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I get called "sweetheart"/"sweetie" all the time by strangers of both genders who are about 30-35 or older. I don't mind it as a general rule (obviously depends on when and how it's being used), and I wouldn't automatically assume that a man calling be that was hitting on me. If a male peer called me that, I would think that (or at least think "uh that's a bit weird"*), but I don't think any man around my age has ever done that except for the one that was actually my boyfriend. Yes, even if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:54 AM
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I think this advice may have overlooked women of color... my lips are absolutely not super dark espresso brown and I would look VERY off if I wore lipstick in that shade. Maybe I wouldn't look awful but it would be very obviously unnatural. I HAVE been looking for a "nude" shade that matches my lips for forever (because I usually wear deep red or plum on my lips, which are obviously very "made up" looking and clash with light-colored clothing) and found this, which is close to the natural color …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:40 PM
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I developed insomnia a few months ago and arguing on PPD at 4 am genuinely makes me feel like my brain cells are just melting away. Insomnia sucks 😞 I've been dealing with it off and on for over a decade, but it got really bad after I caught COVID around New Year's. I would literally be awake for the entirety of the night, watching the sun come up, and then would fall asleep at some point during the day, so on several occasions I was sleeping through afternoon appointments. But even during the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:46 PM
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This place is mind poison. I'm honestly mad that I wasted 6 months of my life spending a significant percentage of my waking moments (which were never when they were supposed to be, because depression) arguing on here. Now I come here every few days to see what's being talked about and am usually like, "you know what, I just don't care anymore".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:00 PM
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I think they're talking about THESE men, not ALL men. I presume that their boyfriends aren't arguing on PPD. If my only exposure to the male gender was online, I would also think that men don't see women as fully human. But I can look at people I know and realize that, while some guys are sexist pieces of shit, most are just people trying to make their way through the world and relate to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:55 PM
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A guy recently asked me if us women ever talked about, for example, the Ukraine conflict among ourselves. I always laugh when these guys complain about not being able to talk about politics and philosophy with women. Like dude, did you go to college? I've had male and female acquaintances where the entire initial basis of our relationship was talking about politics, because I was part of a political group. There were more women in it than men. This tells me that, not only were you solely chasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:14 PM
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When I was a freshman in college, I went to the same crepe place in the student center- once with an attractive friend and once with a less attractive friend. The guy behind the counter was a creep who probably shouldn't have been working at a college in any capacity, but he definitely racheted up the creep behavior when I came with my attractive friend. When I came with my less attractive friend, he didn't say much of anything beyond the transaction itself- he made one comment to me, but preten…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:06 PM
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as is calling women fake, lying and unskilled in their interests The "women don't have hobbies and interests, they just copy them from their boyfriends" thing 🙄 I once asked "so where do little girls get their interests from?" and the responses were mixed, but a common running theme was that girls essentially go through a memory wipe at puberty and are reprogrammed as Fembots that only care about boys and socializing. I mean, I was known as "the girl who's obsessed with natural disasters" in mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:46 PM
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So, I know that this sounds the same to a redpiller as a guy who "just read TRP for the self improvement", but I used to just read FDS for the self-improvement. It was early in my trauma/narcissistic abuse recovery, about two years ago, and I had some posts from there saved that were about setting boundaries, how to respond to gaslighting, etc. I had like 3-5 posts of that nature saved, and IIRC they weren't even explicitly gendered (they were also talking about cutting out toxic women in your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:33 PM
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Care to elaborate? I mean, the evopsych explanation is that all of the higher-level justifications that we make for our actions (i.e. "I've been told that this red looks really good on my warm brown skin") are just justifications and that our primitive biological drives are the actual reason that we do anything. How do you "compartmentalize" something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:37 PM
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After not being here for a while, I've concluded that seeing everything through the lens of biology and evopsych really ruins things. For example, I was looking for a reddish-brown ("brick red") tinted lip balm to match this blush I want to buy (Q4 anyone on here who wears makeup: anyone know of a less expensive dupe of this? This is the shade I'm looking for but I don't like the idea of spending $21 on a lip balm), and somewhere in my brain the PPDer who now lives in there piped up, "Ackshually…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:31 AM
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My aunt and uncle, and my godparents to a lesser extent. Idk if I would say that there's a looks disparity (I can't really tell, because, they're family + they're old now so they exist in a nonsexual primordial ooze) but both men make a lot of money. When I was younger, I assumed that my aunt was also a computer engineer and just worked from home while raising children (because I knew that they had worked for the same firm and I interpreted that as "they met working at the same firm") but my dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:14 AM
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There will be someone willing to provide sex for money of their own free will. So why don't incels go that route? Oh, because they think someone else should buy the prostitute for them? The government provides people with money for food because you'll die without it. The government provides people with housing because you'll die without it. You won't die without sex. We can't even fucking give people free healthcare (again, something you will die without) and y'all are like "but no one will suck…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:31 PM
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No one suggested nonconensual means. With food, society taxes people and redistributes money. Food doesn't have to consent to being consumed. A human being has to consent to having their body used. Sex workers are a thing if such a policy is desired. Sex workers are already a thing. Go buy one if you're so desperate to meet this "need". I mean, clearly you don't care whether the person is there of their own free will or not, so... My only point was that it's hypocritical to act like your desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:28 PM
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Something being considered a "need" according to Maslow's hierarchy of needs doesn't mean that you are entitled to take it through nonconsensual means. Food is a primary need, but if a starving person steals your food, that's theft. Shelter is a primary need, but if a homeless person becomes a squatter in your home, that's also theft. And even that isn't a 1:1 comparison, because food and shelter are inanimate objects so they don't need to consent to being used. Human beings are not objects. Abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:24 PM
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Right but at a safe haven someone else takes care of the child. You aren't letting it die because you don't want to take care of a child anymore. Yes, because letting it die is unnecessary in order to sever your responsibility for it. It's not leeching off of your internal processes, causing permanent damage to your body, and posing a risk to your very life that lethal force (removal) is necessary in order to prevent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:13 PM
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Actually, it doesn't. There's a difference between a fetus that can survive outside the womb and one that can't. However, 5 months (~20 weeks) is basically the cutoff point for "later abortion", which, again, only 3 clinics in the entire U.S. will perform. Almost 80% of abortions are performed at the embryonic stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:11 PM
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I assume you mean you can't abandon them in the woods. You can abandon them at certain locations, though- that's what "safe havens" are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:37 PM
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The women here clearly don't care about romantically unsuccessful men but expect others to care about their rights. Because romantic success is not a right. The right for consenting adults to freely have sex if they so choose does not mean that people have the right to have sex with anyone they want whether the other person consents or not. It's not a "dOUbLE sTAnDARD", because no one is claiming that romantically unsuccessful women have a right to the bodies of nonconsenting men (or women). No …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:32 PM
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6 month fetuses are illegal to abort in 44 out of 50 states except in the case of a medical emergency. There are only 3 clinics left in the entire U.S. that will perform these procedures. Almost 80% of abortions happen before the 9th week of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:13 PM
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But if abortion is murder, why is it okay to murder someone if they are a product of rape? Is it acceptable for a mother to murder her 5 year old if that 5 year old was conceived through rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:10 PM
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It would be the same as if my best friend had died in childhood before I ever met her. I wouldn't know I had lost something, but my life would be poorer than the version of reality where she hadn't died. It's also the same as if your best friend had never been conceived. By that logic all women should be constantly pregnant because those babies will be someone's best friend one day, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:08 PM
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Why should a parent have to go through the ordeal and sometimes danger of raising a toddler just to save someone else? They don't. That's why adoption exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:00 PM
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It's so easy for women to make friends. They never need to prove themselves, they just need to be themselves and people gravitate towards them. Lol, no, this isn't how it works. -sincerely, a woman who has trouble maintaining friendships and was one of the "outcast girls" in school
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:39 PM
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Exactly this. No one wants to be someone's last option. Settling is the recipe for an awful relationship for both the settler AND the one who was settled for (don't even get me started on if both parties settled for each other). Too many people on here think that relationships should work like "well we're both single and we're both approximately 6.5s on the looks scale, so now we're together". You're supposed to be with your partner because you want to be with THEM, not because you don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:42 PM
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Exactly, but that's why all this talk about "women are the choosers" and "women are in control of the dating scene" is ridiculous. Even IF you adhere to a "man approaches, woman accepts or declines" traditionalist view of dating (which isn't always the case), he chose her when he approached her. He's in control of who he decides to approach. Therefore he's in as much control of whether a relationship happens as she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:58 AM
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Both are in control of the relationship. Relationships are a two-way street. If either one of them doesn't want to go out on a date/have sex/make it official/get married, it won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:04 AM
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He still has to ask. If he doesn't ask, it won't happen. If she's the one asking, he can say no. Consent works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:35 AM
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I've never actually witnessed a birth but I've heard that term used, so I assumed that that's what happens. I might be wrong. But what I meant to say is that a paternity test should be done before the presumed father agrees to be listed on the birth certificate, and that would clear up this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:20 AM
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I think that passing a law mandating paternity testing at birth is a lot more feasible than "dismantling the stigma" of a man asking for one in a relationship. Legal changes are much easier to make than societal changes, especially where personal relationships are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:08 PM
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But there's no way that you can do that unless it's a universal mandate. Think of it like this: if you were in a high-end store, and they had an employee at the door that was searching everyone's bags before they left so as to prevent shoplifting, it probably wouldn't even faze you when they searched your bag. But if you were trying to leave the store and an employee specifically approached you and said they had to search your bag before you could, you would be like, "Wtf? What did I do to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:03 PM
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So if it's acceptable for men to cheat with multiple women because "biology", it's acceptable for women to commit paternity fraud because "biology", right? Or... hear me out... humans have prefrontal cortices for a reason and can/should override our biological impulses when we need to because that's the only way we can have civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:10 PM
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If you have the tools like 2 pots, a covering, and a fire pit to take the swamp water and boil down the toxins and a few times to purify it through distillation, then you are surrounded by potentially drinkable water if you are a woman. But there is nothing analogous to "distillation" when we're talking about sexual offers. A woman cannot turn "non-drinkable water" into "drinkable water" through her own actions. Y'all (rightfully) make fun of women who sleep with fuckboys thinking "I can change …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:02 PM
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It is not uncommon for women to regularly store, hide and fuck plastic "pulseless" dick molds, I don't think they have much say on this. Dildos are objects. Human beings are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:57 PM
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I think that having paternity testing mandated at birth before the father signs the birth certificate would mitigate this. Yeah, if my hypothetical husband wanted a paternity test on our child, I would be upset because of the built-in assumption that he doesn't trust me. I would actually start wondering whether he was cheating, since cheaters love to project their disloyalty onto their partners. I would still do it in order to prove I had nothing to hide ("of course I was faithful, asshole"), bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:49 PM
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I never said that men are never in abusive relationships. I offered the most charitable interpretation of the comment that was being replied to. Maybe they were saying that male victims of abuse don't deserve as much help as female victims, which... I mean, men are much less likely to be murdered by their abusive partners, but the bar for an acceptable standard of living should be much higher than "not literally being murdered" and emotional abuse IS still abuse (and it's not like a man who's be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:19 PM
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You must be joking, you have seriously never seen a man date a woman less attractive than him? You must have selective vision cuz I assure you it happens all the time. Out of people that I personally know and/or follow on social media, no. I've probably passed by attractive men who were with less attractive women on the street, but I can't remember (and not every male-female pair you see on the street is a couple). Maybe I've known male 7s who were with female 6.5s, but I consider that "pretty e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:13 PM
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This is America right? Yes. Evangelical main character syndrome is like the neo manifest destiny; it's no wonder that their maligned notions of empathy rubs off on the rest of the sane population. I'm not completely sure what this means, but when I say I have "main character syndrome", I mean that I'm a writer and maladaptive daydreamer and most of my material comes from my own life so I literally perceive my life in the form of an ongoing movie/book/TV show. Less so now than I did even a couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:26 AM
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When asked, the little girl just said that he was her "friend". I mean, if he hasn't escalated to trying anything yet, she might actually believe that (I was "friends" with an older male aide at my school at that age and thought the weird vibes I got from him then were just in my head), and if he has tried something she's definitely scared and covering for him. Poor baby. I hope he hasn't escalated yet and is dealt with before he can do anything to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:17 AM
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My dad told me a story about his job that is really bothering me. He works security at a hospital, and he found another security officer (who was off-duty) hanging out in the children's behavioral health unit and chatting with a 12 year old black girl. Apparently according to nursing staff he's visited her there multiple times. I met this guy very briefly a couple of months ago and got a very off vibe from him. The way that he reacted to me bothered me, especially before he knew who I was (I cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:48 AM
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Women aren't allowed to walk around with our vaginas out, so no. We're not even allowed to walk around with our asses or titties out, but I assume that by "out" you mean "the outline of this body part is clearly visible through fabric" or "I can see 1/10th of the skin even though all the offending parts are covered".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:29 AM
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Anecdotally, it's definitely men. Especially in my own family. Finding out how many husbands in my family have been unfaithful was heartbreaking. I always idealized marriage and thought of it as an ethereal eternal bond, and, as someone who had a difficult youth, thought that if I could get to the point of having a career + marriage + children that would mean that I had "made it". Realizing at age 20 that that isn't how it works and that emotional scars last forever even if you have a good marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:24 AM
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It's completely unremarkable to me because it's something that you see literally all the time. Like, look at people at the mall or on public transit or at the park or whatever and you WILL see a "less attractive" guy with a woman. Out of all the heterosexual couples that I've known personally and the ones I've seen on social media, a good 75-85% of them are fairly equal to each other in looks. 15-25% of them have a more attractive woman (although usually the difference still isn't extreme). The …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:16 AM
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How long? (Duration) Until orgasm, I assume. How long? (Inches) Does that honestly make a difference? I'm pretty sure you can suck a dick without deepthroating it. Swallowing? Never thought about it that deeply, but I don't see why it "wouldn't count" if you spat. I mean, you still did it, so you'd get the money, right? Thats not a simple question for a straight man It's not even a simple question for a straight woman- the exchange of money makes it a moral issue (probably even for women who wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:43 AM
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So I was just watching a stand-up routine and the comic made fun of the "how much money would you suck a dick for" gag that's popular among male comedians, so Q4All: how much money would a guy have to pay you for you to suck his dick? I honestly don't even know what my answer to this question is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:30 AM
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Wow, that is a LOT of assumptions about women from someone who is not themselves a woman. Not even going to dignify this with a response. Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:16 PM
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Studies at least partially disagree with that Do you have a source on this? There was a thread on here asking women why they don't want the guy that hits on every girl, and predictably, even when women answered "because it's obvious that he just wants to get laid by anyone with a vagina and he doesn't care about me as a person at all" men turned it into "because he's a loser if all those other women shot him down and I'm only attracted to winners". If that were the case, women would want the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:34 PM
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Nope, you should sleep with him if you want to sleep with him. If you have sex with any guy hoping it'll make him fall in love with you, you kinda deserve to be made fun of, yeah. This contradicts what you said earlier. You said "he can't know if he wants a relationship with you until he sleeps with you, you might be the type of girl he wants". Meaning, "he might fall in love with you after sleeping with you". I'm going to make fun of you for having sex with "Chad" for any reason at all, but bon…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:16 PM
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He was probably trying to make you jealous! That is a possibility. There was another rumor of "indeterminate origin" from the year before that I'm 80% sure he was the source of (this one was about us having had sex, and it was only a few weeks after his first confession to me, so we were freshmen and I was a "saving myself" type at the time. Apparently he confronted my "frenemy" about making up a rumor that he and I had had sex, but she had never said anything of the sort, so he confronted her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:34 AM
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Think about it like this: if you saw your boyfriend talking to a girl the same way these guys were talking to you, what would you think? If he was just having normal conversations with her about movies or their classes or whatever, I wouldn't care. My boyfriend did talk to the other girls in our social circle in this way and I didn't care (although someone apparently started a rumor of indeterminate origin that I was jealous? This was in high school, but even so, it had never occured to me befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:23 PM
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pursuing doesn't make much difference if they are comfortable in asking out girls and teh better he is at it the more likely he sees her as hole. It's not about how socially adept he is, it's about whether he sees her as being worth the effort. There are a lot of guys who, assuming everyone involved is a consenting adult, will sleep with any woman who makes herself available as long as she's not completely hideous. That sort of low-grade "attraction" doesn't mean anything and can't even really b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:40 PM
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If he's talking to you, he's probably into you. You're making it weird by assuming otherwise Even the guys that are in other relationships? The guys that I can't even discern the sexual orientation of (enough Gen Zers are LGBTQ+ that you have to make sure)? The guys who have never expressed romantic interest in me at all and whose conversations with me are exclusively about our major, books, politics, or things that are equally mundane? I'd say the more obvious the flirting, the more likely he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:15 PM
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Huh? A fat woman in gym wear is just going to look even more fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:26 AM
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I commented before I even watched the video, but now that I've seen it... bro, the shorts that she's wearing are cycling shorts. They're not like those pictures you linked. Male cyclists wear shorts of the same tightness and length. Is that just for female attention? Just because she wasn't on a bike at the moment of filming doesn't mean that she wasn't going to get on an exercise bike later (she appeared to be stretching in the video so it was probably the beginning of her workout). The only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:23 AM
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Men lift perfectly fine without having their ass exposed. No one's ass is exposed at the gym. That's indecent exposure and it's illegal. It is laughable that women insist these clothes are necessary for lifting. I was thinking more in terms of cardio, but no one who's going to do cardio later is going to wear a different outfit for the "lifting" portion of their workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:51 AM
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My mistake. You still missed the point being made, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:48 AM
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My dad actually showed me some YouTuber's reaction video to this and asked me for my thoughts. I completely agree that this was a massive overreaction, but the woman in the reaction video (who has serious pickme vibes) parroted the "women only wear tight clothes to the gym for attention" line. Like... what do y'all expect people to wear that won't limit their range of motion? Either tight long pants or loose short pants. No one's going running in fucking culottes. If the man in the video had act…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:44 AM
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You said "green lipstick isn't a thing". It clearly is. I can find green/blue/purple lipstick at my local beauty supply. Sure, usually green lipstick is worn as part of a costume (stage, cosplay, Halloween, etc.), but it exists. And there are other shades of lipstick that are just as ubiquitous as red (pink, coral, beige, even some shades of purple). I seldom see women wearing red lipstick in public either, since most women aren't putting on any shade of lipstick to go to the grocery store or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:36 AM
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To say that I've gotten mixed feedback about my looks over the years would be an understatement, but most of the time, I "play it safe" and assume that the guy that's being nice is actually just being nice. I don't know whether this is the result of being bullied in school (therefore thinking that no boy/man would ever be interested in me as anything other than a prank or a last resort) or not, but it definitely plays a strong role. There were several incidents over the years that I looked back …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:19 AM
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That's why green lipstick isn't a thing but you have 2 million shades of red. https://www.google.com/search?q=green+lipstick&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&prmd=sinv&sxsrf=ALiCzsYaBSjedQnMB7wmpOtu49-mfAwbQQ:1655185849835&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqiffkn6z4AhVTjYkEHeaRDI0Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=360&bih=617&dpr=3 You were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:51 AM
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But there's a difference between "eh, I hypothetically would if she wanted to, a hole's a hole" and "I want her and am going to pursue her", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:44 AM
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Unwanted advances is up to personal discretion. You are the only one who takes it to mean only physically unattractive. I think you've missed my point. I'm saying that it DOESN'T solely mean advances from someone who's physically unattractive. Therefore, "it's only creepy if he's ugly" is NOT what it means. What you just typed IS my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:23 PM
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Unwanted advances is up to personal discretion. You are the only one who takes it to mean only physically unattractive. I think you've missed my point. I'm saying that it DOESN'T solely mean advances from someone who's physically unattractive. Therefore, "it's only creepy if he's ugly" is NOT what it means. What you just typed IS my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:23 PM
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Once again.... what makes something "wanted" VS "Unwanted", in the definition of sexual harassment? The answer is personal perception. I literally just said that "unwanted advances" is not the same as "advances from someone who is physically unattractive". Advances from someone who is physically attractive can be unwanted for a number of reasons. If the advances are wanted, they don't need to be done repeatedly because the target would be receptive the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:09 PM
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I never said you could not like a person for reasons other than them being physically attracted. Not liking the person is a vague statement for a reason. So "it's only creepy if he's ugly" is untrue. Also a shitty way to excuse/defend sexual harrassment, as though it's the (female) victim's fault for not "being fair" to the (male) harasser by being receptive to his advances. Yes, women want sexual attention from men they're attracted to and don't from men they aren't attracted to. Do men treat 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:24 PM
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Well going by the definition of Sexual Harassment. This is about employment law. This thread is (mostly) talking about situations with strangers in public, not with co-workers on the job. It's only sexual harassment if you don't like the person. You can not like a person for reasons other than them being physically unattractive to you. For example, because they think that "nice ass" is an appropriate way to start a conversation. ...is that why men on here say shit like "women think that 99% of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:56 PM
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I wouldn't even consider commiting unless I already am having sex with her. Exactly. That's why your advice doesn't make sense. No one is going to meet the parents before having sex outside of hyper-traditional communities. Also feel free to take that stance of superiority and show it up your ass. I had more then enough relationships for my age. Where did I ever say that you don't have relationship experience? Someone sounds insecure. Why are you giving advice that contradicts your own experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:10 AM
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Ask him to meet your family, because guys which do want a relationship will most likely not be excited about it. Guys which just want sex would rather drag their balls over broken glass then meet your father. Bro, are you imagining meeting the family 2 months into the relationship or are you imagining waiting 2 years for sex? Because unless you're a religious fundamentalist waiting until marriage, "have sex" usually comes long before "meet the family" AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:59 AM
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So do you push back when men here say that most men will fuck literally any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:06 PM
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This means that they find her sexually desirable. That is not meaningless. Don't you guys always say that "men will fuck anything"? By this logic, if Chad wants to have sex with Becky because she's easy to get and he doesn't feel like having to woo Stacy, does that mean something to Becky? Because you can't have it both ways. Sexual attention from men is either meaningful or it's not. Most men don’t get that much, some not even from their own wives. It's insane to say that "most" (more than 50% …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:45 PM
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I know, right? Clearly we're all just sluts who are slightly quirky and are acting out for attention! I know that's why I put myself through a hellish school experience, nearly failed out of college, and delayed my graduation by two years. For attention. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:55 PM
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I get that not all women constantly get compliments, but find it hard to believe that most women don’t get compliments some of the time. From their friends and family, maybe. And truly unattractive women don't even get that, or it's obvious that the compliments are just out of pity. You're imagining the compliments as actually meaning something, because if you got compliments you would take them have an indicator of your desirability. Women KNOW that other women will give compliments they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:49 PM
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There is -IMO- a huge selection bias for these online spaces, not to mention a socially reinforced culture on these subreddits that encourage the types of questions and responses you mention Yeah, it's people who seem to have NO social experience at all (like, even I, with my minimal social experience, know that this isn't how things work) and think that the porn they watch is a documentary. So they project that onto literally everything. I remember reading posts on r/relationship_advice like 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:43 PM
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It's like they don't realize that neurodivergent women even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:14 PM
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How is that true, when women get 100 times more compliments than men? At least for their looks and attractiveness. Not all women constantly get compliments like this. If you have low self-esteem, the compliments don't actually mean anything. Our brains hold onto negative feedback and ignore positive feedback. And we know that the compliments usually DON'T mean anything- that it's just our friends trying to be nice or some guy trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:12 PM
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I agree with this. A lot of men on here think that women are like queens sitting on a throne as suitors prostrate themselves in front of us for just a moment of our affection, but it doesn't work that way. They're imagining the young, white, UMC, neurotypical, extroverted Stacies that every other guy wants and completely ignoring the experiences of the rest of us. If a woman doesn't have many men approaching her, or any valid options (meaning people who are offering to actually get to know her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:08 AM
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It's difficult to do the "right" thing here, because if you underestimate romantic interest it's "you're not stupid, you know that every guy wants to fuck, that's the only reason they ever talk to a woman unless they have to" and if you overestimate it's "you're a delusional narcissist, you're not even that pretty but think you're a 10, you're a misandrist who thinks that all guys want to do is fuck". I really don't think men are such simple creatures that they're only motivated by the call of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:36 AM
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Or they're not the same people to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:17 AM
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I understand how sex is a need (for allosexuals, aces are obviously excluded from this) in an adult romantic relationship. Most people crave sex from their partner. If I was in a relationship with someone I was into, I would want the relationship to escalate to sex within a couple of months. I don't understand how sex is a need outside of a relationship and how some people practically go crazy if they don't have it for 2 months. Yeah, if you don't get off for a certain period of time, you're goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:46 PM
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I can provide a source saying there’s no nerve endings past the entrance of the vagina to make childbirth significantly less painful if you’d like lol. ...why do you think dildos exist if penetration doesn't feel like anything? It took until last year for me to be able to feel anything from (self-)penetration for some reason, but I'm pretty sure it was a psychological block preventing me from feeling anything before. If you're not trolling, that might be what's going on with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:36 PM
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Is there a way we can report him? Does this qualify as harrassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:44 AM
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You can find astrology interesting without taking it seriously. IME there's a non-zero correlation between people's birth charts and their personalities, but I'm not one of those people that's like, "Sorry, our twelfth houses are incompatible, this won't work out." It's mostly the meme subreddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:20 AM
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He started saying some shit about "my alts" saying that I cheated on my husband because he wasn't willing to sexually explore and I was like.... no, my alt clearly says I'm in my early 20s and have minimal relationship experience (and it's mostly about clothes, astrology, and U.S. politics anyway). He said something about "I hope you enjoy burgers with your AP" and I couldn't tell whether he was wildly misinterpreting a story I told on here (missing the fact that it was high school and there was…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:53 AM
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I have literally never known a couple where the man was significantly more attractive. Not family, not classmates, no one. It's like 75% they're pretty equally yoked and 25% the woman is (slightly) more attractive. Yeah, yeah, "Chads don't commit to ugly women and just fuck them"... but then do these guys seriously thinks that no one enters a committed LTR before 30 (because the women are all casually fucking the top men and every other man is an incel)? Highschool and college sweethearts are st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:43 AM
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u/purplish_possum why the fuck did that guy mention us in an unrelated thread? What the hell is he talking about? He must think I'm some other person, but why is he doing it in a subreddit unrelated to this one that I've never commented in in my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:38 AM
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I've seen a lot of people on here (and elsewhere) who have a very skewed sense of risk assessment- if something doesn't lead to a dangerous outcome 100% of the time, that means it isn't dangerous and you never have to take precautions because everyone must be lying about how dangerous it is! Which isn't how danger works. Most people who drive drunk/speed/drive without their seatbelts on never get into a serious accident. Most people who go around having unprotected sex don't contract HIV. Most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:41 AM
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They shouldn't an emotional impact on you. If you truly didn't care about them and you truly didn't vibe with them. Which should be the case since you women get the ick so easily. Dude, if I had "the ick" for those guys I wouldn't sleep with them in the first place. I wouldn't sleep with someone that I didn't vibe with and was aware that I didn't vibe with at the time that I decided to sleep with them. Why would I do that? We're not talking about going on 49 bad first dates (although that too wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:11 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:40 PM
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The number of other adult virgins who seemingly have zero motivation to do anything in life unless it will somehow directly lead to getting a partner/getting laid is disappointing. Men and women. Y'all don't want to look good to have more confidence? Y'all don't want to get good educations/good jobs so that you don't have to worry about where your next meal is coming from? Y'all don't want to join hobbies to have something interesting to do and possibly make friends? It has to somehow lead to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:35 PM
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If I tried doing this in my own country I would have been beaten bloody if not just outright killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:29 PM
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...have you been reading the thread that we're commenting in? People defending sexual harrassment is fairly frequent, they just obviously don't CALL it "sexual harrassment". "Women are too neurotic! It's just a nice guy trying to talk to you, that doesn't mean he's a rapist!" "It's only creepy if he's ugly! You'd love it if he looked like Henry Cavill!" "Who cares if some old guy looked at you when you were a child? Sexual assault is a lot rarer!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:19 PM
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Some people have this logic even in non-dating situations and it's annoying as fuck. Person: "Hey do you wanna do X?" Me: "I'd like to, but I don't have the money." Person: "It's fine, I'll cover for you." Me: "Are you sure? You don't have to do that..." Person: "It's fine, it's not a big deal." Me: "Okay, I guess..." And then later they hold it over your head or act like it gives them a free pass to be a dick because they spent like $50 on you. One time it was his parents' money, not even his, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:39 PM
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I don't think anyone (of either sex) should be posting nude or thirst trap pictures while in a relationship if their partner is not okay with it (a lot of people don't care). However, if you do care, and you get into a relationship with someone who posts thirst traps, and you expect them to magically change their ways once they're dating you... that's on you. It's like women who think that they can make a known fuckboy commit to them and live happily ever after. If you knew what they were like, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:16 PM
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What does that have to do with the argument? Because you said "men don't care about body count" as though I would be like "oh okay then I totally won't care if I end up fucking 49 shitty guys to get to the 50th if the 50th will still want me. Those 49 will have no emotional impact on me at all." Also if you don't want to have sex with shitty people, then vet them. The entire point of this argument was that "vetting" isn't the foolproof solution you think it is. I mean, how long do you envision "…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:16 PM
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this is the communication error that causes all the problems here on PPD. The question is are the women who respond that way doing it intentionally?.... or are they just that delusional that they think all men are doing all wrong all the time.... which then leads to the question.... do they have any male friends? have they related to men in anyway besides just romantically? The issue is with the state of discourse on here. The negative assumptions are about the men who ask these questions on PPD…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:47 PM
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Hitting on a woman could be considered sexual harrassment depending on who you are to her (ex: her boss), the environment (ex: at work) and/or how you do it (ex: making a blowjob joke). But unless you're in a position of power over her, you're not going to be criminally prosecuted unless you actually touch her (and even if you do both of those things you probably won't be prosecuted even if she does report).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:43 PM
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Again just because they're talking about it doesn't mean it will go through. But since they ARE talking about it, and we ARE moving in that direction, there IS a chance that this will happen. What it is with you and reading "there's a chance that this thing happens and it's worthy of being concerned about" as "this absolutely WILL happen 100% of the time"? It's not that I think it's that I know. Because I literally know people think like this and they actually don't go outside. And even when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:25 PM
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Most women aren't visually oriented for getting aroused. If there was porn that catered to women and it made money, it would exist. But it doesn't. ....you're aware that there are multiple female-run, female-centric porn sites that remain in business, right? That's also not even the point. The point is that men watch porn and learn to be selfish lovers because that's what porn shows, and they refuse to get it through their thick skulls that it isn't real and that the actresses aren't enjoying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:00 PM
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How many women have trouble orgasming while masturbating vs men? You can't just blame men when sex is in fact easier. ....you think that women can't orgasm or have trouble orgasming by ourselves? Why do women masturbate then? What's the point otherwise if not to have an orgasm? Gay men have the most frequent sex followed by hetero couples followed by lesbians. That's frequency of sex. Not frequency of orgasms. Lesbians have more orgasms that straight women to by far. Obviously the problem is str…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:51 PM
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Nope So if harem just mesns "multiple people who are all having sex with a specific person" and it doesn't matter if those multiple people are also havinv sex with others... if a woman is having sex with multiple "Chads", those "Chads" are her harem, right? Strawmanning These are both commonly held redpill beliefs, so I'll bite. Do you think that the average woman is so selective that she only has a single digit N-count because very few "Chads" are up to her standards? Because women cannot be bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:36 PM
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Can one Chad shapeshift into different Chads? Because that's the only way a woman can be "in a harem" and "riding the cock carousel" at the same time. I assume you're just trolling at this point, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:20 PM
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So he looks like Adam Driver? Not quite "AEPi guy" or "character from my book" but that's basically just because of age. Those guys are probably going to age to look somewhat like that (if they are lucky/disciplined). I'm so used to hearing "not conventionally attractive" as a synonym for "ugly" that I was like uhhh what's unattractive about either of those descriptors? I guess you meant "unconventionally attractive", which is an underutilized descriptor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:18 AM
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So only men 9.5 or above ever get to have sex until the age of 30 when the "lower" "beta" males start getting settled for by desperate post-wall single moms? If you do believe this... do you know any young couples? Even just casually? Any at all? Also, if women are in "harems" of the top 5% of men, how are they simultaneously riding the "cock carousel" and racking up insane N-counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:12 AM
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I suppose that my cousins would be considered "sexually unsuccessful" to you guys. I know that the oldest didn't have his first kiss until age 20 and didn't have sex until age 22. He's very tall (like 6'5", our whole family is giants), and I guess he would be considered somewhat good looking? I obviously can't really tell since he just looks like every other man on that side of the family. When I was a child I thought he was super cool (he's 8 years older than me), so I was genuinely surprised w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:09 AM
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I did the math and, if you define "Chad" as top 20%, that's 25,313,400 "Chads" in the U.S. (20% of the adult male population). Any woman who doesn't live in the middle of nowhere is going to encounter way more than one of them in her "alpha fux" years, and since literally any man will fuck literally any woman according to y'all she shouldn't have an issue "getting" them if she wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:50 AM
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This isn't what "harem" means. Harem is exclusive. Anyone who is exclusively sleeping with someone who isn't exclusively sleeping with them is an idiot, and most women have more self-respect that that. Women cannot be in "harems" and also racking up triple digit N counts like you guys think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:44 AM
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Is this even possible? This doesn't seem possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:37 AM
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Oscar is your typical high school chad, I'm presuming both of these guys are at the very least out of high school, right? Because a "high school chad" ceases to be attractive to me the minute I find out he's in high school. Just because way too many 22 year old guys see no problem dating high school girls doesn't make it not creepy, genders flipped or not. Jeffrey is a social akward type extrovert, he's not afraid to blend in with the background and he's definitely a go with the flow type of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:35 AM
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He's not conventionally attractive. Looks like a typical Jewish guy, about 5'11. I mean, "typical Jewish guy, about 5'11" sounds conventionally attractive to me, but that might be because I'm imagining the AEPi boys at my university and/or the main character of my book. Glad for you though 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:28 AM
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What girls are rated an 8 and who the hell is calling Henry Cavill average? Just FYI, "I wouldn't sleep with him" doesn't translate to "he isn't objectively good looking". And I presume you mean the women here, not the men, when I was talking about the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:16 PM
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I said ON HERE. Not in the entire world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:58 PM
