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It's just info about male and female nature and the sexual and relationship landscape those create. You can do whatever you want with the info depending on your values and risk tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:15 PM
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Short and attractive for me pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:43 PM
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Reality is childish! Why won't reality conform to what I WANT! Doesn't it know I'm SPECIAL?! ... yeeeah, "women" are childish. Okey then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:21 PM
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You can moralize about it all you want but the reality is that men and women are different and what's socially acceptable for one may not be for the other. Sry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:43 PM
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Yeah, of course. All attention is flattering. It's like "thank fuck I'm not a disgusting swamp donkey". I'd never actually consider it a legit possibility for a hookup or whatever tho, assuming I was single and knew this person was married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:21 PM
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where else am i supposed to go to buy overpriced foot pics from 6s with neck tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:34 PM
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Thanks for that, tips. I know all of that. I'm talking about this dumb perception that there's some grand plot among women to shit on short/bald/etc men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:19 PM
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sure, idc. If I can't tell, what difference does it make to me? I'd caution men against talking with women they want to bone about it, though. Neurosis over one's appearance comes off p feminine and is probably not going to be particularly attractive. do you wish for ugly men to remain as close as possible to their natural state so that you can filter them out and not unintentionally pass on their genes? No actual woman in reality has ever consciously had this thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:49 PM
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TIL visceral disgust is a thing that exists. I never would have imagined!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:01 AM
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No job okay? Yeah, so long as he's contributing in some way that I deem satisfactory, I don't mind being the breadwinner. Obesity okay? If I find him attractive, sure. I'm sure there's some level of fatness at which I'd find being attracted to a man impossible, but I've dated fat dudes seriously in past and it wasn't a problem. GED okay? Just Highschool diploma okay? My SO dropped out in grade 9. He's currently killing it in his industry through smarts, hard work and determination. The more high…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 07:22 PM
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requirements: 1) I find him attractive 2) He doesn't have any strongly-held values that I find very difficult to live with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 06:17 PM
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Divorced. He was a "good Christian man" who wanted a virgin gf and was secretly banging my manager from work, whom he met at the work xmas party that I brought him to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:21 PM
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Agree. Relationship guy is good time guy + compatible goals and values - major red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:04 PM
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Just shutting down peer-reviewed research, without examining the evidence on a case-by-case basis may have been addressed here: I'm not saying throw out the whole system, but don't for a second believe that a "peer-reviewed study" is in any way gospel truth. Do y'all even read? Like... at all? You know what helps in differentiating reliable "scientific conclusions" from weakly-supported or biased ones? Reading!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:06 AM
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I see that you're more interested in strawmanning my point rather than refuting it. fwiw, though, I think you're right. People with intellectual delays such as yours should probably stick to blind faith rather than using your own brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 09:47 PM
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Ok, I'll bite in good faith even though "All I'm getting from it is " peer-reviewed study works unless it doesnt agree with my world view" if this isnt what you are saying explain." doesn't sound particularly good-faith to me. I have science'd firsthand. With a government organization, even -- the ones who supposedly aren't sciencing to sell shit. There is a huge push to see trends and conclusions where there aren't any. Just take out some of these "outliers", rely on peoples' misunderstanding o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 08:18 PM
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I'm not saying throw out the whole system, but don't for a second believe that a "peer-reviewed study" is in any way gospel truth. Thanks for playing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 08:05 PM
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I don't believe equality is possible or desirable. People should have equal rights and freedoms, but the outcomes of that will be necessarily unequal because of differing values and human capacity. Disadvantaging more capable people so that less capable people can achieve the same outcomes is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:01 PM
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This. "Science says this!" No. It doesn't. PEOPLE with agendas massage data sets and present conclusions based on their own biases to solicit funding for more studies. I'm not saying throw out the whole system, but don't for a second believe that a "peer-reviewed study" is in any way gospel truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:14 PM
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35, female, red. Nah, I wouldn't be bothered. If I don't want us to fuck other people anymore, I say so. If he's not on the same page, o well, next.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 06:47 PM
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Any. Idc about n-count at all if I like a man and find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 06:42 PM
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Good. I birthed them, I get to oppress them. Them's the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 05:48 AM
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My daughters will be 2 and 4 this year. I'm going to raise them in a family culture of contemplating the possible outcomes of their choices before they make them, and letting them endure any non life-threatening consequences of their actions. I'm not going to pressure them in any particular direction -- there are upsides and downsides to every choice a person makes, and one necessarily has to live with both. If I can "normalize" thinking about this shit, and the work ethic required to make the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:31 PM
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They'd "feel insecure" but what would they actually do to correct it? I mean, a fair proportion of the women in this thread are apparently willing to do bjs and butt stuff and handjobs, within reason. Why is it acceptable for women to need more than piv sex but not men? It's acceptable for anyone to require whatever the fuck they want, sexually. It's acceptable for anyone to not date or fuck anyone else if the individual's requirements are unreasonable to the other individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:48 PM
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Are you reading the thread at all, or just twisting things that people are saying so that you can climb up on your soapbox? Men can't get woman off? Mans fault he's bad at sex. I've never seen this said of men who can't get a woman off from PIV. It's pretty well-known that a large proportion of women just can't get off from PIV. Maybe if y'all quit watching so much porn where women have multiple screaming orgasms as soon as they touch the magical dick, you wouldn't be so neurotic about how actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:54 PM
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I don't really hate pornsex, but I think it sets men up for disappointment. If that woman who's constantly horny and will gag on your dick or get railed in the butthole at the drop of a hat becomes your holy grail standard for relationships, the reality of an LTR is going to seem pretty underwhelming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:57 PM
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I'm not a mind-reader, but he certainly didn't have trouble getting or staying hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:45 PM
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It'd be a strike, but not a hard no. I've done worse for people I cared about :p
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 04:02 PM
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women, CONFIRM MY BIAS!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:40 PM
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This is a real thing: death-grip syndrome! It was tedious and a big turn-off. I ended up dreading sex with this person because it took FUCKING FOREVER. 0/10 do not recommend. If it were a less severe case that didn't require like 25 minutes of intense, sustained, very specific handjob sensation, I might consider it if I liked the person enough but it'd definitely be a strike against.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:37 PM
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I lasted a year. I love my kids more than just about anything, but that was a pit of depression I never care to go back to. I need to make money and have adult contact during the day. Fortunately I live in a place where we can collect the equivalent of unemployment for a year after a baby's birth so I got to breastfeed and all that good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:50 PM
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Yeh I have an old roommate who was 5'3" and had cystic acne in his youth, so a lot of scars. He slayed whenever he was single. It's cause he perfected what he could control (good physique, nice sense of style, good grooming) and is really funny and intelligent, and has no trouble at all talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:52 PM
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My lizard brain is super-racist. Non-white dudes almost never turn my head. They don't register at all, sexually. ... however... I have ended up with hardcore crushes on a number of dudes of different races, owing to the fact that they're like, really smart, or funny. I've never had sex with any of them (mostly cause I was in other relationships at the time) but I definitely would have were I single, if they were similarly interested. I'd take charm over looks anytime. Fortunately I got both in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:57 PM
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low-stakes attention. Stop texting her. Suggest that second date. If she declines, next.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 03:56 AM
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Among close friends? Very aware. Anything more distant than that, and I'd say not at all (save the rare exceptions who want to shout it from the rooftops). Women will use that info to do character assassination in the fsm, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 02:28 PM
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Okay? If I had sons, I would hope the same for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:23 PM
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This is pure cope and fantasy. The idea that women shame their male agemates because they're concerned for the emotional wellbeing of the younger women (their competition) being pursued by these men is patently insane. Older women have years under their belt of being valued for all the wrong reasons such as this That's all the reason there is. That moralizing women think it's "wrong" is irrelevant to reality. It's sour grapes because they've now realized in hindsight that all the attention they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:27 PM
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Our Chad roommate brings these things home after meeting them on Instagram. The excessive makeup and lip fillers, obvious nosejobs and fake boobs are endemic. I hope my girls don't feel like they need to do this to themselves to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:39 PM
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Cause the reality of this sucks for them and they're mad about it. It's rubbing their noses in the fact that youth and fertility is where it's at for men. Got maturity? Experience? Character? Accomplishments? Cool, go die alone cause boners dgaf about any of that if he has the option for young and tight. Just ignore it. Nothing to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:56 AM
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The stupid fast rubbing of the clit is the worst, whether he does it or she does it. I like how the other responses to this are dudes going "NO, SOME WOMEN LOVE THIS!!!" lul
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:41 PM
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There ya go. Sounds like you're on the right track!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:58 PM
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Outcome independence is a handy thing to embrace :p
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:53 PM
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If he embarrassed me in the process by fucking someone we knew or had to have social contact with going forward... that'd be really hard to forgive. Or if he also got emotionally attached to the other woman. Or if he got her pregnant. Otherwise, sure. If he had a one-off with a rando, I don't think I'd care that much tbh. Either way I have no intention of splitting up with him, ever. I'd for sure end up alpha widowed, and he's the father of our kids and I don't want a broken home for them. I'd e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:50 PM
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I'm super retarded at flirting and have never thought of myself as particularly physically attractive, so I play to my strengths/competencies. I bake/cook for people... I'm also pretty good at noticing shit that people need and producing it for them... whether that be a physical thing (my SO never has to buy his own toiletries or clothing) or a solution to a problem. It's all generally been pretty ineffective. Dudes mostly don't seem to appreciate this in general, but I guess it's helped me land…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:45 PM
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But the porn ladies love it when they get railed for 45 minutes in 25 different positions by a dude with a horsedick!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:05 PM
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"We want reality to work our way, but it doesn't! WHAT GIVES?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:56 PM
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Dickful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:44 AM
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I didn't find the outrage too over the top in either case. It really is a no-win for men though, because it's like... we all know Johnny Depp could have whooped Amber's ass if he'd wanted to and I think that's why there's the lack of sympathy (because he "let" it happen)... but if he HAD applied the smackdown, he'd probably go to jail. Total bullshit. I hope they make an example of this smug, miserable cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:20 PM
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He started playing hockey again recently so I went and collected all the things he needed to round out his gear. For me, he took some time off work to come help me drop off and pick up the kidlets today, which is PERFECT. Turned a sort of low-key stressful situation into really enjoyable hang-out time to start and end my day <3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:08 PM
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If we're having like... PPD-Oscars, I'd like to nominate this for most delusional post of 2020
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 08:27 PM
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Women are petty sometimes? No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:00 PM
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I don't care. But the men are "cheating" at the game. Catch anyone cheating at any game and people are going to be mad about it. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:01 PM
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I don't think it's that simple. Those men are spitting in women's faces, figuratively. Like "I can't win by playing by your rules, so fuck your rules"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:28 PM
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Spoken like someone who doesn't have a penis. Looks like there ARE girls on the internet, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:40 PM
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What part of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:30 PM
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They're pricing themselves out of the market. Maybe it's fear of rejection or failure, not totally sure. Most of the dudes doing this are pretty neurotic and strongly risk-averse so I imagine that is probably a strong motivator. If you're 5'9" and girls only fuck men over 6 feet, you're justified in not trying -- not risking anything. That your premise is demonstrably false doesn't really matter. They also like hot women (because what man doesn't), but those are the women with lots of options, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:24 PM
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That's how my SO and I are. We're both fairly money-driven. I can't speak for him but idc about relative proportions of income. So long as we're both hauling ass, I'm happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:16 PM
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Hormones/biology primarily. The reliable expression of this biological difference, I believe has lead to its social "normalization", but the core of it is biological differences imo. I find the accounts where people transition to the opposite sex/take hormone therapy really interesting, to this end. I can't remember where it was, but I remember a trans-man discussing how on testosterone, he found himself no longer able to cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:30 PM
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I wouldn't care. A man's sexual past is pretty irrelevant to me so long as he doesn't come with anything incurable or any kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:19 PM
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Fe objection to dudes trying to circumvent the social game, and the women who enable it. On a visceral level it's like "I don't know the rules of the game/have contempt for the rules of the game". Since social norms are what keep women safe, that's probably a subconscious red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:07 PM
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They like the romanticized version of them. When he goes from bad boy to doting affectionate boyfriend, that's like girl crack. When he fucks your sister because he's a cad with no impulse control, that's less enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:35 PM
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We're kind of in an in-between-type position right now. I think with more women in the workforce, that social energy that previously went into mums' social groups and networking is now being spent on coworkers... but we're still subject to those professional/personal life boundaries, so while women are still social networkers, the benefits (and challenges) don't extend into their families. The fact that people are waiting til their 30s to have kids now also limits the potential for multigenerati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 02:55 PM
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These discussions are weird. There is no like... universal definition of what "attractive" means so we're all talking past each other anyway. Whether everyone can be measured on some universal scale of attractiveness, or whether attractiveness is defined by how many people want to fuck you... the results are always the same -- men are more sex-motivated than women so women get more sexual attention from men than vice versa.... unless they're gay men, in which case Grindr happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 02:35 PM
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Yeah, I guess probably closer to 3 then. Above that "must not be an instant 'ew disgusting'" looks baseline, I've been swayed to both yes and no by personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:34 PM
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idk whether to answer 3 or 7. My baseline is "you can't be a nope at first sight, all else is negotiable". There aren't a ton of people who are hard nopes to me, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:12 PM
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Because looks are not the sum total of what makes a man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:05 PM
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Hot and enough other good qualities not to be a total liability. Mostly just hot though. I'm not saying I have these qualities, but that's what men care about. ETA: also young. Hot and young... which really is part of hot, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:02 PM
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You're a charmer, aren't you!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:03 AM
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Agreed. Beyond the increase in T that lifting heavy tends to yield... Men like muscles. If a man is muscular, he feels like he looks sexy. That has an impact on his psychology and his behavior. I think that's what appeals to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 08:58 PM
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1/10, elbows too pointy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 08:51 PM
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I never got a lot of attention for being cute even when I was young. Invisibility's been kind of my default state. It's comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 08:48 PM
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Yep, me too. Spent a lot of years planning and working my ass off toward a thing. Didn't work out for a bunch of reasons -- some within my control, some not. But I was really bitter and angry about it for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:40 PM
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They're mourning. Plan A didn't include "no companion, no romance, no sex", imo... it's just that they don't see a viable to way to achieve that in the current climate. I think most people have that experience at least once... something doesn't turn out the way you hoped it would and you're disappointed and mad and grieving the end of certain possibilities. I imagine/hope most MGTOW find a way eventually to get over that sting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:14 PM
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It may be because I have no Fe, but I have never understood why anybody cared about "shaming". Like, who gives a fuck what people you don't care about think of your life choices or attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:10 PM
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Wear eye protection. I hear projectile panties can be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:08 PM
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Agree. The "i'm waiting for my child support so i can get my nails and hair done" meme is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:57 PM
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All the women will hook up with the chadliest man and the other men will be mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:54 PM
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No. I was a dumb pretentious idiot who thought she wanted someone "educated". I got that sensitive artsy intellectual in my early 20s. What a disaster. Fortunately, my next pick was better :p
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:05 PM
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You hijack discussions about unrelated shit to air your grievances with "women" but I'm triggered. Ok then. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:42 PM
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Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:25 PM
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</thread>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:25 PM
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If I could somehow know whether a man would be a detached or distant father-figure I wouldn't have kids with him... if it were just he and I, it wouldn't matter much. An absent or unavailable father kinda hamstrings your kids. Wouldn't want to do that to them. Fortunately my SO is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:55 PM
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plot twist: they're all trannies living out weird femdom humiliation fetishes on the internets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:12 AM
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I can't change reality, & we're allowed to have their perspectives. You could stop inserting them where they're irrelevant to the topic being discussed. Or maybe not. That might require some self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:39 AM
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I'm bored of this dumb "convince me to debase myself with a disgusting wahmen" permutation that's been posted here approx a billion times. I'd like it to go away now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:34 AM
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Both, in different proportions which are moderated by some combination of natural character and life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:32 AM
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Suckerrrr, here you are handing over your shekels when the REAL POWER lies in doing all the meal planning, grocery shopping, and food prep YOURSELF so you can stick it to that BITCH.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:30 AM
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You mean SOME OTHERS in THIS VERY SUB co-opt unrelated points as launching points for rants about how trash women are? How unexpected! You must be onto something! Namely that this sub got so full of salty men that they had to ban incel content.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:28 AM
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You took a benign observation about spending patterns and turned it into a weird rant about how women aren't worth investing in. One has nothing to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:24 AM
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Women require investment, they are investments just with little return Investments with returns that you personally don't value. That's fine. You do you. you aren't really making a good case to men why they should be. I wasn't trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:19 AM
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Who wants a dude who's so thirsty he'll wait 6 months for sex? Eugh, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:15 AM
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Women want to be with a man with social proof/status as a way to elevate their own social status. Men who work at a gas station and play a lot of video games generally do not have status, per normie standards. That being said, there are niches that don't require ambitious ladder-climbing that you can be high-status in, and appeal to those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:14 AM
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Don't then. Nobody cares. How do you turn "women make most of the purchases for a household" into "CONVINCE ME TO ACQUIRE MY OWN WOMAN"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:09 AM
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Because traditionally men aren't impressed by a woman's resources -- gifts are a thing that goes "hey bitch I have resources, get on this dick". Women spend their money on hair and nails and makeup and spray tans and gym memberships to enhance their primary value to men, which is looking good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:07 AM
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I mean, it's not totally wrong. Most people are less retarded at 30-something than they are at 18. That guy wasn't, though. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 08:43 PM
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Couple funny ones... when I was 18 I bought into the dumb idea that older men were more adult and mature and sophisticated so I went out with this guy who was in his 30s and working as some kind of lawyer. He proceeded to talk about himself for the entirety of the "date", brought attention to the fact that he didn't tip the server with a, "I don't need to pay some bitch to bring me my beer" and then asked whose place we were going to when we went to leave. I politely declined. I was always borde…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:47 PM
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Read the article, was like "lol this is ridiculous", and decided to investigate further: Cursory Googling indicates that Paul Dolan might be an idiot and all his nebulous bullshit based on his misinterpretations of a survey might be... well, bullshit: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness Important take-away: In the meantime, don’t trust shocking claims with a single source, even if they’re from a well-regarded expert. It’s all too…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:36 PM
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In what age bracket?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:39 PM
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Give it a few years. We'll see how "survivable" single childless women over 40 are finding the consequences of the choices they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:18 PM
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Hypergamy is worse because women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:15 PM
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Women aren't attracted to men in the way men are attracted to women. Because they're women, and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:13 PM
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I find it varies pretty widely by personality-type. Most of my nerdy friends selected for similar interests, often at the expense of looks-- they're mostly married to like... 3-4s with whom they can share common interests and goals. Those relationships have all been intact for 5+ years at this point. My normie-er friends (non-chads, but they still get women without too much difficulty) seem to vet only for looks and "is she into me" and those relationships go down in flames pretty predictably. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:06 PM
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Nah I just accurately read your intention and decided not to waste my time digging through the shithole that is mgtow for examples you'd reject or argue with anyway, because you asked in bad faith looking for this retarded gotcha. Congratulations, you win the esteemed title of "Transparent As Fuck". Your certificate's in the mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:45 PM
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Physical attraction was important to both short and long relationships, although I kind of score it on a binary scale -- 0 being "I would not get naked with you under any circumstances" and 1 being, "I am open to getting naked with you if I find your personality enjoyable". "Fun" and "attractive" were my only two criteria for casual sex. For LTRs, I never really cared about "financial stability", personally. I've always worked and made money. What I DO care about is that he matches or exceeds my…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:59 PM
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Do you believe that there is someone out there for everyone For all but the really extreme fringes of humanity, yes I believe this is true. I think the problem is that people read "there is someone out there who checks all your boxes and is perfect for you, and you check all their boxes and are perfect for them" into it, which isn't true. Relationships in reality require some compromise. Holding out for magical fairytale romance is probably not going to land you a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:51 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree with you. The average man ballsy enough to label himself "MGTOW" publicly these days is going to face a lot more social ostracism than like... a woman being oppressed by the supposed patriarchy. I'm just saying that's what the perception is. My explanation of other peoples' convictions has nothing to do with MY convictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:47 PM
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I agree. I'm not saying it -should- be censored. I don't believe in censorship of "hate speech". I'm just explaining why it has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:46 PM
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-I- don't care, personally. I am for free speech, including "hate speech". I'm just saying that don't be surprised that "women are manipulative garbage with no integrity" is getting censored in the current political climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:45 PM
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Oh that was unforeseen. Guess you got me! Too smart for us women-types.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:44 PM
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Of MGTOW shitting on women? Nah, you can go look, yourself. lol. If you're even asking, I strongly doubt it's in good faith and that you would be receptive to any evidence. Ain't nobody got time for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 08:39 PM
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Especially considering MGTOW doesn't even really advocate anything actionable. It's like any religion. The "intentions" are fine (men improve the degree of control over their own lives for a greater sense of fulfillment), but let's not pretend there's not a significant proportion of the MGTOW population who aren't spewing vitriol against women. "They" are already tacitly "accusing" MGTOW spaces of inciting violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:56 PM
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I'm an INTJ. I am pretty thoroughly un-fun. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:52 PM
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100%. Boners are dangerous things. Bill Burr hit the nail on the head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0gaYyNk7QA#t=10m10s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:09 PM
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Are they not? Not to young women. Older women who have spent some time as actual adults having to file their own taxes and run their own adult lives for a number of years probably better appreciate the value of those qualities. I bet a lot of the "good men" as you've described them end up with older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:02 PM
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It's because the current narrative is that misogyny is a thing and women are an oppressed minority. They regard MGTOW as punching down, but not FDS. I don't think it's any mystery that Reddit and most of the western world subscribes to SJW-lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 03:53 PM
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Probably tied to the values of your family of origin and personality (I bet a lot of these men fit particular MBTI types) more than a men vs women thing. Tangentially, I also think this is why cross-cultural dating is so fraught and minority men are having such a rough time. Most young people in North America grow up expecting an extended childhood, because EVERY STUPID JOB requires some kind of post-secondary education where they'll be sort of adults but not really, and have a lot of time/dispo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 03:39 PM
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When men say "what do women find attractive?" they mean "what do women find fuckable?" and women answer the question as if the man had asked "what do women find marriageable?" hence the disconnect. Men of the online manosphere mostly seem to think this is delusion or straight up deception on the part of women, but I think that's giving women too much credit for evil genius -- it's just a miscommunication resulting from different values between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:18 PM
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I like to think I am. lol. Men do too much caring about the feelings of women that aren't theirs, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:41 PM
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Here's the flowchart: Q1: do I find her hot? If yes, proceed to question 2. If no, selection criteria not required. Q2: is the penis potentially being selected my penis? If yes, selection critera acceptable. If no, unacceptable. Simple, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:41 PM
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No, I have concerns about the coronavirus. All contact with Other People has been discontinued.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:34 PM
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Why? It means playing the field. Sewing your wild oats. Isn't it normal to do this, when you aren't interested in marriage to anyone at the time being? That it's the most reasonable choice for YOU doesn't mean that it's beneficial to women and that they should applaud the practice. lol. It's serving your imperative at the expense of theirs -- that's why they don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:13 PM
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None of them were pieces of shit. I only have a few that I'd consider "serious" exes (like "official" for more than a few months). They were decent (though not wholesome) people whose particular fucked-uppedness just didn't jive with my particular fucked-uppedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:40 AM
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I ask because I have dude friends who have experienced similar shit... ... but are you possibly captain save-a-ho? I have a couple of buddies who seem to subconsciously pick women who are damaged because they're pretty and he wants to rescue them from their circumstances. It never works. That might be something to examine about yourself. If you're getting attention at all, you're probably doing better than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 05:04 PM
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This is a dumb question. Has anyone ever started feeling guilt because someone else said they should? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:39 PM
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Tell her or she'll hear it from someone else and that will be worse. I hope you're trolling tho. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:38 PM
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I'm glad feminist men are here to mansplain the internal workings of female attraction to me. Thank you, o wise penis-haver.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:33 PM
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Not desire other women? No, I don't think that's possible. That's the way men are wired... but they're certainly capable of avoiding fucking other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 11:33 PM
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When she told me this, I think she honestly believed it, and it was probably true-- until it wasn't. Agree, here. I don't think women in general just SEE a man and become attracted. She probably didn't experience that sort of spontaneous attraction... until some guy started flirting with her and making her feel special and sexy. Sorry dude =/ I've found the trick is to stonewall/avoid anyone with whom one has "chemistry". People are great at resisting temptation....! Until they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 11:31 PM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 11:28 PM
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Not at all, assuming he doesn't have anything incurable or any kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:06 PM
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1) No sense of humor 2) Non-white (sry, my lizard brain likes what it likes) 3) Smelled bad 4) Incompatible worldviews on stuff like children, religion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:00 PM
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I'd be like... 6'6" in 8" heels. lul. Nah it's trying to rationalize lizard brain preferences. What she means is "tall men are sexy, but it's shallow to say it that way so I'll legitimize it by making it about my footwear". Same as dudes who want an "athletic" woman because "I live an active lifestyle". They don't actually give a fuck about her athleticism (inb4 someone comes to argue this point with me). They want her to LOOK not-fat. They don't actually care if she can run a 10k so long as she…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:21 AM
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They play shooters. And maybe Fortnite. :p But yeah, idk. Why shouldn't it be? Gaming's fuckin awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:27 PM
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Sure, I've seen the statistics. It's just a weird oversimplification. People moderate their behavior based on circumstance all the time. I also habitually swear like a sailor... except if I'm at work, in which case I totally miraculously manage not to swear at all. If you're lacking other information about a person's character and values, it's as reasonable a metric to use as any, I guess... but also comes with its own downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 01:56 AM
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I've never dated a man seriously who wasn't a gamer. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:52 PM
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The argument has been made that it's weird to take a person's single-person behavior to be representative of how they would behave in a committed relationship. When I hadn't given any promise of fidelity to anyone, I fucked whoever I felt like fucking. Once I promised monogamy to someone I saw as being a good candidate for an LTR, I stopped fucking other people. ... but hey. Date and marry whomever you want for whatever reason you want. Yay freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:46 PM
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Oh, well. Very compelling. QED. I'll just hang it up then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:58 PM
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Yes. That is why 20% of the men are having 80% of the sex. A society full of impulsive crazies wouldn't work very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:58 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Based on my observations, relationships where the woman thinks she's out of the man's league end up being cancerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:38 PM
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I know he CAN pull hotter women because he HAS. He's always given lots of compliments about my looks and has never compared me to his ex in a critical way so it's not something that he's DOING, but I know in the back of my mind that he has other attractive options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:31 PM
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I guess? I don't feel it actively but it definitely serves as passive dread in my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:28 PM
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Good-looking men with low disgust and low neuroticism fuck anything that walks. It has less to do with looks and more to do with temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:27 PM
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Physically I like tall and lanky with a good jawline who is clean but doesn't look like he spends a lot of time preening himself (body hair is a nice thing -- no need to shave/wax that pls) Mentally, someone with a twisted sense of humor. Funny is like... the hottest thing a man can be, for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:11 PM
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Same thing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:08 PM
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Right? He's not retarded with money now, so presumably, he went from... retarded with money to not retarded with money. Yay personal growth? I'm pretty fucking neurotic but I don't think this would send me into a spiral of "OMG EVERYTHING I KNEW IS A LIE" insanity. Assuming I already liked him, I don't think this revelation would erase all of the reasons I like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure they've always been there. There may be more of them now by women who're just enjoying being subversive cause the media cares about that shit more now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:09 PM
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If I were to use these women for sex, knowing I'll never commit to them, would you consider it immoral? I'd generally consider deliberately misleading someone immoral, but if you're just in it to get some poon, who cares if some hole's going to be mad at you after? Unless it causes you a crisis of conscience, it doesn't matter. If it makes you feel like a shitbag, probably best not to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:03 PM
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Ok, so the question was asked "why do women care" and it's because they're taking "women's preferences" to mean "your particular preferences, as a woman" and they resent the perceived attempt to hold them personally responsible for the misery of men they've never met or had anything to do with. We could debate whether it makes sense or not (I suspect you and I would be on the same side of that debate anyway) but that ultimately doesn't matter -- that's why "women in the aggregate" are responding…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:41 PM
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Why would an individual woman be inclined to "own the outcome" of internet randos not getting laid? How is that fair? That's like asking men, generally, to "own the outcome" of #metoo. (which I know is also being done but I think is equally moronic, personally)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:35 PM
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Maybe here, but the incel content was so bad that it had to be banned, so maybe people are still reading wahmen-directed-rage between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:32 PM
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I've never experienced this. lol. Anyone else? I've had dude friends my whole life who've expressed their frustrations and I have not once ever been like "YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO RAPE ME ARE YOU?" I'm not really normie tho so maybe this is happening in other social circles? Anyone? Side note tho, why would you complain to women about not getting laid? "HEY I'M UNDESIRABLE! SUP?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:23 PM
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Are normal dudes who are like "I'm in a dry spell now man, and that sucks" getting raged out at by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:02 PM
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Because they're mad/aggressive at women about it. It's women's fault they don't get what they want, cause they're shallow Chad-loving whores. If it were just "I'm sad and lonely and that sucks" I imagine women would respond with less vitriol... but it's not. It's "I'm sad and lonely and it's because you're a stupid slut with broken values".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:59 PM
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idk what that means to agree or disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:29 PM
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Too much "alpha". Too much aggression, too much risk-taking. A lot of it makes a man sexy and exciting but I'd probably die of anxiety if I grew to love a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:59 PM
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I will be genuinely surprised if there are any of these women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 09:07 PM
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The obsession with muscles I think is mostly a dude thing. Dudes are obsessed with muscles. There's a meme around to that effect... dude goes to the gym and gets swole and gets no additional attention from women but all the other gym dudes are all, "NICE GAINS BRO" So that being said, I think the magic lies in a man FEELING more desirable so he's more likely to exhibit that playful swagger that REALLY appeals to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:20 PM
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At a previous job an old, fat drunk owner gave me a business-branded shirt to wear that was clearly going to be way too small. I told him as much and he was like "BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING, YOU SHOULD PUT IT ON". I did not put it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:12 PM
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Be hotter than he thinks he's entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:57 PM
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I can think of some people that I'd like to see shit thrown at. Maybe OP has a point... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:05 PM
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Apples to oranges. Particularly in modern society where being a self-sufficient adult in many cases requires a post-secondary education, humans are more and more evolving to support sort of an extended childhood, into a person's early 20s, even. We also have nuclear families which are not a common thing in animal species or ancient tribes. So yeah, let's just erase all of our social evolution since the stone age so that you can stick it to those old wahmen. We'll go back to being grassland hunte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:00 PM
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I like him -- he's a wise old dude. I'm not into like... traditionalism for its own sake, but I think we've deviated from a lot of the tested-and-true paths to fulfillment for most humans (that being stuff like having families and taking responsibility for stuff). He's a nice contrast to the "be as selfish and hedonistic as possible!" voices out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:15 PM
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They were firmly no dating until 16. They explained this later by the rationale that you don't want to waste your time and energy on people who aren't serious and end up jaded and cynical by the time in life when you'd be really looking for a permanent partner. I think that makes a lot of sense. Other than that, they kind of didn't give me any explicit guidance in the realm of dating but they're both pretty exemplary humans and they had a fantastic loving marriage for almost 40 years until my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:06 AM
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I DIDN'T SIT ON HIS DICK! I WAS DRUGGED! Plausible deniability. Plot twist: these women are evil geniuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 06:31 PM
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tl;dr ur an incel because ur just a dumbdumb psychopathic creepy baby punting mysoggyknee hitler rapist that those like you perpetuate is both incorrect and dehumanizing. Thank you for projecting your own weird neuroses onto what I said. Very entertaining. It doesn't matter whose FAULT it is. This is a dumb and unproductive line of thinking. That ugly men are totally incapable of finding female companionship is demonstrably false. Moreover, even if the issue were muddied and there was no observa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 06:29 PM
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Easier to just be like "I'm 5'6" and women are universally shallow Chad-loving whores". At the end of the day, you're still ugly. Cause you uggo you're still excluded from the dating market. Cope away, sir. Maybe one day "my life sucks and it's anyone's fault but mine" will rise to popularity in the sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 03:39 PM
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If you're hot, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 03:36 PM
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Thanks for highlighting my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:46 PM
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How do you know Because I've fucked men. I'm not going to TMI the thread, but they didn't exactly keep their motivations on the DL in any sort of competent way. You girls are doing more harm than good with these comments. Disagree. If a young woman expects that the only way a sexual encounter is going to be enjoyable is if a random man who probably has no emotional investment in her is going to "give" her pleasure, she's going to have a bad time. You've got guys saying, "See see- you trying is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:56 AM
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Step 1 to ending your social fuck-up status: Agency is a thing. Try exercising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:48 AM
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Yeah... I guess I get it because "don't be a social fuck-up" is like... not an easy thing to tackle, particularly if you're an adult and have molded yourself into a social fuck-up over 20+ years. There's no great "rules" for not being weird. It's all so subjective. Easier to just be like "I'm 5'6" and women are universally shallow Chad-loving whores".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:57 PM
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Well that and my lizard brain doesn't seem to give a fuck, fortunately. If a guy's hot he's hot. idc if he's 5'5" or 6'5".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:52 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't stand for it if I were a dude. I wouldn't be with a woman who did a lot of girls' nights. I've been to clubs. I know what happens there. lol. Indiscriminate thirsting for male attention isn't something I'd want to have to contend with in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:48 PM
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Red pill tenet #1: Men and women are different. Why would you judge different things by the same metrics?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:46 PM
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Why are women who are sexually aroused by degradation not emotionally or socially well-adjusted? What gives?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:29 PM
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I never cared about this. I've dated (and had CASUAL SEX with) men shorter than myself. I'm pushing 6' in shoes, though. Requiring a man large enough to make me feel dainty and protected would have wiped out a pretty huge proportion of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:22 PM
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Yeah this was my experience dating. Dudes cared but only so they could go tell their friends that they "MADE THIS CHICK COME LIKE 12 TIMES LAST NIGHT". It's so they feel all skilled at sex, not out of some genuine desire to give a woman pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:20 PM
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Men - status (and all the things that contribute to that -- looks, social connections, resources, charm, etc etc) Women - looks and youth and to a lesser degree, social aptitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:04 PM
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Do women "really" hit the wall at 30? No. "The wall" is just when women dip below the attractiveness threshold where people are just nice and accommodating with them by default -- they become invisible (like most men). Some women are born at the wall. Some women don't hit it until later in life. idk where this notion that "the wall" means that you're hot and bangable at 29 but the instant you hit 30 you become a saggy hag destined to die alone came from, but it should go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:56 PM
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He's a neurotic mess with no apparent sense of humor. Several of my (married) friends are bald/ing, and I can promise you they don't look like Jason Statham. But they're also like.... funny, and interesting, and capable. Learning to talk to people will take OP way farther than Rogaine and hair plugs will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:03 PM
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These are not the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:59 PM
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I don't know if this thread is about you specifically, but if it is, baldness isn't your issue, I can almost guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:06 PM
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Probably but what better term is there for an ostensibly scrotum-having man tattooing "vegan for life" on his neck?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:35 PM
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I mean, physically I don't find him unappealing. He seems like kind of a fag tho, personality-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:33 PM
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35! We're getting married this summer. I didn't really care about "marriage" generally, but am looking forward to being the Real Legal Official Wife of my particular partner. ETA: I'm pretty sure we first met around like... 2011-ish? We gamed with each other off and on for a year or so, but he didn't actually know I was female. Once he did find out and started flirting, we found we had great chemistry. We visited each other at my place and his place in early 2013 and then he moved here in July t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:56 PM
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It's never been a problem for me but the weird complexes that men get about losing their hair is a huge turn-off. Balding is whatever. Being neurotic about it is uncomfortable to everyone around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:53 PM
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What we need to do is encourage women to be nicer to men and not take advantage of them. I mean, go ahead, but individual men will have better results moderating their own selection criteria to avoid loony cunts, because you can't force behavioral change on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:52 PM
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Market forces, mang. If you can get women you actually want without expending effort, you're golden. But there's a certain proportion of the population who are not into any of the women who are "naturally" into them... or they want women who have a lot of suitors so they have to set themselves apart. idk, if you can pump and dump and you're cool with having those relationships, power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 08:23 PM
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ok, but that doesn't have anything to do with what i said. secondary sex characteristics = sexually mature to our lizard brains. Lizard brains aren't going "well statistically babies born to 13 year old mothers have a higher chance of birth defects".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 07:34 PM
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Age of consent means nothing to biological cues. A sexually mature (read: with secondary sex characteristics) body is appealing. It doesn't matter what numerical age puberty is happening at. All of this "age of consent" stuff is rules imposed to try to cut back on exploitation related to differing levels of maturity and power, and has nothing to do with what our lizard brains find sexually appealing. As for why media is "sexualizing" teens with hips and breasts (which is a thing that happens una…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:44 PM
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The next evolution of MGTOW: let women die alone in obscurity and gorge on dirty dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:12 AM
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i'd have to live in water wings lest i get swept away by all the vaginal secretions. get on my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:07 AM
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M = 104 F = 94 ("Masculine" but not extremely so based on the test fields), Birth sex and gender = F, Pill = red This comes as no surprise. I've always felt anxious and disingenuous when I try to participate in the female social matrix. I think it's probably a blessing that I'm not particularly attractive, so that I could have actual friendships with dudes that weren't rife with sexual tension. I bet these results would correlate strongly with MBTI types.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 05:35 PM
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I was one of those retards who thought she could fix him. I'd save him from his bad life situation and watch him blossom and he'd love me forever. So I guess kind of both? He didn't change, I just came to terms with how reality works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 03:54 AM
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Exactly. Just excuse yourself and go do whatever else. "if u don't touch my peepee I'll talk to OTHER GIRLS" is fuckin weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:54 PM
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"she says no and I say "Ok, if you are not that interested, I will just go with that one girl"..." WHY DO YOU ALL ASSUME IM AN AUTIST GUYS?! This is a totally normal and non-disgusting way to respond to hard-to-get flirty banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:54 PM
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I suspect it's more complicated than "housework is a turn off for women!!!!" My guess is that there's some other factor or combination of factors that is actually causing the decline in sex, and amount of housework is just a proxy for that/those factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:17 PM
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I'd agree with this. I had mostly male friends through junior high/high school/undergrad (the same group of guys). We were definitely "the nerds" so they're all various shades of fat/short/balding/weird-looking. Not a chad among them. They're all partnered in LTRs now... with fat/weird-looking women. They seem to genuinely like the women they're with, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:11 PM
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eeeeh, life's been super stupid-busy/stressful lately and i have been isolating in response, haha. I hope you and mr. Ridgway and the things had a good Christmas!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:20 AM
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SHE WAS A 5
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:18 AM
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Major mental health issues including depression/anxiety and addiction problems. I can't deal with these things in a partner. They stress me out and make me miserable. I learned this from experience. I'd give just about anything else a try, for a person that I found otherwise really appealing. ETA: pedophilia and other forms of child abuse would also be a no-go. tbf if my partner died or left i probably wouldn't date at all until my kids were grown.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:36 AM
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On Starcraft 2. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:55 AM
1

