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| 14 | What are your thoughts on the toxic narratives around men opening up to women?Like we also call white supremacism "toxic blackness". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Blatant male dehumanization.Are women's only gyms sexist? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/24 06:39 PM |
| 3 | “Women attempt more”Women use methods of suicide that aren't as successful. They don't want to traumatise the people who find their body and often try to overdose on medication. Oh they're so angelic and caring. It's not at all ever used to terrorize people or blackmail them into giving you attention. Not women heaven forbid. Women don't do bad things you see. Tell me: Is a woman who routinely attempts to commit suicide over a long period really just "failing" out of compassion for others? Get a grip. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:26 PM |
| 3 | “Women attempt more”At best, she's lying by omission. Giving the false impression that her explanation accounts for all the discrepancy which it definitely does not. That's assuming her mind-reading abilities are real with regards to women's incentives for choosing other methods. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 02:58 PM |
| 4 | “Women attempt more”Not all suicide attempts are suicide attempts. But it's impossible to reliably distinguish the one from the other. So there's no reliable data. Also, those who aren't genuine, often do it many times, driving up the average massively. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 02:56 PM |
| 2 | People tend to misunderstand female body positivity on this sub.The story of the American obesity epidemic is a story primarily of government failure and regulatory capture, not a story of "gluttony and sloth." I never used to think of it that way but now I'm coming around. I remember a healthcare worker explicitly advising me to get plenty of carbs and eat lots of bread and pasta. It's only recently I learned how easy it is to control appetite once you break the cycle which isn't even hard to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 08:27 PM |
| 4 | “On the inside, I am a lesbian.” Spanish Soldiers Change Genders From Male To Female To Earn Better Benefits, Extra PayYou don't even need to pray. Just watch the snake eat itself. In the mean time work on yourself and concentrate on what you can control ... however little that may be. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/24 08:08 PM |
| 1 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runSo you don't think there has been any chance in the social acceptable of sex work ? Would you mind rephrasing that question? Women are the ones who have been pushing to reduce the shame of these facets of society. I thought we were talking about feminists. They're not synonymous with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:24 PM |
| 2 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runNothing much about feminism has changed. Superficially it seems to vary but underneath is always and always has been extreme sexism, jealousy and petty self indulgence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:21 PM |
| 2 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runAnd there are also the unintentionally successful suicide attempts. Very hard to quantify statistically but absolutely real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:14 PM |
| 5 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runpeople desperate enough to make a cry for help should get help Agreed. And people who wouldn't be helped no matter how much they cry .... maybe you can bring yourself to say they should get help too. If it's not too much trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:11 PM |
| 4 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runMen succeed at suicide more often but don’t necessarily attempt suicide more often Attempted suicide != suicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:09 PM |
| 1 | feminists do agree with gender stereotypes, just the ones that benefit themI'm not even sure domestic abuse happens more often to women than to men (not counting lesbian abuse because that apparently is the most common in relative terms). Society treats and measures them very differently so we can't compare the reported cases to get an accurate result. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/23 04:33 PM |
| – | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.To a certain extent men are also subservient to women. Every time a man opens a door for a woman, pours a glass for her or gives her his jacket he is also showing submission. That doesn’t mean by any means that he is less than a woman I'm afraid it does mean that. It's literal deference to a higher social status. It's not different than the expectation to bow to royalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 08:28 PM |
| – | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.Submissive doesn’t mean subservient. Really?!! So a submissive man is not subservient and it has no negative connotations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 08:14 PM |
| – | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.So based on this when a woman gives a blowjob she's masculine. That was brilliant! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Western Women are the luckiestWomen create most of their own support groupss and nonprofits and political movents. It only seems that way superficially. They'd have nothing if it weren't for the underlying support structures men provide for them. You're just not seeing those because you take them for granted. Like all privileged people tend to do. You think the suffragettes were liked or listened to in the beggining? Given that most women weren't even on board with the suffragette movement, they were disproportionately succe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 08:16 PM |
| 0 | Western Women are the luckiestIdk if you’ve seen the statistics and data that I’ve included in my comments I don't need to see them because I know that none of them prove the statement false. but so far they are not showing any discrimination against men in terms of education They don't have to for the statement to be true. Also OP never linked any studies that prove that there is gender based discrimination that causes the disparity between men and women Why should they prove a claim they didn't make? The problem is you're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 08:07 PM |
| 0 | Western Women are the luckiestThat's not how things work. Men don't get to have that kind of support. Society can't afford it. It relies on men providing and protecting which means they cannot be or even look vulnerable. Those who have tried to create such support groups have wound up ostracized or dead. Women cry and society provides. Men cry and society purges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Western Women are the luckiestThat’s because we make our own social support systems. Which is only even possible because of what men provide for society. Barring few individual exceptions, women have created nothing besides offspring which is what the females of all species do (granted that is uniquely difficult for human females, more so than any other species). Women are basically passengers on a free ride to immense unimaginable prosperity while also getting to decide where the ride goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:56 PM |
| 7 | Western Women are the luckiestMost men aren't valuable as life partners. Translation: "most men I've found attractive aren't valuable as life partners and because, to me, my personal experience is indistinguishable from universal truth so anyone contradicting that must be totally insane or evil". The way you try and dismiss this problem using sexual terms like "tingles" and actually believe many women are "sharing" I don't know if many women are sharing. I suppose it depends on how you quantify "many". I do know that men are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Western Women are the luckiestWe agree then. Regardless of variables, that is the luckiest group. I'm afraid not. Because there exists a group that is more lucky than the luckiest of the luckiest: The luckiest of the luckiest of the luckiest. Like I said, it's silly to play that game. It is. It isn't for the reasons I said. In short: desirability is determined by discrete subsets of the population. I.e. they're not measured by the same standard. Charlize Theron compared to Leo. Can you please find a better and clearer exampl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:39 PM |
| -1 | Western Women are the luckiestthe point is that it could not “point to discrimination.” Apparently you don't understand words. Let's be clear: saying "could point to" implies nothing other than that there is the possibility (however remote) that discrimination is involved to some extent (however small). In other words, you have one hell of a task ahead of you if you wish to prove that statement false because you'd have to prove that is impossible for any discrimination to have any causal effect in that disparity. Good luck! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:25 PM |
| -2 | Western Women are the luckiestto say that men face discrimination seems a bit of a stretch u/shmupsy didn't say that though. They said "could point to discrimination". The stretch here is to pick up on that and start an argument. Even more ridiculous than me pointing out that mistake to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Western Women are the luckiestAgreed. ‘The luckiest’ is a narrow definition. Not at all because "the luckiest of the luckiest" is much more narrow. /s Don't blame OP or the initial scope. No matter how well you define it, one can always play your trick on it. Who are there more of? Highly desirable women? Or men? Men. Overwhelmingly, men are found to be less attractive. So they're not very lucky. Or desirable. Compared with women. Tack on status. Wealth etc.. Making these few men by far, much more rarer. So now you've swappe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 11:07 PM |
| 4 | Western Women are the luckiestAre not Western Women. It’s highly desirable men. Are nothing compared to highly desirable women. Not even close. This is a supremely silly argument game btw. Anyone can narrow the scope with qualifiers like "highly whatever" to find an even more lucky group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:16 PM |
| 22 | Western Women are the luckiestThis seems to be a consequence of women's own mate selection strategy. Most men also want a long term partner. If women really did prioritize a lasting relationship I doubt it would be hard for them to find one. But if you just pick what makes the lady parts tingle right now then you're going to have to share. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:11 PM |
| 50 | Western Women are the luckiestdont these same reasons make western men the luckiest too? Yes, after western women. theyre rich, have educational opportunities and social support systems. The last one is true for women but not for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:06 PM |
| 0 | Western Women are the luckiestThis is not a women specific thing. People generally don't appreciate what they have. Women just have more than men but the behavioral pattern is pretty much the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:04 PM |
| 3 | Why don’t women want men to help fix things?"your dress is beautiful" she thinks "she complimented my dress, and I'm wearing it therefore she's complimenting me, she's saying that I get well in this dress". There seems to be a typo in there. I can't parse that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?They’re acting like I forced these dudes to pay. they could’ve gone out with a 50/50 girl. Would you have gone 50/50 ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 09:38 PM |
| 2 | If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married?I would postulate that the relationships you see are the result of a man who had to try many times to find this one woman and a woman who rejected many men before she said yes to this one man or had many men and now has this one. So this is how it could work: at any given time, 80% of women find dates and 20% of men. The women are either sharing the same men between each other and it can go on indefinitely. And/or, over longer periods, some of the 80% of men eventually find a woman. The numbers … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 08:28 PM |
| 0 | Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by menSome women make a point of telling everyone how much they're being hit on. Those are the less confident type who seek validation. And some women really are hit on all the time. In my experience those tend to not broadcast it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity isn’t toxic, it’s the tonic society needs. An interview with therapist, Professor Miles Groth. — The Centre for Male PsychologyWhat would be "healthy masculinity" to you? | /r/MensRights | 31/10/23 07:40 PM |
| 4 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.There's a reason why every romance story catering to women is almost identical. And there's a reason why that market is so big. Sure you can always found an outlier but there are far fewer female outliers than male. Men are objectively a far more diverse group of people than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 07:21 PM |
| 5 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.On the same note I’ve always wondered if wearing expensive clothing and accessories was a way both to show off status and to keep away men who couldn’t afford it. It seems a number of men are actually scared away by very well dressed women. I've known women who dressed very classy and were frustrated by that. Interesting dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 07:08 PM |
| 9 | You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith.I’ve read a few times that some women hate being asked out by guys they deem ugly because they hate these guys thinking they have a shot. Because it's an insult to them. They see such men so far beneath them that merely entertaining the possibility of getting together challenges their status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Danny Masterson's wife stands by him for his whole trial. He's found guilty, so she divorces him.The cool thing about stories like that is that if you get in trouble you can just say "but surely she doesn't need a man to do anything for her" - and say the word "man" with the utmost disdain. Hey you're just being respectful of her beliefs ;) | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonRight, that's because we call it anti-semitism lol. Are you one of those people who are unable to understand a hypothetical or are you just pretending? You seem to be misunderstanding that toxic masculinity is a description of the way men interact with each other. No. Not even close. It has nothing to do with how they treat other groups. I'm wondering how anyone can misread something so badly that you manage to interpret that into what I said. I'm losing confidence in your capacity to process th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonBecause it's absurd to name something malevolent done to a part of the population as a subset of traits of that population. We don't call anti-Semitism "toxic Judaism" or telling women to get back into the kitchen "toxic femininity". The failure was in your ability to put together a coherent sentence. Which sentence in that comment was incoherent and why? Be specific! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonLike I said, it's a bullshit definition. Not understanding it isn't a failure on your part. They don't want you to understand it for what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonAnd you’re making the assumption that the traits we’ve socially determined to be masculine must be the domain of men and men alone. They must at the very least be mostly associated with men. That's what "masculine" means and anything else would render the word meaningless. Women can also have masculine traits but, by definition, it must be rare or they wouldn't be masculine traits. Don’t women provide for and protect their families? Not on the scale that men do and they're certainly not expected… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 09:50 PM |
| 0 | What percent of women monetize sex?So you understand that it's not far fetched to think of dates where the guy pays as not so easily distinguished from prostitution. Your own reason for paying half so as to not go down that road indicates this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 09:45 PM |
| 0 | What percent of women monetize sex?You pay for dates because there’s a possibility for sex? I'm not talking about myself but apparently you are talking about yourself with: Personally I just pay half because I don’t want anyone to get the wrong idea. What idea? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonNo. You're trying to play the cheap trick of hiding behind implications. There's an easy test: have them describe non-toxic masculinity and not wind up arguing that women can be all those things too and concluding that one may as well just not have gendered traits at all. I dare you to go to a feminist sub and accomplish that. more likely you'll just get banned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 09:26 PM |
| -4 | What percent of women monetize sex?So the transaction turns from being a purchase of a product into the purchase of a chance to receive a product. It's still a financial transaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonThis is the most common used standard definition for toxic masculinity. No. The standard definition of toxic masculinity is the enforcement of gender roles on men. It's total bullshit but it's the one they settled on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonSo more people can learn that dogs are engaging in rape culture or that glaciers are sexist and math is misogynist. It's like we're in 2014 or something with feminists telling people to go read feminist theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Women's preferences in men wont allow us to reckon with toxic masculinity anytime soonThey say it all the time by implication. The entire concept of TM is based around vilification of masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 07:49 PM |
| -3 | What percent of women monetize sex?Depends on how explicit the payment has to be to qualify as monetized sex. Arguably expecting the man to pay for the date is already there. In that case the answer is that most women don't need to go out of their way to monetize sex. Just dating normally is likely to have a lot of resources coming their way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Men's complaints about the state of dating all come down to this one inconvenient truth...This is not said or realized enough. Though I'd add one brutal exception: age | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 07:42 PM |
| 6 | Transgender man - do I fit in here?Yeah let's all party our way down into the abyss :D May as well. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/23 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Transgender man - do I fit in here?I'm a long time member and I'm far from gender conforming myself. It's not an issue. On the contrary, your perspective should offer valuable insight into the gender discourse here. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/23 02:56 PM |
| 2 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?Maybe you're taking this a little too personal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 02:38 PM |
| 3 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?You asked what was wrong with wanting equality while wanting a traditionally masculine man. I pointed out that it's a contradiction. That is a problem you can't just cover up with platitudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 09:16 PM |
| 5 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?Is there something wrong with wanting more equality between women and men while also wanting a traditionally masculine man? Because it's a contradiction. When you say "traditionally masculine man" what you're describing is a unidirectional flow of resources (from him to you in case you didn't realize). That's not reconcilable with equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 08:29 PM |
| 6 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?I'd like women to understand just how unreasonable their demands towards men are. Just imagine your man had the same demands of you and you'd run a mile. I'd like to understand how women who have such demands expect to form any kind of bond with a partner. In order to get close you'd need to at least meet them on the same level but that's impossible when you see them as little more than a utility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | How would you know if you are discriminating against men? — The Centre for Male PsychologyYeah this is another version of what I've been saying for years. People claim women are so oppressed compared to men but they just look at all of women's problems (real or imaginary) and assume men just don't have any. Likewise they look at all the things the top 0.1% of men have and assume that's inherent to all men. | /r/MensRights | 30/04/23 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?I agree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 08:34 AM |
| 2 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?eg: Dominique Strauss-Kahn who was director of the IMF and a candidate for the French presidential elections - until he got accused by a hotel maid who was found to have lied and despite the charges dropped his career was over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 08:33 AM |
| 2 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?You mean like Dominique Strauss-Kahn who was director of the IMF and a candidate for the French presidential elections - until he got accused by a hotel maid who was found to have lied and despite the charges dropped his career was over. "Lmfao" Pathetic - being condescending while wrong. Don't bother replying. Just learn more instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?The issue of false accusations was just one example. But it is also greater than you think. It's not just down to false rape accusations. That's just one form of a general assumption of guilt on the part of men and innocence on the part of women. Another example is how relationship troubles or breakups are so often blamed on the man regardless of what happened. Even if the wife cheats, it's not unusual that the social circle excuses her behavior and blames him for it. So while you might think fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?Understanding the cause keeps us from trying to apply solutions that can't work and possibly make things worse (like blaming men for the patriarchy for example). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 12:11 PM |
| 3 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?You seem to be reversing cause and effect. The reason men ask women out is because they are under greater selection pressure. The former is a consequence of the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?No way. Top women have the world by the balls. Literally. And all the proof I need is how easy it is for even a lower class woman to destroy a top men with a mere accusation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 07:28 PM |
| 2 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?I'm not even sure how good that dating life is. Sure they get a lot of female attention but it's probably not that unlike hiring escorts. They just smile and laugh at every joke regardless. No substance. No authenticity. But I have no clue. I'll get back to you when I'm rich and famous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?It's an interesting thought experiment but I don't think you can expect a useful answer. Most women are completely unable to imagine that situation with all its implications. They've never been confronted with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 07:23 PM |
| 6 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?When women get stalked, everyone jumps to come and protect them and blow the stalker to hell. When a man gets stalked, everybody comes to protect the stalker and blow the man to hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Does feminism meet the definition of a hate group?They all have misandry at their core premise to some extent. The mildest form are those that claim to want equality and blame the patriarchy for sexism. As for wanting a seat at the table, you know what feminists would say if the situation were reversed: "build your own table". And for once I think they're not completely wrong. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 06:14 PM |
| 3 | Does feminism meet the definition of a hate group?That's the story you've been sold. If you inquire into the history of feminism you'll find it absolutely rampant with misandry since well before the 20th century. If anything it's gotten less direct about that lately. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Men, have you had the conversation about 'your fair share of chores'?Yeah if women ever got to actually swap with men, they'd probably kill themselves. Oh wait. One woman did just that and killed herself. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/23 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Men, have you had the conversation about 'your fair share of chores'?Try swapping your chores. She has to do your job, cook dinner and do the dishes, and you do her job, laundry etc. Let the experiment run a month or so, so that you both have time to settle in your new roles. And don't forget she's responsible for your safety now too. May as well swap ALL chores. "chores" lol | /r/MensRights | 02/03/23 10:31 PM |
| 4 | Helping you understand positive masculinity and toxic masculinityRegardless, the list is arbitrary at best. You either don't have any idea what you're talking about or you're trolling. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/23 06:57 PM |
| 8 | Helping you understand positive masculinity and toxic masculinityNone of the things listed are inherently masculine. Neither the positive nor the toxic ones. This also contradicts the established definition of toxic masculinity which describes expectations society places on men. I suggest you inform yourself before taking it upon yourself to educate others. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/23 06:42 PM |
| 4 | Would you date a man if you found out he’s paid for sex in the past?Many claim is to feel they are liked, that the men is actually interest in them, or just to feel feminine and properly seduce. This is hilarious! Lucky women that feeling feminine just so happens to coincide with receiving resources :D Do you not see how you're making my point for me? Pick one: Either it's normal for women to exchange their time with men for money and then prostitution is a perfectly logical component of that society. Or prostitution is some kind of abomination and women expecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 10:23 PM |
| 3 | Would you date a man if you found out he’s paid for sex in the past?Sure. Thanks for letting me know. I'm sure the explanation was perfectly coherent ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 10:14 PM |
| 6 | Would you date a man if you found out he’s paid for sex in the past?At least the mother fucking woman actually wants to sleep with you! And is enjoying it, while the prostitute is probably trying to think she is in a forest while doing it. How do you know that? If she really just wants to sleep with the guy, then why does she need financial compensation through courtship or any kind of compensation for that matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a man if you found out he’s paid for sex in the past?He is talking about prostitution which is not the same at all. How exactly is it different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 09:31 PM |
| 1 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.My mistake. I thought I was talking to the same person all this time. The question to me was only if any moderator action is required. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.None of that answers my question. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.Answer directly please. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.Sorry. Somebody is spamming the report button at the moment. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.Please keep in mind that the report button is not for removing comments you disagree with. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 07:04 PM |
| 0 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.So what are you trying to accomplish? | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 07:01 PM |
| 0 | To male victims: you have a right to be believed. Nobody should be able to tell you that you’re lying.This is not the place for posting about issues you have with individual users. If somebody is out of line, report them. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | 'Go Back to School' : Man Goes Viral for Destroying Entitled TikTok Fitness Influencer In Heated Argument When She Demands He Move Benches Because He's Ruining Her LivestreamGod you're dumb. You seem to think men are invincible. Even without the exceptions (where some women are stronger than some men), everyone is weak and helpless at some point in their lives. Young, old, injured, sick or just fucking sleeping. And as for the rape comment, if you count out anything besides physical force, then a ton of rapes of women disappear. Something tells me you'd like to keep counting those since you probably love the idea of women being helpless victims. Besides yes women ca… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | would you lose interest in your man if he lost in a fight to alpha ChadI think you're describing what ought to be rather than what is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 06:20 PM |
| 1 | would you lose interest in your man if he lost in a fight to alpha ChadHow do you do that without either being physically very imposing and/or outright threatening? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | would you lose interest in your man if he lost in a fight to alpha ChadHow does one deescalate by being more dominant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 10:39 PM |
| 2 | would you lose interest in your man if he lost in a fight to alpha ChadIn this case too, the best solution would have been to ignore the disrespectful man instead of enganging and talking back. Telling disrespectful people to be respectful is often futile anyway. Like idk why he should defend his GF. Why care for what people who don't matter say anyway. They're not worth entertaining. That's like telling him to dump her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 10:25 PM |
| 1 | From my observations and ancedotes, another type of men women seem to be attracted to that TRP doesn't bring up very often are not straightup assholes/douchebags are men with a high sense of justice, including both self-justice and justice for othersI'm saying that men's lack of ingroup preference cannot be down to tribalism because tribes necessarily include multiple men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.People sometimes split up because of unforeseen tragedy, so it's not always jut a lack of commitment or falling out of love or whatever. What tragedy isn't better dealt with together? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 10:10 PM |
| 1 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.I think it would be easier to ask you to up your IQ than to talk to you. Good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 10:09 PM |
| 1 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.If it's just about state benefits then one can just make a fiscal decision whether it's worth the risk and for men it usually isn't. Think of it as an investment then. And keep in mind beauty is a depleting asset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:35 PM |
| 2 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.Nobody starts a business wishing it would fail either. Hey I'm all up for treating it as strictly business. But if most men did that, there wouldn't be any marriage because it's such an abysmally rotten deal. Fact is marriage is a thing precisely because people are not treating it that way but are romanticizing it and making purely emotional decisions. In that way women are often smarter and more pragmatic. If the situation were reversed, there would be no marriage because women would never expo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:29 PM |
| 3 | From my observations and ancedotes, another type of men women seem to be attracted to that TRP doesn't bring up very often are not straightup assholes/douchebags are men with a high sense of justice, including both self-justice and justice for othersNice try. Not really but still better than just crying "misogyny". Tribes obviously include fellow men. In fact, in an immediate danger those are a lot more important. Think more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:25 PM |
| 2 | From my observations and ancedotes, another type of men women seem to be attracted to that TRP doesn't bring up very often are not straightup assholes/douchebags are men with a high sense of justice, including both self-justice and justice for othersDishonesty is such a waste of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.If it's just about state benefits then one can just make a fiscal decision whether it's worth the risk and for men it usually isn't. Think of it as an investment then. And keep in mind beauty is a depleting asset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | The AWALT Belief Hurts Men's ProgressionSo if nature is ruthless, is it futile to even try? Try what? To beat the odds and successfully reproduce? Sure. But trying to change nature or pretend it's not that way and live a fantasy, no. By the way I don't believe nature to be ruthless because the very nature of how every single one of us living today hold our existence to our ancestors of the past. How can one have such a distorted perspective? You think that today's generation of extremely fortunate survivors are proof that the natural … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:19 PM |
| 1 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.They care about n-count for example. Only for marriage or having kids. Majority of marriages are between people of the same socioeconomic status. Do you deny women marrying up and men marrying down? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 09:02 PM |
| 3 | From my observations and ancedotes, another type of men women seem to be attracted to that TRP doesn't bring up very often are not straightup assholes/douchebags are men with a high sense of justice, including both self-justice and justice for othersAnd why do you think men don't have an ingroup preference? Think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.They don't care because they can't afford to care. If men were to filter out women who earn less than they, it would make dating even harder than it already is. In a highly competitive situation it's unrealistic to expect competitors to hobble themselves so severely. Divorce rape will only go away if women stop expecting a surplus of resources to be given to them. Not gonna happen so we're stuck with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 08:41 PM |
| 5 | The experiences of this subredditor are the new normal and show why men should be wary of marriage, especially if they are naive enough to believe in love in the long-term.The whole point of marriage is that it's supposed to be permanent. If you think it might not be, then don't do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 08:35 PM |
| 3 | The AWALT Belief Hurts Men's ProgressionYou really haven't the faintest clue about TRP let alone men. So why do some men have low value? That's how nature selects. It's ruthless. Grow up! Who says so? Those who do the evaluation. Usually women. Surely by virtue of being a male makes him high value if red pill is to be believed? Being male means you have to earn your value (unlike women who are valuable just for being women). Because it's competitive, many men will inevitably fail. TRP simply understands this and gives advice on how to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 08:24 PM |
| 5 | From my observations and ancedotes, another type of men women seem to be attracted to that TRP doesn't bring up very often are not straightup assholes/douchebags are men with a high sense of justice, including both self-justice and justice for othersTotal BS. If women prioritized a sense of justice in men, the men's rights movement would be popular. It isn't. So they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 08:13 PM |
| 1 | I need urgent help please!I suggest you contact your local authorities. This isn't a place to get people to report an account nobody here knows. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/23 07:05 PM |
| 13 | It is kinda arrogant how many women openly say they know men very well, and yet they keep falling for bad relationshipsThat's fucking hilarious! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 09:02 PM |
| 0 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Women no longer require men to have their own security Really? Then why are women a net drain in the welfare system? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Would you trust someone who had the same dark thoughts, weaknesses and behaviors as you?Ok this comment has lowered my expectations considerably. Has it occurred to you that 1) nobody truly knows who or what they are so being obliged to inform others is asking for the impossible and 2) some mystery can be a good thing - I mean how many romances do you know where the lead characters spill out all their flaws and weaknesses in 100% revelation? And 3) People are complex and it's quite possible to just forget to mention some things. In fact if you can reliably list everything there is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Would you trust someone who had the same dark thoughts, weaknesses and behaviors as you?Basically, would you trust someone like you? Try not to deceive yourself. Be honest. Yes! It's an interesting question and I thought about it carefully before coming to an answer. The bottom line is that, whatever dark thoughts or character flaws I have, I know that I have no malicious intentions to anyone and make a genuine effort to make things better for people in my life (and beyond). Can't ask for more from anyone else. Would you warn your partner about your negative traits? This might be d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?Defiantly not, ey? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 10:41 PM |
| 1 | What do women mean when they say they want to feel protected by a man?It seems you do not understand the female experience. Actually I understand the female experience a lot better than you or most people would expect. And I sympathize with your problems even if it may not seem that way to you from this exchange because I'm not grovelling at your feet for some approval. Rather than teaching men not to harass under any circumstance, you want to tell women to not be attractive? The former is impossible because harassment of women is subjective. The latter is at leas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 10:46 AM |
| 1 | What do women mean when they say they want to feel protected by a man?I think I will deal with harassment from men for another 20 years of my life, so your comment to just “wait it out” is nonsensical Only if 20 years is longer than you expect to live. Technically not even then. impractical It's probably easier to not dress up and try to stay attractive so doing nothing is indeed more practical in this context. unhelpful Unhelpful at what? What are you trying to accomplish exactly? I’m also pointing out that older women still face crimes like sexual assault, so ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 09:42 PM |
| 1 | What do women mean when they say they want to feel protected by a man?You said specifically "young attractive female". I presume you realize that you won't always stay young. Hence the problem will be solved by time. I don't know what else you think you read into my commet nor does it matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 09:07 PM |
| -1 | What do women mean when they say they want to feel protected by a man?When I’m alone I get followed, yelled at, approached in the street by rough looking men. That is the reality for a young attractive female. Just wait then. Time will solve that problem for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 08:58 PM |
| 10 | Hellow peopleI wish you the best of good luck but I have a feeling it isn't going to be too successful. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on the notion that "men cause their own problems"?Why thanks! | /r/MensRights | 05/12/22 09:44 PM |
| 5 | What are your thoughts on the notion that "men cause their own problems"?I wasn't criticizing you or your post. I was really just adding to it. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/22 08:26 PM |
| 9 | What are your thoughts on the notion that "men cause their own problems"?I'd also like to add that who the fuck cares whether the murderer shares some traits with the victim? I mean if somebody you know gets murderd and it turns out the murderer had the same sex/race/etc. you probably wouldn't you say "well in that case they practically did it to themselves". It's incresible to me that people think that somehow makes male victims not victims or lesser victims than women. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/22 08:04 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on the notion that "men cause their own problems"?Anyone who unironically argues that men are doing this all to "themselves" is also saying that women are immensely superior to men (presuming they believe women aren't also responsible for their "plight"). So ask them, do they think men and women are equally competent? And if so, why would only men be sabotaging "themselves" but not women? And if they think women are that much better, then why aren't they running the world? How do those completely incompetent, self-sabotaging men manage to keep … | /r/MensRights | 04/12/22 08:01 PM |
| 165 | How could you find out if a woman is feminist and what her actual beliefs are?Jokes aside, there's no quick way to establish this because most feminist women don't live what they preach. Some will and you'll notice very soon when you offer to pay for the date. Others will gladly enjoy the perks of female privilege only to then complain about lack of equality. And rather than focusing on feminism, I'd suggest you learn to spot toxic behavior in general. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Rampant misandry in the AirBnB sub: I wanted to understand why they wouldn’t rent out to men. Turns out all men are disgusting and destructive.You know I have to say, I respect how this comment really comes from the heart. It really seems like you believe what you're saying and I appreciate that. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/22 07:05 PM |
| 9 | Do women have it better than men these daysYes. Easily. There's no contest. A brief look at statistics pertaining to living standard (such as health, safety, education etc.) all strongly favor women. The fact that this remains invisible to so many people, is itself one of the privileges of being female - you get priority treatment by default and still get to believe you're "punching up". | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do people love shitting on men?Except things have gotten a lot better for everyone, women in particular, over those same thousands of years. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/22 10:24 PM |
| 4 | Do feminists even realize how narcissistic they sound?Pity "your" kind of feminism is never the one that enacts any policy. You just sit quietly defending feminism while the sexists push misandry as hard as they can. Neat little arrangement. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 07:06 PM |
| 1 | This feminist thinks masculinity is about violence and oppression of women.Like can't you throw in a "give it to me" or something during early foreplay? I really cannot understand how one can be in a relationship with a partner who can't even bring herself to express her attraction and/or desire for sex. Surely there must be some kind of mutual desire. Sometimes I wonder if such women are just trying to maintain some kind of plausible deniability in case there are future regrets. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 07:34 PM |
| 5 | This feminist thinks masculinity is about violence and oppression of women.That's not a coincidence. Feminists wallow in weakness and fragility. It's perfectly consistent with the narrative that women are just objects, things, play-toys of the powerful masculine patriarchy. It's also why male feminists are disproportionately more likely to be sexual predators. I mean what better place to be if you're a predator than in a group that thinks women are helpless victims and nobody believes them and you get away with everything? | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | This feminist thinks masculinity is about violence and oppression of women."treats women and girls like human beings equal in value to himself". That makes him a sexist or misogynist according to mainstream standards. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 07:18 PM |
| 2 | TERFs and the uncanny valley of feminismYes. They're not "transphobic" they're just misandrists or "androhpobic". The proof in their own beliefs: TERF's by definition don't think that you can transition from male to female. They think trans women are just men. That's all. And because they hate men, they therefore also hate those that they believe are just pretending to be women. And what's "worse", they're men trying to get female privilege. Literally everything feminists of any variant do can be explained by misandry. I wonder why th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/22 08:32 PM |
| 9 | Is toxic masculinity the modern equivalent of female hysteria?its annoying because the patriarchy is an important idea but it mustn't be conflated with masculinity. Well what do you expect if it's called "patriarchy"? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Warning to feminists on this subLet's see some evidence. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/22 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Stop aggressive women and avoid domestic violenceYou just said there’s no data but now there’s plenty of data? Don't make a straw man and then try to claim you've found a contradiction. Firstly, there is more than one thing in the world. So there can be data for one and not for the other. Secondly, I didn't say there was no data on the one. I said we can't rely on the data we have for the reasons I gave above. Well I’m saying we do know. Because statistically it’s proven What I wrote above refutes that though. And simply insisting that it does… | /r/MensRights | 14/04/22 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Stop aggressive women and avoid domestic violenceOkay and if there’s no data for it how are you proving what you’re saying? Because there is plenty of data on unequal treatment of men and women in the justice system. Arrests, charges pressed, convictions and sentencing is all much harsher on men for the same crime. To be clear you’re trying to tell me women commit more DV crimes then men? No. I'm saying we don't know. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/22 05:40 PM |
| 12 | Stop aggressive women and avoid domestic violenceMany cases of domestic violence perpetrated by women onto men are never counted. In general, female crimes aren't counted like male crimes. Whatever data you have that draws a comparison has not taken that into consideration and is therefore not valid. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/22 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Ukrainian border guards arresting draft-eligible men trying to flee and congratulating them with the international women's dayI'm sure during peace time one can join the military to learn skills but once the enemy is invading your home, that's where one should be, right? I'm not an expert but it seems that Ukranians would be better off with an armed civilian population than adding untrained conscripts to their hopelessly outmatched professional army. Perhaps the same for Taiwan. Are these orders even to join the army or just to not leave? | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Ukrainian border guards arresting draft-eligible men trying to flee and congratulating them with the international women's dayWhat if one stayed to fight the invaders (to protect home and family) but refused to join the military (because one is against the government)? | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 09:01 PM |
| 3 | Ukrainian border guards arresting draft-eligible men trying to flee and congratulating them with the international women's dayThere's a time for everything. And while being attacked by a foreign power, isn't it. I'm not trying to argue. I'm just trying to understand your view and how it might apply to some people. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 08:35 PM |
| 11 | Ukrainian border guards arresting draft-eligible men trying to flee and congratulating them with the international women's dayFair enough. But what do you think about people who believe their country has turned against them or betrayed them? Or if they just don't value the nation state as a meaningful tribe to defend (vs say family or other groups)? | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 07:34 PM |
| 17 | Ukrainian border guards arresting draft-eligible men trying to flee and congratulating them with the international women's dayAre women who leave also cowards? | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Ukrainian border guards arresting draft-eligible men trying to flee and congratulating them with the international women's dayI suggest both of you leave it u/Starmind0 and u/nokianich | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Australia: Write to Members of Parliament to improve Domestic Violence legislationWomen are even more privileged. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/21 07:08 PM |
