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/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/21 04:29 PM
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It worked too! Haha.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/08/20 04:02 PM
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I love television. I don't love watching video footage of a tv.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/15 11:40 PM
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No, I'm not watching a 12 minute clip of footage of a television.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/15 07:48 PM
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I'd be surprised. As misogynistic and hateful as TRP is, I've never seen them successfully brigade (harass) any other subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:58 PM
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Wow, men are not institutionally victimized at the same rate as many other classes. So, when you complain about being a victim, you're "playing the victim" at a significantly higher level than when you pretend other classes "play the victim." You're so full of shit and you can't even see it. I just hope you realize one day how wrong TRP is before it hurts you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 07:14 PM
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The millions of men that have been burned by relationships in their life Don't you think you're playing the victim here? So, the first point on my three point list doesn't just apply to women. Apparently it applies to "all women," and "TRP men."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:18 PM
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Those are massive, inaccurate generalizations, and it is unhealthy to be in an echo chamber where those generalizations are considered facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 01:54 PM
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I agree that men face problems. However, there's a healthier way to discuss it than... Claiming women like to play the victims, and have little awareness Claiming feminism treats women as if they have no responsibility Saying that "Women are hanging their tits in dudes faces to get what they want all the time. Promising sex, implying sex, suggesting sex." And that's literally me scouring the front page of TRP as it stands right now. Can you honestly say that entering these extremely complicated …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 10:57 PM
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Are you absolutely sure that you've heard the argument 'women are incapable of being friends with men' . . . Yes. Because I actually read the description at the top of this page. I get why you're lashing out, and why men of TRP are so angry. I think we've all come to a point where we feel disenfranchised because of our sex. However, most men, when confronted with this sort of life-altering decision, understand that life isn't "black-and-white". There's no "MEN VS WOMEN" war going on. Life is muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 09:07 PM
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That happens all the time. What do you think the "friend-zone" is? It's when a man pretends to be friends with a woman in the hopes of getting in her pants. He's interested in sex or a relationship, and has no interest in actual friendship. So when he's acting as a friend would act, he's acting "under a false premise of friendship." That doesn't happen, or at least not often enough to be an issue. Honestly, like 75% of the people that end up going to TRP do it because they feel spurned by a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:42 PM
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Maybe I've been on the internet for too long. But I have no clue what your point is. Men know friendship is a good respectable thing, but we have desires. Men know that going out shopping with a woman is a bad way to attract a woman. Men are naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:28 PM
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It's easy to be friends with women when your relationship isn't an attempt to extract sex under a false premise of friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:51 PM
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A man can take half a woman's money and receive alimony if she's the financially successful one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:10 PM
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I'm going to go with a little bit of all three. The difference between you and me is that you judge a person based on their vagina, and I judge a person based on their mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 02:07 PM
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Nice guy: Man, why do girls always go for assholes... fucking bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:16 PM
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Women keep the belly full and the balls empty. Conversation has no value. You're either 1) a troll, 2) incredibly ignorant, or 3) can't be bothered to read beyond five words (which I wouldn't find all too surprising).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:06 PM
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This took me literally <2 minutes to find. Claiming that this talk is rare on TRP is intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:55 PM
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Don't you know, Not All Red Pill Are Like That. NARPALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:30 PM
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I've learned that both sides use the same arguments to discredit the other: For example, a common argument I hear is: "Women just want to trick dudes into cumming into them so they can get child support. - [cite upvoted reddit comment of woman admitting this here]" Counter-argument: "Not all women are like that! Some of us are actually just interested in equality." Then I hear "All Red Pillers think that women are sub-human" - [cite upvoted TRP reddit comment here] Counter-argument: "Not all TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:35 PM
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no benefits for men. You literally get tax benefits for being married. Your question's premise is flawed fucking dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 01:37 PM
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Hey, You're also the guy that was projecting your weird teenage girl fantasies onto me. Good luck. I can't think of a subreddit that would be open to your ideas though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:36 AM
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Haha, that took a weird turn. Congrats bud. Go forth, and enlighten Reddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:23 AM
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Some might call your attitude conceited. You might want to work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:11 AM
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yes. We're talking about who we find attractive. But, no I won't describe who I would find attractive to you. It is impossible for a 16 year old to have the traits I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:49 PM
