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Blaming prevents taking responsibility. Let's just lay this out. About 75% of Trumps voters don't like him. But when faced with a choice between him and the pack of assholes you seem to like... easy choice. I think soon we will be enforcing this with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:18 AM
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The description here is scary on point. The understanding of why thus stuff happens is just way off. There are just a lot of men who can't be a casual guy. The manipulation is just a power rebalancing... like a sexual Robin Hood. The only negative is that sometimes really good women get caught up. That's why if you are quality yourself... just make him wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:11 AM
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A lot of promiscuous women try to change and settle down. I mean if they didn't a lot of male issues would vanish overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:07 AM
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I'm tangentially involved in some highly religious communities... and for the most part these husband's are way more engaged than normal. Of course 5 kids isn't uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:01 AM
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It's risk aversion vs bullshit tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:59 AM
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The my body my choice argument died when women were forcing men to get experimental vaccines. I mean look, go ahead and 4B or whatever. Nobody needs your fascist bullshit. Maybe you can 4B yourself all the way to Iran or someplace wonderful like China. I think what women don't get is that even ugly losers can get a female ugly loser from another country that will be happy as hell to be in a good country. An ugly loser woman cannot do the same without compromises they don't seem willing to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:53 AM
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If you spend time overseas it seems like every nationality has these groups and they kind of hate each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:56 PM
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We communicate differently than women, and we really need our own space to do this. You have to understand how powerful this idea is and how damaging it is to not have it. My city used to have a gay neighborhood with lots of gay bars. The women started showing up in big numbers, then straight men. Now my gay friends feel like their community is not as connected. I suspect half of them voted for Trump this time around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:49 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed that. The problem men face with power is that it seems to come with responsibility. Women who gain power spend an inordinate amount of time dodging responsibility. They tend to care more about the consequences, while men tend to be totally cool with firing 10,000 people and ruining thier lives... at least on the surface. So these guys who are always in control get to a point where they need a release... and having a woman dominate them... sometimes in a mommy style is a very a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:40 PM
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Stereotyping is a natural human thought process. When I was a kid they taught us to overcome it. Now they teach kids to embrace it and just target certain groups, for example men. But I have a different theory on why men send dic pics, and feminism plays no real part in it. I think it's some kind of shame or dominance mechanism. I say that because these weirdos exist even among nudists. In those places they will corner a woman and masterbate in front of her. This shit needs more study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:31 PM
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I read this as Feminists are to blame. Plenty of men in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:13 PM
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You choose them every day. What you are experiencing is simply an easy choice. That is the best way to have a relationship... with someone who makes choosing to love them feel natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:11 PM
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If you think there is a significant group of voters who just want to "put women in thier place", then you are just not in touch with reality. I mean most men just look at the current party platform, the rhetoric coming from these folks, and it's clear they hate men... in particular white men. What makes me wonder is how people can vote for a party that says racist stuff, pushes racist policy, and openly hates men? And the other side does what? Sees 4D ultrasounds that look like a baby and think.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:07 AM
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Hmmm.... I feel like you have a piece of the truth. I don't think love is about beauty. I think love is about choice. When you love something or someone you place it at the center of your life and you do it with intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:48 AM
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You don't need a PI. Most cases a cellphone screenshot will resolve it. Fact is that today cheating leaves an enormous digital footprint.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:18 PM
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Honestly... I just can't believe even 1 person in the UK votes Labor. I find a group of people that not just tolerates but encourages rape and violence against underage girls to be disgusting. Nothing personal... it's just nothing in the US even compares except the sexual violence by human traffickers who target those entering the US illegally... which we are trying desperately to stop. I mean Americans take guns and wander the desert looking for these groups and then hold them while border patr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:15 PM
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Uh... you folks literally vote in favor of whole gangs that abuse the most vulnerable young women in society and then try to imprison anyone who complains about it. So keep talking. What is the value of a Two Tier Kier supporters opinion? It's by nature hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:33 PM
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It reduces penile sensitivity. This issue increases as a man ages too. I do agree with your general point though. Having read just the categories and how they break down and what they represent... I think the overall point of this thread is correct. OECD only cares about women. I think most active bureaucracies are the same way... they don't give a shit about men. That's just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:32 PM
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Uh... The folks going by Ze and Zir would greatly disagree with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:29 PM
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Because a person’s career, educational background, and social standing are all important aspects of their life and who they are. These things have NOTHING to do with core compatibility. I mean we don't care about a woman's accomplishments to a greater degree. What use is a highly accomplished woman who is a quarrelsome asshole? A woman with zero accomplishments can offer just as much compatibility as one with lots... and is actually less likely to be an asshole because accomplishing things usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:31 PM
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Being boring can be toxic, especially if someone gets more boring over time. If you married someone who had a vest for life and loved to travel and experience new things and meet people and they turned into a total homebody over time that can be exceptionally hard to deal with. Incompatibility can be developed over time, because people do change. I know you feel that way, but it's only toxic when they are trying to keep you from seeing friends or doing things you believe are fun. I just can't se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:25 PM
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Because the Black Pill refuses to acknowledge that personality, social skills, or anything but Looks, Money, or Status play a role. Red Pillers never liked game deniers, because they always attribute changes in success to luck, or just refuse to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:57 PM
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What you’re describing is fear that a woman will just leave for no reason at all. There is always a reason. If you look at studies, something like 70% of relationship issues are not fixable. Most men come to terms with this and accept it. Some women also learn to live with less than their ideal. An ever increasing group of women do not believe they should ever compromise on what they want. What I don't know is how many times these situations happen because a husband isn't meeting direct needs vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:47 PM
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You have to define "mistreatment" because if you look at almost all high profile cases like this... it's much more common that the husband is the one putting up with abuse and toxicity. I think Eat Pray Love is kind of the perfect example of this phenomenon. How was that guy abusive or toxic? Is it abusive to simply not be rich enough? Is it toxic to not have six pack abs or be 6'2". I mean let's cut the crap.... not meeting ridiculous expectations isn't the husband's fault. This IS hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:38 PM
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It’s not that women are less committed - women have limit to their patience, and commitment doesn’t mean to stay with a partner who ignores idea your needs. Of course, some women are fickle, but when we’re talking about years and decades of relationship ending with a woman walking away, I don’t think she wasn’t committed. There are different types of commitment. I see people sitting in a job they hate for decades because the pay is good, it's secure, and they don't need to put in much effort. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:34 PM
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It means whatever she want's it to mean. That is the problem with these kinds of discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:26 PM
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Obviously whether she is good or not doesn't matter, it's still the man's job to keep her happy. That's the way women see it, and that's the way society sees it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:25 PM
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A lot of men get angry when women leave toxic husbands because they believe that women don’t deserve “good” men. Actually, nobody believes this and the fact that you believe this makes you sound insane. What men complain about is women leaving non-toxic men. The guys who are just boring. The best selling author who wrote Eat Love Pray left her boring husband for some exciting new guy while on a trip to "find herself". Now she is leaving that exciting new guy for another one... If you can't ackno…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:24 PM
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The fact that you can't articulate the difference here makes me feel like you still don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:41 AM
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LOL... that's the same guy. If your guy is so afraid of kids he wants butt sex, don't have kids with that guy... better yet... don't have butt sex with him either. Here is the thing... when you have power over a decision then you MUST be the person who is responsible for it. So, if you have the power of choosing who to have children with, you shouldn't bitch about the consequences or seek to make other people pay the bill. At the same time, if you are a guy and don't want kids... maybe you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:05 AM
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Hey, teach your son to do chores and he will grow up and do chores as an adult. My dad was useless at cleaning. My mom decided to break the cycle and taught me to clean. She also failed to teach my sister. I'm successful and my sister is a useless waste of space who lives in filth. But, for the record, doing daily household chores with your husband isn't going to give him that feeling. Do a project, listen to him, take directions, and accomplish it together. Do this and he will love you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:56 AM
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I think when men say they want a submissive woman they mean they want an agreeable kind woman who is cares about them and is eager to please I don't even think you need to be eager to please, just agreeable. The big thing here that I think most women don't understand is that what men really love is when you help him tackle tasks and achieve goals. Even if it's just going outside and building something together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:52 PM
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I understand that, in my own marriage that is my husband. He was a SAHH and then a SAHD. But, he completely supported himself before we met, and is capable of fully supporting our family if we ever reached a point where I was no longer able to. Awesome! I see what you are saying now. Totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:24 PM
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It's the cult of victimhood. If you live in the west if you don't have a choice, a job isn't going to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:20 PM
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so that I can leave any situation that doesn’t suit my needs The easiest way to avoid toxic situations is to not date toxic people. That said, mistakes do happen, and a career is helpful to a degree in getting out of these situations but somewhere around 90% of the women I've known in abusive toxic relationships had full time jobs. The part I was mostly talking about is the above quote. Look, there is always someone willing to take your abuse... if you found your happy victim then more power to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:17 PM
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I would agree that at minimum you are incredibly insecure and abuse is a high risk factor. However, that isn't what we are discussing. We are talking about the reasons you build a career. People who do this for themselves vs people who do this with the motivation of helping others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:11 PM
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Yeah... I don't know any feminists who are willing to support a partner. I actually think if you are a woman who is supporting a partner of any type... you probably won't be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:55 PM
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so that I can leave any situation that doesn’t suit my needs or one that is potentially toxic. Men were taught to do these things so that they could support a family and take care of others. I suspect the goal most parents have when raising daughters is the same. To just focus on yourself and make money so that you don't have to fully commit to a relationship is.... well... selfish is probably the most accurate word. My recommendation is nobody should ever get involved with you beyond the surfac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:54 PM
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It's best to have one parent whose primary job is childrearing if you have kids under 4 according to studies. Personally, I would say under 8 is better, and under 18 if you can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:49 PM
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I think what you are talking about is that men are much more likely to occupy both ends of an extreme. This applies to a lot of traits. So, men will be more of the best, and also more of the worst, whereas more women are likely to be in the middle of a distribution. It is proposed that this is because men lack the lower part of the X Chromosome, so there is no backup for when a gene fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:07 AM
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Why is nobody talking about these things. Social Justice in Education is wrecking boys long term prospects, and DEI is direct oppression of men. Also... Child support should be at minimum capped to whatever the government is paying for foster kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:31 PM
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Even if that happened it doesn't make men happier, it makes them less happy. I did a review of male happiness in different communities combined with average fertility. I personally find the results shocking. I think... now I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the way to make men happy is to create social conventions that oppress them and force them to conform. How free women are does not have a significant impact on either women's or men's happiness. Instead it's the lack of freedom on men that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:29 PM
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.... how are those standards high compared to the USA? Eastern Europe - Standards are Personality + Achievements USA - Standards are genetic traits such as height/looks + Income in the Top 5% + Top Level social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:18 PM
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In order to be succesful with women, you need to be what women want and the lion's share of those qualities are fixed, static, or more precisely out of your control. This is incorrect. The vast majority of traits women find attractive are related to self care, and social skills. The physical traits are not the primary selection methods for nearly 80% of the female population. What you have is a situation where the largest part of an entire generation of boys has been intentionally stripped of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:13 PM
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I think what you and the other poster are really failing to capture here is that this entire thing is artificial. We are intentionally oppressing men in a way that incentivizes their disengagement. Women are being PUSHED to devote themselves to careers and men are being pushed out of schools and out of high paying jobs, especially in management in favor of less competent women. If you stopped oppressing boys, and changed affirmative action to compensate for the past 20 some years of discriminati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:08 PM
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I'm going to be straight with you on this. The reason dating apps suck for women is that the selection criteria is primarily based on a couple of photos. Men swiping fewer women IS NOT going to change this key issue. Men are simply A LOT less picky about physical attraction. One particular big issue is that highly attractive men drown in matches and this leads them to look for hookups rather than relationships. The Black Pillers like to blame the 80/20 thing and women in general for this. Howeve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:04 PM
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It's not really talked about much though; not many people want to stick their necks out since there's so much risk and little reward for being outspoken. I know a couple of OBGYN's who live in my blue state, and were expert witnesses in testifying to the committee of our nearby Red State on the effects of their rather stringent law. She claimed this was causing lots of death an injury, but couldn't provide details. The cases she did mention were not substantially different from cases that had oc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:51 PM
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Their marriages are on average two to three times more stable than the average american marriage... so of course we shouldn't worry about them. They are doing fantastic. It's everyone else that needs to be worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:41 AM
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Not to brag (seriously) but I'm on some "big dick" forums (another account), and the consensus is that there's no correlation between height and pussy size. Ethnicity has the highest correlation to vaginal opening size. However, height absolutely plays a role in depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:15 PM
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the "marriage is a ball and chain" jokes started in the 80s i think Yes... the 1880s. The problem is that it's just as true for men as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:48 PM
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If being with a specific man doesn't make her more happy and fulfilled, why would she? This creates the general idea that a man is responsible for a woman's happiness... which I find to be just totally untrue. When I date unhappy women... I can only make them happy temporarily. I refuse to be responsible for someone else's emotional state. The other thing is that we don't have a huge group of women that are about to join the nunnery. There are a number of strategies women are using right now to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's called a D&C. I used to sell the equipment to perform it. I think sometimes they call it a Suction Aspiration. Either way, this should not be considered an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:09 AM
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Yes w the caveat that there is no legal recourse for anyone when a doc thinks an abortion is needed to prevent a serious risk of killing or maiming the mom It's basic self defense. I'm not so sure we have had deaths because physicians are scared. Maybe in places like Mississippi, but not anywhere near where I live. I work with the physicians, so they tell me what's going on. I'm much more concerned that patients are afraid. The situation I keep hearing about is a woman trying to get a back alley…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:58 PM
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Lots of cultures in human history have practiced infanticide if the community could not feed another mouth. 100% accurate. Abortion has to be legal. It should also be well regulated... in particular for safety aspects, and placed within reasonable time limits. 6 weeks is not reasonable in my opinion, while 20-24 weeks makes much more sense. I actually think like 70% of the adult population in the US agrees with this stance. Which is how we know it exists as an election issue because the parties …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:43 PM
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This is kind of misleading. In the event of a miscarriage virtually every time the baby is already dead, and in the rare event that it's not... then the child cannot survive. So, these aren't really abortions because you aren't aborting anything. Instead these are procedures to clear out all the tissue from the deceased child to prevent sepsis. Unless you are talking about a different procedure. I was a vendor for Planned Parenthood for years, but they seriously wouldn't even allow state inspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:39 PM
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In my late 20s, I wound up with an illness that required medication that absolutely destroyed by testosterone production and I didn't realize it. Actually, my physician didn't even think it worth mentioning, but it also dropped my hemoglobin levels, since that's tied to your testosterone. I was an absolutely miserable person. Once I found the issue, I started taking testosterone supplements and my levels cranked way up for about 2 years. Then I got healthy, stopped taking all meds and my life we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:31 PM
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Check you estrogen levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:26 PM
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No, they want attractive women; they accept unattractive women because they can't get the attractive women they want This is incorrect. When I'm high T, my focus greatly shifts. A chubby woman that looks like an ancient fertility goddess is VERY appealing to me, and skinny women with 8 year old boy hips are much less attractive. Although, nothing has ever made fake silicone asses look good. It should also be said that a woman being highly sexual is much more appealing. I feel like it pushes me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:06 PM
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Or perhaps maybe it's that you are an overweight middle aged parent trying to date slim women in their 20s also from your post history. LOL... This is actually a big indicator of low testosterone. When my T is high, I'm just not that concerned with how my woman looks. This has also increased with age too, but the first time it was very noticeable was when I was taking testosterone in my late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:02 PM
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It's also potential that women in this age category aren't looking for high T mates since their fertility window is closed. I mean most 65 year old men are dating 60 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:58 PM
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I don't think you are understanding what testosterone does. First it makes you extremely horny and lowers your standards. The second thing it does is helps you build muscle and burn fat. The third thing is that it gives you drive and ambition to accomplish stuff AND ignore your own anxieties. Low T, makes you picky as hell, so anxious you are unable to function, and uninterested in achieving anything. I had a medical issue that crashed my testosterone at around age 27. For 3 years I did the supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:54 PM
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In some circumstances, YES. Usually these men are choosing work over their entire family... and it's very stupid. However, you have to understand that most of the men who do this... they do it because they deep down believe that the thing they contribute most to the family is money. They see themselves almost entirely in provider terms. There are some that just don't want to be that involved.... and these guys legitimately suck, but it's not the majority. We must have a shift in the attitudes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:48 PM
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It depends on your gender and/or religious indoctrination. Feminism IS religious indoctrination. You are the very generation which perpetuated pre-feminist gender roles, how can you possibly claim to know what drove modern women to run away from the trad life? You view this through a lens of feminist religious indoctrination, and you believe so many untrue things that you cannot come to a correct conclusion about this... it's broken your mind. There are a couple of things that made FAMILIES not …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:17 PM
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LOL... they have much higher access today, and to much more powerful shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:10 PM
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I think happiness is more a function of results vs expectations. However, there is a lot more to it than just that, because otherwise very low expectations would lead to higher levels of happiness and that just isn't true either. You have to have your core life needs met, before comparing results to expectations. So, what we are looking at today is that women in the past had more core needs met, AND they had more realistic expectations of both themselves and those around them. You can see from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:09 PM
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Ok so just imagine you were born in a different time. I have actually studied history. Not only that, I was raised by the generation in question. Not allowed to work - better get married! This was never true at any point in history. Typically at any time 20% or so of the female population never married and never had children. Almost every generation had a war where large amounts of men were slaughtered like pigs to the butcher yard. Women were almost entirely exempt, so there were just not enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:03 PM
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But men can refer to pop culture memes and see very clearly that women were overworked, unappreciated and relentlessly harangued by men they were not sexually attracted to. I was partially raised by my grandparents, and I knew this generation intimately. They didn't have the feminist brainwashing you have, so they looked at all this stuff very differently. There wasn't this pity party of self absorption. Life was fucking hard, and people had to overcome problems, obstacles, and a lot of the stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:32 PM
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Pent up demand. After an initial increase, then divorce rates fell way below previous levels. It wasn't until the Boomers started getting married in large numbers that the divorce rates start steadily increasing. If you look at the Greatest and Silent Generations they got divorced at what we would consider insane low rates. Also, if you look at polling data on happiness, those women were happier than women today by crazy high margins!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:15 PM
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When women had no rights they pretty much had to be married off to live and exist. No, THIS is a weird lie people tell themselves. Women always had rights, often times more rights than men. Throughout history there were always women who didn't marry and didn't have children, usually about 20% of all women. They were always positions within society that provided them status and protections. If you go back to the 1950s, nearly 30% of the female population had jobs outside of the home. This idea th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:59 PM
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Yes, BUT in the past cultures took great pains to raise boys like that up. The list of great historical figures who were weak as boys is very long. One of my favorites was Frederick the Great of Prussia. His father pushed him, and the men around him pushed almost to a breaking point if you read his letters, but he overcame his natural tendencies to become the most brilliant and decisive generals of his era. The thing is that we are not supposed to give up on these boys. We are supposed to help t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:46 PM
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Most women don’t just pick guys face on status and money. What women prioritize is very much individual dependent. This ignores the enormous amount of overlap between women. I mean if they were all looking for something different, then you would find a lot fewer single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:58 PM
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It's an extremely common saying that nice guys confuse being nice with being a spineless doormat. I completely agree with this. However... It's always said in response to spineless men who self identify as "nice". It's not also commented how these spineless men will tend to also wrongly think that spineless women are "nice". Which is also something to take into account in all the "even nice girls date bad boys" discussions. Spineless men are not born, they are made. I think what and many others …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:50 PM
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You probably should have taken that a different direction, because now you just look like a fool. It's a metaphor for economic competition, and you were intellectually incapable of grasping that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:28 PM
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Yes! A very dramatic piece of prose! That was the point, it's an attention grabber. If you look at life... survival in the past hasn't been very easy. We built this whole society up men and women working together, and we take everything that went into building it for granted. There really isn't that much keeping us from descending into a failed state like N. Korea or Mogadishu. Understand that there are a lot of people who want that. They want to destroy this system, and I suspect you unwittingl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:16 PM
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Who is oppressing and discriminating men? It's a coalition of women and wealthy men. What grievances? Education, Justice, Finance, Taxation, Gender based discrimination in almost everything from company formation to job promotion, to educational outcomes, and media. There are so many issues they cannot be all addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:07 PM
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Having a lot of men who feel those things and have no hope could be dangerous though. Some might take accountability, improve themselves or get therapy or something, but many won't. I think you are missing the point of the whole thing. This stuff is happening because men are being discriminated against in almost every institution our society. This isn't JUST about these kids fixing themselves. We have an entire system that needs to get fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:01 PM
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Again, that's nobody's fault. Those men should take accountability for their depression and anger. Discrimination against men is to blame for this. They have a right to be angry with their oppressors and have a right to band together to have these grievances addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:57 PM
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Reading this made me realize that RP gives men a lot of license to think about better, sexier, deeply fictional men ad nauseam. Lots to unpack there, but women seem rather secondary to this whole fantasy I think this glib response is myopic and self centered. On a very fundamental level, men are forced to compete with one another for almost everything. If you had to live this existence, of course you would be fucking obsessed with your competition as well. To us life is a gladiatorial arena, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:42 PM
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Haha, so, in summary: the Red Pill isn’t a strategy for men to get the results they want in dating, but rather a way of punishing women for acting some kind of way? It's a strategy for getting what you want out of dating, and as a result you prevent women from taking advantage of you. What's so hard to comprehend about that? I mean it's always been about breaking away from the brainwashing that turns men into beasts of burden to be used and discarded entirely for the benefit of elite men and mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:10 PM
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Yes, RP agenda is about being mad at imaginary women. Almost every Red Pill guy has a very specific woman they are upset with. Once did a poll and 80% of Red Pill men had experienced a woman cheating on them. I suspect the Black Pillers are mostly angry at their mom. They seem to be aggressively failing at this. Because I have my cake and eat it too. Are you dating a Red Pill guy? He's not actually a nice guy. He's just bitter and thinks that being nice means he gets an automatic girlfriend. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:06 PM
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If American Christians genuinely believed this, the "be debt-free" message would target boys and men equally What are you smoking? The the college campuses are nearly 70% female. How often do you find a Christian man in some fucking gender studies program? This doesn't need to be said because the boys already got the message. They target boys with things that are actually potential issues... like porn usage. Nobody is worried their boy is going to grow up and be a raging feminist. That might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:22 PM
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Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. How you interpret these verses is up to you. However, I am just going to suggest to you that NEVER does God ask a wife to submit to a husband in the breaking of God's commandments. It openly states that as a man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:12 PM
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What does "obey the word" mean? What does "submission" mean in this context? Again, if a husband demands that his wife worship satan... do you think this verse requires her to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:02 PM
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This is not what the Bible states. 1Peter 3:1 Likewise, wives, be in subjection to your own husbands, so that if any do not obey the Word, they may also be won without the Word by the conduct of the wives, Think about this verse in context. Look at what it tells the men in verses above and below it. 3 Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, 14 or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. 15…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:53 PM
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Fun fact, men don't actually want the debt-free virgin (or low body count) without tattoos. I am such a woman and am 34 and single. They see us as boring and largely ignore us for the tattooed, materialistic harlots or reject us because we won't put out as quickly as they'd like. Doesn't this says more about the men you spend your time around than anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:42 PM
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Except, being short is not a choice you make. Promiscuity, tattoos, and debt, are all choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:37 PM
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Let's be real: "debt-free" is a dog-whistle for "not college educated" in most American Christian circles. I wish these people would just say the regressive thing out loud. This says more about your unhealthy and weird view of college than it does them. It's like you think nobody can have a job unless they go $100k into debt first. The value of college drops significantly every year.... I think most of the Religious people have caught onto this a long time ago. Meanwhile all the secular women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:36 PM
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Which I dont understand because plenty of men have tattoo and when people see my tattoo, they say its goregous. I actually did some research on this. Tattoo type and placement are extremely important. If they signal some kind of group inclusion or status, men actually like them... things like that matter. However, as a whole, people both men and women who get lots of tattoos, tend to be people with body issues. The tattoo makes them feel as though they have greater control over these body issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:23 PM
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The virgin and tattoos are not so important. This might hold a greater weight with men of faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:16 PM
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You sure? I could have sworn she was reacting to the article and not just reacting to Christianity. I have a fairly limited knowledge of Christian Doctrine, and she is a bit off. If you look at how the religion is structured, men are told to submit to God. A man is often portrayed as God's wife. The wife is asked to submit to the husband, ONLY when he is submitting to God. Children are then asked to submit to their mother and father... again... only when the parents are in submission to God. So,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:12 PM
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I think twins and triplets are super hard, but kids with 2 years spacing 3 is max difficulty and at 4 it starts decreasing. I know families with 6 and 7 kids. The older kids are helpful and responsible... the kids entertain themselves and are coached to resolve their own disputes. The main issue is this parenting method that is super popular today, where you have just 1 or 2 kids and you devote every scrap of energy into them... it's clearly broken. These children are growing up emotionally frag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:18 AM
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I just feel that if we could make more women like you, and more men worthy of women like you... all of this junk goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:51 AM
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Yeah... I wasn't including the lazy dbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:01 PM
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There are millions of them. The issue is locating one that you find attractive. That is where most women are falling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:26 PM
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You are a good kid, and your family sounds good too. Interesting how so often good families have good kids. I'd love to be a stay at home dad, but that just isn't going to happen for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:23 PM
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I took a year off to care for my 2 year old. It took some time to get my energy levels up... I started waking up an hour before and running on the treadmill. I am an older dad so, this was a must. Afterwards, It wasn't a problem. I spent so much time running her around the park. She took afternoon naps that let me rest up. The cleaning wasn't anything difficult. I don't understand why other people have such an issue with it. Whenever she was done playing with something... she and I would clean u…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:20 PM
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A couple reasons. First, young men bitch about it a lot... and they think of it almost exclusively in terms of sex. That's interesting to the media. Second, telling women what they want to hear is incredibly profitable, and tell women uncomfortable truths not only doesn't pay well... it gets you shunned by ideologues. Look at the loneliness polling stats. Young women are only doing a few points better than young men. The older female population is very divided. Of the women with no kids the ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:46 PM
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I don't think so. If you look at what women find attractive in a man, a lot of those traits relate to self care. So, the men who are likely to live longer and healthier lives are the ones who get married. Also Spinsters are the lowest happiness group of women in every country. I think children temporarily reduce women's happiness, but greatly increase it long term. That's basically what you see in the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:52 PM
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Percieved Social Class is the most likely answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:47 PM
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Every relationship has a power dynamic. Being equals sounds great, but almost never works. I'm not going to fault people for wanting defined roles to guide them. I've tried equal relationships so many times the word gives me a headache. It always winds up with her trying to tell me what to do. Trust me, being responsible for stuff sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:42 PM
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Yes, absolutely! It's a horrible situation, particularly for women. The guys put very low effort into the relationship... even when they have children. It makes her feel very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:00 AM
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That would only be true if being submissive is BAD. In fact it's not. Men submit all the time to one another, to institutions, and even to women. So, this is just you being incredibly biased and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:38 PM
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You're wrong. Men marry promiscuous women all the time, they just tend to do it in their late 20s/mid 30s when they've all gone around enough and are ready to settle. They seem to also end up with a higher divorce rate. Not every man has full brain function. A lot of them are deeply damaged or emotionally scarred. Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:21 PM
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I think HoeMath is on a totally different level. He's already realized that there is a group of powerful people who are actively pushing men down and actively pushing women to be horrible and shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:35 PM
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Men and women both have short term and long term mating strategies. Sluts are a male short term mating strategy. THIS is why men tend to use it as an insult. What is absolutely foolish about women today is that they think men who they sleep with and men they don't feel differently about them. They don't. Men who sluts refuse get upset about it, but that doesn't change the fact that she is fundamentally a short term woman unworthy of investment. Today's sluts seem to think that the men they ARE s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:33 PM
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They always have seen them. Social media is the big difference, because before that, women had zero chance of dating these guys unless they were within the right social circle. Now all the social circles have kind of collapsed and they can bang these ladies on the sly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:44 PM
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This is completely true. Beauty is entirely subjective anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:46 PM
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I view that as a positive trait on your end. It's true I'm highly cynical. But can you agree that ideology affects behavior and mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:47 AM
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You can measure it, and it seems to be tied to an ideological worldview. If you don't like the truth, it's Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:50 AM
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Gen X... Yes just people. Gen Z... entitled, spoiled, narcissistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:27 AM
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NOT in the under 30 category. Stop applying Boomer logic to something new. If these women weren't fucking crazy then we would not be facing a population crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:21 AM
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Are you suggesting that it's just easier to turn men on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:08 AM
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My university was small. We had about 6,000. I was a rower. I think everyone who lived on campus knew me in some capacity. Because our school was small and rowing is not a career sport... we were all very smart. In fact, most of us were in STEM and very snooty about the social science majors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:16 PM
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, I was fine. Any guy I've actually wanted, I've never had a problem getting. There are many different levels of getting a guy... some are not worth it. But I get what you mean. I was a zero in high school, but in university I became one of the most popular guys in school. Captain of a sports team and all that stuff. So, I kind of get it.... not really but kind of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:48 PM
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I gave up on being shallow years ago. It's really liberating. I think men who are born less attractive struggle hard because they can't get over their own competitive desires. Listen, there is a difference between being beautiful and being sexy. I don't think a lot of people realize it. The latter is much more important than the former. That is my belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:29 PM
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It's really common with women who are not conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:23 PM
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There are other ways to make tall women feel petite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:38 PM
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In my opinion, I think most of the feminist logic can be summed up in one word: Munchausen. It's something that has changed over the years. I think what is going on today would horrify most of those who actually started it. I can see the Munchhausen analogy... but I think the connections to communism are so strong at this point that I really believe that the stupid people supporting it are doing it because they expect to gain power from it. So, I think this is an entirely political thing and it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:19 PM
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It exactly fits the definition Incorrect. In order to be a misogynist then you must dislike all women specifically for being women. Disliking a small subset of women who refuse to fit into your culture group is not misogyny. It's clear that you are using this definition loosely so that you can claim anyone who hold women accountable to a standard of behavior is a misogynist. The worst part is that you are literally relying on the increased empathy society gives women in order to get away with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:15 PM
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It's worse, but a different kind of worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:10 PM
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Then you are incorrect. What Conservative/Right Wing men do is hold women accountable to a more traditional behavior. They love the women who behave within these bounds, and greatly dislike the ones who do not. Disliking some women, based on how they act, not based on the fact that they are women is not Misogyny by your own definition. You should come up with a better term for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:02 PM
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We now have population data on men who can't get dates. 75% of them grew up in left wing homes... and 50% continue in left wing beliefs. The ones that attend a church weekly are about 5%... and there has been some suggestion that a portion of them are actually celibate gay men. I grew up as an atheist in a highly religious area. I even attended a private religious school for a while where I was the only non-believer. Religious boys are taught to be polite, respectful, but also to hold women to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:58 PM
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Define misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:50 PM
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I totally disagree. This used to be a topic of many flame wars within the Red Pill in the past. To be very brief on the topic, what you are missing is that between the 1800s and 1900s there was a huge shift within most mainline churches from Theological Orthodoxy towards Theological Liberalism and it caused some of the biggest churches to split. It's STILL causing churches to split. That change in theology almost always makes the church significantly more effeminate... because it has a view of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:49 PM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting to reject someone politely. It's not a people pleaser thing... it's a decent person thing. This just happens to be a situation where No Reply is an Answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:24 PM
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Sure, but the problem is that compatibility should be the largest part of attraction. That's why this situation blows up in people's faces all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:16 PM
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My reading comprehension is fine. There is no need to discuss who could land someone better looking because that’s not how it works if you have any kind of functional relationship. Well, in your opinion, how much of attraction is based in looks? I agree that no good relationship is based entirely on looks. However, that seems to be the most important initial criteria for which people evaluate one another as potential partners today. BUT, there is no reason why by bf could get a better looking wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:43 PM