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Listen buddy, I DO have a spine, just not the sweat to help people I don't care about. So if your friends were harassing a woman, that's fine because you don't care about her, someone who has done literally nothing to you? What about following her? Touching her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:39 PM
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Natural population growth and immigration of people that share values instead of just skills are what I'm pointing at And how do you screen for who "shares our values"? There is NO way that the way this is enforced won't be racist as hell. We have people who are just as anti-LGBT, anti-abortion, anti-equality, etc. as any Muslim who are right here in this country, right now, born and raised. But they have the right skin color and worship the right God, so their values are completely fine. Emerge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:24 AM
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(a lot of population growth in the west is from immigrants who are more likely to be anti-LGBT and anti-abortion. They make the objectification you speak of child's play). Oh, cool, white supremacist dogwhistles in an argument with a black person. "We need to keep replacing ~our~ population so that ~they~ don't take over!" I doubt I'm included in your definition of "our population", so I really don't give a flying fuck that you're afraid of becoming a minority. Luckily for you, we're not going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:31 AM
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You see this a lot with racial topics. There are black centric messageboards with way more nuanced debate which often skirts the line of political correctness, on Reddit you have this very surface level "tolerance" which often just reads like virtue signalling. If this is referring to site I'm thinking of, it's a complete cesspool. I've heard worse takes on there than I have on here, and THAT'S saying something. It might not be as viscerally offensive because they're not directed at my demograph…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:20 AM
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last week there was a post asking women if they wanted a relationship or a hookup and the women who answered they didn't want a relationship were aggressively attacked by users saying stuff like "who tf do you think you are". By men or by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:14 AM
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"Average" here means bottom 25th percentile. For men. An "average" man is an obese incel with very obvious autism while an "average" woman is a gorgeous woman with a large forehead or slightly crooked teeth. "Average women (read: Rihanna) don't want average men (read: Big Ed)!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:11 AM
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I know. We're in agreement. I was making a general point, not arguing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:02 AM
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I’d argue women’s treatment of men is contingent on their sexual desirability. Lol. No. This isn't true at all. Women are fully capable of admiring and respecting men that we have absolutely no desire to fuck. Unless I wanted to fuck President Obama and my 50+ years older criminal justice professor. If a man doesn’t find a woman to be attractive, he is indifferent to her, like another man. Also not at all true. That's what decent men do, sure, but for the ones who see women as fucktoys, a fuckto…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:50 AM
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I'm not just going to entertain someone, without any reciprocating. That's seems really stupid and is an even worse rate of return on your time than even video games I mean... yes. This has nothing to do with sex or gender dynamics. This is just a smart way to approach friendships and all other human relationships. Don't keep putting the work in if the other person isn't holding up their end of the bargain. The problem is that sometimes guys act like, by doing normal friendship things that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:36 AM
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I as a man, have no reason to look up or admire women. (Mainly because I’m not a women myself). We as men typically look up to other strong men. Yet women can look up to and admire men with no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:19 PM
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He even gave an example that didn’t require a specific present man: Women who post sensual videos on the internet. He believes those women get turned on by the positive sexual attention they get by many people. That's a small subset of women. There are tons of women who watch porn and/or read erotica and are turned on by it even though they don't personally factor into it at all. Might OP be wrong? Sure, but I’ve heard the idea that being desired is arousing from women themselves. Of course it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:18 PM
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This doesn't mean that other human beings should be given out as an incentive for you to participate in society, which is really what this argument is about. "Young men are withdrawing from society because they're no longer being provided submissive virgin brides by birthright", with the implication that that makes it women's fault for not being submissive virgin brides anymore (or society's fault for not forcing them to be), reduces a full and complex human being with their own opinions, values…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:55 PM
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Does she not do things for him too? Or by "do things", do you mean providing sex? Normal platonic friends listen to each other vent. They do favors for each other (here's my old textbook for the class you're taking now, sure I'll lend you my lawnmower, etc.). They buy each other gifts for their birthdays/Christmas. They sometimes cover costs of food for each other, but most of the time the friend being paid for either Venmos the friend who's paying for their cost of the meal (so the paying frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:24 PM
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I’m always left wondering, “Do these women not understand what it’s like to feel lesser than in the presence of a man who rejects them?” I mean, I was rejected by a guy and decided not to join the activity that I met him at (well, there were greater issues than just the rejection since my friend and I basically ruined a party by being walking dumpster fires, but still), so I definitely understand this. I don't think that having someone around who obviously has lingering feelings is a good experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:12 PM
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...except...more money... for yourself...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:16 PM
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...because people are in monogamous relationships, don't want to deal with the social complications of fucking their friends, or hell, just aren't attracted to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:25 AM
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A big driver of chasing jobs and working longer hours is to support somone. So are men less incentivized to work now that women have own own careers and don't need to be supported unless you have children with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:22 AM
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Yes, but I think u/januaryphilosopher was using "manipulation" to refer to blackmail/threats, since she said it wouldn't be considered cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:33 PM
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I said it's rational. I don't care whether it's "okay" or not. As far as I know, there is no school of ethical philosophy that says that causing suffering to others is "rational". If you don't care whether it's "okay", well, it's also "rational" for a homeless person to kill you in order to take your house. Except there's nothing "rational" about it. It's based on pure selfish emotion (envy). At that point it is probably varies person to person, but there would still be a sizeable portion of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:31 PM
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All you’ve done here is compare alarmist, extreme fears. Worrying about being pumped & dumped is "alarmist" when it happens all the time and is practically a rite of passage for teenage girls and young women? Worrying about infidelity is "alarmist" when 1 in 5 men cheat? Worrying about sexist men is "alarmist" when there's clearly an overwhelming abundance of them, as noted by the existence of this very subreddit we are posting on? Which is logical? Getting to know someone and trusting your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:09 PM
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Also rational, if that child is happier because of it. So it's okay to take something away from other people if it would make you happier? Is it okay for me to rob you and take your money if more money would make me happier? My godfather is wealthy and my godsisters had more stuff growing up than I could ever have dreamt of, and as a teenager I was upset about it, so would it have been okay for me to steal or destroy my godsisters' things if it would have made me happier? Not really, because tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:19 PM
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Parents are not unbiased reporters and children are not objective observers. Yes, but that's all children have to go off of. People aren't blank slates with no opinions on anything until it personally affects us. I had an opinion on abortion before I was even physiologically capable of getting pregnant- because one day I would be. I have opinions on healthcare even though I'm still on my dad's insurance- because 2-3 years from now I won't be. I have opinions on things that will never affect me p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:58 PM
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Oh my God, grow the fuck up. This is some "child didn't get toy they wanted, smashes their sibling's toy" bullshit right here. This is like if I got mad at movies and ads talking about prom season because I didn't go to prom. Or thought that sororities should be abolished because I tried to rush one and didn't get in. Or got mad when people older than 15 went out in public with their mothers when I didn't have a mother past 15. Envy is a part of life. You're responsible for dealing with your own…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:40 PM
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What sense does this make when a purely capitalistic system is going to screw you over? The only thing I can think of is that these folks think that they're "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" and want to enact their revenge fantasies when the nonexistent day comes that they're on top. That was the case with all the kids in my high school that were libertarians. They all thought they were going to be rich by 30 and didn't want the gub'mint taking away their hypothetical wealth. Or they had pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:34 PM
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I think this is supposed to mean "women in abusive situations deserve more empathy and help than men who can't get laid". A lot of misogynistic men try to conflate the two with some "not having sex with someone when they want to is just as bad as having sex with someone when they don't want to" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:27 PM
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With regards to dating, sex, and marriage? Absolutely. You realize that we don't live in bubbles and we don't need to personally experience something to know it exists, right? People have family members, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. and can extrapolate based on what they see from those people. That's how children/adolescents form opinions about the world before actually experiencing anything. They watch their parents. "We" means men too, btw. My cousin, like me, has little if any dating e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:21 PM
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That was nowhere in the comment you replied to. Nowhere did she say "well sometimes men make their girlfriends mad and they cheat, she's just a flawed person, you can't blame her 🥺" She made a definitive statement regarding both sexes and you were like "women b bitches tho". The "humans are flawed and temptation exists" seems to ONLY exist when it's a man cheating. Surely his GF/wife must have been nagging him or let herself go or wasn't giving him enough sex so it's somehow her fault. But if a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:51 PM
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That's not the point being made. He said: What I meant is that men don't need to feel desired to be sexually excited. Why do you think men consume so much porn? My point is that women don't need to actively be "feeling desired" by a specific, real, present man in order to be sexually excited. That's absurd. Women read erotica in much higher numbers than men and erotica doesn't make women "feel desired" either. We aren't sexless lambs until some guy comes along and "unlocks" us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:19 AM
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So if a man acts like an asshole and his girlfriend feels "exasperated, overwhelmed, unloved, or taken for granted", and she seeks comfort in the arms of another man... that's fine because she's just a flawed human, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:07 AM
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Bruh what? "Manipulation" is just a way to make seduction sound bad. I think "manipulation" here is supposed to mean blackmail/threats, or using substances to incapacitate a person to the point where they can't fight back or protest. Those scenarios are rape. It's not "she was seduced".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:58 AM
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Show me where in that post she said that she wants men to be raped or killed. I could find multiple screenshots of incels saying that about women within 30 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:39 AM
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I think this person's account got hacked or something. She used to be somewhat sane but has now gone off the MAGA deep end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:36 AM
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Sometimes it's with experience, sometimes it's with age. Typically as people get older they're less willing to bend and "compromise" to fit someone else's standards. If someone reaches the age of 30 with zero romantic experience they're going to approach relationships as though they were a teenager (with additional desperation and insecurity from going without one for so long). It's like how if a feral child is rescued at 13, they're not going to be literate, because they never learned to read a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:46 PM
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If the other person is shit, why stay one second more? Because you often can't tell "okay this person is shit" until it's already gotten quite bad. If your partner is late for a date or forgets to take out the trash or something, do you immediately leap to "this person is shit and I need to leave this relationship"? No. When the problem first appears, you think it's minor and/or fixable, and it's only after it escalates over months or years that you realize that it isn't. This is such a misunder…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:35 PM
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I knew, and I answered them with the intention of demonstrating the point I was making to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:21 PM
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Yes, but obviously it's going to suck that that companionship is gone and you're going to be upset that you got emotionally invested in this person. Also, it's not always "the other person doesn't want to be there". Often the other person DOES want to be there, but only on their fucked up terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:39 PM
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Most people have had more than 1 serious and long term relationship. By a certain age most people are seasoned enough to know what will and won't work. And what if you don't have that experience? I mean, the only way to get experience is to get experience, and I obviously don't have a time machine to go back and do it at a younger age. But this was something that I noticed among my peers as a teenager. They would fling themselves headfirst into a relationship, and it would be like a candle that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:37 PM
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...huh? By "extract something out of them", do you mean companionship? Because if so, yes, companionship is why people have relationships with other people and it's a sunk cost if you emotionally invest in a person for months or years and then you lose that companionship. If the reason you lost it was that they turned out to be an asshole, you wasted months/years on an asshole. You gave that asshole your time, your care, your body, your resources... of course you're going to care about input.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:38 PM
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Yes, I know, but it's not easy to just walk away from something or someone that you've invested months or years into. You're going to try everything you can to make it work before you just up and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:11 PM
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There's a difference between arguing and having political support and viability to put something into law. People were saying the same thing about overturning Roe not even 10 years ago. Legislators are already proposing bills to ban IUDs and other "abortifacents" and you don't think this has a risk of happening? It won't affect ME in MY state unless it gets to the federal level, but I go to school in another state where this is much more likely to happen and there are also millions of women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:04 PM
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So I've had several discussions in the past day where "just dump someone if they don't meet your standards or desires, regardless of how long you've been with them" came up, and I wondered, do these people not realize that emotional investment and sunk cost are a thing? That got me thinking about myself, and how, for whatever reason, it takes me a really long time to emotionally process experiences. I don't know whether this has to do with ADHD or not, but for example, when I was in high school,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:39 PM
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no, but it's something that happened earlier and was (almost always) just a benign whistle and a joke between workers when they take a break and drink some beer "It happened earlier"? Earlier than what? What does this have to do with anything? I've been actually approached by a construction worker that was supposed to be on duty, btw. I was 17 and wearing a backpack a block away from my high school. He claimed he was 33 but he had graying hair. This was in March IIRC, so I guess the sweater, jea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:09 PM
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there is quite a difference, noone expects people to be provoked by glasses of wine, everyone knows that some men are easily sexually provoked Everyone knows how common alcoholism is as well. most of those men are mentally ill/low class street scum that are more believable to rob or pickpocket you (with injuries) It's definitely not all homeless crack addicts that do this. It's a disproportionate number, sure, but we were talking about construction workers initially. Are they "low class street s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:54 PM
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Bro what's with this fear mongering? Totally just fear mongering. Not like this is a standard part of pro-life beliefs that legislators are currently arguing about (see second hyperlink). What are you talking about? Men absolutely face social backlash for informally having kids. Have you never heard the term of "dead beat dad" before I didn't say men don't face social backlash. I said women do. This is not a zero sum game. Both things can be true at the same time. Also what's the societal ills a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:46 PM
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Because I don't know him and being touched at all by a stranger, let alone intimately, is incredibly uncomfortable. I'd have to be absolutely blasted drunk/drugged and be thinking "at least I'm finally losing my virginity, someone wants to have sex with me, I'm normal" the entire time, and then take like 3 years to emotionally process the experience. Because he doesn't talk. He's basically a human dildo/sex doll at that point. Because I only get to have sex with him once and never again. If he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:31 PM
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No. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:02 PM
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Men on the internet do not represent all men in real life. Stop listening to men on the internet and actually look around in the real world. There are millions of women who have high body counts and still are in relationships. Even IF men in the real world never care about body count... maybe I don't want to share an incredibly intimate experience with a bunch of shitty or dangerous people? Did you ever think of that? You literally have the biggest selection biased here. Of course people who go …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:56 PM
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Fixed that for you. Since you seem to want an LTR, not really a problem, is it? Do you think this problem never happens in LTRs? You can't know whether someone is bad at sex until you've had sex with them, whether you wait 3 hours after meeting them or 3 years. In fact, if you end up in an LTR with someone like this, you're even more screwed because now you've put months of investment into a relationship and you don't really wanna leave just because the sex is bad, do you? Isn't that shallow? Is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:30 PM
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you are comparing sexuality with alcoholism, those are not comparable They're both impulses, and in both situations the blame is being placed on the person that "provoked" the impulse rather than the person who didn't control their impulse like any adult should be expected to. yes you can of course, just don't complain that you attract "wrong" guys It's not about "ew a 5'8" guy told me I look nice! What a creep!" It's about men who harass women and approach them in a disrespectful manner. It's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:20 PM
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Take out a loan then if you really want to have your own kids that badly and want to face no social consequences. Nah, I'll be fine getting an IUD and having it taken out once I want children. That is, if IUDs don't get outlawed or health insurance stops covering them because they're "abortifacents". Also just LOL that because men have to pay several hundred dollars a month for their children women "face no social consequences" for having kids. What do you think RAISING A KID is, sunshine and ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:13 PM
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TIL women don't watch porn and I secretly have a dick The rules for an imaginary scenario are different from the rules for a real scenario, dude. You don't think women ever get horny when no man we're attracted to is physically present and "making us feel desired" at that moment? Why is erotica a thing then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:51 PM
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anything that doesn't invoke attention Again, I've been harassed in a puffy coat and sweatpants. As a 16 year old. With no makeup on. I guess my school sweatpants really invoked attention, huh? it's really not comparable situation How? nah, the "wheelbarrow full of money" would be your body which would be made to look attractive, if you dress modestly and watch your own business it would be just a wheelbarrow without money So we can't look attractive and have to "dress modestly" because men migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:47 PM
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What if a girl lies to you about being on birth control and baby traps you? Wear a condom. What if a gold digger takes advantage of your wealth only to end up divorcing you later? Don't date women who are much younger/don't have careers/act shallow and materialistic. What if your wife cheats on you? Don't marry someone with a history of infidelity/suspicious behavior. What if I walk down the street and get robbed? Don't walk through secluded areas at night if at all possible. Carry pepper spray …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:42 PM
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who cares what men would be happy with , if all women decided to do this, men would have no choice but to accept the new norm, in fact I highly encourage all women to do this Seriously? You're okay with having to wait years, possibly even for marriage, to have sex? Riiiiiiiiiiight. Not even women want to wait that long. Also, 3.5 billion people are never going to all make a collective decision. We're not a hivemind. This is as useful as telling men collectively to stop raping. The only ones who …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:17 PM
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there are levels to it, I have female friends that dress normal and almost never encounter unwanted sexual attention from men What's "dressing normal" to you? When I was younger I got harassed while wearing a puffy jacket and sweatpants. Now it happens the first time I put on on my favorite pair of mom shorts (so, not tight or revealing at all) every summer. Creeps are going to be creeps regardless of what a woman wears. they do, but some men are going to act on it, that's why we have laws that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:03 PM
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Yeah, and that 10 year old is supposed to somehow know that she isn't about to become the next Jaycee Dugard even though "stranger danger" is all she knows. Women and girls apparently automatically know which boys/men are harmless and which ones aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:47 AM
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Ask. Literally. Ask. This is how I can tell you have virtually zero idea what you're talking about. Women I've matched with and I have discussed protection. That's how mature adults communicate. And, of course, men never ever lie, especially not when sex is on the table. "Stealthing" isn't a thing and there wasn't a discussion on here mere days ago with guys bragging about finding ways to override their partner's previously stated boundaries of using protection. Women lie about everything under …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:27 AM
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Dude go outside and stop listening to red pillers. The majority of dudes dont care about your body count. Could have fucking fooled me with how much these guys insist that if a woman has casual sex even once she is an irredeemable whore who must give casual sex to any man who asks forever and that "all men" care about body count. This is by no means limited to this subreddit. Go to r/relationship_advice and search the term "body count". Also why do you always use the most ridiculous rare outlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:11 AM
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Well if both partners are equally willing to please one another. It's much easier to please a guy. Because you have external sexual organs. Duh. If you repeatedly keep meeting guys who are only ramming you with their 8 inch dicks and don't want to use their mouths/fingers, that's clearly on you for choosing the shittiest men. Sorry. I'm having this exact same argument elsewhere right now- how the fuck is a woman supposed to tell that a guy is bad in bed prior to sleeping with him? Do we have mag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:52 AM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:41 AM
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Then freeze your eggs. A procedure that costs tens of thousands of dollars and isn't covered by insurance at all. Super feasible for the average young person! /s That's fine, but then the onus is on you to present a study(evidence) that the majority of doctors will not sterilize a childless young woman. This is such common knowledge that it shouldn't even need to be said- look at r/childfree- but here are some articles about it. You do, I dont know why you're being sarcastic here. Have you never…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:38 AM
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It's not men's fault women are wired this way. "It's women's fault that they don't gush like faucets from being rammed with an 8 inch dick without lube! The women in porn do, so clearly every woman I've ever slept with is the problem, not me! What's the clitoris? Is that like a new video game or something?" Men orgasm because it's easy for them. It sure is easy to orgasm when the entirety of sex is about your pleasure and your partner's pleasure is just an additional bonus if it happens at all. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:08 AM
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Either way like I’m just a chill girl so I’m not going to go crazy over “nice tits” no matter how many ways you try to angle it to be offensive. It’s just not that serious. Sure. You're such a cool girl. You're not like all those other bitches who can't take a little light sexual harrassment. /s I really hope you get picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:03 AM
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Well if they don't want to be taught then move on to the next guy. So if women are nexting every guy that's bad in bed, how exactly are we supposed to keep our body counts low? Just hope we get lucky the first 1-5 times and resign ourselves to spinsterhood if we don't? If you are that scared of all of this happening than dont make that person your primary support system. Create your own support system and find ways to make yourself financially stable and dont depend on others. Great. I won't. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:42 AM
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If we’re basing this off of my lived experiences, the guy telling me this isn’t a creep and he’s being funny. I don’t take things too seriously so I’d just laugh in response. Most men I interact with are mutual friends from college within our friend group and sometimes we all like to go to a nice bar to catch up? You're moving the goalposts. My original question specifically said "stranger or loose acquaintance". Not "close friend of several years clearly making a joke". Me: You wouldn't mind a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:24 AM
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Then adopt. I, like most people, want at least one biological child of my own. I may adopt after that or if it turns out that I can't have my own children. Not true, most doctors will still help a women become sterlie. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3005997/#:\~:text=RESULTS,would%20discourage%20a%20G4P3%20woman. In all of the scenarios referenced in the study, the woman was married, past the age of complete brain development, and had already given birth at least once. Not at all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:19 AM
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You cant know but you can always teach your partner to be better. A LOT of men don't want to be "taught". They think that they're sex gods because they have big dicks and that if their partner doesn't have a screaming orgasm from being jackhammered it's her fault because obviously the women in porn can! If somebody does this then leave the relationship. And of course, this is super easy to do when you've moved in with someone, may have have even moved away from your primary support system for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:00 AM
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Because saying “nice tits” is generally seen as socially unacceptable, any guy telling me this is being humorous. And such "humor" might be acceptable in certain friendships. Not from strangers. It's the same way that you can tell your best friend to shut the fuck up "humorously" but you can't say that to someone you're just meeting. I’d imagine this would be said to me while I’m out socializing, and I would laugh. Because I have a sense of humor. Again, this is not a person you're socializing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:52 AM
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Also you can always just get your tubes tied if you're really that scared of pregnancy I want children in the future. No doctor is sterilizing a 22 year old with no kids. There's no way I could afford such a procedure. or tell your partner to get a vasectomy. I want children in the future. That would be a fucked up thing to ask of someone who isn't on the same page- even if I didn't want kids, we might break up and he might want kids with some other woman in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:45 AM
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How are you supposed to know someone is bad in bed before you've slept with them? Domestic abuse usually starts years or at least one year into a relationship. Narcissists "lovebomb" for the first few months. Again, they wait until their victim is emotionally invested in them and then gradually turn up the dial of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:34 AM
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Unless you live under a rock, you know that the draft of the Supreme Court ruling got leaked last month. Rulings are usually officially handed down at the end of June, so I estimated 3 weeks. Texas 6 week abortion ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:31 AM
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Lol no it isn't a stretch, that's most of the men saying shit like "nice tits" to women on the street. Even "regular" creeps (the ones that aren't off their antipsychotics and/or on 15 different street drugs) aren't that blatant about it. Generally speaking.. it’s a go. So instead of an old homeless man, it's an old non-homeless man in the grocery store. It's a go? Or are you imagining someone you've been eyeing in a bar coming up and saying it (which is still creepy as fuck)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:29 AM
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Yeah, for a whole 3 more weeks. And Texas still passed a 6 week abortion ban. It's not technically constitutional, but that's why the case overturning Roe made it to the Supreme Court.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:23 AM
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there are other ways of vetting than inviting guys over your house the first night and having sex with them. Duh. That's why women with more than 2 brain cells don't do that. But the point was that you have no idea whether a guy is shitty in bed (at best) or an abusive psychopath (at worst) until he's shown you in some manner, and most dudes aren't going to make either of those things apparent until a woman is already good and trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:20 AM
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So if a homeless man 20+ years older than you told you "nice tits", you'd enjoy the compliment? Honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:17 AM
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Because one is non-sexual and the other is sexual. Your uncle can tell you "nice hair", but he can't tell you "nice tits". If you're not a LARPing dude, you're imagining a man that you already want to fuck saying "nice tits", which isn't the scenario. It's a stranger. He may be hot, or he may not be, but he's a complete stranger. In the most likely scenario, he's 20+ years older than you and looks like he hasn't showered since 2012, and this is happening while you're on your way to the drugstore…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:04 AM
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You're avoiding the question. If you're so vary of men why do you care about dating them? Being wary of men doesn't mean that I don't talk to or acknowledge them. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy the company of some men, the same way I enjoy the company of some women. It means that I'm not going to go over to a strange man's house, invite him over to mine, get in a car with him, etc., and I'm not going to take the risk of engaging in an encounter with someone I know literally nothing about because …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:15 AM
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There's a big difference between "I like your hair" and "nice tits".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:01 AM
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So tell your friend to not do casual? I did. I told her not to download the app in the first place. She didn't listen, and because it's her life, there was nothing I could do. We were 18 and this happened one time. The scumbag can't steal your shit if you don't invite him over. You're making my point for me. "It's so easy to be a woman because you can get casual sex!" "But casual sex carries x, y, z risks." "Then don't do casual." Then how are our lives easier because we can get casual sex?!? Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:51 AM
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Men have bad sexual experiences too, this isn’t something special. You cannot know someone is bad at sex before you have sex with them, this applies to both men and women. Bad sex for you is just "meh, she was a starfish". Bad sex for us is "he started choking me without asking" or "he jackhammered me and I told him it hurt but he didn't stop". They're not the same thing. The only reasonable response is to remove these people from your life if they don’t satisfy you. So if women have to sleep wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:39 AM
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Respectfully, given that you have not had any sexual experience you have zero credibility to talk about sex and vetting. So please enlighten a clueless virgin as to how I'm supposed to predict another person's future actions in a situation before said situation has actually occured, especially if I don't know them well (unless women are supposed to only fuck guys after years of establishing rapport, but something tells me men won't be very happy about that). The men that wont wear condoms are pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:00 AM
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You wouldn't mind a stranger or loose acquaintance telling you "nice tits"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:41 PM
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Pick better partners or stop talking to people who you don’t like to fuck. And we're supposed to know whether a guy is going be good in bed through what? A crystal ball? The comment said that women have "24/7 access to sex". If the majority of that access is from bad partners, women don't have "24/7 access to sex" if we have to filter those out. Can y'all decide whether attention from shitty men is supposed to "count" or not? Because right now it seems like it counts when talking about how easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:38 PM
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I didn't say intention, I said awareness. That's quite different. So we have to cover up because we're "aware" that men might be creeps? We all have to wear burkas or we're inviting the attention? lmao do you really think lesbian and male sexuality are the same So men have no control over their behavior and absolutely HAVE to act on their sexual thoughts? Sounds like they shouldn't be in charge of anything then if they apparently have the self-control of dogs that smell a bitch in heat. As a mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:31 PM
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Yes, when attending parties of my own peers I would like to get attention from my peers. But by "attention" I mean "hey you look nice, wanna dance?" and not "TITS!" If you're upset that college girls want attention from boys at parties and not senior citizens at the grocery store, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:29 PM
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I'd be interested to see how such an experiment would go in the real world (have an attractive guy stand on the street and catcall women). Or even on other apps that aren't explicitly for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:50 PM
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Yeah, but interestingly enough, the really pretty girls were almost always super nice. The ones thst picked on me were average looking and trying to secure their own social status through humiliating someone they considered "lesser". One of the guys I'm thinking of (who was known as "Hot [Name]" because there were 3 guys in our grade with the same name) wasn't outwardly creepy, and I actually found him extremely annoying in 9th-11th grade because he was dumb as a post but when I started actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:48 PM
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I don't. I was compelled to when I was in high school because these guys were friends of friends, which is what I'm basing this on. It was pretty much always the "attractive" "popular" guys who were super fucking weird with me (using sexual jokes to humiliate or confuse me because they thought it was funny, and even making up rumors that they had done stuff with me- ME, a nerdy virgin). They think that they can get away with whatever they want because they're not used to being told off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:17 PM
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It's that hard for women to vet guys for sex. If you are running into the issues above you are bad at doing so. Gauge the way they speak with you, talk about boundaries and expectations, meet in public first. Dudes who are bad in bed/don't care about women's pleasure don't wear fucking signs when you meet them. Neither do sadists/rapists/murderers. You can "vet" all you want and still not be 100% certain. Obviously you should vet, but that risk is still always going to be there (and men bitch ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:12 PM
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The "halo effect" can't overcome "nice tits" as a conversation starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:56 PM
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I think this is true for a lot of PEOPLE in general. I see women who, like me, have minimal romantic experience and are struggling mentally who seem to think that getting a boyfriend would instantly solve all their problems. The trauma subreddits I'm subscribed to have TONS of people who entered into codependent/toxic relationships expecting their partners to validate or fix them and are now having problems because it wasn't an immediate cure like they thought. I know that any boyfriend I could …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:51 PM
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CMV: "Chads" can be and often ARE just as creepy in their interactions with women as "incels" are. (Assuming "Chad" simply means a physically attractive man)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:26 PM
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easy access to sex 24/7 Remember that in this world there is only a 10% chance that you will orgasm from sex while there's a virtually 100% chance that your partner does. Sex will be straight-up painful for you if your partner is bad in bed. There's higher risk of STDs, and if there is a pregnancy, you are the one who will have to go through the permanent damage to your body, almost a year of extreme discomfort, hours/days of agony that could end in your death or permanent disability, and then h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:22 PM
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This is the mindset of the average woman in the USA: not getting any attention is equivalent to getting raped, stalked, and harassed. What? No. The literal point of this post is that rape/stalking/harassment is NOT equivalent to not getting any attention, and that the former is way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:15 PM
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I figured! I just mean that I still haven't come to terms with the way men regard me. I'd love to give zero fucks but I'm super sensitive to the up-down and it makes me so angry. I feel like the fact that I'm off in my own world most of the time helps? I mean, I can still recall individual instances from years ago where I caught old men staring at me, but according to my dad it would happen all the time (probably people trying to figure out what our deal was- we've been mistaken for married mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:52 PM
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There are much fewer women on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:29 PM
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That's the thing about Chad. Chad can be a douche for a number of reasons, but Chad has no need to devolve into a slavering idiot when he sees a woman. Chad can still be and often IS a disgusting creep (if "Chad" means physical attractiveness alone). I don't think all or even most creeps are the way that they are because they can't get laid, although that's a semi-popular belief among PPD men- "well if you women just fucked them they would learn how to respect you". Creeps are creeps because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:15 PM
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Comments like that are frequent; men think they are getting away with something by pretending to have sympathy for my back. Something similar happened to me with a bus driver when I was 15. I was the last one on the bus and he started chatting with me, and he told me that I should "invest in some support up top". He said that he was a father to two girls around my age, as if that made it better and not WAY worse (my father would never dream of making such a comment to any non-me young woman). Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:23 PM
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Men would really like to believe that, but not everything we do is about your penis, I promise. I've only gotten dressed with the intention of being provocative <5 times in my whole life, and all those times I was going to an actual party. No one is like "you know what, I really wanna be leered at at the grocery store (Chads only though teehee) so I'm going to wear shorts!" No, it's fucking 90 degrees out so she's wearing shorts. Women shouldn't have to plan our lives around not being bothered b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:07 PM
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He said “Wow! How big are those things, anyway? Like f-cups? My wife is blessed and she complains all the time. Your back must be killing you!” What. The. Actual. Fuck. I've never gotten harrassment that was this blatant, at least not in any kind of professional setting. This is "guy screaming out the window of his truck" level disgusting. I'm sorry you went through that, but you shouldn't have to essentially bind your breasts in order to avoid creeps. I'm large-chested too and I often hear from…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:58 PM
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Yeah like how normal people have age preferences but there’s are shifted towards younger ages. Grossly young. I've found that this is even true among older men who aren't pedos but fetishize extremely young "barely legal" women. They would take a less attractive 18 year old over a more attractive 30 year old , because it's the fact that she's 18 that's attractive. I developed very early and frequently got mistaken for being 18 when I was 13-14, so maybe some of these guys legitimately thought th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:52 PM
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at most it's just some creep making an offhand sexual comment A woman, and especially a little girl, has no idea whether the man who's making creepy comments to her is going to escalate to groping her or worse. The first time it happened to me, I fully thought that he was trying to lure me into his windowless van. I had to be told after the fact that non-serial-killer men will just randomly talk to women and girls in public. statisitcally a man actually groping and sexually assaulting a girl is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:39 PM
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Sooo if a woman is wearing a short skirt to go to a party or a date or something, and she has to pass a building site on the way... does she have to change her entire route or not wear the skirt or otherwise she's "provoking" them? A woman existing in public is not an invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:28 PM
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Take off the two sports bras I wear at work to flatten my chest out? This sounds like WAY too much work to go through to avoid creepy comments. What you look like isn't the problem. Creeps are going to creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:17 PM
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Pedophiles don't only target attractive children. Creepy old men started bothering me a little over 8 years ago, when I looked an absolute mess (oddly shaped, acne, awful hair, ugly clothes). If I had been going places without adult supervision prior to 8 years ago it almost certainly would have started happening much earlier. Back then I noticed that I was way more likely to be bothered when I wasn't trying to look good than when I was. Only in the last few years has trying to look good (but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:13 PM
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Forgetting that r/ForeverAloneWomen also exists...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:06 PM
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He said that "if everyone in the group was being disrespectful, of course I would join in to socially connect with the group!" That logic of "joining in to socially connect" is how the worst atrocities in human history are perpetuated, and disrespecting women as a bonding exercise IS how rape culture starts. Where's the line for him? Does he just mean that if his friends were disparaging women in general he would join in? What if a woman walked by and they started harassing her? Threatening her?…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:03 PM
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So is not wanting to go to jail the only reason to not do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:17 PM
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Imagine some 21 year old woman going "Yeah, I would love to walk around in the park and eat a $2 slice of pizza! That's way better than all the other guys who are offering to take me out for dinner and drinks!". I literally was a 21 year old woman a few months ago. I would probably construe a "date" like this as a platonic hangout, but I would still go if I liked the person. If someone invited me over to their house/apartment alone and wasn't a well established platonic friend, I wouldn't, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:17 PM
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I'm admittedly approaching this from a high school/college perspective where everyone is broke to begin with, but like, if you invite her for a walk the worst she's going to think is that you're cheap. If you invite her to your house the worst she's going to think is that you're a serial killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:24 PM
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I have ADHD. I was raised in the suburbs and never went anywhere without parental supervision (other than the 8 blocks to and from school, and even that didn't start until I was almost 12) until I was 13 or 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:39 PM
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...I was wearing a mask. It was a pharmacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:17 PM
