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Fair enough. In my experience up to this point, I believe the only worthwhile approach to life for me is doing the most amount of good and the least amount of harm that I am able.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/24 05:05 AM
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Shit tests don't exist. They are just situations that make someone feel inadequate or incompetent. Normal humans don't think like this. Yeah, war makes for an interesting book topic. It's dramatic and exciting and easily exaggerated and the less glorious elements conveniently disposed of. It's written for people who want to feel like they know what that shit's about but don't actually want the associated hardships. I don't have time for it. Most of Hemmingway included. I've also experienced over…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/24 03:50 AM
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Friday nights and she'd get jealous of my time, I told her where she stood in line when it came to my priorities (my missions always come before women) and that was the end of her tantrums Ugh. I'd recommend making it your mission to only sleep with people you respect and not people with mentality of children that you need to discipline with your very cool masculinity. Just like Hemmingway. Dipshittedness aside, it is important that a person find their calling. This is what's known as 'self actu…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/24 01:45 AM
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Thanks man. It phases the OP too. He's just being told to ignore it by people with your outlook. Makes me wonder if they've just desensitised themself from feeling bad about being antisocial.
/r/seduction20/05/24 05:36 AM
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Experience. Holy shit. If everyone forgot everything they read online and just went and were around strange people, they'd be better off. Theory is actively harmful because most of theory out there is actively harmful and bad. The only parts of the old theory that is sound is 'go out and talk to people'. It gets just constantly more insane after that. DO NOT APPROACH. That is antisocial bullshit. Make friends and socialise. Don't approach. Socialise. Big difference. E: For posterity. I've finall…
/r/seduction20/05/24 05:33 AM
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I'm not saying don't fail at all. Here's where the OP is at: Now I’m just feeling so scared because I hope I didn’t scare her or make her feel afraid or come across someone who’s creepy. When things like this happen I lose my confidence and just get scared from approaching. This is the correct response to that. He should not ignore this feeling as a bad feeling. It is not an 'achievement' to feel this, it's a lesson. He should be commended for feeling terrible for being socially incompetent and …
/r/seduction20/05/24 05:25 AM
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because i understood that being short (5'4) was a big turn off for women especially in dating apps. Ah. You listened to the internet and let them make up your mind for you. Bad decision. Anyway, it sounds to me like you're socially anxious, not socially incompetent. If you're able to make friends, you're able to get a girlfriend. The reason why you can only get friends and not a girlfriend, is because the anxiety fucks everything up and you behave like a fucking weirdo because you're terrified o…
/r/seduction20/05/24 05:13 AM
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This was directed at the moderators who have me on the 'ask an adult' list because they can't argue with what I say but really dislike it. It was never meant for public consumption. But it's still valuable advice. Like everything I say.
/r/seduction20/05/24 04:57 AM
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<shits pants> CONGRATS DUDE MANY GUYS DON'T HAVE THE STONES TO SHIT THEIR PANTS IN PUBLIC HERE'S A MEDAL
/r/seduction20/05/24 02:16 AM
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NO lol what the absolute fuck. You bothered someone that is NOT GOOD you want people to LIKE you DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS lol this is not a steam achievement holy fuck you morons
/r/seduction20/05/24 02:11 AM
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This entire sub is about learning to manipulate women. Wrong. I'm here. Not for much longer I think, but in general, yes.
/r/seduction20/05/24 01:21 AM
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I won't judge anyone's morals, but lying to obtain something from someone repulses me on a visceral level. If your morality system is similar to mine, that bad feeling might be about this. The real measure of a man is who he is and how he acts when he thinks no one else is looking. "So what you told a little lie to a cougar who wanted to have fun anyway? Nobody will ever know." That's you. You lie to get sex. If you think that's not the type of man you want to be, it is within your power to chan…
/r/seduction19/05/24 04:15 AM
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Why do people like this gym approach? It's literally the only place with other adults they regularly go and being desperate and horny in between sets they start mooning over some girl just trying to work out and their fixation leads to them asking this, here, at twice a week. Just a guess.
/r/seduction18/05/24 01:21 PM
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lol. Extremely good telling off. (Which is the same script she hears over and over and over because every guy does this) No. Every guy does not do this. Nobody does cold approaches except for pickup weinies because they were told to by fucking loser dipshit from 20 years ago who gets to decide what you do because he was a character in a popular book - again, 20 years ago - about lunatics with no friends trying to script fucking.
/r/seduction18/05/24 11:32 AM
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Maybe. Hopefully he responds.
/r/seduction18/05/24 09:31 AM
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I have had previous relationships where i was not able to spice the situation up to have sex. What? Can you please expand on this.
/r/seduction18/05/24 08:13 AM
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When I don’t think of dating a girl I would be fine talking to them. Why?
/r/seduction18/05/24 08:11 AM
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Has anyone else gone through something similar? Yes. Everyone. High school is a bubble. Safe. College is new and strange. But it is also a bubble. You'll probably find another period of awkwardness when you get into adulthood proper, but it's unlikely to be as jarring as high school to college. I’m not sure how to fix this - maybe I need to go out more and talk to new people. Nailed it.
/r/seduction18/05/24 08:10 AM
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No, it's not lose lose. Lose is when you desperately try and regain the attention of someone who isn't fussed about continuing the date. Your definition of 'lose' is all fucked up my guy.
/r/seduction18/05/24 06:52 AM
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Yeah, no true Scotsman. I of course don't do the bad thing from 2012.
/r/seduction18/05/24 06:24 AM
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That's fine man I have no intention of trying to persuade you.
/r/seduction18/05/24 04:13 AM
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Yes, it can, on other people who are not attuned to social norms. You are out of your mind if you think transgressing social norms with no apparent awareness that you're doing so is a net positive.
/r/seduction18/05/24 03:34 AM
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I mean, I'm sure it would work for some women. And it's better than interrupting them or freaking them out. The problem is the absolutely zero filtering. I would estimate that maybe 1 in every hundred or so girls if I'm lucky would gel with me well enough that I'd bother to date them. If I used this method, the strategy would have to a) work and b) guess correctly with a hundred sided die just for me to be on a date and enjoy myself. Do you guys absolutely not give a single fuck about anything t…
/r/seduction18/05/24 03:31 AM
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No. It's a fucking terrible use of time. You are training yourself to not feel embarrassed when you transgress social norms and ignore the feelings of women. Those are really, really, really fucking bad habits to learn.
/r/seduction18/05/24 02:26 AM
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Oh my god. No dude. Absolutely develop as a person. In fact, it's really fucking important to do because that's how you be interesting on dates. You know what you don't talk about on dates? Two other peoples fucking lives lol
/r/seduction18/05/24 02:16 AM
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Sensitive lol
/r/seduction17/05/24 11:53 PM
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Where did I say I don't believe in improvements?
/r/seduction17/05/24 11:53 PM
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Ok. You're wrong, but I'm not your dad or anything. Watch weirdos recording women without consent on a date.
/r/seduction17/05/24 11:53 PM
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Can I ask why? Dates are to find out if two people like each other. If you pretend to be somebody else, it's a ticking clock until you run out of material, the mask drops, and she bails.
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:31 PM
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Do not approach in a small town and be a weirdo at women. You will be the town weirdo in no time. If you want to build social skills, volunteer in the community. Small towns, it's all about community. And your 'status' in that community is important. When potentiially interested women ask their friends 'who's that' do you want the reply to be 'oh he volunteers with the elderly and works at x' or 'oh he is the local sex pest, stay the fuck away'?
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:29 PM
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No. It reaches a ceiling when you be a weirdo in front of her.
/r/seduction17/05/24 08:19 PM
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She's already showing 'big signs of attraction'. Whatever you're doing now, that.
/r/seduction17/05/24 12:06 PM
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We don't know your girlfriend I assume. Ask her.
/r/seduction17/05/24 07:01 AM
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You don't love and miss her. You're experiencing 'separation anxiety'.
/r/seduction17/05/24 06:36 AM
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I hate when that happens. I didn't ride a bike for 4 years and got on the handle bars and tried to push the wheel forward with my shoes.
/r/seduction16/05/24 11:47 PM
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My dude, you are in your own fucking way. Double text. Write a big ass essay if it's interesting and funny. Text back straight away if you're free and have time. It's good to show that you like someone. Have you ever had a girl you liked text back right away 80% of the time and just be obviously interested in you? Did it feel really good? Do you think women don't feel the same? Get out of your own way. Stop dating according to lunatics online. You talk about filtering your dates by listing your …
/r/seduction16/05/24 11:06 PM
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Solid reasoning man. There's no reason to ignore some online pickup guy when the student of Freud and himself one of the most distinguished figures in psychiatry despite being pretty thoroughly discredited today got to do it when he was alive and horses were the dominant mode of transport and 8 year old children were being dipped into chimneys and dying of black lung by 9.
/r/seduction16/05/24 09:10 PM
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Because 4 billion is a fucking massive number, and life doesn't revolve around women.
/r/seduction16/05/24 09:00 PM
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Oh no. Who will call me a sex criminal when they can't argue against the things I type if you're done with me? Oh yeah the parade of other weirdos. C'est la vie man.
/r/seduction16/05/24 08:18 PM
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The fan fiction you lunatics are writing is starting to get insanely fucking weird.
/r/seduction16/05/24 08:07 PM
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Yes. Do you seriously think that all 4 billion men fit into 4 categories as defined by an internet seduction guru and literally nobody else? Especially not academics.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:59 PM
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You got a degree, and you think alpha males are a real thing?
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:53 PM
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When somebody understands a concept, they're able to explain it without spending half their word count whining about women. Watch. I'll show you. What it means to never chase: Be entirely self sustaining. You don't require attention. You don't require messages. You don't require sex. You don't require approval. If you need literally anything from a woman, you are chasing.
/r/seduction16/05/24 07:48 PM
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That's incredibly honest and involved a lot of self reflection. Good for you. If I had to suggest some things that might help you, lose the 'friendzone' lingo straight away. If a woman turned me down for a date but we still got along as friends, I'm not in the friendzone. We're friends. The 'friendzone' only exists when a woman declines your offer and you still hold feelings for her. Lose the language to describe that first. You don't need it. Remember, they do not know you. They do not have the…
/r/seduction16/05/24 06:15 PM
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I'll tell you what man, do what you think is best. But copy and paste that sentence into a notepad and don't open it until 2034. I promise you that in exactly 10 years you will smash your palm into your forehead so hard you'll become that meme.
/r/seduction16/05/24 09:34 AM
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Women and gay people do poetry. Real men do... whatever this is.
/r/seduction16/05/24 08:03 AM
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My advice is to stop hanging out with them. You will not fuck this person. You are extremely and obviously wounded by her rejections, but you are not listening to her. She has told you on separate occasions with words and actions she does not want a romantic relationship with you. Either stop trying to have sex with her and her friends and just hang out with them because for some fucking reasons she seems to actually think you're cool to hang out with which is insane, or just stop hanging out wi…
/r/seduction16/05/24 06:58 AM
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Sounds healthy to me man. Have fun. Good luck.
/r/seduction16/05/24 06:48 AM
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Dude, I promise you, if you put no pressure on her and you're cool about it, you can see if she's up to date and still chill out if she's not. 'Hey would you be interested in leaving the cats at home one day and grabbing a coffee with me? No pressure I'd still very much walk cats with you if it's a no.' A lot of weirdos would critique call you gay until you think what they say is correct because they're scared that if they give a woman the option to say no she'll take it. In my experience, women…
/r/seduction16/05/24 06:43 AM
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You know there's nothing wrong with just being friends with a woman right? A lot of guys panic and think 'FUCK IT, THIS MIGHT BE MY LAST CHANCE, INITIATE CLINGING SEQUENCE' and try and force something that is just not there. But if there's chemistry, and there seems to be some though that could be because you're typing the story, ask her on a date. Be very direct that it's a date, where two adults see if they want to do intimate stuff, don't hide behind cat walks or whatever.
/r/seduction16/05/24 06:23 AM
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Long term relationships are insanely hard work to maintain, and most people don't bother. Some are unlucky enough to be naturally compatible enough with a person that you get to the stage of moving in with them or getting married or having kids before the fact that you haven't been maintaining the relationship starts to become a problem. As the kids / work / house stress increases, the individuals spend nearly no energy on their partner, and literally none on themselves. They 'forget' who they'r…
/r/seduction16/05/24 03:59 AM
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Is that what you'd regret? Not hitting on women? Not constantly going after desire? I'm going to do something unusual and recommend a book. It's not a long read, and I think it might help you. Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. You've probably heard of him. He was a literal emperor. He could do literally anything. Experience anything that could be imagined in the entire world. The entire populace at his command. Armies loyal to him. What would you do with so much power? Think about that, then have …
/r/seduction16/05/24 02:44 AM
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This is the logical end point of a lot of 'seduction' enthusiasts. You hyper-focus on the superficial aspects of dating and experience superficial dating with superficial people and they treat each other like accessories. Then they wake up however many years down the line and they realise they're not happy, and have no skills to progress. Back at square one. Do you have many male friends that aren't 'wingmen', like actual friends of multiple years?
/r/seduction15/05/24 10:06 PM
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Ah. I see you're casting some sort of spell. Well, I'll leave you to it.
/r/seduction15/05/24 12:32 PM
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Dancing can be many of things. I have danced with plenty of strangers in clubs where it’s a one or two song and done. Wow. Good think I didn't specifically cover exactly this right here: is either totally platonic dancing with friends By the way, what is this: Then I’d have times where we get hammered and run the night. Is this an advanced type of dance that leaves the performer unable to read??
/r/seduction15/05/24 11:25 AM
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Strangely, I find that guys severely underestimate how big a deal dancing with you is. Especially in nightclubs where the music is the focus, dancing with someone is either totally platonic dancing with friends or basically hooking up. Asking a woman to dance is basically like asking 'hey, want to hook up infront of your friends and everyone'. Bold strategy Cotton. Not saying it can't work but if you're wondering why you're not having success, maybe think about this a little.
/r/seduction15/05/24 10:23 AM
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It's weird how dudes constantly ask what to say and never inquire about how to listen. I think this observation says something about the massive problems inherent to approaching dating with this mindset.
/r/seduction15/05/24 02:11 AM
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In social situations, consciously refrain from fidgety movements, raising the pitch of your tone, increasing your tempo of words, or feeling internally "giddy'. In my experience, worrying about the pitch of your voice is how you over-think yourself into freaking a woman out. No amount of money, status, fitness, or followers can do what self control does. This is a powerfully succinct and accurate statement.
/r/seduction15/05/24 02:09 AM
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Huh. Usually when podcasts or whatever feature a doctor my brain always puts "Dr" in scare quotes and I expect the content to be full of bullshit with advertisements for testosterone creams. But that all looks like interesting and generally good advise from my inexpert opinion, even if the subjects aren't strictly relevant, it certainly wouldn't hurt to get your leg strength up, improve your VO2 max, and get a good nights sleep that's for sure. VO2 max advice reminded me of study I read where yo…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/24 01:54 AM
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Has even referenced me and my cousins (again, all ladies) in some of his red pill content which is just sitting so uncomfortably with me. That is fucking terrifying. Ok, that re-contextualises things a bit. Please don't feel in any way obligated to this man. He is a grown up, he is making his embarrassing choices. Some of which involve featuring you in his stories to other fucked up online weridos. Please don't try and cure him or 'fix' your family. This guy is functionally insane and maybe even…
/r/ExRedPill15/05/24 12:36 AM
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De-radicalisation is not a well understood topic in academia or anywhere else. They do know that 'former' members of a group are highly affective at creating or enlarging the cognitive dissonance that eventually drives radicalised individuals to snap the fuck out of it. Probably because former members know all the lingo, all the ways that their own brain was fucked up, and the 'logic' that snapped them out of it. If there are no former members, then someone who at least fits the 'in' group as th…
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 11:29 PM
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No, my logic is in line with Australian government policy experts who labelled incels as a literal threat to public safety.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 11:22 PM
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Why the fuck are guys challenging themselves to feel alright with deliberately misunderstanding social norms and customs? You know that is unlikely to make you better at getting women right? May I suggest challenging yourself to find ways to naturally interact with women so that the women enjoy their conversations with you and for you to end the conversation without her having to think about calling the police? It is so fucking weird to see guys who WANT to attract women setting themselves chall…
/r/seduction14/05/24 11:16 PM
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Are you saying people weren't mowed down with a gun on several occasions?
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 10:54 PM
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Nah, not particularly, it's that respect is something I don't compromise on. Self respect or respect for others.
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:54 PM
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That’s what social people do lol
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:53 PM
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Hahaha dude I've already lived a few decades as an adult. I've already seen what the things I recommend can do. Very cute you believe their advertisements about numbers though lol.
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:52 PM
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Yeah. Anyone who needs to lie or deceive in order to fuck is a weasel and I don't respect them.
/r/seduction14/05/24 11:35 AM
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This is where the manipulation begins. Lol. Not just content with becoming an effective communicator, naturally this is where being a piece of shit really begins. Fucking hell lol.
/r/seduction14/05/24 11:07 AM
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Have you ever been to LA? Or Ibiza? Somewhere where there are hot people just... around? Being normal? Because they're just people. And no woman is 100% my type just from looking at her. That would make me a shallow piece of shit, and also someone who doesn't know what attraction is so you'll excuse me if I don't engage with that. And no, I'd suggest you make friends.
/r/seduction14/05/24 09:49 AM
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Make an argument instead of armchair diagnosing me like all you fucking weirdos start doing the second you realise you have absolutely no arguments for me.
/r/seduction14/05/24 09:12 AM
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You are out of your mind if you seriously think this. Everybody is still out getting fucked up. Everybody is still fucking.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/24 08:20 AM
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Cool. Get those reps in. It's good to meet as many people as possible.
/r/seduction14/05/24 07:26 AM
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Well, no not at all, but even if it was, that would be a fucking massive number of people. Think of going to a house party with 15 people you know. They'll all know a few people, and bingo bongo, you now have non-weird, introduced access to half a hundred new people at just this party. The good thing about having friends is when you're out, every single person in your friend group will start naturally networking with surrounding groups of people and integrate, allowing you introductions to dozen…
/r/seduction14/05/24 06:49 AM
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Good for you man. There was no need to do the weirdest shit and starting off on the worst foot but you did it anyway. Like a boss.
/r/seduction14/05/24 06:16 AM
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I prefer just having lots of friends and being introduced to women by people they know so their defences are already way down because I come recommended by people they trust which leaves me in a much better position to have fun conversations that are productive.
/r/seduction14/05/24 06:13 AM
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Cold approach is by far the most efficient if you are limited by time and dont have time to build and maintain a social circle. Sure, you absolutely can cold approach like a weirdo. Hell, you can even succeed at it. I'm just saying there is no need to start an interaction with a woman in the worst way possible living just a normal life.
/r/seduction14/05/24 06:12 AM
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I walked long way in improvement with women You have a long way to go. Whatever 'indications' you got that what you said and did would be cool was clearly wrong so I wouldn't trust those 'indications' in future. Yeah, it hurts, it's embarrassing. That's life.
/r/seduction14/05/24 04:46 AM
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It's been discussed for like 20 years and I think it's pretty obvious that it's the worst and least effective way to pick up women on earth.
/r/seduction14/05/24 04:42 AM
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Yeah people looked at young people being mowed down with a gun and made a fair judgement on the label and ideology I think.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 12:59 AM
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I don't really think about who / how much other adults are fucking because I have a whole life that takes up most of my time and to be honest it sounds like a fucking weird thing to do, for weirdos who are not fun to be around.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:24 PM
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Oh no :-( did a woman prefer another man? What a bitch. How could she forego all this jealousy and insecurity?
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:21 PM
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Oh no! People living their best life doesn't include you in this case! Wahhhhhh! I'm going to self destruct the relationships I've built because I'm emotionally still a toddler!
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:20 PM
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Yes I can absolutely see why. You are deeply insecure and treat everyone who isn't you like absolute shit. I would rather hang out with nearly anyone else on earth than you and I only know what you've volunteered to me proudly.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:19 PM
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Er, yes if you handled literally everything in the worst possible way, that would happen. If you understood that women you're talking to do not belong to you, you would have no problem with your friend shooting his shot, and no problem with two adults choosing to have a relationship with people who aren't you.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:17 PM
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Yeah you really, really need more friends in your life so it can shine a light on all of these really glaring insecurities that you need to fix before you become a serious sexual candidate in the eyes of women with eyes.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:13 PM
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Why? It is trivial to not be a fucking weirdo around people you've dated before but it didn't work out. If it's weird and messy, it's because you are weird and messy and have work to do.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:12 PM
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There is no stress associated with having good friends. What are you talking about?
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:06 PM
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You sound like you have an awful lot of work to do on yourself, and your ability to form and maintain a friendship group is a relatively minor social skill when compared to an intimate relationship. If you can't maintain one, you are just absolutely fucked on the other.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:06 PM
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You should make friends instead of cold approaching so you actually have a fulfilling life alongside attempting to date.
/r/seduction13/05/24 10:53 PM
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You are being inappropriate towards people. If you trauma dump on people without being insanely good friends with them first, they are going to get the fuck away from you. If you want to be able to correctly gauge what is appropriate, don't tell anyone anything more personal than the equivalent of something they've already confided in you. Until you learn to read the room properly, use that as a guide.
/r/seduction13/05/24 07:04 PM
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Desperation. People don't like it when people behave in a desperate way towards them. Even after they tell me or show obvious signs they like me. Wow it's almost like you don't know what you're talking about. You have an amazing combination of being extremely wrong but extremely sure you're correct. Enjoy.
/r/seduction13/05/24 06:48 PM
1

Having a lot of friends is the easiest way to clear the safety barrier at nightclubs. The more people that hang out with you by choice, the more likely it is you are not a huge piece of shit. Double points if your friends are women.
/r/seduction13/05/24 09:08 AM
0

I don't blame you, that is insane behaviour. I mean, insane, but seems harmless enough. If you like him I'm sure there's an avenue to ask him why he starts being insane mid-sex and if he can cut that out in the future but yeah nah that is weird behaviour for sure.
/r/seduction13/05/24 08:42 AM
1

while having sex he stopped briefly and said he needed ten mins it was hot and heavy (he legit stopped and had a cigarette and talked for some time) in that time he told me he was demisexual and that he felt a connection to me I don't know how you went through this without putting your clothes on and leaving and then telling all of your friends so you can make fun of him.
/r/seduction13/05/24 08:39 AM
2

That's right, time for fanfiction with an exclamation mark! Not embarrassing!
/r/seduction13/05/24 08:36 AM
2

See how you're writing fanfiction about my sexual success? That's because you are embarrassed of the things you think but need to try and make me go away because I'm making the cognitive dissonance hurt your brain.
/r/seduction13/05/24 08:34 AM
1

When your advice needs 'bitches be crazy' to make your advice just not the most worthless dog shit like 'women like to be abused', maybe your advice fucking sucks my guy, and you're an embarrassment to yourself.
/r/seduction13/05/24 08:27 AM
3

I don't know you or what works for you in anywhere near the detail required to give accurate specific advice but especially when out on the town the standards for sex aren't exactly astronomical you just have to be attractive to them and convince them you are safe enough to go somwhere with and disrobe.
/r/seduction13/05/24 02:31 AM
1

You sound already socially equipped for this. In fact, I don't know how you have evaded one night stands thus far. The principles are exactly the same as your long game. They still need to know the same info in the same amount in order to like you enough to sleep with you. You just need to know what those things are for you, and communicate them to someone who is receptive.
/r/seduction13/05/24 02:15 AM
-2

<banging fork and knife on table> WOMEN FAULT! WOMEN FAULT! WOMEN FAULT! WOMEN FAULT!
/r/seduction13/05/24 02:00 AM
-2

Exactly. So it's WOMEN FAULT!!!
/r/seduction13/05/24 01:56 AM
-5

Yeah. It's definitely nothing to do with your inability to communicate as effectively in real life as in a dating profile. Women are definitely targeting and doing mean things towards you, possibly in collusion with the CIA. Don't stand for this man. Be vigilant. Never accept that you're bad at something when there's a woman alive somewhere to blame.
/r/seduction13/05/24 01:50 AM
15

Generally I just try and be a better partner in every facet of being a partner than her ex was. It's very hard for them to go back to their ex when you are better than them in every regard.
/r/seduction13/05/24 12:54 AM
17

WOMAN: Wow. That line was so cool and not at all something a sex criminal would say, all I can do is just say it back to you. Also, I exist and am not being made up by a weirdo.
/r/seduction13/05/24 12:38 AM
1

Do you know what percentage of all women are single? By the time you reach middle / older age, that number for women is close to 50%. So your 'super social' exploits not accidentally coming across a single woman is such an obvious impossibility and lie I am embarrassed for you. I think you are embarrassing, and I feel sorry for you for lying this obviously.
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:18 PM
2

You are lying. Really, really badly lol. You're the only person who can play '6 degrees of separation' and not get to Hitler because none of your friends know anybody lol
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:10 PM
0

Quote the bit of the OP's life you're striving towards attaining. Is it the 20 whole sexual partners in a fucking entire year lol or are you partial to the crippling depression?
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:36 PM
-1

No, you loser, 'real men' don't look after themselves and become empty, severely depressed husks.
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:34 PM
0

I seriously cannot fathom the type of fucking moron that screams and cries at me 'diagnosing' the OP then doesn't even flinch when he types this without fucking imploding of embarrassment: sociopathic Good diagnoses freud lol
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:30 PM
0

Yeah, it's funny to do so.
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:26 PM
-2

Keep praying and one day god will send an angel to smite me and my 'all theory' answers that nobody can argue with for some reason lol
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:25 PM
0

Yeah man he sounds so happy lol do you morons even think for like a second before typing?
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:15 PM
0

Yes, I do not have the psychic ability to diagnose him, but I'm free to have an opinion and he sounds absolutely fucking miserable to me.
/r/seduction12/05/24 02:14 PM
0

Oh I've spent decades fucking around. Whatever my number is dwarfs the OP's. The difference is I like and respect women, so every time this moron was busy making himself as disgusted as possible with the people who let a piece of shit like him have sex with them, I was just having fun with someone I liked. I'm not superstitious, but if there was a thing called 'karma', I bet a lifetime of treating autonomous humans like things for his sexual pleasure would leave him a husk of misery like that wh…
/r/seduction12/05/24 12:00 PM
1

Oh really? So not once has any friend of yours introduced you to a single girl? Not once? Not in all your super social time? Wow. That sounds like... a lie!
/r/seduction12/05/24 07:44 AM
-9

lmao. Yeah, this post definitely screams 'desensitised' to me. It is so embarrassing that everyone here wanks themselves crosseyed about how logical and rational they are while being the most emotional garbage fires themselves, 100% of the time. Hey OP, congratulations on still counting the number of women you sleep with in your 30s - something I stopped doing almost immediately after having sex for the first time like two decades ago. I guess it really sucks to have finally had enough sex for y…
/r/seduction12/05/24 07:18 AM
-4

Yeah sure, and winning the Tour de France will definitely stand you in very good stead for your local cycle for charity event.
/r/seduction12/05/24 07:09 AM
0

I really don't know why people choose to lie about shit like this. My dude, if you were 'super social', and cannot name a single way in which it benefits you, you are lying.
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:25 PM
261

Every second you spend building a social base instead of cold approaching will be paid back to you infinitely. It never stops paying off.
/r/seduction11/05/24 07:02 PM
1

This doesn't make sense. You wouldn't be asking what flirting was if you could recognise it being literally done to you. And if you were being flirted with she was giving you an instruction manual on flirting because in order to flirt back you'd just have to reply like a normal human. Because then you'd be literally and by definition returning flirtatious comments and thus, flirting. You don't flirt AT someone. You flirt WITH them. If they lead, follow, and you're doing it.
/r/seduction11/05/24 03:43 PM
1

Why would I do the worst and least effective thing on earth in order to date?
/r/seduction11/05/24 03:31 PM
1

Mmm. You should try actually arguing with me and look really surprised when I humiliate you publicly. Or you can just obsess about my post history until you think you have enough 'bad' adjectives to make only the most cowardly wieners with no arguments ignore me. Whichever lol.
/r/seduction11/05/24 03:30 PM
1

while a woman who hadnt had sex in 1 year just hanging around a mall Ah yes. Just 'hanging around a mall'. A favoured past time in 2024. Of adults.
/r/seduction11/05/24 11:37 AM
2

Sure, I mean it is possible that someone could have friends but take timeout to do something as socially embarrassing as cold approaching. Doing something as socially incompetent as that is just heavily associated with being socially incompetent in general resulting in the aforementioned zero friends.
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:57 AM
1

You have to first change who you are, and then be that new person. Partial credit. You absolutely do have to work to be better, but meeting women does not exist in a future. It exists in the present. And yourself - dogshit as it is for a lot of people - is literally the strongest suit you can play.
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:55 AM
1

