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Question For MenJollyBowler2510/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:15 PM
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Question For MenJollyBowler2510/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:35 PM
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I’m confused on what you’re wanting or saying really…. I mean unless you come from a family that does arranged marriages / meet-ups, you’re not going to really be finding someone this way. Through being friends, etc. the friend still has to ask the other friend out. It still all starts with a conversation unless you have a belief of arranged marriages or automatic mating, which no one really wants. Unless you have that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:29 AM
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That is very true. I would say call the cops instead, but they don’t do a lot of good in situations like this either, a lot of times, the perpetrators are put the next night. I
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:25 PM
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I do understand not wanting to call it out, especially if you’re physically there. That’s a fair reservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:17 PM
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Now we’re just being obtuse. It’s not hard to just communicate and when politely asked to help when I as a wife is busy, or if it’s too heavy, or even if we team carry the damn thing to the trash can, it can be done in less than ten minutes, and everyone can go back to what they were doing beforehand. I have fully come to terms that men just want to argue, not even listen to actual conversation or solutions. Same as the men that when we ask them to do something like hang up a tv, take this down,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:28 PM
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And I believe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:43 AM
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No feminism as a whole does not. Radical feminism, yes. Please learn the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:51 AM
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Like I said, If you’re not one, it isn’t for you. Be intelligent enough to read in between the lines. If you’re not hateful towards women, you’re not one. You can go now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:13 AM
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Are you an ignorant, sniveling bastard? If not, then it’s not mean towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:09 AM
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Neither does the original wrong. But happy you’re one of the good ones. I hope you stay that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:04 AM
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It’s not about feminism. It’s about knowing when men are treating women like shit, same way I don’t stay friends with a woman who puts down men as a whole. It’s about being a human being. But that seems to be hard for a lot of you anyways. Thank god for the ones who aren’t ignorant, sniveling bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:02 AM
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What men mostly get mad about is that women hold their attraction standards at a high value and are refusing to come off them (I most certainly won't), but SOME women act like it's a bad thing for men to have their own standards. I for one, vote for everyone to date what they see fit for THEIR LIVES, at the end of the day, men and women alike have to live with it and are the ones who have to be happy in their relationships, which include attraction. My only issue is with anyone who puts people d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:12 PM
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It requires you to care about the person you’re dating. End of. I don’t care about someone’s interests who one, isn’t part of the relationship, and two, isn’t the values I am after. Family is a hit or miss, a lot of times, family’s have their own interests, and should really kick rocks and mind their own businesses. But within your partners family, sure you can care to an extent what they think, but no, my preferences don’t have shit to do with his family or my family’s choices unless I’m active…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:50 PM
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Society as a whole is completely different from the justice system. I said they didn’t CHOOSE to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:47 PM
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I mean, or men could stop raping their friends? Let's put the blame where it actually belongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:34 PM
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I agree, for me it mainly shows they only look at women in a sexual nature, not as anything else. They don't value her as a person, or for her conversation, mutual interests, nothing. It all comes down to sex for a lot of men who don't have women friends. To be honest, I think it's kind of in the best interest of the woman, to ask about the women in his life before she goes on a date or during, and if they don't have female friendships it would be not necessarily a flag, but something to conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:33 PM
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🤣 men didn’t CHOOSE to do anything. But yeah, you keep believing men as a whole are “the good ones.” I spoke my peace, we don’t agree. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:29 PM
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Oh I agree 100%, i feel like we’re definitely at a last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:28 PM
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I said men holding their own, not the justice system, where they “have to.” But even the justice system isn’t perfect. There are still men who get away with this on a daily basis. Rape still isn’t considered a serious concern in multiple cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:26 PM
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I mean, when do men hold their own accountable? They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:57 PM
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I don't want that at the end of the day, truly, but really, what do men expect? If it keeps women safe, I don't know what else they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:56 PM
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They skip over this because when have men ever gave a damn about what happens to women, they're just as cruel to women, so it'll continue to be a cycle. Another reason is men like to act like they have feelings when something doesn't go their way, but don't give a damn when something happens to the women, truly why should women care what happens to men, at all? Have you seen what men do to women, as far as men killing their wives for wanting to leave an unhappy marriage, rape, killing random wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:54 PM
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You go on to the next one, stop trying to coerce people to date you, it's sad, and a little pathetic. Like I said, pay attention to body language, if she looks uncomfortable, back tf away, it's not hard. Apparently, when she starts screaming is the only time men will back the hell off, have some damn respect and go away when she tells you no the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:43 PM
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why should anyone give a damn about what someone thinks about their dating life, especially when they're not apart of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:39 PM
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Well of course, no one is truly "too good" for most people, but it still comes down to attraction and what the person is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:15 AM
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I absolutely do, I'll mention when I notice one who is attractive to whoever I am with, but I also will not interact, if he sees me looking, he could think it's an invitation and I don't want him to think that, I'd much rather fantasize if I am honest. Sounds fucked but, I don't like the possibility of rejections or failure, so I don't try or even let them attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:06 AM
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It depends on the woman to be honest, some women may change their minds, some may be more willing to date someone depending on the day. I however, find it horrible for a man to keep on when I have already said no thank you. I guess the key is, to pay attention to tone and body language, if she seems uncomfortable, back tf off, if she starts getting pissed off because you continue, move tf on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:00 AM
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I personally don't think people should lie, but men have this thing where they're blunt about every little damn thing, and it's not needed, especially when it pertains to feelings. I think white lies where the person asks about how they look, or their weight, or some other opinion that you know damn well is going to hurt their feelings, you have free reign to white lie. I mean if you asked about your size, do you want me to be straight up honest and say, ehh I've seen bigger? No, you don't. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:56 AM
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I mean, if we can get what we want, why should we? Plenty of men are willing to give women what they desire, same for men if each side works for it or achieves the standard each person sets. I personally think dropping your standards makes you more suspect to horrible behavior and horrible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:51 AM
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I agree, you can have any preference you damn well please, just unfortunately the men that don't have those things will come at you for it. It's best to just ignore them and focus on what you want or need. That's what everyone needs to do in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:49 AM
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To be honest, probably not, men in the past were allowed to pick a woman, and women had to put up with it if they wanted a stable life, etc. So no, men really weren't better in the past, I prefer them now, IF they're level-headed, can hold a conversation and aren't in it for their own interests (which is very rare), then I'd prefer now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:48 AM
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Well duh, some women do bad things to men yes, just as some men do bad things to women. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:45 AM
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You don't what women experience, because newsflash, you aren't one. Have a good one. Continue being woe is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:26 PM
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No it wasn't but keep thinking you know everything. Rejection isn't one sided or an experience only men have. Hate to burst your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:21 PM
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Oh they're not, oh my bad, my experience and the women I know's experience, must not count then. But yeah sure you assume everything is right on yours and other men's side of the world, when in fact, no it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:10 PM
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Could've been, or it could just be professor Bob up there who originally posted, if it was, then I do apologize. But, I figured he got it from somewhere, so If I assumed, my bad. My last point stands though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:09 PM
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Have a good day monk. Go argue with someone willing to listen to nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:01 PM
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Yes it does. Don’t like it, fix yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:56 PM
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That’s dating apps for you. Sure he can be burned. But the issue is, when men complain, men in general like to blame women, when it is no one’s fault. Just how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:53 PM
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There’s no proof he’s not anyone’s cup of tea. A dating app is bad for everyone, hell it was awful for me for a good year. Everyone struggles. It ain’t nothing new. But even then, he just has to keep trying. No one HAS to find you attractive, nor should they.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:46 PM
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It may be calling it “playtime” that leads women to believe he’s not looking for a serious relationship. He also won’t be everyone’s cup of tea. Just because you and himself find him attractive doesn’t mean all women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:23 PM
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First off, if you have someone who is jealous of celebrities and tv shows and stuff, you need to leave, because that’s weird. If you don’t want someone jealous don’t date them. I personally wouldn’t be with a man who still has dating apps, or follows a lot of women on insta that he’s obviously talking to or in to, but that’s just me. Us not wanting you interacting with another woman, isn’t the same as you wanting to control us. What we wear isn’t your business, what we post depends on what exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:10 PM
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🤷🏻‍♀️ keep trying. That’s best I can tell you, but to expect women or men for that matter to lower there’s, isn’t realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:55 PM
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You wouldn’t settle for less than what you want, it would also get you to level up to meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:53 PM
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It’s a fair fear, to be honest. Especially with how high of a risk it is to be alone with a man. Women get killed, etc. from being married to them, or being their sister in law (if you seen the new one), or just being friends with them sometimes. So I think the fear is always going to be there to an extent. It’s just something you have to battle, and you either try or you don’t. If they’re still scared, take the loss and move on to the next one. Not every woman gets scared, but a lot do. To be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:58 PM
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That’s what makes it uncomfortable though. I’ve never met a woman that had an issue with them approaching, it’s not taking a hint that gets uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:50 PM
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The only thing that makes things uncomfortable is timing and not backing off when told no. When some men keep on pressuring, yeah at that point I’m going to assume you’re out to get me or something. A simple no, ok thanks, goes a long way. And yeah, unfortunately cold approach doesn’t work with everyone. A lot of women will see it as inconvenient if it’s in a busy setting. Just depends, you can always try, but the key is to back off when told no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:45 PM
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If the fertility rate is that important to people, it takes sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:06 PM
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Because they aren’t wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:42 AM
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Oh look, the pot calling the kettle black. Men do the same thing, and if you keep on having this moronic debate / conversation, you’ll just continue to wallow in your own self pity, because no one actually gives a damn. Find who wants you and be happy. That’s I tell everyone. Keep your standards high, and take the rejection and don’t be rude. End of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:38 AM
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No. Hope this helps. Try having higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:35 AM
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Can’t sell what you don’t have. And a lot of women aren’t lining up to see Bob the builder thrust in to someone… or a plastic doll… or jack off… etc. Maybe if he’s good looking and has abs, but even that is a very big dependent, because I’ve seen men who have done it get made fun of for trying. Gay men have a market. But that’s because that works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:31 AM
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Does being a hateful man-child, who can’t get any pussy, mean op’s claim is credible? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:15 AM
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Damn, you are on some black pill shit. 🤣🤣🤣 “Let’s ask women a question, have no idea what women are like at all, except the extremes, and then tell them they’re wrong, because hey I’m alone and single, so that must mean they’re shallow, enjoy money over love and don’t want intimacy….”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:08 AM
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Seems like you’re getting women mixed up with men. Did you mean to ask men this question? 🤣 because flopped the answer is probably 50% in my experience, because a lot of men don’t truly love their wives, they love sex, and at the end of the day, that’s all they live for, then they wonder why they’re so alone at the end of the day. If you how however, asking women, the answer is most men will. Whether the men also desire the woman back, isn’t the question. The question is will they be desired by …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:04 AM
