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In order to win you actually need to play to win, and if the opposition gets to cheat and lie and abuse the rules to the maximal extent possible and your side keeps playing fair and nice, well, you might as well surrender. If the game is rigged, you create a more fair outcome long-term by equalizing the game by cheating and manipulating as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 02:53 AM
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"Ban those who dare speak out against the holy scripture!" seems to be the real core leftist principle you are advocating for. A woman's right to choose is an inarguable pillar of any left-wing belief system. What has happened with RvW is a disgrace that has taken American culture closer to fascism than it has been since people like the KKK felt comfortable operatong in only slightly hushed whispers. What the fuck kind of insanity am I reading
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 02:48 AM
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In a sane society both sides take part of the responsibility, one side to cause no discomfort and the other to not make a big deal out of meaningless inconveniences or blow up the smallest missteps into huge dramatic conflicts. And of course, when something of any importance is at stake "discomfort" stops being a relevant consideration. In our society women get to abuse other people's sympathy unpunished forever and ever and ever. They get to drive men mentally-ill with all their neurotic, immat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 02:54 PM
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All the evolution deniers and luncatics had to go somewhere after religion's corpse started rotting away and the right lost more and more ground. And no idea, not even equality or fairness, survives contact with the average citizen uncorrupted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/24 10:02 AM
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Always helps to visualise the rest of history and remind yourself that the majority of people at some point agreed with anything from human sacrifice to genocide, from slavery to genital mutilation for children. But the instinct to go along remains, probably at least in part for evolutionary reasons. Going against the group consensus is probably a fairly effective way to drive your fertility towards 0.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 01:44 PM
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The big problem is they think they know, both what is right and where you are coming from. If they have no personal relationship with you, there is little chance they will invest the effort to listen long enough to find out who you are and what you have to say. Even more so if you interact with multiple people at a time. Everyone will want to signal to their friends or peers that they don't agree with whatever unpopular thing you are proposing and it will turn into a chain reaction where they al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 01:37 PM
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The only time Feminism cares about the struggles of men is when it wants to present something women are involved in as either not real, not relevant, as the result of men's own actions or at least in no way a resposibility of women as a collective. Male body standards are presented purely as something society or social media are responsible for, but never women. Men being send to war is the result of the descisions of male politicans and therefore ... not unfair? Not worth changing? The fault of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 01:28 PM
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Your fixation on one life boat Kek
/r/MensRights07/01/24 09:30 PM
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If you have gotten all men on board, you have mostly solved male loneliness, as we are at that point already connected / united by a cause.
/r/MensRights07/01/24 03:36 PM
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Except that without the absolute numbers you can't even begin to speculate what happened. Once you see the small number of female passengers and realize they all fit into a single ship, you might start to wonder if maybe none of the women survived because the life boat most of them likely shared didn't make it. In addition, the higher the male to female ratio, the less suprising that no females survived. On the other hand, simply putting a 100% female fatality rate against a 70% male fatality ra…
/r/MensRights07/01/24 03:32 PM
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You can even hate women in general without hating any individual woman. I have long since hated humans in general, which always included women as a group, and what I have learned, seen and experienced in recent years has only made the feeling more intense. Yet, I can talk to and laugh and interact with women in my everyday life. There is no contradication. It's how these things are supposed to work, judge the group and the individual separately. And if you find one or both worthy of hate, hate t…
/r/MensRights07/01/24 01:13 PM
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It seems you intentionally misunderstand when the meaning is obvious. The percentages alone present a distorted picture of reality, and since you have to use the absolute values to calculte the %'s the people using these percentages obviously have to know that, so it's an intentional distortion as well.
/r/MensRights07/01/24 12:55 PM
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Mental health campaign doesn't help you if your main issue is being born into the low SMV sex. We use pills to keep the animals we torture to produce cheap meat alive long enough to grow to size, lets extend that to humans and keep those in unbearably unhappy situations alive with pills and payed friend talking sessions so we don't have to try offering them lifes worth living.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/24 12:48 PM
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If you were purely self-interested you would recognize that, no matter if you actually suffered any meaningful harm from what happened or not, as long as you publicly presented yourself as a traumatised victim you would stand to gain a bit more of the resource called other people's sympathy. You might try it once, it might work out great, you would learn to always react as neuroticly as possible, to dramatize and catastrophize any small discomfort or inconvenience to the maximum of your abilitie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 01:51 AM
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Common misunderstanding. "Men should open up about their problems and show more emotion so we can hurt and humiliate them more easily" is what they mean to say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 12:47 AM
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How can men let themselves be mentally hurt and humiliated this much and still not feel any desire to fight back. How can you just let them demonize basic aspects of your human nature and take it lying down, like a beaten dog? How could anyone claim to be motivated by a desire for fairness and equality when the central question on your mind is "Do I have to go along with this to be seen as desirable to my abusers?". It fills me with absolute hopelessness to see how spineless you are. You're not …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 05:34 PM
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Despite never getting to live in the corresponding time period I still miss the days when "left-wing" didn't mean "in complete and utter denial about the primary origin of human nature and behavior".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/23 12:09 PM
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Ofc this is a somewhat sympathetic interpretation. The less kind view of this is that they are driven by pure selfinterest and don't care at all for how their dishonesty affects others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 01:18 PM
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Women evolved to compete in the social arena like men evolved to fight in the physical. You wouldn't get into the striking range of a stranger you just met (well, now we would, but not before we build civilisation and domesticated ourselfs, and you still might hesitate to do so if you are out alone at night in a less respectable part of town), in the same way woman are always playing the PR game, even during surveys. I'm not even sure they are doing it conciously, it might simply be an innate in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 05:09 PM
