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Don't need that either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:50 PM
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You don't need wealth at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:48 PM
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Done, ma'am.
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/23 09:12 AM
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This isn't a tradcon ideal. Tradcons are all about getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:01 AM
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I agree which is why I think it's important to learn the ways of women before you become a success. Many men think you think need success to attract women but really it attracts a certain kind of woman. If you don't know how to navigate, attract, and vet women before you get money you are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:00 AM
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This is wrong and should not fall on a woman. Women should be provided for. Women don't react to stress well. It saps women of their feminine energy and exhausts them. Our society is sick and it's because we have weak men. Weak men ruin society from the neck down till everything rots. This is against nature.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/23 08:50 PM
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That's because everything you've expressed is an assumption on your part. Me = I, as a man, absolutely value a woman that's educated. An educated woman means an educated wife and mother. Everyone benefits. You = women shouldn't balance career and family. Me = I've said nothing about careers as a first option or priority. It is you that thinks education necessitates using it for a career as her first option because you have been brainwashed into thinking that education means about the career rath…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/23 03:49 PM
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No it's not. There's women outside of America now that are doctors and submissive to their husbands. We have a cultural problem including a poor life to work balance that doesn't suit the female gender. Women are taught to put careers first, to not rely on a man. I've said nothing of the sort.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/23 03:32 PM
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"when it first started" LOL It's not the case now is it? Nice strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:57 PM
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Because she aspires to have a family first and foremost. Having a family does not mean a woman must let go her goals. That's a western led feminist lie. In my religion it is a man's obligation to provide and he cannot stop her from making her own money, running her own business, or working her job. But she must be provided for. I not once said in my post anything about career driven women and the fact you liken that with a woman with aspirations says more of where we are as a society. Note that …
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/23 12:10 PM
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A big problem is a lot of guys don't know where to start because things are so organized and scattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:25 AM
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It's biological. Women can't help how they're wired and as a man why are you scared of leading? Because it means responsibility? Yup. Welcome to the real world. But with responsibility comes power and good use of power is beneficial to all parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:27 AM
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It's less women like assholes but more that women are attracted to confident guys and sometimes that might mean he's an asshole. You also perceive guys that aren't really assholes to be just that because we say what we are thinking and it goes against your narrative for how a man should act.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:19 AM
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Mallet? Rejection sucks? Who cares. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Without risk there is no reward. "Rejection sucks", yeah, it does suck and heat tempers the sharpest steel. Rejection is a fact of life. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:06 AM
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I agree that most men are not desirable because most men I encounter are blue pilled cucks. If we were in cavemen times these are men that would be too scared to make a spear to hunt a mammoth because they might accidentally cut themselves. Imagine having a daughter in this era of Basic Bitch Man. Good Lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:50 AM
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This goes against a woman's biological imperative. Women want a strong man. If she gives herself away why would she be attracted to you when you did nothing to earn her? And if a woman just gives herself away to you she might give herself away to just any man. The reason you're not picked is because you think a woman should belie her nature and turn herself into a man. I feel sorry for the pool of men in this generation. You are sad. Continue to work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:49 AM
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Basing your happiness on what happens to other men is a net negative of society (if men just decide to not marry what happens to families and what happens to community and what happens to our country?). Here's a title edit: weak men that need everything to be safe and base their decisions on other men should refuse to get married and stay away from the gene pool. You claim to be red pilled but you sound like a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:47 AM
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I always say this. For clarification , I'm a black man. I was raised upper middle class and every woman in my family (and we have lots of women in my family) is educated. Marrying a woman without a bachelor's is not an option. A woman without some aspiration is not an option. I want a strong wife as I am a strong man. I noticed that the men that don't care about a woman's education are lacking in some areas. They're also lacking in future sight: what if they have a daughter? Would they want thei…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/23 05:24 AM
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I read this and it's spot on for me. https://mindfulattraction.org/the-truth-why-nice-girls-are-boring-3-reasons-nice-girls-lose-to-mean-girls/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:17 PM
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Right. But nice guys are called "nice" despite not exactly being it so nice was the best word I had.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:58 PM
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What courting a "nice girl" taught me about attraction. Nice People (girls and guys) always finish last. I'm Muslim and courting a sister. This entire situation has really taught me a lot about attraction and relationships. On paper, the girl is nice. She's a nice girl in the same way nice guys are nice guys. But she doesn't know if she wants kids. She's not self assured. She's not entirely confident. On paper, yeah. She's a good girl. But she's not a challenge. She doesn't inspire me to become …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:46 PM
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Why are so many white dudes like this?
