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"At the same time, women are usually more exposed to men’s perspectives. Through media, conversations, advice, it’s everywhere. So women are expected to understand men, while men often don’t develop the same level of understanding in the other direction." It's the other way around. Women are surrounded by attention from guys everywherere, hence they spend no time studying men, they don't learn about them and their perspectives/behaviours. That's why they are played so easily and take no accounta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:27 PM
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The real red flag is when she has hooked up with guys in the past but now wants you to wait. Run as far as possible. What you want is a virgin, or a woman who has always made guys wait a long time to make sure it's a committed, serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:10 PM
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It's funny because every time this topic comes up a lot of women get all defensive and say I am not a part of the hookup culture. In fact, the vast majority will claim that. If that was true, how come it's virtually impossible to find a virgin in her 20s while looking for a girlfriend? My point being, the vast majority of women were part of the hookup culture, thus they are part of the problem. If you have engaged in casual sex even just once, that's you being a part of it. You skew and ruin the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:40 PM
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I am guessing the OP is purposely missing the point, and was never interested in any answers. Anyway, to state the obvious, men want to grow together, build a life together, learn together, experience new things together, become your best self together. The sooner that happens the better for the survival of any relationship as statistics regarding body count would tell you. When you are a 30 something career woman who wants an add on to her life because she wants a babby-daddy, don't expect mira…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:25 AM
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OP, most women will tell you it's not true and they are happily married blah blah blah. Divorce rates are extremely high, and body-count significantly increases the chances of a divorce. In reality, most of such women rode the situationship CC, settled for a Billy-beta, and they will either end up cheating on him in the future because they have no respect for him, or he will once he figures out he is being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:50 AM
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OP, women here, especially in the 30+ bracket, will try to virtue-signal and shame you into dating them because they're bitter and/or desperate, but the reality is it is merely a revenge fantasy on their part. Most young women will happily date somewhat older men. I am 30, and I have never been more successful with 18-24 women. The majority of them will consider you if you have your shit together and are a 6 and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:47 AM
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Laughing at some of the comments here. Answer yourself this question, how many times have you seen men complaining about being in a situationship. "Oh no, this girl is using me for sex and no commitment" - said no man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:20 PM
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Anyone can be picky but if you find yourself saying/thinking stuff such as where all the good men at/men are boys/immature/don't want commitment/scumbags etc. then it means you are the problem and you are too picky when it comes to looks and the dark triad traits. I will also mention that women SHOULD be extremely pick FROM THE START when it comes to personality traits, but sadly very few are. Instead, they put their focus and energy into looking for the most attractive, dominant, dark triad guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:15 PM
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You are talking about something else, and you are right that they would fuck actual criminals, murderers, rapists etc. Having said that, they are extremely picky in looks and the dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:11 PM
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100%. That's like ethnic minorities saying they can't be racist. It's responsible for most of the racism we see nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:38 PM
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Yes, it is true women mature faster in childhood and teenage years Physically, yes. Not mentally. I would argue the opposite. Men are exposed to the hardships of life much sooner, especially when it comes to dating struggles, rejection etc. Most women don't even think about this stuff before the late 20s/early 30s. They just think it's "luck," or "all men are blah blah." Men are forced to self-reflect much sooner, so their sense of accountability, that with rights come responsibilities, or that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:24 PM
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Why are you assuming OP u/ErenYeagerwasright suggests turning into an asshole just because he said stopped being nice? It's been discussed here ad nauseum what being nice means. He is basically saying he is not going to be a doormat beta-bux. Correct me if I am wrong, OP? Women here say all the time they are not attracted to being an asshole, but merely confident, charismatic guys who know what they want, how to get it, and who are generally assertive. Therefore, isn't the change OP is suggestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:52 AM
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Read closely : 85 percent of young people prefer other options to hooking up. Yeah, a lot of women say that after engaging in the hookup culture. They thought they can get themselves a Chad, got burnt, so now they say they don't like it. The real question should be have you ever engaged in the hookup culture? 85% would say yes to that (unless they lie, which is often the case like in the body count studies results for women when they were hooked to a lie detector vs not).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:38 AM
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More queens are responsible for wars historically than kings. Using the first born male and sister instruments, we find that polities ruled by queens were 39 percentage points more likely to engage in a war in a given year, compared to polities ruled by kings. https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_2019120.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:33 AM
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OP u/wolfloveyes , a lot of the responses here personally attacking you prove your point. I think it's their insecurity showing. Some of these women here should be ashamed of themselves. Don't take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:43 AM
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Haha. Most marriages end in divorces nowadays. Especially for women with higher body count, chances of a marriage surviving beyond 5 years are slim. Less people get married these days too. That's telling me most people are definitely less happy than they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:23 PM
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Which leads me to believe these dead bedrooms have much more to do with the woman's attraction to a guy and how much she "sexually explored" before him too. Absolutely. 99% of men would want a woman to learn and explore sex with them and only them. All else the same, would a man prefer a woman with a body count 0 or 10? I think 99/100 guys would pick the one with a 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:41 PM
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You're probably right. I have a feeling more men have this standard, though, which would explain why so many women complain about situationships and not being taken seriously. I am that guy every time such a woman wants more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:30 AM
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It’s fine if that’s what you want but it doesn’t make sense to have that standard then be upset later on when you have a dead bedroom or get less sex than you would have wanted. This is entirely my opinion, so I understand if you disagree, but I believe that dead bedrooms do not derive from men marrying virgins/ low body count women. The way I see it, it's the opposite. I have some friends in real life who are a bit older than me, mid to late 30s, and they are good guys, but very blue-pilled. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:26 AM
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The problem with ONS (and where we will most likely disagree) is that they mean different things when it comes to men and women due to sexual dimorphism. For example, a 6ft5 man is generally considered attractive, but a 6ft5 woman is not. Therefore, I don't think short women are hypocrites for wanting tall men; that's normal. The same goes when it comes to muscular men vs women or the fact a petite man is generally not considered attractive, but a petite woman is. Rich men will mostly have no pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:49 PM
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Men are equally overweight/obese Agreed. That's why it's a completely reasonable standard for both men and women. and most have probably had at least situationships. You lost me here. Do you think most men had even one situationship, so sleeping with a girl that would refuse to commit to them? There is a male equivalent of this, and it's called the friendzone, but most men most certainly have not had a situationship. That's almost exclusively a female-centered phenomenon. The same way friendzone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:27 PM
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"The past doesn't matter" and "people change preferences" unless a man is a virgin, dated other men in the past (bi), or has a history of cheating ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:39 PM
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You're probably right, but that only goes to show how incredibly low the modern women have sunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:35 PM
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I am 30, 6ft5, fit, with a full set of hair, and work at a bank. For LTR, I would like someone younger than me, with no history of ONS and situationships, of a healthy weight, and with a decent personality. That's all. I don't think my standards are high at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:20 PM
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And women also claim they have different tastes, so how is it possible that all of them slept with this guy? Not just a few, but all the women in one friend group sleeping with one guy? How do women justify this? Looking forward to meeting all these women preferring a short, broke, small-dicked, introverted guy with an asymmetrical face then ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:00 PM
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Ive seen girls get clowned on for wanting a tall/rich guy all the time, Ive also seen guys get clowned on for saying they dont want to date fat girls or girls that party. It goes both ways. Men can't control their height, and there is only so much a person can do to significantly change their economic circumstances without governmental help, affirmative action etc. Only very few people manage to do that. If you were born into a working-class background and you got no financial help from your par…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:52 PM
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Because these are the things a lot of people don't have any or very little control over. You can't control your height, and a lot of the times there is only so much you can do in terms of your finances. Very few people ever manage to significantly improve the financial class they were born into. If you were born into a working-class family living in a camper, you will do well for yourself if you can eventually move to a city, have a 60k per year job, and maybe have your own place, 10 year old ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:42 PM
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If women posted long dissertations on how disgusting short men are like men here talk about high ncount women, single mothers, fat women then it'd be the same These are 2 different things. People can't control their height. Therefore, they shouldn't be criticized for something they have no control over. On the other hand, ncount, single motherhood, or ones weight are absolutely down to choices, hence the criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:33 PM
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All these men already exist and are never given a fair chance because they're not Chad's. They might be offered a BB sexless relationship with a 30 something single-mother, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:51 PM
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OP, hoemath is the closest thing we have to rationalizing women and their often irrational choices. "Zones" is a pretty accurate depiction and visualization of all that. /thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:10 PM
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OP, it's female solipsism. They literally think they are "growing," "maturing," "learning," and generally becoming a better person post-CC. They do not give two fucks about how a man would see it. It's just pre hypocrisy, that's all. It's like a man cheating through the whole marriage, and when he gets caught, he says it was necessary to become a better husband, asking the wife to love him even more now ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:14 PM
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Depends on how you interpret these things, so basically what would it look like in real life? Option A could be bad, because perhaps her immaturity might showcase itself in the worst possible way, in the relationship itself. For example, having issues with the most irrational things that shouldn't constitute a problem. On the other hand, maybe it's great because a good relationship should mean growing together and building each other up to become the best versions both parties can be. Therefore,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:01 PM
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Obviously, 99% of men would want a woman who has never engaged in casual sex, so without any baggage. Not sure how is that even a question. As to your second point, regarding the percentage of the female population engaging in AF/BB, it's a tricky one because a lot of people don't talk about the same thing. There are very few women who regularly engage in casual sex (aka more than a few partners). Having said that, the majority of women have had casual sex in the past. Whether it was once or twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:05 PM
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Best answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:23 AM
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Western men are exotic to local women. Correct. I struggled a big time in the US/UK as a 6ft5 white guy with an average face and a dad bod. The best I could attract was maybe 5/10 white girls. Showed up in Thailand, and was getting 8/10, 9/10 girls left, right, and middle for a total amount of $0. They loved me over there. I did equally well with Chinese girls at Uni in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:13 AM
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Haha, you destroyed this thread brilliantly. The virtue signalers are in ruins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:06 AM
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OP, you must be laughing your ass off at people saying stuff like "Just do it." It's like they have missed the part where millions of men have already left, and you have millions of women over 30 complaining about where all the good men at. 45% of them will be single and childless by 2030. Do men complain about the lack of sex? Sure, all the time, but when men get to 30+ they rarely complain about not being able to find a girlfriend. Anyone mocking you, saying it's not the answer, ignore them. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:02 AM
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Many people don't agree with you, OP, but under the right circumstances, with the right man providing for a woman, it would absolutely make sense. For once, we would fix the high body-count epidemic since university/college is where all the naive girls "find themselves" by engaging in the hookup culture only to discover they didn't want the hoe life to begin with. It would safe them from an epiphany phase that destroys their future marriages (see below) and chances to get married to begin with (…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:35 AM
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This. Might as well close the thread now. 99% of mothers do that, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:21 AM
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Connection. It's not about skill, perfection, or status. First time will be awkward no matter what, so it's the connection between the two people that gives them that feeling of safety, at ease etc. If a guy doesn't care about a woman, it can only be disastrous. Having said that, I actually agree with your premise, because I am describing the perfect case scenario, and for for most women it has nothing to do with reality. They just pick a rando Chad, so I would rather sell it if that was me. Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:40 PM
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Simple, OP u/alebruto . It's her body her choice when it suits them (to control men via sex supply). When she chooses to suck off 10 Chads in a back alley, that's empowering. If she is smart and chooses to do the same in the safety of her place, charging a ton of money with her own rules and protection, then how dare you! The majority of escorts/prostitutes could choose to do any regular job that doesn't require qualifications (although a lot of them pursue higher education), but this is easy bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:43 AM
