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Pardon my scepticism. I've been watching MRAs fail to pick up obvious sarcasm for six years now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/21 05:53 AM
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If we're going to have standards then The Eagles were not musicians, Milton Friedman was not an economist, Trump was a heir and TV actor but neither a businessman nor a politician. That isn't going to be practical because there is an impossibly high level of disagreement on which people have committed sins serious enough to get them thrown out of the category they otherwise obviously belong in, and in fact may have defined. Shall we throw Marx out of Marxism too? Was Hitler not really a Nazi, or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/21 03:59 AM
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She's obviously not progressive at all. I'm not an expert on what counts as progressive but I'm sure that by any reasonable checklist she falls firmly into the progressive camp. You can't gatekeep her out of it by being upset about one bit of behaviour. Or ten bits, unless you can justify why she would be better described by some other label. I'd be surprised if you can. Either we can joke about anything or we can't. Says who? Some people think there should be no topics absolutely exempted from …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/21 04:13 PM
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GenderCritical was TERF central. It grows out of the 2nd wave acceptance of gender determinism, which is why TERFS and TradCon Christians have so much in common on trans issues. TERFs are by the -RF part, Radical Feminists. They didn't make the jump from 2nd wave to 3rd in the early 90s, and the retain the casual and sometimes deep misandry common in 2nd wavers but which has always been especially prominent in rad fems e.g. Dworkin, McKinnon. The "feminist" lines we can rage-quote from memory ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/21 06:26 AM
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TERFs are by the -RF part, Radical Feminists. They didn't make the jump from 2nd wave to 3rd in the early 90s, and the retain the casual misandry common in 2nd wavers but which has always been especially prominent in rad fems e.g. Dworkin, McKinnon. The "feminist" lines we can rage-quote from memory are predominantly from rad fems. There is no conflict between the anti-TERF-ism of mainstream feminism and #KillAllMen. KAM is a bit of satirical hyperbole originating from a young fully 3rd wave pro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/21 06:19 AM
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That is just one definition of sexism, and it is such a minor usage I don't think it is even mentioned in dictionaries or even encyclopedias. I can think of two far more popular usages, with variations. Ĺegal, institutional and social structures which create systematic gendered disadvantage is the most popular definition among educated people. Many feminists insist that because it is systematic only the gender they claim to be overwhelmingly dominant can be sexist, but the wider public and mysel…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:34 AM
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I don't think deleting sexist comments is tone policing, but it might be impractical here. Too many fights over what sexism means, and whether a comment fits it.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 11:10 AM
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Deleting racism and anti-semitism is not tone policing. Neither is deleting sexist and misogynist conments in theory but in practice on this sub that will grade into tone policing with no clear boundary, it would make for a lot of arguments. There is a lot of stuff here that would get downvoted at MensRights, I don't know if the mods get involved though.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:49 AM
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Yes that is hella problematic. Just because something would not be convicted in a criminal court does not mean Reddit will tolerate it.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:47 AM
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"They" don't come for you in particular, and if they did they do not come in a form which gives you anything you could shoot at to defend yourself. What do you imagine, half a dozen feminist stormtroopers hammering on your door and demanding... What exactly?
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:44 AM
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Anything the govt does to help babies and children inevitably creates more of them. That does not make it a bad deal though. The benefits of avoiding deprivation and damage are gigantic, it is an excellent investment. And for that calculation let's just pretend there is a magic fairy to write the country a million dollar check for each person imprisoned long term. It still works out fine. Source: Have spent a lot of time around people deprived and damaged in childhood. I'm sure this sub has far …
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 09:50 AM
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data from four large-scale federal agency surveys conducted independently by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Bureau of Justice Statistics in 2008 through 2013. We found these data to contradict the common belief that female sexual perpetration is rare. We therefore reviewed the broader literature to identify patterns and provide context, including among high-risk populations such as college students and inmates. The CDC is, or is among the most highly regarded epidemologic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:41 AM
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I don't want to trigger anyone here but feminists did most of the work to push for un-gendered parental leave laws in most countries. They have always supported it. Their aim is for an amount the couple can split any way that suits them, and that is the trend in most countries.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 10:12 AM
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The international trend is for parental leave to be ungendered and splittable however it suits the couple - the man can take it all and some do. The first 2-4 months is paid at a basic rate usually, and up to a year is unpaid with the right to return to the job. A more recent addition is a week or two of paid leave which can only be taken by the man, because many men were not taking any parental leave. The US's weak parental leave laws are unique among developed countries I think.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 09:55 AM
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The troops will still be separated by sex. I guess in small towns they will combine, just as has long been done in small centers for soccer and many other normally segregated activities.
/r/MGTOW10/05/18 03:09 AM
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It was only the international Mormon organisation that dissociated its youth programs. The headline, as is so common, was misleading
/r/MGTOW10/05/18 03:05 AM
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It is 425k Mormons around the world. The global organisation dissociated their youth program from Scouts. By writing "in the first week" the headline made it sound line a continuous process, as if it was individual kids leaving in large numbers. In fact the number of individuals leaving was too small to mention
/r/MGTOW10/05/18 02:57 AM
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That memory problem sounds like the root of this. You are just extremely unlucky to have become a target. The chances of that happening to you again are infintesimal, this is not a reason to lock down your life any more than you need to to deal with this situation. I talk a lot with people who were severely abused during childhood (usually psychological by parents but physical and sexual too sometimes, and of course they are a target for those later). A lack of memories from childhood or around …
/r/MGTOW13/03/18 01:38 AM
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So we get a society where all groups get to participate? I am old and remember what it was like when many jobs had no women in them. For 'practical' reasons of course. I would not want to return to those days, or to when professional jobs were pretty much only done by white people. I left a job I loved because it was single sex. Out in the mountains for a month at a time with 2 to 6 guys. Great job otherwise but 2x 2 years was enough.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 10:05 AM
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Yes it is bullshit. Total suicides are 42/week. The data does not exist but 21 ridiculously too high. MensRights is not a safe space like Teh Donald, Redpill, MGTOW. For better and worse you can speak your mind here.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 10:21 AM
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It is bullshit. Nobody knows the true figure but the total is 42 so 21 is obviously untrue.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 10:15 AM
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This is long-disproved fake news. I don't know if the alleged note is real, though I'm sure it does capture the essence of many genuine suicides. The claimed 21 is half of all male suicides at all ages, including heaps of guys too young to have children. Information to produce the correct figure does not exist. http://theconversation.com/factcheck-are-up-to-21-fathers-dying-by-suicide-every-week-87308
/r/MensRights04/03/18 10:08 AM
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The numbers are crap but the suicidal effect of having access to children blocked is well known. I hope things are better now.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 09:59 AM
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It is complete bullshit, and the group have done little to try to fix the damage they did by releasing it. The claimed 21/week is half of the total suicide rate from all causes. The alleged statistic does not exist. There is no count of men killing themselves for those reasons. Researching it would require analysing coroner's reports one by one, I'm not aware of that having been done. The group claim that their claim originated in a comment by an ambulance driver who somehow learned the life cir…
/r/MensRights04/03/18 09:55 AM
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As epidemiological questions go the relation between fluoridation and health statistics is extremely easy to investigate because we have nice identifiable country and city-sized blocks to check. Relationships with every single countable health indicator have been checked. If there was anything there it would stand out immediately.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 09:33 AM
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We don't see it as part of political activities any more because the climate has changed such that it does not need to be. Access to most jobs and activities had to be fought for, but the legal part of that fight is pretty much won IMO. Culturally things are pretty open to women now too, I think they will be welcomed into most activities. It isn't just about safety. Some women still complain about their partners and suitors putting them on a pedestal. It gets boring and limiting.
/r/MensRights03/03/18 06:54 PM
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Thanks for those. I've read the first one, it explains the problems clearly. The guys claiming 30% parental discrepancy above are miles out, it is weird that people can believe it could be so high. Here is a 2016 study which found 1% - 2% in multiple countries, lower than previous estimates of a few percent. https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tree.2016.03.004
/r/MensRights03/03/18 01:41 PM
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Source? I saw a claim that one brothel in Sydney had 6% women clients and growing fast, which is a lot more than other sources I've seen on the subject. Maybe it was their specialty. A more common report is that a brothel might try keeping one guy on duty and not get much business.
/r/MensRights03/03/18 01:02 PM
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Prostitutes aren't trafficked - that's pure feminist hysteria/myths. There is hysteria, sure. I thought it came more from religious people opposed to the sex industry than from feminists. I saw an article about the very dodgy numbers being promoted. But that doesn't mean trafficking isn't a major problem in some places. [Feminists] hate/envy sex so they think women must be forced into it because it's unthinkable that any women would simply love cock. In my experience feminists love cock as much …
/r/MensRights03/03/18 12:59 PM
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at least 1/3 of kids have different biological dads from their real dads. I guess you are referring to stepfathers, adoption etc but your comment is taken by some to mean that 1/3 of kids fathers are incorrectly identified by the mother. That is nowhere near true. Disputed paternity tests are hugely biased because the money is only spent on them when there is suspicion. They show a very high rate of parental discrepancy, several studies found around 30%. A couple of studies found only 17%. Tests…
/r/MensRights03/03/18 11:10 AM
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A 2016 study found only 1% - 2% of misidentified kids, lower than previous estimates of a few percent: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tree.2016.03.004 Figures around 30% are not for the whole population, they are typical for studies of the extremely biased sample of disputed paternity tests. Studies done for medical tests where the mothers knew the results would reveal true fatherhood can be biased low because some mothers choose not to be tested. They typically find a few percent …
/r/MensRights03/03/18 11:05 AM
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Indeed. If it is true, that doesn't excuse reading and commenting on it. Promoting unverified news is promoting chaos and the rule of society by whoever can afford the biggest social media manipulation army.
/r/MensRights03/03/18 11:00 AM
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IMO feminism has suffered from a lack of critics that it cared about. (Some part of that problem can be turned back on the quality of criticism. Most of it is shallow and repetitive, and feminists get used to dismissing it). Anyway, humans are a lot better at detecting and understanding privilege in others than in themselves. Feminists are human. So when the pedestal works in women's favour it is accepted as natural.
/r/MensRights03/03/18 10:32 AM
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But the US has much longer sentences than other English speaking countries. 28 years before parole is super long by NZ standards.
/r/MensRights01/03/18 10:57 AM
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True, but exploiting whatever advantages you find yourself with is not a feminist or female thing, that's just what humans do.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 07:07 AM
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I wondered at first if he set it up so the answer could go viral. It is such a dorky and misleading thing to say because women were rarely able to be involved much in those fields (except shootings). Given that, it is OK that her examples are exceptional or weak. The idea that putting women on a pedestal denies their agency and full humanity has been a key part of feminism since the late 1960s at least, so he needed schooling on that unless he's playing the patsy. Moore's female supremacism ran …
/r/MensRights26/02/18 06:54 AM
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"Legbeard" is relevant here. The rebellion against shaving legs, wearing bras etc was partly a deliberate climbing down off the pedestal, for the reasons cited here - the pedestal denies women's full humanity and agency.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 06:26 AM
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The idea that putting women on a pedestal denies their agency and full humanity has been a key part of feminism since the late 1960s at least.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 06:14 AM
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What she said is standard feminist doctrine since at least the late 1960s. But there were also less smart feminists who would say stuff like what Michael Moore did. That was quite common with the 2nd wavers, there was a lot of female supremacism around then. That pretty much died out during the 1980s, the third wavers don't do that. (Except the airheaded ones, but they get slapped down now).
/r/MensRights26/02/18 06:02 AM
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That is a good point, the dominance can go to a female minority if a lot of the men present take their lead. I have seen that happen for issues that mostly concern women, e.g. if women say they want some late-night car parking spaces reserved for them close to the building then men will tend to vote for their preferred solution. For non-gendered discussions I haven't noticed women dominating though, the opposite is more common in my experience.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 05:27 AM
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Growing up is not a straightforward process to everybody. And now Incels have developed their own toxic variant of RedPill-ism many of them will be permanently unwanted, regardless of whether they get laid occasionally or not. I don't see a way to rescue those guys but the younger ones could be helped, before they disappear into their bedroom for six solid years.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 05:07 AM
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I've supported quite a bit of feminist stuff over the last 40 years and never got so much as a peck on the cheek for it, which is as it should be. Feminists understand giving out cookies in return for compliance would not attract useful allies, just a bunch of pussy-seeking hangers-on. So male allies get snarled at regularly and unapologetically by some of the wilder women. If they can't take it then they are not going to be able to stand up for themselves outside a feminist safe space. And if t…
/r/MensRights26/02/18 04:48 AM
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It is callous not malicious. The enemy and any loosely associated groups are dehumanised. The formal charge should be "Hurling an accusation with reckless disregard for the emotional safety of bystanders".
/r/MensRights26/02/18 03:29 AM
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Incels are an easy and safe target. Loathing unpopular outgroups is a cheap and nasty way to bond with your group. If I was a woman I'd go and bang some feminists' heads together about this sort of stuff. I do a bit as a man but it is hard work introducing critical ideas without being dismissed as uneducated or from the enemy tribe. OTOH InCels do not lack authority within their specialised worlds. Those hands that have never touched a woman may have exquisite skill at computer gaming. They may …
/r/MensRights26/02/18 03:25 AM
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They are often pretty loathsome, if you ever spent any time on their sub (which has now gone to heaven). Also Incels do a lot of dark humour and irony, which is misunderstood by horrified normies. Some folks think autists lack a sense of humour, this is not at all true. It is just different humour.
/r/MensRights25/02/18 07:46 AM
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It looks like a malicious technique but I hang out with feminists quite a bit online and the sad truth is they mostly don't have a clue about the manosphere, there are few with even a basic understanding of the differences between the groups. they just do not want to consider the fact that MRAs and the people who support them are human beings too with real concerns. That is fair comment. They are happy to write off MRAs as simply needing enlightenment that feminism will solve all problems. Not t…
/r/MensRights25/02/18 07:41 AM
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the admins decided to make reddit the next tumblr. How could they do that? Only the most extreme stuff has been removed, I don't see how that changes anything for mainstream subs like MensRights, TRP and MGTOW, or for the women's and feminist subs. The admins choose which subs go on the front page though, for people who use that. Last year the admins deleted: The worst racist hate sub (It is nice that most people have no idea how vile it was). A hate sub against fat people (said to be for allowi…
/r/MensRights25/02/18 07:26 AM
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I can't imagine how that would feel. Can you tell us what happened?
/r/MensRights25/02/18 05:16 AM
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It depends who you listen to whether Reddit is overwhelmingly left / right or feminist / MRA. Research since the late 70's has shown that men start to perceive a mixed group as "female dominated" when it attains a surprisingly low proportion of females - as low as 20% in some old experiments I think. It has changed since then. I used to look out for women getting talked over or just ignored in meetings. It was once common but at least in the IT field I don't see it as a significant problem now, …
/r/MensRights25/02/18 04:27 AM
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You need to read our minds, then you will know what we want you to communicate. Otherwise we will go and console ourselves with porn movies. Logic! :)
/r/MensRights25/02/18 03:57 AM
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It can be taken two ways. I took it as just a funny shift in meaning, dependent on imagining people can jump into a movie. It works in the comic world. In real life the woman is saying what she'd like from him, which he would be wise to consider carefully since it probably is significant one way or another. People don't talk at the movies just to exercise their lips. It is nice to see some humour in this sub but MR being what it is, we each project our favourite thoughts on it. I think she's wor…
/r/MensRights25/02/18 03:50 AM
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This is outside my experience except I know the anti-psychotics are known for troublesome side effects, significant weight gain being the most well known. If the risperidone was for anorexia I imagine the docs had grave concerns about the damage from not eating becoming permanent, severe and life threatening. My sister died suddenly in hospital from anorexia, I don't know the details of her care as I hadn't met her since she was four. At least a third of deaths of anorexic patients are from hear…
/r/MensRights25/02/18 03:28 AM
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I don't imagine those relationships which start at work typically start as pick-ups though. I've seen several and been in one with a customer. They developed naturally over time between people who worked closely together. There was no pickup, peoples' lives just gradually merged.
/r/MensRights25/02/18 02:35 AM
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Indeed. If you just enjoy women's company and do stuff together then romance and sex will just develop naturally for most people I reckon.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 12:00 PM
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Asking for their number would feel more desperate to me, it sounds like I'm not confident they will call me but don't accept that would be OK, so want to keep control of the option to call them. I just do it as the last thing before leaving if they haven't asked for my number but I want to see them again. It has been said several times that they appreciated the lack of pressure. I should reveal I can't stand the kind of women who expect to be pursued, so this puts that sort on notice that they h…
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:46 AM
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Presumably the policy makes some men feel unwelcome and they go away. The policy has been in force for several years since one of the students was raped by someone she met at the conversational English meetup.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:28 AM
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You know you could always say no or lie? I don't fucking get it. You come across as someone who does think he understands the situation well enough to form a strong opinion.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:25 AM
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It is good you realise that asking for a girls number when she hasn't shown any interest in you or in further contact will often be regarded as pushy and gross. You could try just handing over a slip of paper with your name & number on it as you depart. If she's enjoyed your company she knows the only way to get more of it is to call you, and she can do that from a blocked number if she wants.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:20 AM
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So stay away. The policy has been in place since a student was raped several years ago, the school must find it works OK for them.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:10 AM
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Dating sites and pickup bars and dating apps are things that exist. This is a conversation meet for students to practice their English and for both parties to learn about each other's culture. Romances are going to happen but I'd imagine they want to weed out the guys who see it as a pickup spot.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:03 AM
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Not damaging to me, but many people on here seem to see it as an insult to them or to men in general. It certainly does reinforce traditional gender roles. That is unfortunate but it seems the school has felt it necessary to acknowledge reality in order to promote safety and comfort in their students. I think the MRM is continuously shooting itself in the foot on this sort of issue. Women will always put their safety first. Men who think they have a right to have their opinions on the safety of …
/r/MensRights23/02/18 05:55 AM
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No, just the ones who think that would be a good way to stop guys turning up.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 03:25 AM
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That is better but it is still asking, even in English. In a culture where requests are always indirect it could be far too forceful. I'd just hand over my own number, then they know they are never going to get a call so have to call themselves if they want.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 12:41 AM
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Giving your own number and not taking theirs displays self confidence, either that they will call you or that your life won't collapse if they don't.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 12:34 AM
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That is probably the kind of guys they are hoping to keep away with the policy.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 12:30 AM
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Why are you posting this here for comment by people with no experience of the situation? Very few of the respondents show the slightest sign of understanding the meetup as anything other than a pickup opportunity, or of understanding the differences between the students and the local girls. Just ask the management of the place why they went to all the trouble of bringing in the rule and putting signs on every table. The guys below wanting to use the situation as a pickup opportunity are one obvi…
/r/MensRights23/02/18 12:28 AM
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I'm broadly in agreement with you, but I'm very confused about the circumstances here. What drug are we talking about? I can't imagine what circumstances would justify administering Ritalin or one of the stimulant ADHD meds forcibly to a calm child. It is hard to see how that could be useful even to an upset one, except possibly as a desperate experiment. In a psych ward forcible administration of medicines is used, but you don't generally get into a psych ward unless your life or limb are at ri…
/r/MensRights23/02/18 12:01 AM
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A doctor is supposed to protect the child not poison them. You make it sound as if there is a clear choice. Sometimes there isn't. Bodies and minds are complex. Unexpected stuff happens, including death.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 11:35 PM
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She was named when she was prosecuted for perverting the course of justice. She had already been judged mentally fit to stand trial. A mental illness is one of many factors which must be taken into account in sentencing. Mental illness is available as a mitigating factor to anybody who can provide evidence of it. Her opportunity to play it as a card directly in court has passed. She may still have some opportunity if the probation service is still in the process of writing an impact report, whic…
/r/MensRights22/02/18 11:31 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss. I know the ache never quite goes away. Many medicines have a very wide range of possible side effects, and death is on the list for many. I don't know what proportion. Increased risk of suicide is definitely a risk to consider when starting SSRIs. So might be the risk of suicide from not using a drug to help. There is no safe ground. The thing is, some cases are desperate. I'm talking to an 11 year old girl who has been suicidal for years. After years her overbearing rel…
/r/MensRights22/02/18 03:06 PM
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Quoting an individual Tumlrina achieves nothing. Who cares? We will still be wanking over that post in a decade I expect, without knowing if it was even written by a real person. It won't matter.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 11:38 AM
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Kids are generally offered ADHD meds, I have not heard of a single instance of them being given forcibly and I have been in a parents' group for ADHD kids and read about it online. I don't open videos that are not labeled to say who they are and what they are saying, because text is much more efficient at conveying info. Also Youtube is awash with people trying to make money out of performing sensationalist crap for fools.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 11:31 AM
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I agree the FBI's definition seems too restrictive. Shooting a number of random people is the defining feature of a mass shooting, I don't see the significance of whether they die or not.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 11:20 AM
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I can't afford psychiatry so I'm safe from it, lol. I have been off all psych meds for nine years. That isn't necessarily smart. I don't like the feel of Ritalin etc but I would take it again if I got a job where I need to think a lot. My boy took if from 6 until 13, it helped a lot at school but he didn't like the feeling and said he'd outgrown the need for it, he just took it for exams after that. I took an SSRI when my boy was living with me because both of us with ADHD was a bad combo, we bo…
/r/MensRights22/02/18 11:18 AM
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I don't think your links make your case adequately. If you are an expert on debating this case then the case is weak. Link 1: The Esquire 2014 ADHD article is good but does not address SSRIs or antipsychotics. It is not OK to present the other two links as evidence to a general audience unlabeled, because very few people read links. Most just assume you have evidence. But you don't, at least not evidence which is authorative or representative of expert thinking which might fairly be expected. Yo…
/r/MensRights22/02/18 07:50 AM
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Yes. Restraint and forcible medication are acceptable medical techniques. Death can be an acceptable side-effect risk, including when the medication was non-consensual.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 04:56 AM
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School shooters have and are exercising extreme self ownership. Their psych med use (outside of hospital) is consensual. Their parents have a lot of self ownership too, which is often involved in the problem. Their freedom to abuse their kids is hard to get past. I talk to troubled, isolated kids a lot. One has had school shooting fantasies, they were quite persistent. Often the most tragic thing in the kids' lives is that they can not be forcibly removed from their parents by the state and hidd…
/r/MensRights22/02/18 04:54 AM
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Are you talking about Argentina? That law did not "allow" mothers to kill their babies.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 04:44 AM
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I had not seen the links. Nearly finished the long Esquire article on ADHD. It is good . I and my boy have ADHD - but not about SSRI. Yes it is over diagnosed a bit in NZ too, but way too much in th US.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 11:09 PM
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How common is it for patients outside of involuntarily hospitalised patients to be forced to take drugs? I have never heard of it and I have been active on our support subs for depression and suicide for three years. I talk to a lot of depressed boys. If SSRI drugs are used by 90% of shooters (source?), why do you think they should not be given? The more affluent kids will have seen therapists, and they all will be more likely to have seen school counselors. Does that make those things bad too?
/r/MensRights21/02/18 10:13 PM
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None of those are mass shootings according to the FBI and CRS definitions, which give 100 % male perps. Who are "you people"? I wonder if you mean these people? There is a website which uses a more literal definition of mass shootings, counting shootings not deaths. By their definition there have been four female mass shootings in the US since 1979 vs. 31 mass shootings in the first seven weeks of this year. I think their definition is more useful than the FBI / CRS one. Do you agree? Anyway, ho…
/r/MensRights21/02/18 08:53 PM
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There is plenty of 'but'. Your assertion is simple-minded bullshit, and you want to wave that around in the hope that all other examples of simple-minded bullshit in the world will ... do what? Evaporate magically? You are just whining, in a confusing way that wastes everybody's time. If you want to claim that men being 62% of gun owners explains why 100% of mass shooters are male, and therefore "feminist" epidemiologists have got it all wrong by characterising mass shooting as a male problem, t…
/r/MensRights21/02/18 07:25 PM
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Proof of such an idea is not going to exist, the dataset is too small and confused. Please don't post a video of some guy on Youtube even if he isn't actually shouting. I'd be interested to see the proportion of boys vs girls on SSRIs at each age. It is not surprising if boys get antipsychotics more often. Our single copy of the X chromosome makes us more prone to genetic malfunctions causing some mental illnesses. Boys be cray, yo.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 07:21 PM
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You're not in a rational discussion now, Dorothy.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 06:51 PM
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You have a bizarre interpretation of "more abusive". The statistics you quote (which are in line with everything else I have seen on this) show that men are inherently far more dangerous to both their natural children and their step-children than women, if you want to make that comparison. Your interpretation gets even more absurd if you consider the first year or two of life separately. Women are vastly more involved there so, duh, guess which sex causes the most deaths? For all of childhood ex…
/r/MensRights21/02/18 06:50 PM
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True I guess.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 09:45 AM
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I wish feminists would learn the difference. They do the occasional article describing a visit to a MRA site but the articles tend to be disappointingly shallow compared to their author's other work. It is very easy to write a OMG hatred!!! article and our open mod policy makes it even easier. Since InCels and MGTOW are lost in misogyny and TRP is sociopathic I'd be happy to see them cast out of the MRM label if that could be achieved.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 12:07 AM
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I meant their mod policy is hyper sensitive. Our users do seem to be rather delicate. I'm disappointed at the downvotes you are getting.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 11:45 PM
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ShitRedditSays, a SJW circlejerk that exists to poke fun at things they find outrageous. It is a counterpart to TiA, SRD and the cringe subs. I can't stand any of them. They are all about in-group virtual signalling, mutual masturbation, self-congratulation, cherry picking, strawmanning and wallowing in hatred. They tend to develop their own obscure culture involving multiple layers of irony so it is hard for an outsider to even know what they are saying some of the time.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 11:38 PM
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Excellent example. Everyone understands some obvious things about life in a wheelchair. But wheelchair users tell us there is a problem with people assuming they understand more than they do, enough to fill an article on Annoying stuff that too many non-wheelchair-users just don't understand. You can understand that being lower than standing people will make some differences, say. You could make the effort to find out from chair users what their life is like, and would hear things that hadn't oc…
/r/MensRights19/02/18 11:16 PM
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Some of the grossest people I've met were all about Facts And Logic. I've found it tends to be an indicator of a deficit in other social skills (especially insight) when people talk about how logical and factual they are. It is very common in autistic people. Just take a peek at InCels for examples, or MGTOW to a lesser extent.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 04:17 AM
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Earth has two suns, that is a fact. Also, in Saudi Arabia women are now allowed to vote and to stand as candidates in municipal elections. So your options are limited if you can't handle sharing the vote with women. You would enjoy the Saudi rules on domestic violence complaints though.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 04:12 AM
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That is largely what MensRights is. Feminism is regarded here as the root of most of men's problems, so this could be called AgainstFeminism. Feminists would translate that to AgainstWomensRights, and call this a hate sub. Which they do.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 04:04 AM
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Most of the MRM subs are hyper-sensitive about criticism, MensRights is an exception. There is strict moderation at MGTOW, TRP, Incels. And The_Donald of course. Free Speech!!!
/r/MensRights19/02/18 04:00 AM
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Did you do the normal thing of doing enough lurking to get a feel for what is acceptable on the sub, and carefully considering the sub's rules before commenting? Failure to do that is a self-inflicted injury. I haven't seen it but from the name it sounds like a hate sub, if so then you kind of have to expect to be hated if you are a member of the target group.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 03:56 AM
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Would it make you feel better if I suggest it is presumably against the sub MensRights, not against men having rights? (I have not been there). It is to be expected that people from here who look at the sub will decide it is not just against this sub but also against men having rights. There is nothing which can be done about that, it is exactly the same as feminists coming here and seeing nothing but misogyny. That's why I almost never recommend visiting this sub to feminists, it isn't going to…
/r/MensRights19/02/18 03:48 AM
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Correct. MR doesn't need many mods because our mod policy is very loose. It is worth thinking about why we can do this, while so many other subs can not. "Because we love free speech and are not scared of opposing views" is not a plausible reason. There is plenty of love for free speech professed on the first four subs, they use the term far more than normal people do. As for bravery in the face of opposing views, most RedPillers are ex SEALs and clean their balls with a wire brush. They ain't s…
/r/MensRights19/02/18 03:23 AM
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You can enter the link at your favourite archive site to find out whether it is already archived and on which dates, which can be handy for things that change like IMDB voting stats. If it is not already archived you can paste in the link and create one. Watch out for extra junk attached to the end of the basic URL e.g. to track where you came from. A "?" character is a sign of extra stuff. Clicking the title of the article from inside the article will usually remove the extra junk. I use archiv…
/r/MensRights19/02/18 01:49 AM
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Sadly there are quite a number of such people who don't realise how big a deal it is to others. Traditionally men are cast in that role but I have no idea how the balance goes in reality.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 07:38 AM
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How is that relevant, unless you have a rare kink and it is a sexual experience for you?
/r/MensRights18/02/18 07:32 AM
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Halelujah, a relevant answer from actual experience. Thanks, that's mighty rare in this thread.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 07:31 AM
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Yes, but that has nothing to do with sex.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 07:16 AM
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Does a gyne exam make a woman not a virgin or teach her anything about sex? You mentioned two non-sexual experiences, they are irrelevant to the subject of sexual experience.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 07:15 AM
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Very sensible. Reading an article like that could turn you gay, and how would you explain that to your GF?
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:52 AM
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No, they are saying it may help you understand the kind of woman for whom being penetrated is an important part of their life. Which is rather a lot of women. NotAllWomen, so what?
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:49 AM
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Of course it would help them understand amputees. What is your point?
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:47 AM
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/AskHistorians seems to get by without it. But I see what you mean. Depressing though. I mean, male fragility does not exist but if it did this sub would have a good fraction of the world's supply. It is hard to get a discussion on anything except how feminism has ruined the world.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:12 AM
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I'm interested to see how much effort has gone into avoiding the question by thinking up different objections to it, rather than engaging with it. Most of the answers could be rephrased as "I don't know enough to answer this because I lack the experience of the guy I am responding to and I have not even read the article, but here is why my lack of experience and ignorance of the article does not matter".
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:46 AM
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FFS, everybody has been discussing a picture of a heading since OP didn't do us the courtesy of providing a link to the article. Maybe people could read it, we might get a more interesting discussion. https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/9abdqv/should-every-man-be-penetrated-at-least-once-in-his-life
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:42 AM
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"Straight, sexually active woman who enjoys penetration" was implied. And of course they don't understand what it is like to be a straight sexually active woman who enjoys penetration, if they have not had that experience.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:17 AM
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A prostate exam is irrelevant in for the same reason as a gyne exam is irrelevant to women, they are very rarely a sexual experience. A few guys have posted that, it looks like avoiding the question to me.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 03:14 AM
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Some of us are women, our host swings between various genders on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. This would obviously narrow the field severely in dating so we have stopped dating outsiders and now only date within our shared head and body. You might think that would make consent easy to manage but it is actually such a frequent source of drama that we are becoming a mixed community of incels.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 01:32 AM
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On a strictly literal level it could be said neither book is telling people to commit crimes. In reality both books advise on how to do illegal behaviour, and both claim their motivation to be fundamentally defensive. I have not read the men's one, I imagine it contains some good sensible defensive advice as well as the more obnoxious stuff. DAMN looks more purely toxic, but then I suspect it is also a false flag that will be purchased, reviewed, discussed and drooled over by MGTOWs; and women w…
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 01:24 AM
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It sure is hateful, I don't know about the formal definition of hate speech. My guess is this is written by either a MGTOW or a PR operator, commissioned by persons unknown but who could plausibly have a bad beard and a cuddly belly. It does not look like something written by an academic, a feminist or a woman unless she is a PR operator.
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 01:15 AM
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There is a somewhat relevant book for men: Screw the Bitch: Divorce Tactics for Men https://www.amazon.com/Screw-Bitch-Divorce-Tactics-Men/dp/1559500697/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 12:42 AM
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What makes you think the person / organisation who commissioned the book, or even the author, is female? There is no evidence for that. The writing style does not suggest an academic background to me. Psy. D. is a Doctor in psychology, a graduate degree for training US therapists. The excerpt looked as if it was written by a MGTOW or MRA. This page is dripping with MGTOW, this does not look anything like something written for women by a woman. http://howtodamn.net/ Conceivably it could be some e…
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 10:32 PM
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You were wrong then, because this didn't exist.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 10:14 PM
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Freeze Peach.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 10:13 PM
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It didn't occur to you that it looks like it was written by a MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 10:13 PM
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My guess is the book was commissioned from a PR group by someone attacking MeToo.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 10:09 PM
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Who is "they"? It is purportedly a single author, though I suspect the book was written to order for an unknown organisation or person.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 09:58 PM
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The excerpt looked as if it were written by a MGTOW or MRA.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 07:55 PM
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Thanks. I like the Guardian for international news but it is quite a lefty circle-jerk. I went off the BBC after the Dodgy Dossier affair, Tony Blair kneecapped and terrrorised the organisation and I've seen no sign they will ever recover from it. Their collusion with the govt over climate change has been despicable, if they can do that then they are so compromised I don't want to do know what else they do.
/r/MensRights17/02/18 02:44 AM
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Meh, it is not worth using those terms usually for non-specialists because few people know what they mean. I just state what it is: "In the US about 2% of reported rapes result in felony conviction".
/r/MensRights16/02/18 10:28 AM
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Playing devil's advocate on the subject of rape will gain you respect in the community and attract new friendships.
/r/MensRights16/02/18 10:06 AM
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Ouch my head is still hurting from the last time I read Drudge, my idea of centre is rather different. Many years ago I used to go to the money - oriented papers for a more right wing view but the quality ones all seem to be locked up now.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 02:30 AM
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I don't know about the truck incident, I have no idea of blame. The kind of incident I'm thinking of is one where there is a wave of public revulsion against the alt-right that becomes permanent, also staining any group which was associated with them. It goes without saying that there would still be some who saw both sides as equally to blame.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 02:05 AM
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If you came from another planet there might be some logic in guessing a 50/50 split, but you would know it was a wild guess based on ignorance of the situation.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 02:00 AM
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I see. So you are not arguing against "signing a contract with the state", you are arguing against cohabiting, and against having children in any arrangement.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 01:57 AM
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How does being married put you at more risk of losing your children?
/r/MensRights15/02/18 01:54 AM
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I don't discriminate against feminists unless they are the pain in the ass types, but bad spelling makes my dick want to hide.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 01:43 AM
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The result depends a lot on how the question is phrased.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 01:40 AM
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No, a girlcott. If they are mean to men don't let them play with your dick. Still, I married a feminist. The feminism part was a mix, not bad on balance.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 01:38 AM
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data-based decision making Engaging with reality instead of just campaign donors? That is wild talk! In the UK they got rid of their minister for science because he got too involved with reality in drug abuse policy. I think the next one was selected for being a global warming denialist or as close to it as could decently be managed. Same in Australia I think, but then they just abandoned the pretense of even having a minister for science.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 09:02 PM
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Yeah I'm a lefty and those are the two US papers I prefer, I recently subbed to NY Times. Can you recommend a free quality US news site that is more right wing? There are a lot of paywalls and I'm broke.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 08:24 PM
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He is being shat on for trying to pretend that social and political reputation is judged using the same standard of proof etc as in a court room, and only doing that because his man is being judged. Otherwise he won't ask for that standard, because it would typically be insane to require court-level evidence in non-court matters. He is being shat on for opportunistically using it to distract from some inconvenient facts. His team lied about not knowing their guy had failed FBI background checks …
/r/MensRights14/02/18 08:02 PM
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That can't be right. Trumpers censored your free speech?
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:38 PM
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I'd guess the opposite. I haven't owned a TV for ten years and I despise the guy.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:36 PM
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It is not a small matter or a "white lie" for the president to tell a series of blatant and stupid lies to the country, making the US the laughing stock of the whole world. It is not a small matter for him to use that stupid kerfuffle to clog the media for days, shutting out the news which should have been published. It is not a small matter for the president to undermine public confidence in the media because they refused to enable his narcissistic fantasy, leaving his supporters prey to flying…
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:31 PM
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And women. Trump prompted the biggest demonstrations in US history by being such a dick about women.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:20 PM
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Yes. I suspect most people would imagine MRAs are Trump supporters, and that is a bad thing. At the moment Trump is despised and ridiculed by all lefties and a portion of right wingers. (And nearly everybody outside the US) Later on, I expect many or most of his supporters will turn on him too. He will be a fully toxic brand. I can tell you for sure that most feminists have little or almost no idea of the relationship between MRA, RedPill, MGTOW, InCels. They put all those groups in the same buc…
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:12 PM
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It isn't. Cops aren't stupid, nor are judges. One of the most fundamental principles police are taught in their training is that normal people jump to conclusions, and cops have to learn how to suppress their natural impulse. If they don't, they will be subject to confirmation bias and will fail to look for opposing evidence. "Listen and believe" did not change that. Detectives still detect. Judges still use judgement. Nearly all allegations still fail to result in conviction. Most don't even re…
/r/MensRights14/02/18 06:51 PM
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It was always inevitable that less strong cases would come up and the movement would lose some of its support the more that happens. I don't think it is bad for the movement for wrongdoing to be revealed in a prominent member. It emphasises one of the key points, that sexual misbehaviour at work is not confined to a tiny number of creeps, it is not uncommon. The fact it is a woman is good, not just to show women can be perps but to illustrate that it is about power, not masculine misbehaviour. T…
/r/MensRights14/02/18 11:58 AM
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Withholding evidence is completely separate to "listen and believe". My guess is it is a response to strong political pressure from the top to produce more convictions, plus underfunding. If you push people hard enough, they give you what you want.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 11:30 AM
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I am familiar with those figures. They do not contradict what I wrote: About 2% of rape complaints to police result in conviction. (US figures. I imagine the UK will be similar, though due to political pressure UK cops have advanced skills in deflecting complainants before they register an official complaint). At least 2/3 of rapes are not reported to police. (US again. The US reporting rate of 30% is based on NCVS and is much higher than other estimates. The UK gives a reporting rate of 12% or …
/r/MensRights13/02/18 05:51 PM
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Yes there is a big difference between two and several. I'm sure some would differ but I see a substantial difference between two and a few, since in a single instance a few would normally be at least three. Good quality false complainants are hard to obtain and each one carries extra risk of being exposed, so three is substantially different to two. Given that the number is exactly two, and you want a comparison, why not say two men? The reason Weinstein went down this time when previous public …
/r/MensRights13/02/18 04:51 AM
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I know injustices and false accusations occur, but only about 2% of rape complaints to police result in conviction. At least 2/3 of rapes are not reported to police, so that is less than one in a hundred rapes that results in conviction. If the complainant's word had the power you suggest it has, why are there not more convictions?