I strongly distinguish between talking normally to people and the act of cold approaching. One is the sole method of meeting women because they have no friends, the other is talking to people normally.
/r/seduction11/05/24 08:22 AM
52

If you go to a small little town like Berlin and go to places like Berghain you might have some foreign experiences.
/r/seduction11/05/24 04:38 AM
-7

Women have never, ever liked cold approaching. Cold approaching was popularised by dorks with a sex drive and no friends back in the mid 00s, because they were dorks who had a sex drive and no friends and therefore no 'normal' way to meet women. Not because there was less feminism or whatever the fuck. It is continued by dorks with a sex drive and no friends today because there are dorks that exist today with a sex drive and no friends.
/r/seduction11/05/24 04:20 AM
15

You know the advice is really, really good when sexually unsuccessful men get really, really mad when you give it. 'Be yourself' is some of the best advice you can get, correctly understood. But I rarely explain it correctly because it's too funny to just throw out there and watch a them have a little melty. Personally, sex with 'crazy' women I've found to be generally pretty fucking awesome. Expecting things of 'crazy' people is where people make the mistake in my experience.
/r/seduction11/05/24 04:13 AM
2

People who have never interacted with a woman IRL shouldn't be expected to be able to tell, so allow me to assure you I'm being extremely serious.
/r/seduction11/05/24 12:37 AM
3

Women don't give a single shit about your 'mystery'. In fact, women equivocate 'mystery' with where 'being a misogynistic dipshit' lives. Women love men who are emotionally mature enough to expertly communicate a range of feelings while being highly resistant to embarrassing and dangerous secondary emotions like anger. If I was to guess, you don't understand why you are repellent to women on a long enough timeline and are desperately trying to blame them for not being able to handle your feeling…
/r/seduction10/05/24 11:58 PM
-4

There is a lot wrong with this but if I had to leave one note it would be if this is true for you: The game isn't over once she's at your place though. What the fuck is she doing at your place? If she isn't dragging you back to somewhere private, you have not done your job. Women want sex too, and when they want it with you, they are not fucking shy about it. e: lol he blocked me. Bet you guys can't wait to take dating advice from somebody as masculine as the OP lol
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:39 PM
14

I think in the last year or two I've read some variation of this: One girl I had a good date with didn't reply for days afterward like a thousand times. Guys. Guys. You did not have a good date. You said or did something they fucking hated, and you did not notice. Women are not aliens. When they have a really good time with someone they really like, they behave like it in 99.9% of cases, and the remainder some other aspect of the independent adult lives got in the way of them continuing to happi…
/r/seduction10/05/24 10:52 AM
4

You don't know that. Or you wouldn't have specified this: goes in a way I don't want it to You think you know that, but you haven't actually thought about it.
/r/seduction10/05/24 10:33 AM
1

I like using recordingyouforeducationalpurposesiswearofficernowaitpleaseimdoingthistobecomebetterattryingtofuckwhereareyoutakingmecanikeeptherecording.net for all my being extremely fucking weird needs.
/r/seduction10/05/24 10:30 AM
22

When you realise you can't control interactions with another autonomous entity. Just your part.
/r/seduction10/05/24 10:28 AM
9

You're probably dating noted Batman villain 'Riddler', punch him until he submits if you are Batman.
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:45 AM
24

Ok. If that's the price of your self respect, sell it.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:21 AM
1

Who needs it when I can just tell losers like you that they're losers and then they'll give me all the armchair therapy their cognitive dissonance can bang out.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:11 AM
1

Thanks for the diagnoses, freud. I'm starting to wish you had enough of a spine to stand by your embarrassing block now. You'd give an asprin a headache.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:07 AM
32

Have you got your notebook ready? Here goes: you stop hanging out with this person, and find actual friends. The type that big you up to women.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:04 AM
1

No, it's my respect for things like 'their jobs', but keep mewling. I'm sure what you want to do will become morally correct soon. And thanks for unblocking me. Less cowardly. Still cowardly. Just, less.
/r/seduction10/05/24 01:01 AM
2

No, I wouldn't lol. I'd think 'wow, I need to be way more interesting', and then think of ways to communicate where I don't get this response. I don't have a fucking impotent hissy fit at her lmao
/r/seduction10/05/24 12:24 AM
0

See how I just responded? If I was at work, I'd have said 'Sir, keeping in mind the constraints on her ability to answer honestly, might you reconsider being a snivelling fucking worm?'
/r/seduction10/05/24 12:21 AM
1

You are a coward to do this. There is no way you can say with a straight face that her not having the ability to express her full range of emotions at your proposal because she is at fucking work you dipshit is not a cowardly thing to do. E: Because the not-a-coward blocked me, I just wanted to lol at being evil for not believing in pressuring women on the clock.
/r/seduction10/05/24 12:20 AM
1

No. No. No. No. No. If she is on the clock, leave her the fuck alone. You want to ask her out? Wait until you meet her somewhere where her decision making isn't influenced by losing her fucking job. Jesus christ.
/r/seduction09/05/24 11:44 PM
2

You stop dating according to the feelings of other men and have some fucking self respect and also have respect for the women you're dating and stop letting people tell you how unworthy they are of you you spineless worm lol
/r/seduction09/05/24 11:37 PM
22

Don't try and look at it from the lens of facts. They have no basis for what they think in the reality I'm aware of.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/24 11:35 PM
2

It's also not, not interest too. Conversation is conversation. It's the only way to find out if you dig someone after all.
/r/seduction09/05/24 06:14 PM
9

I am 99.9999% sure that: No. Adults just talk to each other some times. She is a grown woman and doesn't know you.
/r/seduction09/05/24 06:02 PM
2

I danced flat out for like 15 years and got into no fights caused by me minding my business. It was the women's decision. I swear if dude's wanted the konami code to pussy, dancing is probably as close as it gets. It's efficacy is genuinely absurd. The downside is that you need to spend literally hundreds of hours inputting that code so no-one here is interested lol.
/r/seduction09/05/24 06:58 AM
34

You tell her where you stand, and you ask if she can meet you on those terms or not and you become a FWB or you separate. Unless you mean how do you have your cake and eat it in which case, you lie. Be a complete coward, and lie. That should cover your bases. Choose as applicable.
/r/seduction09/05/24 06:21 AM
-2

I don't think you could call the stepped on dog shit going round London back then 'coke' but feel free to be a nerd regardless.
/r/seduction09/05/24 03:48 AM
-5

Wooo this is easily my most popular post lol. Question for mods: If I can get advice to become good at something to be appealing to women while being otherwise completely average to single digit % upvoted, can you please just sticky this and shut the sub down? Because we will have reached peak seduction.
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:15 AM
-8

Oh you read it? he has absolutely no fucking game
/r/seduction09/05/24 12:28 AM
4

Yeah I'll hold it. You should explain why you like reading about other men having sex now and how it helps your game.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:46 PM
4

lol what a weird way to communicate that you're insanely mad. At least I know now why you speak about sex like a virgin.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:40 PM
3

I had my virginity taken by a gay girl like 2 decades ago nobody cares dipshit.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:38 PM
3

aka Tyler Durden Ah yes, Mr. I Didn't Get Fight Club, Mr. Not Allowed Back Into At Least 2 Countries For Being A Sex Criminal and Recording It / Posting It Online.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:37 PM
3

Yeah. This guy has women to have normal sex with. He's got no time to read about what an embarrassment he is. Fuck off, me lol
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:35 PM
17

What the fuck is this shit. I had to check that I hadn't fallen into an erotic fiction subreddit. Do people want to know about every time I wipe someone else's dna off my balls? Ah well let this stand as a valuable lesson to all. You can be this much of a fucking weird cunt, and be at least this bizarre and sexist, and still fuck. I promise you, you can fuck. You'll fuck more and a lot faster if you do the exact opposite of this freak, but I swear, if you just get out there, you will succeed.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:32 PM
1

I'm happy for your success, especially with the handicap of not knowing anything about women.
/r/seduction07/05/24 10:16 PM
1

You don't understand why women are rejecting you.
/r/seduction07/05/24 09:36 PM
6

Friendly (ha!) reminder that friend zones do not exist naturally and women have zero involvement in their existence. They are built entirely by sadacts who then sit down in them and start crying. You will never be in a friendzone until you put yourself in one.
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:49 AM
0

There is not a quicker way to be labelled a creep than to talk about sex with people you've just met. Maybe taking covert pictures of them and getting caught. But aside from that doing what you are planning to do will get you labelled a creep speedrun style. You be sexually appealing by being the type of man she's into which in 99.9% of women's case would be not-a-creep. Put yourself in women's shoes. You've just met a strange guy, are you hoping he talks about sex to you? Or are you hoping that…
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:24 AM
1

I could, but it wouldn't be of any use to you. It will come naturally to you if you genuinely put yourself in the shoes of women you don't know and look at yourself as strangers see you. Until you have internalised that and understood it, aping the things I do wouldn't help. When you have internalised and understood it, you won't need me to tell you what to do.
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:16 AM
4

The problem here is you're trying to use techniques developed by non-threatening computer twinks as a terrifying huge guy. You need to understand and acknowledge how you come across to most women who are going to be literally half your size in some cases. They would choose the bear. The approach that works for me is contrast. I'm a big, scary motherfucker. My resting bitch face was honed as a bouncer. I am in the running for least approachable looking person in any room. I combat this with being…
/r/seduction07/05/24 12:50 AM
3

You go out with your friends and come home massively depressed? My dude. What a waste of life. Anyway, did you ever consider that what you are doing is massively offputting to women? I think you nearly do, with what you said here: The worst is when I approach and then they look funny and turn away. Women don't fucking like this, dude. You're a massive, hulking bald dude they don't know. They are going to start off absolutely terrified of you. Multiply that fear by 50 if you're full of nervous, s…
/r/seduction07/05/24 12:27 AM
-1

Alternatively: Have friends, go and have fun with those friends. Meet women naturally.
/r/seduction06/05/24 11:52 PM
1

That's a lot of words. Did you ever read the wikipedia for emotional intelligence? Lacking experience developing social skills is literally, literally inversely causally related to emotional intelligence.
/r/seduction06/05/24 11:45 PM
0

No I wouldn't recommend a cold approach. I think it's the stupidest and least successful way to approach women on earth.
/r/seduction06/05/24 11:43 PM
1

You don't understand women! [lists categories of women] lol
/r/seduction06/05/24 11:42 PM
4

Cool way to sound like a sex criminal. I don't know how you can exist on the same planet as women and think what they want more of in their life is inappropriately sexually aggressive men. The stage at which this should be your demeanour is when sex is already fully on the table and she's into that type of thing. To put it in words you'll understand, this is a 'desperation' mindset, not an 'abundance' mindset. When you require something from someone else to be fulfilled, you are desperate. This …
/r/seduction06/05/24 04:59 AM
136

In future, probably don't try and rescue already long dead relationships with explicit photos and text messages. I'd suggest having more respect for yourself and engaging sexually with people who reciprocate that energy moving forward.
/r/seduction06/05/24 04:55 AM
1

When I find myself avoiding a point like it's painful, I often find it's very, very true. I'm sure you're desperately avoiding having to engage with what I'm saying for different reasons though.
/r/seduction06/05/24 04:46 AM
0

If you read the wikipedia article on the subject it will give you a broad overview of subjects you can pursue if you really do give a shit.
/r/seduction06/05/24 02:09 AM
2

Sure, if you think a hot person is a different 'instrument' from a not hot person your moronic metaphor makes sense and also handily explains why you're failing.
/r/seduction06/05/24 02:07 AM
6

You have to be interesting to them, one way or another. Women who are in photo shoots are not easily interested by hot, privileged youth. That is their baseline and considered normal. You are asking the same questions that some of the least socially competent men on earth are asking. So provided everything you said here is true, you're still in the bottom 5% of emotional intelligence.
/r/seduction06/05/24 01:35 AM
3

lol. Congratulations. You should move there. You should also detail the shock you get when you move there and being a minor celebrity doesn't continue.
/r/seduction06/05/24 12:51 AM
12

Hey OP, thank you for posting. It was really satisfying to watch you not respond to the many, many excellent points that were brought up to combat your embarrassing drivel. If you are wondering whether or not it's your ugly facade or the fact that you are a coward that leaves you lonely and miserable, I can assure you, it's.... your ugliness. Natch.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/24 12:27 AM
-1

Do people actually think like this? That you're not feeling up a stranger enough after one date and that's why women - the famously liking to be feeled up by strangers gender - aren't continuing to date them? Yeah I'm sure you're right.
/r/seduction05/05/24 12:19 AM
2

Hey dude, her wondering if you want to fuck and you saying 'sure' is not going to maker her think you're a creep. Please ask the real question that you're afraid to ask for whatever reason.
/r/seduction05/05/24 12:02 AM
1

It means she's not looking for anything serious for now which generally means you should probably look elsewhere.
/r/seduction04/05/24 07:59 AM
8

So she likes the relationship you have now, but doesn't want more than that? It sounds to me like you've found the natural upper limit of your relationship with this person at this time. Turn your romantic attentions elsewhere. And no, she is not 'using you', unless you're only being a decent person in order to get sex in which case it's a push because you're a piece of shit too.
/r/seduction04/05/24 04:09 AM
1

Fair enough. And yeah, like I remarked upon, I do disagree with some things stated here and say as much, but I'd say the places we disagree are not as important as the places where we do (see: action orientated focus) so I'm pleased to have access to this place.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/24 01:36 AM
7

Yeah you won't catch me complaining about my treatment here. When I disagreed with a mod publicly and was not just not banned but allowed to continue contributing so long as it was constructive I nearly dropped dead. Both the community and the mod team here are remarkable for their own reasons. Not perfect, but very interesting.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/24 01:24 AM
8

Fair enough. I won't tell anyone how to play with their toys. Especially when the relationship has become this overtly adversarial. Personally I hope you think a bit more broadly about ways to move forward. I think you have something of reasonable value here - and that is a sub around the concept of dating that hasn't become absolutely massacred with black pill do nothing doomerism. Guys here are at least open to the concept that they aren't perfect and that fixing what's up may require actual w…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/24 12:53 AM
7

Just FYI behaving like that out of the blue towards people you've known for 1-2 years is going to freak them the fuck out harder than if you were just a normal creep.
/r/seduction04/05/24 12:14 AM
9

Eh. Personally I really like that feeling that someone gets me and I get them back and finding out more and more about them (and liking what I find). The concept that some women actually find me hot is just wild to me, but very pleasant and enjoyable to experience too. Overall I'd say I like doing the thing that you don't like doing. Hope the reasoning is understandable.
/r/seduction03/05/24 09:02 AM
20

You are either the most incredible human being alive, or delusional. Congratulations / condolences as appropriate.
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:56 AM
1

The first step is to put anything you hear from the most sexless and socially incompetent people on earth about women directly into the bin. The second step is to put anything you hear regarding the preferences of women from academic studies into the bin. Not because it's just self-evidently wrong like the above, just that 4 billion is too high of a number to draw inferences about an individual woman from even the most competent studies, even if the sample size was 100k. The third step is talkin…
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:51 AM
3

fetish (noun) Something, such as a material object or nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification.
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:37 AM
26

Have you actually thought about the interactions you have from the perspective of the woman? I ask because this: Say ur chatting up a coworker. If I give em funny jokes, funny/good time, graze her hand type shit (..like if I'm holding her phone as an example, and give it back to her in her hand, then feel her hand slowly pulling away..), be fully-aware in the conversation... Next day, no hi, or if anything, just a hi. Sounds insanely fucking weird to me, and I'm not even a woman. For example I c…
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:35 AM
44

The thing is I'm already attached, so is there anything I can do? When I like people I really want them to live their best life, and understand that for some people, their best life doesn't include me. If I were you, I'd listen to the things she said, and wish her well.
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:12 AM
44

This is all fundamentally good and actionable advice from what I can see. But stripped of the context of a book and all given equal weight in listicle form, it loses a lot of punch. Good for reddit upvotes though usually. If anyone actually practices things learned online, I'd recommend reading each point carefully and taking the time out to genuinely interrogate yourself and find out where you fall in terms of actually practicing the advice.
/r/seduction03/05/24 05:36 AM
-2

It might be that women pretty much universally do not appreciate strange men appearing and bothering them when they're trying to do the shopping or have a nice meal, but pretty much universally date and have sex with men who date normally.
/r/seduction02/05/24 03:34 PM
11

Watching them 'No True Scotsman' their ideology in the same identical way is a genuine internet phenomeon.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/24 03:29 PM
-2

Yeah you can keep anyone with those preferences over there with you man lol
/r/seduction02/05/24 02:03 PM
41

I'll never forget finishing this date like 15 years ago and her saying 'look, I really like you. I find you wildly attractive and interesting. But I'm sorry our cars were not psychotically pre-arranged to be close together so you can utilise the social pressure inherent to a farewell in order to attempt to put your mouth on me. I need a man who who is detail oriented. To the point he forgets that he's organising a date and not setting up a mob hit.'
/r/seduction02/05/24 02:02 PM
-1

lol 'words matter but I'm going to go ahead and use them to sound as close to a sex criminal as possible because challenging my beliefs on this issue has launched cognitive dissonance into the tedious zone'.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/24 01:38 PM
-1

No, it's fucking awesome. There is nothing cool and happy about wasting time with views so conservative I am embarrassed through the internet. Women don't find time travellers from convents in 1920 attractive.
/r/seduction02/05/24 01:36 PM
105

I genuinely believed I was one of the most hideous people on earth, so I took myself out of the dating pool. Very important to note that I only took myself out of the dating aspect of life. I had a huge friend network and a pretty fulfilling life otherwise which was awesome and more than enough to keep me getting up each morning. Free of the anxiety of dating, i had a permanent 'abundance mentality' demeanour and no reason to push a conversation past its natural conclusion. This freed me up to a…
/r/seduction02/05/24 09:42 AM
1

Words matter. The order they go in matters. It is the difference between a personal choice and an abusive psycho.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/24 09:13 AM
-3

No. You can say 'I will not be in a non monogamous relationship'. But you can't demand other people's behaviour.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/24 08:25 AM
-8

You know boundaries are things you place on your own behaviour right? They call boundaries you put on other people things like 'crimes'.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/24 02:21 AM
4

Regarding shit tests, they don't exist. They're just things that young men are sensitive about and instead of admitting that they're sensitive they blame women because accepting responsibility for their life is unreasonable. In order to deal with shit tests, just be a man to whom shit tests don't apply. You won't be perceived as trying to qualify when you are not emotionally affected by the normal conversation. With regards to escalation, what are you trying to do? A major problem I see a lot is…
/r/seduction02/05/24 02:03 AM
14

Oh so you didn't read my post, you just read my profile history. How definitely true and normal. Tell me, my biggest fan, why did you choose this route to embarrass yourself?
/r/TheRedPill02/05/24 01:23 AM
1

So you don't want them to talk about their partners and you also don't want to see their partners or them in the process of meeting potential partners is that right?
/r/ExRedPill01/05/24 09:52 PM
6

You read it all didn't you?
/r/TheRedPill01/05/24 09:49 PM
1

Good. It's not flattering and I'd prefer dismissal to the gibberish that falls out of the keyboard of someone undergoing serious cognitive dissonance in combination with amounts of butthurt not recorded since the days of LAN parties.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/24 09:46 PM
4

You went along to a girl's night out? Good work man. All of her friends are now openly talking about her being in an abusive relationship because that is straight up psycho shit. I completely forgot how slutty girls are. All six of her friends were either engaged or in a very long term relationship. Each girl was giving their phone numbers away to the first retard that approached them, especially the engaged ones. Eventually every girl was in the dance floor with a partner. I would put 100k on t…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/24 09:36 PM
1

Get 'im lol
/r/seduction01/05/24 09:09 PM
7

You felt like a weird outsider because that's what you decided to be right here: I went with the intent of direct approaching 99.99% of women and 99% of men went with the intent of having fun with their friends. Lots of the single people will actually hook up, but that's not what they are there for. It's incidental to the fun. If you actually liked the music or were part of the scene or had your own friends to chill with, a lot of those negative feelings would go away.
/r/seduction01/05/24 08:40 PM
7

If nobody has requested an exclusive relationship, this is called 'normal'.
/r/seduction01/05/24 07:18 PM
6

And miss the next episode of 'The sex my online enemies who make me feel stupid must be having'? No way.
/r/seduction01/05/24 07:07 AM
7

Did this sub teach you to insult people by authoring speculative fan fiction about their sex lives when you cannot formulate an argument?
/r/seduction01/05/24 05:56 AM
9

This is stupid bullshit. If anyone wants to know what it's actually like to have slept with a lot of women, it's like you've only slept with a dozen or so. Unless they were someone I dated seriously, or stands out for some novel reason, I just forget them. It's like it never happened. Like how 99.99999% of the lunches you have eaten are not available to recollect with a normal brain. You don't buy pussy with empathy.
/r/seduction01/05/24 05:41 AM
16

What in the world? You seem to have conflated social awkwardness with the concepts of introversion and low emotional intelligence but with elements of personality types and horoscopes thrown in for flavour. Awkwardness is not a big deal. Basically every young adult is socially awkward to a degree, and shitloads of grown adults are too. People tend to care more about the fact that you made the effort to say hello to them than the skill and grace with which you said it. By all means, freak out and…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/24 03:25 AM
5

No it isn't. For example, I've had every type of relationship that there was to have before I even knew what hypergamy was. When I learned what it was, I realised it was the easiest thing in the world to avoid by just taking notice of the things the women you are dating say and do while you're dating them and don't date the ones who are very obviously only dating you to carry the burden of a major aspect of their life for them.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/24 03:11 AM
12

Help! I read a book and now I'm a woman!
/r/seduction30/04/24 11:19 PM
27

Someone has to be blamed for them being utterly repellent. They've got about another decade of growing to do before they'll be ready to accept responsibility for the things they do and say, so women have to carry the bag for them until then. They fear responsibility far more than they fear a life of being a sexless weirdo.
/r/ExRedPill30/04/24 01:48 PM
13

Please don't do that. Please consider just freezing this entire situation in time, and placing it in a decorative glass bottle like a model ship. Please believe me when I advise continued extremely weird contact with this woman would be a very bad idea.
/r/seduction30/04/24 08:11 AM
14

I also want to just say that very few men have put their feelings on the line with such earnest terrible judgement like you did in this situation. I mean, very few men for a really good reason, but still, very few men. That's.... remarkable. And I bet you'll make another woman ugly laugh when you tell this story to her in a few years time on a first date having grown considerably in skill and judgement in the interim.
/r/seduction30/04/24 08:01 AM
3

Wow. Good for you man. You survived. It can only get better from here. Yeesh lol
/r/seduction30/04/24 07:46 AM
1

What? Are you sure? Most men when they get to that age generally have a bit more self respect than to behave like that. What makes an older man attractive huh. Ask women for a real answer. If I had to guess, it's probably because we have life by the throat already. We are established, and set for life barring some catastrophe. The frantic and constant state of survival that most independent young adults live in a constant state of disappears with a partner who has already conquered such early hu…
/r/seduction30/04/24 07:42 AM
21

Dude, if this is what you have to do, own it. Don't try and hide it. This sort of insecurity will come off like you're lying or deceiving her somehow, when really you're just insecure. If you want her to be cool with this, you have to be cool with this first to have any shot.
/r/seduction30/04/24 07:38 AM
3

How many hours would you say you've put into your project of social mastery?
/r/seduction29/04/24 08:25 PM
-2

You sound like you fucking hate women. I wish your OP was detailing how it felt to be compelled to fuck something you actively hate. At least it would have been interesting stupid bullshit.
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:37 PM
3

Sounds miserable man. That's why advised putting all that shit in the bin and just chatting with people who share at least one of your interests. You build the skills of talking with women much faster like this. Those women you approached you could have talked to platonically for hours. Instead of approaching 2 women with romantic intent, you could have said hi to 50 and just have some fun with it.
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:19 PM
5

You seem really focussed on 'doing pickup'. Like talk a bit, get socials, message to build rapport for a date or whatever. I'd suggest just try and have fun with people who like the same bands you do and forget all that shit for a while. I think you'd benefit from that.
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:13 PM
2

I mentioned Barnum statements the other day. Statements that sound extremely true or even deeply personally relevant and yet absolute bullshit. In unrelated news, this doesn't really check out. If I was at all sensitive to rejection, it seems like it would be way, way worse than just walking past lots of hot women I don't know and not attempting to fuck them. I went to LA once. I managed to walk past lots of hot people without having an existential crisis.
/r/seduction29/04/24 04:45 PM
-11

[said while scrolling up to the top of a giant masturbatory larp full of daydreams] No problems man.
/r/seduction29/04/24 04:20 PM
-19

You're just a guy then? I knew a guy in the military. When I would get pissed with him, he'd occasionally do his party trick, which was to reach into the urine stream of a man in the jacks, grab the urinal cake out, and start eating it while making intense eye contact with the guy. The. Hottest. Women. All the time. He was just a guy I knew at work, one of dozens, that date all those baddies that post was about. Never mentioned any of that weird shit you mentioned though.
/r/seduction29/04/24 04:17 PM
38

Now why do all ‘baddies’ seem so stuck up, so aloof and intimidating? Because you are projecting personality traits onto someone who doesn't know you exist for normal reasons. At some point - it may be very early on, or it may be after a conversation has been going on…they will do or say something that implies you are inadequate in some way. Oh, word? Are you sure it isn't normal conversation that happens to stray into the territory of something you feel insecure and inadequate about? Because on…
/r/seduction29/04/24 04:13 PM
0

Yes, if that's the only option that doesn't involve you being cruel and fucked up towards her.
/r/seduction29/04/24 01:32 PM
-3

You would like this done to you? You wouldn't consider it completely fucking unnecessary and cruel?
/r/seduction29/04/24 01:25 PM
1

She is unaware that she dated a guy who considers it normal and a serious option to personally inform her of her shortcomings as a suitable paramour for his highness because she responded too slow to his messages and it annoyed him. That sucks.
/r/seduction29/04/24 01:21 PM
-4

Ghost her? If you want. Text her that she is not how I expect my girl? What? No. Or call her and tell her she is a nice person but i dont think that it is worth it to stay in contact? What on earth? NO. Just ghost the poor woman.
/r/seduction29/04/24 01:16 PM
2

All the best man.
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:44 PM
3

Hmm. I agree, strange things can put people off. But here's the thing. If she is going to like you, all this is going to come out in the wash eventually. Starting a relationship by lying (straight up or by omission) is a treacherous path. If the use was for cultural / religious reasons that would take far too long to explain in a text asking for another date, I personally would find it morally acceptable to give a less specific truth, like referring to it as a 'cultural / religious practice that…
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:34 PM
2

I find the best way to get a second chance is to admit that you fucked up and demonstrate an understanding of how you fucked up. This at least gives her an indication that a second chance won't just be the same waste of time. The danger to this is if you fuck up the how. For example, if you said 'My extremely lethargic behaviour I can only put down to my extended ashwagandha of 9 months affecting my thinking more than I was aware of at the time, and if by some miracle you'll excuse my past behav…
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:01 PM
2

I often make the mistake of being to extreme and harsh at times I don't understand. You know what your problem is. Just put what you're saying in more appropriate words. If you don't know how to do that, give me an example of what you've said and I'll demo.
/r/seduction29/04/24 11:53 AM
7

Good plan. Sort out a run. Make her an active part of your life. You'll find chatting via text so much easier when you chat IRL. You should know though that all this will do is get her in your life, and replying to messages. Because you weren't direct initially, if you overthink shit the things you say and do will be weird, and she will not want to be acquaintances anymore. If you want to rip the plaster off, it's an option to just be an honest and send her a text of 'actually, how would you fee…
/r/seduction29/04/24 03:27 AM
24

I find usually they're showing you where they like being touched, and how they like being touched.
/r/seduction29/04/24 03:13 AM
28

You are doing fine. Women you meet in social settings like this will give you their contact details for a number of reasons, only a few of which means 'I'm interested in dating this guy'. So unless you were very forward with your intentions and said 'I'd like to go for a coffee with you outside of running club', which I'm pretty sure you didn't judging from the context, she could have given you those details for entirely platonic, club related reasons. The simplest way I could advise to get the …
/r/seduction29/04/24 02:58 AM
1

So you satisfy your need for sex with transactional interactions that don't cause the social anxiety you're clearly avoiding like the plague?
/r/seduction29/04/24 02:25 AM
1

That, and reading about / doing those things are two entirely different kettles of fish. You can study 'how to create desire' until you are blue in the face. When it comes to actually doing it you're about as prepared as anyone else.
/r/seduction29/04/24 02:19 AM
1

That's cool man fair enough godspeed.
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:46 AM
2

Listening with skill. People worry a lot about 'what they should say'. I never see any questions about listening. It's 50% of a conversation. Everyone should at least understand this technique. I'm not saying employ it always everywhere, but it is like magic.
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:45 AM
1