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OP, you make some good points. The way I see it, nowadays most women lose their virginity to some Chad they think they have a shot at, who ghosts them soon after (I used to work as a student advisor at Uni, so I heard these stories a lot). Based on that, I think if you are to have a shit experience with Chad, and most do, then might as well have a shit experience for a TON of money. I mean, at the very least, hundreds of thousands. If the majority of women were somehow to go back in time and be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:31 AM
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Older couples? I would worry more about the younger couples. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:19 AM
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10/10 response; close thread. The thing is, it sucks from his perspective because he is literally meeting all the criteria, ticks the boxes that women claim to want, and yet, the best he can hope for is "swimming in options" in their 30s, so on a physical decline, run-through, with baggage. Depressing, to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:11 AM
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Then, they complain on places like 2 X, dating over thirty, or whatever. Just more material for r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:50 PM
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Two winners of the delusion of the year award are answers to these: Do you think your life is harder than the opposite sex? Utterly deluded on this one. Life can be difficult for anyone, and I think the gender that gets assaulted more, dies at a young age more, is disproportionately imprisoned, works longer hours, and has a shorter life-expectancy overall has a good claim to say "life is harder," but they don't anywhere near as much as women. Even bloody parents don't spend as much money on boys…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:07 AM
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Exactly. That top 10% is having sex with 80% of the women. Also, it doesn't have to be "regular." The regular is there more so for the top 1%, and they get to be even more picky. Your average woman can be associated with the hook-up culture, though. I have never met a woman who would engage in it regularly for an extended amount of time. It's usually just a couple of times, or at most a semester, or even a few semesters, etc. However, the culture exists and is prominent because if you go to any …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:46 AM
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Women look so bad in this poll. Same like any other recent poll. We have a raised a generation of spoiled, entitled, and not-emotionally intelligent brats as far as a lot of women are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:21 AM
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Spot on, OP. Sadly, most of us were raised by women (more female teachers, etc.) or blue-pilled men and we have been programmed to subconsciously believe that women don't care about looks as much as men and if you are nice, interesting, and with top-notch morals women will choose you. Imagine if the message was: women care about looks as much as men if not more women do not give a shit about your niceness or morals, in fact, it's a turn-off, and the more dark-triad personality traits you display…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:17 PM
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The only correct answer. If you're old enough to go to war, own guns, do porn, whatever the hell you want, getting into a relationship with an older man is child's play.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:51 PM
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OP, you have triggered quite a lot of women. Their responses are definitely full of emotion. You are right, of course, women act on emotion more than men. /thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:43 PM
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I recently came across this argument that men should give more in a relationship than the woman as a way to compensate for enduring inequalities that women face, both socially constructed and biological. Stopped reading after that. Why would we entertain such BS idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:35 PM
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This is just a female strategy to equal the playing field. Women in their 30s know they can't possible compete with women in their 20s for the top-tier men, so they try to demonize such relationships instead, to make sure society doesn't allow such men to date younger women. That's the only way they can attempt to get the said man. It's a very basic concept, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:44 AM
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This 100%. It's the AF/BB dynamic and every feminists dream scenario. Date the biggest Chads and Tyrones out there, do it all, hell, gangbangs or whatever crazy shit you're into, and then find yourself a nice, good-boy, white-knight cuck who will be your subservient betabux. Unless you are some sort of literal multimillionaire as a woman, good luck with that strategy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:21 AM
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Great idea. I know from my own experience that I can get way more attractive non-white girls (as a white guy) than white girls. European 6s disregard me quite often because I have an average face and don't have a six-pack and a pretty-boy face, but Asian 8s/9s are routinely attracted to me because I am tall (6'5) and big (not fat or anything). I never had to give them any money, nothing like that. Casually dated several of them over the years. White girls associate their attractive with the amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:08 AM
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You are right here, and so are the 2 other poster you got a response from. I would rate her as a 6.5, so definitely not the most attractive girl he was with. He used to attract literal models closer to 8-9.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:54 AM
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Guys on dating apps lying about their intentions, claiming they want relationships but then seeing multiple women and not liking 'labels' These are the sort of guys that constitute the top 5-10% of all men and have options. Essentially, we are all biologically hardwired to want a LTR, and men are no different. Are there exceptions? Sure, like with everything else in life, but the vast majority wants a LTR IF they meet the right partner. I don't know any men in real life who wouldn't want a partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:51 AM
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I agree, but a lot of women use it as a tactic when it comes to religion. They "plan" to turn to God when they are done with Chads, often single moms, etc. There is nothing genuine about it. Sadly, I know quite a few of those cases. The way they talk about it, they don't even try to hide it too much. "I come from a religious household, and I thought religion was stupid until I found myself alone, with no money, needing help with kids in my early 30s." This is an actual quote from someone I know.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/24 06:18 AM
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Unfortunately, too many women equal regret with rape. I have come across an alarming amount of women who claimed "rape" when it was literally drunk sex by both parties. They didn't particularly enjoyed it, or felt played/manipulated, so in their heads it must have been rape. Feminism hates women and was probably invented by a massive misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:04 AM
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All social justice keyboard warriors should be conscripted. Both men and women. Whoever doesn't do that and doesn't want to participate should be allowed to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:47 AM
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OP, spot on. My favourite one is the so called "liberal" women basically saying women in the so called "non-western" countries have no agency, no brain, no education, no knowledge etc., therefore they are "manipulated" by the western men. The reality is a lot of these women are better educated (Eastern Europe, Japan or Korea in Asia), have a better understanding of nutrition, health and excercise in general, as you can see in the BMI scores, and actually have knowledge regarding femininity and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:09 PM
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You're more or less right on everything, IMO. These feelings derive from evolutionary biology. That's how males and females are hardwired. Your solution is great as well. Another solution is not engaging in casual sex as a woman, so you can expect your man to stay committed to you in the future. Casual sex strongly affects divroce rates, happiness etc., so if you want a happy, stable relationship, do not engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:38 PM
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Anything more than 0, 4 times more likely to get a divorce. It gets higher with every next partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:29 PM
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Wait all you want, but only as long as you are not increasing your body count. Anything more than 0 increases chances of a divorce 4 times, and goes up with every next partner. You should wait to mature and find the right partner, both for sex and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:21 PM
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Absolutely. Hollywood needs to stop shitting on average guys. A lot of young women develop a perspective and their biases largely based on what they see on TV. Therefore, I would start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:57 AM
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Nothing. The one about the brain development is the "You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A Myth." It has all the information you need in the OP. Look it up in this subreddit. The video is to do with the relationship between the N-count and divorce since the poster above said it's a great idea to wait till you're older to commit. Sure it is, but only assuming you don't get your n-count up. Then, it's a great idea to take your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:58 PM
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Thanks for your response, but I have three degrees from a University in the world's top 50. I know a thing or two about credible sources. On a side note, from my seven years in higher education, I have realized that degrees don't mean anything if you don't research. Read the "You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' OP that consists of multiple credible academic research examining this topic instead of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:55 PM
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First of all, search for "You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A Myth" on this subreddit. It completely debunks your opinion. I can't post a link because my previous comment was deleted for posting reddit links. Now, why are we spreading myths that contribute to the creation of unhappy, unmarriageable women with extremely high chances of divorce even if they end up getting married? What you are saying is you are encouraging women to accumulate a high body count that wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:08 AM
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I usually find myself agreeing with most of your points, but in this case, I see it differently. Whereas I understand you get an incline from your partner, so we are not discussing your particular circumstances, I think that women don't date "worse partners," with the key word being "partners." Sure, but being the best possible partner doesn't equal being the best lover in the eyes of many women. Oftentimes, from my observation, women choose sexually best partners in their youth, only to settle …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:44 AM
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I would like it for women to have more self-awareness and a less caveman-like mentality when it comes to dating. For example, when it comes to Chad, women don't ask if it's a date, where this is going, or anything like that. They just fuck him with no expectation, and then they say they didn't know what he was like. Did you ask him, though, about anything to do with his history, what he is looking for, what he wants from you? No, of course, you didn't. On the other hand, when it comes to an aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:37 AM
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I can’t remember what dating app it was but south Asian men were one of the races sought after in the uk. That's 100% not true. Source? If anything, UK blatantly discriminates against Asian men. More so than any other race for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:34 AM
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She is not honest bro (probably not on purpose, though). I spent 7 years in the UK (almost all of my 20s), and no white-British girl ever considered any of my Asian friends. When she says "liked," she means as friends or whatever. Ask her how many Asian guys she or her friends dated. Or better, just look at the statistics. Asians are statistically the most discriminated against group in the UK. When people say racism in the UK, everyone means black people. They don't give a shit about Asian men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:27 AM
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Exactly, these "choices" aren't really choices at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:22 PM
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Like, why would you want a relationship with average when you can hire an elite hooker who is like a model? If you have the money why not hire whenever you want (like 3 or 5 times p/w)? Nobody with options wants a relationship with them. They get pumped and dumped and that's the end of it. She wouldn't notice the sort of guy that would consider a LTR. Regarding your other question, the guys who can afford elite-level hookers do just that. That's why the escort industry is one of the most flouris…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:03 AM
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Nice cope. https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/being-unmarried-makes-a-woman-a-higher-suicide-risk-6678947.html https://www.jstor.org/stable/350523 https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/trends?category=Gender%20%26%20Marriage&measure=happy https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969 https://www.thefp.com/p/why-the-mental-health-of-liberal https://www.healthassured.org/blog/women-s-mental-health-the-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:59 AM
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Bingo. The vast majority of women nowadays are misandrist, arrogant, entitled, disrespectful and act like they are the shit for 10-15 years. Eventually, they end up like her, and then they are shocked to discover that people mock them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:01 AM
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Yeah. Whereas I have come across some reasonable female posters, the majority is either trolling because they conveniently view the world from the blue-pilled perspective (aka the rich get richer), or simply, are outraged by some openness among the men. You have to remember that women do not practice open, constructive communication. They hide behind virtue signalling, or whatever makes them look good. Then, you point out what's happening out in the real world and they are like how dare you not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:57 PM
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ugly guys If you were with them, they couldn't be so ugly? Something made them attractive to you to begin with, and it was probably a mixture of dark triad traits. A lot of the times guys above your league treat you badly because they don't really care about you. It's like with jobs. If you have a shitty job, you don't care. If you have a dream job, you really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:40 AM
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Society hates older men as well. Only the good looking/rich ones get a break. Women all have a SMV of a literal celebrity in their youth, though, so I would say society hates men much more than women overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:57 AM
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Or, you are almost 7 times more likely to get a divorce if you have 10+ partners. Even the jump from 0 partners to 1 partner equals 4 times more likely to get a divorce, 2 partners is 6 times more likely to get a divorce. Massive numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:51 AM
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I agree. It's down to their choices, though. A Chad will not accept an average woman. It would take something special to commit. Hence, so few of these stories end up in long-term happiness. Only women that are way above average stand a chance. It wouldn't be like that if women didn't all throw themselves at Chads, though. Women would have been much happier not getting P&D all the time. They would have to accept guys that are their looksmatch, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:49 AM
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<image> 32? Here is another stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:49 AM
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Because in my experience, that's what most women go for and then complain about it. Sometimes they complain about not so desirable guys as well, but in my experience, it's because they couldn't get Chad to begin with, only for sex, so average guys tend to be not good enough in their minds after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:53 PM
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Basically, it's owning up to ones choices. If I pick a woman, attractive or not, a Stacy or not, and she cheats on me, she is a shitty person. Having said that, I would blame myself for this choice thinking, what the hell made me pick her, I should have seen it coming etc. Basically, taking the responsibility for that bad choice for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:45 PM
