Sad this isn't talked about more in mainstream...

Blutarg · 2018-03-03T15:26:24+00:00

Society has to talk about important things, like men sitting with their knees apart on the bus.

KingRobotPrince · 2018-03-03T16:29:09+00:00

Fuck that's sad.

Why is it that some women decide that they must punish their ex as a result of a relationship breakdown, depriving their child of a father in the process?

MagicCorn777 · 2018-03-03T21:13:36+00:00

I just got back from birthday lunch with my dad. He fought tooth and nail to get half custody of me and I know I am a much better man today because he succeeded.

It is sickening that many young boys will never have this feeling, because fatherhood is not valued as a necessary component to a child's life.

Dreamio · 2018-03-03T17:31:57+00:00

Can someone fact check that 3 Australian men commit suicide every day for this reason? I agree with men's rights too but let's not circle jerk on false facts like others might

iRoswell · 2018-03-03T15:04:13+00:00

There were 2151 total suicides by males in 2016. That means this meme is attributing (21x52= 1092) roughly 50% of male suicides to “child access issues, child support financial pressure, and unfair family court rulings following separation.”

That seems unreasonable. I’d like to see a source on that.

Here’s my source

mensmod · 2018-03-04T14:21:08+00:00

We have received some reports that call this statistic into question. I cannot find exact numbers on this statistic, but I did find this site:

http://www.mindframe-media.info/for-media/reporting-suicide/facts-and-stats

Some notes:
42 males over the age of 15 committed suicide per week, on average, in Australia
27 males between the ages of 20 and 54 committed suicide per week in Australia.

Additionally, I found that approximately 1/3 marriages end in divorce in Australia. (Obviously, children can be had outside of marriage.)

While it is quite possible that divorced/single fathers make up a larger fraction of the male suicides, it strains credulity to say that 21 fathers commit suicide each week as a result of child access/support, or family court issues.

This statistic is likely false/fabricated.

However, it is plausible that a non-negligible fraction of the number quoted is correct. Half the quoted value is completely plausible, based on the statistics that I found. And while it is not as high, such a number would still be a shocking and concerning issue.

For the people reporting this post: We will not be removing it. Special interest groups manipulate and fabricate statistics all the time. You are free to post your disagreement with the statistic, but people are also free to discuss the issue in other ways.

Also, to that one person who said that 21 deaths per week is "triple the total [suicide] rate". Before you call out someone else's statistics, maybe you should look into your own... 7 suicide deaths per week is 1/7 of the actual value.

Bluelabel · 2018-03-03T19:19:38+00:00

Fuck the Australian child support/ family access system.

I didn't see my son for 18 months.

My ex got a lawyer and filled an IVO (Intervention Order) which prevented prevented me from contacting her or my son in any way whatsoever.

She lied about what was in the ivo and it took me 18 months through the courts to prove everything she said was a lie.

The minute we settled the property and financial aspect of the divorce her lawyer ditched her because she knew she couldn't pay anymore to fund the child access.

All the system allowed was a lawyer to fleece my ex of $70k of equity in property.

It cost me $30k and 2 years later I'm still paying it off.

Drezzzire · 2018-03-03T21:40:47+00:00

Jesus.....

I fucking hate the world we live in

Procyon_Gaming · 2018-03-03T19:40:34+00:00

Lost two friends from this shit

BlaqueDragon · 2018-03-03T18:58:18+00:00

What disgusts me most is how men forced in the corner like this, seeing no way out but to end their own lives...are painted as being "weak" and "cowards". How we're all expected to tighten up our bootstraps and bare the brunt of the 12" cock of financial and emotional ruin being shoved up our asses with no lube...simply because "that's what men do."

No...it's not what men do.

Men provide for their familes. They build. They create. They protect. They fight. They are the foundation, beams and rivets that society and civilation is built on. Our forefathers didn't experience what modern men have to endure because women knew their place. Now I'm not saying women should remain out of the equation. I'm okay with a woman being able to vote and make a living for herself. But IMHO that's where it should've ended.