/r/MensRights13/02/18 01:32 AM
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If you read more you could base your opinions on reality not supposition. You could learn whether anyone is suggesting segregation, and if not, what they are suggesting. You could learn whether consideration of differential effects is being driven by a feminist agenda of interfering, empire-building, attention grabbing. Or is it just experts in the fields involved in adaptation doing what they do, working through the details so we can have predictions and plans? Who knows? Not you. Tip: "I stopp…
/r/MensRights13/02/18 01:21 AM
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Same in the US and I imagine other countries. Still, comparing prevalence between different groups is dodgy because they are likely to report things differently. Also prevalence is usually what is measured, not incidence. The breakdown of severity and frequency is needed to make a decent comparison, and I don't think that is done because of the gigantic sample size it would require to pick it up in gays who are about 3-5% of the population.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 08:21 AM
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Good. It isn't women "getting men arrested". People can make complaints about other people, gender is carefully excluded from the law. If police think it warrants charging then they can arrest someone. That is not the complainant "getting them arrested". Evidence of the suspect's own behaviour is what gets them arrested. As has long been established with sexual offences, the complainant's word alone is seldom enough to make an arrest let alone make a prosecution.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 08:10 AM
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Your experience is limited, or else you have not understood what you have seen.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 08:04 AM
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Separate gendered signs is still not OK though. Part of the value of the signs is to show abusers that their behaviour is abusive. Another part is to help others to recognise abuse in their friends' relationships. The other obvious problem with this exclusively male abuser notice is that it produces powerful emotional reactions in some men which will overwhelm their ability to learn from it and apply that learning in their own and their friends' lives. Instead they will seek to interpret the lis…
/r/MensRights12/02/18 08:03 AM
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I'm offended by someone who linked the MRM to a guy who couldn't say a three-word sentence that didn't have four lies in it.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:40 AM
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Feminists didn't invent statistics! Try Wikipedia for an intro to statistical reasoning.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:36 AM
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It would be only fair to stop having pretty paint jobs on the cars too.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:25 AM
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Source? The number I've always seen is that untrained women have about half the upper body strength of men, including grip strength. Add being 5" shorter, lighter, and having arms about 3" shorter and women are at a huge disadvantage physically. Something that surprised me was how often women felt their life was not definitely safe (nearly half) when in the great majority of cases in hindsight they know their BF or whoever was never a realistic threat to their life. The PTSD figures bear out tha…
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:23 AM
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Very true. Would that be a reasonable thing to do though, if the recipient did not think it a big deal or even enjoyed the attention? The gender flip is not valid here I reckon.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:11 AM
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It is currently two linked people, one of whom works for the majority leader. And another allegation of attempted peeny fondling by lobbyist. As I understand it lobbyists report directly to God and are under His guidance and observation at all times. So I'm sure it will continue to be taken seriously, as it has already. Two can be described as a couple, and perhaps the lower bound for a few. It is a long way short of several though.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 02:05 AM
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I think the point is to not contradict the complainant un-necessarily. "Believe the victim" does not mean suspend your critical faculties. It means remember in most circumstances most victims are honest, and it also means don't contradict the victim if you don't need to. She was said to be drunk both times. I've been to fundraisers, they tend to be boozy because the whole idea is to get people to dissolve their normal inhibitions about groping each other's genitals (you need something to attract…
/r/MensRights12/02/18 01:59 AM
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You can see what Garcia says. She carefully does not contradict the complainant. She says she does not remember anything like that and that it does not sound in character for her. Where have you been? MeToo has always had men posting it, right from the early days. Even some of the Hollywood people were men - Crews, Spacey, Feldman. I dunno if any others. But not much on the female perps. Just like women to not be pulling their weight when there's molesting to be done. to the point where they are…
/r/MensRights12/02/18 01:49 AM
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Global warming was recognised as containing gender issues twenty years ago IIRC. You could check the latest IPCC assessment report for the consensus view. It is typically 5 years out of date but it is a very conservative process that creates it so it is useful for an idea of a baseline that all governments can accept.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 01:21 AM
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What a weird post. How could global warming not be gendered in its effects? I have no idea which sex will be more affected but I'm glad to know people are planning ahead for it. They were already starting to think about it 20 years ago when I last followed global climate science. Most people's activities are gendered, and some of those activities are much more affected by global warming than others. If we ever decide to move on from our head-in-the-sand / "you first" strategy and actually do any…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 10:35 PM
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If you can find people who really believe there are no women much worse than the average man, that would be impressive. For you to expend energy on changing their mind is even more impressive. For those rather special people I imagine a bunch of video clips might be an excellent method. Fools say you can prove anything with statistics. People who know both statistics and fools say you can prove anything to a fool with statistics. It isn't true though. A fool might quote some stupid inappropriate…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 09:51 PM
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You are fighting a straw man. That is not the feminist narrative. Feminists acknowledge female offenders. Feminists acknowledge male victims. There are arguments to be had about the relative numbers, and the relative amount of damage, and how it is reported, and in police investigations and arrests and charging and plea bargaining, and in conviction and sentencing, and treatment available to victims, and how they are regarded by society. If you set out into the world waving your facts like a swo…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 09:17 PM
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You have achieved nothing. Nine videos, ninety videos - so what? Would nine hundred videos count for something? I don't know, do the math and get back to me. Wait, I'll do it for you. Nine hundred cases of women doing bad sexual stuff since 2000 say. That is 50 cases per year. One per US state per year. In other words, 900 videos since 2000 would suggest women do ALMOST EXACTLY ZERO sex crimes. So close to zero that the difference does not matter. Here is something to consider: The kind of peopl…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 09:01 PM
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The notice does not "define X as abusive". The heading is "Red flags of an abusive relationship". When you see a red flag you slow down and pay attention to safety. "Does he need to know about your plans and whereabouts at all times because he loves you?" "Is he secretive about his life and expects you to keep secrets too?" If you are familiar with abusive relationships you will recognise all seven of those listed behaviours as familiar danger signs. That doesn't mean each one of them necessaril…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 07:20 PM
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It is sending exactly the right message to women who are being abused, the behaviours listed are very typical of abusive control. The problem is that it pretends the problem is exclusively something men do to women. Spreading that myth is actively harmful to abused men.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 06:46 PM
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I wonder who is downvoting you.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 06:40 PM
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Most of us here can read and write, so if you have something to say it is better to just write it. The garbled title is useful, as is the use of all caps and the spelling mistake in the still shown for the video, and the lack of indication of how long the video is, and especially the lack of a transcript or even a summary. All of these things are great for those of us who have long ago decided that listening to YouTube ranters is a poor investment of time, they reduce the feeling that maybe we a…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 06:17 PM
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[The act] requires state foster care programs to ensure children are prioritized for placement with their relatives Is there any western country where this is not already standard practice established for at least a few decades? The closest I can think of to an exception is Australia's policy of taking at-risk Aboriginal kids from impoverished remote settlements, and sending them far away to be raised in white families. This was done in some form as late as 1970. The dangers of non-family foster…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 05:12 PM
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School and university counselors are not trained to assist with social skills beyond the common mild difficulties many students have. There is social skills training designed for people at various points on the autism spectrum, I have not seen it but it might suit you. There is also training for people with social anxiety. We have a sub /ADHD too. And /Anxiety too of course.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 03:33 PM
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if we put women in charge things would be so much better! If women were in charge there would be no wars!" There was a lot of that sort of crap said with a straight face in the 80s but I haven't heard it much in recent decades and there was no reference to it in this video. The idea of female superiority was only feasible under 2nd wave gender essentialism, which was swept away by the 3rd wave. Since then feminists push for having a mix of genders making decisions.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 02:28 PM
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Ugh, on this issue Trump must be one of the worst people in the world to associate ourselves with. Posting this article directly and severely detracts from our credibility. "Due process". Oh yeah, Trump is famous for his respect for due process. And restrained civil discourse, and generosity of spirit, and kindness to animals, but most of all for his commitment to truth. Trump does the best truths. Below is the end of the article, detailing Trump's respect for due process and careful avoidance o…
/r/MensRights11/02/18 09:07 AM
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Thanks. the biggest factor is a net 3.4% of men disenfranchised for life due to felony convictions. I wonder how many countries do that. here it is just while you are in jail, and the sentences are a lot shorter.
/r/MensRights08/02/18 09:25 AM
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How come 56%? Is it because men in jail or convicted of felonies are not allowed to vote in the US? How does that work, it sounds like a massive disenfranchisement of men. The sex ratio is not that different is it?
/r/MensRights07/02/18 01:33 AM
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Can a hangover produce slurring 12 hours later? She didn't call the ambo then though, it sounds like she left it until the morning of the day after that.
/r/MGTOW06/02/18 08:20 PM
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Emergency responders can not rule out a stroke, they are only capable of doing basic testing for the most obvious signs e.g. unilateral muscular problems. The symptoms of a stroke are extremely varied and can be very subtle. Sudden onset slurring is one of the best known stroke symptoms. Sudden onset physical slowness sounds very neurological too. A lack of insight into his own disability is neurological too, unless he is an extreme case of the tendency to deny medical problems that some men hav…
/r/MGTOW06/02/18 08:13 PM
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Why should women need to "act like one of the guys" to be able to participate fully in their job? How much are you prepared to fake your own beliefs to act like one of the women? I've never worked in a company where it would be acceptable or even thinkable to hold a work social event at a strip club, but in Australia in the 80s heard about it being done.
/r/MensRights06/02/18 11:15 AM
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The penny is not "beginning to drop". Everybody who ever took an interest in this subject has always known this. You don't even need any data for it to be completely obvious, you just have to be familiar with the range of arrangements for child-rearing commonly made in families with children, and the types of careers commonly chosen by women. This was widely recognised by feminists in the 1980s. The people this is news to are Tumblrinas who are too young to consider women with children as actual…
/r/MensRights06/02/18 10:21 AM
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It's not often you descend to such blatant and desperate personal attacks. I hit a sore point, didn't I? Yes. Like most people I'm irritated by explaining my thinking then having it claimed I actually think something else. I'm particularly sensitive about that because I see the damage done by parents and partners who do that kind of thing routinely. I know of one such guy who has a holiday booked soon, but before he leaves he is likely going to find his child dead.
/r/MensRights06/02/18 05:18 AM
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It would still be unequal in favour of men if the SC was filled with 100% women for the next 40 years. How many years was the SC 100% male?
/r/MensRights05/02/18 10:49 AM
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I'm not suggesting it, but what exactly would be the problem with having all nine SC justices female?
/r/MensRights05/02/18 10:40 AM
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Being familiar with reports of both sexual trauma and from children of narcissists, I imagine either or both of two things: An explosion of something like narcissistic rage. Many people have described Weinstein as a narcissist who using his rages to intimidate people. His responses to the accusations are consistent with narcissism. Regardless of threats to her career a narcissistic meltdown is terrifying and could produce the reaction described. But why would a narc restrain themselves from thre…
/r/MensRights05/02/18 10:09 AM
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Nationmaster says Intentional homicides (a wider definition than murder) were 12 per 100k in 2011. Multiply by the population of 144M, = 173,000 intentional homicides a year. That makes the 14k women 8% of total killings, which does not sound silly since at least half of women are killed by their partner.
/r/MensRights05/02/18 09:43 AM
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Reuters tried, and I'm sure they would know the best people to ask. Good statistics are difficult and expensive to produce. I usually look to the US for statistics first, but specific questions often are not satisfactorily answerable despite the generally high quality of statistical research in the US.
/r/MensRights05/02/18 09:09 AM
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Free bleeding was a 4chan hoax. Incest: not promoted by feminists on this planet. Spare me your incontrovertible proof. Cannibalism: Yes we all know that is an obsession of all feminists, thanks for reminding us again. /s Was there some point to promoting an anti abortion choice website here, other than to show you can't recognise humour as such unless it aligns with your own politics?
/r/MensRights05/02/18 07:47 AM
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It was another commenter here who was claiming it was OK to just propose sex to co-workers. Sure, flirting is ambiguous by its nature. But it is a two-way process. If you are not getting encouragement you back off. There is the thing where some women like to give their encouragement at the limit of detectability. Those women are not going to get laid much at work using that strategy because it is too risky for the guys to be persistent in a work environment. What I'm saying is the mating rituals…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 01:35 PM
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My full quote fully supports my point Which was "women aren't that far behind men when it comes to committing domestic violence". Here is the missing quote: A survey of domestic violence data in Australia revealed that 1 in 3 women and 1 in 5 men have experienced at least one incident of violence from a current or former partner since the age of 15. I left that out since it is so weak. It only counts whether there has been even one incident of violence from any partner in a person's lifetime sin…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 01:21 PM
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Yep. If you have not received information from your female workmate that she finds you attractive and is reciprocating your overtures then WTF are you doing asking her to come home for sex, as was suggested earlier? Why would you be doing that at work anyway? If she doesn't even want to go out for a drink with you then suggesting sex while you are at work is just bizarre. Work is not a pickup joint where both parties are attending for the purpose of pickup for casual sex and some bluntness may b…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 11:12 AM
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I agree narcissism is a possibility, especially if she likes having you home and dependent on her. But you should go through the symptom lists in the sidebar on RBN to see if she fits the pattern before posting. Another possibility is mom has paranoid delusions. I've seen this sort of thing arising from the anxiety which always goes with alcoholism. Delusional disorder typically involves anxiety, poor fact-checking (the type of people who jump to conclusions), and confidence in their own judgmen…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 09:33 AM
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That was during a heated argument. “When I came back from the hospital in a neck brace with my knees damaged and a large massive egg on my head and a concussion, I wanted to see the car and I was very upset. Quentin and I had an enormous fight, and I accused him of trying to kill me. And he was very angry at that, I guess understandably, because he didn’t feel he had tried to kill me.”
/r/MensRights04/02/18 08:48 AM
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The Guardian article is just excerpts from the much longer interview by the NY Times, which is well worth reading (and includes video of the car crash). Full original article: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/03/opinion/sunday/this-is-why-uma-thurman-is-angry.html “She thought she could confront him and clear it up, but she took Herman with her and asked Weinstein to meet her in the Savoy bar. The assistants had their own special choreography to lure actresses into the spider’s web and they pr…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 08:29 AM
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Sure, but they don't end up married by one of them walking up to the other and asking if they want to have sex.
/r/MensRights04/02/18 07:54 AM
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The figure is from the Russian interior ministry. It is not a count, it is extrapolated from a survey of a few regions so might not be representative. Given Russia's gigantic alcohol problem and attitude to DV I would expect a high number of partner killings.
/r/MensRights04/02/18 07:19 AM
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Murder can be a small fraction of homicides, depending on how it is defined in law and the evidence required. The difference is about intention and also about advance planning, which is hard to prove. Visiting with aknife is not evidence of planning to use it to kill, it could be just to intimidate.
/r/MensRights04/02/18 07:04 AM
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Murder is very different to homicide in many jurisdictions. It requires planning, so DV killings of women would not usually be convicted as murder. Homicides of women, at least, are not a significant factor in population composition. Russian men have a very high death rate from alcohol-related causes. Intentional homicides were 12 per 100k in 2011. Multiply by the population of 144M, = 173,000 intentional homicides a year. 14,000 women killed by family members (not just husbands) doesn't look si…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 06:48 AM
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Statistics from Russia are inherently dubious. Figures around 14,000 have been reported by the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 2008 and 2013, with references in Wikipedia. Russia and Eastern Europe have the ingredients to have extremely high rates of domestic violence including spousal murders though, that bit is not implausible. Domestic violence has always been downplayed in Russia and the religious conservatives have recently had it downgraded to a misdemeanor if there is no serious injury. F…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 06:21 AM
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Registration is free. It gives access to most content. Registered customers can access one Premium article per week. Premium content is typically more costly to produce, it might be an exclusive investigation for example. Freeloading on the premium content and even bypassing the normal ad revenue can only reduce the amount of actual journalism done. All news organisations have this problem, and practically all of them have responded by cutting their staff of actual trained, experienced journalis…
/r/MensRights04/02/18 04:22 AM
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Between 2010 and 2012, every 10 days a male died as a result of family violence, with a total of 75 over the period, whilst a female died every week. That quote does not support your point. Wikipedia does not give its source that I can see. Anyway it is about victims, not perps. And "Family violence" can mean various irrelevant things depending on the state, as is stated above the quoted sentence. The relevant statistic is the five year average from Australia showing women killing male partners …
/r/MensRights03/02/18 01:47 PM
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I was thinking more of gangs of men robbing patrons in the toilet, or the local gay bar patrons using it as an orgy room since it is more salubrious than the one at the bar, or male drug dealers using it for business, or the owner just happened to have one combo lock spare so he fitted it, or too many women customers found using the lock too tricky and needed staff assistance. Who knows, until you ask? Or you could look at the academic research, people do PhDs in toilet engineering I guess.
/r/MensRights03/02/18 07:56 AM
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A phone call or email to management would be in order before any kind of public complaint. Find out the reason for the policy before reacting.
/r/MensRights03/02/18 03:10 AM
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I was using the same meaning of "quaint" as was famously used by the GW Bush administration when they described the provisions of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners of war as "quaint". It means charmingly old-fashioned. It is used both literally, and as in these two instances as a backhanded disparagement to suggest something is out-dated.
/r/MensRights03/02/18 02:42 AM
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Who was fired? Were the grid girls career positions, or casual temps hired by the busload from model agencies?
/r/MensRights02/02/18 03:32 PM
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Why was she telling me incoherent stories about turning down Courage Street? Was that a metaphor? Was it literal? Who could say? She was not incoherent, though she lost me a couple of times on the first watch. Courage St was introduced as an ambiguous metaphor, a common rhetorical technique. She clarified it up in her response to Colbert: "Really?" McGowan: "I think it really was". Arrests for turning into literal streets have a ticket with the street name and a summary of the offence. So, metap…
/r/MensRights02/02/18 04:05 AM
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I couldn't make out several words but her thinking isn't incoherent. She jumps further than most people. The cacky pants mind and T-Rex suit metaphors will have left some behind. Stimulants certainly crossed my mind but some people are just like that. I wonder if a tiny cut in the audio has been made at 2:23, a word or less. It is indistinguishable to me anyway.
/r/MensRights02/02/18 03:52 AM
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True, but enforcing the 51% standard of proof in high-stakes campus hearings that were effectively trials was causing problems which any govt would have had to face. Maybe not by rescinding the whole Dear Colleague letter, but something needed to be done.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 10:32 PM
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Sounds like she's been huffing helium too. OP and Weinstein both misunderestimated her. She was born into the Children of God cult, later rebranded The Family. I read the sample of her autobiography up to age five, by which time it is apparent why she, out of a hundred women, would be one of the first to publicly attack Weinstein and kick off MeToo. It is an interesting read: https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=0NfWDgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false . The Children of God cult angle…
/r/MensRights01/02/18 05:00 PM
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Either way it is unacceptable. I don't see how the university can justify allowing her to stay.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 01:17 PM
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Why would it? He wasn't "cleared" of the accusations. The report was a whitewash / asscovering exercise limited to a singe TV series. His major accusations related to the Rocky Horror stage show. The TV company hired an "independent" consultant to tell them they had done no wrong, patch up the reputation of their irreplaceable golden goose, and diffuse blame into unspecified alleged procedural improvements.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 01:09 PM
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There will be a professional registration board for social workers, which can deny or remove accreditation on grounds of good character etc. But how would you look to that board? The granting of the DVO will look to be in her favour not yours.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 01:02 PM
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Why can't she just be sued for libel by some of the men in a civil court? To escape liability she would have to prove at the 51% level that the claims were true. Presumably some of the men can't do that because it will expose genuine misbehaviour to the world and invite other complainants to speak up, but there must be at least one guy on the list who knows his allegation will not hold water and who is confident there are no other skeletons going to come out.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 12:53 PM
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That would be fine for considering some non-gendered subject. But since the event in question involved one man and one woman, an even split is representative.
/r/MensRights01/02/18 12:28 PM
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None of it matters compared to his support for extracting fossil fuels and destruction of attempts to restrain global warming. The economy is a very small subset of the environment.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 08:27 PM
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We could add a tiny blue dot less than 1% of the area of the pink ribbon, to proportionately represent male deaths from breast cancer. I think the best we can achieve by raising this publicly is to make the MRM look ridiculous. But contemptible is very much an option.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 07:39 PM
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At least one of our universities here has split up one of the on-campus accommodation blocks to make one or more pairs of whole floors which are single sex. I think originally it was to cater for students from India and Muslim countries where men and women can't live together, but they take anyone who prefers single sex accommodation. So that is a start.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 12:20 PM
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Getting tortured for a week or so and killed kinda eclipses that I feel. And there wasn't a straight victim to test whether he got special treatment. Still, Snopes didn't make a big deal of it, just pointed out there was no evidence it was a factor in the decision to kidnap him.
/r/MensRights30/01/18 12:30 AM
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Be prepared to be regarded with suspicion, depending where you are. On our mental health support subs it is a reliable sign that someone is just there to push their politics without regard for who gets hurt.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 10:35 PM
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People who like Trump hate all reality-based media, it impedes his ability to free-associate and get believed. Snopes and Politifact are reflexively denigrated. The smear does not need to be true because few people follow links to check. It is the same as the "Wikipedia, LOL" reflex that every single Nazi has. Sorry I didn't check with each one so let me know if you ever find an exception.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 10:30 PM
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Global warming denialism is a hard nope for me, those assholes need to be ostracised. You can't debate them.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 10:22 PM
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Thanks, that makes sense. It is sad that the people who talk most about free speech are often such a poor advertisement for it.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 07:20 PM
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Watson ... used to discuss conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, the New World Order and the Illuminati before switching to material against feminism, Islam, and left-wing politics.[12] In an interview, Watson recalled, "I've talked about some quite fruity things in the past in my younger days, in terms of conspiracy theories. We don't all believe what we believed ten years ago."
/r/MensRights29/01/18 07:12 PM
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I read two of Kitzinger's books on childbirth. Her first one was deservedly popular. As I wrote, the second was a populist attack on medical practice. I'm sure it will have caused many tragedies to mothers and babies. The article did not find any support for the idea of male surgeons colluding with men to put in an extra stitch for the benefit of the male team other than in Kitzinger's story. I seem to remember it being mentioned in The Godfather but that was written in 1968. I find it weird tha…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 06:50 PM
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She got 25 years to life as an accessory to murder, and served 27 years. I can't understand why US sentences are so long. Minimum sentence for murder in NZ is "life" i.e. 10 years before parole, or 17 for bad cases e.g. cops, witnesses, extra cruelty, extensive planning, or for money. Those sentences are obviously long enough to discourage murder, discourage recidivism and keep dangerous people off the streets, because like the rest of the western world we have a fifth of the US's intentional ho…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 06:00 PM
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Her sentence was not seen as lenient. I'm not sure if this is the detective or the judge's secretary, in the article: “These girls had all these unrealistic ambitions — to get into showbiz. I really felt those three were separate and apart from the true malefactors in the case, who were Woodie, Selma [Price], and Miranda. But the judge didn’t cut anybody any slack. He’s usually a maximum sentencer to begin with, and this case had some notoriety.”
/r/MensRights29/01/18 04:32 PM
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Snopes did not "conclude it is fake news". Their article confirms her involvement in the murder and jail sentence, and that the victim was homosexual. It gives surrounding details. Snopes' only point in disagreement with the photo is a very small part of the article. The victim was a con artist said to have cheated one of the killers out of $130k. Retrieving the money from him via kidnap was the obvious motivation, but the photo maker chose not to mention that, describing him as "a 60 year old h…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 04:17 PM
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Touching isn't rape, in all jurisdictions I know about. The definition always involves penetration. What by, varies.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:40 PM
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The military are under strong political pressure to do something about their poor record on sexual abuse. That extends to the Coast Guard, and it appears their solution was outrageous jury stacking. Five of the seven jurors were women. Three or four would be fair. Victim advocates for rape have the advantage of vastly superior understanding of the subject but they are often very biased. They commonly have been raped themselves, cool impartiality is not their natural mode on that subject. That is…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:29 PM
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Congratulations! This made me smile. I had a feminist wife, it was seldom a problem. Of course she sometimes imposed feminist stereotypes on me but everyone uses the prejudices they have grown up with. She was a loving mother to our son and our differences over childrearing did not relate to feminism. I don't think there would have been a problem if she had lived to see him through dating etc. It is common for couples to have different political views, sometimes markedly so. I can see it being m…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 02:51 PM
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We are arguing at cross purposes. Below are two more quotes from the article referring to the existence of the stitch in the real world. I think you are proposing a definition of the stitch different to that used and quoted in the article. Your definition is of a standalone procedure unconnected to repair of a tear or episotomy, is that right? . I remember Shiela Kitzinger. She wrote a very popular book on childbirth, my wife and I found it useful. Then she wrote a second book where she went cra…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 01:36 PM
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I came across InfoWars years ago due to a passing interest in conspiracists that came from having a relative with paranoid delusions arising from chronic alcoholism. People into UFOs / mind control / chemtrails / antivax seemed to be a type. It fills me with WTF that anybody could claim InfoWars an establishment or proper journalism site. Yet they do, it seems.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 04:33 AM
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As per MensRights standards, the headline badly misrepresents the article. All below is from the tail of the article, which is worth reading entirely. . ... is clear that what was once very real and flawed procedure has evolved into something more mythical today, blurring the lines between fact and fiction. Many women who give birth, especially for the first time, will require some stitching whether they have an episiotomy or not, to limit incontinence. And many, perhaps due to message boards an…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 04:17 AM
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Vets at one time sometimes did vasectomies on male cats at owners request. Most now consider this unethical because they don't grow like the neutered males, and keep getting beaten up.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:53 AM
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At that time homosexuality was classified as a mental illness and a hidden crime. People thought of young men as victims needing protection from older men, not as autonomously in control of their own sexuality. Also, remember feminism was not initially hospitable to lesbians, their interests were not considered much until they did a big protest at a conference. It is well known in the history if you want to check the dates.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:50 AM
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Should the MRM push for a return to the values of older than 150 years ago and for the age of consent to be reduced to puberty then? Say 13, for the sake of legal clarity and for extra safety in pregnancy.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:39 AM
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HPV isn't nearly such a problem for straight men because the cancers it causes are either benign or detectable and treatable early. That is why boys were left out, they figured it would not matter much that there would still be a bit of HPV floating around in the male population if the risk of cervical and uterine cancer had been averted. As I understand it the problem is that immunocompromised gay guys can get anal cancer (I guess it is related to the boundary of tissue types as with the cervix…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:31 AM
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What did she mean by that? If she meant that compared to IWD it has little existence other than as a date on the calendar, I guess she's right. I've seen some good stuff done for IMD but it quite a small event.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 09:56 PM
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True pedos (i.e. pre puberty target) have very different patterns by gender. They have in the past been imagined to be almost exclusively men. The truth behind that is that those who attack strangers in public are almost exclusively men working alone, or occasionally with another male pedo or a dependent female lure. I'm sure there are cases where the female accomplice was also motivated by her own direct desire for the child but the usual pattern is she is co-dependent and is helping her partne…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 09:49 PM
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And of people understanding that 11-14 year olds are not emotionally mature enough to be entering into sexual relationships with older men. The fully open age of consent is 16 or 18 in most countries I think. Yes it is common for men to feel a sexual attraction to post-puberty girls. But showing even the subtlest hint of that is generally understood to be harmful to girls by civilised men. It is certainly understood by girls. Ask some 60 year old women to think back 45 years and more to when the…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 07:47 AM
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In some countries dog breeding societies banned the showing of dogs with ears and tails cut, and customs banned imports of cut animals too I think. It worked fine, people stopped cutting their own dogs. We could do the same, ban cut guys from entering the porn industry. Monkey see, monkey do. Hell, I wonder if parents will start cutting their kids outside the US because of US porn? That happened with shaving in youngsters in the mid to late 90s around the western world, it suddenly became compul…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 07:20 AM
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Gay boys particularly need it, and the only way to reliably get to them in time is to vaccinate all boys. Making it available discreetly to boys who select it would be better than nothing. That would require giving consent forms to all parents and advising them to just sign them regardless since X% of gay kids start sex before coming out to their parents. To do it without parental consent would not be legally feasible without a law change at 12, but after 14 or so many jurisdictions allow doctor…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 07:08 AM
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Come to think of it, in the 3 years I've been on Reddit I spend a lot of time supporting the children of narcissist parents, which have a noticeable excess of mothers over fathers. I assure you I make no excuses for these monsters, I advise the kids to get away and set secure boundaries. In practice that can require walking away from college fees, support and any hope of an inheritance. It quite often ends up being No Contact, whatsoever, ever again. If they can attract the other siblings away f…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 06:28 AM
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Nobody who has anything to do with this stuff says that women never lie about rape. If you read Tumblr then you deserve what you get. There's perfectly good porn there, you have no excuse for stalking 14 year old airhead feminists.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 03:58 AM
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Your prediction is noted. Let us know when it starts happening.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 03:48 AM
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I'd imagine every UK news site would cover it.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 03:45 AM
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I don't imagine it would ever be safe to give a person like this access to vulnerable children or elderly people again. They are not going to be open enough that a therapist will know what they are thinking. Apart from that I guess they would be safe to let out on a long, controlled parole after punishment has been served. At a guess their illness will involve psychopathic traits and / or narcissism, neither of which are curable or even treatable much. Anxiety and perhaps delusional disorder is …
/r/MensRights28/01/18 03:28 AM
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Are you withdrawing "sadism"? I suspect "torture" does not stand up to examination either. Think about what you are saying.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 03:05 AM
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That's an impressively vigorous imagination you have there. Over the last 30 years that I've taken an interest in this topic (including 16 years married to a child protection social worker and hanging out with others in that field) my entire experience, reading and all conversations I've ever had in the subject of mental health and children have had the starting point that the interests of the child take top priority at all times. How well do you know feminists who work with children with mental…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 02:57 AM
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We have seen UK police respond badly to political pressure before, with their manipulation of statistics by abuse of the no crime category and by blowing off obviously genuine complainants to keep them from reporting. I wonder if political pressure on police to produce more convictions for rape was behind some of the abuses.
/r/MensRights27/01/18 10:44 AM
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Good. Police withholding of evidence beneficial to the defense appears to have got out of control, a review of all cases is needed. It seems to be partly a resourcing issue since one of the cases took two years to get to trial. Justice delayed is unacceptable in cases involving rape allegations, both for the complainant and defendant.
/r/MensRights27/01/18 10:40 AM
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The death rate in this sort of thing is thought to be 6-10% just during childhood, and victims may go on to display Munchausen's themself or even by proxy. That is apart from the normal problems victims of psychological abuse face. I'd guess they would be on a par with victims of narcissistic or chronic sexual abuse, which will give them a high death rate from suicide later. It might even be a form of narcissistic abuse at a guess. But what more serious charges could apply?
/r/MensRights27/01/18 10:17 AM
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Your information may be out of date. My understanding is that sudden, complete and preferably permanent separation from the parent would be the normal treatment method for this kind of abuse, given that the abuse is often primarily psychological. It is difficult for two people whose relationship has become so abusive to ever develop healthy boundaries. Courts, like child protection experts, have moved to an objective assessment of the damage done rather than trying to work out the processes behi…
/r/MensRights27/01/18 09:52 AM
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If you are took this part of the heading seriously, you are unwise: Mom only charged with 'injury to a child' because she has a syndrome that forces her to seek attention The word "because" is the warning you are at the mercy of OP's interpretation of the story, which they may not have read or understood well. Like all subs containing severely disaffected people MensRights is very prone to bullshit headlines misrepresenting the story. There is nothing in the article to reveal the prosecutor's re…
/r/MensRights27/01/18 09:32 AM
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There were multiple judges. They are not medical experts, if treatment is supplied and paid for by medical insurance then they will assume it is needed unless the husband could present qualified medical evidence to the contrary. That would be difficult since he had no authority to get a second opinion, if she was the sole carer. There might be a back story here about the hospital's acquiescence in giving un-necessary treatment. This is not just a medical ethics problem, it may also be collusion …
/r/MensRights27/01/18 07:36 AM
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Sex tip for beginners: if someone cries after sex it may have gone extremely well, but more commonly it went very badly. If they also leave the room, very very badly. If they also run out of the room, very very very badly. So it seems, that is what happened in the room.
/r/MensRights27/01/18 06:07 AM
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Threats were not mentioned beyond the obvious implicit threat of being fired and blacklisted. So not technically rape under US laws so far as I know. Sexual harassment, certainly. His HR dept seemed to think so anyway, after the woman's supervisor got wind of it, investigated and presented it to HR. In common usage force applied to accomplish a rape may not be limited to physical threats. The implied threat to suddenly end someone's employability at his chain of casinos, fire them and give a bad…
/r/MensRights27/01/18 06:05 AM
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The allegations are not of regret sex, they are that over decades he used his power as casino mogul to intimidate staff who would not normally touch him with a disinfected barge pole, into letting him do sex stuff to them. That isn't legal rape in US jurisdictions so far as I know, but it is not something that would have been acceptable in senior staff of the Republican National Committee either, before the US moved into a parallel universe where normal morality doesn't apply any more and facts …
/r/MensRights27/01/18 05:44 AM
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The original article is linked below. It is alleged the guy has a decades-long history of coercing his employees into sex. Since his position in the Republican National Committee is in question, the precise laws of the state he was in are of less relevance than the common understanding of sexual impropriety. I don't think the word "rape" is justified. The specific allegation doesn't reach the legal description of rape in most US jurisdictions - no force was used, and the implied threats would be…
/r/MensRights27/01/18 05:37 AM
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This isn't my specialty but the idea of white privilege used by young SJWs was mostly in place in the late 1980s so far as I know, I can't think what has changed since then. OJ was 1994. As for being oppressed in all circumstances, I haven't seen a single comment anywhere about Ansari being oppressed or disadvantaged by anybody, and I must have read a lot about the case by raving fuckwits of various kinds. OJ didn't have lots of accusers in earlier years. I don't know his politics, he was popula…
/r/MensRights27/01/18 04:03 AM
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I have only seen three people mention race or culture in the several comment sections I've read. Two were MRAs imagining being brown or Indian makes Ansari untouchable by feminists. One was someone claiming India's traditional attitudes to sexual relations are a factor. Ansari is not just fully competent, he is an expert in western dating culture - he wrote a well-regarded book on it and a much-loved TV show in which I'm told he shows a fine appreciation of sexual consent issues. There are times…
/r/MensRights27/01/18 02:16 AM
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I don't think Way has been given a pass at all. Her outburst has not been given the prominence it would if it had been by a man though. Criticising someone's appearance as if relevant to their work is frowned upon in SJWism for reasons which apply to both men and women victims, but not necessarily equally. Banfield's complaint in the clip is based on that, since complaining about a breach of good manners or professional respect and decorum is thought to be laughably quaint by so many of the publ…
/r/MensRights26/01/18 09:06 AM
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She explicitly does not call for genocide of men. She suggests restricting the % of men born to 10%. It would take about 80 years for the whole population ratio to slowly fall to 10%. Very crazy, and ideas are not thought through at all. It is just expressions of man hating from what I can see at a glance.
/r/MensRights26/01/18 08:35 AM
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Of course it is complicated. How can you think damage is the same as the objective physical event? They are very loosely related, mediated by the internal circumstances of the victim/beneficiary. Exactly the same touch on someone else could be not really a problem, or quite nice, or an extremely welcome surprise.
/r/MensRights26/01/18 08:28 AM
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Data enabling a comparison between sexes could only come from surveying adults about their history, there is no way usable data could come from children or any other source. Men and women answer questions differently and it is very possible there is a difference in this subject. Men might recall incidents as not worthy of mention. That doesn't mean there is a big hidden problem though, so long as everyone is correct about whether or not it was a problem for them. The figures presented in the pho…
/r/MensRights25/01/18 09:43 AM
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Most still thought the allegations were credible and make Ansari look hypocritical.
/r/MensRights25/01/18 09:33 AM
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"The Future is Female" is a S.C.U.M. feminist slogan referring to the time after the 'gendercide' of 90+% of the male population Source? The WaPo researched the phrase and got back to it being used on a T shirt in 1975, eight years later. The shirt was worn by a lesbian separatist, which may or may not be significant. Rad Les Fem Seps had a moment in the spotlight in feminism of the 1970s and early 80s maybe, but that is a long while back.
/r/MensRights25/01/18 04:33 AM
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LOL. In happy news voice interfaces sort of happened, even if 20 years after the expected date.