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It really doesn't have the same connotation. As a general rule men don't marry women that cannot incite lust. On the other hand, women marry men for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:54 PM
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Your thinking is so warped, where what someone looks like is the highest consideration. It’s not. Talking about what someone “can get” is just gross, as if someone better looking on some objective scale makes someone a better or more desirable partner. Compatibility and attraction are the essential factors. You do not want to get into a discussion over who is more shallow today men or women... because women are shallow on an almost insane level at the moment. I would say in the history of the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:48 PM
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just because I am capable of being with someone taller with more chiseled features (who does not appeal to me in any way)? Gross. You probably are not capable... that is the problem the kids seem to be running into all the time today. There aren't many of these guys around and the demand for them is borderline insane... yet it seems like every woman thinks she can marry one. Your Boyfriend is probably near the very top of what kind of man you can reasonably get commitment from, and every year mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:08 PM
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If you don't have attractive physical qualities, then yes, you do have to make up for that by possessing other desirable qualities to attract women. I think what bothers me about this idea is that if you are an ugly man... what value is there in trying to date really beautiful women? Men need to stop acting like being shallow is a virtue. I know shallow women and they seriously limit their own lives, and while shallow men seem to have it better... it's still kills happiness. Being all bent out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:57 PM
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Every step of the way traditionally they are getting ownership of the woman. While different culture groups had different customs over time, this is an ignorant view of the marriage custom. Most cultures did not allow men to marry slaves, which is what you are suggesting. Instead it was a transfer of protection and support from a father to a husband, and an economic alliance between the two families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:36 PM
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First, women don't want to date these guys. Second, if they do date these guys and through that process the man becomes more confident and attractive... then he will often run off with someone better if he can. Especially if she is mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:09 AM
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What? Triangulation is what abusive moms do, creating a good kid, and bad kid to play them off each other. Red Pill doesn't do anything like this, and I know most of the techniques. Maybe you are thinking of Dred Game or something? When Red Pill suggests using jealousy, they are going to do things like ignore you and pay much more attention to your less attractive friend... but still openly flirt with you. They will compliment you in ways that could result in you comparing yourself to other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:06 AM
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I think the consequences of a man dating an abusive woman are not the same as the reverse. There just isn't a woman out there that is going to be able to take me in a fist fight. I've wrestled with more than my fair share... men just don't need to be concerned. Also, these guys are not looking at the women in particular as potential long term mates. Men also have a dual mating strategy... we just never talk about it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:35 PM
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Yeah, you are correct, but look there is a complete lack of empathy for everything men struggle with. Prostate cancer... who gives a fuck? Prison rape... Hahaha funniest shit ever! Wife cheating with another guy... you must have been a shitty husband. I mean it really doesn't matter the problem, there is absolute just zero empathy for men... unless you got chocked to death by a cop and that's only because people can exploit the shit out of your death to push whatever bullshit they already wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:47 PM
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I did this in high school as a part time job. They give you a list of most common issues and you just go down the list until you find the one that fixes it. "Please check and make sure it's plugged in"... used to drive people up the wall, but it's shocking how many times that was the problem. Even had someone call in once to complain their cupholder was broken. I remember being super confused and saying something like "Cupholder? Your PC does not have a cupholder." To which they responded "Yes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:34 PM
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It doesn't have to creep more into society... it's already here. Even worse, the assholes who run everything in our country are entirely beholden to this crap. It's the equivalent of putting Nazi's in charge of educating Jewish kids, of judging them, of determining hiring policies, of handing out government contracts and benefits. This goes WAY beyond just a couple of idiot journalists or crappy movies people can avoid. These people have a stranglehold on power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:02 PM
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I see most of these biases also being played out in media and government all the time. A famous example is when those Nigerian girls were taken hostage by Boko Haram. The media made a huge deal about it, even pushing fundraisers and popular twitter hashtags. But... there were also boys at that school. What happened to them didn't even get one mention in the media. When they did a poll asking people if they wanted to know the fate of these boys it was almost 100% interest. Yet, the journalists di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:26 PM
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If they are open racists... fuck yeah! If they are open sexists... Yes. A better question is... why do you think it's Ok to have people who openly hate men in positions of power over them? In particular education where little boys are absolutely defenseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:20 PM
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In your grandma's day, women were even less likely to be believed about things like rape, and if a woman had a reputation for sleeping around, all the accused man would have to say is "come on, she sleeps with everyone, not like I'd have to force her." Reputation and standing in a community was essentially a social credit score. Women who were known to be promiscuous would not be believed... however women who were known as virtuous would be immediately believed and the man involved could literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:08 PM
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Maybe the commenters are biased; maybe they're playing characters. In any case, extrapolating anything from there to ""society"" is a reach. I think it exposes the biases held by white left wing men and women. Since these folks are greatly overrepresented in government, education, entertainment, and journalism. I think this makes a very good argument that people who hold these beliefs should not be working in these fields or in major positions of power unless directly elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:32 PM
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Cool, now you know about a law that nobody enforces. Hmm... I wonder how much you could sue the state in terms of damages for lack of enforcement? I think you would need a class action to make this worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:43 PM
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Ok, so you believe in the first scenario. Hypergamy is relative, so if the vast majority of men BECOME high value, then they won't be high value anymore, but the new average. Hypergamy is relative TO THE WOMAN, not to other men. Of course the dating pool women swim in plays a role, but not at the level of core attraction. To work, the RP philosophy requires that most fail. So the advice is mostly useless. This is wrong thinking. The more men who raise up their levels, the more that 80/20 thing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:25 PM
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Warning: Physically dangerous levels of cringe. I don't see them actually talking to women. All of those guys are good looking enough they should be able to get dates. Of course they aren't going to be landing supermodels, but even the shortest ugliest one is better looking than the average woman out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:18 PM
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Bro, look at this sub. Damn good point actually. No, that's just the "no true Scotsman" argument. You can't claim red pill works by excluding everyone it doesn't work for. But there has to be a defining line doesn't there? I know there's this yearning for the golden age of red pill, but I was there when it got started. It has always been like this, from the very start. I was also there at the start. I joined in around 2008-2009 timeframe and I personally met and knew a lot of the prominent guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:07 PM
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LOL... Unfortunately, most criminals are both lazy and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:44 AM
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Yes, they can be and in fact this is. If you want to talk about how biased the court system is against men, then this would be a pertinent fact. I do agree that the number of cases where a judge makes the determination of custody is low. However, that's not the only place where bias takes place. Having been through a divorce that required lawyers and a judge, I know intimately how terrible the system acts towards men. Luckily, I did not have children at that time. The overall point though is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:42 AM
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Red pill is at its most basic is incoherent, the idea that the least successful, least experienced guys somehow know the most about what women want. I don't know where this idea comes from. I don't think I ever met a Red Pill man who has slept with under 20 women. The very foundation of the Red Pill is from Pickup Artists... who tend to be the most experienced. Because the Athletes and celebrities don't have to do anything to get women... so they don't know how it works... and when it doesn't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:36 PM
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Are those guys really red pill? I mean ditch Tate and instead go back and read Roissy at Chateau Heartiste. That guy was the beating heart of the Red Pill movement almost from the start. Even if you become "High Value" you should not be expecting women to just throw themselves at you, unless you are famous. Tate was basically kidnapping women and holding them against their will. How Red Pill is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:27 PM
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Which brings you to the second scenario, if only a small % of men can actually self improve to the point of becoming "high value" than the overall advice is useless to most men. I think the vast majority of men are capable of becoming high value. Why would this not be true? Dating advice is something that the average person can do. Here, if i assume that the average man can, then the result is bad, if i assume the average men can't, then the advice is useless. Hence the incoherence. We think of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:24 PM
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The only good thing about TRP is the self improvement advice which is also normie mainstream advice Normie advice is "Just be yourself" The rest is toxic bs that's more harmful than good. Nothing good can come up from inexperienced men giving advice to other inexperienced men and also shutting up any woman's input. You have mixed up Red and Black pills. They both have their negatives, but they are very different negatives. The easiest way to tell is Black Pill assumes women are the most shallow …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:19 PM
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but there is no set "self-sufficiency" age that is going to work for all kids. You know your kids better than anyone... or at least you should. You just go slow and give your kids as much agency as you can. I'm sorry but what I see from too many parents is this idea that the kid won't do it correctly, or will make a mess. I let my daughter make a mess of it, and then have her clean it up. It's Ok to fail. It's not Ok to give up. When she has a success, I praise her highly and she is very proud o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:40 PM
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How is the nurturing valued by men when nurturing encompass cooking and cleaning. I'm not entirely sure what you are using as a definition for Nurturing. I wouldn't put cleaning under that category, and cooking only nominally. Most of the things that I consider important on the side of nurture are emotional. The United States has a major obesity epidemic among children. Providing children with healthy and nutritious food is an essential part of being a caretaker. Obesity is a multifaceted proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:33 PM
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Because the minimum bill to fight for custody starts at several thousand dollars, and the man has to pay the woman's lawyer's fees, who coincidentally can drag out the custody fight indefinitely Where did you get this information? I'm just curious. there is no enforced legal repercussions for the woman if she moves with the child and completely ghosts the father of her children, even though it's technically kidnapping. Yes, my state passed a law that makes it illegal for whoever has custody of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:28 PM
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I think the key thread is that a lot of men don't feel necessary, and there is a massive amount of social messaging that reinforces this problem. Just to reinforce how much society at large thinks fathers are irrelevant, I looked around quite a bit for a study that shows WHY so many fathers don't parent and I couldn't find anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:07 PM
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I agree this is likely a significant driver of fathers abandoning their children, but I don’t think women are at fault for this. This isn't a "Women" at fault issue. This is an entire culture and society issue... so men are just as guilty. Men can fix this by working on their emotional intelligence and taking on more of the emotional work when raising children. Be there to celebrate their achievements and progress, show up to their games, help them with homework Stop. This is a bullshit pattern.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:05 PM
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The thing is, after having so many conversations with the men on this sub, others, the internet and real life, the culture surrounding this will be extremely hard to change because men don’t value being a caretaker of children, or anyone really. The government could easily coordinate this. They control virtually all education, entertainment, and have vast sums of money. It wouldn't be that difficult actually. I suspect the reason they don't do it is because the folks at the top have active fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:59 PM
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Please explain where that number comes from. It's beside the point anyway. When society as a whole keeps telling men they aren't needed, eventually men begin to act like they aren't needed. In the past, men felt needed as providers... and that was how they engaged with fatherhood. Feminists have taken that away for the most part, because they believed men weren't required. Now we have generations of fucked up useless kids, over a million of them lost just to opiates alone. It's time everyone cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:42 PM
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I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, but that would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:33 PM
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Father figure isn’t needed, this is just copium for trying to cover up men being utter trash because given the choice they’ll choose the path of least resistance This attitude is the problem. Most women are terrible parents and completely incompetent with children beyond age 3 or 4. The more we tell men they aren't needed, the more they believe that shit and walk away. YOU are the problem. The answer is to tell men that they are required, and not only demand they be in the child's life, but also…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:32 PM
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Yep. It's a pretty common theme on the custody and step parent reddits. Many will show back up to pay parent again when they get a girlfriend. I see that too. What conclusion do you draw from this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:24 PM
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If you really believe lawyers are the reason that men rarely seek time with their kids, then do you also believe that most divorce lawyers successfully deter most of their clients from divorce by telling them that divorce is an expensive waste of time and they could better spend their money on their family? Most divorces don't involve lawyers, but all divorces DO involve judges. I think every study on this subject ever done has shown a massive bias against fathers by judges... it's systemic. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:19 PM
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I think 3 states out of 50, and Florida is the biggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:09 PM
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i would love to understand the thought process surely they have some reason to say this that's not just misogyny? I read some studies on this. The core issue is that an absolutely enormous portion of the male population believe their only contribution to a child is financial. When they can't provide, they don't feel needed and walk away in shame. It's almost entirely cultural too. I don't know why, but men have a requirement to feel needed. This applies to a lot of different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:08 PM
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There's 0 reason for a father to not be involved after a divorce. Men don't file for custody. Less than 10% of divorce custody goes to court. Men choose to not be involved. It's not a mother's job to force a man to be a parent. We talk A LOT about deadbeat dads in the culture at large, but we never talk about WHY. I personally cannot understand this behavior from men and so I went and looked it up. It turns out that this issue is highly affected by financial status, but when you look at what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:56 PM
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Oh but guys have to be rich to have a home in the suburbs so could they use that to their advantage since women like money and status or so it's been said on here? There are so many variables. I live near a tech hub and yeah there are some suburbs that require lots of money, and some that are more working class and affordable. The big city absolutely requires more money, and the women are much more expecting big money. I think a good chunk of women work on this, "I see it, so I should be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:20 PM
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I'd tell them the same thing 🤷🏻‍♀️ if they don't like it, they can choose not to listen to me. I'm not here to proselytize. But I'm not going to change my advice because of individual experience. I get it. It's just a situation where advice need to be highly tailored to the individual in order to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:55 PM
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If you think the average woman has faced mass rejection... that's just delusional. You are unique in both how you approach dating, and in how you think about relationships. Perhaps unique is too strong a word her... niche might describe it better. The point being that your advice for dealing with rejection works Ok for women similar to yourself, but comes across as obtuse at best when talking to men. A guy who has 10 rejections and 8 yes's... all you have to do is focus on the ones that say Yes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:21 PM
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The problem is that the people who think that women were just breeding slaves are also functionally immune to discussion. Any attempt will end in a barrage of personal attacks, gaslighting, feeling-based interpretation of dynamics and regurgitated talking points of feminism with no understanding of fundamentals in sight. 100% true, but that should tell anyone and everyone who is listening something. They have an emotional tie to this lie, which is about things that happened before they were born…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:05 PM
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The assumption here is that you are like other women. To my mind that's like comparing Jaguars to housecats... but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:48 PM
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I mean look, you got the meth-heads and trailer park types, but filter that out and boy does the quality increase rapidly from there. Women in the big cities are almost all part of that Urban Monoculture... and those women are really for a particular niche of man. The suburbs are insane. The competition is beyond crazy, the absolute best women are only available by social circle. I really think this is where most of the misery between people exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:39 PM
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Rejection is not a referendum on your sexuality. It's the answer to your question, "Is this woman worth my time and effort?" Not affective when facing large amounts of rejection. You can tell yourself this crap all day long, but the rejection will still get in your head and wreck you. My strong suggestion is to instead focus on very small wins. Yes, she rejected me, but I made her smile. Yes, she rejected me, but I noticed her friend was making really good eye contact with me. Stuff like that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:15 PM
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Let it be okay to say "this sucks" and grieve that we don't live in a healthy civilization where people's needs (in this case their social needs) are being met. It is my understanding that most people throughout history were introduced to potential spouses by their family. Marriage and romance had absolutely nothing to do with one another. Instead marriage was all about family alliances and pooling resources. For that matter in an initial marriage looks played very little role and society at lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:11 PM
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It's not that easy. The more you experience it, the more it piles up and begins to get into your head. Most women can't really relate, but when you point out that it's fairly similar to having a problem getting the job you want it makes more sense. It's not just the rejection itself it's the work you put into trying, having hopes dashed time and again. For me, I think it took about 600 rejections and then it just didn't bother me anymore and that feeling was absolutely liberating. After that, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:28 PM
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Small towns are shrinking in population, most of the people you may want to be with are already taken BUT.... the women who are available tend to be much higher quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:15 PM
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TLDR: Guys who don’t like hooking up should still be assessing if the woman they’re dating has a carnal interest in him. This could be assessed by her reaction and intensity when kissing. This could be assessed by if you guys go out dancing, how sexy and intimate the dancing or physical intimacy throughout the night on the town is. This could be assessed by her giddily holding your hand and snuggling up to you when you’re out and about or sharing a booth at a restaurant or watching a movie on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:01 PM
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You represent about 20% of the adult female population in the US. While I encourage men to look for unicorns here, because our unicorns are the best. No guy who has his stuff together should be wasting his time taking most of our women seriously. If you take the entire world as a whole into consideration, our average man is upper middle, and our average woman is below bottom barrel in terms of the things each sex is looking for in a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:59 PM
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If you go to the ancient world, a wife's primary duty is straight up to respect her husband and follow his lead. Even in the traditions outside of the Mesopotamian area where we have lots of written documentation. By the way. There are a TON of ancient cultures where queens were allowed to have lovers outside of their husband. In fact the Greeks in the time of Alexander the Great ran across a powerful kingdom in India where the king had come to power simply by being extremely tall and handsome. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:23 PM
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i'm not familiar w this, i thought switzerland was rich? The core finding of the study is that children who are placed into daycare develop anxious avoidant attachment disorders, ADHD, and a whole raft of other mental health disorders. It seems that having your mom or dad leave you alone with strangers especially within the first 3 or 4 years of your life is creating life long mental health problems. and medical costs people do have to pay shouldn't bankrupt anyone, at the very least not anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:29 AM
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yeah i think its wild that on top of the labor of pregnancy, deliver, breastfeeding and being the primary parent during those early months/years women also have to pay for the costs associated with all of this (less so after the child is born bc at least child support exists then). imo the costs of labor and delivery should be paid for by the bio father only as the woman is doing sweat equity. The sad thing is that a lot of guys just can't afford that, or aren't' willing to make the required sac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:34 PM
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Dating apps are a business and like most things the customers are the men and the product is the women. I'm not sure I would want to participate in something where essentially I'm the commodity being sold and I don't get a cut, but to each their own. I see that they have a new wave of dating apps coming with all sorts of different wing dings... it's possible one of them will solve some key problems, but I doubt it. I did some hiring off this new TikTok style resume system where applicants must p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:13 PM
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Hahaha... I love your links. This guy slept in a ceramic jar in the market? Now that's wild!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:02 PM
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I think this assumption says more about you than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:00 PM
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This just seems so devoid of empathy for these people. This couple is going through one of the hardest things you can I think it's just easy to believe addicts when they tell you that they don't do the hard stuff to gain your trust. It's something that people want to believe, and it's easy to fall for if you havn't been around people in that situation before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:56 PM
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They may exist without a legal identity their entire lives. For those 18-28, you are talking about 6 years on average. Once they get hooked on opiates that's about how long they have to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:22 PM
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Your commentary on love as a feeling is hard hitting. The feeling of love is not productive. Love needs to be more than words, more than feelings. Love needs to be action. It needs to be a physical choice you make every day, and sometimes that choice is going to require you to put yourself second, and it's not going to be easy to do, but you must do it anyway no matter how hard. Anything less than that is just temporary madness. the woman is sacrificing her financial security in order to be preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:19 PM
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To be entirely blunt, it's all bullshit, just like marketing. It's designed to make something look much cooler than it actually is and make you want it. The thing is that a lot of women pursue self defeating and ridiculous dating strategies that are very easy to game. The fact that none of the guys under 30 even care to put in the effort to fake it anymore says something kind of profound about the quality of woman.... or maybe about the quality of man... or more likely both. I'm just going to bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:45 PM
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The question was more so more akin to, can you (as an example of a man) be happy if you had everything else you needed in a relationship if you never had sex with that person? I think most men are going to agree with me in saying that the reason this is occurring matters deeply. I don't think women are any different, in fact I suspect they are even less tolerant of no sex marriages in general unless they have some kind of medical issue. If your wife comes down with a medical condition that makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:47 PM
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I don't know. Let me put it to you in 14 year old boy terms. The skinny girls I knew tended to be flat and not particularly curvy. I also really liked taller women. The heavier girls tended to have more curves... and we are talking S curves not just the hourglass figure. So, it was those girls I found the most attraction to at the start. I had very little exposure to TV or media before age 12, my parents just didn't allow it. I think... I really think that media played as big of a role as my fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:36 PM
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how would this help you stay in power? The most enduring strategy for people in power to maintain that power is what the Roman's called "divide et impera" Divide and Conquer, or Divide and Rule. One Robber Baron of 1800s America once quipped "The best thing about poor people is you can pay one half to shoot the other half". I'm not sure that quote is real, or was propaganda, but either way the sentiment works. you'd have most men upset that they can't mate/partner. those men are less likely to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:29 PM
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I don’t know about that. Women were expected to get married and have kids but men are the ones who are specifically shamed for not having sex. I guess it just depends on the era and culture we are talking about. This is absolutely true for today. I think in the past, the celibate man who dedicated himself to religion had status. Actually Sir Isaac Newton was intensely proud of being celibate his whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:48 PM
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this is called intersectional feminism It's a fancy word for Realpolitik. I have read the works of feminists from the 1st wave and I know exactly how they felt about black people. It's only once those black people become politically exploitable do white feminists begin talking about "intersectionality". Just look at the scandal brewing with Robin DeAngelo. It seems she very likely plagiarized her entire body of work from a handful of African American undergraduates. White feminists have complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:44 PM
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I wouldn't expect a guy to keep randomly pointing out women he's attracted to for no reason. THIS is a very interesting point. Essentially you are thinking of these guys as treating you like a woman... when in actuality they are talking to you as if you were another man. If I'm talking to a woman who I am treating as a woman, then this is a request to be my wing. If I'm talking to another man, it's a check to see if my choice in women is divergent from the norm. This is how men formulate what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:09 PM
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You are changing your argument. I have been to those countries where women wear burkas. I've actually dated women from those cultures and I know what their lives are like. I know men who live in those culture and I know what dating and marriage is like for them... and I also know how powerful class distinctions are to them. The way you talk makes me feel like you don't have a fucking clue. The fact that life in the past was absolutely fucking brutal and difficult just proves the fact that in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:01 PM
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You are thinking about this all wrong. The advice you were given and how you took it don't match up, and that is essentially why you are struggling. Perhaps you lean asexual, or you haven't really spent time with a man that is highly attractive to you.... or it's possible your anxiety has gotten in the way of your feelings and enjoyment. A good relationship will have regular sex as a part of it. If this isn't happening then you are going to find yourself faced with all sorts of nasty problems in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:25 PM
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That isn't a traditional gender role dynamic unless I'm reading this incorrectly. Traditionally the work of maintaining intimacy was on the wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:58 PM
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One of the more fascinating things you will find in our modern culture is the view we hold of Romeo and Juliette. I have no doubt that Shakespeare intended the story to land with women differently than it does with men, but at it's core the message is the dangers of lust based underaged romance. The danger of trying to choose your own wife. Modern people just don't seem to be able to get that message... it can't penetrate the stupidity of the modern brain. We see it as some great romance and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:42 PM
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I gave you several very solid examples that prove your theory of history is simply incorrect. That the reality is class has always played the most impactful role in determining the rights and life trajectory of people and gender is not even secondary, it's tertiary. Tribe or ethnicity played a much larger role than gender in this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:16 PM
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Men are more free than ever before to live outside traditional gender norms and roles, which is a direct by-product of feminists fighting for women. This only applies to Gay men, and even for them this is very limited. Actually, gender roles are not only more rigid today than ever before for men, it's also significantly harder to live up to them. For example, 80% of women will not date a man who makes less than they do... meanwhile women are consistently making more money than men. Now, you post…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:20 AM
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...no? "If you make it so white people aren't in charge of everything, then the only option is for black people to be in charge of everything!" See how ridiculous that is? If you say that you don't want white people in charge anymore, that means removing them from positions of power and replacing them with people who are not white. So, if there was a binary of ethnic groups then we know exactly who you would be putting in charge. This only seems ridiculous because we don't have an ethnic binary.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:06 AM
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F. D. Signifier on YouTube His primary audience is women. The guy says openly racist stuff, and is SO political that it automatically turns most men off. This guy will not have any kind of long term positive effect. He's just another guy who profits from telling women shit they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:53 AM
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Yeah because men are going to the right in droves, they didn't cared until it start to become a problem. I don't think they understand how big this is... because in the polling data the boys are calling themselves non-political, but they have a very strong preference. What I find the most interesting is that White and Hispanic boys are hard shifting the most, and dragging some black boys along with them. What has been holding the right back for decades is being entrenched among ethnic lines. I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:48 AM
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but men have already benefited as a by-product. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:40 AM
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Feminism has been unambiguously clear that the patriarchy hurts men and everyone stands to benefit from dismantling it. So, if Patriarchy is where men are in charge of things, then... Matriarchy is where women are in charge? Because if you dismantle the "Patriarchy" the only thing opposite that you can put in it's place would be Matriarchy. I can look at the Matriarchal systems we currently have and nothing is more horrible and oppressive to men. So, what I hear is that you us to join with them …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:39 AM
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You're attacking a straw man. Think about it. If you are in the .01% that actually wields power. What better way to maintain it, than by funding a group of man hating crazy bitches to lie to everyone? Not only do you get an army of fucking flying monkeys, but you also get to batter down the average man in a way that leaves him unable to gather together and resist... because it's not you oppressing him, it's the batshit crazy asshole women of his own class. It's really fucking brilliant if you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:32 AM
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Women didn’t have freedom, they were baby factories dying of childbirth and having their babies and kids die at an insane rate due to poor nutrition and living conditions. Do you think this is true of female nobility? The ancient Babylonian kings would install their daughters as Temple Priestesses and they would rule the Religious system with an iron fist. Male priests who crossed them could be demoted or fed to lions at her discretion. We have a very famous story that is recounted by several au…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:27 AM
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Look up the Theologian Peter Lombard. I'm not writing a thesis paper. I could give you all the citations in the world and it's not going to change your mind, because you didn't arrive at your conclusions from a logic for fact. For you this is simply something that justifies your sour disposition and hatred of men. I think it's important enough to point out that I know you are wrong, and you know that you are wrong. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:47 AM
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Women don't deserve traditional masculinity. Traditional masculinity is ruinous. Traditional masculinity doesn't put up with bullshit. If the majority of men become traditionally masculine, then we will change the laws and we will no longer be forced to tolerate the insanity. LOL fuck that. The idea of amassing power is moronic. Why are you catering to women who love the power and not the man? Great absolutely awesome way to supercharge the culture of women dating to swell their Instagram cred. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:13 AM
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Let me give you an example. Have you ever wondered why in the East women marry whoever their parents set up for them, in more tribal situations you often marry the man who kidnaps or abducts you... ect. Yet, for seemingly 1000 years at least European women have been essentially picking their own husbands? So, the medieval catholic church, based on their interpretation of the Bible began implementing "exchange of consent" as the basis for marriage. The concept itself is revolutionary in a way tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:10 AM
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Someone that put together, and assuming we are close friends since he's asking my advice, I'd take him out myself to local hot spots and do my best to be a wing woman. I've done this with guys a lot over the years. If I've learned any one thing its that social anxiety and lack of confidence are almost always the primary issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:45 AM
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Online dating is just marketing. I think women tend to understand this inherently and the majority of men seriously don't get it. You have to think of yourself as a product or a brand to sell, and once you start to do that everything clicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:43 AM
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Men made the decisions, not women. And other men benefited, which is why they go along with it. This is not only incorrect, it displays childlike ignorance. I've never heard of a male-led and male-created feminist movement - have you? Ancient Greece had several, as did the Babylonians, Persians, Chinese. We know the Celts in at least 4 different places had an expansion of women's rights, as did the Vikings. Perhaps the most significant expansion of women's rights in world history was done by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:53 PM
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I'm still juggling two and deciding if I want to add in a third as a FWB. It's tempting because her personality and interests, but as a negative she also college age. Thank you for asking! I should add that after all that exposition. I feel the best choice for president at this time would be Harris. Trump has this chaos and uncertainty factor that I really dislike. While I don't like either of them... I dislike Harris a lot less. How is life treating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:09 PM
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LOL... If you think men had agency and self-determination over the last 5,000 years of recorded history then you are horrifically ignorant on the subject. It means you don't understand the core structure of human society, nor do you understand why it's almost always structured in the same way all across the globe. In addition, "men" have never made a unilateral decision anywhere ever. Pretending that one man who is in power making a decision is the same as all men making that decision is sexist …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:02 PM
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Next thing you’ll tell me Kamala Harris is a communist, lmao. I can't really put Harris in a box. Her oft repeated quote "what can be, unburdened by what has been" is essentially a quote from Karl Marx, but when she tells the story it's coming through the coconut tree analogy and it's her mothers words, not Marx. I think the best way to understand Harris is to think of her as a blend of Caribbean Plantation Owner culture, with Hardline Brahmin Indian Caste System. This is why she does stuff like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:51 PM
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You can get an ancestry test at a very young age. It just takes saliva. I have a friend who waited until his son was 4 because before that he couldn't get the kid to spit into the tube, but either way it doesn't matter. To my thinking if a woman has a fling or something behind my back and I never know about it... the harm done is low. If I go through life thinking a child is mine and it isn't... that is a physical and psychological violation that has no equal. So, even when you are 100% sure you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:34 PM
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The most common reason for someone to ask for a DNA test is to determine ancestry, and predisposition to medical ailments. So far we have about 40 million people having done testing for these two reasons in the US alone... that's over 10% of the population. I've never seen a woman throw a fit over this kind of test... except once, and that turned out to be for a damn good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:07 PM
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I've said this once and I will say it again. I did a DNA test on both my daughter, myself, and her mom, plus my grandmother, and both of my parents for the purpose of determining ancestry. Nobody threw a fit about this, and if someone does... that's a big fucking red flag. Straight up, any woman who throws a fit over DNA testing has been doing some shit on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:55 PM
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I just don't see why OP insists liberal men can't have muscles. But I won't bother engaging with him on those points because he is clearly just PO'd at this specific Tik Tok girl I have a position where I fit into social circles of both ideological groups... and I typically date very liberal women. What I see is that men tend to self select into these groups. Men who fit into traditionally masculine molds are much more likely to move conservative, and thus they value lifting weights and things l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:17 PM
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Something like 13% of men failed to have sex last year for whatever reason. That means almost 9/10 guys are dating and having sex just fine. We are talking about social standing and economics, and sex is downstream of those things. So we can just ignore that as a topic. I'm a lot less interested in who is getting laid than I am who is getting into STEM courses, who is getting promoted at work, and who is being given socially positive messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:12 PM
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What we think of as Looks isn't 100% genetic. A lot of it comes down to self care routines, access to good fashion, time to spend at the gym, healthy eating habits. Poor men do not tend to have any of these things going on. I had a big jump in attractiveness when I got my teeth redone in veneers after a motorcycle wreck. It cost $12,000 at the time and is closer to $20,000 today. Think about how much money women spend on ass implants, breast implants... a ton of those really hot women you see on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:08 PM
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Yes, and that makes perfect sense when you think about it. You know that they release polling data on men who cannot get dates and found that about 75% of them were raised in liberal households and 50% of them currently hold ideologically left leaning views. Just slightly over 10% report being raised in conservative homes, and 25% report having conservative leaning views. I think that data can be interpreted many different ways, and also it doesn't identify a cause, but the data is very interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:00 PM
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Redistribute the means of reproduction! In the US women are very much flirting with communism, which has an almost 200 year history of eventually deciding that child production is a resource and that the government thus has a right to distribute it as they see fit. I once read a story of how Mao had something like 3000 girls, many under 16 that he kept as lovers/concubines. Of course the PRC doesn't like this story, but it's been confirmed by multiple sources including some of the women. Lenin, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:55 PM
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Life always has losers. It sucks, but that’s a fact of life. The number of losers is way too high and increasing way too rapidly. Also, any culture/society that treats their losers as poorly as we do, does not deserve to survive. Eventually, we will get what we get that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:46 PM
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It's relevant to your social status, which is relevant to your sexual appeal. Additionally, if you spend 8 years in a system that daily shits on you, tells you that you aren't good enough, and kills your future success... that will destroy your confidence which is also an essential element of sex appeal. So, even guys who think female attraction is all Looks, Money, Status... failing at work and school destroys all three of those. You won't have the money to upkeep your looks, you won't have mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:41 PM
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You mean why did Julius Caesar fight for the rights of Plebs? The answer is typically power. The guys who want to monetize it are useless, because they just want to make their money and then dip out. The men who seek power understand that money and power are not one in the same. Jack Ma was one of the richest men in the world, and he probably got to thinking that gave him some power, until Chairman Xi imprisoned him, beat his ass, and took his company away. We want someone who actually cares abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:37 PM
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Like all things, there is a certain amount of truth in the statement. If I think about political ideology with the men I know and how well they do with women... the most successful and the least successful are my very liberal friends. By far the largest group are the unsuccessful guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:29 PM
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Are you saying the sisterhood is narcissistic and emotionally manipulative because women aren't enmass pressuring each other to date... you? Men more like you, and less like the men they are dating? I think it's easy to try and push this back onto OP. That's a very lazy way to avoid addressing the real question. Do female friend networks tend to sabotage otherwise good relationships with decent men? From what I see, some do, some don't, and it really is heavily impacted by the type of friends yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:24 PM
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In the Red Pill we have kind of conditioned ourselves to think of it as a women choosing stupidly issue. However, what if you are looking at the problem all wrong? What if it's instead the complete and utter cratering of masculinity among normie men? If you think of power and status as being sexy... and your average normie male is a hyper submissive, zero status guy. Maybe what needs to happen is average men need to band together and collectively put their feet down on Feminism HARD. Once your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:10 PM
