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I'd say if you have a giant cock tattooed your forehead, then maybe I'd agree with the poor foresight argument. I have quite a few tattoos myself, some that have lost their sentimental value [puzzle piece tattoo that was for an ex girlfriend of many years because we 'fit like 2 puzzle pieces', and she's got the same tat], but that doesn't mean I regret them. I learned from those experiences and they are reminders of that time in my life, reminders that if it was a mistake, don't make that mistak…
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 05:16 AM
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In short, the answer is no. But it has worked for some people. I met one of my exes on Tinder but we definitely did not share the same values and what is considered "cheating." If you're looking for a good woman, Tinder isn't the place to go... or anyone online for that matter. I may be mgtow for right now, but I actually do believe good women exist, they're just extremely difficult to find or are already taken by guys who realize they won't find another unicorn again in their lifetime. Tinder i…
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:59 AM
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This is new to me... maybe I haven't been around long enough. Why does the mgtow community not like tattoos?
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:49 AM
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I'm thinking that too... Going my own way was super difficult because I was in the middle of building a life with someone and I had to reverse all of it. Now, I can just go find out what the fuss is about with her and if it's nothing to stick around for, it'll be easy this time to get back to my life how it is now.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:14 AM
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It's not that I put low value on myself out of self-doubt or esteem issues. I am this way intentionally. I have no ambition because I just don't care, no career because I don't care about that either. I like my life being this way, there's no stress and no worries about jack shit. I intentionally want to be everyone's twentieth "choice" so they'll just leave me alone lol
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:12 AM
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That's the only thing I could imagine... which she'll promptly find out that I'll be instantly pissed and she'll never hear from me again if that's what it's about. I have no ambition with my life for a reason - I like it the way it is. No stress of having to advance some career I won't ever care about, no stress from dozens of bills I don't see the point in having, no stress from children running amuck in my life when I didn't want them in the first place... NO. STRESS. That's my personal motto…
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:10 AM
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Yeah, I think I am going to agree for a few weeks visit to her city and find out what that reason is because I honestly don't have the slightest clue. I'm 28 with no career, no formal education, no kids, couldn't care less about my family, and I have no ambition to do anything with my life... she's 25 and working on an aviation degree or some shit, no family or kids of her own. So yeah, I kind of want to know what the hell this is about because I have nothing to offer to anyone.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:03 AM
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Yeah, maybe. Every other woman from my life before mgtow and after have ceased any interest completely once they found out I literally have nothing and enjoy my life living on the road - that's why I'm both confused and curious as what this woman could possibly want from me... I'm a 28 year old guy with no formal education, no career that I've built for myself, and I have no ambition to really do anything with my life. Basically, a loser. I don't care to admit it. I guess I'm going to agree to v…
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:00 AM
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I guarantee the essay rant won't happen if I go through with this and it doesn't work out. I know the risk I might be taking, which means it's my own fault for getting involved in a possible mess so the consequences can't be complained about. But yeah.. I might have to pass on this.. something feels kind of weird about it which is why I'm even here to begin with.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 03:49 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that... fuck man... why can't there be women who are just normal?
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:30 AM
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I get what you're saying, I really do, but if she thinks I'm okay with taking orders and doing dirty jobs, she must have forgot why I didn't fight my medical discharge. Someone who willingly goes homeless isn't exactly a prime example of someone who is any good at obeying orders lol Seriously, no. It's not about a blowjob, that's not what my head is trying to steer me back to. I could live without those...
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:29 AM
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She's always told me that she fell in love with me a long time ago and it's never gone away... And I mean, I made myself homeless intentionally. Not disgusting or anything, I live out of my car and survive off my minimal medical pension from the Army. She's got a good job... there's really nothing to take from me, I don't have anything but a piece of crap car so I don't seem to have a real reason to be suspicious. And she knows all this and still wants to give it a shot. I would be sacrificing m…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:25 AM
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I'm literally [and intentionally] homeless and she knows it - barely scraping by with the medical pension I got from the Army... usually I'd be just as suspicious but come on... who the hell goes for a homeless guy and his dog who lives out his car? That's part of the confusion I'm having - I live this way intentionally so no one would even take interest in me.
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:16 AM
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The problem is if I do and we click just like we did before... the mgtow part of me will be completely gone. And I'm happy now, I really am. My head has tortured itself my whole life but while I've been out here on my own, it's been clear as day and I've never had that before. And I can't tell if going for this with her is going to be a good or bad thing for me... I want it to be a good thing, but every relationship I've had before has made me unhappy and miserable, which lead me to mgtow in the…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 06:12 AM
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The whole destroy-something-beautiful bit... that's not supposed to be a positive moment - the guy is literally mentally ill and has to shoot himself in the face just to fix his own head. And then of course Fight Club 2 exists [graphic novel, it's actually not a terrible follow up]. So even in the first one he "fixes" his mental illness, Chuck brought it back in part 2. ​ The guy is just insane. That's all it is.
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 05:55 AM
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lolol seriously, even though I didn't think she cared much about my retirement income, having one at such a young age is super rare. And it's always made me suspicious in all my relationships since I got it.. it's hard not to be. But yeah, I got myself a planet fitness membership for exactly the shower situation. It's paid off well so far
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 11:31 PM
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It would be but my paranoia won't allow me to do that. A locked door between me and a possible threat gives me more time to adjust to the situation and get my weapon in hand, if a situation like that ever arises. ​ And thank you, it's been a great start so far.
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 11:29 PM
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Thank you, and I certainly have been doing exactly that: lean into fear. Literally EVERYONE in my life that I told, told me not to do this and gave me all kinds of reasons not to. Over this last month, I've learned they were all excuses from people who are too afraid to leave their complacency. I love never knowing what tomorrow is going to bring. It's only been a month, half of it has been boring, half of it has been exciting. But I can't remember the last time I've been excited during 50% of m…
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 11:28 PM
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What's right for one person is wrong to 3 million others. It's all about the individual's standard of morality, and I've all but lost interest in slowing myself down with petty morality. I didn't abuse her, and I stopped the lying by finally leaving instead of pretending to love her just to keep the peace. That's all that should matter.
