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``It sounds like you just are totally against dating someone that isn’t super physically attractive to you right off the bat even though that is the same standard you are so mad at woman for having.`` You added the super physically attractive part which he never claimed ``I think if more of you guys gave it a chance there are a lot of woman out there who understand the league they are in and would be willing to date someone less attractive.`` They dont. They stay single lmao
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/24 04:17 AM
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Thats a speed dating study and it shows the same result. Those 10-15 min convos didnt matter
/r/BlackPillScience14/06/24 01:35 PM
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The always do that. They have no proof then they resort to insulting you
/r/BlackPillScience04/03/24 08:22 PM
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Because normal ones just want to be friends and arent attracted.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/24 10:36 PM
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Well normies harp on about 10/10 bombshells dating ugly men constantly cause they have confidence
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/24 10:35 PM
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It can. But using Putin as a reference is terrible because most people with or without willpower wont make it anywhere near
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/23 11:44 AM
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Yes and Putin being short and a president doesnt debunk heightisim existing nor dating being much harder for short ugly guys
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/23 11:11 AM
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Point is he was. At the time that he was would that mean racisim wasnt present?
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/23 10:55 AM
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Just because Obama became a president doesnt mean racisim doesnt exist.
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/23 05:57 PM
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They really dont
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/23 04:29 PM
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This is such a terrible argument i cant
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/23 04:29 PM
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Im sorry personality personality personality confidence personality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:24 PM
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Not sure why you are assuming i did nothing but k
/r/BlackPillScience01/12/23 10:03 PM
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Seeing 1 guy do it isnt an inspiration lmao And amongst my generation i havent seen one
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 07:15 AM
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That can also mean that you...look good bald
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 07:14 AM
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Confidence isnt and we cant even 100% accurately tell who is funny
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:48 AM
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There was another which showed psychopathy does. Its 50/50
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:43 AM
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The thing is idk why you are assuming those men didnt do what you did. Its not like neurodivigent men are inherently more lazy or whatever
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:26 AM
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What the f are you talking about
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:11 AM
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Fellow tennis player here. Ive sparred and met great girls there but none of it leads to a relationship. Meanwhile my guy friends who play it semi regularly have gotten hook ups/relationships with them
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:10 AM
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`` Yes, links and an ending statement that pretty much shuts down your entire argument. `` it doesnt. He says you can still be funny if you arent attractive but my entire statement was(which he and the studies agree with)is that looks heavily influence our perception of who is funny `` You’re putting some HEAVY emphasis on “way funnier” bc that’s just…not at all true. The only thing that study proves is an already known about phenomena where people have more positive biases about everything towa…
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 04:54 PM
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AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH your sources are the guardian and tiktok holy shit I can’t make this up. He has links in the tiktok... `` Also that article doesn’t prove anything that you said. All it said is that when you find someone attractive you have positive bias towards them, which hasn’t exactly been a secret. We’ve known this. That’s why JFK beat nixon after a debate on TV. It also doesn’t help that the article very clearly points out that even uglies can get chicks if they have a good personality,…
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 04:38 PM
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`` Then prove your claim chief. It goes against every ounce of common sense and life experience so I’d love to see literally aaaaaaaany credible evidence. `` You havent proven any of the common sense. You are just saying its established and that its common sense. Repeating it doesnt make yo uright `` So you’re too cowardly and have zero confidence in your “science” then. Again, nothing is stopping you from at least trying to prove a point, you’re just dodging it. `` Here https://www.theguardian.…
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 04:10 PM
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`` It does. We don’t get to having a population in the billions with the highest prosperity in recorded history if good successful people are dying in their 90’s as virgins. `` Ill repeat once again since you are incapable of reading. Im not saying good succesful people are dying at large without partners. What i said was YOU CAN BE BOTH and not get laid. Thats the only fkcing thing i said `` You’ve literally not posted a single “study” to back up any of the nonsense you’ve said chief. Nothing i…
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 03:49 PM
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`` Yes, the continuation of the human species for thousands of years. `` That doesnt prove it `` Can you prove ANY of your outlandish claims? `` i wanted to but you said it goes against established facts and then you didnt prove those established facts and disregarded studies challenging your views
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 03:38 PM
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Can you prove that?
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 03:34 PM
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CAN IN A SENSE OF IT CAN HAPPEN THAT THEY DONT If you actually read the entire fucking sentence you would get the context holy.
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 03:17 PM
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Show me where its established
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 03:07 PM
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When did i say a good succesful person has never gotten laid what?
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 03:06 PM
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What has been established?Can you prove where it has been established that attracitvness doesnt influence how we percieve people?
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:58 PM
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Anyone can but doesnt mean they will. A person who achives success works hard and is a good person can never get laid. Thats the point
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:58 PM
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I mean i can send them if you want
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:51 PM
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I mean it just blatantly is `` Correct. Turns out that if you can show people you’re able to achieve goals, be successful, and not be a shitty person, people will be attracted to you regardless of how you look `` Plenty of shitty people get laid As well as the fact that you said REGARDLESS of how you look and presented it as an universal fact. Both times fallacious
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:51 PM
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Nope. I can send studies about it
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:50 PM
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They do
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:03 PM
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Its a just world fallacy and hasty generelization
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:03 PM
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There are multiple studies done showing that people cant accurately tell who is funny
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:03 PM
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Ugh no?This is just fallacious
/r/BlackPillScience23/11/23 01:59 PM
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``` But also not really? Women in relationships generally don’t care about looks as much as guys do. `` Multiple studies show its close/equal or that they care more
/r/BlackPillScience23/11/23 01:58 PM
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It unfortunately is. People cant even tell who is funny lmao
/r/BlackPillScience23/11/23 01:58 PM
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I do go around. Ugly short guys with gfs are rare let alone with hot ones
/r/BlackPillScience18/11/23 12:36 AM
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I mean sure. But when stats say vast majority in multiple studies and in real life none wants you yeah
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 09:51 PM
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Doesnt help
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:18 PM
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I dont. Im memeing bluepillers who say this but then tell you that you have high standards
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 03:59 AM
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I am talking romantically. People do care when it comes to whom they will date ``And you didn't go out. You don't have friends.`` I do go out and just this friday i went to my girl friend and we made ``palacinke``
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 03:16 AM
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I dont take offense because i know its not true. Im legit laughing at how you were accusing me of crying and seething and then you type shit like this Yes i do go out and have been going out a lot since my teens. No it doesnt change crap when you are ugly and short
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 03:03 AM
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Never has
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:57 AM
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Lets hear that advice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:57 AM
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No i know its your baseless opinion. Its just funny how you are stating it as fact constantly and how emotional you are over it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:47 AM
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```If you can't see that you hate women, maybe I can see that you like them. I linked you an example I thought would work, and you think it's normal`` You didnt elaborate as to why it is. You just linked it and said ALL of it is hatred. ``Why don't you link me something to help me understand you?`` I dont compliment or hate on anyone here im just debating But for example with delusiondebate(bozo got banned for the 4th time) i talked about hanging out with my female best friend and how great she …
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:44 AM
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`` You will just never find them because you never, ever go out because you have no friends or life.`` Proof for any of that?
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:42 AM
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Dont switch topics. Answer this question
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:40 AM
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Weasels?Im litterally debating right now what the fuck are you talking about?If you want to he and i can debate on vc in front of you ``Women don't respect weasels`` Women are not a hivemind ``It's also why you're completely alone, because men don't respect them either.`` Have plenty of great female and male friends actually
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:38 AM
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These were comments people have told me and if you want to i can find some comments saying it. And no nowhere is it hating. If you are going to claim its all you are auto losing ``)We dont want men to think we want to date them so we dont compliment them!`` Where is the hate?Tell me
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:37 AM
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Quote the hate part
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:34 AM
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Why would i when what he im not having a discussion with him?Tell him that and if he disagrees you auto win the debate. Not a hard thing to do. Also he unlike you doesnt claim to have a great personality
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:34 AM
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``You hate how fucking good I am at this game huh? When you're correct, instead of being wilfully ignorant, arguments become really easy because reality is on my side`` Good at what?Good at lying? ``he problem is your hatred of women and opinions about life are contradicted by everyone. Every disagreement you have, you're on the side of fantasy`` Cite where i showed hatred. Come on `` That's why you're effortlessly being owned even when you're trying this tedious semantic pedantry.`` OWNED?You a…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:31 AM
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1)At least dont lie 2)Yes if you are going to berate someone i expect you to back it up in a debate sub
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:30 AM
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1)Prove it has 99.9% Also YOU LEGIT DID WHAT `FACT: You are in here crying.`` Why are you lying
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:27 AM
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Then dont say its a fact
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:24 AM
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Prove that
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:21 AM
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``But that's just my opinion. Like I said 20 posts ago, there's probably lots of people who are looking at your posts and thinking 'wow, this guy is normal and not mad'.`` Then dont say its FACT: how hard is that to understand? ``My dude, you are 20 comments deep semantically embarrassing yourself. ` ` Whats embarrasing about challangeing your statements? ``The quantity of your time and attention to this thread regardless of the actual content of your posts here show you have BIG FEELINGS toward…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:18 AM
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``FACT: You are in here crying.`` Asking you to prove it for the 10th time now Also you just said me crying and whining isnt a fact but your subjective opinion
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:03 AM
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This is not a contradiction. I gave my opinion in the first sentence, and acknowledge that my opinion is subjective in the second. Moronic. So its subjective but you used OCCAMS RAZOR to prove your point via subjective opinions?What ``This literally, literally does not make sense. The subjectivity of Occam's razor has absolutely no correlation with how the concept of Occam's razor relates to my quote. None. This is literal gibberish.`` yes it does. 2 sides take multiple facts and then the one wh…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:00 AM
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You arent embarassing anyone since you have contradicted yourself First you agreed that if anyone comments and dissagrees with you is just self pitying and whining. But then you backtracked and didnt potray it as truth but as something subjective `` one should prefer the one that requires the fewest assumptions`` ``A loser is in a thread about self pity being for losers and is aggressively crying and whining. Why would that be?`` What you said here has no correlation with occams razor because yo…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:51 AM
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Wait hold on. Isnt beauty subjective?One mans mid woman can be another ones pretty. it wouldnt make mens standards high right?
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:36 AM
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No occams razor is not subjective at all and thats not its definition LMFAO As i said point to where im whining and crying. All im asking you is to back up what you use as evidence. Is that too hard for your wonderful personality?
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:33 AM
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City where i was agrressive towards you or whining. All i did was ask you to back up what you are saying instead of trying to do a gothca that if anyone disagrees with you they must be x y z Thats not how occams razor works :)
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:54 AM
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I mean as long as a chad has a few hooks ups or fwbs thats enough
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:29 AM
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God no. I am asking you to prove it applies to my comments. Are you unable to read?
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:29 AM
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I mean both genders are chronically online amongst genz And older men do better in the sense they arent virgins. But divorce rate indicates most are in bad situations
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:03 AM
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Basically women who arent single are in fwbs/hook ups or some are dating older. While other men have multiple women either while they are in relationships or in rotation(ie they have 5 fwbs)
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:02 AM
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``No, I said a dead guy thinks your behaviour is pathetic and that is demonstrably true using a quote..`` I asked you to prove why that quote is true/applicable in this context not whether or not the quote itself exists.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:01 AM
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``If looks were the only thing that matters, there would be no break-ups.`` I mean everyone here says to get your foot into the door. If you fuck up as a good looking man thats completely on you. ``In this aspect, some of the people have gone too far away on this subreddit. I've even seen some comments claiming that Gerbert Johnson is becoming famous just because he's handsome but other blackpilled guys didn't because they are ugly etc. Is it really that simple, guys? For example, how many times…
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 08:29 PM
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I never said anything about it?I just said that normies absoloutely use it as an insult online
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:23 PM
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No its used as an insult. Yikes maybe take a shower and a girl wouldnt be disgusted by you?-something ive heard a lot in my life
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:09 PM
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If you accuse someone of something on a debate sub you should back it up
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:58 PM
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I didnt ask you to prove the quote exists.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:58 PM
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What of my comments here had anything to do with self pity?
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:46 AM
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Prove its true
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:46 AM
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None is hysterical. You are just using it as some kind of evidence and if someone disagrees with it they must be x y z
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:59 AM
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So much for the debate part lmao I would like you to try and prove this but you cant
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:59 AM
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Why does his opinion matter? ``If I am mean to you, there is a really, really good chance it's because you are an affront to this quote`` Lmao at this. Dont justify you being a massive fucking asshole. If this is your stance you wouldnt be apologizing every other day.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 02:45 AM
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You are basically making it so that anyone who dares to disagree is just wrong by default
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 02:44 AM
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They are both absoloute trainwrecks and he seems to be abusing her and is far from having a good personality
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:43 PM
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Huh?
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:02 PM
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It was totally made up dont worry!Keep living in your bubble
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:01 PM
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Yeah except a lot of these things did happen to me
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:01 PM
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The gap isnt anywhere near 30% especially in youth
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:06 PM
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Where does it say 50%
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:05 PM
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1)Yes but they still married. It didnt prevent them from actually marrying(And btw where is the personality detector there?) 2)Send me that stat
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:26 PM
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There isnt any reason for a gender that pursues, is hornier and remarries more somehow is only single because most of them can date but choose not to
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:54 PM
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Astrology and facts like looks and height arent the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:51 PM
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Accurate
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:50 PM
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Actually we cant exactly tell who is funny. This was confirmed by studies
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:55 PM
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I mean its for sure not of his great personality before bluepillers jump on this lol
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:16 AM
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yeah except tellign your bfs to wear condoms WILL NOT lead you to perpetually being single
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:12 AM
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You mentioned that a lot of women choose to be single. But saying men can do it too and that the problems are comprable is absoloutely not the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:57 PM
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It wont
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:43 PM
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A lot of women do choose to stay single btw. Not because 50 of their boyfriends wont wear condoms lmao
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:09 PM
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Men will then mostly be single. You wont be perma single if you tell your boyfriends to wear condoms
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:25 PM
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Men can refuse what
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 05:20 PM
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And you can just refuse,,?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:34 PM
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I mean you are yet to
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:50 AM
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Fastro you already got debunked by me 50 times
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 11:23 PM
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None in the history said that anyone below sub 8 hasnt gotten in a relationship
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 11:19 PM
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It does because the insults are almost NEVER about personality
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:20 AM
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Hey bro leave some for the rest of us
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:16 AM
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People irl dont tell me that since i have bunch of girl friends People on the internet make an assumption and then if i do tell them i am nice they tell me i must be faking it See where the problem is?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:09 PM
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Huh?This wasnt directed at women but anyone who says this and he was MOCKING those people. Its not that i dont take agression seriously its that he wasnt being agressive just an ass to those people
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:19 PM
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1)It doesnt provide hope because half the time its clearly larp 2)It contradicts a lot of their statements/beliefs that they have on beauty
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:10 PM
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Dont they have personality detectors?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:09 PM
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At worst its mocking to the people who say it
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:08 PM
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1)An ugly guy cant slay, not that an average-above average guy cant. Especially if he lowers his standards 2)``Status is irrelevant“ theory.`` Who said this though?We acknowledge that status and money can get you into a relationship but it wont buy you actual attraction. And getting that kind of actor level status is kind of impossible for 95% of men
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:31 AM
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Read the rest of my comment
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:27 AM
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My friend group constantly gets hit on by girls at clubs/parties or when we meet friend of a friend Suddenly women dont mind dating within friend groups when its with my attractive friends
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:21 PM
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Mate 230 is better than most men can do
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:06 PM
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I see it constantly lmao
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:05 PM
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But thats not when the be nice is brought up. Its used as a gotcha:you must not be a nice person! Oh you are?Well thats just because you want sex!!!!!!!!!!1 Baseless shitty assumptions
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:03 PM
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1)Its not n act 2)I view them as people. That doesnt make them want to fuck
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:03 PM
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Nope. I was nice and still am to people who i dont want to fuck
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:02 PM
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```How often do you change your mind ? Seems like you only agree with the extreme minority in here, may the issue be the common denominator`` This is a fallacious argument
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:01 PM
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Nothing he said is dangerous stop being dramatic
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 07:58 PM
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``Proof of you seething`` Crazy how that thread has nothing to do with this topic. And god forbid someone feels bad over the 100th rejection! ``You clearly don’t think looks are subjective`` I dont but women claim beauty is subjective. Im using that argument against yall
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 05:20 PM
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Who is seething?Im just asking you questions that you seemingly cant answer
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:47 AM
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You can rate someone and still think beauty is subjective .its not mutually exclusive
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:42 AM
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Its not since i dont consider it fumbiling
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:40 PM
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Yeah im using womens logic
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:18 PM
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I dont really. I approached 100+ and can observe women when they are interested in my friends. Never had the same reaction or gaze from them like when my friends walk in And yes if you dont find anyone and magically do after specifically 30 its more than likely settiling down
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:16 PM
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I used to go every weekend or friday
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:15 PM
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Im not insecure. Im objectively below average height and i have no issues with my face. Other poeple do
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:28 PM
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Yes. Doesnt make them want to fuck a guy who is ugly and short
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:24 PM
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Tiktok
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:03 PM
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Yeah well not in my case
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:03 PM
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Men should not simp or worship lmao
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:24 PM
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Fortunately for us we arent fcking up anything because unlike OP we dont have women hitting on us
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:23 PM
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So real
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:22 PM
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Where is your basis for probs?
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:21 PM
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There is no ugly and pretty if beauty is subjective
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:17 PM
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Havent seen an attractive guy on tt give an ick
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:15 PM
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That doesnt mean personality on its own makes you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:14 PM
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Same but i never actually had any attention
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:11 AM
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But dont they like confident men fawning over them
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:11 AM
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You are assuming he didnt have it
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 10:07 PM
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If he worked on himself and it didnt work i dont mind it
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 09:49 PM
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Thats actually crazy. Happened to me a couple of times
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 07:22 PM
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I have nothing against self improvement. I have it when just focus on yourself bro is used in irrelevant context
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 06:45 PM
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So his only hope is that women who would otherwise reject him dont because its harder?XD
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 06:22 PM
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You could not because nothing i said there implies it You were laughing at him(And not the first time you did about this topic) of mysiogony/bad personality not really being a hindrance if you are attractive. Which is why i said that yes shitty men do get into relationships and laid. Nothing,i repeat nothing i said there implied women owe me anything because im nice
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:41 PM
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Not sure how you jumped to that conclusion?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:30 PM
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Just focus on yourself bro
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:20 PM
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Yeah so you get hit on. I never have. Meaning you arent ugly like us and you are of average height
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:17 PM
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This was too funny
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:45 PM
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I mean yes shitty men do get laid and get away with a lot of stuff if they are attractive
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:04 PM
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Let us hear your secret!!1!
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:02 PM
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Responses are usually oh wow/thats sad and then they switch topics In my language the phrase would be:e jbg
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 10:08 PM
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Women can open up to me all the time but vice versa doesnt apply
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:47 PM
1