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Feminism = female group interest. It's in your group's interest to present the interests of your group as fair and just. It actually lives up perfectly to it's name, just not to the false PR image popularized around it. You think people as a whole are more selfish or selfless? Probably selfish, right? Well, did most of the women joining feminism as a movement or adopting it as an ideology do so for selfless or selfish reasons?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 07:10 AM
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Part of the test / unspoken expectation men are subjected to is knowing what women really want while they polish their image by telling self-flattering lies. Autists who naively take them by their word and struggle to see what's really playing out behind all the social games and pretense end up falling flat on their face over and over again. It takes a certain kind of self-confidence and decisiveness to conciously conclude that "no, that's all a bunch of BS, I should ignore what is being told to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 07:02 AM
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Being extra careful in an attempt to appease people who have no incentive to present you in a fair light anyways does not work. All it leads to is you looking weak, starting from a defensive position and accepting large parts of the opposition's frame for free right from the get-go. "Looking bad" simply is par for the course when you are actually challenging systemic discrimination instead of just pretending to do so. When you are truly swimming against the tide you will always be disliked and g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 06:48 AM
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You talk about projecting, but pretend like just because some men are socially successful and some women experience lonelyness there can't be obvious and massive differences in the distribution of these things. Not to mention, just because a man and a woman have a fullfilled sex / social life doesn't mean that their experiences are the same. Right now, in the modern world, in the younger generations, it are mostly men who make up the most lonely and desperate people. Prisoners go insane after we…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 06:44 PM
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No, it can simply be the range between the different age groups. The line you were responding to reads 25-50% of marriages are sexless, with the number increasing in younger couples. You have no context and didn't ask for any. You ignored all the other stats. You ignored the actual overarching point being made. You didn't ask "Where did you get these numbers from" so you could check for yourself where they came from. You took one look and came to a conclusion. The conclusion that there was no in…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:19 PM
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"I don't like it so I will ask myself 'Do I have to believe it?', find some reason, any reason, to justify why I indeed do not have to and ignore it." Yeah, that is how people usually opperate. Want to believe something -> Can I believe it? Don't want to -> Do I have to believe it? Very nice illustration, thanks a lot
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:01 PM
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How do people miss the obvious angle that old data does not predict the results for the next generation. Stats related to this have changed by 300-400% in just 10 years, but you want to do a linear extraprolation based on old data into the next 50+ years. Not to mention, finding someone who is desperate to settle down with you when they are old and have their best years behind them is basically just you paying a hooker to pretend to be your girlfriend but with extra steps.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:59 PM
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Except that most people care a lot when women are hurt, as seen for example in the "#BringOurGirlsBack" campaign, where the kidnapping of 300 girls resulted in many of the biggest intelligence agency from rivaling countries cooperating to get these girls back to safety. Before and after that event thousands of boys had and would be kidnapped and killed, and before and after no one gave a shit. Footage of some soldiers being tortured or killed does not have the same emotional impact as as footage…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:55 PM
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No they can't. Read some FtM transgender experiences from women who actually manage to pass as men after their transition. Many of them regret transitioning not because they necessarily hate their new body, but because they hate how they are treated because of it. Women have no frame of reference for what it's like to be judged as completly worthless and undesirable since birth. The second they hit puberty they they question is no longer about "am I desirable" but about "how attractive a partner…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:49 PM
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Greater male variance hypothesis. Women have a more narrow trade distribution, men were the ones having to take risks, in action but also in the variance of their genome. As a man you need to stand out, a few win big most get between nothing and barely anything, so you need to gamble on high variation in the hopes of hitting it big.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:08 PM
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Seems like that obviously will depend on the details 100% of the time. But most likely no, STDs, her behavior will have been at least partially genetic so those genes will burden our children, if things go badly during pregnancy and she has a relapse who knows how much misery it could cause them from the moment of their birth, I might get dragged into illegal shit or come into contact with violent criminals, she might use and abuse me to finance her addiction or solve her personal troubles befor…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:04 PM
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Think of it like this: Women have a monopoly on the highly desirable trade good "sexual access to women". They -> don't want other women to behave like sluts, which is why they are the ones doing the majority of the slut shaming online. At least other women shouldn't do so for free, because that drops the average value of their sexuality downwards, making them all less wealthy. -> don't want sexbots to exist because that too lowers their sexual wealth (which can be traded in for any other kind o…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 04:52 PM
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Don't start arguing in bed, if you are about to have your first sexual experience you obviously go along unless you are certain that you can easily get more whenever you want. In the long run it would probably increase the chances of it not working out between us, not so much just because of oral sex itself, but because of the sense of distance it creates when you suspect that your partner does not fully accept your body / find it desirable / is too neurotic to let herself go during sex / isn't …
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 04:36 PM
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If you can't see the difference in availability between sperms and eggs I think we might be struggling to communicate across a very large IQ gap.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:59 PM
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No, that is viewing it from an evolutionary perspective. It's not a moral judgement, it's describing the reality of human biology. If you can't mentally decouple descriptive from prescriptive claims, I don't think I can make you see what I am talking about.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 12:55 PM
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Nice. Could you upload it somewhere?
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 12:10 PM
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They have the more valuable because more rare sex cells. That is the root cause. Everything else ultimately goes back to sexual dimorphism. Culture and social norms aren't the cause, they are in large parts symptoms / consequences of evolutionary selection pressures.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 12:01 PM
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So I'm guessing no one did SS it?
