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``It sounds like you just are totally against dating someone that isn’t super physically attractive to you right off the bat even though that is the same standard you are so mad at woman for having.`` You added the super physically attractive part which he never claimed ``I think if more of you guys gave it a chance there are a lot of woman out there who understand the league they are in and would be willing to date someone less attractive.`` They dont. They stay single lmao
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/24 04:17 AM
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Thats a speed dating study and it shows the same result. Those 10-15 min convos didnt matter
/r/BlackPillScience14/06/24 01:35 PM
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Because normal ones just want to be friends and arent attracted.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/24 10:36 PM
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Well normies harp on about 10/10 bombshells dating ugly men constantly cause they have confidence
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/24 10:35 PM
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They really dont
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/23 04:29 PM
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Im sorry personality personality personality confidence personality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:24 PM
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Not sure why you are assuming i did nothing but k
/r/BlackPillScience01/12/23 10:03 PM
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Seeing 1 guy do it isnt an inspiration lmao And amongst my generation i havent seen one
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 07:15 AM
1

That can also mean that you...look good bald
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 07:14 AM
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Confidence isnt and we cant even 100% accurately tell who is funny
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:48 AM
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There was another which showed psychopathy does. Its 50/50
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:43 AM
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The thing is idk why you are assuming those men didnt do what you did. Its not like neurodivigent men are inherently more lazy or whatever
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:26 AM
3

Fellow tennis player here. Ive sparred and met great girls there but none of it leads to a relationship. Meanwhile my guy friends who play it semi regularly have gotten hook ups/relationships with them
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/23 06:10 AM
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I mean it just blatantly is `` Correct. Turns out that if you can show people you’re able to achieve goals, be successful, and not be a shitty person, people will be attracted to you regardless of how you look `` Plenty of shitty people get laid As well as the fact that you said REGARDLESS of how you look and presented it as an universal fact. Both times fallacious
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:51 PM
1

Nope. I can send studies about it
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:50 PM
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They do
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:03 PM
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Its a just world fallacy and hasty generelization
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:03 PM
1

There are multiple studies done showing that people cant accurately tell who is funny
/r/BlackPillScience24/11/23 02:03 PM
1

Ugh no?This is just fallacious
/r/BlackPillScience23/11/23 01:59 PM
1

``` But also not really? Women in relationships generally don’t care about looks as much as guys do. `` Multiple studies show its close/equal or that they care more
/r/BlackPillScience23/11/23 01:58 PM
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It unfortunately is. People cant even tell who is funny lmao
/r/BlackPillScience23/11/23 01:58 PM
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I do go around. Ugly short guys with gfs are rare let alone with hot ones
/r/BlackPillScience18/11/23 12:36 AM
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I mean sure. But when stats say vast majority in multiple studies and in real life none wants you yeah
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 09:51 PM
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Doesnt help
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:18 PM
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I dont. Im memeing bluepillers who say this but then tell you that you have high standards
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 03:59 AM
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Never has
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:57 AM
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Lets hear that advice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:57 AM
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Wait hold on. Isnt beauty subjective?One mans mid woman can be another ones pretty. it wouldnt make mens standards high right?
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:36 AM
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I mean as long as a chad has a few hooks ups or fwbs thats enough
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:29 AM
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I mean both genders are chronically online amongst genz And older men do better in the sense they arent virgins. But divorce rate indicates most are in bad situations
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:03 AM
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Basically women who arent single are in fwbs/hook ups or some are dating older. While other men have multiple women either while they are in relationships or in rotation(ie they have 5 fwbs)
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:02 AM
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``No, I said a dead guy thinks your behaviour is pathetic and that is demonstrably true using a quote..`` I asked you to prove why that quote is true/applicable in this context not whether or not the quote itself exists.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 12:01 AM
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``If looks were the only thing that matters, there would be no break-ups.`` I mean everyone here says to get your foot into the door. If you fuck up as a good looking man thats completely on you. ``In this aspect, some of the people have gone too far away on this subreddit. I've even seen some comments claiming that Gerbert Johnson is becoming famous just because he's handsome but other blackpilled guys didn't because they are ugly etc. Is it really that simple, guys? For example, how many times…
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 08:29 PM
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I never said anything about it?I just said that normies absoloutely use it as an insult online
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:23 PM
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No its used as an insult. Yikes maybe take a shower and a girl wouldnt be disgusted by you?-something ive heard a lot in my life
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:09 PM
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If you accuse someone of something on a debate sub you should back it up
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:58 PM
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I didnt ask you to prove the quote exists.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:58 PM
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What of my comments here had anything to do with self pity?
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:46 AM
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Prove its true
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:46 AM
1

None is hysterical. You are just using it as some kind of evidence and if someone disagrees with it they must be x y z
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:59 AM
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So much for the debate part lmao I would like you to try and prove this but you cant
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:59 AM
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Why does his opinion matter? ``If I am mean to you, there is a really, really good chance it's because you are an affront to this quote`` Lmao at this. Dont justify you being a massive fucking asshole. If this is your stance you wouldnt be apologizing every other day.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 02:45 AM
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You are basically making it so that anyone who dares to disagree is just wrong by default
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 02:44 AM
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They are both absoloute trainwrecks and he seems to be abusing her and is far from having a good personality
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:43 PM
3

Huh?
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:02 PM
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It was totally made up dont worry!Keep living in your bubble
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:01 PM
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Yeah except a lot of these things did happen to me
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:01 PM
1

The gap isnt anywhere near 30% especially in youth
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:06 PM
1

Where does it say 50%
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:05 PM
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1)Yes but they still married. It didnt prevent them from actually marrying(And btw where is the personality detector there?) 2)Send me that stat
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:26 PM
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There isnt any reason for a gender that pursues, is hornier and remarries more somehow is only single because most of them can date but choose not to
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:54 PM
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Astrology and facts like looks and height arent the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:51 PM
1

Accurate
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:50 PM
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Actually we cant exactly tell who is funny. This was confirmed by studies
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:55 PM
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I mean its for sure not of his great personality before bluepillers jump on this lol
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:16 AM
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It wont
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:43 PM
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Men will then mostly be single. You wont be perma single if you tell your boyfriends to wear condoms
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:25 PM
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Men can refuse what
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 05:20 PM
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And you can just refuse,,?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:34 PM
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I mean you are yet to
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:50 AM
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Fastro you already got debunked by me 50 times
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 11:23 PM
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None in the history said that anyone below sub 8 hasnt gotten in a relationship
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 11:19 PM
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It does because the insults are almost NEVER about personality
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:20 AM
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Hey bro leave some for the rest of us
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:16 AM
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People irl dont tell me that since i have bunch of girl friends People on the internet make an assumption and then if i do tell them i am nice they tell me i must be faking it See where the problem is?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:09 PM
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Huh?This wasnt directed at women but anyone who says this and he was MOCKING those people. Its not that i dont take agression seriously its that he wasnt being agressive just an ass to those people
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:19 PM
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1)It doesnt provide hope because half the time its clearly larp 2)It contradicts a lot of their statements/beliefs that they have on beauty
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:10 PM
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Dont they have personality detectors?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:09 PM
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At worst its mocking to the people who say it
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:08 PM
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1)An ugly guy cant slay, not that an average-above average guy cant. Especially if he lowers his standards 2)``Status is irrelevant“ theory.`` Who said this though?We acknowledge that status and money can get you into a relationship but it wont buy you actual attraction. And getting that kind of actor level status is kind of impossible for 95% of men
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:31 AM
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Read the rest of my comment
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:27 AM
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My friend group constantly gets hit on by girls at clubs/parties or when we meet friend of a friend Suddenly women dont mind dating within friend groups when its with my attractive friends
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:21 PM
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Mate 230 is better than most men can do
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:06 PM
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I see it constantly lmao
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:05 PM
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But thats not when the be nice is brought up. Its used as a gotcha:you must not be a nice person! Oh you are?Well thats just because you want sex!!!!!!!!!!1 Baseless shitty assumptions
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:03 PM
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1)Its not n act 2)I view them as people. That doesnt make them want to fuck
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:03 PM
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Nope. I was nice and still am to people who i dont want to fuck
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:02 PM
1

```How often do you change your mind ? Seems like you only agree with the extreme minority in here, may the issue be the common denominator`` This is a fallacious argument
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:01 PM
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Nothing he said is dangerous stop being dramatic
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 07:58 PM
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``Proof of you seething`` Crazy how that thread has nothing to do with this topic. And god forbid someone feels bad over the 100th rejection! ``You clearly don’t think looks are subjective`` I dont but women claim beauty is subjective. Im using that argument against yall
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 05:20 PM
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Who is seething?Im just asking you questions that you seemingly cant answer
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:47 AM
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You can rate someone and still think beauty is subjective .its not mutually exclusive
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:42 AM
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Its not since i dont consider it fumbiling
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:40 PM
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Yeah im using womens logic
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:18 PM
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I dont really. I approached 100+ and can observe women when they are interested in my friends. Never had the same reaction or gaze from them like when my friends walk in And yes if you dont find anyone and magically do after specifically 30 its more than likely settiling down
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:16 PM
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I used to go every weekend or friday
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:15 PM
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Im not insecure. Im objectively below average height and i have no issues with my face. Other poeple do
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:28 PM
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Yes. Doesnt make them want to fuck a guy who is ugly and short
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:24 PM
1

Tiktok
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:03 PM
2

Yeah well not in my case
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 10:03 PM
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Men should not simp or worship lmao
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:24 PM
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Fortunately for us we arent fcking up anything because unlike OP we dont have women hitting on us
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:23 PM
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So real
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:22 PM
3

Where is your basis for probs?
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:21 PM
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There is no ugly and pretty if beauty is subjective
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:17 PM
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Havent seen an attractive guy on tt give an ick
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:15 PM
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That doesnt mean personality on its own makes you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:14 PM
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Same but i never actually had any attention
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:11 AM
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But dont they like confident men fawning over them
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:11 AM
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You are assuming he didnt have it
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 10:07 PM
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If he worked on himself and it didnt work i dont mind it
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 09:49 PM
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Thats actually crazy. Happened to me a couple of times
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 07:22 PM
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I have nothing against self improvement. I have it when just focus on yourself bro is used in irrelevant context
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 06:45 PM
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So his only hope is that women who would otherwise reject him dont because its harder?XD
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 06:22 PM
2

Not sure how you jumped to that conclusion?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:30 PM
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Just focus on yourself bro
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:20 PM
1

Yeah so you get hit on. I never have. Meaning you arent ugly like us and you are of average height
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:17 PM
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This was too funny
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:45 PM
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I mean yes shitty men do get laid and get away with a lot of stuff if they are attractive
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:04 PM
2

Let us hear your secret!!1!
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:02 PM
1

On average yeah
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:14 PM
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Women can look much better than us in 30s. They are just coping
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:01 PM
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You dont need to believe all dont to not open up.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:00 PM
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Which is true for a lot of men who dont. They dont do it for no reason
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:52 PM
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Its also a generilization to say men dont talk about them all. But a lot of who dont do it because of that yes
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:21 PM
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Oh scaryyyy
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:10 PM
-8

If you arent baiting ,this just isnt the case. Most ignore you
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:05 PM
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Men dont talk about their feelings because women dont give a crap lmao
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:53 PM
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You are the last person who should say that someone is making stuff up
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:26 PM
1

Yeah men remarry more(30`s are the primetime for idvorces) and then after 40 there are less men in western countries
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:19 PM
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Lay report? Why do you assume anyone who is ugly just hasnt worked on themselves?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:25 PM
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Yeah unfortunately thats not a reality for ugly men
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:57 PM
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Approaching all the women is worse
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:13 PM
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The older number only applies to very old women when men die out/remarry
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:12 PM
1

F
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:05 PM
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``Short can be solved with shoelifts (assuming you don't wanna go the surgical route)`` This doesnt help
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:05 PM
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Yeah except as i said the treatment is vastly different. Its dependent on you playing jester and putting a lot more effort in just to end up like the average husband whose biggest wish is for his wife to compliment him more
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:02 PM
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Yes you dont need to be to get into a relationship. But there is a massive difference in the treatment he gets
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:51 PM
2

Well 6 is only really relevant once you are in a relationship Humor and charm is influenced by halo horn effect So realistically 5 and social skills are the only things you can max out
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:51 PM
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Fallacious argument
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:34 PM
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You replied to me why wouldnt i think its refering to me when you didnt specify anything? Edit:When do i make everything about myself?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 05:00 PM
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When was i bitter to anyone over making a joke?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:52 PM
1

Ah yes totally
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:04 PM
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Result based analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:03 PM
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My sister is dating a minority guy bangledashi but they were friends for years before she decided to give him a chance Feel bad for him
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:53 PM
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Any bluep on this sub when they make a joke its so cringe i cant
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:49 PM
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Most people who are considered funny dont spawn a joke out of thin air but play it off something
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:49 PM
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Proof?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:43 PM
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Should i send you links of me and some other people saying we are ugly?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:43 PM
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Think he would be more against his wife being here
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:48 PM
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Women insult men who are ugly too. What is your point?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:24 PM
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We dont what
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:24 PM
3

