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Humans aren't wolves though, they are apes, and apes do have alphas. Not that humans should take that to the extreme, but wolves not having alphas is not applicable to humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:56 PM
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Adrenaline probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:01 PM
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Accounting is still relatively easy/not that bad compared to most science/medical/engineering disciplines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:44 PM
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Almost every older hunter I know/go hunting with has massive hearing loss. I don’t know how they even bare shooting without ear protection on. I made that mistake the first time I ever shot a gun and it was seriously painful/could almost cause you to fall to your knees. If anyone here has never shot a gun and wants to one day please wear hearing protection 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:28 PM
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I think seeing a healthy relationship would help when you get into a relationship. I don't think it would help if the main problem is being unable to get first dates in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:13 PM
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I think my parents prob weren't worried/didn't think to intervene bc I had a tight knit group of friends in High School. I just am not good at dating/talking to women or getting them to be attracted to me it seems. So I don't think they would have looked for that early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:48 PM
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I've seen some on here say that if their kid/adult kid was heavily struggling with dating that they'd try to help/intervene. But how though, in a realistic way? I heavily struggle with dating and I don't think there's anything my parents could have done. Something like this is pretty out of their control besides basic platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:41 PM
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How do you know much of what you’re doing though without the experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:49 AM
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I would never mention it, just nervous she would prob find out when the time comes since I don’t know what I’m doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:37 AM
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Even if directly asked one day I might just try to be vague/get around it lol. I don’t like admitting it to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:35 AM
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Lie about inexperience or be truthful? I’m 22 doesn’t seem like women are very forgiving of it in the 20s lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:38 AM
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I find journaling doesn’t really help me much. I find it similar to venting, which doesn’t really work for me as I don’t have solutions to the issue. As bad as people say it is, bottling it up seems like the better solution for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:32 PM
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Yeah, nobody really gets it tbh. I try to drown out the feelings with hobbies/distractions, but they come back when I am alone at night or hear about someone experiencing attraction and stuff that goes along with it. I'm not sure there really is a fix besides experiencing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:12 PM
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Yeah, it’s basically just looking from the outside in every time the subject comes up, which really sucks. On top of really wanting to know what these things (kissing, making out, etc.) feel like for myself after hearing about how they are some of the greatest pleasures with the right person, I also just feel like a child every time sex/relationships is bought up and have nothing to contribute. It’s not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:09 PM
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I guess I'm purple/leaning black. I prob would have to get some success to change my mind, or at least get some hint of attraction from a woman I'm interested in to feel better. And I guess meeting someone/people that may have had my experience also. For example, people tell me that it is not that odd that I am 22 and have no experience with the opposite sex, but the majority of men I meet who are my age/around my age have a lot of experience. Even in HS, my friend group was getting their first …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:48 AM
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Not very good compared to how I imagined. I'm pretty far behind in terms of what a typical 22 yo has accomplished/experienced. I have periods where I get over the feelings of sadness over it but I can't fend them off for too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:44 AM
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I'd have concerns over delaying aging due to over population and the such. Plus, I'm not sure I'd want to live to like 150. That is an insanely long time in human awareness. I feel like time would seem like it is crawling at the later years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:47 PM
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Four more years also seems like a long time but it isn't. 21 to 22 flew by for me and now I'm halfway to 23 and I feel like I just turned 22 a few weeks ago. I am not a fan of this time going by faster shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:14 AM
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They also weigh like 10 pounds so I'm not too worried lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:13 AM
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Most people underestimate themselves against dogs. I agree that an averagely built male who wants to kill one wouldn't have many problems with it if push really came to shove.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:00 PM
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I'm convinced the elephant part is trolling. No land animal alive can beat a bull elephant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:59 PM
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I mean I wouldn't randomly just do it obviously, but If I was asked in a poll if I would lose to one in a fight my answer would not be yes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:10 PM
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​ <image> This poll is pretty hilarious to me if it's true. On one hand, even though it's a relatively low percentage, too many people think they can beat gorillas/lions hand to hand unarmed. But why are so many brits convinced they would lose to a goose. And why do like 20 percent or more think they would lose to a house cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:52 PM
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Getting into relationships isn't supposed to be unfathomably difficult, it's just hard for certain guys like me and others. But it explains why others find it weird/ask why we are struggling are so much. Tbh, I can't really blame them, if something came easily to you your whole life, you wouldn't really think of those who struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:51 PM