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 05:27 AM
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"Bluepillers" includes a large number of people / subgroups. But amongst those that that end up on this sub you should expect a high amount of people who are mematically possessed, looking for someone to bully, looking for someone to feel morally superior to, etc. That's the case in all spaces designated for "debate", which, despite all the rules and despite any effort to keep things civil and try to understand another, still roughly tranlates into "ideological warzone". Not saying people on the…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 02:26 PM
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Depends on the details, but it seems like most of the times this would mean I'm being both used for her pleasure but also denied any affection in return, so every time I went down on her it would be an indirect reminder that "this is all you're good for, this is how far you get, this is as much as you deserve". So I would say no. On second thought, since this would allow me to practice my oral game for a real partner, I would prob say yes until I feel confident in that part, because until then t…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 02:16 PM
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you should include a link to download all the pics in one click with your posts. that way it's easier to spread your stuff
/r/MensRights22/08/23 12:42 AM
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Men unite as part of tribal warfare agaist other groups or in times of crisis. It doesn't work if women as a group are the enemy because men are closer to women than they are to other men. The competition for women also occurs between each individual group member against all others. The more men refuse to betray the group for female attention, the higher the pay off for the men that do. It requires strict loyality enforcement mechanisms like kicking uncooperative men out of the tribe or bashing …
/r/MensRights17/08/23 11:21 AM
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combination of them finding most of men physcially repulsive and a lifetime of brainwashing by the american brand of modern insanity
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:23 AM
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Evolution. Men aren't a coherent interest group because they have an innate bias towards the other sex, while women are inherently more collectivist. Women hold together while men join their side against other men in the hope of getting some. In a way, modernity is a battle of group interests and you don't want to be on the team made mostly out of individualists.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:20 AM
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we do need to publicly argue against these people, but yeah, the target we are trying to convince is the audience, not these women and male feminists
/r/MensRights15/08/23 12:47 PM
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Feels kind of scary that people on here are still discussing something that was talked to death like what... a decade ago? At some point you would hope some of the basics have spread enough for these things to be common knowledge... guess you can take it as a sign that more new people are coming in, if you want to be optimistic about it
/r/MensRights15/08/23 10:07 AM
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Every form of counter reaction or criticism will be painted as an increase in extermism and used as a justification for pushing even more aggressively in the same old direction. These peolpe are way too deep to switch directions now, if you want change, you will have to unite enough political capital to force it on them, they will not be convinced to give it to you out of the goodness of their heart
/r/MensRights15/08/23 10:02 AM
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she added that second part after she got backlash, probably heavily bending the truth if not completly made up to save face
/r/MensRights15/08/23 09:55 AM
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This is when I regret never having ordered my folders in any way. I know I have more than one meta analysis showing the exact opposite of at least some of the claims you made. But I have to go in about an hour so I won't serach for it until I get back home, if I'm still in the mood far that then. But nah, I have seen countrary evidence for at least 3 of the claims you made and if I had some time it might just be enough to look at your sources to see where the problem lies.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 09:51 AM
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Through the cheap high of unearned moral superiority. Or just through sheer ignorance. Honestly not the worst cope. "Not knowing" seems rather tempting an option once you get a glimpse at how horrible the world is in general.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 03:21 AM
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Sure, depending on what you accept as a happy ending. I could imagine for example: - A story over the course of which a large scale eugenics program is established, which in the long term leads to a world filled with smart, beautiful, mentaly stable, physcially healthy and innately altruistic people. If genetics determine a persons life, just have humanity take control of the gene pool and have everyone be born with optimized bodies and minds. - A story about a group of male teens getting to kno…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 01:29 AM
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sure, I suspect there might be some more stuff like this on japanese / eastern sites because theri dating market has been fked for longer and it seems like there exists a stronger, more direct animosity between both sexes over there. One more film that came to mind was "We Need to Talk about Kevin", though the focus of the story is once again somewhere else till you get towards the very end.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 01:37 PM
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as more and more men have less and less sex, that trade off will start seeming less and less disagreeable to them
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:58 PM
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Yeah, but you can either fight the winning team or try to join them. If this was a video game and you cared about winning, the first thing you would do is look up the dominant groups winning strategy and copy that to have a solid baseline to work with. Men seem to be taking these games more seriously than real life politics. Also, men aren't obsolete or close to it, men are the ones with a positive net fiscal impact, men are the ones disproportionately doing the basic jobs keeping societies infr…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:48 PM
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because leftist collectivism is how you pushed your own group interests through and because it favors your own group to an absurd degree... you scorn collectivisation that is not to your own benefit, not collectivisation in general. I don't think I'm gonna invest any more time into this. this is below me.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:39 PM
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i don't think I wanna talk across a gap in basic understanding of reality that is this huge
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:36 PM
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All successful interest groups have people amongst them behaving abominably. Right now there are subs on this very site that have driven people to suicide by doxxing them more than once, there are female only spaces where they post the most vile & disparaging things about men on the regular. Behaving like that is allowed when you are on the winning side. If you wanted to you could take any political or ideological group, look for their members or associates with the worst PR and prtend like ever…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:33 PM
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yep, it gets rather depressing as it goes on but it's still and amazing read if you find something good I would be interested in hearing about it, I'm also looking for fiction that makes these type of male struggles their focus without preaching bluepilled nonsense
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:02 PM
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You have yet to engage with a single argument i made. You aren't stopping now because of something I said, you didn't start engaging with what I said at any point. All you have is baseless blaming and shaming. You are completly unwilling to even face what you just said 2 posts ago. I have no interest in pursuing this any further, anyhow. I think you have made yourself look bad enough that no impartial observer could possibly take your side, so there would be nothing in it for me to continue.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:56 AM
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So wanting others to sympathise with your problems is a big nono? Does this apply to your own problems as well? Do you not want others to understand and relate to the problems and pain you yourself are affected by or is that just a standart other men should be beholden to? Also, does that standart apply to women as well? Like, would it be pathetic for women as a group to do something with the aim of getting sympathy from others? The real easy and cowardly thing is to keep blaming men and never s…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:53 AM
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It's nice that people feel safe enough on here to display their wretched misandry so openly, it would otherwise be quite hard to prove something so intangible. You have still not answered the other questions? Is begging the same as collective action to you? And how mad does the thought of men as a group unapologetically standing up for their own interests make you exactly?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:39 AM
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about what i expected
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:35 AM