``Men here all claim to be average looking`` What?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:24 PM
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Isnt beauty subjective?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:18 PM
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That example wouldnt even work in this convo because it would imply he thinks balding and being 5`1 is a handicap inherently
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:38 PM
2

``Looks height and length aren't what matters. Personality matters most for a successful healthy relationship`` Prove that
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:45 PM
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Virgin has nothing to do with it
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:44 PM
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havent been called any of that because unlike women here i can respectfully debate/discuss
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:44 PM
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Im from Eastern europe as well. Hell on earth for sub 5 men
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:40 PM
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Dissagreeing is fine. What you and most do isnt
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 04:40 PM
0

She is above average and above his league
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 07:41 PM
2

I do. Can bench 100kg
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:39 PM
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Im sure she did
/r/BlackPillScience27/10/23 11:38 PM
1

Yeah i know its tough for bluepillers to substantiate any claim they make. What an awesome personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:35 PM
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Women swipe on far less men and messaging them doesnt mean they are attracted
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:03 PM
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I changed it plenty. My point is you cant say oh but even if you do imrpove it you can easily die as a virgin if people with trashy personality and good looks are getting laid 24/7 and then claim personality is 2 LEAGUES ABOVE XD
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 10:27 PM
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Im not saying that. But that inherently doesnt make it better. I am talking about people who say:oh go outget a great personality! Oh but its not very likely so dont feel bad if you die a virgin at least you self improved Like you cant say this and claim personality is even in the same league as looks
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:32 PM
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Em not the same thing?How does go karting have anything to do with the great personaltiy?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:28 PM
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If they want to have sex with you it just means your personality isnt good enough for relationships
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:27 PM
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Its not just you who says it. Plenty of bluepillers here claim oh but its not very likely so dont be said if you dont find a gf even if you have a great personality at least you worked on yourself!! Like huh then personality means very little
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:29 PM
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``your death bed still a virgin, you'll be able to look everyone in the eye and say you gave it your best shot`` If personality mattered so much this wouldnt even be a possbility
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:56 AM
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``“you see, your insular point of view CAN’T be true because if it were true, it would be popular since truth is popular`` Thats just appeal to popularity. They lose the argument when they say this
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:52 AM
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Since men are sexually attracted to almost every woman the only reason you would be struggiling to find one is because you have a shitty personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:50 AM
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Okay?With this in mind maybe women should apply the personality advice to themselves
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:04 AM
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Hitchens razor :)
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:03 AM
2

I know. I meant his first paragraph is how bluepillers sound to me
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:03 AM
2

It isnt. Cite one and prove why its unrealistic
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:43 AM
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Not evidence.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:09 AM
3

Isnt beauty subjective. Why are yall getting surprised?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:04 AM
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Men dont claim they dont care about looks and only about personality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:03 AM
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Thats how yall sound when you speak. I hang around women and its precisely why i know personality<<<<<<<<looks
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:57 PM
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Proof?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:57 PM
2

No. Buit bluepillers constantly rag on about their maginificent personality but are usually just as bad if not worse when it comes to arguing like a proper adult
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 07:38 PM
1

Thats not what i was claiming nor did i ever do that
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 07:37 PM
1

Well one side is acting morally just.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 03:50 PM
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Not nearly to the same extent. I can argue with bp much better than blue pillers. Less ad hominems and they actually read what i type
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:23 PM
6

I mean you didnt dissprove anything...?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:38 PM
5

Im not gonna play lotto
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:34 PM
6

If its like lotto for me do you agree that personality is not even close to looks in relevancy?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 09:32 PM
1

Most dudes here havent had dates. I am one of the few who did and they all went terribly.-
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:29 PM
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Yep. After approaching more than 100 that gave me the slightest of signals because my friends and people on reddit told me to do so i actually looked objectively at how many are interested like they are in my chad friends. Turns out-0. None put in 10% the effort that they did with them So why should i approach?Just to get rejected?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:23 PM
2

Yeah im saying the thing men complain about isnt just fictional. Its halo horn effect which is a daily occurence
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:51 PM
2

You as in those women on relationshipadvice. Its a simple thing to do
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:18 PM
2

Doesnt apply to just fiction. That behavior is consistent irl
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:09 PM
2

Then just dont...date that kind of a guy?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:09 PM
2

The one people most complained was Wolverine cause he was miss casted.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:07 PM
1

You dont need to be a 10/10 but she has to find you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:03 PM
3

Yessir. I have 6 that fit the criteria and they are all from like the age of 6/7. So you can imagine how much i got to see it since we hit puberty
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 12:59 PM
2

Same goes for their advice. You need to be a goody two shoes who NEVER thinks of getting into a relationship when you volunteer, meet up at hobby groups,bars,clubs etc while every fkcing man that exists rthat wants to date...does think of that
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 12:58 PM
5

Yes
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:34 PM
3

Yes
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:22 PM
2

Find better stuff to do with your life
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:31 PM
2

Is that true?
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:03 AM
2

I wouldnt be in a relationship then. Relationship means to commit
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:01 AM
1

Ive heard this a gazilion of times
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 09:47 AM
1

So its okay to offend as long as its not a woman? And yes there are
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 09:46 AM
1

There was still no reason to call anyone who doesnt want to date you an idiot LMAO And you are hostile for no reason all the time
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 12:49 AM
1

In a non arrogant way?
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 09:51 PM
9

There is a day in life of an inkwell and they picked an extremely handsome guy who plays video games for that documentary Its a joke
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 07:04 PM
1

You are such a joke
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:46 PM
4

Looks always have and always will neg personality no diff.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:39 PM
5

Bro is a fraud
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:03 PM
6

None of them want me lmao
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 10:42 PM
2

He also insults you on the way without reading what you write but he has a great personality because he apologizes later ig
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:24 PM
1

Liar?I didnt lie once here
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 08:21 PM
1

Because i believe looks>personality for dating(Which is true) And love how you ignored the rest. Another fucking time you insult me without properly reading. What a wonderful personality
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:56 PM
1

``No I read it`` You clearly havent. I never once stated in that comment that you cant have fun conversations if you are ugly Now rob with your 50 years of experience read my comment again ``? Decide if you're ugly to someone else. You just don't get to. They decide if you're hot. So I ignored the part of your sentence where you didn't have the right to speculate.`` Dont have to speculate when my life tells me that ``You could tell me you actually have relaxed, and easy conversations with women …
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:47 PM
1

Re-read my comment again. Slowly
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:29 PM
1

If someone tells me smt like 4th i would think im being pranked tbh
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:23 PM
1

You dont just have good vibes and ask out and actually expect results if you are ugly
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:23 PM
3

Agreed. Being trad or liberal doesnt mean much. They can both be bad people I dont want a trad woman anyway
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:18 PM
5

`` " women never approach women cause it make them look needy `` Biggest bs ive heard. They approach tall attractive men. They dont approach other cause they arent attracted ``" women just need time to like men and it's all about personality " `` Then they wouldnt be opposed to friends to lovers and advice wouldnt be make a move in a picosecond that you meet her bro! ``women love is harder `` For top tier men
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 08:47 PM
6

Debunked by who?
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:52 AM
9

You dont need to.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:14 AM
3

People with mental health issues do as well.your point?
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:14 AM
2

It helped me confirm that looks>personality
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 08:59 AM
2

I live in eastern europe and trust me its impressive that he did get laid(albeit he probably isnt ugly)
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:24 PM
1

Yep. Been told by couple that they would date me if i was more attractive or taller. Now i havent crushed on most of my friends but it still hurts to hear.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:22 PM
1

``I was kind of messing with you. The idea being fuck the specific results and start putting yourself out there and new ways to gain different reference experiences…`` Yes i do go out ``Homie…last time you got your duck sucked….you where thinking about your face and how it looks….not to the weirdest thing I’ve heard try to enjoy the blow job.`` Im confused by this sentence? ``My fault, I’ve been yelling go out and touch grass so long I forgot the next step…. Approach women and get laid!`` I did …
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:37 PM
1

Ik but i doubt your dicksize would growx2 after college
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:33 PM
6

Too ugly and short for that
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:20 AM
0

Just because someone dissmisses what you say doesnt make them a loser. People can dissagree without them being losers
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:19 AM
1

Thats not a debunk you think it is
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:19 AM
9

Nope. My only standard is for her to love me and put in effort. She doesnt have to be neither perfect nor ``obedient``
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:17 AM
5

Anyone who says anything opposing to your bubble is lying
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:11 AM
4

That sounds like a mental issue
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:08 AM
1

Huh?Even i have been complimented on clothes tf are you on
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:07 AM
1

This is one of the best.Every one of them who says they dont ever give gifts for their bf,sometimes pay on dates,dont post them on ig and dont put in effort because its a mans job is just an indication that they arent attracted to him
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 03:25 PM
-3

Middle/high school information probs. A lot of boys back then would brag about it
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:46 AM
4

Yes. Just not very likely(esp if you add shortness)
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:45 AM
2

Welp thats why they will get banned sooner or later
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:42 PM
3

Most say its the most important and some say its the only thing that matters
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:37 PM
2

I would rather be single than in a DB
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:34 PM
3

Again bp doesnt say its the only thing that matters either
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:28 PM
2

The numbers dont actually skew back up until older age
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 08:11 PM
3

Autisim is a giga massive handicap.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:14 AM
1

Hasty generelisation fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:14 AM
6

The men die earlier thing is irrelevant since the numbers only skew back in old age And SOME men date way younger
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:07 AM
3

I mean when we give studies apperntly they are also wrong because muh myisogony or biased studies!
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 10:52 PM
12

Yikes lets unpack this This so much this!
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 10:51 PM
4

Can you prove it isnt?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:58 PM
17

Sorry boo but bottom 80% of men are get far less attraction than 80% of women
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:44 PM
1

Yep. Looks are so much more important its not even funny
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:27 PM
2

Cool?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 PM
1

Reminder you need to put in massive effort for 20 years just to get a woman thats not really all that interested in you but your hot friends are getting laid and in relationships ever since their teens without even having to do much But im supposed to believe personality is more relevant or even comes close to relevance to looks jfc
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 PM
1

sk any woman and they all say they found a guy attractive AFTER they got to know him. Attraction isn’t a lighting strike for many Doesnt always happen nor is it ever a case when the guy is tall and attractive
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:03 PM
0

That happens to me when im sad
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 09:33 PM
1

``“ I have given up this year. This was an exception” You sure?`` Yes i have given up on pursuing. That doesnt mean i dont or didnt have fun lol ``Ummm “Time to drink myself to death this weekend boys!” Dis U? Remember that cheesy, advice about having fun. I WAS COMPLETELY PISSED WHEN I HAD THAT “epiphany”. When it sinks in, *like REALLY SINKS IN you will be too. 🙃`` So anyone who has fun has never felt bad in their life(And no i didnt drink myself to death it was a figure of speech) ``Sounds le…
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 09:00 PM
1

You arent feeling happy right now but that doesnt mean you dont want to be happy lol
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:29 PM
1

Try not to focus on it and invest that anger into something productive. Ie when i feel furious thats when i do the best work out for example
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:02 PM
18

Speaking from experience-you grow numb from it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:30 PM
1

It unfortunately did happen quite a bit in the past generation.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:29 PM
1

Im refering to a guy who has no attention untill older age where people settle for a lot less and the woman isnt attracted to him but likes him as a person
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:20 PM
1

I want someone to be actually physically attracted to me and put in the same amount of effort
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:12 PM
1

I am against it but i dont consider you awful
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:42 PM
1

What does this comment have to do with the thread?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:18 PM
1

Confidence,humor,personality,respectfulness,social skills
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:16 PM
2

About what?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:05 PM
1

Yep. Never in my life have i seen an ugly short guy getting hit on or the girls putting effort in.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:05 PM
1

``Maybe be a bit familiar to you. At least that how I felt for a good stretch of my career. Honestly, what helped me develop my break through was…we’ll cheesy advice from a cheese guy.`` Not really since i dont consider myself better than the average guy outside of personality. ``Have fun…when you go out. Let go of any results and have fun`` I always do that. ``When you go you, don’t try to pick up any women but to have genuine and fun interaction with anybody you meet. You have to game anybody …
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:02 PM
2

I dont have social anxiety. I have approached plenty and been rejected by every single one except when they didnt know my face prior. So now ive given up. If a woman doesnt approach me oh well
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 08:22 PM
3

Even if most dont, there are still plenty who do want
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 08:06 PM
1

Love both but cats on top
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 08:02 PM
1

Okay but why the f is she mentioning that then?She always victimizes herself
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:58 PM
1

I wasnt blaming anyone for that what
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:45 PM
2

Gus says what's basically true. When you act according to your own values, you're an adult. Which for Gus means behaving kindly, empathetically, and ethically. And you admit when you're wrong. It might be the best answer to this question ever put in film is what I'm saying. Yet a bunch of people who dont act like that get into relationships
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:43 PM
3

Yes if she is studying And there is a difference between being broke,not having a job and rich
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:03 PM
2

