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Yall are actually under the impression women wi go back to getting married? They won't. They will opt out completely. Enjoy their hobbies and their lives. Woman's happiness has been at an all-time low. Most women obtain happiness from having children not having careers. When abortion disappears, so will casual sex, so will sex and and so will relationships between men and women. People will still have sex (its biology), the only difference is it'll be more responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:26 AM
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It's not my kid so I really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:28 PM
1

Either way, men have no say in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:24 PM
1

Most are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:25 PM
2

When did I say she was pretty, most men would agree they rather do it with an ugly chick than masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:05 PM
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there really is nothing to debate about, this is how life is. "Women just are, men must become".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:55 PM
3

True, she may be ugly but it's better than using your own hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:53 PM
1

You are sadly mistaken if you think you have to be a 10 out of 10 man to lose your virginity. I myself am studying finance and business while still spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:24 PM
1

You're in the transition from blue pill to red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:55 PM
-5

Different cultures have different standards, I personally do believe that men who are 21+ and are still virgins should be classified as a loser. Now that shouldn't make you wanna give up in life, it should serve as a motivation to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:52 PM
5

Man fuk that bitch, they everywhere just ignore them and keep doing your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:29 PM
1

You done fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:21 PM
19

You could stop giving a damn what women think. As long as you're getting your needs met and you're successful in dating who really cares with these women shame you about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:19 PM
1

Don't forget physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:17 PM
1

You let other people's interpretation of the books lead you astray, if you actually read them he goes into depth about how people shouldn't look at them like a Bible. In addition, his teachings helped me in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:34 PM
1

It's not rocket science, you're simply both misguided and trying to make it more complicated than it is. The rational male book series literally goes in-depth with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:19 PM
1

Exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:10 PM
0

Then the boyfriend trash in bed/ his woman doesn't find him attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:07 PM
1

Masturbation is addictive because of dopamine, I know for a fact that men who masturbate once a day have messed up their dopamine levels, meaning they have to do more and more fapping in order to get the same sensation as they did prior. I'm not saying men can't masturbate, it's all about moderation and self-discipline. Instead of once a day, train yourself to go maybe two times a week. Or you could put all that energy into working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:51 PM
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A guy jerking off once a day isn’t going to do anyone any harm. To suggest men are repressing something by the mere act of masturbating at all is just flat out false. It will in the long run. I also feel like you’re dramatically underestimating how persistently strong a testosterone fueled sex drive can be. I'm not, as a dude I get it, however, I learn to control it with self-discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:45 PM
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The problems aren't with the standards themselves (Although they are high), it's that these women don't seem to understand three major things; SMV, Supply and Demand, and Men needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:30 PM
2

I mean it's your dick you can do what you want with it, all I can say is masturbation doesn't solve anything, it just represses it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:25 PM
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Two things; why would I be with a woman who cant meet my sexual needs and two, High libido doesn't excuse you from not having self-control over your urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:02 PM
5

Objectively I understand the reasons for men watching porn in a relationship, but what is the point in having a girlfriend if I still need to get pleasure from porn. To me, you either lack self-discipline or your girl isn't giving you any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:58 PM
1

I was, Men and women, discriminate on a daily basis when it comes to dating. It's called having a preference for the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:39 AM
1

This is a man's world. I mean men did build the very foundation of society. Women belong in the kitchen. Most women are suited to being a housewife than working a 9-5 job, especially once the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:29 AM
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In the dating world, it's not sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:25 AM
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Male feminists get no type of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:21 AM
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Women don't like being judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:19 AM
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No. Men and woman's discrimination is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:15 AM
3

Saying that you don't want to be with a woman that is promiscuous is neither hypocritical nor shaming them. Men and women are different we want different things from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:46 PM
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Some people might take this the wrong way. Still, there really is no reason to try and convince a woman about red pill truths since biologically women tend to worry about how the information is being conveyed/how it makes them feel rather than the actual information. Case in point whenever men talk about women's promiscuous past being a red flag they get shame for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:29 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:27 PM
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Men are the disposable sex and it's been like that for thousands of years, I don't like it but it's just how nature is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:33 PM
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Sex motivates men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:31 PM
7

Yea, but they're beyond help.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:29 PM
3

true, but to a lesser effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:13 PM
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(source: the National Survey of Family Growth, a survey fielded in 1995 to a nationally representative sample of roughly 10,000 women between the ages of 15 and 44) If you actually read it he provided sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:47 PM
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Most men are blue pilled and have been made to believe that a woman's past doesn't matter. When in reality the more partners a woman has had in the past the less likely she is to pair bond with her current. https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/#:~:text=Almost%2050%20percent%20of%20all,end%20in%20divorce%20or%20separation. https://www.quora.com/Does-having-lots-of-sexual-partners-affect-one-s-ability-to-pair-bond-with-a-spouse-later-If-so-what-should-society-try-to-do-about-it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:30 PM
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Men that say they are the prize but have a below-average SMV need a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:17 PM
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A woman being promiscuous is a none issue, it only becomes an issue when a man decides to put a ring on her finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:14 PM
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There's nothing wrong with hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:24 PM
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I mean this is hypergamy in a nutshell. Men that are below a woman's SMV are invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:14 PM
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You do realize advice is opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:54 PM
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Or I'm a grown-ass man who likes his privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:48 PM
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Women don't give a shit about men's problems, if a women want to think like this it's not an issue, it only becomes an issue when men allow themselves to abide by those rules. I will never let my GF have access to my phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:21 PM
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I understand why men search, but personally, if I gotta go through her phone I'm better off breaking up with that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:04 PM
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This is simply bad advice, to explain why would take too long but any reader of the rational male would understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:00 PM
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Here are just some of the classic dating advice women give to men and woman: Be friends with a woman before you date her Relationships should be 50/50 A woman past doesn't matter Men should get in touch with her feminine side Men should date single moms Women should wait later in life to get married Communication is key Women should have guy friends even when in a relationship. Men should wait for sex Men and women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:51 PM
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I don't ask women for dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:36 PM
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That's a question you should be asking men who subscribe to blue pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:33 PM
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to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:27 PM
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But when women say “here’s a little something men should understand about women” let's be real here, 9 times out of 10 women give horrible dating advice with blue pill men being dumb enough to believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:08 PM
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If as a man you are striving for a long-term relationship; make sure you're SMV is at least a 2:1 ratio (preferably 3:1) and that she enters your frame not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:05 PM
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I'm a red pill (The rational male) and am unexclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:06 PM
1

