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How do you think feminism started exactly? Or what it normally does? It's an imperfect ideology but that doesn't make women's rights a problem or a bad thing to be concerned about.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:25 AM
-8

Well, I don't want to be a hypocrite. No chivalry for me!
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:16 AM
0

How can you be concerned about men's rights but not understand why women would want to fight for their rights? Don't you get it? I don't know how to explain this more simply to you.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:15 AM
-20

I was obviously joking.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:09 AM
-15

Lmao.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:02 AM
-34

She didn't say she wanted or expected them to. She said she appreciates it and doesn't think it's harmful or against feminism.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:35 AM
0

The hashtag about believing women was about believing victims. Of course male victims matter too.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:28 AM
-67

All of the things you are complaining about came from patriarchy. Patriarchal structures oppress men too. I'd rather be considered equal and have the same rights and possibly go to war over being considered lesser. Can't you imagine what it would have been like to be a woman in the past and be so severely limited in what you were allowed to do? Fighting in a war obviously sucks but come on.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:26 AM
1

Acknowledging that street harassment exists and women are obviously allowed to be scared by it is not villifying men. I already explained to you why women are scared so I have no idea why you're still talking about how nothing dangerous has happened. You clearly don't have the ability to empathize with women in any way. Women have no way of knowing whether a guy is a sexual predator or just a catcaller.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:20 AM
-1

You are on a men's rights subreddit. Your hypocrisy is astounding.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 03:18 AM
1

Why is the gender of the victim so important but the gender of the perpetrator is not? Men hurting other men has absolutely nothing to do with women. Talk to people of your gender about not being such violent and aggressive assholes. It's not a gender issue if women have nothing to do with it. Men need to get their shit together.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 07:40 PM
0

Lmao. It is hilarious that you are pretending like I am the one being unreasonable here.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 10:38 PM
0

You clearly don't understand what feminism is at all. This is just pathetic.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 08:29 PM
-8

You just completely contradicted yourself within one comment. Good job.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 05:35 PM
-2

How can you not get why feminism is a huge part of society?
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:52 PM
1

It's about street harassment. Bringing up something unrelated and complaining it's not included is weird.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:36 PM
-2

Wow, it's almost like women are people too....
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:31 PM
0

Their point was that their murders couldn't be labelled as a gender issue not that men are bad.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:30 PM
-8

Women who are scared by catcalling are scared that the guy is going to do something worse. Pretending like a woman doesn't have the right to be scared of a guy sexually harassing her is absurd.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:11 PM
-2

It is a pun based on the fact that the term man is used for both humanity and the male gender. Come on.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 12:58 AM
-1

That was supposed to be a joke.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 12:23 AM
2

I'm glad you said you would look after the kid. I would say that the guy has every right to remove himself from the situation but he is still being an asshole. The fact that his bio kid is withdrawing kind of shows that this will have consequences for him. I feel kind of like him still being kind to the kids would serve to highlight that he is a better person than the mother or at least less selfish.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 05:08 AM
1

I'm not saying that the dad needs to be raising someone who is not his son but to completely disregard someone you parented for twelve years is a really mean thing to do to a kid. My husband's stepdad was only his parent for around seven years. Nice people don't do this kind of a thing to kids.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 02:33 AM
1

The brother is his own person. I think your attitude towards children is callous.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 02:15 AM
0

I did answer your questions. I'm sorry I didn't the first time. I got distracted. You seem to be ignoring my questions though. It's fine if you don't want to talk to me. I can see how my comments could be labeled as feminist but not misandrist or female supremacist. I think that jumping to charging people with crimes is dramatic and entirely unrealistic. People sleep around. People deceive others. There is no way the courts are going to be throwing mother's in jail for not confessing to affairs.…
/r/MensRights08/04/22 02:14 AM
1

You do have a choice. I think you're a total whiner who lets women push him around and then plays victim. Eta: you sound like a clueless child who want to blame everything on women.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 01:10 AM
0

Are you seriously pretending like having a job is oppression? Grow up.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 01:05 AM
0

It's interesting that there's all these men who don't have kids then or are happily working. Perhaps they're just pretending to not be oppressed, I guess.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 01:02 AM
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The burden of proof would make it really hard to convict someone and do we really want to throw people in jail for sleeping around and not confessing? This is a thing that happens a lot. Why can't the guy just sue her? Why does this need to be a criminal thing?
/r/MensRights08/04/22 12:59 AM
1

A world where men have free will? Do you seriously think women are demanding to get to do childcare and men are passively submitting? Most couples make this decision together.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 12:55 AM
1

His biological kid is standing up for his little brother! No one is siding with the mother. Seriously, traitorous child? That is a crazy thing for you to say.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 12:47 AM
1

Why aren't men making their own decisions like all the other adults? The notion that men are being forced to work while women get to do whatever they want is absolutely laughable.
/r/MensRights08/04/22 12:44 AM
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His biological kid is now not wanting anything to do with him. He's making his losses worse.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:59 PM
0

I feel like I already responded to this.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:40 PM
1

Then maybe men should look after the children if it's so easy.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:30 PM
0

I was just talking about the difficulty of proving this. People sleep around all the time.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:29 PM
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You are saying that women taking time off work so they can look after their children instead is an example of women not working as hard? They're just doing a different kind of work.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:20 PM
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Because of how difficult it would be to enforce, interpret the law and uphold it.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:18 PM
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Typically there's a reason like women take time off work to take care of the children. Also, in most couples, the man earns more.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:14 PM
2

Maybe he could sue her.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:09 PM
1

I think most women have jobs.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 11:05 PM
-1

Maybe she was scared. Again, I am not saying what she did was ok. This shouldn't be a crime but possibly he could sue her?
/r/MensRights07/04/22 10:48 PM
-4

Because she wouldn't know who the father was
/r/MensRights07/04/22 10:29 PM
2

Completely abandoning the kid seems like an act of revenge to me. I feel so bad for this kid. He didn't do anything but he is the one being punished the most here.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 10:11 PM
-6

This is the kind of thing where she can easily say that she honestly thought he was the father and no one can prove it.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 10:08 PM
3

I agree and since this a men's rights issue and they're both boys, how are people here not advocating for them? Paternity fraud is a terrible thing but bad things that happen to people when they are children are a lot harder to get over.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 10:04 PM
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The deceit is her fault and she has probably severely damaged the relationship between the children and their father but he shouldn't be treating the children badly in response to it. There has to be a point where people decide to be better not get revenge. Otherwise the cycle of people being hurt and then hurting others never ends.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 09:59 PM
-14

You are proposing making lying illegal. I agree that paternity fraud is evil and damages the man and the children but, get a grip. People don't deserve to get thrown in jail for something like this.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 09:54 PM
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Isn't the original post about how the father wants nothing to do with his former son? I am definitely not saying that he should be expected to pay child support but he shouldn't refuse to see the kid. Continuing a relationship with someone who thinks of you as their father is not being cuckolded.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 08:01 PM
1

This is not toxic masculinity. Will Smith needs to get anger management therapy.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 07:56 PM
6

Parental abandonment as children really screws people up. Very, very few people would give him another chance if he previously showed he had no interest in being a father. This is an abusive suggestion.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 07:50 PM
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You're saying that the better thing for him to do is abandon both of them and then try and weasel back in to the biological son's life once he's over 18? The son is just going to tell him to fuck off.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 07:37 PM
1

Lmao. The op does sound kind of silly.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 07:21 PM
2

No, the word patriarchy is not blaming men. Patriarchy refers to a society where men are more likely to end up in leadership roles. It's related to traditional values about what men and women should do.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 07:19 PM
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No, I don't. Being deceived and paternity fraud are evil things but you don't allow child to suffer over it. Based on what the op of the original thread said, he's going to lose his biological kid if he keeps this up. No, his actions are not understandable because he's mistreating people who didn't do anything to him. I'm not talking about the cheating mother because she is not the topic of the thread or the one mistreating a child.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 07:02 PM
-3

It will help the kid more than completely abandoning him would.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 06:58 PM
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The dad is an adult. Other people mistreating you is not an excuse to be mean to a child.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 06:55 PM
-3

You are right. My husband's mother is twice divorced. He has a former stepfather with absolutely no relation to him and he still treats him like a son. The father is acting like a terrible person.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 06:54 PM
1

How?
/r/MensRights07/04/22 06:48 PM
1

Do you want to know what I've learned? You people like to define words differently than everyone else and engage in mental gymnastics and confirmation bias on a regular basis. Your viewpoints aren't that different from most but you insist on twisting everything into men being oppressed. You are like the worst kinds of feminists. I have tried to point out to many people on here that our opinions aren't that different and that we are using words differently but it always just ends with the person …
/r/MensRights07/04/22 06:42 PM
1

You're talking like they are and think they should be treated the same.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:20 PM
0

Genitals and breasts are different. Me not wanting to see a penis is not just my problem. It's fucking illegal and you'll get arrested. Men should not be going around scaring women. You are a terrible person.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:19 PM
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You think breasts and genitals are the same! Lmao.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:17 PM
0

Well, no duh but your sexuality is not our problem. Handle your own shit.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:15 PM
1

That is supposed to say large. Dude, you're ranting about crazy things.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:12 PM
1

You just said women's feelings don't matter in whether or not they find something sexual, you gaslighting fuck. How am I gaslighting you at all? Breasts are secondary sex organs. Babies eat from them. All of this is true and basic biology. Jesus Christ.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:11 PM
-1

I thought I was being trolled because you were bitching about how loud breasts are unnecessary. You sound completely crazy.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:08 PM
-1

You were bitching about how large mammal breasts are. I'm not upset. I think you're hilarious. I was reading your comments out loud to my husband last night and we laughed so hard. I thought I was being trolled.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 05:02 PM
0

You're seriously gaslighting women about whether or not they're allowed to be scared of flashers? Wtf, dude?
/r/MensRights25/03/22 04:59 PM
0

They're not sexual to us at all. A random stranger flashing you is a threat
/r/MensRights25/03/22 04:36 PM
0

