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Leykis 101. 25 years, it’s been…
/r/MensRights29/09/22 01:13 AM
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Everyone has their own method of grieving. The important thing is to remember that it is OK, even (possibly) necessary, to do so. 25 years ago, if someone had just told me to grieve, I would have channeled my despair, anger, sense of failure and lack of impulse control in much more healthy ways. But feel sad and get done with it, move on, and don’t duplicate your mistakes, or the mistakes of other men. I’m grateful for the communication channels available now. I fell into the gap between the clo…
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/22 02:31 AM
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Most of the interesting people have left Reddit, I spend less tha 20 min a day here now, as opposed to hour(s) in the past. I’m just here for boobs, memes, and some tech info, and the quality of all three is circling the drain.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 02:11 PM
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It’s the same kind of thinking, punishing / rewarding people for the actions of others generations in the past. The thinking is the point, not the specific issue.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 12:37 AM
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Struck me as the same lack of thinking that reparations for slavery is a good idea. Prolly same group of people.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 10:32 PM
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As you likely knew, it’s called due process. Things that shortcut the process, like red flag gun policies, are oftentimes able to be selectively applied to some people and not to others, leading to discrimination on the road to tyranny.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 04:38 PM
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I did read the sidebar. I am old. So very old. Money issues, lots or little, tends to cause a fair amount of marital discord. Traditional RP seems to advocate the “one pool” of money idea. Personally, I’ve had the “pool” both work, and not work. I agree on equal-ish discretionary funds regardless. Husband is traditional in provider instincts. Good. A couple things, though: He has to be careful that his identity and ego is not caught up in his job and income level. When something changes, sometim…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 04:13 PM
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I spend less and less time in Reddit. The surviving mens subs, the car/motorcycle subs, and boobs keep me showing up, but less time here than a few years ago.
/r/MensRights24/04/22 04:21 PM
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What do you want your life to look like in 20 years? Where do you need to be in 10 years to be halfway there? Where do you need to be in five years to make the 10 years goal? What do you need to do in the next five years to make the 10 years goal? What do you need to do this year? This month to make the year? Next week? Tomorrow? Make a plan, any plan. You will adjust your plan along the way based on your experiences. Plans take work. That is something that men are good at. In my experience, avo…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/22 03:01 PM
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I am 25 years gloriously divorced. You will never feel as free as you do now, and there is no better time to try it. You won’t see all the downsides until you experience it, but in my estimation, even living at a semi fixed location, you will find significant upsides you did not know exist. I take that first phrase back. If you’re doing it right, you will always feel free. And for me, no marriage, no cohabitation, no commitment (other than serial monogamy), and it has worked out very satisfactor…
/r/Divorce_Men17/04/22 02:25 PM
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So, reading the replies you already have a pickup, which simplifies your options. And already working. I’ll leave the 5th wheel / trailer debates for another time. My experience tells me to recommend a unit with solar (regardless of latitude) and more propane and battery capacity than you think you need. And insulation. I got something older, but better made, and while things still (always) need fixing, having good “bones” keeps it warmer / cooler / quieter. Find a layout that has good storage, …
/r/Divorce_Men17/04/22 02:11 AM
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Just remember, YOU are not the one who failed, here. There will be sadness and regret, you will get past it. Work on yourself, take care of your kids, and DO NOT SCRIMP, get the best lawyer you can find. Remember this feeling the next time you feel like cohabiting with a woman. Arms length, no cohabitation, no commitment…. I will commit to monogamy when involved, but I am a serial monogamist…. One after the other. The honeymoon period always ends, exploration stops, communication slows down, and…
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/22 11:57 PM
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Take pictures of him with the camera at hip level. Show him what he looks like. Maybe he will add some balance.
/r/RedPillWomen08/03/22 08:42 PM
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Men who are interested in content and discussions have largely followed their creators to whatever platform they moved to. For instance, better bachelor is on locals.com, for a subscription, which I found has been worth it. I have been spending less and less time here on Reddit, I almost didn’t see this post.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 03:35 PM
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Crazy how journalists are legal scholars at this subject, parsing the terms, but they can’t tell firearms apart, or acknowledge or explain digital privacy. They’re only able to get it “legally” right when it suits their agenda.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 04:40 PM
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Respectfully, can you refute his assertions with valid statistics and logic? Without anecdotal evidence and emotion? We ARE watching and listening to what he, and others, have been saying. I remain open to facts, history, and logic in any discussion, even ones where I’m uncomfortable and wrong.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/21 03:07 PM
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Somebody (God rest his soul) once said “Words mean things”. How is it that one side get to redefine, or expand the meaning of, words when it fits their agenda, but when it goes against their agenda we’re bound to “the legal definition”. Very curious.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 02:22 PM
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When I was involved, she did the inside of the house, I did the outside and the cars. Simple.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/21 10:00 PM
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You had me at “pull the trigger”, but then I continued reading… Spend your best effort locating and paying the best divorce attorney you can.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/21 08:01 PM
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Regular, restful, long sleep. Eat healthy food half of the time. Watch your drug intake. Exercise, even walking helps. Give your brain the best physical chance possible to recover. Get the best lawyer you can, and don’t compromise on anything. Make her fight for it. Make your lawyer work, minimize face-to-face time with her. Clear your mind of it when you work and exercise. Master that, then you can do it more of the time. Remember hobbies? Remember driving somewhere scenic in the car? Doesn’t h…
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/21 02:16 AM
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The drier it is, the better. Maybe it takes a couple seconds.. And truth. Must contain truth.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/21 01:58 AM
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I think it’s because you’re vaguely aware that you need better time management and are not progressing towards achievement. I know because I had that same feeling. A day off, a weekend, and sometimes (particularly if money’s tight) it feels like you’re just waiting around to go back to work. Decompressing and recreation are necessary, even critical. I know I can’t be active all the time during non-job time. For me, the trick was to have plans for your off time. A couple days before your day(s) o…
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 04:53 AM
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If she lives…
/r/Divorce_Men03/07/21 03:11 AM
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The thought that my parents would be sad if I pulled the trigger. I love them more than I loved myself. I’m better now.
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 02:22 PM
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Do a search on YouTube for the critical drinker. He is also an author, and successfully deconstructs the movies that deserve it.
/r/MGTOW14/06/21 03:42 AM
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And, you get more space in the room for furniture or ease of movement. Or a refrigerator…
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 03:57 PM
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The last time they asked me for money, I declined. Among other issues, this is why. I sent them an email to let them know. I’m sure they gave it all the consideration they felt it deserved.
/r/MGTOW219/05/21 03:06 AM
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When you spend your time listening and thinking, this gives you time to direct the conversation with direct, even pointed, open-ended questions. This does a few things: people are impressed and think you are interested in what they have to say (not always the case!) which helps your influence and stature with them, it reinforces earned leadership status, and if you use polysyllabic words correctly, modestly, and in context, establishes you as a thinker. Even so, a certain power and freedom comes…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/21 06:21 PM
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Honor is a big one. It encompasses being truthful, being a man of your word, having the character to do right when nobody’s watching, and the compassion to leave no man behind. I noticed this in westerns growing up. Something would happen, the men would look at each other, often without dialogue, and they would ride off to do the right thing. Sonny Crockett on Miami Vice had the same vibe, but he was cool enough to look slightly exasperated before taking action. As I grew older, I noticed my fat…
/r/MGTOW206/03/21 05:39 PM
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As Tom Leykis has said for 20 years, the solution for ED is YG - Young Girls...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/21 12:41 AM
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1995ish, listening to Tom Leykis on the radio. Man, I was twenties with a head full of mush, but it was a good start. He introduced me to (small “l”) libertarianism, financial clarity, and what a waste of effort relationships with women were. Amazing, after growing up in the eighties.
/r/MGTOW221/02/21 03:35 AM
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And simp-y popular music as well...
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 10:11 PM
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He may have had a wicked sense of irony. Imagine being the ex-wife showing it off to people, when they know she had nothing to do with earning it.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 07:14 PM
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Faith is a personal connection between you and your deity(ies?), religion is of man, and imperfect. As a recovering Catholic, I have lost my religion but retained most of my faith. It seems to work for me.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 05:50 PM
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I am a fan of lists. I have a long list. All of the tasks have dates, some of them have times. The more advanced people coordinate with a calendar. Before I go to sleep, I set up my next day. At the beginning, I actually listed nontask things. Get up. Hygiene. Coffee. Do task one. Do task two. Finish task three before lunch. I laid out my whole day, including meals and fun and work outs. Eliminate the thinking / dithering. Prioritize at night when doing ur list for tomorrow. You’ve been thinking…
/r/MGTOW229/12/20 08:06 PM
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Asking for help with something is different than asking for leadership. In my opinion, a masculine man appreciates a competent, efficient, hard-working woman. A “masculine” man may find his ego challenged, and an inherently masculine man will get an internal twitch and look at you more closely. In this vein, some men have natural inherent masculinity very early, some men need life experience in order to develop it. Unfortunately, some men never develop it. For red pill people, this means that so…
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/20 05:53 PM
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This comment needs to be higher. As usual, all it takes is money. A few years back I had an accident that left me permanently using walking aids. I was fortunate fortunate to have friends and family help out with the fetch-and- carry things, clothes, retrieving the iPad and phone, and transportation home after a seven week hospital stay. Situation like that, by yourself, would just take money. Keep nine months in the bank of living expenses. Buy disability insurance. Have a credit card available…
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 06:27 PM
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I expect a full rainbow of tax forms. I also expect to identify as the least taxed identity.
/r/MensRights14/12/20 04:34 PM
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You put it for more politely than I would have. This comment is too far down.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/20 11:12 PM
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“Obviously as I do want a family someday”... Work on yourself for a few years, then ask yourself if you want this kind of slavery… Much less risky and cheaper to borrow your nieces and nephews for fun and games.
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 07:15 PM
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This entry, and others, showed such a slant that I quit donating a couple years ago. I emailed my reasoning to whatever black hole address was being used at the time. It’s just sad.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 06:27 AM
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And men will be blamed for the suicides, and become a source of consternation with women’s groups and politicians....
/r/MGTOW30/10/20 01:36 AM
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“What you order may determine if there’s a second date”.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/10/20 05:12 AM
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You can cultivate an interest in people and how they think, because it does benefit you. Once you can evaluate how somebody thinks from a casual interaction, you can then influence or manipulate them. This is a direct benefit to you.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/20 12:22 AM
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I think there is general agreement on what “alpha” means, but there is flexibility in what is considered to be “masculine”. Masculine traits worth of discussion: Self-sufficiency in monetary matters, self-sufficiency in emotional matters, self-sufficiency in collecting resources, and self-sufficiency in personal defense. I think being masculine is about inviolably having personal responsibility. You are responsible for having all of the above. You are, however, not responsible for sharing it wit…
/r/MGTOW216/10/20 06:44 PM
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I never give any females, including those in my family, that kind of personal information anymore. Family or not, women use information to hurt you.
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 01:01 AM
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Seriously. Doesn’t mean you can’t move on from your work and start banging your old CSR like a big bass drum. Just saying.
/r/MGTOW29/09/20 04:42 PM
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I encourage oral containment, because then everything else stays cleaner. Even have that line work once or twice. Particularly in the car.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 11:08 PM
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Don’t hate be a man. Hating yourself lets them win. This is not acceptable. Find the appropriate level of red pilled information (from r/FeminismStopsWhen to r/JordanPeterson to r/MensRights to r/Pussypassdenied to r/TheRedPill to r/Whereareallthegoodmen to r/MGTOW2 to r/nicegirls to r/ r/MGTOW) and learn to enhance your sense of self-worth, develop yourself, find your purpose and work to achieve your goals, and tune out those things that would deny you greatness. Remember, the opposite of hate …
/r/FeminismStopsWhen09/09/20 04:21 PM
