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Actual double digit IQ take. People want the best food, the best job, the most amount of money they can get. Doesn't mean we can't respect the boundaries of what it means to obtain those things, even if it means we go without. God, these fucking Red Pilled podcasts has ruined a generation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:36 AM
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Actually, that is a new take. I am assuming you mean that videogames launched the idea of women who were empowered, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:10 PM
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Very good point. Rap is filled with 1000x more misogyny than any videogame has ever touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:44 PM
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This isn't normal at all. I treat friends who are women the same as I treat men who are friends: I pay for what I feel like and if I can pay for things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:02 PM
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Perfect answer. Unfortunately, this will have real world consequences. A lot of people get their information from Tik Tok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:01 PM
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Faking confident or acting arrogance only works for short term captivation. If you don't have anything to back it up, like an interesting/solid lifestyle, network of friends, or an ability and willingness to spend money, you will absolutely get checked. It's definitely not a good play to rely on too much, nor at all really. Confidence usually comes after accomplishing difficult things in life, so men are better off focusing on being economically viable before even trying with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:38 AM
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They are just mad that you are breaking their view of the world. They don't even care to try to listen to what you said, they are either downvoting your outlook or scheming a reply that comforts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:10 PM
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People are so mad at your analysis lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:54 PM
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Sure. But just as much as this is okay, you have no room to shame when high value men keep these girls in the "fuck only" zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:22 AM
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Mostly because of how media portrays attractive people. And seeing how much attention and adoration attractive people get. It's a jealousy and insecurity issue that often doesn't map onto reality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:15 PM
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What? I wasn't letting her gaslight me, I was wondering where she got the idea of the Redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:09 PM
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I remember when Redpill was about working out, making money, and dating non-exclusively. Tf is all of this now 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:00 PM
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Because women require a financial threshold to be met before they are willing to give a man a chance. It's worth talking about and shaming women for acting this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:28 AM
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This. It's not hard to have these conversations ASAP, and act accordingly. If someone wants a paternity test and the other doesn't, you guys aren't compatible. Find out sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:43 AM
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OP's post is nuclear levels of copium 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:05 AM
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No, I was predicting you would use anecdotal examples to justify my statement as false. Often, when I tell people "average/ugly men have a hard time dating," people will reply: "That's not true, I know an ugly guy and he has no problem, so it's just your personality." It's a dumb argument for complex reasons, so I acknowledge it before anyone brings it uo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:11 PM
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No. It sounds chaotic, and everyone is on MDMA, which loosens peoples inhibitions but impairs their judgment. I don't really count intoxicated people having sex as a hookup. It sounds like a recipe for massive breaches in consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:52 PM
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Well yeah, attractive women have needs and desires too. They just have the command value to hook up with men they want to hook up with, and it isn't average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:44 PM
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Disagree. Right time and place are correct, but you have to be an exceptionally attractive guy if the woman is at least average looking. You are going to give me anecdotal examples of unattractive men who "hook up" all the time. That is incongruent with the numerous testimonials of men who are average and are experiencing sexual scarcity despite putting a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:43 PM
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There is often a huge gap in value that the man has over her before she is willing to entertain a hookup. So it's either an average woman who will hook up with an exceptional guy, or a really ugly woman who average men will hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:58 PM
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It's pure evil that men are forced to even have to choose between two hells.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 04:14 AM
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"Hey man, see how these women want a man who makes decent money? You can make that money by risking your life in war!" It's hard not to see this and refrain from reacting with maniacal laughter.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 04:13 AM
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This. The idea that women are less sociopathic/psychopathic than men is moronic when you consider that women engage in unethical behaviors covertly simply because they don't have the physical strength or evolutionary aggression to be direct about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:35 PM
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Yes, women hate weak men more than they hate evil men. It's rather mind boggling, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:48 AM
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It's insane that women get away with taking photos of men in public. If a guy did this, you already know it would be a different story.
/r/MensRights03/02/25 05:54 AM
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The problem amplifies because the men who are respectful and considerate of women's needs hear the discourse and don't approach women, but the men who have no regard and the audacity will approach women. Those men end up being the experiences that make women hate being approached, and these dynamics we are analyzing make it so the only time women are approached is by inconsiderate and arrogant men, snowballing the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:39 AM
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The fact that the prosecutor's even SUGGEST that is sick and we should not be celebrating the bare minimum. Society needs to do better.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 02:19 PM
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"A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" Losers are ticking time bombs against a civilized society. Dismissing them has always been a huge factor to why incels have managed to commit so many crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:34 PM
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Ugly and average guys have bad personalities for a reason. Their lives suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:14 PM
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I never said they will. Hot men, rich men, or high status men can get away with having a shitty personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:06 PM
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Maybe not, but the way people use "it's your bad personality" as a golden ticket to justifying a man's loneliness is intellectually dishonest. Men with bad personalities successfully date women all the time. Personality is not as influential to a man's dating optionality as people say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:00 PM
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Not passing attention. Women also get more financial and emotional support. They are also more socially accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:54 PM
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Those who weren't spoonfed love learn to lick it through knives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:53 PM
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Girls not making everything about themselves and their feelings challenge (difficulty level: IMPOSSIBLE)
/r/MensRights17/08/24 05:23 PM
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You aren't allowed to do anything other than glorify them. Our future is going to get worse with this.
/r/MensRights16/08/24 11:18 AM
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Are we really surprised? It's a gynocentric social order now. Men aren't people to be considered to most people these days, even by other men.
/r/MensRights16/08/24 08:34 AM
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.... you do realize men would 100% date pickme girls if there was a decent amount of them. Not only are they naturally rare, but they are becoming rarer the more women continue to dissuade women from men. Women see pickme women as something to rehabilitate from. The dating pool is going to continue degrading in the men's favor because women control sex, and men pursue and need sex. It's not going to happen. Adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:59 AM
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What are you talking about with TRP and PUA, and how does it relate to my point that men have the right to not cooperate with practical advice? Also, get over yourself. This isn't a motivational subreddit. It is a debate subreddit. It's not "crabs dragging crabs down" to say that men can choose isolation if they want to. Society isn't doing enough to make men feel accepted, and disengaging from society is absolutely a normal response. If you don't like that from most men, start doing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:15 PM
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"... they weren't attractive." 😅 at least you said the quiet part out loud. This is pretty much the whole point of the thread: Average guys don't have the privilege of making an advance on a woman. It's better to rip that bandaid out, and men can adapt rather than continuously fooling men into emoty dating lives. Men who are reading this, adapt or perish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:01 PM
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Physical attraction just makes the process kuch easier. It is still possible as an average or ugly man to find women who want to date him, but he has to put in MUCH MUCH more effort in traits he can control to compensate for his lack of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:58 PM
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This is why you are blue pilled. A lot of boys get left behind in school and have social disorders that make it hard for them to integrate into school environments. Just because a boy is spending 5 days out of the week in school doesn't mean he is improving his social skills. The way society doesn't give boys special considerations in their development is a whole separate mountain to climb, but it is definitely a conversation worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:57 PM
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You are still continuing to offer solutions for men to uphold, which is fine. I am sure there are men who could learn from it. My point is that society doesn't make it easy for men to feel accepted, especially if they are average, and men have the right to feel dissatisfied or even angry about it. Men also have the right to listen to practical advice and not cooperate with it. Social calibration is a steep hill to climb when you aren't easily accepted by groups or women, so if men choose isolati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:53 PM
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Yes yes, having social calibration helps. You know what social calibration requires? Social experience. You know what is required to gain social experience? Being accepted socially. Men aren't accepted socially like women are. Women are more often invited to places for free, where men have to pay, if they are even invited at all. A man making social advances is seen as a threat until proven innocent, so if the guy can't prove he is harmless in the first few lines of conversation, he runs the ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:22 PM
