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The average 4/10 woman can still get at least meaningless sex. If she has big tits and/or big ass, it’s especially true. “Butterfaces” get plenty of attention. Have you considered hitting the gym and cleaning up your diet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:58 AM
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I don’t know if you’ve ever worked on a team before, but other people can be utilized as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:54 PM
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I know there was once this sort of machismo about men never asking for help, often to the point where it was detrimental to them. It sounds like you are still stuck in those times. We are in the Information Age. Maybe they don’t know how to do something, but they know how to utilize their resources, which is the next best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:49 PM
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One thing to also consider is a lot of women are violent by proxy. “I’m gonna get my brother to beat your ass,” or something similar. However, the men are still the ones that ultimately do the damage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:24 PM
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If it’s “close enough” you could throw out a stat and not be so intellectually lazy. Are we looking at 51% or 99%?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:30 AM
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Sure. Plenty of dudes are complete ass-hats. What makes you think they know anything about RP? Or are you just conflating things to fit your narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:06 PM
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RP is pretty anti-porn, there are several posts regarding how it destroys your motivation, kills sex drive/performance, etc. so I disagree with your premise. Your “woke censorship” comment is coming from male gamers as a collective, and not necessarily something RP, especially if the source material has been well established. With regard to the Tinder comment, unless you’re literally watching them as they scroll through Tinder and they’re making such comments, I’m calling ‘bullshit’ on that as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:13 PM
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When did men wearing make-up become commonplace again? Holding men to a standard that society doesn’t hold them to is ridiculous. Based on obesity percentages, men are the ones that take better care of their health. Average women are still average, and their “intentional efforts” aren’t enough to make them not-average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:20 AM
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I don’t believe you The amount of effort is less important than the outcome. Just because you made the effort to dress up a pig and put lipstick on it, that doesn’t translate to it being higher value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:09 AM
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Maybe it -should- be, but it seems like all when you consider the metrics that get thrown around with dating, men are much more on par with a natural bell curve, while women’s views are skewed to where below average women are too good for regular ass men. >Men, unfortunately, don't put thought into vetting even their own female partners. It is therefore laughable that they would think they know what reasonable standards are for a woman to have for men. Having no standards at all is a bad idea, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:47 PM
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Get off of Instagram long enough, and you see plenty of extra-regular dudes with their extra-regular wives and girlfriends. Are they each other’s first choice? Maybe, maybe not. But people are definitely still pairing off, regardless of what all these stupid “loneliness epidemic” articles are saying. This isn’t to say that things haven’t gotten harder, but trying to travel abroad just for a potentially better dating pool is out of the question for a pretty significant number of average men. As a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:30 PM
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“More attractive”… Being not fat is comparable having straight teeth. It helps but it’s not defining when it comes to beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:36 PM
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Your leap in logic of “men take more risks in X” doesn’t translate to them taking risk in Y. After the whole metoo movement, women have been continually complaining about how men don’t approach them, so I don’t know where you’re even coming up with this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:19 AM
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“Statistically true” Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:25 AM
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You act like not being fat automatically makes you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:01 AM
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Most average men don’t -want- an average woman either. Men are just less deluded about what they can reasonably get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:00 AM
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Personally, I see pedophilia in the same light -mentally- as any other fetish. If people can enjoy things like feet, or getting pooped on, it’s not that hard to conceptualize them liking kids. We just [rightfully] deem that as a line people shouldn’t cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:21 PM
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I’ve sat at a bar playing games on my phone minding my own business, and I’ve been approached. I get more definitive feedback in-person. Mindlessly swiping on an app seems so depressing sometimes. I don’t know where I’d place my success with it. Middling I suppose. I’ve gotten A LOT of first dates that didn’t amount to anything. Obviously, this is just -my- experience, but I’m of the belief that you’re not going to get better at dating if you don’t put yourself in the trenches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:45 PM
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Dave Ramsey used to be anti-prenup. Then one day on his show he pointed out that “sometimes your spouses family gets in their ear.” Marriage is one of the only contracts where the Terms and Conditions aren’t spelled out. Getting a prenup deals with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:13 PM
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Or when you have movies where the awkward nerdy guy (played by some physical 8/10 actor) gets the girl in the end when she was dating Mr popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:09 PM
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No. Women complain about how the men to choose from aren’t good enough. Not liking your options is not the same as not having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:50 PM
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One of the basic RP tenants is that you can’t fault women for being women. If it’s in their nature to go for XYZ, then you need to accept that and act accordingly. “The bar for men is in hell,” should translate to you that it doesn’t take much effort to stand out. Just be sure that when you reach whatever level you’re striving for, don’t go after women who are ‘beneath’ you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:55 PM
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You realize that getting likes doesn’t mean shit, right? You still have to converse with the woman and get a date. I’ve had plenty of matches that ‘timed out’ because she never said hi, or she did start a convo and things fizzled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:08 AM
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“Being creepy is creepy”…. Does the term “circular logic” mean anything to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:16 PM
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Ugly with a backbone will often get perceived as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:29 PM
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Have you talked to her about her standards -outside- of looks and income? Also, it is indeed possible to have an LTR after having sex early, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Taking her experiences and trying to extrapolate it to try to come to some consensus about women’s behaviors = stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:04 PM
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Demanding better choices? Are you trying to start a revolution on behalf of these countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:39 PM
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How is it not a realistic option? Some rando with money wants a relationship…that’s not coercion. She can continue living the life she’s always known.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:11 PM
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Obsession was just a remake of Fatal Attraction/Swim Fan/The Crush, but with more of a horror twist. I wouldn’t delve too much deeper into than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:31 AM
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“Right” or not, you’ll be hard pressed to find a woman that would agree to such an arrangement. She either needs to have a poly mindset or be emotionally unattached from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:40 PM
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What rights are you talking about? From what I’ve seen all the rights I’ve seen that are “under threat” start and end with abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:57 PM
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[This is wrong](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/soulbroken/202505/how-male-friendship-save-lives). Men having close friends has been on a pretty steady decline for a while now. And with loss of third spaces, and the prevalence of social media, the “perpetually” online has risen significantly. The average screen time (including TV) for adults is 7 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:44 PM
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Personally, I’m very clean. Take your shoes off when you come in, No dishes in the sink when I go to bed, make the bed every morning, etc. I like to relax as much as the next guy, but I like to relax knowing that I don’t have any chores pending. My MIND can be at ease along with my body. Moreover, maintaining your space isn’t really all that time consuming. It takes less than 10 minutes to straighten up my space before bed. I’ve seen a lot of men that are perfectly fine just being in their own f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:27 PM
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Pretty sure most men aren’t trying to commit murder. Wanting to be desired and have sexual access to women, is much more universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:10 PM
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I said “harder.” Which is a comparison, not an absolute. Interesting how you had to add the caveat of “attractive with a robust social life.” Most men don’t fall into that category. Meanwhile, even bottom-tier women can get sex without much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:03 PM
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>Why do you think my LTR partners would call me disparaging names when I had been completely faithful to them? They were probably hurt/spiteful, and “whore/crazy” are easy go-to insults. >Why do random men hate on random promiscuous women? Promiscuous women are seen as degenerate, and a net negative to society. Most men aren’t going to promote things that are viewed in such light. >Why is their mental health questioned? Clear and thorough judgement with a sense of forethought would not lead to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:46 AM
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Enjoying sex doesn’t make you a slut. High N-count does. Having copious amounts of sex with your LTR is not the same as being the next Bonnie Blue. I do think slutshaming -does- work on some level because women try to push back on men not wanting high N women, with things like “you’re insecure” and “the past doesn’t matter.” Women innately know men don’t want to date promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:42 AM
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Unless they are delusional and getting married after like 4-6 months, they probably aren’t having “fuckfest” level sex, which in my experience is generally toward in the beginning of the relationship . Marriage-minded men -do- want a consistent level of sex from someone they love, and they’re likely satisfied with 2-3 times a week, considering that life happens. Where you even came up with this idea is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:52 AM
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As usual, people love to cope by saying “high quality women wouldn’t fall for that shit.” Yeah ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:05 PM
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I’m pretty the passport bro go-to strategy is to move to that country. Bringing a girl back brings the risk of her becoming Americanized.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:13 AM
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I think the aspect that men are generally the pursuers and seen as DTF be default is why age gap relationships where the male is younger isn’t seen in such a negative light. We go so far as to even marginalize statutory rape and teachers fucking students when the male is younger. Many people are more likely to assume a teenage boy wanted the sex and less likely to consider coercion, manipulation, or long-term psychological effects. That assumption can lead to minimization of the offense compared…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:57 AM
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Yup, no single mothers have ever figured out how to raise children in the history of all human kind. Ever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:16 PM
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As much as the women on PPD love to pretend that women are “perfectly fine” with their solitude or being with their girl groups, they largely just aren’t. This especially rings true as they get older, and their friends start pairing off with men and starting families. It’s not hard to go down a rabbit hole on tiktok or whatever and find thousands of videos of women lamenting about wanting to be with a man, start a family, and all that. At least those are actual testimonies as opposed to whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:14 PM
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Yeah I refuse to believe that ~17M women have been raped and ~57M have been sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:53 PM
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“Mike Pence rule” comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:04 PM
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All the time. And thousands of these women tell on themselves between TikTok, these stupid dating shows, and relationship podcasts. Those women are generally a turnoff from an LTR standpoint though, not necessarily a random lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:39 PM
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Sure, but when you’re in your 30s/40s, are you still looking for one-nighter and short term flings, or are you looking for an LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:00 PM
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Considering that one of the biggest determining factors of a man’s RMV is his capacity for provisioning, I disagree. Men’s peak earning years is late 30s to mid 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:27 PM
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It literally -is- that simple. If you have different cleanliness standards, then you learn to standardize how things get done. Or you can do what you can to help simplify things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:26 PM
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As a man that’s been cleaner than any woman I’ve dated, this is stupid. The solution to her being worn out from doing chores is for you to contribute. If you have money for a cleaning service, then more power to you, but I personally see that kind of thing as a huge waste. Basic household chores really aren’t that hard or even time consuming if you do them weekly. I can clean my place top to bottom in less than 2 hours. Women don’t want to ‘raise’ their partners, and if you as a grown ass man ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:30 PM
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So you can’t fathom the idea of being attracted to someone with a 10+ year age difference? Or someone who’s married? Or even gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:28 AM
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>Duties to a parter Be present/involved even during tough times? Loyalty? Making sure the household and relationship is functional? What do -you- think of when you think “duty?” The Grandpa/grandma comment means that men didn’t have to fulfill this laundry list of requirements to be considered for marriage, and the women of that offered more than a useless degree, a high N-count, a mountain of student loan debt, and an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I just stated that school/education is one …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:36 PM
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>Young Men especially conservative much have a stronger desire to get married than women. [This is wrong](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/its-a-mans-and-a-womans-world/201407/who-craves-relationships-more-men-or-women) >The rake thru the coal is mostly a manosphere hoax. It’s not hard to find personal stories of men stuck with alimony and/or child support -outside- of the manosphere. To pretend like the only reason that marriages are on the decline is because “women are choosing better,”…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:19 PM
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So you don’t honestly think that “matching morals/values” and “duty to your partner” are mutually exclusive? Marriage is declining for a multitude of reasons, including things like: - men seeing how other men have been rakes across the coals in divorce. - men “working twice as hard as your grandpa to get a woman half as good as your grandma” - people not being financially ready for marriage - prioritization of education and/or “having your fun.” - social media and dating apps making people feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:40 AM
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Being a sugar mom isn’t really a thing. Suicide rates Prison sentences “Never hit a woman” Even when you include rape, which is largely a woman-as-victim crime, men are 3x more likely to be victims of violent crime Put a man in a public space, crying. Put a woman in that same space, crying. See the reactions of people around them. Men are socially allowed to be either happy or stoic. Women can express their full range of emotions. “Body Positive” movement is strictly for fat women. It’s not for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:50 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:44 PM
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Your statistic is wrong. Your level of attraction does not determine what you find attractive. Let’s assume, however she’s the hottest girl I’ve been with, and I’m the ugliest man she’s been with. I’d say “doesn’t matter, she still let me smash.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:05 PM
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It’s on the same wavelength as women who want a man that has traditional values, but only insofar that he just pays the bills, and opens doors and such. He still needs to have -zero- household expectations of her, and let her conduct herself any way she sees fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:46 PM
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You can call it out all you want, but if you willfully misunderstand it, then you’re not accomplishing anything. comparing women to weapons Again with the willful misunderstanding. You’re completely missing the point of making an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:25 PM
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Yay, you have identified the acronym, but if you don’t understand the meaning then that’s a you problem. “All guns are loaded” is another heuristic, that you probably willingly misunderstand because you refuse to steelman any of the stuff you argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:39 PM
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Did I say “all women”? It doesn’t have to be an absolute in order to be a worsening trend. Also, you clearly don’t know what AWALT means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:40 PM
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As long as women of all shapes, sizes, and backgrounds continually tell on themselves, they’re not going to beat the allegations, and as long as degeneracy-promoting podcasts like “Call Her Daddy” are the most popular podcasts amongst women, things are not going to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:53 PM
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People don’t (or at least shouldn’t) stay stagnant their entire lives once they hit 18. Learning how to dress your age, and groom yourself, interact with people who don’t share your values/interests, etc. My friend group is full of people who have grown into functional adults that aren’t fat slobs with Cheeto dust on their hands. Not -anymore-. But they are still big nerds at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:36 PM
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I imagine most people here have never read “The Game” but in there they mentioned how you need to be the best version of yourself. You absolutely can make improvements to yourself without losing your identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:17 AM
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It’s more virtuous in the sense that it placates to women. BP is (or at least used to be) the conventional/classic courting strategies. RP is the so-called “truth” about dating and female nature because BP methods generally only work if she already has a degree of attraction. So RP is saying, “that shit doesn’t work for the AFC,” which is most single guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:29 PM
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The problem is that men see women that pair off with men that are obviously a bad fit, but they won’t listen. I was listening to a woman lament about a guy that beat her for 2 years. You’d think she would plan her exit after the first time he hit her, but apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:13 AM
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You realize that there is no full-proof advice that will make 100% of women successful 100% of the time, right? People will lie, manipulate, and be deceptive regardless of how thorough you try to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:56 PM
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Making your intentions clear (I want to be married and have kids in X timeframe of being serious with someone). Don’t let him get away with ambiguous answers to your questions. Holding off sex for a month or 2. Don’t shy away from the “adult” conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:27 PM
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Having a companion is great. At the -very- least, you have a consistent activity buddy. I’m currently in a “dink” relationship (less than a year), and it’s great to take care of each other, have someone to look forward to being around, share your gossip with, etc etc. If you’re on similar “wavelengths” there should be any game-playing or manipulation. However you’re not going to be perfectly in tune with every aspect of everything, so some degree of “management” will be necessary for the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:03 PM
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And those types are…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:57 PM
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Kids raising themselves isn’t specific to GenX. From what I’ve seen, it’s current economic factors that weigh on women which prevent them from wanting kids, not “it was hard for my parents.” Your homeless comment isn’t supported by any kind of data. I’m guessing that’s what you put in that “often ignored” caveat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:56 AM
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You have any links? Additionally I think these polls would be effective if they were -at least- broken into several age demographics, like every 5-10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:25 PM
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If you’re nearly 50, then your parents are likely boomers, so their reference of what I’m talking about is largely the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:22 PM
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Every decade had its problems, so I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:14 PM
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You don’t have to travel that far back. The 80s into the 2000s was that way. People worked, things were affordable, reproduction was at replacement levels, and we were at a point where the GDP actually had a surplus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:59 PM
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As usual, you completely missed the point of what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:04 PM
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Yes, because every Democrat, Muslim, Doctor, or Economist should think/act exactly like everyone else who claims the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:55 PM
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There’s a difference between the theories and the people applying those theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:50 PM
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You have to convince these supposed brutes that their behavior is wrong. Chances are that those kinds of men are highly disagreeable psychologically. And speaking of convincing…you’re coming from the assumption that “brute = bad” is a true statement to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:44 AM
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Most men that fall into RP spaces tend to be unsuccessful with women. One aspect to consider is that even if they don’t necessarily get more access to women, they at least are more privy to when they are getting strung along, friendzoned, or otherwise mistreated. RP went to shit once it went mainstream. Every dudebro with a camera phone and a ring-light started pumping out content. All the info these guys need can be found on the sidebar of TRP subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:00 AM
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Willingness to have one undesired experience for the sake of getting more money than you know what to do with? It’d be different if you said “that gay billionaire wants to marry you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:40 PM
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A lot of things are “based in religion,” even if we have found more secularly accepted ways to defend them (like half the stuff in the 10 commandments) Even if you expand it to “low N-count,” men find that more favorable. At best, having a high N-count is seen as “neutral” for men, and almost never a good thing. I personally think that the only times that men outwardly denigrate promiscuous behavior from women is when they are asked directly, it’s in the online sphere, or they have been somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:10 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. Valuing sex doesn’t have to be tied to religion. And you playing armchair therapist with your “cry for help” “you’re just jealous” shaming language isn’t working anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:37 PM
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It bores down to whose perspective you’re coming from. A virgin woman shaming another woman for her virginity is a double standard. There’s a difference between a virgin woman and virgin man though, because male virginity holds little to no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:22 PM
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It’s not a double standard though. Virgin women are sought after. Virgin men are made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:16 PM
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Ah yes, a cry for help. It couldn’t possibly be that they just have a different set of values. A lot of men actually like the fact that they lost their virginity to their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:13 PM
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On amazon, or a bookstore, or online? The same places where you can access Wikipedia, Grey’s Anatomy, or an instruction manual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:43 PM
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Credit cards are a tool just like TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:44 PM
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What about something like Credit Cards? Millions of people are in crippling debt because of their misuse of them, and there are a lot of scams involved, but the cards in and of themselves aren’t bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:30 PM
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I -do- think that if women aren’t sexually free, men would be in a similar situation seeing how men’s freedom is hinged upon their access to women. This is essentially the K in r / k selection theory, which I think would be better for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:07 PM
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Bear attacks are indeed rare and geographically limited. Most women (even the ones that hike/camp a lot) will never see a real bear outside of the zoo. Meanwhile they encounter men daily. Considering all the outdoorsy stuff I personally do, I’ve maybe seen I’ve seen maybe 10-15 bears in my lifetime. I see more men than that just going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:18 PM
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A better scenario is “if you were in the woods and 50 yards to your left you saw a bear and 50 yards to your right you saw a man.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:17 AM
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I’m just describing the phenomenon. I’m not saying it’s justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:31 AM
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In psychology there’s a term called term called “availability heuristic.” People judge how likely something is based on how easily they can imagine it. A woman can easily imagine a scary man scenario because she’s experienced creeps, catcalls, etc. She may not easily imagine a bear attack in detail, because she’s never been near one. So her hypothetical fears become emotionally lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:49 PM
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Probably because it’s used as a proxy for adulthood, and it’s also engrained into American culture. Why are you so fixated on that compared to the general topic of discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:50 PM
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It doesn’t, but saying “personality might be the problem,” is also bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:48 PM
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Or it could be the thousands of videos online where women talk about how they left perfectly good men because “something was missing,” and often times ended up with shitty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:53 PM
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There has been some messaging that even glancing at women was wrong but anyone with a brain disregarding that stuff. Lol. I remember the 5 minutes when feminists were trying to push “stare-rape” and “fart-rape.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:48 PM
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With a 30+ year age gap, you’re not her boyfriend. You’re her sponsor. I couldn’t imagine seriously dating someone too young to drink when I was in my late 20s/ early 30s. Best of luck to you two. With a gap that big, I’m -assuming- you’re well established in your career while she’s probably just starting college. I couldn’t imagine seeing her pay much more than holiday gifts and maybe ordering something for you when she’s on the way to your place. So yes, when you’re old enough to be her dad, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:23 PM
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When women purposely misunderstand what is being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:23 PM
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To each their own. Some people like vanilla while others like chocolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:49 AM
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There are thousands of men who will travel to places like Thailand and Mexico with the primary goal of fucking a bunch of sex workers. Rub & Tug massage parlors are all over the county. Some dudes just would rather not deal with the hassle of bar/club hopping and -maybe- going home with a girl, this goes especially if they lack things like, social skills, physical appearance or basic hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:33 AM
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I’m pretty sure both of them had been established as heartthrobs before their sexuality came out. Additionally, I’m sure most women have no interest in witnessing them have sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:07 PM
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The comment I responded to literally said “we're constantly lectured by the media that women have to do more ‘emotional labor’ in relationships.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:26 PM
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Yeah, I reject those emotional labor narratives. The term “emotional tampon” is something that was coined in the manosphere regarding how men have to do their share of emotional labor. Moreover, the media isn’t going to tell me how I conduct myself in my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:13 AM
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That’s their fault for not setting any sort of expectations for their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:34 AM
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You do have to show some give-a-fuck about the relationship, yes. Are you just expecting to work, stay home, have deep conversations, and fuck? Women want to have experiences and do stuff. Both men and women want their partner to do things that say “you’re special to me” or at least “you’re more than just a friend/roommate.” As a man, I hope you’re holding these women to some kind of standard of nurturing the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:00 AM
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You say that as if [arguably] the most powerful man on the planet wasn’t 1/2 an inch from being killed by some motivated rando.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:56 PM
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How are they rights without mechanisms in place to enforce them? Also, rights are not the same on a global scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:40 PM
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Have you looked at less developed countries and how they treat their women? I was watching a street interview in DRC where the man was talking to a few dudes about rape. They were openly talking about how they were more concerned with catching AIDS from the woman than the fact that they would be raping her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:00 PM
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Neither? I’m not even sure what you’re referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:58 AM
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Yeah, it’s possible because men allowed for it. Look at things like voting, owning property, higher education, and all the other things that feminists protested for. All of those things came to fruition because they got men’s approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:26 AM
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Perhaps, but he would still be more successful than large swaths of above average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:09 AM
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We will never have true gender equality so long as there is sexual dimorphism. Women en masse cannot overpower men. Therefore they cannot meaningfully defend the rights/privilege we all pretend like they have. They have to ask men for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:58 AM
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You say that like it’s an inherently bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:31 AM
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Hang ups like what? Being willing to sleep with a lot of men doesn’t mean you know how to navigate the world. This is quite the low effort pulled-out-of-my-ass comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:52 AM
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It’s funny how for men it’s supposed to be “common sense,” just like how when women talk about having a job/car/home it’s dismissed as “being an adult.” However I think that there are much better laid plans for adulting than there are for attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:44 AM
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The consensus I’ve seen from the manosphere is that men basically are looking for a 7/10 that hasn’t been ran through, and is pleasant to be around. -Hopefully- she has some degree of culinary skill as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:29 PM
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Your story sounds like what Tupac was talking about when he was 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:25 AM
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Whether she just wants some dial-a-dick or she wants a long term relationship, you’re still going to want to be desired. In my dating experience, I will give women a little grace in terms of their “anti-slut defense.” I imagine that the 3[ish] date rule is still in place for most men. Personally, the longest I will wait is a month. As far as paying for it, if a man is cool with not having some kind of connection and all the extra rules involved with being with a sex worker, then more power to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:20 AM
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Don’t forget “don’t stick your dick in crazy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:05 PM
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This carries about the same weight as “men can do onlyfans too.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:54 AM
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I don’t disagree with any of that. The point I’m mostly getting at is that men’s reckless sexual behavior is looked much differently than women’s. Bonnie blue’s fame is essentially a punchline. There aren’t a lot of women celebrities that are known whores. They know that shit destroys their reputation, and women who came into fame via sex work don’t have longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:19 AM
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No LGBT communities or socially oriented groups like feminism and even men who aren't deemed as successful get a huge backlash if they attempt to do so I don’t really hang out in GayBC spaces, but a lot of what you speak of is just conflict avoidance, and nothing to do with socioeconomic background. In Dating : Be it in social media , personal experiences or people sharing their stories. It's always the female friend or a woman in general who call out female cheaters , lazy wives or entitled gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:25 AM
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Interesting examples, seeing how 2 of them had leaked sex tapes, but weren’t exactly pornstars. Female pornstars largely either stay single, get with men in the industry, or fall into complete obscurity before they try to have some semblance of a meaningful relationship. Meanwhile, the men I mentioned (and men like them) can stay in the limelight and continue to sire more children. You’d think these women would be wise enough to look at these dudes around their 4th or 5th kid and think “maybe ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:10 AM
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I guess I should have known better. You’re not exactly one to argue in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:09 PM
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Men set the standard for what they like in women. Women set the standard for what they like in men. The body count discussion has been done to death, and no amount of shaming is going to change the fact that the majority of men don’t to take a whore seriously. Meanwhile, women have shown time and time again that a man having a high body count/multiple illegitimate kids isn’t a dealbreaker (looking at people like Nick Cannon, DMX, and NBA Youngboy)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:44 PM
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AWALT (literally All Women Are Like That) It’s a heuristic. It’s the same line of thinking as “all guns are loaded.” believe women are more fickle, hypocritical, less truthworthy, so less reasons to respect them. Not that they are -more- of those traits than men, but that they do indeed embody those traits. It’s part of “knocking the pussy off the pedestal.” Some men are so captivated by their interactions with women that they lose sight of the fact that women are human, and have all the flaws t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:20 PM
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If she’s been with 50 men, and cheated on several of them, do you want to bank that your “alphaness” is going to get her to stop at 51? Sometimes “it’s not you, it’s me” really is the truth. It’s entirely possible that she may want to discontinue her behavior for you because she “sees something in you” that makes her want to change. It’s also possible that a low-N girl will cheat on you. Every whore has had her first experience. That said, which scenario sounds like a better bet for something th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:55 AM
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Obviously. Being able to socialize is the starting point. You can’t “escalate” if you can’t even talk to them and hold their interest in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:12 PM
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I agree. And, assuming you’ve hit your other wickets, women are more forgiving of the awkward dude if he has looks, money, and/or status. I’ve watched videos of people like Kai Cenat talking to women that were embarrassing to watch, but women were willing to tolerate them because of the power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:13 AM
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The “socialize” part is the biggest issue. It’s the “don’t be unattractive” part of the old saying. Being in great shape and having your shit together is great, but if you suck at talking to women, you’ll fall on your face…a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:00 PM
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Interpersonal compatibility is paramount to the success of the relationship. I don’t care how rich/stable/intelligent you are. If we don’t get along with each other, the relationship will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:52 PM
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Slightly change the scenario and it falls apart. Instead of “In the woods” change it to “stuck in an elevator.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:23 PM
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No, because your argument can’t be substantiated based on the actual data. You’re basically trying to argue that grass is red and your evidence is a football game you saw where the end zones were painted red. There is no “men are wonderful” effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:52 PM
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Women are wonderful literally has a wiki page while there’s no counterpart for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:45 PM
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And that 40% = millions, like I stated And again, the reasons you mentioned aren’t exactly the ones that are on these women’s minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:47 PM