Yep. God forbid i find a person im interested in that puts half the effort i do
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:02 PM
2

False assumptions and yes women approach attractive men
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:00 PM
5

We cant get relationships either so yeah
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:59 PM
1

I really dont understand how you can type this kind of comments unprovoked and not think you are a giant asshole
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:58 PM
5

On dating apps?Yes it is
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:57 PM
6

Yes. Got rejected by plenty of them
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:54 PM
2

I have empathy but not for them who dont approach,dont go out and never work on themselves(AND STILL have more options while claiming lonely men are the ones at fault jfl)
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:54 PM
3

I didnt said its guranteed. Im just saying they are more important
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:37 PM
11

Can doesnt mean likely.
/r/BlackPillScience10/10/23 03:30 PM
9

Yeah and you can do all of the personality stuff great and not have anyone interested Better for him to at least know looks are important
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:29 PM
12

Hold on he is doing everything right but him being unnattractive means he is getting 0 Explain to me again how personality>looks in importance
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:24 PM
1

I asked about looks not height. You didnt mention him being ugly.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:07 PM
1

I asked regardless of how he looks. Why did you mention height?
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:03 PM
1

Again not answering the question. Would you date any funny guy regardless of hohw he looks?
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:49 PM
1

Sure if you want to play semenatics. if you are short and ugly its irrelevant yes.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:37 PM
1

``So I'm cognisant of my capacity to be wrong and have long accepted that I'll be wrong again - which is good because then I can stop being wrong and start being more right. I don't fear being wrong like every single person who posts here.`` Damn you have been doing that for so long yet manage to confidently be wrong and an asshole on the way?Crazy `` I'd accuse you of having a fetish for being humiliated in public but that would require a basic level of introspection that I suspect won't be occ…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:36 PM
1

Yes. When you are ugly and short. Thats when it becomes pretty irrelevant
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:35 PM
1

Yes. Point me one comment which said personality has 0% influence.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:32 PM
1

None ever said that
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:24 PM
1

Yeah ig calling out your giga retarded takes is defending pathetic stuff. Dw its never you who is wrong
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:18 PM
1

Again you claiming you dont do that doesnt prove your statement right.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:19 PM
1

Half of these arent excuses just dumb sayings
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:17 PM
1

Im saying any funny guy regardless of anything else.Not whether or not your current guy is ufnny
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:15 PM
1

i just reply when i see your comments in the thread
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 01:14 PM
1

Yes. I was a cute kid
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:50 PM
2

More GPT nearly dying saying your hypothetical is so fucking insipid and stupid lol: GPT is the one who is making a dumb argument because he never once said its the sole factor. Just as how your brain didnt see that `And here is poor GPT patiently explaining to a particularly stupid child that emotionally intelligent people exist for whom the halo effect does not play a part in their assessments of people: Just because you are emotionally inteligent doesnt mean halo effect doesnt affect you.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:43 PM
5

What a pathetic life
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:22 PM
2

This
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:20 PM
0

So are you dating any funny guy?
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:19 PM
0

Criclejerk more
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:18 PM
1

People have told me that. Not me
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:17 PM
1

damn
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:26 PM
1

Around my level of looks,basic hyigene,long hair, on the fatter side, horny for me,shares similar hobbies and or interests,isnt abusive.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:05 PM
1

Confidence
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:03 PM
2

I want a girl thats horny for me. Thats probably an insane standard given my success rate so far lmao
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:02 PM
1

Damn thats crazy. I think a bigger problem for you is that you listen to people on purpose despite dissagreeing with them and blaming your lives shortcomings on that
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 11:04 PM
1

Its short for demisexuals
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 10:42 PM
1

``Dude come on, she talked to you first, she still talked to you after her friend left. She was totally into you, she just let her friend have her shot because she the shy type.`` I would say her friend was more shy and the only thing we talked about after was her saying she wanted ME girl and me to hook up ``Side note: THE YEAR IS ALMOST OVER GET ANOTHER APPROACH IN! LIKE NO THOUGHT JUST GO`` I have given up this year. This was an exception ``Dude, you go out, in school and hit the gym. You’re …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 07:21 PM
12

They cant resist asking me out when they see me drinking water with confidence
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 02:58 PM
2

Why wouldnt the personality and confidence arguments apply to him?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:06 AM
3

Do you know how little autistic men get married?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:05 AM
3

I have women who are great to me. But not one has been attracted
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:04 AM
1

Something something hasty generlization fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:04 AM
1

This is where it began to faulter a bit. Nothing wrong with going after the ME girl. However, her friend was showing massive interest and was trying to get your attention. In these cases you have to be aware who’s giving the most interest and go with them. Assuming attraction is mutual and you want a clean and easy set. As you can see i typed later she wasnt interested in me but hooking us up ``Too late, ALL WAYS GO FOR THE PHONE NUMBER. I understand social media closes and ext however. Randos, …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:01 AM
1

Demis are <1%
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 08:56 AM
1

Hopefully not
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 11:47 PM
1

Like i already said i wont. I was just tempted cause she was ugly+played my favorite game
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 05:58 PM
1

Going to therapy for certain things isnt bad but yes you shouldnt take anti depressants
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 11:05 AM
1

Nope
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:32 AM
1

Yes i do. Again no woman is getting wet over a short ugly guy applying game
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:00 AM
4

Its right. None is dating you if you dont pass the looks treshold.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:56 AM
3

It means that looks>personality.Not that everything is hopeless
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:25 AM
3

I get the same treatment even amnogst 25 year old+
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:25 AM
5

Yes blaming genes is valid
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:25 AM
1

I do go outside. Again as i said irrelevant.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:23 AM
2

Who says we dont? Also i thought beauty was subjective and that leagues dont exist?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:21 AM
1

Huh?
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:21 AM
1

Better than most men in relationships yes
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:33 PM
1

Thats not what that means at all
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:28 PM
5

As long as he is confident I know a guy who looks exactly like him and is in fact 4`` 11 in Scandinavia and me and other women just cant keep our hands off him!
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:21 PM
1

Yes. I shower and can bench 100kg and touch grass
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:15 PM
2

Yeah the problem is thats not what you originally said
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:15 PM
1

Not if u use the condom and that wasnt what you said by linking that study
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:40 PM
2

Ill answer you after you answer me.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:40 PM
1

Women arent forced to use BC
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:00 PM
2

No dont be sarcastic. You said its the same thing So do you concede that men wanting their partners to be sexual attracted to them is unreasonable standard?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:58 PM
2

I mean why would her sexual attraction be lesser?Because im less attractive?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:21 PM
1

They can still not use BC even if men dont want to use the condom?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:20 PM
4

Bro is mad
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:59 PM
1

I would adore my gf too. But i expect the same adoration back
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:49 PM
1

I mean thats what her friend said and girls like that dont get hit on a lot in my country(at least not by attractive men)
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:48 PM
1

Nothing. I havent approached at all this year but i was tempted to since i dont know any girl besides my sister who plays mass effect irl
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:47 PM
1

All of the others do. Its the same crap. You can be as great,funny,confident as possible and share the same interest and not have any interested. Or you can be the opposite but you have a chance if you are attractive
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:47 PM
4

I dont care if ROBYoutube thinks its a lie. Heck half the shit you spew is not just only a blatant lie but a contradiction a lot of the times
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 10:19 AM
1

Nope. Most is from my own life experience
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:40 AM
1

1)Thats not short 2)Yes i would date them
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:40 AM
2

I would date most women. You have a warped perception
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:38 AM
6

1)Because this has happened numerous times. Ive had plenty of great interactions,flirting and even female friends who told me they would date me if i was more attractive and or taller 2)I dont think her bestie would try to do that since she did mention lack of options for her and the fact that she didnt reply with im not looking to date On that note it has happened to me over 20 times where a girl says that then i see her dating 10 days later
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:34 AM
2

1)I never said any good talk should lead to a date 2)I dont have any female attention-doesnt mean i dont have a type
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:15 AM
3

My entire social circle tells me im ugly. But according to redditors here i must be lying
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:05 AM
2

Just world fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:04 AM
7

How
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:02 AM
7

None is saying they should. But this dumb take that if a man is single he only wants the prettiest women is retarded
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:02 AM
2

Thats only if you put the same effort back. I wont put any princess treatment in if im not being respected,loved,commited and lusted after
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:01 AM
9

This goes for both genders. Attractive men get massively better treatment and options
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 08:00 AM
5

You think having a woman feel sexual desire for you is a high standard?LMAOAOAOAOOA
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:58 AM
3

Thats different from what anyintroduction is saying
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:57 AM
1

I dont see whats special about her?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:53 AM
1

Men still cant do it if women dont want to like what
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:52 AM
1

It isnt. And even if it wasnt it doesnt stop you from answering it
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:48 AM
1

Its not stupid but i can see why you would dodge it
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 11:41 PM
1

Answer me
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 10:14 PM
1

Why not give a general tip like you have to move your legs?
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:14 PM
2

Because we totally dont shower rigghttt
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:16 PM
5

1)Then just say it like that 2)Yes there isnt a partner for every man unfortunately 3)Confidence is so goddamn irrelevant its not even funny
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:14 PM
3

“Just take a shower” is for people who genuinely stink, but can be broadened to “fix your grooming” The fact that we are told this implies normies think if you arent getting dates it must be one of the reasons
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 08:13 PM
1

Over for us was not refering to you
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:55 AM
2

Puts effort in
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:55 AM
6

Men who are conventionally attractive also have by far the most options and better sex lives
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:55 AM
1

Yes this applies to vast majority of people however men that women find handsome on first sight are unfortunately never going to be us
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:54 AM
0

Same thing
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:53 AM
2

Contrary to popular belief a lot of men who cant get laid shower regularly and work out
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:52 AM
0

Loves me Horny for me
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 09:51 AM
3

Thats cool. It doesnt make those men in question ugly
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:18 PM
2

So again not an ugly guy.Okay
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
2

You are the one who cant even make proper arguments lmao
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
1

``hat does imply that HE is not conventionally attractive, thus could be argued that most likely the guy is below average.`` No it doesn what
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:08 PM
2

So he wasnt ugly?Gotcha
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:07 PM
1

Not really. 5`7 is perfectly fine if you are model tier
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 09:13 AM
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No proof and ad hominems?Thought as much.
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:46 PM
5

Googled it.What about it?
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:42 PM
5

Prove that
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/23 09:42 PM
1

Sure but im saying women acting like this is a gender issue is nonsense
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 09:28 PM
1

If anything men are the ones who do most of it. A woman crying and complaining 24/7 is perfectly fine and its expected of the man to take care of her
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 09:01 PM
1

None said you need to a be a 10/10
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:16 AM
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Yes. If she is attractive to me it doesnt matter if she is on the ugly side or a 9/10 Hell im putting a lot more effort into average women than 9/10s.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:12 AM
1

Do you have the study?
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 10:08 AM
2

Yeah those same women complain about how none wants them xD
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 10:55 PM
3

I mean yeah suddenly all girls turned into nerds and gamers when Henry was building the pc
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 10:52 PM
3

Fr if i had a gf i would never give any sexual attention to other girls. I would be hers and hers only
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 08:43 PM
3

I talk to plenty of women. They either dont care or just want to be friends
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:50 PM
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`` The ladies here even tell you many times to "go out and touch grass"`` Because they have this belief that if you arent pullling girls every light with your divine confidence that just means you arent going out whatsoever. I dont need to explain how dumb this conclusion is ``Girls like to see that a guy has friends. Many consider it a red flag if you don't. They also are impressed when you take them to a bar and you're friends with the bartender and know some people there.`` Never helped once …
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:47 PM
1

In a few hours
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:20 PM
1

They are all a bunch of larps and ill make a post as to why
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 04:11 PM
2

The thing is often people who say i know a guy who is 5`3 and xyz ALWAYS follow it up with therefore looks dont matter! Its clear that they are saying it with an agenda and not because they know it
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 09:29 PM
1

What even is the point of this post?
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 04:40 PM
0

Its not projection. Its truth
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 10:12 PM
1

Again it doesnt say UGLY MEN ONLY WANT STACY XD Even though 5x more go to attractive women there is still more than enough for average women Women did the same thing but on a lesser scale but thats because they rated 80% as unnattractive and thus are self aware that they cant all go for top 20% or less. Most men message first on dating sites outside of bumble anyway. If men only wanted stacey and poor women are just getting rejected by guys 24/7 80% of women would be virgins or isngle
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:45 PM
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1)It didnt say only but that more messages were sent. And that still doesnt mean ugly want only stacy 2)Reason it didnt work in reverse is because women already rated almost all men as unnattractive. Thats why their numbers dont seem as shallow.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:31 PM
1

Now do your best and prove that applies to every ugly guy
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:17 PM
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Shockingly none here had a preference for 5`2 men
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:02 PM
1

Cope from you
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:00 PM
1

Huuuh?If he started doing that since he was a teen its completely normal he wouldnt pay the bills for at least another few years You know what’s one of the biggest turn off in men? Lack of responsibility, claiming their successful working hard all the whole mummy and daddy and paying your bills, washing your socks and putting food in front of you every nigh Bs here is just headcanon that you made
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:58 PM
1

