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Then why do you keep telling men that you are strong and independent? I’m not. I never have. You must be confusing me with someone else on here. You said you would have waited until marriage if it wasn’t for women peer pressuring you. No, I didn’t say that. And you know I didn’t say that. I said I would have been a virgin for longer. But you already knew that. So why are you being so facetious? I blamed the culture that told women those things were okay. I also blamed myself. Both of these thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:59 PM
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Women are not “strong and independent.” Lol. That’s such a joke. It was a term that the feminists created to create a narrative that women can do anything a man can. Until men can start giving birth and having babies of their own, women will never be “strong and independent.” Also, they’re the only reason you acted the way you did, but it isn’t their fault. Please refer to where I said that they were the only reason. Again, you’re talking one off-hand comment I made about how women pressure othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:28 PM
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The pressure from other women is what tipped me over the edge, but I don’t blame them. I never said I did. They were duped by the culture, doing what they thought they should be doing. I too have encouraged peers to have sex in their college years when I was still naive, which I realize I should not have done. are men pressuring you into promiscuity? No. But the culture includes men telling other men to be promiscuous. Which is also a problem. Lol. Now you’re saying things that I didn’t even say…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:47 PM
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I don’t blame the women. I know it’s my own fault that I didn’t have strong enough morals or boundaries to not do the dumb things I did as a teenager. Looking back I should have waited until marriage. However, even admitting that I can still say that the current culture is damaged and is telling people that they should slut around when they shouldn’t, especially in a college atmosphere and when you didn’t grow up in a religious or conservative household. Both of those things can be true — I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:25 PM
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What does my comment have to do with accountability? All I’m saying is that the culture and attitudes of those around you has a huge influence on your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:27 PM
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I agree with this, I would definitely have been a virgin for a LOT longer than I actually was if it hadn’t been for college culture and pressure from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:52 AM
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Fair enough. There have been men like you that I’ve been on dates with who don’t believe me when I tell them I am waiting for marriage. That’s fine, it’s good to weed out people you know you’re incompatible with early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:32 PM
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Traditionalism for traditionalism. Modernity for modernity. You keep saying this yet you won’t elaborate. Care to clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:17 PM
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Exactly why men are better off just keeping it to baby mamas And those women are dumb to have kids with a man outside of a formal commitment. Especially so for the ones who want to be SAHM’s. why bother with her highnesses demands in the first place What’s so demanding about wanting to be the feminine role in the relationship and my partner to be the masculine one? Furthermore, a date isn’t a pregnancy No, but if I’m dating I’m doing it with the intent of marriage. I’d rather know whether or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:05 PM
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There are plenty of women who don’t have a problem with it, so why should men give you the time of day? I will still split on first dates. But I expect that initial offer. There’s nothing less unmasculine than a man asking a woman, “Can you pay for your meal?” 🤣 Muh strong independent women I don’t really care about being a strong independent woman, as long as my man is capable. When women have babies, they sure as hell can’t be independent as much as they try to be. If I’m single, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:40 PM
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Agreed, proving that you have the ability and willingness to pay for me is attractive. Even though I would always offer to split the bill on the first date, I still expect the initial offer. If not, there are plenty of men who wouldn’t have a problem with it, so why should women give you the time of day? It becomes a red flag when men insist on paying, though. I’ve been on a couple dates where the man offers to pay, I offer to split, and he gets downright offended and angry and doesn’t let me. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:03 PM

Both men and women are losing sight of hope and value in relationships and a decline of religious and traditional values is a big reason why, and also not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:27 AM
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No. I find that the term “feminism” is constantly changing depending on what’s convenient for the argument and the political landscape at the time. Maybe by standards a few decades ago I would have been, but definitely not today. I am also somewhat traditional in a lot of ways so I don’t feel a big need to dismantle the “patriarchy” because I believe that the man should be the head of the household. I also feel that feminism teaches young women that it’s good to express sexuality outwardly to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:14 AM
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That’s because when girls are young and naive, they tend to be manipulated by the culture talking around them that it’s fun to have no-strings-attached casual sex. All her peers are doing it, and guys will like you more if you know how to have fun. Unless she grew up in a sexually conservative household where she had parents that were able to shield her from this and teach her strong boundaries and self-respect, every young girl is a victim of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:18 PM
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Yeah I know, this is why I barely bother with this sub anymore. I’m against porn but that’s because I’ve experienced firsthand its negative consequences, not because I’m bad in bed. As if porn-addicted men are so much better at sex than the ones who aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:38 PM
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If women “dabbled” as much as men they absolutely would. Women are a lot less likely to admit to being addicted to something that’s primarily a man’s hobby, but some women like Billie Eilish have admitted to it. Even I’ve had porn addictions from the age of 11 at various times in my life. There’s nothing “cool” about addiction, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:03 PM
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But it still has the same psychological effects on both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:50 PM
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Typical female trying to demonize porn cause it makes men less thirsty and raises men’s standards. You do realize it does the same thing to women, right? Porn addiction is real for both genders and can cause a woman’s sex drive and satisfaction to suffer — not just men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:10 PM
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Same here. If my husband made a ton of money I would rather just be a SAHM and do all the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:13 AM
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I don’t think true equality works in a relationship, at least not in the sense that everything should be 50/50. I do more of the housework between me and my boyfriend and we still split our expenses evenly, plus we also work equal hours. I feel like with kids though it becomes more complicated. I would absolutely expect him to do equal parenting regardless while we’re both home but that’s because childcare is a lot more unruly than cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. You don’t get a break from kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:54 PM
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I’m curious on where the line is between these two types of women. At what point do you become the first group, and what makes you worthy of the second?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:02 PM
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That's good then! As long as you enjoyed it. Self-care comes in many forms.
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/22 07:47 PM
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If he says he wants you to join, take his word for it! But if you really don’t feel up for it, maybe do a little cleaning (but I personally wouldn’t want to waste an entire Friday night doing just that) and then take the rest of the night for self-care. I like to use my weekend nights to do the stuff that I normally wouldn’t have the time to do during the week like take a bath, shave, paint my nails, and then watch a show or movie that I love or read my book. Or invite some friends of your own o…
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/22 07:00 PM
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Promiscuous women are often the most hypergamous And you know this how?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:33 PM
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Yes, but by doing that you’re self-selecting for the party girl types who tend to be more promiscuous on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:32 PM
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I don’t disagree, but you’re a lot less likely to struggle to get laid by going to places where promiscuous people tend to frequent, aka bars and clubs. Not saying there aren’t promiscuous women who don’t like to go out, it’s just less likely that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:49 PM
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Right, I agree that different women are attracted to different things. But OP is selecting specifically for the party girl types who tend to be more promiscuous than the average woman. So of course it’s easier to get laid by going to those places where the promiscuous women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:45 PM
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I think his point was that plenty of women aren’t going out to bars and clubs every weekend like OP does. Even women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:17 AM
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And those same women who are over 25 and single still get told that they’re running out of time and they better find someone to settle down with, while completely ignoring the fact that they were in a long-term relationship for the entirety of their early 20s. I mean, dating Leonardo DiCaprio isn’t exactly a smart idea if you’re looking for something to last, but still. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. This is why women are doing a huge disservice to themselves by dating someone for too…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:04 PM
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Yeah, I’d be constantly terrified for his safety if my husband played football, especially on that level. Almost none of those players are physically and mentally the same after they retire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 01:58 PM
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Why do women determine your worth? Why is sex the only thing that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:56 PM
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Ah, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:06 PM
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Being wanted by men as a fleshlight doesn't mean you have value. For both men and women, true value goes well beyond sex. Once the sex is over you have nothing left to offer and you'll get thrown to the curb for the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:03 PM
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Why does there need to be a sexual activity stipulation? Value doesn't necessarily increase the more often you have sex, if anything it does the opposite effect once you get to a certain point because it means you can't control your genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:59 PM
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Genuine question, how can you expect a guy to be already successful when he's still in college? When I was in college I didn't know a single guy who didn't spend most of his free time playing video games and smoking weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:55 PM
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It’s never okay to forcefully kiss someone without their consent, doesn’t matter whether or not they’d like it.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:30 PM
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This article uses really gross wording too. If Katy Perry suddenly gives you a kiss, wouldn’t you love it? Most guys would probably say yes — and kiss back. They’re literally using the argument that men are “lucky” to be assaulted by a woman. Imagine if that was said about a man.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:12 AM
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There are men that find TRP early and still desire a relationship or marriage one day. Some have ended up marrying more traditional/red-pilled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:15 PM
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So TRP men are just forever in their hoe phase? What does that say about TRP men who are married and in LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:33 PM
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Am I missing something here? A single parent is a parent who's...single. I wouldn't count being in a committed relationship/marriage to someone else who's not the co-parent as being a single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:45 PM
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There's less of them but they still exist. They just aren't typically in the same places where all the non-traditional women are. They're in churches, Christian colleges, and other places where the traditional young men are. It typically depends on how she was raised, but there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:42 PM
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Yes, I'm aware. Traditional men typically marry traditional women, usually when they're both young. So I don't see how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:15 PM
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I seriously think the men in this sub thinks that's what all single moms are actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:09 PM
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Then they don't have to create a family with her. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:03 PM
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The men that walk out on their families are not the same type of men that want it the old way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:55 PM
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I don't think your experience is actually the majority though. My dad got full custody of me when I came out of foster care. My mom was an alcoholic like yours, although she wasn't on hard drugs or abusive or anything like that. At the end of day it probably comes down to how biased the courts are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:45 PM
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If you're divorced with kids, you're still a single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:35 PM
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I love it when my partner touches me. That doesn’t mean it always has to lead to sex, it’s just fun and intimate for us. If a woman doesn’t like her man touching her then she must not be attracted to him.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 12:29 PM

"Hey, you know how men are still beholden to old social norms that are harmful? Let's call that toxic masculinity!" Harmful social norms aside, even men who want to be masculine by choice are still being called "toxic." But then you look around and see that traditional masculinity is still what most women are attracted to and expect in their partner. (Yes, I'm aware femboys are becoming popular among a minority of women.) I don't even disagree with a lot of left/feminist points - they just do a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:30 PM
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It’s not that I think there isn’t any truth in the red pill in terms of male and female nature, but their tactics just won’t work on me because I know what to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:26 PM
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It’s already becoming normalized. And there are more than just a “couple” of celebrities where the woman is taller than the man besides Tom and Zendaya. Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, Jason Statham and his wife, Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman, Kevin Hart… I could go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:18 PM
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Yes because marriage isn’t seen as a status symbol anymore and people are getting married because they genuinely love the other person. It’s not that people aren’t getting married anymore, they are just smarter about it and waiting longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 12:57 PM
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It means that there is no evidence that suggests that people in relationships nowadays are worse off because of social media and dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 12:54 PM
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Actually the divorce rate was highest in 1980 and has gradually declined since then. Obviously social media and dating apps didn't exist back then, so there must be more significant factors that are causing divorce. But like the other commenter said, millennials and Gen Z haven't been alive or married long enough for us to know whether or not this trend will remain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:03 PM
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My company celebrates it during the month of November and we typically hold incentives to raise money for men’s causes, which both men and women employees participate in. I work for a large company but it’s not on the same scale as Google.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 09:50 PM
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They think they want to be like men until they are, and then they realize that relationships and children will bring them more fulfillment than any amount of money ever will. I almost feel bad for women, because they’ve been sold a lie their entire lives that they should only strive to be educated and successful, and if she wants to be a wife or a mother, then she gets shunned.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:09 AM
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A lot of them already have figured it out. Yes, marriage and kids brings people more happiness and fulfillment than money, shocker.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:05 AM
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I’d say single parents in general even. Kids have the best outcome when they’re raised by two parents who have a happy relationship.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 05:47 PM
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The mother raising the child isn’t always the better option for the kid. I would probably be on the streets if my mom raised me.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 05:19 PM
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And that’s great for you and everyone else as long as you’re happy. There are still plenty of men that desire relationships and are happy in their current ones. I think telling men to just not desire women and relationships isn’t helpful for the ones that actually want one and are happy in their own.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 04:44 PM
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I’m not very optimistic. I think things like mental health, abuse and domestic violence towards men will increase in awareness like we’re already starting to see but I don’t think much will actually be done about any issues. Men will still be expected to have their traditional responsibilities and women can’t change what they’re attracted to.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 01:12 PM
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Yes, you are right and that makes sense. I didn’t realize tips were untaxed.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 01:04 PM
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Well I think that premise is wrong. As long as he’s not tipping her more than he would for any other service worker.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 12:58 PM
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We view sex differently then. Not a bad thing, just a difference in values and morals.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 12:56 PM
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By not tipping you’re only hurting the service workers who don’t make enough on hourly alone. The standard is 15% and 20% is only recommended if the service is excellent.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 11:06 PM
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If you don’t think helping people is a part of life then that’s on you. Nothing I can do about that. You still never answered why you committed to refusing to help women. And what about what I said is so hilarious? Are you telling me that if a fat, ugly homeless woman, clearly on drugs walked up to you asking you to have sex with her, you doing that would be equal to you helping a woman grab something off a shelf?
/r/MensRights21/08/22 07:00 PM
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Having sex with a stranger is a completely different experience from helping someone in need. You are not giving a part of yourself away for doing a quick, simple favor for someone. Helping people is the main part of being human. We are supposed to care for each other in times of need. That goes for men helping women, women helping men, men helping men and women helping women. Like I said, even though I would not sleep with that homeless man I would still give him money if I had any. If you go t…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 02:45 PM
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Alright, I’ll bite. There’s several answers that would apply here. I’m in a relationship, I wouldn’t want to pointlessly raise my n-count, I don’t want to reduce my worth and value, I would feel disgusting and guilty for the rest of my life afterwards. But if that homeless man needed actual charity, I would be more than willing to help. If I get stopped on the street by a homeless person, I almost always try to give some change if I have any on me.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:51 PM
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And that needs to change. Including men willing to help other men.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:23 AM
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It was a serious question...
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:19 AM
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But what’s the whole point of not helping someone in need? To satisfy your own ego? I really don’t get the reasoning behind intentional coldness to strangers.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 06:56 PM
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And more men should feel comfortable asking for help, it’s unfortunate that they feel like they can’t or shouldn’t. Even so if a man seems like he needs help with something there is nothing wrong with a simple offer and if he declines then that’s the end of it. Of course there is a small safety risk involved with intervention but at the same time you might just make someone’s day. I just don’t personally like that society has gotten to the point where asking someone for help or seeing if a stran…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 01:35 PM
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The situations you described when you helped women were justified, though. Helping out a stranger in need should be the norm, whether they’re male or female. I think that’s a lot different from being a “white knight” that only comes to a woman’s rescue with the hopes of getting laid.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 01:14 PM
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I definitely think something is coming, hard to tell right now if it’s a good or bad thing. Only time will tell. I wouldn’t call myself a unicorn, I think I’m just an average person with fairly common beliefs. I know a few other women who think the same as I do. Liberal feminist in my teens until I grew up and realized how the world worked lol. But thanks for the welcome.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 01:31 PM
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I’m not one of ones complaining about men not approaching. Never had that problem.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 01:25 PM
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This is why I predict that Gen Z women will become largely anti-feminist compared to past generations. We are already seeing them start to push against casual sex and sex work now that women are realizing there is nothing empowering about being someone’s fleshlight.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 12:16 PM
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Do you realize how many unhealthy and unintelligent women exist?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:08 AM
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Yes, exactly. They generalize men constantly but hate it when men generalize women.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 01:25 PM
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They don’t actually hate all men, they are being purposely hyperbolic. The issue is that this type of language isn’t helpful and only creates division. Saying something you don’t mean is stupid regardless, but it’s especially harmful when you’re attacking an entire group of people.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:21 PM
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Not sure, I think I’m probably around equally romantic and realistic. Depends on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:04 PM
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As a woman, yes this is exactly it.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:18 PM
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There is no room for men’s issues on the left. All the left wants politically is to virtue signal toward helping “underrepresented” groups, and faze out anything that remotely goes against that. You won’t find any progress in men’s issues, in fact it’s the opposite.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:16 PM
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Imagine if it said boys And what’s wrong with that?
/r/MensRights08/08/22 12:36 AM
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Laura Doyle and Suzanne Venker are the most obvious examples I can think of. On a less intellectual level, there are influencers like Mrs. Midwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:30 AM
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Did you mean to reply to me?
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 12:49 PM
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Having a kid as a single mother already is a punishment.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 12:32 PM
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Which is disappointing especially considering that a man finishing inside a woman without her consent or taking a condom off in the middle of sex is considered rape.
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 11:12 PM
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Makes sense that people in a sub who are anti-life and procreation would also support feminism, the most obvious thing preventing that from happening.
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 11:07 PM
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I completely agree with you. I don’t believe in divorce - it’s the ultimate failure to me, especially with kids, and I will make every effort possible to make sure it doesn’t happen.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 02:08 AM
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Ripped jeans. Sagging pants. Tucked in shirts (that’s not for work). High-top shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:26 AM
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That's true for almost any industry though, not just sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:04 PM
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I don't get why so many US man (probably christianity) beg women to get babies, it should be the other way around. Women profit from children more. It already is the other way around, it seems like more women than men want kids. And women are a lot more willing to become single parents than men are. Most men do want marriage and kids at some point, they just don't want to do it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:18 PM
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Eh, I see it more as knowing what you want and refusing to let your time get wasted. Theoretically it sounds good to "just see where things go" but that falls flat when next thing you know you're 30 and you've been with someone for 6 years but haven't discussed marriage beyond "it will happen eventually", and you realize you've wasted all that time with someone who isn't serious about you and you have to start over in your 30s. When you set that expectation from the beginning and you set boundar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:38 PM
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You dont have to worry about shitty conversations of “so what are we” or “when can you meet my parents” or “i want children soon, so we should talk about marriage” 3-6 months into a relationship with a woman in her 30s. This is kind of true if you met super young (like teens) or while in college. That's where I met my current partner, and we have a timeline for marriage and such set, but if I became single again (I'm 22) I would make it clear to whoever I date that I wouldn't wait more than 2-is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:25 PM
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There is a big difference between a woman with a career and a career woman. I have a career, but it's not my only priority and I don't make it a large part of my identity. I have a career because that's how I make a living. Once I get married and have a family, that will become my #1 priority, regardless of whether or not I have a career. Work stays at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:19 PM
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Do you live in an area with a super low COL? It's just very rare for a 24-year-old to be able to afford a home AND provide for an entire family on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:10 PM
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I’m a woman and I 100% relate to the OP in this post. While it could very well be fake that doesn’t mean it’s not realistic.
/r/AntiFeminists16/07/22 04:40 PM
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And just to add to this, both men and women have qualities of both strength and weakness. It’s nothing to be self-conscious about, it’s just an aspect of being human. Like you crying on your GF’s shoulder doesn’t make you a weak man, and me not being able to lift as much as my BF at the gym doesn’t make me a weak woman. Men and women complement each other, they’re not in competition. What is weak for either gender though is thinking that you’re somehow inferior or superior because of these thing…
/r/AntiFeminists16/07/22 04:38 PM
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How is it a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:26 PM
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Women still need jobs where they’re able to make a decent living though, regardless of their beauty. They need to support themselves somehow. They’re not all sitting back and accepting money from randos or being supported by someone else, and they’d be pretty stupid to accept support from just anybody. And making a lot of money doesn’t mean you’re not passionate about your job either. Just like how making not-so-good money doesn’t mean you’re passionate about your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:12 PM
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Women who have nothing else to offer except their looks won't have much going for them, unless she's attractive and savvy enough to get into acting, modeling or influencing. Even if she finds a HVM willing enough to make her a trophy wife, he will really only value her for her looks. Any woman who's short of model-tier needs most if not all of those things. Even for the ones that are extremely beautiful, women learn pretty quickly that being valued solely for your looks isn't all that it's crack…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:55 PM
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I'm not shaming you or anyone, simply stating that this isn't the right place for you to vent. There's other subs dedicated to that. Everything you've said is stuff we already know. And your comment sounded like it was directed at the OP and comes across as more of an angry rant than something actually helpful.
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/22 03:27 PM
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OP doesn't want to be a "modern woman" - she literally said she wants to be a traditional housewife. The women on this sub actually want to be submissive and traditional. You sound bitter and deranged, this space isn't for you.
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/22 02:05 PM
14

