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Only 20% of people finish university in EU, now you gonna tell me you wont try university because 80% fails? 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:28 PM
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You have a biased perception of life because of the things that happened to you. If I want to love you, of course there has to be attractiveness and therefore your looks matter just as your personality does. They matter for you as well when you view a man. If people dont pass a certain threshold of looks, they just arent attractive to us. Does that all make us second rank citizens? No. This makes us people that find certain people attractive physically, and other people not. Like we also find ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:20 AM
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A minority group? There are more women than man in the US, it by definition cannot be a minority 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:00 AM
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That really depends on the country. In the Netherlands you can get married while having seperate finances for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:41 PM
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Really depends on whether we have kids or not. Without kids -> fair game to me. Why would I pay for a womans expense if she earns enough money and we are living at her level of means? Just because im making more money doesnt mean shes entitled to that money. With a kid its different as theres upkeep for the kid, usually maternal relief for the woman so she has missed income. But i think it could still could be fair. Really depends. My main criteria is if the woman would lose income by being in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:37 PM
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Thats a good point hah, didnt think about it like that. So you’re saying red pilled people are on average people that had more set backs? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:28 PM
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Of course a blue pilled can have money and a red pilled can have personality. But I’m talking about averages. If your life revolves around making money (people who believe in red pill), then you’d expect them to have on average more money than someone that cares less about money. Regarding your other questions, Role of family mindset red pill prob have a more traditional household view In Relationships, red pillers see things more in transactional terms (I provide money in exchange for your affe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:08 PM
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Im not homophobic, I just thought he was gay initially due to not many man complimenting me and associating - due to conditioning - compliments with sexual intent. He can be gay all he wants 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:48 PM
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I think you need to make some more assumptions about this question. Lets assume that what you believe in determines what you aim for, and therefore determines outcome in life. If blue pill = love is about personality, there is no dating market, your ‘value’ doesnt matter And red pill = status, looks, money matters. Women are hypergamous. Your value is your worth. Then I would assume on average the red piller will be richer, better looking (as in focuses on this, gym etc) and has more status. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:51 PM
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Im not doubting the relativity of it. Im doubting the extent of it. Really numerical and with broad strokes: NL: a woman who’s a 4 looks at 4-10 range for relationship US a woman who’s a 4 looks at 8-10 range for relationship. Also that the execution of hypergamy depends on the culture and what people value in general. If people value money less (like in EU compared to US), its also less important for hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:38 PM
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I think theres a huge selection bias in focusing on social media and articles to hear women say they want millionaires. Would you ever go and be in an article? Prob not. Big selection bias in the women / men that do want to be in those articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:30 PM
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Agree with you. I took the cultural angle as i thought it may explain some things, but def agree even in US its not like that in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:13 PM
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I did in Mexico and Colombia. What should I have experienced? 😄 You mean it was easier to get a woman? Definitely noticed that. Im not disputing that you get more woman as you are more attractive relative to your other man because you’re taller, richer, and exotic as European 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:48 PM
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Well marriage rates dont support it. Apparently a lot of couples are just able to love each other fine. But that wasnt the goal of this post. I take a hypothetical where I assume its true but may differ per continent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:31 PM
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I can assure you im not a brokie 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:20 PM
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Well written
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:11 PM
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Solid post 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:59 PM
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Think it has to be a bit of give and take. The mind is very powerful in what you find attractive or not. Not a supermodel but doable? Find some other elements you love about this person and stop comparing him/her to a very attractive person and you’ll start to find that person attractive. What a person finds attractive is also just a social construct that can be molded and - if the person wants to - can be changed / lowered. If you really only find supermodels attractive as a non-average person …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:30 PM
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Interesting that even from a Canadian perspective (i dont know much about Canada but closer to US geographically at least 😄) you noticed such a big difference. After our conversation I wonder if hypergamy is still there in EU to the same extent as in US, but we just value other aspects. Like personality is huge in EU so saying someone is hypergamous could also be more steered towards personality or even looks instead of money. Or if EU people (specifically NL) generally are more content about li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:35 AM
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Lived in US for 3 years. 2 times as a poor student coming from a poor family. 3rd time as a rich lawyer with an apartment fully paid for by law firm. In NL I barely had more dating opportunities being richer. Dont get me wrong it is important money but its far behind personality and other attributes. In US when I mentioned I was a lawyer and had an apartment for myself with a view on central park, women would clearly become more attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:29 AM