Not this sub generally, but compelling arguments made by specific people have changed my mind about a lot of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:25 AM
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Yep. I like it. It works well for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:24 AM
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Don't. Nobody cares. This has been asked and answered a billion times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 12:49 PM
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It doesn't bother me. Better if it's done in a funny/playful way though. ... I'm also borderline socially retarded. I like someone who's serious about getting to the point. The dancing-around social game is not something I'm good at or have a lot of patience for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:02 PM
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I neither like or dislike them. I don't think it'd sway me one way or another. My SO has gone from sort of super-lean ottermode to like... still pretty lean, but no six-pack. It hasn't made a difference to my attraction to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:59 PM
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not a dude, but like... any community centered around something you're interested in. the point is to replace your obsession with women and sex with other fulfilling shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:35 PM
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That by itself wouldn't be a disqualifier if he were otherwise someone I found agreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:12 PM
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I'm a straight 35 year old female. I mean, I'm just... not into vaginas, sexually. I don't know that a personality-level attraction to a person would be able to overcome that. That and the whole gender non-conforming political rigamarole, while an interesting topic to consider academically, doesn't appeal to me in an "I want this to be an integral part of my everyday life" sort of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:47 AM
1

Do you have relationships in reality with actual humans? Because you don't seem to know how they work... you know, in practice. Own your decisions rather than complaining about them. None of this is reflective of my decisions or my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:41 AM
1

If they were otherwise an enjoyable human, sure. I'm a straight female.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:28 PM
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Yet, this entire time, she can't simply communicate that having equal responsibilities around the house is a top priority for her? This isn't how this works. lol. It's something that builds over time. You're not going to move in with a person and within a week be like "OMG YOU DONT DO ENOUGH HOUSEWORK THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK BECAUSE HOUSEWORK IS MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY!" It's a positive feedback cycle over time where as the woman feels her housework contributions are invisible and not valued, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 02:53 PM
3

Ok, so assuming that you agree that men generally are having a rough time in the dating market, do you think jerking off 5 times a day to internet porn is a net positive for them or for anyone? I personally don't have an issue with porn, but I don't think it's doing young men any real favors, particularly the ones who are already kind of suffering on the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 02:38 AM
0

Neurosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:39 PM
2

SCIENCE: hot people get away with more shit than ugly people. In other news: water wet, fire hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:13 PM
1

fwiw, my 5'3" ex-roommate would easily bring home a different girl every week. He was also fit and charming and interesting, mind. What is universally unattractive is a dude who's all guarded and pissy about perceived slights over whatever his insecurity happens to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:55 PM
2

i reckon most guys who do the complaining actually want to be "mommied". Yeah, and they also want lusty porn sex. The overwhelming majority of women can't do both for the same person. They can't mommy him and also crave his weiner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:55 PM
3

Solipsism. Women don't love men the same way that men love women, so women love wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:53 PM
6

Better than less hot or equally-hot illogical women, worse than hotter illogical women. It's icing on the cake, not a quality that men value above hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 10:02 PM
2

All of my SO's young employees (early 20s) met their girlfriends irl at parties or through friends or by just approaching on the street. They're all extros tho with good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 03:30 PM
4

Cause a woman's primary value is as an ornament. People will like you extra if you're hot AND talented, but talented and ugly you might as well not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:59 PM
6

For a guy who wanted to be a "free spirit"? Nah. I don't think I'd put myself through that for his hedonistic impulses. If he could make a case as to how it would enhance our lives, though... I think I could deal with it if all the other women were subservient to me. lol. I'd have to be alpha bitch or there would be trouble. I've watched the docs about the religious crazies, and parts of that life definitely seem nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:14 PM
1

I mean, my hottest female friend married a guy who looks like he walked out of some upscale department store catalogue, so it's probably not a losing strategy. I'm just speaking for me personally :p
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 10:18 PM
5

So they're horny, but not so much that they can't afford to be picky. ... yeah, that's less horny than men. lol. Lots of men will fuck a woman they wouldn't be seen in public with. It's a way more powerful motivator for men than it ever will be for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 10:17 PM
1

tfw you make a post that's supposed to be an ezpz gotcha but all the people weighing in are better at this game than you are. Sry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:23 PM
1

Male fashion almost all reads super-faggy to my lizard brain. I see a well-dressed man and assume he's a homo. Those pointy shoes are especially gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:17 PM
2

Nah. It's not the n-count that makes people happy perse -- it's that it's a sign of validation. It says "other humans find me attractive/pleasant enough to be around to have sex with me". It's social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:12 PM
3

Why give them any reaction at all? I mean, that's the real question... but the subreddit kind of hinges on people like... responding and reacting to other peoples' posts. That aside... ... compassion and sympathy get you shit on. lol. I've tried being compassionate on a number of occasions here and on other forums and the response is generally "go die you chad-fucking whore" or some permutation thereof. Abdication of agency and personal responsibility is obnoxious. I think people are more tolera…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:08 PM
1

Are those necessarily mutually exclusive? What if I'm madly in love with my SO and living my best life and also happen to enjoy fighting with people on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 11:15 PM
3

or you're just using it as a jumping off point for your tired, predictable mgtow rant My money's on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 11:12 PM
0

Yes. "We'll just call ourselves committed without actually taking on any of the trappings of commitment".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:26 PM
2

There are women out there who are content to live the lifestyle that comes with a minimum wage paycheque... but they're probably not that common, not that attractive, and similarly unambitious. Nevertheless, if you do want to try to meet some of these women, it'll help if you put in some work toward being more attractive and/or interesting. Whether it's "worth" the investment of time and energy isn't something I can say without knowing where your values sit -- you'll have to answer that one for …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:32 PM
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All of this. He'd have to do a whole values/character/personality-180 to start doing things with the money that would be deal-breakers for me. ... and in that case, the money is only a symptom of the core issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:48 PM
2

ikr? I guess MGTOW is just a better acronym than MGTOWTTITBAW (men going their own way to the internet to bitch about women) But yeah, Reddit has a special talent for turning just about any idea or topic into a dumpster fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:44 PM
1

I mean, that wouldn't be a problem for -me- personally... the trouble is like... divulging that in an organic way to someone at the beginning of a potential relationship (if they haven't already just straight up ruled you out because of lack of experience) without seeming like a weirdo overshare-er. It's like the N-count obsession. That's probably a proxy for other bad character traits and if dudes want to screen based on that without bothering to invest the energy in figuring out the "why", I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:53 PM
1

I've been to McD's on a first date. lol. It's whatever. It's a public place to meet someone and talk to them a little and see whether you might want to spend some more time with them. Low stakes is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:51 PM
1

Eh, he does the shit that matters (to me). If you want a dude to tell you how pretty you are and take you to nice places and buy you flowers and jewelry, yeah, he's probably not a great candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:47 PM
1

I was once saying something Very Earnest to him and when I stopped for his response, he looks at me and goes, "<my name>, can I be totally honest with you?" and knowing his typical response when I get Very Earnest is to make fun of me, I say, "What, I'm gay as fuck?" and he responds, "That's probably what I would have said if I had been listening to you at all." I feel the need to clarify that he is otherwise a pretty attentive and super-reliable and awesome guy. I find these one-offs really fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:45 PM
1

I think the lack of experience itself would be less concerning than the reason for the lack of experience. If you're 40 years old and haven't had a relationship at all, or any relationships that have lasted longer than a year, people are going to wonder what character flaw you're hiding that has prevented you from bonding with another human.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 10:07 PM
2

Eh, absence of father is correlated to a bunch of unfavorable outcomes for kids. A two-parent household is optimal for child development generally. One study I found of 880 students out of LA indicated that absent father was correlated to a 4x increase in involvement in gang activity, which I suspect would be mostly young men. There are so many other factors to control for, of course, but I'd say that having an engaged father figure is pretty damn important in kids' lives, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 10:03 PM
2

That's fair. I don't think my SO has ever been super-concerned with appearing classy... or dated women who were super classy either, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:41 PM
1

I personally used it because I have no fucking idea how to flirt or indicate interest. I am totally socially retarded in that respect. At least meeting men on OLD sites, we could both know that we were ostensibly single and interested in sex and/or a relationship. I give off a really bro-y vibe that I think made it hard for me to transition a friendship to something romantic with men I met IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:36 PM
2

Some of his stories are amazing. lol. If one could teach dgaf, I think he'd be a great candidate to learn from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:24 PM
2

Why? Is there something about a burger that you can't have a pleasant conversation over it, rather than a $40 chicken entrée?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:19 PM
2

Traditional all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:47 PM
2

This is why coffee is a good first date idea imo. In scenarios 2 and 3, you don't know this woman at all. In addition to money, I don't see why you'd want to commit the time to somebody you may not have any chemistry with. With the coffee date, you can foot the whole bill and do the gentleman vibe thing without breaking the bank if that's what you want, and there's always the option to extend the date elsewhere if you click with the woman. I personally always at least offered to pay my own way o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:46 PM
1

Yeah I'm pretty neurotic but not that bad. idc about any of those things. I'd prefer that they not be in my direct line of sight at all times while we're trying to bone, but apart from that it's fine. ETA a funny (also TMI) related story. A few nights ago the SO and I were getting romantic in the bedroom and we hear this like... really long, sort of wet fart. We're both looking at each other like "... was that you?" and then I sit up and look over to find that our elder beast has ninja'd into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:16 PM
2

If it's actually transactional, as in the terms are plainly laid out and agreed to by both partners, it's whatever. No feelings in particular about that. It's the covert contracts around sex that get people in trouble imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:39 PM
4

r/woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:45 PM
6

Why can't guys just enjoy a girl's company without wanting to have sex with her? Yes we had dinner and nice conversation, that doesn't make you entitled to sex! Why are guys always trying to convince women to have sex? It makes the entire thing manipulative and weird. tl;dr men and women are different and operate differently wrt sex. Sry, sometimes reality sux.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:04 PM
1

He'd have to do a total character 180 for me to leave. I take my commitments seriously and a dad's presence is invaluable to kids so provided he was still being good to them I'd probably endure just about anything to keep him in their lives. Fortunately he's awesome and I love him and we both put in the work to keep things running smoothly between us so I don't foresee any of that happening. I don't cheat. At the first hint of chemistry with another person I stonewall them deliberately so nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:15 PM
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It's not a problem unless he gets all neurotic and defensive about it. I find this with a lot of things... the actual thing itself isn't a problem for me but the antsy fixation on the perceived shortcoming on his end gets hard to deal with. I'm not the most sensitive person. I've offended people unintentionally a lot... getting better about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:09 PM
4

Yup, totally agree. There's a reason women's male relatives chaperoned all their meetings with un-related men pre-sexual revolution. #metoo is why. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:55 PM
2

lol, right? I was a little floored that I had to explain it. If everyone except the people who were cool and popular in high school died alone, we'd be in big trouble as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:48 PM
1

That sux dude. =/ I grew up with my mom telling me shit like "it's ok that you're not smart like your brother". I have a graduate degree in a STEM field and a partner and a great career and 2 perfect kidlets. My brother turned 30 last year and lives in my dad's basement and thinks biweekly is an acceptable frequency for showers. Don't pay 'em any mind!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:29 PM
3

I will! Thank you for the recommendation :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:21 PM
5

I still love Henry Rollins. He looks really really good with grey hair. Who knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:20 PM
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Henry Rollins and Till Lindemann for me. The latter is definitely not conventionally attractive but there's something super sexy about him. I can't even describe what makes a man sexy without using dumb woo-woo terms like "intense" and "energy". lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:18 PM
1

