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Misunderstood I never said they are less but men don't have to settle for less than their own perceived value in dating. If they don't want to date a single mom out of preference it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:44 PM
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Single mothers can have these standards but so can men so don't expect men to settle for less either and if that means most men don't date single mothers it shouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:30 PM
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Personally single moms are not for me and it's not advisable for the average man but as long as a man understands what he is getting into then it's alright it can work for some men but a minority I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:11 AM
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I think most women find most men unattractive cause at some point boundaries have to be pushed to progress it further from a friendship and as a guy you are expected to lead so at some point you do have to initiate if you want things to progress otherwise it's a glorified friendship essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:47 PM
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Nice guys finish last because the world is harsh especially attraction so you can be a cool guy but if you aren't feeling it you can't force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:36 PM
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The juice ain't worth the squeeze as the current environment isn't conducive to picking up chicks it's high risk for an average men as you can get called a creep and kicked out of venues potentially. I think dating apps are safer for men in the west but that's my opinion anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:26 PM
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It's zero for me It's not the method I use for dating I tend to stick to the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:34 PM
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That's a harsh truth but I completely agree as you would much rather be the guy she naturally desires over the one she takes months to develop that attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:02 AM
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Fair enough who for you represents a masculine man that was my point because it even confuses me since many people have different views on this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:11 PM
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It does spark an interesting debate on masculinity as no one can really pinpoint what that means and it seems to me in the online space people have very different views on what it means to be masculine whether that be physically masculine protector or a stoic man that does overtime and provides for his woman. Giving examples does Trump or Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate represent the masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:58 PM
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Fair enough I think that's rare nowadays as in my area pubs and clubs are closing as not many people go out as much as they did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:46 AM
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I agree you should be authentic and improve for yourself not to impress others as it's always a losing sum game you will always be chasing and looking desperate you should never give someone that power over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:04 PM
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If we remove sex woman have nothing to give
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:00 PM
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Sounds alright maybe for a year or two sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:59 PM
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Yer I don't advocate cold approaches not in the modern times with the current climate especially in the west but in other countries it could work like the passport bros. I think warm approaches and dating apps are probably the best bet for the average man in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:58 PM
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Once you start working you have less time than you would at college or uni and I agree in general sentiment however once you start working life it's hard to maintain as people move on with their lives eg move for work so it becomes hard to maintain friendships and my general point still stands people would rather stay at home get that easy dopamine fix than meet people it's the current culture with gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:52 PM
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I agree with other replies that this applies to people who have mates or at the stage of life where you are at college or university but when you start work life that is rare and unlikely to happen and I don't think things will get better in the future either the issue is probably technology people get the dopamine there instead of meeting people in real life which can be a hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:26 PM
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Probably true because they have more confidence than the guys who are too scared to approach which is a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:10 PM
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Because that has to be established after getting to know each other for months whether that person deserves it not from the outset when they can use you as a bag and not care about you at all that's very simpy behaviour to start like that from the outset.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:07 PM
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The hot woman as the attraction for me has to be there otherwise what is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:10 PM
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I'm glad I live in a country where escorts are legal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:09 PM
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I never said I blame women for judging it's natural as they need a man they can trust and has strength but with guy mates you aren't dating them for the long term or marriage it's a completely different dynamic a friendship between dating when you aren't trying to impress the other person. You are also more likely to relate to men on issues if you are a man yourself which is another benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:34 PM
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The problem you have is that men are judged harshly for showing emotion especially by the opposite sex as typically women want a leader. I actually agree with the red pill talking point here that it's better to open up to other guys than it is to girls as they seem to judge you negatively and not consider you as a partner if you seem too emotional so it's best when dating to keep a stoic front and be grounded with women but find those male friends that got your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:42 PM
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In the current climate you don't really have many options for meeting as cold approach is dead people suggest warm approaches but that takes a lot of time to build up for it to potentially not work anyway so many men have limited options besides dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:37 PM
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I agree it's up to the individual to improve themselves but the problem is everything reaches a plateau eventually so I think the better idea is to try and learn to be happy being alone and if you come across a partner great but if it doesn't happen just try and enjoy other areas of your life. I don't think it's possible for every guy even if they made themselves more desirable to get a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:15 PM