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I also thought that maybe Netherlands is more wealthy + less income equality and welfare system etc and therefore money is less important. I think theres something to be said about how people are grounded in life though. America has the American dream and it seems to be all about achieving your maximum self. Dating and obtaining the perfect partner also seems quite in line with this. Meanwhile in the Netherlands we have a saying ‘just be normal than you’re fine’. We emphasize normality (which al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:26 AM
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Didnt you contradict yourself there? You said that Disney movies have a huge impact on the psyche - yet Disney movies are clearly societal and not biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:20 AM
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You’re right about that. I also want a victoria secret model though, and I also can’t get that and im fine with that. I would say its a matter of still being able to love someone that also is an Aldi cashier. If you can’t / dont want to / then i’d say you are more hypergamous in nature and thats what it feels like in the US. That its ever so important what e.g. income is, instead of accepting that you’d rather want a millionaire but you’re also fine having a relationship with someone of your own…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:13 AM
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Oh definitely, but thats not what hypergamy is though? Hypergamy is wanting to date up. Not wanting an Aldi cashier when you’re higher income is just wanting someone equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:04 AM
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You phrase it well. I think they could if they wanted to, but it seems they want it less than in US. Based on my limited personal perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:02 AM
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Yeah I mean I want a victoria secret model with a nice personality too, but that doesnt mean I can’t love an average woman too. I felt in US there was so much more emphasis on money and status in general though that I think it has some influencing aspect on hypergamy too. As in, it becomes really apparent. Im not doubting theres no hypergamy in my country but it seems much less extrmee than in some parts of US where its 6ft 6fig standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:00 AM
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Another men complimented by smell and I immediately thought ‘are you gay?’. It runs that deep the lack of compliments 😂 It made my hour though, it was nice hearing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:46 AM
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Theres so much weird logic in this post. A high status man wont marry? Why not? A low status man won’t love another low status woman? Why not? I want to bet you have never been in long term relationship (5 years+) before. Am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:35 PM
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You probably never had a girlfriend for a long time In your life? I dont mean this to be harsh or act superior. The moment where a girl lays on your shoulder and you both talk about vulnerable things and your future, creates a bond thats incredibly strong. I cant get those types of moments with a guy friend, and i have no desire to lay in bed with him to talk about my feelings with him 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:42 PM
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Women are no longer economically dependent on man so that allows them to choose more based on their preferences for height and other things. So i’d say probably true that its more prevalent today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:05 PM
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The biggest problem with generalizations is that it typically dumbs down an argument. Let’s say that on average a woman likes a tall man more than a short man. I believe this to be true. This says however nothing about the 19283830 other factors that a woman takes into account in choosing a partner. Maybe it has some effect, the height of a man, but it could be mediated or interacted with with other characteristics or only apply in certain circumstances (eg only if height difference > X or even …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:48 PM
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That was what I was referring to yeah. I agree with you on most items though it remains so incredibly dependent on the man or woman. So while on average I think you’re right, there’s a big variance per individual. For example I dont give a shit about status for myself so obv also neither in the partner I would have. Literally the last thought that would ever be in my mind is ‘this will make me look good among other men’ 😄 Similarly there are a lot of women that also don’t care about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:53 PM
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Expand on that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:23 PM
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Yeah but women care about other things that man care about, so the hypergamy expresses itself differently. Based on anecdotal and life experience on average women care a lot more about the social status of a man than vice versa. Therefore women will want to date the leader of the group etc. While most men dont care about those things. But i’m also not entirely sure how sound hypergamy is as a theory, still thinking about this...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:47 PM
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Not sure it has to do with masculine energy, but its definitely the type of energy you emit. I think it was in the Wolf of Wallstreet, Leonardo Di Caprio and Margot Robbie sit across each other in a restaurant: Leo says ‘married people can’t have friends?’, Margot Robbie says ‘we’re not going to be friends.’ in a seducing manner. Can’t get friendzoned like this 😄 And you’re still not explicitely stating it, but implying what will happen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:07 PM
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I think you added a lot of assumptions and words that hypergamy doesnt entail. Hypergamy just means that woman typically want to go for the best option they have available and want to date ‘up’. Thats it, nothing to do with ‘mean’, ‘honest’, ‘Always on the look out’ and the rest of your post. Using hypergamy to explain all womens behaviour and not take into account 10293739202 other things going on in her brain....makes zero sense. Thats the problem most ‘hypergamy’ red pillers have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:37 PM
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For a lot of women it is. But if you have results being direct, i dont understand what the problem is? Why you made this post lol Yes some women are turned off because they want something long term. Duh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:42 PM
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Depends on the type of uncertainty. Morally i wouldnt lie to a woman about what you want, but you can be indirect about it / really make it clear you want something casual just by the topics you’re speaking about etc without stating ‘hi i want sex tonight with you’. Sure some woman will reject you as they want something long term -> thats great, you dont waste their or your time, and you are an honest guy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:39 PM