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“Life isn’t tinder” More than half of couples in this day and age have met online or through an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:31 PM
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Having more to lose and lack or orgasms still isn’t enough to keep millions of women from engaging in hook-up culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:03 PM
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The whole concept of Tinder was for hooking up, and it still very much gets utilized in such a way. There -are- women who are looking for just sex (even if it’s just their hoe phases), but there aren’t an abundance of them compared to the men who are seeking the same. Those women likely aren’t trying to hook up with average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:02 PM
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Some dudes just want to get laid, and they have to be manipulative about it. Women love to ask “why can’t men just be honest with their intentions?” Being honest is going to fail 999 times out of 1000, because most men aren’t attractive enough to get away with telling a woman that he just wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:40 PM
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So the responsibility to "reward" sex partners who "deserve" it is a moral responsibility that only women have ? I never made any claim about morality, and I never said anything about men not having any responsibilities. Try to tone down your projections. As far as I'm aware men aren't blamed for putting their dick in crazy. “Don’t stick your dick in crazy” is literally the mantra. What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:15 AM
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That’s not what he’s saying, and you know it. You can enjoy sex and -not- seek it out from shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:34 AM
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“Poor decisions” is a broad term. For instance, there’s a big difference between “I went to college for a degree that I don’t use as an adult” and “I went drunk driving and caused an accident that killed someone.” Just hand-waiving it like “herp derp, we all do dumb shit” is intellectually lazy at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:23 PM
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Being on PPD (or Reddit in general) is a lot of mental masturbation, and yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:04 PM
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Knowing what to do vs applying what you know. I just watch this video of a mom ranting about her husband of 16 years that she can’t get him to consistently take out the trash. You’d think after years of complaining & reminders that he would just do the damn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:01 PM
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Jealousy? Alright 2 things: Let’s take an LTR-minded man, and he meets a woman with a 100 N-count that likes him, what reassurance does he have that she will stop with him? If a man indeed IS jealous, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:14 PM
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I dunno why. It seems like pretty basic information. For example, EVERYONE knows that “diet and exercise” is how you get into better shape. Yet America is the fattest country on the planet, consuming gobs of processed bullshit and sitting on our couches scrolling our lives away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:13 PM
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Knowing how things work doesn’t mean you’re going to do anything about it. Plenty of RP aware men are still lazy bums that can’t be arsed to do basic shit like daily hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:00 PM
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I think part of the “good father” role in this day and age means there has to be a pretty hefty restriction of screen time/social media. A myriad of problems with boys (and girls) can be directly linked to that. Tiktok is littered with teachers complaining about how kids have no attention spans, lack of comprehension skills, being violent when their devices are taken away, lack of socialization, etc. Said teachers can also immediately tell who the “screenagers” are and who aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:23 PM
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From my personal experience? No. I’ve consistently gotten more emotional support from women than from men. I -will- say that on the whole, I think women’s reactions to vulnerable men after the fact is much more dysfunctional. She will console you in the moment, but may or may not hold that shit against you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:07 PM
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It doesn’t help that men are socialized to suppress their emotions, while women aren’t, so you’ll often deal with a mismatch of emotional skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:55 PM
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Men’s self help is about taking control of your situation. Discipline, responsibility, becoming more formidable. Women’s self help is about self acceptance. Emotional awareness, setting boundaries, and rejecting unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:16 PM
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No. What is stupid is that you’re tying a man’s value to his capacity to get laid. Maybe you should consider not being a slave to your libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:37 PM
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Sure, you can even argue that “Going Galt” predates that, seeing how the book ‘Atlas Shrugged’ was published in 1957. Plenty of people want to just live off the land in their quiet solitude. I wouldn’t necessarily conflate “the MGTOW dream” with abandoning all of civilization though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:15 PM
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The world doesn’t revolve around what you specifically see/hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:10 PM
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Again, you can be valued for things beyond your capacity to get laid. I’m sure people like Jobs, Musk, Gates, or Zuckerberg would still be highly respected in their fields if they were still virgins. Nick Fuentes, for all negative hype surrounding him, still has over 600k followers on Rumble, and videos where he is interviewed in YouTube consistently get over 1M views.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:09 PM
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Ummm…thank you for your contribution to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:44 PM
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What about trans men? Or women who have had a hysterectomy? Are their opinions no longer valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:28 PM
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“And the last 40%” aka stats you pulled out of your ass. Also, marriage as a whole has been on the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:03 PM
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Talking about the ideas specifically that are being put forth, not necessarily the people who wield them. One thing that Stardusk/Thinking Ape (and several other MGTOW figureheads) has mentioned is that eventually you need to stop bitching about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:00 PM
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Typical “can’t get laid” shaming language. So progressive of you. Let’s say a bunch of these men are indeed virgins, or they can’t get laid. So what??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:57 PM
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I counter that with “Trans women are women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:49 PM
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It’s not hard to find people who would say RP as a whole is misogynist, and it has grown -a lot- in the past decade. I’d say the isolationist aspect of MGTOW is what was largely its downfall. Men still want to be social, even with women with whom they may have a “healthy” level of skepticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:49 PM
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RP/manosphere ideology USED to have “first rule of fight club” as one of its core tenants, but then with YouTube monetization, and the rise of PUAs it was bound to become more popular. Maybe you can’t draw a direct link specifically to MGTOW, but the things they have been saying for over a decade have certainly come to hr forefront. “RP truths” have are observed by MGTOW, PUA, MRAs all alike. MGTOW abandon the system, PUAs maneuver within it, and MRAs try to change it to make it more fair for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:35 PM
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“Average at best” by whatever skewed metrics of male beauty you’re using, I’m sure. Social skills and status matter too. Additionally, an “average” guy is pretty remarkable if he’s around a bunch of losers. Looking at a lot of women’s exes, being inconsiderate doesn’t preclude men from getting laid. If anything it seems more like positive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:06 AM
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The classic “don’t ask a fish how to fish.” Most of the attempts at advice I’ve seen on Reddit bore down to “you’re a misogynistic basement dweller. If just you stopped that, you would get all the pussy you’d want.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:23 AM
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People sell things that they need all the time…like food/water. You can easily drink water out of the faucet, but millions of people elect to drink bottled water. Nobody is required to eat at a high end restaurant, but those said restaurants still stay in business and attract a more affluent level of clientele. The staff/owners still need to eat as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:58 PM
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This reminds me of a quote I read somewhere. “The only thing you are entitled to is a lonely and miserable death. The rest is on you.” It’s essentially the “extreme ownership” that Jocko would preach. Taking accountability of your existence and stop playing the victim card because of some of your circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:42 PM
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Women don’t -have- to deal with those issues either. Plenty of women aren’t using any contraceptive medication because of the side effects, and plenty of women don’t want children. If you’re just going to ignore social privileges women have altogether, then you can’t a meaningful discussion about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:40 AM
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As long as you need men to actually -enforce- policies that are in place, patriarchy will always be a thing. There is no dismantling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:18 PM
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Translation: men have learned the language of feminism, and have become better at calling out women’s bullshit and holding them accountable. Sounds like a good step in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:06 AM
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Casual Sex movement? Who were some prominent figures? What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:10 PM
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what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:08 PM
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The feminist and “free love” movements weren’t exactly championed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:12 PM
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Not really? A man will have a set of expectations in what makes a marriageable woman. If he comes across women who don’t embody those expectations, he will likely still date/fuck them, but not marry them. Men will put more effort into keeping women they aren’t apathetic about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:10 PM
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I’m not saying men would just quit -wanting- it. They can “want” all day, but if women collectively said “nope,” then it’s not going to happen, and men would have to adopt a new strategy. And yes, the genie indeed IS out of the bottle. I’m not trying to say that we should have marriages at 18 though, or that marriage/purity is some sort of fix. I AM saying that this “sex first, relationship second” format of dating isn’t working. And just saying “well, I was horny” isn’t an excuse for dysfunctio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:05 PM
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There will always be bad actors. I’m talking about men that aren’t trying to find ways to exploit the “system.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:53 PM
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He may be -conventionally- ugly, but may still be her type. I have a girl buddy who is a very cute “sorority girl” type, and all the guys I’ve ever her date look like cousin-fucking trailer trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:13 PM
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The difference with the “good to marry” women is that men aren’t making those women jump through a bunch of extra hoops for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:52 PM
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Ok? And? Some women are also lesbians and don’t need a trusted male figure in that capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:37 PM
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Like I said, if women -collectively- changed their behavior (which will probably never happen), men would follow along. In this current society, where the next girl is a “swipe” away, there’s much less incentive for men to follow along.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:33 PM
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80 years compared to the full span of human existence. Also, some of those women never made to becoming grannies because they died of AIDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:26 PM
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This is why there was a courting process, and men had to do things like meet the father/uncle/brothers. It USED TO be that you established a relationship before sexy time. Now it’s the “3 date rule.” Men largely fall in line with women’s collective behavior. If women want to be “liberated” (see: degenerate), then men will conform as such. When it’s a culture of partying, and fucking within hours/days of knowing each other, it’s not a very good foundation for finding LTR-minded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:21 AM
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ChatGPT’s explanation Big picture finding • Women show stronger in-group bias toward women • Men show weaker or sometimes no in-group bias toward men This is one of the more robust findings in social psychology and appears across many cultures. ⸻ How it shows up Women • More likely to: • Prefer other women as collaborators • Trust women more than men in ambiguous situations • Support women as a group, even when individual competition exists • Women often display automatic in-group favoritism, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:59 AM
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Sportball is different than a life or death struggle. I assure you there are way more stories of women lifting cars off of babies, etc. than men. "Sportball" is just being used as a proxy for physical ability. How about Boxing or MMA? Also Hysterical Strength isn't a gendered thing, and mostly comes from hearsay. Men get raped by women, men get sexually assaulted by women, men get murdered by women (not just poisoning which is a sexist stereotype) then get mugged by women but it isn't reported a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:03 AM
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You remember when the US women’s soccer team lost to a team of high school boys under the age of 15? You clearly underestimate how wide the gap is between male and female strength, and the role testosterone plays.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:51 AM
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If you want to talk about passive fear, consider the fact that the average 15-16 year old boy that’s on a sports team is capable of overpowering most women of any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:14 PM
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I wouldn’t conflate avoidance with hatred. Out of all the online “don’t date single moms” content I’ve seen, I wouldn’t say any of it was hateful. It’s the same line of thinking as “don’t do drugs,” or “don’t spend all your money on DoorDash.” I know some awesome women who are single moms. That doesn’t mean I would want to get into a serious relationship with them. As Richard Cooper says, “stop overcomplicating your life and trying to justify why.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:51 AM
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You say that like MRAs aren’t a thing. Male-centric spaces always get demonized and/or infiltrated by women. There’s an assumption of misogyny from the get-go, so women and “feminist allies” have to monitor our conduct to make sure we are doing it “right.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:50 PM
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They donny acknowledge the problem of creating kids they dont want. They dont acknowledge the problem of men not affording child support so then our taxes become the child support. They dont acknowledge how little men do to help each other out. They dont acknowledge the belief "Women are the selectors of sex" actually helps female sex offenders get away with victimizing males of all ages. All of this has been addressed before extensively in the red pill and the greater manosphere. You not readin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:46 PM
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P.U.A. Men don’t have to lie/manipulate to be a PUA. Also, men can’t even get to the point where they have that option if they are have no social skills. Then why are they blaming single moms and feminism for everything? They don’t Acknowledging a problem still requires you to know how to deal with it. They dont. They just pivot to Chads and sigmas. Clearly you don’t even read any RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:14 AM
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Especially when you also have to disarm the DUFF (Designated Ugly Fat Friend), because all she’s going to do is cock block.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:25 AM
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Manipulation and lying has nothing to do with relationship skills. Good thing I didn’t mention either of those things. Their main appeal is bitching about feminism being the problem. If they cared this much about personal responsibility, why do so many of them talk about single moms being responsible for criminals? They talk about personal responsibility and self improvement all the time. Clearly you ignore those discussions. Most people will never achieve that and the redpill is filled with guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:43 PM
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Relationship skills leads to sexual access. The PUA forums, which is pretty much exclusively about getting sex, emphasize not being a social Neanderthal if you’re trying to attract women and eventually get them into bed. It probably will “feel wrong” if a man just wants sex, but isn’t attractive enough to get that kind of energy out of women. He will have to take things more slowly, and abide by the 3 date (or however many) rule. TRP continually talks about how the average man is a slob. Cleanin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:29 PM
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The man did not engage in any conduct that placed his son’s life in his hands. Also, refusing to donate is passively allowing someone to die while abortion is actively killing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:52 PM
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Thousands of people had shitty upbringings and still turned into upstanding citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:43 PM
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Nobody is actively trying to get cavities, or get into auto/motorcycle accidents. All of these are inherently bad outcomes. Our bodies are literally designed to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:39 PM
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I’d feel like I was part of her self-improvement project. It would be along similar lines of thinking as AF/BB. I’m not trying to be someone that she has to convince herself to like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:53 PM
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Interesting how the only things you can think of that “girls do with their friends” is shopping and mani/pedis
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:50 PM
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Yes the focus may shift, but there will still be “girls nights” or “guys nights,” not “I’m gonna go hang out with my [opposite sex] bestie without you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:48 PM
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Yeah, YOU do those things [or at least you claim to], but many women don’t not. Things are more one sided. Example: Jack has a boat, and goes out on the lake a couple times a month. His girl “friend,” Jill, will try to tag along for the experience. She knows nothing meaningful about Jack, barely talks to him, and her way of reciprocating is that she brought a 12 pack of beers on the trip. Jill never invites Jack to any of her future outings, and generally makes minimal effort to nurture the rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:39 PM
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There’s a difference between being friends and being in the friend zone. If you’re in the friend zone, you want more than just a friendship. A lot of women don’t know how to be legitimate friends with men, and basically just use them as a sort of boyfriend-lite for random labor/skills or for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:08 AM
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As the saying goes, “don’t ask a fish how to catch a fish. Ask the fisherman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:38 AM
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Blatantly prejudiced? Lol. It’s one simple example of how people will only go so far to defend their beliefs. It’s easy to debate someone at a coffee shop. It’s another when your life/well being is put on the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:58 PM
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I’m sure you could take the same 5 seconds to find stories of “man bites dog” too. Finding a few exceptions doesn’t disprove the axiom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:14 AM
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Women are pretty quick to jump back into their gender roles in those scenarios that you mentioned. As the saying goes, there’s no feminist in a burning building. The phrase originated from the Birkenhead Disaster, and has just been one of those parts of history that still carries weight today. In this day and age. I personally recommend that no man abide by such mantra unless they are talking about their own loved ones. I’m not putting my life on the line for some random stranger because simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:51 PM
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A LOT of things were different 75 years ago, but go on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:35 AM
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The two things about this happier single thing. How old were they when they were being asked about their happiness? People, generally are unhappier if they are in their 40s-50s and they are “unpartnered.” This whole thing flies in the face of how many women are on some kind of psych med. I really question their happiness regardless of their relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:37 AM
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This is bullshit. The when women/feminist fight for issues on men’s behalf, it’s largely just lip service.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:13 AM
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This also includes trans people who are literally sterilizing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:46 AM
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You keep framing this as realism, but what you’re really defending is indifference. I care about what happens to men who don’t “make it”. You don’t seem to think they matter much. That’s the difference. The real world puts things into hierarchies all the time. I’m -so- glad you’re willing to [at least claim to] help the male losers of the world. Like I said before, a significant portion of them have no desire or motivation to better themselves, and society largely isn’t going to help drag those …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:50 PM
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Name 3
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:44 AM
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You’ve said hierarchies are inevitable, that they necessarily create losers and that the goal for men is to “get out of the bottom”. But if that’s true, then someone else has to replace them at the bottom Ok and? There will always be more ditch diggers than C-suite executives. There will also always be people who are motivated to improve themselves while there are those who are complacent with their existence. Hierarchies will establish themselves regardless of patriarchal influence. There’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:21 AM
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This is exactly the point though: red pill isn’t challenging patriarchy, it’s upholding it. The patriarchy upholds itself, and it will never be dismantled as long as we live in a society that needs strong men with a capacity for violence to maintain order. Notice how the explanation always keeps shifting depending on what’s convenient. When winning seems possible it’s about power, strategy and “playing the game”. When losing happens suddenly it’s “genetics, height, jawlines, biology…” things tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:50 PM
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I think most modern parents aren’t even looking at the social landscape like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:53 AM
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Until women as a collective raise their standards for the behaviors they tolerate, they will largely be obligated to conform to whatever degenerate standard we are in. Building rosters, fucking after 2-3 dates, having these “what are we” conversations, situationships, etc. are the norm. Why should I take Becky out in a formal date when Stacy will suck me off after some beers and convo at the bar I just met her at?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:39 AM
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Just look up the YouTuber Wheat Waffles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:18 AM
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at with your marital rape comment. Laws change over time. In 2025, it’s not legal in all 50 states. Your “12 year olds” comment is disingenuous. It’s not like some 35 year olds dude can just convince the parents. The older party can’t be more than 4 years older. Those states don’t count fingers or random objects a specifically “rape,” but they would still fall under sexual assault, which is still a felony. You frame it like it’s just no big deal in those states. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:19 PM
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I don’t know what country you’re from, but in America, there is indeed a legal definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:30 AM
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The legal definition is literally “non-consensual sexual penetration.” Which is still sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:59 AM
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No. I’m not, and you’re being disingenuous to draw that conclusion from what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:27 AM
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I’m sure there are plenty of women who were formerly sex workers (trafficked or not) that may indeed have ended up as well adjusted members of society. It’s not my duty to try to get into a relationship with them, and see for myself. Women reject men all the time over things as innocuous as height. Men can (and should) use plenty of discernment with who they try to pair off with. The level of “baggage” each man is willing to tolerate is entirely up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:19 PM
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If you were to look up #StopSimping on random social media platform, you’re going to see a bunch of men that are bending over backwards for women who would never return that same sort of effort. It’s the meme of the neckbeard with a fedora that’s protecting “m’lady.” Not really sure why you’re talking about pickme’s, but I will say that men actually defend pickme’s. Women don’t defend simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:02 PM
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If there is no reciprocation, then it’s simping. The only exception is if the other person is incapable of reciprocation, in which case, you’re being charitable. And before you say “if you’re expecting reciprocation you’re doing it wrong,” just acknowledge that there are users and doormats in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:33 PM
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“If you were -actually- nice, you wouldnt have to call yourself a nice guy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:55 PM
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This is so aggravating. I live close to the Mexican border, so I see a lot of short kings, and thankfully for them, they have no problem pulling women. Glad you’re out there making moves regardless of the vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:39 PM
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You’re really trying to use the 9 month span in uteri as your litmus test for male to female consumption? And what does this have to do with hypergamy?? I also refuse to believe that you have come across an abundance of men with millionaire wives that aren’t even richer than said wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:55 PM
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Men really don’t. For him to be able to go that route, he’d have to first get custody. The women who are trying to give up their baby shortly after pushing it out are few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:19 AM
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And we get shamed for even saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:15 AM
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The analogy also ignores that safe haven laws exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:30 AM
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Look at Matt Timmons after he lost weight. Matthew Lewis after he got his teeth fixed (and admittedly, hit puberty). Jonah hill WAS going in the right direction until he overcorrected. He went from the fat kid from Superbad to looking presentable to looking homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:21 PM
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Bad skin, bad hair, snaggletooth, out of shape and poorly dressed man can likely go from a 4 to a 7-8 depending on his facial structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:49 PM
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Not trying to satisfy the paywall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:11 PM
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I highly recommend not marrying someone in -hopes- that they will engage in certain behaviors after they’ve essentially gotten what they wanted out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:59 PM
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You should read the link. These things actually have meaning in the psych world, and it’s not “just blindly agreeing with people.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:50 PM
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Status is popularity and/or power. If you’re the instructor of the yoga she always goes to or you’re the quarterback at her school’s football team, you have status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:51 PM
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Or at least, he’s some broke loser that is exploiting a hard working woman for her wealth. When I think “hobosexual,” I think someone (usually a woman) that is dating someone because they need a place to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:22 AM
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You’re the one who used the word girl not woman Girl, woman, chick, female…these words are often used interchangeably, and you’re trying to give weight to something that they probably didn’t give second thought to. More men think women are gold diggers for liking money There’s a difference in liking money and what money brings…and chasing after a man because of his money. Than women think men are pedophiles for finding college women attractive By definition, being a pedophile is attraction to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:18 AM
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What “normal female behavior” are you talking about? Or are we just talking about attraction? Pathologizing??? If a man doesn’t want to date a big woman, he’s called fatphobic. If he wants to date younger, he’s creepy or a pedophile. If he wants a different race, he’s fetishizing her If he wants an older woman, he’s has mommy issues. If he wants a traditional woman, he’s oppressive and controlling If he doesn’t want to date a woman with a high N-count or who has mostly guy friends, he’s insecure…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:59 AM
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Ultimately EQ is an attempt to take well established concepts in psychology and meld them together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:39 AM
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Being “emotionally intelligent” essentially means that you are high in Agreeableness with regard to the big 5 personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:27 PM
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I have been in relationships where my sense of urgency is different from theirs too. I would rather do my daily tidying up right before bed, while I’ve dated girls that want it done when they notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:13 PM
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The bulk of the stats I ever see that show women being the predominant breadwinners are ones where they are factoring in single mother households. Women largely choose to marry men who make more than them. Women also largely choose work/life balance and benefits over just a bigger check.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:47 PM
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There’s definitely something to be said about standards. A man does a task, and his wife does it again because it’s not to her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:44 PM
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The “semi normal” gender roles would work if women actually played their role. If she’s working, however, then she’s contributing to the household expenses as far as I’m concerned. I would not tolerate this “his money is OURS and my money is MINE” mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:49 AM
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How many death threats from famous people have you actually read? How do -you- know if they were from women/feminist or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:00 PM
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You clearly haven’t been following RP content very long (if at all) if you think it was never about self improvement. The So Suave forums, university of man, Dalrock, Just4Guys, Chateau Hertiste, etc all had stuff about being better. You are probably going to have to go to several different sources to get all the information you seek. I would go to my doctor about my health, but I wouldn’t ask him about my sense of fashion. I wouldn’t come to a nutritionist asking about my investment portfolio. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:56 AM
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This is what I found
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:47 AM
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With CRS and FATCA being in place, the whole “offshore bank accounts” idea hasn’t been a thing for about a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:30 AM
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There are way too many moms who are single before the child is even born to give ”vibes” any merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:36 AM
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Do you honestly think these high N women have enough discernment to know that the men they are looking for are good men…or that they are screening for that in the first place? Top % men is predominantly from looks/money/status. You can be a rich, famous/connected, attractive man and still be a shitty person. And chances are that she’s not even looking for all 3 in the same person. Star player on the college football team has status, but no money (yet) and he may or may not have looks. He’s still…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:39 AM
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Interestingly, I think men would be more opposed to this than women. Men are still the ones “who can’t commit.” Either way. Forcing people to commingle for the sake of progeny is archaic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:22 AM
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Two things can be true at the same time. Women need to recalibrate what they think they can reasonably get relative to what they offer, and men need to stop simping over mediocre/subpar women that just so happen to have won the generic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:02 AM
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You could apply your same logic to complaining about being single as a man. So what’s your point? All I’m saying is that while women aren’t complaining about being single in and of itself (which they are, it’s just not on PPD), they have other annoying complaints about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:25 PM
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Did I argue that men aren’t on their posting their grievances? Read what I wrote again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:08 PM
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Yeah, and I’ve never seen an episode of Stranger Things. Just because you don’t see it (or choose to ignore it) doesn’t mean it’s not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:06 PM
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Probably for the same reason that men “complaining about being single on this subreddit 24/7” bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:30 PM
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No, they’re just the ones complaining that there are “no good men,” while lacking enough introspection to see that they aren’t anything special themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:04 PM
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I have…it’s nowhere near 70-80%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:34 AM
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“Something something women actually go to file, but they aren’t the root cause of divorce” You know, because men obviously are too lazy to fill out paperwork or some shit. It couldn’t be that women have more incentive to break the marriage contract
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:29 AM
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You don’t have to risk death to look desirable. He wouldn’t have been chiseled like he was if he wasn’t on gear, and it would have taken a bit longer to get big, but…he also wouldn’t be dead either. 2-3 years of dedication will give any man a pretty amazing figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:31 PM
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That doesn’t discredit what I’m saying. I don’t watch soccer, and none of my friends watch it either. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s the most popular sport in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:51 AM
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You can find days upon days worth of women lamenting about this stuff on various social media platforms (especially TikTok). So no, they aren’t just quietly getting in with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:01 PM
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As Rollo would say. “If he’s not your boyfriend, then he’s your girlfriend.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:55 AM
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More like: Rule 2: don’t fuck up the initial attraction by saying/doing something off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:11 AM
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Childless women under 30 is a pretty large demographic, and considering this growing trend of women remaining childfree, the “under 30 part” will probably stop being a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:11 AM
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Childless women under 30 tend to out earn their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:46 AM
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You could read “the myth of male power” by Warren Farrell. He was a former board member of the National Organization for Women. As far as other figures, you could look at Karen Staughn aka GirlWritesWhat, Erin Pizzey, Christina Hoff Summers, and Paul Elam, one of the founders for “A voice for men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:38 AM
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Yup, it’s crazy how many AFCs don’t even have the basics figured out when it comes to interacting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:56 AM
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Once you get your dick in check, you realize the compensation isn’t exactly commensurate. If y’all are banging it out often, there’s reason to believe that she actually likes fucking you, and not doing it out of a sense of duty. So, she gets the sex she wants AND someone to stabilize her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:42 AM
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It’s possible to be concerned about multiple aspects of men’s issues. Also, nice red herring. At the end of the day, PPD is about relationship stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:27 PM
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People keep referencing these studies in their arguments, but nobody has actually posted it yet, and a lot of assumptions are being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:53 PM
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So…how about Chris Hemsworth and Carrot Top?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:52 AM
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Interesting how the 3 things you mentioned disproportionally affect men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:45 PM
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Mid men attracting amazing women? I’m sure your personal metrics are inflating women and deflating men. You’re probably seeing extra-regular women dating extra-regular men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:59 AM
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“Dislike” is the wrong word. It’s more of an “apathy.” Bottom 50 men are invisible to women. This is like RP 101
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:36 AM
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This is still a patriarchal society, and that will never change. The more educated the couple, the more likely the household chores are eventually divided. Regardless of all that, if you have an issue with the division of household labor, TALK TO YOUR PARTNER. Different households want to abide by different dynamics. One of my previous relationships, I did all the chores and ran all the errands except cooking. I worked, and got home by about 3. She worked, went to school, and had homework, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:05 AM