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Wait... why are those 10 million ex-cons and 1million sex offenders not options for women? I don't think I've ever met a guy with a serious criminal record that didn't have kids. I think the guys who aren't options are the socially awkward guys who aren't doing well at school or work. Really though the whole topic is difficult to quantify. I mean 80% of women say they want a man who makes more money than they do. So, we make this assumption that this is a hard line they won't cross, but in my ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:39 PM
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There are pro's and con's to everything, and dating older women definitely has a lot on the pro side, but it also tends to have some negatives as well. I just suggest that any guy who jumps into this kind of relationship do so with a full understanding of the dynamics that they are getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:28 PM
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First, he's talking about PPD women not IRL women. Second, these situations usually come down to people just talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:09 AM
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That isn't really true. The inherent power difference in the dating system means it's not really mutual in that way. The dynamic is most often like an employer interviewing you. Your whole thought process skips all the steps required to build attraction... only then does it become mutual, which is why women are almost clueless about the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:42 AM
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LOL... you are talking to a bunch of guys, this is basically our daily experience in the country. If your wife falls down and gets any kind of major injury they are going to assume right up front that the man is a abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:49 AM
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which is kinda fucked right? It's 100% stupid. like if each person gets their discretionary money every month and the guy buys fishing poles and beer (or a boxing gym membership and MMA fight entry fees -- whatever) and the other partner saves theirs, why would the spouse that already spent their money get to enjoy the discretionary money the other person saved? YES! It's stupid for just this exact reason. This is kind of a radical idea, but we need to create a whole new raft of 10 or more diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:46 AM
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God. Damnit. I really hoped it would have ended differently. It sounds like one of those cheesy love stories, but in a good way. I know the guy she married pretty well. He went to University with me. She actually met him when she came out to visit one time sophomore year. His great grandfather started a beverage company back in the early 1900s that was eventually purchased by Coca Cola. He is tall, like 6'3" and very athletic. His family didn't have tons of money anymore, but the name is very re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:59 PM
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I don't think you can make that jump. For one thing it's a contract. You actually have to care about him and his life. You can't just demand everyone care about you and not reciprocate. I find this attitude very common where I live today, both men and women have it. They expect everyone to care about them without caring about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:37 PM
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You can't hold a secret stash of money apart from your spouse unless it was mutually agreed upon in a prenup, at which point it isn't secret. I think this might help you do something like move out, or be something you can use short term, but it's going to hurt your case to a judge and you are going to have to split it as a marital asset. Maybe a divorce attorney may have a more informed view, but that's my hot take on the question. I don't see much of this in common with paternity testing, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:31 PM
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With that said, I was constantly rejected, and sometimes terribly. So, it's not like it was easy. Teenage boys as a general rule are some of the worst human beings you will ever meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:45 AM
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And male losers are not usually doing that for any women because they lack the confidence. My friend was definitely a loser, and he got shot down by the most overweight and least attractive girl in school. I remember she told him that he wasn't her type... which blew my mind at age 16 because I didn't think she could have a type. Maybe he was too tall and skinny. He went on to be one of the guys who created Hulu. Weird taste in women though... spent 10 years with a woman 30 years older than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:43 AM
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There are many women who are like I was. You just don't see them. I had a crush on this girl that was a huge loser as a teen. I was too afraid to tell her. I really thought she would shoot me down. Actually... she probably would have shot me down. LOL. Also, I had this female friend who was really overweight. Best personality of any girl in the school, smart, witty, kind, outgoing... ect. She gave me a love letter senior year by slipping it into one of my books. I brought it back to her after I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:40 AM
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4th degree tears are about 1-3% of first time mothers, but this is almost always the rectum. I can't remember the stats but clitoral tears are very rare... and I think women who don't control gestational diabetes are at the highest risk. Also.... and I don't think people know this... white women have babies with significantly larger heads regardless of who the father is. My sister has a kid that's half african and despite the fact that they tend to have the smallest head size as babies... her ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:52 PM
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I will say it. I am selfish. Respect! Not everyone needs to have kids. Find the other connections that bring you joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:21 PM
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I think a much bigger issue is that men are permanently treated like predators when around young children. Plenty of guys will deal with low pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:04 PM
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women with partners and children also share their incomes and don't keep it to themselves. I think this only applies to children. If you have ever worked in the service industry, then it's well known that women generally don't tip. I've known some women who were incredibly generous, but that's because they worked in service themselves at some point. I've never really seen a woman just share her income with a man unless the man is insanely better looking than her and wouldn't stick around otherwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:02 PM
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Even 100 years ago this wasn't really a thing. For the most part women had primary control over the domestic sphere. This is why so many guys became drunks and abusive... they felt completely powerless in every aspect of their lives. The one thing I hate about feminists more than anything is their absolute full blown dishonesty and lies about the past, and how they use this bullshit to justify opression of men today. I remember having this conversation with one years back and I finally had to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:33 PM
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you have no idea how terrifying it is to be a woman in general. I've been thinking a bit about this over time. The women who are today in their 70s, I knew them well 30 some years ago and they weren't terrified. In fact they took risks that were just dumb as hell looking back on it.... and they lived in a WAY more dangerous time. How much of you being terrified is just personal delusion and how much is justified? Don't me wrong here, I basically don't trust anyone, unless I'm practically forced …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:48 AM
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Performing sexual acts on a specific person that can't be refused can't be considered a reasonable requirement of any job especially when this was not advertised and is targeted at specific people while others aren't expected to do Most jobs require you to do all kinds of stuff that are not in the job description and aren't reasonable. I've got friends who worked at Amazon and most of the women there would much rather have sucked a dick than go through the bullshit that place puts onto employees…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:41 AM
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Why would you expect the women to be conservative? Conservative (college educated) women have become pretty rare. Even the seemingly traditional, conventionally attractive sorority girls I dated in college were all liberal. I don’t mean like radical liberals, but democratic voting, pro-choice, etc. Yeah, maybe conservative is the wrong word. I basically just mean not one of those Woke Cultists out there waving a Hamas flag chanting death to the Jews while also claiming Trump is the next Hitler. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:20 AM
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Comfortable with himself = Confidence. What I really hate about the Blue Pill folks is how they communicate things to young impressionable boys. I WAS one of those boys once, and their messaging is so damaging. I think when I was a kid a lot of Blue Pillers were Religious, but today they are almost exclusively feminists. This idea that women want emotional vulnerability in a man... it's just so poorly communicated that I think they do it on purpose. Do you know how this played out in my marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:57 PM
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Sure, but think about it like this... how many guys would sleep with Jodi Arias? I mean maybe they would take the risk, but you gotta fuck her while she holds a knife and you have all your cash sitting on the nightstand next to the bed. Would you take that deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:47 PM
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A 6'5 man with blonde hair and blue eyes does not have to be approachable. Smiling would not make an average, black man approachable. This is tone deaf These two guys are going to be attractive to different women. The tall white guy is going to pull conservative Asian and White women primarily. The black guy is going to fucking kill it with left wing white women, latinas, black women... as long as he can stand out from other black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:43 PM
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But seriously, there are masculine ways of moving and women will lose attraction to you if you don't move in those ways. There is a reason Mister Rogers wasn't a sex symbol in the 1970s, and that guy is fucking hyper masculine compared to the soy boys I see today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:37 PM
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I think you need to go back and ask her some follow up questions, because you are missing the big picture here. Is she siting attraction to movement because of the physical flow of it, or because what she assumes it says about his personality, or because of what it may suggest about his status? People need to stop talking past each other and if you want to understand what women are talking about... you need to force them to get detailed, otherwise they just drop ridiculous shit like this and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:02 PM
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It depends on the age. Older guys like me are much more likely to have better looking partners than ourselves. It's reversed in younger men. Just talked to this guy at the Home Depot yesterday who I thought was shopping with his mom... and turned out it was his GF. Lucky I didn't say anything. People who actually partner up through apps tend to be very similar in look. People who meet in person or through friends... much more varied in who looks good. Studies show this to be true as well. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:54 PM
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The guys who say this have never done pickup, or they have done the lazy bullshit type where they basically just walk up to a woman and ask for sex, then get rejected. Old school Red Pill used to describe this as "Frame" as in your frame of mind. The first thing is be non-threatening, and the best way to do this is to have a fun and playful energy. Only once that is established can you actually begin building attraction... and for a small handful of women that IS a big part of the attraction... …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:46 PM
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Actually, there is this thing where brothers marry the same woman. It tends to bond the men together, and typically the woman finds it less favorable than a multiple wife situation, but that's with old gender roles involved. If I remember it was Tibet or a culture nearby it. So there is a word for this... I just don't remember it. It's a form of Polyandry but less formal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:24 AM
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Please explain how it's inappropriate to answer "when/how" with "when/how." Please also explain how answering "when/how" with "when/how" is controlling and abusive. Men wanna be victims so badly OMG Stop being a dick. There are a lot of guys out there who will listen to the junk you say and take it seriously. If you tell them to kill themselves... they will actually start thinking about it. If you want to tell guys to be BETTER on approach that is very helpful. A lot of guys don't know how to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:29 PM
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Poly? Or just trying out new things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:07 PM
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Your examples are pretty extreme, the first being rape, and the second being just weird. Yeah, but it happens and women need to be aware of it because it almost always plays out like a gangrape rather than a pro being paid a bunch of money to service a group of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:04 PM
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Moderate Unease? I had this happen to a friends little sister. Her parents over sheltered her... like way over sheltered. The first chance she got she's 17 and sneaking around with a boy from the football team of a nearby university. They started sleeping together, but you know she can only sneak out of the house a few times a month and he's clearly got other girlfriends. Anyway one time he takes her out and they show up at a house with 20 of his team mates... and he full court presses her to sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:01 PM
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Um... I've seen this stuff happen before and it's typically used as an extreme male bonding ritual. So, you are going to see this in gangs, athletic teams, frats... ect. That's the core of it. In old times, this was super common among military soldiers after taking a civilian area. In the bronze age and before the soldiers would pick a pretty boy to share, but in more modern times choosing women came more into fashion. Some places the soldiers still prefer boys. The only place I've ever encounte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:42 PM
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Not all answers are appropriate. I mean if someone asks your thoughts on Oct 7th and you just respond with "I hate Jews".... someone needs to point out to you that this is not an acceptable way to think. If you prefer not to be approached, I get that. Nothing wrong with that. If you tell men they shouldn't approach women... that's hateful and not an acceptable way to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:29 PM
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Our counselors were super helpful for some things. But my female friends and I all got asked whether we wanted to get married and have kids...my male friends did not. On the one hand, I can see how a desire to have a family might impact the kind of career you WANT, but on the other hand it doesn't affect the kind of career you can have. So, I think I would judge the question based on what came after it rather than on the question itself. As for my experience. I was one of the school top scores f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:25 PM
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At the top it's usually about 50/50, but as a whole most government agencies are 60%-90% women. The IRS for example is about 75% female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:07 PM
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Polite rejection is good for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:10 PM
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Polite rejection is good for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:09 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:09 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:09 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:08 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:08 PM
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Bro anytime Henry Superman Cavill says he not taking the risk of approaching a woman in fear of a sexual harassment charge than obviously there’s a precedent for it He is a celebrity. Most women come to him. Also, his reputation is his career, so even rumors can cost him millions and millions. You are not Henry Cavill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:59 PM
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Pushing back on what?? Being expected to behave in public and treat woman as people? This whole "don't approach women in public spaces" is a power trip for low quality women. Men need to just slap this shit down very hard. Talking to people is one thing, harassing them is something else Men should follow the law, and be polite. Any guy who responds in anger at polite rejection needs to be slapped in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:56 PM
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I'm a totally different person today. I also wound up in an abusive controlling relationship. I don't think that I would be a healthy person for her to be with in a romantic capacity, but I do miss the friendship. Sometimes people just miss one another, and that's how life goes. I'm wealthy and happy. I know she remarried 4 years ago. By some freak twist of fate I'm in touch with the woman her new husband is having a long term affair with...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:53 PM
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I can tell you a couple of things that have a large long term impact. The first is that if everyone around you is dating, but you get treated like you are invisible, that winds up being a huge hit to your self confidence. So big in fact that you are going to find boys just pulling into themselves and shutting down, or jumping at the first girl who bats her eyelashes at him and winding up dealing with an abusive relationship. The second part is that boys develop slower than girls. A 16 year old g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:38 PM
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And I understand the appeal of the first group. I don't however understand the appeal of the second, but it is visible even in adult life. Power in any form is sexy to one woman or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:24 PM
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When friends have expressed their feelings for me, I felt guilt. Guilt in my inability to reciprocate, for hurting their feelings, for turning them down. I found out years after that one of my best friends who I was madly in love with, was also madly in love with me too. We completely missed each other because I was so absolutely convinced that I was in the friendzone that I missed every single sign... like bright neon flashing signs. She wound up marrying this crazy abusive guy. She had to basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:21 PM
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But if he wants to have some success, he should be with a group of friends instead of a loner seeking a person or group to attach himself to without a welcome. This almost never get's mentioned, but it's so important and is amazing advice. Also, what you say about safety should be top of any guys mind. Those guys who think they need to come across as severe and intimidating in order to be perceived as masculine are not helpful. It's much more important to be warm, calm, fun, and kind. Well, actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:02 PM
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Actually, No we don't have to comply with this power play. If you don't want to talk to people stay in your house. A few years back this social media influencer lady got a guy tossed out of a gym for "staring" at her. The problem is that he is legally blind. So we know this bullshit is just a power play. One of the things we used to teach guys in the Red Pill are the local and state laws, also lawyers who specialize in these kinds of things. The law is actually on a man's side as long as he is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:50 PM
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Going forward a man should only start a conversation with a woman if she’s giving clear choosing signals. Good fucking luck with that! Reputational hits and loss of freedom? You shouldn't be doing anything illegal. Talking to women isn't illegal. If you think approaching a woman means whipping out your dick or something... you have serious issues and yeah you shouldn't be approaching anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:36 PM
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Let me ask you this. It's 100% legal to approach women in almost all spaces at all times. So, why are we even listening? We know this is one of the best ways to meet women and a critical skill to have in your arsenal. You are going to find in life that women will always try to force you to live on their terms and it's your job... no actually it's your duty to say NO and live how you want. This is about power and control for them. By boxing you into a tiny little corner it allows them to cut you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:22 PM
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Anyone telling you “don’t approach me here” is giving you their personal perspective and there’s is probably going to be another person who would love to be approached there. These women tend to come in only about 3 or 4 shades. Liars, misandrists, nutjobs, and married women. This is why it's pretty much safe to ignore the shit advice of not approaching, because the women who say this are mostly pushing a power play.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:18 PM
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Ok, yeah, Education is a weird job with an odd pay structure and extremely variable working conditions. I don't know many happy people who work in the industry, except one or two university professors. Doing Restaurant work is actually pretty cool. It's low pay though. I had a photography company. I usually made about $200 an hour on the weekends. I did a couple weddings, but I didn't like it even though the money was very good. I worked with fashion and modeling for about 2 years, I didn't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:38 AM
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The Red Pill has always been sort of enamored with the idea that we need to dial back whatever it is that women are doing. I think from the very beginning a lot of guys had this idea that we should go back to traditional relationship models. I felt that was maybe correct too years and years ago. However, now that I have really thought about it hard, and looked at it from multiple angles, I have come to a different conclusion. While I think women have done well economically, I don't think that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:57 AM
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You know it really depends on the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:06 AM
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No, the core pieces of her personality are shared by millions of men... particularly the guys who complain constantly about how unfair things are. My sister's main complaint is that I was given success and she wasn't because the wider family loved me more as a boy. But what she fails to see is that I overcame my own laziness while she totally embraced it. My mom did everything for her, everything! It didn't start out that way though. I pushed myself to become independent despite the fact that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:04 AM
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Women are contradictory enigma You just need to use emotional logic and then it makes sense. Emotions have an almost mathematical logic to them once you have enough experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:28 PM
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Career: granted, the career counselors sucked at my high school for many reasons. But we were discouraged from picking careers that were seen as for men, or ones that were perceived as getting in the way of getting married and having babies. If I had had that kind of support, my life would be very different. LOL... support from career counselors? How old are you? These people have always been worthless... absolutely worthless except way, way back when they first started up. My counselor told me …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:19 PM
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That being said, I know my individual life would have been better if I'd been born male. My sister says this stuff too, but I think she is delusional. She has the personality type of the most extreme loser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:12 PM
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Have you ever sat down and read a bunch of women's fantasy? I mean the really smutty stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:58 PM
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Your analogy is flawed in many ways. Picking a companion based on good enough? Worse yet one that views YOU as good enough. Everyone should be valued. This advice ONLY applies to people who are realistic and self aware. Most people need to be told exactly how stupid their criteria are and how fucking insanely shallow and ridiculous their demands seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:56 PM
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Women don't have to because they are coming from a position of power and abundance. Men are almost entirely disenfranchised and this language is an outgrowth of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:45 PM
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Nobody tell red pillers about shapeshifter erotica. Their heads would explode. We know about it. Some of the male love interests are essentially serial killers. This genre has some wild stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:39 PM
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I don't know why men never stop to think WHY women initiate divorce. I'm 34 and a mom. So I've seen it a lot, and know tons of women thinking about it. This is actually a lot deeper discussion than what you think. A lot of these women are just shitty moms and shitty partners. You have to negotiate these things in a marriage and communicate them properly... and then give up some control. A good chunk of these women are just total fucking control freaks who are incompetent at both relationships an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:41 PM
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What you are saying is that being single is better than being in a bad relationship. I think that depends on how bad the relationship was, and based on the things you value it sounds like yours really sucked. I think it's not good for kids to have such a horrible relationship with their father. The freedom to just do whatever you want is not that great, especially when having two jobs... that sounds like slave drudgery. Don't get me wrong, I've worked two jobs before... but that second job was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:10 PM
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Hmm that’s weird that men think sleeping with a lot of women makes them better in some way but yet they think when women sleep with lots of men it degrades them. That's because you are thinking about low intimacy sex from a woman's standpoint. They have told you before that rape is not about sex, but instead about power and control? Most men cannot articulate this, but a woman who has had sex with lots of men can be dominated and controlled by anyone. It means her status is very, very low. It ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:46 AM
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This is why I try not to smile or be overly polite to strange men. I sometimes don't even make eye contact. I don't wanna them obsess or think about me. I think this is the best choice, it also helps when you are in a relationship to keep men with bad intentions from coming after you. Just keep in mind that you don't want to be impolite or rude. I've always found that bubbly outgoing women run into the most issues with this... which is sad. I try to tell people all the time that by basically tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:22 AM
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My brother is the biggest whore I know and sleeps with people he just met then worries about the consequences later. We were raised by the same parents and are close in age so I think it’s our society that is letting men think hookup culture is okay. So, it greatly depends on your cultural background. Men are driven to this kind of behavior through multiple different pathways, and because of that it can be hard to guide a guy out of it. I think a lot of the highly attractive guys who get lots of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:35 AM
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This is the ideal way to deal with such problems! I wish more people could take your approach and put their own issues aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:04 AM
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No government in the world has tried this yet, but I think it is only a matter of time for some of the more authoritarian states. Putin has tried all of the old soviet bullshit and it's not working... I think he will do something drastic in the next few years. Xi actually wants the population to drop I think... probably believes he can control China easier with fewer people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:41 PM
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A lot of men think they are competing with other men. In reality men are competing with the comfort of women's single life. More often than either of those, it's the fantasy of the man she believes she deserves that guys are competing against. Single life isn't that great for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:39 PM
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Imagine having people put so little attention into you that even a tiny bit becomes deeply meaningful. That idea just strikes me as sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:14 PM
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That has to be so difficult. I've emotionally detached so much that I just can't get to a point where I care about anyone. I think the two extremes of this just really suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:13 PM
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In my opinion the core problem is hookup culture. However, the problem is really two fold. I think a lot of women are sold on the idea of being able to sleep with a man and not be shamed by others or feel ashamed about it. What isn't understood is that almost every single time if a woman sleeps with a guy who has not developed some emotional connection to... then she has just participated willingly in her own sexual objectification. The weird part is that most women feel this, they really feel i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:33 PM
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.... PG_Throwaway just agreed with me? I'm screenshotting this!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:55 PM
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If I were to only talked to women like how I talked to men, which I do so this is speaking from experience, I would never ask them out or for their number since I don't do this with other men. Bro, it's the same thing. You just chit chat about something... even the bloody weather. The difference comes in when you give her a compliment about something... usually not a physical attribute and ask if she would like to continue the conversation at a later time. I literally watched my big chubby hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:36 PM
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They are the most unfriendly buggers in the world as far as I can tell. Almost as bad as the Scandinavians which might be where it comes from. I didn't realize how bad it was until my daughter was born and she is super outgoing. Time after time she would come up to make friends with some other girl and they would just pretend like she doesn't exist. It really got her down years ago and made her feel like there was something wrong with her. I got so pissed I started saying to the kid in a soft bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:26 PM
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I will side with the red pill on this. Men should not care if their initial flirting, approaching and any kind of "shooting their shot" (that isn't assault) makes women uncomfortable. I thought about this a lot. The fear is actually very real now due to cameras and social media. I think if we made it illegal to shame people for being awkward in public... some kind of change to libel laws... or a new category in defamation should fix this. The big benefit is that you could sue the shit out of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:13 PM
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I learned all this stuff by doing cold approach. What I didn't realize in my youth is that the thoughts going through my head created an.... an energy or what the folks now days call a vibe. When it was negative people could sense it and I was rarely attractive despite how good I looked. I actually would have women interested just looking at me, but in a short time even saying all the right things they would not want to see me again. One of my best friends was always great with women and althoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:07 PM
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Of course they care about equality! Thing is though they only care about equality when it benefits them. If they're behind they want equality to get ahead, and if they're ahead they don't want equality. They just assume by default men never need equality because men always have it all. Equality is a lie feminists are using to trick most people. Same with the historical subjugation of women narrative. I think you and I see through this... at some point they will have enough power to take control.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:58 PM
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Physical abuse is the number one reason, and I believe number two is the partner not putting in enough effort. Still... the divorce rate even for lesbians is WAY lower than for straight people. Also... and this is interesting. If a lesbian has a baby the divorce rate is almost 80%. The suspicion is that the partner who had a baby wants to get a man to help out with the child, but it's generally unknown why this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:53 PM
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All these women settling, yet guys can't get a girlfriend? Does not add up. This is a numbers game. What percentage of women are willing to settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:47 PM
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Where do men who have partners that want to have sex with them, yet they still can’t kick the point addiction fit into this? My biggest issue with porn ever was during my marriage. Her sex drive tanked in year two and I responded by watching porn. Eventually porn was easier and better than jumping through all the fucking hoops to get her into it. It had turned into a really bad addiction at one point and then... BAM. I got divorced and didn't need porn anymore. So, I think you are going to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:46 PM
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Soooooo much of what I see online from manosphere places is capitulation. "Enjoying the decline" type stuff. ... and fine, I can appreciate a pyrrich victory as much as the next guy. There are two parts to this problem. The first is that we are entirely powerless in the situation. All we can do is to change ourselves, and if the women around us are garbage... then we must either dumpster dive for something acceptable, or learn to enjoy trash. Let me tell you that the way to be successful at life…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:40 PM
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"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need." That was very true of our era. If you made that quote today it would look like: "We're a generation of men raised to be women" I actually read the stuff feminists write in their books and college papers. The goal of the movement from the top has never been equality, it's always been supremacy. Equality is just the lie they use to disarm men. The idea is to replace men in power with women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:21 PM
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Is it really so much to ask that women actually think about what their boy needs unique to him rather than just trying to hammer him into a being a fucking girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:27 PM
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If you look at the situation that Augustus came into, and how Rome looked when he died, you can see that perhaps of all his reforms this was maybe one of his biggest. Rome had been constantly wracked by civil war and chaos in the streets. I have often wondered how important these reforms were to creating the Pax Romana time period that made the Roman empire last another 200 years rather than continue disintegrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:25 PM
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This won't happen... ever. About 15% of men just really like overweight women. Another big chunk date them because these women will accept cheating and other forms of bad behavior. Guys just aren't going to get on the same page with this. The solution is to remove women's special advantages in the workplace, and then bring back slut shaming but on a social media type scale... where that shit is permanent and blasted to the whole world. That way women can't removed high qualified men from good jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:30 PM
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I used to work events, and would see the shortest obese ogres with super tall fit men. These were mostly young couples under 35 and it was weird. A lot of guys will do this because these women are cool with a guy having affairs. They just don't want to hear about it or have it a public thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:22 PM
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Most guys are very passionate about video games and porn. The more I read these the more I feel like today's mothers are just idiots... maybe that's why so many boys are struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:19 PM
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This is too basic. In particular the co-ed group thing... because men don't approach in public much anymore, women get bombed in these group co-ed settings and either they flee or they become insanely picky because the competition is crazy there. Congrats, you just fucked your son over!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:17 PM
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In the world of online dating... I think so many younger men just completely have zero experience with this and no understanding. They actually believe this is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:09 PM
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That's kind of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:50 PM
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I really don't think its that much about what the guy looks like. I worked in infectious disease for some of the universities in 2019 and 2020.... the amount of women these guys sleep with is unbelievable! We had one guy, a D1 Football player and this guy banged 31 different girls in something like 60 days. A lot of the other guys on his team with STI's were not far behind him. They can't all be super handsome guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:17 PM
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Who cares? The stuff he is posting are all very serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:47 PM
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But I don't think we need to shy away from the fact that we are ending human life during said process. Which we are doing in these discussions because it sounds less humane. I get that we want to do this, to have better odds at getting it back. But I like to be straightforward myself. All I ask for is honesty, and it's so rare that I greatly appreciate your position. I don't disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:36 PM
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Racism isn't "deep" enough for you? From an ideology that thinks the sun is racist, the rocks are racist, everything in the universe is racist... no, that isn't deep. Continually. Unfortunately, red pillers aren't able to say the same. If you have actually looked at feminism and it's core beliefs from a serious perspective, I think you would have a lot more criticisms to level than just basic stuff. For example, the textbook definition of patriarchy has almost nothing to do with how the word is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:33 PM
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There are different levels of patriarchy. Obviously the US isn’t nearly as bad as Afghanistan but our institutions were overwhelmingly designed by men and for men. The definition of the word only looks at the gender of people who hold positions of power and influence. So for example the US in 1919 when women were given the right to vote was just as patriarchal as Afghanistan today. The fact that you see a difference and use the word to describe that difference is proof that the textbook definiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:55 PM
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No, the goverment wants to collect money from men... period end of story. People follow their financial incentives and these courts skim money off the top for child support. The same reasons men don't shoot for full custody apply the partial custody as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:26 PM
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I don't think adoption requires a fathers consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:16 PM
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Just read some of the topics on this subreddit. It paints a pretty brutal picture of a system where men are systemically locked out of most assistance programs and governement aide at at time when they need it the absolute most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:15 PM
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Because it is a human rights issue first. If you like it or not it's human life. I don't think that during any point of the pregnancy it gets to be anywhere as valuable as the mothers life. So I am fully for the right to terminate it because this does more good than harm. But it doesn't change the fact of the matter. I think this is probably one of the most respectable arguments I've read on abortion in years. Abortion has to be legally available in lots of medical situations where the pregnancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:03 PM
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This is ridiculous framing. It's like framing the Holocaust in terms of Nazi rights. Actually, you have to legally define at what point a Jew becomes a human first in terms of legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:57 PM
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Something like 80% of men get custody if they actually care enough to have it. The reason for that statistic is because when men have to shoot for custody it's because the mother is a drug addict or insane... and that's why they win at a higher rate. Otherwise most men don't try for 2 main reasons, first everyone tells them that children are better off with their mom who recieves massive social support and goverment support. Second they don't believe they can win since the divorce courts are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:53 PM
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What kind of cases do you work on? and in what state?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:27 PM
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Sure until you get in front of a judge. The law in the US is also race neutral since the civil rights act.... so by your logic there hasn't been racial discrimination in the US since the 1960s. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:24 PM
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Where did I say that was all? I said it was a criticism of feminism, which is what was requested. Lemme guess, that doesn't count because of reasons? I was just hoping for something a little deeper than "they havn't been intersectional enough in the past" as a critique. I think a lot of feminists themselves say this as a way to placate minorities and keep them in the fold. Have you ever stepped back and looked at this ideology with a critical eye?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:46 PM
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the most negative thing it said about men is that we lived in a patriarchy which is detrimental to women. Think about that for just a moment. If that was true... then how on earth did women get the right to vote? So, basically they are teaching kids this lie that men have all the power and use it to hurt women.... and you don't think that is something horrible to teach kids? Especially since it's such a base lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:43 PM
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What the fuck is a "legal person" and how does that relate to anything? The rights of all people in times past flowed down from those who were seen as protectors of them. A middle class woman had rights and powers way above a low class man. A noble woman could order a peasant man executed for any reason any time and it would be done. We have records of women from noble families ordering that wealthy merchants be beated AND RAPED in the streets and it was not only done but legal. So, what the fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:39 PM
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Give me a break. Her writing is very influential within the movement. You feigning ignorance does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:32 PM
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She's foundational for 3rd wave feminism and taught in most classes. If you believe that gender is fluid then you have studied her work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:31 PM
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For sure, feminism has a very long history of ignoring issues from women of color and being dominated by wealthier white women. That's it? That is all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:29 PM
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White supremacists are already the dominant majority. No, they aren't. I doubt you could find 50,000 in a whole country of 350 million. The FBI had a total number of 5,000 in 2020. The only way you get higher is by listing prison gangs and bikers... even then it's an absolute tiny portion of people. Compare that to the NeoRacist Woke assholes who are a whopping 20% of the entire population and dominate all positions of power and culture. Women had equal rights and treatment 40 years ago at minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:21 PM
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Ok... name your time period fool!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:14 PM
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This is uneducated propaganda and it's both harmful and stupid to promote. Every culture and time period was a bit different, but generally speaking women were always given a lot of dignity and rights... but it was heavily dependent on social standing. Even still, low class women typically had it better than low class men who were worked to death and slaughtered like animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:14 PM
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We? You were fucking there, You don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:24 AM
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Oh there are absolutely criticisms of feminism, you just don't want to hear about it because they aren't "FeMiNiStS RuInEd a GeNeRaTiOn oF BoYs" Ok. I'm very interested to hear you criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:23 AM
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Women always had basic dignity you ridiculous person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:22 AM
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The Future is Female said by Feminists is equivalent to the slogan White Power when used by white supremacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:19 AM
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And that podcast has the lowest rating I've ever seen on a podcast. It is allowed to exist. Think about that for a moment!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:47 AM
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"Kill all men" or "all men are rapists". Wasn't it Andrea Dworkin who said that? They teach her shit on every college campus in the nation, so anyone who claims to be a feminist in some part buys into these ideas. Look, if you are in the Klan and march around in white hoods, why should anyone believe your claim that you aren't racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:46 AM
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It’s kind of hard to have a discussion on this though because women are very clever with how they express things. Most women won’t outright say misandry doesn’t exist (cause that in itself can seem misandrist), they just create an excuse why body shaming, death threats against men, etc. aren’t actually misandry. Misandry is Feminism. They use the word Patriarchy as a standin for Satan, and that word literally means "all men". So basically we have Feminism which functions the exact same way as Ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:40 AM
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Why are we continually comparing the most extreme things women have ever said on the internet with the stuff that dudes say on this sub almost every day How about the fact that they teach that extreme bullshit on every college campus in the nation? You can kiss ass all day, but it won't get you laid. You come across like a toadie... Feminists have an absolute headlock on education in this country and it has fucked an entire generation of boys, absolutely ruined their lives and you can't find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:29 AM
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This is actually very bad for people and a culture where everyone has to walk on eggshells fucking blows. If you cant take a little shit from people, then you just suck and honestly you should not be on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:19 AM
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Yes. AWALT , describing borderline personality as all women,the oldest teenager in the room. That is flat out stupid. Anyone who believes that crap is a fool Do you believe women stop maturing at 16? That's in the sidebar as well. Uh.... what kind of "mature?" I said once before, I think this stuff is mostly a self defence mechanism. It justifies failure, and justifies not trying. If you never talk to a woman in real life... you don't have to worry about having one reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:56 AM
