal even if she is testing you a bit here and there . You can adapt a bit to her attempts to make yourself …
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:03 PM
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100% being flirty . Guys overestimate the importance of laughter and fun. Yes it is attractive but by itself it will get you in the friendzone, or worse , the "brother zone". It's statisticallylre efficient to know how to progressively inject sex into the conversation. Matter of fact if a guy masters the art of sexualising things , he can pretty much seduce any woman anytime anywhere.
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:01 PM
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Great question actually. There are several levels to this. For someone who used to deal with anxiety, having a system that is too complex will be too much of a mental effort . You need to start simple. I learned how to connect with strangers and the easiest way for me to maintain a conversation while dealing with my nervousness was the comment+ question format . The more talkative the woman was, the shorter ly comment. The less talkative she was, the longer my comment. As long as I am sharing my…
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:00 PM
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I think it's really on a case to case basis . Chat me up if you want more info . I'm happy to help .
/r/seduction20/06/25 06:38 AM
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Its deeper than the two seconds rule. For anyone dealing with anxiety, it's about finding your comfort zone then progressively expanding it . This brings up two main issues: 1. Every guy has a different speed of implementation, you can't apply exposure at the same rate to every guy 2. The same drills and exercises can't apply to just everyone in the same order . It took me a few days of being helped by someone more experienced to get rid of my anxiety. Now I'm pretty much limitless: I could talk…
/r/seduction20/06/25 12:08 AM
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Learn how to approach and connect with strangers. It solved all my dating issues. Went from being a virgin last year to turning down relationship proposals. Yesterday a girl asked me to move in with her lol. it's not an easy thing to learn. But the character you build and the social intelligence you acquire when you do so puts you in a league of its own. You just stand out like a rarity . I think this is the ultimate solution: Learning how to connect with strangers Learning how to go from a neut…
/r/seduction19/06/25 11:57 PM
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" I usually do pretty well with girls but I don't know how to take her to her place ". No he doesn't. It's sad .
/r/seduction15/03/25 03:03 PM
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Some of those guys have mental issues. Approach anxiety after 15 years? And you don't seek help?
/r/seduction15/03/25 03:03 PM
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I agree . How is your cold approach going so far and what has been your main challenge while doing it ?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:21 AM
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Interesting. What would you say has been your main obstacle to improving your cold approach?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:21 AM
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Same here: how is it going so far?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:21 AM
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I personally do cold approach as well. You say you're still struggling. What is the main thing that stops you from reaching your goals?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:20 AM
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That question is always amusing and fascinating to me . To this day it baffles me that there are cute women who are walking the streets, coffee shops, malls, restaurants with free access, that anyone can talk to, and guys are still struggling to date . I observe a few things: The general advice on how to approach women in public is sub par, so a lot of guys try it and think it doesn't work, or it's a "numbers game" when in reality they just don't know how to do it . Most guys are not really moti…
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:20 AM
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At some level, everything in seduction is skill dependent. So I will ask: do you usually get girls to fall for you or to comply in an aggressive way? Like special favours? Gifts? Do they pay for your dates? If not you might not be able to pull this off. You would have to review your game to see what's lacking.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:18 AM
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This is how you deal with this : 1." Introduce le to your friend, that's the polite thing to do" Talk to her friend immediately and distract her for a bit . go back to the girl you were vibibmng with. Move her around if possible.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:17 AM
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The issue here is clearly your social environment. Stop listening to women!!! They will say the things then fall for the aggressive guy. You need to get out there a d test things for yourself. Do your own approaches and see what happens. Is there a place near you where you can practice approaching attractive women?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:10 AM
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To me it was pretty simple: stopped listening to random guys advice on the net and got myself a proper mentor. I was scared of being scammed because a lot of guys are shady, but I got proposed a free trial and took it. Changed my whole life: from women , to money, to job opportunities,to family issues, he gives me advice on everything. Not only do I get dates from talking to random girls in public places,I'm about to relocate to another country to start a new life.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:09 AM
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I could give you a few challenges but they probably won't work. It's an interactive process and it's best for e under the guidance of someone experienced. Plus if there are deeper issues with your belief or traumatic experiences you need to have deeper work done under guidance of an expert . I know because I was suicidal and I had traumatic issues from girls accusing me of harassment. But it's over now. I'm cured I can approach a d find dates anytime I get outside of the house.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:09 AM
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From what I read I can guess that you have more of a "direct" approach when doing cold approach. If you try the same thing in social circles guys will get defensive and stab you in the back. I personally dislike social circles but if you want to do good in them you need to learn a more step by step, indirect approach.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:08 AM
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You need to review your game . It's clearly lacking.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:07 AM
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A lot of successful escalation comes down to two factors : Being able to tell where you stand and Being progressive. If you can neither read the situation, not having a step by step method of escalating not only verbally but also physically you will be spinning in place. Guys think it's natural instinctive thing. When approaching a stranger it's not. It has to be calculated. It's actually pretty easy when you get a hold of it .
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:06 AM
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I am not going to lie, if you don't have the proper guidance, you will struggle. I wasted 2 years trying to do this by myself, but since last year I got proper guidance, I'm better. Overcomed my anxiety. Lost my virginity to some random girl I took home from the street in two hours , and I can get a date pretty much anytime that I want to. Is your main issue anxiety or is it not knowing what Todo ? Because both issues are similar.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:05 AM
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Had a similar issue last year, was getting rejected left and right. But it's way better now,lost my virginity to some random woman I met in the street and took home in 3 hours. I can also get dates pretty much any time I want to. There is a lot to say but in short I had to get a mentor and learn how to: Find the women I wanted Start conversations in a smooth way Generate emotional impact Sexualize, connect and take her home/on a date Also feel free to DM me so I can give you details, I get lost …
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:04 AM
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I would say ok a closed space like a bus it's better to go with a very indirect approach, then navigate to create a connection. Otherwise she might feel constrained and trapped , which will result in you not being able to reach basic social reciprocity.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:04 AM
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Would need more info on how you met and what happened, but I would already tell you that an evening dare is better than a lunch date if you plan to get sexual. Also on the phone I usually prefer to keep it simple and focus on meeting up in person. Depending on how long you have until the date . So how was the date ?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:03 AM
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Check DMs
/r/seduction05/03/25 01:39 PM
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The first things that come to mind is the "numbers game" rhetoric and the "direct " approach . Those two make you start in the wrong position. Good game doesn't require huge numbers. And approaching direct all the time will lead to a lot of rejections. A woman being polite doesn't mean that the way you approached was right. To be honest to crack the code I had to get advice from an experienced guy . I had to get a mentor and I'm glad I did because you don't know what you don't know. If you don't…
/r/seduction02/03/25 12:08 PM
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Check DMs.
/r/seduction01/03/25 01:17 AM
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Check DMs.
