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Red Pill TheoryLive_it_up_321/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 11:29 PM
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Field ReportLive_it_up_321/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 05:57 PM
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Blue Pill ExampleLive_it_up_321/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 04:33 PM
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Red Pill TheoryLive_it_up_321/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 07:24 PM
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Field ReportLive_it_up_321/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 05:36 PM
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Take it from a guy who's been alive and meeting women for a good amount of time – even unicorns are relatively plentiful.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/17 12:45 AM
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That's a high SMV woman for you. At least most of them. She'll miraculously learn manners in about ten years though haha.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/17 12:08 AM
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Married for several years, now divorced. Among the many reasons why I wanted a divorce: I was finding it increasingly hard to resist the temptation of other women. Now I'm dating again and holy shit. So much pussy. No regrets.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/17 11:28 PM
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The reason could certainly be UrsusG's point #1, but I want to posit another potential theory, which isn't necessarily mutually exclusive to the fuckboi reason. It may have been the picture of the chain and what you said. Unless you had a history of using that kind of humor without it bothering her her, she could have found it offensive, especially as a black woman. I've dated black women before, and sometimes they can be more sensitive about things like that than a non-black person might suspec…
/r/TheRedPill21/08/17 11:22 PM
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Nice post. My experience has been consistent with this. Started IF a little over a year ago and lost at least 15 lbs. of fat while putting on muscle (combined with weight training). I’m now below 10% body fat, boundless energy and mental clarity. Also, I’m in my late 30s but am constantly mistaken for someone in his late 20s / early 30s. Much of this is genetic – my mother always looked 10 years younger than she was – but no doubt IF has helped, if only from the leanness I’ve achieved. Most peop…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/17 05:56 PM
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Well yeah, as with anything, if you do it poorly or in an obvious attempt to impress, that could be "beta." But I'm talking about doing it well, and with abandon. If you are a good dancer and do it confidently, it's a downright chick magnet.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/17 06:51 PM
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How in the hell is dancing seen as "beta" activity? That's fucking absurd. I've gotten some of the hottest women through dancing. My only higher success rate was from when I used to play in a band.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/17 11:43 AM
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Bravo. Everything spot on, but especially this: You let that stand for itself, and the snowball rolls downhill, you build confidence, and become a better human that cares less and less about the approval of others, whether you are living in actual abundance or just trying to get there. Why? Because you are creating reasons to give yourself that approval instead - undeniable evidence of your awesomeness - which has nothing to do with the approval or lack thereof from others. If you are doing thin…
/r/TheRedPill07/08/17 01:02 AM
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See my other comments. I hate to repeat myself, but again, having perfect game and closing every girl I like are not the most important things to me. Nor should they be the most important things to any self-respecting man with a life and interests outside of fucking women. Believe it or not, yes I really did stop myself because I didn't want to be the asshole who steals the girl away from her boyfriend while they are out together. It's not just because I think it's shitty from an abstract moral …
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 10:23 PM
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Absolutely. I know it's been said a million times, but the prime objective really needs to be enjoying yourself, regardless of what happens.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 09:17 PM
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Well like I said before, bringing the girl home wasn't my overriding objective. It never is. In my experience, obsessing over whether I'm doing everything I can to close a girl just ruins my good time.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 09:03 PM
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Thank you. Yeah, I didn't realize every post had to contain multiple "lessons" to be worthwhile. Glad you didn't find it to be a waste of your time. I haven't taken dance classes, but I have good rhythm, am in tune with my body mechanics, and do it with absolutely zero self-consciousness because I love music deeply. I dance to pretty much anything, but due to the nature of most places, it tends to be some combination of hip-hop and Top 40 dance stuff. Sometimes I find a place that spins good reg…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 08:58 PM
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Hahaha, I don't know what's funnier, that you think I'm "blue," or that you're one of those pathetic TRP obsessives who thinks calling someone blue is a devastating insult. Anyway, you were free to ignore my post but you had to be a smart ass, so I gave you shit. There there, you'll be ok.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 08:20 PM
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Aww, no reason to be salty, sad man.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 08:09 PM
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Bingo. It's exclusively fuck buddies for me from now on.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 08:08 PM
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Women love comparing their men with each other. Or talking shit about their men with each other.> Absolutely. Can't tell you how many times I've overheard a group of women talking shit about their men, or discussing past boyfriends, how good/bad they were, etc. A couple weeks ago I overheard this one woman telling her friends that a mutual friend of theirs was marrying a guy she fucked (and of course the mutual friend doesn't know).
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 08:07 PM
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Late 30s. Never better.
/r/seduction02/08/17 11:39 AM
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Next
/r/seduction01/08/17 02:37 AM
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Everything is in the mind, from career to sports, to meeting women. I know when I’m feeling on top of the world, things just happen to go may way even more than they had been, including women. It’s kind of weird that way – when you lose, it’s easy to keep losing, but when you win, you just keep winning.
/r/seduction01/08/17 02:28 AM
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Being a good dancer also signals physical fitness, coordination, and most importantly, sexual prowess.
/r/seduction20/07/17 04:53 PM
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You absolutely shouldn’t lie about your age – 30 for a man is prime. As a man in his late 30s, I speak from experience, many women in their 20s actually prefer a man who’s at least a bit older, because so many “men” in their 20s are overgrown children with no ambition or money.
/r/seduction19/07/17 10:00 PM
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This can’t really be taught, because the signs are often subtle. Experience is the best teacher.
/r/seduction19/07/17 09:56 PM
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In general, it seems putting on muscle can be a bit trickier than cutting fat. With the latter, it's mostly just about fasting and controlling diet. With the former, you'll need to do intensive weight training, protein supplementation, etc. You can at least get built enough to have a physique most would describe as muscular to some extent - possibly within a few months if you work at it. Women don't often approach/initiate in the same sense a man would - it's just not typically what they do. But…
/r/seduction19/07/17 11:17 AM
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Not just luck. A lot of hard work too.
/r/seduction18/07/17 08:23 PM
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It makes a massive, massive difference. In the last couple years I shed a bunch of fat, down to below 10%, and built muscle. Not an obscene amount - somewhere between “ottermode” and “bodybuilder” - but now I look like an underwear model, no exaggeration whatsoever. And let me tell you, the difference is night and day. Especially when I’m at the pool or beach, I get constant expressions of interest from subtle to blatant, women of all ages and levels of attractiveness. And they really do treat y…
/r/seduction18/07/17 05:24 PM
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Absolutely true, every word.
/r/seduction18/07/17 05:17 PM
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I find that even on nights when I don’t feel like drinking, one or two light-alcohol beverages loosen me up just enough to take my interactions to the next level. But if one absolutely never drinks, whatever, just ask for a soda in the same type of glass in which they serve cocktails.
/r/seduction18/07/17 05:16 PM
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My most proud seduction experience was in fact the woman seducing me. She was a waitress, very very hot, and I was her customer. She kept dropping sexual innuendo, and at first I thought she was just playing around. Then she told me when she got off work, we exchanged numbers, and she came over and fucked me that night. This happened some time ago, before I discovered any sort of seduction techniques or mindset. Having had success with women for most of my life, I wasn’t a novice by any stretch,…
/r/seduction18/07/17 05:13 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with you, quite the contrary in fact. You are an empathetic human being, not a soulless PUA-like point-gatherer. Ultimately, people like you (and me) who actually feel things for women and people in general derive much more gratification from life than the ones who can easily pump and dump while feeling nothing but lust. The trick, however, is keeping these feelings from ruining your overall happiness. You need to reflect on what you’re feeling – don’t judge or try to suppr…
/r/seduction17/07/17 09:26 PM
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The key is to have a good balance of confidence on the one hand and vulnerability on the other. They are not mutually exclusive. Confidence is behaving moment-to-moment like you know your value and expect things to work out for you. It projects mostly through body language and other nonverbals. It also comes through in levity and humor, being comfortable in your own skin. Vulnerability is revealing things about your inner mind, your past, your desires. Showing your cards a bit, projecting emotio…
/r/seduction17/07/17 03:15 AM
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As a man in his late 30s I must correct you - he isn’t moving toward MILF age (although they are certainly an option). I can still land women in their 20s, and in fact many prefer a man my age. I have a good career, I know myself (and have the genuine confidence that comes with that), and I know how to read women and social situations due to my experience. Right now is , in many ways, the best time I’ve ever had dating.
