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You're wrong about there being two choices. You can tell yourself there's a choice, but in this instance there isn't. "Enjoy The Decline!" is not a choice of action, but of attitude. We don't have a choice when it comes to there being a decline. THAT'S what you're missing. You think attempting to return to the "traditional" configuration is a choice? What you're speaking of, trying to change the system from the bottom up with unwilling partners—women—is akin to suggesting that one try to stop a …
/r/TheRedPill30/11/15 10:02 PM
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Don't presume to speak for everyone here, bro'.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 11:25 PM
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Geez. That entire post sounds like it was written, proof read, edited, and published by the Rationalization Hamster. Although, this shit right here? On #8? That sounds like a beta wrote that shit. They genuinely want to spend time with you. There are no ulterior motives. That statement reeks of beta male Game. I refuse to believe any non-mentally disabled woman that's ever interacted with men is stupid enough to believe that shit.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/15 02:42 AM
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I was this girls' "Side Nigga" for about 7 years. None of the men she pretended to be in exclusive relationships with ever found out. How? I was always a "long time family friend", her "cousin", etc, and on top of the fact that she deleted all of our text message exchanges regularly, she had my phone number memorized so she didn't even have to keep me saved as a contact. Oh! And she also had this app that, on top of already having a password for her phone, added a whole 'nother layer of protecti…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/15 01:55 AM
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Another bit of info: Lesbians earn more money than gay men. Why? Because they are working with female hypergamy in full effect. All of the data available at this point has left me believing the following: Lesbianism isn't as much about sex as it is about dysfunctional women getting their needs (partly emotional) met. Lesbian bed death is a thing, though I think something needs to be alive before it can die, and compared to gay men (or straight men and women), lesbian have very little sex. If sci…
/r/askTRP26/07/15 04:38 PM
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That's a big part of it, you're right. There's a ton of shit that just wouldn't fly if men held together and collectively said "NO." ...but, inevitably, a few men break ranks for the mere suggestion that it may get them pussy (whether true or not), and before you know it the whole formation has fallen apart, there's chaos on the battlefield, and the enemy cavalry is corralling, isolating and picking off the troops individually...
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 07:00 AM
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I'm an atheist, became one more so after reading the bible in full, but there's stuff in there I still appreciate. My favorite book is Ecclesiastes. "The more the words, the less the meaning." is probably my favorite saying out of it. Succinctness and stoicism, to me, go hand in hand...
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 06:53 AM
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Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man...
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 06:51 AM
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As Rational Male calls it, "Open Hypergamy". Our culture is so permissive when it comes to women that the dominant narrative now says that it's Ok for women to continue behaving and dressing in a way that says "I'm on the market". Society says "Y-you can't tell women how to dress! You can't tell women what to do!", the unquestionably gynocentric majority Listens And Believes, and anyone that disagrees is now some woman hating monster. This is why, as far as I'm concerned, LTRs are dead, and anyo…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 03:23 AM
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I've been trying to get this through a friend's thick skull lately. "What do you think she was thinking as she [lied to my face about loving me, even though she left me less than a week later]?" Who. The fuck. Cares? I'ts like these men want the reality right in from of them dispelled so badly that they're willing to go chase after irrelevancies so they can dive back into their dream-world again. She fucking did it. The fuck does it matter how she justifies it, or whatever the fuck else? It's li…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 03:10 AM
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They know men have a need for certainty, and they game it by continuing to lie. Yeah, they were already caught, but they understand that it doesn't matter. The usual man is hoping so strongly that what he's witnessed isn't true, that their precious isn't just like all of the other whores, that they'll eat up the next lie that comes out of her whore-mouth. Women know this, that they can save themselves from a lie by lying more, so of course they do it. It's a sad state of affairs, the denial most…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 03:04 AM
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No one makes good LTR material, in context.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 02:59 AM
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During my first year in the Marine Corps I witnesses a couple of Sergeants (E-5) and a Staff Sergeant (E-6) get busted down to Private First Class (E-2) because this little E-2 slut fucked all of them and then told on them. ("Fraternization" isn't allowed in the Marines.) I stayed away from female Marine the rest of my time in...though it wasn't very difficult with the total force being 6% female at the time, and my MOS in specific being 4% female. Most of the females in the units I ended up in …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 07:00 AM
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I don't understand why you're being downvoted. It seems like the lost contingent of moralists that like to frequent this subreddit still haven't gotten the message.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 07:32 PM
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I think you meant to say everyone else around them is miserable. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) And, in a way, a lot of this red pill stuff, as far as picking up women goes, is aping the behavior of actual dark triads. It's been long know that men with strong dark triad traits are regarded as more sexually attractive by women. Edit to add: I'd argue that one can't try to score high on the dark triad. That's why so many men fail at game; they simply don't have the qualities that enable someone to truly not give a f…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 04:37 PM
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Research has found that people are more likely to be close friends with people that share more of their genes. I think it's very possible that women that are likelier to divorce just like to be around each other. Saying that it's being caused by hanging around divorcees may be putting the cart before the horse. Either way, this woman wouldn't have confessed to cheating if there wasn't something in it for her. I'm not buying OP's bit about her just doing it 'cause she's just a really honest perso…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 03:38 PM
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My view is that it probably has little to do with upbringing. Daughter will prob turn out worse than mom, if she takes after mom more than dad. Because, not only will she share mom's proclivities, but she will also be growing up in a far more decadent, far more permissive society than even mommy. You think it's bad now? Heh...