It hurts the female gender too.
/r/AntiFeminists04/07/22 12:59 PM
4

Just like with everything in life, it depends on the woman. That woman struggling to conceive at 35 could’ve also struggled to conceive if she started at 25. It’s really hard to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:11 AM
3

Uhh this is misleading as hell. My BF is average and he still definitely hurts me when he goes too hard sometimes. Bigger is not always better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:06 AM
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Yeah I don’t get the point of lying, but I also don’t see this coming up in many relationships in the first place. I’ve never known what my partner’s counts were and they never asked for mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:05 AM
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I want to be ~25 when I get married and start having kids by 27/28. I want to be entirely done having kids by the time I’m 30, or very early thirties at the latest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:21 PM
2

Maybe we should tell women that if they decide to decorate, clean and tidy the house they should also have to pay the rent. I already do all this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:10 PM
3

are American women encouraged to do so by family or is this not emphasized in the west? Yes, we are told the same things: don't marry young, get your education first, never become dependent on a man. My own parents told me not to get married or have kids before 30, although I'm planning on doing both of those things within the next few years (I'm the same age as you) because I realized I actually want those things and my priorities for myself are not the same as my parents' for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:09 PM
3

The wage gap doesn't exist. Now get out your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:02 PM
1

Most men want to settle down or they're already married before 35 anyway. The ones who aren't usually aren't trying to sleep around as much as they were in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:01 PM
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Oh wow, just checked OP’s post history and this changes a lot.
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/22 01:12 AM
9

Men here that are pro-life: If you got a girl pregnant and wanted to keep the baby but she didn’t, would you prefer this arrangement rather than abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:45 PM
0

Hard, honest work > shame and guilt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:47 PM
6

Sorry a woman’s never shown you a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:49 AM
5

This. Why would a woman want to be with someone who isn’t a Chad to her, even if he’s average to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:27 AM
3

Idk, my guy likes being submissive in the bedroom, although I don’t ever ask him to, he just puts me on top. Not letting him move or touch me is the hottest thing. We make a game out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:22 AM
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you’ll be spending 10-20 years of your life paying off only to get a not so highly paying job The only people that take this long to pay off their loans are irresponsible enough to go to a school that got them in $50k+ debt or they just paid the bare minimum to satisfy the minimum payments. If you’re gonna go to a school that costs $60k a year or get your graduate degree then at least get your degree in something where you don’t have to worry about making payments on time. You can also do what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:19 AM
2

Comparing using condoms perfectly every time to not using any birth control whatsoever is a bit facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:47 PM
1

Not sure why you're asking me, I think the terms "success" and "loser" are entirely based on himself and what his priorities are. If he's happy and doesn't care about those extra dollars, then he could very well be a success in his eyes. You even said it yourself that his business is "successful", so isn't that itself a measure? But owning any type of business that gets any traction whatsoever is actually impressive, most people don't do the work that's required to even get to that point. It tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:45 PM
2

I don't necessarily know why the stipulation for being ethical has to exist anyway. Doing sexual favors to climb the ladder is a thing, a phenomenon that while probably not super wide spread, is virtually exclusive to women. That's my whole point, it's really not possible to climb the ladder without hard work in a way that doesn't require giving up your body or using your looks in some way. There are plenty of women regardless of attractiveness that would much rather work hard than do those deme…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:40 PM
3

Is there an ethical way that a woman could avoid doing the same amount of work to get to the same place?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:50 AM
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Condoms are terrible way to prevent pregnancy if that’s the only thing you are using. Hard disagree, my LTR and I have been using them for a couple years now and never had an accident. They are only ~1% less effective than hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:44 AM
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Exactly. People are promoting the complete opposite of this where we’re seeing “productivity culture is toxic” and promoting self-care and good mental health. Most people regardless of gender aren’t actually doing anything great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:42 AM
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I watched the Warren Jeffs documentary last night and and the reality is that many men fantasize about much younger than 18 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:54 AM
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Ah, I understand now. Yeah, I can agree with that. I don’t necessarily think age gaps are bad in a moral sense as long as both people are happy. That doesn’t stop me from thinking they’re still often a bad idea. Maybe I’m just strongly biased because I’m currently having to deal with the repercussions of having a much older father, but that’s another topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:56 PM
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seems like a practical reason but not a moral one. Meh, I’d argue that when choosing a life partner you need to think long-term for sake of protecting yourself. Same reasons I’d advise women not to have kids outside of marriage or become a SAHP if you signed a prenup. I’m all for self-sacrifice once the commitment has been established, but that’s after you’ve vetted someone and determined they’re worth sacrificing parts of you for. I personally don’t see what’s wrong with not wanting to be 55 wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:02 PM
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You could very well be right. Maybe it is personal bias, but on the flipside of your statement, I have yet to see evidence for these types of relationships working out long-term. Even the age-gap relationships where one partner is very wealthy, they most likely have iron clad prenups in which gold diggers are less likely to divorce their spouse and those doesn't really tell us much about the state of the relationship itself. I have nothing against people wanting to date younger or older as long …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:45 PM
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Makes you wonder why so many people are having kids so much later then. That's just my personal opinion on that, I understand a lot of people don't care as much about that or simply aren't thinking that far ahead. But that's a big reason why I want kids earlier rather than later. But as long as neither of you want kids, can bigger age gaps work? Like 20 year age gaps? I'm not sure honestly. I think it really depends on the reasons why you're in an age gap relationship. Usually when a woman is da…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:34 PM
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It's not that much of a stretch for short-term relationships, but it makes much more of a difference when considering things like having children with your partner. I actually want both of us to be able to keep up with young grandchildren as well as not having to worry about taking care of him when I'm still a lot of younger and healthier, or worse, having our kids worry about it when they're still young and starting their own families.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:30 PM
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Yup. Women want to date older men, just not 10+ years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:48 PM
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My parents are 16 years apart and their relationship was extremely toxic. I think the only people dating someone extremely younger or older than them have internal issues they haven’t resolved. Or one of them is very rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:46 PM
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I don’t know what you did or the extent of the hurtfulness you’ve caused, but you can’t possibly know that your mistakes will outdo all of the good stuff you’ve done and will do. If those people can’t and won’t forgive you after you’ve tried, that’s on them. You have no choice but to look forward and try to build something great by yourself. You just have to find it within yourself (and with God, if you’re religious - but even if you’re not, the subject of God and religion can probably answer a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:29 AM
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Humans are doing good things everyday. You might not see it or hear about it because the media purposefully plays out all the bad things for us for the fear factor. The beauty about being human is that we are intelligent enough to find our own paths in life independent from others. You say your experience is hurtfulness, so you could always choose to do the opposite and dedicate your life to doing good things. Would that still make your existence hurtful? You’re already here and alive after all,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:00 AM
2

You might be the only man on PPD with this opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:42 AM
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I highly doubt most of these same women at the wedding were to even remotely the same degree swooning over their boyfriends/husbands alone at home a week later. Except you’re just guessing at best. There is no reliable way to actually know what happens behind closed doors unless you recorded them illegally. Doubt means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:40 AM
1

How many men actually feel like this is something that they need to do though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:34 AM
1

Q4ALL: Do you think that looks over time and aging is more dependent on lifestyle, genetics, or a mix of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:45 AM
2

Makes sense, that explains why I’ve been struggling to burn fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:00 PM
2

That would explain why I have a flat stomach yet no definition there haha. I’ve been working out consistently for months and eating alright, but for the life of me can’t lose fat/gain muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:58 PM
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Yeah, doesn’t getting abs mostly come down to just eating well? Like I’ve heard that everyone has natural abs, it’s just a matter of losing all the fat on top of it to make them visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:46 PM
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Except you’re not a man so how can I prove to you that men think about sex all day and when they go in public are always thinking about sex from visual stimulation? You can be horny a lot without fucking everything that moves, aka being a slave to your genitals. promotes good mental health I seriously doubt sleeping with as many people as possible is good for your mental health. I’d need you to try all the junk food brands until you can appreciate what this amazing homemade burger is. You think …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:13 PM
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As long as I want him, that's good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:16 PM
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I'm not saying sleeping around is good for women, but it sure as hell can't be good for men either. Teaching young people that it's okay to be a slave to your genitals will always have consequences both for the individual and on a larger societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:14 PM
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This 100%. I wouldn't want to be with a man who had no self-control of his genitals in his past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:06 PM
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Except OP did the same thing. Slept around in his 20s and now wants something stable. They had the same "strategy."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:01 PM
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First of all, your emotional state does not have to be the end-all be-all. Looking to God and prayer is a good start, but God gave us mental health resources for a reason. Even just talking with a therapist or looking into some sort of prescribed medication could help immensely. There is no shame in doing any of these things, and are much better than doing things that encourage "falling into sin for comfort" as you put it, which will just make your depression worse. That being said, I think plen…
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/22 04:16 PM
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No one is expecting an answer like that on a first date. But if a couple doesn’t have the same goals in mind while dating and they don’t find that out early, they are just wasting each other’s time. A woman dating with the intent of marriage doesn’t want to date a man who doesn’t even know what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:19 PM
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This is different for you because you’re not dating with a set goal. For a woman who is dating for marriage, she is doing herself a huge disservice by dating men who don’t have the same goal in mind/are extremely vague about what they want. If you don’t have the same goals and values, it’s best to get this out of the way early so that no one’s time gets wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:16 PM
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the ones who get casual sex, are seen as the coolest, get the most children, etc This is seriously your definition of a good role model to be teaching young boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:40 AM
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It looks like they could just rename themself the christian movement and it would still perfectly fit. TRP promotes the literal opposite of being Christian. They have casual sex with multiple different woman and are anti-monogamy. The advice they give to women is to try to tell them how to lock down the best man possible, and marriage is the most secure way to to that, whether men like it or not. This is why you have many younger men taking advice from TRP and claiming they will never marry and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:07 PM
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Personally, I’d rather live in a city with a low cost-of-living where I don’t have to worry about paying my bills and still have plenty of discretionary income leftover. I can see the appeal if you’re UMC/upper class though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:52 PM
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That’s the thing though, he is speaking about a minority of women since the majority are in relationships. Use your brain a little bit. Yes, there is a looks quota because women want to be attracted to the men they date. At the same time the guy has to decent enough to keep her commitment. And I don’t disagree with anything you’re actually saying. The difference is that I don’t villainize the women doing and saying these things, I think it’s more a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:50 PM
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Which ain’t a problem, if it was universally agreed upon. Explained roles, and whatnot. This is precisely the problem right here. We as a society have become so hell bent on erasing all gender roles and pretending that they don’t exist, when in reality there are situations where they still apply most of the time and we are just lying to people about what men and women are looking for in the name of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:05 PM
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US is a big place, majority of Americans aren’t living in cities like NYC or SF. And now a lot of them are wisening up and realizing these are not good places to live, hence why plenty of people are leaving big cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:40 PM
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Women are not taking care of themselves and don’t age as well. What are women doing (or not doing) while they’re young that cause them to not age as well as males?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:23 PM
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Doubt this, cities like London are a LOT more expensive than any medium-sized city in the Midwest or South and even some other regions. Most single people can live very comfortably on a $50k salary where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:16 PM
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How can women give all their attention to the guys who only want sex when the majority of women are in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:54 PM
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I’m saying it makes you want sex more and it becomes higher on your list of “needs.” Similar to an addiction, the more you do it the more you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:42 AM
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I suppose, but I’m talking more about types of touch and intimacy that only couples normally do. Without this it can be really hard to know your partner appreciates you. Just to be clear I think any type of “need” you have in a relationship is totally valid as long as you are communicating these with your partner. I also think a lot of it comes down to self-control and busy-ness. If you’re distracted and not using things like porn to enable your thoughts, that can really decrease your sexual nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:36 AM
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Yes, it’s a part of it but it’s not the only way to give/receive it. Like I said, it depends on the couple’s lifestyles and libidos. One couple could be fine only having sex once a month and kiss and cuddle the rest of the time. As long as they have that positive reassurance from their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:12 AM
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In relationships, sex isn’t necessarily a need but physical intimacy is. The degrees to what that looks like depends on the couple, their compatibility and libidos. For example, on one extreme you have religious couples saving themselves for marriage. They wait potentially years before having sex but most of them still kiss, touch and and are intimate in other ways to show they like and are attracted to each other. On the other extreme you have an extremely high libido person with very specific …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:04 AM
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Does it not surprise you that social media-obsessed people that like to show their body for likes don’t just suddenly stop caring about that as soon as they enter a relationship? Guys who choose to enter relationships with these types of women know exactly what they’re getting themselves into.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:39 AM
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I don’t model my entire existence around pleasing men. I like being feminine and learning how to be more so because my own femininity was repressed my entire life, and I came to this sub to learn how to take it back. And I like to learn how to be a better partner to my man, that doesn’t mean I’m a thankless doormat for him.
/r/RedPillWives10/06/22 11:38 PM
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What part of it sounds like abuse?
/r/RedPillWives10/06/22 11:33 PM
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It’s simply about understanding male and female nature. I certainly don’t let any man control me.
/r/RedPillWives10/06/22 11:31 PM
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I think anyone who posts anything online at least to a certain extent does it for validation. That doesn't stop just because someone is in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:52 PM
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Do you think that looks correlate with abusive tendencies in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:47 PM
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And you have no other points. You have rhetorical questions because, like many other women, you refuse to concede a single, simple point. I never denied any of your points or that women have biological clocks. All my original question was asking was why older fathers are better equipped to be parents. You answered that but I was wondering if you actually thought it was exclusive to just men, because that's what it sounded like from your original comment. All I'm saying is that there are very val…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:43 PM
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What they also do it employ rhetorical questions when they’ve got nothing to add. Who’s they? And it wasn’t rhetorical. So I’ll say it again: If your claim was that men don’t have biological clocks and women do, then why does it matter the age that someone’s a better parent? You can argue that for either men or women regardless of their clocks. Women have biological clocks. Yes, I’m aware. You keep saying this yet you refuse to address my other points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:50 PM
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Why even make that a point then if the conversation was about biological clocks? I think we can agree that if women could still have kids without complications post-45 then they could be better mothers at that age. I'd still argue that no one past 35 or so should be having kids, man or woman. For many reasons that have nothing to do with biological clocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:47 PM
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Your original comment was exclusively for fathers, not people in general. Why aren't women better mothers the older they are due to life experience, wisdom and money but men are better fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:31 PM
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No point of comparison. I liked the way my man looked without facial hair, then after he started growing it out, I really liked the way he looked with facial hair, and I made that well-known. But since I’ve never seen him with facial hair before he grew it out, I had no idea how he would look with it, so it’s not like I was saying, “You would look better with facial hair!”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:16 PM
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Their comments show up as [unavailable]
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:50 AM
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Men are better fathers the older they are How do we know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:08 AM
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I think we're talking about the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:46 AM
2