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 11:43 PM
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Men and women are inherently different and women are more chaotic and less grounded than men. They are ruled by their feelings and outside of a paradigm where women are beholdened to men as they were in the past for sheer survival, women are now free to do what they want but their feelings rule them. Understanding women starts with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:29 PM
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Bro there's an entire thing about this in the black community lmao Women will get with a felon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:21 PM
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Hahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:19 PM
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Never change who you are for women. Still be direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:02 PM
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That's because you fear women. The secret to women is to tell them what to do because they don't like deciding anything. This is what we call leading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:51 PM
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Because men overwhelmingly have to curb our nature. Our nature is to go out and have sex with any woman. We don't because there's consequences. Get a woman pregnant and you're facing child support fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:49 PM
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Not all women, mind you. But the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:20 PM
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You sound like a teenager. Women like being directed and told what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:12 PM
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Tell her what to do. "Dress nice for me.";etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:06 PM
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Dominate her mentally, lead her, don't take her shit. Then in the bedroom dominate her there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:41 PM
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I'm a tradcon though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:33 PM
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Agreed 100% except about female nature. In my mind it's a woman's nature to want to be dominated, utterly and completely, by a man and that's how men without means get to them with just pure confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:17 AM
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Men that complain all the time instead of taking decisive action are weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:13 AM
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I didn't say there's nothing you can do. I literally said you can manipulate it. You can dangle her hypergamy like a carrot on a stick. Also hypergamy should (emphasis) make a man want to work harder to be the best man he can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:12 AM
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Why are most red pillers bitching about women 24/7 then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:08 AM
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Red pillers do not accept female nature for what it is. They stew in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:06 AM
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No because a bunch weak ass butt kissers let them. Only a weak punk let's a woman walk all over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:05 AM
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Women act like that because weak men let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:04 AM
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Life is hard. Real men rise to the occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:57 AM
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I fully agree. Porn is so accessible so many men don't feel like they even need wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:39 AM
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We never said men aren't a threat. Men know other men are a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:45 PM
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I actually dismiss Tate as a bad male role model.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:22 PM
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Saying the right things at the right time like they're automated AI routines. lmao bro. Women are people with feelings. Your "line" likely won't work and not all the time. This is why it's best to be authentic and assertive. What happens if you don't know the "right" line at the right time? Women will know you're not being your real self. Women like men that genuine. Being "smooth" is noting something and having the balls to say it. Say I'm talking to a woman who has some food in her Instagram. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:51 PM
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You aren't worth debating because we are debating entirely different things. You: men need friends! Me: point to me where I said men don't need friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:05 AM
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You haven't read or comprehended a thing I said and for all you wrote you're an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:47 AM
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Dog tricks? That's your disgusting mind, not mine. Who is the leader in the relationship? The man is. This makes him what? The boss. She's more of an office manager. She goes to the boss to update and give her perspective. What do bosses do for a workers hard work? They promote (get engaged, marry;etc.) as well as reward (more vacation time off, a raise;etc.). Given this dynamic, any woman I deal with I make sure she's a hard worker and worth my time and up to my standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:08 AM
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Because men and women are literally made different. Women are far more social and find it more rewarding. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190130175604.htm Women need female socialization or they are more likely to get cancer. Women need socialization. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352827321001014 This doesn't mean men should be isolated. Far from it. But women thrive more in same sex socialization. They need it far more than us. It was not once inferred men sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:55 AM
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It wasn't said that most men have no guy friends. It was literally that female socialization among women is more important than male socialization among men. Men need Freida but we don't need to tell them every thing and can live off isolation more readily than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:01 AM
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"knowing the right the say" like a script rather than treating a woman like a human? You think you can say this and that and get a woman to like you? Doesn't that dehumanize her? You cannot get a woman to like you without being yourself. And if you lie she will eventually find out and lose trust in you and why shouldn't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:02 PM