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There are some women who are indeed very hot. First you introduce women that are "very hot" But they make being hot their part / full-time job. They use their looks to kill. I knew scores of these girls in college. Just as TRP predicts: they want bad-boys and dangerous, sexy men. Which you follow by generalizing these "very hot" women. My life experience facts about the other 95% of "normal" women Then you go on to generalize "normal women," which is apparently 95% of all women, thus meaning tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:46 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:36 PM
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no. I'm not attracted to all 19 year olds. So just because a 16 year old happens to look 19 does not mean I would be attracted. and no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:33 PM
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I was with you until you started equating all attractive women with the "catty hot girls" you talked about earlier, and then argued that there are exceptions. Also, doesn't matter what you say about how women are capable of having different natures. A central tenet to TRP is AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:31 PM
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I find some 19 year old women attractive. My answer is still no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:12 PM
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no no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 10:32 PM
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If you are a woman, no, I don't trust you . . . How is it any different for a man? Do you trust men more?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 10:30 PM
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No I don't. And I would not allow that to happen. If a vacuum cleaner found itself in the right spot it would work just as well. That doesn't mean I find vacuum cleaners attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 10:07 PM
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Your arguing that trustworthiness, or the lack thereof, is neither a positive or negative trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 09:50 PM
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Mine? I don't think I'm very good at being deceptive. And I don't think I misconstrued your words. I don't think women are inferior. Not being trustworthy is not the same as inferiority. It sounds to me like you're saying that while women are not inferior, they are certainly not trustworthy. Trustworthiness is a positive trait, so saying women are not trustworthy (as opposed to saying "people are not trustworthy) attaches a negative trait to women and a positive trait to men (that men are more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 09:35 PM
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Saying women are less trustworthy than men implies their inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 09:23 PM
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Well, I haven't said anything anti-ephebophilia. The original poster said that male nature is to want multiple wives (polygny) that are late-stage teenagers (ephebepheliac). I am saying that I, as an adult male, am not attracted to late stage teenagers, and therefore 1) his hypothesis is incorrect or 2) I am some sort of outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 09:21 PM
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nope I can confidently say my lack of attraction to sixteen year old girls is not because of their breast size.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:27 PM
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k. im still not attracted to sixteen year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:25 PM
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No, my wife can look at my account. I'm comfortable saying young features. Google "physical differences between teenagers and college aged women" if you're so inclined. Edit: you gots to hurry up because my phones about to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:51 PM
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When I was in high school I mostly saw young women. When I went to college, I was exposed to more developed female features. I found these features more attractive, and in comparison, young features became unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:44 PM
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not long after I turned 18. edit: not more than 2 years after. I'm interested to see the endgame to this line of questioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:37 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:33 PM
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when I was sixteen I was attracted to sixteen year old girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:28 PM
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k. I'm not attracted to sixteen year old girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:25 PM
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Trp isn't explicitly game theory. It holds itself out as a self-improvement forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 05:59 PM
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Trp insists that you listen before you speak. One of their few tenets I happen to agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 05:49 PM
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Ephebophilia is the attraction to late teenage adolescents generally between the age of 15 and 19. That very well might be your nature, but I assure you it's not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 05:46 PM
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I understand your analogy. I think it's a bad one because a gym is not a philosophy. You can go many places to find a way to improve yourself. But TRP is inextricably linked to treating women as inferior to men. I don't care if it's the "locker room" calling her a bitch or the "philosophers" taking paragraphs to describe why women are inferior, each are equally abhorrent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 05:27 PM
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I don't know why I come back here. I think it's because I genuinely believe that TRP subscribers aren't bad people, they've just taken a bad path. It's just hard to keep a straight face when I hear some of these arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 05:08 PM
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PPD is a dumb concept. As a person that has met both men and women much smarter than I am, I can't genuinely debate a philosophy that equates all women to selfish teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 04:32 PM
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My only options are to 1) worship women, or 2) treat them like teenagers. The problem with TRP, is that they separate the world into black and white (or more appropriately blue and red). The world isn't that simple. It's perfectly possible to treat a partner as gasp a partner without worshipping her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 04:27 PM