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You are not too young. You are too valuable to waste on fruitless pursuits of women. Do not judge whether or not you are a loser based on success with girls. That is a yardstick that you should break into into pieces and burn. Your life is not a joke. You are young; determine your goals, and seize your destiny. Put your work and focus into achievement. Happiness comes from within. When you are young, you experience happiness. When you are older, you experience contentment. Do not screw this up b…
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 02:52 AM
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A free society allows people to make bad decisions and fail. A free society also allows people with character to recover, and with hard work, be successful. Once you start legislating from on high about peoples‘ best interest, you remove their agency and free will. I would rather that not happen.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/20 02:17 AM
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Option 1. You are NOBODIES emotional tampon. I know the hormones are still raging, it will be easier after 35. The more you tell somebody else about yourself, the more ammunition you give them to hurt you. Especially girls/women. Especially practice this in the workplace. It is OK to have male acquaintances, but choose your friends carefully. It is OK to have male acquaintances, but choose your friends carefully. Trust is earned over time.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 04:12 PM
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Tom Leykis always said the the cure for ED was YG.
/r/MGTOW27/08/20 10:56 AM
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Beware the wrath of a patient man.
/r/MensRights27/08/20 02:18 AM
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Those events really are hard to deal with, you are moving through the stages of grief. That’s normal. But, you need to move through it. You cannot stay static in your life situation. You need to find someway to move. Perhaps it is moving forward in your work, or profession. Find a way to improve your work skills, your education, and make yourself more valuable to advancement in your field. Perhaps it is moving forward physically. Spend some free time pursuing a physical activity that you enjoy, …
/r/MGTOW26/08/20 07:22 PM
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Somebody say something? Kidding
/r/MGTOW25/08/20 02:54 PM
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“It’s nice you like it.”
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 05:56 PM
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Enough different kinds of men are going enough different separate ways, any sort of regimented chart is going to look like the religions after Abraham. It will be difficult enough quantify, although broad generalities will be able to be drawn. I think Dalrock’s WordPress site is still up. I would have a peek at that if I were you.
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 06:29 PM
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Yah, you screwed that up. Just take this lesson to the next workplace. It takes some boundary setting, but it is possible to be friendly and engaging without coworkers knowing anything about my life. Better for everyone.
/r/MGTOW08/08/20 08:29 PM
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I don’t talk to other people about how I live, they can see it. I’m a private person, nobody knows where I live, everybody sees the old car I drive, nobody knows if I have kids or not (other than family). I dress reasonably well, and smoke cigarettes. I am old, and I can count the number of real friends I have on one hand, and the number of family I care about on the other. Passerby, coworkers, and acquaintances can draw their own conclusions. It’s easy not to talk about yourself, just ask someb…
/r/MGTOW206/08/20 08:37 AM
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My comments seem to post fine. My up votes on anything don’t seem to be permanent.
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 07:11 PM
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After 28 years old, the older I got, the smarter my dad got. Weird.
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 05:13 PM
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Nothing I upvote seems to stick, so I’m safe.
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 09:59 PM
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Acceptance will come through time. Direct your focus inward towards accepting yourself who you are, and self improvement. Be aware that your biology is going to fight you until you are almost 30. Did you just get out of high school? This is a particularly confusing and aimless time in your life, unless you decide on your purpose. You have to have a purpose. This will involve work and self improvement. You will take your gratification with your life through your achievements and success. Go back …
/r/MGTOW228/07/20 07:14 PM
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… Where their vocabulary overmatches their intelligence…. And if you’re reasonably arudite (as I like to think I am) the slight errors in grammar (let alone logic) are amusing and make me smirk...
/r/MGTOW211/07/20 05:13 PM
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Go back and read the posts on this sub going back months or years. There you will find quantifiable numbers and statistics from valid sources that relationships, cohabitation, and marriage is simply too big of a risk for a man. Do a search for Dalrock and read his old WordPress stuff. He’s a tradcon, but he has good statistics. The comment sections are literate also. You say you don’t know what to think. Absorb real world, valid information, and leave your feelings out of it. What you will find …
/r/MGTOW206/07/20 07:19 PM
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I gave extraneous information, I wanted to clear up that a belief in God is optional, and one can certainly Go Your Own Way with, or without God.
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 02:14 AM
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God grants us agency to believe, or not. I believe, but I’m not fervent about it. The Christian core of beliefs is about treating each other decently. Men, and religion, have made it about power and control, and I noped out of that early as an adult. I describe myself as a recovering Catholic. My religion has left me but my faith remains, and it helps me nudge my moral compass back to North if I decide to think about it. It’s my choice to listen, or not. So far it’s kept me out of prison. It’s a…
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 01:15 AM
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For me, this was especially true in the workplace. I since learned years ago never to give anybody in my workplace any personal information about what I did when I was not at work. It became very simple: I can’t do that. End of story.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre30/06/20 12:48 AM
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It comes with age and time. In my opinion, you are upset at injustice, and we can only fight injustice by operating within our own circle of influence. For me, this means voting, developing friendships slowly with other quality men, and protecting myself. I tend to distance myself from everything else.
/r/MGTOW230/06/20 12:39 AM
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This, and other virtue signaling in the last couple years, is why I have not donated to them as I have in the preceding years. I let them know this every time they ask.
/r/MensRights28/06/20 06:20 PM
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Wait it out. It gets a lot easier after you’re 28 and see your friends ruined. Also, realize that reasoning by emotion is something that a woman does, men do not. The more emotionally vulnerable you are, the more you leave yourself open to maltreatment by both men and women. Protect yourself.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 04:21 PM
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I am never worried about coming across as rude, if I refuse to answer a rude, personal question. The people who consider me “rude” are largely people who have left my personal life. Fine with me. On the professional side, or if you somehow don’t want to appear “rude”, I’m pretty good at deflecting invasive questions with non-answers and redirection. In your SIL case, I might’ve smiled and answered “in the morning”, then asked “what about you?” I could care less what time she starts work, or if s…
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 03:00 PM
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One can be raised with the familial and societal expectation of always allowing behavior from family that would be unacceptable from anyone else. Examples are: prying into personal business, including medical issues, religious / faith issues, having the expectation of “borrowing” money (ha!) or vehicles, digging into your marital relationship (if married), or having pressure brought to bear to house relations that refuse to be self-sufficient. The last would include parent(s) that have refused t…
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 02:47 PM
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As in, the less information people have about you, the less ammunition they have to verbally try to shame or hurt you. Ultimately, this does result in associating with fewer people, but young people seem to like to have a lot of acquaintances. Us old farts just prefer two or three quality people.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 02:39 AM
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You don’t have to make people understand anything. Professionally, you just have to demonstrate your worth. Personally, the less people know about you, the less they can hurt you. Be an enigma. Give vague answers. Do not be cornered in conversation, instead, get them talking about themselves, that’s what they really want anyway. In the end, it’s just better to avoid associating with such people in the first place. Remember, family can be the most corrosive to you and your life, treat them just l…
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 01:24 AM
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Mine was largely painless. I did have a question though, when I was watching the scope and started seeing daylight and my back teeth.…
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 01:45 AM
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I’m just subbed there for the giggles, but there has been less and less worth opening up over the last couple years.
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 03:46 PM
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Time management. Schedule your time. Time to work, time to sleep, time to play. Men tend to work hard anyway. When you plan your playtime, it can become more fulfilling, memorable, and active.
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 02:53 PM
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You’ve started to figure it out with leaving r/foreveralone… Watch what you put in your head. Avoid simp-y music, such as R&B, some hip-hop, 70s and 80s love songs, country, you get the idea. Avoid movies, TV, and videogames that do not show a strong, smart, male protagonist. Read nonfiction. Focus on your personal fitness goals. Focus on your professional goals. Get your living situation and your financial house in order, and prepare for future expenses by accumulating money, to avoid going int…
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 06:01 PM
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Dune, when I was 12. It made me quit taking people literally and from then on, I learned to not instantly believe what anybody told me, and to question their motives. For people I saw often, or every day, it helped me observe and remember how they thought, and what drove them. Not revelatory, but you asked.
/r/MGTOW221/06/20 05:17 PM
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I’m very late 40s. I would kill several people to be where you are right now. First thing I would do, is go back and read the posts in this forum back several months. Second thing I would do, do a web search for Dalrock and read his stuff. He is very fact – based and academic and, dare I say, influential in the early manosphere. If you like money, I would avoid relationships. There are many men like me who could’ve saved hundreds of thousands of dollars and decades of time by strictly focusing o…
/r/MGTOW220/06/20 11:34 PM
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r/coltish
/r/MGTOW20/06/20 09:22 PM
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Good point. I also advise people to watch the music that they listen to, avoiding simp-y country, R&B, Motown, hip-hop, pop music. I moved to 70s rock, jazz, classical, and big pipe organ music. Have to watch the messages being put in your brain.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 04:25 PM
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I think all the NAWALTs are over 65 by now.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 04:20 PM
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Mr. T pities those fools...
/r/MGTOW216/06/20 05:12 AM
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They may not be thinking about the first divorce, but after the first divorce, they are definitely thinking about the second and third divorces.
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 03:48 PM
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So, the starting lineup of a basketball team. At least, that’s what came to my mind.
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 03:34 PM
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It will be fun for them when he dies. And he will have to die, I’m sure he can’t afford to retire.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 07:36 PM
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I grew up in the late 70s and early 80s, had that fear mongering environmental agenda shoved down my throat at school. I enjoyed seeing the Clintons get their climate change agenda trampled, and at this point, I just don’t care. I’m going to die soon.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 03:03 AM
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I used to use a technique: if I wouldn’t do it for an ugly man, I won’t do it for a pretty woman. 25 years of red pills sliding into MGTOW, I now do things for ugly men that I won’t do for pretty women. That sounded more gay than I meant. You get the idea. Reading up on psychology and being aware of innate bias, as well as debate and argument techniques, has really served me well.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 03:33 PM
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My ex-friends miss it. I no longer help people move, drive the truck, and move the piano by myself. Screw that. I’m not helping you fix your car, or your house, when you offer no return favors of any kind, or are “busy” when I ask. I am not an ATM or a utility. I am building castle Jack, and am Emperor of my domain. I associate only with people who are running the same speed and direction as I am.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 12:55 AM
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My only unicorn exception is my mother, too. I think the youngest unicorns are now over 60.
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 04:19 PM
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I’m allowed the double-roast, the first being free, the second when I tell them I’m 24 years gloriously divorced. I tried it and it sucked. I tell them if their life sucks, I recommend divorce - the proven freedom technique! Otherwise STFU.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 02:09 AM
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Part of my MGTOW philosophy is not caring to prove a point to society. I reduce my exposure to negatively. Society (whether MGTOW or not, in my opinion) is largely negative. I choose the good bits to participate in, leave the rest, and simply don’t care. If I allow somebody/something to push me into negativity, that gives them power or influence over my emotions and mindset, and I will not allow that.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 01:59 AM
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Regarding your final question, if you read more posts in the sub Reddit, you will find your answer. It sounds like it’s time to be independent from your parents, emotionally, financially, and geographically. u/westnblue has the best answer when they ask you about dating.
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 01:39 AM
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Dalrock is still up, for now. Better grab what you want. https://dalrock.wordpress.com/author/dalrock/ For those unfamiliar, a literate, statistics-based analysis of some things MGTOW. It’s worth a cruise by before it’s gone.
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 07:28 AM
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If more cucked subs did this, it would just save me time. I don’t attach anything of value to my Reddit account or much of what I read here anyway.
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 05:07 PM
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Catching on, but the best thing is, we are communicating with each other, finally. Best of all, with increased social communication, we are breaching age gaps. Young men can finally listen to old men on the Internet, and old men are not afraid to share.
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 05:55 PM
2