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Catching up with old friends is one of the main things that keeps me going/motivated so I got to agree with this one tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:50 PM
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Pain
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:35 PM
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Beautiful face every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:44 AM
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For some reason some people on who would win reddit are convinced 1 house cat can do serious damage on a normal man I don’t know what’s wrong with them 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:01 AM
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I mean they can and have, pitbulls killing humans usually happen with women and young children. The man is much heavier, much stronger, can use his weight to break several of the pits bones, and choke it out. Most people panic which gives the dog the advantage from the jump. And also a pure bred pit is not a large breed. The non mixed ones weigh like 50-60 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:49 AM
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It’s pretty rare it seems especially if going away for college. Your circle is prob just biased towards not experiencing it since you said you are all nerdy students lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:39 AM
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Yeah probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:33 AM
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Nah I will still drink them if I see them available lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:31 AM
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With no other options would you rather have to fight an enraged pitbull or four enraged house cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:29 AM
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I think the average man could fight off a healthy pitbull if determined, so yes. But fear is a natural reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:27 AM
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An average man determined could take out a full grown pit, let alone a malnourished one. Most men outweigh normal pits by 100-120 pounds and have much more muscle mass. Pitbulls mostly seriously harm women/young children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:27 AM
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Considering the damage some of them can do fear is kind of warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:40 AM
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Damn that's rough, it's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:23 PM
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What's with all these clowns on subs where they say modern life is terrible cause of a 9-5 corporate job and they wish they could go back thousands of years/off grid/hunter gatherer time. If they struggle this much with amenities like tech, ac, running water, heat, they would get folded in like 10 seconds back in those times lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:33 PM
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What exactly is a virgin looking guy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:23 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:35 PM
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I like rottweilers more too. And I still don't really trust pits that much even though rotties are bigger lol. Though I think I could fight either dog off if push came to shove.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:34 PM
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The U.S. is in it's own unique situation compared to other countries though. Australia probably never had 400 million guns in the country, which america does. That's millions of more guns than people at this point, it's going to be very hard to close that up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:30 PM
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Nothing is supposed to happen really lol. It just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:29 PM
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For some people it gets better. For me I was much happier at 18 than I am now at 22 tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:14 PM
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Yes, most studies show that a ton of men who ask for help end up committing suicide anyway. It’s really sad tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:02 PM
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Yeah that prob is their logic tbh. But it’s still almost insensitive to suggest someone killing themselves has the same problem as someone who has to deal with creepiness once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:13 AM
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The help programs are often ineffective. Between 30 and 80 percent of men who commit suicide sought help before their decision. The just world fallacy is strong in your post lol. And your appeal to ideals is so delusional it’s almost unreal. “We shouldn’t have any war period.” Do you live in the real world dude? This is living in la la land on steroids. This will never happen and suggesting it is almost comical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:04 AM
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The comment was clearly implying in the case that he changed his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:50 PM
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It’s unusual but understandable if you never wanted one. But if you do at some point desire one, never volunteer this information to potential women you are dating. It’s a red flag for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:03 PM
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Not really. Apparently most men are bad at sex anyway according to women, so it’s more likely they’ll just assume they aren’t good rather than inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:29 PM
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The man has much more to lose for admitting inexperience than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:29 PM
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Nah, usually men are blamed much more for their problems than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:46 PM
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Not to be insensitive, but suicide or dying in a war is so much worse than this that it is almost comical to compare the two. Getting approached by creeps vs offing yourself is not in any way of the same magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:38 PM
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Most studies show that between a third and eighty percent of men who commit suicide had sought help before the act. This indicates that either they didn't give the full extent of their problems, the help they received did not work, or that their problems simply were not fixable with therapy. So, even when men seek help, it often is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:37 PM
