| Upvotes | Title | Category | Author | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 23 | Evidence for MGTOW? | IronBear76 | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:17 PM | |
| 12 | Teaching Your Daughters | IronBear76 | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 04:12 PM | |
| 1 | I thought this was very informative video on Matriarchy | IronBear76 | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/16 10:29 PM | |
| 0 | Real Matriarchy | IronBear76 | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/16 10:50 PM |
| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | Real MatriarchyOne of the things that worried me about the shift from Patriarchy to Matriarchy that is going on is why it is so uncommon through out human history. Matriarchies have been on the decline since the Bronze Age. It is kind of like the taboo about incest. To rational mind with no knowledge of genetics or awareness of the effects of inbreeding, there is no sense to the taboo. The missing bit of knowledge for me here is what a True Matriarchy looks like. The reason True Matriarchies collapse is that t… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Real MatriarchyTo me it is clear that third wave feminists don't want a Real Matriarchy. They want a Feminist Marxist Slave State. All the perks of both Matriarchy and Patriarchy for women, none of the draw backs for women. That is what there is a backlash against. But there is little stopping a slide into True Matriarchy. Between the increasing number of single mothers, increasing representation of women in positions of power and education, and decreasing role of men in child rearing, a True Matriarchy is slo… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Real MatriarchyI don't know if I can agree with the desire to keep all cultures intact. That seems to denote to me some sort assumption that all cultures are equally valid. I also place no innate value in memes. To me, memes are merely software for the minds. It is the minds that are valuable, not the memes. After watching this video and thinking about it, I think it may be that gender equality is unstable. That cultures are always moving towards True Matriarchy or True Patriarchy. That is because there will b… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Real MatriarchyI don't agree with your interpretation of the events, but I do agree that it is a valid interpretation of events. | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Real MatriarchyI agree with most of your points but the last one. To me it felt like the young women of the tribe were torn between an appreciation of the ways of their mother (they are still there aren't they?) and desire for the material wealth of a patriarchical society (they talk about how much they want the perks of the outside world). | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Real MatriarchyI think your lack of paragraph structure and capitalization really hurts my ability to follow your chain of thought. I am natural speed reader so I use those cues to guide me. Reading your stuff is very painful for me because I have to really slow down. That is probably why I missed some of your requests. From the documentary, it appears there is no consequence to men leaving a Real Matriarchy. The men choose their own level of involvement with women, and young men raised in the Real Matriarchy … | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 04:17 PM |
| 0 | Real MatriarchyThe feminist journalist makes it clear that she does not care for a real matriarchy and that she clearly feels entitled to men's labor. Basically the difference between patriarchy and matriarchy is that men give more labor & resources to women in patriarchy in return for guaranteed access to sex and reproduction. | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 12:06 PM |
| 2 | Real MatriarchyFrom what the video showed it looked like the women build the houses or at least pay for them. The do all the work that accumulates any kind wealth and the men just put in enough work to survive. The entitled feminist journalist made a point of bitching about how the women had to do twice the work because the men were putting in minimal effort. So the men of this tribe don't have much incentive to walk out. They basically get to live in at home at discounted rent and there is no social stigma fo… | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Real MatriarchyThe men there don't seem particularly oppressed. The women don't particular lean on them for support. Even the brothers, uncles, and sons are not particularly called upon. It strikes me as more of trade off. The men give up their freedom to chase women and some of their leisure in return for guaranteed sex and reproduction. | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 02:27 AM |
| 0 | Real MatriarchyThe two cultures definitely share a lot of similarities. | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/16 02:20 AM |
| 1 | I thought this was very informative video on MatriarchyI found this video very informative on what a Matriarchy would actually look like. It looks eerily like what the Western World is turning into with absentee fathers and maternal uncles left to pick up the slack. I also found it amusing that the Feminist journalist let some of third wave feminist entitlement show when she showed surprise that the men were not slaves and that what she really wants lots of material comforts. Why I thought I would share this with the MGTOW was to show your actions a… | /r/MGTOW | 22/08/16 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Teaching Your DaughtersThat is a really excellent point. I had not thought to point out argument to a daughter. But that is the point of this exercise, to remember to explain things to your daughter that seem so obvious to you. I will have to think some on how to couch that. I don't necessarily want her to not marry a rich or powerful guy. I think I can distill this down into two important lessons for her: 1) The psuedo-status of teenage world. Basically explain to her that the echo chamber of her teen friends is prob… | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 05:46 PM |