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 03:02 PM
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The cheers for Chad will come if he ever posts a stellar FR. Stop being so hurt. 👋
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:39 PM
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Nah. I think wifey deserves a bit more credit. No one is doing this man a favor by making this seem like anything but what we know it is. Let this man swallow the red pill already. Out with these delusions about wifey having "bad influences". That's a cop out and it leads to purple pill purgatory and confusion.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:36 PM
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Yeah. A woman isn't going to do something unless there's something in it for her. (Or rather, unless she at least strongly believes there's something in it for her.) This whole "Oh, she told me because she's just an honest person" bit? Not buying it. The monkey in question already had its next branch in sight. Hell, she might already be gripping it.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:29 PM
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Glad to know I'm not the only one that starts getting a boner when a girl starts crying. I really feel at home here.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:17 PM
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I was 100% loyal throughout the years. Ahh, the assumption of Relational Equity. Hypergamy still doesn't care.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:14 PM
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In present context, you're a dude with no money. You could be Bill Gates in-the-making, but that doesn't mean shit because you're not Bill Gates right-the-fuck-now. He'd have probably still been cheated on if he was Bill Gates. Let's not send mixed messages here. "Extra-pair mating" (cheating) is about opportunity...
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 01:05 PM
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I'm not going to spend the rest of my life pretending to love someone who doesn't respect me enough not to spread her legs for some random dude. Just don't go thinking that anyone else you'll find is any different. Hypergamy Doesn't Care. I think the only true way to get respect from a woman is to not fall for any of her shit... Good luck out there.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 12:58 PM
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This is true. I like pushing the limits of degrading language while having sex, and women in relationships gush when they're told that they're disgusting, unfaithful whores mid-fuck.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 12:48 PM
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Hm.... I have to wonder if doing that would also bring humanity's extinction. (Assuming such a thing could be done. All of the factors at play currently fueling female primacy seem like they'd be hard to suppress enough to do this.) And then there's the fact that any society not working to select these traits out of women would probably outbreed the rest.
/r/MGTOW30/06/15 03:27 AM
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The female id in action. I bet if anyone got hurt she'd blame them for trying to stop her. It's like they think having a vagina gives them the right to do as they please...but I guess society isn't correcting that belief, so...
/r/MGTOW29/06/15 04:55 AM
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The women in this video react even worse. Is anyone else surprised to see that out of everyone that they stop women are the very worst? They feel completely entitled, refuse to accept that they're wrong, and react violently when they don't get their way. ...but, what else is new?
/r/MGTOW29/06/15 04:42 AM
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Is she, like....loaded? Like, filthy rich?
/r/MGTOW28/06/15 08:07 PM
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Many of the best minds in history were celibate and never married In modernity, a lot of people have tried to force the view that many of these men were homosexuals, but that falls flat when you look at the evidence (for example, their own writing). For artists in particular, read up on Apollonianism and Dionysianism to learn why classical artists preferred to depict the male form. Classicism is strongly rooted in Apollonianism. These men recognized the trappings of femaleness, and the irrationa…
/r/MGTOW28/06/15 10:43 AM
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So Diana Davison, which many here have speculated is the reason why John has been arguing against evo psych, has just released a new video attempting to debunk evo psych, but achieving no such thing. She spends just about the first half of the video going off on completely irrelevant topics in hopes that we don't notice that it has nothing to do with the widely tested and proven hypothesis that natural selections affects our brains, and by extension, or behavior and cognition. What is she using …
/r/MGTOW28/06/15 10:01 AM
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LOL! Yeah. Reading shit like this always gets me going. In a caring world men like this would just be put out of their misery, but that's not the kind of world we live in. Hahahaha. That's the worst part about it, too. Knowing that most of these guys are so far gone that there's nothing you can do. Shoving the red pill down their throats would be like giving medicine to the dead.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/15 07:30 AM
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They won't. There are countless willing betas lining up for the opportunity to get their dicks wet anyway that they can. A personal example: A righteously unrepentant blue pill high school friend of mine, which I'd been trying to help for years to no effect, recently fucked (and got into a very short lived relationship with) a woman so disgusting that he is essentially dead to me. I wish he would have fucked some pudgy cunt instead of the ~42 year old bar troll that he bagged. * fucking gag *
/r/TheRedPill28/06/15 06:56 AM
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The thought that came to mind when I got to the Hypergamy is Contextual section: "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King!" Excellent post (with links to other excellent posts to boot)!
/r/TheRedPill28/06/15 06:49 AM
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It's true. I'm 6'0 and women are always thinking I'm 6'2 and up. I should stop correcting them. Haha.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/15 03:44 AM
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To piggy-back off of this, my take on Game is that it is essentially a tool for men to maximize so-called "alpha" traits.....but these traits are things you are mostly born with, and that includes limits. You can do something about body fat and muscle, but almost nothing about facial aesthetics, and nothing about your height. Dark Triad traits? You may be able to fake them some, maybe even increase them some, but I think everyone's pretty much got some lines they'll never be able to bring themse…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 04:20 AM
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some guys think they can tame a slut That reminds me of a post I saw here a while ago titled something like "whether you like it or not, you're in an open relationship". I've implied similar things in the past (pointing out that "love" doesn't shut off a person's ability to be sexually attracted to someone else), and the response has been violent. Haha. A harem without rotating girls sounds like a headache. I'll leave that fun to Saudi royalty. It's gonna take some tweaking once I get back to da…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 04:49 AM
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And what's worse about that aspect of democracy is that the unpopular view is sometimes what is needed the most. The sheep hate the fucking truth so much that they'd rather elect sweet talkers promising to grant them all of their wishes and then look the other way when these sweet talkers get into office and do things worse than those speaking unpopular truths. I won't pretend to know what the fix would be, I just know that this isn't sustainable.