/r/seduction28/02/25 01:37 PM
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Check DMs
/r/seduction28/02/25 01:29 PM
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Your first issue is sticking to girls toi are surrounded with . Why not learn how to talk to strangers? I'm in a phase of my life where I'm focused on work and busy , so the easiest way for me to meet women is to walk outside , talk to a stranger and take her on a date when I have a bit of time . It's that simple.. No matter how much time I have, I learned the skill so I can just talk to any woman I want, anytime, anywhere. To me this is ultimate freedom and way better than the apps. How do you …
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:15 AM
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I relate so much to this . I almost gave up, it was frustrating . I was doing everything people were advising me on the forums approaching a shit load of women and I was still a virgin. But I will tell you something that my mentor told me last year that changed my life: Most of the advice about this is garbage . Most of the people who tall about game online are biased or have no clue what they're talking about . That's why so many guys give up. There is only so much you can do when your methodol…
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:15 AM
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Valid issue . I overcame my anxiety in a couple of weeks last year, and it hasn't been back since, except z few nervous moments that I just push aside like an afterthought. Bearing approach anxiety is about having a plan , and using progressive framing. What have you tried so far to deal with this?
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:13 AM
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Both of those are not reasons . I know plenty of guys who are autistic but who are crushing it. When it comes to look, it's not about your genetics but abot your vibe and how you present yourself.
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:13 AM
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Valid issue . I overcame my anxiety in a couple of weeks last year, and it hasn't been back since, except z few nervous moments that I just push aside like an afterthought. Bearing approach anxiety is about having a plan , and using progressive framing. What have you tried so far to deal with this?
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:12 AM
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This is a valid point, and an issue you will share with lost beginners trying to approach a girl in public places . Here are a few things that made me overcome this : First I had to understand that fear of the approach or approach anxiety is not about logic. I can try to convince myself logically all day that it doesn't matter, it won't help under I increase my exposure progressively. So exposure> logic . Most guys waste time trying to convince themselves it's ok to approach. Whenever I faces a …
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:12 AM
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Amazing mate!! I don't even know you but I feel so proud!! So many guys here complain but never take any type of action. This should be inspiring for them!! Your situation is similar to mine. I am very busy and I have plans for my future so cold approach during the day was the only way . Now I can get done with work and just walk into the street , see a woman I like and get her on a date. This is the dream life as far as I'm concerned!! When I read people talk about the apps that seems painful t…
/r/seduction27/02/25 09:18 PM
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Congratulations mate! The first step is the most important! Im curious : what have you done so far to deal with your approach anxiety?
/r/seduction27/02/25 09:16 PM
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A couple of things: Start going out alone: it will build your character, resilience, courage, charisma and resourcefulness. Highly recommended. This is the type of exposure that turns the average man into a leader . I have no issues going out alone , you just need to have a good story to tell when people ask you . Learn cold approach during the day : I have a busy schedule and I don't enjoy going to bars that much . So what I usually do is before or after work I go to a crowded place with lots o…
/r/seduction27/02/25 09:15 PM
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Reading women is useful , but not as a beginner. Why? Because it will put you in a reactive state of mind . Very hard to juggle tour anxiety , remembering what to do or say ,and maintaining a basic reading of the situation already. You can't add an in depth reading of cues . Especially not before approaching because it will put otibin your head . A better way to do things is to approach first then deal with her reactions. This builds courage, character, and social intelligence. At some point you…
/r/seduction27/02/25 09:14 PM
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Hello mate, It's a amazing how much I recognise myself in what you write... I cracked the code for cold approach last year, especially daytime gold approach, and with my busy schedule , it gives me ultimate freedom. So I can relate. Can just go out anytime anywhere and meet strangers in the most organic way . Too bad most of the advice on cod approach is so bad on the internet. But that's another discussion. Regarding your issue my mentor often talks about progressive framing as a way of designi…
/r/seduction27/02/25 09:13 PM
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There is a secret: if you know what makes a man interesting to women, you can emulate these qualities and integrate them into your life . Only issue is that most people don't really know. Even those guys on seduction foruli don't know .
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:39 PM
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None of the above . Get a decent flat not too far from a crowded mall or shopping street, then learn daygame. Best combo ever. I learned proper daygame last year and I could legit get one date every day if I had enough time. I also paid for this coach to teach me after I struggled by myself and it was the best investment I ever made . Lost my virginity in 3 hours to a random girl in the street, she took me on a trip for 10 days in Italy, and since then I have been stacking up dates . I have been…
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:38 PM
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Amazing mate ! I'm happy to see there are still some guys out there taking action and making things happening instead of complaining. I only do daygame, that's how I lost my virginity and that's how I'm getting dates every week ,so I can relate. But be careful , I wasted 2 years of my life listening to bullshit advice on these forums before I finally found someone who gave me legit game . A lot of the techniques and strategies guys use don't work . I'm curious: currently, what is your biggest ch…
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:54 PM
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Given that you look decent, it has to be your vibe and the way you approach. I have to warn you about some of the advice you will find on these forums.s I wasted 2 years doing the "direct" approach with no results for example, so if you're doing that, stop it. No matter what people say here it doesn't work for most men. I was lucky I stumbled into this more experienced guy randomly and he showed me another way: I lost my virginity in 3 hours doing daygame and I'm now racking up dates . Almost ev…
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:52 PM
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First off all congratulations for approaching ! For a lot of guys that in itself is an achievement! So glad to hear you could take action. The first thing I would tell you is: don't take Instagram. There are so many reasons why taking Instagram is a bad idea when it comes to game . The main being that she might see something on your profile that she doesn't like and it's done . Not to add that if you meet her in person, then you go on Instagram, you are regressing. You went from being one on one…
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:48 PM
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There is something wrong. I need more details in order to help you . Where do you meet those girls? Where do you go? How old are you? How tall? Do you get "creepy" comments from women? Also feel free to DM me I might miss your reply here .
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:48 PM
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Hello mate. It's quite simple: if you KNOW what to do and when to do it, the fear goes away. The issue is a lot of the advice you find on these forums is mediocre. I know because I wasted 2 years of my life struggling trying to use that stuff . Only a select few people actually give good advice. I was lucky because I was willing to try anything that made sense and when I met my mentor he had proof of results so I tried his way . I lost my do daygame. Before last year I couldn't get girls to talk…
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:47 PM
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There definitely is. Especially for daygame for example. I had to break down my goals in a few weeks, then a few months. It was necessary for the skill to stay solid on the long term. There is something in psychology called progressive framing. It helps to game women, but it can also use it to learn game yourself. I took : 2 weeks to desenticize Another week to learn to approach properly Another week to learn how to maintain a conversation Another week to learn how to get her emotions up. And so…
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:46 PM
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Check your DMS.
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:43 PM
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Hello mate I overcame this issue last year one and for all but I don't want to share my method on a public forum, I'm jealous of it . DM me if you want to hear more ( I'm not a coach I don't sell anything).
/r/seduction23/02/25 08:03 AM
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Hello. Chan ces are that she wants an excuse to get loose, so she is asking for the both of you to drink. It's the best scenario and excuse to hook up . No need to maintain a conversation. Be playful, dance with her and use dancing to see how far you can go and see if you can kiss her . As soon as you kiss take her home. Also let me know how it goes , either her or in the DMs if you don't want to share private details.
/r/seduction23/02/25 07:53 AM
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Berlin is great to meet a tons of women. What are things you are currently doing to meet women there? Use me as an accountability officer :)
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:31 PM
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Great goals! Have you tried anything so far to reach these goals?
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:31 PM
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Alright. I'm good to DM you . Can keep up with all the threads but it think I can help you. I did so much work on my confidence last year.
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:08 PM
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I can't keep up with all the threads. I will DM you.
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:07 PM
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Why in a year? The best time to start is always now
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:07 PM
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Great goals. Just wondering what method you are currently using when approaching these women? And do you feel like you are progressing fast enough ?