This is the type of advice men need to follow, a woman knows whether or not she's gonna have sex with you within 3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:47 AM
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Do you lack a basic understanding of how human relationships work? No, I just understand after reading three volumes of the "rational male", listening to other men's experiences, learning through my own experience that women's actions paint a different picture than what they preach about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:56 PM
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They should get medals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:48 PM
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I'm impressed, you actually say something that is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:47 PM
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A woman likes conventional masculine men, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:39 PM
2

It's a fact that women are more emotional than men are. To counteract this women want a man that has control over his emotions, not someone that needs emotional support from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:04 PM
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Men, being vulnerable, emotional, or showing your "feminine side" does NOT make you more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:41 PM
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I mean you can lie, but most men can tell when a woman has a low/high body count. They're just in denial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:50 PM
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A woman's body count doesn't matter if you're just pumping and dumping, but as a man, if your looking for an LTR then the fewer partners a woman has is for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:44 PM
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Body language and the way she dresses, also if she has social media check there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:26 PM
1

Nobody's entitled to it, and often the truth is something that is harsh but will help you develop as a person. For example, telling a man he's "fat as fuk and needs to lose some weight" may sound harsh but is a reality check for him that he needs to get his weight under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:32 AM
3

This is a very feminine point of view, for most men sex is about physical touch while for women it's mostly psychological. As for men's advice, it's not supposed to be comforting. It's a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:19 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:18 AM
1

Women objectify men too and there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:17 AM
1

Shit takes up half of the bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:49 AM
3

This is just my opinion but if as a man you have to search through your girlfriend's phone to see if she's cheating on you, probably shouldn't be with her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:46 AM
2

It's rough asking someone to get to know you individually when they seem to think anyone born with a vagina is a cardboard cutout hivemind. I mean I'm not saying this goes for all women, but the woman in MY area fit that description perfectly. Most women don't give a damn about men's interests outside of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:19 PM
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I mean this is true, men of the high status do want a woman who is vastly more attractive than the average woman as a statute symbol of his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:16 PM
8

"Women are dream killers. Not because they have an agenda to be so, but because men will all too willingly sacrifice their ambitions for a steady supply of pussy and the responsibilities that women attach to this” - The Rational male. This quote speaks facts, a lot of Red Pill people are forgetting that they themselves are responsible for choosing to prioritize women over planing out their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:17 AM
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Having children/Creating a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:02 AM
0

I will say that is a huge flaw in the red pill community thinking that all woman are the EXACT same as each other. With that being said, you can easily categorize these woman into their own groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:05 AM
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"Anal sex might seem like a viable option if you’re concerned about pregnancy or losing your virginity in the traditional vaginal penetration sense; however, unprotected anal sex poses one of the highest sexually transmitted infection (STI) risks. The anal cavity is comprised of permeable mucous membranes which can provide an entry point for infection. Due to the nature of sexual activity involving the anus, small tears and cuts are common—especially if you’re not using enough lube—so, additiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:24 PM
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The more money a woman makes, the fewer options of men she has since most women never want to settle. Women want a man whose SMV is higher than their own is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:12 PM
8

No homosexual but it feels like having a sexual relationship with one of the homies. Exactly, which is why I don't find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:21 AM
1

So what? There are still plenty of women that are very selective of who they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:09 PM
1

It's really simple, women can have sex with as many men they want, certain men just won't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:06 PM
1

........(ಠ_ಠ)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:35 PM
1

Old feminism was about equal rights and freedom of choice, this new wave is just a hot mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:35 PM
1

I'm not gonna lie to you and say women don't care about Looks, they do especially when they're at peak SMV. Although every man can increase their SMV, there will always be others that are higher value than them. Men's SMV can be broken down into three parts: Looks, Game, and Assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:34 PM
2

In a few years that might be the only solution men have left.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:25 PM
2

My boy has been doing his research!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:22 PM
1

But that's the thing, women don't care that men are struggling with dating, so men are better off just improving themselves (Increasing SMV) rather than complaining to a gender that could give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:20 PM
2

You can control your weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:10 PM
0

Because women never want men that on their level. They want men with a higher SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:07 PM
0

No, women always want a man that has a higher SMV than her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:04 PM
2

Dating, in general, involves a person's SMV level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:07 PM
2

I will say this if you are a guy and your SMV is below average, then don't complain about a woman not wanting to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:04 PM
1

This isn't even up for debate, a mans' career is always of higher value than a relationship with a woman. That being said, men still need a woman for sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:15 PM
2

Thanks for the good laugh! Have a nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:58 PM
2

You must be trolling. You should stop, and I suggest you don't use vocabulary that's out of your knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:43 PM
1

Did you even read the post? You sound like most Blue pill people when those of Red pill criticize your belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:36 PM
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Congratulations, you just showed you know very little about how the male and female body operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:10 PM
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How about you research data on your own instead of relying on people to give it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:56 PM
3

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:55 PM
2

you are as much slaves to your biology as any man, you simply lie about it to yourself and to the world. There you go, even feminists want a man that exhibits conventional masculine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:28 PM
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This is what I mean by you people will disregard facts, data, statistics, examples, honestly, anything that goes against your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:38 PM
2

What does the gender wage gap being a myth have to do with biology? The male body is built to work which is why they can work for more hours compared to a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:33 PM
2

I'm not into politics, but after reading various red pill books I'm starting to understand that my ideologies are more leaning towards conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:22 PM
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you're not going to get very far with convincing us. My goal isn't trying to convince you, I'm simply sharing information with my perspective. Whether not you choose to believe it is up to you and honestly I don't really care. So unless you're going to construct an argument which doesnt undermine or limit women's freedoms or insult their intelligence, Nobody's trying to limit a woman's freedom or insult their intelligence, the problem that arises is when feminist and blue pill people disregard y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:20 PM
1