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 11:25 PM
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I ghosted with a clear and concise letter - if she thinks I'm suicidal and she called the police, they would disagree so long as she shows them the letter. It's been an amazing month since I started, and I'm excited to keep going. She was left with everything she needed to deal with the aftermath - if she wastes police time with missing persons or whatever, that's not my problem.
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 11:22 PM
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I have. I paid my half of the rent yesterday, leaving her cash on the table that covers my half of the electric/water [I know she can just take it and say I left her with nothing but I know her... she's too nice to do that, and even if she did, I honestly don't care. I'll be traveling in my car, come find me lol], I already got her her own car insurance plan which I'm leaving her all the details to that as well [oddly, her rate went down versus the shared plan with me], left separate notes on th…
/r/MGTOW01/09/18 01:07 PM
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Yeah, I've thought heavily on it and due to my divorce experience, I'm going the note route... it's just not worth the bullshit. I feel bad but she will live... we all do.
/r/MGTOW01/09/18 01:00 PM
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Oh I know, but to just come right out and say it? They aren't even trying at this point...
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 04:10 AM
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I never understood this shit - I was married a few years ago and there was a Periphery concert that wasn't on their tour list in my area, it was small-time secret show kind of thing that the venue emailed me about, and I fuckin' went. Didn't ask permission, just told her I'm going to this concert and she can come if she wanted to - didn't want to. And I had a great time... We got divorced about 6 months later for your standard woman-not-wanting-to-contribute-to-the-home bullshit. Didn't find mgt…
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 06:10 PM
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I'm picking this up after work today.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:03 PM
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I just got a new job a month ago and I decided to make a game out of it by playfully fucking with people. There's literally a thing around the office I discovered and it's about a few of the employees trying to get me to talk about myself. They ask where I live, I say on the east side of town. "Which town?" The one east from here. "What street?" The one my home is on. "Apartment or house?" The type that you sleep in. Same goes for my birthday and things I do with my free time.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 01:48 PM
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I see you watched the commentary version as well lol what makes it even better is the producer damn near begged Fincher to change it back to the original... and he refused, seeing as they had a deal. Stupid fuckin' woman.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 01:43 PM
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You act is if I haven't read my lease agreement - he's a private owner with a basic-bitch agreement. And where in the hell do you live where a landlord has the legal right to just auto-renew a lease without the tenant's approval? I've literally never heard of nor experienced such a thing...
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 12:59 PM
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I'm doing it knowing she is quite interested in the idea of abortion if an accident were to happen. I'm not leaving her because I don't trust or think she's insane, I firmly believe she's actually a good woman [but classically sucks with money] - I'm leaving because I do not see my future involving another person, and the longer the relationship goes on, the harder it's going to be for her. So yes, I do believe what she tells me about not wanting kids, this is one of the few circumstances where …
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 09:12 PM
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I literally had no idea this was a thing... I actively avoid going to the VA because of all the negative things my friends have told me about them >.> And it doesn't help that the first couple times I went there for the doctor [strep throat, get a hernia fixed], the first 2 questions out of the nurse's mouth were, "Are you having thoughts of suicide? Do you feel you are a danger to yourself or others?" Seriously? What the fuck is that shit? I'm here because my throat feels like I swallowed razor…
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 01:24 PM
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That gives me a bit of hope - the states in this country are nearly on an even split because "fuck your constitutional rights" while some other states are like "someone attacked you and killed them? well, they shouldn't have attacked you" lol But seriously, Illinois just passed another law that allows police to seize firearms from people with mental disabilities, even if they've proven to be of no danger to anyone in society. Which means people like me - medically retired from the army - are now…
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 01:20 PM
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My girlfriend is actually a decent person, I'm not feeling a sense of panic because of her, I'm not afraid she's going to try to screw me or trap me down with a child - her and I have discussed children many times over the past year and neither one of us want one. In her words, "I'm too selfish for kids, plus I'm 29. I'm too old to want to have one anyone." As far as what happens afterwards, cleaned up with a washrag and we shower immediately afterwards [I'm a germaphobe so that's always been a …
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 01:16 PM
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I looked into Michigan and there's a hang up for me with that state... according to NRA's website, Michigan requires you to register your firearms [handguns only, I believe]. And I am so not okay with that - I believe registration is step one in giving the government more power in the ability to take them away from you without reason... still kind of looking though - if I do for some reason decide on MI, I'll probably just refuse to register them [what mama don't know don't hurt her kind of thin…
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 09:21 PM
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I understand that Wisconsin is not a Canadian border state, but it's close enough and has an ass ton of Lake Superior areas to choose from.
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 09:18 PM
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Lease and cohabitation laws are irrelevant to me - we've only lived together since November 2017, lease is up this coming November. If I have to pay fines later for abandoning it, then fine. I will as long as I can get out. I'm actually looking in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire - mostly looking at their gun laws, New Hampshire has the best laws of the three, but I'm also looking for convenient places that are in a well populated city but also aren't too expensive cost of living - especi…
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 09:17 PM
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The only legal consequences I'll have is most likely getting reported for abandoning my legal responsibility to my half and having the charges [and subsequent late charges] hit my credit. Which, honestly, I'm fine with. I have so much debt, I don't fuckin care anymore. At least when I'm alone, I won't be make stupid financial decisions all the time and will actually be able to pay down debts for once... ironically, that kind of requires making one stupid financial decision lol
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:38 PM
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Yeah, that's something I'm being extremely careful about - told the apartment owner to contact me ONLY by email, and it's an email I created and only use while at work right now while I'm figuring this out. She doesn't even know I'm here on reddit [again, work only accessed].
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:32 PM
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Wisconsin, because it's cold and the city is an upgrade from where I am now. I hate the laws in Illinois, specifically the gun laws. Wisconsin is more lenient with gun laws, the city is bigger so job opportunities are far more frequent, and like I said, it's colder up there. I like the cold, and southern Illinois is not a cold part of the country lol As far as waiting... I was thinking all the same things you were, there are a couple other factors that are making me want to bolt out right now. O…