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I'm not saying women have too and never made that argument but the consequence of being undesirable can lead to loneliness and depression. This can be aided by encouraging men to fulfill other hobbies and find groups where they can develop friendships even with other women. Trying to give tools to men to better deal with those feelings of loneliness and sadness. I don't understand why you are so against this to be honest it's crazy and I'd even advocate the same for women cause some can even str…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:11 PM
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How the hell are undesirable men privileged that's an insane take and besides that I think both sexes should be entitled to help with their own unique issues it's absolutely crazy that you feel these men don't deserve any support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:05 PM
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I think especially now people are more afraid of each other and it's easier to connect online than in person due to financial constraints and the political environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:24 PM
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I agree with this also and probably doesn't help that a lot of men aren't in the financial situation to start a family so will be less attractive as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:56 PM
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Well loneliness from a lack of success can be a problem for any male so it's a shared experience even if women feel this way it's a shared human experience and I think women usually have better support systems for dealing with loneliness due to a lack of dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:27 PM
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But if it's an issue facing a large amount of men it does become a male problem look at incels for example they are probably a mix of all races and that is seen as a problem by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:12 PM
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I completely agree that men are not owed sex but what does become a male issue is the loneliness around that lack of success as it's very hard even for both sexes. I think men just need better role models and I can understand why you don't personally care about it but it doesn't mean as a society we should just leave them to rot. We should be creating better social systems to help these people who feel disenfranchised.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:22 AM
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Completely agree you need dating experience as well as grinding. The lack of experience turns into a negative against a guy if he is in his thirties and doesn't know what he is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:11 AM
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The issue with this advice is this usually never ends for most people the grind never stops till you retire like going to the gym and making money. All that changes is that you have less energy when you are older to bring to that grind. I think whilst grinding you should be dating at the same time to build experience as the lack of dating experience is also a negative as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:08 AM
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I guess so but it seems more common with older couples I think I don't really see many young couples in my area and I'm from the UK. It just seems like it's the new norm to meet online as third spaces such as pubs are shutting down so it's hard to meet people unless you are still in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:36 PM
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I guess so but it seems more common with older couples I think I don't really see many young couples in my area and I'm from the UK. It just seems like it's the new norm to meet online as third spaces such as pubs are shutting down so it's hard to meet people unless you are still in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:36 PM
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Completely agree with everything here some people define their self worth around the success they get with women which is also another problem not getting too obsessed over the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:44 PM
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I think that's definitely possible but with modern dating dynamics most average men are overlooked especially with online dating so I still think most average men or below don't stand a chance unless men can become more attractive in the eyes of women or women adjust their standards and going forward I don't think either will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:37 PM
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I think it's how people deal with being lonely and usually men are not good at dealing with this hence why you get that hate when women usually have better support systems in place but you get in on both sides loneliness builds resentment then anger/hate unless you channel that energy elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:23 PM
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It's a fair point but I think that the problem is an average woman doesn't find the average man attractive and especially if they are under 30 they would rather be alone than be with a partner they feel is subpar so average to below men don't have much of a chance or options with woman anyway regardless of the point you made, it won't magically change the results they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:06 PM
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That's all cool but I don't think I will date a single mother still.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:02 AM
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But we are talking about the average man not individual circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:37 PM
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I think so if you are in Europe or the UK and you are an average man or below but the laws in the US I wouldn't recommend there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:05 PM
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I don't have this so nope I haven't got many alternatives unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:41 AM
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It's hard for me I guess because I don't know very many women like I go to the gym but you get called a creep in that environment so you don't have many alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:30 AM
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Completely agree with this take I just worry it's an excuse for the government to clamp down on freedoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:15 PM
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Even though most women say they don't participate in hookup culture, the average women can if she wanted now if we look at men, the majority of men apart from roughly the top 20% can participate as women only want these men. So most men don't even have the options or choice so this only applies to women and top tier men. So relationships probably seem short term as these top tier men run the field and can go through multiple women whilst these women hold out for these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:07 PM
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I would give her a chance but try and nudge her to change her hygiene habits otherwise I would date her short not for long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:02 PM
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I only really use dating apps as I find cold approaches risky. Regarding women I know I tend to not date girls I work with so on dating apps I've asked a couple of girls out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:59 PM
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You are thinking that men and women value the same things when it comes to dating but this isn't true. Women tend to value the lifestyle a man can bring which usually takes time for a man to build that's why usually slightly older men do better with women than younger men. For men they tend to value beauty and for women that diminishes as they age so usually women will have less options as they get older and this is the opposite with men as they become more attractive with age to women up to a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:09 PM