Male genitals do not turn us on. Have you ever even spoken to a woman? Some guy flashing his genitals is scary not sexy. ETA: is breast feeding seriously a turn on for you?
/r/MensRights25/03/22 04:32 PM
0

I think most people would prefer it if others didn't flash their genitals at them. Are you really ok with this?
/r/MensRights25/03/22 04:27 PM
1

Because it's illegal to show them.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 04:22 PM
0

Breasts are different than genitals because they're secondary sex organs. This is basic biology. What kind of sex Ed did you get?
/r/MensRights25/03/22 03:58 PM
1

Well if there's space available, I don't care.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 03:52 PM
0

I'm not whining about biological reality. What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't say breasts don't count as sexual organs because they're for babies. Where have you got the idea I have said breasts don't count as sex organs because they're just for babies? I'm starting to think you're insane.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 03:38 PM
1

Why is that in stars?
/r/MensRights25/03/22 03:33 PM
1

Why do I see all these guys sitting normally then? That comparison was why I started discussing this in the first place. It's in the thread.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 04:47 AM
1

Actually, the problem is taking more than your fair share and saying you're justified because you're a man. Also the fact that this was compared to women wearing clothes that tempt men.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 03:32 AM
1

Oh my god, I'm not going to start badmouthing fat people. Most fat people don't demand multiple seats. They're embarrassed if they can't fit in one.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 01:56 AM
0

I'm talking to a guy who's angry that women's breasts are bigger than other mammals. There are some real nutcases on here.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 12:22 AM
0

He was complaining about getting banned.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:58 PM
-1

Are you seriously complaining about how humans evolved to have different breasts than other mammals? Are you joking with me?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:57 PM
1

I am not looking things up for you. Babies eat from breasts. There is an obvious reason why they are different than genitals and have different laws. You sound like a teenager.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:45 PM
0

If your big issue is that other people getting to choose their clothing, you don't have any problems. You are making the men's rights activists look really bad.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:43 PM
1

Women aren't allowed to flash their genitals either.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:39 PM
1

Your only issue is you want other people to be responsible for your sexual feelings.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:35 PM
1

The reason why matters to me.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:33 PM
1

I'm not going to argue with you about whether breasts or genitals are different. There's a reason the law is theway it is.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:33 PM
1

Social consequences for bigoted opinions is not fighting or attacking.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:31 PM
1

Showing your genitals is kind of different.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:29 PM
1

Losing weight is harder than keeping your legs a normal distance apart.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:26 PM
1

Comparing women having the right to choose their own clothing to manspreading is so absurd that I decided to be absurd back. You have displayed that you both think women need to behave in ways that you dictate and you think men deserve more resources for being men. It's not possible to debate with someone like you.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:26 PM
1

I don't think fat people are choosing to take up more space.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:19 PM
1

If you're staying within the confines of your own space, no one cares.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:08 PM
1

It certainly isn't. I will not be dming you. Other adults get to choose their clothing whether you like it or not.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:07 PM
2

Ok, I guess I don't agree with any of those things. Children should definitely go with the parent who can care for them the best. Gender doesn't matter there.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:04 PM
1

One seat per person.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:02 PM
1

Men are sexually triggered by everything. It is not the responsibility of women to make you comfortable. Grow up.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:01 PM
2

I'm not sure how to do this more easily but of you click on his profile and read his comments you will see.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:54 PM
1

But I support feminist ideas.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:46 PM
1

Whenever I express my opinions, I am labelled a feminist.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:33 PM
1

Well,he does espouse the notion that women have to dress in a certain way so that men don't feel sexual urges.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:31 PM
1

No, I don't participate in any activism.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:23 PM
1

I'm not hurt at all. I am laughing at you.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:20 PM
1

How are you defining the word feminist?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:17 PM
1

I don't know what you are talking about. Are you seriously making fun of me for being smaller than you?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:16 PM
0

I can lie down across several seats if that will make you happy.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:13 PM
0

Oh, I normally only take one because I'm actually not a completely selfish person.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:10 PM
1

It's supposed to be one seat per person. You are comparing you taking more than your fair share of resources to women choosing their clothing. Are you insane?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:09 PM
0

Great. I'll make sure to take up as many seats as possible.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:07 PM
4

I read once about how female crimedid increase when women's rights did but not violent crime. Women had the opportunity to commit crimes that they hadn't before. Violent crime typically comes from rage and mental illness not responsibiities. (I'm not saying that men are more likely to be mentally ill. They just express it differently.)
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:06 PM
0

No. Saying you support women's rights but are against feminism is silly.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:00 PM
1

Actually, yeah, they do. Adults get to dress however they want.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:59 PM
1

Or maybe I'll just lie across four seats since people apparently people can just decide to take up as much room as they want. Why stop there? I should bring all my stuffed animals, put them in seats and then the entire bus will be mine!!!
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:57 PM
1

I already responded to this. Other people have rights too. One person doesn't get to decide they deserve two chairs.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:54 PM
1

By not making demands of people who are just trying to live their lives. Why would how you feel have anything to do with how some random stranger should dress?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:48 PM
1

How is that not your problem? Why can't men be responsible for themselves?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:42 PM
0

In that case, you are infringing on other people's space and taking more than your fair share.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:30 PM
1

You said women should dress modestly so men won't be uncomfortable. Why would we ever be responsible for your comfort? How is that not your problem?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:25 PM
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Yet women are the only ones who get crapped on for our clothing. Men are responsible for their own actions just like everyone else.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:19 PM
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I disagree. I looked at your profile too and a bunch of your comments are about how women shouldn't dress in ways that tempt men. Feminists still have to hear sexist crap like that all the time. Women are considered responsible for men's behavior even if we don't know the guy.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:15 PM
-3

Having hateful and bigoted opinions.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:10 PM
-1

How is women having equal rights bad for society?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 09:05 PM
-4

No one is going to stop supporting women's rights because you say so.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 08:42 PM
-7

Saying the same thing over and over even when talking to different people is odd.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 08:32 PM
-14

Lmao. Do you just write the same thing everywhere?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 08:18 PM
-19

Actions have consequences.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 07:58 PM
-5

I don't understand this post. You're saying that if men weren't around,women would be more likely to commit crimes?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 07:43 PM
1

When there is a person who is hurt, self defense is a possible explanation. There have been victims of abuse who have been jailed for defending themselves.
/r/MensRights21/03/22 08:39 PM
1

I was trying to debate with people on here. You are unbelievably rude and dismissive. No wonder people laugh at men's rights activists. Your ideas don't stand up to any scrutiny and you attack anyone who questions them. I am grateful to all the people on here with opposing viewpoints who have at least been nice to me. I certainly have learned things but people like you never learn. You're too defensive.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 08:53 PM
1

You were just complaining about your legal obligations to female employees. I'm not saying that men exist for women. You need to hire more staff. Being angry that new mother's are taking time off work is kind of screwed up and you're clearly not managing your business properly.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 06:53 PM
1

I am trying out talking to people with different viewpoints than me and you claim I am the one in an echo chamber? Gender and gender relations is one of the things I've studied in university and I find it interesting to talk about. I've spent the last few months looking after a sick relative, arranging a funeral and then mourning. I'm sorry for posting on here so much but there hasn't been a lot of ways for me to entertain myself or get intellectual stimulation. I don't understand how I'm spread…
/r/MensRights18/03/22 05:32 PM
0

LoL. All your complaints about what you're legally required to do with your business proves that men, at least, male employers do owe something to women.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 04:05 PM
1

No, it isn't. My post said something specific and you pretended like it said something else.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 02:15 AM
1

How did you supposedly miss the word primary in what I said? Pay attention.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 12:13 AM
1

I have no idea what this means.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 03:00 PM
1

What is wrong with wanting to have a say?
/r/MensRights17/03/22 02:59 PM
1

Men are never expected to be the primary caregiver. It's like you have no idea how most families work and think children are raised by magic. Plenty of companies can handle their employees having babies. It happens all the time. Figure it out.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 02:58 PM
1

I bet if she were neglecting her kid, you'd have nasty things to say about her too. People work and have children. This is a fact of life. I think you're selfish and short sighted to not see the benefits of taking proper care of children.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 08:06 AM
1

Women are human. Saying that women's movements were not about human rights is just silly.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 08:01 AM
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Indicators of fertility are where looks preferences come from. I'm not saying men are wrong for caring what a girl looks like. Everyone cares about looks.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 04:52 AM
1

That is not how life works. Children deserve to be cared for properly and society needs to prioritize the welfare of children over the bottom line. Learn how to manage your business properly because other people are not going to stop reproducing.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 12:25 AM
1

You were bitching about babies.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 12:15 AM
-1

I thought it was obvious that I was making fun of you. It's pretty easy to denounce the achievements of women when you pretend like women are fucking everyone to get ahead.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 12:13 AM
1

Oh, I can't imagine how your employees would have an attitude problem. I'm so sorry you can't fire women for having babies. That was sarcasm.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 12:11 AM
-1

I was joking....
/r/MensRights17/03/22 12:02 AM
-2

Men also have mouths. Maybe you can give some blowjobs and you can be as successful as us females.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:47 PM
-1

I'm sorry but I think women are wearing makeup and you don't realize it. I know not all men are shallow though. Expensive purses are definitely about impressing other women. LoL. You're totally right about that.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:35 PM
1

Yeah, but that doesn't disprove what I said in any way and I don't understand how it was supposed to be a counterpoint. That doesn't change how women's rights movements started.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:19 PM
1

You just proved you are a misogynist with this comment. Smdh.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:17 PM
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How dare someone have a dissenting opinion!
/r/MensRights16/03/22 08:49 PM
1

That is simply not true. I've only been posting in here for a few months. You people are really resistant to dissenting opinions. The only reason I have negative karma is people here downvote anyone they disagree with and now you're advocating for me getting banned? It is really important to get out of your echo chamber and not just block or ban people who question you. You are never going to grow as a person.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 08:48 PM
1

Ok? That's rather cryptic.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 06:35 PM
0

Yes, but you would think men who are the same age would also want those things over dating someone hot.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 06:27 PM
3