At this point I don’t take any of Reddit seriously. I’m just here for the luls. There’s only a couple of subreddits here where people say anything of worth.
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 07:15 PM
2

Break your lease and get out. She is going to affect your mental health.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 06:55 PM
3

You are not responsible for the care and feeding and growth of other people. The idea is to meet people where you already are, or better, not being responsible for cleaning up messes.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 06:54 PM
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I, too, am a recovering Catholic. I have found that it is OK for me to keep my faith, and lose my religion. Religion is made by imperfect people, faith is between you and your God.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 06:52 PM
2

I wear my old wedding ring.
/r/MGTOW218/05/20 08:43 PM
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You can get yourself back on track. I am a fan of lists. Not everything it’s crossed off right away, but it is a good thought exercise and helps me focus. Make a list of what needs to happen, prioritize it, and throw effort and time at it. Fix your identity. Get your birth certificate, your Social Security card, and your passport. And, I guess, your drivers license. Get a post office box at an actual post office. I have had to post office box is my entire adult life, they are good for everything…
/r/MGTOW215/05/20 04:55 AM
1

He’s got a ways to go until he gets that old – man bus driving bitch slap power.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/05/20 12:46 PM
1

I would not say that this is the rule, and that there is a variety of responses to history, but man, my personally observed anecdata bears this out. I was certainly happy to exploit it 20 years ago.
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 04:42 PM
5

Facts, logic, and evidence. If I’m having a discussion with people whose opinions actually matter to me, I will ask for these, and use these. I don’t discuss anything with people whose opinions don’t matter to me. Wasted air.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 04:44 PM
2

Don’t you yourself forget, that they will remember this forever.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 04:42 PM
1

I don’t think low IQ for you is a reality. You seem to have a reasonable sense of self – actualization, which is an excellent start. I am an introvert, who had to learn to pretend to be an extrovert due to the type of jobs I had. Banter, let alone flirting, it’s just something that takes practice. I had an advantage because I like to think that I have a reasonable command of English and a whimsical (if dry) sense of humor. Tips: Practice in small steps. Keep the conversation about subjects not a…
/r/MGTOW202/05/20 06:49 PM
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I’d rather split a two bedroom with a dude.
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 11:48 PM
2

I think that is a very large percentage, but some still hang around to dispense wisdom. Kudos to them.
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 04:06 AM
1

Getting older helps. Watch your influence and what you put in your brain. For me, I had to cut off some music- Motown, R&B, simpy 70’s and 80’s love songs, and most country. I went to classical, jazz, and big-organ music. Cutoff the media that is negatively portrays men - narcissistic men-children, hapless, clueless dad/husband characters, and other whining men caricatures. It helps to move to creation instead of consumption. Lose the tv/streaming and read some nonfiction. For me, nearly anythin…
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 03:43 AM
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To me, it is a two – pronged meat fork. If you remove feelings and sex from relationships/dealings/friendships with a woman, what else does she bring? Is it possible to have a conversation about something that interests you that does not deal with feelings or sex? Once you insert these qualifiers into your thinking, it turns out to be a small pool of women. The other time on the fork is your resources – your time, intellect and money. These are things not to be squandered when you have your 20s …
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 06:23 PM
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I’m not going to let anybody make me feel inadequate. I’m not going to let anybody make me feel sad. I’m not going to let anybody disappoint me. I’m not going to let anybody make me mad. I have the control. Others have nothing over me.
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 04:24 PM
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If I’m here, I have already made the decision not to date, or cohabitate, get married, or become emotionally involved. I think there are other forums for these types of questions. I would prefer not to see them here, but I am not in charge. I will vote accordingly.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 05:24 PM
2

I keep a Windows game box on its own network, games are all it sees. Don’t even surf internet.
/r/MGTOW22/04/20 04:51 AM
5

To quote Indiana Jones – “it’s not the years, it’s the mileage“. You have to determine the purpose of your writing. Who is your audience? It is possible that in writing down your concepts, you can get them to coalesce in a way that you had not thought of before. It is possible that you may not break any new theological or philosophical ground. This is OK because the writing should serve you first, then others. It is difficult to evangelize in general, IMO the best approach is a linear, reasoned …
/r/MGTOW219/04/20 10:56 PM
1

Consider launching a ship (FIRE) rather than buying a house. For some, mobility is a consideration. Financial Independence Retire Early.
/r/MGTOW219/04/20 06:13 PM
1

Very late 40s.
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 03:58 PM
1

You begin with yourself. I’ve read a couple of your replies. Look at your life from above, like it is not your own, like standing up two stories looking looking down at yourself. What do you see? I might see somebody spending the best hours of the best days of the best years of their life not fully maximizing their time. I have done that – I have tread water, going nowhere, achieving nothing, barely barely keeping my head above water. I am in my very late 40s. I tell the young people that I work…
/r/MGTOW216/04/20 05:39 AM
1

Oh God I wish I’d been taught this in the eighties.
/r/MGTOW215/04/20 06:03 PM
1

I think only EMOTIONALLY IMMATURE men have problems with confident women. It is possible for a man to be emotionally mature and not have confidence, or have an lesser level of confidence as a given women. In my near-half century of experience, this kind of man is not attracted to this given woman for other reasons, not from a lack of confidence. I have seen successful relationships where the man is “less successful” or “less confident” than his partner but it works because somewhere in their rel…
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/20 07:15 PM
3

I’ve gotten so I just fast forward her scenes.
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 07:19 PM
2

Samir Bannout... now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long, long time... Doesn’t matter if you’re low value or higher value to others, just matters that you are high value TO YOURSELF. And when your confidence settles in, do not anybody inside enough to negatively change you. Remain centered on who you are, and where you want to go. Some people in you life may go in your direction with you for a while, just make sure you’re reaching your own goals.
/r/MGTOW226/03/20 05:35 PM
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I am late 40s, but I would expect anybody 40 or older to have experienced this problem. Particularly if they were not tech savvy early in life.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre18/03/20 04:53 PM
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Not being liked gets easier the older you get. After a while, you figure out not to let anybody know you, so that they cannot dislike you. Easier. High schools have a lot in common with prisons, and that you were forced to be there, with people you would not ordinarily choose to be around. Just wait it out.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 12:20 AM
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This is fair, and after a fair amount of consideration, agreeable. Maybe put some attribution for yourself on the image, some if us save images that are useful.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/20 02:53 PM
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If I am uncertain about whether somebody respects or trusts me, they are an acquaintance, not a friend. In this instance, friends are supposed to be complementary, not competitive or neurotic. The friendship should be balanced both ways. And, from an old guy, people you know at work are never friends, only acquaintances. People at work who know your personal situation can only hurt you, never help you. Including managers. Keep an iron wall in between personal and work life. It is OK to keep and …
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 02:45 PM
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Scientists stand on the shoulders of other giants in the field. MGTOW stand on the shoulders, and sometimes bodies, of other men. If I would’ve had more information at 18, I would’ve used my brain more than my penis and been so much happier and farther along by now.
/r/MGTOW209/03/20 04:48 PM
4

I’m 5’6” and when I dated decades ago taller was common for me, but I am built like a fireplug with shoulders and had a bad attitude with quick hands.
/r/MGTOW209/03/20 02:17 AM
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My mother is the reason I used to believe NAWALT exists. Too bad I had to waste 25 years and several relationships and a bad marriage to figure out there is only AWALT now. She’s married over 40 years and they are both still very happy. A different generation.
/r/MGTOW205/03/20 07:44 PM
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2 things: Don’t ever bring up vulnerable items in a argument. Don’t ever talk about vulnerable items to another person, it stays in the relationship. These are why men have learned not to share. My opinion and experience.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/20 04:13 PM
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Your soul will deaden overtime. Depending on exposure, I killed off my remaining bits of empathy at 32 years old. I don’t miss it. Clarity. The opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference.
/r/MGTOW02/03/20 04:01 PM
3

Wikipedia’s editing choices for certain subjects let me not to donate this year. I emailed them my sentiment during their funding drive.
/r/MGTOW28/02/20 05:23 AM
3

For me, Tom Leykis and blogger Dalrock.
/r/MGTOW27/02/20 07:49 AM
7

Women already know how much of a bitch she is. Man who can’t see how much of a bitch she is haven’t learned their lesson yet.
/r/MGTOW224/02/20 04:55 PM
12

The opposite of love is indifference, not hate. To follow this way of thinking, it couldn't matter less to you what her opinion is or reaction is.
/r/MGTOW224/02/20 04:54 PM
2

I’ve rarely had a philosophical problem about doing anything alone. The thing I fear is imprisonment. Imprisoned by the state, imprisoned by my choices… I’m not going to be imprisoned by my weakened body. As a further measure of my right to self determination, I keep tools nearby to end my suffering. It is my choice, my body.
/r/MGTOW221/02/20 12:46 AM
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I wish I had a cite for you, but a Some time ago JP walked back his opinion of MGTOWers a little bit, after he learned more about it. I agree that he is still too much of a tradcon, but he is still one of the most literate, effective refutors of feminism, identity politics, and neoliberals. To me, this makes him more of a good guy than a bad guy.
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 02:16 AM
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Thank God you learned at 20 instead of 40.
/r/MGTOW219/02/20 01:55 AM
8

I think the quality of the posts on here have improved since the quarantine. I think the men that need to be on here, are still able to find it successfully.
/r/MGTOW17/02/20 02:40 AM
0

I’ve been using “I’m sorry you’re upset” for years. Now, mercifully, I don’t have to use that at all.
/r/MGTOW215/02/20 07:35 PM
7

Enjoy the quiet moments working on the bike. So peaceful.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 09:10 PM
6

The sooner you can learn from the mistakes of others, the easier your life will be. I tried to make it sound less jerk-ish, I just want you to have peace and make your own good luck.
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 10:10 AM
1

Just because you have a phone, doesn’t mean it needs to be on.
/r/MGTOW211/02/20 08:54 PM
2

I grew up with 70s and 80s pop music, and if that wasn’t simp-y enough, also loved Motown. Bread, Dan Folgelburg, America, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Journey... at least the Steely Dan has stuck with me. I didn’t stand a chance. Now it’s jazz, pre-1990 country, or pipe organ music. And Steely Dan....
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 08:08 AM
1

I don’t know about the word “demise”. The signal-to-noise has gotten better in here since.
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 11:12 PM
1

I remember that. Good times.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 10:40 PM
5

I’m ready for the full story. Hit me.
/r/MGTOW225/01/20 12:51 AM
5

Money will give you choices. Put together a pile of money, and along the way I would bet your goals will solidify so that at the end, you will get what you have visualized.
/r/MGTOW222/01/20 05:10 PM
3