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Who desires the men isn’t the question is it? Whether it be someone you’re not attracted to or not, doesn’t matter. The question is, how many men will be TRULY DESIRED, and the answer is still MOST. Whether you settle and have sex with someone out of being desperate or wait it out for the person you want, they’re truly desired. Maybe at the end of the day, it isn’t that no one will date you average men, maybe it’s your backwards, rude, f**ked up way of seeing women that makes you alone, and it’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:46 AM
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Has nothing to do with women picking anyone. Most men still have the opportunity to be desired once in their life, dating apps aren’t the only way you find people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:42 AM
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Oh yeah I know, simple conversations make people like the commenters in this Reddit so angry… it’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:03 AM
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Men don’t love women, they are doing what society pressured them in to doing. But you also aren’t describing love at all. Women aren’t pressured by society to do so, so no probably not, but nowadays men wouldn’t either. Who’s sacrificing themselves anymore? Who would ask someone to do that? Just be happy and find someone who cares for you the way you care for them, it isn’t hard, people just choose to make it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:48 PM
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Learn to have choices or keep complaining and keep settling. There are options. Stop bitching just to bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:36 PM
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And neither should settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:25 PM
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I don't have empathy for any of y'all, men or women. No woman should settle, no man should settle. You all need to man up and fix your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:25 PM
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Damn, at the end of the day I just feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:04 PM
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I see your comment for the most part, but no, 20 years ago would've been 2006, so yeah still wouldn't have been my type. But if you want to say the 70's, then possibly I would have to, because women couldn't have credit cards or houses without a man, so we had to do shit we didn't want to, to survive. And that's the kicker, you know that, but if that's what you're wanting to go back to, I'd say you're out of luck my friend. Men are also attracted to "completely unnatural" women, but hey, to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:02 PM
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And you too should “get over it,” because I’m sorry, no woman is settling for mediocre, nor are we having sex with it either. Be alone, or find someone who likes you the way you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:25 PM
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I for one am not settling for someone I don’t like physically, nor would I sleep with him on a nightly basis if he was ugly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:15 PM
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It's not, you just think you're better than 80% of women, which is laughable. If you don't want to date someone thick or curvy, don't. Wait for someone you want. But they have the right to date who wants them as well, and there are men who want thick or curvy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:07 PM
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Well I'm happy for you. But women in relationships where they have to settle for someone they don't find attractive aren't going to prosper good sex or sex at all, sometimes. Resentment is a very big factor in these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:06 PM
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At the end of the day, you're still going to be begging for sex from someone who thinks you look awful and hates you, so why do you want to do that just to not be lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:19 PM
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Maybe so, but again, don't date those women, if they can find men that will date them, what's stopping the men that complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:18 PM
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Exactly, they are just desperate for right now, but then when their wives don't want to have sex with them because they aren't attracted, it'll be back to, why don't women want to have sex? Same with the men that get pissed off when women leave a marriage they aren't happy in, why do you want to stay in a marriage where she hates you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:15 PM
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Yup, but they don't understand that. They want a woman to "desire them" sexually, but then want them to date people they're not attracted to, it doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:03 PM
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What women want is patience (majority of us are not ready to trust you that much), and for it not to be a daily chore, and there to be some romance to the actions. You making it a daily chore, makes us very turned off and unlikely to reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:19 PM
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Ok, you have that right to that opinion. Go say it to women that are actually with those men. I'm not entertaining you putting women down if that's what you're wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:43 AM
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Ok? What does this have to do with anything I said? I wouldn't personally date a man that wasn't attractive JUST because he has money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:37 AM
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Cool, not everyone is the same. Nor are all rich men ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:33 AM
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Oh, no sir. He still has to be attractive, I don't care for money that much. Lol. But, like I said, if I have kids, it is very much a plus. If I don't, we can still have a good life and not struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:29 AM
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Depends on the woman, but a man who has money, for me means my kids (if I decide to have them) don't have to struggle like I did. And if not, It means we can have a good life, it means not wanting or needing for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:15 AM
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Every man has the opportunity to experience it, and I think most do. It’s the extremes people look at that make things like this pop in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:37 PM
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Depends, I think some women get scared and settle quickly. But it's about the same amount of us that know from the start we don't want children at all, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:13 PM
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To be fair, I feel like it's about equal as it's not every woman nor every man, but I do think men blame women more than just accepting it and moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:10 PM
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No shit, it's an option, not the only one, but an option none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:09 PM
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Never said they should, but you asked how someone could work on themselves. I told you, or the option is to be a passport bro or to lower your standards IF you are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:03 PM
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You can get surgery to extend your height to be fair. Or you could go for less attractive women if you're that desperate to have someone. Get fit, get your money up, there are many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:41 PM
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People don't have to agree with something for you to want to do it. In that case none of us would ever do things in spite of what our families think. Passport Bro shit is your business, and if some woman is willing to do it, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:38 PM
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Yup, I tried to talk to a few just to show empathy because of course I want to care for people, but men make it so hard. Especially when all they do is attack and they don't want to actually have a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:36 PM
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Considering eligible bachelors are considered very highly respected and wanted, I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:07 PM
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The problem is they aren't willing to take any woman, so they don't consider the ones that don't want women. They want the women they find attractive to settle and will continue saying "women have outrageous standards" until one settles for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:06 PM
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Yeah not going to agree with that, especially with how we're treated, but you're free to think what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:04 PM
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Because they know how it works and pay attention to what makes their partner feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:43 PM
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We don't orgasm the same way as you all do, penetration doesn't do it for most women, that's why foreplay and oral is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:42 PM
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The crazy thing is, if this was swapped and the man was staying with a financially irresponsible woman, you’d all preach at him to leave, period. No one should be staying with anyone who is genuinely a selfish idiot, who is financially ruining them. Nowadays we as women have to think about ourselves on the very real chance the man we love decides to cheat or leave, us being in debt doesn’t protect us, especially when it’s because of the husband. It’s a large part of the reason women don’t want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:29 PM
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And men only appreciate women when they get sex or they’re their housemaids and child bearers. It’s a double edged sword friend, might as well get used to it and refuse to date until you find someone who doesn’t. None of us appreciate at our most simple unless you find a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:07 PM
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You’re comparing two different things, it’s not remotely the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:00 PM
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Thank god there’s one of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:55 PM
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I do think it depends on their emotions, I only say this because it took one little thing to piss my dad off and make him want to cheat on my mom, it also depends on maturity as well. This is very much true, that's why there's so many Leonardo's out here. But this is still another one that has to do with maturity and how they were raised (a lot of the time). They want their "heir," they dont care how they get it, everyone is expendable and they'll always do what suits them first, nothing more, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:49 PM
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My only situationship was with a girl, and I stayed because I liked her so much, and there was promises of "maybe someday." I'm not going to lie, I think me not believing I deserved better at the time had me stuck, but also, it was the first time I fell for anyone. Honestly, it can be a lot of different for each person. Promises of more, manipulation, low self-esteem. Many different situations honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:41 PM
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Not getting approached every two seconds by randoms. It would be so nice to just exist without being expected to smile, give out my number or reject / not reject someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:32 PM
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Men seem happy doing the same. The beautiful thing is there are individuals in each group that aren't like the few we all get mad at. Stop grouping people together, it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:29 PM
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Finally they can understand something we've been saying.....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:04 AM
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Apps are definitely not all they’re cracked up to be, and in my experience are used mainly to hook up, by a lot of people. So I wouldn’t count what people say about apps. As far as would I. Yes, because I don’t use apps to begin with, but if I did, and this happened to happen, there could be many differences. His confidence could come off better in person than on an app. Pictures may have made him look entirely different on the app than in person. So yes, it absolutely could be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:49 AM
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People are going to assume based on their personal experiences. That much is obvious at this point. Men do the same shit. We know this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:19 PM
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It is pointless. Women aren’t going to change them, and we shouldn’t have to. Men need to be more selective as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:10 PM
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Yes we do. If the man is wealthy and that’s what we want and go after. But majority of the men who average women date and marry, aren’t rich or successful, they’re working a 9 to 5, or a 12 to 12. Just like she does. Stop basing your lives on the outliers and extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:30 PM
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They’ll never understand. In their mind, sex = attraction, they don’t think about everything else. And swear to god we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:28 PM
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False. But you’re not going to understand that. MEN DO NOT DO THESE THINGS FOR WOMEN. We don’t FUCKING LIKE THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:42 AM
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Well god I would hope so. The problem with people like Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgeway, is they pretended to be someone else, this nice, amazing, loving men, and manipulated the women they married and stayed with while doing the killings. Now I’m not going to say they weren’t stupid for not noticing the signs, etc. but many people don’t notice red flags while in a toxic relationship, until it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:39 AM
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Everything 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:24 AM
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Exactly what I said. Men do not care about what we like or want. When we like or want something, they try to change our minds, or change what we like. Men aren’t dressing up for us or going to the gym for us. That’s for them (as it should be) and to impress other men. Same with the cars and clothes and shoes they buy. That’s got nothing to do with women or what we are attracted to or like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:23 AM
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That’s to help them get women, and impress other men. That has nothing to do with what women like or want, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:21 AM
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I’m not disagreeing with you by any means. I can deal and involve myself with stuff a man likes, hell I like comics and video games, but definitely more so if I’m attracted to him and it doesn’t revolve around his entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:24 AM
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Exactly. When have they ever gave a damn about what we want or like? They always try to change it, our minds, or don’t give a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:18 AM
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Again, do men do this for women? They don’t, they revolve around sex, which doesn’t make women want y’all anymore for the record. They don’t learn a damn thing or care about our lives or our wants or what turns us on (obviously), or our interests…. Unless it’s the VERY FEW that date some women. In what way? Change myself? No, absolutely not. Try to indulge in their interests? Sure, depending on what they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:17 AM
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No, not really. I’ve never tried to learn things like that. Why would I want to know anything about a man unless I’m with one? Do men do this for women? Absolutely not, only when they date them. I don’t understand your other question, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:40 AM
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If I’m with him, obviously equal as to how much he cares learning about me. Other than that, not really. But no. I’m not changing myself for the opinion of anyone. That’s the point of finding someone who loves you for you and you love them the same. No, why would I? You don’t go looking for love or anything of that nature, that’s how you get in f**ked up situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:47 AM