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Then tell that to the women who will still go after these men knowing full well that they exhibit such behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 09:22 PM
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Nice guys are fine as long as they “stay in their place.” They are to expected to be readily available for random labor, and the most they should expect is some pizza delivery, an awkward side-hug and a “we should hang out sometime” that never happens. Losers get to the luxury of following her on her social media and having their messages/DMs ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:28 PM
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I told you what I wanted. Here’s my claim again. Please explain why you, “your fiancé and most of your guy friends” disagree with it. Prolonged exposure to someone (work/school) gives you opportunity to appreciate someone who you might have written off otherwise. This isn’t a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:49 PM
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Here you go though, some of the women on the list looked much better at the time the relationship began, and I would hope male celebrities aren’t all adopting Leonardo Di Caprio’s dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:58 PM
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One of Roissy’s most notable articles comes to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:46 AM
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How about you give some kind of a counter to my claim other than, “these supposed people that i can’t verify disagree with you”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:27 AM
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Your examples reinforce what stated, not disprove them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:25 AM
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“Most of my guy friends.” So not all of them and how many are we talking 3? 30? 300?. Also, I doubt you took the time to survey all of your guy friends about this particular discussion topic. Even if you did, there’s a lot more world out there than your little social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:28 PM
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I know my share of men that will. There are plenty celebrity men who have wives who are pretty unremarkable. Prolonged exposure to someone (work/school) gives you opportunity to appreciate someone who you might have written off otherwise. This isn’t a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:19 AM
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How does “not all men are bad” translate to “most men are bad” He said he has zero confidence. That’s different from women’s rate of picking non-bad men being zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:57 AM
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If she goes so far as to date and then marry him, then she sees qualities in him that are a net positive beyond just what he looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:36 AM
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Violence by proxy is a legitimate thing, and women use it all the time. There have been plenty of videos where a woman is being violent towards a man, and all the bystanders essentially are watching and doing nothing until he decides to defend himself. The “silver bullet” in court custody cases was calling the dad a child molester. I am told that men in prison with charges of things like rape or spousal abuse get treated the worst by the other inmates, but I can’t confirm that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:23 PM
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Except for all those lopsided divorces where not only does the man get kicked out of the house, but he’s also expected to pay for alimony and/or child support
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:21 AM
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Right….becuse “cheaper to keep her” is just about filling out paperwork. Women are much more incentivized to get divorced than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:04 AM
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Saying “women do X” is not the same as saying “women created/invented/discovered X.” And even in this day and age, the top minds in just about every field you can think of is still dominated by men. And men barring women/girls from education just reinforces the whole Force Doctrine discussion. And if you think women are just slaving away while men just sit around navel gazing, then you’re sorely misinformed. From the 1700s-1900s men were working 10-16 hours a day, 6 days a week. Physical labor, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:36 AM
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Science, mathematics, philosophy, government, music, infrastructure, medicine. And apparently we were also able to do all that WHILE oppressing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:30 PM
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Yes. And it’s delusional to think that “the one” is going to be encompass all my specific criteria, live with 25ish miles of me wherever I end up when I’m ready to find them, and also be ready for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:12 AM
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Or…I’m going to say “it takes 2,” like any sane person. “Who created them” is a moot point. I thought we were talking about being “better off.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:08 AM
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Seeing how all the building blocks of modern civilization were created almost solely by men, I completely disagree that women would be “better off.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:38 AM
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You’re missing the key point of Andrew’s argument. Those rights don’t exist without someone to be able to enforce them. Women, by and large, are powerless to enforce their own rights. They have to rely on men. And to “dismantle the patriarchy” and replace it with some sort of non-patriarchy would again require men to enforce the new policies/standards put in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:49 AM
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Well, according to the statistics that the people on this subreddit pulled out of their collective asses, 95% of the dudes in are on the spectrum, so it’s kinda hard for them to be “normal people.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:23 PM
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Rollo talked about this over a decade ago. A lot of people need to read his “year one.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:03 PM
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I’m sure it will be brought up that there’s a much more rigid set of societal expectations in terms of how women behave, yet men can be knuckle-dragging “boys will be boys” Neanderthals into perpetuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:45 AM
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Nothing like a good low-effort trolling post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:25 AM
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“Women and children first” by definition means that men are expendable. This open panel discussion would never be had about women. GirlWritesWhat has done some great work on documenting the subject. But yeah, you can ignore it if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:52 AM
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You can’t continually browbeat men and tell them that they are disposable for a decade without having pushback. This supposed “maga cult” (or at least the cultural aspect of it) is largely reactionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:13 AM
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Andrew Wilson making men & women fight? Citation needed, because that sounds like bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:11 AM
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Or any male that values his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:44 AM
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But Mike Pence is seen as a POS for doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:44 AM
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Why would you hate to be the “it’s the phones” person? The data around screen addictions and kids is very robust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:54 PM
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Male teachers of elementary school students are seen as pedophiles be default, especially if they aren’t married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:51 PM
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-access- to affordable food, perhaps. Just because you can’t get it for free via the taxpayer, it doesn’t mean you don’t have access to it n
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:21 AM
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There’s a big difference between finding a good man out of dozens and getting 1-2 women to choose from (who may be subpar) after weeks/months of nothing. Extra-regular dudes often have to significantly lower their standards if they want to have -any- interaction because they are still the de facto chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:36 AM
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Rarely =/= never. Women rarely actively fawn over known serial killers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:43 AM
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It’s really not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:38 AM
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“Chicks dig assholes” and “nice guys finish last” is nothing new. Telling a man he’s single because he’s an asshole/misogynist is largely cope. Go browse hotchickswithdouchebags for a few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:34 AM
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With serial killers it’s like the social status is so high it doesn’t matter what they did. Hybristophilia is more likely the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:28 AM
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“Average person” Let’s not pretend like the women in here are all well adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:06 AM
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No. It’s being repulsed and using “health” as a scapegoat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:16 AM
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I don’t particularly care for the idea of uprooting and leaving to country for the sake of your love life. Hopefully there is more incentive than that. Also, there’s something to be said for American men going to foreign countries to find women, it there aren’t any American women doing the same. And there sure as hell aren’t any foreign men trying to date American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:47 AM
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Even if 100% of them were neurodivergent, they comprise of what percent of neurodivergent men, and they comprise of what percent of men as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:26 PM
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I never understood this. Half those seminars end up on YouTube. There’s a mountain of information from these same gurus available free online. I had a buddy that bought Rollo’s first book. I showed him TheRationalMale website, and directed him to “Year One.” There wasn’t enough “new” stuff in the book to justify buying it vs just bookmarking the website. Additionally, there’s a lot of solid content in the comments sections.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:24 PM
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This whole “it’s not a [person]’s job to [action]” tripe is all just dismissal of men’s issues. We get it. You want struggling men to fuck off. It’s NOBODY’s jobs except for their own and/or the people they pay for whatever services. Thank you for your thoughtful contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:57 PM
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Pretty reductio ad absurdum, but ok Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:18 PM
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Like…joining a RP community! Go figure. But just like anything, these people need to get out and apply the theories they consume, which a lot of them aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:03 PM
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Losers finding a place where they can stop being losers. Or would you rather them just suffer in silence? “Spend less than you make” is an easy concept. So is “eat less crap, and get in some exercise,” and yet millions of people are in debt and overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:13 PM
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And yet so many people basically stop cleaning their rooms once they got out of the house. There are a lot of things that you’d expect to be should just be common sense for functioning adults, but millions of people fail to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:02 PM
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She probably sees someone who can fund the lifestyle she wants. Either that or she has daddy issues. It’s the classic “women are sex objects and men are success objects.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:50 AM
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I think that if we don’t want to give young adults any agency with their dating choices, then it should be expanded to other aspects of life…like drinking, voting, selective service, etc. Intellectual consistency and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:01 AM
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I would sure as hell hope not. The housing market is shit right now Most single women aren’t homeowners without being in over their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:11 PM
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Most women don’t have that much forethought, and aren’t thinking about being in court with a dude during sexy time. For most women/people verbal consent isn’t sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:16 PM
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So the only thing holding your back is shaving your legs/armpits and taking out the nose ring? Talk about first world problems. Small boobs? Some of the most popular beauty icons right now include Sabrina Carpenter, Zendaya, Margo Robbie, and Ana De Armas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:36 PM
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This is not true. Marriage and birth rates have been on the decline for a while. We aren’t even at replacement levels of childbirths.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:24 PM
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Take up a hobby; one that actually you’re not good at, and work on being better at it. Entirely too many people these days don’t do much besides going to a bar/restaurant, some activity where all they do is sit and watch (sporting events, movies) or they just scroll on their phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:00 AM
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You’re really trotting out the “can’t access government services” nonsense? This has been debunked ad nauseum. Please explain this. Or how about this? Project 2025 has yet to be confirmed to be the playbook by any politician, but go on. If you want your voting rights, then don’t be a felon. Seems pretty straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:33 PM
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You’re right. this is what you’re looking for. Republicans like them for slave labor? Republicans want them OUT. What are you even talking about? Democrats are the ones that want them for low/unskilled labor. When Biden was the one saying “surge to the border.” When Trump entered, thousands of them were self deporting. There are significantly more crimes coming from illegals than there are people like Dylann Roof. And the other aspect is that those illegals shouldn’t even be here in the first pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:09 AM
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you can come back to reality now I don’t care that some grape picker is working for slave wages. They could actually fight for better wages if they came here through the proper channels. Laken Riley, and people like her should still be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:59 AM
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Jesse Waters ….. Yeah, and illegals are committing violent crimes against women and leeching off government subsidies, and it’s liberals, not conservatives who are aghast at this. Voting away rights….What rights are women losing? Or are you talking about -strictly- abortion? I’ve seen enough stories on the men’s rights subs to know that being UMC doesn’t shield men from the shit that family courts can do to you. If anything they’re MORE susceptible because they actually have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:08 AM
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You don’t think a strong dominant man who is good at making other men submit to him wouldn’t make a good c-suite executive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:21 AM
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This speaks to the idea of dual mating strategies of male/females of the species. Male - get as many females pregnant as possible in a sort of shotgun method of “spreading your seed” Female - find the most genetically perfect male to impregnate them. Also find one with the provisioning to take care of her and her offspring. So men are much less discriminatory, because they are trying to “impregnate” whoever for their legacies. Meanwhile women are much more formulaic with their “666” standards in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:19 AM
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Thank you for your contribution. I’ll take it into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:51 PM
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Makes me think of those couples that have been together for 40-50 years. So I guess if one of them gets sick, or disabled, the other one should just put them in a retirement home and go find fulfillment in the rest of their lives. Pretty gross when people en mass lose their sense of duty or sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:54 PM
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I literally didn’t, but nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:27 PM
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No, I don’t mean “having lots of sex.” I literally said that, and you just ignored it. It’s the trope “women fuck who they want, while men fuck who they can”. Most men have to have a considerable amount of wiggle room with what they are looking for in a partner. It’s hard to uphold your standards when your options are few and far between. Meanwhile, women will openly have a laundry list of requirements, and they will talk about their “icks,” because they actually have men interested in them, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:19 PM
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How much are women really complying with said brigade? Also, men are the ones that get shamed for caring about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:05 PM
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Sexual access to a wide swath of women. And when I say that, I mean they actually have options, NOT that they should try to fuck all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:00 PM
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It is interesting that women have the utmost freedom to express themselves sexually, especially because they are generally the ones being pursued, and then all the “rules” to be followed are pointing fingers at men and their behavior (regardless of gender neutral language). Most men will never get to “live their truth,” without a huge barrier to entry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:06 PM
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“While” is not a comparison word In the context you used it, it is. But carry on. I showed you a handful of examples where they don’t. In the most nonsensical way you could, and then you try to gaslight me by accusing me of not understanding English. Just watch any Republican man call professors stupid eggheads for getting a PhD. A lot of republicans HAVE PhDs, so what are you even talking about? being a nasty turbo slut making a bunch of fatherless children I already mentioned how deadbeat dads…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:53 PM
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Hypocrisy, plain and simple. Women want men to be their authentic selves, all while doing everything from fake eyelashes to bleaching their assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:23 AM
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The dudes that get the most girls are fun to be around. They throw parties, they do fun activities like things you see on the X-games or The Chive. They have a million stories to tell. They also are in relatively decent shape, and are conveniently attractive. Being nice and/or smart is great and all, but one thing you can’t be is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:14 AM
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Again…a woman being yoked looks manly, which is a turn-off. Also, for women to get that big, she absolutely is on steroids, because women don’t put on muscle like that. This is like how women are turned off by effeminate men. You literally said “but people don’t call cereal eaters nasty names while they have lots of cruel judgements for single moms.” You’re not even comparing apples to oranges. You’re comparing apples to car tires. Men/people absolutely praise things that are hard vs easy. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:49 AM
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Emotional intelligence isn’t actually a thing in the Psychology community. It’s essentially “Agreeableness” from the Big 5 personality traits and haphazardly combined with other well established things to make some new hybrid thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:36 PM
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The examples you gave are all disingenuous: Gaining muscle takes hard work and dedication, which is praised. Men like women who are fit, but there does come a point where she gets so yoked that she loses her feminine features, which is a turn-off. That said, those women are 1. Probably on steroids, and make fitness their whole life, 2. Dating male gym rats. You’re seriously comparing eating cereal to being a single mom? Do you hear yourself? This is like the old meme “Hitler drank water, so anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:52 PM
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It’s funny that you think it -must- be morally based if they are insecure about it. Maybe the dude isn’t swinging with a Pringles can between his legs, or he just struggles with performance. Really it doesn’t matter his motivation. Ultimately, current/former promiscuous women aren’t compatible with a wide swath of men, and they know it, and no amount of shaming/normalizing will change that. Honestly, I think more men should just embrace when women say such things. They should stop trying to cate…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:35 PM
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Low value/used up is a risk assessment. If I’m with a girl that’s been with 100 men, what sort of reassurance is there that she’s going to stop at 101? And there’s a wealth of literature about ability to pair bond. Also, there’s an embarrassment aspect of it. Men generally aren’t trying to be the guy that marries the woman that everyone has been with. Watch any video about pornstar women talking about their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:36 PM
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Low value/used up is a risk assessment. If I’m with a girl that’s been with 100 men, what sort of reassurance is there that she’s going to stop at 101? And there’s a wealth of literature about ability to pair bond. Also, there’s an embarrassment aspect of it. Men generally aren’t trying to be the guy that marries the woman that everyone has been with. Watch any video about pornstar women talking about their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:39 PM
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How did the saying go? 5 minutes of Alpha > 500 Carmel Machiatos > 5 years of beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:42 PM
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For added context, he is referencing this. He posted about this on X back in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 08:58 AM
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This is like RP 101
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:05 AM
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Glad you don’t work in the legal system.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:54 AM
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Right. I don’t particularly enjoy doing the dishes. So I don’t want to do them. I do enjoy having a clean place that doesn’t smell and doesn’t attract bugs, so I’m willing to do the dishes to accomplish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:07 PM
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So when a pornstar reluctantly goes into a porn studio in the same fashion that you go to work. They proceed to do the scene and all that. Were they raped? A wife isn’t in the mood, but the husband is. She opts to have sex with him because it’s been a month, and she wants to make him happy. Was she raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:04 PM
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So…sex work is de facto rape then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:45 PM
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Yeah, I was just looking up Antarctic cruises, and those things are still only about 6-7k. I think the biggest factors in racking up the price are how long you’re trying to stay, and how nice of a hotel you’re trying to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:20 PM
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Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:23 PM
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I've known about 2 people that actually openly talk about how they follow RP practices. Both of which are upper middle class, and have pretty solid futures ahead of them. I'd say a pretty significant portion of people who follow RP stuff are using it as their form of entertainment, and don't actually put any any sort of work to better themselves. Also you have to ask yourself where this person is in their RP journey. If they dude is going through the middle of a nasty divorce battle, and was kic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:24 AM
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I guess you're just going to ignore the woman in the leopard print and the woman in the red dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:17 AM
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I’m not going to pilfer through a bunch of videos across several different podcasts trying to find them, when their content goes back for years, and they don’t exactly say “X age woman with a degree in Y” in the title. But here’s a video for you take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:08 AM
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It’s always amusing to see women talk about subpar men as if their own shit doesn’t stink.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:15 PM
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Based on what reference/metrics…or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:38 PM
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Who said anything about it not being real work, or what they -should- do monetarily? There’s a lot of useful information on Reddit from every field of study under the sun that people share freely. Should they stop volunteering info and just hold out until people start paying them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:41 PM
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I do miss the days when pages like Just4Guys, UniversityOfMan, WallstreetPlayboys, and to a lesser extent, ReturnofKings were at their peak (among others). You didn’t have a bunch of grifters trying to sell you a course, the content was much more thought out, and “the first rule about fight club” was still in place. I’d say the redpill/manosphere needs a reset more than a revive. Everything an AFC would need can be found in TRP sidebar. I also think this video from Kevin Samuels should be requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:28 AM
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So when does right wing become “ultra?” Also, this is a common gripe about feminist ideology. Women having choice is great…until a woman -wants- to be barefoot and pregnant. I’ve also seen my share of videos of women confessing that they have feminist viewpoints, but when they go on a few dates with traditional men, they “reset to factory settings.” Normally it doesn’t last long because of different values ultimately creating too much ideological conflict, but it is interesting hearing those sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:58 AM
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“Whiners” are those stuck in anger phase. TRP acknowledges this, and will continually tell men that they have to “do the work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:11 PM
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Interesting how “losers not feeling alone” is a bad thing. And if anything, these spaces have given men better clarity on women’s behavior, and -why- they’ve been unsuccessful in dating. Hunting down grifters/scammers in -any- space is a lot of work and can be exhausting. Just because they aren’t continually trying to shut them down, it doesn’t mean “well, they must not care.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:27 PM
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Gatekeeping isn’t exactly a huge tenant of TRP. In anything that can be monetized, there those who will try to find shortcuts. That lady in that video short clearly ignores the fact that those podcasts bring on educated and/or older women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:25 PM
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Social media and/or phone addiction, the lack of third spaces for socialization, shit is expensive, women continually telling men they are toxic/creepy/unneeded, everything is “cringe.” I watched an awesome video essay about how people don’t have hobbies anymore. People don’t want to put in the work required to struggle at something and eventually become good at it. They basically just doom scroll their lives away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:26 AM
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I sent you a PM
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:36 PM
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It’s in the sidebar on R/ TheRedPill The cliffs notes is that this dude is in his late 20s and spent a considerable amount of time becoming a stand-up guy that takes care of himself and having a good job, meanwhile all the women around him will barely give him the time of day, and even tell him to his face that he’s the type of man they would marry after they’ve “had their fun.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:30 PM
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Women aren’t exactly helping. When you hear about “chopped men epidemic” and “being hit on by mids and/or losers,” it’s not exactly motivating. And men are much less delusional about where they stand in the sexual market. Meanwhile women are more than willing to talk about “I deserve” and, according to the women that post in this space, y’all are -happily- single until you find Mr Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:42 AM
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Ooooh sick burn!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:36 AM
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How many kids with rich parents will never become billionaires? The mass majority of them. Currently there are 813 billionaires in the US. That’s not the 1%. That’s the .00023% Trump talked about getting “a small loan of $1M.” Most people, if they were given $1M would blow through it in less than a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:21 AM
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You don’t get to billionaire status by not being sociable and inability to network.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:08 AM
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“Michael’s Story” comes to mind. Decent dudes get to play house after college while douchebags have to claw themselves out of the pits of college vagina. It’s why “marriage material” is often seen as an insult when directed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:05 AM
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The traits you listed are traits that describe most multimillionaires/billionaires, and yet, people love to say that the ultra rich are terrible and/or corrupt people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:02 AM
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There’s a difference between lying about it and liberals willingly mischaracterizing it. Planned Parenthood performs roughly 35% of the abortions in the US, making it the is the largest single provider of abortion services.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:31 PM
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This is like when mom’s receive child support and they SAY the money is for the child, but they are doing all this spending that they didn’t do before. But the general conservative argument is to not support companies that engage in practices that they don’t agree with. It’s also interesting how “women’s rights/healthcare” in these arguments begin and end with abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:35 PM
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They absolutely ARE funding abortion services.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:31 PM
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Yeah, because democrats pushing for letting illegals vote in US elections isn’t some kind of power grab or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:26 PM
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A male 5/10 hitting on female 5/10s isn’t setting his standards too high. Or maybe you disagree with that. I swear the Bloopers in here are convinced that every man struggling with women is only struggling because he won’t date a virgin super model.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:03 AM
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There are plenty of conventionally attractive individuals that are terrible people (say…Ted Bundy). This isn’t rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:15 PM
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Being alpha/beta is about your personality, not whether or not you won the genetic lottery. Do you treat the lower SMV/RMV women as though they are lesser? No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:12 PM
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Being physically attractive is not synonymous with having high RMV Men generally are looking at (and pairing with) equal or LOWER in value while women look at equal or HIGHER. For example, being a sugar baby really isn’t an option for men outside of the gay community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:26 PM
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So you’re essentially asking “why don’t you ignore the women whose actions aren’t congruent with their words?” It reinforces one of the big RP tenants. Stop listening to what women say, and start paying attention to their behavior. One prominent example is when Emma Watson spearheaded the whole “HeForShe” movement circa 2014, which was supposed to challenge gender norms and all that, but when you look at the men she dates, none of them reflect what she was preaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 09:37 AM
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You probably aren’t going to find any data about that outside of some shoddy surveys. And for every friend you have, there are a dozen videos of women talking about how they -preach- equality and “smash the patriarchy,” etc, but will swoon over men that conduct themselves in traditional fashion and how conflicted they are about it. This is one of the aspects of TRP that is a recurring motif. Much of what is talked about isn’t likely to be in some scholarly peer-reviewed study. Firstly, there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:38 AM
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This is the biggest crock of shit. If I get shot up, I want the people who will be responsible for saving my ass to actually be capable of dragging me to safety. Bear in mind that I will likely have my battle rattle on me as well. There are very capable women in the service, but some 5’2” woman in her best condition likely isn’t doing much with a dude that weighs 200lbs and is suited up. Also, there are different PT standards for combat roles and noncombat roles, so if they can’t perform, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:34 AM
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A world without men would largely be women still living in the woods. Innovation, technology, government, philosophy and all the building blocks of modernity were created/discovered almost exclusively by men. But continue thinking that men are such a burden on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:05 AM
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Dudes could do themselves a favor by not posting all their bullshit on social media to be scrutinized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:37 PM
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It’s also entirely possible that women aren’t trying to disclose their promiscuity to potential suitors, because as much as they say “the past doesn’t matter,” they know that -at best- men feel neutral about it. They also know that no amount of shaming and calling men insecure will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:49 PM
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Firstly, citation needed. Secondly, you’re comparing the average man to the average woman, when the discussion is about an average man getting with a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:47 PM
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If they have no options, chances are that these promiscuous women aren’t trying to bang them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:43 PM
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I could imagine that a lonely single man is better off than a man in a dysfunctional marriage. Single men vs married men across the board? No
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:52 PM
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There’s a baseline threshold men need to cross to access the women that they’re interested in. Women aren’t interested in a dude that lives with his parents or with a bunch of roommates and has a car that’s falling apart outside of -maybe- college. He at least needs to be self sufficient, and have enough disposable income to go on a few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:36 PM
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So is bloodletting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:59 AM
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I don’t RPers really care. For one, it makes for a good descriptor with what he had to say. Also, RP lingo being offensive and/or ragebait is often a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:08 PM
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It reminds me of a quote from Sex and The City. “We were having sex like high school kids. He didn’t know what he was doing, and I didn’t say anything.” Firstly I think it’s women’s responsibility to learn what they like. A lot of them are just passive in the bedroom, and some don’t even know how to get -themselves- off. It’s then their responsibility to communicate to their partners. It’s also men’s responsibility to actually listen to what women have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:59 PM
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Quite the low effort post… From what I’ve seen, a lot of women these days don’t even know how to be submissive even if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:10 AM
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Lizard brain still says women want a provider. That said, women still are very capable of supporting themselves in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:43 AM
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This is bullshit. Reciprocity isn’t “using” each other. You have to show each other some give-a-fuck if you expect a relationship to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:41 AM
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I have yet to see compelling evidence that beta males with families get divorced to a high degree. Divorce in general is a pretty high degree, and I think there's a pretty good argument to make that more men are beta than alpha, especially with how neutered men have become over the past few decades. A quick Google-fu says that the top reasons for divorce are "basic incompatibility, infidelity, and financial issues." A man being an "asshole" holds about as much weight as a woman being "crazy." TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:36 AM
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This is ridiculous. You don’t need religious affiliation to have a love life. You really just need to find whatever communities that appeal to you and find like-minded people. I’ve seen mediocre/subpar men of all shapes and sizes with wives and girlfriends. I do think there is truth to lowering standards on physical appearance, but everything else you mentioned is largely bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:37 AM
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Cheating = whatever your partner would not be ok with you doing in front of their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:11 AM
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You realize that TRP is primarily a sexual strategy sub, right? You can meander around r/relationships if you want more substance to your liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:02 AM
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“It’s the inside” is one of those platitudes that women say that sounds nice and puts a woman in good graces with the group. The looks/money/status formula will get you access to more women than being nice. Ultimately “what’s on the inside” only matters -after- the other traits have been satisfied. An ogre with a heart of gold is getting zero pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:47 AM
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Considering the “chicks dig assholes” trope, not being a nice guy is probably going to yield better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:38 AM
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Someone brought up a bottom tier man. I brought up an equivalent bottom tier woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:04 AM
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And something like 6% of C-suite executives are women. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:59 PM
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They aren’t exactly top tier men They aren’t trying to put a ring on it. They are likely STILL more successful than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:01 PM
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“Successful” being relative to the woman in question. You tacking on “generous” is just quibbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:51 PM
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Sure…just like the toothless disease-laden streetwalker giving blowjobs for $20 is included in “women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:46 PM
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The qualities that men want from women are much more interchangeable/replaceable than the qualities that women want from men. There are plenty of attractive women to go around, and men’s standards for attraction can be pretty forgiving. The pool of successful men is MUCH more limited, and if a woman wants a man that’s more successful than herself (which is most of the time) she limits herself that much further.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 11:57 AM
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If you take a dog that is generally friendly, and you constantly beat it, there’s a chance it will stop being friendly over time. People are products of their environment. There have been several posts in subreddits like XX that lament about the men in their lives being drastically different people after joining the military. It’s hardly performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:45 PM
4