Exactly, but at this point, it's easier to let people believe what they want to even if it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:00 PM
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It really doesn't matter either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:40 PM
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I have no goals for dating right now since I'm more focused on my career, I just spin plates with the woman I meet at my campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:39 PM
6

It's because men are taught to believe that women will reciprocate the same type of love as they show them is why men's suicide rates are much higher than women's in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:41 PM
0

Men and women are better suited for separate things, it does not mean that either gender is superior. Each gender has its strengths and weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:21 PM
0

Exactly, women think just because you say the word different it means one gender is better than the other, it doesn't. All it means is that men and women operate differently from one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:00 PM
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What really bothers me is not the woman that preaches this kind of stuff, it's the men who still believe this even after both evidence and their own experience show that we are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:58 PM
5

The funny part about this is that reality shows a different picture, men who have low masculinity levels struggle far more with dating compared to men that are conventionally masculine. It's common knowledge now that a woman's actions are different than what she says, a lot of women will say they want an equal partner in a relationship, but this is false since most men who are conditioned to believe they want the same thing struggle to get a partner compared to men that are leading those relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:54 PM
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Men and women have very few similarities with one another, if men and women were more in common with each other then dating would not be an issue. It's because men believe this false narrative that both genders are the same that they struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:46 PM
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Again men and women are not the same, the things that make a man attractive are not the same things that make a woman attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:37 PM
-2

Lemme guess you think men and women are the same...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:33 PM
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High value man - virgin, attractive, loyal, wants to be a dad and take care of his kids If this was even remotely true men would not be struggling with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:06 PM
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A woman who has a body count of over 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:52 PM
1

why do some women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:40 AM
2

Women are hypocritical with almost all their preferences (if you think men and women are the same.). As for stay-at-home mothers, it makes sense for the father to provide with the mother taking care of the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:13 AM
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Fit with a nice ass, low body count, feminine and submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:44 AM
2

Aren't women hypocritical when it comes to dating preferences too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:41 AM
1

I'm pretty sure women use the word misogyny as a fail-safe when their arguments don't hold up or if a man has an opinion that they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:05 AM
1

Again you make no sense, a lot of men are being called misogynistic for having basic preferences for a woman such as a low body count or not caring about a woman's career.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:00 AM
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That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:54 PM
6

Can someone please tell me why do some women on this subreddit (or in Reddit in general) think it's misogynistic to have a preference/criticism towards a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:45 PM
4

I always find it funny when a man says's "his girlfriend won't allow doing XYZ" or he needs his "girlfriend's permission". If you have to ask your girlfriend for permission to do anything in your life, she's clearly is leading that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:57 PM
5

You misunderstand it, men reach their peak in their 30's if they max out their potential. It takes time for men to develop their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:38 PM
1

Women will never be the stronger gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:30 AM
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All a woman has to do is stay faithful to her man, if she can't do that then she belongs to the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:12 AM
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Pick-me women are the bend-over-backwards-internalized-misogynistic women that men love for obvious reasons. This is the average feminist thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:09 AM
2

God damn my boy!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:46 AM
1

"so people can reach some common ground and compromise". That will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:45 AM
9

Why can't all woman give good head?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:25 AM
3

You gotta give props to women that be twerking with no type of ass whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:53 PM
1

You asked me why I'm doing all this But even if I told you why I doubt very strongly that the knowledge would change anything at all. But let's say that I take the time to explain it to you. What do you think would happen then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:43 PM
4

You can't negotiate genuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:18 PM
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This shit is too fucking funny!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:20 PM
6

Because history proves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:50 PM
2

You don't, lets be honest here some people are destined to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:47 PM
3

"Thank you for digging my grave"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:31 PM
6

Think about it logically, that's your daughter bruh!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:29 PM
1

Honestly, I'm not surprised your white.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:25 PM
1

Saw this one chick at my campus the other day, she had one of the most beautiful dark skin I've ever seen in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:14 PM
3

Men want women with a low body count. Men believe that they should be the ones to lead a relationship and not an equal partnership. Men wanting younger attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:11 PM
3

It's the behavior a man engages in to 'preserve' their masculinity to such an extreme that it's emotionally damaging or actually destructive. The problem in this day in age is that society shames men for being traditionally masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:04 PM
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Both femininity and masculinity are not toxic, it's the person themselves that are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:55 PM
4

Cleopatra can get it any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:54 PM
5

You're in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:50 PM
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It's the truth, men out here living paycheck to paycheck spending it on onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:49 PM
2

It's men fault for being Simps in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:43 PM
10

There's no such thing as toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:38 PM
2

What's a femcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:27 PM
3

What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:31 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:29 PM
1

It's a possibility, but realistically no since as a person ages their efficiency level steadily drops.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:26 PM
3

Both men and women have an SMV (sexual marketplace value). A woman's sexual marketplace value peaks at 23 where she is at her most attractive and fertile. Men's sexual marketplace value peaks in their 30's (assuming he maxed out his potential).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:15 PM
3

Yes, sex is legit the reason why the human race has not gone extinct yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:46 PM
12

Women will approach men that are genuinely attractive, for the average-looking man it's wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:02 PM
3

This is why you don’t take dating advice from men as a woman. And vice versa, women's advice to men never works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:59 PM
1

Elaborate would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:01 PM
1

If we're strictly talking about business, prostitution will become one of the biggest forms of revenue the US has ever seen. The demand for "box" is so high right now they'll make a fortune in about a month. As for dating, there really won't be a point in waiting for the woman to give you sex when you can just pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:00 PM
1

We get it. You want dependent submissive women. Took you this long to realize that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:04 PM
1

What you and many other women fail to understand is that what men and women look for in a relationship is completely different, If I was looking for a business partner then I would want someone who is financially similar to me, but in a relationship her money is irrelevant, what matters is can she be submissive and a good mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:54 PM
1

Keep in mind we're talking about a relationship, not a business partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:42 PM
2