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Enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:34 PM
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Weird how nobody talks about how sensuality and attraction is a large part about wanting something what you dont have yet and not being sure if you’ll get it. ‘Yo lets fuck at my place tonight at 20:00’ hardly gets women aroused (nor a lot of man tbh) as its way too upfront and doesn’t leave anything to the imagination. You know you’re getting sex, there’s no ‘chase’ or ‘uncertainty’ and its basically like a business meeting you’re atttending to. It’s boring as fuck. You can be honest while stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:32 PM
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Oh haha 😂 Everything stands besides the low testosterone test then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:09 PM
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Thats cool, as long as you’re happy and feeling fulfilled, I wouldnt worry about it. Definitely agree that fixating on it doesn’t make any sense and will only make it worse. You seem to have less sex drive than other people at your age, which is fine if you feel otherwise good. Could for the fun of it do a testosterone check at a doctor if you wanna see if you have low testosterone. But once again just saying things, if you feel good...you’re good haha Seems you got a reflective head on your sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:53 PM
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Did something specific happen when you were 14 or just naturally you started thinking like this? Having a zoomed out view is really good in solving problems and looking at things from different perspectives. Zooming out could also be somewhat of a disassociating mechanism. Its much easier to endure life when you feel like you dont really live in it. The ability to experience joy and sadness - but also love and desire for sex - are much more magnified when you arent living zoomed out. But could a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:36 PM
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Did you always have that view of seeing things from a zoomed out perspective? When did you start to feel like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:29 PM
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I agree with you. I use pizza as a metaphor as everyone experienced craving some nice pizza 🤤 Sex is even more appealing when you crave it precisely because you cant buy genuine affection. You gotta earn it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:25 PM
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18 still young yeah. I was depressed, stuck in games and anime and only masturbated when I was that age. Had way too much hatred for the world to even consider a thing called love. Now have experienced 2 times real love and a lot more sex, so it can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:21 PM
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That means you’re either asexual OR you probably have some trauma / repressed shit OR you are young and havent experienced it yet OR you require a strong emotional connection before sex. A lot of things possible 😄 Ever been in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:16 PM
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For many people it is because they lack it. Do you have zero pizza? All you can think about is pizza. If you have pizza every day, pizza isnt on your mind and you maybe get even bored of it. Sex is important though. We’re literally wired to have sex. Does it have an overemphasis in some peoples mind? Sure, agree. But it remains important for both man and woman to feel whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:11 PM
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Very blunt: Your second paragraph is correct. People should focus on being happy themselves before being happy with another person. First paragraph: sex is natural desire for 99% of population. Orgasms feel amazing. Sex feels amazing. Theres no closer physical connection to someone than being deep inside them. And we all crave connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:06 PM
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So you got the low standards sorted out. Now go out there and get a girlfriend/sex! 🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:14 AM
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Jerking off literally results in loss of willpower for most man. Short dopamine spike with zero effort -> lower mood afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:12 AM
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Having been a loser half my life and a winner the other half, let me tell you that winning feels a hell of a lot nicer than losing 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:10 AM
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Then why did we both get more matches prior to the k-pop craze? And not to mention in countries like Sweden and Western Europe where the k-pop scene is less relevant we get a lot more matches than him. Besides, the women are literally saying to him they love k-pop and mention the bands they love etc. You can start making alternate realities to conform with your bias all you want though 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:57 AM
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Then they would have thought we were all rich. And the girls he matched with on tinder wouldnt start every conversation with ‘i love k pop’ 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:36 AM
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Definitely. In Brazil there’s a huuuuuuge k-pop scene (dont ask me why there lol), and we went on a holiday there and he had more attention there then our other friend that always gets the attention (6’2 caucasian handsome dude). We were stunned 😄 Im not caucasian (nor asian) myself and I notice the difference per country for myself as well. Many countries aren’t racist anymore, but race preferences in dating are still a huge thing. Which I fully understand, but still makes it weird to be percei…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:36 PM
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Imo people that dislike age gaps. - especially younger woman with older man - are unintentionally misogynists. ‘Oh no a woman is only 21 years old, she cant think for herself yet. A 30 year old will manipulate her!’. A woman can think just fine for herself at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:19 PM
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My asian friend didnt use to have any dates as no girl liked him whatever he did. Now that k-pop is big, he has a huge niche of girls that love to date him. Its night and day for him, even though he changed nothing about himself. Sometimes life is just unfair for people and it sucks that people put the responsibility on those people to change. Sure maybe they can change a bit, but my heart goes out to those people as it sucks to have been born 10-0 behind in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:13 PM
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100% fake, woman would not post like this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:42 PM