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I don't know how to tell you this, but if a guy is approaching a woman, he isn't just doing that to chat. Now, obviously, being too blatant and upfront is repulsive to women, but if men don't approach, they will always have their hand empty. There's also nothing wrong with approaching strangers as long as the guy is mindful and respectful if the other person doesn't want to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:14 PM
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Women will say this but then get extremely angry when guys make any approaches to women. We are in a double bind here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:07 PM
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Yeah. I was friends with a lot of women, who constantly complained about the type of shit men pulled on them. It made me never want to be those kinds of guys, so I internalized any desire I had for women. It's always funny when women hear when men do sad shit like this and NOW want to encourage men to be more proactive, but when men are proactively looking for sex, women are extremely critical of their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:06 PM
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Yeah, the important part to remember is that there is a difference between wanting something and how you try to get it. A man having the desire to talk to women and have sex with them is completely valid, and there is nothing wrong with that. It would only be a problem if he was harming others in his pursuit. People have a tendency to equate people's looks with their moral character, so when attractive men make approaches, it isn't seen as audacious as it would if an average or ugly man made app…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:02 PM
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Men won't know if a woman is interested or not until he makes an approach, so your first whole point is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:55 PM
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Hell, there are even polyamorous people who only have room for one male in their relationship. In general, there is something about men that just isn't appealing to have them participate in sexual environments. I agree that there is a category of slut-shaming related to hating penises and whatever they touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:24 AM
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So a lot of us were sold a false bill of goods. No wonder men are angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:30 PM
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Meh, I am glad people have an avenue to supplement whatever emotional or sexual catharsis they are yearning for. Most of the men who use AI were never part of the dating pool to begin with. It's better that they have a means to quell their desires rather than let it fester before becoming a problem to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:19 PM
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Don't care unless she is treated exactly the same as a man would in these situations. Guaranteed there will be some sort of leniency.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 02:39 AM
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They don't need to rely on entitlement when there is always another man willing to emote for them. You can disengage from women all you want. They will just date the guys who do engage with them. All you'll be doing is seeing yourself out of the gene pool, but most men are doomed to extinction anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:43 PM
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He boof it till I ooohhh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:50 PM
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Some don't. Some do, and don't want to cooperate. Autistic people can be stubborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:50 PM
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Women would rather gamble with an abusive man than give an autistic guy a chance. It's worth observing and mocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:46 PM
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I feel the same way about how incel and simp is overused, but we aquiesce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:42 PM
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Just because something is sexist, doesn't mean society has an obligation to work on it. The fact is that women have no incentive to approach men, and regardless of the idea of men having to approach women being an old generational value that isn't as valid in modern times, they aren't going to want to give away that social power. It just proves that women are hypocrites and don't give a damn about equality. They just want to tip the scales in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:30 PM
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Most people don't use "pickme" althe way you are defining it. It's like how people overuse the "incel" and "simp" as an insult. Pretty much if a girl does anything to come off as appealing to men, whether it is being considerate towards male struggles or being willing to "please and submit to a man", other women will consider her a pick me. It breeds social pressure for women to act in ways that go against what men want. Usually a woman's friend group sabotaged a woman's ability to retain a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:20 PM
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That's fair, I am just giving a counterpoint for clarification, and on the off chance someone is reading this, who can use the advice to walk away from women not giving them what they want. A lot of men feel a sort of guilt and shame for having sexual desires and are sometimes even guilt-tripped into being friends with a woman they have sexual or romantic feelings for. They need someone to teach them that their needs are valid, and as long as they are respectful to others' boundaries, they can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:54 PM
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Women know within seconds of meeting a guy if they are WILLING to have sex with them, and it's all related to your looks and possibly other context and social demeanor. If you didn't pass the initial judgment, there is literally nothing you can do to convince this woman to sleep with you. After they made that determination, NOW, you can engage in flirting, seduction, and qualifying to her and seeing if you can play your cards right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:47 PM
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Yeah, going through the process of dancing through a woman's vetting process just to finally be labeled a "decent man" and possibly leading to sex isn't a guy's idea of a good time. This is especially harder to deal with when it has been demonstrably proven that women have inconsistent standards and lower the amount of obstacles to a man getting sex if he is attractive enough to her. There is a reason the Redpill has that iron rule, "If she makes you wait for sex, it is never worth it." It's so …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:44 PM
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I'm just using a comment that disagrees so I can expand on my own take without a mod deleting my comment: It's honestly one of the most exciting parts about getting older as a man. Your libido is lowered, so your horniness isn't blinding you from people that clearly aren't serving you. In a funny, paradoxical sense, women are attracted to men who aren't obsessed with sex, so it works doubly in a man's favor. If a man plays his cards right approaching his 30's, he gets a taste of how it feels to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:36 PM
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Isn't that the point of involuntary celibacy? The fact that it is impossible for them to gain sexual consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:23 AM
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I reduced my internet usage and went outside more. The world is so much more different than the internet makes it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:22 AM
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You do realize the whole point of MGTOW is to disengage from everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:18 PM
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Women dint like sharing, but if they like the guy enough and she finds out he is seeing other girls, it is surprising how many women will tolerate it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:42 AM
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It can happen, for sure, men being compromised by social media, but it's not the same. Men get validation from sexual catharsis provided by women Women get validation from attention. The difference in how men and women use social media can not be overstated. Just like how porn warps men's view on sex, social media warps women's views on their personal beauty. Just like how porn conditions men to behave in ways that repulse women, social media conditions women to behave in ways that repulse men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:01 PM
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Social media causes similar mental defects for women, but it isn't as universally condemned like porn is. Plus, the only time porn is observed is the most extreme addictions or behaviors, which gives us a bias. There are plenty of healthy porn users who live stable and functional lives and don't harm anyone, the problem is we cannot detect or study them because they aren't in our observation, they are just living life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:32 PM
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That last sentence solidified it. You are a terrible human and will grant massive amounts of empathy and charity to women and absolutely none to neurodivergent men. No one should listen to anything you have to say.
/r/MensRights17/07/24 08:31 PM
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Yes, and it should be normalized until people start inquiring why men need to have this "talk" with their sons.
/r/MensRights17/07/24 08:25 PM
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Ego protection. It's not a gendered concept. People often try to come back from a perceived disparity in a quality to feel better about themselves. It's like when a guy goes to the gym often, and an overweight dude tells him, "bro, I don't need muscles to get women". It's just protecting their ego.
/r/MensRights16/07/24 09:00 AM
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None of this is his science works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:27 AM
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Left believes men are too privileged to consider their mental health Right doesn't believe in mental health, just have family and do job. At least there is some degree of benefit voting Right, albeit it's miniscule.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:17 AM
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I agree. It still comes down to convincing a woman to be willing to conceive a kid with you (or for you, if it gets that drastic). And yes, it continues to be even more depressing when there is too much obstacles and expectations to actually keep a woman in your life, let alone a woman that is to your preference.
/r/MensRights26/06/24 10:10 PM
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It really cannot be overstated how much men's prime motivation to be better humans, for both themselves and for society, was rooted in their desire to attain women. If men see the cards on the table and see how unlikely it is to get women, they will adapt and seek a different goal. That goal can range in ways to benign to downright terrifying.
/r/MensRights26/06/24 07:39 PM
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That's crazy continues minding my own business and not contributing to the workforce
/r/MensRights26/06/24 07:29 PM
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I'll be adopting an "All Roads Lead to Rome" path, where my most common reply to every benefit is: That's not a benefit for just marriage, but a benefit that can be had by having a life partner. Marriage is just a contract to externalize that bond, and religion and the Government attached many other factors after it.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 08:49 AM
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It's so intellectually dishonest.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 10:06 PM
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Nope. Go outside. Reality is not as bad as the internet makes it out to be. Don't drink the koolaid.
/r/MensRights18/06/24 07:16 AM
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These extreme feminists have an "All Roads Lead to Rome" fallacy. It doesn't matter what you present to them. Even if it is factual or eloquent, they will always figure out a way to rationalize things back to women being oppressed.