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Years ago. Why, am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:27 PM
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Ohhhh if this was an actual irl club then I will definitely be inclined to believe you. And I can definitely see how there is quite a bit of truth in the last paragraph. The true goal of me being on this stupid sub is locating younger guys who aren't totally defeatist mindset and helping plug them into local networks, but we got deplatformed 3 times since 2019 and it is a STRUGGLE to keep stuff together. Right now if someone shuts down Telegram the Black Pill will rule supreme over the next gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:10 PM
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"All Women Are Like That" is bullshit. It doesn't exist and it used to be the defining line between Red and Black pill ideas. The men who believe this don't actually know any women. Nobody fully understands female attraction. Even women don't really understand it. They kind of understand what makes them personally tick, but other women are generally a mystery. My own theory is that it has to do with the emotional needs of woman combined primarily with perceptions of mans status. I think it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:49 PM
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but I sense you don't understand the male experience. Good men are not born, they are made, and it's not always a straight forward process. I know that's hard to understand from the typical female experience where no effort is required in order to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:37 PM
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It maybe once was. But definitely not for the majority of its run time. I will definitely believe you that there were quite a lot of successful guys. But these were definitely not the majority. From what I read when I took a look occacionally most people definitely were putting on an act. From 2008-2019, when we were going strong there was a clear separation. Most of the thought leaders and honest Red Pillers... we had regular in person meetups. We went out to bars, clubs, concerts... all kinds …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:38 PM
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Dude men who are more liberal in thinking also sleep around a fuck ton more. And both sides have a fuck ton of absolute bottom dwellers, just in different forms. I really doubt that the amount changes much per side. Only about 30% of liberal men are able to sleep around. The rest are either bisexual and fucking each other, permanently alone, or those sad sorry sacks who just watch their wives sleep with other men. Overall, being a liberal man means a signifigant reduction in sex... even in relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:16 PM
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One of the more successful guys back in the day went by the screen name Gaius. I think he usually slept with anywhere between 30 and 60 different women a year. I met him when we went on a trip to Vegas. We sat up drinking whiskey until 4am one night and he told me that his success with women was making him depressed. He was early 30s at the time. A year later he dropped out, got married, and has... I think 6 kids now. He actually was one of the founders of the International Wife Hunting movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:05 PM
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I agree, but being attractive to women is the first step. Most guys eventually grow out of the need for quantity and instead go for quality and intimacy. A lot of things in life require you to go through stages. I suspect that had we been granted better interactions with women in our youth this would never have been a required step, but this is just how life goes sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:59 PM
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People who are more liberal sleep around a lot more and also choose to not get married even in a committed relationship that will last a lifetime. Correction, WOMEN who are liberal sleep around a lot more. The highly attractive men who are liberal are drowning in these women, but the vast majority of liberal men are the bottom dwellers that women refuse to date. The number one indicator of a man who can't get a date or sex is describing himself as liberal... of the 30% of men who didn't get sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:52 PM
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This is Fact! It's always been a diverse community of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:45 PM
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Back when we had our own space and Red Pill was primarily a PUA thing, I think the average Red Pill guy got around 7 women a year in all different types of scenarios. I knew guys that did short term relationships and only dated maybe 2 women a year, and I knew guys who just did one night stands and hit 7 to 30. The men who were just totally failing all went black pill. Somehow in the shift from Millenial to Gen Z, the Red Pill vanished almost entirely and everyone went black pill. I suspect it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:43 PM
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Also, the assumption is that only crazy women go with us... which is absolutely untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:33 PM
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No. What's going to happen is that these generations are going to follow what the young Chinese guys are doing and just lie flat and do nothing, they won't fight or resist. Then the elites are just going to use AI tech to imprison them for whatever reason and then work them as slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:31 PM
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True, the desertification of the zone is relatively new, but still farms and agriculture relied a lot on manual labor, which was best done by men. Yeah, that's completely true! One of the most interesting things that I have found is that while the area was fairly fertile, it was of course primarily along the rivers. The sort of city state period of the 5000-3000 bc timeframe they believe initial conflict between the cities grew out of fights over grazing land for livestock. I was also quite surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:10 PM
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Catholics destroyed every effigy and trace of record keeping they could find, hacked off their hair, stole their children and indoctrinated. Destroyed entire cultures and languages and enforced adherence to Catholic rituals. Well, it seems you have at least learned half of history. The people who fought for them, protected them, preserved their culture, kept their orphan children fed and clothed, educated them, and loved them.... they were also Catholics. You are going to find that history is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:06 AM
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That would imply I think you should date. I'm not qualified to make that suggestion for you. Fact is that most of these guys although they don't really hate women... they have many issues that are deeply unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:27 AM
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Yeah, this got cleared up in a follow up post. The Isrealites essentially wanted to ensure primacy of the wife's children over potential concubines or second wives from other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:38 PM
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I remember the crop rotation, but not the part about fertilizers. Wow. Have you heard of tobacco? Are you aware that tomatoes are a New World crop and Italy had never heard of tomatoes? Meaning that all the saucy dishes considered "Italian" are actually cribbed from Native American farming and cooking? There are a lot of crops that came from the new world. The potatoe is perhaps the most impactful. The Pueblo and Hohokam used irrigation canals in the southwest. Yeah, they were quite advanced. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:36 PM
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If your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish, but if your father is Jewish you are only partially Jewish and you must convert. Oh Yes! This was common in multiple wife cultures or in places where concubines had status. It also is used to prevent cultural mixing. On sexism, I think almost all Middle East cultures were somewhat sexist, probably because the harshness of the desert that relied heavily on male labor. The fertile crescent was just that... it wasn't just some giant desert wasteland. In fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:27 PM
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Dude. How much do you actually know about these things? Yes, it was primarily catholic priests who fought for better treatment to the indiginous peoples. They fought so hard in fact that some historians believe what they wrote was partly propaganda. If you want more on the topic look up Bartolomé de Las Casas. “To bloody sun gods” such a dramatic turn of phrase. OT God demanded sacrifice and bet Job’s faith with the devil, while methodically killing and removing Job’s entire family. OT God also …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:21 PM
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I think that would make sense given how they divided up their gender roles. Most agriculture was handled by women and I think was done communnally? I remember that they had developed a form of crop rotation, but had not realized the importance of either fertilzers or irrigation. I think their techological level was below even the ancient Mesopotamians, which mean low crop yields and a heavy reliance on hunting and gathering. I remember talking with my anthropology prof about them years ago and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:12 PM
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By what standard? They actually had religious provisions for widows. Also... are you sure they were matrilineal?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:51 PM
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The way I see it, the Spanish had a different kind of cruelty. You have to understand that Spain was ruled by Muslims for hundreds of years, and they wars they fought for independance were nasty. So, the Spanish had developed this encomienda system that should be thought of as old time socialism. I may have spelled that wrong. Anyway, how it worked was peasants needed these things like food, shelter, protection, but due to the back and forth wars often couldnt' provide it themselves, nor could t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:49 PM
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At least in the more urbanized civilization down in Mexico women had their own status in society and girls were given compulsory education not just the boys. Read "The Broken Spears". It's Mayan and Aztec people dictating their history and culture to sympathetic priests. First hand accounts of how that culture once worked. However, the Spanish were clearly shocked by a lot of the shit they saw. Sacrificing people by the tens of thousands to bloody sun gods. The near constant rape of women, the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:38 AM
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How about the sharks which followed the ships through the Middle Passage to feast on dying and dead slaves. You should actually read the entire story of what these people went through. The slave ships were not the starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:24 AM
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That’s some racist-ass horseshit. The Osage, Navajo, Cherokee, Lenape and Narragansett were egalitarian while some Cherokee and Yuchi tribes were matriarchal. I remember the Cherokee being matrilineal not a Matriarchy. I don't remember them being wonderful in their treatment of women, however, I've never really studied them outside of how they sued the US government to have a different status than black americans, and also so they could keep slaves...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:16 AM
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I reject them all as being 100% and think we have only a smattering of the actual teachings of the itinerant rabbi we know today as "Jesus" What we have today is "Paulism", so far as I'm concerned. To get to this place you have to essentially think of Jesus as a delusional idiot who got himself executed by accident before he could kick off a rebellion. I know this is what Jews expected, but if you read thier prophecies... they are nonsense. Who can rule forever? But yeah I get where you are comi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:39 AM
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It probably has something to do with the origin of ambition and the belief that "If I can do it, others can do it too".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:44 PM
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Paul promotes a lot of things in his writings that were never said anywhere in the Gospels by Jesus ... nor even in the Nag Hammadi scrolls. The Nag Hammadi Scrolls are all from a much, much later date. It's nonsense to expect Paul to preach ideas that didn't exist until 200 years after he died. Why do you think this is a relevant argument? Paul's teachings match up almost perfectly with the gospels. In my experience all the attempts to undermine Paul come from a desire to attack his proscriptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:35 PM
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Patriarchy just means men, historically, globally and today, hold most of the power. What is the point of this metric? Do we need a term to describe that water is wet? No, we don't. So, why the fuck do feminists use this stupid pointless term? Because it has implications associated with it. If one man holds power, does that mean all men hold power? What is the fucking point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:13 PM
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Because they don't really hate women. It's a defense mechanism employed by men who have been deeply hurt by women in general or A woman in particular, and the goal is to keep themselves from getting hurt again. Isn't this obvious? It's the same reason women do this. Men who truly hate women do not express this openly. I knew this woman who was friends with a notorious serial killer who hated women so much, he got sexual pleasure from murdering them. She was quite a bit older than me, but I knew …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:06 PM
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Yates was sentenced to life in prison and serves her sentence in a mental hospital. Yates is schizophrenic and locked up in a mental hospital, which is what happens to murderers found not guilty by reason of insanity, whether male or female. Only about 25% of the people who plead insanity are actually aquitted. Men are found guilty despite extensive mental records showing insanity about 92% of the time. Women are found guilty only about 50% of the time when they plead insanity. There are multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:28 PM
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?? Saying fatherless behaviour is actually a way of saying that they had a bad mother who did not "choose better" and daddy issues is just a way to make fun of these women. No. I think the understanding here is that no woman is capable of being both a mother and a father at the same time. It is fundamentally a woman's job... her primary job to select a quality man to have children with, and then to keep him around. Otherwise women would be assigned husbands and they wouldn't be allowed to choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:58 PM
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The other guys got a point. The pussy pass is a very real thing in our country. This isn't Iran where women get punished for bad deeds. This is America where women can drown their children in the bathtub and still ellicit vast public sympathy... even get a vastly lighter sentence than a man who did the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:07 AM
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Carrie's mother, from the book/movie. King used this character as a vehicle to attack religion... not bad mothers. Norma Bates Old story, plus she isn't seen in the movie. The main villian is actually her son. Matilda's mother Again old story, the mother is bad but still better than the father. Mother gothel from Tangled. Not a mother... an abductor. Precious's mother Nowhere near as bad as her horrific absusive father. Cercei Lannister An idiot, but not a bad mother. She is fiercly loyal and pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:02 AM
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Mansplaining. Manspreading. Shit even Patriarchy. Patriarchy is essentially competence based hierarchy. Feminists hate this, created a label for it and then demonized it, because they want to pretend we can create a heirarchy free society AKA... Communism. However, just like communism, most of them don't actually believe this shit, they just want to put themselves on top and oppress working class women and men. On it's own I consider it a loathsome ideology, but capable of doing some social good…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:18 AM
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Because, in the media we rarely see examples of bad mothers. I don't really think it's socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:33 AM
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This is a rather wierd scenario and I don't think that I would be willing to play along in that particular situation. Anyone who has been with the Red Pill long enough will know a certain RP guy who is French Canadian, openly had a wife, a mistress, and some random side pieces, practicing civil rights law. One of his most well known statements was "I love my wife, but I neither need or expect my wife to love me in return, it is only respect that I demand from her." Also... "I require affection i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:02 PM
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Because it's Windmill... I somehow feel like I'm being trolled. However, I will bite on this one. I've had this phrase used on me a couple of times in my life, but not all of those usages were the same. When this is used as a motivational statement, in order to snap someone out ot negative thinking and a downward depression cycle... it doesn't feel bad. It can still come across like a verbal slap, but the meaning and intent is good. However, it can also be used to invalidate a man's concerns or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:45 PM
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Many people (a plurality, if not a majority) already hate/despise their jobs/careers and continues to tolerates doing it for the paycheck. This is dumb, because most people are dumb. I got into my career and rapidly realized that if I worked hard enough I could make crazy good money and then not have to work as hard later. I did.. and everyone else who is smart does the same. From 22-30 we bust our ass and rise to the top, from 30-40 we are on cruise control and have plenty of time for fun plus …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:23 PM
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If my husband asked for a paternity test, he has my full blessing to get one done. However, he'd also have to find a marriage counselor and a therapist to sort out his trust issues because I'm not going to sit around and pretend like he didn't just insinuate that there's a very real chance that not only have I cheated but that I got pregnant, and am trying to pass it off as his. I tell guys all the time to buy the Ancestry dot com kit, and run the whole family. If a woman kicks up a fit about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:54 PM
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Why? I've personally never had this issue with cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:38 PM
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Hottness makes me glance more than once and find something oddly magnetic kind of like a car crash. I love this turn of phrase because it implies something most people don't usually say out loud. We are all kind of conditioned to think of the Halo effect, but when I see women who are above and beyond good looking my mind immediately goes not to effortless beauty, but to all of the effort that must go into creating and maintaining those looks, and the mindset that must be in place to desire that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:10 PM
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That is certainly a thing terpers tell one another, as they watch women take the men they are attractive to home. You totally missed the point. A lot of guys have this experience where a woman doesn't really like us up front, but seemingly changes her mind after some time together. To most men this seems random and odd... despite the fact that we do this as well. The truth is that people in general are pretty decent at knowing what turns them on, but have absolutely no concept of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:04 PM
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Sexual desire drops signifigantly in marriage for women, but not in long term dating. Due to many experiences I currently believe that if there is too much emotional safety it drastically reduces the overall sex drive of most women. Have you experienced this yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:53 PM
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Every part of that makes sense, but I'm curious as to what you mean by "style". Because this suggests status signals, and/or stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:46 PM
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You don't think very deeply about things do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:53 PM
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But this isn't what I asked. You said women were unable to differentiate between real and fake options and as a result we have an unrealistically elevated level of expectation of men, while in men, this ability to differentiate was so thorough they didn't even need to think about. I asked you why this is. This opinion is based on multiple studies, where they ask women about their standards before going to a speed dating event, and then after a speed dating event. They find consistently that if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:50 PM
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I'm unfamiliar with this The Titanic is sinking, there are two life boats left. One with a man and one with a Polar Bear. Which do you choose? for trans people? Anyone who doesn't want to identify strictly as male.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:22 PM
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No, I don’t think so. Because I don’t believe that men are naturally rapists. Some men will rape, but they don’t represent the majority of men. I agree. It’s also important to note that rape happens often in places like India and Egypt where women have far less rights than women in the West have. So, I think it comes down to both individual men’s inclination to rape and cultural attitudes toward women in any given society. What creates that individual inclination in your opinion? Also... Egypt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:15 PM
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Uh... well we can just ban women from planes all together. They can do train travel instead... MUCH SAFER! Also... voting is very unsafe. We should start rethinking a lot of this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:20 AM
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I'd actually prefer segregated schools. I mean if given a choice... I'd probably take the men's plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:18 AM
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a doctor in India was just recently gang raped and murdered. I don't think many people know that. India generally has one of these cases once every 4 or 5 years. Also... I believe they are saying only one guy did this. If it's a gang rape then it's probably another religiously motivated attack since the girl was Hindu, and that shit is one of the biggest underlying factors making the country unsafe for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:17 AM
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I think we proved with the Titanic analogy that the bear analogy was bullshit and that no woman actually chose the bear. I mean for fucks sake, we need to line women up and put them in front of a grizzly bear cage and anyone who chooses the bear can go sit in the fucking cage with the grizzly for a day... then we can take her shit seriously. Otherwise, just shut up, because we know it's a fucking lie. Also, I'm only cool with this idea of gendered seating charts under 2 conditions. First, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:56 AM
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How the fuck do you figure that confidence is an "asshole trait"? What total brainrot. You know those women who are like 200 pounds and call themselves a 10 and claim to be raving beauties. Yeah... that's a psychotic trait. Any kind of delusional confidence is an asshole trait. You probably don't think of it this way because you think that when YOU are psychotically confident it's empowering everyone tells you this shit. Being a narc only really works if you look like a supermodel with it, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:34 AM
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There is literally no circumstance where rape is justifiable or acceptable. None. Of course. My question though is that if it's essentially men attempting to feel powerful.... then if you change the laws and rules of our society in such a way as to artificially oppress and remove power from men... and hand that power to women. Doesn't that potentially increase the desire for men to commit this crime? Aren't you potentially turning what would have been otherwise normal healthy men into rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:59 AM
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What is different in the male/female intellect that prevents women from even grasping this idea while it is inherent knowledge in men? Bear in mind that women are demonstrably better at both communication and socialization, and are not the ones complaining about having too many options. I think everyone has this sort of blind spot. Men walk around thinking they highly "rational" when in fact they are just as emotional if not more so than women. Women having their expectations raise by seeing fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:35 AM
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Old ladies, and young boys are sex trafficked all the damn time! No, this is about flooding the market with immigrants who aren't going to be out raping and robbing, but can still add to an economy I'd even be willing to add in Post Op Trans women from Muslim countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:18 AM
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Just from reading your post, your problem doesn't seem to be that you come across as too nice and that's why women aren't dating you, you come across as depressed and mentally unwell and yes those are big things that will turn people away. I want to say that this is a very good take. Part of being too nice is being afraid of women. It's possible to have that issue without being nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:16 AM
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But becoming a nasty asshole isn't going to improve your situation. Why don't you give this the nuance it deserves rather than pointless platitudes? Yes, there are some particular asshole traits that WILL make you more attractive to women. Confidence is top of that list. Other stuff like developing narcissistic appearance tendencies, and stop caring what other people think.... all of these things can help. However, one of the key traits that these guys tend to have that hurts them is putting wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:13 AM
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There's no problem with modern dating. There are just people discontent that the people THEY want don't want what THEY are offering. I'm not willing to just chalk this up to a mismatch in supply and demand. Essentially modern dating is a scam that works more like a ponzi scheme than a functional market. If a person's goal is a good relationship, very few people are actually trying to find a partner based on characteristics that make a great long term relationship... instead they are all looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:28 AM
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Women's expectations for a man increase with her percieved amount of options. I think in modern dating percieved options greatly outstrip real options, leading to a delusional level of expectation. I think a lot of men actually just naturally get this... or at least they sense it, so they want to try and tamp it down. On the other hand, male perception of options doesn't increase expectations... I can personally attest to the fact that it reduces the interest in being faithful or in comittment. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:08 AM
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The problem isn’t the marketplace, it’s the product This is actually my theory as well. I just happen to live in a very left wing city and I notice that the push to make men more effeminate has also made them much less attractive to the women around them. There are still some really pretty ones that do OK... but for the most part women despise these guys. If men weren’t so thirsty, they’d be just as discriminating as women The thirst is probably not that much higher than historic norms. Maybe so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:02 AM
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There are about 4 studies on this from Australia, and each of them show that regardless of how poorly a woman feels after casual sex, it actually increases her probability of doing it again IF the guy is attractive and sexual desire is there. So, what you are describing is actually a situation in which a woman has had some bad experiences and has decided to begin dating men she doesn't find sexually exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:48 PM
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That was it. He just got up and left. He walked back to the hotel, packed his things, and took a bus home. I don't know what happened after that. But, I was wondering if that story ever got cross-posted over to here, and if you had taken that into account. Unless there is some kind of medical reason, this needs to be treated like abuse when the divorce comes. Like, it entitles the injured party to 100% of all marital assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:41 PM
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Where have you been? It seems like they all want me to settle down and play house with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:38 PM
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I think you have a good point. But just for the sake of thinking this through... lets take a case on the margins and examine it. Do you remember that mattress girl? She actually released a video or reenactment of herself being raped. So her story goes like this. She is making love to this guy and he puts his finger near her anus. She says "No"... they keep going. Then suddenly he just sticks it in and she starts saying No repeatedly, but he ignores it. Now, let's just assume this story is true. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:27 PM
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Kids are such easy targets, they often don’t have the language to explain what is happening to them and often appreciate the attention at the time. Groomers pick lonely and ignored kids. It's just sick! I have been paying attention to the studies and literature on this, but 76 victims on average... that's just mindblowing. Many predators are family members. It makes them less likely to be prosecuted because victims feel pressured from their own family to not report. My h has a story about his br…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:23 PM
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Maybe rape used as terror really is a different animal than rape for sexual gratification This is just my opinion, but rape is always a display of dominance. It's the ultimate statement of "I have power over your body". I think that's also why it hurts people psychologically so bad... it makes them feel weak, powerless, unsafe. I think the gratification part is not the primary motivation. A huge amount of rape occurs with objects or hands too... there is no gratification on the part of the rapis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:07 PM
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What would be transparent? That women are less likely to be out on the streets murdering people and robbing folks a knife point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:03 PM
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Good Lord! 73? How do they go so long without getting caught? Imagine the numbers from those creepy fucking Hollywood casting agents that work with kids... or those freaks working at Disney? They have to be in the 1000s on average. This topic just sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:02 PM
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Actually, studies repeatedly show that a small number of sexual predators commit the vast majority all the rapes. I mean think about it... one Bill Cosby has such an outsized impact that if more than 1 or 2% of the male population was like that... then every woman in the US would get raped once every 4 or 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:54 PM
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Stop and think about the implications of this... not from a sexual perspective but from an societal perspective. Rape isn't about sex, and if you have to push yourself onto someeone then it isn't about feeling desired either. So, is most likely an urge to be powerful and in control.... a dominance mechanism. So, if all of this is true then what we are really describing is a male desire or need to feel powerful and dominant. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:51 PM
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I don’t think most men are naturally rapists. When we talk about these things in conjuction with the early modern world.... understand that in the ancient world women were primarily viewed in terms of breeding and child production. The most detailed descriptions of cities being sacked... a lot of the sexual violence was targeted to little boys, not women. Once these areas embraced Abrahamic religions, boys were much safer and over time the sexual violence against everyone slowed down. I look at …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:45 PM
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No, I highly reccommend doing things the way you do them. I don't think you should change. I choose to date this way for very specific reasons, and revenge is not one of them. It's much more about trust and not wasting my time. I have zero interest in another low sex relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:32 PM
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I'm curious, because it's not brought up often and I want to know your perspective, OP. Your post assumes the woman has already had sex with a bunch of other men. What about when she's a virgin? What time frame metric should a man use then? And how could he determine if the reason is attractiveness or trustworthiness? What a great question! From this you can get a glimpse into how men think. Very few men are going to take issue waiting for a virgin. Which implies that this is a competetive thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:42 PM
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Bro, they don't get it because they are so far up their own ass they don't even understand themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:37 PM
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If that makes anyone feel less loved then they are free lo leave, it's fine. I don't leave... I just shift from long term to short term relationship thinking... maybe date some other women on the side. I mean if you put in all that work up front, you might as well just see how the relationship goes. Maybe she turns it around at some point and really makes you feel great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:33 PM
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That's what's so sad about it, too. The people with the most influence never have to live with the problems they create. I remember when I first found out about the emergency service differences I actually felt a little bit sick. There are only so many ways to organize a society. We have seen over and over that when you build a nation around merchants and mercantilism the benefits flow up and down throughout society, but it requires strong private property rights and a very weak government. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:22 PM
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It's shocking how many people struggle with being comfortable with their race... because technically it doesn't even exist. My daughter is mixed... I don't think it's natural for people to think along those lines. She just doesn't at all, and I don't want anyone to teach her to think like that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:08 AM
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He can't find a single woman who likes him in his whole country yet in another they'll just be falling over him (because they're inherently different apparently)...sure... This is massive cope. What you are going to find is that in a lot of other countries women put a priority on finding a good husband, and the obesity rate for women under 40 is like 5% not 40%. So, it's a combination of a lot of factors. One being women actually make themselves available and put out effort. Another being many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:02 AM
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Immigration is not a walk in the park and brain drains are always from poorer to richer places for better living conditions rather than voluntarily worsening them. Well, this is a two part deal. Where I live, wealthy Passport Bros just go overseas, marry a woman and come back and raise a family. The lower income guys usually stay in the other country and work remote. Often times they invest, build businesses, work in import/export, stuff like that. The older guys seem to open bars and restaurant…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:53 AM
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I had a tech startup that I sold for a really good profit, and I know what the investment scene looks like. The US is still where it's at because this is where the VC, talent, and marketplace all exist in the same place. However, places like silicone valley have lost most of thier dynamic presence, still it's just shifting to other parts of the US. China is killing Hong Kong, which would have been huge, Europe is sliding down the shitter, Africa and the Middle east have no talent... India and Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:38 AM
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Hardship. Some of it external some of it internal. I have come to the conclusion that hardship is so essential in the creation of a good person that I naturally distrust those without some in their backgroud... actually I've found those folks to be overly dramatic. Of course hardship absolutely breaks some people... so its about being able to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:57 PM
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When you guys say stuff like this what are you proposing? Marriage, divorce, and family law reforms need to take place. Prenups need to be automatic, divorce needs to have clear justifications and fault while still remaining fairly easy, and joint custody needs to be the default. Regarding the no fault changes, if no solid justification for divorce can be given the party intending to leave should forfiet all marital assets. The school system needs to be completely restructured. We need male teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:28 PM
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Washington was "in love" with his prisoner? Do you actually believe he couldn't free her thanks to his power and wealth, or do you actually believe she wouldn't have run like the wind towards an attractive man of her choosing given the choice? It is also possible that Washington was gay, who knows. You seriously romanticized a fucking monster of a human being who fucked his prisoner instead of freeing her? Uh... not a slave a free woman, or so the theory goes. Regarding relationships of the peri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:10 AM
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Where I live, people born and raised here are more likely to commit crimes than Afghans and Somalis both. However, they usually aren't racially motivated. I actually wanted to marry into the Afghan community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:28 PM
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Afghan immigrants in Germany are less likely to commit crime than North Africans: Moroccans, Tunisians, and Algerians. I've had Somali's point a gun at me, say racist stuff and march me out of a neighborhood before. As for Afghans, I had a girls uncle threaten to murder me... and her, despite my willinness to joing their religion. His primary issue was my race. I was even starting to learn pashto. I haven't seen data from Germany for maybe 6 years. The last time I did Syrians came out looking pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:15 PM
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I've never supported them in the first place. The right hates me too, so I just do me and stick it to extremists of either side. It doesn't help that my country's political landscape have been hijacked by retarded American politics too. I have only spent a little bit of time around the right wing folks. I know church people pretty well. I think the two extremes are very different. The Christian folks don't want you in thier church, or around their kids... but the official teaching of the religio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:26 PM
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Whatever it is, at the minimum it's dangerous for women and girls and any politician, man or woman who agreed to their bulk importation should lose their job and be charged with treason. For countries based in equal protection under the law this doesn't make sense at all. I don't want to come across as someone who just hates Islam. I generally respect it, I spent some time attending a Mosque. I have friends who are practicing. That said... it has to change. They have to reject the Hadiths and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:19 PM
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(emphasis mine) Thank you. This means we can have a logical discussion. Women in power appreciate money and more power every bit as much as their male counterparts. The era of women in power being more socially responsible is over. I think they always have. I like ancient history and when you read about the lives of wealthy powerful women... they seem to act a lot like wealthy powerful men. Now, they had social constraints that men didn't and when a good one got into power for an extended period…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:19 PM
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I'm always willing to listen to someone else's opinion. I make 3 main assertions. Agree or disagree with each individually. Feminists and corporate bosses are the primary groups pushing for immigration They are intentionally bringing young men into western nations and leaving women behind. Corporate bosses because they want cheap labor and men will work longer hours for less pay. Feminists because the ethnic division creates a male voter base that they think will help them fuck over working clas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:31 PM
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Oh, I've been there. I know. Usually I'm in fantastic shape, but when I was building a startup company the stress ate me alive for while and I eventually ate my feelings. If you think men are hardasses about overweight women... about 15% are chubby chasers. The difference is that men just are assholes in how they express their tastes, while women sugar coat the shit out of it. I will say this though... there are some cultures where about 10-20% of the female population are chubby chasers too, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:50 PM
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Sure, in red rural areas. But have you been watching what's happening in blue places like urban or even rural California? Texans seems to have the will to survive but I don't see much evidence in a lot of other places. I live in a VERY blue area of the west coast. I used to own a bunch of rental houses around the area but between 2018 and 2019, I sold up and bought vacation rentals instead. I can tell you two things about politics. How the upper middle class votes determines the direction and po…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:46 PM
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Which pretty much frees us from the myth that women don't want/care about/respect men, doesn't it? Uh... yeah, in the same way slavemasters respect their slaves. Or, perhaps you have another reason why they ONLY support the immigration of young single men with a penchant for raping women of the lower classes? I mean we aren't talking all women. We are just talking about the ideological feminists who actually have power in places like Whitehall. Right. Because women are continually overcome with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:34 PM
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I don't think you are going to like that answer. One of the most effective strategies to gain permanent control over a country with the goal of enriching yourself and those around out is what the Romans called "divide et impera"... or divide and rule. The English used the divisions betwen Hindu and Muslim to rule India... and tribal conflicts in Africa. That's why all these countries are divided up so that ethnicities that hate one another must battle it out for control based on artificial lines…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:42 PM
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Let me quote one of my favorite songs on the topic. "Well I got the pistol, so I get the pesos. Yeah that seems fair!" The difference between wealth and power is actually immense. Jack Ma thought he had power being one of the richest men in the world. Then Xi put him in prison and took his company. Those who wield the power of violence make the rules. Gold can sometimes buy them off, but at the end of the day, we are all at the mercy of these folks. You are correct that it has always been this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:33 PM
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You guys are absolutely fucked! Two Tier Kier is going to turn your island into a shithole to rival Haiti, and you poor losers can't do anything to stop him and his ilk. This is why I'm glad to be in the US. We have mad immigration... more than you, but the people coming over are damn good folks on the whole. Plus, you also see the police here have stopped doing their jobs, but in the rural working class areas, it's still safe because 80% of the population is packing. That grooming shit would no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:25 PM
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Though local women are more against Ukrainian women. If you made immigration 100% single women under 40, with no kids allowed and no ability to drag family members over within a 20 year period. Women would fucking shit a brick. They would shut down immigration so God Damned fast it would blow your mind. They see immigration as an increase in the options for dick. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:15 PM
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It depends on the men. If we took in 10 million Chinese or Indian men, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs.... I seriously doubt most men would see them as invaders. These guys generally are not racists and desire to live peacful harmonious lives. Plus... they are much more likely to support men's rights. Now... if you switch that to Somali's or Afghans... Fuck No! These guys are racist mutherfuckers to the core and massively violent. They also are totally willing to work with women's groups to gain power …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:13 PM
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I think the change is very cool. I can't decide though if the change is because of more relaxed gender roles... or if it's because these things have become "Cool" and women always like what is culturally supported?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:05 PM
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I mean when RP guys talk about “Chad,” it seems to just be defined as any guy who monopolizes female attention in any social situation. It's a new generation, and Black Pill boys call themselves Red Pill. I don’t think it matters so much to people how much effort behind the scenes that said “Chad” put into becoming “Chad.” They focus so much on looks, because the assumption is that these guys were just "born with it". I remember having the exact same beliefs about wealth when I was a kid. My fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:03 PM
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The point I was making is that it isn't a giant conspiracy. The big investors who have been making money hand over fist in commercial real estate since the 1950s are all rapidly shifting money into residential... but NOT in building new stuff because government regulation is fucking insane. CA is trying to tackle that since they are the absolute worst, we will see if it works. The truth is that commercial real estate has to come back, but probably at a lower price and we need to regulate how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:56 PM
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People still play Warcraft?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:24 PM
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That was not my experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:23 PM
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He made that comment before he was a VP pick and long before Harris was the nominee. I think it's from 2021. My suspicion is that he was targeting some feminists in the federal bureacracy. I think it's no secret that the original feminists believed that children were something that held women back and made their lives worse. This strain of thinking has only become more popular if less overt. I believe he is taking a jab an the whole ideology, not one person in particular. It actually reminds me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:14 PM
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I've seen chubby pale metalheads get a shit ton of attention at more alternative venues with different crowds. Probably not so much at a resort bar full of frat boys and sorority girls. I've not seen anyone go after the chubby metalheads... even on their own turf. When I travel i hike a lot and meet a lot of fellow hikers, the guys getting attention are usually skinny bearded introverts who may or may not have showered in the past 3-4 days. I totally agree with this. It's all about the crowd. Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:57 PM
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The second bullet point was about sorority girls only going after "frat-types." Because the other women didn't go after anyone. Which is a valid point IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:50 PM
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Isn’t “Chad” defined as a guy who always has women throwing themselves at him? Chad doesn't exist. I greatly dislike these names for conventionally attractive people. You know in the late 2000s we used this term almost entirely in a disparaging manner to describe wealthy althletic men who had zero game or charimsa and just relied completly on their looks/money to attract women. That's why the name sounds like a villian from an 80s movie. Of course the 4Chan idiots looked at this completely diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:49 PM
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Louis XV notably did have children. 10 of them. So… pretty clearly having a bevy of kids doesn’t make someone among the elite give a shit about how anything affects families among the general population. I'm using the out of context Karl Marx quote of this particular king. Louis XV was just an idiot, and I think that leads into a solid point you make which is : Like what difference is it if it’s a woman without babies versus some clueless billionaire who doesn’t give a shit about anyone but his …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:45 PM