Yes from my experience most men i know can have deep talks with their father or have 3 am convos about life with homies .
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:44 PM
1

Can you prove its most?
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:38 PM
1

Yeah so why did you even mention the whole male peers part?Unless you can prove most male friendships are unsuccesful.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:34 PM
1

Or talk to his friends about it Btw i can spin this right back at you for the whole male peers thing. This wouldnt apply any less to close friendships
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:29 PM
1

``They dont encourage it less than fathers. Like I said women do most of the emotional nurturing.`` I can send the study that proves otherwise ``And no, it’s not irrelevant. In all succesfull relationships the guy can open up to his wife/gf (a lot)`` Can you prove its in all?
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:25 PM
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``A lot of fathers do not encourage sons to show emotions because they themselves do not know how to do it well.`` Funny YET WOMEN ENCOURAGE IT LES THAN FATHERS ``And man, if you cant even open up to your own fucking GF/wife that relationship was doomed from the beginning`` Cool, irrelevant to my point
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:23 PM
1

``Women do most of the emotional nurturing when having a child. Fathers are often told not to show their emotions and to be a “rock” for the family and “be strong”.`` Im talking about teaching their boys not to show emotions. If fathers were suffering from toxic masculinity so much they would then say boys dont cry at a higher rate ``Most men cant say the same.`` Most men also cant say that they can open up to their gfs/wives
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:17 PM
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``Both false. Toxic masculinity because among male peers it’s considered feminine to talk about your feelings (even with male friends)`` It isnt amongst mine ``And yes there are women who will use it against you. We are talking about averages here. It’s a biological fact that women are more empathetic than men`` Weird how they are less empathetic towards their male children than their fathers.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:11 PM
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Toxic masculinity yet fathers promote it less?More empathetic yet more likely to not give a fuck if you open up or use it against you lmao
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:03 PM
1

Yep. Studies show mothers much more often than father promote boys dont cry. Most male friends i have also share the experience of how opening up to your female friends(or their gfs) is a risky thing to do and usually backfires or they dont care all too much.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:59 PM
1

``No need to insult. Stop the ad hominems.`` There absoloutely is when you are the one doing it ``Yeahh it’s definitely not the giga majority that doesn’t care about mens feelings.`` There we can dissagree on that. Thats fine if you think otherwise ``Yes you have a hard time compared to attractive men. Doesn’t mean you can give up like a defeated loser in your early 20s lol`` You said its blaming external factors and not doing anything about it when you agree that the external factors>personalit…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:54 PM
1

women dont give a crap Yes as you said here it could be majority which it is ``it’s not about fault. It’s about the delusion and shoving away responsibility to external factors which you have no control over.`` You want to go down this rabbit hole again?You already yourself conceded i have a and i quote:giga hard time compared to attractive men. So unless you want to backtrack... ``And now “there can be bad women”. Good job, much more nuanced and correct`` Yes never said all are bad. Both you an…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:46 PM
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Not really my fault if I take statements like they are written. Nowhere does it say all ``Why are you trying to downplay you blaming your country? According to you it’s a big part of why you are a virgin.`` Huh?The country still isnt at fault nor are the men who are tall there? ``men don’t open up due to women not giving a crap about mens feelings`` Yes thats a reality for a lot of men who dont open up. There can be bad women ``women are shallow`` So are men as i have said ``women have high stan…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:39 PM
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Yes I got banned. Not for insulting you though. Got it for reality checking some users in the so called safe space that is Ropeordope already sent me the proof ``Easy way to just put the responsibility on the reader for “jumping to conclusions” when you intentionally make blanket statements. And no, not using ad hominems isn’t baby sitting. Agreeing with people who blame genetics/their country/women is though`` Its still your fault if you intrepret it that way especially since you know i dont th…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:30 PM
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``mao didn’t get banned for insulting you. Not gonna spend time searching it: you said it yourself that it happened often between our discussions.`` You did get banned for 10 days then tried to avoid the ban lmao Nope i never get called out and then try to weasel out. I have had people accuse me of that if i dare say looks is more important yes ``And no I don’t think it’s important to cater to feelings of strangers like a babysitter. Especially when they are arguing from a hostile position.`` 1)…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:18 PM
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Huh? When do i get called out for anything?Link it since its so coincidentally often? I have female friends who care for me,a sister and a mother. I know you know that so i dont know why you would be acting dumb ``So you don’t think it’s important to be more precise in your wording when you would otherwise make ridiculous generalizing statements about a whole gende`` You dont think its important on your side not to insult me?Yet you got banned twice off this site for that. I know which is worse
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:09 PM
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Nope. Ive said multiple times anytime we disccuss i add most/average The person i was replying to also didnt add any things like most/majority which is partially why i responded that way. Its not clear what i meant and you dont get to headcanon about it
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:54 PM
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Never once did i state all now did i? ``It is`` Giving a sarcastic response to something that you know the answer to isnt moving the goalpost
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:24 PM
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1)Thats not moving the goalpost 2)You asked for a definition of the term that you already know of
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:15 PM
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a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:51 PM
1

On average yeah
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:14 PM
8

Women can look much better than us in 30s. They are just coping
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:01 PM
1

You dont need to believe all dont to not open up.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:00 PM
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Some did yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:00 PM
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Which is true for a lot of men who dont. They dont do it for no reason
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:52 PM
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I did plenty on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:51 PM
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Women would tell you that you are insecure and shallow person if you think looks league exist :0
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:22 PM
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Its also a generilization to say men dont talk about them all. But a lot of who dont do it because of that yes
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:21 PM
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But you dont believe men cant be attracted to the girl from the first picture and attracted to the second?Or vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:20 PM
-1

Oh scaryyyy
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:10 PM
-8

If you arent baiting ,this just isnt the case. Most ignore you
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:05 PM
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Yeah well you see women on reddit have told me in the past(and on tiktok) that if you do you are implying they are a hivemind. As they would say i find a guy to be a 10 but my friend thinks he is a 2. So yeah i dont see anyone calling them deluded for that either irl on the interent
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:22 PM
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Men dont talk about their feelings because women dont give a crap lmao
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:53 PM
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You are the last person who should say that someone is making stuff up
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:26 PM
1

Didnt and never helped with dating :)
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:19 PM
1

Yeah men remarry more(30`s are the primetime for idvorces) and then after 40 there are less men in western countries
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:19 PM
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Okay so if a woman says she doesnt find Henry cavill attractive would you call her a chad chaser and deluded about mens beauty standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:18 PM
1

Huh?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 11:42 PM
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Yeah and you dont think i did basics like that?My point exactly Does your puny brain also assume everyone who dissagrees with you is a mysigonist?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 10:37 PM
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When did i say i didnt go through it or that i was never awkward in my life?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:46 PM
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I didnt say the list ended there?Im just saying your brain cant proccess someone putting in effort but being ugly lmao
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:46 PM
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1)I dont hate anyone so yeah you can fuck right off with that 2)Again you are assuming i dont have basics such as a sport i play or a team i follow. Its really impossible for your brain to think of someone who can have a good personality but ugly ``But I think you would want better odds than 1/4bil,`` How do you know its 1/4b if its subjective?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 08:00 PM
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Huh...?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:48 PM
1

I dont have awkward phases. I do not struggle socially
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:39 PM
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Im not doing a plastic surgery and yes i am using skin cream. Ive already talked about why you shouldnt assume stuff
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:34 PM
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Thats not just it. If your entire face has conventional features its actually above average. Same with if its symmetrical
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:29 PM
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What you quoted doesnt say it just needs to not be deformed and clear.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:21 PM
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So you agree that people with bad personaltiies(like you) can have people who find it charming?So how do you even tell someone to improve their personality if its based on taste?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:06 PM
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Whatever, I want that report by February! I’m still rooting for you as well as we’ll be sending you articles and motivational tapes on Jan 1. Ive given up this year. I approached once and it wasnt planned ``Seriously, these things can help with your face. According to the study being a good looking person is having a non-deformed, even face with clear skin. That’s about it, unless you had some sort of incident you can at have one of these. Then the derm and work outs help with the clear skin and…
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:03 PM
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Yet to demonstrate the amaizing personality youve been bragging about
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:47 PM
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``Anywho anyone who thinks they’re ugly probably didn’t work on the right things. Like self esteem…and finding good dermatologist and facial work outs ect. 1 `` Thats why you dont spew shit drunk cause you are wrong on all accounts
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:47 PM
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Lay report? Why do you assume anyone who is ugly just hasnt worked on themselves?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:25 PM
1

Yeah unfortunately thats not a reality for ugly men
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:57 PM
1

Approaching all the women is worse
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:13 PM
2

The older number only applies to very old women when men die out/remarry
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:12 PM
1

Apology number 305934053055. What a great personality
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:09 PM
1

F
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:05 PM
3

``Short can be solved with shoelifts (assuming you don't wanna go the surgical route)`` This doesnt help
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:05 PM
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Yeah except as i said the treatment is vastly different. Its dependent on you playing jester and putting a lot more effort in just to end up like the average husband whose biggest wish is for his wife to compliment him more
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:02 PM
1

How is it beautifully said if beauty is subjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:09 PM
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Yes you dont need to be to get into a relationship. But there is a massive difference in the treatment he gets
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:51 PM
2

Well 6 is only really relevant once you are in a relationship Humor and charm is influenced by halo horn effect So realistically 5 and social skills are the only things you can max out
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:51 PM
1