/r/seduction17/07/17 03:09 AM
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Here’s the problem with every single piece of dating advice that centers on “rules” – every situation and every girl is at least a bit different, and one size never fits all. Rules generally are for people who lack the emotional intelligence to read a person and situation well enough to know what might work. Women are very good at signaling what they want a man to do, but of course it’s usually on the man to do it, and sometimes the woman’s cues are subtle. But they are there, and they matter. I…
/r/seduction17/07/17 03:04 AM
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The hot-crazy combo strikes again. I feel you, know how hard it is to do what your mind knows is best when your dick just WANTS.
/r/seduction14/07/17 05:51 PM
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Tons of women do yoga, that’s true, but be careful trying to pick them up there. It’s become almost cliche for guys to join a yoga program just to meet the girls there, and they know it. Besides, your entire mentality is off – too fixated on trying to do what you can to meet women. Instead, you need to pursue the activities and dreams you’re genuinely interested in (assuming at least some of them involve social contact lol), and if you are a happy and fulfilled person doing the things you actual…
/r/seduction14/07/17 03:31 PM
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Yes, often happens when at least one of the people is only in the area for the summer, or just part of it. Most common types are while during internships or beach vacations. Regarding the latter, odds go up significantly if you are at a party resort/area and also look good with your shirt off.
/r/seduction14/07/17 03:27 PM
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Wrote a very similar comment just now. Like minds.
/r/seduction14/07/17 03:24 PM
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Girls often refer to guys they find sexy as “cute,” so most likely this is not the problem you think it is. Also, if gay guys hit on you a lot, that most likely means you are also sexually attractive to women. Don’t worry about the label. Most women don’t refer to men as “sexy,” even when they are. They sometimes call them “hot,” but usually only with one another. Their general tendency not to want to overstate attraction to men while in the presence of men often causes them to avoid directly te…
/r/seduction14/07/17 03:24 PM
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Borderline personality disorder? That is dangerous territory, my fiend. Proceed with extreme caution.
/r/seduction14/07/17 03:18 PM
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Well obviously any man who reads this sub is interested in learning how to improve their ability to meet and attract women, and I suppose a non-negligible share of those men may be driven by an urge to put women on a pedestal, as you say. But speaking for myself and likely some significant amount of others, I definitely don’t overvalue a woman’s affection. I genuinely want to learn how to improve my odds, although I’m already fairly good at it.
/r/seduction07/07/17 12:20 PM
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Good points. A lot of this advice – the good advice, at least – really does come down to being a better person overall and having enough confidence, dignity, and poise not to get intimidated by a woman one likes. I ignore all the rules-based, PUA crap. It’s mostly useless. Except the observations based on scientific psychological study. I do think it’s useful to learn what women respond best to, such as the vocal tone and body language stuff. And not acting like a weenie.
/r/seduction07/07/17 12:16 PM
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Yeah, what too many guys don’t get (usually guys who don’t have much success/experience with women) is that they will never convince or trick a woman that isn’t attracted to them into becoming attracted to them. I know some women do warm to guys they initially weren’t really into, but that’s rare, and extremely hard to engineer consciously. Usually a guy’s attempts to change the woman’s mind just ended up coming across as pushy or desperate.
/r/seduction07/07/17 02:04 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction07/07/17 02:00 AM
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Sort of. The hardest part is genuine, un-faked confidence. Then from that owning it naturally flows, because you cease to worry about whether your bluntness will be misinterpreted. You just know it will work, assuming the girl was prone to liking you in the first place.
/r/seduction06/07/17 11:08 PM
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The trick is to be emotionally intelligent enough to read the subtext beneath the words. Body language and tone can radically change the meaning of a “no.” The vast majority of human communication is nonverbal anyway.
/r/seduction06/07/17 08:08 PM
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I do a slightly different form of this to great effect with women. A blend of nonverbal confidence combined with lighthearted meta-comments making a bit of fun of the things I’m doing and saying to win over my date. This approach has really worked for me. It seems to do two things: (1) puts the woman at ease by keeping the mood playful; (2) shows I’m confident enough not to take myself and my seduction techniques too seriously. But it wouldn’t work one bit if I didn’t also project a high degree …
/r/seduction06/07/17 08:04 PM
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Yup, lots of false starts and dead ends with online dating, that’s true in the US as well. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you hit gold. You just have to be resilient and keep adapting/improving. And do not, ever, show thirst.
/r/seduction05/07/17 03:37 AM
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Back when I used to do acid, I often noticed that not only was my perception different, but crazy unusual shit would happen to me. And yes, people (not just women) reacted differently. With women in particular I noticed the ones that had previously shown little to no interest in me would suddenly become very open and affectionate. Like cats when you come home high, they sense something is different about you almost psychically. The tragedy of it was often that I was tripping too hard to make goo…
/r/seduction05/07/17 03:26 AM
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Agree. I’m sub-10% body fat, and since I dropped the fat not only does my physique look better, but so does my face. Facial bone structure and eyes “pop” more, more angular and pronounced. There has been a striking difference in IOIs since I got cut, especially during summer months when I can wear fitting T-shirts and have my shirt off at the beach or pool. Helps also that I lift like an animal and have put on muscle as well. Not bodybuilder-jacked, but somewhere between that and “ottermode.”
/r/TheRedPill03/07/17 07:18 PM
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Before I grew a spine, I actually had a girl dump me and say, “But you’re so nice.” Yeah, fuck that.
/r/seduction30/06/17 05:32 PM
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Hahaha yes
/r/seduction28/06/17 07:20 PM
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Shoulda/coulda fucked her, but you probably had too much doubt and hesitation. Boyfriend is utterly inconsequential if she wants you. And girls don't just tease guys to that extent if they're not genuinely interested to some degree. I'd stay in touch just for the entertainment value. And if you happen to meet again (do NOT go out of your way), for fuck's sake fuck her.
/r/seduction27/06/17 07:28 PM
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It's not hard if you know how to dance generally. Just do it closer to them, make eye contact, smile or nod, get closer. Bumping and grinding is usually only ok in certain clubs – follow others' example. Usually the only contact you need is the occasional touch on her arm, shoulder, or hip. By that point, if we're definitely vibing, I'll ask if she wants to grab a drink/water, then chat her up and move in for a kiss if the opportunity presents. Back to dancing – if the girl is really into you an…
/r/seduction27/06/17 07:23 PM
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It's odd - I kill on OKC and get absolutely nothing on Tinder. Doesn't bother me - Tinder is annoying as fuck.
/r/seduction27/06/17 07:12 PM
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The sooner after you first sit down the better, but don't fixate on exactly when or it will come off forced. If you have enough emotional intelligence to sense an opportunity, and enough courage to do it before it passes, that's when. Just don't overthink. Act. Assume attraction, take comfort in the fact that she already agreed to chill with you one on one, so it's more likely than not that she'll be expecting you to make some kind of move. ETA: Eye contact can be a powerful tool here. At some p…
/r/seduction27/06/17 04:09 PM
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"Yeah, and?" I'm relatively short (5'8") and never respond to comments about my height with anything more than a shrug or a curt, don't-give-a-fuck answer. (Then again, I don't get this much, at least not from women. Men sometimes make comments, but almost invariably because they are feeling insecure themselves.) Joke responses are ok, I guess, but they need to be really good to work better than just not giving a shit. And I strongly advise against responding with anything hostile, even if said …
/r/seduction27/06/17 03:02 PM
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I wouldn't do this. Unless you're both obviously vibing already, you need an intermediate step. First you need to sit next to her and escalate bit by bit with touches to the arm and leg, etc.
/r/seduction27/06/17 01:48 PM
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One technique, which also displays confidence, is to beckon her closer to you. Catch her eye and gesture with your head or hand for her to get closer. If she doesn't, say, "Ok, I'll just move to you," and do it without hesitation or nervousness. Just like it's assumed that you guys are going to get close. The important thing is to show your cards early and force her to show hers. You can tell a lot from how she reacts to your telling her to move closer, or your moving closer to her. If she gets …
/r/seduction27/06/17 01:39 PM
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Find a spot at the bar, move your head to the music, enjoy yourself, and talk to the girls that come up for drinks. This is 90% of how I first pick up girls at clubs, not on the dance floor. I do dance a bit, but am also sure to work the bar when taking breaks. Then if I hit it off with a girl at the bar I take her to the dance floor and seal the deal. But the dancing is not essential.