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To me game is putting on a front to get a desired result. A game plan. I'm more laissez faire. If they want me, they want me. If they don't they're not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:35 PM
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You should only deal with women with vested interest anyways. Why try to convince a woman to like you? And yeah we are taught to suppress this part of ourselves. It's sad. A world with no simps would be amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:32 PM
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I'm religious (Muslim) and don't believe in sex until marriage. So I see how much harder men that base all their mate preferences off of sex are suffering compared to me, who vets every woman because I'm vetting for a wife, not a playmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:31 PM
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I'm 5'5
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:25 PM
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Edited my comment. I meant of worth. I'd say a fair amount. Granted I'm religious when why I say "reward" because I court women and not all women are worth being courted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:22 PM
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Game is never needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:20 PM
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No pick up line will ever get a woman of worth interested. Simply assert and be honest about your intentions from the jump.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:19 PM
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When you vet you reward. You don't let everyone come into your space. Vetting is a series of steps and if we show compatibility we go to the next step. I say reward because generally I only deal with women that like me and have interest. I do not try to convince a woman to like me. I'm not manipulative at all. I put all my cards on the table and don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:09 PM
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Women are less likely to be concerned with looks and more how they feel. Though looks help. In fact many handsome men are forever alones because women can get insecure about handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:43 PM
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I made a thread yesterday about how men are better than women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:38 PM
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Men's standards are too low in how they're treated dingus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:59 PM
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Who said anything about bigger Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:44 PM
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Where was it said men exclusively go for dimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:37 PM
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I'm a man..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:24 PM
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Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:23 PM
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I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:20 PM
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You obviously can't read. You inferred your own meaning to what I said. I never once said less conveniently attractive. Someone can still be attractive just less attractive than what a lot of men go for. It was never inferred less attractive women have more interesting personalities either. That's all you. Learn to read rather than be in your own pathetic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:19 PM
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You should vet a woman if she's worth your time before the date rather than rushing to include her in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:52 AM
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Society is already suffering by women taking over schooling and it being feminized.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:47 AM
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Wow, this is first time I've ever heard that about women with Nazis and then the allies. Is love to read about it. It helps further my point about the nature of women: they merely want security. Good counterpoint but look here's the thing: black women couldn't get with the victor because the oppressor (white men) viewed black women as less than. Pretty hard to get with that victor. This has bred animosity between black men and black women. Many black men chase after white women and this causes f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:41 AM
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Ah I'm s Muslim. Good insight from a Christian perspective though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:34 AM
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A man assigns his own power. I'm 5'5 and don't give an f. Women still find me masculine and I know my worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:42 AM
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Amen my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:56 PM
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Good thought! I never considered that!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:47 PM
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We have to lift our brothers up from the rubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:29 PM
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You think the conclusion was that porn is why men want attractive women rather porn is why men's standards are so unrealistic in terms of beauty standards and behavior from the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:24 PM
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Oh yeah my guy. I'm not saying attractive women are worse by default at all. I'm also not saying less attractive women are inherently superior. I'm talking about the BEHAVIOR.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:15 PM
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Whew you're my type of woman. I like that fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:08 PM
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Because most men these days don't know their worth nor their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:07 PM
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I never claimed to be a king once in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:07 PM
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I not once said ugly in this post. I said less attractive. Many men go after dimes rather than a 6 or 7. 7's are far from ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:47 PM
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It wasn't inferred that women that aren't 10's inherently have better personalities. Just that many men chase after women for their looks who treat them like crap. They're not even considering how the woman treats him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:47 PM
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Wanting attractive women. Okay. Placing attractiveness as the top priority when it's something people lose with time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:37 PM