/r/seduction21/02/25 08:12 AM
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Very self aware and detailed answer . Props for being out there and making moves . Something tells me you have the potential to crush it. What material do you currently use to learn social skills?
/r/seduction21/02/25 08:12 AM
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That's a great state of mind t be in! I was in your position last year. Let me DM you I can help you for sure .
/r/seduction21/02/25 08:11 AM
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Amazing! What do you plan to do to work on your confidence? And what materials do you plan to use for learning?
/r/seduction21/02/25 08:11 AM
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it is indeed the most safe way but I'm not sure if it's the most productive. Let me DM you I think I can help.
/r/seduction21/02/25 08:11 AM
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A lot of guys underestimate themselves when it comes to potential. You will never really know unless you try the right method. A lot of times failure is only about having the wrong information. What method you tried so far when it comes to dating?
/r/seduction21/02/25 08:10 AM
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Amazing . I would say you seem to relatively know what you want . What have you done so far to improve your interactions? And what resources have you learned from?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:19 PM
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moving on is always the best course of action after a failed relationship. What have you done so far to reach your new goals? And what materials or resources have you used?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:18 PM
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That's a crazy thing to say...please do share why you feel this way . We care
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:18 PM
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Define love in your own words . What kind of girl are you looking for?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:22 AM
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I'm curious why would you think it can't happen for you ?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:22 AM
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Yes this is the most daunting part when you're starting, I was in your situation last year. What method are you currently using to reach your goal?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:22 AM
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Interesting goal, any specific method you're doing to get there?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:22 AM
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Hello, what have you done so far to get that first date? And what method or ressources have you used ?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:20 AM
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That's a noble goal...what have you done so far to achieve that ? And what material or ressources have you used ?
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:20 AM
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A lot of these girls on the apps are auto selecting for autism and ADHD. If they don't have an emotional baggage the size of the Himalaya. Which means most of them are damaged goods . It's will destroy your self esteem if it's your only source of women . Have you tried cold approach? And how did it go?
/r/seduction19/02/25 12:09 PM
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I assume you're talking about Nightgame. In Nightgame the opener has it's place but it's not as important as it is in Daygame. It's mostly about what you do After the opener. Mix things up to keep it upbeat Misinterpretation Roleplays Banter Probing Self expression Moving her around Introducing her to random people. Ask yourself:" how can I make this fun for me" and use a mix of the above strategies to make that happen. Just curious what is actually your main challenge when it comes to Nightgame…
/r/seduction19/02/25 12:08 PM
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Congrats on taking the first step and actually taking Action out there . I see a few things you could have done better. Fell free to DM me I like talking about his stuff!
/r/seduction19/02/25 12:07 PM
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I have some drills my mentor gave me to practice flirting at home, but I don't think he would be happy if I shared it on the chats for thousands of people to see. Also feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff!!
/r/seduction19/02/25 12:07 PM
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Yes. It's kind of bullshit. It was a " mindset" made up by coaches who can't deliver results. That way if the student fails at least he had fun . It's bullshit. You should go out with the intent of closing , WHILE having fun. So it's a combination of the two. Your goal is to take a girl home. How? By having fun with people. That way it lightens the mood but you are still focused. Another misconception is the "numbers game" thing, which is bullshit. I used to think the same but since last year I …
/r/seduction19/02/25 12:06 PM
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Mate I just had a vision while reading your post. Dm me if you can I think building a social circle could be highly beneficial in your situation. You would crush it !
/r/seduction19/02/25 12:05 PM
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Dm me mate this is deeper than i thought.
/r/seduction17/02/25 07:03 PM
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Those are the Exact last words someone would say before social death. It always baffles me how guys expect women to just like them because they were born or something. It's a paradox: yes you do deserve women because you're a man, but at the same time you need to grow yourself . Why would a woman be with you just because you're having fun? If you don't know how to present yourself, how to talk, how to flirt, ho to manoeuver things socially, why would she ? Do you really want a woman who would sl…
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:51 PM
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This is such a simple yet complex question at the same time . We could give you a basic opener to use all the time, or we could explain to you different scenarios and how to improvise for each one . I have found the energy is better when I start with a neutral opener: not indirect but not 100% full on. Or something challenging: - "how tall are you?" - "sorry I am a bit late how is your night going? " - start in the middle of a thread as if you already know her : " the last time I came here some …
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:50 PM
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Looks like you have an issue with expressiveness more than mistrust. You can mistrust women but as long as you can express it in an engaging and charismatic way , it won't be an issue, on the contrary. Please feel free to DM me, I need details, I love talking about this stuff!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:49 PM
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Just invite her . Don't overthink it
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:49 PM
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Height is more of a dominance issue. The mistake guys make is to think about dominance in a one dimensional way . Dominance depends on the Individual. There are a myriad ways to express it . Feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:48 PM
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Go for the hottest girls you can find only .
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:48 PM
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I highly recommend NOT to . I get it . You think because she is a lady she can wait for sex, and you have to wait for sex . Which means you're thinking about enjoying your dates with her Instead of trying to push things forward on an intimacy level. Big mistake. Women only respect men they are Intimate with. She might appreciate the concert , but it's not going to make the difference. What is going to make an impact is getting intimate with her asap. So in short : after sex it's a great idea, be…
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:47 PM
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Contrary to popular belief , there is a way . Please DM me so we can get into details .
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:47 PM
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Hello. You clearly lack an overall structure. Guys take the importance of a structure and a clear plan too lightly. I know because I have been there, it took me 2 years of gaming to lose my virginity because I was just doing anything for "fun ". Last year I finally started getting results after changing my strategy . Feel free to DM me for details I love talking about this stuff!!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:46 PM
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Look for places that : Have people standing instead of sitting in general: better for approaching. Are loud : women love louder places , go figure why the more difficult it is to enter the place the easier it is to pull. I'm talking places that want you to come with girls or pay an entry fee look at the ratio of men to women there should be at least 1-1 man to woman ratio. Feel free to DM me for more details on Nightgame, I love talking about that stuff!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:46 PM
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If you have a date set up, keep it simple.Basic conversation ,Figure out logistics then make plans and meet in person. I'm not a big fan of talking too much on the phone before you have sex with the girl. Anything you say can fuck things up. Focus on meeting up with her in person first. Do you have a game plan for the date ? Also feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:43 PM
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Yup. Absolutely. You don't owe her anything. Plus it's preselection. Also feel free to DM me for more context , I love talking about this stuff .
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:42 PM
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This is an issue that I see so many guys having. I had the same issue last year and I finally overcame it for good . I am fearless now, can talk to anyone, even groups. Please DM me as I need details specific to you to properly help you. The usual advice on this on the internet is garbage .
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:40 PM
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There is definitely hope. Feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:39 PM
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I literally lost my virginity last year to a girl I met during the daytime. Took her home and closed the deal in 3 hours the same day I met her . Please feel free to DM me I love talking about my transformation!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:38 PM
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I went through a desenticization process last year , and now I'm fearless. I can approach anyone during the daytime, even groups. Feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff in-depth!
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:35 PM
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Honestly speaking, I struggled with bad advice for 2 years and I had to find the right mentor to get out of the hole I was in and finally lose my virginity last year . When I count all the time spent, all the hours wasted doing nonsense and all the money I wasted on the few dates I had, or on drinks to go out , investing in a good coach was worth it . But I was lucky to find the good one, a lot of them are not rear good either . I would say start looking for the RIGHT coach .