/r/MensRights25/01/18 03:59 AM
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Banfield is not doing any of that. In the clip below she counters the 22yo gossip writer Way's claim she irrelevant by referring to her distinguished career as a serious journalist, and rips Way for bringing the appearance of male or female journalists into the discussion. My guess is Way is not necessarily an air-head, she's just an asshole kid who sees Trump's antics and figures that is how to get ahead in the populist press. OP's premise is that criticism of a woman's appearance should be tre…
/r/MensRights25/01/18 03:39 AM
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That is not what I've seen. There was a big thread on exactly that question on AskWomen, I think. [Edit: I couldn't find it on AskWomen. I'd read a related thread on AskMenOver30] I've seen other feminist discussions. Consensus was that Katie Way is an unprofessional air-head, out of her depth with this story, and that her bizarre public personal bitch-attack on Ashleigh Banfield underscored that. Most still thought the allegations were credible and make Ansari look hypocritical. From memory qui…
/r/MensRights25/01/18 03:30 AM
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Could be, if they are faking concern for women. But the payoff for an individual psychopath doing so is not worth the effort, which suggests it is genuine. The simplest and commonest explanation is that defensive anxiety, likely from trauma, is overwhelming the ability to feel empathy or anything but hatred for the other sex. A thousand upvotes, if they are all genuine, is not a surprising number. How many high schools are there in the US alone? How many girls are there that badly damaged in eac…
/r/MensRights25/01/18 03:09 AM
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Why does it matter how many men have been groped? If you want raw numbers to compare to women's numbers, that is the sort of bullshit that makes MRAs so despised by normies. What matters is what benefit or damage was done. I've been catcalled, groped and raped twice by women, insofar as there was deception about what was consented to. I've seen men terribly hurt by women but for me these were all positive experiences. If your intentions are honest you need to ask what damage has been experienced…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 11:27 PM
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Pre-puberty, quite a lot of the sexual abuse of children is to boys. During and after puberty the incidence of sexual abuse increases hugely (most people are not sexually interested in pre-puberty kids) and the great majority of the abuse is to girls.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 11:14 PM
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He/she is not a psychopath, they lack the ability to empathise with anybody. If it is selective then it is something else. I'd pick it is a woman, you can see the same kind of thinking on MGTOW and TRP. Or it could be a shill for a political operator attacking feminism or the US.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 10:48 PM
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I'd pick PTSD or an anxiety disorder in the author. Or it is a political operator attacking feminists or the whole USA.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 10:42 PM
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By reposting this crap MensRights is working for political actors and random crazy nobodies. It could be fake by a right wing shill of some kind. I think it likely it is genuine, from someone obsessed and overwhelmed by hatred. You can see the same thing on MGTOW, TRP, Incels regarding women, and often in MensRights regarding feminists. The cues are black and white thinking, wild exaggeration, mind-reading, denial of exceptions or alternative motivations. These are signs of profound emotional di…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 10:37 PM
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Koss does not say men are incapable of emotions like remorse and generosity. She says men experience rape by women differently to the reverse. Which isn't exactly news, if you know the worlds of PTSD and suicide. Her solution to the problem of how to present the statistics erases most rape of men by women. The alternative was to classify "made to penetrate" in with rape, which would make men raped by women 40% of rape victims. Her reasoning is that is a technicality which would misrepresent the …
/r/MensRights24/01/18 10:18 PM
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Final two posts, 7 months ago: Me: I mean...You know. It didn't work. Therapist: I'm glad it didn't. Me: ... So what I wanted to say there was: Why are you glad? I'm not glad. I can give you reasons why I'm not happy, or don't find my life worth living anymore. I can tell you about dating exactly two men in my life and being raped by both of them. I can tell you about spending years and years trying to fight against depression and anxiety and PTSD and other fun difficulties of the mind. I can te…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 10:09 AM
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"Rape is about power not sex" is very widely repeated by people who don't understand it. It does not always mean the motivation is not sexual. One meaning is that the crucial difference between a rape happening or not is not the presence of a horny guy, since those are very common. The crucial ingredient for a rape is a pathological attitude to power. It might be an active motivator, or it might just be an enabler. Rapists are often not sex starved. They may have a regular partner, they often ar…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 09:19 AM
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It sucked, but as you say you were not traumatised because you did not feel out of control. Your options were not good, but they existed.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 09:10 AM
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"A fate worse than death" comes from Victorian times I'd think, if not before.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 09:00 AM
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I can't follow your logic but I am in touch with raped people most days, overwhelmingly they are female. Not that men don't get raped, but the things that bring men to our suicide and mental health subs is very seldom rape as adults by women unless that is part of an overwhelmingly abusive relationship. Our suicide sub has 2,300 hits for "raped". That suggests immense harm to me, especially when you consider we have a collection of specialist subs for rape. Also TwoX, AskWomen, and subs for anxi…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 08:54 AM
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Four boys abused in the 1980s just put their abuser in jail. Another one had killed himself. An earlier report to police went nowhere. From Armidale, Australia. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11981177
/r/MensRights24/01/18 07:50 AM
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I see plenty of loving young couples. They seem to be nice people. Most of the guys don't seem to be doing any stud stuff, it is just humans doing what humans have always done, falling in love. Many of them don't recognise terms like MRA and redpill, and know little about feminism either. There is a whole wide world of people who are not interested in gender politics, they just do their thing. What shocks me most about modern couples is how often neither of them can cook without following a reci…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 04:48 AM
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Yes, there certainly are a bunch of technical rapes that don't cause a problem, but I don't see any useful reason to dilute a discussion of the harm from rape by pulling in things that were not a problem. A friend pointed out to me once that I'd been raped twice 30 years ago. I hadn't even noticed. Someone else could get really bent over it but I don't care at all. I would be a jerk to mention those in a "men get raped too" way. Similarly, I often see guys on here avoiding what could be a useful…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 04:42 AM
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I agree, I'd like to see a lot more men posting. But we know there are female abusers so it would be nice if an example of that were to come to light as well.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 02:46 AM
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There are quite a lot of male victims on this sub, both of men and women. They are in varying states of mental health, with shortage of treatment options being at least partly to blame for that. There is plenty of distress evident.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 02:00 AM
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Your personality and constitution enabled you to move on relatively easily. Another man could have been wrecked by the exact same attack. Military psychologists have done a lot of work on trying to predict people's risk of PTSD and to detect its onset, with little success. People with an anxious disposition are somewhat more vulnerable, unsurprisingly. There is a lot of apparent randomness. I have seen the estimate that women are twice as likely to get PTSD as men. And that about a third of rape…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 01:54 AM
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Your ideas about alcohol have no relation to the law, nor do they fit the practice of major surveys, which I have studied. Incapacitated by alcohol enough to void consent is a very high standard. To consent you must know where you are, who you are with, what kind of activity you are consenting to, and you must be able to communicate in some way. That is about it. The law does not try to protect you from the fact you may do stupid, wildly out of character stuff when you are very drunk. In UK and …
/r/MensRights24/01/18 12:47 AM
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You don't know the male perspective as well as you think. That sounds like RedPill stuff. I'm a man, I wanted a life partner to raise a family with, and I chose a whole crowd of men's "used goods". My wife and I met in our late 30s. She mentioned she had been very promiscuous in her youth, and slowed down to a normal sort of turnover in the last decade. A couple of her friends had the hots for her, and my best friend too. Her last lover remained a close friend and helped carry her coffin when sh…
/r/MensRights24/01/18 12:21 AM
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I agree publicising the story about Ansari was unfair. I'd guess his dick gets around town a fair bit and if he has a serious problem then it shouldn't be hard to find a few others to back up the story. If they can't be found then a single source is not enough to hang a story this damaging on. "Grace" had been shopping her story around for some time, which is why someone said earlier Ansari will be next to go down. No reputable news site would touch it, and in the end Babe took it. The Babe writ…
/r/MensRights23/01/18 11:31 PM
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I might be misunderstanding what you mean by stud. Most women like men with some social skills, not crippled by shyness, not overweight. At university age many will still be happy to use fuckboys. I'm curious about your class composition. Why such a shortage of childless straight women? And why were the mothers single?
/r/MensRights23/01/18 11:14 PM
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WTF? Most guys don't do the stud thing and get on fine. A lot of women can't stand studs.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 10:47 PM
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For a law - oriented survey the Bureau of Justice Statistics does NCVS - National Criminal Victimisation Survey. Health - oriented surveys: NVAWS collects statistics on men and women equally, despite the title. NISVS - National Intimate partner and Sexual Violence Survey is the other big one. The above two are health-oriented.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 10:39 PM
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It would be great to see some women being accused, but the two accused photographers here are famous men. At least one dominates the industry so it would not be feasible to not work with him. Attaching an accusation to MeToo gives it far more prominence.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 10:32 PM
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"Could care less" is an acceptable alternative in the US. Weird, but you can't argue with usage once it is that well established.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 10:23 PM
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"Snopes is trash" is a rock solid indicator of a right wing fake news follower who doesn't like to see Infowars or Pizzagate or the Bowling Green massacre or global warming denialists referred to as fake. I have had occasion to use Snopes a lot, for many years. I can smell bullshit pretty well but Snopes does a great job of presenting the evidence for it, so I just find the bullshit in Snopes then send a link to the person rather than wasting time trying to explain. The easy way is to paste some…
/r/MensRights23/01/18 10:20 PM
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If you reflexively lump all sexual misbehaviour into "rape" or "miscommunication" depending on whether it suits your purpose to exaggerate or dismiss it, you're a pretty typical MRA unfortunately. She taught her kids about sexual consent, hoping to avoid them causing someone a MeToo moment. If you think MeToo is just about rape or even just about sexual assault then you should seek information from outside the MRA bubble. If you think kids all turn up to their early sexual experiences with a goo…
/r/MensRights23/01/18 08:12 PM
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I don't understand. Where do you think sexual miscreants come from? They are not a separate species. For your sprinkler analogy, she isn't claiming the house will never catch fire. One of the main purposes of MeToo is to point out to that half of the world that somehow had not noticed it, that sexual misbehaviour is NOT rare, many women experience it to a degree great enough to be a big problem to them. It isn't just a tiny % of incorrigible crazed psychopaths grabbing women off the street. It i…
/r/MensRights23/01/18 05:35 PM
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The line "PRHS says" claims the school stands behind this picture. Is that true? Is it a poster sanctioned by the school, or is it an individual or group painting?
/r/MensRights23/01/18 01:43 PM
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This pic was posted here a few months ago I think (I have no sense of time). Someone in that thread knew the school and the story, I don't recall it. It looks like an individual or group project in art, graphic design or something.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 01:30 PM
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She acknowledged her sons potentially could cause someone a MeToo movement. That is just facing reality honestly, it is ridiculous to read it as an accusation. OP has mis-interpreted "a MeToo moment" to mean "rape". Added to the previous exaggeration we are now at an unseemly level of hysteria. My impression is more than half of MeToos I've seen do not specify the behaviour at all. People who have given details mention a range of sex / power related misbehaviour. Weinstein is an example. A pile …
/r/MensRights23/01/18 01:20 PM
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It could be a shill for the meat industry doing a sneaky insertion of a "eat meat or go impotent" message. Not that any industry body ever does anything like that. Typical of MensRights to get its balls in a knot over a troll/shill comment awarded 300 downvotes by AskReddit, as if it were evidence of "feminists" wanting to cut our dicks off.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 03:03 AM
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I haven't read much on this but I didn't see anyone call it rape. There was someone talking generally about women defining things as "bad sex" when they could also be defined as sexual assault, and why that is done.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 07:49 AM
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True. Is there a problem with that? Australia, for some reason, preferred to prescribe dexamphetamine as a first line treatment, with Ritalin if that didn't work. I don't know if they still do.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 07:18 AM
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I have not heard of people with ADHD getting addicted to stimulant meds. Normies can get addicted, I don't know whether that would happen with normal doses. I never had any withdrawals and I didn't take them in weekends usually. Your zombie-ism is the classic overdose symptom. It should have been reported to your doc and your dose adjusted. My boy was like that sometimes on the standard dose so I used to cut his pills down to various fractions to suit him as he grew. I often cut mine too. Doctor…
/r/MensRights21/01/18 07:15 AM
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Re: "ADHD pills =meth". Yes, more or less. So what? My boy started on a very low dose of Ritalin (methylphenidate) at five, since the recommended dose gave him the common zombie-like overdose symptom. The doc thought it was such a low dose it would have no effect by the afternoon. I did a blind trial alternating dosed and undosed for four weeks. The teacher rated his attention etc every morning and afternoon. The result was strong. With Ritalin in the morning, not just his morning but also his a…
/r/MensRights21/01/18 07:04 AM
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For some guys a boner would be a good advert for steak. We had a big expensive campaign here a few years back, like Beef: feel good! It was pushing the idea that eating meat improves your mood. It would if you had low iron but that is uncommon in this country except in some vegetarians, who are too rare to be the target market. It was pushing for extra red meat consumption in a population with no iron problem and a big heart disease problem.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:57 AM
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It sounds like a troll, a fetishist or a shill for the meat industry.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:40 AM
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The guy is probably a woman in the Philippines who works in a building with 100 others, shilling for the Beef Producer's Secret Brotherhood and whoever else needs their services.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:38 AM
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Your 1 in 3 or 4 figure does not apply to rape at university. Those sort of numbers have been obtained in multiple surveys of sexual assault and harassment, defined very broadly. If you see them being quoted in relation to rape then you should reconsider where you hang out. Their definition of sexual harassment or sexual misconduct is too broad. I guess the creation of the list of behaviours surveyed would have involved first asking women what behaviours were a problem for them. It is a broad de…
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:26 AM
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I read the custody judgement. Ugh what a mess. MF looks a whole lot better in the judgement than WA, but that is normal for narcissists. The money complicates things, it is hard to trust witnesses exposed to that level of financial pressure. It is bad enough with affluent professionals, but worse with people like nannies who don't expect to ever have much money. Still, unless Moses is flat out lying then Mia is a narcissist of some type and nothing said by her or anyone under her control can be …
/r/MensRights20/01/18 10:25 PM
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Manipulative suicide threats do happen but I think they would nearly all be exaggerations, not made up out of nothing. It is an extremely powerful thing to say so it is open to abuse. Usually it would be less conscious abuse and more the self-centredness which naturally comes with depression and anxiety.
/r/MensRights20/01/18 08:28 AM
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The US has the population to justify the expense of large high quality surveys, they do a lot of good work. I can't think of the name of any of their mental health surveys. The US Nurses Study is awesome, 50,000 nurses I think. But that's only women. There will be a lot of detailed suicide studies done on psych patients, but extrapolating their results to the whole population is dodgy. You can adjust for the sex ratio but other differences are unclear. Women are more likely to seek help with hea…
/r/MensRights20/01/18 08:19 AM
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No, but it was a decent source. I'd think there will be multiple mental health surveys sampling the whole population which cover this. There are even some longitudinal studies which cover it. The Dunedin longitudinal study and a bigger Scandinavian one should have something. It was Sweden I think, the Karolinska Institute will have analysed it. Numbers on SI and planning are more reliable than those on attempts, due to gender-sensitive problems defining what an attempt is. If someone hopes to di…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 11:24 PM
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Thanks. That statement came from the nannies didn't it? I know nothing about this beyond reading Dylan's story, and Moses', and the guy who made the doco.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 11:19 PM
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Haha. BPD is typically caused by a combination of genetic susceptibility to cluster B personality disorders plus chronic psychological abuse during childhood, often by a parent with a related genetic and abusive background. Narcissistic personality disorder is the one that causes the worst damage, we have a whole big sub called /r/RaisedByNarcissists for survivors and children who are still stuck with their families. It is common for people to know of or suspect three generations of severe abuse…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 06:53 PM
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I can believe it. I talk to people with BPD online. At that distance they are fine company, I like them. But the behaviour they describe can be atrocious, unless under continuous therapy they tend to leave a wide trail of destruction. In emergencies people break rules of all sorts. having BPD means feeling you are in an emergency frequently. Savage mood swings are common. Being hugely oversensitive is normal. They have little ability to regulate emotions. Fear of abandonment is often a powerful …
/r/MensRights19/01/18 06:48 AM
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Moses Farrow's story is compelling. There is no room for interpretation or doubt, either it is a complete fabrication or it is true. The nannies story fits his not Dylan's. The investigators concluded Dylan could not distinguish fact from fiction and had been coached by Mia, which is consistent with narcissistic abuse. Dylan sounded perfectly credible I thought, and likely still would now I know much more about sexual abuse and trauma. But her story is also consistent with abuse by Mia. The powe…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 06:37 AM
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SI, planning and attempts are much higher in women. I've seen 2x - 3x for attempts though comparisons are hard between the very different methods used by M and F. SI and "threats" (that word is usually highly inappropriate and harmful) are very different things. People with BPD are notorious for attention seeking behaviour and including threats, but they are also notable for genuine attempts and for completed suicides (10% of people diagnosed I think). It is usually best to just censor the word …
/r/MensRights19/01/18 01:45 AM
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The heading was the only good bit. The article was unfocussed and said nothing interesting that I could see. I guess there was some very weak humour. Someone got told to write an article on something to do with MeToo maybe, and couldn't come up with much. But they posted it anyway. Good riddance to it.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 01:31 AM
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Yow, that's horrible. Are you able to trust women now?
/r/MensRights19/01/18 12:05 AM
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Thanks for those. The evidence of coaching and extreme coercive control wipes out Dylan's tapes and her later testimony. I've talked online to people who are so terrified of their parents that they would literally rather kill themselves than face bringing it up with their therapist and who can't talk about anything related at all verbally, they can only do it through anonymous text if at all. The traumatic past or current life can be compartmentalised, it is not available to a cross-examining la…
/r/MensRights18/01/18 06:40 PM
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The poor and the psychos will always be with us, true. Did you feel like she believed what she was saying or was it an outright malicious fabrication? I live with a woman who can be quite alluring if it suits her purposes to be so. But I've made a mental note to never touch her because apart from having the morals of a shark she has told me stuff which points to a mild delusional mental illness. It just wouldn't be safe.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 03:34 PM
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This is 100% plausible to me, Mia Farrow's alleged behaviour fits what I am told by many abused children. Dylan's story also fits what we know about abuse, but they can't both be true. Dylan's story also fits with what we remember from the "recovered memory" catastrophe of the 90s. People like to say that was all about younger children but it wasn't, there were a slew of adults coming forward with "recovered memories" created by incompetent or downright predatory therapists and counsellors. It i…
/r/MensRights18/01/18 02:24 PM
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Is gender not a protected category in the UK? I imagine it is in most places.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 12:29 PM
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You are not the problem. You are not going to be in Ansari's shoes because you would not behave as he did. I read the original story at Babe, the accusation is that he was persistently pushy in a way that just isn't going to happen with you. I've never given a second's thought to being accused of sexual assault in all my long life, and I've mostly been with feminist sympathisers or active feminists. What has kept me out of trouble all that time is not being pushy. Women who want to be dominated …
/r/MensRights18/01/18 12:32 AM
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If the behaviour isn't bad but might not be what that boy would choose if not pressured, it is called the masculine gender role. If the behaviour is seen as bad then that would be described as "toxic masculinity", not fragile. I don't think I've ever used the term "fragile masculinity" but it refers to men who are not secure about their masculine identity. That might manifest as over-sensitivity or anxiety about signs of masculinity e.g. the man who is uncomfortable carrying his GF's handbag or …
/r/MensRights18/01/18 12:07 AM
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The great majority of people do not do particularly bad sexual stuff. Of those who do, the great majority don't have enough credible people prepared to speak out about them that a journalist would risk printing the allegations. So the chance of gay people being MeTooed is fairly slim. There has been Spacey and a couple of top male fashion photographers, no lesbians yet.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 11:16 PM
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The Guardian is one of the world's most-read news sites. The standard of journalism is high and they do a lot of original investigations, which is why I read it and link their articles. I stopped reading Bindel (and Valenti) years ago. I have a sub to the NY Times, another high quality paper, but it has a soft paywall of 5 articles per week so I don't link it so often. As for Delpy, at this point, she's an American, and will fall into line with American feminism. In that interview she described …
/r/MensRights16/01/18 09:52 PM
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So, the question of why Hollywood roles for women are said to be so limited, so male-oriented, so little about the lives of actual women? "Said to be"? by whom? by the feminist propaganda machine? I can't believe you want to go there but let's play Objective Facts with the reverse Bechdel test: Consider this simple test to objectively measure whether a movie has even a possibility of reflecting the lives of men. To pass, the movie must contain: 1) At least two men. 2) The men must have a convers…
/r/MensRights16/01/18 09:08 PM
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You're gone off half-cocked with this cultural imperialism stuff. I know who Denueve is, I said I love her work. I've seen eight of her films, probably more. Remember my age. I was raised on European movies, often French, because at that time Hollywood movies were brain-dead and the US independents were not much of a force. Hell, I snuck into an entire 6 - lecture series on French cinema at university. Even now, a count of my movie hard drive found 40% were not made in English. . I hope you did …
/r/MensRights16/01/18 01:29 PM
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the only reason you guys do the bare minimum to help any men at all is in reaction to feminism helping women. That is an interesting point. Feminists say that too, and there is a lot of truth in it. It does not necessarily matter though. Men might come here for support with custody issues, say. They have been radicalised by their court experience, feeling fathers are devalued in society. Here they pick up the idea this is all feminism's fault and join in with the project to match feminist compla…
/r/MensRights15/01/18 02:40 PM
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Exploitation of male models must be very old news in the media world, and it is so structurally inevitable that one does not need to consult reality to know whether it is a big problem or not. The only reason the investigation was done and the article produced is because women have made MeToo so big. Men's contribution to MeToo has been relatively minor. Terry Crews' story could not have stood alone. It is a strong story but I can't see it having legs on its own. Also alone it would have been so…
/r/MensRights15/01/18 11:02 AM
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It does hurt. I see this all the time with rape. The cruel fact is that a social or professional group which is forced to split by a rape allegation has a strong tendency to split based on each person's investment in the two parties. Any organisations involved will also tend to follow their interests not the truth, if the truth is deniable. The law can not help you with that because courts do not prove innocence, only guilt. Even if you could prove her allegation contains lies, that would not pr…
/r/MensRights15/01/18 03:24 AM
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She has the upper hand here in several ways, you have to ask yourself what winning could realistically look like before you think about fighting. If you could recover the harassing emails, would that change public opinion of people who think you raped her? Could you even prove those recovered emails to be genuine, to the satisfaction of her followers? They aren't going to do any work to check out your story. She does not have the option of backing down. Even if you can win in court, what would y…
/r/MensRights15/01/18 02:04 AM
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That sort of monkey business is one reason why press coverage of Gamergate was and is 100% negative. When serious journalists tried to see what the fuss was about they found a mess of underhand tactics which made a literal joke of the claim to be about ethics.
/r/MensRights14/01/18 10:24 PM
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From the NY Times article. (15 men have accused Bruce Weber). Those who said they were on the receiving end of unwanted attention felt the choice was clear: acquiesce and be rewarded with lucrative ad campaign work, or reject the approach and risk hobbling, or destroying, a career. Many said they still would not speak publicly. In fashion, young men are particularly vulnerable to exploitation. Male models are “the least respected and most disposable,” said the former model Trish Goff. “It was ge…
/r/MensRights14/01/18 08:18 AM
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That is certainly true among followers of the more populist feminist sites e.g. Clementine Ford and her ilk. They accept the criticism if you point it out, but despite the predominance of women being 10 to 1 perhaps, it is often a man who has to call it out. Academic feminists are more aware of consistency, they do it a lot less. Yet Ford was still penis size shaming for a while after finishing her gender studies major. I'm sure she had some tactical reason but her followers seldom queried it. F…
/r/MensRights14/01/18 07:50 AM
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They are assumed safer for good reason. Women's sexual offending against children has a very different pattern to men's. What men and women sexually abused as children tell us is that women don't prey on their own children nearly as much as fathers, and they are very much less likely to prey on outsiders.
/r/MensRights14/01/18 07:38 AM
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Meh, the women on the petition signed by Catharine DeNeuve are not catching praise from many women that I can see. This is an interesting comment on it, by a woman who wrote a book about a Title IX false accusation. She thinks Catherine Millet actually wrote it the letter that Deneuve's name has been promoted on. That would explain a lot. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/13/has-me-too-catherine-deneuve-laura-kipnis
/r/MensRights14/01/18 02:02 AM
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There are lots of good and experienced people on /r/RaisedByNarcissists There are a lot of resources in the sidebar too, and links to related subs. Look through the symptoms of BPD, their children often get at least some of the nine signs even if they are subclinical. Same for PTSD, anxiety, depression. It is useful to be able to separate those illnesses from yourself, they are all treatable to some extent.
/r/MensRights14/01/18 01:44 AM
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She's not a normal person, it looks pretty obvious she has narcissistic personality disorder. That means OP will have some serious mental health problems too, he is in no shape to fight her even if fighting a narcissist was a sane thing to do (it isn't, it can be a catastrophically stupid thing). Recovery from a severe case is slow and partial and it does not really start until LC is established. That means Low Contact, which is difficult but sometimes possible. Many or most serious cases go to …
/r/MensRights14/01/18 01:35 AM
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Court indeed sucks all around regarding sex cases. We can tinker with court but apart from the psychopath - style serial rapists I'm convinced that as a society we would get a better return from reducing the input side. That doesn't mean the dreaded consent classes at university so much as starting at preschool level, teaching respectful interactions and identifying and helping the kids whose mental health is at risk. That includes the girls who will go on to be potential false accusers.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 11:11 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to explain all that.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 12:52 PM
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That would be a relevant and important point to make on the other article I posted by the creator, as a criticism of the list creation. But this article is only about some men who went to a lot of trouble to spread the list, and why they did it. Your comment is the third in a row to avoid the topic, I wonder if there will be a fourth distraction.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 08:31 AM
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A bit of both. I didn't know her history brought up by Mens-Advocate. Her alliance with powerful men is not against her own best interests, she has done extremely well for herself.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 11:26 PM
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recognized by the UN as a basic human right In what context? I imagine it would be in criminal trials, do the UN suggest it in other contexts? In journalistic codes and civil processes the question is the standard of proof. Civil courts around the world use 51% in settling disputes. I'm sure there are other civil processes where a higher standard would be appropriate, I just can't think of one right now, other than US Title IX proceedings where in some cases a standard higher than 51% but lower …
/r/MensRights12/01/18 11:20 PM
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Did you have anything to say about the subject? Maybe you could show how Mike Cernovich isn't a man, or sport writing audiences are not mainly male? How about the alt-right, do you have some information about how their leaders and followers are mostly women? You won't need to use up any of your bravery, it is just dots on a screen.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 11:12 PM
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To use the word "journalism" to describe the inevitably and inherently corrupt industry of video game publicity / reviewing is disingenuous or weirdly naive. "Actually it is all about ethics in video game reviewing" has long been a joke, used either as an insult to a bullshitter, or self-mockingly to defuse tension when a cover story starts to unravel. The game reviewing industry's corruption might be 90% due to financial interests and 9% dude to personal bias. I'll guess 1% is due to evil femin…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 11:07 PM
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"Class" my ass. I'm very sad to say Deneuve is an Uncle Tom. I've loved Deneuve's work since seeing her in Polanski's Repulsion (1965) as a schoolboy but know nothing of her private life. She only made two movies in Hollywood. "They were not smashing successes; nobody made me interesting proposals". Possibly she didn't put out so Hollywood didn't want to deal with her. Maybe you know better but one obvious interpretation of the two alliances you mentioned is that she has done very well for herse…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 09:05 AM
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Sadly it looks like that. This is Julie Delpy a beautiful and talented French actress who came to Hollywood: The first week she arrived in LA in 1993, then in her early 20s, she brushed off [director's] sexual advances. “It wasn’t aggressive. I didn’t snap at him. I just said: ‘It’s not for me. This is not who I am.’” Years later, she found out through friends that the man in question had spread it about that she was “difficult”. “I couldn’t figure out why every time I had a studio audition it w…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 07:28 AM
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I've read by an expert on the subject that it can be because they don't believe the other parent is safe and death is preferable for their children. Or they are a narcissist and think of the kids as an extension of themselves rather than as separate people. Or they can be obsessed with hatred / loss of control / revenge against their partner and the kids are collateral damage. That is narcissist type thinking I guess.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 06:12 AM
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All of the accusers were banned from the Golden Globe ceremony, it seems. Those who kept quiet and took no risks got to publicly congratulate each other on how woke they all are.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 01:01 AM
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I long for the days when GW Bush was seen as an incompetent, oafish buffoon, working for Big Oil and various corporate donors. By today's standards GW Bush seems like a sensible, capable statesman, honest, patriotic, uncorruptible, and recognising that science is a thing.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 12:49 AM
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I have seen this question in feminist sites. There will usually be women who started well underage with older men, and feel fine about it though they would not want the age of consent dropped below 16. And there are some who felt good at the time but were severely messed up by it. And some who did not feel good at the time.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 12:36 AM
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The Daily Mail claimed "someone familiar with the situation" said there had been complaints of sexual comments and groping from a few nurses. Other papers have not verified the claims and carefully state only what the Daily Mail said, not making any comment on the facts themselves.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 12:28 AM
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Atheists do murder-suicides with their kids too. Her recent miscarriage is a major suspect, that can cause wild hormonal swings. My wife had an awful year after our first miscarriage at 11 weeks. Having children raised by an opiate addict (if she was) is far from ideal, which the family court would take into account. The miscarriage, getting evicted in 2 weeks, a recent infidelity incident, likely drug addiction, and the likelihood of the family court awarding custody to the father is bunch of s…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 12:22 AM
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The photo is about the mis-application of that standard outside the courtroom. (Note the whole Stan Lee story has been said to be a jack-up by a crappy scandal sheet). "Innocent until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt" is for criminal courts, which use the 98% or 99% level of proof. It is seldom used in ordinary life. Civil courts use the 51% standard, and this is also used in some everyday situations when deciding who to believe. This article is about the compromise between accuser's an…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 11:24 PM
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As a man who gets to talk to far too many children with permanent, severe and sometimes fatal psychological damage from their parents (more often the mother unless it is sexual abuse), I wish it was far more common for people to make those anonymous calls to CPS, and for more social workers to turn up at people's homes and decide if they are worthy to raise their kids.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 11:15 PM
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Not all casting agents are abusive, and even those who are have a lot more to think about than their dick. They also have to put a cast together and keep their reputation and their job in a competitive field. Corruption is common but it is not universal.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 10:38 PM
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That is an old suggestion and no it is a bad idea, for the same reason as the Shitty Media Men list was a bad idea.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 10:33 PM
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Plenty of men have sent their own MeToo messages. You can send one yourself. I haven't, because my life is not significantly degraded by the effect of sexual trauma. What happens when women rape men or boys? A few months of jail at most. The minimum sentence for women is the same as for men in NZ, four years I think. We have had several cases posted on here where women got longer sentences than that for abusing underage boys, in the US and UK. And Australia I think.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 10:26 PM
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It isn't a blacklist, it is a list of unsupported anonymous allegations with zero authority. Yes I'd call it a man's fault at trying to use it to attack people if a blogger who buys into the idea that the profession of journalism and established news organisations are works of the devil and are "the enemy", to use Bannon's phrase, offers a $10k reward for a copy of the list of alleged media miscreants, then doxxes two of his enemies from the list and announces he will check with the other men be…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 10:03 PM
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Celibate, asexual and virginal people are usually very clear about both their romantic and their sexual orientation. To call a straight (i.e. hetero-romantic) person who is a bit physically flexible "bi" erases genuinely bi people. It seems to get done a lot by the majority of straight people who are repulsed by the idea of sex with their own kind. I think it is an expression of homophobia. By "flexible" I mean that someone is capable of having sex with a gender other than their basic orientatio…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 08:11 PM
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Why do you describe Cernovich as feminist and SJW? He was/is one of the leading figures of Gamergate, which exists to fight feminism and SJW-ism via the internet. I've not seen much from him but he is described as extreme right wing.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 08:06 PM
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I am pleased to report that putting the actress' name into Google News produced no stories on her, just a bunch of stories on Oprah which also mentioned her. PageSix is not a reputable site. It was inevitable that low-quality sites would start to scrape the bottom of the barrel but the good news is that even after a few days the mainstream news sites have not touched the story.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 01:20 PM
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Once this sort of list gets leaked there's no saying who will use it. After Harper's got a lot of protests and pulled stories and the originator published an article outing herself, Roiphe suddenly claimed she would not have exposed her. That contradicts what her fact checker had previously emailed to the creator. Below is from the article: Cernovich ... presented his acquisition of the list as a reportorial coup, and insisting that he was acting to rid the media industry of sexual predators, pu…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 01:07 PM
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Ugh. I only saw the headlines but withholding evidence is a shitty trick which inevitably leads to that sort of tragedy. I'm glad they got caught and shown up publicly. I'm uneasy about the attitude of their head of the police force. She wanted the target sucess ratio dropped from the traditional 50% down to 45 or even 40%, I don't recall which. The purpose of that was to allow more cases to be brought to trial, and thus get more convictions. I understand wanting more convictions and I agree wit…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 11:04 AM
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I hope nobody is serious about Oprah running for president but as you say it does say a lot about US politics now that it is even conceivable. Or that Trump was conceivable. Or Reagan. Oh well, at least it wasn't Naomi Campbell.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 10:18 AM
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I got that feeling about this case. Listen and believe is not for judges or prosecutors. A version of it was inappropriately used by some police forces in the UK at one time, until they got into big trouble by applying it to historical celebrity cases which naturally attract a lot of kooks with fake stories. That led to proceeding with highly publicised investigations which had the effect of witch hunts. More suspicion of the complainants would have avoided that. In the police context it is mean…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 10:09 AM
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This story could come from any English speaking country. If you want this to happen less then vote for lefty govts with higher taxation and less respect for parent's individual choices vs state protection of children. Countries like Sweden and Holland may do a better job of supervising foster care. I have heard of children being rescued from narcissistic parents in Holland, which does not happen in any English speaking country to my knowledge.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 09:55 AM
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How is this relevant to men's rights? It is not news that women kill children. Most people know women kill more babies than men. It is not news that the foster care systems in most if not all countries are very dangerous to children. (Remember that next time you see a story about a child abused after being left with its natural parents and everyone is asking why it wasn't removed).
/r/MensRights11/01/18 09:50 AM
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Lesbians became accepted within feminism back in the late 60s I think, there was a big fight and the Purple Peril prevailed, since then lesbians have been a significant presence. Feminists are generally fine with male gays, I've not heard of any theoretical opposition. I have seen bitching about male gays for non theoretical stuff like being self-indulgent and not thinking about what support lesbians might need for example. TERFs are quite rare and are the only kind of anti-trans feminists, beca…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 09:39 AM
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SMERF is nice but is already covered by the old word "separatist", as in rad les fem sep. It was a popular movement in the 70s and many feminists back then felt a bit embarrassed about still being involved with men, it was a somewhat shameful weakness. One idea was to withdraw from men until we sorted our shit out. It was recognised to be a bad idea after a while. BARF is funny but does not work because radical feminists are very much into biology. It is the third wavers who took up postmodern g…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 09:17 AM
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It isn't a matter of her not deserving it, it is that just that doxxing is such a toxic tactic that it should not be used. The distinction between aggression and defensive response is unfounded regardless of how clear and simple and righteous it usually appears to the person who sees themselves as defender. Most people learn this early in junior school, with lots of tears at their teacher's rejection of the concept of "who started it". An example of a delusion is the idea that this issue is conf…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 02:31 AM
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I wasn't aware of that. I wonder how th Oprah - Weinstein friendship is doing. It might say a lot that she was still prepared to give that speech. I just saw the transcript, it seemed she did a good job. It would have been great to have one of the victims do it though. Salma Hayek wrote a brilliant article on her experiences with Weinstein and Hollywood, she could have done an awesome speech.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 02:07 AM
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Below is an explanation of why this shit is going to continue. A lot of women have said similar things, basically "welcome to my life". I’m very sorry that men feel fearful of sex right now but, as a woman, I have always been frightened of it. I have always been fearful of being sexually assaulted. I have always been fearful of casual hookups. I have always been fearful of what could happen and, for good reason, because I was eventually sexually assaulted. If men are just now feeling a bit scare…
/r/MensRights11/01/18 01:57 AM
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True. Though Oprah started out very poor.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 03:18 PM
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That's like saying that if violence is acceptable in retaliation for violence that violence is always acceptable. That is my understanding of the Sicilian intergenerational vendetta system. The original doxxer in the Shitty Media Men list may be identifiable as the compiler of the list. Or is it each of the accusers? The persons who leaked the list so it was briefly available to the public (if it was) are villains I reckon. In this instance it may be feasible to identify one side as the original…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 02:38 PM
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Good point. One school of thought is your chaperone should be of your sex. And a female one for your date. They should be mature. So, her dad and your mum? I can see that working nicely if you are serious. Others understandably say chaperones should be female regardless because All Men Are Rapists.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 02:01 PM
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This shit has continued for tens of thousands of years. There have always been consequences. Huge, tragic, terrifying, life changing consequences in many cases. MeToo is just a very small rearrangement in the distribution of consequences. It is a storm in the media purely because it involves celebrities. Hardly any men are affected - less than a hundred on the website that records all the men accused in the media. If you think a hundred men is a significant number then you have no idea about the…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 12:28 PM
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Hell, it is exactly 25 years since the arrival of my baby ended the time, budget and attention span needed for my former serious movie habit. The regrettable trend for Hollywood to fill movies with eye candy is a separate issue. Or maybe it isn't, if your theory is correct and everyone has been Weinsteining, movies have been cast based on who does the best blowjobs, selected out of a pool of exceptional beauties. I could list a bunch of good women actors but I only know the ones from 25+ years b…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 09:02 AM
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I see what you mean. I don't know the law, maybe battery is what it is. Sounds weird though.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 08:53 AM
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I can't think how they could work but a lot of women would be very happy if MGTOW & RedPill guys use chaperones, or if they just identify themselves on their dating profiles.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 08:28 AM
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If doxxing is acceptable in retaliation then it is always acceptable in any circumstances, because life is complex enough that both sides can always explain earnestly why "they hit me first", and if challenged on the history, can come up with an even earlier offense by the other side. Did we learn nothing from the early months of Gamergate? Leaving aside doxxing the same effect of an infinite regression of aggressions happened with Ghostbusters 3, it might be fun to try to list all the layers of…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 08:24 AM
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You kiss your workmates without being absolutely certain they are OK about it? Yes, then - workplaces should have a segregated area for people like you. They can throw the handsy women in there too and y'all can have a ball.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 07:55 AM
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People who can act are not a dime a dozen. Countless beautiful men and women have tried to get into movies, found they can't act, spent years studying acting, and found they can't learn to act either.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 07:52 AM
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DeNeuve has been absolute royalty since a young age, she is untouchable. She is not well placed to comment on an issue concerning powerlessness.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 04:01 AM
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There have been cases of individuals joining a genuine case with a false claim, but I too have not seen a single case of that happening as a pile on to a false accusation. There have been cases of a group of schoolgirls conspiring to make a false accusation, I don't know if any got into court. I imagine the great majority would fall apart before charges were laid. I have had a couple of our guys debating at length with endless avoidance of the question "should Weinstein be given his job back?".