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Yeah I agree with this. While we do live in the best time period in terms of safety/crime, cost of living is insanely stressful for most people to contemplate. I realized that I prob won’t ever be able to buy a house without dual income that you get from being married/dating, and that’s not an inspiring realization. This can definitely affect dating prospects also.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:37 PM
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More evidence that there’s zero reason to ever voluntarily disclose your inexperience as a man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:35 PM
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You’ll never find consistency in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:31 PM
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Good morning, good rising sounds stupid af
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:30 PM
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Damn that’s pretty cool lol. Yeah idk why guys feel the need to to volunteer their inexperience. Even if she found out eventually, you’ll have experience now and you get that pre selection factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:11 PM
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Maybe, but it’s possible that men who don’t struggle with suicidal thoughts are far more likely to get married in the first place, so we don’t have a definitive answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:01 AM
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It’s really only a viable strategy assuming the decline doesn’t reach a point where it affects you. And if it doesn’t, it’s hard to even say it’s a true decline at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:58 AM
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This is why it’s just best to lie if you are a man in this position. Way too risky to tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:57 AM
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This isn’t always avoidable. Especially as friends start getting married/having kids and you are the only single one left and it becomes harder to stay in touch. And it seems men are just more prone to isolation in general for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:04 PM
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Suicide prob doesn’t have to do much with being married. People who have their mind set on it will do it no matter if single or married eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:58 PM
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Except being single is actually prob much more stressful to being married to the right person, especially for men. Think about it. Insane cost of living now a days, by yourself you are on your own, with a partner you have two incomes which makes things much easier. Have to clean everything by yourself, never take turns cooking, and you know in the back of your head that if you founder you are on your own if you don’t have a good support group while single. Add all the other benefits a good marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:57 PM
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Yeah but the issue is therapy is recommended for every single little situation and problem now a days. Not every problem requires therapy. In addition to the financial cost, it apparently takes several tries to even find a good therapist for most people. On top of financial responsibilities and time constraints, it doesn’t seem like a realistic situation for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:35 PM
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I actually have yelled at them, but it’s only really a temporary fix before they ask the same question a few months later. It’s like this with the rest of my fam too, asking me about dating/why I haven’t bought anyone home yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:41 PM
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I was pissed but not much I could do anyway, what was I supposed to say 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:34 PM
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To get with an extraordinary woman you need to be extraordinary yourself, and most guys who reach my age without experience usually are not extraordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:43 PM
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Apps or shared hobbies/bars seem the only way. If you don’t have a mixed social circle that meets new single women often it’s basically playing on impossible level difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:28 PM
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Yeah this is probably it. The consistency of having it prob makes them forget it is important, and it only becomes important again once something interferes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:53 PM
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Ah, maybe it’s different in a professional setting. My small group of people I talk to hasn’t really bought it up besides the quick mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:33 PM
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Yeah, I agree that if you lose it then then the few years struggling maybe aren’t a big deal. It becomes a problem when people continue to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:31 PM
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Eh, not really, especially if you are busy with other stuff. I’ve been pretty occupied with things lately and Valentine’s Day coming up completely slipped my mind. I assume it’s different if you are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:30 PM
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Yeah I’d prob agree that the first time isn’t a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But I’d argue that being able to have a consistent sex life throughout life is a big deal, and missing out on that prob is a little detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:58 PM
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Yeah I can prob agree on that somewhat. But a good amount of the time, it is the same people who perpetuate those messages. I think what happens if that they got it so easily/never had to think about it much that it really isn’t a big deal to them, because they know they’ll never have to worry about not having it. But these same people will say that sex with someone you love is one of the best feelings out there, but somehow dont make the connection after saying that that it is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:56 PM
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Yeah, I think the argument is sort of like “it’s like air, you only think of it once you don’t have it.” But that still means it’s actually quite a huge deal, both in relationships and just life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:34 PM
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I wouldn’t expect it bc I should be able to fight off any random woman with not much trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:15 PM
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Are you in the US? Politics in the US are a lot more charged/drastic in the us today so it is seen as a huge deal here. In other countries it seems like people aren’t as torn apart over politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:12 PM