/r/seduction17/02/25 06:30 PM
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It's actually a common issue amongst players . You are clearly not connecting enough /making enough impact before getting the number . There is a twofold growth process that needs to happen. You need to grow your charisma over time to get automatic connections. On the shorter term you needed to learn a process to connect before taking every number . Also feel free to DM me for more details as I love talking about this stuff.
/r/seduction15/02/25 09:38 PM
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Hi, you probably have anxiety issues. What have you tried so far to solve that problem? And how did it go?
/r/seduction15/02/25 09:36 PM
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Hello I had the exact same situation last year as a virgin. I was able to work through a system of desenticization and I basically have social freedom now . Lost my virginity to a random girl I approached during the daytime. 3 hours later I was in her hotel room and closed the deal. Now I can approach anytime, anywhere and I get instant dates pretty much on command. But the desenticization process I used was very precise . Also feel free to DM me as I love talking about this stuff.
/r/seduction14/02/25 11:07 PM
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My mentor once told me: " you don't look for the perfect girl for you, you get with the most attractive woman you can be with and you shape her to be your perfect woman ". And I think that's very true. You should not be attached to a random woman that much anyway. Also feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff.
/r/seduction14/02/25 11:07 PM
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This is weird. There are so many girls out there . If you feel like you HAVE to get this specific girl you lack abundance, so you definitely are not ready for her .
/r/seduction14/02/25 11:06 PM
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I would say " interesting" with some eye contact, then I would change topics and start "probing" . Try to escalate physically or verbally to see if she is receptive. How has the communication been with her since? Also feel free to DM me as I get confused with all the threads.
/r/seduction12/02/25 10:03 PM
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In social circle I use the three rounds approach: First round is the first time you meet, you keep it somewhat friendly and social but you connect strongly, find a common center of interest. Second round is the second time you meet her . Ideally invite a bunch of people to some activity. Something simple: salsa, having drinks In a new place , a movie , anything where people share an interest . This is when you can start flirting for a bit, and then invite the girl you like to round 3. Third roun…
/r/seduction12/02/25 10:02 PM
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Hahaha that was funny . Your issue isn't that they think you have a small package, it's rather an issue with dominance . As a short guy projecting dominance is VITAL.Height is just one manifestation of dominance . How do you usually approach these women? Where? And how do you usually dress? Also feel free to DM me, I love talking about this stuff but there are so many threads to follow!!
/r/seduction12/02/25 10:01 PM
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Yes you can. You just need to have a proper strategy and adjust a few things so that she sees you as totally new person. Please DM me so I can get more details and reply to you properly. There are too many threads going on.
/r/seduction12/02/25 10:00 PM
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You need a clear plan. What do you usually do in those situations?
/r/seduction12/02/25 09:54 PM
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Man , how I can relate to this is mad because last year I was in this situation. Either I would approach them the WRONG way or I wouldn't know how to approach them when I saw them in public. So I tried for 2 years but I was still a virgin. I finally found the right strategy for daytime approaches and now I'm able to approach any woman I want to talk to anytime anywhere. It's effortless to catch her attention and generate attraction and get a date almost any day that I want to . The secret is to …
/r/seduction12/02/25 09:54 PM
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If you're listening to her relationship problems you're already dead in the water . There is only one way to take a woman away from her guy : it's to be so good at game that she doesn't care about who she is with anymore and she is ready to do anything to be with you . How is your game going so far? What is your current strategy to get a woman that you like?
/r/seduction12/02/25 09:54 PM
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I don't think it's that ambitious. I know a guy who regularly picks up pornstars and of models. Please DM me as there are private details and I get lost with all those threads anyway.
/r/seduction10/02/25 09:14 PM
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I like your mindset. You are finally waking up to the situation and taking action. Your intentions are great but there are a couple of things you definitely should improve in your approach. If you want to talk about it DM me please, as I get a lot of replies and I get lost in the threads lol.
/r/seduction10/02/25 09:02 PM
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There are levels of escalation, physical and verbal to check first before trying to take her home . But I would say in general if you're on a date and she is making out with you, she is ready. What is your main challenge when it comes to taking girls home do far? Also feel free to DM me , I get confused with all the threads and I love talking about this stuff.
/r/seduction09/02/25 06:10 PM
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To really have sexual abundance, you need to have funnels in place, as well as methods to convert your "leads " into lays consistently. What is your main challenge so far when it comes to having sex with a lot of women? Also feel free to DM me as I feel it will be a deep discussion and I get lost in all those threads.
/r/seduction09/02/25 06:09 PM
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Let me be honest here: She is a coworker which makes it even riskier. To steal a guys girlfriend you seduce her normally, and you don't mention the boyfriend at all. Which brings le to the third point: you need general competency before trying to go for a specific scenario like that . What is your main challenge when it comes to seducing women in general? Also feel free to DM me ...I love talking about this stuff but I get lost in the threads !!
/r/seduction09/02/25 06:08 PM
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hi, following up on our discussion here, I get confused with all the threads. What is your main challenge when it comes to dating at the moment?
/r/seduction06/02/25 08:23 AM
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Not going to scream at toi for doing online game. Just wondering: are you getting dates from it, and if not, what is stopping you?
/r/seduction06/02/25 08:11 AM
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What is stopping you from walking up to them? Is it that you don't know exactly what to do or say?
/r/seduction06/02/25 08:07 AM
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If they are challenging you so much, something is wrong with your vibe or your appearance. Might also be your tonality or body language. How do you usually approach these women and where?
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:27 PM
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This is so relatable to me. What happened is you got lucky just by taking basic action , but you didn't take the time to properly desenticize yourself. When you're desenticized approaching means nothing, it has no emotional charge . Also speaking of rejections, if you're approaching the right way you won't get rejected most of the time . It's not normal or expected to be rejected most of the time , which is why you feel emotionally exhausted. Can you dm me? I love this topic .
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:27 PM
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You need to practice for it to become easier. It's called "progressive desenticization". Or the exposure theory in psychology. Basically what you do is you ascertain your current level of comfort and you progressively expand it over a couple of weeks or so. Feel free to DM me for more details I can't keep up with all the threads .
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:26 PM
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There is no such thing as " good girl". Under the right circumstances every girl will have sex relatively fast . Do you want to be the guy who waited while someone else banged her quickly?
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:26 PM
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From what I'm reading you lack dominance and sexuality in your game . You're playing it too safe . Pushing for sex is not mysoginistic, it's a logistical tool to keep the" spark " alive in your interactions. If you just hang out with her and talk to her but you show no aggression she can't really feel something for you . What is your current way of doing things? Where do you meet women and what do you say ?
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:25 PM
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What kind of approach are you currently doing? And where? Also Feel free to DM me , all the threads are confusing.
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:25 PM
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Approaching is about discipline and progressive desenticization. It's not about motivation. Feel free to DM me for more details I can't keep up with all the threads .
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:56 PM
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I was in the same situation last year . I would say take a progressive approach. Be aware of what you're comfortable doing and just progressively expand your comfort zone like an elastic band .what are you currently comfortable doing? Also feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff, and there are too many threads
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:56 PM
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I would advise you don't try to . It's a catch 22 because in order to win her back , you would need to have the skills that would have made it impossible to lose her in the first place . So just move on. Most of the time a fixation on one chick stems from the lack of abundance? What is the main thing stopping you from having an abundance of options?