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I'm not arguing that men won't have sex with anything. They'll have sex with severely younger than them women if it suits them, along with animals, etc. Women don't because they have higher standards, but they're attacked for it. That is my issue, the victimization men use on themselves to make women seem like the problem, when there is no issue to begin with, they're just lonely and sex crazed so they have to make it everyone else's problem instead of making their standards higher or just being…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:11 PM
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Amen. Nothing else to add, your honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:06 PM
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You completely missed what the hypocrisy was. But thank you for understanding that women don't owe these men anything but human decency and a niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:03 PM
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I can understand that. Really on both sides, everyone just needs to stop blaming whole groups at one time I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:01 PM
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That's fair, and I can understand that. It's not that I have no empathy for them, I do, but it's hard to have empathy when they blame all of women kind, and take no initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:00 PM
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To be fair, I am not in red pill's anything and stay away from them. Lol. This was mainly a post in response to the men that posted about a week ago, that women wouldn't date "people they don't find attractive," and how they don't have any options. My entire point was women deal with the same shit, but apparently it's women's fault they're alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:30 PM
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Emphasis on clown. Just like the man yesterday that told me all women only want "big d**ked studs" on one of the Reddit posts here. And the original op's comment was about if as women, do we think our men have more of a sex drive or about the same as us. I had to tell him that he was more concerned with the size of someone's private area, than any woman I have known ever has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:26 PM
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I'm legitimately talking about this reddit sub and the people on it. Not all men obviously (let me make that clear), but a good majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:23 PM
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I know, I'm about to delete it, it causes me too much stress, even when I want to try and understand. People make life too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:05 PM
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Oh yeah I know. They don't like being seen as objective. They know they are, they know they only look at women for looks, but when we do it, its so damn bad and we're "ruining society."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:03 PM
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I'm not bothered by men not liking anyone. Like who you like. My point is about the hypocrisy, which obviously you're missing. I could ask every guy here the same things about women. How do any of you know anything about what women want, etc. or about the lady on the forum's habits. You don't and that is exactly the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:58 PM
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Lol this is very true. There's two people in particular that find me each time I post (one is here now), and I just like to mess with him, because he's that ass backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:54 PM
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Same thing with the woman, she also could be doing the same thing and she's still getting judged for "being unhealthy and not trying." Women deal with the same thing, whether men want to admit or not. Agree, for both genders. So men should stop being hypocritical and saying women need to change their standards and deal with it, just like women should.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:53 PM
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I'm starting to get that. Lol. I enjoy the ones about interests, but thinking we could come on here and actually have constructive arguments, that was definitely an oversight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:50 PM
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Yup, I never once compared healthy men and obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:49 PM
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That's what I am saying. Every time a man says any woman is attractive, you have people like Certain Pattern up there, who is like, "Stop simping, she's not even all that." I just wish they would go ahead and find their perfect man if they think they're above everyone. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:48 PM
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Disagree. But you have a good day. And thank you for the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:45 PM
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Oh I know. They just can’t admit they’re also objective and wouldn’t date just anyone. That would be too simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:45 PM
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Well majority of people would disagree with you, and this is probably why you’re so unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:44 PM
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I agree. I tried to have empathy a week ago, and help them find a solution but got told it was women’s fault instead. So I just thought I’d make a comparison. But you’re right, I do need to stop caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:43 PM
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Men are definitely broken, especially you. Fix yourself or be alone, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:41 PM
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I agree, I feel the same way about average, overweight men. I just think it's their way to complain and not do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:39 PM
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I also agree, the argument is tiring. It's exhausting to see a man complaining and do nothing to fix it. I just the thought the hypocrisy was ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:38 PM
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I'm complaining about hypocrisy. I don't care about people being shallow. People like who they like at the end of the day. I'm talking about the lonely incels who won't go to the gym, groom themselves, or level up and still expect to be picked by women. And complain, consistently. But will do nothing to fix their options. I would tell a woman the same thing, but it's not women that I see complaining about their options as someone out of shape. I see them asking for advice, as the girl did in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:37 PM
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Everything happens in their heads. I keep telling them therapy helps, but they don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:35 PM
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People who should date who they want, and desire to. Work on yourself, or be alone and happy. Who is to decide who anyones look match is, because not everyone is out for looks, does it help? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:34 PM
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I really dont give a damn if you get pissed off. Your hypocrisy is what pisses me off. Fix yourselves or dont date, those are your choices. And no, no one has empathy for your selfish ass anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:33 PM
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I agree. My point is, you tell this same thing to men, and they want to make excuses. This is where the hypocrisy comes in, because they believe women should choose them "just because", barring the fact they haven't worked on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:32 PM
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Yes, seen it done. But again, this is about the hypocrISY. There are plenty of women these "lonely" men could have, but they choose not to. Why? Because they're NOT ATTRACTED TO THEM. Which is why I find it ironic that these men tell her to get in shape and work on herself (fair), but you tell men this, and it's, "that doesn't work, and women still won't date us, and nothing I ever do can fix it." It's excuses hold you all back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:30 PM
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Amen. They want someone to be control and do their chores for them. That's what they're pissed off at. The women "out of heir league" won't put up with their bullshit unless she's getting something from it too. That's why I laugh when men say they want "to be loved for who they are."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:28 PM
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Not according to the comments. But we're talking about relationships here, and even with just one night stands, so could ugly, obese men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:25 PM
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My relationships works for both of us, and thats all that matters. We both clean, we both cook, we both work. Neither one of us wants children, thank god. Focus on yourself, find who wants you and what you want and stop focusing on on everyone else. Because at the end of the day, men and women all want different things and no one is the same. And no one knows all women or all men. Y'all truly make it harder than it has to be. Not all women want egalitarian relationships, not all men do. Find wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:47 PM
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Spontaneous, romantic things are chores for everyone. If you don’t want to be in a relationship, don’t be in one. That goes for everyone. Use your hand, don’t know what to tell you. You want something, you work for it. If you don’t want actual love and commitment, do not be in a relationship. Period. I don’t think anyone should do something they don’t like. You know what that’s called? Not compatible. The joy is, both parties can go and find someone who is. Imagine that, there are other fish in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:23 PM
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The answer is yes. And that’s part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:32 PM
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Could be laughing to be nice. But it may depend. Like someone below said, it may have nothing to do with you. Things are rough, depending on what people are going through. Is it always the same girl flaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:02 PM
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Is there anything you’re doing or saying that you can think is making them uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:29 PM
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I mean, to be fair, I would ask you both the same questions. Distrust all day long, but leading with distrust isn't going to make relationships work, and that goes for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:30 PM
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A lot aren't, and have relationships. The key is to find someone who doesn't expect that of you, every relationship is different and people expect different things. As said before, men don't love women unconditionally either, so hey, we all have to bring something to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:28 PM
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No. It’s what she wants. That’s her lifestyle. I’m not going to rain on what someone wants my man. Because there’s just as many men that would love a stay at home wife. So that’s their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:35 PM
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Well that is where communication comes in. But everyone is bad at that nowadays. Probably true for some women, I mean yeah, I have a friend that doesn’t give a damn about sex at all, and would be a ok being a stay at home mom if the man made enough and she got to buy things. People are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:19 PM
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I completely agree. I wouldn’t want to have sex with someone just doing it just to do it. That’s why if I don’t desire to, I don’t. Who’s we? I’m not open to anything if I’m not getting pleasure from it, sorry. This whole debate is based on women not desiring men as much as they desire sex. A large argument is men want it more and women won’t do it just because. So your argument is based on what? Women that you met once?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:11 PM
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And most women aren’t going to be open if they don’t desire it. Just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:02 PM
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Well yes, because Henry Cavill is a self-proclaimed nerd, but he also has other interests outside of this, and isn’t a full timer. It’s about balance, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:44 PM
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Depends on the woman and what she finds attractive. I’ve dated a comic book fan before. And as a gamer myself, a gamer that had his priorities in line, wouldn’t be too bad, but I don’t think I could ever date a full time gamer. Casual is fine. And I don’t think I could ever date someone who went to comic cons all the time and dressed up. Don’t know why, I just am not attracted to it. But again, depends on the woman, women aren’t cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:42 PM
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Truly if both people are ok with it, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:35 PM
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Unfortunately. That’s why I’d rather just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:45 PM
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🤣 I’m not much of a body horror person. I hate the substance, but your post had me rolling over laughing, so good job. :) But I agree, the question is so immature in a way, and it’s impossible to think about seriously, without these types of answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:14 PM
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As a woman, and partially answering because I asked him, I feel like me and mine are around about the same, but he probably wants / needs it a little more, but I don’t have to have it quite so much. My thing is, I don’t like feeling like it’s a chore that has to be done every day, then I don’t want to do it. So romantic spontaneity works wonders, but a lot of the time that doesn’t happen, so it doesn’t happen in general. Feeling like it’s a chore will ruin the libido for a woman faster than anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:56 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:49 PM
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I don’t think anyone should be mocked for a fear that they have by any means. But I feel like the worm question is just asking in an immature way I guess. But also, stop asking these questions. Especially when we already know, your partner will lie anyways to get what they want. You’re only going to make yourself upset. I feel like us as women unfortunately put ourselves in uncomfortable situations and deal with it in the end to try and force a happy ending, and truly we have to stop. Just go wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:48 PM
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Yeah I know. It’s unfortunate. You sound like an amazing mom, kudos to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:24 AM
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You said ‘if she wanted to, she would.’ Well ‘we don’t, so we won’t.’ Some of us want to be left alone (not speaking for all women). So leave us and go to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:17 AM
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So now do men understand why women don’t come out about their rapes? Because of things like this, or a man getting no time? So I’m going to hit you all with same thing you do women. What proof did he have? Does he have any? What if they are false? Why should her career and life be ruined? Why didn’t he speak up earlier? What was he wearing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:11 AM
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Jesus, I would trade places any day. Sign me up to be left tf alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:35 AM
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“Maybe it’s Maybelline” or maybe it’s both….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:34 AM
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Well yes, a lack of confidence does usually deter a woman from a relationship. The violent misogynists a lot of times, aren’t violent and misogynists up front, they manipulate you first. Not that I agree with either one. I really wish women would stop entertaining either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:31 AM
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Then don’t date those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:29 AM
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Create your own group, who cares. The women’s group is used to deter women from entertaining or being with trash men, that all women need to stay from. If men could do this in an equal way, and maturely, then by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:28 AM