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Boring class or are you just always tired?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:09 PM
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I’m gonna get called salty but idc, but as an inexperienced man seeing people spam sex isn’t a big deal seems odd, especially when you see posts about relationships imploding over a lack of it, or “I become so irritable after a while without sex” or “Sex is one of the greatest pleasures of life.” Is the argument meant to be sex isn’t a big deal when you’re single or something? 😂😂. Bc it seems to fuck up a lot of shit in a relationship once there is a lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:08 PM
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I think this is dangerous though. Usually women like their man to have some experience/to know what he is doing with sex and dating. If you intentionally avoid those things, it can end up back firing later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:02 PM
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I’ve sort of done the same as you where I convince myself of hope to avoid tanking my mental state, but the problem is even though it works for a while it eventually comes crashing down on me pretty hard. But if you can keep it up I guess it would work pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:01 PM
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Mostly bc I don’t believe it happens unless the man is somewhat attractive/passes the threshold for looks anyway. And since I’ve never personally passed their threshold for looks, it’s hard to communicate the importance of chemistry to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:42 PM
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Yeah but what if you at least think you have a good relationship with yourself already and love yourself, but just struggle with getting attraction from others? I don’t think that everyone who struggles with dating has a self worth issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:31 AM
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Bc my feelings most likely will not go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:55 PM
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Comparing anything we experience to the span of our entire lives though is stupid. Then pretty much any event is meaningless. And a human life is actually pretty long through the human perspective, I don't agree with the whole idea of life being short lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:34 PM
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I’m pretty sure that study was flawed, though I’d be interested in new studies that prove this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:10 PM
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Yeah that makes sense. But if they say they do care I’m not sure what parents could realistically do anyway. A kids dating life is largely out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:38 PM
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Sure, but I don’t think selfishness is always a bad thing tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:38 PM
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The last point is an okay one but it’s overstated. Yes, you can focus on loving yourself, but humans are very social animals and having no experience with romance your entire life isn’t exactly healthy. So even someone with good self esteem could be affected by this. Second, I don’t think therapists are meant to be helping you with dating advice lol. It’s good for other things, but it’s also very hard for people to fit in their schedule, especially if they are busy with full time jobs and managi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:42 PM
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Hmmm, I’d say normal is getting your first kiss/make out in hs/college and losing your virginity around the same time period or a little later. Like 17-19. And as far as the rest goes, I’d say a decent sex life in a ltr and maybe like four-five long term relationships would be normal throughout life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:34 PM
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Ah I’m going to have to agree to disagree with you on this one. It usually just doesn’t disappear for me. As another guy stated below, unreciprocated feelings/attraction can often be quite painful for me/us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:24 PM
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Yeah this is said pretty well. I think it’s easier to get over things if you know in the back of your head that you’ll have other opportunities come along, or somewhat of an abundance mindset. When you have very little or virtually no romantic/dating prospects like me I find it hard to just move on and go “ah well there will be someone else.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:21 PM
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Yeah from what I’ve heard basically, if you don’t make your interest known fast things won’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:15 PM
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I mean, that’s just the risk people take then when trying to start romantic relationships with people. If a woman wants to date a man and something goes wrong I don’t think it means “her wanting to fuck him>him.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:14 PM
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Usually if I’m interested in them I’d ask them out/on a date and see what their response is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:10 PM
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Well, sometimes in the midst of developing a friendship feelings develop and I feel it would be wrong/kind of impossible after a while to hide them for an extended period of time, so I thought that showing interest is better than just continuing to develop the friendship when you’re really interested in the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:47 AM
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I don’t think I’m just confusing online statements, I’ve been told this irl too when sharing my experiences with people I’ve asked for advice previously on what can maybe help my chances with getting dates/being able to be seen as a romantic prospect to somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:45 AM
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By a real life relationship do you mean a romantic one? No, no sex experiences/kiss either or any of that lol. I’m talking about irl friendships with guys I know who also struggle and we often deal with the same advice. And by friend, I don’t necessarily mean a super deep friendship. I mean someone I’ve gotten to know as part of a group and we are friendly with each other and hang out with the group that we are a part of somewhat often.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:38 AM
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It’s not really about dealing with discomfort to restore the friendship back to normal state tbh. It’s that if I see someone as a potential romantic prospect I’m interested in, after rejection, I probably wouldn’t want to continue hanging out/being friends with them for extended periods as it’d just be a reminder/hurt to know that you desire something more with this person and it will never happen. That’s often why I have to distance myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:36 AM