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:55 PM
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You can't straight up ask them that . You have to go step by step: Get her to be curious about you . Progressively insert sexual jokes or compliments and see how she reacts Touch her progressively and see how she reacts. Feel free to DM me I love talking about this stuff !
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:55 PM
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Hello. It's not too late . I myself struggled for 2 years before finally losing my virginity at 22. I have difficulties communicating socially and reading cues and I had a crippling social anxiety ...but I made it happen. Please feel free to DM me I like talking about my transformation.
/r/seduction05/02/25 06:40 AM
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The opener is way too complicated. I don't even like direct openers but if you absolutely want to do them a better one would be " excuse me, quick question...you look so cool/ you have such a cool vibe/ I was wondering what you do for fun". It's direct but it's not begging or giving her too much power too early. I spent the last year fighting my fears approaching women during the day and I lost my virginity with a stranger i approached in the street during the daytime .Also feel free to DM me I …
/r/seduction05/02/25 06:40 AM
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How does she know your full name in the first place ?
/r/seduction05/02/25 06:39 AM
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Don't wait for anything. Go for it . Let me tell you why... When you wait for women to give you signals you are hurting yourself: - you become scared of rejection, you don't develop a tough skin to endure most social situations. You are mentally weak and you don't have calibration to deal with group scenarios - you become reactive and in your head, so bad that even if you meet a woman you like , you will be so intimidated that she will lose attraction for you . Some guys would not be intimidated…
/r/seduction05/02/25 06:33 AM
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Absolutely not mate. To be sure she really wants that meet her outside of the office. If she agrees to meet you outside of work then it's free game . But in the office? Let's say after the fact she changes her mind ? You would be fucked .
/r/seduction05/02/25 06:31 AM
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To flirting is about : - being progressive - tonality - facial expression
/r/seduction25/01/25 07:16 PM
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You're right but this should be taken more as a sign that rejection is irrelevant. It's not to be taken personally. So keep improving and keep trying your best.
/r/seduction25/01/25 07:15 PM
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To sexually charge your compliments there are 3 ways: - use tonality and facial expressions - visualize sex with her while talking to her . - make her work for it .
/r/seduction25/01/25 07:15 PM
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If you have to walk more than 10 minutes it's too far . But then again it depends on your game abilities. What system or techniques are you using for Nightgame so far?
/r/seduction25/01/25 07:12 PM
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Please dm me as I don't want it to just spread . It's things im still using .
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:48 PM
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Hello . What exactly is your biggest fear? Do you feel unsafe? Or are you scared of embarrassment?
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:25 PM
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Listen mate. You're still VERY young and you have all your life ahead of you . You are going to college so you will have all the opportunities to explore your sexuality there . You have your best years ahead of you, believe me . Another thing is your mindset. You might have your flaws and whatnot ,but you have VALUE as an individual because there is only ONE YOU. There are not two people that have your looks , genetics , experiences, skills and beliefs. And thus , you deserve to be heard and und…
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:24 PM
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So it depends . Some guys are friendly, other guys who are "orbiters" and have been waiting to be with those chicks for a long time will not be . It's irrelevant anyway. If you want to get the girl you can get to her wether those guys like it or not . You just have to be calibrated and socially intelligent. In a nutshell dominate those guys in such a friendly way that they don't even perceive it as you getting over them . Then make an observation to the girl . You're in. You can talk to her
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:23 PM
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Really is a case by case basis . How did you meet? What was the reason for the numbers exchange? How was she when you first met ? How far did you go as far as flirting with her ? You can also reply to me by DM as I get lost in all these threads and I don't come in those chats often .
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:23 PM
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Hi. reach out in private so I can help with your texting . I used to struggle but now it's pretty straightforward for me .
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:21 PM
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To keep it short : Find out about her interests. Go deeper into those interests and find out why she's interested in those things . Make plans based on that . Also if you want more info reach out privately because I get lost in all of these threads sometimes.
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:21 PM
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You could do confidence exercises and affirmations and all that . But nothing beats knowing what to do and getting good results with women . Learn the proper things to do and tour results with women will naturally grow your confidence.
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:20 PM
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The best way in those kinds of environments is to make an "accidental observation". Don't worry too much about being masculine on the approach , but more on projecting certainty, trust and comfort.
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:20 PM
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To create sexual tension in a conversation with a woman: Don't forget why you are there . While talking to her visualize having sex with her and sexual scenarios, it will add to the energy you project Have a plan: don't try to freestyle. Have a step by step process on how to escalate things sexually. Use sexual expression as a "reward" . Make her work for your sexual interest. Use non verbals : use your voice and eye contact to add to the sexual tension .
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:19 PM
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You shouldn't look for indicators of interest before approaching. Makes you reactive and lower value to the girl . You should go in expecting to generate those indicators of interest by using your social skills .
/r/seduction22/01/25 07:19 PM
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This sounds very sad . Do you live in a city where you can see enough attractive women walking around on the daily?
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:18 PM
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Of course there is a tactic to overcome this. You are not obligated to give your real age. When she asks say " guess?" . Whatever she says say she's right and she's very clever for that, then change topics . Later on after she is more invested into you you can tell her you were joking. Don't let these artificial constraints women create get in the way of a good connection.
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:17 PM
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The Mystery Method has timeless wisdom in it. But it doesn't mean that because it's timeless it can't be improved . There are better ways to do things today . For example, the MM is too linear .
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:12 PM
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It's a better strategy overall to take risks than not take them. It's an even better strategy to have checkpoints to KNOW where you stand in the seduction process. For example some cues will tell you she is ready to be moved, to kiss , to be pulled and so on .
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:12 PM
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It's a better strategy overall to take risks than not take them. It's an even better strategy to have checkpoints to KNOW where you stand in the seduction process. For example some cues will tell you she is ready to be moved, to kiss , to be pulled and so on .
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:11 PM
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You are dealing with dynamic social homeostasis. In short because you are not used to it, your ego takes over and finds reasons not to take the risk. It has more to do with exposure theory than anything else . You need to gradually expose yourself. Start in your comfort zone then progressively try riskier and riskier things . I was in the same situation in 2024 it took me a couple of weeks to overcome it. What do you feel comfortable doing at the moment? Eye contact? Just going out ?
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:09 PM
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I personally only use texting for logistics to meet irl. Only after I had sex with her do I try to "build rapport" by text .
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:42 AM
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Online dating has two main parts : Getting the girl to see you Closing the deal in person. Your in person game is just not strong enough. What do you usually do to try and close the deal in person?
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:40 AM
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Why not go for the number directly? This Instagram stuff is building a wall between you and the girl. Why go to her social media where she has dozens of DMS, when you can her personal line directly? It's like regressing. She might have said the truth about the Instagram thing but at the same time due to your reaction to it she might have lost interest. Do you have a step by step method to sexualize things with women in general?
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:40 AM
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Flaky= Not really interested. It's kind of the same thing. I get the feeling that you're not aggressive enough on the first date . If nothing sexual or romantic happens on the first date her incentive to see you again goes down. Why would she ?