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And here in lies the problem, not you or I know every man or woman, so we don’t know what the majority of anyone does. Crazy how that works. Like I said, everyone should everyone, period. And if you don’t want to, continue being a jerk, and good people will know to stay away from those. I make things better for people every day. I watch out for people, I help when asked, I help when not asked. Everyone could learn to do the same. It’s a human quality. Or we can just continue to argue over who’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:05 AM
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I’m not trying to push for anything, it’s how I believe people should naturally be, but unfortunately people just want to fight so I’ll let them. Me and the women I know will help our way. Y’all continue to preach no men helping anyone. Somewhere someone will meet in the middle I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:48 AM
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🤷🏻‍♀️ stand by what I said, I can only control myself and those in my inner circle, and people that don’t help aren’t in my inner circle, so….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:39 AM
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My thing is, no one can tell which guy is good, that’s our problem to begin with. And when we recommend being done with men period, it’s unfair and we’re judging all men. Hell, I said everyone should intervene, and still got called a liar. 🤣 there’s no winning. No getting along. People just want to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:01 AM
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Gives me what I need or desire in a relationship, and that’s alright with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:38 AM
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You know how many men? 0. We all have statistics. I stand by what I said. Everyone should intervene.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:05 AM
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Hold your fellow men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:04 AM
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Stop putting your situations on all women. All women didn’t hurt you. Everyone should intervene, period. If you don’t want to be caring and helpful, learn to be tf alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:01 AM
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There’s de-escalating, there’s removing people from the situation. A lot can be done besides standing there and watching someone get hurt, harassed, attack, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:59 AM
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Disagree friend, but thats what opinions are for. People can choose to be selfish, I like my people kind and loving. But even selfish people have their tribe that agrees with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:39 AM
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Glad the women were there to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:27 AM
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That's what I'm asking. But apparently people are against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:22 AM
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I’m sorry that happened to you. Shouldn’t have. Everyone should help. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:36 AM
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No, that's what you said. <It's my responsibility and nobody else's to save me. < I would rather be on my own in that scenario than to be labeled an a hole for not saving others randomly. So, if the shoe fits, then wear it. So yes I was talking to you, but also to anyone with your same mindset, I would not want them in my life, but you're allowed to be in other peoples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:58 PM
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Hard disagree, but as I said, we're not going to agree. You go for profit, I go for people. We're very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:54 PM
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Someone who wouldn't help people, I would never be friends or otherwise with a person like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:53 PM
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Men aren't entitled to just any woman's time or relationship, and neither are women. Relationships aren't apart of my post. Nor are genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:50 PM
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I never said anything about women entitled to anything. I said ANYONE needs to help someone in a bad situation, period. Don't give a f**k about gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:49 PM
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Yeah, at that point no one is doing it to actually care and only doing it for the reward. I would avoid people like this in life, as they're generally greedy and the kind to f**k you over to get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:47 PM
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Work on yourself, you'll find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:37 PM
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I think every human is under obligation to care about other human lives, but apparently thats where society has gone wrong. If you want something for helping someone, it isn't helping, and I'd rather avoid you all together as well, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:36 PM
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And we know who to avoid all together. Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:34 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:33 PM
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Using the word should, means I would hope people wouldn't stand by and watch as someone gets attacked, raped or otherwise.... but hey, there are assholes in the world, so at least we can spot them when something happens so we know who to avoid all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:31 PM
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No one's entitled to anyone's anything. It's about making sure someone doesn't get hurt. If you don't want to help, stay in your corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:26 PM
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Well thats the point of my comment. So duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:25 PM
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Well they are humans, so yeah I feel like people should care for other people, but hey, I might be an odd one out. At least the decent people will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:22 PM
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If someone is getting attacked, harassed, etc.? Seriously? It's so another fellow human being doesn't get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:21 PM
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I think ANYONE should be able to tell when something is off, and should intervene. But thats just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:15 PM
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I disagree with either side dating DRASTICALLY out of their age range for the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:13 PM
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Take your misogynistic bullshit on somewhere. No one wants to listen to it, or has to listen to the opinions of a poor parented pos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:43 PM
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Why are you dating women 25 years younger than you? What went wrong in your life that you date 20 year olds? Man child. Sorry. Just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:38 PM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ and yet they complain about those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:53 PM
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Then don’t date? 🤷🏻‍♀️ it’s simple. If women are so boring, why continue to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:25 PM
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Sir, it’s weird. I’ve seen many people say how weird he is. He’s a 51 year old man child. Maybe it just isn’t your circle mentioning it. But he is friends with Leo so who is really shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:24 PM
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Amen to that. Can’t help someone that isn’t willing to be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:20 PM
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I try to understand the ones that actually want a solution and I have empathy for them... but then you have the ones who choose to blame women's standards and how they should lower them, etc. and I just have to say ok and move on. There isn't anything I can do about a lot of it, but I try to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:07 PM
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Then OP's logic is flawed, and yet again, people are not cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:06 PM
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And I don’t like men that aren’t unmotivated, just depends on what you want or what you find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:02 PM
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No. I think unfortunately neither side wants to get along, a lot of people just like to argue instead of try to come to a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:55 PM
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There's literally moments she begs him to kill her, she also came back in to her body when they were making out, and the other "entity" took it back over. He becomes aware of the fact she is inside the body, and ignores it, it's why viewers say he is a rapist. He ignores every plea and call she makes. Just like when she asks to be killed and he says "what's so bad about being with me..." F**king everything when you're that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:36 AM
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I mean hard disagree, especially with what we were given in the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:19 AM
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It works, just have to find the right one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:13 AM
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No he’s not, at all. And that’s not even the reason he is disliked later or why he’s considered a rapist, unlike what this op seems to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:51 AM
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The reason he was a rapist was because even after finding out it wasn’t her, he continued. Being unattractive (which Michael very much is not) doesn’t make you a rapist, being a pos does, therefore he is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:50 AM
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Disagree. When you find out new information, you’re allowed to take that empathy back or adjust it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:36 PM
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I’m not going to change what I believe if that’s what you’re wanting. Like I said, sorry you’re dealing with what you are, I hope it changes. That’s all I have to give friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:52 PM
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Me neither but empathy isn’t apart of that. Empathy is feeling bad for how someone is feeling, but when the person’s only solution that they want is “you need to like people that aren’t attractive to you” I kind of lose any empathy I have. Still feel bad it’s happening, but not willing to listen to it any longer. Which is fair, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:51 PM
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I said I personally feel this way. I already told you I was sorry you were going through it and hoped it got better and you wanted to continue the conversation despite what I have already stated. Like I said, sorry you are going through it. I hope it gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:46 PM
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Ehhh, never happened to me. But I’ll live. Maybe one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:35 PM
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I personally feel like your attitude of yourself would be more off putting than what you think you look like, to be honest. But hey, what do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:35 PM
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Damn… maybe I’m doing it wrong. Do I possibly need to settle for someone I’m not attracted to and force him in to becoming everything I want and more? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:34 PM
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I don't believe genetics can be changed either but there are situations and traits that can be. But in the end, I am sorry you feel this way and you're dealing with it. I hope it gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:15 PM
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Not when I am being told to change who I am and how I date, no I don't have any. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:05 PM
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I mean, I don't see anyone hating. I don't hate anyone. I did try to say this in a previous post on here, and was told by multiple men (not you obviously) that if I wanted to help I could "change my perception on life and how I see men..." So maybe I took it as they wanted me to change my habits.... I also guess maybe I just don't see any point in continuing to complain instead of doing something about it? Maybe that's where people come off wrong, because people to be fair, don't have much empat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:04 PM
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I am too honestly. With how many men I’ve seen say Bear was actually a hero, I expected this bull a lot earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:07 AM
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My bad, that’s what your post sounded like. But even with that, there are emotional needs women need that also kind of goes against your post. At the end of the day, you just need to wait it out and find someone that’s with you on those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:07 AM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ leave it to men to miss the point f**king entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:02 AM
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So now women don’t care enough about the elite men who yeah you’re right we can do nothing about. But you not getting a woman, is a skill based problem that you’re responsible for fixing. No one is mocking you, I feel sorry for guys who claim to have this problem. But it’s a problem only they can fix. Women are not responsible for dating someone they’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:36 AM
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So… you want her to work, and do the house work and cook, and childcare? Seems like you’ll have a hard time with that one. But hey, hold out long enough you’ll find your person or a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:36 PM
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I guess my point through it all, would be nothing can fix it for men, unless they fix themselves, or develop a liking to life until their preferred person comes along, or forced marriage is what some seem to want. I’d say the same thing to women going through the same thing. No amount of study is going to fix someone’s choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:25 PM
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Damn, guilty. I’m holding out for what I want. Apologize for holding up the dating scene I guess. I don’t think anything is fixing it anytime soon though unfortunately. A lot of it on women’s side has to do with fear and wanting someone they actually like. On top of that, women not having to settle to have a credit card and to be able to buy a house, also affected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:15 PM
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Yes I know, "men would be ok with anything." Hell that's probably part of their problem, that and they aren't honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:49 PM
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Everyone is to be treated with respect period. You just aren't owed extras just because. You aren't owed a date, but you are owed a kind rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:20 PM
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Men don’t want women they don’t find attractive approaching them either. Seriously, who does? Why would anyone want someone they aren’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:02 PM
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Doesn’t happen often, but it happens enough. Oddly enough I’ve never seen a woman react the way you’re describing, but apparently you’ve never seen a man react the way I’m describing, so I guess it’s just a matter of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:00 PM
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Yes, with people who actually want them or want to be in one with that person. We're saying not to put emphasis on it, not having one is not a bad thing, nor should it be looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:41 PM
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They wouldn't, otherwise they wouldn't be complaining so much. They are just complaining that women like better looking, more confident, interesting men, and they aren't willing to better themselves to be seen by the women they want. So, they would rather complain that ALL WOMEN don't want them and need gender studies. No Gender Studies needed, we KNOW men are the least desirable gender. But it still does not change the fact I am still not going to pity date or date someone I am unattracted to, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:49 PM