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Oh it’s not like once a month lol, it tends to happen if it’s with someone I find attractive and we’ve known each other for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:32 AM
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I don’t think I can just turn my feelings off like that honestly. If I find her attractive and we get along really well they just kind of naturally develop. Plus I think maybe I’m hopeful of finally being seen as a romantic/sexual prospect to someone (never have) rather than always being seen in a friendly way so maybe I get a little too anxious when I have a friendship with someone that I could see progressing further and set myself up for further disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:30 AM
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Based off of what exactly? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:13 AM
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Yeah I can’t speak to what other guys do I guess with this. I’ve wanted a relationship more but I guess I could see some using it to have sex but then just ghost/friendzone after. But that seems like a super long game to try and play rather than just making your interest known fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:12 AM
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Yeah I honestly gotta agree with this. Seems the judgement really is based off of if the person was successful getting into a relationship with the person he became friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:04 AM
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Yeah I can see and understand being hurt by it. But it's not that we didn't value the friendship, it just really hurts wanting more than a friendship with someone you have feelings for and knowing you'll never get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:36 AM
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Well yeah, you'll find no argument from me there. But you said that the main thing women value men for is platonic company, which is where I disagree with you. Complaining less about the friendzone isn't mutually exclusive with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:07 AM
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No, I really don't see dishonesty lol. I do enjoy friendship, but If I'm attracted to the person and catch feelings for them I do like to make my interest known. If It doesn't work out, it doesn't mean that I never wanted friendship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:49 PM
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I don't blame anyone else for my issue, but it does make me sad that my parents prob view me this way. And it is what it is, some people just aren't very good at dating/getting attraction from potential partners. It sucks but not every issue can be solved fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:46 PM
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I think I have to agree to disagree, I don’t think women mostly value men for the platonic company, but you prob wouldn’t agree with what I do think they value them for mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:41 PM
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And what would you say a man's main value to a woman is? It might not be sex, but I don't think it's some super noble reason either, so I don't think it makes much of a diff tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:21 PM
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I don't think repeatedly developing feelings is a bad thing if you find the person attractive and can see yourself as being a good partner to them. I guess that's where I differ from the majority opinion on this. I've had women friends but I do catch feelings for some often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:20 PM
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Well obv I won't lie and say attractiveness/sexual attractiveness does not matter, but I don't think that is a bad thing that it does matter. No one wants to date someone they don't find attractive. And I think most men do value intelligence in their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:01 PM
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Yeah the question isn’t phrased well in the title I’ll admit lol. I was trying to say that a good amount of people will assume that if a guy expresses sadness about asking out a woman friend of his and ends the friendship that the only reason he became friends was to potentially have sex with her. I wonder why it’s never considered that the man could have developed feelings for her after becoming friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:54 PM
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It’s not that we were never friends or don’t want to be friends honestly, it’s that it hurts when I want something more with the person and I know I won’t be able to get it, so I feel like it’s best if we both move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:45 PM
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lol I feel you. Once I get super focused on one thing I can’t change it it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:44 PM
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I think people misjudge/assume guys are faking the friendship. I think it's common for a guy to develop feelings and then get accused of using the person if it doesn't work out for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:06 PM
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Well yeah, finding the middle ground is hard though. I've only had one sort of date experience, and it didn't go well at all, and I haven't got dates before or since, and just rejection. People say learn from trial and error, but it's very difficult when you don't even get to first base to learn from what you are doing. I have tried somewhat of a balance between asking out immediately vs never making my interest known, but it hasn't done much for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:05 PM
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The thing is, I've asked people irl about it too, and they generally tell me this. But then I am either told that I coming on too strong when the interest is shown early on, or told that I am using the friendship in hopes of something more if I try that approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:39 PM
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I feel the same lol. Have trouble being productive pretty often and not finding a lot of things enjoyable to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:21 PM
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It’s not necessarily about excuses, it’s that a lot of kids don’t really end up following their parents same life trajectory/experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:59 PM
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By adult age, I mean someone like in my case, 22/early 20s and a few years removed from turning 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:52 PM