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:39 AM
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I completely disagree with guys who want to use IG. I would say stay away from it . I don't see why I would try to compete with guys who have hundreds of thousands of followers, a cool lifestyle and mambos and all that stuff on their page , when I can just meet a girl irl and display my personality for an hour and close the deal . I really have no clue . Guys who usually advise IG think it's a shortcut that will save them from talking to women irl . It's not true. You still have to meet her in p…
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:38 AM
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This sounds absolutely crazy to me. Is she from the hood?
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:38 AM
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Daygame if well done works anywhere. The goal is to stand out not to look like the 10 guys that tried to talk to her before. I lost my virginity last year doing daygame in a difficult area . I can know get dates pretty much When I want, I can even talk to groups during daytime now. Please reach out privately so I can get more details about your situation and maybe help you.
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:37 AM
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The goal when seducing women is to generate investment. Spiking emotions is just ONE way of doing so. If yous like emotions but you don't get her to invest, as soon as she lives these emotions are gone. Which is why so many guys get flakes. What exactly are you trying to achieve? Get regular sex or making her fall in love?
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:36 AM
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I used to feel like you . I spent two years doing direct openers and it made me depressed. Massive rejection. The principle of indirect is simple : you show interest , but you wait for her to get interested in you first . To do so you use what I would call "accidental" strategies. The magnetic spect of it comes from the fact that somewhere she knows you want to seduce her, but she is not sure...so it's that cat and mouse game that gets her to stick around and talk to you to find out . But if it'…
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:36 AM
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I had traumatic experiences with rejections in the Past, including a woman calling a police on me . So I had a HUGE block approaching in the middle of the crowd or in front of people and so on. I used a desenticization process over a couple of Weeks to get over it .Some of the details pertain to my private life and I don't come on the forum often so please message me privately if you want more details. Godd luck!!
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:35 AM
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Hello. Please contact me in private urgently as your situation reflects exactly what I was dealing With in 2024...until I found a solution and now I get instant dates in daygame anytime I want to . I do not want to give private details here on the forum but contact me privately asap so we can talk about this. Direct game is a scam
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:34 AM
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It's a lot of days until your date . Just text her a couple of times in between to ask her how she is and how things are going
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:33 AM
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Hello . I had the same issue going on in 2024. I was scared shirtless of approaching in public due to past traumatic experiences. I finally solved the issue with some external help on 2024 and I'm getting instant dates in the daytime pretty much anytime I want to . I don't want to share too many details about my private life on the forum so feel free to message me privately so we can discuss this . I think I have the solution for you .
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:33 AM
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Reddit is weird with the DMS. Message me and I will tell you what to do . I was struggling with this last year but I solved the issue. I get instant dates pretty smoothly now from daygame .
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:32 AM
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PFMPP Passions Future Memories People close to her People and places you both know
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:31 AM
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Kissing has to happen only once she has reached a certain level of emotional investment as well as sexual investment . Once you get to the right level there are several ways to kiss her. One way I use is to kiss her on both cheeks, then look into her eyes, If she doesn't back off I kiss her. Another one would be the Eskimo kiss. " Do you know the Eskimo kiss? In those cold places people can't kiss on the mouth because the cold would freeze.their saliva, so they just touch each others noses...lik…
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:28 AM
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What happens is because a lot of men lack true game, they are scrambling to find a substitute for what makes women attracted. Money Status Looks These things will bring you NOTHING or very unsatisfactory results if you don't have a deep understanding of what creates attraction in women. Those are bonuses . I know guys with 100k followers who still struggle because they have no understanding of how to generate attraction so they can't capitalize on it . If you are a man with those advantages but …
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:27 AM
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I was struggling as well, but in 2024 I finally lost my virginity from talking to a girl during the day . Now it's much easier for me to meet people irl, I even talk to groups. Got a couple of dates from the gym and so on...you can reach out maybe with more details I can help you more with your first steps.
/r/seduction17/01/25 07:37 AM
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Go along with it . Try to build a connection on the date despite the kid being there . Then she will meet you again one on one and you an close . Rather use the situation to your advantage than complain about it.
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:20 AM
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You just need a tried and rested strategy. It's all about statistical occurrence . The best statistical way to approach. The best statistical way to maintain a conversation Best statistical way to sexualize Best statistical way to take her home And so on. By piling up tried and tested strategies you become proficient
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:19 AM
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Frame is like a muscle . The less you use it, the weaker it gets . I would say you should: Desenticize yourself to social Interactions. Progressively get comfortable being social again. Massively enforce your frame so that it becomes an habit. The best social gym I know is still daygame. If you're able to use your frame to influence a woman who was going about her day to go on a date with you or even go home with you, you will master framing.
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:19 AM
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You're right . Being too direct is an extreme , but friendzoning chicks is the other extreme. The truth is in the middle. Last year I learned how to start indirect and navigate the interaction to a sexual place . I lost my virginity by asking for directions to a random chick during the daytime , a few hours later we were having sex . It's all about being progressive, you can definitely start neutral and get sexual interest a few minutes if you know what you're doing .
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:19 AM
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I would 100% put it on a good mentor . I lost 2 years of my life trying to do things by myself, until I randomly found a mentor that really delivered. I spent some money from him but what I got back was priceless: I finally lost my virginity to a complete stranger a few hours after I met her during the daytime I can now get instant dates pretty much anytime I go out to talk to girls . I have no difficulty talking to women in public, even in crowded places, no issues talking to groups of women ev…
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:18 AM
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You're 100% right . I think the main issue is the lack of proper knowledge on the topic. A lot of what guys see online is outdated and inefficient so they waste years running after elusive results. The first and most important thing is finding the right Information. Find someone who can really prove he does what you want to do and learn from them. It cost me 2 years running around before I finally found that and lost my virginity in 2024 .
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:17 AM
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Your uncle is partially right. Play future hypothetical scenarios but go progressively. First roleplay the perfect date , have her give you details of what she wants . Then roleplay the perfect love making session. Have her describe where , when and how. Usually an hypothetical honey moon is a good set up to start with . After you're done roleplaying she will be turned on. Pull the trigger by kissing her.
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:16 AM
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This is what happens with when you're talking without goal in mind : - if you're talking and she's with friends the goal is to isolate her - if you're isolated the goal is to flirt and try to show physical affection to see if she's ready for it - if she's accepting physical affection while isolated the goal is to manage logistics and take her outside the venue And so on ... What method do you usually use ?
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:08 PM
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You're welcome. What are your overall goals when it comes to dating ?
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:56 PM
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It works for ME, but obviously it's better if you can make slight adaptations based on your own situation. What are your goals overall when it comes to dating?
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:41 PM
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The issue here isn't how to handle her trying to leave but how to better your conversation in the first place . If the conversation is attractive she will not try to leave : - avoid being too factual , use emotions in your delivery. - make sure your fashion and grooming is on point. - focus on things she wants to talk about or at least focus on topics that women like : drama, the unknown, fate and so on. Talking about work is boring.
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:03 PM
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I think most men should learn COLD approach. Online apps do work, but they require so much effort that they should be done only as a bonus . Also the most average looking girls are very demanding on the apps because they have the illusion of choice . Have you tried cold approach ?
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:02 PM
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When you talk to women at bars how far do you usually get ?
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:02 PM
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First mistake is thinking it's a numbers game. You can reduce the numbers by: Improving your passive value . Refining your technique. Choosing the right women to approach. Also I think since you are living in a small town it's better to have a more indirect or neutral approach, then navigate the conversation to see if she is open for more . That way you won't burn down all your options or develop a reputation.