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Here's the thing. Some women a guy would label a 3.5 is actual a 7 in my book. We know the sharp knees joke. A lot of men without options for some reason have higher standards for how a woman should look than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:33 PM
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Agreed. The same is true for women. Promiscuous men tend to be lacking something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:04 PM
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The feeling is mutual. You've been offended this whole time and I don't care. I'll continue to laugh at you. Keep it up, you're good comedy material.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:55 PM
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I don't follow that stuff and think a man that gets a vasectomy to not have children is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:53 PM
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You apparently can't read. I talk to people about in person and online with people that I know. Instead you latched on to me having online discussions because you're in your feelings but it's okay, I'm not pressed. You're an offended woman, there's nothing I can do or say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:43 PM
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I do not go to bars. I do not drink and I am anti pick up line. I do not pick up women. I think a man that wants to have lots of sex with every woman he meets is lacking something in himself and considers women to be meat. Pick up lines are anti assertive. What happens when she responds and you don't have a line after? They're dumb and lame. Self assertiveness comes from self love and self confidence. These days many are talking about gender dynamics. I like to talk to lady friends and man frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:32 PM
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You are arguing nothing but the perpetual mediocrity of men with no ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:10 PM
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They actively agreed and agree patriarchy helps women get what they want in a mate because it raises societies standards on men. Unfortunately many men get away with awful things under patriarchy. My assertion: women need patriarchy. They agreed. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:05 PM
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Just articulate my thoughts and get them out of my head
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:05 PM
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You aren't too smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:48 PM
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I have no problems with women. I will be making more threads on how men can be a balanced masculine and learn how to assert without being domineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:44 PM
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I've talked to many women about it and they agreed some patriarchy is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:43 PM
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I agree. You shouldn't deal with people that don't like you. But that mentality can also lead to laziness because "no one could handle my best self" without self growth. I do not deal with women I have to win over because I know my worth but it took a lot of growth to get where I am. They aren't lying but they they don't know who they are. As men we need companionship. The problem is many men confuse that need to be loved and valued with the need for sex. We live in a society that puts women's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:41 PM
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I'd shrug it off and chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:30 PM
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They're complaining because they have been conditioned to not know their value. My "men are better" thing is to wake them up to their value. No man should treat women badly. Not what I do. But he should know internally that he needs no woman to complete him. Many men aren't like that these days and go past warning signs and red flags for a pretty face and some pussy. But he doesn't know that deep down that he has a dick. Not just a literal penis but the one in his heart and that no person - man …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:24 PM
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It originally wasn't a CMV. Mods made it one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:11 PM
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Hm this is a very good consideration. I frame it as God > Men > Women > Children Thanks for the perspective!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:51 PM
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I'm on a break. Why are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:49 PM
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Did I keep my beliefs quiet in this thread? Nope. Some things aren't for every body to hear. The older you get the more realize you don't have to change anyone's mind. :) And some things are best kept to yourself. But if a woman talked to me plainly I'd tell her everything here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:49 PM
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Lonely? I'm living my best life and need no one else's validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:45 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:42 PM
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You think this is about proving to anyone anything? It doesn't change that less men are becoming doctors means there's a lack of men with ambition. We need strong, healthy men to lead a society. You think this is about proving something to women? We need male leaders for a healthy society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:40 PM
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You can look through history and around the world and yet women seem to want men that are better than them and conform themselves to their society's ideal. Women are more social. Research shows that women need female companionship more than men need male companionship and women that socialize with each other regularly are less likely to develop breast cancer. Men can absolutely be followers but men have a greater tendency towards leading and their own opinions. Women need each other.and do not h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:19 PM
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No men simply have more expectations placed upon them than women. Because of things like war there's always more women than men available. Women have to do less to find a mate. A man has to work much harder to get even a woman he doesn't find attractive. Because of the societal expectations placed on men as protectors and providers men grow up with and raised with more tools and things to learn than women are. How many women grow up shooting guns? Very few and most likely they're taught by? Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:08 PM
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No. In fact I say below that's the not the case. In terms of value placed by society and socialization men are better than women. If women are better why do they expect men to lead the relationship? As people, men and women are the same and before God just as fallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:57 PM