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:30 PM
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No, but they make over six-figures a year, individually. I know they aren't hurting for money and it won't necessarily be a problem for them, I just hate changing plans after they're made... but like I said, I don't think a deal this cheap will come up again, at least one that allows dogs.
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:23 PM
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I do... but I also have a dog, she's my world... though, I know she'll be fine. But then if I think about living in my car, why not just go get the apartment anyway?
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:22 PM
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That's what I was thinking too - it'll be an extra 10-14 hours on their trip one-way though. I already sent my father an email telling about the situation, just waiting to call him later for his counsel as well so I can weigh the opinions of everyone to see what decision to make. But I'm seriously considering the pack-n-go option right now...
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:20 PM
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Unfortunately, yes... that's a factor that I know will catch up with me. But I'm debt anyone so I don't really care about that part - at least when I'm alone I won't be constantly "needing" things all the fuckin time so I'll actually be able to put my money towards debts. So I'm not too worried about he lease thing
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 03:19 PM
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This is something I completely agree with due to my own experience involved my best friend's death a few years ago... We grew up together, met at 5 and were best friends for 20 years. Which is honestly a surprise to me, because he was such a nice person, super charismatic, kind of bull-headed but always had good intentions... Me? I've always been a bit of prick, even as a kid. People don't like me, and I'm okay with that, I know it's my own doing. But Blake, he never let it get to him - no matte…
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 01:43 PM
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I'm just saying their encouragement of women in those fields was the only good thing. I definitely am not defending their decision to be a women ONLY program. But I agree with you, 90% [if not more] of women make the conscious decision not to get involved in those career fields; that's their own problem, not ours.
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 01:11 PM
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Masturbating to porn isn't courting an imaginary woman... it's visual stimuli so I can get the deed done and over with quicker and move on with my day... which may include taking over the world, Pinky and the Brain style-MU MU MUAHAHAHAHAAH
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 04:49 PM
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The ONLY reason I think this deserves the tiniest bit of credit is the fact that they appear to be trying to encourage women into science career fields versus gender studies... not often you see female-only organizations doing that.
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 04:17 PM
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Her statement contradicts itself... "I left the love of my life because I thought I could do better" If you thought you could do better, then he wasn't the love of your life... for fuck's sake, that statement reminds me of that one little 8-or-so-panel comic someone made about aliens manipulating human hormones for their galactic comedy show that watches the ridiculous excuses humans make to explain their decisions in their "love-life."
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 02:21 PM
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I did that to my father a week ago after recently being red-roofied myself... and while he says he agrees with just about everything mgtow stands for, he tells me he loves his wife [my step mom] more often than he gets the feeling of wanting to be alone. The way I see it, the fictionally-ideal 'happy' relationship would mean that you should never get the feeling of wanting to be alone... if you ever feel like you'd rather be alone, even just once in a while, that means there's still a problem in…
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 02:16 PM
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I think the only person in my family who truly understands my mgtow desire/behavior/lifestyle is my father. He is happily married, so he says, but also says he completely understands why men go mgtow, and has often thought of it himself but says he cares more about his wife more often than he doesn't... take that for what you will. I'm just happy someone in my family at least gets it and doesn't judge me for it. My brothers think it's selfish and stupid... but they also have screaming kids and g…
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 01:17 PM
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Then burn the fucking bridge and swim across.
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 01:13 PM
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You, sir, are more than welcome here. The only people who get booted from this sub are people who are the exact opposite of you.
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 01:12 PM
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This made me laugh... and I did indeed laugh, but then I got sad really fast... because I got divorced over a year ago... and I'm still recovering from the debt... I want to see his motorcycle too =[
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 01:11 PM
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Not that I agree with him apologizing, but I'm sure his "apology" was a recommendation from his manager... I mean, for several million per movie, I'd fake an apology so Hollywood will keep giving me that kind of money - doesn't mean it has to be sincere.
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 01:04 PM
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One of the few philosophies I take to heart - I'm fairly certain FromSoftware and Atlus chanted this slogan daily when they were making Demon's Souls and the Dark Souls series.
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 12:59 PM
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Which, of course, in MGTOW, you can buy all the guns you want without someone bitching about it =]
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 12:57 PM
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Defending yourself against witch hunts are what guns are for ;]
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 12:57 PM
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I'll agree with this one. I'm basically the only person in my apartment community that is single... I'm still seriously considering changing my wifi name to something about mgtow though, it's a funny idea to me lol
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 12:56 PM
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Look at the triggered woman getting pissed off at their once-proudly sexy Superman whom they've all had sex dreams about but now suddenly are screeching like pterodactyls when they realize he's lost interest in pursuing women.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 05:57 PM
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Well... that's kind of the whole point of MGTOW man, you're not supposed to care about whether women notice you or not. I gave my experience simply for an example of how it seems most women will notice a guy who appears untouchable, which is part of being MGTOW... becoming untouchable and being your own independent entity.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 03:30 PM
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Could you reword that second sentence? Not being a dick, I think you maybe miss-typed something in there, not sure what you were trying to say =/
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 03:00 PM
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Na na, I understand. It's still shitty, don't get me wrong, but even a person who's only had a month of training is cheaper to transfer than it is to hire a new person. It's a shitty business practice instilled basically everywhere and it took a long time for me to accept that it's just the way things are... I've had stuff like that happen to me several times. I understand your age makes it even more difficult to find work right now, but I usually try to move on to a company with hopefully bette…
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 02:40 PM
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Sorry for the wall of text here, but I'm literally incapable of talking about anything on Reddit without writing a fucking thesis in the middle of my response =/ Anyways... They notice - you won't always know it though. I'm new to MGTOW [only a month or so ago have I discovered this was a thing], and I've changed my attitude completely since then, I'm really finding myself diving into to changing everything about my behavior and decisions. I literally walk differently... more carelessly, almost …