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I haven't had a relationship in 6 years. Eventually it'll happen, but I'm not going to blame other people for it, nor am I going to be unhappy because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:43 PM
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It's why I dont try to "empathize" anymore. You get told we don't understand, and the only way to fix it is to be with average men that we aren't attracted to. I finally had to tell a bunch of men to just stay miserable I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:34 PM
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Amen, I just wish everyone would stop putting such an emphasis on relationships. I get wanting one, but you can be perfectly fine and happy without one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:32 PM
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Crazy, I've never threatened to kill a man because he said no. But maybe you're right, maybe somewhere out there some women have acted irrationally. But to be clear, they have a right to feel sad or upset, just like you do if you get rejected. What both sides don't have the right to do, is try to convince them after they've done said no, or being violent, that we agree on. Yes, I am also talking about rejections from first time encounters. No one has to say yes, or has to "try it out" if they'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:29 PM
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They could be, it just depends. You're really not going to get a straight answer unfortunately. I suggest the social places because that's where I'd be most comfortable with it, but you're not wrong, I guess if some girl was hanging out with friends, she might be less likely to be ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:04 AM
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Clubs, bars, places where they’re actually trying to meet someone. If you want to compliment a girl in passing somewhere else, that’s a different story, that’s when she takes the compliment and thinks about it for the rest of the day and smiles. Those are nice. But, trying to “get at her” is reserved for social places for most women. Or at least when they’re not doing chores like grocery shopping or out to dinner with girlfriends, or at the gym working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:11 PM
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I don’t approach men because the 3 times I did, I got insulted for even thinking I was attractive to them. So I just gave up and said if he likes me, he’ll talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:04 PM
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Being blunt and direct isn’t the same as sharing your feelings. Men’s version of being blunt and direct, A LOT of times, comes off rude and sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:03 PM
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Usually it’s just what we’re attracted to. Some people like skinny dudes that wear eye liner like my sister. I like Jacob Elordi, and some other conveniently attractive men. I don’t think anyone really knows why. You just like how they look. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:53 PM
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Some women sure. Some women don’t care. I don’t care what you do. My issue is you being honest about it. Don’t lie to a girl who wants a relationship if that’s all you’re wanting. Be upfront and honest. Wait for someone that also wants just casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:49 PM
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As a bi-woman, I agree. But I like men too, just wish they care more like women, if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:44 PM
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That's what I am saying. I don't judge, nor do I have an issue with it. The dishonesty is what I have an issue with, and this goes with guys wanting casual sex too. It's not the casual sex that I have an issue with, it's being dishonest about wanting a relationship and hurting someone because you don't want the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:14 PM
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I mean, no one wants to be alone, so I definitely sympathize with that as I’ve been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:05 AM
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Oh I agree 100%. I don't think people should be compromising their values just to have someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:24 AM
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Those are all great values to have, I like that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:37 AM
1

Very fair ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:36 AM
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All different issues, none less important than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:34 AM
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I hate that. Neither have I to be fair. But I am moving soon, so hoping it changes things up a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:32 AM
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Sad place to be. For both sides. Hate that anyone has to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:28 AM
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And neither are solving anything, but as long as they can find happiness with themselves, I guess that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:27 AM
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Girl, amen. Watching my family give up majority of their life for kids, made me not want children for the most part. I just keep seeing more and more reasons not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:26 AM
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I fully support both. I guess I just think it's better than being unhappy if you can't find happiness being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:20 AM
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I'm saying you can add to what you already are if what you currently are isn't working. Of course you are good enough as is, but you may have to wait longer, all I am saying is you can speed it up per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:17 AM
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I'm happy you are. :) Thank God someone is having success in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:15 AM
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You're absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:14 AM
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That's a fair thing to want. I can understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:14 AM
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Not interested. For one, I have no interest sleeping with someone I don't have deep feelings for yet, but that's just me. I also wouldn't be with someone who has other people lined up, that's disrespectful to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:11 AM
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This is very true too. Women have to be attracted to said person who is asking, that's very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:08 AM
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Beautifully said. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:07 AM
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You just grew from that experience. There’s nothing wrong with that, you found what you like in dating. It’s a normal thing. Just unfortunately some men will say things when you’re not bowing down to the man’s wants. It’s not all thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:58 PM
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No I don’t. Because I was genuinely answering back. Do you have anything better to do than argue about something you’re assuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:56 PM
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Genuinely asking because I’m curious. Can you give me an example of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:42 PM
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And like I said. Go be with a sex worker, or be one. The key is honesty. I won’t be with someone who was one or was with one, but I’m sure some women will and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:36 PM
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This and the guy before you are the only responses where I’ve said anything less than a genuine conversation because you attacking me over one sarcastic prick, yes it pissed me off. Like I said, go talk to him if you want. I’m not entertaining him being a smartass because he isn’t genuine. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:32 PM
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It’s about 60/40 to be honest. 60 being physicality, 40 being personality. But I will say the personality can ruin the physical very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:29 PM
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I say if you want a sex worker or want to be one, go for it. Just be honest if you ever want a future partner, in case they don’t want this associated with them or they don’t agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:28 PM
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I agree 100%. I feel like that is the smartest move.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:25 PM
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That I can understand and sympathize with. Thank you for your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:23 PM
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How are we privileged when we do in fact risk getting killed and raped though? That’s a genuine question by the way. Because I’m not saying men don’t have issues with dating, of course they do. The problem is, men just simply want someone for sex and desire. And women have higher standards. That I agree with. But women still do have different issues, don’t think either one is way worse really, just different. One is life-threatening, one sucks because it’s harder for you to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:21 PM
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I’m curious about what actually genuine men are wanting. Again, not a sarcastic prick trying to say women should choose him. Girl I’ve had plenty of good conversations with genuine guys that were both enjoying. You found the one prick who’s d**k you seem to want to fuck, and want to defend him? Go talk to him. Give him what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:15 PM
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I like that. Amazing answer. Have you had any luck? Genuinely asking as some one that hasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:11 PM
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My point is, him complaining doesn’t help him. Except to feel bad about himself. But yes, if you want to continue complaining, that is your prerogative. But doing it in a DEBATE forum is kind of defeating the purpose when people are telling you, hey be happy anyways, or change. I think that’s when I would just take my woes to my journal and be alone. Because complaining to women about “be less picky” is the same thing men say women should stop complaining about, which is “the bar is in hell.” Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:10 PM
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Well there’s no other solution animal. That’s the point. The solution they’re wanting is for women to date them anyways. I’m not going to lie to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:07 PM
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Not even the same thing. But you want empathy? Ok here. “Yes, women should absolutely date you to pity you and in spite of the fact they do not find you attractive in the slightest, develop a relationship with you. I’m so sorry you’re unattractive, and not up to par of whatever woman you’re wanting. How dare these women not find you attractive. They’re absolutely insane, person I’ve never met in my life. Next one you like, I’ll meet you and we can tie her down and throw her in the back of your t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:05 PM
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Are their answers in good faith? He’s being a sarcastic prick. That much is obvious. I’m not going to genuinely listen to a sarcastic prick’s selfishness. Nor should women have to choose someone they don’t want. You want to? Be my guest. They’re not going to find a solution if they aren’t considering both sides. Women aren’t play things, they’re not going to choose someone they don’t find attractive to them. And forcing a relationship makes EVERYONE unhappy. Me offering advice about bettering yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:02 PM
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Your argument isn’t even remotely the same thing. But thank you for proving misogyny is still alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:59 PM
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I absolutely love this. This is what I think too. When you look for it, you find the wrong person or you wind up not finding what you’re looking for. Forcing things doesn’t work. I’m so happy you found what you were looking for. I hope we all find this one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:58 PM
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Become above average. Thats the best solution. That doesn’t infringe on someone else’s right to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:52 PM
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That’s part of their issue, they put too much emphasis on sex and then cheat later and hurt the girl because they decide they’re not in love with the person. It’s fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:51 PM
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Well I guess you’re doomed to be single until you can find someone willing to do this. Personally I’m starting to think men should be with men and women should be with women. We obviously want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:51 PM
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To be honest, I was most asking the men who keep complaining about women not choosing average men. But I appreciate your answers too. It’s honestly nice to read a response that isn’t “sex.” Or some smart ass just being a smart ass. lol. I agree. I guess it all comes down to what someone is willing to sacrifice. Which isn’t a lot in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:48 PM
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Ok, explain one. You want to be automatically matched to someone where both people are unhappy? You want to take away someone body autonomy? What? I’m asking but yall aren’t saying anything. So I’m going to guess you want to take away women’s choice, and that isn’t happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:44 PM
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Keep trying. One will find you attractive back. Just be their type of attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:41 PM
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Do I think people should be hired based on experience? Yes. But there gender inequality’s with certain jobs. Date women you don’t usually date. People aren’t required to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:40 PM
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Well the problem is, you still have to be attracted to the person. I guess the real solution for men would be to automatically be matched to someone like a dystopia. But then there lies the issue of the woman actually wanting to be there, and women don’t want to be in Handsmaid Tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:34 PM
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Women want the same, well most. I’m not talking about extremes who want money, but there are extremes in men too. So what you’re describing is the normal imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:27 PM
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I just continue to work on myself so I can make myself above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:26 PM
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Because average people are still not meeting standards that the other person has set. It’s a waiting game for us average people. My standards are high, so I just wait until I can find that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:26 PM
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Well that’s because women want to actually be loved. A lot of men don’t care one way or another. That’s where you have to be willing to hold on until you find someone that wants the same as you. Or you have to change your desires and be willing to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:22 PM
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I hate it feels like that for you. I get that. I’m the same way, and have been for 7 years so I understand. I feel like it’s always the best ones that get overlooked, but I do feel like we’ll win in the end. I know that isn’t the best pep talk, but it’s what I tell myself when I get lonely or upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:21 PM
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So you want to be able to get a prostitute in replacement of not being desirable to the women you like? I mean, I’m all for sex positivity, so if that’s what makes a man happy, go for it. As long as everyone is honest about their intentions, I see no harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:18 PM
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Ok let me reword. Because everything you’re describing is unfortunately a society issue and there isn’t much I can do about that. What do you want women to do? I’ve seen be understanding, which is all fine and good, but it doesn’t change anything which is why I give the advice I do about changing yourself. When it comes to women who expect too much from men and are the “dating bedwetter types” I can’t do much about her either. I don’t befriend people like that, so that’s all I really can do, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:14 PM