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:01 PM
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I think you're looking at this the wrong way . It's ok to compliment women but in the context of a full seduction . Just complimenting them for no reason will not get you much results as most men already do this . It's more to think of a compliment as a reward for something special she has done with you or for you . That being said avoid complimenting her looks, find something unique about her and compliment her on it : You have great energy Your fashion is so unique I like it Your voice is soot…
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:01 PM
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When she made out with you should have tried to see if she was ready to get Intimate. You missed that window of opportunity and she lost attraction.
/r/seduction10/01/25 05:00 PM
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I think you're lacking options or else you wouldn't be thinking about this specific girl. What's your biggest challenge when it comes to meeting new girls?
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:59 PM
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I was just a virgin with a few bad rejections in my past... Seduction made me a better person overall, it made me able to socialise and it made me lose my virginity in 2024... I would say for a beginner a lot of the advice online is confusing, because some of it is not so good and some is contradictory. I would say what made the difference for me was finding the right mentor to learn from. Good luck!!
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:55 PM
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Two main factors at play here : Your game got rusty: by not practicing or executing the moves you lost in technical ability, but also in overall presence and charisma. Women can smell when you have experience and success with other women. They can also tell the opposite. Tiles have changed : In the laspse of time you were inactive, game has changed. Women have more options, they are more demanding due to social media and online apps. You need to adapt and become more efficient and know how to ha…
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:55 PM
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It's not that hard . Matter of fact the hotter women are not usually talked to or approached the right way . Most guys are weird about it . If you're able to talk to her normally and maintain a cool conversation , flirt with her without being weird or too nervous too have a good shot at getting these women.
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:53 PM
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Double back using a reason that makes sense .
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:53 PM
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Being progressive is key . I see my flirtation as a series of checkpoint ' I won't flirt at a certain Intensity unless she is ok with a lower level of intensity.
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:50 PM
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think it's a matter of desenticising yourself again . Also re-learning proper game . Your mind got comfortable so it will come up with every possible excuse in the book to stop you from going out there . Don't listen . Force yourself to be out there and practice.
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:47 PM
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If you have a solid plan to follow and go from the conversation to getting Intimate it doesn't really matter what you said before or not . If she brings up that you talked about it say you know you just want to clarify things and understand her better
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:47 PM
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It's very difficult for the average man who never tells to strangers to muster the courage and talk to a random girl like that . You need to take this seriously and focus a couple of weeks to desenticize yourself . I had to do that last year as I had approach anxiety and was always worried about what people would think of me if I talked to women in public. But then with some guidance I was able to progressively let go of my fears , and now I'm able to talk to strangers, even groups .
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:46 PM
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A couple of different strategies: If she's one of the hottest women in the place go very direct and upfront: " you're the cutest here I had to say hi" If she's more on the average side make an observation: " Jeez more enthusiasm, you're at a bar for god sake !!"
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:45 PM
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I think you're being paranoid honestly. I have approached women with their boyfriend standing right there and the guy was almost supportive. As long as it's done under the radar there will be no issue. Prioritize learning how to approach indirectly or neutral as this is the sign of someone who has status (social intelligence).
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:45 PM
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Think about it as a progressive framing. When you want to go sexual, start low but then ramp up the intensity when she is accepting more and more . I feel like it would be more comfortable discussing this in private as I need more details.
/r/seduction10/01/25 04:44 PM
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What's the overall context? When are why are you trying to draw these assumptions?
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:33 PM
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Hello I was in a similar situation last year, this is what I did: I learned how to desenticize myself to social pressure and I dealt with issues I had in my past regarding social humiliation. I learned a structured way of approaching women and getting them attracted to me. I improved my fashion and the way I was doing my hair . I learned from my mentor that if the fashion is right , she will forgive you more for making mistakes especially during the day . I used my experience to learn more as I …
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:32 PM
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You should definitely call her instead of texting. Give her an excuse to jump on the phone and find out what's the real issue is. " You seem to be a cool chick and I thought we had a connection.. Is something wrong?" Be straightforward
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:32 PM
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Absolutely. Online game should be a bonus . Because even when you get good you still have the odd woman who will reject you for the stupidest reason, and that will mess with your self esteem and damage your overall game. Only focus on online when you can get results irl Don't take any girl from online seriously until she proves herself. A lot of unstable people on these apps.
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:31 PM
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Hi That is specific to that one woman, does not mean you should just go around teasing every woman. What you need to learn is: - how to initiate conversations - how to get her invested in those conversations - how to go from a neutral conversation to a mutually sexual one. - how to get Intimate with her once she shows sexual interest. For that you need some kind of plan or structure.
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:27 PM
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I think there is a bit of truth in what you're saying , like your energy is different with the Omen you don't care about . But I also think you lack a technical aspect to your game when it comes to these women: you don't connect well with them prior to getting their contact. A strong connection overcomes all these issues.
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:25 PM
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It looked like it was going ok. Your priority when getting her contact is to see her again in person. The game is played in person.
/r/seduction10/01/25 02:25 PM
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Tricky. When they are two on a trip it's difficult to isolate one of them unless she already likes you a lot . Try inviting her for dinner or drinks and if she brings the friend dont get mad. Entertain the friend for a bit and put her at ease , make her trust you .
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:56 PM
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Go on YouTube and put "billboard 100". It will give you all the songs that are hits that week . She probably heard those songs on the radio or in the club so it will feel familiar to her . She might even sing and dance . Don't make the mistake of trying to be original and trying to share your own tastes with her . You're still in the seduction process. Focus on getting intimate with her first, getting her to like you, then you can share more intimate parts of yourself.
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:56 PM
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You're focusing on the wrong things . You don't have to tell her that . Focus on getting intimate properly with her . AFTER you have sex you can talk about it not before.
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:50 PM
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This is what happens in 2020: Onlyfans became popular and lost the stigma of shame: so a lot of the more attractive women went online to make money from selling their body. Those who didn't were still influenced by the same mentality of "knowing your worth" which is why they started looking for transactional relationships. If it's ok to sell your body online, then it's ok to ask money to just show up to a date ... Which leads us to this very important point: men became more desperate. Between th…
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:50 PM
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It's about investment Vs return. Some guys don't want to spend on dinner and drinks for no reason. Also, when your game is structured you are supposed to pull fast, in between 45 minutes to 1h30. Spending more time outside sometimes brings diminishing returns. You might lose attraction or on the contrary she might decide to make you wait because you are "boyfriend material".
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:44 PM
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Don't talk. Get in front of her Extend your hand so she can shake it , then spin her . After you have spinned her it's like an implicot contract that you can dance with her. Raves and festivals are about the only place I would dance with a girl on the approach though. If it's a regular bar or club , don't dance . Pretend there is no music and Introduce yourself, then start talking.
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:33 PM
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In a relationship when sex becomes bad or absent it's not a matter of sex, it's a matter of connection. She isn't attracted or Intrigued by you anymore. No sparks . You need to take care of yourself again if you let yourself go. Dress well, smell good and so on . You also need to be more challenging and tease her more. Tall about how other women are trying to flirt with you, present a challenge, don't be so accessible. In short , you became BORING. And it's a dangerous situation to be in because…
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:28 PM
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Any uncomfortable situation can be dealt with by doing progressive desenticization. Just start with small tasks like saying hi, asking for directions etc, then up the ante and get more direct once you're comfortable.