Its terrible either way. Cezanne was just looking for a low blow
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 12:57 PM
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Dont care didnt ask
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 05:26 PM
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I do all of that. Doesnt mean jack shit
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 01:44 PM
2

`Ah, so betabux isn't a thing, nor does it originate from bitterness that other guys were first and had sex. Right? Also, it's interesting that I've seen guys describe a betabux as anyone that isn't getting as much sex as he desires.`` ​ We already talked about this. There is a difference between not being her exact same identical perfect ideal man and her being meh about you and settiling down
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 01:43 PM
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Last
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 08:24 PM
2

Yeah i know. I just said they are struggiling.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 08:24 PM
1

It isnt
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 07:57 PM
2

How many young men are single/virgins etc
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 07:00 PM
1

Again problems i talked about are present there ​ `As a vivid example, the researchers describe a male team member who was perceived as the slacker of the team and the main focus of negative gossip. It turns out that he was uniformly rated physically ugly by the other members of the team. In contrast was another member of the team, who worked so hard that there were discussions of him as a possible contender for the U.S. Olympic team. This guy was rated by everyone on the team as physically attr…
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 04:15 PM
2

Based on numerous statistics
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 04:11 PM
2

He didnt take it as a personal attack
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:47 PM
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Men apperantly have insane egos for wanting their partners to actually be attracted and compliment them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:46 PM
1

According to studies its <1%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:29 PM
2

Most are actually struggiling in genz
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:27 PM
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Yeah and the problem is that how can they determine that if we assume attractive people are great in the first place?-
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:26 PM
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One study?There are multiple for halo effect
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:25 PM
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Huuuh?I would feel bad for that person not want to exploit them.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:23 PM
1

Would happily date
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 10:14 PM
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1)Its a lot more competitive then you are making it out to be 2)I dont want to be a betabuxx
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:54 PM
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They arent stacies but yes i do find them attractive and to be above my level
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:29 PM
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Never got approached once in my life so nah Also mid is average and i would be more than happy with an average person
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:20 PM
1

Never happened
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:20 PM
1

You debunked yourself by him being average looking and tall
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:08 PM
1

Who knows. But he is neither ugly nor short
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:07 PM
1

Because that study is irrelevant to bp?
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:05 PM
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Sure but a lot of men who are single would tell you that they want their first time(or sex in general) to be with a loved one. Its clearly not just muh ego
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:54 PM
1

There are still massive amount of men who like flat chest
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:51 PM
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Easily 5/10. I would much rather have an average or below average gf than a model
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 08:46 PM
1

Yes
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:11 PM
2

But but social construct!Subjective!!!
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:53 PM
3

Looks neg personality so badly
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:52 PM
1

You will
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:48 PM
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She could just watch homemade?
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 01:59 PM
1

Not what you said.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 06:05 PM
1

I dont think its impossible for me since there are exception just not likely
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:15 PM
1

Yeah and in the comments below you said you are very attractive facially.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:13 PM
1

Yeah and i know its wrong because i actually go out.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:34 PM
1

``Keep looking. Trust yourself more. Socialise more.`` Did all of that for years. ``Bro wants to get a girl with studies lol.`` What are you talking about? `Yet to see one proving any of your points. Seen many directly debunking them. But irrelevant, this is not a number's game. 1 `` You havent proven anything actually. I can prove to you why attractivness isnt completely subjective and that there are general trends you can follow
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:21 PM
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It isnt. There are multiple studies and anecdotal examples that it isnt. `` There is no shortage of handsome men. There is a shortage of interesting and well adjusted men who take care of themselves. 1 `` I would have found someone by now
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:09 PM
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None gets anyone by just being nice sorry
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:02 PM
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``Like, attractive is subjective,`` Not to the degree you think ``ow i treat people is i feel one of the most important thing in how i'm treated`` I treat them well-doesnt mean they want to fuck `` but some girl friends helped me out. Some work here and there can absolutely make you look good.`` They helped me too im still ugly ``Also, like, girls have very wild and different preferences`` They really dont ``Don't give 2 shits about your chin and like a long and wild hair? Don't care how tall yo…
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:02 PM
1

Both are irrelevant if you arent attractive to them
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:57 PM
1

I dont send pics of myself
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:44 PM
1

?
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:41 PM
1

``The funny thing is…I’m really not.`` You are. You are basically assuming anyone who is single just hasnt touched grass. ``Your numbers are quite in your favor.`` They arent and i explained why ``Since Ama-Rica is the center of the world I’ll use those numbers.`` Im not from NA There’s roughly 1 million single woman per state averaged. Of course Florida would have more than Montana but we’re talking even spreads. Assuming you live in a medium size city you’d probably have a tens of thousands of…
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:56 PM
1

Was sick and had a lot to do for college
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:46 PM
1

Yeah like i said all of them are great. Im still ugly and dont look like him
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:44 PM
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I do all of that and i dont
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:19 PM
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Oh my god why are you playing dumb 1 million(and im being generous here) that fit the criteria that i just said are SPREAD OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD. They wouldnt just be in my country or towns outside that i visit for example.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:05 PM
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Terrible
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 12:03 PM
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Its very well possible. Lets say a million women find me attractive(and lets say all of them are my around age range and whom i would find attractive as well The world is such a vast place that i can easily not meet them.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 11:30 AM
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Its very possible when most people dont find you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:53 AM
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This wasnt intended to mock but to show the warped perception people have of short men
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:23 PM
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Same with Nadal
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 05:13 PM
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How they are so nice and women don’t appreciate them? Well it’s just cope. They treat women like shit. Doesnt go for every one. Some are terrible people some are great people. There is no rule no they don’t. I know so many beautiful women, like Instagram model status, that just deal with men who try to use them for sex. handsome men also have some tough shit in their life. Doesnt mean they dont get treated better than ugly men.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 05:12 PM
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None said that
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 12:12 PM
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Thought women hate best friends curshing on them
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 12:05 PM
2

Again you cant debunk anything and go for personal attacks. Muh you didnt try!!!!! Baseless assumptions
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:19 AM
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1)I dont care what you think,unless you can prove it dont state it as facts `` They just have this dumb idea that you have to look incredible to be attractive to someone, when in fact decent is more than enough, that is if you have a good personality.`` Yeah decent looking is unfortunately not what applies to me `` These ideas are damaging to normal looking guys telling themselves they're not good enough and it's over for them`` We litterally gatekeep guys who arent short and ugly what? ``off no…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:11 AM
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You are 6`2 and decent looking mate. Stop playing dumb
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 11:04 AM
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A few women through out the whole world whom men with those characteristics wont meet. For fucks sake this proves looks neg personality into oblivion
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:35 AM
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Which i dont dissagree with But anxious non talkative autistic 3/10 men are are not lusted over by vast vast majority of women
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:29 AM
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It doesnt have to be hook ups This applies for LTR as well you are just ugly if you think they dont feel sexual attraction lmao
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:25 AM
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And I was mostly attracted to him physically There it is
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:24 AM
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How did you like him if he barely spoke? Where is the good old confidence and funny requirement that seemingly majority of women have?
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:09 AM
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I dont know to quantify americans lbs so i took his word
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:07 AM
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She could also be having mental/physical issues based on this post. Also he say he is little overweight not obese LOL
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:03 AM
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``I borderline wish it was rare. It honestly isn’t. I’ve seen women swoon, genuinely swoon, over some extremely ugly guys (with dogshit personalities to boot).`` These women usually have mental issues. Not really a high % of a population(or ones that people want to date) and they usually get exploited unfortunately. ``The heart wants what it wants, and it’s just not at all uncommon for women to actually be sexually attracted to conventionally unattractive men.`` it is.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:01 AM
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Yeah the right person will actually be attracted to you and wont require you to play jester to win them over with le personality.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:58 AM
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This is one of the biggest double standards
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:58 AM
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Plenty of fish in the sea is so bad because you dont even meet like 0.5% of the population in your life so whats the point of saying 3.5b
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:57 AM
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1)None will treat you better based on their relationship status alone. You just have a higher chance of ending up with someone at your own level 2)They do.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:56 AM
2

A bad personality can also not impact it too much
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:47 AM
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Why do guys not want to believe it? Because it hasn’t happened to you or others who are in the same threads circle jerking each other? Keyword average. And even then that relationship is dependant on the guy putting in more effort.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:45 AM
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Sorry there is no excuse for not ``recognizing`` someone not showering AND MARRYING THEM
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 10:29 PM
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It unfortunately isnt
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:34 PM
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Yeah but there are 2 other studies as well which show that men are more accepting of women taller than them And i recently found one where 5`10 women have a much better shot than 5`5 men.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 09:33 PM
2

``inteligent``
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 11:39 AM
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Not in the way a lot of people here do
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:23 AM
1

I mean i never said that but go ahead
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:12 AM
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Yeah im saying in the case(thats the one you claimed is true) dude is both ugly and has a bad personality its her settiling.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:02 AM
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We all litterally say how we dont want to be settled for. Dont play dumb
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:25 AM
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That would just mean she picked a guy who has both bad personality and ugly(and i think you of all people would agree thats not common). Those kind of relationships arent even real relationships tbh.Its desperation and choosing whoever is avaivable
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:03 AM
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It’s unlikely that a woman will be romantic on the first date but that doesn’t mean she hates you or will never show you affection, it just means she doesn’t show it immediately. Women don’t pine over men in an active sense but they may have interest in him so I don’t think that’s a good measure of interest. They do over mind they find attractive ``When men approach women that’s never a concern because a woman won’t say yes if she doesn’t mean it.`` Betabuxx wouldnt exist were that the case
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:35 AM
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Why would you be best friends with someone who is immature?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:32 AM
2

4/10 5`6 in a really tall country poor
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:27 AM
1

So you admit thats just delusion?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:26 AM
1

I know you got mad at other guys in the sub but i assure you im not blaming anyone
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 07:00 PM
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I mean either way i am not blaming anyone soo
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 06:55 PM
1

Yeah sorry it doesnt happen on mass and the answer is just happens for all those men not to be their type
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 05:00 PM
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Yep. Otherwise the guy bestfriend they have wouldnt be a guy bestfriend in the first place. If women loved personality so much the guy bestfriend has the best personality but he was never an option
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 02:43 PM
1

Maybe just maybe sexuality isnt a choice?
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:51 PM
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I have no issues with my body and and can acknowledge another man being attractive/having a good phyisique. Doesnt mean i want to fuck him lol
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:50 PM
1

Because far more women are bi than men?
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 05:47 PM
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Average girls are not ignored
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 02:16 PM
0

Its not just top 5 And most men dont cold approach
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 12:22 AM
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?I know a lot of guys irl who claim the looks>personality even though they are succesful ``For them, the right one just hasn’t come along yet. Or they haven’t tried hard enough yet, despite bending over backwards.`` Thats delusion
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 12:21 AM
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`` women are seen as romantic but all romantic gestures are made by men for women .`` This is the biggest mystery to me. Women read more romantic novels so i guess that makes the more romantic...?
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 09:29 PM
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``or more people approach them in case they're a woman`` Which is why i said or are women I also approach way more and have no troubles with my social skills. Its simply that none wants a short ugly gUy in their youth
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 09:19 PM
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The point is way trashier people than me can get into relationships both morally and personality wise. The thing they have in common is that they are more attractive(or are women)
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:10 PM
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?
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:10 PM
2

Whats autistic is giving bad advice and blaming it on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:20 PM
2

Yeah because that self was already good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:19 PM
2

You know this isnt a good argument right
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 06:09 PM
2

I do that. Completely irrelevant to my dating situation
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 06:08 PM
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Personality is ONLY relevant if you pass the looks treshold
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 05:29 PM
0

Not really disproven by studies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:02 PM
1

Lmfao this seems like chat gpt wrote it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:29 PM
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Thats a made up just world fallacy reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:21 PM
0

Ah yes they are just waiting lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:18 PM
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Didnt see it=/= doesnt happen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:17 PM
1

Thats still not an excuse to be obese LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:17 PM
0

When?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:16 PM
1

Ofc they don’t, women are far less shallow when it comes to looks than men Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:16 PM
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This really isnt true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:02 PM
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Oh boy its 99/1 jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:46 PM
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I mean i am scrolling through the comments and so far i havent seen anyone who is ugly and some are attractive
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:36 PM
2

He actually doesnt look too bad in his youth.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:36 PM
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Just world fallacy
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:28 AM
2

``JFL, just stop.`` Hisoka was a creep though its concerning how many fangirls he has
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:26 AM
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You have like 6 other subs for that
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 06:14 PM
1

Countless times. If i was better looking or taller i would have gotten with a lot of them. Oh well..
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:30 PM
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How does not posting your pics in the thread prove that huh?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:32 PM
2

Yeah the thing is women on reddit often claim Oh i know a guy who is a 2 to me but he is a 9 to my friend!
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:19 PM
1

You dont see it=/= doesnt happen
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:05 PM
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1) I and most single men i know would gladly date her 2)Isnt beauty subjective?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:07 PM
0