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Finally a black pill take from a woman based
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:04 PM
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For a long-term relationship I agree with you but not for short term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:42 AM
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I think that's probably because a guy who is wealthy has most likely the better options on average over the poor guy leaving more undesirable long term partners for poor guys. Regarding the longer life expectancy I think marriage is probably minimal compared to factors such as diet and quality of life. A rich person is more likely to have better food than a poor person who may eat junk and microwaved meals. Lastly you can have a long term fulfilling relationship without needing to get married an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:28 AM
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Take the escortpill or become a passport bro and focus on your own happiness is my advice I have a similar story to you and as I age Im noticing the same thing with myself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:00 PM
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I strongly disagree, women can appear to be empathetic but women tend to lie more to protect feelings and men are more straight talking. I think women can be just as toxic or even worse. This especially applies to the judgement women can have if you open up about your feelings and that's why it's better to have a group of male friends from the male perspective. Lastly men have to withhold strong emotions such as anger as acting out of control can lead to lots of trouble as on average men are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:53 PM
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It's much easier for women to have sex because men desire it so it's used as a bargaining chip to attract the top range of men in most cases. In regards to sharing the men I think that tends to be true with younger women who play the field and get experience in college or university but I think as a women gets older they usually want to try to lock something down with one person this usually coincides with a woman declining in looks so they tend to have less options as they get older. As men age…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:39 PM
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My problem with what you are saying is that the initial attraction gets you in the door so you can't just lean on these hobbies. If she is not attracted to you and you do your shared hobby, it is basically a glorified friendship. Men should just stick to the hobbies they actually have an interest in instead of pretending to like something you really don't just to get girls. My general advice is to find the people that have a common hobby with you as that's more authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:47 PM
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Fair play for cold approaching as I wouldn't personally do that myself and you can gain better social experience. I tend to stick just to dating apps as I don't think the risk of being called a creep is worth the reward unless it's a bar or club.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:59 AM
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It's hard to describe with one word but I think that's fine I don't think it makes he desperate she is just shooting her shot I have a neutral sort of stance on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:56 AM
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For me personally I wouldn't lose respect for her as I don't hold much value in my partner getting into fights. I value different things in her than fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:53 AM
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My point still stands though it's okay if you disagree but you haven't given an argument yet to the point I made above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:22 AM
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But my point still stands I think you don't deserve anything you can improve yourself but that doesn't mean you deserve a partner, that partner has to make the decision to choose you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:08 AM
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"Everyone deserves to be with someone who respects them and who they're compatible with..." This is incorrect you actually are not entitled to anything and women let men know this and this goes both ways you are not entitled to a relationship or anything from another person besides a base level of respect. I also think women should improve themselves and not be doing it just for men, The same goes in reverse. Regarding men being told they are too picky, well who gives a damn about that opinion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:53 AM
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I think options 1 and 2 are the most realistic because I can never see women lowering their standards as I think most would rather be alone than be with a guy they don't truly want to be with and the 4th option seems dystopian about the structure of society changing which I also don't see happening. Today most men have got to either improve or get left behind and learn to find happiness in other ways. I don't think there is anything we can do to change the standards women have in this modern wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:02 PM
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When it comes to casual sexual partners men are definitely less picky so a high value status guy would be choosing average girls or higher it obviously depends on the guys sexual drive. Regarding your experience I think these men would choose the women from indicators of interest, high value guys such as chads usually have options whether it is from tinder or so on so they won't be chasing unless the woman is extremely attractive. This is why they probably don't approach you as you would have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:46 PM
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I think it's complicated and dependent on the stage of life the man is currently passing. For instance, most young men under 25 want to have fun and play the field because they want to have experience and a time in life for trial and error the same could actually be said for women as well. As men get older past 25 usually they start focusing on career and stability so will tend to look for long-term partners. This has been the trend for decades This is where things are changing in my opinion due…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:59 AM
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I still think she will get more attention than the ugly guy who is most likely invisible so that is the reason why men think females have privilege when dating because it's clear the average woman has many more options than the average man when comparing at roughly the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:41 AM
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I think the average guy has low standards for getting sex from a woman however for relationships I think the standards tend to be higher as it's an investment of time and resources as a short term fling is about the sex only.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:09 PM
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If you define marrying a girl that's been with many people sure but I'm not sure if it's really winning if you have a close to 50% divorce rate and risk losing half your shit but each to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 04:04 AM
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I agree it's almost like a shit test when they say they want you to be emotional with them and you do open up they will judge you harshly that's why it's better to get advice and open up to men than to women. From my experience most girls want the bad boy or stoic guy it's rare for them to be accepting of an emotional guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:58 AM