Just got blocked on here for the first time by someone I haven't had a single interaction with LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:39 AM
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You’re actually both correct. I feel like I’m lacking in what I never learned growing up so I try to make it by pampering my partner and trying to be overly-feminine. But based on what the other poster said, I also found it extremely difficult to relate to my peers growing up because I never felt comfortable wearing dresses, makeup, or planning my dream wedding or husband. I also was childfree for almost my entire life because I thought I would be an awful mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:10 AM
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Yup, can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:03 AM
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God, I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:03 AM
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Everyone says run away from a girl with daddy issues but what if I got mommy AND daddy issues 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:42 AM
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Same girl, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:38 PM
2

Nah, mine are quality time and physical touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:18 PM
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My old user actually used to be PPD_Throwaway lmao then I gave up on that and started using my main.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:07 PM
1

I took Spanish in school for years and I still learned way more on my own than what those classes ever taught me. Would love to go abroad and finally test it out IRL, no idea when I’ll even get a chance to do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:52 PM
2

Haven’t you two been together for years now and he still hasn’t met your mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:49 PM
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I would argue those situations shouldn’t even count because those people are still on the market and probably still looking at their other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:48 PM
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Well, think about it: If x number of women are in a relationship at any given time, assuming most are monogamous and straight, then that would mean x amount of men are also in relationships. That's my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:40 PM
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I can agree with that, but let's not pretend that men aren't simping over women way above their own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:36 PM
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I agree, I thought I had a "type" of guy I wanted to date until I met my current partner and that changed. He's definitely not the type of guy I would've imagined myself with but I fell in love with him and we're still going strong after 3 years. I have a hard time relating to a lot of the women that the men here speak of when it comes to "too high standards" because my relationship is definitely as close to perfect as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:33 PM
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You're right about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:30 PM
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And I’m saying she’s an idiot for thinking and hoping for that while continuing to sleep with someone who she knows doesn’t care about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:08 PM
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I agree completely. I’m just simply pointing out that people not finding someone that “checks all the boxes” so to speak won’t stop them from settling. Why can’t they be ostracized? Because people are allowed to have whatever standards they want to have. You even said it yourself: being in a thankless relationship is no better, so do you think women should be pressured to date below their standards and preferences and take that risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:14 PM
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So then what’s the solution? Should women be forced to date below their preferences and standards so that men have a better chance in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:11 PM
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The difference is that those women aren’t truly “unavailable” like you say if only sex is involved. If it’s only casual sex she wants then without a doubt she’s still out looking at her other options. If a woman deludes herself into thinking she’s in a relationship just because they’re having sex that’s her own fault. Only dumb women hold out for commitment from these types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:09 PM
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I’m not defending it at all. I’m just stating the fact that plenty of people would rather enter a thankless marriage than be alone. I don’t think it’s a strawman because even in your own comment you just said: alpha widowed women are 100% causing huge amounts of men to end up alone Which shows that the answer to my question is in fact, yes. You do think men ending up single because of women’s standards is in fact the woman’s fault. And since that’s the case, my follow-up question to that is: Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:06 PM
1

I'm talking exclusively about genuine relationships, not FWB-type situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:34 PM
1

Actually there isn’t. If 10-20% of women get alpha widowed and are perpetually dissatisfied with their peers then that means 10-20% of men end up alone too Not really, even alpha widowed women still eventually get married. You could argue they might not be as happy, but that doesn't mean that alpha widowed women are causing men to end up alone. This is you people’s go to strawman. Please educate yourself It was a genuine question. You just seem to be putting a lot of the blame on women in this t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:32 PM
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He's not destined to be with that one woman and ONLY that woman. There are plenty of other women all with different preferences and criteria. Or do you think he should be entitled to whatever women he wants and if he doesn't meet her standards she's to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:45 PM
1

So basically anyone can be a Chad then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:40 PM
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If he's Chad he doesn't need to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:33 PM
1

This means that the women they are dating also have rosters of men they have short term relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:31 PM
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There’s a huge number of women who spend their 20’s playing musical chairs on a small number of high value males. This means that there’s a huge number of men at the bottom who get nothing Most women are monogamous and typically only date one person at a time. They're not going around taking turns of the same guy like some sister wives shit. If most women are dating someone at the same time, that means the men are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:27 PM
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Do you think this is also true for couples in a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:51 PM
1

3 years into it is still the honeymoon phase? Definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:39 PM
1

Good thing my 3-year relationship has consisted of none of that on that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:33 PM
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Yup, this is exactly how my current relationship started. 3+ years later and still going strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:52 AM
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Most people tend to just fall into relationships while focusing on other things. It’s not necessarily something you just decide to invest in like the stock market and see where your money goes, most people get into relationships because they just like the person’s company. If your relationships seem like a waste of time I would really examine the type of people you are spending time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:04 AM
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Neither did I have any examples of that growing up. I thought I was supposed to be doomed to life in a trailer with an abusive druggie boyfriend. I still somehow, by the grace of God, made it work. It’s very possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:34 PM
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Except when you find someone while you’re both young, it’s less likely she has a past that makes you gag. The longer you wait the more likely it is that she slept around. I too would not date someone who’s past makes me gag. And I got lucky that I found my partner when we were both 19, if he was a 30-year-old former fuckboy there would no way I would date him. My perspective is probably different from yours though, because I actually want kids before I’m 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:29 PM
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There are plenty of unmarried women who pay taxes and don’t leech off the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:56 AM
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If you decide to have biological children, your wife is basically writing off a good year-ish of her life and putting her body through all that, not to mention doing most of the childcare and housework during that time, especially so if she becomes a SAHM. Why wouldn’t you want to provide for that? Even if you don’t have kids though, most women still work. The only ones who don’t work without kids are the wealthy trophy wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:53 AM
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Sure. I have a lot of respect for celebrities that have a strong set of values despite their fame and fortune. Blake Lively because she seems very family-oriented, married and had kids relatively young. She’s also very classy and a fashion/beauty icon despite all that. Sophie Turner, in a similar boat, married and had her kids young and seems to be very grounded, she believes life is about raising the next generation. She also refuses to show her kids online and exploiting them for clout like ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:41 AM
1

I wouldn’t really count political figures as celebrities in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:15 AM
2

D. B. Cooper is a media epithet used to refer to an unidentified man who hijacked Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305, a Boeing 727 aircraft operated by Northwest Orient Airlines, in United States airspace on the afternoon of November 24, 1971. The aircraft was flying from Portland, Oregon, to Seattle, Washington. The hijacker extorted $200,000 in ransom (equivalent to $1,338,000 in 2021) Uhhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:12 AM
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Who are some celebrities that are generally worth looking up to? I’ll start: Natalie Portman, Blake Lively, Sophie Turner
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:52 AM
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No, we don’t mind as long as you are respectful about it. Even if I’m not attracted to you I’d still be flattered by the effort. Doesn’t mean I have to accept your offer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:42 AM
1

Not a fan of the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:44 AM
1

Are you saying that NY would be your State A and Michigan would be State B? Because both of those states are at the farrrrr bottom of my list. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:36 AM
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Lots of girls learn from a young age that being valued solely for your looks is not all that it’s cracked up to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:24 AM
2

In terms of net worth, sure. But 50k just laying around? That’s rare for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:14 AM
1

You’re no fun
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:12 AM
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I never said you were living together, but unless you’re willing to be in a LDR most people would like to live near their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:10 AM
1

So you’d be willing to be in a LDR?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:08 AM
1

Fantastic! The mountains are the best FWB, you can ride them all day long and they won’t complain. 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:07 AM
2

I think a lot more Gen Zers are anti-abortion than they’re willing to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:04 AM
1

Just pretend for the sake of the hypothetical 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:34 AM
2

If you have $50k saved you’re still doing better than most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:06 AM
1

What details would change that for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:00 AM
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Q4ALL: You and your partner want to move to a new state. Your first choice is State A, but your partner wants to move to State B, and won’t even consider State A. You still love State B, but it’s your second choice. Which would you choose: State A and potentially ending your relationship, or State B and stay with your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:55 AM
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Or sometimes if she’s like me, she’ll see the text in her notifs and gets distracted meaning to text back later, but inevitably forgets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:01 AM
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I mean, if you’re so confident that it won’t last, then you’d be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:58 PM
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Well, according to that calculator, there’s a higher percentage of men making $40k and above than the $25k. And $40k is at the lower end of a starting salary for a college graduate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:26 PM
2

So women are delusional no matter what standards they hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:18 PM
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But we all compare ourselves to others and for the most part have a general idea of where we stand in dating. Sure. But just because you might be able to aim higher, it doesn’t always mean it’s the better option. women since they have the ability to sleep with and garner attention from men, who, on paper, have more qualities about them that would be considered attractive. Those men are also sleeping with lots of attractive women, why would they have lesser egos than the women they sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:16 PM
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Are these men getting into a relationship? Likely not as college is mostly just hooking up. This isn't true, most guys I knew/know in college have had one or more relationships at some point in college. It doesn't always last, sure, but people dating and going on to marry someone they met in college is extremely common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:04 PM
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Yup, that calculator is definitely not at all accurate. I put seemingly higher standards than you did, and somehow I got 2/5 (down-to-earth) by putting this (my actual standards): Age: 23-28 years old (exclude married) Any race Height: 5'8 (exclude obese) Min income: $40k How the fuck does the math add up? The only thing I put in that's lower than yours is the height by one inch. Even so, having only 11% of men meet my standards is still considered down-to-earth by this calculator. And I thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:57 PM
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Just dont complain about non-commiting 7s and how you arent happy with these worthless 5s Do people actually think about other people in this way? As if they are just a number to be played with? I think a lot of this is more subconscious than you probably think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:47 PM
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Even with very reasonable standards that female delusion calculator will always give you a low percentage. If you exclude 90% of men using those parameters, you're still considered "down-to-earth."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:38 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly with this. As someone with a bad upbringing, I ended up fairly well-adjusted all things considered and have worked toward re-evaluating my life, priorities and values. I had a short-lived phase of promiscuity back when I was desperate to lose my virginity because I believed the feminist lies I grew up with. I often blame my upbringing and parenting for my teenage mistakes, but I’m still the one who made those rash decisions and it’s something I struggle with, even though I…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 12:40 AM
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This is true, most millennial and Gen Z couples I know met either in college or through work after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:52 PM
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Well yes, I agree with you. But why can’t they meet up somewhere in the middle for dinner once a week? Or stay longer on the weekends? If you really want to spend more time with someone you find ways to make it work.
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/22 09:35 PM
1

Sure, 95% of men on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:53 PM
1

I was speaking in the context of a long-term relationship. Looks still matter but my original point was it takes a lot longer to find someone who meets the other criteria than someone you're just simply attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:45 PM
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Your point was that there’s a looks threshold? That’s no secret to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:37 PM
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Well, you're not gonna get to talk at all if you don't even match with each other. But even once you get to that point, there are things that you don't realize until you've been getting to know someone for a while. People can lie on apps and that doesn't give you the full story anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:32 PM
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If you give an average man 50 average options to choose from he’ll not struggle at all to find one and be happy. How do you know that he will be happy with just one if 50 attractive women are all interested in him? If you give an average woman 50 options all of a sudden it’s an impossible task. I don't know why you think it's impossible, but it's harder for sure. Women have to vet for different things that men do. Men primarily care about looks, fertility and youth. Women primarily care about st…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:28 PM
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No shit, looks are the only thing that women have to go by on Tinder. You can't possibly know someone's moral code, maturity levels and compatibility through a dating app. You have to date someone for a while to know whether or not they fit this criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:16 PM
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You're the one who brought the male experience into it. This is how I know you don't understand the female experience, by asking me how a man would feel about something that is exclusively a female problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:12 PM
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Yes, he would be ecstatic. Then he'll realize that he has to vet out 49 of them to find his life partner. Which could take years or even decades of horrible experiences in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:51 PM
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It's not about thinking you're better than someone, it's about compatibility, lifestyle choices, personal values and beliefs, attraction, maturity, etc. So many things go into choosing a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:21 PM
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As if having a decent looking dude in your DMs solves all your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:04 PM
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“Worthy of dating” means very different things for everyone. Someone can be “worthy” of dating but not be attractive to that particular person. There’s a lot of nuance here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:03 PM
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Why do you assume most women have 500+ followers and that at least half would be guys? I would personally be very weary of allowing most men to follow me unless I already knew them personally. And I don't think most women know 250+ men personally. On my personal account, most of the people that follow me are other women, probably at least 75%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:50 PM
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Well, you have to actually build that following of quality guys first which isn't always an easy thing to do, unless you're approving of women making their account public and putting in a bunch of hashtags to attract creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:44 PM
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I'm religious but not the extent that I think we need to control what consenting adults are doing in the privacy of their homes. But some religious folk tend to still believe that sex is for procreating, and you have to at least be open to conception if it does occur, so birth control = bad. This belief is really only still held by super devout Catholics, who are opposed to birth control even inside marriage. Other Christian denominations don't typically have issues with birth control. The Bible…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:39 PM
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Any average women could put up an Instagram post saying “hey, I’m single, dm me” and be absolutely inundated with messages from really decent dudes in 15 minutes. How can you possibly know the quality of the dudes that would message a random girl on Instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:21 PM
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Yeah, 30-45 mins away isn't exactly next door but not long enough of a distance to not be willing to spend more time together imo. Don't take this the wrong way, but it kind of seems like he just wants to see you for the intimacy part of your relationship and not much else. Do you happen to know what his love language is? Maybe he just doesn't put in the effort to spend more time with you because that's not really the way he wants to receive love. I could easily be wrong though. Either way, if s…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/22 07:48 PM
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Why do he desire to only see you once a week? For a couple that has been together for a year, unless there is a physical barrier between the two of you, once a week doesn't seem like a lot of time to spend with someone you're serious with. I am hoping that when we move in together, I will feel more inspired because we are around each other more and won't be communicating via text, however, I am feeling anxious about it. Which brings me to my next point: If he only wants to see you once a week no…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/22 05:36 PM
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So then doesn’t that contradict your argument that men only care about weight? Women have to do more than just don’t be fat to open men’s doors, they have to be as attractive as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:44 PM
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Attractive men aren't dating Butterfaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:13 PM
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I'll agree with others in the comments that if you're feeling like you're "settling" for someone this early in the relationship, it's kind of a bad sign. Also, you're acknowledging that you believe you're more attractive than him from an objective standpoint and that you can easily attract men. So, the question is, would you be able to date him and not be upset when you see more attractive or masculine men? If those more attractive or masculine men give you attention, would you be able to not be…
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/22 06:36 PM
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I agree, so what is the ideal age range for you to have them in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:02 PM
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Lol if you could go back though, would you rather you have had them sooner?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:02 PM
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Even at like 30-33? I don’t think there is a significant difference to having kids at 32 versus 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:27 PM
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Q4M: Would you rather have kids younger or older, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:26 PM
1

What is the guy’s standards for when he “needs” to clean it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:24 PM
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That sounds hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:18 PM
2

But amount of time spent working also matters too, no? If your wife works more hours than you, regardless of income, doesn’t it make more sense to pick up some of the slack when she’s not home? Even if she’s the “feminine” one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:18 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:13 PM
1

Boston? Don’t you mean Buffalo? And how do we know he was an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:01 PM
1