A woman can have a 7 figure job, and a master's degree, but her value does not lie in that. She is not more valuable than the woman making $30k. Exactly, in terms of a relationship, she can have all that but her SMV will still be lower than a woman who is 8/10 in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:37 PM
8

You guys so often sound like you believe women get by in life on their looks (not true btw) and you’re jealous because you wish you could too. That type of life is pretty boring if you ask me, men and women are not the same, most men I know enjoy working hard for what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:43 PM
2

In terms of social classes yes you are right, but in terms of a relationship men and women want different things. Men want an attractive woman who will be the bearer of their children while women want a man who is an optimization of both beta and alpha traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:47 PM
7

A woman's beauty is enough for blue pill men, Red Pill men will want a woman that is submissive and will be a good mother for their future children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:34 PM
6

The exceptions don't make the rule, most men are average looking at best with a selected few being truly handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:32 PM
34

Women are born with value (beauty), men must create their own value (career/profession).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:03 PM
1

I did, if as an adult you fail to understand the basics of financing then that is on you. The example you gave of "What about if the guys who make 60k has a cost of living that’s 70k?" is unrealistic and makes little to no sense, every year he would be 10k in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:23 PM
1

I wouldn't even consider dating a woman that does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:18 PM
2

I mean if as an adult you don't know how to finance then that's on you, but when it comes to having a potential family, women want a man with a high annual salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:13 PM
1

I'm a guy so I would be the provider. Depending on you're salary will tell a woman whether or not you will be a good provider. If a man is making $25,000 a year then he would be a bad provider compared to a man making $60,000 a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:03 PM
0

My beliefs are traditional so yes, if we're talking about a relationship and potential marriage then men are to be the provider with the woman being the nurturer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:51 PM
4

If you are a very attractive male then online dating is the best option for you, but if your average looking then don't bother. You have a better chance walking up to a stranger than hoping a woman swipes right on you're profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:30 PM
5

Whether or not a person is generally nice or is putting up a façade, either way, both types of men struggle in the dating world (Blue Pill men).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:27 PM
7

Want to have lots of casual sex? That's not difficult. Like and respect women. Find liberated women who also want that. Be a bit charming - subtle yet forthright. Job done. This is legit the reason why men don't get any action from woman, this nice guy act doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:08 PM
2

Depends on whether or not he has the courage to exercise those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:21 PM
24

It kinda is, the alpha fucks and the beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:00 PM
21

Stepfathers can rarely ever truly discipline their "children".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:15 PM
2

For women, it's simple, your gonna have to be realistic with your SMV. If your average looking you can't expect to get a man that is high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:55 PM
2

Depending on what stage a person is in their life, as a fellow young man, I would tell others in my age group to prioritize building a stable career and not feel pressure from society to be in an early relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:44 PM
3

Although I won't respect her if a woman wants to be a hoe by all means she can since it's her life. Guys like me just won't date them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:41 PM
2

Although I do believe in the 20% rule, Hypergamy isn't solely about marring up/ financial support. Hypergamy wants an optimization of both Alpha and Beta traits in a single man. “From an evolutionary standpoint, Hypergamy always seeks an optimization of either side of the AF/BB motives that is better, more advantageous, than any individual woman’s attractiveness should realistically warrant. Hypergamy doesn’t seek its own level; it will always seek a better optimization than a woman’s sexual mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:36 PM
5

I don't think it's that deep when it comes to music, most of the time these artists are lying through their teeth. If it sounds good I'll listen to it regardless of the hidden message behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:28 PM
0

Realistically speaking, only a small percentage of men and women or actually prizes, the rest are average. Why does everyone want to be treated like a prize? Isn’t the point of a relationship to work as a team and bring equal to a relationship? Hypergamy doesn't want equality, it was an optimization between Alpha and Bela traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:27 PM
2

The average first marriage that ends in divorce lasts about 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:17 PM
11

If a woman wants to be promiscuous that's fine I don't really care, I'm just not gonna take them seriously or marry/have a relationship with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:18 PM
3

To you, but society thinks otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:15 PM
2

The type of men women pick will be the determining factor of whether or not a woman will want to submit to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:13 PM
13

If fewer people are getting married, then, as a result, fewer people will get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:08 PM
10

No, they haven't. https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/#:~:text=Almost%2050%20percent%20of%20all,first%20marriages%20end%20in%20divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:38 PM
16

Women can absolutely still sleep around and still nail down a life partner. More than 50% percent of marriages end in a dumpster fire with 80% of women initiating those divorces. Sorry not sorry but your personal experiences don't mean it's the reality for the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:06 PM
3

Society does not think fuck bois are high value. It does, you may not agree with it but women want men the other men want to be and other women want to fuck and their actions prove it. Most men do what women want in a relationship, but women don't want them. Most women want a strong masculine male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:50 PM
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No, men just have enough self-respect not to be a woman who has been around the block and understand that the more partners a woman have, the less likely she is to pair bond in a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:30 PM
-4

If you're talking about hypergamy then yes, but women naturally want to submit to a high-value masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:07 PM
5

Your personal definition of what high value is doesn't matter it's society as a whole that dictates whether a person is high-value or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:03 PM
-3

You make it sound negative, all men want is a woman that is feminine, submissive, and has a compatible personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:02 PM
0

Having pleasant energy, not being loud, being good at managing a household, being modest, having a good sexual history, no tattoos or percentage outside of the ear, etc. There you go, men don't want much, but what we do want is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:43 PM
5

men want to be able to sleep around but want all women to be virgins until marriage Only a small percentage of men can actually sleep around, most men get sex from their significant other. When men say "stay virgin" it doesn't mean he has to be her first, but just have a low 'n' count usually from 0-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:25 PM
3

Don't care it's not my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:17 PM
6

This will only apply if you think men and women are the same which they aren't if a man sleeps around it means he is of high value, but if the woman does the same thing she is of low value, and women themselves shame each other about having a high body count more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:16 PM
-2

It's this feminine society that teaches woman at a young age that they are entitled to a high-value relationship with the man being taught to sacrifice his ambitions to provide that future for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:15 PM
3