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Is that supposed to be an own? To demand something you deserve and pressure others to give it to you through collective action is the same as begging in your eyes? Obviously you just want ment to not get any symapthy either way, so the details of how it happens must seem fairly irrelevant to you.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:27 AM
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I explained what I percieved as a manipulation. You did not acknowledge that women in any way could be responsible for the anger and verbal abuse they are getting from men and instead pushed all the responsibility away onto the shoulders of society / "social stigma". Men hate because they feel they have been lied to their entire life by women who only care about perserving their own reputation and their own sex's group interests. Nobody blamed you in paticular, you once again display an unwillin…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:23 AM
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information and ideas spread faster now than in the past and most men have grown up watching women demand fair treatment and equal outcomes in every domain of life. The blueprints for what to do are already there, because all that is required is to expand progressive ideology by adding "is born as a dirt poor beggar in terms of sexual market value" as a form of innate, arbitrary and unfair disadvantage and being born pretty / with high SMV as a privilege. Expand the list of relevant inequalities…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:09 AM
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Uniting to stand up for your own interests as a group is the opposite of begging for sympathy or victimhood. It seems you are unable to consider the possibility that men might in some way be negatively affected by societal structure, the consequences of technological progress or innate female nature without losing control of your own emotions. You also seem eager to shame the men that have no problem accepting these ideas and who want to improve men's lot in life as a collective. I have no inter…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 08:02 AM
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That would mean that 80% of men would have an interest in collectivising and pressuring society to offer them support in one form or another. Your prediction seems like it makes it more instead of less likely that men will unite, because you predict most of them soon having a reason to seek ways to change society for their own benefit.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 07:54 AM
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kk I will go looking, thanks for the tip
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 07:27 AM
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Most men come to hate the life modernity is burdening them with and resent women for lying about female nature for reputational gain. And for deeming them unworthy of love and affection, of course. 'Social stigma' has little to do with it. That once again places all the responsibility away from women themselfs and on the shoulders of society / men. Your manipulation is transparent. People lash out after being hurt and feeling mistreated. You blame the victim for their anger. They are only allowe…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 07:23 AM
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Yeah, this seems to be a pattern. I guess it makes sense evolutionarily, if you're a woman you have limited chances to have useful children that spread their/your genes further. It might be that in times past abandoning the less promising offspring to focus all your recources into the more promising ones was simply the better strategy.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 07:04 AM
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Blue eyes litterally decended from a single individual with the mutation and offered no significant survival advantage, instead they spread because they were deemed more physically attractive. You are painfully ignorant and are trying to play moral police for a cheap power high. Every Hollywood casting director knows what you pretend to be impossible. Just photoshopping peoples eye colors around and looking without prejudice is enough to see how wrong you are, but you already know what the allow…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:27 AM
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Well, what do I look for to find these?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:18 AM
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I can barely read what you are typing. There is enough good BP content out there, though it is drowned out by an ocean of medicore shit and gets shadowbanned / deprioritized sooner or later, so it will usually not show up in anyones recommended. It spreads more by word of mouth. Really though, high quality content is not why people join interest groups. Especially not men, who usually find it hard to sympathise with each other until they themselfs are in need of sympathy. Content follows popular…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:15 AM
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Thank you, I'll give it a try.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:04 AM
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"Goodnight Punpun" has some elements spinkled throughout. Since you mentioned "Dice", there is another manhwa called "Lookism". It starts of with a heavy focus on looks-related problems, though it gets away from that after like 100 or 200 chapters and only infrequently returns to the topic. Also bluepilled in parts. "Homunculus" (Hideo Yamamoto), "Welcome to the NHK" if you haven't seen/read it yet, "Onani Master Kurosawa" though that one is basically about a man escaping isolation and reintegra…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:01 AM
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Thank you. I think cooperating this indiscriminately does not come naturally to men for obvious evolutionary reasons. We will need to apply concious effort to make a male-centered interest group work. Also, I like your thread. It's easy to feel left out in the cold when people assume mental dating handicaps to be irrelevant or minor in comparison to asthetic ones. Autists often get the full dose of mobbing / isolation at school, livelong friendlessness and lonelyness and no love / affection / in…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:40 AM
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After talking to as many normies as I could about these topics, almost everyone outside of academia is willing to entertain BP insights around dating and female attraction, as long as you present sourced statistics, stay calm and unemotional and remain conservative in how you interpret the evidence you have. Many normies realize that they have been missing pieces of the puzzle the second they see them in front of their eyes. I'm not American, so that might heavily affect my results and I'm a som…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:25 AM
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While I have seen stats suggesting the same, I think your way of presenting it fosters infighting over who really is the most disadvantaged, which is both something men are prone to (competing over their rank on the hierachy) as well as something that kills any sense of unity or comradery. Every other man who thinks himself unappealing to women is one more men on your side in any societal or political discourse. Instead of putting the bar as high as you can while you yourself still pass, put it …
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:11 AM
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Look like the social norms of old were in place for a reason other than the religious being prude fools.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:05 AM
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I have never read Rollo and I have very little sympathy for redpillers. Female innate nature is obvious and observable if you care to look without prejudice. Male nature includes a higher propensity for any kind of physcial violence. Why should it be okay to look and talk about the darker sides of men but not of women? Why would a evoltuionary process revolving around competition for recources result in one sex having nothing but prosocial, unquestionably moral tendencies? How could that even ha…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:58 AM
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Have you provided one ounce of evidence? Is it only a standart applied to your opposition? What did you provide except your "opinion"? Once again, cheap manipulation. You get to claim w/e you want because it's the socially acceptable narritive. Everyone else will have to make their case and pray you deem their evidence sufficient. I have no interest to engage as a defandant before a judge.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:47 AM
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Ofc i didnt mean you, you are ideologically possessed and obviously desperate for some sense of superiority, or just looking for someone who society allows you to bully to satisfy your sadistic tendencies. Honestly don't care. You already have proven yourself incapable of reasonable exchange and happy to use w/e tactic suits you in the moment for some cheap own. I have no interest in your opinion. I was talking about the more beaten down, self-hating kind of male feminists.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:41 AM
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An easy excuse commonly repeated. Also puts all the blame on male shoulders and leaves all the power in your hands. When you decide men are well behaved enough, by w/e arbitrary you feel like applying, then and only then are we deserving of support? No, thanks. It was never difficult for me to sympathise with the downtrodden and their expressions of anger or frustration. Women who empathise with us don't pretend to first need to control all men everywhere to perfectly conform to their sensibilit…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:37 AM