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 02:36 PM
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I guess I'll play the devil's advocate here, but I believe you said she was currently working for Kroger before you applied? If that's the case, yeah, there may be a 'women are nicer to look at' factor when it comes to influencing customer behavior, but with me being someone who's had many jobs over the last 10 years, it sounds like their decision was influenced more by the fact that she was already an employee for Kroger, therefore, she gets first choice. "Hire from within" is an extremely comm…
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 02:13 PM
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The people who declare and/or tell you that you are 'required' to experience being with a woman before you can be included in the MGTOW lifestyle are nothing but poison to the community. People like that are keyboard warriors who want to feel like they live at the top of their own Ivory Tower when in reality, no one gives a shit about rising above anyone else here. It's not about that. I'm new to MGTOW myself but I like to believe I've got the true spirit of the community and lifestyle figured o…
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 02:01 PM
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Men: "Yep, because that's how strategy works...... Str- no, not stagnancy; strategy... do you... do you know what that is?"
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 01:23 PM
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I completely agree - advantage you have over me is I've yet to see someone actually blackout; by how you explained it, I've never seen it in my life. I put it on the same spectrum as this last decade's wave of mental illnesses that suddenly everyone has... 99% of it is bullshit.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 01:03 PM
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Discussing... as in making accusations and telling people they are idiots for enjoying a harmless tv show? And then continue to bitch and moan and attempt to demean them when they disagree with your point of view? That sounds a lot like throwing a tantrum to me.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 06:48 PM
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How do you know which way their comment was directed as far as equality goes? Maybe they meant the two genders are not equal because women have more rights than men do now, when it used to be opposite. Who knows, the OP didn't clarify that statement. And who gives a shit if the person who agrees with me is a feminist? This isn't a topic that even matters, you're literally throwing a tantrum over a fucking TV show.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 06:25 PM
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The question about how woman are not given equal opportunity as men in modern society? Have you assumed I believe women are unequal simply because I enjoy TV shows that you don't? No where have I said or even eluded to the belief in such a ridiculous thing. I personally think women have preferential treatment on nearly all levels over men these days. Are we done? Because I've come to the conclusion that literally any response isn't going to be good enough for your never-ending need to satiate yo…
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 06:05 PM
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The intention wasn't to dodge the question, my intention was to act like a child so that you don't feel like you're alone here. I should have made that easier to understand for you, my bad.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 05:51 PM
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You sound an awful lot like a liberal who wants to be a victim of something. Please tell me how easy it is to trigger you with things other than meaningless television shows.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 05:35 PM
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Dude, I never declined the fact that you proved the show's writers or producers and whathaveyou are feminists. You're the one continuing to get all butthurt when we refuse to keel over to "this is a feminist show so you shouldn't watch it" bullshit. Whether it is or not, we don't see it that way. It's nothing but entertainment to us, and we enjoy it for that simple fact. Not for whatever feminist agenda you see, not for it's portrayal of women, but for it's entertainment value in general. You're…
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 04:58 PM
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Trying at least...
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 04:26 PM
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I wouldn't bother man... apparently it's got some triggering tones... which, as I believe, is something mgtows aren't supposed to be bothered by.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 04:26 PM
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I don't care what the producer/writer says, I personally don't see the connection. It's entertainment to me and nothing more. Are some mgtow people literally incapable of watching a piece of entertainment and not associating it with feminism? Is it really that fucking hard to enjoy something for what it is instead of looking for some kind of hidden meaning? The main character is literally the epitome and thinking women are pathetic and emotional tools [minus a few breakdowns he has in his person…
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 04:24 PM
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Apparently accuracy isn't allowed if it has triggering tones... I think the Library of Alexandria is on it's way to being burned down again...
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 04:07 PM
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You're misinterpreting it. They aren't "victimizing" anyone - regardless of camera time on the secretaries. I was introduced to the show by my father and stepmother, they thought I'd like it and they were right. When I talked to them about it later on, they told me the show is actually extremely accurate for how the office environment was and how men vs women in society lived and treated one another back then. The show isn't a feminist show. Even later on when one of the secretaries finds a way …
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 04:05 PM
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Hank Williams III Make sure you get the THIRD, as in the grandson lol His father and grandfather are more traditional country music. III plays more of the fast-paced "hill billy" country versus modern top 40 country, his albums almost always requires the explicit content sticker slapped on them, and he also trash talks the entire country music industry in some of his songs. I don't believe I've ever heard a love song from him. Other than him, I don't know many other country singers I could recom…
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 02:13 PM
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Nothing is on the bathroom counter THAT SHOULDN'T FUCKING BE THERE
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 09:26 PM
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Yeah, I don't remember that being rape... he was nervous as hell because he is aware of his mental state and didn't think something like that would happen, but I do remember him being a willing participant..
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 09:16 PM
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Bitch can't spell the word "sandwhich" but she's taking Gender Studies... wonder how her English Composition prerequisite classes are going.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 06:27 PM
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What data? There is no actual data for this - and I already said what works for one family doesn't always work for another, so there's no need for your statement to begin with. As far as sacrificing things, nothing has been sacrificed in my relationship with my father. At all. We have a great relationship, I personally feel lucky for that. What would not have been sacrificed if my father chose to be my friend instead? The principles I use in my daily life today that have made me successful, perh…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 02:38 PM
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What I find even weirder is I haven't known about MGTOW for few long, and how much is makes sense is staggering. I'm still processing how I've gone so long without realizing any of this myself...
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 02:09 PM
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This is true, I do as well. But I've noticed married mothers are generally smart enough to stay out of media spotlights... mostly.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 02:06 PM
1