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It's much cheaper in Europe where I live and you can find a nice looking one for decent value. I imagine in the USA it's messed up because it's illegal in most states besides Nevada unless you classify it as a porn movie then it's no problem for some reason. I think for the young men that struggle with dating it's a decent alternative you get to have sex with girls you probably didn't have a chance with so I see it as a win win and let's face it dating is usually transactional for most anyway as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:10 AM
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This will come off controversial but I actually agree as it's very direct and at least you know what you are getting out of it. With dating however from my anecdotal experience people play a lot of games with you wanting to use you as a free meal or a shopping trip ect not many people are actually genuine about what they actually want from you and then have very high standards this is especially so if you are average or below good looking. This is coming from someone who has been in a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:35 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:49 AM
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You forgot about being a passport bruh and the ease at which you can travel to different countries like Nigeria is having a population boom so you can just travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:47 AM
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This is very true and that is why dating is complicated because what works for some people won't work for all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:46 AM
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I've slept with many escorts and if my SO asked I would tell them but it's not like I would go out of my way either to announce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:44 AM
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Not much can be done in a realistic sense, the only small change that can be made is through education and lifting people out of poverty and giving people a reason to be a member of society. I agree with other comments that you would have to create a dystopian world to have a dramatic change in the number of murderers, rapists and criminals that would have a negative impact on freedoms we all enjoy in the west today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:51 AM
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It depends on the man but in generalities I think the average man has a low amount of options so would prefer a more traditional woman as they don't have the options Chad does. I think the average man is probably content with one partner having loyalty with them and showing loyalty in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:39 AM
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A woman may have a lower sex drive than a man so sexual compatibility is important as yes men might have an easier time achieving an orgasm but if the girl doesn't want to have sex it ain't happening so it's best to have matching sex drives otherwise one partner may feel unfulfilled and this can apply to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:21 AM
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For me personally I think marriage is a raw deal for men and you can have monogamous relationships without involving the state so I don't understand the hype on getting married. If you detach the legal paper and stay in a long term relationship surely you will still get the benefit of living longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:17 PM
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I don't think that's true in most cases. I think in bars or clubs maybe but not in the gym or at work as you don't want to risk coming across as a creep. It's usually better if you get small choosing signals such as a girl smiling at you for example before making an approach and be sure that she actually wants to be approached and is not wearing headphones for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:41 PM
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I think it's obviously an extreme example of the police being called on you however I wouldn't cold approach random women because of the way society and you being called a creep and so on. I think you probably have dating apps and third places such as bars/clubs but I personally wouldn't risk it anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:33 AM
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Agree with many comments here that as an average guy on dating apps you're lucky if you can get one date a month and it's likely to be in scarcity with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:32 PM
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It depends on the man but I would much rather be alone than be in an abusive relationship with a woman. I guess it's male desperation for love that some would be willing to subject themselves to abuse but it's also about having self respect and love for yourself to not be treated that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:30 PM
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It's not that they are not worthy but it's just that on average they are unattractive compared with female adults who are younger. You will be more likely to find attractive girls in the 20-25 range than in the 30-35 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:27 PM
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As long as it's between two consenting adults I don't see a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:22 PM
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I don't take the risk personally in these modern times. I think it's safer to use online dating even if it's more difficult to get results. I think women aren't even attracted to most men I forgot the specific study but it's not worth it unless you have the status I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:18 PM
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I don't think it has anything to do with intelligence, it's a bizarre statement I don't understand how you correlate intelligence with the amount of sex you have. You can judge someone for having lots of sex or not it comes down to personal preference not intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:17 PM
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This is complicated as it depends on a persons preference around how much they value sex as men I don't think would care about being lied to for sex but obviously means more to women as it's much easier for them to get sex. I do think it's best for both sexes to be upfront about what they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:10 PM
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It's not new that women have much higher standards for men than the reverse especially when it comes to sex but for long term relationships women have struggled to keep these high value men. I agree even if women did approach most men wouldn't be picked and I know the 80/20 rule has been disputed but the general idea is correct for female partner selection most only want the top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:16 PM
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Well you shouldn't be the slave of society and it's norms you seek what makes you happy even if it pisses people off if it doesn't harm others why should you care what other people think about your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:11 PM
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I think a man won't be controlling if he has options and interest as well but if he hasn't built anything then you would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:02 PM
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I don't think women gain more sexual attraction as they get older especially past 35 whilst the man has growing resources so is more likely to equally pull I think. I also think it hinges on the mans success and what he has built and become like if he has had a career as a pilot for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:59 PM
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Happy to be from the European continent sorry Americans
