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Maybe I should go out then...
/r/seduction24/05/13 01:50 AM
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Just a rut. They come and go. I'm sure you've been through them as well.
/r/seduction23/05/13 06:02 PM
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I disagree but I appreciate your insight
/r/seduction22/05/13 09:16 PM
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Oh I date people, didn't mean to imply that. Just saying I haven't found any I want to commit to.
/r/seduction22/05/13 07:16 PM
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Maybe, but I trust my gut on these things. Might be my severe case of oneitis but if it doesn't feel right, if I don't know in my bones "I can stop sleeping with other women for this girl" I don't do it. Maybe you're right and I'm not ready but I don't think I'm doing anyone a favor with a half-assed commitment just to say I'm in a relationship.
/r/seduction22/05/13 05:53 PM
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see but my issue is that now I barely meet any women I can see any long term potential with and they automatically don't seem worth the effort so I shut myself in. So sick of the game and rules of engagement but I want a LTR with a girl I know just "feels" right...quite the catch 22 I have myself in
/r/seduction22/05/13 05:03 PM
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Ha ha I like it
/r/seduction20/05/13 12:00 AM
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I see what you're saying and you're probably right. This situation is slightly more complicated because I did come at her in the past, made my intentions clear and she told me she was seeing someone but gave me the "if I weren't I would so date you" spiel. I separated myself from the situation, a few weeks later we reconnected but we didn't discuss the romantic aspect of "us" any longer so those comments she makes are in the context of us being at this stage here. She's done a few things since t…
/r/seduction14/05/13 06:35 PM
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No I'm not with anyone. I picked her up and they asked me what I had done earlier in the day. I said "Oh I was hanging out with a friend" and then the response was "ooooo a girlfriend". I just responded "Nah, I don't do girlfriends"
/r/seduction14/05/13 06:16 PM
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I feel you, and that's what I'll do. Appreciate you bro
/r/seduction14/05/13 06:12 PM
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ha ha. While I'm not going to lie and say this wasn't prompted by a specific case I actually meant it in more general terms since I know its something we've all heard and experienced. The girl that said it to me has shown signs of jealousy a couple of times but its always subtle. Like seeing me at a party with a girl she knew and commenting "Oh, I didn't know you each other" with a somewhat deflated tone. Either way she is a good friend and part of a larger group of friends of mine so I'm not sw…
/r/seduction14/05/13 06:07 PM
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well why do you think she is probably interested? What indicators has she given you? Not doubting you just curious.
/r/seduction02/05/13 12:03 AM
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Wouldn't that just come off as needy though?
/r/seduction02/05/13 12:02 AM
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awesome advice and thank you! I have been doing this to some degree, like for example I went to a party on Saturday with my friend K (she isn't a part of this social circle but she knows them) and the girl I tell you I like who told me she's seeing someone (let's call her Sarge) asked me who I came with and I told her "with K" who was standing right next to me. Her reaction caught me a but off guard, it was like "Oh, I didn't know you knew each other". The tone of her voice had like a slight hin…
/r/seduction01/05/13 11:58 PM
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How is she making him jump through hoops for sex? Sex is an incredibly intimate thing for a woman and not something you force her to give you with an ultimatum. I already explained that women are insecure just like we are and one of their main insecurities is sleeping with a guy they like only for him to lose interest. I've had this conversation with multiple women including my current fuckbuddy not even one night ago. If he just cares about the sex then I agree, give the ultimatum and bail. But…
/r/seduction01/05/13 09:29 PM
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I always say "Thank you, i take that as a compliment"
/r/seduction01/05/13 06:11 PM
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yep. Pulled a girl last week and said the wrong name..never heard from her smh
/r/seduction01/05/13 06:10 PM
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you're shocked a forum full of men trying to learn how to seduce women are over-analyzing stuff?