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Everyone has different standards. I don't care if my potential partner had 10 LTRs or her age as much, but I don't want a woman who engaged in ONS. The reason for it can be perhaps best explained by this analogy. You hear that someone got a gucci bag for free. Then, you show up and you have to pay $500 for it. You feel scammed, don't you? Some people might not see it this way and that's fine, but I do, and a lot of others feel alike based on the existence of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:37 PM
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It's not really a "possibility". More like delusion or a fantasy that's never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:22 PM
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Have you ever had a ONS? Or a situationship? Or engaged in casual sex? If the answer to this is yes, that's what most men talk/complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:19 PM
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There isn't. HOWEVER, women have a tendency to, for example, pick a Chad and then complain he cheats, or doesn't commit, or treats them badly. You don't get to do that. Actions have consequences and every person has agency and accountability. If you pick badly, it's on you. Sure, they might be a shitty person for using you, but no one forced you to pick them. They can be a shitty person if they want, but it's on you if you choose to associate with them in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:14 PM
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Of course they do. Do people really think this is not the case? That's naive. I have seen/heard from the horses mouth how some relationships are, knowing full well what I have done with the same girls a few years back, or my friends. I always feel sorry for the guy in this BB scenario, so I tell them to really find out more about the past of the girl they're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:06 PM
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Pretty much, yes. There is no such thing as a double standard because of sexual dimorphism. In fact, pretty much what makes women attractive, makes men unattractive and vice-versa. For example, being a very tall/big man makes him desirable, but being a very tall/big woman makes her not desirable. Having a nice beard makes a man attractive, but a woman with a beard would be ridiculous. Female virgin is extremely desirable in the dating market, but a male virgin is not desirable. You could make a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:58 PM
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Bodily autonomy my ass. 1 word; conscription. Let's ask the men trapped in Ukraine how much bodily autonomy they were allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:50 PM
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<image> 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:15 PM
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Two words; apex fallacy. We have all experienced what you're describing here. Women perceive the world through the lenses of being a woman, obviously. They do not understand men face completely different set of circumstances. Partly, it's due to the modern propaganda of "men and women are all the same." Hence, they can't emphasize, as women do not analyze men the way men analyze women. Instead, they probably think you are some sort of weirdo loser in these circumstances. None of which is the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:36 PM
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Marriages end up sexless because alpha-widows are not satisfied with Billy-betas and Billy-betas, in time, realize they are being settled for. That's the main reason. I have never heard of a man not wanting to have sex with his wife as long as she has not massively declined or unless she engaged in casual sex prior to their marriage aka alpha widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:27 PM
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Not going to go into the whole "loathe" because it's just nonsense, but to answer the question, because women self-sabotage and report the highest rates of depression, singlehood, unhappiness, childlessness, and the whole "I hate men" like the OP, and "where are all the good men at" of all time despite having the best situation the whole gender has found itself in the history of our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:25 PM
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This is misleading. The standard for sex is non-existent, but the standards for relationships are considerable. Not as high as women because we are not hypergamous the way women are, but I think most men want a healthy-looking, non-promiscuous, feminine, nurturing kind of woman. She needs to be into him and be relatively attractive. I would say that's a relatively high standard that most men have. Having said that, a lot of men settle for less and end up unhappy. The same happens to women, of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:57 PM
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To be friends, you need to like someone to begin with. That means you like most things about them. Therefore, the difference between a friendship and a relationship is just whether or not we find them attractive enough. Also, I think men are more likely to be friends with women they find attractive. It's a no-brainer, it's just evolution at play. We are obviously more inclined to want to meet and talk to women we find attractive. Therefore, as we get to know them, if they are not promiscuous, bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:50 PM
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I can pretty much agree. I would say a man like that probably has a lot of options, so I would definitely proceed with caution if I was a woman in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:19 PM
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https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969 https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/being-unmarried-makes-a-woman-a-higher-suicide-risk-6678947.html https://www.jstor.org/stable/350523 https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/trends?category=Gender%20%26%20Marriage&measure=happy Spoiler alert: single women are not happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:55 PM
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Yeah, you nailed it pretty much. I have never heard any men referring to it as situationships. The expression seems to only apply to women. Girls engaging in situationships tend to be walking red flags and ought to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:47 PM
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I do not. I have never met a man who does. Even women don't care until they reach a certain age. I mean, when I was a teenager, the girls my age were banging/thirsting over older guys in their 20s. Women often use that age gap to extort resources and/or status from such guys. When they get older, though, and it no longer benefits them, they complain, because a 35-year-old woman with 2 decades on a CC thinks she deserves a Billy Beta to have children with, or worse, raise Chad's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:04 AM
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That's the key, IMO. For most men, it's obvious this is just a CC in the making. However, these women think they are "dating", "finding themselves" or whatnot. Then, when they have an epiphany phase, they think they have discovered something, that their experience is so unique, by figuring out it wasn't good for them when most people could tell such a woman has been self-sabotaging. Often, for more than a decade before such realization occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:48 AM
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Women should stop giving away sex without commitment. It would literally fix everything in the modern dating market,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:11 AM
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But it doesnt ends there, even if you yourself are "modest"...but you consume pornography, and you re looking for a sex partner to try all the sick stuff you see there, you re still an hypocrite, not only you re tainting your mind and your sexuality by adopting unrealisitc ideas about sex and destroying your perception of women, you re also contributing the same culture that makes many women end up with a past they dont feel proud of. Haha. Chads banging all the women are not the ones sitting at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:05 AM
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No. Usually, they have their cake and eat it too. I knew a "Chad" at Uni, who spent a few years banging the hottest chicks, countless virgins, you name it. Then, after education, he settled for a virgin, a nice, smart, successful girl, and he even recently got engaged to her. If she ever found out how he used to treat women, I doubt she would be interested in him, but who knows? Women tend to be turned on by dark-triad traits...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:32 AM
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Standards are a social construct. Especially for women, who are known to be more impressionable by what society tells them. Therefore, when they get "used to" Chad they conflate their SMV and DMV. Then, they tell you they won't settle for less, or that they can't lower their standards. It has a name; alpha widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:15 AM
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A lot of the comments here assume that seeing couples outside who are relatively looks matched (studies confirm it) means it's all good out there. It's not. Most of these couples don't last. Most women EVENTUALLY date guys at their own level of attractiveness, but not before accumulating vast mental and physical baggage through their participation in the Chad CC. Hence, 70% of all divorces are initiated by women. Hence. the correlation between marriages lasting and the number of sexual partners.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:53 AM
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Mic drop. You nailed the essence of it all here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:30 AM
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I don't know man, all the average looking women I know are married or going to be. 20s or 30s, same thing. Almost 50% of women between the ages of 25-44 will be single by 2030. Of the ones that get married, the majority will be divorced within 5 years. Settling almost never works. The ones that will make it are low-body count/1 partner marriages because they have statistically the highest chance of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:24 AM
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This. The whole post is just another way to virtue-signal and try to make women look good through spinning it and plausible deniability. It could be true, right? The reality is they want to justify in a virtuous way why they choose a Henry and reject the "nice guy."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:54 AM
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"Choosing" haha. Women are obsessed with marriage, wedding day, their dress, all that shit. They were told to wait till they were in their 30s, so they "wait" on a CC, and then it turns out that no guy better than 5/10 is interested in marrying them, and they don't want a Billy Beta. If they settle for Billy Beta, it inevitably ends in a divorce anyway. No Chad or Tyrone is waiting for a Plain Jane to marry like they do in the movies. Just look at what happens to all these actresses in real life…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:38 AM
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In the video they claim that you should look for someone who's open minded. Haha, people far on the left are the most intolerant bunch of people in existence. You disagree with them and have your own values and morals? They equal you to a nazi. The ironic thing is that they love their fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:34 AM
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Men are perceived to be disposable. It really tells you everything you need to know if you are seen merely as a resource just because you are a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:26 AM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Also, this is in line with previous research on the subject. (Fiore et al., 2010, January, Todd et al., 2007) and on Tinder in particular (Tyson, Perta, Haddadi & Seto, 2016). Tyson et al. (2016), p.1) It's just evolution, nothing controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:24 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:15 AM
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Chad, by definition, is a man who is considered conventionally attractive. Therefore, most women consider such a guy to be desirable. Whether it's because of looks, status, or money, it doesn't matter. It's someone who gets a lot of female sexual attention. Just because you or I think some guy is a 1/10 doesn't make it so. Facts don't care about our feelings or anecdotal evidence, and no amount of "moron" calling can change that. The free-market dating economy verifies everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:23 AM
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Tinder and which gender gets how many swipes, or any other dating app etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:31 AM
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Most women overestimate their sexual bargaining power. It gives them a chance to escorts and shit, but beyond getting fucked for favors/money, it blurs their judgment and usually leads to them sabotaging their chances at happiness in a real, pair-bonded relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:24 AM
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Women have lost the plot. They don't know wtf they want anymore. It's a different set of rules for different men. Women want unattractive men to be honest, so they can quickly establish what resources they can and can't extract from the said men to see whether a betabux relationship would be beneficiary for them. However, when it comes to attractive men, women think they benefit from the lack of honesty on the off-chance that they will win Chad over. Essentially, the honesty and the shit that fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:19 AM
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Men are shallow, and women are not. Bullshit. Women are more shallow and care about looks more than men do. A 5/10 man will happily date a 5/10 woman. A 5/10 woman will only look at 8/10+ men. The only exception is when she gets run through, older, etc., but then, by definition, she is not 5/10 anymore. Also, that would be simply a woman looking for a betabux, not someone she respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:07 AM
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A lot of men still repeat it must be lower libido because men are hornier than women. This is a nice cope, and just because there is a correlation doesn't mean there is a relation. Any guy who had a chance to experience being 7 and above knows that women can be sex-crazed just as much as men FOR THE RIGHT GUY. Right=attractive. Therefore, it's hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:01 AM
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Hoe_math is pretty spot on. Having said that, he hasn't discovered anything new but merely put the knowledge we have had out there for years into funny drawings. Nevertheless, a lot of blue pill people can benefit tremendously from watching his content. Since we are at it, I would also recommend Alexander Grace. He is a good watch as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:57 AM
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The perception of one's personality is heavily linked to their looks There were studies on that. Therefore, the real answer is that what makes someone boring is the lack of good looks. If the threshold is met, only then the actual personality becomes important. For example, you have two Chads. One is interesting, and the other one is boring. Obviously, women like the interesting one better, but they would still pick the boring one over interesting, less attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:36 AM
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Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:29 AM
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I would argue that maybe top-tier men see women as "not human," but merely a commodity. This is the modern society, post-gender roles. On the other hand, the vast majority of women don't even see men they are not attracted to/don't get anything from as human. In fact, you can see that a lot when women talk about what they find attractive in a man. He is nice, and sweet, and can express his feelings openly. These are all things they want from men they already find attractive, hence the confusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:18 AM
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That's a brilliant idea and it could actually work out really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:42 PM
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This would mean not warning girls that "men only want one thing". Well, whatever parents have been doing is not working. In fact, it does the opposite. If a man is genuinely kind, women assume he must be fake and with bad intentions. You can see it in the real world, and you can see it in this sub. However, if a man acts like a dick, he lives up to the low expectations set on him by women, and in their minds, comes across as genuine and exciting for all the wrong reasons. Society tells women tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:04 AM
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In a utopian world, the algorithm could "rate people" and only allow 7s to match with fellow 7s, 5s with 5s, etc. However, in that instance, women would leave the dating apps. Let's be honest, dating apps for women are what porn is for men. A fantasy world that keeps their hopes alive that one day it will be their life. It won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:54 AM
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Let's be real. Most of us experienced first-hand that being nice gets you nowhere, whereas treating women like dirt is considered exciting and actually works. Same looks, same everything, same person, different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:47 AM