| 2 | NZ Human Rights Commission says, women you are amazing and important, men, please stop hurting peopleThis is how it typically goes down: Someone will suggest some traits they think would constitute non-toxic masculinity. But very quickly they get accused of sexism by "what you're saying women can't be those things ?". Then they quickly backpedal and everyone winds up agreeing that it's best just to not have any gender roles. Then they go back to talking about toxic masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/21 09:28 PM |
| 1 | NZ Human Rights Commission says, women you are amazing and important, men, please stop hurting peopleThat's true for women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/21 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Teaching consent to girlsCan you stop abusing the report button? | /r/MensRights | 16/11/21 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Scientific article stating that on average men are stronger than women removed from Instagram and Twitter for violating Hate Speech rules. Dark Horse Podcast #100 (time = 21:30) (Via Rights.Men)I believe men do actually die quicker naturally because of the extra stress on the cardiovascular system from testosterone. You can believe it but that doesn't make it true. Higher testosterone is associated with shorter life spans to some extent although it's only really by a few years. No. It's an attempt to explain the life expectancy gap. One that has not withstood testing. I think it's even because there aren't that many meaningful differences and the ones that are there are distributed bet… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/21 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Scientific article stating that on average men are stronger than women removed from Instagram and Twitter for violating Hate Speech rules. Dark Horse Podcast #100 (time = 21:30) (Via Rights.Men)But why do you think it's even? Oh and men die quicker even excluding unnatural deaths. Actually this has been debunked. Men live under greater hardship in general which leads to lower life expectancy. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/21 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Scientific article stating that on average men are stronger than women removed from Instagram and Twitter for violating Hate Speech rules. Dark Horse Podcast #100 (time = 21:30) (Via Rights.Men)Men are better at some things, women are better at other things. Do you think it's roughly even overall? I'm asking because most people who say this, seem to be implying or assuming some kind of symmetry but I have yet to see any basis for that assumption. Especially considering the nature of sexual dimorphism. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/21 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Scientific article stating that on average men are stronger than women removed from Instagram and Twitter for violating Hate Speech rules. Dark Horse Podcast #100 (time = 21:30) (Via Rights.Men)It's not that men are better than women. It's that men are more diverse and thus, at the extreme ends (in this case world champions) you'll find more men than women. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/21 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Women have the privilege of being sexist as long as they are "joking"How do you square your assertions with the fact that women are statistically much better off than men? | /r/MensRights | 13/07/21 02:59 PM |
| 4 | I came across this old comment talking about the feminist movement, patriarchy theory, and how reaching back to dictionary definitions is disingenuous at best.That was 4 years ago? Damn. And we thought things were bad then. Am I going to say that in another 4 years? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/21 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Women who falsely accuse men of rape should be given the sentence the man would have gotten.This is hard to quantify in general, but individually, you can ask yourself which is the worse thing to have done to you. And then ask yourself why. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/21 08:56 PM |
| 12 | My list of studies showing we care more about women than men.Depends on how much of it is hardware and how much is software. I suspect that most of it is the latter and therefore possible to change. The reason for my suspicion is that much of the treatment of women is down to a treatment of the vulnerable and the reason men don't benefit from it is because they are not seen as vulnerable. Now society might not be able to afford seeing men as vulnerable. Yet. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/21 07:59 PM |
| 5 | Women who falsely accuse men of rape should be given the sentence the man would have gotten.Morally I would agree. In fact, I'd say a false rape accusation is potentially even worse than rape itself. Problem is, in practice quite a few of the false rape accusations are revealed as such because the perpetrator comes clean. It's possible that harsher punishments might result in less of that. It's just something to consider. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/21 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Woman falsely accusing him of rape, wins 1.5m - Gets sued for 2.6m after admitting it was all a lieI think some of that is also down to men constantly volunteering to save women (from whatever). Both are playing this fantasy of damsel in distress and knight in shining armor. So women learn that opening as a victim is basically beginning the same old story and she's "offering" you the role of savior. I think your reaction is probably best (aside from avoiding the situation in the first place). | /r/MensRights | 08/04/21 02:37 PM |
| 8 | For the femlurkers: Do you ever plan on actually deplatforming misandrists of your communities or are you just gonna preach to men about the potential of feminism to help men?Femenism means equality for both men and women. Why would you name something like that "feminism"? It's an obvious contradiction. Think about it. Those who preach feminism tend to twist its meaning to something horrible. Of course they do. What do you expect? If you named a movement for racial equality "white-ism", who do you think that will attract? Even if the original intentions were genuine. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/21 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Sudden memes about missandryYet, you're not on feminist forums saying the equivalent there, right? So apparently you don't believe your own bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/21 05:31 PM |
| 2 | There is no implied social contract. Don’t do things you don’t want to do, and don’t expect anything in return.I see you're committed to your stance. Far be it for me to interfere with your show. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 03:58 PM |
| 1 | There is no implied social contract. Don’t do things you don’t want to do, and don’t expect anything in return.I doubt that. I want to eat pizza but I also want to be healthy. Can't always have both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 03:24 PM |
| 1 | There is no implied social contract. Don’t do things you don’t want to do, and don’t expect anything in return.What do you do when those conflict? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 06:23 PM |
| 1 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.If a woman wants to spend enough time with her kids to shape them more than school or the media but still wants or needs extra money, part time work is the best of both worlds. Then she'd be better off spending no time away working and letting her husband earn by himself more than both of them would have earned part-time combined. Hell she could still work from home on top of that. And ideally she will have been working full-time and already accumulated a decent amount of wealth coming into the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 09:16 PM |
| 1 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.What you need to understand is that earnings and success in general, grow in a curve, not in a straight line. That's regardless of the nature of employment, the population or even the entire system. That's why those at the top don't just have a bit more than those at the bottom. They have way more. Always. But not realizing that is why most people opt for things like part-time work or even worse strategies that ensure they stay poor or close to it all their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:53 PM |
| 1 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.You don't know much about finances. A deficit I strongly suggest you correct for your own sake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:40 PM |
| 5 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.What’s her “skin in the game”? If marriage carried the same risks for women that it does for men, there would be no marriage. That's the only thought experiment men need to make to be properly vaccinated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:37 PM |
| 1 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.Earnings aren't linear. Sure two people can work part-time for one combined household but it's potentially far more lucrative if just one of them works full and overtime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:29 PM |
| 3 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.So you live for years with somebody knowing they betrayed you and you will abandon them the moment you can? I mean it does seem like you have little choice so this isn't a criticism of your actions now but damn if that isn't a good example of why any man should avoid getting in such a situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:27 PM |
| 2 | There is a disconnect between men and women. Online dating is deepening the divide.Being a provider doesn’t mean just money. A provider is a problem-solver, a protector and someone who has your back in tough situations. Wouldn't it be nice if that was reciprocal. Tough luck for men I suppose. Not sure how you expect to get close to someone under those circumstances though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:22 PM |
| 7 | Japanese man uses face editor to look like a woman in order to get more social media followersFor every CEO there's a homeless man and a suicide victim. There's probably a lot more of one than the other. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/21 09:15 PM |
| 1 | An example of feminist historical revisionism: "the rule of thumb" as a legalized form of wife abuseAll these rules (real or fictional) on how women can be beaten. Apparently it escapes people that the absence of such rules on how men can be beaten does not mean that beating men is off limits. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/21 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Stop having arguments with feminists, they don't care about you, and they literally hate you.What? | /r/MensRights | 12/03/21 04:20 PM |
| 2 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."Faking what? The empathy or the lack thereof? I honestly can't tell. It's not like there aren't plenty of examples of people with that much indifference towards male suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 07:24 PM |
| 4 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."For women perhaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 07:21 PM |
| 1 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."What kind of serpent do you have? I don't mind snakes. I knew someone who kept a python in her apartment and it was kind of cool how it was mostly free to snake around. But arachnids. Nope. Sure they're interesting but creepy as f. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 07:21 PM |
| 15 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."I'm not telling you what to do in your hypothetical scenario that conveniently allows you to be without empathy while maintaining moral virtue. I am telling you that, if you're going to answer OP, do it honestly and just say you don't care. Don't pretend to be empathetic "as long as they're not assholes... which they all are". Or at least be smarter about hiding it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 09:09 PM |
| 3 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."Why don't you just arm yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 08:55 PM |
| 10 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough.""I always feel sorry for a homeless man, until he starts asking for money, or spirals into a stubborn, immovable, pity-me depression. Which is pretty much every time, eventually" FTFY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 08:52 PM |
| 9 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."That's ridiculous. What was he supposed to do? Of course he wasn't physically able to. The solution here isn't "get a bigger guy" (like we're talking about some dog). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 08:40 PM |
| 35 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."This. Or what if it's more than one assailant. This idea of a lonely protector is a childhood fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 08:37 PM |
| 3 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."Oh f***. You probably have to feed them live mice etc. right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 08:28 PM |
| 1 | The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MENAre you sure you don't have an unrealistic picture of women's capabilities? | /r/MensRights | 14/02/21 04:06 PM |
| 3 | Denmark launches sexual consent app where lovers can give permission ‘for one intercourse, valid for 24 hours’ in the wake of new rape laws.Soon it'll be a fetish ;) Ironically, if it ever did come to draconian standards, women would be the first to complain. It's precisely the lack of clarity of the rules through which they maintain their control. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/21 04:22 PM |
| 3 | My problem with “toxic masculinity”This is all of societies fault. It's nice and easy to just blame "society" for everything. Men and both women push men to be as masculine as possible and this has had terrible effects on men. Why would men do something that is so harmful to themselves? Are they just stupid? Toxic masculinity or extreme gender roles hurt men. Why not stick with "extreme gender roles" as a term? | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 07:56 PM |
| 3 | My problem with “toxic masculinity”Thats what toxic masculinity is. Society pushing men to be so manly that it leads to... Why would you describe something done to people as an inherent trait of those people? That's like calling racism "toxic blackness". If you're wondering why men have it harder than women, it's because society has decided that men that aren't manly enough are losers. No. Men have it harder because of greater competition for a mate. All the other reasons stem from that. Thats what toxic masculinity is. The conce… | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Denmark launches sexual consent app where lovers can give permission ‘for one intercourse, valid for 24 hours’ in the wake of new rape laws.One step closer to a requirement that legal counsel be present during intercourse. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 07:47 PM |
| 7 | Male strippers called "Your Piece Of Meat" by their companyI suggest you think about it the other way round: who is humanizing us and why? What separates us from animals and what has caused that to change us relative to animals? | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 11:09 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainMany women, including myself, would want to have men’s “problem”. I would give anything to be ignored when I leave the house, take jogs, etc. Shave your head. In fact, if I have to leave the house at night I dress as a man so I get left alone. Omg that must be terrible. People thinking you're a man. How dare they?! We are forced to do all of these things just to feel a sense of normality No. You have a choice. Men don't. so you must understand that coming on here and listening to all these men c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 11:20 PM |
| 4 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainThose women will complain and will go on the internet to do it, just like how incels do the same. Except they don't get treated like incels do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 10:58 PM |
| 1 | I really hate it when someone says "teach men not to *insert violent crime*", "toxic masculinity*, and any other buzzy words.but remember, your post was attacking and was a reply to mine That's why I said I replied to the wrong person. Or did you miss that too? | /r/MensRights | 18/01/21 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Toxic MasculinityResearchers have defined it, in part, a... Can you define it in whole? And before you start typing, think carefully because I will read very carefully. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 09:39 PM |
| 2 | I really hate it when someone says "teach men not to *insert violent crime*", "toxic masculinity*, and any other buzzy words.What you missed was that this question was challenging the feminist to come up with what they think might be positive masculine traits. Get it now? You're barking up the wrong tree. More than you realize actually. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 09:30 PM |
| 6 | I really hate it when someone says "teach men not to *insert violent crime*", "toxic masculinity*, and any other buzzy words.You seem to think that people want to erase masculinity but that is absolutely not the case. People say that's not what it means. I even believe most of them think that's not what it means. But the usage and application does indeed match perfectly with that intention. Toxic masculinity is when masculinity goes to such extremes that it hurts people. Everything taken to excess starts to hurt people. Just use the word "excess" and you have the same meaning but without the gendered and therefore sex… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 07:30 PM |
| 3 | I really hate it when someone says "teach men not to *insert violent crime*", "toxic masculinity*, and any other buzzy words.Wow slowly. It seems I replied to the wrong comment. Though you might also want to read a bit more carefully too. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 07:30 PM |
| 12 | I really hate it when someone says "teach men not to *insert violent crime*", "toxic masculinity*, and any other buzzy words.You seem to think that people want to erase masculinity but that is absolutely not the case. People say that's not what it means. I even believe most of them think that's not what it means. But the usage and application does indeed match perfectly with that intention. Toxic masculinity is when masculinity goes to such extremes that it hurts people. Everything taken to excess starts to hurt people. Just use the word "excess" and you have the same meaning but without the gendered and therefore sex… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 06:24 PM |
| 2 | MathYes, there is variation in what women want. But there is a set of traits which, in a man, will make him more desirable to a supermajority of opposite-sex-attracted women Wait, you mean to tell me women have agency and make decisions of their own? Here I was thinking they were just helpless, passive objects of the patriarchy - thrusting its privilege into their tender, infantile flesh of victimhood. Let's go ask the feminists to clear this up... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 08:17 PM |
| 2 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.I'd be the first to talk about restrictive gender norms. Not at least because I break many more of them than most. But don't you see the problem with calling that "toxic masculinity". It's like describing antisemitism as "toxic Judaism" or racism against black people as "toxic blackness". We don't say telling women to go back into the kitchen is "toxic femininity". It's absurd to name an injustice imposed on a demographic as a trait of said demographic. Especially if that's done by the very move… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 09:56 PM |
| 2 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.If the problem is men don't want to be vulnerable, then we should take better care of vulnerable men. This is a magnificent sentence. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 08:52 PM |
| 2 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.Toxic masculinity exists only as juxtaposition against helpful, positive masculinity Define "helpful, positive masculinity", then take that definition to feminists and watch them say "but women can be all that too" before concluding it's best to just say masculinity is whatever you want it to be. its not saying that all masculinity is toxic Actually it is, just not explicitly so. It defines TM as a subset of masculinity. Only it cannot and will not be held to examples of masculinity that isn't t… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 08:47 PM |
| 0 | Student Kicked Out Of Class For Asking Feminist Professor How Women Are Simultaneously ‘Powerful’ And ‘Helpless Victims Of Patriarchy’...yet. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/20 07:22 PM |
| 65 | Student Kicked Out Of Class For Asking Feminist Professor How Women Are Simultaneously ‘Powerful’ And ‘Helpless Victims Of Patriarchy’Today's satire is tomorrow's reality. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/20 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.They "learn by themselves" to do it. Why? Because it's what works and what is required to survive when you're not catered to just for existing. That's exactly what I'm saying. Feminists go into this discussion assuming men aren't already making informed decisions for themselves. I guess what would be needed to share your emotion is "blind trust". Thing is, this is EARNED. I think it's worse than that even. The bottom line is that men have to be useful in order to have value. And when they show w… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.It's not the "toxic" part of the label that's the problem. It's calling it a trait of men (i.e. "masculinity") that's the problem because it suggest 1) that men are somehow doing this to themselves and 2) that it's unique to men. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.You might enjoy this post I wrote a while back on the subject. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.Toxic masculinity is when ppl belittle or shame men for being themselves Why would you name something done to men as a trait associated with them? That would be like saying "toxic blackness is when people shame black people for having dark skin". It's absurd and incredibly unjust. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Quick review of the science: The most common traits described as "toxic" (grit and strength) are actually good for us. They reduce depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. They also improve psychological well-being, life satisfaction, meaning in life and academic outcomes.The problem is the transition is fluid and highly variable from situation to situation and from person to person. There's absolutely no way to reliably distinguish toxic masculinity from non-toxic masculinity. Also, what you're describing is just excess and we already know that anything taken to excess can become toxic. There's no reason to single out masculinity for that. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.Just because someone is talking about one issue doesn’t mean they are trying to belittle another. If you want to talk about the unfair treatment of men in today’s society I would be happy to. I believe in equality of the sexes and that applies to both women AND men. I can completely get behind that paragraph.Let's hope there is more to come... But we were talking about how women are treated by men in today’s society. So I don’t understand why you are trying to change topics. I'm not. Only if you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/20 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.Who else are to blame other than the oppressors? The mistake here is to treat a hypothesis as an axiom. And I have answered that: biology. Or, nature if you want. Just because they decided that “i guess we should actually treat women like human beings” doesn’t forgive the literally centuries of sexism. Up your standards. This isn't about "forgiveness". It's about having a coherent belief system. And if men stopped oppressing women, then you should ask yourself why and, in particular, why now and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/20 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Men's focus on casual sex makes less sense as they near their 30'sStop lying the patriarchy by far and large benefits men by ensuring them a mate without patriarchy and all that sexual policing of women most men wouldn’t mate at all. Women have a higher living standard than men by virtually if not literally all metrics. So the opposite of what you said is the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/20 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Milton fried-man on how the equal pay act could harm women. Libertarianism all the wayYou realize that there are other options, right? Companies having to be employee-owned, basic income in relation to maximum income, automation's generated value actually being transferred to minimize work hours for humans? Sure. Go for it. That's the benefit of free trade. You are perfectly free to build a company with a unique structure and payment system. All libertarians argue for is for the economy to be that one field of society to be as lawless as possible. The problem is you don't seem to… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/20 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.But you seem to believe that men are in no way responsible for the female beauty standards set by men for men. Tell you what, I'll acknowledge men's role in female beauty standards if you acknowledge women's equivalent role in male "beauty" standards. Sounds fair? Before you jump to a response, think carefully about it. And men aren’t responsible for the decades of oppression of women and its effects In the modern day. The problem with this is that it's an extremely short-sighted and one-dimensi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/20 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.I made list of the beauty standards that women have Of course you did. Like so many others. And just like them, you saw men don't have most of those so you concluded that women must have more. The mistake is (eternally) that you didn't make such a list for men. You only looked at it from one side. And that you didn't compare how each sex deals with those standards in the opposite sex. I.e. how is it penalized when there is deviation? Almost every way a woman might fail at being beautiful, there'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Milton fried-man on how the equal pay act could harm women. Libertarianism all the wayYou "how the world actually works" guys are so cute. So you'd rather not know how the world works. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess you'd have told me people owning other people or kings being in control through hereditary power is just "how the world works". No. That's a cheap shot. All libertarians want is an infinite darwinian power struggle, no thanks. No. The problem is that it's that anyway. The question is only if you're going to create an artificial winner that winds up oppressing ev… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/20 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Milton fried-man on how the equal pay act could harm women. Libertarianism all the wayTranslation: "I want good things so I'm right duh haha and I'm too stupid or can't be bothered to learn how the world actually works. So I'm going to just say the people who disagree with me that they must want bad things so they're wrong... and bad. Duh haha I'm good." Not impressed. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/20 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.Fat is by far a man's number 1 criteria. And even that has many exceptions. In fact, for almost if not every deviation a woman might have in looks, there's an entire subculture of men who have a fetish for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.I didn’t say women don’t pick men for their looks they do. I didn't say that you said that. Try to read more carefully. But the expectations for male looks is less than that for females. That is the part that's just not true. Yes men are degraded by women for their heights and their body size, muscle capacity, etc. But women have much more going on. Such as? You can not compare inanimate objects to human beings Depends on what you're looking for. Why are you telling me this? You can not compare … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.Men marry/date more for looks than women. No. Women are far more picky when it comes to looks. The reason you think otherwise is because you're only thinking about criteria applied to women. Not those applied to men (such as height for example). In short, you're making the classic mistake of looking at the "plight of women" and ignoring anything that affects men negatively. And women marry like that because a history of sexism that they’ve had to face. You couldn't possibly be more wrong. This i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.This is absurd. You make the common mistake and compare looks in men and women on an entirely feminine scale. That would be like saying men go for unattractive women because they tend to go for women who are shorter than them. It doesn't work that way. What's attractive in women IS NOT THE SAME as what's attractive in men. You can compare how picky the sexes are with regard to looks though. But you have to do so within the confines of what each sex finds attractive in the other. Not just who wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 06:18 PM |
| 2 | To men, is *everything* you do just to attract women? Is there any self improvement that you do only for yourself?I can relate to this so much. I remember how shocked I was when, just for laughs, I treated girls literally like sex objects and their reaction was, not to laugh, but to flock around me. But it was just an act of humor to me. And, yes, nothing is as soul destroyingly lonely as being with a partner who wants your act rather than you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/20 07:51 PM |
| 1 | To men, is *everything* you do just to attract women? Is there any self improvement that you do only for yourself?With all respect, you're a noob at turning off women. There are more effective ways. Try being nice to them for a start. That's a quick and easy deal breaker to get you started with most advances. Some of the more desperate kind might still be around though so you have to up your game. Such as being respectful. I know it's coming down pretty hard but some need to be shown the door more directly than others. But if someone still hasn't gotten the message then you might really have to go nuclear a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/20 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Men have a much harder physical standard in order to be attractiveWtf this place is looking like menslib with all the deleted comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/20 08:04 PM |
| 2 | The men's rights movement is helping to solve misogyny and the "incel problem" by addressing the root causes of that hatredDoes it occur to anyone to ask why men are more violent - given the circumstances? I mean, we have more empathy for dogs apparently. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/20 08:30 PM |
| 5 | TRP and FDS might be effective but it won't make you truly happy or let you experience real love.Well many countries have similar laws for "marriage-like living arrangements" in order to catch them. But, more importantly, when it comes to anything in the realm of abuse or the accusation of it, the state will come down hard and very one-sided. As will most of the acquaintances. The truth is, men and women are in such different circumstances that there is an extreme imbalance that keeps them from really getting close and pairing up in the romantic sense. There is one way to circumvent that pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 08:19 PM |
| 9 | TRP and FDS might be effective but it won't make you truly happy or let you experience real love.I mostly agree with you but I think there's one thing you haven't considered in this post: Sure, if you love somebody you take the risk of being burned and most people would agree that it's worth the risk. IF it was only between you and them. The problem is, with men and women, there's a whole state apparatus behind her not to mention most of both of your acquaintances. If things go bad, it will be the man's fault and he will walk away alone and without support except from his most loyal family … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projectionThey haven't. They have been especially neglecting that part and are being misguided in what actually makes women an attractive relationship prospect Female competition has not gone away. It couldn't go away. You may perceive a lack of competitiveness but that's more a result of sexual liberation and possibly a romanticizing of the past. I'm not saying they won't have relationships or marriage out of some male gender solidarity. I'm saying they themselves won't want to get married. We already ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:16 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projectionThere are lobbies and powerful people that do control things....Not in the sense that they want what's good for you. What I'm saying. Sure but they'll try to gain an advantage over other women by becoming attractive relationship prospects to men . They've been doing that all along and we're where we are. The other problem with this reasoning (besides what I mentioned above) is that it relies on men collectively acting in the interests of men as a group in order to leverage bargaining power with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:10 PM |
| -2 | CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projectionI don't think you understood what I wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 08:01 PM |
| -2 | CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projectionWhat will probably happen is some massive decline until the powers that be decide it's time to finally fix the problem. There are no "powers that be", nobody who takes care of us or guides the world. There are just individuals pursuing their own interests. No politicians are thinking "hey let's see how we can make society better". They're just saying what they think will win approval. Although my personal prediction is that women will start self policing again because they won't be able to get m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:50 PM |
| 1 | How much of female love is performative?Everything's a performance. Besides an actual knee-jerk or equivalent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Sexual selection vs environmental selection: The effects of hairLong hair is also to some extent about class. Many elaborate long hair styles required somebody else to do them. Short hair on men is about being practical, a worker and about being part of the team. So having long and very healthy hair indicates a high living standard. Even today. Women typically find long hair on men less attractive because either they don't take care of it which is generally bad or they do and that indicates that they care about themselves which is a big no no. Men must provi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 08:03 PM |
| 1 | New Polices for the Current CrisisWhat gives you that impression? edit: and how are you digging this up from history? | /r/MensRights | 16/05/20 07:32 PM |
| 5 | Research shows that when women aren't given preferential treatment over men, people see it as sexist and misogynistic. Could this explain, in part, some of the hostility to the men's rights movement?It's the ultimate irony that the privilege-blind were those who came up with the concept of privilege blindness. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/20 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is the root cause of both the wage gap and the child care gap. It doesn't just harm men, but also harms women.Divorce law and child custody / child support reform would be a good start. But you realize that's just a symptom of the problem? Even if we did somehow make it equal, one generation later, it will fall back into place. If women want to sell out for money then I guess that's their preogative. But it would send a strong message that they can't scam or abuse the system. But the very fact that the system is so slanted is itself one of the scams in the first place. When the entire game is rigged, as… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/20 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Lets see who's 'genetically superior' when we have a cage fight.Actually I think the vast majority of women are sexually aroused by the idea of submitting to a man. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/20 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do many TRPers tend to resent women for their preferences when those preferences make them better?Do you want to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 09:06 PM |
| 0 | Why do many TRPers tend to resent women for their preferences when those preferences make them better?^ The privilege of having 2 and 2 and not knowing what it could possibly have in common with 4. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 08:44 PM |
| 21 | You don’t need a pill to understand why marriage is not a good idea and why the vast majority of the general population is not suitable for itActually I think we do it extremely well. The problem is that "till death do us apart" has a very different meaning today than it did most of history. And that we've developed pretty reliable contraception and made birth relatively safe and predictable. Those are good developments of course but we're currently making choices based on feelings and instincts that are suited to a time when we didn't have those developments. That's going to have consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 08:23 PM |
| 2 | New Polices for the Current CrisisOh that's such a boomer method. Having to explicitly give instructions. No no. These days we just guide people's thoughts onto the correct path using back-end code that the admins provide free of charge. They're such good people. And now, thanks to them and our moderation, so are you! You're welcome. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/20 03:02 PM |
| 1 | New Polices for the Current CrisisAnd no, I'm not any kind of mod. Too big a pain in the ass. translation: been on the mod couch but it wasn't a good fit... | /r/MensRights | 03/04/20 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.The body is the same, the person is the same. Depends on whether you define person with respect to the memories of that person. Adding new memories would be changing them in that case. The action is not a characteristic of the body, it is something that the body does or doesn't do. No body can function without taking some form of action. Even more complex actions can be traced back to physiological characteristics. Because the value of a body does not change based on the actions it takes. It doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.When the ability to counter entropy is lost. When is that? Unless you want to change the definition of death into something reversible, surely that point must be pretty far past the point where that ability is lost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.Learning is changing neural connections. It doesn't matter how I or anyone sees it. The point isn't whether it's that or not. The point is whether it's just that? No different from random changes? Sure, a man (a body) can create value through action. But that does not make the man valuable, the results of his actions are. The man (body) is the same whether he creates value or not. Whether he is homeless and lazy or works at a hospital curing the fucking coronavirus. It is clear that the value is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.To be alive is to be thermodynamically unstable. To be dead is to be thermodynamically stable. You said death occurs when we become unable to counter entropy and the body tends toward thermodynamic equilibrium. Was that just imprecise wording? If not then is the moment of death when that ability is lost or when the state of thermodynamic stability is achieved? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.Do it first. You don't get to assume my position and be right about it at the same time. I'm not assuming. I based it on what you wrote. Doing anything else would be improper. Learning and development are just functions of the body. They are just physiological changes. There is no proof that anything more than matter and energy exist. Fair enough. But you do realize that most people conceptualize themselves as more than the sum of the physiological parts? Specifically, with respect to the learni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.Come on. This is literally explained by physics. What is literally explained by physics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.In other words, you're interested in precisely what it becomes when it's no longer just a body. Your own language reveals that thinking: what was just a body is now a "working body". And if we pursue this further, you'll add further qualifiers that distinguish the human from the body. None of your attempts to slightly nudge the goalposts, get past my initial objection: if it really was just a body, there would be no significant difference between life and death. It's not the only problem with yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.Does a body instantly cease to be a body at the precise moment of death? No? Then it's still a body after death even without preservation. And hence there's no significant difference to you but I doubt that's what you really believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.And why would that matter if you believe humans are just bodies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Men actually have it far better than women when it comes down to it.If humans were just bodies then there would be no significant difference between life and death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?Are you aware that height does not vary sufficiently across regions to enable anyone to find a place where they're at least average height? Lilliput is a fictional island in case somebody never told you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/20 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?Why don't you answer my question: What do you think single mothers do to get resources for their children? You really think a father’s only role is in providing food? Food isn't the only resource. Try to not outright start with a straw man. That’s not the mainstream view of fathers at all. If that were true we wouldn't constantly see fatherhood under scrutiny and outright attack while motherhood is beyond reproach - practically deified. I am all for everyone having the right to control what or w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/20 06:17 PM |
| -1 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?Well the evidence is on you to find. What did women contribute to civilization besides their offspring that mattered? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/20 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?They can move to a country where their tall. Lol and poor people can just move to a country where they're rich. I can't take you seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/20 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?Every man who can't get sex has only himself to blaim Yeah. Fuck those short guys. How dare they be born. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 08:37 PM |
| 0 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?You are acting like the responsibilities traditionally assigned to men supersede or are more necessary than the responsibilities assigned to women. Depends on whether you want civilization or just raw survival in nature. Women's contribution has been little more than what the females of all sexually reproducing species contribute: offspring. Civilization with all its accomplishments are largely the result of the surplus in male labor. You might say women contributed in the sense that they select… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?The state in no way takes the place of a father. What do you think single mothers do to get resources for their children? What do you think fathers have done since before civilization itself? If you're saying the state is a poor replacement of fathers in terms of upbringing for the child, I'd be 100% in agreement. But the sad story is that people, mothers in particular, don't see how important fathers are to a child's development. Men are seen as little other than a liability. The fact that wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?They will work and keep society running because they want and need money. The problem is that society relies on men providing more resources than they receive. If you change that so that men only work for themselves, then society won't be able to sustain itself in the long run. Either it will have to cut back massively on benefits and women will be the first to complain or it will continue until it falls apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 07:56 PM |
| 10 | Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex?What is it that men provide and get nothing in return? Basically everything. Look around you. Somebody has to maintain the infrastructure that enables everything else to work. Most people take it for granted. That's one of the big problems of masculinity: it's been so effective at making life easier that it's rendered its own necessity almost invisible. For example, working a job and paying taxes is not exclusive to men 1) Men are net contributors in the tax/welfare system. Women are net receive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/20 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Men get sick more by the coronavirus, wamen most affectedI just have the most recent example off the top of my head here. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/20 06:59 PM |
| 1 | What's your view on r/purplepilldebates?I have only sporadically stopped by there and, from what I've seen, the user base seems to slant more towards red pill than feminism. But there is both there. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/20 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Men get sick more by the coronavirus, wamen most affectedBrainwashed into not wanting responsibilities? Ok. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/20 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Men get sick more by the coronavirus, wamen most affectedWomen only recently have been allowed to drive. Are you aware that many women were against that change in law? Why? Because not being allowed to drive meant they got driven around. It's not all what it seems if you only look at it through a Western progressive lens. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/20 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Men get sick more by the coronavirus, wamen most affectedIt's not as one-sided as the media bubble would have you believe. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/20 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Why are women 4 times less likely to kill themselves than men?You forgot: 4- compared to men, women aren't are privileged I believe that is the most likely explanation. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/20 08:57 PM |