/r/seduction27/06/17 01:31 PM
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That's true of life in general too. Social media and the Internet overall have gotten us so far from real life – the way we evolved to function – that it's no wonder so many people are miserable and unfulfilled.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/17 08:11 PM
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That's funny you think you're "kind of old." I'm 39 and have barely begun feeling like an actual adult.
/r/seduction26/06/17 08:05 PM
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You sound young. These sorts of "who am I and how should I act" dilemmas tend to go away with age and experience, so you can finally just be (with some fine-tuning here and there).
/r/seduction26/06/17 02:19 PM
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Perfect example. Of course, few actual humans can be that suave, charming, and unflappable, but it's something to strive for.
/r/seduction26/06/17 02:17 PM
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As a beginner, you have set your goal way, way too high. You are not going to pull a girl home every night, most likely not even every week. Start with a more modest goal and work up. Just try to get one girl to go on a date (an actual date) with you. Then try for another, etc. Possibly the most important point: you should not make meeting women such an overriding objective in your life. Women can sense that you are desperate for action. It will come through via "creep" vibes almost every single…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/17 01:18 PM
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I decided months ago to go full Mystery Man and delete all my social media. I use OKC but am sparing in what I put there – enough to build intrigue, but not so much that the women already think they know me before we've met. Also a lot of wry humor. I've found this vastly preferable to using social media not only because I'm no longer perpetually distracted by that bullshit, but also because I have greater freedom to see whom I want, when I want. Can't be stalked online, or have my friends list …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/17 12:41 PM
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I call that feeling alive.
/r/seduction26/06/17 03:28 AM
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I'm a man, and I've learned this from experience. If the woman has feelings for you too, expressing your own (and showing emotional vulnerability generally) can launch the relationship to the next level. But you don't want to overdo it. Match, but don't exceed, her expression of feels.
/r/seduction26/06/17 03:24 AM
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This is actually a good question, as energy level, gregariousness, and social pacing are crucial to meeting women and having charisma generally. The key is to be extroverted (initiate and sustain conversation) while also keeping a lid on hyperactivity and fast-talking. Be open and talkative, but slow down and keep your voice from going up. You want to be gregarious and friendly, yet solid. Eliminate nervousness from your presence. But also show flashes of emotional vulnerability. It's a delicate…
/r/seduction26/06/17 03:21 AM
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Become better.
/r/seduction26/06/17 03:16 AM
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I used to be the same. It went away with time and experience, realizing that I was far more attractive to women than I had thought.
/r/seduction26/06/17 03:15 AM
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Become a stripper and drive for Uber/Lyft. Only half kidding. I was talking to an Uber driver last time I was in Vegas, who also happened to be a stripper. He would mention to women riding in his car that he was a stripper, they'd hire him for a private show, then he would almost invariably fuck one. At least according to him, but from his look/vibe, I believed him.
/r/seduction23/06/17 05:56 PM
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Ask them on a date before saying bye.
/r/seduction23/06/17 05:40 PM
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I would have thought that initially because my experience with most strippers up to now is that if they catch one whiff of your being interested in them outside of work, they shut down. But yeah, I'm going into this with eyes wide open.
/r/seduction19/06/17 08:18 PM
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Absolutely agree with all that, especially the pursuing other girls part. I've actually been chatting up 4-5 others and keeping my options open. If my job didn't keep me so busy, I'd have gone further than that by now. And I'm definitely not showing too much outward excitement - if anything I'm playing it super cool. I even tell her about my other dates, but just casually.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/17 09:33 PM
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I agree that if it's been weeks, it's probably going nowhere. But it's only been a week, and I haven't been able to make much contact beyond texting since last Saturday. Hoping to score some drugs from her soon haha.
/r/seduction16/06/17 09:29 PM
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This exactly. She is super, super high-quality and gets bombarded by propositions all the time. In that respect, I'm treating her differently than I normally would a girl, but it's a risky gambit. We'll see...
/r/seduction16/06/17 09:28 PM
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This is all very good advice, and often very difficult to follow. Especially when you really, really like a girl. Here's a question I have that I'd like anyone (OP or otherwise) to weigh in on. I've seen it said both that you (1) should describe yourself as a "friend" to a girl early on in order to create some doubt in her mind and (2) should make your intentions clear from the start. With a girl I met recently, because she is an incredibly hot stripper and gets bombarded by dudes constantly, I …
/r/seduction14/06/17 06:29 PM
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You're totally right about what you said about strippers being "real people." In fact, this girl even said exactly that when I first asked her in the club if she wanted to go out dancing sometime. I don't remember what I said, but her reply was literally, "Strippers are people too!" Another part of this story: I actually hung out with her last weekend, but with two of her friends (one guy, one girl). We met up at an event that she had told me about, but I also think there was an element of wanti…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/17 06:08 PM
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I'm trying so hard not to talk myself out of this new girl's pants, but she is just so indescribably hot. She's a stripper, quite young, new to dancing, and down-to-earth in many surprising ways. In fact, I got her number while she was working. Texted her when I left "just so she had my info," and she texted me back within minutes, which was surprising. Anyway, I haven't dated a stripper since college, so I keep finding myself "justifying" my contact with her because she has men creeping on her …
/r/TheRedPill14/06/17 05:44 PM
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Substance aside, you're a great writer.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 03:59 AM
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Regarding bartenders, it depends on the place and how busy it is. If it's not insanely crowded and the bartenders are relatively friendly, they can be a good starting point for making new friends. Also, because of their high social standing in the bar/club setting, looking like you're friends with one can help tremendously with the ladies. (Plus, as happened with me last night, the bartender may even discount or give you free drinks if they like you.)