Convenient?Its convenient that he didnt accuse anyone?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:04 PM
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1)Again still a small % 2)I dont get what your gotcha is?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:45 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:12 PM
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Never.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:08 PM
2

``And you're now dissatisfied with someone's (or various individuals) expressed honesty because you believe it still sets YOU outside of the dating sphere.`` Its fine if they are honest but giving advice like this serves no purpose
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:07 PM
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Sorry bro(i am the guy that talked to you) it absoloutely has nothing to do with the way i talk or dress. These comments came from people i either DIDNT KNOW or were my good friends. The reason it looks good on you is because you already look good. And no i wasnt nor am insecure about my scar. Other people made comments about it not me.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:04 PM
1

What you said still doesnt prove vibes matter more
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:03 PM
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``Most men only want a woman who is young (18-25) and thin and conventionally attractive.`` Proof?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:01 PM
4

They matter far less
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:01 PM
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That doesnt really prove anything though. Nor do guys in the sub represent even 0.1% of men
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:00 PM
1

`` Could it be the constant slut shaming that women face? `` It really isnt otherwise they would masturbate more often or want sex just as much as their long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:59 PM
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I’ve always hated that the female body is emphasized in many more ways and much more often than the male, not because it’s wrong but because that prompts more sexual desire for women than men. Huh?Back arms face shoulders abs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:58 PM
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Terrible take
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:46 PM
0

What are you yapping about?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 03:00 PM
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This is a dumb take
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:56 PM
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Or maybe he didint accuse anyone nor does his opinion apply to everybody else
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:18 PM
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Thats why i said what i said about him
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:36 PM
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Read his comment/history.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 02:28 AM
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Its when looks dont matter bs fails so they resort to this.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 01:05 AM
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They dont
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 01:01 AM
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That still doesnt prove personality>looks. Just that one was ``overestimated`` while the other was ``underestimated``
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:18 AM
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``apparently not to women according to this study.`` I dont see where its stated its not. It just says kindness and loyalty was underestimated.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:00 AM
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``Never said they have lower standards for physical attraction, just that looks alone are not what makes women want to have sex.`` I dont think anyone ever said that. Its just that its the most important factor ``I don't see an agenda,`` Instead of saying lets see how valuable each trait is! they are just like inkwell propaganda,debunking inkwells etc. They said that legit every other sentence
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:39 PM
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So one of the problems i have is that they clearly do have an agenda and i am a bit hesitant to really trust them(especially with other studies that i provided that contradict this) Second is that this really doesnt prove women having low standards or lower than men for physical attractiveness.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:24 PM
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Crazy thats what people do with the i know a guy anecote
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:53 PM
2

lazy days in Pjs while you watch some random movies cuddiling>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:04 PM
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Puts equal effort,shares hobbies and interests,opens up to me about any of her problems,shares the same humor and is horny asf for me.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 09:03 PM
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You are the last person who should call someone a lost cause
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:55 PM
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I mean studies prove that bullies are more succesful. That doesnt mean you will succeed with everyone And yes there is evidence for that which is why we are contesting it.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 02:54 PM
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Thats not about looks thats about lack of attention
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:40 AM
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Yeah except there is the horn effect where we already have a massive prejudice for ugly people. The ugly person in question then has to ``prove`` themselves just to be okay to us
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:39 AM
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I mean it isnt. Studies show there isnt much of a gap
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:50 AM
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Yes they do often. Again none was interested
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:57 PM
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1)If men were only interested in women above their physical level we would have far more women single than men given that men initiate on average a lot more. Thus the virginity/single rate would be flipped 2)We know women care about looks just as much as men therefore it wouldnt make sense anyway 3)Men have lesser standards and are more desperate. This is also why a lot less women are virgins/single 4)This isnt based on science but from my experience as a FA we are often told that women can smel…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:46 PM
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This is blatantly false
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:36 PM
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``Just talk to women bro' means to just interact with them like normal people. Not make moves on them. Do that enough and one might develop an interest in you, that you then decide to pursue if you're also interested.`` Then you get women and men here flaming those who take this advice because you didnt show interest in her! ``Treat them like normal ass people, and doors will open for you.`` I do and have plenty of girl friends. Not a single woman was interested however
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:34 PM
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Most people are average and pretty/ugly is pretty split
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:33 PM
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if you are ugly and short its more or less irrelevant
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:14 PM
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Nothing to do with the title though?We are talking about looks
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:09 PM
2

?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 10:05 PM
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`College age women is not a really reliable sampling to make a conclusion about women overall, and your last link is a poll, not a study.`` College women are still women. They dont become butterflies later ``and your last link is a poll, not a study`` They were still asked and women responded. I dont see whats wrong with that lol https://reis.cis.es//REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf For men, the results show that being unattractive decreases the likelihood of finding a partner, of f…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:56 PM
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I already sent you one https://www.psypost.org/2021/07/college-women-value-physical-attractiveness-in-their-sexual-partners-just-as-much-as-men-do-study-finds-61278 https://thetab.com/uk/2016/11/16/women-shallow-men-comes-judging-people-looks-says-research-25773 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/06/study-women-more-likely-than-men-to-reject-unattractive-babies/ There are a couple more which show either = or women judging more
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:45 PM
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There are plenty of studies showing women care just as much and in some more about physical attractivness
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:07 PM
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Nothing in that specific study proves that
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:53 PM
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Yes it does...?Both men and women are very visual
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:52 PM
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I know plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:34 PM
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Yeah nothing in that study debunks looks mattering more or the fact that we cant even percieve personality well duo to halo horn effect https://reis.cis.es//REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf For men, the results show that being unattractive decreases the likelihood of finding a partner, of finding a partner with a university degree, and of finding a partner with a higher educational level. For women, physical attractiveness does not affect the likelihood of any of those events occurr…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:33 PM
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A study confirmed that cheating isnt just when a partner is unhappy about their current relationship. I can send you the link to that if you want And the cheating rates are different depending on the age wanyway its not a landslide difference
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:14 PM
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I mean he is completely right here
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:12 PM
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i responded to your original comment in which you were trash talking men and how a lot of women complain about their husbands not even taking out trash
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:11 PM
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I go back and watch the rest of this game in a wife beater under shirt with a little blood on it. I can not go to games without my wife and not have women flirt with me. It gets brought up all the time and it's been 5 or more years. Yeah and none would care if you werent attractive ``There are things going on in these women's to make you attractive or unattractive you'll never know guys. How you act in public is a bigger factor than how you look. Women take in a lot of information. Not being att…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:10 PM
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If you and other women cared so much about personality you wouldnt end up with guys who cant even throw out garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:08 PM
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This study had absrtacts without sources and there are plenty other showing that even when women say they want personality and dont care much about looks it isnt really true
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:07 PM
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Yeah and i am saying if those were your standards you simply wouldnt end up with guys like that constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:52 PM
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Asians such as kpop pretty boys yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:27 PM
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They get to choose those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:38 PM
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Dont yall only choose guys with good personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:38 PM
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How is that funny?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 04:15 PM
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Yeah i didnt say all people prefer bullies. However you said the chance decreases if you are one which is clearly not the case.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:31 AM
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Experience for you=/= applies to everyone.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:24 AM
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Funny since bullies get laid more often.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:18 AM
1

Okay so no proof gotcha
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:03 AM
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Prove both
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:50 AM
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``5'3 ugly guys get laid also . Getting laid is easy for anyone`` They dont and its not.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:49 AM
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fastro if you want to play a game of anecdotes on this topic you arent winning it.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:41 AM
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None said anything is 100% truth. Almost nothing is
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:40 AM
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Whats shocking about this?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:39 AM
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He is upvoted
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:38 AM
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That wasnt what the posts were saying though especially upvoted ones. And not many 5`3 ugly guys are getting laid in this generation
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:36 AM
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Debate in good fate and not gaslight for starters
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
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Not all of it is bs what
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
2