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I dont understand, what should I do? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:44 PM
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Just talk with a sample size of random women or man. Most Man could look at a woman for 10 seconds and decide they want to have casual sex with them. Most women want a lot more than a 10 second look at a man to decide to want casual sex with them. As a result, man are much less picky and context dependent on whether having sex or not. If an attractive woman could magically appear at a man’s doorstep ready to have sex every morning, it would work out for most man. The reverse, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:22 PM
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Having a high body count isnt attractive but like any skill, more experience typically does result in more expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:47 AM
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I can think of tens of other examples like Justin Bieber (Shawn Mendes, Jonas Brothers, Zac Efron, Harry Styles, etc) that have a lot of women fans dying for them, but I don’t know any women artist that has hoards of man groupies at concerts being in love with them etc. Random non scientific source to confirm my potential bias 😆: https://www.salon.com/2011/02/22/neko_case_male_groupies/ Counter argument would be males in pornstar instagram comment section, but that seems more lust involved than …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:36 AM
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I would make the argument that if we compare the amount and crazinesss of women groupies of Justin Bieber vs male groupies of Arianne Grande, its quite clear that women idolize and want the ‘rock star’ more than man. Open to counter arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:09 AM
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I dont think many people realize that your barometer of who you find attractive is also in a fluid state. Go to NY and only go to the most fancy places for a year, and you’ll find a lot of women/man very ugly because you’re used to that standard. Go to Asia and any blond person will look much more ‘exotic’ then when you see them in Sweden. Your environment / frame of reference matters A LOT. People can be very happy if they adjusted their standards a bit. Also fine if they dont ofc, its their li…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:19 PM
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Just a warning that most people do not find the ‘perfect’ woman very attractive. They prefer the ‘not perfect but extremely attractive’ natural look A LOT more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:36 AM
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Depends on your attractiveness level. Real life allows your charisma, social skills, and personality to be included in the weighing whether someone wants to have sex with you or not. If you suck socially, online dating works better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:58 PM
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Its not female privilege. Its just a consequence of the dating market where man want sex with strangers more than woman. Its literally the other gender enabling the ‘advantage’, so I wouldnt consider it privilege. Also because theres such an abundance of sex for women, its no longer interesting. Try having 50 pizza delivery man coming to your door every day asking you if you want pizza. Suddenly pizza becomes really fucking annoying and uninteresting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:02 AM
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1 guy is proof? Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:54 PM
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Imo most people that consider an age gap so incredibly bad overestimate how much people grow after let’s say 22. I know a shitton of people that didnt mature except slaved away at a job they didnt like for 8 years and now they are 30. Cool story bro, you turned more bitter and hate on everything. That’s really mature and you learned so much about life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:46 PM
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Morning skincare routine night skincare routine Daily Anti balding routine Bi-daily shaving bi-weekly haircut, Daily hairdrying and styling hair 6 times per week gym (10 hours a week) Every 5 days do nails My routine, am I doing - besides make up - that much less?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:02 AM
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I notice a big difference in attractiveness since I make 6figs (and was poor before) but it also has to do a lot with attitude. Now that I know I can literally make a woman get out of her own lifestyle and treat her to nice restaurants, weekend trips and all that stuff, I feel really confident. That confidence and relaxedness probably helps me more than the actual money. But you need the money to have it though, cant fake it 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:53 AM
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I’m always of the opinion that the one who invites, should be the one willing to pay. I always do the inviting and also to more upscale restaurants, so it would be weird to ask them to pay. I will do it happily and its my way of saying I appreciate her time with me. If a women really insists on splitting I’m fine with that. I pay to make her feel good. If she doesn’t like me paying then the purpose is gone so I’m fine to split then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:20 AM
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So quote the researches or posts then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:44 PM
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Hah I dont blame you, I should just keep it at 1 comment per post 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:06 PM
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Read my other comment: difference between not bringing anything to the table and being the top at your company. I was short in my comment but I think OP’s portrayal of reality is inaccurate. She makes it seem a woman is either an average looking career tiger or a hot sugarbabe. But there’s just a minority of 8-9’s look wise that don’t also have their shit together and have a job etc. If I earn 50k usd, it would be great if she would earn 50k usd as well. But i dont need her to earn 200k. Its coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:57 PM
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I love a woman that has her own opinions, is intelligent, discusses with me, makes her own income (having more money is always nice) and makes me know my place if i shout bullshit. I wouldnt date a person who doesn’t do/have the above. But having the above (i.e. just being a person that works and has interests and opinions) VS being the ‘top of your company’ makes no difference to me nor most man. Im quite confident in myself so it wouldnt even bother me if she earns more than me. But to find it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:48 PM
