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1	Why does society constantly label men who date younger than their age as creepy?	Discussion	J4Plat	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 12:55 AM

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56	Most Passport bros leave the country because they can’t get any women in the U.S and try to take advantage of the American dollar being worth more over there The passport bro argument always seemed so stupid and moot to me. Random women online say these men are low-value undesirable men. I can agree that some of them most certainly are. The part I dont get is why they care about undesirable men leaving the country to try and be happy. I guess they just want these men to rot in misery. I dont understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/25 11:40 PM
2	Most Passport bros leave the country because they can’t get any women in the U.S and try to take advantage of the American dollar being worth more over there This is true but the larger prevailing culture of the US is pro-divorce, pro-hoe phase, pro-boss beach. So while you can go marry a traditional women you're still constantly fighting an uphill battle both economically and culturally. In my opinion, it's normally not worth it for most men to marry in the US. If you're not appreciated or supported I would tell anyone to leave. This is pretty much the case for the men of the US. I think them being passport bros is an attractive and smart alternativ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/25 11:38 PM
1	Attraction manifests differently between connections. People need to stop comparing someone to their history when it isn’t part of the equation Ok I dont see how you still miss my point. Im saying it is completely fine to compare and is something all humans do. Im saying if during that comparison it became evident she did explore more with other people and doesn't have a desire to continue to do so that's fine. If she isn't comfortable then she should not do it. All I'm saying is the comparison is a red flag for me and I would probably leave over it. You seem to be saying people shouldnt compare and shouldnt leave over it. That is you i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/25 07:43 AM
2	Attraction manifests differently between connections. People need to stop comparing someone to their history when it isn’t part of the equation I dont appreciate you putting words in my mouth and Im unsure why you're so upset that you have to resort to inflammatory language. The point is that men enter romantic relationships with sex being a huge factor. Let's hope we can agree on that. You are assuming that I want women to force themselves to do things they dont want to do and it actually couldnt be further from the truth. I don't think you are saying that either but of the two of us you are pushing for a certain behavior more than I a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/25 06:17 AM
7	Attraction manifests differently between connections. People need to stop comparing someone to their history when it isn’t part of the equation I've done a lot of work part time helping people manage their finances and you learn verrrrry quickly that most people have absolutely no discipline. I have people who are 50+ telling me they have not started saving or have less than 1 year's salary saved for retirement. These are the "mature" adults who have wised up after decades of experience. Most people are children with victim mindsets and a gross sense of entitlement. My point is people don't exercise discipline in most areas of their lif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/25 05:20 AM
3	Attraction manifests differently between connections. People need to stop comparing someone to their history when it isn’t part of the equation This is a weak take. Imagine I am your employer and I hire you on as well as 4 others before you. I tell you hey, I'm so glad your here 50LB Pup and I want you to know I notice all your hard work. Your peers purport to you that most of therm started at about 100-110K/Yr and got promoted within 12 - 18 months. You round 12 months and get no promotion and you start at 90K. You bring this up to your manager and he tells you the company is in a different place and that you're on the fast track to bl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/25 05:17 AM
3	Women do want a good man, just not enough. I hate that most of the best takes come from redpill because I absolutely loathe some of what they preach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 02:08 AM
3	Would You Feel Insecure if Every Guy You Met Had 50x More Options Than You? I don't think most of the people are complaining about women but more so the environment. Men live in an era that actively admonishes them. I try to keep an open mind but the more I've grown to understand and experience people the less I trust them. A vast number of couples experience infidelity and when you enter an era that tells people that everyone is expendable, you should prioritize your own happiness, and has minimal amounts of community it's unsurprising. I'm living for myself and I'm ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/25 03:58 PM
7	Would You Feel Insecure if Every Guy You Met Had 50x More Options Than You? I think this is an oversimplified take. There are dynamics beyond what is listed at play here. People will absolutely act different when they have optionality and to pretend otherwise is nonsensical. There's a number of very valid reasons to be insecure. You can make the choice to interpret differently for sure but to act as though it has no implicit effects on both the one with optionality and their partner is farcical. It shows a lack of emotional intelligence/maturity and delusion or ignoranc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/25 03:29 PM