/r/MensRights18/06/24 04:31 AM
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What group is this from, I need another lolcow
/r/MensRights18/06/24 04:25 AM
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I always likened the idea of "True Red Pill" to basically having an adept awareness of factors influencing your dating/mating quality that wasn't there before (Blue Pill). Some of these factors can be lukewarm and even wholesome (Figure out your own path and don't make a person your entire purpose. Steel yourself to adopting habits that are hard to do, but yield worthy results, etc...) What gives the Redpill such a bad reputation is that they also explore unethical/dark factors (depriving a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:01 AM
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The fact that these kind of people are not mobbed to absolute oblivion, but anytime men say or do anything even slightly close to that, we would get absolutely destroyed for it, proves we live in a gynocentric society. Men will never be considered at the level women are. Men will never experience fair judgement or criticisms.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 06:48 AM
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I think sampling bias has a major influence on this perception. Men who are angry make it very well known to those around them. Everyone, man or woman, has experienced the wrath of an angry man in their life. It can sometimes be traumatizing. Experiences that illicit strong feelings have a tendency to imprint in our perception, and if we aren't careful, it can warp our perspective. After enough collective experience with male anger/wrath, eventually people conclude that it's a source of emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:29 PM
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Mate choice copying is a logical chain that doesn't make sense with enough cognition, but doesn't change its overall influence. Whether a woman starts fawning over men who hit trends or try to bed a man who is spoken for, it all stems from the psychology that, if one woman approved of this man, this man may have something I want. Even with women as platonic friends, they help signal to women and men that you aren't a creep. There is just something about women socially approving of a man that doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:51 AM
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Visual stimulation and transactional sex have been recorded for millennia. The evolution and acceleration of it's mediums are what makes everything so unfounded these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:29 AM
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I think the type of men who try to fear monger women about "dying alone" are discreetly projecting their own personal fears. The men that spout these talking points are more often traditional/conservative men. They want a traditional wife, which is becoming more rare to find during this new progressive zeitgeist. The fear of missing out on the traditional family unit experience is very real for these men, a fear that isn't shared by women who are ecstatic to have the liberties they have now. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:44 AM
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Because I'm the one 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:41 AM
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Men have to become, women just are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:39 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:46 AM
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I think women are less likely to be bothered by the friendzone because access to non-platonic intimacy is so readily available to them. The real "zone" for women is the "Fuck-only" zone, where she wants the guy to be loyal and monogamous, but he can only provide sexual access. The problem with "zones" in general is that the person you want something from has communicated exactly what they want from you, whether it is friendship, sex, or anything else. You are the one who willingly stays in that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:43 AM
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It's not common enough to use as a substantial way to get women, but it is something observed enough that it cannot be disregarded. It must come from either a woman having a warped preference to being treated differently, or the occurrence of a woman admiring a man who is unapologetic about their views/conduct, even if it's in a terrible direction. It's odd to think about, let alone accept, but a misogynistic man with good masculine qualities like resolve and fortitude will have more satisfactor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:02 PM
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The only correct answer. Redpill people are just lunatics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:03 PM
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Me after I lose an argument here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:39 AM
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I can agree with this, but it doesn't really resolve the issue. I'm not saying it was supposed to, but a key aspect for men's validation is that the woman (or women) they are intimately involved with have an authentic desire to have quality sex with them. It can cause all sorts of problems for the man to not receive that sexual catharsis. No one should feel forced or obligated to have sex with someone just to please them, but it is often observed that women give frequent and quality sex very eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:50 PM
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The ick is more broad than incongruent gendered behavior. Other things that can give someone the ick are: chewing with your mouth open, having a funny laugh, being very animated when speaking. It can be actions that can be seen as goofy, quirky, or even disgusting. As for women getting the ick from men who exhibit feminine behavior, that is 100% true, and to a rate that most people are uncomfortable admitting. Sexual polarity is a key aspect in navigating the generalized intrasexual marketplace.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:39 PM
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A key question: How long did it take to sleep with the girls you met like this? If it was within the same night or the night after, those girls were going to be available to someone regardless. Despite men seeking sex and being unsuccessful at it, most men want to sleep with women who don't make it easy to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:07 AM
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She is just being throwing drabble that sounds intellectual to obfuscate the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:34 AM
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How is Cardi B held accountable if she isn't in jail? That doesn't make any sense. Stating that men are held less accountable for it is just flat out wrong, men who are found to commit heinous acts are named, shamed, exposed on social media, probably get beat up (justifiably), and end up in jail. That was sucu a terrible rebuttal. In regards to the MeToo movement and the consequences of a false accusation, you are only talking about high-profile celebrity cases, celebrities who have the means to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:03 PM
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This is definitely a "grass is greener on the other side" complex, that shows how much we all have inherent biases. I would argue the opposite: women are much more likely to be judged with less leniency and be seen through an empathetic lense, where as men are much more likely to be judged severely and seen through a critical lense. Cardi B admitted to drugging guys and stealing their money, and she was nevwr held accountable for it. A woman stabbed her date 100 times and only got probation rece…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:22 PM
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In a way, this is unironically acceptable. For men, it's not only about the sex, but more so about their partner authentically desiring them and having the desire to please them. Sex for men is a huge relief from the burdens of life (it is also for women, but it seems men are a lot more fixated on it than women are). For men, it's not only about the money, but the idea that they are trusting their man to be responsible enough to do what is necessary to take care of themselves, the relationship, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:31 PM
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The people against this objective fact are arguing in so much bad faith, it's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:29 PM
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Less harsh sentences. Just because you got charged and arrested doesn't mean the punishment fit the crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:26 PM
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What kind of argument is this lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:25 PM
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Depends on how much she respects and admires her partner. If she respects and admires her partner, he takes care of her, treats her well, but still maintains a masculine presence, shows ambition, integrity, and dedication to his work and his skills, she will genuinely desire him all the time. If she is in a relationship with someone she settled with, and simply was looking for someone to bum resources off of, it will lead to a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:07 PM
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How do men benefit from marriage and fatherhood in a world that doesn't empathize with us, and always perpetuates the idea that we are inherently evil predators?
/r/MensRights17/01/24 12:37 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:29 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:28 AM
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This is such a funny thread because 80% of y'all have such a limited grasp of the situation and are making absolute judgments from one relationship Literally go outside y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:04 AM
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Physical pleasure, no stress about long-term commitment, gaining sexual experience that can help make you a better partner when the time comes, learning about how other people work so you can netter navigate friendships and relationships. You aren't looking for an answer. You are looking to argue and come up with rebuttals to anyone's answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:20 AM
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Fair, but I was talking more about hook up culture, and having sex without commitment. The examples you provided are people trying to have their cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:40 AM
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The idea that men don't try to exercise sexual liberation and have a "hoe phase" is just flat out wrong. The only difference is men aren't allowed to engage in short-term dating strategies unless they are exceptional in their looks, finances or social status (unless they are willing to dumpster dive and sleep with super low quality women). Western society is all about individual rights and hedonism. Our population prioritizes personal pleasure over collective responsibility. People don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:03 AM
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I'd rather the worst women display their red flags so we know who to avoid. It's sad to know that some insecure men will still be okay with being in a relationship with them.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 01:34 AM
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Why are we downvoting her? She asked a sincere question, and the guy gave a non-answer. Her feelings are valid, y'all are just being bad-spirited.
/r/MensRights07/01/24 01:51 PM
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Sergio is not a name that evokes sexy vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:21 PM
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Women get empathy, men get criticisms. Look up the "Women are wonderful effect". People have a natural tendency to view women in a positive light and lean towards assumptions that continue that image. It's the opposite for men. Men are considered expendable and always in the wrong, so anytime situations occur, people naturally assume that the man did something to cause things to be that way, and are deserving of what they receive. We can't change this. Believe me I tried.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 10:36 AM
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These are the narcissistic women who get played by the elite group of men she finds exclusive attraction towards and assumes all men are like that. She'll also describe all her exes as narcissists to deflect accountability.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 09:19 AM
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I agree that the eugenics conversations leads to people playing God, picking and choosing which qualities deserve reproduction. As for the reality of life, it's complicates. The only thing I can say with great certainty is that the ability to reproduce is inherently void of morality. As you said, people with terrible personalities still find ways to reproduce. As for people with disabilities, that is definitely more nuanced. It goes to show that most people can reproduce if they want to, but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:30 PM
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I've heard a take one time that, if you really think about it, when someone rejects you as a romantic or sexual candidate, in a very subtle and nuanced way, they are basically saying they don't find you genetically or resourcefully fit enough to believe your genetic coding is worth passing off. Essentially, they are okay with seeing you go extinct. It's one of the reasons why rejection is so hard to deal with. It feels personal, even if we know better. Incels have always been undesirable men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:05 PM
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I know the whole point of this subreddit is to exchange communication, but my experience here has taught me that some things will just never be understood from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:37 PM
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Yeah, it's impossible to have a discussion about gender differences without the opposite sexes accelerating to wanting to murder eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:41 AM