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:49 PM
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Fallacious argument
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:34 PM
2

You replied to me why wouldnt i think its refering to me when you didnt specify anything? Edit:When do i make everything about myself?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:00 PM
2

When was i bitter to anyone over making a joke?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:52 PM
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Because for some reason people think ugly men can date those kind of women but just have high standards(projection)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:35 PM
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Beauty is subjective so i dont see whats wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:34 PM
1

1)Isnt beauty subjective? 2)Both women dont want me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:33 PM
1

This
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:15 PM
1

Ah yes totally
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:04 PM
1

Result based analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:03 PM
5

My sister is dating a minority guy bangledashi but they were friends for years before she decided to give him a chance Feel bad for him
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:53 PM
2

Any bluep on this sub when they make a joke its so cringe i cant
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:49 PM
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Most people who are considered funny dont spawn a joke out of thin air but play it off something
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:49 PM
1

Proof?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:43 PM
1

Should i send you links of me and some other people saying we are ugly?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:43 PM
1

Think he would be more against his wife being here
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:48 PM
5

Women insult men who are ugly too. What is your point?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:24 PM
2

We dont what
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:24 PM
3

``Men here all claim to be average looking`` What?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:24 PM
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Isnt beauty subjective?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:18 PM
1

That example wouldnt even work in this convo because it would imply he thinks balding and being 5`1 is a handicap inherently
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:38 PM
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``Looks height and length aren't what matters. Personality matters most for a successful healthy relationship`` Prove that
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:45 PM
1

Virgin has nothing to do with it
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:44 PM
1

havent been called any of that because unlike women here i can respectfully debate/discuss
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:44 PM
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Im from Eastern europe as well. Hell on earth for sub 5 men
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:40 PM
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Dissagreeing is fine. What you and most do isnt
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:40 PM
0

She is above average and above his league
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 07:41 PM
2

I do. Can bench 100kg
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:39 PM
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Im sure she did
/r/BlackPillScience27/10/23 11:38 PM
1

Yeah i know its tough for bluepillers to substantiate any claim they make. What an awesome personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:35 PM
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1)You dont have a good personality 2)This doesnt dissprove what i said earlier
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:23 PM
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They arent otherwise what i just said wouldnt be given as a heads up
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:11 PM
1

Women swipe on far less men and messaging them doesnt mean they are attracted
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:03 PM
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I changed it plenty. My point is you cant say oh but even if you do imrpove it you can easily die as a virgin if people with trashy personality and good looks are getting laid 24/7 and then claim personality is 2 LEAGUES ABOVE XD
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 10:27 PM
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Im not saying that. But that inherently doesnt make it better. I am talking about people who say:oh go outget a great personality! Oh but its not very likely so dont feel bad if you die a virgin at least you self improved Like you cant say this and claim personality is even in the same league as looks
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:32 PM
1

Yes but you can find a guy much easier if you have a good personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:30 PM
2

Em not the same thing?How does go karting have anything to do with the great personaltiy?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:28 PM
1

If they want to have sex with you it just means your personality isnt good enough for relationships
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:27 PM
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Its not just you who says it. Plenty of bluepillers here claim oh but its not very likely so dont be said if you dont find a gf even if you have a great personality at least you worked on yourself!! Like huh then personality means very little
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:29 PM
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``your death bed still a virgin, you'll be able to look everyone in the eye and say you gave it your best shot`` If personality mattered so much this wouldnt even be a possbility
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:56 AM
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``“you see, your insular point of view CAN’T be true because if it were true, it would be popular since truth is popular`` Thats just appeal to popularity. They lose the argument when they say this
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:52 AM
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Since men are sexually attracted to almost every woman the only reason you would be struggiling to find one is because you have a shitty personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:50 AM
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Okay?With this in mind maybe women should apply the personality advice to themselves
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:04 AM
2

Hitchens razor :)
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:03 AM
2

I know. I meant his first paragraph is how bluepillers sound to me
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:03 AM
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It isnt. Cite one and prove why its unrealistic
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:43 AM
2

Not evidence.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:09 AM
3

Isnt beauty subjective. Why are yall getting surprised?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:04 AM
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Men dont claim they dont care about looks and only about personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:03 AM
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Thats how yall sound when you speak. I hang around women and its precisely why i know personality<<<<<<<<looks
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:57 PM
2

Proof?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:57 PM
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No. Buit bluepillers constantly rag on about their maginificent personality but are usually just as bad if not worse when it comes to arguing like a proper adult
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 07:38 PM
1

Thats not what i was claiming nor did i ever do that
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 07:37 PM
1

Well one side is acting morally just.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 03:50 PM
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Not nearly to the same extent. I can argue with bp much better than blue pillers. Less ad hominems and they actually read what i type
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:23 PM
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I mean you didnt dissprove anything...?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:38 PM
5

Im not gonna play lotto
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:34 PM
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If its like lotto for me do you agree that personality is not even close to looks in relevancy?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 09:32 PM
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Most dudes here havent had dates. I am one of the few who did and they all went terribly.-
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:29 PM
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Yep. After approaching more than 100 that gave me the slightest of signals because my friends and people on reddit told me to do so i actually looked objectively at how many are interested like they are in my chad friends. Turns out-0. None put in 10% the effort that they did with them So why should i approach?Just to get rejected?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:23 PM
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Yeah im saying the thing men complain about isnt just fictional. Its halo horn effect which is a daily occurence
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:51 PM
2

You as in those women on relationshipadvice. Its a simple thing to do
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:18 PM
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Doesnt apply to just fiction. That behavior is consistent irl
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:09 PM
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Then just dont...date that kind of a guy?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:09 PM
2

The one people most complained was Wolverine cause he was miss casted.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:07 PM
1

You dont need to be a 10/10 but she has to find you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:03 PM
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Yessir. I have 6 that fit the criteria and they are all from like the age of 6/7. So you can imagine how much i got to see it since we hit puberty
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 12:59 PM
2

Same goes for their advice. You need to be a goody two shoes who NEVER thinks of getting into a relationship when you volunteer, meet up at hobby groups,bars,clubs etc while every fkcing man that exists rthat wants to date...does think of that
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 12:58 PM
5

Yes
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:34 PM
3

Yes
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:22 PM
2

Find better stuff to do with your life
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:31 PM
2

Is that true?
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:03 AM
2

I wouldnt be in a relationship then. Relationship means to commit
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:01 AM
1

Ive heard this a gazilion of times
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 09:47 AM
1

So its okay to offend as long as its not a woman? And yes there are
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 09:46 AM
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There was still no reason to call anyone who doesnt want to date you an idiot LMAO And you are hostile for no reason all the time
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 12:49 AM
1

In a non arrogant way?
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 09:51 PM
1

Thats just how it is when you are short and ugly
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:25 PM
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Yeah and im saying the numbers argument doesnt work when i wont even meet 0.5% of 3.5 bilion anyway
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:21 PM
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And ill meet how many?Even my most social friends havent even met 1000 that they were on a somewhat close level
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:17 PM
1

They do from my experience
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:14 PM
1

Ye
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:09 PM
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There is a day in life of an inkwell and they picked an extremely handsome guy who plays video games for that documentary Its a joke
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:04 PM
1

No i already answered which ones dont
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:46 PM
1

You are such a joke
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:46 PM
4

Looks always have and always will neg personality no diff.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:39 PM
1

If she is neatural maybe not if she finds him ugly
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:32 PM
1

Yes. Increase. Not magically appear when it wasnt there
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:28 PM
1

Given that both women and men need sexual attraction it is
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:30 PM
1

Yes women can love my personality. They dont want to date me however
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:25 PM
1

As i said there are other women who have that kind of fetish?But besides that pretty much none
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:21 PM
1

Thats not who i was refering to. Just everyday women And it is limited unless we talk about girls who have fetishes for ugly short guys which isnt common whatsoever
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 01:15 PM
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There are plenty of great women who i wanted to be with that didnt want me As i said looks are just proven to be that much more important than personality and im not going to waste my life searching for a demisexual
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 01:08 PM
1

Which romantically seems to be 0 But apperantly personality>looks lmfao
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 12:33 PM
1

Not really a pity. Life is much better when you arent a jester
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 12:18 PM
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Past and present yes. Also just being realistic about looks being much more important than personality I do know how to apply it :)
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:43 AM
1

1)Its not just statistics but also personal life experience 2)Its the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:35 AM
1

You should look into deductive reasoning
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:08 AM
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They are low and the woman you are going to end up with is going to be far from ideal(in your 30`s, meaning its a high chance of it being settiling down and romance/sex just sucks in that period)
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 10:52 AM
1

Not really
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 10:23 AM
1

You can
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 10:45 PM
1

Thats why i said its not 100%
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 06:05 PM
5

Bro is a fraud
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:03 PM
1

You can never be 100% accurate but if you put some thought you can guess fairly accurately
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 04:54 PM
1

You dont need to be one
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 10:35 AM
1

As i said nothing is 100% certain but there are clear probabilities
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:46 AM
1

If its subjective then you cant say nah
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 10:42 PM
6

None of them want me lmao
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 10:42 PM
1

Define young age
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:15 PM
1

A relationship can be important to you but you can still choose to give up. They arent mutually exclusive
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:02 PM
1

They absoloutely are.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:54 PM
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He also insults you on the way without reading what you write but he has a great personality because he apologizes later ig
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:24 PM
1

Liar?I didnt lie once here
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:21 PM
1

Past rejections,lack of interest,most people telling you you are ugly/not attractive and being below average height
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:21 PM
1

You cant know anything for sure but there are clear probabilities
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:00 PM
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Because i believe looks>personality for dating(Which is true) And love how you ignored the rest. Another fucking time you insult me without properly reading. What a wonderful personality
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:56 PM
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``No I read it`` You clearly havent. I never once stated in that comment that you cant have fun conversations if you are ugly Now rob with your 50 years of experience read my comment again ``? Decide if you're ugly to someone else. You just don't get to. They decide if you're hot. So I ignored the part of your sentence where you didn't have the right to speculate.`` Dont have to speculate when my life tells me that ``You could tell me you actually have relaxed, and easy conversations with women …
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:47 PM
1

Re-read my comment again. Slowly
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:29 PM
1

If someone tells me smt like 4th i would think im being pranked tbh
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:23 PM
1

You dont just have good vibes and ask out and actually expect results if you are ugly
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:23 PM
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Agreed. Being trad or liberal doesnt mean much. They can both be bad people I dont want a trad woman anyway
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:18 PM
1

It is for some yes
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:16 PM
1

Not really
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:40 AM
1

It would be more of a pity to constantly smack your head against the wall
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:08 AM
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`` " women never approach women cause it make them look needy `` Biggest bs ive heard. They approach tall attractive men. They dont approach other cause they arent attracted ``" women just need time to like men and it's all about personality " `` Then they wouldnt be opposed to friends to lovers and advice wouldnt be make a move in a picosecond that you meet her bro! ``women love is harder `` For top tier men
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 08:47 PM
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If you want to give up after many years of action
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 08:41 PM
1

Yes and its completely valid to blame external factors
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 11:24 AM
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You are assuming shadowcat or any man who has those traits hadnt tried
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 11:18 AM
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Plenty of men who fit the bill are active with those traits but it meant jack shit. You are being fallacious
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 11:13 AM
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Autisim and looks is absoloutely valid to blame lmfao
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 11:00 AM
6

Debunked by who?
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:52 AM
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You dont need to.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:14 AM
3

People with mental health issues do as well.your point?
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:14 AM
2

It helped me confirm that looks>personality
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 08:59 AM
2

I live in eastern europe and trust me its impressive that he did get laid(albeit he probably isnt ugly)
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:24 PM
1

Yep. Been told by couple that they would date me if i was more attractive or taller. Now i havent crushed on most of my friends but it still hurts to hear.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:22 PM
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``I was kind of messing with you. The idea being fuck the specific results and start putting yourself out there and new ways to gain different reference experiences…`` Yes i do go out ``Homie…last time you got your duck sucked….you where thinking about your face and how it looks….not to the weirdest thing I’ve heard try to enjoy the blow job.`` Im confused by this sentence? ``My fault, I’ve been yelling go out and touch grass so long I forgot the next step…. Approach women and get laid!`` I did …
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:37 PM
1

Ik but i doubt your dicksize would growx2 after college
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:33 PM
6

Too ugly and short for that
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:20 AM
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Just because someone dissmisses what you say doesnt make them a loser. People can dissagree without them being losers
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:19 AM
1

Thats not a debunk you think it is
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:19 AM
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Nope. My only standard is for her to love me and put in effort. She doesnt have to be neither perfect nor ``obedient``
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:17 AM
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Anyone who says anything opposing to your bubble is lying
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:11 AM
4

That sounds like a mental issue
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:08 AM
1

Huh?Even i have been complimented on clothes tf are you on
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:07 AM
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Bro low diffd him
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 07:46 PM
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This is one of the best.Every one of them who says they dont ever give gifts for their bf,sometimes pay on dates,dont post them on ig and dont put in effort because its a mans job is just an indication that they arent attracted to him
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 03:25 PM
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Middle/high school information probs. A lot of boys back then would brag about it
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:46 AM
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Yes. Just not very likely(esp if you add shortness)
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:45 AM
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Welp thats why they will get banned sooner or later
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:42 PM
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Most say its the most important and some say its the only thing that matters
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:37 PM
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I would rather be single than in a DB
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:34 PM
3

Again bp doesnt say its the only thing that matters either
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:28 PM
2

The numbers dont actually skew back up until older age
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 08:11 PM
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Autisim is a giga massive handicap.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:14 AM
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Hasty generelisation fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:14 AM
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The men die earlier thing is irrelevant since the numbers only skew back in old age And SOME men date way younger
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:07 AM
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I mean when we give studies apperntly they are also wrong because muh myisogony or biased studies!
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 10:52 PM
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Yikes lets unpack this This so much this!
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 10:51 PM
4

Can you prove it isnt?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:58 PM
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Sorry boo but bottom 80% of men are get far less attraction than 80% of women
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:44 PM
1

Yep. Looks are so much more important its not even funny
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:27 PM
2