Correct but not being nice is only going to decrease your chances, not increase your chances of anything happening. Not really
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
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Those things you listed for men are bare minimum. A lot of women can achieve most of those attributes, if not all, so from our POV that is the foundation. So if men are failing at that bare minimum standard, you can argue the bar is low. Most of the women ARE not what you listed especially in USA
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:24 PM
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Personality simply doesnt matter if she finds you ugly
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:16 PM
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My husband (5'5-5'6) approached me, told me he thought I was hot and wanted to date me. People legit claim all the time thats a terrible approach ``He wasn't my "type" but I loved his confidence. His approach. What a gentleman he was. How fun our dates were. So I dated him, moved in with him, then married him. 13 years now. I'd rather die than be without him.`` Cool i am as well. No i do not get any interest from women
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:14 PM
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It isnt everything but its most
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:34 PM
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Most people are shallow you are getting it twisted
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:27 PM
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I didnt say it doesnt matter. But to think someone is perpetually single and cant get laid at all because le bad social skills is dumb and it ONLY applies to very specific cases like autisim or complete shut ins.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:25 PM
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Yet they get into relationships?
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:24 PM
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It has often been framed that way. Surely, you've noticed bluepillers telling men to work on their social skills since forever. If you haven't made the connection between social skills and "good personality," you've just missed the point. No i am talking about the whole you are an inkwell because le bad person! `Ergo, when some people say "good personality" they probably do mean be a good person. When some say "good personality," they don't care about morality at all. When some say "good persona…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:00 PM
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Studies show its because people want to appear better and to get social clout. Thus they often list socially accepted behaviour as their priority and claim they dont care about anything superficial.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:40 PM
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Okay so 95% of women here have bad personalities according to that?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:37 PM
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Basically if this whole time it wasnt about morality but rather about social skills, then why is it rarely framed that way?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 07:37 PM
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Real. I am still waiting for a girl that i crush on to put in as much effort as i do.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 04:00 PM
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In fact OP studies show otherwise. Men are less judgmental when it comes to looks
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:56 PM
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Doesnt answer the thread.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:56 PM
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Ive been accused of having it by people who later on sent m r4pe or death trheats in dms or were absolute assholes to me
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:51 PM
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Yeah and a lot of us do that
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:51 PM
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How can you tell social skills based on a debate?And no most of the times its used for morality not social skills
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:50 PM
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Then it makes even less sense when some of us get accused of it what?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:39 PM
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Looks>personality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:05 PM
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it is cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:55 PM
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Male
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:49 PM
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Yep also college education and agreeablness is also something wedgaf about
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:49 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:36 PM
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Nothing to do with B pill
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:30 PM
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Pretty uncomfortable. They rarely put any effort and its usually me asking them about their anime/music/game shirt or when i help them with something. So i just leave since they are usually uninterested
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:29 PM
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Its nto some some. its overwhelmingly looks
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:28 PM
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Something something internet isnt real life
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:08 PM
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You litterally said thats evidence what
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 08:07 PM
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Because for women its much easier to be found attractive
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 07:57 PM
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What you said proves nothing though?
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 07:56 PM
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Every day They are family members,female friends and sometimes randoms
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 07:55 PM
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`` No hot girl would have an ugly bestie. `` A lot do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:51 PM
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Cap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:51 PM
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No one’s lying to y’all. No one is manipulating y’all. A lot are `` Women have continuously complained about the horrid men they’ve met to the point there are groups asking whether they’re dating the same asshole to protect other women… `` Wouldnt happen if personality was that valued `` So honestly women rly shouldn’t say anything to men anymore. Y’all don’t take criticism well. Whenever we don’t fit what you guys claim you bully us, you make fun of the relationships we do get in with average d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:49 PM
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Just because you know something doesnt mean you can execute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:42 PM
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If you are hot yourself yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:40 PM
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Subjective and hottest men in the world are a paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:39 PM
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Men arent constantly friendzoning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:14 PM
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Yeah and i am saying as an ugly guy i havent just met someone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:58 PM
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Did i say either of them were?Can you women stop throwing the word entitled everytime you type something on reddit holy
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 05:57 PM
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Usual answers are ugly and or short
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:59 PM
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They arent romantically interested
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:51 PM
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Its not women are emotionally inteligent. Its done on purpose or they are influenced by halo/horn effect
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:45 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:44 PM
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I do both. Doesnt mean crap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:25 PM
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Yep. I never said i am entitled to it just want it. Pretty easy to differentiate but ig women here are just misunderstanding that on purpose
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:25 PM
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Aint the first time she lied.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:24 PM
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I am around early- mid 20s women. Still 80% of them arent attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:23 PM
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It really isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:20 PM
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5`2 deformed balding burn victim janitor who confidently drinks water or 6`1 handsome fluffy hair lean guy?
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 01:21 PM
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Very rare
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 01:20 PM
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Its crazy how much hate comments she got for saying we shouldnt treat men like trash
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 01:16 PM
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Yeah thats just how it is for us average to ugly guys. We have to try way harder,cant just coast through life and get women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:13 AM
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Yeah being close was never a problem for me. I have plenty of girl friends. The problem is being ugly despite supposedly not being toxic and having basic hygiene which would put me way over 60% of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:46 PM
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I went to tango,hickeying,vollounteered, chess and tennis clubs. I also went to casual places such as bars and clubs or friend of a friend meet up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:39 PM
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Its cringe and not in good faith
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 11:36 PM
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I didnt say it wasnt okay not to be heterosexual
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 10:23 PM
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Not...the point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:00 PM
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Sometimes its unexpected(when its the tall hot guy friends) and the average ones who arent getting any attention from women need to ask their friends to constantly set them up. So yeah its not random for non top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:53 PM
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I leave my room regularly. No relationship still.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:46 PM
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Friend of a friend was the most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:46 PM
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Yawn ugly guys who dont care about getting laid arent found attractive by majority of women yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:02 PM
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By that logic i would be swimming in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:51 PM
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`` attractive and charming to 80% women around you and they will want to be support to your dreams. I will repeat again - we can sense your content, and it’s damn attractive. Women simply have really high intuition, and most of us act accordingly. `` I do that and dont have 80% of women attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:49 PM
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They find it with guys who are working their ass off by approaching constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:43 PM
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Dating apps, bars,clubs or when their friend hooks them up with a friend l.ALL intentional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:41 PM
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`` The second you stop chasing like a madman and just lay back and relax, women notice immediately. Because they all want the guy they can't get. And guys who don't chase and try hard are hard to get. Desperate and needy guys are super easy to get. `` The guys they cant get are tall and hot. Thats the point xD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:39 PM
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Not what happens except in your deluded bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:36 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:35 PM
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Well if 80% of women are average or above average it makes sense that 20% wont have a super easy time. But thats all the more reason for those 20% of women to speak up about how bs this advice is then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:29 PM
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Yep they are just walking contradictions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:10 PM
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Thats not when we claim its settiling. A woman being all giggly and excited for her wedding and whatever doesnt happen too often
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:08 PM
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There isnt. Its used as a homophobic ``joke``
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 06:54 PM
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A very small one
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 04:43 PM
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I can understand them perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:43 PM
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You arent ugly though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:02 PM
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Except unattractive men who are confident have way more success with women vs. unattractive men who aren’t, or even average guys who are shy. Now where you are correct is that it’s a lot easier for attractive people to be confident. We dont
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:59 PM
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` you can go to Korea and break your legs to make yourself highe `` Absoloutely not remotely the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:56 PM
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You said a bunch of nothing and used big words
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:55 PM
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half of what you listed was capability not confidence and you wouldnt care anyway if he wasnt attractive to you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:51 PM
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There is a difference between meg and stacy you know that right?Not any woman who isnt meg is a stacy
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:11 PM
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Because its a stuipid gay gotcha bullshit
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 12:43 PM
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1)Not wanting to date Meg or whoever it is doesnt maek him shitty 2)You need to learn what hypocrite means
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 12:34 PM
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How is that being a hypocrite what
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:17 PM
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Happens after they get rejected by a good guy as well
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 12:14 PM
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Must have been your bad personality that made your face ugly!!1!
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:43 AM
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Yes i do ``blame``. However im not bitter about it or mad at people who dont want to date me. Its just how it is So yes the point was that a guy CAN BE SINGLE while not being bitter/resentful Thats the point of the post
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:40 AM
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That wasnt the point(you missed it again but thats not surprising) The point is that yes you can be perma single WHILE working on yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:01 AM
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``This assumes that only demisexuals would be attracted to you, which of course doesn’t make sense.`` Because they are the only ones who dont care about looks/height(maybe asexuals but i have no intention of dating them)
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:53 AM
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From the amount of demisexuals t's a rare form of asexuality that only around 1 percent of the population ascribes to. So, chances are very rare that you've met a demisexual. The “demisexual definition,” as one might guess, comes from the terms "demi" "and sexual." “Demi” is the French word for half https://www.yourtango.com/2018312034/what-demisexual-meaning-13-signs-you-might-fit-demisexual-definition ``Does that mean you have stopped trying to find a woman? Because that would be a waste.`` Ye…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:48 AM
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She can but its usually used as it must be your personality since vast majority dont care!!!1! Especially with studies and irl experience. Not caring at all whatsoever is non existent from my life. ``Who even cares about the majority? Does having a trait that the majority doesn’t like mean that it’s doomed? Ofc not 😂` Because if you are short and ugly you are fighting for <2%
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:43 AM
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It is terrible if it happens to him constantly. usually a byproduct of looks
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:35 AM
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`` But as a general rule, complaining about the friendzone isn't going to do you any favors.`` I dont but calling it a crimson red flag is dumb
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:30 AM
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Because they speak for majority and we know its not the case for majority One woman on reddit doesnt really help anyones odds anyway
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:28 AM
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She also claims 90% of women get rejected constantly by bottom tier men jfc
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:25 AM
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``Then those folks are wrong. Someone saying something doesn't mean it's okay or a good idea.`` Point being that redditors get worked up over it more than girls do ``Lol, we'll agree to disagree. I think its more complicated than that.`` its not the only but its the main one
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:22 AM
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With a bunch of women
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:58 AM
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Majority of guys cant and couples are usually looks matched And no its not about talking or relating
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:58 AM
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Yet they have relationships
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:50 AM
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``This isn't a thing. They either saw you as a friend or not. Turning it into this "friendzone" notion is just weird and a crimson red flag. Relax.`` Women say it all the time irl yet i see redditors here treating it like its h1tler level red flag ``ou lost me there, but you're entitled to your opinion.`` Its facts
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:43 AM
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I dont use anecdotes alone to prove my points nor do i speak for every woman. I even specify on multiple occasions that i am talking in general or for some You meanwhile claimed EVERY single guy here is single because muh creep and used words like think and probably about guys caring more about looks when the rates are pretty similiar with guys having lesser standards.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:31 AM
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No they can understand they just dont want to I explain why each advice they give is bad
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 08:34 PM
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And this one isnt paid?
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 06:22 PM
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Yeah and it just so happens its 6`
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 05:59 PM
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I didnt say its everything.Re-read my comment
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 05:55 PM
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Tiktok or any kind of social media
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 05:54 PM
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So that works but using lets say TT as examples doesnt?Tt women are suddenly different/worse than porn couples?XD
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 05:37 PM
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I wouldnt have gotten so many looks dont matter/women dont care about looks like men do/its your personality comments were that the case
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 05:31 PM
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The logic is saying all are wrong from bluepillers is dumb duo to occams razor and sagan standard. Unless the study itself has a bad method/low sample size and isnt peer reviewed then there is no reason to throw a tantrum.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:49 PM
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It is with ill intent when it says:maybe just maybe try showering smelly inkwell?Yikeserino peperino. Assuming that if you arent getting laid you never left the basement.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:32 PM
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So called high iq bluepillers when they dont have any evidence
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:27 PM
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Again just world fallacy. Not everything can be changed nor does everyone who believe in looks>personality just wallowing in self pity and coast in life. Not how it works
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:27 PM
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No answer me if beauty was completely subjective why is that the case
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:19 PM
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Not talking about this one although yes even in this sub people like you who came to debate arent debating properly. Irl,any other sub where people give advice is either bad or with ill intent.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:10 PM
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yeah so its really weird when taller is more desired to such an extreme
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:10 PM
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Really not similiar at all. There are no nice kids helping us.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:06 PM
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Hold on but short men are still desired by so many women right?Why are their genetics worse?
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:05 PM
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But but porn isnt real life
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:04 PM
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Not the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:02 PM
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``Short ugly deformed woman are also not desirable`` Why if beauty is subjective?
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:02 PM
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``There was’t, isn’t and never will be a society that will gift free partners to anyone just because`` I never wanted it to be fixed that way. I want to at least acknowledge looks shaming exists and for people to stop bugging people that they find ugly(and for women here to pretend like that isnt an issue) ``I don't think blackpill usefulness is to give up any hope, I think it is useful to see clearly what is possible to do and what is not. there are rare hopeless situations`` I mean yeah if you…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:01 PM
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So how is it that the best is tall and conventionally attractive. Just so happens short ugly deformed guys arent desirable despite beauty being subjective
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:46 PM
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Depends. I would rather have an average than a Stacy. 10/10s wouldnt really be invested or sexually attracted to me.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:45 PM
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So you dont have any debunks?Good to hear
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:58 AM
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You cant claim they are not right and then not even read them and provide reasoning as to why they arent Also none said every study is 100% right. But saying nuh uh is retarded
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:54 AM
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You cant just respond to studies with nuh uh and then pretend like you won the argument
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:35 AM
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``of the time you spent hyperfixating on irrelevant things ``
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:30 AM
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Also any studies(which are rare) that debunk BP they use it like there is no tomorrow. Which is funny and they basically have a selection bias
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:21 AM
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I dont blame anyone.I still acknowledge those studies nor do i need any ``fixing`` from a relationship. None of the glibberish that you said just now is irrelevant to the thread
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:20 AM
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Lets stay on topic-you claimed relationships are irrelevant. Can you prove that
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 01:19 AM
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bottom 80% of women are not approaching men and if they were constantly rejected we wouldnt have far less women being virgins LMFAO
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:14 PM
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We arent attractive. Sorry to tell you you wont find an attractive nerd here.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:09 PM
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Good looking men get rejected far less. Thats the point
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:08 PM
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I would,she wouldnt date me
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:06 PM
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Wait what??? You think all HS are just a bunch of asexuals who are goody two shoes and only study? Wdym by that?So you think doctors lawyers and engineers have more time or energy or will to fuck?
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:02 PM
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Ugly fit guys are not getting laid regularly
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:00 PM
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Then if its your experience dont project it onto all of us
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:54 PM
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You have a bf though what?
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:04 PM
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`` and body match:`` I would date her but she is absoloutely not my looks match ``How many men here would choose her over this girl`` I have enough self respect not to choose an OF girl
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:03 PM
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I would date her and she would spit on me at best
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:00 PM
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Yeah betabuxxes
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 07:55 PM
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So no female friends or you have ever rejected a guy because of reasons that dont make him a trashy person?
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 07:54 PM
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If a man whines about wearing a condom just drop him
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:25 AM
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I did that during my bluepilled faze. Then i got hit with you have to try brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:19 AM
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What?A man would say usually(unless he is trad) that he doesnt care in a sense of income as long as you have a job. As for the rest that applies to men you date and most men are going to care about your hobbies or family.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:08 AM
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Prove they are non existent
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:59 AM
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Just because you yourself dont find them attractive doesnt mean majority of women dont.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:59 AM
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`` You're not. Men exactly like you have no trouble finding girlfriends` Yeah men like us get told you are not my type by every woman we meet lmao ``Most guys I've rejected have been because they were really awkward, I couldn't click or joke with them and they made really off putting or creepy comments. Men often don't understand getting rejected for their overall vibe so women just go with "You're not my type." When really, most rejections have nothing to do with physical appearance.``]\ Can yo…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:43 AM
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No he(and i) want a woman who is genuienly attracted and loves us.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:40 AM
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When they do say it yes its an insult
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:36 AM
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Lmfao with your last sentence you already showed why you cant even debate
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:32 AM
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Most dont actually debate thats the problem.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:31 AM
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Its not a strawman. its 100% used as an insult
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:20 AM
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SOME
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:20 AM
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You are cringe beyond relief
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 08:20 AM
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Anytime i see a woman talking about a guy having a great personality and thats why they fell for ihm the guy is is a servant
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 08:11 PM
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Something something not a moonlith
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:34 PM
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I dont really intend to play a jester.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:26 PM
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``oh I would fuck this guy.” I was also in a relationship at the time so I really was not trying to look elsewhere`` I mean i hope thats the case for vast majority of women lmao `ast forward about a month later and we had been hanging out almost everyday platonically. My old relationship had quickly deteriorated and we broke up due to the 9 hour separation long distance. Somewhere in that month I became aware that he had taken a liking towards me and he certainly wasn’t shy about showing it. But…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:10 PM
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I can find it both irl and on the internet without looking for it
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 06:08 PM
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Yeah that applies to physical jobs which i agree if there is something around the house that requires physicality the husband should do it.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 01:17 AM
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I wouldnt because i want her to actually be attracted to me. Ill rather jerk off than have sex once every blue moon
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 01:16 AM
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Cool. I didnt dissagree with that. My problem is her trying to imply only super attractive women get this treatment when its not the case Meanwhile sexual attraction is something men dont feel often
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 11:00 PM
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1)No gurantee she would treat me well or be sexually attracted 2)She is more than attractive enough for me
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 10:58 PM
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He is still popular enough And short and ugly<<<obese
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 10:57 PM
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Why does a man being stronger mean they should do 80% more> And on average our IQ is equal
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 10:57 PM
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Cope with what?
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 10:56 PM
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Im saying you cant in a sense of you are not a super attractive option for a partner thus someone of high value wouldtn treat you like a princess usually
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 10:56 PM
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If she has issues as to why she cant yes i would If she wont because she isnt attracted to me and wants me to serve her no
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 09:30 PM
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1)Bar for men is not on the floor 2)Its not about rizz.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:59 PM
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You can get it just not from HVM
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:56 PM
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Because this isnt exclusive to Stacies like the post is implying
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:56 PM
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I wouldnt. Thats specifically why we tell other men not to buxx LOL
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:51 PM
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As much as i di sagree with him often, he is one of the few here who actually makes a coherent argument
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:50 PM
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Take that advice
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:46 PM
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You are neither ugly and you are tall ``ooks don't matter that much`` Looks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>personality
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:44 PM
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All of them have terrible personalities so that isnt saying much
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:44 PM
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Thank god you dodged a bullet ROB!
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:42 PM
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You can find plenty of guys who would simp like that. But you claimed prior that you want an equal relationship
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:42 PM
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There is a difference between drinking and being an alchoholic
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:41 PM
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H Pearl Davis A woman who looks like her wouldnt even look at my direction lmao
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:41 PM
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This wasnt about how she looks though. He was saying that in general.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:40 PM
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Reason men didnt complain about those things was because back then you could be an asshole who doesnt care about his looks but the women were dependent on you so it didnt matter. They HAD to marry
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:39 PM
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I wouldnt want to marry in general
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:37 PM
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Fr most didnt have only 2 by their late 20`s
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 07:37 PM
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Again you wouldnt be on this sub if you actually led a happy life lmao
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 01:05 AM
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You can want a boyfriend but not be entitled to one.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 06:57 PM
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Dont talk to you as i dont do that nor approve of anyone else insulting somones looks The problem is IT and other bluepillers do that thing
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 06:51 PM
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Thats still not an excuse to flame someones looks
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 07:39 AM
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Rob with his classic insults. Tell me to what am i a danger to except debunking your argument.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 03:18 AM
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Still the same
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 03:18 AM
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You can have charm and put in effort and still not get laid
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:46 PM
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Small talk is irrelevant.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:12 PM
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I know. Its just that muh le bad personality isnt good counter argument/exist to insult looks
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:08 PM
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What are you even rambiling about
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:04 PM
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Anyone can in a sense of you can get lucky. But stats wise short ugly autistic men are not getting into constantly as you said
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:03 PM
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I had multiple dates that came from online interacting with girls. Every one of them was either disgusted upon seeing me or was lukewarm from the moment they saw me and had to ``cancel the date``
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:03 PM
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Why would you attack them on apperance anyway?Them having le bad personality isnt good reasoning
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 07:55 PM
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``Autism isn't an excuse for anything. It's their behavior that turns women off.`` It isnt an excuse. Very small amount get married ``Everyone gets relationships, even autistic people.`` I mean this isnt a good debunk given that losers and asocial people get into too
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 07:53 PM
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Yes
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 10:27 AM
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No, plenty of ugly autistic short men DO NOT get laid Autisim is like one of the biggest reasons why a man cant enter a relationship(studies support this) And using your logic against you-far more men with bad personality and or without confidence get laid sooo. ``You can't get a wife if you're scared to leave the house `` Ah yes because anyone who cant find a wife must be a shut in loser!
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:58 AM
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Easily
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:56 AM
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That doesnt make you ugly, just average
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:55 AM
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I know plenty of people with no self esteem getting laid
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:54 AM
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Prove bp right
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 09:53 AM
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Cool. I never dissagreed. I just have beef with people who claim looks are completely subjective or that they dont matter
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:52 PM
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The only people who browse here are those who are ugly or unhappy with their lives or both.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:01 PM
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I dont. But a guy who cannot get any hook ups and doesnt have any woman really attracted to him but has to compensate and put in way more effort is pathetic tbh
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:53 PM
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They actually spend their free time productively yes
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:52 PM
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He has told victims of bullying that they are making stuff up btw
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah they are bullshitting. Thats the point
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:47 PM
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psychopathic and misogynistic men are more likely to have the self esteem to approach women in the first place so it would make sense that they are also more likely to have sex which requires men to approach women They are the ones with low self esteem 99% of the time
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:46 PM
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I still hear it but less
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:45 PM
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Crime is you being incapable of reading
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:42 PM
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One of the women here told me that most men are ugly and short jfc
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 10:54 AM
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Find something better to do with your life...?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 10:54 AM
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Yep i always applied that advice to my dating life. Where did that lead to?They are only interested in talking about themselves and not vice versa. And if i dont do that then they have no reason to even entertain me because i am ugly and short.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 10:51 AM
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yeah the irony is you saying you only see men fantasize about women but not vice versa
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 01:26 AM
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Wait you dont see the irony in your sentences?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 01:10 AM
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``They also resent if their wife or girlfriend wants them to make more money to be able to provide.`` The opposite is the case
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:59 AM
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Most women aren’t marrying men they don’t find attractive I beg to differ ``Maybe she hates sex because he made sex unpleasant. A lot of men want sex too much. Every day is too much. Once or twice a week is good. And not for hours on end- that’s exhausting. For an hour or two is good. And make sure she cuts at least twice unless she’s cool with not cumming that time for whatever reason.`` Yeah it can be their fault. But its also not a surprise when women do not initiate or put effort in with ave…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:56 AM
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``Being a provider for your wife? It’s considered beta bucks and men accuse the woman of settling for a husband she hates.`` Yes you shouldnt settle for someone you dont want to fuck their brains out. And yes in this current climate its incredibly difficult for one person to provide unless they are in the top 10% of wealth ``Wife doesn’t put out for a few weeks due to stress? Men accuse her of hating her husband and using him for whatever he offered.`` Men who do this are brats i agree. However …
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:36 AM
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One has far more relevance to dating
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:30 AM
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Sigh
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:30 AM
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Hip dips simply arent comparable to short height for men.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:20 PM
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No im just wondering cause you are essentially complaining about people complaining
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:19 PM
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Also isnt it pathetic that men kneel down and most of them doubt that she is going to say yes. Idk if the relationship is so great and she actually shows her appreciation for you, you would have no reason to doubt
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 08:02 PM
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I wouldnt marry a person i wasnt attracted to
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 08:01 PM
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Then dont come to those posts like huh...?
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 07:57 PM
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This doesnt apply to a lot of them
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 07:56 PM
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It wasnt hated on by guys. On TT it started as a trend by women and you had 50k comments of guys asking what are those
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 07:50 PM
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Those women doing that according to you is wrong
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 07:50 PM
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Bro thinks hip dips are relevant
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 05:33 PM
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We arent
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 05:32 PM
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Pretty sure you made a comment recently about how you react is not anyones fautl but yours
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 05:17 PM
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Yep. So either they hate to fuck or hate you wanting to
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 11:30 AM
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So why arent they mean to 99.9% of young male population then?
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:39 AM
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Its implying it. Either that or the fact that he is ugly
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:39 AM
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Nothing
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 08:52 AM
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If he got bullied out of the blue in school it aint
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 11:19 PM
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Prove they are all fake And that wasnt the original premise of your argument
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 10:31 PM
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Not really...the first one we see his bio,messages he is getting etc
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 10:08 PM
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I mean there are plenty of other stuff that support it. And the example you gave is dumb because its just a statement without any evidence. Its not the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:59 PM
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You dont need to pretend to be one what the fuck are you smoking. You can easily just match up with women your age
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:44 PM
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You are yet to actually poke holes in any arguments.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:43 PM
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Yeah therfore looks>personality
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:42 PM
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How does it being a picture on reddit inherently make it non factual
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:35 PM
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So men who approach apperantly only like someone for their apperance. Thats dumb logic
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:30 PM
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How is it his fault that he was bullied what? And having friends and lovers DOES NOT inherently make you better or a better person
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:29 PM
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I mean you and everybody else cant prove why its not valid
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 09:27 PM
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Yeah i and a lot of men i know would be considered in dont look category despite trying very hard for years.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 05:37 PM
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Their opinion which is often r3tarded
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 05:34 PM
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She is either doing it on purpose or ill. No in between
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:38 PM
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Sorry approach you. Is that better sweetie?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:29 PM
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You missread on purpose. Do you realize how off putting that iS?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:29 PM
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But but its because they were confident in being vampires!!!1!
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:21 PM
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You are*
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:20 PM
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My standards:Passes the looks treshold(not obese,heavily deformed,not a burn victim), not disabled and washes her hands semi regularly and takes a shower at least 3 times a week If you pass that then its only personality and even that isnt high(be attracted to me, dont abuse me(at least not constantly) be horny and optionally share at least 1 hobby with me)
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:14 PM
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I do. Doesnt matter.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:10 PM
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Yeah because if women arent throwing themselves at you it must be because inever went out you are right
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:10 PM
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Yet obese guys here claim they are getting laid And yes if you are short and facially ugly you can play as many instruments as you want it will be useless
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:09 PM
1