When I worked a job that had quantifiable results, I kept track of the results. For instance, in my debt collection job, I kept track of the revenue, and the percentage of people that I brought more current. It was kind of a complicated formula, but I was able to quantify myself against other people, and that made it useful In the event I needed to put something on the resume.
/r/MGTOW217/01/20 11:23 PM
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From your lack of responses from gay men, it seems that they are likely going their own way without the benefit of this forum. If I had to speculate, it would be because their internal dialogue and reasoning is different from heterosexual males from a very, very young age. Partial source: Watching my much younger brother grow up, now he’s middle aged.
/r/MGTOW212/01/20 07:53 PM
2

You have incredible advice already on this thread. First priority would be to get your mental health figured out (shout out u/unmasteredman). Find out what techniques work for you to control your emotions, and work on being consistently outwardly placid. Never let people know what you are thinking. Remember that we give people control over us when we allow to them to influence our emotions. I will not be controlled or manipulated. Neither should you. Second priority is 20 year plan. Where and wh…
/r/MGTOW208/01/20 04:52 PM
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Love me the Dalrock. It is time well spent to cruise thru all of his posts you can find.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre03/01/20 08:39 PM
5

I think it’s different from person to person. I’m seven years away from the senior menu myself, and I can’t see it. My last casual relationship was 16 years younger than me.
/r/MGTOW02/01/20 12:36 AM
3

Yeah, I am confused, I thought women spent the majority of the money in the USA?
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/19 08:34 PM
3

I, too, read them for amusement and a heightened sense of well-being.
/r/MGTOW26/12/19 04:18 AM
2

What was the line? A man writes a woman like a man, removing reason and accountability? I was in the room when the movie was playing, wasn’t actually watching it.
/r/MGTOW25/12/19 07:24 PM
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I have heard it said that the opposite of love is indifference, not hate. That is the route I prefer, but I am old. Also, bear in mind that anyone who provokes an emotional reaction within you retains control of you. I will not be controlled. It would be my suggestion to eliminate all thinking of your past, and focus only instead only on your future, and the prosperity, success, and contentment to follow. Sieze 2020.
/r/MGTOW25/12/19 07:16 PM
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Merry Christmas to you, and all solitary men. Particularly those like me who get grouchy the day after Halloween when merchants greedily start playing Christmas music. (Or so I hear they do. Haven’t shopped in years, still grouchy.) It will soon be over, and we can take a second to reset, and seize the new year by the throat and work to make our lives a shining example of success, achievement, fulfillment, prosperity, and continuing contentment, if only to those of us who know whom to look for, …
/r/MGTOW225/12/19 02:11 AM
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I think the perception is cracking in a more widespread fashion, and at an accelerated rate. As more generations continue to witness and experience personally the downfall of marriage, their kids catch on. I am a Gen-X’er, my parents have (and continue to have) a successful marriage, so I tried it at 24. Mistake. Learned my lesson. If I had had sons (or I guess any children) they might have learned from this. I think the statistics that we are showing now for following generations demonstrate th…
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 07:55 PM
3

You were right to separate the addictions into porn and masturbation. I don’t think there is anything wrong with masturbation spiritually, ethically, morally, or in moderation, physically. Maybe try to keep it to four times a week? One can develop in sensitivity and urology issues by going to excess. I think there is a balance between masturbation and keeping your motivation and drive for other things alive. Porn, however is another matter. I am too old to have committed the articles I have read…
/r/MGTOW221/12/19 03:07 AM
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It will get much, much easier after you pass 30. Even easier than that after 40. In my opinion, what you are feeling is a form of needing outside validation. Lurk in this sub long enough and you’ll find out why this is a bad idea. Focus, instead, on doing what you want, and self improvement. It sounds like you don’t know what you want to do. Figure that out, and expend effort in becoming an expert. If you are working towards a goal, you will spend less time running around your head in circles.
/r/MGTOW219/12/19 09:20 PM
4

Pro tips in the comments. Love this sub.
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 06:33 PM
5

Depends on the home situation. After my divorce I moved back in, and I slept there and managed to eat a couple meals there, but I was working 40+ hours, working out, hanging out with friends, and riding my motorcycle. I was almost never there to be in the way. I was not smart enough to focus on saving money like I should have, but I did a little. Don’t move out if you have debt or a car payment. Kill off that crap and put several thousand dollars together for emergencies and if you want to go wi…
/r/MGTOW217/12/19 08:46 PM
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Stay strong in your convictions. It will get immeasurably easier after you turn 35. You live your life right, retire before 50. I’m late 40s. But what I have noticed is, the denser the people are living together, the worst they behave. I don’t know what the right density, the optimal density for persons living, but most urban areas seem to be a virtue less toilet instead of the fabled shining city on the hill. These kind of living situations also seem to foster the mentality that it is OK to poi…
/r/MGTOW216/12/19 06:00 PM
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The goal is 6 to 9 months of expenses in the bank. For me, at least. I do still wear my old wedding ring for interviews. I’m tricky.
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 01:23 AM
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Being asexual is just a part of who you are, right? I’m sensing enough maturity from you that I know you realize that MGTOW is a loose collection of principles, a mind buffet, where you take the useful and applicable information presented and implement it in your life to tremendous positive effect. This effect may not even be noticeable to those around you (and it doesn’t matter anyway) but the critical thing is that you find contentment, inner peace, and satisfaction with your life. I lurk far …
/r/MGTOW215/12/19 06:30 PM
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Roots are overrated. For men on a course of self improvement, it is a moving journey. Relish instead the reality of being mobile enough to move for self fulfillment and wealth generation. Speaking of wealth generation, simplifying your life to build it is anathema with roots. Build a ship, not a tree.
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 03:13 AM
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I don’t know that I would go as far as saying that all self-help books promise success without hard work. Sometimes that hard work is on yourself, to improve yourself. I know that for me, Improving myself is much harder than doing whatever job I’m doing. The other angle I wish I would have observed earlier in life, is that to a personal degree, you are taking the authors experience and borrowing a page from science, “standing on the shoulders of giants...”. I don’t know exactly how the saying go…
/r/MGTOW214/12/19 08:50 PM
5

So many of these leave me with an impression of a subliminal cry for help, With a dollop of self-loathing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/19 10:39 PM
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Perhaps metaphorically, not literally. Heh. “Fuck you” is an attitude sometimes. (Sorry, I project too much.)
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 05:15 PM
1

Religions are imperfect because they consist of people, in my opinion. The Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christian, Islamic) tie themselves to God theologically speaking, and I think they have their uses, but they have been twisted so that they serve themselves. It’s going to be interesting to see who is right when I die. Or, if we’re all wrong...
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 11:02 PM
2

There are those of us who have left our religion, but kept our faith. Apparently, I can’t be bothered to follow anything that is remotely organized.
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 05:26 PM
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Do you have any income? How many months left on the lease? Make a copy of the lease you signed (or get one from the management company) and keep it in a safe place outside the house (safe deposit box, storage unit, ?) This will prove the right to residency. I would also remove anything precious to you from the house. What to look out for are problems created by Grandmother or sister calling the police for abuse, neglect, or other false accusations. If you get involved with the law, even if innoc…
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 10:32 PM
1

I don’t understand what your objective is. I bought my own domain, say skell.net, and bought the 1st tier Protonmail, so I can have up to 5 emails hosted there using my domain. For instance, [email protected], [email protected], and so on. This way, when you own your own domain ($12? / yr) you can buy email hosting wherever you want. And, you can change email hosting without having to change ur emails - just redirect to new hosting service.
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 09:50 AM
4

Coping with stress becomes easier with age and experience. Also, recognize argumentative techniques such as moving the goalposts, gaslighting, and so on. Be able to deconstruct the techniques of somebody’s argument or discussion, and the resulting gaps in logic and reason, and you will not become mentally overwhelmed. It’s easier with practice. Alongside this, look at the techniques of bullying. Unwanted physical contact, invasion of personal space, personal put-downs, interruptions / talking ov…
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 10:34 PM
5

Unchecked anger without self introspection will burn anyone up. With self introspection, one can discern the source and cause of the anger, and change one’s circumstances to remove or minimize the cause. If one is really talented, when can use the anger as a motivational tool to sear the experience into memory, and use it to change one’s circumstances. For instance, if someone or or something causes me to waste (or lose) time, money, or effort, I can have an emotional reaction (anger, disappoint…
/r/MGTOW218/11/19 03:46 PM
3

Don’t date. Back when words used to mean things, dating meant courting, courting meant evaluation of suitability for marriage. Never marry or cohabitate. You are not going to know who you are until you are 35, at least. Some women never know who they are. You are starting to find out that female relationships, and some men’s friendships, are a drag on your time, money, and ambition. Make male friends slowly, with good boundaries, and they have a tendency to last (until they get mixed up with a w…
/r/MGTOW04/11/19 07:58 PM
1

Pleasant and nice, and do nice things, but with very strict, public boundaries. With no exceptions. Some days, my boundaries are pretty far off.
/r/MGTOW201/11/19 10:55 PM
2

Travel light, travel far, travel fast. One of the mistakes I made when I was your age was letting myself be weighed down by stuff. Stuff is for later. You’re 20s are for experiences. If it’s cold where you are, travel south. Before you leave the house-secure your identity. Passports, bank accounts, anything that you are involved in - credit reports? It doesn’t sound like you’re in the United States. I have had a post office box and a message number my whole life. I’m 48. Clear the environment, c…
/r/MGTOW226/10/19 06:53 PM
1

There has been more than one study that shows that women prefer shopping to sex.
/r/MGTOW225/10/19 10:39 PM
4

Great idea. Funny! Until you go in to a liquor store with narrow aisles.
/r/MGTOW22/10/19 03:54 PM
1

What is your passion? It doesn’t seem like fitness, service to others, or work. I didn’t see a hobby listed. What is it that drives your existence? I think you’re on the right track with finding your purpose. There are people, like myself, who are content with the day-to-day, having the good outweigh the negative. What is your goal in 20 years? 10 years? 5 years? If you haven’t found your passion, simplify your life enough to be able to explore what it might be. Don’t let yourself be tied down b…
/r/MGTOW220/10/19 09:16 PM
1

Not finishing college right out of high school has cost me more than my first (and only) marriage. It has cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential earnings, I estimate, by not finishing my computer science degree in 1993. In the same vein, after I worked for a couple morons, I realized that it was not intelligence that made success, it was ambition. I think if young men maximize their opportunities by getting the correct piece of paper from college, and avoiding entanglements in ord…
/r/MGTOW216/10/19 04:27 AM
1

It depends on what branch of construction you’re looking at getting into. For instance, carpentry, drywall, cabinetry, masonry, concrete work seem to use a lot of strength. Low-volt work, such as telecommunications, computer network wiring, security video wiring, fire alarm signaling, use less muscle. When I did it, the heaviest lifting was a ladder, or maybe a piece of network equipment. The wire is light, the tools are light, the fixtures are light, and the most dangerous seems to be falling o…
/r/MGTOW215/10/19 05:37 PM
6

Long-term? I don’t see this changing, except with age, and mellowing. If you were lucky, he will be brought down a few notches at work at some point, and If he has some perspective, he will bring it into his personal life as well.
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/19 04:32 PM
1

It was a good effort.
/r/MGTOW211/10/19 04:34 AM
1

I think never having a “real” relationship is an advantage. Kind of like why I’ve never tried heroin - I might like it and go back for more.
/r/MGTOW229/09/19 06:06 PM
1