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Well if they can’t self report and they dont realize it, then its impossible for me to argue against you as your opinion is the objective truth whatever I say 🤣 Attractiveness isnt just there or its not. I find many girls hot. Then they do something thats unattractive and im not attracted to them (either for a short period or forever). You paint such a simplistic view of attraction. Maybe thats your reality, and you either find a man super attractive all the time or not. But there are other peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:45 PM
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This is basic knowledge though right? The last thing a man will ever say ‘I want my future wife to be at the top at her company’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:37 PM
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And you were insanely attracted to him only by his physical appearance? Not his attitude, demeanor, his status, money, his vibe, etc. If so, you’re very much an outlier based on several studies about what attracts a woman and makes a woman turned on. Also how long was this relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:15 PM
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It could have a variety of reasons: 1) men sex drive being generally higher, hence they naturally complain more 2) women need relaxedness / security / sensuality to be in the mood for sex. For men sex is much more visual and ‘hot ass, i wanna fuck’. Something very small like ‘i have to think about getting our kids to the doctor tomorrow’ or ‘why is my husband not helping out in the house’ is enough for a woman to not be in the right mental state. I was in a long relationship (7 years) and there …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:10 PM
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Source where its stated 75% of women arent physically attracted to their husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:58 PM
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In another post I gave advice about your situation. If we abstract from your situation, and we just answer the question ‘What should you do after ‘work on yourself’ has failed? You typically work on yourself for a certain goal. If you truly gave it your all, then imo you should assess 1) whether your goal is too high 2) how you come to accept your reality without having reached the goal. Ad 1) Imagine your goal is to date the actress Emilia Clarke and only her. You tried it all, you became fit, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:24 PM
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Romantically? Some women wont date you because of your height yes. Other women will. There are millions of women. Like you would fuck someone, i wouldnt want to be near her. Tastes differ widely. No guy would ever reject you as a friend because you’re short though. Very selfishly thought: they even look bigger if they stand next to you, so it would be a plus lol 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:04 PM
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To the OP, I fully agree with what the above person is saying. You accomplished a lot and you should be proud about that! If you cant make any platonic or romantic friends there is still something wrong with you. I know its not a nice word to say ‘wrong’, but that’s just the reality. Problem is that most strangers arent honest with you. Its time for you to start working on what prevents you from having genuine connections with people. This will be a long road as typically this stuff is from past…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:58 AM
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Thats just assumptions you’re making. Could be soooo many factors besides the lack of physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:49 AM
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Disagree with that. How can ugly people find happiness with other ugly people? (I.e. 50% of population if we consider everyone below the mean ugly). Apparently because they scale their expectations down unconsciously. And yes they still get turned on from their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:40 AM
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Thats not a reframe, thats a change of facts haha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:20 PM
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Living with your mom at age 23 is definitely not a red flag. Maybe he or she wants to save some money for a down payment on a house? At 23 most (future) high educated people are also still studying doing masters or phds. Other red flags you mentioned are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:49 PM
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If any person ignores me I’d be slightly annoyed tbh. I would not express this outwards as I’m an emotionally stable person and wouldnt want the other person to feel upset, but inwards I would. Basic human courtesy makes me at least acknowledge a persons existence (unless that existence is threatening to me). Same reason I say hello to beggers, at least they have a feeling they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:37 AM
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Your first thread is 20 year old with a 30-40 year old. Second thread is 48 year old with 30 year old. Thats a difference. But I agree with you there are weird double standards with age. It all depends on the people and context for me. A 30 year old man dating a 20 year old woman in a mutual respective setting where there is no manipulation or power dynamic -> perfectly fine. 20 year old means she’s an adult (in EU at least) and (once again dependent on a person) should be able to make her own d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:31 PM
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Yeah you’re right about that. In your case where the guy asks everyone out in the same social circle, that’s him being unaware of group dynamics haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:53 AM
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This is like a prisoners dilemma. For an indivudal guy the most useful strategy knowing other guys ask every girl out, is to ask every girl he sees to date him. But the end result is that its worse for every guy. There's just a difference in initial attractiveness for women and men. So men are less selective at the start causing a big imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:03 PM
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Kindness (yes) Curious (yes) Beautiful (nope 😂)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:27 PM
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Dont understand most of the comments here. Of course attraction depends per person but there are certain charakteristics that on average more people like. Most women like a taller guy than them for example. Does that mean you’re doomed if you’re short? Of course not. MOST women, means there are also woman that dont. But ask a random woman and there’s a HIGH chance that most will say they want a man taller than them. Similarly a man with a micro penis (less than 1/3 of your pinky) would be unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:29 PM
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You’re welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:17 PM
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Its a scale in terms of ‘success’ Stage 1 If you are timid and scared, you have it the worst. You will not accomplish what you want to accomplish. Stage 2 If you are arrogant and obnoxious you will get some part of what you want (career wise...getting the right table at a restaurant...maybe some particular relationship), but people will generally dislike you and find you rude and ughhh that person. Stage 3: Assertive and confident yet humble and kind This person gets what he wants, isnt afraid t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:07 AM