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:32 PM
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This is difficult to answer because we like so many different things. For example one of my biggest turn-ons in a woman is intelligence. I feel like I'm kind of a know it all so with a lot of girls it ends up being me dropping knowledge and them listening or contributing significantly less to the conversation. I like a girl who I see as my mental equal. That includes matching my sarcasm and wit. Yeah a girl who laughs and says "oh stop" is cute, but I prefer the girl that throws it right back at…
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:27 PM
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agreed, those messages make you seem needy and insecure and ruin any chance you could have had in the future. I've done it before and it always ends up badly and scorching any chance I had, and its usually fueled by my insecurity. You need to realize no one owes you anything..sometimes it hurts because you know you're a good guy that can make her happy but there is no point in burning bridges (which I'm great at)
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:18 PM
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yeah next time I don't care how unattractive the chick is sleep with her...your virginity can weigh you down and its a weight off of your shoulders. Your virginity can make you feel needy and chicks can probably pick up on the neediness hence why you haven't been as successful as you feel you should be. I've had plenty of sex and I still feel many of the things you feel so you shouldn't feel too awful
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:14 PM
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"It's not like that. Despite however much hard they may have accidentally caused, they were coming from a good place. They have always been there for me, and honestly felt that I was needlessly breaking my back for an unreachable goal." Bullshit, you're rationalizing. Why is you seducing women an unreachable goal? Do you think you're uglier than every guy who can successfully seduce women? What the fuck kind of friend tells you to give up improving yourself because you're too unattractive? Telli…
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:08 PM
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also my suggestion would be to look at some pics of you from a few months ago or maybe even a couple of years. I find that it can be hard for me to be objective about myself due to past insecurities (I was over 300lbs) so by looking at a picture of a few months ago I usually can see myself from more of an outsider perspective and realize I looked much more attractive than I felt I did at that time.
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:05 PM
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You need new friends
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:04 PM
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I would but I feel like I've wasted enough of my time on a bitter douchebag for one day
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:01 PM
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So your advice to him is to rape her? Because that's what I am getting out of your post.
/r/seduction01/05/13 05:00 PM
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I think she is being genuine though. I just had this conversation with my fuck buddy two nights ago...a lot of girls have invested their emotions in guys, they had sex, and completely lost interest. Haven't you been hurt by girls? Do their actions not dictate your actions today? Its one thing if you only care for the girl in a sexual capacity, that's when you cut bait and go because clearly you have different goals. If he sees a future with her however nothing good will come out of forcing her t…
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:59 PM
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Now this advice you can listen to. If you really like her then just wait for her to be ready, you have no idea what her past is. Forcing her to give her body to you when she isn't ready because "you're a sexual creature" might guilt trip her into giving you the pussy but when she thinks back on it she'll view you as an asshole who pushed her into something she wasn't ready for. She sleeps over, she plays with your dick and let's you pet her...she's clearly interested. Don't let neediness/insecur…
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:55 PM
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awful advice please don't listen to this. You just said you can see a long term commitment with this girl, all this would do is validate in her head that you just want her for sex and it will probably push her away. Edit: its kind of sad my sound advice was downvoted in favor of advice that will surely push the girl away from him.
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:53 PM
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Honestly don't hold it against her or take it personally, we're just built different so she is protecting her investment. We are built to lose interest after sex and they are built to gain it...so I think the fact she is making you wait for it is a good sign she wants something serious with you she's just afraid that you'll toot it and boot it and you can't really be mad at her for that
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:52 PM
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Oh yeah, its just my passive aggressive way of showing my complete lack of respect for you
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:46 PM
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Or maybe you just lack complete self-awareness and are easier to read than a children's book. User 1: "Hey this is completely harmless, ask me stuff" User 2: "Who the fuck are you? You're no special cupcake no one gives a shit what you have to say you're not revolutionary get off of your pedestal!" It doesn't take much "projection" to conclude User 2 is a bitter douchebag that is clearly hurting about something. Isn't this community about being able to read people anyways? Sorry your bitterness …
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:43 PM
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That's hilarious. I come to the defense of someone else who YOU attacked for absolutely no reason and I'm the biggest cock on this forum? I have no need to project, I've been where you are before and every time I've jumped down someone's throat for no reason it was because I was hurting inside. I mean look at the first thing you say "Who the fuck cares that you cut off ties with the community!" "Get off of your pedestal!" At no point did he offend the community, at no point was he not polite, at…
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:35 PM
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That's like a basketball player saying they avoid basketball and you chastising them for posting on a basketball forum. What's with this community and having a complete inability with being smug?