As usual, you’re not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:36 PM
4

In both circumstances, the car’s structural integrity was at a certain starting point. If there’s a bunch of rust and whatnot destroying the car, that doesn’t translate “well, it wasn’t ACTUALLY a good car because it couldn’t handle it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:37 PM
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This is bullshit. You can have a moral code and still be upset that sticking to said code is not yielding decent results in the dating world. A “no sex before marriage” guy has a pretty small pool to work from, especially as he starts getting older. Being genuinely good has its own set of problems, and men don’t stop being genuinely good simply for not accepting those problems with a big smile on their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:22 PM
2

That specific question is largely a “meme question,” however it speaks to a larger theme of women putting their men through stupid tests that they likely read in some women’s magazine. These things are supposed to be “sure fire ways to determine X, Y or Z about your man.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:36 PM
2

Yeah no. It’s more like “act like you’ve talked to a real live woman before.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:16 AM
2

If he’s shows a lot of excitement just to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:23 PM
0

Ok…what does this have to do with dating? Also, the mass majority of those imprisoned men were raised by single mothers…which means they are a significant part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:57 AM
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Most men aren’t gunning for 8s 9s & 10s. And being less attractive doesn’t mean she’s a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:57 AM
2

Aren’t y’all continually reinforcing the fact that most houses are still dual income? What do you mean “threw away her career?”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:23 PM
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If a man has been with a woman that has been good to him for several years, gave him children, and made the effort to maintain herself (because we ALL will get older), he’s not going to drop all that because some random 23 year old cutie walks by.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:18 PM
3

Let’s assume you’re right for 2 seconds. Ok so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:08 AM
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Not really. If they are only looking for sex anyway, things will end before this supposed mask slips. They do it long enough that they internalize the behavior. You see it all the time when people work in certain fields/environments and their lingo/behaviors will spill into the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:55 PM
1

Nobody mentioned expectations other than you. And you can acknowledge it being a need without making the leap in logic of any sort of expectation from another party.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:51 PM
6

Performative or not, if it has yielded him better success than before, then it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:22 PM
6

Yeah I disagree. They see all these [minuscule percentage of] girls that are making money hand over fist, and they think “oh yeah, I can sell some feet pics and be set financially.” Most of these women are short sighted and just seeing dollar signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:00 AM
2

I guess I can go into r/deadbedrooms and tell those folks that they are degenerate and undisciplined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:49 PM
6

Was there anything in the OP stating some sort of obligation? Food is a need much bigger need, but nobody is obligated to feed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:46 PM
1

Online spaces will do that, especially places like Reddit, which is full of echo chambers by design.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:43 PM
3

Not sure what is so libertarian about what I said. Your thesis has its holes, some of which I addressed, but apparently you’re not “hear to hear” about that. Incel beliefs and blackpill nihilism has more to do with people having their faces shoved in their screens more than anything. Doom & Gloom content drives views, and the algorithm will do its thing. People being in their respective echo chambers doesn’t help either. Also, people have been going out significantly less in recent times. For on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:57 AM
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Men are valued for their money, power, strength, and influence. If you want to be seen as a “somebody” as a man, you have to make your dent in the universe, and the moment you eventually step down from that, you fall into obscurity really quickly. Pick-up artistry was about the “less than” guys finding ways to get laid with some regularity. If you ever read “The Game” it was articulated that the methods they use to get a girl are not the same methods for keeping her, but that’s moot if all you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:17 AM
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Probably for the same reasons that women think men who are jacked are also stupid. There’s always going to be stereotypes with any demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:55 AM
1

A lot of men’s issues with women aren’t going to be solved by trying to take it up with said women. I’ve seen guys obsess over strippers, when those strippers are literally doing their job. What would “taking it up with” those girls look like? If a woman is simply being nice to a man who has minimal interaction with women and he translates that niceness into her being attracted to him, eventually he might try to make an advance on her that she will reject. How does he “take it up with her?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:46 AM
2

“Diminishing returns” is a thing. Most people don’t have the time/energy for big families, and that’s not even accounting for potential health issues. I do know some couples that have 6+ children and on the surface they seem like they have happy families. But that certainly isn’t the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:03 AM
2

It’s multifaceted, but I would say the biggest contributor is the fact that it’s expensive to live, and people want to make sure they are stable before having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:46 AM
1

Your experience isn’t the masses, but go on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:02 AM
1

Are porn viewers even aware that it’s rampant…or that the particular porn they like to watch had any abuse involved? People are pretty privy to the harsh labor involved to make a lot of the products they consume (like the lithium in our electronics), but they still want their cheap prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:12 AM
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As much as they don’t need no man, open hypergamy is still very much a thing. These women outright tell us all over social media that they expect men to be hitting the 6/6/6 wickets. One particular TikTok that has been making its rounds was a woman saying that she expects him to be making over 150k because she likes to travel and buy expensive shit, and her last 2 boyfriends were over 6’2, so even being 6’0 isn’t good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:21 AM
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It’s funny how you put a literal male pornstar on there like that’s some sort of accomplishment. One of the common tropes in the porn industry is that women are fucking a lot of men that they would never touch with a 10-foot pole otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:05 AM
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You can find dozens of articles going back decades talking about “women saying no when they mean yes.” Many of them written -by- women. So let’s not pretend like it’s some insignificant demographic. If she’s getting irate, it’s blatantly obvious that she actually means no, but that’s not what happens in these “no means yes” situations, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:00 AM
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Correct, body count is a -behavioral- characteristic. A man can’t make himself 6+ feet tall, but a woman can opt to not sleep around. Personally, -why- he holds his values is moot. And I don’t understand why men’s preferences on low N-count is under such scrutiny when plenty of women (especially here on PPD) say they wouldn’t want high N-count men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:39 AM
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This is just wrong. Women consist of 85% of consumer spending
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:26 AM
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And there are a plethora of women who complain when men back off after the first “no.” So y’all need to have a ‘team girl’ meeting and set things straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:17 AM
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The hypocrisy comes when women will say that they’re all 10’s while talking about the “chopped male epidemic” It comes when they preach equality, but chase after men who are socioeconomically better than them. It’s hypocritical when they are cool with 18 year olds doing sex work and appealing to men of all ages, but like to shame the men who they appeal to…especially if they’re over the age of about 25. It comes when they say shit like “I’m a feminist, but still expect men to be chivalrous.” It …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:57 AM
3

The patriarchy will never be dismantled so long as men are needed to enforce whatever status quo you land on. So you dismantle this illustrious patriarchy just to replace it with another rendition of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:30 AM
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The more educated the couple, the more that the household duties are split, even if it’s not a full 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:10 AM
2

“You don’t talk about fight club” Essentially, that this was never meant to go mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:59 PM
2

It’s interesting to see how much the RP has evolved/devolved since I got into. The theories and discussions were a lot more hashed out, and things like “first rule of fight club” were a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:57 PM
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I really don’t know why -he- of all people is so popular. Back in 2022, “who is Andrew Tate” was the biggest search in Google. I get that he has been in RP spaces, and he’s a champion kickboxer, and he’s rich, but there are several other men in the space with similar backgrounds that never got that level of recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:23 PM
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You realize that “Chad” long predates Andrew Tate’s popularity right? There are some interesting urban dictionary definitions, but essentially (IMO) he’s a conventionally attractive white dude that is also a douchebag. Bonus points if he has rich parents (“my dad’s a lawyer”) and/or he plays some sport that you would see featured on the X-games.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:58 PM
0

Something like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:30 AM
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There will always be winners and losers. And the 80% rule isn’t carved in stone. So maybe you only get to top 60ish. That’s not a relationships death sentence. A lot of men get in their own ways with this sort of zero sum black pill mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:33 PM
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It’s certainly not men sitting in their cars posting thousands of TikTok’s about their relationship struggles and being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:05 PM
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The book “How to avoid ‘getting screwed’ when getting laid” coincides with that you mentioned. It was written by a prosecuting attorney. He would say “you don’t really know a woman until you’ve seen her in court.” On a more fundamental level, the old adage of “power corrupts” versus much holds true. As much as women tout ‘equality’ they are generally seeking men who are superior to them, and when times come when they see cracks in a man’s armor, they have very few compunctions about sabotaging t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:42 PM
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It is interesting how men are still very much willing to look past women’s shortcomings, while women have drastically raised their standards. Men still have that embedded sense of duty and sacrifice for their women, while women will leave their men at the drop of a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:34 PM
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MRAs have been talking about this kind of stuff for decades. Unfortunately, people like to ignore it unless they have some sort of personal investment. Everything you mentioned has been discussed at length in those spaces. You can start by reading “The Myth of Male Power” by Warren Farrell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:47 AM
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Some of the biggest whores I’ve met were fat and ugly. A lot of men’s standards will drop through the floor if it’s just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:39 PM
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Is working out not normal? Can people who work out be boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:07 AM
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It’s amazing how much of what the manosphere preaches is reinforced by thousands of women and the shit they post on the app. But people will still try to denounce it because…reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:20 AM
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Is TikTok a dating app now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:26 PM
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If you’re not denying the fact that women hold more value marriage, then you did a piss poor job of articulating it, because your previous comments were definitely framed as if they were some sort of counter argument. Nobody is arguing that it’s black and white, but looking at social media, women are certainly the ones crying the loudest about their dating woes. And looking at the metrics of the last election, the whole planet made a shift to the right, at least politically. There are significan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:35 AM
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Again, saying “so do plenty of men” doesn’t disprove anything. WHEN COMPARING THE TWO, women are significantly more likely to push for marriage than men. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t marriage-minded men or that there aren’t women foregoing marriage. I don’t know why this is so hard for you to grasp. Education and financial independence are fine, assuming you reach those things. The average age that kids are moving out of their parent’s house these days is 27. So obviously they are struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:01 AM
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It’s not “an old stereotype” it’s still very much part of to social climate, even in modernity. “Some guys do want commitment. Some girls don’t.” That doesn’t refute the claim. On the whole, women are still the ones pushing for commitment. And nobody is “acting like women are desperate for marriage.” Marriage/birth are declining more-so because it’s much more expensive to raise a family in this day and age, so instead of marrying your high school sweetheart and popping out a kid or 2 before the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:28 AM
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Or maybe being a husband is an act of quiet desperation, which leads him to seeking out avenues like OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:18 AM
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First of all, I call bullshit. Second of all, unless he’s donating gobs of money to these OF girls, their subscriptions generally don’t even break $10 a month. Quite the caricature you’ve made in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:12 AM
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I don’t know how old you are, but age is a huge factor. If you’re over 25, your chances of even finding a virgin are slim, let alone dating one. Based on this chart, 90% of people have lost their virginity by age 22, and 18 is where there’s the biggest shift. I couldn’t imagine being 30+ and trying to essentially groom some high school girl. So I’m sure there are dudes that -want- virgins, but know that’s not realistic, and voicing that desire likely comes off creepy, even in the setting of “loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:02 AM
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I mean, if you want to keep entertaining Lilith's reductio ad absurdum posts, then more power to you, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:46 AM
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"Nerd" for them is Benedict Cumberbatch or Joseph Gordan-Levitt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:40 AM
1