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Looks and genetics can attract a woman but they don't keep a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:49 PM
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You get it!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:47 PM
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It isn't just physical strength but also leadership. There's more expectations placed upon a man: leading the relationship, providing, protection. We manage the cars, we manage the guns, we discipline the children. This isn't to say what a woman offers is less than. It isn't and it's just as important but in terms of society and what society values, men are definitely seen as the leaders and guiders of society and therefore we are, in practice, better than women. But what comes with being better…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:46 PM
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It is on the men. There are higher standards placed on men than women. If less men want to become doctors then we got a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:18 PM
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The truth is you don't say this to women but you have the attitude and know deep down that it's the truth. This is the Red Pill for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:10 PM
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Guys, see the reaction from the women? They can't take it. Women operate in how they feel at any one moment. Therefore it's pointless to argue with them. This is why you must remember you have balls and to never let her lead. Always take the reins in the relationship starting from the first word. Show you're worth respect, don't ask or beg for it. Assert.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:58 PM
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If you read the OP you'd see I wrote out "not literally better" but of course, you got mad. But I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:50 PM
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For the record, a woman's feelings aren't inherently negative. They're honestly a positive. I just lay it on as it is and don't find it to be a negative. It can be negative, it can be positive (a mother's love). It just is. Frankly I look up to many women. Women are ruthless and don't give up. Because women lack the physicality of men they're far more strong in their mental. Women can manipulate. You ever see teenage girls destroy the new girl because the boys like her more? Women are savage and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:49 PM
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It literally says things men and women don't want to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:45 PM
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Haha humans are social creatures that conform to rules. Every society on Earth can be examined and prove me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:45 PM
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Haha I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:42 PM
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Read it. I explain pretty clearly. A man must work to win in this world. A man's job is to protect and provide for women no matter what society says. This is why despite the feminism women still expect men to lay on dates and have better jobs or make more money. This is embedded in them. This means that men are over women in terms of hierarchy. Women don't want to admit this and they don't like to hear it but they know it's true. In every interaction with women a man should add a new tool to his…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:41 PM
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Hey! It says facts men and women don't want to hear. I told you. Men are more likely to listen to it. Women are in their feelings and you can tell a woman anything and she won't believe it and she feels she's right even if she's wrong. This is why arguing with women is pointless and why leading is how men aspire change in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:31 PM
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OP here but in many ways it does. Because a woman dependent on a man taking care of her makes her more vulnerable which triggers a man's hero instinct and strive to be a better man for her because there's more riding on it. I'm not red pilled in the sense of this sub but self sufficient women create an environment where men become more comfortable and more mediocre because they can get laid without commitment and women want to do 50/50. I became a far more masculine man after becoming seriously …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:36 PM
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Blue pill isn't traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:44 AM
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Who gives a fuck who calls it a toxic masculinity characteristic? You'll lose the women that aren't worth and attract the women that are. You are being defeatist and not thinking in abundance. Read some books. Give it a shot. https://youtu.be/G8ZCNJJJ5q0
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:04 AM
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Learn self control. This is why the self improvement side of red pill is far better than the getting laid side. Invest in Stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:47 AM
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I like your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:27 PM
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Because there's men willing to put up with it, showing they have lack of spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:29 AM
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It truly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:08 AM
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You should be vulnerable. But no one likes over emotion regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:56 PM
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I assure you that's not attention and I'm sorry that it comes across that way. I'm not keeping track of my vulnerability. I literally wrote a part in a series about vulnerability and I thought an example would help. That's it. There is no tracking of vulnerabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:45 PM
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You absolutely are. Translation: I'm not going through every single conversation with every woman and I am not going provide any further examples (which the conversation is) and you should figure this out yourself. I'm not saying I have other examples. I'm saying I'm not going to provide more from personal conversations. You suggesting there's a spreadsheet and shit and getting that from all that is...odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:37 PM
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You said access to sex but I'm genuinely not trying to have sex with these women and legitimately want to save sex for marriage for precisely the reasons I gave. Saying you were sexually assaulted is not performative. Your comment is insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:34 PM
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I'm so sorry I like to write? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:32 PM