0	Why are the good men so opposed to marriage recently? As someone who just recently got divorced .... never again. Most women are loyal to their emotions and that means you really can't trust them over the long term. People can change so much over life. I just don't see myself signing up to give away half my wealth on the bet that a woman's emotions won't change drastically with regard to me and her life circumstances. I may agree to a wedding and rings but I will not be signing any papers to make it legal. In my state there is no common law marriag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/25 03:20 PM
32	19m here. Is it normal to not cum during sex? I had the same issue when I was young.... It was a mental block. Once, I really became comfortable with a partner I finally managed to finish. I was surprised because I was so used to never finishing during sex. Try to be more present and attuned and it'll happen. You'll find the more you are able to feel vulnerable with your partner the more easy it'll be to finish.	/r/seduction	24/07/25 09:35 PM
2	How To Tell When A Woman Is Unsatisfied In Her Relationship? This guy is literally in a seduction forum asking how to find targets to cheat. You realize you will be damaging yourself in the process right?! You're narrow-minded sex-driven brain probably can't comprehend this but you will ruin the way you date moving forward with your perceptions. Your experiences and thought patterns shape you. If you go around finding women who are unhappy in relationships and take advantage of that to get them to sleep with you to feel a new high you will be reinforcing …	/r/seduction	16/07/25 06:17 AM
1	Experience in bed is a downside for men, not an upside Im trying to drive home a point that sex is mostly mental/emotional. Even things like "oh my partner is so tall and strong" are based on our psychological reactions to their physical stature. You THINK this person can physically dominate and protect you but in reality those situations don't often arise even if true. It's the idea in your head that turns you on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 02:01 AM
–	Experience in bed is a downside for men, not an upside This person gets it. Sex is 90% psychological. Most men think foreplay starts with kissing or when you enter the bedroom. It's an ongoing thing though. Cooking an awesome meal with no effort, picking a bomb ass wine, and then speaking at length about a neat adventure or a passion your working towards are all part of foreplay. They paint a picture of a man who is competent, adventurous, and goes for what he wants. Add in touch, suspense, build tension, and the sex following is going to be much be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:07 PM
10	I think men project their desires onto women, and that's why some of them are jealous of women's ability to get sex People do this with everything though .... even the most mundane shit like looks, money, height, physical prowess... stupid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 10:33 AM
1	For men: if you don’t approach women IRL - you have no reason to complain on this sub You had me in the first half ngl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 10:09 AM
1	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. You're young. You said everything yourself. You're just not looking hard enough. You're physically attractive but not attractive on other levels. You asking her to be your girl showed that you wanted the security of knowing you two would keep seeing each other and be yours. It's pretty telling. I had a lot of the same situations when I was young. Girls that would hook up with me but never stick around. I'd analyze the rest of your life and see what needs work there will be other women who draw t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 06:14 AM
3	From Andrew Tate to Sneako to JustPearlyThings to Fresh&Fit, virtually every major Red Pill creator is right-wing or leans that way. Meanwhile young men, their target audience, continue to vote overwhelmingly for the left. This shows that TRP isn't working and will never be mainstream I think maybe I have blurred the lines between parental and reproductive rights but my point still stands. Family law is inherently biased against men. I never stated men were being denied a right. I said women have rights with regard to reproduction and men don't. A mother can put a child up for adoption in a number of states without the consent of the father. That's a right she has. Her rights are established immediately and men's are only a possibility. You say the father can contest which I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:41 PM
2	From Andrew Tate to Sneako to JustPearlyThings to Fresh&Fit, virtually every major Red Pill creator is right-wing or leans that way. Meanwhile young men, their target audience, continue to vote overwhelmingly for the left. This shows that TRP isn't working and will never be mainstream You're still missing the point(while putting words in my mouth). Women can put their children up for adoption or abort the child which absolves them of financial responsibilities. Men can't do that. In this regard men have no rights and only responsibilities. The only thing he can do is contest adoption.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 08:32 AM