Do you even know what the word satire means?
/r/MensRights16/03/22 06:20 PM
0

I have no idea what your point is.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 06:08 PM
-11

I don't understand what that has to do with what I was saying. Edit: could people explain instead of just downvoting me? This seems like a tangent.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 06:03 PM
-10

I'm pretty sure they started off with wanting to vote. Way to belittle a human rights movement.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:32 PM
4

Yes, exactly. Men want women who are attractive. Acting like women put these standards on themselves is just dishonest.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:31 PM
0

You're right. People here use words and concepts they clearly don't understand a lot.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:25 PM
2

Since when can't people notice each other?
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:24 PM
1

That is not what toxic masculinity is.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:23 PM
-6

He seemed completely fine with there being a proper investigation in to the matter.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:17 PM
-1

Honestly, I agree that it's only fair for men to get drafted if women also are but there's a spiteful part of me that wants to ask why anyone would want us when we're so inferior.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:14 PM
0

Misogyny ftw!
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:10 PM
-2

This condescending crap will not get you far in life.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:10 PM
6

Lmao. Men don't care about looks? Some guy in here was telling me how women over thirty five can't date because they're out of their prime. This is delusion.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:05 PM
-6

You think beauty standards only come from other women? Are you really young or something? Men treat attractive women like they're princesses and ignore or make fun of the unattractive ones. I learned how to do makeup and hair stuff when I was a teenager and the difference in how men treated me was huge.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 05:03 PM
1

Hugging people you just met is definitely inappropriate and weird. I don't think there is anything wrong with him asking her not to. I don't like when people I barely know do this either.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 11:21 PM
1

I'm not risking my personal safety for half baked notions about how it's hampering me. I don't think it's hampering me at all. Most men are understanding of the fact that women aren't friendly with men they don't know and it's not really a big deal.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 08:02 PM
2

I guess we'll see.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 05:11 PM
1

I understand that and think it's definitely a legitimate concern but my point in my original comment wasn't to pretend like women don't have the ability to hurt men. I was responding to the idea that women taught other women to be afraid of men unnecessarily. I think our basic biology is the reason for women fearing men
/r/MensRights11/03/22 05:09 PM
2

The suffragettes weren't fighting for women having full equality though. They started with voting rights. Women of that time period wouldn't have been of the mindset that women have to do everything men do. This came later.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 05:03 PM
2

Yes, this was not a common or widespread thing at all is my point. Most feminists don't think underwear is oppressive. We haven't had conscription in a long time so people aren't really focused on it. Feminist movements came after conscription for the most part.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 04:35 PM
1

The article you posted says it didn't happen.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 03:26 PM
1

Bra burning wasn't actually happening.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 02:20 PM
0

I don't know what you mean.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 11:40 PM
1

I definitely don't expect other people to keep me safe. That's foolish.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 11:39 PM
2

LoL. Well, apparently if women don't think like this, they're not normal women.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 10:54 PM
1

We biologically don't want to be equal?
/r/MensRights10/03/22 10:53 PM
0

I don't see how that's possible if women get judged for their sexual behavior while men aren't.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 10:51 PM
0

Not all women are feminists. Saying patriarchy is a conspiracy theory is absurd. Women definitely had fewer rights in the past.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:35 PM
0

Wait, you're complaining about men being conscripted and when I say feminism is against that, you insist I need to give up feminist dogma? I agree with you that only conscripting men is unfair! You're just picking an argument over semantics.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:33 PM
0

Could you answer a question? What do you think the word patriarchy means? I think you and I are using it differently. I am using the dictionary definition.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:31 PM
1

The notion that men should fight in wars comes from old fashioned gender norms or patriarchy. Men are viewed as being more capable of fighting. Feminism is against these gender norms.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:29 PM
0

I don't understand why patriarchy is considered a dirty word with you people. For a second there, I thought we were actually going to have a discussion about gender roles but I said the p word so I'm wrong. Jesus Christ.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:25 PM
0

I don't think that's true. There is lots of acknowledgement of how men are also hurt by old fashioned gender roles or patriarchy. The difference is that you weren't considered to have less worth as people.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:18 PM
1

I didn't. Please reread my comment.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 07:12 PM
0

The Duluth model is a theory on why domestic abuse happens and how to fix it. It might not describe all domestic violence cases but domestic violence is a complex issue with no easy answers.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 04:18 PM
-1

I did listen and I specifically responded to your points. You don't seem to be able to tolerate anyone thinking differently than you and your first response to anyone questioning you is to insult them and then refuse to talk to them anymore. You are childish.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:56 PM
-7

You think the violence against women act was manhating? All of the things you listed are women trying to get the same rights men have. To obtain an eagle scout ranking. To have a job. To be protected from violence. How is wanting equality man hating? When one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression. You're like a spoiled child.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:47 PM
-2

What actions are you talking about?
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:36 PM
0

Most people support women having equal rights. Feminism is not a minority opinion in any way.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:29 PM
1

You admit that there is a double standard for women's sexuality but insist sexism doesn't exist? Everything you say is so contradictory.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:25 PM
1

You're making a lot of generalizations about how women feel. I don't support any of the things you're saying women do. Maybe you should actually listen to women instead of making the assumption that we all have the same opinions.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:22 PM
-7

Feminism is not about hating men.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:07 PM
0

You're moving goalposts and gaslighting them.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:04 PM
1

So you demand proof and then when somehow actually presents it, you say the sources are feminist? I think you're delusional.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:02 PM
2

Where did I say it's men's fault?
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:44 AM
2

All of the things you're complaining about are from old fashioned gender roles. How can you guys be so against feminism but expect women to also get you out of traditional gender roles? It doesn't make any sense.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 03:31 AM
3

You could have asked a question about my assertion instead of just insisting the facts prove me wrong. I am having a similar discussion in another thread. You can click on my profile and read my more detailed argument.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 01:06 AM
1

Biology is connected to traditional gender roles. What do you think the word patriarchy means?
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:34 AM
2

This seems more like you don't have any reasoning behind this and are just insulting me for disagreeing with you.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:33 AM
1

Why are you still replying then? No, it's not just my opinion and you haven't said anything but insults.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:31 AM
3

This is more gaslighting. We aren't talking about individuals being oppressed. We're talking about groups of people. I don't see how I'm acting like a professional victim at all. Can you explain?
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:25 AM
1

If you're going to insist the facts prove them wrong, you do.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:22 AM
1

Childbirth did that? You are aware of who bears children, right? The notion that only women should do housework and childcare cones from old fashioned gender roles which is patriarchy. If anything your argument proves the teacher right.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:20 AM
1

If it's objectively wrong, you'd be able to tell me how.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:11 AM
1

For acknowledging that women were once significantly discriminated against?
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:10 AM
1

I am not looking up bible verses for you. If you're completely ignorant of the bible, that's your problem. Traditionally, women took care of the children while men provided for them. This put women at a disadvantage because they depended on another person for survival and had additional responsibilities that took up their time. Do you seriously not know this? Are you a child? This is just pathetic.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:05 AM
1

This is nonsensical.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 11:30 PM
1

This thing where you expect other people to do research for you is extremely obnoxious. I was referring to Christianity and the notion that women should be submissive. Men and women had different roles in society that obviously held women back in regards to finances and political power. Do you really need me to explain step by step? Playing dumb is unfair.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 11:25 PM
1

I'm starting to think you're just a troll. What do you want me to be more precise about?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 10:34 PM
0

This is gaslighting. I never said that shitty things happening to people is oppression. Oppression is oppression. Oppression refers to things like lack of rights or not being given freedom. It's not other people being mean to you.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:26 PM
1

Where did I say I was a victim?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:16 PM
1

You haven't presented any facts at all. You're just insisting that I'm wrong. Actually present an argument for me to reply to. Right now, you are not saying anything.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:14 PM
1

I'm tired of arguing with people who deny human history and say things that are obviously untrue. You're the one who has their head in the sand. It is obvious that nowadays women are treated very differently. The evidence of this is EVERYWHERE. It's like you're living on another planet.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:06 PM
1

No, they don't.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:47 PM
1

Do you even know what toxic masculinity is?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:36 PM
-4

You're getting confused between chivalry and women's rights.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:34 PM
2

I'm not even sure what the argument is here.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:14 PM
1

Did you falsely report me to reddit care resources?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:44 PM
1

Gender discrimination has happened to men but nowhere near what has happened to women. How are you completely misunderstanding my argument?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:42 PM
1

What do you think I am arguing?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:34 PM
0

Where is the misandry?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:30 PM
0

We are talking about gender discrimination historically. Please stop moving the goalposts and pretending like I'm arguing something I'm not. Reply to what I am actually saying.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:29 PM
2

I was not referring to that point.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:27 PM
0

All my waking life? Are you crazy? I got bored last night and started commenting on here. I do not think I have said anything misandrist.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:25 PM
0

Well, no duh. We're talking about discrimination based on gender not discrimination in general. You're pointing out the obvious.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:58 PM
-3

What do you think I am arguing? This is nonsense
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:26 PM
1

No one cares about men? That is clearly not true.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:12 PM
-5

Well, I'm only 36 so my struggles don't really have to do with women's position throughout human history. My personal struggles have been rampant sexism in Christianity and sexual harassment. I just left the church so I don't have to put up with crap like that anymore.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:06 PM
-1

How are they forgotten or treated like trash?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:03 PM
-5

You want me to detail women's struggles throughout human history?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:02 PM
1

Yep. I'm cautious around men because of a creepy incident I had once. Women looking out for their safety is not irrational at all.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:52 PM
0

Men are bigger than us plus men are more likely to attack women then the reverse. This is gaslighting.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:51 PM
1

You could have just said you don't hug colleagues and left it at that. Why are you dragging me too in to it?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:48 PM
1

That is not what happened in the thread.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:26 PM
1

People are jerks in general.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:20 PM
0

I don't know what you mean.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:20 PM
0

They're just looking for reasons to criticize women and women's rights. They don't care if it doesn't make any sense. They just want women to feel bad.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:15 PM
-8

What's the point in trying for true equality if misogynists are always going to consider you inferior?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:08 PM
1