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It wasn't a frequent or constant thought before. I developed early but had no idea that I didn't still look like a little kid for at least the first 3 years. My dad still tells the story of when we went to the open house for the most prestigious public high school in the city and people were looking at me weirdly because they weren't used to seeing black kids there, and when I went up to the table to ask questions about the school, three or four student reps (all boys) surrounded me. I had no id…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:16 PM
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I mean, creepy old men have been approaching me for about 8 years now, but it used to be that unless one actually spoke to me (which was every few months) I wouldn't notice. Now I'm hyperaware because of this subreddit and not being used to being in public anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:55 PM
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And you think those guys are going to stop if they're shamed? They're not harassing them because they think they have a chance. They're harassing them because they're dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:49 PM
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This is bait, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:43 PM
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This place has poisoned me. This is the second time in a week that I've run an errand by myself in warm weather and felt like everyone was looking at me. Of course I chose the wrong shirt to wear today (gotta keep pulling it up so the cups are above my boobs because otherwise it's cleavage city- I didn't buy this shirt and can't remember when or how I got it but it should really be an indoor shirt), but still. Can I go back to being utterly unaware of my surroundings please
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:41 PM
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I felt the same way when I was really young (12-16 years old). I thought that I was supposed to look like the airbrushed women in magazines and would worry about things like scar marks on my legs and the downy hairs that I got on my back. I thought that I needed to remove all my imperfections to be worthy of social validation, all the other girls in my class who were nowhere near models and yet had friends and boyfriends be damned. It took me years to realize that no one gives a shit about most …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:19 PM
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Truer words have never been spoken. I can't believe how many times I've heard online "why do women do [insert aesthetic choice]? Men don't like that!" Well maybe some men do like that and your opinions aren't objective, or maybe- just maybe- women don't do everything with the intention of making dicks hard? I mean, there's aesthetic choices that men make that I don't find attractive, but I don't go "whyyyyyy do they do this thing that isn't pleasing to ME, the only person whose opinion matters?!…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:09 PM
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Yeah, as are most things in this country which is exactly what's wrong. My point is that these companies aren't doing this to be kind to fat women or whatever the fuck. They're doing it because they want to tap into a more diverse market. This may shock and disgust you, but the majority of women who shop at Victoria's Secret don't look like Victoria's Secret Angels. I'm sure all the guys who shop at Calvin Klein look like Calvin Klein models, though. Encouraging fatness is perfect for that but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:44 PM
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25 year olds are Gen Z now. Millenials are roughly 27 to 42.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:48 AM
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22 F, my last and only "relationship" ended over 4 years ago (arguably there were two "phases" of the same relationship, one from 2/2015 to 5/2016 and one from 10/2017 to 2/2018) and idk whether it even counts because it wasn't sexual or physical. I haven't actively attempted to find a relationship unless you count attending college parties (which I stopped doing 3 years ago, lost my main social circle and then the pandemic happened and I went on an LOA). I'm worried that if/when I do actively t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:47 AM
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Yeah, I'm a Cognitive Science major and this is one of my favorite topics in psychology. We were taught in Intro to Psych that the answer to "nature or nuture" is really "both"- that genetic predisposition does "set the stage" for certain traits/maladies/behaviors, but that the environment is what switches these genes on. It's an interesting (if completely fruitless) thought experiment about how I might have turned out differently. I blame my anxiety disorder on the complications I had at birth,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:44 PM
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The "women aren't meant to be monogamous" thread from yesterday made me think of this: what do you think determines a person's sociosexual orientation? Is it something innate or is it the result of society? Soneone on there said that sexually conservative people seek out religion vs. religion making people sexually conservative, but most people are born into some kind of religion, so is a 6 month old's future propensity for casual sexual encounters already ingrained when they are baptized? If so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:24 PM
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You realize that women's clothing ads are for women, right? The point is for women of different sizes/shapes/colors to see women who look like them wearing the clothes, so that they'll be more likely to buy the clothes. It's about money. You aren't the audience for Victoria's Secret ads because you aren't shopping at Victoria's Secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:01 PM
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" I don't feel comfortable coming to your house for a first date, Lets meet somewhere public first". That's the common response I have gotten whenever I tried. ( I tried a lot). You can meet somewhere in public without spending money- at least without spending more than a few dollars. Go take a walk in the park. Maybe get coffee or something. Women don't not want to go over to men's houses on the first date because we want to drain their wallets. We don't want to do that because we don't know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:51 PM
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Unfortunately this kind of stuff is way more common than I thought it was, but I think that it's often the result of living in incredibly insular families/communities. Think about the places that we associate with incest- rural backwater towns. In my own family, people often have difficulty forming close social relationships with people outside of the "group" because of how emotionally isolated we are from the rest of the world, and on more than one occasion family members have developed romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:41 PM
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Genuinely can't tell whether you're talking about being leered at by men my dad's age, not going outside for a year, or gaining weight on meds, but thanks for your sympathy either way. I had the "hollered at twice in one 15 minute walk" experience once too, but I was 19 and wearing a tight/short dress (with stockings and a jacket because it was October) bc the magazine I was writing for was doing a photo shoot and they told us to wear pink (and this was the only pink thing I owned). At the time …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:30 PM
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I'm glad it worked out for you. Hope to be another success story soon :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:31 AM
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I don't usually eat in the morning because I don't wake up and breakfast is often not easily accessible. I often go until late afternoon/early evening before I eat anything. Caffeine doesn't really help me that much- like, it makes me focused/alert, but then I just stay hyperaware of how focused/alert I am instead of feeling "normal". Tbh, I felt the same way the first time I tried CBD- the lack of anxiety caused more anxiety. I'm worried about that happening with Vyvanse, or that I'll hyperfocu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:18 AM
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I hope it's the same for me :) I'm going back to college in the fall after being on academic probation twice because of my ADHD and other factors. My functioning has gotten worse instead of better as my LOA has gone on (which is why I've been on Reddit constantly), but over the last two weeks or so I've been taking better care of myself. I really hope this helps me get my life back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:04 AM
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How effective was it at treating your ADHD?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:33 AM
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So I was finally prescribed Vyvanse! I've been trying to get on stimulants for like 3 years (was briefly on Adderall XR for maybe 2 weeks but it didn't do anything) after struggling with ADHD symptoms my entire life and finally being tested for it in March. I'm waiting for my insurance to approve it. I'm also starting a medication for my migraines that I was also supposed to get 3 years ago, but I don't want to start two meds at the same time...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:24 AM
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I was that size when I was 11. Was not fun at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:19 AM
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I went out like 2 days ago in shorts because it was sweltering outside and some old guy (probably in his 50s, possibly even 60s) on a bike damn near crashed looking at me. It's always the first day of the year that I wear those shorts that something like this happens, seldom if ever later in the summer (probably because people eventually get used to exposed skin). Before you ask, these are normal shorts, not super tight or exposing my asscheeks. I walked around for years utterly oblivious to my …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:16 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:17 AM
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If your partner gets cancer and they can’t have sex bc they are ill, do you say “well I have biological primal needs, I have to have another man to have sex with”? No. That’s ridiculous. This happens literally all the time. Usually it's the man who cheats on his sick wife, but the other way around isn't unheard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:00 AM
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people who are sexually conservative seek out religion for confirmation bias not that religion makes someone conservative. Genuinely curious: how does this factor in people who are born into a certain religion (which most people are)? You have no idea whether the 6 month old you're baptizing is going to grow up to be sexually conservative or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:50 AM
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What does that have to do with her being a woman? Why didn't you marry a responsible adult? Were you unaware of this until you got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:33 PM
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Men and women aren't the same. Egalitarian may work for some people but tbh I think it's a bad idea. Why? Why does one adult have to have dominance over another adult in order for a relationship to work? I'm not controlling her. There's a difference between controlling and "wearing the pants". But like most feminists, you only see in extremes. If you make all the decisions and control all the finances, you are controlling her. That's what that means. "I don't control her, I just make decisions o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:06 PM
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Because she acknowledges that she is bad with money. So if the man is the one that's bad with money, it's okay for the woman to make all the financial decisions? A relationship with a dominant, masculine man. Here it is. "All women want to be controlled and dominated by an alpha male." Again, dude, porn is not reality. Marriage and kids at some point. A family. You can get those without "submitting" to a man. I know it's a huge shock to some people on here, but egalitarian relationships do exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:54 PM
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I think that men look at quite a bit less gangbang/threesome type porn than women according to the pornhub study I posted. First of all, porn studies are inherently unreliable because a lot of "female" accounts are men who are pretending to be women. Women are less likely to watch porn to begin with, and almost certainly less likely to go as far as making an account on a porn site. Second of all, did "threesome" also include FMF threesomes? Because if it didn't, obviously women are more likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:48 PM
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Yes. Why should you have say over her money? Because you have a dick? Even parents of teenagers/young adults don't usually tell the kid how to spend the money that they rightfully earned (within reason, obviously). Half of y'all seem to want a less equal relationship with your wives than I have with my dad. It's just that feminist women want the same thing that every other woman wants And what exactly does "every other woman" want? and they realize that their views sometimes block them from achi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:17 PM
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I understand the point you're trying to make (partially), but you're conflating monogamy itself with the notion that women are the property of their husbands and have no rights. That's not the case. Western women today are still entering monogamous marriages and remaining autonomous human beings despite that. If you're monogamous with a person who you chose of your own free will and who respects you as a human, there's nothing "patriarchal" about it. Polyamory is not the answer to women being co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:10 PM
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If she has her own career still, why is she submitting to you? Do you control the money that she makes? This sounds too much like a "crazy feminist turned into submissive housewife by alpha cock" porn trope to take completely seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:55 PM
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I kind of understand the reasoning here (men have been "polyamorous" in secret throughout human history, let's bring it out in the open so women can do it too and it's "fair"), but the conclusion is counterproductive. "Polyamory" just turns into a dude's excuse to justify openly having a harem and 99% of the time these same dudes get mad if/when their girlfriends have other men. Usually the person suggesting an "open relationship" (regardless of gender) just wants a free pass to cheat and doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:52 PM
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She wanted men to be removed from all positions of authority? Why would you date someone like that in the first place? If that's what you think "radical feminism" is, it's no wonder that anything less insane that that looks like her "conceding her opinions". Was she young and angry/edgy at the time? Would you say that she actually defers to you or is she just a normal cooperative human being? Does she have her own career? Do you make all the major decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:43 PM
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It's batshit insane, but it's not the mainstream view of actual "radical feminists". Eradicating gender roles =/= oppressing men. Again, what you are describing here is extreme "woke" feminism, not radical feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:38 PM
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That isn't what "radfem" means. Like I said, that's an extreme caricature of liberal feminism. A "radfem" is basically a modern day second-wave feminist- someone who supports the complete eradication of gender roles. "TERF" is used as a pejorative for them because they classify humans by biological sex and not gender identity, which makes them "trans-exclusionary". Also curious to know what "men in the dirt" means to you. Too many men think that having to pick up their own socks or sometimes get…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:24 PM
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That's why it's bait. The whole "monogamy is patriarchy" thing sounds like a really bad attempt to parody feminists (even though I've never heard a single feminist say that ever).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:17 PM
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Do you mean "does it also apply to women"? Because if so, yes. I have no pity for a woman who wants to have her cake and eat it too. Be in a relationship or don't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:10 PM
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What is a "radfem" and a "tame feminist" to you? People frequently misuse the term "radfem" to describe extreme caricatures of liberal feminists. And "tame" is a gross way of putting it. She's not an animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:07 PM
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What does "submissive" mean to you? I mean, a feminist (usually) isn't going to be aggressive and combative if she's in a relationship with someone who she doesn't need to be aggressive and combative with... but the whole "feminists just need a dominant alpha Chad to straighten them out and then they'd be happy staying at home making his sandwiches and sucking his cock for the rest of their lives" thing is just a male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:05 PM
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Way too wordy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:58 PM
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If other people are being "disrespectful" then I would 100 percent join in so I can socially connect with the rest of the group. So if your friends all decided to gang rape a woman, would you join in?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:27 PM
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Mine was an alcoholic too, but not at all quiet. Stubborn as FUCK. My mom was upset when she went into labor on Dec. 20th (two months early) and hadn't given birth by the 22nd because she didn't want to raise a Capricorn like her dad, and any time I was stubborn as a child she would compare me to him. I don't remember him ever doing anything blatantly awful to me (I was 7 when he died so my memories of him are quite few), but I remember thinking he was "off" when I was a toddler and I started to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:33 PM
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But I find it absolutely creepy when men and women want to be with someone who LOOKS like their parents. Very creepy to me. Besides the obvious incestuous implications, it's also a weird form of narcissism? Like, if I saw a guy who looked like my dad did when he was young (obviously excluding the terrible fashion and hair- with the fashion and hair I wouldn't be able to think anything besides "PLEASE tell me he's going to an 80s costume party"), my first thought would be "oh he looks like me if …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:05 PM
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If I married a man who was anything like my grandpa I would unalive, but I assume you had a better grandpa than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:01 PM
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I am attracted to traits which remind me of my father. Attentiveness and kindness. A jovial, sarcastic sense of humor (this is what I idealized about my parents' relationship). Intelligence and curiosity. Sort of the benevolent masculine protector archetype, but also easy to talk to and get along with. In terms of looks, however... since I associate those traits with him I can't find them sexually attractive. I guess maybe the dudes I'm attracted to will age to look somewhat like him (except the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:00 PM
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What does "an obvious capacity for violence and aggression" look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:13 PM
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I think he's attempting to imply that a "gentle" man is weak and will be too much of a coward to protect his woman/family when it's necessary. Which isn't true. You can be the gentlest, sweetest person 99.99% of the time but still be willing to defend yourself and your loved ones. Someone who's aggressive and violent for no reason is far more likely to be violent towards his loved ones rather than be violent for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:10 PM
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My first two jobs as a teenager, my supervisor made us put our phones away during our shifts. It was really annoying for the second one because I was headed to college in a couple of weeks and was looking for notifications that the classes I wanted were open. I'd often see an email that a class was open 3-4 hours after it was sent, at which point someone else had nabbed the spot already. If I couldn't sign up for classes, I sure as shit couldn't reply to some random dude's text messages. Unless …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:47 PM
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I don't really have a magic wand other than just shoot your shot because would you be more proud of a 100% accuracy rating in identifying interest or in dating the person you actually want to date Counterpoints: 1) Shooting your shot as a woman and being wrong is incredibly humiliating, even more so because "women don't get rejected" 2) I have heard that even if a guy doesn't reject the girl he's not that into outright because she's easy sex, he'll only use her for easy sex and not take her seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:23 AM
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Yeah, I dropped that ball lol. But again, I knew I didn't want to be in an LTR with that kind of guy and missed the memo that relationships don't need to be leading to lifelong commitment when you're literally 17. I can't actually say that I would handle such a situation any better now though, and then there's the fact that I DO often see sexual implications where there are none
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:25 AM
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I see. Both make me think of dads/older men, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:50 AM
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So at what point as a woman can you reasonably assume that a guy is romantically/sexually interested? I don't know when I'm being oblivious and letting clear signs fly over my head, and when I'm overthinking and reading sexual implications where there are none (I know I do the latter a lot because of childhood trauma). I was just thinking about this one boy who went to the same therapy office as me 5 years ago and clearly also had social anxiety, and we would always chat in the waiting room and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:49 AM
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What's the difference between a bear and a dad bod?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:25 AM
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I don't understand this at all, but if it worked out for you, all the power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:22 AM
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You had 10 partners in 8 months (and presumably more after that) and are now trying to "do the tradwife thing"? Did you lie to your husband about your N-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:11 AM
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Tinder was ubiquitous already when you were 17? How old are you now? I seldom see women my age who are sexually active comment on here. Most of them are virgins/waiting. Also minors can't use Tinder so I presume you either lied about your age or downloaded it the second you turned 18. 10 partners in 8 months... I just... wow. Okay, I will never understand so we're just going to be talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:02 AM
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Just out of morbid curiosity, how long did it take for you to hit 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:37 PM
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So you didn't care about your N-count or whether these encounters lead to relationships, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:54 PM
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Yeah, but that's a good way for women to get those mythical triple digit N counts by 30 that incels think we all have 🤷🏾‍♀️ Again, I know that sex carries more meaning for me than it does for a so-called "normal" person, but the idea of having sex with someone whose personality you don't know anything of seems like it would require lots of alcohol, and even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:32 PM
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I've never gone past two. I threw in one more to be on the safe side. 🙄 Why is every man on here either a supposed sex god or a bitter incel with no in between? Women don't "let" you. They're active participants who want to. Genuinely could have fooled me with the way we talk about sex on here... it's all about how sex is women's only bargaining chip and how they should give it away immediately to (general) you or it's not fair but never to any other man or she's a worthless slut. Women's own de…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:33 PM
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Yeah, but it works out very rarely so it's not a good gamble to take. I have a couple in my story/daydream world (I'm a writer and a maladaptive daydreamer so I have tons of OCs in my head) whose story I've been fleshing out over the past few months, and they were very amorous immediately and have now been married for 33 years... but whenever I think about this my brain flashes a disclaimer sign that says "This is a work of fiction made up by someone with minimal real-world experience that's set…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:27 PM
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Three dates is way too little time to escalate to full blown sex. I know that I have no experience, but even if I did, that would still qualify as 0 to 100 in my book. Better than sex on the first date, but that bar is subterranean. Y'all really out here wondering whether your date's attracted to you because she hasn't let you smash within like a month, even though she's been holding hands with/kissing/cuddling you on every date?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:42 AM
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Yeah, that's one of the reasons I don't get arbitrary cutoffs like this. It seems like a way to make one feel at ease in theory, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way in practice. I've had a pattern of making up all kinds of complicated social rules in theory (not about dating but about interactions in general) only to have that all go out the window once I'm actually in the situation. You know the quote "no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy"? It's like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:38 AM
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Basically kissing/making out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:35 AM
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Question about the "3 month rule" and all those other arbitrary thresholds for when to have sex in a new relationship: these rules are meant to just apply to sex, right? Like, they don't mean that you don't engage in any other forms of intimacy during that time; they just mean that you don't have penetrative sex. As someone who's never had sex and has almost no experience with other forms of intimacy either, going straight from zero to sex in a new relationship seems like it would be incredibly …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:42 AM
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Jesus, y'all can't help but use non-gendered universal human truths as an excuse to bitch about women, huh? My initial statement was literally not gendered at all. I was talking about both boys and girls. You just saw the female avatar and assumed that by "people" I meant "men", but unlike some people here I'm capable of criticizing members of my own sex. To your statement, the exact same is true of mediocre looking overweight men thinking that they're entitled to a supermodel and getting mad th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:14 AM
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Let’s be honest, only the ugly are forced to act “nice”. Most super hot people are arrogant, entitled, self-important blow hards. But we all follow them around like lost puppies because they’re just so pretty. I feel like some of you get your information about how hot people act from shitty teen movies where the popular kids are brutal bullies. That's not reflective of reality. The most attractive and/or most popular kids that I knew in middle school/high school/college were also the nice ones. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:43 PM
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"Good guys" don't bitch about how their "niceness" hasn't gotten them laid and how they're just going to be assholes from now on. Good guys complain about relationships/dating all the time, but there's a difference between complaining and being an entitled prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:18 PM
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Being "nice" is the bare minimum for being a decent human being. When people say that, they mean that if you're pissed that you aren't getting pussy handed to you on a silver platter and think you deserve it because you're "nice", you're not nice. Nice people are nice for the satisfaction of making others feel good; they don't do it with the expectation of receiving a reward. If your conclusion is "well I was nice to women and none of them fucked me, so I'll just be an asshole instead!", you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:05 PM
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I did something called foreplay to make her wet and horny I know what foreplay is, but you still did everything you could to override her stated conditions instead of just putting on a damn rubber. I assume that if you'd gotten her pregnant you wouldn't have made a peep of protest about having to pay child support, right? and ever since then we’d meet up and do it raw that’s just the kinda game I put down 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:29 PM
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I’m not going on a wild goose chase looking for material to prove my point. You’ll see it posted everywhere. "You can see this everywhere. Source: my ass" Women don’t like STD shaming. And men love being shamed for catching STDs, right? I know you’re still a youngster, but these lines are tired for debates. Tell men on here to stop using them then, along with "you think too much" 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:18 AM
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People are obese and don’t brush their teeth. The consequences of those things aren't as immediate though, and they require consistent action multiple times a day vs. "as needed" action. I know, I have ADHD and could never remember to take birth control at the same time every day, but using a condom only requires like 3 seconds of foresight and if you get an IUD you're set for the next 5 years. Women be letting men hit it raw while not on birth control all the time. Let's not pin this exclusivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:44 AM
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Question: when did straight people first become worried about AIDS? I'm writing (well, planning to write) a story about a couple that started dating in 1982 and was wondering whether it was anachronistic for them to be concerned about AIDS
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:59 AM
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Liberal women are aiming for “tolerance” when it comes to STDs. It’s their chad chasing badge of honor. What the fuck are you talking about lol I've never heard of another liberal woman saying or doing shit like this either IRL or online You sound hella angry about something that wasn't even a gendered statement in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:55 AM
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I mean, true, but my school district made us sit through a several-day lesson about HIV every year from 6th to 12th grade. I actually learned about HIV from this book my mom bought me when I was 9 (the book was from the 90s IIRC) and the way it was described was so terrifying I decided that I would never take the risk of having sex and would adopt children instead of having my own 😂 I was obviously prepubescent at the time and got over that quick when I hit puberty 2 years later, and of course '…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:52 AM
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The "women are more likely to go raw with attractive dudes" made me wonder: who the fuck is still having completely unprotected sex in 2022 unless they're trying to get pregnant? I had a friend who was a promiscuous gay man (so no risk of pregnancy but high risk of HIV and other STDs) who told me on several different occasions about not using condoms with his hookups. He would always get mad at me when I said "bro that's dumb as fuck" (we were in college, there were free condoms everywhere so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:35 AM
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I don't understand why anyone would be that stupid. Unless the guy is a multimillionaire, child support isn't that much and doesn't even cover the full cost of childcare (people seem to forget this and think the dad is paying for 100% of the kid's expenses) and sure as shit isn't going to be enough for there to be money left over for the mom to spend on herself. So she'll still be worse off financially than she would be without the baby. Not to mention that being a single mother is really fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:24 AM
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I even had one say “Bring a condom!!!” But I gave her a back rub and flipped her over and fucked her so in the moment it’s def different I can't tell from the way this is written, but if you had sex with her raw against her will, that's beyond fucked up. If she consented to it, both you and her were stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:33 PM
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Voting Democrat doesn't mean that you're not conservative. There are a ton of black Democrats who would be Republicans if not for the racism. I'm assuming the same is true of Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:39 PM
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Probably true. I'm neither of those, and I also have a lot of "technically the truth" stories that imply I have sexual experience- no one's gonna guess that a woman who ever says the words "my high school boyfriend" did not have sex in high school. If I had played this game when I was actually in high school and written that, I almost certainly would have been made fun of, so my brain is still hypervigilant unfortunately. That's one of the reasons I don't really have a social life and don't even…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:24 PM
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That is literally the kind of line that would be written in the game 😂 Like I'm pretty sure someone actually rhymed "wack" with "jack" when we played on my birthday
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:12 PM
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So I know I definitely shouldn't be using this as a support subreddit, but rather than asking for advice or pity, this is more of a message to other late-in-life virgins that it isn't the scarlet letter you think it is: Yesterday was the birthday of one of the guys in my social anxiety meetup group, and on our birthdays we always get together over Zoom to watch movies and play party games. One of the games is this rap battle thing with robots (I think it's called Mad Verse City), where each play…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:07 PM
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And they remain anonymous by.... just not writing down the name next to the answers. ...it was fairly easy to look up a person by address and/or phone. That's why the yellow pages existed. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it was the lady of 405 Fulton Street who answered this survey about female happiness that was sent to 405 Fulton Street. They are anonymous surveys. What's there to keep up appearances about? First of all, anything that you have to say out loud in your own voice is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:27 PM
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How much "anonymity" do you think actually existed prior to virtual/online communication? They'd have needed to contact respondents by mail (so they needed an address) or by phone (so they needed a phone number). Way easier to truly be anonymous now. "Keeping up appearances" and pretending to be happy was more valued by everyone (men and women) in the past. That's why no one talked about mental health and people stayed in shitty marriages. It's hilarious to me when people point to "declining" ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:45 PM
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"People can make connections anywhere" is the same logic some clueless dude would use to try to pick up women in a hospital or some shit (and then assume that the reason it didn't work is that he isn't 6'6" with a six pack). This is like that whole "guys, the women you're defending on here aren't going to fuck you!" post. Okay? I thought that everyone was aware that they weren't going to get laid off of a fucking debate subreddit? If you wanna meet people off of Reddit, you go to the r4r for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:25 PM
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Lol “most likely misogynistic” stop it there are great wholesome dudes here why you doin that This isn't a dating subreddit. This is a debate subreddit. Where people go to argue. This is the second time I've had to say this in 24 hours, but not every male-female interaction (especially not over the Internet) is or has to be about sex/romance. Distance ain’t an issue just be long distance until things naturally pan out it’s better than nothing "Naturally pan out" bro how easy do you think it is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:16 AM
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It was hilarious how thoroughly he managed to be wrong in every possible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:21 AM
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I've never used OLD myself but I had a friend who was even darker skinned than I am, and heavier as well (she was 5'2"-5'3" and I was 5'8"-5'9" so there was a noticeable difference). When she first made a Tinder (initially she only posted Snapchat filtered face photos, which I had heard not to do bc guys will assume you're ugly) she had 100+ matches in a few days. She later started posting unfiltered face and body photos and still had like 50 active matches at any given time. Her bio sucked too-…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:41 PM
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I live in DC. Well that's an interesting coincidence lol There is a large drinking culture (something like an estimated quarter of the population are binge drinkers, lol.) Yeah, I'm just gonna not mention that when I talk about moving there since I already had/have a binge drinking problem 😂 (it was mostly me trying to use alcohol to suppress social anxiety when I was a college freshman, but when COVID died down and I started going to events again I started having the same issue. I only binge dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm a girl. I'm just basing this on what I observed in the like 10 minutes that I was in the bar before I located my group, and on what I know about other venues. The only other time I've been at a bar has been a hotel bar after a wedding, where there were groups from 2 or 3 different weddings all mingling with each other. A guy did start talking to me that time (over twice my age at the time, but he never explicitly tried anything, so my already-super-drunk been-stuck-inside-since-age-19 …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:38 PM
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Tbf I obviously know nothing about the bar scene, but it was a Friday night and a holiday so there were obviously a shit load of people. I feel like it would be odd to go to a bar on a random weeknight though, right? Like I've heard that the only people there at that time are old alcoholics. I might also be in the wrong city for this. It's like the least friendly city in the country, so of course people don't usually acknowledge strangers. I know that in the South people talk to strangers all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:25 PM
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This sounds incredibly awkward to hold for 10/15/however many minutes. I am a Zoomer so I am basically surgically attached to my phone, but sitting anywhere alone (let alone any kind of social venue) and not having my phone out just feels incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:19 PM
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I wasn't going to because I was there to hang out with my Meetup group and not to be picked up, but even if I had gone for that purpose, there was little if any space at the bar and everyone sitting there was conversing amongst themselves and not even looking at anyone outside their circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:14 PM
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Does going to a bar alone and hoping someone talks to you even work anymore in the age of smartphones?? I've been to one bar (6 months ago) and was meeting up with some online buddies. I was sitting outdoors with them most of the time, but when I was inside and looking for them, it seemed really chaotic and like everyone was only paying attention to their respective groups and not acknowledging strangers at all. The few people that were alone were glued to their phones and presumably waiting for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:06 PM
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When I was a kid (6-14) I wanted to be a famous singer and/or actress. I love being on stage, even though I haven't been for a while. I think it has something to do with dopamine/excitement, and the escapism of playing a different character/persona. I was a massive prude at the same time and even at 14 had little to no understanding of how sexualized the music and film industries are. I once wrote a wish fulfillment story at age 12 about me becoming famous off of YouTube and getting signed, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:50 PM
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I get where you’re coming from, but this is an appeal to have a double standard exception carved out to ourselves. I mean, if this were a mandate and I was subject to it I wouldn't care at all. Fair is fair, and there is no situation (short of being raped while in a relationship) where I will ever be unsure about or attempting to hide the paternity of my child. But if it wasn't a mandate and my partner asked for a paternity test, I would be upset about the lack of trust. I'd still agree to it, j…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:06 PM
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It's honestly hella frustrating as a woman. I made a post about it on another subreddit and account years ago because it just racked my brain. "I can't develop an emotional investment without sex. If you make me wait for sex I'll assume you're not attracted to me and leave." "Women with high N counts are disgusting. I want a virgin or someone who's been with 1-2 others max." This is what I said verbatim: "So it's like part of the determination process? If you like a girl you have sex with her, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:10 PM
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Sure there is, he just has to have money. Look at Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:54 PM
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I don't think it's wrong for a man to want to do a paternity test on his child. Even in a happy trusting marriage. I think it would be different if paternity testing were the default. If it were something that was done at birth by mandate, I wouldn't care, but if my hypothetical husband asked me for one, I would be angry because of the built-in assumption that he doesn't trust me. I don't care whether other men trust their GFs/wives across the board- paternity fraud does happen- but anyone who I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:52 PM
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Firstly, women are proven to lie on studies about body count due to embarrassment (there's a lie detector study actually) Getting two different answers from two different groups doesn't mean that the first group lied, it means they're different groups. Also the CDC data was collected anonymously (as I presume most if not all CDC data is), so it's not like this can be traced back to the respondent. I understand that some people will still lie, I just think that anonymity would cut down on it sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:09 AM
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Although some hypersexual behavior just comes from high sociosexuality and in that case it's highly healthy. Okay, maybe this is something my own sociosexuality is too low to understand, but I have never met a promiscuous person irl who didn't have at least one mental illness or personality disorder and wasn't using it to cope with some sort of trauma. Girls who lost their fathers at a young age, guys who had been raised religious and were forced to repress their bisexuality, people of both gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:50 AM
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At least you're consistent in your victim blaming 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:06 AM
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Way to miss the point. The fact that you are using victims of sexual slavery as an excuse for your misogyny is beyond disgusting. Btw, enslaved men had to do this too. Are all black people scheming liars in your world as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:52 PM
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Women had to be able to quickly change allegiances and move on with the new man in order to survive. It's not "changing allegiances"; it's giving the APPEARANCE of having changed allegiances so that you don't fucking die. Do you think that the African slaves who had their culture literally beaten out of them actually "changed allegiances" to their masters? Of course not. Many continued to practice their cultural traditions in secret, including my own ancestors, which is why I know about them tod…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:31 PM
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So a woman raped in 65 BCE could call the police? Have a man charged with rape and imprisoned? No! That's literally my point! I said: I'm sorry, do you think that women in 1700 or 1500 or 65 BCE had MORE of a choice over whether or not they were going to be raped than women today have? A conquered woman in 65 BCE had absolutely zero recourse. So it's disgusting to call her submitting to sexual slavery in order to not die "disloyalty", even MORE than it would be to say that a raped woman today is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:06 PM
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I'm sorry, do you think that women in 1700 or 1500 or 65 BCE had MORE of a choice over whether or not they were going to be raped than women today have? It's not different. "Allow yourself to be raped or die." It's the same thing on a larger scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:50 PM
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Hence my point. How? Being hypersexual/unusually high N isn't any healthier than being repressed/unusually low N, and in fact they can come from the exact same factors (CSA, parental neglect/abuse, bullying, etc.) for example someone could have an N of 1 at 25 because they got married at 18 and then divorced. But someone who's been single and has an N of 1 at 25 definitely has issues. Couldn't that person have just been with their college sweetheart (who they never married) until last year and j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:57 PM
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I also did go to therapy and got medication which helped with a lot but it’s not like the cure is being low inhibition. I’ll be high-inhibition for life probably. Yeah, me too, and it took some time to accept that there was nothing (no therapy, no medication, no event that kickstarted my "villain origin story") that was going to make me low-inhibition. Even though I was always afraid of this happening (thinking that I would become a "bad person") part of me wanted it to happen because at least I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:48 PM
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...you think the only reason someone is "low N" is that they have issues? I mean, I have issues (see username), but I'm not every low/no N woman on the planet. My friends who at least claimed to be low N were the stable ones while the ones that were high N were walking train wrecks. IMO too far in either direction means you're more likely to have issues than anyone in the middle. Sexual trauma (and other forms of trauma as well) produces survivors that are sexually repressed OR hypersexual. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:31 PM
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If you want to end up a single mother that's on you 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bro I am a 22 year old virgin who will be returning to complete my degree at an Ivy League institution in the fall. I'm not going to end up a single mother. Poor judgement isn't stored in the fucking melanin. we may not have seasoning in our community, but we have good credit and will actually support our children. LMFAOOOOOO what the fuck is this racist bullshit? I am surrounded by men in my own community who are gainfully employe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:14 PM
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The “bar” for height for most women is taller than them, but that’s really only for men who crush other aspects of her standards. She really wants a man significantly taller than her and significantly taller than the average man. How do you think this works for talk women? A 5'11" woman can only date dudes that are 6'6"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:09 PM
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You're looking at this like there's some sort of list of objective standards to cross off before you receive a girlfriend. Like when you're handed a syllabus on the first day of class and it lays out what all your assignments are and how much each one counts towards your grade. That's now how human relationships work. Even individual women don't have objective numerical thresholds a man has to meet, whether they think they do or not (if you meet a guy and think he's 6' you gonna dump him if it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:06 PM
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The scenario is that you're living in a COVID hotspot (pre-vaccines), so any given person you see in your neighborhood at any given time, 1/3 chance they're a carrier of COVID. You don't know whether this specific person has COVID, and they're clearly not symptomatic, but statistically there's a 1/3 chance that they have it. You would have to wait a year until you, your high-risk loved one, and most of the people in your neighborhood are vaccinated in order to not take this risk (although you ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:32 AM
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I'm 5'9" so I figured that played into why people underestimate my weight because they don't elrealize that fat for a short woman is normal or even slim for a tall one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:45 AM
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Are you tall too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:51 AM