These men exist and, trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.” The thing is that these types of men are the beta males women settle with in order to satisfy their hypergamy. Another thing is that tricks men into thinking that if they wait they will be rewarded for their efforts when in reality it's quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:22 AM
2

I'll choose vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:18 AM
3

You mean the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:19 PM
1

What kind of punishment is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 10:18 PM
2

Depends on her character. Usually no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:46 AM
2

If you just started dating a girl and have sex with her in the second week, you mean to tell me you already love her? No, it's the value she adds to my life afterward that may or may not evoke true feelings for her. What exactly is being done in a fwb sex that’s not being done in a newly minted relationship Me personally, I wouldn't eat an FWB box since I'm not committed to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:43 AM
3

FWB is sex with lust, while relationships are sex with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:37 AM
0

If men are only getting into relationships for sex Relationships are not just about sex, but its an important part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:34 AM
8

The guy providing the emotional support is not receiving the benefits he is desiring while the woman is getting her desire while withholding the physical to save for the man she is more physically attracted to. There you go, for most men, frequent sex shows that she is reciprocating the love and affection he gives to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:02 AM
7

The fact you think that tells me continuing this conversation is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:57 PM
5

And sex is one of the most important ways to show that love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:53 PM
21

Credit: No More Mr. Nice guy book. NICE GUYS are everywhere: He is the relative who lets his wife run the show. He is the buddy who will do anything for anybody, but who's my own life seems to be in shambles. He is the guy who frustrates his wife or girlfriend because he is so afraid of conflict that nothing ever gets resolved. He is the boss who tells one person what they want to hear, then reverses himself to please someone else. He is the man who lets people walk all over him because he doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:40 PM
3

Simply put, FWB is about easy access to sex for both men and women (mostly for men), rather than go on a date, all you have to do is call her up and if she's down for it you go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:33 PM
3

To me, FWB is casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:56 PM
7

Because there's a difference between making love and having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:42 PM
22

What's the point of a relationship if there's no sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:30 PM
5

Because fathers are better at disciplining young boys and girls for the world while mothers are better at nurturing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:10 PM
2

Depends, If you are pro-choice it's the mother failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:49 PM
6

And look how they turn out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:43 PM
2

To put it frankly, a woman can go to the sperm bank to make a baby You still need a man to discipline that child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:15 PM
1

Really doesn't matter if you believe, but I suggest you get your priorities in check and stop looking for female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:48 PM
1

And what’s the purpose of you building your career? What are your true goals and aspirations? I'm doing it cause I want to, women have nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:33 PM
1

Red Pill is about defining your own purpose in life and not what the feminine society tries to implant onto you. Me personally I find purpose in building my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:17 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:13 PM
0

Never said that, the only thing I want from woman at this point in my life is sex. Obviously as I get older I would like to settle down with a woman that is compatible with me, until then al I need is sex from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:34 PM
-1

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:23 PM
0

I did not mean income, a young boy having a role model on what it means to be masculine is what I ment, and not having gender roles is the reason why men struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:47 PM
1

My fellow men, would you eat the box the first time having sex with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:41 PM
0

You can not dispute facts about the human body that has been researched and proven for hundreds of years. It's the same way how medical science has improved, people study the body and how it functions and differentiates from man and woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:34 PM
60

Okay...I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that a woman has 100% right to whom they allow to enter her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:24 PM
-2

Your argument falls short when you realize a person whether its man or woman future is dependent on how they were raised. A lot of women wouldn't be in this mess if they grew up in a two-person house old with a strong masculine and feminine mother and father.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:20 PM
0

Its Biology, most women (unless they're taking supplements) will never understand a man's high level of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:59 PM
-2

Idk, but personally every time I asked a woman out is because I want to have intimacy with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:46 PM
-5

It's men who believe their libido is priority and must be satisfied at almost any cost. How is that a problem? 8/10 times men ask women on dates because they want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:33 PM
-2

Plus men already be paying like 50$ for a date anyways and still get no box, might as well spend it on a girl that will guarantee you sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:29 PM
-3

If men could legally pay for box, fewer and fewer men would be pursuing women and more likely to focus on themselves. But If I had a daughter I wouldn't want her to live in a society like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:23 PM
1

what did they do? Good question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:04 AM
2

Red Lipstick is unattractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:36 PM
1

Men are really paying for some farts? That's just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:35 PM
2

Youtube doesn't like red pill channels in the first place, they actually might get terminated. And even if they don't, their reputation is gonna be damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:17 PM
4

They started to exploit copyright strike channels that were using their footage, the only problem is it was under the fair use policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:11 PM
3

To be fair, they did it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:08 PM
1

Just realized that the Red pill leans more towards Conservatives and the Blue pill leans more towards Liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:55 PM
5

Yes, if a woman isn't meeting a man sex drive that relationship is doom to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:42 PM
0

Simple, stop prioritizing a woman and start focusing on yourself such as a long-term career.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:47 AM
2

Personally, I don't do virgins, but yea generally speaking women with fewer past partners are more suitable for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:45 AM
1

No, cause I don't want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:40 PM
11

As a young man, that book is my Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:38 PM
27

The Epiphany and Transitory Phase-"The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi “Between the ages of 28 to about 30 (sometimes later for attractive women perpetuating their Party Years) women often enter into a more cognitive awareness of their personal conditions with regard to their declining SMV. This phase I call The Epiphany Phase; it is the point at which the subconscious awareness a woman has of her sexual market value in relation to her eventual date with the Wall can no longer be subconsciously …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:46 PM
11

That's a broad unsupported claim, a lot of fathers cant even see their kids because of the mother keeping them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:38 PM
1

Depends on your checklist and what you think to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:55 PM
1

"Golden Penis Syndrome" ...The Fuk?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:33 PM
1

If my life isn’t improved by having someone in it, I’d prefer them to not be around. Relationships can either be an asset or a liability, honestly, I don't plan to be in an exclusive relationship until my late 20's since the only thing I want right now is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:45 PM
1

I don’t want to wait 3 months to see if he sucks in bed, That's a fact, why would wait 3 months just to end up finding out she doesn't give oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:51 PM
5