Cool?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 PM
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Reminder you need to put in massive effort for 20 years just to get a woman thats not really all that interested in you but your hot friends are getting laid and in relationships ever since their teens without even having to do much But im supposed to believe personality is more relevant or even comes close to relevance to looks jfc
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 PM
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sk any woman and they all say they found a guy attractive AFTER they got to know him. Attraction isn’t a lighting strike for many Doesnt always happen nor is it ever a case when the guy is tall and attractive
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:03 PM
0

That happens to me when im sad
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 09:33 PM
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``“ I have given up this year. This was an exception” You sure?`` Yes i have given up on pursuing. That doesnt mean i dont or didnt have fun lol ``Ummm “Time to drink myself to death this weekend boys!” Dis U? Remember that cheesy, advice about having fun. I WAS COMPLETELY PISSED WHEN I HAD THAT “epiphany”. When it sinks in, *like REALLY SINKS IN you will be too. 🙃`` So anyone who has fun has never felt bad in their life(And no i didnt drink myself to death it was a figure of speech) ``Sounds le…
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 09:00 PM
1

You arent feeling happy right now but that doesnt mean you dont want to be happy lol
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:29 PM
1

Try not to focus on it and invest that anger into something productive. Ie when i feel furious thats when i do the best work out for example
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:02 PM
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Speaking from experience-you grow numb from it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:30 PM
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It unfortunately did happen quite a bit in the past generation.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:29 PM
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Im refering to a guy who has no attention untill older age where people settle for a lot less and the woman isnt attracted to him but likes him as a person
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:20 PM
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I want someone to be actually physically attracted to me and put in the same amount of effort
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:12 PM
1

I am against it but i dont consider you awful
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:42 PM
1

What does this comment have to do with the thread?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:18 PM
1

Confidence,humor,personality,respectfulness,social skills
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:16 PM
2

About what?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:05 PM
1

Yep. Never in my life have i seen an ugly short guy getting hit on or the girls putting effort in.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:05 PM
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``Maybe be a bit familiar to you. At least that how I felt for a good stretch of my career. Honestly, what helped me develop my break through was…we’ll cheesy advice from a cheese guy.`` Not really since i dont consider myself better than the average guy outside of personality. ``Have fun…when you go out. Let go of any results and have fun`` I always do that. ``When you go you, don’t try to pick up any women but to have genuine and fun interaction with anybody you meet. You have to game anybody …
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:02 PM
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I dont have social anxiety. I have approached plenty and been rejected by every single one except when they didnt know my face prior. So now ive given up. If a woman doesnt approach me oh well
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 08:22 PM
3

Even if most dont, there are still plenty who do want
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 08:06 PM
1

Love both but cats on top
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 08:02 PM
1

Okay but why the f is she mentioning that then?She always victimizes herself
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:58 PM
1

I wasnt blaming anyone for that what
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:45 PM
2

Gus says what's basically true. When you act according to your own values, you're an adult. Which for Gus means behaving kindly, empathetically, and ethically. And you admit when you're wrong. It might be the best answer to this question ever put in film is what I'm saying. Yet a bunch of people who dont act like that get into relationships
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:43 PM
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Yes if she is studying And there is a difference between being broke,not having a job and rich
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:03 PM
2

Yep. God forbid i find a person im interested in that puts half the effort i do
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:02 PM
2

False assumptions and yes women approach attractive men
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:00 PM
5

We cant get relationships either so yeah
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:59 PM
1

I really dont understand how you can type this kind of comments unprovoked and not think you are a giant asshole
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:58 PM
5

On dating apps?Yes it is
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:57 PM
6

Yes. Got rejected by plenty of them
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:54 PM
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I have empathy but not for them who dont approach,dont go out and never work on themselves(AND STILL have more options while claiming lonely men are the ones at fault jfl)
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:54 PM
1

When i ask her if she would date a guy if he is funny(regardless of how ugly he is) she gives an example of a guy she doesnt even claim is ugly lol
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:52 PM
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I didnt said its guranteed. Im just saying they are more important
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:37 PM
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The example she gave was a guy of who wasnt ugly just not super attractive
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:37 PM
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Can doesnt mean likely.
/r/BlackPillScience10/10/23 03:30 PM
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Not good for her when she isnt honest
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:30 PM
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Yeah and you can do all of the personality stuff great and not have anyone interested Better for him to at least know looks are important
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:29 PM
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Hold on he is doing everything right but him being unnattractive means he is getting 0 Explain to me again how personality>looks in importance
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:24 PM
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Yup claims she would date ANY guy regardless of how he looks as long as he is funny then gives an example of a guy that isnt ugly.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:23 PM
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You said he wasnt a looker. That doesnt mean he was ugly
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:18 PM
1

So he wasnt ugly?Got it
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:14 PM
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I asked about looks not height. You didnt mention him being ugly.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:07 PM
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I asked regardless of how he looks. Why did you mention height?
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:03 PM
1

To me it is
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:56 PM
1

Which was my only point
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:53 PM
1

Again not answering the question. Would you date any funny guy regardless of hohw he looks?
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:49 PM
1

Yeah and she is dodging that rn and not answering it that way
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:47 PM
1

Yes. I fucking specified multiple times that its when you are short and ugly. ON ITS OWN its not irrelevant but if you dont pass looks threshold then it is.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:40 PM
1

Sure if you want to play semenatics. if you are short and ugly its irrelevant yes.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:37 PM
1

``So I'm cognisant of my capacity to be wrong and have long accepted that I'll be wrong again - which is good because then I can stop being wrong and start being more right. I don't fear being wrong like every single person who posts here.`` Damn you have been doing that for so long yet manage to confidently be wrong and an asshole on the way?Crazy `` I'd accuse you of having a fetish for being humiliated in public but that would require a basic level of introspection that I suspect won't be occ…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:36 PM
1

Yes. When you are ugly and short. Thats when it becomes pretty irrelevant
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:35 PM
1

Yes. Point me one comment which said personality has 0% influence.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:32 PM
1

None ever said that
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:24 PM
1

Yeah ig calling out your giga retarded takes is defending pathetic stuff. Dw its never you who is wrong
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:18 PM
1

Again you claiming you dont do that doesnt prove your statement right.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:19 PM
1

Half of these arent excuses just dumb sayings
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:17 PM
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Im saying any funny guy regardless of anything else.Not whether or not your current guy is ufnny
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:15 PM
1

i just reply when i see your comments in the thread
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:14 PM
1

Yes. I was a cute kid
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:50 PM
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More GPT nearly dying saying your hypothetical is so fucking insipid and stupid lol: GPT is the one who is making a dumb argument because he never once said its the sole factor. Just as how your brain didnt see that `And here is poor GPT patiently explaining to a particularly stupid child that emotionally intelligent people exist for whom the halo effect does not play a part in their assessments of people: Just because you are emotionally inteligent doesnt mean halo effect doesnt affect you.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:43 PM
5

What a pathetic life
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:22 PM
2

This
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:20 PM
0

So are you dating any funny guy?
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:19 PM
0

Criclejerk more
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:18 PM
1

People have told me that. Not me
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:17 PM
1

damn
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:26 PM
1

Around my level of looks,basic hyigene,long hair, on the fatter side, horny for me,shares similar hobbies and or interests,isnt abusive.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:05 PM
1

Confidence
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:03 PM
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I want a girl thats horny for me. Thats probably an insane standard given my success rate so far lmao
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:02 PM
1

Thats not what you said nor did i say you cant do anything about it or that im a victim of it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 11:29 PM
1