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:27 PM
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Thanks for doing this. While I haven't gone as far as I would like in developing my game I have grown absolutely leaps and bounds since I started learning the concept 6 years ago at age 19. My problem with this community is the smugness and false sense of superiority too many guys in it have. They have insecurities which drove them to this in the first place, so to some level they start to overcompensate by being the opposite of what they once were. I used to be this way to some degree but then …
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:25 PM
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This doesn't apply to me, sorry bro. His tone was not deserving at ALL of the abrasiveness you hit him with. I've met your type in these communities too many times, you channel your personal shortcomings by being a dick to people. What the fuck did he say? That he was in the community and feels a lot of what they preach is incorrect? And you jump down his damn throat? Explain to me how my response to you is bitter in the least? I don't give two shits about you but you clearly hold this community…
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:10 PM
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Jesus Christ I felt the bitterness from a mile away. Look at how youre xoming at a complete stranger and why? Because he said he stepped away from PUA? The community is full of people like you, angry bitter individuals who feel life owes them something...and you blame him for removing himself from it?
/r/seduction01/05/13 03:33 PM
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im sure this charm is why youre on on a PUA forum
/r/seduction01/05/13 03:30 PM
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I believe all those things about you. My problem isn't height, I have former fat guy complex. I look 100x better than I did in high school and no one that would look at me would ever assume I used to be 315 lbs. I'm a good rapper, I've done a lot of cool things for a 24 year old. I can go to the club and feel like I have the most swag there because none of the other guys have the balls to dance on the dance floor like I do. (I shut it down, not the weird awkward herky jerky stuff dorks do) but s…
/r/seduction23/02/13 01:47 AM
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I think I see the problem. You're showing too much interest, this is something I have done often as well. When I really like a girl I get all romantic and start wanting to make these elaborate, creative gestures. And guess what? It blows up in my face every time. I've been called a stalker, a creeper, etc. As pure as your intentions are in your heart unless the girl is EXTREMELY comfortable with you she's going to be turned off by most of those gestures. Don't try to win her over by buying her o…
/r/seduction23/02/13 12:01 AM
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I wonder if women are cognizant of how often their friends cockblock them from potentially great men simply based on their judgment call. Its one of those social dynamics with girls that I don't get. I mean I get the merit when you're getting unwanted male attention but what benefit can come from a friend that cockblocks out of pure envy?
/r/seduction22/02/13 11:45 PM
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I would let them leave. I'd say "Oh I wouldn't want to interfere with your ladies night" then tell the girl I was talking to take care (go for a hug if we were vibing). If the friend hesitates somehow to try to keep me there then I'd probably say "Hey, give me your number and we'll do something soon". If the friend doesn't hesitate to keep me there then I go elsewhere and gauge her interest the rest of the night for any opening to re-engage. I would also be kind and say good bye to her friend (i…
/r/seduction22/02/13 11:43 PM
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women don't usually get that flirty unless you've put in some work. Women who off the jump are super flirty are usually a turn off to a lot of guys so they'll usually be more reserved until they feel safe, and you can make them feel safe by initiating kino, flirting. Female flirting is really more about giving you hints so you approach as opposed to jumping on your sack and making you feel like she wants your bone right then and there
/r/seduction22/02/13 07:13 PM
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I wouldn't risk it unless they've shown you a lot of interest. Comes off as creepy, as an abuse of power ( sounds like you're leveraging your ability to turn the internship into a full job for them into sex) and if you do it wrong and one of them talks it could really hurt you professionally. I'd proceed with caution.
/r/seduction22/02/13 07:11 PM
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I think you may be right, she's literally the first girl I met when I moved into town last month and she was interested. She invited me to hang out a couple of times (albeit never alone always in a party or group which sucked because a couple of her guy friends were really territorial and passive aggressive but I put up with it for her). Originally I only came to visit this town and when I had a foot on the way out that's when she seemed most interested. When she found out I decided to stay that…
/r/seduction22/02/13 07:06 PM
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great advice and was the plan of action I had in place, thanks for the validation
/r/seduction22/02/13 06:51 PM
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I think you're in good shape, she could have easily bailed after the boyfriend comment. If she comes in as frequently as you say if she doesn't contact you I would make some joke like "Now you owe me for the spill AND a coffee! tsk tsk. I trusted you with my number too? For shame" let her laugh it off or whatever and then tell her "how about you give me your number? it looks like I'll have to be the one to set things up if I'm ever going to get my debt paid :P"
/r/seduction22/02/13 06:16 PM
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girl that friend zoned me a month back contacted me out of the blue yesterday after I cut off contact with her. I want some suggestions as how to best proceed in trying to successfully seduce her now that she seems to have some sort of interest again because I don't want to push her away more details: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/19154l/letting_off_of_the_gas_works_especially_if_you/
/r/seduction22/02/13 06:12 PM
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this x100. Especially my situation, I got her in bed AFTER her first rejection which lasted a year. Then she came back in my life and I was playing out all the bottled in emotions from desiring her unsuccessfully for the previous year. Then she cut out of my life again about a year ago and now its even HARDER. I lost, got then lost.