Toxic masculinity is not men being interested in sex.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 04:04 PM
-13

I really doubt it. While men can be discriminated against, it's only in recent times that women have been treated as equals. Men have never been oppressed in that way. Instead of complaining about how feminism is more mainstream, maybe you should be grateful that you haven't had to fight for your basic rights as human beings.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:59 PM
-4

You admit that there are all these ways men are clearly doing better and you insist there can't be a patriarchy because assets get cut in half with divorce?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:42 PM
-6

I think you guys are mixing up people being jerks and feminism.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:28 PM
1

That is not really what I said.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:26 PM
0

What issues?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:25 PM
1

Many major religions have pushed the notion that women are supposed to be submissive and are of lower worth than men are. Women in the past did not enjoy the same rights. It was considered completely acceptable to discriminate against women. Do you need me to go on? Are you really this ignorant?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:21 PM
1

Do you not understand what the thread is about?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:17 PM
1

No.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 03:16 PM
1

It's midnight where I am and I'm going to bed. You are free to Google discrimination against women and try to learn something. Insisting that women have never been discriminated against is simply absurd.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:02 AM
-12

To make sure you know what you are.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:00 AM
-2

They're just mentioning women
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:59 AM
0

How about you learn basic human history and stop wasting my time?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:54 AM
-8

Because some women don't. As stated already, women clearly are doing things.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:53 AM
-11

There are charities that help with that and women are free to donate to them. I think women are doing something about it and you're just ignorant.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:28 AM
0

No. It was that women victimizing men is not as common as men victimizing women.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:07 AM
1

You don't seem to be understanding my original comment. What do you think I was trying to say?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:05 AM
0

You're responding to my point by bringing up unrelated issues and demanding I answer questions about them.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:03 AM
0

We're talking about women abusing men. Stop moving the goalposts.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:01 AM
0

You just said women are less intelligent.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 07:00 AM
-1

Not by women was my point.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:59 AM
-11

I don't care who said it first.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:57 AM
-1

How does this disprove what I said?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:56 AM
-3

Why are you complaining about women's rights being brought up then?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:54 AM
1

All women are not the same person. This is just goofy.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:49 AM
1

"women aren't oppressed. They're just inferior to men".
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:46 AM
1

You want evidence that gender roles were once different and women were oppressed? Do you also not believe in the Holocaust?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:42 AM
2

Individual people are allowed to choose what they want for a career and they don't have to get jobs in specific industries in order to not be hypocrites.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:39 AM
1

They're obviously talking about men in the past.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:36 AM
1

You responded to a feminist message by saying that men get more recognition because they accomplished more? Are you completely ignorant of human history and gender roles? This is so ignorant and sexist.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:29 AM
-25

You think women should be responsible for buying each other menstrual products because you're tired of hearing about it?
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:20 AM
-1

I know I'm going to get downvoted but women terrorizing men is nowhere near as common as the reverse. We're not physically big enough to intimidate you.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:16 AM
-8

You're just a misogynist.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 05:54 AM
-2

There are lots of men who don't have a problem with supporting women's rights.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 05:50 AM
-10

You need to look up what male fragility means. I'd never heard it before so I googled it and you are using the term wrong.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 05:46 AM
1

I'm sorry you're incapable of explaining what I'm supposedly missing. You're a creep.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 09:51 PM
1

Brainwashed by who? I am not watching a half hour video. If this were an idea with a lot of people believing it, you would have no trouble finding supportive data.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 11:38 PM
0

Then why is anyone over forty having sex? You're shallow as all hell.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 10:43 PM
1

Our biological differences are things like women giving birth and men being larger. We don't react completely differently to sex. How about you actually present some evidence of your claims?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 10:39 PM
1

Desirability plummets if you only value women for their reproductive capacity.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 06:31 PM
1

You really didn't have much of an argument to counter.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 06:24 PM
1

Not that biologically different.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 10:34 AM
1

I very clearly disagree with you on what the consequences are. Pregnancy, stds and putting up with sexist crap are the actual consequences of sex.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:54 AM
1

I obviously disagree with them and think you sound like a total creep.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:40 AM
1

Because it is. You're a sexist but don't project your views on to everyone.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:25 AM
2

It's because you're even acknowledging that misogyny exists. Many people on this sub Reddit deny that there are any sexists or that society was ever sexist at all. It is bizarre.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:16 AM
1

They've spent too long in this echo chamber and are convinced they're special.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:14 AM
1

And people on here claim to not be sexist?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:12 AM
0

Holy double standards, batman!
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:08 AM
1

That people are more than their reproductive capacity obviously.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:03 AM
1

Your misogyny is absolutely disgusting.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 09:00 AM
1

You are talking about women like they are children. Everyone knows the consequences.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 08:58 AM
1

I'm not allowed to comment on men's rights if I think speech can be sexual harassment? What exactly do you think sexual harassment is?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 08:41 AM
1

You don't get to say whatever you want when you're being paid for your time. Are you young? How can you think that's an appropriate thing to be saying at work?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 08:39 AM
1

I'm starting to think you're not very bright.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 12:19 AM
1

What an absurd argument.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 12:08 AM
1

Because the baby is inside her body.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 11:55 PM
1

It's not possible for a man to have an abortion. You can't get pregnant.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 07:24 PM
1

I did not say that what this girl did was ok.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:35 PM
1

What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:32 PM
1

I think you might want to be careful about what you label as being worse than rape.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:21 PM
1

We don't always get what we want.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:02 PM
1

Everyone has responsibilities they don't want. That's life.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:01 PM
1

Everyone has responsibilities they don't want. That's life.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:01 PM
1

The money isn't for me. It's for the kid.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 05:02 PM
2

Good point.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 08:57 PM
1

What do you think my original comment was saying?
/r/MensRights04/02/22 06:47 PM
1

Yes. That is true. What is your point?
/r/MensRights04/02/22 06:28 PM
1

I did apologize to the op in another comment. Sorry, I had an edible last night and am still a little out of it.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 12:08 AM
1

You are very dramatic. I was being lazy and didn't read it properly. I'm sorry to the op.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 12:00 AM
1

All right, I didn't want to admit this earlier but I originally missed the part about lying about birth control and thought this was another complaining about child support thread. I'm sorry. It is going to be very hard for the op to prove this though and the court would probably do what's in the best interest for the child.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 11:59 PM
1

Because I'm tired of grown adults acting like victims over an obvious possible consequence of sex. Pregnancy can still happen on birth control. Plus the kid already exists.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 10:33 PM
1

Of course, it's not ok for a woman to do that. The op is going to have no luck with proving that she lied about being on birth control though.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 09:54 PM
1

I think any acknowledgement of there ever being a patriarchy is what is making them mad. This was not meant as an attack on men.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 09:41 PM
1

No. Someone putting something in another person's body is obviously worse than people being expected to look after their children.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 09:29 PM
1

Actually, you kind of are. You're insisting that men shouldn't get in any trouble for harassing women while simultaneously trying to convince women that catcalling never happens.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 08:16 PM
1

You're calling me pathetic and weak for pointing out that catcalling happens? You're arguing with a whole bunch of points I never made and I'm starting to think you're schizophrenic. Go see a doctor.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 08:06 PM
1

What do you think I am trying to argue?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 05:07 PM
-2

Western women are doing fine.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:41 PM
-1

What defeat?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:29 PM
0

I think you're a little confused about what the difference is between bodily autonomy and wanting to control other people. Stop whining about biology.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:28 PM
0

They certainly are but I'm not sure what they think it means. People on here take offense to everything.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:26 PM
0

My excuse for what? Why would I have to prove this at all? Why are you accusing me of lying? You're calling me weak and pathetic for acknowledging that catcalling happens? You're a lunatic and I don't care whether or not you believe me.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:25 PM
1

You're accusing me of bigotry by acknowledging that past society was sexist and saying some people still are? Are you nuts?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:22 PM
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I'm not fighting for any rights. I'm debating what feminism is with you.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:10 AM
-14

Well, yes, obviously.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:08 AM
0

Then why has it happened to me like forty times? Do you think all women are just making this up for no reason? This is bizarre and you're insane.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 04:01 AM
1

That's not how rights work. Either you have them or you don't. Special privileges don't make lack of rights go away.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 03:17 AM
1

How the hell is lacking rights not being disadvantaged? This is just absurd gaslighting.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 02:31 AM
2

Do you not know what a hypocrite is or something?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 02:18 AM
1

I answered and you admitted that they lacked rights but gave a justification for how that's acceptable after pretending to be ignorant of their lack of rights. That is extremely dishonest. How is history being rewritten at all? What is inaccurate about the article?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 02:17 AM
1

You are totally moving goalposts. You just went from denying that women lacked any rights to saying that it had to be that way. How ridiculous.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 01:58 AM
1

If you're really this ignorant of history, this link goes in to more detail on this. https://www.thoughtco.com/property-rights-of-women-3529578
/r/MensRights03/02/22 01:35 AM
0

Well, there's more to life than what laws are. There are obviously no laws against a woman protecting themselves. You do seem to be a little ignorant of history. I guess I'll explain traditional gender roles for you. In the past, men were expected to protect women based on sexist notions of women not being able to defend themselves. I think this notion probably came from women being smaller and physically weaker. I don't think women were even allowed to join the army. Women were disadvantaged be…
/r/MensRights03/02/22 01:05 AM
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That's because women didn't used to have the right to do those things for themselves and women were disadvantaged in many other ways.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 12:53 AM
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But why are you defending a guy who's going around harassing women at all?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 12:41 AM
0

Catcalling never happens? This happens to women all the time.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 12:27 AM
1

You want women who get pregnant to get prosecuted for lying and entrapping men? Are you crazy?
/r/MensRights03/02/22 12:22 AM
1