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I'm 22 years old and I've never had sex. I would like sex, sure, but I'm not desperate for it in the sense that I would take it from any random guy (no matter how hot he was). Being touched by strangers in any psuedo-intimate way is really uncomfortable, whereas knowing the person even a little bit before it becomes a psuedo-sexual situation makes it much less awkward. (I've extrapolated this from the maybe 5 times that some guy felt me up at a college party- when it was someone I had just met t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:19 PM
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It's about COVID. This is something that actually happened to me. The purpose of it was "no, women don't immediately forget about any and all risks because someone is hot; I hope you wouldn't do it either."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:01 PM
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You're young and single again in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:54 PM
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Exactly. So a woman could be 200 lbs and just look "a bit chubby".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:47 PM
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So I figured this would be an out-of-place question to ask in the conversation I was having, but would be an interesting question to pose here more generally: Let's say that someone who is physically exactly your type wants to have sex with you- minimal strings attached, and they came to you, so you didn't have to do anything. Let's say that, given the time and place, there is a 33% chance that this person is carrying a specific disease. If they are carrying the disease, there is virtual certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:46 PM
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Just throwing this out there: women are almost always about 30 pounds heavier than you think they are by looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:36 PM
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First off, born again saving themselves are not virgins, hence the born again. That's not what "born again" means. It means that they were "born again" when they accepted Jesus into their heart. You can be "born again" as a child. It definitely doesn't only mean people who were hedonistic sluts for the first 30 years of their lives and then "saw the light". Second they would sleep with him And you're basing this on what? What you think is true in your own fucked up head? second Chad is not an "N…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:24 PM
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It's not even that. "You would be low-inhib for Chad." "But I haven't been." "You're a liar." "Bro I have 4 years of post history where I talk about being a virgin on subreddits completely unrelated to this one." "AWALT." They care about n-count but think that every 25 year old woman has been sexually active for 12 years and has an n-count of 57, so when she tells them that her n-count is 2, she's lying. They set it up so they can find something to be mad about no matter what the outcome is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:55 PM
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It isn't. A born-again Christian woman raised her entire life to save herself for marriage is not going to fuck Henry Cavill in the bathroom if he asks. I've told this story on here before, but around this time of year 2 years ago (first really hot day of the year) I was walking to the store to buy laundry detergent when this guy who looked like he was in the NBA came up to me. Now, if this guy had approached me at a different place and time in a different way, I would have been all for it. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:33 PM
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PPD laser-focuses on both men and women who have very high sociosexuality. I'm pretty sure this place just forgets that lower sociosexuality and lower libido people exist, honestly. This exactly. They also seem to forget that we are discussing people with high sociosexuality and low inhibition on Reddit, which is the "social" media platform for the socially anxious. That's why every time a Q4W comes up and women answer in a way that doesn't agree with their preconceived notions that AWALT, we're…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:19 PM
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That's different. I'm presuming that this is something that you did in your relationship with her. Not in your previous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:10 PM
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Question out of curiosity: why did you decide to wait and what were you waiting for?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:07 PM
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just that these things aren't intrinsically 'good' and ultimately stand on the same footing as more brutish moralities. I don't really know what this means, but I wasn't arguing with you, I was just telling my own story...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:32 AM
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I was always afraid of losing my faith because I thought that I would also lose my morality- or, more accurately, that my morality would change from an honor-based framework ("why should I do it?") to a reason-based framework ("why shouldn't I do it?"). I always had this sense that there was someone/something acting as my moral anchor (God, my anxiety disorder, my grandma, whatever) and that without that I was going to float off into the abyss of darker shades of grey. Part of me wanted to break…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:21 AM
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Zero argument from me there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:07 PM
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I was only there for a few days, so it wasn't annoying, just confusing. I remember freezing on the spot the first time it happened and being unable to respond because it was so bizarre to me lol For some reason, when I went to Boston I had weird random adult men jump into conversations that I was having with my classmates (it was a high school freshman trip so we were all 14-15 years old) twice in the two days I was there. That whole city was just so... off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:42 PM
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Also people like conversations even if they don't lead to anything in the end. Having a time consuming engaging conversation whilst you're waiting is great in itself Yeah. I wish I could have just taken it at face value (it did make me feel better because I so rarely talk to people in real life in non-business transaction situations), but I think I've been inside (and on this subreddit) for TOO long. The Internet really does poison how you experience real life interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:29 PM
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I mean, in NYC even after living there 5 years I sometimes asked people if I was looking for the right train because MTA was always switching lines late night and on weekends, sometimes just for fun. Yeah, this is definitely true, but this was a Thursday afternoon on a train that only ever gets fucked with during late nights and emergencies. And you get isolated in your neighborhood sometimes -- living in Morris Park I never went to Belmont or Riverdale in the same borough, let alone far-out Que…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:26 PM
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I am WAY too sick, physically and mentally, to deal with any kind of relationship at this point. In fact I was going TO a doctor's appointment. (I don't advise that anyone actually hit on a woman on the subway. Women less pathetic than I am will not respond to it. I cared because it was the first time I had spoken to someone close to my age in real life non-professionally for literal months.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:02 PM
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But... 27-32 year olds are also dependent on their phones? If he was like 50 or something I would understand, but he clearly wasn't. (During the conversation the 9/11 Museum came up and he mentioned that he was a child when the attack happened, which is what I'm basing this off of, because without actually talking to them I think every adult without visible wrinkles is 30 at the most.) Edit: Wait, were you trying to say that the thing these guys (who have all been older than me) were attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:00 PM
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Where I live talking to strangers is extremely rare, which is why it threw me off so much. (Visiting the South was a major culture shock.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:53 PM
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Sometimes people just would rather get directions from people than use google maps. Maybe this is something that I'm too socially anxious to understand or whatever, but... why? Google Maps takes you exactly where you want to go. A person can only say "take this train and get off at this stop". Dude was maybe 5-10 years older than me so I really don't think he'd be any less dependent on his phone than the average millenial. I actually made a post inspired by this and got EXTREMELY mixed answers, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:52 PM
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Because they were normal, well put together, attractive dudes (well the most recent one had a mask on but he was probably average looking at minimum) who were interesting conversationalists. (Tbf, my 9 is a neckbeard's 6, but still...) Former incels (in the non-pejorative sense) trying to improve maybe? But the other two were like 19-20 years old so how much improvement could they have really done in that time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:44 PM
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So I've told this story on here before, which sticks out in my mind because interacting with others in real life has become an incredibly rare thing recently: about two months ago, I was on the train and this guy came up to me and asked which train went to the location he was going to. I told him, and then we started talking about the pandemic and other stuff going on in our city. We got on the same train and talked until I got off at my stop, and I was wondering whether he was going to ask for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:38 PM
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If it's that problematic the person needs to be banned from the sub and maybe reddit altogether. I tried that and they weren't, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:57 PM
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Yes. You should also report that to admins so they can ban that person from reddit at large. This is ridiculous. People shouldn't have to just take abuse because it's a debate subreddit. Seeing that shit is triggering- like, I actually have CPTSD and it's triggering. I gotta just let my mental health suffer because of some arbitrary rule? I'd RATHER have cowards block me in the middle of arguments than deal with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:41 PM
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So someone's sending me rape threats on all my comments and I just gotta let them send me more rape threats for however many hours it takes for you to see the report? Idk whether you guys banned this person, but the Reddit admins told me that the comments I reported "didn't violate Content Policy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:25 PM
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I'm just gonna copy-paste what I wrote to the last person who said something like this: "Do you have any fucking clue how expensive any four year college, let alone a prestigious four year college, is now, and how no one would sign up for a dating service that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars? My school's cost of attendance is ~$250,000 for eight semesters. Unless your parents are obscenely rich and are willing to pay that much for no return on investment (because the girl isn't going to us…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:46 AM
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But if you guys don't ban blatant harassers what else are we supposed to do? There's a difference between blocking someone in the middle of a civil debate so it looks like you won, and blocking someone who is spamming you with insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:30 AM
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That's ridiculous. Most men on the bottom don't get to marry and didn't have any power over anyone. Any evidence that the men mining coal and building railways didn't have wives? Women needed to marry to survive back then, so they had to marry these guys whether they wanted to or not. Also, even IF the men on the bottom didn't personally have sex slaves wives, they still had advantages over women simply because they didn't have the disadvantages of being women. Just like how all white people ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:44 PM
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But you also have to consider poor women, who are the vast majority of women. The fact remains that poor men had systemic power over poor women. Not that they suffered less than some pampered socialite. Stop comparing the African chattel slave in the fields to his pampered Southern Belle mistress and concluding that "men had it so hard!!!", completely ignoring the female chattel slave picking cotton next who him who's 16 and pregnant with her 4th child by massa.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:49 PM
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They don't have to earn money to attract a mate. That's why. If this were the case, why would women be going to college at all and taking out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans to attend? Just marry some middle-aged guy who makes six figures when you're right out of high school! What could go wrong? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:04 PM
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No. Even (some of) the actual 1950s housewives didn't want to be 1950s housewives. Source: volunteered at a senior center and talked to clients about their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:01 PM
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"You're engaging in apex fallacy"= "men had it so much harder than women, if by 'men' you mean coal miners and if by 'women' you mean rich socialites. There is nothing wrong with this analysis and you're the one engaging in fallacy by pointing it out."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:48 PM
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Whose fault is it that you can’t sit down and stfu? I mean, we're talking about children here, and the child that won't sit down and shut up could very well have ADHD. Or they could have a poor home life and are acting out as a result. Or a million other things. Of course I don't think teachers should just abolish rules to "be fair" to ADHD-H boys (girls with ADHD are usually ADHD-I, which presents very differently), but I don't think saying that a disabled 8 year old should just pull himself up…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:40 PM
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I’m probably only attracted to less than 1% of men I see on a day-to-day basis but that doesn’t mean hypergamy is real. Serious question for whenever this gets brought up: are y'all really paying this much attention to strangers in order to even know what percentage of them you find attractive? I don't see someone who I notice as being attractive every time I get on public transit or go grocery shopping or anything, but I also don't pay attention to strangers like that. If I do see a guy I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:12 PM
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You're the one who chose to argue against a point I never made and now you're complaining that I'M putting words in YOUR mouth? That's fucking rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:25 PM
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"I have no argument so I'm just going to type four letters as though being smug makes me right."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:34 PM
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Online dating is like 70-80% male. No shit women have better options on online dating. Wtf do online dating statistics have to do with committed LTRs? How does this disprove that men choose who to approach? If a guy isn't interested in a woman, he isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:21 PM
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Men are also the choosers. They choose who to approach in the first place and they choose who to commit to for an LTR. Just because the selection process (traditionally) occurs at different times for men and women doesn't mean that the selection process is one-sided. If being "nice" got guys laid, crime rates would go down drastically lol. TIL men commit crimes in order to be attractive to women. Nothing to do with poverty or mental illness or anything. Everything is about pussy. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:15 PM
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Put simply; a man's ejaculation doesn't cause pregnancy unless a woman is ovulating. Both parties have ways (that are about 77% effective) to pay attention to their bodies and avoid this from occurring. However, society blames the man when he errors in this but ignores this is even a possibility for women. Dude, no one who has any idea what they are talking about tells men to pull out. We KNOW that this is an unreliable method, just like the rhythm method is an unreliable method. I didn't say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:05 PM
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My point is that pulling out and rhythm are about the same effectiveness but we blame the man and don't mention the woman having this option at all. No one in this conversation who has any idea what they're talking about is telling men to just pull out because everyone knows that pulling out is useless. You are arguing against a strawman. We tell men to wear a condom the same way that we tell women to be on birth control. It's hilarious to me when men complain "women aren't expected to take resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:49 PM
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Pulling out isn't a reliable method of birth control and everyone with a halfway decent sex education knows that. I was given a book at age 9 that was already at least a decade old at the time that told kids "yeah neither of these are real birth control options". That being said, why don't we attempt to use both? Why is a woman not responsible for her reproductive organs but a man is? Because a man always knows when he's ejaculating. A woman doesn't know when she's ovulating and can only make an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:23 PM
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Yet when trying to get pregnant we expect women to take temperatures and use apps to determine ovulation. Acting as if this isn't possible to prevent it. This is FAR from accurate, which is why the "rhythm method" (which is what you're describing here) is such an ineffective method of birth control that it's essentially useless. If tracking ovulation were accurate it would be way easier for women trying to conceive to get pregnant than it actually is. Not every woman has a 28 day cycle and ovula…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:05 PM
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In that case I wouldn't settle down with anyone thinking that I could change him into something other than he was. That pretty much never works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:42 AM
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I mean, are we talking about a 7 in terms of physical looks or overall? Because liking someone's personality and how they treat you definitely makes a person seem more physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:30 AM
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It's pretty much necessary to measure oneself to find out what size to buy (even though sizing can be WAY off), and from there you just plug your measurements into a calculator.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:55 PM
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(Waist circumference)÷(Hip circumference)= (waist/hip ratio) The standard "hourglass" waist/hip ratio is 0.75 IIRC, but being an "hourglass" also depends on your bust measurement- if your hips are much larger than your bust and you have a small waist you're a pear, not an hourglass. The most common female body shape is pear. If your bust and hips are approx the same measurement and your waist-hip ratio is <0.75, you're an hourglass. I want to reiterate that this has nothing to do with weight. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:45 PM
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MOST of the people who are in positions of power are men. If they gave a shit about the average man, they would do something about male issues. But they don't. They don't care about the average person at all. It was the men in power that sent 18 year old boys to die in the trenches, not the same women who couldn't vote or own bank accounts at that time. No oppressed group in history has ever held MORE positions of power than their oppressors- because then they wouldn't be oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:33 PM
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It's not impossible, it's just very difficult and is something I cannot do unmedicated. "Inability to stick to a routine" is one of the most common symptoms of ADHD- look at r/ADHD. Not to mention that, if I were able to stick to a routine, my priority would be stuff like sticking to a study schedule and a chore schedule, not going to the gym every day so I can be a size 6 instead of a size 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:01 PM
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Is this dude aware that prostitution existed for thousands of years before feminism did? Prostitution has jack shit to do with "feminism", it was a symptom of a patriarchal society where women could either be wives, prostitutes, or nuns.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:52 PM
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Does anyone owe anyone else financial compensation for therapy in any other situation where the first person caused emotional (but not physical) trauma to the second person? Can I sue my former best friend for the cost of therapy and the money I lost by delaying graduation/start of career by 2 years? Something tells me that no lawyer would take that case. Pretty sure we can't even sue abusive parents for their adult children's therapy bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:45 PM
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Hourglass isn't "unachievable", it's based on genetics and has little if anything to do with being in good shape. I technically am one (~0.73 waist-hip ratio last I checked), but I'm not "in shape" by any means because I don't exercise. (As for why I don't, mental illness is a big part, I have ADHD so can't do anything on a consistent basis.) There are hourglasses of all sizes and an obese woman can still be an hourglass. It's just based on weight distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:37 PM
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That would solve a lot of their problems, but it's also a lot more work and they might not receive an immediate payoff, so they don wanna. Although tbf online dating is becoming more and more ubiquitous with Gen Z, especially since we were all stuck inside for a year or two. So I can't blame them entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:13 AM
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Don't bother. There's a reason I didn't reply to this dude. He just wants to be miserable. Apparently every woman who has ever had difficulty dating must be a 3 who will only take 9s and 10s- there is no other explanation. Men who are below a 9 are never shitty people and women who are above a 3 all have an abundance of suitors that are interested in more than just sex. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:11 AM
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Tinder is like 70-80% male. There's going to be an abundance of options based on that alone. It's common sense that when the gender ratio is skewed, the gender that there is less of is going to have an easier time dating (assuming most people are heterosexual).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:07 AM
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So I was late to the "dating for men is like a job interview" thread, but here's my take on it: The guy who posted that was approaching the situation with a belief that he's completely powerless, which is a bad mindset to have even in job hunting, never mind in dating. For all the talk about how "women are the choosers", men are also the choosers in that they choose who to approach in the first place. Not to mention that men are the "gatekeepers of relationships" while women are the "gatekeepers…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:26 AM
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Isn't she like a size 12 or something? That's not even fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:09 AM
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So ironically, the people that get made fun of here the most (the "stable" guys) will likely end up having the best life. This is what they don't see. But they convince themselves that the "stable" guy is getting a raw deal because after a youth of complete sexlessness he's being "settled for" by some post-wall hag after she spent ages 16-29 fucking hundreds of Chads (and she's probably still cheating on him behind his back and will "dIVoRCE rAPe" him one day just because). No matter how many ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:23 AM
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But the road up to 70 is a long road. The attributes that make you desirable when you're young are still part of the reason why couples become couples. "Disregard all that because only the last ten years of your life matter" is not necessarily a good argument. That's not my argument at all. My argument is that most if not all of the discourse on here seems to value getting laid as much as possible by as many women as possible over literally everything else. Like two days ago I read MULTIPLE comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:19 PM
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People and lots of them are on this sub, focus on all sorts of traits that might be enticing and arousing, but are terrible predictors of future success in a relationship. Ding ding ding!!!! One of the things that bothers me about the discourse on here is the focus on short-term success. Sure, being an aggressive asshole might make a certain type of woman want to have sex with you, but a) that type of woman is going to be the AWALT woman that you complain about and b) that's not going to mean ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:04 PM
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Are you not able to read? I said it depends on what she posts. You wrote literally one sentence and said nothing about "it depends on what she posts". Where did I say or think this? By making an absolute statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:28 PM
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This was a long time ago (7 years ago when it started, a little over 4 years ago when it finally ended) but thank you. I wasn't even aware of TRP or their concept of "settling" at the time; I was just glad a boy wanted to be with me because I'd been worried that none ever would. I really should leave here, but I keep crawling back for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:02 AM
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Anyone that shallow reaps what they sow imo 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:52 AM
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They just showed up at the admissions office and said, "hey I wanna go to your school" and were pissed that they actually needed to fill out an application for a non-Ivy. 🤣 (Again, even without the analogy this actually happens)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:52 AM
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"Settling" implies a level of dissatisfaction and resentment that isn't present in a case like that. This is like saying that if you go to a bakery and ask for chocolate layer cake and they say "sorry we don't have any left but we have chocolate mousse cake" you're going to be pissed you couldn't get the chocolate layer cake even though it's practically the same and just as good. That's not my story. My story is that I walked into a bakery and ordered cherry cheese strudel because it was the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:41 AM
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the hugest complainers are the ones that thing you have to be at Harvard/Ivy League level (top Stacy tier) to get considered to any university (any women’s attention) and so when they see the staggering grade/test/extracurricular requirements they go “I’ll never get in to school” (get a gf/get laid”. This actually happens even without the analogy. People think that the "applicant profiles" that schools publish are minimum thresholds to be considered, when they are actually medians of the stats o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:29 AM
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Yes. That is my point. By 21 the vast majority of women are aware of the game. Edit: But since you are presumably over the age of 29 now (obviously I don't know by how much), it's plausible that when you/the women you were dating were 21 these apps were a brand new invention, which WOULD make a difference. I'm talking from the experience of someone who has been hearing about how thirsty guys will DM any vaguely woman-shaped thing on the Internet since I was like 13, and has heard from others wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:18 AM
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Women definitely know this by age 21. I'm 22 myself and these kinds of messages have been mere noise to me since I was 18 if not even before that. When I said "young girls" I meant actual underage girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:59 AM
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This is the entire reason some women who are 5-6s don't actually believe they're 5-6s, because they get sexual attention from men higher than them (but not commitment, like you said) Women become aware pretty quickly that sexual attention from hot men doesn't mean that they are hot themselves, because these guys cast a really wide net because they just want to bang. Again with the college admissions metaphor, it's like how Harvard will spam the inbox of any student who scores above a 1200 on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:45 AM
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Since the concept of "settling" is talked about on here constantly, let me share my own story of "settling". Here I am using "settling" to mean being with someone who you have no physical and/or mental attraction to simply for the sake of having a partner, not to mean getting with someone who doesn't check literally all of your boxes (i.e. "I like guys over 6 feet but I'm 'settling' for a 5'11" one who's perfect in every other way"). I definitely wasn't thinking that he was below my league in te…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:31 AM
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Yes, I have been rejected with something along the lines of "you're too ugly for me". First of all, anyone who actually gives this as their reason for rejecting someone (presumably in a mean and belittling way, not something like "I'm just not attracted to you in that way, I'm sorry") is an asshole. But this is not exclusive to women. I know this may be shocking to some of you, but women DO get rejected, whether it's before sex or after (after is way worse imo, it would be like you buying a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:09 AM
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Unless she literally says "you're too ugly for me", you have zero way of knowing that that's why you were rejected. Of course, when people will low self-esteem get rejected, whatever the other person says they will still hear "you're too ugly for me" as the reason. But that still doesn't mean it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:53 AM
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Women get to be the choosers, so they ultimately decide if anything happens anyways. Men are also the choosers, in that they choose who to approach in the first place. Not to mention that men are the "gatekeepers of relationships" while women are the "gatekeepers of sex". Just because the selection process occurs at different times for different genders doesn't mean that it's one-sided. Even if you go along with the "job interview" metaphor that someone made a thread about yesterday, what happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:43 AM
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If you act like a piece of shit to others based on that, yes. You can acknowledge and appreciate positive qualities about yourself without thinking that any of those give you a free pass to be a douche to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:32 AM
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I'm not saying it's okay for 5s to be assholes, I'm saying that it's NOT okay for 10s to be. An asshole is an asshole and even a supermodel can have an "inflated ego"- look at all the divas in Hollywood, most of whom are incredibly attractive and all of whom are famous but who are still awful people to be around or work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:30 AM
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Yes, but not because they "won't fuck men in their league". Because they are narcissistic assholes. Being a narcissistic asshole should not be any more "acceptable" from a 10 than a 5. It's not even more acceptable from people who have actual achievements, but being born cute and growing up to be hot is not even an achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:18 AM
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I wanted to expound on the comments I posted yesterday about the whole "women have inflated egos bc they won't fuck guys in their league" and using college admissions as a metaphor for dating: Let's assume that the guy saying "I'm an 8 and she's a 6 but she won't suck my dick, fucking slut must think she's a supermodel!" is actually being accurate in assessing his own attractiveness and the attractiveness of the woman. This is a MASSIVE assumption, since people who think like this tend to be hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:03 AM
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When I was growing up my parents only did the chores that were traditionally for their gender. Mother took care of the house and father took care of the yard. I mean, now that I actually think about it, before my mom got sick my dad didn't really cook except for on Mother's Day and my mom's birthday. For a little while after she got sick it seemed like he only knew how to make one dish (which was apparently his "specialty" when he was a bachelor) and him only knowing that one dish was a running …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:37 PM
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Yes. I've been kind of a "joke" for it since I was 16-17 years old. Arguably, the thing that made me a "joke" was prudish/inexperienced behavior and not simply being a virgin on its own, but I've been getting made fun of for prudish behavior since I was 11. Women in today's world don't get brownie points from their peers for being virgins outside of super religious circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:57 PM
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I'm still a young lady living with my dad (I'm going back to school in the fall and hope to not return here after that except for holidays- nothing wrong with him, I just want to start being an independent adult), but my parents never divided chores by gender like this and we don't do so now. I mow grass, rake leaves, shovel snow, etc. He cooks, does dishes, and cleans bathrooms. He HAD to do traditionally "female" chores when my mother became ill and later died, and it wouldn't have been fair t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:45 PM
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Study shows that men who commit violence against women at a rate of 18x that of non-violent men are 4x more likely to be fathers, effectively showing that violence has a positive impact factor of 72. Top 10% of antisocial men commit 62% of all violence against women yet are also responsible for 27% of all babies fathered. Has it ever occured to you that, because birth control is a thing, the amount of children they father is not a 100% accurate proxy for how much sex they have and/or how much wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:18 PM
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These guys are their only uber-attractive options* Felons are almost never uber-attractive to begin with. This SCREAMS that you have never actually been within spitting distance of the projects or a trailer park in your life and think that all criminals look like that Jeremy Meeks dude. I've watched court arraingments before (criminal justice course) and exactly zero of the defendants being arraigned looked like male models. Lower class women have better options then the towns thugs because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:54 PM
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"Likes" on Tinder? Those are even less meaningful than thirsty DMs are. There are many men who will "like" literally any female profile. Likes and followers on Instagram? Most of those are from other women and/or people that she actually knows in real life. Y'all think that every woman with an Instagram is an Instagram model when most of us use it as like a YouTube (use it to follow things/people we're interested in) and Facebook (use it to see what people we know/knew are doing and stay in cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:34 PM
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A hot woman with a hot amazing LTR is far far more likely to be egotistical than a woman with 50 suitors who all are weird or ugly or whatever. In fact the latter is likely to have the opposite happen. It's not even about the physical attractiveness of the "suitors" (and I'm applying that term liberally); it's about what they're approaching you for and how they do it. We all learn very early on that men want to use us for sex. By the time we reach adulthood, a man wanting to use us for sex becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:21 PM
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Woah does that actually happen in the US? I literally had admissions reps call my home phone number. Like I said, I still have a catalogue of cringey emails from colleges that were trying so hard to be "relatable" to teens. That analogy makes sense tho. I've said before that my reaction to an "eyy bby wan sum fuk?" DM from Chad is like my reaction to a "come to our ~multicultural open house!~" email from Harvard. I know damn well that they sent this message to everyone who met a bare minimum sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:30 AM
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There ain’t no loving adoptive parents waiting and hoping to adopt the fucked up child of a criminal 😂😂 who told you that? It was a hypothetical. The point was that being a shitty person isn't genetic. These felons and cheaters impregnate multiple willing women (see above), have 3, 4, or 5 marriages, and then die after happily spreading their seed, leaving 5 fucked up children behind. Y'all really seem to think that Amy from HR is getting knocked up by Tyrone the thug or Chad the neo-Nazi and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:14 AM
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When one is hungry, it is hard to think of anything but food. Unfortunately, a lack of sex won't put you out of your misery eventually. Exactly. You won't die without sex. You might as well say, "well if a person is deprived of oxygen their only motivation in that moment will be obtaining oxygen!" Yeah, because lack of oxygen will kill you within minutes and lack of food will kill you within weeks. No one has ever died from lack of sex. Again, you have no idea what it is like because men tend to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:41 AM
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Any of you know how, as soon as a high school sophomore scores halfway decent on the PSAT, the College Board sells their info to colleges that will proceed to spam them with emails and physical letters and even phone calls for the next two years? If you scored anything in the quadruple digits, Harvard will email you letting you know about their open house dates and stuff like that (especially if you're an underrepresented minority who also scored halfway decent). The emails are obviously automat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:57 AM
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Crazy that sexual creatures might start to lose their marbles when they cannot find sex. Of course it's going to affect you. I never said otherwise. But it shouldn't be your ENTIRE MOTIVATION IN LIFE. No one should have ONE thing as their motivation in life, especially something that they don't actually have control over. Whether you obtain the thing or not, that's a fast-track to being unfulfilled. Oh, so you're a woman. So you have no idea what it is like to have a male libido and no access to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:37 AM
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If your entire motivation for doing anything in life is about how it might get you laid, I really think you might benefit from professional help. At least when I was engaging in this kind of "magical thinking" it was about platonic friendships and access to social events more than it was about getting some man to marry me. And still I needed professional help to get out of that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:21 AM
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I'd trade it all in an instant to be attractive to women, though. Maybe it wouldn't result in happiness but it sure can't be as bad as living life as a eunich. This is beyond sad. That's not what the word "eunuch" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:16 AM
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This is incredibly short-sighted and hurts yourself far more than anyone else. It would be like me saying "well racism exists and I've been accused of criminal behavior while doing literally nothing wrong anyway so I might as well start shoplifting and doing drugs. Take that society!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:51 AM
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Is this a really bad attempt at a joke? Or just ragebait? Honestly I think the way that we as a society romanticize war (and suffering in general) is a huge problem. A couple of days ago I saw this video and went down a bit of a rabbit hole, and while it did help put things in perspective for me about how much these men sacrificed, it also made me feel horrible for them because this shouldn't happen to anyone, anywhere, ever. It didn't make me think that my generation is "soft" because we've nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:47 AM
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How do you intend to survive? You know you need to make money to live, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:37 AM
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And who gets pregnant with the children of these cheaters, felons, and pedophiles to make more cheaters, felons, and pedophiles Ms. Sexual Selector? Being a cheater, a felon, or a pedophile is not genetic. It's arguable that these can be learned behavior, but if the child of a felon gets adopted by two loving parents and grows up in a stable home, they have no more of a chance of being a felon than anyone else who grew up in a similar situation. Also, if being raised by shitty parents meant you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:07 AM
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You think that all or the majority of women have fucked a felon at some point? This is not reflective of reality. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:04 AM
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Luckily you don't have to, ask any other woman who uses the app how many matches + likes she has at any given time. Many men will swipe right on literally every woman and then start narrowing down their options depending on who matches with with them. A lot of guys see that unattractive women get matches on dating apps and then go "see! Dating is so easy for women!" From talking to unattractive or otherwise undesirable women who are on OLD... I know that they get a significant number of matches …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:51 PM
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The difference in dating is that there's no defined process for it like there is for finding a job Yeah, that's exactly the point that I'm making. I feel like too many people approach dating (and relationships in general) like it's a job interview when it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:05 PM
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On average, the majority of butt lifts cost between $2000 and $12,000, with an average cost of around $6,500. That's not a fucking frivolous expense for the average person. For the majority of people $6500 exceeds their total net income in a month. A BBL also isn't going to change the rest of your shape. It's just going to give you a nice ass. No one is marrying and growing old with someone because they have a nice ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:59 PM
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Yes, and it's based on luck/chance of meeting someone that they clicked with (or someone they were willing to settle for). They didn't receive an SO in the mail after checking off all the items on some arbritrary list. "Not that simple" doesn't mean "never easy". Sometimes it is easy. But there's not a clear path to follow like there is for getting a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:53 PM
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I mean like the pitch of your voice. A deep smooth voice will be perceived completely differently than a nasally nerdy sounding voice for example. True, but you can modulate your voice to a certain extent, and people's voices also sound different in different situations. My high-pitched "introducing myself to strangers" voice and my louder, deeper "making jokes with friends/family" voice sound quite different. I agree that those things don't make as much of a difference which is why I said the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:15 PM
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It's not "excuses". I already have a figure considered "hourglass", via genetics. The amount I eat is way more of a determiner of how much I weigh than working out is- I lost more weight counting calories for 2 weeks than I did working out almost daily for 3 months. Working out builds muscle tone and strength, so it obviously helps quite a bit, but it's not the sole determiner of a person's body type. A woman who doesn't genetically have the weight distribution that I do cannot just go to the gy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:05 PM
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And by the same token, an unattractive man can just "lift" and become Chad. Except that it isn't that simple. "Good body" is also determined in part by genetics, not just the amount of work you put in. Just like the gym won't make a man grow 6 inches in height, it also won't turn an apple-shaped woman into an hourglass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:50 PM
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You're going to college get qualified for a good job, but there's no guarantee you'll get one, let alone a good one. Yes, you're going to college to get a degree so you can get a good job. But getting a good job, even though there are still no guarantees, is a lot less complicated than getting into a relationship. You can apply for jobs and the qualifications are listed so you know whether you meet them or not. Relationships, either friendships or romantic relationships, are still not that simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:46 PM
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Sure, you find her hot enough to fuck. Whoop dee do. Would you LTR her without being pissed about having to "settle" for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:44 PM
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How you look and sound effects how you are perceived more so than your actual words do. "How you sound" is part of social skills. And how you look effects how you feel about yourself. To an extent, yes. But if you feel that you are irredeemably unattractive, getting in shape, dressing better, wearing makeup if female, etc. is not going to change that mindset. That was my point. If I could press button and make myself an 8/10 or higher I'd bet my life that I could get laid within 7 days of making…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:42 PM
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It does exist, just not for you. This literal Miss USA with multiple college degrees just killed herself. You can be the most beautiful, intelligent, kind person in the entire world, and it's STILL not going to guarantee you happiness. So I couldn't costume my way into being prom queen. Fine. But even prom queens still have to live and work for 60-70 years after they are prom queens (if they're lucky, and there seems to be a correlation between being popular and dying young). In 20 years that pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:35 PM
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But success in dating and relationships is dependent on more than looks. There could be a button you could press that would magically turn you into a 11/10 giga Chad, but if you still had no social skills, it wouldn't help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:20 PM
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That's not gonna fix a busted face. That's why the term "butterface" exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:12 PM
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How can you call him "daddy" without thinking of your actual dad? That's the part I don't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:09 PM
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I'm just going to say this about the whole "should you self-improve specifically to have more success in dating" thing: The truth is that it's not a good idea to do anything specifically to achieve an external goal that you don't actually have control over. If someone is taking college classes, they're clearly doing so for the external goal of getting a degree. As long as they take and pass the classes, they will get a degree, and they know exactly what it takes to get a degree and how long it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:48 PM
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I'm just gonna throw in my two cents about how fucking creepy the whole "daddy" thing is. It's really fucking creepy. The "mommy" thing too. I feel like the girls calling their partners "daddy" in bed don't have dads and don't remember them at all, but otherwise... Mostly I'm just mad that if I slip up and call my actual father Daddy in public, I get weird/disgusted looks without fail. We are 40 years apart and look very alike, and yet we've still been getting mistaken for a couple since I was 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:42 PM
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I said not AS valued, not "not valued at all". An unattractive guy can still make up for it by being successful or funny or charming. An unattractive woman cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:33 PM
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A lot of people (not just women) do seem to be obsessed with how expensive the things and experiences they have are, as some sort of pathetic status symbol. It's baffling to me. More expensive =/= better. What matters is whether I like the thing/experience, not how much it costs. That's the same reason I don't get the whole "my engagement ring was only a couple hundred while Megan's was $2000, my fiancee doesn't love me as much as hers loves her 🥺" thing. As long as it's good quality and I like …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:31 PM
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When they ask guys, you don’t hear the same answer so your theory falls flat there. Because guys aren't as valued for their looks, so them being honest that they're a 5 that knows they're a 5 doesn't affect them in the same way. Plus you can’t tell us what they mean, we only have what they said I know because I've known people who acted like this and how they actually felt about themselves. If you saw my 2 friends from freshman year and had no additional context, you'd think they must have thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:17 PM