5	Q4M: I think your rating scale miscalibrated when talking about "average women". Which of these women is average to you? Most women and men in the us are overweight so somewhere between B and C is average tbh but age and socioeconomic upbringing are such huge factors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 07:14 AM
3	From Andrew Tate to Sneako to JustPearlyThings to Fresh&Fit, virtually every major Red Pill creator is right-wing or leans that way. Meanwhile young men, their target audience, continue to vote overwhelmingly for the left. This shows that TRP isn't working and will never be mainstream No, you really can't. A majority of child support offices force you to pay child support and will withhold the court ordered amount from your paycheck. So in essence if you make a bad decision and hook up with someone on a night out and she decides to keep the child your options are pay child support and be a dad or pay child support and don't be a dad. It's not exactly an option to walk away when your livelihood is impacted for 18 years. If you had a sister who put her child up for adoption but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:53 AM
3	From Andrew Tate to Sneako to JustPearlyThings to Fresh&Fit, virtually every major Red Pill creator is right-wing or leans that way. Meanwhile young men, their target audience, continue to vote overwhelmingly for the left. This shows that TRP isn't working and will never be mainstream I think you're triggered or upset by this topic which is understandable but I'm in no way attacking women's rights and have stated multiple times that I support them. If my sister or close friend became pregnant I'd want them to have the ability to get an abortion or put the child up for adoption. If one of them got an accidental pregnancy from a questionable man I would want them to not be tied to that man for 18+ years. Women can make those choices which goes far beyond just pregnancy and they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:05 AM
5	From Andrew Tate to Sneako to JustPearlyThings to Fresh&Fit, virtually every major Red Pill creator is right-wing or leans that way. Meanwhile young men, their target audience, continue to vote overwhelmingly for the left. This shows that TRP isn't working and will never be mainstream I said I support giving women those rights so I'm not sure who you're arguing with? My point is that with regard to children women have choice and men only have responsibility. If a man decides he doesn't want to be a father he doesn't have the option to walk away. I said men should get a choice and your response was solely about how women should get a unique option because of their unique situation. I already stated that I agree with that. While were at it let's also give men a choice as well. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 02:24 AM
5	From Andrew Tate to Sneako to JustPearlyThings to Fresh&Fit, virtually every major Red Pill creator is right-wing or leans that way. Meanwhile young men, their target audience, continue to vote overwhelmingly for the left. This shows that TRP isn't working and will never be mainstream It's not about being denied a medical procedure. It's the fact that women can choose to carry the child to term, give it up for adoption, or abort it. I would agree with giving them those rights. Men have no say with regard to the fetus or newborn... but are given responsibility regardless of if they want it or not. Additionally, women have many more choices for birth control(we could argue about the benefits and cons of those choices) and birth control for women on most healthcare plans is 100%…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 01:33 AM
0	I think most men don't truly understand what being attractive is, and can be just as entitled delusional as the women they complain about. You can have your opinion. I don't take issue with it but money can do a lot for you in the looks department.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 01:54 PM
0	Do men benefit from gender equality as well? There's this idea that gender equality will somehow magically create some utopia and uplift men and women. In reality, men and women are not the same and as a result the same things will never have the same effect on both genders. Men might not have to be providers for families but they'll still have to provide for themselves. Women rarely ever take care of men financially. I really don't see all the gender issues people grew up talking about. I was in honors classes and the vast majority of the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 01:49 PM
2	I think most men don't truly understand what being attractive is, and can be just as entitled delusional as the women they complain about. Most men cannot self improve their way to becoming a Chad without money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 01:30 PM
11	If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the most This is an extremely flawed argument. You're using an if-then statement but you haven't even established a strong direct link between the two. I personally don't think there is a very strong link between being decent and respectful and dating success. You may disagree that's fine but clearly showing respect isn't that important. You end your argument with an insult implying most of the people venting are probably not very decent or respectful at all. I believe you're capable of making a point ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 01:19 PM