Damn thats crazy. I think a bigger problem for you is that you listen to people on purpose despite dissagreeing with them and blaming your lives shortcomings on that
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 11:04 PM
1

```Maybe you get rejected because your obstinate, unpleasant, negative and confrontational. Get iff if Reddit for awhile and practice being a human being.`` Not sure how me claiming that there can be shitty adults equals to me being negative and unpleasant. If anything someone invalidating that from happening is far more. And you complaining about me being confrontational is so funny. So none should dare dissagree with goddess fammiliesarenations? https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-deal-with-ad…
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 10:45 PM
1

Its short for demisexuals
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 10:42 PM
1

``Dude come on, she talked to you first, she still talked to you after her friend left. She was totally into you, she just let her friend have her shot because she the shy type.`` I would say her friend was more shy and the only thing we talked about after was her saying she wanted ME girl and me to hook up ``Side note: THE YEAR IS ALMOST OVER GET ANOTHER APPROACH IN! LIKE NO THOUGHT JUST GO`` I have given up this year. This was an exception ``Dude, you go out, in school and hit the gym. You’re …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 07:21 PM
12

They cant resist asking me out when they see me drinking water with confidence
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 02:58 PM
1

I dont see why autistic men wouldnt but non autistic would https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.685256/full Here is this as well
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 01:20 PM
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1)Because it wouldnt be fair to use 30 year olds and younger for that as people now have children later 2)Autistic men specifically had an absurdly low fertility rate
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 10:18 AM
1

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1390257
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:30 AM
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The point is that 1)This is extremely uncommon 2)Autistic men can do the same things you did and never have even 1 person interested. Would we still blame them for not making small steps and being `` confdient``
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:27 AM
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I know the point is clearly its not just about making small steps and being confident based on your story. More men are autistic and far less get married % wise than women.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:18 AM
2

Why wouldnt the personality and confidence arguments apply to him?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:06 AM
3

Do you know how little autistic men get married?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:05 AM
3

I have women who are great to me. But not one has been attracted
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:04 AM
1

Something something hasty generlization fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:04 AM
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This is where it began to faulter a bit. Nothing wrong with going after the ME girl. However, her friend was showing massive interest and was trying to get your attention. In these cases you have to be aware who’s giving the most interest and go with them. Assuming attraction is mutual and you want a clean and easy set. As you can see i typed later she wasnt interested in me but hooking us up ``Too late, ALL WAYS GO FOR THE PHONE NUMBER. I understand social media closes and ext however. Randos, …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:01 AM
1

Demis are <1%
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 08:56 AM
1

``Proof? They don't do it. Prove they do.`` You are the one making a claim they dont. Hitchens razor ``It's normal to get rejected more than a dozen times in your life. Giving up is stupid. Or shows you don't really want it. If you really wanted it, you'd get it.`` Sorry no man that i know(that has been in a relationship) has been rejected even half the amount of times i have or gotten 0 attention
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 08:55 AM
1

Huh?I dont blame anyone.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 08:53 AM
1

Hopefully not
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 11:47 PM
1

I dont hate anyone. I just think looks>personality
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 11:46 PM
1

Based on what post?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 07:21 PM
1

Check my latest post
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 07:21 PM
1

Like i already said i wont. I was just tempted cause she was ugly+played my favorite game
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 05:58 PM
1

Its more worth than blaming your personality despite having a good one
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 02:48 PM
1

On what?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 02:48 PM
1

Going to therapy for certain things isnt bad but yes you shouldnt take anti depressants
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 11:05 AM
1

I would glady date a short ugly girl. I just got rejected by one 2 days ago
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:32 AM
1

Nope
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:32 AM
1

Yes i do. Again no woman is getting wet over a short ugly guy applying game
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:00 AM
4

Its right. None is dating you if you dont pass the looks treshold.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:56 AM
1

``25 year olds don't bully people. Let's get real`` Proof? ``That's normal. Most people these days pair up in their 30's and it's normal to not really know what you want yet in 20's.`` Yeah except when you get rejected a dozen times without any woman showing interest you realize how important looks are
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:55 AM
1

Getting rejected for looks,being judged for looks behind my back and sometimes being bullied for it but less common than in hs
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:44 AM
1

No. But you are implying if a man is attractive he will get more lust from his SO?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:36 AM
3

It means that looks>personality.Not that everything is hopeless
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:25 AM
3

I get the same treatment even amnogst 25 year old+
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:25 AM
5

Yes blaming genes is valid
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:25 AM
1

I do go outside. Again as i said irrelevant.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:23 AM
1

BUT WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? If a woman enters a relationship with a man why would she if she is not going to lust over him and just be meh?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:22 AM
2

Who says we dont? Also i thought beauty was subjective and that leagues dont exist?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:21 AM
1

Huh?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:21 AM
1

Better than most men in relationships yes
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:33 PM
1

Thats not what that means at all
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:28 PM
5

As long as he is confident I know a guy who looks exactly like him and is in fact 4`` 11 in Scandinavia and me and other women just cant keep our hands off him!
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:21 PM
1

"Federal family-planning surveys show condoms went from the top contraceptive tool for 75 percent of men in 2011 to 42 percent of men in 2021. Church and Dwight, the maker of Trojan condoms, flagged the trend in declining condom use to investors in its 2021 annual report."
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:16 PM
1

Yes. I shower and can bench 100kg and touch grass
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:15 PM
2

Yeah the problem is thats not what you originally said
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:15 PM
1

Not if u use the condom and that wasnt what you said by linking that study
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:40 PM
2

Ill answer you after you answer me.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:40 PM
1

Women arent forced to use BC
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:00 PM
2

No dont be sarcastic. You said its the same thing So do you concede that men wanting their partners to be sexual attracted to them is unreasonable standard?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:58 PM
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I mean why would her sexual attraction be lesser?Because im less attractive?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:21 PM
1

They can still not use BC even if men dont want to use the condom?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:20 PM
4

Bro is mad
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:59 PM
1

How do you walk then?On your arms?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:52 PM
1

I would adore my gf too. But i expect the same adoration back
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:49 PM
1

I mean thats what her friend said and girls like that dont get hit on a lot in my country(at least not by attractive men)
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:48 PM
1

Nothing. I havent approached at all this year but i was tempted to since i dont know any girl besides my sister who plays mass effect irl
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:47 PM
1

All of the others do. Its the same crap. You can be as great,funny,confident as possible and share the same interest and not have any interested. Or you can be the opposite but you have a chance if you are attractive
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:47 PM
1

Using your legs so you can walk up to girls is also a general tip no?But its not said
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:46 PM
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I dont care if ROBYoutube thinks its a lie. Heck half the shit you spew is not just only a blatant lie but a contradiction a lot of the times
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:19 AM
1

Nope. Most is from my own life experience
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:40 AM
1

1)Thats not short 2)Yes i would date them
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:40 AM
2

I would date most women. You have a warped perception
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:38 AM
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1)Because this has happened numerous times. Ive had plenty of great interactions,flirting and even female friends who told me they would date me if i was more attractive and or taller 2)I dont think her bestie would try to do that since she did mention lack of options for her and the fact that she didnt reply with im not looking to date On that note it has happened to me over 20 times where a girl says that then i see her dating 10 days later
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:34 AM
2

1)I never said any good talk should lead to a date 2)I dont have any female attention-doesnt mean i dont have a type
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:15 AM
3

My entire social circle tells me im ugly. But according to redditors here i must be lying
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:05 AM
2

Just world fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:04 AM
7

How
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:02 AM
7

None is saying they should. But this dumb take that if a man is single he only wants the prettiest women is retarded
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:02 AM
2

Thats only if you put the same effort back. I wont put any princess treatment in if im not being respected,loved,commited and lusted after
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:01 AM
9

This goes for both genders. Attractive men get massively better treatment and options
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:00 AM
5

You think having a woman feel sexual desire for you is a high standard?LMAOAOAOAOOA
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:58 AM
3

Thats different from what anyintroduction is saying
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:57 AM
1

I dont see whats special about her?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:53 AM
1

Men still cant do it if women dont want to like what
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:52 AM
1

It isnt. And even if it wasnt it doesnt stop you from answering it
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:48 AM
1

Its not stupid but i can see why you would dodge it
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 11:41 PM
1

Answer me
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 10:14 PM
1

Why not give a general tip like you have to move your legs?
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:14 PM
2

Because we totally dont shower rigghttt
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:16 PM
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1)Then just say it like that 2)Yes there isnt a partner for every man unfortunately 3)Confidence is so goddamn irrelevant its not even funny
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:14 PM
3

“Just take a shower” is for people who genuinely stink, but can be broadened to “fix your grooming” The fact that we are told this implies normies think if you arent getting dates it must be one of the reasons
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:13 PM
1

Over for us was not refering to you
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:55 AM
2

Puts effort in
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:55 AM
6

Men who are conventionally attractive also have by far the most options and better sex lives
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:55 AM
1

Yes this applies to vast majority of people however men that women find handsome on first sight are unfortunately never going to be us
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:54 AM
0

Same thing
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:53 AM
2

Contrary to popular belief a lot of men who cant get laid shower regularly and work out
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:52 AM
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Loves me Horny for me
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:51 AM
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Thats cool. It doesnt make those men in question ugly
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:18 PM
2

So again not an ugly guy.Okay
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
2

You are the one who cant even make proper arguments lmao
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
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``hat does imply that HE is not conventionally attractive, thus could be argued that most likely the guy is below average.`` No it doesn what
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:08 PM
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So he wasnt ugly?Gotcha
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:07 PM
1

Not really. 5`7 is perfectly fine if you are model tier
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 09:13 AM
1

Im sure you do
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:53 PM
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No proof and ad hominems?Thought as much.
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:46 PM
5

Googled it.What about it?
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:42 PM
5

Prove that
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:42 PM
3

HUUUH?XD Source?
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:41 PM
1

Sure but im saying women acting like this is a gender issue is nonsense
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 09:28 PM
1

If anything men are the ones who do most of it. A woman crying and complaining 24/7 is perfectly fine and its expected of the man to take care of her
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 09:01 PM
1

None said you need to a be a 10/10
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:16 AM
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Yes. If she is attractive to me it doesnt matter if she is on the ugly side or a 9/10 Hell im putting a lot more effort into average women than 9/10s.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:12 AM
1

Do you have the study?
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:08 AM
2

Yeah those same women complain about how none wants them xD
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 10:55 PM
3

I mean yeah suddenly all girls turned into nerds and gamers when Henry was building the pc
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 10:52 PM
3

Fr if i had a gf i would never give any sexual attention to other girls. I would be hers and hers only
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 08:43 PM
3

I talk to plenty of women. They either dont care or just want to be friends
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:50 PM
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`` The ladies here even tell you many times to "go out and touch grass"`` Because they have this belief that if you arent pullling girls every light with your divine confidence that just means you arent going out whatsoever. I dont need to explain how dumb this conclusion is ``Girls like to see that a guy has friends. Many consider it a red flag if you don't. They also are impressed when you take them to a bar and you're friends with the bartender and know some people there.`` Never helped once …
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:47 PM
1

In a few hours
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:20 PM
1

They are all a bunch of larps and ill make a post as to why
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 04:11 PM
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The thing is often people who say i know a guy who is 5`3 and xyz ALWAYS follow it up with therefore looks dont matter! Its clear that they are saying it with an agenda and not because they know it
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 09:29 PM
1

What even is the point of this post?
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 04:40 PM
0

Its not projection. Its truth
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 10:12 PM
1

Why are you switching topics? Hypergamy
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 10:02 PM
1

Yeah i hope parents pay for their teens rent
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 02:31 PM
1

Quite possible if you save it up. It doesnt mean he can now go and live alone while in college or smth.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:52 PM
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Again it doesnt say UGLY MEN ONLY WANT STACY XD Even though 5x more go to attractive women there is still more than enough for average women Women did the same thing but on a lesser scale but thats because they rated 80% as unnattractive and thus are self aware that they cant all go for top 20% or less. Most men message first on dating sites outside of bumble anyway. If men only wanted stacey and poor women are just getting rejected by guys 24/7 80% of women would be virgins or isngle
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:45 PM
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1)It didnt say only but that more messages were sent. And that still doesnt mean ugly want only stacy 2)Reason it didnt work in reverse is because women already rated almost all men as unnattractive. Thats why their numbers dont seem as shallow.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:31 PM
1

Now do your best and prove that applies to every ugly guy
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:17 PM
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Shockingly none here had a preference for 5`2 men
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:02 PM
1

Cope from you
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:00 PM
1

Huuuh?If he started doing that since he was a teen its completely normal he wouldnt pay the bills for at least another few years You know what’s one of the biggest turn off in men? Lack of responsibility, claiming their successful working hard all the whole mummy and daddy and paying your bills, washing your socks and putting food in front of you every nigh Bs here is just headcanon that you made
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:58 PM
1

Its terrible either way. Cezanne was just looking for a low blow
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:57 PM
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Dont care didnt ask
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 05:26 PM
1

Most of us arent that age yet
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 01:49 PM
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I do all of that. Doesnt mean jack shit
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 01:44 PM
2

`Ah, so betabux isn't a thing, nor does it originate from bitterness that other guys were first and had sex. Right? Also, it's interesting that I've seen guys describe a betabux as anyone that isn't getting as much sex as he desires.`` ​ We already talked about this. There is a difference between not being her exact same identical perfect ideal man and her being meh about you and settiling down
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 01:43 PM
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Last
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 08:24 PM
2

Yeah i know. I just said they are struggiling.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 08:24 PM
1

It isnt
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 07:57 PM
2

How many young men are single/virgins etc
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 07:00 PM
1

Again problems i talked about are present there ​ `As a vivid example, the researchers describe a male team member who was perceived as the slacker of the team and the main focus of negative gossip. It turns out that he was uniformly rated physically ugly by the other members of the team. In contrast was another member of the team, who worked so hard that there were discussions of him as a possible contender for the U.S. Olympic team. This guy was rated by everyone on the team as physically attr…
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 04:15 PM
2

Based on numerous statistics
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 04:11 PM
2

He didnt take it as a personal attack
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:47 PM
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Men apperantly have insane egos for wanting their partners to actually be attracted and compliment them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:46 PM
1

According to studies its <1%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:29 PM
2

Most are actually struggiling in genz
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:27 PM
1

Yeah and the problem is that how can they determine that if we assume attractive people are great in the first place?-
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:26 PM
2

One study?There are multiple for halo effect
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:25 PM
1

Huuuh?I would feel bad for that person not want to exploit them.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:23 PM
1

There was no action. The only thing they knew was that i cant date anyone
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 11:01 PM
1

Would happily date
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 10:14 PM
1

1)Its a lot more competitive then you are making it out to be 2)I dont want to be a betabuxx
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:54 PM
1

it is when people accuse you of not being I dont care if its convincing anyone. Its burden of proof on internet trolls to prove im not.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:50 PM
1

They arent stacies but yes i do find them attractive and to be above my level
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:29 PM
1

Never got approached once in my life so nah Also mid is average and i would be more than happy with an average person
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:20 PM
1

Never happened
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:20 PM
1

You debunked yourself by him being average looking and tall
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:08 PM
1

Who knows. But he is neither ugly nor short
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:07 PM
1

Because that study is irrelevant to bp?
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:05 PM
1

People say it on the internet because single men are accused of not being so they have to say it.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:04 PM
2

Sure but a lot of men who are single would tell you that they want their first time(or sex in general) to be with a loved one. Its clearly not just muh ego
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:54 PM
1

There are still massive amount of men who like flat chest
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:51 PM
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Easily 5/10. I would much rather have an average or below average gf than a model
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:46 PM
1

Yes
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:11 PM
2

But but social construct!Subjective!!!
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:53 PM
3

Looks neg personality so badly
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:52 PM
1

You will
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:48 PM
1

She could just watch homemade?
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 01:59 PM
1

Also you should consider not putting words into my mouth like all bluepillers do. I never once said you need to be uber hot
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 01:56 PM
1

They dont disprove it. By that logic anyone with a bad personality in a relationships disproves it
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 01:55 PM
1

`People who occasionally touch grass and rarely get woman exist…`` I go out regularly ``Why would you go to another country? As well as if you can’t manage a relationship for more than a week. That’s a game, I.e. relationship game problem.`` Thats what you suggested...? ``You don’t have to cold approach, online, social circles ect are valid. HOWEVER YOU STILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO GER RESULTS….even if it’s sitting there and getting the same results you hate…it’s doing something.`` yes i do tha…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 01:48 PM
1

But im told women just cannot date any man who is insecure and not ultra giga omega confident
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 06:47 PM
1

Not what you said.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 06:05 PM
1

I dont think its impossible for me since there are exception just not likely
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:15 PM
1

Yeah and in the comments below you said you are very attractive facially.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:13 PM
1

Yeah and i know its wrong because i actually go out.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:34 PM
1

``Keep looking. Trust yourself more. Socialise more.`` Did all of that for years. ``Bro wants to get a girl with studies lol.`` What are you talking about? `Yet to see one proving any of your points. Seen many directly debunking them. But irrelevant, this is not a number's game. 1 `` You havent proven anything actually. I can prove to you why attractivness isnt completely subjective and that there are general trends you can follow
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:21 PM
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It isnt. There are multiple studies and anecdotal examples that it isnt. `` There is no shortage of handsome men. There is a shortage of interesting and well adjusted men who take care of themselves. 1 `` I would have found someone by now
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:09 PM
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None gets anyone by just being nice sorry
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:02 PM
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``Like, attractive is subjective,`` Not to the degree you think ``ow i treat people is i feel one of the most important thing in how i'm treated`` I treat them well-doesnt mean they want to fuck `` but some girl friends helped me out. Some work here and there can absolutely make you look good.`` They helped me too im still ugly ``Also, like, girls have very wild and different preferences`` They really dont ``Don't give 2 shits about your chin and like a long and wild hair? Don't care how tall yo…
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:02 PM
