How to be a real man.

DearCommunication919 · 2023-07-03T06:28:31+00:00

How to be a real man? Have sex with beautiful women (be their first) and defeat other stronger men in fights. Everything else is giving cisgender men a gender dysphoria, that's why they are so unhappy. A man is defined by violence and sex. If you can't have sex, go to the gym, learn to fight, join a PMC, see some action, see the beautiful nature of Africa.

DenseCompetitionR · 2023-07-03T07:22:21+00:00

Cool another "Just be yourself" post. Men follow this advice if you like being alone.

novelgrowth22 · 2023-07-03T11:45:55+00:00

This is great and all, but women are still attracted to men who uphold a certain masculine standard. So if you are saying you shouldn't let others define you, then i agree, but if you want to be included in the sexual market, you have to go with what women want.

Opening_Pattern_301 · 2023-07-03T16:22:04+00:00

you re gonna get in hard for dissapointment when you realize none of the guys here pay for tate courses

Apprehensive_Net7337 · 2023-07-03T11:15:46+00:00

I don't think beta males are qualified to tell men how to be men.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2023-07-03T08:28:50+00:00

You're doing it right now. Whatever it is. That's it, you're doing it. You're being a real man.

I agree with you. "Real manhood" does not objectively exist, and it is basically a social control mechanism.

But that doesn't change the fact that the substantial majority of opposite-sex-attracted women sexually desire men who live up to (and even excel at complying with) traditional notions of 'real manhood.'

The thing is, masculinity isn't good or bad. It's everything done in the name of masculinity, good and bad, truth and lies. Everything you post here, all the hate, that's masculinity too.

Last time I checked, the men who post "hate" here (and some of it is actual hate, but much of it is cathartic venting) are mocked and stigmatized for doing so. They aren't seen as "performing masculinity" when they do this, but rather admitting their failure at doing so (and thus proving they deserve scorn and humiliation).

Yes, Gender Essentialism is incorrect (even though there are on-average biologically-based temperamental differences between men and women, that's a softer claim than Gender Essentialism). But gender roles are like religion - even if they are not objectively real, they become impactful through people believing in and acting upon them.

So even if there's no such thing as "real manhood," we still need to confront the fact that men who deviate from what society considers "real manhood" receive poor treatment, both from other men and women.

Society doles out benefits to those who comply, and imposes costs upon those that deviate. You can't just come in here and tell us that "real manhood doesn't exist" and think that makes the problem suddenly go away - the issue is how men are treated by others. Many of the men on this subject have been subjected to some exceptionally cruel treatment just because they didn't live up to society's ideals - you can tell them that the ideals are shit but that won't change anything until how men are treated by society in general changes.

Let me be blunt - you have mentioned more than once how you happen to comply with traditional ideals of "real manhood" (been in the military, "I am extremely good at violence and sex," etc.). You're basically a natural "alpha" or "chad" which means you're the privileged class here. You haven't borne the costs of gender-role-noncompliance... Which is probably why you think merely saying "but traditional masculinity is full of shit" is going to fix anything or that the men here are just "oppressing themselves."

Indeed, for a man like yourself, bluepill beliefs are social signalling. A luxury belief. And you coming here and condescending to gender-role-noncompliant men really comes off as you humblebragging and showing off in order to impress others.

ErrprMachjne1 · 2023-07-04T22:31:55+00:00

Men are defined by what they do. Who we are is defined by what we do. What you're describing is women's mentality that you're "good enough as you are Queen".

Men don't need to emasculate other men to preface a point and make themselves seem reliable.

Andrew Taint is doing volumes more for men that society ever has. His advice about risk taking, going to the gym and taking challenging work and jobs is exactly what makes men feel fullfilled and whole, accomplished and creates brotherhood.

You can sit at home and work with the women. I'm pretty sure that's how eunuchs came about in the first place, but your advice is bullshit.

Title	How to be a real man.
Author	ROBYoutube
Upvotes	0
Comments	54
Date	July 3, 2023 6:17 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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