And how exactly do her friends, stories, and behavior let you gauge a number?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:19 AM
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....But you just said you don't care about the exact number. So how do you know if she's a slut or not if you don't have a number? Like I said, she can enjoy sex and be sex positive but also have a low n-count, so I don't think behavior is always an indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:23 PM
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For sure. I think the issue though is that people have their own individual expectations that they don't communicate to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:38 PM
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So the number actually doesn't matter then. You care more about behavior. She could be a slut but low n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:17 PM
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I guess I’m wondering how you actually find an exact number if not by asking directly. I don’t see how social media and her behavior would really tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:52 PM
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So if she’s low-n is there a possibility you will never find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:41 PM
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I don’t really care about having an equal marriage so I’m fine with this as long as he’s providing for us. Even now that we’re cohabitating (not married) I still do more of the cleaning/tedious stuff around the house, even though we’re egalitarian for the most part. Once we have kids though I want that to be my #1 priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:29 PM
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How do you find out without asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:17 PM
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This is exactly why I’m red. Except I’m not a biologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:23 PM
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I said it’s in my nature, not that I wouldn’t try to work to repress that part of my nature as much as I possibly can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:56 PM
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I don’t think you’d consider yourself a monkey brancher No, but all women have the capacity to become one in some way. If I was with a shitty man or otherwise someone I lost interest in, it would definitely be in my nature to do so. I also don’t want to be treated like I’m easily replaceable, and I want chivalry in a relationship. If I don’t get that I’m out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:35 PM
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What you’re describing is abuse. I would argue that running away from abuse should be a different category from abandonment altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:42 PM
1

Exactly. Only a dumb woman would intentionally have kids with someone she isn't married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:23 PM
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> Stay in your fucking category. You can overcome your own "category" by getting out of familial poverty and degeneracy. The idea that I grew up in poverty means that I have to marry someone who also came from poverty is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:06 PM
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Damn, so then what do the statistics say if my parents were never married? I must be screwed then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:59 PM
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If that’s true, that’s still the cowardly way out. At least have the spine to confront your wife if she’s treating you badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:40 PM
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Because they aren’t “the dude went for cigarettes and never came back.” That’s because it wasn’t an open-ended survey, they were choosing from a list of options. In both of those surveys one of the top reasons was infidelity. Either way though, it looks like there’s not enough data to prove or disprove any of it. But linking a couple articles that you claim to prove a point when they actually don’t is a bit disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:43 AM
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N = 52 Lol. Very representative survey. The main reasons for divorce were lack of commitment and infidelity. There’s a lot of nuance there. I don’t see how that disputes men leaving their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:30 AM
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What does it actually say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:48 PM
4

And what does the data say about reasons why women divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:38 PM
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Exactly this. Even besides divorce women are the ones setting up appointments, school board meetings, playdates, social outings, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:32 PM
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And yet plenty of women in these comments are describing this exact scenario happening to either themselves or someone else they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:31 PM
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What does assisted suicide if not for people with terminal illness even entail? Are you saying you should just be able to walk into a doctor’s office, tell them you want to end your life, and get it done no questions asked? Cause that’s fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:18 AM
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Society considers having to work hard for things oppression. It’s really sad. Hard work should be the bare minimum, not something you only do when you can’t get things handed to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:42 AM
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Nice way to compare being a professional athlete to sticking your dick in as many holes as possible. Definitely the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:36 AM
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You’d be surprised. A lot of girls who are low-n would do some pretty slutty things to avoid seeming like a prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:26 AM
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Thank you ❤️
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 09:55 PM
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As someone coming to terms with their faith and a more traditional way of living, I wish I had went the waiting-until-marriage route. It's just hard to grow up with strong beliefs like that when you were an accidental product of never-married parents, addiction and poverty. I wish someone was there to knock some sense into 18-year-old me.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 08:58 PM
1

Most girls don't know how or simply don't want to put in the effort to transform their entire face. For most, we only care to use a minimal amount to enhance our features or cover blemishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:03 PM
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I wonder if you're only noticing the girls who wear heavy makeup as opposed to natural, light makeup? I've had many guys say they can't tell that I'm wearing makeup if it's just mascara, concealer and blush.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:56 PM
1

How? Are you saying you can interact with a woman and think, "This girl has had 7 sexual partners"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:54 PM
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Redpill is also about male and female nature, how the sexes are different and how we can combat the darker sides of our nature. Redpill is different for men and women. Men use it as a sexual strategy, women use it in marriage, traditional values and also for weeding out men that spin plates. Same rules apply, just different tactics. I’ve never seen that problem on that subreddit, but I know of several regular female posters there, and men are allowed to and often post as well. Which post are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:25 AM
1

Exactly. A number has never even come up in my LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:18 AM
2

You’d be surprised how many mothers actually do allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:08 AM
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Oh boy. You sweet summer child. r/RedPillWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:01 AM
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It works for us women 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:50 AM
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It depends on his intentions. If he’s using it for self-improvement and a willingness to cultivate a more traditional relationship from women, then I’d be fine with it. I’d actually prefer it. If he’s using it as a means to get easy sex and starts using it on me by flirting with other women in front of me, treating me as if I’m replaceable, or using any other dark triad tactic, it’s a hard No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:29 PM
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Some female examples would be Suzanne Venker, Laura Doyle, Mrs Midwest, Emily Hayden to name a few of my faves. Focus on femininity, taking accountability, and talk about conservative and traditional values. I also think the Bible has a lot of good guidance for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:07 PM
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Speak for yourself 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:57 PM
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Love Suzanne Venker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:54 PM
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I know right, my baby fever has been sooooo bad recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:33 PM
1

Well, that’s a shitty reason to leave something good otherwise in my opinion. I feel like that’s probably a cop out to a bigger issue. Sexual compatibility can be improved and built upon in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:27 PM
2

Neither of us really knew our political views when we first got together, it was something we learned about each other over time. At times some issues that we disagreed on did bother me, but I didn't let it affect our relationship and over time I found myself starting to agree with him on a lot of issues more and more anyway. Honestly even if I was dating someone left-leaning though I probably would feel the same, as long as he wasn't a hard leftist or anything. And I don't think a man who ident…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:28 AM
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I probably should've phrased it better - I meant more so that sex is nice but it's not the end all be all of a relationship. If that's your goal, then you're going to end up very lonely if that's the only way you're connecting with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:59 AM
2

I'm pro-choice and my long-term partner is Republican. I'm a moderate though so we're far from opposed on a lot of topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:53 AM
1

Would you consider things like handcuffs and blindfolds toys? If so, for me and my BF it's a matter of spicing things up a little and doesn't have anything to do with the frequency we have sex. And masturbating - seriously? Hell, even I masturbate almost daily even when we have sex every 2-3 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:49 AM
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She'll also never be able to have the kids that she eventually wants and a loving family man that actually cares about them. Good sex gets old quick, women want to know that they are secure with someone who will still love them when they grow old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:34 AM
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And I think most pro-choicers would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:47 PM
4

I live in a liberal state and even I am surrounded by plenty of religious Republicans and even confederate flags in people’s yards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:42 PM
3

Exactly. The fact that some people think the government is above making laws like this is laughable. I can absolutely see some lawmakers trying to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:40 PM
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So you’re okay with abortion in the first 15 weeks then? Congrats, you’re pro-choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:31 PM
1

I agree, egalitarianism is fine in dating and even in early stages of marriage but for the most part, I would want a more trad marriage once I have kids. I think a lot of people assume that they can keep operating under a 50-50 dynamic after kids arrive and they quickly realize they can’t once their marriage goes downhill and resentment grows.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:45 PM
1

Faking it sounds extremely painful. Would you actually be okay with having Bible sessions and prayer time together daily and going to church, baptizing your children, potentially putting them in a religious school if you’re an atheist? That just seems outrageous to go through all the effort because you want a religious woman so badly. You should want to date someone religious because you share their values and beliefs, not because of this weird idealist obsession with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:58 PM
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thats why you give her portion of your salary into her acc when she stops working and has your kids as a safety net. I’d go a step further and say a joint account is the best way. I wouldn’t have a kids with a man without one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:46 PM
0

You are doing the equivalent of traditionalists saying women actually LOVE serving their husbands. They do, as long as their needs are being met. Quit the sexism. The problem is that society still holds men to gender roles while freeing women from them and women like you are gaslighting men saying that men somehow like being reduced to ATMs. Quit victim Blaming I didn't realize men wanting to provide for their wives are victims? If she's birthing his children and taking care of the household, ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:50 PM
1

Yeah, I think equal roles in dating in the beginning is the best way for everyone involved to protect themselves and make mutual interest known. After marriage and kids though, most couples fall into their natural gender roles anyway, otherwise resentment can occur. I don't really think it's possible to have an equal partnership when kids are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:34 PM
0

This won't happen because men feel emboldened by providing and will feel guilty if they aren't, while women resent being the main breadwinner. (in most cases)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:29 PM
1

This 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:26 PM
1

Bingo. I don't think true "equality" in marriage is even possible, at least not long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:24 PM
2

Women can just as easily be exploited, just in different ways obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:10 PM
1

Is it a red flag if they only follow people and accounts that help them become better in some way and don’t spend an extreme amount of time on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:56 PM
2

Parents showing off pictures of their kids everywhere is so gross because of shit like this. When I have kids I ain’t ever posting them anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:54 PM
3

Uhhh who’s gonna tell them emergency contraception doesn’t stop fertilization?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:45 PM
6

In both scenarios, it’s always the women’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:39 PM
1

Why are there so many fat millionaires and billionaires then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:29 PM
2

Guess what - people don’t want to do things that require effort. This applies to everything in life, not just weight. That’s why most people are living average lives making average money with average bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:28 PM
4

Which one? There's a lot of good reasons why couples would want one parent to stay at home if they can afford it, at least for the first couple years of the kids' lives. Certainly better for the kids than sticking them in daycare at 6 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:50 AM
12

I've heard of similar scenarios where the mom has a kid or two, leaves work, then goes back once the kid starts kindergarten, and even so those are mostly older generations. Most millennials with kids usually date for several years, contribute equally financially, buy a house together, then they get married and have kids while continuing to work full-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:42 AM
3

Well, I want to get married, and when I do, the goal would be to not get divorced in the first place and then I wouldn't have to worry about that. I'm a firm believer that 99% of issues in relationships can be worked out with enough effort from both people. The key is to marry someone emotionally mature enough to be willing to work through any issues should they arise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:29 AM
18

Then that woman is an idiot for sleeping with him before he's shown interest if a relationship is what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:19 PM
3

It's more common than you think. I was raised by two shitty parents (probably why I resorted to this sub - parents repressed my femininity and didn't give me much guidance to work with) and I'm just now getting to a point where I'm learning what my personal values/beliefs are and trying to become a better person. I don't want to be defined by my actions as an insecure teenager, but some things you just can't erase. Thank you for your words though.
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/22 08:53 PM
8

Or she just wasn't raised with a good value system from her family when it comes to sex, and that forces her to find those values herself. And sometimes that means making poor decisions along the way to finding that.
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/22 08:16 PM
9

Same here. I never had the goal of waiting until marriage, but looking back I wish I had some sort of value system instilled in me at a young age that allowed me to do so.
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/22 08:12 PM
7

What bullshit do they need to let go of exactly? I’ve tried so hard to orgasm with partners through PIV, oral, fingering, yet nothing was working. I was fully relaxed and aroused too. There’s only been one way I’ve ever been able to orgasm, and no, it doesn’t involve a vibrator or any toy - it simply depends on speed, movement, etc. I would love to be able to orgasm with my partner by him just ramming it in, trust me, it would make things so much easier for both of us. But that’s just the way th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:17 PM
1

Who pissed in your Cheerios? No one claimed it was something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:01 PM
4

I’ve noticed that in situations where one person is much more successful or attractive than their partner, the success rate of the relationship tends to be much higher if the couple met in high school or college, before people glow up and start earning money. That’s how you know that they probably dated their partner because they liked them as a person and not for their status or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:59 PM
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Probably not as much as you seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:53 AM
3

No, it doesn’t. The graph says over 50% of people of each race in their 30s have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:52 AM
1

Why are you commenting on a post from 50 days ago? Lol, but yes it did, I thought that was clear from my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:15 AM
1

Yeah, who else?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:07 AM
2

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:02 AM
0

Then you remain a virgin, the default state.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:28 AM
9

I’m a moderate so anyone on either side as long as they aren’t too extreme (communist, homophobic, racist, etc.) is fine with me. As long as they can handle disagreements with class and don’t think I’m an awful person for any of my beliefs. It matters more when raising children though, we’d have to talk more about how we would raise kids if we disagree on certain fundamental topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:27 AM
3

Those women are based and redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:09 AM
1

How can you choose something you’re born with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:50 PM
1

Escorts still have a choice, they aren’t being forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:49 PM
-1

You’re making a conscious choice to lose your virginity when someone offers or you give someone else an offer. Unless you’re raped, losing your virginity is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:49 PM
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Everyone is born a virgin, it’s the default state of being. Deciding to change that is the choice, not the virginity itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:35 PM
2

Do people actually go around shaming guys for that? I usually only see it the other way around, where a woman gets shamed for wanting to lose her virginity to a virgin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:55 AM
2

Yeah, same here. Only one guy has asked me on our first (and only) date, but that’s a huge red flag anyway. Even in my current 3-year relationship, number has never come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:47 AM
2

Not until your looks crater anyway, and then suddenly you find all these men, you previously rejected as untouchable, enticing. Good women who are even somewhat attractive in their youth don't take this long to find someone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:48 PM
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I would never contribute to paying off a house that didn't have my name on it unless we were married. On top of that you'd be doing all of the household duties while paying half the bills, which isn't sustainable, especially since you make so much less than him. Have you discussed marriage with him? I would assume that at the 4-year mark you already have a timeline planned, but if I were in this situation I would make sure my name was on that house if he won't propose any time soon.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/22 12:58 AM
5

Current hobbies: •Reading books •Going to gym •Running/walking/hiking •Yoga •Video games •Makeup/fashion Hobbies that I want to get into: •Writing books (used to write several, all got destroyed on my old laptop, rip) •MMA/kickboxing •Gardening/farming •Finding and cooking complex recipes •Learn traditional DIY projects like basketweaving, sewing, making my own bread, etc. •Volunteering of some sort - preferably something involving children or animals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:39 AM
3

Yeah, I refuse to believe there are modern men with internet access that have never watched porn in their lives. And in extreme cases like super religious conservative crowds you hear about those men being sexually frustrated and porn-addicted due to their strict upbringing. Reminds me of that Duggar kid who recently got arrested for child pornography (extreme example, but still...). I think what you said about parents being realistic about their kids having sex and whatnot is the best way to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:12 PM
5

As a woman, I have to disagree. Women can let their partners take the lead and trust his opinions and decision-making while still letting her voice and opinions be heard in a polite manner. A good husband would hear her out. I don't think what he's saying is contradictory at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:02 PM
3

If you both work full-time, would you still require her to do most chores? Or in this ideal world is she a housewife?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:36 PM
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Yeah, I agree with you. I think it’s a bit unrealistic to expect for your partner to never have some temptation. Does that mean they would 100% give in to it? Not necessarily, but I agree that it’s easy to ask for or proclaim undying loyalty until you find yourself in that situation you described 20 years down the line. And I’m fine with some porn but not to the point where it starts to become an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:31 PM
12

I have some questions if you don’t mind, and I’m in no way “flaming” you: looks her best at all times What does this entail? Do you expect her to always wear a dress around the house, have her hair and makeup done, no body hair and a fresh manicure? is fertile. Can have at least 3 children naturally This is something that has always confused me when men say they want a “fertile” woman because that’s usually not something tangible that you can see (besides the age factor). Most people who are inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:26 PM
1

Me personally as having parents that never married and my childhood suffered because of it, that only increased my desire to get married and stay married for the sake of my future kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:39 PM
2

I don’t think I’m equal to men and I think plenty of other women also accept that. There’s a reason why men and women don’t and shouldn’t compete in the same sports leagues, for example. And what makes you think it’s only women voting that way? I think the majority of people vote whichever way they believe they will benefit from the most. Conservatives want to pay less taxes so they will vote in people who campaign on that and liberals want universal health care so they will vote people who camp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:46 PM
2

I’ve noticed all the FDSers that visit this sub usually don’t stay long or they’ll only pop in once in a blue moon because usually they get too angry to stay or they get ripped to shreds. They definitely make up the most of the radical takes on this sub besides the angry misogynists. They’re like a different side of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:11 PM
2

I don’t know about that because I don’t care about feminism enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:09 PM
2

Well, what do you count as feminism? That women should have basic human rights, right to vote and right to abortion? Then I guess I’m a feminist. Or do you count it as believing that women should feel empowered for participating in sex work, having multiple hookups or that working a corporate job or being “strong and independent” is always a good thing? ‘Cause then I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:01 PM
1

I don’t use the same one every time, but I’ve noticed I start with “proud” a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:30 PM
1

Has that ever worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:29 PM
1

Brando.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:56 AM
2

A lot of them actually agree with her. But I personally rated 6 out of the 11 above average and none of them below a 4. I actually think it’s rare for a guy to be below a 4, anything below that is usually reserved for deformed or morbidly obese guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:13 AM
4

I would hope she wouldn’t actually consider dating any of them since she’s married to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:11 AM
5

Which is higher than 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 12:23 AM
1

Same. And in between housework you have the chance to work on hobbies and side hustles. Sounds like a dream. Instead of now where I work a 9 to 5 and have to worry about domestic duties, barely having time for anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:55 PM

Can I ask how? It just looks like she lost body fat giving her a leaner face.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:28 PM
1

7, 8, 7, 5, 4, 5, 4, 6, 8, 4, 6 is how I’d rate them in order.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:09 PM
9