/r/MensRights10/01/18 02:34 AM
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can make me think I deserved it. XKCD has a relevant cartoon as usual: https://www.xkcd.com/1216/
/r/MensRights09/01/18 02:50 PM
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False report calculations are always based on raw reports to police. If the report was not progressed far because of lack of evidence, say, and it was also false then yes it would be less work for police to just dump it for lack of evidence rather than investigate the possibility of false report. It is unlikely there will be enough evidence to prosecute for wasting police time anyway so it is easier to let it go. The "no crime" (UK) category gets more like 10% I thought. The roughly equivalent "…
/r/MensRights09/01/18 09:21 AM
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Who said it was OK? Bad things happen in the world, so what? What would you suggest? To save that one guy in Japan his embarrassment should everybody stop talking about sexual abuse? Should Weinstein be given his job back? What should we do about the hundreds of other mini-Weinsteins all over the place? I'm sure a hell of a lot worse things are going to happen to men as a result of MeToo than for a CPR giver to have a crazy accusation which does not result in charges. I don't see a problem with …
/r/MensRights09/01/18 08:47 AM
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I agree, psychological agression is hugely damaging. We have focused on physical violence because it is easy to understand, and physical injuries are visible. Also, it is legally definable and prosecutable. The other reason for the legal and social focus on physical aggression, and it is a really good one, is that physical fights can get out of control and result in permanent injuries, PTSD and even death. Women sometimes say "I wished he would just hit me, that isn't as bad as the psychological…
/r/MensRights09/01/18 08:04 AM
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Snappy title but it misrepresents due process, which matters since legal vs colloquial concepts are the heart of the article. It is a good article though. I can never understand why so many people can't understand the differing standards of proof between criminal and civil courts. In almost 100% of our lives we do not use the criminal standard of 98% or so. We use the civil court standard of 51% for many things. We might use a very low 10% standard of evidence, e.g. for selecting flatmates and p…
/r/MensRights09/01/18 07:49 AM
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I live with a conspiracy fantasist, he would certainly be down for this one. I moved in a woman with a couple of teen daughters who shared a room, he was scared of getting accused of something since we are normally an all male house. Somehow we survived. If insurance companies wanted to start a scare campaign they would not look for hard targets like Weinstein. He has a huge fighting fund, many, many powerful connections. Top actresses are not cheap to hire. It would be a ridiculously hard thing…
/r/MensRights09/01/18 03:29 AM
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OK, I agree it is too common for feminist claims of objectification to rest on questionable assumptions that men do not think about women except as sex objects. Your suggestion this can demonstrate a lack of empathy for men is interesting, I agree that is right some times. Of course there is "a distinct lack of objectivity", that is the nature of it. There is no objectatron machine we can point at something to measure its coefficient of objectification. What would we point it at anyway, the obje…
/r/MensRights07/01/18 08:49 AM
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That makes no sense to me. You are saying that because some people have poor reading comprehension an entire category of behaviour should be censored. How could that work, would the news only contain allegations of specific crimes? How would that avoid the problem you raise? Mentioning a minor sexual crime (a butt grope, say) would, in your model, make everybody think of rape and call for that man's head on a stake. Same result. Sexual misconduct commonly describes bad behaviour which does not b…
/r/MensRights07/01/18 08:17 AM
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In the US there is said to be an important principle (part of due process?) that the govt is not allowed to "disappear" people, that is why defendants must be publicised at arrest. I don't see why the accused can't be given the choice, but I am not a lawyer. . All below is from the UK in 2010 before the proposal was dropped: Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/jun/07/nick-clegg-rape-anonymity-rethink Last week Harman at prime minister's questions challenged David Cameron to withdra…
/r/MensRights07/01/18 04:59 AM
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This verdict must be sure and provide a clear answer. That is not going to happen, for the vast bulk of cases. Currently roughly 2% of reports to police result in conviction. Proven false reports are a little less than that I think. With more effort going into trying to prove falsity rather than just dropping unsuccessful cases the convicted and proven false rates might equalise, 2% each. 40% - 50% of cases tried are convicted. Traditionally it was 50% in the UK, now it is 45% or even 40% I thin…
/r/MensRights07/01/18 03:19 AM
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But feminism does not claim that. Both of the statements in the OP are strawmen typically used to evade discussing the real issues involving objectification and attraction.
/r/MensRights07/01/18 01:25 AM
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It was normal politeness not attraction that was the problem. They were seated next to each other at an awards dinner or something. He just ignored her and checked out of the real world in favour of phone-world. It would have been rude regardless of gender or attraction.
/r/MensRights07/01/18 01:23 AM
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the same kind of bad behaviour There is a crucial difference in the context of the mens' and womens' teams which makes it highly unlikely "the same kind of bad behaviour" could occur. The women's team could put up a corresponding web page to collect ratings, desired sex acts, unconsented naked pictures and whatever other sexual stalking was going on. It could breach rules and receive disciplinary action if only for the photos. But it is hard to imagine what circumstances could replicate the cruc…
/r/MensRights07/01/18 01:09 AM
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Sure, it is fine to talk about who they find attractive on the female team so long as it is done privately and they are not being obnoxious to the women. But they did a lot more than that. I don't recall the details but they created an online rating system including comments of what sex acts they would like to do, and creepshot photos which very obviously the women would not have given consent to. There were requests for more unconsented photos, naked I think to be taken and published. And the w…
/r/MensRights07/01/18 12:27 AM
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Are you saying Terry Richardson is a fine guy and you'd let him alone to shoot your teenage daughter?
/r/MensRights07/01/18 12:12 AM
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Those sources did not make either of the claims of OP, both of which are a simple-minded missing of the point.
/r/MensRights07/01/18 12:10 AM
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Charlie Brooker has never been shy to criticise all sorts of things, his columns were great angry rants.
/r/MensRights07/01/18 12:07 AM
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And feminists are so 100% up themselves they still have not noticed what happened. They refuse to even understand, let alone take responsibility for, how feminism & SJW-ism is actually perceived by actual people who actually vote.
/r/MensRights07/01/18 12:05 AM
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Suddenly declaring you find men attractive and ostentatiously slurping a few dicks does not get you off the hook for being a homophobe. You need a decent indecent history with men or else you're a homophobe. /s
/r/MensRights06/01/18 11:57 PM
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Neither of those statements are feminist positions. OP will need to study harder if he wants to get with a feminist. It could work for a pickup line : "Educate me, shitlady!"
/r/MensRights06/01/18 11:35 PM
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NotAllMen TRP go on at length about how women are pussy but otherwise vapid children. MGTOW claim they don't find much else to appreciate about women either. They keep raving about sex robots.
/r/MensRights06/01/18 11:14 PM
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Who has been equating Franken's alleged behaviour with rape?
/r/MensRights06/01/18 08:20 PM
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Source for Franken's sexual misconduct being equated with rape? There were allegations of sexual misbehaviour from maybe eight people. I never saw any of it inaccurately or misleadingly described, though I only read respectable news organisations. If flaky right wing bloggers made wild misinterpretations of the facts, that is not the fault of the MeToo campaign. What is "vague and meaningless" about "sexual misconduct" or "sexual misbehaviour", which is the phrase I've more often seen? Use of "s…
/r/MensRights06/01/18 08:19 PM
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I'm not doubting your or others' results, and I refer people to your sub. The bit I was contradicting is the mechanism. You stated that T lost in semen is significant and avoiding the loss makes a difference. That doesn't fit with what I know but I'll look up the book, thanks.
/r/MensRights06/01/18 07:20 PM
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"other people’s research that you read online" was a team of medical scientists measuiring T levels in blood and semen of 25 men, publishing their results in a respected peer-reviewed scientific journal. Your "first hand experience" of the mechanisms of T level modificatin was not experience, it was just you pulling a theory out of your ass or repeating some crap from some doofus who made it up after reading semen has T in it I guess, possibly in an article about the guy who makes the interestin…
/r/MensRights06/01/18 01:09 PM
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Permission is about non gendered liability if something goes wrong, they get injured say.
/r/MensRights06/01/18 10:57 AM
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A perfect case of fake news. We are all supposed to be getting worried over something that has not even led to a single court case anywhere in the world.
/r/MensRights06/01/18 10:53 AM
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Ha. My name dates from when it seemed Jeb Bush had a fair chance at being president, and was a terrible option. How times change.
/r/MensRights05/01/18 04:19 AM
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How many cases have there been, in the entire world, ever? Has there ever been a single case, even one, which resulted in the rescuer receiving any kind of punishment? Was there even one where the rescuer received, on balance, more of a social penalty than a social reward? Squawker is a fake news site BTW. Did you really think CPR requires removing clothing and touching breasts? It is sternum compressions. strangers now likely find themselves increasingly reluctant to remove a woman’s clothes le…
/r/MensRights05/01/18 03:18 AM
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You don't think you would lose your job from walking away? Even if the woman was unrescuable you would be the main story if it got out. It is a fake news site BTW. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/squawker/
/r/MensRights05/01/18 02:58 AM
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What has this got to do with feminists? Do you think feminists are more likely to make false accusations and tell the police they remember stuff from when they were unconscious? Squawker is a fake news site BTW, their credibility is zero. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/squawker/
/r/MensRights05/01/18 02:45 AM
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Yes. Prevention is so much cheaper, more effective and more enjoyable than trying to fix broken people decades later.
/r/MensRights05/01/18 01:51 AM
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You might be surprised at how loony the young feminists of her generation were, quite possibly including your prof. I thought they were much closer to Marx. (The "cultural Marxism" guys tell it differently, but I don't know if their theory is taken seriously by anyone outside their circle. I don't know enough history to comment). The third wave struck me as feminism's acquiescence and adaptation to capitalist consumerism as the default lifestyle of the west and of feminists. This may well be unf…
/r/MensRights05/01/18 01:31 AM
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The ratio of unconjugated to conjugated steroid in semen was found to be approximately 1:10. Levels of unconjgated (i.e. active) T were similar to those found in plasma of normally menstruating women. In other words the amount of T lost through ejaculation is negligible. Anyway our bodies run on homeostasis e.g. losing a couple of pints of water or even blood today will be corrected automatically. T is not like gold in a safe. It is likely there are hormonal reactions to nofap but it isn't going…
/r/MensRights05/01/18 01:12 AM
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With mental health, sometimes it is the case. There is a huge mound of dead men who thought medicines were irrelevant to their mental health problems, which they often projected onto (usually genuine) external problems. Reactive depression is common, people can fall into a hole and often the cure is as simple as a few months on antidepressants to get them up and functioning again. Once they are on their feet they can deal with external problems and get their life back on track. Same with anxiety…
/r/MensRights05/01/18 12:48 AM
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You people with three-word names all think alike. Don't try to deny it.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 11:21 PM
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The men who need it most are usually the ones unable to pay for it. Counseling is expensive, therapy even more so. Men abused or having poor mental health in later life often were set up for it by their parents, or genetics. They don't tend to be big earners and are vastly over-represented among the unemployed and subsistence-employed.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 11:11 PM
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The idea of "killing all people" of a given type should be self-evidently reprehensible to any human who isn't a sociopath, gender Nazi. The idea of "Its raining men" should be self-evidently reprehensible to any human who isn't a sociopath, gender Nazi. At least 99% of the men would not land on something soft enough to prevent death, and some of the deaths will not be quick. There will be a huge mess to clean up. Yet the song was a huge hit with both men and women because of extreme levels of i…
/r/MensRights04/01/18 10:18 PM
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Damn, I fell asleep before reporting this to the mods. I'll do it now. Fake news is all about rapid response, or lack thereof. We should have a bot to filter out links to fake news sites. Then we can have big wars over "But Infowars published an accurate recipe for cheese muffins five years ago" and "Snopes.com was started by Karl Marx".
/r/MensRights04/01/18 10:12 PM
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Thanks, I didn't know that. Germany has an understandable sensitivity to legal restrictions affecting Jews but the fact MGM was outlawed there in the first place shows how most people feel about it. There is also a big Jewish lobby in the US, quite apart from the popularity of circumcision there (still around 50% at birth I think) so there is no possibility of a ban there in the forseeable future. I have seen pro-MGM choice US feminists but I'm pretty sure they are a minority.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 10:06 PM
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KillAllMen was not self-evidently unacceptable outside of MRA sites so far as I know. It would be interesting to show some of the tweet threads to normies. It might have been started by the popular Australian progressive feminist Clementine Ford. sie femi saw some of it happen on Twitter and had a good laugh. But then I was aware of the full context from the start.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 11:04 AM
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Relax, it is a fake news site. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/squawker/
/r/MensRights04/01/18 09:56 AM
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Safest to avoid the whole northern hemisphere.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 09:53 AM
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This is a fake news site. What part of this did you not understand? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/squawker/ Here is another headline of theirs: Is Obama Plotting A Second Civil War? Ex-Aide Says Yes, Obama Still Thinks He’s The President General principle: If presented with "news" on a site as obviously dodgy as this one, or just one you don't recognise, Google search for the alleged news / research. If it is genuine there will be articles about it by well established, respected news sites. If …
/r/MensRights04/01/18 09:51 AM
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Sexual assaults of men by women are practically never recorded by police. But this survey sampled the whole population. 17% of men and 47% of women said yes they had been "touched you in an inappropriate, sexual manner" in their lifetime.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 07:45 AM
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Surveys on this topic are critically dependent on the question, they mean nothing without it. The methodology can matter a lot too. The key question: "Have you ever been sexually assaulted, meaning someone touched you in an inappropriate, sexual manner without your consent, or not?" 17% of men 47 % of women It is consistent across all age groups, people over 65 report the same lifetime prevalence as people 18-34 and two other age bands.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 07:39 AM
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You could try following a few of the members whose posts interest you, then using your Friends tab to keep up with them. I've never tried blocking people but it should give a more tranquil experience.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 04:39 AM
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They generally aren't, unless they are also Jewish or Muslim. Or sometimes, from the US. But most oppose it.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 03:48 AM
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First you should clarify, by "pro MGM" you mean "pro parents' choice". Second, you are wrong. The majority of feminists would argue against parents' choice on the grounds of bodily autonomy. The only country where feminists would commonly do MGM themselves is the US so far as I know, and I don't think it is common there. Current circumcision rates for the whole US population at birth are about 50% and falling, but feminists will be much lower than that. I think Canadians still do a bit too. Apar…
/r/MensRights04/01/18 03:46 AM
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Oh good. She be reading and cogitating I guess. I hope she finds her way to /FeMRAdebates , that might suit her well.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 01:09 AM
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Your anger makes more sense now. This is something I've seen many times. A lot of men and women here who used to be feminist or sympathetic to some extent were treated badly by feminists when they needed support, or witnessed that, and changed their view of feminists completely. Invalidation is hugely hurtful and damaging. I talk a lot with victims of narcissistic abuse in childhood. Usually it is not sexual (other people often add that later). But both ways, invalidation is a central component …
/r/MensRights03/01/18 11:22 AM
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Too late, she's deleted her 3 month old account. So I guess the report back will be that we are rabid assholes. Strange, she kept her cool very well under attack. She might have got a PM attack too, we have guys who do that.
/r/MensRights03/01/18 05:16 AM
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With rape or sexual assault? Report them, their feminist license should be revoked. Sorry to hear that happened to you. Bear in mind they might have been thinking you were one of those guys who whips up remembered temporary embarrassment/ annoyance and indignance/outrage at "what if the genders were reversed" and presents it as deep sexual trauma. I see a lot of that, but I don't usually criticise in case their feelings are deeper than it looks.
/r/MensRights03/01/18 04:31 AM
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It is misleading to write "radical feminism" when your meaning will be far more widely and accurately understood if expressed as just "feminism". I couldn't find anything to directly reveal what variety of feminism she follows but there is abundant evidence of her deep engagement with gender roles, contrary to the usual rad fem position of seeing them as the root of all evil and wanting to destroy them. That strongly suggests she is a third waver, as is standard for a woman of her age and milieu…
/r/MensRights03/01/18 03:21 AM
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Being left out of the violence some men inflict on those around them is part of the old pedestal and a privilege that feminists are keen to retain. It isn't "equal". That bothers some people. I don't really begrudge it. What is the alternative, do we join the MGTOWs salivating over the thought of getting hit by a women because they imagine it would give them an excuse to punch a woman with full force because "equality"? I mentioned Isla Vista because the second phase was titled War On Women. The…
/r/MensRights03/01/18 12:40 AM
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Oh sure, feminists are totally into "women have it worse" in pretty much everything they look at. In areas where women have it better they are not so interested or they just look at the downsides for women, no matter how disproportionate that attention might be. I think that is where the general public often lose patience with feminists. The examples you found are common in the more academic kind of feminist. Those sort of people will never be satisfied. They will never agree patriarchy has been…
/r/MensRights02/01/18 10:23 PM
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AFAIK all feminists refer to patriarchy, though they see it in different ways. The idea of men as a class benefiting from oppressing the class of women is dispersed to varying extents through various types of feminism so I don't think it is useful as a way of defining radical feminism. You could say all forms of feminism are radical, but it doesn't make sense to define radical feminism to be mainstream. I've always thought it the idea of patriarchy is over-used when describing modern western soc…
/r/MensRights02/01/18 10:10 PM
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She wrote elsewhere about how often feminist men she is involved with end up having problems with their feminism. She's asking a lot by adding a need for detailed ideological compatibility on top of the usual stuff. I've had a feminist wife and major GF, a few of the others have been feminist-influenced without it being an identity or a particular interest, and two of the best relationships were with non or anti-feminists. It is perfectly feasible for people of differing ideologies to be partner…
/r/MensRights02/01/18 03:19 AM
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I don't see any BPD, and I talk to BPD people a lot. Posting this sort of stuff on FB can be a passive-aggressive way of publicly accusing their ex, committing the sin of FB drama. Projection could be involved, also there is the matter of judging people by the company they keep. OK, it sounds like her ex lied and disrespected her. Now you have to wonder whether she is in the habit of associating with people like that because that is her own level of behaviour. If you're interested, get her to ta…
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 02:58 AM
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A peek at my profile would rule out me being a HuffPo editor. When making accusations it pays to check the most obvious evidence available without effort, just to avoid being a dick.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 11:10 AM
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Oh dear. Radical feminists do exist, but if you think this relatively sweet and gentle young woman is a rad fem then ... I dunno, but you have a big shock coming. Wait a minute, on what planet would HuffPo employ a radical feminist? You really need to find out what this term means. Try Wikipedia for a quick intro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism
/r/MensRights01/01/18 11:06 AM
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This did not need explaining in the first place. I'm tired but just pretend I am now explaining to you why a HuffPo subeditor would not actually advocate gendercide because it would not be compatible with their business model. or their ethical position, or basic sanity. I have pointed out to you that you don't understand and why you should not necessarily expect to understand. That is as far as I can take you. If you can't get the rest from my earlier comments it is not surprising, your initial …
/r/MensRights01/01/18 09:32 AM
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You have a selective reading disability caused by the intense emotions you are experiencing preventing your higher thought processes from operating. A normal person would not have any difficulty seeing this for what it is.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 09:18 AM
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That is an totally one-eyed way of looking at it. New technology and sexual practices have handed defense lawyers a new weapon to bully complainants. The law proposes to limit its use to when it is relevant. That requires pre-trial filtering, as previously when exceptions to the rape shield law were requested. So the new evidence is not available without the prosecution being aware of it. A compromise was made, as is common in jurisprudence.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 09:00 AM
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Feminists identified the pedestal as a major problem for them in the 1960s and fought it determinedly, at least until the 3rd wave appeared about 1990. The Lipstick Feminism which appeared around that time didn't advertise it as such but I think one of the many girly indulgences it permitted was the return of the pedestal. The pedestal is still identified as an enemy of feminism though, confining women in a gender role. But all along good old hypocrisy and blindness to their own privilege has be…
/r/MensRights01/01/18 08:50 AM
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True, though the UK and NZ law has a differently named charge for female rape, with the same maximum penalty now in the UK at least. The problem with the FBI SRS might lie in the varying state laws. It will often be feasible to translate different terms into the common UCS Summary reporting format, but where some states don't have a corresponding law or don't generate a corresponding statistic that state has to be left out of the data. NBIRS is nicely detailed but I think only 4 or 5 states use …
/r/MensRights01/01/18 07:25 AM
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I agree with your reasoning on the purpose of different evidence levels. The campus rape mess is because those situations have become mixed up an inappropriate evidence levels are now being applied. The "dear colleague" letter which enforced a 51% evidence level caused such a mess because the colleges used that level for procedures involving much more than just dispute resolution. I have heard of university arbitration working well. A private hearing, confidence maintained by both sides understa…
/r/MensRights01/01/18 07:11 AM
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Jews, Blacks, men and women are all different. Sometimes it is instructive to plug one group into a sentence written about another group, compare the result, and consider why the result is different, if it is. But to get your cock in a knot over the fact there is a difference is to erase genuine differences either between the groups, or between their context. (Not that the context and nature of a group are not always distinguishable from each other). The tactic of erasing genuine differences, es…
/r/MensRights01/01/18 06:07 AM
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OK, I looked her up. She's the Parenting column editor. Feminist discussions on parenting typically recognise the importance of fathers, you might be surprised to hear. So she writes articles like 12 Fathers Across The Country On What It Means To Be A ‘Good Dad’. This presents a problem. If she massacres all the men, she won't be able to write about fathers any more and her empire will lose half of its subjects. Even if she leaves a breeding population by sparing 10% of the most delicious Chads …
/r/MensRights01/01/18 05:51 AM
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What makes you think you are capable of recognising a joke by a feminist? Here is my favourite feminist joke of all time, told to me in the 90s by a fat hairy legged feminist (who I should have been screwing if I hadn't been so clueless about women at the time). It is extremely relevant to this discussion: Q: How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb? A: That's not funny.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 03:55 AM
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Have you seen feminists promoting the thing about PTSD as justifying "it is worse for women"? I haven't. Don't spread that around without finding the source BTW. It came from an organisation working with PTSD but it is a hard comparison to make. NISVS has some data on it and DV, the prevalence of several trauma symptoms in men was about 1/4 of the women's rate. It is hard to say what that means though. What I have been saying about it is not repeating any kind of feminist policy I'm aware of. It…
/r/MensRights01/01/18 03:51 AM
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Nobody with basic reading and cultural literacy can see anything about genocide here.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 03:32 AM
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I read real good, and I have some understanding of the context a HuffPo staffer's Twitter followers are likely to have. I read the news. I don't read HuffPo but have seen enough in previous years to know what sort of stuff they post. There was a whole lot posted about Hollygate this year, amirite? This joke might help you to understand her tweet. I don't know if it appeared on HuffPo but its readers would understand it. 2016: My favourite celebrities are dead. 2017: My favourite celebrities are …
/r/MensRights01/01/18 03:26 AM
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Meh, it isn't my biggest concern but it would be good to get a draft law passed just for consistency, and to make women think about the subject. It would be a sad loss to MRAs but we still have plenty of other stuff left to bitch about.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 03:07 AM
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Tunnel vision and 100% confidence in your own rightness are both anger symptoms. Let me explain the logical structure of your 1000% correct arguments: There is a crunchy angry biscuit base, a thick layer of anger filling, topped with more anger and baked at angry heat for too damn long. Is it so common for people to delete their account after interacting with you that it does not register any more?
/r/MensRights01/01/18 02:50 AM
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Sorry, I meant perjury not false allegation. Much more serious penalty but harder to prove.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 12:37 AM
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It is an authoritarian question, if you want to use that word. It is about rules enforced through the authority of the mod and the sub rule-makers. Authority authority authority.
/r/MensRights01/01/18 12:33 AM
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Getting killed by women is not something men worry about. Not today, and not in the past so far as I know. Yes there were mass killings of men, no they were not by women. For women, getting killed by men has always been a thing. For women, getting killed by someone is almost synonymous with getting killed by a man. The Montreal massacre and Isla Vista killings were by crazy guys but they did represent a wide dissatisfaction, it wasn't random. They really were attacks on women as such. I don't kn…
/r/MensRights01/01/18 12:20 AM
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Think back to high school English, when you got taught to describe a bunch of non-literal writing techniques. Irony, satire, hyperbole, parody, metaphor, simile, devil's advocate, dream state, stream of consciousness, parable, wish fulfillment fantasy... I probably missed a whole bunch. Aside from competence in reading English, you would expect the Twitter followers of a feminist (how can I tell?) HuffPo subeditor to understand that a new year's resolution tweet may need to be taken in context o…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 10:55 PM
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I guess Twitter would have a thousand subcultures, many of them stupid as judged by people outside that culture. But who is to judge them?
/r/MensRights31/12/17 10:40 PM
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I do myself. "Butthurt" is a somewhat gendered insult which I then apply inappropriately to women, because ideological consistency is not my strongest suit and I don't care enough. Shoot me, three bullets. #KillAllMenButMeFirst
/r/MensRights31/12/17 10:37 PM
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"It is worse for women" is the big thing I didn't like about Koss's reasoning. That has no place in the law. I have not noticed feminists promoting that line myself, though I'm sure Koss is not alone. I've noticed women on average are a lot more sympathetic to male victims of women than men are. Feminists are far more likely to take it seriously than non-feminist women too. The tough bit will be when they have to consider a woman facing a 4 year sentence over one of the complex and difficult cas…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 10:33 PM
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You're still avoiding answering the question, both for yourself and for what you think Fiamengo is saying. It is a pretty simple question I think. Most people with her sort of position are careful to exclude Weinstein and talk about the more uncertain cases. She chose to go hard and stand up for Weinstein, that isn't an accident. So, if we follow Fiamengo's suggestion of borrowing "innocent until proven guilty" from the courthouse and try to apply it to the social and business worlds, what would…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 09:51 PM
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Yes. Furthermore I know precisely zero about her except HuffPo subeditor, and the photo of the tweet. I called it a "guess at a likely meaning". Even if she was thinking of something different I am a hundred times closer to her intent than the bizarre literal-minded interpretations in this thread. Someone could follow it up with her. I already know the answer, this whole stupid argument has already been played a dozen times with Clementine Ford's sometimes rather funny #KillAllMen tweets over th…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 09:15 PM
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She didn't call for mass murder you steaming dork. Speaking as a person who has mostly women friends and has read a lot in the feminist subculture, here is a guess at a likely meaning: The news in 2017 has highlighted a lot of male misbehaviour, and men's reactions to this news e.g. that it is news for a start, has made me wonder why I spend so much time and energy chasing the D when the owners of said D are so determinedly ignorant about my life. There are plenty of great women I could be hangi…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 09:13 AM
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Do you see a risk someone could take this literally and go out killing men? The only risk I can see is that it might cause a grievous level of butthurt among MRAs and possibly some other men. For that reason I have been asking feminists to stop doing it.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 08:53 AM
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Treating genders identically is often a fair and reasonable way to improve "equality", whatever is meant by that. In the case of social media censorship I think it is. But in general discourse, no it is not fair and reasonable to pretend men and women are the same. For example women rarely but occasionally get killed by men, and rightly or wrongly they are dissatisfied with this situation. It isn't just death that is the problem, there is other bad stuff too. Men get killed by men too, and some …
/r/MensRights31/12/17 08:47 AM
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What makes you think you are competent to read her tweet, pulled out of its context? Or even in context? Are you familiar with the subculture a HuffPo subeditor's Twitter followers are likely to have? Do you have many close friends who are feminist, enough to be familiar with how they think? Reading outrage porn on TiA and MensRights doesn't count.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 08:26 AM
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No, all is fine. I had a peek at your history once to see where you were coming from. You were having a bad time so I started with some homework, it often helps. Mission was not accomplished, you have an impressive talent for challenging other people's inconsistencies without revealing your own position. I didn't expect to understand the stuff on /Drama etc, I never know how many layers of irony are involved so I stay away from those subs. I hope you're having a good evening, it is New Year's he…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 08:16 AM
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Manholes should be called peopholes.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 07:51 AM
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"Don't touch the poop", in other words. I suggest Fiamengo's argument is the poop you don't want to touch.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 07:45 AM
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OK, this is making more sense now. If you are right it is a big problem. I did notice the FBI did not specify the common situation of F>M penile penetration. I'm not in the US so much of this is unfamiliar to me. I've skimmed through Koss's arguments and don't like them. I don't have an answer for what should be done with CDC statistics. The current situation allows male victims of women to be nearly all erased by only quoting "rape" figures for men and women. I'm sure that happens accidentally,…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 06:37 AM
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We have had a lot of comments but nobody supporting Fiamengo is offering anything but avoidance of the issue. Unless Weinstein is convicted, should he not have been fired? Should he still be in a job which gives him access to and overwhelming power over vulnerable young women? If Fiamengo is saying something else, what is it? Repeating "innocent until proven guilty" is either tautolgous or irrelevant so far as I can see, unless it is proposed that should apply to social and business penalties.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 05:22 AM
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The law says rape is penetration, however slight, of the oral, anal or vaginal opening with a penis (Iowa does not count objects or non-penis body parts as qualifying for rape). The law ends with Males and females are both capable of committing the crime of rape as defined in this section. Since rape requires a penis to penetrate something, and females don't have one yet are still capable of rape, it is clear that Idaho follows the modern (in the last 25 years) pattern of recognising the penetra…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 05:09 AM
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What does "unless ... convicted he is entitled to the benefit of reasonable doubt" mean for you? Do you think he should not have been fired, and his business relationships should not be affected? Was Fiamengo suggesting he should not have been fired? What social and business penalties, if any, do you and Fiamengo think are fair for HW? Consider an example. There was an accusation by a 21 year old aspiring actress who had a non-speaking part in a film HW was involved in. Would it be unreasonable …
/r/MensRights31/12/17 03:11 AM
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"I AM NOT ANGRY!!!!" You sure fooled me. OP has serious doubts about feminism and came here in good faith seeking advice on where to find MRA info which does not contain the hating and generalisations she has noticed are so common on feminist and MRA sites. She was potentially a much-needed bridge to convey understanding of the MRM back to women and feminists but, appears to have found the interaction so unpleasant and unproductive that after being given some leads to other sites she has deleted…
/r/MensRights31/12/17 01:13 AM
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Feminists successfully lobbied for the FBI to change it's definition of rape a few years ago. They advocated a definition that excluded male victims of female rapists. Aside from the FBI's removal of gender from its rape definition, I believe the vast majority of states, if not all of them, removed gender from their rape law during the 90s or later. Here is the law from the conservative southern state of Idaho, for example. The first and last sentences are: 18-6101. Rape defined. Rape is defined…
/r/MensRights30/12/17 10:43 PM
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Female on male rape is collected under the NIBRS, and is reported as Rape in the UCR's Summary Reporting System. It is discussed at the very end of the 2014 letter about the new rape definition. Most states do not use NIBRS, and report directly in the UCR summary format. The FBI would presumably greatly prefer for states to all produce NIBRS data since it is much more detailed, but has no power to enforce it. One impediment to states implementing NIBRS is their own laws, which may be a bad fit w…
/r/MensRights30/12/17 08:17 PM
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Nobody was suggesting Weinstein be convicted by accusation alone, or convicted by anything except normal court procedures, if police ever find anything to charge him with. But Fiamengo seems to be saying that all the normal non-criminal social and business ways we reward and punish people should suddenly be blocked if someone has been accused of sexual crimes, and they are given an invincible shield which lasts for the rest of their life, unless they are convicted at some stage. That makes no se…
/r/MensRights30/12/17 05:55 AM
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This sub will feel like home for you I think: /r/RaisedByNarcissists There is a lot of info in the sidebar including diagnosis lists. There are a lot of people in your situation and you can learn from those who are further along in the recovery process. There is no such thing as full recovery but you can build a good life and a good self out of what you have.
/r/MensRights30/12/17 05:06 AM
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It is not a rhetorical question. Janice F is using Weinstein as the example and calling this a moral panic. Most people consider him to be guilty in general terms of outrageous abuse of power to get his dick into places it very obviously was extremely unwelcome, of being a horribly sleazy asshole, of sexual assault and quite possibly of rape, of terrorising a whole industry via blacklisting, lawzors and PR attack drones to enable his evil monkey business. This video seems clear to me to be sayin…
/r/MensRights30/12/17 04:25 AM
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So Weinstein should still have his job, and people should stop saying bad things about him? Or is that misreading what she said? I vote we all chip in to sent Harvey a freshman cheer team for a week as compensation for hurt feelings.
/r/MensRights30/12/17 02:08 AM
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I agree with your criticisms of feminism. I have not thought through LPS enough to support it, I am dubious. But I agree feminists are two-faced about the "just don't have sex" argument applied to LPS vs abortion. I don't oppose changes to make women's prisons more flexible to help preserve relationships with their kids (especially since fathers of women prisoner's children are often not able to provide an adequate home), and more focused on rehabilitation. But feminists provision of zero suppor…
/r/MensRights30/12/17 01:55 AM
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Should Harvey get his job and stream of nubile young aspiring actresses back? Janice F is saying it was mean to take them away from him without conviction in court, if I hear her right. Do you agree with her?
/r/MensRights30/12/17 01:17 AM
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Should Harvey get his job and stream of nubile young aspiring actresses back? It was mean to take them away from him without conviction in court. Do you agree with her? Damn, I'm starting to sound like /u/Aonome.
/r/MensRights30/12/17 01:17 AM
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Janice F is suggesting that Harvey Weinstein should be given back his job and be given power over the kind of desperately ambitious and vulnerable young women he is so infamous for allegedly abusing and even raping. He should continue to conduct interviews for life-changing jobs in his bathrobe after his assistants have disappeared, because no court ever found it to be illegal (and it is not illegal). He should stand strong against the moral panic mob, and be a beacon of principled strength in t…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 10:18 PM
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The potential for MeToo to devolve into low-quality news sites forcing themselves into the limelight by publishing increasingly weakly supported accusations has always existed and has been obvious to everyone from all sides all through the MeToo phenomenon, not just "the smarter feminists". The gutter press is defined partly by its willingness to publish weakly sourced material. Once that is done the better papers have a choice to report the emergence of the story as news itself, or more commonl…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 09:58 PM
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AEI were big on "smoking is harmless" which I believe was the start of the War On Science which became the template for global warming denialism. I have only read one article by CHS. It was on a subject I was familiar with and I felt her article was disingenuous. It was fine by ordinary standards but considering her intelligence and academic background there was too much weak reasoning and too much bias in the selection and interpretation of facts. There wasn't anything outrageous but it smelt s…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 09:22 PM
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My mother was absolutely terrifying and terrorizing and yet her approval and acceptance mattered more than anything to me. She threatened to not love me if I “sided” with my dad. She forced me be present every single time they were fighting (often violently) and to say the most awful stuff about him and to him. I felt so guilty. I hated every minute of it. And if I didn’t obey her she’d turn into the scariest person ever and I know she would not be able to love me. And so I obeyed. She still ema…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 04:54 PM
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Hoarding is one of many possible expressions of a chronic anxiety disorder. I'm going to give your mother an Internet diagnosis of NPD - Narcissistic Personality Disorder. That might not be right but she has some of the most prominent features. Let me guess: She never apologises. She never privately thinks she was wrong. She does not understand other people's needs. If she does, she does not consider them significant if they impede her own or require effort from her. She has an insatiable need f…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 04:23 PM
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Firestation abandonment is a strawman. Despite the often desperate circumstances women get into, its incidence in the real world is very, very close to zero. There are good reasons for that and if you don't understand them you are not ready to be discussing this subject. Babies given up for adoption are much more common but still quite rare. When it happens it is usually because the mother is incompetent or otherwise unable to look after the child, not because it is inconvenient to her. Again th…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 02:29 PM
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The academic career of both parties is potentially at risk since many people do not have funds to repeat a year. I agree universities do not have the skills to provide a fair high-stakes hearing of a rape case, there have been several well-publicised examples of terribly unfair hearings - denying legal representation to one side only, keeping the charges secret, even reversing the burden of proof in one famous example. And general incompetence and outrageous bias. Even if their hearings were exe…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 11:35 AM
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Have you ever raised a child? It is normally a joint project, or at least that is the intention. That has nothing to do with feminism, it is just what humans do. Likewise the decision for one partner to stay home, and the choice of which partner it is, is normally a joint decision. That is how families work, major decisions are shared or at least have a lot of consultation. I don't know what proportion of women set out to have a child on their own deliberately, it is quite low though. No partner…
/r/MensRights29/12/17 03:29 AM
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What you describe is the precise opposite of the situation on IMDB. I can't comment on your observations on other scoring sites but they do not apply to IMDB. Do what I said, look at the scores for a bunch of films. You will see scores follow a roughly normal distribution. 1/10 votes will be 2% or less for major films. An excess of 10/10 votes is often detectable for popular films. It is prominent for films which a niche community relates to e.g films from a country which is seldom seen on film,…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 11:48 PM
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Those two movies were not the first franchise movies to cause wailing and tearing out of hair among the devout followers. They were not the first to deliver substantially less than the hype had promised, if in fact they did. They were not the first "objectively bad" movies, or the first to get vitriolic criticism from many people. I'm not suggesting any of the above is true, I'm not a fan and don't have an opinion on either movie. But your comments are irrelevant and ignores the facts. The stuff…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:08 PM
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I've seen plenty of small businesses running fine without men. My ex GF owns one with half a dozen staff, she's dominated her field in this city for thirty years. There is also: A thriving local vet practice with about 6 staff. Smaller groups of about four lawyers, graphic designers, marketing people. Bigger businesses for hair stylists, prostitution.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 12:38 PM
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Mentioning Rotten Tomato's audience meter for Star Wars or any film the GamerGaters etc are attacking is taking part in vote sabotage yourself. As you say the voting details are obscured. We know the vote is being sabotaged but we don't know how much, so you are supporting the work of the saboteurs by promoting the downgraded score. IMDB shows its raw scores for males and females in several age groups, and the number of votes for each score from 1-10. As you can see it is popular with audiences,…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 08:12 AM
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The university does not have a choice but to be involved. It is required by law to offer equal opportunities to men and women. Sexual trauma happens, one way or another, not infrequently at that age. In severe cases the class or even the entire campus will be too small to contain the participants together. No matter what is done the fallout from sexual trauma is a stream of people leaving their class or accommodation or course or even the whole campus, abandoning their fees for the year and some…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 06:20 AM
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They exist. Mostly it is a bit of youthful exuberance, cured when they fall in love properly and especially when they raise a family. It can persist into adulthood but it is far less common than the more sane types.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 04:52 AM
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CP710 earlier provided this list of feminist organisations wanting women to register for Selective Service. http://www.servicewomen.org/swan-updates/swan-joins-coalition-to-influence-hascsasc-on-women-and-the-selective-service/ Alimony and child support are very much linked with the earnings gap, which is largely due to the career choices women make to accommodate childrearing. Child support is payable in every western country I know of, it is not going away. Alimony in the US is shrinking as wo…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 04:40 AM
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The draft argument is mostly symbolic from what I can see. The military has calculated the expected yield from drafted civilians. It is uneconomic to put large numbers of women through boot camp for the expected yield of IIRC 5% for infantry. In practice the combination of an unused symbolic draft and some discreet incentives might be a cheaper way to pull in the suitable women. I suspect the tradcons and Christians would be the biggest opposers of a draft for women. . I don't see LPS as a viabl…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 04:33 AM
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Yes this is an echo chamber but no worse than the feminist sites which I also frequent. Often it is better, there is quite a lot of diversity here because the MRM is far less mature than feminism. That is an interesting point about Dem support for the draft, but Tedesche is right that feminists very commonly sidestep the issue by saying nobody should be drafted. Support for women being drafted seems very patchy among feminists. It is more common for them to invoke female privilege or hide behind…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 02:37 AM
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Ha, if you think TwoXChromosomes is "extremist" then life has some nasty surprises in store. TwoX is not a feminist sub, it is for general women's stuff. I hung out there for a while years ago. Men are welcome so long as you understand you are a guest and know how to behave around women. The feminists there are very much mainstream, and it is not a place for discussing feminist theory. I agree feminists generally want the same opportunities as men. But since life is complicated and men and women…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:44 AM
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Is that what happens in practice, or are they allowed to leave?