| 3 | Evidence for MGTOW?While I am not a MGTOW, I found this to be interesting and thought I would share. One of the hyposesis of MGTOW is "Excess male attention leads to females being excessively picky and greater cheating." The fact that when humanity experienced its first population boom, the women to men reproduction ratio jumped points towards this being true. Agriculture increased human community size from like 20 to 40 to several hundred. One way of proving that this the correct hypothesis and not "wealth" effec… | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Teaching Your DaughtersIt sounds rough. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Teaching Your DaughtersYour stance makes more sense. My objective here is to mitigate the risk. From what I see of the world, there is about 1/3 chance that something is going to ruin a kid no matter what you do as a parent. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 01:20 PM |
| 2 | Teaching Your DaughtersWeridly enough I have a hard time refinding it. But I remember it very strongly from my childhood. And I remember where I read it. And I have found it to be VERY true over the course of my life. My guess is that it is not truly a Aesop's Fable. The editor of the book I read on Aesop's Fables either wrote it himself or borrowed it from another author and attributed to Aesop. That is also the thing I respect most about the MGTOW movement. You guys have realized the only way to counter the gyno-col… | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 12:12 PM |
| 2 | Teaching Your DaughtersLet me tell you my favorite Aesop's fable. I have found it to be very true through out my life. Once there a mother bird living comfortablly in a grain field and raising her chicks. The field was ideal because it was protected by the farmer from predators. The field offered plenty of places to hide. Plus the stalks of grain attracted tasty bugs to eat. However, the mother bird knew if she was ever discovered, the farmer would eat her and her flightless babies for they were very tasty. One day th… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Teaching Your DaughtersI think the fact I am asking is a sign that I am ready. Like I said, it feels like to me that a lot of the troubles you are facing are because either a father shoved all the child rearing on the mother or he was not there at all. | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Teaching Your DaughtersI imagine that it will be hard to escape the princess culture since it so mainstream. I also agree that we don't want to turn it into a "forbidden fruit" thing. But I think I have come up with some solutions. When she tells me that she is a princess I will tell her that is impossible since she was born a commoner. However I will play a game were she takes over the queendom. And then once she has won and become queen or princess of her toys, I will play a game where she has to deal with troubleso… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 10:28 PM |
| 3 | Teaching Your DaughtersI like the specifics. I will try to use pet names that don't denote priviledge, only affection. I will try to reward her for productive behavior and ignore manipulation. | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 06:38 PM |
| 3 | Teaching Your DaughtersI don't want my daughter to get what ever a "beta" or "alpha" is. If this meerly a matter of spreading my genes I would tell her to go fuck famous athletes without condoms until her looks dry up, and then whoop it up with some horny old men with PhDs at the nearest college and put the resulting kids up for adoption. Why mess with betas & alphas when there are litterally hundreds of thousands of rich couples that will jump all over a white baby? If the goal was to just to spread the genes we don'… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Teaching Your DaughtersI pretty strongly disagree with you the douchebag identification thing. There are scientific studies that show humans (both sexes) do not acquire all their facial recognition abilites and few other social abilities until they reach there early 20s. When you they young they unexperienced and underdeveloped. Teaching a woman self-respect but not good partner identification skills strikes me being like abstinence only education. Too focused on stopping the action and not enough on what to do when t… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Teaching Your DaughtersI feel like educating her about the douchebags and steering her away from them is really important. If you think about, the only reason men are aware of them is that they consider most men to be unimportant and let the mask slip. But those douchebags will use the same techniques on men they want to manipulate also. If you were from a really rich and influential family with lucrative job opennings, how much you want to bet a lot of those douchebag would come off to you as respectful and sincere? | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 05:03 PM |
| 0 | Teaching Your DaughtersThese are the ones I have gleaned from reading MGTOW 1) Teach her how to identify douchebags. Like really teach her all the specific warning signs of a guy that will pump-n-dump her. -- I think this one is really important because it seems like a lot of women have projected the behavior of the douchebag that fucked them over early in life on to all men. 2) Teach her to not be ashamed of her sexuality & flirting, but at the same time remind her that there is person at the other side of that inter… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/15 04:21 PM |
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