OP’s wife gave 5 out of the 11 men above a 5 rating. That’s almost half of the men she found above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:07 PM
3

Most of the time it is permanent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:13 AM
6

Ok bud. Some people actually want marriage, children and the white picket fence lifestyle. And many of them are actually happy living that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:04 AM
5

It’s instant gratification versus long-term reward. For some the long-term reward is the better option. All the traditional people I know eventually got what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:01 AM
2

Traditionalism has worked well enough for me. To those who actually want that lifestyle they’re not sacrificing much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:54 AM
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TRP doesn’t want traditionalism at all. The men who actually do want traditionalism aren’t the ones trying to enjoy the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:49 AM

Every woman is dating a Chad by default. If she disagrees that means she’s not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:51 PM

This is why men in relationships shouldn’t have female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:46 PM

I don’t get it, are you saying that she is dating Chad because of his intelligence, kindness and charisma? Is that what a chad is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:44 PM
1

Taking the lead, making a lot of the big decisions, confidence, assertive, dominance, doesn’t listen to his bitch voice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:41 PM

How do you know that’s nature and not nurture? Women have been taught to depend on men for resources since the beginning of time. Edit: Aaaand crickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:28 PM

Yup, mass suicide is clearly the only way we can make these men happy. Let’s all make a pact to off ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:27 PM
1

I don’t quantify relationships like this. I just LTR people that I vibe with as long as there’s no red flags. It’s usually not until later into a relationship that you start to see the incompatibilities and dealbreakers that can break the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:59 PM
4

Just had an interesting conversation with my boyfriend and it made me curious on what PPD thinks. My boyfriend thinks men who are less masculine/don’t fit into the stereotypical male gender role are more likely to manipulate and abuse/rape women because they tend to be more sexually frustrated and that’s the only way they can get any sort of female attention. I tend to disagree and think that attractive/masculine men probably abuse and rape at equal rates but are just more likely to get away wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:55 PM
1

Nope. I don’t think it’s okay for either gender to be super close friends with anyone of the opposite sex, regardless of whether or not they were ever involved. Unless they are gay. The only one I would maybe be okay with is him getting lunch with a female friend, but only if they were never romantically involved and have been friends for years. If you’re planning on hanging out with the opposite gender outside of a group setting/double date scenario, I think you should always talk to your partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:45 PM
1

I don’t think most women would want to date a known draft dodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:54 PM
2

Weight is something you can lose with time. N-count is something that can only increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:50 PM
1

If they refuse to get drafted, they just go to jail. And I have no idea what the rest of your comment means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:45 PM
1

If there’s a draft it will impact all young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:20 PM
5

Ah yes, because Ukraine is definitely known for its feminist views.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:18 PM
5

Zelensky is also a chad and I’m not ashamed to say it. Now that that’s out of the bag, this is why we need young, healthy leaders. No more 70-something year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:16 PM
2

Serious question, what are squareheads supposed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:09 PM
2

It looks like her account is deleted too, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:35 PM
6

Dude…just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:09 PM
5

Yes, it’s more about the intimacy than the O.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:06 PM
2

I think we do live in a patriarchy in a lot of ways but unlike feminists, I don’t believe that women are oppressed or somehow suffer because of it (although there are certain cases of that).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:50 PM
3

I wish my dad would shut up about politics in public. He literally yells when he talks without realizing it and I wish he would just keep his bad opinions for when we’re at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:47 PM
3

I haven’t had one since I was 18. I think it’s just a matter of finding someone that they’re willing to LTR with. But a lot of women think that because they’re in their 20s they have plenty of time, and then they enter their 30s and wonder why all the good men are taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:11 PM
1

Casual relationships get very lonely after a while. There’s something appealing about having that one person to have my back through thick and thin and vice versa. “Through sickness and in health.” It’s definitely a lot more impactful than a friend or someone in my family who’s just there because they are obligated to be. A partner chose me for more than just my body and in my eyes that’s more special and real. The intimacy during sex is a lot different when it’s with someone you love. You can t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:02 PM
1

Huh? Why do you think I’m a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:31 PM
2

That would definitely make the process easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:08 AM
2

Honestly I didn’t think anything when people said this when I was still dating, but if I ever have to date again I would 100% pass on guys who said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:34 AM
2

You don’t get it, women with that much trauma don’t know what a good man looks like. They will flock to whatever community they can relate to, take it and roll with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:29 AM
3

That makes sense, but seems difficult to enforce. It might be helpful to make a sticky post about it, this is the first time I’m hearing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:25 AM
2

I think that’s why they joined that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:11 AM
6

The TRPer is the guy that the FDSer screws on the side while she looks for her HVM. They’d fuck each other but neither would commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:08 AM
3

Is there a new rule against blocking people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:05 AM
2

I am 5’4 so average height I guess but still considered short by some people. I don’t have a requirement except for maybe him being at least a little taller. My boyfriend is 5’8. My dad is 5’10 and I don’t have brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:41 AM
3

Definitely unpopular. There’s nothing hotter than a man who wants to improve himself. It’s not even about the physique, more so the ambition and self-discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:02 PM
1

Shy introverts unite!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:55 PM
3

I’ve decided that I’ll probably never go on hormonal birth control again. I want to look into a copper IUD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:54 PM
1

Ours didn’t even have the condom talk. Just abstinence. Lots of pregnancies either in high school or right after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:52 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:43 PM
4

I think you’re right, but my problem isn’t even that I’m not well-liked. I’m just too much of a shy introvert that it’s hard to stand out. I get along with everyone well enough though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:24 PM
3

Realizing today that I do NOT have the right personality for the corporate world at all. I’m good at what I do but that’s only half the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:56 PM
1

Every guy that I knew I liked early on we had sex right away. Going on 3 years with my LTR that I had sex with the second time we met.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:20 PM
2

Requirements: Has a penis. Is taller than me. Not obese. Preferences: Every preference I thought I had went out the window when I met my boyfriend, so I can’t really say I have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:37 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:12 PM
6

1) Yes, when it comes to dating. 2) I’m not sure how to answer that since I’ve already felt really lonely throughout my life as a female. I think a lot of that is due to my upbringing which likely wouldn’t have changed if I was a male. 3) Yes, unfortunately women have inherent value because of looks and sex, and being the “weaker sex” we are easier to manipulate and exploit. I would much rather be able to prove myself in other ways rather than always be looked at differently and exclusively for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:11 PM
5

You’ve seriously never met an attractive woman with an n-count in the single digits?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:02 PM
1

My boyfriend and I had sex right away and we were casual for several months. He’s also an amazing boyfriend. The fact that you think you can only have one or the other just means you’re not high-value enough to be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:21 AM
2

Not everyone is looking for a relationship when they hook up with someone, it sometimes just happens to work out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:15 AM
2

Yup, my boyfriend and I had sex the second time we met and were casual for a few months before we became official.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:05 AM
1

Don’t get me wrong, I get really happy when he comes home or when we haven’t seen each other in a while. But I don’t get the “butterfly” feeling - it’s more so a sense of safety and warmth when I’m with him. And just overall contentness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:19 PM
1

Did I? We met in college and neither of us were really looking for anything serious, it kind of just happened. We also had sex right away before we knew we wanted a relationship so the attraction was there. I’m also not gonna throw away something real with someone who’s treated me better than I ever could’ve imagined and has the same goals and values as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:09 PM
3

To me, marriage is a combining of two souls into one greater unit. It’s a commitment to dedicate yourself to that person until one of us dies. It’s a promise to make sacrifices and give everything you have to that one person no matter what. You’re supposed to improve that person’s life and encourage them to be their best self day after day. More practically speaking, it’s the best way to raise children in my opinion. Seeing two parents dedicated to each other gives them the sense of what a healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:44 PM
1

Yeah, I was talking about the rush of butterflies you get with someone you’re infatuated by. Not love. Did you even read my comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:27 PM
1

Some people are built for naturally being better at sports, some aren’t. Nurture can improve your ability to be good in a sport by practicing, just like how not practicing can affect that. But the person who’s built better will still have an advantage over the person who wasn’t built the same way if they practice at the same level. Just like how nature isn’t guaranteed to hold true, neither is nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:25 PM
0

Yes, and sometimes nurture overrides nature, sometimes it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:01 PM
1

How so? Male nature isn’t something that just goes away on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:38 PM
1

I know I love him and am attracted to him. He makes me feel things no one else has ever made me feel, and he’s an amazing person. Isn’t that all you need to feel for someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:37 PM
6

I was mainly referring to PPD. It’s confirmation bias at work: TRP-aware people specifically seek out examples of TRP holding true (or not true) and share it here to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:57 AM
14

Most people who don’t spend a lot of time on Reddit don’t even know what the red pill is. This place is definitely not representative of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:20 AM
3

Yeah no shit, there’s temptation for every person with a sex drive. That’s why I don’t think anyone should have close friends of the opposite sex if they’re partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:14 AM
5

I wouldn’t throw away a good thing and risk finding out. I don’t have guy friends for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:56 AM
6

Like I said, “sparks” are a fake illusion that don’t mean anything. It’s a very fleeting feeling that doesn’t at all indicate whether or not you have feelings for someone. Anytime I’ve felt it, I get bored after a short time and see that person for what they are: just a person with flaws. Instead with my boyfriend, I always felt safe, secure and appreciated with him during our entire LTR. Sparks don’t mean shit when it comes down to maintaining a relationship. Why would it go south?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:48 AM
7

The women in that sub are not necessarily trying to get a red pill man. Many of them are trying to improve their relationships with Billy Beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:42 AM
0

Yup, same reason why women become misandrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:37 AM
5

Does he know I never had a Disney-esque fantasy romance where I’m completely captivated and infatuated by him? Don’t worry, I think he knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:33 AM
7

I never had “sparks” with my current boyfriend. I knew that we had an emotional connection and that I liked his company, but this idea that you’re supposed to have butterflies with someone in order to date them is a myth. Anyone I thought I had sparks with was either due to sexual attraction or just infatuation, which clouds your rationality and gives you feelings that don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:46 AM
4

Most men are red-pilled by default without the label. It’s when they grow up and get tainted by feminism, their upbringing and society as a whole that suppresses those behaviors/emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:54 AM
18

Having “sparks” with someone literally just means being infatuated by them. It usually gets confused with love and chemistry. Once you get past that initial infatuation is the only real way to tell if you actually have feelings for them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:46 AM
4

There is no such thing as “the spark.” It’s all about being in the right place at the right time with someone that you have things in common with, treats you well, and you’re decently attracted to them. Expecting anything else is a Disney fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:44 AM
8

If you what you mean by “magic of the pill” is a way to feel like shit all the time while ruining your menstrual cycle and risk not being able to have kids in the future, then yes, it truly is magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:16 AM
5

No idea, I would certainly like to know myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:12 PM
2

That’s something new I’ll have to try, thanks for the tip 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:57 PM
1

How can you tell if someone blocked you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:54 PM
3

Same. I’ll give a BJ over being eaten out. Just finger me and I’m good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:46 PM
0

Yes. That’s how I met my boyfriend, who matched all of those standards except for employment, because we were in college at the time. They are in the minority though I’d say, at least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:29 PM
1

I can agree with that, but why specifically only single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:25 PM
1

Yeah no, as a libertarian I don’t agree with any forced military service.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:05 PM
2

Well, who in their right mind would walk up to someone and say “let’s fuck” unless they want to get slapped? I’m specifically talking about people who are honest about their intentions of a hookup and don’t lie about it, that doesn’t mean these people have to literally say that the first words that come out of their mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:20 PM
3

You are correct. I am still free to believe that everyone has the right to be left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:16 PM
3

I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but my belief is that everyone has the right to be left alone by other people, the government, and anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:15 PM
1

There’s no written rule that says “harassing someone is x and y” but I feel like that should be up to common sense and being able to read the room. If they can’t do that then they bear the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:10 PM
1

Umm okay then. I’ve personally never hooked up with someone without knowing it was just a hookup. But go off and pretend like you know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:08 PM
4

Being “offensive” is very subjective. I’m speaking more so just the right to not be harassed or bothered by people unless there is a reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:03 PM
5

What’s so debatable about the right to be left alone and treated with the very bottom barrel of kindness as long as you’re not doing anything wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:54 PM
23

This is correct - no one cares if a man wants to hookup as long as his intentions are clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:52 PM
15

Men and women are entitled to basic human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:44 PM
2

I’m not even bluepill but I find your argument not based on reality. Even the redpill says that women reach their prime at 22-24 which is within the range you’re speaking of. Many women 18-21 still look like children and haven’t reached full physical maturity yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:24 PM
1

I get horny a lot but I don’t always want to have sex if that makes sense. He’s also not overly high libido either. We don’t have sex too often, maybe once a week, so when he initiates I feel like he’s not asking for much even if I’m not always feeling it. Although we both initiate about equally, I would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 09:18 PM
0

Yes. I do. Unless I’m sick, tired or occupied on something that needs attention. If for some reason we can’t have PIV sex but I still want him to feel good, I’ll give him a BJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 09:00 PM
1

Oops, my bad. Don’t know the meme you’re referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:40 PM
6

I wouldn’t compare a rapper to a classical composer, but Kanye is one of the best producers in modern times. He definitely peaked a long time ago though and he’s a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:25 PM
1

I’ve always wondered something, would guys that make fun of women for not having an ass prefer women a bit overweight if it means they could have a big ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:21 PM
2

Yeah, she’s very clearly above average in looks. I think a lot of people just think she’s too “vanilla.” Which is fine, but saying she isn’t attractive is being blind to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:17 PM
1

It depends when in her career you’re seeing her. She used to be super skinny because she had an eating disorder, but she’s gained some healthy weight in the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:12 PM
1

I’ve noticed that guys just don’t delete their accounts even after getting into relationships. I definitely came across a couple guy’s profiles that I knew had girlfriends. Of course you don’t actually know if they were still using Tinder or if they just deleted the app but left the account open “just in case it doesn’t work out.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:09 PM
2

This was me when I met my boyfriend. After a few days of us talking I stopped going on Tinder, then a couple weeks later I deleted it entirely. It just seems so wrong to keep swiping and texting people when you like someone, even before we were exclusive or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:06 PM
3

I think it’s fine to use that word in the general sense (“bitches ain’t shit”, “fuck that bitch”) but if you’re directly calling a woman a bitch to her face, then I think it’s fair to draw a line there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:31 PM
3

Yes, as long as it’s exclusively for entertainment value. Misogyny is already prevalent in all types of media anyway. Also, the word “misogyny” has broadened its meaning drastically over time so I am weary about using the word liberally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:28 PM
8

No outrage here. Some of us just don’t care. Just because some lyrics are “misogynistic” doesn’t mean I feel the need to go out and protest an entire genre of music and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:49 PM
4

Just because a select few people speak up and have politicians respond in light to push a political agenda by taxing people who have nothing to do with those organizations doesn’t mean the majority of people actually care about those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:56 AM
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Yeah, I do and who cares? Do men care about Cardi B and Nicki Minaj rapping about how useless men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:52 AM
2

It’s almost as if no one cares enough to try to solve issues no matter what gender you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:19 AM
3

I feel like that’s just common decency and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:17 AM
3

I’m usually not looking down there when I’m talking to a guy, so I can’t say I’ve ever noticed this happen with anyone except my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:59 AM
2

Basically my entire worldview. I’ve talked about it here before under different throwaway accounts, but in a nutshell it helped me become more self-aware of my flaws, priorities, and hypergamy. I also began to see value in certain gender roles and it made me want marriage and a family. I realized it’s okay to want things from your partner that you can’t or wouldn’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:39 PM
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I think so. It’s more socially acceptable for a woman to be masculine than it is for a man to be feminine. I’ve also noticed it’s more so the women that encourage this, yet are more often the ones who insist that men take on the traditional male gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:26 AM
3

The issue is that most of society (both men and women) don’t give that kind of advice to young women who need it the most. Most women don’t realize they’ve been lied to their whole lives until it’s too late. It’s really only the ones that had a more stable, conservative upbringing or change their mindsets as young adults (the more rare of the two) that really learn this early.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:19 PM
8

It didn’t ruin my life, but let’s just say that I’m glad that I never went into depth about the redpill until I entered my LTR. I would be absolutely terrified if I had to date again - I would constantly be questioning if I made the right decisions and analyzing everything the guy did to see if he was using redpill techniques on me. I think that’s where the “mental health” aspect of it comes into play. The redpill helped me in a lot of other ways though, so I would say overall I’m happy I discov…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:09 PM
3

I don’t care for it only because our anniversary is a week before V Day so it feels pointless to celebrate both a week apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:26 AM
1

I’m so glad my boyfriend and I both enjoy football, it would drive me up a wall if I didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:31 PM
3

Both pasts matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:26 PM
1

I think there’s a way to be honest without being too harsh. “Well, what qualities are you looking for beyond looks?” is a good place to start when they bring it up. I’ll be honest with my girlfriends if I see they are making dumb mistakes, gently of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:19 PM
3