| 1 | The reason why men feel “lied to” by society about what women want is because, what women want, and what emotionally/sexually arouses them, are two different questions that we never differentiatedI still have to ask why most women seem to settle for a guy a league below them? It's quite common for women to go for lower status men because they feel the odds of them being faithful are greater. And they probably are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Women’s attraction to tall men: social or biological?Duh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 07:57 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.This has been going on for days and we don’t agree so there’s no reason to do. Well I'd have thought that not agreeing is itself a reason to check one's statements for coherence. Otherwise you don't really know if you actually agree or not. Also you know what you wrote. Actually I don't memorize everything I write on reddit. One of the benefits of having a consistent set of beliefs and principles is that you don't have to keep track of everything you say. If you don’t remember I quoted enough fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 08:58 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.I didn't even make it through half of your comment before it became incoherent from what looks like repeated unintended negations. I suggest you re-read and check. Then get back to me. And while you're at it, try to quote a bit more context rather than just the first three words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/20 06:27 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.Your paragraph about empathy was meaningless It's only meaningless to you. And that's only because you have no need to empathize with men. You can just judge them from a position of privilege and shrug your shoulders. it assumes that illogical behaviors don’t exist It doesn't (learn to read better) but, that not withstanding, if you think you've seen illogical behavior, while I'd put my bets on you just being ignorant about the logic behind them, I'd still like to see some evidence for their exi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menIt's a rare quality. At least on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menHey thanks for acknowledging that! I'm genuinely impressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menThat's not really a valid way to evaluate pickiness I'm not evaluating pickiness. Perhaps you should read the thread from the beginning and stop wasting my time. because everyone has a universal floor beneath which the vast majority of people would never stoop to Read the thread. If you have a universal floor for women, how do you go about determining whether that floor is perfectly reasonable, or unreasonably picky? Not my concern. Read the thread. From the beginning. How can you know the value… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 08:02 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.The two things are linked as you said so if you can control how you view one you can control how you view the other. Except the immediate consequences of the one are obvious. Caring a lot about sex being detrimental in the long run isn't that obvious. It's not even obvious that it's necessarily detrimental to the individual. That is one of the driving factors in men to be productive and that's why we have civilization in the first place. So snarky for no reason. You are quick to believe people d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 07:54 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.It’s still the end goal of their biological impulses though. If you can control and regulate how you view one aspect of it then it shows the ability is there but there’s just no motivation. What exactly do you mean by that? If this is the case though then I don’t see how things will ever change. They won't. At least not through men. You can't even expect women to change them even though it would be a lot easier for them to do so. The fact that they aren't should tell you that, regardless of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menIn this case it is relevant because when we're talking about women's pickiness, what exactly are we supposed to contrast it to? Nothing. It's not a comparison with men's pickiness. We're establishing whether there is a universal floor beneath women would never sink in choosing from men who are able to reproduce. That's all. We don't need to know the value of B in order to know if A has a minimum value. Interesting you say that, because men tend not to try and drag down other men to bring themsel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 07:16 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.Despite biological drives many men are able to divorce sex from reproduction and still be content with never reproducing. We are able to divorce food from survival yet enjoy the former a great deal. I understand that the drive for sex is connected to the drive to reproduce. People are able to control their thinking when it comes to having kids despite their biological urges, why not do the same with sex? Because men have never been the bottleneck to reproduction. Women can only have a very small… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menI ask you again: Do you think women made no selection themselves? Bias is usually always relevant. Seriously: "usually always" ? And no, it's not relevant in this instance and you don't refute that with some vague assertion about bias. You refute it by challenging the reason I gave for why it's relevant. To be fair though, if there is a number of men who improve themselves from red pill advice and get into the top X%, they're probably displacing men who were in the top X% and who aren't improvin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 06:35 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.That argument would make sense if there was some great benefit. Successful reproduction is a great benefit. We're the offspring of only those who achieved it. No matter how many millions of generations you go back. To think that wouldn't be a fundamental part of our behavior now is an absurd proposition. Although sex is tied to reproduction that’s not what it’s about for most men. You're not connecting the dots. The sex drive is that strong precisely because that's what's necessary. Many men wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menA physical state where marriages were arranged Do you think women made no selection themselves? That's unlikely given that most species are not females being raped but the females selecting the males. You also seem to think that while it's perfectly likely that men were stinky and gross, that women were so much better. That's irrelevant. We're not talking about men's pickiness but women's. Or are you saying that if men work harder to get into the top X%, then the women will be more picky since m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menI didn't. Try to read properly in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menThe point is that women's mate selection doesn't have some absolute floor (barring literal inability to reproduce of course). It's relative to the available men that exist. You are right that RP shit doesn’t work I didn't say it doesn't work. You seem a little confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 08:19 PM |
| 11 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menYou are aware that women in the past had nothing but men in the past to reproduce with right? What physical state do you think a man was in during the dark ages or before? You think he had good teeth or hygiene? It's all relative. Women pick the top X% of men regardless of who good those men are in an absolute sense. That's why red pill advice will do zero for men on the whole. It only works for individual men to help them get into the top X%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 06:56 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.Fixing the prisoners dilemma isn’t that extreme. It’s about changing your perspective. You're still just projecting female privilege onto men. Tell me: why do think men haven't fixed this long ago? Are they just stupid? Women managed to liberate themselves from gender roles to an unprecedented extent. Men, while ostensibly having more say in the matter, cannot manage it. Why do you think that is? I do think, and I don’t understand why sex is more important than human rights to some men. That's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 03:34 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.What are women really supposed to do about it? I don't think we can hope to fix this any time soon if at all. But I do think it's not asking to much for women to at least acknowledge their active role in the situation and take responsibility for their choices. Because, as it stands now, we have many women complain about unequal representation at the top while they choose to do gender studies and consume 50 shades of grey material and blame the inevitable outcome on men. That can and should stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 03:14 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.Men will come if they feel there’s something in it for them. Not if it costs more than it yields. If all women had to do was ask men would just accept everything and do whatever they ask as soon as it’s asked of them. Yup. That's pretty much it so long as it can be provided of course. Equal representation is impossible in a free society when women just won't make an equal amount of sacrifice. After looking into the prisoners dilemma it seems before anything can happen men will have to work on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 11:24 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.What resources? To name just one example: women can ask men to save them. Men will happily come to their rescue. Feminism tapped into that. Ironic since it's literally using female privilege to supposedly fight sexism. When women started feminism they could literally vilify men with the same kind of rhetoric that ethnic cleansers used. Meanwhile MRAs get called misogynists for merely gender swapping feminist posters. If enough men stand as a unified front, change will happen. That can't happen b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 10:45 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.If you go looking for something online you’ll most likely be able to find it. Only if somebody put it there. I’m simply expanding and saying men can change this if they wish if they stayed on code like feminists. And there's your mistake. You're assuming men have the same resources at their disposal that women have. They don't. I do lead by example however I also know I’m not as effective for men’s right because I’m not a man. On the contrary. Women are far more effective MRAs than men. You can'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 09:54 PM |
| 2 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.If you look up Meanwhile you'll complain that big tech is showing biased results. Where were other MRAs to defend him Just because Zuck didn't show you something, doesn't mean it isn't there. The point is, when men do try, they lose. It never benefits a man to speak out for men on the whole. Quite the opposite to speaking out for women. Women could speak out for men but, well, they usually don't. Also as to the "where were the...": where were you? Lead by example. Then get back to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 09:22 PM |
| 8 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.Its true men get attacked for it, but being nearly 50% of the population, youd think that men would ban together against the feminists. No you wouldn't. It's a classic case of a prisoner's dilemma. and was surprised to see no man actually addressing emotional repression. For the same reason as above. It only comes at a cost to men to show weakness. It was the women who included it into the discussion 1) Women are in a completely different situation. For them, showing weakness is rewarded (that's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 08:52 PM |
| 1 | The media staying silent about Amber Heard is a brutal display of how little society cares about men.I haven’t seen MRAs do much advocacy for male domestic violence victims and survivors or male sexual assault victims or survivors. Look up Earl Silverman and then go and fuck yourself! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/20 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Instagram Model Admits Grooming Child When Confronted By TV Reporter | Police didn't take it seriously, because it was a woman sending nudes to a boy.Not the person you're talking to but I can offer you a partial reason: children are naive about things concerning sex. Depending on their maturity, they may exhibit what, to an adult, looks like interest but really has nothing to do with sexual attraction. It's easy for an adult to manipulate a child into doing something they don't want to do and will later regret. Especially if it comes to things like unprotected sex. Now that is only a partial reason since this won't apply to every child equal… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/20 08:37 AM |
| 2 | [Q4MEN] If the juice isn't worth the squeeze , why are you obsessing over lemons?It's quite possible to not care much about pussy and still be upset about the injustices we have to deal with as a result of society caring way too much about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Most men are simply too shy, but women wouldn't be any more confident if they were in their placeYeah the "what if women were men" question works both ways. People rarely understand what it's like on the other side of the fence. Women can't just decide to treat men better (whatever that means) because that will be misread as leading them on (because they're not used to a woman being that "nice" to them so it must be that she's interested). So women are conditioned to show the cold shoulder. It sucks for everyone in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 09:32 PM |
| 2 | How would you argue against "females are "superior" to males because all embryos start as females, the female sex came before the male sex in evolution, and males evolved later from females" that misandrists bring up?That's some serious misogyny you've got going in in that comment ;) | /r/MensRights | 08/01/20 09:15 PM |
| 4 | "These aren't real feminists. They're not representative of the majority of feminists. They don't count." How does one address this argument?I can concede that there will be areas in society where men fall behind compared to women, but I think it's still heavily stacked against women.... So the discussion now has to be on whether men or women have it worse in our system. The statistics pertaining to living standard paint a very clear picture on this and it's the opposite of what you believe. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Why are men more successful? Because failure for a man is a whole lot worse than failure for a woman.The distribution of success across the population pertaining to gender is exactly what you would expect it to be when one gender is given a harder time: more winners among the gender that has it harder and many more losers. The male losers far outnumber the male winners. And coddling doesn't breed winners - it breeds mediocrity. Want women to be more represented higher up? Then be prepared to do the one thing society will never do: treat them more like men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/01/20 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Is there statistical evidence that family courts are biased against fathers?It's a classic selection bias. You could also say slaves won their freedom 50% of the times they took their masters to court - therefore slaves aren't really slaves since it's voluntary. The refutation: Those fathers challenging custody in court aren't a representative sample of all fathers who want custody. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/01/20 08:02 PM |
| 1 | What are the reasons behind gender disparity in violence and empathy?A woman who receives a welfare check for $1200 may have to pay $60 income tax on it, but that doesn't mean the government is $60 richer. It just means the government is only $1140, and not $1200, poorer. I think this is the part I was missing. Just because women also pay taxes, doesn't mean they're net contributors. When saying "solely funded by" men, I suspected an inconsistency but it isn't one after all. And because these phenomena (prosperity, security and stability, and women abandoning the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/19 07:57 PM |
| 1 | What are the reasons behind gender disparity in violence and empathy?That state is disproportionately (some would argue solely) funded by men Do you by any chance know what their reasoning is for arguing that it's solely funded by men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/19 08:21 PM |
| 11 | Literally insulting the severely mentally illIt doesn't matter in this context. They're just reaching for excuses to downplay the problem as they do every time when stats reveal that men are doing worse than women. Which is pretty damn often btw. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/19 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Toxic qualifies the word Masculinity. Then it's derived from the definition of masculinity. He isn't, bit it's where the concept of Toxic Masculinity comes from. Is it or is it not a subset of masculinity? Because he believes gender is a construct. One that's influenced by society. Nobody disputes that it's influenced by society. The problem is it's not only influenced by society. Because he's talking about Masculinity and things men do as part of masculine gender roles. ... Toxic Masculinity is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/12/19 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Because where the term originates doesn't do so. Wait, is it or is it not a qualifier? If it is, then the term originates with "masculinity" which is a lot older than 25 years. If it's not, well then don't call it one. Shepard Bliss of the Mythopoetic Men's Movement in 1995 What qualifies this to be the authority on masculinity? Masculinities are made, not born. Only if you deliberately exclude those that are. But why would you do that? I'll just pull from the Wikipedia. Is there any indication … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).By power I'm referring to the take down of several elite public figures. I'm not refferring to the abstract of exerting power over anyone else which could happen anywhere. Ok. Why? Is only visible power real? It's not something that can be 100% certain, but the inverse would imply that for all these high-profile men that have been ousted by their accusers there's even more women who are doing the same. I just haven't seen a case for that. Why would you expect to - in world where female on male a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).I hope that will go through. Wikipedia has some seriously biased people supervising the discussion when it comes to such topics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Not to the degree and frequency relative to their position in power. How do you know this? How in the hell would you even quantify that? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).I understand that. I'm asking you why you describe it as a subset of masculinity if it's not inherent to men since masculinity is the set of traits typically associated with men. I mean if women select tall men over short men, that's not a form of masculinity, it's a form of femininity. Yet it's easy to see the connection between that and the many instances of "toxic masculinity" referred to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Toxic Masculinity isn't inherrant in men. Then why call it "masculinity"? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).According to Lisak study, a MINIMUM of 2-11% of rape accusations made to police are false. A MINIMUM. The maximum is 95-98% because 3-5% of rape accusations are proven true. So somewhere between 2-11% and 95-98% is where the true average rate of false rape accusations lie. I wish this point was driven home more often. That's all the solid information we have. The only other indicator is anecdotes from law enforcement and those tend to guesstimate around 40%-50%. Nobody can walk away from this an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Do you think false accusations are rare compared to actual sexual assault and if so then why? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 08:03 PM |
| 5 | When feminists say they want men to express their vulnerabilities, are they being honest?In my experience: I cried when a girl read me some poetry she wrote and she told me it was hot. Ok but that's clearly one of the instances that fall under the category of "allowed to cry" for men. Problem is there aren't many of those (funerals may be another) and men don't get to choose others for themselves. I suspect it was only hot for her because it fell nicely into her categorization. I also suspect she'd have run a mile if you'd have anything even remotely approaching such a categorizatio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 07:50 PM |
| 1 | I'm glad I found this sub, but...Of course. But those conditions only apply to posting and top-level responses. The open discussion starts from 2nd level which is where it starts to get interesting. Typically I find a post on the topic and then read the top-level responses and there are always plenty of feminists among them. As are dissenters. The really fun part is how they don't just get to shut you down with mud slinging or biased moderation. As long as you remain civil and stick to the rules, you're free to respond. Not man… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 09:58 PM |
| 1 | I'm glad I found this sub, but...Your assertions about my reading comprehension notwithstanding, I'd still like to know what, if anything, I said that you disagree with. Do you have an answer or not? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 09:10 PM |
| 1 | I'm glad I found this sub, but...Did I say anything that you disagree with? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 09:00 PM |
| 2 | I'm glad I found this sub, but...I found r/changemyview also to be a place where both can and do talk. It is pretty strictly moderated but only by the type of discourse, not by political slant. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 08:15 PM |
| 1 | I'm glad I found this sub, but...Here's the reality: "feminism" is not particularly concerned with "free speech" It should be. The right to express unpopular ideas is at the very foundation of progress. Surely you wouldn't want to just shrug at it indifferently the moment your ideas stopped being unpopular, would you? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 07:59 PM |
| 3 | I'm glad I found this sub, but...I think feminism made a huge mistake when it moved to limit free speech. It wasn't a mistake. It's a strategic move and really the only course of action for feminists. When you are a political activist with a significant amount of power but your worldview is fundamentally at odds with reality you are going to lose most attempts to challenge your ideas. So you must use your power to avoid such challenges, ideally so it doesn't look like you're avoiding them. The solution: scapegoat any challenger… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 07:37 PM |
| 0 | A question for women who have strict standards about heightYou asked why they would be lying, not if. I offered a possible explanation. I make no claim about how many are indeed lying. Force of habit from real life? Note: this too is just a response to your question and no claim about the extent to which this occurs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/19 08:45 PM |
| 4 | A question for women who have strict standards about heightWhy do you think they should be lying? To make themselves look or feel more virtuous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/19 08:31 PM |
| 1 | BREAKING NEWS! There is to be a White House Council on Boys and Men!If men didn't enforce attitudes of "shut up and take it because you're a man" on themselves This is so infantile. Why would men do it to "themselves"? Consider that people are driven by incentives. Please. Feminism has succeeded because women complain and try and change the things that hurt them No. If that were true, then any activist organization would just succeed. Feminism only exists in the first place because of gynocentrism. It doesn't fight sexism, it requires sexism to get anywhere. Pro… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/19 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Colttaine: The Matrix Behind The MatrixThat is possible but if true, then it makes the disparity between men and women/children all the greater because the same reasoning applies. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/19 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?aha. Do tell me more... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/19 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Men think women see men as alpha or beta, because they are the ones who label women as madonnas or whores.Social skills is one of the variables in attractiveness. In your personal anecdote it would seem that you deem most men (perhaps 80% ?) as inadequate in that variable. It's easier to call oneself ugly than work on social skills. I couldn't disagree more. Try it yourself. Look into a mirror and say you're ugly vs "I should work on my social skills". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/19 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Men think women see men as alpha or beta, because they are the ones who label women as madonnas or whores.Percentage is a relative measure, not an absolute. Meaning if women reject the bottom 80% then that is not a claim about the absolute attractiveness of men but merely that women refuse all but one man out of every five. Telling men to try harder doesn't change that. It just drives up the competition for all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/19 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Lol. Apparently you don't understand basic logic sufficiently to realize that even if you were to refute this example, that would not constitute proof of you being right. But do tell me why this isn't what I said it is let alone how it proves you right? It's going to be very entertaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/19 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Dude you can't even present any thing to prove this. Wrong again: The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her. A quote from the opening paragraphs of the Declaration of Sentiments from the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848 - considered the official beginning of the modern American feminist movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/19 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Your infantile attempt at a retort notwithstanding, it's a matter of fact that 1st wave feminists bashed men. No amount of denial will make the evidence go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/19 08:43 PM |
| 4 | Any gay or bisexual men lurk here? What's your take on the Red Pill?I come from the opposite angle and see women as ruthless, exceptionally rational (in the economic sense) maximizers of their imperative. That's been my observation too. It makes sense given the evolutionary role of the mother which makes it a matter of survival for both her and the infant that she makes careful consideration of materialistic aspects. By contrast, (straight) men more often seem to be blinded by romantic feelings or concepts of some divine femininity. I've known so many men who go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/19 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?You should inform yourself better on the matter. Especially if you're going to make bold claims like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/19 05:59 PM |
| 0 | What are your thoughts on the Trollxchromosomes and Men’s lib subreddits?Do you understand what that phrase is referring to or are you just in a state of mindless outrage over its vulgarity? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/19 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Answer for what? Never mind. And 1st wave feminism didn't bash masculinity. It certainly bashed men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Actually its been doing that since before 2nd wave but that's till very recent. Civilization has mostly existed without feminism. You don't seem to have an answer to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Great words shared by Janice Flamengo about menYou couldn't have possibly missed the point any more. It's about being consistent. So I'll ask you directly: Should individual men be held responsible for the deeds of all men - good and bad? Yes or no? | /r/MensRights | 05/11/19 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?You have cause and effect mixed up. If masculinity wasn't already been seen as free game to bash, feminism wouldn't have managed to sell it to us. Otherwise they'd have started thousands of years earlier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?On the contrary, feminism uses those standards to bully men. Hence the "real men cry" memes and things like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:48 PM |
| 5 | Great words shared by Janice Flamengo about menBecause you’re all trying to coopt respect for things you haven’t done. That would be fair criticism if it weren't for the fact that men are collectively blamed for the wrongdoings of other men. So why should they not collectively take responsibility for the good that other men do? I personally don't mind either way. Just be consistent - either every individual man bares the responsibility for the deeds of all men (good and bad) or he doesn't. You choose. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?I am blaming feminism as they are the ones that want to change masculinity to their liking. Feminism is the pits for sure but this is one thing that wasn't caused by feminism. The devaluation of masculinity came as a result of modern safety and comfort. Until not so long ago, the benefits of masculinity were so blatantly obvious to everyone that questioning the need for men would have been absurd. But today, we live so safely and no thought needs to be given to how it's all kept running. The ben… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?First, let's explain toxic masculinity. Essentially, it is believed by many feminists that eradicating these harmful expectations of masculinity (Remaining stoic, repressing feelings, etc.) can... Except it's mostly women's mate selection strategy that enforces this. But by describing it a trait of men, that neatly keeps all responsibility on men and lets feminists continue to blame men for everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Talk about missing the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever consider a child-free or marriage free lifestyle or BOTH? (Would be interested in hearing how guys and girls differ)I'm not saying people should just throw caution to the wind and marry the first person who comes along because YOLO. So we agree then that there's a lot more to it than just "no risk, no fun". Ok, then they shouldn't get married. The real cracker is: how do you know when you're in that situation and not just deluding yourself with romantic passion? Most men are unable to tell. I'm saying "It might not work so why even try" is a bad way to go about your life So we agree then that there's a lot mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/19 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Would you ever consider a child-free or marriage free lifestyle or BOTH? (Would be interested in hearing how guys and girls differ)No place is "male friendly". At the most there are just different degrees of male unfriendly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/19 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever consider a child-free or marriage free lifestyle or BOTH? (Would be interested in hearing how guys and girls differ)Yes this is not said enough. Kids or not, in death we are all alone (or all together? either way..). And the vast majority of deaths are nothing like the ending of Interstellar (an otherwise good movie). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/19 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever consider a child-free or marriage free lifestyle or BOTH? (Would be interested in hearing how guys and girls differ)but everything comes with risk. Maybe your business will go under. Maybe ... So then it comes down to risk assessment, no? It's fine to take a calculated risk. Sure, just because a business might fail isn't a reason to not start it. But what if that business is based on selling square wheels? Bottom line is, make an informed decision, not one in the heat of the moment based on passion. If you're in the situation where marriage and children seems to be worth the risk, great. Most men aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/19 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever consider a child-free or marriage free lifestyle or BOTH? (Would be interested in hearing how guys and girls differ)Judging by the amount of condoms and birth control pills sold worldwide, the imperative to reproduce seems to be... rather weak. Not necessarily. The reproductive strategy of humans is to invest a lot of resources into just one or very few offspring (as opposed to dumping huge amounts of them into the wilderness and relying on the sheer number to increase the odds). Because of that, many people approach reproduction with the mindset of "waiting for the ideal time". So, using contraceptives is en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/19 08:19 PM |
| 1 | vee: The tears of Peterson show why toxic masculinity existsThe irony that escapes them is that their usage of the term is itself an example of toxic masculinity by their own definition. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/19 08:35 AM |
| 3 | Male MPs Receive the Most Online Abusebut females experience, feel, harassment more often. or, more likely, they say they feel it more often. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/19 02:03 PM |
| 4 | Male MPs Receive the Most Online Abusejust because they're prisoners doesn't mean they're not human. and many wouldn't even be prisoners if they were women. And that's not even counting those who were wrongly convicted. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/19 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Men need to stop seeking validation through sex.People do this very less to men than they do to women. I think you're making the mistake of only noticing the expectations on women, then realizing men don't have those, and conclude that men don't have any. You have failed to consider all the expectations placed on men but not on women. Easy example: height. Why do you think make up is mostly advertised to women? I think you'd prefer to have an expectation placed on you that you can fulfill rather than one you can't such as height. Don't you th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/19 07:47 PM |
| 1 | This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.When it was first a thing, females didn't have the rights and it was a good cause to get woman on the same level as men It never did that though. Both men and women had benefits and costs due to sexism. Feminism only tried to take away all costs from women and all benefits from men. It practically declared war on men. Even in the 19th century the rhetoric used was much the same as the way ethnic cleansers talk. In more modern times we need to have a more equalist movement to ensure no sides get … | /r/MensRights | 28/09/19 03:00 PM |
| 1 | This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.That's not a prescriptive dictionary. It's flawed for the same reason why "academic" feminism exists unscrutinized. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/19 08:26 PM |
| 2 | This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.Imo feminism has lost itself due to the shitty people that have come from it Feminism was always sexist and anti-male. A fleeting glance at past incarnations will show they were more, not less explicit about that. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/19 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Gender Switching is just another form of woman coming from Adam's RibIt's a weird obsession with fairness that I don't understand. ^ The ultimate example of privilege blindness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 07:33 PM |
| 1 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.There's no point in giving you arguments you can't or won't understand. Take this last grand claim for example (which is just a repeat of a previous claim btw.): It's not society's problem when men waste their money on naked women. And I already told you I don't disagree with that but you're too angry to accept agreement from what you believe to be one of those bad men so you just repeat it at me - trying to maintain some kind of fantasy of the smart girl fighting against the evil patriarchy. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 04:18 PM |
| 1 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.You're taking all this far too personally. I'm not the personification of your anger at men. So let's continue this when you've calmed down and gotten some distance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/19 02:52 PM |
| 1 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.Really? Really what? Because when I bring up that men make up the majority of rapists and murderers, the typical RP response is that women are to blame for what their grown son do, thus, trying to divert blame to women for the actions of men. I don't what you're responding to or why you're telling me that. Also, you just did it. You just blamed women for the actions of men. I did not. You're not reading properly. I said the instagram thots etc. are exploiting men. That's not blame. Its not socie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/19 06:51 AM |
| 1 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.Move on with your life. Since when did this become about me? We were talking about TRP. You guys "You" huh? How about you make up your mind where you're aiming your rant? act like women do things that men never do. Men can be scumbags. Men can be manipulators. Of course. The difference is that society penalizes men for that. When women do those things, usually men are blamed for it. That puts both men and women in a difficult spot to have a meaningful relationship of any kind. Only idiots would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/19 06:58 PM |
| 2 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.If these men don’t want relationships, why do they keep complaining about women in relationships and how women only marry men for resources? Think about it. If you believed the opposite sex was only going to use you for material benefit, then you're obviously not going to buy what, in your eyes, is a scam. I presume most of them would want relationships if they believed that's what women were offering. They don't so they won't and make do with what women do reciprocate sometimes: sex. And they d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/19 06:26 PM |
| 1 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.What man chooses to listen to a man who cant have a stable relationship to save his live? They're probably not looking for a stable relationship. Also, yet again you're making assumptions based on your personal upset with TRP. And somehow that's more valuable than listening to a woman who's in a stable relationship? False assumptions lead to false conclusions. Who'd have thought? You could figure that out without treating women like they're animals. Nobody is doing that or even suggesting it so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/19 04:31 PM |
| 1 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.A man who has issues with women should not get the advice from men who have even bigger issues with women. There's another assumption. And another missing premise: namely that having issues with women means they don't know anything useful about them. A big red flag is when he starts comparing women to animals, as if women are a foreign species that men cannot comprehend, despite 50% of the population being female. Animal behavior in multiple species can actually be very informative on human beha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/19 09:13 AM |
| 2 | There’s a simpler way to teach boys about women. First of all, tell them that women are people.I'm quite convinced that guys in TRP get all their information about women from Mainstream media and porn. No, they get it from each other. Instead of, you know, actually talking to women. The claim that talking to women would be a useful way to learn about women contains the following premises: 1) That women are honest about themselves and their desires and 2) that they know and understand their desires and 3) that what one woman says is true for women in general. Talking to other men who have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/19 08:26 PM |
| 2 | What do you guys think about the r/menslib sub?I took a look at your comment and it was a very good and reasoned critique. My biggest problem with that post and many of the mainstream publications on the topic is how they reason on the premise that only rape accusations that were proven to be false are indeed false. When it comes to actual rape, those same people would never accept only proven cases as the actual number of incidents. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 06:55 PM |
| 4 | What do you guys think about the r/menslib sub?There's a discussion on that with screenshot here | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 06:38 PM |
| 3 | Unmarried Women Face Shortage of Potential Suitors?The top 20% will always be the top 20% - no matter how much harder everybody tries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/19 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Woman cuts off her ex-husband's penis and testicles and flushes them down the toilet before telling him 'If I can't have it, no one else can'I hope the 4k refers to the resolution. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/19 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Woman cuts off her ex-husband's penis and testicles and flushes them down the toilet before telling him 'If I can't have it, no one else can'Oh she won't let you think she's that. She'll plan it over a long period in which she'll gain your trust and make you feel like she's one of the good girls. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/19 08:06 AM |
| 4 | Woman cuts off her ex-husband's penis and testicles and flushes them down the toilet before telling him 'If I can't have it, no one else can'Yeah tough guy. You're totally the man and that could never happen to you. Maybe you're always on your guard, sleep with one eye open and never turn your back on anyone or accept food you haven't prepared yourself but most people don't live like that. Nor would they want to. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/19 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Transhumanism will probably make gender irrelevantI think the biggest obstacle to that is the same it's been all along: women are quite happy with gender roles and giving people more freedom will just lead to them expecting more of what they want. If we were going to go in this direction, we'd already have made a serious push long ago. Also, transhumanism is (while interesting) the mother of all speculative thought experiments. There's no way to know what kind of paradigm shifts we'll be seeing let alone how they'll change society. What we do k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 07:40 PM |
| 1 | People who have "rape fantasies" or other messed-up fetishes should admit they have a serious problem and stop using the excuse of "It's just a fantasy"Oh ffs why don't you just calm down and back up the purity squad for one second. It's bad enough people are trying to sanitize public discourse and reduce it to a vapid corporate facade of pretentious virtue signalling. But at least leave people the freedom of their own goddamn thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 07:17 PM |
| 4 | Q4Men: why do men get angry about women who get free drinks when the free alcohol is intended to make us drunk and therefore less likely to say “no” to sex? Alcohol affects consent.Then get a soft drink then ffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/19 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: why do men get angry about women who get free drinks when the free alcohol is intended to make us drunk and therefore less likely to say “no” to sex? Alcohol affects consent.How is this a privilege??? It's amazing how people can literally turn any advantage women have into a disadvantage. Your post is one of the more impressive examples. You seem to think being offered free things means women are helpless to refuse and will just be consumed as a result. How about treating women like adults who can take responsibility for their choices and actions and that means not getting drunk when they don't want to? That's how you'd treat men so why not afford women the same age… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/19 07:38 PM |
| 2 | is TRP still about "enjoy the decline" and getting laid with women?You seem to be having a conversation with yourself. I'll leave you to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/19 04:37 PM |
| 5 | is TRP still about "enjoy the decline" and getting laid with women?That ball isn't in my court. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/19 08:29 PM |
| 4 | is TRP still about "enjoy the decline" and getting laid with women?Do you really mean to tell me that you can't see the fallacy in the claim that, because millions of men are playing a game, that it therefore cannot be rigged? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/19 07:49 PM |
| 8 | This is why men have a hard time sharing feelings. Woman destroys her partner after finding out he was raped when he was a childThat comment is the epitome of failure. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/19 07:45 PM |
| 10 | is TRP still about "enjoy the decline" and getting laid with women?The mother of all fallacies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/19 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Apparently women's gold digging behavior is all because of men. Men, men, men.Reality: As a woman's earning potential increases, she becomes MORE hypergamous, not less. There's an inverse like that in men too: The more powerful men are, the less violent or "toxic" they tend to be. That means that it isn't a feature of masculinity at all but a consequence of neglect or abuse by feminist standards... if they exist that is. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/19 07:05 PM |
| 5 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.I'm not sure exactly what argument you're trying to make here That their understanding of the term is contradictory at best. The claim that they understand it while we don't, is evidently false from the parody I made above. MensLib would, by my understanding, agree that toxic masculinity exists now alongside positive masculinity as things that are positive or negative Only there's no consensus on what constitutes positive masculinity. Unlike toxic masculinity. TM is basically an improper subset … | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 10:49 AM |
| 7 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.Your claim was that this sub has a Nazi problem. In order to demonstrate that you need to actually find the problem and show it to us. And before doing that, you should define what constitutes a problem. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 10:24 AM |
| 1 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.Actually the scientific method involves exposing your work to criticism. If they go first and or only to where they're likely to get praise, that's a strong indicator of bias. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 09:01 AM |
| 7 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.To conflate "men" with "toxic masculinity" is something that occurs here, on this sub, with a far higher frequency than over at the other sub. I've seen many discussions on menslib about it and they are hilarious because you can roughly sum them all up with the following stages of discourse: 1) Toxic masculinity is just a subset of masculinity that's toxic. Anyone who doesn't get that is stupid. [comment removed] .... [comment removed] ..... ..... [deleted removed] 2) Ok but what might be positi… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 08:30 AM |
| 1 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.The whole point of the paper is to describe how an ideology can affect a community. The way to do that would be to observe how changes in moderation affect the same community. That's how you would go about observing such a correlation. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 08:23 AM |
| 7 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.To the one person talking about mod policies - I would not think they would make a substantive difference. This is absurd. Are you even aware that pretty much anyone on ML can freely comment here and some do? That is absolutely not the case in reverse. Further, we allow dissent from the other side too - the PUA's, incels etc. and many of them come here and argue with us. And finally, the mere existence of a strict moderation policy will affect the language used significantly. So if you're going … | /r/MensRights | 19/06/19 08:10 PM |
| 18 | A computational linguist just did his thesis on r/Mensrights, specifically on how we can use machine learning to analyze how ideological differences manifest in patterns of language use at scale.With respect, I think this is bullshit. It's actually even more right than both of you realize. Not only the direct moderation but also the fact that many of the people here are not even in agreement with us. We allow vitriolic dissent as a matter of course. ML do not. So comparing the subreddits using word frequency analyses is comparing apples with oranges and combining that with the authors slant, means we're dealing with activism, not science. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Since when is flirting being a clown? Do men not enjoy flirting again?And they ALL just want sex. Well what else are you offering? Money? Protection? Status? A big house? What else can a man get from you? Would you date a man who offers what you do and be willing to provide what you expect? Women get tons of shit and rarely a decent person worth meeting. When men say anything remotely approaching this, they're told to lower their standards. Its not some song and dance where women do nothing. It is. You just have no clue about all the things you're not doing while … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 07:48 PM |
| 2 | You will often hear from feminists that men don't deserve support and stronger legal protection because women are relatively abused more, and the whole "Believe all women on rape charges". "It's the game who has it worse and that game sucks," golden words spoken by this lady. Hugs to her.Women have it worse is a red herring argument not utilized to prove anything, but to distract from the conversation and marginalize the importance of it. It's not even true. You need only to look at the most important metrics pertaining to living standard. They all favor women significantly. The only reason people argue otherwise is because they don't know that and just assume women have it worse because women's issues is all that gets discussed. So I wouldn't try to avoid that argument because … | /r/MensRights | 07/06/19 09:22 PM |
| 1 | If masculinity is under attack or on the decline, how do you propose to bring it back?That's not how the world works. Feminism is a symptom of the problem, not the cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/19 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Why I think men have a higher risk of suicideIt's a lot more complex than that. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/19 07:33 PM |
| 8 | Saw this woman complaining about how men don’t fight for women’s rights, she then goes on to make a bold statement...Well of course. The part where you imply that you might be talking to dead people was the only thing that makes it possible to tell your comment from NPC copy pasta. That's why it sparked my curiosity. So, are you going to answer the question now? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/19 03:20 PM |