Here is a good excerpt (about 5 minutes) discussing the Devouring Mother archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:42 AM
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I see hispanic men in relationships all the time, and they’re generally pretty short. Reddit likes to dunk on Short Kings, but they get into relationships too, and they also pull conventionally attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:07 AM
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I heard a saying once. “There’s no ugly women, just lazy ones.” I’ve seen my share of women (and men) who would be considerably more attractive if they had more give-a-fuck. I know my share of people who can’t even consistently brush their teeth before bed. I’d stay about 50% of the women I see are at least passable. Maybe about 10-20 that are relationship caliber, and about 5 that would wow me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:54 AM
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One hand washes the other, holmes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:59 AM
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So, for instance, would looking for an extra second or two be considered acting on it? Or how about trying to approach them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:55 AM
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“Most trans men…” how do you know? I will say that every testimony I’ve seen from transmen has mentioned a serious spike in their sex drives though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:51 AM
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Also, “social circle game” can backfire pretty hard if you try to date someone who isn’t interested. I know that I’m not one who wants to continually hang out with someone who shot me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:32 PM
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Ask any trans male how much sex was on their brain after being pumped full of testosterone. Then factor in that the amount of testosterone they have is only a small fraction of the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:14 PM
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You know what, you’re absolutely right. Forget I said anything. I’m just nodding and smiling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:15 AM
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The ways that men are likely to chase value will heavily overlap with increasing their dating value. Being rich/powerful/networked/in good physical shape, are all things that will attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:49 PM
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300k, young, chivalrous and liberal. The number of men that encompass just those traits are effectively zero, and finding that in a -single- guy? Lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:42 PM
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Yes. There are plenty of men out there that will fuck for sport. And if anything the higher value women are the ones they go after if they are looking for a challenge. The Cruel Intentions) franchise revolved around that very concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:26 AM
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Seriously. I’ve seen my share of videos where boys no older than 3 are taken to hooters and they’re already ogling the waitresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:55 AM
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At least, before he got caught cheating on his wife. He still has a pretty good amount of material.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:15 AM
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The common criticisms you’ll hear about that book (and emotional intelligence in general). It’s poorly defined and poorly measured. it’s trying to take already established concepts and mash them together to be some new thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:13 AM
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What’s the name of this “main person?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:50 PM
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All I’m saying is that just because you fit into one particular category, it’s not a relationship death wish. Water seeks its own level. And to go even further, just because you’re not at the pinnacle of whatever that category is, it doesn’t mean that you can’t get -any- girls within it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:35 AM
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Except that emotional intelligence isn’t actually a thing in the psych community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:50 PM
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You missed the point. I specifically pointed out the “standout” amongst these individuals. There’s only 1 captain of the football team and only 1 prom king. Within every social circle there will be those that stand out, and have more appeal to the women in that social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:47 PM
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Go hang out at a couple comic cons. Nerdy girls have equally nerdy boyfriends & husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:59 PM
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Context matters. You could be prom king, or captain of the football team, or even the nerd with the coolest collection of Yu-gi-oh cards around a bunch of women who are nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:45 PM
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This certainly makes -some- sense on a solely attraction scale. We live in a society where there are a myriad of other factors. Otherwise people like Mick Jagger and Mark Davis would not be pulling supermodels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:14 PM
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It’s just as much “not an achievement” as it is being born into a rich family. You didn’t exactly -do- anything to get where you are, but you have something that is very lauded and sought after. And it’s -not- the same for women because men are less discriminatory in terms of sexual attraction. There are plenty of fat & ugly sluts. You’d be hard pressed to find a bunch of fat & ugly fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:43 PM
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In terms of physical attraction low their men have access to similar methods. But, male or female, you’re likely not going to go from a 3/10 to a 9/10 just because you did some grooming and put on a nice outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:26 PM
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Literally zero effort? Literally?? I call bullshit, and even if it were true, you’re not the mass majority of men. You don’t have to pedestalize women to see the disparity in sexual access between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:34 AM
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Ugh…I got to “patriarchy” and stopped reading your feminist screed, but I hope it was cathartic to write all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:35 AM
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Sexual conquest also amounts to legacy (or a proxy for it in modern times). This is why in a lot of species of animals, a new alpha will kill off the offspring of the old alpha. It’s also interesting how interesting how low-tier men are expected to improve themselves for such access, and yet low tier women aren’t. We’re currently in this supposed “chopped male epidemic” where extra-regular women are bitching because they are surrounded by extra-regular men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:32 AM
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Women having a lot of sex is easy. Men having a lot of sex is hard. This debate has been done to death. It’s one of the reasons why men care more about body count than women do. Women will go so far as to insult men by calling them virgins or incels, while women can literally auction off their virginities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:17 AM
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It sounds better than “getting ran through.” Another common term the use is “living my truth.” I remember from an old Joe Budden podcast: “Women use hella words to say that they are out hoeing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:56 PM
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With this particular circumstance, this feels like a game of “chicken” in terms of who’s going to be the one to finally throw away the damn flowers. THREE WEEKS of both of them not throwing away these dead flowers? Did either of them even say -anything- or are they both just holding their tongues? Also, a quote from Rollo: Most guys are natural pragmatists, we look for the shortest most efficient way between two points. The deductive reasoning that follows is that if we want sex, and women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:47 PM
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Being high value as a man makes it so that he too can replace a woman easily, whether it’s intentional or not. You have it backwards. Attracting women doesn’t generate value. Value generates attraction. come off as validation seekers and are likely underachieving in other areas of life. Serious cope. Nobody is perfectly well rounded, and those “other areas” may not be important enough for them to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:20 PM
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I’d say it’s the illusion of choice and FOMO brought on by social media/dating apps. Small Town Sally only had to choose from Billy Bob and Carl back in the day. Nowadays, her phone won’t stop blowing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:57 PM
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It’s more like “your rule makes no sense comparatively, so come up with a better one.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:48 AM
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Yes. We have both established that anything “can” be shamed. Sex work carries a level of shame that other lines of work do not. It’s on arguably on a lower peg than jobs like used car salesmen, parking meter attendants, and debt collectors. The point that I was getting at is that it’s not really conversation that people would openly talk about around their grandparents or their nieces and nephews. It’s a degenerate profession that begets more degeneracy. The majority people who are actively in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:07 AM
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I can’t control for the actions of these supposed “various others.” But carry on I guess. Yes, construction is not glamorous. A lot of blue collar jobs aren’t. Dirty/blue collar jobs aren’t publicly shunned, and there has been a pretty significant push to seek out these lines of work in lieu of an overpriced higher education that may or may not lead to job security. Also, you learn an actual skill. The beliefs of their parents is indeed a factor. I’d wager there are more parents that disapprove …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:22 AM
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COULD these consequences be created? Maybe. I would argue that you’d be hard pressed to generate those consequences for any profession that is a net positive to society. I’m sure there are families that are disappointed in their child becoming a carpenter instead of a doctor. And it’s not an assumption if these people are literally testifying their experiences. I’m not sure why you’re trying to drive home this whole “dead inside” narrative. I never said anything about it. I’m sure that when the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:16 PM
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There have been dozens videos of pornstars/OF girls/strippers/WhatHaveYou that have told their stories and how it has ruined their relationships with friends and family, or ruined their love lives. Fast money comes with slow problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:25 AM
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Rollo has written at length about this whole “attraction vs arousal” thing. This passage in particular you might find insightful. Women love to be asked about what they look for in a man. It’s kind of like imagining what you’ll do with all your lottery winnings after you buy a quick-pick – you want the mansion and the yacht, but you’ll also give some to charity so as not to seem like money could fundamentally change you into a greedy prick. Women rationalize that their most self-indulgent wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:38 AM
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Pretty much every woman that has a car, job, and isn’t living with their parents. This is regardless of how dead-end the job is, how much debt they have from that car, or how many roommates they have to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:07 AM
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Women also typically select for men that are equal to if not higher earning than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:39 AM
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You clearly haven’t seen the effects of social media (especially Instagram) on people’s perceptions of the world. We are at the point where women are calling this or even this a dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:35 AM
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Patriarchal institutions will always be a thing. As much as women/feminists want to “dismantle the patriarchy” someone would actually have to do it AND enforce the changes. 100% guaranteed that would have to be a conglomerate of men. So effectively taking the current iteration of the patriarchy and replacing it with a different one, but it’s still a patriarchy nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:13 PM
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Fun fact about me…I’ve never been able to grow a beard, let alone on my neck, so I’m always clean shaven. But let’s let my tag be the determining factor of the validity of what I have to say. Whether I care or not is irrelevant. I’m just correcting what it means when men say “destroy her body.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:31 PM
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I call bullshit. “Destroy her body” is about tattoos, piercings, and gaining a bunch of weight through overeating and/or the damages of having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:36 AM
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I honestly don’t think it was really a thing outside of your chronically online female college students.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:00 PM
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The difference being that The woman (in this scenario) is likely raising the kid of a deadbeat. It’s much easier to hide that you’re a deadbeat loser than it is to hide that you’re a single mom. Men aren’t the ones claiming to have some mystical ability to read people and tell would be good/bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:22 PM
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Pass. Dating apps have allowed me to meet great women I would have never met otherwise because the places that we frequent don’t intersect. This includes women who are generally homebodies that I absolutely couldn’t have met unless I saw AND approached them somewhere they were running errands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:51 AM
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So what you’re saying is that they need to be paying more attention to these videos like Whatever Podcast, Pop the Balloon, any of these street interviews where they are talking about women’s pasts, single mothers, “what do you bring to the table” etc. All of them showcase these walking red flag women and how they come in all shapes and sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:31 PM
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I dunno. Why don’t you ask them directly? I’m not trying to speak on their behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:52 PM
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I either assume that she was raped, in which I wouldn’t want to deal with whatever trauma she’s working through Or… I assume she wasn’t raped, and she’s a liar who could use those tactics on me. Either way, that’s a no from me dawg.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:51 AM
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There were a lot of women who called him attractive after the events that happened. He was 5’9, drove a BMW, and his dad was the director for the Hunger Games. That’s more than enough to get his foot in the door. Underdeveloped body? He looked like any other random high schooler.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:51 PM
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I will say that cultures change over time and/or regionally, and the definition of beauty can often change with that. Aside from that, you’re ultimately right. You can’t yell at men that “if you’re not attracted to trans women, you’re transphobic” over and over and expect them to just change how they feel about dating trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:40 PM
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You mentioned in the OP, “women in their 20s and 30s.” Once women are out of college, the bulk of their partying is likely done, and they are looking for substantial relationships and/or to settle down. There aren’t enough hot “chad-like” men to go around, and women have a pretty decent range of what they find facially attractive (compare Benedict Cumberbatch to Chris Hemsworth to Edris Elba). If a man looks like he takes care of himself, he shouldn’t have a hard time finding a woman that’s phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:14 AM
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Physical attraction is what gets your foot in the door. You can’t be a complete sperg, otherwise they won’t bother with you. Just ask Elliot Rodger. And, again, if you’re just some loser that hit the genetic lottery, she’s not going to keep you around very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:37 PM
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I know this may be hard to grasp, but it’s entirely possible to be physically attractive as a male AND have your shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:04 AM
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From this article: But the conclusions of another study this year by the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago - a review of data from four earlier studies, involving 30,000 participants - go further. "One of our startling findings was that rates of domestic violence among same-sex couples is pretty consistently higher than for opposite sex couples," says Richard Carroll, a psychologist and co-author of the report.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:29 PM
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Yes, if women are just trying to get random sex, being successful doesn’t really matter. They might even fuck you in a bathroom stall or between two cars in a parking lot. If they are looking for a partner, then financial stability and all that -does- matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:47 PM
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The average house is about 400k. The average car payment is 750 for new and 500 for used. Something something “the price of eggs.” Over 63% of americans can’t cover a $500 emergency. 39% of women have less than $100 in savings. If you’re able to navigate the current expenses of society without living paycheck to paycheck, you’re pretty far ahead of the game. Women by and large date at their current socioeconomic level and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:44 PM
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You have to get to know her before learning that she is “the one.” Unless you’re in a situation where you’re continuously around her (like a classmate or coworker), would you actually take the time to learn about her? I’m sure there are plenty of great women who are parents, but knowledge of them being a parent automatically disqualifies them from being anything more than short term for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:33 PM
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To quote Richard Cooper, “stop overcomplicating your life and trying to justify why.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:31 PM
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I reject this premise. Men are faulting these women for either staying in an abusive relationship or continually getting with men who are abusive. If it’s the latter, then it’s a question of what their vetting tactics are that keeps landing them shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:51 AM
1

Stats that you completely pull out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:44 AM
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I know who Neil Strauss is. He wrote “the game,” which I mentioned in my last post. How many women do you think are listening to RP/PUA podcasts so “be on the lookout” for men that consume such stuff? You still haven’t told me about this “foundation of sand.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:38 AM
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Go on… Also, I’m pretty convinced that you’ve never read a single chapter of it. If I wanted someone to focus on pick-up, I would say start with “the game”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:19 AM
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I said “start with.” I didn’t say that it’s your new Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:38 PM
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The women’s magazine industry and daytime television has been “pathologizing” men for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:19 AM
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Start with the Book of Pook
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:08 AM
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I’ve already explained how that is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:50 AM
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If you’re not interested, then you end the date early. It’s not like you’re going to see them again. Even if you go the online “lemme screen you first”route, EVENTUALLY you’ll have to meet the person. And if it turns out that you don’t like them, you have now wasted your time online AND in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:15 AM
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People stopped going out because technology has destroyed our ability to interact in person. We are at the point where people will avoid an incoming call and then text back, and it not being because they “are in the middle of something.” I’ve had my share of interactions online where I push for a meeting and they say “I need to get to know you first.” Any asshole can pretend to be Rico Suave when they have time to formulate their answers before hitting “send.” Also, I want to see mannerisms, beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:44 PM
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I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:29 PM
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One of my favorite videos from old MGTOW YouTuber Barbarossaaaa is when he talks about commensurate compensation. This is one of those instances where the real question is if this man thinks that dropping all this money is -worth- the time to hang out with these women. Maybe he’s is wealthy. Maybe he is simping hard. Ultimately, that’s for him to figure out. Nonetheless, shit like this is why men are weary about paying for women. Plenty of them have no compunctions about exploiting gender norms,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:35 AM
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Girls being let into Boy Scouts was circa 2017. Their bankruptcy & lawsuits didn’t come around until 2020. If Girl Scouts “have been fine,” there wouldn’t have been such a push to integrate girls into the Boy Scouts. Boy Scouts have better funding, they challenge the boys more for their comparable badges, they have a much wider array of historic camp sites to utilize, and being an Eagle Scout actually means something. If you asked a random person on the street what a Gold Award means, they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:10 PM
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People DO care about you having a command of the subject matter, especially under pressure. Your fancy degree means nothing if you can’t perform the jobs you are given.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:55 PM
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Let’s not forget the Trans Men that talk about how much their sex drives went through the roof when on testosterone…and their levels post treatment aren’t even at the levels of the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:26 PM
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Town bicycle? No tread left on those tires?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:28 AM
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Please show me where I said anything about fault??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:15 PM
1

An example of one of these super dated takes??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:23 PM
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Notice how they ignore the times when man bites dog! Pretty sure men who want a decent woman aren’t trying to divorce her. Go figure right? The risks/turmoil associated with divorce is why men are just opting out of marriage altogether, whether they have a bunch of money or not. It may be hard to grasp but broke people can have expensive & messy divorces too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:18 PM
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The term “chick crack” has been part of the PUA space for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:09 PM
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If you want to cold approach, you need to make sure you’re at least well put together. You can piece together a surprisingly decent wardrobe even at TJ MAXX/Marshalls. Spend 6 months in the gym to get some semblance of muscle definition, make sure you’re taking care of your grooming and general hygiene. The biggest part of cold approach is that you have to be attractive enough that she won’t completely stonewall you before you’ve said a word. Then spend some time in PUA forums, because this advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:45 AM
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What does your comment have to do with…literally anything that has been mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:04 AM
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Porn? Pretty much every conservative/RP talking head tells you that you need to stop watching porn. Sleep with random attractive woman? We don’t know, and neither do you, so let’s not pretend like that’s a talking point. This also goes for your “actually good husbands” as well. I’m not going to continue addressing the rest of your Gish Gallop, but I will say this. Trying to use conservative and RP interchangeably doesn’t really work. Someone like Ben Shapiro is not synonymous with someone like A…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:35 AM
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I’ve always said women are “violent by proxy.” I’m way back when I was listening to Sandman, he brought up a point about the amount of power women have. As a man, try having an argument with a woman in public. It’s even better if she starts crying. See how quickly people will come to her rescue. Any sort of accusations of wrongdoing will have people jump straight to “shoot first and ask questions later” mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:29 AM
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You asked “what benefit is there.” And I told you. The fact that other people -can- with proper and extensive training doesn’t negate the fact that the average man is stronger than the average woman. But yes, please compare the average man to people in their peak fitness levels like you’re making a point. You pointed out the outliers. Good job??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:03 PM
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Pretty sure “bench pressing” is a proxy for overall physical strength. Which can be utilized in a myriad of ways. Even if it’s something as innocuous as opening a jar of pickles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:48 PM
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It’s not that hard to find a bunch of women on tiktok who are lamenting about not being able to get married and “where are all the good men.” To say that “women are happy” about the current dating climate is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:39 PM
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It absolutely IS a strategy. Women don’t approach men. They position themselves so that they can be approached. It allows for plausible deniability if he doesn’t make a move, and it also still lets her maintain her “power to choose” if she ultimately wants further pursue something once he’s approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:35 AM
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Chances are that a woman with a BMI of 31 is NOT because of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:09 PM
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The 80/20 rule and Andrew Tate were mentioned, so they took that and ran with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:49 PM
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Most K-12 teachers are women, and having just your mom around as a parent, your primary role models are going to be women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:47 PM
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Looks get your foot in the door. And after 10 years, you’d assume that the bond created between the couple overrides the fact that looks may have faded. If a woman is marrying a man because of his money, she’s interested in a lifestyle more than a companionship. Not leading with your wallet is RP 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:53 AM
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Oh I can believe it. I’ve seen plenty of below-average men that think they can have above average women. They can continue to delude themselves in the same way that extra-regular women think that they can get HVM just because they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:50 AM
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You should go outside more. Some of the most repulsive men I’ve seen are somehow married with kids. Their wives aren’t exactly super models (water seeks its own level), but they figured it out somehow. This defeatist attitude of the chronically online is why so many of you just give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:37 AM
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Please identify what are “appropriate places” and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:54 AM
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How many single mothers are there? How many confirmed rapists are there? Cheating more? Give me some percentages. Are we talking 90/10 or are we talking 52/48? This is like when women tout the wage gap while ignoring the factors that bring about 75 cents number.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:13 AM
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Have you seen the Paul brothers or Jack Doherty? You’re talking peak level garbage humans, and they are rich and famous BECAUSE of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:35 AM
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Because our fucked government sees a child that needs resources, and screwing the man over even further is -apparently- better than utilizing our entitlement programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:26 AM
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Hard to be a shy man and trying to date. Someone has to approach, and women still get the luxury of leaning on the social norms of men doing the approaching. They can either muster up enough courage to approach, rely on online dating, or trying to looksmax to the point where some women might occasionally approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:02 AM
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Of course not. The only men that I see calling themselves alphas out in the open are the RP gurus on YouTube. All of them combined, there are maybe 100. The ones that come to mind to me are conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:58 PM
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Lazy advice like this is why TRP/PUA is around. “Just strike up a conversation” is barely actionable, especially for men who have little experience talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:49 AM
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You’re griping to the wrong person. I just said her name instead of “that one woman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:36 AM
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Norah Vincent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:16 AM
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And people largely turned a blind eye to all the celebrity women who were acting like dogs in heat around Justin Bieber.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:44 PM
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Do you think homosexuality is a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:32 PM
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Dude is hardly being pissy. You’re just misinterpreting basic RP concepts, and he has to spend more time clarifying things than actually arguing a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:28 AM
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We in the west are in civilized society. Most men have moral character and aren’t just pieces of shit trying to bring other people down. It really isn’t our job. Our only job is to control our OWN behavior, but feel free to try to keep the degenerates under control and see where it gets you. Women get a higher level of vitriol in online male spaces. Out in the real world it’s not even remotely the same. Go into a public space and start yelling at a woman, and watch how quickly you get shut down.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:06 AM
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I reject your premise outright. Most men ARE good men, and don’t need to reassess their behavior. It’s also not our job to keep randoms in check. Honestly, we can only be expected to do so much to keep those close to us in check as well. People are gonna people, and honestly (not to “whatabout” tooooo much) there are plenty of shitty women out there, and men unsurprisingly will defend said women. It’s been talked about many a time that men are supposed to uphold to some sort of social standards …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:05 AM
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There was a study/ survey done on women’s romance novels. The most common archetypes for the main male characters were werewolf, vampire, pirate, and pilot. So even amongst older women, the bad boy is still carries weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:57 PM
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Whoever she is, I hope she sees your post bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:53 PM
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The men who are running back to marriage are generally the men who have minimal social networks, so they rely heavily on their partner for an outlet. It’s one of the contributing factors to why divorced men’s suicide rates are something like 4x higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:47 PM
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What -typical- red flags are you finding from a single 30s man? Would you say those red flags override the -typical- green flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:14 PM
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How are they not seen as more desirable? Being ghosted is a product of OLD in general, and has little to do with age. I’ve never in my life heard “where are the women who won’t ghost me on OLD” and I challenge you to find that phrase anywhere even remotely main stream.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:01 PM
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Sure, but older men are seen as more desirable than older women, especially if you’re trying to have kids. Men aren’t the ones saying “where are the good women?” (Outside of chronically online spaces)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:45 PM
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A lot of times it DOES apply to men as well. There is a bit of a trade-off however, because older men in their 30s & 40s generally are solidified in their careers, so they can provide the lifestyles that women want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:08 PM
2