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The thing for me is, I believe evolutionary psychology plays a role but its very hard to determine what the influence is of culture and what the influence is of evolutionary psychology. I think evolutionary psychology is more easily displayed with an example of food. We all crave sugars because our brain uses glucose so we are evolved to like it. But....you can easily avoid sugars by some discipline and even do keto-diets that completely lack sugars and after a few weeks of uneasiness be somewha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:55 AM
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1) You paint the ‘hot woman who wants nothing but a provider-red pill Miami girl here but 95% of girls arent only that. Like, most hot girl I know can just as easily drive, do favors, typically has a job, etc. Even if we agree with the stereotypical ‘hot woman that cannot do anything’ image (i dont but lets assume for argument sale), then while this is a benefit for a woman, its not really a downside of a man. If we agree with the stereotypical archetypes then the man is a ‘warrior seeking compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:24 AM
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It really depends on the person, but people typically grow by experience. So if nobody is inviting you, you try to change your personality and become more social. If you’re hot, you could fill a week just getting invited just for being hot. So the need to improve is there less so. If you have an amazing beatiful smile, people will want to talk to you just because of that, not because of your charakter. I do agree that their being invited also means that in some ways they have it easier to become…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:31 AM
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1) who needs a drink? Im talking casual sex or relationships. Just open tinder as a really attractive man and you can literally have girls coming to your house every day of the week with pure pre-front intention of ‘this is gonna be sex’. I’ve seen it. 2) doesnt matter. You look like Jason Momoa? If you expose yourself to enough woman, tons will be attracted to you. And yes not every girl will like you. But same is said for guys preferences. There are a lot of models I find ugly. I have standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:27 AM
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2) is true but as a man you find out a lot quicker no? If she says she wants casual sex but after 3 dates shes not having it, you know she lied. While commitment... 4) charisma is up to debate whether that can be significantly improved. I think it can to a certain agree. You notice it yourself as well how you are charismatic one day but the other day when you are in your head and stressed you are off. Other factors like money definitely help as a male and can be improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:24 AM
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It takes a week to get (significantly) stimulated from porn again. The other effects like not being satisfied with your sex with your girlfriend, having unrealistic sense of what sex is supposed to be, wanting to degrade women in bed, having penis size complex....all take much much longer to heal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:10 PM
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How many long term relationships did you have? ‘Attractiveness/power gets you a foot in the door, personality lets you stay in the house’ You realize when you are busy building your life with a significant other, most of the focus is on literally just that? 99% of women isn’t asking ‘yo how powerful is my husband? Damn hes not top 5% earner, my life sucks now.’ A woman, like a man, asks her/himself: Is my life significantly more fun/happy/meaningful with this other person next to me? If yes, coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:13 AM
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The economy is also very complex and full of emotion though. While models are always simplified, supply and demand theories hold a lot of truth in economies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:37 AM
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Attractive men have it really really easy. Easier than attractive women as they 1) arent harassed by non-attractive women, though attractive women are very often approached by non-attractive men. 2) attractive men have an insane amount of attention and knowing that other men do not have this is ego satisfying. 3) Attractive men are the only ones that can get what they want instantly. If we assume most women do not want meaningless casual sex, yet men want this, attractive women still have to fil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:23 AM
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Sometimes to friends. Like ‘we add a lot of value to each others lives dont we’. 😄 But point taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:16 AM
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Its not that deep indeed. Yet many people binge watch porn daily and don’t realize what they are doing. So apparently even though its simple, people dont make the right decisions. Short term vs long term rewards etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:15 AM
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Ah you were referring to how I factually discuss this with women in real life? I dont just state my opinion like this to women in a social conversation. This depends on context, dynamic of conversation, how we even got to this topic, etc. I’m not mansplaining this topic if thats the impression I gave. Do you know what mansplaining means? It means when a man explains something a woman clearly knows. Sorry, my friday evening humor. 🤪 If you are a man...does a man vs man’plaining concept exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:37 PM
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That may be a cultural or personal difference. But me stating my opinion like this is basically just a way to get a discussion going. I could have definitely put it in a question form.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:25 PM
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I know it is, but the main thing that I wondered is why women mind this more than man (based on my anecdotal experience). I would have expected both sexes to talk about it in equal terms, but they rarely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:23 PM
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Meaningful discussion, to better understand the world. Only a fool would think he understands the opposite sex without discussing it with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:11 PM
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Makes sense, enjoy your evening 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:43 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:10 PM
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Good analogy of HR. Thats why I am my own boss 😂 I cannot not see I’m just a resource for someone else if I’m an employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:05 PM