/r/TheRedPill03/06/17 07:57 PM
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Key is to talk and joke with everyone you see, even if not a sexual prospect. You can start with bartenders if necessary. I find it helps to have some kind of conversation with a friend or someone else just before going out or on my way there, to get the social part of my brain warmed up. Once you've started some kind of rapport with at least one person in the place, the out-on-limb feeling of being a lone wolf mostly falls away and you can just have fun. Plus, if nothing else, you might at leas…
/r/TheRedPill03/06/17 07:02 PM
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I'm going lone wolf from now on every time I can. It's liberating. Don't like the bar/club I'm at? I can just walk the fuck out. Also, as someone else here said, there's none of the awkwardness of friends (especially if any of them are women) seeing you work your game. Lone wolf forever.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/17 04:20 PM
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Want to second what you said about the increased likelihood of talking to and befriending other people. Absolutely true. When you're out with friends, it's all too easy to get caught up in them, or to be seen as unavailable for conversation by others.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/17 04:19 PM
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This is why a "temporary" wingman (wing-woman, better yet) is far superior, especially if they are older and not prone to see you as a threat or get jealous that you are interested in another girl. As happened with me last night, you can recruit a new friend to introduce you to a girl. She will have no idea you just met the new friend, and will interpret the interaction as social proof. I'm going to try this every time I go out now.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/17 04:17 PM
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Oh, I see what you mean now. I guess that's possible! That's the thing about perception – impossible to verify anything is real, because there's no other perception from which to judge one's own perception! TheMatrixIsReal
/r/TheRedPill28/05/17 03:05 PM
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No anterior pelvic tilt here. I'm not a powerlifting beefcake, built more like an MMA middleweight. The "antler" posture you described was pretty much how I was walking/standing. As I said in my post, I only felt like I was walking around like a bro trying to get into a fight because it was straighter than I usually carry myself.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 05:45 PM
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Who knew good posture was so powerful it could induce hallucinations of cute girls repeatedly looking straight at me.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 05:40 PM
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This is why I stopped going to places like that.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 05:38 PM
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Absolutely. Perhaps focus on making more consistent eye contact, or smiling with your eyes, keeping your head up, etc. The best body language in the world won't matter if your face looks nervous or unsure or depressed, whatever the case may be.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 01:56 AM
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One other thing. If you're interested in seated body language for seduction purposes, probably the number one thing you can do is sit next to her rather than across from her – such as when having dinner or drinks. Not really body language, per se, but spacial strategy. Sitting next to the girl increases physical proximity, which not only can enhance attraction, but also gives you more opportunities to touch her on the arm, the leg, etc., possibly even move in for a kiss when the moment strikes. …
/r/seduction26/05/17 01:42 AM
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Posture and body language are just part of a man's overall package of attractiveness – but more importantly, it doesn't sound like you have a basis with which to compare your naturally dominant presence and body language to how women (and people in general) would treat you if you seemed more timid and closed. And the thing about IOI's is that they can be very, very subtle. Often it's just a quick glance, then another glance, when there's no other reason why they're eyes might keep coming to you.…
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 01:27 AM
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Yeah, that guy crosses over into a form of brutish arrogance that would tend only to appeal to low-rent chicks. Or maybe I'm biased against his overall image in the movie.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 12:08 AM
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True from a metaphorical standpoint as well – evolve from a cowering fraction of your potential, into a proud and confident whole person.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 11:55 PM
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Like I said in another comment, it's all about looking (and feeling) open and unflinching to the world. Like you're prepared to face anything directly and fluidly, without trying to hide or shield yourself. Buoyancy is a big part of it too, not seeming heavy and ponderous, but nimble and energetic.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 11:53 PM
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Absolutely right. So much of what I was talking about in my post comes down to correcting this, keeping one's head upright and straight. But it's also about keeping one's gaze high, not looking down or away from people in a way that can come across as sheepish. I like to think of optimal posture and body language overall as essentially being open and unflinching to the world.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 11:50 PM
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See, that's how I thought it was coming across, until I glimpsed myself in a shop window. Then I realized I just looked bold and unafraid, but my prior habits made it feel internally to me like something more showy.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 11:34 PM
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True to an extent, but it also takes some conscious practice. Especially when it comes to keeping one's chin up and gaze high.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 11:31 PM
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Cheers. And posture, per se, really is just one component of overall body language, which studies have shown is vastly more important than verbal communication.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 11:30 PM
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Agree with all this, except to say that not only can you tease a girl, but you should. Just don't go overboard into downright meanness.
/r/seduction25/05/17 07:34 PM
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Was this translated from another language?
/r/seduction25/05/17 07:23 PM
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In my experience, you can't go wrong with giving minimal compliments, verbal expressions of affection, and gifts. Girls rarely decide to leave guys because they aren't getting enough of these things – if anything the opposite is true because giving too much of these communicates that you think she's too good for you. On the other hand, you need to make sure you're giving her enough physical affection. This type of affection is far, far more powerful than compliments or gifts. That includes not j…
/r/seduction25/05/17 07:19 PM
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I agree with the others – stick with the sure thing, which may partially explain the other girl's heightened interest (preselection), and reap the rewards of the resulting abundance mentality.
/r/seduction25/05/17 07:10 PM
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Confucius say. ;)
/r/seduction25/05/17 07:04 PM
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You're certainly welcome. There's a lot out there on body language generally, plus I've had professional training on it in a public speaking context.
/r/seduction25/05/17 06:58 PM
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Forward in your seat, back straight and arched. That's what's best for you in terms of physiology and also neuro-feedback to your mind. Alternatively, if you're more interested in projecting confidence/dominance than strictly good seated posture, you should lean back, chest open, arms out (to whatever degree is appropriate to the situation). In other words, you should take up space and make your body as open as possible. Don't fold your arms or put your hand to your neck or upper torso. This lat…
/r/seduction25/05/17 06:36 PM
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HAVE FUN.
/r/seduction25/05/17 06:17 PM
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You didn't say which approach you chose in that instance, just that there was a choice. Which did you go with, and what happened? I don't know much about the author of this presentation, but the playfulness thing is absolutely on-point. All my best "luck" with women has been when I was unabashedly playful and teased the girl. The tips about playful physical contact (pushing, etc.) are also true, but you have to be careful with this. If you take it too far, you will come across as a straight-up a…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/17 10:00 PM
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Citrulline or arginine supplements can help as well. Clinical research backs this up, as does my own personal experience. Either amino acid is also good for lowering blood pressure and improving athletic performance (take about an hour before your workout).
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 07:44 PM
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Yes, ottermode for the win. Pack on just a bit more muscle in the right places and it's pussy kryptonite.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 05:01 PM
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Watch out when the 18-year-old wakes up to her hotness. Easy to say now you can next easily, but premium pussy is like a drug you don't realize you need until it's gone.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 04:59 PM
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Thanks for sharing. You look strong as hell by the way, the way you whip that guy around at 1:20. I used to train in judo and have always been very strong for my size, and one of the things that held me back from improving my technique for a while was that I could toss opponents around like that with brute force. Finally woke up to my problem when a scrappy, skinny kid reversed on me at a tournament and nearly pinned me. Not saying that's the case with you, just sharing.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 04:56 PM
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A few weeks ago a decent-looking woman came up to me beside the bar, being all flirty, bumping into me, etc. I flirted back but didn't offer shit. She left, then came back, asked me what I was drinking. Beer. She said "boring." "Oh yeah, what's exciting?" She said something about a shot. I shrugged. She "offered" to buy a round for me and my friend. I said ok why not. After some awkward looking around, she walked away. Fuck off, parasite.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 04:41 PM
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It's really not that complicated – the primary factor is confidence. You can be an intelligent, "good" person with a lot going on and still get women as long as you are confident and not an insecure, mealy-mouthed worm. "Good guys" vs. "bad boys" is just a proxy for insecure vs. confident. One thing I agree with about your post is that good guys vs. bad boys is a superficial and immature way of categorizing people (or one's self). One of the great things about getting older is realizing you don'…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/17 09:07 PM
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Or just skip breakfast and any snacks before lunch/after dinner. Only eat from lunch to dinner, within an 8-hour timeframe. That's one of the most popular, most effective, and least difficult forms of IF.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 06:14 PM
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You're simply incorrect that this is the only means to guaranteed, quick weight loss. I cut a significant amount of fat, and no muscle, within a couple months of starting a daily 16:8 intermittent fasting regimen. No excessive eating. It can also be accomplished by regular 24-hour (or longer) fasts, or a different ratio of daily eating/fasting periods, as long as the fast is for longer than 12 hours. Longer fasting windows produce greater and quicker results.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 06:11 PM
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Plenty of people can restrict calories long-term, myself included. 16:8 intermittent fast is the key.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 06:07 PM
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All of this has been true in my experience. Consistently doing 8:16 IF has been one of the best decisions I've ever made.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 06:05 PM