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Where did I say I have a bunch of examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:31 PM
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I don't have a spreadsheet lmao. I wrote this stuff days ago but the mods told me to break it down to separate threads. I had written the text message the day prior so when talking about vulnerability it just crossed my mind and I copied the message. As for the other comment, it was written this morning. Hardly a spreadsheet. You are making a lot of assumptions on your part. I'm not using the right amount of vulnerability to reel her in at all. I'm just being real. She asked what I was doing and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:28 PM
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Interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:20 PM
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I'm confused. In my example I told her about the old lady which results in the woman discussing her experiences in the field and her own vulnerability. I'm not using it as leverage at all. I expect her to be vulnerable the way she expects me to be. I didn't say to do this in a calculating way at all. You're inserting intention that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:18 PM
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That's a fair assessment and frankly I don't have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:13 PM
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I think genuine vulnerability is fine. Crying is fine. The problem is when ranting at women and complaining incessantly is labeled as "being vulnerable."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:09 PM
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I disagree. Like, they're examples. How would you prefer I provide examples? I also do not confirm I have a big penis or what its size is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:08 PM
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In what way should I articulate it then? Vulnerability can come up at any time in a relationship. It's definitely not a strategy on my part. The entire thread is about men and vulnerability and how to properly be vulnerable. Ironically, you suggesting "you should start slow and build to more substantial openness" is a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:00 PM
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No it's about being in control of yourself and your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:59 PM
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That doesn't make it transactional. I literally said you should respect a woman's boundaries and not treat her like an emotion sponge. That to me is transactional. Also, I'm expecting that when I do be vulnerable that she reciprocates with her own vulnerability. What transaction is being made here exactly? Her feelings? Two humans connecting? You think I'm being vulnerable to get points? Because I assure you that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:54 PM
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In what way is it transactional?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:49 PM
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That is not my intention at all. My my refutation is that Red Pill says women dislike vulnerable men. The sex toy comment was written on Reddit, in public forum, and not in private to a woman. It's just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:49 PM
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Red Pill is about getting laid but we've got Red Pill Women and Red Pill Marriage in the sidebar. There's dudes on YouTube like DariusM talking about how "it's your turn" therefore, not making it about having sex but killing your feelings for women. You can say,"it's about getting sex" but most of the platforms men use about RP are within a relationship context and many men already in relationships are subscribing to the Red Pill, ruining those relationships. You will have to provide evidence to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:37 PM
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Nope. Like I said it plays a role but I'm not interested in women that think it's a big deal. Flirting my ass off with a woman that's taller than me now. She's known me since we were kids and she's speechless at my confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:20 PM
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Never? No. But it's not a massive hindrance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:09 PM
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I'm a black man and feel similarly to D'Angelo. This last weekend I went to two restaurants to celebrate my birthday. While walking to the registrar every single time at least one woman would look at me and then look at my crotch. It's very dehumanizing as if I'm just a walking penis. When I was a teenager a girl put her hands in my pants and grabbed my penis without consent, without warning. I had also been told by girls when I was young they only get with men with a certain size. In college on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:08 AM
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No. I just don't think it's in a woman's nature to "monkey branch" or be "hypergamous".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:34 AM
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Here- https://youtu.be/H4Ifwyy6Ubw There - https://youtu.be/UtDXPO5gEYY Oh and here too - https://youtu.be/ZG4VR0pCSiA These guys chase these women because of their looks and not their character so they end up with women they didn't properly vet whose values they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:00 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:32 AM
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Women don't hate a bunch of guys who go on the internet to just bitch about women? Sure about that, chief?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:16 AM
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I'm not blue pill lmao and most women hate red pill. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:52 AM
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This is a class issue. Women in upper classes are always educated. No one wants to raise an ignorant daughter because that means they'll have ignorant children even if there's a nanny. Look at the era of Pride and Prejudice, War and Peace. Many of the characters are based off of real life counterparts. No one could factually say that Elizabeth from Pride and Prejudice was uneducated. On the contrary, women of the caliber were educated and often in university settings like the author Jane Austen …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:30 AM
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In Islam I am absolutely forced to court and after becoming Muslim I greatly prefer it to dating and highly suggest trying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:18 PM
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I tried the PUA/red pill thing once when I was in a bad state and women HATED it. I quickly realized it was a load of bs. I don't suggest talking to just any woman. Talking to lots of women can lead to lots of rejection which can disable your ego. Talk to multiple women but be selective. Are you religious? A big problem with our society today is men don't have a means to even talk to women because they're not as religious or have a center to meet women outside of college. And yeah I meant less r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:07 PM