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Women started it by creating their own spaces, which is fine, but it's absolutely unreasonable to think men shouldn't have their own spaces. The real disheartening thing is that both sexes have essentially separated and quarantined themselves in their own spaces, which turns into toxic echochambers. It incites a lot of binary and polarized conflict between the two sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:43 AM
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What social events? There have been talking points that women don't go to bars to get approached by men or any activity-based social setting (they go there to engage in the activity).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:51 PM
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It would more so be average women. The guy will initially find novelty in exploring a few relationships before getting bored and wanting something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:13 PM
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It wouldn't work because a decent amount of men would totally accept a sugar mama.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:09 PM
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Men are more likely to be okay with being romantically/sexually involved with someone who they have to "take care of" in the sense of either financially or emotionally. Women, on the other hand, are more likely to want to date someone of equal responsibility or higher. It's why there is a lot of talk about how women "date up or equal", where as men usually "date down". It seems like men are much more willing to support a partner at the expense of themselves, while women are more likely to suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:54 PM
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The women who are disgusted by men who would entertain the idea of android girlfriends were never planning to date the kind of men who would consider android gfs, so it wouldn't change the sexual marketplace that much anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:17 AM
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It used to be that way. Women were often considered the more compassionate, more "evolutionized" sex before the internet allowed us more revelations. It turns out that people are mostly incapable of empathizing with demographics they don't relate to without a large degree of intellectualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:46 PM
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There is a psychological concept called the "Halo Effect". It specifices that a person being seen in a good light in one aspect may translate to assumptions that the person has good qualities in every aspect of their life. A good example is how everyone used to think celebrities were the harbingers of morality and virtue before learning that they are susceptible to human error like drug addictions, toxicity, and even predatory/abusive behavior. I believe this psychological concept can translate …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:41 PM
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I couldn't have worded it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:51 PM
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Most guys aren't bringing talking points that the male loneliness epidemic is women's problems: it's obvious women don't care and are selfish and only seek what they can get out of this world. What men want is to know what we need to do to get what we want, and for women to not get in our way. And that's exactly what we are going to. This is what happens when you tell people to forge their own path. We don't owe the world anything and we don't have to cooperate with what an ideal male looks like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:15 AM
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It's the equivalent of throwing shit and seeing what sticks. The dating stage with girls is usually so brittle and fleeting that the best play is to play the numbers game to increase the chances of finally getting a good outcome. This is taught in sales. Contacy as many people as possible, set up as many appointments as possible, because eventually one of them will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:19 AM
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Selective rule enforcement from admins. You are agreeing with a CMV post. I've gotten muted for 24 hours when I do. It's annoying seeing other people get away with what you couldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:17 AM
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From my understanding, it's meant to describe characteristics like being open and willing to communicate your feelings and boundaries, and to be open and willing to receive your partners feelings and boundaries. As opposed to emotionally unavailable people who answer every "Is everything okay?" with "I'm fine", or refuses to talk about glaring issues going on in the relationship and proactively work on resolving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:42 AM
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I won't lie, this kind of shit radicalizes the hell out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:28 AM
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I think most people who talk about this are highlighting how women utilize the attention they get to further their goals. Women are more likely to be accepted in social clubs/events without paying, women are more likely to be successful on social media or other forms of content creation. Women have also been reported to go on dates with men with absolutely no intention to get to know the man or becomecintimate with him, just wanting a free meal. They also are more likely to get help when they ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:35 AM
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Weird how this comment is agreeing with the original statement, but isn't removed since this is a "CMV" post. Selective rule enforcement?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:31 AM
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Fucking platitudes, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:50 PM
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Looks is king. Everything else is just secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:49 PM
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I experienced this myself. It really shoehorns most discussions into a binary direction. And they wonder why everyone is so toxic, we aren't allowed to DISCUSS thinga, only DISAGREE.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:17 PM
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By her logic, the only correct way of living is to stay inside a bunker all day because there are cases where people die going to the grocery store or die meeting up with friends. Anytime one dangerous situation happens, you must never indulge the factors that contributed to it. It's terrible logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:34 PM
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I really hope this is just a bot mistake. I clearly marked it as a "Discussion".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:28 PM
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It's a wide spectrum of reasons why men use porn. Some use it to get themselves off since the frequency of sex with their partner is not satisfactory enough. Some use it because the women involved in pornography appeal to the male gaze, and their partner, despite loving them, doesn't visually please them enough. Like any other drug or pleasurable activity, it can cause complications when you build a dependency on porn use and can influence your life negatively when you aren't mindful of how much…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:04 PM
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You didn't really counter anything he said. You just presented it in a way that wasn't inflammatory. Literally, all this was is a "Yeah, so what? Deal with it."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:44 PM
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While this is a fine and dandy point, it didn't engage with the idea that women find men who display any vulnerable, weird, or feminine behavior as naturally repulsive, which can rubber band men to pursue toxic masculinity. Basically, for men, it is safe to say that being a man of balanced masculinity will be seen positively by women, I agree. But it is still also safe to be masculine in a toxic way. Smart women will see through it and walk away from it, but there are still women who will find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:29 PM
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People are more likely to comply with someone else's qualifications if they have a scarcity mindset, as opposed to an abundance mindset. If someone can't find a job but desperately wants/needs one, they will accept the stipulations of any job that will hire them, even if it isn't to their preference. A man without options is more likely to cooperate with the only option he may have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:51 PM
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People want different things for different reasons. Some may feel repressed from a sexually repressed upbringing, others feel sexual exploration is a part of their identity. Just because one cannot fathom the idea of someone wanting to do things past what they would do themselves doesn't invalidate their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:21 AM
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Most women think there is something wrong with a man who is a virgin. Just because you want a virgin doesn't mean the majority of women want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:24 PM
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I have a theory that a lot of men who transition to women do so because the dysphoria of gendered treatment in society is that severe to them, and not because they feel like they are in the wrong body on a psychological level. I'm pretty sure most men would see a change in their motivation, self-confidence, and energy levels if they received even a fraction of the attention women get. I am cognizant that the grass isn't always green on the other side: women struggle a lot with receiving too much…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:14 PM
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As a man who has experienced being in the friendzone, and never having experienced being in the fuck only zone, I think bring fuck only zoned is much MUCH more damaging, acutely speaking. I don't like to compare or invalidate struggles, I just think sharing a physical bond ripe with strong hormonal and emotional catharsis, and to realize you are nevwr going to proveed further than this is much more mortifying. At least, in the friendzone, you knew your place before you got too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:04 AM
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I disagree. I think people will set boundaries on the level of social interaction they find acceptable for the two of you to be in, and it's your choice if you want to accept the terms and conditions they are offering or if it's something you don't want. So you do get PUT in the "friend zone", or "fuck-only zone, but it's your responsibility to decide if you are okay with, or not. If not, you need to cut contact and move on, which there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:02 AM
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I never said you were yelling at me. I said your argumentative strategy is a headache to deal with when what you desire is a discussion. By yelling match, I mean the potential of this heated argument devolving into insults. You keep throwing subtle jabs and you probably don't even see how unnecessarily aggressive you are being. You also assumed I was throwing around verbiage to try to make you look irrational. That was never my intention, and you thinking that shows you have a warped view of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 03:37 PM
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Your ego cannot handle any criticism without turning things into an "Us vs. Them" conflict. Your argument has merit, but it's incredibly reductive yet highly confirmed, which is a headache to deal with for people who want a better discussion instead of a yelling match. Of course, people should apply sexual education in their lives and practice safe forms of sexual intimacy in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies and even prevent entertaining the idea of abortion in the first place. You do reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 03:09 PM
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It's a good question that forces people to reconcile with their double standards if they have one. I'm for the idea that it isn't the WORST thing to embellish details about you in order to get a date, whether it is lying about your height and weight, but also I support the other person walking away if they decide this isn't what they were looking for. I understand there is a lot of nuance here that can turn things sour, like fear of dealing with the confrontation of rejecting someone in front of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:57 PM
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Nice attempt at framing it in a way to make me sound unreasonable, but I am not calling you a misandrist because of your take. The overall tone and diction of your post indicate you aren't looking to have a reasonable discussion, and you have no interest in empathizing with the other side. You just want to try to dunk on men because you have a deep contempt for them that you should probably work on. There is no reason to entertain anyone who is approaching these discussions in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:49 PM
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There's no reason to engage with this misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:04 AM
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Love is a secondary trait needed for a relationship to work. You can love someone but lose interest in a relationship when expectations aren't met. The idea of a man not loving a woman because he treats her differently is like saying a woman doesn't love a man anymore because he became lazy and lost his job. No, she has expectations, and she will prioritize her own needs over blind loyalty, as I would expect her too. Sex is about 10% of a good relationship and 90% of a bad relationship. Another …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:19 PM
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I disagree. Assholes trying to mask as nice people cannot do it for long, and if you are really paying attention, the signs are there. It's no one's fault but your own if you let things like "vibes", "feelings", and other things that influence your emotions get the better of your judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:00 PM