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Yes, reality is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:36 PM
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Washington was a devoted step father... and it has long been believed that he didn't have children with Martha, because he instead was in love with a black woman and simply couldn't be public about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:26 PM
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My sister doesn’t have kids. She is very invested in mine. That isn't parenting. And I will repeat, the statement hits hard because it goes directly at the policies and actions of people who absolutley don't give a shit about the future beyond themselves and are currently running things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:24 PM
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Have you ever read even 1 feminist author?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:34 PM
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I think it's very telling that in a Roman legion, you were punished if you broke formation or left your place in combat to seize an initiative, even if it worked. Absolutely! Any kind of complex tactical manouvre required... absolutely required everyone to perform their role perfectly. This was make or break for most armies and it's why Rome was able to just slaughter Germanic Tribes like they were nothing. If you want to compare, any army in China during this time period would have probably ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:29 PM
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I you ask me, a pretty abstract and overly altruistic move asking for quite the very long term goal oriented planning. There is a difference between thoughts and instincts. I feel like you are assume men should override thier instincts while assuming women should not. Attraction and mate value requirements are instinctual processes that women follow. Birth control is the reason they aren't having children, it's not like they are going into their 40's as virgins. Men also have these instincts whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:20 PM
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Point to me someone who actually thinks the modern world is the greatest time period to live, and I'll point to you someone who fundamentally doesn't value anything without material substance I don't know why, but I appreciate the eloquence of your posts more than most people! The SPQR-Pill logo kind of get's me, because it's a throwback to this sense of Honor that people used to have, but that nobody values anymore. It's still alive within Asian Cultures to a degree... and maybe that's why I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:08 PM
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You don't see it? Let's just say there is a heavily urban culture that is completely anti-children. I don't know exactly what to call them, because our political system are basically umbrella parties with multiple coalitions. But the anti-child cat ladies are one of the most powerful groups within their political coalition, and if you look have tons of high ranking positions within the federal bureaucracy. Maybe you don't live in a highly progressive area, so you don't interact with these folks …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:04 PM
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First of all I don't believe you looked up all the companies that are buying houses and then looked up the share ownership of those companies. That's a shitload of work for basically no reason. Either do the work yourself and come to your own conclusion, or shut your yapper. I have a lot of personal investment in some of these companies that buy and rent residential. But secondly you, fundamentally, do not understand what ownership means. Blackrock does not own a controlling stake (more than 50%…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:28 PM
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Uh, plenty of childless people have held positions of power and influence. They still care about other people and families and the future, what's with this weird insistence that they don't?? Stop listening to what people say and instead watch what they DO. Also, you are right that I'm saying Cat Ladies, but what I mean is Cat People. Nothing they do is good for children. I have not seen even 1 policy come from this group that actually works. It's all bullshit claims, they take tons of money and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:19 PM
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They don't 🌝 That's not how supply and demand works 🌝 Hahaha... Larry Fink said the same thing. Then I noticed for 4 years almost 20-30% of all home purchases were from institutional investors. I look up the companies who are buying houses and... sure as shit a good chunk of them are owned by BlackRock. "BlackRock doesn't buy single family homes"... sure, but the companies they own DO. Anyone who isn't an idiot can look at the collapse of Commercial Real Estate values and then see that the capit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:10 PM
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You are welcome! I have always felt you make this space better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:03 PM
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We didn't diagnose the same way in the past. What are the chances Sir Isaac Newton was on the spectrum? What is most of the great inventors of the past were as well? Actually, I think there is a chance Newton was not only on the spectrum but also gay... but that's a discussion for another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:01 PM
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Nah it's actually pretty great though. Our material lives are better, but our social and spiritual lives are deteriorating rapidly. There is also a looming Totalitarianism building, and public safety has been cut in half since 2010 in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:58 PM
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A family is a fundamental part of the American dream, and the dream of most countries. I think that's why the government being run by Cat Ladies comment hits so hard. It's not that there is anything wrong with being a cat lady, it's just that people like that don't give a shit about the future and don't understand what is required to run a family... and so they are totally unqualified to actually be in charge of how our government handles these issues. You can look at what they do in office and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:55 PM
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LOL... Yeah the cost of housing is not going up, Blackrock does not buy up whole zip codes and then jack rents through the roof. I'm so tired of the Urban Monoculture fools. You aren't going to convince people that thier life experiences aren't real. When they show up at a terriyaki shop they used to frequent in 2019 and find the price has doubled, and then you tell them inflation is only 3%... they aren't stupid, they won't believe you. Well... I take that back. Some of them ARE stupid and do b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:50 PM
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“Generally masculine” can include having a masculine appearance, masculine mannerisms, and even choosing to opt in to certain masculine coded roles so long as they are not harming your mental health or harming others. It’s like the difference between being assertive vs. being aggressive. They are not the same thing. For women to be able to see the difference between assertive and aggressive requires either some kind of parental example/teaching or experience. Otherwise I completely agree with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:42 PM
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I think when women are very young (teens) they tend to confuse dark triad traits for masculine traits. The main issue with the Red Pill... and this has been from day 1, is that it hyper focuses on College age women. It's partly because the ideas were formed by men in that age group originally, but also because a lot of guys really want to chase that age group hard and idealize it. I think as you also once pointed out... the Red Pill is almost exclusively a thing for the English Speaking world, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:26 PM
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Men who are naturally not dominant or naturally not too competent would probably do better dating women less dominant and less competent than himself. Uncomfortable reality, but sort of true. LOL.. I was raised to be a soft guy.... a people pleaser. As a result, I was VERY attracted to dominant women. Dating them when I was younger really felt like riding a shark, where one slip up and they would eat me alive. Most of us would see this as a bad thing, but over time it really allowed me to overco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:11 PM
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We have structured society so that it doesn't really matter what I think or how I feel. Reproduction is the number one goal of all life and the ability to do so determines all of your value. If you don't believe that, or want other people to think differently... then you better be out on the street corner telling people about God. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrit. These are things we MUST do in order to be successful, and it's the most important thing in life. The other option is to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:57 PM
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It's just not being able to tell between key traits. Confidence vs Arrogance and stuff like that. This has been Red Pill theory for over a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:01 PM
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An example of toxic masculinity would be repression of emotions, and the stigma that created on mental health care for men. Anger is the primary emotion that I repress. I find people tend to be very uncomfortable with male expressions of anger. Actually, repressing is not really what I do. It's better described as compartmentalizing. I do this with a lot of stuff like anxiety as well. Are you sure that this is toxic? Male suicide rates would be evidence of this. I thought about this a lot over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:00 PM
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But in general single fathers are meet with less hostility and controversy. I think provided the moms are actually in the kids life and are paying the required amount of child support, people would generally see this as a positive. I really don't think the goal is to have single parents though. Maybe multigenerational living could solve a lot of issues that children face in single parent homes? But ultimately the goal needs to be to keep families together. Especially boys, since theirs this beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:23 PM
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Why does the male peacock have colorful feathers, puff them up, and do a mating dance? This is clearly a huge detriment to thier long term survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:11 PM
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when you know them in real life, its easier to know that the little things are outweighed by their personality (if thats the case). This is why online dating is failing people so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:59 PM
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You can be physically attractive, generally “masculine,” and avoid engaging in toxic behavior. Explain what you mean by generally masculine, and toxic behavior. Also, are you implying some kind of universal physical attractiveness that men can have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:57 PM
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I think you need to explain two things, first how it causes harm, and second why that harm is worse than any benefit that it provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:54 PM
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I believe that a minority of women specifically like bad boys. I think most young women go through this as a phase. It lasts forever with some.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:47 PM
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LOL... Listening to people who have successful relationships is wise, while the rest of us just listen to bitter losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:45 PM
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I got married at 20 someone that I started dating at 18. I was in university at the time. I really feel like it's going to be difficult for you because while he is probably going to grow into a fantastic man, that process can be bumpy and rough... sometimes leave you feeling like you are raising a kid at times. Usually age 22-25 is the worst for this after university. So, you will have to be mentally prepared to deal with this... sometimes pay for him and sometimes teach him/lead him into being …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:19 PM
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The more I read your stuff, the more I get the sense you are brilliant at understanding peopel and seeing the clear path to conflict resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:11 PM
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How I see it, is that this rhetoric, similar to the use of the word Cuck, is used to essentially brand these men as both losers and inadvertent traitors. The obvious implication is that the men should therefore give up simping and join with other men in solidarity. That idea has some value. Men should stand together against a lot of this bullshit and we should be attacking men who support things like telling little boys they are defective because they have masculine desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:36 PM
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China is neither western nor feminist in nature. Most of Asia absolutely demands that women become worthy, and places inherent value on boys and men who can carry on the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:32 PM
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What makes you think she didn’t come from purity culture? Plenty of feminists are influenced by purity culture and have internalized misogyny. Plenty of feminists expect men to subscribe to traditional gender roles. Anti-feminists point this out often, and it’s true. Many don’t but many do. You can’t totally escape culture. This is just silly. She could have been raised on the moon by aliens and Feminists would claim she absorbed purity culture through radio waves or something. You can recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:36 PM
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The one I was raised in definitely was telling me from the time that I was a teenager that a woman's job was to keep her husband happy, and that "wifely duties" (said differently, but the same concept) were absolutely a thing if you want to be a good and godly wife Did they tell you explicitly or is this a conclusion you came to based on their overall model of how to be a wife? I'm sorry the church you went to tried to make you feel shitty about taking care of your sexual needs solo, that's fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:47 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:40 PM
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If you want kids, then traditionally 32 is about the last shot before it that's getting hard... and women are rated based on thier fertility more than pretty much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:54 AM
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Fucking A! You people are just crazy as shit! No, they don't. My Xwife made me go through all those shitty fucking classes in one of the most strict fundamentalist churches in the country and that absolutely was NOT something they taught. If it happens it's done by individual families, but I've never even heard somone say this shit and I spent 7 years with them. Do you know what they told me? They told me that I need to do whatever my Xwife felt like doing and that I wasn't allowed to watch porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:13 AM
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Of course it’s cultural. Why would women be afraid to admit they like sex? That’s cultural. There’s no biological reason to pretend to not like sex. That won’t help propogate the species. I feel like you don't know any of these women. Don't make the mistake of assume all women are just like you. Some women like high levels of pursuit, some like high levels of force, some are asexual, some like to chase you around the bed. If you know one woman, you know one woman. The TikTok girl is not a virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:51 AM
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I think you have no experience in this thing. I actually converted for a woman in this culture and married her. All of her friends and their husbands are actually still good friends of mine today. Since I got divorced about 14 years ago, I've dated a lot of women who will dead bedroom you really fast if you aren't aggressive enough. None of them are part of purity culture. The issues with the purity stuff is NOT sexual. That part actually works out great for most people. The real problem is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:05 AM
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It’s fun 🤩 so a lot more sexually liberated girls playing into it No, women who enter marriage after purity culture have sex 3 to 4 times a week on average even decades after marriage. The husbands are not sexually aggressive men. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but purity culture is NOT the most likely cause. Where you do see an insane amount of dead bedroom issues and men complaining about having to damn near be a rapist to get laid... is with high dominance women. Older guys would call them…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:00 AM
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A lot of this comes from purity culture where women aren’t supposed to desire sex. I hear feminists say this stuff all the time, but it's just cope because they hate purity culture. Almost every study that has ever looked at the topic shows a correlation between women with dominant personalities, and the amount of force they desire in beginning sexual encounters. Women like that are toxic. Men who assume women mean “try harder” when they say no are toxic as well By believing this is something ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:47 PM
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gender roles What if it's deeper than that? What if maybe it's an effect of testosterone on the brain? to dominate is to be masculine (in our toxic worldview) This is a fact. so when a man feels insecure, the ways he can assure himself (and others) that he is masculine is by acting out w violence and/or dominating others I think this is true, and it's so true that people seriously need to talk about it much, much more. When I was young, and very insecure, I did feel more desire to control what o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:02 PM
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I share this belief. I wonder why though? Is it from childhood trauma or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:51 PM
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I already covered the income aspect, that not having kids means + having my own business = I don't view men as providers, since I'm already providing for myself. So, in your opinion, the desire for a man who has higher income than herself is driven primarily by a need to provide for children? Or do you see it as more driven by a desire for a certain level of status or lifestyle? I don't like tall men, they inherently make me feel like I'm being loomed over and it's disturbing. It may go back to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:19 PM
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I'm pretty lucky, on an individual level, to be childfree and to own my business and be debt free...it means I don't care about any man's money or career or status. This leaves those "slots" open for totally different priorities. Most women just lean heavier into height, income, and looks, from what I see. I wonder if not wanting, or not being able to have children changes that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:26 PM
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Neither of us had such beliefs. There was a strong desire for intimacy... and I think maybe also for her a chance to give her controlling abusive father the middle finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:09 PM
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Yeah I’m not doing this. Violence and extermination has been done in the name of every Abrahamic sect. The Crusades were not peaceful and annihilated ancient cultures and history like squashing bugs, and also oppressed and continues to oppress people of color and women. Get outta here with that “Christians are peaceful” horseshit, thousands of cultures, languages, texts, and structures were destroyed in the search for gold and domination Christians called “witnessing”. What you mean to say is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:08 PM
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It was changing as the middle class was growing, but now it's backsliding post COVID with the economies shrinking. I don't think anyone is currently prepared for what happens if a huge global recession hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:55 PM
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What is the comparative decline for women? Looks like 3.9 at N count 1, to 3.7 at N count 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:53 PM
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If you were facing a situation where before marriage a female member of your future husbands family is expected to confirm your virginity... you might think about this differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:43 PM
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Some cultures have not really caught up to changes in technology. I had a friend who did NGO work in Africa and they would have women just beg and beg for birth control. When they gave it to them, they would go home and thier husbands would beat them for it and throw it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:40 PM
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I just don't understand the western atheist hatred for soft peaceful Christians, and the love for an Islam that will literally behead you for living the way you want. I wasn't interested in finding a religious loophole for her or myself, the goal was avoid long term issues for HER with the religious nutters in her community, while her family considered my marriage proposal. This wasn't because she believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:38 PM
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(and I am particularly NOT usually a fan of "Paul") Paul just endlessly repeats what Jesus taught. That's the whole New Testament in fact. It's kind of like if you don't like one, then you don't like any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:30 PM
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There are rich celebrities whose wives cheat on them and theirs probably nothing low value about them. I’m simply trying to say, you should be with someone not because of their sexual choices but because you actually really fuck with them. I genuinely think if I had a homie we could live together, of course we’d never have sex though, cause i’m not gay. Damn sure i’m not gonna be like hey bro you can’t be fucking all these women! Like Will Smith? That poor fucker went from well respected to ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:23 PM
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That is probably correct. I don't know, I have dated a woman who claimed to like it a lot, but she was also cool with never doing it... for whatever that is worth..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't argue with you on that point. However, if you are dealing with a culture that has virginity hyseria... you gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:06 PM
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This is a feminist line of thinking whereby "male sexuality" is dirty. It's incorrect in so many ways, and like most of the other stuff feminists say, it's just their own fantasy. The key factor here is that male sexuality is seen as dominant and female sexuality as submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:03 PM
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If you think about it, there are just so many other things that women are trying to get in a man that this tends to get pushed to the side frequently. Since I'm a guy who has a really high number... I know what kind of impact that has, and in my personal opinion most women should put it at your priority level. It should be more important than income or height... but rarely is. I think people are fooling themselves when they measure this against relationship satisfaction. That is important for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:58 PM
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I have it on good authority that neither Moses Nor St Peter will let that slide. At the time we were only worried about what Mohammad would say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:55 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:45 PM
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I suspect some guys are just curious to see how it feels. I've also seen some porn scenes with this and I just notice the actresses portraying the feeling of pain. I wonder if that play into it in any way. As for myself... I tried it once. It took a lot of prep, including some pre-stretching, and she still found it painful, and I didn't particularly enjoy it myself. I have zero interest in this. I suspect I just don't watch enough porn, or it may also be that my kinks lie in other directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:41 PM
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The benefits are you can usually skip the condom, and it's got a little bit different feel to it, and your partner can technically remain a virgin. The negatives are... Yeah it takes a lot of prep and even if you do that it can still both stink and miss some stuff. Also... it can be pretty painful for the woman especially if you are on the bigger side. I wonder if the attraction some guys have to this has less to do with the feel, and more to do with... let's just say the power implications of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:29 PM
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I don't think that's actually what it says. Look at the graphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:21 PM
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I'm just saying that men who think like this do so not because they are intelligent but because they are low value. Why would your wife want to go fuck other men? Because you aren't getting it done. An intelligent man would look at this situation, realize the potential for STDs, pregnancy, falling in love with another man and leaving, and simply effort/resources going towards other males and realize the high probability of disaster. It takes a low intelligence man to just do whatever the woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:06 PM
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That difference in priority has a HUGE impact though. I suspect that all the women freaking out over getting judged on this... what they are actually struggling with is understanding why it's such a high priority for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:55 PM
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It isn't a double standard. This is why you are wrong about intelligent men being able to deal with their partners fucking other people. This is a polyamory argument and I've messed around with this community a lot. It's not about intelligence, it's about weakness. Pathetic and weak males twist themselves around mentally until they can enjoy watching thier woman with other men... also a lot of them are very bisexual. On the otheer end, there are very masculine men who just don't care that much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:02 PM
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I'm a woman, and despite some dudes here claiming that "women never care about men's high N", I'm vehemently against dating any man who's had a lot of casual sex partners. Studies have been showing that women and men both seem to prefer partners with about 3-4 past sexual partners for marriage. The difference is that women just don't care quite as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:55 PM
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well yeah having extra money to throw at problems is way better than dealing w problems directly i dont disagree with that I think it's important to have a good relationship with money. When you have a lot of things you want... then it can lead to an obession with money. Or when you start to see money as a form of status. Money is a byproduct of doing things other people find valuable. Once you acquire it... then you should make it work for you. i'm going to be forced to do my best with my paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:52 PM
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no i'd rather die than shoot someone 🤷‍♀️ One of the things about having a weapon on premise is that when confronted with a gun, most intruders immediately flee. Also, when you are in public it doesn't just protect you, but also the people around you. In my opinion death isn't the thing to worry about... it's what they do to you before you die that scares me. might be able to do this at some point, like if i think about how an intruder might hurt my dog lol. but i'm not there yet. LOL... This ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:16 PM
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Haha... I assume that means you have your concealed carry license.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:34 PM
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Post your situation and I will give you some ideas. This is not a simple thing, and it changes based on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:15 PM
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I was referencing China and Vietnam primarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:01 PM
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I was sleepy and inarticulate. My point is that living alone isn't enough to be safe, with the direction most places are going.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:01 PM
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Well... I'm destined for it since my sister is completely useless. Both of my parents are a royal pain in the butt. My mom is infuriating and crazy, my dad is the most stubborn and messy man on planet earth... but also extremely generous. Still, with joy comes suffering, and pleasure needs pain. So, I'm resolved to pay the best caretakers available to deal with them when the time comes. 🤣🤣 It is true that money cannot buy happiness, but it can definitely make problems easier to solve. I hope you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:59 PM
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It all depends on where you live and how orderly the society around you is... most western nations are moving towards disorder at a rapid pace. The UK for some reason has gone from essentially 2 to 6,000 rapes at knifepoint a year. I know everyone tosses out the stats that men you live with are the most dangerous... but that's highly misleading. Because socioeconomics are a huge contributing factor. Also.... as you stated, you can always just choose to remain apart. So you can have some control …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:23 AM
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I'm not that pessimistic on it really. You get heavy parental investment... they really make sure you succeed in life and you inherit. Plus they help you with kids all the way... free childcare and such. But like everything in life if your parents are crap... it sucks, but if they are great it's awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:24 AM
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Have you ever considered that it isn't an accident? That maybe some people benefit from putting young men at a disadvantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:53 AM
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My cousin is 500 pounds and has a body count of 3. His current GF isn't a raving beauty, but not horrible either. His primary trait is being very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:36 AM
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It makes no sense in modern terms because our system has been capitalist for so long. I've spent time in communist countries... more than one actually. Children are your most important investment. There is no social security, no 401k, no pension plans. Everyone knows they will age and that the hard physical labor will become impossible... and that your children will care for you. Those without Children are people in a precarious position and no long term future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:17 AM
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I used to volunteer with this group that finds housing for the homeless. My part was getting employers to give them jobs to help them get back on track. All I can say is that the streets are so unsafe. In a choice between home and streets... your home would have to be really bad to be less safe than the streets. I met women that took insane... truly insane abuse on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:39 PM
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My face isn't that great, but I do extremely well. Of course I was invisible before I learned game. Face is important for sure, but maybe less important than body, and neither are as important as charm and verbal ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:21 PM
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I grew up surrounded by that lie. I have a hard time blaming these guys who fall into it. A lot of times they don't want to be stuck is this castrated male zone, it's just the confidence that boys should be given as part of the growing up process has been replaced with shame and attacks on thier sexuality. How can you expect them to respond in any other way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:17 PM
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So... you are saying that you are wrong and it's not 100% just your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:58 PM
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If you really believe that shit... then go find a woman who likes your face and stop whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:45 PM
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If you like her then she should know and not do this. If you don't like her in that way, you should laugh your butt off and tell her exactly where she stands with this guy. Men only run into issues when they try to play gay bestie and secretly have an attraction, which is a strategy we should all despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:23 PM
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You HAVE to flirt. You must make them know your intent. Also if you go out with some female friends and can't find your way into their discussion... that's on you kid. Learn how to talk to people. Don't be boring, be funny, be passionate, be interesting. You have to find your voice and not be a wallflower.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:17 PM
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Not really. I've been through periods of being quite the social butterfly, periods of being a bit of a hermit, and now my current situation which I would describe as social butterfly with strong boundaries. Nor for the record were my friends. I think it's always a little funny that men think if you don't want piles of unrequested attention you must be introverted. Even though definitionally, extroversion is just about having your battery filled by socializing...it doesn't say socializing with ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:49 PM
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It's not a conspiracy of an entire gender. Like imagine how insane you sound when you say "women want" as if my wife, who is not American, does not live in America, is showhow living her life to serve some American feminist agenda or making decisions to help "women" win "against men". People like that sound batshit insane to everyone who isn't some psychotic, always-online gender warrior. The core issue here is that poeple just aren't talking about you or your situation on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:57 PM
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That changes everything. I know for fact you have put up with some Bullshit! NYC is pure insanity for this stuff. I spent a month with my friend NYC Mike... and the stuff I watched guys do... well let's just say they wouldn't even dream of saying or doing that shit in Afghanistan. In my opinion it's the hardest city in the world to be a single woman. You have my full sympathy! I mean that with sincerity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:36 AM
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I've never online dated or used apps and yes, I'm older than a Zoomer. And I was not someone who enjoyed being approached by lots of men, nor were any women I know. Has anyone ever accused you of being an introvert? So, you are within my generation, but probably on the younger end of it. You know we are really like two entirely separate generations smushed together, with 9/11 being a defining point for the older ones and the 08' economic crash defining the younger ones. I think a lot of folks he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:32 AM
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I can totally imagine that you've never been hit on and only been harrassed in your life. It's true for a lot of women. Cold approach almost died , only remains the catcall / harassment. I can only assume she is an Australian NGO worker left behind in Afghanistan or something... thinks all men are Taliban Bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:12 AM
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Yeah the other cold approach is a cocky guy pulling obvious pua bullshit at me Do you by any chance live in Iran? I think the guy you are describing just sucks. The answer isn't to shut it all down and make everyone miserable. The answer is to teach these guys how to not be assholes... and I think they are being assholes because we shut this stuff down too much and they don't have social skills anymore. OR... maybe you are living in Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:11 AM
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Just because it's funny to you, doesn't mean it's funny to other people. You have to prepare people to laugh. You have to put them at ease and let them know a joke is coming... that increases your success rate by wide margins. Watch comedians and find one that fits your sense of humor too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:00 AM
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I'm not special. Just be friendly. Eventually you will have one that is interested. This fatalism is just lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:57 PM
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Cold approach is just having a conversation. That’s literally it. You just talk, flirt and lil, and if she responds well, you keep going. Nailed it! Your goal should be to have a fun conversation. If something come of it... great.. if not... that's fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:55 PM
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It spans a pretty wide period of my life. I was only dedicating serious time to it while I was learning. Once you get the hang of it... you just do this wherever you go. Airports, bus stops, grocery stores, walking down the street, sporting events... ect. A lot of the time I'm with male friends too, and that can help or hurt depending on the guy. I have a tall fit introverted male model looking friend, and I've accidentally gotten him at least 10 dates over the last 5 years. I really can't count…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:54 PM
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Women get the government and society to treat them somewhere between a child and an adult. We coddle them but then also bend to their whims and treat their opinions as very important. Its a very weird and confusing social circumstance but yeah, artificially giving women resources was somewhat noble of a goal but has led to a lot of men’s suffering sadly It's a status game to them. They want the status that men achieve through hard work, but don't want to actually put in the effort themselves. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:35 PM
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Western feminism is a niche movement run by a small amount of people while most of the women who claim to be "feminists" don't even care about the movement or pay any attention to it. Additionally, outside of your American bubble, feminism doesn't even mean the same things it does in your culture. I'm only talking about the US. Feminism is not a "conspiratorial movement" of women as it represents a tiny percentage of women and there are bunch of men who are feminists too. There is no gender cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:30 PM
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I started back in... I did some as early as 2009, but I was absolutely terrible. I focused mostly on bars and nightclubs and just relied 100% on being not ugly, in fantastic shape, and wearing extremely expensive name brand clothes. I would usually talk to between 20 and 30 women in an evening. I had some kind of success every time. Usually telephone numbers. I had just been divorced, I was mid-20s, and my cheating xWife had just driven my self worth 6 feet under the ground and buried it. I wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:20 PM
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But cold approaching just realistically won't go well. Women aren't going to put up with the level of constant persistent annoyance that would come with every strange man with a full sack shooting his shot at her, so they're likely to become increasingly verbally and emotionally brutal to would be suitors. They'll also become more avoidant of entering the public sphere simply to avoid this sort of flood of unwelcome dick. Are you old enough to remember what it was like before online dating and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:14 PM
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Bro i just want to be left alone. I already get cold approached and its always awkward and tbh i hate being called ‘cute’, ‘little lady’, or told a stranger saw me and got a boner None of that is cold approach... that's like a step above catcalling... or maybe a step below. You have to be making this up... or live somewhere crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:11 PM
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Having done this maybe 1000 times or more... this is completely incorrect. First, as a general rule, if you are polite to women, they will be very polite to you. In this regard they are 1000% better than men. Second, yeah you will get a lot of rejection... especially up front and especially depeding on how you do this. If you just walk up to a woman and say something like "Hey want to fuck?", yeah you are going to get shot down almost all the time, even if you are really handsome, plus some of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:07 PM
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I hope you are in the US. While many of us want to slow down immigration, very few of us want to stop it. I think there has developed especially among the rural cowboy types a special love for Central and South American immigrants. I think it's almost impossible to have hard working folks who share most of your values, sometimes even attend the same church, even if the language is different, and not come to deeply appreciate them. Anyone who is old enough remembers when all of these towns were d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:37 PM
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It's the men in power who seek these ends, not women. Women for their part couldn't care less. Flooding a nation with foreigners is the hallmark of a tyrannical system of government that was first commented on by Aristotle over 2,000 years ago. Think about this... Aristotle taught perhaps the most effective tyrant in world history. A man who practically burned down the wealthiest and most powerful empire in the world... and did such a fantastic job of propaganda that we call him "The Great", and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:31 PM
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You know they did studies and found that negging works on a percentage of both men and women? But no, I'm not talking about negging specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:02 PM
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You are talking about physicians and nurses. I'm talking about HR directors. I think when you are talking about really talented high performing people, we are talking about 5% of the male population and maybe 1% of the female population. When you look at the best of the best, in my industry it's 50% male and 50% female.... and that's because the 1% of talented women are just absolute ballers. That's just my experience. However, the number of mediocre to shitty people in general at the top is unb…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:59 PM
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First class people usually build thier own companies. Second class people claw their way up through static bureacracies. It's should not be a surprise to anyone that people like Vladimir Putin come from highly bureacratic positions and surround themselves with corrupt morons. This is a common issue of most dictatorships... talented, ambitious people are super dangerous if you want to stay on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:51 PM
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There are good ways and bad ways. I think anytime you do this with negativity... it's highly unnattractive and only works on a small subset. So, you have to approach this with a very positive energy and a lot of playfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:47 PM
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Listen, I've spent enough time dealing with C-Suite executives and the people under them to recognize something very interesting about DEI and men at the very top. These guys, and sometimes gals in the C - Suite... they don't want people under them who are competent and who can challenge them. This goes DOUBLE for government bureacracies. So more passive, more incompetent, less ambitious women are getting promoted up fast to all these high positions. The problem is that it literally is killing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:15 PM
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That's because you don't have basic reading comprehension skills. My point is nothing about averages, it's about the delusional conspiratard mentality that women or men are a collective hivemend intentionally working to a particular goal, or that individual men and women actually care about the "collective benefit" of their gender when they make choices. Look, women DO have this conspiratorial movement that is intesely powerful. It's called Feminism, and it has almost completely remodeled our so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:54 PM
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You have to knock them down a peg first. That's really the key here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:02 AM
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Their collective preferences are fucking everyone over BUT women would prefer sharing an attractive man or being single to being with a man she deems as low I think this is artificial. If the DEI shit went away and suddently women couldn't get mad promotions and extra pay for nothing... and they had to actually work for shit, they would drop careers like crazy. Look at how the flock to bureaucracies and dominate them. That isn't natural. Also, a lot of them are just brainwashed by feminism into …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:00 AM
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Why do you think they are all about open borders policies and letting in as many single dudes as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:53 AM
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Have you been to one of those niche hobby clubs? The women flee like crazy as men start approaching them, because the guys feel like this is the only space they can do it in. The boys HAVE to start approaching in public spaces again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:52 AM
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You don't seem to understand how averages work. Like men are generally taller than women, but you have some men that are 5'6 and some women that are 5'10". Does that exception mean that the averages are wrong? This whole tirade seems rather silly. This isn't a personal advice subreddit where we talk about how to deal with one man, or one woman in particular. Instead we are talking about how people act and think in bulk, and as a general population does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:48 AM
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That description just fills my heart! So happy for you. My grandparents were matched like that. Granma was 31, served in WW2 as an army secretary and had given up on meeting a man. Grandpa was a 28 year old farmer who had left university to take care of his 8 siblings and family farm when his father died. They married and loved one another until passing from this world in their 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:05 AM
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That is a serious benefit of older women. We don't say this enough to young boys. Older single women can be a blessing to date as a young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:19 AM
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My caveat is that I only have experience with Left wing politics, I just assume that it's the same on the other side, but these things are actually determined by voters and party infrastucture. I think whatever party dominates where you live is going to be mostly machine politics... which is where the issues come from. So take what I say with that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:08 PM
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Awesome! Way to go guy! Seriously, a lot of people don't realize it, but the more experienced and successful guys don't care much about the woman's experience. They learn that young in life and don't change for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:00 PM
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Your lifepath instantly and naturally avoids almost all of the dickweeds who only want sex. So, it feels way harder up front, but since you are only dealing with sincere men it gives you a head start. The faith connection is even another step forward. Having walked your path, my only really serious advice is that you make sure it's a guy you actually have attraction for. This might be different if you are asexual. The thing is that it's really easy to wind up having big sexual hangups, but hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:55 PM
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Let's not pretend this actually happens outside those raised in very closed and/or fundamentalist families. Fundamentalist raised guys are actually a step ahead the boys raised on porn. Most women in my experience really dislike the feeling of having to teach a guy what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:41 PM
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For me personally the answer is never. But I'm also religious and for the devout in my faith virginity is not a shameful thing. What in the world are you doing wasting your time on this sub for? I honestly think your answer is going to be the one that makes most men feel better. When I was in high school, I felt this immense pressure to sleep around and I just had so much bad stuff going on with my family... plus nobody was even remotely interested. However, when I got into college, there was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:36 AM