I asked for your opinion and you are crying that I'm telling you how to live your life. You couldn't survive my life lol. I generally want people to live and thrive. Unironically. And I'm not saying anything in particular about your outlook other than 'I've lived like that. For decades. And decided it was stupid bullshit for losers'. Which is an opinion. Not a decree.
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:38 AM
1

Confidence is absolutely not required for any relationship type. It is amazing to have, but absolutely not required.
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:34 AM
2

Here's a quick summary of my life that I posted by chance like 20 minutes ago. Genuine question, this isn't a 'challenge' or whatever. I'd just like to know if you think I'm a coward after reading it, and if I 'take my physicality from the real world', or any of that stupid bullshit that just fell out of your keyboard. You can't. I used to read my sister's babysitter club books in secret. So I walked into a fight gym when I was 13, stood up to a grown man when I was 14, flew half way around the …
/r/seduction29/04/24 12:27 AM
3

I want to know too. Because it seems to me to be the stupidest fucking advice on earth to get a socially stunted person to attempt to form and maintain the most complex interpersonal relationships we have as a species. Seems to me like you might want to build the skills up to that first.
/r/seduction28/04/24 11:20 PM
1

Yeah, if only he had the good sense that I did, realised it for what it was, and put it and everything contained within in the mental trash and became an actual man worthy of love and affection and consequently have slayed harder than should be possible. Instead he had to do years of therapy to deprogram his pickup brain so he could have a happy relationship.
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:26 PM
2

True, people with the money to spend at pubs and clubs are definitely more bougie than people in the ghetto. But, do you want those women?
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:16 PM
1

Yeah even Strauss couldn't hide his contempt for those weird sex offenders as I recall.
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:06 PM
3

I bounced the roughest bars and clubs in my area for years. And yes. Lots of guys who think they are the business. If they are right, and the guy's head hits the edge of a table, they're going to prison. Even if they were 'in the right'. If they're wrong, they leave it up to people like me to stop the other guy jumping on their head. Also, from experience, women fucking hate aggression by an overwhelming percentage. I have never seen a woman see real, live, unsanctioned violence and be all moon …
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:03 PM
0

Simple advice to give, infinite time to master. I'm yet to find a relationship problem that couldn't have been solved by communicating about it earlier. And by 'solved' I either mean rectified, a plan made and agreed upon to solve it, or as a last resort we could separate with a mutual understanding that it was for the best with the least possible hurt done to each other. I can't overstate the importance of communication if you care about maintaining a relationship and enjoying the experience as…
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:18 AM
0

I don't think I deserve a clarifying credit, you said it, I just really feel like in my own life I knew that this was good advice before I actually put it into practice and want others to not make the same mistake. It's such a huge part of successful relationships. Just talking.
/r/seduction28/04/24 10:09 AM
0

Outstanding. This post has my enthusiastic consent if you know what I'm saying. Just want to build on this a bit: Communication: Open and honest communication is essential. Talk about your desires, boundaries, and preferences with your partner, and actively listen to theirs. Communicate all the time about your relationship niggles before they become monstrous problems. Every day. But don't neglect talking about sex. Talk about it all the time. I guarantee you can spend a lifetime exploring the p…
/r/seduction28/04/24 09:59 AM
2

You capture their attention dude. You seem to be doing fine. In fact, better than fine, she wasn't completely fucking creeped out that you pretended you hadn't met before eventually revealing that you had been classmates. Either she is completely fucking insane, or she is very interested in you, so keep doing whatever you're doing.
/r/seduction28/04/24 09:43 AM
-2

The same way weirdos can't understand how women figure out that they are misogynistic lunatics and ghost them when they didn't even say anything about how much women have ruined their lives. I'll give you a demo. Here's me in highschool, trying to convince my mates I had sex that weekend with a girl who goes to a different school: "Yeah we did it in the normal style and for the correct amount of time. Pretty dope." How did I do? Did you not believe that for a fucking second? Why? I said I did it…
/r/seduction28/04/24 09:33 AM
0

Have you tried negging him?
/r/seduction28/04/24 09:14 AM
4

Ignoring just.... everything the whole 'go to the gym' thing is a pretty accepted and seriously advised thing to do. And with good cause. Living a healthy lifestyle is cool. I do think a lot of people don't fully understand the things about actually going to the gym that makes them attractive. Sure, muscles are fine. But doing anything for a couple of years solid shows dedication. The ability to stick with a plan and actually work at something isn't nothing. It's a hobby and interest, which auto…
/r/TheRedPill28/04/24 08:57 AM
3

... What?
/r/seduction28/04/24 08:27 AM
55

In addition to the OP, I'd like to talk about any 'advice' you see about how to 'handle' aggressive people. Just don't. If someone has an attitude, leave. If your masculinity relies on you being the most violently psychotic lunatic in any room, enjoy prison. If you are not prepared to do up jail for 4-40 years or literally die, just fucking walk away. I promise your man card will survive.
/r/seduction28/04/24 05:17 AM
1

Personally speaking, I would dance. Due to extreme, and I mean extreme social stunting as an autistic adolescent in the 2000s I would rather learn to dance, in public, in a crowded night club, than attempt to talk to people in a crowded night club. The knock on effects from that is I was almost certainly the best or one of the best dancers in most clubs I went into. Women really, really like men who can dance, and will seek my attention. I have been accepted into groups by talking to someone - w…
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:56 AM
2

Do you think doing nothing and effortless are synonyms?
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:50 AM
1

so it worked Sort of. It got a very young girl to be embarrassed in front of her friend group and she sought my approval to defuse that. If you call that 'worked', I call doing that 'for dickheads'. My refusal to engage with that shit means I have had more of every type of intimate partnership that exists on earth. If there are ways to have more of any type of sex or relationship I don't want to know about it, because it's functionally useless to me. Attracting girls is effortless to me.
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:43 AM
1

It is isn't it? That's why I would always advise people to take the time to build a social network. It helps an insane amount with these things. Personally, when I went to clubs by myself I did so because I love to dance. I used to go to clubs just to dance, but would often hook up incidental to that. If you do anything or go anywhere 'to get girls', ironically that decreases your chances of success exponentially. Clubs are extremely hard to have fun in without friends though. It's why you basic…
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:39 AM
1

Yes, once, back in 05. I read The Game and when I was at the club the weekend after I used a line from it. Something like 'is she always like this?'. Everyone laughed and the girl giggled and hugged me, which at that stage was the most public affection a girl had ever given me. Early the next morning while still blasted out of my mind and paddling a stolen kayak way too far out to sea, I realised I would rather be a virgin for the rest of my life rather than imitate an internet loser's idea of a…
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:35 AM
1

You don't have to win a group. Just a person who is a part of that group. But you do need to start a conversation with one of them. The easiest way is to have something in common with them. Unfortunately that might be difficult because they're all there to have fun. You're there to pick up, and the fun you have is dependent on your success. You need to be able to generate fun independent of anyone's approval. Again, easier with groups, but how would you have fun by yourself independent of approv…
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:32 AM
2

How many people have you met that were so memorable that you held particularly fond memories of them days later after only interacting with them for a few minutes? Maybe a full on celebrity? These women are doing what every human on earth in their position would do which is look at your text, realise that you know nothing about them, and cease revealing personal details about yourself to someone who is essentially less familiar to you than someone who you've never spoken to but catches the same …
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:27 AM
1

I catered for that right here. or you have fun until your fun intersects with an indivual in the group. But admittedly a lot of people aren't going to have much fun alone. But you will have to if you want a good chance of being accepted into a community. People are accepted into communities when they have something to offer, or if they are pitied. What do you have to offer a group of people already having fun by yourself? If you can answer that question, I could help you with a strategy.
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:17 AM
1

It was one example of many possible options that could have slotted into that sentence. It's just saying that talking to anyone IRL of any age or gender is giving you the actual tools that people use to connect better than any theory from RSD.
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:14 AM
10

Good story. Meeting and getting to know people should be really fun and interesting, not anxiety inducing nightmares.
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:33 AM
1

And that tiny snippet of a much larger post isn't saying 'don't go to the gym'. It's saying 'going to the gym will do absolutely fucking nothing to solve the fear and anxiety of approaching women with nothing to say and no skills to say that nothing with'.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/24 02:10 AM
24

Sure man. Personally I love it when women start conversations with attempting to wreck my self esteem, so women as fellow humans definitely like this too. Definitely try it and get back to us with the endless success stories that were birthed by the strategy of 'being a complete fucking prick to be around' so we can all do it too and finally have sex with women we do not like or respect, like real men.
/r/seduction28/04/24 01:24 AM
2

In my opinion, you probably have approach anxiety because you are developmentally stunted in the social department, and have figured out that you are going to have to actually talk to women one day, and attempt to begin and maintain the most complex interpersonal relationships we have as a species. And you are not ready. Do you know why we don't typically teach astrophysics to a child in primary school? Because they do not have the foundations with which to even comprehend absorbing this knowled…
/r/TheRedPill28/04/24 01:00 AM
9

[First dot point under a page with the title WOMEN] Gets..... horny...... sometimes
/r/seduction28/04/24 12:43 AM
0

Doesn't matter man. Like you say it's all theory. I can tell you now that volunteering at the old folks home for 10 hours a week would teach you more about how to pick up 20-something year old hotties than all those things you've got put together. So I can honestly say that the order in which you consume those things will not matter at all in reality where women are.
/r/seduction27/04/24 11:56 PM
106

Er, yes? What is this question? Adults go to adult establishments, drink, find someone they like, and have a good night. This is rampant literally everywhere that serves alcohol.
/r/seduction27/04/24 11:51 PM
2

It's interesting isn't it? It's good you're observing these things instead of bursting into the group in a huge felt hat and doing magic tricks. The reason they feel unapproachable is because they are. They are having a lot of fun with their friends. They do not need a new guy for fun times. Why should the group include you? Provided you have anything of worth to add to people's lives, there are two ways to approach groups. You either have a group of your own and have them naturally collide, or …
/r/seduction27/04/24 11:43 PM
4

Lolll someones best jokes are bad and racist
/r/seduction27/04/24 07:52 PM
3

Usually you'd build up a rapport by conversing while planted firmly in your own spaces and only ask to merge spaces if both parties were having more fun talking to each other than they were left alone.
/r/seduction27/04/24 11:05 AM
2

Lecturing drunk racists cannot be done without seeming like a massive dork or possibly even dweeb who is giving racists the time of day because he has no self respect.
/r/seduction27/04/24 10:51 AM
1

People always get stuck here. I don't know why. If there was a fire behind them, you'd say quickly and without hesitation something like 'ladies, please look at the fire behind you and make an adult decision about continuing to sit there'. And they'd say like 'good fire seeing, dude'. And then you'd say 'care to join me and my mate at somewhere not on fire' or something and I think that would go pretty well for you without my help. If you have anxiety about speaking only when talking to women yo…
/r/seduction27/04/24 10:46 AM
31

Have self respect and walk away from people who are openly and publicly racist towards you. This isn't a 'test'. This is people screaming 'don't date me! I fucking suck and not in the useful way!'.
/r/seduction27/04/24 10:41 AM
2

Women and men aren't pokemon. We aren't grouped by types. We do have strengths and weaknesses, but they are personal. Not 'types'. Unless you are talking about groups of women who are fundamentally opposed to Puerto Rican dudes in which case I'd wonder why you're trying to date nazis.
/r/seduction27/04/24 09:33 AM
-1

You know entertainers claim to talk to the dead? You know how it's just a combination of cold reading and Barnum statements? That's what you're paying for. Barnum statements might be a new concept for a few of you. You should look it up. They're things that sound true to the layman. Even deeply personally accurate. But absolute bullshit. By all means spend your money. You'll enjoy the ride. But I guarantee there is no living human that can give you the equivalent of years of personal growth and …
/r/seduction27/04/24 09:27 AM
0

Maybe you should have a text conversation or two with her. Have the first date via text. Figure out if you even like this strange person you know absolutely Jack shit about other than she made your no no parts feel funny cah she's attractive.
/r/seduction27/04/24 06:49 AM
-1

Congratulations. This: Today, I went out with a cute 18-year-old Latina who’s new in my neighborhood. She is very seductive, very playful, unlike most girls I’ve been with. Or maybe I just miss the freshness and the superficial edge of a teenager. Made my skin crawl in a way I haven't felt since I read lolita. You might have heard of it. It's written from the perspective of a predatory (whoops what's this quote doing here??) Feels like a ‘hunter becomes the prey’ paedophile who repeatedly rapes …
/r/seduction26/04/24 10:59 PM
14

This is essentially accurate, but it will be unpopular for people to actually try out because it requires hard work and an understanding that who you are is emotionally stunted and you require hard work to fix. That will put a lot of people off who just want the Konami code for pussy now please.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/24 11:33 PM
1

This is a lie. If being sexist gets the bitches, go be sexist. See how you do. I'll bet you'll get fucking nobody because no women like that shit you lying liar / dipshit.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/24 11:31 PM
1

Lol dude you're personality sucks. Work on that. If you're pretty and nothing else you're about as useful as a tasteful ornament.
/r/seduction25/04/24 11:28 PM
1

I was remanded in prison pending trial because I was on licence for other unrelated shenanigans if you must know.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/24 11:22 PM
1

Don't know who that is I'm just someone who likes relationships without commitment at the moment and are dating girls who like the same thing.
/r/seduction24/04/24 05:20 AM
17

Yeah. Most people experience this, but they're less honest about it. Hence, a lot of advice is how to 'control' 'your woman' so that they behave themselves and don't leave you because that would make you feel bad (the biggest crime on earth, to the individual). Obviously that is lunatic shit for people who want to go to prison. Autonomous humans will do what they do. Sometimes, your life and their life line up and you both decide that you'd like to do life together. But just as fast, your lives …
/r/seduction23/04/24 06:04 AM
2

If you think growing a beard has helped or hindered you getting dates, you don't understand why you're succeeding or failing.
/r/seduction23/04/24 05:16 AM
6

Far, far, far too much fucking around. When I was 19 I went to prison for two GBH charges for being swept up in a giant brawl in a club that I had absolutely nothing to do with. One moment happy 19 year old dancing, next moment sharing a cell with an Albanian murderer and looking at 4-7 years of the same. Do you know what I say to people with an attitude? Nothing. I dip. Do you know what I do if someone punches me? I shell up and back towards an exit. The only way you'll get me to be violent is …
/r/TheRedPill23/04/24 04:55 AM
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This is the stupidest fucking question. Every single one of us are comprised of masculine and feminine aspects. It's how you can fuck women. If you were a manly man's man like Crazy Larry, you'd also hold that 'fucking females is for poofs'. So there has to be aspects of you that adores and appreciates the feminine. Stop fucking fighting it and thinking it's bad to have feminine aspects as a man. You'll be way more comfortable in your skin AND your masculinity.
/r/seduction23/04/24 02:08 AM
1

Fair enough. My advice is the shit you are sending them is so boring / bad that it outweighs how hot they find you (from golfing. golf hot.).
/r/seduction23/04/24 02:02 AM
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I didn't become any of those things but I did become extremely good at talking to people by talking to a lot of people.
/r/seduction23/04/24 02:00 AM
2

To be clear, you golfed your way to hotties telling you IRL that you are fine, but don't respond to texts? Have I got the basics down? If so you are delusional and lying about some or all of this, and that's embarrassing.
/r/seduction23/04/24 01:59 AM
4

Good man. Get those reps up.
/r/seduction23/04/24 01:57 AM
6

I annoy the shit out of all of my partners, but if any of them ever said that out loud, I would understand that I've gone way too far. I cannot think of a single situation where this being said could be construed as good.
/r/seduction23/04/24 01:56 AM
31

If my man tries all this out he's going to end up on several country's 'no fly, big sex offender' (real thing) lists. The ultimate 'not a nice guy' achievement.
/r/seduction23/04/24 01:54 AM
81

An attractive personality is a personality that makes others feel good to be around. Viewed from this perspective, what are your strong / weak points?
/r/seduction22/04/24 03:12 AM
1

Being liked by people is something you cannot fake or buy. People, as long as they aren't creeps or sex offenders, choosing to be around you is so valuable it feels almost amazing that I have to explain this to an adult.
/r/seduction21/04/24 03:11 AM
2

lol. Anyone who thinks going out alone is better for your social credit than going out with guys who are definitely studying STEM doesn't even vaguely comprehend how socialising works.
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:25 AM
1

It is such a common question it is in people's old profiles, and definitely a first date question if not. Why would you not directly ask this?
/r/seduction21/04/24 01:50 AM
7

Taking offence at an entire subreddit because they aren't the right type of feminism when observed as a collective as far as they're concerned is absolutely something an insecure person does. Or insane. Definitely not well adjusted is where I'll settle.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/24 05:09 PM
2

When you are terrified of leaving the house or communicating with others to the point where you feel trapped in your own life maybe it's time to consider at least one giant mental health issue.
/r/seduction20/04/24 01:06 PM
12

Wow. Bet the Op can't wait to become as secure as you.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/24 12:04 PM
34

I remember when I first discovered places on the internet where women were free to just speak their mind relatively uninterrupted. I remember getting really embarrassed when they'd bring up behaviour that was embarrassing and weird that I knew I would occasionally partake in. It didn't take me long to realise that it was my behaviour that was embarrassing, not theirs.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/24 12:02 PM
5

If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes.
/r/seduction20/04/24 12:48 AM
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I don't know how much more extreme your behaviour needs to get or how much anaerobic exercise and meditation you need to try before you go to get professional medical help, but when you're finished, go and get professional medical help.
/r/seduction19/04/24 03:48 PM
19

What do you need me to elaborate on? She's hung out with you, she is literally dating your best friend. If she utterly refuses to put one of her friends in your company, she's protecting them from something. That's probably not good.
/r/seduction19/04/24 01:54 AM
12

It's weird in the sense that women who have gotten a chance to know you past the surface level still absolutely would not set a friend up with you - so it's almost certainly not just your appearance.. You really, really need to do some work on how you interact with people.
/r/seduction19/04/24 01:47 AM
2

So skilful in semantic pedantry. You must have been a fierce warrior in your day.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/24 06:00 AM
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Ok. Not asking for exact proof because that would be ridiculous but if you could just link me to any example of you showing any concern in any conflict involving at least one man and one woman where you are empathising with just the woman. It doesn't exist does it?
/r/seduction17/04/24 03:37 AM
1

Mmm yes.
/r/seduction16/04/24 07:46 AM
3

I usually have sex with people I like.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/24 07:45 AM
2

That's not sarcasm, I genuinely love that attitude on this sub. People support guys who take action.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/24 05:56 AM
2

"Get up off your ass, and try. Even if it's harmful and counter-productive, it is definitely better than you continuing to do nothing and taking no responsibility."
/r/TheRedPill16/04/24 05:56 AM
1

I read The Game in 05. It wasn't called red pill back then but yeah I guess you can say I've been around a bit. And you're right. I think pretty much everything taught in the instructional sense as part of 'red pill' ways of picking up are generally so wrong they are embarrassing. Like 'cold approaching' being day 1 week 1 start here shit. Whose idea was it to get extremely nervous, self conscious, socially incompetent dweebs to start at trying to complete some of the most complex interpersonal …
/r/TheRedPill16/04/24 05:48 AM
1

Oh I understand what he's trying to say. I just personally think if you have to use 'bitches be crazy' to make your world view seem like sage advice, your advice is probably dog shit.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/24 03:13 AM
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Relax dude I'm not actually reading your post history. I'm making the point that if a woman stabbed 5 men to death, you wouldn't be front and centre lamenting how mentally taxed the woman must have been to do such a thing. The point is that you're an embarrassing sexist who can't even sympathise with women who were brutally killed. You would rather sympathise in public, by choice, with the murderer. You are an unhinged lunatic.
/r/seduction16/04/24 02:44 AM
2

Yeah it's a shame it's an archived post because this almost requires author clarity because it is not often I read something that absolutely has two valid readings: where he's doing like you say and yelling 'action' so they can play, and where he watched a couple of romance films, and assumed that's how love actually goes.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/24 02:39 AM
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They're humans. There's no tips or tricks. Society has socialised us differently according to gender though, and as such we communicate and prioritise different things in general. This is absolutely no problem whatsoever if you speak the dialect women use. Think of it as your 'emotional' dialect. I've found it really, really helps people understand how rad you are when you can speak their language. It's not necessary for success with women, although I'd argue being able to understand their diale…
/r/seduction16/04/24 01:49 AM
1

What came first: the bitches who saw their lives as if through the lens of a camera like a movie? Or the guy who instructs his dates to meet him under the clock tower at grand central in the era of cell phones and gps in your pants? Didn't he also not just put up with a woman ranting about a co-worker for 20 minutes on a first date, but actively encourage her to get more vicious about it? That was a choice to do that.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/24 11:14 PM
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How far back through your post history would you guess you would have to go to find the LOL REVERS GENDER version of 'sure, women might be getting stabbed to death in public for doing nothing to a person, but think of the anguish of the guy brutally taking their life'?
/r/seduction15/04/24 07:16 PM
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I didn't mention anything about game, or being celibate during that time. I was only commenting on the reliability of the sex stories boasted about by teenagers / adults with training wheels. People who have sex don't feel the need to talk about it in the same way that you - I assume - don't feel the need to update your mates when you've eaten lunch.
/r/seduction15/04/24 06:57 PM
1

No, I think it's about the human beings that were knifed to death by a lunatic of with as of yet unknown but extremely obvious motivations.
/r/seduction15/04/24 06:47 PM
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The fucking weight of your victimhood complex. Atlas would check you out and be like 'put it down man'. You are as wrong as it is possible to be. You are only creepy when people are unsure if you're a threat. Some things that might do that: dressing / being filthy. Taking photos of people without their permission. Bringing up sex all the time with people you don't know well. Staring at people. Refusing to look at people. I am a man, and have normal male interests, but I'm not a fucking creep los…
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:05 PM
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Then copy and paste that. Or I'll tell you what. Just tell me the three most important. That's all I'll need. You're shitting in your pants scared of doing this. You should think about why.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 12:59 PM
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5 women murdered, one with her baby in her hands, and you still want most of the oxygen in the air to be for the truly aggrieved.
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:04 AM
1

Tell her what you're looking for. Ask what she's looking for. If incompatible, move on.
/r/seduction15/04/24 10:57 AM
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You don't know what to be creepy is either theoretically or actually.
/r/seduction15/04/24 10:57 AM
2

If this isn't made up, I'd like to use this in the future for hopium. I can tell guys to not worry about being absurdly creepy, because you can be a massively creepy dude and still get positive attention apparently. Well, I guess scat is a porn category. Some women have to like this.
/r/seduction15/04/24 09:58 AM
3

Do me a favour and list those qualities. What would you say are the most important aspects of a personality to a relationship, and how you measure up in those departments. If you do this for me, I will be able to give you very specific and accurate advice.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 09:22 AM
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Saturday (a walk and coffee in the nearby park). She said she couldn't because she had a party (classic excuse) You do know that in the average man or woman's life from the second they become an adult until about 15 years later this is the most relateable and excusable reasons that exist on earth? If you are so disconnected from society at large that you don't find young women not being available on a Saturday to meet a rando because she's socialising with her actual friends particularly believa…
/r/seduction15/04/24 09:19 AM
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If it turned out the motivation is like you say, it is probable that that guy - while literally being the type of guy that packs off women in a busy shopping centre with a knife - was just hours before wondering tediously why he wasn't getting his end wet. Probably on reddit.
/r/seduction15/04/24 08:54 AM
1

As long as you never say or do anything that leads her to think you guys are an exclusive item, or better yet, explicitly tell her exactly what you do want from any potential relationship, that will see to it that none of the anxieties you have here have much basis in reality.
/r/seduction15/04/24 08:38 AM
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Ah yes. Teenage / early 20s male claims about the sex they have had should be taken 1 parts claim to 4 billion parts salt.
/r/seduction15/04/24 08:23 AM
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In the military the 'window of stress tolerance' was a focal point of the curriculum / doctrine development for skill acquisition. If it was 'too real', without a reasonable buffer for mistakes, you would have guys shutting down / going crazy and getting violent. If it was all just learned theoretically in a classroom, it would be absolutely worthless. As you can imagine it's pretty serious business. It is also why I maintain that telling guys who have been aggressively antisocial throughout the…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/24 08:19 AM
2

When I first heard that The Game was still going like 15 years later, one of the first papers I read was a socio-political paper urging Australian authorities to classify in cell shit as a domestic threat back in like 2020. Regardless of his ideology, there's nothing in it that would make me respect anything about him, his 'struggles', or his atrocity.
/r/seduction15/04/24 08:08 AM
1

Social skills are just skills. They take time and effort to develop.
/r/seduction14/04/24 03:02 PM
13

I would rather be unhappy and taken than happy and single. The Saddest Reddit Man. Being single fucking owns. Not having to consider someone else's whole life in everything you do is insanely liberating. I do what I want, when I want, all the time. Don't have to cancel on my mates to hang out with hers. FWBs. Have a bed with a reasonable number of pillows on it. It just rules. And it is also an excellent filtering method. A woman has to be seriously amazing to get me to even consider giving up s…
/r/seduction14/04/24 02:12 PM
3

Achieve a reasonable level of social mastery. The only way to do this is to socialise with everyone all the time a lot. Build and maintain a diverse network of people. Actively socialise with the best of friends from your network at events where 'hot women' go as often as humanly possible.
/r/seduction14/04/24 02:00 PM
2

I didn't change anything about how I interacted with women. The only change I made was the personal belief that I was capable and worthy of being loved in the physical sense even if I was fat. Sounds to me like you should leave dating alone for a while and get good at socialising. Dating is a social skill. Long term relationships are literally the most complex social interactions we have as humans. If you are yet to master social norms, you should leave the most complex interactions we have as h…
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:39 PM
17

Happy birthday. First lesson: If you want to be a confident man, wear your hair the way you like it and wear the clothes that make you feel good and are appropriate for the context.
/r/seduction14/04/24 06:53 AM
1

Well it's untreated and from my perspective at least, extremely off-putting.
/r/seduction14/04/24 06:45 AM
1

My dude, in like four sentences that went from confused and combative to deep depression. You sound like you should visit your doctor and ask to do an evaluation for depression.
/r/seduction14/04/24 05:33 AM
4

Good question. I used to be a boxer and I retired because work basically took over my life and I didn't consider what eating 10k calories a day would do to someone who isn't working out for 5 hours a day and working 8 (if he's lucky). I got real fat. Still am. I used to be obsessed with how I looked when I was young. I thought being fat was a lack of discipline and showed a weakness in the person. And I didn't spare myself the scorn. I didn't hate how I looked. It was just the consequences of my…
/r/seduction14/04/24 05:28 AM
22

My man asking the important questions.
/r/seduction14/04/24 05:21 AM
2

Either you are 8.5 Physical beauty is not the same thing as attractive. They often overlap, but not in my case. In my case I am a pretty good dancer. But that isn't enough on it's own. I paired it with other fun. I interspersed good dancing with joking with my mates and getting progressively more fucked up but in a good way which was fun and safe and funny so women want to be around people who look like they're having the most fun in the club. How do they make it very very clear? On the dance fl…
/r/seduction14/04/24 04:48 AM
2

As far as I'm concerned the best possible thing you could do would be to apologise to her, take full responsibility for the disrespect, and gracefully fuck off and do better next time. You have to be careful with human relationships man. People can get hurt. Or their finite time on this planet could get wasted by someone who can't get up in time. Besides, you don't want the type of women who would excuse that degree of disrespect anyway, unless you're some sort of predator.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:55 AM
1

If girls are into you at a club they have no problem making that very, very clear to you.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:25 AM
0

Good, because if there is no fucking reason to touch her, you shouldn't be touching her. It's a gesture of affection and familiarity. Girls you've just met are not familiar with you. It is fucking weird for someone twice your size that you don't know to just start touching you like a good friend would.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:23 AM
0

Jesus christ man. You are making this all very hard, and it's very simple. You ask her out, you go on a date, you find out if you like her and she likes you back, if she likes you back you tell her what you want from the relationship, and ask her what she wants. In that order.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:21 AM
1

You are a grown man and were unable to keep an appointment because you slept in. That's 15 year old delinquent 'late for school' approach to shit. Women do not find men who can't wake up in time to show them basic respect attractive.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:18 AM
2

Tell her you thought it was a date, and want to know if you should reclassify it as hanging out in your brain by finding out how she sees them.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:16 AM
1

No. I took a very specific piece of his post, removed it from context, and made a comment on it assuming the woman was not a stranger, but a friend. In fact, 'friend' was the first word I typed. You had one word to understand, fucked that up, and wasted my time. Again. If you are going to follow me around making brain dead comments like this at me, please let me know so I can block you.
/r/seduction13/04/24 11:50 PM
5