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 04:46 PM
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and sex isn't even likely Jesus. Just get the fuck out. You need to do what the meatheads on Misc say, and go to North Carolina (No Contact). This bitch sounds like a Borderline Personality Disorder attention whore. Seriously cut her lose. And go hit up the sidebar and read The Manipulated Man if you haven't already. And read goddamn Anatomy of Female Power.
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 03:17 AM
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The only talk of I'd tolerate about "gender fluid" is of the type that's gonna end up on her tits, stomach, or back. (ી(΄◞ิ౪◟ิ‵)ʃ)
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 03:11 AM
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Saw the r/nofap posts too. LOL wut
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 03:08 AM
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The Supreme Gentleman. A real human bean. (And a real an hero)
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 03:05 AM
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I don't vote. Democracy was a mistake.
/r/MGTOW25/06/15 02:52 AM
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Sure. (Editor's note: Just as I'm writing it down, I'm already recognizing how silly it is to hold an absolutist value of integrity in my dealings, when, for example, I would extend my enemies no such courtesy. And while women aren't my enemy in the traditional sense [though they could very well be], their wish to use me disqualifies them from this courtesy. I'm already on the road to uprooting this silly hangup, but I'll give you my original response nonetheless, as your reply could more inform…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/15 02:49 AM
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Yeah. I've seen both his recent videos attempting to explain what we already know: That JtO is operating under some delusion about the effects of natural selection, how they magically....just...don't affect behavior. But, HEY, never mind that! Just keep focusing on this little ball over here. Yes, the one being used in hopes that everyone will continue to focus on the argument that no one cares about, about whether women are "evil" or not! I've also seen Stardusk and GirlWritesWhat's MGTOW Talks…
/r/MGTOW24/06/15 08:23 AM
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The future, powered by tapping into the bottomless well that is female rationalization. Just think of the possibilities...
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 12:42 AM
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So, the entire post is essentially her humble bragging. LOL! Women never fail to entertain.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 12:40 AM
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I'm MGTOW and I mostly agree with what you're saying here. I'm new to Reddit, but not to Game (c. 2008) or to MGTOW (c. 2012), and after enough interactions I think the vast majority of the people in the MGTOW subreddit are incels and marriage-strikers...which is different from the men I've been interacting with in the YouTube side of things, which is less emotionally inclined and more philosophically inclined. My views are better received on YT than on the MGTOW subreddit. Anyhow... On celibacy…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 07:45 AM
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The place to go to be inundated by more of the same blue pill bullshit you see everywhere else.
/r/MGTOW21/06/15 12:23 AM
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I believe the point hath flown over thine head.
/r/MGTOW21/06/15 12:11 AM
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LOL! Yes. Exactly.
/r/MGTOW20/06/15 09:23 AM
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I'm glad they made this video, particularly since I got the feeling that John the Other's video was taking shots at men like Stardusk.
/r/MGTOW19/06/15 12:34 PM
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I came close to calling it white knighting in my write up....but I still haven't decided if that's really what it is. Note, however, that JtO does currently cohabitate with a woman. Diana Davison, the runner of the "Feminism LOL" youtube channel. Many at AVFM blame the drama that broke out between then and John on Diana. I've been inclined do not believe it, partly due to the evidence that both JtO and Diana have shared, but....who really knows?
/r/MGTOW19/06/15 12:32 PM
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I generally like JtO also. More so since he went full-MGTOW. Hell, I just recommended him to someone in this sub a few days ago! As long as he doesn't keep this up, then my recommendation shouldn't be too much of an egg on my face. LOL
/r/MGTOW19/06/15 01:28 AM
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At first I thought JtO's spiel on anonymity was being fueled by rank stupidity. I was going "People staying anonymous because they're afraid of being shamed? Are you fucking kidding? Has this motherfucker heard of Tim Hunt?!" ...but now I think it is all a deceitful humble brag about something he didn't choose to do on his own, and which he can't undo. A post-hoc rationalization to make himself look Holier than thou. You see, I think JtO is hoping that no one notices that his de-anonymization wa…
/r/MGTOW19/06/15 01:06 AM
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We don't get much of a choice in what happens to us (like your living in an "estrogen/feminist stronghold"), but we can choose the attitude that we will have about it.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 12:50 PM
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Aside from a general distaste for Game, a lot of the kids here are pretty blue pill as well (marriage strikers/InCels, etc), so your topic will be taken worse than if it had fallen on deaf ears.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 12:45 PM
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straight up about your intentions You fucking wot, m8? Are you still wet behind the ears? I have no idea what OP is on about (because archive.is is down as of this writing) but deception and manipulation is woman's realm. The average woman, in action, makes your adept Sun Tzu student look like a neophyte. Like, women won't even associate with men that they can't get something out of, but here you are going on about mutuality. Of course, women never own up to this, partly because they're unaware …
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 12:39 PM
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You're the only one bringing "misogyny" into this conversation. I have no idea what you're on about.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 12:06 PM
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No, but he's become what was described here He might have been a real person at some point but now he behaves like vapid, empty product of the youtube age.