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:53 PM
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I completely agree but that feeling of wanting a partner won't change for the average guy unless he is asexual so that pain will exist even if you learn to cope with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:51 PM
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Title me laugh a lot cheers for that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:50 PM
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I would be upfront and honest as hookers do exist so if I was desperate for sex I could just do that. I like to be honest about my intentions and not lie my way into bed. I think that men who do decide to lie are probably thinking with their dick and feel like they have no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:48 PM
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Do you think tinder, hinge and bumble will be banned in the future apps specifically for dating not tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:39 PM
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I don't think it disqualifies him from giving advice on sex but on picking up women for sex or dating potentially if that guy has only had experiences with hookers. You also have to realize a guy can have dating experience whilst also sleeping with hookers so if you are that serious on getting the advice you can ask questions on the type of relationships he has had.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:38 PM
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In my opinion yes I would consider them cucks if they enjoy other men seeing their wife/partner naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:33 PM
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I think men are just venting frustration I don't think most men feel entitled to women. Men who struggle with the changing dating game probably need to find a purpose outside of dating and channel that energy into something positive in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:29 PM
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I don't think it's going to change as technology is a huge part of life and only growing strong with gen z, I think it's only going to get worse and the reason why it's not discussed is because it's just a reality that won't change it's not like the world will give up technology for dating even if apps change like tinder it won't make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:22 PM
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I personally don't think sex work is a problem as long as you have two consenting adults that understand the transaction this applies to all sex workers even men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:16 PM
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Society will judge but you have the choice to not care about that judgement otherwise you just become an NPC. You should try and do what makes you happy as long as it doesn't harm others who cares about what society thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:03 PM
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I think it's subjective and society plays a big role through the media in presenting what is creepy to have some level of shared perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:47 PM
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Cheating happens on both sides of the aisle and I think men with lower status are much less likely to cheat as they don't have the options. We can agree to disagree but I think women on average cheat more because they have more opportunities to do so than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:32 PM
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With the example you gave of Beyonce. She has high status so the pool of men who are equal or above in status are extremely low so her options are limited as it's not like she is going to date a school cleaner for example but in reverse that male with high status has the options as most high value men don't care about a womens status especially in the West but you could argue differently for Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:00 PM
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Glad I'm not American and porn is based you have so much free stuff you don't need other people and you get escorts outside of America legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:26 PM
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I blame the men for being weak and having no self respect to be honest they need to learn to find value in themselves and not be treated like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:24 PM
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Most men don't have any options lol the average man on tinder gets no matches. You are talking about the top percentile of men that can play the field cause they are rare so they don't need to care about those individual women cause they always have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:22 PM
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Life is harsh and never fair. The questions you put forward represent part of the problem but even issues such as the economy and housing crisis play into this as well as technology and social media. It's a complex issue that has many variables that all add up and create the dating problems we have now. It can't be simplified by these questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:17 PM
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I personally don't think it is immoral, it's your personal preference and you shouldn't be shamed out of it by society as it doesn't harm others or is against the law as long as you are upfront about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:10 PM
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The problem is you will always get simps and the men that enjoy the chase. Another problem you have is women won't approach you unless you have a top percentile status so you many average men will just be alone. It's a nice idea but this won't ever become reality for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:07 PM
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I agree at bars and clubs maybe but at work it can be risky but maybe at university or college it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:26 PM
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I'm torn between Mina and Suzy would probably choose Suzy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:05 PM
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I don't know many men at all that cold approach. Dating happens usually online or through third spaces such as work or uni. It can happen sometimes at a bar or club but these establishments seem to be closing in my area. My advice for men is just to be cautious and use dating apps, I personally don't think it's worth the risk of cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:56 AM
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I agree with other comments that this is false information and does not reflect all adult virgin men. In my opinion those sorts of men usually become desperate and try to overcompensate but how do you expect these men to gain experience and become better with women when you tell women to stay away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:51 AM
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Partially correct because men have low standards for sex and simping culture is rampant but men are usually the gatekeepers of long-term relationships and marriage. I think social media has inflated standards of what an average person should be when it was perfectly acceptable in our parents generation. For instance three or four decades back women had less options so were confined to the men in the local community so it was normal for women to date factory workers for example back in the day bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:53 PM
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The problem is the average man is in scarcity so they do not have the options so will get desperate and pay because they have no other choice. They need to try and invest in themselves and improve to meet the current market standards or change the game plan whether it be escorts or focusing on other areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:46 PM