Get your shit together: Live a lifestyle that you are proud of. I would bet at least 80% of people struggling with dating stumble at this step. Make a habit of going outside your comfort zone If you are not routinely outside of your comfort zone on purpose you are not growing as a person or, in my opinion, living. I believe what you would be doing in that case would be called 'existing'. Journal One of the most fascinating things I ever did was keep a journal for about a year when I was 22. I re…
/r/seduction13/04/24 09:34 AM
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she started giving me feedback on the interaction and told me that I actually did really well and it was not creepy at all. Friends who are women are absolute gold dust when it comes to shit like this. Most women are socialised to be far more competent socially than the average man as they hit adulthood, and are able to see and explain things to you as they appear to women. And not as they appear to lunatics who see women as the security system to a vagina.
/r/seduction13/04/24 07:07 AM
1

That would depend entirely on the dynamic between myself and the specific woman. I don't say the same things to all women. No two encounters are ever the same.
/r/seduction13/04/24 06:57 AM
2

Why do you stop there. Why aren't you in utter despair that you're utterly incompetent in a lot of other areas too? When you figure that out, you'll have a clearer picture of your emotional state.
/r/seduction12/04/24 10:50 PM
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Believe it or not man, people generally don't like being interrogated. Which is what this is: I ask them how their day is, their likes/dislikes A conversation is much different and involves the talking and listening being shared. If women are not talking back, stop talking to them.
/r/seduction12/04/24 10:48 PM
3

Think of a specimen in a jar that will at some point in the future exist, in a lab you will definitely work at at some point in the future. That's a female to these people.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 02:27 PM
6

The same reason that people think that they get more sexual interest when they're taken: they talk to women the same way they'd talk to dudes because they're in a relationship and faithful. And that is rare enough that women will - in comparison to what women were like to them when they were single - appear very interested. Even if they're just being more open around them because they are less likely to need to have to have their guards up about them being a potential sex pest.
/r/seduction12/04/24 02:00 PM
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You should learn to embrace discomfort. In the right measure and for the right amount of time, discomfort means you're being challenged to grow and adapt. I've lived about half of a human life span, and nearly all of my most entertaining stories and anecdotes are of the times in my life when I struggled and eventually succeeded. My very best stories are where I struggled, and failed. Who wants to hear that I went on a holiday to the beach and had a real nice time? My ma, my closest of friends, b…
/r/seduction12/04/24 05:42 AM
1

The results he is proudly boasting about - posted in bold - would suggest otherwise but sure man enjoy your tedious pedantry.
/r/seduction12/04/24 03:36 AM
4

I've always been partial to that style of learning myself. The thought of imitating some other dude was so god damn grimy. It's not very often you'll meet a strong socialiser who has read a paper on the subject though. There is just no substitute for humiliating yourself in the flesh at the end of the day.
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:58 PM
2

I cannot tell you how terrible I'd feel if an algorithm that had no ability to reason could out perform me in the act of dating. Holy moly.
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:40 PM
4

That is a very interesting looking book. Though holy shit is it an academic work and not an instructional work. One of the single biggest downsides I saw from dudes who studied picking up women as if for a test was that they'd get lost in minutia and lose complete sight of what the hell they actually supposed to be doing. I felt bad imagining them trying to remember steps, lines, and formulas while a girl is trying to tell them about what she's studying.
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:35 PM
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Yeah, definitely don't. Just look at all of the solid gold responses such as.... literotica. A porn site where the comments are 10k words long.
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:28 PM
1

The advice seems sort of like just enjoy yourself until a girl plants herself on you. Couldn't have put it more succinctly. Do you like fun? Do you like hanging around people who facilitate fun times? Women do. Men too. I am fortunate to have a lot of friends. Having a really good time without needing the approval of others but also not intruding on the ability of others to have fun too is something a lot of women want to be around. I think it's plenty proactive to go out and have a lot of fun. …
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:19 PM
1

Getting the most sexually unsuccessful men to believe that watching adult content as adults is what is holding them back from dating success has to be up there with the best trolls of all time.
/r/seduction11/04/24 06:11 PM
0

Very odd religion but fair enough.
/r/seduction11/04/24 06:08 PM
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I really want to see/read Dialogs, not just Tipps Go read and study the comments to pornhub videos. If you don't want to because that would be absolutely worthless at best and make you more repellent to women at worst, reassess the necessity of this post.
/r/seduction11/04/24 05:33 PM
2

I get in an intimate/sensual conversation with a hot girl, but then after some time she realizes I don’t have the balls to escalate. Can I ask why you assume this? Is it not possible that you keep saying weird, off-putting shit to women and they leave because people don't like that? What does this: But just like usual, I’ll get excited but won’t build up the nerve to ever really go for it. mean exactly? I pretty much spent 15 years dancing in clubs and I never, ever, ever asked a woman to dance.…
/r/seduction11/04/24 02:28 PM
1

What the hell is with you guys and writing fan fiction about my sex life?
/r/seduction11/04/24 02:56 AM
3

Yeah you're free to be ashamed of the way you are like this guy by all means. The only reason strange amounts of eye contact are considered bad is because it is 'not normal'. There is nothing inherently bad about not looking at someone enough, but it's mostly associated with deception and lies. The goal is to make people aware that you know you're transgressing social norms, and are working on it. That puts their lizard brain at ease.
/r/seduction11/04/24 02:56 AM
2

Hahaha true say. Good luck.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:36 PM
2

Hahahaha actually man now that I think about it, if a girl was pursuing me like that, I'd think she was running some sort of scam like street hustlers trying to get you to buy a 'real' rolex. I think I understand your trepidation a bit. Sorry for being a bit of a penis. Honestly though, I think it's pretty likely you're good to go have a date.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:34 PM
2

That's fair enough. In my opinion from what you have said the giant SHOOT YOUR SHOT message being fired into the night sky in the form of fireworks by her means you should probably go on a date with her before she takes your inaction as a very public and embarrassing rejection.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:25 PM
3

Am I missing something? The only part of your OP that suggests anything other than extremely overt and active interest in dating you is 'doesn't text first'.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:20 PM
5

Seriously. 'A woman is actively pursuing me trying to set up a date. What strategy should I use to navigate this absolute minefield of difficulties?!'
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:16 PM
7

Cool, get a friend to give their opinion. Female if possible.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:14 PM
-1

Cool then your rebuttal should be devastating because straw mans are - like their name - very beatable. I'll wait.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:03 PM
0

They do not. A real magician googles 'magic' and reads how to do tricks on an anonymous web forum and then goes out on stage and does a trick where he kills a crowded room entirely with just excruciating second hand embarrassment. Sex isn't done at people. It's done with people. Positioning women entirely in the role of an audience member judging your performance in a metaphor says so much about you.
/r/seduction10/04/24 04:59 PM
16

My experience when it comes to the women I've been with is that as long as the smell isn't off-putting, it doesn't really matter how it smells. The smell, whatever it is, becomes associated with you. To this day when I see my ex and giver her a hello hug she claims her heart-rate drops 20bpm as soon as she smells me. She associates that smell with safety, security, and 'feeling small' and protected. In my completely layman not at all scientific experience, pick something you like, and that women…
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:31 PM
5

I am an autistic guy who didn't get diagnosed until I was a geezer. I had a lot of trouble with eye contact through to young adulthood. I found the best way to deal with it was when I've been talking to someone for a bit and I know they've noticed that my eye contact was not good, I'd say to them 'oh just so you know, I'm not good at eye contact, I'm really enjoying chatting with you and don't want you to think I'm not interested or being rude.' If that sounds autistic as fuck, yes, it was autis…
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:00 PM
0

Er, dude, have you, er, asked your wife? I don't know your wife man. Different girls like different things. Ask her what her fantasies are, and what fantasies she'd be interested in making real and which ones are fine to just stay fantasies. Then do those things. Please don't listen to men on reddit about what to do to your wife.
/r/seduction10/04/24 02:55 PM
5

Not one of you guys has rebutted why he felt that way to begin with in his post or why his experiences from his perspective shouldn't jade someone. Why would I do this? He made his choices. He told his story. It sounds like he had a long journey, but the ending was sad. I empathise with him. So yes, my criticism was my opinion of the vibes, because it's not my place to police his actions or his thoughts, short of it harming someone. And I think it's fair to do that. Do I really need to tear down…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/24 01:48 PM
16

Ah. Illuminating. So once someone is deemed an endorsed contributor, respectful criticism clearly labelled as a personal opinion is forbidden. Respectfully, I'm a grown man and as such consider censoring my personal opinion for that reason would be disrespectful to myself, and to anyone who takes the time and reads what I have to say. But, rules are rules. You don't have to ban unless you feel you need to. I respect that every community has standards and won't contribute again if I disagree with…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/24 08:13 AM
9

Wow. That is an incredibly sad, angry, and bitter man right there. I'm struggling to discern a point that might help someone. Ok. Can't just bitch or I'm no better. I'll tell another story. One day, I made one of the most important decisions of my life. I decided that I would rather die never having sex again than do something I don't think is right, or don't enjoy, just so I fit into society's mould. I decided that even as a rampant haver of sex, by the time I'm knocking on death's door only a …
/r/TheRedPill10/04/24 07:52 AM
2

Oh so like dating and progressing to kissing / sex? I wrote this a million years ago. It's worked more times than I can count. Hope it helps. Shake hands, sit down for a coffee, get chatting, see if you vibe. I never expect a first date to go for much more than half an hour. If I like her I'll ask her out for a second date. Usually hug second date considering we'd have been texting in between dates and considerably closer. Have dinner / few drinks / chat. Suggest a walk. Now, if she has accepted…
/r/seduction10/04/24 07:27 AM
4

Straight up ask her out while taking care to get across that you won't turn into a sulky weirdo if she declines. If you are already friends, she absolutely knows enough about you to make an informed decision about whether or not she wants to date you. If you start hugging her or feeling her up or talking about weird shit out of the blue, you will freak her out guaranteed.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:53 AM
47

Caring about her Good lord. Do you even like women dude? What is wrong with you. I'd consider it disrespecting myself to have sex with someone I had absolutely no opinion of. Be too nice I guarantee very good results if you never attempt to be nice and instead attempt to be respectful (of her AND yourself) and kind. The rest is not really problematic.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:50 AM
2

Can I have some tips regarding what to do to go past the flirting stage If flirting is going well, usually you ask them out.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:37 AM
7

If it's the first time we're meeting in person I pretty much always shake their hand unless they are a hugger and make the move to hug me first. If the success or failure of your date depends on whether or not you hug at the start, you have no idea why you're succeeding or failing. Believe it or not, some girls don't really want guys they don't know to force their way into their personal space. For some reason this concept makes certain weirdos furious.
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:34 AM
153

My kingdom for guys to realise that it's ok to reply when you see the message and have the time and frame of mind to respond. Whether that be 30 seconds or 12 hours if work is fucked. You know how you send a text message and the girl replies right away and it makes you feel valued and important? Do you think they don't feel that too? Unless you are lying to them about having a job and are really just jacking off to cartoons all day, it is normal and fine to return texts fast when you're not busy…
/r/seduction10/04/24 05:31 AM
8

Text like you talk. Use emojis to guide the tone.
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:42 AM
2

Think I've found your problem. The good or bad news is that practice makes perfect. You just get better. I was never a good talker, but 50% of a conversation is listening, so I just got real good at that. Girls who liked to talk and me got on like a house on fire.
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:36 AM
6

Dating from 18-23 outside of college settings is honestly very tough. You're in the dating pool with grown ass men with careers, maturity, cash, and something closer to confidence. It sucks for most people, but just keep developing for yourself, and time will throw an assist when you're ready.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 03:30 AM
1

It depends and differs man. A study in Brazil reckons: Researchers have found that, regardless of sexual orientation, individuals prioritize intelligence and kindness over physical attractiveness, health, or socioeconomic status when choosing a partner. So intelligence would mean you're engaging her intellectually, so, be relevant to her particular interests. Kindness I would guess would be invoking feelings of safety, and feeling valuable and important. Assuming women are just normal people, do…
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:11 AM
3

It's easy man. Like you said you've got the physical attractiveness down. That'll get your foot in the door. But if all you are is nice to look at, you're as important as a nice rug, or tasteful house plant. If you want a chick to stay around, you have to be cool to be around. How do you feel you fare in that department?
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:05 AM
0

Good question. It's fucking stupid. Does he need to know where to put the penis?
/r/seduction09/04/24 11:05 PM
-1

Oh hello. Maybe try explaining why I'm wrong sometime instead of hiding in my comments replying to others about how mean I am like an unfathomably huge coward. I will absolutely make you look bad though. But I think you know that because of the no arguments and replying to anyone who isn't me thing.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:32 PM
1

If you see her outside of work, sure. Shoot your shot. While she's on the clock and has to humour weird bullshit from anyone or else she risks losing her fucking job, do not fucking do that.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:23 PM
0

INTIMATE PARTNER. Someone you are already having sex with. Why would discussing sex be taboo if you're already having it?
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:16 PM
2

lol. Pathetic. 3000 words saying nothing and now you're shy :-)
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:15 PM
1

No, they build a social base again, then start doing what I'm doing.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:15 PM
1

No, I have a good time with my friends and due to being in highly social environments during the course of having a fucking blast I encounter strange women naturally and get to know them. Stop speaking like a fucking idiot. Humans don't talk like that.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:51 AM
0

What. The fuck. Are you babbling about? I talk to female strangers all the time. I just don't approach them apropos of nothing like a fucking weirdo.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:31 AM
-3

How would you describe confidence?
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:52 AM
-3

Why are you using 'expressive' and impulsively saying whatever as synonyms?
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:51 AM
1

Why are you giving advice on a skill you don’t have? Why would I do something that is worse in literally every way than my current method. Social life, sure, although if you spend time socialising outside of inherently social settings you get even better at it. I spent on average about 30 hours a week in pubs and nightclubs from age 16 to about 26. I assure you I have every skill worth having.
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:36 AM
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Old.
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:11 AM
1

How many women did you approach with this me this method last week and how did it go? I don't approach women I don't know. That behaviour is for weird losers. I meet huge numbers of women with my normal work and social life.
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:11 AM
1

Fair enough man I'm unfortunately of piss poor help in that sense but godspeed on your search!
/r/seduction09/04/24 12:29 AM
1

A first year psychology textbook would be where I'd recommend you start. But you will never learn from any book how two unique people have love for each other. I have love for my family, my found family, my partners, and to a lesser degree for myself. You're only talking about one type of love of many, and no two are the same.
/r/seduction09/04/24 12:11 AM
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There's no point in directly working on confidence. It's such a nebulous term that if you ask 10 guys what the definition is, you'll get 10 different answers Sure. I can get around that. Weird how you immediately do exactly what you're warning against though. The two things that are the biggest indicators of confidence when it comes to dating are: Expressiveness Ability to escalate/take action I mean, I agree that saying the first thing that pops into your brain is better than manipulation, lyin…
/r/seduction09/04/24 12:00 AM
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It is creep shit for guys who are too old to hit on women who are too young. If a woman is bringing up the age gap, she's telling you 'hey, old dude, stop being insanely weird' and probably has 91 dialled on her phone and her finger hovering over the 1. Act your age.
/r/seduction08/04/24 11:50 PM
1

Dude I'm not going to sit here and explain when people are making fun of you.
/r/seduction08/04/24 09:32 PM
0

Ah. Good. Something worthwhile. To anyone who is so socially un-calibrated you can read this exchange and like this fucking moron think you're in a position to make any demands, you are embarrassing.
/r/seduction08/04/24 09:22 PM
7

I very, very rarely co-sign everything something says but I'd add my name to the bottom of this letter.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 09:02 PM
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Oh god you're one of those tedious weirdos. Sorry man. Forget I said anything. I retract it all. Just please stop typing words at me.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:58 PM
-5

Wow man! It's clever how you flipped it to insinuate that I was making fun of myself and not your heros! And sorry for my potty mouth, didn't know children were present.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:47 PM
10

I'm convinced the unconscious assumptions against men of shorter stature are born from an unexamined bias from primary school where the biggest kid is the scariest kid. I've been in fight gyms my whole life and have routinely had my ass kicked by men shorter than me. The best MMA fighter ever is Mighty Mouse and I'll hear arguments to the contrary but you're wrong. I have never assumed anything about a short man since I was a child.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:34 PM
3

No, he probably wants someone who doesn't have a monetary investment in men staying lonely and sad.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:30 PM
1

You learn to read social situations and shoot your shot when it is appropriate and with no weird or outsized feelings on the line. If you feel bad after a rejection, it's because there's far, far, far too much on the line for you.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:29 PM
2

I don't want her man. Who do you want her to like? You? Or your imitation of me?
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:23 PM
5

Ignoring someone is a form of Higher Value . So duuuuhhhhhh . That has been a known fact since 2006 . No, it's been presupposed by some of the least capable and most embarrassing social actors ever seen. If you want to be fucking cool and mysterious like you think an anime protag-kun is, go the fuck ahead, you'll get the results you deserve.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:18 PM
3

Depends on the gyal, the venue, the culture, and how into you she is. Where I'm at at any busy pub / nightclub that's open to til the small hours is fine for kissing but in other places a little bit more privacy is necessary. Use your best judgement.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:14 PM
1

Sex isn't something you do at women. You do it with them. The only question this is relevant to is your intimate partner. The internet and your mates have no idea what Some Woman likes.
/r/seduction08/04/24 08:01 PM
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I wish all decent dudes luck using whatever means available, but I'd be surprised if online dating ever reaches the heights of ten-ish years ago again. The benefits women got from physical distance from potential weirdos was pretty quickly outweighed by cascades of misogyny, catfishers, scammers, a frankly ever-growing gender imbalance, and unsolicited pictures of penises. It's ironic that the internet forced dating back into the real world.
/r/seduction08/04/24 11:01 AM
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My dude, you're a 36 year old man and approaching women like this? They probably think you're a talent scout of some shit so they fish, find out you're a particularly embarrassing single guy, and get the fuck away from you as fast as humanly possible. Sort yourself out and act like a god damn adult.
/r/seduction08/04/24 09:23 AM
6

Honestly.
/r/seduction08/04/24 03:46 AM
2

And petulant children! You're a catch!
/r/seduction08/04/24 03:43 AM
2

Keep making excuses. Women love excuse makers.
/r/seduction08/04/24 03:41 AM
1

I live in a town of about 200k and have had 2 serious relationships with 2 of the best women on planet earth and dozens upon dozens of less serious encounters. Your excuse is insanely bad. I don't know what 'you're type' is, but if it's so specific only 100 women in every million people fit the bill, good luck.
/r/seduction08/04/24 03:32 AM
0

Er, cocorrect man, I'm not, just an adult who knows what is and is not dangerous advice to give unlike your unfathomably stupid ass. Make sure you tell your entire family how wrong they are too lol
/r/seduction08/04/24 02:15 AM
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You advance past small talk with real opinions. One of you are going to have to be vulnerable, and then that will have to be reciprocated if you're going to be anything more than acquaintances. If you are trying to get a girl to go back to your house before you've kissed her, good luck. If you're kissing, 'let's get outta here' will be fine.
/r/seduction08/04/24 12:54 AM
7

I'm sorry you experienced that. I grew up in the 90s without a dad, and had terrible problems with my masculinity. I knew I was supposed to 'be a man', but what the fuck did that mean? It took me a long time to answer that question. Be generous to yourself. Growing up is confusing and difficult, but never let society gaslight you. Always hold a candle within yourself that you are worth something and deserve to be respected by everyone you gift your time to. The opinions of others will still shap…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 12:37 AM
3

First of all, that's an excellent outlook. Good for you. As for tips and tricks, I'll keep it simple. Play to your strengths. For me, I wasn't good at talking, so I got very good at listening.... and dancing. Between those two skills, I have had several lifetimes of fun. Think about what your strengths are and play to them. Don't pretend to be someone else. You'll only be an imitation of them, but you could be the realest you. One more, women are people. They like people who are fun and make the…
/r/seduction08/04/24 12:21 AM
22

My dude, speak to the woman you are actually having sex with about this shit, not random people online. It will differ for every individual. The answer for dozens of women I can personally vouch for is 'rail me in the disabled bathroom of a crowded pub', but that information is literally worthless to you unless you meet one of those women and find out.
/r/seduction08/04/24 12:10 AM
2

20 times on insta and 30 times on FB The board game 'Go' has a saying that you have to lose 100 games before you're a beginner. You have put less effort into interacting with women not even irl, through the internet, then someone who plays Go. You should be ashamed of yourself.
/r/seduction07/04/24 11:43 PM
-3

Absolutely. You've tried nothing and are all out of ideas. Go be alone and sad until time stops. If you feel like being a grown up at any stage you can always come back.
/r/seduction07/04/24 11:39 PM
0

You're not a doctor. So shut up.
/r/seduction07/04/24 11:37 PM
1

Hahahaha thanks for your little bit of fanfiction on my sex life. Extremely weird to do that but hey.
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:58 PM
3

Yeah that's what I thought.
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:53 PM
1

I wrote this a million years ago. It's worked more times than I can count. Hope it helps. Shake hands, sit down for a coffee, get chatting, see if you vibe. I never expect a first date to go for much more than half an hour. If I like her I'll ask her out for a second date. Usually hug second date considering we'd have been texting in between dates and considerably closer. Have dinner / few drinks / chat. Suggest a walk. Now, if she has accepted the second date, she definitely finds you attractiv…
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:08 PM
-2

Post your name, credentials, and where you're licensed to practice or don't give medical advice you incomprehensibly huge dipshit.
/r/seduction07/04/24 09:36 PM
0

Don't do this and take medical advice from a fucking idiot who is not a doctor from reddit. Talk to a guy with a degree in medicine and a license to practice.
/r/seduction07/04/24 09:33 PM
2

Please take 3 minutes of your day to watch this so you don't end up in prison.
/r/seduction07/04/24 09:06 PM
8

I don't really know man and I'm not sure there are many people here that are women who post relationship goals memes to social media while being extremely sexually liberated so I'm not sure you'll get a very useful answ- .... "Hey, I know I'm engaging is not condusive to what i am actually wanting so i am projecting this out" Actually I think you'll find a lot of first hand experience here. Good question.
/r/seduction07/04/24 09:03 PM
2

Good question. I'd like to know too. I had the project lined up last year but life got in the way and now look. I've got like 2 years of notes and fuck all actual impact.
/r/seduction07/04/24 08:52 PM
13

Go to a doctor and say 'I have extreme anxiety and it's affecting my ability to socialise competently' and then fix your anxiety.
/r/seduction07/04/24 07:32 PM
45

lol 'Hey guys I fell bass ackwards into an orgy and accidentally got trophies for largest penis, most semen, and most likely to be raised to the level of deity, is this very common?'
/r/seduction07/04/24 07:25 PM
-1

I want a girl to actually like me for me Funny. I read The Game in 05 and thought 'I would rather die a virgin than sleep with a woman by pretending to be a weirdo's idea of an interesting person just to have sex'. If a woman didn't like what I was about, I didn't want her. It's absurdly weird that you differentiate between yourself and 'what you bring to the table'. I bring an absolute shitload to the table because that's what living a fruitful life gets you, but that just means I have standard…
/r/seduction07/04/24 07:16 PM
1

If you think I intended to, you're a moron, which tracks.
/r/seduction07/04/24 06:57 PM
4

Authenticity is vital. It's only a matter of time before she finds out who you really are anyway. May as well rip that band aid off and be authentic from the jump.
/r/seduction07/04/24 04:36 AM
21

Having fun is very important, but there are different types of fun characters out there. I know men and women who are very fun but the opposite of easy going lol.
/r/seduction07/04/24 04:35 AM
214

There was a study I read where women were asked to imagine their perfect 10/10 hottest man, and then asked if they'd 'trade' attractiveness points for certain traits. The trait that the most women would trade the most for was an easy going attitude.
/r/seduction07/04/24 01:55 AM
1

lol
/r/seduction07/04/24 01:48 AM
1

Sounds like a plan to me man. Good luck.
/r/seduction07/04/24 12:17 AM
1

Fantastic. Talk to a doctor though.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/24 11:46 PM
1

"Hi, you're very handsome and have a great body. Do you have Instagram?" Uhhuh. Although I hadn't given her my number and the topic hadn't arisen between us, the girl somehow found my number Uhhuh. Perhaps she sensed something because I hadn't initiated any conversations, replied late, and seemed unwilling to engage. Yeah man totally. Excuse me while I skim another thousand words of terrible fanfic. I'm gradually disregarding societal norms. Oh good. Women love people much bigger and stronger th…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/24 11:32 PM
2

Friendzones are something people build, sit down in, and cry. They don't exist unless you build them. It's extremely unprofessional to attempt to date clients in most fields of work, but if you know that and don't give a fuck for whatever reason, ask her out. Complete that task and you're out of the friendzone. Unless of course she says no and instead of taking it like an adult you mewl and moon after her anyway instead of getting on with life. Ask her out. Or date people outside of working rela…
/r/seduction06/04/24 11:22 PM
-3

It's no problem. Lot of girls are gay. Lot of girls are bi.
/r/seduction06/04/24 10:56 PM
1

True, you're definitely not arguing with me. Also, your fanfic about me is wrong, but it is obviously a security blanket of yours and I'm not a monster.
/r/seduction06/04/24 06:32 PM
0

It's 2024 you fucking loser. Also, this is part of the reason you're struggling. I don't doubt there is much, much more aside from this.
/r/seduction06/04/24 06:28 PM
1

Would you look down on that? If you would, I can tell you why you're struggling.
/r/seduction06/04/24 06:27 PM
-2

4 hours!? You made awkward conversation with each other for four hours?! Well, fair enough. Maybe if you creep them out with weird sex talk they'll get an emergency call and you won't have to spend 4 hours doing that. Good lord man.
/r/seduction06/04/24 09:54 AM
0

lol 'blaming women is what makes men successful' sounds like something an evil feminist would say
/r/seduction06/04/24 09:13 AM
0

Cool man enjoy confusion and failure. Also, grow up and take responsibility for your failures.
/r/seduction06/04/24 09:08 AM
1

Because otherwise you're inadequate / insecure and too much of a baby to admit it.
/r/seduction06/04/24 08:56 AM
1

Conceptualise away. Insecurity and inadequacy is what it is.
/r/seduction06/04/24 08:56 AM
-1

No elaboration is necessary. He needs to believe that women are doing things to him instead of him being inadequate and insecure. I cannot be clearer.
/r/seduction06/04/24 07:48 AM
3

Why don't you just do a little role reversal? Women - despite the protestations of subs like this - are just people. If you were physically smaller than the vast majority of men, either have been or intimately know someone who has been abused by men, and had been leered at by men since they were like 10, what would you consider ideal conditions for one to march up to you and inform you in a very roundabout way that you made his no no parts feel funny?
/r/seduction06/04/24 07:46 AM
9

This is an amazing post. A subreddit full of guys asking 'why can't I get laid' while being proudly insecure about their masculinity just cannot be fictionalised. Reality is the only thing that can create such authentic insecurity.
/r/seduction06/04/24 07:42 AM
3

but you do want to bring sex up in a humorous way at some point after the 1st date if you haven't closed. No you don't. You just get to the stage where you kiss, then you can have sex pretty much at will. You do not need to talk about sex at all until you're having it and doing so risks you being labelled a creep. Enjoy.
/r/seduction06/04/24 06:15 AM
1

Yeah, they should stop being weird, insecure, and deluded.
/r/seduction06/04/24 06:14 AM
0

Yeah once, my partner at the time wanted to put eye liner on me. I am not joking when I say I had about a half dozen compliments from women exclusively and if I'm honest, it looked pretty fucking great. Men either didn't notice or didn't want to call the big scary looking geezer with eye liner a fairy. I have not done it since because those half dozen compliments made me uncomfortable since men aren't generally complimented that much so I downgraded back to a basic cleans / moisturise routine an…
/r/seduction06/04/24 04:19 AM
1

Cool that's not the subject of this post.
/r/seduction06/04/24 04:12 AM
0

In fact, men who don't know how they can improve should look at the things they consider 'shit tests' and start there.
/r/seduction06/04/24 04:12 AM
-1

Shouldn't be that big a deal unless you're failing these tests And if you're 'failing' these 'tests' maybe you should be better and worth dating like my title says instead of projecting onto women that they're 'doing bad tests :-((((((' to you.
/r/seduction06/04/24 04:06 AM
1

I have no desire for those people to side with me. As far as I'm concerned you can either accept the wisdom independent of my abrasiveness, make a counter argument and begin a discussion, or downvote like a sad baby and scurry away still believing your stupid bullshit (how emotional! Like a woman!) and living a life of confusion and failure. I don't give a shit which one people pick, I'll engage with them all. e: lol I guess this guy chose the emotional (like a woman!) block button. Don't be lik…
/r/seduction06/04/24 03:30 AM
4

lol I just realised you don't talk to women about sex after actually having sex with her. Holy shit man lol
/r/seduction06/04/24 03:26 AM
0

lol hello you didn't need to out yourself but good for you. If I'm weak, I'm going to at least expect that to be proven, which your mewling is not doing for me. I don't see conflict as bad, and I WANT people to attack me (read: my arguments, unless you can use the internet in a way I'm unfamiliar with) but places like this are stacked with cowardly shitbirds with no arguments who can't even have an online fight without feeling seen.
/r/seduction06/04/24 03:22 AM
-6

farrrrrrrt yeah man I'm also testing you to see if you can parse English at a high school level. The results are in and they're not good.
/r/seduction06/04/24 03:19 AM
0