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"Not as much attention as men think" =/= "no attention at all". Men think that Tammy Slaton could make an OLD profile and be bombarded with marriage proposals from handsome millionaires. That's not reality. I've never actually been on OLD, but from what I've heard from other people and seen on other people's accounts, unattractive women (and women who aren't unattractive but are considered less desirable due to some other factor, like race, weight, or age): Get matches but don't get messages or …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:06 PM
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That's a joke. It's a stock meme answer to a ridiculous question (who tf would expect a serious or honest answer from someone who was asked to "rate themselves" on the fucking street?) It doesn't mean they actually mean it. One of my favorite songs includes the line "I think we can all agree, I'm the 10 amongst these 3s". If you saw me singing along to it while doing the dishes or some shit, would you think I actually believed I was a 10 amongst 3s? No, it means I'm having fun playing a characte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:55 PM
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But if the person is aware that the attention is meaningless and based on nothing besides them having a pussy, how are they going to get a big ego from it? It's like saying that if you hand someone a mock-up of an Olympic gold medal, they'll suddenly have an ego as though they were an actual Olympic athlete. It's not the thing itself, it's what it MEANS. If it doesn't mean you're special, and you know it doesn't mean you're special, it won't make you feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:46 PM
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And what's your evidence for this? Someone can not want to fuck you for other reasons besides them thinking they're better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:41 PM
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Call the police. I'm pretty sure the cops have a car. Seriously your own list of excuses can be done away with by calling the police. And her assailant who lives in her household totally isn't going to see the cop car, right? I'm sure that you're one of those people who thinks that domestic abuse victims should "just leave" and must like getting beaten up if they stay. So don't bother with that emotional appeal. I've been on both sides. Yeah, so have I. Which is why I've given this amount of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:38 PM
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Question: why do people on here seem to genuinely believe that even average and below average women have inflated egos nowadays because of thirsty DMs on Tinder/Insta/whatever? Do y'all actually think that any woman believes that the reason she gets bombarded with "eyy bby wan sum fuk" messages is because she's hot shit? We learn VERY early on that men will send these messages to anyone on any app that claims to be female, even if they have no way of knowing what she looks like (this happens eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:18 PM
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Do you really think that thirsty DMs give women inflated egos? We learn VERY early on that men will send these messages to any woman on any app with a chat function, regardless of how hot she is or even having any way of KNOWING how hot she is (this happens MORE on anonymous platforms). I can't imagine any late millenial/early Gen Z woman (who grew up with the Internet) reaching her 20s and still believing that men messaging "eyy bby wan sum fuk?" means she's hot shit. That became noise for me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:02 PM
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I was always confused (still am to some degree) by unattractive women who were still sexually/romantically confident and still had experience. In college I knew a girl who wasn't that attractive in the face but seemed completely unaware of it and actually joined one of the "top tier" sororities on campus, and another girl who had an even worse face and a bad body and was still talking about going to parties and hooking up with guys (she was also in a sorority). I had been locked out of the wider…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:54 PM
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Yeah, I can't really say "I got more attention when I was underage" because when I was 18 I went away to college and basically never left campus (and no one is hitting on random girls on campus) and when I was 20 the pandemic hit and I've barely been going outside since, so there's other variables. But it definitely happened way too often when I was underage. I always assumed that they had genuinely mistaken me for legal age (everyone thought I was older than I was, and some of them would prompt…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:35 PM
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This is why they think that any woman wearing an outfit that's not completely figure-obscuring is doing it because she wants male attention, even at the grocery store/doctor's office/laundromat/whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:27 PM
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Do you think women spend hour plucking every hair in their body Idk about you, but excess body hair is uncomfortable (specifically leg hair). I still shave virtually every time I hop in the shower or bath, even if it's autumn/winter/early spring and I'm not going to expose my legs in public and even though no man is going to get close enough to me to notice whether my legs are shaved or not. Also shaving all the "problem areas" takes like 15-20 minutes at most and there isn't any "plucking" invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:21 PM
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Those women will be shooting their entire gender in the foot by creating an environment where actual rapists can get away with rape a lot more easily than ever before. Something tells me that a society that bans abortion isn't a society that takes rape that seriously in the first place. The Venn diagram of "just close your legs" and "well what were you wearing?" is a circle. That's another problem with the rape exception- the people who want to ban abortions except in cases of rape probably don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:49 AM
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You don't have evidence of your claims either. How are there references and statistics to support the idea that women aren't more "basic" than men are? How is "basicness" quantifiable? You haven't even specified what "basicness" IS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:54 AM
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I will agree that there is no cheat code and that improving does not guarantee anything, but I also think it is better to try than to sit and do nothing and watch as any chance passes you by. The only two options that exist are not "exhaust myself working really hard towards a specific end that I don't have actual control over such that if I don't achieve this end then all of this work will feel completely worthless" and "sit on my ass and do nothing". I know, I'm just learning that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:41 AM
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The truth is that it's not a good idea to do anything specifically to achieve an external goal that you don't actually have control over. If someone is taking college classes, they're clearly doing so for the external goal of getting a degree. As long as they take and pass the classes, they will get a degree, and they know exactly what it takes to get a degree and how long it will take. They know that as long as they show up to class, pay attention in lectures, do all of their assignments on tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:37 AM
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Well, with glasses, to me, while it doesn’t work for everybody, for some, it just WORKS. With the right person and glasses style, it can add to one’s attractiveness. I recently bought a more stylish pair of glasses (cat eye with golden brown frames, and since my skin is a warm brown it works- just gonna plug color analysis for anyone, male or female, looking to improve their fashion sense). This was all before I got my new frames, though. You say about skinny jeans but what about tops? It doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:08 AM
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How is that "made up crap"? Do you think that a female nerd has more in common with a cheerleader than a male nerd has in common with a jock? Why? What is your evidence for this? You're the one that made the initial claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:18 PM
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Hair? My hair looks awful 99% of the time. Eyes? I was wearing glasses in most if not all of these situations. (I've noticed a pretty big difference on nights out when I'm wearing glasses vs. contacts, so you may be right, but still... I was wearing glasses.) If you’re not wearing a parka/puffy jacket and loose sweatpants, overall figure? Maybe. All my jeans are still skinny jeans even though they're not in style anymore. But like... why would I want to even entertain someone who's only interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:24 PM
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Easy, have women show proof they reported the rape around time of conception. So the morning after a woman gets raped, she has to get up and go to the police to report it? There are tons of reasons why that would be difficult or impossible, but I'll go for an extreme one: teenage victim, cannot drive yet and lives in an area where public transit is sparse, so can't drive down to the police station and report it on her own. Her assailant is a member of her family, so she can't tell her parents an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:08 PM
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I've already posted about why exceptions for rape aren't morally consistent, but let's get into why they're not enforceable: Half of y'all think that women are running around falsely accusing men of rape for shits and giggles NOW. How many false accusations do you think there will be if a rape accusation is the only way to obtain an abortion? I'm assuming that it would take more than a woman saying "I was raped, please give me an abortion" in order to qualify for this exception, since that's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:43 PM
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So, I definitely wasn't thinking "he's below my league" in terms of looks, although I realized after getting to know him that he was far below my league in terms of intelligence and ambition. I wasn't physically attracted to him, but I definitely didn't think I deserved someone better. I was also not yet finished with puberty when this began (15) so I couldn't even really recognize what erotic attraction was supposed to feel like. how did it start? On the day before Thanksgiving my freshman year…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:09 PM
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The most common line from guys approaching me is them pretending they know me from school or something and then acting like they confused me for someone else. Wait, is that what this is? This happened to me like twice at the same party and I was super confused because there aren't enough people who look like me to confuse me with (I'm black and this was a party at a rich private university, for starters).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:41 PM
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I get approached by a lot of men and post-covid I've noticed it's definitely gotten worse - It's opportunistic cold-callers >90% of the time who approach me on the street, at the gym, in the park, grocery store, bars etc The funniest thing is getting cold-approached while wearing a mask. Of the maybe 5 times I've been approached in public since the pandemic started (haven't been going out in public nearly as much as I used to), all but one of those times I've been wearing a mask. (The one where …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:32 PM
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Whenever I see a guy posting about how he feels like a "dancing monkey" or like he has to constantly perform on dates, this is what I imagine happening. This may also be the result of social anxiety and/or neurodivergence. I too feel the need to "perform" in social interactions- much less now than I used to, but it used to be that if I was with a "friend" I would feel like we needed to be talking the entire time we were together, or that if I was with a group of "friends" I needed to constantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:22 PM
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The female gamer (an actual gamer, not an e-girl posing with a controller) and the cheerleader aren't going to have overlapping interests any more than the male gamer and the jock are going to. People in general can usually fit into one of several archetypes (not perfectly, but they will have overlapping traits with many other people who are similar to them somehow). If you think that women are more "basic" than men, it's because you only interact with the same type of woman, or you're just blin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:16 PM
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Not just romantic, because I've noticed men in my life often talk over me and often I'll have to repeat myself because they weren't listening. Are these men peers of yours? Most of the men in my life (dad, most of my uncles, most of my cousins, etc.) are interested in what I have to say, but I feel that there might be a bias because I'm still "the child" and family members are always interested in how "the child" is doing but not so much in how the already established adults are doing (it drops …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:09 PM
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PEOPLE are conversationally selfish. You, me, everyone. We all find ourselves much more interesting than we find anyone else. People are just varying levels of self-aware about it and have varying levels of understanding that other people actually matter. One of the main personality traits that I find attractive is attentiveness, which means listening to me, asking me questions, and overall seeming like he cares about what I have to say. The person who I've felt the strongest romantic feelings f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:01 PM
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I'll wait for the study before I draw any conclusions, but I know that data collected about people's sexual behavior in 2020 about 2020 doesn't prove anything but that COVID influenced people's sexual behavior. Obviously there's less casual sex when people cannot leave their homes for non-essential reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:55 AM
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In terms of study definitions, aka the only way we can prove anything, yes. Casual sex is defined as anything that isn't between married couples. I'm sorry, but the only explanation that I can think of for why there would be less premarital sex in 2020 than 1960 is that there was less sex period in 2020 than 1960. If the survey data was literally from 2020 and not the preceding few years, COVID was certainly a if not THE major reason for this. Pretty much any study about human behavior using dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:49 AM
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If you say so. After all, you're the alpha male, so my lowly feeeemale brain has no choice but to bow before the superiority of a man who can't construct a sentence. /s in case you couldn't figure it out but congratulations, you've been reported!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:59 PM
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Casual sex was defined the same way in 2020 though All premarital sex was considered casual sex in 2020? Huh? I've never heard anyone besides religious fundamentalists use that definition in the 21st century. All casual sex is premarital (or extramarital), but not all premarital sex is casual. most people consider anything outside a committed LTR/Marriage to be casual Sex within a committed LTR is still premarital if the LTR is not legally a marriage. Did the study you're using from 2020 conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:49 PM
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The numbers for 60 years ago are inflated because their definition of "casual sex" was much broader than ours is. If you narrow the definition of a term, things that apply to that term will be less common than when the definition was broader, even if nothing changed besides the scope of the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:13 PM
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The TOTAL amount of casual sex that people in the young age group are having has declined precipitously from 1960 to 2020. I know that millenials and Gen Z are having less sex than boomers and Gen X were having at our age, but the people who were sexually active in 1960 weren't boomers. The oldest boomers were 15 and the youngest weren't born yet. Casual was defined in the survey as sex between partners who are not married That's a different definition of "casual sex" than we have today. No one …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:07 PM
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My desire to have sex with random hot guys based on nothing besides looks is like my desire to punch rude customers in the face when I was working front desk. Because there's a laundry list of reasons that I would never do it, it's not going come up at all except in my own private thoughts. In fact, they're NOT the same, because if I punched a rude customer I'm guaranteed to have the satisfaction of doing so even if I got fired and/or arrested for it. Not so with having sex with the Michael B. J…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:30 PM
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I mean, it was a lot more difficult to have casual sex when you lived in a small town with the same 100 people your entire life and couldn't really get in a car and drive 50 miles so you could do this without getting caught (and there was little to no virtual communication). Even if you disregard other societal changes entirely, people have more casual sex solely for the reason that it's a hell of a lot easier to meet and communicate with casual sex partners now than it was then. Something also …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:20 PM
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I mean, if it's like $1 over or something I won't stress about it, but when my dad or another family member takes me out I do take cues from them about "what we're ordering" and I'm not going to order surf & turf if they get a burger. (Friends/peers don't count as everyone is paying for their own shit, but even then I would feel bad about ordering a 3 course meal while everyone else just wanted salads or something) I definitely can't imagine being asked to go somewhere and seeing it as a free pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:34 AM
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Black Staceys are Naomis, Hispanic ones are Marias, and Asian ones are Mei Lings. I've heard "Enrique" used to refer to Hispanic Chads and "Chang" for Asian Chads. (The fact that people have even made this up is absurd, but such is the state of Internet discourse)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:26 AM
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I'm probably going to regret this, but what do you guys think of this question? Personally I think that taking advantage of a person's generosity like this by buying the most expensive things possible is really rude (it seems almost deliberate- top shelf vodka cannot taste that much better than just regular ass vodka), but in order to avoid having this happen to you: If you're paying for the meal, it's fine and probably smart to set some sort of budget in advance if you can't trust the other per…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:24 AM
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I tried the tactic of going to restaurants or coffee shops and having "open body language" and it never worked. I don't understand why anyone would do this in 2022, because it almost certainly isn't going to work now that we all have smartphones surgically attached to our bodies and don't notice other people 99% of the time. I had someone make the argument that people going to coffee shops "to do homework" are actually going in the hopes that someone will talk to them, and... no. Anyone who trie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:57 AM
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People go to bars for reasons other than to get laid. Especially if they're there with a group of people they already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:52 AM
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My experience with this is limited to college parties because I couldn't get into bars and clubs prior to lockdown, but unless college parties are somehow more chaste than bars and clubs, even one night stands don't work like this. People still talk to each other beyond "eyy bby wunt sum fuk" before leaving the party together. Like, the time between meeting the person and hooking up with them is still a couple of hours, depending on when in the night you met them. Never been on Tinder, but I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:06 AM
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How often do you think this happens in real life where the message is the equivalent of "eyy bby wunt sum fuk" and it works (after just that message, apparently)? This is literally a meme. Like, I've actually seen this as an inc*l meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:49 PM
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The difference is that when you remove the repercussions, you GET the actions. A LOT more women engage in causal sex today, than 60, 80, 100 years ago, because many of the repercussions have been removed. It's an ongoing process, women are still sexually "evolving". The thing is that the repercussions will NEVER be completely removed. There is no birth control that is 100% effective and 100% reversible, and it seems like such a thing would be virtually impossible to invent. Most women still want…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:41 PM
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only the wokest of wokes would consider such a situation rape if she was the instigator assuming that she was the instigator and it wasn't a "suck my dick or you're fired and you'll never work in this industry again" situation The #MeToo accusers, if you believe what they actually said, were in the "suck my dick or you're fired" category. That, or there was no actual dick-sucking involved, "just" sexual harrassmemt once already in the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:01 PM
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That it doesn't matter if women are attracted to random hot guys based on looks alone if they won't actually fuck said random hot guys based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:57 PM
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I think we should separate sexual attraction and willingness to have sex. I am sexually attracted to people I’ve never met in my life, but I won’t just have sex with them if they ask. Ding ding ding!!!! I agree with this and I think that most women (on here and in the real world) are like this to varying different degrees. I've been approached by guys I would absolutely consider attractive (like, once or twice), but because of their vibe (very "on the prowl") and the circumstances (this was lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:49 PM
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Don't confuse base sexual desire with expressed sexual desire. But wait... if someone wants to do something (conciously or subconsciously) but isn't willing to do it for XYZ reasons, doesn't that produce the same behavior (lack of action) as not having the desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:41 PM
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I dunno. I’d recommend to at least try a new hobby once for the purposes of meeting someone. You might find out you like the hobby and meet someone. Or like the hobby but not meet someone. People develop interests in, or at least consider, a whole lot of different hobbies throughout their lives. Even if Bob never actually took piano lessons before, maybe he always wanted to and his parents couldn't afford it and now he's an adult wanting to break out of his shell. I wouldn't reccomend anyone try…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:36 PM
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You're basing the concept of an "advantage" solely by the relative power the woman and the guy she's trying to get something out of. The point isn't that she has leverage over him but that she has leverage over everyone else. The comment that inspired me to think this through said, "If a [woman] knows how to use her assets no one is more privileged in life." If women had the power to mind-control men through sex that y'all seem to think we do, the world would be run by hot bimbos. House slaves h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:15 PM
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She has power over a lesser man. Did you think pussy power meant that every woman has ultimate power over every man? Uh, no, even a male 2 is not going to offer a female 3 a job in exchange for sex. He'll have sex with her, sure, but he'll have sex with a tree stump. To standardize the training phase, for quality control, to fund colleges etc. Quality control means that they need qualified applicants who are good at the job. Which shouldn't be a problem if any asshole can do it. -. - Do you hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:55 PM
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I'm a STEM major myself (in one of those "not real STEM; there's more than 2 women per class" majors, but still science). I'm aware of this. I'm ALSO aware of how many "real STEM" majors suck at communicating because they THINK they don't have to. These are often the same people who think that the reason no one wants to hang out with them is because they have such a high IQ that they can't be understood by the common folk, and NOT because they have the social skills of a buzzsaw and no interest …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:12 PM
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But she had to be in the position to be chosen as VP in the first place, even if she was a "token". Biden wouldn't have chosen some random black woman with no political experience or qualifications. Trump is a special case because he was obscenely rich and one of the most well-known celebrities on the planet before breaking into politics. Harris was not. There WAS no job for him to "perform exceptionally well" in because he had no legal or political experience, whereas most politicians are alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:04 PM
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This isn't exclusive to women. Attractive women are favored over ugly women and attractive men are favored over ugly men. Straight men aren't the only ones that ever have hiring privileges (if an attractive man gets a straight female interviewer he too will get "favorable treatment" even though she won't be as receptive to offers of sexual favors), and you don't even need to be attracted to a person's sex for the "halo effect" to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:58 PM
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So because I said it sounds awfully similar it means I made an equivalence? "Awfully similar" means "very close to being the same". Which it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:55 PM
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Then she has less power. So she can't "use her assets" to obtain this power by proxy. Which was my original point. Not if she has already established herself. She's not going to "establish herself" if the only thing she's actually good at is sucking dick. A woman cannot suck dick through her entire career until retirement age. Actual prostitutes have to retire at like 35-40 and start pimping out other, younger women. I was top of my class in humanities too. The only reason I chose STEM is the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:44 PM
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Now you want to define my own example for me? If your example was as you just defined it, then it's irrelevant to the argument because that's not what happened. We aren't making separate points to third parties at separate times. We are having a conversation. Do you know what it means to reply to a comment? It means you're responding to what the other person commented. My whole argument was bring the same energy to other topics. Again, if you want to "bring the same energy to other topics", that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:29 PM
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Maybe these did merit separate rants, but I didn't want to double post on this thread. Even if you disregard the entire first paragraph I wrote, read the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:18 PM
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Men don't find only young chicks attractive enough to fuck. Also, youth is comparative. So what if she isn't attractive? You know, like how most American women are overweight? People in general will become less attractive as they age, so the older someone is, the less likely they are to fit the profile of what's considered attractive (older people are more likely to be overweight for example). Even a woman who is super hot at 25 will not look the same at 50; therefore, if she isn't good at her j…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:12 PM
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This doesn't even make sense, because this is a conversation between two people, not two people making separate statements to a third party at different times. You said "what about "toxic masculinity"?!" in response to me complaining about the term "divorce rape". If you just wanted to complain about the term "toxic masculinity", you would have MADE YOUR OWN COMMENT, not replied to mine. Do you often bring up completely irrelevant shit in a conversation? Someone says "I went to Wendy's today" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:52 PM
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Women do not have to deliver on anything when using their sexuality. Flirt with the interviewer or boss to get what you want and then just pull back afterward. I was going to include this in my original comment, but decided not to. Too many of y'all think that a woman is "using her sexuality" if she has big boobs and is at all friendly and personable (you know, like people are in job interviews). If I show up to a job interview, acting the same way that I would if a woman was interviewing me, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:41 PM
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That's negotiable. She is just emptying his balls after all, they aren't getting married. Just because guys will fuck a woman they aren't attracted to as in-case-of-emergency pussy doesn't mean that they'll put in anything resembling effort to do so. They're not even paying for that woman's dinner, let alone offering her a job. Pretty much all non tech/science jobs aren't particularly hard Ah yes, le STEM, the only field that's actually difficult. All other jobs can be performed by any asshole o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:26 PM
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This is a point that I've had in my head for months, but another argument on a different thread reminded me of it: Maybe about 2 months ago, there was a comment thread discussing the "female privilege" of being able to "use her sexuality" to get ahead in the workplace. The exact quote was "if a female knows how to use her assets literally no one is more privileged in life". The general point that I wanted to make is that power by proxy isn't power, but let's take this scenario of a woman trading…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:03 PM
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So then how do we determine who gets that money? There aren't really ancestry records that far back for us, so we can't use those. What's the cutoff for percentage of sub-Saharan African DNA you have to have? We're all mixed with something, so 100% isn't it. What about biracial people who have one ADOS parent and one parent of another race? Do they get a check? What about people we used to call "quadroons" or "octoroons"? What's to stop blond-haired blue-eyed people with 3% sub-Saharan African a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:17 PM
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I'm not fighting against anything. This generation is tapped. If 2 people disagree it will always be a fight? That says a lot about you. "Fight" doesn't always mean an epic battle between sworn enemies. It just means (unless being used to refer to a physical fight) that two or more people are having an argument. That's why siblings, couples, and roommates "fight". It's like person 1 says "I don't like when you insult my family", person 2 says "why are you so condescending to me" This is called "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:56 AM
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Have you ever been in any kind of relationship? Because people you love and people who love you will hurt you. That's a given. LOL. I am more than aware of this. I still don't assume that an entire demographic group is out to get me because of several bad experiences. I've had two gay male friends who were narcissists that lied to and betrayed me. I don't say "AGMALT" or keep my guard up around gay men any more than I do around any other group of people. I was not making any equivalence? You ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:40 AM
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to call bulshit when I see it. So, it's a fight. You're fighting against what you perceive as bullshit. What's another word for fight? Battle. My urge to comment was how can you reach a conclusion like that but ignore it when something similar happens on the opposite gender? And then write a whole paragraph of why is it different? Because they aren't equivalent because one is not an example of what I was originally complaining about. Just gonna copy-paste what I said earlier: "My argument wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:22 AM
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I don't even disagree with what are you saying? So do I trust people close to me or not? From your own words I shouldn't trust strangers but I don't know what people I know are like? So should I protect myself or not really? Lol. No one is telling you not to protect yourself, but if you aren't at least 99% certain that someone isn't going to hurt you, you probably shouldn't be in an LTR with them. If you assume that a person must be "like that" because of their gender, you will never trust them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:02 AM
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I specifically talked about "toxic masculinity" the term refers to men and men only A subset of men. Not all or even most of them. Every square (toxic masculine person) is a rectangle (male); not every rectangle is a square. I just find it funny that 80% of the men who hear it dislike term but here you are writing a whole paragraph of why we're wrong My argument wasn't simply about "terms I don't like". Otherwise my comment would have been as long as War & Peace. My argument was about "terms tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:14 AM
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This explains why I feel like most people here lack any valuable insight, you see everything as a battle. If you don't see this as a battle, why are you arguing? What she said with pretty words was really nothing, because she can't not possibly know what the term does to men, because she's not one So, by the exact same token, you can't possibly know what the term "divorce rape" does to victims of literal rape (both male and female) because you presumably aren't one. Nor can you know what "AWALT"…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:00 AM
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Do you think that's the only reason someone would want to remain a slave? To appease an oppressor? ...yes. To appease their oppressor because they are afraid of what their oppressor may do to them if they challenge them. That's why some slaves chose not to run away- because it was less risky to remain enslaved and possibly be granted favor from their masters than run away and risk being tortured and/or killed if caught. It's that, or genuinely believing that they are inferior and their oppressio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:47 AM
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It's possible you got the right to vote at the time because while there were a substantial number of women who didn't want it, those who did want it were louder, better organised, and in the case of the suffragettes (to the chagrin of the suffragists who found it counter productive), more violent. I mean, there were slaves that didn't want to be free either. So too were there American colonists who didn't want independence. Stockholm Syndrome is a thing, and so is wanting to apease your captor/o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:12 AM
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Even if you "know" the person is a woman because they say so (which you still don't because this is the Internet and people lie), you don't know what she looks like unless she has pics in her post history (which most don't). She could be a 350 pound 70 year old with 3 teeth left for all you know. The odds that the woman you're defending on PPD is a young hottie that lives within driving distance of you, let alone that she's going to want to fuck you because you defended her over the Internet, ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:50 AM
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Because a substantial amount of you didn't want the right to vote Wait, so why did we get the right to vote? Were we all happily in the kitchen making pies when the men in Congress said "you know what, let's give women the right to vote now, just to be nice"? Is that what Iron Jawed Angels was about? It's always funny to me when some men say "women want to be in the kitchen and have 14 children!" and don't seem to account for why we ever fought to leave the kitchen if that was the case. If women…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:15 AM
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Why do y'all seem to think that the same women who couldn't vote or own bank accounts were the ones sending men to die in the trenches? If women had such power because we "control the sexual marketplace" or whatever, why did we not use that power to, idk, obtain the right to vote or make marital rape and domestic violence illegal WELL before it actually happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:54 PM
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in most cases, a man agreeing or sticking up for a woman is because he wants sex from her. How does this apply on an anonymous Internet forum where none of us can see each other and most of us are nowhere near each other geographically?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:14 PM
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Men rarely hear of negative news stories when women are the culprits. Because the news tends to focus on stories of violence ("if it bleeds it leads") and there are far fewer female violent criminals than male ones. Female violent criminals are extremely sensationalized (Jodi Arias, Casey Anthony, even suspected ones like Carole Baskin) because they're so rare. The news isn't going to cover a man getting screwed over by some gold digger the way that it covers a woman getting dismembered and thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:49 PM
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1) "Toxic masculinity" is not a bastardization of the term. "Toxic", along with its meaning of literally poisonous objects, also means people behaving in a way that is mentally/emotionally harmful to themselves, others, and/or society as a whole. It's not at all exclusively applied to men- women (individual women and certain types of women) get called "toxic" all the time. "Toxic masculinity" applies to a certain type of men who are toxic, not implying that all men are toxic. "Rape", "widow" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:26 PM
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was always interested in martial arts which just naturally seems almost exclusively male. I took tae kwon do as a child and it was a pretty even split of boys and girls. Might depend on where and when you were in martial arts, and the type of martial arts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:13 PM
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Si no has died of a rotten tooth? People have died of dental abscesses, but far more people have died in childbirth. If root canals are life-saving, so are abortions. Driving a car is necessary. It isn't. You can walk, bike, or depending on where you are, take public transit. Humans existed for thousands of years before cars were invented. It's not necessary for the survival of any specific individual or the species as a whole. Is having sex a human necessity? For a specific individual, no. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:10 PM
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And yet you’ve either allowed your moral interest to dwindle or sit idle while you worry about the financial, or these reparations weren’t ever really antagonist enough to your views to oppose them. I don't think you read my comment correctly. I AM against reparations, even though they would benefit me financially (at least in the short-term). Someone can be against something even if it benefits them, for moral reasons or otherwise. That was the purpose of my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:47 PM
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Another great argument. If we're banning abortions because "consequences of sex", we should be banning STD treatment as well. Let that teenager who caught chlamydia from her cheating boyfriend go blind from it; she shouldn't have been having premarital sex to begin with. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:19 PM
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I mean, "antagonistic to your interests" is not "antagonistic to your values". For example, being against reparations is antagonistic to my (financial) interests, since reparations would mean that I would get a check.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:10 PM
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I took an English lit class at college in an attempt to meet girls Is this common? Is that why a significant number of men think that women choose STEM majors to get their "Mrs. Degree"- because it's projection? Idk who has the time in their class schedule to just frivolously take classes that have nothing to do with their major/minor or the college's foundational requirements. I also dk who would take a class that they didn't want to outside of it being a requirement for their major. The only r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:08 PM
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I mean all those things that u said are about saving a life. Root canals are usually not life-saving. It's incredibly rare for a rotten tooth to lead to an abcess that travels to the brain. Much rarer than dying in childbirth. Let's say it's not a life-threatening injury. Let's say a speeding driver gets into an accident and breaks their leg. No cast for them? Just live with the consequences of their actions? No, we still give them a cast. I mean people on here say that sex is not necessary. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:55 PM
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I think that u/TheFinalDefender was describing what I was talking about (agreeing with something that doesn't benefit you or your group) and you interpreted it as something different (agreeing with something contradictory to your values). It's a chain of misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:42 PM
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even though this woman they are with seem wonderful, she still has the propensity to hurt them and/or financially ruin them. This is true of literally all human relationships. Every single person that you have any kind of relationship with (hell, I'd ever go as far as to say every person that you encounter) has the potential to fuck you over in some manner if they really wanted to. Physically, mentally, emotionally, financially, etc. There have been tons of times where I've been aware that I cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:36 PM
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I feel useless when I hear someone has a problem I can't help them solve, and I don't think it's rare for women to be like this?? Yeah, same. It's a problem because the person is often older and has a problem that I can't even fully understand, let alone solve (marriage problems, for instance). I was always the child giving advice to adults about things I knew nothing about. Today it's because I feel bad about constantly being "the child" and a taker and not a giver, so I try to "give back" to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:28 PM
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One of the most common pieces of advice to men I’ve read is that when a woman starts to complain about her problems, we need to resist the urge to come up with a solution, and instead empathize with her and let her vent. Having done so before, it is surprisingly challenging to do this. The thing is that not all problems are solvable. The majority of things that a woman need to "vent" about are things that are either partially or completely out of her control or yours (possibly anyone's). It's of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:21 PM
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Being at the same college is a type of preselection that doesn't exist out in the wider world where the majority of men I see are out of my age range and are more likely to be hiding marriage/children/criminal records/whatever. But college students almost never "cold approach" each other except at actual social events. Asking out someone in one of your classes is a "warm approach" and I've never heard of anyone doing so out of the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:16 PM
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I honestly wouldn't recommend anyone join a hobby that they genuinely have zero interest in for the express purpose of meeting someone. Like, there has to be an least a kernel of interest- maybe Bob took piano lessons for two months as a kid but then his parents stopped taking him, and he wants to get back into it. Otherwise, it's a lot of work for a small chance at a reward, and those desperate "here to meet someone" vibes are going to be apparent. I wouldn't show up at a gamer conference or a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:10 PM
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Saying women “never think about divorce raping” is woman worshipping. "Divorce rape" is a profoundly offensive term that gets thrown around here like it's nothing. It's not rape. The male equivalent of rape is rape, not "dIvOrCE rAPe". The manosphere seems to love applying very extreme terms to things that are not at all what that term is describing, which is offensive to everyone who has ever gone through what the term actually means. E.g. "divorce rape", "alpha widow", "short/ugly/incel genoci…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:02 PM
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There's a difference between disagreeing with someone, and agreeing with them about something that doesn't benefit you or the group that you belong to. For example, I believe that affirmative action isn't the answer to closing the racial achievement gap. I don't think that cash reparations should ever be paid by the government to descendants of slaves, as the fraud in that scenario would be rampant and, even if we could somehow ensure that the only ones who received it were descendants of slaves…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:51 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? These are stats from abortion patients. Obviously they're using abortion. I'm not saying there's zero abortion patients who are there because they were irresponsible idiots, but they're not "the majority" at all, and you can't ban an entire medical procedure because some people need it because they were stupid. It would be like banning chemotherapy for lung cancer because some of the patients smoked 8 packs of cigarettes a day. You need to decide whether your…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:19 PM
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We just hate the large number itself, we are disgusted by the number. All of the other rationalizations are made in the back of our minds. But why? I can't think of a reason that you'd be disgusted by the number itself, other than that you see her as an object that's been "used" by other people. Many of the guys that post on here seem to not want their women to have had any lives before them or outside of them. I've read stories of guys getting insecure because their girlfriend/wife was even att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:18 PM
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This is statistically untrue. More than half of abortion patients are already mothers 14% of abortion patients are married and another 31% are cohabitating Half were using some form of birth control at the time they got pregnant It's not "majority" women on the "cock carousel" who let Chad hit it raw or whatever the fuck you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:25 PM
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A man’s issues with body count is the actual NUMBER itself. That’s just a side note. Yeah, and if he's low N himself, it makes sense because of the concern over whether their partner values them, is likely to cheat, or whether their differing levels of experience creates a power differential (a guy who "played the field", even if he's the same age as me or even a year or two younger, is going to have the advantage of experience- never mind if he's older). The ones I have an issue with are high N…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:14 PM
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Again, this would be like me not caring about an issue that could get my own father or brother killed because "men have rejected and ignored me in the past so I don't care about any of them; they're all part of the problem". This does make me wonder how a gender-swapped version of the situation I've been in (lonely college guy sent home because of pandemic and now quarantined with 60 year old diabetic mom) would work- I really think a non-zero number of these guys wouldn't have minimized going o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:06 AM
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What low N count woman wants a high N count man? Honestly, I'd be worried that I didn't mean as much to him as he did to me. You know how that creates resentment in men? Yeah, it creates resentment in women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:42 AM
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Expanding health care? Not for him he still has to pay. I wasn't aware that jobs don't offer insurance benefits to single men, nor that low-income single men don't have access to Medicaid. Nor that a single-payer health care system would exclude single men. Minimum wage? Nobody cares about his wage so screw them too. If he's working for minimum wage... and the minimum wage rises... he gets a raise. If he's NOT working for minimum wage, what is he bitter about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:31 AM
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Exactly. I mean, even IF not getting your dick wet was oppression on par with, let's say, Jim Crow laws... if a black person says "I don't care about issues that mostly or only affect white people (i.e. the war in Ukraine) because white people have oppressed us for hundreds of years", they're still a complete piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:13 AM
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I mean, the fact that they need to be getting pussy in order to care about women's rights is disturbing. They don't have mothers? Sisters? Basic human empathy? This would be like me not caring about black men getting shot by police because I don't have a man. I have a father, a brother, uncles, cousins, and in the future may have a boyfriend/husband or son(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:09 AM
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Because the people who say "I read it for the self-improvement, not the misogyny" are still absorbing the misogyny whether they want to admit it or not. Usually these guys are the ones that say, "I don't hate women, I just acknowledge that they're different from men." Okay, so how are women different? "Well, they're less rational, more emotional, are like children..." So you're a misogynist. "No, because I've never explicitly said the words 'I hate women!' God, you feminists think that everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:16 AM