Eh, in my opinion the more you do something the more you want to continue doing it. You’re right that it helped me to learn what I don’t want, but FOMO isn’t a good reason to do something. That was the main reason I did what I did and it just wasn’t worth it. I’m sure it’s different for others though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:16 PM
1

I didn’t think so :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:13 PM
3

As a Bills fan, I hate that the Bengals beat the Chiefs but if they’re gonna win, I want them to go all the way. So I guess I’m rooting for the Bengals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:47 PM
5

Not everyone should “experience what’s out there” - I did what you suggest here and it sucked and I regret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:44 PM
1

Why restrain yourself? A lot of women could use a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:41 PM
1

What made you change political beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:34 PM
2

In that age range, virginity for either gender is more common than you probably think. I would think it’s normal and it wouldn’t turn me off at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:26 PM
-1

What are the signs those women give off that let you know they are alpha widowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:42 AM
4

At least she can say she didn’t get played, which I think what most women are trying to avoid anyway if they don’t want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:56 AM
1

God forbid that people want to make their relationships work with someone they love. Unless it’s something absolutely irreconcilable I think most things can be sorted out in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 01:37 PM
2

This. Being close friends with guys is a slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 01:22 PM
3

Sorry, I’m too much of a reasonable person to bait. You’ll get ‘em next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:22 PM
4

Since we’re married, my first instinct wouldn’t be to leave, I would try to fix whatever is causing the deadbedroom. I’d probably stick around for as long as it takes to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:22 PM
4

If the deadbedroom is caused by the woman, then yes it could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:59 PM
7

Imagine wanting husband benefits after breaking your end of the bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:36 PM
12

In trad relationships, the man is the primary decision-maker, leader of the household and has the benefit of coming home to a well-maintained home and children that are excited to see him without lifting a finger. I think lots of men would be happy with that arrangement, even if it means they are the sole breadwinner. But that also means he's in charge of the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:18 PM
4

What do you consider serial monogamy? A few failed relationships while trying to find the one? Several relationships not lasting more than a few months?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:59 PM
2

Okay, fair enough so then people should only have sex once they are ready to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:04 AM
1

So if you don’t think they are equally responsible for caring for a child after it’s been conceived, doesn’t that go against your claim of biology then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:50 AM
2

But biology says that they made the life together, so aren’t they both equally responsible for whatever outcome occurs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:40 AM
2

So if she gets an abortion without his knowledge, he goes to jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:32 AM
4

Neither are necessarily true, it’s not that by consenting to sex you are automatically consenting to having a child. But everytime you do have sex you at least understand that you’re taking a risk since no birth control is 100%. That goes for both parties. Once pregnancy actually occurs, biology trumps the man’s opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:03 AM
2

I realized how much redpill content and truths are actually in media without the writers even realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:53 AM
1

Ah, that makes sense. I thought your qualm with treatments was the lack of sex involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:30 PM
1

Damn, are you really still the god of slut country then if you’re monogamous? Maybe it’s about time to change your flair then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:25 PM
2

IVF is still the process of getting implanted by an already fertilized embryo though, so I’m not sure why you would see that as any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:23 PM
3

It’s called enjoying the decline for a reason I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:22 PM
0

I’m not too well-versed in mythology, but from my understanding, a god of “slut country” likely doesn’t care much for romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:10 PM
6

Flair does not check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:00 PM
1

I assume you also feel the same way about IVF, surrogacy and adoption then? Should infertile people just not have kids at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:59 PM
1

How is that scenario any better than a sperm donor?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:44 PM
2

Why? At least with a sperm donor the child is guaranteed to be wanted and loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:26 PM
1

Don’t blame you, I’m trying to move south in the next few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:39 PM
1

Do you think the sperm should be random then? Cause if my partner was infertile, I would want to choose traits that look like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:37 PM
4

Would you rather a single woman get pumped and dumped by Chad and get pregnant that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:35 PM
1

You can love someone unconditionally while accepting there are things you must do to stay in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:26 PM
3

Carousel riding does harm women more than it does for men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:26 PM
2

I want to try this out too. I don’t think I will ever go back on the pill again, took over a year for my period to go back to even just a little resemblance of a normal period and it’s still not at the point where it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:22 PM
11

I was just having this conversation the other day with Special Armadillo. It boggles my mind how some men don’t realize that women don’t want to settle for a man they aren’t attracted to, no matter how nice they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:20 PM
2

I realized that the only way I can bring myself to orgasm is by rubbing my clit very aggressively and quickly and it’s almost off-putting to my partner if I try it. Plus it’s really hard to do that if we’re in missionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:58 PM
4

That article just shows I’m right - most women can’t orgasm from PIV alone without other stimulation. I’ve never been able to for the four years I’ve been sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:52 PM
2

It’s much harder for women than it is for men. We can’t orgasm from PIV - we need other stimulation which can be difficult to achieve during sex everytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:47 PM
2

I used to think that women were supposed to orgasm from PIV due to a lack of sex education. I didn’t even really know what my clitoris was for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:46 PM
3

Because for many women, myself included, we just get used to not ever orgasming when we have sex. So when we actually do it’s like discovering something amazing for the first time that you didn’t realize was possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:24 PM
1

That’s too much, I think maybe one earring on the lobe is good, or very small gauges.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:26 AM
3

Because we live in a culture that thrives on instant gratification. That’s why DoorDash, Instacart, and Amazon Prime are so successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:22 AM
4

Doesn’t this just prove that women are securing men at high rates? Most women 30s+ are not single until they reach senior status, which makes sense due to women having higher life expectancy than their older husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:49 PM
5

Get me an oil man 💅🏼 the memes write themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:32 PM
8

“he’s asking for it”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:58 AM
1

I’m just thinking about the possibility of a guy only dating me because he can’t fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:57 AM
2

I’m not sure. It would depend. If you’re asking because of my flair, that’s just a tongue-in-cheek way of saying I like to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:48 AM
1

Damn, that’s bleak 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:40 AM
1

Okay but you’re still deciding that having a partner is more bearable than being single by having a girlfriend. Why wouldn’t you just stay single if that weren’t the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:35 AM
1

Is it really black pill though if you’re willing to admit that the pros outweigh the costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:20 AM
3

Man, those women are expressing all of my own fears, except I’m only in my early 20s. This is refreshing to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:59 AM
4

How are you black pill and also have a girlfriend? Don’t those things sort of contradict?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:05 AM
1

Gotta love the patriarchy!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:37 PM
3

If you’re not attracted to your partner, you’re more likely to cheat and/or have a dead bedroom. Or you will resent your partner and instead think about the life you could’ve had if you had waited longer, which will cause you to take it out on your partner. Would you settle for a woman you’re not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:34 PM
3

Staying with someone you’re not attracted to is, the attraction itself isn’t. The former is likely to cause problems later on though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:51 PM
3

If women can reason their way out of this instinct why is it instinctual attraction can’t be reasoned with? She can settle for the nice family man but that doesn’t mean she will always be attracted to him. Happens all the time. Some are just willing to live through it and make the best of it, others aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:15 PM
1

That’s not contradictory at all though, for the SAHM parenting is the hard part, and for the breadwinning father their work is the hard part. Both have their jobs. Not sure why you think it has to be a contest? That’s what people in relationships do, they delegate tasks to their strengths so that they’re a more efficient team and that goes for parenting also. I’ve agreed with you on everything to this point, it almost seems like you’re trying to argue a point that I didn’t even make.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:42 AM
0

There’s more moderates than we think, they’re just the quiet ones because if they dare say their opinions they’ll be yelled at to “pIcK a SiDe!”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:06 PM
0

Antiwork is literally the dumbest sub I have come across on this site, and that’s saying a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:55 PM
3

Exactly, my BF is also fairly conservative but he’s not by any means a tradcon who thinks women should stay at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:53 PM
3

Some girls will look for attention literally anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:05 PM
1

Lol you think leftist Reddit would let you get away with saying something factual? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:40 PM
3

Sounds like a cry for help tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:38 PM
2

There’s a “sigma male” now?! Lord, I can’t keep up 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:36 PM
1

How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:26 PM
3

Yes, even if you’re not interacting with your mother she’s still responsible for you. If you come down with a fever or the flu she’d be the one to have to leave work and take you home, or find someone else to do it. She still has to cook all your meals when you come home and feed you when you cry in the middle of the night. Of course it’s easier as you get older, but for a little kid who’s completely dependent on their parents, of course it’s demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:42 AM
2

My comment wasn’t being critical of men’s role in parenthood, it was more so to explain why women claim motherhood is a hard job in comparison to fathers in a two-parent household. Of course if you’re the breadwinner you have a valid reason not to take on so much. I actually prefer more traditional gender roles and I don’t think women wanting to stay at home if they’re able to is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:31 PM
0

I agree with everything you said. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:20 PM
2

I think men are more likely to hold in their emotions in relationships, yes. It can be a challenge just to get men to open up to us about anything, even something as simple as what they want for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:18 PM
0

Some do, most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:14 PM
2

I’m a die-hard Bills fan so that should answer your question. Edit: But if the Bills lose today, I’m rooting for the Bengals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:09 PM
1

I don’t think women who have one-night stands and women who withhold sex are the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:05 PM
6

When women say that I don’t think they mean in terms of labor or back-breaking work. But regardless of anything else you’re doing parenting is a job you’re always on the clock for and never get a break from. Women are also more likely to stay home and be more detail-oriented when it comes to family, so this is where the “mental load of motherhood” comes into play that lots of women complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:03 PM
0

I used to work with a guy who I thought was ugly on first sight. After I got to know his personality I quickly became more and more attracted to him. He was sociable, charismatic, funny, and able to have interesting conversations beyond surface level. We also had a lot of similar interests and I feel that our personalities blended well. I ended up having sexual dreams about him and looked forward to seeing him at work. We only worked together for a couple of months and nothing ever happened sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:55 PM
5

Exactly, my BF’s friends call my guy a simp all the time because he…has a girlfriend. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:12 PM
1

You want your husband to move to your place and pick up your work Well, actually I was thinking we would buy a place together somewhere we both agreed on and start the business together. This is purely hypothetical right now. And the work preferably wouldn’t be full time. what do you think which percentage of career woman would be the best for the 3 high quality children and a lifelong monogamous relationship? I have no idea of any percentage, I don’t even think there is a real way to calculate …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:45 AM
2

These are two very opposite and radical binaries, and there are plenty of women who don’t fit either of these. For example, I would consider myself to be in the middle of your two examples, who wants to do much of the housework and childcare but also wants to be self-sustainable with my own farm or ranch and utilize that as a business with my husband. I wouldn’t know which of your two examples I would fall closer to. But if I had to choose between your examples, assuming someone to birth your ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:36 PM
2

It’s not the only parameter but it certainly is a huge one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:19 AM
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I thought I had a “type” until I met my boyfriend, who is basically the opposite of what I thought my type was. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:35 PM
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Why would she enter a relationship with men that didn’t meet her height standards in the first place? If anything your scenario proves that Chad would still commit to a “used goods” woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:19 PM
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wanted a tradwife but was annoyed that the tradwife types expected him to be the breadwinner The literal definition of a tradwife is having your husband do all the providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:31 PM
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So are you saying that women can easily get Chad to marry them if they don’t have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:23 PM
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Isn’t the opposite normally true? Women fuck Chads then settle for a shorter, uglier man because Chad won’t commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:33 PM
4

The angry hamstering keeps me here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:20 PM
9

This is the sad truth. It’s literally the same threads every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:45 PM
0

Isn’t this just every healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:34 PM
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Why is still even a topic of discussion on this sub? It’s not a secret that men struggle more with dating than women do. Who is debating this exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:09 PM
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Yes, 12% would be the bare minimum, then you have to vet for attraction and compatibility. That test is highly inaccurate though, I took it multiple times with the same criteria and it gave me a different percentage each time lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:16 AM
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It’s obviously bullshit, but the men on here that always link to that site trying to prove a point are only shooting themselves in the foot because all it does it show that most men are not marriage-material.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:36 PM
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The 12% I got was men who are 22-27, not obese or married, any race, at least 5’7 and make at least $40k. If we’re judging by men who are marriageable, those are very reasonable standards. 20% is actually generous, considering I’d be widening my standards a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:24 PM
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I mean, I think I have a lot to offer but I don’t actually know how that would play out in the dating world. I’m in a 3-year relationship and he seems to like what I have to offer so I have that at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:23 PM
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You know men are fucked when wanting 12% of men is still having “down to earth” standards, according to that igotstandards website. So why is 80/20 bad again if that’s all of our options?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:10 PM
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That’s because the high value women get taken in their 20s by other high value men, also usually in their 20s. Usually the ones still single by 26-29 have baggage like you mentioned. A man in his mid-30s+ has to have a LOT to offer to lock down a high value woman in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 05:19 PM
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For a lot of men, 30+ women are the only ones they’ll be able to get if they wait until mid-30s to start looking for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:56 PM
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Most 30 year olds regardless of gender should not be partying like college kids, I think that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:53 PM
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And then when a woman who actually isn’t willing to give it out for free and is actually worth wifing up, she gets discarded by the same type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:51 PM
0

I first noticed when I was 13 or 14 when I started to get catcalled and honked at when walking down the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:23 PM
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If I had to guess I would say because women are under more pressure to become prettier, fashionable and trendy and buy the latest brands, beauty products, etc. Their worth is very dependent on their looks while for men, the pressure lies more in being financially savvy and successful; that includes investing their money and being a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:17 AM
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And if more men had the options women do, a LOT more men would cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:10 AM
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Both men and women suck. But the ugly truth is that there's usually a reason people cheat and if your partner cheats on you, there is a good chance there is something within yourself that they think you were lacking. Obviously some people are just shitty and cheat on amazing partners for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:06 AM
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I’m 22F, somewhere between purple and red in terms of pill beliefs. My parents were never married and stayed single to this day. Neither made very good decisions throughout their life and weren’t very good parents. My social circle is a mix of both good and bad backgrounds. Some are UMC with married parents, some come from divorce and abuse. My boyfriend is the exact opposite of me: his parents are UMC with happily married parents, and most of his other relatives are also very well off and still…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:13 PM
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Yes, indeed. People don't like to hear this but his charisma, humor and personality is what drew me to him when I otherwise wouldn't have given him a chance had I not gotten to know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:26 AM
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This has happened to me before, and I bonded with this person so well that oddly enough I became attracted to him when I thought he was ugly and having sexual fantasies about him. It was fleeting though, circumstances changed and we don't talk anymore. I now wonder what I was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:06 AM
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If I was a virgin woman and had some guy holding out for me, I would hope his only relief until we actually did the deed would be porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:03 AM
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What about all the overwhelming amount of men who've been doing it for hundreds of years then? That was before women were in the workforce and didn't have their own rights and definitely before they became brainwashed by feminism. I don't doubt that Men wished women were more cooperative, but the more women earn the more the question "What do I even need a man for?" Comes up. Bingo. Which means you know that the one that stood by you stuck around because they love you, not because they need you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:53 AM
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No, I agree with you. And I apologize, that’s a habit I’m trying hard to break haha. But I disagree with you that you can’t love a man who is broke - yes, women leave men for financial reasons all the time. I don’t think that has anything to do with love and more so the fact that women want a more financially stable long term partner. They could’ve seen potential in him, gave him a chance, he didn’t want to work toward his goals, and they moved on. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just that is ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:31 AM
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The issue is I don’t think many men agree with you. Most would not want to pay all the bills and work hard while she sits on her ass all day. Maybe it’s different with a SAHM, but in this situation I’m talking about people who don’t work out of laziness/lack of direction. But even so most men still expect his wife to work full-time even after they have kids. Not their faults, it’s just the way society evolved and many women feel that they have to do that, even if they actually don’t want to or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:15 AM
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If you treat the opposite gender negatively just because of their gender and your preconceived notions about them = misogyny/misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:32 AM
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I know what you said. You didn’t answer my question, nor does that have anything to do with refusing to work out of laziness or not loving your partner because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:30 AM
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So then why even say something as outrageous as “women are incapable of loving broke men”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:28 AM
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This doesn't address anything in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:04 AM
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You claimed women can’t love men that can’t provide for them. I still loved him and stayed with him despite him being broke during the first couple years of our relationship. I wouldn’t stay with anyone jobless for a long period of time out of an unwillingness to get one - would you stay with a woman that refused to get a job and support herself? It has nothing to do with how much they can provide me or suddenly not being able to love them the second a hardship occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 12:27 AM
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Exactly, every man is a “scrote” to them (wtf even is that word?). I saw a post on there of a man making a nice post about his girlfriend giving him food while he was playing video games, and FDS ripped this girl to shreds as a pickmeisha. What they call being a pickme is actually just being a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:16 PM
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Man, I should’ve dumped my boyfriend when he was unemployed and broke when I wasn’t since I guess I didn’t love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:50 PM
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If I personally thought he was uglier than me - I wouldn’t, only because if I viewed someone as “below me” then that would obviously cause problems in the relationship. If other people think he’s uglier than me - That’s their problem then. If I’m dating him then I’m attracted to him and I wouldn’t care about other people’s opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:37 PM
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I like it since I make the same jokes about myself. My boyfriend and I always make jokes like this anyway, although we don’t do it too often to where it could become a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:34 PM
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This is the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:53 PM
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Yeah, naturally couples have less sex over time and it has nothing to do with the woman using it to manipulate her man. Hell, I’ve been with my guy for 3 years and although we have less sex now he’s the one who wants it less lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:20 PM
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She sounds like a normal human being to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:14 PM
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I'd want to be self-sustainable in the sense of having farming, cooking from scratch, and DIY skills where I have my own ranch or farm with animals and where I source plenty of my own food. Like you, I love the idea of staying home and doing most of the housework while taking care of kids, but I'd also want to have some sort of at-home business or remote work at least part-time, so preferably I would want to split some of the housework and cooking with my husband.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/21 09:41 PM
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I don't even talk about my sex life with my girlfriends, I can't imagine telling a man I'm interested in about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:30 PM
1