True, but you do talk about sex. Unless you are insanely bad at sex.
/r/seduction06/04/24 03:19 AM
0

There was a reply here, but it's gone now, but here's my reply to that because I already wrote it. If people want to take offence and 'not be on my side' because I think shit tests sounds like and is stupid bullshit for idiots, that's fine. If you care so much about a phrase, that is absurdly sad. And yes, I'm being combative. It's effective at what I'm trying to do, which is make people THINK about why they believe shit. The realisation that they've been embarrassing and wrong is not nice, but …
/r/seduction06/04/24 03:02 AM
1

Therapy usually man.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:40 AM
1

Dumb as shit. I can't believe it's survived like 15 years while sounding stupid and being wrong.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:38 AM
3

Boomshakalaka. Yep.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:38 AM
-3

When you're having / have had sex?
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:37 AM
-3

Holy shit what a mess of a reply. Guys who aren't as socially capable will often respond poorly. So they're socially inadequate and insecure about it? It's not about feeling insecure Oh.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:36 AM
3

How about you just don't be a weird creep?
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:35 AM
-6

lol you need to think this. Figure out why sometime.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:35 AM
1

Hmm. Unfamiliar.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:34 AM
10

It's not a shit test. You felt inadequate. You felt inadequate because you're still a baby, baby.
/r/seduction06/04/24 12:27 AM
-4

What gaps are in your knowledge? Surely you know how to dress like a dickhead and target the youngest, most naive women on earth for his little manipulation routines.
/r/seduction06/04/24 12:25 AM
1

It actually wasn't until I went from competitive middleweight boxer to fat motherfucker (the combat sports 'I've retired and don't need 10k calories a day' special) that I truly gained some insight into confidence. No, you do not need to lose weight for confidence. You do that for it's inferior cousin: validation. Confidence doesn't have any parameters you MUST meet with the exception that your talent better be able to cash any checks your mouth writes. Everyone's journey to confidence will diff…
/r/seduction06/04/24 12:20 AM
72

Bringing up sexual topics apropos of nothing with someone you don't know very well is one of the quickest scientifically studied ways to be labelled a fucking creep. You can avoid all of that by just getting to the point where you kiss. Once you're kissing, you don't need to talk her into bed. Unless you kiss like shit.
/r/seduction06/04/24 12:12 AM
1

'Dominates me'? What does that look like?
/r/seduction06/04/24 12:10 AM
-4

Hey. You. You fear comparison?
/r/seduction05/04/24 01:29 AM
1

Hahaha you think a king needs to flex? Weak king. If the girl prefers the other guy, you still want someone who routinely makes terrible decisions? Self respect dude.
/r/seduction05/04/24 01:26 AM
0

Godspeed rocketman.
/r/seduction04/04/24 09:47 PM
-5

You fear a comparison?
/r/seduction04/04/24 09:47 PM
2

Unironically good song.
/r/seduction04/04/24 09:46 PM
1

Just keep in mind that if you need to tell people you're in charge, you're not in charge. When you try and act up in front of people, people see through it. I don't need to tell you what they see isn't good.
/r/seduction04/04/24 07:39 PM
0

Have you considered that doing this makes you a pathetic weirdo? What a shit thing to do.
/r/seduction04/04/24 07:30 PM
1

I also feel a bit more pushy when I try to show up in front of her friends. May I ask what the fuck you're doing this for? Do you like it when people start doing this to you when you're hanging with your mates?
/r/seduction04/04/24 07:29 PM
0

No.
/r/seduction04/04/24 07:23 PM
-4

Wow. Ok man you need to be paying attention to your date. It's 95% likely that it's things you're saying and you're not clocking that they absolutely do not approve. Because this is reddit, let me go ahead and just list off some things that are going to piss like 80% of women off: racist 'jokes', actually, make that all of your super cool not at all cringy 'edgy' humour, fuck all job / direction in life, fuck all plans for a future, paying zero attention to the things she's saying, all those fuc…
/r/seduction04/04/24 09:02 AM
-18

Nah. Sorry dude, but all the women I've had exclusive relationships with have not cheated. When you fucking live with someone, you pick up on the subtlest changes, and cheating is not fucking subtle. And even if she was a fucking stealth mastermind, my network is too large. It would always get back to me. Good luck. e: Why are there so many piss babies mashing the block button up in here? To everyone, you desperately need to believe I don't have the secret. You're scared of your inadequacy. Do b…
/r/seduction04/04/24 08:37 AM
3

Like it was from a textbook. Well said. Yes, this exactly. I'm sorry for what happened in that relationship. We learn and we grow, but being naive shouldn't be punished so extremely. But predators seek out people who excuse bad behaviour, because their mask always slips. Take care out there yeah?
/r/seduction04/04/24 06:05 AM
56

There will be things the other person says or does early on when you're just casually seeing each other that you'll take note of. Some will be good, some will be bad. The catastrophic mistake the vast majority of men and women make is they excuse behaviours that they find inappropriate because they like the sex or the companionship or the free therapist if half the comments are to be believed, and that's exactly where they fuck up. Don't excuse behaviour you find inappropriate. If you choose to …
/r/seduction04/04/24 04:27 AM
3

I am a big, scary looking geezer with a resting bitch face up there with the best. My last partner's first impression of me was 'terrifying'. I have never, ever had a strange woman want anything to do with me just by looking scary as fuck, and it would be fucking weird if they did.
/r/seduction04/04/24 02:16 AM
203

I've never been cheated on in my life. The secret sauce is to observe their behaviour early on in the dating process for behaviours that make you uncomfortable and - this is the hard bit - not fucking dating the women whose behaviour makes you insecure or uncomfortable. Cheating behaviour doesn't drop out of the sky. Anyone trying to sell you a different narrative is a loser.
/r/seduction04/04/24 01:56 AM
2

You can stop any time.
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:37 PM
-2

I'm not reading that stupid bullshit my friend. If you don't know that AI will just lie to you and you are using it to shape your worldview, wow.
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:33 PM
2

I never lost the ability to hook up with 16 and 17 year olds. Fucking freak man. Stop replying to me. Got nothing to say to this mewling.
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:32 PM
0

Yeah man I'm happy to stand by my initial words and you can stand by that thing if youre happy I'm happy.
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:20 PM
-1

HAHAHAHAHHAHA
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:18 PM
-1

If you study inter sexual dynamics or female psychology, women test men all the time. Show me.
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:11 PM
-3

or she is testing For god's sake guys. Women you don't know don't give a shit about testing you, and women you do know don't feel any need to test you. They're not doing anything TO you. They're just having fun that might include you. Thinking like this makes you sound like a lunatic.
/r/seduction03/04/24 09:03 PM
2

I know. Shit man, I didn't lose my virginity til I was nearly 21 because I was so autistic coming out of high school. Chill the fuck out and run your race.
/r/seduction03/04/24 08:47 PM
1

Aw. Feeling seen? No, why would it? Because they have lived - hopefully - at least 18 years that you know nothing about. If you think their experiences are worthless, you're wrong, and a fucking moron. Then they should be happy to find out you don't have to do that shit. Instead, the reaction is always that they somehow know through some sort of omniscience that men want sex, women want relationship, and therefore you do have to meet them in the middle and do all that James Marshall fucking soul…
/r/seduction03/04/24 08:46 PM
0

I suggested becoming something worth being attracted to but you mean deception or games to play to simulate that yeah?
/r/seduction03/04/24 12:11 AM
4

Dude, you're 18. You're in the dating pool with 27 year old grown ass men with careers, cash for cool, fun shit, and the ability to adult. I'm also not a nice guy. I heard this weird rumour that women are people and like being around people who make them feel good, maybe investigate this instead of listening to insecure weirdos.
/r/seduction02/04/24 11:57 PM
0

lol
/r/seduction02/04/24 11:52 PM
-4

In my insignificant opinion push / pull and all that weird shit are what I call 'games' and I have no time for them. I don't play games with anyone, and I demand the same treatment in return. Simplifies absolutely fucking everything. So no, it is not necessary. What is flirting? No seriously. I don't mean it in terms of 'what actually is the universe, man' I mean have you thought about it? In my opinion, it just means saying or doing things that another person finds attractive. Weirdos interpret…
/r/seduction02/04/24 10:25 PM
-1

Your mileage may vary.
/r/seduction02/04/24 06:07 AM
15

Some girls are curious but concerned with the implications of straight up sleeping with a girl. If a guy is involved it ain't gay, it's experimenting.
/r/seduction02/04/24 04:45 AM
25

Yeah dude it's easy you become FWB with a girl who plays for both teams and then volunteer next time she hits on a stratey potatey girl who needs the appearance of straightness in order to loosen up and get les. Alternatively, be known to a gay couple who occasionally don't mind a toy thrown in. Enjoy.
/r/seduction02/04/24 04:42 AM
-2

It's better than a lot of men's instincts because at the very least it thinks not exclusively of one person's wants and needs. YMMV.
/r/seduction02/04/24 04:40 AM
8

I've never gone home with 2 girls where we were all strangers prior to that night. Either the two girls or me and one of the girls always knew each other.
/r/seduction02/04/24 01:46 AM
0

Hahaha
/r/seduction02/04/24 01:39 AM
0

So you can't answer? Wow. Almost like your beliefs are dogmatic and not something you've actually thought through yourself. How embarrassing for you.
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:25 AM
0

For my amusement though, can you explain to me why women don't think it's a priority for a person they don't know to show they can behave in a socially acceptable way? Further, can you explain why actually they'd love to get talking very personally with this person that, again, they don't know? Thanks in advance.
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:04 AM
0

lol sure man enjoy your mastery hahahaha
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:01 AM
0

Just to answer you, albeit late, you can't build intimacy with shallow conversation. What you can do, is show women - who are very concerned for their safety - that you know how to behave yourself in accordance with the social contract. Your idiotic hyperfocus on what you want instead of what women want will be perceived as deeply unattractive to women. Think about that if you want.
/r/seduction01/04/24 11:58 PM
-1

No I think if this was to have any value at all, it would be if it was phrased in terms of being emotionally mature, and honest. Something like: I am terrified that my standards are stupid moron shit for insecure babies. I fear that my insecurities are walling off a cascade of life experience, and that I am failing at life by following this path. I would very much like for people to help me dispense with these fears by agreeing with me. What do you think? Or do you want to roll with the dominant…
/r/seduction01/04/24 11:37 PM
2

What the absolute fuck.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/24 10:15 PM
-2

No I'm not ready for it, because noone gives a fuck. This is everyone's personal business, and not another soul on earth needs to know. Worthless
/r/seduction01/04/24 09:53 PM
3

lol cool what's your plan?
/r/seduction27/03/24 06:59 PM
1

I don't know. You could probably ask him for a do-over.
/r/seduction27/03/24 04:04 PM
2

I also want to know how you be not nice to be around while simultaneously trying to get someone to like being around you. Seems like a really obviously bad idea but I can't wait to learn otherwise.
/r/seduction27/03/24 03:57 PM
4

Hahahahahahaha Sorry man. I can't help you. My philosophy is that small talk is one of the most underrated and powerful skills. So you might find my suggestions a bit small talk heavy for your wants lol.
/r/seduction27/03/24 03:54 PM
3

If she didn't think you had potential as a partner, she would not go on a date with you. If you seriously think that being decent is some sort of hindrance to dating, everybody already knows the solution. Go be an absolute penis. See how you go. But if you are so fucking online you think Chad's are at the club loudly berating and abusing women while they giggle and blush at his dominant masculinity, that's embarrassing. Being cool to be around is the most obviously fucking necessary trait when t…
/r/seduction27/03/24 03:06 PM
55

the guy is a typical nerd by looks. To be fair man, he's having a cool relationship and you're asking the internet how to get a tainted shadow of what he can just get.
/r/seduction27/03/24 03:01 PM
17

Yep. Abuse is grotesque. And it's never deserved. I hope you don't blame yourself in any way.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/24 08:56 AM
33

'Hi how's it going' has a career 99.9% success rate of placing me in a conversation.
/r/seduction27/03/24 08:37 AM
6

It's just a mode of communication man. You get good with practice. You will fuck up on the occasion, but I'll try and help by just giving a few guidelines you can use if you think they might be beneficial. Type like you speak. It's the easiest way I've found to find 'your voice' with texts, and it's also extremely handy when checking for coherence. If you ever want to double check, type your message, then record yourself reading it out loud and play it back. Boy howdy does that help you not soun…
/r/seduction27/03/24 07:13 AM
3

If you are scared to communicate in any way that feels right to you or is a necessity for effective reception of your point, ask yourself why. Being needy has absolutely nothing to do with how often you reply to the person you're supposed to like and who is supposed to like you. If you're needy, they'll figure it out. If you're not, you're free. Cast off the chains of single text messages.
/r/seduction27/03/24 06:56 AM
7

You talk to a shitload of different people of every race, religion, ethnicity, gender or lack thereof, age, everyone. Women are people. Just like everyone else on earth. No conversations are a waste of time when working to perfect the art of interpersonal relationships.
/r/seduction27/03/24 06:53 AM
5

lol I should have known. I'm a moron.
/r/seduction26/03/24 10:39 PM
2

You can believe me or not, but we find women attractive all the time. When they're dressed to go out. When they're hungover in the morning. If we like you, we like you. He is unlikely to make the first move because the whole fucking a roommate being a terrible idea thing. He is unlikely to interpret your sexy pjs / change in behaviour as hot because he's gotten really used to not sexualising you. I'm almost positive if you want something to happen, you're going to have to be direct, but again, g…
/r/seduction26/03/24 10:38 PM
2

What are you talking about? I didn't say anything about knowing him before you moved in. Ah whatever. I can see you're pretty set on trying to figure out a way where you can get what you want without being vulnerable or risking anything, so I'll tell you what I'd tell a dude, grow the fuck up, communicate like an adult.
/r/seduction26/03/24 10:28 PM
2

You guys are way past the point where flirting would be appropriate. When you're living with someone you know them really well. Your relationship has its own rhythm. If you start trying to flirt with him, it would be a bizarre departure from the behaviour he's used to seeing from you and it wouldn't be hot and exciting so much as weird. You guys are both adults. Seriously, just say 'hey I'm moving out in a few months and I'm horny. Do you feel like an FWB situation?' and see what he says.
/r/seduction26/03/24 10:19 PM
2

Then go get it you don't need any tricks or moves. Ask him if he's up for it.
/r/seduction26/03/24 10:16 PM
15

How did you get to 26 without knowing what a colossally bad idea fucking your roommate is? And describing it as easy is absolutely insane lol. Best of luck on your journey regardless. Hope the sex is mind blowing hahaha.
/r/seduction26/03/24 10:11 PM
0

I don't know what you mean then man. Sorry.
/r/seduction26/03/24 09:52 PM
1

Ah. I see. You're trying to follow the blueprint thrown around these spaces and you're trying to figure out how it wouldn't be weird as fuck to start feeling her up after a soul cycle session yeah? There is another way to date where the escalation is done differently. Like after soul cycle, ask her out for a second date. That's an escalation. You've hung out. You've spent some time together. She's seen you IRL. If you ask her out again and she says yes, she's essentially saying that she likes ev…
/r/seduction26/03/24 09:47 PM
15

It depends on the girl. Women find different things hot. Sexting is is an amazing word because it really is sex and communication, and both of those things are had with people, not something done at people. What form it takes depends on our unique chemistry. If you try and jack somebody else's horny messages and try and pass it off as your own work it will not be very successful.
/r/seduction26/03/24 09:33 PM
0

What do you think man? Come on. Don't ask weirdos online. Think about what you like, think about what she might like from what you know of her thus far, and go and have a date. When you put in some effort and thought it goes a long way to showing her who you are, and what you prioritise. This is just lazy.
/r/seduction26/03/24 09:24 PM
-1

Mmm sure.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:34 PM
1

Dude, there is no coming back from that. Apologise if you're sorry, and move on.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:25 PM
7

You know when someone rocks an outfit that should absolutely not work but it looks great? It's because they've learned how to express themselves with fashion. It's all about the feel, eventually. Everyone has to start somewhere, and I'd recommend learning the basics of fashion before you start fucking with them and finding what feels right for you. Lots of dudes overlook fashion, which is a shame. When you step looking and feeling amazing, it feels incredible.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:02 PM
-1

If you want to be good at sex with women, you are wasting your time listening to men.
/r/seduction26/03/24 07:41 PM
4

Classes at college are pretty much life's training wheels for meeting and dating people. It's really easy. Consistency. Every time you have class, say hello to her and her friend group, maybe a little bit of bullshit about the subject, then sit down and do the work. Gradually, turn the hello into small talk and eventually ask her out. Easy, relaxed, not weird or creepy, no problem.
/r/seduction26/03/24 07:29 PM
3

Man, none of us know your girlfriend. Do you know what turns her on? What her fantasies are?
/r/seduction26/03/24 07:15 PM
2

That's sad.
/r/seduction26/03/24 07:11 PM
2

True I don't think he was ever charged. But most humans can look at the evidence used to justify putting him on the no fly list and say quite confidently that the man did not give a shit about the concept of consent and is a genuine danger to women.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:28 AM
-8

Try presenting an argument against the things I write. Terrible opinions are an opportunity for correction and education. You won't though because I'll make you look like a fucking idiot.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:18 AM
5

Sure man. When you have sex one day you'll realise that you don't do sex AT someone. You do it WITH them. So skill and chemistry are extremely important when it comes to the quality of the sex that ends up happening. Every woman you will ever sleep with hopes you understand this one day.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:12 AM
1

He's just doing extreme training. Imagine the skill you'd need to appear not needy when your entire life centres on women's approval of you.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/24 08:01 AM
0

lol convincing.
/r/seduction26/03/24 07:54 AM
-21

No. It really isn't. If that is your thing.
/r/seduction26/03/24 07:54 AM
-10

I'm not a lawyer and you have google, enjoy.
/r/seduction26/03/24 04:28 AM
-13

Canada and Japan. Sorry your idols are weird.
/r/seduction26/03/24 04:26 AM
36

If you genuinely think that, that sucks. If you genuinely think there is something magical in a ten's vagina, let me go ahead and disabuse you of that notion. They are just human. The sex means as much as usual. You don't get yellow hair and levitate half a foot off the ground. And nobody on earth cares except for other weird and sexually unsuccessful dudes on the internet.
/r/seduction26/03/24 04:25 AM
-12

you desperately want to believe seduction is evil. What a weird little piece of fan fiction to just tack on the end. Two nations on earth looked at the behaviour of that stupid dipshit and considered him a sex criminal. I want to believe sex criminals are evil. Which they are. And I do!
/r/seduction26/03/24 04:16 AM
76

They absolutely did not fucking make it lol. Neil Strauss wrote a book about how pickup fucked his whole life up. Tyler Durden only 'made it' on to the sex criminal do not let into the country lists of at least 2 nations.
/r/seduction26/03/24 03:32 AM
8

Why don't you ask her? There's nothing wrong with asking a person what they mean when they do bizarre shit.
/r/seduction25/03/24 05:44 AM
4

This looks sort of normal to me. The first one sounds like it went great, but you got too pissed and embarrassed yourself. The second one there was no spark. The last two are the only ones with a semblance of a pattern in that they both just petered out. The sample size is just too small for me to have any sort of confidence in diagnosing any sort of problem other then just the fact that some people aren't compatible. Do you feel there's a pattern or some sort of problem in there?
/r/seduction25/03/24 01:49 AM
4

Compliments about a woman's attractiveness from people she doesn't know extremely well are usually taken negatively. As a general rule, people prefer to be complimented on things they've worked hard for, and not born with.
/r/seduction25/03/24 12:15 AM
12

You just talk to people of all ages and genders. Don't try and pick them up. Just chat until you find it effortless.
/r/seduction24/03/24 10:20 PM
11

Any literature or yt channel with the basics? The basics aren't in literature or youtube vids. The basics are being able to talk to girls without your mind exploding. Don't worry about dating right now. If your mind just goes blank when you're talking to a woman, you won't be able to remember anything you've seen or read anyway.
/r/seduction24/03/24 10:09 PM
6

Sure man, ask her if you need it for closure. I can't promise she'll respond, but that's just how it goes. If I had to make a guess, I'd say she's probably found someone who did ask her out, and she didn't need the drama of having to explain to him about her platonic boyfriend and then have her platonic boyfriend have a hissy fit when he finds out about the not-platonic boyfriend. It's up to you man, but in future, tell a person when you like them.
/r/seduction24/03/24 10:05 PM
2

The fish tastes sweeter when you wear it down over the course of several hours to the point where it stops, dies, and floats to the top lol I must look into this 'Mystery' fellow. I hope he doesn't wear goggles and giant furry hats.
/r/seduction24/03/24 02:08 PM
15

Neil Strauss - father of the red pill and author of The Game - wrote a sequel called The Truth or something that details how being a pickup artist fucked his whole life up requiring years of therapy. So there's a possibility that your friend may need professional help to work that poison out. There's also a possibility that he'll be hit like a bolt of lightening with the realisation that pretending to be an internet loser's idea of an attractive man is prima facie insane. De-radicalisation is a …
/r/ExRedPill24/03/24 01:51 PM
3

Yeah man I'm sure you act disinterested better than the impossibly good looking and high status men actually are disinterested.
/r/seduction24/03/24 01:34 PM
4

It's all over dating advice. It's just the rampant misuse of therapy talk to obfuscate the fact that they have no idea why their ex behaved the way they did 9 times out of 10.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/24 01:33 PM
3

Okie dokie
/r/seduction24/03/24 01:31 PM
3

You think acting disinterested is what will separate you from men with impossibly good looks and functionally infinite wealth?
/r/seduction24/03/24 01:30 PM
2

You don't think the most beautiful women on earth have much experience with someone who has looks and status?
/r/seduction24/03/24 01:27 PM
0

I haven't been rejected in many years. Basically I've gotten so good at reading people that asking them out is a formality. I know if they're into me.
/r/seduction24/03/24 09:21 AM
2

Ha. I'd attribute what you're seeing not to academic grades but the choices one makes about how they spent their time. In order to perform strongly in an academic setting, you usually need to study. Do you know what you're not doing when you're studying? Communicating and having fun with a wide variety of people in a variety of settings and circumstances. Their are benefits and drawbacks to every decision about how you spend your time. Academics are important, but if I was to give advice I'd str…
/r/seduction24/03/24 08:35 AM
3

What in the world do you mean by dominating her with non verbal cues? Extremely beautiful and wealthy women are around model calibre men constantly so it's not like they find men not simping for them unusual. What would make them choose you acting mysterious and aloof over those guys?
/r/seduction24/03/24 08:30 AM
7

Stop thinking in terms of percentage of success. It's one of those 'how long is a piece of string' questions. I've had women drag me off the dance floor and into a cab, so in that case, the things I said contributed 0%. Communication is multi-layered and highly complex. For example, I'd consider posture and body language aspects of effective communication. Teaching effective communication is very hard, because you can only teach people so much. Their individual's personality has to be heavily fa…
/r/seduction24/03/24 08:09 AM
3

Holy fucking shit I hope this sub doesn't turn into askmen where every question is a contrived excuse for a pity party or a circlejerk where we complain about women.
/r/seduction24/03/24 02:59 AM
3

Why does that matter? There is no objective time limit before it becomes good / bad to still be hung up on an ex. You need to decide what you can deal with and accept it or reject it. Just if you accept it, don't complain about it when it inevitably intrudes on the relationship.
/r/seduction24/03/24 02:48 AM
8

What the fuck? Guys you do not need pharmaceuticals to go on a fucking date and if you do you've got work to do. What are you going on a date for? Are you putting on a performance? Personally, there are few things more relaxing than going on a date, because I go in with the intention of being aggressively myself; just dressing slightly better than usual. If a woman is not down with how I am 95% of the time, I want to know now. If you go in not being yourself and performing, you're just delaying …
/r/seduction24/03/24 02:37 AM
6

If you choose to date a person who still has hang ups from a past relationship, that's a choice you've got to make for yourself. Just don't complain when hang ups from a past relationship intrude on your current one.
/r/seduction24/03/24 02:26 AM
11

What on earth... Man life does not revolve around picking up women.
/r/seduction23/03/24 11:48 AM
2

Er, yeah man you don't drop dead after a thimble full.
/r/seduction23/03/24 09:49 AM
2

I seem to be shadow banned on most of them. What? Also, you're in Las Vegas yes? The city in the desert that millions of people pour through for brief periods of extreme debauchery? I think you'll be ok man.
/r/seduction23/03/24 08:08 AM
-2

I come here to learn about the type of man that has a golf ball sized brain but overcame the odds and made it to adulthood while not comprehending that women are individual people and also somehow not drinking a lethal amount of bleach.
/r/seduction23/03/24 07:37 AM
4

Did you hear that boys? Be needy. Women love it. Don't play on hard mode like this maverick.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:48 AM
9

Well, I tried. Good luck moving forward.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:40 AM
10

You need to acknowledge the possibility that aspects of your personality are repellent to women and put work in to discover what aspects they are and then remedy them.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:37 AM
11

Your 'good interaction' wasn't as good as you think it was.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:35 AM
7

Because you said or did something that made her think 'wow, this guy is a penis' so she changed her mind about you.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:30 AM
59

I'm starting to see what those girls are seeing. You need to humble yourself quickly. You are in serious danger of disappearing up your own ass.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:29 AM
55

When women all of a sudden put their guards up, you said or did something they did not like. I've never heard of a woman getting defensive because a guy was just too perfect.
/r/seduction23/03/24 12:23 AM
87

You're going to want to consider therapy OP, seriously. I'm not a shrink but when you're not even allowed in your own fantasies I'm pretty sure that points towards a genuinely frightening lack of self respect. Or else you could just have a fetish for that shit. That's allowed too.
/r/seduction22/03/24 10:23 PM
6

Oh you mean dating normally? What happens is you go on a date or two and get to know each other over a period of a few hours. Once you are comfortable with each other and have spoken enough that you feel you can both make an informed decision about whether to continue dating, you compare notes. If it's a thumbs up both ways, you kiss. Once kissing someone is normalised, you don't really have to worry about physical contact.
/r/seduction22/03/24 02:54 PM
8

So a woman is out having a lot of fun drinking and dancing with her friends and you want to take her aside and ask how she's doing? I'm not saying it won't work, shit, it might, but I think you know the odds are against you and that's the reason why you're struggling to say hello. Nobody wants to be taken out of a nightclub and into a job interview. For best results, I find it most effective to organically meet people as a byproduct of fun you're already having and stuff you're already doing.
/r/seduction22/03/24 02:25 PM
9

Propaganda is fascinating and exhausting. None of it makes sense rationally, but it speaks very clearly on an emotional level. I am getting a little worried though. Back before the red pill was pickup artist stuff, and it was misogynistic and weird and wrong, but it lacked the victim mentality that features prominently in modern red pill philosophy. The way the concept of growing as a person is demonised I consider to be downright antithetical to living. To live is to grow and change. Folding yo…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 02:06 PM
1

Doesn't matter where you start. Pick any aspect of your life, or any activity, start working. If you don't know what's wrong, change anything.
/r/seduction22/03/24 11:43 AM
1

As a general rule, if you think a date went really well and she ghosts (or apparently becomes openly hostile in your case) then I try and encourage dudes to think about the date with a critical eye. Because there is a 99.9% chance that the guy said or did something that the girl did not feel at all but he didn't pick up on her reaction (which can be really subtle - women have a good poker face). If you're able to identify what put them off, it's much easier to adjust in a productive way. If you'…
/r/seduction22/03/24 11:01 AM
1

Lowkey think they sent some shots towards me on social media Whoa. What the hell dude. I've had dates that haven't panned out but I've never had a woman become hostile towards me for not quite being her cup of tea and sending shots towards me publicly. What's going on with this?
/r/seduction22/03/24 10:48 AM
1

How did this go on the dates you've had? Did you have the opportunity to display these characteristics?
/r/seduction22/03/24 10:43 AM
1

It's nice that you're above average to look at. That will get you over the immediate hurdle for most girls. As you have been finding out though, it's not enough to sustain interest into an intimate relationship. So basically, what qualities do you have that you think a girl would like to be around for any length of time?
/r/seduction22/03/24 10:37 AM
16

That's fine. You don't have to be in a relationship. So if you don't want to be in one, you don't have to be in one. If you do want to be that type of person, you can change.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 09:21 AM
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Dude, first of all, you're 32. Please drop this framing device in future. And sure, the psychology is she's in a relationship with kids, and so are you. It is normal to be unsure how to move forward when 2 entire families will be radically affected by continuing that behaviour with you. My advice would be to initiate separation proceedings with your partner, and then start dating women who are not in a committed relationship. Good luck.
/r/seduction22/03/24 05:49 AM
13