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I mean, that doesn't mean these other women weren't also doing photoshoots. They could have just been going to/coming from their "set". Or they could have just been exhibitionists. I'm just saying I have never seen anyone dressed like that in public (besides students at my school on our way to the festival/concert we have every year) during daylight hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:06 AM
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No one is "pro abortion". No one wants more abortions to happen. It's a last resort, like a root canal or open heart surgery. People aren't "pro heart surgery", they're "pro fewer people dying of heart disease". No one who's not a eugenicist wants to force women to abort. That's equally as much of a human rights violation as forcing women to carry to term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:59 AM
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Only explanation I could think of would be models (Instagram or otherwise) using the park for a photo shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:56 AM
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If a woman has a hoodie and sweats on, she's presumably doing something so mundane that there's no point in dressing decently for it (quick grocery/drugstore run, doctor's appointment, something along those lines). Therefore it's a fairly safe bet that she doesn't expect or want to be approached. Hoodie and sweats, unless she's exercising, means "I'm only outside right now because I have to be and cannot wait until I can lie back down in bed".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:51 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen people in this kind of clothing during the day. It's always on weekend or holiday nights when they're presumably going to or coming from parties/concerts/bars. Can't imagine why anyone would want to dress that way to the park (presumably this was during the day and not at night... if it was at night, they could have been going to/coming from a night out, or they could have been prostitutes. During the day... maybe models using the park for photo shoots?)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:42 AM
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I know of two countries where killing a newborn by the mother is the only type of murder punishable by probation My only (rudimentary) knowledge is of U.S. law, and this discussion is about what the Supreme Court of the United States did. So obviously, in a discussion of U.S. law, I'm talking about the U.S. Whether or not some other country on the other side of the globe gives out harsh sentences for infanticide is not relevant to this specific discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:52 PM
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That's a completely separate argument that's not what I was talking about. You can't say "well if men aren't entitled to have sex with unwilling women, why are women entitled to have birth control and abortions? jUsT dON'T hAvE sEX!" That's comparing apples to fucking kayaks. I have seen the argument on here that "if insurance covers birth control and gynecological care for women it should cover prostitutes for men, because rEPrODUcTIVE hEALtH mATTeRS". Which is beyond offensive and stupid. "Rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:29 PM
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Still not legal. Might get a lighter sentence if it's a situation like "teenage mother raped by family member couldn't get an abortion and suffocated baby immediately after birth", but if a woman chooses to give birth to a rape baby and then snaps and suffocates him/her 5 years later, not so much. Also, insanity defense is both a) near impossible to plead successfully and b) doesn't mean the "criminally insane" person gets to go free- even if the judge believes the insanity plea, the defendant w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:40 PM
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That's one of the reasons why the "well you prevented a potential life!" argument doesn't make sense. We take actions every single day that prevent potential lives- not just of our own biological descendants, either. We also take actions every single day that will allow other potential lives to exist. The "butterfly effect" means that something as inconsequential as you deciding to catch the 1:18 bus instead of the 1:25 bus could mean life or death (or existence or non-existence) for someone. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:30 PM
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"Abortion is about escaping responsibility! You chose to have sex, so you should just accept the consequences of your actions!" Okay, so using that logic, smokers who develop lung cancer should be denied chemo because they chose to smoke. People who contract COVID should be denied ventilators because it was their choice to be unmasked/unvaccinated. People who develop cavities should be denied root canals because it was their choice to not brush/floss properly. I could go on. "That's different be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:24 PM
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It's logically consistent. No one is entitled to the use of another person's body without their consent. Ergo, you're not entitled to sex if no one wants to have sex with you. If you find someone who does want to have sex with you, assuming they're mentally capable of consenting, you're free to have sex with them. You're also not entitled to use someone else's body as a host to keep yourself alive. It's not "sExISm", because no one is saying that women are entitled to sex with unwilling partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:16 PM
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I'm just going to post this story in response to the open relationships thread from yesterday: My first exposure to the concept of "open relationship" was when my best friend freshman year of college convinced his poor sap of a boyfriend to open their relationship (i.e. let him fuck other people- the boyfriend was so obsessed with him that I doubt he went and found anyone else, and my friend was definitely aware of this because he said it at the time). Obviously a different dynamic from an open …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:09 PM
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the Supreme Court Justices being doxxed How do you doxx a publically known figure whose contact information is already out there for the public? It's not like no one knew who the Supreme Court justices were, what they looked like, or how to contact them before now. their documents being leaked You mean a draft of the opinion that they were going to release to the public in a month or two anyway? This is like comparing a singer who had their unfinished album leaked to one who had their nude photo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:58 PM
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Jesus Christ just wear a MAGA hat at this point. The political horseshoe is a circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:52 PM
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It obviously depends on what he's posting. If he's a bluepiller or nopiller here to call out and laugh at the insanity: "Hey, I comment on that subreddit too! Isn't it ridiculous that some people actually believe that kind of shit? [spends next 15 minutes cathartically ranting about redpillers]" If he's a redpiller or "purple"piller: "Uh... I just got a phone call and... I need to go... iron my dishes. Yeah. I've also gotta take my pet fish for a walk. Maybe next time though... [blocks number]"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:49 PM
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Because they think that women and attractive men don't have to do any of these things. They can just sit at home and do nothing all day while suitors line up outside their door. It's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:51 AM
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Then why do boys still perform better? Because they're just that great? If so, why does girls performing better than boys at language show an anti-male bias, and not that girls are just that great?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:49 AM
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We can see from teacher assessments that boys that are being assessed by their teachers are being being downgraded relative to where they would have done in exams There might be a related but alternative explanation for this: teachers prefer students that are easier to teach- the ones that sit down, shut up, and are willing to listen and learn. Boys are more likely to be disruptive students than girls are (for example, boys with ADHD are often the hyperactive type whereas girls with ADHD are oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:38 AM
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What parts of education do you think are anti-male, and why doesn't this show up in math and science classes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:44 AM
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If they're really that much more interested in STEM, why the martyr complex? You're doing what you enjoy, right? Why are you (general you) nailing yourself to a cross over it and why are you insistent on proving it's superior to everything else? Also, it depends on what the definition of "pays well" is, which is a moving target depending on time period, location, and stage of life. For someone who just graduated college and lives in a low COL area, $35k/year is a pretty sweet deal when it's more…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:59 AM
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I agree that a lot of guys put too much emphasis on penetration because that's what makes women (fake) orgasm in porn, but I disagree that dicks aren't important at all. Obviously if a guy had a micropenis, most women would care- he might be able to get them off through foreplay, sure, but it's not the same feeling as penetration. But it's usually not dudes with micropenises, it's dudes with average sized penises who are upset that they don't have a 12" monster schlong, which pretty much no one …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:51 AM
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Isn't STEM the only place where boys outperform girls in schools? Yes, and I think it's incredibly telling that the same people who think that boys outperform girls at STEM because they're just smarter are the people claiming that the rest of education has an "anti-male bias". "If I do better than you, I'm better; if you do better than me, the system is rigged." I also think that it's one of the reasons that people love to promote STEM as the only subject worth studying and paint all liberal art…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:35 AM
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Getting an education is hell. Taking care of yourself and being in shape is hell. Women walk around with measuring tapes and compare guys' heights and cheekbones to a decimal point. 🤣 That's one reason why I always laugh at the height thing. I'm 5'9" and I can't tell the difference between a 5'11.5" guy and a 6'0" guy. I doubt a 5'1" woman would be able to while straining her neck to look up at him. I don't understand the obsession with dick sizes for that reason (no one's going to whip out a ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:26 AM
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If you’re quoting directly, then they are obviously blowing it out of proportion. For the first person, I paraphrased what was said and mashed several comments together into one statement. The second person said "why should the partner who sacrificed and chose a job they hate in order to pay the bills have to support the partner who didn't do that?", basically implying that going into STEM (since we were talking about software engineering) is a sacrifice. Does that count as “settling” for STEM a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:15 AM
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What is with the STEM martyr complex that some people on here have? I've encountered two guys this past week who essentially said, "No one likes STEM, but men have to make the noble sacrifice of majoring/having careers in it because it pays well and men have to make a lot of money in order to have any value in this cucked society. Women don't have to do this because they can just beta buxx, so they're free to major in bullshit like poetry." Dude, some people like STEM. Some people have an intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:30 AM
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Listen, OP. I don't like the idea of casual sex either. For me, being touched by strangers (especially in any intimate way) is really awkward/uncomfortable. I also think that casual sex is usually a shit deal for women, and even men to a certain extent. However, the way you've described sex here makes me think you're either a sex-repulsed asexual, a repressed religious fundamentalist, or a child that has not yet hit puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:14 AM
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I mean yes, you should've become a software engineer. Why wouldn't you want to make more money? Because the other partner might not be good at math and have other skills that are better utilized in some other position? Because the other partner hates engineering? Money isn't the only thing that matters when considering a career, and the world needs people to do other jobs besides software engineering. But also why is the partner in this situation who does what they enjoy in spite of it not payin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:05 AM
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More money =/= more work. If she's a nurse while he's a senior manager at an insurance company or whatever, it's beyond unfair that she should have to come home for a 12 hour shift and do his laundry because "I make more money hurr durr". Same thing if he's a construction worker and she's the senior manager. If one or both people are still establishing themselves and they're at different stages of life, that also matters (e.g. 38 year old dating 23 year old and making them do all the housework b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:34 AM
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Yes. Even if he "follows it for self-improvement and doesn't follow the misogyny" or whatever, it shows that our values are fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:25 AM
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Any man who thinks that women are the oldest teenager in the room should stop dating 19 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:19 AM
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If you're allowed to bring up theoretical scenarios than I should be able to also No one said you couldn't bring up theoretical scenarios. This is a debate subreddit, and theoretical scenarios are a major tool of debate. If the individual is making less money but is on the path to make an income on par with their partner I see no issue with a 50/50 split. So... what if they chose different fields and one's field pays less than the other? Tough shit, should have become a software engineer instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:05 AM
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I disagree that someone making way more should work the same amount of chores. Again, more money doesn't = works harder. You can't say that if she's an RN and he works some 9-5 office job, she should have to do all or most of the chores because he makes more money. Let me give an example (these are characters in a book I wrote): the guy is an accountant in his late 20s, and the girl is a law student who also works as a waitress and is two years younger. He makes more money than she does, but bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:18 PM
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not enough to overcome severe mental issues like autism. It depends on how severe the autism is. If your autism is so severe that you needed to attend a special ed school (or even be part of the special ed program within a regular school), then yes, obviously that's going to impede your chances even if you would be a "Chad" otherwise (in fact, the taller and more muscular an autistic guy is, the scarier he'll be to other people. My brother has severe autism and is 6'6", and if he wasn't a giant …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:51 PM
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"Not model tier" doesn't mean "ugly". ER would absolutely not be out of place at most of the frats at my college, and my school is known for having attractive guys (I've seen several articles calling it the "Top 20 school with the hottest students"- no, that's not why I applied.) Have you ever seen photos of the guys on incel forums? Most of them are probably in the 5-7 range. One time on here I was talking to a user who said he "looked like Quasimodo", and when I saw his picture I was certain I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:30 PM
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My first exposure to the concept of "open relationship" was when my best friend freshman year of college convinced his poor sap of a boyfriend to open their relationship (i.e. let him fuck other people- the boyfriend was so obsessed with him that I doubt he went and found anyone else, and my friend was aware of this). Obviously a different dynamic because these were 18 year olds in a month-long relationship before it became "open", but honestly, I think that the younger both the relationship and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:27 PM
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Honestly, I can't fault a woman whose husband suggested an "open relationship" (and in 90% of cases where it's the husband's idea, he's thinking that he'll go off and bang Stacy, Naomi, Maria and Mei Ling and she'll sit at home waiting for him to come back to her) for getting dicked left and right by Chad, Tyrone, Enrique and Chang, or all of them simultaneously. Fuck around? Find out. Same thing as when one person suggests a "break" expecting their partner to just lie in wait for them while the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:06 PM
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Elliot Rodger was attractive, and yet...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:38 PM
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I mean, sure, it doesn't personally affect you right now... but it might. Same as me. I'm not sexually active and may have issues getting pregnant when I want to be, so I'm not as actively afraid as I would be if I were currently sexually active. However, I know that this ban could affect me in the future. Even if I never have sex except for procreation, I could get pregnant intentionally, have an ectopic pregnancy or some other life-threatening complication, and need a termination to save my ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:49 AM
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Like the notion that the guy should always pay and not even expect their date to pay attention to them If she doesn't want to pay attention to him... why is she... on a date with him? That has nothing to do with paying, even. That's just basic courtesy. No, paying doesn't buy you sex or a second date, but like... not paying attention to your date defeats the purpose of a date. that even if a guy makes 5x more than his wife that chores should be evenly divided. Are we talking about a scenario whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:13 AM
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People who don't have sex wanting to ensure that no one else gets to have sex. Funny, I grew out of that when I was a teenager, while these are allegedly grown ass men...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:04 AM
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155 is a healthy weight for women over 5'7". What are we supposed to do then? Starve ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:52 AM
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It's logically consistent. No one is entitled to the use of another person's body without their consent. Ergo, you're not entitled to sex if no one wants to have sex with you. If you find someone who does want to have sex with you, assuming they're mentally capable of consenting, you're free to have sex with them. You're also not entitled to use someone else's body as a host to keep yourself alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:46 AM
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Except, you know... poverty...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:17 AM
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Give one example of these "self-serving takes". Not the user, just what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:04 AM
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Examples of these "FDS level takes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:44 AM
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Look at the threads about Amber Heard. Look at the threads about Jada Pinkett Smith from 6 weeks ago. We absolutely call out individual shitty women and the shitty minority of women as a whole. We just don't take responsibility for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:31 AM
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Sounds like it's just a math summer camp for high school girls. Maybe consider why that bothers you so much. It has nothing to do with how mathematics is taught in a regular K-12 or college setting, and is therefore irrelevant to the discussion. The only times feminism have come up in my college education have been: 1) in an ancient African history course, discussing family structures in precolonial societies- there was no "indoctrination" here, as discussing cultural relativism was part of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:39 AM
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But the likelihood of a woman achieving actual sexual satisfaction from a complete stranger who's only fucking her because "any hole's the goal" is vanishingly low... so why even do it? Can't imagine wanting to be uncomfortable at best and in pain at worst, and risk diseases, pregnancy, and potential violence, for a guy I'm not even attracted to and who I know isn't attracted to me. The only explanation would be simply not being aware that ONS sex doesn't work like it does in porn/erotica, but y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:23 PM
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Maybe take literally any class that isn't in the Gender/Women's Studies department? Nobody is teaching calculus or geology or some shit with a feminist slant. That's not possible. Even though you will have probably have to take a history or cultural analysis course at some point, you can do that without it having anything to do with feminism. If you mean that there will be feminists on campus and that you'll have to sit through presentations about sexual harassment (which are not even gendered, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:09 PM
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But that still doesn't answer why it's so important for you to get laid at that specific point in time that you'll take anyone. Not to mention that everyone knows what "last call" is, so any woman who you approach at closing time KNOWS that she's your last option... I can't see that really getting anyone in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:57 PM
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I'm often confused by how obsessed some people are with getting sex and how they spiral if they go a month without getting laid. I understand why people have the desire for frequent sex with their partner while in a relationship, but I'm not talking about that; I'm talking about people who seem to "need" frequent sex in general outside of the context of a relationship. See this SNL skit that was released a MONTH into the pandemic. I get that it's a joke, but people were really this desperate to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:46 PM
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If you really want a trip, go check out the Tulpas subreddit. That shit is wild. AFAIK tulpas is just roleplaying and those people are aware that they don't have an actual mental disorder. They want to for the "experience", which is odd, but it's like trying to induce lucid dreaming on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:25 PM
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It's because men look more masculine the older they get (or at least at, say, 40 vs. when they're 18), and women are attracted to men who look like they're in our own peer group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:17 PM
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Why do men always think everything that other men do is for sex or to attract women? Nobody’s trying to anonymously shoot their shot through Reddit when we can swipe on tinder Some people are so obsessed with getting laid that they think that everything other people do is a means to that end, including arguing with randoms on the Internet. I'll never forget my first argument on here, where the now-defunct account said that me responding to him because he was an asshole was proof that women love …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:01 PM
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I absolutely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:34 AM
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The initial spark of attraction is instant, yes. But in the vast majority of cases, women can develop attraction for someone that didn't provide us with an initial spark (most of the guys I've crushed on were guys that I didn't notice instantly- like, if someone had pointed them out to me and asked if I thought they were attractive, I would have said yes, but otherwise they were just some other person in the background- and only after learning a little bit more about them did I become interested…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:06 PM
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I absolutely hate it on here when women are asked questions and then accused of being liars when our answers don't line up with the preconceived notions of the asker. However, in this instance, I do think that there is an element of "saying what we're supposed to say" because I know that if I had been asked this question 8 or even 6 years ago, I would have said "well I would need a deep emotional connection before I wanted to have sex with someone" because I thought that was the "correct" answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:19 PM
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The average body count for women is 12 for Christ’s sake Do you have a source for this? According to the CDC it's 4.3. Also, entirely plausible to be attracted to 12 people in a way that goes beyond aesthetics throughout the duration of an entire lifetime. in every city there’s Chads with +300 body counts for no reason other than they’re handsome I think that anyone with a 300+ body count (which is like, what, 0.01% of the population if even?) has that for reasons that go beyond them being hot. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:59 PM
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So I've actually overthought this and even written it down for therapy purposes: The first step is physical attraction, which, obviously, is established immediately upon seeing a person. I do have a "type", but it's fairly broad (don't care about race, for instance) and I often still find guys attractive who don't fit into this "type". Even though physical attraction is immediate, mental attraction always makes a person appear more physically attractive to me (guys who were just okay become hot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:38 PM
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There isn’t a woman in my sphere, not even my college aged interns, who would risk a one night stand with an utter stranger. Genuine question: how would you know anything about the sexual lives of your interns? Only the MOST hypersexual young people talk about their sexuality so freely that people who barely know them know about their sex lives. And I don't think even my super hypersexual best friend from freshman year's boss/supervisor knew about his sex life, just that he was an overall disast…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:45 PM
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Yeah.... somehow I feel like if I did this, my success rate, while not zero, would not be nearly as high. And somehow I feel like if a woman who was obese (or completely flat) and/or "post wall"- i.e., the majority of women- did this, there success rate WOULD in fact be zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:51 PM
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Let me guess: 10/10 thin white Stacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:32 AM
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One thing that I've learned about people through platonic relationships is that anyone who is an asshole to everyone besides you (or his/her "inner circle") will eventually be an asshole to you. People who don't behave in a kind and empathetic manner to the average person out in the world will sure as shit withdraw their "kindness" and "empathy" towards you the second you step out of line. "On the first date, watch how they treat the waitstaff; that's how they'll treat you in five years."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:42 AM
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So just walk away and hope that some other guy approaches and offers to buy a drink? What if no one does? You can't just go up to a guy and ask him to buy you a drink; he has to offer first. (This might also play into why I don't understand hooking up with multiple people in one night, or trying to. It may have actually been you that I had this conversation with, but IME a potential hookup is basically like your SO for the night)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:37 AM
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And I still go out myself, I just don't pay for my own drinks. How? Even as a woman, I'd assume that IF a guy offered to buy me a drink, it would mean one drink and not $60 worth of drinks. Are you only going out on your birthday or something when your friends will pay for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:12 AM
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Yeah, I heard about that in college but it honestly seemed pointless for the setting because you don't have to pay for drinks at frat parties to begin with. So I think it was more about not having to show up to the party sober and getting as drunk as possible ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:47 AM
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This is a tangentially related question based on the "how easy is it to get free stuff for being a woman" thread, but it's been something I've been wondering for years: How the fuck do people afford to get drunk at bars? I've been to one actual bar before and the drinks ranged from $7 to $14 (before tax). I drank one hard seltzer for $7 and nothing else in part because I didn't want to spend half the money in my bank account at a fucking bar. If "drunk" is 5 drinks, which would probably work for…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:41 AM
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It obviously depends on how said trauma manifests itself. I have trauma too, but if his way of coping with his trauma is to rage and punch walls over minor shit, that's obviously a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:30 AM
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I can think of three times where I have been given free stuff by men (family members, close friends, and people I was working for at the time don't count, since young men also get free stuff in those contexts): When I was 20, I went to a coffee shop on campus and an employee comped the iced coffee and croissant that I ordered, for some unknown reason (I made a post the day it happened because I was genuinely confused). I think it was $6 or $7. When I was 21, I was at a hotel bar after a wedding …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:17 AM
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So he must have been cheating! Yeah! And emotionally unavailable! It wasn’t him crying or being short or poor! Never those reasons! If she left him because he cried, why wouldn't she have left shortly after he cried? Why wait months or years? If she left him because he was short or poor, why did she date a short or poor guy in the first place? I suppose that he could have become poor by circumstance during the relationship, but he couldn't have become short during the relationship. You can claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:31 PM
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So if a guy cries in front of his girlfriend, and then gets dumped by said girlfriend months or years down the line, he got dumped because he cried? Is this why so many men say that they got dumped for crying? "It totally wasn't because I always left the kitchen a mess and was constantly DMing other women on Instagram! It was because I cried in front of her when my grandma died 3 months into our relationship! Women hate weak men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:08 PM
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Anxiety works in mysterious ways and sometimes a person's anxiety will flare up in one situation but not another... but like... if it were me, I would be far more worried about the opinion of the person I was trying to form a relationship with than the opinion of the waitstaff whom I would most likely never see again. Talking to strangers bothers me very little if there's some sort of reason behind it (i.e. an employee-customer interaction). I hate feeling like a little kid because of my anxiety…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:42 PM
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Who said anything about who paid for the dinner? Did you read the linked post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:35 AM
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I know you're trying to make fun of FDS, but you realize that FDS doesn't expect men to complain to the waiter about their food on their behalf, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:07 AM
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Women generally are turned off by male weakness, prefer to be the submissive partner, and don’t like to lead. Water is wet. How is this evidence that she "wants to be the submissive partner"? Do you think she would ask such a thing of him or any other man? You understand that not being the "dominant" partner doesn't make you the "submissive" partner, right? No one likes having to advocate for another adult of sound body and mind as though they are a child. Let another another adult whom they bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:05 AM
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I was wondering what you guys think of this old AITA thread from about a year ago. My take: the comments show how some bad faith actors have taken the term "toxic masculinity" and used it to apply to any time a man is expected to take responsibility for his own life. I'm a woman with social anxiety. I hate going out places to eat by myself (I always do takeout and eat at home). However, if I were in her date's shoes, I would never dream of asking someone else to complain about my food on my beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:14 AM
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Yeah, SOMEONE has to do it. That's why I said that obviously, as a society, we need people to do STEM. My point was that it doesn't have to be YOU who manages the nuclear reactor. Someone else will do it. That also has nothing to do with my point- do you think people only go into STEM out of a sense of obligation and not because they like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:42 AM
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No one has go to into a STEM career (societally obviously the world needs STEM jobs, but no specific individual needs to go into STEM). There are kids who are pressured to go into STEM careers by their parents because of money and prestige, but this happens to girls as well as boys. Furthermore, do you think that people only go into STEM because they "have" to? That no one genuinely enjoys it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:30 AM
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...Yes? Of course? What's the point you're trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:12 AM
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my grandmother worked too but that was in the 1960s. So you're aware that black women have been working outside the home for decades... so how is "not having to work" a "benefit" of sexism? im not supposedly back. im black. I mean, since I can't see you, I can only go based off of your flair... and the use of the term "black" implies that you're from a Western country (AFAIK Africans living in Africa don't call themselves "black"), which is why I was surprised. women in my uni do it too. we go t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:10 AM
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....before he started acting like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:50 AM
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it’s satisfying that im not expected to have a full time job for the rest of my adult life. Where are you from that you aren't expected to have a full-time job for the rest of your adult life? Maternity leave here is 6 months at best. After that? Get your ass back to work. And you're supposedly black too? Our female predecessors have been working outside the home since slavery ended. My grandmother was shamed by the other women on the block for staying home with her children back in the literal …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:49 PM
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There is an entire body of scientific research about this phenomenon (I actually made this my capstone project for one of my classes), but sure, it's all just "cowardly". I will link you to the studies I synthesized in my literature review if you want, but I have a feeling you're not interested in actually learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:38 PM
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Why would STEM be tougher for you intellectually than men if you are our complete intellectual equals? Stereotype threat is a phenomenon that occurs when there is the opportunity or perceived opportunity for an individual to satisfy or confirm a negative stereotype of a group of which she is a member. The threat of possibly satisfying or confirming the stereotype can interfere with the subject’s performance in a variety of tasks, including but not limited to academic performance. How is doing PR…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:17 PM
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And what if it's something that can't be solved? Women don't usually sit around and complain about things that we can easily solve ourselves ("I'm out of milk, let me complain about it instead of walking to the store and buying some"). We complain when something is out of our hands to solve (or we could solve if not for some barrier like money or time), or can't be solved by anyone at all. You're telling me you're never upset over anything more complex than, idk, a broken phone that you can just…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:30 PM
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I am more willing to help a woman lift something heavy Women biologically have less upper body strength. That's not sexism, it's reality. Would you help a young boy, a disabled man, or an elderly man lift something heavy? put in the extra ten minutes to explain more complex issues so they understand it This is sexist. Women aren't dumber or less capable of understanding complex topics than men are- at least not BECAUSE they're women. Again, I ask if these women you're referring to are new to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:55 PM
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Exactly. That's why it always bewilders me when men on here act like some tattooed thug outside a liquor store going "yo shawty lemme smash" is a universal panty-dropper. It's a nuisance at best and a reason to cross the street at worst. It's annoying when black guys do it and it's even WORSE when dudes of other races (mostly white, let's be real) fo it because they think the way to impress a black woman (even one in a floral top and skirt wearing a bookbag and walking out of the local community…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:48 PM
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Kinda difficult to talk about people growing up to be attracted to people similar to their opposite-sex (if heterosexual) parent without it crossing over into Oedipus/Electra complex, but there is some truth to this. I like guys who are similar to my dad personality-wise (I mean, similar to his personality now, NOT how he supposedly was when he was younger bc I know that guy would make a terrible partner).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:38 PM
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Do you think he got more fangirls before he went "bad boy" or after? I was one of the little girls that fangirled for him and finding out he was getting into trouble and shit a few years later was a major disappointment. Like, I had several conversations with other girls my age about what a disappointment it was. Yes, we were kids, but adult women weren't going to fangirl after a 15 year old singer in the first place, so naturally after he became an adult himself he started getting adult fangirl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:28 PM
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So for me, abortion was the defining moment of my teenage years, despite never even coming close to a situation where I would need one. Long story short, my mom had two abortions before I was born, and after seeing fake gore photos of "abortions" on the Internet I was horrified and chose to blame my loneliness (and everything else, from my premature birth to my brother's autism to my mom's cancer) on those abortions. I gave my "older siblings" names and spoke about them like they were actual bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:08 AM
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I feel like any guy with a functioning brain would realize there was nothing more to it than that when she chose to fuck another guy posing as her roommate instead of her actual roommate who she presumably spends a lot of time alone in a house with. I looked again and I didn't see anything in the post about her pretending to her followers that the stranger was her roommate. There was no indication that she was selling that post as part of the "roommate theme". Nothing was said about the caption …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:53 PM
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If you were responding at least every few hours up until that point, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:16 PM
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Guy starts off as a weird, probably rightfully friendless loser. That's a BIG assumption. All he said was that he "liked his alone time" and that his roommates "got him to go out and meet people". That just means he was an introvert, not that he was a "weird friendless loser". He then eventually autistically reads into porn his roommate makes as if she's actually suggesting she wants to fuck him even though she's never given any indication whatsoever that that was the case before. I'm just going…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:12 PM
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Fucking your roommate seems to be a common trope in pornographic content. It is, but she still chose for herself to play into that trope out of all the other tropes that she could have used, when she actually has a single male roommate. Not only that, but she used her actual roommate's space as a prop. Also, was she even aware than he was consuming her content? No, but people usually don't expect their hornyposts to ever be seen by the subject of them. I'd assume that this was a fantasy that she…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:30 PM
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I feel like the fact that she CHOSE to make that the theme of her content makes his assumption fairly reasonable. If she were an adult film star who was cast in a video with a roommate-with-benefits storyline, sure, then it would be ridiculous to assume that she wanted to fuck him because of that. But she cast HERSELF in this storyline when she could have chosen any other angle, and it wasn't even one post, it was a running theme. Not only that, but she was using his space as a prop for her actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:10 PM
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Just saw this post on r/TIFU and was wondering what you guys think. I know that this is probably going to be turned into proof that AWALT, but thankfully there seems to be a consensus, including from female profiles, that the roommate is absolutely out of line here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:26 PM
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Seriously, it's either double-texting "hey" after 5 minutes of no response or going dead silent for 3 days. No in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:22 PM
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Yeah, and honestly it's more about that versatility/the look itself than "tricking" people into thinking that wavy brown hair naturally grows out of your black scalp when you had curly black hair last week. But idiots will continue to respond to it. Honestly, in college I had a friend who had short natural hair and suddenly became visible to men (mostly on Tinder/Bumble, but still) when she got a wig. To me it looked horrible, but it was like they couldn't tell. I also noticed that by changing m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:14 PM
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You could also just not say anything. You don't have to go out of your way to comment on it either way. It's pretty fucking obvious that my hair isn't suddenly loose and curly with auburn highlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:23 PM
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As a black woman, I have learned that people who are not black women themselves cannot spot a wig/weave/etc. for shit. Even bad extensions. I've had people ask me "what made you decide to do your hair like that?" when I was wearing a $15 drawstring ponytail. Like, bro, you're my cousin and you should know that my hair isn't this texture and also didn't grow this much in the 5 months since we've seen each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:25 AM
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It actually makes me feel less insecure knowing that I could also look like that with makeup/plastic surgery/filters and underneath all of that they're just normal women. It's like looking at celebrities without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:20 AM
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I just clicked on a random post. All the comments were from female profiles. Some with pics. Aren't you a woman? Why do you want to die on this hill that women aren't also visual? The fact that it takes more than a guy being hot for us to be willing to actually fuck him in real life doesn't mean we don't like looking at hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:28 AM
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Sure, there are definitely some gay (or bi) dudes commenting, but there's also a whole lot of straight (or bi) women. Again- if you aren't attracted to men, you won't get it. I used to think that girls were nicer looking than boys too, when I was prepubescent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:18 AM
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r/forearmporn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:03 AM
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Q4All: Where do you think the line is between being confident and just not having social awareness? I made a comment recently about a social skills workshop I attended that seemed very promising (before getting bogged down in blood-boiling arguments like I always seem to when I come on here to "be helpful" or positive in any way). It reminded me of another social skills workshop that I attempted last year, which was based around rejection therapy. I signed up for a "30 Day Rejection Challenge" g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:45 AM
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Never said that. Then why did you start talking about "most women" in response to my comment about women also facing rejection and disappointment? Never said that. Nobody has even mentioned bullies. My original comment: Like damn, someone needed to tell me and every other "weird girl" in school who has ever been mercilessly bullied that we could have just traded in our pussy passes for constant adulation and a life of ease. Your response: And objecting to an accurate trend is still misleading, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:40 PM
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Yes, the same way that a student who applies to 20 colleges will get rejected "more" than a student who applies to 5. That doesn't mean the student who applied to 5 "has it easier". Yes, as guys you're expected to be approachers, and as women we're expected to sit there and hope you deem us worthy enough to approach. If a woman doesn't get approached... then what, when approaching guys herself is going to make her even less desirable (again, some man will probably fuck her eventually, but he'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:01 PM
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Discussing prevailing trends is incredibly useful, even if the behavior doesn’t 100% universalize. And objecting to an accurate trend is still misleading, even if you can pick out an outlier. Mentally substitute “women” for “most women” and you will have a much better time. You think that "most women" don't experience romantic rejection ever in their lives? Sometimes these statements get universalized to not just dating and romance, but life in general. You think women don't face struggle and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:52 PM
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Yes, I know that it's easier for women to get matches on online dating. That said, more than half of those matches are solely interested in zero-effort sex, and that percentage increases the less desirable the woman is considered (not even ugly, but not skinny, wrong race, too old, etc.) Women don't deal with rejection like men do. It's just fact. For casual sex on online dating sites, sure. In actual romantic interactions in the real world, no. Some of y'all seem to believe that women never exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:38 PM
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CMV (actually, don't, my view on this won't change): too much of the discourse here insists on gendering universal human truths. Mostly, acting as though universal truths about success somehow only apply to men. "Telling people they need to love themselves first is gaslighting men because..." "Men have to 'be confident' because..." "Men need to have something going for them in their lives." Like, wtf do y'all think women do? Do you think we somehow never experience disappointment or frustration?…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:04 PM
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This guy and girl were dancing and eventually he asked if she wanted to leave with him. She said no after first but he was persistent. He asked her like 10-15 times. She eventually caved and walked out with him. Why would you (general you) WANT to have sex with someone who you had to pester/browbeat into it? Why would anyone want ANYTHING from someone they had to pester/browbeat into it? Jesus, I would feel pathetic if I asked to order a pizza 10-15 times until my dad/friends/whoever caved and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:46 PM
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I also thought it was like once in a few months for them, not like every other week or multiple times a week I'm clinically depressed and have emotional dysregulation from ADHD, and even I don't cry "multiple times a week" most weeks. That's a particularly bad episode. I think the last time I cried was last week, in therapy talking about an "omen" I received of my grandmother's death before it happened. People who aren't depressed (or actively grieving someone/something) don't even have things T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:30 PM