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Plus, music has inherent sex appeal. Most types, anyway.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 05:36 PM
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"When not in a state of total war" – that's a pretty major thing to just blithely set aside. Anyway, obviously we fundamentally disagree and neither of us is going to change the other's mind.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 05:33 PM
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In that case, Afghanistan must be the apotheosis of civilization in your view, and Scandinavian countries must be third-world hell holes. In advance: these are not exceptions, but the rather indisputable norm among the two extremes you describe.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 12:12 AM
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Bingo. This is by far the biggest factor.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/17 11:59 PM
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Quite a few "explanations" offered in these comments reek rather powerfully of delusional bitterness toward women, to a point that's actually laughable. Look, I get that TRP is (at least partly) about not worshipping women as intrinsically better than men, but you gotta let the resentment go, gents. It's hurting you far more than it's hurting them.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/17 04:40 PM
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Good plan. One thing you might try is the occasional 24-hour fast. Start once a month, then try once every other week. Do a HIIT workout at some point in the second half of the fast, when it works best for your schedule. Once you break through the hunger and initial weakness, the feeling is absolutely amazing, and even better the next day(s), once you've eaten and rested so your body has a chance to put all that nutrition to optimum use and everything is running super clean. Fasting + HIIT truly…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 01:49 AM
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Fasting of some sort is always my first recommendation to anyone who wants to lose fat and generally be healthier and more energetic. The best option, IMO, is some form of intermittent fasting, a six-to-eight hour eating window much like what you do. It induces ketosis, which has many health/longevity benefits besides fat reduction, and can even slow brain degradation and aging. Plus, fasting is a far more healthy means to achieve ketosis than a keto diet, which is known to have various risks (a…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 01:04 AM
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This is false. I don't have it at my fingertips, but there's been at least one study that showed white women are more intent on having a boyfriend/sexual partner/whatever of their own race than white men or women of other races are.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 12:47 AM
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Because they think it reflects high status, like a luxury car.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 12:29 AM
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Heartily seconded. Mixed race girls (of nearly any combo) are particularly delicious, and in a way that's so much more interesting than Blonde Brittany. Some of the hottest – I mean hottest – women I've ever met have been some mixture of white and black. ETA: There's also something to be said for girls who have lived in the city (any big or medium-big city) for a while. They tend to have better style, better education, and better exercise and eating habits (less likely to be overweight). I live …
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 12:12 AM
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It's not about aggressively pursuing every single woman (or every single hot woman). That's not my goal whatsoever. It's about what my reaction to this particular woman taught me about myself.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/17 01:06 PM
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Depends on how you define "truly" confident. I could cease to care about people at all, in which case I'm sure I'd have complete and total confidence because who gives a shit what anyone thinks. But I'd also be a sociopath or a hermit, neither of which I strive to be.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/17 01:05 PM
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The hobby aspect of it is for me. Playing music has always been one of the greatest pleasures in my life (well beyond sex, in all honesty). And regarding women, it's pretty indisputable that girls like musicians. At least the young ones do.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/17 01:04 PM
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Yes to all this. Attraction is primal. Sure, it's more than just physical, but a lot of it is indeed physical, and the portion that isn't physical is still overwhelmingly nonverbal (body language, for example). As you said in your post, girls know whether they would – and I use that word advisedly – would sleep with you within seconds of seeing you for the first time. Regarding my use of the word "would," keep in mind the first impression is little more than creating potential. Unless you're dea…
/r/TheRedPill23/04/17 05:43 PM
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Definitely. I've noticed on the days that I'm more sociable to people overall, it's much easier to chat up random girls in public. Of course this has been noted many times in this forum, but I've found it to be true in my personal experience as well. I think on the whole I just need to be more gregarious than I have been lately. I go through phases where I'll be super energetic and chatty with all kinds of people, then I'll go back to a more reticent, serious mode for a few weeks. Time to reenga…
/r/TheRedPill23/04/17 12:15 AM
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This somewhat reminds me of the times I've done ecstasy in social settings. While it didn't make me the "awkward guy" described here, it definitely made me engage more people (both men and women) in an open and fearless way. And I swear, they could really feel the vibe, because I was like a hookup superhero during those times. I gotta get my hands on some molly again sometime. Don't want to use it as a crutch, but it would be nice to be the human manifestation of unbridled love like that once or…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 11:26 PM
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There are two types of "player," in women's eyes. The first type is good at it and pulls it off in a way that seems natural. With this type, girls might see him as a player, but they will still want to get with him. In fact, they will be more drawn to this kind of player than an "average" good-looking guy. The second type of player does not pull it off well, or naturally. He is overly aggressive and his mind seems constantly to be on sex. While he will probably have better luck with women than m…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 11:21 PM
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Late thirties. I have no trouble holding conversation with strangers and am pretty socially adept. This is specifically about fearlessly reciprocating IOIs from exceptionally beautiful women.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 10:29 PM
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This is actually a good suggestion. Hit on hot girls with the mindset that I'm not actually trying to pick them up, just teasing. That could be the trick to overcoming fear of rejection, as I can't be disappointed if I never really expected to get their number or hook up, and if it works I can always change my mind and go for the kill. Overall, that mentality is how to do it. To go into situations without any expectations, just looking to have fun. But that's so much easier said than done, espec…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 03:21 PM
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I've never really been able to pull off the full asshole thing, except when I'm already in that mental state. Something inside me just holds me back from it, some lingering moral compass, haha. But during the few times I was naturally feeling and acting like a bit of an asshole, yeah, I have noticed my luck with women improved. Funny, that.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 03:17 PM
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I've been thinking about getting back into music. Playing in a band is not only a great hobby, but if you play gigs, it skyrockets your SMV. Getting girls when I was playing in a band in college was so easy I never really developed game.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 03:15 PM
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Good suggestion. When I'm feeling good, my best technique tends to be good-natured sarcasm and playfulness, usually in a bar setting. I hang by the bar and make little remarks to the girls that come up for drinks. Nothing mean – I don't neg, not just because it's douchey, but because girls have learned to spot it as a tactic – but am just sort of witty and wry in a way that shows I'm self-assured and not pedestalizing them. But that's a lot easier to do in a social setting than in passerby situa…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 03:13 PM
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I definitely hear you about the zones, and I have them as well, for additional complicated reasons I can't describe right now. But JESUS CHRIST MY LIBIDO.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 07:23 AM
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All true, but let me be clear: I'm no Chad. I'm not tall enough to be a "true" Chad.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 07:13 AM
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I get that. For me, the hardest part is always the initial hook. Once I feel like I've captured a girl's initial interest (beyond just their signals toward me, but actual engagement), I usually don't have much trouble going in for the kill. And what's interesting is that this is indicative of my overall problem. I need the go-ahead of a girl unequivocally signaling she likes me. Before that, if she's hot enough, I'll often doubt myself too much to take a risk. But once I've got that validation, …
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 06:35 AM
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Like I said in my post, I don't generally have difficulty with women, or self-confidence. 7s have always been within reach, and the occasional 8 or 9. But I still freeze up when an exceptionally hot girl shows interest out of nowhere. It's like I don't believe it. It's like others have said, I need to get loose, out of my head. Lately I've forgotten to just have fun and roll with shit. It's ironic, the intense discipline it takes to get into great shape and look good can also very easily backfir…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 06:25 AM
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Exactly. I need to shake it.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 12:38 AM
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I'll def check it out. Heading out for a night on the town to try to correct my mistake...
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 12:38 AM
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Homosexuality may not even be genetic in the strictest sense. It could be the product of epigenetics, meaning environmental influences on gene expression – conditions in the womb, for example. If that's the case, it cannot "die off" due to selection, unless of course any epigenetic causes were one day identified and systematically prevented. And that's nowhere on the current horizon.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 06:44 PM
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Well of course human behavior, which stems from human willingness to engage in that behavior, can alter brain and body physiology. But that just begs the question of what electrochemical impulses and other physical dynamics in the brain were behind the idea and willingness to engage in the behavior in the first place. For example, take a schizophrenic man. In a moment of clarity, he checks himself into a mental health facility and asks for medication. The doctors give him antipsychotics and he t…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 01:49 PM
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This is all very true and well put, but despite what you say, it establishes that the mind and the body are not separate. You do mention that the brain is an indivisible part of the body, but the mind is nothing more than the activity of the brain (and other parts of the nervous system, including the gut, as shown by recent research). Perhaps this is a minor point, as the rest of what you said was spot on and doesn't contradict it, but I wanted to emphasize it because it's essential to understan…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/17 10:31 PM
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Your powers of perception are so strong you know multiple anonymous strangers' powers of perception better than themselves! Great Master, I am truly impressed. What was that you said about bragging again?