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I think when she asks him to find her clitorus and he starts looking through her closet... it might make him seem a bit inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:29 AM
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Thanks for saying I’m a good person. I’d like to think so as well. I just always thought about it as a kid. Ran for student office from 6th grade through high school. My father ran a political action committee for his union. I got into it way back at the age of 12. I did phone banking, door knocking. Eventually some illegal stuff too. The PAC usually had about half a million, more recently its one or two million. Mostly worked for local candidates and on local stuff. In college I got into the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:28 AM
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Guys were doing dumb shit too. Usually hiding money. But I just figured it was good to have a law degree for politics later in life. Don't go into politics. It's terrible and you sound like a good person. If you have any kind of moral system you would be like a hotdog in a shark tank. Only go into politics if you are either a corrupt amoral asshole, or an insane zealot like Pol Pot who thinks murdering a few million is Ok as long as the goal is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:04 AM
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With these women they accuse these men as sexuak predators and thus preserve their social standing among society. But this no pill person takes everything literally so good luck. Idiots are idiots. If you look at this through the lens of Status Theory... I think you are probably highly correct. I don't think it matters if they felt attraction or not. I think the female goal was to increase their own social status and gain empathy from a wide variety of men, by claiming to be hurt by another man.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:07 PM
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Actually... I think he is describing something that is very real here and you shouldn't just dismiss it out of hand. A historical example that we can consider is a white woman in the 1920s south who would accuse an innocent black man of rape, and then get him lynched. Why would a woman do that? What is the underlying motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:52 PM
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I practiced pickup for years. I've had women that thought I was ugly as fuck, find me irresistable by the end of the evening. Now, I'm going to say straight up... I'm noticing a difference with Gen Z women. I think they have been conditioned to hate and fear straight white, and straight asian men, so if you fall into this category, they will treat you like shit because they are part of a racist cult. That's the best way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:48 PM
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no, anyone who is that obsessed with needing to be perceived as independent is insecure. Nobody is, even career focused men/women need the company to not be doing illegal activities/people to provide their goods and services too I think your point here is actually very insightful. The need for independance comes from 2 main emotional drivers in my experience. The biggest one is status seeking in order to deal with insecurity. The other is an inability to trust men, which is partly ideological ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:43 PM
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That's because so many men interpret Stoicism as an attempt to become an unemotional robot. The environment in which stoicism was created, men watched their friends and family bleed to death on a battlefield constantly. Life was much shorter, and death was everywhere and lurked around every corner. Today everyone expects to live to 90 and distance themselves from death as much as possible. What you want to do is show women your postive emotions. When negative emotions come you need to be very ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:30 PM
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I’ve dated two men who immediately abandoned all their friends and hobbies and attached themselves to my side like a lantern fish. I cannot be someone’s sole source of entertainment, comfort, activities, affection, confidence, company, and sex. When a guy does this there can be several reasons. A few of them will go away quickly as the relationship progresses. Some like codependency are big problems, unless that's something you like. Many men believe the myth that women hate one another and a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:10 PM
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I think she would have to be really stupid to not know even before the first time. It's either there is high sexual attraction or low sexual attraction. It's perfectly reasonable to want the high end of that today. Nothing grants you any kind of protections against low affection in today's marriage contracts. We should just take the average escort price at $300 times 104 per year and then make that a payment requirement post divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:21 PM
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If you add extreme pickinesss which is usually a good thing, with millions of perceived options from social media... yes it does. How many women 18-30 have ever dated outside of thier preferred type? I bet it's under 50% right now, while for men it's 90% at the lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:08 PM
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But think for a hot minute about how this will affect the overall dating market. Is she going to swipe for the guy that doesn't fit her type when there are 1000s who do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:59 PM
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So... women who don't exist? One of the great things Christians are talking about right now is that being counter cultural means all the people who were going to church just so they can judge others and power trip... they all went Feminist now. If your mom is a Feminist you are almost guaranteed to have very poor mental health as an adult. Virtually all the sexless, jobless, struggling boys came from fucked up Feminist mom's. Polling data on this is solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:57 PM
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It's not about gender roles. I just proved that. It's about being a narcissistic asshole... which is why the Cat Lady term has bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:51 PM
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Ok, let's not be ridiculous. Just because a woman might be open to dating men of a different body type than is her preference doesn't take into account what is required to get to that point. She won't go for them on apps for sure. She won't accept them anytime there is a large social group.. like a concert. Won't accept him at first meeting on the street. Won't be interested in him as part of a distant social circle connection. So what's left? That's why there is so much disconnect. Women are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:49 PM
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For thousands of years if you raped a woman you could expect every man in her family and tribe to come and murder you in your sleep. Read the story of Dinah in the Bible. When women became fair game is when they had no male protection. When a woman lost the men who would fight for her, then she had 2 options... die or accept bottom tier status with a man who could provide protection. A lot of them just died.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:21 AM
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Look, women like this have always existed. Most of them had nice status and good lives. A few were horrible people and some burned as witches. What separates them is how they choose to spend thier lives. The nun dedicates herself to God and community spending her life alleviating the suffering of others. The horrible people just focus on themselves care about nobody else and live thier lives as selfish hedonists. The witches... those are the fucking childless cat ladies who dominate our culture.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:06 AM
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Fantasy style romance is only rare because you haven't written your book on Gravemaxxing! They say romance is dead, but once you teach people they can reanimate it by making love on their pretend mothers grave... the world's loneliness problem will be solved. The only issue will be finding gravestones that aren't being used by a couple. Sometimes I miss that crazy guy. Like PPD was so much better with that air of pure insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:38 AM
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How foolish! First the Harris name is from her white ancestor. Second the marriage was in the 1940s and slavery ended about 100 years before that in Jamaica. Not only that. My family has been in the US for over 200 years and the Virginia branch of our family split in half because there were 4 brothers just before the civil war. 2 of them fell in love with Free Black Women and moved to Jaimaica to get married. One was a doctor the other an architect. The other 2 brothers moved to Kansas. There wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:07 PM
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Lol... so they are racist equivalents. I won't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:59 PM
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More racist than forcing segregation on your donors? Harris is the descendant of Plantation owners and has retained that mindset with her racial caste system views. She kept innocent black people in prison for political gain as a prosecutor and also refused to release black men from prison for smoking pot because her campaign donors were using them for prison labor. These are all known facts and even BLM wants an open convention. Democrats need a different team. The media cannot run cover for 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:47 PM
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Lol... looks like it's posted next to a homeless encampment. But seriously more men should try this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:23 PM
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:20 PM
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Sorry, but when I used to play Halo I got treated worse than that lady and I didn't get all butt hurt about it. Guys talk to each other in these ways, I feel like if you can't handle it then don't enter the voice chat... or play on the Japanese team.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:17 PM
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Uh... looks like a 14 year old and with the body of an 8 year old. Any kind of attraction to that should trigger an FBI investigation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:07 PM
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Not happening 2. Has been going on since the beginning of time 3. Also not happening US the stakes are too low for conservatives to fight a left wing takeover at this level point and our immigrants are generally awesome. UK is run by racists who intentionally allow immigrant rape gangs to run around terrorizing poor communities... still these people are considered peasants and have no power so no fighting. 4. The people who talk most about income inequality are also the most responsible for grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:38 PM
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If you apply woke monoculture thinking to it... yes... and the answer would be state intervention and distribution. Do you understand now why you hear all these boys talk about government forced marriage programs? They are just applying Feminist thought to thier own situation. It highlights what pure foolishness the feminist movement is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:19 PM
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LOL... in otherwords you are a devotee but not intelligent enough to defend it. That's fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:12 PM
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No, hypergamy is about status and status is changing. Wealth and position mean less than before. Looks status and masculinity status are much more rare... so hypergamy is shifting that direction. This is why all the women will not date men that are looksmatch and they call themselves a 10 and try to date male models.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:16 PM
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If you can afford a sugar baby then technically it's all you need. But how many have got that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:12 PM
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Totally incorrect for almost all of history and prehistory. The term slut itself was originally used to describe men who were amoral slobs. We can see that use in the Canterbury Tales. By the late middle ages it's applied to prostitutes. It's essentially a reputation attack. It wasn't used to control sex or sex work, because that was performed by women from the very bottom of society and there was plenty available... often managed by the Church in a lot of places in Europe. Instead this is a rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:04 PM
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Bro, the whole culture is looking at everything from a NeoMarxist viewpoint. Power = Oppression If women have power over sex, they therefore are sexual oppressors of men. This is why most woke arguments are entirely ridiculous when looked at closely and they drive people to feel situations are unfair that actually are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:39 AM
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In TRP terms, “you can’t negotiate attraction,” so why are TRPers here doing this? Because they obviously are not Red Pill. They are black pill. How much clearer can you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:51 PM
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i mean trump says this is the last time people will have to vote for him, so that sounds like an ideological dictator to me. I hated that guy since the 1990s. churches promote this tho. i literally this weekend read a church's "about me" section and the first belief they list is to assume the best of others. this is cult like and not biblical. jesus wanted people to be discerning and not fall for the pharisees bullshit, not to just believe everything religious leaders tell them. How much do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:49 PM
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yes. this is one of the main reasons i am against it. the other being that the best information will come from the people actually affected. There is an important human skill we are missing here. Listening to what other people say is just step one. The second step is to really do your best to put yourself in that person's shoes and see the world through their perspective while understanding and removing as much of your own bias as possible. The third step is to then be able to judge that person'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:49 PM
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LOL... it won't let me comment, so I broke it into 2 pieces. Best wishes friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:48 PM
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Well, back then PUA was very focused on clubs and party girls. I wouldn't disagree with anything you say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:43 PM
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Men have the habit of working hard to impress women and display competence in the beginning, then drop the act the minute they are married. Any ideas on what makes them feel like they have to do this? I think they drop the act LONG before they get married. Post marriage is where women tend to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:19 PM
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Yeah, I don't care too much about that stuff. Everyone knows that there is no rapture coming. Faith of any sorts in something higher is the enemy of the powerful. It keeps them from driving you into your base materialist self. I think you either see through the social programming or your mind is captured by it and you cannot break free. I believe none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:05 PM
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You think that changes in the structure of school and society had no role in it? We can measure all of these trends going all the way back to the mid 1970s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:46 PM
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Mostly correct. I did have it's moment, and it was positive when it had an empasis on self improvement. However, the wave of Black Pill boys from Gen Z and later Millenials just could never have been predicted. The Red Pill had it's origin as you say in club culture of the mid 2000's. Who knew at that point Feminists would do a power grab of the entire public school system and general culture... then use that power to turn every institution into a dystopian hellscape for young men? Who could hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:35 PM
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Sometimes I get a chance to help out one of the black pill boys… helo get them moving on the right track again. Why are you concerned?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:39 AM
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I didnt preface my statement well, so jt seems confusing. I need to stop trying to do 2 things at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:34 AM
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Im an Elder Millennial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:31 AM
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Did you read it? If you are talking to a woman and she starts staring at another man, are you going to try harder? If she suddenly gets up while you are in mid sentence to go talk to another man, are you going to follow? I’m more likely to throw my drink in her face, than play her games. I have no problem telling someone when they are rude… and at that point the best she could ever get out of me is being a fuckbuddy. Even friendship is off the table. If I’m buying a round of drinks for everyone……
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:28 AM
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Fuck, that’s a solid comeback!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:21 AM
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If you desperately want to believe in something. Look at all the communists… But me, I don’t believe anything anyone says ever. I’m Jaded like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:18 AM
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Are you kidding? It’s entirely socially acceptable for women to say incredibly terrible things about men in general. It happens all the time in TV, print, real life. It’s such a constant thing that you just tune it out. I remember one of my first trips to Asia… it dawned on me that I hadn’t heard or seen negative male stereotypes in a month while I was there and it really made me feel welcomed, probably for one of the first times I felt like I was in a place that wanted me. And it was all due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:14 AM
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Why don’t you go take a look at the absolute batshit crazy stuff they post on AksFeminists. It’s so stupid and hateful it should be illegal, but it’s not… actually it’s socially acceptable to rag on all men publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:11 AM
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The basic idea of the red pill is to show you reality is different from the feminist social programming they beat into you as a boy. The only topic this pertains to is dating and sex. People try to apply it to relationships but it’s never been rigorously tested and most of it doesn’t apply. If you read red pill stuff it should make you feel motivated and excited to try something new and achieve. If you read something and it makes you angry, or depressed, that’s usually black pill content. The go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:08 AM
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When have you known the average woman to recognize reality? That's why when I find a woman who can see the truth for what it is... I keep her in my life even if it's just as a friend. I find it's much more common outiside of the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:22 AM
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I know this seems silly, but it makes a certain amount of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:02 AM
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good. men shouldn't call themselves feminists. no offense intended, i just don't believe in allies (i dont call myself a gay rights ally, for instance, even though this is a deeply personal cause for me, bc i am not gay). that abysmal post from a male feminist yesterday is a great example of why i think this, if you need one. No offense taken. I used to think of myself that way when I was young, but now I just consider myself someone who partially agrees with them. I completely agree with you re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:57 AM
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You sound like you have zero sense of humor. Enjoy your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:56 PM
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What in the People’s Wife is this shit 😂 By that logic, a man who’s ripped as hell who chooses to be single is “hoarding” resources when he chooses to live alone instead of building houses for people. There is nothing in Marxist or feminist thought to suggest that “hoarding” your own body is a crime against the lower class. Like… there’s no such thing as the pussy bourgeoise It's meant to be ludicrous. I'm mocking the ideas and words themselves. They make no sense in almost any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:22 PM
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In order to be a public middle school teacher today, a woman must find boys in the 10-14 category at peak attractivness. Sadly, you have disqualified yourself. Don't feel too bad, there are plenty of other great careers out there for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:15 PM
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So she is thinking that she wants to test his desire to be in the relationship and this will alleviate her insecurity. Most healthy men will accept her at face value and walk away. There are two primary kinds of men who will push back against this. The first type doesn't care what she wants, and this guy is going to push for the relationship no matter what she does. He will turn to stalking, crying, threats of suicide, guilt trips... whatever kind of emotional manipulation he can to make her sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:29 PM
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feminists don't want more hierarchy, feminists want to end hierarchy and live in communities where people care about each other, not where the powerful coerce the rest of us into doing what works for them My mom is a feminist, 2nd wave. I grew up around feminsts and I have this kind of general rule for how I deal with people. I stop listening to what they say, and then I watch what they DO. I see a lot of very intelligent and generally thoughtful feminists and what the DO is put themselves at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:32 PM
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Do you think every man who feels like that expresses it openly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:56 PM
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In that situation they want to orgasm. That just isn’t always the case. I’ve known some women that just don’t want to have to explain how they like it and men who struggle to understand what they mean when they do, so it’s just much easier as you say to do it themselves. But yeah there are also a lot of men who just don’t want to do it… and that’s usually when they feel like they are dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:55 PM
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I think that’s a fairly decent picture of how the dynamic of most societies work. But what happens when feminists make a deal with the most abusive and oppressive people at the top to give them power over the men of their social class? I’m sure the goal is utopian, but power does corrupt and there is a sizeable industry built around affirming everything they want is good, no matter how selfish and oppressive it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:50 PM
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Two things, they want to feel accepted (good enough), and they want to feel loved. Our culture way over emphasizes romantic love as a vehicle to these things. To redeem these guys the first thing they need is male friendships with more healthy or normal men. Forming anonymous connections with other rejected men online give them this feeling but it’s empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:46 PM
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Of course, they are just representatives of female teachers. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:54 PM
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Do you want me to be more specific? Sleeping with a man quickly doesn’t alter the overall equation too much. However if you aren’t good at making him feel like you are highly attracted to him… he’s going to assume you just do that with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:02 PM
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Unless of course you teach middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:58 PM
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lol… well there goes your career as a public school teacher!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:57 PM
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Gen Z hasn’t had a defining moment yet. Millennials only had two small ones. So this stuff isn’t set in stone yet. My strong suspicion is that a very large global recession isn’t too far away and the reaction to that is going to set that generations view on things… not that it really matters. I suspect they are tired of this form of government anyway. Yeah you are correct about owing things changing political perspectives somewhat. I think family formation is actually stronger as an indicator, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:52 PM
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Nothing. It wouldn’t change anything. Because that’s not what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:21 PM
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It’s one of those words where everyone’s definition is different. So if you want to understand what the other person is saying you have to ask. Also it’s economics not technically politics… although I understand why you describe it as such. You had mentioned that leftist sentiment is trending upwards among young people… but that’s primarily women. For boys and young men this looks like the most conservative generation in over 100 years because everyone starts out left and then drifts right over …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:20 PM
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Exactly, do you really want a guy who won’t take No for an answer? It sounds like a dangerous thing to be putting out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:05 PM
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Yeah, but my question is why. Why is one personality trait attractive and another not? How much of it is biology and how much learning and environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:03 PM
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How about you tell me what you think socialism looks like in practice, or communism if that’s your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:01 PM
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Well, the issue in my mind is that she is really trying to push men into not taking No for an answer… which is going to be applied to other parts of the relationship as well. It’s overall an unhealthy idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:59 PM
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I wouldn’t take it too seriously, it’s just a thought. Been thinking about the key drivers of attraction and this is all I’ve got at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:56 PM
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Hmmm… This sounds like you don’t understand how men work concerning dating. There are really 3 different ways a man will decide to deal with you. I know people tend to tell women that it’s all looks and personality doesn’t apply, but it’s not true. Once you catch his interest then your personality really decides both how much effort he will put in and what his goals are with you. The only time a guy is going to care about what you did before is when he decides to emotionally invest, and that’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:54 PM
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Wealth and power are not the same thing. We live in a place where power is less centralized, but most of those with power have coalesced around a core ideology that greatly serves their purpose. Corporate profits are a sideshow in my opinion. Think, Xi in China lets them make money, but he always gets his cut. That’s socialism in a nutshell. Feminism as a whole is just a way to create useful idiots. A united working class would shut down immigration so fast it’s insane and illegal migrants would…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:18 AM
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Hold on while I full body laugh at the ridiculousness! Socialism is just capitalism with more corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:05 AM
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Ever stop to think you and all the rest are just serving the goals of the men in charge, and that your real task is to kick lower class men around? Cause that’s all I see any feminist ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:59 AM
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She must be screening for nut jobs that don’t take No for an answer. I mean look, you go through some basic conflict resolution and if it doesn’t work… you bounce or kick her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:55 AM
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You can tell if you date for a while and you know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:52 AM
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Um statistically in the west like 80% of women try the one night stand thing. So even a lot of low n count women do it. The ones that hold out… look men are rarely going to assume it’s because she just doesn’t like sex. So the guys are going to see this as someone who had high mental fortitude, emotional strength, and honor. Such a woman will accomplish what she sets her mind to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:50 AM
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Do you find yourself attracted to men with no confidence? I feel like that is uncommon. What makes you feel sexual attracted to men that are conventionally ugly? Or maybe you can’t be. I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:39 AM
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That doesn’t work. Women are attracted to money only as a byproduct of other things. I’ve seen women shoot down rich weirdos all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:34 AM
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That totally misses the point. Assholes aren’t insecure and crazy people aren’t secure. This doesn’t even match the topic at hand. Look, part of the burden of being a man is that expressing insecurity is punished harshly particularly by women. A man who is maybe insecure about his partners past is treated like it’s his problem despite all studies and relevant data suggest it’s often a very valid concern. If a woman is insecure about her boyfriend’s past she is generally validated and told that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:32 AM
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Don't think about the personality traits that women like in a man who is attractive. Instead think about the personality traits that MAKE a man attractive. Confidence for example... men who have status and rank are confident, so this turns women on. Kindness, is a trait women want in an attractive man, but an ugly man with no confidence who is very kind... that guy will almost never be sexually attractive. The thing is that status is relational, and each woman has in her own mind the place where…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:39 AM
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You know... I've had this feeling for so long that all female sexual attraction comes down to status. Height, Looks, Personality Traits, Charm, Money... all of these things when you really boil them down to what they do... it's that they indicate status in something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:30 AM
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You have to cross the threshold or barrier. This is an ever changing target. In a pool of 10 men it's much lower than in a pool of 100. Today we have a pool of 10,000,000 and growing with social media. The answer is to get her to put her standards aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:24 AM
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The classical Greek philosophers identified 3 different types of love that men should pursue. Eros, which is the love you get from a sexual partner, typically a woman but to the Greeks also young boys and men could be in this category. This was the lowest and least important type of love. Philial love is the love between brothers and men. This was believed to be the foundation of civilization. The bonding of groups of men coming together to change the world, conquer nature, and topple great powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:18 AM
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No I’m saving myself for marriage I did the same thing. Although it didn't work out in the end for me, I believe that this gives you the best opportunity for long term happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:02 AM
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Cool but many of us just can’t enjoy sex in the scenario you mentioned. Yes, but you can turn it into cold hard cash at any point. That is power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:39 AM
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(85% for lesbian women) The frequency of sex and number of couples engaged means that if there were more lesbians and they had sex at the frequency of heterosexual couples... this number would probably closer to 50%. Of course this is complete conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:35 AM
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While men should always be working hard to close that gap, I think we also need to recognize that sometimes sex itself is the goal for some women and not the orgasm itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:30 AM
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No, No... you have this wrong. A privilege is a special right, or in this case a special advantage. That's another way of saying you have POWER over something. By typical Marxist/Feminist thought if you have POWER over the distribution of something and you then distribute it unequally then you are Opressing those who are recieving an unequal amount. I think this goes a long way towards showing how terrible this moral framework is and how we should completely abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:27 AM
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Do you know what would happen if all of those guys magically got laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:17 AM
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The very first thing you should work on in your ability to speak to people. It's absolutely fundamental to all relationships and it's a key signifier to a woman that your brain is high quality and functions well. The second thing is learning how to read women's body language. If you want long term relationships the next thing you should be doing is learning how to take care of yourself first... like really put yourself first. Gym time, solid grooming techniques, keep your space neat and organize…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:58 PM
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I think that makes perfect sense, but... what happens after that? What I have seen from dating is that people do what they practice doing. So if you practice this constantly ghosting or dumping people. If you practice using them for sex, or evaluating them almost entirely on sexual criteria, it's very hard for people to stop doing this. When the relationship runs into issues this is what they immediately turn to doing, and a couple of 1-2 year relationships after that phase does not change thier…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:19 PM
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The posers do today, but they are very low experience men. Shouldn’t you listen to the experiences men who have had crazy success?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:35 PM
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That is a very good question. Can you explain what you think is different about these different lifestyles? I personally do not care about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:18 PM
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I hear you. And obviously I do not want men to feel sad about this. But being a so called protector isn't as important to women as not being a dangerous person and calling out those who spread hate. It's not a binary where one is either Rambo protection or a predator. Just be decent to others without expecting a reward for it. Years ago this would have hit differently, but look around you. It's getting more dangerous not less. You need more protectors not fewer. Everything is moving towards low …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:16 PM
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Women are whining all the time about tons of stuff. By your standards if I very reasonably offer to pick a woman up at her home and drive her to our date, but she feels afraid and insecure about me knowing where she lives and being in a car with me... That she should just fucking get over it. Is that accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:47 PM
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Just came from a post where guys were complaining about women dressing provocatively in a relationship ; and through all the explanations and what ifs I couldn’t help but think to myself. ‘Why are you with this person in the first place’ seriously if you don’t want a girl who dresses provocatively do not pay attention to those women do not entertain them. LOL... I feel like you just hit some guy right between the eyes with a giant Logic Hammer. To be fair I see the same with women who knew the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:44 PM
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Ok, right now 70% of women identify as feminists... so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:38 PM
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LOL.. Church people are normal people. More normal that anyone here. What do you know about couples in public spaces? You see them and you know nothing about them or thier relationship. I'm pretty sure I once saw a happy looking couple in a public space and then the next day the husband was on the news for choking his wife to death... or maybe it was just a guy who looked a lot like him. Either way you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:36 PM
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Would you also apply that to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:33 PM
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I'm around church people all the time... no they divorce when required. The big difference is that they just seem to really like each other. It' probably comes from not seeing your husband as an evil oppressor or something. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:32 PM
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LOL... the joke with French Canadians is that they have to stay married, because nobody else will ever put up them. But yeah, that's basically what I was saying is that it's all social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:30 PM
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That is still, love as a temporary feeling, which provides the needed excuse for any bad behavior. It's alway comforting to think you can love and hurt and then love again when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:27 PM
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If you think love is just a temporary feeling, then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:46 PM
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People here are so quick to go to the negatives and ignore the majority of happy couples You mean church people. Well, if you don't go to church then you won't know many happy couples will you? I lived in LA for a few years and I don't think I met a happy couple even once that was straight while I was there. So, your social circle and where you live play a large role in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:45 PM
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Think about it. If I lock you into a room with no food or water, you are going to get really thirsty first, but If I also take out all your air... then you will forget about hunger and thirst... and all you will desperately care about is breathing. That's how humans think. Do you understand what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:41 PM
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This is you projecting your own personal sense of entitlement. That isn't really what's happening here and you should be aware of it. Men have been divded into groups, and accepted group and an outcast group. Techincally our job as accepted males should be to protect the group. Some do this strongly, some do it moderately, and some like me feel it's a disgusting system that's just using us. What you have done is forced an ever growing group of men who should be part of the accepted group, and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:37 PM
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but most women have children with the person they're married to, not the people they had a hook up in college with. Humans have masked fertile periods for a reason, and that's to make paternity uknown. If the woman had to take on a low quality mate for some reason, as many of the children born as she could manager would not be his. If you're married to her and she's having children with you, how are you not The Winner? IF they are yours. How are you going to tell 100 years ago? Sniff test?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:29 PM
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So only the ones you approve of? I mean let's just be honest. Insecurity and lack of confidence are two things that will destroy the value of a man in the eyes of everyone around him faster than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:13 PM
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I think they average woman is scared of men because many men seem to hate women. I've never looked at a man I don't know and felt hate but I have felt fear from a stranger if I'm at a disadvantage physically. It's fine tuned in everyone to protect themselves by awareness of safety. If I'm consistently the smallest person bc I'm tiny even for women and men are typically naturally much larger and stronger then until I know I'm with one who is not gonna use that to his own advantage against me I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:10 PM
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No, dualistic mating strategy is the correct term. Long term mate for resources, short term mate for better genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:35 AM
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You nailed it. This is exactly what is going on. It’s a self preservation instinct. My feeling is that it doesn’t matter unless you are in a situation like a marriage where she can really take assets from you. So just avoid that and enjoy things as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:34 AM
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Bro dualistic mating strategy. It’s so hardcore proven at this point even the social scientists believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:28 AM
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Because men aren’t allowed to be insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:26 AM
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Bad behavior? Like you think these guys are out robbing convenience stores?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:25 AM
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No, money isn’t the answer. Don’t wait
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:21 AM
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Ok, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:17 AM
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Ok, it IS an insult to call a man insecure, because men aren’t allowed to lack confidence. Also if you don’t have much experience with women then you don’t bloody know what they want from you, so none of the great things about you matter. Do you follow? The last piece of this is regarding how true this statement may be. We live in a place where the average woman hates men. I think if you don’t at least go into a relationship acknowledging this fact and looking for signs that show this is a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:16 AM
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I suspect it's actually two pieces. One is dating way out of your league as a woman... you have to do that stuff to keep the man around. The second part is being overly controlling. The guy probably would have done the dishes the next day, but she wants them done now and doesn't want to wait until he has time. It's also a feminist hobbyhorse. Pay attention to how in the GSA survey they removed all mentions of yard work or any kind of handyman activity so they can bias it to look like women do al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:46 AM
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it's pretty weird to enjoy testing out arguments and ideas (I say that as somebody who loves doing it), I think the majority of people like this are either ADHD or autistic I will quickly explain my reasoning here. We live in these media bubbles where only our preconcieved notions and matching experiences get reflected back at us and it detaches everyone from reality. What I'm really doing is testing my reality and attempting to restore sanity. I don't really even believe in justice, although I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:42 AM
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We are UMC. Nobody else has time for this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:14 AM
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It's probably because you have never encountered the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:13 AM
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Well you're at least right on this. I'd wager almost everybody in the sub is either autistic and/or ADHD and/or very abnormally bad with women and/or obsessed with culture war stuff as an outlet for their frustrations with their own lives. Or they like to test out new arguments and ideas. More than anything this place gets me thinking about other people's perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:12 AM
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High skill vs Lows skill work is the basic answer, because they don't have the same value. But the real issue is why do you need a woman to help take care of your child anyway? I know a couple single dads and the children always resent new women coming in. I know my daughter is going to be the same way. When some strange lady starts taking over all the things kids used to do with their father... everyone gets upset. Also, women wont know how to perform these tasks with the children properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:34 AM
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Why would you let a woman do your laundry? I had a GF mess up a $200 pair of jeans one time. This is NOT why you need a woman. Just divide up chores and make sure she cleans after herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:23 AM
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Predictability of opinion is where you just absolutely shine!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:04 AM
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My whole point is that women refusing to believe men can/are interested in older women only perpetuates the idea that a woman's worth, romantically and in general, is tied to her youth and beauty. As women, that's not something we should be doing. Because your value in the eyes of most men IS tied directly into your youth and beauty. So these women are not lying to you. Do you consider yourself pretty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:39 PM
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I'm at the age where some men would say I "hit the wall." I've been with my husband for 12 years. Ok, if you have been together 12 years and have kids together you have something like a 60% chance of being together still at the 30 year mark. Let me tell you a secret. When you are dealing with men, beauty and sexiness are two different things. Your husband is going to see you as beautiful WAY longer than any other guy... like way, way longer. In addition, a large part of his attraction is going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:25 PM
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I assume you are young? Nobody is going to assume your marriage will last forever. Maybe it’s advice for the future. Can you describe the situation in detail? Listen female competition is crazy and ruthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:03 PM
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I’m… I don’t think this is very well understood by most people. So there is a wall for both men and women, but it’s more significant for women because it generally coincides with their fertility window. So the thing is that as we age our bodies change and our metabolism changes. So men mature slower and have thicker skin, so all things equal they will age slower until mid 50s. However it used to balance out because women use sunscreen and face creams, while men just wreck themselves in the sun. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:46 PM
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I’m not an expert, but that was my experience back in 2006. I certainly wasn’t trying to date Irish women at the time because I had my xWife with me at the time. I spend a lot of time in Asia today, and the tourist women do tend to be big. The expat joke is that if you see a big chubby woman with a tall muscular man… they are Australians. Skinny effeminate looking men with skinny effeminate looking women … French. Handsome guys with much less attractive women UK. No stereotypes for Irish that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:40 PM
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Just Dublin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:15 PM
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That’s not how or why this phenomenon works
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:58 PM
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When I was there and granted I’m just a tourist… I noticed a lot of overweight women and bad attitudes. I just wrote it off to bad luck, but a lot of men say this stuff too. Still, better than Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:48 PM
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I think the best you are going to get is one that smells like a foot. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:53 PM
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LOL… all I just read is that you hit your career goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:34 PM
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Yeah, you weren’t involved. First of all, you needed a sponsor to get in. Then you needed to attend multiple meetups before you were allowed to even speak. Online stuff was only part of the Red Pill back then. We worked together and did all kinds of crazy stuff. You just seem like one of those faded glory frat boys who thought GHB made women like you. I spent enough time in Frat parties to know the type.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:31 PM