/r/seduction22/02/13 05:59 PM
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I struggle with this because I've had success with other women, I don't feel like a loser and my self-confidence is at an all time high...but no matter who I meet, what success I have no girl stacks up to her. She is A1 in my mind. No matter how hard I condition myself to think otherwise, no matter how hard I try to move on, no matter how much time goes on I've yet to meet a girl to make me feel as smitten as she has. It screws me up because it makes me feel damn near emotionally unavailable
/r/seduction22/02/13 05:56 PM
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I don't give a fuck what these manchildren think on this subreddit. At the end of the day its a bunch of unaccomplished nerds trying to stroke their own ego by convincing a bunch of nobodies that they actually have game, myself included (though I figure I have more game than the majority of the "experts" here)
/r/seduction19/02/13 06:29 PM
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its a nice town, its big enough and has a very nice downtown and lakefront. Lots of breweries and bars. I just personally don't find Milwaukee women attractive for the most part. A lot of it also has to do with the fact that I don't feel I really have a niche in this city but many people do. The nightlife is not bad, covers are cheap and alcohol is a lot cheaper than in most big cities. Milwaukee isn't a bad city by any stretch but I personally just need a change of scenery. Maybe San Diego isn'…
/r/seduction25/11/12 08:22 PM
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you said it yourself, it seems weird which means he was different which is why it worked. She too probably asked herself "wow, who does this guy is calling me hun when he's that young he must have something going for him"
/r/seduction25/11/12 03:54 PM
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I've actually never had that happen so I find it fascinating. Did they tell you it was the friend and not the girl?
/r/seduction25/11/12 02:36 AM
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"Having said that I guess you could just learn to stop valuing women, especially attractive women. Believe it or not this is the root of about half of the PUA advice out there and while it can work, I think it's counter productive. Believe me, I've been there. You go far enough down that path and you can pickup just about any woman you want but it no longer feels good or rewarding. It's a sickly ironic thing. You finally can have any woman you want and that's the thing you wanted you're whole li…
/r/seduction25/11/12 02:03 AM
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You're right, I do have an inflated ego, it helps me with many of the ventures I partake in but it can also cloud my judgment and make me defensive so thanks for the verbal bitch slap, real talk
/r/seduction25/11/12 01:57 AM
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wait I'm confused, her friends texted you from her phone or from their phone?
/r/seduction25/11/12 01:54 AM
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Appreciate it, I look forward to 5 years from now and looking back and thinking "Just_Another PUA was so right" :)
/r/seduction25/11/12 01:43 AM
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If they can't provide help without being condescending then I don't give two shits about their advice. Re-read all my posts and you'll see anyone who didn't approach me like a pretentious dickhead received a genuine reply showing no disrespect. Its funny you bring up a high horse when I'm replying to people saying shit like "This is why you don't use this opener kids!" like I'm some pimply faced teenager lacking in experience.
/r/seduction25/11/12 01:35 AM
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while I find your post condescending I know you meant well so I'm not taking it personally, I just know I've been doing it for the last 5+ years and it has worked amazingly well for me, though I'm only 24 so I won't question the fact that I am young and misguided because that would be arrogant and ignorant of me.
/r/seduction25/11/12 01:32 AM
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I've had girls ask me to take a picture as an opener to talk to me, so you never know. Sometimes you have to get out of your head and realize some times a favor is a favor and they could have asked anyone else so why assume its some test of your self-worth?
/r/seduction25/11/12 12:58 AM
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well neither do I, I just wanted to share that specific aspect since lots of people write off thrift stores as bad hand me down clothing other people didn't want when in reality it can be a gold mine. And as far as bang for your buck I just really haven't seen any other stores where you get such a great value (legit quality clothing for the price of a whopper). also I personally haven't had trouble finding clothes that fits me but if that's an issue I could see why it would be difficult.