I just couldnt find anyone better than her, someone as graceful as her You do not know this person. Like, at all. You didn't even know if she liked you as a potential romantic partner when you asked her out. When you start having these weird, outsized feelings towards someone, it makes every interaction you have with them feel really fucking weird from her perspective. When you're not famous and you have a fan, it feels wrong.
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:21 PM
2

I didn’t text her very much during that week and I thought it’d make her curious as to why I wasn’t contacting her. A better way to avoid coming off as needy is to just not be needy. That way you are free to text as much as you feel like and in all likelihood won't give any woman the impression that you don't care about her when the opposite is true.
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:06 PM
7

Good idea man. It's a really bad idea to start learning how to socialise by trying to seduce strange women. Much more effective to lower the stakes. When you have social interactions where you aren't in fight or flight mode, you realise you can think, and that you can watch how she reacts to the things you do and say, and just generally pick up on stuff that's important for getting better at socialising.
/r/seduction20/03/24 12:28 PM
2

It's a complex. Inadequacy amplified by childhood bullying and trauma. He probably knows deep down he is not actually worth less than other men just because of what shelf he can reach unassisted. But these things aren't rational. He may need you to make sacrifices for the interim while you guys start talking about and tackling this issue as a couple.
/r/ExRedPill20/03/24 04:10 AM
3

My advice would be to go to a wide variety of clubs playing a wide variety of music and if a certain style of music grabs you start integrating into that scene. Having a genuine appreciation for the music playing is another very good thing to have in common with a girl.
/r/seduction20/03/24 03:17 AM
69

Damn it. I thought someone just came up with a really fucking unique approach to seduction.
/r/seduction20/03/24 03:02 AM
4

You're going to run into a lot of roadblocks if you approach this like that. Communicating with women is easiest when you have something in common. When you are going there by yourself, sober, specifically to pick up, and you don't give a shit about the music you're just here because you reckon that's where the bitches who put out are at; you are making sure you are always a conspicuous outsider. Don't let that stop you, just getting out at all means you're in with half a chance. But consider th…
/r/seduction20/03/24 02:54 AM
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I heard sometimes women go home with other women and with nary a dick between them still have really good and fulfilling sex. So, maybe nearly not at all, I guess.
/r/seduction20/03/24 02:30 AM
2

I suggest you don't try and pick up anyone in this setting for a while. Having an explicit rule like this: since it's a sort of a taboo to "harass & make someone else uncomfortable" especially if it's a male female dynamic. Is a massive warning sign for guys who don't have much experience. If you are not absolutely sure that you can flirt with a woman while keeping it 100% kosher and respectful, I'd advise you to just not try and pick up women there, and enjoy the friendship.
/r/seduction20/03/24 02:27 AM
1

There's no need to stop talking to her. Just stop asking her out on dates. In fact I'd encourage that you keep talking with her. Some women make for insanely valuable friends. Some are just fun to shoot the breeze with.
/r/seduction20/03/24 01:47 AM
2

For future reference, accept one cancellation as long as she is enthusiastic about rescheduling, otherwise assume she is not interested. It is wild to me that you'd experience this: I asked her on a date and got everything sorted out a nice restaurant etc which was a Sunday but she had to cancel because she had to move and find a place and couldn’t find one before getting evicted from her old place but also she was going to be abroad for that week so couldn’t reschedule after that week I asked a…
/r/seduction20/03/24 01:40 AM
1

Sure thing normal dude.
/r/seduction20/03/24 01:13 AM
1

Listen I have enough weirdos following me around threads posting their banal thoughts on the end. If you're going to continue posting worthless shit I will have to block you. You can let me know by replying with more worthless shit or only replying when you have something to say. Please and thanks.
/r/seduction20/03/24 12:37 AM
16

This is what happens to your brain when your interpersonal relationship skills practice is 100% researched online and 0% talking to actual women.
/r/seduction19/03/24 11:55 PM
9

Reasonable worries. The whole process of becoming close with other people means giving them the tools to hurt you. It's why friendships and relationships are so precious. You give someone everything they need to hurt you and instead they love and support you. The trick is to be judicious with who you trust. And that trust is built over time. I stopped being hurt by people when I started trusting only those who have earned it.
/r/seduction19/03/24 11:51 PM
22

Not going to lie man there doesn't seem to be much there that a woman isn't going to find just as easily through normal socialising. Think of it like if you're going to handicap yourself by not building maintaining a social network, it helps to have one pretty unique trait that more than makes up for it. Good luck.
/r/seduction19/03/24 11:39 PM
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I’m not looking for anything serious, just girls I can go out with and have a good time and hit up when I’m bored. What attractive attribute of yours are you trying to leverage to get these women? These women exist, but most of them are at those places you don't go to enjoying friendships you don't have. Why would they choose to hang out with you rather than the sociable dudes?
/r/seduction19/03/24 11:28 PM
1

Look how fucking stupid you have to assume the readers of this sub would have to be in order for you to make a response. Mia culpa, I have not invented a way to see into the future you fucking moron. You only screen for things it's possible to screen for.
/r/seduction19/03/24 06:57 PM
2

Because eye contact can be interpreted in ways people don't want. It's very normal for strangers.
/r/seduction19/03/24 06:44 PM
0

You have a responsibility to tell her about your feelings shifting or to stop crushing on her. You are not being a friend to her when you're constantly thinking about your dick. Either bury your feelings until she is better, or tell her about your feelings and then don't be weird if she says no and there will be no problem.
/r/seduction19/03/24 06:13 PM
4

You should probably stop doing things that are causing your anxiety to spike high enough for it to qualify as a type of paralysis. You are not in any way prepared to walk up to women out of the blue and be obviously interested. That's ok. You just need to build up the fundamentals. Start socialising in situations where there are no stakes to the interaction. Just talk to normal people. Get good at that first.
/r/seduction19/03/24 06:12 PM
0

You'll be happy to know that it seems to be services aimed exclusively at men for use by men to help men. Because apparently a robot is a genuine step up compared to some men's natural inclinations. So yeah don't worry yourself.
/r/seduction19/03/24 05:49 PM
8

Hate is so much effort. Mistreatment should absolutely leave you wary of men. That's a reasonable reaction and precaution to take, because it will help keep you safe. Hate though? Does that keep you safe? Is it anything other than a waste of your time and energy? Regardless, it's your decision, good luck.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/24 05:38 PM
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I get the feeling that Its only at the moment one lives together with the Girl that these things surface which is too late IMO. This is absolutely insane. You should know absolutely everything about them and your compatibility by the time your furniture collides. Living with someone is literally just a final checklist: This, forever. You sure? You should be able to screen out even the best liars and manipulators within 2 months of casually dating if you keep your eyes open. Living a lie is very,…
/r/seduction19/03/24 05:22 PM
-2

What are you talking about 'winning' for? I'm directly calling out your behaviours and critiquing them because I think they are embarrassing, ineffective, and wrong. I'm not trying to win anything I'm just asking why you're giving the advice you give. Which should be really easy if this is a position you've thought through using critical thinking and not just regurgitating because you read it somewhere and it sounded right to you.
/r/seduction19/03/24 03:45 AM
0

I'm sad for you man and anyone else who lives in fear of saying whatup to the person they like because of what they might think. Just think about that. You trying to talk to them being assessed negatively.
/r/seduction19/03/24 03:25 AM
1

In my experience, the more a girl knows about me, the more she looks forward to that date. If for any reason your experience has taught you the opposite, maybe the answer you seek is 'become a better person to interact with'.
/r/seduction19/03/24 03:19 AM
-3

Are you scared that the more you say to women the less appealing you become? Why this hysterical aversion to text?
/r/seduction19/03/24 03:07 AM
-2

Yeah nice semantic comeback weirdo do you have an actual rebuttal or is that it?
/r/seduction19/03/24 03:03 AM
-1

No texting? With someone I like? I'm not advocating good morning / night texts like you're already dating, but if I'm dating a woman I'm keen to get to know her, and I want to know that goes both ways and text is a really effortless way to do that. Why you'd just set a no text limit for yourself is insane to me.
/r/seduction19/03/24 03:01 AM
2

Just ask her out man. If you keep trying to feel her up and do other weird shit that hasn't featured in your relationship to this point you're going to freak her out. She already has enough information about you to know if she wants to date you. Ask her. Asking will only affect your friendship if you start being weird if she turns you down. If you can accept whatever answer she gives, it's not a realistic worry.
/r/seduction19/03/24 02:31 AM
3

What the fuck are you talking about my man? It was YOU in this scenario that hurt others. Saying that they, and society, have to forgive you OR ELSE is coward shit, not how the world works. If you thought about how the person you hurt may have felt, perhaps you wouldn't have done the shit that got you outcast in the first place huh?
/r/ExRedPill19/03/24 12:43 AM
3

I just find building and maintaining a social circle too time consuming and cold approach to be way more time efficient. This is insane to me. Not just because the exact opposite has provided me with infinite relationship opportunities with 90% of the hard work of dating done automatically for me by others, but because hanging out with friends fucking rules and is a big part of the best times of my life. I don't have any advice for you man other than I hope you find what makes you happy.
/r/seduction19/03/24 12:15 AM
9

I see very few people living in fear. I see an awful lot of not living. If you are not regularly getting outside of your comfort zone and developing in all major aspects of your life, you are not living. That's called 'existing'. And it's these people that lead a life of existence that come in to places like this and ask around to see if anyone has a magic spell they can say and then women will want to fuck them.
/r/seduction18/03/24 11:45 PM
3

Oh no! The consequences of my actions!
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 10:57 PM
2

What? I'm saying how fucking rad your 30s and 40s are because you struggled in your 20s. The literal opposite of my meaning.
/r/seduction18/03/24 10:57 PM
1

It had been like 20 years since I rode a bike so when I was recently required to I tried to climb on from under the pedals.
/r/seduction18/03/24 08:36 AM
-1

It is nice. Like all things that work really well it requires a fair amount of time investment but I think it's more than fair considering the bang for the buck. Cultivate and maintain a variety of friendships that cover a variety of social activities.
/r/seduction18/03/24 07:39 AM
4

This is another ridiculous trope that I've seen pop up over the last month or so: a wizard stole my ability to socialise. I was reading about the experiences of some of the last prisoners to be kept in solitary confinement in my country for time periods greater than a year. They suffered horribly with social anxiety after the torture, but their ability to socialise didn't evaporate.
/r/seduction18/03/24 06:28 AM
-4

Personally everything in my life is already set up. The way I live life normally means new people always enter my life so I don't need to approach women. I just ask some of the women out if I vibe with them and am dating. That age range limit is a very weird question. If you're in your 30s and 40s and you don't know what's appropriate for you, oh dear. Basically, the hard part is done. This is the time in life where you reap what you have sewn. Hope you did a lot of rad and forward thinking shit…
/r/seduction18/03/24 06:19 AM
10

Yep. Actions have consequences. Scary huh? You can't just say sorry sometimes. Sometimes, the shit you do is so heinous you have to apologise, live the rest of your life an example to the opposite of your previous self, and die unforgiven. This shouldn't matter if you changed for the right reasons. If you just changed so people would like you, you haven't changed.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 06:14 AM
23

That's not being bad with girls man. That is just straight up being an asshole. It is a personal policy of mine not to hurt anyone unless it's in defence of myself or in defence of the safety of others. But I do have to actually wait until Someone is attacked before I can respond. Just hurting a girl because situations like the one with her have caused you hurt and confusion in the past.... It's gross man. I want to hurl whoever permanently bound 'flirting' with 'being mean to people in a way yo…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 09:25 AM
3

Yeah it could be and probably is just a cultural disconnect.
/r/seduction16/03/24 11:37 PM
-9

Cool angry opinion that differs from mine.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:46 PM
5

Yeah I basically spent 15 years in nightclubs. I've spoken with women who are every flavour of completely fucked up. You think I would have at least overheard it or something.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:44 PM
2

Nah I fully agree with everything you just said. I think the human centipede of blog posts serves only to encourage stagnation and irrelevance. I'm fairly sure the community was born because folk thought about and shared stuff with others who in turn thought about it etc. It would be good
/r/TheRedPill16/03/24 10:07 PM
3

not contributing to canon This is actually a very good idea. Make people add something wholly original. Something they've noticed, hypothesised about, tested, thought about in-depth, then shared. Because it is a unique piece of thinking it should generate solid engagement and even if the OP's thinking was a bit off, healthy debate might actually unearth something worth talking about and passing on. The problem I could see with this is that not many people really focus on creating this type of co…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/24 09:56 PM
36

I have noticed at least a few posts a day over the last week or so has contained an OP that describes something like this experience: I’ve had girls tell me I was their type, that they wanna go out and that they love me etc. Women don't usually say this shit like that. They are usually really fucking careful with this type of language because that can easily lead to [drumroll please] confused men making things weird for them where they hang out. Strange. I’ve got attraction, I don't think you do…
/r/seduction16/03/24 09:24 PM
23

No, they don't, it is a very specific lunatic viewpoint shared only by sexless weirdos in weird online cabals. It is not representative of real life, holy shit.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 08:58 PM
1

You don't have enough data I have circa 2 decades of being one of the most absurdly sexually successful people who doesn't work as a full time prostitute or work as a porn star with a significant career to speak of. Before my success I was a socially stunted, undiagnosed autistic guy who graduated high school with no experience with women and one friend. So I also got to go on a real life journey that spanned years figuring out exactly what worked for me. Where does your data come from? How exte…
/r/seduction16/03/24 08:56 PM
2

Please stop trying to re-form his strawman that was still too powerful for him to rebutt. The women are hypothetical. It does not matter.
/r/seduction16/03/24 08:50 PM
1

I disagree with your opinion in the example above. What are you talking about? You were whining about me avoiding your point. What point? However societally it is expected that men will go up and approach a woman if they are interested. Is that so? Weird. For men to listen their sub-conscious is a poor strategy, as they will make excuses to not approach. Unlike you, they don't have abundance. You misunderstand me. My life has an abundance, but that isn't the reason I'm able to differentiate a cl…
/r/seduction16/03/24 07:34 PM
-1

If women aren't having fun in your frame, that is not their fault.
/r/seduction16/03/24 07:12 PM
-2

For example, “Hey” gets a substantially better OLD response than a thoughtful question or a witty remark. This is empircally wrong. It may be your personal experience, which I would believe, but consider that your thoughtful questions / witty remarks aren't quite as interesting as you consider them to be.
/r/seduction16/03/24 07:11 PM
1

What if your sub-conscious tells you from now on, for every day of your life, that you're interrupting them? I'd consider it to not be a functioning warning system and instead classify it as a neurosis. I already covered thinking about that angle in my original reply: I actually started listening to that voice and I found that it wasn't just a perpetual negativity machine So do you actually have a point on this subject that I haven't already addressed several posts ago? I don't understand why yo…
/r/seduction16/03/24 06:52 PM
8

Yeah you do. Whatever you've been doing for the last 28 years, not that. Continuing to do that will result in another 28 years exploding out of existence and you looking somehow even more pathetic saying the same shit you said today just as a balding, sad middle aged guy.
/r/seduction16/03/24 06:38 PM
59

It is incredible that you have the self awareness to post this. Yes, this ideology will fuck up your entire life. It is not a joke. When you start viewing humans in terms of value you are dangerously close to some pretty biblically horrendous shit. Positioning women in the roles of both stock and rival trading firm leaves the board already set up to completely destroy a human psyche. It is all fucking gibberish.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 06:30 PM
30

Stop trying to have fun with women who are not reciprocating and contributing to having fun.
/r/seduction16/03/24 06:25 PM
7

Admiral, if you can't find a way to navigate past this logical failure spiral can you please at least not act surprised when nothing just changes after a certain number of birthdays.
/r/seduction16/03/24 06:25 PM
-1

but you also could be missing out on the love of your life because you didn't go up and say Hi. I assure you, my life could not possibly include another awesome woman at this time. My entire life has been a parade of awesome women. You should not need to make people's day's include an awkward conversation in order to have your life full of women.
/r/seduction16/03/24 05:18 PM
-3

Hey man when I'm in a bar catching up with a mate who I haven't seen in 5 years I would not really enjoy some random asshole interrupting us to talk about shit that doesn't matter. Just because people are in a bar doesn't mean you don't have a responsibility to not be a fucking pest. Sort yourself out you embarrassment.
/r/seduction16/03/24 03:23 PM
5

There should be absolutely nothing complicated about talking to a person and slowly starting to figure out if you're compatible people. It should be treated with the same level of relative complexity and gravitas as you would dedicate to deciding if you want your cash in 20 or 50 dollar notes.
/r/seduction16/03/24 02:58 PM
-22

Please don't reply to anything I ever post again.
/r/seduction16/03/24 11:53 AM
114

You are saying or doing something on dates that makes a wide range of women not want a second one. None of us were there, so we won't have a clue what the problem is, but it definitely involves something that was common to all the dates where this was a problem.
/r/seduction16/03/24 11:40 AM
-18

Been reading long buddy? Read the second sentence of my post, then don't respond to me again because I only want to converse with people capable of parsing simple sentences at an early high school level.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:58 AM
-2

This is interesting, because it differs from how I see these situations significantly. For example, do you think it's possible that 'the flinch' could be caused by a subconscious feeling that it is inappropriate to approach in that context? Both you and the example dismiss this feeling, with the only difference being how proudly ignorant you appear to be to the girl about your ill-timed approach. that successful guys in dating don’t feel this but they do - they just act in spite of it. I don't. …
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:35 AM
8

Good lord. Ok. Do not go out with the intention of winning anyone's heart. That will translate into very weird conscious and subconscious behaviour. The best possible advice I could give is go out with the intention of having a shitload of fun. That's all. Dance, talk, drink, have fun. I mean, you don't even really have to approach a group of girls. The most daunting task is done for you. All you need to do is be cool to hang out with.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:21 AM
17

This is what you need to meditate on OP. 'Settled for' doesn't mean anything. I'm not settling when I don't date a movie star. Well, I technically am, but do you see how fucking stupid the concept is?
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 10:13 AM
5

The only thing about being a 36 year old virgin that I'd consider a loser trait is the fact that you still care.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 07:33 AM
23

You will need to start by identifying why exactly it is that you're becoming attached. For most guys, it's because they are so scared no other woman will ever sleep with them that they glom on to anyone who touches their dick, causing attachment-like behaviours. Once the cause is identified, you need to figure out an approach to modulating those feelings in accordance with sanity and reality instead of letting weird, unexamined fears take the reigns.
/r/seduction16/03/24 07:16 AM
7

Yeah man if you need full time care at home then any girl who dates you has to find out that they're signing up to replace mom and dad as caretakers. That is not an attractive prospect. I'm sorry for your struggles.
/r/seduction16/03/24 05:30 AM
60

I think you know the answer to this. Yes, but you're playing on nightmare difficulty. You should use the opportunity of pretty much mandated celibacy to pour time into growing as a person rather than having relationship after relationship suddenly start going nowhere the second they realise you live at home.
/r/seduction16/03/24 05:14 AM
2

Absolutely flawless presentation on how to get the bouncers to give you a lift to the door.
/r/seduction16/03/24 05:00 AM
1

It is not a compliment, which I think you've guessed because you're trying to look for ways around changing the way you behave. If I was to guess, it would be because they've noticed the radically different ways you treat men and women, and hot women / less hot women.
/r/seduction16/03/24 04:09 AM
2

I think you should be an adult and talk with Bob. Ask his opinion about you taking a run at her. Then do it or don't do it depending on how much you give a fuck about Bob's feelings. If you take a shot, directly ask her out. None of this sort of try and dance with her stuff. If she is interested in you, she obviously doesn't respect the beating about the bush method.
/r/seduction16/03/24 04:04 AM
1

lol if that's the strawman you need to build before you feel my argument is on a level you can fight with, fair enough.
/r/seduction15/03/24 04:09 PM
0

No. There are no experts. Nobody can do it.
/r/seduction15/03/24 04:04 PM
-3

It's not really debatable man. We've done loads of experiments on this. Body language experts don't exist.
/r/seduction15/03/24 03:49 PM
-4

There is no such thing as 'choosing signals'. Body language reading is utter pseudoscience.
/r/seduction15/03/24 03:10 PM
6

I prefer to just enjoy the conversation. Insane, worthless minutia like this is fucking dudes up. They're thinking about switching on her primal brain instead of just fucking listening and answering with their full attention.
/r/seduction15/03/24 03:05 PM
0

You are fully prepared to accept the emotional diagnoses of the OP's roommate. I think you are taking the furthest leap in logic by far.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 03:03 PM
-3

Maybe not a psychologist, but at least peer-level of emotional intelligence. The OP only thinks those things about his roommate because his roommate succeeded where he failed, and is ascribing negative traits to him in order to feel less bad about being an utter failure.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 01:54 PM
2

Confidence is absolutely not required for dating. I dated for decades before finding confidence for myself. Also, please stop lying like this: I was roommate with someone who was narcissistic, looks down on people, just lacks empathy in general, and he does well with women, despite these negative traits. You are not a psychologist. You aren't even on a level with your peer group. You are not qualified to tell anyone what your room mate's personality traits were.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 01:42 PM
3

Yes. It came to be by not putting sex on a weird pedestal.
/r/seduction15/03/24 01:08 PM
5

Maybe but probably not. Don't read into things.
/r/seduction15/03/24 11:49 AM
21

Yep, if you do not treat maintaining a relationship as a different skillset to getting into one, the relationship will absolutely fail and this truism will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/seduction14/03/24 08:40 PM
1

Yeah I always respond to 3 day old posts that nobody else will see because I'm not personally invested.
/r/seduction14/03/24 10:19 AM
1

Literally everything you took personal offence at was my opinion and experience. I don't know why you felt compelled to take it as a value judgement on yourself, but you should stop doing that because it's weird.
/r/seduction14/03/24 09:17 AM
1

I could. But I think it would be more instructive to ask you what flirting is for? Like, what are you trying to do?
/r/seduction14/03/24 02:34 AM
2

You could always just not do that shit. Personally, I don't flirt like I'm still in primary school because I'm not still in primary school.
/r/seduction13/03/24 10:56 AM
1

lol
/r/seduction12/03/24 06:38 PM
1

Go to therapy.
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:58 PM
1

Oh good, you're a tedious pedant as well. Women love these types of conversations. Can't wait until you can show them your skills.
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:51 PM
0

Maybe speak to a few of them before presuming to make sweeping generalisations huh?
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:33 PM
1

I buy a coffee every morning. When I order the coffee, I say good morning. Super weird huh there mate? Go to the medical profession. You are profoundly incapable of picking up women.
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:32 PM
2

Ok then yes if you are not in situations every day where saying good morning is not weird then you don't need to be asking how to pick up women. You need to be in a psychiatrist's office, addressing your massive, massive untreated anxiety disorder
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:10 PM
0

Why don't you just start with saying 'good morning' to women regularly?
/r/seduction12/03/24 04:53 PM
1

Women can chit chat and gossip but getting them to just shoot the breeze like two people In this sentence, you literally don't consider women to be people. Now, I'm sure it was a mistake, but hypothetically, if that's just the way you think, then it should be absolutely no surprise to you when you're unsuccessful.
/r/seduction12/03/24 03:44 PM
13

By the sounds of it, you're missing friends dude.
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:18 AM
1

Do you think maybe giving them zero notice for a date and expecting them to drop everything and go and have coffee with you right that second is really weird?
/r/seduction12/03/24 08:27 AM
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You don't leverage your friends dude. That's weird. You form genuine friendships with them. And it doesn't matter if most of your friends are men. I served in the military. To say my friendship group was 'mostly male' would be an understatement. But every single one of those male friends knows people, so you know also know those people by proxy. The more friends you have, the more friends they have, the more people you know by default. Some of them will be women. Or just going out with your bros…
/r/seduction12/03/24 08:10 AM
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I don't believe you have friends. Because people who have friends don't care specifically about their results when cold approaching and OLD, the two types of dating most relevant to people with no friends.
/r/seduction12/03/24 07:52 AM
-1

I don't believe you. But ok.
/r/seduction12/03/24 07:49 AM
4

You are hyper-fixating on two 'facts': how ugly you think you are, how many women you're not pulling. They reinforce each other in the world's stupidest cyclical event making both a self-fulfilling prophecy. I suggest you work on becoming the type of person that people want to be around. You don't need to be good looking to be good to hang out with. Having actual friends who like you and make you feel important will help conquer the stupidity of your current fixations.
/r/seduction12/03/24 07:43 AM
2

I think you should respect what she has told you very clearly, or stay away from her. You sound like a budding sex criminal.
/r/seduction12/03/24 06:54 AM
1

Sometimes. Through socialising mostly.
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:53 AM
1

Ask them out.
/r/seduction12/03/24 05:52 AM
2

but you keep doing you. Thanks man I will
/r/seduction11/03/24 06:49 PM
1

You are wrong.
/r/seduction11/03/24 06:48 PM
3

lol yeah I don't love people saying I have the mentality of a child either.
/r/seduction11/03/24 06:17 PM
0

Yes you do. Social skills are developed from the ground up. You need to be competent at being an acquaintance with people for a little while before they're ready to go to some of the most complex interpersonal relationships we have as humans.
/r/seduction11/03/24 06:15 PM
3

Agreed. In future though, don't ask questions you don't want answers to.
/r/seduction11/03/24 06:08 PM
7

A lot of you need to accept that Men and Women can't be friends This is fucking stupid dog shit that is not true and will never be true. It's the mentality of a child. Women are people, and just as valuable as friends if not more so in some ways than friends of the same gender. Don't limit some of the best experiences life has to offer by being an immature douchebag for your entire life.
/r/seduction11/03/24 06:01 PM
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Why the fuck are you flirting with someone you're friends with lol. She knows everything about you right this second to make an informed decision about whether or not to date you. You do not need to start isolating her one on one and start feeling her up or whatever unless you don't think she understands quite how massive a sex criminal you are yet. You should have respected her decision the first time.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:59 PM
20

I hope this is real because if you're making this up I'd die of second hand embarrassment.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:54 PM
0

I think approach anxiety comes from the fact that they've started a conversation with someone who is busy because their dick felt funny when he looked at them and they can't be honest about it so they freeze. I also think that nobody on earth would struggle learning small talk. Literal, actual 5 year old children can do that.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:42 PM
1

That's fine. Everybody starts somewhere. I'm suggesting literally starting at 'good morning'. If they're not quite up to that, they should be on a disability pension and being supported professionally.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:31 PM
3

Lol that stung you didn't it? Don't worry man. My personal experiences and reasons for believing what I do were clearly labelled as such. So don't go feeling all bad k?
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:23 PM
5

You know those scammers on the streets of busy cities usually near tourist spots that try and stop you and extract money from you? You know all those really nice, pleasant thoughts you have about people who stop you from doing what you're doing because they've decided they want something from you? I personally just find it easier to pick up women without those very nice thoughts in their head about me.
/r/seduction11/03/24 02:04 PM
1

I would say that's a major disagreement and not just me quibbling over words and definitions. lol
/r/seduction11/03/24 11:10 AM
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Next time you wonder why no women like you, consider it's because you are a tedious fucking pedant who is wrong about everything and nobody likes.
/r/seduction11/03/24 10:53 AM
7

i feel i am too intimidating to women Have you been told this by a woman? I have. My current partner. I asked her what her first impression of me was and she said something along the lines of 'fucking terrifying'. I am a scary looking dude. It's one of the reasons that cold approaching simply would not work for me even if it wasn't the absolute worst way to pick up women on earth. Women simply should not be expected to trust someone who looks like me in the amount of time a conversation where I …
/r/seduction11/03/24 10:51 AM
0

No. Shit, sometimes a girl will fuck you if she's bored.
/r/seduction11/03/24 10:42 AM
11

Agreed. Never implied it was. He would just be an absolute cunt to do that. If he's fine with that he should go right ahead. You too big man. It's really cool in fact to fuck with people's friendships. Normal too. Fucking weirdo.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:42 AM
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The advice I need is how to convince this girl that her friend isn't going or get mad at her if we hook up. That's hard because you are not that girl, you don't really know her, and you have absolutely no idea that she won't be mad. So you won't convince her of anything. Should I try to be more friendly with the girl that likes me so she get jealous. Yeah man go right ahead with trying to fuck with other people's friendships very not a psychopath behaviour. Is their better way to go about it Yea…
/r/seduction11/03/24 02:43 AM
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I'd estimate that 99.9% of the women I don't know that I speak to don't find me attractive and nothing further comes from our communication except we've gone from strangers to acquaintances. That's normal. I've also had more sex with more partners than a lifetime should ever include. Because if you're sociable enough, .1% of 4 billion is still extremely high. Also, 'seducing' is a fucking stupid concept for 2024. It was fine to describe casual sex in the fucking 1500s, but you don't need to 'sed…
/r/seduction11/03/24 12:21 AM
0