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Sure. I was just curious so I googled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:12 PM
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LOL… you clearly weren’t involved. The Reddit TRP was mostly LARPing from day 1. That’s not where the Red Pill was centered around. I mean you keep bringing in the Manosphere losers and ignoring the PUA guys who were actually driving the bus back then. You were probably part of those fools.. although I don’t recognize Lift and Jerk… did you use another name?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:02 PM
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Yeah, that isn’t common. I’ve met a few like that and having abuse in your past makes this much more likely in my experience. Fact is that most men feel loved through sex. So it’s very important. Also you need to recognize most women have different standards for short term partners vs long term partners. Short term partners are chosen much more based on sexual excitement and enjoyment, while long term partners are much more about stability and paying for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:54 PM
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No, you can always tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:44 PM
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I was there! Not everyone was hitting those kinds of numbers, because a lot of guys either couldn’t or found it unappealing quickly. The migration towards relationships was always high.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:43 PM
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What the fuck is this? Rollo is a dipshit and was just a hanger on. He was the most mocked figure among Red Pill/PUA guys for over a decade. Yes we really did have a hey day at one point. Now everyone seems married and the younger guys just want to piss and moan. I mean what were you doing in the early 2010s?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:40 PM
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I googled it. The guys name is Nas and he is a musician. The guy pays or paid $51,000 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:29 PM
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Question. How do you feel about one and done encounters? What motivated you to engage in them and what kind of men were your type? My suspicion is that you are one of those few high sex drive, high novelty seeking women, and that’s why you can’t understand most guys on this topic. Because if that’s the case then you tend to bring a very similar desire to all encounters and your husband probably feels like Mr Lucky all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:25 PM
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Oh, this is a question for me! So having been both types of guy over time… I can explain this easily. The answer is based in how she treats you. If she makes you feel highly attractive, wanted, and like you are the best lover she’s ever had… no man is going to care what her past is like. However, that’s so rare. Usually what happens is that she makes you feel like sex isn’t that important to her once in the relationship , she wants to make you wait for it initially, doesn’t initiate often…. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:19 PM
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LOL... I looked it up and the owner of TGI Fridays started the place to attract single women so he could get casual sex from them. Nothing says liberation like a good old fashioned hump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:54 PM
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Dude you’re not making the points you think you are. It’s great that you’ve come from such an affluent family, but the majority of people do not share your familial luck. Check your privilege and maybe you’ll understand that social mobility piece you claim to get, but clearly don’t. It really depends on where you are from and what went on in your family. I know my grandparents because they essentially raised me. I don't come from a wealthy background, or at least the family hasnt been wealthy in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:56 PM
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No, a young woman's choice was marriage or abstinence. Prostitutes were typically women who had lost parents and community, or suffered some other kind of misfortune. In fact, through a good chunk of the middle ages the catholic church controlled most of the prostitution, and the great proportion of them were war orphans or debt slaves. Any woman who could convince her family to allow her to remain unmarried could become a nun, or work low prestige jobs as an unattached woman. Most families did …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:56 PM
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Do you think it's a desireable role to play today? Same everything still applies except maybe you can delude yourself into thinking people don't look down on you. They didn't have to get married and you don't have to get married. Same thing. Maybe you can have a higher paying job, but you will still be a spinster at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:47 PM
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How hard have you been brainwashed? No, there have ALWAYS been at least 1 in 10 women unmarried in western society... this goes all the way back to the middle ages. The very term Spinster comes from women who chose not to marry in the 1300s. They took on lower status jobs like spinning yarn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:33 PM
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The ancient world had priestess roles, the middle ages had nunneries, there have always been social institutions for women who don't want to get married. Even up to the 1900s it was extremely common for spinsters to hold positions as house housekeepers. Unmarried women have always been part of society. The reason women married was typically if they wanted children and wanted higher social status. Same exact reasons women marry today. No change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:31 PM
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He’s saying that that all women are inherently gold diggers in that they must get something out of the relationship or they won’t engage. I think… that in older contexts protection and status within the group are actually sufficient reasons. Of course today we temporarily outsource those things to the government. I think that’s the main reason we are having problems getting along, is because most women are essentially married to the government, and since they control the government through votin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:48 AM
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Think about it like this… women are obsessed with status, but how can you tell a man has status? Well, if a man acts like he has status then women will react to him like he has status. Alternatively even men who have status but act shy and anxious, women will treat these guys like low status men. This is why musicians, and celebrities are so attractive, they have easily felt status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:39 AM
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Women never had to marry out of necessity. At minimum 10% to 20% through out history did not marry. Hypergamy is primarily a status based drive for mating, and if you look at apes it is a primary driving factor in violence. Large groups of rejected males form up and then roam around looking for opportunities to drive off other males and take their place… this process is inherently violent. So hypergamy could be potentially seen as a positive force for male improvement in say the context of Europ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:32 AM
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Much respect to you bro! What you need to understand is that the Red Pill is at its very core a social darwinist philosophy. Which is why it makes the men who just can't get anything from women go insane. They innately understand what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:02 AM
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Ok... so I've kind of had an experience similar to you, but with some things different. For one thing, my parents didnt' give a fuck about what I did or where I went as a kid. Spent most of my non-school time in daycare as a kid. So, kind of the opposite of helicopter parents. When I registered for classes, I often took the wrong ones, wasted a lot of time and money. I never learned to cook anything that wasn't hamburger helper or microwaved. Then I got married at 20 to someone MUCH more mature …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:51 PM
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That’s insane! How do you become an adult in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:34 PM
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The third point is 90% of the issue in the US. The moms here are fucking off their rocker and they also have zero concept of discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:33 PM
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Chinese women have practical requirements that are designed for family survival. Western women want disposable income so they can blow it on themselves. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:39 AM
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And the idea that I could be at such a high rank simply from being quite pretty, slender, funny, sweet, and clever baffled and enraged them because it suggested both the unfairness (me being born better looking) and the areas of their own flaws (not as sweet, funny, and clever). Thanks for posting your thoughts on this. I feel like it really helps me put my thoughts into perspective. I'm a very successful person and one of the things that I feel like really helped me get to that point were the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:42 PM
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no one has died directly from lack of sex. With all due respect, that is very incorrect. Suicide is extremely high for men who face this kind of deep rejection. It's also deeply psychologically destructive and even healing from it takes years or decades. As someone who doesn't have to every face this, I don't think you are qualified to talk about it. You simply don't understand and are perhaps incapbable of empathy on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:17 PM
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I had this period of my life when I worked international sales and I would go stay in a country for 1-3 months to build up and train a sales team. While I was there I would go on dates and meet people, build friend networks stuff like that. When I was dating one of the things that hit me in a profound way was that the things I did that worked very well at attracting American women, absolutely repulsed women from non-english speaking countries. The exception was scandanavian women... those ladies…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:06 PM
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Oh yeah... it's all the fault of traditional gender roles.... can't possibly be female ego's involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:21 PM
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Those are considered to be the same thing today... no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:19 PM
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Shockingly 7.81% of the millenial female participants in the study were Middle School Teachers. I've just gotten to the point where if I meet a woman who is a public school teacher, you just know she is a child molesting freak. It's just a really safe assumption to make at this point. Actually there is some data to suggest that the state of California has so many teachers that are sex predators with multiple victims, they the single state has created more victims in a generation than the Catholi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:18 PM
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Think about it again for a moment. Women are actively selecting FOR the men with money, and selecting AGAINST the men without. Therefore marriages are typically going to contain on average men who make signifigantly more than men who don't get married ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:08 PM
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This is incorrect framing. Traits are divided into Alpha and Beta traits. We all contain a mixture of these. Red Pill/PUA will often talk about killing off their inner Beta. This means pushing down your instincts to do things like people please, be a doormat, give in to social anxiety, lack of confidence... this stuff. Nobody is full Alpha or full Beta, we are all a mix of both. Also... Chad was a term used to describe high school athlete type guys. The jock assholes that most of us despised in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:05 PM
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It's because women chase the guys that make money... and eventually catch them. The men that don't make money women don't bother with. It's not that married men are destined to make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:48 PM
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In the history of the world this is an entirely new thing. Men are supposed to form bands of brothers and go forth and make the world bend to their wills. The fact is that because wherever men congregate eventually become centers of innovation and power... women stomp their feet and push their way in. We have no space to bond and attack problems together without women coming in and destroying the dynamic. Have you ever wondered why all of the old cultures and systems had lots of men only spaces?…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:47 PM
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Yeah, I'm sorry you had to experience that. I hope it made you stronger rather than just being something you had to heal from. Honestly, as a boy experiencing bullying is caused primarily by your weakness or by being an outsider. I don't really understand how girls think sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:36 PM
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Seriously YES. You can add shitty tattoos to that list. Nothing sexier than looking like the stall door of a truck stop shitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:34 PM
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Bro, they can't tell. They really can't tell what we like and what we don't like. They honestly think that masculine looking women are hot. They literally think bitches, so skinny they are on the verge of death are the hottest thing ever, while we think damn that girl needs to eat a burger. Men's preference for thinness is in a range between 15% and 25% bodyfat, women literally will say 5% bodyfat is hotter than 12%... which is insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:11 PM
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I totally understand. I kind of didn't until my daughter turned 6 and the girls around her started chasing boys... but now it just is impossible to not see. My daughter is very good looking. As a baby she did a few months of baby modeling before her mom found it kind of exploitative and pulled it. I always expected her to grow out of looking good, but it hasn't happened yet... maybe puberty. She is a highly ranked figure skater for her age and has this personality that is so outgoing and friendl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:07 PM
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Eulen!!! I think the study you are looking for is the one that created the terms Girl Pretty and Boy Pretty... as in the men and women didn't agree on which female faces were the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:22 PM
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There is a remarkable amount of overlap on some things, but you are right that they tend to be more towards personality traits than looks. I also think that the wide variety of things men are attracted to tends to hide some big surprises. Like, they guys who seem to really want conventionally attractive women, if you listen to them talk they really seem motivated by other men approving of their mate selection. I dont' really understand that, but there is something behind that which could be a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:17 PM
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No, what he is describing is a very real thing. Women tend to intenesly overrate one another. Part of it is also the fact that women use so many filters and photoshop, makeup and surgery, hair extensions, hair dye, fake lashes, fake tits, botox... now even fake asses which are gross as hell to me... I mean just so much stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:12 PM
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To be fair most people pair up fairly close to their own attractiveness level. If your GF's are matching up with guys you don't think are much to look at... then your GF's probably aren't that hot either, which is totally cool. You are probably just going to have to adjust to being the hottest woman in the group. Once you realize that, maybe lots of social interactions that didn't make sense will click into place? But the thing is that in my experience here... the only real standard that women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:04 PM
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I've got a daughter and I'm not going to send her off to play alone at some guys house, BUT I will take some time out in the evening and escort her over to play with another little girl. I'm not going to lie though... I do not trust lesbians around my kid under any circumstances. I have a zero tolerance policy on that. But look, if moms don't trust me up front... I understand that. It's OK. I don't mind taking background checks and stuff. Although I'm not going to hand out personal information t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:50 PM
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Some do, most don’t. You don’t find many that understand themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:30 AM
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Honestly you would have to post a picture. Truth is that it’s much more likely to be a soy boy demeanor that is making them not want to be near you. I had soft parents, but my grandparents were hard as hell people. For those of you going on two or three generations of soft… I think it might be impossible to know what masculinity looks like. That seems to be the biggest issue with Gen Z. Worst part is that the girls don’t realize why all the weak ass clowns around them make them feel unattracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:53 AM
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Do you know how addictive it is to step out of a culture that hates men in general and is racist as fuck against you and then go to a place where the racism is low key and people treat men well? I always just enjoyed getting away from the toxicity if LA culture, but I was just traveling for work, not dating. They call them social skills for a reason, they are skills that can be improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:58 PM
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It’a complicated. But I can say from experience that the women who date foreigners have very deep and abiding reasons. Most of the time, the really hot local guys don’t like how these women look. So they are the fat ugly white girls of their culture. Second, some of these places it’s damn hard to be a woman… and they don’t want to be a slave to some crazy mother in law. The money… a working class guy is really what they want. However the Thai in particular are two faced as hell… and most passpor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:40 PM
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It’s one of the most expensive places in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:27 PM
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LOL… the level of delusion is crazy. These are same women flying to Jamaica to rent a dred for a week or two. Everyone sees through your bullshit. It’s very simple. Women from other countries are taking your betas away. No more bailouts at age 38. My suggestion is learn how to go down on another woman, and when she slaps you around learn to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:27 PM
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OP is in Canada. He isn’t traveling. Passport bros got money, for the most part. Red Pill started this years ago and we used to party overseas in groups. Columbia was always the top spot. But if you listen to men who date international, Chilean women do not rank high. They tend to be the worst of both. This guy has to be kind of ignorant to think all foreign women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:12 PM
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You can’t. It’s Feminist beta male shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:07 PM
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I think a lot of these guys don’t realize the number of red pill men who are wealthy now. These broke losers don’t want a wife, they want a bailout.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:06 PM
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Then why did she bother to type a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:38 PM
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I think she is more relaying relationship expectations that he needs to not only initiate more, but also make the decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:36 PM
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This kind of goes to one of my biggest relationship issues with American women. They keep demanding equal relationships with me, but then expect me to lead. Now, that's fine but I'm not going be a leader of anyone unless they actually give me the authority to lead them. It's impossible to dance with someone who both demands that you lead, and also refuses to follow. Believing this type of a relationship can work creates the dumbest expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:34 PM
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Lol the amount of hamster happening right there.Like it or not it's the same. It's about people unable to determine their smv leading them to repeated failures being outcompeted. Most men and women adapt and some are unable to do so and often prefer to victimise themselves instead RIght now almost 1 in 3 women are not able to adapt. That number isn't likely to go down much in the next 10 years. Lots of childless women who couldn't have a family because men under some specified height aren't good…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:06 AM
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Do you know how respect must be given before being recieved? Human decency is the same way. I got really tired of giving and not recieving it, so I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:00 AM
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Red Pill is pickup. Everything Red Pill is straight up designed to teach you how to get women interested in you. They even did research on our techniques and figured out how they work and why. Like Negging for example... I can use this because it isn't used in this form anymore. We found that time and time again, if you mixed some insults into your compliments that women would be much more likely say Yes, when you ask them on a date. It's insane how well this works. Turns out that the small self…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:54 AM
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If you could turn female attraction into a basic math equation, then this forum would be abandoned overnight. The fact is that it took most Red Pill guys 4 or 5 years of serious trial and error to figure out how it works. The dismay you see from the black pillers is simply them realizing that women are just as concerned about looks as they are but WAY WAY pickier. Like put them in a room with 100 men and they basically all choose the same guys picky. But just like you said... that isn't actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:47 AM
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Male attraction often lacks a mechanism to regulate for thier own looks. Which is delusional, but not a huge problem because most will eventually figure out where they land and seek similar mates. Women on the other hand, their attraction scales. If you have 10 men in the room the bar will be lower than if there are 100 men. That's a big problem in the age of social media. Additionally they are regulated by self esteem unlike boys who when it's low simply don't try. So the higher her self esteem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:40 AM
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Thank you for letting me know!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:33 AM
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Wow did you pick the wrong example. Women in Tokyo dress like sexy infants, including ruffled undergarments and sucking on pacifiers and bottles. Same infantile clothing in black leather with fishnets and minuscule skirts. Thigh high boots and micro shorts. Not sure how you visited Tokyo and never saw street fashion… it’s famous worldwide. What? No, this must be a more recent thing, because I didn't run into any women with baby bottles or pacifiers. Still... none of that sounds sexy. I think I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:32 AM
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Which could result in a fight. You see women attacked on the subway now and everyone just looks away. I've never had a woman speak up for me in a similar situation, because they know the inherent risks.... and I used to fight a lot in my youth. Truth is that it's in my nature to protect, but the good news for me is that I get to draw that circle as close to me as I want. Besides it's obscene to join a movement that openly hates men, that tries to harm them... and then turn around and ask them fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:02 AM
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The vast majority of men like average looking women. Regarding the age issue it's more difficult. If a guy wants children younger women will always be more attractive. It's just a fertility thing. You shouldn't worry about being average, it's actually a great blessing for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:37 AM
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What about the women? Are they allowed to make decisions about their own lives, their own destinies? Are women allowed to do as they please and seek their own happiness? We are talking about showing your tits in public and stuff like that. Nobody here thinks they should dress in Muslim garb and walk around covered in bed sheets. I get that all the young girls are compelled to show off their bodies to get attention. It's what tells them their status, and whether they developed correctly. This ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:32 AM
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I just want to see women take on the negative part of men's gender role. If you can't ask a man on a date, then you should't be working anywhere, ever. Stop obsessing over CEO positions, I want to see them do the dirty hard jobs. Go catch crabs in the Bering strait, be garbage collector, or a bricklayer. Take job in pest control, and get the hell out of social work/education. There are just so many things like this. Lots of women want to do what men did in the past, but they walk away when it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:21 AM
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You can't go back to the past. It's a dumb to even try, thier situation was radically different. However, how can we profess to want equality and then act unequally. I don't think the traditionalists really want tradition. They just go back to the first time period that they percieve as not all fucked up... and it's mostly because they don't know anyone who lived through it. They just want gender roles that work. They don't want to have to get into a relationship and then have to battle this cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:46 AM
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It affects the married men a lot less... unless their marriage lacks affection. When it's good a guy doesn't care what other women do. What your little fake scenario misses, is that it hits the single guys, the younger guys twice as hard. They see someone like that and they think they can date someone like that, and they won't settle. Now, they will date whoever they can, but they won't commit, because in the back of thier minds maybe they can do better. Of course if they walk down the aisle wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:56 AM
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You are correct of course. We talked about this a lot back in the day. There is essentially a social contract where we need to be willing to fight and die if needed to protect, but in return there has to be something, maybe status, maybe power, behavior requirements…. I don’t know but it has to be something. Today it’s nothing, and that just isn’t going to work for anyone… nobody is going to take that deal. So go buy a gun or something and deal with the creeps yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:31 PM
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I'm curious, what kind of standards you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:08 PM
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Check out the incel stats some day. The number one predictor of being an incel is having a mom that's a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:45 PM
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Did you see the debate? Everything around us is a shitshow! Dating and relationships are just another example of how abandoning norms and traditions at the exact same time as insane technological change occurs is just batshit. The big difference here is that the women on the sub have recieved every bit of social support and encouragement that society can possibly offer, while the men have grown up attacked, demonized, and oppressed. So, when these kids fail and react with anger, I don't feel you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:35 PM
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I will say this. When you get laid at home, you don’t even care to look and even when you do it’s more like just how laughable this juvenile bid for attention is. That said… most guys aren’t getting much… especially the poor married guys. So yeah it drives up expectations on the woman you are with and drives down satisfaction. That’s a plain fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:04 PM
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Look, I really don’t care what thirsty men do. If they harass a woman I love they are gonna get waffle stomped. The rest should shut up and just take care of themselves. Stop bitching to men who don’t do this, and I promise the men who do, don’t give a crap about your indignation. But thirst isn’t just about harassment. These ladies project sexual availability and promiscuity. The guys go home and look at what they are partnered with and go “where is that sexiness here?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:48 PM
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What is wrong with you? Either no man is bad or all are bad? It’s not a binary choice. There are small numbers of bad men, and you can either choose to openly attract them or not. Either way they aren’t going away. So, do what you want, just don’t drag me into it. I will risk my life for the women in my life that I love. The rest of you… I’m just going to walk right past… save yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:42 PM
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If the guy is claiming it created an irresistible urge to do something improper… I mean sure. But overly sexualized clothes definitely has a negative impact on men. I suppose if you bought some $20,000 nasty butt implants and want to show them off… whatever, but this sad bid for attention ultimately hurts other women… and drives male thirst through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:28 PM
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It makes men dominant not dirty. Why don't you know this? Who wants a woman that gives her body in submission to everyone else? You are probably some OCD Howard Hughes style germophobe, which is why you can't get off this stupid non functional analogy. When a guy uses language of disgust... it's not because the woman is dirty, most of them will still sleep with her. It's the above piece you seem to miss. This is about competition between men as much as it's about how she throws her ass around,.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:38 AM
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THIS is it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:28 AM
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Oh, DM him for his number! Otherwise he's going to wind up chasing the same 200 or so semi-pro Filipinas all the other sex tourists chase. I'm sure you could change his naughty ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:21 AM
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Haha... clearly he wasn't having issues finding interested women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:15 AM
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For what an average 4 years at a time? Let's get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:10 AM
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No, my aunts went crazy because my grandfather made the mistake of pulling back as they got older. It was most pronounced for them at puberty. They didn’t understand and felt he didn’t love them as much anymore. So keep up the physical contact, hugs and other kinds of touch. To keep them from being spoiled…. Tell them No and make sure they know what behavior is inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:10 AM
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She actually has very good features. 6 or 7 months of Ozempic and she would have a lot going on. But my buddy Jumbo would swoop her as is! He’s 6’4” and really handsome. Bit of a party boy but he’s been tamed before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:05 AM
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You understand men as much as incels understand women. This isn’t something that has an analogy, it just IS and you should accept it, in the same way men have to just accept ridiculous standards like height or hand size, or whatever it is that floats women’s boats. Frankly the sheer hypocrisy of holding men accountable for things they can’t change at all, while constantly bitching and complaining that men hold women accountable for their actions is just… It’s just gross. Like vomit inducing gros…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:00 AM
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Yeah a handful. Now let’s all chant USA, USA, USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:49 PM
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Actually… that was most likely all in the plan. This guy has irresistible bad boy written all over his story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:46 PM
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I’m probably not going to partner up like this, but if I did the answer is a hard NO. When a man marries a woman, what he wants is to be loved and accepted. A hall pass isn’t going to change that… even it’s with some celebrity. It’s not about validation or ego, so those things can’t fix or change it. You already have a woman that you love and want to commit to… but she doesn’t really love you the same way. She likes your safety and comfort… maybe even that you are presentable to her family and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:35 PM
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I’m not sure what the disconnect is… these guys are actually asking women to stop selecting men based on self defeating criteria. Which in my opinion is like asking a dog to learn to read. A lot of guys are just tired of having to pretend to be assholes in order to get a girlfriend. Either you can’t sustain it and the relationship fails, or it actually becomes part of you and then you can’t stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:40 PM
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That's straight up why when these ladies post that teen boys are better lovers or some weirdness like that... all I can do is laugh and tell them to go try one. But I think deep down most of these women know. The key here is that they despise male insecurity and while they constantly ask thier boyfriends to lie to them about how fat those jeans look, they have zero interest in doing anything of the sort in return. Partly I think it's an ideological or worldview issue. Even if you told them... th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:00 AM
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Here is the thing, most guys deal with this by detaching. I don't give a crap how amazing a man thinks he is... and I know a few that believe they are the best ever, if 100 other men were in there first... he's going to struggle with that. Here is the thing though, she has the ability to make him feel like he's the best lover she's ever had. It doesn't even take much effort to achieve, do that and no guy cares about your past. Sex workers use this sometimes and it makes clients fall in love. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:24 AM
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Women who have lots of experience could make it an enormous advantage. Not many do, because they are so self absorbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:19 AM
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It's a mental health thing, and it's the same for men and women. The only serious difference seems to be promiscuous women have low relationship satisfaction when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:59 AM
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Well you just have to look at it from another person's perspective. Other men always subtract from a woman's core value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:53 AM
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Yet her ultimate value is stuck in that spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:22 AM
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Depends on a couple factors, but ultimately... Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:39 AM
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Totally agree, although it does depend on who you are with... and if he is good, then how often you want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:22 AM
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i mean if hes chad aren't women throwing themselves at him No, only fools think that stuff. I mean online dating... these guys do get a lot of attention, but it's not all that. yes i'm not retarded LOL.. Not how I would have said that, but cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:16 AM
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Technically it's men in the US by a couple percentage points. However, when you break it down by ethnicity, african american men really push the numbers up for men in general, and white women cheat at much higher rates than women from other ethnic groups. Some of this depends on the survey, but these two trends are fairly steady. Also... men who are financially dependant on their wife cheat at an insane rate... it's like 300% of the average. The craziest stat I've ever seen on this topic is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:05 AM
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I will see if I can find it. There was also a study on women achieving orgasm more frequently and easier with chubby men. Not stuff you would expect. I’d actually be willing to bet they rates sex as worse despite better orgasms… but that’s just a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:48 PM
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The issue in quantifying this is that there is a gap between what men think is attractive in themselves and what women do. So you can have very good looking men who feel ugly and are just happy with their relationship, or they can feel like they settled. The difference is really in that mental story the man tells himself about who he is. Are you familiar with the idea of self image?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:05 PM
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Well, what stage of life are you in? College, post college, early career? I feel the biggest issue most women face early on is understanding their own attraction mechanisms. Figuring that out will save you loads of time and keep you out of trouble for the most part. The main problem younger women run into is differentiating between traits like confidence and arrogance. A lot of very nasty men will seem attractive. Of course some really have to learn the hard way. It’s a touch easier for men beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:12 PM
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They did a study on this sometime around the early 2000s and if I remember correctly it was about 30% of men who pay that expect sex. Money spent did not factor in much. So literally a coffee date had a similar percentage expecting sex as a highly expensive meal. So, the takeaway is that it’s not the money itself. The number one Indicator of sexual expectations… and this applied to both men who pay and men who split the bill was number of past sexual partners. So fundamentally that makes sense t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:56 AM
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If you are between 18 and 50… basically most men are going to make assumptions about how you date based on how all the other women date. It has as much to do with TikTok as it does with actual dating experience. Plus the guys like me who have been been playing the field for a long time we are much more patient. Trust me on this, I’m giving you good advice here. The best way to deal is to put up a strong front of being virtuous. Never go anywhere alone with him. Keep an eye on how frequently and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:05 AM
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That wasn’t a personal attack. I’m sorry you feel that way. Did you actually read what you cut and pasted? It’s ludicrous stuff. Neither of these things are ever likely to be true. How this really works is that guys who pay feel more comfortable getting more aggressive with you. Guys who don’t aren’t waiting months and months to get intimate. The guys who pay do have a big chunk of very traditional men, but they won’t be interested if you aren’t also very traditional. Wait… I you wrote that then…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:34 AM
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Yeah this is pretty solid. This question would come up with some of the older players back in the day. The younger women are a lot more cool with hookups than with relationships when the guy is that much older in the west… even then a lot won’t go for it. The key thing here is relationships. You gotta tell the guys just don’t do it. Unless you plan to move to Dubai or some place like that. These girls are not trustworthy long term with age gaps that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:14 AM
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The problem you are facing is that whether you play games or not, all the other women are... how in the world are you going to try and convince anyone you are different? I mean it's possible, but you really gotta thread the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:42 AM
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Haha… that is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Have you ever been on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:11 AM
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Well, you took away his maid service, of course he was upset. Doesn’t mean he actually loved you or cared about the marriage. Let me explain one thing. Physical looks are one thing, but also you can’t ignore bad boy traits. This guy had some for sure, just not enough to keep you longer. There is a reason you skipped all the nice guys for this jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:04 AM
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Most of the time they actually tell you, other times it’s pretty easy to guess. Women really aren’t that good at hiding shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:03 PM
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I don’t follow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:58 PM
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It’s just hookup culture. I think men would happily pay to shoot their shot if they didn’t know for fact other guys don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:58 PM
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Well according to the study… that’s your issue. Stop dating up in looks, problem solved. If you dont like it, then learn to like dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:52 PM
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Hookup culture doesn’t end when you decide. You can’t play these games and expect men to not play back. It’s just ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:50 PM
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They did a study on how much people value the relationship and happiness. They couldn’t quantify looks, but the standout result was that men 20-80 pounds overweight married to ideal weight women did equal household chores, put significantly more effort into sex… everything. So yeah… pretty sure you are totally wrong. It doesn’t even pass the common sense test. If your wife says she wants you to clean more… the only time you refuse is when you just don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:45 PM
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What he is saying is correct. When the intimacy drained out of my marriage everyone told me to do more chores, take on the bill paying, be more responsible. Eventually I was doing everything. The problem just got worse. When we got divorced she straight up blamed me for taking all of her responsibilities away. In particular she was upset I did the finances… which was just stupid. She spent $2000 a month just on clothes and another $1000 on spa treatments. I owned almost nothing after 7 years. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:10 PM
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No, just the definition you have in your head. I was there at the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:58 PM
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Just imagine my best impersonation of an evil villians laugh as a response to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:11 PM
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Ok, more than any other idea on the topic... I like this comment. It reminds me of a dear friend. I had male friend from Russia, a big tough guy. One time we were out with another guy and he made some comment about how this lady wasn't pretty. My Russian friend stopped him right there putting a hand on his chest, and said "No, All women are beautiful"... in this very thick heavy Russian accent. The idea stuck with me over the years and I really like it. I think we should all try to practice this…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:39 AM
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I feel like I'm pretty visual and this just never happens to me. Maybe it did when I was a teen, but I don't think so. It's probably something for people with low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:34 AM
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Black Pillers maitain frame almost as well as feminists. It's a sociopathic idiocy that allows this. However, just like feminists... good sex will blow up their whole world view. So, really only RP guys have cultivated this talent. It seems our frame can withstand some good lovemaking. If you think I'm wrong... feel free to pick one and try it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:30 AM
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100% lived up to your flair! Thank you for bringing up ancient philosophy and putting some really good thought into it. Hopefully some folks got educated a bit... or at least interested in looking into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:27 AM
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Marcus Aurelius's wife had a thing for this gladiator... so Marcus had the man killed and made her bath in his blood. That sounds pretty RP to me. I do agree with you on the overall take regarding Stoicism though. Red pill loves the stoics without understanding them. Still stoics could not survive long in our current culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:25 AM
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What are you talking about? It's going to be someone.... RP is just about making sure you are the guy and not someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:17 AM
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Without the millions and millions of cheating wives the RP would never exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:06 AM
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Now, that isn't true. If they were ever so silly as to tell the truth, I could really sue them for a good chunk of money and they would owe me a lot. But, I generally live my life like nobody is going to give me anything without a fight, and as a result I've done exceptionally well for myself. While I dislike injustice, I'm grateful for all I have, and that keeps me from being a bitter loser like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:02 AM
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And you are a homophobe too. Priceless!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:55 AM
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All I can say is that in my lifetime, it hasn't ever moved in a better direction. I really thought 2008 was going to turn a corner, but that was just idealistic silliness. It feels like technology is driving a chunk of this, but also social and cultural changes in the elite folks. I think that's why eventually most Red Pill guys got thier finances together and went international. A lot of us just have this feeling that the party is going to end in the not too distant future. The consensus is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:21 PM
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It's interesting that you mention politics. Did you know that originally the black pill was a term Red Pill guys used to describe other Red Pill men who came to believe all major problems men face are fundamentally political problems and cannot be fixed? The folks we use that term for today we're called PUA Haters or Game Deniers. This was 2014 era. I actually worked for a popular American political party on the west coast for around a decade. I've seen the process from the inside and spent time…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:49 PM
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That is a fair argument that Agreeableness as a trait is the parent. It’s still labeled a feminine trait. But you submit every single day. Every day that you follow a rule set by a government in the community where you live. What happens when you stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:56 AM
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Then what’s the difference between them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:39 AM
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Agreeable - enjoyable and pleasurable; pleasant submissive - ready to conform to the authority or will of others Agreeableness - Agreeableness is a personality trait referring to individuals that are perceived as kind, sympathetic, cooperative, warm, honest, and considerate When I looked these definitions up, I think you are totally correct. However, I would argue that Agreeableness is a trait that falls under the umbrella of submissiveness. Agreeable people generally do not wind up in leadershi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:26 AM
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I think that is wrong. Submission is required for cooperation. Teams always defeat individuals. Submissiveness is one of the most important human traits. I read this story from history about a battle where highly assertive and independent European knights went up against a Mongolian army of highly submissive and dependent men half the size. The Mongols performed a fake retreat. The Europeans charged and could not control their soldiers. The Mongols then turned and in a complicated maneuver hit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:50 AM
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What is the difference between you and them? You must be willing to give trust to get trust, give love to get love, care for him so he will care for you. Perhaps your issue is that you cannot get because you are unwilling to give? I feel bad for you, I really do. Life is always harder for broken people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:24 PM