/r/MGTOW16/06/15 12:05 PM
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Pretty fucking dense, aren't you? If turning into a hopeless ignoramus that's somehow stumbled onto a conversation he knows extremely little about is what "knowing" as much as you do is about, then, kind, learned sir, I'd really rather not. How do you even end up here without being caught up on something as foundational as gynocentrism? Your level of righteously indignant ignorance is truly astounding. Gynocentrism, which could be distilled to "seeing women's value as inherent" (while men's valu…
/r/MGTOW15/06/15 05:04 AM
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This is good and all if you like being angry. But...otherwise? What's the point, even? We all know what women mean when they say they want equality. (Or rather, we should know.) Why get mad when they don't show up to prove the assumptions about "equality" made by those who aren't fluent in womanese?
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 11:28 PM
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My hypothesis is that man's yearning for woman is mostly emotional, so I'd say the "red pill" should work just fine. Read The Manipulated Man. Read Anatomy of Female Power. Read "Briffault's law" over and over until it sinks in. If consciously learning and accepting that women don't give two shits about you, only what you could provide/do for them doesn't do it, then a pill that simply kills your sexual desire may not save you.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 10:03 PM
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I remember them warning me that my libido may be killed when they tried anti-depressants with me several years ago (combat PTSD therapy, etc), but they did no such thing to me either.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 09:53 PM
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I've helped a lot of people in the past who've asked for help with "confidence"...but now that I sit here and think about it, what is there really to say? What is it that you're asking for, OP? What do you want? You say you'r intelligent, creative, hard working....what else do you want? To what ends do you want "confidence" for? What's in it for you?
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:58 PM
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And it doesn't work that way anyhow. That's like saying "If gynocentrism was so bad for men, it would have been selected out by natural selection." That's just not how it works. Whatever promotes reproduction is selected for, that's it. Gynocentrism promotes reproduction. So, no matter how many men perish through it, it will stay.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:40 PM
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If you don't already know that selection only cares for the things that maximize reproduction, even to the detriment of the individual organism, then these "decades" that you believe you have over me have been a total waste. Take humanity's gynocentric nature, for example. It turns man into machines. Machines to protect women, machines to serve women, machines to develop civilization to such a point that woman can't even tell that it is these male machines still toiling away for them that make t…
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:34 PM
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You can download it here. It's just 595KB. Wait....I just noticed it's on the sidebar right below The Manipulated man... Either way, I like this version a lot better. The one on the sidebar is a page by page scan. The one I have is re-done digitally. It's nice and clean. (Though...missing the same pages as the direct scan.)
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:26 PM
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No idea what an "omega male" is, or care for that matter, but if you're interested in more in-depth content (i.e. not Sandman), then check the video section in the sidebar. I recommend Barbarossaaa and Stardusk. Not listed, but just as good, is John The Other. He went MGTOW fully recently and his videos have never been better. Also of interest, check out this old fellow's video on "The Feminine Mind". This is...more on the "philosophical" end of things, but still as valid. When it comes to truly…
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:50 AM
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You're even more lost than I thought you were. You've got some learning to do. I recommend this lecture as a crash course. Particularly the sections on human sexual behavior. What is bad for DNA is always bad for the individual and vice-versa. Always and forever. You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Happy learning! 👋
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 08:03 AM
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Let's sum it up: Um... 1] If it happened like she said it did then it is rape. 2] Evidence points to it not happening like she said it did.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 05:47 AM
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If love was always in the wrong we'd soon stop having any. You're mistaking what's good for the individual for what's good for DNA.
/r/MGTOW14/06/15 04:40 AM
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Exactly. I see many of my male friends and acquaintances on Facebook friend obviously fake profiles daily. Most people never stop long enough to think about anything they do.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 07:11 PM
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Take away a chicks make-up and all the shit they use for their hair and clothing and they look unfuckable A photo album full of pics of porn stars before and after makeup drove that reality home for me a few years back. Since superficiality is the essence of woman, I actually prefer to never see a chick without makeup if I don't have to.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 07:08 PM
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I'll probably go to MGTOW.com, and continue as I have on Youtube and Twitter.
/r/MGTOW13/06/15 03:18 AM
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I agree...aside from that part about hating anything. I'm beyond that. I don't give enough of a fuck about women or the system to hate it. Anyways. this reminds me of an old post on Return To The Plantation Return Of Kings, where it advised "hiding your power level." I think only one of my friends, who has gone celibate after being REKT by his BPD ex-girlfriend, knows that I'm MGTOW. Everyone else pretty much knows that I don't do exclusive relationships, cohabitation, kids, or marriage, but clo…
/r/MGTOW13/06/15 03:17 AM
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Weird that his dick couldn't tell him if he was gay or not before he fucked a faggot...
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 06:18 AM
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If you don't know you should've just said so. Well, bye! 👋
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 03:31 AM
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On her site she calls him an "actor" and claims she had a "director". She's already jumped the shark by saying this isn't meant to be a reenactment of her rape rape fantasy, and that watching the video for the wrong reasons is the same as having raped her (I bet she's been flicking her bean at the thought of that). I don't even know what it would be called if she then accused this schmuck of rape too.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 01:46 AM
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If you listen carefully at around the 2:54 mark, you can actually hear her say "Hit me again." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 01:08 AM
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This is a challenge fap for me. No homo, but that chubby kid is very off-putting. She looks like she got dropped on her face one time too many as a baby, but I'm sure she could've gotten someone a little fitter. ...but knowing how psychotic this bitch is, generating disgust was probably her goal. Haha...
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 01:01 AM
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This "myth" -- while it's been around for a few centuries now -- is actually of relatively modern origin. I've argued that elsewhere (I think it was one of those "neomasculinity" dudes on the comments of that Prison Planet guy's video) and got shit on pretty hard. Haha. The topic hasn't really interested me that much, so I know of it but not the specifics. Thanks for the link. Will read. 👍
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 12:58 AM
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Kindly define "evil" for us, then, sir.