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Both are irrelevant if you arent attractive to them
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:57 PM
1

You can still read everything and actually reply
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:48 PM
1

I dont send pics of myself
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:44 PM
1

?
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:41 PM
1

``The funny thing is…I’m really not.`` You are. You are basically assuming anyone who is single just hasnt touched grass. ``Your numbers are quite in your favor.`` They arent and i explained why ``Since Ama-Rica is the center of the world I’ll use those numbers.`` Im not from NA There’s roughly 1 million single woman per state averaged. Of course Florida would have more than Montana but we’re talking even spreads. Assuming you live in a medium size city you’d probably have a tens of thousands of…
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:56 PM
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Was sick and had a lot to do for college
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:46 PM
1

Yeah like i said all of them are great. Im still ugly and dont look like him
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:44 PM
1

I do all of that and i dont
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:19 PM
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Oh my god why are you playing dumb 1 million(and im being generous here) that fit the criteria that i just said are SPREAD OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD. They wouldnt just be in my country or towns outside that i visit for example.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:05 PM
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Terrible
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:03 PM
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Its very well possible. Lets say a million women find me attractive(and lets say all of them are my around age range and whom i would find attractive as well The world is such a vast place that i can easily not meet them.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 11:30 AM
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Its very possible when most people dont find you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:53 AM
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Obviously
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:29 AM
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This wasnt intended to mock but to show the warped perception people have of short men
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:23 PM
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I mean by this logic you dont want to go outside since you might get into an accident.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:19 PM
1

Initiating and getting rejected takes more effort
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:17 PM
2

Same with Nadal
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 05:13 PM
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How they are so nice and women don’t appreciate them? Well it’s just cope. They treat women like shit. Doesnt go for every one. Some are terrible people some are great people. There is no rule no they don’t. I know so many beautiful women, like Instagram model status, that just deal with men who try to use them for sex. handsome men also have some tough shit in their life. Doesnt mean they dont get treated better than ugly men.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 05:12 PM
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None said that
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 12:12 PM
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Thought women hate best friends curshing on them
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 12:05 PM
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I didnt say that. I said that if a requirement was for me to have a HIGH EARNING CAREER since my youth up untill my early 20`s when most people in my country in general dont earn it LET ALONE teenagers and young adults.I dont even know anyone my age or younger besides guys with rich parents unless you want to claim thats my fault And the comment i replied to wasnt about money ``14 man come on. Your early twenties. Enjoy life. Go to school or build your career. Travel!!! Build yourself and just f…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:48 AM
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Did all of that. Hasnt helped
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:30 AM
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Again you cant debunk anything and go for personal attacks. Muh you didnt try!!!!! Baseless assumptions
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:19 AM
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Sure no career is fine but claiming that i am didnt ENTER ANY RELATONSHIPS Ifrom 14-up until now because i wasnt earning a lot of money is either dumb logic or you think i had to go for gold diggers yes
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:19 AM
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1)I dont care what you think,unless you can prove it dont state it as facts `` They just have this dumb idea that you have to look incredible to be attractive to someone, when in fact decent is more than enough, that is if you have a good personality.`` Yeah decent looking is unfortunately not what applies to me `` These ideas are damaging to normal looking guys telling themselves they're not good enough and it's over for them`` We litterally gatekeep guys who arent short and ugly what? ``off no…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:11 AM
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``It’s still hard to know - reasonable standards doesn’t tell much. Not does being in your city because for me personally I moved countries.`` I cant nor do i want to move countiries just to find a woman My standards are-not a serial killer/abusive, horny for me, showers a few times a week and takes care of her hiygene, not bald,disabled and can hold a conversation,any height as long as she isnt 20cm taller than me(which is like very small % of women anyway), shares at least one interest with me…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:09 AM
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You are 6`2 and decent looking mate. Stop playing dumb
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:04 AM
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`Bad location -big one here moving was the best thing for me personally`` Im in a city which has the highest amount in my whole country `` Too high standards No standards (comes across desperate)`` I have reasonable standards `` Not in a high potential career or degree`` Lots and i mean lots of people dont have a high earning career and get together especially in my country which is one the poorest in eu ``Not social enough Not wearing stylish clothes`` I go out regularly and my fashion sense wa…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:59 AM
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Why would it not happen if personality maters so much?This is what bugs me why even mention that when the probability of it not happening is so low to begin with?
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:48 AM
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I mean it does since vast majority of people have found at least 1 partner by my age And yes if personality mattered more i would have found someone by now
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:44 AM
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Lots of people are not permanently single until 30 dude Nor does this debunk my previous point
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:36 AM
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In my early 20`s
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:29 AM
1

Yeah if personality mattered more than looks it would have happened a long time ago
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:28 AM
1

yeah im saying your argument of oh you will get mad if it takes more time is bollocks because i couldnt gaf if it takes more time. It doesnt take time at all because it doesnt happen for me
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:20 AM
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i currently have 6-7 that im close with. This is over the course of my life. And this experience matches up with other guys i know. Ugly short autistic men are not thirsted after by women. Its only a handful.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:19 AM
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I wouldnt get mad ifi t takes time. But women are specifically against friends to lovers. I do not look for FWBS
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:10 AM
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You asked for proof that men initiate more on average
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 10:09 AM
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You are missquoting me. I never said vast majority of men are doomed because of hyper specific tastes. Im talking about the guys you had described and ``gave hope``. If they have to hope that there is one woman out there for them meanwhile good looking guys are banging or getting into relationships almost regularly it proves looks>personality
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:45 AM
1

Above 30
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:36 AM
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A few women through out the whole world whom men with those characteristics wont meet. For fucks sake this proves looks neg personality into oblivion
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:35 AM
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1)A lot of men in relationships do not have a good personality 2)This doesnt make looks any less valuable
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:32 AM
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Which i dont dissagree with But anxious non talkative autistic 3/10 men are are not lusted over by vast vast majority of women
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:29 AM
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It doesnt have to be hook ups This applies for LTR as well you are just ugly if you think they dont feel sexual attraction lmao
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:25 AM
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And I was mostly attracted to him physically There it is
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:24 AM
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They go into great details about guys they find attractive(hint its never a short conventionally ugly guy), which guys they hooked up with at the club and how their relationships are going. Also if a guy is average they either reject him or consider giving him a ``chance``(aka he puts in way more effort and has to prove himself to her majesty) And even when i tell them a certain guy will use them they are like yeah yeah and still get screwed over. Albeit thats only if its a guy from their dreams
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:24 AM
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How did you like him if he barely spoke? Where is the good old confidence and funny requirement that seemingly majority of women have?
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:09 AM
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About this not being a betabuxx situation And um i havent had any partners and women go into great details with me on it soo
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:07 AM
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I dont know to quantify americans lbs so i took his word
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:07 AM
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His first conclusion is not common unfortunately
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:04 AM
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She could also be having mental/physical issues based on this post. Also he say he is little overweight not obese LOL
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:03 AM
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``I borderline wish it was rare. It honestly isn’t. I’ve seen women swoon, genuinely swoon, over some extremely ugly guys (with dogshit personalities to boot).`` These women usually have mental issues. Not really a high % of a population(or ones that people want to date) and they usually get exploited unfortunately. ``The heart wants what it wants, and it’s just not at all uncommon for women to actually be sexually attracted to conventionally unattractive men.`` it is.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:01 AM
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You are the one making a positive claim. Hitchens razor
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:00 AM
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Yeah the right person will actually be attracted to you and wont require you to play jester to win them over with le personality.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:58 AM
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This is one of the biggest double standards
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:58 AM
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Plenty of fish in the sea is so bad because you dont even meet like 0.5% of the population in your life so whats the point of saying 3.5b
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:57 AM
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1)None will treat you better based on their relationship status alone. You just have a higher chance of ending up with someone at your own level 2)They do.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:56 AM
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I mean you are trolling but here https://www.hindustantimes.com/sex-and-relationships/why-don-t-women-make-the-first-move-here-s-what-experts-have-to-say/story-HZqJBc6IXTMdLRdxrPMYCK.html
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:52 AM
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A bad personality can also not impact it too much
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:47 AM
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Why do guys not want to believe it? Because it hasn’t happened to you or others who are in the same threads circle jerking each other? Keyword average. And even then that relationship is dependant on the guy putting in more effort.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:45 AM
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One of the sources is men approaching far more often on average
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:42 AM
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Yeah and the man has to put in much more effort to get into the relationship(and the lower we go the less likely men from Genz will find anyone)
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 10:29 PM
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Sorry there is no excuse for not ``recognizing`` someone not showering AND MARRYING THEM
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 10:29 PM
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I can lie and pretend leagues dont exist but we both know thats not the case
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 10:16 PM
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It unfortunately isnt
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:34 PM
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Yeah but there are 2 other studies as well which show that men are more accepting of women taller than them And i recently found one where 5`10 women have a much better shot than 5`5 men.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:33 PM
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Its not that only 20% of guys are dating but if you arent amongst the top 20 you have to shoot lower than your value and put in much more effort than the woman you are interested in.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:31 PM
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``inteligent``
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 11:39 AM
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Not in the way a lot of people here do
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:23 AM
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I mean i never said that but go ahead
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:12 AM
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Yeah im saying in the case(thats the one you claimed is true) dude is both ugly and has a bad personality its her settiling.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:02 AM
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We all litterally say how we dont want to be settled for. Dont play dumb
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:25 AM
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That would just mean she picked a guy who has both bad personality and ugly(and i think you of all people would agree thats not common). Those kind of relationships arent even real relationships tbh.Its desperation and choosing whoever is avaivable
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:03 AM
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It’s unlikely that a woman will be romantic on the first date but that doesn’t mean she hates you or will never show you affection, it just means she doesn’t show it immediately. Women don’t pine over men in an active sense but they may have interest in him so I don’t think that’s a good measure of interest. They do over mind they find attractive ``When men approach women that’s never a concern because a woman won’t say yes if she doesn’t mean it.`` Betabuxx wouldnt exist were that the case
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:35 AM
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Why would you be best friends with someone who is immature?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:32 AM
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4/10 5`6 in a really tall country poor
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:27 AM
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So you admit thats just delusion?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:26 AM
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I know you got mad at other guys in the sub but i assure you im not blaming anyone
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 07:00 PM
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I mean either way i am not blaming anyone soo
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah sorry it doesnt happen on mass and the answer is just happens for all those men not to be their type
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 05:00 PM
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Yep. Otherwise the guy bestfriend they have wouldnt be a guy bestfriend in the first place. If women loved personality so much the guy bestfriend has the best personality but he was never an option
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:43 PM
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Yeah ill do the laser treatment.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 06:55 PM
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``What do they say about your appearance? Any advice from them?`` Ive taken every single advice from them. But they still think im ugly ``If you think your appearance is the issue, it makes sense to improve to the extent you can`` Yeah and i dont want to take plastic surgeries. And as i said i get called insecure for even asking people if i should
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 06:14 PM
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Maybe just maybe sexuality isnt a choice?
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:51 PM
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I have no issues with my body and and can acknowledge another man being attractive/having a good phyisique. Doesnt mean i want to fuck him lol
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:50 PM
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Because far more women are bi than men?
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:47 PM
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``If you are sure, that it's your appearance, I'm curious why wouldn't you want to make it better? But truth to be told there are enough people with huge noses who do have romantic relationships. Do you have friends?`` Its not just the nose. Its just one of the examples i can give because the rest of the face is tough to describe And i dont want to waste money and change myself to such an extent for other people I have plenty of female friends ``Deep scarring doesn't get affected much by product…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:44 PM
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``Can you find something similar to your face? Also if you're sure that your nose doesn't suit you, have you looked up rhinoplasty?`` I cant really just google ugly face ig And i wont to plastic surgery to appeal to women and other people to treat me normally ``What did you try for your skin`` Every product possible. Now im using VELNEA treatment daily facial wash for oily skin With salicylic acid, hamamelis water and glycerin
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 04:42 PM
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Average girls are not ignored
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 02:16 PM
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``The guy in the second picture is fairly attractive imv.`` He is attractive overall but i have a considerably bigger nose(and his is big but his face is overall attractive) ``For the second link it's "page can't be found". If you have acne scarring, have you gone to dermatologist and/or esthetician? Scarring is manageable to a degree and with certain procedures you can make it much better.`` Yes i have for over many years and ive tried absoloutely everything. its better now than a few years bac…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 03:34 AM
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https://cdn.stamped.io/uploads/photos/43139_4803358064725_f306680b_cff3_4cb7_93c1_608b14851fb8.jpg My nose is a bigger https://health.clevelandclinic.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/12/acneScarringRid-467307287-770x533-1-650x428.jpg| My skin looks like that And as for height im 169 while the average guy in my country is 181
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 01:46 AM
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Its not just top 5 And most men dont cold approach
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 12:22 AM
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?I know a lot of guys irl who claim the looks>personality even though they are succesful ``For them, the right one just hasn’t come along yet. Or they haven’t tried hard enough yet, despite bending over backwards.`` Thats delusion
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 12:21 AM
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12cms below average and below average in looks.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 11:12 PM
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`` women are seen as romantic but all romantic gestures are made by men for women .`` This is the biggest mystery to me. Women read more romantic novels so i guess that makes the more romantic...?
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 09:29 PM
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``or more people approach them in case they're a woman`` Which is why i said or are women I also approach way more and have no troubles with my social skills. Its simply that none wants a short ugly gUy in their youth
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 09:19 PM
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The point is way trashier people than me can get into relationships both morally and personality wise. The thing they have in common is that they are more attractive(or are women)
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:10 PM
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?
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:10 PM
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Whats autistic is giving bad advice and blaming it on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:20 PM
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Yeah because that self was already good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:19 PM
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You know this isnt a good argument right
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 06:09 PM
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I do that. Completely irrelevant to my dating situation
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 06:08 PM
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Personality is ONLY relevant if you pass the looks treshold
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 05:29 PM
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Not really disproven by studies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:02 PM
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a
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:46 PM
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Lmfao this seems like chat gpt wrote it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:29 PM
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Thats a made up just world fallacy reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:21 PM
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Ah yes they are just waiting lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:18 PM
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Didnt see it=/= doesnt happen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:17 PM
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Thats still not an excuse to be obese LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:17 PM
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When?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:16 PM
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Ofc they don’t, women are far less shallow when it comes to looks than men Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:16 PM
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This really isnt true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:02 PM
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Oh boy its 99/1 jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:46 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:42 PM
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I mean i am scrolling through the comments and so far i havent seen anyone who is ugly and some are attractive
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:36 PM
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He actually doesnt look too bad in his youth.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:36 PM
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Just world fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:28 AM
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``JFL, just stop.`` Hisoka was a creep though its concerning how many fangirls he has
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:26 AM
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You have like 6 other subs for that
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 06:14 PM
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Countless times. If i was better looking or taller i would have gotten with a lot of them. Oh well..
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:30 PM
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How does not posting your pics in the thread prove that huh?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:32 PM
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Yeah the thing is women on reddit often claim Oh i know a guy who is a 2 to me but he is a 9 to my friend!
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:19 PM
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You dont see it=/= doesnt happen
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:05 PM
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1) I and most single men i know would gladly date her 2)Isnt beauty subjective?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:07 PM
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Convenient?Its convenient that he didnt accuse anyone?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:04 PM
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1)Again still a small % 2)I dont get what your gotcha is?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:45 PM
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Yeah so looks>personality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:32 PM
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The top 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:23 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:12 PM