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Absolutely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:03 PM
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Then date a man? Or be straight up and tell which ever woman you're able to get to screw you, that you don't want a relationship. I'd have more respect if they did. But don't waste women's time when you don't want anything of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:01 PM
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Why don't men just increase their standards, problems solved. Both sides have to be willing to level up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:00 PM
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I agree, but I was trying to have "empathy" since I apparently don't have any. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:58 PM
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Yep. That's my issue too. If you actually wanted anyone, you wouldn't be so damn picky, at least I as a woman can tell a man straight up that no I probably wouldn't date you because I am not attracted. They are just mad women that are their type per se won't give the "good guys" the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:55 PM
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Accepting it doesn't change what we find attractive though. Asking us to basically say men are least desirable, isn't going to make us want any of them any more. We'll still want what attracts us. At that point, you'll play on the heart strings of women who care too much, and they'll date you because they pity you, but it sounds like a lot of men would be ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:53 PM
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You have to find the one that wants you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:51 PM
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From what I've read they're "ok with anyone." So I'm betting he'd agree... my thing is, who is actually happy in this arrangement? No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:51 PM
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And this is why there isn't any solution to these problems. You'll never be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:50 PM
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There are gender studies in College. And if that's what is important to you sure. But saying men are the least desirable gender, yeah it's true, I'll agree with that, but at the end of the day, it doesn't and won't change anything about the outcome. Women will till choose their mates based on what they find attractive, you just have to wait for the one that finds you attractive specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:48 PM
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In order to get that with women, you have to develop a connection. Most of the time. I'm not going to say some women won't just give you a one night stand, I'm sure you could get it if you tried people who don't want love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:47 PM
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Sorry, in another sub they're pissed off and I misconstrued what you typed. Lol. That was my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:23 PM
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Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:16 PM
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The question is, who are you to say she is delusional? Especially if the man also shows interest. People just like who they like dude. You should do the same. Go after your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:09 PM
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I agree. I wish more women did notice things or asked tiny questions to dodge bullets, but for some reason they wait until they’re living together to then be like, oh my god he isn’t what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:47 PM
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Disagree. But everyone’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:44 PM
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As a woman, you aren’t going to straight up ask questions that send him running in two seconds, but I do agree as you go along women should start to notice things and realize this may be hell if it continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:38 PM
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Sure. Everyone has a right to try. It’s what they do after that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:35 PM
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I said, you can approach whenever. But you have to be ok with possibly being rejected. There are days where I don’t feel like getting hit on, and I probably will say no. Women are humans, we aren’t going to be ok all the time. I say shoot your shot, but again, you have to be ok with taking a no and moving on if it happens. And if it does work, great. But it’s not going to work all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:32 PM
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Same here. And some men have a very hard time taking rejection. It’s why women choose to be nice and then ghost after because it’s better than getting killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:27 PM
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I promise you they are. Unless you’ve had every lived experience, which you haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:12 PM
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BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE UP HER EXISTENCE BURNER. Why risk something you truly love for something you don't fucking know is going to be worth it or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:46 PM
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Precisely why a lot of women don't want to have them, because they aren't worth the risk. I'm truly happy you enjoy yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:44 PM
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That's the rare cases, that's part of men's and women's issues is they put a few examples of the opposite gender on EVERYONE. Not every girl wants a rich guy, some do, some want them to make an equal amount of money, you just have to find what you're attracted to and looking for. Women wait for it, instead of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:42 PM
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That's when you go look for someone that has your standards, putting women down for what they want isn't helping. You go after what you want too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:40 PM
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The risk you have to take is someone not being in to you. You are perfectly good enough how you are, barring the extreme cases of course. But you still have to find your match, because women are still trying to find theirs too. So yes, people are going to tell you if you want someone specific to "level up" because that woman is looking for something specific. That doesn't mean there isn't someone out there, that isn't looking for someone just like you right now. Just have to find her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:38 PM
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I agree with the other women, it's how and when and where you all decide to approach. If you ask at the gym and I am in the midst of a workout, one it's going to come off creepy because you starting while I am at the gym in workout attire, kind of gives me the vibe you are only asking because of my body and it's a turn off. The grocery store does depend, some women don't have good grocery store stories, some do, it's all a matter of maybe or maybe not. You can try, but their mood going in to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:32 PM
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Brad Pitt would absolutely get sent in to traffic because he's a heinous human being. Also, man does not look decent anymore and hasn't since he cheated on Jennifer Aniston.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:17 PM
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Well yes, women aren't going to just date you for the hell of it. We do have to be attracted to you. This is where you take the L and go to the next person. It could've also been like LadyLana said, they're lesbian or in a relationship, but it's still a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:15 PM
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Precisely, and unfortunately they don't rear their ugly head until after it's here. To some of motherhood sure, but to a lot of it, oh absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:11 PM
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Pregnancy and motherhood in itself makes women lose theirselves. They're not the same, we don't get to go out "with the girls" and still have fun or live life, our lives are just children 24/7., unless you can hire a nanny and have money, then you can be absent from your children all the time and be judged. We also don't get help a lot of the time. I watched my mom be alone in her pregnancy and raising my sister, it's agonizing and heart-wrenching. It made me have the decision to never have chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:01 PM
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A negotiation doesn't consider attraction and feelings, both of which are needed to want someone, at least for women. You can't force someone to like you if they don't my friend. I can understand trying a date as some people do, but if you're not compatible, no one is going to stick around and be unhappy just for the sake of not being lonely. No, I don't like analogies because analogies of non-human objects literally offer nothing to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:51 PM
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I mean, if y'all don't want nothing to do with the kids, I don't care if you don't pay child support. Just leave women tf alone. Child support is something you'll have to take up with society and the government and your non-partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:45 PM
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Then don't reply and don't complain, hope you find what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:23 AM
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You are allowed to want a relationship, but what you're not allowed to do is expect women to lower their standards to fix it for you. Find the one that wants you, or don't, those are the choices you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:11 AM
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Then you'll have no solution. But hey, don't take the advice and continue victimizing yourself, whatever works for you. Good conversation there Brian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:03 AM
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Not sure what you're wanting then friend? Gave you advice, you can better yourself and become what you want to attract or you can wait for someone to come to you. Genuinely not knowing what you want women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:58 AM
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Glad to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:59 AM
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No arguments here, I gave up on dating apps years ago when all I got were men looking for one night stands. I don't think dating apps are ideal for anyone to find true love on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:17 AM
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Then stop? If you don't want kids and a wife, don't settle. I'd tell women the same, don't settle. That's how men and women alike wind up on Snapped and Unsolved Mysteries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:10 AM
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Not if she is also working, that's what the housemaid is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:31 PM
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Depends, but they also do more blue collar or bulk work. Which is why I said, if he makes more, he should take on the more expensive bills, and whoever makes least should pay the least expensive bills, that way every one gets to save and put away their fair share of spending and/or emergency funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:35 PM
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Men tend to have higher paid positions for one. But I have never said anything about men providing shit. That's up to the couple's dynamics. Not mine. I have no issues splitting bills based on what he makes and then what I make, and yes I would rather hire a housekeeper, and then cook together. It's called an equal lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:30 PM
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So you want women to admit to you that you're not desirable in the least to them? I mean I agree that a lot of women aren't going for short men, or men of average looks because that isn't our standard, but its also true that men aren't looking for commitment unless it fits in their bounds. Unless women are willing to be "housewives" or willing to let their men cheat openly, men are very skeptical to commitment. A lot would just rather avoid relationships at all, and I'd rather them be upfront ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:28 PM
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Most women agree with that dude. Go find who wants you, no one is stopping you. Women not wanting you because you don't want to work for a relationship is fair, just like you wanting a woman to be ok with you as an average person is fair, just to the right people. No one is arguing against you. Me and YveisGrey just want someone to work for a relationship and not expect king treatment for nothing. In the end we just have different needs. That's not "women not getting with the program." That's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:22 PM
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You need to be content with yourself first. Do I want a man to want me? Of course. But I don't think need is the right thing for any one. Needing someone puts you at risk. Meaning you can't survive on your own, and god forbid something happens after 35 years together, a mental breakdown will ensue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:14 PM
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What else is there? Genuinely asking. Be who you want to attract. Stop expecting people to change and be lower for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:05 PM
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They do tend to settle down with top tier women, but men somewhat value how many women they can bag before that, for whatever reason. I've never understood it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:59 PM
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Good, I'm happy for you. That's how everyone should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:53 PM
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You just did, "Women seem to have an issue getting with the program though."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:52 PM
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Up your worth, don't know what to tell you. Women want more attractive men, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:39 PM
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Why should women change what they want to please you, though? I don't think either should, you should find someone who wants what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:28 PM
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So, what would you rather the advice be? Go out, meet friends, take care of yourself, go to the gym, attempt to make conversation, become desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:11 PM
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No, you don't have to work for a relationship you as a man obviously don't want, you have that option, just as women have the option to say no. That's the equality. Don't do something you don't want to, it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:21 PM
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Someone tag that man from like 8 days ago that was complaining women didn't want average men.... the truth is, men don't want average women either... shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:54 PM
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Okay, I don't think it's fair for her to think that, but unfortunately that is her right. Yes, most women are going to believe this because it's one of the only times, women know men actually desire or want a woman, EVER. But, I'd argue at the end of the day that makes you not compatible with most women. Which is why I recommend in turn for you to find a woman who will split or will take care of you.... they're out there, you just have to find them and not be willing to settle. That's why I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:44 PM
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Part of your issue may be describing dating as a housing issue... but beyond that, don't know why you would want to settle in the first place. In the long run, you'll wind up unhappy and resentful, so in the end of it, you don't wind up with the person you settled for anyways. Settling is what people do when"to just have someone." That's how to wind up on snapped or people investigates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:33 PM
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You're not a woman, you wouldn't know anything about how women think or how they're attracted to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:28 AM
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Being sexually attracted to you, has nothing to do with if you see men as human. We can see you as a human being and not want intimacy with you......