If my girlfriend can't please me sexually, that relationship is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:19 PM
2

If a person can't handle criticism male or female, they have no business having a debate or making a claim online.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:16 PM
0

Most partners are settled for, it's just how life is, primarily for a woman as she gets older and her SMV decreases, she's gonna have to accept the fact the man she wants won't necessarily want her back due to her declining attractiveness. Women in those situations will have to lower their dating standards. The average man takes what he can get most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:02 PM
0

In EVERY relationship between two people there is a dom, and a sub. It's unavoidable. And in this day in age, more women are becoming the dom in relationships with their man willingly submitting to her. A crazy world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:46 PM
1

You understand that just because you learn the teaching from a person doesn't mean you want to be like them, in the case of Warren buffet his teacher was Benjamin Graham, and although the two share similarities, they each have their own methods when it comes to investing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:43 PM
0

No, and people who think otherwise will have reality redirect them to how the world really functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:28 PM
1

Q4Men: What made you become a Red Piller? Personally, I wanted to know what it truly means to be a "real man" so I started to read "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:09 PM
7

At this point, in feminine society, any criticisms towards women in their eyes are misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:32 PM
11

I've become aware that unfortunately, Blue Pill men will have to learn it the hard way that what they have been raised to believe isn't how reality operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:27 PM
1

The only reason why I will get married is to have kids and raise them in a two-person household (Both the mother and father). I would be the provider with my future wife being the caretaker of the children and the house while I'm gone. As for divorce, men should protect their assets by having their soon-to-be wife sign a prenup, if she doesn't want to sign it, congratulations you just dodge a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:23 AM
8

A woman with a promiscuous past does not make the best candidate for marriage. A woman who is more conservative with who they allow having intimacy with is better suited to a long-term relationship. It's like investing in a stock, why would a man put all his resources on a woman who's had various past partners when he finds other ladies that had fewer partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:51 PM
1

You're misguided if you think chasing a woman who has little to no interest in the man who wants her will lead to a fulling family
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:11 PM
3

Exactly, especially for young men who should be pursuing a career rather than being upset over not having a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:38 PM
0

Exactly, men are shamed for being masculine, something that is natural to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:08 PM
24

I really just don't understand why men nowadays are desperate for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:58 PM
2

You can tell by a womans mannerisms if she conserves her self for sex or not. The samething with men, you can tell a guy's a virgin just by the way he talks, most people are open books, plus with social media people love posting their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:49 PM
2

I support woman that want to wait till marriage, however what I'm talking about is a woman who's been in multiple relationships excepting me to wait months for sex when I know for a fact she let other men in after 2-3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:41 PM
3

"She might take several months to determine it" If a woman takes that long she's either leading the man on or isn't that interested in him, it's really that simple. A woman will make one man wait 2 months for sex while another only waited 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:13 PM
2

The only time a man should wait for sex is if the woman is still a virgin, other than that 3 dates is more than enough for a woman to know whether or not she wants have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:55 AM
8

More woman are gonna start complaining about men not approaching them/men not giving them attention. More men will start using online dating and complaining about how no woman will match with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:59 AM
2

You can live your life however you want to but in terms of biology, these are the assigned roles man and woman are given and are usually best suited for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:07 AM
1

Having a traditional family and doing my own reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:52 PM
1

Two things: One there are other roles housewives have besides taking care of the children, and two, nobody said she can't have a life outside of being a caretaker. As long as my future wife prioritizes her roles in the marriage, she can do whatever she wants to do afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:23 PM
2

Because I want my wife to take care of the children while I'm out providing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:08 PM
2

I'm in college so I don't do serious relationships, I'm more on focusing on my career. My family is very traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:07 PM
1

Or, learn how to finance and get a high-paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:03 PM
-1

50/50 partnerships do not work long-term. Whether or not people want to believe it or not men are designed to lead relationships with the woman supporting his decisions. That doesn't mean the woman won't have input, but it's the man who makes the final decision. Plenty of relationships where the man was indecisive and the woman left him because of his inability to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:51 PM
-1