/r/MensRights27/12/17 09:30 PM
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This level of actual punishment is where I think the Title IX process lost its way and became a monster. The minimal implementation is for it to be a way to deal with a problem preventing students from sharing something (a class, a course, an accommodation block, a campus maybe). The internal procedure was touted as being confidential, cheap, and fast enough to avoid wiping out a year of studies. But the university has taken on the role of a mini-court, handing out serious punishment ("Rapist" l…
/r/MensRights27/12/17 09:28 PM
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Whether the evidence was fairly judged on campus is a valid but separate question. It does not change the foolishness of OP's premise that the decisions of the campus investigation and a criminal court can be compared. In itself there is nothing even slightly suspicious about them being "different". I put that in quotes because considering what each decision actually says shows they are not things that can be compared in the first place, so it is incoherent to say they are "different".
/r/MensRights27/12/17 09:11 PM
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It is ridiculous and disingenuous to contrast the decisions reached on campus with that from the criminal trial. There is no reason for them to "agree". The university hearing did not presume to prove guilt. It was effectively a civil dispute settlement to decide which of them would leave campus, using the 51% evidence standard that is used for all civil disputes, including ones involving hundreds of millions of dollars. She won but that was not a claim he was guilty of a crime, just that it was…
/r/MensRights27/12/17 05:29 PM
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By "feminist movie critics", do you mean "movie critics"? I haven't seen it or most other Star Wars movies but the critics were pretty well agreed they liked this movie.
/r/MensRights27/12/17 05:09 PM
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Did you just pull that bit of information out of your ass? Feminists and female actors have been complaining about the lack of female villain roles for decades. You can call it two faced, I certainly do sometimes, but feminists identified the pedestal as a major problem back in the late 60s and have been consistent about that ever since.
/r/MensRights27/12/17 05:05 PM
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What makes you think feminists are behind this? It looks a lot more like lawyers to me, being ordered to avoid a repeat of the huge financial loss of having to suddenly terminate a $20M star employee after an expensive, upsetting and divisive investigation. I would like to see the actual policy, not a third hand account of it.
/r/MensRights27/12/17 04:49 PM
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Unlikely. We don't know there is a ban on relationships, just that some kind of relationships between some kinds of staff are to be reported in some circumstances. We don't know much. This is a third hand story that came via someone who likely does not understand the policy well and is just raging. In such cases it is routine for the person to exaggerate, misinterpret and confuse things.
/r/MensRights27/12/17 04:39 PM
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It looks like NBC's lawyers have been allowed to write the policy. Note the writer of the article has not read the policy. They are just quoting a third party who is upset and may have read it through a red mist of rage, misunderstood it and then misquoted it. It is normal for that to happen. Even so, some of this stuff is obviously excessively controlling by the standards of normal workplaces. But NBC isn't a normal workplace. It has $20M celebrity front-people as its main assets, and it costs …
/r/MensRights27/12/17 04:35 PM
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Normally posts are removed because you broke the rules. Which rule did the mod say you broke? "No criticising feminism" is not a rule. There is one about not posting to push an agenda. You should read each sub's rules carefully. I imagine each mod action against you is recorded and will sensitise them against you. Balls are irrelevant. Dakru did not create AskMen and is just one of 22 mods. He carries out the moderation policy of the sub. AskMen has three times as many users as MensRights. It is…
/r/MensRights27/12/17 03:06 PM
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Do you have a source for feminists getting a judge fired? If you are thinking of judge Anton Persky, there were 1.3 million signatures on a petition to have him recalled. There is no way to know what proportion of those were feminists. On December 19, 2016, the California Commission on Judicial Performance cleared Persky of any wrongdoing in the Turner sentence. The Santa Clara County Bar Association has released a statement saying that removing Persky would be a "threat to judicial independence…
/r/MensRights27/12/17 03:04 AM
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Of course those things are often relevant or even crucial. The judge is required to consider all that and report in detail the reasons for what is accepted or rejected. Lawyers from both teams are present and can make submissions on why evidence should be left in or out.
/r/MensRights26/12/17 12:26 AM
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That is the point of C-151 though, to extend the coverage of the shield. Remember the shield has never been an outright ban on bringing stuff up. It banned bringing up sexual history if it were only to support one of the "twin myths". If there was another point to raising it, that was permissible. When deciding on admissibility of evidence under the shield law the public and jury had to be excluded to prevent the defense from abusing the process. Back in 1992 and 1985 when the previous laws were…
/r/MensRights25/12/17 08:26 PM
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The change is an extension and updating of the rape shield law. I'm sorry, have been quoting a remembered news article. Either it or my memory was garbled. The existing shield law covers records of any form that have an expectation of privacy, so private electronic comms were already covered. The existing shield law banned records relating to sexual acts other than the one resulting in the charges being tried, unless admitted by a judge after a private hearing. C-151 does not extend that shield …
/r/MensRights25/12/17 05:29 PM
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Thanks, I added http://www.femalesexoffenders.org/resources to my reading list.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 01:47 AM
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Support forums select for those who believe they’ll get support from randoms on the internet. Natural selection, unfortunately. Seek and ye may find lifesaving support. I have seen it many times. It isn't randoms. It is people with a particular interest in each of the many mental illnesses we have forums for. Mostly people with that illness, with the extremely revealing exception of narcissistic personality disorder. I don't know about psychopaths, they like to lie low too but at least they know…
/r/MensRights25/12/17 01:41 AM
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The rape shield law is old (1992 in Canada) and is in force in all western countries AFAIK. The 1992 law specifies a pre-trial hearing to check whether evidence is permissible under the rape shield law. Here is an overview: https://yourlaws.ca/criminal-code-canada/276-evidence-complainant%E2%80%99s-sexual-activity Below is all from the actual legislation: ... evidence of sexual reputation, whether general or specific, is not admissible for the purpose of challenging or supporting the credibility…
/r/MensRights25/12/17 01:19 AM
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That is a weird article, it quotes a lawyer but it seems targeted at people who don't know the existing law and won't realise the allegedly terrible things he cites are the normal way things are done with other forms of communication. It is disingenuous to pretend this is something new. The only new thing regarding electronic communication is that its existence is now recognised by a law written before it was a thing. I'm not a lawyer and even I can see that trying to spin this (old) law into a …
/r/MensRights24/12/17 11:37 PM
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On-off sex can be life-changing or hardly anything, there are no rules. I've had two incidents which were technically rape and one in particular could flip some people out, but neither had the slightest harmful effect even temporarily and I wish my rapists well. A relationship is a whole different thing, it can be overwhelming and in childhood can block or distort critical developmental stages. Some of that is never fixable. The classic example is attachment, which happens in a window from 6 mon…
/r/MensRights24/12/17 10:16 PM
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I agree with most of that. Most people can deal with most things themselves, but some people need professional help. Not everything can be fixed or even patched up well enough to make remaining alive feasible, with any amount of help. I recently saw someone I'd been talking to for a year throw in the towel at 26. She'd had over half a million dollars of therapy from top docs and had tried every kind of psych med. This is the bit that set me off: I honestly highly doubt this 13 year old boy would…
/r/MensRights24/12/17 09:21 PM
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Do you understand how that law works? The existing Canadian law requires the defense to submit exculpatory evidence to a judge privately to be checked for relevance before it can be used in a trial. This is to limit (not prevent) the common practice of bullying the victim by exposing irrelevant parts of her sexual history to the drooling public. The updated law recognises the invention of electronic communications and their common use in relationships. The law designed for notes left on the pill…
/r/MensRights24/12/17 01:31 AM
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Whether a kid is fighting back at the time, or being passive while it happens rather than being an enthusiastic participant can make it a whole different thing. A worse or better thing, do you think? The answer is too complex to go into now and I'm not qualified to explain it but I think you would find some of it surprising. People who considered their relationship consensual at the time often report that as a major source of difficulty when trying to sort out any damage later. Partly it is taki…
/r/MensRights24/12/17 01:25 AM
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Folk who work with victims will tell you that the worst long term > outcomes occur when adult women molest adolescent boys. They will cite attitudes such as yours as a causal factor. And yet you persisted, based on nothing but your own experience and that of other underage boys you knew. You are aware you are unaware of what professionals in this field say about it, even after it has been quoted to you. I could introduce you to many who did and do have problems. So you now are not just having ex…
/r/MensRights23/12/17 11:06 PM
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That whole situation is a horrible mess, it isn't fair on suspects or victims. I think it was the Minister of Police who ordered more cases to be tried, which meant chasing cases that had a 45% or even 40% chance of conviction, I don't recall the exact target. Possibly those less certain cases require a lot more work. Anyway the relevant departments are obviously severely underfunded. That usually causes desperate attempts to fix things by setting targets, which usually creates perverse incentiv…
/r/MensRights23/12/17 10:35 PM
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I've been raped twice by women and didn't even notice until decades later when it was pointed out to me by a member of the Feminist Rape Industry. There was potential for trauma but as it happens I don't care a toot. One was confusing, another was funny and charming in the end. Maybe you were traumatised enough to "know what it's like". Some men are. It is remarkable how closely the symptoms of male and female victims match. I have also seen men grandstanding, trying to whip up their temporary e…
/r/MensRights23/12/17 03:13 AM
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My understanding is the vast majority of false rape accusations do not involve long term partners. Lists of cases I've seen all seemed to be silly kids doing kid drama, making excuses to parents or for infidelity or being malicious little shits, lying to preserve their reputation and then that accusation getting repeated to police by someone and them getting trapped in lies. That is why there must always be a clear easy path for accusers to back out of an accusation early on, to stop the damage …
/r/MensRights22/12/17 11:12 PM
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the conviction rate for rape throughout the western world is very roughly 50%. It is to some extent a political decison. The UK govt have pushed to get more rape convictions. They they can't affect the courts much so they asked police to prosecute more cases. Police had historically prosecuted where they had a 50% chance of getting a conviction, then that was lowered to 45% or even 40%, I don't recall. So more convictions are obtained, but the extras also: Dragged a higher proportion of guys thr…
/r/MensRights22/12/17 12:14 AM
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What court processes? You know rape is pretty much never convicted, right? And sexual assault even less so? And a lot of the allegations are about behaviour which was not even illegal? The audio tape which for many people would have sunk his career pretty much on its own does not contain any illegal behaviour, and the previous sexual assault he admits to on it is considered unprosecutable by the police. I read there are investigations but it wouldn't be surprising if Weinstein is never even char…
/r/MensRights20/12/17 09:31 PM
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I get plenty of downvotes, and upvotes less frequently. I can't believe anyone requires balls to downvote. Being an optimistic chap I'm going to assume people saw I'd linked Driver's article as well as the OP article linked, didn't read or didn't finish them both, and have the maturity to not vote or comment on something they haven't read.
/r/MensRights20/12/17 09:19 PM
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Most Hollywood men realised early on that there was little ground on which they could speak without getting attacked from one side or another, and possibly multiple ways at once. Being attacked for saying nothing is maybe the safest route. I don't think that is a bad thing at all. Women have long reported their experience of the field of sexual harassment and abuse is that there is no safe ground, whatever they say or do will cause problems one way or another. The current discomfort some men fee…
/r/MensRights20/12/17 12:49 PM
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Nobody needed to have it explained to them there is a spectrum of severity, or that things of apparently very different severity have been put in the same basket. Some of the complaints about Weinstein would not be news on their own, for example. Given that nearly every woman in Hollywood has personal experience of the problem it is unhelpful for a prominent man with no experience to stand up and start delineating a spectrum of abuse, giving examples of his manly opinion on where the low end of …
/r/MensRights20/12/17 12:28 PM
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MensRights is extremely biased in who turns up here. That isn't a criticism, it is just the nature of a MRA forum. It is obvious why men abused by their mothers will sometimes turn into MRAs. I imagine those abused by their fathers are less likely to do so, and they have less reason to mention it here even if they are MRA. They mention that kind of thing plenty in places like this. You could do a survey and ask how many here were sexually abused by their mothers, and by their fathers. I've seen …
/r/MensRights20/12/17 04:51 AM
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I guess it is the special genius of MGTOW to look at normal people doing normal human stuff, falling in love and fucking and fighting, and to conclude that men are unwanted (except for money and status).
/r/MensRights20/12/17 04:43 AM
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You want Weinstein's accusers to be thrown out of the industry?
/r/MensRights20/12/17 04:36 AM
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I've not seen any suggestion his career should be affected from any prominent feminist. Random loonies don't count. He hasn't done anything particularly bad, it is just being pointed out that right now is not a good time for him to be flooding the airwaves with uninformed opinions on an extremely sensitive subject he is not in a position to understand well. Minnie Driver's angry rant explained the problem pretty well. He should have noticed the outpouring of anger since this started and realised…
/r/MensRights20/12/17 04:30 AM
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I wonder if Damon is being used as a "good guy" frontman by people trying to shut down MeToo. From the #Damonsplaining article: he made, in the space of three days, multiple boneheaded comments on sexual harassment. At some point between these tone-deaf interventions his Good Will Hunting co-star (and a former girlfriend), Minnie Driver, helpfully pointed out where he was going wrong: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/16/minnie-driver-matt-damon-men-cannot-understand-abuse ... And yet, i…
/r/MensRights20/12/17 04:21 AM
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Of the 136 cases of sexual assault 8 (5.9%) were coded as false reports Of course I didn't read the source; neither did the researchers. "Coded as false" can in theory mean a few things, and in practice can mean an even wider range of things. They measured what police coded as false, they did not attempt to measure falsity or the level of provability themselves. 6% is a plausible rate for total false accusations and is consistent with many other studies. It would be weird to quote only an indivi…
/r/MensRights20/12/17 12:44 AM
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Matt Damon isn't on his knees is he? He's still regarded as a good guy, he's just been roundly told off for doing the thing which doesn't exist so I can't write it, notably by his ex Minnie Driver who started her diatribe by describing him as a good man: “If good men like Matt Damon are thinking like that then we’re in a lot of fucking trouble. We need good intelligent men to say this is all bad across the board, condemn it all and start again.” Driver argued that men should not be granted the p…
/r/MensRights19/12/17 10:45 PM
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Age didn't protect the senior George Bush from being spanked by feminists for serial butt-fondling from his wheelchair.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 10:27 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights19/12/17 10:23 PM
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"Innocent until proven guilty" applies to criminal trials, it prevents the state from imposing criminal penalties without proving a case in court. It does not typically apply to the rest of life, and suggesting that it should do is choosing to side with abusers and give them an almost invulnerable shield. There is practically never evidence to the criminal standard in rape / sexual assault / sexual harassment cases. "Beyond reasonable doubt" is sometimes expressed as having a 1% or 2% chance of …
/r/MensRights19/12/17 10:19 PM
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Who is pushing interracial marriage? Do you interpret not getting upset about it as "pushing"? In that case you left out UK, NZ from your list of the western world, just from my knowledge. How about Eastern Europe and the former Soviet states, and the various South American countries?
/r/MensRights19/12/17 09:02 PM
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Insanely editorialised titles are a tradition on here. A bad one IMO.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 08:54 PM
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Dr Seuss wrote The Star Bellied Sneeches about this.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 08:48 PM
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5% - 8% is an estimate of the total false report rate, not the individually provable rate. The total false accusation rate is commonly cited as lying somewhere within the bounds of 2% - 8%. The lower bound 2% is the individually provable false rate, those that can be individually proven in court. There are also many false reports which are not individually provable, but we can only guess at the ratio. I reckon they must be at least as numerous as provable ones, which would put the real false rep…
/r/MensRights19/12/17 11:04 AM
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I can't believe that abuse by a mother is so much more shameful to men than by a father, and that it is so much they are nearly all inhibited from mentioning it on a throwaway account on an anonymous forum. Certainly only a small proportion of men are on Reddit support forums, but why would their ratio of male/female abuse be different? I often see men revealing all sorts of embarrassing stuff, that is one of the great things about Reddit.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 08:27 AM
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"Wasting police time" is I think the commonest charge for false complainants. Perjury is more serious and I imagine harder to prove but it does get prosecuted. False complaint is the hardest to prosecute because perjury does not necessarily prove the complaint was false. Police are reluctant to prosecute false complaint without a case that is rock solid to the public and fairly sure to win in court.
/r/MensRights18/12/17 10:59 PM
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The problem with prosecuting false reports is that, just like rape, they can very seldom be proved. The Victoria study found two percent of rapes reported to police were regarded as provably false to the level where they were either prosecuted or they threatened prosecution if the allegation was not withdrawn. That is consistent with the UK CPS and another major study which found 1.5% and 1.3% provably or proved false. Inconsistencies in the story are common in genuine cases including in rape ca…
/r/MensRights18/12/17 10:50 PM
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Of course it is the mother's fault. But there is no way the consequences of it being revealed can be confined to the mother. The combination of my father's infidelity and his wife's, and the sort of abortion laws the US is heading towards led to him having children to three mothers simultaneously, creating a mess that will take generations to fix. It is implicated in two suicides, a terminal alcoholic, a bunch of near-poverty and more. DNA testing would not have helped there, but neither would a…
/r/MensRights18/12/17 09:39 PM
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From what I've seen in 3 years on our suicide support forum, men and women often report abusive parents. Most often narcissists, with a noticeable excess of mothers. Men and women report sexual abuse by their various parties including a significant proportion of fathers and a tiny proportion of mothers. So either mothers don't sexually abuse their kids much, or it very seldom makes them suicidal. . There is information from people in less desperate situations. Victims of childhood sexual abuse c…
/r/MensRights18/12/17 12:53 AM
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I agree. College investigations can have so much at stake, it was a mistake to reduce the required evidence standard to 51%.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 11:39 PM
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False accusations happen but this advert does not advance our knowledge. The advert is made to attract men accused of rape to his legal service, and his claims are not sourced. Anecdotes by an advertiser are not a credible source.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 10:30 PM
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As I understand it patriarchy involves men making the rules and inheriting their parents' assets, thus ending up in control of most things. That doesn't mean men set out to bias everything in men's favour, even within their own class. It certainly doesn't mean that when ruling class men make rules for lower classes they will try to set up a bias to favour men.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 10:02 PM
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As in Japan the law is a lot older than that. DNA testing does prevent false accusation but that is all, it isn't a magic fix. For a start it is not normally done. If done, it is not normally done at birth, it is done later when family resemblance is clearer. By then the child is bonded with their siblings, (step)father, mother and the rest of the family. DNA testing at birth avoids that but you can't force people to hear their results, so an active choice must be made. The decision is much simp…
/r/MensRights17/12/17 07:03 PM
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"I have suffered from panic since the age of 7". That doesn't sound like later reinterpretation by an over-enthusiastic therapist, that sounds like trauma from being repeatedly and persistently held down by a kid more than twice his age.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 06:05 PM
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It isn't necessarily a pussy pass. A man convicted of sex with a 14 year old girl would not be considered an unfit father for his own child. There certainly is a bias toward mothers being seen as the natural carers of children but with genders reversed I imagine the court would probably have seen it the same way. The father was able to support himself, but he probably would not have been able to work and look after a young child on his own.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 05:54 PM
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If he has money. That would create a huge risk for false accusation too, since there are all sorts of reasons why the woman might not want to correctly identify the father.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 05:44 PM
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A Title IX hearing and a criminal trial are very different things with completely different goals, or at least they should be. The original purpose of Title IX was to create equality of opportunity for both genders at university. Procedures are meant to be quick, cheap, confidential. My impression is various parties have decided to misuse Title IX rape investigations, expanding them to try and make up for the fact that rape can very seldom be punished by the courts. The solution is to trim back …
/r/MensRights17/12/17 05:03 PM
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I'm interested in your parent's very dismissive attitude. It is common for parents to react inadequately and try to shut the conversation down - they may be embarrassed by the topic, feel guilty or attacked, have divided loyalties, be concerned about the family being split, have financial interests, be uncertain what to believe and not want to risk validating a false memory etc. But victims often cite parents' disbelief or minimising as being very harmful to them. Did they have an invalidating p…
/r/MensRights17/12/17 11:43 AM
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I agree childhood experimentation is very common and not necessarily harmful at all. And being a victim can develop into an identity and a lifestyle in an unhealthy way that ends up impeding recovery. And forgiveness is hugely powerful when if you can do it. Some can, some can't and it just makes it worse if they feel guilty about that. But. OP and HeForeverBleeds also have PTSD and severe panic disorder and problems relating to the abuse. . As far as I know at least the first two of those can n…
/r/MensRights17/12/17 08:57 AM
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I read the same principle is used in Muslim law to preserve social stability and give each child a family. A man can not choose which of his wife's children he recognises. He can divorce, or else shut up and be a good father. It makes sense in that society given the lack of other options.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 05:35 AM
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His father was young, powerless and penniless. He dropped out of school at 15 to care for OP as a baby. On paper there is no contest, also he left the family home. There may have been a dominance relationship too, so he could not stand up to the mother. A woman who could have sex with a 14 year old boy is not exactly a role model but that would not raise any big questions about her being safe with her own child, even later after puberty.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 05:09 AM
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Serious question. Food costs money, even if you can sleep in an unoccupied building. Any kind of homeless shelter will immediately turn minors over to the police, who will take them straight back home in almost 100% of cases I have read about. I talk to suicidal and severely abused kids online, they sometimes are thinking about running away from home, but so far they have all been 14-17. In some countries 16 yo kids can get govt support if they are estranged from parents. Otherwise it is extreme…
/r/MensRights17/12/17 04:54 AM
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Please delete your comment and any tweets immediately unless you have OP's consent. This sort of thing can result in a flood of abusive PMs to OP and replication on other sites. That can attract people who recognise OP from the details (the combination of several dates and ages and the story is effectively unique). Because sexual crimes are all about violations of consent, victims are often left super-sensitive about consent issues. This is a handy life tip for anyone to be aware of, both so you…
/r/MensRights17/12/17 04:14 AM
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Cosmo aims to stroke and reflect the values of its readers, that is generally how lifestyle magazines work. That might explain why I've never been with a Cosmo reader. On one girl's weekend I went on someone bought a Cosmo at the gas station as if it were a Playboy or something. So I guess a lot of readers don't take it seriously.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 03:37 AM
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Which feminists? The feminists I know are mostly married with children or hope to be one day. The family unit is very much their goal. If your quotes come from the radfems of the 70s and 80s (it sounds like you have been browsing Dworkin memes) remember rad fems lost the sex wars of the 1980s and were left behind by the mainstream.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 03:28 AM
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Were your blowjob skills good enough to earn a living? Where would would you find customers, as a pre-puberty boy? That is a very specialised market and the established dealers are not nice people.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 02:26 AM
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Statistics are always hard for women's sexual offending. Police & court statistics are easy to find but worthless for comparison because of strong biases at most of the many steps between offending and sentencing. There is a program in the US to collect data from "sentinels", people in jobs where they get to know about reports of child abuse. That data avoids most of the biases which occur in court and in policing, but it will still have some big biases from earlier stages. Surveys which sample …
/r/MensRights17/12/17 02:10 AM
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Feminists understand about not tone policing women with a traumatic past, but they haven't quite made the connection that men traumatised by women can end up with the same rabid hatred as they tolerate in their fellow women, and that you can't fix it by calling them disparaging names.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 01:31 AM
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I just dropped in a couple of times. It used to be more like ILoveSeeingWomenGetBeaten, it was a form of porn for Incels and MGTOWs.
/r/MensRights17/12/17 01:23 AM
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Your mother died around 2003, that is about ten years after the huge childcare ritual abuse moral panic ended - I think the last huge case was 1993 or so. If the photos did not clearly identify other women as abusers and you told police "There were dozens if not hundreds of different women who my mother would bring over" and said they mostly had their own boys who were abused then untrained police would have found it easy to dismiss you as an unreliable witness, even though at 12 you were far ol…
/r/MensRights17/12/17 01:06 AM
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Wow, that seems way too aggressive just to teach some random dick a lesson in how professional services work. Unless he was not random, but she didn't say that.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 10:28 PM
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That article can be improved by adding AND WOMEN a dozen times, then cutting out the bits which no longer have a point. One of the most important things that has come out of Hollygate is that enablers are crucial to industrial-scale abusers, and that enabling is a gender-neutral thing. The determined erasure of female enablers is bizarre and wrecked what could have been a good article. There is a place for addressing men specifically but the subject of bystanders is not it. Weinstein literally h…
/r/MensRights16/12/17 09:39 PM
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We already have a thread to discuss Cosmo's title and picture, so this thread is for people who like to read the words in articles before discussing them (the article is linked). I don't know how much this is relevant to MensRights but if it is going to be here it might as well be done right. Esther Perel is a family systems psychotherapist who explored freedom vs security in Mating in Captivity and is an expert on infidelity. Here's her TED talk on the subject. https://www.ted.com/talks/esther_…
/r/MensRights16/12/17 07:49 PM
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So what are the eight reasons? You didn't link the text, so is the title just outrage porn to get us in the mood for a circlejerk? Screw that, let's discuss the picture: Black haired woman is twisting her own arm up behind her back to compel herself to cheat. She seems to have her whole other forearm down blondie's skirt while blondie looks away in ecstasy or awkwardness or maybe that's a bit too much arm for such a skinny wee thing and Blackie should be paying more attention. From his smile Bob…
/r/MensRights16/12/17 06:02 PM
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No she shouldn't have posted the pic either, someone who knew him might have recognised it. She should have cut his head and dick off.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 05:41 PM
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One of the awful things about your story is that without her death you would have been stuck with her for probably another couple of years at least. Where I live the wishes of a 14 year old about where they want to live are given a lot of weight by the family court. Your experience of people disbelieving you because it was your mother is unfortunately pretty normal. True pedophilia is enormously more common in men but when it does happen in women their victims have much greater difficulty being …
/r/MensRights16/12/17 05:34 PM
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I dunno the law but morally I reckon it is.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 03:14 PM
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Was the guy's username hidden by her, or by you? Trying to get something out of a sex worker without paying is disrespectful and irritating, he might be well deserving of punishment. But then he might just be a dork who doesn't realise how things work. Publishing his ID, if she did, is going too far.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 02:59 PM
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Nothing you wrote is relevant to this post. The facts are she does charge for her pix and for giving her opinions on pix sent to her. The issue raised is whether it was OK to publish this guy's pic.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 02:52 PM
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No, the whole scenario is hypothetical. There is not survey.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 02:58 AM
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I can't see how this can be described as part of MeToo. Describing Schumer as the target is highly debatable. The obviously fake allegation named him, but that does not make him the real target. There was never the slightest possibility the mainstream media could have been fooled into picking it up. The document doesn't stand up to examination (no lawyer's name is obvious fake) and the alleged complainant vehemently contradicts the document. The only possible spreaders of the fake story are the …
/r/MensRights16/12/17 02:45 AM
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They can if they can provide evidence that reaches the 51% standard of being more likely than not, since it would be a civil not a criminal court. That happens occasionally. Usually they just present the evidence to the other side and they agree to withdraw the allegation, pay a settlement and agree to confidentiality.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 01:00 AM
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I like the MGTOW idea of saying "no thanks" to the consumerist hamster wheel and just earning enough to follow your own interests.
/r/MensRights14/12/17 01:50 PM
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A single incident of a 17yo actress getting groped on a flight in one of the biggest countries on Earth, and a gay conductor in an orchestra accused of molesting a few boys. That is not exactly "everybody". If there were a score of people from the classical music world and a hundred airline passenger complaints like the one above, that would not be suspiciously high figures. There's a whole lotta groping goin' on. And thousands of young boys getting fucked in the ass by men older than their fath…
/r/MensRights14/12/17 01:36 PM
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"What universe does the writer of this article live in?" is exactly the question many women have been wishing men would consider for decades. Ask some sixty year old women how old they were when they first became aware of men's sexual interest in them. They might recall being 11 or 12 and having adult men leering at their emerging breasts, sometimes with comments. This does not fit most definitions of assault, but inappropriate sexual behaviour with children which makes such an impact the memory…
/r/MensRights14/12/17 01:19 PM
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There has never been an estimate of 1 in 3 women being raped while at university, let alone on while on campus. Here is a 1 in 4 figure, for sexual assault (including a much smaller proportion of rapes) during undergraduate years only: "Among undergraduate students, 23.1% of females and 5.4% of males experience rape or sexual assault through physical force, violence, or incapacitation". Source: Report on the AAU Campus Climate Survey on Sexual Assault and Sexual Misconduct, by Cantor & Fisher et…
/r/MensRights14/12/17 12:54 PM
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feminists (#notAllFeminists) almost always use the lower percentage of 2%. 2% is the provably false rate, confirmed in three major studies on different continents. Historically it is also the rate quoted by Susan Brownmiller in her 1975 book on rape, though I don't recall if she labeled it as the provable rate. That detail matters. The true rate is unknown but in the Victoria study police estimated the true rate was three times higher. Anyway feminists did for a long time, and sometimes still do…
/r/MensRights14/12/17 07:42 AM
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A normal thing to say is "I wish summer would come back", which is infinitely more terrible than a curfew on men. We could cope with a curfew on everyone, a curfew on just men would be even easier. But when saying these normal things we are not really wishing for them. I don't really want the summer to come back. I'm just missing it. A child does not really want the school to burn down on Monday morning, they just want to stay in bed for a while. I don't really want all the annoying vegans turne…
/r/MensRights13/12/17 11:12 PM
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I am old and have never given a moment of thought to false accusation of myself. Here is what worked for me. I have been around some crazy feminists but my close friends and lovers were mainstream if they were feminist. Most of my friends are women and I like individuals more than groups so I am always breaking the Pence rule. I like drinking but don't mix it with sex much, especially with a new partner. For the first time I like us to both be sober or close to it. All my lovers come from real l…
/r/MensRights13/12/17 07:20 PM
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All the OP picture is saying is that it would be nice for women to go out at night and feel safe from attack by men. That's all. I can't say it any plainer than that. Imagine it is autumn, cold and wet. You say "I wish summer would come back". Your annoying friends say you are wishing for crop failure, ecological catastrophe, mass starvation. They spend some time pondering the implications, how the effects would play out. After a while you realise it is not just and academic discussion, they are…
/r/MensRights13/12/17 07:32 AM
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I have not seen mention of McDowell's outrageous rehash of a study done on 1970s & 1980s US Air Force data by any reputable expert other than to rubbish it. For that matter I have not come across anyone who has actually read the original study or who can supply a copy of it, and I have looked. This puts McDowell in a similar position to Susan Brownmiller, who in 1976 quoted a secondary source. The primary source (by the NY rape squad) is not findable now. I did come across a forum exchange betwe…
/r/MensRights13/12/17 07:19 AM
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Men and women are not the same and racial groups don't have the same context. Ignoring real differences is not "treating them equally".
/r/MensRights13/12/17 02:44 AM
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Learn how to be a decent person? It works for most of us. Part of being decent is that when someone says they have a problem, you listen. You don't jump to assuming everything you and your buddies do is OK. You don't try to work it out with your buddies, because the only possible outcome from that process is that you and they are fine, and the person with the complaint is at fault.
/r/MensRights13/12/17 02:42 AM
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That is an impressive and informative looking comment, but it is off the point. I'm aware of big differences in women's sentencing and would not be at all surprised to find gender bias plays a significant part. I have not looked into it in detail because I don't see it as much of a men's rights issue. With some obvious exceptions I don't see how women getting lighter sentences hurts men much compared to, say, the crazy long sentences and cumulative sentencing and plea-bargain bullying that goes …
/r/MensRights13/12/17 12:54 AM
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The 2-8% figure on false rape accusations isn't realistic as those numbers are only proven false IN COURT No. I have read several studies on false rape accusations, that is not how they work. I have seen the main studies done on this and I don't know of any that have even attempted to study false accusations proven false in court. There would be no statistics normally kept on that because courts are not in the business of proving accusations false. All the court is concerned with is whether the …
/r/MensRights12/12/17 07:56 AM
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Judges are required by law to consider all relevant aggravating and mitigating circumstances when deciding a sentence, and these factors are not gendered. It is very common for men to escape jail because of mitigating circumstances, and care of children is a powerful one if no other suitable parent is available. Judges know how dangerous the fostering system is, and how dangerous the children hurt by it are. They see them every week. The original sentence was outrageously short - possibly that w…
/r/MensRights12/12/17 06:06 AM
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Wait, are we launching a campaign against women flirting with men at work? A real one or a joke / tactical political one? Is that really something we want? Your comparison of flirting with sexual harassment suggests you haven't read much about sexual harassment except scare stories. Look up some policies, there are plenty of examples available from HR advice sites and there will be threads on it on Reddit, we must have a HR sub. Ask a range of women how they see the difference, since they are th…
/r/MensRights12/12/17 02:05 AM
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IT IS NOT A PROPOSAL FOR A CURFEW!!!! It is bizarre that people here can't see that. OK, we would expect to have more than our share of autists here even before /Incels got itself shut down. But most people have learned English at high school and can name a bunch of non-literal techniques we use: Metaphor, simile, hyperbole, irony, allegory, parable, parody, devil's advocate, surrealistic storytelling, crazy ranting, gonzo techniques, stream of consciousness, random cutups as used by Gysin & Bur…
/r/MensRights12/12/17 01:55 AM
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15% of women have slept with their superiors Source? It must be much more common in some sectors but I've only been aware of a couple of cases. MeToo is not about flirting or "making a move". It is about sexual harassment and sexual assault. To repeat the feminist saying, if you don't know the difference then FFS stop "flirting". If there is a risk it will be taken the wrong way then don't take that risk with someone who is forced to see you at work every day. It isn't a dating site where you ca…
/r/MensRights11/12/17 10:54 PM
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Reading comprehension is atrocious on this sub. All the OP picture is saying is that it would be nice for women to go out at night and feel safe from attack by men. That's all. It is not a proposal for a curfew or for anything else, just an expression of regret for something many women don't have. Responses here are full of hypocrisy and denialism. We can't say feminists are putting women in danger by opposing the teaching of sensible responsible behaviour such as not walking alone at night, and…
/r/MensRights11/12/17 10:39 PM
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In Appalachia people can't afford bicycles to go to the police station to report crime. And the police can't afford pencils to record it.
/r/MensRights11/12/17 10:18 PM
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You can't link to any women's sub from MRM subs, that is an auto-ban offense. NP links don't make it OK, they just don't want brigades from here. For that matter I think they might ban linking to them from anywhere, it might not be specific to MRM subs.
/r/MensRights11/12/17 10:12 PM
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Should we wait for conviction before hanging her? I don't think rape should be part of the jail experience. If rape is wrong then doing it to prisoners is hard to justify.
/r/MensRights11/12/17 09:50 AM
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She is in Darwin, Australia. The website is in her homeland of South Korea. Korean feminists can get pretty wild, which is unsurprising considering Korean men. The society was agrarian not long ago, it has modernised extremely fast and social customs have not kept up with the technology changes. For example inheritance traditionally goes to the eldest son and his family, who provide for younger male siblings. Women who have married get nothing. The sex ratio is screwed because of selective abort…
/r/MensRights11/12/17 09:42 AM
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I agree moral panics cause a lot of damage - I saw a 100% bogus 1980s childcare sexual abuse panic tear a city apart and turn ordinary men into suspects. It got so crazy they decided four women must also have been complicit at one stage. So far it seems to me the bulk of MeToo cases picked up by mainstream media are reasonably well supported though. There was one with a radio host that we don't have enough info to judge. Whether that will continue until the news cycle tires of the subject, or wh…
/r/MensRights11/12/17 08:36 AM
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Sue who? All charities target who they help. There are charities just for men. And women, cats, dogs, ex-seamen, refugees from specific churches, whatever. You have no grounds for a complaint. Also your headline bites balls, which is why most people won't even click on it.
/r/MensRights11/12/17 06:30 AM
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I imagine you are right. It is an old and obvious idea but no country in the world has even seriously considered it AFAIK. That suggests it is fundamentally flawed.
/r/MensRights11/12/17 06:11 AM
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"Actually, it is all about ethics in gaming journalism" is understood as a parody by everybody outside GG so far as I'm aware. One part of the joke is the claim that the game reviewing racket is "journalism". Another funny part is the claim that ethics is a subject dear to the heart of GG, when discussion of ethics is not exactly the most prominent thing when one looks at discussions within GG. Another plank to the joke is that the availability of reviews biased some way on some sites matters, w…
/r/MensRights11/12/17 04:53 AM
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A nice easy first step could be the issue of liability when a DNA test proves the guy on the birth certificate is not the father. I imagine many or most of these cases would require govt assistance to resolve since a common reason for paternity fraud is the desire by a woman to upgrade from a father with poor financial prospects. If a bill to do that can not get support then it is a waste of effort to fight for a wider change.
/r/MensRights10/12/17 10:25 PM
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Legal paternal surrender is dependent on the govt paying the man's share in the large proportion of cases where the woman can't support herself. That makes it much harder to sell in the US than in other western countries. I think one of the Scandinavian political parties started a serious internal discussion on it and maybe made it a policy. Reading about their deliberations and the reaction to it might be instructive. If there are reasons it could not attract further interest even in a country …
/r/MensRights10/12/17 10:15 PM
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Scandals about musicians are often in the music section, it depends on the policy of the site. I don't know this site. The front page link referring to "The Voice contestant" might be for SEO. Or because they are contracted to or paid for putting a reference to The Voice on the front page, or it is a policy they have because Voice items get clicked. I imagine having a woman as the accused is extra juicy so I can't see what motive they would have for covering it up.