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I find pick up artists cringy and scammy they just want to make money off lonely men and I agree they think that game is most of the package when you need the looks to get in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:41 PM
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I think if she is honest about it upfront yes she will be but I think girls will lie and manipulate the truth to make it seem different to potential partners to marry. It's not like she would be willing to share that information maybe ten years into the marriage she will open up about the party stage of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:37 PM
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Lol it ain't ever going back to the old days. It's going to get much worse I think as most young people use dating apps to meet and it's only growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:35 PM
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Self improvement should be about you not impressing others as you essentially become a slave to other peoples desires which is wrong. You should be doing it for yourself and your own personal growth and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:58 PM
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I think most men don't have many standards for getting sex but for long term relationships and marriage I reckon many do have certain requirements. I think the distinction between long term and short term dating is important here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:08 PM
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Because people perceive it as a rejection of themselves like they have no value in the eyes of that person they just need to understand that other people may value them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:42 PM
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I think it will increase and simping will probably get worse as gen z are glued to tiktok and the Internet so as they grow older it will just be the norm as more people have parasocial relationships, that's my prediction anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:26 PM
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From my experience they tend to like older guys who have built something and want that lifestyle instead of the guys working long hours building something. This is my anecdotal experience maybe it's different from your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:09 PM
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I think most people date within the socioeconomic background but I do think women are more hypergamous than men. A man on average doesn't care about a womens job unless it's an extreme but I'd argue women care much more about a mans income, job and status. Like for example I don't see many women dating a male janitor they will usually say that he is not ambitious enough but flip this I think most men won't mind if the female is a janitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:34 AM
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It's definitely possible but it requires effort on both you and your partner to maintain a healthy lifestyle throughout your life to improve those odds. If you neglect your health then you decrease these chances. I think it applies to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:46 AM
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I tend to agree with many comments here that women say that personality matters and underestimate the looks part. You can even see the decisions of this from dating apps for example when most average men struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:36 AM
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You can't force a date without physical attraction which gets you in the door and then you can display your personality I think both sexes are like this. You can change the personality all you want but it won't change anything if the other person finds them unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:48 PM
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That seems like a terrible idea just. They should probably just hang escorts instead. Gold diggers will just leach but with an escort you understand the transaction and can flip between many.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:43 PM
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"Sexual assistance for the disabled has been around for years here in Germany, and in the neighboring Netherlands. The government pays for the practice by prescription. We're going to hear from the person known as the pioneer of sexual assistance, Nina de Vries. She's from the Netherlands but has been living in Germany, helping disabled people with their sex lives, for years." https://www.dw.com/en/sexual-assistance-for-the-disabled/audio-37143126 This is one of the sources as I have found and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:55 AM
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I agree I do not see anything wrong with it as it's between two consenting adults. Guys tend to be more visual so seek out beauty for relationships and sex whilst girls tend to care more about the protection and resource value a guy can bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:30 PM
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Should of clarified men have higher levels of testosterone so the dynamic of wanting sex is not equal "Testosterone doesn't make men act like simps and seek approval from women. Otherwise celibate monks wouldn't exist." This was the comment I was referring to not my post I was directly responding to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:39 AM
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No I never said this, I said we on average a higher sex drive than women this can be explained with porn for example men watch porn at much higher rates than women. I explained that desperation is what makes men act like simps, they would degrade themselves to get the chance of having sex or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:37 AM
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Should of clarified men have higher levels of testosterone so the dynamic of wanting sex is not equal between the sexes this isn't to say that women don't want sex of course you get some freaks in the sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:12 AM
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I think women don't approach men due to being shy or embarrassed like most men would appreciate it I reckon. Maybe the social stigma I could imagine is the girl could be viewed as easy but I wouldn't say it's a big stigma as like I said most men would love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:17 PM
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This I feel is cringe it should come from a place of wanting to do the right thing instead of doing it to get girls it promotes the wrong message as your essential saying to be a slave to what women want so they like you. It should come from an authentic self instead if that's what you're about. Trying to force things you may not be interested in to get girls won't probably get you the connection you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:09 PM
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Well men are built to procreate so the drive in men is strong it's not something that can be just turned off I mean look how popular porn has become. It's the desperation for that bond and women have an abundance of options that she can pick the best out of a list. That's why paying the prostitutes and living the single life ain't too bad you get cool fun and you ain't a slave to a womens desires and live for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:03 PM
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I completely agree, dating advice should only be taken from well experienced men that can understand the male experience because I've said this before but women can't understand the male experience so they would struggle to emphasize in situations that men could give you solid advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:54 PM