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Courting also gives me lots of power and say in what I want out of a wife. I can pick and choose specific characteristics and choose not to pursue her because she has behaviors I don't find attractive for a potential wife. You act like it gives women all the power when it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:04 PM
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I used to flirt with red pill. I know exactly what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:54 PM
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More female friends and being less risk averse and talking to as many women as possible to learn and see what works, what doesn't, and see women as individuals while also making room for the type of woman you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:49 PM
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Yeah I don't think it's a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:39 PM
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The problem is that Red pill is a full on cult. It's like the opposite extreme of kissing a woman's butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:31 PM
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Nah. It exists. But it's not as big a deal as they think. It's also a big reason I suggest ditching online dating. You might be 5'7 but a woman can't tell your swag or demeanor from an online app.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:17 PM
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You're right. I think I responded to the wrong comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:15 PM
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I'm not a white knight at all lol. We have different ideas of what "sealing the deal" means. For you it probably means having sex with her. For me it's marrying her. We are not the same and I don't have to "seal the deal" in my case to know I'm pretty good with women and know what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:14 PM
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Why would a man want to deal with a combative woman to begin with? Why wouldn't he just get up and say,"no one disrespects me like this. This was a mistake?" Why would he get to the point of dealing with a combative woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:10 PM
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Sure about that? If you're middle class or upper middle class or full on upper class and you were raised a certain way and your mother was raised a certain way and she had a specific standard she met educationally why in the world would you not keep that same standard in your family? Logic dictates that if my family was raised, when I was a kid, pretty well off and my parents came from education that I should value that in a partner. Also, my family is traditionally upper middle class. My grandm…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:08 PM
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I'm not putting the blame on men. I'm just saying I don't have any trouble with women despite going against the red pill no no's like being 5'5.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:21 PM
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I excuse women because men are up to the same thing and are just as problematic. Re: men that have lots of partners tend to increase single mothers. Yet no one gets on these men, just the women, when both contribute to the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:08 PM
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As said, this is a series. This is just the first one. It literally says series in the Title and also says Next Time. I was forced by the staff to condense my viewpoints and make separate threads for each one. As for dating, yes. I think it would benefit men to stop using date apps. But that's a completely different topic and one I want to explore later. Courting is not simping. Lol. The whole point of this is that Red pill devalues women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:05 PM
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"Female nature" is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:03 PM
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There is no one "Islam culture". Islam isn't homogeneous. It's a wide spread religion with multiple interpretations and ties itself to the culture of the nation, just like how Christianity in America is different in Canada versus America or Europe or South America and how each nation interprets it with a different lens via their culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:03 PM
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I still talk to non Muslim women and they like me just as much. Non-muslim women still want to date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:37 PM
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I deleted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:29 PM
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Not all Muslim men are like me, just a warning. I call out sexism in Islam frequently. Unfortunately sexism is everywhere, whether against women or against men. I came to these views from my own life experience and what I personally value. Of course a lot of these values also come from Islam so 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:00 PM
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I am not denying it because I don't think trying to change the mind of someone that thinks Muslims are rapists is worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:58 PM
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I still think this is a product of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:51 PM
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Who cares. She's now with you. Why are you even assuming she's had sex with way hotter guys? Why are you assuming every woman is a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:49 PM
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Also doesn't negate the fact you have painted an entire religion a specific way like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:46 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I said about red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:41 PM
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Sure. No one is perfect. The premise isn't wrong though. What you're supposed to do and what people actually do doesn't take away from the content of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:39 PM
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So what if women were promiscuous in their 20's? Are all women promiscuous? I highly doubt it. How does a woman being promiscuous in her 20's have anything to do with me, the man she's dealing with now? Only an insecure man would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:36 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I was born and raised in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:35 PM
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Being emotionally vulnerable has gotten women to be attracted to me easily. You're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:35 AM
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Thank you for doing what you do. I will read them. =)
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