/r/MensRights09/12/17 12:46 PM
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Why doesn't she want Plan B? Does she not need it because she knows from the dates she is unlikely to be fertile? That would not be unusual. If the answere is yes, test it by asking what date her last period was and how the calculation is done. If she is pregnant, will she have an abortion? Is she sure? What does that cost, and who pays? When did her last period start? How long is her cycle? How regular is it? Does she record her period start dates? Many women do, for prediction or birth control…
/r/MensRights09/12/17 11:32 AM
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An editing party involving a whole class sounds a terrible way to improve the quality of Wikipedia. Research and revision is not a party thing, as described above by AxeOfWyndham. I'm sure the mods hate having to clean up the mess afterwards, at least it will be easy to find all the changes made at a specific time.
/r/MensRights09/12/17 05:57 AM
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As someone who often ends up defending feminist positions here I have to say it feels lonely, I don't see flocks of feminist trolls. My comments mostly don't get a single upvote, and when they do it is seldom controversial. The exception is if a post hits /All, I may get a flood of upvotes. Normal people (brainwashed hoi polloi) seem to appreciate my comments, which I find distressing.
/r/MensRights09/12/17 05:40 AM
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There are plenty of non-feminist news organisations who have written about Gamergate. Forbes and the WSJ for example are for people interested in business not feminism, and they have both covered it as I imagine have several major right-wing, traditionalist, quality news sites. There are quality religious - oriented news sites, I guess they are not naturally feminist. The Christian Science Monitor has an excellent reputation for quality. You could look for news from countries which tend to be an…
/r/MensRights09/12/17 05:32 AM
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It is appropriate for a general purpose encyclopedia to faithfully reflect the dominant viewpoint of academic specialists, on topics which have academic specialists. When people go to find out about the moon it is not appropriate for them to be offered theories about the moon not orbiting the Earth, never having been visited by humans, being hollow, having crazy shit happening on the side we don't see, or being an alien spacecraft. I'm sure there are entries on conspiracy theories but it would b…
/r/MensRights09/12/17 03:59 AM
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No, it would be insane for social justice to be applied exclusively to people not accused of illegal behaviour, and for accused people to be given an exemption from social justice. Most of the assholes that you have avoided socially or decided to avoid as a customer or in business have probably never been convicted of anything relating to the reasons you avoided them. You just got an unverified tip, or you decided their pattern of eye movements in conversation was not compatible with you putting…
/r/MensRights09/12/17 03:31 AM
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I see no comparison. In the ritual abuse mass hysteria of the late 1980s there were no adult first hand witnesses, it all came from toddlers and kids under 5 years old. We know what went wrong, that is why it stopped quickly. The last big case was in the early 1990s AFAIK.
/r/MensRights09/12/17 03:24 AM
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I'm glad you have preserved decorum by not telling us what the SJWs did with pineapples.
/r/MensRights09/12/17 02:06 AM
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I read a lot about this case at the time. Other students quoted by news papers convincingly portrayed her as a bullying shit who used her drug dealer to intimidate opponents and destroy evidence. Cocaine often turns people into absolute shits, also with her background of familial abuse she may have a cluster B personality disorder like narcissism or sociopathy. I imagine some of that evidence did not get presented to the court due to her habit of intimidating witnesses. I got the impression from…
/r/MensRights08/12/17 06:10 PM
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Lol, downvoted for knowing about the subject under discussion.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 05:44 PM
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I read the statute law on that offense. There are starting points given for sentencing, and a list of aggravating and mitigating circumstances which the judge must consider in deciding the final sentence. There is room for interpretation but the judge must give reasons for any deviations from the standard sentence. From memory there were no aggravating factors and she had all or nearly all mitigating factors in her favour. I imagine the judge had not seen the anonymous anecdotal evidence publish…
/r/MensRights08/12/17 05:42 PM
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Yes I agree feminists dance between "patriarchy" and "men" to suit so men are held accountable but not women. Ages ago we talked about feminism claiming to encompass men's issues at a time when I had never seen that. Now I have. I don't think it is a mainstream position so much as an opportunistic territory grab. Feminism is proposed to be the framework from within which all gender issues can be addressed. This is poorly thought through. Listing incidental, accidental benefits to men is fine. Bu…
/r/MensRights07/12/17 04:55 AM
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Ha, that's an apt quote from Karen Straughan. I agree feminists do tend to emotionally personify patriarchy as men, and are reluctant to blame women (victims) for their complicity. They see patriarchy as having been created purely by men in distant history when men held all the power. This Original Sin has been transmitted down through generations of women who were not to blame, and men who somehow were. Because they were thought to have a little more power to change it than women. I guess they …
/r/MensRights07/12/17 03:22 AM
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The OP was a misrepresentation of the linked article, like half of the headings on this sub. The award was for all the work she did raising awareness and money for DV charities, not because DV is primarily perpetrated against women. What is the relevance of the sex of her child that was killed? I guess he was killed because he was her child, not because he was male.
/r/MensRights06/12/17 08:12 PM
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Killing one's infant is inherently an extreme case isn't it? I can't think of many scenarios where a killing does not relate to stress. Insurance fraud (US only AFAIK). Pre-emptive execution of evil male by feminist hero. Psychotic long-term plan. Mercy killing. They all seem like rarities to me.
/r/MensRights06/12/17 05:18 PM
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Do you think it is OK for powerful people to request sex from job applicants? If they say no and walk out is everything OK? If they do that and are not blacklisted is everything OK?
/r/MensRights06/12/17 04:54 PM
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Female perps are not ignored. The idea that women's violence toward infants is ignored is a MRA fantasy. All professionals involved in that field understands women do most of it. (Many of those people are feminists BTW). News articles on the subject often mention it too. It sounds like you have not had sole charge of a difficult baby 24 x 7 with company / assistance only in the evenings and non-contact time per day measurable in minutes if that. You are in a different world after a few hours of …
/r/MensRights06/12/17 04:13 PM
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Feminists blame it on patriarchy not men. Patriarchy is a system transmitted and enforced by both women and men. In some areas much more by women, such as appearance. Feminists have plenty to say about that, but I don't see how the specific idea of arm vaginas is anything to do with feminism. It sounds more like a catchy phrase a publicist would come up with to get their client's picture in the news, like those "lesbian" kisses the publicists would get straight actresses to do at awards ceremoni…
/r/MensRights06/12/17 03:48 PM
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Is that relevant though? It isn't exactly uncommon for young women in Hollywood to be feminist, even for those few who somehow missed out on Weinstein's special gift from the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights06/12/17 03:41 PM
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Abusive relationships work similarly regardless of gender and physical strength. The dominant partner gradually reduces the victim's confidence in everything including their own judgment. It is a slow stepwise process. "Why didn't they just leave?" Well they would if they could see far enough down the path. But at the start everything seems fine, or they ignore what should be red flags or think they can fix the problem later. The abuser always isolates the victim, physically or mentally. Running…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 10:48 PM
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This is just normal women's appearance stuff driven by normal Hollywood attention seeking processes. Feminists are not driving this.
/r/MensRights05/12/17 10:21 PM
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The law assumes both partners' contribution to the marriage to be equal, so splits marital property equally at divorce. The reasoning is it is the court can not evaluate details of who contributed what to the marriage. The paychecks might be simple but evaluating the support a partner gives to the other to enable the earning of that paycheck is not. For example in a 90/10 split of housework, my impression is the 10% person usually thinks they do 30%. If children are involved it becomes enormousl…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 10:07 PM
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Children of that age are killed mainly by men. It is babies and I think toddlers which are killed more by women, who have overwhelmingly more contact hours. If you correct for contact hours men are far more dangerous to children of all ages. And that is just any contact hours. Lone contact hours when awake would show a much greater threat from men. Spreading the "women kill more babies" statistic is not just misleading and a stupid tactical error. The biggest problem is it is throwing children u…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 09:49 PM
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Certainly some women either submit to or even aggressively use sex to advance their careers. But to talk about that when the subject is sexual assault and sexual coercion looks like denialism to me, it is muddying the waters and shutting down the discussion. Same as the guys bleating about how they will never come within 6 feet of a woman at work again. The problem being highlighted is men standing in the way of women's careers, saying you can get past if you give me a kiss. How does it help to …
/r/MensRights05/12/17 09:15 PM
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Weinstein, Spacey and a hundred Hollywood casting-couchers are cold-blooded serial predators, not "poorly socially calibrated".
/r/MensRights05/12/17 08:54 PM
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treating females with mental illness for chemical dependence. It didn't mention anything about them being victims of rape or domestic violence. It didn't need to. Mentally ill women with drug dependence very commonly have a background of abuse of some kind. Often it starts with their parents and is non-sexual. They will then attract other abusers including rapists, and will vulnerable to developing abusive and violent relationships. The other thing is that abused girls and women can be very dang…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 12:43 PM
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Speaking as a grammar nazi, a literacy snob and even a feminist as regards sexual assault, I give Pam Anderson a pass. She seems genuine. She has personal experience of sexual abuse and rapes, and of Hollywood sleaze. I don't believe her intent is to blame victims. Here is her interview with Megyn Kelly, in two parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv5hTeWTLUo After that YT helpfully played an interview with Megyn Kelly talking about sexual harassment and more.
/r/MensRights05/12/17 12:02 PM
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"Any female over 16" does not go to a new city where the rules are unknown other than being hugely different to anything she's known, and interact with a man whose un-ironic nickname is "God", who can erase any hope of a career with a single ten second phone call. And who boasts about that fact, and is believed by everybody, because they know the stories of people who were made an example of. Do you think it is OK for powerful people to request sex from job applicants? If they say no and walk ou…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 09:14 AM
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They didn't all get million dollar gigs out of it, from Weinstein or his many of imitators. What we have been told by many women quoting their agents, who we must assume to know their job, is that what their silence bought was the hope they would not be blacklisted. That is all. This crap happens at all levels down to the schoolgirl applying for a zero hours casual weekend morning cleaning job at a shitty motel for minimum child-rate wage. In these situations it is blatant denialism to try to di…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 09:05 AM
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Sorry, that comment was for Weinstein not LCK. I stuck it in the wrong place, will delete it now.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 08:20 PM
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They were not invited to his room for drinks. They were invited for business meetings, with other women present. Then the other women would leave.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 03:11 PM
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He used female assistants to help victims feel secure. Then they would disappear.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 03:02 PM
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I read that and a few of her columns. She can be pretty funny but doesn't sound like the ideal mother. It might have been wiser for her not to have children.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 02:38 PM
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If it does, it is the worst possible time. Fashions come and go but sexual assault is very out of style right now.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 12:59 PM
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I can't see an appeal working. This smells like the work of Turner's dad. I'd like to think Brock is not such an asshole as to be driving this, regardless of what he did before. I also read most of the site, not including the trial transcripts. I read all the statements and had read the before. I didn't see anything from the EMT though. The site claims the EMT saw Doe vomit and clear her own airway. This does not fit with any other evidence about her state. She had been reported unconscious by w…
/r/MensRights04/12/17 12:27 PM
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Swedes yell "what are you doing"? Brock: "Making out with this awesome girl" (Looks to her for agreement). Doe (Sits up) "Yeah, we're fine but thanks. I just like playing dead sometimes". Swedes: "Sorry to bother you, we thought you were unconscious". They all laugh. Swedes exit stage left, Brock and Doe giggle and return to snogging. That scenario is played countless times all around the world every weekend.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 10:27 AM
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Beginner's luck, obviously.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 10:14 AM
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Apart from that there are all sorts of deep differences in male and female bodies, it would not be surprising if these affect immune response and survival too.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 09:29 AM
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The life behind a suicide is usually a tragedy but that doesn't mean the suicide itself is. Not everyone is rescuable even if they want to get better, and not everybody does. The bonds of family are not unbreakable. I talk with a lot of people who completely and permanently cut themselves off, and others who keep strictly limited contact. And a lot who want to kill themselves. The decision to interact, like the decision to remain alive, is ultimately one that everybody has to make for themselves…
/r/MensRights04/12/17 08:44 AM
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Were you planned? I wasn't. I'm sure it was a genuine accident though.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 10:21 AM
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He was not a boy, he was a man of 29. This gives a different perspective: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11749390/Author-Julie-Burchill-on-death-of-son-I-would-give-a-decade-off-my-life-to-have-him-back.html
/r/MensRights03/12/17 10:18 AM
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The voluntary diagnosis rate is known. It is a small fraction of the prevalence as estimated by other means e.g from diagnoses of compulsory psych patients and prisoners, and psychiatrist's records. Endogenous depression is a thing but my impression from our support subs is that a chronically suicidal 12 year old is most likely to be affected by a narcissistic parent or by extended or highly traumatic sexual abuse. Yes, narcissists are commonly unsuspected by school teachers and other profession…
/r/MensRights03/12/17 10:09 AM
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I'd love to have this confirmed. All I know about NPDs is from their severely damaged children who keep turning up on our suicide support sub. I have heard of almost zero cases of NPD parents in therapy or even being diagnosed unless incidentally.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 09:57 AM
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Feminism is far too tolerant of "venting" IMO. It is allowed because of a desire to be supportive of traumatised people. Feminists are reluctant to criticise each other over ideas because that wastes energy on infighting and promotes division. But that allows the people who get off on being original and different to come up with increasingly bizarre ideas, and some of those find acceptance for bad reasons e.g. they stroke people's egos. PUtting hipsters in charge of anything is a bad idea.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 09:52 AM
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Maybe you were stealthed?
/r/MensRights03/12/17 09:44 AM
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People who become ideological zealots of any kind often do so because they have a big hole in their life and they use the ideology to fill it. I think it is somewhat random which group she ends up with, she might have joined something else depending on which people or ideas happened to be in front of her when she was hungry. Possibly she was sexually traumatised while an air hostess, she wouldn't be the first. If she was lesbian all along then that and living in a straight marriage could easily …
/r/MensRights03/12/17 09:42 AM
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She is correct, and there is nothing wrong with writing about her own experience. Jack's father did the same in his eulogy at the funeral, which you could say is even more inappropriate. But I don't consider it inappropriate at all. Here's what he said: "But my mind played tricks on me, too. I lost sight of something precious: I lost sight of you. That mind of mine did the most awful trick: it hid the loveable you from me. It allowed your illness to take over and define you. You stopped being Ja…
/r/MensRights03/12/17 09:05 AM
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I'm familiar with your theory. I have been around feminists for nearly 40 years for better and worse, all the patriarchy and man-blaming victim theory is well familiar. I also have experience of how feminist mothers treat their male children (and male spouses and lovers and brothers and their father) in real life, and more recently online. It turns out that theory gets trumped by experience. The idea that feminists resent or deliberately mistreat their male children is a MRA fantasy. Sure there …
/r/MensRights03/12/17 08:47 AM
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The quote is not dated. It might be a bit of 80s female supremacism or it might just be some of the smart-assery she is famous for. It might be a pushback against the widespread old idea that women can't do job X because women are naturally inferior at that job. If you were not around in the 60s and 70s it is hard to imagine how hard men fought to maintain various myths of female incompetence to justify various fields not employing women.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 08:28 AM
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She is correct that there is a double standard. Although the great majority of men want involvement with their children, my wife was a social worker and they find a significant problem with fathers who failed to reliably arrange enough sober, rested time with their kids; or to pay their share of costs.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 05:57 AM
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How many feminist mothers are you close enough to to observe their parenting? My late feminist wife had a lot of feminist friends, it was common in her profession. She and those of her feminist friends who were mothers, were good mothers to their boys. They nearly all seemed to have boys somehow. Luckily her more whacko feminist friends didn't reproduce. Except one did, and I heard she became much saner as a result.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 05:35 AM
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My late feminist wife loved our boy deeply and was an excellent mother. He's a lovely chap.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 04:35 AM
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I don't need to identify as MRA, feminists yell it at me if I say anything which contradicts the ally script. Which is quite a lot, despite trying hard to not wind them up.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 04:19 AM
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Non-feminist fits most people. If she has engaged with feminism much and opposes it then anti-feminist. I'm sure people vary in where they put the dividing line.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 03:56 AM
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Feminists do not like to be reminded of it but non ironic female chauvinism was quite big among 2nd wave feminists. That is why I did not join them then despite being surrounded by feminists. I was a MRA before it was cool :-) I don't think she is really insulting male suicide victims though. She is just being a smartass, and insulting all men.
/r/MensRights02/12/17 10:24 AM
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All I know about this is from when someone I was following sought advice from the good people at /Drugs about taking large amounts of her benzo with alcohol. Several people cautioned that apart from the risk of death, "barring out" (at a moderate dose plus alcohol) has a significant risk of severely regrettable out-of-control, out-of-character behaviour - irretrievably lost friends, criminal charges.
/r/MensRights02/12/17 03:47 AM
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I looked up some minimum legal requirements: 1974 Sweden parental leave. (In Iraq women got full pay on maternity leave with an extensive system of state-subsidised nurseries. Women were said to get a better deal there than in the rest of the Middle East. That fell to bits due to the GW Bush administration's rampage after Sept 11). 1979 Australia, NZ: 26 weeks unpaid, women only. (NZ and Australia) 1987 NZ, 1990? Australia: 1 year unpaid, split as parents wish. 1988 All Euro states except UK had…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 11:41 PM
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Are you suggesting the proportion of women paying alimony is becoming larger than those receiving it, and women are deciding to oppose it because it is a net loss to women? I'm not in the US but I don't imagine that is the case.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 11:22 PM
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Is there even one person on Earth you can point to who thinks the aspects of climate change which predominantly affect women, trump the overall human effects? This whole thread is a bizarre reading comprehension fail. This UN project comes only after 30-40 years of considering the crisis nearly all in an ungendered way. The gendered effects of climate change will be large, but only because climate change is humungous. My prediction is that in the future if there is a civilisation capable of know…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 11:16 PM
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There are aspects of climate change which affect men more, we could talk about those. This Pentagon report from 2015 on the effect of global warming on military matters could be a starting point since the military is overwhelmingly male: http://archive.defense.gov/pubs/150724-congressional-report-on-national-implications-of-climate-change.pdf Or this report focusing on the high end of the predicted ranges: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans.html …
/r/MensRights01/12/17 09:19 PM
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The same is true of all groups. News sites can quantify how much their readers are more interested in news about their city, country, race, sex and species. We are more interested in the fate of primates than squids. The effect is much stronger for minority cultures. In a small country locally made films and TV drama get a much bigger audience than their quality alone would explain, because people want to see their own culture reflected on film.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 08:53 PM
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Discouraging procreation is exactly what is needed. Our population is already far more than is sustainable, and it will continue to overshoot to at least 9 billion (was 11b the latest estimate?). The world is in dire trouble from the carbon we have already released, but the rate of destruction can be reduced .
/r/MensRights01/12/17 08:05 PM
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The comment on contraception is accurate - any impediment to contraception causes climate change. Climate change is caused by the absolute population, not the growth rate. A dramatic slowdown in growth is still growth. The recent US pull out of support for global contraceptive availability programs, and the attempt to replace at least some of that support by other countries, will affect climate change. Men's and women's access to contraception are somewhat separate subjects so it is not weird to…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 07:53 PM
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To make it easier to understand they provided a picture. Fetching water is a crucial women-specific duty in some places. The title means climate change has some aspects more relevant to women. This thread could usefully be identifying and discussing aspects of climate change more relevant to our own sex, if it were not bogged down in whining about women doing so.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 07:21 PM
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In practice women can't get pregnant whenever they want. For the huge majority of women, they can try to get pregnant only when they have a suitable partner who is ready to have a child with them. Unless you count accidental pregnancies as an unfair benefit to women that men should be envious of, or perhaps compensated for. You make child rearing sound like the private project of individual women, with men suffering by not being eligible to participate in inflicting the harm the baby does to the…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 10:38 AM
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It is not healthy for our society for companies to be put in the position where employing women is a liability and men are the safe option. I agree that removing mention of gender for parental leave and allowing it to be shared is preferable. The US seems backward in that regard, I think most western countries have been doing it for a long time. In NZ we get 26 weeks paid parental leave which can be divided between parents as they wish. It is paid by the govt and equals their normal salary, up t…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 10:16 AM
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Divorce happens to most. In Florida alimony depends partly on the length of the marriage with none being payable unless the marriage lasts 7 years or more. This will be increased to 11 years. Is that typical for the US? It seems alimony is going out of fashion at least among younger people. From 2012: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristen-houghton/is-alimony-still-necessar_b_1542291.html
/r/MensRights01/12/17 08:00 AM
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It depends what the dismissal is for. Dismissing someone over a SH allegation then having that reversed in court with compensation is a significant embarrassment for the company. Regardless of the details much of the public will read that as the company having joined in with a false allegation, even if it was just a procedural mistake on their part.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 07:22 AM
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Where do you get 5x from? I have been seeing that figure a bit lately but only from MRAs. Australian MRAs take the cake though, they are currently claiming 21 men a week suicide over family court decisions and a desperate meat-head racist politician has taken them under her wing. A campaign has been started with "21" in the title. But the total national suicide rate is only six men a week! Fuck the US, you think you & Russia can monopolise the world's fake news supplies? Think again. /rant . The…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 03:58 AM
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None of them wanted you back after you sexed them? Sad.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 03:54 AM
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I agree. There are downsides to any change but I think the overall effect of these changes sounds beneficial.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 03:48 AM
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In the US I would use the historically typical position of the Republican and Democrat parties to define mainstream right and left wing. There are comparable situations in many other countries where two roughly equal parties dominate the polls, and I see that as a homeostasis which usefully defines the meaning of left and right in the context of that country as relative positions. As you say extremists will often claim there is no real choice, that the major parties are both left or both right. …
/r/MensRights01/12/17 02:48 AM
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People unusually sensitive to being touched can't expect people to read their minds but they can expect them to watch for and pay attention to their reactions. It isn't uncommon in both men and women. Autistic people are often sensitive for a start. If the person feels they have to go so far as to explicitly say they don't like being touched then that should be respected, rather than the offender launching a counter-attack blaming them for being "over-sensitive". Yes they are over sensitive, thi…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 02:22 AM
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Skirts and stockings have long been written into the employment contract at some companies and a lot more have informal rules about "appropriate presentation". Is it coincidence that these three women were all shown with a dress for this arranged shot? A man couldn't show that much skin in that picture. But wait, there's more. Socks, and fully enclosed shoes. And more. People don't actually wear their jackets all day at work when not being photographed. When the men take their jackets off they w…
/r/MensRights01/12/17 01:05 AM
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Win! I don't recall ever paying a cent for a woman's company, it would feel like prostitution and I would lose respect for her. That might be how I ended up being with with more than my share of feminists. I don't give high maintenance women a second glance.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 10:57 AM
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It is scary either way. Being done for unjustified dismissal in the context of a SH allegation is a PR disaster too. I would have thought they would do a discreet settlement with a NDA, that is usually what happens if they need to get rid of the guy. (Most often what happens is the woman leaves without even going to HR because regardless of the facts she does not want an SH accusation on her record, also she knows it is the junior party who is forced out in the normal case of no independent evid…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 10:48 AM
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One difference appears to be an update to the 25 year old rape shield laws to take account of the fact that texts, emails and video recordings of sex are now a thing. Before rape shield laws it was standard practice for the defense to introduce irrelevant sexual history into a trial to intimidate the complainant. The shield laws specified various forms of evidence which needed to be filtered by a judge in private to avoid this, but did not cover electronic communications. The new law will requir…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 10:31 AM
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Go to Italy. Asia Argento, one of Weinstein's initial accusers, says she gets no support in her home country of Italy. And the food is good.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 09:40 AM
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Businesses will get their asses sued if they fire every man accused. They need to be able to defend their decision in court.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 09:22 AM
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Stop paying for dates. That's one part of TRP I agree with.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 09:20 AM
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People who earn their living by ranting on Youtube are not a source. I'm just guessing that's what it was. I don't open unlabeled links any more. If you had identified it as a news clip, a TV doco or whatever I would have decided whether to watch it. But I read a lot faster than anyone talks so probably not.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 09:17 AM
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I wonder whether the company lawyers considered that possibility. He could easily show huge loss of income, and he has the money to put up a big fight including appeals.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 09:09 AM
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I haven't noticed feminists I've known to be short of male friends or lovers. I don't seek out feminists specifically but I've been pretty happy with the ones I've been with.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 08:51 AM
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If a workplace is too small for two employees to be able to work there and they can't decide between themselves which one should leave then HR has to decide. A lot of weight is traditionally given to which one is more valuable to the company. They also consider the effect on morale, and very importantly, the possibility of being sued. Apart from the law, that risk relates a lot to how much money they have for lawyers, and how much they have at stake. Since the guy's reputation is on the line and…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 08:45 AM
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The logical error of quietly switching the subject of arguments inappropriately between groups and individuals is something I've seen in feminism but I don't think it is any more common than in other ideologies. In this thread OP's argument is about a group, with an individual example. I don't believe I have mixed them up.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 08:33 AM
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good bot
/r/MensRights30/11/17 08:22 AM
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Women are the primary victims of men who, for a variety of reasons, don't want to be touched. /s I'm sorry those women were too wrapped up in their own feelings to consider yours.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 08:12 AM
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He says he reached up 6" under her shirt accidentally when patting her back to comfort her. How are men's clothing styles relevant? She's a woman. In the western world women typically are expected or even formally required to show a lot more skin in various contexts including work. She was covered. It is much more common for women's tops to not tuck in, compared to men's shirts. How this is supposed to work is that men don't reach up underneath.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 08:06 AM
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PR wasn't a consideration for us. In a summer we would see a few parties of hikers or the odd hunter, maybe a dozen people in 3 months. Other parts of the country were more populated. A fitness and particularly a strength test would be very easy to justify and implement, that would keep all but a few women out without creating legal or PR problems. There was endless justification e.g. river crossings were the commonest cause of death in earlier times there, and we did a lot of them. There could …
/r/MensRights30/11/17 07:23 AM
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I don't know what a Promise Keeper is but it would be wrong to start applying that label to anyone who makes promises and keeps them, because that phrase is already in use with a more specific meaning. Certainly 3rd wave feminism is feminism, and it can fairly be described as radical in comparison to non-feminist thought. "Radical feminist" is a specific label in use since the early 1960s, to distinguish those feminists who propose a deeper reform of society from those who proposed to keep the m…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 07:02 AM
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The wrongness was about feminists being primarily motivated by money, and about being prepared to hurt their own children's future by cynically writing "I hate men" stuff to earn money. And about Clementine Ford being labeled a radical feminist. Yes she is a feminist. Yes her opinions can fairly be described as radical, in comparison to a non-feminist or anti-feminist. She's a feminist who is radical, if you like. That doesn't make her a radical feminist, which is a more specific term.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 06:34 AM
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I'm losing control, standards are slipping. I would previously have finished the comment then switched to my rage account before snorting PCP.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 06:05 AM
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Reality? I'm old. I've been around feminists for forty years. Some of my partners and flatmates have been feminists, including my first GF in the wild times of the 1970s. And my wife and most of her friends. We started a babysitting group which had 30 couples over the years, maybe a third of them feminist. When I tell you about how feminists treat their sons I'm describing observed behaviour of actual feminists I know. I'm still in touch with a few, their children are in their early 20s now. The…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 05:58 AM
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I'm not commenting on this case but it is common for a male or female sexually assaulted by a relative or co-worker, especially a senior co-worker, to try to smooth it over at the time with "it's all right". They often are talking partly to themselves. Nobody wants to believe their boss / relative / partner has assaulted them, they will hold out hope of finding another interpretation.
/r/MensRights30/11/17 03:48 AM
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Sometimes. Like all communications it depends on the context. Bare skin is much more intimate than touching over clothing. Bare skin under clothing is far more intimate than exposed bare skin, it is going to come as a shock for skin assumed to be covered to be touched. Intentionally reaching under clothes to get at said bare skin is 1000x more intimate and can seriously freak out a woman. We don't have the information to judge intention vs accident. She and the station both know more about that.…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 03:14 AM
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Yes of course the same physical action is interpreted differently depending on the context. If you can understand how the meaning of someone inserting a finger into your ass is affected by whether you usually enjoy that, your genders, whether they are a doctor etc. then it should not be a mystery why one of many contextual factors affecting the interpretation of a shoulder touch from a server is the genders involved. Speaking as a male former server in a restaurant where women often had bare sho…
/r/MensRights30/11/17 02:52 AM
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Ford is very much mainstream - 3rd wave, progressive, intersectional. I know little about modern rad fems but my understanding is they retained a lot of 2nd wave ideas e.g. anti porn and prostitution. They kept gender essentialism, so many do not accept trans women. Outright man hating is much more common and accepted than in mainstream fems. KillAllMenAndHarvestTheirOrgans.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 09:40 PM
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Ha, downvoted by people who do not realise they agree with you.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 01:26 PM
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You guys should get out more and get to know some feminist mothers. I've met or known quite a few. They love their boys just as much as their girls. None of them made a cent from feminism, none were well off, some were broke. If you guys think Clementine Ford is a radical feminist then (listen carefully) YOU LACK EVEN THE MOST RUDIMENTARY UNDERSTANDING OF FEMINISM. Y'all need to consider how you could spend the time you have on feminism and yet be so wrong. At a guess your sources are highly mis…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 11:35 AM
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has been cited by several major sources Not true. He listed four far right sites which had cited Medusa (as ragebait), 3 of 4 were conspiracy / fake news sites or blogs. And The Federalist, which is far right and aims to be serious. He failed to be cited by even a single feminist or mainstream site, and feminist visitors did not accept it as either feminist or sane. The goal of presenting crazy shit and being accepted by feminists was a total failure, not even ordinary non-feminist sites were fo…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 11:18 AM
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The employer finds it works out fine on balance otherwise they would go back to male only crews. What the balance is I can only speculate. Maybe they find it easier to attract and keep good staff on mixed teams. Maybe work output is higher because people are happier. Maybe the women who apply are of generally higher quality than the guys, apart from being weaker. I don't know. I was a good employee and they lost me after four years, with all my experience, specifically because I was tired of liv…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 10:21 AM
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That is the only way I compliment strangers too. Infrequently. It has always been well received. If I want to express interest in a stranger I would try to think of anything other than appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:46 AM
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A lot of women say they find it weird for a guy who has zero connection to them to suddenly offer a comment on their appearance. If they don't know you, your opinion has little value and their first priority will likely be to work out the safest way to disengage from you. .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:27 AM
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OK, but now you are separated you need to accept her right to make her own judgment about people. You aren't the first parent to be horrified and scared by their ex's trust of someone. And sadly, you might not be the first to be proved right years after the damage is done. At this point your only influence is through the court or persuasion or negotiation. But the last two require good will, which you need to rebuild. There is nothing to work with in court that I can see. Understanding the situa…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 02:37 AM
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She said what in her book? She retracted her story about getting raped at college? That would be expected as part of a settlement to avoid getting sued wouldn't it? She would have been liable for serious damages, she gave the guys first name and other details so once he was ID'ed she had no choice but to publicly withdraw the allegation.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:06 PM
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Sure there will always be mistakes, and it is the man who mostly is required to take the risk. That's the price we pay for valuing and rewarding chaste / non-slutty women, and punishing their more relaxed and forthright sisters. I saw an interesting discussion of that by an autistic man. Autists have terrible trouble with flirting and he was saying they always will because traditional flirting requires the woman to communicate near the borderline of unintelligibility. That gives her deniabiltiy …
/r/MensRights28/11/17 10:59 PM
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I agree with all that. The crucial thing with work though is that it involves non-consensual association. You are in the presence of people who did not choose your presence today and know they will be forced into your presence every workday in future. Consent is already in peril just by that situation. Persistence carries risk, the consequences of it going wrong are vastly more serious. Every woman has a story about herself or a friend leaving a job because someone's advances made them uncomfort…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 09:59 PM
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Why do you keep talking about rape by women? This thread is about PTSD. Raped men's PTSD overwhelmingly originates in rape by men, a fact omitted by OP. Mary P Koss knows men can be raped. She has decades of expertise in rape statistics. She knows men can be raped by women too, though she successfully argued for the CDC's NISVS to use an extremely tight definition which defines most rape of men by women out of existence. On /Feminism I imagine most members accept men can be raped by women. I sta…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 01:45 PM
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TERFs are kind of legendary for the strength and bitterness of their feelings and the bentness of their thinking. They are a variety of feminism but they are a very weird variety, rejected by pretty much all other feminists. Not all radical feminists are trans exclusionary, I don't know what proportion are. Anti-feminist transphobes are often horrible people too.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 12:01 PM
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I understand your concern and you were right to gently express it to your son's mother, but that is as far as you can take it. You were not in a position to pressure her, and if you tried that might explain why she didn't just quietly keep your words in mind but instead sought and got support. It looks as if your failure to understand or accept the boundaries of your shared care arrangement has created a lot of trouble which will probably hurt you all for many years. It is not uncommon for separ…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:22 AM
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How is this specific to Asian culture? What is your point? Do you think children are not capable of domestic violence and developing abusive relationships with family members?
/r/MensRights28/11/17 10:04 AM
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I misread, thinking it was a competition. Anyway it would be easy to look up the arguments for and against, it must have been talked about a lot. Just guessing: There are a variety of roles with varying strength requirements. Modern equipment is lighter than the old gear. Everyone needs to meet some minimum standard of fitness but effective teams can operate with some physically weaker members. The same works in police forces and any number of jobs. This was all worked through in the 1960s and 7…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 09:47 AM
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He shut it down because it was a failure: Only 120 followers after 2 months. Revenue must be negative. Complete failure to attract links from feminist sites. Complete failure to attract feminists who would provide entertaining crazy comments. A few feminists turned up but they all said WTF, this is crap. As for real feminist sites surpassing satire, this site never even got accepted into the game as a weird guest. Hundreds of likes on comments by antifeminists demonstrating disconnection from re…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 08:38 AM
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The claim that Kate Harding's article in the Washington Post was inspired by this site's one is more bullshit, achieved by quoting a small piece of her article out of context. Below is some of what was cut out. The whole article is worth reading (so of course he didn't link it). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/17/im-a-feminist-i-study-rape-culture-and-i-dont-want-al-franken-to-resign/ if we set this precedent in the interest of demonstrating our party’s solidarity w…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 08:26 AM
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while everyone else was falling for our satirical articles Bullshit. The page only got 120 likes in two months. Not one feminist or mainstream non-feminist site fell for the obviously satirical articles. Not one in the whole wide world, so far as I know. The only sites which linked these articles were lunatic-fringe right wing sites. InfoWars, Gateway Pundit, The Federalist and a Russian equivalent. The Federalist might not be loony, all I know is it is extreme right wing. But being so out of to…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 07:56 AM
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Teams selected on merit are unlikely to contain women I guess, at least in the more physical roles. So they created a women's competition. And like a hundred other minor sports you have not heard of but where women are a minority, they left the main grade open because there are often not enough women to form a team. It isn't a conspiracy you need to investigate. It is just men and women working out how they can best arrange to do fun stuff where both genders can join in the fun.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 05:58 AM
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Duh, because women are a small proportion of firefighters. Firefighting being quite physical, I'd guess that competition teams picked on merit would be almost exclusively male. So a separate women's comp is created to avoid having practically all women excluded from participation. This is not a new thing, it happens in many small sports too, and is especially common before puberty. In smaller centres children's soccer teams are often mixed. If there are enough girls they can form a separate girl…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 05:47 AM
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Nobody has ever said men can't be raped. There are many who doubt men being raped by women is a significant problem, and some who doubt it is even possible. The quote does not give a source for the figure but my experience is that men who turn up on our suicide support sub after a rape have almost 100% been raped by men, unless it was in childhood. That isn't to say they have never been raped by a woman, just that they don't find it significant enough to mention. Elsewhere I've seen adult men in…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 05:32 AM
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Source? Discrimination laws are always gender-neutral in my experience, and the courts have no choice but to implement them as written.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 12:00 AM
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Women give a lot of feedback about whether they are interested in guys, long before you get to the stage of ask them out. Talk to your women friends about the signs they show. Think about how you could set up opportunities for her to display interest or ask you out.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 11:47 PM
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You could look up a bunch of sexual harassment resources, they usually contain a definition. SH usually involves repetition. Repeating a behaviour when you have not been given any encouragement can be harassment. If you are not sure how many free tries you get before it is harassment, stop right there and consider the situation. Are you in a public place where flirting is expected and there is an easy escape and she will never need to see you again? Fine, go for it. Does she have to interact wit…
/r/MensRights27/11/17 11:42 PM
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Like I guess all agony aunts, Mariella Frostrup presumably writes many of the "letters" she gets. Her pattern is to introduce a controversial topic and carefully omit information which would allow a clear decision to be reached. The commenters then do the work of exploring the topic, giving the site interesting content, and lots of clicks and engagement indicators to sell to advertisers. I don't resent it, that's just what news sites have to do to stay in business now. There are much less honour…
/r/MensRights27/11/17 11:07 PM
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Sadly I suspect you might be right, from what others have said about that sub.
/r/MensRights26/11/17 06:51 PM
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You should be more worried about Clementine Ford who must be ready to start testing her cannon for firing men into the sun by now. That means gangs of her feminist cult followers will be roaming Melbourne to harvest unaccompanied men as test subjects. #KillAllMen Can't you recognise hyperbole? It is a common literary technique. Kate is a writer and film maker, it wouldn't surprise me if she is against the death penalty. People who are off their rocker because of chronic abuse during childhood do…
/r/MensRights26/11/17 06:26 PM
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The tick means the account is verified to belong to the named public figure, plus the absolutely minimal "endorsement" that the person has not broken the rules badly enough to be censured by having their verification tick removed. Some of the people booted off or unverified for breaching the terms of service were prominent extreme right wingers like Milo and Richard Spencer. This was seen by some as biased. I don't know enough to form an opinion on that. Let's imagine it is true. If you think th…
/r/MensRights26/11/17 03:30 PM
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Until what evidence is properly vetted? If you want fries and salad with your multiple single-witness allegations there is no reason you should not have that. But if instead you want properly vetted independent evidence beyond all reasonable doubt, you are the kind of crazy customer who will be seated in the corner and ignored all night while everybody else gets on with their meal. Even if a single charge is ever laid against HW it will take ages to come to a verdict, which will likely be not gu…
/r/MensRights26/11/17 12:33 PM
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What proportion of human knowledge is tested in court? My wild guess is a lot less than one part in ten thousand. In some fields quite a lot has solid scientific backing in others much of the evidence is thin or contested. Yet we get by.