/r/seduction25/11/12 12:51 AM
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Is that not the point of the thread?
/r/seduction25/11/12 12:31 AM
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Yeah telling a woman she has beautiful eyes is so dumb why don't you share one of your canned openers you picked up from a PUA book written by a fellow virgin?
/r/seduction24/11/12 11:57 PM
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My club game is almost entirely based on my dancing, I normally exhibit some of the highest value in the club because I'm usually one of the best if not the best dancer on the dance floor. I've alpha'd guys off the floor just because they couldn't keep up with me (not direct competition, I hate dance offs with men trying to prove something to themselves) but rather just owning my spot and taking the spotlight. If guys are secure we normally work off of each other to multiply the energy and it be…
/r/seduction24/11/12 08:28 PM
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I'm starting to realize my best game is with women in the service industry (strippers, bartenders, etc) simply because I get to slowly charm them. One day I turned an interview for a local paper on the bar into a number close and f close a couple of months later
/r/seduction24/11/12 08:23 PM
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its hard though man, the heart makes you do stupid things but its also taught me that I can't be as forthcoming as I want to be and it kind of sucks, but that's the game
/r/seduction24/11/12 07:23 PM
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I believe you may be right
/r/seduction24/11/12 07:06 PM
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anyone who bashes you for opening up an old lady clearly doesn't understand the dynamics at play with PUA imo
/r/seduction24/11/12 06:26 PM
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you're absolutely right, I find that since clubs are human mating grounds even your own friends will turn on you if you pull a girl and they don't. I've been on both sides of the ball but I never look down on my friends because I realize its my own insecurity so I then go out of my way to be the best wing man as possible. Your friends are clearly very insecure and couldn't get over the fact that you attracted a girl and they couldn't so they feel the need to lash those negative feelings of failu…
/r/seduction24/11/12 05:07 PM
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always remember most club songs have a count of ONE TWO THREE FOUR...ONE TWO THREE FOUR, so start out by just learning that timing with your feet, you want one foot to match up with one count. Practice doing that side to side with the beat of the song until its natural for you to move at that count. Eventually when your feet no longer take brain power you'll start experiment with body position on the floor, moving your torso, arms, neck, etc
/r/seduction24/11/12 05:02 PM
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How I Met Your Mother is that show for me, its exactly as you described, I live vicariously through it and I connect with Ted way more than i care to admit. Hell, the girl I have a serious case of oneitis for is a girl that replicated the feelings I had for Robin in HIMYM, I even gave her a blue french horn necklace and said I Love You way too soon, and just like Robin the girl wants nothing romantic to do with me.
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:55 PM
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My problem isn't the rejection as much as it is the type of rejection. I'm a person that tries very hard to be polite to others even in situations were its not deemed so when I perceive rudeness to that level when I feel I said something harmless and genuine it irks me. You're right though, rude people are going to be rude.
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:52 PM
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I agree with most of what you said, and I was referring more to SwissPUA than you with the opener line. Of course if she reacted strongly I would pursue it, I guess what I meant is that my intention was to be direct, I walked around the club that whole night just doing short openings (like Tripp said in a video I saw just take baby steps and interact with a bunch of girls to work off any nerves), I viewed her as one of those "quick interactions" to condition myself away from AA. That's what I me…
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:51 PM
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I remember this guy coming up to me like a month ago and telling me "grab that girl's ass, she's not my girlfriend maybe she's into black guys". I just played dumb because I knew if I pondered into it too much I would have just wanted to lay him out and made a scene. Normally I just let shit go because normally if they are being passive aggressive its because they are pussies that same night I was dancing and some dude behind me comes at me rude with some shit like "Hey you wanna move? I keep mo…
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:42 PM
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I like this one
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:39 PM
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I do know their behavior, hence me saying its starting to wear thin on me. I guess when I first started going out women seemed like a prize so I put up with it. Now that I have experience and my self-worth is incredibly high I just don't have the tolerance to be looked down on by women because they can bring a vagina into my life
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:28 PM
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besides nearly every weekend the last 5 years where I've soaked more shirts than I can count shutting down dance floors, nope, never been to many clubs
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:15 PM
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and I understand that dynamic very well, which is why I try incredibly hard to not fit those stereotypes or ever make a woman feel like I view her as a piece of meat
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:14 PM
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I would feel that would be idiotic since that girl doesn't know me at all and wouldn't know about any of those things. I've had GAY GUYS compliment me on my looks when out and even them I'm polite and cordial and genuinely appreciate the sentiment even if there is no chance in hell. I guess I just don't see why that courtesy doesn't work both ways. I didn't feel like a beta in the least, and that's the key. I think the fact I went up to her and said what I wanted to say is as Alpha as it gets an…
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:10 PM
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I don't know, I didn't target her, I was walking to a spot on the dance floor, she was in my path, noticed the eyes and commented instantly.