Hng, Anthony Kiedis. Everything about that man is hot. He just keeps getting more attractive as he gets older too. I love that like... cheeky impish energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:14 PM
1

My life's mission is complete. lul.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 01:44 PM
1

Oral and vaginal probably around 20-25 dudes that I didn't end up in a relationship with afterward. I've never done anal (as the catcher, anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 03:04 AM
6

How did you just stop being ugly when you tried OLD? I didn't. But the crowd on a mainstream OLD site is larger, more diverse, and on average a little more emotionally mature than the assholes who were in my grade in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:53 AM
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This was basically my headcanon reality for most of my late teens/early adult years. I'd never been cool or popular, and was bullied quite a lot for my appearance. After getting out of my first fucked up LTR, I was legitimately SHOCKED when I started my foray into the online dating world, that men actually wanted to fuck me. It kinda sucked, but I made connections online where people could get to like my personality before seeing what I look like and while I was lonely I wasn't specifically thir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:22 PM
3

How does he looks like? I like lanky and glasses. Apart from that I really don't have strong looks preferences. Does he need to be well dressed? Well groomed? Clean is good. idc about well-dressed and excessive metrosexual grooming reads feminine to my lizard brain. How important is him making you laugh? Critical. How important is being polite, but also confident? I'm not that attached to "polite", but being a dick for no reason tends to get odious. Confidence is good. Do you care about his N co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 03:25 PM
1

I'm pretty straight so I've never sought out a threesome personally, but I'd do them for him with a professional. I wouldn't want any personal entanglements -- just sex and no contact ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 04:09 PM
4

Lube is a thing now. Hurray for science.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 04:06 PM
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Agree. It'll definitely be a dealbreaker for some dudes but that shouldn't be a major impediment. There are lots of men around. I'm 5'11" and have dated shorter than myself on several occasions. nbd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:41 PM
6

Based on some of the incel picture threads I've seen elsewhere, by my standards, looks were the primary problem for maybe like 20% of them, tops. The other ones just looked like regular guys. If I saw their pictures on a dating site back in my single days, before reading any other info, they wouldn't immediately make me go "no" so I can only infer that there's something else at play there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:52 PM
6

idk why people are still arguing this point. It's really insane. I mean... look at gay men vs gay women. Gay men are picking up in public bathrooms and cruising parks for dick and going to bathhouses. Lesbians... aren't. If men and women actually had equivalent sex drives, there'd be orgies in the streets. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:46 PM
3

We have two perfect little buddies. They are awesome, funny little people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:19 PM
2

The mountain would be better for me if you don't mind. I'm trying to do woman things in peace. Don't make me call a mod on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:13 PM
2

Good. Just where a woman belongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:07 PM
5

Is it a secret? idk, judging by the 2398423 "you're all cunts" posts that have popped up this week it seems to be fairly common knowledge. Go tell it on the mountain, dry-dick prophet. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:01 PM
6

Pft, typical woman. Coming to male spaces and expecting to be INFORMED of things. MEN don't have to inform WOMEN of anything. If he doesn't have an erection, make him a sandwich. That's all the information you need. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:59 PM
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Oh look, another boring "women are so RUDE" post... now with 100% less self-awareness. What are you doing in a space discussing male dating strategy when you're barely male and have literally no hope of ever scoring a date, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:43 PM
6

"WHY ARE ALL U WOMEN SUCH MISERABLE CUNTS ONLINE?" "Because being overly familiar with men online invites thirsty DMs and our husbands don't like that." "BITCH NOBODY CARES WHAT YOUR HUSBAND THINKS" spot the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:18 PM
4

Not until his wife/gf starts getting unsolicited thirsty PMs from dudes on the internet, anyway. They seem to understand after that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:13 PM
3

Funny story... I listed it as one of my interests back when Yahoo chat was a thing, hoping I'd repel the weirdos. Had an ACTUAL taxidermist contact me, lul.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:45 PM
3

I mean like... separately from banging chad. Still doesn't count? Well shit, back to the drawing board. ... taxidermy? I could take that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:20 PM
1

EFFICIENCY. Why ask a guy what his interests are to assess whether or not we'd be compatible when I can use a search online without having to interact with humans more than is absolutely necessary? It gets the boring getting to know you part out of the way so we can dive into the weka anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:08 PM
3

What about stalking Chad? Is that a hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:04 PM
14

This. I've tried to platonically "nice" and/or encourage incels out of their misery before on a few occasions and all it has ever ended in is inappropriate attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:21 PM
4

I can get behind this kind of motivational quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:42 PM
3

my dad can beat up your dad
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:55 PM
2

It's ok man, no need to be salty. People are super-accepting of kinks now. You can embrace your desire to be railed in the bumhole by women with rubber weewees. There's no need to lash out hurtfully like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:13 PM
7

Your biology makes you spout this insipid crapola? Get new biology. I hear stem cell treatments are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:54 PM
1

That's ok. They will just have to suffer joyless tragic existences, void of appreciation for my amazing humor. I'm ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:46 PM
1

My response is also a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:35 PM
3

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:33 PM
5

This sort of gay response is why I'm a cunt online.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:22 PM
4

Cause the men are simpering little bitchfaggots. Someone's got to fill the man role.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:50 PM
2

This beautiful piece of literature has moved me to tears. I do love being a woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:49 PM
5

None of these are about shoes or makeup or celebrities. This test is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:46 PM
1

More roofies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:21 PM
1

We're high IQ and wealthy, so all g.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:43 PM
3

No thx. I like to be the girl in my relationship. I'm the dominant one at work and in my peer groups tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:14 AM
0

It's true. Only chad has ever seen a vagina. 80% of men have never touched a boob. It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:09 AM
1

Yeah, that's a no from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:08 AM
1

noooo pleaseeee dont give up!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:06 AM
1

Yeah they're not very interesting tho. This was like... everyone in my social circle growing up. They're all fat weird nerds with fat weird nerdy wives now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:04 AM
1

I wasn't talking about YOU. I don't know the first thing about you. My point stands. If you're not being salty at other people for being too shallow to appreciate you, obviously my general observations that WEREN'T ABOUT YOU... aren't about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:01 AM
1

This right here. I like MGTOW as a concept, but the ones who trade chasing pussy for talking about how INFERIOR the FEEEEMALES are on the internet are retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 12:25 PM
0

... does the red flair mean something new now? Did I miss a memo?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:30 PM
2

Does anyone actually doubt the wall and women's awareness of it I don't think so, personally. People just like to strawman it as if "the wall" actually means "at exactly age 30 women become disgusting unfuckable hags" and then throw up pictures of Cindy Crawford to dispute that point. tbf I have seen more than one salty loser sort of use "the wall" that way so I guess I can see what's inspiring the strawman, but my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:16 PM
2

The multi-billion-dollar industry built around anti-aging products is also a subtle hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:14 PM
2

(and commitment)... from successful men. Look, we've gone full-circle back to where secret embarrassment desperation fucks from gross men aren't really a prize that women are excited to win! Déja vu.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:11 PM
1

Men want sex women want resources. Women are sex objects, men are success objects. You can't just ignore one half of the equation so that it fits your narrative. Well, you can. It's just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 08:05 PM
2

If you know some app developers, might be a good business venture, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 08:04 PM
2

You're probably not wrong. lol. The thirst is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:54 PM
1

You don't think unattractive dudes are out at clubs trying to buy women stuff to try to bone them? I've been out of the club scene for awhile but it was definitely a thing when I was younger, lol. Girls would go out and not even bother to bring any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:46 PM
1

Never. I feel like I'm a catch character and temperament-wise, but that didn't make me feel "better" than my partners, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:37 PM
7

average bald guy's options: nothing Not nothing -- buy hot women who won't fuck them dinners and trips and presents in hopes that they WILL fuck them. ... enough men choose that option too. It's the same shit imo. Women aren't fucking men for the sheer joy of getting pumped and dumped, they're rolling the dice hoping for more. Same as the dude shelling out for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:36 PM
6

rofl. This. "ok I'm going to neg you now so that you will get on my dick. I learned about this on Reddit". It's learning the behavior that "naturals" exhibit without thinking about it or being able to articulate what they're doing. Ideally you just look like a natural, even though you're running a red pill script in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:26 PM
1

You're essentially saying "If you can't get laid you're a piece of shit." No, I'm essentially saying that if you can't get laid, figure out why and fix it because looking down on people for failing to appreciate your unique brilliance while refusing to change yourself isn't going to get you laid. It's not useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 09:21 PM
1

I'm a post-wall hag now, but even when I was a fresh young virgin I didn't care whether potential partners were also virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:23 PM
1

I just attributed it to stupidity and poor planning. Which isn't really useful. Now I can know what I can reasonably expect from people and how to best use their strengths. It's made me a much more effective manager and effective person in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 01:44 PM
2

Makes her a cheap date. A box of crayons is a lot cheaper than a swanky entré and a bottle of the house wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 08:46 PM
12

If the guy's "smart enough" that he can be insightful enough to make me laugh, that's good enough for me. Genius-level IQ isn't really something I was motivated to find in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 08:45 PM
1

It's not. But I'm not shooting up campuses because I can't get any girls to like the real me, so obviously it's fairly important to some (most) humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 07:26 PM
1

It's allowed me a "good reason" (my value judgment) to accept perspectives other than my own. It's helped me be more open-minded. It's not that some people fail to plan or see the big picture because they're dumb, it's that they're just not wired that way... and that their way of thinking comes with some advantages that my way (future-focused big picture thinker) doesn't. Maybe other people already knew that, maybe they don't care about being open minded, but in my estimation, it's helped me be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 07:23 PM
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I mean, it kind of is in terms of being palatable to other humans. I'm just so bored of this attitude that other peoples' lack of enthusiasm for looking past your weirdness or your lack of impulse control or whatever it is is somehow a moral failing on their part. They just don't know or appreciate the REAL you, they're shallow and fake, blablabla. Very few people WANT to be alone their whole lives and I for one would be pleased if we could stop shoring up social failure with this misplaced sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:11 PM
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They're supposed to have no standards at all because they are FAT and SINGLE MOMS and POST-WALL... and jump on any dick willing to have them, so that they can then also be derided for being sluts. Nah, just a bunch of sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:50 PM
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1) What are you general thoughts on this? Capitalism, baby. If someone's willing to buy, I don't see why people shouldn't try to sell. 2) Have you purchased any products from anyone on The Manosphere? No. I did donate $50 to an organization developing male birth control tho, which I heard about through TRP. 3) Are there any other notable instances of monetization I did not cover that you know about? There are a number of manlyman life coaches who put out Youtube videos who will enumerate the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:40 PM
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No, it's a manifestation of that "women are more interested in people, men are more interested in things" observation that everyone finds so objectionable. If women are more interested in people and social order, it seems to follow that they'd be interested in the particular people who are winning at the social hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:25 PM
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I mean, there are some things in my past that I think I could have done better, but ultimately I'm really really happy with my life right now and that temporary suffering that I went through at various points in my past seems a small price to pay for what I have now. I wouldn't go back and change anything -- wouldn't want to risk having my present turn out some different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:22 PM
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This "really in love with you" is such a dumb fucking goalpost to try to clear. What the fuck does that even mean? Is there some well-defined line between someone who treats you well and acts in partnership with you because they REALLY love you versus doing it for a different, less admirable reason? Isn't the result the same either way? Being a trash human being and presuming to test other people with it as some sort of way of assessing whether they can reach the benchmark for "REALLY LOVING ME …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:20 PM
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I find it useful -- systematizing the way people take in and process and act on information has allowed me to make inferences about what's motivating them in particular instances where I used to be totally clueless (which is sort of a hallmark of my type). It's not a perfect science -- it's not going to give you 100% predictive power for everyone's behavior, obviously (and nor is any behavioral science or psychology), but the trends have been reliable enough to be useful for me personally. I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:12 PM
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My parents were both about as functional as two humans can reasonably be expected to be. There was very little hardship in my upbringing -- both were very involved with us kids, but put each other first and always presented a united front. They were best friends and lovers and partners for 40 years until my mom died in 2016. I hope to replicate that experience! So far so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 02:53 AM
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Depends which is more valuable -- if being alone is making you more miserable than changing yourself would, change yourself. If not, keep looking for someone who'll tolerate "the real you".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 02:53 PM
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Even if you date and find "the one", they are at times going to seem intolerably mean/retarded. You run the gauntlet of all the feels over the course of a 20-30 year long marriage. With an arranged marriage, at least you start from a base of common values and social support, so you're less likely to lust your way into a premature commitment with someone with totally incompatible beliefs, so there's that. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't have an arranged marriage, just pointing out that mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 07:25 PM
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You supposedly don't care about what women do, offer your opinion on what women do, and then respond with "oh I forgot, womens' POVs are the only ones that matter" when it's pointed out to you that women generally don't find your reasoning very compelling. Ok then, good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:27 PM
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You're pointing out the obvious and then getting mad when LKF (rightly in my estimation) points out that women don't care about any of what you've said. Most women who sign onto be trophy wives to rich men know what they're in for, and they do it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:12 PM
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If the only people "qualified" to dispense advice and wisdom are the ones whose worldviews are untainted by "trauma", then that eliminates like... everyone. "Taking the red pill" IS taking care of yourself and learning from experience. I'd wager a bunch of these guys have tried licensed therapy too and found that it's mostly useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:02 PM
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Yeah, pretty much. And if you're like 99% of people, you'll probably get it wrong at LEAST once. This doesn't need to be the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:59 PM
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It's not a fix-all guarantee panacea, but suppose you're a woman with options who wants a family... all else being equal, you want to make babies with a man who can offer you and your offspring options and protections that come with money and status, or... not? I don't think you'll find a lot of women advocating for marrying someone you hate just because he has money, but it's a definite consideration to be weighed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:56 PM
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No, but that's the POV this particular comment is referring to... people who date men. Mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:53 PM
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Yeah the idea of sex with my ex disgusted me. There were other issues with the relationship, but they were def at least tangentially related to that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 07:06 PM
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Nah, no thx. I'm ok with dealing with woman shit, even as an unattractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 04:31 PM
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All of them before my current SO. I have a very.. uh.. "strong personality" (read: traditionally masculine) so I tended to attract more quiet, withdrawn, submissive men. Initially I loved being the protector/provider and the sexual aggressor. I was like "yay, balance! This works!" but I inevitably ended up infantilizing these men over time and once the new relationship energy wore off and I started regarding the men more as charges to take care of and protect, I stopped wanting to fuck them... w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 04:29 PM
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chloroform.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:36 AM
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Nope. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:20 AM
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Funny and physically attractive (by my standards) and actively flirting with me, like touching and escalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:13 PM
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Yes. Men should be in touch with and express their feelings! Except when they feel things we find uncomfortable. Also men are emotionally constipated. Y'all can't win. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 01:11 PM
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Solipsistic denial of reality -- yee, flaunt that actual woman cred, girllll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 04:13 AM
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"WOMAN, WHY WILL YOU NOT DISTRIBUTE YOUR BUTTHOLE IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER? I DEMAND SATISFACTION" So arousing. I'd def be into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:47 PM
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That's not the norm for women. Poll some. Or do a search -- p sure this has come up here before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:13 PM
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The other "side" is always worse. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:24 PM
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You've got the order of it wrong. Something turns a woman on and she goes looking for new creative ways to get off. It's not like... ever-present and predatory like male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:10 PM
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"Red women" just aren't in denial about the effect of testosterone on sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:08 PM
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Because women don't have dicks and their arousal and sexuality are reactive rather than spontaneous. They don't have boner-devils on their shoulders going, "HEY YOU COULD PROBABLY FUCK THE COUCH CUSHIONS. I BET MAYO WOULD MAKE GOOD LUBE!". The impetus to get good at having orgasms isn't there in the same way as it is for dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 08:43 PM
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Edit: the few divorces I personally know enough about to have at least an idea of what happened involved people who got married too young/too quickly or for the wrong reasons or infidelity. I'm in my mid-30s. This has been the case in my peer group as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 04:53 PM
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Sure, idc. I care more about a man's emotional attachment than sexual exclusivity and always have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 12:44 AM
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... so? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:22 PM
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Yeah, dudes who are banging to their heart's content don't go looking for TRP. Dudes who get their souls shit in, or neurotic, spergy overthinkers are overrepresented in TRP. They're not "naturals" -- they're fucking weird and women reject them for it. If the RP "system" and "game" helps them be less lonely and be more interesting partners for women, I say they should go for it. The terminology is probably pretty cringe to "normies"... but it's not for them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:15 PM
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It's overrated to a set of men with particular values. There is no shortage of men who would like to bang a lot while avoiding investing a lot of resources in the "soft harem". Spinning plates is for those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:10 PM
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That's how it's always been, tho. You don't distinguish yourself and get fame and money with "it's hard and I don't have a good answer" :p
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:30 PM
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Hopefully learn from their fuck-ups so they can evolve into some sort of functional happy medium between suicidally emotionally isolated and unfuckable sack of slop. idk. Humaning sucks sometimes. There's no good or easy answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:08 PM
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It's almost like any decision a person makes comes with both positive and negative consequences, and extremes often aren't very functional ways to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:04 PM
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I don't know that I've ever seen anyone deny that it's easier to get dick than it is to get pussy. I think what we disagree on is just what kind of "privilege" that constitutes. Characterizing being treated like a crusty sock or a fleshlight as "privilege" is strange to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 07:33 PM
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Leave it to you to miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:51 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:47 PM
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You can be ugly or stay indoors!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:45 PM
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It's recognition that men and women are different and want different things. What men and women choose to do with that info to serve their personal agendas is up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:23 PM
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Here I am acknowledging it on behalf of all vaginakind: Male thirst is real. Just chemically castrate all the men and watch all the privilege just dry up and disappear. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:21 PM
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They don't have to, but they do, and it has real, tangible effects on your life because you at some point rely on society and other humans for stuff. I'm not interested in discussing human behavior in the context of make-believe land where humans don't human. It's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:16 PM
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... if they can stay in a comfortable relationship where they're getting service and deference and affection and can also get sex elsewhere. I can see men going for that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:13 PM
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If she wants kids, yeah, that'll be a hard strike against you. But if you are so averse to having kids that you want to get a vasectomy, that shouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:10 PM
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I'm not sure what point you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:07 PM
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I don't believe in "not able".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:07 PM
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Marriage is "just" whatever the two people in it make of it. But there's more social pressure to maintain a marriage by abiding by the rules than there is to maintain a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, and social pressure matters to a lot of people... since humans are like... social animals and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:05 PM
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Thank you for hijacking my comment to make an unrelated point and air out your saltiness. I hope it was good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:04 PM
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Yeah... I mean, it's not a perfect system, obviously, since people are still cheating. But taking vows in front of your community sort of puts an unofficial onus on them to help shore up the marriage and the commitment. It's all like... unwritten and mostly unspoken social rules, but I think that's the reason behind having friends and family attend your wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:02 PM
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Nono, other way around. Destroy the reputations of single women who go after husbands. eta: married women protecting marriages from the slutty nubile 20 year olds their husbands could probably be persuaded to bang. :p That kind of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 08:38 PM
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I think when dudes hear this it says they are an accessory to women as a husband. Like, I get that. But if you were told to give an example of why you would personally marry, a tax exemption or other people believe in it seems...impersonal. Yeah, I think I probably was operating based on the same discussion that I've had with a lot of "DONT GET MARRIED" red pillers. :p The most obvious reason is that you love a person and want to spend your life with them and that's what you do by tradition when…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 08:25 PM
1