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I just got off of a Zoom call with a social skills coach that I found out about through Meetup. I've been to multiple "personal development" online sessions in the last two years, and some of them I've had to leave in the middle of because it felt worthless to stay focused, but I was beyond pleasantly surprised by this one. Most of the "skills" we practiced were things I already do in conversation, but I talked with the coach a bit about my specific situation and he offered me (and the rest of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:01 AM
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What makes you think that coming back at 25 is going to be any better?? Under 25 woman giving an opinion: "Little girl, your brain isn't finished developing yet!" Over 25 woman giving an opinion: "Post-wall bitter hag, you're just jealous and trying to fill the deep loneliness in your heart because you're not some man's housewife (which is the only way for women to be happy)!" I didn't say this to the dude who pulled the "your brain isn't finished developing" card, but I wish I had: "If I'm esse…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 06:02 PM
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Because those people are full of shit and think porn is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:32 PM
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"Bad bitch" also means the same thing as "girl boss"- focus on yourself, build a career, be successful. It doesn't always mean "hoe" and I'd assume a woman in her 30s or 40s isn't using it to mean "hoe". There seems to be a weird false dichotomy on here where a woman is either looking to get married tomorrow or she's looking to sleep with as many Chads as possible. Because 18-24 year old women usually don't want to be married now, it's assumed that we MUST be sleeping around. It's like people ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:13 PM
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I agree with most of this; however reading between the lines is "fuck lots of dudes in your 20s and then settle in your 30s", which is not appealing to men on an individual level. "Don't settle down while you're super young and can barely take care of yourself" =/= "spend your youth fucking a bunch of different dudes". I know, I received this advice when I turned 20 (from a man!) and I interpreted it as the latter so I dismissed everything he said, and he later had to clarify that that wasn't ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:09 PM
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Facts are facts that black girls are more likely to get pregnant than white girls who are the same socioeconomic class that they are? Discrepancies in race and teen/unintended pregnancy rates are because of poverty, not because poor impulse control is stored in the melanin or some shit. Otherwise white girls raised in trailer parks would be less likely to get pregnant than "token" black girls at private schools, which is beyond absurd. Even if you remove race from the equation, those discrepanci…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:38 AM
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What I consistently see is hatred from women, I see frustration from men. "Men are trash"= hatred "Females femoids are cumrags that shouldn't have the right to vote or work and should be given out as sex slaves by the government"= frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:54 AM
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MC-UMC white girls don’t just have “ooops” babies. It’s primarily a lower socioeconomic class problem. The "white" qualifier is pretty damn racist, isn't it? Are black/Latina/Asian middle class girls more likely to have "oops" babies in your world? Also, even without the "white" qualifier, MC/UMC girls still get pregnant accidentally. They just don't have babies accidentally, because Mommy and Daddy can afford to make the problem go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:34 AM
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A lot of guys here are weird, same applies to women. We're a merry gang of misfit weirdos, that's the beauty of reddit. Yeah, but I swear some of the people here have been in solitary confinement since they were 3 and their only interaction is 3 meals a day being pushed through a trapdoor. They're so far out of touch that it's literally unbelievable. An open relationship is not necessarily what I'm after when thinking about a LTR. So what are you thinking about? It's a person who works remotely …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:06 AM
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I hang out in liberal circles where it's normal for women to have casual partners without wanting a serious relationship. If the men these women were having casual sex with wanted a relationship with them, would they refuse? I also know guys who could pull and have casual sex but reject it due to their values. Yeah, this happens, although a lot of guys on here seem to think that it doesn't and that every man would sleep with as many women as he possibly could in the absence of social and legal c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:47 AM
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All I'm saying is that having a relationship does not make you automatically desirable to the opposite sex in general. Yeah. I obviously know that myself. It's not fair to yourself and the other person involved to start a relationship because you feel you can't do any better. Yeah, I know that NOW. I didn't know that 7 years ago when this clusterfuck of a situation started. After years of believing that no one would ever want to be my boyfriend, I was just glad that someone wanted to be my boyfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:50 AM
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I mean, if you have many partners who desire you and who you can love, then you have a rich love life. You are defining it as disturbing but to someone who has zero options, the guy who has a different date every other week has a rich love life. What I'm talking about is how some of the men on here seem to not even want a wife or a committed partner at all, which is why they don't care about personality/compatibility. They just care about "spinning plates" and think that the guy "spinning plates…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:03 AM
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It was luck - she was family of my best friend at the time and we got to spend time together. This is... a completely normal way to start a relationship. All relationships are about "luck" to some degree. You have to be lucky enough to meet the person. Getting a partner every few years and later questioning yourself how much of that relationship was influenced by lack of options/intimacy is horrible. You start to wonder - how many red flags did I ignore because chemistry kicked in bundled togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:37 PM
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So the reason I'm asking about age is that because at 22 I had no expectation to have a rich love/sexual life. It was when I was dumped after 5 years by my high school sweetheart, who was my first everything. Wait, so you were in a relationship from 17-22... so you had reason to think you were desirable because you had a girlfriend... and you're telling me, whose only time in a relationship during those years were the 2 months before and after my 18th birthday, that I don't understand? You did b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:30 PM
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So you're saying you didn't have a relationship and/or fling for 4.5 years and nobody was interested/showed any attention? I mean, does "someone I made out with once" count as a "fling"? Because if it does, then it's 3 years (still a long time). You'd also have to define "attention". If "attention" means "someone asking me out on a date", that might be (checks calendar) 1.5 years but I never had confirmation that was meant to be a date and it also never actually happened. If you think catcalling…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:13 PM
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Most people who dish out advice on being 'happy with yourself' have never truly been alone for any prolonged time. Hi! I'm right here. I haven't had a romantic relationship in 4.5 years, and that's if you stretch the definition of "romantic relationship". One of the patterns I've seen in my life is that, the less anxious energy that I put into something, the more likely I am to get better results. This goes for everything, not just relationships. For example, in one of my classes, I spent weeks …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:15 PM
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Also, a lot of people are more physically attractive at 30 than they are at 18. Weight loss/exercise, orthodontics, better fashion and makeup/hair skills, etc. Idk why people think that teenagers are at peak hotness. The kids I went to high school with, and the high schoolers I see today, almost universally still look like awkward middle schoolers. You're telling me you'd rather date an 18 year old who still has frizzy hair, acne and crooked teeth than the same woman 7 years later after braces a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:45 PM
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After being off of here for a few days and touching grass for the first time in ages, I have concluded that this place is mind poison. CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:58 AM
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Hey, I also wanted to be a journalist when I was a teenager. Don't really know what I want to do 5 years later. What does your job consist of? Do you like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:13 PM
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Nope, you are. Just because you disagree with my counter argument does not mean I am missing your point. You did, because you responded to a rhetorical argument as though it were face value. I never said that people who have degrees don't sometimes work at McDonald's. I said that if you DON'T have a degree, and those are the only places you can work, you can accept it or try to change it (or starve). Just like, if you don't have anything to offer a woman and you can't get the ones you want, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:49 PM
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Except many workers at shitty jobs like that have high school and college degrees. Justice world fallacy isn’t a thing. Imagine missing the point by this far. Nobody is doing that beyond young teenagers who still do not understand how the world works. Wanting a job that allows them to afford a house and such doesn’t mean they feel entitled to a job at Google or whatever. It was a fucking analogy. It wasn't actually about work at all. It was making a point about dating. You are the equivalent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:22 AM
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“A lot of workers can get jobs. The ones they can get are just so low paying, treat you like garbage and offer so little that “they don’t count.” I mean... yes. If you don't have a high school diploma, and can only get work at McDonalds, your options are to accept working at McDonalds, go get your GED and look into higher education so that you might be able to get higher paying jobs one day, or starve. You don't get to storm into Goldman Sachs and demand to be made an associate, and you haven't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:48 AM
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There are so many black men who would pass up Gabrielle Union for Lena Dunham. It's ridiculous. They think that any white woman is a prize, because they hate themselves. There's a reason why there are so many black dudes with unattractive white women yet I've never seen an unattractive black woman with a white dude unless he was really unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:16 AM
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I don't get how there's so many guys on here claiming that their platonic female friends of similar age and income expect them to pay for things because they're dudes. Why would another broke 20something be more expected to pay for things than I am just because he has a dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:32 AM
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I'm dating an obese girl, 2 yrs open poly relationship. Sometimes it's actually a good fit, just mostly not. Dude, this is awful. She doesn't deserve to be treated like this because she's fat. Just like a short man doesn't deserve to be cheated on and used for money because he's short. But ya is it usually shitty, sure. But thats the dating market. If I could date fit girls I would. Have you considered that not having frequent sex is NOT a fate worse than death? I don't get why it's so hard for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 11:58 PM
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Omg no, shes way thinner than my gfs, that link is pretty hot. This website's "plus sized models" are a meme. They basically have a similar body type as me, but according to the site's own algorithim that I put my height/weight/frame into, I'm not even in their plus sized range. I'm hesitant about actually buying clothes from them because I don't know whether to go by the algorithim or their size chart and their models. But I'm seen multiple sites have "plus sized models" that are between a size…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 10:58 PM
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... At 16-24 years old? You know, the age where we're all supposed to be fucking as many Chads as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:41 PM
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Were they obese in the way that this is a plus sized model, or were they actually obese? If so, why did you date them if you didn't find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:40 PM
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Then why are 20 year old women with other 20 year old men who are as attractive as them or less and don't come from rich families?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:38 PM
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This is also true of my own peers today. I have not seen an influx of attractive men with less attractive women. Not even a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:31 PM
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you realize how unattractive a human has to be to be a 2, right? if we’re just talking looks, 1-3 territory is legit deformities and anomalies like being 300+ lbs. or one side of your face drooping more than the other side. I admit that my perspective is skewed by seeing how many people on subs like r/ugly with slightly unconventional faces think that they're 1/10 subhumans. I saw a woman call herself a 1 but her facial structure was above average (she just had bad skin). So there's that. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:29 PM
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to me, women can’t say “men will fuck anything” and also “men feel like their owed an attractive woman just for existing” Both of these things are true. SOME (obviously nowhere near all) men feel like they're entitled to an attractive woman, but they'll still fuck women that they don't find attractive. They just only want the most attractive women for relationships. So you get a dude who's mad that he can't get a 10, but "lowers his standards" and fucks a 6, and acts like she should be grateful …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:45 PM
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No, it isn't, but every time a woman says she wants someone with a job and a full head of hair the manosphere screams that she just wants Chris Evans. So I'd say it's fair. This exact post was about the sexes having the exact same mirrored complaints. This is a perfect example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 11:41 AM
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the number one reason why women are bitter is solely due to frustrations targeting men well above their league. Their problems are self-created. This doesn't apply the other way around. The fact that women are not attracted to their looksmatch should be acknowledged This is exactly what I'm talking about. Projection. Fat, acne-ridden neckbeards who don't shower are absolutely not attracted to their female counterparts. That's why some guys in nerdy hobbies complain about the lack of women in tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 04:18 AM
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I've seen plenty of repulsive womens phones and their messages and inboxes are full of men. Cant say the same for the opposite gender on the same side. Those messages are from men that want to FUCK THEM AND LEAVE. Not date them. Why is it so hard for you to understand that these are not the same thing? Not to mention that a woman can literally make stupid choices and others'll rush to her aid and pick up the pieces. They'll just literally call a man a dweeb, dork, weirdo etc. And this never happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:06 AM
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Nah, society specifically caters to women and even the fattest woman who's considered highly unattractive is gonna have success with dating. If getting used for sex by the sleaziest motherfuckers imaginable is "success", then sure. If you really think it's so easy for a below average woman to succeed in dating (not meaningless casual sex, DATING), go tell the subscribers of r/ForrverAloneWomen and the female subscribers of r/ugly and r/virgin that. I'm sure they'll love hearing that their standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:47 AM
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What would "balanced laws" look like to you? Every man receiving a 10/10 teenage virgin waifu by birthright? Legal consequences for women who turn men down for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:30 AM
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Because they're DMing the equivalent of "ayy bby wan sum fuk"? I wasn't sure whether you meant that you get rejected on Tinder or on Reddit. If you get rejected on Reddit... it's because sad/lonely women want our own support space without responding to random messages from men. I don't "reject" the messages I get, I just don't respond. It's the same reason why when some guy outside of a corner store approaches me and asks for my number, I make an excuse to leave. Maybe dude really was looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:25 AM
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Okay? How is that relevant? How are they supposed to see into your soul and know what your intentions are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:07 AM
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The women on Tinder aren't the women who are posting on r/virgin and r/ForeverAloneWomen, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:23 AM
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I don't give a fuck what "statistics show"! I care about what's happened in my OWN LIFE! The fact that some other woman with ADHD so mild it's barely noticeable might not have any problems romantically doesn't mean that my ADHD is suddenly irrelevant! It would be literally impossible for my neurodivergence to NOT affect my dating life. Kind of difficult to get a date when you can't... you know... SOCIALIZE.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:55 PM
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You really just want to be a victim my guy. Maybe consider that, rather than every woman on the planet rejecting you because you're short and non-white (while short non-white men continue to reproduce literally every day), maybe, just maybe, the problem is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:50 PM
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Wtf does this even mean? If women of color were only reproducing with white men, within one generation, there would be no babies being born that were not half white. If short women were only reproducing with tall men, within one generation, there would be no baby boys being born that would not grow into tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:47 PM
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Are you seriously arguing with me about my own fucking lived experience of being a neurodivergent woman? Do you have any clue what neurodivergence actually looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:43 PM
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Is an 8% difference statistically significant to you? Or are 71% of men considered "Chads" now? You can't tell anything about "looksmatching" from statistics, because attractiveness isn't objectively quantifiable. You can only tell by actually looking at examples. Look at your own family. Your neighbors. Your coworkers. Most couples are roughly equal in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:40 PM
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Not really. I was persistently subject to fake/mocking adulation as part of being bullied. For example, at eighth grade prom, this one guy (who had been pretending to like me as a running gag since October) basically forced me to dance with him (my friends had to physically pull me away) and there was briefly a circle of kids around us recording it. I 100% would have rather not been asked to dance at all than been subject to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:26 PM
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But then the women will come up with oh no he isn't 6 feet tall oh no he isn't white etc etc TIL no man who's under 6' and/or not white has ever gotten into a relationship. If this were even remotely true, short people and every race besides white would have DIED OUT BY NOW. I know a short Hispanic dude who just recently got married and had a kid, and he's been with his wife since she was "in her prime" at 18. But the same people who complain that women only want Chads would claim that she doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:08 PM
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All that middle part you wrote...it just pertains to you because now you have specifically laid out your own problem. Go on r/virgin or r/ForeverAlone. Pretty much all of them will have had experiences similar to mine- neurodivergence, bullying, peer rejection. Virginity is a symptom, not the disease. If literally everyone on r/virgin had sex tomorrow, after the brief high of finally losing it wore off, 100% of them would be just as miserable (and a good chunk of them would be MORE miserable). Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:51 PM
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Age range? I'm not who you replied to, but I agree with him. All the examples I can think of in my own life, the woman was under 30 when they got together. Some of these were high school relationships, others were couples that met when the woman was mid-20s and got married. None of them were "beta buxxing". Sometimes I wonder if y'all had families or attended school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:21 PM
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Exactly. Basically every couple that I can think of off of the top of my head, from my own parents to acquaintances from school, the woman and the man were/are roughly equally attractive. When there is a discrepancy, it's usually in favor of the woman, but even then it isn't huge. Water seeks its own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:12 PM
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Women,even on Tinder,have a plethora of options to choose from ...a plethora of options that want to painfully use their body as a fleshlight for 15 minutes and then never speak to them again. It's not about the physical act of sex. It's about intimacy and being desired. At least a man paying a prostitute is pretty much guaranteed an orgasm. A woman sleeping with some desperate dude off Tinder isn't. Even if I were guaranteed an orgasm from every desperate weirdo who DMs me, an assisted orgasm w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:03 PM
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I'm not bitter or believe AMALT but I'm gonna call out shit behavior when I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 09:52 PM
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This thread seems aimed towards people who are capable of getting dates to begin with. The real frustration comes from people who aren't. My cousin and I were both complaining about being rejected/ignored/strung along, not about how we had been treated by people we were in established relationships with. We both have very limited experience with the opposite sex. The only real difference is that I get harassed by creeps, and he doesn't, but no one in their right mind would say that getting catca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 09:51 PM
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Although it is justified to hold contempt to conform to the whims of gender that is out for their own agenda. They are only powerless because they cannot shut down their biological drive. It's understandable and doesn't invalidate their criticisms. Humans aren't perfect regardless. The fact that I had to look at your Snoo and guess your gender in order to tell which gender you were talking about perfectly exemplifies what I'm talking about. I could post this verbatim on FDS, get tons of upvotes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 09:46 PM
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No, but they involve lack of romantic access. It's arguable that what bitter men are actually complaining about is lack of romantic access, or else they would just pay or prostitutes. I can't tell you how many times I've had this conversation: Bitter Man: "It's so easy for a woman to lose her virginity! Just download Tinder!" Me: "It's so easy for a man to lose his virginity; just pay a prostitute." Bitter Man: "That doesn't count! It's not just about the physical act of sex! It's about intimacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 09:43 PM
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Even to this day I have relatives that say shit like “what a shame! You’ll meet the right one some day.” As if all of my accomplishments and everything about my life is absolutely worthless without having a girlfriend (and at my age, a wife). I can tell my own mother thinks I’m less-than for not having a partner. This absolutely happens to women as well. In fact, I'd argue that it happens more to women. A woman who never marries or has children is looked at as a failure, even if she's successful…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:10 PM
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I don't expect men to give a shit about my feelings over their personal safety, especially if they don't know me/are just meeting me. The problem is that men like you expect that from women, because you think that not always getting what you want is tantamount to a human right violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:54 PM
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Do you understand why that attitude would make men feel diminished and inferior? I don't give a shit. Your feelings aren't more important than my safety. You having a wounded ego is not worse than me being physically injured or dead. Get the fuck over it. "wE fEEl iNfERiOR". When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Your feelings not being the most important factor in other people's decisions (especially the decisions of strangers or people you just met) doesn't mean y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:11 PM
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Maybe not. But my point is that someone should be concerned for the man's failure as much as you are for the woman's safety. These are not equivalent concerns. Men's feelings amd boners are not as or more important than women's safety, no matter how much misogynists want to pretend they are. Again, what's in it for a person to exercise basic human decency? Can they go round to their friends and expect praise for it? Can they even expect to feel self-satisfied that they made the decent choice? Ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:35 AM
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“Some women made poor decisions therefore other women can’t possibly want to be safe.” Even worse- "a few teenage girls/very young women made poor decisions 50 years ago, in the same era where people were smoking on airplanes and having rampant unprotected sex. This is an accurate reflection of how women now, most of whom have access to the Internet and know the story of Ted Bundy/hpw he lured his victims, behave."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:54 AM
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Sometimes women who have social anxiety laugh at unfunny things as a nervous tic. Source: I do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:28 PM
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Men generally have to have hobbies that go beyond watching Netflix And women don't? Sure, they can get laid without having hobbies, but getting laid isn't the one goal that exists in life. Actually building social relationships is also a goal, and is a fuck ton more fulfilling than having some dude stick his dick in you- and women need to have hobbies and interests in order to do that. Also, most people do hobbies because they actually like their hobbies, not because they "need" to have them. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:15 AM
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The good girls/the saviors are the ones easily manipulated If by "manipulated" you mean "lied to and led to believe that he isn't a gangster", then sure. People don't have their rap sheets branded onto their arms, so I could fall for a guy that turned out to have a rap sheet if there were no obvious tells and he kept me totally separate from that element of his life. I'd be out the second I found out, though (assuming "rap sheet" didn't mean something like "got busted for smoking weed once as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:15 AM
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Only when they can use it to prove that AWALT. But women with other mental illnesses or disorders (anxiety, ADHD, autism, etc.) that make them less likely to behave in a way that's in line with their preconceived notions suddenly don't count because "they're mentally ill! most women aren't like that!" BPD is also a trauma response and has nothing to do with a predisposition towards violence, but the misogyny is so blatant that the ableism is barely noticeable!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:26 AM
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Let me guess, the girls they're dating are also have criminal lifestyles? White-collar career women aren't dating dudes who have rap sheets. Even bright girls unfortunate enough to be born in the hood who are trying to leave and go to college aren't dating dudes who have rap sheets. Water seeks its own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:15 AM
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"wHY aRE wOMeN cAUtIOuS oF mE? i'M a nICe gUY!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:10 AM
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Maybe "smart" isn't the right word, but you can be book smart and not street smart (which I believe is the problem of the majority of people here). Most of the guys who post on here are socially awkward STEMlords.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:38 AM
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Your original comment: It’s not “men” out to get you. It’s a very particular type of “man” that is pretty easy to spot in the wild. These men aren't "pretty easy" to spot in the wild. Avoiding thugs will reduce your danger by some, obviously, but most women already do that (unless they're involved in criminal activity themselves). Most women who are murdered by their partners were not dating drug kings with 57 prior arrests. They were dating completely average guys who worked in sales or law enf…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:52 PM
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Or, because they have power, they're less likely to get caught... The two most dangerous groups are the extremely poor and the extremely rich. The extremely poor have nothing to lose, and the extremely rich think they're above the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:46 PM
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So you say. What part of this do you doubt? That more than 50% of women aren't idiots? That I'm afraid of thugs? Oh, no, I must secretly have gina tingles for criminals and that's why I've been avoiding guys that seem like they could be criminals since I first started going places by myself at 13, years before I knew what TRP was or that women loving "bad boys" was even a thing. The reason serial killers like Ted Bundy are famous is due to their extreme rarity. Serial killers are rare, but garde…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:41 PM
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It’s not racist at all. More classist if anything. Because wealthy men are never dangerous psychos. Oh, did I say never? I meant "frequently".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:25 PM
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No woman who has two brain cells to rub together (which is at least a simple majority of women) would date that guy. The only response that a thug covered in tats elicits in me (a young black woman, so apparently this "should" be what I want) is terror. Thugs covered in tats are also not the only violent men that exist. Not even close. Look at literally every notorious male serial killer. Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer... all quiet, unassuming guys on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:17 PM
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I've said this before, but apparently dangerous psychos have "dangerous psycho" tattooed on their forehead and don't go to great lengths to look like decent people. That's why Ted Bundy drove up to women and told them "hey, I'm a dangerous psycho looking for someone to murder and rape their corpse, want a ride?" and they were too overcome with gina tingles to resist. /s Usually when men say this, they mean that any man who's taller and/or more physically attractive than them is obviously a dange…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:42 PM
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Okay, but even among young female students at prestigious universities who are surrounded by young rich tall men, most of us manage to not sleep with all, most, or many of them- especially if we're in a committed relationship beforehand. Attraction isn't mind control, but y'all love to project your own lack of self-control onto women (and somehow we don't get a pass for being mind-controlled by Chad but you do for being mind-controlled by Stacy).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:19 PM
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Men have wildly varying tastes So do women. There are some features that are considered universally attractive, but people have wildly varying "types" in terms of things like skin color, body type, etc. Also consider that men (as a whole) will still a fuck a woman they don't find attractive, but they won't date her. Women (as a whole) won't fuck or date a man they don't find attractive. I get the argument that almost no woman is universally too ugly to get laid, but far more are too ugly for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:21 PM
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i don't understand how they argue that women are surrounded by young rich tall men, and at the same time disagree with the redpill Whether a woman is surrounded by "young rich tall men" is solely dependent on what circles she runs in. I went to an Ivy League school for 2 years and am returning this fall, so yeah... while on campus, I'm surrounded by young rich tall men, but to compare my experience to that of a 40 year old retail worker in the middle of nowhere Kentucky is ludicrous. Just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:09 PM
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It's projection. They'll complain about women being shallow for valuing a guy's looks, but then when you point them to all the women who aren't shallow, they go "well they aren't 18 year old blonde models so they don't count!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:03 PM
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The thing is that a woman has to have beauty for this to work. If she doesn't, she can be the most kind, successful, interesting person in the world and the vast majority of men still won't want anything to do with her. I know unattractive women are invisible to most men, but they're still women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:50 AM
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Biologically reproducing is the end goal? From an evolutionary perspective, yes, the goal of any living organism is to reproduce. That isn't gender-specific, and is also the purpose of men from an evolutionary perspective. However, since we are more complex than amoebae, we have other imperatives besides our most base ones. Mens hobbies get them to bond with each other so they can build societieties. Explain how sitting on the computer making pixels go boom helps "build societieties" in any way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:16 PM
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is the end goal for most women Imagine typing this with a straight face. Just because a woman WANTS to have a family doesn't mean that's her ONLY FUCKING GOAL in life. I want a family one day, doesn't mean that everything I've done since I knew that as a toddler was in pursuit of that goal. How come men are allowed to want/have families and still be complex human beings, but once a woman wants/has a family, that's literally her only purpose? pursuing hobbies is meaningless from an evolutionary p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:36 PM
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Then they drop all the hobbies once they have settled down and had kids. And, of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that raising children takes up a lot of free time and women are expected to do the vast majority of it. No, it clearly means that they weren't invested in their hobbies. It was all just a long con to get someone to marry them, even if the hobby was something they'd been doing since they were 4. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:23 PM
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Since you brought this nonsense on to my post, I'm also going to ask you here: Little girls don't have hobbies or interests? Adult women who have never had a relationship (they exist) don't have hobbies or interests? Lesbians? Asexuals? We're all just empty shells until we have accepted a penis? Sometimes I can't believe y'all can type this shit with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 03:23 AM
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Nearly every single woman I've ever met with anything even approaching an interesting hobby (anything beyond social media and watching Marvel movies) inevitably tells you sooner or later that an ex-boyfriend introduced them to that hobby. Really? Always an ex-boyfriend? Never a parent? Sibling? Cousin? Childhood best friend? College roommate? Cool coworker at their last job? Semen magically transfers part of a man's personality to a woman, apparently. Idk about you, but all of my interests were …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 03:15 AM
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Will Smith is out here making a fool of himself, and Jada is an embarrassment. Being 50 years old and sleeping with your child's 20 year old friend is a massive yikes regardless of the genders of the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:35 PM
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Because of the idea that weaker people are morally better by default. There's some truth to this- not because weaker people are inherently better people, but because they know they can't get away with the things that a stronger and/or more privileged person could, and they're also more likely to have empathy for the downtrodden due to being downtrodden thenselves. However, weak/oppressed/downtrodden groups still have assholes in them, and sometimes those assholes use their oppression as a weapon…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:05 AM
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I saw this quote on TV Tropes and thought that it was very pertinent to debating here: When you're an asshole, it doesn't matter how right you are. Nobody wants to give you the satisfaction. -Morty, Rick and Morty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:59 AM
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I'm really sorry that that was your experience. I, too, saw my virginity as this precious thing that I vould never get back, and it became part of my personality so I worried that if I had sex (especially outside of a relationship or marriage) that my entire personality would change. That I would no longer be the sweet, smart girl I was, and would no longer be worthy of love and protection. I think the actual issue is that being intelligent and having good grades became my personality, and I los…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:09 PM
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What do you mean they "don't go away"? I definitely don't want to stay like this forever. I mean, I don't want to compromise my very reasonable standards, because I've learned that compromising them just makes me feel worse. But I don't want to stay locked up in my house afraid of the world for the forseeable future either. I want to be able to party and actually enjoy it, and not be feeling like I don't deserve to be there or hypervigilantly looking for cues of rejection. I took a glance at you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:09 PM
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22 yo virgin here. I remember reading somewhere that 25% of 19 year olds are still virgins, and 10% of 23 year olds are (although these statistics were not differentiated by gender). For me, personally, there are so many reasons why I'm still a virgin. There's lack of opportunity (due to social isolation, bullying, and mental illness), but then there's also the fact that I developed shame around sexuality at a very early age due to being exposed to sexual things before I was ready. So it's both …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:10 AM
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I don't think women should settle, but at the same time I think most women over-value themselves. Women, even ugly women, are constantly told they are beautiful by their friends. You really think women believe it when our friends (or random dudes looking to get laid) tell us we're beautiful? That we get inflated egos because of it? Trust me, we know when we're just supposed to be nice to each other and the compliments don't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:16 PM
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I dont think you or other women understand at all how bad it is to not be wanted in any way whatsoever and be alone. Even if your gonna say having casual sex isnt what women want its always available to you and can be used to feel wanted even if its just for sex. Being sexualized and used by men who see you as a living fleshlight with a subpar body/face inconveniently attached to it makes lonely women feel WORSE, not better. I felt uglier getting felt up by creeps I met 2 minutes earlier in frat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:10 PM
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Not everyone who isn't dating a 10/10 model is "settling" ffs what is this Attraction is about more than societal beauty standards (not even looks as a whole- not everyone is attracted to the so-called "ideal" of beauty, i.e. if a girl likes skinnier guys, she's not even "settling" physically by not dating some super muscular dude)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:40 PM
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insincere, hackneyed “conversation starters” are designed to ingratiate and obligate an audience. Simple questions should not "ingratiate and obligate" anyone. It's not that deep. Jesus Christ, I have social anxiety and I'm more open to talking to people than this. I’m comfortable explaining why I find pick-up to be a nuisance and a bother. I agree that it's a nuisance if they're interrupting you as you're walking down the street or something, or if they won't leave you alone after being told no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:50 PM
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Every woman is born skinny Uh, babies are born with a lot of fat on them. They're supposed to be. If they aren't, something is wrong, and I say this as a former 3 pound baby (premature) who was very rolly by 6 months. Everyone can be not obese, but there is a genetic component to weight and build. I've been pretty much the same BMI for as far back as I can remember (upper range of healthy) barring an actual medical issue (and returned to my "standard" BMI once the issue was corrected). I couldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:43 PM
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Why does he need to corner an attractive women roughly his age? Asking a question isn't "cornering". You're implying harassment where there is none. I get people asking me for directions or bus schedules all the time. Why me? I don't know. I just answer the question and assume that that'll be the end of it, and most of the time it is. I don't automatically assume that a guy wants to sleep with me the second he speaks to me, especially if he's close to my age because there's a sort of "camraderie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:17 PM
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This only works for the most attractive women. No one is offering average or ugly women jobs for sex. It also only works until a woman reaches a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:55 PM
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What? These are all normal, friendly questions. I don't even realize that a guy is trying to hit on me when he asks me a question like this, and sometimes he isn't trying to hit on me. There's a massive difference between friendliness and harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:39 PM
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My great grandparents met at a restaurant the day he was celebrating coming back from WWII and she was a waitress there. Your great-grandfather served in WWII? And you're old enough to have had a job? My great-grandfather served in WWI and I'm only 22. Trying to figure out whether your family or mine is the abnormal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:27 PM
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Even though I'm insecure, no, because there's a strong chance that I would end up losing the features I do like. I can fix my teeth, but I couldn't fix being built like a tooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:29 PM
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I struggle getting sex at all (virgin at 22). I thought I wanted to have a hoe phase when I first entered college, but I didn't get romantic/sexual attention from guys at parties (or at all) until 2 months into the year. The attention I did get was usually bottom-of-the-barrel- creepy dudes who weren't even students (one was literally a drug dealer) grabbing my ass and wanting me to blow them in the bathroom. My gut instinct was always "I don't like this", but I would be thinking, "well at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:31 PM
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Yes, let's ignore the 99% of posts on there that are about being ugly and focus on that one post. Also, she isn't wrong. I was told I was pretty as a child and have been called pretty by random strangers from ~15 on, but the bullying I faced between 10-14 destroyed me and no one has wanted to date me since 2016. Could I technically be bent over by some random creep? Yes, just like lonely men could technically pay or sex. But "it's not about sex, it's about intimacy", so here we both are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:27 PM
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OP is more or less talking about a ‘female incel’ or an involuntary celibate women, which is a ridiculous concept. r/ForeverAloneWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:35 PM
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If we define "dry spell" as "time without sex", my longest dry spell is 22 years, 2 months, 17 days and counting with no end in sight. If we define it as "time without any romantic affection at all", it's 3 years and 26 days with, again, no end in sight. I have much bigger problems, like the fact that it's been 2 years and 10 days since I attended a class and 4 months and 13 days since I completed a task I would later be paid for. But while I might be "bitter", if "bitter" means "depressed and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 06:13 PM
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I mean, there is some truth to the idea that people who are oppressed or disadvantaged in some way tend to outwardly be better people- not because they lack the capacity to be assholes like their privileged counterparts, but because they know they can't get away with the behavior a more privileged person could. This applies to POC vs. white, women vs. men, poor vs. rich, attractive vs. ugly, etc. I personally know that I was much more of an asshole when I was a cute and gifted child than after I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:17 AM
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Good to know men never get raped in your world. Also, no woman has ever propositioned a man for sex, ever, and it's always the guy's idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:36 PM
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So every family where the father makes most or all of the money is automatically a trad family? Even if they vote for Democrats, both parents have an equal say in decision-making and the daughter is encouraged to pursue her interest in science (my family)? If that's your definition of "trad", clearly then not all "trad" families are sexist. But anyone who claims to be a part of the "trad" movement is, in fact, a sexist. The trad movement sprung up as a reaction against feminism- that is to say, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:05 PM
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"I want society to collapse because I can't get a submissive virgin bride as a participation trophy for existing" Imagine being this pathetic and still thinking you're superior
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:00 PM
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If he weren't abhorrently sexist he wouldn't be calling himself "trad". Being the main breadwinner of a family does not make you "trad" by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:03 PM
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Imagine thinking that a nuclear family has to have sexist gender roles. TIL that the two-parent, two-child, suburban white picket fence family that I grew up in (until circumstances beyond our control changed that) was not a nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:44 AM
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What did your black neighbors think about the changing demographics and influx of latinX immigrants? Please don't call them "Latinx"; they think it's stupid. "Latino/a" is fine, although I usually use "Hispanic" to get the same point across. My dad is actually ex-military, and he laments that the demographics of the area have changed. So do his few friends that remain in the area (a lot of the "OGs" sold their homes and moved down south). It was already a majority Hispanic area when I moved here…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:43 AM
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"I'd happily wife up a woman if she had no sexual or romantic experience before me, no life outside of me and our children, did all of the cooking and housework, accepted my word as law, and didn't leave me no matter how many times I cheated on her or smacked her around! The problem is that modern women don't know their true place, those uppity bitches!" I don't think your flair is correct, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 06:35 AM
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My grandfather hadn't met my grandmother yet, and he still had to be an attractive and stable provider in order to attract her once he did make it home, especially since she was "above his league" (not in looks, but in background). He didn't have nothing to offer and get a bangmaid simply for existing. More importantly, are you seriously telling me that white "incels" today have it worse than black people during Jim Crow? Because if so, an elderly black person who actually lived through Jim Crow…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:43 AM
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Yeah. I've seen that minority groups tend to abide by stricter gender roles, often to our detriment. I also lived in a lily white suburb for the first 12 years of my life, which Trump won in 2016 and 2020 despite it being 50 miles away from the most liberal city in existence, so I'm exactly zero percent surprised when people aren't "woke".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:23 AM