I think time has already shown that cardio is effective when it comes to general health. And 4-5 miles worth of walking is an easy way for generally sedentary people to get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:14 PM
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Imagine thinking that taking time out to maintain your health is ludicrous. There is plenty of science to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:29 PM
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I’ve never seen a fat distance runner, and they consume A LOT of calories because of how much they burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:15 AM
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It’s roughly 4 miles of walking, which is a considerable amount. For those who aren’t doing anything else for their fitness, it’s the least they could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:09 AM
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Nobody cares? They’re called influencers for a reason, and companies pay big bucks to use them as advertising vessels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:10 AM
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I care about MY health, and those close to me, seeing how that’s what I have some control over. I’m not going to slap the burger out of some fat person’s hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:08 AM
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Americans are fat because they don’t understand portion control and they don’t go outside. There absolutely is a bunch of sugar in a lot of our product, and massive portions. But there are ways to mitigate that. Moreover, doing things as simple as drinking water instead of soda, and taking daily walks (getting in your 10k steps) are really significant and low-cost ways for people to keep their weight under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:27 AM
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You realize there’s more to it than just being unsightly to look at right? Look at obesity-related health problems, and how much of a drain it is on our healthcare system and insurance. The number one injuries in hospitals is nurses trying to lift patients. Have you ever given a 300+ lbs person a bed bath? Or roll them so you can clean their sores? Have you ever had to sit next to one on a plane and they’re spilling over into your seat? Have you seen the mountain of misinformation that these peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:17 AM
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Going through that woman’s TikTok (and several like her) it’s pretty clear that women have an overinflated sense of self. This is just like the OkCupid experiment that found 80% of men unattractive, while men’s rating of women was a pretty standard bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:12 PM
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Yeah. Why don’t they learn a new language and fly to some other countries to make friends there? If that doesn’t work, maybe they should try to go to the local daycare center and make friends with some 6 year olds? That’s how dumb you sound with your examples. People want to be amongst their pier groups and of similar socioeconomic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:52 PM
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There are happy ending massage places all over every city. I’m sure plenty of them offer sex if the price is right. There are also plenty of escort websites to browse through. Porn is still live and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:44 AM
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Debunked by who? Citation needed. All other things being equal, less partners has more appeal than more partners when you’re talking about what men are looking for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:51 PM
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Whether or not “most people” fetishize X is irrelevant. It is indeed niche. That’s essentially how fetishes work. And women have an affinity with dark tetrad characteristics. But regardless of that, the bottom line is that women’s virginity is highly valued, especially compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:20 PM
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eh…I’m sure virginity is just as much of a fetish as big boobs or feet. The men who are willing to purchase women’s virginities are probably well-adjusted enough to generate over $1M in disposable income. I’m guessing they have had access to everything else under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:25 PM
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Sure, but you’ll be hard pressed to find men literally auctioning off their virginity like some women can. For men, a woman who has been a virgin for a prolonged period is seen from a sense of “I’m probably not going to be the one to change that unless I invest a considerable amount of time/energy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:45 PM
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WOMEN talk about male virgins in a negative way, especially past high school. Women’s go-to insults revolve around men’s manhood and their inability to get sex. The only women who like virgin men are virgins themselves or they are trying to fetishize virginity. Women have continually displayed that looks/money/status are more important than purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:29 PM
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Emotional intelligence is a bunch of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:27 PM
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Ah yes, because you struggle with pair bonding, that translates to you being a good girl. I the existence of men who “hate” good girls is the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:36 AM
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The reason the original analogy was terrible because of the idea that someone got a “friend deal” as opposed to some random person. If there is an established relationship and rapport between two people, it’s certainly more acceptable to provide favors compared to two strangers. Which is why I said I would expect a girlfriend to do more for me than for a man she doesn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:13 PM
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Everything they need already? Let me see what all 7 of their college funds look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:21 PM
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If I see someone getting a better deal than me, Im going to question -why-. Knowing why lets me understand what’s going on that I didn’t know beforehand. This is pretty straight forward. It’s not just -men- that have issues with women’s promiscuity. It’s well documented that promiscuity makes it harder for women to pairbond. Also women shame other women’s promiscuity as well. They have no problem calling each other sluts and whores when the mudslinging starts. And let’s not pretend like misogyny…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:09 PM
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The point of the analogy falls flat when there’s more information provided. Call it jealousy or insecurity or whatever in order to hand-waive real concerns that large swathes of men have. Shaming them into compliance isn’t going to work. There are lots of videos where OF girls, pornstars, sex workers, etc lament about how their dating lives are trash because men don’t accept their pasts. They can blame it on addiction, troubled pasts, dire straits, being young and dumb, whatever. It largely does…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:52 PM
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Thats ones you’ve already established a relationship Yes. Which is why your original comment was a terrible analogy. Regular customer gets benefits that rando doesn’t get. That is actually a common business practice where members get deals that non-members do not. Like I said before. Women have every right to not do things for new guys just because they did them with previous partners. They can do it for any reason they see fit, or for no reason at all. The new guys also have no obligation to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:10 PM
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I personally wouldnt do it. I’m sure there are others who’d be more charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:01 PM
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Dumb girls are good for short term relationships at most. I need some intellectual horsepower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:42 PM
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This is a terrible analogy. I would absolutely expect my girlfriend, with whom I have an established relationship, to do things for me that she wouldn’t do for some stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:25 PM
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Terms like “town bicycle,” “slept around,” and “party girl” have been around for decades. Outright asking what their N-count is wasn’t a thing, but the trend of men not wanting to wife up the girl that has been with everyone has indeed been a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:23 PM
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I’m sure there’s some overlap in their ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:04 PM
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I have always agreed with that. Don’t be the girl that does all kind of wild and crazy things, and then turn into a little prude with the man she wants to lock down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:54 PM
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Women care more about men’s ability to provide than their sexual history. Women aren’t the ones that are asking men their body counts. Women even use “can’t get laid” as a way to insult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:42 PM
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You gonna elaborate on why you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:05 PM
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One thing I -do- like about Female Dating Strategy is that they preach using a high level of scrutiny when determining who to fuck and how soon to fuck them. But it really does reinforce what I was saying about good girls. Good girls aren’t going to smash just because a dude it charming. There’s going to be some vetting involved
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:26 AM
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Sleeping with 1 dude doesn’t make a whore. A whore doesn’t “owe” men sex because she has fucked other men. However, a man shouldn’t be with a woman who exhibits behavior that he is disgusted by. I don’t know how many of these women are transparent with their history, but I bet that if they were, the pool of men who accept their history THEY are actually attracted to is effectively zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:12 AM
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I have seen that men respect the good girl (whether she’s -actually- good, or she just hides is well). A lot of men’s resentment stems from the women that want to do a bunch of random fucking and sucking, and then make men -work- for the same pussy that other men got within a few hours of knowing them. It would be equivalent to a man taking all these random women to Michelin star restaurants and fun activities like sky diving/boating/whatever, but the girl he likes, he splits the bill at McDonal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:03 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:39 PM
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And if your game isn’t good, just hope that you’re not labeled a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:14 PM
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Maybe a generation ago. These days people are getting themselves established before marriage/kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:12 PM
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The same thing that’s in it for the man. You get an extra-regular person for companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:11 AM
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The my do. Just not anyone. You still haven’t answered my question as to “how.” Proving you guys focus on looks YOU mentioned “working out.” fatness is already normalized. If that were true, then body positivity wouldn’t even be a thing. Also 1 in 5 adults (according to the CDC) isn’t “most people” So? I guess you’re just ignoring this whole discussion about standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:47 PM
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People don’t “improve” their personalities. Which is what I was focused on. Don’t conflate that with other aspects of their lives. “Not by much.” So with men and women having similar body metrics, calling men lazy is the pot calling the kettle black. men are also far. [sic] Men aren’t trying to normalize their fatness. So what’s your point? varies from woman to woman That’s why I said “more likely.” GENERALLY speaking, women want men richer and taller than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:02 PM
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How exactly do people “work on their personality.” People generally are who they are. As much as the Red Pill preaches that stuff, some people are just reading to absorb the information but never put it into action. Then, the bulk of society doesn’t even know what the manosphere is. Men most certainly do not have the veto on laziness or expectations. Women on the whole are fatter than men, and they would rather make movements calling themselves attractive than trying to put down the fork and get…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:34 PM
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Look I’m not here to argue the efficacy of Biden/Trump policies. I’m simply saying that it’s completely ludicrous to conclude that men are voting for Trump to get laid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:11 AM
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Yeah, it couldn’t be the cost of living, money being sent to fund foreign wars, the fact that Biden/Harris have proven to be wholly incompetent, or the border crisis. Nope it’s because they think a Republican president translates to getting more pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 04:02 AM
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You keep bringing up Kevin Samuels, when TRP long predates the stuff he put out. TRP used to essentially be broken into 3 main pillars: MRA - trying to change the game MGTOW - trying to avoid it altogether PUA - how to play within the current set of rules So yeah, if you want to “free yourself” from the whole thing, then MGTOW is the route you’re trying to pursue. But, as one of the MGTOW pioneers Stardusk once said, eventually you need to stop bitching about women and get on with your life. Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:13 PM
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The topic was promiscuous women, so that’s what we were talking about. But if you have a -must- move the goal post… Obviously, the fewer partners the better, and “ordinary” sexually active women aren’t the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:04 AM
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Being the dude that locks down the girl that every one else has fucked absolutely has a stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:31 AM
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This is demonstrably false. There are way too many videos of OF girls and pornstars (big and small time) lamenting about how they can’t find decent men to take them seriously. There is a popular Reddit post where a former sex worker “felt like she was lied to” because she overwhelmingly was reaffirmed that being a former sex worker wouldn’t effect her dating prospects, but when she actually tried dating, dudes were shooting her down left and right. She said her type was the more clean cut busine…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:05 AM
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I’m not trying to play therapist for someone who hasn’t resolved their past traumas. I have neither the qualifications nor the desire. Hopefully that fact about her comes out earlier into things than later. I don’t blame her for what she went through, but I also have to protect my peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:15 AM
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Being honest allows women to categorize you easier and/or lets them manage expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:49 PM
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Most couples USED to meet IRL. That has changed in recent years, especially after Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:35 PM
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Right. I never said anything about them being mutually exclusive. It DOES NOT imply that he isn’t attractive as a short term partner. It implies that SHE isn’t trying to “waste her opportunity” by having a random hook-up / short term thing when she is trying to be in her hoe phase. There are a lot of times when they actually do marry men which they meet through hook-ups. Most of the time it doesn’t work this way, and it’s a bad strategy for trying to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:51 PM
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“He’s a loser, he’s only husband material” isn’t how it would go. It’s more like “oh he seems like a good catch, so I’ll keep him on the back-burner until I’m done having my fun.” It’s the “nice guys finish last” trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:07 PM
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I’m not saying it. The data is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:59 PM
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During the first two years of life, a mother does not discriminate between boys and girls. This is false according to this study.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:59 AM
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This is like saying “giving money to the homeless doesn’t count because many of them are going to use it to buy drugs.” The intention is to help the less fortunate. Once the money has left the hands of the donor, they don’t get to control what the person does with it. Moreover “the clergy” do a lot more than you give them credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:11 AM
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This is ridiculous MRA’s have been around for decades at this point. Warren Farrell’s “The Myth of Male Power” was published in 1993. Erin Pizzey, Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, are just a few more names of people who have been at the forefront of things. However women/feminist love trying to shout such people down or otherwise cancel them. Men have been talking about things like workplace safety, fathers’ rights, disparity in punishment for crimes, male suicide, The Deluth Model, etc for this whol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:29 AM
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Aba & Preach just covered this stream that has been going around lately. This girl is one of many girls that find their sugar daddy and basically coax these men into buying them a lifestyle. You can tell by the way she interacts with the man that she is repulsed by him physically, but is willing to put up with it because he is buying her things she can’t afford herself. As the saying goes, all these girls want a sugar daddy until daddy wants some sugar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:47 AM
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Right… men reaching out to women instead of men means they DON’T have in-group bias. Which is what I originally stated. So try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:20 PM
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Because the dude that set himself on fire (that we’ve been talking about) had a daughter. What difference does that piece information even make?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:15 PM
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Yeah, they get weekends and every other major holiday after they damn near bankrupt themselves to get custody. But yeah, that -is- custody
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:23 PM
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The child. You know, because safe haven laws
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:11 PM
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I wouldnt call family court the “economic system.” And the family court system most certainly has a bias against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:08 PM
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So your male friends don’t even reach out to men they know and trust on some level. Which is a very non-random circumstance. Thanks for reinforcing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:06 PM
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Yeah. He should have just dropped her off at a fire station and taken off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:54 PM
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Can we not talk about 2 of the richest men on the planet, and consider the average Joe? Living wages and healthcare? What are you even talking about??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:45 AM
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You can look the dude up if you want details. The cliffs notes version being that the system is overly bureaucratic, and it gets really expensive really quickly. Thomas Ball, New Hampshire, circa 2011.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:59 AM
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Rape happens across the world to both sexes. 18+ years of financial burden isn’t something to just disregard. Some of these men are paying -well- over what it would cost to make sure that the child(ren) is provided for. And then there are things like the Bradley Amendment that makes sure that men have zero recourse in the event that “life” happens. Specifically, it automatically triggers a non-expiring lien whenever child support becomes past-due; overrides any state’s statute of limitations; di…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:48 AM
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There’s a difference between providing for your child and paying so much support that you become a wage slave and it destroys any sort of standard of living, especially considering that if you had custody you could manage just fine. Some serious Reducto ad absurdum
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:33 AM
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It’s not made up. White guilt is rooted in liberal ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:29 AM
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Be that as it may, in-group bias is much more of a woman thing than a man thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:24 AM
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The Duluth Model suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:02 AM
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Your dog poop incident makes me wonder if the guy that yelled at you was aware of the homeless man. If he did, I would think he would have reacted differently. I think a lot of men are jaded because they often see how everyone will bend over backwards for women, and be their shoulder to cry on, or otherwise validate them. Meanwhile, men are more often than not, left to fend for themselves. So when you get a man trying to play “Oppression Olympics” with a woman, it’s likely because he not only ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:09 AM
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There are a myriad of things that give women the advantage legally, socially, and in the workforce. So no, it’s not as simple as “herp derp we just want equality.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:12 AM
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And the manosphere is largely reactionary to the overcorrection of feminism and the shifting paradigm between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:02 AM
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This thread in a nutshell: I want to see men suffer their lonely miserable lives of quiet desperation instead of finding refuge elsewhere. Reason 1 Why not? If men are able to venture outside of their local populous to find women more fitting to for them, who are you (or anyone) to try to stop them? Reason 2 Easy way out? Should dating be a struggle? If a man has worked on himself to the point where he is capable of moving out of the country to find love, chances are he is a catch. The fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:59 PM
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All you have to do is ignore all the smell of dick on her breath and turn a blind eye to all the dudes laughing at you because you married the town bicycle. Good luck dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:21 AM
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Here, watch this from Thomas Sowell that came out in 1981.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:21 PM
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Women have been a prominent part of the workforce pretty much ever since reliable birth control was invented. Many of those women managed to have kids. The wage gap has been debunked ad nauseum. Statistically, the more educated the couple, the more evenly they will split household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:04 PM
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I view women that approach me with a [un?]healthy level of skepticism, because I’ve been the butt of a few jokes/pranks from women trying to approach me. If they are genuine, I just view them as human. The approach doesn’t really move the needle for me in one way or another in terms of my thoughts of THEM. It does make ME feel pretty good though because apparently I’m attractive enough on -someone’s- eyes for them to actually approach me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:02 PM
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“Beyond naive”. So what religion-in-schools mandates did he try to push in his first 4 years? Your TDS is palpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:12 AM
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If he was trying to line his pockets, he wouldn’t be president. He has LOST considerable money being president as opposed to just running his private enterprises. Moreover he has donated his annual $400k presidential salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:09 AM
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The DOE probably needs to be dismantled anyway. America is ranked 4th in money spent per student out of all the OECD countries, and yet we don’t even break top 10 in education, specifically we rank 38th in Math & Science scores. What evidence do you have that he’s going to -make- bibles mandatory??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:34 PM
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This has nothing to do with me, but nice try. Meanwhile you’re going to ignore the uptick of women getting into sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:37 AM
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How is a rich white male translate to being diverse and equitable? And at least he was actually voted into being the candidate as opposed to being appointed after Biden was deemed too senile & incompetent to run, which was after years of gaslighting saying he’s doing backflips and handstand while doing calculus and playing chess blindfolded. Yes Harris was a DEI hire. Biden specifically said he wanted a black woman. Let’s not forget that she tried pulling the racist card on him during the democr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:48 AM
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Unfortunately, many (and a growing number) women utilize their sexuality as their primary form of currency in their personal/professional lives, and then expect men to just ignore that because…reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:36 AM
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One of the all-time top rated r/TIFU posts was someone getting an Ancestry kit for the family, and finding out that the father wasn’t really their father. She was ready to take that shit to the grave, and based on that story, there was no reasonable doubt on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:27 AM
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“Most sports.” Alright, what are these sports that allow women to dominate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:38 PM
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The male English Channel record (Andreas Waschburger) was almost an hour faster than the female record (Yvetta Hlavacova)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:34 PM
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The male ultra marathon record for 24 hours is held by Aleksandr Sorokin, where he ran 319km. Camille Herron was only able to run 270km. The male 1000 miles record (Yiannis Kouros) is a whole 2 days faster than the female record (Sandra Barwick).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:26 PM
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Women have an easier time lifting their own body weight? Have you actually watched men do rings??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:51 PM
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I can’t find a single women’s world record that is better than the male counterpart. A lot of the time, the women’s records aren’t even good enough to meet the male -qualifying- scores.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:46 PM
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Gymnastics is kind of an apples/oranges because there isn’t a whole lot of overlap in their events.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:42 PM
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So…you can’t point anything out, specifically. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:52 PM
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Who here is having a meltdown?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:53 PM
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I see you have a dismal view of men’s level of competence when it comes to running a household. Moreover, there are plenty of women who don’t have this level of intuitiveness in their living spaces. A most of these things, if they aren’t already handled, can BE handled with minimal time/effort. How much X do I have? Enough that I can get at least a single use out of it. And if I am close to being out, then I add it to the grocery list. It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:04 PM
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Based off what you said, and assuming everything is accurate, you’re missing a key aspect. Devin ALSO has a say in the relationship. Sounds to me that after the weeks/months whatever, he had buyers remorse. He could indeed be a great guy, for a woman that he’s actually interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:57 PM
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That thread is hardly an example of women making “best” wingmen. Social proof can indeed give men a “way in,” because the female friend will often be disarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:16 PM
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Yes. It’s very common. One of the big tell-tale signs is that women that have men in the friend zone make no efforts to help them date. She will soak up all the praise, gifts and validation, but her reciprocity is lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:04 PM
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Does their dick get worse once they get their shit together?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:22 AM
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Entirely too many “49er” women for the abundance of average men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:28 PM
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She WILL judge him unfavorably. Women don’t even want to date their equals. They want to date men they can look up to. Being a boss babe isn’t something family-minded men want. Men want to see the feminine caring/nurturing behaviors that will make for a good wife and mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:16 AM
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The demographic that you’re talking about is the one that isn’t looking for long term anyway. Women who are looking for a quick lay don’t really place high priority on “the goods” Moreover, it seems like every woman has a story of being with an absolute fucking loser, so this idea of needing “the goods” is specious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:12 AM
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Friends first = I, the woman, want to control the pace of the relationship. I want you to validate me, but I don’t have to touch your pee pee. Aka: “I wanna take things slow,” but with more plausible deniability. The other problem with it is that they’re never going to be “just friends”…first. It’s this weird dance where he pretends that he’s not -too- interested while she figure if he’s date worthy. Whenever I’ve gone down that road, I was never really treated like just a friend. And any time t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:15 PM
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Japanese men commit suicide instead of going of killing sprees. They have one of the highest rates in the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:22 AM
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An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:17 AM
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This is nothing new, and every man with an IQ above room temperature knows this. I have always said that all it takes for a woman to get laid is to stop saying “no.” You can find streetwalkers with sores on their faces, tracks on their arms, and they look like they haven’t had a proper meal/shower in 2 days, and they can still find men willing to -pay- for their services. Finding a decent man who will actually stick around after he’s gotten his rocks off is a different story, and that’s what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:38 PM
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In some jurisdictions, if you've spent enough time with the kids and become the "psychological parent," the mom can come after you for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:10 PM
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Since when is wasting your life being a hater going to improve one’s life? You call it "being a hater," others might call it "raising awareness." It's hardly "wasting your life." Even the men in these videos you've posted have more things going on in their lives than "being a hater." I'd wager that if you looked at the full breadth of their content, the single mother discussion isn't even 10%, and if you looked at the full breadth of what's going on in their lives as a whole, concerning themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:15 PM
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Remember the pig woman dating experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:44 PM
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OP: Posts a bunch of videos explaining why men shouldn't date single moms. Also OP: "what's wrong with dating single moms?" Part of this is a rallying cry to get men to be better. It's just like how there are men that try to get other men to stop simping. Women are getting rich off of Onlyfans because men are paying for their content. If men could detach their dicks from their wallets, sex work could dry up overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:35 PM
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Support for women registering for the system gained steam after the Defense Department abolished all restrictions on women serving in combat positions in 2013. Several plaintiffs, including the National Coalition for Men (NCFM), subsequently filed lawsuits challenging the "men-only" requirement of Selective Service. In 2016, Congress created the blue-ribbon panel to study the issue. Link to full article. Like I said, MRAs have been doing this for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:53 PM
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Im still waiting for you to link anything showing that feminists have been tried to push any sort of legislation -for- selective service for women There is plenty of stuff from feminist that has been posted against it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:59 PM
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The only thing “shot down” was Hillary’s presidency, which wasn’t an MRA/feminist thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:55 PM
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This link has a few that have been in the works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:22 PM
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Aren't feminists the only ones who have proposed amendments to make selective service apply to women? MRAs have been doing this ever since being an MRA was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:06 PM
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Maybe those justices in office made that promise, but they have been and gone. Also, it’s definitely an overstep for the SCOTUS to be legislating from the bench. So if anything the new SCOTUS was rectifying a fuck-up of the old one. If you took the time to read even half of what judge Alito wrote on the decision, you’d see that it’s pretty ironclad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:24 PM
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RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS. And it was the SCOTUS that made the law in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:42 PM
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You’re looking it’s from the wrong perspective. I’m talking about actual interactions with the opposite sex. A “ducks in a row” person isn’t likely to be up-to-speed on social cues and the nuances that actually land you a relationship. It also doesn’t clue you into red flags that will lead to the downfall of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:41 AM
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So some 32 year old with -zero- dating experience, but his shit is together? What do you think that will look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:33 AM
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And how old do you think the average person is before they have their shit together?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:56 AM
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There will be significantly more apartment living. As of right now, the national interest rate for home loans is 6.74%, and the consumer price index is still about 20% above where it was pre-Covid.. On top of that, buying a house is a pretty large commitment, and it’s much easier to break a lease. I couldn’t see these younger people getting a house unless they are married, and we all know that marriage rates have been on the decline for quite a while. Cost of living was a lot different during th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:37 AM
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Yeah I disagree with this. There’s nothing inherently wrong with dating and figuring out what you want in a relationship in your high school/college years. That said you should be managing your expectations seeing how both people involved will likely be broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:16 AM
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The frequency of that attraction doesn’t negate the existence of said attraction or whether or not it’s “real.” Women outearn men until they hit roughly their 30s and then they want to start having families.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:13 AM
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If you’re getting semi-consistent sex, it’s probably good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:20 PM
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“All-encompassing” is nonsense because people can be attracted to some aspects of you and while not attracted to others. I’m pointing out fetishes because they encompass a myriad of ways that someone can be attracted to physical attributes/behavior. Hobosexuals are generally women. Full stop. Women can actually fuck their ways into a place to live, while men will end up homeless. You’d be hard pressed to find a woman that’s willing to take in and house a man that’s a loser. I never said women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:23 AM
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Considering all the fetishes that there are, how is this “not real?” Generally speaking, men are -not- attracted to money/status, and honestly I think women are generally attracted to the lifestyle/security that money provides and the social proof that status provides. However, attraction is still attraction, and I don’t think it’s manufactured either. I also think that you have to consider that attraction is multifaceted. The hot broke asshole is still hot. Also, it seems like every woman has h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:14 AM
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How do you define HVM?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:17 AM
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Right…within the range. if it’s BELOW that range, that’s a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:37 AM
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You realize that being the breadwinner isn't the end-all-be-all of gender roles, right? Additionally, that breadwinner gap gets wider towards men based on how big of a family the couple wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:02 PM
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“I am going to present my personal anecdote as if it is some sort of mic drop.” Let me guess all of the couples you know are the same way. 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:05 PM
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Maybe..I personally reject the original comment that “gender roles are expected from the woman.” Men are still expected to pay for dates, protect women, be the breadwinners, etc etc, while women will scoff at the idea of even putting a microwaved hotdog on a plate for HER man that’s been at work all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:58 PM
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I can’t imagine why men are calling out women for rejecting femininity, while still holding men to masculine standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:12 PM
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Life is about taking risks, and there are shitty people all over the place, whether they be your teacher, your doctor, your parents, or some rando driving next to you. You have to figure out how much risk you’re willing to take on to live a fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:37 AM
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Just because there are plenty of men who will bitch and complain while never actually doing any self improvement, it doesn’t detract from the fact that TRP tells men that they are subpar and need to do better if they want better outcomes in the dating sphere. FDS is more about setting up a million boundaries to make sure they aren’t being used by fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:28 AM
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Sooner or later, someone makes small talk. If you don’t know how to escalate the conversation, that small talk will just remain small talk, so “you just take it from there” is bullshit. And THAT is also assuming some (specifically a woman) is willing to make small talk with you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:04 PM
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This is something Jordan Peterson talked about (his part starts at 2:35), and worth a listen, love him or hate him. Alcohol leads to lowered inhibitions. Which leads to, a myriad of bad things because ultimately, even if you consent to it (in a moral sense, not in a legal sense), you may have not actually thought things through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:47 AM
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Scarcity mentality is a thing. Some dudes are tried of fucking their hands, and will tolerate an undesirable woman so they don’t have to go on a 6+ month dry spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:09 AM
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My biggest age gap has been 11 years, which probably would have been alright if our life goals aligned more. Meeting them and getting their interest isn’t -too- terribly difficult, but it’s certainly harder than women closer to my age. IMO, being in decent shape, and having your shit together is a pretty high priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:57 PM
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Regarding your draft comment: citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:25 PM
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I might be a little late to the party with this, but I was watching the “5 feminists vs 1 Antifeminist” Jubilee video, and is kind of amusing how much the feminist movement has been hijacked by the Trans movement. Also, apparently (based on that video) you can’t even dress traditionally conservative anymore as a woman without being “othered.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:06 PM
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Yes, men who are socially retarded and have scarcity mentality will try to latch onto anyone who shows an inkling of interest. Also, obsessive personalities exist. So do stalkers. Both of which are likely to be men who are chasing after women who clearly aren’t interested in them. Your personal encounter doesn’t translate to “she’s legitimately a bitch.” It’s more like “she’s BEING a bitch to get away from me,” which is much different. Those dudes that doubled down were obviously trying to push …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:15 PM
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Yes, every dude wants to -fuck- the most attractive woman in the room. I’m not contesting that. Once they learn about who she actually is, the novelty of her hotness wanes pretty quickly if she turns out to be insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:42 PM
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Looks only get you so far. I’m willing to bet that most men would rather date a plain Jane who’s a pleasant as opposed to a hot Stacy who’s insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:01 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn’t go that far. The proverbial wall does exist, but it’s not like these women can’t find -any- men at all. It’s just that the men they actually want aren’t nearly as interested as they used to be….not in anything serious at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:19 AM
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The data I remember seeing is that an average woman in her 50s is equivalent to a Chad in his 20s. So you have to be a top level male in order to have the same kind of SMV as a post-menopausal extra-regular female. It doesn’t ever really shift in men’s favor. I also believe that if she stays active and takes care of herself, she still can pull more men. In order to get crazy access to sex as a man, you need rock star celebrity status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:55 PM
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Maybe. I was just providing a common trope. Skating and partying aren’t synonymous with “bad” either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:46 PM
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Sounds like the Cliffs Notes version of the most rudimentary RP advice. I guess you have that going for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:44 PM
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“Fault” is a moot point. Whether it’s a male or female judge, a man doesn’t care about who gave him a life sentence. What he really cares about is why a woman got a lesser charge for the same crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:35 AM
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It’s like when you listen to all these relationship podcasts and the guys ask obvious questions. They don’t want to openly acknowledge that their methods/ways of thinking are subpar. No man with status and a reputation to uphold wants to be with a woman that sucks & fucks for a living. No single mom wants to admit that her kid had a hightened chance of being fucked in the head because she opted to get impregnated by a man she couldn’t keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:56 AM
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Based off what you look like in your picture, I find it hard to believe that you struggle so much with women, especially if you’re in the shape you allude to and making enough money to spend like you do. Some key factor is missing from this equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:50 PM
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Which means that men aren’t relying on daddy government. Thanks for reinforcing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:31 AM
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But I though that women were “perfectly happy” single!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:33 AM
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Except the government will garnish wages from men who are trying not to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:17 AM
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That’s not men looking for daddy government assistance, also, I’m pretty sure that there are more women seeking out govt assistance than there are men who aren’t paying support. …so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:06 PM
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There’s a big difference between verifying whether or not something is your responsibility…and taking something that’s indeed your responsibility and trying to dole it out to others. Also, there’s a drastically different cost to “parent government” in getting a 1-time test and applying for social programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:08 PM
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The trope “cheaper to keep her” suggests that men are willing to just accept their bullshit relationships than break things off. Also, between both dating and marriage, many men will just sort of shut down and leave things up to the woman instead of just declaratively initiating the split.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:17 AM
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Except that women by and large arent “perfectly happy being single,” especially as they get older.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:18 AM
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Not conservative beliefs as a whole, but most women (especially single ones) are pro choice. Most of everything else the couldn’t care less about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:46 PM
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Awants? Really?? “Stop trying to make ‘Fetch’ happen, Gretchen”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:28 PM
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Most of the women I’ve dated have been less financially well off than me. That said, there is a threshold that I’m not trying to cross. If her lack of funds starts to have an effect on MY budget, then it’s a problem. Why? Because I’m not trying to raise a grown ass adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:29 AM
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This island would have to be pretty massive, 101 people amounts to a fuckton of consumption AND waste in a place that has no established infrastructure. I imagine that most people would die from starvation/disease within the first 2 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:58 PM
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Women can speak horribly of men who don’t earn much all they want, but at the end of the day, most of them aren’t going to find a high earning man (they aren’t called the 1% for nothing). The “average at best” video from Kevin Samuels comes to mind. Most women don’t walk in circles or do the activities where they are going to find those kinds of men, and the dating apps will only get them but so far, especially with how often women swipe left of men. It’s also hilarious to think that some broke …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:42 AM
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“Just treat them like humans” is generally directed at men and said by women that walk in feminist circles with chips on their shoulders. According to their ilk, if a man is struggling with women, he’s likely some creep that thinks of women as human fleshlights. It couldn’t possibly be because of all the shortfalls that TRP finds in an over abundance of men. No, it’s that he’s just a misogynist that “doesn’t get it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:46 PM
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If it’s fraud, he didn’t have kids with her….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:11 AM
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Calling on the spot is fine, especially because people often don’t respond to unfamiliar numbers. I think the whole 8 hours thing is kinda random. I normally would at least wait until the afternoon, when she’s up and about. As far as “what went wrong,” my guess is that she sobered up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:41 AM
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I like how you’re assuming motive based solely on how attractive they are. And “men are desperate simps and will worship a literal hobgoblin” tells me that “everywhere you go” is confined to the 4 walls of your living space. You have to be out of your mind to think that men that look like Henry Cavill are so desperate that they are trying to get with women that look like Lizzo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:29 PM
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She's not just going to dismiss the fit guy in front of her face just because she saw pics of zyzz or Arnold online. And its easy to talk shit when her own body isn't up for scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:37 AM
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Dependability is important, but it’s one of those traits that take a considerable amount of time to find out. It’s not something you’re going to find out in a couple of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:44 AM
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Women are often intimidated by a fit dude, especially if she’s not in the gym just as often. Other women are gonna chase after him Her insecurities start to come out when it’s time to get nekkid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:33 AM
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She was doing fine long before dating Travis Kelce. She has the kind of star power that she could give a 2-days notice to a concert in the middle of the week, and it would still probably sell out. And heaven forbid she supports her boyfriend at his profession. Never in the history of ever has any girl went to her partners’ sporting events.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:28 PM
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Yeah, I think 18 year olds are hot too, and definitely fuckable. I wouldn’t want to date them for more than a month or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:58 AM
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There’s often a serious power dynamic, especially in the event that she (most likely) moves in with him. Guys in her age demographic are competition Girls in his age demographic are competition People assume she’s being manipulated They like don’t have much in common because they are of different generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:35 PM
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The typical phrase you hear is “women want to be married, but they don’t want to be wives.” They don’t want there to be a sense of duty/sacrifice outside of what is needed for their kids. A man having any sort of expectations for his wife will be demonized as manipulative/controlling/insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:36 PM
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You’re moving the goal post. You mentioned getting an Oscar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:23 AM
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Ok, and? He played the hell out of a roll. You don't see Kevin James with a bunch of movie accolades for being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:42 AM
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This is intellectually dishonest. It’s not simply “going out.” It’s going to places that are hotbeds for intoxication, and people meeting to hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:42 AM
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Letting yourself go isn’t the wall. People’s tastes will evolve as they age. Yes, that early 20-something is hotter than her 32 year old counterpart, but a 35-40, year old man isn’t really trying to do more than just have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:52 PM
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BP: I saw some stat somewhere that your Mega Chad will get as much attention as a woman in her 50s, so based on that I’d say “the wall” really isn’t as much of a thing as the RP makes it out to be. RP: it’s really hard to accept the idea of “male privilege” when women can literally fuck their way to success, and they get so many benefits in life from just being in shape and taking care of their skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:11 AM
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Who’s trying to advocate getting into a relationship to solve mental health issues??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:09 PM
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BetaBux makes for good mid-term relationships (say 6-12 months) for RP aware men that haven’t completely done the work. You can keep someone around, but you aren’t trying to nurture things to their fullest. “Women fake orgasms, men fake entire relationships.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:39 PM
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I did cite my source, you have to actually click the link and read it. Even based on your planned parenthood quote that you posted, 85 out of 100 isn’t 5-10%. I think you mean “freezing sperm.” Spermicide is a form of contraception. Pretty sure that, outside of staunch catholic circles, nobody is bothered by birth control. Abortion, obviously is still heavily debated. The only men that arguably think of women as breeding stock are the ones who have 4+ kids. The average guy isn’t trying to sire m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:17 AM
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That is just wrong, and freezing sperm seems like a shitty alternative compared to just being diligent with conventional forms of contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:52 AM
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Vasectomy reversal success rates are is pretty trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:42 AM
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When was that??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:59 AM
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Honestly, I think it’s just a battle not worth fighting more often than not. Keep the expenses low and just offer to pay. That’s why people suggest things like coffee dates or some smoothie shop. I’ve noticed that if the date is going well, the girl I’m with will offer either on the next date or the next activity of the day (assuming you get that far). I think women are, by and large, a lot more reasonable these days, and are willing to chip in for the experience. Women like the Cheesecake Facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:25 AM
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Being RP aware is not the same as following it. You could prattle of every RP truth in the book, and still be a social retard that hasn’t done the work. I’ve watched some of these consults that the “gurus” have, and the people they talk to often fit the stereotype of the average basement dweller. HOPEFULLY they will put in the effort required to better themselves, but doubt even half of them will be disciplined enough to follow through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:07 PM
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I don’t even know how you came to that conclusion. You’re clearly not even paying attention at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:14 PM
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I said social climate. Not political climate. And social contagion is a well-documented phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:38 PM
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Changes in social climate can (and often does) have an effect on people who we do respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:50 PM
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You can find this stuff even in big news outlets, as well as on your various social media platforms. As much as you may want to dismiss it to the online world, it has engulfed a pretty significant portion of modern society, and it’s likely to only get worse. People want to be included, especially if they don’t fit into the “norm,” and one of the ways that the woke mob has tried to to this is by saying “you’re a bigot if you exclude me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:28 PM
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Whether or not I care is irrelevant. This is a debate sub, and I’m providing my insight. That said, nobody is going to shame me into fucking people I don’t want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:29 AM
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It’s not hard to find people saying that refusing to date an overweight woman is fatphobic, or having “genital preferences” is transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:36 AM
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You've made zero effort to invalidate them. You just brought up talking points that the poster didn't even mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:18 PM
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Expressing your familiarity with talking points doesn't debunk them. Moreover, these aren't just issues with the justice system, but the social climate in general. It's funny how you mention the Duluth Model and try to dismiss it as a feminist-based conspiracy theory, when Ellen Pence was front and center in the development of that model.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:40 PM
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Watch the video on YouTube. Otherwise you don’t get the reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:12 AM
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I refer back to my original response. These dudes aren’t jealous of deadbeat dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:02 AM
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Oh yeah, I’m SOOO sure that men are just lining up to date single mothers and take care of other men’s kids. Calling a guy a simp/beta for dating a single mom is hardly jealousy. So you take a thought experiment and misconstrue it. The point is that men should be dating women that actually desire them. Also how does this have anything to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:16 PM
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The hell is male hypergamy? Im pretty sure the only people jealous of deadbeat dads are the women that are struggling to raise their kids while the dads are off acting like they’re childless. What makes insecurity “extreme” and not just regular?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:46 PM
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Accountable for what??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:54 PM
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Did anyone see that Jubilee video where they had to guess the 1 anti feminist? Two of my big takeaways were: It’s funny how feminism has been hijacked by the trans movement. It’s also funny how dressing conservatively and being feminine will get you outed as non-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:55 PM
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Playing these thought experiments is dumb. The “perfect replacement” WONT come.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:19 AM
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Rollo’s “The Medium is the Message” covers this really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:37 PM
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If you hang out in r/MensRights or similar websites, they talk about that kind of stuff. “A Voice For Men” has some great stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:33 AM
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Men who don’t have emotional outlets are a danger to themselves and others, and that should be a bigger concern than lack of vagina tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:57 PM
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“Allowed” to is like saying you’re “allowed” to steal from the grocery store. You’re not supposed to, and there are legal ramifications if the mother presses the issue. There are a myriad of reasons behind that 1/4 number, most of which have nothing to do with whether she’s entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:52 PM
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“With custodial rights” really matters. And I think an argument can be made that “he didn’t want the possibility of child support, so he tried to drop our kid off at the fire station.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:48 PM
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If women are allowed to abort and to abandon their kids at fire stations/police stations with no repercussions, then yes, men should have similar recourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:52 AM
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Why not suggest a few changes here or there rather than trying to find a whole new person who meets your attraction criteria, has a schedule that works with yours, and isn’t already taken, in hopes that they have the qualities that you’re looking for, as well as whatever qualities that the first person had that you’re attracted to? One in the hand is worth two in the bush. That said, if she has dealbreaker characteristics, then he should definitely keep it moving. Some traits are way too much ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:05 AM
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TRP has talked several times about how you “can’t debate attraction,” or that “discovery is better than disclosure.” She wants to learn on her own that he’s a super cool dude, not listen to him try to explain how nice of a guy he is. People on debate subs are gonna debate. I wouldn’t be surprised if more than half the people on political subs don’t even vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:43 AM
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People on Reddit lack intellectual honesty and nuance? You don’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:34 AM
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Even with the minefield that we have to wade through, we still want to have companionship, consistent sex, and families. Crazy I know /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:21 AM
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I know what the general consensus is, but it’s not set in stone, and again, even in the past, the women were forced into the workforce because times got harder. That to me doesn’t translate to “you’re not a trad wife.” She could work retail/grocery/fast food too. I see burger joints in my area that are offering $18/hour to start. Again a lot of women are already doing the bulk of the housework. So doing more housework, and spending less time in the workplace might not be a bad gig.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:49 AM
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Maybe our definitions differ, because I think a woman can work and still be a trad wife. She’s just not trying to be a corporate drone boss babe that’s working 50 hours a week. Being barefoot and pregnant isn’t some end-all-be-all to a traditional marriage. Plenty of women worked part time and maintained the home during the 50s-60s, etc especially with the invention of appliances, and when the kids head off to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:56 PM
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“50/50” in terms of what? Women still do the lions of the housework. And the “boss babes” are the ones bitching that no men want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:45 PM
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Women have a lot of control if they are at least 6/10, make enough money that they aren’t a complete drain on their partner, and they generally adhere to more traditional gender roles. As much as your average Redditor hates on them, Trad Wives are what men are raving about in the current dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:13 PM
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I would say “the caliber of man SHE wants,” not necessarily a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:27 AM
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Even top PUAs will attest to having less than 50% success rate. That said, if 9 women reject me, and I go home with the 10th, I would say I had a good night. Most people before the internet or even social media weren’t cold approaching though. There was generally some commonality (work/school/social events) that allowed them to at least be somewhat familiar with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:52 AM
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According to the CDC, Utah is ranked 14th, behind places like CO and NM. Trying to be like “herp derp mormans” is pretty lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:07 AM
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A “more serious reason” would likely devolve into what it is currently in due time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:45 PM
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Someone that ultimately defers to my judgement. It IS NOT synonymous with slave, doormat, or someone who doesn’t have a voice in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:13 AM
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Some men are popping out healthy kids out into their 50s. I wouldn’t want to be 70 when my kid is graduating high school, but it’s still doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:43 AM
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There are plenty of college campus/middle-of-downtown-on-college-night street interviews that show that you don’t have to be actively selling sex to have a room-temperature IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:37 PM
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Are you accusing him of being one, or are you legitimately asking? I know he has mentioned using sugar sites to find women to bring onto the show, but I don’t think he’s actually a sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:16 PM
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Don’t ask a fish how to catch a fish. Ask the fisherman. Asking a woman for dating advice will generally get you what SHE likes specifically, and if you’re trying to get laid and be more of a fuckboy, she’s going to be zero help. Her advice will also be run-of-the-mill and would only work for guys she’s already attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:34 PM
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They [wrongly] think “who would be better to get advice on how to date women than from a woman?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:14 AM
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And let me guess…all of those high earning women in your friend group met their male counterparts long after establishing their high incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:11 PM
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I'm curious what "real hobbies or passions" they think most women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:10 AM
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monk mode =/= not having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:07 AM
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It’s also meme-worthy at this point that extra-regular women set these ridiculous standards. Honesty it’s probably the most common discussion topic on these RP podcasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:20 AM
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I think #4 is reasonable. The rest sound like they are pushing for something more than casual. I also think that in this day and age, people have sex early, and then flesh out the relationship as things continue. I can’t think of a single relationship I’ve been in where it took longer than a month for sex to happen. I think Roosh said way back when that it takes about 7 hours of in-person interaction for sex to happen, which kind of coincides with the 3 date rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:48 AM
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Martinez is well known too, it’s just that his fame is in France. I don’t personally don’t know many foreign actors, but that doesn’t take away from their star power in their respective countries. Also, I think once you get past a certain threshold (seeing how you are talking about child support), income doesn’t matter. Taylor Swift is worth like 700M while Travis Kelcee is worth 40M. It’s not like he’s be struggling to spoil her/provide for her if that’s the dynamic they went for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:59 AM
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She’s dating one of the top male models in the industry. That’s not drastically beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:00 PM
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Women are only dating men drastically beneath them if it’s a situation like Brittney Spears and Kevin Federline, where they went to school together and have a long established relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:30 AM
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I love “living my truth.” Girl, just say that you’re hoeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:25 AM
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The manosphere addresses dating issues all the time. Even then that’s beside the point. This thread is about the fact that women could give a fuck less about men’s issues, meanwhile men go out of their way to make women’s issues a priority. Telling men to teach other men to be better isn’t addressing women’s lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:45 PM
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What does this have to do with anything being talked about in this thread??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:54 AM
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RP/manosphere men see through the bullshit. Each and every soundbite you have presented is because there are men out there who will fall over themselves to placate/patronize/appease women. Men’s support from friends/family/strangers is grossly less by comparison. Moreover, men generally have to show proof of value to get any sort of assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:24 PM
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They can use that same free will to ghost in the no-so-early stages as well. But yeah, I definitely believe in managing expectations when a relationship is just starting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:57 AM
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Being privy to the tenants of the manosphere doesn’t mean that every woman is going to be some gold digger that will leave you as soon as some Chad Thundercock gives her a wink and a smile. Touch more grass, and watch less of these “lol, women” podcasts The manosphere is full of a lot of heuristics and ragebait. It’s often by design, and was originally part of what kept people out back when “the first rule of fight club” was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:43 AM
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Just as you’re so sure that you’d be privy to any PUA tactics, I’m sure you’re not even someone they would go after in the first place. There is no subtle approach with PUA. You’re really solidifying the fact that you don’t read any PUA material. Meet-cute is stupid RomCom shit where the two people meet in a hallmark-worthy fashion. PUA’s make no claims of such things. That is, unless you’re trying to associate meet-cute with the fact that there’s more places to meet women than bars & clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:29 AM
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If you read “The Game” they talk about conversation starters, because women get compliments all the time. One of the examples they bring up was “I like salad, but I don’t like croutons,” or “what are your thoughts on saving old non-sexual girlfriend pictures?” The only compliments you should be opening with are the backhanded type. Its funny how you’re talking about “the same MO” but the typical “organic” conversation openers are “hi how are you” or “I’m Joe, what’s your name?” I really doubt yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:12 AM
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I’m also guessing that these men who are looking for dating advice had probably sought out these women because of their lack of dating success and that this was sometime prior to looking at dating coaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:00 AM
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You’re fixated on this stat — A stat that pulled specifically from Tinder, and no other dating apps (despite framing it like it was dating apps as a whole), and was from 8 years ago. I’m asking why it’s relevant to the original topic, considering that people cheat regardless of what medium they use to meet other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:54 AM
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A large number of people on TINDER aren’t single (based on the data you provided) And…yet again…what does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:16 PM
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So after going down the rabbit hole of finding the data, I see that it’s specifically Tinder users, and it’s a 2015 study. So maybe not go to the hook-up app when you’re not looking to have a legitimate relationship? And again. I don’t know what you’re getting at with this information. People like in real life as well as online. So what??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:02 PM
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No? I’m not sure where you’re pulling that “data” point from. Regardless, you can be married and trying to cheat without apps too, so I don’t know what you’re getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:42 PM
1