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To be honest this is probably a decent alternative for some men in this current time of dating and you gain more experience and understand what you like with sex and it shouldn't be viewed as shameful as long as it's between two consenting adults I think that's a heavily Americanized view as in Europe it's not viewed so harshly with Amsterdam being famous for its lady shops. An example of this is "In the Netherlands, where sex work is legal, the government offers grant schemes whereby citizens w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:50 PM
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I think in the current environment it would make things easier as men receive a lot of shame if it goes wrong and you can be viewed as a creep. Women do not get shamed to the same level as men in the pursuit of the opposite sex if it goes wrong. Like I think most men won't cold approach women and it will become more common to meet through dating apps in the future is my prediction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:37 PM
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Where I live you don't have many third spaces to meet people like bars and clubs. It's not like I'm gonna approach girls at the gym or work so that's all I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:51 AM
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I think men have lower standards for women in regards to sex but with relationships you possibly could be correct especially if that man wants to start a family fertility is important. As you argued that men don't see how much time and effort is put into a womens appearance, I think you don't understand that men also work hard as well, for example in my gym the majority of them are our men and we have more muscle groups to work to look more attractive to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:25 PM
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I don't cold approach I think it's too risky but I use dating apps. I agree with the general sentiment that it's a numbers game and the more you put yourself the higher chance you have of getting a date. In regards to the third paragraph, a lot of this is due to media perception and porn stereotypes which has a complex history of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:12 PM
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I think you have a big difference with going to a doctor for medical help over the nature of being a man, you don't go to hospital to get experience of being a man. Tell me how you can get the experience of being a man without being one. This seems insane to me. It's the equivalent of saying you understand what it's like to be Nepalese without ever going there in your life it's bonkers it doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:59 PM
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But they could never understand the male experience more than a man even if they could have some empathy I don't believe personally women can understand the male experience. Such as men not understanding what it's like to have a period or give birth as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:44 PM
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This hasn't been my experience maybe they ease the standards slightly but it's not much it seems very similar to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:24 PM
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To be fair I don't think many guys care but for that small percentage that does it's probably a revenge fantasy for the way they have likely been treated with dating is my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:23 PM
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I think for sex on average men could do that with a wide range of women however when it comes to a relationship I think men are much more selective and want the higher quality women in terms of values and beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:20 PM
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I don't think that's true at all because women cannot grasp the male dynamic of dating and the struggles that are unique to men. It's much better to get dating advice from an experienced guy than women because a woman literally can't understand the male experience the same goes in reverse. As for wingmen however I think women are the best for a guy as it's preselection which will lower the guard of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:10 PM
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That's an interesting perspective and hits at the fact that men should probably do those self improvement things for themselves instead of doing it just for women as for some women it won't ever be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:05 PM
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I think it's women framing the facts that way as a coping mechanism to deal with the truth. I don't think they should be demeaned but you can't deny the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:04 PM
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The issue is you need to get the initial attraction which requires the looks, status or money and then you can use your social skills to charm but if she isn't attracted to you, not much your social skills can do in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:43 PM
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The immediate effect- the simps right now would be the chads of society and getting laid. The long-term effect-Men would start adopting simping as a strategy and that would be taught as the way to get women. Guys would probably be innovating on the simping as guys are naturally competitive to get the highest quality woman. Probably get much more people having sex so Stds and unwanted pregnancies would rise. Pros for men- it's not hard to be a simp it's pretty simple so it wouldn't be so hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:05 PM
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I think those men don't care it's usually the guys that have limited wealth being fearful. If you are a sugar daddy you know the trade-off you are getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:36 PM
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Most of the people married are old not young, at this current time not many young people are getting married. That seems to be the trend
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:18 PM
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A majority of Millennials are not currently married, marking a significant change from past generations. Only 44% of Millennials were married in 2019, compared with 53% of Gen Xers, 61% of Boomers and 81% of Silents at a comparable age. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/05/27/as-millennials-near-40-theyre-approaching-family-life-differently-than-previous-generations/#:~:text=A%20majority%20of%20Millennials%20are,Silents%20at%20a%20comparable%20age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:16 PM
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Never said all of them are but you forget the boomers and gen x who got married when the average man in that time was deemed good enough before the Internet existed and those two groups probably make up the majority of the population you can also include the silent generation.Woman had much less choice without the Internet and probably dated within the local communities they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:11 PM
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It just doesn't seem to be that way from my own experience and studies which show an age group of 18-30 year old men struggling with social connections and dating. I see a huge shift towards online dating where average men don't stand a chance and third spaces where it's normal to interact with the opposite gender such as pubs closing down. Everything seems to be showing the opposite to me and only seems to be getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:59 PM
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Yer that probably seems extreme I would have guessed maybe 40s but what you are missing is the status and resources a man builds over the decades and the life he can give a woman. I think especially these days when materialism is worshipped that will attract many women over a guy just trying to build a life. Women usually want the end result of what that man has become over the man building himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:41 PM