You're seriously going to act like you're va victim because you have to help look after a child you created? Mras are total whiners.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 12:18 AM
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Western society is moving away from it's patriarchal roots but plenty of people still believe in patriarchal notions.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 12:08 AM
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I think they mean it wasn't really considered socially acceptable for the wife to work. How have women always been privileged? Are you completely ignorant or history?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 11:55 PM
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What do you mean by a culture shift? How do we shift culture? ETA: I agree that no one should become an outcast solely over an accusation.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 11:06 PM
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Rape victims typically do have psychological issues. It means something to me. A person can't get unraped. Why are you not pointing out to these people that you were never found guilty and there's no evidence? I am sorry that this happened to you, by the way.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 11:04 PM
1

My point is that there is nothing we can do about false accusations. What exactly is your proposed solution to this problem?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 10:56 PM
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Psychologically they are screwed up for life. Most rape victims have psychological problems. I'm saying it's easier to escape a false accusation than to forget a rape. Lots of people have others that believe things about them that are false. You can't control other people. There is no way a false accusation is as traumatic as getting raped. Come on.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 10:49 PM
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Most likely if she's saying that she'd rather be murdered, that an accusation is not worse than rape. Plus it's really not. People get accused and some people will believe her and others will believe him. That's how this typically goes. Not everyone is going to assume he's a rapist.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 10:44 PM
1

Apparently the fragile mgtow freak had to block me instead of actually replying to my arguments. You people love an echo chamber.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 10:33 PM
-1

I think you're confused about what feminism is. Edited to add: saying gender equality can't be achieved until we stop fighting for women's rights is nonsensical.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 10:26 PM
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They can't be born without a mother. What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 09:35 PM
1

Why would taking away women's rights be necessary?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 09:17 PM
1

Then the baby would get to have two parents.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 09:16 PM
1

They don't know who is going to adopt the baby. Normally, it's two parents.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 09:10 PM
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No. I'm saying children deserve two parents.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 09:08 PM
0

But then the kid wouldn't get to have a father.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 09:01 PM
1

How could men possibly have equal rights in this area? They can't get pregnant.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:55 PM
2

If he made it to another person, they could have easily told her.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:41 PM
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NO.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:40 PM
1

Her point is obviously that she doesn't want to get raped.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:38 PM
2

It was probably part of the harassment they were referring to.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:31 PM
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This is why you shouldn't make political arguments based on situations that have happened to other people.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:31 PM
1

Then why were you referencing the joke at all?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:29 PM
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You said you don't know what she told hr.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:28 PM
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You already admitted you don't know what she told hr.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:27 PM
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The joke WAS the sexual harassment. Why can't you understand me?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:25 PM
2

That IS a sexual joke.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:25 PM
2

He made a joke about her sleeping with the boss. HR considers that sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:23 PM
2

You're saying a guy was falsely accused while admitting that he made sexual jokes about his coworker.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:22 PM
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So, you don't actually know what happened but you're going around telling it as a false accusation story?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:20 PM
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It doesn't seem obvious to you.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:19 PM
1

Ok, so he made the joke and then she went to hr and told them he was looking at her and making her uncomfortable with no mention of the joke? Am I understanding you correctly?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:17 PM
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How would he know she's definitely fucking the boss? Who thinks that this is an appropriate thing to discuss in the workplace?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:13 PM
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I love how you don't actually reply to any of her points.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:11 PM
1

I think they're talking about men as a whole not random individuals who had rights taken from them.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:10 PM
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It's definitely not someone being reported for something they actually did.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:04 PM
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The joke he made could be deemed sexual harassment. You're not supposed to accuse your coworkers of having sex with their bosses. He deserves the sensitivity training.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:03 PM
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He made a joke about her sleeping with the boss. HR has to deal with stuff like that. There was no false accusation.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:01 PM
1

Perhaps they realize that men's rights and feminism are interconnected not opposing views.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 07:58 PM
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People who get raped are screwed up for the rest of their lives. A person with a ruined reputation can move or make new friends. You can't erase a traumatic assault from your memory. PTSD is no joke.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 07:56 PM
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They do. You are clearly not actually paying any attention to all the infighting between different types of feminists.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 12:34 AM
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You clearly don't understand what the word feminism actually means. It's not synonymous with misandry. Redefining words and not using them how they're defined leads to disordered thinking and an inability to communicate properly with those who are using the word as defined.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 11:57 PM
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Are you also against things like women's centers on university campuses or shelters for women? I'm curious.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 10:54 PM
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What is your definition of feminism exactly here?
/r/MensRights28/01/22 09:12 PM
1

Saying you aren't against women's rights but you're against feminism doesn't make any sense.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 08:59 PM
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Do you know about the different waves of feminism? Quoting something from the 70s seems really outdated.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:35 AM
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Ranting about isms makes you sound like ferris Bueller. I think I have already addressed how the topic of feminism is a broad subject area that encompasses many different theories. You don't seem to understand this somehow.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:33 AM
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You want me to police what other feminists are saying? Am I supposed to travel back in time and smack them upside the head? You sound completely crazy.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:29 AM
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And how the hell am I a victim? You seem to making a lot of assumptions about me.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:23 AM
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My husband made an account for me three years ago. I only started regularly using it recently. I've got to say, this is really petty. I don't have a problem with you looking at my profile at all. Is that not an ok thing to do or something?
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:22 AM
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How am I ignoring the subject being debated? I have been writing long comments for you. You're being rude and people will eventually fight back when you act like that. How the hell have I been bashing men in any way? And, no, I didn't say that patriarchy is defined as sexist men existing and neither of the things you quoted are me saying that. I am starting to think you're not very bright at all.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:20 AM
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Women can like traditional roles and choose them for themselves if that's what they want. I don't have a problem with that. I'm planning on being a stay at home mom until my kids are in kindergarten. Feminism gives women the option to choose a non-traditional lifestyle. Did you seriously just ask me about traditional gender roles and then when I started talking about them, you start complaining that we're talking about 2021? You asked about traditional gender roles. Are you crazy?!? What is wron…
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:13 AM
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You're posting emojis laughing at me and now you're playing victim because I called you an idiot? That is so unfair. No, a feminist having said something does not make sexist remarks ok and I have no idea why you would think it does. Why do you find it necessary to bash women at all? No, I definitely did not say that patriarchy is defined as the existence of sexist men. How do you think I have said that? Could you try rereading my comments? You are being rude and defensive. I have no idea how th…
/r/MensRights28/01/22 04:16 AM
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You just demanded proof of something in another comment. I'm sorry. I'm kind of new to Reddit and quoting people.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 03:57 AM
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My point was that there are other gyms. I'd like it if people started opening gyms just for men so that women can keep theirs but I suppose it's easier to just take things away from women.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 03:42 AM
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I'm honestly tired of discussing this and I don't want to go over the same stuff again. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me but apparently Americans are obsessed with fairness even if no one is getting hurt.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 03:38 AM
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Here's the quote from you: I'm not the one, and neither do the vast majority of MRA's say women aren't equal to men in any and every way possible. It's FEMINISM that makes that claim and says men everywhere try to stop women being every mans equal.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 01:06 AM
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I don't care whether a feminist said it, you idiot. That doesn't make it ok for you to repeat it . False accusation? Do you seriously need me to quote what you just said or you're going to deny it? I didn't say that the existence of sexist men was the definition of patriarchy and I'm not sure where you got that from. You are being really rude and defensive.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 01:04 AM
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Wow, you really write long comments. I'll try to reply everything. "Where, when, and how? I'll wait." In the very first comment I replied to. That's what it was about. Do you really need to be this defensive? You very clearly don't understand what the term patriarchy means if you're defining it as hate speech against men. Try reading a book for a change. "You REALLY need to list what you're talking about? What sexist holdovers? What sexist beliefs? what strict gender rolls?You REALLY need to lis…
/r/MensRights28/01/22 12:58 AM
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You post quotations about how we'd all be still living in grass huts if women ran things. You clearly are a sexist. Pretending like sexist men don't exist and feminism just imagined it is absurd gaslighting. I did say more about the term patriarchy. I just wrote a long comment about it.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:35 PM
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Dictionary.com I did that because you're claiming all these things are patriarchy that aren't. Reading what you have written here makes me think you don't understand what patriarchy is or what feminists mean when they say it. Sexist holdovers are sexist beliefs and strict gender roles. There are still plenty of people around who are very sexist in this world. It's not like they all died as soon as feminism changed society. We still have more men in leadership positions than women. That's probabl…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:28 PM
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I took a look at your profile and if women are supposedly equal to men, why are you constantly impugning their abilities?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 10:53 PM
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I was using the dictionary definition. I don't think women today are really oppressed by the patriarchy. We have the same opportunities after all. It's just that there are still a few sexist holdovers from the past. I don't understand how that's manhating. I don't understand your last point. Are you saying that the patriarchy never existed or that it's been completely done away with? How are feminists rewriting history exactly?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 10:38 PM
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If a woman were avoiding men at work, that could also damage her career. She may be less harshly judged for it but it wouldn't win her many friends or allies. Even if I had a woman tell me she was doing it out of fear, I would tell her to see a psychologist because no one can go through life like that or expect to be successful when treating half the people they're working with like lepers.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 08:49 PM
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?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:59 PM
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But it clearly was blatant and obvious if your coworkers could figure out you were doing it and it kind of is discriminatory. This is going to eventually cause you problems in your workplace.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:03 PM
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I don't think it is a fact but I will look at stats you cited.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:00 PM
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Well, if people notice you're deliberately avoiding women, these are the kinds of things people will say because you're coming off as misogynistic. Were you expecting other people not to notice?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:53 PM
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Nope. The females you referred to were adult women like me. Nice try though. It's great that you were raped without trauma but many rape victims kill themselves. Your personal experience does not invalidate their trauma. I don't believe that men are just as likely to get raped outside of prison. That sounds made up. You hear about women getting raped all the time. Your jab about how females wouldn't understand this because of our lack of career success was really unnecessary.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:48 PM
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So, you're just writing nonsense for no reason? Are you stupid? You're clearly just an idiot troll. Fuck you.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:41 PM
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When I said the police should handle it, I meant they do the investigating. You would definitely report it to hr first.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:39 PM
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Could you please stop playing games and explain what was meant by the original comment? Why did you think I was upset? Why did you ask to see my LinkedIn profile? Why did you say no one wants to hear our opinions? Please actually answer these questions or our conversation cannot proceed.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:37 PM
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What opinion did you express? You accused me of being upset, demanded to see my linked in profile and started talking about how no one wants to hear our opinions. None of it many sense.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:30 PM
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What the hell are you talking about?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:25 PM
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I'm not upset at all. Why are you demanding to see my LinkedIn profile? Isn't the whole point of a discussion board to discuss our opinions? What is this?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:23 PM
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Being raped or sexually assaulted messes a person up psychologically for the rest of their lives. I think it's men in prison that are the ones likely to get raped. I think the reason men fear false accusations more than rape because they know rape is unlikely unless they go to prison. I like how you finished your comment with a misogynistic jab and referred to women as females. You're a jerk and a creep.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:21 PM
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If they didn't even investigate the matter, she could have grounds to sue. Only a really incompetent and stupid HR person would do that. Oh, and I agree that sexual assaults should be dealt with by police.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:17 PM
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Please read the thread. I have addressed this repeatedly.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:15 PM
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The term patriarchy refers to a society that is set up so men are more likely to get in leadership positions. This isn't hate speech against men or an excuse. Western society has been moving away from its patriarchal roots for some time now but remnants remain.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:12 PM
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Acting like a false accusation is worse than rape is completely disgusting.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:02 PM
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HR exists to protect the company but they also have to protect the company from potentially getting sued which is what could happen if a female employee had been getting harassed and hr did nothing about it.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 05:57 PM
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You've been going around at work saying things like that? Do you want a stern talking to by hr?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 05:52 PM
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You seriously don't see how there are more valid reasons for women to feel uncomfortable around men than there are for white people to be uncomfortable around black people? Do you have any empathy for women whatsoever?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 05:44 PM
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I was explaining the rationale behind this. I don't appreciate the snide remarks.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:31 PM
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I am not blindly screaming misogyny. You're writing misogynistic things and are clearly in denial about it. I don't even know what fds is. I only have negative karma because this an echo chamber where you downvote any dissenting opinions.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:29 PM
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All right.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:19 PM
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You're comparing people wanting civil rights to men taking women's gyms away from them? Are we not allowed to have our own sports next?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:13 PM
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I feel like I have discussed this numerous times in the thread and am tired of repeating myself. Please read the thread.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:09 PM
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Right, I'm stupid for not thinking women's gyms are the end of the world.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:08 PM
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Oh, Jesus Christ.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:07 PM
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If you actually were an egalitarian, you would not be going around denigrating the contributions of women. I do not bother forming an argument with people who are incredibly bigoted.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:06 PM
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But I didn't say it was bad. You specifically asked about this so I responded with the information that I knew.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 08:14 AM
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I'm not going to cry if you do it. LoL.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:59 AM
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You asked me about it so I told you what I do know. People are allowed to not know everything.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:59 AM
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Like I said, I DON'T KNOW.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:55 AM
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You implied it was a regular thing.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:54 AM
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I don't think they actually do have an equal opportunity for the eagle scout ranking. Again, I am not an expert on scouts.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:52 AM
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No.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:51 AM
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Ok. Read slowly and try to understand. First you claimed everyone was intimidated then you said everyone was intimidated AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER. Do you get it now?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:49 AM
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I said I didn't see why men couldn't also have their own gyms. You seem quite intent to ignore my point about the eagle scout ranking.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:48 AM
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I just told you where you moved the goalpost.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:44 AM
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You asked me a question and I tried to answer it. How the fuck am I digging myself deeper and deeper? I am not an expert on scouts.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:43 AM
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What is their reason for this discomfort?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:41 AM
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Then you changed it to at one point or another.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:41 AM
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I read that there is an eagle scout ranking that you can only get if you're in the boy scouts but I'm not well versed in this subject.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:40 AM
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I don't belong to a woman's gym and have no interest in one. I was trying to explain why women would want one. God.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:39 AM
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Way to move goalposts.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:35 AM
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You are so childish.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:34 AM
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I really doubt that everyone feels intimidated.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:31 AM
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Well, you can't pretend like other people are stupid when you write like that.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:29 AM
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They're just trying to work out in peace. No one decided that they wanted to violate your rights. You're talking like these women are doing this specifically to hurt you.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:28 AM
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You keep acting like feeling intimidated is invalid.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:26 AM
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Spelling mistakes are annoying and distracting.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:23 AM
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I guess I just don't understand what the big deal is if women want to work out separately. There are equivalent facilities for men to use.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:22 AM
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I know but those differences are not as significant or as obvious.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:20 AM
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You really need to learn empathy for other people.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:18 AM
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Dude, wtf? This is like talking to a little kid. Grow up and learn how to spell.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:17 AM
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Are you seriously going to pretend like women don't have reasons to be intimidated by men? Are you an idiot?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:14 AM
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Being a racist is pretty much the stupidest thing a person can do. Sexism at least makes some sense as there are actual differences between the genders. I don't think women wanting their own space to work out is treating men like rapist's, murderers and abusers. Women are just insecure.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:11 AM
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I think there should be resources available for abused men. I was pointing out the reason why. I don't think that is treating you like a murderer, rapist or abuser.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:07 AM
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I was pointing out reasons why women may like working out with other women more than men.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:04 AM
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Comparing sexism to racism is nonsensical. There are actual differences between the sexes and obvious reasons for women to fear men. There aren't obvious reasons to fear black people.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 07:02 AM
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That's what the men's gym would be for.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:58 AM
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I was confirming that I understood properly.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:55 AM
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So, it's only ok to segregate based on gender if people will be taking clothes off?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:52 AM
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I don't understand why we can't just have gyms for men too.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:51 AM
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How am I acting like the world revolves around me? I can't go for it. We don't have any urinals.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:46 AM
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Then I guess it's a good thing I didn't do that.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:43 AM
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He claimed it was outlawed "back in the day"
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:38 AM
1