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 09:18 PM
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Yes. It really is at least 75% believing you are desirable and worth it, and projecting and acting upon that belief.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 09:15 PM
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Don't pussyfoot your way around when talking to women and trying to ask her out. Women aren't stupid, they know when a man is into them and yet still refuses to act properly upon that. She will view you as a coward. This times a million.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 09:13 PM
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STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND TALK TO HER. If there's chemistry and you aren't a complete social idiot, the connection should strengthen to the point where you can physically escalate, first by casually touching her arm while talking, then moving in closer, then perhaps a kiss (if the moment is right) or at least a number exchange and meetup later.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 09:10 PM
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This deserves its own post. Exceptionally well-written and illustrative of a tendency just about every young man (and some not so young) has been through. Excellent point about the importance of not undervaluing yourself and failing to recognize a genuine prospect even when she practically begs you to take action. Reminded me of so many of my own experiences in my teens and early twenties. Sure, I still scored with girls, but I flat-out suppressed just as many other opportunities out of sheer su…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 09:05 PM
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Yes, absolutely anything is possible for men in the top .1% of SMV (top tier celebrities in particular), regardless of age. Did you see Mel Gibson's latest arm candy at the Oscars last night? Jesus H. Christ.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 06:24 PM
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Thanks for sharing, but plenty of others seem to have gotten the intent of my post.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 06:16 PM
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Not sure about 70, but certainly possible in his 60s. But damn does he need to be rich and have "cool" connections, friends, and lifestyle. Preferably yacht rides off the coast of Ibiza, a high-level position in the entertainment world, etc. The more glamorous the better. Never, ever underestimate how much young, hot girls love posting Instagram pics of themselves doing luxurious and exciting shit with high-status people.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 06:14 PM
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For me, honestly, it was pretty simple. As I said, I just started a strict 16-8 intermittent fasting regimen, never a "cheat day" (except maybe once or twice a month I'll break my fast at most 1 hour early). If you don't go too crazy with food during the eating window, in addition to the metabolic/mitochondrial benefits of the fasting, you end up eating fewer overall calories per day, which when combined with high intensity interval training can help you cut. Throw in an additional one or two da…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 05:38 AM
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Ah yes, "trying too hard," the signature accusation of the terminally mediocre. Don't worry about me, sweetheart. I'm about as happy and fulfilled as it gets. Enough so that I don't feel compelled to troll other people's posts with blatantly insecure anger!
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 11:41 PM
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20 is still extremely young. If you're anything like I was, you probably still haven't reached your peak strength/size potential. Going hard with lifting isn't necessarily about breaking a sweat, at least not with smaller muscle groups. As you suggested, biceps are a smaller muscle group, so working them hard might not even elevate your heart rate. Intensity in lifting is simply about pushing the given muscle group to failure, whether from high reps or high weight (while avoiding pulls, of cours…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 08:32 PM
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This man gets it. Professional MMA fighters in these weight classes generally have the ideal body type for female attraction. It's no coincidence, either – these guys train for hand-to-hand combat with other men (practical strength and speed), and women probably respond to that on a subconscious, evolutionary level. What's the evolutionary niche for a bloated, silverback gorilla-like roid monster? How useful to the tribe, really, was a big, slow titan in prehistoric times? Elite warriors back th…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 08:20 PM
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Exactly. And needless to say, she fell off the pedestal rather abruptly after I found out what she had done. Which is not to say I don't think women have as much a right as men do to have one night stands with questionable people, just that my illusion of her as being somehow "better than that" was instantly shattered.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 07:35 PM
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Last reply before I need to get out of the house. Yes, fighting hunger can be tough, especially in the last hour or two of the 16-hour fast. I fight it by drinking water and coffee (not to excess, just a cup when hunger begins), and by staying busy with work to keep my mind off it. [Edit: R-Lipoic acid also has proven appetite-suppressant, weight loss effects.] It gets easier with time, as your body learns to accept a certain level of hunger, which sometimes even passes on its own. That, I belie…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:52 PM
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I understand this complaint. It has seemed like that to me too, and I was a bit hesitant to write this post for fear of sounding like I was bragging. But people can learn from others' successes (and failures), and I thought there was enough to learn from my example to make it worthwhile. In retrospect, I probably could have made it more concise, but nobody's perfect.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:21 PM
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Both depending on my schedule. Because I hate working out early in the morning, I'm usually off to work during my fasting period, then work out when I get home. On weekends, I'll sometimes work out before my fast is done (before lunch), but this is generally the exception. I've also noticed that when I work out during my fast, my performance takes a marginal hit. But I've heard of people cutting fat much more rapidly by working out during a fast, if that's your goal.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:17 PM
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Let me ask, how old are you, and when you do pushups and/or dumbbells, do you see some degree of results within a month? What I'm getting at is how your body responds to resistance training – a friend of mine has always been sinewy and lanky, like a young Mick Jagger. He would lift weights and eat like a monster for months and only put on a little bit of muscle on his arms. Don't get me wrong, he looked good, but he could never get jacked no matter what he did (all natural, no steroids). If you,…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:47 PM
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Kudos to this delicious turn of phrase.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:33 PM
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Haha, so true. A girl who's a 6 at best can feel like a 9 just by adopting "nerd" hobbies and swimming in those circles. She will have an entire constellation of saucer-eyed orbiters in the time it takes to put on her cosplay outfit and makeup.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:32 PM
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Exactly. This whole trend now to look stereotypically "masculine" (late 1800s beard, tattoos, piercings, etc.) is so absurd – half the guys I see trying to pull it off are skinny, obsessively grooming little shits who don't look like they've been in a single fight in their lives. They also never seem to have any fun, because as CuriousBeacon said, they're too busy trying to seem cool and above it all to let loose. Every hipster watering hole I've been to has been a total fucking drag. On the ups…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:29 PM
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Very insightful, thank you. I think I've seen one or more of those studies, and that makes sense. What you said about the super-feminist chicks was really interesting too. You may be on to something. Thanks for such a substantive and thoughtful comment. And oh yes, I am always sure to wear a rubber, even though that means it sometimes takes me forever to cum, even with a hot girl.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 03:47 PM
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Intermittent fasting did the trick for me. 8-hour eating window from lunch to dinner, then a 16-hour fast until lunch the next day. It takes discipline, but the effects on fat loss and overall health are significant, in my experience. No matter how fit I ever got, I always had trouble losing that last bit of padding around my waist, and couldn't get enough definition in my pecs. The fasting burned that shit away for the first time in my life and even my face looks different. Not emaciated, but j…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 03:33 PM
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5'8". Never used steroids. I'm not jacked, per se, just athletic and lean. In fairness, I've done resistance training of some sort for most of my life and this didn't come overnight. I've also generally never had a problem putting on muscle, although I do work hard to get it. What put me over the top more recently was intermittent fasting (for cutting), high-weight resistance training, and HIIT running. I go really hard, every time, and I never rest more than 2 days. If you want to build mass wi…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 03:27 PM
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Here's an irony for you. Know what makes me feel good about myself? When random people angrily proclaim that my accurate description of myself is too good to be true without "evidence." One last time: I don't care one bit if you don't believe me. And why is that? Because I didn't post fantasy in hopes of people falling for it. That's the last I'll say on this. If I were you, I'd spend a bit more of this wasted time and energy working on whatever is clearly eating you up inside enough to bitterly…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:43 AM
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Your impotent rage is adorable.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:24 AM
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I partied my ass off (drinking, drugs, everything) during my 20s and am in amazing shape/health now in my late 30s. The key is to keep working out and eating relatively ok through the partying. I never dropped the habit of weights and cardio no matter how many Fridays I got black-out drunk, how many bong hits I took, or how many lines I snorted. The human body has an amazing ability to restore itself when you trick it through exercise into thinking it's still needed to hunt prey and kill enemies…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:16 AM
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Haha, yes, this is all so true. I'll note that we see a similar motivation at least from many beta men, albeit often with far less success. You know, the guys whose depth, intellect, and emotional range supposedly make them "better" than their dumber, better-looking brethren, and when that doesn't result in greater female interest, the Whole Goddamn Universe is at fault for not adhering to their expectations of sexual justice. Anyway, back to the "cool girls." Back in early college, before I lea…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 05:07 AM
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Yeah, I don't want to make it sound like a dude has to be shredded to get girls. I've known plenty of guys who did very well with ladies despite a "dad bod," or burly bear body, or whatever. One guy I knew was ugly and shlubby as hell and yet managed to land the hottest girls. So many things can tip a girl to attraction – and an astonishing amount of it also depends on pure context and timing. Or things like the "social SMV" of rugby players, bartenders, whatever. Work whatever it is you've got.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:42 AM
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Look, I get it – if I were you, I'd have my suspicions too. But if you can't understand why someone might not want to post a pic of his body online for any and all to see – headless or not – I really don't know what else to say. In the end, it doesn't really matter to me whether you or even most people here believe me. I'm sharing my story and what I've learned from it, and for the people who believe me, they'll get my intended meaning. For the people who don't, they're free to disregard my post…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 04:26 AM
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Dude, you can't get someone you know or a trainer to give you feedback? I'd rather not get body pics of random dudes from Internet forums. Anyway, good luck. And wtf is up with your Reddit handle?