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I don’t think it’s that they don’t have self respect. I think humans are very social and romance is part of that. So in my case, seeing like 90 percent of your peers easily obtain these experiences can be pretty frustrating/isolating. You say there are ways to make sure it never reaches that point, but how? Outside of general advice, there’s not much parents can do for their kids’ dating success besides offer encouragement and the other usual platitudes people hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:51 PM
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Well things don’t always turn out well for people lol. My parents were both romantically successful, I’m sure they didn’t think their son would have never kissed anyone by 22 or any of that, but here we are. Some things are out of parents control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:49 PM
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A full on arranged marriage id be kind of ashamed of. My self esteem is already low over this so admitting that I couldn’t get it done like 99 percent of people would prob be crushing imo. I think part of it is an ego thing too, I’d love to feel like I was attractive enough/good at flirting to the point where a woman wanted to go out with me, kiss me, have sex with my etc. So if I couldn’t get it done through those means it’d prob be an ultimate ego crusher, but I guess if all hope is lost match…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:48 PM
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I meant it is natural for parents to be worried/disappointed, not that dating comes to people naturally. Although I actually do think it is, I think dating is like everything else in life where some people are just naturally better at it than others, some a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:32 PM
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Society is nowhere near finished. We just see more discontent people online venting about it/and the problem is exaggerated somewhat. The reality is that the world will always keep spinning barring a catastrophe and that individual lives don’t really prevent the world from continuing to go round and round. As a lonely/discontent guy myself, I’ve realized that even though I’m not content, that it is not a society wide issue and that if something happened to me/I was no longer around there would o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:29 PM
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Okay dumb question but what is a super swipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:46 PM
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How do you even get into doing it if you really don’t want to? Maybe it’s different for a woman but I wouldn’t be able to get aroused if my mind really didn’t want to get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:34 PM
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Are you in America? I think they approach here less than in other countries perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah it kind of stung to read that but at the same time I appreciate the blunt view point on the matter 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:27 PM
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Chad sure, but I would like to have some of the normal expected romantic/sexual success. It kind of hurts to see your peers excel far from you in that way, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:13 PM
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I would really want it with someone I’m attracted to plus love. I think it provides great things in life, such as companionship, romantic love, sex, other physical affection which is good for you etc I do somewhat see the status aspect of it. Married people are generally more respected/seen as put together than single. But I would be sad if I could never achieve it mostly due to missing out on things I stated in the first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:10 PM
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I’m 22 and most agree it’s weird that I haven’t had a kiss/sex or any of that yet. My plan is to just hide it from any potential partners unless they deliberately ask, assuming I get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:26 PM
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I’m pretty sure this poster you are replying to is a woman, so not having a male frame doesn’t really apply to them being unattractive here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:15 PM
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Would you feel sad if you kid thought of themselves less as a man/woman and felt left out by lacking these experiences? These are common feelings in inexperienced people I know. But I’m not sure how much parents could help realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:12 PM
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Yeah that’s also a somewhat common experience. I’ve been accused of ruining the friendship or only being friends to get in there pants after saying I was interested in a woman friend of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:03 PM
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Eh I still think 19 is a somewhat normal age to lose it? When you start getting near 23 like me I think it’s a lot more abnormal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:47 PM
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Yeah the contradicting messages are crazy too. Like complaining that they aren’t approached but saying they don’t want to be. It reminds me of similarly hearing that you shouldn’t become friends with women to get in their pants, but then if you make your attraction clear to them early on it’s “oh my god you just want her for sex!!” 😂 At this point I’ve received so many contradicting messages that I’m discouraged from trying any longer lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:32 PM
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I would say if she is flirting back it'd prob be best to try continuing then. Obv if she seems uninterested I would not, but if she seems interested I wouldn't want to throw away a potential opportunity, so I say you should go for it honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:11 PM
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Well I can assure you I'm not a violent psycho lol, but I guess it won't matter if you already have your mind made up like that about inexperienced men. I would say I just feel lonely/left out and strongly desire having a romantic connection with a woman, but don't relate to the rage the other online incels usually have. I prob can't change your perspective but most lonely guys I've talked to have been the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:15 PM
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Oh yeah I've heard that one too, but you prob gotta ignore it at some point or else it will having you believing that you can never approach women what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:06 PM
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I don’t think it’s a refusal to learn, it’d just be failure at getting a woman’s attraction/attention to the point where she considers you a viable romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:54 PM
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Like the general definition of incel or the woman hating type? I agree with you if it’s the first point but I don’t think most men will turn into raging misogynistic psychos if they don’t get success with women. I think most are like me or other older inexperienced men I’ve talked to where we are just lonely and don’t really bother anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:51 PM