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:08 PM
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the thing is to me it really wasn't about the opener, I was actually more focused on dancing. I was walking to my spot on the dance floor, saw her eyes (she was latina, olive skin and green eyes which just stood out like crazy) and I genuinely wanted to comment on it. I had no expectation of continuing any further than that comment because I was genuinely compelled to make it. If I used a different opener it would have been because I wanted to seduce her, but all I wanted to do was comment on he…
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:04 PM
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I feel there is a huge gap between "I don't want to be hit on" (ignore the fact that a dance club full of drunk horny men might be the worst place in the world to go if you don't want to be hit on) and "That guy had the nerve to approach me let me be a bitch so he doesn't make the same mistake again" Then one day you WILL go out wanting to be hit on but your sanctimonious attitude just jades men from even wanting to approach you.
/r/seduction24/11/12 03:56 PM
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Funny, because I ask myself if going up to a girl and sharing a genuine sentiment for 2 seconds is a God damn crime. Do you think only women are approached at the club? Not ONCE have I ever belittled a girl for approaching me and sharing a genuine thought even if I wasn't into her. So once again I'm not seeing anything new, other that shitty justifications as to why you believe you can be shitty to people you don't know, people who meant you no harm whatsoever. If you don't want to be socialized…
/r/seduction24/11/12 03:52 PM
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Maybe you go around your life viewing women as a pokemon you can bust a certain move on to catch, but I genuinely was smitten by her eyes and had no intention to pursue her past that statement. I live with the philosophy of "if I feel something, say it" instead of being the guy who sits back and calculates the best approach until the essence of the originally thought has been reduced to shreds. Next time I see a girl with beautiful eyes to the point I am moved to speak on it I will do that. this…
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:08 AM
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ha ha yeah, the funny thing is her friend spent the next hour trying to dance with me
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:08 AM
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I comprehend that, how is me complimenting her eyes changing that dynamic in the least? Did she put her make up and heels on and tell herself "I'm going strictly for dancing no men better even think of approaching me! because either way the thought is absurd
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:08 AM
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if any girl thinks a man approaching them at a dance club is creepy then they shouldn't go to the club
/r/seduction23/11/12 11:51 PM
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Yeah that's not really my approach, I always tell myself if I'm classy and didn't do anything wrong then I have nothing to prove to her. I did bite back at her with "I didn't mean any offense" in a very snarky tone, and I'm 6'2 with a booming voice so my snarky ain't very subtle
/r/seduction23/11/12 11:48 PM
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great post, and the 10 time approach is definitely the one I take, my issue is I pay to much mind to the misses as opposed to the victories. Maybe I just need to change to a more glass half full approach
/r/seduction23/11/12 10:53 PM
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except the guy can just say it right back with ACTUAL sting
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:43 PM
2

An Alpha would move on with his life and stop trying to find inner peace by attacking a person your own girl CHOSE to cheat on you with. To me the attitude you're showing always struck me as possessive, like you own her and another man came and took your object from you as opposed to the sentient woman you're dating purposely choosing to not be faithful to you. He made no commitment to you, she did and getting butthurt and trying to take it out on him won't change that edit: If you literally go …
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:38 PM
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Do what you do bro, but I made a thread about using dancing for seduction. If you want to go to a club and jump around like an idiot because you dgaf then more power to you, but it won't serve you at all when it comes to attracting women because its not attractive at all. So if you want to have fun doing the white boy wobble for 3 hours thats on you, I rather spend those 3 hours being just as silly, having more fun and actually attracting female attention. Not talking about you so please don't t…
/r/seduction17/11/12 08:15 AM
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try bachata, the footwork is easier and more natural in my opinion and its just as sensual
/r/seduction17/11/12 08:13 AM
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great post!