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I used wealth as one of the dimensions. My point is that you reduced it to one dimension. Agreed, not racism, just a preference for their own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:04 PM
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Gotcha, what would you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:00 PM
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You reduce it to the wealth dimension but I was dead poor the first time I experienced the difference in attraction. I suspect they are just less racist :) Considering all the intrinsics of different cultures and what man and woman find important in dating as common knowledge....who’s the strange one :)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:56 PM
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Dont have a father so now actively looking to define what masculinity and femininity means to me. As a result I date across a wide pool of women: from traditional woman (‘I want a provider’) to the most feminist highly educated women around. Still figuring out what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:50 PM
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But men seem to be more fine with it. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:49 PM
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I agree that this is never the case. But the above poster is the one making the claim. To compare things you have to make other things equal. Even the hardcore red pilled bro’s do not JUST look at hotness of a women. So that a man doesnt always go for the hottest person (all things not equal) is also kind of an obvious statement
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:38 PM
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🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:29 PM
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The word fit?! Is this a language barrier thing, calling someone fit is very normal in my language. How do you call someone who’s muscular?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:28 PM
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The interest and examination began for me when I discovered im extremely wanted in some countries while in others im not. I wanted to find out why. It never was socially normal to be able to change your environment on a fly (before airplanes etc), so I doubt that’s ‘so obvious’ to people who ‘get’ it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:18 PM
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The concept of that attractiveness is somewhat objective (emphasis on somewhat), that money makes you more attractive etc. Things my male friends found hard to accept that woman agreed right away with was e.g. that man aren’t emotionally available.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:46 PM
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Yeah I would never bring it up during dating. I just notice it with friends. If I bring this up with women who are friends theres some form of resistance. Men friends are like ‘yeah thats so true!’
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:31 PM
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Thats a valid point. While economics are there, the concept of love, trust, emotional integrity, bonding and building a life together shouldnt be neglected
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:21 PM
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Why does it show desperation? Acknowledgement of this / thinking about this, doesn’t mean you are desperate? Could just mean you are fascinated by the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:15 PM
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Point taken 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:14 PM
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You have experience telling them :)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:08 PM
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I wouldnt bring it up during a date. But when I discuss this with women who are friends, i often get into disagreements about it existing. ‘Attractiveness is in the eyes of the beholder’ etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:08 PM
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If you look at the words I used I say ‘I think’ and ‘i’d argue’, that means that I am of a current believe. Just because I think something doesnt mean I am not open to other opinions existing and maybe being the truth. Thats an interesting study you quoted. If that’s true then a big part of the biological argumentation goes away. Then the only thing remains is the evolutionary psychologist perspective vs cultural but that’s untestable through science i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:06 PM
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Why does ignoring this completely negates the "biology" angle? I don't think submitting to a men would be biologically natural. An evolutionary psychologist may say that women who submitted to men in the past were more likely to survive and therefore the women who are alive today are more inclined to submit? However twisted that is ofc. What are your thoughts on the above research / article of Stanford about baby's brains? My cognitive dissonance does allow me to consider. I would not talk to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:43 PM
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Im not sure if Sweden is controlled by men if 46% of politicians are women. But that is up to debate. I don't agree with your notion that if there would be any biological basis for our differences, ssocial perspectives regarding masculine and feminine wouldn't change. If something is 50% biological and 50% cultural, of course changing the culture would still cause a change in what's considered feminine and masculine. Also a lot of what is considered feminine and masculine has remained the same s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:26 PM
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I agree with your line of reasoning. The thing is that you also have no ‘clear’ evidence why cultural aspects would result in those differences and biology isnt the cause of those differences. I could also make arguments that those researches do try to control for culture effect etc, like women in Sweden being just as agreeable as US women while Sweden being much more feministic / progressive. Testosterone isnt the only hormone sure, but inject 8mg of test daily and talk to me again how aggressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:50 PM
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‘That’s why men on here bemoan being single like it’s a disease I just dont understand wtf they’re talking about’ I considered this an invitation to provide understanding. It seems I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:35 PM
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I agree with you on everything you said, except the ‘the only significant difference between men and women is their difference in strength and stature’ This dismisses tons of research that states there are psychological differences between men and women. Like I said earlier, the difference in testosterone alone between men and women creates huge differences. Im agreeing with you that all the things you said are not a ‘mans job’ or ‘womans job’ and the classical ‘women shouldnt work outside’ or ‘…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:32 PM