Modern relationships require two main roles: The Provider, and the Nurturer. For a marriage to be successful both the man and woman need to fulfill their gender roles. The man is head of the household while the woman takes care of the children and supports the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:41 PM
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What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit? Stop going for men that have no interest in having a future with you. "men are right for not committing to you and only using you as a fleshlite. If you want men to commit to you then you need to work on yourself and stop blaming men/socity for your lack of success" If a man is only with a woman for sexual access, that's the woman's fault for continuing to be in a one-sided relationship with a man like that. There are plenty of men tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:51 PM
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Maybe a nice watch, nice car. But that might attract the wrong women. Never use materialistic items as a form of attraction, the only type of woman you will get is golddiggers. But lets be honest... most guys will end up as betabux. Yeah pretty much, most people become Red Pill After experiencing the realities of the dating market. And even then they may become men that despise woman. Let's say you make six figures, semi-prestigious job by the time you're 35...but little experience with girls. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:42 PM
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A man needs at least 2 out of 3 things in the dating market; Game, Looks, and Assets. If a man uses money in order to attract and get sex from a woman it doesn't make him a Beta or an Alpha male. Just because a man gets ladies doesn't mean he's an Alpha, he could be a respectable Beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:04 PM
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Spot on, women with these qualities are marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 02:04 AM
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Honestly, after being on this subreddit I'm starting to realize that only a few Red Pillers move past the "how to pick up chicks" part of it and into the self-development parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:58 PM
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also why would a daughter need a dad less than a boy Both a daughter and a son need a father figure, but in my opinion, it's more realistic for a father to teach a boy on being masculine and a mother teaching her daughter on feminity. single dad and a daughter be? If I had to take an educated guess, she will be disciplined but will still need a female mentor that can really relate to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:35 PM
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https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/ https://www.moms.com/effects-two-parents-vs-one-parent/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/five-facts-about-todays-single-fathers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:55 PM
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Raising kids is the one where men are most defensive about why their wives do it, frankly they're build for it more. Women are better at nurturing a child while Men are better at disciplining a child. This is the reason why a lot of single mothers' children grow up to degenerate in society, they need a father in their life especially if it is a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:41 PM
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Me personally I want my wife to be a stay-at-home mother and attend to the kids. If I'm out there providing for my family I expect my wife to be taking care of our children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:31 PM
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Personally, I'm in college so I don't really do bars, I ask girls out that are around my campus. If I see a girl I like in class I walk up to her start a conversation with her making sure to lead it while giving away tiny bits of information about myself. If I see she's interested in me I schedule an inexpensive first date with her making sure not to text her until that date. I usually get a 54% success rate. Keeping in mind I go for women that are within my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:36 PM
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As a black man, I preferably date outside my own race, not because I don't find a black woman attractive, but because (where I live at least) black women tend to be more masculine and ratchet which for me is a turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:33 PM
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It's still infinitely easier to dismiss the community as a whole. See when men say the same thing about feminism they get attacked and harassed. A lot of women who associate themselves with feminist or female dating strategies legit say they hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:16 PM
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What I will say is that the world is not running on those who are the exception to the rule and instead on generalizations. Are there women out there who are disgusted by presumptuous men yes, but dating apps and social media prove most women want men that have experience in the dating world. Do you support outlier women? If a woman does not want to date a man that is promiscuous that is completely fine and I really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:12 PM
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And I guarantee you most redpill men don’t treat women like children. We hold them to a way higher standard. Agreed, those of us who are Red pill treat women like adults, we don't treat them like children and we don't treat them like goddesses either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:58 PM
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a lot of the men you hear say this think it’s okay for them to have high body counts, but expect a woman with a low body count to want them The thing is that is proven time and time again that women want a man that other women want to fuck and other men want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:51 PM
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Another thing the red pill teaches men is to ignore/disregard the shaming tactics of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:21 PM
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Red Pill informs men of the reality of the dating market. It reinforces my thinking of prioritizing my career over chasing women for a relationship, how to examine a woman's actions over her words, the liabilities of marriage, etc. Although I do recommend people to learn the teachings of the Red Pill, it only helps if men stop being so desperate for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:54 PM
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Exactly, and even when a man says "I don't think you and I are compatible for a serious relationship" 9 times out of 10 a woman will dig deep as to why he feels this way finding out it was due to her promiscuous past and will proceed to shame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:09 PM
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When it comes to dating preferences everybody's entitled to theirs. When it comes to men, women shame them for having preferences that "oppress" or "make them feel lesser" such as wanting a fit woman, low body count, and does not have any children (single mother).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:01 PM
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In biology, men naturally have far more testosterone than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:36 PM
3

There you go simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:44 PM
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No, men getting sex from a woman is not a human right. Men are not entitled to a woman's body and will never be. However, the same thing applies to a woman and that she is not entitled to a man's time, money and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:42 PM
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Exactly, it doesn't make any sense. A lot of these strong independent women who say they don't need a man still complain about there being no good men. If a woman doesn't need or want a man in her life why is she still complaining about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:37 PM
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Some dude dug through her comment history to find out she's actually making less than a fifth of that and is in major debt. This is why some men don't take a woman's independence seriously, a lot of the time they only do it in order to get validation or it's a contradiction to what their reality really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:26 PM
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Not gonna lie, this is the first time I heard of WGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:21 PM
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The best way for a man to learn self-discipline/improvement is by going to the gym!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:10 PM
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Personally, I would not go for women one or two since they're both walking red flags. But if I had no other option I will go for woman one since she's more submissive than woman two who's gonna be a headache. Men that are working their asses off don't wanna come home to a woman that's going to give them problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:07 PM
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Even for a woman like her, she's gonna want a man that's above her level. The only problem is that the average man cannot do that. Most women don't believe in the idea of settling for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:58 PM
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"she works in a high-demand field and is very career-driven. She spends a lot of time at work and takes pride in it. Her aspirations are to focus mainly on her career until her late thirties where she might consider settling down and trying to start a family. She likes to be in charge and doesn't let you make many decisions since she knows best". These are legit the masculine traits women look for when in a long-term relationship with a man. And I know from experience, women who are in high-dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:55 PM
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It really makes no difference whether a guy is generally nice or has nice guy syndrome, in the end, both parties will struggle in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:42 PM
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This is how most women think, but for some reason, the majority of men still don't understand that. Women want men that are leaders and are ambitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:16 PM
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Women two is way too masculine, Woman one is the better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:11 PM
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Yes because men must be of high value in order to have sex with the majority of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:31 PM
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Because women do not have the same testosterone levels as men. "Healthy testosterone levels literally cause men to perceive women as sexual objects, stimulating the same portions of our brains used for cognitive problems solving manipulating tools". ~The Rational Male
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:33 PM
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People have told me it's unrealistic. I agree. But I'd still rather stay single (maybe forever) than settle. Almost every time a woman says this, they end up regretting this as their age and their sexual market value goes down. Everybody that is average, both men and women, will have to settle in a relationship, nobody is entitled or deserving of someone who is of high value. Is it possible I will ever meet a guy like me? Or is it wishful thinking? The majority of men will indeed be faithful to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:21 PM
1

Relationships are an equal partnership of 50-50 is inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:19 PM
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Men tend to project their desires onto women and from this perspective its easy to see why men think being a woman is great. Only a small amount of men are actually are upfront with their needs and desires. Feminine social conventions tell both old and young men that they need to suppress their needs in order to fulfill a woman's life. You're young and trying to figure out your life but once you're 35, you're not useful to men anymore A man that isn't stepping up to the plate and providing for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:36 PM
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And that's your opinion which is fine. I personally prefer "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi which was my introduction to red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:33 PM
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It makes no difference to me if the information is new or old, what matters is I can use this information to benefit me in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:27 PM
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I'm probably not the only one that thinks this, but I really don't give a shit about the people behind red pill. What these people are in real life does not concern me, I'm only interested in the teachings that actually work so I can better improve my life. Again red pill is not about picking up chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:59 PM
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When I actually see a future with this person that's when we are in an official relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:33 AM
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Beta men believe in dating advice women tell them, rejecting any notion that what they were raised to believe would land them a girlfriend is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:28 AM
4