Then why are separate bathrooms and locker rooms allowed?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:37 AM
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No, we want both urinals and stalls exactly like men have. After all, everything has to be perfectly equal.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:36 AM
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Wtf.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:27 AM
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I guess we can't have our own bathrooms either because that's segregation!
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:22 AM
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I was discussing the concept of women only gyms.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:06 AM
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Yeah, you already said that. I was unaware Canadians aren't allowed to post here.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 05:47 AM
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Sympathies? You do realize that we laugh at Americans, right? I thought we were debating women's gyms.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 05:37 AM
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I live in Canada.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 05:31 AM
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Um, they most certainly did. I don't debate with bullies which is why I replied by saying fuck you. You don't deserve anything more. I'm not a misandrist at all.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 04:58 AM
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Am I seriously not allowed to block people who say I deserve to be treated badly? Fuck you.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 04:48 AM
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I'm sure they will.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 04:28 AM
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?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 04:27 AM
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If that's true and you're so clever and powerful, why are all of you whining online about how unfair everything is?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:50 AM
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Are we pretending like women only started existing recently? Basic common sense would obviously prove you wrong. Stop being a sexist turd.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:45 AM
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I don't understand what you're saying.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:24 AM
3

If I had referenced things like rape and sexual assault that would have just given people more fuel to accuse me of hating men and that I deserve to be treated badly for being a sexist. I tried to reference things that wouldn't be controversial or leaf to a bunch of men being defensive but apparently this was wrong too. God.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:11 AM
4

Well, I'm not perfect.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:38 AM
1

Well, yeah. That was just one example.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:34 AM
1

It was an example of men behaving in ways that could lead to women not going to the gym.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:24 AM
1

Do you understand my comment at all? Where have you gotten the idea that I have to address drinking fountains? What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:05 AM
-2

Female only spaces are more widespread because men attacking women is a lot more common than vice versa.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:04 AM
0

Is having separate washrooms discriminatory now? How about locker rooms? Women's rooms don't have urinals. Is that discriminatory?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:00 AM
1

I'm a woman. If another woman is brutal towards me, I'm not going to feel intimidated by her.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:58 AM
2

I'm explaining why women are less comfortable exercising around men. It has nothing to do with dislike or hatred of men.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:57 AM
-3

I wouldn't give a shit if there were a men's gym and wouldn't care whether or not I got to go. How else are men being excluded from society?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:38 AM
1

Ok, I'm blocking you now.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:36 AM
2

If you say I deserve to be treated badly one more time, I am blocking you. You are a lunatic.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:33 AM
1

It can't be that personal if there's enough women paying for memberships to these gyms for them to stay open. How is anything being taken out on you? It's just women exercising in a building.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:31 AM
1

That's what I was referring to. Stop moving goalposts. Saying I deserve to be treated badly for this is insane.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:29 AM
-3

And I deserve to be treated badly for explaining why women would want to have their own gym? Are you fucking crazy?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:24 AM
1

Proving an attack is not hard. Don't call me a monster for not thinking this a big deal you drama queen.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:23 AM
2

The reason they would be uncomfortable would be due to their own racism. Women aren't uncomfortable around men due to sexism. It's biology that men are bigger.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:21 AM
1

The difference I was referring to was the issue of proving a crime and convicting people not the degree of offense.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:14 AM
0

Ok, I'll copy and paste my comment where I went into more detail on this. But it's not about the men or even necessarily about sexual harassment. When I was a kid, we had mixed physical education classes and in high school single gender. My feelings towards gym class completely changed because we no longer had to worry about guys laughing if we couldn't do something so it was more fun. Women who go to all women gym are not saying that all men are harassers. They're saying they can work out more …
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:13 AM
-1

Attacks are very, very different from leering.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:10 AM
0

You're accusing me of not thinking of men as people because I don't think women's gyms are a big deal? Jesus Christ.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:09 AM
2

Lots of women do.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:07 AM
0

Please read my other comments in the thread. I have thoroughly explained this.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:03 AM
1

I kind of already did in the thread. Have you read all my comments?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:59 AM
2

Well, you do know what I'm talking about and you're moving goalposts so I called you out on it.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:58 AM
0

What harm? How is this harming men?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:57 AM
-3

And you prove me right with more black and white thinking. Try and see nuance instead of making generalizations.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:56 AM
2