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I think there’s a big misconception that men want sex without emotion. If we think about sex as totally emotionless, then the act of physically putting your dick into a wet thing that gives friction and radiates heat would be sufficient. Men might not be as ‘emotionally invested’ as a women, but emotions such as ‘validation’ are a huge reason why a men has sex. They want the conquest, the validation that they were able to be with this woman. That’s also why legalizing prostitution doesnt work. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:02 PM
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There are biological differences in man and woman though. Plenty of studies regarding personality differences between sexes point that out. Just inject some steroids in your body and you can see what some extra testosterone does to someones personality. Cant those differences between man and female also result in masculinity and femininity, at least partly? Superficial differences like cooking and pink and blue seem definitely cultural, but things like level of agreeableness, competitiveness, se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:52 PM
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There’s a very big difference between being voluntarily single and being involuntarily single. You are single because you want to. Even if you wouldn’t have FWB’s, you at least know that you are desirable by the other sex. The biggest issue is not that they are sexless, it’s that they feel unseen by the other sex. They are not appreciated, valued, nor seen as attractive. Sex is just the ultimate validation for them that they are wanted, seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:48 PM
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A therapist could be useful to discuss this if you havent already? Its an important topic ‘feeling not fully whole’.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:41 PM
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There are also a lot of man that like to have their alone time and would love for their women to also be busy though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:38 PM
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Dare you to do the following experiment: Watch porn every day for a week, now on day 7 I want you to describe on a scale of 1 to 7 how turned on / excited you are to watching a porn video. Now I want you to stop watching porn for 1 month. I now want you to look at a porn video and once again rate from 1 to 7 how excited you are. I personally did this experiment. And the feeling I had watching porn after 1 month....i was almost shivering from excitement. Sorry to be explicit but I didnt even know…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:33 PM
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Men always want the hottest person in the room, provided all things equal, but rarely are all things equal. Hotter people typically have less social skills / charisma besides their hotness. A friend of mine is a good example who’s incredibly hot. He literally just has to smile and nod, and both men and women feel like they have a great conversation with him 😂 But that phase wears off in a relationship / dating, so they become less attractive as time goes on. Definitely agree a lot of guys that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:27 PM
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Glad this is the first response which focuses on building a life together Men and women may bring different things to the table depending on the dynamic of the relationship. Some like the traditional relationship and some like the more modern-no-provider relationship. Besides those differences, the main benefit of a relationship is just to build a damn life together. You come home, you have someone you trust beside you that you can talk to and share your experiences with, and to top it all off y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:20 PM
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Im in the dance scene (tango and latin) and its definitely a problem there for a lot of people. We get into physical contact with a lot of different people of the opposite sex on a regular basis and something in your brain seems to somewhat change. You start looking for the ‘new partner’ to see how you dance with them, not being satisfied with people you know. Its even a running joke in the dance scene ‘what?! You got a relationship?! Stop the music this is incredible!’ As its quite rare 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:10 PM
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Im in the dance scene (tango and latin) and its definitely a problem there for a lot of people. We get into physical contact with a lot of different people of the opposite sex on a regular basis and something in your brain seems to somewhat change. You start looking for the ‘new partner’ to see how you dance with them, not being satisfied with people you know. Its even a running joke in the dance scene ‘what?! You got a relationship?! Stop the music this is incredible!’ As its quite rare 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:10 PM
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I think its a generalization that most guys here want a woman with low body count / virgin. I love a woman with experience for example. The guys that do have that attitude (some red pillers), they definitely are being very self-centered. They create the environment they loath.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:04 PM
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I like the way you wrote that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:34 PM
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This is maybe true for some women. But ask most women how they look vis-a-vis other women and they will likely not say they are 95th percentile. Imo they devalue the worth of men more than inflate their own value. I cant quote specific research but there has been research done about this topic and in most items men tend to overvalue themselves more than woman (i.e. how good they are in sex, how good they are in driving cars, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:44 AM
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That doesnt necessarily be true either imo. Women could very well get an overinflated sense of their ‘worth’ in the ‘long term dating scene’ due to men being very eager to have casual sex and not have much standards for short term dating compared to long term dating. But woman could still find themselves ugly. They just know that even if they find themselves ugly, there are still apparently 10 good looking males that would like to have sex with them. Validation from other sex (especially when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:36 AM
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Ask 10 different women who they are attracted to and you may get different answers, ask 100 different women and they tend to flock to the same X men. Sure Jason Momoa might not be a women’s type, but there are at least 182837392 women that find him hot. Now ask whether women like Shane MacGowan (had to google to find an ugly guy lol). Maybe one girl finds him hot, but ask a random girl and she would on average say no. Acknowledging that women like attractive men (and vice versa) doesnt mean peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:41 AM
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