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Because the guys who sincerely think that are absolute idiots. Sexual experience doesn't automatically diminish a woman's character. Usually, the real red flag is excessive sex with multiple people (as in unreasonably high bodycounts) because it shows clear signs of an addiction. This can occur to both men and women and at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:16 PM
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Yes, but the accumulation of sexual experiences usually changes someone in a better way, so as long as the person with sexual experience adapts when they get out of college, they're usually fine That's why incels stay incels at 30 or older, regardless of how much they improve, the stigma of them having little sexual experience plagues them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:24 AM
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Having to wait for sex from a girl who is willing to give it out more easily to people she is hooking up with is like buying a product at a mark up while everyone else can buy it for cheaper. Inb4 someone's bothered at the analogy equating women to products. It's a metaphor. If there is a genuine connection going between a man and a woman, when sex occurs is not going to influence it. Withholding intimacy for the "relationship" guy incentivizes guys to try tovbecome fuckboys in order to get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:41 PM
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True, but I think a man can analyze these 4 qualities separately and come to the conclusion this isn't what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:20 AM
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Historically speaking, male spaces have a tendency to go towards a dangerous direction, usually a call to action of some sorts. It's why they get so heavily scrutinized. It's understandable why things are like that, but it doesn't change the issue that men don't have a place to put their very specific, masculine emotions, one where they are being guided to understanding their emotions and learn how to handle and cope with it without blaming women or the world. Until a male space is created that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:20 AM
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Don't forget clearly bad personality. Probably can be categorized by reason 3, but I feel they are worth separating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:11 AM
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Usually, the women who think 5'10" is short are the ones who don't understand how numerical height translates IRL. Most girls, when they meet a guy about 5'9" or taller, they aren't concerned if they are an inch taller or shorter, just that they are tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:03 AM
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Does it really matter, though? The whole point of this sub is for both genders to get an understanding and stop assuming the grass is greener on the other side. Women struggle in unique ways, and their struggles are valid and worth talking about. The same goes for men. We don't need to fight tooth and nail about specific differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:13 AM
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Why did you have such a bone to pick about his comment lol His boundaries and rationalizations towards how he treats the people he meets in the future are for him to define, not for you to lash out against.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:34 AM
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It's actually true. An insane amount of autistic people go to these Redpill or Blackpill forums for reference and elaboration. The problem is that most people use that realization as a reason to dismiss or disregard the movements rather than taking the time to elaborate further to a confused autistic person. Autistic people pretty much need an incredibly complex blueprint of how everything works before they feel comfortable engaging in anything. They want to see every side of the elephant before…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:54 PM
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That doesn't stop a remarkable number of women from strategizing how to meet a rich man. Look at r/femaledatingstrategy or r/diabla (if your response is that those are just toxic women, I can say the same about Redpill forums.) More often than not, women will not consider a man a sexual or romantic candidate unless he makes equal or higher income. In general, women are much less likely to consider a man sexually or romantically if he doesn't have most of his shit together or doesn't add a strong…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:41 PM
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That has nothing to do with the point. The point is that women have a fall back when they aren't exceptional, men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:27 PM
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"Every woman" is disingenuous. There are plenty of women who don't regret trusting a man to lead. They just aren't making noise on the internet complaining. This doesn't change that for men, being exceptional is mandatory and for women, it is elective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:24 PM
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No one ever considers how constant rejection can mess with someone's self-esteem. They also don't try to understand it, either. They immediately go with "rejection is a part of life, and you have an individual responsibility to manage your emotions and move on." While there is some truth to that statement, it is basically the dating equivalent of 'pick yourself up by your boot straps'. It basically leaves little room for empathy. The thing is, there is a difference between experiencing decent am…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:37 PM
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Point flew over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:26 PM
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It's abstract to explain, but these lonely men usually open up about their struggles and feelings, and people usually respond with either criticism or sometimes just mockery. It's rare for anyone to empathize with lonely men. It's almost like there is a universal understanding that if a man is lonely, there is something inherently wrong about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:24 PM
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Yes, people grow out of their toxic behavior from teens to adults (usually), but that doesn't take away the pain that was caused by inconsiderate teenagers, and how it affects someone's self esteem. "Get over it." is far too insensitive a take, and if you aren't going to consider the man's feelings about his experience, why should he care about the people who mistreated him, or anyone trying to help him see reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:28 PM
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People settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:27 AM
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Your tone indicates there is something inherently wrong with a man desiring to sleep with more than one woman. It's shaming language designed to get men to cooperate with your dating strategy. The truth is, men can pursue whatever lifestyle they want as long as they conduct themselves in a considerate and respectful manner. Deciding not to start a family and pursue casual encounters is not an indication of bad character. The only exception is if they are clearly addicted to sex and fuck any and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:59 PM
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Okay, fair enough, that was a whataboutism on my part. There is more to it than men lying about being single to maximize more women to be intimate with. Some men are very vague about their intentions, and the women they are being intimate with rationalize that things will change if they keep trying to please him. I've even seen women who found out that the guy is seeing other women, stop talking to him for a while, and eventually go back to being intimate with him. It isn't often talked about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:41 PM
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Women date men out of convenience too, while trying to explore other options. This isn't a gendered scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:47 PM
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It's understandable to wait things out after the first few dates, but there is a short time frame before his advice is solid. It doesn't benefit men to wait too long on a lady if sex isn't something to look forward to in the near future. Knowing when to move on is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:52 PM
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It seems there are two types of people: Those who let the vibes flow, feel the situation for what it is, and experience mostly preferable outcomes, and those who feel they were cheated out of their preferred outcome. I feel like those of the latter often get really surgical about controlling variables to achieve the desired outcome. In OP's case, the idea of making a man wait for sex is a strategy meant to influence him to continue pursuing her in hopes the bond they make leads to her preferred …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:47 PM
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"we're perfectly fine staying single." Except that's not true. Just look at FDS. Those are mostly single women and they essentially hate all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:57 PM
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It's usually used for women to signal that they are looking for a man who has the means to provide for traveling expenses. Basically gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:54 PM
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No one talks about how emotionally and mentally taxing it is for the guy to have to constantly "woo" his girl to make her feel loved and less bored, and how women are less likely to feel inclined to offer anything in the relationship because they simply don't care enough about it, or were never held to a standard other than simply existing. It's easy to criticize men for this disconnect, but women aren't bridging the gap much either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:54 PM
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Lmfao no one does anything for others, they do it because they want to do it. Women will never fuck men as some sort of treatment program. The only way men will get the sex they want is if the girl they are willing to have sex with is willing to give them that. That's why male self improvement is the only path for men to get what they want. Style, grooming, fitness, social calibration, financial literacy, competence, and discipline is what men need to get what they want in both life and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:54 PM
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Men's obsession with sex is due to a scarcity mindset. People tend to obsess over what they lack most in life I am willing to bet most men, if it was more available for them to access the sexual catharsis they are looking for, would enjoy it for like a week or two before realizing it's not something they are that interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:49 AM
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Yeah, the whole "men are the logical sex" is one of the biggest gaslighting of the manosphere. Both genders are capable of using reason or reverting to their emotional state. There is too much nuance in how it happens to safely label any gender as either logical or emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:47 AM
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From what I understand, which is a very loose understanding, what makes women attractive is body fat placement. It's why things like breast shape, ass shape, and the hourglass figure are what's mostly valued. For men, it is skeletal structure, which explains why a man's height, jawline, and skeletal frame are what women like in men visually. As for single mothers, to be fair, both sexes would prefer their partner to not have a kid. It's just that people have kids before committing to a lifelong …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:43 AM
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Good point A lot of times, when guys are looking for dating/sex advice, what they really mean is "I am looking for advice on how to convince exceptionally or moderately attractive women to want romance or sex with me", which often is the reason Redpilled takes like "Hit the gym, focus on being ambitious and financially literate" become the usual advice. As for women and non-redpilled men, the advice of "Just be a decent person, groom yourself and have good hygiene, socialize and be friends with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:26 PM
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Yes, because women constantly say toxic shit and get away with it. Cardi B admitted to drugging men when she was a stripper and she is still successful and not de-platformed. Also, he got banned from every social media outlet, and the majority of people are condemning his views. You are dead wrong in the idea that it is socially acceptable for men to say it's okay to own women. Stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:18 AM
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Andrew Tate wasn't socially accepted, and he was banned on all social media. So your challenge is void because you are implying that "training your woman" was socially accepted. It's not, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:07 AM
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People who hate Jordan Peterson are incapable of listening to reason. Save your breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:38 AM
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That's not true. Average men can benefit from having female friends, as long as they aren't seen as the female friend's obvious pet bestie. It signals to other women that you are a trustworthy man. If she is really your friend, she would be willing to help you find other women to involve yourself with. Women as friends can act like a referral program. They just gotta be friends that actually have your interests considered, and not one who is trying to use your friendship as a means for their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:10 PM
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That's a lot of assumptions over one post. How do you know he doesn't try to talk to people in his workplace and social activities? How do you know his "approach" is him being unable to act normal? This is the problem whenever a man vents online: he is always met with critique and an assumption that his behavior is the root cause of his problems. I get that you are trying to help resolve his issue, but I don't understand how men are encouraged to open up more but never met with empathy, just cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:06 PM