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It makes me sad that you believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:24 PM
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Which is why I try to stay off of PPD. I just can't genuinely debate a person that seriously makes the "key/lock" argument (otherwise known as the "stupidest god damn bullshit I've ever heard in my entire life" argument).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:23 PM
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TRP just echoes "women are sluts" to each other over and over and over until they just consider it a "truth," while simultaneously not acknowledging that 7/8ths of them are on TRP in the first place to learn how to trick someone into having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:14 PM
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It's statements like this that force me to leave PPD to regain composure. You really think men are so capable of self control that they won't ever cheat in a happy relationship... that's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:10 PM
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The mental gymnastics it takes to come to this conclusion is fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:16 PM
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Most People in the real world don't even know this is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:21 PM
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My point is there is no BP belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:31 PM
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The Blue Pill isn't a belief system akin to TRP. It's a subreddit entirely dedicated to making fun of TRP. Your question is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:14 PM
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Men flock to TRP because they're angry and they feel disenfranchised, and the philosophy gives them a cognizable group to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:51 PM
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No, but I'm sure he has a couple anecdotal Tumblr blogs to link to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:58 PM
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I spent four years in a fraternity at University in the United States, and I'm a month away from finishing my graduate degree. I've experienced the most childish women and the most childish men. Neither is more immature than the other, but their immaturity differ on substantive grounds. I personally consider an inflated hubris to be a childish trait, but that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:02 PM
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I understand this argument. I disagree for two reasons. 1) I'd never enter a relationship where I expected an inequal balance of power between me and my partner. 2) "women act more childish than men." I disagree. I've seen both men and women act childish, and I've seen men and women act responsible. This idea is perpetuated in TRP by members sharing stories or articles where women act immature or irresponsible over and over again until they truly begin to believe women are less responsible becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:52 PM
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Well, the underlying philosophy of NAWALT isn't dependent on my intentions. I really hope you figure out that trp is not helpful, and can actually be destructive. Over-generalizing 50% of the planet's population based on their sex as less able is destructive and an unhealthy way to approach life. I understand you disagree. Good luck with your future endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:43 PM
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So kind of like NAWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:38 PM
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Cherry picked post? So are you saying that Not All Red-Pillers Are Like That?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:36 PM
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No, I've read the post several times and the context does not alter my analysis. I linked to the post above. Why don't you take a look at it and tell me where I'm wrong. Edit: it's the "all women are shit" comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:32 PM
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No, I'm not. For example: "All women are narcissists" This is a substantive statement with content. It argues that ALL women suffer from NPD. NPD is a serious psychological condition that is associated with selfishness. From this statement, I come to several inferences. 1) all women have npd, but not all men do. 2) npd is a negative trait associated with selfishness. 3) because women have npd at a significantly higher rate than men, they are inherently more selfish. 4) because women are more sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:25 PM
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"All women are shit" is a substantive statement. Besides that, just in one post I see: All women are narcissists. All women are crazy. "Never met a bitch who wasn't crazy or manipulative" Women only have sex as a transaction to get what they want. These are all substantive statements that are, as you point out, overshadowed by their abrasive tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:15 PM
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I stand by my original statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:01 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought I made that clear earlier when I said "nor do I agree with the content." Of course I have a problem with the tone. Saying "all men/women are shit" is hateful and not productive. Most people are moderates and when they hear an otherwise valid point prefaced with such a statement, they tend to be dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:00 PM
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Yes, there are self-help tips, but there are plenty of places to get self help tips. My point in saying it's nothing other than extremist nonsense is that if you remove the "women are shit" philosophy, trp would cease to exist because that is the cornerstone of trp philosophy. Look at the top stickied post right now. It's a subreddit centralized in anger and hate, not just some self-help forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:54 PM
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I didn't say those things aren't in trp. The top two upvoted posts atm are about how to not be a boring fuck. I'm all about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:48 PM
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all women are shit But I really don't see all that much hate coming from them. I guess that's where we don't see eye-to-eye. I'm not saying you're irrational, but I just fundamentally don't understand how you see those statements and don't consider it hate. I agree with one common exercise done in trp, the sniff test. "Switch the sexes in a statement." In this case if a feminist blogger said "all men are shit" I imagine you would consider it hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:44 PM
