Most men here aren't truly Red Pilled even when they say they are

Updawg145 · 2023-09-07T06:21:49+00:00

RP just means you understand how shit works. It doesn't mean you're some "alpha" male or some shit, lol.

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-09-07T10:03:41+00:00

Being redpilled means that you are aware of the truth. It's that simple really. Whether you use that knowledge to your advantage or not is irrelevant and doesn't make you any less redpilled.

International-Pool29 · 2023-09-07T09:28:46+00:00

Honestly most self-proclaimed red pilled dudes come across moreso as reformed betas and socially-aware outcasts rather than some straight up turbo-jock that got groomed hardcore by red pill ideology overnight

Even peeps like Hazma and Sneako got to still deal with their own fair share of insecurities and inadequacies

sexualdeskfan · 2023-09-07T07:42:55+00:00

I agree that most men on here aren’t actually red pilled, if you just take red pilled ideas like the wall, female hypergamy etc but you don’t actually use them to try get women it’s not TRP. I think this sub is actually just full of black pill and MGTOW people tbh.

That said I don’t think you have a great grasp on what the red pill actually is. Being Red Pilled was never about being strong or an alpha male.

Swordfromthecement · 2023-09-07T12:30:08+00:00

It’s the same way that understanding how a car works doesn’t make you a mechanic.

No I am not red-pilled

AcrobaticRhubarb2147 · 2023-09-07T16:32:54+00:00

Red pill is just men putting on grown mens clothes and pretending to be alpha. It’s putting lipstick on a pig. It’s dress up time. They aren’t fooling anyone. Maintaining frame is a farce. Men who are alpha don’t need to tell anyone they are alpha, people just know. Most men are abject cowards

Able-Imagination3695 · 2023-09-07T21:21:59+00:00

This is what I've been saying. For a group that praises alpha men, providers, strong male figures etc, they sure fall short at the very description of a man that they aim for.

And why? Because they're not actually working towards gaining the validation of that type of man, they're way too busy centering women in their lives and gaining the validation of guys who are also struggling. They are dragging each other down and the instant gratification of getting support from a group of weaklings is much easier than putting in the work to become someone their ideal man would want to associate with. Instead of working towards being a strong and valuable man, they're out here high fiving with crybabies. How the hell can you expect to level up when you're too scared to leave your weakling circlejerk?

In fact, if you were to take the average red piller's definition of a high value man and make him real, that guy would want nothing to do with the red piller. He would think he's pathetic, he's whiny, he's weak.

A lot of guys on here highly underestimate the importance of generating other men's respect, especially for women. And if those other men are her family member? Oh, its paramount. For example, I could never date someone that I know my father - a self-made provider who generates respect from other men and women - would never respect, much less approve of. Not happening. And man, can he smell the bullshit off of dudes.

Honestly, a lot of it, IMO and IME, is a lack of strong masculine role models and a father figure in their lives. They do not know how to act around a real man, much less know how to attract women as a result of that.

ROBYoutube · 2023-09-07T06:00:08+00:00

Haha. It's true. All manosphere spaces are the most emotional places on earth. Just not a lot of variety to be had.

mvnnyvevwofrb · 2023-09-07T08:27:15+00:00

Red pill are just guys who are disgruntled by women. It has nothing to do with being an alpha male.

mrcs84usn · 2023-09-07T06:19:54+00:00

MGTOW fall under RP, and so do MRAs.

Sorry some RPers don’t live up to the strawman that you’ve built.

RonMexico432 · 2023-09-07T14:20:32+00:00

It's not much different than PUA, back in the day. The second they're challenged or a woman doesn't answer a text fast enough, they'll immediately revert back to a needy simp. Asking themselves if she's mad, or banging another dude with a big dick.

Rogue5454 · 2023-09-07T06:32:43+00:00

Nah….I’d say that’s pretty on point with Red Pill. Always “whining” they can’t get a woman and all.🤷🏼‍♀️

Lovers691 · 2023-09-07T06:05:53+00:00

You're using the word manlet wrong. I also don't think men want women to approach them because they are scared, it is just that rejection sucks and a lot of women complain about not like it when men they are not attracted to approach them so the responsibility should shift to women if it bothers them so much.

crystalballfog · 2023-09-07T06:46:53+00:00

Any tom, dick or harry can call himself redpilled, does not mean much. It only matters if you are a high value man or not.

I see a bunch of men that complain, that are emotional.