| 11 | Saw this woman complaining about how men don’t fight for women’s rights, she then goes on to make a bold statement...None of you guys have obviously fought and died for this country. Do you often speak to people who have died? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/19 02:55 PM |
| 4 | Toxic masculinity and what it actually means at its coreEven if that's true, it's still an appeal to authority at best and a disgrace for whatever institution of which you have the misfortune of being a student. I suggest you change majors and learn some basic techniques of genuine unbiased inquiry before even saying another word - if only for the sake of saving your future self the embarrassment when remembering this fiasco of a wannabe intellectual bile discharge. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/19 08:51 PM |
| 6 | Toxic masculinity and what it actually means at its coreYou are incredibly uninformed on this subject. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/19 08:32 PM |
| 10 | This sub is going down the drainNice bait and switch. Like nobody would notice that you just replaced feminism with "supporting women" right at the end. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Incels deserve help and shouldn't be demonizedI heard they like to put kittens in the microwave. Only female kittens of course. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/19 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Increasing number of female parents taking magic mushrooms while looking after kids-and the media doesnt have a problem with it. Another example of 'mother can do no wrong', whilst dads get no rights.This is not relevant to men's rigths and your title is misleading. If you want to make the case anyway, I suggest you do it in a text post. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/19 05:33 PM |
| 5 | You cannot be pro-male and pro-female. The sexual and relationship market places are a zero sum game. To want better for one sex, is to want things to be worse for the other.It's always hard to have empathy for problems that one isn't confronted with oneself. It's the same with false rape accusations. Women are pretty safe from those. If they did to women what they do to men, things would be very different. But it's not all one-sided. Cat calling and similar things, are hard for most men to empathize with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Sargon of Akkad vs Sky news reporterYeah I'm not a fan of that kind of editing either. But I think this clip is still important because of his unapologetic standing his ground on treating women equally. Even the use of the word "bitch" might seem like a slip but I think it's a deliberate bait to expose the sexism. Whether it'll work out for him or not is another question but it's nice to see somebody bring up the courage to try it publicly. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/19 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Sargon of Akkad vs Sky news reporterI just used the title of the video. Not sure if it qualifies as clickbait or did you have images of a sumo match? | /r/MensRights | 19/04/19 06:06 AM |
| 3 | Rick Moranis, a man who put his acting career aside to raise his children after the passing of his wife. What a guy.women don't have more rights. This is easy to settle. Name a right that men have that women don't. I can easily name one that women have that men don't: conscription, right to give baby up for adoption, right to not have genitals cut ... . i do assume that many men won't advocate for women because historically and anecdotally, they have and are still oppressing them here Then why are women living a higher living standard than men? That is inconsistent with the view that men oppress women. men do… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/19 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Rick Moranis, a man who put his acting career aside to raise his children after the passing of his wife. What a guy.Rights were invented by men for men Then women would not have more rights than men. They do. men's rights are something that are somehow not locked in stone and carefully guarded by the nearly-all-male leadership we still live under? You assume that men because they're men wouldn't advocate for women. It's a sexist fallacy. In fact men consistently advocate for women. You're proof of that. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/19 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Rick Moranis, a man who put his acting career aside to raise his children after the passing of his wife. What a guy.Why would men having rights be a joke? | /r/MensRights | 16/04/19 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooNow you have devolved into an angry position I'm not angry at all. I've stated my position, Correct. given avenues to reach the desired results with actual processes. Not correct. You, on the other hand, have merely swung your hammer of rejection No. I gave reason for that rejection. Your response was that I must not want the same goals which is where you went off the deep end. refusing to try I'm more than happy to try if you can give me a reason. Merely having good intentions is not sufficient… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/19 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooYeah, it's going to take a lot of work. It doesn't sound like you're interested in all that. I would be if there was reason to believe that it can be done at all. Spending masses of time and resources on chasing a utopian dream is unwise. Demonstrate viability or at least give us some reason to believe it's possible and won't backfire. You haven't even attempted to make a case for that. You just keep saying how nice it would be if you achieved this goal. That's not how you demonstrate viability.… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/19 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooWill acheive the desired results. That's a nice wish but that's all it is. I'm taken aback that you cannot find a use for less physically abled people. I never said anything that would justify this rewording/interpretation of my words. Here you follow up with the notion that some people are completely useless. That tells me you are not experienced at managing people. The fact that you believe everyone can contribute a net positive of resources tells me that you don't seem to know quite how bad l… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooNot unless you teach girls to be more self sufficient and less vulnerable. You can teach them all you like but as long as the incentive isn't there, it will make very little difference. Women can provide if they want. But they don't have to. It's not surprising that they choose not to. Less strength does not mean less able. What else could it possibly mean? You don't put a frail old woman into a physically demanding role. But she still has purpose and can work toward the goal with as much meanin… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/19 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooWhere do you think that "indoctrination" comes from? It's been around far longer than feminism. And across all cultures. There's a reason for that. Because men do indeed have to cater to women a lot more than vice versa. It's down to mating strategy which, like with most species, is dictated by females. And to raise boys with a utopian idea of equality in the world is going to make their lives much harder than they already will be as they grow up. You can't protect them from biology. Women will … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/19 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooAs a species we prioritize women's well being and survival above men's (and to some extent even children's). As a consequence we're a lot more sensitive to any suffering that happens to women (imagine a man with a black eye and then likewise imagine a woman and observe your reaction) and quicker to listen to any complaint. Feminism and its large influence is a symptom of that. Meanwhile, we depend upon men to be strong and suck it up because, even today, without that we could not 1) do so much t… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/19 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Toxic feminism hurts women tooSo why isn’t men rights a hate cult They're not equal and opposite. Feminism is the lobby in power. It has pro-female bias as the wind in its sails. MRAs are contrarian to the most primitive human instincts. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/19 07:59 PM |
| 7 | Joe Biden Pushed Policies That Deprived Men of Due Process in Campus Sexual Misconduct DisputesI think a big portion of all outrage/hysteria is instigated and propagated by people projecting. Rape obsession among feminists is a good example. When you're truly repulsed by something, you generally don't want anything to do with it and don't want to even think about it. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/19 08:27 PM |
| 11 | Joe Biden Pushed Policies That Deprived Men of Due Process in Campus Sexual Misconduct Disputes^ the feminist response to injustice done to men. Thanks for providing such a good example. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/19 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Just got this beautiful notification today! It took a year, but this man-hating feminazi is finally gone.The patriarchy mostly affects men positively Yet men are overall worse off than women. The most objective components of metric comparison of living standards (such as health, safety, life expectancy etc.) all favor women significantly. Things like government representation are less clearly associated with living standard because most people don't care about the genitalia of those representing them the way feminists do. Hell even feminists will quickly give up their sexism when it suits their ide… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/19 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Just got this beautiful notification today! It took a year, but this man-hating feminazi is finally gone.Pieces like that are used not for research purposes but to create academic discussion. Post hoc excuse. "Sure it was peer reviewed and approved but yeah well we wouldn't have used it". And like that makes it any better. Using Mein Kampf genuinely as academic discussion on its merits. That's what you get when you put ideology before everything else. Like a forum, just with more decorum. Aha. Even more "decorum". Assuring us that feminists could sink even lower doesn't really make a good defense. … | /r/MensRights | 05/04/19 03:38 PM |
| 4 | Just got this beautiful notification today! It took a year, but this man-hating feminazi is finally gone.You think that 'dogma' didn't have a half billion replies sent to the journal for publishing about what gibberish it was? What are you even talking about? And no, you're not allowed to use an opinion piece They weren't opinion pieces. They were submitted as academic research. Do you think they use peer review for opinion pieces? I love how bad you hate the 'GOTCHA' was absolutely without meaning lol Not sure what you're trying to say. I'm not upset and, even if I was, it wouldn't matter regardin… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/19 08:16 PM |
| 6 | Just got this beautiful notification today! It took a year, but this man-hating feminazi is finally gone.Ah yes, certain journals that don't require researched conclusions (no scientific method application) and often cover 'think pieces' in order to generate discussion in the community and published if the subject is provocative enough. You're making my point. It's not about academic let alone scientific research. It's about political activism. Such articles are not permitted to be used as evidence of anything in academic papers Lol. "Yeah guys there are huge steaming piles of shit all over our kit… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/19 07:21 PM |
| 6 | Just got this beautiful notification today! It took a year, but this man-hating feminazi is finally gone.You mean the academics who can't tell the difference between feminist research and Hitler's rhetoric? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/19 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Revenge for building the entire human civilization?Really? This gets claimed a lot but nobody seems to ever question it. Seriously, what have women contributed to civilization in any significant way that females of other species have not contributed (giving birth)? | /r/MensRights | 25/03/19 08:21 AM |
| 1 | In Canada we have an Amber Alert system - where if a child goes missing - everyone is notified. We had one earlier this week and this is the father’s response. Very poignant explanation of misuse of tBut becoming a father is totally a good idea. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/19 08:52 PM |
| 0 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?You mean I'm still not passing as female? Damn! There go my plans for life in tutorial mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 10:27 PM |
| 3 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?Do tell me more. I'd love to know all about the thing I just told you to talk to somebody else about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?Sigh. If you want to have this discussion, I suggest you have it with the person who framed the it as a scale from one to ten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 09:01 PM |
| -1 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?It means there are a few looks that matter to me. This is a different statement though. The previous was one of extent. And now it's about selection. Eg: Does someone look dangerous? How dangerous? And what's wrong with looking dangerous? Would you prefer harmlessness? What I'm saying is when someone in X demographic has opinion B you don't go "hey wait a minute, all those other people in X gave me opinion A! Which one is the honest one?" Fair enough. On the one hand we have the widely accepted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?Holy crap. It's one of those things we all knew but it still hits you in the face when you see it play out so blatantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 08:40 PM |
| 9 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?Women don't know if they're attracted to a man until they've seen him in action. Oh but they know when they're not attracted to a man long before that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?When I say looks don't matter that much, I AM BEING HONEST. That doesn't mean it's true. Odds are you're just referring to the men who have already passed an unconscious filter. Also what does "that much" really mean? Nothing any other woman says has anything to do with my opinion. You do have your sex in common and the sex of those you're dating. Patterns exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?I would rather date an intelligent, funny, charismatic, sexually stimulating guy of average looks than a 10/10 male model who can't carry his end of a conversation. How about a 10/10 who is average in conversational skills? If you're going to put two examples next to each other, try to do it fairly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Women Say Looks Don't Matter That Much. Is this true?Not true. In fact I'd say women judge men more harshly based on looks. Men have to fit a much narrower and more unforgiving set of criteria than women. And the penalty for failing is much more universal and unforgiving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 08:24 PM |
| 1 | This is the funniest ban I've ever received LMFAOI'm not very familiar with this sub but I'm curious if you believe that there is such a phenomenon as exempting women from responsibility for their bad behavior? And, assuming you do, would the act of pointing it out, in principle, not serve equality the same way it does in other instances of sexism? I'm not saying that's what this sub does because I don't know. I'm you about the principal. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 15/03/19 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on a common Feminist argumentIt's a motte and bailey strategy (though perhaps not conscious). How it plays out in the real world is that they set themselves up for being in a position to dismiss you as a male. But when you challenge that on principal they come out with this claim that it's not about you personally. Very soon they'll return to dismissing you... as a person. The response I'd use, as with most motte and baileys is, whenever they try and sell you the one, remind them that three seconds ago they were trying to s… | /r/MensRights | 04/03/19 09:50 PM |
| 1 | The trans experience can help fight the forced feminization of MenThere's gender, and then there's gender roles. Those are connected too but it's not what we were talking about. Butch women are still female-gendered, for example. Depends on the individual I'd say. Or the definition of "butch women". Are you trying to argue that male people are biologically programmed to act in a "masculine" way? It's more the other way round: "masculine" is what we call traits and behaviors typically associated with male people. That doesn't make them slaves to it. It's a corr… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/19 10:30 AM |
| 2 | George Carlin: WomenIn my experience, such men usually exclude themselves from here anyway as they're far more attracted to feminist spaces and use us as the target of their trash talk. I think that's one reason why we get so much "criticism" in the first place. I certainly don't see many of them here. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/19 10:24 AM |
| 1 | The trans experience can help fight the forced feminization of MenBeing feminine or masculine has nothing to do with being female or male. There are plenty of... The fact that there are exceptions doesn't negate the rule. I'm such an exception myself. And what you call "plenty" is still an exception. The correlation between biological sex and gender is very strong. being a man doesn't give you the right to live out your fucked up idea of what a man should be. Why should a man not live how they think a man should be? And by what right do you deny them the right… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/19 09:19 PM |
| 2 | George Carlin: WomenIt's male mating strategy. He's just trying to be the "one good man". By shitting on all men, he's setting himself apart as superior. The fact that he's combining that with telling women what they want to hear makes this a text book case. Of course it is connected to feminism in as much as feminism relies on this behavior from men to exist at all. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/19 05:47 PM |
| 2 | One of the most delusional sjw I’ve come across.That's been my experience too. Sometimes I respond with "well then rape is female privilege because they get to be the object of uncontrollable lust and men don't". | /r/MensRights | 01/03/19 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Wife who killed husband wins murder conviction appeal. This would never happen the other way around: abuse or no abuse!Good to know, good mod. Not so impressed with the function though. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/19 04:05 PM |
| 2 | George Carlin: WomenI don't think the doctor is playing a character. On the contrary. I think he's being extremely authentic. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/19 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Wife who killed husband wins murder conviction appeal. This would never happen the other way around: abuse or no abuse!Lol. That comment was actually removed. So apparently that rule even takes priority over not removing moderator comments. I wasn't sure if I should approve it - I guess you can do that yourself, right? But it's kind of funny anyway. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/19 07:09 AM |
| 2 | Karen Straughan formally announces International Conference on Men's Issues 2019, ChicagoI don't tend to go to sites that have gotten rid of comment sections on opinion pieces anymore, and neither do a lot of people. Me too. It's stale and unoriginal. Just a rant from some random blogger. Things only ever start getting interesting when there's a discussion. And yet somehow, against this bloated, monied beast, we're making progress. From the bottom up, rather than from the top down. You may not remember but a few years back we had a fundamental discussion like this and I was going on… | /r/MensRights | 25/02/19 10:28 PM |
| 3 | Update: Success! Men and boys included in New Zealand's human rights review.Great job! Thanks for sharing this. Some good news is a welcome change. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/19 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Karen Straughan formally announces International Conference on Men's Issues 2019, ChicagoAlso I've observed feminists in their spaces and, when they don't think we're watching, they consistently express how exhausting they find arguing with MRAs and how "MRA talking points" seem to be spreading. I'm not surprised. It costs much more energy to sell a lie than to identify one. That's why it's not exhausting for us ;) | /r/MensRights | 24/02/19 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Karen Straughan formally announces International Conference on Men's Issues 2019, Chicagobut perhaps red pilling the judge How might we go about this? Say a judge managed to get to that position and still not know that women never falsely cry abuse to get an advantage, it's safe to say they've been brainwashed. We're seeing a bit of purple pilling going on since #MeToo. Yes. I think we're at a bit of a turning point. That's why the screeching is so loud at the moment. It's still very shaky though. If the authoritarians manage to hold on and push things further, it could get quite ba… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/19 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Karen Straughan formally announces International Conference on Men's Issues 2019, ChicagoThe most effective way to advocate for men (in terms of getting people to give a shit about their general wellbeing) is to play the male utility card. Men destroyed, impoverished or crippled by our culture and its laws and policies cannot be useful to women, or to anyone, and will only become burdens on the system. What a refreshingly unusual experience. I'm more pessimistic than you. Seriously, I can't see that working out. The incentive to sacrifice immediate social gratification for potential… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/19 08:43 PM |
| 5 | Feminist deceptionsGenerally speaking there is a strong bias towards woman always being the victim in western society. But i don't think that this is what feminism is about. On the contrary. Feminism is the very expression of that bias. It's what you get in every society that's biased in such a way and can afford to play it. But i really think that this is not the majority. They're just screaming loudest and therefore get the most attention. In most movements, the crazies get ostracized, ignored or challenged. Why… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/19 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Not even Notch can let this bull shit go without a comment.No. Cuntfusion is a much more problematic and real issue. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/19 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do some redpillers get so damn defensive whenever a woman says she wants a man with a decent income?Can't speak for redpillers but I can tell you why I don't like it. Earning a decent income is hard. Taking care of the home is not. Anyone offering the latter in return for the former and selling it as some kind of mutually beneficial "partnership" is just a shameless con artist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 08:23 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] How is MGTOW any different from pop-feminism?MGTOW just do their own thing. No. They're hoping that by making it look like they're doing their own thing, women/society will notice and start caring. The most lost cause ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] How is MGTOW any different from pop-feminism?The main difference is that feminists exert influence in the legal and political spheres. They enjoy immunity from criticism. MGTOW is seen as little more than a joke by most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/19 08:44 PM |
| 3 | Can't we just agree that both sexes have their unique privileges and disadvantages?So. Is it mate selection or survival of the fittest? Both. They also overlap heavily since mate selection is about survival of the offspring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Can't we just agree that both sexes have their unique privileges and disadvantages?Being "connected" isn't the issue. The point is that men being stronger isn't a privilege when it's just an adaptation to a harsher selection process that women were not subjected to. A female privilege such as being inherently valued just for being, by contrast, is not an adaptation to harsher selection. Women didn't have to be female and something else. They just had to be women. Men had to be men and strong (and a whole host of other things). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP, why are you guys so obsessed with feminism?No. Men can't just "do the same". There's a strong ingroup bias among women that men do not have. The result is a 7:1 disadvantage when advocating for men's interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 09:01 PM |
| 7 | Can't we just agree that both sexes have their unique privileges and disadvantages?Men are simply better at pretty much every kind of athletic activity. This is not a privilege. Firstly, it is the consequence of mate selection pressure that women are spared. Yes, men today are stronger but only because they are the few that survived in a ruthless game of survival of the fittest. Most did not. Secondly, that "privilege" comes with a whole host of societal expectations and responsibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Female candidate for federal court judge is being attacked because she said that women have agency and should take responsibility for their actions. Feminism has reversed its view of women in the 21st century, now insisting they are only helpless victims.Question: If she said "2+2=4", would you agree? Yes or no? | /r/MensRights | 06/02/19 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Japan's deputy PM blames women for nation's falling populationLol. "Isle of Sin"? :D | /r/MensRights | 05/02/19 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Gentlemen, I poked the bear... And asked feminists their thoughts on "monogamy"Reddit has made it clear that brigading is a problem and should be prevented. Subs that are found to encourage this can get shut down. So we have to take a hard stance against it. There's also no point. Subs like askfeminists aren't going to change their views no matter what and they will ensure that it stays that way. There are better places to debate with feminists. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/19 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Gentlemen, I poked the bear... And asked feminists their thoughts on "monogamy"Don't call for brigading. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/19 08:59 PM |
| 104 | Why does the feminist movement hate you?The problem is that feminism treats the hypothesis that women are oppressed by men not as a hypothesis but as an axiom to its theories. That means it's never questioned or challenged. And because it happens to be false, pretty much all of their theories are based on a fallacy. MRAs, simply by virtue of existing, call that axiom into question and that threatens to undermine the entirety of the feminist constructs on how society works. You said you're doing gender studies. Are you aware of what's … | /r/MensRights | 03/02/19 08:35 PM |
| 2 | FeminismIn order for you to demonstrate that toxic femininity is an issue you would need to be able to point to some number of negative behaviours that women exhibit as a result of social pressure to conform to a societal standard of femininity. Would eating disorders qualify? Or how about being overly agreeable? | /r/MensRights | 03/02/19 05:29 PM |
| 2 | FeminismIf you are genuinely asking then yes, that is an aspect of toxic masculinity. I'm genuinely asking but your answer is not coherent with the principles of labeling groups of people by their traits. You don't describe something done to a people as a trait of said people. Ideas like "men should be stoic", "men should be big and strong", "men should be the breadwinners" would be examples of societal standards for men which are enforced mostly just via social pressures. These are far older than cultu… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/19 05:23 PM |
| 5 | FeminismIt doesn’t make any sense to call it “toxic femininity” because it isn’t referring to an aspect of how women are supposed to be behave It makes even less sense to call behavior expected of people as a trait of said people. It's those doing the expecting whose trait it is. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 09:26 PM |
| 5 | FeminismLoaded question. It's not an aspect of masculinity. In fact, all things considered, women probably play a bigger part in perpetuation it than men. They certainly have more power to undo it. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 09:21 PM |
| 4 | FeminismFair enough but feminism is definitely doing it too and, unlike everyone else, feminists lay claim to being the movement for equality that fights against traditional gender stereotypes. So they don't have the excuse of ignorance or indifference like the masses have. All that considered, I think it's fair to point this out as a feminist trait. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 09:20 PM |
| 1 | FeminismThat makes the one the consequence of the other (+prosperity). | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 09:15 PM |
| 15 | FeminismThe top panel is basically textbook definition toxic masculinity. So telling men to adhere to a traditional gender role is "toxic masculinity"? Ok. Is telling women to get back into the kitchen "toxic femininity"? And if so, then why do feminists not call it that? | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 09:13 PM |
| 9 | FeminismHow is OP doing that? | /r/MensRights | 02/02/19 09:10 PM |
| 1 | I got banned from AskFeminists, for asking a legitimate question XDPlease read our posting guidelines in the side bar. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 10:24 PM |
| 4 | Imagine if a guy were to tweet about raping a woman starting with "funny story"I'm confused Yup. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 10:18 PM |
| 2 | The gender privilege mythEgalitarianism is equality across the board. Then you agree that men should have the right to abort their offspring. Thanks for clearing that up :D | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Imagine if a guy were to tweet about raping a woman starting with "funny story"typhonblue is a woman you absolute moron. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 09:57 PM |
| 2 | The gender privilege mythSo much for surprising me. I may as well have been talking to a bot. sudo shutdown -h now | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 09:50 PM |
| 3 | The gender privilege mythGo for it! Surprise me. Please! | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 09:28 PM |
| 3 | Why do women deserve to be treated badly after making ‘mistakes’?Do you deny that women have a preference for dangerous men? What do you think is the consequence of choosing dangerous men over harmless men? And why should we absolve women from the responsibility from those consequences? Also, do you deny that women have more power in mate selection than men? And consequently, it's mostly women's mate selection that drives gender relations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Why do women deserve to be treated badly after making ‘mistakes’?Do you know of Earl Silverman? He "took your advice" and wound up committing suicide. So, why don't you show us how it's done, and if you succeed, I'll gladly defer to you. But until then, I will dismiss everything else you have to say as mindless virtue signalling. Bye. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 09:11 PM |
| 10 | The gender privilege mythIt's called egalitarianism. Oh please. Are you even aware that "egalitarianism" is considered sexist against women? Stop "picking sides" and fight for equal rights and equal responsibilities from all I'm sure it makes you feel great about yourself to waltz in with grand claims about standing above all the "picking sides" by being for "equality for all", but it's not exactly how the world works: Should men have the right to abort a pregnancy of their child? Yes or no? There goes your "equality fo… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 08:47 PM |
| 2 | The gender privilege mythWell I wish you good luck. Never saw Divorce Corp so I can't comment on that. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 08:34 PM |
| -1 | The gender privilege mythThat article just does a more refined sounding version of what you did: claim that women attempt suicide more often than men. Where is the actual evidence? Incidentally, it does also say this: No complete count is kept of suicide attempts in the U.S.; however, each year the CDC gathers data from hospitals on non-fatal injuries from self-harm as well as survey data. I suspect this popular claim comes from statistics that include self-harm. That would explain a lot. But I think we can safely say t… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 08:30 PM |
| 3 | The gender privilege mythYes. Also those men at the top, you can bet they're giving much if not most of their resources to women. It's not like they marry middle class women and deny them entry into their villas. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 07:13 PM |
| -1 | The gender privilege mythThere's no doubt that women attempt suicide more often Have you ever actually seen any evidence of this? Because I haven't. And I've never met anybody who has. Are you the first maybe? | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 07:10 PM |
| 5 | The gender privilege mythThere's a small part of me that hopes I can gradually shift her views or at least get her to see that mens rights activists aren't basement dwelling incels as many think. I see. Fair enough. I suggest to show her Cassie Jaye's documentary "The Red Pill". In case you don't already know it, she was a feminist and while making it, changed her mind. The reason it's so interesting is that she sheds light on how it's often so difficult for women to see MRAs point of view. Here's a TedX talk that might… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 07:07 PM |
| 12 | The gender privilege mythHe's in a relationship that works despite their difference of opinion on this issue, and he should just dump her? I can't understand why you'd want to be together with someone who thinks you're an enemy because you were born a certain way. It's not a competition on who's getting fucked over more than the other. I'm afraid it is. That's how feminists have justified sexism against men for decades. There's no way of countering that without playing the same game. I also find it baffling that people … | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 07:03 PM |
| 9 | Masculinity is now a psychological disorder. Yet more disgusting trends in our culture and absurd throat clearing from feminists in the Atlantic.(You might want to know that linking to menslib got this comment filtered) Thanks to the grievance studies hoax I think we can safely dismiss anything that relies on "feminist scholars" as nothing more than fanatic feelspeak. Your refutations, while good, aren't even necessary. Hypotheses are neither conclusions nor axioms. Men having privilege is nothing more than a hypothesis. The proof on its validity has not been found and that is certainly not for lack of trying. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/19 08:25 PM |
| 1 | MGM is at least as bad as FGMWhat is your approach? I wouldn't let them drag you down into arguing about which is worse. It's irrelevant - especially since they're against any form of FGM even if it's less severe than MGM. So what they're really trying to hide is that they do indeed think FGM is worse but only because it's happening to girls. Then you can challenge them on that. Or just focus on the medical facts. The good news is, a number of countries have it outlawed so clearly there's a chance. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/19 07:00 PM |
| 0 | MGM is at least as bad as FGMNo. Saying this, will only turn people against you. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/19 09:09 PM |
| 2 | What is a man? A response to Gillette - Spread this far and wide if only for the statisticsI believe that the toxicity related to men is not a toxicity within men. The toxicity related to men is extrinsic, wielded against men, via outdated dogma, by the culture we're all a part of. Ok but who is wielding it and why? What is "the culture"? My problem with this explanation is that 1) it has no actual explanatory value whatsoever and 2) it lays the foundation for blaming men. Because many people will just assume that "culture" is mostly run by men and conclude that yes, men are indeed in… | /r/MensRights | 21/01/19 06:57 AM |
| 2 | This article sums up why so many men are angry about Gillette's ad perfectly, in my view it should be spread far and wide and used to rebut any of the usual "if you're upset, you're part of the problem" bullshitWhat exactly is it you think I misunderstood? | /r/MensRights | 20/01/19 03:00 PM |
| 2 | This article sums up why so many men are angry about Gillette's ad perfectly, in my view it should be spread far and wide and used to rebut any of the usual "if you're upset, you're part of the problem" bullshitIn other words, you make a claim you cannot prove. And you know what they say about something claimed without evidence. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/19 09:55 AM |
| 4 | This article sums up why so many men are angry about Gillette's ad perfectly, in my view it should be spread far and wide and used to rebut any of the usual "if you're upset, you're part of the problem" bullshitYou made a claim, it's on you to back it up. That's how civil discourse works. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/19 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeI'll leave you alone with your straw man. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/19 09:36 AM |
| 0 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeI never said they were useless. I said it was mostly men who have contributed to civilization. And that isn't sexism anymore than saying men built most of the buildings is sexism. Somebody should tell you that misrepresenting people doesn't help you make your case. Still waiting for evidence of your claim about this thread or you retracting that claim. Come on. Show some integrity and surprise me. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/19 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeNot true. Many do and many do not. Regardless, it's just part of reproduction. And that is indeed what all species do. If you think that the nurturing of child doesn't contribute to civilization It only contributes the way breathing does. It's necessary but not sufficient. Otherwise all species would be building civilizations. We know from studies that the nurturing of a child influences their future. Sure. But what that child winds up doing is only an accomplishment of the mother to the extent … | /r/MensRights | 16/01/19 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeDo you believe babies raised themselves? This is what the females of all sexually reproducing species do. It's not a contribution to civilization. It's just survival. Necessary for sure. Not special though. How about the production of clothing early on? Picking certain vegetation and the production of meals should not be discounted. To the extent that women were responsible for these, they absolutely do not compare to things like industrialization (you know that evil patriarchy thing). This ad i… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/19 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeOur society is where it is at today because of PEOPLE. No it really is mostly men who have contributed to civilization. There are more than enough positive ads that have been made Not on this. Everybody keeps going on about the evil patriarchy and male failings. instead of promoting the inaccurate idea that we're always the best. Where are you getting that impression? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/19 09:51 PM |
| 4 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeIt's not more important than free expression. Consistent shit is still shit. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/19 07:33 AM |
| 30 | Let’s Make Gillette’s new ad the most disliked video on YouTubeI'm not a fan of that. I don't want it taken down. I want to watch it crash and burn. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/19 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Why being yourself works for women.That's because of social norms about approaching women. Not because they wouldn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workAnything which concludes that Saudi fucking Arabia is the most favorable nation on the planet towards women Are you able to understand the difference between an absolute quantity and a relative quantity? Saying A>B is not refuted with "but B is huge". Likewise the claim "Men have it worse than women" is not refuted with "women have it terrible". Can you understand that? | /r/MensRights | 08/01/19 09:10 PM |
| 5 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workSo because a study doesn't yield the result you want to hear, it must be flawed. I'll be sure to consult you on your desired out come (women have it bad I presume?) before researching anything. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/19 08:31 AM |
| 3 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workYes it's amazing how many people respond to "men have it worse than women" with "STOP SAYING WOMEN DON'T HAVE IT BAD!" It's like we have dozens of Cathy Newman bots. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/19 08:30 AM |
| 2 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workThe chance of a man being executed in Saudi Arabia is very small It's not a game of chance. People generally want to live and will take precautions not to get executed in the face of that risk. If one group of people is being executed more often that means they are clearly less able to prevent it. And that is telling us something about the entire group, not just those who wound up executed. The chance of a women being discriminated in health care is probably a daily occurrence. Where's your data… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/19 08:26 AM |
| 13 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workIf some study says something ridiculous sounding, like Saudi Arabia is awash with female privilege making Sweden look like a poster child of patriarchy Straw man. Again, that is not what's being claimed here. Why do you keep trying to argue against something nobody is saying? The fact that Saudi Arabia ranks where it does is evidence that the metrics are tailor made to make men look oppressed. So any indication that men are oppressed is evidence that they aren't? How would you go about proving m… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 10:10 PM |
| 7 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workAs incredible as it first sounds, Saudi Arabia may well be more gender egalitarian than the west, because both sexes suffer discrimination (in different ways). In feminist societies the discrimination only goes in one direction -- against males. That's my suspicion. I've tried to search for information on SA and it's actually very hard to come by. There's lots of material on the mistreatment of women. But it's almost impossible to find any on how men are mistreated let alone comparing the two. S… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 10:04 PM |
| 13 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workSo is men’s rights now about countering feminism? It's about countering sexism. Funny how that always seems to put us in opposition to feminism. To me it feels like it should be about insisting on a fare shake from men’s side. And how do you do that without pointing out where it's unfair? And how do you do that without making a comparison? I’m not interested in getting in a pissing match over who’s got it worse (I’m a guy and, hint, the answer is women) Actually it's not. The stats are very clea… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 09:53 PM |
| 9 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workI dont think it controversial that women are oppressed in Saudi Arabia. But has anybody quantified the rate of oppression that women experience in comparison to what men experience? Because, until that's been done, we can't go by anything other than the metrics used in studies like this. women are treated worse in Saudi Arabia than in Sweden. Nobody is saying otherwise. It's a measurement of how women are treated relative to men in their respective nation states. And the result of that relation … | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 09:16 PM |
| 19 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workBecause feminists have made it one from the start and used that to justify discrimination against men. And the only way to fight that is to show that it's not true that women have it worse which means showing that men have it worse. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 08:47 PM |
| 4 | Men 'face MORE discrimination than women': Global study claims males receive the raw end of the deal with harsher punishments for the same crime, compulsory military service and more deaths at workBut how is this quantified? You seem very certain so I presume you have some information on this. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/19 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Men are opressed, because for majority is impossible to find REAL looksmatchYeah. It's a bit of a tangential point. I guess I'm talking from the hope that, while we may never make things fair between the sexes, we can at acknowledge the state of unfairness objectively. That would, all else failing, help us avoid making things even more unfair than they need to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Men are opressed, because for majority is impossible to find REAL looksmatchThe real problem here is that sexual dimorphism is sometimes inconvenient. Human biology has a specific nature, and sometimes asymmetries between the sexes. But that isn't oppression But would you not agree that society's treatment of said inconveniences might indeed be cruel and unjust? With almost no exception, every inconvenience that women suffer is somehow men's fault or at least responsibility to rectify and every inconvenience men suffer is - guess what - somehow men's fault or at least r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/19 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionOf course and an individual can decide that for himself. But that doesn't just remove the internal structures that drive your decision making. You'll still be influenced by the reproductive pressure even if you choose not to reproduce. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/19 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionNow instead of expressing your rage with the downvote button, how about you get some courage and answer my questions? | /r/MensRights | 04/01/19 07:13 AM |
| 0 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionWhen the average male is obese, being fit easily puts you into top 30% territory. Do you know what percentage is? If the "average male" becomes fit, then the 30% will only have shifted to be more demanding. Your own claim is that women only want the top 20-30% so "easy" is entirely subjective. Marriage largely did away with the sexual market, and with the collapse of marriage in the last 50 years, society is reverting to the natural sexual imperatives. If marriage was so unnatural and artificial… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 10:57 PM |
| 0 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionThere's always going to be men who are lazy and never work as well. "As well" as what? In fact, most men in the west are fat and lazy. Ok so tell me: is the living standard of women better today than, say, 100 years ago or not? What about 500 years or 5000 years? Who is better at keeping women safe and healthy? Today's "men in the west" or, well, anyone else? How about anything else? Is any organism that ever existed in the entire known history of the planet managed to make female humans as safe… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 10:38 PM |
| 2 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionNot for women in France. Not long ago a court ruled a man to be fined for not giving his wife the sex she wanted. Feminists would call that institutionalized rape if it were done to women. The fact that it was done to men and still is, well, toxic whatever I guess. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionProblem is, being alive isn't the primary purpose of an organism. Reproduction is. Without the latter, the former is biologically useless and an evolutionary failure. That's why parents will often sacrifice their lives for the survival of their offspring. It's built into them that their own survival is less important than reproducing successfully. To equate it with drinking champagne is about as fair and accurate as calling society a tyrannical patriarchy. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionWhat a stupid analogy. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionThat's a good point. And some perhaps do even worse and settle for any kind of relationship in preference to being alone and the cycle of abuse continues. In fact I wonder how many men who officially aren't incels are in relationships with such power differential that there's no hope of mutual trust and companionship because she could find someone any day of the week just by walking upright and not saying "no" once while he would have to spend a ton or resources on the mere possibility of findin… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionJust wrote a comment making pretty much the same case just differently. Glad somebody else realizes this. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 09:56 PM |