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Blackpill videos get millions of views on tiktok. Ideas spread slowly, and normies are even slower to adapt. But the way things are now is a few decades old at most, one decade if you count from the release of tinder. This has not proven itself as a stable equilibrium. There is a sense of hopelessness and defeatism around male online circles but I think these men mistake "being ahead of the curve" with "being a unique outlier". The more men are affected, the more men will start to care and try t…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 03:40 AM
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no asshole for your face
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 03:17 AM
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Women are just as stupid when driven by hornyness as men, they just have higher standarts for what kind of men they get horny for. Cameron Herrin is a good example. A criminal who killed a mother and her child but had women online petitioning to let him go free because... he was really hot. From what I have seen, women do indeed seem even dumber than men in that regard. Women are just as horny, just not as often / as easily as men.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:17 AM
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Empathy is a poor replacement for fair treatment and societal support. More and more men are noticing that they are inherently disadvantaged / poor beggars on the dating/sex market and that their society, which otherwise is so interested in equality and equity couldn't care less if they all end up hanging themselfs. And that's a common desire amongst these men, because many of them judge a life without any love, affection, intimacy or romance not worth living. The ideas are what matters, if your…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:05 AM
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Kek, what a meme response, wonder how much longer men will submit to low effort shaming tactics like this. Countless stats and studies about what actually predicts female attraction and the lived experience of the men themselfs prove to them that what they think is irrelevant to their situation, it is their situation that has lead to their way of thinking, which is to say: They had to actually learn about dating dynamics, female attraction and men's group interests because they were finding them…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:56 AM
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A single compliment motivates me to keep up a healthy lifestyle for an entire week. Common wisdom is once again the direct opposite of true, it's easier and more rewarding to do face difficult challenges in order to gain other people's approval rather than doing them for your own benefit. You can notice the same thing with animals. Keeping the house clean for my own comfort? Impossible. Keeping it clean so the dog stays happy and healthy? Easy, a never-ending stream of motivation flowing through…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:47 AM
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Your own interests obviously overlap with your group's interests. Women as a group are innately advantaged in a conflict of collectives, as men and women both have innate pro-female biases. You never had to pursue your interests as a member of your sex because your sex has won the battle of group interests, in large part because nature itself was on your side from the moment you were born with the higher value reproductive cells. Obviously, the side that is dominant can afford to scorn any attem…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:25 AM
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No, I'm simply recognizing a pattern in how women behave naturally and how they use human's innate pro-female bias to get everyone to accept their role as victims, even in interaction in which they are the perpetrator / dominant party, all the while never admitting their own faults and advantages unprompted. There is no projection, only frustration at the frequency and shamelessness of this kind of manipulation. Not to mention, I also made some points in response to your response. My 'rant' wasn…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:17 AM
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Because sex group interests are at odds. You pursue your own group interests but pretend that there is no conflict, which allows you to shame and gaslight men who want their sex to do the same.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:38 AM
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How does it feel to never ever allow for even the possiblity that your sex could just be doing something wrong because they have flaws instead of because you are obviously the victim and scared and disadvantaged and really only trying to defend yourselfs? Most women don't want high responsibility + high stress + high workload positions, esp not when they get older. They quit before reaching the highest positions because they already make enough money at that point and don't care to keep on worki…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:35 AM
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wait, weren't you the guy spamming one personal attack after another in my thread xD? You narcassists really have no shame, w/e is useful in the moment huh?
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:08 AM
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The sex more evolved for 'combat' in the social arena instead of the physcial one is more sensitive to threats of relation aggression.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:07 AM
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maybe everything is always men's fault? "yep, bingo"
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:05 AM
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Everyone in this situation was getting sympathy and help because they are in the group therapy session. There’s no privilege to be had an that setting because everyone is on equal footing in terms of vulnerability. No one said that the boy wasn’t struggling as well, compared her suffering to his, or told him to leave so in my mind, there’s no mistreatment. No. He was an actual autist sturggling with leaving the house, watching a girl he knew was partying each weekend fake her illness for sympath…
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 06:33 PM
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maybe you are making strong assumptions on events that you have never seen the context of because the possiblity that a boy being mistreated and a girl being privileged to sympathy because of their respective sex is against the view of the world you are willing to entertain / is in your interest to allow. i have seen the countless screenshots he took in his obsession, her social life was vibrant on a regular basis and in a variety of ways. ofc its the boys fault, how dare he question the obvious…
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 01:48 PM
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you can decide to not give sympathy to whomever you want and others get to judge you as an amoral person for your choices. that is indeed how this works. you have yet to make an actual argument, every statement you make is supposed to be taken as fact without any evidence required... waste of time to engage with you, but I do not really wish to give someone so morally repulsive the last word
/r/AllPillDebate23/07/23 08:12 PM
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This comment is remarkably evil and dishonest. Even in court, things like these are taking into consideration as mildening circumstances. But you are openly advocating to abandon mentally ill, sucidial men because they aren't all nice to you. You are morally repulsive beyond believe and it sickens me that our society has coddled you so much that you feel comfortable expressing something so vile publicly without any fear or shame.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 04:03 AM
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The joke about women having to hate men because of how horribly violent we are is not only funny because women prefer those men as partners, it's even funnier because it assumes men obviously aren't abused by women at a similar rate. In reality: The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS) is a survey instrument run periodically by the CDC in the U.S. to assess trends in intimate partner violence (IPV). The first national-level study using the NISVS was in 2010 followed by re…
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 03:55 AM
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You are so dellusional, it's hopeless. I already wrote anything I would in response on here and I don't care to repreat myself to someone obviously not the slgihtest bit interested in anything other than complaining about mean words. You get to decide who deserves sympathy and who doesn't? Quite the conflict of interest, when women are the ones deciding which men is being enough of a good boy to be allowed to air his pain. Half the "sexist" comments you can't stomach are stats and studies with r…
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 03:52 AM
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The boy didn't lash out, he noticed an inequality in how he was treated and how someone else was treated. And then he demanded fairness. The girl, as women so often do, was shamelessly exploiting human pro-female bias to siphon recoursess from people in need to feed her own ego. You have not even the slightest interest in how others are suffering, only in pretending as much as possible that you are the victim and deserve as much support as you can grab. ​ Men are abused in realtionships just as …
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 03:40 AM
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I supportet feminism all through out my young adult years. I have had no issue showing sympathy for people in need, nor has it been a big challenge to keep being empathetic when these people were hurt and lashing out. I believed in a general desire to build a society on cooperation, trying to make things work even if we have to make sacrifices for each other. Now, years later, my sex is in dire need of help, there is a form of inequality, an inequality in the access to love, care, affection. Thi…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 10:41 AM