What's crazy about that is that's just how society was in general here in the US pre-1950s. It wasn't a religious thing or a background thing, you just didn't disrespect your parents, ever. And when you were an adult and could support yourself, you could do whatever you wanted. It's a free country here, you support yourself, you make your own choices. But if you were still dependent on someone else, then you always respected that person until you no longer needed to depend on them... and apparen…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:58 PM
1

I respect your opinion but I firmly disagree. I never considered my father a friend until I was 18 and moved out, been ten years since that day and I still see him [and he behaves as such] as more of a father than a friend. It's like being a father with friend moments - having a beer together on visitations, doing projects together like helping your old man remodel his house, or rebuild the wooden fence with him that the storm tore down and you hang out watching movies with him afterward or some…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:56 PM
1

Glad you got out of it at least, it's unhealthy to remain with someone who has no control of themselves.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:48 PM
3

Oh, she's not my daughter. She's my STEP-daughter; the five year old AND her mother were quite clear about that on a nearly constant basis. And when you're reminded about how much you don't matter all the time, even though you're their literal source of a meal-ticket, you'd stop caring about swearing at them too... I'd have liked for it not to come down to that, I would have preferred to have that picturesque happy-family thing still going on today. But that's not in the cards for men these days…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:46 PM
1

I love this. The metaphor is perfect and the "terrible as distilling complex subjects down to a simple message" is exactly the point of what I said to the stupid kid was all about. The answer to what I said was simple, I thought I was fairly straightforward with it... eat the damn dinner, and the tv will come back on. How much simpler can you get? Do I need to cave-man-talk these fucking idiots?
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:43 PM
3

I personally blame technology. Social media and the internet in general has made it extremely easy to dispense political agendas to infect less intelligent individuals with ideologies that fit how they won't society to shift their mindset... and clearly, it's working. Feminism has existed for a very long time but it's never been as ridiculous as it is today, and I blame technology for that. It allows anyone to feel like their insane thoughts are respected and deserve to be heard and it's ruining…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:40 PM
3

This is exactly why I divorced her and am now choosing to opt out of having children altogether. It's not worth in today's society.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:37 PM
5

Yeah, they deserve a lot more credit for the shit they put up with. I couldn't handle it, it's not worth it to me. No woman is worth that kind of bullshit. But they still deserve credit - I've met one step father who actually cares more about the child than he does his wife; told me that he could easily live without her because she's not the greatest person in the world [also asked me not to tell her that lol], but followed it up by saying he's sticking around because she's got a good son, and t…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:30 PM
2

Yeah, I've noticed. At least parenting in society today. My parents were nothing like parents are today and I turned out to be fairly successful person who doesn't treat everyone like a doormat. But I guess their parenting skills are now considered "abusive" on any level today, regardless of the results... but whatever. Like I told the user I've been arguing with [forgot their username], people change and so does society. And that's okay, it's the way of the world. I'm just going to opt out of b…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:24 PM
1

lolol you clearly have never dealt with a child that's been utterly fucked up and ruined before you were involved in their life. And I'm sure you would have "knocked my teeth out" - my keyboard warrior alert is off the charts right now.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:19 PM
2