| 0 | Incels are a Symptom of a Bigger Problem With Male DepressionWomen generally only mate with the top 20-30% of men....Incels, at large, know what they want, but they aren't willing to work for it. Do you really understand your own worldview? If women only mate with the top 20-30% of men, then no amount of work by men will change that. The bottom 70-80% of men will always exist. An individual man can only change his odds of being in one group vs the other. Most men will always be unwanted regardless of how hard all men work. Sure you can just say "I don't o… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/19 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Because people should be held responsible only for their own decisions, not the decisions of others. And women, being people, should also be held responsible for their decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Men can't have casual sex.. Is that true for women too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 08:58 PM |
| 1 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.I must have missed that one. Yeah and in the case of gender "studies" preachers, they're so used to spouting crap without scrutiny that they have Tourettes level capacity to think before they speak when it comes to bashing men. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/18 08:52 PM |
| 1 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Because men can be dismissed as losers who can't get laid and many other "tricks" that wouldn't work on women. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/18 08:42 PM |
| 1 | I love woman who go on a anti men rant when I say I'm mra, and then I reply that I'm a woman.Some of the worst of them, with the most foul mouthed, infantile vitriol, often turn out to be professors or something like that. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/18 08:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Toxic masculinity doesn't benefit men.It has the great benefit of not being gendered and therefore settles any suspicion of sexism. That's not a benefit at all. Why would that not be a benefit unless you want people to see it as sexism? How? They quite clearly talk about "traits that society considers to be appropriate for a man". Look at your own links what they write. Example: Some typical traits of masculinity include physical strength, a muscular body, and facial hair. Your own links contradict you. Toxic masculine gender roles … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Toxic masculinity doesn't benefit men.Patriarchy has no gender. 1) It does. 2) Even if it didn't, the argument stands on the definition of being a system run by and for men, gendered or not. If you want to make actual arguments you've got to stop arguing against strawmen arguments. That's not a straw man. You used the word patriarchy yourself. If you have a special private definition of the term then it's on you to say so in advance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:29 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Toxic masculinity doesn't benefit men.Women are part of society so I do not understand how blaming society is the same as blaming men. Because the people who blame society, conveniently happen to also believe that society is run by and for men (otherwise known as "patriarchy"). That's just the strawman you desperately want to believe in. This opens an interesting question: Why would anyone want to believe that if it's not true? What's the incentive? There's plenty of incentive to deny it. Feminists do not say that maleness is bad an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 09:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Toxic masculinity doesn't benefit men.It has the great benefit of not being gendered and therefore settles any suspicion of sexism. That's not a benefit at all. Why would that not be a benefit unless you want people to see it as sexism? In order to specifically address problems that affect men it makes perfect sense to use a term that talks specifically about harmful gender norms that affect men. Then say "male gender role excess". But don't attribute something done to a group to the group itself. Anti-semitism isn't "toxic Judaism"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 08:51 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Toxic masculinity doesn't benefit men.Toxic masculinity refers to those gender norms that are hilariously stupid and/or obviously self-destructive extremes. There's no reason to call that "toxic masculinity". Far more precise and less ambiguous would be to call it extreme/excessive gender norms. It has the great benefit of not being gendered and therefore settles any suspicion of sexism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 08:33 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: Should there be stricter and more gender neutral dresscodes in the workplace?So she could have easily dressed down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/18 10:56 AM |
| 0 | Q4All: Should there be stricter and more gender neutral dresscodes in the workplace?Did she wear makeup and what was her hairstyle? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Should there be stricter and more gender neutral dresscodes in the workplace?Being attractive has nothing to do with wanting to be advanced upon. What does it have to do with then? Do people who try to look rich, dress that way so people will try to get them to donate? Probably not. But they do dress that way for a reason and that won't be just "because it makes me feel good". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Feminist wants to know: who should pay on the date?All this is based on the logic that men must have a relationship with a woman, and therefore they must take 'whatever they can get'. Is the logic flawed or is the premise false? Keep in mind that OP is asking about dating so we've already set the scope to be those men who are seeking relationships. hate this attitude because it causes men to see their value entirely based on their ability to please women, thereby leading to gynocentricity and all the problems associated with that. I share that s… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/18 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Feminist wants to know: who should pay on the date?What I don’t understand is why are men not okay with bing single? If you don’t find a woman that shares the same ideals of equality, wouldn’t you just be settling? Why not just be single? Most people aren't ok with being single. Women settle all the time too. The question is, as you get older and lonelier, is it worth holding on to principals? Everybody has to decide that for themselves. But it's normal for humans to pair up. So most will do that. But most women don't want equality so that means… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/18 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Feminist wants to know: who should pay on the date?I do hope you stop fully footing the bill I wasn't talking about myself. I understand what you mean about women not having the incentive to do so just because society doesn’t place that expectation on them It's not society placing expectations. It's circumstances. Women typically select a man from multiple suitors. Men try to find a woman who will select them. Because of that, women can impose requirements on their date far more than men can. Ironically, the only thing I can imagine that might t… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/18 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Feminist wants to know: who should pay on the date?I know this argument and it's not without merit. The problem is that this "weeding out" is a luxury that most men cannot afford. If, after you're done weeding out, there's nobody left, then that cost becomes to high for most men. That's why so many continue to pay. It comes down to earning one's value for a relationship with a woman. Whether it's through financial means or otherwise. I don't think it's realistic to tell men they don't have to earn their value and that they can find women who wil… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/18 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Tweet of the yearWe know it. But the world doesn't That's one of the few things that really can change. And it's the first thing we have to do before we can do the others. And, to be Frank, I think that in wealthy countries there is enough money for everyone to live a happy life unless you completely mess up - or have all too high expectations. In principal yes (though the quantity of money isn't the factor her and your son will explain why), but we will have to address the difference in opportunity and that is … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Feminism is necessary“utopia”, ... The ideal world where judgment is based only on one’s own actions. Are you aware that we're born with very different cognitive ability? I'm fortunate to be around two standard deviations above the average but I did nothing to deserve it. It was just luck. But it gives me a massive advantage in those actions you describe we should be judged by. How would your Utopian society address this unfairness? To me, feminism is still necessary because females are just trying to catch up to th… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Tweet of the yearThe difference between us is that he has worked hard for success while I spend my time here. :D You mean you're not getting rich and successful form commenting here? I'll be damned. More men tend to get rich, more women tend to get happy? Where's the problem? The one is, by definition, constrained by a Pareto distribution. The other is not. In other words, happiness can be achieved by most women. Wealth cannot be achieved by most men (or women for that matter). That and the fact that feminists, … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 09:36 PM |
| 1 | What Happened When A White Cop Decided Not to Shoot a Black Man (It's about a man trying to commit suicide by cop)I look forward to reading it. And please address the abysmal feminist retort "but women attempt suicide more often" as if it somehow mitigates the gender disparity. And, to my knowledge, there is actually no evidence of that either but I'm not quite up to date on that. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Tweet of the yearbut if men are complicit in building the system for sexual selection it's a bit rich to berate women for it. They don't have much choice. Those who didn't, had no offspring and became evolutionary dead-ends. We're the offspring of those who did. Also, there is actually remarkably little berating of women for this. That's because complaining is also a sign of failure and weakness. The few who do berate women are shunned and socially ostracized. I still wouldn't blame women for it though. Agreed. … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 09:14 PM |
| 20 | Tweet of the yearMany of the grievances of the men’s rights movement are entirely compatible with the framework of feminist theory. The grievance studies hoax has destroyed any academic credibility feminists lay claim to. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Tweet of the yearWomen were a tiny proportion of the office workforce when suits were adopted as uniform. It's not as direct as that. To make it super short and simple: Men set up hierarchies and women pick from the top of those hierarchies. Wearing a suit that symbolizes professionalism and teamwork is necessary to rise in most if not all hierarchies. Women also dress in a way that's sexually attractive (lower necklines, bare legs / tights showing form). So, both sexes are in on this particular sexist oppressio… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Tweet of the yearI think it's more indirect than that (though there is a lot of what you said too): All things considered women can and have picked from the top of the heap of men. The closer you get to that top, the more you'll find traits that pertain to success. One of those is to have a good appearance but it should signify competence and teamwork, not self-expression. That's why men's career fashion is so constrained. Feminists wrongly assume that men have set this up to keep women out. But it's really just… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 08:46 PM |
| 18 | Tweet of the yearDress code for men: suit thats it You forgot short hair. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Feminist wants to know: who should pay on the date?There are many people here from different backgrounds and political beliefs. You're asking the question as if there's some unified philosophy about this. That's not the case. Now to answer your question: I'd like to live in a world where being male doesn't mean one has to earn one's value by providing women with resources. Unfortunately, we don't have much of a choice because you can't bestow something with value just by demanding or begging that it be valued. So my advice to men dating is that … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | What Happened When A White Cop Decided Not to Shoot a Black Man (It's about a man trying to commit suicide by cop)Ok that's really interesting. I've approved it. I think the problem might be in the title. People rarely read further on than that and perhaps an opening paragraph and so they report it. Btw. when in doubt, one can always make a text post with the link and hopefully a discussion of how it pertains to men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/18 08:32 PM |
| 1 | What Happened When A White Cop Decided Not to Shoot a Black Man (It's about a man trying to commit suicide by cop)I see. And what do you think about that relation? Perhaps I've missed something. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/18 07:33 PM |
| 2 | What Happened When A White Cop Decided Not to Shoot a Black Man (It's about a man trying to commit suicide by cop)Please try to stay on topic in the future. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/18 04:20 PM |
| 3 | Men Bereaved by Abortion – men whose children have been aborted experience grief, guilt, anger, depression, anxiety, helplessness, powerlessness, and other feelings akin to PTSDWhat is the meaning of maternity really? Is is it some beautiful, divine gift of life or is it just a biological function akin to excretion? If it's the former, then abortion is a terrible thing to do and we should be able to say so - irrespective of whether it should be allowed. And if it's the latter, then mothers shouldn't have any special say in what happens to their offspring after birth that fathers don't have. They don't know better and shouldn't be treated as if they do. Pick one. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Sex Workers Say Incel Campaign to Report Them to IRS Won’t WorkBut don't you find the similarity interesting? Have you considered asking yourself what, deep down, is motivating you? Because odds are high that that too is similar. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/18 11:15 AM |
| 5 | Wtf sexism is sexism no matter to whomActually they can fail. When it comes to the subject of feminism, dictionaries are in a bit of a bind because the "academic" feminist circles are given completely unwarranted credibility by public institutions. Problem is, lexicographers don't know this (yet) which means they will wrongly treat so-called academic feminists as reliable sources to draw from. Hopefully the grievance studies hoax will shed some light on this. But given the reaction so far, I'm not optimistic. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 08:23 PM |
| 4 | Wtf sexism is sexism no matter to whomyou build off of what the dictionary says into how the words and phrases are used in the real world. The whole point of these dictionaries is to describe the meanings of words by their usage. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 07:39 PM |
| 1 | I do not believe the article but: POLITICAL dominatrix who uses mind games to humiliate her submissives reveals how she focuses her unique skills on white, right-wing men in order to turn them into socialists. More example of male hate in the press.Yeah and we're seeing the push back already. Guess who will be exempt from the draconian article 13? That with the adpocalypse and the no-platforming wave is telling me that things are going to get worse before they get better. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Sex Workers Say Incel Campaign to Report Them to IRS Won’t WorkYou misunderstood. I'm not saying MRAs are like incels. I'm saying what you wrote about incels resembles what feminists say about MRAs. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 06:23 PM |
| 1 | I do not believe the article but: POLITICAL dominatrix who uses mind games to humiliate her submissives reveals how she focuses her unique skills on white, right-wing men in order to turn them into socialists. More example of male hate in the press.Yeah I can't stand people making their kinks political. That applies just as much to those going on about female helplessness. Except there's much more of the latter. Yes, I'm into femdom too. And few people are as disappointing as self-described "strong" women or high-status career women who are more stereotypically submissive than anyone else (another feminist myth busted). I've noticed that about news media. They're clearly in a transition phase. It doesn't look like they're going anywhere go… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Sex Workers Say Incel Campaign to Report Them to IRS Won’t WorkThis could be a word for word quote of what feminists say about us. Don't you think that's curious? | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 04:26 PM |
| 1 | I do not believe the article but: POLITICAL dominatrix who uses mind games to humiliate her submissives reveals how she focuses her unique skills on white, right-wing men in order to turn them into socialists. More example of male hate in the press.What's interesting about this case is, from my experience, I believe quite a few male subs are attracted to feminism because of this kind of denigration. I've just never seen it so openly practiced, explicitly and exclusively for political reasons. I mean she is effectively saying she's not really into this kink as she wouldn't do it to anyone else. She isn't dominant. She's just a fanatic ideologue. I never understood what guys get out of that. Femdom, sure but this isn't that. It's just misand… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Sex Workers Say Incel Campaign to Report Them to IRS Won’t WorkHow so? | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Sex Workers Say Incel Campaign to Report Them to IRS Won’t WorkHave you perhaps responded to the wrong comment? Because I cannot see how, looking at my comment and the one I'm responding to, would prompt anyone to get the impression that I'm the one being hysterical. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 02:46 PM |
| 4 | Sex Workers Say Incel Campaign to Report Them to IRS Won’t WorkI think we need to push back against these guys as hard as we do the feminists They aren't our responsibility though. In fact, they are one the consequences of male disposability and political gynocentrism - the very things driving feminism that we've been fighting for decades. I don't know what the solution is but I know what it's not: calling them evil and mocking and shaming them. No incel will ever stop being an incel that way. because try and recruit men who are in pain and lost and they dr… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/18 08:33 AM |
| – | Reminder that true feminists are still pro-men as wellThe following is a comment by Karen Straughan in response to a feminist who thinks the many blatant sexists among feminists aren't real feminists: So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of … | /r/MensRights | 01/12/18 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Given a taste of power and independence, females will kill anyone in their way and then kill each other.Titles like that do not belong here. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/18 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Woman asks guys to delete their sex videos. He complies, but she keeps copies, heavily edits them, and accuses him of rape. $40,000 in lawyers later, the original iPhone videos are retrieved forensically and the charges are dropped.The reality is that well over 1,000,000 Men exercise power as street level bureaucrats. Hardly a majority. Especially when counting women too. Clearly not representative of men as a group. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 01/12/18 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Woman asks guys to delete their sex videos. He complies, but she keeps copies, heavily edits them, and accuses him of rape. $40,000 in lawyers later, the original iPhone videos are retrieved forensically and the charges are dropped.What in the blazers are you talking about? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 30/11/18 10:57 PM |
| 3 | Woman asks guys to delete their sex videos. He complies, but she keeps copies, heavily edits them, and accuses him of rape. $40,000 in lawyers later, the original iPhone videos are retrieved forensically and the charges are dropped.Your ascribing power to men as a group based on the fact that those in power are mostly men. Just like it does not follow that most mothers are child murderers because most infanticide is committed by mothers, it also does not follow that men on average have power because a tiny minority of men have power. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 30/11/18 10:20 PM |
| 3 | Woman asks guys to delete their sex videos. He complies, but she keeps copies, heavily edits them, and accuses him of rape. $40,000 in lawyers later, the original iPhone videos are retrieved forensically and the charges are dropped.Your argument is fallacious. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 30/11/18 07:45 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menIt is an example of security. Property and security are not the same thing. Why is the redaction so important? Again, explain yourself. You asked that before and I answered before: It would demonstrate 1) some consistency, 2) that you have the integrity to take responsibility for what you said 3) that you aren't a blatant liar at least in this instance, 4) you have the capacity to admit saying something incorrect and 5) it would get me to stop pressing you on this issue. But why is it so importa… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/18 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Science finally proves liberalism/feminism is a mental disorder which makes them less likely to be repulsed by the depravities of a hedonistic society.What does this have to do with men's rights? | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 10:13 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?I literally just offered to apply the same standard to positive and negative things. Now you just paste in an accusation of double standards. I'm not sure what you want from me. I already offered to give you the one thing you said I should have done differently. Can you not even acknowledge that? I also offered you to come to an agreement on what constitutes a reasonable standard. In fact, I'll go a step further and ask you to tell me what the right standard is that I should hold. How about that… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 07:14 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?What you should have done is say "Oh hey that is an extremely influential feminist saying something that I agree with! Well done." But no. I didn't know that was even in dispute. Why should I tell you something I presume you already agree with? Or do you just need to see the words written? Then why not just ask instead of assuming bad faith based on generalizations? I just have absolutely no faith that I will ever clear what ever bar you, the individual, have set. Well if you think the bar is un… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 05:24 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menIt clearly says women are in charge of property. But not security apparently. Then don't present this as an example of security. It's not and you know it. And again, you deflect. If you want to move on, then all you have to do is answer. Choice is yours: Continue making up excuses or answer. You focus on something that is not material for the argument. You see I don't buy that that's your issue with it. If it were, you'd have just answered and retracted. You refuse to do that and that can only m… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 04:56 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?Can you get specific? I mean what exactly should I have done differently and why? Also, regardless of my apparent resemblance to the group, that doesn't necessitate you treating me as a group, right? I generally try to avoid falling into that way of thinking. That's why I'm not talking to you as anything but an individual. Can you do the same? | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 04:47 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menSecurity as it is also about land rights Again: show me the example where (men's) security is explicitly a female gender role. And why would I redact something that is irrelevant? It would demonstrate 1) some consistency, 2) that you have the integrity to take responsibility for what you said 3) that you aren't a blatant liar at least in this instance, 4) you have the capacity to admit saying something incorrect and 5) it would get me to stop pressing you on this issue. 5) in particular will pro… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 02:44 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menIt does specifically say women are in charge of food production. You wrote "food and security". Where is the security? Men's in particular. As I said, nothing in my argument hinges on that. So it is irrelevant for humans being social. Did you or did you not say it? Yes or no? You don't get to complain that it's irrelevant when it was you who said it in the first place. And irrelevance isn't a reason not to admit saying it. I don't need to retract it because, as I said, it is neither necessary no… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 02:14 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menFood and security are protection. Can't be clearer. Find the specific example where security is women's job to provide for men. Nowhere in the link you posted did I see that. Did you or did you not say "All species are social at some level." It's a simple yes or no question. Answer it with "yes" or "no". Why are you afraid of answering that question? It's only your own words we're talking about. Do you not stand by them? Then just retract the statement. If yo do, then just say "yes". But it's no… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 08:50 AM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?First of all, in what way? And secondly, I asked you to not just make it about the subreddit but talk to me as an individual. Can you do that? | /r/MensRights | 28/11/18 08:45 AM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menYes, I did find example of women as protectors. Precisely what is it you mean by this, where specifically is the example and how does it serve to illustrate women being responsible for men's safety? The claim is unnecessary for my argument but generalizes to it :) Did you or did you not say "All species are social at some level." It's a simple yes or no question. Answer it with "yes" or "no". Why are you afraid of answering that question? It's only your own words we're talking about. Do you not … | /r/MensRights | 27/11/18 09:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairThe same applies both ways: anecdote of exception doesn't refute the pattern. And claims about men/women aren't claims about you as an individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 09:44 AM |
| 2 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?I don't think you, the human, are dishonest. I think that this subreddit has reached the point .... The people in this subreddit don't want menslib to be just-fine-and-ok. They don't want feminists to actually care about men too. You're talking to me here, not the subreddit. And I'm asking you again, treating me as an individual with the things I wrote, what is it that you take issue with? And try to avoid references to any group and treat what I wrote on its own merit. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/18 09:42 AM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?Why? I thought my previous comment sharing my motivation would demonstrate me reaching out for dialogue. I was willing to take the risk of exposing some of my personal vulnerability. And the example you gave, I think my response is justified, don't you? I mean would you accept a single out of context quote as proof of a general claim about feminists? I doubt it. And you respond with what is essentially just an attempt to dismiss me as dishonest. Is that really the best you can do? | /r/MensRights | 26/11/18 08:56 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menNo, safe and 'men and children first' is not the same thing. So do you concede that you did not find examples of something of this kind? I argued safe and protect, I met that standard. You can meet whatever other standard you like. But it does nothing to the point that there is no example of reversed gender roles where the responsibility for the safety of men lies with women. And as I just said Did you or did you not say "All species are social at some level." It's a simple yes or no question. A… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/18 08:48 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?That's not really a call for taking responsibility for the well being of men. And where is the push for it and how do feminists react in general to the idea? And looking through a few quotes from the same text showed up this little gem: “Men do oppress women. People are hurt by rigid sexist role patterns. These two realities coexist. Male oppression of women cannot be excused by the recognition that there are ways men are hurt by rigid sexist roles. Feminist activists should acknowledge that hur… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/18 08:24 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menthe responsibility to keep a man safe and by example of "men and children first" policies. Do you understand that or do you not? We are talking about humans You weren't when you said "All species are social at some level." Now is that what you said or isn't it? | /r/MensRights | 26/11/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairYou are not all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 08:01 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?What kind of evidence would be sufficient? I had to think about that for a bit. An easy question but not an easy answer. Almost my entire life I have sought contrarian gender role expressions. I am very practiced at seeing through veiled attempts to masquerade female victimhood as something progressive that would somehow liberate men from being provider and protector. So to attempt a first answer to you question: There would need to be a call for women taking responsibility for the well being of… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 09:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairThey don't "love" risk. They're just more likely to be in a situation that warrants taking risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 09:31 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?I think you misunderstood. Women caring about men in their families is nothing new and predates feminism by about the age of humanity. I'm talking about caring about men just for being men with no other qualifier. Also it's one thing to "support" it but another to make a conscious effort to implement it. Give me one reason to believe that feminists in general have anything but token appreciation for gender role reversal. And I really want to be wrong on this. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 09:24 PM |
| 2 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?I don't even think feminists like feminine men. They just hate masculinity much more - though in their minds "masculinity" is a twisted caricature of masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 09:09 PM |
| 1 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?Feminists tend to advocate breaking down gender roles. Really? How about a genuinely revolutionary idea in matters of gender roles: Have women adopt responsibility for the well being of men. It's certainly a solid stance against gender stereotypes, don't you think? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 09:05 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menActually, I think we just disagree about what protection consists in. That's irrelevant. I told you specifically what I mean about 5 times. Here's another: the responsibility to keep a man safe and by example of "men and children first" policies. Do you understand that or do you not? And if not, then what is it you don't understand about it? And if you genuinely believe you've supplied examples of this particular phenomenon, then I want a direct quote with reference. And yes, all species are str… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 08:42 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menUm property and food is being responsible. Stop pretending to not understand. I told you what I mean. I know you understood it. And I know that you know that you haven't found such an example. All species are social at some level. No. Look up the meaning of the word social and you'll see that it applies only to a minority of species. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 08:07 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menThat is why property ownership and food production exists: survival and protection. It's not being responsible for men's safety. An example would be a "men and children first" policy implemented as a matter of course as the reverse was and sometimes still is. All biology has been adapted through socialization. How so? And evolution is undeniably social as much as it is physical. You can't have one without the other. You obviously can. Look at any species that isn't social. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 07:57 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menI have. Through property and food production. That's not women protecting men. Nobody disputes that women have owned things. I'm disputing that women have ever been held responsible for protecting men. It is because biology can't exist without socialization in humans. The level of departure from reality in that sentence is impressive. A fetus exists yet has not been socialized. Therefore biology can and does indeed exist without socialization. And giving birth isn't a norm. You just said "biolog… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 07:05 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menThere are examples, as I've shown. You've not shown examples of the provider/protector role being reversed. There pressures men feel are social in almost entirety. That may be but the cause for said pressures is not. Changing the norms is the thing to do, not pretending that the system we have now is natural because it isn't. Would you suggest "changing the norms" that women give birth? Why not? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 06:30 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menIt isn't consistent. There is variation. Not regarding the provider/protector role. By all means find examples if you disagree. And even if there want, it wouldn't follow that we shouldn't try to equalize something like the pay gap for both sexes. Correct. Though it also doesn't follow that we should. And making alterations based on false premises is likely to cause more problems than it will solve. In this case it is making things more unequal which I presume you don't want: If men work more an… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 06:02 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menNot true. Some of them are about land and resource use Regardless, they don't have the gender roles reversed such that women are responsible for protecting men. And there are many other examples. Not of this. But like the civilization point, you are just wrong. Social structures interact with biology all the way to the core. Neither has priority. I never said there was no societal influence. I'm saying that the gender role of provider/protector is very consistent across all societies and pretty … | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 05:53 PM |
| 2 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menRight, so the point about civilization made no sense. What exactly about it do you take issue with? Those examples are just matrilineal societies. None of them have the gender roles of provider/protector reversed such that women are responsible for men's safety or even just for providing resources for him. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 05:24 PM |
| 1 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than mengender relations predate civilization, whatever you mean by that. It's pretty clear. One sex having to give birth to offspring that requires years before it can survive independently, must necessarily requires the other sex to adapt to that circumstance. We are all ancestors of countless generations of women who selected partners who could provide for them. The argument about crossbreeding is a reductio, and wrong. It's not an argument. There are cultures where that was true, just not modern one… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 05:05 PM |
| 4 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menCitation needed! Seriously? You think women were just as likely to be gathering resources in a family back in days of hardship when giving birth was a serious risk? haha what are you talking about? Sexual dimorphism. For example why do you think men are bigger and stronger than women on average? That isn't socially constructed. And no, that isn't the only way to change norms. Sure you could impose oppressive rules of human crossbreeding too if you'd prefer that. And yes, there really is a huge a… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 03:38 PM |
| 5 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menPay gap implies different pay for the same work while earnings gap does not. For example, there's a legitimate earnings gap between doctors and janitors. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 03:29 PM |
| 4 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menHow do you figure that? Are you perhaps confusing pay gap with earnings gap? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 01:14 PM |
| 9 | New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than menI am saying that those features - that men are pressured to work and women to be flexible with the family - are in large ways socially constructed. They existed long before civilization. Changing these norms is tough The only way to change this would be for women to select for men who are more homemakers as opposed to breadwinners. but the fact that there is a huge amount of variation in the world tell us things can be done. There isn't really. In general, women only take more part in resource a… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/18 01:11 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?Seems you're right about him not replying. I really think it's important to push against the habitual reinventing of words. Too many people are willing to accept it and then find themselves unable to argue (you can't complain about sexism against men if it's defined as something that can't happen to men). Many will also try to appeal to authority by claiming academic feminists understand this better and one should defer to them. But the recent grievance studies hoax has exposed what I've been pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:27 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?masculinity doesn't refer to traits of men. It refers to traits that society regards as characteristics of men. Those aren't contradictory. Masculinity refers to societal standards that are being pushed upon men. No. As I said, your own links disagree with you. It's named after men because it's about societal standards that are being pushed upon men. Well if you really believe that, then don't you think a good first step would be to stop naming it after men? How would you specifically talk about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 10:46 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?Masculinity doesn't refer to traits of men. That's ridiculous. Even your own links contradict this. It refers to societal standards that are being pushed upon men. The term for that is "gender roles". No misunderstanding using that. So why not use it? But, with your redefinition of "masculinity", you've lost the original meaning. So that leaves the question: is, say, facial hair, masculine? Yes or no? Is having a deep voice masculine. What do you think people imagine when they say "masculine voi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 10:39 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?How is it victim blaming? Repeat: It makes no sense to call something that is done to a group as a trait of that group. We don't call the holocaust "toxic Judaism" either. Masculinity refers to societal standards that are being pushed upon men. No. This only makes sense if, like in that wikipedia link, it is described as a social construct (though the link is far from clear on that). But it isn't. That's easily proven. it's obviously blaming society for pushing toxic masculinity upon men. Sure. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 10:15 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?That's our question. I'm asking you. Feminists critizise that society describes those toxic traits as appropriate or expected of men. Is "toxic masculinity" a trait of men or is it not? If it's not, then it's not masculinity at all, toxic or otherwise. If it is, then it's not something that's "expected of men" unless it's only or almost only men doing the expecting and women are, if at all, only marginally engaged in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 10:03 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?If feminists are complaining about harmful gender norms that are being pushed upon men by society this includes women, simply because women are a part of society. But if you ever probe further, it will always lead to the claim that women are a passive part of society that doesn't influence these things in any way that might render them responsible for anything ever. It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman that says something like "Real Men should do X" Then why must it be described as a trait… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 08:41 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?Toxic masculinity refers to ways in which the patriarchy is harmful to men. It makes no sense to call something that is done to a group as a trait of that group. We don't call the holocaust "toxic Judaism" either. It's the worst kind of actual victim blaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 08:37 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why isn't toxic masculinity called internalized misandry? Why isn't internalized misogyny called toxic femininity?while his objectifying opinions on women were definitively misogyny What exactly are you talking about here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 08:34 PM |
| 1 | This woman on my 'friends' thinks my shared info from international men's day is a hate post about women.No worries. I understand the upset. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/18 05:46 PM |
| 5 | What is the Fundamental Difference between MRAs and MensLib?I could go into a lot of detail about the differences but the biggest that would probably concern you directly is that MRAs want the discussion even if it's not pretty. And when you're talking about serious issues, it's almost always not pretty. For example your criticism of MRAs, that is something we'd want to talk about. You might get some harsh disagreement but you will be able to say what you think. That is not something you can do at menslib. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/18 01:09 PM |
| 1 | This woman on my 'friends' thinks my shared info from international men's day is a hate post about women.I had to remove this because you didn't black out the names. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/18 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Chat with Pete Boghossian - On the Grievance Studies Project (THE SAAD TRUTH_788)This confirms everything we MRAs and I in particular, have been saying about gender studies for years. They are activists masquerading as academics. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/18 10:53 AM |
| 1 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayAnd it's really so important to me what you think because random passer-bys with zero contribution always have so much credibility. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/18 09:04 AM |
| 1 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayAaaaand he retreats faster than you can say Pufferfish the moment I put his claim to be the "bigger man MRA" to he test. Pathetic. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/18 09:47 AM |
| 1 | The Google Doodle for International Men's Daya trait propagated from both sides An inherent trait is not something that's "propagated". And if it's not an inherent trait, then it's not masculinity at all. Toxic or otherwise. And if it's something done by "both sides", then there's no reason to just name it after one. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 10:01 PM |
| 1 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayI and another user You didn't give me any. Why be so coy about that? The parts that are need to be changed. What makes you think you can only change the parts that you want to change? Men are not a muffin recipe. People are very complex and tweaking anything will have consequences far beyond what you set out to do. And what makes you think you know better how men should be than everyone else? MRAs will do that. The fact that you think this can even be done, let alone by a tiny group of activists… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 09:37 PM |
| 1 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayFunny that youre talking to me about putting words in people's mouth. It's a description of what you did and continue to do. And funny you ask me for examples when several were already given by 2 users. Are you unable to defend your own position? Get specific. What examples are you referring to? Masculinity as a concept is comprised of many things. Sure. And some are toxic, right? So which, in the aggregate, is more prevalent? Toxic masculinity or non-toxic masculinity? And how exactly do you kn… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 09:07 PM |
| 3 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayNo one said masculinity is toxic. Actually most of society thinks so, feminists in particular. There's a reason for that which has little to do with feminism actually but that's another subject. Just that some ideas about masculinity today are toxic. Is masculinity, on the whole - all pros and cons added up, toxic or not? You have plenty of examples above already for how some ideas about masculinity hurt men. Such as? And you are in for disapointment if you're putting all your chips in the baske… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 08:12 PM |
| 2 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayIt’s not about female behavior. But female behavior is exactly what you described. So toxic masculinity is caused by society. Not by women in particular, and not by men in particular. Then it's not a form of masculinity which defines traits typical of men. Same thing exists for women too. Clearly not or we'd be having discussions about toxic femininity in public discourse. For example society puts a lot of pressure on women to look good Everyone is pressured to look good. And it's not somebody d… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 08:06 PM |
| 3 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayToxic masculinity isn’t the fault of men, it’s caused by society as a whole. Why wouldn't you call antisemitism in the Waimar Republic "toxic Judaism" then? When girls mock or bully men for crying, it makes life harder for men because they’re a lot less likely to share their feelings. That is toxic masculinity. So female behavior is now a form of "masculinity" because it's toxic. Do you not see how fucked up that is? Would you call men raping women "toxic femininity"? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 07:32 PM |
| 3 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayThe idea is to change the idea of masculinity Why change masculinity if it's not toxic? to encompass men of all different types. Then it's not masculinity anymore. Like saying "anyone can be an attack helicopter renders the term meaningless. So that men who want to share feelings, dont work out everyday, have small penises, etc. Don't have to feel ashamed The quickest and most effective way of doing this is for women to choose those men over others. because that isn't and shouldn't be, what make… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 07:27 PM |
| 1 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayThere are currently socially accepted masculine traits that are toxic. Examples? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 07:19 PM |
| 7 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayThis would mean something if there was a clear way of describing which aspects of masculinity are "toxic" and which aren't. But feminists deliberately avoid that clarity precisely because of the ambiguity that would be lost. They want the sexist connotation in the term. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 07:19 PM |