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I think a mans confidence plays a big part in this as I've noticed women get afraid of awkward men but if you have a level of charm and decent social skills basically that can be disarmed. I believe it's how a man comes across with women and I don't think height or size play that much of a role if you make a women feel comfortable. I think height and size play a role in initial meetings if you are a stranger to that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:32 PM
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I think this is because on average men don't handle loneliness very well they self delete at higher rates than women and struggle to be alone on average more than women who tend to have stronger social support for each other compared with men. I agree with your general point however I think that desperation comes from loneliness so they make irrational decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:07 PM
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I think the problem you have is with social media and the attention girls can get from desperate men it's easy to get an overinflated ego if you are getting likes which in turn raises the standards for that woman. I don't think it's about socioeconomics as pretty much everyone is on social media nowadays and it's probably easy for a girl from a poor background to get attention if she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:56 PM
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I think it's rough especially in this modern age when we have a huge shift towards online dating and no third spaces for people to hang out in well specifically with the economy many people not being able to afford to do many things. I think an average guy could potentially ask friends or family for a setup to get dates as this is more likely than the results the average guy gets from online dating when it's probably one date every three months if you are lucky. Not to be a doomer but I only see…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:49 PM
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I think men on average have a higher drive for sex and novelty specifically than women so I could only really tell you that men will have a higher percentage but even a rough ball park is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:41 PM
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I think women and men can be friends but it's rare because friendships rely on common interests like I don't know why you would be friends with someone you did not enjoy the time together over a shared event or common interests. I think women tend to have vastly different interests to men on average. Like most women I encounter aren't into sports as men are and in the reverse most men probably aren't into things women enjoy like shopping and fashion for example this isn't to say no man is into t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:01 PM
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Not trying to be mean but this sounds like one huge cope. On average I think guys would prefer to date girls in their twenties because they tend to be more attractive. Most guys do not care about how much money a girl makes unless it's an extreme case. Not to be dumping on women this also happens in reverse when women tend to date more mature guys that are usually more experienced and have more resources. It usually takes time for a man to come into his own and sometimes that doesn't even happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:36 PM
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I think it matters especially when you are starting a family and the girl gets pregnant. She wants to be sure you are able to provide if she is out of the workforce other than that I guess it's also natural for a woman to want a partner that can provide her with a certain lifestyle, I'm not saying it's the most important thing but it's an important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:50 AM
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Social status is defined as this "a person's standing or importance in relation to other people within a society."I agree with the other comment that this is relative to the people around you for instance consider a university professor. In an academic setting, a professor might hold a high social status due to their expertise, education, and position. Students, colleagues, and academic institutions typically regard professors with respect and esteem. However, if the same professor attends a hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:02 PM
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The only issue I have with this is that it's subjective so are we suppose to conform to what other people think is interesting or do you believe you should just be naturally who you are and be unashamed about it. This is in regards to personality. An example of this is I've been called boring for not liking certain music but if you are into sports and fitness is that boring. The true advice I think should be to find people that match your personality and interests. I guess this relates to person…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:34 PM
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Completely agree with this comment, how you are viewed by society is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:24 PM
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I think in general women perceive sex differently to men when we could bang many, women want an emotional connection with that person unless you are in the top 1-10% of men that can offer her what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:02 PM
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The dating game is changing so fast that's the issue like with only fans and the promotion of using guys on dating apps to sell nudes wasn't so big when tinder first started so the way we use dating apps is starting to change and the dynamics around it so advice from even a couple of years ago is redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:58 PM
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Someone just made a post about Western people dating foreigners and it does seem to be the trend that Western men are being passport bros like the most common foreigner partner for a Swedish men is now Thai woman. I don't think it's really an issue dating abroad if it ain't working at home but many people seem mad with the passport bros like it's exploitation when they have even considered that the foreign partner may actually be happy. For me it's cope from many woman as well because you get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:52 PM
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Do you hold this same opinion for Western female sex tourists that visit the Caribbean and Africa
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:44 PM
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I think status is more important than money as you don't need to even chase if you have status but even with money you will be chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:32 PM
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This completely goes against my personal experience when all women have to go off is photos they don't have time to evaluate your personality and after my first line on dating apps most women ghost. I think looks are way more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:32 PM
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They would probably start meeting guys from work or social events but the number of potential mates they could select would decrease dramatically so I guess in essence men would have more options instead of just the top 20% getting all the action
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:26 PM
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I'm a man that rarely approaches and usually sticks to dating apps and never had a bad rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:50 PM
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