Exactly. I'm not your father? Okay, that's fine. Hey Casey [ex-wife], get your shit, your stupid kid, and get out... admittedly, I was nicer about it but that does sum up what happened.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:15 PM
2

Believe me, that's one thing she didn't need me for in order to learn.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:13 PM
2

I'm betting on pregnancy by 12.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 08:09 PM
12

I don't consider what I said to be a punishment, because I wasn't punishing her, at least in my eyes I didn't consider it punishment. And yes, I agree her daughter was expressing herself, but the way she was doing it was unacceptable. There was no cause for it - I turned off the TV and dinner was to be eaten at the table, as always. And sometimes she'd throw a shitty little tantrum which is completely uncalled for to me. I responded the way I did because I've been dealing with her mother putting…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 08:08 PM
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That's an interesting point of view, though I severely disagree. I feel like I had a good relationship with my father from the age of about 7 up until now. [7 was when my parents divorced] And I knew better than to question my father, ever. Whatever he said was the word of God [whether you believe in God or not] and I was a tiny little pissant if I ever decided to think otherwise. And I'm glad it was that way. Growing up, I saw most of my friends talking back to parents, parents not enforcing so…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 07:47 PM
3

Ooh, I'm sorry. Most of my relationships have never lasted more than a year and that's usually not enough time for a woman to want to marry someone... at least in my experience it wasn't. Gave me enough "variety" in female personalities to realize marriage was a questionable institution but I did it anyway and quickly realized it was a mistake... But hey, something I've learned from MGTOW is it isn't just for the young or the inexperienced, it's very every man at any point in their life who want…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 07:35 PM
1

I actually never had to ask for it with her. But before realizing my problem I was a slave to my sex-drive. Now, more and more, I don't care to have sex so often as I did before - often preferring masturbation to be honest. It doesn't help that I'm a bit of a germaphobe too because not only does sex take time away from other things I'd rather be doing [as well as taking longer than masturbating], I also now have to take the time to do a full scrub down in the shower and wash the fuckin sheets ev…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 07:31 PM
8

Oh, I definitely don't plan on it good sir. I was dumb enough to fall for it once, I am not doing it again.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 07:26 PM
2

Yeah, and honestly, I don't think I'd want to be "happy" 24/7, I want to things to be peaceful 24/7. Even if something doesn't work out that I wanted to happen, I want to be okay with it instead of being stressed out as all hell... and when I'm alone, I don't tend to get stressed out by nearly anything.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 07:04 PM
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Oh, of course not! The real father was no where in sight, and I was expected to foot the bills, buy "necessary things" a father would need like a car with a backseat even though I didn't want one, and provide food and a home for them, and do everything else a father is expected to do in today's society but god-forbid I actually act like a fucking father without being told I'm not allowed even though I did every other goddamn thing related to being one. Bitch didn't want a father-figure for her a…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 07:02 PM
1

I believe that's the same here in the US... minus the forgiveness thing. If you want your debt to be forgiven, you can not qualify to buy a pencil under credit for the following seven years. And even then, you have have to have a certain amount of debt to qualify for bankruptcy and it still costs roughly $1,000+/- just to file for bankruptcy.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:44 PM
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It really is. I've had a step father of my own since I was 12 and sometimes I really don't understand how he did it. I'd like to think I was an easy child to raise, I mostly kept to my room and played video games, never caused problems for anyone. As far as my older brothers, drug addicts and thieves. And I saw him getting overruled constantly by my mother... I don't get it how men do it. I was literally married for only 6 months before I initiated the divorce - wasn't willing to live that life.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:35 PM
9

Yeah, which is why I stopped. But as far as having a child of my own, it's not worth the risk of someone finding out I don't coddle the little bastard and I end up front page news and subsequently jail for some shit reason or another... so I'm just opting out.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:23 PM
2

Exactly why I make the point to get rid of debt if possible. It siphons your bank account... I do my hardest not to accumulate debt. Most of the time, if I can't pay for a product in whole [cars excluded, I don't make that much money lol], then I don't buy it.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:21 PM
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Back in my cuck-days before mgtow woke my dumbass up, I played step-dad, and I had a situation just like what you mentioned... I remember my ex-wife getting pissed at me when her five-year-old daughter threw a very loud temper-tantrum and said I wasn't being nice [I wouldn't let her watch TV while eating dinner] and I told her, "I'm not your fuckin' friend, I'm your father. And you're not watching TV until your finish your plate and check your attitude." You can just assume how well that went wi…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:10 PM
10

How many examples of pathetic parenting do you see hitting the media and having articles written about single fathers? I know some exist here and there, the difference between the two genders in parenting style [and resulting consequences] is staggering.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:05 PM
7

Until single mothers start vaccinating their children en-masse again, there's literally nothing that will get me to take anything they have to say seriously.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:03 PM
2

as she takes another dose of insulin
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 06:01 PM
6

Also... kill off any debt you have before spending money on other things. It's a process that may take a while but it will be extremely worth it when the money you make isn't being sucked away by debts.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 05:58 PM
8

It's kind of dorky but it makes it almost impossible to lose - but literally go buy a bucket. I have one, it's a 2-gallon water bucket, you should be able to get something similar at almost any department store or in an animal feed store like Rural King. I got a small pocket-sized notebook and I write one bucket-list item per sheet, fold it in half and throw it in the bucket. Whenever I have spare spending money or time, I dunk my hand in it and pull a piece of paper out and that's my next bucke…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 04:59 PM
2