| 2 | The Google Doodle for International Men's DayToxic masculinity is stuff like men not being able to It makes no sense to name something denied to a people as a trait of those people. Denying women the right to vote also wasn't called "toxic femininity". | /r/MensRights | 19/11/18 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyBy your definition the terms " we men" and " all men" are interchangeable. How so? | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyIt definitely at least means most. There's no reason to point to a group and make an observation about it if one doesn't mean to, you know, make an observation about that same group. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyIf that were true then "some men ..." and "we men ..." would be interchangeable but they aren't. "Some men are murderers" is true, "we men are murderers" is not (not speaking for Ohanian here given the statistics on male feminists). The problem is you're intentionally misunderstanding the usage of the pronoun "we" in conjunction with a noun to indicate a group such as a nationality or race (or, in this case, sex). Nobody interprets something like "we Irish people" to just mean a minority of Iris… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyBecause the headlines often do this ;) | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 11:08 AM |
| 5 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyAlso you should look up literally in the dictionary. Let me guess: you just did and were relieved to find a second definition that you think justifies you to claim you weren't literally meaning "literally" but actually the precise opposite, right? Thought so. Problem is, you have no clue and don't realize that, aside from the absurdity of claiming to not mean what you wrote while describing what somebody else didn't mean what they literally wrote, you forgot that you're describing actual written… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyNo I was talking about you. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 10:21 AM |
| 1 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyHe said "we men" which is clearly referring to the entire group. He didn't say "some of us men" or even "most". What do you think is more likely: that saying "we men" means "some men" or "most men"? | /r/MensRights | 18/11/18 10:21 AM |
| 7 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyIt's not a blanket statement, it literally just means some men. Do you even know what the word "literally" means? If he meant "some men", then he'd have said "some men". And then it would be true that he literally said it. Problem is you're full of shit and made it up. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/18 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyThat's your interpretation. He didn't say "some" men. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/18 08:16 PM |
| 7 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchySomebody seriously just attempted to support a claim based on the fact that many headlines are written that way. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/18 08:15 PM |
| 4 | Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian says men are unhealthy, insecure, and paralyzed by patriarchyThey didn't make a blanket statement. Saying "we men are..." as opposed to "all men are" is, at best, only allowing for exceptions. And that's the most generous way to interpret it. It's definitely still making a generalization that clearly implies that men are typically like that. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/18 08:13 PM |
| 4 | Funds for women-only professorships aim to end gender inequality | Irish TimesThey believe men are advantaged and by discriminating against them, it would "level the playing field". | /r/MensRights | 13/11/18 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Melania Trump says women 'need evidence' if they say they're victimsMy little sister came to me to tell me about... It's one thing to believe somebody you know and trust. It's a whole other story to have to believe a complete stranger. He has no evidence, but I believe him....A lot of guys... They're telling us to just believe women. Not men. why she would want to show loyalty and support to him Interesting. And what if, say, your little sister was accused of rape? Who would you believe, her or the accuser? | /r/MensRights | 13/11/18 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Melania Trump says women 'need evidence' if they say they're victimsThe claim is a punishment. And by no means a light one either. | /r/MensRights | 13/11/18 06:35 AM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingYes, I do. Well then the grievance studies hoax shows that you're wrong. If you can't argue without comparing things to Hitler It's not me comparing them. And it's only one of many examples. Take a look at the hoax. It exposed what I have been saying for years about academic feminists. So you don't see how the privileges of the 'top' are different than the privileges men have over women? On the contrary, I'm saying that the privilege of those at the top is not representative. That's my contentio… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/18 12:29 PM |
| 1 | No, no! Men are evil! I swear!Well yes but whenever one tries to just focus on men's issues, feminists will show up to try and stop you. So, clearly we have to expose them for the fanatics they are before we can get to work. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/18 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Men are afraid to revive women because of the epidemic of false sexual assault accusationsConsider that the person in peril might not be subscribing to that belief belief system. It's not a "they did this to themselves" situation. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/18 08:57 PM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingWhat was the claim that I 'wrongly' identified as a straw man? The first one you claimed was a straw man. I assume posting the link to what an article an a straw man was such a claim, right? Didn't take long for Hitler reference. It's not a reference. What I said was an observation of feminist academics not knowing their own beliefs from Hitler's rhetoric. Do you dispute that? Who cares about the top? Fine. All the better. Let's ignore the top elite of society. Now try making your case for men h… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingAgain, half of straw man. Define "half of a straw man". You believe feminists equate all of masculinity with toxic masculinity, Yes but that was not the claim I made above that you wrongly identified as a straw man. Keep in mind we're talking about an ideology whose elite academics can't even tell the difference between feminist publications and Hitler's rhetoric. That says it all really. That's not association fallacy. That depends on whether you want to make your case using "this sub" as an ar… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/18 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Study topics for those educating themselves on MensRightsWell he isn't trolling on this subreddit so far as I can tell and I'm not going to punish behavior on other subreddits. I suggest you message the mods of the subreddits where he's doing this if you haven't already. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/18 01:08 PM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingYou are claiming that feminists equate all of masculinity with toxic masculinity. No. While I also happen to believe that, it is not what I wrote above. I wrote that feminists would disagree with your claim that this example is just masculinity and not "toxic masculinity". Ironically it is therefore you who is doing the straw man which, common to feminists, also makes you a hypocrite. Granted you didn't ......but this entire sub is.... NPC group think in action. It's also a fallacy of its own - … | /r/MensRights | 10/11/18 04:53 PM |
| 0 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Yup. Make accusations of misogyny, claim to have proof and when asked to provide it, run away. And people are surprised the NPC meme sticks so well. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/18 07:13 AM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingYou should read and understand your own link before you paste it. A straw man requires me to have misrepresented you in some way. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/18 07:09 AM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingHow does that answer my question? | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 02:10 PM |
| 2 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingWhy? And how? I mean it's not clear to me why one would teach, say, a girl that she should aim for dangerous work. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 01:13 PM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingThat isn't 'toxic' masculinity Feminists would disagree with you on that. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 01:10 PM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingThat's the big question and everyone is afraid to even contemplate the answer. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 01:04 PM |
| 1 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingIt might also be that they were just less afraid of being dying than of being shamed for not dying. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 01:01 PM |
| 3 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingIt's not though. I'm undecided either way on this but I'm interested in examples of such behavior from women. Do you know of any? | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 01:00 PM |
| 3 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingYeah that sounds like a great deal. Men give their lives for women and women reward them by not telling men how evil they are. Lucky men. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 12:54 PM |
| 2 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingOk. Let's discuss it now. What's your opinion on this? | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 12:46 PM |
| 9 | The other side of 'toxic masculinity' in California shootingLol no. menslib has but one simple explanation for it: "society is teaching men to think they're worth less". And "society", to them, is another word for "patriarchy" which is why they never conclude anything other than that men should stop making themselves bad. But that's what one should expect from an ideology that can't tell it's ideas from Hitler's rhetoric. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/18 12:46 PM |
| 1 | We need to make it clear that the Tallahassee yoga shooter was NOT an MRA, and that his beliefs are NOT in line with ours.I might be involuntarily detained by police, but that doesn't mean I didn't try NOT to be detained by the police, for example. Exactly. You will have tried but failed to avoid it. Therefore it is involuntary. Money, food, etc are all traded willingly. But you can't force someone to sell food to you, for example, or give you money. Most countries have welfare programs which are effectively forcing everyone to participate in ensuring that people don't have to do without basic needs and/or the mone… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/18 11:04 PM |
| 2 | We need to make it clear that the Tallahassee yoga shooter was NOT an MRA, and that his beliefs are NOT in line with ours.I never claimed or implied that it was lack of trying. I am sure the people are trying. It is lack of success that is the issue. Ok so would you not call that an outcome that is correctly described as "involuntary"? I am not sure of any other desire that requires another person to solve it. I'm having a hard time thinking of one that does not. Money? You can't grow it. Food? Well you can grow that but most people wouldn't survive if they had to. Health? That's the best stand-alone candidate but … | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 10:02 PM |
| 2 | We need to make it clear that the Tallahassee yoga shooter was NOT an MRA, and that his beliefs are NOT in line with ours.Incel ideology: men who do not achieve the companionship they desire are involuntarily celibate, and this is a problem that should be resolved by society. You know, there is a spectrum of possible reactions between "society must fix it" and "fuck those losers" (and frankly, I see lot more people uttering the latter than I see incels uttering the former). How about we start with just acknowledging that there is a problem and that maybe it's not all just for lack of trying? And the crazy thing is,… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 08:50 PM |
| 2 | We need to make it clear that the Tallahassee yoga shooter was NOT an MRA, and that his beliefs are NOT in line with ours.When we take the insane jet fuelled over the top emotions out of the equation, and just act like calm rational humans, there is absolutely NO justification for attacking the incels. Exactly. And I know some pathetic morons searching my comment history for proof of whatever, will try to use this to say I condone assault or murder. No. When a dog kills a human, we don't attack all dogs either. In fact we typically assume the dog was mistreated. Turns out we treat dogs better than incels. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 08:21 PM |
| 2 | We need to make it clear that the Tallahassee yoga shooter was NOT an MRA, and that his beliefs are NOT in line with ours.Honestly, from what little I've seen of the incel community, it genuinely does appear that sex isn't their main issue. The problem is being unwanted and therefore socially low in status. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 08:16 PM |
| 0 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!You're in an anti-women subreddit. This is reddit You must be mistaking me with somebody else. Those aren't my words you're quoting. All I have to do is go back through your comment history. So I don't think you stand anywhere. I know where you stand. Given the above, that seems unlikely. /r/mensrights isn't about hating women, it's about promoting men's rights. You clearly never saw the memo. Probably because you were too busy being a misogynist. This doesn't even make sense. You think I'm a mi… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 12:43 PM |
| 0 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Aha. And where is it you think I stand? | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 09:20 AM |
| 0 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Probably because such complaints are always uninformed, biased and made by people who contribute zero posts themselves. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 07:16 AM |
| 3 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Do you think it should be changed? Is it even possible to change that? At least part of that instinctive reaction is physiological. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/18 07:04 AM |
| -10 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Because both men and women are biased towards women. It's well documented and widespread. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/18 09:46 PM |
| 2 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!This dictionary issue is actually quite a problem. Dictionaries determine the meanings of words by their usage, in particular, by academics in the field. Problem is, as we saw with the grievance studies affair, feminist "academics" are about as reliable as Scientology academics. But lexicographers don't know that. So they lend the gender studies experts as much credibility as they do, say, art history experts. In other words, the supposed meaning of the word "feminism" is essentially determined … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/18 08:45 PM |
| 2 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Seriously? Do you think it only means equality in the strictest sense and nothing else? Btw. the dictionary is not a source on this. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/18 08:41 PM |
| 2 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!you're in an anti-women subreddit. Can we play this game too? Anyone against men's rights is anti-male? | /r/MensRights | 06/11/18 08:38 PM |
| 5 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!The following is a comment by Karen Straughan in response to a feminist who thinks the many blatant sexists among feminists aren't real feminists: So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/18 08:32 PM |
| 1 | r/MensRights currently has more subs than r/Feminism!Actually, for a short period of time we were also a default subreddit. That gave us a big boost in subscribers until they changed the rules. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Trash trash trash.....imagine if the roles were reversed.This is irrelevant. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/18 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Which one is generally easier: To be a man or to be a woman?But that problem is easy to solve should your want to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 05:38 PM |
| 0 | As a man, thank you.And people seem to forget that she could also kill/abuse him. Only he can also be blamed/arrested/convicted or just attacked by her friends afterwards. Male privilege you see. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/18 09:12 AM |
| 0 | As a man, thank you.The false assumption there is that good relationships come from dating. I mean, dating is the absolute epitome of sexist double standards. Desperate men grovelling at the feet of entitled princesses. It's a dreadful way to start a relationship. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/18 09:10 AM |
| 1 | As a man, thank you.The false assumption there is that good relationships come from dating. I mean, dating is the absolute epitome of sexist double standards. Desperate men grovelling at the feet of entitled princesses. It's a dreadful way to start a relationship. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/18 09:09 AM |
| 4 | As a man, thank you.Ah so you're also screwed. Just not literally. Not a coincidence. If that's any consolation. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 09:59 PM |
| 6 | As a man, thank you.Well it's not like there's much choice really. You're paying anyway. Whether it's 80 bucks plus a cab fare or your life savings, your house, your children, reputation and self-respect. Either way there's a cost. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 09:47 PM |
| 1 | As a man, thank you.Aha. Do go on.. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 09:20 PM |
| 0 | As a man, thank you.How the fuck does calling out male hate mongers for damaging the movement the same way that female hate mongers have done for feminism equate to a misunderstanding of the entire gender discussion? Given your infantile raging reaction, it's unlikely you have the capacity or the will to understand this. And I don't have the patience to explain it. If that upsets you, then feel free to rage some more in your next comment. Hope it makes you feel better. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 09:05 PM |
| 1 | As a man, thank you.How the fuck does calling out male hate mongers for damaging the movement the same way that female hate mongers have done for feminism equate to a misunderstanding of the entire gender discussion? Given your infantile raging reaction, it's unlikely you have the capacity or the will to understand this. And I don't have the patience to explain it. If that upsets you, then feel free to rage some more in your next comment. Hope it makes you feel better. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 09:05 PM |
| 16 | As a man, thank you.My "attitude" is that I call out bullshit. You uttered something proven false in the very place it's voiced. Hence I point it out. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:48 PM |
| 8 | As a man, thank you.No and no. But I'll give you a hint so you know where to start informing yourself: The phrase "it seems like we're doomed to make the same mistake as the feminists did" means you have completely misunderstood the entire gender discussion on the most basic level. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:45 PM |
| 7 | As a man, thank you.You have no idea what you're talking about. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:38 PM |
| 15 | As a man, thank you.The difference is that, when a man turns out to be bad (or even when not), society will come down hard on him. Not so for a woman. In fact they'll blame him for her wrongdoing. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:38 PM |
| 9 | As a man, thank you.Why should a man date? | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:32 PM |
| 15 | As a man, thank you.Then buy it | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:26 PM |
| 25 | As a man, thank you.there isn't a male and female role any more. Said under the very post that proves the opposite. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/18 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: "Men Are Not Broken"The living standard of women is higher than that of men. The statistics are crystal clear on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Double standardsYou write an interesting comment but I have to reject the description of women as "parasites". It paints men as helpless victims of women's behavior. But that behavior is only possible because so many men endorse and even encourage it. This isn't one sex "feeding off" another. It's both sexes perpetuating a narrative they clearly both like. I'll grant you that women benefit more from it than men and that women are in a better position to change it should they ever want to. But an individual man … | /r/MensRights | 28/10/18 12:46 PM |
| – | Double standardsThis a low-effort post but I'll leave it up because an interesting discussion started in the comments. | /r/MensRights | 28/10/18 12:37 PM |
| 2 | Woman accused of making false rape claims against Bristol police officer to undergo competency evaluationNo no. Tax payer funded lake-side retreat with aroma therapy baths and healing crystal infused mu-choi algae soy caramel breast milk soufflé. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 10:53 PM |
| 3 | Woman accused of making false rape claims against Bristol police officer to undergo competency evaluationNPC | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Research into hypergamy doesn’t replicate. Original researcher declares his own theory is probably not true and that the studies based on his theory are now garbage.Lol you mean the "actual academics" who couldn't tell a gender studies publication from an excerpt of Mein Kampf? I'll take "bitter men on the internet" over those fanatic lunatics any time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/18 10:38 PM |
| 1 | 50 Cent, right on spot about the Me Too movementwhich doesn't prove anything Not if enough people do it. I remember when Laci Green said they were rare and (paraphrasing) "why would a rape victim do that?", large numbers of "Laci Green raped me" appeared in the comments and all over the internet. It was practically a meme at one point. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 04:58 AM |
| 6 | 50 Cent, right on spot about the Me Too movementSo instead of challenging bigotry, you just try to out-bigot them and hope that power determines who's right by running to some authority to turn the entire world into your personal echo chamber. What could possibly go wrong with that plan ;) | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Banned from r/CanadaWho's inviting who to brigade? It's in the post text at the bottom. That can be seen as an invitation and it can get us into trouble with the admins. We have to be cautious about that. The rate that /r/Canada is going, it should get brigaded. That's not how you go about this. All it will do is give people another reason to close this sub down. One more time: Brigading is against site-wide rules! It needs to be talked about. This is not the place to do that. If things are the way you describe, se… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/18 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Banned from r/CanadaYou're welcome to make a post about general censorship of men's rights but this post is only you talking about your own banning which is a different thing altogether. Also, you're inviting people to brigade which is against site-wide rules. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/18 09:04 PM |
| 2 | Banned from r/CanadaSorry but posts about bannings aren't allowed here as it's too common. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/18 07:25 PM |
| 40 | UK: Female student rep at Southampton University sparks fury after vowing to tear down 'mural of white men' honouring those who left university to fight in WWI but never returned, they died fighting for Britain.Notably feminists took part in this. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/18 08:30 PM |
| 13 | UK: Female student rep at Southampton University sparks fury after vowing to tear down 'mural of white men' honouring those who left university to fight in WWI but never returned, they died fighting for Britain.Come on don't be so melodramatic. Sometimes they didn't lose their lives but just a few limbs or their face. Nothing compared with housework. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.Well, in the past, the solution was relatively strict monogamy. I'm not a fan of it but I know of no alternative. Of course we could also try holding women accountable for their choices but it seems like we'll sooner cure aging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 07:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.It's not a solution for dating at all. Not for men anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 06:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.That's fine but unfortunately it doesn't change the number of failures. It's great for individual men who get that help. But they rising into the subset of winners, doesn't create more winners overall. They're just replacing others who were there before. That's not to say that the net result for society is zero. There is greater productivity as a result of the work you do. But the only way to make more people win a race is to hand out more prizes, not to teach some of them how to be faster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 03:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.Nobody is forcing you to live like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 12:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.Sure. The many men failing is not your concern. Well actually I think it's all of our concern but never mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 12:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.You tell me. I responded to this comment of yours: You just build yourself into a man that a woman who has high standards for a partner that she also holds herself to would actually want to be with. They'll find you. Trust me when I say there aren't a lot of men who fit that description. asking you what the percentage of men is that fits that description. You didn't answer and now you're asking me for specifics? I presume you knew what you were saying when you were saying it, right? Then just fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 09:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.Perhaps I wasn't making myself clear. So, in more general terms: The problem is that 1) only a certain percentage of men succeed and 2) Teaching men how to be among that segment may work for individual men but it does not alter the ratio of those who succeed. In other words, no matter how much better men get, even if every single man on the planet becomes 1000 times the man he was yesterday, it's still only the top X% who succeed. The bottom line is, if 95% of men fail, that is a problem and tel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 09:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.TRP lesson is that its on the guy to remain her best option -- if he doesn't he's basically precipitated his own downfall. Why would anyone want such a life - where you are on permanent trial 24/7 to prove yourself worthy of your partner? Hell you'd eventually lose by default from the sheer stress, slowly killing you over the years while she gets to lean back and judge and compare. #NoThanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 09:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP should re-brand itself to focus on finding women who Aren't Like That.They'll find you. Trust me when I say there aren't a lot of men who fit that description. How many? 5%? Ok. So the other 95% should "just build themselves" into men who are among the top 5%. Great. Then everyone is in the top 5%. Why didn't I think of this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 08:58 PM |
| 1 | The moment in black civil rights that Doctor Who should really have visited. Not the woman who sat on the bus, but the boy beaten until his own mother couldn't recognize him.This is not relevant to men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/18 05:10 PM |
| 31 | india: girl in Jail for false rape chargeYou are in the wrong place. Troll elsewhere. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/18 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Meet HitlerSo let's follow this through. Presumably all people have a number of good and bad deeds in their lives. How do you evaluate if somebody is a good person? It can't be that they did no bad deeds because nobody would qualify. So what about good deeds? Apparently they don't cancel out the bad deeds. So all we really have is to compare the number of and severity of good with bad deeds. Now what do we know about this person and what does it leave us to conclude about their probably "goodness"? | /r/MensRights | 21/10/18 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Meet HitlerYou beat me to it. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/18 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Meet HitlerThat doesn't make this woman a feminist. Correct! That means we'd be judging a full ideology by one anecdotal example of a person. That would be wrong. By itself. But happens to be accidentally right since the ideology is is fundamentally sexist and while this may or may not be one random feminist, there's no shortage of representative feminists who hold similarly hypocritical/sexist views. The same way a single racist/sexist/homophobic MRA commenter gets treated by outsiders like the purest voi… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/18 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Lioness Kills Long-Time Mate At Indianapolis ZooThis is not men's rights material. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/18 02:45 PM |
| 5 | A successful false rape accusation is the female equivalent of a man who locks a woman in his basement for ten years; we rightly regard the first with unabashed horror, but treat the second like a kid stealing a candy bar.3. With a false accusation, rehabilitation in society depends entirely on others. There's no amount of healing you can do to get your life back. But after being victimized of assault or kidnapping, it is entirely in your control to overcome the damage it has done. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/18 10:06 PM |
| 2 | Terror On The Train | Woman makes a false accusation against a man despite knowing he'd videoed the entire event. Railway staff stop the train to force him off despite a dozen witnesses confirming the accusation was false.Islam exists. Men will solve the problem if women don't. I can only repeat what I wrote: men can can solve many problems but their own disposability is something they can never solve. We cannot maintain a society where one sex has more rights but less responsibilities than the other. What, in purely pragmatic terms, speaks against it? | /r/MensRights | 16/10/18 07:47 PM |
| 26 | Terror On The Train | Woman makes a false accusation against a man despite knowing he'd videoed the entire event. Railway staff stop the train to force him off despite a dozen witnesses confirming the accusation was false.But it doesn't figure into feminism: I'm afraid it's even deeper than that: The empathy gap doesn't just not figure into feminism. Feminism is the empathy gap expressed in the form of activism. If women don't solve this problem, men will. Women won't solve this problem because they don't have to. And men, they can and have solved a great many problems. But their own disposability is something they can never solve. Individual men can partially reduce their own disposability but only by increasing… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/18 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Woman stabs boyfriend, write sympathetic article. And include domestic violence advice directed at women.I'd love that to be the case but I'm certain things will get worse before they get better. That's the general climate of partisanship. As for men's rights, without some major paradigm shift, I'm not sure that will ever be viable for mainstream discourse. But perhaps the internet was such a paradigm shift. Maybe MBC will be another. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/18 06:34 PM |
| 5 | Woman stabs boyfriend, write sympathetic article. And include domestic violence advice directed at women.That would be political suicide. They'd be mocked and attacked at the same time. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/18 07:05 PM |
| 6 | Women were never dehumanized: A brief explanation of history and the progression of feminismThe real issue i feel is for some reason all the media you can find, almost 90% of it supports this for some reason This is because the media, unlike what many seem to believe, are not tasked with informing their audience. Their job is to entertain them - preferably but not necessarily using real world facts. That's a huge conflict of interest which is the reason for the unreliability or even blatant dishonesty you've observed. There's no easy way around this either - nut until somebody can come… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/18 05:29 AM |
| 11 | Women were never dehumanized: A brief explanation of history and the progression of feminismNo. Saying "2+2=4" does not become less true after you've tried to make the person saying it look bad. Likewise you can't refute OP's arguments by "highlighting" what else is or isn't in their account history. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/18 05:25 AM |
| 1 | A Scary Time for Boys -- A political voice to Americans !!! Watch now !!!Are you not aware that men are significantly more at risk of of assault and, in general, the living standard of women is significantly higher? Yes, and it is just as terrible,but when was the last time a female abuser was given a pass because it would ruin her sports career... You're right. Females don't need to be high achievers to get a pass. They get a pass just for being female. Do you not see how sinister it is for you to point out how much better off your son is and all you can do to justi… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/18 09:10 PM |
| 6 | A Scary Time for Boys -- A political voice to Americans !!! Watch now !!!I have both a son and a daughter and I am actually more worried about my daughter actually being sexually assaulted than I am of my son being falsely accused That's what we call the "empathy gap". It's why, if it were the other way round, you'd still be more worried for your daughter. It's not their respective circumstances, but their gender that's making you feel that way. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/18 06:04 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?Regardless of whether you agree or not, I put the following together for my own sake to have something to reference. Turns out early feminists were worse even than I realized: In the Declaration of Sentiments in 1848 – essentially feminism's opening salvo at the patriarchy, in the opening paragraphs, the following is said about men: The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute ty… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/18 04:48 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?You're a feminist if and when you advocate for women's rights. It's a description of an action. No. Feminism is not a verb. You don't "feminist". Though in your particular case I think we've found an exception :D Problem is you're trying to confuse feminism with women's rights activism. They're not the same thing. That's why you're failing when equating them. There's an easy way to establish the difference: women's rights refers to 1) women and 2) rights. Feminism is not confined to those things… | /r/MensRights | 11/10/18 02:03 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?Fuck you, you piece of shit. You're a fucking hypocrite Calm down sweetie ;) MRA is not a descriptive label any more so than feminism is. It is. You're a men's rights advocate if and when you advocate for men's rights. It's a description of an action. Feminism is not. stop equating 2018 concepts of equality with a late 1800's conception of what that means. Lol. Either equality means equal or it doesn't. Make your choice. Again, you can't prove something doesn't exist. Yet you expect me to do tha… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/18 08:46 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?You're being disingenuous bro. Feminism is not just a "descriptive label." That's what I'm saying you imbecile. Feminism is a name. It's MRA that's the descriptive label. Hence they're different. For the 3rd time now. Try to keep up. So you don't believe that demanding equal rights without also demanding equal responsibilities is precisely not demanding equality? no Then we're talking about two entirely different "kinds" of equality. Mine is the literal kind, while yours is apparently the popula… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/18 07:02 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?Whether or not they are counterparts was not the foundation of your original argument. Correct. It's the foundation for your argument when trying to apply the "same" logic to MRAs about the gendered title. You're argument was that because of the name being rooted in the feminine, it inherently attracts sexists. If this is true for feminism, then it must be true for men's rights. The missing premise here is that they are otherwise equal. Hence why this argument requires that as a "foundation". Pr… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/18 08:07 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?So is men's rights inevitably and inherently sexist? No. They're not equal and opposite counterparts. Not even close. By your very own logic this sub and men's spaces in general that label themselves as such can't ever not have a significant sexist leaning. Again, no. You're projecting the lack of nuance in your thinking onto me. Do you understand the difference between a descriptive label and a name? MRA is what you are if you advocate for men's rights, regardless of whether you call yourself t… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/18 08:37 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?You're argument was literally, "but the name attracts sexists" That is one of the things I said but it stands alone too: Because of the name, feminism is inevitably and inherently sexist. Feminism can't ever not have a significant sexist leaning for that reason. Names are very important. There's a reason why brand names matter so much. People care about what something is called. Especially feminists care because they, the movement that has such a problem with gendered terms, named everything bad… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/18 05:03 PM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?Sure you can stick your fingers in your ears and sing lalala in the face of arguments that might give you reason to revise your world view. Why anyone would be so invested in a narrative is beyond me but it's your choice. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/18 04:59 AM |
| 1 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?I don't buy the argument about the name being reason it's not about equality. Then ask yourself this: Supposing there's somebody who hates men and wants to get politically active accordingly. They look at all the kinds of movements and find one called "feminism". Before knowing anything else about it, that will be the obvious place for them to go. Now you might say, not all feminists hate men and that is true. But... pretty much all people who hate men are going to be feminists. The point is, no… | /r/MensRights | 07/10/18 10:00 PM |
| 2 | I want equal rights, what do I call myself?That's like saying the kkk is your goto place for fighting racism. No thanks. Men are people too and it's time you realized it. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/18 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Not political at all (I am not American and do not live in the US) but do you realize how IMPORTANT for men this nomination is? Kavanaugh sworn in as Supreme Court justice. Hopefully he will change the gender power balance in the US system and society.I don't see how anyone could deny this. I do. How often do high status women get brought down by some man with nothing other than a vague accusation? This is a power women have that men do not. The confirmation of Kavanaugh is itself even more evidence. Evidence of what? That even men sometimes get presumption of innocence? What's wrong with that? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/18 09:43 PM |
| 2 | "Feminism isn't about hating men, it's just about equal rights"they were originally a respectful group of women seeking for equality Omg no. The first wavers were every bit as bad if not worse. Even in the 19th century they used the same kind of vilifying rhetoric that ethnic cleansers use. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/18 12:10 PM |
| 4 | "Feminism isn't about hating men, it's just about equal rights"Ask a woman if they still feel like they're treated equally as men. An individual woman's subjective feelings don't determine reality. The statistics show a clear pattern that, all things considered, women have a significantly higher living standard than men throughout the western world. Women are pressured to do so many things that men never have to think about. And you presume there's nothing that men are pressured to do that women never have to think about? Have to wear a dress and high heels… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/18 12:09 PM |
| 1 | TIL that according to academic literature, false allegations of rape, while relatively rare, are at least five times as common as false accusations of other types of crimeWhich, in the grand scheme of things, is incredibly unlikely. Ok. So we play Russian roulette not with a 6 shooter but with, say, a 100 shooter. Make that 500. It's still a bad idea to play Russian roulette. Don't let this boogeyman scare you away from living your life. Fair enough. But consider this: if the risk was with women, not men, do you think they'd take it? Unlikely. That's all anyone should take away from this. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/18 07:54 PM |
| 6 | Solidarity Feminism: pranksters rewrote Mein Kampf to use intersectional language and submitted it to a feminist journal. It was accepted and published.Your argument against male dominance is that homeless men exist? It refutes your claim that "men control everything". Clearly many men don't control everything. All people have been slowly fighting against white male bigots for hundreds of years Lol. You realize that "all people" includes those "white male bigots". Curious: What exactly have men done that's so bad in this period of history you reckon they were controlling everything? I mean compare today's life with that of 2000 years ago and te… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/18 06:34 PM |
| 7 | Solidarity Feminism: pranksters rewrote Mein Kampf to use intersectional language and submitted it to a feminist journal. It was accepted and published.It's just that when those who control everything Sure. Homeless men control everything. It's this kind of fanatic clinging to a delusion of male supremacy that caused things to get to the point that this whole thing was even possible. And the feminist reaction? Do more of the same thing. Good luck with that;) | /r/MensRights | 03/10/18 05:17 PM |
| 10 | Solidarity Feminism: pranksters rewrote Mein Kampf to use intersectional language and submitted it to a feminist journal. It was accepted and published.I've been doing the same thing on a smaller scale for years. I've been waiting for somebody to do this properly so I'm not surprised of the result in the least. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.What in the blazers are you talking about? Maybe you meant to send this to someone else? | /r/MensRights | 29/09/18 09:35 AM |
| 14 | This is one of the dumbest most naive pieces of ideology and projection I have ever heard.They have it backwards. Feminists' think the patriarchy is ruthlessly oppressing women because that's what they would do. They can't imagine what it's like on the other side because there are two main categories of feminists: 1) women who can't imagine jumping over themselves to stand up for men the way men do for women and 2) men who jump over themselves to help women and signal that by being feminists. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/18 05:06 AM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.God that's bad. So even the WHO is infested with feminist dogma now. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/18 02:00 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.I'm sure there is mention of this in publicly available sources. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/18 09:07 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.and you're right men are considered expendable... totally agree there, and it's the toxic part of masculinity..... see how that works? Men being more expendable is purely down to the fact that it takes fewer of them to maintain or grow a population. This has nothing to do with some imaginary term concocted by ideologues who pose as academics. See you see things as pushed by feminists I don't. Feminists are not as revolutionary as they like to think. They are just a modern expression of tradition… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/18 08:44 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.What losses? And, I'm not sure I agree that u/pepsi_onion is trolling. Perhaps a little but the main purpose of this attempt to make the discussion about my character is to deflect from the arguments. It's pretty obvious to anyone who reads the exchange and the more it draws on, the more obvious it gets. Also, this costs me very little time. I can type very fast. It's also not exhausting for me as it typically is for feminists. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/18 01:30 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Why does the military draft only apply to men? Two reasons: 1) Men are more suited for combat and 2) They are more expendable to a society. Why are men under reported as victims of domestic abuse? That ties in with the above with the added push by feminists to undermine and silence the discussion of male victims. Why are men often at a disadvantage in custody hearings? Feminists introduced this. Before, men got default custody - you know, during those evil patriarchal times. Now, ironically, fem… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/18 01:24 PM |
| 6 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Thanks for the response. Toxic masculinity refers to the way a person (of either gender) punishes a male who doesn't embody the performative aspects of traditional masculinity. It is not about how masculine you are, it's about how you treat men who are not masculine. This is describing an action done to men. Men are the object, not the subject. As such it's absurd to describe it as a type of masculinity. In general, we don't describe something done to a people as a feature of said people. 2) I r… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:03 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.I agree. I wasn't the one who called them that. But there's a huge elephant in their room. My problem isn't so much that they're soft on feminism. It's that they absolutely refuse to hold women accountable for any of the issues they see. And as such they're perpetuating gender stereotypes of helpless women. As such they will accomplish exactly nothing at best. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:49 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Specifically what brought you to that conclusion? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:36 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Do you disagree? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:30 PM |
| 7 | 'She battered me over letting the cat in' - Man, 78, leaves his wife after 60 years of domestic violenceStop trolling. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:28 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.to compare using the words "toxic masculinity" to genocidal tendencies I did no such thing. I said "I recognize the rhetoric as it resembles that of ethnic cleansers." And it's not the first time. Feminists have a long history of using such rhetoric dating back to the mid 19th century. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:18 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.This isn't about me. Try to stick to the topic and resist the temptation of vilifying what you must perceive to be an adversary of sorts. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:11 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.With what? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:06 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Not at all. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Also,I'm mocking you basing your argument on your feelings. Not your feelings themselves But I haven't based any argument on my feelings. Where is it you think I did that? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 08:00 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.So you claim to understand that toxic masculinity does not refer to masculinity as a whole I made no such claim. You must be mistaking me with somebody else. you hate the word anyway and it somehow not based on your feelings? I don't hate it. I recognize the rhetoric as it resembles that of ethnic cleansers. As do the excuses to use it. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:59 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.I'm not policing your speech at all. You can say whatever you want. Just don't expect me to believe that you aren't spreading misandry on purpose. Also I never mentioned my feelings. They don't matter. You brought them up, only to mock them and now pretend that's my motivation. Could you be any more disingenuous? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:55 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.So it's a power struggle after all. Ironically, the only strength you rely on is what you would call toxic masculinity itself. Because if people cared about men remotely as much as they do about women, they'd never accept your sexist terminology. you're hurt Fifi's. Supposing I'm indeed hurt, why would you mock that? Isn't one of the tenets of TM that men shouldn't be shamed for having feelings? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:49 PM |