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Black men signed up to fight and die in wars in defense of a society that called them slurs, denied them service in public facilities, did everything it could to keep them from voting or holding public office, jailed and executed them based on false accusations... My grandfather stormed the beaches on D-Day and came home to a society that he absolutely did not "fit into". Yet white men today are giving up on society because they aren't getting their asses kissed enough. JFL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:10 AM
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Plus you’re assuming every single trad man would make a bad dad, and they have nothing to offer "Trad" men believe in sexist gender roles, which kinda makes them bad dads by definition. "I don't have to wake up at 3 AM to soothe the baby! That's the mother's job!" "Stop crying, son! Sure, he beat you up, but don't be a sissy!" "No daughter of mine is going to college to be an engineer! She'll never find a husband that way!" Real Father of the Year material right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:56 AM
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The average college-educated white leftist lives in a bubble and has no idea what people of color are actually like because they never interact with any outside of the 2 in their Poli Sci major who think exactly like them. I live in a neighborhood that used to be majority middle-class black people and is now largely Hispanic immigrants. My grandmother was very active in the community and I went places with her a lot when I was a child, so I was surrounded by old black people. I live with my boom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:34 AM
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Even if Chris Evans was the nerdiest, most socially awkward man, he would still have women hitting on him. And Chris Evans (at least his public persona- we obviously don't know what he's like when the cameras aren't rolling) is known for being a sweet, down-to-earth guy, along with the noble image he has as Captain America. I'm pretty sure he's talked publicly about his anxiety disorder as well. I'd say he's one of the hottest celebrities out there, but him being nice is one of the reasons why.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:28 AM
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I've never had casual sex with anyone, but I did let guys that I didn't find attractive grope me at parties. It was because of low self-esteem and feeling so desperate to be wanted by someone that I had to take whatever I could get (this was freshman year at a prestigious PWI, so an absolute minefield for my insecurities). They didn't quite ask to grope me, but I didn't have it in me to stop them because I was thinking "at least someone wants to touch me". I hated everything about those situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:43 AM
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It's just the sheer audacity of expecting someone to give you access to their body, risking their physical and emotional safety, without you putting in the bare minimum of effort. I mean, I know that I'm less than a decade removed from thinking that sex should be an expression of marital love and commitment only, but I really don't think "you should like the person you're having sex with enough that you actually want to talk to them" is too high of a standard. Jesus. These dudes should just buy …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:29 AM
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Imteracting with someone for several hours before sticking your dick in them (which is, from hearing my peers' experiences, how a ONS in college usually works- I assume it's the same at a bar or club) is apparently an undue burden for men now and the same as being a court jester. Unbelievable. If you want to stick your dick in something you don't have to interact with, buy a fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:28 PM
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I'm sorry, I just can't get over how sad it is that we, as a society, have gotten to the state where we expect the same level of interaction from someone we're having sex with as we do from someone that we're paying to fix our car. The bar is literally in hell and these dudes still can't clear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:18 PM
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But I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I've seen hookups happen within moments of meeting. Typically this would be drug and alcohol related. Yeah I don't get this at all. I think there would probably have to be something wrong with a person mentally to do this (the most blatantly sexual people I've known have all been very messed up, some to the point of barely functioning, and I say this as a person who was hanging out with these types because I too was barely functioning). When I hear stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:26 AM
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Moments? Or hours? Because from watching people at parties in college, hooking up with someone means you're paired off with that person for the night and it's not until the party ends some hours later that you actually go hook up. There needs to be a conversation and some sort of connection established first. The one time I almost hooked up with someone (didn't ultimately happen) the entire experience was about 4 hours. If he had propositioned me moments after meeting I would have thought it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:33 PM
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Lol I knew that I was eventually going to see this dogshit take on here. (I know this is sarcasm, but I was dreading the day I saw it unironically.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:44 AM
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Exactly. I feel like men on here don't know the difference between fighting in self-defense/when you absolutely have to and starting fights for no reason. If I was with a man who got into a fight with some guy at a bar for looking at him the wrong way, it would signal to me that he's stupid and lacks impulse control, which could make him dangerous to me in the future if he thinks violence is the way to deal with feeling slighted. However, if he got into a fight with a guy at the bar who assaulte…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:39 AM
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Pretty much every top comment is suggesting her to go with the fiancé and forget the ex because fiancé is the stable one. Top comment: The person who gives you stability isn’t going to be the person who makes you feel the rush. Um... yes? This is common sense? Don't ruin a relationship that you've been in for some time because you felt a "spark" for your ex from 8 years ago? If the comments were suggesting she break up with the fiancé and go for the ex the post would have been linked here as pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:14 AM
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I wasn't around to know, but when I look at photos of people in the past (20th century), they seem more attractive than people today as a whole. Better groomed, more fit, etc. I saw a video on r/OldSchoolCool of high schoolers in the 80s, and they looked like the 25 year old models that play high schoolers in movies, but it was some person's actual yearbook video. The kids I went to high school with definitely didn't look like that. I also think that Americans, in general, are less attractive th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:07 AM
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To say that right out of the gate? Yes, it's creepy and insulting, and if you literally said "wanna have sex?" I would think that there was something wrong with you (mental illness/disability or on drugs) and that would make me feel unsafe. Being approached by guys who clearly just want my body has always made me feel cheap (like I'm not even worth the pretense of caring about to them, they literally just see me as a living fleshlight), and again, unsafe. It doesn't matter how hot he is, as I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:01 AM
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Also overweight women are more likely to be older/married, so of course they're more likely to have had sex. "Correlation is not causation" was literally my first lesson in Psychology 101. Come on, people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:15 AM
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Also weight (even combined with height) doesn't determine a person's body type. People have different body fat/muscle mass percentages and carry weight in different places in their bodies. A very tall 210 lb woman looks like this. You would literally never guess that they weighed over 200 lbs. If I told the ignorant redpillers on here my weight with no additional context, they'd think "ew, just lose weight, fatty!", yet they would never guess that I weighed that much upon seeing my body. I know …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:12 AM
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It’s definitely how it is, I’ve been a part of this community for like 8 or 9 years. That’s PPD specifically, not even red pill. I'm just having a hard time understanding how the denizens of a subreddit designed for debating ideology could have all established a friendly rapport. I could see if it was a support, hobby, or even circlejerk subreddit, but a debate subreddit? Many blue pill women like red pill men. Romantically? Because if they liked redpill men romantically they wouldn't be bluepil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:47 AM
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Things are different now, but I had known many of these people for years, we are connected on social media, voice and video chatted I'm confused. You're telling me that the early denizens of PPD actually knew each other? Over Reddit? I find that hard to believe, since Reddit is anonymous- friendships happen, sure, but I see no reason why a woman would choose to be online friends with a redpiller or vice versa. I don’t think it’s stupid or shallow for them to go after hot guys, or pick sexism ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:39 AM
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The point wasn’t that women would be bad for picking the sexists, we just know it’s true. Did you ever consider that this is Reddit, and that women debating gender politics on Reddit are more likely to be autistic or otherwise neurodivergent and therefore more understanding of another autistic person? The women you're speaking to on here are not the same women whose actions don't go along with what women say on here. I'm fully aware that some women are stupid and shallow, but if you ask me a que…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:13 AM
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https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7j77ao/q4women_if_you_had_to_choose_one_would_you_rather/ And when women said they would rather date an autistic man, they were essentially called liars because they didn't answer the way RP wanted them to answer to prove that women bad. Tale as old as time. A lot of the questions asked of women are loaded questions to prove that women bad. Take the "Q4W: How would you react to your SO losing a fight in a really pathetic way?" example on the front p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:35 PM
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Just throwing it in here that a lot of men have no idea how women's weights work. They think that anything above 140 is "chubby" and 170 is "obese" when a 5'4", 170 lb woman actually looks like this. Some have bad bodies, but others would be mistaken as weighing much less than they do. Height and weight doesn't automatically tell you what a person's body looks like. Tbf, women often don't know this either. When I was in high school I had my friends guess my weight at 125 when I was 159. I was ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:25 AM
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They already have Sure, a small minority of women do this, but those women, when found out, lose all sympathy and are called every name in the book by both men and other women. Which they absolutely should be, but men who put "spreading their seed" over basic human decency should get the exact same treatment. That is correct. The strongest and most valuable get theirs, and everyone else gets fucked. In this life you're either at the table or you're on the menu Well, that's bleak as fuck. Enjoy l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:38 AM
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Fuck morals those are for losers and suckers So it's fine when women adopt this philosophy too, right? After all, ain't no laws against cheating on your "beta" husband with an "alpha" and tricking him into thinking it's his kid. She's just fulfilling her biological imperative! That's the excuse that RP men give to cheat and lie, right? Muh biotruths? Oh, wait. Rules for thee, not for me. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:13 AM
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I do think I am a “love it or hate it” type because I am 5’10 and curvy so that’s either your thing or it’s totally not I have always been approached since I was young because I have always been tall and developed. I remember being approached by grown men as young as 12. Are we the same person because same lol. I was 13 the first time it happened (never went anywhere in public without my parents until 11, never went anywhere besides the 8 blocks to get to school and back until 13-14) and I was s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:36 AM
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I have never been hit on while just going about my daily life on campus, except for one time when a mover hit on me during freshman move-in. All the times I was hit on while just walking down the street, I had left the bounds of campus into the surrounding city (which is full of shady characters). No idea where/when you went to school where students were cold approaching other students.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:24 AM
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Years ago, I noticed that I would always get approached when I WASN'T trying to look good. I'm talking "all my good clothes are in the wash" or "I'm on my way to the hair salon". When I was dressed up for school in the fall or spring, no one ever paid any attention to me. In the past couple years I've had incidents where it was clear that me wearing something revealing (like... shorts in the summer, or a dress on the way to a photo shoot) contributed to it, but not wearing revealing clothes is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:14 AM
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Didn't really know which thread to post on. I was bullied for "being ugly" in middle school and have felt ugly ever since, but I've also had random people (irl and online) tell me I'm beautiful, so... Let me preface this by saying that I barely leave the house now, and half the time I'm accompanied by my dad, so there aren't a lot of opportunities for anyone to approach me. That being said, when I was in HS (14-18) and traveling to school/work/extracurricular activities on public transportation,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:01 AM
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More than 30%+ of the men FA means the inevitable ascent of fascism. Gilead. Lol I'm so scared. "Fuck misogynistic neckbeards or we'll implement a fascist state!" Again, nice revenge fantasy, but in the real world society doesn't care whether you get your dick wet. They'll just move on without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:04 AM
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Yes, exactly. I'm 99% sure I have ADHD, but actually getting diagnosed is the most complicated thing ever. Nowhere that does evaluations for ADHD seems to take my insurance and it's hundreds or thousands of dollars out of pocket. Really at the end of my rope here :( In high school I was actively trying to do what I thought I had to to be "the popular girl", i.e. "masking", but the thing is that I come across as this hyper-competent larger-than-life personality even when I'm not actively trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:55 AM
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I had the opportunity to read part of your comment before you (apparently) deleted it. Just letting you know, me saying "marriage and children do not guarantee life satisfaction and I'm not so desperate for it that I'll accept a shitty husband just to say I have one" does not equate to "I'm not interested in marriage and kids". Although this subreddit continues to challenge it, I still have hope that I can marry a non-shitty man who will treat me as an equal and not an accessory. I'm just saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:43 AM
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As black men earn more money they're more likely to marry black women. This is a lie. From my understanding, as black men earn more money they're more likely to marry in general (vs. not marry at all) compared to broke black men, but not more likely to marry a black woman (vs. marry a non-black woman) compared to broke black men. I don't know the actual statistics, though. I know that successful black men do marry black women- I can think of multiple examples in my own family- but their wives we…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:30 AM
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Are you a scientist? I'm majoring in Cognitive Science- not sure if that's what I'm going to do as a career though. An artist? I write stories, but that'll be a side hustle for me at most. Is this what you want from your life? Not entirely, no. However, I would rather be able to financially take care of myself (I can't now, but in a few years once I get my degree) than have to rely on another person. A job isn't the be-all-end-all of life fulfillment, but neither is marriage and a family. They c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:51 AM
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People who are so stupid that they lack self-awareness. Which you would have to be to think that single motherhood is a good strategy. Also, if no woman would ever admit to this, why pose it as a question for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:12 AM
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No, but: I'm less likely to wind up in that situation if I focus on my career vs. if I focus on a man. If my job fires me when I'm 50, my experience will be an asset to finding another job; if my husband leaves me when I'm 50, my experience will be a detriment to finding another husband. If "the current socioeconomic situation is not permanent", and the dollar crashes in the future or something, that will affect men too, so if I'm dependent on a man, we'll both be SOL. Sure I won't be alone, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:02 AM
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I know I'm late to this thread, but I have a similar dilemma as you do, as a woman. For some reason, when people first meet me, I seem very confident and put-together right off the bat. I'm book-smart (which people often mistake for street smarts) and have a large "stage presence", which is only amplified when I dress a certain way (skirts and tights, boots with heels, etc.). In high school and college, I got a lot of attention when I first got there and started meeting people... but then the cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:18 AM
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...no, it isn't? I don't get your point here. A successful black man not dating black women is definitely internalized racism, but not dating unemployed single moms from the hood definitely isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:31 AM
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The reason they aren't dating them is because why should someone who is successful have to date a single mother? I'm not saying that successful men SHOULD date unemployed single moms. I'm saying, accurately, that they DON'T. This doesn't affect me personally at all lol. All you had to do was avoid becoming a single mother and latch on them early before they started to become successful I don't like this because women are often encouraged to "build up a man" only for him to leave for a younger/ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:00 AM
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If we're talking about the black community, y'all realize that successful/educated black men aren't lining up to date unemployed single moms from the hood, right? Many of them won't date any black woman, even if she runs in the same circles as he does. Y'all seem to think women immediately have limitless options simply because we have vaginas, but that isn't how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:46 AM
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eyes roll into another dimension I mean I once noped out of an interaction with a guy that looked like an NBA player because it was obvious that he just wanted my body and I was a mentally ill virgin girl in the middle of a pandemic, but sure, bud, women chase Chads to their own detriment and I or any other woman that tells you otherwise is just "hamstering" or whatever the fuck. Y'all seem mad that being an "average guy that will stick around (maybe)" isn't enough anymore now that women don't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:39 AM
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I don't think you'll find any woman on PPD who would do this...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:59 PM
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IMO: sexual attraction is necessary for a satisfying relationship. However, it's not sufficient. Simply being hot isn't going to get a woman off, nor is it going to guarantee her safety in the relationship or that she'll be supported if anything goes wrong. "Sexually attractive" also means different things to different people. Sure, there are some traits that most people find attractive, but people are physically attracted to different traits- that's why "types" are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:35 AM
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Lol ok you just opened up a whole new line of hypocrisy. Thank you. So we moving the goalposts now? Are we talking about misogynistic content or misogynistic/predatory/otherwise bad behavior? Because it makes no sense to talk about content for one industry and real life bad behavior for another. Now: Dre (beat up Dee Barnes), Snoop (charged with murder arrested for a ton of shit), Eminem - assault, Tupac who tons of women loooove - convicted fucking rapist. It’s hilarious you are going to bring …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:22 AM
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Louis had his show removed from FX That wasn't because of the content of his comedy, but because of what he did when he wasn't onstage. It had nothing to do with the content itself. I watched Louis CK for years before the scandal broke and I never found any of his jokes offensive (just gross- seriously, I have not eaten Cinnabon in 11 years because I heard him refer to the icing as jizz and can't look at a Cinnabon without thinking of that), nor did I ever hear of anyone who did. a dozen Always …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:53 AM
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Let people like things. He says, while not letting people like things. "If you dance to a song that uses the word 'bitch', you must be okay with being called a bitch in real life!" Bro, my favorite country song is about murder and my favorite Broadway song is about statutory rape. Doesn't mean I have to be okay with those things. Also, me saying "this song is gross" doesn't mean I'm telling you you can't listen to it. Just don't play it when I'm around (assuming I know you). I really don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:21 AM
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I'm considering it actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:05 AM
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I don't listen to a lot of rap to begin with, but I can't listen to songs with absolutely gross lyrics. Even if it's a woman singing it. I really don't want to hear about how a rapper fucks bitches in the ear or whatever. However, am I going to cancel a song because it uses the words "bitch" or "hoe"? No. Female artists use those words themselves all the time, and I'm not that sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:59 AM
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If you and your girls are going to dance around to “bitches ain’t shit but ho’s and tricks” You're aware that the next line in that song is "n*ggas ain't shit but bitches with dicks"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:49 AM
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And it was women that sent men to work in coal mines or off to war and barred women from doing those things? The same women that couldn't even vote at the time? Nah, it was more powerful men. Rich men sent poor men to die horrible deaths so they didn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:20 PM
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As a belated virgin woman with low self-esteem, often I would just be confused when I met a woman who was unattractive yet managed to be a slut, because I believed for years that the problem was my looks. I knew this one girl in college who had a disturbingly average face yet bragged about how she'd slept with all her guy friends, and seemed to think (and be treated!) like she was super attractive. I knew several promiscuous girls who had bad bodies and/or butterfaces, and to be completely hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:29 AM
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Trauma from being raised by a hypersexual mother and being bullied at school. Low self-esteem, anxiety and probable neurodivergence. I fantasized about having a hoe phase when I first went to college, but I got little attention from guys and was too afraid to put myself out there in more obvious ways like a Tinder account. According to the manosphere, I don't exist and should have been able to get plowed by a 9/10 of my choosing simply be being a woman in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:02 AM
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Seeing as I'm a virgin myself, I would be glad. I wouldn't want to be just another one on the pile to a man while he's my first everything. That inherently creates a power imbalance in the relationship. And before you ask, yes, this goes both ways. I have no problem with sexually inexperienced men wanting sexually inexperienced women- in fact, it's a benefit to me. The problem is when 40 year old men spend 25 years sleeping with everything that moves and suddenly think they deserve a 20 year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:39 AM
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I feel you bro. Depending on the photo I'm looking at, I can be stunningly beautiful with full lips and high cheekbones, or a dumpy nerd with a masculine jawline and a fucked up smile. I've had random strangers call me beautiful, but I was bullied for being ugly in middle school and have felt invisible to guys ever since. It sucks to be afraid of having my photo taken because I don't know which me I'm going to see. But the problem with us isn't our looks. If that were true, uglier people wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:06 PM
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The fact that you think "it's over" and that you look like Quasimodo has me genuinely flabbergasted to the point where I'm wondering if you're trolling. If that's actually you, you aren't ugly in the slightest. Attractive actually. Like, if I saw you on a dating app I would swipe right (assuming I liked your bio). I knew guys in high school who were less attractive than you that had girlfriends, including one I dated myself. If that is indeed you, and you genuinely think like this, the problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:13 AM
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That's sad, understandable, and exactly your problem. I get it- my negative thoughts are never as extreme as "this person wants me dead", but rather "this person doesn't want me around them and I should stop trying". Both of our pathologies are the result of real trauma and rejection, but they're also ours to deal with. You have body dysmorphia, so I'm doubting whether you actually are Quasimodo-level ugly and not just 5'6" with an average face. Even if you are short and ugly, no one wants you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:18 AM
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I, too, had a boy refuse to be my lab partner when I was in middle school. This guy was actively bullying me and I couldn't get any of my work done because he was being a dick the entire time. I was usually the kid that the teacher had to find a group for because no one wanted to work with me, even though those rejecting me were usually other girls. Yet I was still able to have normal, platonic interactions with boys/men in high school and college. I wasn't into them, and I highly doubt that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:32 AM
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To me that sounds like touching someone sexually without their consent. If people touch other people inappropriately, that should not go with 0 repercussions. People need to keep their hands to themselves, unless given permission otherwise. Absolutely, but context matters. There's a difference between grabbing a stranger's ass at a bar and putting your hand on your date's thigh while watching a movie. If you're flirting with someone or on a date with them, and they start touching you in a way th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:52 PM
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If anyone needs to ask literally every step of the way if order to determine whether the other person wants to physically engage with them, there's not much that can be done at that point. Them physically engaging with you back is a good place to start. It's like people think there is no middle ground between "asking before you put your hand on your partner's thigh while actively making out" and literal rape. Some people have truly lost their minds on what is considered sexual assault (I had a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:42 PM
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I can't speak to how unattractive men were treated in the past because I wasn't there, but I will say that I have never seen a woman be hostile to an unattractive man in a normal social interaction. Yes, they reject unattractive men as romantic partners (and some of them are assholes about it), but not as friends, coworkers, classmates, customers, etc. I once had a guy on here claim that he never talked to women in college because he "wasn't a Chad". I was like, bro, when I was on campus I spoke…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:54 PM
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Just how badly one should think about men to write this?! Notice how I put "supposed to" in quotes? It's not reflective of reality, nor is it how I think things should be, but this is the cultural narrative that a lot of people believe. In movies and books, especially ones aimed at children/teens, there's way more examples of a boy getting rejected by a girl than the other way around. The storyline is almost always "nerdy boy pines for the affection of popular cheerleader", and girls who aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:05 PM
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It's pretty much the same for every other woman on earth. Is it though? I know stories on the Internet can be fake, but I've heard tons of stories of women taking the risk of propositioning a guy. Also, to me, "taking a risk" encompasses simply "putting oneself out there". Even making a Tinder account is a risk that my self-esteem is too fragile to take. Believe me, every man has plenty of traumatic experiences which usually do not make him to stop trying. I know, but it's worse as a woman becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:00 PM
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I used to watch a lot of True Crime stuff when I was a kid- so much so, in fact, that I wrote a story compiling a bunch of murder/kidnapping cases involving young girls (JonBenet Ramsey, Jaycee Dugard, Milly Dowler, etc.) when I myself was a young girl. I watched Law & Order SVU whenever it was on, and watched YouTubers like Rob Gavagan and Bailey Sarian as recently as last year. I obviously wasn't in the dating market yet, but True Crime, along with constant warnings from my parents about kidna…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:07 AM
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I had a conversation ones were a few women considered a guy not hitting on her, when she gives him signals, as him rejecting her. I mean... yes. Women are told this. I assume that, if a guy isn't hitting on me, he isn't interested in me. Since a traumatic experience a decade ago, I don't express interest unless the guy sends signals that he's interested in me. Even if he does, I usually rationalize away those signals as just being nice. Anything short of obvious flirting is still ambiguous, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:58 AM
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a woman can get an entire psychological complex after being turned down by just one guy. This is because of the popular belief that men will fuck literally anything as long as she's at least mildly attractive. If a man rejects a woman, she thinks, "Holy shit I must be completely repulsive" and naturally gets upset about that. I say this as a woman who's been rejected- I thought, "How ugly must I be that horny college guys turned down the chance to have sex with me?" None of that excuses vindicti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:40 AM
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The first rule of misogyny: women are to blame for men's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:24 AM
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But I thought that women were supposed to "stay loyal" even after a relationship has ended? How are these poor 19 year old spinsters supposed to be available to be pumped and dumped if they have to stay home and cry about not getting to marry the loser they dated in 10th grade for their next 70 years of life? Wouldn't that be "cheating" on the man that left them, who now owns them forever even though they're no longer in a relationship? The most infuriating thing about you is that your standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:41 PM
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Women get one shot. Men get infinity shots. How are men going to have women to take "infinity shots" with, if they're all forever loyal to their high school boyfriends (or, apparently, the first boy to have a crush on them when they were toddlers)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:29 AM
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Obviously the man is looking to have sex on the first date and if the conversation of relationship comes up, hes going to full dumpster dive into her history to find out her N count. But you can't care about N-count and also be pushing for sex on the first date. A person with a low N-count stayed that way by not having sex with people she's been on one date with. Why should she have to change for you? Because you're such an alpha? Nah fam. If you really care about having sex on the first date, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:48 PM
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In fact, I would argue that these rules benefit women in relationships more, since it incentivized men to seek out relationships. Now that sex outside of relationships is normal and not taboo, fewer men feel the need to commit until they've "sowed their oats". You know that men have been having sex with prostitutes behind their wives' backs through all of history, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:48 AM
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No, but you have to genuinely believe it's a mistake and convince the guy that you believe it's a mistake. So I have to self-flagellate over it? Because I did that for 2 years and only stopped when a better therapist helped me put it in perspective. I'm not self-flagellating over it any more. I probably wouldn't tell a prospective date that story because it's irrelevant. Not like it was a relationship, and I bet he's not telling me about every girl he drunkenly made out with his freshman year of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:34 AM
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I would never be with another man. I would wait for him to come back. That's very, very sad. You should value yourself more and not organize your entire life around the whims of another person. I think it's enough if women stay loyal for the rest of their lives. I'm sure widowers and divorced men don't have to stay "loyal for the rest of their lives", though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:41 AM
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You're too sane for this subreddit. Get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:17 AM
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Then it's fine for you to have that standard. I wouldn't want a relationship with you anyway because I'd want to be able to drink together sometimes. That's a compatibility issue and it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:12 AM
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So if I'd had sex with him, I would then be obligated to have sex with every guy that flirted with me at a party ever for the rest of my life or I'd be "penalizing" the other guy and being "unfair"? If you give $10k to an OnlyFans girl once, when you're 19, mentally ill, and drunk, and you immediately regret the decision, are you now obligated to give $10k to every OnlyFans girl that ever spams your inbox or you're "being unfair"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:54 AM
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A guy like that isn't getting a woman. Welcome to the real world, where people expect SOME benefit to spending time with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:45 AM
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People break up. Are women supposed to marry their first boyfriends as teenagers? What if HE left HER?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:44 AM
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How the fuck am I supposed to know whether I intend to marry them before I date them? Finding out whether you want to marry someone is THE POINT OF DATING. Just because someone enters a relationship hoping that it'll end in marriage doesn't mean it will. All kinds of things can happen. Unless you have a crystal ball, you don't know whether you will marry the guy you're dating. Even so, marriages also end. I'm sure if your husband left you you'd spend the rest of your life in your house sobbing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:26 AM
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Cool! So that means you've never been drunk before in your life, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:14 AM
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There is no contradictory belief. If one man, believes that women should have sex with him within three dates or they're "witholding" the sex that he's so rightfully entitled to, yet also believes that women shouldn't have high n-counts or they're not relationship material, that's by definition contradictory. He wants women to only have sex with him early and not other men, but if other men want that too, it's impossible for her to please everyone. If one man believes the former, and the other b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:00 AM
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At no point did I generalize men in my post. I was specifically talking to men who have these contradictory beliefs. What did I say to indicate that I don't see men as individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:40 AM
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So you assume that all women were sluts and then get mad at them for not sucking your dick because she's already sucked other men's dicks in your own fucked up head. Can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:37 AM
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Your problem is you don’t see men as their own individual persons . https://www.britannica.com/science/projection-psychology This ENTIRE FUCKING SUBREDDIT is about not seeing people as unique individuals but as walking stereotypes of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:35 AM
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Please continue to pay hookers and stay away from relationships. At least hookers only have to interact with you for an hour (or 5 minutes, more likely).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:31 AM
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Considering that some frats have a "rapey reputation" and still have a lot of women going there for parties At my school, girls pretty quickly learned to avoid the frats that had "rapey reputations". It was a frequent topic of conversation. I refused to go to one frat (like, I was in a group that wanted to go there and I was vehemently against it, and we didn't go) because I had heard horror stories from other chapters at other schools about that frat being racist. I didn't want to wait to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:27 AM
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Frat bro, finance bro, ghetto guys are really far from being the less sexist guys around. Yet they never get a shortage of willing women. By lying. These guys are not wearing their misogyny on their sleeves when interacting with women. Unless you expect women to assume a guy is a misogynist simply because he's in a frat or works in finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:15 AM
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So you want a free hooker, basically. If you're going to treat women like objects, at least don't be a fucking cheapskate when purchasing them. I have before and it was easy. Lol. Sure Jan. If these women exist, I'm certain you didn't make it clear to them that you expected them to "better" have sex with you with no effort on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:13 AM
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It doesn't require "spider sense" to know someone is a misogynist if they show you they're a misogynist. Incels tend to be really bad at pretending they're not incels. A person who is better at lying might be able to successfully seem like a decent person for a period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:56 AM
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So you're not even paying for her dinner but you expect to be able to use her body because she's "damaged goods" due to having had sex before? Good fucking luck getting a woman with that entitled ass attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:40 AM
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Seriously? So once a woman has had sex she's now obligated to have sex with any man who wants to? She had sex with her one long term boyfriend and now "she's a clown" for not sucking your dick after you paid for her dinner once? You're the clown sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:27 AM
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Here's another question: at what point is a woman's standard not being applied equally? For example, I made out with a random guy at a party once. My friend prevented me from leaving with him because we were both blackout drunk, but had he not done that I probably would have hooked up with him. This was when I was at my most desperate to lose my virginity. The emotional consequences of that incident for me were so bad that it took me YEARS to "get over it". That was 3 years ago now and I've defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:22 AM
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I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the many men here that have this contradictory attitude. I would want a dating market where there's either not such a stigma against a woman having had previous partners, or there's not such a stigma against a woman not wanting to have sex until commitment is established. Even though only the latter one affects me personally, at least for now, that doesn't mean I can't recognize and call out bullshit where I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:03 AM
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Because y'all have set up a dating market where it's impossible for us to win no matter what we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:48 PM
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It's a lot easier to reach that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:15 AM
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Pro tip: sit on the toilet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:15 AM
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And there are PLENTY of figure types unrelated to weight that go against the stereotypical "decent figure." Women who are built naturally broad-shouldered and flat-chested, like a rower's build, can do all the "lower body workouts" in the world and still never have an hourglass figure, for instance. Exactly. Some of the female beauty standard consists of things that one can change, but some of it is just genetics. I will never be the ideal Western beauty standard, just because of my race and rac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:03 AM
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Virgin rape has physical consequences like the loss of a hymen and can be painful. You're a virgin so that's probably why penetration hurts. r/vaginismus. The majority of women there aren't virgins, yet penetration hurts them so badly they can't do it. Vaginismus can actually develop in response to rape- that is, a woman is able to have PIV sex without pain, is raped, and the trauma from that is so great that her muscles tense during consensual sex and make penetration difficult or impossible. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:12 AM
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Most don't bother. Some move from America to an Asian country and get a wife there. Some go the bodybuilding route which can sometimes work okay. Some get single mother alpha widows with children. Some get women much older than they are. Some waste thousands of hours "upping game", reading TRP, and cold approaching thousands of women until they get lucky and one of them does not reject them. There are various ways. Wait, hold up- "most don't bother"? So you're claiming that the majority of men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:33 AM
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Well when you account for the fact that 99.99% of women are Chad chasers uninterested in beta men, the numbers look very different. You now have 22 million millionaire men to 7540 women. Those odds seem pretty good. Wait, what? Your math doesn't make any sense. There are 22 million millionaires in the entire U.S.. Some of those are female. Some are gay. Some are already married. You also have to consider that the U.S. is huge and most of these single straight male millionaires aren't going to li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:15 AM
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Some "non-Chad" friends of Chad get invited too. I'm not friends with any Chads. Didn't know that you have to be a "Chad" to throw a party. Seriously, dude, do your friends not throw parties? Or do they just not throw drunken ragers with oodles of hot women? You don't need good social skills as a women to get invited to parties for obvious reasons. You know you have to know people in order to get invited to parties, right? I wasn't invited to parties in high school because I was the "extra frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:55 AM
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There are 22 million millionaires in the U.S. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/heres-how-22-million-americans-became-millionaires.html#:~:text=There%20are%20nearly%2022%20million,out%20their%20secret%20to%20success. Of course, you have to subtract the ones that are female, the ones that are gay or asexual, the ones that are married, etc. There are 75.4 million women of childbearing age in the U.S. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/libra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:05 AM
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Only Chads get invited to parties I saw "non-Chads" at every single party I ever went to in college. This sounds like your social skills just suck. Mine do too, but I don't sit around and whine that only Stacies get invited to parties because I know that's objectively untrue. Also, Meetup.com. I joined a group on there last year and we've had parties. Not one single man in the group would be considered a "Chad", because it's a group for people with social anxiety. They're all average to slightly…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:55 AM
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Physically, women are not harmed by rape Dude, penetrating myself with my own fingers hurts sometimes. Being penetrated with a penis would absolutely be painful, even if I wanted it. I can't imagine the physical pain of being raped. The vagina lubricates and expands when a woman is aroused. Putting anything larger than a finger inside while not aroused will hurt. The vagina isn't just a hole that's ready to go at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:38 AM
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🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ Do you know how many millionaires there are in the world? Do you know how many women there are in the world? Statistically, this makes no fucking sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:33 AM
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I know. There's men that think that too. It's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:23 AM
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I was going to say "forced to penetrate a woman you didn't want to have sex with", but these are the kind of chuds that would think being raped by a woman would be a blessing for a touch-starved man (unless that woman weighed 400 pounds and/or had a busted face).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:11 AM
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there are in fact many men who are so starved of affection and touch that they see suicide or rape as their only options. If your solution to being lonely and touch starved is to commit suicide, you need psychiatric help. And this is coming from someone receiving psychiatric help. If your solution to being lonely and touch starved is to rape someone, however, you need a bullet to the head. I once saw an r/AskReddit thread titled "what's the most perverted thing you've ever done?", and a comment …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:26 AM
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"Emotionally raped" Jesus Christ you people are pathetic. There's no such fucking thing as being "emotionally raped". Would you rather be lonely and sexless, or be forcibly anally penetrated by a big burly gay man? If "emotional rape" and physical rape are the same thing, you should have to flip a coin to decide. This is offensive to all the men who HAVE actually been raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:18 AM
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LOL you think taxes go to "poor people" and not to the government spending billions of dollars a year on tanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:10 AM
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I can only speak for myself, but all the guys that I've had crushes on over the years, I've had crushes on because they were attentive and caring. My very first crush was even more sensitive than I was (which was a HIGH bar), but I liked him because we understood each other as weird, sensitive, minority kids in a school environment that wasn't exactly nuturing. In high school, I spent years crushing on a skinny guy who was sort of feminine because he was a caring friend and encouraged/soothed me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:11 AM
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Um... masturbating frequently? Or having lots of sex with their partners? My mother had no sexual boundaries (history of abuse and brain tumor). I know, unfortunately, that she wanted to have sex every day but my dad was too busy/tired. I'm a virgin with a shit ton of issues regarding sex and even I masturbate about every other day. And I'm typically considered a prude. Y'all are clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:17 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA deep breath HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- As a woman, who's been close enough to other women to talk about things like this with them, this shit is hilarious. Just admit you don't know what you're talking about and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:03 AM
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