I prefer "penis cozies" personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 08:12 PM
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Social legitimacy. We can pick apart tradition with rational arguments til the cows come home but that doesn't change the fact that "my boyfriend" is never going to carry the same weight as "my husband". It provides a certain level of social recognition and protection for your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 07:22 PM
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It's serious. Women want to get and keep whatever they consider to be a high-quality man. Now that you have him, you're in the "keep him" phase. Not all red pillers are tradcons. lol. There's no requirement to be a housewife or make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 07:16 PM
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TOO GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. Sounds like a tough burden to bear :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 06:08 PM
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You should do whatever keeps your particular husband happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 05:54 PM
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34F with a 29M. We met on Starcraft 2. Not a viable strategy for almost anyone, but it worked for us!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 05:51 PM
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Because when women say they "like" a man they mean "enjoy spending time with him, are comfortable with him, find his company pleasant". What men mean when they say a woman "likes" a man, is that the woman wants to fuck the man. Therein lies the discrepancy. Women don't want to be partners with a super-aggressive poon-hound alpha... but they're not overwhelmed with the animalistic urge to fuck sweet, non-threatening billy beta. Ideally you get a relationship with some of both dynamics at differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 05:49 PM
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Current/visible MLM's target economically insecure SAHM, and relies on their extensive FSM to spread. Agree -- SAHMs want income without having to compromise their priorities/time... and their family already has a primary breadwinner. Most traditional jobs don't let you pick your hours. I think that's why these MLMs appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 05:45 PM
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Because women see all of the upsides of the masculine role while ignoring the downsides. I think we'll see a swing back in the other direction as all of these women who choose/default into career over children and family get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 05:42 PM
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Yes. I don't think it'd fix all the incel problems because I think what men want as much as pussy is like... the admiration, dedication and respect of a woman they desire, which a hooker can't really give them. But sure, why not? Dudes who're all impaired by cultural norms and expectations might get to bang more and women can close the pay gap. Go hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 09:49 PM
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Men aren't walking around using sex to get money and resources out of women Yeah totally. The friendzone isn't even a thing. Men give friendship (their time, emotional investment and sometimes gifts) to women and get women's friendship and they're definitely never salty about not also getting sex. Why do they have to get something extra out of women instead of just friendship in return? You're seeing one side of the "men are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are the gatekeepers of sex" equati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 08:26 PM
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Why do you need internet strangers to validate your life choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:14 PM
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Of course men play games as well, but I think there is a fundamental difference here. The games that women play are ones that try to take advantage of men, while the games that men play are ones that attempt to prevent this from happening. "Men and women play games to try to get as much as possible (sex and time/resources, respectively) out of each other with the minimum investment... but only women are bad and wrong for doing it." M'kay then. Seems like a reasonable assessment of the state of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:16 PM
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The term "boi" makes me dry-heave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 09:12 PM
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No you have to go and be successful and respected by your peers and stuff. eta: then you get to do cool fun stuff like own yachts and snort cocaine off of supermodels' butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 08:12 PM
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They're the winners of the FSM. They managed to marry the rich successful guy and can now spend their time on beauty treatments and brunches -- that's how you win the game, if you're female. Do I think that's distasteful? Kinda, but that's how it's always worked and my personal feelings on the issue don't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 07:46 PM
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I lol'd at this until I cried.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 06:24 PM
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Women find competent and masterful attractive. "why are you on here" isn't a deep, probing question looking for truth. It's a casual ice-breaker intended to assess whether or not you're a fucking weirdo. You failed the test. You've misinterpreted the question, responded ham-fistedly, and now you're moralizing about THE TRUTH to make yourself feel better about shitting the bed. Stahp. Nobody wants to hear gross "nobody else wanted to bone me but maybe you will, new Tinder friend?" truth, no matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 04:24 PM
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Mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:31 PM
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"Paid bonding" is my favorite typo of the day, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:29 PM
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idc except at the extremes of the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:43 PM
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Jay Cutler and Hafthor Bjornsson are like... professionals. They do that shit full-time. Most dudes aren't pro bodybuilders or strongmen. I'm always baffled by this notion that if you go to the gym, a physique like that just happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 03:07 PM
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I wouldn't be interested in a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 07:03 AM
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I was never open to dating a single father when I was single, myself. Now I have kids of my own. If something happened to their dad, I don't think I'd do any serious dating AT LEAST until they were launched (if at all), but at that point I'd consider another single parent in a similar situation. I have no interest in step-parenting anybody else's kids. Most of my friends are child-free. I think it's kinda short-sighted, but not "strange", perse. Realistically, being a single mother is probably s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 09:57 PM
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I feel like this is a solid QED. "Men don't understand that it takes work to stay slim." Women: "yes I carefully track my 1200 calories a day" Men: "LOL NO, NOBODY EATS THAT LITTLE" The thing speaks for itself. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 08:18 PM
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I went once and haven't wanted to go again since cause meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 03:44 AM
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Of course my SO's opinion of my appearance matters to me. He's pretty much the only other human (besides myself) that I have to please with my looks. I mean, I don't think I'd be GUTTED to know that he thought I was a 6 because I've kind of gotten used to the idea that I am Not Hot, and thus have to bring other shit to the table, which is fine with me, but if he pointed out a particular flaw that bothered him you bet your ass I'd do just about anything to "fix" it to his satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 04:06 PM
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Spotted the salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 03:08 PM
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I'm not claiming that looks don't exist. Obviously women can spot that a man at the extremely attractive end of the scale is attractive, but unless you're a couple standard deviations above the mean, your looks as expressed by a static picture without any context aren't going to really register to women. Same thing's true on the opposite end fwiw, but these are EXTREMES and not the experience of the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 03:08 PM
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Cause he makes SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 10:18 PM
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Petition to redefine "the SMP" as a sex cult. All in favor?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 10:15 PM
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While I don't agree that 80% of males are not attractive to women. This is the problem with so many "studies" on OkCupid -- it totally ignores that a lot of female attraction is in response to a man's "vibe". You don't get arousal in women looking at a picture of an attractive person the same way you do in men. If you show women pictures of dudes with no context, no charm, no sexiness, most of them are going to register a "meh" at best. I've tried so hard to explain this so many times, but the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:59 PM
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Anecdotally, my old roommate in grad school was 5'3" and could bring home a couple of different women a week. Be fit, be funny, be interesting. It's harder but it's not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 02:21 PM
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I'm 5'10" and gave up on feeling dainty a long time ago. The shortest man I've dated was probably about 5'7". I don't really have a "limit" tho. Height's not something that's a dealbreaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:28 PM
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AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:45 PM
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Seriously. Brilliance in one small area doesn't translate generally to "functional human". It can, but ime, that wasn't the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 12:53 PM
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The trades -- good money if you're reliable, intelligent, and don't have any substance abuse problems. He checks all those boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 12:52 PM
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1) As a general rule? It's probably not a great idea. Single motherhood isn't good for the woman or the kid, and I think all else being equal, marriage is indicative of a greater level of investment on the man's part. 2) See above. 3) Yeah, probably. There are no guarantees with or without a legal marriage, but I'd say the odds are better WITH the marriage. It also probably depends on how long they've been together and whether they live in a state that recognizes common-law unions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 06:31 PM
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Yes. Jesus. I taught some of them who ostensibly graduated after taking the class I was TAing for. I despair for the future, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:30 PM
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I did, my SO is a high school dropout. He also out-earns me (I have a graduate degree in a STEM field) and is the hardest-working person I know. Having spent some time in academia, I can assure you that using degrees as proxies for character is a losing game. Lots of burn-outs with no life skills have prestigious degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:29 PM
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This. I thought I wanted "a boy" but now that we have our kids (both girls), their individual personalities and characters are so much more than "girl" or "boy". I can't imagine not having either of them even though they aren't the gender I "wanted".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:21 PM
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Character never loses value. You're not wrong, but the value of character is lower than the value of beauty for women in particular. Enjoy your youth while you've got it and develop character to fall back on when you get old and saggy. Best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:51 PM
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It's a pretty unique situation. They managed to amass a bunch of reasonably self-motivated introverts. I technically "manage" my group, but I do very little actual directing or controlling of my team -- I'm just there for reference/solutions when they can't figure something out. ... anyway, digression, but it's the tits *if you can find a fairly small group of people with the right temperaments. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 09:28 PM
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The idea that older men have more options than older women is an illusion What makes you think that 50 year old women care about their SMV? You think a 50 year old woman's out there cruising for dick? No, they want a stable companion to grow old and share experiences with.... problem is, the things that make men willing to "settle down" and say bye-bye to variety (things like youth, beauty, fertility) are pretty much dried up at 50. This post surprises me -- it's usually the men who operate unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:58 PM
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Agreed. My entire company works remotely. It is the tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:48 PM
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“There’s not a company in the world that can afford to leave talent on the sidelines because it’s female,” I reject that this is happening. If someone in a position of power within an organization spots a quality in a candidate that they think they can leverage to make the organization stronger, I absolutely refuse to believe that they'd pass up the opportunity because, "she might #metoo me :(" I looked up "reasons people choose to become mentors" and most of it was like "shape the leaders of to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:47 PM
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The premise is that they should be able to dress and act as filthy as they feel like, but that men should know that they're still not entitled to touch them without their consent. SLUTS HAVE RIGHTS, you know. It originally was a political statement against the dismissal of rape allegations based on "she was asking for it, look how she was dressed" by judges. I imagine most of them involved now just want attention. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:19 PM
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It's usually the SJW feminist types who claim this type of thing. Like men are suppressing women's natural super horniness or something by slut shaming or whatever. I don't know how it works. ... and the post /u/exit_sandman linked below. Downplaying if not completely denying the importance of physiological differences between men and women is sort of a necessary premise if you want to argue that differences in average outcome between the sexes is down to PATRIARCHAL OPPRESSION and socialization…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:08 PM
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SJW feminist types They're notorious for observing reality as it is and not moralizing about it. ... oh wait. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:14 PM
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Can men and women ever really be described as being sexually equal? No. And anyone who tells you otherwise is delusional or has an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:05 PM
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No, never. I slept with most men on the first date though so that probably told them all they needed to know, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:16 PM
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why women should do them? Cause someone has to do them and he serves our family in other ways. He does all the yard and vehicle maintenance as well as any construction-related home improvements, and is the designated murderer of anything that goes bump in the night. Feeding him and folding his laundry isn't such a bad trade for all he brings to my life. If you don't like doing chores, make more money and hire someone to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:17 PM
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BAD BOT
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 11:13 PM
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I did it once but idk if it counts as flaking. I had online dating fatigue -- that feeling where you're like "oh my god everyone on this website is a narcissistic shyster shitbag" and you don't want to take out your general frustration on specific people with whom you might otherwise match nicely (I'm sure those of you who have internet dated know what I mean). I explained the situation to the dude really directly and he was ok with canceling the date. We ended up going out a few weeks later. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 11:04 PM
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This is the crux of the madonna-whore issue. Threesomes, expert-level blowjobs and sexual freedoms are great things for one's penis, but not the sort of things that a man's looking to have his wife teach his daughters. Men who are less "family-oriented" are probably less likely to give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 02:28 PM
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I'll usually say something but don't really expect to be taken seriously. Related to that, it's the same shit with my male friends. If they're infatuated with a woman, no amount of toxic insanity on her part will dissuade them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:40 PM
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I didn't say otherwise. The term AWALT just happens to refer to women-people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:39 PM
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Nah, AWALT. This is what AWALT is for, to remind men that women (ALL WOMEN) will still shit in your soul under the right circumstances, no matter how virtuous they may superficially appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:16 PM
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Disagree with the "they don't find you attractive". This is like... textbook LMR. He should have just taken a couple steps back and escalated again from there, but instead, he opens his big mouth... “Whether you fuck me tonight, or we go on 10 dates and you fuck me then, it doesnt provide insurance against you getting P&D. If you think that holding back the pussy, and going on a bunch of dates is going to make me want you more, i feel sorry for you.” And this whiny rationalizing spiel dries her …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 12:09 PM
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Because it's not important -- they're not dating men, they're trying to vet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 08:29 PM
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Yes. It gave me insight into what makes him tick -- what he wants, what it "means" when he does x, y and z, and advice for not taking it personally when what he wants inadvertently hurts my feelers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:12 PM
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This is the truth right here, OP. When he texts you in a few months like nothing happened and puts on the charm, remember how you feel rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:08 PM
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It doesn't, but it might make them less inclined to go Eliott Rodger, while they're figuring shit out. It feels nice to be empathized with, for other people to acknowledge and validate your pain and suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 05:08 AM
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I don't think I've ever gotten "creep" vibe off a dude who approached me. They've been shy and awkward, but shy and awkward is sort of my tribe, so it doesn't read as menacing or weird to me. I also have never thought much of my looks, so even if I wasn't available or interested, I've always been flattered that any man would bother at all, lol. I met my SO on Starcraft 2. We belonged to the same clan. He was ESTP-ing it up, and is generally hilarious and a lot of fun to be around -- that's what …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 12:36 AM
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I never needed an emotional connection and never regarded it as "YOU MUST EARN SEX BY GIVING ME EMOTIONAL CONNECTION", such that "... unless you're really hot then I'll bang you without investment from you" was a thing. If I wanted sex with a particular guy, I had sex with him. There was never any opportunity for a man I found unattractive to "earn" sex from me by offering emotional connection -- the whole notion is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 03:54 PM
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I always got my wallet out at the end of an early-on date to pay my own way. If he insisted on paying, I just said thank you. Once I was "dating" a man, I paid for both of us for the outings I suggested. With my SO, we just pool all of our money -- there is no "his" or "mine".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 03:51 PM
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Marriage isn't FOR sex. When you're 60 and get some nasty health diagnosis, what good will hot dickings from jacked randos do you? You get married to build a common history with a person who shares your values and goals. I suspect this is why people don't really see the value of it until they start experiencing their first tastes of mortality. I mean, hopefully you still make the effort to have exciting sex with your partner, but a 50 year marriage (particularly for women) is not something you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 05:31 PM
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Jesus, I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this. Sending you good vibes. Catching it so early is good, but fingers crossed for benign.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 04:51 PM
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If you require that the concept of freedom exists in absolutes, then sure, you have a point. But it doesn't exist in absolutes if we're talking about reality, which is where we mostly live and operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:55 PM
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No, it's an extreme end of the argument about freedom vs consequence. It's not missing the point. I'm making the distinction that in the west we differentiate between "free from consequences" and "free from unreasonable consequences". The law steps in to dictate the "unreasonable" part. I'm free to judge other peoples' choices based on my own system of morals and values. I'm less free to murder people whose choices I don't like. So to get back to your "should women's sexuality be free", the answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:45 PM
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I mean, I guess we step in with legal constraints on personal freedom where we universally decide that the cost of that particular freedom is too high, which is based on cultural norms and values. People should be free to shame people whose choices they disapprove of, but they shouldn't be free to murder people whose choices they disapprove of. We have certain culturally-moderated perceptions of what consequences are acceptable for personal freedom. Is female sexuality free if women are shamed f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:30 PM
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How is it NOT contradictory to say that you should have preferences and NOT have preferences at the same time? It's two separate issues -- the first part is about whether people SHOULD be free. Not speaking for Atlas but I think I see where she's coming from. People should be free to have their own preferences even if those preferences aren't things I agree with personally. Freedom trumps a personal sense of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:08 PM
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That'd be a really weird and neurotic thing to do, but given that I am also weird and neurotic I don't think I'd judge him too harshly for it. Would definitely be on high alert for less benign weird neuroticism after that tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 05:58 AM
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would the fact that he drove a 2012 Prius as opposed to say a 2018 BMW 7 series affect his fuckability? I couldn't tell one of these from the other, so in my case, no. idgaf about cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 05:52 AM
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I always looked for feminine men and was the pursuer, but that never ended up working for me in the long term. I kind of stumbled across my current SO by accident -- he did the pursuing, and is very masculine. 6 years and counting, and I still respect the shit out of him and find him very desirable. ... so yeah, left to my own devices, my picker sucks. Fortunately my SO saved me from myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:28 AM
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I'm sure it does play a role... how much probably depends on the person. All sorts of diverse relationships can work, but if you're looking to be a monogamous pair for the next 50 years through time and gravity and all that looks-destroying jazz, I think compatibility has to be more important than raw physical attraction. Changes to habits or whatever are one thing, but trying to suppress core values or beliefs systems just because you like the look of someone's butt is a losing game imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:15 AM
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Yeah, that's fair -- compatibility is half the battle, finding someone whose demands aren't too odious to meet. It's tough to make something work with somebody who has completely different values and priorities -- is it a common thing for people to attempt this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 02:34 PM
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I game and go to the gym. On rare occasions I draw. I listen to podcasts and youtube videos on topics that interest me (currently MBTI and psychology stuff for the mostpart, but also fitness and nutrition and manosphere stuff). I cook a lot and enjoy it as a creative pursuit but it's not really a "pastime" activity cause my family needs to eat. I work full-time and have 2 kids under 3 and do most of the house upkeep so I don't really have a ton of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 02:30 PM
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It's a matter of priorities. If being your "true authentic self" is getting you interest from the kind of partner you want, then cool, no problem. The issue is when being your true authentic self DOESN'T get you interest from the kind of partner you want... then you have to make a call -- is hanging onto the less desirable parts of "yourself" worth shrinking your pool of potential mates? All comes down to what you value more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 02:02 PM
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Women regard themselves as oppressed victims of the patriarchy which REQUIRES them to be slim. Thus they are casting off their shackles and rebelling with fat acceptance! I don't think the average man regards himself as a victim with shackles to cast off (outside of reddit, anyway). It's all bullshit anyway. No amount of "fat acceptance" insanity will ever make fat women desirable or valuable on a large scale (pun intended)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:21 PM
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Did I miss the part where it wasn't an echo chamber? I think I must have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:16 PM
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No. I have (some) morals, and I've always been able to find unmarried dick of suitable quality with like... a bare minimum of effort. This isn't out of some sense of loyalty to the hypothetical dude's wife, it's a matter of personal integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:41 AM
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You suck at confirmation bias, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:00 AM
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Women want a man that she regards as better than herself in some arena of accomplishment/personality that she values. She wants to "marry up", but that doesn't always mean more money or status (though it often does). ETA: your personal definition looks good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:08 PM
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Why can women not be honest with themselves and the people they are attracted to? Why can't cats do dog things? That's not how women are wired. You'll get the occasional freak of nature woman who IS direct, but then you also get all the negatives that go with... a woman who is direct about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:56 PM
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idk what view you're looking to have changed. Being "relationship focused" is usually a losing strategy though, as a dude. As much as I hate their gay adages, the manospherian "chase excellence, not women" seems to apply here. Do other shit that fulfills you, become successful and interesting. Do this for your own sense of purpose and not for women, but also know that women like success and excellence and interesting-ness so you also stand a decent chance of attracting a more diverse pool of pot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:54 PM
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That MGTOW sense of humor. I am tickled!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 05:22 PM
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Right? wtf is this, even? "Women still do most of the household shit including most of the interactions with the kids." Conclusion: women are opportunistic garbage who don't care about men. u wot, m8?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:54 PM
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None of it was really shocking, perse. I initially misinterpreted what RPW was for. I was like "how much do y'all hate yourselves to be trying to appease these salty sacks of shit on the men's side?" ... but then I started actually interacting with the RPW and everything became clear. idk. It was kind of a relief to find a place where I didn't have to pretend that human nature doesn't suck ass. lol. I felt like I found my people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:17 PM
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The wall doesn't necessarily happen at 30, and it's not some magical thing where you wake up one day and you are universally disgusting to men. It's when the pretty fades enough that you become invisible, like most men and unattractive women. People stop giving you the benefit of the doubt, stop going out of their way to be nice or accommodate you. Men don't see you and think sexual things -- they just don't see you at all. I agree that most RPers are probably using it incorrectly (imo) as part …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:49 PM
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1, no. 2 only in as much as it contributes to dread (ETA: and intra-FSM competition) 3) Make her feel intense emotions. Yes. Be a dangerous bad-boy, drug dealer, criminal, someone who disregards the rules. Not necessarily. "Be exciting" is the less moralizing and more accurate version of the above. Be someone exciting within a niche that she appreciates, and then escalate. Female sexuality doesn't work like male sexuality -- it's not as simple as "see hot meatsack, get boner". Sexual attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:38 PM
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I don't know what you're doing wrong, but your story doesn't add up for me so I feel like there's something major that you're either not seeing or in denial about and haven't included. If you have friends or family who're likely to be brutally honest with you and not bullshit you to spare your feelings, I might solicit their input in your shoes. Otherwise, my suggestion is: monk mode until you figure out the pattern. Bitterness is really off-putting in either sex and it's going to create a bitch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:16 AM
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I don't care at all. If I like him and he likes me, thundercats are go. If you are a woman who doesn’t think much about it, what are the things you do care about in a male romantic partner? Funny, integrity, good-looking (to me), common interests, good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:34 PM
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Sex CAN be no big deal with someone that you're reasonably sure you're not going to fall in love with. If you're FWBing and one of you "catches feelings" and the other one doesn't, that's almost certain to explode the whole shebang.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:19 PM
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Either he's a nice person but gross and you don't want to fuck him, or you like his company and don't want to risk complicating shit with romantic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:17 PM
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How does one "technically shower"? How is that distinguished from regular showering?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:14 PM
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Her love for you was too conditional. If you were chad jr she'd have bought you the good stuff. God, women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:10 PM
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blablabla, generalizations and stuff. But yeah. I think TRP is dumb to moralize about shitty conditional female love, and that they're conveniently characterizing differences in what men and women bring to a relationship as "only men love unconditionally".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:43 PM
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so I can be better than all the other women Yeah, that's what I was trying to imply with that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:41 PM
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Okay, the whole first case you've presented is like... he loves the way she makes him feel. She makes him feel desirable, so he loves her. Which is the same criticism I hear of "female love". She doesn't love you, she only loves what you do for her, how you make her feel. Do you think a man whose wife has been a miserable frigid, nagging bitch for the last 5 years is more or less likely to cheat with the cute young thing than a man whose wife has been a devoted and nurturing partner for the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:40 PM
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it will get men to have sex with them Yeah, you're projecting male motivation on women. Women don't go out all like "I'm going to be pretty today so I can get a man to have sex with me". It's "I want to be pretty so I can get a well-respected man to partner with me so I can be better than all the other women and he can show me off to demonstrate that he's better than all the other men."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:12 PM
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love IS conditional Only feeeeeemale love. Second-rate love. No-name, off-brand love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:09 PM
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So it has nothing to do with the purity of lurv, but rather the availability of other options, is what you're saying. I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:06 PM
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Nah, the "condition" is that the other person doesn't do something he deems unacceptable.... which is like, how everyone loves. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:03 PM
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I have a graduate degree, my SO dropped out of high school. He's very intelligent, just didn't really jive with the whole classroom learning model of edumacation. I've never dated someone more educated than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:27 PM
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I personally don't think they're ashamed. More frightened of being judged. Same shit, as far as outcomes are concerned. But being a hoe isn't a shitty trait, it's a core part of who you are and it isn't ruining the planet. This is according to you. Just because you don't agree that female promiscuity is destroying civilization doesn't erase that this perception is still prevalent enough in mainstream society to be A Thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:34 AM
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lol, I WAS a ho, thx. I don't have a problem with it. But it doesn't require a great deal of imagination to conceive of why women might feel shame over their "degenerate" or "hedonistic" desires and try to erase those as part of their "best self" presentation for people whose approval they're invested in obtaining. Being a shitcunt on the other hand...... If thinking that people should strive to fix or minimize what they perceive as the garbage parts of themselves rather than expecting others to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:22 AM
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It's not "sad". It's reality. You give the best version of yourself to the people you're invested in. This presentation of the shitty parts of yourself as "THE REAL ME" as if your flaws are somehow special or noble is dumb. Don't impose that shit on your partner under some kind of "well if you REALLY loved me you'd accept this" covert contract. I am 100% in favor of the "suck less" approach to relationships, over the "accept the real me!" approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:12 AM
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Enough men think that way to make women paranoid about it, even if the reality isn't as dire as these women think. I didn't quote anything, but you're probably right -- the guys who want to wife you until you fuck them on date 1 are probably an aberration, statistically. Problem is that most women at least to some extent consider sex as "giving of themselves" to a guy, and there's no foolproof way to know up front whether the guy's going to fuck n' chuck. At least with dudes you don't consider "…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:48 AM
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Did you read the other threads on this topic? There's more than random happenstance to suggest that if you fuck a guy on the first date, he won't call for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:34 AM
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Both, imo. Fertility markers on a more visceral level, and then cultural fashions and class markers come into play on a more intellectual level. One's lizard brain attraction, the other is "how do I pick a woman who will show other men favorable things about my standing in the social matrix".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 07:17 PM
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That woman looks very empowered. You go, girl!
/r/MensRights09/04/19 08:06 PM
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Anything less is just fake female love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:51 PM
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OT and sorry to hijack... ... but "red pill" is just like any other social group, or religion. So long as you believe that the core tenets are true, what you do with it from there becomes an individual thing. You're right that "red pillers" (and red pill men in particular) en-masse are probably never going to approve of you, but that's no reason you can't take the unvarnished insights into what men want and use them to your advantage in whatever way you see fit :) I find personally that being ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:42 PM
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Those women loved their husbands for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:30 PM
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I like men irl. I like their humor and their energy and thought processes a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:55 PM
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It's the other way around -- it's not about respecting the man, it's about wanting to appear respectable to a man she wants the LTR with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:24 PM
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So go be hot and get casual sex. Pro-tip, don't say whiny shit like "I wish I could be hot and get casual sex!" Not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:21 PM
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Love is pretty much guaranteed to hurt you -- even if the relationship runs perfectly from beginning to end, typically one of you is going to die first. People are surviving being cheated on all the time. It sucks, no doubt, but it's very survivable. Nothing ventured, nothing gained -- you can't have meaningful connections with other humans without putting yourself at risk of SOME kind of hurt. ... but the alternative is a 100% guarantee that you miss out on all the amazing parts of connecting w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:14 AM
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I cant necessarily agree that men should be taking on every decision and steering it always "Not passive" doesn't mean 100% in control and micromanaging everything at all times. It just means that he's setting the goals (bearing my needs and wants in mind) and we work toward them together. I also cant agree that having to do all of that doesn't make men anxious This is why it was important for me to have an "alpha" man who was low in neuroticism. My SO has basically no risk-aversion and doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:58 AM
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A lack of drive, a lack of desire to influence and control, lack of desire to exert his will on external stuff. If he's not steering things and making decisions, she has to, and that seems to make a lot of women anxious (myself included). Note that this isn't the same as his not giving a shit about her wants or needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:56 PM
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I don't really care what other people do with their lives. I do notice as a general trend that passivity in men seems to correlate with anxiety in their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:51 PM
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What's wrong with my amputee emoji? gtfo, you ableist shitlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:47 PM
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I mean, if you're looking for anecdata, I fucked a lot of weird nerds and a disproportionately high number of virgins in my slutty phase because I have a thing for shy nerds. ... and then for whatever reason, the chadliest man I've ever been with decided to keep me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:45 PM
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He has a lot of "alpha" qualities. He seems to naturally inspire deference in other men in the workplace or social groups. He's very aggressive and is definitely reserved as far as doling out like... compassion for things he thinks are dumb. He's pathologically competitive -- to the point that he'll self-destruct in order to win. He's also very protective of me and is a very hands-on and involved dad to our kids, and one of the most loyal people with the most personal integrity that I've ever ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:33 PM
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Some say that the reason for doing this is avoiding slut shaming. Women want “relationship” guys to respect them, and fear that if they have sex right away the man will think she’s a slut and not be interested. Obviously this doesn’t apply to fuckboys, women don’t care about their respect. ime this is it. It's easy to be more uninhibited with someone whose judgments you don't give a fuck about. When you do start to give a fuck, it becomes more important to try to manage that person's perceptions…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:23 PM
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Would you have listened to old married guys talk about marriage and not contributing to degeneracy and been all like, "yes, old married guy, you're right. I'm going to forego a bunch of pussy from a bunch of hot women for the greater good"? No, you wouldn't have... and therein lies the problem. Most men eventually arrive at the same conclusions as you have, but it takes them til their 30s, or later. Nobody's going to convince 20-something boners to stop sowing their wild oats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:43 PM
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Of course they don't. I'm sure they'd like to bang indiscriminately and without consequence, if that's something they could get away with. That being said, a lot of men either don't have that opportunity because the women aren't interested, or they want a family specifically, so they look for wife material right off the bat, or they meet someone early on and see something in her that they don't want to live without. ... but I'm not sure that there's a large population of women on this sub who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:40 PM
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Nah. I've dated anywhere from about 5'6" to 6'9". I abandoned all hope of feeling small and dainty a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:03 AM
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I agree. A lot of the turns of phrase are cringy as fuck, even if the concepts behind them are solid imo/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:24 PM
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Cruel? I wouldn't say so -- this is the danger of covert contracts and mismanaged expectations and it definitely goes both ways (you see dudes salty about being "used" for meals out by women who don't put out). Hopefully people quit going into shit with expectations after experiencing this "devastation" a time or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:23 PM
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Why does anyone care about any fashion thing at all? The women like the way they look and the kind of attention they get when wearing heels. They're "sexy" shoes. Something something makes the butt and calves look shapelier. I personally don't care for them, for partially the reason you've mentioned. At 5'10" (and a bit) I don't feel the need to be taller, and the shoes hurt my feet. I have to say they do look really nice though, on the rare occasion that I do wear them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:18 PM
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I'm too neurotic for that shit. No thx. I'll take the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:39 PM
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AFOG'd :(
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:49 PM
3