Watch what you put in your head during the day. One of the things that helped for me was eliminating some music I really liked with lyrics that did not align with what I am trying to do. Such like: Most country music, R&B, Motown, Pop music, and eliminating the tiny bit of Hip-hop I still listened to. Too much damn simping in music will stay in your head. I moved to lectronica, pipe organ music, classical, jazz, 70s rock, ambient music. Music that, depending, you can still chill, groove, and be …
/r/MGTOW228/09/19 02:11 PM
1

You mentioned college, do you have a degree? What is the degree in? I also have a chronic disability from an accident. The balance between receiving benefits and Social Security disability can be tricky. Start the process for social security disability right away. Investigate all of the help and resources that your state offers for disabled persons. I am also a step away from homeless. The trick is to mine the resources that are available to you so you can get the best help you can. Sometimes th…
/r/MGTOW225/09/19 08:53 PM
4

It’s only risky if you consider your Reddit account to have value.
/r/MGTOW218/09/19 08:19 PM
27

I would like to think that the men with animals are dealing with their crises with companionship, instead of drugs. My litmus test for donation is generally the state of their shoes, but for animals, I will sometimes make an exception.
/r/MGTOW18/09/19 12:12 AM
1

This sounds similar to a recent question in the other forum. My advice is the same: Change the music that you put into your ears. No country and western, no R&B, pop music. I’m old enough not to care about hip-hop, So I don’t know what to tell you, but you get the idea. Anything that encourages simping feelings is out. I moved to jazz, classical, and pipe organ music. I will also do 70s rock. Watch the lyrics that go into your head.
/r/MGTOW213/09/19 12:37 AM
1

Be careful with music you listen to. Country and western, R&B, pop music, any kind of music that encourages simping can affect your mental state. I moved to classical music, jazz, and pipe organ music. I find myself doing quite a bit of 70s rock. Be careful what you put in your ears, it will affect your subconscious.
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 05:39 PM
13

My reaction also. I cut off the personal chitchat beyond “Good morning”. I do not let myself be drawn in to personal discussions, helps with work/life boundaries, helps with remaining a grey man.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 05:53 PM
1

Random thoughts: Don’t be afraid to work on your house yourself. If you screw something up, you’ll know how not to do it next time. For me, I subbed out the plumbing, and some electrical, but ran the wires myself. Still too chicken to put in a new circuit in the fuse box. For this, it’s likely you will need a truck. You’ll end up using your truck more than you thought you would. Do not help “friends” move. You’re not a delivery service. Keep 6 to 9 months worth of expenses in the bank. If you ne…
/r/MGTOW210/09/19 03:10 PM
1

The “evolutionary theorists”, in my opinion, have not moved beyond red pill rage, and are spending too much time and energy stewing in it. Once one moves beyond that, one can still acknowledge it and work to change it, but it ceases to be the focus of this portion of their life, and more energy is spent on self-improvement and self-fulfillment, which is a more positive life path.
/r/MGTOW204/09/19 07:04 PM
1

The traditional family unit IS dying. It may take a little time to make your peace with it, and let it go. This sub Reddit has plenty of examples on why not to participate with family units. As for “humanities is fucked”, to minimize the psychological pain you’re feeling, simplify, reduce, and make your definition of humanity smaller. SOCIETY is fucked, you have to find the basis of positive humanity within you. It really, really helps to have a few close men friends. For me, I consider society …
/r/MGTOW225/08/19 11:51 PM
2

Hellloo Tom! I love that man!
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 06:56 PM
1

I had an injury 5 years ago that took me from a force of nature to getting around on Lofstrand crutches (forearm canes). I will probably debilitate into a wheelchair eventually. I’m late 40s. It took me awhile to quit living in my head. I had to retrain to get a sedentary desk job. My life as a man has been largely defined by my job and work ethic and physical and financial independence, and it was soul-crushing to make adjustments to survive. Am finally actively looking for work and interviewin…
/r/MGTOW208/08/19 06:43 PM
1

This gave me chills for some reason.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 07:30 AM
1

The temptations I spoke about are the feelings that you are having now. For example, when you are older, have more resources, say, a boat, and you were fueling, or launching, or cruising by a dock or beach, you will receive far more female attention and attempts to draw you into a conversation then you do now. These are the same women that are ignoring you now. Now suddenly, you are desirable because money. They see your resources, and they want some for themselves. Because you are a man, You ar…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 11:08 PM
1

You stop looking for validation from anybody. That doesn’t mean you can’t respect the opinions of others, but the implication of validation means that your self-image depends on others’ opinion of you. (At least, the opinion they tell you to your face.) I can generally count on one hand The number of people whose opinions matter to me. My boss is not always one of them. My mother is the only woman on the list. These are people in which mutual trust (and proven history of good decisions) has been…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:10 PM
13

Are you in the United States? From my perspective, seeing a non-obese woman, let alone a fit, elegantly dressed, tastefully made-up woman will make lots of men look. I can also tell you that the over-30 men are looking mainly in appreciation, not with “evil” designs. Most of us have the sophistication to realistically know we are not what you need, or want. We are simply wired to look at female beauty. In most places, eye contact means you want to talk. The younger more aggressive men will assum…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 06:38 PM
1

You are completely right, I didn’t bring it home strong enough. It’s what I was thinking, though.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/19 04:05 PM
17

A man worth trusting and following leads his professional and personal lives like a shark does: always moving forward. Doing just enough to maintain status quo is not a plan, IMO. Progress may stall on one front or the other, but having two areas to progress forward in means that one or the other can be worked on when there is a temporary halt on one side. And, working on these two sides complement each other. Doing better professionally? Flesh out retirement and emergency funds. Put together a …
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/19 07:20 PM
20

I didn’t finish college because of a woman. I can’t even estimate how much I’ve lost.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 04:32 PM
1

As MGTOW, we can go into spaces where we like, and the people there can accept us, or not, but either way it will not affect our disposition. One of the good points about your post is that you are not concerned about receiving affirmation from outside sources. You come a little close at times, but it still works for me. You, for instance, have not withdrawn from all females in your life, I would be careful about giving their opinions any weight in your life. It is useful to be aware of the inequ…
/r/MGTOW215/06/19 03:38 AM
1

My wish is that the new subscribers are mental adults. Yay us. That is all.
/r/MGTOW214/06/19 06:54 PM
1

I found it useful to stop listening to blue-pilled country, R&B, Motown, and pre-90s popular music. Started listening to jazz, Classical, pipe organ music, and pre-2010’s rock.
/r/MGTOW209/06/19 04:54 PM
7

Buy a used bike under 500cc. You’re going to drop it. Find a friend who (even) thinks he knows bikes to look at them with you. Around SW Washington, a good budget is $1500-2000. Your area may be higher or lower. For a v-twin cruiser you could go as high as 750cc because they’re lower on power, just watch the overall weight of the bike. Be prepared to fix a couple things on the bike, preferably yourself. Budget accordingly. After thee years or 10,000 miles, which ever occurs last, Then you would …
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 04:34 AM
18

I recognize Leykis! One of the greats.
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 04:10 AM
1

Get a burner email. I like protonmail.com. Keep it short. Protonmail can be set up for an email like [email protected], they own the pm.me domain. It’s free. That way, you are still contactable, but you cannot be reverse-searched. Safer, and I think most quality people understand.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/19 05:47 PM
1

We are the last ones.
/r/MGTOW222/05/19 04:22 PM
1

Maybe he has other subreddits that he doesn’t want to be banned from, from posting here. It’s just sad.
/r/MGTOW18/05/19 11:37 PM
1

Age and experience has had something to do with it. I’d like to think I got most of it out in my 20’s, the drive down 95% from then. Late 40s now. I could have quit at 35 and been content.
/r/MGTOW209/05/19 08:11 AM
2

I wear my old wedding ring to job interviews, and at work. I have a steel curtain between my job life, and my personal life. I am really good at conversational deflection. After a while, people quit asking. No talk about family, no talk about religion, no talk about hobbies, no talk about what you did on your days off, nothing.
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 10:29 PM
1

Use with extreme moderation. It has various physiological effects that Takeaway Drive, initiative, and purpose in other areas of your life.
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 10:24 PM
3

Maybe don’t be afraid to date a bit older? Confidence / responsibility / assertiveness comes with life experience. Introverts also learn how to develop skills over time, especially once we get out of school environment.
/r/RedPillWomen21/04/19 02:57 PM
38

Rollins is inspiring. I don’t have that kind of drive or energy.
/r/MGTOW18/04/19 04:18 PM
3

Are birthdays ordinarily important to him? I don’t celebrate birthdays, holidays, or anniversaries. I begrudgingly acknowledge Christmas from the 20th to the 25th. It’s just my nature. It may be his? Seems like there’s two things here: the importance (or not) of birthdays, and discussion of scheduling upcoming events. I know that the more serious my relationship, the more I discuss my schedule.
/r/RedPillWomen18/04/19 02:32 PM
1

Men dominate other men through looks, power, and money. And these terms are the only dominating factors that matter (to me, at least). Because, as (whatever flavor of) MGTOW you are, you refuse to let anyone, let alone a woman, gain power, authority, or influence over your thoughts and actions. This is sometimes difficult in the workplace with female managers, but can be ameliorated somewhat by setting strict professional and personal boundaries. Independence is construed as domination. If I hav…
/r/MGTOW205/04/19 03:35 AM
1

I’m old. And I don’t date, as I consider the use of the word dating as a means for courtship and marriage. I will not be married again. So I don’t date. But, I have found that I can sustain a mutually rewarding relationship with a woman for about two years, then it naturally falls apart. No cohabitation, no mixing of finances, we pay Dutch when we go places that we have mutual interest in. I am clear about my intentions from the very beginning. Sometimes I go years before between relationships. …
/r/MGTOW225/03/19 06:25 PM
5

Good to see a Dalrock shoutout, even in an aged article.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 03:39 PM
4

I’d never let it get that far. If anyone asked me if I was married I would say, “as far as you know!”.
/r/MGTOW20/03/19 10:41 PM
97

Thanks for the idea: wear during job interviews and at work. A natural extrapolation.
/r/MGTOW20/03/19 03:07 PM
1

With empathy and respect, you lost me at “female friends”. Be careful you don’t lose yourself. You want to bang, bang 30-40 year old divorced women you have even less in common with than women your own age. As in bang, not date. You will have to run through some numbers, but that is much, much better than being seduced back to the plantation.
/r/MGTOW20/03/19 02:53 PM
1

I have a small number of people who’s opinions matter to me. The number fits on one hand. None of them are women.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 05:57 PM
1

I would wait for a moment in which your past is relevant to the current situation at hand. I am of the mind where it makes sense to just leave negative past experiences in the past. When effects from the past bubble up into a current situation, then you can choose to selectively disclose aspects of your past that affect the current situation. I never overshare a past item that I cannot trust that person with. If they are not trustworthy, and have no concern for discretion, then I do not trust th…
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/19 08:09 PM
1

The opposite of love is not hate, it’s apathy. Letting anyone goad you into an emotional reaction is handing over “power” (?) to them. As an old, crusty anti-authoritarian MGTOW I refuse to give anyone the power to affect my mental state. This goes for hate, shame, guilt, or any attempted emotional manipulation. Not going to happen. Works on women, works in public, works with family, and works on the job. Am I a robot? No, but I will respond only to positivity, and only then if there is no agend…
/r/MGTOW214/02/19 07:36 AM
2