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Never.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:08 PM
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``And you're now dissatisfied with someone's (or various individuals) expressed honesty because you believe it still sets YOU outside of the dating sphere.`` Its fine if they are honest but giving advice like this serves no purpose
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:07 PM
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Sorry bro(i am the guy that talked to you) it absoloutely has nothing to do with the way i talk or dress. These comments came from people i either DIDNT KNOW or were my good friends. The reason it looks good on you is because you already look good. And no i wasnt nor am insecure about my scar. Other people made comments about it not me.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:04 PM
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What you said still doesnt prove vibes matter more
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:03 PM
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``Most men only want a woman who is young (18-25) and thin and conventionally attractive.`` Proof?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:01 PM
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They matter far less
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:01 PM
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That doesnt really prove anything though. Nor do guys in the sub represent even 0.1% of men
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:00 PM
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Yeah and those kind of men wouldnt even get into relationships or last long if personality was the main thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:58 PM
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Yet they STILL get married
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:58 PM
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After a while meaning they even marry those people. Sorry that just screams to me personality isnt that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:20 PM
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`` Also: first doesnt make sense `` What doesnt make sense? `` They’re not hiding it. Idk where you are getting that from `` So women just tolerate it the entire relationshiP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:10 PM
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`` living with them and during marriage? yes then we agree `` Most couples live together before they get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:09 PM
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`` But you are completely delusional if you think societal standards dont cause this `` If you think this is a societal wide problem then even less reasons for women to get into relationships in the first place `` Second point: it can cause divorce. People sometimes think they can change others or put up with lazy behavior. After a while its too much and the woman can decide to divorce `` Yeah sorry to think majority somehow hid that for 5+ years and the woman didnt pick up on it and they sudden…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:21 PM
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`` Could it be the constant slut shaming that women face? `` It really isnt otherwise they would masturbate more often or want sex just as much as their long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:59 PM
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I’ve always hated that the female body is emphasized in many more ways and much more often than the male, not because it’s wrong but because that prompts more sexual desire for women than men. Huh?Back arms face shoulders abs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:58 PM
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`` It’s not written on their forehead if they “will take the trash out” or not lol……. `` its written by living with them prior to marriage or just being in a relationship??? `` or maybe he can’t lift heavy? maybe he doesn’t like the smell? maybe he wants both to do it somedays only? maybe he’s okay with taking on extra work around the house? not everything is that black and white like that `` Okay but thats different. If he doesnt take out the trash but does other things and you split it up that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:48 PM
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Terrible take
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:46 PM
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No societal standard is telling men to not even take out trash while both him wife work. Thats just the guy being lazy And if her excuse is well thats why divorce happens! It doesnt work because these kind of things dont happen after 5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:45 PM
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lol you keep repeating the same thing but I fail to understand your point. so you acknowledge the fact a lot of men can’t do the basics, yet can’t put that together with the divorce statistics lead by women and the amount of women choosing to be single these days? you are very close to getting it They wouldnt even get into relationships with them were that the case. `` also no woman is going to divorce someone over “not taking the trash out”, idk why you keep mentioning this as an example when i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:26 PM
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What are you yapping about?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 03:00 PM
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Take a look at the original comment saying that a lot dont wash their ass,take out trash and other basic stuff and that most women have it tough because men are not good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:59 PM
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This is a dumb take
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:56 PM
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Or maybe he didint accuse anyone nor does his opinion apply to everybody else
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:18 PM
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`` why wouldn’t people complain about shitty people in general? ` You can complain about anyone but to assume majority of women only/mostly care about personality but often end up with men who cant even wash their ass is funny ``v also I disagree with the last part. living together, marriage, kids etc can and will change stuff. you’ll see a different side of a person when he’s angry or upset. time doesn’t mean anything`` There is a difference between sometimes being angry or upset over a difficu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:12 PM
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1)Its obviously not that rare since only around 30-40% are virgins 2)As i said you wouldnt have a mass complaining their boyfriends if majority only went for personality 3)The true face part doesnt really work as majority of people cannot hide their personality for even more than 3 months(3 month rule) let alone MULTIPLE years
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 12:41 PM
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Thats why i said what i said about him
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:36 PM
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Where?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:29 AM
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Read his comment/history.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:28 AM
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Its when looks dont matter bs fails so they resort to this.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 01:05 AM
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They dont
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 01:01 AM
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I dont see where thats stated
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:59 AM
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That still doesnt prove personality>looks. Just that one was ``overestimated`` while the other was ``underestimated``
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:18 AM
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``apparently not to women according to this study.`` I dont see where its stated its not. It just says kindness and loyalty was underestimated.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:00 AM
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``Never said they have lower standards for physical attraction, just that looks alone are not what makes women want to have sex.`` I dont think anyone ever said that. Its just that its the most important factor ``I don't see an agenda,`` Instead of saying lets see how valuable each trait is! they are just like inkwell propaganda,debunking inkwells etc. They said that legit every other sentence
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:39 PM
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So one of the problems i have is that they clearly do have an agenda and i am a bit hesitant to really trust them(especially with other studies that i provided that contradict this) Second is that this really doesnt prove women having low standards or lower than men for physical attractiveness.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:24 PM
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Crazy thats what people do with the i know a guy anecote
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:53 PM
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I would gladly be in one if my standards are met
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:29 PM
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lazy days in Pjs while you watch some random movies cuddiling>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:04 PM
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Puts equal effort,shares hobbies and interests,opens up to me about any of her problems,shares the same humor and is horny asf for me.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:03 PM
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When did i say people should?
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:02 PM
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You are the last person who should call someone a lost cause
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:55 PM
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I mean studies prove that bullies are more succesful. That doesnt mean you will succeed with everyone And yes there is evidence for that which is why we are contesting it.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:54 PM
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Not really.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yeah and as i said even if one was i really dont want to. If personality mattered 1/10th of looks i would have actually gotten the treatment that my friends did
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yeah no girl is confessing to me.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:12 PM
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It would require me approaching which i dont have the desire to anymore
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:49 PM
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Even if it happens tomorrow i wouldnt care tbh
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:40 AM
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Thats not about looks thats about lack of attention
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:40 AM
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Yeah except there is the horn effect where we already have a massive prejudice for ugly people. The ugly person in question then has to ``prove`` themselves just to be okay to us
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:39 AM
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Yeah i dont want to wait another 10 years. I want to actually have her put in effort now before it comes to the settiling down period. I dont want to have my first at the age where she will immediately want marriage and kids. If personality mattered 1/10th of looks i would have found someone in my youth
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:35 AM
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``because women find confidence sexy `` We already touched this topic. Say i find confidence sexy. It doesnt matter if that person is ugly to me even if they had the most confidence in the world ``you don't sound confident`` based on
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:19 AM
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``Personality > looks. Do people actually regularly tell this to you?`` IRL people agree with me,on reddit i get crucified for saying looks>personality Yeah and those women clearly have no reason to put in effort with a short ugly guy as i havent encountered one in 10 years of trying.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:14 AM
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Prove confidence=pussy ``You don't sound it`` What did i say that doesnt sound like it
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:13 AM
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I am.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:10 AM
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`` Idk why you see everything so black and white. Both looks and personality are important.`` What did i say thats black and white? ``With productive I meant helping you reach the goal of attracting women, not debating people on reddit 😂`` I already told you i am done with that bs. I dont want to get into a relationship in which i put 10x effort more.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:08 AM
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``I just dont see how this mindset will result in anything productive`` I mean you are acting as if this mindset wasnt made from my entire life experience. If i was still a delusional bluepiller i would still spew personality>looks or think that i am hot like i used to a few years ago And debating and debunking people here is productive enough for me.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:04 AM
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I didnt say it is. I am confident and women have a bigger bone to pick with my looks and height than i do.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:00 AM
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``You can do everything right and still not get any women if you are a deformed burn victim maybe`` Which he disagrees with `` But even a “short ugly guy” can get women if he improves in other areas. hiding behind factors u cant do anything about is a losers mentality 1 `` I dont hide behind it. I just dont believe i am doing anything worse than majority of dumb men that get laid except for being shorter and uglier than them.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:58 AM
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``Idk why you are taking these opinions of people around you as facts`` Because they see me interact and dont hold back when it comes to pointing wrong things out? `` If you arent getting women, you’re doing something wrong. It’s simple`` 1)This isnt a math question in which you learn something and if you dont answer it correctly its purely your fault. You can do everything right and people can be not interested in you 2)Yes i agree i am short and ugly. Thats a huge issue
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:55 AM
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I mean it isnt. Studies show there isnt much of a gap
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:50 AM
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They are more than happy to critisize when i ask them to about behavior style haircut how my body looks etc
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:50 AM
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``You're doing something wrong `` Everyone does something wrong none is perfect `` being short and ugly doesn't make sex impossible`` I didnt say it does. I am just disagreeing with it being easy ``Do women tell you You're confident? There's funny and there's flirty funny`` Yes?In fact ive been told by multiple close people when i open up about my problems that they couldnt tell that since i am always outgoing and funny. I am flirty. But you cant flirt with a wall.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:47 AM
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`` Probably being gaslit by girls`` Why would i be gaslit by other guy friends and women who i am not even close with?
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:45 AM
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``Probably not as confident and funny as you think you are`` People call me that not me. ``You might also be trying too hard`` I go as hard as people on reddit,female friends etc tell me to `` going for women way way out of your league `` Any woman thats not obese,heavily deformed,burn victim,criminal,bald,showers at least twice a week and is genuienly horny for me is good enough.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:32 AM
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I didnt say i would. But confidence and humor led me and other men like me nowhere. People like you more but we dont get laid easily.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 11:55 PM
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Saying its one basic rules of life doesnt prove anything . Women can dig confidence and a sense of humor and also not want to date that person who has it.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 11:40 PM
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Can you prove that?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 11:31 PM
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Yeah so what does make getting laid easy for short ugly men
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 11:22 PM
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``Sorry about the First Topic I think we are having a misunderstanding, i'm talking about the people who see themselves as ugly and rule this as the only reason they dont get dates. `` yeah they dont have high standards. I think im ugly-doesnt mean i have high standards `` most girl friends of Mine have difficult in finding dates because most man are creepy. They are forced to be pick, its not a choice.`` Again i am not talking about that. I am saying that if men were so picky most women would b…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 11:16 PM
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So do you think haircut and clothes=easy ticket to get laid for short ugly men/
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 11:14 PM
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``agree, but this does not disproves that average people and ugly people have too High standards`` If they didnt ugly ones wouldnt get in relationships `Man however don't have these worries so obviously they literally Just need to find an average woman.`` Cool women can pick whoever they want ``question what is a FA`` Foreveralone. I dont identify as an i word `` Keeping up with that, people that tould you that are Just shit people, same people who Tell Young girls that they need to be "submisse…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:59 PM
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Yes they do often. Again none was interested
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:57 PM
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You havent proven nor agreed that getting a haircut and fashion makes things easy. You said its one of pieces to a solution.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:46 PM
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1)If men were only interested in women above their physical level we would have far more women single than men given that men initiate on average a lot more. Thus the virginity/single rate would be flipped 2)We know women care about looks just as much as men therefore it wouldnt make sense anyway 3)Men have lesser standards and are more desperate. This is also why a lot less women are virgins/single 4)This isnt based on science but from my experience as a FA we are often told that women can smel…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:46 PM
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You dont agree with your own premise
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:43 PM
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This is blatantly false
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:36 PM
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``Just talk to women bro' means to just interact with them like normal people. Not make moves on them. Do that enough and one might develop an interest in you, that you then decide to pursue if you're also interested.`` Then you get women and men here flaming those who take this advice because you didnt show interest in her! ``Treat them like normal ass people, and doors will open for you.`` I do and have plenty of girl friends. Not a single woman was interested however
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:34 PM
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Most people are average and pretty/ugly is pretty split
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:33 PM
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Of course college women are still women, but given that their prefrontal cortex isn't developed yet, it's not exactly prudent to use such a narrow focus to form a conclusion. Neither is mens and men are less mature at that age so if anything we shouldnt have those results if men were more visual ``Basically, it points out that if one of the partners has less value in a particular trait, this is compensated for by having another feature that is more valuable`` Yeah but clearly it doesnt effect wo…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:29 PM
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if you are ugly and short its more or less irrelevant
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:14 PM
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Nothing to do with the title though?We are talking about looks
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:09 PM
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?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:05 PM
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`College age women is not a really reliable sampling to make a conclusion about women overall, and your last link is a poll, not a study.`` College women are still women. They dont become butterflies later ``and your last link is a poll, not a study`` They were still asked and women responded. I dont see whats wrong with that lol https://reis.cis.es//REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf For men, the results show that being unattractive decreases the likelihood of finding a partner, of f…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:56 PM
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I already sent you one https://www.psypost.org/2021/07/college-women-value-physical-attractiveness-in-their-sexual-partners-just-as-much-as-men-do-study-finds-61278 https://thetab.com/uk/2016/11/16/women-shallow-men-comes-judging-people-looks-says-research-25773 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/06/study-women-more-likely-than-men-to-reject-unattractive-babies/ There are a couple more which show either = or women judging more
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:45 PM
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There are plenty of studies showing women care just as much and in some more about physical attractivness
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:07 PM
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Nothing in that specific study proves that
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:53 PM
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Yes it does...?Both men and women are very visual
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:52 PM
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I know plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:34 PM
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Yeah nothing in that study debunks looks mattering more or the fact that we cant even percieve personality well duo to halo horn effect https://reis.cis.es//REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf For men, the results show that being unattractive decreases the likelihood of finding a partner, of finding a partner with a university degree, and of finding a partner with a higher educational level. For women, physical attractiveness does not affect the likelihood of any of those events occurr…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:33 PM
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A study confirmed that cheating isnt just when a partner is unhappy about their current relationship. I can send you the link to that if you want And the cheating rates are different depending on the age wanyway its not a landslide difference
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:14 PM
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I mean he is completely right here
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:12 PM
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i responded to your original comment in which you were trash talking men and how a lot of women complain about their husbands not even taking out trash
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:11 PM
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I go back and watch the rest of this game in a wife beater under shirt with a little blood on it. I can not go to games without my wife and not have women flirt with me. It gets brought up all the time and it's been 5 or more years. Yeah and none would care if you werent attractive ``There are things going on in these women's to make you attractive or unattractive you'll never know guys. How you act in public is a bigger factor than how you look. Women take in a lot of information. Not being att…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:10 PM
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You said its easy.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:08 PM
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If you and other women cared so much about personality you wouldnt end up with guys who cant even throw out garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:08 PM
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This study had absrtacts without sources and there are plenty other showing that even when women say they want personality and dont care much about looks it isnt really true
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:07 PM
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Yeah i havent seen anyone say ALL men want traditionality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah and i am saying if those were your standards you simply wouldnt end up with guys like that constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:52 PM
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Not the same thing that you originally said
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 06:47 PM
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Asians such as kpop pretty boys yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:27 PM
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Yep. Or when a good looking guy cracks a terrible joke but girls then fake laugh and being grabbing his arm oH yOu ArE sO fUnNy. Its jut our lizard brains being biased
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:57 PM
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When did anyone from Rp say all men want traditional women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:54 PM
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Yeah making women laugh is irrelevant if you arent attractive to them Not to mention that people cant even properly tell who is actually funny duo to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:45 PM
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They get to choose those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:38 PM
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Dont yall only choose guys with good personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:38 PM
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A lot of us do. Thats the point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:37 PM
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Because humor is irrelevant if she doesnt find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:35 PM
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Studies show looks correlate with whom we find funny
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:35 PM
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Disconnect comes from the fact that men who are told that are usually sweet but ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:33 PM