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 03:15 AM
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I'd prefer not to, sorry dude. I don't even text girls pics of myself. One never, ever knows where this shit can end up. Regarding approaching women at the gym – I don't, unless I see a particular one repeatedly and she consistently looks my way. When I work out I'm completely absorbed by it and often have a very intense look on my face. I'm there to tear myself up, not hit on chicks, unless they're easy pickings, and even then I find it hard to break from the fitness trance. I save game for goi…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 01:22 AM
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Yup yup yup – as a somewhat short but otherwise appealing guy, I can vouch for the fact that a lot of women will overlook (ha) the height thing if the other factors are solid. I wouldn't call myself a Chad though. Probably the biggest difference between him and me is that I'm not a bartender. I swear, bartenders (of either sex) get an automatic +2 or 3 to SMV score, for reasons I don't have time to explore. Almost every male bartender I've spoken to, even the ones with so-so looks, has regaled m…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/17 12:18 AM
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For a variety of reasons (which I may write about in a future post), I'm super-cautious about anonymity. Sorry, can't provide even a pic without my face, not a risk I'm willing to take – the internet is forever, after all. I'm 5'8", 150 pounds (like I said, very lean, but not skinny by any stretch), late thirties. I'm not exaggerating when I say I look like a CK underwear model. In fact, people have straight up told me I could be a model if I were taller. I'm not bald, but my hair is thinning a …
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 11:28 PM
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Sorry to disappoint, but no, I'm actually pretty well above average in the face department too. I think there's just something animalistic that gets triggered in women when they see a fit body along with the nice face. Really, one of my only shortcomings (literally) in the physical SMV department is height. I'm not short enough for it to cancel out my other attributes, but short enough not to slay just about every woman I encounter with minimal effort. But I get plenty of IOIs with my shirt on. …
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 10:59 PM
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Abso-fucking-lutely. I love that phrase, "giver of pleasure." That's been my precise mentality for years, even if I've never found those precise words. It's also the perfect means of lovemaking. Fewer things are more satisfying to me than bringing a woman to peak ecstasy, and often they can sense that before I've even touched them.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 10:14 PM
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Good on you. No man should do anything solely for the pussy. It's a lesson I've yet to learn. Funny what you said about destroying skinny-fat younger guys in the gym. Same here. Present-day me could easily kick 25-year-old me's ass. He would have deserved it too, haha.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 09:09 PM
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Sometimes I wish I had gotten to acting For the pussy alone. Or stayed with music (same reason).
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 08:18 PM
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Awesome. Way to go, man. Your mentioning the acting roles you get is interesting and reminds me – in film and TV, oftentimes even the crackhead and lowlife roles must be played by people with above-average looks and physique. I'd suppose that's especially true of prisoner roles, when it comes to physique, due to prisoners' reputation for lifting weights all day, every day.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 07:41 PM
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Haha, nice. The "seasoned special forces soldier" look?
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 07:35 PM
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Fair enough. I apologize for being so aggressive in my initial comment. I get set off by rural America vs. urban America identity stuff. We're already so divided as a country, now by geography more than ever, and it breaks my heart to see it perpetuated. Plus, it's become so weirdly fashionable (one might say politically correct!) to shit on cities and the coasts while praising the country and interior as the "real" America, I get tired of hearing it. (Again, speaking as someone who's lived in b…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 01:51 AM
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I'll be charitable and say his main emphasis may have been the contrast between affluent city dwellers and welfare recipients vs. Grizzly Adams-type tough guys who chop wood and kill shit all day to survive in the hinterlands. But that leaves out such a massive swath of entire categories of people as to render the conclusions based on it meaningless. It's true that there are geographic differences in political philosophy – no doubt. But there are far more compelling (and complex) reasons for tha…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 10:46 PM
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I've lived in both small towns and major cities. The idea that city life is easy and makes a man soft compared to country/small town life is laughable at best. I find it telling that you compare a relatively affluent city dweller (able to afford and have the time to enjoy the many things city life has to offer) to a person in the country who literally must hunt and kill his food to feed himself/his family. Try comparing that country guy to the average service industry worker in a major city, man…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 10:11 PM
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Did any of it ring false to you? Not to me.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 07:56 PM
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Met a member of group C just last weekend (I posted a Blue Pill Example about it if you want to read more). She straight up told me she loved older men. Spoiler: I was exhausted and she wasn't hot enough for me to want to bother dealing with her mate-guarding beta orbiter.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 07:54 PM
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So true about one's twenties. I spent most of mine poor and studying my ass off (for the career I'm enjoying now). Also, most people, even in their mid-to-late twenties, are still finding themselves and solidifying their identities. But I definitely could have benefited from TRP then, at least the core principles. Today's youngsters who have found this sub are quite lucky. Happy hunting, old man. ;)
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 07:50 PM
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Yes to teasing! But it has to be lighthearted and in good fun, nothing mean-spirited. Girls fucking love that shit.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 07:32 PM
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A fun-loving and social attitude *almost completely trumps "game".* A million times this. I'll even take it one further: "game" can actually fuck up your game, because unless you've been putting it into practice for a long time, you'll be too fixated on what to say and how to act to come across naturally – to broadcast that easy, fun-loving vibe that lowers girls' guards and makes them take a chance on you. This is why I always preach the fundamentals: get right with yourself, your body, your ap…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 07:31 PM
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Nice report, and congrats. I'm also a guy in his thirties who's been having luck with the younger girls. But even in my twenties, what you said about things just coming together when you're enjoying yourself has always been true. Oddly enough, last time a hot girl landed in my lap, it was also a waitress, and I was not trying to meet anyone. In fact, she aggressively went for me. There's just something about being in the moment and genuinely not caring if you meet a girl – that and the social pr…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 07:18 PM
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I've traveled quite a bit and live in a very cosmopolitan city.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/17 02:32 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily say girls don't rebound. Often, especially if she is the one who got dumped, they are particularly desperate to validate themselves with a new man. But this reflex can sometimes lead to regret, as the other commenter mentioned. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just means it can (sometimes) be more of a challenge to keep her coming back. On the other hand, if she dumped her ex, she may already be primed for a new man – relationship or just periodic sex. May not be much …
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 10:19 PM
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I agree with this. I was going to say, basically just handle her the way you would if she was simply single, no recent breakup. Focus on the present and have fun. If she starts to vent about the ex, redirect her back to having fun with you. Do NOT let your relationship to her be defined by your listening to her post-breakup grief – that's the fast lane to the friend zone. But if shit does get hot between you, watch out for a potential regret backlash from her. The whole thing could be short-last…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 10:10 PM
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The latter is better. Chastising a girl for not responding enough/promptly – even to point out you will not be her platonic emotional blanket – communicates that you are hurt on some level by her unresponsiveness, which tilts the power dynamic toward her. In this context, ultimately walking away comes across as powerless resentment. On the other hand, ghosting without making a fuss about it shows you've got better things and people to do. ETA: By the way, none of this is to suggest I haven't mad…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 09:27 PM
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Exactly right about Argentina. They fancy themselves Spain in the Western Hemisphere.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 09:09 PM
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YMMV. But diet and exercise will always have a greater impact than any supplement – although you probably already knew that.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 07:07 PM
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Yes, really. There are significant cultural differences between Argentina and Mexico. Also, your particular context (beyond the difference in countries) could be quite different from the OP's. All I'm saying is don't so nonchalantly draw comparisons.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 07:06 PM
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Argentinians are known for being a bit full of themselves, certainly in comparison to many other Latin American countries. In other words, Mexico is not Argentina.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 05:28 PM
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ZMA, for workout recovery and testosterone production. Clinical research seems to support those results, so I don't think it's a placebo effect. I also take high-grade fish oil, mostly for its anti-inflammation qualities, although it seems to have helped my cholesterol levels as well. (ETA: with fish oil in particular, you've got to make sure you get a brand that isn't likely to be old/rancid, as bad fish oil is oxidized and actually does more harm than good.) CoQ10 for additional antioxidant ef…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 03:52 PM
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True about the angry posts. The guys who act like girls are the enemy are clearly doing it wrong. I'd also add a caveat about the field reports: some of them are pretty clearly fantasy. You have to apply discretion toward those as well.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 11:31 PM
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I've long thought that the fundamentals of self-improvement were far more important than, or at least should come before, the specific tactics. The flashiest paint job on a car doesn't mean squat if the engine, frame, etc. are shit.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 10:54 PM
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First, most important thing you can do is get in shape and improve yourself in every other way possible. You'll note that "LIFT!!!" is a common refrain around here – from my experience, that's not enough. If you want to maximize your looks you've got to get your body fat down. This makes both your body and face look better (more chiseled features). If you're already thin, on the other hand, focus on building muscle. But don't leave out the cardio – it's good for mental well-being and the brain m…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 10:25 PM
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See my comment to the OP a bit earlier. If you put in serious work toward self-improvement – physical, professional, psychological, everything – you can see your best years in your 30s and beyond. Although I had a blast being reckless and young, my 20s had nothing on my 30s in terms of happiness and fulfillment (and attracting women).