To be loved, you have to love yourself first. If you love yourself first, then any additional love coming from outside will be complementary, instead of being a substitution for the love you should already feel for yourself. If you depend on outside sources for love, if/when that love is removed, it will have a negative affect on your psyche. And I control my mind.
/r/MGTOW211/02/19 05:59 PM
2

Unicorns still exist. But, they are getting rare.
/r/MensRights30/01/19 09:14 PM
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I wish it would. That's why I voted, would've voted for Bernie. I want disruption and chaos.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 05:21 PM
4

The idea is to concentrate on your own success (however you define it, sit down, visualize it, write it down) and your happiness (same). Your sense of validation and purpose should only be dependent on you, and your own actions. If you let anything else determine that for you (religion, women, family) you give them influence and control over your life. I am in full control of my life (but not retired) and I am unencumbered by outside forces keeping me from realizing my full individual potential.…
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 02:16 AM
3

I would say that the evidence is all around, but we still need to encourage critical thinking, as young men are indoctrinated by liberal feminist schools and single mothers.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 06:05 PM
11

I am not strictly against cohabitation, but my gut tells me that cohabitation with this man is a no-go. Neither one of you is in a stable place in life. The got also says that he is not acting like a captain, planning for the future, and putting together a positive situation for a wife. I’m not getting the sense that you respect him as one. I would remain uncommitted if I were you, and perhaps outline what you think a good situation would be, so that he would have a goal. If he’s interested in y…
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/18 04:13 AM
11

First they break up the nuclear family, now they want to isolate men from each other.
/r/MGTOW212/12/18 06:37 PM
22

r/natureismetal
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 06:18 PM
3

When I parked my daily ride ZRX in the living room, it eventually lost its allure by the gas fumes. But, high ceilings would make all the difference.
/r/MGTOW219/11/18 08:11 PM
7

Enjoy seeing people saying “fuck you” to the WAF (wife acceptance factor).
/r/MGTOW18/11/18 06:44 AM
5

I evaluate family like any other relationship- is it a healthy one? If not, reduce or eliminate contact. If it is one sided or drama-laden, it can go. Keep in mind portential family obligations, like being a medical designate for the folks or disabled sibling (or whatever the term is) or being the executor of a will. My siblings may not like me, or agree with me, but they know I don’t lie, cheat, steal, or manipulate people. Even if I weren’t the oldest, I still get the respect I’ve earned.
/r/MGTOW214/11/18 02:26 AM
1

I think that my progression with age and experience from beta to alpha has been supremely useful in the workplace. My quiet, understated confidence and leadership has helped me either keep work during difficult times, or find work when I need it. The trick is to morph back to beta attributes when interviewing with women, an increasing irritant in the field I’m in. I’ve had to fit myself into the position, then gradually assert myself. Been working fine so far.
/r/MGTOW213/11/18 03:56 PM
2

There is a school of thought that when one reaches the end game of MGTOW, they end up being Alpha in most respects. But at that point, it only matters what other men think. I’m not there yet, but I believe that the closer I come to MGTOW endgame, to more I can be of source of advise and service to downtrodden betas who want to change their lives for the better.
/r/MGTOW213/11/18 03:49 PM
2

I agree that hypergamy is real, but like the sliding masculine alpha/beta scale, hypergamy is subject to degrees of personal emphasis. I have anecdotally seen married and involved women be attracted to alpha-males, yet restrain from monkeybranching because they value the security and resources from their current male more than the insecurity and tingles of alpha males. The gamut runs from giving a wider, more enthusiastic smile, to affairs outside their current relationship (without the intentio…
/r/MGTOW213/11/18 03:44 PM
30

Study? Or hyperbole?
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 11:32 PM
1

I have a “when I die or go missing” file with detailed instructions and logins/passwords. Nobody knows more about it than me, may as well commit it to paper.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/18 07:13 PM
2

I just ask myself, “What would Henry Rollins do?” and act accordingly. Most of the time.
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 08:30 PM
7

I keep an extra quilted plaid jacket in the truck.. for her... The threat of actually having to wear it helps her remember her own.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 06:43 AM
5

And, when you pass 40, you could give a shit. Much easier, at least for me.
/r/MGTOW227/10/18 05:32 PM
1

There are harder truths in life to stomach. It was also a different time, the Debra Winger character seemed truly red-pilled and may have made an excellent wife. 20 years later, when I rewatched it, I remember thinking that the Richard Gere character should have waited to get out of the service before getting involved with anybody. But, I am older and grouchier.
/r/MGTOW226/10/18 02:48 PM
7

Start small, and have a short discussion beforehand. For instance, I had a gf who (turned out) enjoyed having my hands around her neck while pushing her down into the mattress (or floor, or car seat, eventually) while being more “vigorous“. She floated the idea beforehand and I gradually worked up the intensity, because it’s not in my nature. It went from a minute or two a few times, to a full-on simulated bar pickup, complete with two cars and separate entrances. Just have to work into it gradu…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/18 02:36 PM
1

I’ve met fellow hermits doing hermit-like activities. Hiking and cigars, mainly. Asking to exchange emails can be less threatening than phone numbers.
/r/MGTOW222/10/18 05:09 PM
3

We should have a hermit meetup.
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 03:42 AM
1

Knew a guy with a Kawasaki 636cc bike. Just sayin’.
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 07:07 PM
1

I picked up that you weren’t argumentative with him, so I used the word discuss to reduce any adversarial tone. Good to hear you’re united! Something else that comes to mind, is that it is usually helpful to keep discussion between yourselves in private. By inferencing your tone and reading your state of mind, I’m betting that you do. Very ladylike (can I say that without sounding condescending or sexist?) and I mean that as a compliment. Best wishes!
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/18 05:18 AM
2

23 seems young to be committed, but I’m old and things have possibly changed. This means that you grew into adulthood together... and hopefully as you both continue to grow, you will grow together. Being argumentative is different from being curious about your partners reasoning. Two points: As a man, I (mostly) enjoy explaining my reasoning on something, as long as I only have to explain something a couple times on the same issue. Multiple discussions on the same issue make me feel she isn’t li…
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/18 05:39 PM
1

Keep us updated on your progress. Positive reinforcement is good to read for me. 1 more class to finish my AA, already looking for work. Yay!
/r/MGTOW210/10/18 09:41 PM
9

Sex. Most of us want sex. We want an active participant who likes sex enough to be able to verbalize preferences, and be willing to try a variety of things (over time, while building trust), willingly. Most men who follow my self-invented rule (“get invited back”) like to give the maximum amount of pleasure possible to the woman to increase his chances of a repeat, and, for most of us, it is an ego builder to see a woman stagger off to the bathroom on shaky legs. I like to leave a woman sweaty, …
/r/RedPillWomen01/10/18 05:20 PM
1

I’ve found I read a lot more nonfiction. I’ve been know to go to the library and wander the stacks. I’ve already thought that nearly anything, given enough detail, could be interesting.
/r/MGTOW227/09/18 07:03 PM
1

Change the gearing? Chain or belt?
/r/MGTOW226/09/18 07:25 PM
1

I am not artistic, so woodcarving, painting. Or crafts are out. I screw around with Raspberry Pis and linux on old laptops, trying to improve my network security and anonymity on the internet. What are your interests? Of your interests, what can you fiddle with within your budget and living space? Make model airplanes? Model trains? Something you like to repair? Video gaming, once you have the system, whether PC or console, becomes a good value for the money with the amount of time you can spend…
/r/MGTOW226/09/18 05:52 AM
1

I saw “engaged” and got triggered. But, keeping up my cert and working on looking for a job, like it WAS a job. 8 hours a day. Yay.
/r/MGTOW211/09/18 10:30 PM
1

Keep on introspectioning. You will find you can recognize your strengths and weaknesses, and work on them both.
/r/MGTOW209/09/18 06:24 PM
6

Very weird how it all lines up so well.
/r/MGTOW09/09/18 06:19 PM
3

Love me some Dalrock... everybody link their personal favorite scholarly manosphere blogs for consideration, please.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 06:29 PM
1

It has been sad to watch. If I had anything useful to post here I would, but my life is dull. Improving, but dull. I just lurk here and there for reinforcement.
/r/MGTOW205/09/18 03:08 AM
5

Music is what kept me blue-pulled for longer than was healthy for me. Rhythm and blues, soul, quiet storm, lots of 80s pop music, all terrible. I revived my interest in the 70s rock, 90s alt rock, techno, and began my fascination with pipe organ music played really, really loudly. Threw in some jazz from the radio, and all is well.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 10:07 PM
1

Any doubts, bail. And you have doubts. They’re not going away.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 06:14 PM
2

Fascinating, and regrettably new idea for me. Affects investing as a whole. Saved comment.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 05:28 PM
2

If this sub closes, there would be a great disturbance in MGTOW, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in righteous indignation and were suddenly silenced.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 05:03 PM
3

As long as you’re not waiting for YOURSELF to transform... I’m avoiding the wait to transform to MGTOW. Go team!
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 04:20 PM
1

I come here for the friend experience... I’m not a talker...
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:38 AM
1

Learn to be ok with having less disposable income.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 05:59 AM
0

Read this site on a desktop and read the sidebar. Then, read everything on this sub. Contrast this with r/theredpill. Decide where you fall now, and where you want to end up.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 05:57 AM
3

Be careful of the media you consume. That was the key for me. Upon my big breakup, I still listened to soul, country, and simpy 70s and 80s love songs. Cut that shit out. Move to talk radio, jazz, or, if you really want to go nuts, classical pipe organ music played really, really loud. For quite a while, I only found music without vocals helped my mood. Cut down on the tv, movies, and streaming. Read books in your area of interest. Try some biographies. The older I get, the less nonfiction I rea…
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 05:29 AM
1

I had to come to the comments to see.
/r/MGTOW25/08/18 05:52 PM
6

And lift.
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 03:47 PM
1

MGTOW welcomes diversity. I’m glad the sub exists, but I wouldn’t be surprised if other MGTOW subs pop up along the way, each catering to their own version of MGTOW .
/r/MGTOW224/08/18 02:55 PM
3

MGTOW encompasses a wide diversity of readers: blue-pulled men who end up here by mistake or curiosity; purple-pulled men coming here for investigation and information; red-pulled men who were formerly blue-pulled men who are starting to understand that their journey is not complete; and MGTOW ‘ers of various ages, experience, and length of MGTOW immersion who are gracious enough to stay to dispense their hard-earned wisdom. I am thankful for them. We also have completely blindsided men in vario…
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 09:30 PM
12

At his age, he should be more of a leader for his age than he is. Part of being a leader is putting yourself in circumstances where you can succeed, not fail, or be subject to temptation. I would pass on this one.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/18 08:17 PM
1

I, also, used to be a people pleaser, and it made me do some things I didn’t like just because of ego, wanting to get along, etc... you used the phrase “Stand up for me”. As a alpha man formerly in hiding, having my woman tell me she feels I don’t “stand up for her” would’ve changed my behavior, because (for me, at least) a man will weigh passivity and texts on one hand, and his woman feeling not stood up for (or defended) on another, and make the right call. Black and white, teeter totter of a …
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/18 07:09 PM
4

I wouldn’t move on anybody at work. I openly said that I didn’t fish off the company pier, and I didn’t until a week after I left that job. Then I did!
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/18 05:28 PM
9