The only honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:20 PM
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I do when I'm trying to look "put together". For me it's part of the "uniform" for certain professional or social occasions. I like makeup as a creative outlet too, but don't feel obligated to wear it on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:17 PM
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Am I a dude with male-pattern baldness? Cause if so that wouldn't be so bad. I'd just shave my head and get jacked and swim in poontang. I wouldn't want to be a woman with male-pattern baldness. Periods are inconvenient but they're not too awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:31 AM
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I'm answering under automod because we're not on-paper married... but we live in a place that recognizes common-law unions and file taxes as common-law married so I could still take half his stuff if I were so inclined :D. We've been together 6 years and have 2 bb and are probably doing the on-paper part next summer. 12/10, would absolutely live in sin again. He still makes me laugh harder than anyone else could and we still perv on each other openly. In so far as I believe in soulmates, he is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:27 AM
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"The flu", eh? Is that what they're calling it now? :p
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:25 AM
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Is there some "anything that can be perceived as manipulative isn't allowed" clause for dating that I was unaware of?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:53 PM
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Is all of this embelishing fair game? Yes. Why wouldn't it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:19 PM
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There were a couple, but generally speaking, the passivity and neurosis that I was probably too initially smitten to notice became an issue in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:25 AM
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I've never done this. Whether or not he'd be likely to cheat never even entered my evaluation of potential partners. I've stayed with men I no longer found attractive hoping that I could rekindle the spark, because once I "commit" to someone, I take that seriously, but I've never been like "oh I'm bored and not really into you, but you'll do for now".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:16 PM
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I am totally in favor of men being aware that marriage and kids aren't a risk-free enterprise. What they choose to do with that information is up to them and I think writing off anyone who makes a different choice than you as stupid or uninformed is... well, dumb. But that's just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:16 AM
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I'm done trying to impress upon you that your values and risk tolerance aren't universal. I'm sure you have important MGTOW denigrating-women-on-the-internet things to do also. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:04 AM
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Yeah, that's what I just said. Anyone who doesn't share the particulars of your cost-benefit must be stupid or ignorant. That's your opinion, which I'm not interested in trying to sway. I'm sure the men who do decide to compete think your "taking my ball and going home" attitude is a bitchass one. Opinions are like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:58 AM
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just that some men are stupid enough to think they'll win the lottery. This is why I didn't see any point to explaining, because I FORESAW that it was just going to end in your smugly dismissing any man who wants a partner as stupid and/or ignorant. I'm a fuckin prophet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:42 AM
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That has nothing to do with disputing the MGTOW idea that the deck is stacked against men. It has everything to do with it. If the way the deck is stacked makes it look like too great a risk for the potential reward, go MGTOW. But which way that evaluation tips the scales is going to vary based on how much an individual values the potential reward, and how much risk they're willing to take on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:29 AM
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Different value system and risk tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:23 AM
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I'm not interested in trying to persuade you to be with women. If you want to opt out, good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:18 AM
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idc. If they think the game's rigged to the point of there being no point in playing, that's fine. I disagree with that assessment, but it's not my place or my job to convince them otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:15 AM
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This. Why would you want sex, attention and companionship from a man whose character you didn't care for?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:36 AM
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I hate "grooming". My bf frequently looks like a wild-man and I love it. Well-groomed reads as very feminine to my lizard brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:53 PM
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Me too! High fives!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:52 PM
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Honestly, I think the only one who wasn't sort of a nerdy weirdo is my current SO. He's as close to a "TROO ALFA" as I've ever had. If he left me I'd get more cats and spend my free time working on my hobbies. Alpha widow'd :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:48 PM
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Oh, ok. Yeah I actually agree with you. Sorry for blasting you. lol There's definitely a romantic AND a pragmatic component to relationships that go the distance. In our current culture I feel like an absence of either one will contribute to marital breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:17 PM
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60k. Say it again, hng. I've never been more aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:56 PM
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Unless they just leave after the 2 years, which happens because women are whores and only love as long as their loin-fires are stoked. So women are shit if they stay and shit if they go. Isn't there some other sub for this genre of sour grapes conspiracy-theorizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:52 PM
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Be attractive Don't be unattractive Srsly though, I hope you guys figure out a way to make it work. You seem like a genuine dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:35 PM
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Yeh, I was around that day that she was doling out the advice. Well, all you can do is give it the ol' college try. =/ Resentment's a real bitch to let go of. Speaking from experience, self-imposed CBT helps over time. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:26 PM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:21 PM
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That sucks, my dude. =/ Perhaps she WANTS to not enjoy sex with me because of resentment and lack of attraction. That's possible. Unfortunately getting the wimmins to be introspective about this shit and communicate it to you can be like pulling teeth. You should definitely solicit more of AtlasB's advice -- she's very insightful. ... either way though, my point stands -- the context within which a woman's critiquing a man's sexual performance is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:19 PM
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Women aren't capable of liking people. Only chad and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:16 PM
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And when the lust wears of, 2years give or take they move on to the next Oh, definitely. Women either leave men after 2 years when the lust wears off, or they stick around for the next 35+ years cause... well... it must be because those women are just retarded and forgot to leave or can't read a calendar, because everyone knows that women suck ass and are incapable of love and commitment. ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:07 PM
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Yeah, that'd be more of an STR type concern -- if you're not sure if a guy's going to fly off the handle and slap you in the mouth for making a remark about his performance. Although your response makes me wonder if there wasn't some circumstance that's spurred your asking the question. If you're having a.. uh... discussion with your wife and you say "the sex is suffering cause u fat as shit" and she comes back with "yeah well your dick is small and you suck in bed", that's not like... a real cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:02 PM
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Good for you. The number of women who don't experience negative emotions is pretty small. ... and for the record, I'm entirely functional on an adult level, thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:37 PM
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Yeah, I definitely needed a "rock". I seem to rise to the level of neurosis of my partner -- so despite being really intensely drawn to anxious, shy and depressed men that I could "save", it was never going to work with them in the long term. YMMV, obv.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:13 PM
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My question is: why? Is it just to preserve male ego? Yes. Women make a big show of being bad bitches who don't take no shit, but don't believe the hype. Most of them actually recognize that men are fellow humans that they don't actually want to crush -- particularly if they like that man enough to fuck him. There may also be an element of fear too -- some men don't take rejection or criticism very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:08 PM
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I don't remember there being a single moment that I felt I was in love with him... it was a big mass of infatuation and lust and all that shit, initially. I DO remember the moment it kind of dawned on me that this was a good one that I wanted to keep. His mom's prone to meltdowns, and she was having one while he and I were visiting one time early in the relationship, and I watched him strike this amazing balance in dealing with her between being compassionate and calling her on her shit. I'd spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:44 PM
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I'd be for paternity tests for every birth as a general rule so men COULD be sure (well... as sure as they reasonably can be -- even paternity tests have a margin of error) I'd give my SO the test but I'd probably be pretty hurt that he was suspicious enough about my potentially having cheated to ask for the test in the first place. Paternity testing is not really the norm as it stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:06 AM
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Something to do with starch masks I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:04 AM
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I second that motion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:26 PM
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Neg. My kids are mine, but this is a gut instinct rather than something that I've unpacked logically at great length. It'd kill me to know that I had a baby out there that I couldn't be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 11:35 PM
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Signaling interest or availability or soliciting sexual/romantic attention from other people, while you're attached, is disrespectful. I'm not a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 11:33 PM
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Alot of men don't have that luxury. Oooh, one of those hidden agenda posts! Looks like an invitation to discuss, but is actually bait so incels can post "BUT MEN DON'T GET TO HAVE SEX" on the responses. Sneaky, sneaky!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 11:19 PM
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No, that's your read on what I said, and you're literally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:27 AM
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How did you know?! I love a good strawman! You really shouldn't have!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:01 AM
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"I'm a good feminist who won't judge women for their sexual interests so they should communicate them with me so I don't get #metoo'd. How do I make women communicate clearly?" was my read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 06:28 PM
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I'm just here for the bobs and vagene
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 02:24 PM
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Oh right, I forgot that this is Redditland where peer-reviewed studies reveal absolute, unvarnished truth and that peoples' actual experiences in reality are all lies. Whew, thanks for reminding me. It's a good thing I didn't say something like "this one guy's experience represents the singular possibility to which everyone else's experiences will invariably adhere"! That could've been embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:42 PM
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Do you cut them off? Do you go cold? This. I'd prefer not to have to be "mean" but if my subtle hint-dropping hasn't worked, I feel like it's more or less necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 12:49 PM
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lol, this is basically our life now. I like being boring. Saving money is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 12:47 PM
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Agreed. Charm and presence are such huge components of attraction for women. ime, the right sort of "swagger" can make a man who basically didn't even register on initial visual inspection become super-attractive. Just anecdata, but I have a (male) buddy who's 5'3". The difference between his results with Tinder and approaching in person are really stark. On Tinder, women read 5'3" and nope out immediately. In person, he gets the chance to win them over with charm and humor (which he has in spad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 12:46 PM
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https://www.thisamericanlife.org/220/testosterone :D In particular, act 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 10:27 PM
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I don't think it's possible. Read any FtM tranny's account of getting on T. The spontaneous sex drive in women isn't even in the same league as the male one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 08:58 PM
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Nah. Integrity's a big thing for me, both mine and his. One time when I was 18 I went on a few dates with a dude and then got an angry email about a homewrecking little whore I was from his wife whom I didn't know existed, but that was about the closest I ever got.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:18 AM
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Expectations. If you expect anything more than the use of a dick for an evening, you may feel disappointed when he doesn't call back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:18 PM
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Yeah, the distinction I was trying to make was what "alpha" means depends on the social matrix we're looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:53 PM
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Just because you prefer more masculine women doesn't mean that those women aren't masculine. And it's possible that you'll MEET "better" men by competing aggressively in those particular hierarchies (I'm thinking like... professional ones), but a large number of those men are looking for complementary women, rather than those with the same qualities as themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 01:51 PM
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I feel like you've described women who "man" more effectively than most -- highly dominant, low in agreeableness, low in neuroticism. They may incorporate themselves a little better than most women in some male social matrices, but not so much in the female one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 12:39 PM
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Stereotypical displays of "romance" make me really uncomfortable. An ex did the whole rose petals on the bed song and dance which I guess was a nice effort but I was all "what a waste of money and a mess". He brags about me to his coworkers. I like that a lot. I'm super cagey about phone calls so he'll make calls to service providers or answer my phone if I don't recognize the number. He'll get up with the kids if I'm really exhausted, even though he works the physically harder job. He talks me …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 07:27 PM
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I didn't think that I needed to clarify that I wasn't in any way committed to anybody when the fucking whomever I wanted was taking place, but apparently I do. As soon as I was "seeing" someone, I wanted to spend all my time with them and I didn't have any time or inclination to fuck anybody else. If I was putting someone off to fuck other dudes, I'd fully expect him to lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:18 PM
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I wish I had more upvotes to give. rofl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:32 PM
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Hellz no. I like being female. I wish I could bench press more and didn't have to have a menstrual cycle, but apart from that, 10/10 would woman again. I don't think people expect as much from women, so it's easier to be Rly Impressive, just in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:24 PM
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Why, do you think only men are capable of having sex without emotional entanglement? People who attribute special mystical meaning to sex probably shouldn't partner with people who just wanna bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 12:08 PM
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Yeah. I slept with anyone I felt like sleeping with, whenever the urge struck. I'm sure some dudes elected not to go out again cause they felt like I was a big sloot, but that kinda betrays a fundamental difference in values around sex that'd be a liability in long term compatibility anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 07:39 PM
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I don't, personally... but one of my married-couple friends met at the gym, so YMMV. If you can read non-verbal cues with reasonable accuracy I feel like it could be a good place to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:31 PM
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It's sort of a 3-tier thing for me: 1 - below minimum looks threshold, not interested in banging under any circumstance 2 - neither wow nor a hard no. Whether I end up attracted to these guys comes down to their wit/charm/presence 3 - guys who turn my head based on looks only. I'll probably actively flirt with them or drop IOIs (insofar as my socially retarded self is able). They can still get themselves downgraded to a no if their personality is especially odious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 03:57 PM
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My money's on the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 03:53 PM
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Yes! I forgot those, my b.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:39 PM
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They don’t get hung up on one girl ... yeah but they're going to try to fuck her. lol. And if he's high value, chances are she's going to want to fuck him. This has disaster written all over it. ETA: Couple friends are the way to go -- you and your SO hang out with other couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:00 PM
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I think he just forgot where he is in the time-space continuum. This advice for women has been out there basically forever. It's not that women are unaware that this is what men want, it's that they're deliberately NOT doing the shit men want because they're all "I DON'T HAVE TO LIVE TO PLEASE MEN". I don't know why anyone's giving him any attention. It was an obvious effort to get a reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 11:42 PM
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Yeah, that myth that women want to get railed in 18 different positions for 45 minutes at a time needs to be taken out back and shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 10:02 PM
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This is pure fantastical delusion. Your characterization of men as noble, gentle beasts driven to madness only by their desire for pussy is so far removed from reality that I don't even know where to begin. Being a woman you likely have little to no idea what it means to place yourself in physical jeopardy, to risk your life in physical altercation. Fuck off with your condescension. The average man now never sees life-threatening "combat" or anything like it. As a man who has done so (and many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:34 PM
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But why would women be attracted to power if not for protection? Which begs the question... protection from what? Ghengis Khan is arguably one of the most reproductively successful men in history. His DNA can be traced in 1 in 200 men living today. Do you think he waited to be "selected" by women so he could respectfully accept their breeding requests? ... or did he roll in with his armies, murder all the sons and husbands, and take the women as war trophies with zero regard for what they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 06:21 AM
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Have you considered that the female preference for big, strong and aggressive is driven by a desire for protection for she and her offspring from the shitty violent rapeyness of male nature? So maybe WE are what YOU make us. ... or maybe this whole thought exercise is bullshit and the reality of the situation is more nuanced than either of these scenarios make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 03:00 AM
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In terms of dating, it sucked to realize that there was no compensating for being less attractive with personality-based virtues. If you don't meet a man's minimum threshold for hotness, he isn't going to give a shit if you're the greatest, smartest, funniest, most giving woman in the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:04 PM
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There's a difference between being anti-man and acknowledging that parts of male nature are bad for women's imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:58 PM
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Setting aside that I don't even really know what "misogyny" means anymore because it's been applied equally to everything from Elliott Rodgers to pricier women's hair products (versus men's)... Of course it's understandable. If you perceive a group as having victimized or attacked you, I think it's probably pretty normal to start to resent or hate them. I think the more important question is does it achieve anything? Ultimately, women are individuals, and it doesn't make a ton of sense to hate o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 04:10 PM
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Agreed -- I've seen this evolution with most of my female friends too. We were all about the hairless prettyboys when we were in high school. Now that we're well into our 30s, it's more rugged-looking dudes who are popular. ... although one of my 30-something female cousins recently got called out on the Facebooks for having an entire pinterest page full of pictures of Jon Snow despite having never watched GoT, so YMMV, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 04:28 PM
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They don't care about dating pretty boys who are kind and caring. They are mainly interested in 6 ft+ men with broad shoulders and hyper masculine faces. I see you, incel post masquerading as something else. ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 04:21 PM
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1) I have one close male friend (though he recently moved away so we don't get to see him anymore) and maybe... 4 female friends that I see on a regular basis? Most of my socializing happens with extended family these days. 2) Yeah, they're more than I can handle socially, most of the time. lol. They're all phenomenal people, it's just that my time is limited at the moment. 3) Yeah. Most of my grad school friends were male and ~5 years younger than I was. I'm still happy to see they're doing wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 03:57 AM
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Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 03:39 AM
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Mahbuba As in "mahbuba cost 3.5 mil, foo" :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 03:32 AM
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Only Chad. No man without a horsedick and a luxury car and sub-10% bodyfat has ever seen vagina. It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 11:10 PM
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p much. Gender doesn't make a difference to me. If you're someone I respect or love, your opinion matters. If you aren't, meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:16 PM
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lol, I pissed off my one friend for months there... she's big into Instagram and she'd be all "did you see what I sent you on Instagram?" and I legit didn't even know where on my phone the shortcut lived -- I could only ever be bothered to open it when I got a notification. It's all too much work. Devices are for AVOIDING socialization, dammit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:04 PM
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Yes and no. More freedom (to work, achieve financial independence) came with a new set of pressures and responsibilities. Everything is this way-- it's all a trade of one thing for something else. I'd say the way things are going, feminism's making it a pretty cushy time to be a woman. We have a lot of freedom and people actively fighting to protect us from the consequences of the choices we make with our freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 04:32 AM
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Not even like... inappropriate necessarily, but just unrelatable. Like, I'm only in my mid-30s and I already have trouble keeping up with the billion forms of social media and shit that younger people are probably immersed in all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 12:39 AM
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imo it's more of a "norms and values" thing. Evolution of society tends to produce a shift in what's "normal" in terms of values. It's difficult to have an LTR with someone whose "normal" and values are substantially different from your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:33 PM
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It's the signal for "I'm edgy and sexy". It gets the women attention from men and makes them feel edgy and sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:29 PM
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Who cares? I'd consider that the man probably values looks and youth over "compatibility", but that hardly makes him abnormal. I wouldn't get involved in any stranger's marriage. None of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:38 AM
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Can we dispense with this broken-ass retarded logic whereby if a person isn't 100% elated to be a parent at all times, they must be lying about how fulfilling they find it overall? Lots of fulfilling, compelling shit is hard sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:55 PM
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I avoid going outside. That's not really to avoid men tho, I guess. It's mostly to avoid people in general :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 04:40 AM
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I don't bother. I have at times asked assorted men in my life if they want to talk about stuff but they never do, so there's really no point. I ask SO if he's ok, if he says yes, I don't pry. He's not "stoic", perse, but most of his emotions seem to come out as anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 05:19 PM
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Let's agree - cats are a breeze to live with XD. Mine barf on the bed and piss in the laundry. While my SO has some habits that I find irritating at times, he's never done either of those. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:24 PM
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Probably -- that's why AtlasB keeps telling y'all to go to bars, lol. I personally haven't been to a bar in like 15 years either -- not really my scene, but there was definitely a lot of hooking up going down and I can't imagine much has changed since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:01 PM
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The bar's a meat market. If I'm there, I'm dressed up and looking to be chatted up. If I'm in the veg aisle, you'd better be the most charming fucker I've ever met, otherwise leave me alone to do my shopping. Totally different mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:56 AM
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Every time I've been cold-approached it was by a dude I wasn't attracted to, or I was already in a relationship, so it's never resulted in a date. It seems a lot like online dating -- you have a split second to impress her with your looks, or like 10 seconds to make an impression with your wit or charm otherwise you're boned. That being said, does it really cost you anything to try? So long as you're not crushed by rejection, why not give it a go?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 09:21 PM
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Pretty much. ITT: a lot of denial that men are subject to something so shallow as ego, because men are noble and perfectly logical at all times. Pft, ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:42 PM
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I mean... I think "attraction" is the wrong word. I do think shared interests enhance compatibility in the long-term, while they won't necessarily create attraction where there wasn't any previously. I have bonded with men over the years over shared interests, but without that spark of attraction, they ended up being friends rather than boyfriends. The only time I ever got sour grapes about it was when I was attracted to them but they weren't attracted to me. I think I figured out that common in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:39 PM
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I like the part about what a gentleman he was. A+ comedy gold. Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 08:12 PM
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Petition to change the adage "be attractive; don't be unattractive" to "be non-neurotic; don't be neurotic".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:30 PM
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A man who is sexting instagram hoores while his girlfriend is pregnant with his child has revealed himself to be not quite a paragon of sensitivity? I am shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 04:57 PM
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fwiw I wasn't either. Kids were always a "someday" abstraction until we got surprise-pregnant. She was so awesome and we enjoyed her so much that we had another on-purpose baby, and I can't imagine life without them. You might surprise yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:24 PM
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This is the correct answer. Just close all that shit. Keeps anything from falling in accidentally, limits the spread of droplets, looks tidier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:18 PM
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Ultimately the only one who suffers if I fall in is me, so I'd say the bulk of the responsibility for avoiding that falls on my shoulders. It's nice if people put the seat down as a matter of courtesy, but that's not something the world owes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:17 PM
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"If you have my particular priorities and values, childfree is the way to go!" Sure, fine... except that most people don't, and many people find their kids a greater source of joy and fulfillment than the stuff you can buy with all your disposable income or travel, and find that time spent with your partner and kids is also awesome. Do whatever you want, why would anyone want to cyv?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:14 PM
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How intolerable are the other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 05:29 PM
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Yeah I'm another annoying centrist, I guess (insofar as I give a fuck about politics, which I generally don't). I'm for liberty with a sprinkling of harm-reduction thrown in there to minimize unnecessary suffering. Ideologically I'd say that I'm libertarian but I'm also pessimistic enough that I think people suck too much to really make that ideology a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:11 PM
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This is why I'll never believe the ol' "WOMEN ARE AS LOOKS-FOCUSED AS MEN!!!". Ever. No matter how many scientific studies are posted. It's not that women are totally indifferent to looks, it's just that they're much more open to charm, which imo is a combination of presence, humor and confidence. It's also obvious that he's at ease with women, which is the less-edgelord concept at the heart of the "take the pussy off the pedestal" adage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:28 PM
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ITT: did someone order some bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:50 PM
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Note that the "my dick can tolerate" stipulation precludes people I find ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:43 PM
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This, realistically. Find someone my dick could tolerate who knew I was out of her league and would serve me accordingly. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:07 PM
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He's making jokes about how the male social matrix works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:09 PM
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My (rambly) two cents: I think it's outside of the scope of either of those. When you present those two options, you ignore the precondition that "the mainstream" is starting with. With the exception of the (increasingly less) fringe manosphere, the narrative goes that women are oppressed, and so criticism of them feels like punching down. We give a lot of lip service to "WOMEN ARE ADULTS" but our society doesn't treat them that way. It's the same mentality that leads us to go "yes, that's a rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:10 PM
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I mean, it entirely depends on the attitude of the "superior" person toward you. You want someone who's invested in your growth and mutual success, rather than someone who's going to lord their superiority over you and chafe at all your insecurities. Hopefully you can find the former kind of relationship! Only one person at a time can be the "best" at anything... everyone else has to cope with the reality of being "inferior". It might help to think of it that way -- "inferior" is more or less th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:00 PM
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lol, show us your feelings! Unless they're anger. Those feelings are wrong, and so must be socially conditioned out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:40 PM
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Why is having a superior male partner not something that interests you? Surely you can accept that there are other humans out there who are your superiors, that you admire... why not get one of those as a spouse? "Inferior" doesn't mean "bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:38 PM
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I'm not sure if you're trolling or if all of this saltiness is sincere, but hey. Why do you assume he has a choice in what kinds of women he attracts? What makes you think he attracts any significant amount of women in the first place? The default online dating experience for men is a fucking ghost town. Then you make improvements from there. Ok OP, if you want to ENCOURAGE gold-diggers to use you for dinners (more than they would be by default, anyway), post your job and expected salary. If tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:06 AM
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I HATE crying. Fuck. It's like... impossible not to sometimes. I remember a particularly frustrating meeting with my thesis supervisor (he was a very frustrating human) where I actually chewed the inside of my cheek bloody trying to distract myself enough to not cry. lol. Stupid fucking female hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:33 PM
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Yes, absolutely. For instance, when I worked in a male-dominated trade, the women on the crew often got the physically easier jobs. The company that I work at is really awesome about recognizing that I am mom first and employee second (which is why they will have my forever-loyalty) -- fathers who work in similar roles to mine don't have nearly as much leeway. That being said, in case a) the men often made more money and in case b), the leeway comes with less money and that running cultural assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:30 PM
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Don't put your job up front -- flashing around what kind of money you make is only going to attract women you don't want. It really depends on what kind of woman you're looking for tho. If you're looking for sociable feminine hotties, omit any mention of computering entirely -- it's not a "sexy" or masculine pursuit. If you're looking to omit to that small niche of similarly-interested nerdy broads (which is a much smaller pool of women, be warned), go ahead and mention it as one of your interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:22 PM
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Definitely -- I always worry about raising kids that I don't like and I think my SO's on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:18 PM
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This. Someone who has enough spine to retain her respect while taking care of her when she needs it. Someone like her dad!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:07 PM
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My dad and my bf are similar in their sense of humor, work ethic and sense of integrity. My bf is definitely more aggressive and more overtly masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:30 PM
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Seriously. I wish we could quit being disingenuous about this. Good faith effort to meet his needs (read: sexual) is really all most men are looking for. It's a whole lot less shocking and outrageous than this "so you're saying that you'd leave your wife for not letting you fist her anally while she's in active labor" bullshit it always seems to get mischaracterized as.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:01 AM
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This, as far as I'm concerned. I'm also curious as to wtf this means: women do not love men as men want to be loved. Like... how do men want to be loved? Maternal nurturing and sexual attraction are pretty much mutually exclusive ime -- maybe that's what they mean? They want mommy lurv and hot monkey sex from the same woman at the same time? That I can concede that I personally am incapable of (although I can offer both to the same person, just at different times). Anyway... this always struck m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 03:56 AM
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Because male love is unconditional REAL love. Am I doing this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:02 PM
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This. Is it dumb and hypocritical? Yeah, probably. Is someone going to intervene? Pft, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:54 PM
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Your bad-faith point that requires us to believe that you don't recognize that the "line of social normalcy" lies somewhere between a handful of casual partners in college and getting gangbanged by horsedicks on camera? Is your "point" that debate with you is pointless because you're going to move the goalposts and be deliberately obtuse? Cause that's the one I'm receiving...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:29 PM
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"Escorts" are already available -- the men who just want some ass from a hotter woman than they'd be able to attract "naturally" can (and are) already see(ing) those. My SO has worked with a number of these guys over the years (we are also Canadian). Increasing the availability of sex for sale doesn't solve the problem of men wanting to connect with a woman they find attractive in the long-term, emotionally AND sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:22 PM
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It's not really even about male attention, specifically. But no, "the wall" isn't going to affect all women equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:37 AM
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Eeeeyup, time and gravity come for us all. It's more pronounced in women, imo, because they are "sex objects" whereas men have the curse/opportunity to be "success objects".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:19 PM
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I think it's a bad idea given that women are very rarely direct about what they want and tend to freeze or shut down under stress... ... but then the power of dickful thinking in a dude who's going for third base is also difficult to overcome. It's like a perfect storm of shit for awkward blurred-line sexual encounters -- women are too afraid to speak up and boners compromise men's judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:15 PM
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That isn't what the wall is. Go find articles BY WOMEN who've turned 40 and are suddenly totally invisible where people were pleasant and polite and acknowledged their existence on the regular, 10 years ago. Women can still find dick well into their 60s and beyond, I'm sure. Hitting the wall is that transition to becoming generally invisible to everyone and realizing how much more "common courtesy" you got when you were young and cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:40 PM
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My bf's version of this is like... Me: (very earnestly, usually interjecting out of concern for his physical or financial wellbeing) No! You can't do that because of x, y and z! Him: I love you! (as he does the thing that I have advised against for mostly-valid reasons, no matter how self-destructive it is for him) I've mostly tried to stop telling him to do/not do anything, because he does precisely the opposite just to remind me that I'm not the boss of him. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:31 PM
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The women who are answering "virgin" are lying. ETA: I was snarking on the comment above because the "WOMEN WILL ONLY EVER FUCK CHAD" trope is dumb and tired. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 05:05 PM
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I blame penises. Penises convince men to do all sorts of stupid shit. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 06:03 AM
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Yep. I've been sperging over MBTI for years and probably have taken tests like at least 20 times. I'd say the results are INTJ about 90% of the time, and the other 10% I get INTP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 11:11 PM
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Because He of the Lofty IQ says so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 11:09 PM
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It's the online gaming edition of Cap'n Save-a-ho. They think these women are going to get all starry-eyed at them for "saving" her. It's basically a strip club with fewer titties, but also no requirement that one go outside one's mom's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 10:54 PM
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Congratulations!! Hope you're having a smooth ride so far!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:47 PM
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My SO and I are kind of in this situation. We've lived together 6 years and have 2 kids. We're both kind of meh about marriage. I'd like to get married but it's not the hill I'm prepared to die on. He's not really averse to marriage, but obviously isn't in any rush to put a ring on it either, so to speak. We live in a place that recognizes common-law unions so we file our taxes as married and stuff, anyway. ETA: and we're named as each others' beneficiaries in our wills and junk. So we're basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:45 PM
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That's fine -- you don't have to. But if a person's other qualities are such that you're willing to go through the discomfort of having to check them when they get out of line, I don't see why that's a less valid choice. Setting boundaries with your spouse isn't "abusive", it's what keeps the relationship running smoothly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:43 PM
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Grow a pair of balls and own your decisions It's in there. Implied, but still. If your prospective spouse is doing shit that you find unacceptable, you check her, even if that upsets her. If you're afraid of using the stick sometimes to get the behavior you want, she's going to fuck your shit up and you have only yourself to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 07:06 PM
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Every animal is prone to having its instinctive drives manipulated and/or exploited. The multi-billion dollar marketing industry is in pursuit of precisely that -- getting people to buy stuff through manipulation of emotions and biases. Of course while all women have those basic instincts and drives, their influence is going to occur on a spectrum (some women will be more strongly influenced than others), and humans are capable of being self-aware, which also complicates things on an individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:37 PM
1