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Correct. Women love to generalize regarding men. Now, let's flip it, and talk about African-Americans? Do they generalize here as well because they commit over 50% of violent crimes? No, that would be racist, of course. Somehow, it's socially acceptable to be misandrist, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:56 AM
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Sex is not the same for men and women. If she is having casual sex with Chad, she is lowering her value, and chances of a happy LTR in the future. I can just wish her best of luck for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:33 AM
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Chad doesn't like you. He only wants to get his rocks off. He is not even nice to you. Usually treats you like dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:00 AM
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When women say what they want in a man, they mean top-tier men, the men they are already attracted to. Due to hypergamy, these men are usually of higher value than the said women, so the women are usually insecure, intimidated, and nervous. Fanny flatters come to mind, etc. Remember that most men are invisible to women. Therefore, women do not lie when they say they want these things because if top-tier men act like sweet, nice guys, it means the women can domesticate them, so it equals the play…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:22 PM
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That's the thing. I am not invalidating your experience, and maybe you hooked up with your looks match, and you are the exception, but most women would say the guy they hooked up with wasn't all that great. That has to do with hypergamy and the fact that due to evolution, women are hardwired to be sexually attracted only to the most attractive men without even realizing it (that's why only 40% of men reproduced historically). It would also explain why the top-tier men are having most of the sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:18 PM
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Excellent post, IMO. I would add that the left is the party of the "collective", but only in the context of oppression Olympics. If you happen to be a heterosexual white guy, then nobody gives a shit about your struggles, even if you are piss poor, so why the hell would they care about the struggles in the dating market? They think we STILL live in a patriarchal world where women are oppressed, so they cater to them, which is absolutely mind-boggling since I would argue it's leaning the other wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:13 PM
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I would add that men are statistically way more likely to be a victim of a violent crime than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:55 PM
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Not sure if this is a serious response or an attempt to troll. Women hook up with Chads and then want to settle for a Beta-bux without all the crazy sex. Chad gets everything for free, and a Beta-Bux needs to pay for nowhere near as much as Chad got for free. If women were remotely consistent, men wouldn't complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:31 AM
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Because MEN BAD, and WOMEN GOOD. Seriously, though, way more women live in a fantasy world than men, given everything on a silver platter. If anything, it's the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:00 PM
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It's laughable how this is even a "debate." Why are we debating scientific facts based on evolution? It's the same with body count, the higher the body count, the more miserable people are, the higher the chance of a divorce, you name it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:59 PM
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That's a very good, comprehensive list, OP. I have met tons of women like that, totally incapable of discussing whatever their problem was. Creepy as hell. Especially since in these situations you don't find out what their problem was to begin with. I can only think of hoe_math and his explanation that according to women, a creep is someone who is A) not attractive in their eyes and B) unwilling to simp/give their time/resources. Seems viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:23 AM
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Children raised by single dads end up better than the ones raised by single moms, so I don't agree with your premise here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:28 AM
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Yes. Less women on the CC = women being happier without the P and D. At the same time, it would mean more men in general having "normal" (not run through) dating prospects = men being happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:30 PM
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Women have way higher physical standards than men, so women are more visual than men, not less. Yet, studies show criminals, abusers, etc. are more successful with women than the rest of the guys. An alpha widow, with a 1000 cock stare looking for some man to pay for her life. Women are just as capable of acting crazy, if not more, as men. I will make sure to let the 50% (by 2030) of single/childless women between the ages of 20-45 know. Refer to point 2. Sure, they are the worst. Organized, bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:30 PM
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So? It's not like men's sexual attraction to a woman would diminish so much if he thinks she had better if he's attracted to her in the first place Yes, men will not find a woman as attractive, hell, some men divorce women because they find out she had better and then find them even disgusting in extreme cases. Usually, it happens during the dating stage because the said men find out earlyish, but sometimes it does happen during the marriage, which makes the men cheat, or makes the women cheat i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:47 PM
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Guys,if you want a woman who enjoys sex then she’s out there having sex. You can enjoy sex exclusively in committed LTRs. Hell, my granny enjoys sexual activities with my grandad to this day, and they have only ever been with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:52 PM
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The woman who knows she is the prize. The woman who refuses to chase him. The woman who is unbothered when he threatens to leave and isn't scared to lose him. Sounds a little narcissistic = not high value. Men usually consider women high value when they are the prize, but they don't realize that, and they don't act all arrogant. Modest is the best way I can describe it. Not women who think they are "the prize" and refuse to make any effort. Guys also like it when women are into them and are scar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:48 PM
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Yeah. Women eventually consider men on their level once they realize guys "above" won't commit. That's why many men eventually find wives on their level lookswise or even above. The catch is that it's only after these women are done with "sowing their wild oats."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:32 PM
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No emotionally/mentally mature girl is going to date a bad boy/asshole. Not for a long period of time anyways. As in, girls ride the CC with the said assholes, but then want a BB? Agreed. Women vote with their pussy. Whoever gets casual sex is doing something right. I want a LTR, but not with girls settling for me. Therefore, it is fair to assume that being a pushy asshole works enough of the time for some men to continue behaving that way. You can just use it to attract girls for a LTR. Start o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:33 AM
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No. If it does happen, it's from women who used to ride the CC approaching potential BB candidates. Are there exceptions to this rule? Sure, but it's very rare. On the other hand, a lot of women don't grasp the idea that all they have to do is do nothing at all. Instead, they pursue Chads and then say they were "unlucky" in dating and complain they can't find anyone, "where are all the good men at" etc. All a woman has to do is sit back, relax, and tell dudes no sex without commitment, which wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:27 AM
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When I turn out to be normal and want to talk about music or travel they get confused. Man, this is worse than I thought. This sucks so badly. It's mad how so many women are this way. Sorry that you have to go through this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:57 AM
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I'm not your fucking trophy, or experiment to show everyone how woke you are. That's exactly what I suspected from my observations as an outsider. Thanks for all the insights, and again, it's a sad state of the world that a lot of women still see you as a "trophy." Straight up racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:54 AM
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They decide I'm too white for a black guy. They want the caricature version presented to them by pop culture. The thug that has "That Thang on 'em" Sorry to hear that. Once again, this sounds racist as hell if you ask me :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:51 AM
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Yeah, it sucks. It's dehumanizing. Like you are your own person, an individual, not your skin color, FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:22 PM
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As someone who has gotten a lot of attention from Asian women over the years, I have observed it had a lot to do with me being 6ft5. In Asia, Africa, or even South America, people are shorter on average than in Europe, for example (I am European). I got nowhere near as much attention from white women (no six-pack, just a dad bod and an average face), and I am white myself. Asian women really fetishized my height. Therefore, a lot of it had to do with my height since pretty much all of them never…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:57 PM
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Or what about white women who only go for black guys, but would refuse to date an Asian guy, for example? I have literally seen women say "No Asians" on Tinder but would say something like "Black men <wink face>." That's racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:38 PM
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It's very rare for a woman to voluntarily participate in the hook-up culture. However, lots of them are going from one situationship to another, and thus essentially riding the CC involuntarily. Most women have engaged in the hook-up culture between 1-4 times or so, so they get offended, saying there is no hook-up culture and they are not participating. Right, not participating anymore, or not voluntarily, but if most women in Western countries engaged in casual sex outside of a committed LTR, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:49 PM
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"but women under 25 don't have the agency to consent to relationships with older men and are still children!" ​ lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:00 PM
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Pretty much all of it, so: Women are more likely to think life is harder for them than it is for men. Men are more likely to give money to the opposite sex for nothing in return. Men care less about income than women. More women support cancel culture than men. Women are more likely to be insecure about themselves/life but also more likely to be very(over) confident about themselves. Women like tall men, and men like shorter women. Women feel more entitled in terms of physical appearance, as in,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:14 PM
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OP, you are awesome. This is a great contribution, so thank you for that. I tried to predict the answers every time without looking at the results, and I got it more or less right every time. Your results reinforce a lot of the talking points on the PPD, and it doesn't surprise me one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:48 AM
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Said the OP, without quoting any evidence himself. You answered your own question, OP. People don't want to waste time researching the same shit over and over again just because some stranger on the internet doesn't believe them. People will believe what they want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:41 AM
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This is such a good post. Women will be like: "I am curvy, have a cute face, and a marketing job, and I am mature, so that guy who hits the gym 5-6 times a week, is 6ft and above, and works in IT is my level. Hypergamy is not real." Curvy = overweight, as too many women equal curvy with having some fat on the ass or hips, not naturally nice ass and hips, without the weight. The cute face you're referring to is probably 5/10. Your marketing job sounds good but is probably only a bit above minimum…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:37 AM
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"Women in the 20s are still not real adults." Meanwhile, they vote, some fuck for several years already, get guns, star in porn, have PhDs, become emergency responders, you name it. Funnily enough, for every woman calling older men creepy because of their baggage, etc., I don't see the same women criticizing mid-30s women (with the sexual experience of an 80-year-old man) for going for a Billy Beta, who despite being their age, has a dating experience of a 16-year-old girl, and has no clue what'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:06 AM
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Like 93% of men get married at least once in their lives It's the Beta-bux situations that are likely to end up in divorce, knowing how high the divorce rate is, and a lot of the time, it's to do with this beta-bux dynamic. Add to that the amount of dead bedrooms and marriages where the man is not respected, and there you have it. Only a small percentage of these are happy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:38 AM
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Hottest women have extremely high standards, and men know this, so they don't get hit on as much. If you have a 9 woman, you will maybe see 8s, 9s, and 10s men hitting on her. If you have a 5/10 woman, everyone will hit on her. For sex only, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:31 AM
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In my opinion the solution to this issue is to not have sex with the other person until they are willing to define the relationship. If they leave, then they weren't what you were looking for. Women will use mental gymnastics and try to deflect in many ways, but it's as simple as that. If every woman applied this rule, this subreddit wouldn't exist and things would be healthy in dating again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:27 AM
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Why is it not being discussed here how common it is for women to choose to sleep with their platonic male friends The attractive ones, absolutely. The hypocrisy starts when they go on to say how it's creepy that Billy (the unattractive platonic friend) finds them attractive. In comparison, I think men tend to be flattered no matter who is into them. You will never hear a man say it's creepy because some girl (who is a friend) finds him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:22 AM
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The men after Harvard can make money and become beta-bux. Sad reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:05 PM
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I find it interesting that it is never taken into account that you can naturally develop feelings for friends, rather than having an exterior motive. If the guy is hot, then he must have developed feelings. If the guy is not hot, then he must have had exterior motives. Close thread :).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:43 PM
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I literally ask within the first three dates, so I don't waste my time if our preferences are compatible. If she is a 304, then that's not what I prefer. If she prefers a non-promiscuous lifestyle, then I carry on dating her. It's a simple concept, so anyone not getting it must be trolling. If there was a Gucci bag available for free for everyone, but you have to pay 1000$, that's a bad deal for the man. In the same way, if I am a 6/6/6 type of guy, I am getting all the HVW. If I lose my money, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:40 PM
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Women with the dead bedroom problem usually (exceptions include health, and other special circumstances) settle for a Beta they don't find attractive, having experienced sexually more exciting/more attractive guys in the past. If the guy happens to be the one refusing to sleep with his wife, it means he doesn't find her sexually attractive since perhaps she is the best he could have gotten, but not what he wanted/hoped for. There can be a lot of reasons, but I would say these two are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:21 PM
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One is a physical thing. The other is a arbitrary philosophical judgement. Also, didn't your links also suggest that higher body count for men also decreases marital satisfaction after 1? Men and women have different preferences. That's all. Also, yes, it applies to men as well, although women seem to value men with high body counts, so it's not the same effect (sexual dimorphism again). Call yourself agnostic all you want but the philosophy is entirely wrapped up in sexually anxious male suprem…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:14 PM
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I never said "encourage", I said it was creepy to think it lessens your DAUGHTER'S "sexual value" and the double standard vs your son. My daughter = a female, so it does diminish it. It's not a double standard because men and women are different and there is sexual dimorphism. For example, women like tall men, men don't like tall women. Men like and value virgin women, women mock virgin men, and so on. I actually always hated the fact women don't value virginity. It made my life miserable as a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:20 PM