Couldn’t say it any better than this. You could also look at this as a leadership test.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/18 05:02 PM
1

I’m not a professional, but you sound like you’re not done grieving. If one is not done grieving, than one should not make any life choices. To find out how to deal with grief, and to possibly hasten it’s end, I WOULD see a professional. And in this day and age, I would find one, pay cash, and use an assumed name. If you’re in a small town, leave town to find one. I think that this kind of help being documented only hurts the person taking the counsel. I dealt with the death of a relationship, n…
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 07:18 PM
6

“ they act because of experiences.” The awesome thing about being a man, or at least thinking like a man, is that the experiences do not even have to be our own. We are cognizant enough to learn from others’ experiences.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 10:10 PM
1

The void is inside you, and cannot be filled by the affirmations of other people. Work on self improvement: fitness, education, and career. When you experience measureable, quantifiable results in these areas, this success was earned only by you and your efforts, making your need for approval from other people moot. And in the pursuit of these efforts, you will, as many others have, develop an internal peace, generated from within, that will obliterate the void you feel now. Live life like a sha…
/r/MGTOW216/08/18 03:43 AM
1

Unfortunately, those spaces are vanishing. I know that the Boy Scouts have troops that differ, based on the sponsoring organization, so locally you may have a choice on which troupe to join. Other options may include a church youth group, or, if you have other adult friends with children, group camping. My parents had a group of friends that we went camping with, and there was good male interaction to be had there.
/r/MGTOW216/08/18 12:00 AM
1

I would not give access to anything. Trust in a relationship, for me, is built in other ways, more personal ways, than snooping. And, if something nefarious were to go on in the future, It is easy enough to build another online identity. So, snooping doesn’t even work.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/18 08:17 PM
1

Sounds like you’re doing an excellent job. What benefited me, and I would’ve liked more of, is more time in the presence of other men. I had Boy Scouts, back in the 80s, and that was good. Luckily, my father was a teacher, and so was Able to go with me on all of the summer outings. A Boy Scout camp for a week with other boys and men was good. I think a boy observing man interacting with other men will help form a healthy pattern of association, and serve as a model for healthy masculine interact…
/r/MGTOW215/08/18 07:45 PM
1

The problem I had, and have, is that these people vote.
/r/MGTOW212/08/18 06:29 AM
2

I could have a gender reveal party wearing my winter beard (with photographs, well documented), put down the “F” on applications, and continue having intermittent lesbian relationships. Don’t judge me.
/r/MGTOW11/08/18 06:46 PM
1

It became tiring to me over 10 years ago, to have to educate the person I was having a debate with about the facts of the issue, in order for them to understand what the issue was. It sounds really condescending,but that’s what happens if you try to have a discussion with somebody who is arguing on emotion. It’s simply too much bother these days.
/r/MGTOW211/08/18 05:27 PM
1

Ballsy move.
/r/MGTOW206/08/18 03:09 PM
7

They were never pro-2nd amendment. Still aren't.
/r/MensRights06/08/18 04:24 AM
1

Any philosophy that one adheres to, and is worthy of following, holds its own against other, lessor, competing philosophies. I'm not MGTOW, but I keep plugged in as best I can to the community, and weigh the other options as they present themselves. So far, I haven't found a better one.
/r/MGTOW203/08/18 01:55 AM
5

It gets easier after 35. Also, quit listening to simp-y love songs like old R&B, 80's pop music, or Jesus, any country / western. Move to classical, or jazz, or organ/funk blues. Structure, space, and groove. Ahhhh...
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 01:58 AM
1

I hope the story is true, or untrue, in equal amounts. Weirder things have happened, but...
/r/MGTOW29/07/18 11:46 PM
3

I would consider still reading the sub, it will help reinforce your mental development.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 01:06 AM
-19

Ok.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 04:52 PM
3

I have found it useful, at work, to refer requests on my time (from women coworkers) to my boss. I say "I'm really busy now, take this to $Boss and see if he wants me to do it." Especially if it's not in my job description. Ahhhhh...
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 07:25 AM
4

I found the opposite for me, I dress a couple levels above what I used to, at play and at work. Have to be a little careful at work if you dress well, Clients have mistaken me for my boss, standing next to me in a polo and uncreased trousers and bad shoes. Still enjoyable.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 07:11 AM
1

I will not submit to being controlled.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 02:31 PM
3

For those of us to whom music is an important part of our lives, I found a real difference in my mental makeup by being careful about what I listen to.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 02:29 PM
1

Experiment for yourself, because science. Heh.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 01:11 PM
1

METOO. Any action or speech they they can take offense to (at the time or in the future, when it suits them) they will use against you. Rape or assault allegations. They cannot be told anything in confidence - can't keep private information private, at work or not.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 01:10 PM
1

Basically just emotionally strung them along. Clean my house. Run me lunch at work. Avoided expensive vacations and dinner because "saving money for later". Discreet sex in public places, or outdoors in nature. An absence of bitching because I would distance myself. They want the baby, I wanted the sex... God, we tried hard and often, but golly, nothing happened. After 12-18 months, we just drifted apart when they figure out its not going to happen. Oh well.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 01:05 PM
1

Good read!
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 08:11 PM
1

I'm really not trying to be condescending, but you sound young. As an old guy, I will tell you that this passes. Choose different media to watch. Avoid love songs in music, and romantic movies. Start feeding your brain with positive things. Focus more on improving yourself. Now that I am old, when I work with young people, I recommend they treat their lives like a shark- always moving forward (personally and professionally), never staying in the same place, or you will die. Do not take your sens…
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 08:05 PM
2

Saving this for further dissemination, with attribution, sir. Thanks!
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:57 PM
9

Make sure your dad knows he has your support. Ask him what he needs, or just spend enough time around him it comes out naturally.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:54 PM
1

Damn, sounds like you need to do damage control until you age out of this. No cohabitation. No marriage. No children. No shared finances. I got a vasectomy early 30s and didn't tell anyone, still wrapped it. I had a couple years where I was exclusive with a chick, we got tested together (clean) and I fed her baby rabies and emotionally manipulated her to do doing stuff for me with the promise of unprotected sex. So many deep nuts... A vasectomy will help #2.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:52 PM
1

Secure your financial future so when you decide to walk away from everything, you can.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:38 PM
1

It's a balance... If one avoids having a record of firearms, one avoids getting out on the lists... Depending on what one believes...
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:29 PM
3

"Lovely girl" is a term that has positive cultural and literary connotations, too bad it sounds like it was wasted on an uncultured thot.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:27 PM
2

You sound young (I'm late 40s). It get easier with age. Use your fear as a motivator. Some people respond and act with positive motivation, some with negative motivation. Fear is negative, right? I respond to negative motivation and have learned to internally generate it so I will take action. Reading this sub everyday will help you order your thinking, and with red pill rage posts, help you build your fear. MGTOW is not mindless indoctrination, it is a truthful examination of the world around u…
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:15 PM
3

Cohabitation... Never again....
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 07:03 PM
57

Die in all the wars keep us safe.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 06:02 PM
1

The screaming was such sweet, sweet music... Ahhhh....
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/18 06:58 AM
1

Read more posts on this sub. As you progress with MGTOW, women will try to trap you. Practice avoiding contact with them, particularly if there are no witnesses around.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 03:44 PM
6

You are among friends here. It's called a brotherhood. I cherish it and work to make it better for us, best I can.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 03:25 PM
37

Men's ED problems also are helped by changing to a thinner, more fit sex partner. Ask me how I know.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 03:17 PM
1

Going vegan, to some extent, can be an extension of being independent, for instance, having a vegetable garden and fruit trees on your land / in your yard, to reduce food dependence. It appeals to survivalist mentality.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:17 AM
3

Part of MGTOW (for me, at least), is caring so little about what people think that I can't be bothered to attempt educating them on how they're wrong. And, for those I allow to get to know me, my lifestyle, attitude, work ethic, and actions all scream MGTOW anyway.
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 09:14 PM
6

One has to learn being comfortable with yourself, alone. Most anecdata (including my own) seems to be a pattern of self-improvement personally and professionally, the fruits of which bring personal fulfillment, as contentment must be achieved from within. Where do you want to be in 20 years? What does halfway (10 years) look like? What needs to happen by the 5 year mark to make your 10 year goal? What do you need to finish in 2 years to make the 5 year goal? Get out of bed every day with a plan,…
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 07:08 PM
11

My friend is married to one. Two boys. High libido in her middle 40s even still. She runs the place like clockwork, he has his bikes, his computers, and his ham radio. He described it to me once as being married to man with tits. Going on 25 years. Good for him.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 06:55 PM
7

Syndicated in Portland, OR then too. A big factor in my mental development then. I even like his wine and spirits show. His podcast may be tanking, but let's face it, he hasn't needed to work for the last 15 years at least.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 05:19 PM
6

I'm trying to be sincere and not condescending. You're young. I too had to sample the fetid waters and tiptoe to MGTOW, eventually. It's ok to draw closer to MGTOW on your own pace AS LONG AS you protect yourself in these ways: No cohabitation, ever. I've come close to living in my vehicle rather than this. No kids, ever. Don't father any, don't date single moms, even tho they're low-hanging bang fruit. Dates (if any) cost less than two hours wages. Dates not allowed to see where you live. Bang …
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 04:37 PM
6

Makes me smile every time I see it!
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 03:53 AM
7

Planning is good. You can get education here, but the impetus to change your thinking and your actions must come from within. Read in particular the more scholarly items on how women think. I was helped immensely by learning arguementive techniques, like gas lighting, using a strawman, and moving the goalposts. For me, once I saw the lack of thinking, the lack of logic, the lack of planning,the lack of empathy for others, and women's refusal to admit the truth during discussions it helped me cem…
/r/MGTOW16/07/18 07:05 AM
1

No.
/r/MGTOW15/07/18 04:31 AM
1

A long time ago, I did this, she said "Mmmm..." with a faraway look in her eyes. I think her bi-dial may have just moved a bit with my choice...
/r/MGTOW14/07/18 10:33 PM
5

Upvoted because excess joy!
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/18 08:47 PM
15

Well... In the eighties, when I was told to "man up", the next words from the men who told me were words of analysis (of the problem) and the direction a man would take, and encouragement to do it. "Man up" was not used in instances involving girls, but in instances of laziness. For me, it was a call to a work ethic, not a path to be a simp. And, these same men would remember and follow up with positivity when they saw accomplishment, or at least effort. It was their masculine heritage, because …
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 06:03 PM
3

Use a wheelchair...
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 06:21 AM
2

A danger of cohabiting is letting your budget get out of control. In my case(s), I let recreational spending and debt get to a point I couldn't afford a place by myself. Better now, but if you can't afford to live by yourself, on your own income, you're doing something wrong. That way, when the lease comes up, this allows you to nope out of there. PS Car loans are the devil, don't do it. Cash for cars. If you have $500, that's what you buy. It's not a down payment.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 10:48 PM
1

Gloomy has to pop up once in a while, because of the constant flow of visitors and new subscribers. As long as they are well-written, cogent, relevant, and avoid garden variety bitching like a women, I'm ok with it.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 10:42 PM
2

Realizing how to manage a discussion is something that I got better at the more red-pilled I got. Gaslighting, moving the goal posts, being emotional, using a strawman... Knowing the techniques to keep the discussion on track, and to my advantage.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 08:17 PM
1