Nothing wrong with complaining as long as you are actively working towards either finding a solution or accepting that you can't change

Yet you claim to be red pilled, you claim to be strong, you claim to be alpha

They are claim whatever they want, doesn't mean shit. Because being redpill or being alpha doesn't mean shit.

We have failed our son's and turned them into castrated manlets; men in name only.

Nothing that can't be fixed. Thats what redpill came into existence for.

I have a saying

If you can't wish your worst enemy the best, and if you can't tell the woman who you love more than anything in the world to fuck off, you are not a real man

Because a real man stand up for something more than his ego and his emotions. How many men cry on reddit that their wives don't fuck them but they can't leave because they made the vows or they lurve her.

So you go on a journey to become a high value man, you lift weights, you work hard to earn money and progress in your career, you learn game, you learn social skills, you make friends, you build your network.

And soon you realize that you are not entitled to anything, you will be fired from job if you don't justify your paycheck, you will loose your network if u don't provide adequate value. Girls will ignore you if you are not able to emotionally stimulate them enough. Only saving grace is friends because you are not expected much there, just don't be net negative and they will generally stick with you, because there is not much cost to them from just hanging out will you and listening to ur problems.

Its very lonely because you are alone. But the journey is worth it. As your value increase, doors open for you. Its not easy, it requires hard work but its doable.

Its the hard work that gives you a sense of self. But it comes with territory. Most valuable resource a man has is his time and he will spend it on things that adds value to his life. A high value man has abundance of options so it makes sense that he would go for the best option. He understands that he is not owed anything and he does not owe anything to the world.

That transformation we see in marriedredpill where men are willing to leave their wives even though their marriages are very good from average standards. Why because they have OPTIONS and they worked hard for their options.

There is a reason r/redpillwomen have serious dislike for marriedredpill when they are okay with redpill. They are okay with redpill men hooking up with women and leave other men for them to build relationships with. MRP joins those two worlds and brings the reality of sexual dynamics in the realm of marriages where women generally have upper hand. HVM are not that common and last thing they want is for their husbands or potential husbands to be aware of a community that not only teach them to cultivate options but which is also amoral and accepting in breaking marriage or infidelity if they are not provided with enough value.

Even in the redpill women community there is an incentive for keeping men ignorant. So you can't blame men, they are highly indoctrinated from the childhood. That doesn't mean that u can't call them out on their BS. There is a long transition from boy to man, its same for blue pill man to redpill man.

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mariahcolms · 2023-09-07T10:31:54+00:00

it’s like a battle or something

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-09-07T10:39:24+00:00

I think you're referring to two separate groups

esdebah · 2023-09-07T11:08:05+00:00

Yeah. It's a bankrupt ideal. No human is ever fully redpilled

Vegetable-Rub3418 · 2023-09-07T12:45:30+00:00

Men that really want women to approach and ask them out because they're too scared to do so. Yet you claim to be red pilled, you claim to be strong, you claim to be alpha. Sad. We have failed our son's and turned them into castrated manlets; men in name only.

You tried. Most men who claimed red pill when it first started were simply talking in terms of knowing the truth

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-09-07T13:15:26+00:00

1) at PPD. Red is black, purple is red, blue is whatever red or black don’t like and pink is just rage bait to trigger Red

2) If you could truly be red pilled then you wouldn’t need the RP

3) Identifying as RP to feel superior is cringe if you don’t at least drop your lifting program, dude hustle, and social hobbies while doing it. Cause fact is: the only the RP is good at is getting dudes online talking about RP to our RPs online. All the time.

sync_error-uwu · 2023-09-08T02:58:35+00:00

lol you obviously havent heard of reverse psychology, we are playing 4-d chess and you aren't qued in. Soon it will all come together, you'll see, you'll all see!

TheFallenAngelWhoWas · 2023-09-08T03:13:59+00:00

You seem to be conflating being redpilled with possessing "alpha" behaviour.

If we're going strictly by the original meaning behind the red pill metaphor (the Matrix metaphor), being redpilled simply means being made aware of the truth of reality - in particular, of the truth behind dating/relationships/mating dynamics/mate selection/etc. Typically, this is done by becoming aware of scientific research studies, data, experiments, surveys, and other such evidence which allows one to understand the world as it really is, often shattering bluepill fantasies that one had accepted while growing up.

Title	Most men here aren't truly Red Pilled even when they say they are
Author	JupiterJazzX
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Date	September 7, 2023 5:54 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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