Now women have complete control over the family structure. If you sire a child and decide not to remain enslaved by her, the system allows her to not only ruin you, but she's also able to turn your child against you knowing that system will stunt every attempt he makes to unsully his name in the eyes of his child. And even in those moments when the child KNOWS his/her father isn't a deadbeat, the mother still holds control cor 18 years. But by then, you've already missed pivotal points in your child's life...all because the mother is scorned that you decided she wasn't your golden unicorn.

FUCK any woman who deliberately puts the father of their children through such horror.

untildeath · 2018-03-04T03:26:03+00:00

What's worse (though often these two go hand-in-hand) is when the mother brainwashes the kid to hate their father. Lost two kids that way :-/ The kicker is that I did all the hard work raising through the baby and toddler years only for her to swoop in when child-rearing is actually easier (and more rewarding) and turn them against me. That's why I'll always fight for mens rights, anyway.

Broteo-chip · 2018-03-03T21:28:53+00:00

I've always suffered from depression, the mom blames me and calls me a horrible father every chance she gets, moved 6 hours away and I hardly get any time with my daughter, maybe once a month. I've always been hard on myself thinking I'm not good enough, but this is something that I need to be good at since I only met my father maybe twice in my life. I always have a huge anxiety attack whenever I have to talk to the mother because of everything she yells at me for, and how it seems she goes out of her way to make me feel worthless. I've told plenty of people she's going to end up being the reason I kill myself. My daughter is the only thing that really makes me happy.

Tardigrade_Bioglass · 2018-03-04T03:58:07+00:00

My brother did this. American, but otherwise it was the same thing.

DougDante · 2018-03-03T16:35:42+00:00

Tweet with me for justice:

1 minute ago

"You won. All I ever wanted was to be part of my son's life" #ParentalAlienation is #DomesticViolence. Fix it @healthgovau @TurnbullMalcolm @dvrcv @NTVorg @AusFedPolice! #Australia #suicidewareness #fathersrights #mensrights https://imgur.com/a/8ejPe#uK8hJz7

scemcee · 2018-03-03T18:13:54+00:00

Every man that kills themselves is one more victory for feminism

UnencumberedPavlova · 2018-03-04T01:31:25+00:00

Whenever I see one of those police alerts about a missing kid, and the person who took the kid is ‘known to them’ I wonder if it’s the father just wanting to see their child and that is the only way they can get access.

darthmeeooww · 2018-03-04T05:13:16+00:00

I'm a mom of a 2yr old boy and if my bf and I ever break up, I could not imagine being such a shit human that I'd keep our..OUR..baby away from him. He is such a great dad, and we've always agreed on how custody should 50/50 (unless for example the mom is unstable then the father needs to have sole custody & vice versa) because in the end the kids are the ones who suffer most. My dad was kept from me during my childhood & it wasnt until I was older did I realize the impact it had on me and my development. Which then led me to resent my mother for being so shitty. Men do not get near enough credit for their parental roles nor do they get fair custody trials/hearings/outcomes. It breaks my heart & enrages me at the same time when women use kids as a means to hurt the father. I hope our world wakes up to the reality, and gravity of what has been going on for years & that men get equal rights to their kids.

xXrenXx1993 · 2018-03-03T21:55:57+00:00

A man hung himself outside of my complex about 8 weeks ago because he was not allowed to see his son, the flowers are still there and I went outside when the police and ambulance where there and saw his body. I live in qld Australia. This is a problem that unfortunately the government thinks they can fix with support groups and helplines. Absolutely disgusting

On another hand, I cut access with my son's dad and took him to court for custody as he molested his little brother and sister, which he admitted, but the family lawyer tried to label me as having a general distrust and dislike of men, which is just not true at all.

YoichiLD · 2018-03-04T02:25:53+00:00

I don’t get it, if people keep treating men poorly we’re literally going to get fed up and just start taking what we want.

cacao1989 · 2018-03-04T07:11:27+00:00

What we allow women to do is just insane... Especially when you know that the father is at least as important to a child than a mom.

2018-03-03T19:42:39+00:00

How long do yall think it'll be until the AFB is labelled a hate group?