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Yeah, it's easier said than done. I would attempt to share my own story, without making it about the kid specifically, and say how I used to struggle, but then I changed X, Y, and Z, and it made my life great. No questions asked because I wouldn't want the kid to notice or know that I know without them coming to me first. Then, I hope my kid is intelligent enough to apply the advice, or I would try to encourage them to do certain things like working out, joining a sports club, etc., that will im…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:59 PM
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I find it creepy to encourage your child, especially a girl, to engage in casual sex. I would want my future daughter to have the best chance possible to find a committed, HVM. That decreases with the number of sexual partners for many reasons. It's obvious to me as a man. Also, it's been discussed here ad nauseam and supported by various studies: https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886916300964 https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:52 PM
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Agreed. As long as the girl is not engaging in the CC activities, I wouldn't be worried. It would mean she is vetting and looking for the right partner, and her value in the dating market is not diminishing. On the other hand, if the boy gets no action whatsoever by about 18, and I don't even mean sex (that would be a concern by 20 or so), I would be pretty worried and likely intervene in a way to help him through some good conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:41 AM
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Slippery slope and a very dangerous, radical ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:27 AM
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Indeed, in a large meta-analysis, Eagly and Carli (1981) found that women are typically more persuadable than men. Notably, this gender difference emerged specifically for conformity. Eagly (2013) provides some ideas about why women might be more susceptible to social influence compared to men Social media marketing: is it more efficient for targeted men or women segmentDr Iqbal Sayeed08 Feb 2023**-**EPRA international journal of multidisciplinary researchPDF Research suggests that social media …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:26 AM
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Indeed, in a large meta-analysis, Eagly and Carli (1981) found that women are typically more persuadable than men. Notably, this gender difference emerged specifically for conformity. Eagly (2013) provides some ideas about why women might be more susceptible to social influence compared to men Social media marketing: is it more efficient for targeted men or women segmentDr Iqbal Sayeed08 Feb 2023-EPRA international journal of multidisciplinary researchPDF Research suggests that social media mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:24 AM
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Correct. There are many studies on it. Women are more prone to outside influences than men. Hence, women are targeted much more. Women react based on feelings and emotions much more than men. Science backs it up. On the other hand, men are bombarded with the promotion of plus-sized women or masculine women, yet the vast majority still prefers feminine women or athletic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:28 PM
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Men want new pussy very quickly after getting a girl (no matter how good the sex is) This may be the case most of the time, but whether a man will act upon it is entirely up to the type of woman he is with. Was she a virgin when he started sleeping with her? Is she a bitch or a loving and caring partner? These things make all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:23 PM
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Great analogy, but I would add that once you eat healthy for a while, you end up missing that pizza or a burger that you like the thought of. The only way to prevent this is to not engage in it. You can't miss what you have never experienced, IMO. That's why I am not giving my future children processed sugar for as long as possible and encouraging them to stay away from casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:38 PM
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Women are only starting to experience the effects of this about now, and it will get significantly worse in the future. The pendulum has swung too far, but it will regulate itself once women realize they have been fed a lie, the same way men have realized this about 10-15 years ago. I presume it will happen between 2030-2040, but sadly it will take time for it to get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:35 PM
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I have had the abortion conversation a lot over the years. About 50% of men were in favor, the other 50% were not, but even the ones supporting the idea, in general, were like you do you, but it's not for me, thus not wanting to be with a woman who had an abortion. There is a reason the vast majority of women keep it a secret and never tell the men. It's because they know they would be dumped. The moral of this story is that you have to vet closely. Not being honest with your partner on such big…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:25 PM
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his idea of enforced marriage and babies by 25 This is just a piece of generalized advice for women who want a HVM and do not want to end up like those Hollywood actresses going from boyfriend to boyfriend and ending up single and childless/ or as a single mom in the end in the 30s/40s and beyond. Casual sex is not the only way to ruin one's chances of finding a suitable partner. Having said that, if you are 25 and never had a boyfriend because you are vetting, working on yourself, etc., there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:02 PM
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Beta-bux at work. Alpha widows think the betas should be lucky to have them. Thus, they boss them around. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Either the alpha widows will dump their asses because they don't respect them, or the betas will have enough at a point and "wake up."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:25 AM
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So true. I never heard a man say "I wish my wife slept with more people." It's laughable that this thread even exists. Might as well create a thread "does money hold value?" or "does healthy food hold value?" Then, one could strawman and say so many people eat badly, so I guess healthy food doesn't hold value haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:14 AM
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"I just want a LTR with a sweet guy who will treat me right" Proceeds to go on a CC with criminal Chads. Then, she hits her 30s and pretends to be a virgin Mary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:04 AM
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Yes, exactly. I think the main difference is that men are honest about it. They make it known that these women are for sex only, whereas women pretend they "prefer" these guys over the so-called fuck boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:22 AM
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Women here are virtue-signaling and saying what they would like to settle down for, and that is not a player type of guy. These are not the guys they are sleeping with. Now, ask them if they have ever slept with one of those player-type guys, and the answer will be almost always yes. They might not like them, but they are sure as hell attracted to them. Ask any woman I have ever slept with ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:57 PM
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Same thing happened to me. The moment you get a girlfriend, suddenly you have options left, right and middle. When you are single, it's much harder, ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:52 PM
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A little bit of both. Because he gets a lot of attention, he is confident and extroverted. Talks to tons of women all the time, and he always seems to know exactly what to say. It helps he is conventionally very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:48 PM
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This is such an important point. That's why the vast majority of answers here miss your biological/evolutionary POV. Perhaps it's on purpose for virtue signaling purposes. I would bet all my money that if we were to discuss the sort of men women here have slept with in the past, they would be nothing like what they are describing. Yet, these are the men that get commitment-free sex from women = high value. The majority of women here describe what they would want from a long-term hubby and not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:22 AM
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They do. It's the top 10% of men. They get more attention than attractive women, even. I have a friend that I have known for years. We go out pretty much every weekend. He goes out with his work friends during the week as well. I have yet to have him with us for at least 1 night because he always ends up with a girl. Always. It's been like that for him since high school. He is in his late 20s now, so there you have it. I am pretty sure some movie stars/celebrities have 4-digit numbers over the y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:30 AM
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Correct. I am 6'5, and I have a couple of friends even taller than me in my group, and some are significantly shorter, all the way to 5'4. Men do pick their friends based on shared interests, though. We all play tennis, for example. We have guys with 3 digit body count in the group and virgins as well. Ages between 24 to 34 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:09 AM
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In Scotland and England specifically (various cities, clubs, you name it), everyone is hooking up. That's based on my 7-year experience there, clubbing 5 days a week (3 degrees, so I had a lot of time :)). Even more so than in America, IMO. Highly doubt it's that much different in Ireland. I have been there about twice a year for the last several years, and it looks similar to me based on the night outs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:52 AM
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That sounds great, and I am happy for you guys. To address my point, college athletes get a lot of attention, so they are less likely to commit. They are not bad guys, and I know this because I was (back in the day) one of them. However, in my experience, more often than not, it ends in a heartbreak for the girl. I have seen this a lot over the years. While we were having fun and clearly not looking for anything serious, in many cases, the girls thought it was going somewhere. It happened to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:42 AM
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So they can fulfill their fantasy of life like in "Pretty Woman." Have a lifestyle of a 304 until a white knight in shiny armor saves them. Age-gap relationships make it very difficult to make that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:01 PM
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Don't have sex with guys without dating them for a few months first. It doesn't matter what your peers do. Most of them are sabotaging their lives in various ways. Don't pick loud guys who don't get nervous around girls and always know what to say. Stay away from all the athletes/party goers in school/college. These guys will use you, you will not enjoy it because they don't give a shit about you, tell everyone about you, and you will never hear from them again. Focus on the nerdy guys who do we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:39 PM
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Hell, no. No matter how attractive the woman it's not worth it. I believe no man would be ok with that. Having said that, there are a lot of men out there who have no clue. Women take advantage of them. My brother's wife tried to sleep with me a few times over the years. I tried to talk to him about it, and he just verbally attacked me, saying how ridiculous I was. I look a lot like her 1st boyfriend and nothing like my brother. She is clearly not sexually attracted to him, but he is oblivious t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:36 PM
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I don't know. In my opinion, it depends. It may vary on a case-to-case basis. The baggage is key here. A high body count woman at 20 can already be at a stage when it's too late. On the other hand, sometimes women in their late 20s haven't done all that much wrong, so they can still secure happy LTR in the future. I am generalizing, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:21 PM
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Correct. Also, studies show that the number of sexual partners is directly related to the divorce risk as it increases with every said partner. A lot of women here cope because they used to go after Chads and now say it meant nothing to them since they settled for a Beta. Nevertheless, the best, happiest marriages where both parties feel fulfilled and not miserable like you often see, and there is no cheating, etc., are the ones who married young. My grandparents have been married for 70 years n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:16 AM
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It affects the dating market. The woman above used a simple common sense logic to vet, thus securing an adequate partner. However, there are a lot of women out there who don't follow any rules and then go on the CC and become undateable in the future. Therefore, if you respect yourself, you are way more likely to get this respect from men. For example, the woman above would be most certainly very dateable if she were to enter the dating market again. She displayed some high-value behavior, so me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:12 PM
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Your vetting system worked beautifully. I wish more younger women followed this simple rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:34 PM
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Don't really care about the depth because if a pussy is too shallow, you are hurting her cervix, and it doesn't feel great. However, width is important. That's the loose/tight issue, and it's key to what it feels like. Sometimes it's like pumping air, and other times it squeezes your dick real hard, and it feels awesome. You can train your muscles to improve them, but of course, every woman is different and naturally more/less tight to begin with. That's why a lot of men prefer petite women. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:15 AM
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Unless you think the only thing that woman is good for is sex then her having a ons before she met you in irrelevant. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but we will have to agree to disagree. Most men value self-respect, and women decide how they want to conduct themselves. If it happens to be a behavior generally not desirable by men, it will backfire. Men in general are attracted to purity, women without the promiscuous past. It's a preference most men share. In the same way most women lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:25 PM
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Funnily enough, a lot of promiscuous women want to stop all that in a LTR. Just today, in another thread, a woman asked me what's wrong with the fact she used to give it away right away for jokes and now wants a proper investment and commitment, and she still doesn't plan on being promiscuous in a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:29 AM
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I agree with this. I also believe it actually extends way beyond the Disney movies. Think of movies like Pretty Woman, 50 Shades of Grey, 10 Things I Hate About You, She Is The Man, and many more I can't think of right now. A lot of these promote the idea that if you put in the work, somehow you can get the guy leagues above you, turn the bad boy into a good guy, etc. In the real world, it just turns into repeated pump-and-dump scenarios, but a lot of women act like these movie characters anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:59 AM
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and simply fed yourself depressing, victimizing narratives. This is life for the majority of men, though. It's not "narratives." It's their literal day-to-day existence. I think these sort of statements invalidate their experiences, which is why they "rant' a lot. I also don't believe that guys literally mean all women. They refer to the majority, and of course, there are always exceptions to every rule. Nevertheless, society would be much better off if the majority were the "good apples" and on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:49 AM
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Because once the guy finds out that, hypothetically, you used to sleep with guys on 1st dates, and now you don't, he would feel like he is getting the short stick of the deal. The worst of the two worlds because not only did the girl not display self-respect before, but also he is not even benefiting the same way other guys did. It's like hearing that you can buy a Gucci bag for 100 dollars only to find out that it's a 1000 for you, and you are not even the 1st owner. You would be pissed off, fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:19 AM
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Respect and hats off to you. Surely, it's a matter of time until you find your perfect match.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:37 PM
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Have sex whenever you want, but know that actions have long-term consequences. Good or bad, you are responsible for your own decisions and outcomes. Thus, if you are confused and unsure about your decision-making or the intentions of the person in question, the longer you wait, the safer it is for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:45 PM