Never underestimate a vapid singer's ability to spout bullshit about men after getting back with a guy who beat her black and blue and try to pass it off as wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:22 PM
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I'd like to be independently wealthy so I can pursue all of my dumb hobbies and interests without having to worry about trying to market them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:11 PM
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idk, I think for me the closest thing was watching a close friend of mine that I regard as a really good and decent human get totally emotionally annihilated by his cunt of an ex-wife. He's jaded and hardened now in a way that he wasn't before. It was kind of sad for me to see her destroy that open, trusting part of him that was willing to give women the benefit of the doubt. This new state of mind will probably serve HIM better, but it was kind of sad to see that "innocence" destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:10 PM
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That was an adorable flight of fancy. Very creative. Do you write a lot of fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:02 PM
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Agreed. Apart from life-threatening stuff, I won't be shielding my kids from the consequences of their actions. Hopefully this leads them to grow into adults who appreciate that every action they take will have consequences that they have to live with, and they make the choices that allow them to maximize their happiness and fulfillment, whatever that looks like for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:59 PM
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Yeah, this. The actual N count doesn't make any difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:55 PM
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What is your overall feeling toward men with high n-count? I don't really care. Would you prefer a man with a high n-count over a low one? Or vice versa Doesn't even make my top 20 list for "qualities that I care about in a partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:55 PM
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Do you think this is more morally acceptable than when high-flying men ditch their wives? No, but I recognize that my moralizing about other peoples' choices is meaningless. Should these men get spousal support? Yes. What do you think of women who ditch their husbands who are staying at home with the kids? I hope everyone learns from it. Women need to be with a man they admire for the relationship to work. Most women (particularly high-flying career women) are probably not going to attribute a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:53 PM
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Yes. Divorce now. Sex is sacred -- everything else in a marriage is subject to feeling like a compromise or a sacrifice on occasion, but not sex. A willingness to have duty sex with your spouse when you're not in the mood is evidence that you are unfit for marriage. (heavy sarcasm, in case it's not evident!)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 09:42 PM
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People are allowed to reject sex without worrying for their marriages. Presumably, the marriages are deeper than that, no? Spoken like someone without a penis. If you want monogamy, you meet your partner's sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 09:34 PM
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We're pretty much the same, despite no twins. Work ethic is something at the core of each of our personal identities, so neither of us considers just... shitting the bed cause life is hard to be an option. So we both work at it, and we both appreciate the other's efforts (and give each other the benefit of the doubt when we inevitably DO fuck up from time to time). I think it's a mindset thing more than a specific strategy. ... oh, and we both hate spoiled brat kids, so we don't let ours get awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 04:45 PM
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EVERY WEEK IS SLUT WEEK. SLUTS SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:24 PM
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Pretty much this. Try to do that shit off camera though, jebus.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:22 PM
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I mean... ideally you don't marry and reproduce with this BPD psychopath, but since that ship has sailed... It's a bad idea to hit a woman, even if she deserves it, or if she did the instigating. I doubt this is the first time she's thrown shit at him or assaulted him. I'd be recording her tantrums with my phone and building a case to gtfo that marriage with the video evidence of her insanity ready for financial damage control. The real victims here are these kids, though -- they didn't ask to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 04:16 PM
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I'd be upset if he gave me a "cheat pass". I'd be like "why don't you love me anymore?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:32 PM
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Pegging, cause it was a big gross turn-off for me. If my SO really really wanted it, I'd give my blessing for him to go do it with a professional. Fortunately he doesn't want anyone near his butt ever, so yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:54 PM
2

I remember the good ol' days when all penises were man-penises. lulz
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 04:24 PM
3

Bahaha. I wish I had more than one upvote for this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:01 PM
2

PLOTTING YOUR DEMISE... sensually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 04:09 PM
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I know... like half the women were making "do me now" eyes. Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:12 PM
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33/36... which is kinda funny because I consider myself relatively socially retarded. I think I recognize emotions in others pretty intuitively, I just don't know how to engage those emotions in a non-spergy way. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:11 PM
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I was going to post this analogy. All guns could be loaded... assuming that they all are loaded means that you'll be unnecessarily cautious and maybe waste some time and energy when you're wrong. If you DON'T assume all guns are loaded and you're wrong, you leave yourself open to some pretty catastrophic shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:27 PM
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That's the point where he finds MRP and goes "WHY WONT THIS BITCH SUCK MY DICK ANYMORE? WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:01 PM
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I don't think anyone ever feels ready for kids. Our first was a "surprise". No regrets though -- you make it work. We have 2 of them now and they're super awesome little critters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:36 PM
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I mean... n=1, but sex for us pretty much tapered to nothing after our first kid, and then by the time she was about 14 months old, we were back at it at least once a day for a solid 6 weeks... ... which got me pregnant the second time. Whoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:16 PM
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We do not. You take that back!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:59 PM
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I'm in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 05:06 PM
3

Let's form a posse!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 09:23 PM
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Not a dude... but this is so lovely <3 I've observed this with my SO. He treats me like I'm some radiant goddess of beauty, meanwhile I'm basically invisible to anybody else on the street, haha. I should appreciate that more...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 05:53 PM
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... yeah, and those women should get nexted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:55 PM
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Do whatever you want, but there's a good chance your girlfriend would consider flirting openly with other girls a dealbreaker, much less fucking them. Enjoy the relationship while it's new and she's not shit-testing you. Save your "red pill tactics" for when she's being unreasonable with you. Just keep being attractive -- you won't need to "game" women. They'll come to you and keep your SO aware that you have other options without you having to do anything shitbaggy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:53 PM
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I mean... idk. They matter, but they're not the be-all, end-all. I was pissed off once or twice because I got "friend-zoned" by certain dudes because I didn't meet their base-level attractiveness standards. That sucked, but I certainly never lacked for male attention or companionship when I wanted it. I lost some weight but still remained well within the realm of thiccness. lol. I found enough success! I had a number of flings and shorter-term relationships with neat men before meeting my curren…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:44 PM
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I find maybe 85% up-front are like... physically acceptable. Dudes that I jive with on a personality-level? Probably about a 50%ish. Dudes from that subset who also find me physically attractive and aren't put off by my manbrain and all of the cussing and gross humor and dominance-maneuvering that that entails? Mmm... I should probably be dying alone, but I lucked out and found my "one" despite all my previous insistence that "the one" doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:20 PM
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I found quiet, kinda-shy guys very compelling. Unfortunately I would end up AMOGing on them and losing attraction. So, it was an advantage in terms of initial attraction, but in the long-term, I ended up wearing the pants, which as it turns out isn't something I really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:15 PM
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Agreed. He breaks hearts left and right...! Until he meets that one special woman that makes him want to throw all the rest of his hoes away and treat her nice and buy her things. I very much doubt the realities of married-with-kids-life featuring such hits as, "stripping the baby's bed at 3 AM because it's managed to shit all over the sheets" and "the flu that makes you explode from both ends in a one-bathroom home" factor into the fantasy at all. ... along that same vein, I doubt most women co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:39 PM
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Yes, truefemcels is an excellent representation of the average woman's thought patterns. ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 12:54 PM
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Oh, for sure. I'd argue that while it'd be hard to delineate a clear boundary, there's definitely a point at which self-serving, manipulative assholery isn't "accepted". ... but yeah, that's another dimension that I didn't think about. Some people are less bound by an internal set of ethics and more kept in line by fear of social ostracism. Ultimately one or both of those factors keep people well-enough socialized that society doesn't totally explode. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:02 AM
1

I agree with the caveat that individual values and morality can override the system if the individual holds those values in sufficiently high regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:41 PM
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I think dudes should go for it! But...I personally always found it awkward as fuck because I need like... some time to prepare myself for flirty banter. Being approached at the grocery store or a bus stop was a recipe for anxiety and awkwardness for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 04:40 PM
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This. I give off a really bro-y vibe in person. Making the "this is A Date" official ahead of time seemed to help alleviate the difficulties my garbage social skills created. I didn't have to navigate that "acquaintances to potential romance" transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 04:38 PM
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Get out of here with your concrete evidence of male thirst! ... srsly though. Men -could- be choosy about who they fuck, but on average, they really aren't. They'll pork anything moving slow enough, so long as she's not asking for anything more than dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:37 PM
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He is! I enjoy him a lot <3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:53 PM
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He's basically "toxic masculinity" walking. Super-competitive, insensitive, not readily giving of comfort. That's kind of naturally put him at odds with a lot of women. lol He does stuff like prop his balls on my head while I'm trying to work, suction cup my face with his foreskin... real gallant shit. I think it's funny, but I dunno how many women would actually take kindly to that sort of schtick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:48 PM
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Like... 2 years? Maybe more? I was with my ex at the time and he was a giant walking turnoff. There wasn't a ton of pressure from his end about it either. I mostly think he's (still) a closet case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:28 PM
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I feed his woman-hate and cultivate a Not Like Other Girls image.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:12 PM
2

SCIENCE
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:10 PM
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30s/F/introverted as a mf. I'd rather be alone than get pity cuddles from some person I don't want/who doesn't want me. Mind you, I don't really enjoy physical contact from anyone beyond my SO or my kids, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:09 PM
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TRP maligns the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:44 AM
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I aim to please! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:00 PM
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The world is so difficult for men. Feminism is evil. Women are dried up at 30. Yup, that about covers the extent and the depth of my thoughts on all matters pertaining to intersexual dynamics. We get it. Red pillers are all regressive, woman-hating neckbeards. Why bother asking if you're only interested in attempting to browbeat people with your dumbfuck strawman? Why not stay in pretty much literally every other subreddit that isn't for discussing intersexual dynamics at all? Is it just so you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:45 PM
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I was naturally pretty suspicious of men I thought were way out of my league. It took my current bf awhile to warm me up because I didn't think there was any possible way a man that good looking could actually be into me. Sometimes the strat worked, sometimes it didn't. After the initial few stings of being rejected by someone with whom I thought I had good chemistry, I just kinda came to accept it as the price of admission to the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 09:45 PM
1

Pushing 5'11" but with short-ass legs and a long torso. When I was slimmer those amazon fetishist dudes loved me -- now I'm more fat than muscular. :( Waist-length curly brown hair, grey/army green eyes. I'm in my 30s but still get IDed to drink (fuck the sun). My mother affectionately described my complexion as "glow in the dark".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:02 AM
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99.9% of men are incel *disclaimer: an incel is a man who has never had the experience of waking up to find VS models spontaneously slobbing his knob without any prior interaction involuntarily not getting head from models... inngehefrmos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 10:28 PM
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I like them if they're solicited. ... and yeah, they're generally only ever solicited by a woman who's into the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 06:57 PM
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If there were no government help, the loser women would be trying to lock down a loser husband to subsidize their loser lifestyles. The further they all stay away from the rest of society, the better, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 06:53 PM
4

Match made in heaven. Hopefully they don't breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 04:27 PM
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These women are losers. The men are losers too. ¯\(ツ)/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 12:55 PM
1

grinding. Yes, I'd say dry-humping to music is pretty sexual. Women like to cocktease for attention -- giving you a boner and then flitting away gives them a sense of power. In other news, water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 10:25 PM
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Probably about 7 years ago now? I was 26, he was 22, we met on Starcraft 2. We've been living together 5 years and have 2 bebe now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:57 PM
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Reality is rarely satisfying. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:36 PM
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Yes and no? He compromised on some stuff, and got more than he was hoping for in other areas... just like any person would when they decide to take another imperfect human as a lifelong partner. He's still here, so I guess the deal he got was good enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:29 PM
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Except when they don't, and then their husbands end up on the frontpage of r/relationships all like "my wife of 5 years got gangbanged in college. I am repulsed. What do?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 03:15 PM
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I never went out with dudes that I knew upfront were a hard no for LTR-ing... so I never really got into a position to have sex with a guy that I was like "definitely no" for a longer-term thing. I banged the dude when I felt like banging him -- usually that was the first date. I'm kind of socially tone-deaf though, so I probably committed a bunch of faux-pas, and my MO should probably not be considered typical. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 03:13 PM
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I'm taking my mini-beasts out for candy. Only the elder one is old enough to actually consume said candy. They will both be strawberries. I expect it will be intolerably adorable. :D I'm not dressing up -- too much money and I am a cheap motherfucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 06:12 PM
1

You're officially hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:52 PM
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Ok, this is my last effort, srsly. "I wish to put my penis in this hole. That this hole is attached to a human woman with her own autonomous thoughts and desires (one of which is not having my penis in her) is irrelevant to me. She is a thing for me to use at my discretion."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:42 PM
2

You have the reading comprehension level of a bag full of sloppy turds. I explained above already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:38 PM
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It means that the man regards his "right" to have sex with the woman as being above her "right" to bodily autonomy. She's not a person with feelings and desires, she's a hole to put a weiner in. It's dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:31 PM
1

I wish dudes would stop trying to infer what women are thinking based on female behavior. They're pretty much always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:26 PM
1

I wonder if r/foreignforumforinsanity would get quarantined...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:26 PM
2

... this doesn't sound like a crazy-person rant at all. Women feel "worthless" and "used" because rapists completely discount and ignore their humanity in order to have some sex, not because they're like "DARN THOSE CRAFTY PENISES, THEY HAVE CIRCUMVENTED MY GET THINGS FOR PUSSY PLOT."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:20 PM
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I think the trauma comes more from the feeling of powerlessness than it does from the sex part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 04:55 PM
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I have no issue with the philosophy, but go read comments on MGTOW Youtube videos and tell me with a straight face that there aren't a vocal proportion of that population who do actually hate women, and are bitter and miserable. If you think the game sucks, not playing is a valid response... just don't sit there and make out like MGTOWs who hate women and spend all their time bitching about what whores they are don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:59 PM
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I have no issue with the philosophy, but go read comments on MGTOW Youtube videos and tell me with a straight face that there aren't a vocal proportion of that population who do actually hate women, and are bitter and miserable. If you think the game sucks, not playing is a valid response... just don't sit there and make out like MGTOWs who hate women and spend all their time bitching about what whores they are don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:59 PM
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He knows about it. He reads TRP sometimes... I'm not sure if he's been banned, actually, but he finds most of the posts there viscerally disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:52 PM
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M'kay, I'm going to pretend that this response isn't dripping in condescension. The overwhelming response from women here should indicate to you that you may have picked the wrong audience for this question -- this sub's well-traveled by incels and dudes who are angry with women for their "inflated" standards (which in a "free market" I would argue is open to debate), and most of the female participants are married. If you wanted to illustrate that women overvalue themselves where relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:33 PM
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I know why they do it, I just think it's a stupid fucking exercise. Some salty single dude on the internet gets to take a happily married woman "down a peg"? Okay, if that's how they want to get their jollies, power to them, but most of the women here aren't interested in participating in this anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:30 PM
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Use your search tool. This has been asked and answered like... a dozen boring-ass times. Women list stuff that they bring to a relationship and salty dudes are like "well I can get that via x, so it doesn't count". Booooring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:41 PM
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the problems in those relationships were mostly specific to the individual man, not consistent from one relationship to the next. Agreed. I've had two real LTRs, one of which I am in currently. The frustrating parts of each LTR are TOTALLY DIFFERENT, owing to the fact that the two men are completely different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 04:33 PM
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I feel like all of this can be resolved by marrying an adult who goes "oh hey, that thing needs to be done, I will do it" instead of being obstinate over whose "job" it is. Keeping score is a surefire way to wind up miserable in your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:56 PM
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It doesn't, tbh. I've been varying states of overweight my whole life so I haven't reaped a lot of "pretty girl" privilege... losing what little I might still retain isn't really something that concerns me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:19 PM
1

I imagine you probably mean dood red-pillers... ... but I come from a healthy, intact family background, for what that's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 10:20 PM
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Yeah, if you want to disgust your direct superior and never get a promotion again...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:39 PM
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how can I end this without stirring trouble in my job? You can't. Sometimes the consequences of your actions suck. Hopefully this won't be one of those cases, but there's no way to unfuck this situation that guaranteed doesn't explode your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:38 PM
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We lost my mom a couple years ago, and I do miss talking to her about this stuff. My parents both struck a really nice balance between having important conversations with us, and leading by example. So yes, I went to my mom for life advice frequently... and also to my dad. They were on the same page about most things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:36 PM
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Eh, blue collar work has pros and cons like anything else. My bf is a foreman in a construction trade -- the work is physically demanding, he works 12-14 hour days during the busy season, and he has to work outdoors in a bunch of garbage weather conditions. That said, it definitely keeps him fit, he earns a very decent living, and it's a great fit for his personality (he's very intelligent but doesn't do "classroom learning" very well). I definitely wouldn't steer my kids away from the trades.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:32 PM
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both of us make up by STFUing for a few minutes, then acting like nothing happened and everythings nice and normal--and it is. neither of us require lots of words, processing, apologies , closure etc, we just keep rolling along Yesssss. I hate this part of trying to make up with anyone else. lol. Let's just pretend it didn't happen! That's the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:35 PM
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What IS the point of NASCAR?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:45 PM
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Fuck no. I'm neurotic as shit and kind of a know-it-all. I'd hate a second me. My bf and I agree on a lot of values things but we're very very different personalities. He's an ESTP and I'm INTJ, if that makes any difference. ... yeah, you like that MBTI, don't you? Oh yeah, take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:33 PM
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To cause you emotional upset. Is it working?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:31 PM
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I feel like anyone who's actively seeking out "feminist blogs" to read is already biased in a certain direction -- just another echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 12:27 PM
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I'm RP but not a dude. I have 2 girls. I don't plan to feed my daughters the "FOCUS ON YOUR CAREER" line, but I don't plan to encourage them to marry at any particular age either. Hopefully by the age they're considering getting married, their lifetimes of being forced to consider/experience the possible consequences of their actions will guide them to make the best possible choice for their own happiness and fulfillment. Presumably in living with me and their dad, they'll inevitably soak up som…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 12:24 PM
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lol. Which BPers say that looks don't matter? Do you have any evidence of this? At most the ones here would probably say "looks matter less than you think", but let's not strawman them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 06:37 PM
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Do relationships matter? Fuck yes. I'm about as introverted a creature as they come, but my social and familial and romantic connections are what make life as a human worth living. Does the pill stuff matter? Only if my relationships aren't working, I guess. ... but I can empathize, OP. I've definitely had periods in my life where I was like "I'm done playing the games, if I die alone, so be it." Hopefully it passes for you like it has for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 08:25 PM
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AtlasB 4 prez
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 03:30 PM
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There probably are now, as of this moment, and they're all from PPD. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 07:09 PM
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I mean, if he found me physically unappealing? Yeah, that'd be a problem. ... but he's had hotter women. I know this for a fact. He did "settle" for me in that arena, because liked my other (many :p) positive traits. He finds me sexy enough, and a good match in personality, values and motivation across a variety of other arenas. That doesn't bother me, perse. I know I'm not the hottest thing walking, but fortunately, that's not all I have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 07:00 PM
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Ok so you're going to nitpick about semantics rather than address the point in good faith. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:36 PM
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I'm saying that if you think there's some grand conscious, deliberate plot on the part of women to LIE with the intention of excluding certain men from pussy, you're wrong. And yeah, it's projection on both ends. The man and the woman in the hypothetical both project their own personal goals and difficulties on the other, and so it ends up a big mess of miscommunication. That's why TRP rightly suggests that men not ask women for dating advice of any kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:32 PM
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I wouldn't call Jon Hamm a dad bod. He's not super-lean there, but definitely on the leaner end of "normal". I guess if I had to decide what a dad bod was I'd lean more toward the Seth Rogen (not that I use the term "dad bod" regularly, or that I've given it a ton of thought). That being said, none of those dudes are unbangable by my personal measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:29 PM
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lol, you're projecting way more introspection and intent on women than they ever actually experience. The dude asks a woman, "how do I become more attractive to women?" He means, "how do I get women to want to fuck me?" She hears "how do I get women to want to date me?" She answers accordingly, and her answer doesn't help the man get laid because she's thinking "LTR comfort". He rages out and declares that all women are liars and are just plotting with the Chads to deny them pussy. ... which, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:23 PM
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It'd depend on what the circumstances were. Like, how likely is he to get arrested or charged based on the pot smoking? Does he use it to unwind, or is he an unproductive, un-adulting mess? Does the drinker go to where I'm cleaning up his vomit on the regular? Is he a happy drunk or a punchy one? I probably wouldn't get serious with anyone who was overly attached to any substance, but for the sake of argument... it'd depend on who adhered more closely to the sorts of values I'm looking for in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:35 PM
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No. They hear "attractive" and think "someone that I would enjoy being with romantically". Men haven't bothered to specify that what they mean by "attractive" which is "someone that I want to deliver the weka anal". Very little inspires spontaneous lust in women the way it occurs in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:28 PM
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What's your gender, and do you have female friends? I'm female. I didn't have a lot of female friends (like more than one or two at a time) until I got older, like probably 25+. How do your friendships with women differ from your friendships with men? Typically just in shared interests. I have some female-dominated interests and some male-dominated interests. Typically my friendships with women are more "emotionally intimate", whereas my friendships with men are more... I don't know how to artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:22 PM
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And really, there'd be no better way to avoid dealing with women than to develop an appreciation for dick...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:14 PM
3

Probably somewhere between the horror I felt when I went to make oatmeal this morning and found that there were no coconut flakes left, and the horror I felt when I came to the realization that I'd never be offered money to model lingerie. So like... not very. =\
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:17 PM
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looool you should post it to askreddit. See how long it takes the lynch mob to show up at your door. This is basically what I'm doing with my life so far, but we live in a place where common-law is a thing so I'm legally entitled to half his stuff if we split up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 03:33 AM
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No don't. Some penis-bearing troglodyte will come and try to make non-consensual love to your face if it looks like it might be a vagina. Rape culture, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:20 AM
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I never properly appreciated them until I got pregnant. I'm sorry, antacids, for failing to recognize your brilliance. You da real MVP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:17 AM
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IM TINGLING
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:59 AM
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You seem very niggered. That's when a nigger is triggered. I'm so clever :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:18 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-iFOEOgIM
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:00 PM
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WE ARE WOMEN. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:44 PM
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The first time I actually listened to the interview I totally got the impression that he was lying about his drinking so I was like "yeah, perjured himself, fuck that guy". But then when I went back and really reviewed what he said, he was very careful about the way he admitted to drinking, but dodged and deflected the questions about blacking out from drink. I suspect he lied about what boofing and devil's triangle meant to him but we'll never know for sure unless someone has video of him putti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:42 PM
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It's all still good advice for anyone who doesn't want to become the victim of a crime, be that rape or being falsely accused. lol. Freedom comes with risk. Babies get cancer. People get struck by lightning. Sorry, reality sucks sometimes!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:26 PM
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I believed this as recently as yesterday morning, actually... and then I re-read the transcript. I think Kavanaugh chose his words very carefully to avoid perjuring himself, and that there's really no way to prove those colloquialisms weren't used by he and his friends in the way he described. As far as the drinking age is concerned, it's a little weird that he didn't know what it actually was at the time, but it WAS 35 years ago and that's hardly a smoking gun. idk if he's a great pick for SCJ,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:23 PM
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She needs that money to add doors to all her houses and to build rail systems to anywhere she'd want to go because she was so traumatized. Step off, misogynist. God.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:13 AM
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I mean, it was kinda funny. Maybe not intentionally so, but it still totally counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:59 AM
2