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No, mad rage at the innate unfairness and indifference of the world is the only acceptable reaction. I don't want to find a way to get by in this dogshit system as much as I want to change it. And after millenia of misery, humans are getting closer and closer to the finish line, one way or the other.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 11:13 PM
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The point isn't about MAPS, it's about how if people can be made to overcome their disgust for pedophiles, it seems less likely that the way people feel and think about men is set in stone.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 11:08 PM
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Yeah, this. Evolutionarily it's the same if you get cucked or killed in battle, your genes still don't make it. On the origins of species is almost 200 years old, any day now someone will open the first chapter and our understanding of human nature will be revolutionised
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 10:45 PM
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being around rationlists and utalitarians shapes how you express yourself and I have no interest in masking online, that's enough of a burden irl
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 10:42 PM
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if our behavior on here is judged by how it helps or hurts in trying to maximise attraction between users, does this mean this is a dating sub in your mind?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 10:18 PM
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since we have the stats, this is no longer a viable position to take
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 10:16 PM
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Many of them had therapists for a large portion of their life, but only felt a sense of community for the first time amongst each other. Interacting with 'others' have been a consistent source of pain and abuse, so there is not much desire to move amongst the general population. Don't know if you ever saw the dating app stats about how the way people percieve your personality and looks align? Its pretty much a straight line, an absurdly strong correlation. Being really ugly will make you unlikab…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 10:15 PM
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Maybe I should add, without this perspective of yourself as a victim you lose all your dignity and more.You will feel shame and guilt and you won't be able to face what you are. You won't be able to integrate your experience into your identity without it destroying you from the inside.Once you are allowed to think of yourself as a victim, you can move on. "Well, I got unlucky." Now that it is not your fault, you can feel pride even in little accomplishments and try to live a life worth living. W…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:49 PM
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On a side note, back in the days of reddit tinder social experiments, there were multiple runs where users pretended to be an 65+ aged woman and they all mirrored what you read in the article I posted. I would be very suprised if this is a rare occurance and not the rule.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:45 PM
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Part of the hate, and since you already were empathetic enough to follow me this far maybe you can understand, comes from being gaslight your entire life into percieving your failures as purely your fault. You grow up thinking you are the lowest piece of garbage and have failed at life in the most fundamental way. Just to find out that you were mostly a victim of circumstance. Other victims of unfair circumstances become eligble for societal support or at the very least are treated with empathy …
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:42 PM
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Guess that does ring true. But again, progressives are pushing for the adoptation of "minor attracted people" as victims of circumstance.Criminals as well have many times been excused by the details of their cirumstances. Surely those don't appear innocent to most of the population. Is it really unbelievable that an idea like "the new technology of dating apps created circumstances in which most men had no chance of succeeding, now they need help" could become mainstream?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:34 PM
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I can see where you are coming from, but we have for example a strong evolutionary disgust reaction to insects. I myself was outright insectophobic when young. Yet even then, I would feel bad for killing any of the repulsive critters. It had been taught to me through fiction and culture to put myself in others shoes (though I also was innately high in empathy). We have already overcome many of the evolutionary instincts that held us back from caring for others across group boundaries. Animals, s…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:20 PM
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Consider the stats I posted earlier about incels "Other characteristics of incels.co users from site surveys include: -78% report constantly suffering from depression, anxiety, and stress. -82% have considered suicide -57% report suffering from a medical condition like autism or a physical disability that impairs their normal daily functions." ​ Sometimes people flailing around the loudest are indeed in the most pain.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:14 PM
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They in fact fit the bill for a "marginalized minority" perfectly, except for being male. They are disproportionally -neuroatypical -poor / from poor backgrounds -ethnic -suicidal / depressed / mentally ill. Yet I haven't seen anyone suggesting that structual disadvantages could in any way be relevant. Letting the idea that these men are not alone at fault for their misery stand in the room would give them back some dignity. It would turn them from failures into victims. It would mean they don't…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 07:25 PM
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He explicitly did not get the same treatment and giving him the same treatment would have been unfair anyways since he started at an disadvantage. Also he is not in this threat or on this sub, I don't know who you are talking about. Saying this person you don't know had everything he needed when he never got any support form anyone including his own family and tried to off himself multiple times... I don't think we will see eye to eye, no matter how long we talk.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 07:15 PM
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It does not go both ways. Many of these men start at 0 and go through life staying at 0% interest. They never feel anything other than disgust from their prospective partners. Secondly, the attention a women recieves on todays dating market never goes as low as it starts off as for a unattractive man. Grandmas have higher success rate on dating apps than men do. To link you to an example: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12153759/Im-72-year-old-woman-like-date-men-20s-30s.html Have you…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 06:52 PM
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It should be telling that incels accept people who hire hookers as incels. It's not about the physicall act of sex, it's about ever feeling love, physcial affection, intimacy with a partner.Moslow's hierachy of needs has "Love&Belonging" at the 3rd rank, after "Safety" and "Physiological Needs". Many of these people are alone from the beginning, bullied either because of their looks or because they are autistic. That group is vastly overrepresented. So they grow up alone, go through their format…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 06:38 PM
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Im not that man, and how is your behavior here the less childish? A person is lashing out, trying to offend and hurt back and you are taking the opportunity to give up on cooperative behavior and running with it. Why would someone who never experienced any support from society en large continue to follow rules of etiquette with the people he percieves most either guilty of or complicit in his abuse?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 06:29 PM
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I'm going to give a few suggestions I can think off of the top of my head: -Acknowledging the reality of a statistic that does not reflect well on women instead of using shaming or other cheap tricks to try and deny the facts. There are countless horrible parts of male nature and sexuality and society does not shy away from mentioning them. But here are some stats I never heared mentioned about things which instead are always rejected out of hand even to be possible: -Looks predict female attrac…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 06:21 PM
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But you ignore the lifes of mistreatment by society these boys and men percieve to have gone through because of their sex and as a direct result of female behavior. By your logic, if these boys first experienced abuse as part of the conflict of interest between men and women they are no longer obliged to care about whatever women think or feel, making their insults justified. No one is obliged to do anything, but that is not the standart you would hold others to if your well being was at stake. …
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 06:01 PM
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have you considered where such reactions come from? Let me share a snippet from another men's personal story: Autist, diagnosed in teen years. Weird speech patterns. Intensely mobbed during school for his looks and behavior to the point of being forcefully stripped naked and filmed by the most popular men and the girls in his class. Later in group therapy, together with a girl from his class. She claims to have the same struggles he does, but he knows she goes on parties and meets friends each w…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 05:56 PM