Yeah, I don't want to do that to myself lol
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 04:51 PM
2

I love the Demon's/Dark Souls games [haven't played Bloodborne yet]. And yes, they are hard but I think it's a different kind of hard than Ninja Gaiden Black. Like you said, NGB is more about being unfair. The Souls games make it "feel" like it's unfair but it's really not; they give you all the tools you need to beat any situation, with the prerequisite that you die several [sometimes many] times in order to learn there's a method to the madness, while maintaining the fun factor. NGB... it's ch…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 04:50 PM
4

You can have diabetes AND be on meth...
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 04:33 PM
2

Now that I think about it... I never even got through Hayabusa Village on Master Mode... #shamefuldisplay
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 03:43 PM
3

I tip my hat to you on that accomplishment - I have never been able to get even halfway through it. Very Hard was my NGB skills' limit. And I remember slamming my controller quite a few times through VH... by far the hardest game I've ever played in my life.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 03:42 PM
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I'm a newbie to MGTOW but I'd like to think I'm learning quickly lol
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 03:33 PM
2

Googling MGTOW will give ya plenty of wiki stuff you might need. And starting point depends on what you're looking for. This sub is filled with well-deserved woman-hating/bashing memes and posts which are usually either quite funny, or quite sad with how true they tend to be.... with the occasional MGTOW lifestyle post that gives great insight every now and again.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 02:03 PM
1

Deserve has nothing to do with anything in life - you get the cards you're dealt, it's up to you on how you play. My father and I have a great relationship today - he fixed his shit by getting rid of his wife [my mother]. He's been remarried for over 20 years and is quite happy. I'm an adult, not a child - the memories don't actually bother me anymore. The reason I brought it up was to give a prime example that "sucking it up" isn't the right answer in relationships. If you're not happy or if yo…
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 01:23 PM
1

I'm currently in a relationship myself, unhappy even though technically there's nothing "wrong" with the relationship... then I discovered MGTOW a few weeks ago and now I realize exactly what's been wrong all these years. I agree that my current relationship will be my last, working on my way out soon.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 01:15 PM
5

You're in wrong place to be telling men to "suck it up." My father used to abuse the living shit out of me and my 3 siblings. Oddly, we all noticed a drastic change in his behavior after he divorced our mother. Today, over 20 years later, he is by far our favorite parent between the two. We've all asked him about it and his answer has been consistent... he wasn't happy with our mother and her treatment of him [which is quite similar to post the OP listed] is what caused him to become so angry an…
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 09:21 PM
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Their vaginas.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 08:58 PM
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It's sad that I'm only 28 years old and I completely agree with you. In my short life time I have experienced such a drastic change in acceptable behavior regarding supposedly-monogamous relationships that I'm no longer surprised either that this kind of thing is considered "okay."
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 04:05 PM
1

>Polls of women in Islamic countries have found that support for their FGM and continuance of FGM are high. lolol you act like I give a shit what happens in third world countries. There's no hope for those countries. Give me numbers found in first world countries and I'll discuss that part of the argument further. > Many attitudes are that it is "cleaner" and there is nothing wrong. Both male and female circumcision remove nerve endings and change functions in a tangible way that have been prove…
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 02:04 PM
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> you know nothing but the mutilation that was forced upon you. Well... My dick has no foreskin on it and I've gotten a nice good look at it in the shower everyday of my life for the last 28 years... fairly certain I sure as shit know what's going on with my own penis. As far as this "mutilation" is concerned, it's a tomato tomahto situation. Circumcision, mutilation, call it whatever the fuck you want. Literally no one who was cut as an infant remembers the occurrence [of which all should be th…
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 06:19 PM
1

Also, try to remember the amount of money you save from not getting involved with women. It's easier not to allow your feelings to become involved if you DON'T have sex with them, which in turn can save a lot of money in the long run as feelings can lead to potential girlfriends. And girlfriends cost money. And if you currently have some money that you can spend, take a trip. Get away from that friend for a bit, turn off your phone, and go explore nature somewhere by yourself. That kind of thing…
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 06:11 PM
6

If sex is the only thing your friend cares about, you need to find a better friend. Especially if they're trying to make you feel like less of a man for choosing not to have sex in the first place. Sounds like your friend is the one with a masculinity problem for having to validate themselves for the amount of sexual partners that can add to their portfolio of bedpost notches.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 06:06 PM
0

and your eyelids. Ever had a stye? Cut off the eyelids of your children and they won't get them. This argument is invalid. Cutting off the foreskin does not cause a failure in any function the penis whatsoever. As far as it's protection-value of the penis, that factor has been ruled out in modern civilization since people aren't living their entire lives naked and in the wild like animals. Cutting off the eyelids does cause failure in the good-health of the eye-ball; eyelashes are the first defe…
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 05:54 PM
3