In his books, he talks about spinning place from the age of 18 to 30 once you understand the liabilities of being in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:14 PM
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Although I recommend the red pill it does have its flaws. I see the majority of people only become red pill just to find some magical way of getting more women. Even Rollo Tomassi said it himself in his rational male books that the point of spinning plates is to not achieve a high body count but instead to keep your options open and primarily focus on your self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:00 PM
2

Honestly is less about what you bring to the table and more about what liabilities do you bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:40 AM
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"I'm not saying she's a hoe, but she's taking more loads than a washing machine."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:49 AM
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By law, a woman cannot be forcibly impregnated, that would be rape. It is a woman's choice of the type of man she allows to impregnate her and is her choice whether or not to keep, put up for adoption, or abort the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:36 PM
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She was more or less forcefully impregnated and as a result, we came onto this planet. That's a bit of a stretch don't you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:26 PM
0

True, and to be fair to the men, in the woman eyes their pieces of shit, but in reality men are just exercising their options for intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:05 PM
2

So is every man's fault that you keep chasing men that won't commit to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:41 PM
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Agreed, women need to have some accountability here, it's not the man's fault that they decide to believe his words instead of his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:59 PM
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I hear both sides. If a guy wants to talk to you he will go out of his way to do so. No job or regular old busyness will keep him away, right? The thing is men that women are attracted to don't prioritize relationships for good reasons; the more attention you give a woman the less value you are to her, relationships come and go while a good stable career stays with you, and men who are working on a high earning profession simply will have to dedicate most of their time improving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:11 PM
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Don't make dating a priority and think more like it's an accessorie to add in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:47 PM
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Because these are the same woman that complains why men don't take them seriously. Most men especially those with options don't want a woman that's been passed around. Personally, I don't care if a woman wants to be slutty that's her business. All I have to do is avoid these types of women and have a prenup readily available for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:07 AM
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No cause as a woman gets older and her sexual market value decreases she has to learn to settle/ lower her dating standards if she wants to have a man in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:44 PM
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A woman's actions legit prove that this is what a high-value man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:39 PM
6

Exactly, play your strengths so they counter your weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:35 PM
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Men need at least 2 out of 3 things in the dating world; Looks, Game, Assets. A man that is average-looking can make it up by having Game and Assets. Just take a look at some of these rappers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:16 PM
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That's your personal interpretation of a high-value man. When in reality most high-value men won't treat you the way you want them since they have options to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:12 PM
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FDS implies that women, at face value, are worth more than Men and men should be making the sacrifice to make up this difference. Agreed, this is the best way to summarize FDS. They teach the average woman that they are entitled to a man of higher value than them. In reality, it's a woman's SMV that dictates the caliber of man she can attract and keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:09 PM
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It is legit the universal definition of a high-value man. You can look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:03 PM
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FDS is legit teaching average women that they are entitled to an above-average man when in reality 8 out of 10 times average people are in relationships with other average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:02 PM
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You're telling me it's easy to make 100K a year? If it was easy to become a high-value man they wouldn't be "high value".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 10:57 PM
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It's not even hard to be one. It's a lot of effort to be a high-value man, another thing is that the female dating strategy will not work on a man that has options of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 10:54 PM
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5.) Stop lowering standards for ugly and unattractive men. The crazy part about this is that most women are average-looking. A lot of FDS be telling women that they are prizes when in reality most women are at the same level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 10:50 PM
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In my opinion, marriage and love can coexist so long as the man remains the leader of the marriage and has taken the necessary precautions of having a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:32 PM
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A woman that wants a man who is financially stable does not make her a Golddigger, what makes a woman a Golddigger is when the only reason why she is with that man is because of the money he makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:57 AM
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Marriage isn't about sex. It's about a stable environment to raise children This is the only reason why I would get married. Children are raised best in a two-person household with a father and a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:49 AM
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It really doesn't matter since I will never rely on my potential partner financially, but if I had to choose I will take the girl who makes 20k since the more money a woman makes the more masculine traits she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:27 AM
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A woman having a career does not make you sexier, a woman could be making $80,000 a year will but be a 3 out of 10 and I still wouldn't date her. Women look for long-term financial stability while men look for attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:51 AM
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So what I'm getting from this is that although she's not meeting my needs I should still be meeting hers. That is ridiculous, if I'm ready for sex and she is not I'm just gonna move on to someone else, I'm not gonna wait for her to have intimacy with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:53 PM
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This is why I always tell men not to take advice about dating from most women, they will only say politically correct things not actually ways of attracting the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:46 PM
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Reality is sexist whether people want to accept it or not, there are privileges that women have that men don't and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:45 PM
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A lot of women don't understand that the men they want in a relationship will also have their fair share of wants and needs that the ladies cant meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:40 PM
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The longest I'm willing to wait is three dates, after that, I'm moving on to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:36 PM
1

Most modern day men follow the "Nice guy" strategy if were being honest here. The men 50 years ago were a lot more assertive and dominant with men in the present being more passive and for lack of a better word beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:47 AM
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A woman is no more mature in her 30s than she is when she’s a teenager. This is legit not true, the human brain does not stop developing until the age of 25. A woman in her 30's is going to function differently than a woman in her teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:43 AM
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Porn is something that’s become popular because women reserve access to sex for only celebrity status men. I half way agree with this, it is true that because of some woman high standards sex is harder for men to obtain, but a lot of men nowadays lack the necessary dating skills to pursue woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:33 AM
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Men just don’t want to be made to wait for sex when a woman is known to put out fast. Agreed, why wait for a woman to give me sex when I know 1, she gave it up a lot faster to other men and 2, there will be other woman who will want intimacy more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:29 AM
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"Women should only ever be a complement to a man's life, never the focus of it". Men should be more focused on improving themselves and building a career than chasing women for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:41 PM
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I'm in college, so yea college.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:39 PM
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If I ask a woman out on a date is because I want to have intimacy with her, with that being said I don't expect her to fuck me just because I asked her out on a date and paid for it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:24 PM
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A man should be organized and clean, but if he's the primary provider of the family it's the woman's job to keep the house in order.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:31 AM
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