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(I realize you are describing their thought process) *because sex is for two people and using another human being for singular sexual gratification is grotesque and monstrous. Any woman who want's can almost 100% guarantee this doesn't happen to them. However, they actively allow popular men to do it, and then get really angry when average guys do it. So, nobody is going to take this seriously as long as that double standard exists. And it absolutely does exist. They mean a paycheck. They aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:19 PM
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Women who earn also want fiscally responsible men. Whether they want Uber masculine, intuitive masculinity, etc, depends on compatibility, attraction, and love. However, no one wants to find themselves homeless, electricity, water, phone, and other utilities off because your spouse pissed the funds off a cliff. No one. In my experience most American women who earn are terrible with money. European women are a completely different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:17 PM
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Tell me the truth. Is it really that hard for certain men to understand how degrading and demeaning the act of sex is for a woman whose body is used as a cum dumpster? A live sex toy? A hole with friction? The black pill/Incel is going to absolutely agree with this position, and turn around and ask why a woman would sign up for this. Because you know in their minds, and frankly what a lot of guys see and experience is lots of women happily signing up for this kind of treatment time and time agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:43 PM
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People get roughly what they deserve. I think you were supposed to at least deny this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:15 PM
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Watching K-Drama... I think you would be shocked to find how many men secretly love those shows. Oh, but definitely not me! You know... other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:10 PM
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Bro, I'm just explaining why women are so crazy about this. Thier minds literally skip over the last 100 nice polite conversations and go straight to the 1 asshole they experienced. You can bitch about it all you want, and yes, it's flipping insane.... but that's also just how it is. If you havn't realized by now, debating women is absolutely pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:57 PM
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It was only 1 day. Listen, do you remember the negative feedback experiment? Men literally ignore up to 3 negative results and keep chasing what they want. Women obsess over even 1 negative experience and usually stop after that single bad outcome attempt. Now my sister has hormone issues. She's a big o'le gal and grows a beard better than I do. She uses apps and it's a grand old time for her because she doesn't care about negative experiences. She has a large dick pic collection. So, these guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:45 PM
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I was thinking about this not that long ago. We put pretty much all the pressure and blame of keeping a marriage going on a man. How many of these guys feel like they married down and still don't get the things they really need out of the relationship? I think that would explain a lot of bad behavior. I think a lot of these guys are less in the position of thinking they can't be caught, than just not caring if they get caught. The ladies of course cheat just as much, if not more... but they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:40 PM
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The polite comment was about how the guys interacted with her... I guess? I think if it had gone longer there would have been much more bad behavior. Also... I felt like the ladies profile was mediocre at best and with a number of the guys was seriously punching up. However, what you said is really the kicker. This shit is like marketing. You have to kind of figure out the type of guy that they type of woman you want is looking for and then be an extreme version of that. It's so stupid. One of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:29 PM
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If it's true that women only want to marry for income then we need to tax single women under 40 at a super high rate. On the other hand, if what I believe is true and that women who earn will happily take highly masculine men as husband's. Then we just have to stop actively trying to turn little boys into weak effeminate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:14 AM
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Why in the world do you think the average woman worries about what incels think?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:02 AM
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But, you already made a note that men love possessively. Women do too, but nowhere nearly as strong, in the same way that men also love consumptively but much less. Men do not lose desire for a love that is worth having. The intensity comes and goes but it should never go away. Have you never asked yourself why women that have slept around are viewed by so many men as used up and low value? It's not just insecurity. The core issue is that other men possessed her, used her, and discarded her. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:13 AM
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Think of it like this. It's like eating. You might have had a meal yesterday but today you are hungry. If you are have a reserve you can go a while without but eventually it needs more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:59 AM
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Incorrect. That is possessive love. Consumptive love is not inherently destructive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:27 PM
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Consumptive. I think you don’t know this red pill term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:26 PM
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If you think about it, a lot of male behavior makes more sense. Men show love through dedication. That comes in several forms. The desire to protect, the desire to give attention, the desire to provide for physical needs, the desire to grant status… all of these things are common expressions of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:25 PM
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To a man those things are one and the same. Think of it like this. Men feel love through sex, but it isn’t how they give love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:49 PM
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I think you are still looking at it from a woman’s perspective. Men don’t have consumptive love. That’s much more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:41 PM
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lol… serious partners!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:19 PM
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That is a ridiculous counter point because you wouldn’t even be dating someone like that! I don’t think you realize how easy it is to set yourself above other women with this. Almost none of them do this unless they have just off the charts sexual attraction for a guy. They basically just do what comes naturally and little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:26 PM
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You really don't seem Red Pill to me. Look, the apps were always kind of crappy. However, if you know how they work then you can absolutely fucking kill it all the time. Women havn't really changed except by increasing trashy behavior. Ok. The trick with online is essentially you have to treat it like you are marketing a product. Get professional high quality photos, not shit selfies. You should only have one really good face picture. The rest should be you showing off how amazing your life is. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:25 PM
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Bro, I don't fit anywhere near the definition of a Chad and for over a decade I absolutely killed it. I'm not particularly handsome, I'm in good shape but not crazy fit, I make a good amount of money but enough to get gold diggers interested. What sets me apart is that I spent years and years working on my social skills and ability to read people. The kind of guys you are probably thinking about are like D1 athletes and ballers, guys like that. One of the Red Pill guys I used to hang with back i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:56 PM
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Well... if more men struggled less at the start, they would be less adverse to relationships down the road and have more relationship skills, which would greatly decrease the problems women run into later as well. Most of these issues are really just self defeating spirals that don't need to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:44 PM
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That isn't really how men work. Too many men screen for physical type first. You will see guys in relationships where the man is just wildly unhappy, but he doesn't realize it, and couldn't tell you why. It's because the compatibility is very low. They feel like it's the best they can do, because they overvalue physical type. The guys who focus primarily on compatibility are almost always way happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:41 PM
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I looked at the SAT scores and the results vary wildly from family to family. They had 20 kids in the 18 year range and 4 of them scored above a 1500, which is an insane percentage. However, they also had about 5 kids that didn't even take it. Some of the girls are literally just angling to be housewives which I think is risky in the given cultural environment, and several of the boys are already starting down the path of blue collar careers. But here is the thing... we don't know how big this c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:34 PM
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Uh. Yes they have. We have had societies, tribes, etc. have 3+ accepted genders. This is nothing new. That isn't really what I was talking about. I'm talking about a generally safe and orderly society where women control the vast majority of resources for the middle and lower classes. I mean ancient cultures have always had ladyboys and stuff like that. It was often built into the religious structure. However, they never had huge and important social institutions completely dominated and run by …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:27 PM
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Never underestimate the power of the female hamster. If I can impart any piece of wisdom to you, it's that. In reality, there is no Chad. I suspect a lot of what is going on is just slightly above average guys who now have increased options and simply don't want to settle... a mirror image of the younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:20 PM
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I have multiple social circles. I'm 44 and I keep in touch with most of my Red Pill friends via telegram. I'd say probably 70% or more are married with kids now. I notice a lot of them have more than 2. I would also say more than half married a woman from another country. I'm not seeing many of them talk about divorces. If you look at my social circle from my yacht club... everyone, and I mean everyone has been divorced at least once and the drama is off the charts. They all remarry super fast t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:14 PM
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No, these new gender theories have never been pushed on a mass scale before. We are just now starting to see what the results may wind up looking like As for technology... yeah it's playing a huge role, but only because we are not actively trying to shape the direction it takes us. Part of that is this belief that capitalist markets always choose the right thing no matter what, and the fact that the folks who comprise the government are heavily invested in creating discord and chaos. It prevents…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:02 PM
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Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:53 PM
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I don't want to go into specifics here, but no the cock carousel does not stop at 30. These women are not rushing out to snap up beta buxxer guys. Fact is that especially here on the west coast, the influx of Asians has just wrecked the dating market for older liberal white women. A very large chunk of the Mark Zuckerberg type guys that these ladies have relied upon for two generations... they married in their mid to late 20s and aren't likely to divorce. Combine that with Passport Bros, and MGT…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:51 PM
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I would say it's more of a cycle in human history than just a permanent fixture. The type of person who is an elite within a particular nation, the people who wield overall control, that changes over time. I really think that the best way to understand this is by reading about how people develop and play status games. In the past there was this wide agreement among western nations following the collapse of the nobility, that gaining status through merit was the primary method. However, there hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:42 PM
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The people at the bottom are obviously the ones our society is actively pushing down. One look at the profiles of a group of incels... the similarity of circumstance is shocking. I think the devaluation of marriage and family... if you look the most economically advantaged people are staying married and not struggling with this overall. If you look at middle class and poor people... this has been absolutely devastating to thier ability to form and maintain families... which is creating generatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:28 PM
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In this instance, I'm talking pure economics. I really think money and power are the primary things driving this. Core issues like technological change exist, but every culture reacts to these things differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:53 PM
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It's primarily a political and cultural issue. The answer to this is very simple. Men who want a long term partner need to improve themselves as much as possible. Attempt to date in your current country as much as you can. If things still aren't working... then the Passport Bros have your solution. Women will just do whatever they want long term. Nothing is going to convince them to change course, and honestly maybe they will be happier long term with good friends, wine, and xanax. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:48 PM
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This isn't really true. In the west we are basically running a social experiment that's never been tried before and generally speaking... it's not going well for folks at the bottom. People at the top are benefitting wildly and are not going to change course unless forced. When you really stop and think about it. The core problems are primarily cultural and political. So, in that way you are correct that this thing is way bigger than any one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:44 PM
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Well, the evolutionary psychology people refer to these men as Resource Controllers. I think that should tell you everything that you need to know about the phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:48 PM
1

Well, think about it. High education women make more money. They don’t benefit anywhere near as much from leaving. Although, they cheat like bloody champs!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:15 AM
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I did actually. Much happier now. The question though... is what are you going to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:44 AM
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Yeah, I don't get it. If you are technically asking someone to eat at the same restuarant for the rest of their lives... I suspect that if the restaurant is something like Applebees, people will eventually want to see if they can get back to that one super fine dining location with a snooty french waiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:42 PM
3

Let me ask you this. When you are with a man, do you want him to make you feel desired? Or would you prefer he act mostly uninterested in you sexually and let you just pretend he is really hot for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:32 PM
1

Oh, I totally understand what you are saying 10 years ago I was in your position. It changes a bit as you get older... your money grows up for one. I hope this girl you got stays level headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:28 PM
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The white knight appears. It takes two… and these guys are bloody incels they don’t have freaking girlfriends, and even if they did who is going to teach them this stuff? You? When you have two people in a relationship it’s important that both people take responsibility for their own pleasure. It’s important to make your partner feel desired and special. These aren’t big asks. I don’t know why you think only men are responsible for doing this. Actually, maybe I do know. Your whole tiresome act i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:18 PM
1

Even if she married that dude, it wouldn’t have taken long for her to be knocking at your door again. This is just AF/BB, and you were the A. Also… she’s clearly batshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:56 PM
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I keep a rubber protector on my bed for just that reason. So tell me a more about this relationship. How did you meet her and why was she cheating and with who?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:10 PM
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I understand where you are coming from, but that’s kind of what OP is expecting. Now I’m typing this to you with the expectation that he will read it. What I don’t think OP is expecting or wanting is a true explanation of how this actually works. Sex most people will be shocked to learn is an extremely emotional thing. A lot of guys like to think of this as something physical that is all about body parts. But when they stop and really examine themselves, even the most shallow of men are shallow …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:07 PM
5

Bro, you gotta learn how to tell fake orgasms from real ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:34 PM
1

What you are missing here is that these feelings of insecurity are because men HIGHLY VALUE their role as a lover. Women have just a fuckton of insecurities and neurotic issues I have to work hard to help them with, and although there is some overlap every woman is a bit different in this. The only thing that is always the same is that there is always an insecurity I’m helping with. So, I’m just going to lay this out there. If you can’t make your man feel like he’s the best lover you’ve ever had…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:31 PM
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You mean AF/BB? I can't think of any RP beliefs that are about marriage off the top of my head. Although most of the old timers are married with kids now, so this may have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:27 PM
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This is competely contrary to almost all of my personal experiences, including my own divorce... which left me living in a car for 2 months. I didn't even have kids with her. Most of the guys I know are in a bit of a higher income bracket. Not rich, but $200-300k in income... these guys get hosed almost every single time. Especially if they try to play Mr Niceguy. All I can think of is that maybe there is some variation by state, or that it's very different for lower income couples... who make u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:18 PM
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My opinion on it is this. If you are a stay at home mom, and you weren't running around cheating... you should get the house automatically, along with with enough monthly income to continue without disruption. If the wife was working, division of assests should be set at whatever the contribution split is... if she made 60% of the income, she gets that much of everything. Debts should be evaluated and split based on the primary beneficiary of the debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:08 PM
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What you are saying here isn't accurate, especially in the upper middle class. Low income women married to low income men, yeah those ladies tend to lose out and they push the numbers where I live. Just believe me here... if men could leave a marriage and walk out with even $500 a month, a lot of these fuckers would be lined up to file, paperwork be damned. It's not that bloody hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:00 PM
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Wait… so it’s about even in relationships, but heavily favoring women once a marriage is initiated? Hmm. I wonder if a heavily biased court system has anything to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:27 AM
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It’s a fact. He used the handle Morpheus Mandrake or something. We called him Morpheus Buttfuck and hit him with the Ban Hammer. Look back then you couldn’t be Red Pill unless you were vetted and approved by someone else who was already approved. The guy who pulled me in was none other than Stonk. Steiner and Stonk made Tucker Max look tame… these guys. I could write novels on the shit they did. Anyway my point is that it’s not 2015 anymore and if you read the Reddit sidebar it’s Morpheus Buttfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:54 AM
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Red Pill is for creating strategies... It's mostly PUA. Black Pill wants to shame... for what purpose I don't fucking know. How do you shame the shameless?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:18 AM
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It depends on whether you know the real thing, or the idiotic reddit version. The Reddit guys were mostly the ones who had been kicked out of the Red Pill community back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:17 AM
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Ever been passed up for promotion by someone who has no experience or qualifications and poor job performance? Any man who works for a large US based corporation and is any kind of ambitous has had this thing where a woman get's put into a position they applied for, and the resume is very thin. Before all this stuff was hidden, but today you can see everyones qualifications on LinkedIn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:03 PM
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One of the powerful things about having an ancient code of ethics that you both share, is the ability to hold him accountable to it. Also it tends to have a great pile of wisdom to impart. But realistically, you are completely correct, you would have to really raise boys with the intention of making them like this with all the correct cultural carrots and sticks. Even then, it takes some bad ass communication skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:52 AM
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Well, you don't have to agree, because it's just my opinion. However, I was raised by atheists... and my father is about as controlling as you can get. So, I wonder how much of this was religion and how much culture, because there were a lot of guys like that back in the day. I knew some. Another thing. Incompetent and selfish controlling is very different from loving and caring controlling. I think sometimes people don't enjoy choice as much as we think we do. That may just be my childhood talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:08 AM
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Hit me up later and I will share the inside joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:03 AM
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I'm cool with affirmative action for black women only. No other women should get it. Same all the wage gap crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:02 AM
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I don't care if it helps men date. I'm just sick and fucking tired of being pushed down. Google did that research on the gender pay gap and found they had been royally fucking men over. That stuff is going on everywhere. Look if they want to take thier marbles and go play by themselves, I don't fucking care. But if they also want to use government to strong arm me out of money that I worked harder than they did to get... that's not right!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:53 AM
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LOL... *thanx Thought about finding a male version in 2021... got a little chubby during the lock downs. Now I know why I couldn't find any.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:46 AM
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Uh... Go read the Bible. That's basically what it tells men to be like. But women don't like it because it says you gotta trust your husband and ain't none of these gonna do that here. We are running this giant social experiment where we want to create a new kind of man and a woman that can be whatever she wants. The key issue here... it's not working for the boys and hasn't been for 50 years. So you are left to sift through the garbage can filled with disposed of men to see if you can find some…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:43 AM
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Uh... advantages... not advances. Bro you read that wrong. I'm talking affirmative action and the cultural ass kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:38 AM
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I think most men who have read the literature understand that what women demand in a man is directly linked to how she sees her own quality. Red Pill figured this out fucking ages ago when we realized how extremely effective negs are in getting women to accept you. Literally a woman who sees herself as highly attractive will not settle for a shorter man under any conditions... unless someone knocks her down a peg. Right now we basically hope time and age do this. So we could fix the whole thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:35 AM
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It's all fine and dandy if we ditch all the economic advantages we have been loading them up with. Men pay for that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:22 AM
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OMG... Gravemaxxing! This needs to be a thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:15 AM
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The characteristics that make a good lover are often in conflict with those that make a good life partner. Most have to be willing to choose because our culture doesn't create these folks in large amounts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:11 AM
1

Your wisdom has a beauty all it's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:53 AM
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This is truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:33 AM
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You can always rekindle it. Find a grave with your mom's last name. Take him there at night and cry. He will get swept up in the emotions and then you seduce him. If he says "wait, your mom died in 1891", just say "ssshhhh... don't question it." Extreme passion! When it works, come back and say Thank you PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:31 AM
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Tate is an absolute scumbag, but he was an MMA fighter and was naturally successful with women. Peterson on the other hand actually helps pull these guys out of their insanity, but a lot of them just don’t want help. The very core of the issue is that I think nobody really cares what happens to them including their own mothers. However, that’s from polling data they themselves give… and maybe they just perceive their moms don’t care when they actually do. I honestly believe the problem starts wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:32 AM
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Are the young women really that bad? I mean I don’t talk to them much, but a year ago I told one to shut off her phone at the gym because she was filming herself. Seriously, her pants were 4 sizes too small and stretched like they were going to split… just bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:13 PM
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I've read a couple of the studies on these boys from a number of sources, one of the more impactful is the one by William Costello. What I find very striking is the percentage of these boys who come from very left wing backgrounds. In fact they can now predict concentrations of them based on the population demographics and primary political persuasion of a particular metro area. I was in the Red Pill since at least 2009... we didn't even use that term back then. It was 2015, 2016, when we starte…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:42 PM
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Yeah, he is wrong, and you are essentially correct. There is a fundamental flaw in male sexuality, but most women find that flaw attractive, so... that's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:22 PM
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LOL! Yes thank you! Somehow I got into my head the base word was encourage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:01 PM
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Naw, I think most the Red Pill guys actually have a decent handle on female attraction. I mean it's really about the kind of guy you want, and your emotional needs. This is fundamentally why women have types... and it's why there is so much variation in what they find physically attractive. I've found the absolute most shallow women around are both conventionally attractive and very insecure... and that combination usually makes them hyper shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:57 PM
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I've been thinking about this exact issue the last few weeks. If I was a woman, how would I go about dating in such a way as to weed out men who are lying just to get sex, while also holding onto men who are willing and capable of a good relationship. Even more complicated, making sure you are attracted that that particular guy, because by his very nature he is going to be less attractive to most women. The only thing I've come up with so far is to get emotional investment from him as quickly as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:47 PM
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Ah, but what we are really talking about here is what happens to men who find easy success with women. I've known some very attractive and wonderful guys who had no problem getting women interested and maintained a very healthy and wonderful respect. Every single one of these guys I've ever known are very religious. On the other hand, I've been in locker rooms, I've heard the locker room talk. I know guys who were insanely successful with women. I knew a college football player who slept with ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:33 PM
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You are spot on! Yes, the Red Pill at it's core is a bunch of average guys and nerds, trying to copy what naturally attractive men say, think, and do to attract women. One of the things that I'm very sorry most women completely misunderstand is how these guys really think of them. I will see women rail against some nerd who is frustrated at his dating prospects, while simultaneously kissing the ass of a man who I know to be an incorrigible rapist. It's mind boggling but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:19 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way, because I think of it as a compliment... but you really don't seem like the type who messes around with the guys who would be doing what OP is talking about. It's called locker room talk for a reason and I've been in those locker rooms on those sports teams and I've absolutely heard what those guys say. I think a lot of women are confusing black pill nihilism with Red Pill opportunism. The basic idea of the Red Pill was to copy what these very successful men think,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:11 PM
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Well, of course a woman doesn't hook up with every single guy that looks good to her. A lot of them are going to be married, with other people, or just never approach her. Maybe try to think about it like this. Hooking up with a guy is the number one indicator of sexual chemistry and attraction. If that doesn't happen... it's a huge indicator that you don't turn her on, and that the reason she wants to date you is for other reasons. I think it's completely valid for her to want to date any man s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:04 PM
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I mean look at the title by itself. "Bruteforce Women is probably the best dating approach ever (autist proof)" Bruteforce Women is capitalized like a proper noun. My first impression was really that this was going to be about some kind of proof that autistic men need dates where women apply brute force to them. The mental image is some Sheldon looking skinny nerd on a date where Ronda Roussey is choking him out. My mind actually starts going down the path of... well maybe these guys would do be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:53 PM
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How the two things intersect is that if someone does this with someone who they have strong sexual chemistry with in the past, the likelyhood of doing it in the future is very high. If they don't, it means there just isn't enough attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:21 PM
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Good heavens! That might actually get a lot of people listening. I just can't wait for the next installment of bizzare intrasexual rantings and ravings by WolfLoveEyes... I mean even the user name has a certain low intensity crazy vibe. That Zac Galifinakas character from The Hangover.... this poster gives me a really similar feel. Like, when he says something absolutely bonkers, but with a casual confidence, as if it's almost shocking we don't already know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:17 PM
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Of course it's terrible, but it is also the exact way a lot of guys take your advice. They have all these bad traits and the "Just be yourself" people gaslight them into thinking these traits will be acceptable to the right person. Find a better way to phrase this because it's very harmful advice to a fairly large subset of guys. You don't want to go too far outside the realm of your actual personality and the things you enjoy. What happends at that point is you start to feel the gap between who…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:55 PM
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It's really about sexual chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:48 PM
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Not if it's something she hasn't done before. There are a few women who just don't engage like that and I both understand and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:42 PM
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The problem with that advice is that it gives the wrong impression. Be your Best Self is a much better way to put it. I mean if your idea of humor is insulting people... are you really suggesting that a guy should go around insulting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:21 PM
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Game deniers! Do you understand how female attraction actually works? .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:04 PM
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Let's be real. If you have ever read anything this guy posts, you know he has a medical condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:37 PM
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When I see something from WolfLoveEyes... I know that shit is going to be epic. The sheer insanity of meeting a woman and going "Hey you want to see my mom's grave?" Then he literally forgot to put in the transition of going from the graveyard to... I don't know... a location with a bed. So, it reads like he is trying to get laid in the cemetary on top of his mother's grave. It's delivered with such seriousness that I can't help laughing. I mean most interactions in here make me laugh, but this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:27 PM
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Bro, I’ve been Red Pill for decades. I started in PUA… as we all did back then. Are you a game denier?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:47 PM
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She’s online dating at that age and going for young men? You already know she’s nuts. Why take her as anything typical?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:43 PM
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The Sheik is the novel. The silent movie of the same name was so big it launched the career of Rudolph Valentino… top leading man of the whole era.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:35 PM
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It’s been about 8 or 9 years, but in my experience women are so incredibly polite about this that it makes you feel very grateful when you stop and think about it. Of course post MeToo things may have changed. It’s possible the younger ones are mostly all assholes now. That could explain some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:30 PM
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The fuck would you want to date her for anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:24 PM
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You are NOT Red Pill. I’ve seen short fat bald guys be successful with street pickup. Getting rejected is part of life and there is immense power in being able to deal with it. I see most guys need maybe 300 rejections in order to get to a state of not being bothered by it. Along the way you are very likely to have some success as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:22 PM
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It gets better with practice. The real trick is being interesting and funny, or polarizing in some way, and then being able to gauge her reaction. It’s so incredibly hard at the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:18 PM
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There is a perception that these guys are hyper masculine big dick desert warriors. It’s been a Euro woman fetish for hundreds of years. These guys used to be the world’s biggest slavers. The top selling English woman romance story is about a woman who gets enslaved by one of the Sheiks and he falls in love with her after raping her a lot. Fucked up but true!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:14 PM
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What? That cannot be correct. $4,000 I would believe and 2 months of no pay is much more likely. Otherwise we are talking about college kids or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:27 AM
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Brutal!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:44 AM
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No. Men did not agree just to get laid. Most of those men were husbands and grandfathers. Men agreed because they wanted something better for the women they love. So, why don’t women want something better for their husbands, fathers, and sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:55 AM
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Sure, if you’ve never done that before. However if you are in the 80% that have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:54 AM
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You kind of have it right. One of the very key differences between black and red pill is that black pill is terrified of rejection up front... before she knows you. Red Pill is heavily versed in PUA and not worried about that. Instead we do whatever it takes to avoid rejection on the back end of a relationship. I've always felt that while there is truth to the Alpha Widow idea... it's typically just used as an excuse to dump her before she dumps you. Is it for preservation of ego? I think it's m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:39 AM
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To me it’s all about core attraction. Usually that comes down to sex, but there are other routes. So, I generally give anyone I date the chance. It’s usually about 2 to 6 months nothing serious. If I feel like she is really into me, I drop everything and focus on her. That really gives her a chance to emotionally engage me. Usually by a certain point I know if it’s going to work or not and if not, I just tell her it’s not working. If it is working I take the step of putting her into my everyday …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:41 PM
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Hahaha… that is NOT what Red Pill says, that’s black pill. Red pill talks about Alpha Widows. That’s a different concept. So if you had like 20 sub par exes, generally you can pair bond well, unless the reason you were at 20 is because you have mental health or past trauma issues. If you had just one X, but the guy is an NFL player. Red Pill will worry MUCH more about that than the previous. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:08 PM
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Well yeah, that’s the point. When you go into an internship it’s always the hope to get hired. That’s why you put in the effort. Right? I don’t think it’s really a good analogy either though. The point I’m making is that if a woman sees value in me and finds me physically attractive… no matter what the past experience is… she will take that risk. I’ve just learned this with too many bad experiences in my 20s. Now, it doesn’t always work out but, damn if I don’t give it my absolute best shot when…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:38 PM
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No, Inactively dislike virgins. Too many of them sit around wondering what other men are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:56 PM
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It matters TO YOU. The guy you are with, he only know what you tell him. However, you are the one who is going to have issues being happy with a second place guy. You are the one that will always think back to that amazing time. Or… if the guy sucks you are just going to regret ever touching him. So, it’s usually a lose, lose scenario for most women, but they go into it thinking they can emotionally compartmentalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:55 PM
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Or… maybe you did! Been shagging fat wheezy old men that can’t keep it up with you or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:46 PM
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Best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. If you know basic seduction, your chances go up significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:45 PM
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Yeah, that would be, IF that’s how I approach the situation. I look at it like this. If she really is attracted to me, this is what she will do. It has nothing to do with what I deserve or expect. Almost no women are willing to put out that kind of effort. So you just take what you get, but keep in mind she isn’t that into you. That’s the attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:35 PM
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Uh… anyone who is trying to date a brand of alcohol has serious issues. No relationship should start with stuff I’ve done with other people but you aren’t good enough to even try with. You got yourself a winner there!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:31 PM
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Now that is very interesting. Can you elaborate on that idea? I’m not sure I follow the Why of it. Why is comparing to 3 worse than 20? From my side… and I’m way over 20… I have issues thinking of anyone as special in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:23 PM
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I totally get it. But I’m not here to be someone’s second place guy. So, I usually go in betting that she is just as hot for me as the other guy. It’s the best way to know what she really thinks. So, if I get slow played, then I know that there probably isn’t a future with this one. By the way, most of your analogies don’t capture the situation well. Maybe Sky Diving is the closest. Because it has to convey something you really, really want… but can’t hold onto. Like a job your aren’t qualified …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:20 PM
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Well, I tried stocks but I’m so chronically risk adverse. I have a very high pay career, so I’m never hurting. I would buy a stock and as soon as it goes up, I’d sell. When they go down I’d hang on forever until it goes back up. I lost a pile on Suntech one time and it was more than I had made on everything else that year… so I switched to something I can do better. The thing with love is that it really is extremely powerful, but it’s just like any other feeling… it comes and goes. Also if you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:49 PM
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Yeah, no offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:50 AM
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Look Bro, you disagree then sure, provide a logical argument or you are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:49 AM
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Uh... your body count is what you say it is. I mean, I can generally Ballpark it based on your personality and childhood, but nobody can tell in detail except you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:42 AM
1

This sounds like experience talking. You would grab a friend? To me that seems like a very reasonable approach to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:38 AM
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Yeah, but if you ask the question "have you ever engaged in casual sex" to women that number is very high. I've seen polling that puts it anywhere from 60-80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:32 AM
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facepalm Did you not know what that word means? First you have to know what you want and then believe you deserve it for whatever reason. Men in this situation don't fit either of those stipulations. They have no idea why they feel bad, and they don't really believe they deserve anything better else they would walk immediately. A much better example of entitlement is say a lady who won't date men under a certain height. She knows what she wants and feels she deserves it. It does not matter wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:25 AM
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15 to 20 years basically. It’s a retirement thing for me. I’m playing with crypto too. Fact is that with inflation going nuts I knew Bitcoin was going to blow up. So I bought in a while ago and it’s making huge money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:27 AM
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There really aren't that many ways. Found a company, buy stock in a company, buy an item you expect to appreciate in value, buy or build an item you can sell. I buy real estate and rent it out. I did houses before but that was starting to suck, so I moved to vacation rentals. I've still got a few of both, and margins are razor thin sometimes, but once it's all paid off I will be very wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:35 AM
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It's just too crazy. Women spend their own money like fucking mad men. They get cheap as hell when a guy shows up. Men will not just do anything to keep hoes around. I ditched my cheating ex so damn fast... even though by this theory I worked hard for that sex and shouldn't give it up. Whole thing makes no sense. Abandon this thread and start a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:25 AM
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The fuck? 99% of human history women worked thier asses off both in and outside of the house. During the industrial revolution women worked in sewing factories in 16 hour shifts. I once read that it wasn't uncommon for a wife to fall asleep at the dinner table in the middle of chewing food. Rich bitches were the ones that didn't work and the housewife thing that appeared 60 years after this period was an attempt to copy the wealthy. You aren't lucky. When the government starts taxing your ass at…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:19 AM
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Explain in more simple terms how I treat women like money... and what do they treat me like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:45 AM
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Huh? I use my money to make money. If I used women like that... The whole thing just doesn't make sense my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:30 AM
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Absolutely true, within reason. Choose. She has only 1 ex, but he is an NFL player. Or she has 10 exes who are just average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:18 PM
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Because of what it takes to get to that point. Take a moment and think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:14 PM
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I believe it’s the one by William Costello published in 2022
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:04 PM
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They don't realize that we judge them the same way they judge us... but with more experience it means you are much higher quality that they are. All it takes to be high body count woman is tits... don't even need a useable orifice. On the other hand, for a guy it means you are damn good at what you do, and tons of women want to be with you. I think women believe that means they are extra special if they can lock a guy like this down... but usually we got shit on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:02 PM
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They only care about it if the woman they are with treats them like shit. If you make the guy wait and then are terrible in bed... this is 90% of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:58 PM
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Oh... I don't mess around with virgins because I have to plans on moving to marriage. I had a woman lie like this and when it came down to actually do it she was so wierd and awkward at 29! I had to stop and ask her again and she broke down and told me. Made sense because she was really heavy for a long time and didn't get fit until 25 or so... by then had so much insecurity. Anyway. Please tell women not to lie about this. A lot of players prefer not to go there with good girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:54 PM
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I think you should judge men by that same standard. I say that as a guy who would likely be judged very harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:49 PM
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Complicated topic. It's unkown why high notch count women have such a drastic decline in relationship satisfaction, but most guys are totally convinved it's because of comparing to past lovers. I have experience with some of these women, so I'm not entirely certain that explains it. I also don't understand why women seem to be so chill with high notch count men. It's like they think we dont' compare them to past lovers or something. You know we do right? Even crazier, highly experienced men... w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:45 PM
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