/r/MensRights26/11/17 09:31 AM
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It isn't the place for you to get support but FeMRAdebates might interest you, it is a strictly moderated sub for civilised discussion between MRAs and feminists.
/r/MensRights25/11/17 03:39 PM
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Her father, for one. [Edit: Very likely others later. Predators and abusers are not attracted by short skirts and pretty faces nearly as much as by people who have previously been victimised. Abuse is a dance, they like people who already know the steps].
/r/MensRights25/11/17 08:27 AM
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men aren't a protected class in hate speech laws. Source? Every law on hate speech I have seen, and the Facebook rules, specified gender as a protected class. Not females. So men are a protected class. I imagine the laws I have not seen would be the same. This is not a legal threat in Australia, NZ nor the US, nor in Facebook. (Disclaimer: I am always wrong about US law). A legal threat is typically specified to be specific (fails) and credible (fails). A competent English speaker aware of curre…
/r/MensRights25/11/17 08:25 AM
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There is still morality when the law does not apply. Actually the law might compel the server to serve an alcoholic so long as they are not intoxicated. Bartenders and especially the licencee can and do lose their license for serving intoxicated customers, at least they do in NZ.
/r/MensRights25/11/17 07:28 AM
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My guess is the mod who handled it does not have enough experience with rape and abusive relationships (and thus anxiety, panic attacks and PTSD) to recognise your post as genuine. They might not have taken the time to read all your comments on your "I was raped" account. If so that is irresponsible moderating. Invalidation can be very harmful for female victims, and males have it even harder because there is far less support available and far more disbelief etc. It is normal for a mod-removed c…
/r/MensRights25/11/17 07:17 AM
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You are conflating court procedures and standards of evidence, with those used in public discussions on anonymous social media. They are very different. Here there is no presumption of innocence beyond reasonable doubt. There are no laws of evidence. Each person chooses how much evidence they require to declare guilt.
/r/MensRights25/11/17 01:01 AM
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Too late, this thread is a pit of victim blaming and denialism.
/r/MensRights25/11/17 12:46 AM
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Source? I Googled McGowan NDA in News and found no mention of a lie about an NDA. I believe they are standard in Hollywood contracts, and it is hard to imagine how a settlement could exist without one - lack of a NDA removes the whole point of the settlement. Other stories of people who accused Weinstein and others in Hollywood have been published recently. There have been many accounts of people whose accusations ended their careers in specialist fields. Why do you think Rodriguez said Weinstei…
/r/MensRights25/11/17 12:32 AM
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If there was enough evidence to put him in jail I guess it would have been brought out at the time. There hardly ever is though, and after this much time it is a lot harder. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if he is never charged with anything, unless it is just for show because people think "something must be done".
/r/MensRights24/11/17 11:37 PM
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"Just"? We don't know her story.
/r/MensRights24/11/17 11:32 PM
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Nobody is suggesting violence. The bullet Harvey doesn't deserve is a metaphor for a quick resolution. That relates to the preceding sentence about her being glad it is happening slowly. Also I guess it is a line from one of her movies. You don't want to get in a fight with Uma Thurman, she'll slice you up with her samurai sword.
/r/MensRights24/11/17 11:27 PM
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But free speech!!! What would Thurman be charged with? If you had used bullet points instead of numbered points would that mean you deserve jail too? I say you deserve jail for crimes against reading comprehension. Which human right is being violated by the public being interested in Weinstein's story and by (presumably a small fraction of) victims bringing out their accusations? It would suit Weinstein for all accusations to hit the press on the same day, with each containing all the evidence i…
/r/MensRights24/11/17 11:11 PM
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Not like "all of Hollywood". History is written by the winners, and winners arise out of survivors. There are relatively few people brave or selfless enough to stand up to predators, but even for Weinstein there were some. At least one of the initial accusers dropped out of acting completely. Weinstein was accused publicly in the press, but there previously was not enough of a story to get traction. It requires multiple perfect victims to take someone down. Read what happened to Robert Rodriguez…
/r/MensRights24/11/17 10:56 PM
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Where do you get the implication of vigilantism from? She's glad it is going slowly, that his misdeeds are staying in the public eye as they gradually get exposed. He doesn't deserve to have his suffering cut short, and she is insulting him by saying he's not worth a bullet. I suspect that may be a reference to one of her roles, does anyone recognise it? Where is the proposal for one-sided, overly-broad, intrusive legislation? The only reference to law I have seen is a sugestion from someone tha…
/r/MensRights24/11/17 09:22 PM
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It infringes upon my right to bodily autonomy to be denied access to an elective medical procedure without the input of an arbitrary third party. You introduced one side of that as if it were relevant to equality, but the policy is gender-neutral. Also your wife is not arbitrary, to you or the doctor.
/r/MensRights24/11/17 02:15 PM
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It isn't women getting birth control. There are two people involved, the birth control, whatever method, is used by both of them. Same with abortion, in nearly all cases. Doctors asking for written evidence of wife's agreement for a vasectomy is a modern convenience, it used to be common for both partners to attend together so the doc could be sure they both understood the issues and ensure both parties know that one will no longer be fertile. (It is not unknown for people to want to deceive the…
/r/MensRights23/11/17 12:47 PM
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Thanks, but if I were being buried by an avalanche of hypocrisy and there were hypocrisy bullets flying everywhere and hypocrisy dildo-drones attacking my ass, I still wouldn't want any assistance from Teh Donald for calling out hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights23/11/17 12:29 PM
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I'm not in the US but even from here it is obvious there are some differences in the typical problems faced by black and white families. The policies applied to help will be colour blind but their selection requires awareness of differing priorities in each group.
/r/MensRights20/11/17 05:23 PM
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An increase in poverty does not excuse violence on an individual level, but it sure as hell is statistically predictive of violence at a group level. Confusing those two is a favourite excuse of politicians. If they do something which increases stress on poor people, there may be a measurable increase in violent crimes. (The media know the public don't understand measurements so they will just pick out a series of incidents that seems notable). If challenged the govt will distract with a strawma…
/r/MensRights20/11/17 05:02 PM
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Are you thinking of Title IX recently changing to using the balance of probabilities? That is nothing to do with the criminal system. I have seen "beyond reasonable doubt" interpreted as I giving think 1% or 2% false conviction rate. I'm not aware of that having changed, or there being a difference in the level between sexual and other crimes, or there being any principle in jurisprudence which would allow such a difference to be implemented. There have been changes in what is permissible as evi…
/r/MensRights19/11/17 12:43 PM
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Nah. Reducing the standard of evidence in criminal trials is not feasible, it undermines basic principles in our justice system. We can't put people in jail for years without a high standard of proof, and for that reason I don't believe criminal trials will or should ever be relevant to the huge majority of rapes. Currently less than 1% of rapes end in jail. That number could be increased with better policing, lets say we could make it 2% by giving police a pile of money for detective work. But …
/r/MensRights19/11/17 05:58 AM
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Unregulated power is a huge part of this story. The same thing happens all through society. E.g. in a small private junkyard business providing a subsistence income, complaints over sexual harassment etc will be resolved in favour of the more powerful party and bystanders who value their jobs will keep their mouths shut. That dynamic does not occur everywhere, it requires a lack of checks and balances to enable one person to be a tyrant. In larger, well run companies there are policies and proce…
/r/MensRights19/11/17 05:22 AM
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Sorry, I found that flak jacket joke pretty funny. It refers to the recent perception among men that sexual assault seems to be happening everywhere. (This perception is not amusing to many women who have been trying to get men to care about this sort of stuff for decades and don't see anything new except the current media focus on a tiny fraction of what goes on). Why would they target you? Groping any amount of women is not going to get you in the news outside your local area. If you want to j…
/r/MensRights19/11/17 03:38 AM
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"Beyond reasonable doubt" is exactly why most rape allegations received by police do not even result in arrest, let alone prosecution or conviction. Depending on the area police will try to discourage the complainant from making an official complaint if they don't have enough evidence to make an arrest. UK police are famous for that but it happens anywhere that politicians put pressure on police to make their arrest and conviction ratios look pretty.
/r/MensRights19/11/17 02:12 AM
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Yes that was about 2% of rapes reported to police were considered provably false, from studies on three continents. I think your arithmetic is correct, and I have seen other analyses finding the provably false rate similar to the conviction rate. I agree your assumption the unreported rapes would have the same conviction rate is generous, considering the low chance of getting a conviction or even a prosecution is one of the most common reasons for not reporting. Note the 31% reporting rate often…
/r/MensRights19/11/17 01:46 AM
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In a criminal court there is no burden of evidence on the accused to prove a negative. That applies to all western countries I know about. There is no burden of evidence on the accused in a civil court either. (That is why there was such a fuss when that US university effectively reversed that burden of proof in a Title IX case, before it was overturned by a circuit judge. And other universities did similar stuff). To avoid a judgement of libel Dunham and her publisher would have to prove her al…
/r/MensRights18/11/17 11:34 PM
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She was legally compelled, dumbass. It means nothing except she wants to keep her assets in her possession, rather than in the hands of lawyers and the guy she accused. Come to think of it her own money may not have been the deciding factor. The publisher would have been liable too. Exposing your publisher to unexpected lawsuits is considered uncool for a professional writer. She's a dumbass for giving enough detail in the book to turn what should have been just a story about her experience, int…
/r/MensRights18/11/17 11:04 PM
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The rate of provably false accusations has been measured in multiple studies to be around 2% (1.3, 1.5 and 2.1% from memory). The actual rate must be a lot higher because false accusations are often not provable. A very detailed study from Victoria, Australia found police judged 6% of reports to be false or probably false.
/r/MensRights18/11/17 05:38 PM
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The erasure of male victims of rape by women is very much a men's rights issue. Statistics on men raped by women are often misleading due to: Police and court statistics on rape are useless for inter-sex comparison due to the extremely low reporting rate by men, plus the higher drop-out rate for men at every step of the process. The CDC's definition of rape erases nearly all rapes of men by women, classifying them under "made to penetrate". As with suicide I think the situation for men and women…
/r/MensRights18/11/17 05:30 PM
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It was unproven. Nobody presented any evidence of it being false AFAIK.
/r/MensRights18/11/17 04:52 PM
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Since the figure was 100% / 99% it is certain her definition of "rapist" is very different to yours. Or she might mean "I can't tell who isn't a rapist". Some people use numbers expressionistically - she may mean "far too many, and I'm mad as hell about that". I had a similar situation with a housemate. Background is earlier that year she had been on holiday with her sister, who was grabbed off the beach and raped by a random stranger . She was glad the guy was going to serve ten years for it bu…
/r/MensRights18/11/17 04:33 PM
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I agree with Colbert except it is both men and women who should be doing some introspection on how their own attitudes might reinforce or oppose the attitudes involved in sexual abuse. He isn't saying everybody is behaving abusively.
/r/MensRights18/11/17 09:45 AM
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He didn't suggest or imply "we all do it". He just noted allegations are coming in from a wide variety of sectors throughout society. Several dozen allegations from fields as big as politics or Hollywood does not suggest universal guilt, it is only evidence of an infintesimal proportion of people being involved. There are reasons to believe the problem is far bigger than the number of public accusations, but even if it were a hundred times larger it is still just a small proportion of people inv…
/r/MensRights18/11/17 09:37 AM
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OP your headline misrepresents your link. Nobody "blamed all men as sexual perverts", let alone multiple people as you claimed. I knew that before reading it, but read it just to make certain. You are pulling stuff out of your ass.
/r/MensRights18/11/17 09:27 AM
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Agreed. Vice has done some good investigations but overall the site is populist clickbait. Same as Buzzfeed.
/r/MensRights17/11/17 11:36 AM
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It is not the MRM, it is some MRAs. Same with feminism, it needs rescuing from feminists. Maybe men should run feminism for a while.
/r/MensRights17/11/17 11:11 AM
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Thanks, that makes sense now. "Communities focused on this content and users who post such [incel] content" are banned". That is more than just banning /Incels, it is banning imitators. I just checked, /Truecels is now gone too. SelfHarmPics is gone too, for effectively encouraging self harm. It did good but I suspect more harm because people got competitive. The text sub /Selfharm is still there for support. Community mental health is not the site admin's job, I think banning /Incels will save …
/r/MensRights17/11/17 05:09 AM
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Four comments in, and nobody has said WTF where is this alleged quote from? There is a typo in the first line which suggests it is not from a quality source. MensRights was not said to be Nazi. That was a separate sentence. Taken literally MR is presumably included under "violent content". Maybe that was intended But that description was a general label, it can not be expected to exhaustively describe everything which is to be suppressed. So maybe we are not even violent, just gentle peace-lovin…
/r/MensRights17/11/17 02:54 AM
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That is a fair distinction but my impression of the US abortion debate is that it is not nuanced, it is an all-out war where any piece of ground even vaguely related to abortion will be fought over bitterly and any advance sets a new battle line. Laws which use ridiculous and hypocritical excuses to impede access to abortion and push it beyond the reach of poor people seem to be fine for Republican voters. Removing abortion from the public health system means only people who can spare a thousand…
/r/MensRights16/11/17 12:28 PM
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Access to affordable sexual health care is an obvious reasons to vote Democrat in the US. In many countries a woman who wants an IUD or abortion just gets one. In the US it can cost as much as a car. But the terrifying thing is the move to overturn Roe vs Wade and stop abortion. That one will always make a lot of women and men vote to keep Republicans out.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 10:35 AM
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Your example is ancient history. How much do you know about the variety of current attitudes to porn among radical feminists? I don't know much at all. Feminist support for porn started in the late 1970s, grew during the Sex Wars of the 1980s and became the majority position by 1990. Dworkin and McKinnon were both old school 2nd wave angry radicals, and remained so. I don't know what Steinem thinks of porn now, she's a lot saner than the other two.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 08:21 AM
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Where is the feminist angle? The UK govt is attempting to make it easier for parents to keep porn away from children. That is not an attack on porn for adults, it is just an attack on giving porn to kids. Who supports attempting to block porn for kids? My guess, in order of number of voters: Old people who don't understand how hard it is. Muslims, Hindus, all immigrant groups. Conservatives Christians Feminists, all kinds Spooks. Spooks love accurate ID especially from people trying to conceal i…
/r/MensRights16/11/17 07:07 AM
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Sure, for men who work longer hours it is fair for women to do more. I was in that position myself for a while, my wife was doing 37 hours and I did 50+ so she did all cooking during the week and more housework. It can get contentious where there are young kids to look after, which can be just as much work as a job. I'm hopeless at multi-tasking, I found being a house husband exhausting. My wife found the same thing, going back to work was easier in a way.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 06:08 AM
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I know about every bit of the stuff you wrote about. You appear to have been kept in a cage and fed outrage porn all your life. You are no less sick than the person quoted by OP, if they are not a long-running troll. Try getting out in the real world and talking about feminism with the women you meet. But listen far more than you talk, because your current net knowledge is a lot less than zero.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 05:52 AM
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Like the US Democrat party? There are heaps of feminists who vote Democrat.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 05:28 AM
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What "tent" is "she" in, if it is in fact a woman not a Russian troll. If you submit a photo of her comment to a feminist site you will rightly get shat on for trolling. But I dont' think you will find anyone supporting her. I am not aware of a single prominent feminist using Tumblr. don't recall ever seeing a link to Tumblr on a feminist site.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 05:26 AM
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So more than 1 in 6 for men? Those figures do not come from reports. As you say men report far less often, and for other reasons at every step of the way from assault to conviction men drop out of the statistics more than women. The 1 in 4 and 1 in 6 figures come from surveys sampling the whole population. They have been replicated in many countries over many years. The exact figures vary, and of course are quite sensitive to the definitions used and the survey methods. For example in the US NIS…
/r/MensRights16/11/17 05:20 AM
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The guys I'm thinking of are not doing 22 hours of extra work outside the house. Do you have a source for this? I can look up Warren Farrell's stuff myself.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 04:52 AM
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A few things have changed since Warren Farrell put his list together. When I was young a man knew how to fix a car because otherwise the family could get stranded while on holiday, and it saved serious money. Maybe most men hadn't had the head off their car but a whole lot had. I've done many domestic plumbing and electrical jobs on old houses. Many men now don't know how to even change a washer, they don't need to. Modern houses look after themselves, you hardly need any tools beyond the cutler…
/r/MensRights15/11/17 11:18 AM
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It gives the site owners some legal and PR cover, perhaps. The mods main account can be banned, and they can even be IP blocked. And it lets the membership know there is a problem with their behaviour. And it deletes the entire history, removing liability for anything in it, and making members sad.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 06:03 AM
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I'm in my 50s. The feminists my age that i know are as frequently happily married as the non- or anti- feminists.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 05:25 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the course content, but for that to be all that is offered is callous victim-blaming bullshit.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 05:09 AM
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None of those things takes up much time in most households. While housework does. This has changed a lot. In the 70s there was a big push from feminists for men to gain basic competence in doing ordinary adult stuff in a home. Men in general eventually did up their game, though slowly and with a great deal of whining. It even became fashionable in the early 80s in much of society for men to be capable at home. Like all fashions some people took it too far and there was a counter-swing. But young…
/r/MensRights15/11/17 05:05 AM
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If you want to be taken seriously by anyone outside of hard right voters, don't use a hard right blog as a source for a story defending a hard right politician.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 04:45 AM
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It has long been recognised as a problem. Supporting the mother and child takes centre stage and everyone can forget to check the father is OK. It is important to make time for self care and maintaining friendships outside the world of babies.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 02:58 AM
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Politicians being petty to prevent the other side getting a win with a good policy is not unprecedented sadly. It is ideal if both parents can be home together after the birth. I took at least a week off i think. But given a constant budget that reduces the time available for the baby to be home with a parent instead of shoved into a creche far too young, as many babies are. Maybe they should allow parents to take it together just for a shorter time after the birth. My wife went back to work qui…
/r/MensRights15/11/17 02:51 AM
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In terms of the dictionary definition, yes. But what comfort is that? Some try a hooker, I think most don't except out of curiosity.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 02:35 AM
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It does not make sense to me that he is being vilified on the same scale as the others. I think there is a bit of mob hysteria going on, they are not thinking critically. What he did was wrong, he admitted that and stopped doing it years ago.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 12:51 PM
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Read the Washington Post article you linked. It makes much more sense and contradicts the impression given by the OP.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 12:33 PM
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"I would call you a boy but you are such a beautiful girl". That and the claim it was repetitive suggests a staff member who simply should not have been allowed on that ward. Suicidal patients are routinely extremely sensitive, and teens are too. You can train staff to parrot the right words in definable and supervised situations but you can not fix a basic failure of empathy, if that is all it was. It could also have been malicious, or religious or political toxicity. All of those do happen in …
/r/MensRights14/11/17 12:02 PM
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The article is a misleading piece of shit, I'm disappointed people feel it worth commenting on something so brief from an unknown site when the article it is based on is from a high quality site and is linked within it. The original Washington Post article is worth reading: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/10/03/mother-sues-hospital-for-discrimination-after-staff-kept-calling-her-transgender-son-a-girl/
/r/MensRights14/11/17 11:51 AM
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At admission his mother made them aware he was trans, provided his legal change of gender ID to be kept on file, and asked that his ID be respected. That should have gone into his notes as a critically important and relevant bit of info. Even if that info never reached the ward the hospital staff were outrageously incompetent and never should have been working on a ward handling suicidal teens. E.g. "I would call you a boy but you are such a beautiful girl" reflects more than just unawareness of…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 11:44 AM
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Boys at risk of becoming incels can be helped from their first year at school, as part of general social skills and mental health assistance for kids who need it. I'm thinking well before puberty, initially. Autistic people are hugely over-represented among incels, which is another reason it is much more common in men. Social skills training would help I guess, both general skills and specific romantic and sexual subjects. At high school the at-risk kids need structures which promote social incl…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 11:10 AM
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For all their silliness and lack of understanding, Incels understand one thing right: hookers do not sell what they need.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 10:32 AM
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For everybody, but there are special topics which are at least somewhat gendered and it might be best to teach some of those separately. Mental health is one of the most productive things a government can invest in, especially at the younger ages. Doubling expenditure would be a good start for most countries I reckon, they would get the money back within a few years of people getting into the workforce.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 10:27 AM
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As therapists say you don't get handed the end result of desired changes on a plate. You have to be ready to change, then you have to do the work.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 10:18 AM
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I really can't think what should be done with narcissists. I'm friends with one online, but we are safely in different countries and he seems pretty OK most of the time. The damage they do to their children is horrific, I would consider supporting compulsory sterilisation except that they are almost never diagnosed. The kids are practically never rescued. They turn up all the time on our suicide sub.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 10:12 AM
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I have seen a lot of feminists comment on 50 Shades and they have been exactly 100% critical of it. I agree with the overall flavour of your comment though. It leaves a bad taste.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 08:35 AM
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Which mainstream feminists want to ban porn? I guess there will be some, I just can't think of any.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 08:27 AM
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Patriarchy theory had always been throughout all branches of feminism. I think the term "rape culture" is more recent but the ideas had been wide spread too. I'm not aware it is linked to being sex negative or positive. I think the label is unfortunate but anyway the sex negative feminists did not win. Their loss of The Sex Wars is one of the things that distinguishes third wave feminism, which emerged around 1990 and gradually took over as the main stream. Radical feminists tend to retain a lot…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 08:19 AM
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He did not apologise for masturbating in front of women. He is not being criticised for masturbating in front of women. What he did is not "an exact analog" of what a camgirl or camboy does when masturbating in front of an audience. Nor is it a rough analog. It is not anything to do with it, apart from involving masturbating in front of an audience. Cammers doesn't get called pig pervert degenerates, by many people at least, because they aren't. They are earning an honest buck in a legal and eth…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 08:10 AM
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It looks like a troll to me, though crazy and stupid and just thoughtless people do exist. I can't see any point discussing a decontextualised alleged anonymous social media post from a nobody. I can see harm from it though. It hands partial control of our sub to people with unknown motives.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 08:01 AM
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There has never been any notion of a "primary care-giver" in the parental leave law, at least not in the last 30 years that I know of. Parents can split both the 22 weeks paid parental leave and and the one year's unpaid parental leave however they want between them, one at a time. Even if a primary care giver was defined it would be open to both men and women, not just biological parents and definitely not just mothers. Our laws are generally written to be gender-neutral. National, the right wi…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 07:41 AM
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Well, what ever this thing is that women mistakenly think is rape but it really isn't, I wish people (men and women) would stop doing it because it is fucking people (men and women) up horribly. Source: I help out on a suicide forum. Also some for people with long term / permanent damage from chronic severe abuse as children. Often the original damage wasn't sexual, but they are very attractive targets for abusers and outright rapists so that often gets added into the mix at some stage.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 07:09 AM
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It is true that women are very much more commonly the victim. The other huge thing is the scale of the threat, and men commonly don't really get this. The only thing protecting women is our social codes and when a guy breaks one rule or ignores one boundary, the immediate priority of the woman is to know for sure what other rules he might break. If he doesn't respect her right to set a boundary in itself then she knows he is now in charge of her boundaries, and she doesn't know where he will set…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 07:01 AM
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Men are not accused of sexual harassment en masse. A very small proportion of men create a risk. They can not always be identified, so other men sometimes can not be ruled out as a risk. That is not accusing men en masse. I have worked in some rough places but have never felt it necessary to take any action for the physical safety of a woman at work beyond keeping my eyes open, especially at boozy Christmas parties etc. There has been a bit of escorting to taxis late at night or giving a lift ho…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 06:32 AM
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People don't act like it only happens to women. Everyone knows that women can get pushy and handsy too. Your experiences are common for a man as handsome as yourself, which is why you are believed when you tell people. every time I tell the story it gets downplayed or ignored, just as you would expect with cancerous feminism in society. Do you only tell this story to your feminist friends? What happens when you tell it to non-feminist or anti-feminist friends?
/r/MensRights14/11/17 03:28 AM
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I used the tactic of working longer hours to avoid strife at home. It is very easy to justify if you need the money, as we did. It can easily get counterproductive though, as it did. I was exhausted, my wife (who worked nearly full time) was exhausted, our kid had two tired and grumpy parents. I was on salary so got no extra money, it was just of an investment in my career. My wife suggested I find an easy job or become a full time house husband again as I had until 2 years, her salary was just …
/r/MensRights14/11/17 03:10 AM
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Yes, I had a wee bit of mild depression in the first year. My wife had a bit too, not too bad. Her job was to help mothers with PND so we were well aware of it, women can get it really bad and in rare cases can get psychotic and unable to care for a baby. I did not know at the time that fathers get a drop in testosterone starting early in the pregnancy and which endures until at least several months after the birth. I don't know if that was involved in depression, which came later. I felt great …
/r/MensRights14/11/17 02:59 AM
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She tried to kill two men, not one. Warhol lost the manuscript she gave him, she was convinced it was a plot to cheat her. Then she lost the plot.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 03:57 AM
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Oh cool, it is about time I saw something with Lena Dunham in it, I get the impression she has a forked tail. I like that in a woman. American Horror Story: Cult doesn't sound like a reliable place to get your history from though. There was an earlier movie about Solanas and Warhol, I dunno how informative it was on the feminist angle though. I read a little bit of her stuff. She's pretty bent up about men. Funny though. And badly crazy.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 03:55 AM
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The Independent is a right wing (low-medium brow?) rag which publishes a regular column by one of the most noxious global warming denialists in the country, when it isn't publishing guest pieces by fellow denialist shithead James Delingpole. Describing sexual abuse of a minor as a "romp" sounds right for the Telegraph's target audience but I'd be surprised and very intrigued to see what kind of feminist you can find using that word. I suspect your memory has mixed up a headline from another stor…
/r/MensRights13/11/17 03:41 AM
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I was only commenting on the tendency for severe editorialising in titles here. I dunno anything about this case or Kit Harington.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 03:27 AM
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Misleading titles are a specialty of this sub. I don't think it is being deliberately disingenuous so much as just having a frothy-mouthed insistence on interpreting everything in the world as part of a feminist plot against men.
/r/MensRights12/11/17 11:31 AM
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I've not seen feminists passing off pedophilia as acceptable when a woman does it. Can you provide an example?
/r/MensRights11/11/17 06:23 PM
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She tried to kill two men that day because of a business dispute, exacerbated by her mental illness. She showed a lot of hatred for men too, but that was not the reason for that attempt.
/r/MensRights11/11/17 06:21 PM
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Not on that charge. And I can't see how a charge of murder could be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
/r/MensRights11/11/17 06:19 PM
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Karen DeCrow was president of NOW but often broke with feminist orthodoxy. Became MRA. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-now-president-who-became-a-mens-rights-activist/372742/ Doris Lessing was dismayed at how feminism turned out, she felt it became anti-male.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 07:34 PM
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Mother Jones' 98% is correct, I checked it last month. MJ is not normally picked as a primary source but it might be, if the FBI does not provide suitable figures and MJ had compiled lists.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 12:09 PM
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She is not often hailed as a feminist icon nowadays. I recall when Solanas' tract was not unusual in feminist's bookshelves, but it was seen largely as hyperbolic satire in the tradition of Johnathan Swift. There was a fair bit of outright manhating around then too, though men were more hatable back then. Modern feminists are so unfamiliar with her work that when they read Eliot Roger's manifesto they failed to see what I thought were obvious similarities. She is an important historical figure b…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 12:00 PM
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I agree except for the first one, that is often portrayed as "sex" or "a relationship" while with the genders reversed feminists are very clear that it is rape. They don't give the woman a pass the way the nonfeminist media does but they are not so quick to call it rape.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:54 AM
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I reckon women should stand aside and let men run feminism for a year every now and then. Not that men would do a better job overall but it would be healthy to have a change, just like it is good to change the government periodically.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:51 AM
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The facts do not back up StrawberrySpringg at all. In Australia only one in four (or five?) intimate partner killings is by a woman. IIRC that is similar to other countries. Poison is so rarely used to kill family members that it makes hardly any difference that women use it more. Contract killing is relatively rarely purchased by women, and is a small proportion of domestic killings anyway. It is very rare in my country. Contractors probably are always revealed when caught, and we do catch most…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 11:47 AM
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"If they want to talk about killing machines how about the fact that" school shootings are an overwhelmingly US phenomenon, and the US is uniquely flooded with guns. Here in NZ we had two people killed in a school shooting almost a hundred years ago in 1923. That's all. Our cops don't wear guns, apart from airport police and that is I believe is US requirement after 9/11. No, suicide is irrelevant. The definition for a mass shooting is four or more people not including the shooter. No, gang crim…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 10:31 AM
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Women are the majority of child abusers only because women do the vast bulk of early childcare. If you adjust for contact hours, men are more likely to abuse children. If you adjust for solo contact hours the rate of abuse is very much higher for men.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 10:20 AM
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Unsurprisingly, companies in a multi-trillion dollar global industry actually understand the business they have been in for much longer than cars have even existed.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 10:14 AM
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She was charged with negligent homicide not murder, so 4 years sounds normal. Her confused testimony would not have held up a charge of murder, according to police prosecutors.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:59 AM
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Yes the printing press changed society hugely by making books and news sheets available to lower classes. I guess all sorts of rules had to be changed because of that. I know regrettably little about history.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:47 AM
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I didn't think about troll posts from outsiders. It is too late to check now, banning means the the sub is deleted if it is the same as FPH and Coontown. We now have to consider Russian trolls stirring up trouble too. I don't know if they would be attracted to Reddit though because our history feature makes them much easier to spot. FB's lack of history makes it easier to repeat comments all over the place without being noticed.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:40 AM
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With rape, "seeking justice" seldom involves the police and courts. They have an important role in a minority of rapes but will never have any useful part to play in the great majority of rapes. Some people talk about trying to modify police procedures and the law to enable them to get a grip on rape but only a limited amount can be done without abandoning basic legal protections and introducing gross injustice to the accused. In general, rape is too slippery for the courts to handle and the req…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:32 AM
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They may say some crazy things out of pain. Yes. A lot of the suggestions which appear horrific are actually just venting or black humour. Autistic humour is an acquired taste and I'm sure many people don't see the irony and self-deprecation. It is a natural human instinct to want a sexual partner to share life with. I agree, and I think their plight is a concern of the MRM since the reasons for it are partly cultural and structural. The feminists sure as hell are not interested in considering t…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:16 AM
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They have already regrouped on another sub, /TrueIncels so far as I know. That can happen a few times, but if the problems keep recurring the admins will eventually get tired of it and turn their attention to banning individual mods and users. If Incels really can't get on with Reddit's rules then they will start a group on one of the deplorable servers. Likely there is one already so the more outrageous ones will migrate to it. I suspect they will just learn to moderate their behaviour and most…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 07:26 AM
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Someone who has taken hush money for themselves is in a weaker moral position to make a public complaint, and presumably can be sued for breaking a formal or informal contract of silence. That doesn't mean they can't speak out, just that it may cost them. If they gave the money to charity I don't see that their moral position is compromised at all, though they are still liable for breaking any contract of silence. Someone who has paid hush money is in a weaker position to defend themselves but a…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 12:18 PM
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I don't think proxy violence or excusing violence are happening. If they were happening then the use of irony would cease to be acceptable. We don't accept the alt-right guys "jokes" about racial volence because racial violence is a problem in the real world. Feminist women raping or killing men is not a problem in the real world, since feminist women do not do this any more than non-feminist women. I'd guess they do less of both.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 12:10 PM
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True, though they tend to be misogynists in addition to that. Their disapproval of using attractiveness to get social status is weird given that they support this system themselves. They often display a ridiculous sense of absolute entitlement to a partner who is physically attractive to their porn-devastated brains, regardless of their own physical unattractiveness, lack of social skills and repulsive personality.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 12:03 PM
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I agree society taking things away from innocent individuals for the greater good is generally something to be avoided. An example that comes to mind in NZ law is compulsory purchase of land for road projects, which only happens occasionally because they tend to buy on the open market in advance where possible. I suspect the price paid would tend to be on the generous side to reduce opposition but it is decided by government valuers and sometimes leaves the land owner unhappy. But in the case of…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 11:46 AM
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I don't know anything specific about sex addiction and not a great deal about addiction in general but even I know sex addiction does not only apply to men. It is easy to imagine how extremely high libido could be mis-diagnosed as sex addiction, but that does not mean sex addiction does not exist. People who are predisposed to addiction can become addicted to a very wide range of things which have the required attributes. A strong reward is just one of them. My guess is that some sex addicts don…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 11:23 AM
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So what? The allegations might not even be prosecuted, let alone convicted. We are not in a court. We are not handing out criminal penalties. We are not bound by the court rules on admissable evidence. We do not require proof beyond reasonable doubt.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:39 AM
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You won't get laid until you fix your grammar. It should be "This affects all of us". Effects are things, "affects" refers to actions.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:24 AM
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I'm not aware that there is a substantial problem with feminists raping or killing men, nor with feminist subs advocating raping, sexually assaulting or killing men. Yes, I've seen the KillAllMen tweets. Sorry but I LOLed at some.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:21 AM
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Yes indeed, but that freedom has not been removed. /TrueIncels was created in response to earlier attempts by the admins to get the mods to do their job properly. If that gets banned later, it still is not stopping those men from sharing their problems together. It is not even stopping them from doing so on a specific sub, they can keep creating new subs until they learn how to stop advocating raping children.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:17 AM
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They were not banned for being ineffective. They ware banned for being persistently actively harmful, advocating rape, sex with children, and sexual slavery.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:13 AM
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Feminists are pretty much unanimous that prison rape is an awful thing and they include joking about it in their list of things that are not funny. I guess it comes under the category of rape culture too. You can see people on feminist sites talking about prison rape to express their rage at some criminal but they usually get slapped down pretty quick.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:06 AM
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Sure their loss is a price worth paying for the greater good. That is the theory behind parking fines, putting criminals in jail, and medical deregistration. Every society has penalties for outrageous deviation from rules.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 02:55 AM
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If we want to get rid of those strings, some of the biggest strings we should be working on are slut shaming, and availability of cheap / free contraception, abortion and sexual health care.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 02:44 AM
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Actually two-bit thugs very often can't get laid, or at least can't establish or maintain relationships with women. This is well known to police, probation officers and judges. If a crim manages to find a GF they will try to protect that relationship because they know how much it protects society.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 02:36 AM
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I agree MRAs have a duty to help those men, but I don't think fighting the ban on the /Incels sub is the way to do it. /Incels was a circlejerk of toxic beliefs that I think were actively hurting those men. Their sub rules pretty much prohibited discussion of other ideas. The attitudes that leaked out of /Incels were a stain on the MRM and attempts to oppose the ban will be seen the same way. We already suffer from being conflated with MGTOW, TRP and Incels and that is not going to go away any t…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 02:20 AM
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Incels are not stupid. They know that what they want is not purchasable from prostitutes. In that way they are the same as other men. Despite epidemic levels of can't-get-laid periods in many men's lives, only about ten percent of men ever visit a prostitute during their life. /MGTOW will be helpful to some, though they are a separate group. They seek connection, MGTOWs actively avoid it apart from sex in some cases.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 02:07 AM
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The mods' failure to remove bad posts after reporting is exactly what would have got /Incels banned. It does not happen without plenty of warning. The admins deal with misbehaviour with repeated polite requests and education about site rules to the mods. If that fails to produce acceptable behaviour, warnings are given. Individual mods can be banned (or un-modded?). Next step is to make the sub private for a while, as was done to /Incels. A sub can also be suspended. I think that happened to /In…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 02:05 AM
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The site-wide rules are not about what people don't like. Subs are not banned because their members are a bunch of guys with victim complexes. That said, the dominant political culture will obviously influence interpretation of the rules but onlyin in marginal cases. I don' t know the reasons /Incels was banned but in my few visits I have seen posts advocating rape, sex slavery and promoting sex with children. My guess is that those breach Reddit sitewide rules, and the admins' repeated failure …
/r/MensRights09/11/17 01:32 AM
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John Stuart Mill is a fine chap but the technology of his day was very different so his views on free speech are not necessarily applicable now. Social organisation and laws are very responsive to technology. For example hunter/gatherer societies need different rules, customs and religions to those with technologies enabling agriculture. If the technologies involved in cities, armies or long distance transport and communication are developed then rules, customs and I guess religions will need to…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 01:20 AM
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Another big argument for vaccinating boys is that their sexual orientation is not knowable by parents at that age, and is very often not known by the boys. Gay and bi boys need to be vaccinated. The other reason is that due to anti-vaxxers, religionists and conspiracy theorists the takeup of vaccines by girls is lower than is desirable. Vaccinating a significant proportion of the male side of the straight & bi population will help.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 03:46 PM
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A guy in his position has a non-stop buffet of sexual availability. The accusations show sexual availability is not what interested him.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 03:28 PM
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It is a sensitive subject but I have seen it said that "beyond reasonable doubt" is translated as a target false conviction rate of one percent in practice. Or maybe it was two percent.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 03:25 PM
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That is why financial settlements sometimes specify that the money is paid to a charity. Either the complainant genuinely does not want his money, or rejects it as an insult to him. By not profiting from the deal they avoid calling their motive into question. I think I saw that arrangement mentioned by at least one of Weinstein's accusers.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 03:20 PM
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We spend a lot of time here discussing rape, consent, both genuine and false accusations, investigations, trials and sentencing. HW is a relevant case for many of these subjects which concern us. His story did not suddenly stop being relevant and interesting after it became evident to most people's judgement that he is a colossal sleazebag, an out-of-control habitual harasser (listen to the tape) and very possibly a serial rapist.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 03:00 PM
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the women who hopped on his fuckstick for a chance at being a celebrity. It is easy to imagine there are several busloads of such women, plus a queue of failed applicants stretching around the block. But I don't see how any of that is relevant to the accusations he is facing. The accusations are not of miscommunication or misunderstanding, they are of outright predation.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 02:47 PM
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Yes. I found them pretty uniformly full of hatred for men, it is like WGTOW. OP's description of Feminist Current as "a leading feminist website" is misleading. That is like describing Mike Pence as a leading Republican. Meghan Murphy is a 2nd wave radical feminist, a hardline TERF. Despite being famous and long-established, the FB page has only y 27k followers. Compare to Feminists United at 370k and Clementine Ford's 180k.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 01:14 PM
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I'm not sure we disagree. As I said earlier the damage I see in men and women is remarkably similar. Individual victims deserve support just by being human, it is irrelevant what the numbers are, or whether they are a member of what some see as an oppressor class. In the future I imagine it would be a good sign if the same support organisations and staff were able to help both men and women. It is an unhealthy sign that this is not feasible today in some areas because the training and culture of…
/r/MensRights08/11/17 06:27 AM
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Male victims of females are severely erased in many places - socially and at every one of the many stages between the misdeed and sentencing for obvious examples. So police and court statistics on the subject are extremely skewed and useless for comparison. Same goes for common knowledge. " Those that have studied the issue" include four huge national surveys in the US and similar ones in other countries. Quality national surveys are very expensive so are run every 4-5 years. NISVS, the National…
/r/MensRights08/11/17 06:16 AM
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Really? Do you think a hospital consent procedure and associated form which only required the consent of one parent would require that this must be the mother not the father? I find that hard to imagine.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 05:25 AM
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Yeah, I agree there is a problem with her attitude and am not happy with the way the statistics are presented. I just don't know enough about it to form an opinion on how it should be done differently.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 08:15 AM
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Feminists accept patriarchy is transmitted and enforced by both men and women so I don't see why rape culture should be any different. It is an extra step to suggest there are somewhat gender-specific parts of that culture but I don't see how that can be resisted since they are asking men to attend to the specifically male bits. Actually I can. They can say the male parts are partly systemic, arising out of patriarchy. Female offending can be put down to purely individual pathology, regrettable …
/r/MensRights07/11/17 08:12 AM
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There are a number of places where sexually traumatised men should show up regardless of social embarrasment if they exist in comparable numbers to women. Briefly, they don't. Not to therapists, not for PTSD treatment, not on throwaways in our various support subs for rape, PTSD, anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation. Not even in the really hardcore suicide sub that I only visit on this ID because I don't want the people I talk to on our main suicide sub to even know it exists. People talk free…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 08:00 AM
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Male victims of females are severely erased in many places - socially and at every one of the many stages between the misdeed and sentencing for obvious examples. So police and court statistics on the subject are extremely skewed and useless for comparison. Same goes for common knowledge. " Those that have studied the issue" include four huge national surveys in the US and similar ones in other countries. Quality national surveys are very expensive so are run every 4-5 years. NISVS, the National…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 07:08 AM
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I spent a bit of time reading about him. The tiny bit I know about medical ethics is enough to confidently label him a cowboy. The hospital would have explained what he did wrong but he disregarded it, instead he made up the weird claim that it is against ethical rules to investigate problems with circumcision. It isn't, and I don't believe he was told that. At a guess I imagine his degrees are real, he is brilliant and energetic but has personality problems which have seriously restricted his a…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 05:32 AM
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Obviously the consent of one parent was given informally, I don't know if both are required. I imagine formal consent would require the ethics committee to approve the consent form that consent is recorded on, since consent is too subtle a subject to leave up to the discretion of researchers. Anyway, they have an obvious conflict of interest so can not be trusted to design the consent form. Consent is not simple, which is why we argue about it a lot on this sub. Medical ethics is not taught with…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 04:45 AM
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Running an experiment on humans without authorisation by an ethics committee is a prima facie breach of ethical rules, in any system I can imagine. Accepting the results of such research for publishing is another breach, which is why it did not happen. Otherwise people would just do their unethical research, publish it then say oops sorry I thought it was obvious it had no ethical issues so didn't submit it to the committee.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 04:39 AM
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Can you use mod powers to inflict some painful punishment on OP for just posting a photo of part of some text without a link or anything? I suggest using a ticket punch on the foreskin of people who do that. Some bastard did it with a Cosmo article today too, got a whole thread of people arguing about basically a photo of a clickbait headline and a subheading sentence. It makes us look like rabid dorks.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 04:06 AM
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It is very plausible that the hospital could have been scared of the results, and the more detailed story I read last year gave weight to that theory. Still, that is just a theory. What we can say for sure is that the hospital had no choice but to nuke the study. Running an experiment without ethical approval is a huge no-no, and the hospital would have been complicit if it failed to wipe that experiment off the face of the Earth.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 03:36 AM
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But it is bullshit. There is plenty of research on circumcision. They just tried some cowboy research without getting ethical approval and are whining about getting slapped down. The hospital had no choice.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 03:32 AM
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Circumcision rates for babies in the US have dropped to under half. There is a big lag, your GF's experience of older dicks is no longer representative of what your child's peers will have.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 03:26 AM
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It is just the one guy, he has eclectic interests and is big on self-promotion. The rest of the world hardly ever finds occasion to mention him or his companies. And if you follow links about him, some of them do get redirected to the stock site of the company he is involved in, and another goes to a snake-oil / conspiracy site. And one went to a site that writes essays for students to obtain fake qualifications.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 03:04 AM
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I'm not in medicine or Canada, and even I know his experiment was unethical and exposed the hospital to a stupid amount of legal risk. Any kind of research on humans needs to be passed by an ethics committee. The hospital had no choice but to nuke the project.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 02:49 AM
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He understands nothing about medical ethics. Or more likely from his writing here and elsewhere, he is a megalomaniac who doesn't think such trifling matters should limit a person of his brilliance and originality.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 02:44 AM
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I saw the whole article a year or two back but couldn't see it today, it was interesting for what it said about hospital politics. The guy is a mechanical engineer with very eclectic interests. His claims for his internet - based global research institute cover a weirdly wide range of stuff and there is no evidence on the interned of it being mentioned other that via his own promotional materials. His claim to be nominated for a Nobel Prize seems ridiculous. His favourite books are Atlas Shrugge…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 02:34 AM
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They are the same guy. He also claims to be nominated for the Nobel Prize. Paul D Tinari has eclectic interests, to put it politely. He does a futurism radio show as Mr Future, and has his own consulting company. There is hardly anything about him or his companies on the internet though apart from his self-promotional stuff. He recently wrote this book, which sells for $13: Lymph Mobbed & Booby Trapped: How Modern Culture, the Fashion Industry and Politicized Medicine Conspire to Keep Women Sick…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 02:20 AM
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That's why Amy Schumer needs to be yelled at whenever she opens her mouth on the subject.