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Yeah but what exactly can you do though? Outside of platitudes, I don’t think expressing this sentiment to your child would be taken very well and most parents can’t realistically “intervene” in a helpful way anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:48 PM
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I think it’s natural tbh and I can somewhat see where they are coming from. I have told them that I’ve wanted to have those experiences, so I think the disappointment comes from their son being unable to achieve what mostly comes naturally for a ton of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:46 PM
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Yeah the compassionate comments still seem as a slight, but they are rarely compassionate. It’s more to the effect of “We’re concerned bc most people your age have done something and you haven’t.” Which I get where they are coming from. It’s hard not to feel like it hurts my self worth being left out/missing out on an activity that seems pretty core to the human experience/comes super easily to others, but I usually just try to block out those thoughts, though sometimes I can’t and I just ride t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:42 PM
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I don’t think I’m an unsocialized loser per say, but I never really got how to attract women/pertain to them more on the level of just a friend lol, and I don’t think parents can really give any useful intervention to change that outside of platitudes/emotional comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:37 PM
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Yeah but how exactly do you “intervene” though? Outside of generic conversations that the kid is prob gonna be embarrassed to have anyway, I don’t think most parents can effectively help their kids with their struggles dating besides offering support/platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:35 PM
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It really does seem like you can’t win outside of approaching at the most common places like bars or clubs. Everything else gets labeled “no not there, she’s there to do an activity.” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:03 PM
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Well, we are told not to really approach women mostly to not bother them. So if you don’t really go to places where approaching is more acceptable (bars for example) then it’s not surprising that guys don’t approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:36 PM
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Humanity has no shot of doing anything going interstellar barring some ridiculous technology that makes traveling near the speed of light possible. Voyager 1 may be in interstellar space, but it’s also been traveling at like 11 km/s for ages now and it hasn’t even come close to traveling a single light year. The distances in space are way too large. Edit: Yeah I just looked it up and voyager 1 has traveled about 94 astronomical units, the distance between the earth and sun. A light year is a lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:53 PM
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100 years is too long of a time to predict reliably. While it’s a blip in universe scale, it’s a long time for us humans. Everyone on this sub Reddit will be dead in 100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:50 PM
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Yes. Mostly because I’ve heard sex feels much better than jerking off, and bc of the validation aspect of a woman finding me attractive enough to actually have sex with me. My chances of obtaining casual are basically near zero since I can’t even get a relationship and casual seems harder , but I will admit it seems appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:49 PM
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Having to become a billionaire isn’t a realistic thing for anyone let alone ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:28 PM
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Nah once you get into top tier status it doesn’t matter. Yes, not everybody likes sports, but it won’t be a significant enough difference in numbers where it’s gonna make an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:22 PM
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Allowing your kid to talk to someone else like that is crazy and so disrespectful lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:19 PM
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It’s Long Island so public land is pretty close to houses. My guess is they saw him scouting out land with a bow and arrow lol. Either that or he’s an old school hunter who leaves the deer on top of their car after they kill it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:09 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2OXWzMCLSQ/?igsh=MTl2NWJ5ajBudHd4eQ== My urge to slap this kid would be pretty high ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:04 PM
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Nah i am kind of like this when the laugh is like the hyena laugh i get triggered so fast 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:02 PM
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So just like before you were born? I don’t get why this is a massive revelation to some people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:21 PM
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Well if there is a designer they prob are incredibly flawed themselves, considering all the bs they decided to create the universe with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:26 PM
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Try to bury yourself in hobbies/exercise. It’s not a cure obviously but it works for me most of the time, besides the pangs of loneliness/empty chest feeling I get. I know it still sucks but that’s the best I got lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:28 AM
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She’s prob just trying to be helpful lmao. My mom has said some stuff I thought was out of pocket but I realized she’s just concerned prob and doesn’t know what to say 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:20 AM
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Glad things turned out well, yeah I have hope I will find a way eventually. I do think I’m doing well in some aspects, the uncertainty just scares me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:00 AM
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That’s great, I love escaping from big city life. I hunt a good amount and my friend owns a hunting cabin and it’s great getting a nice cozy stay in a warm place far away from city life imo 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:58 PM
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Yeah I see people say this but it’s hard when you are so unaccomplished/meh compared to some of your peers. I’ve hit some milestones but not many others that a lot of people my age (22) have so it’s hard not to compare. Hopefully I can feel more grown up eventually 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:41 PM