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Sorry bot! I keep forgetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:39 PM
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I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I wouldn't say these things if I hadn't done my research. There are other subreddits that do these things. /r/decidingtobebetter /r/financialadvice /r/fitness But what distinguishes trp from those subreddits? Posts like this: Women are shit +242 comment. TRP promotes abusive tendencies like dread game and concludes that relationships are a constant power struggle. Trp's primary distinguisher is hate although, as your comment provides support for, it fancies itself …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:37 PM
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But that's not what the post I refer to argues. It doesn't say "act like a child, have fun," it says "tell your woman what to do," "Lay down rules," and "punish her when she doesn't follow those rules." Women act like children, so they should be treated as such. I'm all about self-improvement. I also recognize that acting like a child is healthy in moderation. My wife and I have two tv's. We move both into the living room on Saturdays and sit and video game binge for hours. We trade off between …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:03 PM
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I agree completely. I don't think following a philosophy that likens women to children fosters the mindset conducive to finding a mate "who enjoys being around me."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:31 PM
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Nor do I agree with the content, it's fueled by bitterness and hate. Thus my earlier statement that it is a hateful subreddit. Edit: additionally it would be intellectually dishonest to argue that these posts do not support my conclusion that trp generally considers women to be inferior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:29 PM
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Sorry mod-bot, I fixed it I swear!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:18 PM
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I agree that women and men are different. That's not controversial unless you go on Tumblr. Women are Children + 367 Women are shit! +242 comment American Women are Whores +310 although I wouldn't be surprised if I saw another post "FOREIGN WOMEN ARE WHORES". Women will break the rules for men who turn on them and create rules for men they don't respect +569 Come on, this isn't a subreddit comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:12 PM
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The problem is that as soon as you go a little bit over what's acceptable. . . Treating women like children is a +433 post that argues you should treat a woman the same way you would treat a child. This goes beyond "leadership" or "making decisions for the house." And it's certainly not "a little bit over what's acceptable", it's absolutely unacceptable. If you want an obedient dog for a relationship, I'm sure trp will get you that. I prefer my spouse whom I consider a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:01 PM
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That's because it's true. Do you not agree that trp considers women to be inherently inferior to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:52 PM
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Well first you have to define blue pill. There are two common usages. The subreddit: /r/thebluepill, and the term trp uses "blue pill" as a descriptor. Neither is a philosophy akin to trp. The subreddit is created specifically to make fun of trp. It's not really anywhere on the chart, however I think many of the subreddits subscribers fall on the extremist side opposite of trp. I subscribe there for kicks and giggles, although I wouldn't consider myself on that extreme side. Trp's blue pill defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:42 AM
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TRP has some good advice. 1) take care of your body. 2) take care of your mind. 3) be comfortable with or without a woman's attention. 4) don't be a pushover. However, it stops there. I don't agree with the intense hatred for women that philosophy has. It goes well beyond recognizing that biological and mental differences between men and women exist, and instead concludes that one sex is inherently inferior to the other. I can't come close to agreeing. I've met women and men much smarter than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:32 AM
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The Red Pill is "pick up/relationship strategy + hate" that fancies itself a self-help forum. If you think it's anything other than extremist non-sense, you haven't looked hard enough. The Blue Pill was, in fact, created solely to make fun of the Red Pill. That's totally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:15 AM
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I think this manner of thinking is a problem. 1) You haven't actually presented a real incident in which this happened; and 2) /r/theredpill likes to take extreme positions of select few, whether it be "tumblr feminists" or "door-mats" and apply those positions to all women or men that don't follow /r/theredpill. Living in extremes isn't realistic (e.g., women naturally are slutty and dishonest, all men that don't follow the red pill are door-mats).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:49 AM
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I echo what others have said in this thread, that you need to know the person you date before you date them. That being said, let's talk about trust for a minute. What's the point of trust. Trust means "Firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something." You can show your trust to another person (it doesn't have to be a significant other) by making yourself vulnerable, usually for mutual benefit. However, the risk of making yourself vulnerable is that someone ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 10:51 PM
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After reading the story posted (which I did not before my original answer), I don't think that sort of travel is inappropriate. It sounds like they will simply be traveling on the plane together, but not really spending any time. To answer your question though, I think it's inappropriate for a person with a significant other to go on a one on one vacation with someone of the opposite gender other than their s.o. or a family member. I'd also consider it disrespectful of the relationship. Edit: bt…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:55 AM
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Would I let her? I can't make her do anything. That's her choice. Would she have a significant other waiting when she finished? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:45 AM
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