/r/MensRights07/11/17 02:13 AM
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There is reputable research done on male circumcision, ImNotMRABut linked some just above here. Medical associations in many countries have declared male circumcision undesirable as a default, and there are moves toward making it unlawful. All that is based on the research. It isn't even a taboo in the US - I think currently less than half of US babies are circumcised. Eight years ago it was 55% in the US and 6%? in Canada. Australia still does a tiny bit too. Apart from that, in western countri…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 02:11 AM
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The mother implicitly consented, though no mention is made of her following the requirement for signing a consent form to protect the hospital. Did the father consent?
/r/MensRights07/11/17 01:47 AM
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"this discussion can end right here" is attractive but I can't let this go. Of course an MRI on an infant counts as experimentation, this is not "monitoring pre-op and post-op vitals". Changing the equipment used for cutting to a non-metallic blade and bell is experimentation too, as is doing the procedure inside an MRI machine, the head restraints, and I guess the magnetic field. I don't know where the line is drawn for requiring ethical approval in Canada but I will note that medical research …
/r/MensRights07/11/17 01:39 AM
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I have a better term for it: it is a bullshit claim. You are jumping to a conclusion based on obviously unreliable evidence. You are responding to a screencap of a fragment of text on a computer screen, formatted as if to be published. There is no link to the source. In my opinion the mods should delete posts like this as soon as they are reported, they are a pox in the sub and make us look like gullible and hysterical. Googling the guy's name and "Pacific Institute for Advanced Study" quickly f…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 12:34 AM
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It might be worth asking feminists what they personally have done to rein in female rape culture, when they are asking men to act. I guess they could point to opposing gender stereotyping, disassembling the pedestal etc. but it would be good to see whether they had thought about it.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 05:48 PM
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Thanks. I'd read some of Michele Elliot's book earlier, it is unfortunate it is not more widely known. People focus on random attacks from the pedo on the street, which women hardly ever do. But the real danger has always been in the home where women do a lot more than most people realise.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 05:46 PM
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Good point, I'd forgotten about her. I haven't looked into the issue of her ideas on classifications in NISVS in any depth but on the surface she said some troubling stuff. Still, having spent a fair bit of time on our support subs for suicide and the various mental illnesses caused by rape and sexual abuse, I can understand her reluctance to put a weapon in the hands of the whackos who want to claim that rape of men by women is an "equal" problem, as I have already seen the odd guy doing on her…
/r/MensRights06/11/17 05:38 PM
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This pisses me off too. It is meant as a compliment but I don't take kindly to having my fellow men dumped on just because I happen to be more suited to the sensibilities of my feminist or feminist-ish friends than most men. It doesn't make them bad people. Similarly I'm not thrilled to be called an honorary woman if I'm with a group of women friends. I'm not the most masculine guy in town but I'm 100% male and it feels wrong to have part of my identity co-opted by women. I've seen a butch woman…
/r/MensRights06/11/17 11:24 AM
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To be fair neither the heading nor the subheading are normally written by the article writer. The heading writer does not necessarily understand the article nor do they always care very much, especially in an infotainment type magazine like Cosmo. Their job is to get people to buy the magazine or click the link. OP is a dick for posting just a photo of the top part of the article without a link though, since the article is much longer and has links to both the research this is based on, and an i…
/r/MensRights06/11/17 10:50 AM
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Same in NZ. Our feminists are like our Christians, generally pretty nice people. And our mall Santa Clauses don't wear body armour or carry weapons. Half of the feminist craziness I hear of sounds more like just normal US political craziness.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 09:39 AM
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Can you name some examples? I only read the mainstream feminists, I figure the extremists are irrelevant to most people.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 09:12 AM
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Certainly academics tend to be radical because they have to distinguish themselves by the originality of their thinking. Craziness is an inevitable outcome of that system. The media are overwhelmingly concerned with appealing to the masses, or massive niches. So I don't see how crazies and radicals will survive in that environment unless as specialists just to write a feminist column. Clementine Ford's feminism is not at all radical. And she attracts attention by her public fights, which is a co…
/r/MensRights05/11/17 12:23 PM
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Feminists are by definition concerned about women's stuff, so it is not surprising if when only women are present they tend to default to talking about the female point of view. Rape by women is a problem acknowledged by feminists to exist, but it is not one that feminists see as a feminist problem they need to work on. I disagree about that. I think feminists' solidarity and reluctance to criticise other women is harmful here. They correctly say that some of the work against rape by men needs t…
/r/MensRights05/11/17 11:27 AM
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No, they sample the whole population and ask whether they had an orgasm last time they had sex, and whether they thought their partner did. The Cosmo - sponsored survey is linked at the top of their article, you should read it. I have seen a few other reputable surveys, the Cosmo one gives similar results. I posted the link too in this thread. OP is an ass for just posting a partial photo of the article, maybe he doesn't read more than the heading and subheading before reacting.
/r/MensRights05/11/17 01:03 AM
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True. The crazies are very much the face of the movement for MRAs though because we have an unhealthy fascination with them. There are guys here who need to believe they are the true core of the movement. Many of the posts on our sub are outrage porn quoting some insignificant anonymous alleged feminist. As if there are not enough genuine crazies, we now have to think about fakes too. If you look at the kind of stuff the Russian troll factory has been caught doing it is hard to believe they woul…
/r/MensRights05/11/17 12:52 AM
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Why is that important? I meant psychotherapist, sorry if that was not clear. I do not think you will be able to find any variety which would be able to contact a patient on FB without it being a clear ethical breach.
/r/MensRights05/11/17 12:35 AM
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Our suicide support subs, and those for the mental illnesses caused by sexual abuse, are full of people struggling against, or resigned to, the idea that they can not recover. And some know they can get better but they choose to stop trying, because they do no expect to get better enough to make the effort worth the fight. There are a huge number of deaths originating in sexual abuse. They get recorded as drug OD, suicide, anorexia, single-car accidents, septicemia from deep cutting, alcoholism,…
/r/MensRights05/11/17 12:19 AM
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That table you linked should be taught to everyone, though it would be destructive to do it before they understand abusers can be female.
/r/MensRights04/11/17 11:57 PM
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That is not my experience with feminists, and I have a lot more of that than most people on here. Denial of F on M rape by a woman is a pretty reliable sign she is a non- or anti- feminist, or maybe a noob. The radical fringe contains all kinds of crazy stuff, I don't pay them much attention. They have some deniers and excusers for sure but I don't think they are a majority. I have often seen feminists discussing rape and when a man raped by a woman contributes his own perspective he has practic…
/r/MensRights04/11/17 11:40 PM
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Same reasons as we do.
/r/MensRights04/11/17 02:59 AM
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Scientists investigate all sorts of things including this. Cosmo is correct on that point. I am on a phone but you can look it up easily I imagine.
/r/MensRights04/11/17 02:28 AM
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Yes. Many threads on AskWomen have oodles of women saying exactly that.
/r/MensRights04/11/17 02:18 AM
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Good bot.
/r/MensRights04/11/17 02:17 AM
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Cosmo is correct, I have seen reputable surveys on this. Cosmo link their own survey at the top of the article, http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a37812/cosmo-orgasm-survey/ but there is little clue to its quality unless you follow the paid link to the full article. It's results seem similar to high quality surveys I have seen. The only decent seeming survey on multiples I have seen found 14% of women report having multiple orgasms. I do not recall any other details. And just because a w…
/r/MensRights04/11/17 02:11 AM
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It is no coincidence because "feminist defenders" was your specific accusation. It makes sense insofar as Tedesche and I both did not learn about feminism by reading scare / outrage stories on here and TiA. MRAS usually know a bit about feminism. But there is so much anti-knowledge here I wonder if the net knowledge is less than zero sometimes. You might like to look up ethical codes for social workers in some English speaking countries. I imagine they might be less strict. But then they deal wi…
/r/MensRights01/11/17 11:55 PM
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I did not back track, I never agreed it was harassment. It was unprofessional and unethical. I hope the university is truthful about him already being under investigation for other complaints. It seems unlikely he got caught in his first FB friending though, and a doc who chases patients is a big problem.
/r/MensRights01/11/17 11:21 PM
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I agree the kind of guys who pay for women's company by buying drinks etc are setting up a shitty relationship and asking to be abused. I have never paid for a woman in my life unless she was broke, and in that case I have more often been the recipient than payer. It has never been expected that I would pay just because of being male, I just stay clear of that sort of people / situation. But why are you so psychopathic about it? I have never told a lie to get laid or attract a partner. I am of a…
/r/MensRights01/11/17 10:45 PM
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Occasionally, if I feel they are including me in the criticised group and I do not agree I belong there. I do not feel attacked by "I hate it when men do X".
/r/MensRights01/11/17 01:31 PM
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We have something far more relevant in common. Tedesche is a medical professional, a therapist. Therapists are at the sharp end of medical ethics as regards social and romantic contact with clients. I lived with doctors for years and was married to a social worker, I imagine their ethical rules have a lot in common. Medical ethics is not just a couple of classes tacked on to the end of the course, it is a substantial subject. So the the Hippocratic Oath, which is only half a page long, is not th…
/r/MensRights01/11/17 01:04 PM
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Are you calling out my claim it is not a remote rural place where FB might be one of the few means of communication available, but a university hospital in a city of 20 million? Are you calling out my claim that contacting a patient socially is a breach of medical ethics in any country? Medical ethics is not a feminist invention. If you do not understand why it is unethical for a doc to contact a patient socially you could consult a book on the subject written before the 1960s, to be sure it is …
/r/MensRights01/11/17 11:37 AM
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sexual abuse by women (which can't happen, because sex is a gift from female to male (paraphrasing a feminist or few)) That attitude is not feminist. Feminists have always opposed the idea that sex is a gift from women. The idea that women can not be sexual abusers is heard from non-feminist women much more than from feminists. I've been familiar with feminism for a long time. . The statistics don't show that F>M rape is an equal problem. The comparable prevalence of "made to penetrate" in a yea…
/r/MensRights29/10/17 02:51 PM
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It is not a myth that by far the biggest problem with rape and sexual assault is male offenders, predators even , and female victims. I know all about the "made to penetrate" statistics and the stats on unilateral DV. I've also seen the stats on the various categories of damage from those, which show men getting a small fraction of the symptoms of harm. I see lots of men on our suicide sub talking about sexual abuse in childhood, but nowhere near as many as women. When it comes to rapes suffered…
/r/MensRights29/10/17 02:03 AM
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The medical ethics rulebook from Planet Blargh on the other side of the galaxy will contain some unfamiliar stuff but it is a good bet it will prohibit doctors from responding to and particularly from initiating social contact outside work. You don't need to know anything about Pakistan to understand some of the basic issues of confidentiality, power, trust, professional distance and professional and institutional reputation involved, and the rules which will naturally evolve to make that situat…
/r/MensRights29/10/17 01:45 AM
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Feminists are like mice. Wherever you go in the world you are seldom more than 1km from a mouse, usually a lot less. Not all feminists have cute furry ears though.
/r/MensRights29/10/17 01:31 AM
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This was at Aga Khan University Hospital in Karachi, pop 20 million.
/r/MensRights29/10/17 01:28 AM
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OP, your link is broken. I have provided a link below. "according to a senior member of board at AKUH, the doctor in question was already under investigation and was given warning due to complaints received by several female staff members and patients". (source below). In case you don't know, it is a breach of medical ethics for a doctor to attempt to make social contact with a patient outside of work. For a male doctor to be contacting an attractive female patient adds a sexual dimension which …
/r/MensRights29/10/17 01:18 AM
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Facebook does not have the ability to automatically send friend requests. I googled "Facebook auto friend request" as suggested by another user and confirmed FB does not have the ability to auto friend people. There is allegedly software you can download and install as a browser add-on to make FB do autofriending in response to specified actions, e.g. you might set it to send a friend request to anybody who follows your page. There were several sites claiming to offer that software but they all …
/r/MensRights29/10/17 12:46 AM
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How is MeToo creating a problem for men? Everything I have seen of it has been positive, though I heard some women were criticising men for joining in. I have not seen that myself. A lot of men have been surprised to find how common it is among the women they know, which was the intended result.
/r/MensRights28/10/17 01:42 PM
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And that's where "femsplaining" becomes useful, because feminists have a long history of making up their own stories instead of asking actual men about our experience. Sure there will often be disagreement about whether it applies or not. I don't often use it for that reason, and I wish everyone else would think more before using it too.
/r/MensRights26/10/17 03:38 AM
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You ask whether feminists recognise a lack of male role models and interaction with adult males in primary and pre primary education is a bad thing. Yes of course they do, they are not stupid. In other breaking news, feminist solo and lesbian mothers recognise both their sons and daughters at all ages need men in their lives. If you think feminists don't care about the importance of adult male interaction as much as non-feminist women, there is a variety of opinions. You might like this article …
/r/MensRights25/10/17 11:49 PM
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Sure it gets misused a lot. The fact that in an argument some people fling anything that looks like shit whether it is genuine certified shit or not, is not a men's rights issue. The fact that people try to insert trendy words everywhere including into places they don't actually fit, is not a men's rights issue. I often see people, including myself, accused of mansplaining by feminists. Sometimes it is fair criticism, sometimes not. Unfortunately the guys most prone to mansplain have the least a…
/r/MensRights25/10/17 11:16 PM
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I read quite a bit about this. She's a nasty piece of work. At the minimum she has a serious addiction to stimulant drugs which are known to make good people into horrible assholes, and her reputation is that she is a horrible asshole. Coincidence, clearly. She was said to use her dealer to physically intimidate people. She acts like a narcissist, which may or may not have been the case before she became a druggie.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:41 AM
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Someone has to tell them menstrual blood is actually blue and a bra can hold together a laptop bag with a broken zip. I don't find it a burden to share my knowledge with fellow shoppers while passing that aisle.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:24 AM
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No. Tedesche explained it perfectly clearly above. I'll extend it to other kinds of 'splaining, for advanced readers only: The defining feature of mansplaining, womansplaining and femsplaining is not that they are condescending when speaking to someone with more knowledge, but that they are condescending because they are talking to a member of group X. This really is not complicated but MRAs get in such a tizz about the perceived insult to men that our brains melt and we start raving about mansp…
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:14 AM
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I talk with a lot of feminists including some extremely bitter ones. I've never come across one who didn't recognise there is a problem with kids in primary education being deprived of interaction with men at school though.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 08:45 PM
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Cross-dress plus camera crew from the local TV station.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 08:38 PM
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But it is not the parents getting educated.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 08:36 PM
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It could be a mistake to say "moms", as they did once. It can not be a mistake to also say "female" three times. The last one is especially pointed. ... one female from each child's family... Females have to be 18 years or older ... Moms are welcome to ... Name of female who will attend:
/r/MensRights18/10/17 08:35 PM
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Most feminists. There is a small minority of radical feminists called TERFs who want to exclude trans women. TE = Trans Exclusionary. Also I think there are places in the southern US where "female" is relatively commonly used for women. It is very common in the armed forces too.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 08:24 PM
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Very few people are naming anyone, which is as it should be. this idea that all who claim to be a victim should just be believed at their word and the accused should be punished without a proper investigation. The thing about believing victims is not about alleged perps being denied justice. It often arises in a situation where there is nothing at stake, the other party is not identified or not known to the victim's friends or family, yet they sometimes feel entitled to be given details about th…
/r/MensRights18/10/17 05:15 PM
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The men posting on it don't share your opinion.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 04:57 PM
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That is weird analogy to use, but I think they are trying to argue for excluding men from the definition of rape because rape of women is a much more serious problem than rape of men (overall, which is true) therefore it is OK to exclude rape of men from the terminology or statistics. The original use of the analogy was in a cartoon, showing Black Lives Matter as putting water on the burning house, and All Lives Matter as people wanting to spray all houses equally. This might be a reference to t…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 10:27 AM
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I think there will be a lot of men posting #MeToo. And a lot who could but choose not to. OP, I hope you are getting specialist help. It doesn't fix itself.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 09:43 AM
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What is so complicated about not whistling at women who don't already know and like you? I've never done it in my life to a woman I didn't know well. If this drives the dickheads who whistle at women strangers to MGTOW then good riddance to them.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 09:20 AM
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This thread is about France. Free speech is just a peculiarity of the US as far as I know.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 09:10 AM
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Legally innocent of technical rape, so what? We are not accusing him of being legally guilty of technical rape. He was not fired for that. He is not being vilified in the press for that, mostly. Did you listen to the recording?
/r/MensRights14/10/17 05:12 PM
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If the facts were in dispute they would be more likely to withhold judgement but in general feminists understand women behave badly and do not condone or excuse it.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 09:00 PM
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I didn't know he was gay, and reaction to this story still made sense.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 08:49 PM
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(Content warning: may contain traces of "listen and believe"). Terry says he felt powerless, and it is a problem for him. That is not "no harm whatsoever". I see no reason to doubt his account either of the situation or his reactions at the time and afterwards, and I have seen a lot of first-hand accounts of sexual assault. It is not appropriate to demand evidence at this stage, especially considering what position that puts the witnesses in. He does not have anything to gain by making this accu…
/r/MensRights12/10/17 08:32 PM
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It breaks the link between physical strength and domination which has prevented men abused by women from being recognised.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 07:27 PM
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Listen to the recording the NY police made for a sting after he sexually assaulted the young woman the previous night. It is just a few minutes where he desperately tries to trick her into coming into his hotel room "to sit down for a few minutes", swearing on his children that he won't touch her again. Listen and judge for yourself what sort of guy he is. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/10/10/harvey_weinstein_confessed_to_groping_model_in_cringe_worthy_audio_recording.html
/r/MensRights11/10/17 05:30 PM
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Here, listen to this short audio recording done by NY cops for a sting but not used. Weinstein admits to sexual assault here. The recording shows a powerless young woman with a powerful man who has abandoned any kind of humanity, desperately trying to trick her into coming into his hotel room. What happened is nothing compared to what obviously was going to happen if the young woman had not been so resolute. The guy is fucking scum. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/10/10/harvey_weinstei…
/r/MensRights11/10/17 05:10 PM
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We don't even have a lie detector that is reliable on normal people. They detect stress, but not the cause of the stress. Traumatised people have been found to be terrible subjects for lie detector tests, which is why the tests have not been used in rape cases for a long time.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 04:49 PM
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That is the nature of rape trials, and investigations, and of the decision to report. At each stage the majority of genuine offenders is let off the hook, so in the end only a tiny percentage of rapists are ever convicted. I suspect the interviewer was trying the line "if they were not convicted, how do we know it happened? We don't know beyond reasonable doubt, in individual cases. It might be dog's-balls-obvious on the level of proof we would need to decide whether to keep someone in our frien…
/r/MensRights11/10/17 04:43 PM
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A photo of a headline and lede is posted alone, with no link to the article. People start discussing it without most of them even having read the article. I think we should have a rule about that - no cherrypicking. If you refer to an article, link it or an archive of the whole thing. This is better than the Vice article: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/09/stereotype-that-women-are-kinder-and-less-selfish-is-true-claim-neuroscientists
/r/MensRights11/10/17 03:11 PM
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No way. You can't get "almost anyone" to pass year 13 high school math. You can't make a technician out of people who lack the "fixing stuff" gene. Many people have poor reading comprehension and will never be able to absorb complicated material. Many people can not write intelligibly. In sales 80% of the sales are made by 20% of the staff. Poor salespeople can be improved but can't all be brought up to acceptable performance. Relatively few people have the mental capacity to get through an engi…
/r/MensRights11/10/17 03:08 PM
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No, it is Vice. Facetious headlines is one of the things they have always been known for. But even if you didn't know that, it would be obvious to pretty much anyone except an MRA that it is facetious. Feminists have been criticised since the 70s or earlier I guess for not being able to take a joke. I see a comparable effect in MRAs, the faculty of humour is disabled.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 01:07 PM
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Going back to 1979 for an example speaks for itself about rarity. There is one other example given, in Baltimore maybe. Is that it for the last 38 years in North America, two cases? But it would be cherry-picking to put the boundary just behind the first case. Let's say two cases in the last hundred years. Or four cases, if we missed a couple. It doesn't change the overall picture. We can add in spree killers and the common subtype of serial killer who attacks pretty much randomly chosen members…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 09:01 PM
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OP correctly points out that a very specific type of violence is almost exclusively performed by men. What is wrong with that? It is not "discriminating" on gender it is just facing the facts. To answer your claim we do not do the same thing with race, we do. We collect statistics and face the facts on the racial makeup of various types of crime. In the US you can look it up in NCVS and in statistics for arrests and convictions. Other countries collect and present statistics by race too, it is a…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 08:23 PM
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What point, that women do different horrible things? Yes, sure they do. But how is that relevant to the current discussion about the decisive influence of maleness in mass murders? It is either male biology or the male gender role or some combination thereof. Since we can't change biology it makes sense to examine the masculine gender role.
/r/MensRights05/10/17 05:24 PM
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Sure, but what proportion of murders involve hitmen? It should not be hard to detect them because there must be an endless supply of useless assholes who will present themselves for hire more cheaply and far more easily contactable than competent hitmen. A decent fraction of these jerks would end up in court, incompetence and inexperience being what they are. So we would know about them. My impression is they are responsible for a relatively small proportion of murders.
/r/MensRights05/10/17 05:11 PM
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Of course Wikipedia is not admissible for academic sourcing. My comment on my experience of accuracy is based on those few subjects I do know a lot about, and from reading the sources provided and finding them in agreement with the Wikipedia article which refers to them. There have been attempts to measure its accuracy in comparison with other encyclopedias, one found it comparable or better than Encyclopaedia Britannica. The accuracy of Wikipedia is a political issue since the demographic of it…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 05:05 PM
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The nature of rape makes it extremely hard to prosecute - no witnesses, no physical evidence other than that sex took place, which is often not disputed anyway. So the conviction rate will always be low. The false accusation rate is a small factor. Most large modern studies estimate it at under 8% (or under 10% for some) so if it suddenly dropped to zero the conviction rate would only decrease by that amount. This assumes the proportion of false accusations which result in conviction is small, w…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 04:33 PM
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I don't see the relevance of this. Leaving aside the Bowling Green Massacre, has there ever been a single case of a US woman even being caught, accused or suspected of hiring or otherwise procuring a man to be a mass shooter? Or a spree killer? Or even a serial killer?
/r/MensRights04/10/17 04:25 PM
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Are encyclopedias ever primary sources? The best ones employ named subject experts who are sometimes authoritative in their field. Wikipedia's are anonymous so it isn't a primary source but I've found the accuracy very good in the few subjects I can judge. It is usually my first stop, I can follow up the sources for more detail. I don't recall coming across significant discrepancies between the source and the article so far. I didn't see any point in checking Wikipedia's source so I said "quotes…
/r/MensRights04/10/17 02:26 PM
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Whole milk is 3.2% fat, 2% fat is 62% of whole milk. Compared to mass shooters where 2% is 2% of the whole number. It is not news that 0% of men are mass shooters, to a very high precision. Calm down, nobody was saying all men are killers. The point is that practically all killers are men. Everybody gets mental illness and the difference in incidents of the relevant types of illness are nowhere near enough to explain the difference in behaviour of mentally ill men. So it makes perfect sense to l…
/r/MensRights04/10/17 05:18 AM
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I don't recall. One was a big study on violent injuries to children done using several years of US CPS data. Another was Australian. There has been a lot of work done on it around the world because it is a common and serious problem.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 05:10 AM
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There was no suggestion to discriminate on gender.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 04:41 AM
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Wikipedia quotes 98%. There may be room to interpret the statistics differently but any way you slice it mass killers (and spree killers, and serial killers of strangers) in the west are are almost exclusively male. A registration law would apply equally to men and women of course.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 04:26 AM
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Wikipedia gave 98% for male mass shooters. No amount of niggling about the statistics is going to change the fact that in the west mass killings are practically all done by men. Same with spree killings. Serial killers are also overwhelmingly male.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 03:46 AM
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I have seen the statistics on children killed by fathers vs mothers. Women kill more children, it was around 60% or less from memory. But it is completely wrong to use that to claim women are inherently more violent toward children. It is just a statistical effect of our childcare arrangements. Women are only more likely to commit infanticide if you ignore contact hours and particularly lone contact hours at home. If you allow for the number of single mothers vs single fathers, and child contact…
/r/MensRights04/10/17 03:34 AM
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There is a slight deviation on the low end caused by various genetic defects, birth trauma, malnutrition, abuse, heavy metal pollution etc. Males have twice the rate of genetic abnormalities including those which reduce intelligence, because brain stuff is on the X chromosome and we XY don't have a spare good copy like XX do.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 03:12 AM
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All true, except it is the US masculine role which leads a significant fraction of men in the US (not in other western countries) to obtain and become proficient with firearms. In NZ a person saying they wanted a gun to defend themselves or family would be seen as a possibly dangerous loony by most people, and if that comment were relayed to police it might be grounds to deny or withdraw his gun licence. I recall self-protection was specifically excluded as a reason for obtaining a firearms lice…
/r/MensRights04/10/17 02:41 AM
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No, because that misrepresents the truth she wrote. Mass shootings (and serial killings) are an almost exclusively male thing. That simple fact needs to be understood by everybody before we can start thinking about how to reduce their incidence, and it needs to be kept in mind at every step developing models and solutions. If a theory or policy does not fit with the fact it is an almost exclusively male problem then that theory or policy is likely wrong. Similarly any theory which does not expla…
/r/MensRights04/10/17 02:10 AM
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I agree on both points. Moderation is very light here. I don't think I've ever been modded in 2 years and I'm often way out of line or directly opposed to the majority opinion. On BLM censorship might not have been the right word. The mods put up a sticky explaining that they had initially been removing BLM posts as off-topic, and asking for opinions on how to proceed since there were a significant number of posts coming in.
/r/MensRights16/09/17 01:39 AM
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The SPLC did not say Rodger was a MRA. They said he had been quite active on PUAhate, the site where men (often autism spectrum or other socially disabled guys) complain how giving heaps of money to PUAs has not resulted in them being able to attract a mate, or even a casual root in many cases. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/05/15/intelligence-report-article-provokes-fury-among-mens-rights-activists Remember few people outside the MRM have much idea about it even now, and in 2012 hardl…
/r/MensRights15/09/17 06:39 AM
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But can literally every understand the words they read in the photo? I explained above why the headline misrepresents both the photo and the article. Did you read the article? You should. You should also read this: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/05/15/intelligence-report-article-provokes-fury-among-mens-rights-activists I think you'd like some of the comments underneath.
/r/MensRights15/09/17 06:32 AM
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Sorry, I get snotty when I'm tired sometimes. The thing is the solo mothers is a full cross section of women including all the poverty-stricken, deadbeat and variously disfunctional ones. The solo fathers are only 10% or so i.e. they are highly selected. Anywhere else in social science that a self-selected 10% group exists, we find it is highly unusual to be comparable to the whole population. In the case of solo fathers there are several very obvious reasons why the fathers who do go for and ar…
/r/MensRights15/09/17 06:26 AM
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Feminists call me a MRA troll. Take your pick. I despise trolling and have almost never trolled in my life, certainly not here.
/r/MensRights15/09/17 06:03 AM
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I know very little about Nazi thoughts on gender relations except I understand they favour strictly traditional gender roles. That won't fit with many MRAs on here but we do have traditionalists too. My suspicion that many Nazis share some MRA beliefs was gained by wandering around a bit in the comments sections in Breitbart, The_Donald, the old CoonTown etc. where some MRA ideas are common currency. I can't think of anything in feminism corresponding to this. MGTOW might be a less weird fit wit…
/r/MensRights15/09/17 05:06 AM
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You presented your opinions as fact. When challenged you offered vlogs instead of a credible source for your facts. All this should have been avoided, by you identifying your opinions as such from the start. Trying to shift responsibility for this timewasting by accusing others of being "triggered" is obnoxious, that is thirteen year old behaviour.
/r/MensRights15/09/17 02:19 AM
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I see a huge imbalance in the number of articles on the needs of non-white cultures. MRAs have practically none and even tried to avoid BLM. Feminists have quite a few articles, and show far more sophistication in their understanding of race than the MRM, which often seems to think 1970's style colour-blindness is the end of human progress on racial issues.
/r/MensRights15/09/17 02:09 AM
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I liked how she does the opposite of what you claim. She doesn't lecture or even speculate on the contents of our impulse to correct. She doesn't say our impulse is always impure, and she doesn't suggest anyone but ourselves should be trying to judge if they are. All she does is suggest an exercise which might reveal more to the impulse to correct a woman than just the desire to avoid bad things happening via ignorance. This is not mansplaining or femsplaining.
/r/MensRights15/09/17 02:01 AM
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Neurologists long ago proved that logical, reasonable thinking does indeed start as impulses deep in the emotional parts of the brain. That's how we decide what to pay attention to and how to approach it. Logical, rational stuff gets added later, up in the cortex. Subjectively we experience our thinking as if it started rationally, but that is very often not true. Our motivations are heavily involved with emotions. A lot of our thinking is not available to consciousness. For example people have …
/r/MensRights15/09/17 01:49 AM
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It is a big stretch to conflate racism from the time before women got the vote with women or feminists today. White men from that time were presumably about as racist as the women. We have all changed. Having been around both, the commitment to fight racism is much more in evidence on feminist sites than it is on MensRights, which seems to think that jumping straight to colour-blindness is feasible and desirable. I haven't noticed any overt racism on this sub, but I seem to recall a bit in other…
/r/MensRights15/09/17 01:17 AM
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The fact that people are sometimes wrong and sometimes should be corrected goes without saying, yet people here seem heavily invested in saying it loudly and repeatedly and in many different words. All this stuff about not correcting a woman's belief about [thing with obvious bad consequence] is avoidance of her point, which is that the impulse to correct women sometimes has more to it than the corrector is aware of. She's suggesting a potential learning experience, for just one day out of our w…
/r/MensRights15/09/17 12:25 AM
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The obvious conclusion is to say that single fathers have more money and assets, and most importantly far less poverty and drug abuse and mental illness and delinquency than single mothers, and that all of those except income above medium level correlates highly with the bad things measured.
/r/MensRights14/09/17 11:15 PM
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Exactly, the comparison is dishonest because male solo parents are have well-known objective advantages compared to female ones. They have more money, are more likely to own a house. I guess they would live in better neighborhoods with better schools, and be more likely to afford a private school, tutoring, health insurance, good medical care including a therapist and any psych meds needed. For an honest attempt at a comparison the fathers would need to be compared to mothers matched for income …
/r/MensRights14/09/17 11:08 PM
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SPLC blatanlty lies and declares MRA's to be "white supremacists" Yet another example of the bullshit headlnes our sub specialises in. The alleged declaration does not exist in your photo, nor in the 2014 article referred to. "the relationship between" groups A and B is not a declaration that group B are members of A in significant numbers. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2014/war-women I searched the SPLC site and got these hits: 0 mensrights 0 redpill 3 mra - but no…
/r/MensRights14/09/17 07:01 PM
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His mother is Malaysian. He wrote a lot of racist stuff. I don't know whether he identified as culturally white, he described himself as Eurasian. He described black and latino men as inferior to white men, and was outraged to see white women with them. He wanted and felt entitled to a white woman for himself.
/r/MensRights14/09/17 06:18 PM
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I suspect many white supremacists share some MRA beliefs, but that does not mean MRAs are white supremacists. I've not seen any on this sub but expect we have a few lurking given our significant contingent of hard right folk and substantial proportion of right wingers. Our black members don't get any hate on the sub, though their PMs would tell the real story. The claim of Nazi feminists is far-fetched. Sure there must be some among tens of millions of feminists but the more relevant fact is the…
/r/MensRights14/09/17 06:02 PM
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How long an absence from campus does it take to wreck someone's academic year? Some courses can be done fully off-campus, but a lot can not or are severely more difficult. What is the delay between a rape occurring and conviction in court? Add at least the appeal window, if that would affect the college's ability to remove a convicted rapist. Note that rapes by a stranger are often reported to police (more than half, I think about 2/3), and if so they are usually reported immediately or within a…
/r/MensRights08/09/17 11:14 PM
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