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I personally think of it like a ratio: the best outcome is someone who still holds attractive qualities (which everyone can attain, it's not a binary matter of genetics), and you have compatability with. The real issue that most Reddit groups don't give enough credit about is how hard it is to find someone compatible when adult life is so varied for everyone. There are a lot of people who are probably compatible with eachother, we just never have enough time and energy to realize that. So we end…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:02 PM
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I can't be the voice of the Redpill. I take most viewpoints from different groups like a buffet: I take the parts I like and discard the parts I don't like, and make my own plate of perspective. With that out of the way, offering my own observation, I think humans have a tendency to obsess over the unattainable. A symptom of Scarcity Mindset is to be fixated on what you don't have. If you lack money, all you think about is money, if you lack food, all you think about is food. For men, a common i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:47 PM
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Usually the whole point of manosphere talking points is how not to become a Beta (Redpill), or how you are doomed to be designated a Beta (Blackpill). From my observation, people operate differently depending on if they have a Scarcity Mindset, or an Abundance Mindset. Women at a young age naturally have value, since men value youth and fertility, whereas men don't have any value until they prove through utility that they are valuable. This leads to women operating under abundance, and men usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:28 PM
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Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks It's the idea that a woman's sexual willingness in their partner depends on if the man's primary quality is his physical attraction, or his ability to gain resources. The Alpha, the attractive man, gets full sexual access of a woman. The Beta, the resourceful man, gets obligatory sex and excuses as to her not being "in the mood".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:23 PM
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I think men are frustrated about the fluidity of women's parameters when choosing who to sexually involve themselves with. Women are more likely to attach virtue to their standards, which leads to false rationalizations that men often notice. A woman will say she is attracted to a guy for his personality, but she is really more interested in his physical appearance. It's the same when they reject a guy they aren't attracted to: they rationalize that he is a bad person or has bad personality trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:55 PM
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While I can see how you were able to link the two, there is a difference between how guys interpret a woman wanting to spend the rest of their life with them, and lifelong partnership and parenting together. Since the internet has become so integrated in everyone's lives, men now have access to knowing how women operate. While their extrapolations can be extreme and are not always accurate, there are some harsh truths that were able to be found. Men can't trust if a woman wants to be in a lifelo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:05 PM
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For men in this new generation, a woman wanting to spend the rest of their life with them is not a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:22 PM
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Yeah, I caught that, too. The idea that people's words are more important than their actions, regardless of sex, will lead anyone towards emotional pain. There is a time to listen to people's words though, but takes a lot of intelligence and wisdom to know when to listen to what.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:50 PM
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"Regardless of whether it is a good reason or not, it doesn't change the fact..." covered this. I am explaining that the internet and grouping up with men who think alike is the only time they can express their viewpoint without consequences. You can believe that the consequences are justified and any man who has bad viewpoints should feel the punishments for expressing them. They will just fester into their own groups and turn into an echochamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:53 PM
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Yes, men use the internet to let out the emotions they aren't allowed to have anywhere else. And to clarify, it's not that men aren't allowed to have emotions in public. We have evolved as a society to be more understanding about that. What men aren't allowed to have is negative emotions. Imagine the reaction the public would have if an MGTOW man expresses anything he says online, but IRL. It wouldn't go anywhere near his favor, and regardless of whether it's for good reason or not, it doesn't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:51 PM
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It's weird how toxic women spaces are allowed, but men's spaces, if they show even an inkling of toxicity, will get steamrolled.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:48 PM
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Yeah, you aren't alone. My mom still says things like "God will give you a woman one day," and I just agree and go with it despite accepting in my heart that I will most likely be alone until I pass off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:27 PM
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I'm not sure about that one. A lot of women find themselves in the "fuck-only zone" and stay stuck their for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:57 PM
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Not zero. The idea of tall men being more likely to be considered attractive is not binary. It's a strange grey area that no one explains. A tall man with zero other qualities will be disqualified by most women, but strangely, there are some women who are able to be attracted to him solely due to his height and availability. If that same tall man works on his physique and gains social skills, his standing in the dating market will greatly improve, but as we all know, charisma and physique will g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:13 PM
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Exactly. Most people, regardless of gender, can easily find someone to be with, if they are okay with not using their eyes as qualification. The reality is that most people want a little eye candy with their relationship, even if they themselves don't match the same level of sweetness. That being said, I feel for OP's struggle. I just question who do they desire that they hope will see past looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:07 PM
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This paints a really broad picture with many flaws. There are possibly some valid points here, but it loses its validity when it's tied with so many shoe-horned topics. I think the way the economy became so unsustainable and how our money's buying power tanked has made the dating market extremely unfair. Add that women are now in the workforce, and the ability for women to still utilize their sexuality to get men to do things for them makes it difficult for men to feel like they can win in this …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:57 PM
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Like almost every argument and statement ever made, it isn't binary and meant to be a stand-alone, singular objective statement. Citing examples of married men who went psycho and gang members (which I have no idea what that has to do with my last statement) isn't the rebuttal you think it is. All my points were bringing is that usually, a guy who gets laid is more likely to not be erratic and have the obvious goal of trying to charm and entertain women because he doesn't have as much intent in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:31 PM
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Okay, that makes sense. It didn't cross my mind like that. I agree. It's a little unreasonable to prefer someone dependent on you for breadwinning, and comes time for the divorce, they have no means of supporting themselves due to giving their time to supporting the house and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:26 PM
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I'm a bit confused as to what makes the indifference of a woman's career choice in pre-qualification related to the fears of the consequences of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:37 PM
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You can have long-term love without the state getting involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:36 PM
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You bore me by not engaging in the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:29 AM
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You can tell a man is sexually satisfied when his demeanor in public shows no need to qualify to anyone. Usually, the guys who are looking for tail will act in all manners of ways, either by being boisterous or exceptionally humorous because they hope they can attract women with their personality. The man who gets laid is usually very calm and lowkey in the group, and paradoxically, women pick up on that and find him more mysterious and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:43 PM
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It's not bad advice, but it's also not guaranteed. A few things can go wrong with befriending girls and involving yourself in their network: They may assume you are gay. The main girl you are friends with may want to keep you as their friend and gatekeep opportunities for you to drift off and find a girl. They may betray you and paint you a creep if they feel your only purpose is trying to get laid. Granted, a man with good social skills, and one who tries to be a good person is less likely to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:40 PM
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I mean, if you want to see it that way, you are entitled to that. You just aren't entitled to telling people that their preference in desiring their genetic lineage to continue is invalid. No one owes anyone anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:16 PM
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People who want their genetic lineage to continue are valid. It's not wrong to have this perspective. It's strange that people are trying to change your mind about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:14 PM
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"The men who die aren’t carrying the emotional trauma because they are dead." While I am not trying to invalidate women carrying emotional trauma losing their loved ones in war, this sentence is really irritating because it comes off with the implication that dying in war is somehow better. Just... no bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:29 AM
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There is a huge difference between being told you are attractive, and actions that indicate you are attractive to them. We can feel the difference, our intuition is subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:00 PM
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Not everyone is built for solitude. It's a privilege if you can embrace it and not veer off into becoming mentally ill to some capacity. Utilizing alternative means to quell the sexual urge can work, but again not everyone can be emotionally gratified with fulfilling their lust. Hookups, sexworkers, they will never be able to provide emotional catharsis with sex. I don't oppose the idea of just opting out. It's pretty much what I have been doing, I just understand that it's not for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:06 PM
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You do realize there are a lot of fluid ways to coerce someone into compliance? Maybe you aren't pointing a gun at their head, but there is still consequences for people's actions that may compel someone to be more reluctant to do something like not signing a birth certificate or asking for a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:44 PM
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It could go the opposite way: a woman who is opposed to paternal testing seems suspicious as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:41 PM
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Men are more grounded in reality because reality hits them in the face everyday. If an attractive girl shows interest, they'd know something is sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:28 PM
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The way I see it, the 40 year old wife already won her sexual strategy: she has someone to coordinate lifestyles with, and someone who makes her feel safe. Most guys never have a chance to interact with beautiful women until they work their ass off to be considered attractive. Most girls have a great time in their 20's and settle with a good man, so they get the best of both worlds. I am gunna be called a scumbag for this, but I think men who take care of their wives and provide them a safe and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:11 AM
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I'm not sure the men who desire these prettier women care about why they are attracted to them, they just care about the sexual catharsis they'd provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:05 AM
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There are women on Tinder that have a bio that days "only looking for casual"? What's next, MILF's near my city are dying to meet me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:51 PM
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Engaging in "whataboutism" is more emotional and "in your feelings" than anything I have said so far. Nice try to belittle me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:33 PM
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Don't project your experiences on me. My point isn't a gendered point, quit that. We can all win here, it's not one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:11 PM
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Holy crap, THIS Women legit fail to realize that all the manosphere communities they so vehemently oppose, those cultures are so popular because it is the first time in many men's lives that they felt understood. It's the first time someone has directly acknowledged their struggles and offered them practical, actionable solutions. It's very easy to be drawn towards groups like TRP and accidentally absorb bias advice that can be overall detrimental to the common man, but a lot of the advice in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:07 PM