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 12:54 AM
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You're being downvoted because people newbies here want to make MGTOW a movement moovement. ⊙ω⊙
/r/MGTOW09/06/15 12:50 AM
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I think the first step (if there are any beyond it...) is to recognize and accept that women will never quench this thirst, and that the cultural narrative claiming they would is and always has been myth.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:34 PM
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you're hating on all women going on about how broken they are as a gender That's strange. I don't remember saying that at all. It's almost like your strong emotional reaction is causing you to see things which are actually not there. I don't argue that women are "broken" (or "evil", as you said before). In fact, I argue that their behavior is highly adaptive. But...just because I choose not to go play with lions before they've had their lunch doesn't mean I hate them...does it? They're not all i…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 05:31 PM
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Hilarious that you speak of being a Buddhist when it's obvious that you're the one that hasn't let go. Let's step back and put this into perspective here: You're an online forum that you've chosen to come and repeatedly return to, flying off the handle and calling other men "misogynists" because your their summary of the female human's tendencies doesn't jive with your estimation of them. Why are you even here, Mr. Buddhist? You've got some letting go to do...
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:51 PM
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Reminds me of Sandman.
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:41 PM
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I never once said I had attachment to women. I doesn't matter what you said. The message is loud and clear, and this response in particular pretty much proves it. Look at you, little white knight. Raging in behalf of your goddesses because a mere human dared challenge their godhood. Nothing about recognizing women as they are and speaking truth to power is "hatred". But I guess when you love women so intensely, anything that isn't sandwiched by praise is hatred. You've exposed yourself. That jig…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:31 PM
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LOL! Speaking of, I just got called a misogynist by one of these pussies. Why are these idiots even coming here?
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:24 PM
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She had the site taken down and brought back up with an edited version of the video. They blurred out the date stamp now (here's a screenshot of the original, whose date stamp was set to the date of the alleged rape), which shows that her intent was to create a reenactment of the alleged rape. I hope he sues the fuck out of her. As for the cock sucking.....I hope, for her sake, that she gets a lot better. (¬‿¬)
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:15 PM
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(I guess now that the site is working again people can actually watch it. Maybe I should've linked to the archived page and to a site were the mirror was available...) Yes, that was her. And yes. The lawsuit launched against the school by the falsely accused includes many of the text exchanges they had, which paints a pretty clear picture of the reasons why homeboy got the fuck away from her. I mean...you would have to be the biggest mangina in the world to still want to be involved with a chick…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:11 PM
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An update on this. The site linked above had gone down for a few days. Emma and Co. claimed it was because of a cyber attack, but pretty much no one that wasn't already committed to believe her narrative believed that. Now that the site is back up? We all know that was bullshit for sure. She took the site down to edit the video. What did they change? Even though she claims this has nothing to do with the night that she alleges she was brutally anally raped, she had the video show a date stamp wi…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 04:10 PM
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Whether you continue to like pussy or not, you need to evict this attachment to the owners of pussy. Women aren't like you. You've been taught that they were, but that's wrong. They don't care about you like you care about them. Women would take everything you value and hold dear, whether tangible or intangible, and wipe their asses with it if they thought it would make their lives easier. Now...I'm not one for value judgments, but I wouldn't hold it against a single man if he became aware of th…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 08:23 AM
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Wow. Huffy-puffy. Reading your response, one would think that I was trying to flamebait your or something. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Bro', did you totally miss the part about sexual selection? Your conception of "fitness" seems to be narrowing your ability to think to the point that you can't recognize that women's mate selection is dualistic. Have you missed the flow of study after study after study which repeatedly point to the fact that the men which women are most attracted to when fertile are the men lea…
/r/MGTOW08/06/15 07:51 AM
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If you put a boy and a man in a boxing ring, the man should always win. If the boy is winning, the man is asleep at the wheel. You are making a semantics argument. No one thinks that the "boy" in "bad boy" is literal, and it is silly to imply so. Two reasons why so few women (zero?) have an Electra complex is possibly due to single mothers and the feminist agenda to clobber all things male Electra wot, m8? I just sufficiently explained why women go for men with a strong sex appeal ("bad boys"). …
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 11:12 PM
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Hm. Seems like OP nuked account.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 08:10 PM
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I think not putting yourself into a position where it's possible to be cheated on is the best option. ...I'm not talking about literally chaining a bitch down. I mean not doing this "exclusive" bullshit. Also, no, I'm not talking about open relationships. I'm talking about perpetually spinning plates. Sound tiring? The alternative is getting rekt by bae...