Whew, praise science!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:52 AM
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If I had to look at your face in the mirror every day, I imagine that everything else would seem unfunny to me by comparison, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:44 AM
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your mom is really lame and unfunny >=(
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:36 AM
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Atlas is an awesome, sweet, lovely human and a vicious debater. lol. If you take her directness personally while debating, and make personal attacks, she'll probably call you a nigger or a faggot or both. She's one of my favorite online peeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:19 PM
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Well if a weiner is a penis, then it's rape. Cause penises are rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:50 PM
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;thinking; ... but I'm the autist. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:15 PM
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Probably. I'm pretty sure most things are rape now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:12 PM
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neverforget
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:11 PM
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Penises are rape. It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:18 PM
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It's true. All those consumers of beastiality and kiddy porn are mostly women who have just been insufficiently worshipped. It's a sad state of affairs. Fuckin degenerate wamen just don't know how to pick a quality salty Indian sperglord.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:18 PM
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Incel showers are always golden. ... o wait, no they're not! They can't even get women to pee on them :(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:00 PM
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Yes. Penises are by definition rape. So I guess since an F2M can't ever really have a penis, they're only rapists in spirit, which doesn't really count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:23 PM
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I am white and a towel would raise my standard of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:18 PM
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idk. I pooped today. That was almost literally effortless. I had to put on an elaborate act to convince my SO that he was satisfactory to my hypergamous nature, which required a greater investment of time and energy. QED, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:11 PM
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Were their intentions peer-reviewed? Did they know that women are incapable of love and you'll just divorce rape them and that they can get a dog and a maid and a hooker and it'll be the same as having a wife without all the betrayal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:08 PM
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Was it deficient in length or in girth, or both, proportionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:08 PM
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Pft, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:07 PM
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I personally care A Lot. I devote considerable amounts of time and energy to feeling bad that I won at life and salty incel fags are so triggered by this fact. It's true. Concern is literally flowing from my pores. afk need a towel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:03 PM
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Could you quit being such a misogynistic shitlord? We live in a rape culture, so at best every man is at least passively guilty of raping every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:57 PM
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I definitely do. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:45 AM
4

A MAN CAN GET LOTS OF DOGS
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:45 AM
2

Your husband sounds like my bf. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:31 AM
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You should post about it on Twitter. #metoo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:18 AM
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your pairbonder is broken. It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:17 AM
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pls show bobs and vagene
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:08 AM
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PSYCH YOU'RE A WOMAN AND INCAPABLE OF LOVE. FATALISTIC MALE MISERY WINS AGAIN
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:08 AM
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A MAN CAN GET A DOG AS A LIFE PARTNER. THAT DOESNT COUNT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:01 AM
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Red Pill thinkers have long postulated that a woman who fornicates on the initial rendezvous is a hoory mchoore and has probably seen no fewer than 230489.4 dicks, which is a number well beyond the acceptable wifing threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:59 AM
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The betas think they're orbiting me, but my bf's penis is SO HUGE that they're actually caught in its gravitational pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:47 AM
2

Was your wedding peer-reviewed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:28 AM
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Now that allegation I can CONFIRM. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:19 AM
1

I HAVE BECOME THE CHANGE
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:17 AM
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I CAN NEITHER CONFIRM NOR DENY YOUR ALLEGATION.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:14 AM
0

More pertinent question: who curr?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:05 AM
2

How about another nice post about what women actually offer men, such that men should want to marry them? We haven't fielded that line of inquiry in awhile! Or maybe some whining about how only chad ever gets laid and no other man ever sees vagina ever ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:04 AM
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i died
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:08 AM
1

"CUZ YO MOM MAKES ME A SAMMICH EVERY TIME I FUCK HER."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:07 AM
2

Agree and amplify. Scream at the baby for food, louder than it cries at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:56 AM
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PRUTEK WAMEN
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 10:48 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 03:10 PM
4

In theory, yes. You can establish consent, blablabla. Do people do shit like "can I touch you here?" in an ongoing way at every step throughout an encounter? No. So unless we want to try to rewrite sex completely to include unromantic check-ins at every stage, which I don't think is really a realistic benchmark to hit, I think we'll keep falling short and people will keep being subjected to awkward sexual encounters from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 05:47 PM
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I'm like 5'10.5", almost 34 years old. My SO is 6'3"ish and 28 years old. I did tend to gravitate toward taller and older than myself when I was dating, but I went out with just about anyone who showed an interest at least once -- never know what chemistry might happen! I had a couple shorter-term (less than a year) relationships with dudes who were shorter than myself so it wasn't really a deal-breaker. My bf at 23 when I met him had his shit more together than a lot of the 35-ish year old dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 05:10 PM
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There's no clean line. You have to start the interaction and read her cues. Being physically attractive helps too, but it's not a guarantee either. Sry dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 10:11 PM
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lol, I'm one of those "I will leave 45 mins early to allow myself time to get lost and still arrive 15 mins early" types. His approach gives me massive anxiety, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 04:55 PM
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I also put no concept of time, but now that I think of it... He knows exactly what time it is. It's just that if we have an appointment at 1 at a place that is 15 minutes away, he leaves the house at like 12:48 and then drives too fast to make up the time. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 04:39 AM
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Pros: 1) severely hot with a big weiner 2) outrageously funny 3) curious and intelligent 4) assertive and direct 5) amazing sense of integrity and work ethic Cons: 1) overly aggressive (mostly while driving) 2) willing to self-destruct to prove a point or win at something 3) no concept of time 4) impatient (except with our kids) 5) low impulse-control
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 04:36 AM
4

I like that you included a 6" penis as the benchmark for penile excellence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 09:38 PM
4

Hmmm... this is tough to articulate. I believe the RP ideas about male and female nature and behavior in the SMV and RMV are true on a macro scale. It's what I think people should do with those ideas that is more BP, I guess? I don't think people SHOULD be dicks to get laid or get married or whatever their goals are -- but I'm not at all in denial about the fact that they do these things. I can appreciate there's a certain "fairness" to the idea that "well women are pursuing their sexual strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 08:27 PM
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I know, and that's fine. It's up to whatever individual to choose how they convey their message. I think the emphasis on not catering to snowflakes with nice words ends up diluting the meaning that a lot of RP "gurus" (idk what word to use there, lol) are trying to convey, and you wind up with something that's overly-fatalistic. Ultimately everyone's responsible for their own interpretations and actions though, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 03:13 PM
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Is it really my job to fix him? Fuck no. Girl, gtfo. What's wrong with you? This is why "sharing everything" with your partner is a bad fuckin' idea. Also why dating incels who're still mad at women is a bad fuckin' idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:46 PM
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The risk isn't just to women's delicate sensibilities -- it's like... dudes with impaired social awareness going "well all women have rape fantasies" getting charged with sexual assault when they fail to distinguish between the "no(t yet but I'm open to being convinced)" and "no(t ever, fuck off creepo)". Just articulating my point -- I'm sure you personally know this :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 07:57 PM
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I mean, while TRP is a male space where tone policing is discouraged, I can certainly appreciate the potential risk to everyone in telling spergy men who are incapable of reading nonverbal cues that all women have rape fantasies. Either way, not really my problem... but I could see the value in moderating the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 06:35 PM
2

This is word salad. You've managed to very condescendingly convey... nothing. We can probably break people down into "unattractive", "in the middle" and "attractive" based on generalizations, but if we want to mandate that only a 6 may pair with a 6, it's going to be virtually impossible to assess what exactly constitutes a 6 in each sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:30 PM
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"... beyond a rudimentary implementation" covers that, I think. Symmetry is universally attractive, a healthy range of weight is universally attractive. Beyond the general, it'd be difficult to articulate what specific thing makes a 7 different from an 8, besides personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:38 PM
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I fixed the title for you, OP: "SHOULD THERE BE SOCIAL NORMS?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 07:39 PM
1

Very nicely written, +1 to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 04:57 PM
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Yeah, "should" just doesn't factor into attraction. Would it be more "fair" if everyone dated their looks/status-match? Probably, but that's just not reality. Not to mention that everyone has different tastes, so beyond a very rudimentary implementation, it'd be hard to put individuals on a universal "scale".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 04:55 PM
1

I mean, if kids who would have lead happy and healthy lives aren't born, that would drag down the happy-kids average. More happy, well-adjusted kids get to have happy, well-adjusted impacts on their peers and on the world in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 02:47 PM
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The unpredictable nature of reality, which dumps kids on people who maybe didn't know they wanted them, and denies kids to people who wanted them but can't have them due to circumstance. OP's position was that "everyone is better off" when "career women" don't get to make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 11:40 PM
2

1) yes 2) meh 3) meh My "type" has always been kinda lanky with a nice jawline, and glasses totally do it for me for whatever reason. That being said, I have dated (read: boned) everything from ribs-protruding to fluffy to powerlifter. I do like a competitive nature in a man, but it doesn't have to be about sports, specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:03 PM
2

Eh, all I really have is anecdotes, but as a couple counter-points... I'm a proto-career woman who turned family-woman basically by accident. "Have a family" wasn't really on my radar at 12. I've never generically liked children (and still don't like most other peoples' kids). A family was a "yeah, sometime later when I'm financially stable" abstraction. I got a graduate degree with top marks in a STEM field and was struggling to get my foot in the door in my field when I got surprise-pregnant b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 05:24 PM
-1

I tried to come up with an intelligent comment but the only thing in my head is "eugh". D:
/r/MensRights15/09/18 05:41 PM
2

I didn't downvote you, but nice persecution complex. No, you're right. There's no such thing as sugar babies anymore. There definitely aren't websites for men and women seeking that kind of arrangement. There aren't songs and jokes and posts on TRP bitching about gold-diggers. That's totally not a thing anymore. All in the past. Thanks for playing, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 05:31 PM
3

Men who buy expensive dinners for women who have no intention of fucking them should just be grateful that at least they have the means to buy expensive dinners. That's better than most women have it. At least the rich can be used for dinners, and that's not nothing. Nobody derives warm fuzzies from being used for shit. Getting attention from a man who regards you as a step up from the day-old sock by his bedside isn't a compliment that a woman is going to feel grateful for or validated by.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 07:02 PM
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I looked at the first two pictures and was like "well the chick with the bedroom eyes and all the makeup looks dtf, obviously". Sure enough, top comment <3 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 03:09 PM
3

Of course you disagree. You can't see past the end of your own dry-ass dick. You're so deep in the poor me incel bullcrap that you are arguably incapable of seeing reality. Bestiality or having sex with a gender you are not attracted to has nothing to do with this It has everything to do with this. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. If men are getting stopped at the proverbial gate, either by female choosiness or other circumstances, some proportion of them get creative. The mentality is the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:57 PM
2

For men, getting laid can be separate than "I am attracted, I would like to pursue". Obviously most men would prefer that women they find appealing touch their dicks, but if there's no takers, the urge to stick a boner in a hole will drive men to some interesting things. Obviously that happens on a spectrum, but yeah. Some dudes decide they'll tolerate a dude's mouth in prison, some dudes decide they'll tolerate a donkey in countries where women's sexuality is more carefully policed, and some du…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:33 PM
6

Not bp, but meatheads have always been targets for derision. Big tuna-eating hypermasculine dummies who care for nothing but gainzzzzz.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 10:23 PM
4

Exactly. Dudes don't go out all like, "Today I will find a donkey to fuck because I find them aesthetically pleasing". It's like "MY DICK IS HARD AND THIS LOOKS LIKE A HOLE. GOOD ENOUGH."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:27 PM
4

No, they're fucking her "off of" opportunity. Dudes fuck goats and dolls and who knows what else. Boner + hole = opportunity, not attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:56 PM
4

No. A 3/10 can be considered bangable, but men who aren't looksmatched to her aren't going to date her or introduce her to their friends or be seen in public with her. "I'd throw her a fuck" doesn't constitute "attractive". A dude with a boner will fuck just about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:50 PM
3

</thread> At the end of the day, the only person who really has to live with your choices is you, so don't make choices that make you hard to live with. ezpz.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 09:35 PM
4

Yep, agreed. You also don't know how many of those girls are smiling and happy externally and cutting themselves or abusing substances when nobody's looking. But beyond that, yeah. If you're pretty and in your early 20s, you probably haven't yet had to face realities like "will my career allow me to live the lifestyle I want?" and "uh oh, I'm 35 and I have a great career that I've worked hard to attain, but I'm single and I'm starting to want babies". tl;dr: all life choices have upsides and dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 03:40 PM
0

+1 for the "women can be cunts" camp
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 02:55 PM
2

I don't have a penis so I can't really identify with how it informs your choices... ... but there are plenty of vaginas out there not attached to shitbags. Why not go for one of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 02:53 PM
1

Disclaimer: I'm not taking either position, personally. This is just my perception of the schools of thought. We don't know where that divide is between nature and nurture, in terms of what grants us our potential. For instance, is a lower IQ in the black population relative to the white population a result of genetics, or a result of long-term oppression and poverty? If it's the former, pointing out the fact just feels bad -- nobody likes to think their potential is limited by things beyond the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 07:15 PM
1

They don't fit normally in the SMP. They're weird anomalies that rarely work out, and are a bad idea unless there's a known end-date for the long-distance part of the relationship. I say this as someone whose relationship started out as an LDR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:30 PM
1

Well yeah, if it had happened like that... but it didn't. lol. We met online. He was with someone else when we met, and showed me a photo of the two of them. We didn't get together til months later, after they'd split up. Please note that there's a difference between "I know he has options" and "I let him shit all over me because I am garbage and I hate myself" -.-
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:15 PM
4

I use mine as a kick-stand when my legs get tired. ... uh, I mean... I like to do my makeup pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 10:03 PM
1

Interesting so it does work on you? Totally! If you're not at least on some level afraid to lose a thing, why would you bust your ass to keep it? It motivates me to be better, to try to keep up with where I perceive his value is, versus my own. Is it still dread game if it's unintentional/natural? I mean, I guess you could call it "passive dread" and distinguish it from active "dread game" but it's all just semantics. It's the same principles whether the dude's doing it consciously or not. I'm c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:32 PM
5

Some of the steps are retarded, I'll agree... but it's based on a pretty fundamental RP principle which is to talk less and do more. You can't "communicate better" your way into the porn-quality sex life that you want with your wife if she's decided you're not worth fucking. Most of this is to (subtly) remind her that you have options, to keep her working for your attention and approval -- demonstrate continuously that you're higher value than she is, such that her hypergamy is satisfied. For li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:02 PM
1

My old roommate was 5'3". He's had no shortage of women in his life, both as one-time lays and LTRs. He's also self-assured, funny, intelligent, and really really fit. I will note that he takes a hit on online dating sites where his height's listed up front and he doesn't have a chance to charm women before they've disqualified him. So do women disqualify dudes based on height? Definitely. Is it an insurmountable obstacle? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:01 PM
2

It really makes no difference to me at all, so I don't tend to ask. A lot of dudes volunteer the information though, for whatever reason. Maybe they're hoping I'll reciprocate so they can assess what sort of a dirty hoore I am (for better or worse, depending on their values and intentions)? Female, 30s, red
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 10:33 PM
1

Seems clear to me: either make decent bank, or be hot. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 10:31 PM
2

leads to women wondering why men are not attracted to them I dispute this. Nobody is that deeply in denial. Fat chicks know precisely why men aren't lining up to pork their delightful personalities. I'm value-neutral on the whole fat acceptance thing. I don't think it's productive to hate yourself for being overweight, but at the same time, I don't think anyone's actually out there getting fat deliberately because the culture has convinced them that being a landwhale is genuinely desirable. At b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 10:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 09:22 PM
-1

BAHAHA. Hipster doofuses and homosexuals. Very fashion, much couture.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 09:19 PM
5

Yeeeah, boning loudly at someone else's house and then taking to the internet to humblebrag are in poor taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 06:07 AM
1

Sense of humor and integrity have been what sealed the deal, so to speak, for me... so I guess I'd have to go fun. I did luck out and happen to find a man who is hilarious and also extremely good-looking, but men I dated in past were definitely more fun than hot. ETA: F/red/30s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 08:19 PM
2

I think it's more a matter of values than number of partners, imo. If a person values sex as being something that should only be shared with someone with whom they share a commitment or an emotional bond, they're not going to want to partner with a person who doesn't attribute any particular emotional or spiritual significance to sex. I think N-count is likely just a proxy for these different value systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 05:58 AM
8

Yeah, exactly. Mercy isn't a logical course most of the time, but it's done some pretty critical things for civilization. ... that and logic-ing kids is fucking pointless for the first few years. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:39 AM
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can women change their patterns of thinking so as to be less inclined to commit logical fallacies? Sure. Just because each sex has certain preferred MOs and tendencies doesn't mean that they're fate. We curb a lot of our baser nature in order to get along in society. Can women make themselves intellectual equals to men? If we're talking grand-scale averages, then no. I think it's totally possible that individual women can be the "intellectual equals" to individual men, though. If so, how? Develo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:33 AM
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If you can swing it financially and it's fulfilling for the woman, I think it's a pretty sweet idea -- just didn't work for us. I get depressed and antsy when I'm not making $$. I'm a better mom and housekeeper and cook when I'm also working. Depression will leech the productivity right outta you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:23 AM
5

The "I am perfect just the way I am!" delusion. Single motherhood -- from the getting there by having babies by idiots to the expecting dudes and the government to pick up the pieces. The victimhood complexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 09:12 PM
14

It's true. We're all just out for Chad's knob, and anything we say to the contrary is just hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 07:59 PM
3

Thank you for being the sane childfree voice. Children do require a LOT of sacrifice sometimes. I think the long-term payout is worth the short-term sacrifices, but not everybody has to adhere to my value system, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:18 PM
2

Did you read the post I was responding to, which was full of all the bad/difficult parts of parenthood? No? Oh, well, carry on then. You must be right. I'm totally in denial about what raising kids is about. You're childfree, obviously you're more enlightened on the subject than I. Sorry for being so triggered, o wise one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:08 PM
3

So what? You'd rather prioritize your own shit over kids, so don't have kids. That's what's best for everyone. That's what I said in the first fucking line if you'd like to read it instead of projecting a bunch of crap I didn't say on my response. I have 2 kids. Please take your childfree autistic explanations of what having kids is like elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:04 PM
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You've totally misread my statement and your barrage of misplaced attempts at shaming me isn't really worth responding to. Part of being an adult is recognizing that your needs can't come first at all times. Obviously someone who never prioritizes your needs is a bad choice of partner, but if you're going to take your wife's short-term focus on a newborn over her being hot and horny at all times, waiting to blow you in public restrooms personally, don't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:01 PM
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I mean, if watching cute, cuddly little mini-yous grow and learn and smile and giggle is outweighed by the horrible possibility that your genitals might not come first for a few months at a time here and there, then yeah, kids are probably a bad idea for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 09:46 PM
1

I'm sure they can... and there are lots of women who are into metrosexual dudes. It just never worked for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 12:30 AM
3

Awww. That's so sweet! We miss elderbean cuddles in our bed. Unfortunately she refuses to sleep in our room -- as soon as she's in there it's jump-around party time. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 09:21 PM
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It's easy to slip into a mommy moo mindset because lactation is nature's birth control, but also mother-baby bonding produces waayy more oxytocin than some man and his persistent erection. Additionally there's a the sensation of being 'touched out' by the end of the day. All day you've had a barely sentiment potato glommed on to your breast, hanging off you hips, cradled in your arms, etc. At the end of the night you crawl into bed finally free of small grabby hands....only to have large adult g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 08:36 PM
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I like dudes who are all in touch with their feelings and interested in literature and art and stuff... problem is that the desire to bone those dudes is fleeting at best. I often picked more feminine men for myself (I thought it'd work because I'm pretty masculine), but the relationships never worked out, mostly because after the novelty that initially allowed me to bang these men wore off, I had no further interest in sex with them, and that becomes an issue in a sexually monogamous romantic r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 06:16 AM
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I'd feel like she was a fuckin sperg. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 05:54 AM
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I hope we can all be a little more compassionate and patient with men... and I see feminism as being directly in the path of that goal. We see things in terms of women: oppressed, men: oppressors. Not only does this ignore that each sex comes with its own unique pros and cons, it also justifies the dismissal of men's issues and the derision directed at men who "dare" to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 04:33 PM
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Is being played/used for sex that bad? Depends 100% on the woman's level of emotional investment. If he's someone you're really into and you bang and he never calls again, it'll be a lot harder than if he was someone you were kinda on the fence about. Using people under false pretenses is morally naughty, regardless of the whos and the whats. I think the current state of the law around misleading and exploiting people is adequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 07:41 PM
1

So I ask, have you ever felt an attraction to a guy who you initially felt was unattractive? Not an initial "ew", but "meh" has been upgraded to super hot on many an occasion based on his being funny or intelligent or whatever other quality I happen to be having a boner for at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 07:36 PM
1

What else ya got? This: Also, the study referenced admits that it did not control for experience or willingness to negotiate salary and it still narrowed down to 92 percent. It's also full of conjecture. Did you even read this slimy weasel turd of an article (and the garbage "report" from which it is derived) before posting it as a sad effort at a "gotcha"? They're not comparing apples to apples. All of the "shocking" statistics they post about male-female earnings are cherry-picked and massaged…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 04:59 PM
1

Let me try to dumb it down for you: Women on average have more training and education in fields that don't pay as well. ETA: Fields including gender studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 10:33 PM
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And no women don’t all have gender studies degrees either, cause I know you were about to go there. Sorry, that's the reality of it. Social work, health and education fields pay less than engineering and computer science. Women are under-represented in STEM despite earning a larger proportion of degrees than men, overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 10:12 PM
2

Uh, yeah? The study confirms that the pay gap exists EVEN WHEN adjusted. That’s bad. Uh, no? Why would you assume that that was the end of all corrections to be made? The more non-sexism factors that were considered, the smaller the "gender" pay gap became. Why would you think that bam, okay, our analysis is perfect now, sexism creates a 9% pay gap. That logic is bad. Those are impossible to measure, so it’s irrelevant to mention them. Yes... non-gender factors that would likely further close th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 10:09 PM
2

I find it interesting that you looked at this study which suggests that the more corrections are applied for non-gender factors, the further the "gender" pay gap shrinks, and conclude that it confirms that a gender wage gap exists. The corrections applied are the easy ones (hours worked, profession, experience, training, etc.) These things can be cleanly documented in a quantitative way. What about factors that can't be easily assigned a numerical value for a regression? For instance, an individ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 04:35 AM
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I'm the same -- I have a 2 year old and a 2 month old. We tried SAHMing with the older girl and I was a big depressed sack of shit. For whatever reason, contributing to the household financially is integral to my sense of self-worth. I can cook and clean and mom til I'm blue in the face but I'm restless if I'm not making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 06:41 AM
1

It's been speculated that the remaining gap can be accounted for by women's lesser inclination to negotiate for increases and higher starting salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 06:31 AM
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We dispute that it's a gender wage gap. It's a "hours worked, job experience, training" wage gap. Women aren't paid less because they happen to have vag-flaps while occupying equivalent positions with equivalent experience relative to men -- they're paid less ON AVERAGE because they ON AVERAGE work less, in less lucrative careers. To call it a "gender wage gap" is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 06:27 AM
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Men should lay out an honest "intent to wed" contract before taking any woman's panties off. HONESTY, IT'S WHAT'S FOR BREAKFAST.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 12:27 AM
3

Weird digital-looking-ness aside, yes, would bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 10:12 PM
2

Because they're projecting. To a woman, hearing "you're fat; lose weight and dress better" would be a devastating attack on her character -- they assume men feel the same way about it (which most don't, ime). ... and you're projecting. Female sexuality is not the same as male sexuality. While "he got fat" might be the sole reason for some women to discontinue intimacy, I think they're a minority. I think it's way more likely that a woman who doesn't want to fuck her husband has a) lost respect f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 02:58 PM
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Yeah, assuming she's being honest about the numbers, I personally doubt that it's the 10 lbs that sealed the deal, but a couple of months of conscious eating/exercising should take those off no problem, particularly if she's starting at 185. You think they'd tell a man he's perfect as he is? Of course not. There are a couple reasons for this, one of which is that pointing out a man's weight gain is not an indictment of his character the way it is with a woman -- my SO and his coworkers hassle ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 02:52 PM
1

I mean, that's the association I'd make, but realistically it might be any number of other factors causing resentment, or maybe he'd just rather rub one out than have to deal with another human if he's under a lot of stress. Easiest way to figure it out would be to get back to the weight at which he was still initiating sex with her and see if the issue resolves itself. As for why people are reassuring her that she's perfect the way she is... idk. Having physical standards for your partner is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 01:35 PM
5

Fatherlessness is strongly correlated with crappy outcomes for kids later in life. The data is out there.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 01:27 PM
2

I have a pretty masculine brain so I was always the one who did the pursuing. It just seemed natural -- INTJ brain was like "well why fuck around? Just tell him what you want". I got a LOT of dates/attention from shy men. Unfortunately, I could never seem to stop myself from steamrolling that kind of man. My current SO did all the pursuing. He is very dominant. The beginning of the relationship was really alien for me -- I wasn't used to being chased. I was very suspicious. As it turns out, this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:32 PM
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Yes. Men who aren't highly desirable can probably go years, or their whole lifetimes, without seeing the sort of toxic crazy women are capable of. Men who do well with women are going to be bombarded with all the worst of female manipulation and emotional extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:27 PM
2