I conquered approach anxiety by only talking to women when I have something to say to them. Just by doing a quick role reversal, if I was doing anything other than absolutely nothing, how tolerant would I be of someone stopping me and wanting to talk about how his dick feels about me in a round-about way, and the answer was: I'd tell the person to fuck off. Then I tried to imagine when a woman might want to entertain that shit, and only talked to people I didn't know in those situations. Done. A…
/r/seduction10/03/24 11:15 PM
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I go out with friends on the weekend and meet tons of women just through having an active social life. I don't have 'getting women' time, I have hanging out time where I meet women incidental to hanging out.
/r/seduction10/03/24 11:07 PM
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You know how you talk to dudes with no problem? Think about the things you say, and how / when you say it to men, then apply to women. Stop reading about women from internet losers, and start saying good morning to some real people.
/r/seduction10/03/24 11:05 PM
1

This is stupid, bad advice. Trust is built gradually and earned. Do you want to know how many girls I trusted fully (4, so far) betrayed me? Zero. Because in years I had never seen or suspected that they were anything other than honest people. The trick to not getting hurt like Mr Don't Trust Anyone here is to not trust people who haven't thoroughly earned it.
/r/seduction10/03/24 11:02 PM
1

You are not evil. You also have not accomplished anything. You are also terminally boring, quick to whine and blame, and accept responsibility for nothing.
/r/seduction10/03/24 05:47 AM
1

How could I say or what I should do to tell her I need to get turned on too rather than be ready on command? My dude, you literally just wrote out that you did. She didn't give a fuck. Now, this relationship is worth more to you than your dignity, or else you would have fired this shit out the airlock the second she pointed at herself. Get right with your lack of dignity, we can't echo chamber it back to life.
/r/seduction09/03/24 06:10 PM
2

I haven't been rejected in nearly 20 years. Want to know the secret? Learned to read non verbal communication and adhered to the social contract as it was applicable to the situation at the time. That's all. If your approach is rejected, it's because you have transgressed the social contract. Pick up guys will say it's because you didn't get 'IOIs', but IOI's have never been required for me to get chatting to a person. As long as it's socially appropriate to say what you said, congratulations, y…
/r/seduction09/03/24 06:02 PM
1

It really doesn't have basis in science. Nothing about humans does besides our physical anatomy. lol. Hates women and academia. Nothing happened for me until I started displaying opposing traits of the girl I'm talking to, then it was consistent successes. Not a coincidence. Ok, personally, I've found that close to 100% of all human beings don't like being made to feel like shit literally all the time. I guess it's not impossible that all of the massive outliers converged on your 'commune'.
/r/seduction09/03/24 02:04 PM
1

They are physically and mentally aroused by the direct opposite behavioral traits and concepts that men like about women. it's not logical and at the same time it is. Common poles repel, opposing poles attract. This has literally no basis in science. This is only thought of as fact by pickup weirdos. A normal theory would go along the lines of 'in order to secure an object to abuse, abusers find they need to become highly skilled social actors in order to deceive and constantly manipulate the ab…
/r/seduction09/03/24 11:59 AM
1

Yeah man people will, just so you're aware. I used to speak like a wanker. Then a very good friend took me aside and gave me the heads up. Thought I'd extend the same courtesy.
/r/seduction09/03/24 11:19 AM
3

Basically nobody is good at dancing. It's just something drunk humans really like to do. I'd say like 2.5% are good at dancing, 95% are bad at dancing, and another 2.5% are spectacularly bad at dancing which wraps all the way back around to good dancing because it is amazing to watch. If you can't dance, you're either 'fine' or 'amazingly bad'. Neither of which are negative. When a girl approaches you dancing, eye contact is where it's at, just smile like you actually want to dance with her. Tha…
/r/seduction09/03/24 09:36 AM
1

It's better to speak to your audience. A lot of people would classify that as 'talking like a wanker'.
/r/seduction09/03/24 09:17 AM
1

Of course it was constructive. It's why you had to put the 'much' in that sentence. You're just hyper-fixating on the uncouth language because your feelings are extremely hurt.
/r/seduction09/03/24 07:26 AM
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while not giving much real practical advice. lol I bet it killed you to put that 'much' in. Yeah if you want to be a rules lawyer report my post dude, I'll eat the ban, it's fine. It was worth it to explicitly tell you how you look to others when voicing your 'concerns'.
/r/seduction09/03/24 07:16 AM
2

You've actually done a lot of work on part one, and that's introspection and identification of aspects of your personality that need to change. That's the hardest part too. What you need help with is responsibility. For example this: I have anger issues that sometimes get out of control. would be absolutely unacceptable to me. If I experienced a loss of control that potentially puts myself and anyone around me at risk, I am a dangerous person. Until I sorted that out I would avoid the company of…
/r/seduction09/03/24 07:12 AM
-1

Describing objective, studied, measured reality is not a social justice rant. Grow the fuck up you giant baby.
/r/seduction09/03/24 06:42 AM
-1

Alright so the differences between OLD and clubs should pretty much pop right out at you if you think about it for even a second. On OLD, women have the safety of interacting through a screen. That's gone in clubs. It is quite literally impossible to find a girl that is alone at a college bar/club Yeah, because it's fucking dangerous behaviour as a woman to go to a bar and be conspicuously single. If she wanted attention from single men, there is zero reason to not do it through the safety the i…
/r/seduction09/03/24 02:58 AM
2

I’m like uselessly waiting around for girls to start conversations with me like an idiot. Serious question, why aren't you having fun? The many, many nights out where I ended up going home alone I was never depressed or confused or angry, because I had a really sick night with my friends.
/r/seduction09/03/24 02:38 AM
4

Question is, how can I completely throw away the nice guy complex You've already done it. You have one of the most repellent attitudes I've seen recently. As for helping you get closer to women, no.
/r/seduction09/03/24 02:33 AM
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Ha it's one of those memes that is so old it's actually new and amusing to some. Also, you have a sense of humour, that's something. I value that, make sure you do too. If you're going to kick your own ass real hard, the least you can do is give yourself props when appropriate.
/r/seduction08/03/24 09:53 AM
17

Ancient, mostly forgotten magicks.
/r/seduction08/03/24 09:49 AM
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Dude, not being able to approach women shouldn't be in the top 100 things you should be focussing on right now. Sure, there's going to be some women who found Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh hot but they're probably not in night clubs. Become someone who can ask for dating advice without several sentences of self loathing, then we can talk dating.
/r/seduction08/03/24 09:41 AM
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I'm not done yet, the valuable shit is still yet to happen lol. Nah my life has been interesting and varied which means there is basically no common or uncommon social climate that bothers me. And the problems I've already endured and survived make a woman saying 'no' to me asking her on a date not even rank as hurtful or even a shame.
/r/seduction08/03/24 02:55 AM
7

Alright to give you some idea. I first started learning how to fight at 14 in order to deal with an abusive step dad. I was my family's guardian from young. As soon as I turned 18 I bought a one-way ticket to the other side of the earth with $70 and a small suitcase of belongings. I lived and worked inside and outside the law, was homeless, and went to prison all before I was 20. When I got out I was a bouncer at the most dangerous places in my area, and after being thrown off a balcony and narr…
/r/seduction08/03/24 02:16 AM
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Ask him about it. Be direct. Because he either doesn't subscribe to their bullshit but follows it for comedy purposes, or he wishes he could subscribe to their bullshit, but he's too much of a coward. Directly asking him should clear that up, then you can react appropriately.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/24 02:08 AM
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I honestly don't know what that would look like for you man. I only know what it looks like for me, and doing an imitation of my experiences would stop you from ever reaching the level I mentioned, because you'll only ever be an imitation. The best advice I can give is live a life that makes for an amazing story, or just learn to dance. Way easier to dance.
/r/seduction08/03/24 02:05 AM
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I guess the easiest way would be to become one of the best dancers in your area and hit up clubs a lot. So the easiest way takes hundreds or thousands of hours of physical practice lol. You can also become an extremely interesting and charismatic person, but to do that you have to understand that there is a personality component to attraction, and you can dial that up so high that even a big, fat, scary looking motherfucker like me can have women chase him. Then you have to actually develop that…
/r/seduction08/03/24 02:00 AM
2

Yep. Just have a few hundred of those conversations and you'll be fine. Just enjoy the ride man. It gets smoother.
/r/seduction08/03/24 01:20 AM
3

Whatever is causing you to fail with dating apps will follow you literally everywhere else. You would be much better off critically assessing your experiences so far and start improving the areas you detect a lack in. There is no cheat code, technique, or shortcuts to this unfortunately.
/r/seduction08/03/24 01:07 AM
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How do I come up with something on spot? You have so many of those types of conversations that eventually it comes naturally. Sometimes my brain is also blank when they say something, how do I declutter the voidness and always have something to say? Why is your brain blank? If they are so boring you can't remember what they just said, I wouldn't worry about having something to say because the relationship just isn't going to work.
/r/seduction08/03/24 01:00 AM
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I don't think women would want to go on a Coffee date in NYC. You are wrong. How am I supposed to compete with that? You are literally already doing it. She is dating you despite the cruise boat date, and you are looking at him like he won.
/r/seduction08/03/24 12:26 AM
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How can I know if they're enjoying the date or they're here just for free food & drinks? Well, for starters, stop going on first dates that will cost you $120. Try coffee. My question is, what makes a date GREAT When you have a genuine connection with each other. Is there a way to gauge their interest towards me? Yes. Ask yourself 2 questions: Am I having fun talking to this person? Does it look like she's having fun talking to me? If the coffee goes well, ask her on a second date.
/r/seduction07/03/24 11:42 PM
0

No, my counter argument was that all that handsy negging shit is embarrassing and no sane human would behave like that and still maintain self respect; also it is absolutely not needed to be absurdly successful on dates. What I wrote for you there was in answer to your follow up question. I don't usually write counter arguments to questions unlike some weirdos that will remain nameless.
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:58 PM
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I love how people like you think they are platitudes. But ok, I'll try. how you specifically prefer to spark emotion on dates. I literally do not try. Connections happen or they don't. When on a date, I am almost aggressively authentic. The only thing I'm trying to show her is what she will be hanging around with 95% of the time. No bells, no whistles, no cool negs to spark emotion. I have no interest in a person that has no interest in me as I am. I dislike wasting time. e: The OP blocked me li…
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:45 PM
0

Hmm. That's an interesting way of looking at things with your comparison of flirting to a fairground ride. I guess my main objection is that it doesn't grapple with the simple fact that conversations are two-way. There is someone else with as much say in how the ride gets built as you, and she might like rapid fire loops and corkscrews. Or she might prefer the slowly spinning tea cups. 'Boring' is subjective, and the only person whose opinion matters on your date is that of your date's. One pers…
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:40 PM
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workplace sexual harassment laws are insanely anti-men, so don't wanna risk my job. .... Looking for book suggestions to to learn manipulation [...] Women in my office are insanely hot Consider reconsidering this entire stupid plan.
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:28 PM
1

First of all, if you forget about your friends, something is wrong with you. Mostly though I'm just kind of weirded out the way 'friend' is used sort of as a pejorative. Being friends with people is cool. And by all means, be shitty in a sarcastic way for your dates if it works for you. But if anyone else is like me and you think being rude to people is bad, and you're not comfortable feeling up people in public without their consent within minutes of having met, I can assure you that not doing …
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:21 PM
6

I really don't think it's pretending to misunderstand a holiday destination recommendation every once and a while is what is standing between a person who would be classified as 'boring' and one who isn't. Am I missing some part of your advice?
/r/seduction07/03/24 05:05 PM
0

Well, I'm glad you feel you got something out of it. Thanks.
/r/seduction07/03/24 04:37 PM
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Not only that but the people in question, especially Hamza, are now regularly having what I would call psychotic breakdowns on camera. There are people in psychiatric facilities that are more tethered to reality than a frankly troubling amount of people in pick up communities and all incels. Mental illness is unironically a massive problem and a massive part of why these men are struggling in the first place. Unfortunately, the cure for mental illness is to accept certain facts like that they ar…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/24 04:14 PM
1

What was your cliff's notes for it? What made it valuable to you?
/r/seduction07/03/24 04:04 PM
5

Men can outnumber women on OLD apps by as much as 4 or 5:1. It's really important to keep this information in your head as it points to how to best use online dating in a way that actually gets results. Your pictures matter more than just about everything else on your profile combined. However I do not recommend you get professional photos taken unless the alternative is literally 3 selfies of you in your computer chair because they have slightly weird, sterile vibes; which is really bad when wo…
/r/seduction07/03/24 01:45 PM
5

Put the glasses in an envelope or something and put it in your mail box. Text her once with the information of where she can pick up the glasses. Forget about her and move on.
/r/seduction07/03/24 07:48 AM
8

I remember when 'influencers' in the 00's said 'literally' so incorrectly and so much that the definition literally expanded to include the wrong definition in dictionaries. That is looking like it's going to happen with the term 'average'. From the Wiki (haven't personally read any of it): Recommended reading: How to Be a 3% man by Corey Wayne No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Rober Glover Models by Mark Manson the Book of Pook The Manual By W Anton The Way of the Superior Man - David Dieda
/r/seduction07/03/24 07:30 AM
2

lol. Let it never be said I can't seriously kick an ass over the internet. Thanks. It's something I take a perverse pride in. I don't usually get much positive reinforcement, so I checked your history. Last year, I started doing a little work on my passion project - teaching social skills, especially to men who are struggling with dating. For real? We might be in the same boat. I'm pleased to hear someone else out there is giving it a go. More likelihood that it'll reach people.
/r/seduction07/03/24 07:08 AM
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An aspect of psychological work people trying to get over phobias do is something called 'exposure therapy'. It is what it sounds like. There's two types, 'incremental', and 'flooding'. Incremental became the dominant treatment over flooding because while flooding did cure some people, it also made some people way, way worse. I'd consider cold approaching to be analogous to 'flooding' exposure therapy. I advocate for incremental steps towards social competence. There is absolutely no requirement…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/24 11:11 PM
24

God damn I swear a lot of guys would improve drastically if they'd just stop conflating entirely different topics. Like good looking and attractive, or intimate and sexual. Asking if she has any siblings is an intimate question. It would be wildly inappropriate for a stranger to ask if she has siblings, so if you're in a position where it's acceptable to ask that, you are gradually increasing intimacy. Escalation is just getting to know someone in gradual, socially appropriate steps. Don't over-…
/r/seduction06/03/24 10:48 PM
0

You don't have arguments. You have a limp dicked petulant tantrum in the general direction of women. In case the description didn't make it clear, I feel no need to argue against that. It's self evidently pathetic.
/r/seduction06/03/24 10:19 AM
-1

It is honestly sickening how you can sit there and with a straight face state that what you are doing is just 'speaking your mind'. You are a fucking spoiled, entitled, weak, utter failure of an adult. YOU ARE AN ADULT. HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT.
/r/seduction06/03/24 10:11 AM
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Relationships are hard work. Sorry, relationships that work out are hard work. Somewhere between a part and full time job in terms of hours per week needs to be spent with your partner actively developing the relationship or working towards relationship goals independently. Chill way the fuck out. The more at ease you are with everything, the more attractive you are. That doesn't mean you can't disagree or rock the boat, in fact, the advice goes triple on occasions where conflict exists. Being t…
/r/seduction06/03/24 09:39 AM
1

Jesus. I don't know what they paid but with a sales funnel that huge it's got to be way too much.
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:42 AM
7

I do, but not because the fragrances are necessarily the best smelling fragrances on earth, but because the fragrance belongs to me. Smell is a powerful memory stimulant. If every time she smells that fragrance she feels relaxed and safe, it's the best smell in the world.
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:40 AM
3

Yeah just had a look. I'm sure they do get laid, but in my humble opinion their beginner advice is worthless. I would strongly discourage anyone from paying for that sort of help.
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:38 AM
5

I have literally never seen or heard of any advice or strategy that is actually worth money.
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:23 AM
3

Good question. Some dudes look at statistics and try and figure out what women in general are most likely to find attractive and aim to display those traits, some guys bumble their way ass backward into a relationship. I found it most efficient to work at becoming the person I want to be, and just being that person all the time around everyone. Then I wait for interest. I don't waste my time with women who don't like the genuine aspects of my personality this way. Once I get interest, I assess i…
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:21 AM
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I go on dates with people on bumble but it leads to ghosting or no where. Work on your conversation skills. There's nothing wrong with how you look if you're landing dates. If they all leave after the date, you're a boring / weird date.
/r/seduction06/03/24 06:11 AM
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People will give you some leeway if you're 20 and still petulantly blaming your parents for your life, but the simple fact is when you finish high school you're responsible for yourself. Or you should be. If you don't like where you're at, steer your own course.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/24 03:37 AM
2

Not everything lost is a loss.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/24 03:27 AM
1

Wise decision. Those people sound terrible.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/24 03:11 AM
-1

I didn't read any of that. I'm allergic to spoiled child. I've been a man longer than you've been alive and I would bet my net worth nothing you wrote there is correct. Grow up.
/r/seduction06/03/24 02:43 AM
1

Oh sorry I consider that an absolute fact. Nobody cool hates women online.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:56 PM
1

I have not begun to call you names yet. I'm just stating absolute facts.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:51 PM
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but it feels no different than my conversations with my guy friends If this is true you are flirting 100% more effectively than most on this sub. It's called getting to know someone. To let her know you are into her, ask her out.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:51 PM
1

You dweebs are the ones with the obviously hurt feelings imo. I've never met a misogynist who wasn't the biggest coward.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:47 PM
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Your goal is your goal. Do what feels right for you. Nobody cares.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:41 PM
-3

Oh that's nice. Formulate an argument in support of that point and I will embarrass you.
/r/seduction05/03/24 09:21 PM
-4

Yes, it's true that both men and women can be fleeting when it comes to attraction Yes, that was my whole point, all the other shit you said at me is not relevant to anything I've typed.
/r/seduction05/03/24 08:30 PM
-2

Yes, if you think I was being literal, I would sound like a baby.
/r/seduction05/03/24 08:30 PM
18

Nah I prefer to use my words. And ok. Men, women are not ignoring your messages to hurt you. They have their own very complex adult lives going on, and sometimes there's only room for romance 1 night a week. Don't take it personally.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:47 PM
14

So you think it’s just as common No. Nowhere did I say this. It’s a much bigger deal for most guys if they meet a woman out and about and they place their hopes and get let down after meeting someone at night. Is there any reason the actual truth (club is not real life) would be less comforting than all that weird shit about women being creatures of the moment or whatever?
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:43 PM
-4

Quote an assertion I've failed to defend.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:29 PM
33

Can you explain why it's gendered? Can you not just say 'the club isn't real life' to help dudes understand why people often don't follow up?
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:28 PM
189

Are you for real? Dude that's everyone. Not just women. It's cool to cut loose on the weekends but then life is back in full swing, and sometimes following up with the person you drunkenly slept with or whatever is far too much effort.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:24 PM
-8

Thanks for the completely predictable response. I like how it devolved immediately into semantics and pedantry. In conclusion, I am unsurprised that you took personal offence at the sticky.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:14 PM
0

You know you can kiss more than once right?
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:04 PM
1

Normal: Meet > Date > Kiss > Sex > Relationship You: Meet > Date > Kiss > Date Stop going backwards.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:00 PM
-2

What are your thoughts about the increase in misogyny and self pity and the decrease in personal accountability?
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:59 PM
1

You are late, but if she's agreed to another date, you're fine.
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:51 PM
7

Ok well that's your problem right there, you're being really weird. Stop dating people platonically after you have escalated to physical intimacy.
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:50 PM
5

The cure for a boring personality is to live broadly and experience as much as humanly possible. If you aren't regularly getting out of your comfort zone, start.
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:42 PM
4

Ok, you kissed her. Then why does it stop there? Do they all leave? Do you just stop doing anything?
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:39 PM
0

I mean it doesn't exist. If you give me your understanding of what 'frame' is to you, I'll explain why it doesn't exist.
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:22 PM
6

This is basically how I do it, but whatever you do, I'd do it on the next date. Usually hug second date considering we'd have been texting in between dates and considerably closer. Have dinner / few drinks / chat. Suggest a walk. Now, if she has accepted the second date, she definitely finds you attractive and reasonably interesting. If she accepts the walk instead of taking off, this is basically plain English for 'I'm comfortable with you'. While on the walk, I'll take her hand. If she accepts…
/r/seduction05/03/24 02:41 PM
-1

Your post is a non-sequitur. So you've kissed a girl. Why can't you progress?
/r/seduction05/03/24 02:39 PM
8

There is so much that is weird about this. You're a collegiate athlete but you're talking like you don't have any friends. Conflating needy and nice is not accurate. They are not synonyms. 'Frame' doesn't exist, also 'being a man' doesn't mean anything, so despite having my respect for desiring to improve after introspection, I'm uncertain you're on the right path. If you want to reduce your neediness, you can do that in two ways that I'm aware of. You can have what you 'need', or you can stop v…
/r/seduction05/03/24 02:02 AM
2

Did they care?
/r/ExRedPill05/03/24 01:49 AM
1

Yeah dude that sounds like some deep seeded mental health issues that are a bit above reddit's pay grade to solve. Good luck.
/r/seduction05/03/24 12:17 AM
14

Hundo. I can find some psycho somewhere online saying literally anything. It seems pretty stupid for me to look at what mentally ill people say, and then make sweeping generalisations based on it.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/24 12:09 AM
3

You know what doesn't help anxiety? Self loathing. I don't think beating yourself up makes you a better talker, and I don't think being a confident speaker makes you not a coward. There's a whole bunch of really loaded language in your post there. So much so that I'd actually recommend seeking the opinion of a mental health specialist. They will give you the skills to combat anxiety as part of treatment. If you want to do it the longer way, forget about picking up women. Just talk to them. Talk …
/r/seduction05/03/24 12:04 AM
3

I really don't want to lose friendships but anything red pill really does make me feel dehumanized Have you tried telling them this? I'm serious. If you say this to them and they don't care, stop hanging around them. They aren't good people. If a friend came to me and said that the things I was saying degraded them as a person, I'd probably really want to fix it.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/24 11:42 PM
2

If you're having a good time and dancing, it wouldn't matter if women took an interest in you.
/r/seduction04/03/24 09:18 PM
-2

I think the way you are behaving is making her constantly unsure about you. You don't seem to care about the ways she's been hurt. You don't seem particularly keen to be there while she works through some of it. And this general attitude is probably seeping into your communication with her, causing her to hesitate. The correct thing to do would be to talk to her and be honest. Say 'look, I don't give a fuck about what happened in the past, and I want sex now please' and then your time won't be w…
/r/seduction04/03/24 06:50 AM
-2

You have to protect your reputation by not hitting on new women in front of women you have approached before. If you have to hide the things you are doing from anyone, ever, you're doing the wrong thing and you know it. That's an embarrassing way to behave.
/r/seduction04/03/24 05:53 AM
7

Nope. Personal space is something that you should be cognisant of every time you make a decision to intrude upon it. Loud clubs necessitate you entering someone's personal space just to be heard. Even if a woman doesn't particularly mind it, you have still made her first thought about you 'gee, he sure doesn't care about my personal space much'. That's an uphill battle. Much better in my opinion to have fun independent of her, to the point where she notices, and her first thought about me is 'da…
/r/seduction04/03/24 03:04 AM
14

You have the most fun in the club and the girls come to you. Or they don't. It doesn't matter, because you're having the most fun in the club. Loud clubs are basically the only setting where the women do basically all the chasing. Don't know why you'd want to fuck that up. It's nice not having the burden to initiate.
/r/seduction04/03/24 02:44 AM
2

Hundo. If people are desperate, there are people out there who will figure out your desperation and exploit it. If you would spend your self respect in order to not be starved of touch, you will be taken advantage of sooner or later.
/r/seduction04/03/24 12:26 AM
98

Quite a compliment. Being able to explain something to someone in a way they can understand even if they don't get down like that is pretty rare. Happy I could help.
/r/seduction03/03/24 07:53 AM
625

Do you remember when your parents used to take you to the playground when you were a kid, and you'd meet the only other kid there and you'd just become best friends until one or both of our guardians separated us and took us somewhere more boring? Casual sex is sort of like the grown up version of that in my head. Just because it was only for a short time doesn't mean I didn't really like the person, or respect them whole-heartedly. If sex in your head is some monumental earth-shattering underta…
/r/seduction03/03/24 07:45 AM
9

Yeah I don't know man usually I'm happy when I find out someone is extremely superficial so I can stop wasting my time with them. If you're sad that you are no longer wasting your time with one of the most superficial people on earth, I don't know how I can help.
/r/seduction02/03/24 11:19 PM
4

Usually I'd say 'be honest and direct' but I think telling her you love her out of nowhere would freak her out. When asking someone out, it's much easier to do it when you start feeling a 'connection' quite early on. That way you know for sure whether to concentrate on being friends or date. When you wait as long as you have, and let those feelings get out of control and snowball into "love", the stakes are a lot higher and asking a person out gets way harder. For example, she - quite rightly if…
/r/seduction02/03/24 09:24 PM
2

Can't argue with that!
/r/seduction02/03/24 09:12 PM
5

No man. She went on 2 dates with you. Not me. If she likes you, she'll want messages from you. Whoever that guy was on the date, be like him.
/r/seduction02/03/24 05:35 AM
1

I find that doing what people online say to do to get laid re-frames talking to women, seeing if you're compatible, and dating to something that you pass / fail. It's why I advocate dudes just behave in a way they can be proud of and is authentic to them. There's no failing that. Also they are way more likely to get laid being authentic than doing an impression of a the internet's idea of someone interesting.
/r/seduction02/03/24 05:19 AM
2

All the best shit isn't learned, it's earned. 99.99% of 'confidence' here is validation masquerading as confidence. When they're on a roll - oh so confident! - when the chips are down, not so much. Confidence doesn't wax and wain. It is generated internally and is a perpetual motion machine. Extremely valuable stuff. But I have never, ever seen anyone with it that hasn't earned those stripes. I should mention that while fun to have, it is absolutely not necessary to get laid or have fulfilling r…
/r/seduction02/03/24 05:10 AM
9

Can some ladies please tell me what do they mean by the template text though? Not a lady, but I think you'll find what they all had in common was they all went on dates with you. After meeting you, they decided that you made them feel not horny, but also noted that you weren't a bad or boring person. Just not someone they find attractive. It sounds the same because they were all written to and about the same person.
/r/seduction29/02/24 11:16 PM
1

Nothing. You just have extremely under-developed social skills. You're performing to the expected level. It would help more to be proactive in your own development. Look for commonalities in 'successes' and 'failures', form a hypothesis, test, evaluate, repeat.
/r/seduction29/02/24 09:44 PM
2

This is a community where 'doing stuff' is a little bit more encouraged.
/r/seduction29/02/24 09:07 PM
2

My dude this is exactly the discussion you should be having with your wife. You would do well to look at kink 101 stuff. It will give you an overall idea of how to set up, prepare for, and carry out a basic scenario so that you both, you know, like it. Since you both sound very novice, there's a book called 'screw the roses, send me the thorns' that is to this day the best kink 101 thing out there. It makes for a really good read with your partner as a couple's activity with the upside of sugges…
/r/seduction29/02/24 09:05 PM
1

Why is your self esteem killing you? You touch a soccer ball and worry that you aren't Messi? Why are you expecting to succeed at something you literally don't know the first thing about? I have good news and bad news. The bad news is there are no real shortcuts. Unlike interacting with fixed systems that follow explicit rules, your partner in crime is another individual and very fallible human. Between the two of you, there is no communication you cannot misunderstand. The good news is that the…
/r/seduction29/02/24 07:00 PM
5

My fear is a long conversation which will kill the mystery before our first date. My dude, most women don't give too much of a fuck about 'the mystery' of it all. They're more worried about normal things, like their safety around a stranger they have seen once over camera phone.
/r/seduction29/02/24 05:22 PM
0

No, it's called a shit test because some online weirdos in the 90s decided that women did this because that's how women work and bingo bango it's 2024 and you're still using it like an online weirdo didn't make it up in the 90s.
/r/seduction29/02/24 10:31 AM
0

Through my social network. I find women are a lot more receptive to romantic interest if you are already the friend of a friend.
/r/seduction29/02/24 06:43 AM
28

I seriously wince when a tinder date will compliment me as a decent guy regardless of whether or not we worked out as a couple. If I am getting complimented for not even doing anything good, just not doing something really off-putting, I am completely unsurprised that women are removing themselves from OLD sites, and I am also unsurprised that the person you used to be existed.
/r/ExRedPill29/02/24 03:08 AM
1

Well, no, because love isn't really definable. It's why we have 1 trillion terrible poems on the subject and like 7 good ones. It's a deeply personal subject that defies definition as a rule so of course that makes it interesting as hell.
/r/seduction29/02/24 02:50 AM
0