/r/seduction16/11/12 08:26 AM
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like I said its a fine line, it just does not come off smoothly in my opinion and its the go to move of guys who cant dance. I think the key difference is a "I may look silly but im going to have fun and get good at this" and "i csnt dance so im going to jump around off rhythm and be that guy who sucks at dancing". I find that when you learn how to dance you learn to do "silly" with style and swag. I always make goofy faces and have a ton of fun but im respecting the process while I feel dancing…
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:20 AM
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lmao that's literally how I dance...a little more style and rhythm buts its all about footwork and a lot of arm and hip movement
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:27 PM
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this x100 The music feels so natural to me that if I don't "feel" the song I have to force myself to dance with it which makes my movements come off as forced and unnatural. When i'm "feeling" the song however the movement flows out of you, your body instantly knows what to do and you're controlling 3-4 different parts of your body all at once and people will think you have balls of iron
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:24 PM
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you'll like it when you start feeling your body naturally moving when you hear music that moves you. I dance every where, in between sets at the gym, while walking places, in my room, in my car, when you learn to "feel the music" flow through you in a sense I'd say you love it. You're not gonna love anything you don't feel you're no good at, you're not going to love to play guitar if you play for two days and never try again. But if you practice a little bit, weekend after weekend the experience…
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:22 PM
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See but I want to differentiate between looking silly because you're experimenting and not caring, and people who "dance silly" on purpose for the irony of it. The latter is terrible, is transparent and usually lets me know right away the person isn't very confident hence the self-deprecation route. Never been a fan of tryhards so you have to watch the fine line between the two. Its all about intent, your intention should never be to look silly, you should look silly as a result of you learning …
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:17 PM
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a lot of those are really good, especially liked this one because its true People will notice you because you will walk differently – with posture, purpose and confidence that you have down to your bones (because you learned to MOVE). I’m not shitting you on this one. also the intimidation one! You WILL scare some girls away with your awesomeness, which is where you low-key steppers can walk in!
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:45 PM
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awesome
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:41 PM
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I mean I always enjoyed it to some level and always wanted to be good at it. Not like I grew up with a strong passion for it or anything, I just thought guys who could dance looked cool and I wanted to look cool. I would look at the guys breaking the music down with envy. Now I'm seen as that guy so I always encourage people who are dancing all out even if they look silly to keep going, make them feel comfortable for stepping out of their shell which requires balls. Once I got better and better …
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:40 PM
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what I do is I just blank my mind, I don't let the self-doubt creep in. If you're in your head dancing isn't fun because you're more focused on what others are thinking. Since I'm out at the club I'm usually drinking so that helps, but its really about saying "fuck it, I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks". You will NEVER be a good dancer without looking silly, its trial and error like anything else. In the silliness you start to pick up patterns that work or a creative move you'll have access…
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:37 PM
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I've seen incredibly large men salsa like maniacs. Hell the instructor at the local lounge who has won a bunch of competitions is a pretty large dude. Stop letting those excuses stop you, if anything I say knowing how to dance especially something like salsa is the best thing a larger guy can do to seduce beautiful women now. If you know how to lead a woman in a quality dance it makes it so much easier to pull her in, why not go for a tool of that caliber?
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:34 PM
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this is perfectly fine, not everyone needs to be a spotlight hog type dancer, I have a lot of friends who are a lot more low-key with their grooving and it works well. Me personally I like to show off and I feed off of people's reactions. I'm not the most technically skilled but what I do I do it big and with passion
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:32 PM
0

are you a real person? Holy fucking shit
/r/MensRights14/08/12 01:52 PM
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No not at all, I have no actual long term interest in this girl it would just be a fun conquest.
/r/seduction26/07/12 09:31 PM
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Quality post. I am a fan of PUA for the reasons you described because I realized it wasn't about corny canned openers that automatically trigger the wetness receptors on a woman, its about getting you out of your comfort zone so you get to thinking of how you can be interesting and different. When you pursue it you try new hobbies, learn new skills and usually improve on yourself significantly which is the key. Women to this day confuse the hell out of me and timing is usually off for me, but my…
/r/seduction18/07/12 10:38 PM
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