Apps have been significantly easier for me. I can meet women I would have never met otherwise. I (theoretically) don’t have to filter through women who have boyfriends or just aren’t looking date. I know that if we matched, then she’s at least somewhat attracted to me. I can filter out the dealbreakers without the need to even talk to her. I can rifle through hundreds of women as opposed to the handful I run into when I’m out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:33 PM
1

Sure. Men want to get their dicks wet on occasion because they have sexual urges. That doesn’t necessarily mean that “any sex” will do. Even men who like to use archaic phrases like those you’ve presented, will still have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:56 AM
2

I’ve certainly heard that before, and the only man who I could find to attribute that quote to was Mel Brooks, who isn’t exactly a thought leader in terms of relationships or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:28 AM
1

Good sex from desired women is validating. Getting starfish sex from a woman that’s clearly not into it is not. Even dudes who go after prostitutes want enthusiasm, even if it is feigned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:21 PM
3

Or…you could assume that that the OP doesn’t speak for all of us. If it was “just sex,” we’d promote prostitution, single moms, ugly women, etc a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:38 PM
1

To some degree, sure. I can still object if I think things are too lopsided in my favor. This is ONE of the reasons why men won’t fight back when women get violent. This is why, in sports you have parameters to make things more fair, such as Varsity/JV, weight classes, professional/amateur, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:47 AM
2

Part of it is just being better than they currently are. I could be complacent as an out-of-shape, disheveled, broke loser, or I could actively work on myself and be in a better position in life. Most men, even in RP spaces, don’t have this desire to reach the stratosphere of male achievement and value. They would rather not be amongst the dregs of society either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:49 AM
2

Education means shit if it doesn’t amount to a lucrative job. Looking at the relationship landscape when I go outside , people are generally pretty looks-matched. These surgical modifications are done by affluent women that are chasing top tier men. Most women learn to accept what they are shaped like. The more educated the couple, the more egalitarian the relationship is, and men in those relationships are more willing to share household duties and child rearing. The 80/20 rule is justified bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:05 AM
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IMO, The women that are willing to share are either: Poly Low self-worth Trying to leverage sex for a lifestyle and ultimately don’t care about the man. Most women aren’t trying to share the man they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:31 PM
3

Date younger women. My 30s dating was much better than my 20s, especially because i could afford to do cooler stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:46 AM
8

Potential is largely dependent on how far they have to go to be on my desired “level.” I think that we are all going through some sort of changes, but ultimately I want someone who is at least a functional adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:02 PM
3

That rationalization hamster just had a heart attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:13 AM
3

I would love to see what these mythical “desperate” women look like, and how much they have actually tried comparatively to their male counterparts. You have to have said money to solve the problems, and the current financial climate is pretty dismal. Probably not shelling out $100+ a pop (lolz) to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:25 PM
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Desperate women still have standards. Sex workers can get real expensive real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:58 PM
2

Be that as it may, they’re certainly out there, and they are in abundance. Or do you need some peer-reviewed publication for it to hold any weight??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:40 PM
2

I haven’t seen articles, but I certainly have seen my share of videos on YouTube/tiktok/whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:17 PM
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Again, you being offended by it is moot, and you’ve yet to provide anything to counter it. And with how much TRP has become mainstream, you’re wrong about your “make it better” statement. I was on r/teachers a while back, and there was a thread about how much Andrew Tate has started to spread in their middle/high schools. This stuff used to be confined to just to some dark corner of the internet. Now there are dozens of Fresh & Fit-like podcasts getting collectively millions of views. As long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:10 PM
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“it’s insulting” isn’t an argument, and you haven’t said anything to refute it. Also, your paraphrasing is definitely a symptom of another issue with RP theory. A lot of these things have been established for over a decade, but new people come into the space and misinterpret and/or bastardize a lot of the concepts. TRP has a lot of soundbites that are inflammatory, often by design in a clickbait style, and people don’t look for explanation. They just run with it. Except that OJ was found not gui…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:51 PM
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AFC: waaaaaaaa nice guys finish last. TRP: Stop being the nice guy. Do the work, and level yourself up. Women don’t care about your struggle. They wait at the finish line and choose the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:26 AM
1

I refuse to live with someone who doesn’t show that they give two shits about the basic upkeep of the space.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:45 AM
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No. TRP says that society is set up so that women don’t have to actually grow up. There are legal programs and social conventions in place that shield women from being held accountable for just about anything, up to and including statutory rape(Hermesmann v. Seyer) and killing their own children (Casey Anthony).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:14 AM
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Depends entirely on how much it costs. But honestly? Knowing how men function in terms of circumventing the cost of stuff, give it 6-12 months and someone has already hacked the site and shared it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:45 AM
2

Actual hot take: most women are interchangeable, and largely devoid of any traits that are noteworthy. The hotter they are, the worse it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:03 AM
2

I’m talking in general, not specifically this video. Also, I think the consent talk needs to be better established, because men are definitely held responsible for their actions of both people are drunk when having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:41 PM
2

Women are going to look out for each other. HOPEFULLY there was a conversation about intentions prior to going out. (I.e. “im trying to get some dick tonight”), but regardless, they are likely to err on the side of caution. There is often going to be the “mother hen” that is probably the sober and/or fat one that makes sure that they go everywhere together. I also wouldn’t be surprised if there is some internal dialogue of “if I’m not getting laid, nobody is getting laid.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:35 PM
2

I’ve noticed that as long as you’re pro slaughtering the unborn choice, and you don’t jack off every time you hear “Trump” you can get with most left leaning women. Seems like women are largely one-issue voters. Men often are too, but I don’t date men, so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:20 PM
1

I can blame people for not managing expectations, for sure. I can also blame people who exploit others for shits and giggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:12 AM
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You’re ignoring the fact that being ugly doesn’t mean you’re attracted to ugly. Women can reach higher up the attractiveness scale, because too many men are thirsty. A 7-8/10 dude can go dumpster diving every so often because he’s hit a dry spell. There are also an abundance of 49er women, because society loves to inflate their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:43 AM
1

So you’ve mastered being an armchair psychologist. Yeah sure ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:14 PM
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Unless they have a way to deal with their stressors and the causes of their depression, popping pills isn’t going to do much for their situation. You don’t stop being lonely just because you are on Zoloft.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:33 AM
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Social skills, job/education, and hobbies don’t translate to being [genuinely] nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:38 AM
2