The__Tren__Train · 2018-03-03T17:45:15+00:00

ahhh..... so glad I'm not married.

vasectomy scheduled for 3 weeks from now. sips pure zero rockstar

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Thisisnow1984 · 2018-03-04T01:33:22+00:00

Holy shit that's a lot of suicides related to that. Pretty fucked up

darthmeeooww · 2018-03-04T05:15:24+00:00

I wish more women understood that feminism should not equal the destruction of all things masculine or related to men. This is why I dont have very many female friends anymore. This entire feminazi bs has gone too far.

theymademedoitpdx · 2018-03-04T06:06:09+00:00

Ugh. My stepdads gone through this with my stepsister and his ex. He never gets to see her and it’s super tough on him.

stupidname91919 · 2018-03-05T02:23:58+00:00

There are feminists like Amanda Marcotte that insist that a man who has been beaten down to the point of suicide is actually just abusive men performing one last act of violence at their exes.

jp_mra · 2018-03-03T22:27:14+00:00

Obama's mother, referred to by friends as "the original feminist," left the father and independently filed for divorce and welfare. She only let the father see Obama once, ever, when he was 10 years old.

Junkymix · 2018-03-04T01:19:40+00:00

I'm American. What can I do?

Hunter_S_Torsion · 2018-03-04T19:19:19+00:00

This is made up
You’re falling for propaganda

TheTyke · 2018-03-04T21:31:57+00:00

Terrible how divorce courts and the law in general treats these issues. But I do want to point out that committing suicide does the complete opposite of help. Even if you lose a custody battle, keep fighting.

Plus, even if it takes 18 years or longer, being there for your children to come to you means more than words can express. So stay around. Taking yourself out of the picture harms literally everyone.

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BlueOrange22 · 2018-03-03T18:45:10+00:00

We always say things like "o, this should be talked about more." But we don't realize that it's us who have to make that happen. It's like we keep waiting for people to "getting it" before we come out, but that won't happen. We have to lead people to realizing the truth, and that means being uncomfortable in the beginning.

Thomjones · 2018-03-03T21:03:53+00:00

Omg Australian Brotherhood of Father's is a way better name than any of the men's rights groups here.

R67H · 2018-03-03T23:58:32+00:00

Toxic feminism won't stop until we're all in cages

2livecrewnecktshirt · 2018-03-03T22:00:36+00:00

My m no u I ok know

Edit: oops. I don't know what happened here, but I'm leaving it.

TRP_me · 2018-03-04T00:24:02+00:00

Off topic: how many times does a jpeg have to be saved to produce this amount of compression artifacts?

sixtynineningbeavers · 2018-03-04T05:14:52+00:00

r/twoxchromosomes

Nickyjmattyflatsacks · 2018-03-04T05:20:28+00:00

I'll take this in

f__ckyourhappiness · 2018-03-04T09:11:19+00:00

I hope the son sees this and disowns the mom, calling her ever Christmas just to remind her of the father she killed.

bonjellu · 2018-03-23T06:14:16+00:00

Just seems fucking retarded that all this ridiculous shit is going on and people are still acting like lemmings jumping off the cliff getting married to terrible fucking people. Like jesus fucking christ when the fuck does that change? Goddam if statistic in OP is legit that is fucking cunty as hell jesus fucking christ shit's fucked man smh lol... what the fuck.

JStheHammer · 2018-03-03T14:51:28+00:00

Www.theabf.com

Goddamnedengineer · 2018-03-04T13:35:25+00:00

Men need to accept that this is all men’s fault. This is totally within our power to fix, we just have to pull cock from tuck and reclaim authority.

unicorns- · 2018-03-03T22:05:08+00:00

I've never heard of someone having no custody or even visitation unless they're a very shitty person/parent. If the courts had to keep him from being a part of his son's life, perhaps there's a reason.

is_it_fun · 2018-03-04T01:41:46+00:00

I call bullshit and I want the data behind this statement. 2. Ban me.

Title	Sad this isn't talked about more in mainstream...
Author	nansAshes69
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Date	March 3, 2018 2:45 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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