Well, of course it’s fake, every celebrity photo is to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:26 PM
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Madonna looks absolutely gorgeous in that picture, I wouldn’t ever take a picture like that but I don’t see what she’s trying to argue here. Also, publicly calling another woman trashy is anything but classy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:07 PM
1

Someone asked me what mine was so I took the test to find out out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:13 PM
1

Some people consider that to be a science? Wow, that's a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:14 PM
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Honest question, do you think it's wrong to try to get laid on the first date? No, I don't think it's wrong. But if you're a woman who's young and naive you don't always realize that this is a man's intention. So that's why it's good to know some of the signs and red flags if you're not looking for casual sex. Do you think it's wrong to get "plates"? Plates are just another way of dating multiple women simultaneously and choosing the best one to be monogamous with. I disagree that "spinning plat…
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/21 09:13 PM
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I still don't know which pseudoscientific BS you're talking about. Also, downvoting isn't allowed in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:44 PM
1

Hmm, there's not anything crazy that I necessarily need. I don't care about receiving oral sex so I could live without that. I guess something I deem necessary would be a little variety? So someone willing to try out different positions and someone at least willing to touch my clit. I guess him being dominant would be another one. So yeah, if he wasn't willing to do those things I guess we would be sexually incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:42 PM
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Extroversion - 6 Emotional stability - 43 Agreeableness - 80 Conscientiousness - 92 Intellect/imagination - 80 It seems like the website uses some different terminology, this is what the chart tells me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:26 PM
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Thanks, just took them and they were really interesting! Highest Big 5 are conscientiousness, agreeableness and intellect/imagination. For the moral test, I don’t have one strongest moral, but rank closest to ‘conservative.’
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:21 PM
0

Which one would you recommend?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:56 PM
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Not sure why I would even know what my partner was doing before he met me unless there was a very specific reason to bring it up. Even then, if he did something with someone else that he’s no longer comfortable doing, why would that bother me? Unless it’s something absolutely essential that I would need to enjoy sex at all, his comfort trumps my preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:53 PM
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Haha, I mean - just putting in the effort to pick up a book for even just 10 minutes a day isn’t that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:48 PM
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The women who say those things and women who want to be SAHMs are not the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:44 PM
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You replied to my comment claiming to know something about me that I apparently don’t. That’s usually not something people say when they’ve never spoken to someone before.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:28 PM
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Well, as for TRP posts I’ve read, some examples would be how to get laid on the first date, how to answer to questions about a relationship, how to “plate” women, that sort of thing. It’s a good way to vet out the men who just want sex and how to see through the strategies they use and things they think you want to hear to get you to do what they want. It’s just good to be aware of little things like that.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/21 01:23 PM
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No, I’m not, smarty pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:38 PM
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I don’t know anyone else with the same one. Took the test and that’s what came up, don’t know what to tell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:56 AM
0

Sorry, have we spoken before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:54 AM
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I sort of disagree, reading TRP is a great way for women to learn some of the tricks and games RP men play and how to counter/avoid that.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/21 03:51 AM
0

INFJ :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:09 AM
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It’s much harder to get out of a marriage with an increased risk than it is to breakup with someone you’re just dating. I’m willing to bet the breakup rate for couples with children is much higher than the divorced rate for married couples with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:03 AM
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No one should get married for sexual novelty. No wonder marriage is so repulsive to you. If a man plans to have children without marriage, unless he’s adopting or using a surrogate he can’t expect to have a very high quality baby mama. Especially because either of them can leave at any time since there’s no legal commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:28 AM
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Intelligence and someone who likes to read and talk about abstract topics as much as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:17 AM
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Of course they didn’t think that. That’s why the divorce rate is only ~40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:15 AM
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Not of all of us oppose doing the majority of those things around the house. I would actually prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:10 AM
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Your assumption is that the commitment is non-lifetime, so of course it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:08 AM
1

Which part is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:39 PM
1

In my experience that’s not the case, but I understand you’ve dated women who are an open book I suppose. Personally that’s not something I would ramble about on the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:22 PM
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What is your vetting process for that then? I don’t think most women would tell you upfront if they’re from a broken home, that’s something you learn over a long period of time. Hell, even my boyfriend never learned about some stuff from my childhood a year into our relationship and there are things he still doesn’t know. Not that I’m hiding things from him, it just never came up in conversation and I don’t want him to be my therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:50 PM
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What if it was the opposite and she had a bad relationship with her mother but not her father?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:33 AM
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In my opinion, cohabitation is a good way to gauge how the other person interacts / behaves in their own space. You get a good idea of which roles the other person might take on before marriage. It does make it much harder to leave the relationship though, since you'd need to find a new place to live. So I think people who do this are already committed enough to where they don't think they'd leave anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:59 AM
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I'm not looking for those men anyway. I'm 22 and in a happy relationship. Even if I were single I would only date marriage-minded men under 27 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:26 PM
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Typically "single" means they were never married. But let's say he's divorced. I would need to know what the reason was for divorce before I even consider a relationship with him. Also, if he has kids that's automatically a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:09 PM
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In either scenario, I think men who are still single after a certain point are typically ones who never prioritized relationships (which is a red flag itself), they have hang-ups about marriage/having a family, or they have some major flaw that caused them to struggle in dating or relationships. Usually the high-value men are all taken by 30. Using your hypothetical, if I had to choose from one or the other, I would probably pick the one who stayed intentionally single, because it showed they we…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:02 PM
1

A man still single at 35+ is a major red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:02 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:00 PM
1

I would actually mentally rank that situation as a good thing to be perfectly honest. I would level you up in my head for that story. Which part and why? So I think there’s something in here that isn’t being communicated properly. Relationships with parents are complex. Simply saying “good relationship with father/mother” doesn’t really cut it. Cuz that’s not what it is. Exactly. Humans have incredibly nuanced perspectives and experiences. If you cut everyone with divorced parents from your pool…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:43 PM
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Yeah, the key for sure is you need to learn how to deal with it. I luckily came out relatively unscathed from my upbringing, but getting over childhood trauma doesn’t just happen overnight. Some people aren’t mentally strong enough to get over it without therapy or developing some sort of mental illness, but that’s another thing that should be considered when vetting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:54 PM
1

If that woman is so one-dimensional that by having a bad father makes her hate all men, she has some issues and needs extensive therapy. I guess you could say the same thing for mothers then, can’t you? If a boy or girl grows up with a bad mother, (and since a mother is the first woman a child ever loves) it only makes sense that they grow up thinking all women are trash? In my case, both my parents were shitty people. I certainly didn’t start thinking “both women and men are trash” because of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:49 PM
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As for traits 1 through 3: Yeah, they’re nice traits to have, but if you start eliminating everyone who’s parents are divorced or have a bad mother or bad father then your dating pool becomes significantly small. You can learn from your parents’ mistakes and learn what not to do. People who grow up with good, healthy families can sometimes become too sheltered and don’t know how to stop themselves from spiraling or identifying real red flags that someone from a bad family may have grown up seein…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:24 AM
1

Care to explain why or did you just want to make that assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:50 PM

She has a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:18 AM

Which movie is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:17 AM
1

Okay. Most women who go to college are pursuing some sort of career as opposed to a job. But yes, most people regardless of gender with just a HS diploma have low-paying jobs rather than careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:53 PM
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The real divorce rate is between 40 and 50 percent, but that’s if you don’t account for any factors. For people who marry after 25, it’s around 25%. The risk also increases significantly after getting married more than once. College-educated women are also ~9% less likely to get divorced. I got these all from this link, but you can find these stats with any basic google search. https://legaljobs.io/blog/divorce-rate-in-america/ Just try your best and hope you genuinely love each other and are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:08 PM
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Sure, some people do get married at 20, that doesn’t mean it’s a smart decision. The divorce rate for people who marry before 25 is ~60%. The risk of divorce is lowest among those who are educated and above that age. A beta buxx is just someone who was picked by a woman for the sole purpose of his provider status and doesn’t find him as attractive as the “alpha” men. It has nothing to do with how many men she’s been with beforehand. Even if a woman is only planning on working a minimum wage job …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:25 PM
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Such as? No one chooses to keep a job like that their whole life. They’re life sucking as hell - that’s why they’re called “revolving door” jobs. People only go to them when they need extra money or have no other options. Out of the women I worked with as a cashier, I was the only one in college or trying to improve my life in some way. The rest were single moms, had excessive tattoos, smokers, or messed up their lives in some way that that’s the only job they could get. Most of them were not ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:37 PM
3

A cashier. Lol. Are most cashiers you see in real life feminine? I used to be a cashier in college and most of my female coworkers I had were definitely not feminine. Most of the time if someone keeps a job like that long-term they have baggage ime. So she’ll be out of a service as a money maker and we’ll still have to pay off her debts. If she went to college she should be able to pay off her debts herself. Preferably before she ever has children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:02 PM
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Most women have some sort of career, that’s gonna be hard to avoid. The idea is to find a woman with a career as opposed to a career woman. Plus it takes time to build a family. She won’t be pregnant and barefoot on day one of the relationship, women need some sort of financial planning in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:27 AM
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Likewise!
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/21 02:45 AM
2

I do think there is a difference between a woman who makes her own money and knows how to look after herself versus a career woman who is so absorbed in that that she doesn't have time for other things. The former can still be "independent" in her own way while still prioritizing finding love and starting a family. I don't necessarily think those two things have to be mutually exclusive.
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/21 02:42 AM
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They can't do it all. That certainly doesn't stop them from trying though. It's because we were practically born being told that we can do it all, and that we should. I don't blame men or women for believing this -- it's just what we we've been told by everyone in society. That's why the whole "mental load of motherhood" thing has only just started in modern times. Women are now in the workforce, being a SAHM is frowned upon, and women are still expected to do most of the childcare and homemakin…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/21 01:21 AM
0

She probably just fell for the feminist lie that men are mesmerized by women who are overly confident and capable breadwinners and that it's okay to make more than the man and pay for everything. Can't say I blame her, that idea has been engrained in us since birth. But ironically enough these are exactly the type of women who stay single well into their 30s and 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:03 PM
5

She wasn't FDS, those women would never pay on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 08:58 PM
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Because at least traditional men believe in supporting and providing for their family no matter what, even if it means having to do some of the “woman’s” job. They understand that cooking, cleaning and childcare is just as big of a job as breadwinning is. Many modern men seem to think that a “strong independent woman” can do it all while he’s allowed to do little in comparison. And while they definitely try, it doesn’t go over well.
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/21 03:07 AM
1

That shy awkward average girl can now freely and without shame have sex with hotter guys that would never date her. And she knows those guys won’t wait for her to put out. Except the vast majority of women aren’t trying to hook up with guys for the sole purpose of having sex — casual sex is rarely done for women out of horniness. I actually think the majority of women engage in it for FOMO (all the other women are doing it) and validation from peers (don’t wanna be labeled as a “prude”). So I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:42 PM
1

It shows self discipline. It shows she’s not dependent on male attention. It allows me to give her full freedom to do whatever she wants at all times without needing to check in with me. I don’t have to wonder if we get into a disagreement, is she going to be unstable and need to fuck the first hot guy she sees in a club? Or are we going to be able to address it like mature rational adults because sex is a big deal to her. These aren't entirely dependent on whether or not a woman is promiscuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:01 AM
1

It's a side effect of it, maybe not a direct cause. The main difference here is trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 03:31 AM
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Yeah, not saying he shouldn't have talked to her about it first. But also considering the fact that he was already paying 70% of her expenses, I don't understand why she would get so mad at him for doing something else that would only end up helping her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 03:14 AM
1