I'd like to see a return to emails and independently hosted websites. The web was better when one had to spelunk.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 05:53 AM
1

Thought this was r/MGTOW, some days it's more like r/roastme.
/r/MGTOW09/07/18 02:42 AM
1

If I were still in that market, I'd simply film the entire encounter... Kind of a relief to be old and past that stuff.
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 10:06 PM
6

I got one at 31. Off work couple days, no big deal. Consider not telling ANYONE about it. Not their business. Not the folks, and particularly not sex partners. For medium term relationships, I used to increase the quantity and quality of sex by pretending to love her and nut oh so deep in her to prove my love. They fucking cream on that emotional shit. Then, after I'm bored, I left them. Otherwise, wrapped it all the time. This worked for me in the 90's, dunno about now.
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 10:03 PM
13

I go to indoor cigar bars. I'm late 40's and I'm the youngest one there, usually. Heard some interesting perspectives on some things.
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 08:35 PM
1

I don't mind reading a red-pill rage screed as long as it's a personal story, and the poster stays in the thread and accepts (or at least considers) the reasoned wisdom that is usually dispensed. And, the screed is not just attention-whoring. I've found this MGTOW forum to be tolerant and civilized, mostly. There are some wonderful examples of English posted here daily. I remain grateful for the reinforcement here.
/r/MGTOW04/07/18 08:20 PM
1

Adding another stressor in your life will not help your depression. In my case, at least, simplifying ones life was a better coping mechanism. And, if you think of it this way, how unfair is it to her to expect her to deal with this for the rest of her life? It won't work to expect her to be a support mechanism to you, she will only resent you and things will go badly in ways you can't visualize yet.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 05:31 PM
1

Wow 32 page views. Sounds like a sticky sub.
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 08:29 AM
3

Money = options. Money = self reliance.
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 06:11 PM
1

Being a man is about taking responsibility for yourself... It's an attribute, not an age. Think about 500 years ago, it's likely you'd be considered a man back then. Maybe a mountain man... (Just to kid you.)
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 06:09 PM
5

Too much engagement. I don't argue. I don't let people into my personal life. I enjoy giving non-answers, if I need to. "Mm". "It's nice it works for some." "You seem upset about something that I don't care about." "Whatever." "Project much?"
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 06:03 PM
2

Depression is a hole in your psyche that any relationship can't fill. For me, it was self-improvement. Self-improvement in my work life (education / advancement) and self-improvement in my personal life (fitness and pursuit of enrichening hobbies). And, I kept these lives separate, so if one side was not going well, I'd have the other to buoy my spirits. Your happiness is dependent on you alone, not others, and if you don't like who you are now, and are depressed, I found self-improvement to wor…
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 05:49 PM
6

One can choose ones association in the outside world as an adult. Not so in high school. Plus, in high school, one has fewer measures able to be taken for self protection.
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 03:30 PM
3

Get your sense of self-worth from within yourself, don't depend on other people. Eliminating bad quality relationships is part of the technique and strength you need to MGTOW. Many MGTOW are alone, yet not lonely. Contentedness with one's own company is the first step to loving yourself first. Acquaintances are fine. Clingy friends from imbalanced relationships will keep you from maximizing your personal potential. At the very least, break it all off, and listen to no one for a year. Then you wi…
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 02:57 AM
3

Good that he's making a change. Silver lining and all that.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:32 AM
3

"I don't require validation from anybody."
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:31 AM
2

When I had in-laws, I'd sit there and smile at the idiocy, refuse to engage, and say things like "Hmmmm" and "I'll give that the thought it deserves".
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:29 AM
20

It's all in this sub. Humor. Wisdom. Education. Politics. Venting. Dreams. Goals met. Inspiration. Advice. I've only one other place on the internet that I see reasoned, logical, non-inflammatory debate take place. So nice. So refreshing.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:18 AM
1

If it comes up in a mixed-company group conversation, and I'm ready to shut shit down, I just explain its cheaper to hire shit done than get married/co-habitate again. Cleaner? $60 week. Lawn? $50 week. Silence? Priceless.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:11 AM
2

Dark colored ones, I hope.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 03:50 AM
2

Love the no plant policy.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 03:43 AM
2

Yup!
/r/MGTOW23/06/18 08:49 PM
8

Uncomfortable with you paying is an ego thing that will go away as your relationship deepens. Find / read the book "Five love languages" and find out what his is. Keep in mind, some people show love in one way (like paying for things / gifts) and prefer to receive another way, like acts of service, or physical touch, or signs of affirmation. Forgot the other one... (Maybe distraction-free time spent with him?) Acts of service, like a picnic, a hike, or drive, or a personally fixed meal are reaso…
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/18 08:29 PM
2

I typically wear a suit or jacket and tie every once in a while just to keep my manager on edge. Admit nothing, suit up once in a while. Heh.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 09:33 PM
2

Easier the older you get. I'm not monk mode, but the drive definitely went down after 35, due to better emotional control and letting logic control decisions that were previously left to emotions. The trick is to stop and think before decision or action. Listen to the gut. Don't make hasty decisions and don't be afraid to put off a decision or action, especially if you're being pressured. Weirdly, the enforced space I keep makes them thirstier.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 03:26 PM
1

Bell first.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 02:25 PM
36

If you're getting too comfortable, it may mean that it's time to consider self-improvement in some way, like more school, job training, or fitness goals. I'm old, but I advise people to move thru life like a shark: if you're not moving forward, you're dying.
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/18 11:25 PM
2

I'd listened to Tom Leykis on the radio in the middle 90's. I didn't follow his advise then (still not fully MGTOW now) but remembered to weigh his evidence against what I observed in my life. Two decades later, I've been gloriously divorced for 21 years. I was / am BP enough to have 3 more years as a stepfather, but it is my choice and delight to do so. The 3 years timetable is out in the open, and is a certainty. I'd caught man-centric topics discussed with older coworkers and relatives, and h…
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 03:44 AM
1

That kinda money, I'd have somebody watching my back...
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 03:06 AM
1

Use a VPN. It adds a bit of overhead, so I don't use it on cellular data, but I flip the switch when I use wifi other than at home. I use PIA but there are others.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 07:56 AM
8

Have the clerk use the safe at the front desk, open only for you. Leave id with it for pic verification. Works for me.
/r/MGTOW10/06/18 11:43 PM
2

I admire his enthusiasm, but I think his understanding needs to be refined. MGTOW is not a movement. There is no organization, mailing address,hotline number, lobbyists, or elected leader. Every man has a different destination. MGTOW can be successfully practiced in different ways by different individuals, in their own way. There is no rule book or playbook, only loosely interpreted truths that are repeatably, statistically, and demonstrably true. I disagree with his assertion that chasing money…
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 01:05 AM
6

My line is "I'm gloriously divorced for 21 years!" with a wide, shit-eating grin.
/r/MGTOW07/06/18 11:22 PM
2

Have to watch definitions. "Girlfriend" means exclusive dating. Dating requires emotional and physical fidelity. To us old people who haven't lost the English language, dating is what you do when you're evaluating a person to marry. If you are not exclusive, you are not dating, you're spending time with a friend. There is also opportunity cost. If, as a man, I see a woman who allows herself to be used as a "placeholder" girlfriend, I may make suppositions (to be confirmed, or not, later) about h…
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/18 05:49 PM
2

Love the 5 languages. Which one is he? That would be the question. I'm difficult because I show using one, and prefer to receive another. LDRs are hard.
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/18 06:09 AM
11

And a nice technique to pick your moment for discussion.
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/18 05:16 AM
5

I'm just hunkered down, trying to live as well as I can, before I die in my own terms. I don't expect it to get better, only worse. I'm mid 40s.
/r/MGTOW31/05/18 06:25 PM
3

Barring mental health issues, and retaining the ability to clear, rational thought, I've always thought that the ability to end one's own life on ones own terms was a fundamental pillar of self-determination; as in, the person decides their own fate. I've seen situations with old people that I will never allow myself to reach. Not what we're discussing here, but something to keep in mind.
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 05:48 PM
1

Introverts like us have friends that can go for months with contact, but when we do, we can pick up a conversation just like we never left it. Though finding them are rare...
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 06:58 PM
2

I look at it from an economic point of view. Unwanted children are a net drain on public resources. Yes, there are exceptions, but statistically speaking, a net drain. I leave my emotions at the door. If I have a lapse, I think about what kind of childhood they're going to have, statistically speaking, and I consider it a kindness not to put anybody through that.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:21 AM
10

Anything having to do with planning or executing a wedding. Anything having to do with Valentine's Day. Jewelers. Anybody who would sell a man a mini van. Bed, bath, and beyond. Cheap furniture stores. The rent-to-own household goods industry. Disney. Florists. Some parts of the travel industry.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:42 AM
4

My line used to be "I'm sorry you're upset." Sometimes it'd go right by them. Admit nothing.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 03:17 AM
1

Tom Leykis says... The cure for ED is YG. Works for me. Repeatedly.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 10:52 PM
6

He's not bottling it up, he's compartmentalizing- which I believe is a masculine trait. Sort of like not multi-tasking, which I have read in more than one place can be a masculine trait. When he (and I) come home, if we're lucky, most (if not all) of our work thoughts have left us. I realize that good women are interested in support and are curious about our day (particularly in view of seeing if you can be of service), but a method of controlling stress is compartmentalization. I realized this,…
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/18 06:59 PM
12

My friend, happily married for 22 years, admits that he married "a man with tits", and by God it's really worked out for them. It's something to behold. Though, not something I aspire to.
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 07:00 PM
1

Had mine done 2nd year into a LTR... At 31. The LTR sputtered and went out. I failed to mention it to other LTRs along the way (before redpilled at 44 finally) and it was nice having peace of mind. I've always done what I wanted (or at least what I could afford) anyway, now full time GMOW at 48. What a relief.
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 11:05 PM
2

There is only so many of these I can read without being sick. Still, I keep coming back. I guess I am still training.
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 04:16 PM
3

That line has stuck with me since I first saw it, unfortunately I saw it too late to avoid some damage.
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 07:59 PM
1

The most interesting man in the world...
/r/MGTOW09/03/18 07:48 AM
1

There are scammers. I look at two things: their desperation and their shoes. Good shoes, nope. I gave a guy my pepper spray,$5 and the prepackaged half of my lunch after almost walking by a guy with bags on his feet. He seemed shocked.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 11:23 PM
12

Anecdotally, I disagree. The depression comes from other women getting on you knowing about it. I never told anyone.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 09:45 PM
1

As you get older, the emotions fade away. It took till mid 30s for me. 47 now. Don't let your biological urges rule you, and let logic, reason, and planning govern your actions. In the meantime, focus on positive reinforcement by improving yourself. Map out a road map of where you want to be. Accumulate some cash to give yourself time, and choices. Being broke is more debilitating than anything.
/r/MGTOW21/02/18 10:59 PM
3

Anybody remember Tom Leykis in the 90's? He's still streaming, doing the work!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/18 01:12 AM
1

Below triple digits, no worries for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/18 08:52 PM
235

Would have liked to have seen how gracefully (or not) she took that.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/09/17 10:21 PM
243

He had the casual, practiced motion of having done this a lot. Hmmm...
/r/PussyPassDenied23/07/17 11:41 PM
14

This is what it looks like when you're not trying to hurt somebody. Should've tazed her, bro.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/06/17 12:12 AM
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