Never lead with your wallet. That’s like RP/PUA 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:52 AM
2

That’s oddly specific for the concerned one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:16 PM
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The “trust” thing is just amusing. One of the top stories in r/TIFU was someone that did a 23 & Me for a holiday gift and found out that their dad wasn’t actually their dad. Speaking of responsibility vetting women, it’s funny how you say that but when we talk about not wanting fat chicks, party girls, single mothers, certain professions, shitty relationships with their parents, etc., we get demonized for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:36 PM
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I don’t know how women are so complacent with the idea that the wrong men are pinned as the fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:27 PM
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I really don’t care. You guys are so fixated on periods and childbirth, when my point is that those things can be mitigated much more than the disadvantages that men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:02 PM
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This is just wrong-headed. Women routinely get lesser punishment for the same crime, and the media helps to placate it. For instance, when a male teacher fucks a female student, they will used terms like grooming and statutory rape. When it’s a female teacher and a male student, it’s an “affair” and they will even argue that she can be too pretty to be incarcerated. Also, a person doesn’t suffer a harsher crime because other people commited that crime in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:53 PM
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IMO, Men are valued by different metrics than women. Men are valued for money, power, strength and influence. Women are valued for youth, beauty, fertility, and chastity. So you’d be comparing someone like Elon Musk to someone like Sommer Ray. Being top 5% is pretty nonexistent as well…men OR women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:18 AM
2

Sure. That said, periods/childbirth aren’t some sort of mic-drop in this privilege discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:06 AM
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Ok, and? Women who do want children often revel in the fact that they are the “bringers of life” and all that. There are plenty of contraceptives that minimize or essentially eliminate periods for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:31 AM
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I think the average male is much less privileged than the average female. I think top tier men have more privilege than top tier women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:42 AM
1

That’s the wrong calculator…you want this one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:19 PM
1

It’s about how they rationalize their standards. That’s what I’m getting at. “It’s how I was raised” essentially translates to “I was taught -what- to think and not -how- to think.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:08 AM
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Obviously you missed the point. Standards or not, it’s about intellectual consistency. This is on the same level as the people who say “I’m X because of my astrological sign.” You’re capable of of rational thought, then use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:52 PM
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I’ve talked to plenty of them for one. There are several trends, for two. For example, most feminists are non-religious and pro choice despite plenty of them growing up in religious pro life households.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:06 AM
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It’s interesting how “it’s how I was raised” is still an acceptable answer when the people who say that are more than willing to defy several other aspects of how they were raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:51 AM
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If you lead with you’re wallet while dating, you’re doing it wrong. Being rich doesn’t equate to having looks or social skills. Cost of living in your area matters. 100k a year in CA isn’t special, while in AL, it’s huge. The background of the women you’re trying to attract also matters. I’ve dated women who made more and who made less. I made enough so that they didn’t think I was broke, but I wasn’t exactly showering them with gifts, fancy dinners, and trips to foreign countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:18 PM
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I do think it’s a question of -which- sex workers. Men (and I’m sure plenty of women) aren’t huge fans of the idea that someone who is middling-to-hot can become a millionaire by having sex on camera, especially when consider the fact that sex is something that billions of people have done. It’s not some amazing skill. There are people who did several years of schooling that have never and WILL never make as much as some of these 20-somethings that are showing pictures of their feet, and mailing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:39 AM
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I wouldn’t want someone was a huge IG following. Also, I’m getting “boss babe” vibes, which I could also do without. Just MY humble opinion though. I’m sure I would care less if I was also an influencer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:50 PM
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No. They articulate that men shouldn’t be with sex workers beyond having their fun with them. The conversations had with these women also shows off the delusion these women have simply because they have a lot of simps & cucks giving them validation, while the men these women actually want won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:45 PM
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Pretty sure they weren’t “caught.” They just openly mentioned that it was one avenue for bringing girls onto the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:39 PM
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I love the intellectual dishonesty. It’s like comparing the risks of injury/death between golf and bull riding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:21 PM
2

Shotgun method is more effective than sniper method when you’re talking about the propagation of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:45 AM
2

With how much these RP podcasts and TikTok’s are spilling into the mainstream, I would need a pretty decent convo before I’d try to pin someone as red pill. Just random mention of Andrew Tate/F&F or talking about high value men wouldn’t really convince me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:03 AM
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Here’s some reading. This stuff has been a thing for generations, especially with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:18 PM
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“Gay for the stay.” When these dudes know that they aren’t getting access to women for the next 5-10-20 years, then they will improvise. They will definitely go right back to women the second they get out tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:41 AM
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You act like apartments don’t exist. I’ve never had a woman turn me down because I had an apartment instead of a house. Just because they don’t want to shell out money for a house [yet] doesn’t take away their independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:57 PM
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They might be able to teach men about how to be “house poor.” Buying things they can’t afford because they want to live a certain lifestyle. Yes, men are generally the risk takers. Men are definitely the ones the value independence more, but male independence is the expectation. You don’t hear guys touting about “strong independent men.” Also the investments I mentioned are all low risk, especially compared to buying a house. Nice try tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:37 PM
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Women also want to pay for lifestyles that men don’t. The common meme is a man has barely more in his apartment than a couch, a mattress, his tv, and his gaming system. Women decorate, and spend money on their brunch dates catching up with their girlfriends, clothes they will only wear once or t ice, and fancy trips all over the world. Those same women couldn’t tell you shit about Index Funds, ETFs, or even basic things like HYSAs or CDs. When looking as a percentage of income, women spend signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:49 PM
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This meme was debunked several years ago, including the two people being interviewed. But let’s assume for 2 seconds that he was just some friend-zoned dude. Some women LOVE to play dumb when men are doing grandiose I-wanna-date-you gestures. And the dudes are just paying for all this stuff like the pussy-beggars they are. If I’m doing activities like Top Golf or Horseback riding without any romantic intent, it’s generally not going to -just- be me and a woman hanging out. It would at least be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:13 PM
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“Most” may be pushing it, but a significant portion of women value themselves for more than they are, and because of that, they aren’t attracted to their peer groups. Also, being hot isn’t the end-all-be-all when it comes to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:59 PM
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You asked what’s stopping them. I told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:53 PM
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A lot of average men DO get girlfriends. But there are also average men that suck at talking to women, and there are average women who have self esteems that’s are grossly disproportionate from their proven worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:20 PM
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I’ve been too enough dive bars to see that fat slob drunk men have fat slob drunk girlfriends. Water seeks its own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:41 PM
2

Tell that to Tom Leykis
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:15 PM
2

If you’re the star quarterback of the football team, you’re getting plenty of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:49 PM
1

Status is king imo. When I see some of these celebrities getting women throwing themselves at them without even really having a conversation, it’s clear that they are going based off their status/social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:35 PM
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The kind of women who do that are equally good looking and equally lacking in personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:55 AM
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I don’t think that is how things work. I think they will initially chase after someone based on their appearance, but if the compatibility isn’t there, they aren’t going to ride on the strength of “OMG they’re so fucking hot” to put a ring on it. Unless someone is just lonely and destitute, they aren’t trying to marry someone they aren’t even compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:12 PM
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I remember Chris Rock talking about this in one of his stand-ups. He’s got star power, but he knows that women would only fuck him to fund a lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:18 AM
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You’re really preaching to the choir here. RPers have continually said that looks get your foot in the door. I’m just pointing out the conversation that has been talked about for decades. Men KNOW looks matter, they just delude themselves in thinking it doesn’t matter all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:58 AM
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Yeah this is bullshit. Men have always known that looks mattered. The big cope was that other qualities would make up for it, but they only do under specific circumstances. You will continually hear lamenting about “if she would just give me a chance,” from the less fortunate that [supposedly] have great personalities, but they get passed up for the hot douchebags. It’s only been recently that women are talking about “find yourself a nerdy guy” or praising dad bods, and that’s from more a pragma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:00 AM
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I’ve met a lot of them in the club scene. I’m a happy drunk, and I can dance, so I was just fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:22 AM
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Many men are more than willing to use a woman as a glorified form of masturbation. All that personality, compatibility, etc goes out the window when it’s just sex and nothing else. There’s is a strong correlation with being hot and being painfully dumb (Looking at all the Red Pill podcasts out there). And it’s not her “glowing personality” that’s winning men over. Not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:08 AM
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Id say the equivalent of a promiscuous woman is a simp (especially if he’s broke). When you think about how the male/female exchange is sex for resources, a promiscuous woman is giving away sex, while a simp is giving away resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 12:17 AM
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This seems more low-effort than usual. I imagine that the majority of misogynists are straight. Gay men tend to lean pretty heavily on their friendships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:55 PM
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There’s a debate over what characteristics such as whether it’s charisma, money, status, etc. when it comes to looks specifically, there seems to be less variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:50 PM
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Whites during the civil rights movement. Male feminist Border states with the flood of illegals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:14 PM
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Tell that solution to women who already have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:35 PM
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Most women don’t know those stats. Even if they do, there is probably some degree of Peter Pan “it couldn’t happen to me” mentality. Waiting until your kids are 18 is a long ass time to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:23 PM
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Ok, so you’re talking about taking care of legit family. Babysitting, coaching, mentoring, “big brother” programs include either getting paid or volunteering, and they are generally for short periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:15 PM
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Nothing like the constant reminder that your woman was with another man. Every dollar you spend on their kid(s) is a dollar the dad doesn’t have to. Also, I personally am not a fan of the idea that a man spends the time/energy to build himself up just to have to deal with raising a kid he didn’t even help create. As Richard Cooper says, stop overcomplicating your life and then trying yo justify why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:52 PM
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This is talked about in RP spaces all the time. The value of a man is seen in his ability to attract a lot of women. A value in a woman is seen in her ability to keep a man. Plenty of women have been ran through by half their college classmates, but can’t seem to figure out why none of them want to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:17 PM
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Perks of being the “chooser.” She can be as dysfunctional and low quality as she wants to be, and so long as her standards aren’t outrageous, she can still find men that are higher than her socioeconomically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:34 PM
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I didn’t say that. Read what I said again…slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:25 PM
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I think the real problem is that not enough people give a fuck about men’s issues, and that includes other men. And the instances where men DO try to create male spaces (MRAs for instance), they are grossly sanitized, infiltrated by women, and/or demonized as misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:16 PM
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16% is quite the improvement, but you make it sound like they are going to just overtake men in the next couple years. Generally speaking, women still opt to have a husband that makes more than her, and according to the PPD women, they are more than willing to stay single until they find that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:05 AM
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My thoughts on “drunken consent” If you can’t consent after drinking, bartenders should only be allowed to provide one serving of alcohol because you’re no longer able to consent. Saying “I was drunk” is not an excuse if you choose to drive and get pulled over, but the standard isn’t held when you choose to sleep with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:26 PM
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Just because I’d give the dude a side-eye, it doesn’t translate to me thinking he should be incarcerated due to accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:07 PM
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Fair enough. I actually would add that the online sphere influencer culture has had a super huge impact on the delusion, and not so much professional sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:16 PM
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Most men aren’t rapists and woman-beaters, but #NotAllMen was countered with #YesAllWomen. So even with the fact that most men will treat women with respect and dignity, a significant number of women will still “act as if.” It may be a personal problem, but thousands/millions of women have these personal problems that don’t exist in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:57 PM
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Now you’re moving the goalpost. The woman in the video you shared clearly isn’t white. White men are top tier in Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:44 PM
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Seeing how nobody is going to try to interview every woman on the plant, generalizations are going to be made. This goes back to the “all guns are loaded” heuristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:35 PM
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If she’s been to college, just assume her N-count is no lower than 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:30 PM
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Why do you care that the hiring manager said that your job was going to pay starting at 80k a year, but once you went through all the interviewing and training it turns out that you’re getting paid 40k? People conduct themselves based on the expectations that were set. If the reality isn’t the same as what they have been continually told, then they should be able to be upset about it. That said… I look at videos like this. Tupac was talking about the same shit that men are talking about today, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:14 PM
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Marriage vows don’t mean shit these days. Especially when we’ve don’t things like “90 day fiancé.” I DO understand and agree with your main premise though. There should me more thought/screening that goes into marriage. People just kinda suck sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:53 PM
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I guess it’s also a question of what age range you’re looking for. As a 30s man, I place my range at 5 years older and 10 years younger. Most of what I’ve been coming across hovers around 5-7 years younger, but I haven’t had issues really finding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:50 PM
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Yes it gets easier for men and harder for women. The pendulum doesn’t swing so far that it’s easier for men -than- it is for women though. I’m using a hypothetical where both of them are pretty plain looking, and not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:53 AM
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Does Elliot Rodger count? His dad was the producer for the Hunger Games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:21 PM
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In an average couple the woman is the one that actually shits out the kid. That’s about where it stops. Average couples share chores and child rearing. More specifically, they figure out between themselves what works best for household functionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:14 PM
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No, because generally they don’t choose someone with the same amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:01 PM
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As Tom Leykis would say: Women want this richest man they can attract. Men want the hottest woman they can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:56 PM
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In other words, in 84% of those of households the man is the breadwinner, which is still a pretty drastic disparity. If it took 60-70 years to get to this point (women in the workforce, age of feminism), I’m guessing it will likely take at -least- another generation or 2 before we get to more of a 50/50, but even that may not ever happen. We have seen in Scandinavia that the more egalitarian a society, the more women choose to go after lower paying jobs. Are Gen-Z women MARRYING their male count…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:25 PM
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It’s not important, per se. It just re-emphasizes that women like to pick and choose when they want their equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:13 PM
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A man with money will change a broke woman’s life A woman with money won’t even look in a broke man’s direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:51 AM
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Simp behavior is when you continually do shit that’s not reciprocated. So even the examples you gave (flowers/compliments) would be simping if she isn’t doing anything to validate you in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:49 PM
2

Firstly, i don’t believe you, also… Doable vs likely to be done….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:50 AM
7

Be that as it may, the majority of men will never reach those numbers…ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:14 AM
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I think it’s stupid. I think one of the things that separates modern men from modern women is that we don’t constantly campaign to make our shortcomings into a good thing. Because of which, there isn’t this constant deluded sense of self. Most of us will never: be professional athletes. run multi million dollar companies fuck a bunch of women that are smoking hot will be able to bench 225, squat 315, DL 405 make more than 100k/year be so well known that we have a Wikipedia page It’s ok to be reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:26 AM
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Didn’t we just talk about this less than a week ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 05:37 PM
15

Good looks will be more important to the chronically online. People are still going to look regular as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:22 PM
1

Daytime group activities/events such as joining a team of some sort, going to a book club, or a cooking class. And yes it is an app, but “meetup” is cool for finding activities in your area based on your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:10 AM
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A dudes eyes are often going to stray even if you had Caucasian features yourself. Men are pretty indiscriminate when it comes to nationality/features if you’re attractive. Regardless of whether or not his eyes stray, if you’re good to him and he actually recognizes that, he will be more likely stay loyal to you. Bear in mind that nothing is 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:01 AM
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It’s funny how so many people’s -first- resort is sex work instead of their last.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:16 PM
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Claiming to be “nonjudgmental” is a huge red flag. Having a lot of guy friends. Military background. “I don’t date black guys.” (Yeah I said it)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:11 AM
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“Gay for the stay.” Obviously that’s an extenuating circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:41 PM
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You can showcase your life whether you have kids or not. Shitting on the “other” for being other is what will warrant a lot of pushback, which was my main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:51 AM
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Being single and childless is all fine and dandy, but you don’t have to be a dick about it and shove things in everyone’s faces. I’ve been enjoying the childfree unmarried life, but I don’t need to showcase it for everyone to see, and when people ask when I’m going to settle down, I just say “have you thought that maybe I am settled?” The family unit is still the foundation of a society, and the left has done anything and everything to delegitimize anything that resembles Leave it to Beaver.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:24 PM
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I’m talking about having that inclination in the first place. If someone is curious/confused, they may be open to exploring those things. If a man has zero intimate attraction to men, it’s ludicrous to suggest that they just “go gay.” Additionally we should acknowledge the wealth of literature from the GayBC crew about how it’s not just an on off switch, they can’t be “fucked straight” and they can’t simply “stop being gay” even in the face of all the harassment /abuse/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:37 PM
19

Are we really saying that homosexuality is a choice???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:11 PM
13

Rollo’s “Saving the Best” is a good read that covers this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:47 PM
3

It was an analogy. Maybe it’s the big house, fancy trips, or a desired lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:47 PM
4

Right…they’re just vessels to acquire the objects that you want to buy. He’s not the fancy Louis Vuitton bag. He’s the truck that delivered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:01 PM
7

Now look at all the Onlyfans women that lost their day jobs, disowned by their families and all that. Most people who are currently at, or teetering on celebrity status can get away with that. In fact, for women actors, a full frontal scene will extend their longevity for a few years. Average people, and political figures, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:12 PM
15

Nice red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:17 PM
2

Someone who dates someone because they need a place to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:15 AM
3

A lot of legal paperwork you can just skip over because you’re married. Tax advantages Prestige in some circles That’s all I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:13 AM
8

Don’t get married Don’t move in with someone knowing that your livelihood depends on them. I’ve had my share of hobosexual girl buddies. It rarely works out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:30 PM
10

Women may be earning more, but they still choose to pair off with men that are -at least- making as much as they are. And this “leverage” doesn’t really mean anything if their partners could give a fuck less about their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:57 PM
14

“The day you start working out is the day you are forever small.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:58 PM
2

Don’t read too much into that part. I was mostly taking their phrase and throwing it back at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:42 PM
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$20 says she’s not traditional. It’s hard to be traditional in this era. I couldn’t imagine many women wanting a man to know where they live without vetting them to some degree first. Also, men have wisened up to the fact that too many women are users & leeches that have no compunctions about using a man for a free meal. Some of them will even take the leftovers of said meal to the dude they are sport-fucking while they try to date. A woman I went on a few dates with asked my opinion on gender r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:49 AM
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If you think RP is just about dating, then you haven’t been in the space for very long. MGTOW is just as RP as the rest of them, because being “redpilled” is about having the awareness of how society works. What is done with that information is up to the individual. People like Stardusk and Barbarossa have had a huge influence on the RP spaces back in the early 2010s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:18 AM
2

Yes they do, and clearly you’re not familiar with TRP if you think otherwise. RP is the wealth of information that deals with interpersonal dynamics between men and women. You have the self-improvement/PUA types that are trying to navigate and “play the game” MRAs are trying to “change the game,” mostly from legal standpoints MGTOW are have rejected things and just opted to “not play the game.” This is basic 101 level stuff here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:12 AM
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MGTOW fall under RP, and so do MRAs. Sorry some RPers don’t live up to the strawman that you’ve built.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:19 AM
2

Methinks you didn’t even bother to read, because your first link is the same link that I posted in my reply. Additionally, your second link talks about cosmetic vaginal surgeries as a whole, not specifically tightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:35 AM
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“A few thousand and growing.” Interesting way to say that you don’t know. According at this research, up to 76% of women experience decreased sensation, decreased friction during intercourse, and altered sensation associated with a generalized feeling of vaginal laxity. Seems like a shitty way to spend $5k, and I would imagine that women who are aware of these numbers wouldn’t do it electively.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:59 PM
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There’s no way to be “absolutely sure”. I just met a woman and the bar who was with her boyfriend. She had 3 kids and divorced after 24 years. Her boyfriend had 2 kids and divorced after 20. You’d think things would be solidified after 10-15.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:43 AM
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And how many women are trying to get said surgeries??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:36 AM
14

Women, generally speaking, want someone closer to their ages. He’d have better chances of getting the woman that isn’t young enough to be his daughter. The barrier to entry is still much higher for 20-something women. They have more men chasing after them, they have social circles you have to mitigate (a non-zero number of them will likely call it weird/creepy), and maturity levels that you may or may not want to tolerate, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:04 AM
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Phases in life matter. If she just wants to party and fuck hot men, then she’s likely to not do much vetting. If she wants actually find a relationship, ‘tingles’ might not be the most prevalent thing on her priorities list.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:26 AM
2

I’m just a squirrel trying to find a nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:24 AM
8

Save haven laws allow for women to drop their kids off at police stations/fire stations/hospitals and abandon them without repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:35 PM
4

What are your thoughts about moms that utilize safe haven laws? That’s -also- your tax dollars at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:52 PM
7

That doesn’t really capture what that phrase means. Be physically attractive enough for women to not stonewall you upon first approach. Don’t fuck it up by saying/doing something stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:30 PM
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Red Pill is what gets your foot in the door. You can’t talk about mutual respect, shared values, “resonating energy,” etc if women aren’t even talking to you in the first place. This goes back to the idea of “be attractive” and “don’t be unattractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yeah, I spent some time browsing through that site. It’s amazing how these people STILL try to convince themselves that “the past doesn’t matter.” If simply someone’s -existence- in your presence is problematic, you might want to reconsider whether you want to be with that person. Maybe you should work on your “insecurities.” Maybe not. I know I’m not trying to go against my gut just because women want to whore around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:59 PM
1

Yes, exploring different things with your partner will help to keep the “spice” in the bedroom. Is it a complete fail safe? No, but it should prolong things for a while, and it gives the couple a chance to explore their sexualities and their kinks and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:43 PM
2

Sex Work Exclusionary Radical Feminists are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:09 PM
10

As “widely accepted” as it may seem, it doesn’t take much digging to find that most parents aren’t cool with their daughters doing sex work. There are plenty of Twitter/YouTube pages have text conversations and/or stories of women being disowned by their friends & family, and can’t find decent men to date because of their line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:08 PM
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Honestly, I think men should stop defending it. “Yup, you’re absolutely right. I AM insecure. You probably shouldn’t waste your time with me. k thanks, bye.” I refuse to let someone shame me into tolerating what I don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:08 AM
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I don’t know who’s content you’ve been following, but one of the things TRP repeatedly talks about is “doing the work.” Several of them have specifically mentioned that there’s a point when it stops becoming informative and it just becomes entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:09 PM
1

I don’t think what you look like has bearing on what you like to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:08 PM
1

Upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:08 PM
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No. I don’t think there’s a trend of women cohabiting with the same men. Men that are trying to fuck around with multiple women are either going to live on their own, or they are going to step out on their main woman. Unless the women’s schedules are so opposite each other, that he can easily jump back and forth, it’s just not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:01 AM
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I think it’s also telling how they will be hesitant to reveal their number if it’s perceived to be large, and/or they have to make up rules about whether or not certain instances count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:57 PM
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Not really. That was my parter. Sometimes you do things that you’re not completely up for. And she would generally reciprocate in some fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:17 PM
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I’ve done it before. I’ve been sick before and I said, “as long as you’re on top the whole time, you can have at it.” Normally 1-2 times of that kind of stuff and she will forego trying to make me have “duty sex” because it’s not sexy, and she can’t really get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:02 PM
2

I would think the CM/LW would work better because LW still like men that take on leadership roles and want to protect/provide. The hours upon hours of relationship podcast material out there now, the general consensus is that women want traditionally minded men (which means that they will likely lean conservative).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:05 PM
2

Assuming he’s attractive enough to be in a relationship with her in the first place, what does his hotness have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:58 PM
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There are a few things going on here as far as I see it. Women’s attraction to men tends to hover around men their own age. And being 35+ means they should be in full stride with their careers and aged out of the party scene, so they’ll want men with their shit together and of similar maturity level. Women know that they can’t control getting older and can only accept whatever good/bad experiences they had in life and move forward. In a “just” world, men be willing to accept women’s shortcomings…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:40 AM
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In most books written by women for women, the most common love interests are Billionaire, Vampire, Werewolf, Pirate, and Pilot. So power and having a dangerous aspect to them. TRP talks about women’s attraction to Dark Triad (arguably now the Dark Tetrad) personality traits. The whole nice guy/bad boy discussion has been around long before the pillsphere was even a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:06 AM
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