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33, female, single, I still very much practice the 90 day rule That's fantastic to hear. Now, here is the most important question regarding this strategy. Have you always engaged in this tactic, or were there any exceptions in the past? The reason why I am asking is because it doesn't work if you didn't do it from the start. In such circumstances, it backfires more than sleeping with a guy right away would.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:41 PM
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Occasionally, they do, for hookups. However, I think a lot of women in their 30s are way more focused on commitment, as many of them spent the previous decade dealing with guys who just wouldn't commit to them. Hence, they do not want to "waste time." Therefore, they prioritize commitment, and they are not getting that from younger guys (of course, there are exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:29 PM
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A lot of women seem to think men and women operate under the same rules, so they project a lot. That's why the OP's post is so out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:43 AM
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If she were to go for a 40+, average height and weight guy with an average income, her first date number 201 would probably be her last first date ever. The guy would have to be a league or two under her, though, because it sounds like she is a high-n-count woman, who has been on a CC for more than a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:37 AM
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It's funny because a lot of younger women (late teens, early 20s) chase older men (mid-20s, late 20s), but then, when they hit 30s, they suddenly oppose age-gap relationships. If a 6/10 man in his mid-30s had a chance to date a fellow 6/10 woman when they were both 20, he wouldn't be single in his 30s. The problem is, when such a man was 20, he was probably largely invisible to women who were chasing Chads, a lot of the times older Chads. Hence, why should he settle for the same women who spent …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:25 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:38 AM
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Alpha fucks Beta bucks. The ugly guys with the hot girlfriends a) pay for them and/or b) got these girls after they were run through by Chads and have a lot of emotional/physical baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:36 AM
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29M, in my circle, guys discuss it all the time. Especially the ones doing well with women, so being picky is possible, thus relevant for some of us. As soon as any woman enters a conversation/room, the whole vibe changes and the guys reverse to their more PC style of talk. I have a very good idea when it comes to the body count of every single one of the girls any of my male friends is seeing, and most of my female friends. You don't always specifically ask for numbers, but you do ask for thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:01 PM
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Lock and key analogy explains it all. The lock and key analogy refers to the fact that it's an accomplishment for a man to sleep with a woman because it requires at least one or more qualities like good looks, status, money, etc. Meanwhile, women simply need to exist, and they can still have sex with guys as much as they want, even with the ones way above them in the looks department. Therefore, any activity requiring effort is an accomplishment aka the key, or for example, having a fit body thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:49 PM
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2 has been completely destroyed in the 21 century. Apply 2, and most of the problems for both genders suddenly go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:08 PM
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I have to agree with this. Even girls from good households with healthy family backgrounds get influenced by this toxic culture we live in. Women sabotage each other all the time by embracing their delusions (it's not you, it's him, you are a queen), promoting ONS, and that leads to emotional and physical baggage, and generally promoting being a boss-bitch with all the masculine traits. Almost all women are perfectly well equipped from early adulthood to find a suitable match and build a healthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:06 PM
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Men have not. I agree with this, but the thing is, I think a lot of women keep the vicious cycle alive by going after these men. They keep on choosing them. Pre-selection and stuff. On the other hand, male virgins are looked down upon. I feel like if we could somehow make women (the majority) appreciate male virginity, it would sufficiently discourage men from sleeping around. We should also be looking down on men sleeping around. For example, it should make them less desirable in the eyes of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:10 PM
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Should have been a movement to discourage men from sleeping with dozens of women instead of going on about how we can do that too I have upvoted your comment because, in my opinion, you have good intentions, but let me ask you this. Do we teach children not to accept candy from strangers, or do we teach strangers not to offer it to children? The answer is both. We, and rightly so, police the creeps hanging around children, but at the same time, we do our best to make sure our children don't acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:31 PM
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It benefits the top 20% of men, especially the top 5%. However, it doesn't benefit the majority of men, as in the past, they didn't have to compete with the top-tier men. A "6" man could date and marry a fellow "6" woman with little to no baggage. Such women did not have a history with Chad like the "modern" women, asking where are all the good men at, calling men players, assholes, etc. In my view, women shot themselves in the foot (and ruined it for 80+% of men) and will struggle increasingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:03 PM
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Yeah. A lot of women overestimate their SMV value and underestimate the guy's SMV value. Hence, 99% of comments from women said the guy was not all that. They are virtue-signalling to be perceived a certain way. When they say right time and right place, they mean the right guy. I have literally been that guy to hook up with some women on a night out and do everything with them (use your imagination), only to find out a few years later she is doing none of that with her long-term Billy-Beta boyfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:44 AM
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It's spreading around Europe as well. I have spent several years in the UK, Germany, and Poland. It's there to varying degrees. The UK is the worst, pretty much like the US. The UK is followed by Germany, and then Poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:32 PM
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Facts!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:00 AM
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A lot of women feel entitled to these men, hence their reaction. They were told by modern society that once they go through all the "ugly ducks" (Chads), Prince Charming (white knight to save them) will appear. By their late 20s, they are "tired" (due to baggage), so they think: "Fine, that shy friend of mine for the last decade can get a shot with me now." They view such males as lower than them. Therefore, they are outraged by the idea that not only they might not want them anymore but also th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:56 AM
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The younger you are, the lower your body count, the higher your SMV, the higher the quality/quantity of men you can attract, the higher the standards you can afford to have, the better the chances of success. When can you get a better job, when you are desperate for one because you are out of money, your qualifications are low, and you don't have the time to look, and there are a lot of other candidates, or when you are not desperate, are qualified, have the security of money, have less competit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:03 PM
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OP, you are right. Too many men make the mistake of listening to the advice given by women as young adults. It's the gynocentric society that we live in. The majority of teachers are women, and women are the most influential figures in our childhood. Later on, most men realize that they should have sought out the advice given by men who are successful with women. Don't ask fish how to be a good fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:38 AM
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When they tell you late bloomer, they mean the women who have been through the cock-carousel. Somehow, they never need a brain to go through tens, hundreds of hook-ups, but then they tell you the brain only appeared at 25 to look for a committed, LTR partner. The under-25 lack of brain stage is often enough for them to go close to 6 figures or do a PhD, but not enough to know it's important to find a LTR partner at your physical peak since that's what all men are after.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:05 AM
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Pin this post. Western "modern" women sleeping around since they are about 12, in therapy by their 20s, tell normal young men that they are the issue because they are not toxic Chads? Not everyone is fucked up, and luckily some people are still normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 09:39 AM
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OP, HVM can get a lot of girls, so why would they settle for one woman? Even if she is a 10, the guy in question can have a few 10s, and if 10s don't accept it, he can have a few 8s, and 9s. Men are designed by biology to spread their seed as much as possible, so you usually only see HVM settle when they hit 40s/mid-40s. For example, James Franco, Ryan Phillippe, guys like that. Then, they go for women 15 years younger than them and settle. Funnily enough, HVM have a mating strategy similar to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:00 PM
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That's a great point. The vast majority of all the actresses in Hollywood, even the attractive ones, are all single or divorcees. Additionally, if you look at Victoria's Secret models etc., the majority are single and single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:52 AM
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Feminist women tend to want privilege of women, power of men, and accountability of children. Yes, it is very hypocritical. They only cherry-pick things that are beneficial for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:04 PM
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Male virgins = low sexual market value Female virgins = high sexual market value Men and women tend to have completely opposite traits that make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:00 PM
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Same here. Close to my 21st birthday, I was like, fuck it, and had sex with a random girl who didn't even get my name right the next morning. Probably the least attractive girl I have ever slept with as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:57 PM
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Every single woman in this thread blaming it on the OP, who is clearly a victim of a female predator. The same women who jump to defend any woman, saying the evil men manipulate them, take advantage of them, prey on them, etc. Imagine this was the other way around, and we were talking about a 42-year-old married man trying to impregnate a 22-year-old, having convinced them to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:22 AM
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OP, you are a woman who dated an Alpha when you were younger, and now concluded that Alpha sucks because such an Alpha has options at all times, so you now want a Beta. In other news, the water is wet. Of course, you are right, but the problem is that 99% of young women will start by dating Alphas and then attempt to settle for a Beta. For as long as that remains to be the case, the dating market sucks for everyone. The only solution is for women to go for their looksmatch from the get-go. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:05 AM
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Vast majority of women have little to no interest in it. Women may occasionally have had the odd ONS in college Yeah, OP here hasn't mentioned that the same "vast majority" have engaged in casual sex in the past, whether they understood it was just that or not, and that is enough to completely ruin the dating market. That's regardless of whether they have enjoyed it or not, and most women do not enjoy it. You would think they would pass some advice onto the younger women, but they don't. Commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:51 PM
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I agree with all this. Having said that, Asian men are still largely looked down upon when it comes to dating. When it comes to minorities, you have black men on the other side of all this. They benefited from their pop-culture image of being cool and attractive, their porn portrayal of being well-endowed, etc. Music aside, I have seen a ton of movies with Black men portrayed as intelligent, attractive, love-interests to women of all races. On the other hand, there are virtually no movies, or ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:01 AM
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Correct. A lot of women do it already IRL. I have a feeling OP knows this already and predicted (like we all did) women here would say hell no etc., so he can then ask: so why do so many women do just that out there in the real world? Listen to what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:23 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phPXTWJhnYM
/r/MensRights08/12/23 08:41 PM
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BB relationships at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:34 PM
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Financial abortion would be nice. You know exactly what I mean, yet you're defending that silly statement saying men have reproductive rights. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:27 PM
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Let's tie fallopian tubes for women. I am making a point that women obviously have way more reproductive rights than men do. We don't an option of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:03 PM
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First of men have reproductive rights…..they just don’t want to act accordingly. They do? Ok then, let's ban all abortions, so women can have all the reproductive rights that men currently have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:24 AM
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To flip the coin, in my experience, the vast majority of women base their reality on rom-coms. I am sure Chad will change for the average plain Jane, and they will live happily ever after. The point is that both men and women are guilty of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:44 PM
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the men I dated showed me differently All credit goes to you. In my opinion, that's what most men want, but too many women pick the minority that's only after sex since they are spoiled with a lot of attention. The vast majority of men are not like that, so they value developing connections that lead to relationships with women. Just like you said it: men want more than sex, they want me to appreciate them, love them for who they are. ​ At first it was hard, because I didn't think I had anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:01 AM
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Shit, my mother painted girls to be innocent majestic virtuous sensitive unicorns at the mercy of evil men. Same here. I don't think she did it maliciously, but it was merely her naive, blue-pilled nature and a complete lack of comprehension of the modern dating world. I didn't have any sisters or close female relatives, so I was completely clueless for the longest time. fathers trying to paint boys as basically evil to their daughters I think that's bad as well, and I think a lot of mothers bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:47 AM
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If you were raped, report it to the police. Otherwise, you are allowing other women to be taken advantage of the same way you were. In my opinion, u/DietTyrone has given you some of the best, most constructive advice I have ever seen on this subreddit, so I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. He could have just told you that you fucked up and that you need to go for guys much lower than you in the SMV department, and it's going to be difficult to make any LTR work anyway with this sort of baggage. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:36 AM
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OP, you make some good points, but there are two aspects I would like to challenge here. Firstly, whereas you say men have it better long-term, they ONLY have it better if they put in the work. Women have it better short-term, and in fact, it's miles better than what a man will ever experience, no matter the work they put in. Women, by default, even average ones, have hundreds of options. Maybe 1% of men will ever experience having hundreds of options, ever. Secondly, A well-kept 30-year-old man…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:12 AM
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Yes. A lot of women lack accountability because society allows them. The majority doesn't self-reflect on anything, and it's always the other guy's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:23 PM
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prudish churchgoers, people married to disabled men, career-oriented geeky STEMgirls A lot of these still went for Chad in the past, though. Of course, there are some women out there who picked their looks match at a young age, a guy they actually had something in common with. All that, without ever going for Chad, and have been with that one guy ever since. They are wonderful women. Nevertheless, statistically, that's a minority, sadly. Maybe 1 in 10 women I know is like that. 9/10 claim they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:55 PM