7	If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the most My point is simply that there are entire spaces dedicated to teaching men how to date or be successful with women. If it wasn't so difficult for most men The Red Pill, Pick-Up Artists, and Dating Coaches wouldn't exist yet they do. MGTOW became a place for those who gave up or decided it was no longer worth it. A whole space was made for men who felt they couldn't succeed or the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I won't even comment on the hopeless void that is parts of the blackpill. Women have t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 01:10 PM
9	If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the most How do you know for sure that respectful, decent men aren't struggling the most in dating? Plenty of them aren't in a stable relationship and are looking for solutions and a place to vent about those struggles here on the internet. And some men claim to be respectful and decent and still don't struggle with dating while it's is clear that they aren't so respectful and decent as they think/claim they are. It's probably why places like FDS exist. The AskWomen, Offmychest, and AskFeminist subs are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 09:00 AM
1	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help I'm really sarcastic. My apologies, I meant no offense. The terms are more memes at this point so that was more my crude sense of humor. While I do appreciate hearing a different perspective I am quite satisfied with how I'm doing in all regards of my life, most notably financially. On another note, your username is quite the fit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 12:32 PM
8	It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship. This is based. When a woman really likes you she will approach you, touch you, be nervous, vulnerable or a number of other things but the point is her behavior will change. Men's behavior also changes drastically when in the presence of a women that they are heavily infatuated with. A woman should want to sleep with you quickly. If she doesn't that a huge red flag in my opinion. Once you get past sex other behaviors will begin to reveal more of the picture. Is she rude? Is she talking to a bunch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/23 02:41 PM
8	It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship. Good strategy for a woman sure but on average that's a horrible deal for the man in my opinion. Most people have horrible discipline. If you work in finance and look at credit, debt metrics, and retirement savings this is fairly apparent. If a women can suddenly be extremely disciplined when it comes to waiting for sex with you.... she probably isn't that into you. I've had more women upset at me for not being more aggressive in the pursuit of sex with them than the opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/23 02:36 PM
1	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help I would agree most of us don't go to war but at the same time men have always carried the risk of being forced to go to war at anytime. A healthy male citizen could absolutely be drafted even though it wasn't likely. In return for that burden they got a small voice in the say of the country. Women didn't carry that burden and still don't... I'm absolutely in favor of them being able to vote but they have never carried that burden.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/23 05:54 AM
5	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help I actually forgot that it was extremely common in Virginia for women to vote and hold property. Many widows and other women held immense political and economic power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 05:35 PM
5	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help Sure, I suppose we could go deeper and ask why men had the right to vote in the first place and women didnt? Men "earned" the right to vote through conscription just like African Americans and other minorities had to "earn" their freedom through conscription. Women while oppressed were rarely exposed to these horrors. My only point is that time is very relative and this post is so clearly trying to not give context. It's honestly ironic in and of itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 05:27 PM
2	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help You cant really compare previous generations easily. There's so many differing factors. Culture has changed, the economic climate has changed, dating culture has changed... it's not the same at all. These statements are exactly why younger generations don't want the advice of older generations. Cutting out avocado toast isn't going to get me the down payment for a house grandpa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 05:20 PM
2	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help As someone who has worked with homeless people and veterans your statements make it seem like you have minimal, if any interaction with those outside privileged communities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 05:07 PM
8	The left doesn’t need to cater to straight young men because they largely don’t need help Women got the Right to vote in 1920. All men got the right to vote in 1870.... That's only a 50 year gap. None of this was that long ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 04:57 PM
4	Are you a ‘Traditional man’ worthy of a ‘traditional woman’? (Question for men who seek a traditional relationship) I think she was arguing for the sake of argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:03 AM