I’d never tell a girl I care about that. And she won’t know it. But I do and it has been the main reason I’ve turned down relationships with girls before. Serious question, if you like everything else about a girl except for the fact that she's been with a few too many guys in the past, why does that stop you from pursuing a relationship with her? Is it a mental thing, the fact that you don't like the thought of her with other men before you? Do you see her differently? Also you’re missing somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 03:09 AM
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This is the price women pay for "equality." This woman wanted to be a strong, independent woman so she refused and blew up at her boyfriend for taking out a loan to help her pay off her credit card debt wayyy faster. She then kicked him out of their apartment even though he was paying the majority of the bills. This is how toxic feminism has become. I could understand if she had a hard time accepting it and politely said no, but downright becoming insulted by your partner doing something because…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:58 AM
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From there, every relationship I have usually starts off with casual intentions. With this strategy you're bound to only get promiscuous women. Non-promiscuous women usually don't willingly have sex with someone knowing it's strictly casual, unless she's just stupid. You clearly only want sex and that's fine, have all the sex and pump and dump all the girls you want, but what I don't understand is men that say they don't want to date someone promiscuous, but simultaneously want sex within a shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:35 AM
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If you have no moral code and choose to live as a slave to your own hedonistic desires, of course it doesn't make sense to live by that strategy. Can I ask how you determine a woman is "promiscuous" in the first place? If she sleeps with you on the first date? How about the third? Where do you draw the line? Maybe she's usually "not that kind of girl" but because she felt chemistry with you she felt like it was right timing. All I'm saying is, you'll never know what a girl's sexual past is unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:28 AM
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Because you’re only enabling them. Promiscuous women can’t be promiscuous if there aren’t any men to be promiscuous with. You say casual sex is bad for society, and if you actually believed that you would practice what you preach. Reject the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:53 PM
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all this gets fixed by women stopped being promiscuous. Then stop having sex with promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:40 PM
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Why do women find themselves incapable of gaming? I like gaming. My boyfriend gave me his old Xbox when we moved in together since he bought the new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:03 AM
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New rule for buying clothing: only buy secondhand items or if there's a really good sale. Gone are the days where I fall for the trap of corporations being able to sell $50 t-shirts because they're "vintage" when they were just made months before in China and there's actual vintage items for much better quality at Goodwill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:58 AM
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As a body hair-less woman here with a preference for hairier men, I can confirm this is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:49 AM
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I wouldn’t. He chose you as his fiancée for a reason. I feel like if my guy constantly pointed out women he found attractive I would just compare myself to them all the time. It’s not wrong to be attracted to other people but do you really want to know what he’s thinking about these other beautiful women?
/r/RedPillWomen21/11/21 09:11 PM
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Not sure why you’re commenting on a post from 16 days ago, but in the three years that I’ve known him he’s done nothing but prove to me that he is the kindest, most faithful and loyal man I’ve ever met. I’m not sure why you’re pretending to know him better than I do, but unlike you I don’t think all men don’t have a sense of self-control or morals. It’s really demeaning to think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:41 PM
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Well, considering that 90% of men who commit suicide are mentally ill, these men obviously aren’t getting the proper treatment they need. I also never said anything about “destigmatizing mental health” or “raising awareness.” Those do little to nothing. Instead, why don’t we compliment men more often and show them we care. Not telling them to “man up” when they try to express their emotions or seek treatment. Support them in the event of a divorce or death of a spouse. Not telling them that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:30 PM
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What if she had a very short-lived "hoe phase" in her early 20s but was an angel virgin as a teenager and still managed to marry young? If she's doing multiple things when she's young how do you know which version is her "true self"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:05 AM
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Women and sexually active men use porn too, not sure why you're making it out to be something only starved men watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:02 AM
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So you don't want women to be sluts and whores but you want them to have sex with all men? Is this your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:01 AM
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Not everyone needs help to get through them. Yes, everyone does need help actually. Either directly or indirectly. Being nice to a stranger on the street can help them more than you know. We are social creatures and we need other people in our lives to help us get though things. I briefly saw a therapist to try to figure out my anxiety around having children because my boyfriend wanted them and I thought I didn’t. It was a truly eye opening experience. Even things that you consider “minor” like …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:25 AM
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Everyone has issues to some capacity. I’m not an FDS princess who thinks men should be perfect. I’m not saying I would date someone who is court ordered to go to therapy for anger management, but not every person who goes to therapy is going through trauma or has some horrible mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:04 AM
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This is exactly why the suicide rate for men is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:51 PM
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I’d rather him dump his issues onto a trained professional instead of me. Being someone’s personal therapist is mentally taxing. If he keeps all his emotions and trauma bottled up then it will only combust later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:43 PM
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Especially because women who want to date usually don’t have to do so. This is true, but it doesn’t always mean they can attract quality men. But I think the women who screech “why can’t a get a good man” most of the time blames men and doesn’t bother to look within herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:14 PM
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Tbh as a woman I would love if I was in a bookstore and someone who shared my interest came up to me. Obviously don’t start with a cheesy one-liner, but if they wanted to talk about the book in my hand that would be much more natural and interesting. Truth be told I feel like most young people don’t read and so bookstores are one of the only places for two bookworms to meet, if that’s what you’re into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:09 PM
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Or the flipside of that is when men think the only reason women improve is to impress men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:54 PM
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So is a completely flat stomach but with no muscle definition whatsoever a turnoff for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:13 PM
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For some reason the 30% woman looks more lean than the 25% one to me. Probably the lighting/angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:21 AM
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Yeah, I think that picture is the ideal body type for most women. Ideally my goal is to look more toned like her if not more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:20 AM
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Very reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:39 AM
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The bar is on the floor, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:39 AM
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Oh I'm aware. I was just curious to see different men's perspectives on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:53 AM
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I'm not looking for anything personally. I've just heard men on this sub say "don't be fat" but was wondering if there was any preference beyond that. Like if some men think toned women are too "masculine" or intimidating but others find it hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:47 AM
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I think most of those people who use those scooters are probably just fat and lazy and not actually disabled or unable to walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:44 AM
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Men, when you say that you want a fit-bodied woman, what do you actually mean by that? Is your definition of “fit” just skinny fat or do you mean lean, toned women with low body fat? What is your preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:21 AM
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It wasn’t even the chess part that bothered me, more so the fact that women should just stay home and simply wait for their husbands. It didn’t seem like he was joking there. I only scrolled so far but 90% of the comments were men agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:21 PM
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Those comments prove that not much has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:13 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily fashion that is overvalued, but the obsession over brands and luxury items by many women. I would say celebrities and social media are a big factor in this. You can still be fashionable on a budget without spending money on big brands. A poor woman can get most of her clothes at thrift stores and find high quality items for super cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:57 PM
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Seriously. This guy actually thinks 80k isn’t a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:53 PM
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Honestly that’s good advice for any man wanting to get into any relationship. Have a healthy mix of both “boyfriend” and “husband” traits. Same to be said for women with the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 08:18 PM
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It’s not even that - society has still upheld the idea that women should all be good mothers and wives, better than fathers even, while also adding onto that the idea that they should be educated and professionally successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:50 PM
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I don’t disagree with you. We’re both right in some way. But even traditionalists aren’t discouraging women from working and making their own money in some way, not unless they are Fundamentalist Christians who think a woman’s only job is to pop out 10 kids and never have any sense of independence. But telling women to strive to the top level in their field and not settle for anything less isn’t always good for them. Neither is telling them they can wait until 35+ to have kids and have no issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:43 PM
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I want a relationship because I want to experience life with someone who has the same interests, hobbies and desires as I do. It's nice to have a "partner in crime" to travel, go places with, and share things you like while being able to be intimate and passionate with that person. Marriage is less important to me but if I want to buy a house with someone or have kids marriage is a must, and I'd preferably want to do it sooner rather than later. But I would only marry someone who has the same va…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:33 AM
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Do you think this is ultimately the reason why traditional life is declining? No. Traditional life is declining because women were lied to and told that work would bring them joy and that being educated and "successful" is the most important thing in life. Then when it's time for these women to have children, they feel overwhelmed because women often take up more of the childcare, even when both parents work full-time. The modern mother has so many more expectations put upon her than the traditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:10 AM
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Him telling me if he’s taken or not when I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:07 PM
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I assume you also helped pay for his education and living expenses. Not every 18-year-old has those privileges though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:06 PM
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Agreed. I’m the same age as you and while I’m moving out soon, I do all of the cleaning and laundry at my dad’s house and cook on weekends while working full-time, and my dad doesn’t even work lol. I also pay half the utilities. Some of us actually help out our families and are just trying to save some money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:03 PM
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So women are just now finally admitting that the red pill is real, and you’re mad that they’re agreeing? I don’t think men should be height-shamed or dick-shamed, but are y’all really surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:45 AM
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Same here. Even just to talk about dating, I really only have time to be on Reddit once a week or so these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:26 PM
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I consider my dog to be my child, so I guess she is my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:22 PM
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Wanting your home to smell nice is a feminine trait, yes. Personally, I love nesting and making my home mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:20 PM
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I’d say this is true as a woman. I’m still young, in my early 20s, but I look at men a little younger than me (late teens-21 ish) and I couldn’t imagine dating younger - most are still in their immature college kid phase and many don’t even outgrow that for years beyond college. I don’t blame women for wanting to date their age and older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:35 PM
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Right. Black Widow gets a single movie when Thor, Captain America and Iron Man all got several. Can’t we just have one thing? It’s not supposed to be realistic, that’s the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:21 PM
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Does femininity mean women should just be the side character and let the man save her every time? A woman can be “feminine” while looking out for herself. In fact, we really have no choice but to do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:17 PM
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Not sure. Why do you hang around with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:07 PM

Who is it up to to decide what kind of partner anyone “deserves” though? People choose their partners for a reason - why does it matter who someone decides to date if it’s not your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:35 AM

What is an inkwell? I can’t keep up with all these pill terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:30 AM
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If he’s in a relationship I would assume he’s having regular sex. If he’s single than he might watch it more so, but even then if he’s going out of his way to watch it rather than work, spend time with family and friends, and neglect his health then it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:00 AM
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A dude who hasn’t watched porn is asexual. Men who aren’t asexual and hasn’t watched porn doesn’t exist. There is a huge difference between a man who has never seen porn in his entire life and a man who watches it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:08 PM
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I don’t think anyone’s definition of empowerment is being attracted to toxic assholes, even the radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:01 PM
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Yes, it’s definitely an oversimplification but there’s just not much incentive for men to commit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:58 PM
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Yes, from my experience most men who expect sex super early on usually don’t care much about a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:55 PM
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Oh I completely agree with you there. I’m just sick of seeing on here that any man who gets attention from any woman other than his own means he will cheat because he has no self-control or a moral compass. It’s really dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:21 PM
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They exist and my boyfriend is living proof of that. I think one thing to note is that he doesn’t really partake in social media so he doesn’t really get any distractions from there. But I know that if he goes out without me, he could have girls flirt with him (which they do) and he could easily sleep with them if he wanted to, but he chooses not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:47 PM
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That’s why they’re mentally unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:38 PM
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Most modern women aren’t gatekeeping sex anymore. This is actually a problem because modern men are gatekeeping commitment because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:28 PM
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If she's relaxed = she doesn't consider that you got options Not true, I know my man has options but I know he would never act upon any of them. What's a relationship without trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:46 AM
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Okay. So then why ridicule men who don’t know their kids’ teachers names as if that makes them a bad parent? If they’re the ones working all the time and the mom is a SAHM, then of course she’s going to be the one who takes care of that. It’s not like those men don’t want to see their kids more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:05 AM
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Right. Neither of my parents would’ve known the answer to that question, does that make them both unfit parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:00 AM
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And what if the woman is the one who wants to be the primary caretaker and do extra things for her kids? On average, women care more about the extra details in their child’s life more than men do and will usually take on that responsibility themselves. It’s not like men are forcing women to learn their teacher’s names. But yeah, I’ll agree with you that in the traditional caretaker/provider roles, in the event of a separation, the one who did most of the caretaking before should continue to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:32 AM
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Okay well that’s their own issue if those women don’t want their man to be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:49 AM
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Met my current LTR through ‘hookup culture’ so it worked for me. Although I’ve had a lot of bad experiences with hookup culture as well. I think a balance is needed to make it work - don’t sleep with people you just met a few hours before, but at the same time, if you like someone and the connection is there, then you shouldn’t feel ashamed about having sex either. If I had to choose between this culture and having it never exist though, I would choose the later. I think it’s done more damage th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:43 AM
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As she should.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:32 AM
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Yes and if she gained weight to the point where it’s unhealthy/he’s no longer attracted to her, wouldn’t being honest with her only help the problem? Obviously you should be as kind as possible about it but I don’t think lying and saying she looks fit and beautiful would solve the issue. Your woman should want you to be attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:31 AM
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Sure, he may be attracted. But I want to look as sexy as possible for my man. If I get his opinion on those things he could be even more attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:27 AM
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So if a man has to lie it means he’s not attracted to her? Why doesn’t he just tell her the truth? Wouldn’t that make him more attracted to her if she took his advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:44 AM
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Let me know how it works out for you when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:38 AM
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This is 100% fair and I completely agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:36 AM
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Have you ever done this before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:21 AM
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Nothing like a man who knows how to dirty talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:17 AM
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Well, if she’s already fat then the clothes won’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:17 AM
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Why would she complain after asking for your opinion? My guy tells me if he doesn’t like what I’m wearing and then I’ll just change because I value his opinion and it doesn’t happen often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:17 AM
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Men of PPD, if your woman asked for your opinion on something she was wearing and you didn’t like it, would you tell her the truth or lie and say you like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:34 AM
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I guess you could say that, before my current BF I had a few bad sexual experiences partly due to my own fault and this was kind of my way of shaming myself for that. I felt gross for ever having casual sex and I realized that I didn’t want to be sexualized like that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:22 AM
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Why is he with that woman in the first place if he’s not attracted to her and has to lie to her? If my BF doesn’t like something I’m wearing, he’ll tell me. Obviously he doesn’t say “you look ugly in that top” but he doesn’t say he likes something when he doesn’t. There’s ways to be honest to your woman without being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:16 AM
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I was really squeamish and felt an immense amount of pressure and shame for ever even having sex. I can relate to this, except it was completely internal. My family wasn’t traditional at all so I had very liberal views on sex until 1-2 years ago. I started developing a more traditional-ish mindset and put a lot of shame on myself for ever having sex in the first place even though I am in a committed LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:06 AM
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My BF is a good mix of both these people. He’s a sports/video games guy, he’s in finance, has a juvenile but great sense of humor, is physically active and lean, slightly balding, is conservative but hates art and beer. So maybe slightly more of Person A? But both these people the way you put them don’t sound great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:31 PM
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I would say traditional women have just as high if not higher standards than modern women do. They’ll clean and cook for you but in return expect you to do all the providing and protection for her and your children (and typically these women want several). Modern women are at least okay with splitting the bills. And this is coming from a traditional-ish woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:01 AM
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Of course he’s not going to say that. There’s a possibility he might not even know or care about her past and just likes her for her. At the same time men also aren’t saying “Women who have been around the block a few times make the best wives.” I don’t think men should be looking for virgins until marriage unless they themselves are virgins and have the same values, but at the same time they don’t want someone who believes “sex is just sex.” That’s another blue pill lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:56 PM
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And they’re not the ones dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:11 PM
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Simping for and wanting to marry are two different things. Buying women dinner and gifts because you want to sleep with them does not mean you like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:10 PM
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That can be true. Although she could’ve also had very bad sex with previous men and doesn’t know how to be “good.” And in no way am I advocating for men to date the equivalent of your high school virgin example. There’s a huge gray area between promiscuous and virgin. The way I see it, most marriageable men are taken in their 20s. Seems like the single ones approaching 35+ are entering forever bachelorhood. I’m not concerned with who’s the hottest I’m looking for a man I can grow with. And women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:07 PM
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Enjoying sex is different from sleeping with anyone to get it. You can be fun without being promiscuous. I don’t believe a man is “highest in value” at 35. I want to grow old with someone and that requires me to date at a similar age. Yes, women should work and make their own money. No denying that. A woman having a career is different from being a career woman. Exactly. It matters to both eventually, especially so once children are involved. There are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:58 AM
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This is a fun game, I'll go first: Men like "fun" (ie sexually promiscuous) women Don't get married/have kids until 30s Men love a career woman Men should always love and stick by their woman no matter what happens It doesn't matter who's the breadwinner I could go on and on. This deserves its own thread tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:10 AM
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Despite the fact that violent crime has not risen in general, people are more scared of predators now and don't let the kids play outside. I think the media glorifying serial killers and mass murderers in recent years. Of course this simultaneously fascinates and terrifies people. In general I don't think people look at things like that though and think "this is why I don't want kids" - it's more so the fear of it happening to themselves or people that already exist. I'd say it's probably more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:13 AM
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I agree with you that men's problems are less discussed than women's but the moment you decide getting laid is more important than actually solving men's issues is the moment you lost. You already accepted that you're one of the men you describe in your post: putting women on a pedestal and simping to get laid because your priorities are elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:47 AM
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Again, that man (actually, that boy) that gets upset just by seeing a female worker because he lost his job to a woman has some serious issues if his first instinct is misogyny. You’ve given me some clarity in that line of thinking but at the same time it’s impossible for me to sympathize with it. Any emotionally and mentally healthy person knows not to blame their problems on innocent bystanders. Boys learn quickly that we do not deserve shit, we have to fight for it and earn it… This entire pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:01 PM
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women are a source of anguish, irritation, or even an existential threat to them I don’t think a female cashier collecting your change is threatening your Being in any way. If a man is seriously that paranoid about interacting with any woman in society to the point where he purposefully avoids the scenario I described above, he has some deep-seated psychological issues and needs therapy. some guys who are too far gone feel that every woman is a living mockery of his manhood What does this even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:06 AM
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There is nothing set in stone that forbids a man from having platonic, business, transactional, filial or familial relationships with women, although men certainly have the right to try it, if they think they can pull it off. Men who go Monk try to accomplish this. But for the majority of men we can't just turn away from our mothers, sisters, daughters etc nor can we completely cut off talking to women at work, at the store, or in everyday interactions where speaking to a woman is merited and ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 11:20 PM
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Okay, that clears it up. It actually makes sense that the more attractive women are not the ones hooking up due to higher levels of confidence and self-esteem. They are more likely to know their self-worth better than the more average ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:21 PM
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Ok. Thanks for the discussion. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:51 AM
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Your comment to my response below for some reason is showing up as "missing" although I can still see it on your page, so I will respond to it here: Don't commend me just yet, the anger never goes away. But that doesn't mean we can't get past it and learn to think independently of it; and to understand how this emotion clouds our thinking and our judgement. To be angry is natural, as it is to be hungry. But one has to learn self control - and to think with a clear head, and keep the passions dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:45 AM
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No, because that’s not what he said, this is how I know you’re being disingenuous, because you’re trying to imply arguments he was making. No, I’m trying to understand the argument, because I still don’t quite get it. He makes it seem as if average men are only able to get sex inside of relationships, which I disagree with. On top of that, if an average man can only take the only thing he can get, he might not think that woman is marriageable since there’s a possibility she’s promiscuous and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:05 AM
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No, your wrong, he's saying that because the more promiscuous women their are the less men have to choose from for relationship or marriageable women since those men are average that's the only way they will get sex, Ah, I see. I stand corrected. So is he saying that average men only want relationships so that they have access to sex? he's mainly talking about women in the west. If you haven't noticed women are usually only hooking up with a specific type of guy. Actually I haven't noticed, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:30 AM
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So not wanting to promote promiscuity is incel mentality? Not that I agree with him but your argument is incoherent. No, I'm fine with not promoting promiscuity - we shouldn't. But the idea that women having sex with multiple partners = less average men having sex just seems like it wouldn't be something that someone who is able to get laid would care about. There smart in my opinion. It's probably more so to do with the fact that they don't care about marriage or having children. The majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:13 AM
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The problem with this “essay” is your assuming men here actually have these problems when none of them here ever claim they ever did. I'm talking about the men who have an "incel" type of mentality, such as the OP of this post. I don't necessarily mean to say that they've all experienced bad things from women or that they're all misogynists by any means. I just wanted to point out that I recognize the issues men experience in dating because I feel like those issues don't get acknowledged enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:54 AM
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That makes more sense, but I still don't see how someone can deduct that without knowing who she's having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:35 AM
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I am sometimes concerned for the mental health of the men on this sub that come here just to complain about the opposite gender. There's men on here that debate in good faith and don't hate women, but for the rest, it makes me sad to see that so many men have given into this trap of self-pity that I think is only detrimental to their health and well-being. This is only exacerbated by other men to the point where it becomes an echo chamber, and that's the only content they see and consume, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:33 AM
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Yep, and as a guy going my own way I am naturally allergic to incelish nihilism and the victim mentalities. And that's truly a great thing and something more men should do tbh, but there has been a ton of men on this sub that claim to GTOW while seething on the internet about "women bad." You are clearly not one of those people though and are actually GYOW so I commend you. I have my issues with women, there is no shame in hiding or denying it, so instead of throwing a tantrum about it I just de…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:15 AM
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I assume the reasoning behind that is because girls having casual sex automatically makes them trashy and not the men they are sleeping with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:54 AM
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Being monogamous also means less sex for the rest of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:44 AM
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You are 100% correct in everything you're saying. A lot of men on this sub claim to be redpilled but then backtrack into some incel/blackpill/self-pity narrative that's only harmful to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:41 AM
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