| 9 | r/BPT weighs in on double standards and treating people rightNo, you can be racist toward a white person, it just doesn't fucking matter. So you don't have a problem with racism in principle as long as the right ethnicity is the target. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:40 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.I'm not holding onto anything Prove it. Substitute TM for something else. The only thing TM has that alternatives don't is the misandric connotation so if you insist nonetheless on using it over the alternatives, I'm going to take that to mean that you want the misandric understanding of it to remain. I'm here to correct a faulty idea or what the words portray. Why? If so many people misunderstand a term that isn't in wider usage anyway, then that alone is good enough reason to abandon it. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:37 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Ok so let's solve it. Use a better term. It's not like there aren't any. Why hold onto this? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:28 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Same problem. It's a masculine trait to be protective of women. So being violent against women isn't a specific type of masculinity, it's a deviation from it. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:20 PM |
| 6 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.The adjective defense is irrelevant unless the subset you're talking about is a proper subset. 2) is getting at exactly that. It's challenging you to demonstrate that toxic masculinity is a proper subset of masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 07:18 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise."Toxic masculinity" refers to the negative aspects of it all, like violence against women. Violence against women is not a masculine trait in the least. Both men and women do significantly more violence to men than to women. A masculine trait is to be protective of women. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 05:27 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.What on Earth makes you think Men's Lib is a toxic hate sub? Sure, they're far too soft on feminism but they recognize many of the gender struggles men face without overtly perpetuating hatred. I recently wrote a post showing just one of countless examples of how menslib deals with men's issues. Since then their post has even more comments - now women applauding that men there are "defending women". Downplaying mens issues apparently is taken as defending women now. The lack of empathy and blata… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 05:22 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.The words I chose were essentially arbitrary. I'm not married to the words here, so I'm not going to argue semantics. You realize that the entire discussion is about semantics, right? Because males exhibit masculinity. I'm not sure I completely understand your comment. Do you understand the difference between an inherent trait and something externally done to a people? Take this for example: Mosquitoes bite humans. It would be absurd to call mosquito bites a human characteristic though and call … | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 04:57 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.No it's real. Feminism is the most sexist movement of all. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 04:49 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Why not just use "excess" instead? It's not gendered and doesn't have misandric connotations. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 04:47 PM |
| 5 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise."Toxic masculinity is a narrow and repressive description of manhood, ... It doesn't make sense to name a faulty description of a people as if it were a trait of said people. Like it wouldn't make sense to call the narrow an repressive descriptions of womanhood of the 19th century "toxic femininity". This definition is use in a very specific subset of males, those who define being a man as having these particular traits... Plenty of women use it too. What you're describing is far better called "… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 02:56 PM |
| 6 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.So something like "freeing masculinity" and "toxic masculinity" would be on different ends of some scale. Why do you choose such different words to describe an opposite extreme? I mean the opposite of freeing is something like "imprisoning", right? Telling boys to "grow up", "man up" But how is this a trait of masculinity given that your only description is that it's done to boys/men - i.e. men are the object of that action, not the subject. I guess I covered this with the first point. I believe… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 02:49 PM |
| 6 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.So you’re upset about how you’re the target when as a sex we’ve had control since... humanity was “born?” Try to not reduce everything to men vs women. Just because a tiny minority of men have had a disproportionate amount of power does not mean this was true for all or even most men. Also, this is not about me. It's interesting how feminists so often assume that anyone raising an issue must be doing so purely out of immediate self-interest. Toxic blackness is intertwined with toxic masculinity,… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 02:41 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Well by all means show me the examples and/or quote them yourself and we'll see if they hold up. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 01:08 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Can I just say that your comments are quite brilliant. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:55 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.It is not the simple act of being a man, or aggressive, or even violent. It is the mis-aimed used of such attributes. Anything mis-aimed or taken too far becomes toxic. There's not reason to have a special word just for men and nobody else. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:49 PM |
| 1 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Okay, here's the difference.... ...things like propensity towards aggression are socially, and biologically linked to masculinity and testosterone. This is admitting that it is indeed about masculinity in general and not just a deviation or even a subset. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:45 PM |
| 6 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.The phrase "toxic masculinity" was not made as a weapon. It was made as a tool to discuss men's issues, and it remains like that to this day. That's an interesting claim. Looking at this thread and similar ones elsewhere, I'd say it tends to shut down discussion of men's issues. Would you not at least concede that it keeps getting stuck on the sexist connotation in using such a gendered term? I am complaining because MRAs complaining about feminists denying men's issues yet denying a major men's… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:41 PM |
| 5 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.but in writing it never seems to come across that way. Doesn't that make you wonder why feminists cling to it so passionately? I mean, if you kept being misunderstood because you use a specific term that isn't even used in wider culture, wouldn't you want to find a better one? Or, to put it another way, if somebody insisted on describing the apparent higher crime rate among black people as "toxic blackness", wouldn't that cast doubt on their motives? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:35 PM |
| 3 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.You demonstrated that you understand modifiers like "toxic" necessarily refer to things that vary in certain ways - hence the need to specify. If all personalities were toxic then "toxic personality" would be redundant. Same goes for "toxic masculinity". I would like to invite you to meet the challenge I outlined here | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:28 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.I'd also be careful of accepting the idea that it's some kind of exaggerated form of masculinity. Because anything becomes toxic if it's taken too far. The word for that is "excess" and it's superior in every way to "toxic masculinity". The reality is that feminists cling to "toxic masculinity" not in spite of its ostensibly bigoted undertone but because of it. There are better words for every definition they try to attach to it except they lack one thing: the misandric undertone. Therefore it's… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 12:21 PM |
| 4 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Your own words betray your sexism: Men have been in charge for tens of thousands of years, we made the rules and wrote the books No. Some men have been. Most people (including men) have not been in charge of anything. Saying "we" made the rules is an absurd way to collectivize half the population. A woman raised under fundamental Islamic culture and brainwashed to that way of thinking will then raise her daughter that way, that doesn't make it the mothers fault, she's a tragic victim too. So you… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 11:58 AM |
| 5 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.What do you call it? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 10:13 AM |
| – | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.To all the people arguing that it doesn't imply that all masculinity is toxic, I challenge you to: 1) define "toxic masculinity" in a way that cannot be done with non-gendered terms such as "gender role enforcement". 2) find unambiguous examples of non-toxic masculinity. It has to be clear when masculinity is on one side of the line and not on the other. 3) justify why this is only used for men/masculinity and no other minority or women? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:54 AM |
| 8 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Right. It's just nice and convenient that nobody seems to know let alone describe what kind of masculinity is not toxic. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:47 AM |
| 3 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.same goes for any woman telling women they have to ascribe to some standard of femininity to be a woman. Except feminist don't call that "toxic femininity". Also it's not only people of the same gender who do that to each other. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:45 AM |
| 2 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.I've certainly been witness to men condoning the suppression of emotions and predatory sexual conducts Only men? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:42 AM |
| 10 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.But it is pretty easy if you’re upset about the term “toxic masculinity” then you’re misdirecting your frustration. Is that true for "toxic blackness" as well? Or "toxic femininity"? Why is it only ever men who are targeted with this? What is so unique about them that warrants a special term? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:39 AM |
| 8 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Yeah I'm surprised more people on here don't know how adjectives work. I've never heard anyone argue that all masculinity is toxic It's not a grammar issue. It's a motte and bailey argument. In feminist discussion, masculinity itself is indeed treated as toxic alone by virtue of there being no reference to any viable and unambiguous alternative. And when challenged, they retreat to insisting they're only referring to some elements of masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:36 AM |
| 4 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Like there’s food that doesn’t kill you, and toxic food that doe Right. What kind of masculinity isn't toxic then? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:31 AM |
| 3 | "Toxic" masculinity? Kids say otherwise.Try not to be so sexist. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/18 09:27 AM |
| 4 | Menslib on false rape accusationsThis is a stupid debate because there is simply no way to know the percentage of rape accusations that are false. I disagree. Just because we don't know the number, does not mean we don't know what it's not. And when people claim it's what we know it can't be, then we owe it to the victims and people at risk to correct them. Especially if they proceed to use that false number as justification for dismissing said victims or even enact policy to increase their number. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/18 05:32 AM |
| 27 | Menslib on false rape accusationsBy their own standards they're practicing "toxic masculinity". | /r/MensRights | 22/09/18 09:51 PM |
| 1 | I'm a rapist because I believe in innocent until proven guilty. Kavanagh threadIf you submit posts like this, the names must be blacked out. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/18 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Depressed man has cops called for Welfare Check, cops come in and pepper spray him in the face and tackle him to the ground, while man is leaning back against a fence with legs and arms crossed.You’d be surprised Unlikely. I know that scene quite well and the real world consistently disappoints. There's a reason why it's so hard to find even a half-hearted RR romance in any kind of entertainment. it is of course less than vanilla relationships The question is how much less? Of course there exist exceptions. But as long as the overwhelming majority of women want a man to protect and chase them, it's unrealistic giving men the hope that they can ever have such intrinsic value. but on bot… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/18 06:07 PM |
| 6 | Depressed man has cops called for Welfare Check, cops come in and pepper spray him in the face and tackle him to the ground, while man is leaning back against a fence with legs and arms crossed.r/rolereversal and r/gentlefemdom would greatly disagree But how representative are they? Can an average man really expect or even hope for that sort of thing? My experience tells me he can't. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/18 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is a hate group. It tries to villianise males without even proof. Just look at the #MeToo movement. If the Manosphere does in fact 'hate women', it's well deserved.Everything that you just listed comes under the title 'I don't trust/like/hate women. You're muddling words to fit your extremely biased narrative. Firstly, if you're making a statement about "hatred" then you should not later try to substitute it for a broader description as you did with "don't trust/like/hate" above. Secondly, to your actual claim that it covers everything above, most definitely not. Alone the example of of avoiding women as a precaution makes absolutely no statement about hat… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/18 09:17 AM |
| 3 | As a mom, daughter, sister, otherwise relative, friend, and just a human being, this terrifies me. We must protect our boys!Talk about having the world backwards. Men stand up for women one hell of a lot more than the other way round. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/18 08:04 AM |
| 2 | This like... really bad"Legal status" and "legal treatment" are not the same thing. Not to mention what is being discussed is neither of those. Legal treatment is literally what you responded to. So yes we are discussing it. Legal status is a more general term but feel free to stick to "legal treatment". Demographic : "A particular sector of a population. " So men and women are not a sector of a population? Very well, cross out the word "demographic" and replace it with "subset of the population". Like above, the argu… | /r/MensRights | 16/09/18 03:51 PM |
| 6 | This like... really bad"Legal status" is not at play here. It is in the question of legal treatment that you answered above. Who gives a fuck about demographics. You did when you wrote "because men and women are not the same." Men and women are demographics. Easy; Men can inseminate women Not all men. I said "universally true for all people". Small piece of advice: you should not be so quick to call tasks "easy" - especially if you fail at performing them. It kind of backfires pretty hard :D Even in damaged women, the… | /r/MensRights | 16/09/18 01:08 PM |
| 3 | This like... really badgive me one god damned fuck of a reason that one sex is not to be given the same legal treatment as the other. Easy, because men and women are not the same. Being the same is not a requirement for having the same legal status. Men and women are also not the same within their demographics. In fact, I challenge you to find a difference between men and women that's universally true for all people but isn't a difference between different men/women within their respective demographic that would justi… | /r/MensRights | 16/09/18 12:24 PM |
| 3 | It happened. A rape joke & i was harrassed. Technically not a rape joke. You decide. How do i identify toxic feminism & how should we deal with it ?No. A slur against men is a slur against a demographic based on traits they were born with and have no control over. A slur against feminists is a slur against a political ideology. There are plenty of toxic ideologies. Calling feminists toxic is therefore not a fundamental error in thinking as the counterpart is. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/18 08:09 PM |
| 0 | Giving someone HIV is NOT a gay rights issue!!If you really feel this is relevant, then I suggest you make a text post and explain your view there. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/18 08:11 PM |
| 0 | Giving someone HIV is NOT a gay rights issue!!Sorry but this is off-topic. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/18 07:18 PM |
| 5 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.Lol. This thread can be condensed into: u/red_philosopher : I'm interested in hearing your ideas on trp and where specifically you disagree. u/neversleepsthejudge : You evil penis monster | /r/MensRights | 28/07/18 06:34 AM |
| 3 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.Yes, 2018 where 95% of the world's leaders are (wait for it) still men. 1) I said in the west 2) Fallacious reasoning. Most men aren't world leaders which contains the false premise that merely having the same genitalia as a world leader, somehow benefits a random man. I'm not saying men aren't victims in society too. We very much are. I know, but you seem frantically resistant to the possibility that men are in fact more often victims than women. Are you perhaps not as progressive as you though… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/18 06:20 AM |
| 2 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.LOL Yes. Men have literally RUN the world for 10 THOUSAND years Now that is a genuinely stupid statement. Men are not only a monolith but they are a single ruler now. Tell that to the next homeless man you see. and we are MORE oppressed than women. I didn't say oppressed. Stop lying. I said all things considered men have a lower living standard than women and it's interesting that you never attempted to challenge that. You just stick your fingers in your ears and blow raspberries. Who do you thi… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/18 06:08 AM |
| 1 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.I react to the individual saying stupid or unkind shit. What is "stupid or unkind shit" about the statement that men on average have it worse? I mean, even if it's false, then it's just that and we can discuss it but given that you said the exact same thing but with the sexes reversed, it seems that your own sexism has put you in a rather unfortunate position. I’m not limping everyone in this sub with the few morons Then why judge an individual referring to me as "people in this sub"? who attack… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/18 06:01 AM |
| 2 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.Please remove the link to their sub. We don't want any accusations of brigading. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:31 PM |
| 3 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.I guess that answers my question: You react to the truth with outrage at the messenger and lumping them in a group which you then proceed to smear. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:29 PM |
| 3 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.Do you deny that people fool themselves into believing something that's false? I'd say that's the more outrageous claim by far. I’m here to productively fight for lifting men and women up Yet you're the one dismissing arguments as "dumbest thing" or "ridiculous" or "waste of time". How very productive of you. not railing on a bogey man false perception of an entire group of diverse people I have yet to see a single response from you that would actually approach something that vaguely resembles a… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:27 PM |
| 4 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.I do think women have it worse on average. Aaaand that is objectively false. The stats are as clear as can be on this. The big question is: what will you do with that knowledge? I’m here to focus on the issues men have, however. Not rail against feminists. I don’t believe that’s productive at all. I don't think you know your way around gender issues sufficiently to be able to tell what's productive. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:22 PM |
| 5 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.Except I don’t agree with you. You mean you don't agree with yourself. It is you who wrote "as much" toxicity. Not me. You let the psychos you HAVE the psychos. You silence the psychos, you risk accidentally silencing your allies. Have you considered a 3rd option? Let them in but fight them. If they're so stupid, it should be easy to expose that. I have done it a lot. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:18 PM |
| 7 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.The ones I’m talking about believe in lifting men up as well. I'm sure they think and/or say they do. But the question I asked was, would they do so even if it came at a cost to women? Aren't you interested in the answer to that? If you don’t believe that that’s fine keep on railing against all women who call themselves feminists. Firstly, feminists aren't all women. Secondly, tell me why should I believe it? Give me one reason to think that's true? Have you any examples where feminists called f… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:16 PM |
| 9 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.I think there is a LOT of toxicity in this sub as well, just as much, just in an entirely different way. That's interesting given that we moderate lightly while they don't. Think of the implications of that. It means much of the opinions here are not endorsed or even wanted here. They're just left to stand because of the policy of not silencing opinions. Menslib on the other hand, by micromanaging every though, take full responsibility for everything that's said there. So when you say there's as… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:11 PM |
| 5 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.For what it's worth, the early days of online MRM was near 100% conservative right-wing. It's gotten less and less as it expanded. One reason it's still kind of there is because the right is at least willing to talk about this. While on the left it's just "men have all the power, save the women, penis penis vagina rape am I a good boy now?" | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:05 PM |
| 3 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.I don't agree with you at all. I've talked with many feminists who believe in equality between men and women. Have you considered the possibility that they only think they believe in equality but only because they have come to think that equality would mean a step up for women? What if they realized it was actually a step down? Would they still be fighting for equality then? | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 10:00 PM |
| 1 | I'll be honest, I generally agree with r/Menslib over this sub, but I just got banned and felt I had to share based on the ridiculous behavior of their mods.Do you not believe that women have been oppressed at all? Not the person you responded to but, yes, women hve been oppressed. People have been oppressed. I fully agree with the feminists who understand that men have been made victims as well. Do you not notice how the phrasing of that statement (are victims as well) gives away the true mindset behind them? The victimization is some kind of byproduct to those feminists. A byproduct of what though? Answer: The patriarchy or "toxic masculinity" or … | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Female victimhood is a Dangerous Beast and Needs to be Destroyed.When I see scenes like this, I do understand why pesudo-intellectual elitists and dictators think the way they do about the public at large. That's a very interesting thought. The question becomes what is more unjust? A ruthless dictator or a backwards mob. Images like that make it hard to come to a definitive answer. Maybe that's why we let dictatorships emerge in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 02:41 PM |
| 12 | Feminists Will Ban Everything You LoveNo. It's the natural state of people who have power. It just so happens that women have a lot of it. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/18 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on "Male Privilege"Do you believe that all things considered, on average, men are more advantaged than women? | /r/MensRights | 24/07/18 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on "Male Privilege"You're contrasting experiencing horrible things and dying by the millions to it being said that you shouldn't be allowed to experience horrible things and die. Yes I always find that response baffling: "Sure men get forced into a literal meat grinder but that's male privilege because it's telling them they're capable and women aren't". It's amazing how extreme sexism can get to genuinely believe the sex doing the dying is the one better off. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/18 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.Has that attempt at dismissal ever persuaded anyone of anything? | /r/MensRights | 24/07/18 08:56 AM |
| 1 | The Six Pillars Of International Men's Day. No.1 To Promote Positive Male Role Models.Don't use the report button to settle your squabbles. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/18 07:52 AM |
| 0 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.I'm not arguing that men's SMV will change, I'm arguing that changes in social structure and expectations will eventually have to happen. These changes in turn will affect the circumstances in women make choices, and hence women's choices. Exactly how do you see this playing out in a way that will make things better for men? In the past, the need for men was obvious. You wouln'd have to tell a woman why it's good to have a man in her life. Today, you do. An incentive like "somebody to provide fo… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.She is claiming that men need to keep being tools Because the circumstances, not her, require it. It's a statement of fact, not a request. this is not just a description of circumstances. Yes it is. Just like saying in this world you need to breathe isn't a request but a statement of fact. I do agree with her assessment of the circumstances So how in those circumstances would you propose men proceed? | /r/MensRights | 21/07/18 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.It's why when we approach the mainstream, we have to Again, a description of circumstances. No indication that this is how she wants things to be. I don't think it makes any difference. No difference between saying there's such a thing as cancer and recommending people to get cancer? You need to stop and think things though more level headed. Is this something you think men should strive for and support? No. And like Karen, I made zero indication of that. I think the problem is you're so upset (… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/18 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.It's getting there. Look at colleges: 1.5 women per man on the average campus. And yet colleges are gynocentric death stars. So, as you can see, either something else is going on or a much higher disparity is needed. One that would probably cause a whole lot of other problems which would be, guess what, men's job to fix. When men continue to MGTOW, or even just to stop marrying (hookup culture for women's loss), they keep ending up unhappier. I presume you meant women would end up unhappier. Lik… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/18 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.How exactly do you see that working? What does a top 1% male have to gain by telling women to respect the other 99% men more? | /r/MensRights | 21/07/18 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.And today marriage is pretty well known as an insane amount of risk Yet countless men marry and it's worse than that. Even after being screwed over, they try it again. If marriage was as risky for women as it is for men, it would never happen. That should tell you something about men and women. And that isn't going away by attempting to raise your bargaining position in this way. You're confused, I'm not making any sort of male SMV argument. You may think you aren't but that is what this strateg… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/18 07:21 AM |
| 5 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.That's not really the point of MGTOW Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But I think eventually, it will effect the way society works and some adjustments will have to be made. Which is circling right back to the missing premise that men have as much sexual bargaining power as women. Funny how it always comes down to that. More are doing so every day. It'll never be enough to have an impact. And if it ever is, then it'll only be momentary. Only the alphas, the men women already prefer. A status you… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 08:37 PM |
| 4 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.She's arguing that men should make themselves more valuable tools No. That's your interpretation. She's saying that, given the situation, all men can do is make themselves more valuable tools. Do you understand the difference? how do you see this as a path to freedom? I don't. You just don't understand that this isn't the point of discussion. To sum it up: Somebody asked why there are isn't more men's rights. She answered. Do you disagree with that answer? | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 08:18 PM |
| 6 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.That's the first interesting counter I've read on the topic. I'll have to ponder it some more but my initial not thought out reaction is that anything like that would probably trigger more oppressive responses from society. Just look at how fathers are already treated. I just can't see people in power going "you know, maybe we should be nicer to men". That's just not how things work. There needs to be direct incentive for individuals. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 08:06 PM |
| 5 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.she says there's no escape from the role of a slave, so men must make themselves high-value slaves. Which is a description of circumstances. Perhaps it's wrong but that doesn't make it a prescription. But slaves are even more disposable than men are today. Yes. It's a very bad circumstance she's describing. she's not arguing for a solution or any actual change Not necessary to accurately describe a situation. You might say though that describing accurately is a necessary step toward finding solu… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.The problem with this is the missing premise that men have as much sexual bargaining power as women and they just don't. Any action of the kind "let's not play and teach the others a lesson until they come back begging" women can play more easily and more effectively than men by orders of magnitude. Even if you could get more men to jump off the playing field, all that means is that the remaining men have more women to themselves. You're just making their lives easier. And, just for the sake of … | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 07:46 PM |
| 15 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.I think she's being descriptive in that comment, not prescriptive. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 07:37 PM |
| 15 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.Not being able to exploit you personally is good and that's why I say it's sensible for individual men to go MGTOW. But that just won't work for society on the whole. Things are very different in large populations. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 07:19 PM |
| 22 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.MGTOW is a good idea for individual men but it's absolutely hopeless to accomplish any improvement in society. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult.It's from another subreddit so I'm not so keen on linking there from here but you can find it by searching her comment history. Shouldn't be too far back. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 06:49 PM |
| 1 | In France its ILLEGAL to make a DNA test by father. If you try to make a DNA test secretly you will face a year in prison and a 15,000 € fine. So you stay the legal father even if the wife cheated.Given the fact that you think I was genuinely welcoming an extraterrestrial, I'm going to call into question your ability to tell when somebody is being sarcastic. So please don't take this as an insult but I just cannot take you seriously. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 06:21 PM |
| 1 | In France its ILLEGAL to make a DNA test by father. If you try to make a DNA test secretly you will face a year in prison and a 15,000 € fine. So you stay the legal father even if the wife cheated.sincerely, I had no reason to believe you weren't one of those people Lol. You mean "You must be new to earth." didn't clue you in on the sarcasm? Ok :D | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 05:50 PM |
| 1 | In France its ILLEGAL to make a DNA test by father. If you try to make a DNA test secretly you will face a year in prison and a 15,000 € fine. So you stay the legal father even if the wife cheated.Holy crap can't you see the sarcasm in the comment? Or wait, you only read the bold font? That would explain it. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 05:25 PM |
| 1 | In France its ILLEGAL to make a DNA test by father. If you try to make a DNA test secretly you will face a year in prison and a 15,000 € fine. So you stay the legal father even if the wife cheated.Calm down and switch the brain on before reacting. Describing how something is does not equate to prescribing it. You're welcome. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 05:01 PM |
| 56 | Paglia Bomb.Not clever. Not true. Not funny. The trifecta of a failed comment. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/18 07:19 AM |
| 74 | Female Australian senator accuses a male senator of making a misogynistic insult. He responds by documenting 26 examples of her making misandrist insults in the senate.Can you be less creative with your title wording in the future? The words "misogyny" and "misandry" should not be watered down to mean any insult directed at a woman/man. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/18 01:13 PM |
| 1 | In France its ILLEGAL to make a DNA test by father. If you try to make a DNA test secretly you will face a year in prison and a 15,000 € fine. So you stay the legal father even if the wife cheated.Same. Though I don't see it as a means of changing the world or teaching society something. It's just a personal choice based on the reality of the circumstances and, incidentally, not being a fucking moron. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/18 06:54 AM |
| 5 | In France its ILLEGAL to make a DNA test by father. If you try to make a DNA test secretly you will face a year in prison and a 15,000 € fine. So you stay the legal father even if the wife cheated.What harm could come from doing the test "in secret", without the wife's consent? If the doubts are true, then the man wins and can walk away from a cheating spouse. You must be new to earth. Allow me to welcome you to the blue planet. 3rd in the solar system. Currently dominated by a species of two sexes in which the one called "male" cannot walk away from responsibility to a family regardless of whether it is his or not. Hope you enjoy your stay. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/18 07:36 PM |
| 2 | the menslib subreddit is truly damaging to menMenslib is like an ER where no blood may be visible to anyone. Men's issues aren't pretty, aren't PC and they're even anti-feminist as they contradict feminist dogma by existing at all. Talking about them is always going to offend people and it will always fail to make women feel good about themselves. And because of that, restricting such discussion to pro-feminist opinions is doomed to fail. At best they can only become a kind of pity party where men share their feminist-approved experiences o… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 05:44 PM |
| 11 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'Because I cannot be bothered talking to you anymore. We're both wasting our time and I'm bored with this conversation. That's no reason to delete the comment. What are you trying to hide? Arguing with some random guy on Reddit about something I don't even care about that much isn't what I planned to do this evening. I don't buy this. You made the effort to type this and argue about why you can't be bothered to argue. More likely this is just an excuse. Radical feminism and actual feminism are di… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 09:18 AM |
| 3 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'Why did you delete your comment I replied to here? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 08:50 AM |
| 6 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'Their comment directly shows there is a polar opposite difference between radical and non-radical anything This is circular reasoning. You're just attaching opposite labels to the two respective groups and then declare that they're the opposite because they have opposite labels. That doesn't show that there's a difference beyond the one I already pointed out. Question: Do you or do you not agree that both camps we're talking about have a fundamental belief in some kind of patriarchy that needs t… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 08:30 AM |
| 6 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'Some christians hate gays. Some christians don’t hate gays. There. Your point is invalid. How does that invalidate my point? even I can see that you personally leave out the huge gray area that is human belief. Oh so you take issue with the part where I say they have the same fundamental belief in some kind of patriarchy? Well then the way to refute that is to demonstrate that either of the two categories we're talking about doesn't believe in any kind of patriarchy. Good luck with that ;) | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 08:03 AM |
| 10 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'I wonder if anyone ever stopped to think what "smash the patriarchy" means. There are definitely multiple possible meanings. And going on an extermination spree is one of them. It's certainly more plausible than "give women things for free they haven't earned" which is actually old-fashioned chivalry and therefore "patriarchal" itself. So, ironically, the "kill all men" feminists actually use the more literal meaning of the call. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 07:58 AM |
| 15 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'Talk about sidestepping. Are you not even going to attempt to refute anything I wrote? Just throw random statements at me, along with some mud, and hope that nobody will notice that you left my comment completely unchallenged? Are you afraid of unpacking it? Are you afraid that it might actually be true? Why? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 07:50 AM |
| 9 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'No straw man. Yes it was. Read my comment again. It's not the same as what you pretended to reply to. I am even sympathetic to your plight. If that is really true, then I suggest you start by listening to what we actually say and not misrepresenting us. So why don't we unpack this and talk properly. What exactly do you disagree with about my comment. Take this statement I made for example: The only difference is how far they want to go to "rectify" their imagined injustices. I presume you don't … | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 07:46 AM |
| -1 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'No difference between expecting special treatment and the murder of half the population? Not if that special treatment happens to consist of being able to murder half of the population ;) Try to make a better straw man next time. This was too easy :D | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 06:47 AM |
| 37 | USA: Male hate. Disturbing video shows the shocking moment a mother strikes a little boy in a playground and threatens to make him infertile screaming, ‘I’m going to kick you in the f***ing nuts'There is no fundamental difference between mainstream feminism and the "kill all men" type feminism. They have the same underlying ridiculous, infantile belief that society is some kind of "patriarchy" , unfairly set up to benefit men over women. The only difference is how far they want to go to "rectify" their imagined injustices. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/18 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Woman doesn't understand why female football players are paid less.Fair enough. We do live in a time where one only keeps hearing of female accomplishment and male failure. like Ronday Rousey claiming she could defeat Floyd Mayweather. It would have been an even worse murder-stomp than I thought. Yeah that would not be something anyone wants to see (though I believe Ronda is kind of anti-feminist about a number of things). That's also why we don't see the national women's teams play the national men's teams. It's just not entertaining to watch (plus I think the… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/18 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Woman doesn't understand why female football players are paid less....... are you serious? Can anyone confirm? Yes and yes. I am legitimately in shock and disbelief..... they're boys, under 15.... lol, HOW? Why is that so surprising to you? Your username suggests you're past the feminist narrative of the sexes being equal. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/18 03:32 AM |
| 2 | Woman doesn't understand why female football players are paid less.This is quite common actually. Women's national teams sometimes play against u15 boys for practice. Usually resulting in a clear win for the boys. It's normal and expected. The athletes aren't making a fuss over this. It's the bloody journalists who just won't stop spinning narratives. To the detriment of both sexes. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/18 08:33 PM |
| -4 | "Feminists are just female incels."That reply is as stupid as your post. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/18 04:23 PM |
| 3 | "Feminists are just female incels."Lol. I bet that really hit them where it hurts. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/18 04:17 PM |
| -2 | "Feminists are just female incels."Spot on! | /r/MensRights | 06/07/18 04:15 PM |
| -4 | "Feminists are just female incels."No. Incels have reason to be upset. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/18 04:14 PM |
| 2 | If Men's Rights is so critical - why are there no actual MRA groups protesting on the frontlines, causing civil disobedience, really making their voices heard? Why is MRA limited to sullen bitter internet forums?Yes please do and I'll sticky it (ping me if that's not done within 24h). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/18 06:47 PM |
| 6 | If Men's Rights is so critical - why are there no actual MRA groups protesting on the frontlines, causing civil disobedience, really making their voices heard? Why is MRA limited to sullen bitter internet forums?Would you mind making this a self post to mensrights? Or I could make one if you'd prefer that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/18 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson sues Wilfrid Laurier University for defamation. $1.5 million. A very good chance he will win.Women don't have as much to gain from listening to him. Many women can and do get by with very little responsibility. Society shields them from that burden as far as possible and then some. Men get thrown into deep water and JP is showing them how to swim. Women have lifeboats. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/18 07:42 PM |
| 1 | So, women?IDGAF about the logic of the statement. Exactly. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not sure why you are so focused on "truth value." Because I don't want lies or falsehoods to be spread or used in reasoning. And in order to identify such falsehoods, one must establish their truth value. Take this statement for example:"Every minute that passes, we are one minute closer to death." Would you say it's true or false? | /r/MensRights | 23/06/18 08:54 AM |
| 1 | So, women?Again: how does that affect the truth value of the statement? | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 08:30 PM |
| 2 | So, women?And what context have you provided that affects the truth value of the statement as used in the context of this post? | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 06:07 PM |
| 2 | So, women?No. I think the 2016 election very clearly showed that. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 03:42 PM |
| 7 | So, women?"or better still ... a .... MISOGYNIST" mic drop | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 11:45 AM |
| 2 | So, women?Oh they're obsessed with people. That's all they ever talk about. I can't count how often I argued with them and they instinctively assumed I'm just complaining about my life and respond with stuff like "sorry you can't get laid". Because that's how they think and they project that onto everyone else. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 08:05 AM |
| 7 | So, women?Regardless - the government doesn't "rule". | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 08:02 AM |
| 8 | So, women?Does the source of a quote not matter to you? It's a quote! The name attached to the quote is where it derives weight. Great people focus on ideas. Mediocre people focus on events and small people focus on people. Take the statement "2+2=4". How is its truth value affected by altering the person who makes it? If it is right, it's right like a broken clock is a couple times a day. You're conflating the statement with the person who made it. You should be saying "if he is right,..." not if "it" is… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 05:32 AM |
| 8 | So, women?Yes. It's a democracy. Not a monarchy or dictatorship. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 05:27 AM |
| 15 | So, women?Who cares who said it? Focus on the idea not the person who voices it. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/18 05:26 AM |
| 2 | Texts show Chris Hardwick ENDED relationship with Chloe Dykstra and she begged to get back together for months'- after actress accused her ex of sexual abuseI think we're watching the tipping point #MeToo unfolding here. If you really think there's some kind of tipping point around the corner, then you need to take a closer look at the world. This game has been played since the beginning of civilization. Hell, entire western culture is based on a false rape accusation (Mary's consent wasn't valid after all). Sorry to break this to you, but settle in for the looooong haul. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/18 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Texts show Chris Hardwick ENDED relationship with Chloe Dykstra and she begged to get back together for months'- after actress accused her ex of sexual abuseThe problem is they assume that she was victimized and then say "but somebody who got raped wouldn't make up a false rape accusation". Well duh. That's like saying "but god wouldn't invent a story about himself therefore god is telling the truth and atheism is wrong". | /r/MensRights | 20/06/18 08:53 PM |