Give it a try. If you like the results, persist. If you don't, don't. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:30 PM
1

TIL :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 04:47 AM
2

Not at all. I'd prefer that he not smell homeless. Don't care about hairline. idc if a dude is bald or if his hairline's receding. It's only a turn-off if he thinks he's hiding it cleverly with combovers and hair pieces. I actually really like salt-and-pepper and grey hair on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 04:33 AM
3

I agree with this assessment. AMALT and AWALT are descriptive acknowledgements that biology produces commonalities among people of each sex -- male and female nature. "Men are trash" and "women are disloyal" are moralizations about male and female nature. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:58 PM
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I mean, some dudes have hit on traditionally feminine behaviors... it's just that they want a tender, nurturing, loyal and submissive woman... who is also intelligent and ambitious and doesn't bother him with outbursts of emotion. glhf with that, boys. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:45 AM
1

Well, yeah... you're kind of making his point and I don't think you realize it. lol. Lava and floods and plagues are all spontaneous phenomena. These don't relate to animal behavior or social order. They have nothing to do with humans. Lobsters murder each other and cannibalize each other, a natural phenomenon. Humans (biochemically-similar to lobsters, social animals) also do these things! JP's point is... to assume that our dumb human social constructs such as patriarchy and capitalism have cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:43 AM
2

... yes, that's what he's saying. Inequality is not caused by patriarchy and capitalism -- social hierarchies are spontaneously-occurring phenomena of the natural world. Unless you're talking about "morally wrong", which is another topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 09:21 PM
7

ITT: men who want all the nice qualities of femininity without any of the concurrent annoying ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 09:16 PM
2

Hierarchies in social animals predate capitalism and patriarchy, so "curing" patriarchy and capitalism is unlikely to "cure" inequality (ie: social hierarchies). He's just saying that the premise from which SJWs are operating (inequality caused by patriarchy and capitalism) is wrong, which is why their solutions are/will be ineffective (based on socialism's track record).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 09:14 PM
2

Well they seem to believe the government should step in and impose inequality of opportunity on private enterprises in order to supposedly achieve equality of outcome. That's pretty socialism-y.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:59 PM
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No, you're right. SJWs are not concerned about patriarchy or capitalism. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:41 PM
3

I mean, apparently it is. Because there's a whole social movement that postulates that capitalism and patriarchy are responsible for social and financial inequality and that all we need to live in a utopia of love and unicorns is more socialism. If dominance hierarchies are features of life as a social animal rather than bugs of a system of oppressors and oppressed, the "solution" to the "problem" is going to be pretty different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:37 PM
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Yeah. That's my situation atm. Actually, it's not that my bf is specifically anti-marriage... honestly I don't even REALLY know what his deal is, but he "shows up" every day for our family, so while I would -like- to be married, it's not something that I'd walk away from him over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:28 PM
4

Date whomever you want to date. Treat women like adults with agency -- if she doesn't like what you're offering, it's her responsibility to ditch you and go find what she wants. Protecting women is not your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 06:42 PM
2

Vetting is an odds-improver, not a guarantee-creator. There's no guarantee that my bf won't ever develop a meth habit, but I improved my odds of this by avoiding getting involved with people with current, active meth habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 06:39 PM
2

"The wall" doesn't happen right at 30. Like, you don't turn into a saggy, wrinkly sack of shit at the stroke of midnight on your 30th birthday. Meghan Markle has definitely not hit the wall yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:45 PM
3

I'm not eligible because I am way too amazing to be "average", but I think the western world has the whole women's rights thing pretty well figured out. Honor killings and child brides and sex slavery could prob use some work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:40 PM
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Yep. My SO has qualities that make me insane on the regular... and I confess that I will occasionally bitch/ask advice about these from the few people I do trust... but as far as the "outside world" should be concerned, the sun shines out his butthole :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:19 PM
2

Yeah there's really nothing I don't like about him physically... and the longer we spend together, the more I like him, and the better-looking he seems to become. It's hard to picture a "physical ideal" in my head that isn't him. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 05:25 AM
1

I have to say, I would possibly go gay for JLH. The Client List was a retarded show but I watched it all because she is just. so. hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:24 PM
1

Till Lindemann, Henry Rollins is super fuckin hot physically but a bit of a bleeding-heart liberal for my personality-tastes. Mark Labbett... I have sort of a boner for intelligence and snark in an English accent (on that note, Gordon Ramsay too). There's something about Anthony Kiedis' body language that I find really appealing also. ETA: I forgot Jason Momoa. He's p sexy also.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:15 PM
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Bad breath, fat thighs, a shitty attitude and expensive tastes. Please go share this with your friends as evidence that women offer nothing and are incapable of love and never post this stupid fucking question again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:58 PM
1

Would men stay because she's hot? Overwhelmingly, yes. Hot women who need rescuing are like crack for a large proportion of men. Some eventually learn the hard way, some spend their entire adult lives rescuing and subsequently having these women shit in their souls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 07:23 PM
2

Agreed. Ime, incels are of the opinion that paying for it doesn't count. They want a(n attractive) woman to like them for them, organically. Besides which, the illegality of it really isn't an obstacle now. If they have enough internets-savvy to complain about women on incel forums, they definitely have the skills to find an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:45 AM
3

Something something dick in crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:41 AM
1

Men don't want to be an ATM for a woman... and they also don't want to come second to a woman's career if they're considering that woman for an LTR. There are a lot of options between "unemployed gold-digging bum" and "ball-busting, emotionally unavailable career woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:35 AM
1

I hear you. "We live on benefits and I'm pregnant with my 7th child!! Isn't that wonderful!?" Fucking no it isn't. Get fucking snipped already.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:50 PM
1

Yep. I'm actually not anti-social-programs. I personally would rather risk enabling some bums in the interest of protecting kids from their retard parents' bad life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:28 AM
5

Break up with him now. There is no "best moment" to leave a person who doesn't want to be left, so rip the band-aid off now. He'll be pissed/sad etc etc. but he'll live. As for what to say, something like "I don't see us together forever and I want to split up". Don't allow yourself to be bargained into "one more chance". Good luck -- It's tough to feel like you're letting a person who "needs" you down, but the sooner you do it, the sooner you can both get to healing and moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:38 PM
3

He's definitely "the boss" and ultimately does what he wants, but he treats me well and solicits my input and stuff. I feel very loved and protected and respected to the extent that I believe any man is capable of "respecting" a woman. Idk, it works really well. We make each other's lives easier and more enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:26 AM
3

Lol. He's not threatened by any woman of any variety. He just has no time for stompy shrews who spend their time and energy asserting how much they don't need no man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:09 AM
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Nah, we have kids. I'd prefer we work some kind of hall pass out before he cheats. I'm not super hung up on sexual monogamy. Might be a different matter if he fell in love with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:07 AM
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I was about 27 I think? I just stumbled across something MGTOW online and started following links deeper and deeper down the proverbial rabbit hole. There was always something about the social justice/feminist narrative that didn't really sit right with me, and I found that the "red pill" worldview more accurately explained the phenomena I was seeing around me. I started dating my current partner at around the same time. Accepting the reality of male nature, I think, has been instrumental in kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:10 PM
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Big daddy government is subsidizing women's whoops babies with losers. I don't think that's hypergamy, just the unintended consequences of social programs and marxist political leanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:02 PM
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Idk, it totally makes sense from where I'm sitting. Young, carefree women are enticed by his masculine, alpha qualities. Women in their 30s are looking for a life partner rather than for exciting dick. Lack of a job and other "I'm an adult" soft-markers are going to turn those women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:44 AM
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.....is masculinity in THIS much trouble? Depends where you're looking ime. My SO is a tradesman -- "traditional" and "toxic" masculinity (read: masculinity) are alive and well in that demographic... ... that being said, I think hypergamy makes it a little tougher to settle, as a blue-collar dude because those occupations are more or less by definition "lower class". College women don't want to settle down with a guy with no formal education, and more and more women are becoming college-educated…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 09:34 PM
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If I were unattached and wanted to fuck him? Absolutely. I'd consider it even if I didn't want to fuck him, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:10 PM
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Shit-tested, breh. lol. Women are amazing at asking questions they don't really want to hear the answers to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:09 PM
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I'd be pretty crushed. Fortunately his annoyingly relentless boners keep me secure in the knowledge that his little head likes me arguably more than his big one does. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:09 PM
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Yeah I agree mostly. I've been calling promiscuity a proxy for like... ever. It's not that promiscuity CAUSES infidelity -- it's that promiscuity is a proxy for novelty and risk-seeking behavior in some people whose risk and novelty-seeking behavior manifests that way.... so it might correlate on a macro-scale, but using it predictively is... idk, missing the bigger picture imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:03 PM
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I'd sign it. I know I'd never try to screw him in the event of a separation anyway, so putting it on paper wouldn't be a big deal. If it gives him peace of mind, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 04:44 PM
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Can confirm; am a massive misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 04:43 PM
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... or women are over-sensitive? lol.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 10:17 PM
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Yesssss. The guy I dated before my current SO was initially thrilled that I was a horndog gamer-bro in a lady-body, and then a few months later broke up with me because he was looking for someone "nurturing" to be the mother of his children, and promptly got to work dating/rescuing a high-drama feelsy crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 09:55 PM
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ime this totally depends on the guy. Obviously I can't say for certain because I'm not a mind-reader, but I've had dudes who were attracted enough by my appearance to approach who then totally lost interest upon exposure to my sailor-mouth and fucked-up sense of humor. I have friends who've dated exclusively man-brained women (spanning the whole spectrum of attractiveness, depending on how attractive the dude himself is), and I have friends who only date super-feminine-brained women. This is all…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:32 PM
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Given that the issue's still pretty contentious and widely-debated, I'd argue that the distinction isn't necessarily "obvious". ... and we're the arbiters of who/what gets "rights" in our legal system, so I'd say the point at which we cease reliably being able to tell what's an AI and what isn't, without inside information, is also relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:04 PM
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I'm just saying at what point do we consider it "sentient" or "human"? Is it when we can't tell anymore that it's AI, or when it masters self-modification, or when it becomes "self-aware"? How would we reliably know whether it was self-aware? idk, all these cool things to think about, even though the tech's not there yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:46 PM
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Yeah, agreed. It's all in the nuance around how you mean "sacrifice". As the stay-at-home-parent, there were certain freedoms I had that my working SO didn't, and certain responsibilities that I had that he didn't. ... but I also get sick of listening to women bellyache about sacrificing their careers for their kids tbh. Like, nobody made you do it. There are women (and men) out there who'd LOVE to sacrifice their careers for children and don't get that option. Don't be dicks. tl;dr don't be dic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:33 PM
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I guess you win this round if only because I genuinely don't know how to communicate the idea in a way you'll grasp. Even my not-quite-verbal 20-month-old has some concept of how "if x, then y" works. O.o
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:20 PM
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Thank you for your illumination of the bleeding obvious. Are you familiar with the concept of a "hypothetical" or a "thought experiment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 09:51 PM
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I wanna say no... and I think it depends what we're considering a "sex robot" -- what "level" does the AI operate at? Does it pass the Turing test? Is it self-aware? If it is, the issue of rights is inevitable -- things that are self-aware become invested in self-preservation. At some point, self-aware, autonomous sex bots will inevitably start campaigning for rights, imo. If we're talking about a non-self-modifying AI script that responds to speech keywords with dirty talk and shaking its holes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 08:38 PM
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personally i believe women of the past were just as bad but had to pretend to be better. or they would be shamed or even stoned. Of course. It was socially acceptable for men to openly have expectations of the women they were looking to court in the past, and because women wanted men, they adhered to said expectations. And then feminism came along with this silly notion that women could still want men and expect them to do things like act chivalrously and protect and provide, but that expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 04:16 AM
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The character is one of those badass with a heart of gold types. He's on Suits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 07:20 PM
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Agree with this, so I'm not going to try to CYV... But with the addendum that people who take issue with the literal, factual truth of "awalt" are usually taking it to mean "all women are shit all the time"... which isn't what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 10:46 PM
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Women always like to say they made a sacrifice to be a mom (as if father's don't ever make sacrifices themselves), but with what you're saying, is it really a sacrifice, or just a trade-off? I certainly frame it as a trade-off. There's definitely some sacrifice involved, but I'm grateful to be able to make the choice that puts my family first every day. And if you expect at some point to be a mom or a wife, does that not change your professional incentives? For a lot of young women today, I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 04:57 PM
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I think you're overstating the premeditation of the thing. I think most women today grow up expecting to have jobs outside the home, and to have to make money. The prevailing narrative for young people is more the problem, I think -- you see it more and more with younger millennials. People largely chase passions and personal fulfillment over money (young men too). They may end up in blue-collar work after getting a degree in something useless because the reality that you can't pay your bills wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:45 PM
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I mean, it is literally true, but "like that" doesn't mean "insane, poorly-adjusted and irresponsible", necessarily. All women have female nature, period. AWALT. The degree and ways in which it manifests itself are going to be variable from individual to individual. But yeah, TRP often uses it as kind of a reminder to posters who come through the sub convinced they have a unicorn... like, you're good now but if you think she's not going to go rogue on feels at some point, you're deluding yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:39 PM
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I mean, it depends so much on the individual woman's temperament. I didn't suffer any long-term harm, either physical or emotional from my hoore-phase, but my experiences are hardly universal. I'm generally against people doing things that end up being self-destructive or harmful to others, so if a woman's sucking dicks at the bus stop for quarters in some fucked up effort to punish herself for being a bad person or whatever crazy shit's going on in her head, I'd class that as "A Bad Thing", but…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 07:09 PM
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Oh, well, women are all lying chad-fucking whores then. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 07:05 PM
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No and no. idc, do what you want... but also don't expect people not to judge you. If the judgement of others is a real problem for you, maybe you need to re-evaluate your priorities. (this is a general "you", btw -- not you specifically, OP)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 07:02 PM
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If you could do this to both sexes without risking any long-term consequences, sure, it'd be interesting to see how the other side functions. A little bump in hormones isn't going to give the full picture though, nor do we know for sure what the long-term effects of this kind of hormone-manipulation might be. But yeah, it's an interesting thought-experiment!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 07:00 PM
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I've managed not to blow up my relationship with a very masculine man, and managed to retain his interest despite the fact that he could definitely get better-looking women than me. There's definitely something to be said for not getting your panties in a "THAT'S DEMEANING" wad over meeting your partner's less politically correct needs. This relationship continues to be awesome and fulfilling 5 years in and we're expecting our second baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:58 PM
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I love abuse. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:55 PM
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Yeah I was mostly being sarcastic :D Anything short of like... slapping bitches up for folding your underwear wrong is apparently not allowed to be red pill. lol. Reading the TRP sub mostly makes my brain hurt, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:55 PM
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Women are only good for three things: cooking, cleaning, and vaginas. Show me your genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:53 PM
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Didn't you get the memo? Being nice to any woman ever for any reason is verboten by the red pill. Women are for negging and making you sammiches. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 02:51 AM
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1) RP, female, not married but LTR'd 2) My SO and our child(ren). Taking care of them and making them safe and happy and loved is my highest calling. 3) Yes! I won't lie, some days I get mired in my own neurosis and don't do as well as I could, but I'm always prepared to hop back in the saddle and do better tomorrow. 4) Probably something sciencey/philosophy-y in some form. If I didn't have my family I'd probably be working in academia. The interactions and intersection between like... ethics an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:05 PM
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Yep, agreed. She's arguably the "biggest celebrity" of the bunch. I get the pay disparity here. ... mind you I also understand and accept the reasons for the "gender pay gap" going the other way (fewer hours worked, career choices, focus on family and flexibility over earning potential). So there ya go.
/r/MensRights04/04/18 03:38 PM
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Yeah, fashion sense reads to me as super faggy. lol. I'd be rather put-off if my man took to wearing those dumb pointy-toed shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:30 PM
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Hit the gym. Get used to talking to women so that you're not awkward and you can be playful and funny instead of neurotic and anxious. Clothes and hair and personal grooming and shit probably wouldn't hurt, but it kinda depends what "niche" of women you want to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:26 AM
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I'm sure some RPers are obvious to some non-RPers. Humans are p good at rationalizations though. I'm sure people are quite happy to rationalize away "bad" behavior on the part of folks they're determined to be interested in... so ultimately it probably doesn't matter much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 06:34 PM
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Why care about anything? Why think about anything? ... it doesn't have to be an either/or. You can both be "out there" doing stuff, and debating stuff on the intertubes if that's the sort of passtime that tickles your particular fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 06:32 PM
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Hypoagency. When they feel like it's someone else's job to fix their shit, and they sit crippled waiting for the patriarchy to stop oppressing them so that they can do something worthwhile with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 02:17 PM
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Men who drink gasoline are super-sexy rebels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 05:11 AM
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You're talking about hypergamy in a place where it doesn't apply. Men who're worried about hypergamy are the ones who've invested in a woman and don't want her to branch-swing. Attractive young toy boys without a pot to piss in who're just looking to fuck are not that demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 06:21 AM
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Men who just want to fuck aren't concerned about hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 06:15 AM
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... it's just that a lot of men are reluctant to "marry down". It's almost like I said that. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 04:43 AM
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I think you're off the mark on what hypergamy is about. It's not necessarily about pursuing the man with the most money out of a need for resources -- it's about the woman feeling that she won't realistically be able to do any better than a given man -- whether she regards that man as being out of her league/better than her. In that respect, I think feminism actually enhances hypergamy. With women making more money, I think we're seeing them become pickier about their partners. For a female mill…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 04:42 AM
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Depends on the value system of each partner. All hypergamy requires is that the woman regard the man as better than her in some dimension(s) that she values.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 04:37 AM
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He's living the dream. If a man can be happy "marrying down" and the woman feels she pulled out of her league, the shit-testing and risks of branch-swinging on her part are minimized. ... it's just that a lot of men are reluctant to "marry down". Which isn't necessarily a bad thing-- it's just another choice to make with its own set of pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:49 AM
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I think men do a lot of projecting of male attraction on women. It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:39 AM
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Mmm... Yeah, I dispute afbb insofar as the male theories about the internal lives and feels of women are totally wrong, but I'm pretty red. I don't dispute awalt at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:33 AM
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No you've got it all wrong. Women hate beta men and just get with them to exploit their resources so they can divorce rape them and shack up with Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:31 AM
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Nope. My sexual tastes are pretty well-established at this point in my life. It's just that I'm more invested in making him happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:26 AM
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How does a man reliably make his woman give up weka anal? I'm not sure I can give you a good answer to that question. I've tried like 6 times to articulate this. Hopefully it goes better this time. lol. Bottom line is, yes, it totally influences behavior in the bedroom... which I don't think is surprising to anyone. I think women are fundamentally mostly bad at being "the boss" -- in relationships and outside of them, and I'm no exception. I was not good at being giving without resentment with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:59 PM
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So basically, you're going to take what I said and deliberately mischaracterize it so it suits your salty faggot world-view. Wow. Well, I'm glad for you. Really so. Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:28 PM
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Pretty much. Left to my own devices I pick more nurturing, emotionally-open men. My current SO pursued me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 07:42 PM
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All the "toxic masculinity" traits. Stoicism, competitiveness, a willingness to escalate physically, low inhibition... these all read as "masculine" to me. If my dating history is any indication I actually prefer more feminine-brained men, but those relationships just don't work in the long-term, because I tend to dominate and lose respect for them. My current partner's masculine energy makes me insane sometimes (I'm very risk-averse... he's very not, and quite impulsive. It causes anxiety) but …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 07:30 PM
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I don't see any cognitive dissonance there. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. A person can be powerful, capable and independent and still have their rights stripped. You don't see how ridiculous "WE ARE POWERFUL WIMMINS! But we can't do the things we want to do until men hand us power so we can be CEOs and stuff" is? Relying on someone else to hand you opportunities you haven't earned on account of your bleating about it sounds like the opposite of "powerful" to me. Sure, but is it rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 06:51 PM
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I'm just not interested in any movement that encourages adults not to take responsibility for their own shit... and I have a particular dislike for hypocrisy, so the cognitive dissonance involved in "women are powerful and capable and independent!" vs "MEN KEEP OUR RIGHTS FROM US!!!" is like... distasteful as fuck to me. They're also totally out of touch with reality. Like, there is no blanket "male privilege". You get pros and cons to maleness, just like femaleness. That you cannot grant women …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 04:37 PM
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Q4Women: Is your "type" anything other than fit? Why? My "type" is lanky. That can be "fit" or just skinny. Bulky muscle doesn't really do anything for me either way. That said, as long as his physical self isn't a hard no up front, men who aren't my "type" can certainly sway me with charm or humour or intellect. I've been with and had enthusiastic sex with lots of men who didn't really register in my lizard brain on first inspection. idk "why" this is. It's just what my lizard brain likes :D Q4…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:40 PM
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Totally agree -- I like OP's description too. Sexual attraction for me is a lot more subtle than "I LIKE HIS BODY, I WANT HIS DICK IN MY MOUTH NOW" (unless I'm already in the mood independently, which happens very rarely these days). It's more like... intrigue, like a "yes, please seduce me".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:35 PM
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These are "beta comfort" traits, imo... and most women NEED them to sustain a long-term relationship in which she's comfortable being vulnerable with her partner. They just don't inspire lust. A lot of RP dudes would point to this as evidence that she ONLY wants to fuck alpha dudes, and that women are incapable of love and that they lie about what they want in LTRs, but I think that's because they're looking at female attraction and love through a lens of it being defective male love/attraction.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:31 PM
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They want her feminine when they want their way. They just want the sex part to be manbrained. Otherwise she should be deferential and sweet. Oh and only manbrained and sexual for them -- if she's fucking other dudes she's basically a leper.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:16 PM
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inb4 SHE'S ONLY WET FOR CHAD, WOMEN ARE DISLOYAL WHORES
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:07 PM
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I feel like I'm sex-positive in that I'm like... sex-indifferent? Don't exploit people-- that's naughty, but apart from that, go hard. Do whatever sex things you want to do. ... I also am not anti-judgement of people for their sex choices, I guess. Go ahead and judge whomever for whatever, idc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:01 PM
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Little does he know that he's had the gynocentric wool pulled over his eyes and women only give up the butthole to free-thinking MGTOW mavericks. Dang. Guess his only option is to grin and bear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 04:01 PM
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Maybe he FELT forced to read it. Assuming he has a penis that totally makes his choice to read it my fault, because gynocentrism or something, right? He was compelled by all of those machiavellian snatch machinations such that his free will was erased, even though reading these posts clearly turned out to be a raw deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 03:58 PM
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Maybe if you learned to English moar you could figure out some reliable way to cater to his tragic bag-of-wet-turds reading comprehension level. Only dumb princess snowflakes use things like analogies... and also apparently plain-speech explanations of motivation. Stop being so unintelligent!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 03:56 PM
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My mission is to serve my SO and my family in whatever capacity that requires. I quite enjoy it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:47 PM
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Women are the choosers and the gatekeepers, which actually does make them privileged in that situation. If they don't let you in, you don't get in. Women don't require any kind of personal responsibility because they get to select regardless. I mean, I could again relate this to the feminist notion that men have all the economic and political power and therefore are privileged and therefore women are oppressed and so their freedom of choice doesn't count and blablabla... but I suspect it'd proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:50 PM
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Yep, but a lot of men either feel they don't have a choice (because babies have to come from somewhere) or they've been tricked into thinking otherwise by a gynocentric society So feels before reals then. The fact that a person can make choices to change the course of his/her life is invalidated if he/she FEELS that he/she has no choice... But this abdication of personal responsibility for one's own shit only applies to men, because women are a privileged class. It's almost like I've heard and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:41 PM
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You're a woman, people will back you up regardless Stop arguing with me then. I have tits. Defer to my gynocentric privilege, you misogynistic shitlord. Buying something overpriced still gives you the thing you want, you just paid a lot more for it than it was likely worth and that you wanted to. That doesn't erase the inalienable FACT that it was YOUR choice to buy it. Those consequences are on your head. And that woman will demand her man be even more successful than her, making her still a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 04:41 PM
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Because it still didn't make sense what you were even responding to. I took a poll -- you're in the minority there. I think most people still want children. If someone wants something enough, they will take a bad deal just to get it. Then clearly the deal isn't that bad, for the potential benefits. They pretty much are if they want children or even just a girlfriend ;) Women are forced to give up their free time and their lives to get STEM degrees and work 100 hour weeks if they want to be CEOs!…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 04:31 PM
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What doesn't, the thing you said or the thing I said? Who are you compared to feminists? And onwards. You said something that didn't say anything specific. The first part that you omitted from the context/didn't read where I reference adults being "poor sad victims of their own choices" (which was sarcastic in case it slipped by you) answers that part. So men have to grin and bear being ripped off badly if they actually want something from women in general If men actually regarded relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 04:19 PM
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Uh huh. Maybe it's your English-reading that needs work? Men and women alike are free to weigh the potential costs and benefits of choices they have to make and err on whichever side they decide offers the "better deal", period. There are going to be downsides to any choice an individual makes -- this isn't a bug, it's a feature of being an independent adult with free will. Women choose careers that pay less, on average, than the careers that men choose for reasons that include individual intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:59 PM
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