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How is that funny?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 04:15 PM
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Yeah it does help but it doesnt make it easy nor is it a solution
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 04:12 PM
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You said that its easy so i am assuming you conceded on that? And can you prove getting a haircut and different clothes makes it easy for short ugly men to get laid?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:02 AM
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Yeah i didnt say all people prefer bullies. However you said the chance decreases if you are one which is clearly not the case.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:31 AM
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Experience for you=/= applies to everyone.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:24 AM
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Funny since bullies get laid more often.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:18 AM
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Okay so no proof gotcha
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:03 AM
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Prove both
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:50 AM
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``5'3 ugly guys get laid also . Getting laid is easy for anyone`` They dont and its not.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:49 AM
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fastro if you want to play a game of anecdotes on this topic you arent winning it.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:41 AM
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None said anything is 100% truth. Almost nothing is
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:40 AM
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Whats shocking about this?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:39 AM
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He is upvoted
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:38 AM
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That wasnt what the posts were saying though especially upvoted ones. And not many 5`3 ugly guys are getting laid in this generation
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:36 AM
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Debate in good fate and not gaslight for starters
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
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Not all of it is bs what
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
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Correct but not being nice is only going to decrease your chances, not increase your chances of anything happening. Not really
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
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Those things you listed for men are bare minimum. A lot of women can achieve most of those attributes, if not all, so from our POV that is the foundation. So if men are failing at that bare minimum standard, you can argue the bar is low. Most of the women ARE not what you listed especially in USA
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:24 PM
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Personality simply doesnt matter if she finds you ugly
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:16 PM
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My husband (5'5-5'6) approached me, told me he thought I was hot and wanted to date me. People legit claim all the time thats a terrible approach ``He wasn't my "type" but I loved his confidence. His approach. What a gentleman he was. How fun our dates were. So I dated him, moved in with him, then married him. 13 years now. I'd rather die than be without him.`` Cool i am as well. No i do not get any interest from women
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:14 PM
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It isnt everything but its most
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:34 PM
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Most people are shallow you are getting it twisted
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:27 PM
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I didnt say it doesnt matter. But to think someone is perpetually single and cant get laid at all because le bad social skills is dumb and it ONLY applies to very specific cases like autisim or complete shut ins.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:25 PM
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Yet they get into relationships?
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:24 PM
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It has often been framed that way. Surely, you've noticed bluepillers telling men to work on their social skills since forever. If you haven't made the connection between social skills and "good personality," you've just missed the point. No i am talking about the whole you are an inkwell because le bad person! `Ergo, when some people say "good personality" they probably do mean be a good person. When some say "good personality," they don't care about morality at all. When some say "good persona…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:00 PM
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Studies show its because people want to appear better and to get social clout. Thus they often list socially accepted behaviour as their priority and claim they dont care about anything superficial.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:40 PM
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Okay so 95% of women here have bad personalities according to that?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:37 PM
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Basically if this whole time it wasnt about morality but rather about social skills, then why is it rarely framed that way?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:37 PM
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Real. I am still waiting for a girl that i crush on to put in as much effort as i do.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 04:00 PM
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In fact OP studies show otherwise. Men are less judgmental when it comes to looks
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:56 PM
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Doesnt answer the thread.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:56 PM
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Ive been accused of having it by people who later on sent m r4pe or death trheats in dms or were absolute assholes to me
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:51 PM
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Yeah and a lot of us do that
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:51 PM
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How can you tell social skills based on a debate?And no most of the times its used for morality not social skills
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:50 PM
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Then it makes even less sense when some of us get accused of it what?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:39 PM
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I am more than happy to date those who are fat. But obese complicates stuff that arent even about attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:54 AM
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havent seen anyone who is ugly date 10/10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:11 PM
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Looks>personality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:05 PM
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it is cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:55 PM
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Male
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:49 PM
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Yep also college education and agreeablness is also something wedgaf about
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:49 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:36 PM
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Nothing to do with B pill
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:30 PM
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Pretty uncomfortable. They rarely put any effort and its usually me asking them about their anime/music/game shirt or when i help them with something. So i just leave since they are usually uninterested
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:29 PM
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Its nto some some. its overwhelmingly looks
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:28 PM
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Something something internet isnt real life
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:08 PM
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You litterally said thats evidence what
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:07 PM
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Because for women its much easier to be found attractive
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 07:57 PM
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What you said proves nothing though?
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 07:56 PM
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Every day They are family members,female friends and sometimes randoms
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 07:55 PM
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`` No hot girl would have an ugly bestie. `` A lot do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:51 PM
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Cap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:51 PM
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No one’s lying to y’all. No one is manipulating y’all. A lot are `` Women have continuously complained about the horrid men they’ve met to the point there are groups asking whether they’re dating the same asshole to protect other women… `` Wouldnt happen if personality was that valued `` So honestly women rly shouldn’t say anything to men anymore. Y’all don’t take criticism well. Whenever we don’t fit what you guys claim you bully us, you make fun of the relationships we do get in with average d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:49 PM
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Just because you know something doesnt mean you can execute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:42 PM
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If you are hot yourself yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:40 PM
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So can we finally agree why friends to lovers doesnt work and its not because of ``creepiness``
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:40 PM
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Subjective and hottest men in the world are a paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:39 PM
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`` what have you done to get around this `` Everything my female friends and women on reddit told me `` how much effort are you putting into your appearance `` I shower 6/7 days, i go to the gym and play tennis and football, i use products for my skin concerning my acne and acne scars, i take care of my body hair, iget haircuts that they recommend me to etc `` what type of women are you attracted to `` Any that arent obese,burn victim,bald and those that dont shower at least 2 times a week. As f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:38 PM
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Men arent constantly friendzoning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:14 PM
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I am ugly And i am one of the few(others who havent are ugly too) amongst friends whom havent just met someone. Meanwhile attractive guy friends have at least 1 girl attracted to them wherever they go
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:01 PM
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Yeah and i am saying as an ugly guy i havent just met someone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:58 PM
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Did i say either of them were?Can you women stop throwing the word entitled everytime you type something on reddit holy
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 05:57 PM
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Usual answers are ugly and or short
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:59 PM
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They arent romantically interested
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:51 PM
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Its not women are emotionally inteligent. Its done on purpose or they are influenced by halo/horn effect
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:45 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:44 PM
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I do both. Doesnt mean crap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:25 PM
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Yep. I never said i am entitled to it just want it. Pretty easy to differentiate but ig women here are just misunderstanding that on purpose
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:25 PM
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Aint the first time she lied.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:24 PM
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I am around early- mid 20s women. Still 80% of them arent attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:23 PM
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It really isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:20 PM
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You are thirsting over because he is hot not because he is clean
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:55 PM
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It does
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:46 PM
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5`2 deformed balding burn victim janitor who confidently drinks water or 6`1 handsome fluffy hair lean guy?
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 01:21 PM
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Very rare
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 01:20 PM
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Its crazy how much hate comments she got for saying we shouldnt treat men like trash
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 01:16 PM
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Yeah thats just how it is for us average to ugly guys. We have to try way harder,cant just coast through life and get women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:13 AM
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Yeah obviously the word used is ``delulu`` but they are not fucking put on a cross for having a crush like you are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:50 PM
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Yeah being close was never a problem for me. I have plenty of girl friends. The problem is being ugly despite supposedly not being toxic and having basic hygiene which would put me way over 60% of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:46 PM
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I went to tango,hickeying,vollounteered, chess and tennis clubs. I also went to casual places such as bars and clubs or friend of a friend meet up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:39 PM
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Its cringe and not in good faith
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 11:36 PM
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I didnt say it wasnt okay not to be heterosexual
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 10:23 PM
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Not...the point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:00 PM
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Sometimes its unexpected(when its the tall hot guy friends) and the average ones who arent getting any attention from women need to ask their friends to constantly set them up. So yeah its not random for non top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:53 PM
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I leave my room regularly. No relationship still.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:46 PM
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Friend of a friend was the most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:46 PM
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Yawn ugly guys who dont care about getting laid arent found attractive by majority of women yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:02 PM
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By that logic i would be swimming in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:51 PM
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`` attractive and charming to 80% women around you and they will want to be support to your dreams. I will repeat again - we can sense your content, and it’s damn attractive. Women simply have really high intuition, and most of us act accordingly. `` I do that and dont have 80% of women attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:49 PM
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They find it with guys who are working their ass off by approaching constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:43 PM
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Dating apps, bars,clubs or when their friend hooks them up with a friend l.ALL intentional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:41 PM
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`` The second you stop chasing like a madman and just lay back and relax, women notice immediately. Because they all want the guy they can't get. And guys who don't chase and try hard are hard to get. Desperate and needy guys are super easy to get. `` The guys they cant get are tall and hot. Thats the point xD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:39 PM
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Not what happens except in your deluded bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:36 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:35 PM
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Dont see women who have crushed get told this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:33 PM
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Well if 80% of women are average or above average it makes sense that 20% wont have a super easy time. But thats all the more reason for those 20% of women to speak up about how bs this advice is then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:29 PM
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Yep they are just walking contradictions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:10 PM
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Thats not when we claim its settiling. A woman being all giggly and excited for her wedding and whatever doesnt happen too often
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:08 PM
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There isnt. Its used as a homophobic ``joke``
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 06:54 PM
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A very small one
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 04:43 PM
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I can understand them perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:43 PM
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You arent ugly though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:02 PM
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Except unattractive men who are confident have way more success with women vs. unattractive men who aren’t, or even average guys who are shy. Now where you are correct is that it’s a lot easier for attractive people to be confident. We dont
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:59 PM
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` you can go to Korea and break your legs to make yourself highe `` Absoloutely not remotely the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:56 PM
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You said a bunch of nothing and used big words
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:55 PM
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half of what you listed was capability not confidence and you wouldnt care anyway if he wasnt attractive to you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:51 PM
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A lot of these just dont work
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 03:09 PM
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There is a difference between meg and stacy you know that right?Not any woman who isnt meg is a stacy
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:11 PM
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Because its a stuipid gay gotcha bullshit
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 12:43 PM
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1)Not wanting to date Meg or whoever it is doesnt maek him shitty 2)You need to learn what hypocrite means
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 12:34 PM
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How is that being a hypocrite what
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:17 PM
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I dont see it irl thats what i am saying. Especially not regularly like she is implying
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:11 PM
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I also go out and know how it is. No ugly short guys are pulling.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 04:26 PM
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What am i trying to cope with?You are because you cant imagine someone having a different life experience so they must be a basement dweller
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 03:41 PM
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Yeah because if someone doesnt share the same opinion that means they dont go out. Keep coping
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 03:14 PM
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Yeah and i never saw that. So why am i to believe you?
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 12:38 PM
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Happens after they get rejected by a good guy as well
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 12:14 PM
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It is. But i dont bother approaching anymore or trying to ``rizz`` anyone up
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 12:13 PM
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IT really isnt.As long as you arent autistic you are good to go.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 12:12 PM
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I have been playing sports and have been going to the gym for 2 years now and eat healthy I take products that my dermatologists recommended for my acne and now acne scars that are present after puberty(and i still cant fix them) I have haircuts that my female and male friends told me to get and same with fashion I take care of body hair albeit there isnt much of it anyway I shower 6 times a week and use more products than what most men use(3 in 1) and take care of my hygiene in general. There i…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:52 AM
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Must have been your bad personality that made your face ugly!!1!
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:43 AM
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Yeah and how many are interested in guys my height and my looks that arent demi?From my experience 0% despite going out 24/7 the past few years
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:41 AM
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Yes i do ``blame``. However im not bitter about it or mad at people who dont want to date me. Its just how it is So yes the point was that a guy CAN BE SINGLE while not being bitter/resentful Thats the point of the post
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:40 AM
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That wasnt the point(you missed it again but thats not surprising) The point is that yes you can be perma single WHILE working on yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:01 AM
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``This assumes that only demisexuals would be attracted to you, which of course doesn’t make sense.`` Because they are the only ones who dont care about looks/height(maybe asexuals but i have no intention of dating them)
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:53 AM
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From the amount of demisexuals t's a rare form of asexuality that only around 1 percent of the population ascribes to. So, chances are very rare that you've met a demisexual. The “demisexual definition,” as one might guess, comes from the terms "demi" "and sexual." “Demi” is the French word for half https://www.yourtango.com/2018312034/what-demisexual-meaning-13-signs-you-might-fit-demisexual-definition ``Does that mean you have stopped trying to find a woman? Because that would be a waste.`` Ye…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:48 AM
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She can but its usually used as it must be your personality since vast majority dont care!!!1! Especially with studies and irl experience. Not caring at all whatsoever is non existent from my life. ``Who even cares about the majority? Does having a trait that the majority doesn’t like mean that it’s doomed? Ofc not 😂` Because if you are short and ugly you are fighting for <2%
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:43 AM
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It is terrible if it happens to him constantly. usually a byproduct of looks
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:35 AM
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`` But as a general rule, complaining about the friendzone isn't going to do you any favors.`` I dont but calling it a crimson red flag is dumb
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:30 AM
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Because they speak for majority and we know its not the case for majority One woman on reddit doesnt really help anyones odds anyway
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:28 AM
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She also claims 90% of women get rejected constantly by bottom tier men jfc
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:25 AM
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``Then those folks are wrong. Someone saying something doesn't mean it's okay or a good idea.`` Point being that redditors get worked up over it more than girls do ``Lol, we'll agree to disagree. I think its more complicated than that.`` its not the only but its the main one
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:22 AM
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With a bunch of women
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:58 AM
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Majority of guys cant and couples are usually looks matched And no its not about talking or relating
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:58 AM
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Yet they have relationships
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:50 AM
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``This isn't a thing. They either saw you as a friend or not. Turning it into this "friendzone" notion is just weird and a crimson red flag. Relax.`` Women say it all the time irl yet i see redditors here treating it like its h1tler level red flag ``ou lost me there, but you're entitled to your opinion.`` Its facts
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:43 AM
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I dont use anecdotes alone to prove my points nor do i speak for every woman. I even specify on multiple occasions that i am talking in general or for some You meanwhile claimed EVERY single guy here is single because muh creep and used words like think and probably about guys caring more about looks when the rates are pretty similiar with guys having lesser standards.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:31 AM
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No they can understand they just dont want to I explain why each advice they give is bad
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 08:34 PM
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