But but pseudo science!
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 02:05 PM
1

Its clearly not super subjective since there is such a big discrepancy
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 11:15 AM
1

I wonder if this whole personality detector was something that one person said, and now you guys are hyperfocused on it like crazy. A lot do constantly ``I've heard there is some data regarding women being more attuned to these visual and nonverbal cues. I can't remember the study, but if I had to guess, I think it's partly due to socialization and societal norms.`` There is also a study which someone here posted and it basically says that most of our predictions are wrong
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 10:25 AM
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It has some objectivity to it because if i were to start singing 99.9-100% of people would say i sing worse than proffesional singers
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 10:02 AM
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Prove my definition of normal is that And why did you say ``thats the best you can do`` if you want to accuse me of being a p3do
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:05 AM
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Then why do you insult people who do go for normal lmfao?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:01 AM
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Didnt you just say that we dont pay attention to normal women?So you concede on that baseless claim?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:58 AM
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1)I dont 2)I am more interested in normal and ugly women than pretty ones. Try again tard
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:55 AM
1

This is such a braindead take.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:51 AM
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And there are also plenty where they tolerate an attractive guy who isnt washin his ass
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:46 AM
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``What does that mean "near universally more loved?" Lots of short dudes married to women who chose them over some taller dude she could have picked.`` Headcanon and irrelevant ifthey marry. Point is that were it subjective you would have a balanced ratio and not mens tallness being far more preferable. ``Biases like that are subtle. They work over populations, and are never anywhere near universal. Might women on average tend to prefer taller guys, all else being equal? Certainly seems plausibl…
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:41 AM
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We should still have a relatively balanced ratio of people women find attractive. Yet it just so happens tall is for example near universally more loved
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 02:21 AM
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But but isnt beauty subjective
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 07:55 PM
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True you totally cant observe this irl
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 07:33 PM
1

Easier to do it this way
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 01:30 AM
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The thing is even on apps like bumble(in which women filtered massively by 6`) where the ratio is closer to even you are on a much tougher court than IRL. Even if all men were equal a lot would still remain single cause the ratio is at best 60/40 and at worst 90/10
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:33 AM
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`` Take some good photos that show you as the real you, make a funny bio, mine is 'looking for my wife`` You consider this funny? ``t's not exactly a science to get laid, everyone has sex.`` The amount of has massively dropped since 2008. ``What is a science is trying to work out which woman is worth your time and who you're most compatible with`` Compatible=/= her wanting to fuck you ``d. Maybe I am, and should be open to spending more time with these women to truly appreciate them for who they…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:10 AM
7

Its really bad advice. Dating apps are horrible unless you are a HVM
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:05 AM
2

Yeah this is your problem. You assume anyone here who hasnt gotten into relationship is: Spewing nonsense,hasnt tried and had a terrible attitude from the start
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:04 AM
7

Were that the case we would have plenty of women being loud about how much they like short guys.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:01 AM
5

Huh?I know you are trying to act like a smart ass but its pretty simple Attractive tall men=more desirable than short ugly guys
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 11:59 PM
1

They are given by women when they fuck them yes.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:54 PM
8

Yeah this post
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 05:02 PM
10

Memes write themselves
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 04:41 PM
1

OOOOOH SHIT I WANTED TO RESPOND TO HIM FUUUUUUUUUCK DebateDelusion was making me respond to him since apperantly me not being hostile against him is proof i approve his words
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 04:34 PM
2

How am i wrong though
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 04:33 PM
2

``You want an interesting, pretty girlfriend`` Baseless assumption ``People who have way too high standards exist on both sides - though on here its exclusively women who get berated for it`` I dont berate anyone for having any kind of standards. Your standards are your standards ``And i speak from personal experience on that one: my dad is perhaps the best example of an average guy who got married 2x in 5 years`` Yeah i am not average nor is getting married an accomplishment for me. And nothing…
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 11:21 AM
2

Yeah and that on its own wont get you dates
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 10:25 AM
2

No need to jerk each other off. He is clearly in the wrong
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 10:24 AM
3

Yeah because you claimed i used it wrongly when i didnt and you couldnt prove it.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 10:24 AM
4

Ah yes because thats the only standard you are right. Totally.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 10:15 AM
3

Horrible
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 10:12 AM
7

You agreed with everything he said in the post and then dumped muh black and white thinking. Yes looks are the most important thing
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:56 AM
1

Their ranks are determined by how many women approach them or are open to approaching
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:55 AM
1

Yeah i listen to what women want and its brutal
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:52 AM
5

We complain about any and its not the same thing. None is telling her yikeserino maybe start being respectful?
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:51 AM
4