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:03 AM
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Because we're NOT attracted to a lot of average.... would you rather be lied to? I'm genuinely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:00 AM
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Because we aren't attracted to them? It's nature. That doesn't mean treat them like shit, but not being attracted is the issue here. Why don't you show interest at average looking women? Let me be clear, the ONLY man I actually have gotten horny or lusting over, without meeting, was Jacob Elordi. So there's that.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:59 AM
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Depends, if you want your one woman to be a trad wife, that's your business, but if you have some mindset that all women are is housewives, that's what makes you sexist. Your personal preference has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:45 AM
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I prefer this dynamic, 50/50 is all I ask for... well 100/100. Treat me, how I treat you. Would I like the door held open occasionally? Yes, but I would do the same for him. Share chores, share responsibilities, I just don't understand why this is seen as awful or not desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:43 AM
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I think celebrating it is a little much, on both sides.... treated like it's not an ick, would be something I would settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:42 AM
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I'd like it to be more even, hell even just act like you like being around me in bed.... but its not to say your way is bad per se, but I would want my partner to feel appreciated too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:38 AM
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Hear me out, a lot of men are a mix of both. Just because they are exciting and charismatic, doesn't mean they aren't loyal or emotionally available. Could it just be that the "nice guys" use this because they're not charismatic or confident or exciting, and so they have to hate on men that can do all of the above instead of combating their own insecurities with leveling up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:34 AM
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No, assuming he still thinks and acts like a man, since he was that way his whole life, men wouldn't be attracted to his personality in that way, hell men barely like women who don't want to be traditional (majority speaking), they wouldn't want someone exactly like them.... then again, sometimes I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:30 AM
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I'd argue a good maybe 30% to be honest. Surely it has to be higher than 10% I'd like to hope.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:25 AM
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Someone who is outgoing, someone who can have a conversation with me and is easy to talk to, someone who is sure of themselves, someone who doesn't have to lie to get a date, someone who has concrete intentions, someone who takes care of themselves, someone who isn't afraid to be vulnerable with me.... someone who is confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:13 AM
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I actually agree, when I see men (not you) saying they need it and it should always be given in relationships, I always think but why? It's pretty good IF you have someone absolutely stunning at it, and even then, you can do the same thing with a sex toy... people put way too much emphasis on sex. If you're in love with someone, I can understand the connection and it being passionate (depending on if the man is actually passionate or treats you like a whore), but if it's just sex, it's mediocre …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:58 AM
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Prefer and want that for themselves? Yes. you have the right. What you dont have the right to do, which I see way too often, is be interested in a woman, and when you find out she isn't a traditional woman, either a. try to make her change her mind, or b. talk to down to her and insult what she's looking for. Take the L and move on, that's where men lose me. We don't all want to be traditional, and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:54 AM
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Lol. I highly disagree with you, and do encourage you to look deeper in mainstream discussions. But, we both know you're not going to agree with anything that makes your original point look less than, so I'll leave it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:18 AM
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Men most certainly do call women gold-digging whores for wanting a traditional relationship with a man. Just as men receive the same. That being said, no there is nothing inherently wrong with you wanting a trad wife, as long as she is consenting and it doesn't border on controlling, toxic behavior. The problem lies in men getting pissed off when someone they're attracted to, isn't this way and doesn't seek this type of relationship and men choose to insult them and their personal choices. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:44 AM
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Define power? Because from what I have seen, women are attracted to attractive men (by their standards) as not every woman's is the same. Sometimes power may equal money for women, that I can agree with for women looking for a traditional life standpoint, etc. But really what are you saying power is, because I have never seen a woman go after the king of Scotland or something, and there aren't enough men in power of a country to go around, so its obviously not all women attracted to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:32 AM
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Both tend to stick their nose in each other's business honestly. I've seen women give a damn when men want their own spaces, same for men when women want their own. Unfortunately there is an ego in every bunch. Just like your example of women living their lives and men being condescending, it's usually the lonely ones that are pissed off women are living single and enjoying times with their friends and they make assumptions. Women do the same thing when men are single and choose to sleep around …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:59 AM
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My post was mostly a joke, but it's only because who gives a damn who does what better? Women tend to like and do things men do, and vice versa. Except for production, as of right now, both are needed for that, whether it be IVF or whatever. I feel like comparing only pisses people off more... there's no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:55 AM
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I'd argue the opposite as a bi-sexual woman. Men aren't passionate, they treat sex like it's disposable, and don't even get me started on how aggressive they are, which rough sex isn't a taboo thing depending on who you are, but the way they treat their partners like animals is not passionate in the slightest. Women, totally different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:48 AM
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Then don't date women? Only date men? If you dont like how hard women make your life, don't get with one. Simple fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:41 AM
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If reproductive science keeps going the way it is, pretty soon we won't need men for births either. Are men wanted by a lot of women? Yes, it's nice when they're actual partners, but needed is a bit of a stretch besides birth, not going to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:29 AM
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Go find someone you're compatible with? Work on yourself, get healthy, then go find someone you can see yourself with. A key is honestly friendships, it's what helped me the most. I'm single, sex toys are my best friend. TMI I know, but right now, I am not in a place for human connection, especially not with the options I have at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:20 AM
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Attraction is a thing everyone deals with, you work on it, you go to the gym, you take care of yourself. Go out, meet friends, especially friends of the opposite sex, as JUST FRIENDS, and be outgoing and do things you enjoy doing. Not sure about the loss of blue collar work as I see plenty of blue collar workers, but everyone is having trouble finding work right now, so I get it, not just a man thing. The loss of identity as a male provider is unfortunately a thing society put on you all, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:16 AM
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Go get a sex doll, go get a flesh light. What do you think single women do? We have friendships, which men very much need, and we have sex toys. It's possible if you just believe. Struggling mentally? Talk to your friends, talk to a therapist (that is what they're there for).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:02 AM
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When your need for empathy or sympathy becomes "it's all women's fault" or "women need to lower their standards" or "you don't care enough." It gets tiring, my friend. Telling you to go to therapy is what I would tell anyone struggling with mental health. It's what all people need. Therapy is there for a reason, but if what you are expecting is to trauma dump and then a solution be, women need to allow me to have sex with them or date me because us as men are at a disadvantage, then I can't help…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:56 AM
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Or, become confident. Change yourself to be confident. Do things that make you happy, go out, talk to people, go to the gym, take care of yourself. I mean, I am really not understanding what you as a man are wanting here? You want women to not want confident men? So we just ignore what we're attracted to and date people who are insecure to make them feel better? I'm not meaning to come off rude, but I genuinely don't know what you're wanting besides you also being confident and dating confident …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:47 AM
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So instead of going to find a woman that does like or is ok with certain things, or changing yourself... you'd rather argue and debate with women who don't agree with these things you seek, to make them change? I'm not understanding what other option you are seeking, other than finding someone who fits your niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:40 AM
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Women aren't the one's complaining on a reddit thread about men liking confident women, Ultra. In fact it's a norm to appreciate confidence. It's what determines success in many ways, dating, job wise, money wise, life period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:25 AM
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Because you see how bad the world is as a whole, economically, society wise, just period, and you want to bring a baby in to this? Especially if you're someone who is struggling economically and can't give your child their needs (other countries and other circumstances can't help it, I get that), but choosing to bring children in to bad situations in America especially, is selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:20 AM
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So what is your complaint about? Because women at a "macro level" like confident men? Welcome to dating. The bright thing to do, would be to also like confident women and work on becoming confident yourself. Make it a societal norm Ultra, no ones stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:18 AM
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Precisely. The other issue is, men don't really care where the baby comes from, as long as they have their "imaginary heir." As long as they have that, they're set. The woman being not ideal is the least of their worries, they just want the heir to the life they don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:16 AM
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I didn't say it was all or even a majority, I said it was a lot, which it is. But there are also women who have sex with men and the risk of condoms breaking, pills not working, etc. there you go. Pregnancy is not an amazing thing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:14 AM
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If you choose not to pay, that makes you not compatible with the woman you chose to ask out that also does not want to pay, meaning you should go look elsewhere, while she goes on a date with the guy willing to pay. That's how asking someone out works. You have the risk of being used for a free meal, women have the risk of being sexualized and asked where we are headed after this. Both are a risk. There is an inherent risk with dating both parties have to be ok with. If the date doesn't go well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:11 AM
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Because men are the ones complaining about bill splitting? So if they don't want to pay, just say that so women can go find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:08 AM
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Really both parties need to be upfront, so you can avoid each other and go about your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 AM
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Completely agreed. If she likes you for you, she'll take the getting to know you date. a $5 coffee never hurt any one. And if a man doesn't want to pay, be up front, that way she can decide if she wants to go out, or if its really worth her time saying no to paying $5, either way is preference. It's really not hard, people just like to make it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 AM
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The answer is yes, we do say don't date men that expect you to be slaves while also working your own job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:58 AM
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Disagree entirely with that, but neither is wrong. If men don't want a confident woman, that's your prerogative. Just like it's women's prerogative's if we want one. It's called preference Billy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:48 AM
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On top of that, there are goals of mine that I haven't met, so no, children are not for me right now, if in the future I decide otherwise, possibly, but until then it's a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:47 AM
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Don't really care about running out of time, especially when it comes to my children not having to endure what I did. Wanting children despite the unwellness of society and it's members right now is called selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:46 AM
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You would be surprised how many children would say, why couldn't you just not have me if I was going to suffer this way, I being one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:44 AM
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Precisely, like feel free to not want the child by all means as the male partner, there forth she has the right to abortion but like you said, if she keeps it, I do believe the state should pick up the slack, especially since they keep complaining about low birth rates and expect women to endure it for their sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:43 AM
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Yes, a lot of women I know do in fact warn others not to have kids for a multitude of reasons, a lot regret it, a lot wish they had them at another time, its not sunshine and rainbows sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:41 AM
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I would describe happiness as happiness and sadness as sadness. confident is confident, insecure is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:38 AM
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Your last comment didn’t show up. But from seeing the top of it, I don’t know what you mean by the absence of negative? Either you’re confident or not. Meaning I find you attractive or don’t. There is not a sense of negative. Same way if you find someone attractive because they’re “athletic,” they either are or they’re not. There is no in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:23 AM
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Also welfare and services isn’t shit. Don’t get it twisted. They are the bare minimum of what it takes to have children. So until you’ve lived that life, don’t judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:13 AM
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Didn’t say it was all. But it is a lot. My personal feelings are valid as much as everyone else’s. You asked, I answered. I think of the children always. It’s why I won’t have any of my own until everything is absolutely perfect for them, and if not, I won’t. Even if you don’t like the financial argument, it’s someone’s every day. Take it as what you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:11 AM
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We’ll gladly trade places. You wanna go through the pain of pregnancy? Be our guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:02 AM
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Start having high standards friend. There’s nothing wrong with it. Believe in yourself more. Know you deserve the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:58 AM
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Many reasons, like you said the 6% of genetically disadvantaged babies, rape cases, or moms dying. But also, sometimes if you know the man isn’t going to be around or help parent which happens a lot more than you think. Who wants to be a single parent? Also, if you’re at a disadvantage money wise, I’d argue that’s a good reason. My parents didn’t have their shit together, and I would’ve rather them aborted me than me have to go through the life I had to endure. It’s not fun for a kid who did not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:55 AM
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Do you just not have standards or something? Having standards doesn’t mean treating people like shit. It means you have needs that you want met and won’t stoop lower, you don’t have to treat someone like shit to reject them. You can be kind and reject someone who doesn’t meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:51 AM