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Crazy, we can talk about this in an exchange with some nuance. What a twist! I grew up aggressively supporting women in what I percieved their struggle at the time.Now that my sex is suffering and in need of societal support, seeing many women online stand between indifference and sadistic glee at our downfall is beyond unfair, it's unforgivable to me.I'm receprocital in nature, I give so I can recieve. To give just to be tossed aside when no longer useful hurts me to my core. I remember instanc…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 05:38 PM
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You have not denied showing sympathy to the men that offended you. You have explicitly after i asked you denied to express sympathy with men in general. In addition, asking for the discussion to be nice and friendly is easier for the side not in intense misery and pain and feeling treated unfairly by society as a whole. In fact, it would be an act of grace and maturity to overlook the aggression displayed towards you and try to find common ground. To show understanding and consider that if someo…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 05:14 PM
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Oh, I have found some sympathetic women IRL as well. But getting sympathy from someone you personally meet is a lower standart than getting sympathy from a stranger. Women you meet in person a) have an incentive to express sympathy to avoid conflict b) have it easier to empathize with you because they know you c) would look bad if they behaved as mean-spirited as the women on here do, so it's also reputational management. Yeah, selection bias is obviously bringing the most combative individuals …
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 05:04 PM
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Seems to me you are not applying a very strict moral standart to your actions.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:57 PM
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Again, you don't feel like expressing sympathy for the entirety of men and that is because someone posted something on here you found insulting? Can I use this as well? Do I get to ignore all struggles any woman ever faces if I can find some other woman around saying something mean? Seems to me you are not applying a very strict moral standart to your actions.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:55 PM
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No, you don't get to decide when to ignore everything someone says so you can pretend to be justified in your actions. Engage with the claim or lose, you don't get to take the moral highground because... I disagreed with you? Because I made the absurd suggestion that you might have missprecieved your role in an interaction?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:53 PM
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You were saying women shouldn't have to care about his suffering because he used derogatory language? And of course it's understandable to hit back if you are being mistreated. Isn't that a frequent excuse women use on here, just look amognst these very comments? Men didn't treat me nice, so men as a group aren't worthy of my sympathy. Straight up right here amongst like 10 comments is an example. What are the odds?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:51 PM
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I'm not opening up another study from you until you've told me why you are so impossibly wrong about a study you are citing. Good strat to focus on what you think you can handle so you once again can ignore the core point you ignored since the first post and anything else you would rather not deal with. Ofc, if someone else ever did that to you, it would be a cheap manipulative move intendet to derail the discussion away from the original questions. You are either a moron, have not read the stud…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:45 PM
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How do you know his deragatory language predates the lack of female sympathy he experiences and not the other way around
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:22 PM
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Women find men expressing positive emotions less attractive than men expressing aggression.Which is in line with other studies (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167214543879) finding that responsiveness in a partner is an attractive trait to have as a woman but not as a man. Which is in line with women percieving the same men they think of as more threatening as more sutiable as partners (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364661305003207 ) Which is in line w…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:15 PM
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Men were right to tell you that. You're struggle to find a partner up to your standarts is not the same as the male struggle to experience an ounce of honest physical affection. It weren't the men treating you like crap, you were insensitive to how bad their experience was and demanded your struggle was put up just as high as theirs. You were a rich person coming out of a supermarket, complaining to a bunch of starving beggars how hard it is for you because you just couldn't find something you r…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 04:05 PM
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Again, no engagement with the core point that women don't admit their role, make sure all the responsibility lies with society or someone else and don't acknowledge where there is a conflict of interest in which they might have to compromise. lol if she put it first would you be saying 'And this wonderful woman told us all about the plight of women as a setup for what really matters, the talk about men'? No you would shit your pants crying about how she just couldn't wait to talk about women. If…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:58 PM
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not to mention, you again easily could have disproven my point by starting with an admission along the lines "of course I sympathise with the misery I can see so many young men go through, but on here there is a combatative mood and that is not very conductive to expressing empathy" but nah, it's all men's fault and we deserve anything we get
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:50 PM
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So the entire male sex, including men yet to become adults, is not worth your sympathy because you were hurt by the things posted on here that portray women in a bad light? You are saying, because people here hold bad opinions about women there is no need for you to empathise with the misery of an entire generation of men, do I understand that correctly?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:47 PM
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Love the civil discourse, I'm sure you would demand the same of a woman not instantly providing a source for her claim. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-10737-001 ​ Also again, no engagement with the core point. Also, the bad thing was in your own link and you just berated me for not instantly reading all of it and starting at the top. What did you think the quotation marks where for?
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:41 PM
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good to know, go tell him to his face maybe also, another example of an attempt at shaming to switch the focus of w/e was discussed to another issue
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:35 PM
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You have not engaged with the core point of my 2 posts and already started personal attacks and name calling. I'm neither incurious nor is noticing the completly indifference displayed by women towards male misery embarrassing. ​ "Being held to a toxic standard of masculinity that has to do with emotionlessness, unconditional strength, and participating in only traditionally masculine activities and interests." Non of these things are core to the struggle of young men. If anything, today young m…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:34 PM
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As an additional example, we have things along the lines of "men can't express their emotions as freely". But there is no mention of the studies showing women find pictures of men expressing emotions like crying or even positive ones like happyness, less attractive compared to pics where men are angry / neutral. There is no admition of anything that would inconvenience women as a group or put responsibility for men's plight at their feet.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:23 PM
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Those aren't showing sympathy for actual male problems as part of a discussion about dating, they are what women imagine might be a problem for men in a context that does not propose them as in any way responsible. Not to mention: "Being held to a toxic standard of masculinity that has to do with emotionlessness, unconditional strength, and participating in only traditionally masculine activities and interests.Of course, standards of femininity bring their own unique challenges." e.g. is just a …
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:16 PM
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Typical female attempt at shaming by association, dodging any real argument. Did Hitler have the right opinion when it comes to veganism? Say yes and you agree with Hitler. Oh noooo! Pathetic. The idea that it would be a better world if people weren't born into bodies that will bring them nothing but misery and lonelyness is nothing dumbfounding. The idea that eugenics could improve the world was wide spread amongst pre-WW2 leftsits who wanted to use it to equalise lower and upper classes and cr…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 01:58 PM