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This. A lot of women do not seem to understand that meeting up for drinks from time to time, and having sex at the end of the night does not make you exclusive in any way. For me, it's a FWBs, not dating, because I have never once expressed any desire to be in a committed relationship with such a person. I have never wanted anything serious to do with her and never wanted any public/family-oriented activities. It's always a bar/club/sex or netflix+sex. The bottom line is, at a certain point, I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:03 PM
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I couldn't date a modern feminist or a woke progressive. Otherwise, anyone, simply center-left or center-right is fine. I am all for rights and responsibilities, and equality of opportunity, but not the equality of outcome kind of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:38 PM
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Other than the attention or the boyfriend benefits, I have noticed a weird behavior where when you start dating a woman more attractive than the girl you are friends with, the friend gets really weird about it. It's like a "how dare you" vibe. The interesting part is that the said girl never wanted anything more than friends. I can only justify it with the fact that women are more prone to having their judgment affected by their social circles than men. They want what they cannot have sort of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:28 AM
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I actually think it's the other way around. Men prioritize looks in women, so when they are judging themselves, they mostly consider their actual looks. On the other hand, women value jobs, power, status, etc. way more, so I have personally seen women saying stuff like, "I have a master's degree, a good job, and interesting hobbies, and also my friends (female) tell me I am beautiful, so I must be at least a 7." This couldn't be more wrong. I have a master's degree as well, and I work in finance…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:17 AM
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but most men will always care. It's a preference. This is like saying that if women finally started to like short, bald, fat men, the men wouldn't have any issues anymore, and everyone would be happy. Nevertheless, here is the catch: women wouldn't be happy. That's not what they want, and they deserve to go after what they want. Also, men can't even help height or baldness, and I am saying this as a 6ft5 man without balding issues. My rule is, don't judge p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:49 PM
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What is a mystery is why men do not want to get laid with sex workers ? It's a win-win, guys get sex, girls get money. They do, which is why the sex industry is one of the biggest in the world. I think guys on this sub mostly complain about the lack of relationship-material options and the fact that, for all the talk about equality, as you say, a lot of men need to pay to have casual sex options like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:58 AM
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I see where you are coming from. Your average 23-year-old man will appeal to women more than your average 18-year-old man. This is due to several confidence-related traits men gain with age as well as usually better, more masculine looks and status. Having said that, if you take a virgin woman, and she finds a guy she finds physically attractive, with a good personality, on his way to success professionally, then I can't help but think, why on earth would she break up with him/cheat on him? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:31 AM
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This is a fantastic take. Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:22 AM
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Of course, I largely agree with all of this. Firstly, you mentioned a 16-year age gap. My post deals with the common problems for teenage/early 20s girls just entering the dating market and not knowing who to choose. I am assuming one of you was not 18 and the other 34, but even then, sometimes it could work. I just think it would be an exception and not the rule. In the 20s, and even more in the 30s, the age gap becomes less relevant. Also, if a man has more sexual experience, it's more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:55 AM
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Very insightful. This is exactly how I see it as well, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:31 AM
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Sadly, I agree with all of this. A lot of the time, such women accuse men of being "insecure." They do not understand the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:28 AM
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Sounds very reasonable, and it's great to hear that it works in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:26 AM
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Exactly. Of course, I would just add that it only really works as intended as long as the woman in question has been consistent in her dating life and making all the guys work for it. It doesn't necessarily need to be the same amount of time because no two humans are the same, but the rule needs to make everyone work for it. Looks shouldn't have to matter here, merely somebody's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:24 AM
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This is an interesting point. It could be revolutionary and turn the dating market on its head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:21 AM
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A woman is always in demand. In demand for sex, but for a relationship? I am not so sure. From a certain age, I would argue that women have a hard time getting the relationship that they want. A lot of women are involuntarily single and childless, and it's going to get much worse by 2030 and even more so by 2040. You are the one with a problem dude. Not really. I used to have problems with getting sex, but as I hit my 20s and learned how to navigate the market and use my attributes, it's only re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:20 AM
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Think about how often you see a couple where there’s a below average man with a beautiful girlfriend, and usually it’s never vise versa. This is because men and women don't perceive attraction the same way. For men, only looks are important in generating physical attraction. For women, it's power, dominance, social status, money, smoothness (how well does he do with women), the dark-triad, and looks. For example, look up Henry Kissinger (average looks at best). He used to sleep with absolute 10/…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:32 AM
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Excellent post, OP. The bottom line is that everyone is entitled to their standards, also known as choices, that come with consequences, good or bad. Jhon needs to understand that finding someone matching his values is his responsibility. Jane needs to understand that she is responsible for herself and what she chooses, and just like Jhon, she is not owned anything just because of her background. Whether we like the outcome or not, that's on us. On a side note, it would help to eliminate toxic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:42 PM
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This. In my experience, a lot of women think they have been simply "unlucky" in love and never ever look at their choices, etc. Then, the same women give the younger women all sorts of bad advice, hoping they will be more "lucky." Even the ones that ended up not single, and settled for a Beta, often trash talk their husbands (despite the fact these guys often entirely finance their lives, etc.), not being aware that they are very lucky to be with them, and shitting on somebody they choose to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:59 AM
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Women all want different things. We don't all care about "tall, good career (income amount based on location), fit, social, charming, confident, above average face," etc. ​ Here is the key question. Was the above always irrelevant to you? Or was there a time in your life when you chose these things, at least once in your life? If not, and you have been consistent your whole life, I salute you. That's fantastic. Otherwise, and I hope it's not the case, it's a typical AF/ BB situation, which would…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:10 PM
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Nah I think women are pretty realistic if they seek marriage. Bingo. That's the problem. When they don't seek marriage (at their peak), they just spend their time with Chads on the carousel. The problem is a lot of women act like they are Stacys when they are plain Janes in their 20s, and then they are shocked that at 30+, there are "no good men out there." They want the same guys they have been rejecting for over a decade. These guys probably spent their 20s increasing their SMV and would never…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:36 PM
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Yes, actually 6'6" is statistically the most appealing height there is. Unless you are a lanky dude. Then, I understand it doesn't have the same effect. Look at the graph below. I am actually 6ft5, so I know from experience that out of all my hook-ups (30+), almost all of them were exclusively into me due to my "bigness." Height + good physique go a long way. I have a 5/10 face at best, but especially the smaller girls (less than 5'6") dig my height big time. Having said that, height on its own …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:17 PM
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Bro, aren't you that 6ft7 guy? If you are that tall, and you have a good physicality as you say, you should be getting matches all the time because you are at least a 7, surely. The fact that you are not just shows how fucked up OLD is. Of course, there is racism at play as well. I have literally seen a lot of girls say stuff in their bios like BLM supporter etc., but also "no Asians." The hypocrisy is unreal. Absolutely fucking disgusting behavior. I good friend of mine is tall, jacked, and has…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:03 AM
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I have never assumed for a second that I am going meet high-class women on Tinder. I was just replying to another person asking where have I seen all the single mothers. You are, of course, right. Tinder is like looking for a future wife/husband in a nightclub. Pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:29 AM
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In Glasgow, Scotland, there are lots of them. For example, on Tinder, 1 in 3 of my matches was a single mom aged 18-30. Also, I met a lot of these women on nights out in clubs, bars, or pubs. None of them ever had a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:58 PM
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Exactly. The gynocentric society that we live in sees things as follows: problems affecting women - systemic issues problems affecting men - personal issues
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:52 AM
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but if I got my gf pregnant and died, I would want another man to be there for her and my kid I think this is an important distinction. Circumstances matter. I would never date a single mom who happened to become one as a result of recklessness. However, I would have no problem dating one under the circumstances that you described. The death of a partner means she did nothing wrong and is of high value. Riding the Chad carousel and getting impregnated? Low value, so no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:12 AM
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Numbers aside, I just go by personal experience and also what other men say. From a man's perspective, sometimes it is noticeable. I would imagine it's the same for women and penis size. Having said that, a lot of men and women probably have somewhat similar genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:19 PM
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Once again, nobody denies vaginas stretch or come back to its original form or have muscles that can be trained. The point is every vagina is different by default. The average linear length of the vagina is 62.7 mm with a relatively large range (40.8–95 mm). Lengths: 6.9 to 14.8 cm (2.7 to 5.8 in); widths: 4.8 to 6.3 cm (1.9 to 2.5 in); introital diameters: 2.4 to 6.5 cm (0.94 to 2.56 in). Each person's vagina, which is the internal female genitals, and the vulva, which is the external part, are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:09 PM
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Biology. Younger people, both men and women, produce more "youthful" substances in our bodies. For the same reason, our bodies are stronger and regenerate faster when we are young. Various things like that. For example, increased collagen production helps thicken vaginal tissues and improve elasticity. Younger vaginas have also less wear and tear. Thinner and smaller women, in general, have smaller vaginas. Don't know the science on this one, but less fat or a basic anatomical difference in size…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:11 AM
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They absolutely vary in size. Google it. Of course, that doesn't mean that you can't do anything about it. You are correct about the muscles, they play a part as well and you can train them. I think some people here refer to anatomical differences. Some women are, by default, just small, so even when aroused, it's much "smaller" and "tighter" than with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:04 AM
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I would immediately break up with these guys. They sound like major assholes and walking red flags. That's not the way you are supposed to treat someone that you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:59 AM
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Exactly. I don't think any guy ever would, for example, shame a virgin for the way her pussy looks. Not a chance. It's the promiscuity. I am strongly against shaming things that people can't control. You are born with a certain dick or a particular pussy. You can't change that. I think it's unfair to make fun of it. I would, however, make fun of the factors people can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:47 AM
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This body shaming joke can be reversed. Even a 747 looks small when you're flying to the grand canyon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:37 AM
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Exactly. It's crazy that we live in a society where some women do not understand basic anatomy. Dicks have different sizes, and so do vaginas. The differences are significant. I am speaking from experience as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:35 AM
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Im seeing in USA majority of adults are still married 67% I don't question that. I also believe that the vast majority of men can easily get married. The problem is (which is why this sub exists) a lot of women only want to marry them, having spent their peak years trying to get commitment from "Chads," and only later on in life with all the baggage that comes with it. They didn't want all these men when they were at their peak. Only when their options fade they give "normal" people (not the top…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:43 PM
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that only the six foot tall guy is getting girlfriends. Look at how many people are married. Vast majority of guys getting girlfriends young and getting married to women who are not settling down for them and have no baggage are the guys over 6 ft. I am 6ft5, so I know how this works. If it wasn't for my height, I would be totally screwed. Every single woman I have ever attracted was primarily into my "bigness." Most men get married or get a girlfriend eventually, but these are the AF / BF cases…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:32 PM
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I agree with you, OP. In fact, having the same group of people as your core "friends" prevents you from meeting a lot of new people and growing as a person. This is because people tend to surround themselves with the same sort of people. That's why a lot of women end up dating the same type of guy time and time again. It's the same mistake. Therefore, even if your group "accepts" new members, chances are they are all very alike. I bounced from one friend group to another my whole life, so I maxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:21 PM
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What women think makes them attractive to men is not what men see as attractive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxbqi7Xx0WU I mostly agree with the rating chosen by the men, but I side with the narrator. I would also switch the blonde and the black girl. This video is obviously anecdotal, but I have seen a lot of it IRL, and I bet many of you have seen it as well. For example, women put the shy, cute girl last. Not to mention, they were not supposed to factor in personality when discussing looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:10 PM
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If you ask men and women, you will get different answers that don't add up. A lot of women seem to be under the impression that going out for drinks and sex after is "dating." It isn't. It's a casual hook-up. Dates do not have the goal of immediate sex, so in that regard, I don't think too many people go on dates anymore. Not the ones that don't involve sex anyway. Few people actively pursue getting to know somebody, aka "dating" these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:16 PM
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A lot of women spend their 20s decreasing their SMV to men, and increasing their expectations. What can go wrong...