Fleshlights have all but replaces the vagina... I haven't completely sworn off women for sex yet [working on it] and I have to admit, sometimes having a body attached to the object would be nice. Can't wait for those robots to make a market in the US lol
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 04:28 PM
-2

lolol OP hiding behind their u/[deleted] bullshit. I hate the circumcision argument. I'm glad I was circumcised. And yes, to the idiots who will argue that there are no medical benefits to it... yes, there ARE medical benefits to it. Less susceptible to infections due to dirt and grease and other shit that could develop under the foreskin, especially for individuals who are lazy in the shower. I know, that's related to just having good hygiene but it's still an issue that doesn't exist on men wh…
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 04:25 PM
1

ffs...
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 04:18 PM
2

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/r/MGTOW05/07/18 01:28 PM
4

I can sort of understand your side here. I'm new to MGTOW and came here looking for more lifestyle stories and advice, stuff like that. 80% of it memes and women bashing... which is fun, but not what I was looking for. But stick around, some of it is actually clever and funny, and you do get the occasional posts about actual MGTOW lifestyle experiences. Just got to look for em. r/MGTOW is actually kind of what being a traditional father figure from the 80s is all about - nothing but a lot of jok…
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 03:40 PM
2

Carrying a gun always helps too lol But I guess that could be the "stick" reference in the metaphor.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 03:20 PM
1

Thank you, and I'm thinking about it lol Debt's got to go first. What about you?
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 02:54 PM
2

I'm not a great example of a successful MGTOW either, I'm new to the lifestyle but working on stabilizing my ground in it. One thing I can tell you though that I've done before, is leaving. Whether you have debts or emotional ties to family or anything that makes it feel like you're stuck, you're not. You can leave/move whenever you want - now, if it's a financial thing, you can still do it, just be ready to take on the fact that you might be committing a bit of financial suicide to get things s…
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 02:36 PM
1

I personally am new to MGTOW but I'm slowly planning my future towards being true to the lifestyle. My girlfriend, as much as I care about her [and don't believe she's consciously trying to hold me back], isn't going to be in my life much longer. I've realized how much I've always changed myself, goals, and ambitions for girlfriend after girlfriend over the years. Almost thirty and in the next few months I plan to quit my job, pack up the essentials [clothes, dog, guns, guitar... that's about it…
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 02:17 PM
2

As much as I reeeeeally hate to admit it... since I personally believe in capitalism, I at least got to give her credit for capitalizing from pathetic losers who don't understand how prostitution works. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go drink until I forget about this bad taste in my mouth.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 02:08 PM
1

Not to be the devil's advocate here, but I think the thousands of raped children by them would disagree that times were better back then [and some today]... not to mention the Dark Ages... you know, hundreds of years of technological and intellectual suppression because "God." I get where your point lies in this with men being truly in charge and keeping women and their bullshit from taking over, I just disagree due to all the other things that were taking place during that time. Unfortunately, …
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 01:23 PM
0

I have a fairly good notion that you're one of the people who makes the MGTOW community look like shit. It's supposed to be about supporting fellow men who are trying to better their lives without the distraction and downright irresponsible involvement of women in their lives. You, on the other hand, and according to your post history, tend to give decent replies to posts or just talk shit at about a 50/50 ratio. I won't be responding to you any further since you've chosen the latter decision he…
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 09:30 PM
6

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me considering you had kids to work out in the process. I was a bit more lucky - I just got my official divorce decree in the mail a few months ago. Although, mine was a much easier process since there were no kids involved and she never had a job. Literally no proof that she owned anything in the house, especially since she had no income. All assets were under my name completely, and my legal fees totaled around 600-ish. It feels great to finally be free. Congr…
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 08:41 PM
1

That's why I'm having a hard deciding. Being ghosted really sucks... even if a letter or something is left. The reason I don't want to even deal with it though is I've been through a divorce where I had to do that, and it was pretty or easy on any front whatsoever. It was by far one of the most stressful things I've ever dealt with in my life. And even though Natalie and I aren't married, we might as well should be, so I know the situation is going to feel the exact same...
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 07:31 PM
0

Did you not read the title which said, "MGTOW beginner"? I'm literally just now realizing what it takes to truly live this lifestyle, I thought I was quite clear on the fact that I made conscious choices that repeatedly fucked things up. Then I discovered the MGTOW lifestyle and I want to embrace it completely. By saying I've felt like I've always been MGTOW, that wasn't in the literal sense but more in the lines of always getting this feeling of not wanting to be connected to anyone and just ac…
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 07:25 PM
2

That's the side I'm leaning towards... I've broken up with a lot of people but my divorce was the worst when it comes to the drama and dragged out fighting and BS... and Natalie and I are practically living a married life so I know the resulting consequence of a face to face talk about it will be the exact same way as I've already experienced before, and I sure as shit don't want to ever deal with something like that again.
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 06:40 PM
2

Yeah, she's noticed my sex-drive has been decreasing more and more overtime. The classic "she never puts out" is literally reversed, because I'm becoming more and more disconnected from the idea of living a life with someone else. And I'm avoiding it specifically because I don't want that accident to happen. Luckily, I have no social media and never use my phone, so accusing me of abuse would be far-fetched unless she can get someone to beat the shit out of her. I believe your method is probably…
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 06:35 PM
1

The lengthy discussion is exactly what I want to avoid. I don't see a point to it, at all. I've done this so many fucking times and no one ever understands it. I stray farther than ever from the whole, "it's not you, it's me" bullshit. Always explaining myself [which I shouldn't have to] and they literally NEVER seem to understand... It's irritating. I think a well worded, but 'short & sweet' letter, probably is going to be the best bet.
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 06:26 PM
1

Not worrying about hurting her feelings is the difficult part. I don't care about how people feel in general and think most people need to grow some thicker skin but I also have no intentions of hurting people who don't deserve it. It's going to happen soon anyway though, thank you for the response. I do agree; her happiness is not my responsibility.
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 06:24 PM
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