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I agree with some of the top other answers. Therapy is kind of said just to deflect/get people to shut up. I do believe in its value, but don’t think it’s really supposed to be helpful for people who want to be more successful at dating. Asking for advice from more successful people in their lives is better imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:30 PM
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I mean I hope I'd be able to get good at it eventually lol, would hate to be bad forever. One of the best, sure, but I think becoming one of the best dancers of all time or fastest swimmer is significantly harder than being good at sex, don't ya think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:51 PM
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I mean at first yeah but I would like to think that after an amount of time I could become very good/one of her best. I prob wouldn’t want to be stuck at mediocre forever 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:22 AM
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Maybe not entirely happy with yourself, but humans are very social animals and we do tend to want to fit in/have social success. Sex can be seen as this somewhat, its validation from others that you are attractive to them. I’d find it hard to believe that a lot of people can go through their entire life without physical attraction being reciprocated and not get a little sad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:58 PM
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Because I’d like to actually know I’m somewhat skilled/am able to pleasure my partner to the extent where I’m one of her best. I wouldn’t like if I was just “okay” to her basically but she was happy enough with it. That doesn’t exactly sound inspiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:15 PM
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I’d agree with sex not being love on its own but it is validation lol. It’s validation that someone found you attractive enough to want to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:12 PM
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Eh I’d kind of prefer for my partner to at least think I’m one of her best. I’d feel pretty bad if she thought the sex with this one partner was super wild/invigorating/ and with me it’s just good but not that great. Maybe it’s bc i have no experience and want to be able to measure up somehow but I would like for my partner to think I’m one of her best 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:52 PM
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I guess I can see your perspective somewhat. I am stressed though bc it's a sign that I'm quite behind the curve in terms of social development, not just FOMO. I also would like to see what being in love/what mutual attraction is like I guess. Also, as a man it's kind of expected I take a more active role/initiate with women, so I can't just really wait and say "if it happens it happens."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:54 PM
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I think it’s a little different when you are that young and have no experience. When you are 22 and haven’t done anything you start becoming a little more concerned lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:51 PM
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Damn the bills really are ass can never beat this frog no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:50 AM
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Oh yeah men are also very bad at being sympathetic to struggles with it. That’s why most men learn to keep it to themselves besides with people we really trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:56 AM
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I think it might be bc they’ve had bad experiences opening up to women family members in the past. Now, I don’t believe every wife will leave their husband if he struggles with mental health/other stuff. But I can see where they come from, I have never received a positive response from people irl when talking about mental health issues. Just something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:22 AM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:20 AM
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Maybe I will forgive em eventually, I just worry that if I can’t find any success by my late 20s/30s what their reaction will be. My mom made a comment to the effect of “You need to start trying to date, most people have had some relationships by your age” and that really stung lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:12 PM
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Thank you, it does make me feel pretty horrible/an empty lonely feeling in my chest being the outlier in terms of romance in my family. Hanging up on you like that after asking is super rude/uncalled for though, hope you’re doing okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:59 PM
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Actually it’s funny bc I’m back here now just seeing how it is here since it’s been a while since I’ve been on here (2 years about).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:45 PM
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Sorry you know that pain too. My mom is similar about me not having a relationship at 22, she excluded me from vacation plans once with the family/my brother and his girlfriend because I don’t have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:43 PM
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I think there’s a difference between settling as compromising and accepting you might not get everything you want in an ideal partner, and settling as in not being that attracted to someone but dating/marrying them cause you are afraid of living life alone. The former I don’t think is terrible, but I would hate to be settled for if it was the latter and that’s what my partner thought about me. I don’t think the latter is very common, but it prob happens a good amount of times still. Drive for co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:02 PM
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I think it’s easier to find someone here if you are accomplished/high-status and stuff like that. For mediocre/people who don’t stand out much like me, you start to feel like an NPC after a while 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:15 AM
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I think NYC is too high pressure for me in some ways lol. On top of the COL there’s lots of men here who are super accomplished/high status which isn’t me so I guess that somewhat offsets there being more women in the city than men. Like a small fish in a big pond in some ways lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:54 PM
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Definitely uncomfortable lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:48 PM
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I’d recommend the IPhone 15+ (know you said you’re a Samsung girl though lol) if you want an absurd battery life mixed with good camera and stuff. For Samsung I’ve heard the s23 ultra is pretty amazing too fwiw so I’d go with that if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:12 PM
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