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I'd like to propose the idea that not every identifiable problem needs to have a solution? Is it that wrong for someone to just simply voice their frustrations without having to add mental labor into figuring out ways to resolve it? The reality is not every problem has a solution, and any new solution breeds new problems. Sometimes the best thing we can give to someone about a problem is to simply acknowledge how they feel, and remind them it's going to be okay. At some point in all this arguing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:39 PM
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This is a great answer. Men are conditioned early that women aren't interested in getting to know them personally, so when a woman actually displays any interest in us as humans, we wonder if there is an ulterior motive behind it. Wishful thinking makes us lean towards them flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:28 PM
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This is a wrong assumption. You don't know how men treat eachother outside of your own perspective, so to say they don't compliment and build eachother up is conjecture. Plus, if it is true that women do the same for eachother, it becomes double beneficial for women because they get complimented by both guys and girls. I'm aware at a certain point, the compliments from men became undesirable, but having the knowledge to know people find you sexually attractive does wonders to someone's confidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:24 PM
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Yeah, the idea of men being the gatekeepers of relationship is just male cope to try to feel like there is more balance than there really is. Men gatekeep relationships only if they were able to build up enough value as they got older. Another male cope is men getting better with age and women aging like milk. Both genders lose beauty whem they age, the only reason men are preferred when older is because they are valued more on what they can provide, which takes years of hard work to build. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:57 PM
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Makes a claim Someone asks to substantiate it "If you don't see it I'm not explaining it to you" Literally why even make a claim if you aren't going to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:44 PM
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People searching or finding cat videos is obviously for cheao entertainment. Andrew Tate growing in viewcount indicates people want to listen more to what he says.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:42 PM
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Jfc is it really that big a deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:08 PM
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Yeah, that whole "men get better with age" is just cope for losers guys who wasted their 20's, but there is truth in that men aren't as valued by their looks as much as women are. It's what causes men to cling to the idea that there is still hope that they will be able to have the lifestyle they want if they get wealthy by their 30's, but they forget that there are other factors like looks and charisma to take care of also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:34 PM
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It's a 50-50 thing. A man can agree with a woman for the sake of objective reasoning, but there still exists the man who wants favor from women to the point they are willing to sacrifice their own true feelings to appease others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:53 PM
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I never said that. What I am saying is that women are more likely to be with a man who can provide, but isn't attractive. Men are less likely to be with a woman who is a provider because men can provide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:30 PM
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Yeah, I was only speaking in generalities. There is always exceptions, outliers, etc... Men are usually visual, but past that, what they really want is a woman who makes their life easier. It's why stereotypical things like cooking and cleaning are things men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 03:13 AM
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For the average person, yes, it's almost impossible to survive on one income. Women are able to tap into sex work for money, but it does require dedication and work before they build up enough of a following to generate revenue. It's a privilege that they have that option, but it's unlikely they'll be successful at it. I was mostly talking about guys though, how unless they are a really handsome guy, their looks don't play a factor in their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:54 PM
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People have different preferences. A man who grooms himself is attractive to one girl, but too feminine for the other. Just like a hairy or unkempt guy can be considered rpeferrable or not to different women. I think it would help for men to take care of their appearance, but it wouldn't be enough. The burden of performance for men requires them to have their looks and their abilities at an optimal level, and most men aren't up for the challenge, nor do they feel the prize at the end will be wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:19 PM
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What women find physically attractive in men are very stagnant and difficult for men to achieve, if possible at all, considering height and head hair are determined by genetics. It's not that men don't have a wall, it's that men meet the wall at an extremely early age, and the only way to get past it is to build. Men's only safety net is their ability to provide, because men are less likely to be valued by their looks. In a morbid way, men should feel fortunate of that caveat, because without it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:01 PM
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Yeah, it's copium for men who spent the first 25 years of their lives being losers. Men don't age like wine and women like milk, people in general age like wine or milk depending on how they take care of themselves. A combination of genetics and habits can enhance or diminish someone's attraction level. That being said, the majority of men have a prefence in younger women. Youth is a sign of untainted health, which also parallels with beauty. There is also the argument about fertility, where it …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:51 PM
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Technological advancements has changed nature. Women don't have to be forced into a pregnancy because of birth control and abortions, and social gatherings/online dating makes it more difficult to see the incentive in a committed monogamous relationship. It leads to a belief, whether it is valid or not, that there are tons of options, options that are better and will give you more of what you're looking for. The way I see it, the happiness that came from monogamous relationships back in the day …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:21 PM
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Idealistically, women prefer a relationship, but if a guy ticks the right boxes, she is willing to compromise and sleep with him. A common mistake women make is thinking if they give a guy all of her sexuality, she can move from FWB to exclusive relationship, so there's also that to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:40 PM
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The whole Alpha and Beta terminology is simply archetyping men. Alpha is the term describing a man who stimulates visceral attraction, where as Beta is a term for a man who is resourceful. Sexually attractive men have an abundance of options, so there is less incentive to stay exclusive to one girl (same reason why women have "hoe phases") Resourceful men don't have as many options, so the few girls that would be interested in them, they need to provide some sort of incentive to keep them. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:23 PM
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To be fair, that same stereotyping of a demographic due to past experiences is also seen by women towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:47 PM
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If he is okay with that, sure. I wouldn't be, and I'd bet a lot of men wouldn't be either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:31 PM
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Meh, usually whatever attraction they have for the man they settle for is crumbs compared to the attraction they had for the one that got away. It's not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:29 PM
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I'm referring to sexual acts, not long term loyalty. A man a woman decides to settle with for long term security will never get the sexuality she gave to the man she was attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:04 AM
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Attraction is king. Nothing else truly matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:33 PM
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To be fair, it can always go either way. It's just most people find it hard to appreciate an average person after experiencing an attractive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:47 PM
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Cite sources, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:13 PM
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I'm a little confused at what you are trying to say. An older woman can secure a simp if she wanted to. The guy who a woman settles with will never get her best; she already gave that to the guy or guys she was physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:11 PM
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That's exactly what happened. Give it a few months, her sub-conscious resentment towards R will lead to her being more controlling and demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:07 PM
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I have no idea what your guy friends are smoking, and I don't know if I want some or not. Most guys want the prettiest girl they can get. It's about what they CAN get. If they can find a 10/10 babe and she wants to be with him, great. If he can only pull a 5/10, he'll do it. If he is desperate enough to settle with a 2/10, he will have no choice. The thing is, girls who are attractive literally have no choice but to know they are attractive. They can't so much as walk to get groceries without gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:03 PM
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idk this sounds like wishful thinking. I get what you mean that you can grow to find something attractive that you normally wouldn't have admired, but it's incredibly rare for that to happen, and is usually a very minor thing. Ugly is ugly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:56 PM
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More often than not, the discussions we have about what men and women want speak in generalities, so it's not black and white the preferences of each gender. That being said, what women want in men is more stagnant than what men want. Both genders are valued in their ability to be physically attractive, but past that, what women want is a man with a future. They want him to be ambitious, successful, able to produce results and succeed in the goals he makes and be able to direct things when the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:51 PM
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The ability to find someone better can be displayed on both genders, but I think the chance of a man finding a woman he prefers over his primary os significantly less than vice versa. Most men are fortunate to even have one woman's attention, they'd know better than to risk losing what they have now for someone that might change their mind later. As for the potential of others replying of their anecdotes of men leaving them for a preferred alternative, look up Apex Fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:24 PM
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I can't say much about it, what I do know is that RP communities highly advise for guys to never open the relationship, unless it's only on the man's side while the girl remains monogamous. They advise this because it is rare that, in an open/polyamorous relationship, the man finds a secondary, and extremely easy for the woman to have a secondary or more. It also increases the likelihood that she will find someone she prefers to be with more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:10 PM
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Garbage argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:53 PM
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Patronizing me and guessing my age is not an argument, it's just being condescending to feign superiority. Women's actions have painted a picture for us thoroughly, and we have more analytical privileges than ever before. That alone gives us insight that women don't want guys to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:23 PM
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It takes a lot of work for men to be considered valuable, and it's more in relation to their ability to probide than their looks. Granted, an older man who doesn't take care of his appearance won't garner the interest of younger women, but the reasons younger women prefer older men is no desperation, it's the value they built and lifestyle they can provide. It wouldn't make sense for an older man who took carw of his fitness and finances go be desperate when he's constantly having different youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:49 PM
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The wall has more to do with the concept that women became so accustomed to the standards they had when they were younger and highly desirable, that by the time they reach their 30's, they slowly realize through their recent dating experiences that they aren't able to attract the same guys they usually had when they were younger. Internally they recognize that their time to secure someone is limited. They realize that men who are really attractive have far too many options to want to be locked d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:44 PM
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That's Hypergamy. Attraction doesn't change, priorities do. Women who get older realize they can't lock down a physically attractive man, so they prioritize a resourceful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:38 PM