No, no one is saying that men are generally predatory. I said women are more comfortable working out around other women. Women are more comfortable for several reasons. Other women are at similar levels of ability. Men will laugh at fat women at the gym. Sexual harassment is only part of it. I think I've said multiple times in the thread that I'm fine with men's only gyms but I don't think there's a market for them.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:55 AM
2

How am I being rude?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:51 AM
0

I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:50 AM
-6

If you can't see the difference between this and racism, you clearly struggle with abstract thought.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:47 AM
0

I don't know what that is.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:47 AM
1

You know that I'm referring to a place where they can work out comfortably.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:46 AM
0

We're in a men's rights thread. Obviously people are going to downvote anything where I don't go on about how great men are and how horrible the women who are oppressing them are.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:43 AM
-1

We're in a men's rights thread. Obviously people are going to downvote anything where I don't go on how great men are and how horrible the women who are oppressing them are.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:43 AM
-1

Is there anyone who can make an argument that isn't just comparing this to racism?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:41 AM
-4

Please stop comparing women wanting a place to workout with racism.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:36 AM
-44

I am definitely not pretending to ignorant about anything. If I'm ignorant, just tell me what I am supposed to know. Please don't repeat my phrasing back at me. It's rather rude.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:35 AM
0

I wouldn't have a problem with a men's only gym. I just don't think there's a market for them. It's weird when you flip genders because women are intimidated by men but men aren't intimidated by women. The reason why this different than discriminating based on race is that men and women are measurably different. The same can't be said for people of different races.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:33 AM
-60

Are you seriously pretending like women's only gyms are due to hatred of men? Come on.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:29 AM
-4

If those people were harassing you, I'd understand you wanting a place to work out free of harassment.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:19 AM
1

It would really depend on what the reason was.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:18 AM
-4

Don't you think it would be easier to just have a separate gym than attempting to police leering?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:17 AM
-4

The gym clearly wants the market of women who want to work out without men leering at them. Letting men in to that part of the gym would make them lose that market. The gym should just get more equipment.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 11:43 PM
-12

Just saying the word equality is not really an argument.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 11:05 PM
2

Was it actually outlawed? Or was there not really a market for men's only gyms? I'd have no problem with a men's only gym but I think gym owners don't think they'll make enough profit. Men really don't care if women are also in their gym.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 10:59 PM
0

But there aren't separate things because men are viewed as lesser. It's so women feel comfortable at the gym. We have bathrooms that are only for one gender. Is that segregation? Comparing women wanting to work out in peace to an entire race being treated as second class citizens seems pretty disingenuous to me.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 10:56 PM
-12

But it's not about the men or even necessarily about sexual harassment. When I was a kid, we had mixed physical education classes and in high school single gender. My feelings towards gym class completely changed because we no longer had to worry about guys laughing if we couldn't do something so it was more fun. Women who go to all women gym are not saying that all men are harassers. They're saying they can work out more comfortably in the presence of other women.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 10:31 PM
-55

But a business would know that there is a market for places for women to work out. They're not banning men because they don't like them or believe them to be lesser. It's their business model. Would you feel better if there were also gyms just for men?
/r/MensRights26/01/22 10:14 PM
-7

But they can just go to another gym. Why does he specifically have to make it so women can't work out privately?
/r/MensRights26/01/22 10:12 PM
-11

Ok, I got lots of downvotes but no explanation for how this is a big deal. Could someone explain? It's not like the women's gyms have something special or some kind of privilege attached to them.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 09:40 PM
-61

Is women getting their own gym really that big of a deal?
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:52 PM
-45

This is so petty. Women just want a place to work out where men aren't leering at them. Men's rights activists are petty AF.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:50 PM
0

Men are not the only reason humanity is where it is. You're delusional.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:38 PM
-1

And you're also a misogynistic nutcase masquerading as a men's rights activist.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:29 PM
-1

Dude, you're just a lunatic misogynist masquerading as a men's rights activist.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:28 PM
1

That's what these people always do. You can talk about a woman who was sex trafficked and they'll reply with a sob story of how there once was a man who got a splinter. It's ridiculous.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:08 PM
1

They're men's rights activists so any talk about how women are disadvantaged has to be countered by claiming men are also discriminated against. Apparently even in Muslim countries where women don't have the freedom to leave their homes.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:05 PM
1

What exactly is the difference between women's rights activism and feminism? Last I heard, they were the same thing.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:00 PM
1

That doesn't make any sense. One parent cannot let the other adopt their own baby. Equality can't exist here because women are the ones who get pregnant.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 01:08 AM
0

I'm not lying.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 01:00 AM
1

Letting someone else adopt your baby isn't abandoning it.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 01:00 AM
0

I'm not replying to ridiculous accusations of how I plan on living on child support. No, women aren't allowed to abandon their children.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:58 AM
1

It already is illegal for a woman to abandon her child.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:55 AM
1

They're not abandoning their child. They are terminating a pregnancy. There is a difference.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:52 AM
1

Because it's in her body. People have a right to bodily autonomy. You have not made any argument to justify why it should be ok for people to abandon their children.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:51 AM
1

That will lead to abandoned children.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:45 AM
1

In that scenario, you would be discriminating based on gender.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:44 AM
1

And what? It's not physically possible for a man to get an abortion.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:42 AM
1

It's not possible for a man to have an abortion. This is reality.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:41 AM
1

No, I think abortions exist and are legal.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:37 AM
1

Yes, of course.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:35 AM
1

But the only reason that bias exists is that men are stronger and bigger.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:35 AM
1

It gives them a right to have an abortion not abandon their living child.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:34 AM
1

Children's rights should come before men's rights. They are adults after all.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:33 AM
1

I think it's interesting that you're complaining about sexism while also denigrating women's abilities. Of course, attacking a person is already unfair. I'm explaining WHY men are more likely to attack other men.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:20 AM
1

I'm a woman and I definitely don't think that or know anyone who does. Where have you gotten this idea?
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:13 AM
1

It's very strange that someone opposed to only men getting drafted would find it necessary to state that men are better soldiers. No, I am not saying that decent and fair people attack others. I am saying that people are less likely to attack those weaker than them because of notions about fairness. When there are conflicts between people are when fights occur. Men are more likely to try and keep their temper if they're in a conflict with a woman because with a man, they don't feel like they're …
/r/MensRights21/01/22 12:11 AM
1

The social norm comes from biology. Women are smaller. That's just reality. Are you opposed to women being drafted or something? Why are you talking about how it's a fact that women aren't good at fighting? It still is a patriarchal notion whether or not it's also a fact, you know. No, I am not saying that men attacking other men is decent and fair. What I said is that most people are decent and fair and won't pick on those physically weaker than them. That's why most men don't hit women. Most o…
/r/MensRights20/01/22 11:51 PM
1

I didn't say anything like that. What on earth?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 11:37 PM
0

In order for something to be considered a women's rights issue, it has to be something bad that is happening to a woman due to discrimination. Random bad things that happen to women for reasons unrelated to discrimination do not count as women's issues. It should work the same way for men's issues. Men committing violence against other men is a human's rights issue not a men's rights issue. Historically, men were drafted to preserve the reproductive capacity of the country. The notion that men a…
/r/MensRights20/01/22 11:33 PM
1

This is such bullshit. There is no way every woman you know thinks that.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 10:38 PM
1

I just answered your first question. I think men are more likely to attack other men because it's seen as more socially acceptable. Boys are taught from a young age to not hit girls. What we should be telling boys is to not hurt anyone.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 10:01 PM
0

But male on male violence isn't really a men's rights issue because women aren't victimizing them and men aren't being discriminated against. Crimes are being committed. Male violence against other men could be helped by providing better mental health services for men to prevent the violence in the first place.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:22 PM
1

Of course.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:16 PM
1

What about it?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:56 PM
1

Yes. Because of biology.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:13 PM
1

The entire time here I have been arguing for the rights of the child.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:11 PM
1

I can't participate properly in the thread.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:04 PM
1

I am well aware.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:02 PM
1

Multiple people have blocked me and made it so I can't reply properly in the thread.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:56 PM
1

Nothing. That's biology.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:46 PM
1

He chose to have sex.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:45 PM
1

I'm saying that fathers and mother's should pay for their own kids
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:41 PM
0

Because if the kid is adopted, they have two parents.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:39 PM
-2

It is unless you're completely stupid and don't know how babies are made.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:12 AM
-6

Nope. Once she is pregnant, a woman has to take specific actions to stop the pregnancy. There is no action required from her after she is pregnant. The man is responsible for his own actions including impregnating another person. Grow up.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:11 AM
-4

HE CHOSE TO HAVE SEX. It's his kid.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:15 AM
2

The parental leave is so she can take care of the baby. It is not a vacation. She bears way more responsibility than the guy does and I'm starting to think you've never had to take care of babies and children if you think child support is so much worse.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:13 AM
0

What exactly do you think happens when a woman has a kid? She just gets free money and there's no responsibility for her? Wtf?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:39 AM
0

I am asking them to be half responsible for the kid who is half theirs. You are demanding women take all responsibility.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 03:11 AM
0

I was curious because you sound like someone who is in their late teens or early twenties. I definitely am not anti sex or against birth control. I think people should take responsibility for their actions. The word is minimize not minimalize. I expect both parents to look after their kids. There is no double standard here.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 03:08 AM
1

You're suggesting that women choose between poverty or murdering their baby and I'm suggesting that parents should look after their kids. Since when is being expected to act like an adult a punishment?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:50 AM
1

If you're not willing to accept the consequences of sex, you shouldn't be having it at all. This is true of all things in life. We make decisions, sometimes things happens that we weren't planning but we still don't get to whine and complain about completely foreseeable consequences. How old are you?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:48 AM
-17

Oh. My. God. No one is refusing to get a job.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:35 AM
1

EVERYONE knows that birth control can fail. Women shouldn't get punished because birth control failed. Grow up.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:31 AM
-1

Then maybe you shouldn't have sex outside of marriage. You're a total manchild who doesn't seem to be able to accept that life isn't perfectly fair. Your disregard for the welfare of children absolutely disgusts me.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:30 AM
1