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:27 AM
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This is a generation of AF/BB. The divorce rates in 10-15-20 years will be skyrocketing. If she won't cheat, he will. That, on top of the single and childless women by 2030 and 2040 respectively. The generation of our grandparents is the last normal one. Most of our parents are already fucked up, so I can't even inagine the generation of OLD and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:25 AM
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Excellent comment. I got downvoted today for suggesting that a sexless marriage is not a marriage. Marriage is a social contract, and working out how to fulfill it is a part of the marital obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:55 AM
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A lot of responses in this thread are so blissfully ignorant it's not even funny. This thread is just further evidence as to why by 2030, we will have the highest (close to 50%) single and childless rates among women in the 25-44 bracket in the history of the world, and by 2040, even more than that. The sad part is that nearly half the women over the age of 40 are on anti-depressants as it is, the same women who thought they had time, rode the carousel, and now are single or unhappy with a Beta.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:34 AM
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Of course you are right, but I would just clarify that studies show women hit their peak and are the most desirable to men of all ages between 18-24, not 26-28. A lot of women between 26-28 spent the last 10 years chasing Chad and have all sorts of undesirable baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:47 AM
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Chapeau! For a 37-year-old, of course, it makes perfect sense. I also try to respect certain boundaries and not take advantage of anyone vulnerable, so sometimes younger women (18-21) do not meet the basic maturity test for me as well.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 10:59 PM
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Exactly. If women cancel sex, men can cancel monogamy. Is that what we want as a society? We already have a whole generation of women who think it's totally normal and healthy to go through a cock carousel and then expect their happy ending with a prince charming. Literally, some women downvoted me for saying that in a loving relationship/marriage, there should be sex, or otherwise, it's not a relationship but a friendship or cohabitant type of situation. If we can't agree on basic stuff like ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:48 PM
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*I struggled with women when I was the ages of most(?) of the guys here. I stopped struggling in my mid-20s and started to really thrive in my late-20s. I have a couple of things going for me genetically, but I had those things all along, so it doesn't explain the dramatic improvement over time. In your late 20s, what was the age bracket of women you were able to attract? Because if all along you were going for women in your age category and suddenly got more successful in your late 20s, then yo…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 10:34 PM
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In a loving relationship/marriage, it should mean that. Without sex, it's not a marriage but a "friendship" or "flatmates" situation. It's scary how many women think that it's okay to just stop sex after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:36 PM
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No dude, they like chad because he is good looking, being confident is a by product of that. That just means you've always met the looks threshold those women required. Women don't exactly throw themselves at most men, even if they are attractive. Yeah, I agree with all this. To get double digit body counts you have to be way above average looking. I am 6ft5, so that's the one thing I have going for me. I have learned to target girls who dig tall guys even if they are not conventionally that att…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:30 PM
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What I meant to express is that the reason why women go for a Chad is partly because of Chad's confidence. A good-looking guy (below a certain level) who is shy is not going to be a Chad. Hell, sometimes Chads aren't really that good-looking. They simply display a lot of (often toxic) traits that women are attracted to. I do think that women are terrible judges of character, though, thinking that Chad would ever consider committing to them. I know from my own example that confident body language…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:02 PM
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He must be trolling. The poor things riding the cock carousel for +/- 15 years are waking up to the fact Chads won't commit. Classic AF/BB scenario. I do feel sorry for the tiny minority of these women who actually did all the right things and tried to have LTRs after a long vetting process, and it still didn't work out. The ones with the body count consisting of a couple of LTRs, not double or triple digits. I don't feel sorry for them.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:28 PM
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Reading your post, OP, there are a lot of men out there in the exact same situation. Firstly, all of your concerns are fully justified. Now, what are you going to do about it? My advice is as follows: 1) Stop looking for a long-term GF. I know that's what you have always wanted, but as you have already experienced, it hasn't happened for you, and it sucks because you probably have a lot of love to offer, and you would make someone out there really happy. 2) Give yourself a little timeline. For s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:46 PM
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Yes. Women can approach. I would encourage every woman to date as much as possible. By saying "date," I don't suggest to sleep with these men. See them on different dates, see how they are, what sort of people they are. Really put the effort to get to know them before anything sexual happens. If you do all that, you will vet out 99+% of Chads, players, etc., who have 0 interest in LTRs and are just there for sex. The sort of man you want to marry and have children with would be okay with all tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:22 PM
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They don't. Every time we ask people or study them on what personality traits are preferred in partners, "good" traits such as being kind or honest win out. There is a big difference between what women say they want and what they actually choose. That's why men here post stats on how women pick (for sex) guys who display sociopathic traits, criminal behavior, etc. That's why this subreddit exists. The vast majority of men are blue-pilled by default, thinking that being kind or honest will help t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:06 PM
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A lot of guys forget that women are really good at reading your body language. Sure, cold-approaching is risky, and being good-looking helps, but there is one golden rule. You have to be self-assured as fuck. If you have a single doubt in your head about yourself, or what is it that you are doing, women will pick up on it. If you want to have a chance, you have to remain cool, calm, collected and shoot your shot. It might fail anyway, but you have nothing to lose, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:45 AM
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This is one of the best posts here in a long time. OP is right on the money, on all counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:26 PM
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It keeps bugging me and makes me wonder why have I never been good enough to be any woman’s choice? Like what is wrong with me that strays them away from me? Listen to me very closely. You don't know me, I don't know you, and we will probably never meet. It doesn't matter, though, because I know something that you don't seem to (yet), so I hope this will be somewhat helpful. DO NOT let ANYTHING or ANYBODY make you feel like you are not enough WHEN YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. This is an importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:40 PM
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You can also travel somewhere for a bit and have some fun. It is a lot of work, but isn't it hard work as it is? Geomaxing is a thing. I am a 29yo 6ft5 guy (not a Chad, though, don't have a face for it or a six-pack), and I go to the gym, so I am a big guy (not fat, though). I rarely get any attention from white girls (I am white). I would rate myself a 6. I could maybe hook up with a 4 on a drunk night out SOMETIMES if I go out a lot and try a lot. That's how bad it is. Now, to answer the quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:19 PM
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I am a man, and I don't hate sex workers. In fact, I have never met a man who does. Women usually hate them, though, because they take the power away from them in the dating market. Of course, I would never date one, but I fully support them. They are an important part of the society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:27 AM
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I don't know about the being hit on part. Like for sex? I don't think they overestimate it. On the other hand, a lot of women overestimate how many people they "dated" when it was clearly never dating. Meeting girls for drinks+sex without any intention/effort of ever progressing such relation is just that; casual fun/sex. It was never meant to go anywhere. For me, dating is associated with an effort/intention of a LTR. I often hear from a lot of girls how they dated X,Y,Z, and then verify it wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:58 PM
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I don't know what her standards are, but she looks much older than she is, is somewhat fake-looking, and based on her social media content, I would say she has a high n-count. Add being high-maintenance on top, and in what world is she a catch for a high value man? Having said that, I am sure there are a lot of guys out there who would want to be with her, but she probably sees them as not good enough. That's fair enough, but then she can't complain about the "rotten" men in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:52 AM
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spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:34 AM
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It's like telling women to avoid walking home from a club alone at night. It sucks that we don't live in a world where there are no crimes, no assholes, etc., but the reality is you have to do your best to minimize the chances of something bad happening to you. Walk with your friends, take a taxi. Common sense stuff to minimize the chances of something happening to you. I am not saying don't go out because you might be hit by a car because that would be an exaggeration. It's the same with women …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:25 AM
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OP is right. Another point to consider is the fact that, of course, a lot of men who do have sex only have it because of escorts. I think many women have no idea what the extent of that industry is. No woman would ever know if their male family member/friend/acquaintance is using such services because most men wouldn't even tell other men in their lives. Most men would never admit it to anyone. Yet, the sex industry is one of the biggest ones in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:24 AM
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Celebrity marriages/relationships rarely work out, though. Take James Franco as an example. He said that he cheated on every partner he had before Izabel. The vast majority of them were fellow celebrities. Nowadays, he is with Izabel, who was not famous before they got together, and that's the first partner he hasn't cheated on, and they got engaged. High-value man, James Franco, picked a young, feminine woman. That's why they are both happy now. Two high-value (to the opposite gender) people to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:51 AM
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30 years old is not some golden rule. For some, it's earlier. For others, it's later. Having said that, it's the representation of a woman who spent her 20s partying with Chads and never got the commitment. Then, suddenly she remembers there is a biological clock in the 30s. Whereas she can still get a ton of sex with countless guys, she will have a hard time finding someone who matches the extensive list of traits she requires in a partner for life. This is not only because she is past her phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:15 AM
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Another example includes short women wanting tall men. It's just a preference when a woman does it, but if a high-n-count man wants a low-n-count woman, they view it as misogyny. The reality is both of these preferences make sense from a biological standpoint, and what makes a man attractive doesn't make a woman attractive, and vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:16 AM
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