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 07:31 PM
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Reading shit likes this makes my stomach turn to the point that I'll never consider something as delusional as an "exclusive relationship". I'll let Thomas Hobbes describe my ideal relationship with women: "—nasty, brutish, and short." ✌
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 07:30 PM
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In my adventures playing The Other Man I've always mad sure to not fuck the chicks at their place. Too easy getting caught there.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 07:22 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ah...And people wonder why lesbians are always so ampted up about men being around their girls. Their girls are prone to going for dick on the low, and they know this.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 07:19 PM
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But how long before it happens again? I have wonderful woman in my life whom is a great support and complements my personality.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 07:10 PM
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I'll check out TMM first. It's a few decades older than AoFP, so that would be the way to go. I've only been with a few so far No need to limit yourself to sexual partners. You can learn a great deal by observing female family, friends, acquaintances, and co-workers. Briffaul's Law breaks it down pretty succinctly, actually. If anything, my urging that men read TMM & AoFP is due to the fact that the things that Briffault's Law covers needs to be reiterated & demonstrated in a number of ways befo…
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 05:56 AM
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"Why is the bad boy winning the war against the good man?" Natural selection, among other things? Evolution is often painted as the survival of the fittest, but it is also the proliferation of the sexiest (sexual selection). Proximally, we could say women fuck bad boys because they're the ones that give them the most gina tingles. But what about the distal cause? It is because selection has placed in us a bias towards members of the species which, if bred with, would provide offspring which woul…
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 05:45 AM
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The way I see it as a shit test, -- all you have to do is be willing to tell women that bad boys aren't really men and then shame women who go after them as being predictable sluts. Are you suggesting that shaming women who like bad boys (and, indirectly, the bad boys themselves) would do anything besides increase their attraction to bad boys? lol, nah, brother. Firstly, when the culture is as permissive as it is (and let's not bother hypothesizing about turning this around, it's not happening u…
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 05:36 AM
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prone to be controlled by societal bullshit that emphasizes "go with your heart" Actually, they are the authors of such things (I call them "girlisms"). I think this is you seeing women as they want to be seen, which is a mistake. Srsly go read The Manipulated Man and/or Anatomy Of Female Power (ask me for PDF). Whether it is done subconsciously or otherwise, manipulation is women's realm... Edit to add: As to your question, though there are definitely things that most of us would argue disquali…
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 04:54 AM
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The "marriage strike" is about depriving women of marriage until they change....which is misguided in my view. Women are great at switching masks, so if it ever gets bad enough for women to pretend to change, it won't be good for men anyhow.
/r/MGTOW07/06/15 04:50 AM
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And even before. Here's a study, titled "Trends in Premarital Sex in the United States, 1954–2003" that I love using to shit all over people that love to fantasize about how women were "pure" in the recent past. TL;DR - Even for those born as far back as the 1940's, 9 in 10 women had sex before marriage.
/r/MGTOW06/06/15 07:18 PM
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Anatomy of Female Power by Chinweizu.
/r/MGTOW05/06/15 03:10 PM
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Extreme thirst. This beta had his dream come true. I bet the only reason this dude didn't blow a load in seconds and lose his boner is because he felt terrible choking and slapping the psycho around. You can even hear her directing him to hit her again around the 2:53 mark. Haha.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 06:10 AM
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After seeing a lot of men my age and younger going on about how dating a "gamer girl" would be the bestest, and being slightly confused from knowing sexual attraction has nothing to do with shared interests (these same guys would give up gaming if a hot enough girl made it part of the terms for being in a relationship with her), I set out to figure this out on my own. I did some thinking on the subject, taking what I'd learned previously, and concluded that it's mostly a preference adopted to pr…
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 05:37 AM
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While you're ahead, do you want any recommended reading? This is stuff I wish I'd read before I ever got my hands on The Myth Of Male Power, or much, much earlier, when I was your age. These books are older (one by a few decades, the other by a few years) and cut much deeper (Warren Farrell is a former Feminist, after all). Anyways, here they are: The Manipulated Man, by Esther Vilar (available to download as a PFD in the sidebar), and Anatomy of Female Power, by Chinweizu (I have the PDF availa…
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 03:39 AM
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I think it's that contemporary men are in love with this idea of the "girl next door". I guess their thinking is that a homely, slightly boyish, not-too-attractive woman is less likely to be a huge slut on the low, and/or less likely to dump him because their being equally chump-y would create a stronger connection....or something. (I dunno, it takes work to revert back to my pre-red pill mentality.)
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 02:53 AM
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This. Cut your loses, OP, and prepare to see him have his soul slowly sucked away. It doesn't matter what you tell these men. Or even what they know. Like, look at the idiots at AVFM, knowing what they should know better than most organizations, acting as if marriage is still a viable thing for men, in 20-fucking-15, when it's been decades since people like Esther Vilar and Chinweizu dropped the red pill on us and warned us to wake the fuck up. Even if he decides not to listen to wifey and cut y…
/r/MGTOW02/06/15 02:34 AM
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problems LMAO! Wat!
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 03:38 PM
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After having attentively read Paglia's "Sexual Personae" from cover to cover, "vampire" sounds just right for how it is that women behave in relation to men. (A book five times longer than Anatomy of Female Power, but I recommend it as well.) I would go as far as to say that vampirism is more appropriately associated with femaleness that with maleness. Paglia's thoughts on the subject have convinced me of this. The very act of intercourse is like vampirism. Paglia says that "Beauty is an encroac…
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 08:06 AM
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You're being kept as one of her plans B, C, D, E, etc. Exes are real easy for women to keep as plan B's 'cause they're kind of a known factor. Fucking cut her out of your life, brah. Let her keep some other chumps as backups.
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 07:26 AM
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To women social death is death.
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 03:47 AM
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Even when somewhat interested, women can scare away easy (social standing is a big deal for them, so [when sober] they thread carefully in how they behave), so it's difficult to call it unless you take a chance (not what rejection-averse men want to hear, but it's just the nature of the beast). I'd recommend heading over and reading /r/theredpill, or just going and asking directly on /r/askTRP. I'd look out for/ask about IOI's, "indicators of interest". (In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with…
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 12:49 AM
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LOL. Funny topic. Women will mostly just stare. The braver ones will compliment you. If they feel brave enough they'll touch you, but that's usually only after you've opened the door for them by displaying some interest. (Like, seeming receptive to/starting a conversation...which you may not have a choice to if your day job is customer service, like me. Q_Q) For me, it's mostly women complimenting/asking about/trying to touch/asking to touch my hair (it's long-ish, curly, and decently taken care…
/r/MGTOW01/06/15 12:18 AM
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But...isn't your own post an example of what you're speaking against? MGTOW sort of covers a wide range of things. Like, I've been a MGTOW for several years now (though I've only adopted the title within the last few years), and have been involved in the conversation mainly on Youtube and Twitter. Coming here and seeing the "Goals Of MGTOW" on the sidebar was a bit disorienting. A lot of it seems antithetical to the conception of MGTOW that myself and the MGTOW I've been associating with have...…
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 11:55 PM
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I'm all for this as long as the purpose is agitation. Otherwise it's all a bit...meh.