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 01:31 PM
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I'm in my late thirties and I've never had so much luck with women. I'm more fit than I've ever been, leaner, stronger, and faster than even my high school years – all thanks to intermittent fasting, improved diet, and hitting the gym at least four hours a week (high intensity). I've also discovered supplements. R-lipoic acid in particular has actually been shown to have anti-aging, highly antioxidant qualities. But it's the exercise and fasting that seem to have had the greatest impact on keepi…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 01:22 PM
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Seriously, that's how it came off to me too. Is it?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:40 PM
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To riff on A Game of Thrones, an ex has no name, haha.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 04:58 PM
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Or he stays up all night staring at his loaded assault rifle, and the next day takes it to a crowded mall. Just kidding, of course, but I do think it's as likely the guy just plunges further down the misery hole and never learns the real lesson behind the experience.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 04:46 PM
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If you would actually say these things in such a situation, you're a bolder man than me. My own more subtle, charm-based style hasn't failed me yet, but I don't begrudge whatever might work for others.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 04:42 PM
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Yes, it's true such changes require far more than just reading "motivational" internet posts, but sometimes posts like that (and other random thoughts) can provide the impetus to begin the hard work of making those changes – or the inspiration to stick with it, as reflected by some of the other commenters here. Anyway, I'm glad you agree that there's much more to this stuff than just the practical techniques.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 04:27 PM
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Therapy. I'm serious. See a psychologist and have them help you with any anger issues or anything else you're coping with. It can be a life changer.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 03:44 PM
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All the practical advice in the world doesn't amount to anything if you don't understand the broader philosophical principles animating it. Contrast the following two examples: Man follows practical advice to pick up women and "improve" himself, but he does so with a feeling of "I'll show them" bitterness toward the world. He lifts weights, learns pick-up artist techniques, improves his appearance, gets a good job, etc., but all the while he's driven by anger at external forces and circumstances…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 03:33 PM
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Never heard it put that way, but that sounds about right – although I don't really strive to be a pick-up pro. I'm just picky, I suppose.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 03:09 PM
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Good insights. The "nice guys" who constantly carp about how women like assholes, when you get down to it, define asshole as "guy who doesn't put girls on a pedestal and cater to their every whim." These hapless guys have a false notion that sexual attraction is transactional: man does/provides x, y, and z for woman, then woman dutifully pays him back through affection and sex. So when these men observe other guys getting affection and sex without making such offerings, they blame the woman, say…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 02:59 PM
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It's kind of funny – I didn't even consciously realize it at the time, but by just straight up asking if they are a couple, you make her show her cards for both you and him to see. And if they are anything other than a true, committed couple, it quickly becomes obvious in her denial or at least her hesitation. Game, set, match.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 07:02 AM
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Hahaha yes. It's like the axiom that the party most willing to walk away from a negotiation often wins it. By showing the strength to walk away from a flighty girl, you prove your worth and self-esteem and boost/confirm attractiveness in her eyes. True in a lot of other aspects of life as well. Float above the challenges, be your own anchor, show you've got it going on enough not to care about outcomes. But this requires actually not caring about outcomes, so if you seethe with resentment when i…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:56 AM
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See the comment I responded to. I wasn't talking about my situation.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:47 AM
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Yes to all. But in particular, do NOT engage aggressively. This just lowers you to his level and, even if she's not around to witness it, communicates to him that he's a genuine threat and thus should keep at it.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:46 AM
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Sound advice. I was going to say something more general, like just ignore the orbiter, focus on her. If she's at all interested in the orbiter (thus not a true orbiter, but a genuine prospect), move on and see if she comes back around. If she's not interested in him, just pretend he doesn't exist and engage her as you would otherwise. If he starts getting annoying/aggressive about it, rest easy in knowing this will make her want you more (as escape and/or comparison to his pathetic self) and qui…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:43 AM
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Like what Cesare said, I just dance and enjoy myself. I really, really love music and letting loose, so it's not hard for me to enjoy getting down, sometimes even with my eyes closed. Sometimes shit happens with a girl on the floor, sometimes not. I honestly don't care either way. But usually I'm there with friends. This time was an exception because my friend bailed. If it's not a dance club, but I'm solo, I hit the bar and chat everyone up. Neighbor (guy or girl), bartender, everyone around. O…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:37 AM
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I did a quick calculation in my mind and the output was no: how attracted to her am I + how much do I want to hurt this guy - etc. etc. Anyway, I wasn't nearly enough attracted to her, and I'm not cruel enough to want to hurt a stranger, no matter how obnoxious and pathetic he was. If anything, that guy was his own worst punishment, just for being his pathetic self. No need to drive him further down, and even if such a thing might – might – have eventually brought him to an epiphany, that ain't …
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:27 AM
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True that. What too many guys don't realize is that it's either there or it isn't. If the girl isn't actively attracted to you, no amount of cajoling, rationalization, or emotional bullying will change that – in fact it often only makes things worse. And on the other hand, if a girl wants a guy, she will be drawn to him practically regardless of any other factor. He can do a hundred things that would be stereotypical "turn-offs" and she'll still want to get with him. All this shit's happening on…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 06:19 AM
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I don't dispute that. Anyway, I was only making a tangential point, that the increased amount of sex one (usually) gets as a gay man often comes at the cost of increased health risk. But maybe I'm just telling myself that to feel better about not getting laid as much.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 12:03 AM
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You mean you were the guy out with the girl who started talking to another guy? I would handle this one of two ways, depending on how I think she actually feels about me. If I know I've got her in my pocket and will be taking her home that night regardless, I'd just roll with it and show I'm above it, maybe even have fun with it. In other words, ignore the shit test and don't let it get under my skin (thus proving I'm not insecure about her). If I think she's genuinely fishing around for alterna…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 10:42 PM
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This fills me with vicarious sadness. 😦
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 10:38 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I have that sort of mischievous tendency as well – but I was literally on my way out and just wanted to get home to bed (without this chick in it).
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 10:35 PM
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This has been my experience as well.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 10:33 PM
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Ironically enough, I'm speaking more from a micro level – I have several gay friends and they sleep around like crazy.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 10:31 PM
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I wouldn't live or think any differently from how I am now, but that's only recently been the case. From sheer time and experience (I'm in my late thirties), I've finally outgrown caring what other people think – except to the extent it might help or harm my own interests.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 09:32 PM
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What I meant was that the increased risk of disease comes from the increased promiscuity among gay men (vis-a-vis hetero couples), not just from men having sex with other men.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 09:25 PM
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One could argue whether it makes them better off per se, but they definitely get laid quite a bit more than (most of) their hetero brethren. Downside, of course, being the increased risk of contracting disease.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 06:42 PM
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Thanks. Had she been hotter, I would have felt compelled to take countermeasures. But I was tired and she was meh.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 06:38 PM
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Just in case you meant your comment at all literally – this guy didn't seem the slightest bit gay, and broadcasted silent hostility toward me the whole time. It was awkward.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 06:27 PM
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Truth is, if a girl is sexually interested in you, she won't let any of her friends interfere. This could mean talking to the friend attempting to cock block, or subtly signaling the same to her, or even just finding a way to give you her info on the sly or otherwise ensuring you can get in touch. But if a friend successfully cock blocks, 9 times out of 10 it's because the girl wanted the out.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/17 04:41 PM
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