They CHOSE to have sex.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:21 AM
-1

I don't care whether the parents are in a relationship or not. That should have no bearing on whether or not a kid gets support. It is not possible for men to have a say in abortion. How are you not getting this?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:17 AM
-3

I think a lot of them do.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 02:05 AM
-16

Exactly. If men stopped paying child support, women would just wind up on welfare and they'd pay through their tax dollars. There are lots of valid reasons to prioritize the welfare of children over men's rights.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:59 AM
-2

It's one vs one if you disagree. I don't see how it's possible to compromise here. You're immature because you're an adult who is trying to insist that he shouldn't have to look after his children. Come on.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:57 AM
-2

It is not possible for them to both have a say! If there's a disagreement, it's one vs one. You are coming off as really immature.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:47 AM
-5

I don't think women should be choosing between poverty or killing their baby. What you are proposing would increase abortions dramatically and it would be for no reason other than complete selfishness.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:35 AM
-2

If they keep the child, they are definitely going to have a lot of responsibility but I don't think they should be responsible for everything. They didn't get themselves pregnant.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:28 AM
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I do not think child support is a high enough expense for you to deem it cruel. Why should the kid have a lower standard of living because they were unplanned? It's not like men don't realize that pregnancies can come from sex. Dealing with unexpected responsibilities is part of being an adult. You can't control other people.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:26 AM
-1

I just wanted to add that the only reason for this difference in standards is due to biology which none of us can do anything about.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:16 AM
-11

Wait, I definitely wasn't trying to say that you should have to stay with the mother. I'm just saying that men should pay child support because the kid deserves it.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:12 AM
-16

I don't think most men would do that just because a kid is unplanned.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 01:04 AM
-3

Huh? I'm talking about how children deserve parents. I do not think that the fact that abortion exists makes it ok for anyone to abandon their children.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 12:29 AM
-10

You guys are talking about having an abortion like it's the equivalent of going to the dentist. Many women would never abort their child and I don't think those women should have to live in poverty because the father refuses to do anything.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 12:24 AM
2

How are women being infantalized?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 12:21 AM
-23

On this situation people aren't defending women, they are defending children. Abandoning your children is wrong.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 12:18 AM
-25

There are different rules because the circumstances are different. If a woman has an abortion, there is no kid. If a man decides he doesn't want to be a father to his children, there are abandoned children.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 12:17 AM
1

In the context of men's rights vs women's rights that would obviously matter. People aren't saying that violence against men is a-ok.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 09:48 PM
0

Nearly everything this sub claims feminists says is either outdated or completely untrue. I've seen multiple people here claim that feminists argue that there are no physical differences between the sexes. Now, apparently feminists argue that women are killed more often?
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:59 PM
1

And you claim to not want an echo chamber. Fine, accuse everyone who disagrees with your bigotry of harassment.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:27 PM
0

Replying to a person's comments is not harassment. It's the whole point of this.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:20 PM
-10

I like how you pretend like society is so unbalanced towards men while you're making chauvinistic comments. Your username suits you. And, seriously, college destroys intellect? That's absolutely hilarious.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:16 PM
0

Then stop engaging, you drama queen. Why are you posting things online if you can't handle people replying and asking questions?
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:49 PM
-1

No, I really don't. Are you pretending like women's shelters are unnecessary because women can get abused by other women? Because that's just stupid. You are free to not reply to me.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:48 PM
-1

You call anyone a troll who doesn't agree with you.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:39 PM
-1

Replying to a person's comments in a public forum is not harassment. What is your definition of a troll? Someone who disagrees with you?
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:38 PM
-1

Crime statistics show that men are mostly victimized by other men. I have no idea what lesbians have to do with a discussion of MEN'S shelters.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:36 PM
-1

You already refused to give me an example. I'm just telling you how political discussion work. If you make a claim you want people to believe, you have to provide evidence otherwise you are just wasting everyone's time. People who call you out on your lies are not wasting your time.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 07:34 PM
-1

The fact that you demand an echo chamber is very interesting.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 05:35 PM
-2

I have never heard a feminist claim this. Ever.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 05:31 PM
-1

If you can't even give one example of something happening, I have no idea how you think anyone is ever going to take your political ideas seriously. Good luck with the men's rights thing, you're going to need it.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 04:22 PM
0

If you can't even give one example of something happening, I have no idea how you think anyone is ever going to take your political ideas seriously. Good luck with the men's rights thing, you're going to need it.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 04:21 PM
-4

Could I get a citation that little boys were being told they're lousy people and women are better? Cause that sounds bullshit to me.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 04:35 AM
-2

Women's shelters don't allow men so the women there can be protected from abuse. What purpose would there be in having a men's shelter when most of the people abusing men are other men?
/r/MensRights19/01/22 04:29 AM
-2

How is this misandristic at all?
/r/MensRights19/01/22 04:26 AM
0

What hatred and contempt for men? Are you feeling ok? You're a lunatic and an an idiot who can't read.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 05:19 PM
0

Could you please stop putting words in my mouth and pretending like I said things I never said? You're insane.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 10:19 AM
0

Fear of attacks by men is a women's issue. Fear of attacks by women is not a men's issue. You don't fear women because we are not bigger than you. Don't you get this? Saying that men have it worse because they're more likely to be attacked is minimizing women's rights issues. The data point you're bringing up doesn't erase the fact that men don't fear women.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 03:09 AM
-1

No duh. We already went over this. Men are more likely to be victims but they are also more likely to be the perpetrator. This is not an attack on men. This is crime statistics. You seem to have a serious problem with accepting reality and want to interpret accuracy in statistics as misandry. Stop being dramatic.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 08:21 PM
1

In human relationships, we all do things for one another.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 01:06 PM
0

You sure love to put words in other people's mouths. I pointed out what actual statistics are and you're insisting that I mean all these crazy things by it. Acknowledging crime statistics is not an attack on men. Stop being so sensitive.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 01:04 PM
0

I was nice in the past and it never got me anywhere.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 07:00 PM
1

But if I'm so inferior and incapable, isn't it? Or is your supposed superiority meaningless?
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:54 PM
0

Maybe not but my original point was that I find it hard to feel that bad for the op when the flip side is people saying you're inferior because you're physically weaker.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:52 PM
1

Because I'm so inferior and incompetent, of course.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:50 PM
0

I'm tired of having compassion when people are calling me inferior.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:44 PM
0

I'm not hurt. I just think you should do the work if you're going to be talking about how great you are at it. I can't possibly carry shopping bags with my scrawny woman arms.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:42 PM
0

You sound like a lunatic. You're basically admitting that I'm right about the statistics but you're foaming at the mouth over what feminists supposedly meant by them. When it comes to men's rights versus women's rights, pointing out that women are more likely to be attacked by men than vice versa is just reality. Get over it.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:15 PM
1

You are saying it.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:08 PM
1

Compassion for what?
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:07 PM
0

I didn't say attacks were the fault of men as a gender. You don't seem to be disagreeing with me on the stats here either.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 06:21 AM
-1

Either you're lying or you don't have a lot of life experience.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:58 AM
-9

Are you denying that this is a thing men say? I agree that he shouldn't have to do anything but an obvious consequence to railing on about how much stronger you are is that you're going to be expected to do the heavy lifting because you basically volunteered for it.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:50 AM
-11

No, men are always saying they're stronger.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:22 AM
0

Because the violence they were originally complaining about comes from men. You saying men also get victimized by men only proves their point which is that women are more likely to be victim than perpetrator.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:58 PM
1

When people point out that men are also the perpetrators, they are not blaming the victim. This is said in response to people who minimize women's issues by pointing out men are more likely to be victimized. It's not saying that they are less of a victim of their attacker was the same gender.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:40 PM
-15

Honestly, women have to hear all the time about everything we can't do because we're too physically weak for it. I'm not going to get too worked up about some women fighting back and expecting men to perform at the things you're so much better than us at.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:29 PM
0

Most rapes are date rapes. Look at human history. In the past, rape happened a lot more and it wouldn't surprise me at all if modern men are less likely to commit rape because they were taught not to rape. Saying teaching men not to rape doesn't work is absurd.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:11 PM
1

Women aren't allowed to acknowledge biological reality or they're not truly equal? Wtf are you talking about? You want feminists to pretend like men aren't stronger?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:05 PM
-1

No, for your derogatory comments about women.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 04:12 AM
-1

You're not a men's rights activist, you're just a misogynist.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 12:16 AM
1

Who on earth has been going around saying that men aren't stronger than women?
/r/MensRights14/12/21 12:13 AM
0

Feminism argues that there are no physical differences between the sexes? That is just not true. Where have you got this idea from?
/r/MensRights14/12/21 12:09 AM
1

If you are pro women's rights then you are a feminist. This is some 1984 like doublespeak.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 02:13 AM
1

But you can be for feminism and also be concerned with men's rights. It's not one or the other.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 01:28 AM
0

How are you defining the word feminism?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:13 PM
0

How?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:28 PM
0

That would be supporting feminism.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:17 PM
1

Being against feminism is being misogynistic based on how words are defined.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 04:06 AM
3

The amount has nothing to do with who cares for the child? With child support, one parent is the primary caregiver while the other pays support. I don't know anyone with a 50/50 split.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 12:25 AM
2

I don't know what you are talking about and I think you're going to have to be more specific.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:56 PM
1

I don't understand what you are asking me.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:11 PM
1

Unless this is common, I don't think what I said was grossly untrue.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 06:08 PM
-2

How are you going to prove she knowingly trapped him? That still wouldn't be the kid's fault.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 06:01 PM
1

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 05:54 PM
-33

What about it?
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:14 AM
1

That's biology not misandry.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 08:50 AM
-78

If a man is paying child support, the obvious consequence is that she is the one taking care of the kid.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 08:38 AM
-6

If a woman has an abortion, there is no child. What you're proposing is parents abandoning their children.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 08:35 AM
-20

Child support has absolutely nothing to do with men's rights or women's rights, it is for the kid. Children cost money and no child should be suffering in order to make things fair between men and women. Biology isn't always fair but we all just have to deal with it.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 08:28 AM
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