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 11:39 PM
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If you're "not cynical" it really shouldn't be all that difficult to not sound it...right? I don't understand why you'd care if it "sounds" cynical, though. Maybe you are cynical and want to avoid being told so by others because it would compromise your self image? Things to think about...
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 11:36 PM
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For me, getting over bitterness happened naturally as I learned more and more. I am now at a point where I can see why things have turned the way they have. This understanding has gotten me to a point where, with the principle of wisely choosing your battles in mind, I've just....let go. I'm not even all that angry about being "lied to" all of my life. Most people just don't know better (and the large, large majority never will), so it's pointless being angry that someone ignorant only having ig…
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 11:19 PM
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Learning and then accepting that acquiring women/a woman will never fill the void felt from being an individual entity can definitely zap your motivation. Once you start noticing that a lot of things you did were done solely to make yourself seem as more desirable for pussy, it's kinda hard to just...un...notice it. (is that a werd?) The only solution is to forge a new purpose, but it'll ultimately have to be forged by you. That's the hard part. No one else can do it for you. It will take lots o…
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 11:02 PM
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For women "love" means one of the following things: You're the man that turns me on the most at the moment, and/or You're the best provider that I've been able to nab so far ...or it could just be a lie, and she's in that limbo period where she's yet to secure the next dick/provider before jumping off of your ship. Attractive women don't usually have to deal with this, though, since they always have an orbiter or two waiting in the wings.
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 10:46 PM
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I'm a "trend-hopper" like someone that learns addition and subtraction before they learn multiplication and division. But since you're doubling down on your denial of basic knowledge, I won't waste my time with you anymore. Good luck on never figuring out why things work the way they do! 👌
/r/MGTOW31/05/15 07:24 PM
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I know, right? What a cheap bastard. Haha.
/r/MGTOW30/05/15 07:32 PM
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The bonds that hold men and women together are being weakened with technology. Our opportunistic sexual drives long predate the invention of this "bond" between men and women. Calling our species predicament a "bond" is quite the euphemism. Like saying two strangers forced into the same cage are in an intimate relationship...
/r/MGTOW30/05/15 07:28 PM
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Cute that you assume that because I'm new to Reddit (almost called it Tumbrl, LOL) that I'm new to this conversation. ʘ‿ʘ Allow me to clear this up for you and anyone else spectating, so there is no doubt: I've been identifying as a man gone his own way since ~2012. Here's a forum post from August of 2012 where I mention being entertained by videos where MGTOWs tear into PUAs. That's me. Click the red skull in my signature and it will take you to my current Twitter account (3rd one after having …
/r/MGTOW30/05/15 06:55 PM
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It's a dangerous game, for sure, but not only was this woman very discreet, she was also the Queen of Liars (Extremely toxic, probably has borderline personality disorder. Glad she's out of the picture, though her pussy game was good). Never got caught (with me) in about 7 years, though some of her boyfriends had suspicions. ..
/r/MGTOW30/05/15 05:43 PM
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If it does, I doubt it's as much as a male that tells her senses that breeding with him will make her baybehs more likely to survive and breed a whole lot more.
/r/MGTOW30/05/15 05:38 PM
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No, alas it isn't. First time meeting a so-called "MGTOW" that isn't up to date on these things. To be expected with the influx of incels and marriage strikers, I suppose...
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 03:12 PM
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I also hate— Time to get over that, brother. You have a choice: Let go, or continue to be bothered by things that will never change. The root of suffering is attachment. ✌
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:21 PM
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Women want a man that gives her the gina tingles and a man that will financially provide for her. ...that was not a grammatical slip up on my part. Women will literally get these things from separate men if need be. Either way, I suggest that you still take my advice, or just go read The Rational Male's blog until you feel sated. As long as you don't get too hung up on his thinking that pussy is something that men must go after, you should be fine. The information he provides is still solid.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:17 PM
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Do a google search on "Dubai porta potties" to read about a lot of the disgusting shit these women do for money. I highly recommend that any man that hasn't killed his inner simp do this. Women are not pure, nurturing, magical creatures. They're duplicitous, morally pragmatic opportunist that will literally eat shit if the pay is good enough. ✌
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:09 PM
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Was gonna comment, but your comment covers a lot of it. A lot of these women (many younger than 18) travel over to be "war brides", getting impregnated by some "alpha" (these dudes get their pick based on their place in the hierarchy, so just how "alpha" the man impregnating her is will be dependent on how beautiful she is), and then return to whatever less-of-a-shit-hole European country they came from, where they most likely get taken care of by their parents and/or the state. There, they incu…
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:01 PM
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This seems like a question better suited for Ask The Red Pill I'm sure a few MGTOW, like myself, are more than competent to answer questions relating to dating, but this really isn't the place.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 01:49 PM
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No one's "trained" me to see "painted faces" as attractive. Objective beauty is a thing, and it is this objective beauty which women aim to enhance (or put on, period) by wearing makeup (among other things). Your examples? Ridiculous. Neck rings? Off color, probably-done-to-look-funny makeup? Yeah. Totally the same as what I'm talking about. If I had the option, I'd choose to never see a woman's face without at least some makeup on.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 01:43 PM
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I don't see why any MGTOW would care about this, though.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 01:41 PM
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A little embarrassing, but I actually meant to say Anatomy of Female Power, which is, oddly, no available in the sideline. I bought Manipulated Man recently but haven't gotten around to it yet.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 01:13 PM
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What's hilariously sad about the "return to traditional values/neomasculinity" guys is they believe views like this are only held by "Feminazis", or whatever the fuck. Or that you can use Game to sniff out a woman that wouldn't divorce you if you married, or to keep a woman from divorcing you. (These men have no imagination. They know about hypergamy, but they somehow miss the point that, even if you were the best man to be with, divorcing you and taking your house/money/etc, while giving you no…
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 05:56 AM
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One of my bestfriends is married and always tells the rest of the crew the same thing everytime he visits from out of town. "Don't get fucking married!" He owns a t-shirt of a bride and groom that says "GAME OVER". It's hilarious, in a way. Or, at least, that's how he copes with the misery. His idiot younger brother did not listen and went ahead and married some chick he doesn't even like that much recently. Quite insane...