``You are wrong. Because sexual attraction, romantic attraction, and the bond between partners grows when nurtured.`` He stated this via saying going on dates and thus getting to know each other. You said this a couple of times already and each and every time you reply like this you are wrong
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 09:50 AM
1

Far less than vice versa
/r/BlackPillScience29/08/23 09:44 AM
1

`` I find it easier to guess which girl is hot than which guy my female friends will be into. And they rarely agree at all. `` We men also find most women attractive so its hard to dissagree
/r/BlackPillScience28/08/23 11:26 PM
4

Yeah and its not personality solely
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 09:16 PM
5

Just world fallacy. A lot of POS get laid
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 07:54 PM
6

This is NOT the reason more men are single lmao
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 06:43 PM
12

None deserves anything
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 06:43 PM
10

Then what is the correct interpretation?And fuck off with your shitty insults
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 06:03 PM
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``Oh. So it's that simple? It couldn't be... That would make everyone seem like hysterical weirdos! Well my lovelies, allow me to leave you with the TOTAL percentage for all adult aged respondants:`` Yes this proves the point of settiling down even more.I really am not enthusiastic about dating 35+year old women And these stats also confirm that chads have harems in youth
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 05:52 PM
1

None deserves anything.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 11:55 AM
5

Yeah. I dont mind anyone having this standard but the way this is treated by society is funny If a man wants a virgin he is shamed, if he doesnt want a girl with 50+ he is shamed Women arent shamed either way for 2 of these things
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 11:54 AM
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HELPPPPP
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 12:55 AM
-1

Based girl
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 12:15 AM
1

They also attack looks. They often use my height/ugly face as a gotcha in debates. And btw as far as i am aware women dont like men who fatshame(and IT members are usually fat anyway)
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 11:32 PM
1

Thats absoloutely not the same thing. Far far far less men would reject men because of small boobs than women would for height. And men have varied taste
/r/BlackPillScience27/08/23 11:27 PM
1

Its not a different choice of words those arent the same thing
/r/BlackPillScience27/08/23 11:20 PM
2

But but le confidence more important!!1!!!
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 10:13 PM
2

I know i was joking But yes your experiment is suifuel
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 10:03 PM
3

When?
/r/BlackPillScience27/08/23 09:36 PM
2

Your argument isnt even making sense And when you include prison and MTP(which govrements view as a joke unfortunately)stats are pretty close
/r/BlackPillScience27/08/23 09:36 PM
2

But but chadfishing bad!
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 09:24 PM
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1)Approaching god knows how many women per day randomly is a terrible advice 2)There are 3.5 bilion women is also terrible because an average person doesnt even know 10 000 on a personal level 3)The rest that he mocked in the rest of his comment was the you`ll find one eventually bro while other people are fucking. So yeah i dont see how any of that is valid advice and he deservedly mocked it.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 08:15 PM
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I mean he just nailed what a lot of bpers here say i dont know why that got you upset
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 07:54 PM
3

Oh no another buzzword
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 07:39 PM
9

You nailed exactly how they sound LMAO
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 03:55 PM
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That i am not satan for not having a gf. That i can dissagree with confidence being the most important thing while also having female friends and touching grass That i am not blaming anyone for rejecting me.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 03:53 PM
1

Not really. When my chad friends talk about it IRL none is dissagreeing or saying yikeserino about it. There are also a lot of tiktokers who claim that and dont get shat on by women
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 12:31 PM
2

Sure
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 12:20 PM
4

There are like 5 more studies about this. Its mostly equal however recent ones have been leaning more into men caring less
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 12:17 PM
1

On my face
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 12:12 PM
3

It isnt. Re-read our conversation. I asked him that because he is advocating for insults.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:17 PM
6

Its not about coping. Its that saying they are completely subjective is dumb.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:53 PM
4

``In my opinion, in an argument, it's valid to point out that a person who can't even take care of themselves doesn't have the best grasp on the subject, which in this case is most often dating.`` There are obese bluepillers here. And no again being ugly=/= not knowledgable on dating
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:21 PM
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``As I stated, it's not attacking looks directly, it's attacking the bad habits that led to those looks. They can be changed, it's about the fact that the person is lazy and doesn't do that`` So in your opinion if you are arguing with someone and you start losing the argument its valid to attack their looks? ``Looks are subjective but we are talking about the masses. There will be someone who will like the worst of hairstyles, but most people won't. There are many niches you can cater to, but yo…
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:13 PM
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`` Those photos show that those guys are unatractive because they dress ugly, have bad hair, bad hygene, general bad self care, bad fitness etc.`` The point is if you are in an argument or whatever attacking looks is the immediate way to lose it. Aka Ad hominems Second-if looks were subjective bad grooming or fashion choice wouldnt exist. And yes i take care of myself- i am still ugly
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:07 PM
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No. I advocate for women to pick only men they find attractive(and preferably arent bad people) so average and below average men dont get stuck in deadbedrooms. Pick a guy who you are head over heels with.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 08:01 PM
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if looks were irrelevant and or subjective they wouldnt be able to use those pictures as insults and wouldnt insult looks in general
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 07:59 PM
1

I also have plenty of female friends and aquanticies whom i was nice and fun with. Didnt matter
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 05:03 PM
10

It isnt normal human reaction. Be confident is a meme advice same as showering.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 05:03 PM
2

1)just world fallacy, Plenty oftrashy people get laid 2)Just being nice means ABSOLOUTELY nothing. The fact that you said that proves you are lying 3)Looks>personality
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:38 PM
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Im saying believing looks>confidence doesnt inherently mean that. I never said people here dont hate. I believe in bp but dont hate on anyone
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:35 PM
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Getting dates=/=your life going well And yes often times they are late bloomers or still virgins. Some are obese, some sent me r4pe and death threats in dms etc.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:35 PM
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When you have no debunks just say buzzwords like cult Also lets not mention same phrases, do these sound familiar: Yikes yikes This so much this! Maybe try showering? Just be confident
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:34 PM
5

BP=/=hating inherently.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:33 PM
1

`` Is it also true that average looking or fat guys are also successful in dating attractive women?`` Succesful as in they can find someone?Yes average guys can find someone albeit its difficult ``People keep saying that it's all about "confidence" and "personality" when the reality is, those two things are much harder to develop as opposed to a guy developing his physique in the gym`` Not really. ``An average looking or ugly guy that has an attractive wife/girlfriend has "confidence" because of…
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 01:59 PM
3

I was confident about my scar too and the only thing that happened was having it called disgusting.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 01:52 PM
2

Yeah i agree they are usually equivalent. I myself almost never ever saw the infamous 0/10 guy with confidence with a 10/10 bombshell.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 01:51 PM
1

More men are born than women https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio Summary. The sex ratio at birth is not equal: in every country births are male-biased. There are biological reasons why there are slightly more boys born every year than girls. The 'natural' sex ratio at birth is around 105 boys per 100 girls (ranging from around 103 to 107 boys).
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 01:49 PM
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I go out irl often too. I maybe saw a 10/10 with a 5/10 once. And that was an older couple.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 04:56 AM
1

Source?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 04:42 AM
1

Clearly not the case since women arent getting pregnant from hook ups or fwbs.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 10:29 PM
1

Yeah your whole argument doesnt make sense. Even if its ajoke its a bad one
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 09:02 PM
1

It doesnt. Because more women are lesbian/bi. And more report not wanting to be in a relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 09:02 PM
1

This isnt exclusive to women
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 09:01 PM
1

If that were the case(since men initiate the most) almost 80% of women would be single
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 09:01 PM
1

There is Population isnt 50/50
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:30 PM
1

yeah because reddit is totally the place!
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:07 PM
1

I also have short ugly ones. No they do not slay at the parties by being confident
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:00 PM
1

Why?
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 04:04 PM
1

``Doesnt matter if its that or no friends`` It matters because i have experienced both and i can tell you the option now is better ``Gj! there might be at least one healthy friendship if she also puts in effort. Way to go`` She didnt fall down on her knees when she saw me with confidence. Thats weird though :P
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 02:13 PM
1

`They are using you for attention because you PERSONALLY admitted to it being a onesided friendship because you do all of the complimenting, interviewing and making them feel good 😂😂😂. The way they treat you makes it obvious`` Because as i explained(you cant read though) its either that or no female friends and still no gf obviously Albeit one of my female friends called me yesterday to check up on me and asked me to hangout so that was a nice surprise
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 01:57 PM
2

``and are just using you for your attention ☠️☠️☠️`` Why is that using me for attention?I never had intention to date any of them and was only interested in 1 female friend(whom i dont even interact much with anymore unfortunately) Every girl i was interested in was specifically not someone close because women tell me 24/7 how a guy who is interested in their friends is creepy ``since they obviously wouldnt`` You said this 15 times and yet to prove it.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 01:31 PM
2

It doesnt and my friend group is full of giga chads
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 11:07 AM
1

Gaslighting?When
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 11:06 AM
1

Nothing to do with loyalty and both genders cheat The point was muh confidence doesnt work
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 10:16 PM
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Yep. I have plenty of women whom i am confident with, love listen and respect. Yet i am not in a relationship with any. That alone isnt the ``standard`` if you arent already attractive. Thats why you hear so many stories of guys who use 3 in 1 at best or dont even shower and wash their asses being in relationships
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 10:00 PM
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``Who's telling anyone to cold-approach? That doesn't work most of the time even if you're hot. `` I just had an argument about that a few days ago so yeah a lot of people do ``Go to parties and hit up girls that are a friend of a friend.`` Doesnt work when you are short and ugly
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 09:59 PM
5

Multiple studies that show women care about looks as much or more than men do as well was their standards being higher
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 06:36 PM
9

If you constantly arent getting your attention while your male friends are yes it does
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 11:45 PM
2

But-but personality
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 10:40 PM
9

Yeah if they dont pursue you at social settings its over
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 10:35 PM
7

I am obviously talking about int he social setting. 99% of people and 99.9% of women dont approach random bozos in public
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 09:46 PM
6

And dont forget about halo horn effect
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 09:31 PM
16

You claimed your only standard was a man being confident LOL
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 08:46 PM
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She wont be attracted to you because women know in the first 5 seconds of wether or not you are physically attractive
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 08:45 PM
2

Something something none deserves anything
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 08:43 PM
6

Bro a guy who is enganged here was called that tfym xD
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:03 PM
5

Yeah except thats not when its used against me or others
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:02 PM
2

I mean first off most of the things you cant even sense properly or give accurate judgments. Studies confirm it And second none said you need to be a 10/10. But you absolotuely cannot be a 3/10 as a man. It goes beyond just relationships
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:11 PM
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Fr litterally just by having 2 eyes and ears and girl friends you are bound to be.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:09 PM
1

Just like women on reddit
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:09 PM
6

I mean it is proving him right soo
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:08 PM
5

Except its used a lot of the times someone dissagrees with you. Thats the problem.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:07 PM
6

I mean so do you....?Liek what
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:07 PM
2

Anyone who commits just world fallacies is both evil and cant make a coherent argument
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:36 AM
4

Just move to a different country bro
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 05:25 PM
7

Yeah and what he shows here is downright disgusting
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 02:57 PM
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His personality is also terrible so i dont see where he is self improving
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 02:46 PM
2

1)Your value isnt determined by relationships no? 2)Women claim all the time how important hiygene is.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 02:44 PM
1

No. Her saying this applies to vast majority of women is just plain wrong. If confidence was the only reason then anyone who is confident would get laid. Doesnt work like that.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 01:01 PM
2

You are the one who is acting like a toddler and none said we are preplexed.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:58 PM
3

You are the one who speaks in black and white lmfao
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:58 PM
1

Cool. Thats still not the only reason you are attracted to him.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 01:15 AM
2

They like hanging out with you but not how you look yes.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:41 AM
4

You can be the best human being and not get laid. you fallacious fck
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:41 AM
1

None asked.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:40 AM
1

Not because he is just confident.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:40 AM
1

We dont xD
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:39 AM
3

Looks>attitude. A lot of my female friends that i have still consider me ugly.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:38 AM
1

Actually the studies prove the claims by women here wrong sooo i have nothing against that.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:28 AM
1

Funny anecdotes about this Every girl in class agreed i was the ugliest guy a few years back During my entire life my best friend was always rated as much more attractive BY EVERY SINGLE PERSON even when we both took good pics. And yeah calling it completely subjective is retarded.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 09:08 PM
2

Yeah and IT JUST SO HAPPENS certain faces and height is far more attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 09:07 PM
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If it was subjective we wouldnt have the term conventionally attractive or models or beauty standards. We wouldnt have studies proving which kind of faces or height is more desirable on average. If it was subjective you bluepillers wouldnt be able to tell lonely men muh just date ugly women instead of attractive ones!!!! I wouldnt be considered less attractive(facially) by EVERY SINGLE WOMAN compared to my best friend that we have met. So yes while it has some partial subjectivness(Lean vs bulky…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 08:15 PM
1

I mean its a fact that its not subjetive
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 08:07 PM
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If beauty was subjective i wouldnt be rated as the ugliest guys in class a few years ago
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 07:01 PM
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