1	Should men be offended if they have to get get money first before you date them? Sure, of course there are more factors but it's the approach that matters to most people. If you became rich and suddenly a bunch of people started hanging out with you in hopes to garner some of your expertise, resources and connections for themself that would be off putting to most people. I wouldn't call it morally wrong but I think most would find it distasteful. If on the other hand you met this person and they really just enjoyed spending time with you and over time you both realized you c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 02:13 AM
1	Should men be offended if they have to get get money first before you date them? This statement helps explain why some men are hesitant when dating older women. There are new factors for women when dating besides just physical attraction. The equation when younger had less factors with the main 2 being are you hot and do we get along. Simply put now men are wondering ok is she dating me because I'm hot and we get along? or is she dating me because I make decent money and we get along really well? or is it he's cute enough I guess and we get along really well and he makes goo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 10:14 AM
1	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough You said they're hitting on you now because you're attractive... that defeats the point of this argument. Also I doubt anyone in a club is walking in thinking that their husband or wife is inside that venue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 08:08 AM
5	CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset" As someone who is relatively large 6'1" ~220 lbs. I can tell you absolutely that you over estimate how much size you need to be attractive to women. At my current physique I get way more attention and respect from men. When I was 25 pounds lighter I got vastly more attention from women being much more lean. Women want status and entertainment as much as anyone else. If you want to get laid get good at building and leading social circles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 07:01 PM
2	Q4M, have you ever rejected a girl because she was too nice? Is this a real thing? I've never thought that. If anything as long as there is some physical attraction it makes me like them a lot more. It has even helped build my desire for them. I think partially because I feel like this is rare. As long as a girl isn't over the top clingy but is just kind then I find it very attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 07:19 AM
–	Why does society constantly label men who date younger than their age as creepy? That's a fair point. I don't completely agree but it's definitely a perspective I haven't heard. I only say this because I think it's very evident that older woman can still greatly dwarf other women in terms of attractiveness. Some of the most attractive women I've seen have been nearing 40 and would run laps around these 20 somethings. It's rare but not impossible. I think it's also ironic because the point about whoring ones sexuality out for money and lifestyle is constantly something a lot …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 01:34 AM
1	Would you agree that a lot of Red Pilled men suffer from the Madonna/whore complex? I think the context of why a man cheated is more important. The vast majority of male porn is visual but female porn is normally erotica. In the vast majority of these books the man is extremely powerful, has a gaggle of women begging for his attention whom he ignores and then magically falls for some women because she's just that special. The point is women would rather be with a very attractive male that made a mistake as opposed to pairing up with a loser who spent money to see a whore becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 01:26 AM
1	Would you agree that a lot of Red Pilled men suffer from the Madonna/whore complex? I think if anything your argument is a direct case against itself. If they had anxiety towards women's sexuality they wouldn't interact or sleep with them but plenty of them do. Just because they don't interact with them doesn't mean there is an anxiety. There's plenty of reasons to not pursue something we desire apart from anxiety. I think honestly the best sex requires some degree of comfort or trust. Most women will not let you do more invasive or obscene sex acts the first night. Most of tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 01:11 AM
5	Men who advocate for trad relationships, what do you expect your relationship to look like in the future? I think what this person is stating and perhaps not very well is what if there isn't active wrong doing on either side and things go south what would or should happen. For instance, what if you're wife developed some sort of ailment after having your first child and now you could no longer have sex with her? What if you get injured at work and now you can only work at a desk part time making a much more meager wage than previously? Life happens. In either case would you expect both parties to st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 12:29 AM
1	Men who advocate for trad relationships, what do you expect your relationship to look like in the future? I'll be honest I don't think the model of SAHM and 1 income isn't really smart or viable for a number of reasons and each person should tailor their relationship accordingly. That being said I'm somewhat traditional. I make pretty good money and dated my ex for about 4 years until I relocated for a job. I don't want kids until I'm mid 30's and would look for someone younger than myself. My income could support a family on its' own. My ex's sister had a kid and while she was working and we split …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 12:22 AM