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 03:14 AM
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Haha! That's what I would tell a former fuck buddy. Everytime she badgered me to marry her (a bit of a jump, since we weren't steady and she usually already had a boyfriend), I'd remind her that I would marry her as soon as she became a millionaire.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 03:11 AM
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LOL! Several of those chicks look like they crossed the line from "thick" to just plain fat about 20lbs ago!
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 03:02 AM
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No problem. There's a ton of good content out there, but I'd credit my real awakening to The Manipulated Man. Convenient that the PDF version of the book is linked on the side bar! It's a mus read, if you haven't already.
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:55 AM
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Call me a pessimist, but I believe men's thirst for women and women's approval will ensure that women never have to suffer like men have, like men still do. Anyhow, on the subject of women and their "masks", John the Other has done several videos on the subject of the "female chameleon", and they've gotten better now that he's accepted the reality of things and given up on men's rights activism. Deception is in women's nature. An adaptation that has been honed and sharpened over time, to the poi…
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:46 AM
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As an aesthete, I actually prefer that women wear enough or plenty of makeup. I used to think like OP once upon a time, but I remember when my thinking on this began to change. It happened upon seeing a series of pictures of porn stars before and after makeup. The truth: Most women are extremely unimpressive, even if they take care of themselves. If I must gaze at them, I'd much rather they hide their flaws and accentuate their strengths. Keep the goddamn mask on, because as far as I'm concerned…
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:22 AM
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Well....I would say I was a "MGTOW" before I knew about MGTOW. It could accurately be stated that I've chosen to identify as a MGTOW for ease of discussion, because a good portion of the things that concern most MGTOW is male sovereignty, from both societal gynocentrism and our own inborn gynocentrism. I am, however, getting the hint that your definition of MGTOW is more literal. As in, MGTOW is about men doing whatever the fuck they want...which is redundant. It could be argued that all men (mi…
/r/MGTOW29/05/15 02:06 AM
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And I believe that is correct. But, my point is that to make that a reason to become a MGTOW is contradictory. Antithetical.
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 06:31 AM
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The "vagina dentata". As the so-called "dissident" Feminist, Camille Paglia says: "Metaphorically, every vagina has secret teeth, for the male exits as less than when he entered. The basic mechanics of conception require action in the male but nothing more than passive receptivity in the female." Some take the adoption of this way of thinking as being "afraid" of vagina, but it is more of a realization. Acceptance. I think the thing that truly keeps men from being unplugged from the matrix (whic…
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 06:25 AM
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Some background on my own situation: I think only one of my friends knows about MGTOW, and that I am one, but everyone, from friends, to acquaintances, to co-workers, to family, knows that I think marriage is shit (the same with exclusive relationships and children). When the topic comes up I'm not at all shy about airing my total disinterest. So, you don't need to tell anyone about MGTOW (or that you are a man gone his own way) in order to spell these things out for them. Either way, you know y…
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 05:37 AM
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My thoughts on "MGTOW as attraction strategy" is that it's....oxymoronic. "I'm not gonna give a fuck about getting chicks so I can get chicks" says that you still very much give a fuck about getting chicks. (Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just don't claim to be something you're not.) For me, Game and MGTOW exist on separate planes, though they're often informed by the same knowledge base. Something to think about, sir.
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 04:58 AM
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Though a more apt analogy is to say that wives are jockeys and husbands are race horses. "Masculinity", in the traditional sense, is about performance. But think less "dancing monkey" and more race horse, because carrying her around is part of this performance...
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 04:52 AM
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Have you tried "no"? While you could fire off a list of logical reasons why you deem marriage a terrible choice for yourself (and all men who wish to retain as much of their autonomy as possible), the truth is that it won't make a lick of a difference. The reasons they're badgering you are not based on rationality or logic. So...yeah. I say go with the most succinct response possible, and feel no responsibility to explain yourself if you don't want to. (Some further questions, for possible discu…
/r/MGTOW28/05/15 04:45 AM
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I'm no fan of Sandman's pop MGTOW, but he's right on that point. Though I did not see the rebranding coming, a lot of the behavior that Roosh was exhibiting in the months prior to this screamed "I want to be plugged back into the Matrix!" I won't be surprised if the dude is married in the next year or so...
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