I pay absolutely no attention whatsoever to 99.9999999% of people on my way to work. That includes dozens and dozens of smoking hot women. If I'm not giving out 'ioi's' to smoking hot babes 24/7 as some old fat guy, why would they be giving 'ioi's' out to guys they deem 'fine, I guess'? I want to find the person responsible for the concept of 'ioi's' and tell them to log off. Stop staring at women trying to catch their eye. Stop looking for IOI's.
/r/seduction29/02/24 02:48 AM
9

I don't know about all that. Most people tend to experience the same stimulus very differently. I'd caution against having inappropriately sized feelings for a person considering your current relationship with them. That means strong feelings for people who don't know you exist and contempt for your current long term partner both. Any inappropriately sized feelings relative to the relationship.
/r/seduction29/02/24 02:40 AM
6

No, it was just used as a shorthand for 'a woman is going to find nearly every trait of mine to be extremely her thing' eventually. That said though, if a woman likes my sense of humour, there is a 99% chance we're compatible. YMMV
/r/seduction29/02/24 02:30 AM
2

Shit, me too. That's why I'm content to wait. It's only a matter of time before some poor girl finds my humour funny instead of terrible.
/r/seduction29/02/24 02:24 AM
11

I don't get a say in who finds me attractive. I don't know why they find me attractive, just thankful that a fair few women really dig my brand of ugly.
/r/seduction29/02/24 02:20 AM
-1

Can I ask what specific piece of evidence caused you to believe you need to start feeling up women without their consent in order for them to sleep with you? If you were on one of those old-timey dating gameshows and you were behind a curtain and couldn't touch, how would you simulate making her deeply uncomfortable in order to win?
/r/seduction29/02/24 01:09 AM
35

It's called 'an opportunity'. When directly contrasted with another man, my good qualities are accentuated exponentially. If you do not benefit from a direct contrast, maybe try and fix that.
/r/seduction29/02/24 12:45 AM
-4

It's a shame the OP is gone, because before he went off into moon logic being able to listen to a woman is far more powerful than feeling up a woman who probably doesn't want to be touched by you yet because you met seconds ago. You may be able to get away with feeling up women because online men told you to, but I am a scary motherfucker. I can get laid effortlessly by never being the first one to 'escalate kino'. In fact, I can get laid effortlessly by letting her do all stages of escalation f…
/r/seduction29/02/24 12:42 AM
1

You are making meaning where none exists in my opinion and failing shit tests you create for yourself.
/r/seduction28/02/24 03:23 PM
-1

Despite agreeing, thanks for getting back to me about the minor niggles.
/r/seduction28/02/24 01:39 PM
3

That's not a shit test that's a non-sequitur.
/r/seduction28/02/24 01:39 PM
-3

Shit tests don't exist. They're a self report for 'this question / situation made me feel inadequate and I don't think I lied convincingly enough to fool everyone so I looked bad in front of everyone: my worst nightmare'.
/r/seduction28/02/24 11:51 AM
-1

lol I love it when I can lay the whole reason their life has been an absolute disaster when it comes to women at people's feet and they'll just say stupid shit like this at it. Wasted I tell you.
/r/seduction28/02/24 11:39 AM
1

You wait til you actually want something. Then you go and get it.
/r/seduction28/02/24 05:36 AM
9

Are you looking for someone that's attracted to you or attracted to an internet amalgam of canned phrases?
/r/seduction28/02/24 05:28 AM
2

Me either, so I don't worry about that sort of stuff. If they think you're too needy, that's cool man. It wastes less of your time to end it sooner. More time to spend on people who like your attention and look forward to your messages.
/r/seduction28/02/24 03:00 AM
1

Is that the type of feelings you want to give to people you care about?
/r/seduction28/02/24 02:56 AM
1

Ok. Why are you concerned about being 'too available'?
/r/seduction28/02/24 02:33 AM
3

However often it's fun for you and them to text. Differs in every relationship.
/r/seduction28/02/24 02:26 AM
3

How correct someone's dating advice is correlates directly with their relative proximity to a luxury vehicle, making this guy's advice easily equal to that of an alleged sex trafficker.
/r/seduction27/02/24 10:30 PM
-1

I have no interest in women who play games. Your personal tolerance is your business, but I have no time for women who have trouble with basic communication failures.
/r/seduction27/02/24 10:16 PM
6

Yes, you probably shouldn't label someone a liar for being incorrect about their personal availability. There's more appropriate labels if that becomes an issue. Like 'a flake'.
/r/seduction27/02/24 10:15 PM
9

So you’ve never encountered a woman in your dating life whose words didn’t align with what she said to you? Yeah lots of times. Then I don't encounter them any more. If you say mistruth or you say one thing and do another you are a liar in both cases. I don't know why you guys are concerning yourselves with people who should have already left your thoughts.
/r/seduction27/02/24 07:53 PM
6

Never liked this framing. It insinuates that women will lie, but you'll know what's really going on if you watch her behaviour and I ask you, why are you watching her behaviour when she has already lied? Seems like you kept a liar in your life long enough to watch her be a hypocrite for some reason.
/r/seduction27/02/24 07:37 PM
2

Nobody, ever, needs to know what your romantic requirements are. Not even potential candidates. Nobody cares.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/24 03:40 PM
5

Hmm. Well his sales funnel gives me his trailer for picking up 1000 women in a week. That seems normal and achievable. Can you afford NOT to be picking up 1000 women in a week?
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:03 PM
1

You aren't torturing yourself because you did the incorrect thing. It is moronic in the extreme to participate in any street violence unless you are prepared to do 3-life in prison. And that's if you win. I know this, so do you. You're beating yourself up because you feel like you had no other option but pacifism, not that you chose pacifism. Up to you how you deal with that.
/r/seduction27/02/24 02:50 PM
10

Talk to literally everyone, all the time. Being an excellent conversationalist is a skill that transcends the type of relationship you have with someone. Everyone likes someone who is a good and pleasant chat. Volunteer at old folks homes, join a casual sports team help your next door neighbour lady do her garden and just have chats. I promise you. The skills will transfer. No time developing conversational skills are wasted.
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:32 AM
1

I was never a very good talker, so I learned how to be a very good listener listener first. This gave me room to practice my talking while still having the conversations feel fulfilling to both parties despite it being closer to a 70/30 talking / listening split between her and I. Does she bore you? Does the conversation bore you?
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:27 AM
0

I'm going to guess that there is no program on earth that contains applicable information that isn't available somewhere online for free. So I'd just google around a bit. Here's my program at the low introductory price of nothing. Online dating is a very visual-based dating experience, and everybody hates it. Men outnumber women by as much as like 4:1 on some apps because so many women don't use online dating at all. This means that women know that the chances of them matching with literally any…
/r/seduction27/02/24 02:27 AM
2

I am going to gracefully bow out of this conversation as I can't understand your situation and therefore can't provide an opinion worth jack shit.
/r/seduction27/02/24 01:26 AM
2

Yeah lots of assumption here mate No shit mate I'm going off of a title and a dozen words explaining nothing. she expressed guilt after and before this we've been in a relationship for years What?! You guys are in a relationship?! What the fuck is going on lol
/r/seduction27/02/24 01:22 AM
-1

Every relationship has their own defined borders that differ. Maybe in their relationship it's fine to sext with people, or maybe it's not even exclusive. You can absolutely ask her about it if you're curious and it affects the relationship you're having with her, but you sound like you're on the verge of 'confronting' her and that sounds like a great recipe for her to look at you funny and tell you to mind your own business, you weirdo, before being blocked on everything. Mind your own business…
/r/seduction27/02/24 01:15 AM
10

The quickest and easiest way to learn that a woman deserves respect is to see a woman respect herself enough to give him the finger and leave when he starts denigrating her by proxy.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/24 11:01 PM
1

In my experience when women want sex it doesn't matter but whatever I won't argue.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:08 PM
30

Remind him that you are a woman, and that it hurts you to hear this bullshit from his mouth. If he doesn't settle down, stop visiting him. Maybe that will put things in perspective for him. Or maybe it won't. Either way it is not your job to stop your 60+ year old dad from holding embarrassing view points, and him raising you does not earn him 'being a misogynist' credits to be used in later life.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/24 08:55 PM
0

Where are you getting this from? I'm making fun of him. When you 'cold approach' someone, the literal only thing you can know about them is they make your pee pee feel funny. That's why it's so embarrassing for an adult man to behave like this. Hope that clears this really simple concept up for you.
/r/seduction26/02/24 08:51 PM
0

Yeah, being an internet cool guy at women I don't know is definitely not for me lol. It's obviously working out great for you though. kudos.
/r/seduction26/02/24 08:36 PM
1

Why not? I know when a woman wants sex. When I do say that, they are extremely enthusiastic about it. I don't need to couch sex in euphemism.
/r/seduction26/02/24 08:34 PM
0

It is embarrassing for a fully grown man to need to build a social life by marching up to tits he likes and saying 'I like your tits' but not saying that even though that's all he could possibly know about her.
/r/seduction26/02/24 08:33 PM
1

I don't use them as access to women. There are single women around those people, but that's incidental to me.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:51 AM
1

My work social groups are centred around aviation. People I don't necessarily hang with all the time but have worked with and have people I know one way or another all over. Ditto hobbies. My friend social groups are an amalgam of different people that I've found to be 'my people' and my closest friends.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:50 AM
2

I have a number of large social networks (work, social, hobbies) who I socialise with frequently and a job that has me talking with different people all the time. I am put in the vicinity of dozens of women I don't know every single week with zero effort from me who I can ask what's up to if appropriate and if I want.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:43 AM
-2

'Link ma boyyyyy' to 'u trolling :-(((' in record time.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:33 AM
-1

As a grown man, I do unashamedly express it - when appropriate. Also, as a grown man I want a decent woman, not just a nice set of tits and ass.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:32 AM
0

This is the saddest outlook on earth. You have been brainwashed.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:31 AM
1

Yeppp
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:31 AM
0

Form adult relationships
/r/seduction26/02/24 07:52 AM
-7

'Hello, as a grown man I've looked at your legs and tits and deem you worthy. Contact info please'. - a grown man
/r/seduction26/02/24 07:52 AM
-11

I think a big difference between cold approach success of an 18-23 year old dude would be much different to a dude who is at least 30. At least when you're 18-23, you have an excuse for being a young moron to explain for why you think marching up to women you don't know and try to be an internet cool guy at her is a good idea. After all in school, boys and girls typically don't mix too much so young women are used to having much of their appeal come purely from how they look. Older women will se…
/r/seduction26/02/24 07:29 AM
10

Nobody is being fooled by 'come check out my dorm' dude. Everyone but the most extremely drunk could see through that. Your hit rate for attempting to take women back to your place should be 1.000 or as close to it as humanly possible. If you are fucking up that invite, you need to look and listen to the women you're dating more closely.
/r/seduction26/02/24 06:14 AM
28

I'm glad it worked out for you. I'm a million years old and read The Game the year it came out. I remember going to a club that weekend and using a line from it when talking to this big mixed group. Think it was the neg 'yeesh, is she always like this?'. Anyway everyone laughed, and she giggled and hugged me which at that point in time was the most affection I'd ever received from a woman. While sitting in a kayak early the next morning paddled a fair way out to sea with another mate in another …
/r/TheRedPill23/02/24 05:43 AM
34

They're also afraid of a lot of other things too. Like women, other men, literally anyone exerting autonomy and reminding them they can't control everyone in their life, being vulnerable, being made to feel like they are less than perfect, that evolutionary psychology is just a creative writing degree with a casual interest in some sciences, getting cheated on, getting beaten up, the entire concept of feminism, shit I could literally keep going.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 08:23 PM
1

Yep it sure is dangerous everyone who thinks like this should stop talking to women forever it's the only way to be safe.
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:00 PM
11

Why don't you just text like you speak then? Or do you say 'how's your day going' with a complex waggling of eyebrows and a rising tone of voice that is hard to reproduce the intoxicatingly sexy effects over text?
/r/seduction21/02/24 02:36 PM
6

You will mostly just meet women who like to do pilates. For the love of all that is holy man please don't live the rest of your life like this.
/r/seduction21/02/24 01:53 PM
2

Nah. Even if I told you something to say and it was received really well, it would do you no favours in the end. Because she wouldn't be liking you, she'd be liking your impression of me, which is obviously going to cease immediately and in all likelihood give her a really weird vibe. My advice is to be as you as possible. Because that's what she'll be getting herself into, so it's fair that she know.
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:45 AM
2

If you say so, then sure why not. As long as it's genuine it has a chance of being received as cute instead of a little weird / a lot masturbatory.
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:36 AM
3

You just want her to notice this: Edit: the reason she has no clue who I am is (I'm assuming) because I put on about 40lbs of muscle in those 4 years, my style is different, and I look way different in my pics. and comment upon it right? If that is correct, you should absolutely not do this.
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:32 AM
2

No, you usually have to commit a heinous crime for that to happen.
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:19 AM
2

I'm not scared, I just don't do things to other people that I wouldn't want done to me. And having someone with the size and strength to kill me with their bare hands coming up to me out of the blue and making a direct or indirect effort towards me going somewhere alone with them and disrobing is on the list of things I wouldn't want to deal with too often. As a scary looking motherfucker, cold approaching is a flat out waste of time. Without significant social proof, it would just take too long…
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:17 AM
-4

Good to see you too man.
/r/seduction21/02/24 04:39 AM
3

Yeah man I haven't ran across data on that. Sorry.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 04:39 AM
6

Well, if you want, you could hit up the nearest boxing / MT / MMA gym and just train a few times a week for a year. I promise you won't be scared of being hit any more. Honestly though it's not necessary. I was a bouncer in very dangerous pubs and clubs for many years and I can count on one hand the amount of attacks where there was literally no reason. Every other time it was two guys being dickheads to each other until a line was crossed. If some guy comes over and says 'please stop hitting on…
/r/seduction21/02/24 03:55 AM
13

Can you elaborate on what you mean? Isn't the nuclear family structure for the 'beta bux' or whatever those lunatics call guys in happy relationships?
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 03:36 AM
5

If you are constantly being crushed by a stupidly unserious man joining the conversation maybe consider that you have serious strides to make in being an attractive person and skilled social actor. If competition appears and I do not prevail, I probably need to work on myself or be at peace with winning some and losing some.
/r/seduction20/02/24 05:01 PM
6

I treat first messages like a creative writing exercise. I take whatever they give me and try to write something that makes me laugh. Her liking my terrible humour is essential because I'm not going to stop being a moron for her, so it also acts as a filtration system for women who are likely to be compatible with me. Or you can just message generic bullshit you find online. I've got no experience in whether that would work so I won't comment on its efficacy.
/r/seduction20/02/24 03:49 AM
1

Errr all different ways. 1 grabbed me off the dance floor at a club, another was a class mate's room mate, another I met as a customer at a strip club, she was a dancer, and 2 years after we met there our friend groups collided on a night out on the town and she remembered me because I gave her her first ever tip. That night was her first night stripping. And finally met one on tinder. Apart from my tinder girlfriend, the other three all necessitated an active social life and a reputation as a g…
/r/seduction20/02/24 02:52 AM
3

No... I just live my life completely happy to never have sex again in the days that remain to me and am always pleasantly surprised when it happens constantly.
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:47 PM
2

Er, yeah man. I always wondered how a guy proposes to a girl, but knows so little about her that she says no. Fucking marriage is generally discussed at regular intervals when a relationship starts getting serious along with things like children and the future in generally. If this isn't happening at like the barest fucking minimum you don't have the emotional maturity to make a life long commitment. Similarly, how the fuck do guys not know how a girl will react when they ask them out? Have you …
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:31 PM
5

I was proud to buy my ma a place on a tropical island for her retirement. A lot of what I did has left scars that will never heal, but they can be managed. If there's an upside to experiencing cruelty and pain, it's that a woman saying no to me asking her on a date is not a real worry of mine.
/r/seduction19/02/24 09:09 PM
137

It's not. You can have sex with whoever the fuck you want. So can women. Your question is 'Why can't I state my personal romantic requirements in public that constitute a value judgement on people who don't meet that requirement' and the answer is 'Because people don't like fucking assholes'. Hope this helps you move on with life. Nobody, ever, needs to know what your romantic requirements are. Not even potential candidates. Nobody cares.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/24 11:55 AM
1

Because it's a fact of life that two people can love each other deeply and not be right for each other as their individual lives start going in irreconcilable directions. So in each relationship we had a talk where we discussed our future, the possible alternatives to breaking up, and just deciding that it was best for both parties. Like adults. It happens. It's painful, but I will either find another woman that meets my standards or I don't. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not going to cling on to…
/r/seduction19/02/24 07:09 AM
43

When I was 18 I bought a 1 way ticket to the other side of the world with 70 dollars to start a new life. Partied ~5 nights a week. Worked inside and outside the law, been homeless, and went jail all before I was 20. When I got out of prison I was a bouncer in the most dangerous pubs and clubs in my area, and after getting thrown off the second floor balcony of a pub I decided that if I was going to die on job I should at least get free healthcare. So I joined the military age 23 and had an enti…
/r/seduction18/02/24 08:07 PM
85

Fucking easy mode. Lol. Dont know about that show, but I think I know what you're talking about. It looks effortless because it is. After tens of thousands of hours of practice in an enormous variety of environments. You can't learn this. You earn this. It takes years.
/r/seduction18/02/24 07:51 PM
1

I don't agree with the logic behind basically all of that, but it's doing no harm so whatever.
/r/seduction18/02/24 06:52 PM
1

I found identification 10% of the work. The other 90% was the learning and implementation of effective coping mechanisms with a sustained regularity until the processes become subconscious. This was a multi year process. Don't know how your childhood compares to military trauma, but I wouldn't undersell the work that was required for the problems I faced.
/r/seduction18/02/24 01:40 PM
3

The more life you live, the easier it is to hold people's interest. Unless you want all your stories to be about texting women you've never met for months, intersperse that with a vibrant and interesting life.
/r/seduction18/02/24 11:01 AM
5

Lesson 1, stop calling them females. Lesson 2, treat them with the same kindness and consideration as you would expect from someone professing to care about you. To answer your question, none that I've seen. I know making mistakes and possibly embarrassing yourself is scary, but there are not really shortcuts to this sort of thing. Do your best, and if your best isn't good enough and a relationship ends, don't dwell on what was 'their fault', it changes nothing. Reflect on the things you can imp…
/r/seduction18/02/24 06:38 AM
22

Yes, if I was attracted to her for some reason and she was attracted to me. Manipulation only works on people who can't recognise it and shut it down. She can seek attention all she likes from wherever she likes. We're just fucking when it's convenient. Having sex with someone does not contractually bind you to put up with bullshit.
/r/seduction18/02/24 06:28 AM
12

You are 15. This sub is restricted to those 18 and above not because we're trying to hide the secrets of successful relationships from 15 year olds, but because this place is loaded with advice so bad that following it requires you to be able to take legal responsibility for that stupidity. Awkwardness is normal. Fucking up is normal. I've been finding new ways to fuck up relationships as a middle aged geezer but that's what living and learning is. Being close to someone is giving them the tools…
/r/seduction18/02/24 05:15 AM
5

You can also just not be thirsty and show an appropriate amount of interest. You don't have to be a petty weirdo. Women are pretty socially intelligent. They can figure out you aren't desperate by you just not being desperate. All this is telling them us that you spend more time thinking about people who don't meet your standards than the people that do.
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:38 AM
1

Women - I can't believe I have to say this - are adults and generally have a whole, deeply complex individual existence juggling family, work, study, friends, everything you do and maybe more. Some guy on a dating app can be priority number 1 and then suddenly become priority number 3000 instantly because life started being life at them. Everything a woman does is not done to affect you. You are not the centre of the universe. You are not the main character.
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:14 AM
9

I agree with you broadly OP, and simply treating a woman like a normal person is so rare - especially as young adults - that women find it wildly attractive when you don't turn into a weirdo while trying to find out if you have chemistry. But the male logic female emotion weird shit is limiting you. I don't logically and rationally assess my male friends and hang out with them because they have the right job and car. I hang out with them because they make me feel important and valuable. Just lik…
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:08 AM
2

Oh, fashion? The thing 45 year old men picking up their kids are into? Wearing socks and sandals?
/r/seduction17/02/24 07:40 PM
-1

Lol keep telling yourself that Mr watch list
/r/seduction17/02/24 07:39 PM
-22

No. It isn't. It is empirical that people consistently date within a few years of themselves. So keep your pedo adjacent weird shit to yourself. Edit: oh sorry there is quite a few pedo adjacent weirdos. You can keep it with them too.
/r/seduction17/02/24 03:06 PM
1

All women wish you did too.
/r/seduction17/02/24 12:28 PM
18

Now I'm super attracted by younger girls Oh dear.
/r/seduction17/02/24 11:12 AM
-1

OK good luck.
/r/seduction17/02/24 11:04 AM
-1

I think that time has never existed or if it did you have received a colossal head injury in the interim that has altered your recollection. Those aren't signs of anything. Especially in a nightclub.
/r/seduction17/02/24 10:50 AM
2

I've also made eye contact with a lot of women who then danced within my eye line. In my experience that does not mean they want to have sex with me. In fact, it often just meant absolutely nothing. Or at least, I hope it means nothing. Or I've also had men in not a gay club want to have sex with me too which while flattering, seems improbable. I think looking at each other might not mean much other than acknowledging that they exist.
/r/seduction17/02/24 10:25 AM
7

My first girlfriend ever grabbed me off the dance floor. No, literally, she danced into me, I danced away assuming it was accidental, then she grabbed my arm and spun me 180 to face her. Women go to clubs to shake ass. That ass has to get shaken in front of someone, and it is not necessarily an invite to touch or interact with them at all. My first girlfriend and many other women in the decades since have shown the ability to get my attention and unambiguously made their intentions clear. Chill …
/r/seduction17/02/24 09:07 AM
2

I don't come off as desperate ever because I never am. I am happy with the way I'm approaching life, and if that choice makes me absolutely repellent to 100% of women, I'd just continue doing my thing being kind and polite to everyone until I died never having sex again. No regrets. For some reason though women find this trait wildly attractive in me specifically.
/r/seduction17/02/24 08:19 AM
20

Yep. Someone just left the cult. The impossible becomes possible before their eyes, and that makes cognitive dissonance very hard to quieten down.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/24 07:47 AM
1

No, I saw it. You're a fucking moron if you think 2 individuals are even remotely comparable for any useful reason. Not just the women I think are special.
/r/seduction17/02/24 07:40 AM
8

This is absolutely insane dog shit. Women are human beings you fucking weirdo dipshit. They are not a hive mind. No two are the same. They are individuals. Is any of this getting through? Stop thinking like this, it's unhinged.
/r/seduction16/02/24 01:12 PM
5

This has started conversations in 99.9% of occasions for me.
/r/seduction16/02/24 01:06 PM
2

Yeah to be fair it needs a lot of expanding upon. It shits on top of basically everything the pick-up community advocates and a small post isn't enough to challenge that. Shit I'm surprised it's up voted at all.
/r/seduction16/02/24 08:21 AM
4

The fastest boost I ever got, ironically, was to be asexual around women. Long story but I basically created 'going my own way' in the 90s while crying hysterically at the age of 12, leading to completely give up on any chance of dating, but recognising that women still needed to be interacted with in a normal life. So I talked to them exactly like I'd talk to men and never expected anything, ever. This led to a massive number of friends of both genders and eventually this got me laid. Then I ke…
/r/seduction15/02/24 12:08 PM
1

'Do you have some sort of social disability? Why are you talking to me?' 'FOOLISH GIRL. MY DARK TRIAD TRAITS OF WARPING SOCIAL NORMS IS ATTRACTIVE! FIND ME ATTRACTIVE!'
/r/seduction15/02/24 11:01 AM
1

Lol cool dude maybe your mysterious dark triad energy can help you take non specific advice like an adult and respond to the points made.
/r/seduction15/02/24 11:00 AM
12

Trying again huh? Here's different advice. Women fucking hate men who try to be 'subtle' about their intentions, because it leads to men 'subtly' showing interest over months or years, appearing to the woman like they might be 'a friend'. See where I'm going with this? Stand up tall and ask her out to coffee or a drink and stop with this cloak and dagger coward shit.
/r/seduction15/02/24 10:08 AM
1

Headphones in are a universal sign for 'don't fucking talk to me unless it's an emergency or I know you'. Sure, you can ignore that and press on, but you are starting the interaction with her first thoughts about you being 'this man is socially r-worded, or is prepared to ignore my wishes whenever he feels like it'. Quite a tough battle.
/r/seduction15/02/24 08:48 AM
3

Yep. Approx 700 women in my small town if 0.1% of all women on earth in my dating range are attracted to me. Which is a massive number with even a reasonably active social life.
/r/seduction14/02/24 04:15 PM
1

Oh so you thought the OP was asking about whether or not you were stupid enough to accidentally build up sufficient trust and attraction to constitute 'love' in more than one woman by accident? What do you think love is?
/r/seduction14/02/24 04:11 PM
1

Your outlook on dating necessitates that all women respond to 'the right guy' - a label they have no way of knowing is applicable to Some Guy - or else everything you think you know about women and dating is wrong. And it is.
/r/seduction14/02/24 01:05 PM
1

It's just an anxiety you'll live with for as long as you approach dating like women are aliens lol You'll get used to it.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:46 PM
-2

Ahahahahhahaha oh all women respond to it do they? Wow. I cannot imagine knowing so little about my fellow humans.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:45 PM
1

Lol thanks man appreciated it was a good demo of what I was saying. You nailed it.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:41 PM
0

Nah you don't think you're special. This is just how you are exhibiting the anxiety I mentioned definitely exists in men who approach dating like you.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:38 PM
-2

Hahaha so you think a woman you openly approach and hit on is not the type of girl who will respond to a guy who will openly approach and hit on her? You think you're special bro? Lol.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:37 PM
-1

Oh I see lol. You think I approach women and talk circles around fucking. Lmao. I don't approach women at all.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:30 PM
-5

I don't know what the fuck you think my post is saying but reading what you wrote as a direct response to me is gibberish.
/r/seduction14/02/24 12:29 PM
1

If you consider being an obvious hypocrite a good thing, yes.
/r/seduction14/02/24 07:41 AM
5

Sure. Some girls will respond to guys walking up to them and openly hitting on them. 4 billion is a number so big you will absolutely find some success. However, then you are only ever in a relationship with the type of woman who will respond to such things as long as they consider the man's appearance to be pleasing enough. Literally every man who picks up women this way's fear lol. A gambler goes to hell, and it's a casino where he can never lose.
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:28 AM
1

Lol what was it again? No one is talking about love? What exact disability causes you to be unable to read 8 words in a row?
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:04 AM
0

Please re-read the title or stop skipping primary school English classes.
/r/seduction13/02/24 04:28 PM
1

It can be. But I wouldn't specify a gender. Having the respect and friendship of other men is also useful for dating.
/r/seduction13/02/24 04:01 PM
-2

Impossible. If you were honest about pursuing the love of multiple women, they'd know about each other.
/r/seduction13/02/24 03:51 PM
4

You should avoid any promises of shortcuts to dating. That will require you to learn how to deceive and lie when you could be using that time to learn the social skills that will not just help with dating, but positively impact all aspects of your life. If you need to deceive or lie to fuck, you chronically lack in important aspects of life and should be actively pursuing to remedy that. 90% of relationships is just you and her hanging out. Work on being the type of person everyone wants around,…
/r/seduction13/02/24 03:49 PM
0

But if it were from the perspective of women, it would boost ego and self-esteem. I think it's nice that several people can love you. Unless you're a woman then it just boosts your ego. Lol what you know about women could be written on the back of a cigarette pack using a house painting brush.
/r/seduction13/02/24 01:18 PM
-5

That is impossible if you're a decent person. Love takes a lot of time and work to develop. Having two women in love with you at once who did not know about each other would make you an absolute piece of shit who needs a smack in the mouth and a lecture about treating others with decency.
/r/seduction13/02/24 10:04 AM
1

Acronym for online dating.
/r/seduction13/02/24 05:09 AM
3

Texting is a valuable tool in dating. I see a lot of highly up voted advice saying something like 'USE TXT ONLY TO ARRANGE A REAL LIFE MEETING' which besides being absolute dog shit advice in the modern era is just another way of saying 'my txt game lacks and I don't want to admit it'. Great orators are not necessarily good writers. And great writers are definitely not often known to be great orators. They are related skills in that they are both modes of communication, but separate skillsets. I…
/r/seduction13/02/24 05:07 AM
3

I'm fat, and until recently I shaved my head skin bald and had a huge beard. No problems with women at all. I do dress very well though,and I'm clean. I believe those are the minimum standard for the vast majority of women.
/r/seduction12/02/24 10:16 AM
1

When I walk down the street, or go to a club, I don't take interest in 99.9999999999% of people because I don't know them. And I'm a fat, middle aged dude. I've seen a billion extremely hot women. If I took an obvious interest in every hot woman I saw, I would be incapable of living. Why are you insecure that women aren't taking an obvious interest in Some Guy?
/r/seduction12/02/24 10:14 AM
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