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Higher male variance in most traits means men will fill most of the seats at the very top of almost all fields. Greater male willingness to shoulder responsibility, higher competitiveness, etc. means men will usually take most of the lead roles. Feminists have unspoken (or just outspoken) assumptions connected to the term: That this discrepancy is unfair, is caused by oppression, is not of the women's own choice / making, that women could fill these roles just as well, etc. These assumptions are…
/r/MensRights16/07/23 12:28 PM
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Reading female comments here makes me want to chew tacks. Infinite amount of data showing how females are extremly focused on height. Obvious evolutionary explanation. Observable examples everywhere you look (sperm banks require you to be above certain height, think it was 5'8, because otherwise there is simply not the slightest demand for your seed)... "My friends don't think that way..." "I don't care about height..." "It's just because you focus on it so hard, it's your mental that's the prob…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 11:18 AM
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They are covering their own ass preemptively. Remember a collection of the most aggressively progressive female journalists posted on twitter who all... had white men as their partner. It's like pedophiles being public judgemental about hentai. Since you know you are guilty, you position yourself amongst your own opposition to avoid detection. How much of interracial tension is the result of women virtue signaling as hard and mindlessly as possible just so they could feel safe while selecting "s…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 08:28 AM
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feel your pain. Hope I one day at least find irl friends that are similar enough to me that we can share our misery together
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 07:53 AM
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I would change my medication, it has obviously driven me insane worry about being set up for some scam otherwise, I don't know, love her with everything I got? my biggest worry would be pushing her away by beeing to clingy
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:56 AM
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As more men suffer, political importance of the topic increases. There's no need to go with a single solution. Do all of them at once. Visit escorts, if you have the money/it helps you Try to get the most risk/reward effective surgeries (e.g. hair transplant) Keep an eye on how sex bots are coming along Try to spread awareness amongst men, adjusting your tone and arguments to the type of company you're in Cope with some form of escapism or self-improvement Men as a whole should start organzing a…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:52 AM
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There was an actor in i think "The Shield" that had a scene where he beat up a woman. The weeks after that episode aired, he started recieving a massive influx of female fan mail. Think he said something along the lines of "and then a lot of things started making sense to me" in an interview after. It's all so tiresome
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:44 AM
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Now imagine if there was a single piece of data or testable claim as part of her comment. One could post a study showing the exact opposite But how do you even engage with a generalisation about the entire male sex and also about every single mtf transgender. Vile
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:37 AM
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Posts along the lines of "we're all subhumans and should be exterminated from the gene pool so no future generation has to suffer as we do" are fairly common on incel spaces. These men have never experienced an ounce of affection, love, positive feedback of any kind and many were bullied from early on for their looks. The idea that some mean words would make them no longer eligible for empathy is absurd. Progressives pride themselfs with seeing behind the actions of criminals and murderers of al…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:31 AM
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If you look at research you find that what women say they find attractive and what actually predicts their choice of partner do not match. You might suspect that these women are aware that their preferances would make them look bad if stated out loud, or you might wonder if they are fooled by their own flawed self-perception, but either way, what is generally said about attraction and what has been shown about attraction through data has little overlap. Some examples include: Strong racial prefe…
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:03 AM
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Problem a: From evolutionary perspective any women in need is a reproductive opportunity while every man in need is a risk / burden / unworthy ally. You don't want to form a hunting party or similar with a man not capable of taking care of himself, that's just lowering your chances at survival. So we end up with both men and women being less empathetic to male struggle and misery. This natural inclanation would require heavey social pressure to overcome but the social pressure runs in the exact …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:47 AM
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Predator? Because he's trying to seduce another adult younger than himself x)? I don't think there's any hope for us to see eye to eye. Some "grizzled old balding dude" is not who I am talking about. It's about a successfull, established prof getting together with a youthfull student. Neither of them are victim or predator, they see something in the other they desire and exchanging those things is the basis for their relationship. He has prestige, a safe, high status job, connections into higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:10 AM
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No. Instutions can ban relationsships to prevent the possibility of abuse of power, but that does not render everyone who would have partaken in those relationsship guilty by default. Fundamentally, the questions is irrelevant to my original point. Older female academics and younger male students have an interest to stigmatize these relationsships in general, even under circumstances not allowing for conflicts of interests. This is true no matter if there are other reasons for doing so or if tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:51 AM
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No. This is blaming and shaming men for evolved instincts. And the men that can follow that instinct / pull younger women are exactly the ones you would be interested in. Meaning you would be envious of the girl getting that man. I'm not sure if you are even denying that, you call it a "nice fantasy". But you claim the only reason these women don't try to compete is because they know they would lose. Which means they would want to if they could, which means they are envious of the young girls ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:46 AM
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So much wrong. Men are ~all into younger girls when they have the option. And women choose which men to compete for by looking at things like status, money, experience. You're falsifing the preferances of both groups at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:06 AM
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No. There is a possibility for an abuse of institutional power by the prof to bang a younger stundent or by the student of her sexual power to get better grades. Similar possibilities exist everywhere and always. You don't get to assume them guilty ("that is a literal abuse of power"). And their guilt in regards to falsifying grades / academic achievments should have no relevance to the societal acceptance of their long term relationsship afterwards (I specified marriage in the original post). U…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:19 AM
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When young female students marry acomplished professors both young male students and older female academics have an obvious self-interest in making such relationsships taboo to increase their own access to the respective groups. In general, competing with younger women is a losing battle which should be avoided, since some of the traits men are most strongly selecting for (health, fertility, innocence, submissiveness and just straight up youth) are naturally perceived to be higher in them. So an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:35 AM
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Many incel spaces bring together men who have problems with women and a smaller number of women who have problems with men. Both sides usually have already made intensely unpleasent experiences with the other sex. And the mixing of these two groups results, as one would expect, often in extrem vitriol and an arms race to see who can hurt the other the most. I think these exchanges is where some of the worst impressions come from. When you see something in the middle of such an ongoing flame war …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:10 PM
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He's kind of lost the plot by now, but I will always have respect and gratefullness for him and anyone else who reached out to struggling / low status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:00 PM
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Well, maybe that's the side winning the discussion. You could consider other explanations. Like, maybe the blue pilled ones find more partners and therefore leave the sub in larger quantity. Over time more red pilled men might be entering because they feel more need to vent / are the ones still looking for solutions. Possible, but than one might sooner or later see some data indicating this. If you discuss something repeatedly over a longer timeframe it should be expected and desired for a conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:52 AM
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