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Societal norms are there for a reason. Men and women can do whatever they want, but just as much people can choose not to associate with non-conformist people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:27 PM
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I was making an observation, not a criticism. I'm not sure what to think of PPD tbh, I think at the end of the day everyone just views things based of their own experiences, and dating is far too complicated for one statement to be as valid as another.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:14 PM
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Most guys use TRP to simply yell at women for catharsis, or to try to lead them to their viewpoint. It's entirely pointless. All TRP should do for guys is help them maxomize their qualities, and make an informed decision from the new found conscious of female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:46 PM
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From what I've noticed, women assume all men enjoy the same privileges of that of the Apex men, the wealthy, extremely attractive, high status ones They also assume that all men display the same hostility/aggression that they see from low value men, the overweight, the losers, the ones with little to no ambition, etc... It's a bad combination that basically judges men as nothing but entitled assholes who trick women into submission, when the reality is they are extrapolating from two distinctive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:37 PM
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You are making just as many assumptions as I am, so there's no validity in what you are saying either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:25 PM
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Marriage is allowing the Government to meddle in your personal affairs, and we live in a gynocentric society that prioritizes women's needs exponentially more than men's. The numerous amount of stories of men downtrodden after divorce court is a pattern men are adapting from. It's like asking a man to step on a landmine and be happy that he has to keep his leg in place or else he will blow his leg off. It's smarter to not step on that landmine at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:58 PM
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Literally everything you listed as a benefit has nothing to do with marriage, those are things you can do if you are single. To correlate marriage with an upward stream of success is absolutely foolish and self-serving. It's clear that a child is better developed when a paternal and maternal figure are guiding them towards their development, but again it's not related to the reasons men are choosing to opt out of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:55 PM
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I'm not saying they do it for attention, I am saying that is a cry for help. If they need help, they should get it, but that doesn't change the fact that men are dying because of suicide more often. You are only listening to reply, not understand. The fact that men use methods that are much more likely to kill them shows that they KNOW what's the best way to delete themselves. It means that they reached a point where no one can convince them that there is anything good for them, or that they wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:48 PM
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When a man attempts suicide, it's after enduring enough chronic pain where the only thing on their mind is to end it as soon and as efficiently as possible. When a woman attempts suicide, it's usually because of an acute crisis (end of a relationship, loss of a loved one), and they usually use methods that make it possible for emergency services to intervene and save them. Men see no other option, women do it as a cry for help. Your rebuttal actually feeds back to my point that men rarely get wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:19 PM
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Women show absolutely no empathy for the average man, and they have the audacity to call men the sociopaths lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:51 PM
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Women are more likely to grt what they want than men. The suicide rates for men are clear proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:48 PM
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The only way a man can turn the tables and start setting interactions on his terms is to be so undeniably value that people want and need you. Get extremely fit and extremely rich. The average man will never get even a fraction of what they want, and will be gaslit by society and women that what they want is wrong and misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:47 PM
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The idea of TRP and FDS was to strategize how to maximize the most out of relationships/romance/sex for both genders. Bitter people hijacked the groups to vent out their frustrations, people had too much time on their hands and a lack of professional conduct, and it essentially grew into the battle of two tumors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:24 PM
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To the more educated RP enthusiast, this isn't nothing new. I'm more interested in seeing how the near future plays out. The sexual marketplace became globalized due to the internet and social media. One thing we don't account for enough is that being physically attractive isn't enough anymore. Attractive men are limited, and yes they will have a much easier time having sex than a beta male, but the internet essentially opened Pandora's Box for both men and women. What's the point of settling wi…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/22 01:11 PM
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I love seeing people project their dream partner by loudly proclaiming what they want is objectively correct and everyone should follow suit. It tells me everything I need to know about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:02 PM
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You should care what people think about you, it's why we dress nice for interviews/events, why we display social behaviors for respect/attraction. It's about not being dependent on what people think of you. Fine-tune your social skills to leave the best impression in any situation, and continue your life regardless of the reception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:42 AM
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I've been learning that the culmination of an incel, which is really just a nice guy who has finally had enough, or a white-knight who heel-switched, as well as a culmination of a player or asshole: it all has to do with reaching a character milestone due to the daily habits you adopt and the results that come from it. Simply put, guys who try to get pussy and fail repeatedly eventually grow to be bitter, resentful, and slowly start their path to becoming an incel, which eventually leads to hatr…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/22 05:43 PM
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"Women are Wonderful" effect and how learning through a paradigm break induces frustration, indirectly creating incels and black-pilled people. It's in women's best interest to just be honest about being on the same level of morality as "scumbag men" and to stop touting like their standards come from a place of virtue, or that men's standards are inherently evil. Standards are just neutral, everything else is human behavior, whether it is reactive or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:29 AM
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Moving social circles doesn't change the general elements that make women attracted to men. I don't agree with the guy you are replying to entirely, I know women look for traits fair past looks and wealth, but looks and wealth are things that get men through the door to be considered more often than not, which allows them to be more picky about their options. What frustrates men who don't have those qualities is that they aren't willing to settle for the options they do have, because there is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:25 AM
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Can't have an abundance mentality when you aren't farming abundance. It's insane how easily you can tell the difference between someone with an Abundance Mindset, and someone with a Scarcity Mindset.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/22 05:08 PM
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That's a good way of putting it. I think I blur the lines to much between business dealings, which is how I associate dating to be very similar with, and oaths of faith.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/22 11:25 PM
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Yes, let me go to a McDonald's and start volunteering to help out and maybe, just maybe they'll reward or compensate me through the goodness of their heart. Lol nah I get the wisdom behind what you are saying, but if we don't have expectations out of others to hold the end of their bargain, no one will feel the need to return the favor. People will become leeches to you if you let them. The real wisdom is to ensure you always have yourself covered with all your needs being met before you give or…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/22 07:36 PM
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I mean, I don't mind doing simple things to help people, like give advice or buy someone a snack occasionally, but yeah, I am not going to change my life or life quality for someone who isn't going to actively ensure I feel compensated for it.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/22 06:19 PM
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A clear example of the light switch effect, and Briffault's Law. It doesn't matter what you did in the past, what matters is if you meet her current and rapidly-updated criteria, he didn't. He was just a resource up until his usefulness expired. We have to learn from men like him and never do too much for a woman without guaranteeing something in return.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/22 06:03 PM
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Ever since reading the post I’ve noticed how much girls really don’t give a shit about anyone who isn’t their number 1. As someone who has been the simp friend, the unaware man will be astonished and have their self esteem destroyed when they realize how easy it is for a woman to drop everyone they care about to prioritize the attention and needs to their number one.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/22 02:43 PM
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Pretty women live life on Easy Mode. It's nothing new, but it's annoying to see it happen everytime.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 02:17 PM
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As arrogant as it sounds, I practice assuming most people are crayon-sniffing idiots until they prove to me they are capable of complex thought.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/22 07:58 PM
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Your advice needs to be taken down a notch. While I agree masculinity needs to be encouraged for men, we now live in a world that is growing more intolerant towards extremely bold men. Unless you have an acute ability to read women and the context you're in, a lot of men will run with this advice and do something that will get them kicked out of the bar or arrested.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/22 07:41 PM
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Honestly, being able to say what's on your mind, or do what you want without inhibition or fear of how others perceive you (within REASON, don't be an autist) is a superpower that will take you far with many aspects of life. Taking rejection with confidence and being un-phased is a good way of signaling social dominance.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/22 07:35 PM
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Isn't those two sentences counterintuitive? You said being better than the majority won't get you laid, but the best strategy is to max out one quality, which indirectly sounds like... Being better than the majority.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/21 04:05 AM
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My current supervisor is a female who is more mature and pragmatic. So far she has continued to uphold her expectations out of us without being unreasonable. She was also extremely considerate the one time I called in due to migraine issues, it was almost maternal, which isn't something I'd expect out of a male boss. As a foil, the lady I work with is insecure, cannot allow a moment of silence while we work in the office, and is constantly fishing for compliments. Her friend, who supervises anot…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/21 03:27 AM
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I'd say take the validation of knowing she wanted you more than her BF, remember what TRP isabout, and keep up the good work. Your chances of getting what you want in the romantic or sexual side of things are evwr increasing.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/21 04:40 PM
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Um, I think the idea behind "Chase money, not women" is that if you obsess over women and how to get them, you waste time and develop addictions that continue to spiral you towards a bad life quality. Focusing on what you can do to make money isn't about becoming a multi-millionaire, just about developing some sort of skill and financial literacy to improve your quality of life. You don't need to go the full mile on hustle culture, just take some of the good of it's teachings.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/21 10:50 PM
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Man, this shit was tailored to be exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you for this post, I gotta keep trying. I am not happy with where I am at, but I am happy I am not where I used to be.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/21 06:30 AM
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Before I took the Red Pill, I remember how often women and even certain men would try to gas light me into thinking that my desire to get laid by different women was creepy or me being an asshole. I was dumb enough to be influenced by their words and lived miserably for a good part of my 20's. The sooner a man realizes that their innate desire to get laid by multiple women is valid and that they shouldn't let anyone else define what their desires are, the sooner they can start becoming the man t…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/21 04:07 AM
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