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:26 PM
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It's crazy how men are stubborn about this . Status, looks, money are just bonuses . Elon is charismatic, he probably has some game, he has solid beliefs and boundaries, so women are attracted to his personality more than anything else . All this to say in my experience , game trumps everything. What are your goals when it comes to dating ?
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:25 PM
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Hi It's not so much about being impressive with your opener but rather get her to be relaxed and comfortable talking to you. So look for openers that do that . Something simple that's not weird and that doesn't activate any bad knee jerk reactions.
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:19 PM
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In daygame openers absolutely matter . In Nightgame your delivery matters
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:18 PM
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You're right . It doesn't fucking matter. How are your social skills though?
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:18 PM
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If she wants to take you out by all means go out with her . It's called subconscious attraction. Women don't do stuff randomly there is always a reason. So make her work for it for a bit then accept her invitation. Once there you can make her invest more then flirt progressively.
/r/seduction27/12/24 06:43 PM
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In a nutshell: Stand for yourself. They will test you to see if you're a normal cool guy . So any resistance tell them " it's ok , im just getting to know her it's all good". Don't get offended or pissed off to her friends. No big deal . Have something prepared to start the conversation as well as a couple of things to keep it going . Think topics like pop culture, music, drame, the unknown, relationships and so on... As far as keeping the conversation going a simple comment + question should be…
/r/seduction27/12/24 06:27 PM
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It comes from a previous bad experience with women. You oroba had one or several instances where you were hurt or humiliated, and now you have this protection mechanism to avoid those Instances. This usually goes away after experiencing success with women, the good experiences overcome the bad ones . Women are not mean by design, they are just clueless.
/r/seduction27/12/24 06:23 PM
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Hi At some point there has to be a mindset shift for ryoi to be able to get somewhere with women. You have to either: - admit that you want that specific woman to start something sexual or romantic with , or - frame it in such a way that you are still tet her and seeing if she would be a good fit for you. The second frame is closer to what you're doing now but it's more powerful and healthier. Where are you meeting these women usually?
/r/seduction27/12/24 06:22 PM
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When you don't know what to do , yes. But with statistics and a calculated approach, it can become easy and predictable. Is Daygame your favourite way to talk to women? If not which one is it ?
/r/seduction25/12/24 08:37 PM
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Going from the easiest to the most difficult: Bars Malls or any type of closed space Streets. But I learned the streets first so everything after that became easier
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:22 PM
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Honestly online game is getting shittier by the day . Have you tried learning cold approach?
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:22 PM
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Tricky situation indeed. If you have been in the friendzone for years it's hard to get out . I would give you some tips but it would take a lot of social skills to pull off. All I could tell you is try to invite her to "catch up" and see if she is receptive when you flirt with her . That's all I can say given your situation.
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:22 PM
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Very good question actually... These kinds of issues arise when the fallacy is : seduction is a numbers game. It should not be. It should be a sniper game. You should be able to talk to 6 women in a socially calibrated way and sleep with at least one or two, without any social repercussions. So the first step should be to review your game and social skills.
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:21 PM
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Older women are definitely easier . The cut off age is 28. After that they generally get more down to earth and reasonable, due to their looks fading and their clock ticking. They also care less about what people think of them . Also at that age most their friends are married with kids , so they feel the pressure.
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:21 PM
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There is en emphasis these days on natural game and freestyling and I think this is a mistake. If you just started learning social skills you should have specific topics, a conversation structure and even scripts when necessary. A simple structure would be : comment + question.
/r/seduction24/12/24 06:20 PM
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When it comes to game in general it's not about being high or low value , it's about being a couple of points higher in energy than the people you are talking to . In daygame : If you're dealing with a group the frame is : " look I'm a fun outgoing guy who can show you how to have a good time in this city". So the energy is a bit higher. If she is alone the frame is :" I bumped into you randomly and my energy is just a little bit higher than yours but I intend to brighten you up and make you mor…
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:25 PM
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Casual but assertive yes. Use your non verbals yes . Eye contact and tonality are important. If you talk about the weather but your tonality says " I am fucking you deep" it will have an impact . But you also need to have a planned checklist where you give progressively sexual compliments. Only when she accepts light compliments , then you can go to heavier more aggressive sexual compliments.
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:21 PM
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Hi, She seems to be honest about it. I don't think she is lying . You can go two ways : Text her " let me know " and just chill. Text her :" let me call you real quick" then call her and push for the meet on the call, making specific plans .
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:19 PM
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Normally I wouldn't encourage you waiting for 2 weeks but I'd she is the one texting you you can go for it . She probably saw something she lied about you . Text her twice a week not more , and keep it light in general, not too deep. The frame is :" you seemed interesting on the date so I'm getting to know you before you get back here " . Then when she is back wait a couple of days and propose to go to a specific place to try something new/special. Good luck 🤞🏽
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:18 PM
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Meaningless conversations: It depends on your intentionsbut the best way to keep a conversation going it's to talk about what she likes about and let her open up and talk the most. Then when she has been emotionally investing you can introduce sexual spikes .
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:15 PM
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Hi This is a very tricky situation as seducing a woman that is on the offensive is tricky. You don't want to show too much interest and you better have her chase a bit . I think the best tool you can have at your disposal is qualification. Ask her questions to make her feel like you got her number because she worked for it by answering them . Also get some social touch in: hold her hand side- hug her maybe a kiss on the cheek . Use a lot of sexual eye contact so she can feel your sexuality but s…
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:15 PM
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Hi I have a bunch of techniques to get people to open up fast to me since I have learned how to seduce women during the daytime. I would say there are two main ways : Making them talk in volume: many ways to do this but a basic comment + question will do the trick and have them tall a lot . Making them talk in depth : ask them how they feel, what motivated them to do things they do, what are their values about different things and so on. In what context exactly are you trying to get people to op…
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:11 PM
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The issue isn't about being too nice per see, it's about not being your true self. If you feel something you need to express it the way you feel it . There is a difference between being polite and just being a pushover . So sit down for a moment and try to figure out what it is that you really feel about these situations and how to express your real feelings. Now if you are at work of course you need some decorum but the balance should always be at least 60% truth and 40% being polite.
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:09 PM
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Hi There is definitely a way to go about this. You have to learn indirect game, as it is the highest form of game and the most flexible. It's about setting a number of Checkpoints where you don't get any risk seducing a woman because you always know exactly where you are and where she is ready to go . You could start with a neutral topic and depending on her receptivity you can see if she is ready to get sexual or not
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:07 PM
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Hi Very interesting question but the answer is not straightforward. There are steps to be taken on a date before you know you can kiss the girl. While being in a party environment it's easier to kiss because the energy is high, people are drunk, it's all about fun. On a date kissing has meaning, so it should be planned better .
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:06 PM
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Hi I saw your post and I felt compelled to reply because I have been there before... I didn't want to use"game" I just wanted to be myself. But the truth is like my mentor said , like in every species we re subject to a mating dance in order to have sex . Sometimes the mating dance happens randomly, by luck , but if we want to have consistent options we need to learn the mating dance and make it happen regularly and consciously. Nothing to do wit gambits or being fake, just following the laws of…
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:06 PM
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