| 5 | Texts show Chris Hardwick ENDED relationship with Chloe Dykstra and she begged to get back together for months'- after actress accused her ex of sexual abuseSpoke to a criminal lawyer at dinner once with a bunch of judges, state prosecutors etc. I didn't bring up false rape accusations. He did (as an example of how someone completely innocent typically winds up needing him). He said they happen for even the most trivial of reasons. Need a quick excuse for not being home on time? Just say what everybody must believe. They're not even necessarily malicious about it. She hasn't thought it through that when she claims she was raped, that police (or anyo… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/18 08:48 PM |
| 3 | I just finished “The Red Pill” and I just want to post this to solidify that I am no longer a feminist.Calm down and find another battle to fight. | /r/MensRights | 17/06/18 07:36 AM |
| 8 | I just finished “The Red Pill” and I just want to post this to solidify that I am no longer a feminist.No. 1) You laugh at the idea of men's rights activism. 2) You don't laugh at the idea of women's rights activism. Hence you don't treat the sexes equally. Sorry if that's not how you'd like to be seen. But that is in fact how you described your own behavior. And denying it doesn't change that. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/18 09:11 PM |
| 7 | I just finished “The Red Pill” and I just want to post this to solidify that I am no longer a feminist.Then you don't practice equal treatment. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/18 08:45 PM |
| 7 | I just finished “The Red Pill” and I just want to post this to solidify that I am no longer a feminist.You are claiming that women's issues exist. Please try to name one. You are claiming women lack rights. Actually he didn't. u/xydroh merely said there's nothing wrong with caring about women's rights/issues. One can absolutely do so without believing women lack any rights at this point - for example to maintain the rights they have should anyone ever want to take them away. And I share that sentiment. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/18 06:35 PM |
| 2 | I just finished “The Red Pill” and I just want to post this to solidify that I am no longer a feminist.Here are some indications as to why it's probably real. 1) it's quite a long post. People who fake things are lazy and don't spend any effort on them. 2) The story makes sense. Usually people trolling us don't actually know what we want or complain about. So they only write about what feminists told them we are like and make posts like "I'm an MRA and I agree now that women belong in the kitchen". 3) It's got the emotions of an immediate reaction just like OP is describing she had. 4) She's abso… | /r/MensRights | 16/06/18 06:31 PM |
| 11 | I just finished “The Red Pill” and I just want to post this to solidify that I am no longer a feminist.I think everyone deserves equal treatment. So you laugh at women's rights initiatives too then. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/18 06:26 PM |
| 11 | The Trolling Panic Exposed - The Net is Not a Hostile Place for WomenMy theory on the whole harassment racket is that women are used to being treated significantly better than men. It's been shown that people view treating women equally to men as sexist against women. And when that's all you know, then you don't register it as preferential (privilege blindness is another projection btw.) But the internet (especially in the early years) is very anonymous. That makes it more egalitarian in a way. So women perceive the internet to be far more hostile than real life … | /r/MensRights | 14/06/18 09:28 PM |
| 3 | Stop teaching girls men are the enemy: The true, hidden history of the SuffragettesI wasn't talking specifically about the US. Most of this I know about is in the UK. So don't take my word for this about the US. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/18 09:22 PM |
| 2 | A great Quora answer, which perfectly explains why MRAs and feminists oppose each other so much.You can phrase it as MRA instead of men and my point still stands. No. MRAs aren't all men either. People are infinitely more likely to consider their own gender first even if they strive for true equality. Adding "infinitely" to the statement doesn't make it any less false. Quite the opposite actually. Just because something seems obvious, doesn't mean it's true. There is a well documented out-group bias in men causing them to favor women. that is not the case with women. I suggest you inform y… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/18 09:21 PM |
| 4 | Stop teaching girls men are the enemy: The true, hidden history of the SuffragettesDo you hate men? | /r/MensRights | 14/06/18 09:15 PM |
| 5 | Stop teaching girls men are the enemy: The true, hidden history of the SuffragettesSince when has the right to vote been connected with the draft? It used to be. In fact, the draft was one reason the right to vote was extended to all men. The argument is that they earned it. And the draft was also one reason women and even some feminists were against the right to vote. They feared it would result in women being drafted. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/18 08:49 PM |
| 2 | A great Quora answer, which perfectly explains why MRAs and feminists oppose each other so much.Yet another one who sees "feminists" and reads "women". we're far more likely to be biased in favor of ourselves. Not even true. Both men and women are biased in favor of women. Men just a bit less so. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"You're not answering this question: And how will you put them in office when the vast majority votes with gynocentric bias? Saying this generation is lost isn't an answer. Who is "we" and how will "we" fire/suspend them? Other politicians? Again: how will you get them to not be gynocentric? That is how people vote. Try running an election campaign on men's issues or even anti-feminist. Pissing against the wind is more productive. But I never suggested a complete reorganization of society Removin… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/18 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"Because that's worked out really well so far. It hasn't been tried so you can't know that. And the reason it hasn't been tried is lack of knowledge on gender issues. And that is what we can and are addressing. That's why I said we need the right kind of politicians And how will you put them in office when the vast majority votes with gynocentric bias? No, on the surface it would be "democracy" (kinda like today), but whenever someone so much as suggests prioritizing women, just fire them or susp… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/18 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"What are the advantages of a male birth control pill Well condoms are not reliable. This adds another layer of security that isn't 100% in the hands of women. Which leads me to the next point: he doesn't have to rely on her taking the pill and "forgetting" to take it. He can avoid unwanted fatherhood this way. I.e. have reproductive control that currently only women have. Maybe the right person will come along someday who won't take any shit from women, and will drastically reduce their rights o… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/18 08:21 AM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson, men’s rights activist, makes Indianapolis tour stopas revered as you might be around here Lol what? Jordan unambiguously said he was sorry that he had a wicked sense of humor and his words were a product of that humor Which is not "quite literally said the equivalent of "they cannot take a joke"." You don't seem to understand the difference: The quote is an admission of error. The sentence you're trying to ascribe to him (for which this quote is your best example) is pointing out flaws in MGTOWs - that they're basically oversensitive snowflakes.… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/18 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"How it would it be better than condoms though? Seriously? How old are you? I was saying an old-fashioned situation politically. But that's the fallacy the tradcons make. That "old-fashioned" politics was not what earned men respect. It was the hardship of the times that gave rise to said politics. When you don't know if you can find enough food to survive, or need to do heavy lifting, or threats are all around you, there's no question about the use of having a man (preferably many) on your side.… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/18 11:07 PM |
| 11 | A great Quora answer, which perfectly explains why MRAs and feminists oppose each other so much.That's a pretty clever response. I like how she explains things from both points of view. I think she might underestimate how many feminists are type 3. In fact, I think type 1 is a subset of type 3. With very few exceptions, even the most egalitarian feminists, when pushed, will reveal a mindset of female victimhood. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/18 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson, men’s rights activist, makes Indianapolis tour stopNo, he quite literally said the equivalent of "they cannot take a joke". Yet the quote you found to illustrate this, says nothing of the kind. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/18 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"What do you mean by this? male birth control. Honestly, I've been thinking maybe a kinda short-term patriarchy or something would be a lot better than what we have now. Assuming that's even possible, how do you prevent it from becoming what we have now? Like let's just go back to a pre-20th century situation You want to get rid of most of our infrastructure, modern medicine, electricity etc? Think about this. Yes men were respected more but that doesn't mean life was better for them. It might le… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/18 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"I was about to crack a praying mantis joke but the National Geographic beat me to it. Under the title Feminism and Cannibalism: I am also a big time feminist. I find praying mantises to be so fascinating, ... This tattoo is a metaphor for my independance... From Wikipedia: The female may start feeding by biting off the male’s head (as with any prey), and if mating had begun, the male’s movements may become even more vigorous in its delivery of sperm. Early researchers thought that because copula… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/18 06:43 AM |
| 4 | STEM fieldsEven just commenting or posting in the "wrong" sub can get you banned in some places. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/18 06:20 AM |
| 2 | STEM fieldsReddit should have a mic drop button for comments like this. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:36 PM |
| 2 | STEM fieldsI have no idea why I’m being downvoted, I’m just saying that math isn’t “hard” just complex Perhaps because you forgot to define "hard". | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:35 PM |
| 13 | STEM fieldsAnd don't forget, Newton's Principia Mathematica is.... ... a "rape manual". I'm not making this up. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:34 PM |
| 0 | STEM fields"It's not a zero sum game!". Well sometimes 1+1=0 | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:32 PM |
| 5 | STEM fieldsWell ask yourself what incentive is there to even look, let alone see it? When society is basically a giant club of people jumping over each other to please your demographic and you don't know anything else, then odds are you wouldn't look either. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:27 PM |
| 5 | STEM fieldsI got banned despite never posting there. So I win. haha. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:21 PM |
| 8 | Men have it worse than women in our society in all major metrics(with sources). Why does society itself insist it's the other way?You forgot the most important (certainly to women): safety In general, this is very important. The very justification of sexist "counteraction" is always that "women have it worse". The only way to deal with that is to point out the reality. Now feminist swill often respond with "oh we better not engage in oppression olympics". Funny thing is, they only ever say that when somebody points out who really has it worse. Right in the next room, the same feminists will go "yes we need xyz because wome… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"Oh boy. I think we might have to get used to being in it for the long haul. Unless there's another paradigm shift (like the male pill or something) that completely changes the game. But frankly the main problem is one that has nothing to do with feminism or even politics. It's just that modern relative comfort and safety has made the obvious benefits of masculinity a lot less obvious. Hence it's seen more as a liability than anything else. Feminism didn't cause that. It just jumped on and ruthle… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/18 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"Who is saying men should be able to preemptively kill their wives? | /r/MensRights | 10/06/18 06:42 PM |
| 13 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"How is the situation for men's rights better now? Well back in the early days of online MRM (before and in the early period of AFVM and even this sub) it was basically just a handful of (mostly conservative), very active commenters attacking feminist articles (back then comments sections weren't moderated as heavily as today). Some of those are still around today (I'm one of them though I was never conservative). Before the internet, anything that might remotely approach an MRM were the occasion… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/18 01:38 PM |
| 5 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"I know. It's hard to keep up with the sheer quantity of bullshit that feminists have the capability of unleashing on the world. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/18 01:05 PM |
| 3 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"They are better now. Perhaps you just haven't been around here long enough to know how bad they used to be. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/18 06:56 AM |
| 11 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"I may be wrong, but this seems markedly worse than most feminist articles about men What about the feminist law professor Elizabeth Sheehy who published a book in which she writes that women experiencing abuse from their husbands, should be able to preemptively kill them in their sleep without fear of being charged with murder. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/18 06:55 AM |
| 10 | Prof. Suzanna Danuta Walters: "Why Can't We Hate Men?"My 6TB mass storage is getting rather full with feminist misandry/sexism ;) | /r/MensRights | 10/06/18 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Justin Trudeau denies molesting a woman at festival. Bet he thinks you should believe all OTHER accusers though, because only White Knights can be falsely accused.You realize one can be both agnostic about the accusation and amused by it? Also there's a strategic element to holding your opposition to their own standards. Like telling him if he's really serious about getting women into politics, he should step down and put his efforts into supporting a vagina-owning person (VOP from now on). | /r/MensRights | 09/06/18 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Justin Trudeau denies molesting a woman at festival. Bet he thinks you should believe all OTHER accusers though, because only White Knights can be falsely accused.I rather liked that response. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/18 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Justin Trudeau denies molesting a woman at festival. Bet he thinks you should believe all OTHER accusers though, because only White Knights can be falsely accused.The difference is that there is a sizable heap of incidents of male feminists assaulting women. Some even openly declare themselves feminists as some kind of penance. Others just blatantly project their predatory mindset onto all men "It's my maleness that made me do it". | /r/MensRights | 09/06/18 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Justin Trudeau denies molesting a woman at festival. Bet he thinks you should believe all OTHER accusers though, because only White Knights can be falsely accused.even better | /r/MensRights | 09/06/18 06:06 PM |
| 1 | About as blunt as it getsBiology. I know people (not necessarily you) have this image of the all compassionate angel of nurture in their minds when they think of women. But their part in reproduction being so much more costly and risky, necessitates a far more ruthless kind of pragmatism. I think men often romanticize maternity to the point of blindness, not realizing how calculating they often can be. I could be wrong of course but I suspect, if one raised an average woman like an average man, the woman would probably … | /r/MensRights | 09/06/18 05:15 AM |
| 2 | Anthony Bourdain has died in an apparent suicide by hanging at 61 - male suicide continues to risePlease what? | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 08:53 PM |
| 2 | Welp! We're all sexist.I agree. But solving it means first understanding and accepting that it's an inherent part of humanity. That means removing it will have major consequences and/or can only happen under drastically different circumstances. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Welp! We're all sexist.Abomination was the wrong word. I meant deviation from the norm. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 03:55 PM |
| 0 | About as blunt as it getsMen and women have different values on this. Honestly I think, if anything, women are more suited to supporting themselves. The reason it doesn't play out that way very often is because society offers them so many more ways to accomplish it. Why earn if others pay for you? That's not having different values. It's just good old privilege. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 12:20 PM |
| 0 | Welp! We're all sexist.Feminists are the most sexist of all They're obsessed with sex. They classify and view all people by some hierarchy of discrete classes in which women are always bottom and men always top. Not only that, they depend upon sexism. It's the fuel that keeps feminism running. Without the axiom that women are somehow inherently better and more worthy of compassion, nothing about feminism would hold water. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 11:59 AM |
| 4 | Welp! We're all sexist.Problem is "normal" people are sexist. That's why we have sexism. We have to get past this myth that sexism is some kind of abomination that one can just train out of people. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 11:53 AM |
| 0 | Welp! We're all sexist.Even these guys at least aim to reunite. But left/right camps just need the team battling I suppose. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/18 11:52 AM |
| 3 | Is this society making men less motivated?This is not women's fault We should at the very least hold women responsible for their own decision making. If they decide to pursue high status careers and then price themselves out of the market, that's on them and only them. There's also a really easy solution available to them. It's this pathological unwillingness to hold them accountable that's the problem. Most people have no clue where the flaw is in that strategy so they blame men. Of course. I agree we can't (or shouldn't) go back. The … | /r/MensRights | 07/06/18 02:29 PM |
| 15 | Meanwhile on Facebook... Someone asked the question "What isn't illegal but unanimously considered a dick move?" and this happened...The reason why they perceive any attention on male issues as an attack is because, while they say they care about women, what they really think and feel is "I care about women, not men". You can see it in the way they talk and how they react to things. This exchange is no different. And they project that thinking onto those who say anything caring about men - assuming that those people would do the same with the sexes reversed (i.e. care about men not women). Projection explains a lot of their b… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/18 08:10 AM |
| 7 | Is this society making men less motivated?Yes. The universities need clean up their humanities departments in a big way. It's an absolute disgrace that what is about as rigorous as "nazi studies" has been given so much legitimacy. And I know exactly how it happened: people scared to be called misogynist or even be seen as being against women. Unfortunately there is a bigger problem too though: It's not feminists who are responsible for the current state of masculinity (thou they sure as hell rode on the wave of its denigration). The pro… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 09:22 PM |
| 12 | Is this society making men less motivated?Yup. The problem with complete freedom is: complete responsibility. Total sexual liberation means that a large portion of men will wind up ostracized and that's a massive problem. I don't know what the solution is. I know for sure what it isn't: denigrating them and blaming them for it. Now if anyone is thinking that what feminists often say should be done, namely that it shouldn't be about sex and you should be able to be respected by other means, lose that thought. Why? Because if any of those… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 08:46 PM |
| 34 | Is this society making men less motivated?Yes. Simple reason: nobody likes to play a game they can't win. And the current setup for men is that, no matter what they do, they've failed. Don't earn enough? Loser. Earn well? Privileged, toxic masculine patriarch keeping women down. Even the highest status man can easily be brought down by a woman of any status with a mere accusation. So why bother? Just earn enough for your own needs and let society go to hell since it clearly wants to. Note that I'm not advocating that. This is just an ex… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 08:30 PM |
| 77 | Article blames Men's Rights activists for Disney's Star Wars female actresses receiving harassment!Please archive things like this. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 08:22 PM |
| 4 | Because men are the only ones who cheat.Highschoolers don't give a crap about domestic services. They just want to be popular, have the latest toys/clothes and some are obsessed with sex. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 07:43 PM |
| 7 | Because men are the only ones who cheat.or anyone comforting "him" in the process. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 07:38 PM |
| 1 | The Factual Feminist: My new favorite Youtube Channel.Have you tried challenging them on the use of the word "feminism"? Yes, often. You don't win that argument with them. Full stop. Like 10 times worse than feminist's ordinary stubborn rage. It's not about winning the argument. It's about exposing the truth. Anyone else will see them struggling. Just like right now I'm challenging some on the term "toxic masculinity". They won't change their minds but anyone else reading who isn't already sold, will see it unfold. Think of it more like a vaccine t… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 03:26 PM |
| 1 | The Factual Feminist: My new favorite Youtube Channel.Women are insistent about using this feminist label. Not sure about women in general but to the extent that people insist on using it, that is where we can challenge them: ask why they insist on it. What's so special about the label. Best we can do is redefine it. The problem is you don't get to define it. In no universe will it ever be about equality. For every feminist you manage to educate about their own gender blinders and put them on a path of true equality, there are dozens more younger o… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/18 11:24 AM |
| 4 | The Factual Feminist: My new favorite Youtube Channel.Cristina Hoff Sommers is a feminist. A real feminist. Oh please. If she insists on calling herself a feminist, that's her choice but to say she's the "real" kind is absurd. She's a very rare exception. An honest-to-god, old-school first-wave feminist who isn't buying the outrageous dogma being pushed by modern activists. Ok do you realize that "old-school" feminists were every bit as bad and in some ways worse than modern feminists? The only real difference is that some of today's feminists are … | /r/MensRights | 05/06/18 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Help us fund witness travel to the lawsuit against the Calgary Expo and the Mary SueIt's the least I can do. You do the truly revolutionary act I often challenge feminists who think they're fighting gender roles: you stood up for men. I hope this makes everyone who wants to smear or evict people for being MRAs a little bit more cautious in the future. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/18 08:41 PM |
| 11 | STUDY: Feminists more willing to 'sacrifice' menFeminism is not about hating men, but there sure are a lot of psychos that try to claim they are feminists Ever wondered what the percentage of people who hate men is among feminists vs the rest of the population? There's a reason it's full of man haters. It attracts them. The label itself already does. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/18 08:35 PM |
| 7 | STUDY: Feminists more willing to 'sacrifice' menTLR: study shows feminists to be sexist tradcons and researchers don't like that so they make up excuses to try and explain the sexism as fighting the patriarchy. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/18 08:32 PM |
| 10 | Help us fund witness travel to the lawsuit against the Calgary Expo and the Mary SueJust what we needed. A female MRA puts herself out there to speak up for men, challenging the feminist narrative and your response is to shit on her because vagina. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/18 05:13 PM |
| 9 | Help us fund witness travel to the lawsuit against the Calgary Expo and the Mary Suevery short version: feminists lie about MRAs to get them banned, MRA takes it to court. Slightly less short version: HBB were at a comic expo with their own stand. A discussion came up were people talked about MRAs and Alison aka typhonblue politely offered some insight since she's an MRA (that's all on audio). Shortly after, she was accused of harassing people, and next the HBB with their stand were banned from the expo. What's unusual here is that it's one of the rare cases where MRAs fight ba… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/18 05:27 AM |
| 4 | why is there a misandry subreddit but no misogynyDon't use the report button for your personal squabbles. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Anti-HPV jab will be given to teenage boys if they identify as girlsDon't abuse the report button to settle personal disputes. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 08:59 PM |
| 2 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'You already agreed to the point that you can be a feminist Don't put words in my mouth. I did nothing of the sort. without being a radical third wave bastardization of the term, so why are you telling me feminists are basically nazis? I didn't say nazis. That's your description. And I also said nothing about 3rd wave. This vilification has been going on pretty much from the beginning. Hey let me tell you a little bit about men vs female track records.. Classic bait and switch. We were talking ab… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 04:22 PM |
| 6 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'Probably because those categories relate to minorities in our society that arent as priviledged as white men are Women are a majority and they're more privileged than men. As a white man i wouldnt really feel comfortable talking about "toxic gayness" because i dont really relate or understand the issue on a level that would indicate that my opinion would be valuable to a discussion. How does that not apply to women talking about toxic masculinity? Also what has privilege got to do with it? I do … | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 02:58 PM |
| 6 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'You know, in order to be able to make witty comebacks, you need to know the subject. MRAs don't vilify women let alone the way feminists have which is sometimes indistinguishable from the rhetoric of ethnic cleansers. We didn't claim there's a "matriarchy" that's causing all the gender injustices or. So really the track record is massively against your attempt at whataboutism. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 02:40 PM |
| 5 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'How about you answer my question Which question? This one: "Oh are you serious?" Answer: yes. Or this question: "You do realise you can dislike certain aspects of masculinity as it is stereotyped without disliking men as a whole right?" Answer: yes. And how about you answer mine: would use terms like "toxic femininity", "toxic blackness" or "toxic gayness"? If not, then why? If yes then why don't we see them used ever? | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 02:31 PM |
| 3 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'Christina Hoff Sommers is a fantastic feminist for an example. Really? I think she's a terrible feminist. She doesn't hate men or blame them for everything bad in the world. She's a total failure of a feminist. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 02:27 PM |
| 4 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'That is your problem, not mine. It seems to be feminist's problem since they're often complaining about constantly having to explain the term. Given the trouble it gives them, you'd think they'd find another but something about it just makes them feel good I suppose. What you are doing now is moving the goalpost. No. I said from the beginning what I think the term means. Your response was effectively to say you mean something else. So I then told you to say that something else if that's what you… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 02:20 PM |
| 5 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'You do realise you can dislike certain aspects of masculinity as it is stereotyped without disliking men as a whole right? If that's what you mean then that's what you should say. Why create a blanket term under which misandrists can go unnoticed because of the cover it provides them? Unless you want them to go unnoticed. Would you use terms like "toxic femininity", "toxic blackness" or "toxic gayness"? If not, then why? If yes then why don't we see them used ever? | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 11:54 AM |
| 10 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'Toxic masculinity is the feminist equivalent of the Jewish conspiracy. Its only purpose is to vilify men. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 11:38 AM |
| 3 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'The point is that some make these jobs more dangerous for themselves for the sake of bravado. You are hopelessly uninformed. Workplace safety used to be much worse. In fact, women entering many areas has been instrumental in pushing towards higher safety standards. Women's lives are more valuable to society. Also the suggestion that people make their jobs more dangerous for the sake of it is ridiculous. Stop blaming men for everything and take some responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 11:33 AM |
| 5 | 9 in 10 Job-Related Fatalities Men, Swedish Authorities Blame 'Macho Culture'Do you expect a carpet laid out for you when you get home from work? Said in response to workplace deaths. There's that maternal compassion. I wonder if you have the same attitude towards women working in the lower level jobs. Blaming women dying in the workplace on "toxic femininity"? Talk about projection. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/18 11:29 AM |
| 2 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceAnd how is this any better? It's better because we're bringing discrimination to attention - you know, the thing that you'd expect a movement for equality to do. It has the nice side-effect of showing feminists' silence on the matter to reveal that they're just sexists. Have you thought about that maybe just maybe we should change tactics if we want to win this thing? This kind of complaint comes a lot from uninformed people. You just don't understand the situation we're in and what kind of para… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/18 09:16 AM |
| 2 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceI am ignoring it. I don't care about implications because they serve no purpose. This is so short sighted. What's wrong with sexism then? When it doesn't "serve a purpose" you don't care. Again, I bring up the issue of what message this sends to boys - that their lives are less worth because they're male. Do you really not think that will have negative consequences? Come on. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/18 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceThat's quite likely. We had a lot of this in the early days of the sub. After implementing a bot that copied post text automatically for a few years, that got better. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/18 08:38 AM |
| 3 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceYou're dodging the point. Again, it's about the implication that women's safety is more important than men's. What people seem to miss these are "Preferential parking spots" it's not against the law to use them as a man Depends on the parking lot. If it's openly accessible then public traffic regulations apply. But if it's behind a barrier (where you need a ticket for example) as many are, then it's private property and the owner can implement their own rules. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/18 08:34 AM |
| 11 | Danica Patrick stands up for boys at Indy 500 Victory CelebrationLol the guy: DP:"and boys, let's not leave them out" Guy:*well yeah that too but...[stumbles]" Who said you need to finish a sentence to tell us exactly what you think? Just leave it at "but" and rely on people to fill in the rest with "toxic masculinity", "patriarchy" or just "penis" depending on their particular brand of tradcuckinism. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 09:38 PM |
| 4 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceDoes it reply to anything? | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 08:39 PM |
| 7 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceStopped reading after "somebody didn't get laid" - the cheapest of all shots. I thought I'd seen it all but you're the best I've seen in the race to the bottom. Perhaps somebody neglected to tell you that The Losing Edge was not meant to be self-help advice :D Now I'll know to stop reading after "Stein_Hakase_92". | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 08:34 PM |
| 11 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceYou gave this poor guy so many downvotes just for saying his opinion. What happened to free speech. Holy fuck talk about twisting the concept of free speech into an infantile abomination of self-gratification. You did the same thing to him as every women did to you in the past. Just when I thought your comment couldn't get any worse. Projecting much? Yes of course. People downvoting a comment is "projection". Tell me, do you know the meanings of any of the words you've learned to throw around? J… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 07:54 PM |
| 12 | Female drivers get their own special bays in Perth (Australia) city car parking - directly next to the entranceIt's the implication dude. Men are at greater risk but women get extra protection nonetheless. The message is: women's lives are far more valuable. You don't think that's a big deal? Then imagine yourself explaining this to a 4 year old boy. Then get back to me about having bigger fish to fry. We should focus on more important stuff like the sentencing gap and child custody inequality You think those aren't symptoms of the same problem? | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Is feminism mis-represented?I learned early on, from an experience in r/ Feminisms years ago, when I was new to reddit to avoid heavily moderated places. It seems r/changemyview is different that way. They moderate pretty strictly but it's completely neutral and not tied to opinions making it a great place to get into it with some feminists where they don't benefit from censorship. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesArguing in generalities is easy. And sufficient if extensive enough. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesNot witty | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesWhat double standard was applied to this fat bitch? That's right, the correct answer is none. The same that's applied generally. The criminal justice system is massively biased towards women and even more so towards mothers. There's no way that wouldn't have benefited her. That's how you wind up with a fucked up psycho stabbing their own son and claiming he deserved it: years of not being held accountable and saying everybody else is at fault. The very thing that's consistently done with women a… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesyou just want to send everyone to the gallows. When you have to blatantly lie like this, it's high time to question your motivations. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 01:07 PM |
| 2 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesOh fuck off. This pathetic concern trolling has become so predictable. Comments like yours are like becoming background noise at this point. The point, moron, is that there's a double standard which permits women to do a lot more harm and therefore endangers those left in their custody who are vulnerable. I can just say, "Another case of men's violence against girls". Who is claiming that men aren't violent or that their violence is just toxic femininity or women's fault? If that was the common … | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesFuck this shit. This is just too much An Oregon mother told police her 6-year-old son “deserved it” after she used a knife to inflict life-threatening injuries on the boy Sounds familiar. Only normally it's adult men who have the "privilege" of deserving every vile act inflicted upon them. The boy was initially “fighting for his life,” ... He suffered six stab wounds to his body — one of which possibly struck his liver and lung — and a deep cut to his chin. 6 YEARS OLD!!!!!! Just let that sink i… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Woman, who previously spent only 30 days in jail for assault, is again in the news for stabbing her 6-year-old son multiples timesThen they'd do the same with men. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/18 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Jordan P. explains why you shouldn't blindly believe women. Being weaker than men, gossip, innuendo and reputation destruction is their only recourse & agression outlet.Jesus Christ it's absolutely not right to put kittens in a microwave. Stop making such disgusting suggestions. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/18 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Is feminism mis-represented?If it was ever about equality, feminists would have promoted women taking on male responsibilities and having women prove their value (just like men did). And society would have followed easily. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/18 08:15 PM |
| 36 | Jordan Peterson is everywhere right now, and that's a good thingthey showed poor Americans disrespecting Reagan who was speaking on tv in the shot or something. The take away wasnt "yeah fuck Reagan!" But instead "....wait, poor people in America have TV's in their house?" Haha love it. Yeah there are so many stories like that from communist regimes. Somebody should make a compilation of involuntary comedy from them. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/18 09:42 PM |
| 149 | Jordan Peterson is everywhere right now, and that's a good thingMore than anything else, his steamrolling over the mainstream media has revealed not even so much how dishonest they are but mostly how isolated they reside in their ideological bubble, blissfully ignorant of what's going on. I guess abandoning critical thought has that effect on a community. And they wind up voluntarily publishing the full interview with Cathy Newman thinking it wen't ok, not realizing how drastically different it would be perceived by their audience. When you leave somebody in… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/18 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Roy Baumeister deconstructs feminist theory in just a few paragraphsI have never felt that way Me neither. That doesn't invalidate the trend. Also, there are indirect incentives pertaining to reproduction that affect pretty much all men whether they think they affect them or not (such as status). Perhaps it is taught behaviour? Is wanting food also taught behavior? Keep in mind what we are: an organism whose existence is 100% dependent on 1) reproduction and 2) survival. And 2) isn't even as important so long as you make it long enough to achieve 1). Which is wh… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/18 04:56 AM |
| 2 | feminist argues that imprisonment of women should be abolished because they face inequalitiesBut they think men can "learn from the experience". Male privilege 101 | /r/MensRights | 24/05/18 10:00 PM |
| 3 | Pewdiepie's current drama with "twitch streamer" Alinity only further highlights that some women will use their sex appeal for any sort of gain, not just financial. X-postPerhaps you should - ah never mind. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/18 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Pewdiepie's current drama with "twitch streamer" Alinity only further highlights that some women will use their sex appeal for any sort of gain, not just financial. X-postThat's a bright idea. Let the femstream media tell us who represents us and accommodate them by disassociating from whomever they declare to be bad. Or, better still, take responsibility for all the "evil MRAs" like Hitler, Stalin, Voldmort ... I'm sure that'll go well :D | /r/MensRights | 24/05/18 09:39 PM |
| 5 | New Feminist Backed Law Declares All Sex As Rape By Default Unless Stated Otherwise In SwedenNot really. Can you think of any definition of consent that would work in this case and clarify whether most sex is rape or not? All I can think of is written consent forms in the presence of legal witnesses who remain present for the duration of the encounter (or at least CCTV). And we know that most people don't do that, so all of those are potentially rape now as consent cannot be proven. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/18 04:47 AM |
| 7 | New Feminist Backed Law Declares All Sex As Rape By Default Unless Stated Otherwise In SwedenRape convictions compared to reports are disturbingly low What do you mean by "disturbingly low" and what would be a ratio you'd find acceptable? it is unreasonable to presume that the cases that go without a conviction (the vast majority) are false accusations Nobody is doing that though. Not guilty verdicts don't imply false accusation. I do believe they’re more prevalent than most people think, but they’re not that common. Well we don't know the number. We only know the minimum (the number of… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/18 04:41 AM |
| 12 | New Feminist Backed Law Declares All Sex As Rape By Default Unless Stated Otherwise In SwedenBESIDES the fact that the two ideologies have nothing in common They have some things in common though. For one, the vilification of a demographic as the cause for all evil. feminism and nazism cannot compare in any sense if you really think about it. I disagree. Both ideologies call(ed) for the removal or reduction of a demographic. That tends to be something that stands out. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/18 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...So much for "neutral language that has meaning in science". | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 09:52 PM |
| 3 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...If you think they just made that up, I don’t really care. Why are you being so coy about backing up your claim? You presented literally nothing. You want me to back up my skepticism of your claim? One more time: You said "Women are incels at the same rate." then said "My data comes from the CDC." but didn't show us any CDC data. So do you have this data now or not? Try to be honest. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...Don't try to distract from the issue: You said you have data from the CDC. Now it's time to show it. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...He said that feminists don't complain about women being objectified. Why are you telling me that? "Ruthlessly" seems pretty loaded to me. "Ruthless" is quite apt. Let's stick to more neutral language that has meaning in science. Do you understand that natural selection is inherently ruthless? Actually it's the epitome of ruthlessness. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...It's not. You linked to psychologytoday. If you have data from the CDC, then there and make your case. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...That you have to put some effort in yourself to be attractive to anyone (doesnt matter what gender or sexual orientation) is and will be a good thing Why in the world does this keep coming up? Have you seen anyone argue that they should be able to get laid without having to do anything for it? We're talking about those who put in a lot of effort and still don't get laid. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...Women are objectified as well. It's not balanced though. Yes, women are also selected for but not nearly as ruthlessly as men. This is the case in most species btw. Females are the reproductive bottleneck and so it's their decision making that has the greatest impact. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...I think it's projection. Because this is how they feel about sex. They're not familiar with the circumstances men find themselves in where pretty much any kind of affection from a woman must be earned. Their lives are just about picking from the men who line up for them. They don't know anything else and so they cannot empathize at all with men. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 08:49 PM |
| 8 | Unbelievable - Bill Maher panel says men are socialized to be "entitled" then two sentences later said they should "make themselves worthy" of sex...ffs more feminist quackery. Here's a flash: choosing not to have sex is not comparable to not being able to have sex. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/18 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.I thought he wanted to organize society along the line of the lobsters, Cathy. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/18 11:38 AM |
| 0 | Top musical student, 24, accused of raping a fellow undergraduate is cleared by jurors in less than three hoursThe accuser does not remain anonymous in US trials. This is in the UK If they're being tried in a court of law, that's the opposite of mob justice. The public mob is not a court of law. The defendant being anonymous would cause repeated and endless miscarriages of justice. As opposed to the complainant being anonymous? I don't know how I can dumb this down any further. Oh come off it. You haven't even attempted to describe how it would do that. And I'm not even decided on that matter. But you ju… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/18 11:35 AM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.That doesn't mean what you think it means. You need to educate yourself a bit better before presuming to be able to tell what somebody else thinks. Make that a lot better. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.Ask me how I know. How do you know? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.Misogyny is very unusual, especially among men. That's why the word is so effective at shaming somebody. Unlike misandry... | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 08:52 PM |
| 3 | Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.Calm down. He's not advocating making the pill illegal. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.Peterson thinks monogomy should be enforced Aha. Where did he say that? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 08:46 PM |
| 5 | Men can't multitask? That's a myth: Birmingham City Council warn staff not to repeat 'sexist' claimNobody can multitask. Unless you include lizard brain functions like breathing as a "task" - or feminism ;) | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 08:17 PM |
| 7 | Let’s start talking about toxic femininityFeminism isn't about who has it harder in the universal scheme of things. Yet saying women have it harder was exactly your response to the contradiction of calling it "feminism". It's about the way people treat one another. Then why call it "feminism"? Weren't gendered words like that an example of sexism? Then why is the solution to the injustice named after women? And the cause of the injustice named after men? Turning it in to a competition of who has it harder does nothing Except "women have… | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 11:51 AM |
| 11 | Let’s start talking about toxic femininityPlease, if you wanna go back to the beginning it was even worse Yes, men were under greater hardship than women and under greater evolutionary selection pressure as evidenced by DNA testing and sexual dimorphism. before we developed morality and men would overpower and subjugate as a rule. Then men were those who developed this morality. You can't have it both ways. If men are the "class" who "ruled", then it is they who are responsible for all the improvements in the last 4000 years. Name one t… | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Questions for left-leaning MRAsI see you don't agree with what I said. Nothing in my comment suggests that I agree or disagree and you know it. You're just trying to spin it that way so you can attack my character. You have tunnel vision and won't acknowledge that not every man/woman dynamic is the same. Also not true. But do go on about how I'm bad if that helps you forget about the issue. Sorry, but this isn't your own personal echo chamber. Other people have valid points of view to share. More sanctimony. No substance what… | /r/MensRights | 20/05/18 07:22 AM |
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