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Someone who is exceptional at athletics is someone who is not horribly out of shape. Both can exist at the same time. It is a core trait people are attracted to, and unfortunately needs to be said. You’d be surprised by how many insecure people are in this day and age, weeds out the ones we don’t need to put up with. I’m attracted to confidence, so yes I state it when asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:49 AM
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It’s a risk everyone should take if I’m being honest. Keeps people from being treated like shit. If you want to go to settle, go for it. Doesn’t mean everyone should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:46 AM
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It isn’t about y’all caring or “having skin in the game.” It’s about men actively voting against women’s rights. If you don’t care, mind your business and go about your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:44 AM
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Depends, there’s a difference between knowing you deserve better than bare minimum, and thinking you are above everyone. They’re not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:38 AM
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Now, if you’re going to sit here and say a man can never be insecure or have emotions, that isn’t fair, and isn’t plausible. We’re all human and all have feelings. It’s when you are insecure every second of the day, need reassurance all the time if I love you, or like someone else, and when you find me hanging out with friends a problem, all because you’re insecure. No I’m not attracted to that. Have feelings and emotion all day, it’s welcomed, but not when it’s weaponized or is your entire pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:09 AM
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Except athleticism would be someone who’s not horribly out of shape for the most part. Just like confidence is someone who’s confident, who doesn’t come off as insecure. Confidence is the same thing in both genders. Everyone for the most part is going to be attracted to confidence, it’s a pretty common standard. (Unless your my sisters best friend, who says she likes people who are insecure because then she can beat them down and they won’t leave her) but hey, that’s narcissism. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:06 AM
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Depends on the partner. You never said the hours you played so I have no idea what her complaint was, but it also depends if she felt appreciated as a partner. You may have just not been compatible or you didn’t want a relationship. It’s not about basing a personality on it, it’s about our fear if we will make it home or not if we do go out with said guy or trust said guy or go home with said guy. It’s the risk, and we have to be ok with that. No one said it was ok to make a personality trait ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:00 AM
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Sounds like she communicated her needs if she told you you’re on the game too much. Lol. But slightly just kidding, kind of. Again, I think more of the issue is you aren’t taking in to accountability, women’s experiences which largely combat studies, especially where sexual harassment and rape and the alike are concerned. Do keep in mind, studies can also be skewed, which is why there are so many different ones of the same topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:41 AM
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What exact definition would you think she is wanting if you haven’t actually talked or thought like a woman? And describe normal amount of confidence, because I don’t believe it’s two different things. Confidence overall is confidence. I don’t think there is exactly a scale depending on gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:37 AM
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Completely agree. Everyone should have high standards. It keeps you from putting up with bullshit and things you don’t deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:33 AM
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Yes the woman is wrong for her behavior. But at the same time, the man is in fact a moron for not noticing the red flags and/or her behavior. I mean men tell women the same thing about men they have babies with and how they should have noticed they weren’t good men in the beginning. Both things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:20 AM
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Doesn’t sound like you care about the issues stated, sounds like you just want to prove women wrong, which is a problem in itself, and is probably largely why you ex partner is an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:10 AM
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I’d like to say size doesn’t matter, and it wouldn’t if men for the most part cared about their partners during intimacy. The problem is, men don’t give a damn so if that’s the case, women might as well get their rocks off and be with someone they can at least decently feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:44 AM
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F**k it, I’ll play. There are plenty of reason why women feel a type of way with men sexualizing them, harassment and not wanting to be disrespected come to mind. But I’ll argue that two things can be true at once. I agree, I don’t find certain things attractive about a man’s sexuality. In part, they are very rough a lot of times with sex, don’t give a shit if their partner is satisfied or not, and all are just downright disgusting when performing the act or when talking during, along with how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:33 AM
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As a woman with no issues being with a bi-man. I completely agree. My mom had an acquaintance a few years ago that found out her boyfriend had been with men after he had asked for something sexually that was “feminine” based in her eyes… needless to say, she thought about leaving after and I believe she eventually did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:25 AM
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Depends on the person and what you’re talking about. Sexually? I’d rather not have a man with 35+ bodies, but experienced or not experienced doesn’t matter really as long as THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO WHAT I NEED. That’s the key with that. As far as experienced in relationships. Yeah it would be nice to date someone who is emotionally intelligent and knows how to communicate but that doesn’t always mean being in a relationship. A lot of this “men are unappealing with no experience” comes from socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:23 AM
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Truly, I just like discussions. I did largely give up on dating, because it’s inevitable to be hurt, and majority of us aren’t going to find the person of our dreams, it’s just better to be alone. But I do like general talking points with people, and deeper conversations, so Reddit does what’s needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:16 AM
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I mean, don’t you too want a confident woman? I feel like it’s a natural thing on both sides for people to want their partners confident. Why would anyone want to be with someone that is always insecure??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:54 PM
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I think the base line is, men need to date men, they’d be happier, because if you’re trying to DATE WOMEN, then I suggest you learn how to treat women, but hey, who am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:42 PM
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How exactly are men being punished? By not having dating options? That is dependent upon the person and their personality or preferences overall. Women not liking men isn’t a punishment, it’s a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:35 PM
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Well I would argue men are the same, when has a man ever accepted being sexually attracted by a woman not in their preferences? In fact majority of times, men are loads harsher towards a woman who isn’t their type than a woman is. Not saying it doesn’t happen. But men don’t accept it either. So personally, no should be good enough, both parties should shut up, and go about their day when someone says they’re not interested or they don’t like it. Problems solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:25 PM
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I feel like it’s slightly different to be honest. If I was in love with someone, I just don’t think I could continue in the same space as them, it would be too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:55 AM
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Ahhh, "Why I'm Single: The Essay." alternative versions; "Women Please Stay Away from Egotistical Men," "Men and Control," or "Men: The Sequel." I hope women see through this bull and stay far away from you and your cousin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:42 PM
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Sounds like your “type” didn’t like you, so you expect women to lower what they desire? There’s nothing wrong with having a type of man. Like someone above said, my type hasn’t changed in the years I’ve been alive. Now there is some people who may settle for less than or someone who isn’t their type based on how someone treats them or vice versa, but that still doesn’t change what they’re attracted to. To be honest, I think you’re getting things confused. People fall in to other leagues sure, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:21 AM
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So let’s just say I believe half the shit you’re spewing because majority of it is case by case basis of rare instances where yes some groups of women do have issues with men rights, it’s called extremists, and not all women are like that. Now I will tell you that yes equal custody can be an issue, but I can also talk to you on why the assumption is men don’t really want to take care of their kids full time or half time and the MAJORITY are who show that. So the courts and women overall generali…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:14 AM
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He doesn’t. Someone broke his little heart and turned down his proposal because he didn’t make enough money (I guess) and he decided all women were shallow. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:49 AM
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So I don’t get to enjoy my activity or community after it ends? No thanks. Friends in the community? Great. Not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:46 AM
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On top of that, not every marriage is not the same. Women also provide, so guess what? 50/50 the chores and cooking. It’s not hard, people just like to make it hard. The problem is, majority of people want to put their preferences on other relationships, and the point is, it’s not your relationship to put shit on to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:41 AM
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And men only care about sex what else is new? No, not all women care about a fancy shit wedding just like not all men care about sex but again this is part of the problem y’all generalize people and then wonder why there’s issues with conversation. But while we’re at it generalizing, men don’t want an actual relationship either, they want a woman to be their mother, and then want women on the side because they have no loyalty and don’t know how to stay with one woman. Guess we all have our “vice…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:32 AM
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I never said it was an issue. If people like sex that’s fair. But I’m just saying men operate differently that’s why they would be ok being treated like a manwhore, because they value sex that much. The problem with “constant complaining” is it isn’t always complaining. It’s things, that were obvious things, that could’ve been done or issues that are obvious that aren’t taken care of. Like I said men and women aren’t different, men unfortunately need things to be kindergarten obvious, and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:34 PM
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They shouldn’t. In fact if men just decided to say hey, we’re going to pleasure ourselves and have sex dolls instead, a lot of women would be thrilled. We wouldn’t have to be bothered, hit on when not wanted, or scared of certain things happening to be honest. Yeah some women would miss their sexual needs, attention, etc. but a lot could deal. Y’all would just have to deal with the ones that still wanted the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:06 PM
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That’s because all men need to thrive or “feel loved” is sex. Women are completely different and don’t want to be treated like meat or “sluts.” So much so, that I’m starting to think women and men just aren’t compatible period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:56 PM
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Depends, if it’s something I care about and you have done it for someone else, then yeah it would be a conversation to be had, and if it can’t be compromised upon or it’s an issue for you whatever reason, then possibly we just aren’t compatible, and that’s ok, it would just be you finding someone who was willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:36 PM
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Your problem and most people’s problems, are they take people doing bad shit or stupid shit or judgmental shit and lump them in to what political party they represent. It’s called stereotyping, assuming every person in that group is the same way. It’s why no one can have a conversation half the time. That’s where you have to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:21 PM
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He wants control. Thats what I’ve gathered from his comments. He’s one of those “I’m a high value man,” and I deserve a high value whatever the fuck. He only values sex obviously because each argument about why women don’t stay in relationships where love is not prevalent, he argues about women’s “sexual” experiences. Sex is most important to him, he’ll love no one beyond sex. Stay far away. That’s what I have gotten so far. He also hates kinky sex because obviously he’s not into it or bad at it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:15 PM
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No it’s still society in my opinion and majority of others I’ve seen, men just happened to set society up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:08 PM
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Yeah I disagree with that, especially with people with no Medicare not being able to live, but hey I actually care about other people. Or people just don’t want to have children? Find a woman who wants to have one, pay to woo her, have yourself a baby, and leave everyone else be. Yay, one more child in this f**ked world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:44 PM
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Amen. This right here… like, no Medicare or other needs, but men who have no social skills or are horrible people need to find a mate. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:39 PM
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And half of that crisis is obese men as well. 🤦🏻‍♀️ the birth rate is on the decline because women don’t need to stay with a man to have credit cards, etc. anymore. But also, a lot of women don’t want to put theirselves second to a child and man anymore either, they want careers. And having kids is an awful consideration regardless, look at our world and economy, why would any one want to bring kids in to this? If you want to date, but a passport and go date abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:38 PM
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Now I feel like you’re trolling… lol. If the government is against Medicare, what makes you think they’ll sponsor travel for people to meet people OUTSIDE of the us? That’s a you need to get your money up situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:32 PM
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That’s not the offensive thing. Any guy on earth can ask out a girl. It’s the not taking no for an answer. Whether they’re “hot” or a woman’s type or whatever. No means no. I’m not interested doesn’t mean keep trying to change someone’s mind. And when a girl says she has a man or a woman or a partner or whatever, that also isn’t the time to be like, but I can treat you better or anything of that sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:49 PM
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Well, the reason that is, is who else is going to speak up for our fellow women? Men don’t and they don’t seem to care about our problems, so to you I genuinely ask, why would we speak up for yall?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:01 AM
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Damn, dude can’t get anyone so he’s trying to “manipulate” liberal women in to “spreading their legs” for him, by suggesting they save their political interests. Thats something I haven’t seen even the worst of Red Pill men try… color me “impressed.” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:44 AM
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No one is saying to solve a problem genius, we’re saying to make a break, for men and women alike to take care of childcare. Period. That isn’t hurting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:35 AM
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Would you say this same statement to a single dad who also needs breaks to get children to and from school / appointments? There's no issues with breaks as long as everyone is working the same amount of hours, which she would be, just with a break to get children.... so why would she need a pay cut?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:25 AM
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Really in all honesty, both sides get slaughtered for it overall. Men are seen disgusting and creepy for p#rn, women are seen as "promiscuous" for watching and wanting sex. (Overall I think p#rn is disgusting no matter the gender, it creates unreal expectations and to an extent causes cheating, but that's a discussion for another time). Same with toys. Men are instructed to cover up sure, but women are seen as horrors for dressing the way they do and showing too much skin. Overall, we're all jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:13 AM
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