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Question For MenLonely_23_1997/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:46 PM
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The logic behind this seems to be that they don’t want to incentivize greater demand for sex work with full legalization because that leads to higher trafficking inflows.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:15 AM
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All of those are applicable in the US. Masturbation=sex when you’re buying someone’s body to nut off with. They’re mechanisms for you to sexually gratify yourself while coping with the fact that you were unable to find someone to meet your sexual needs. Whether that’s temporary or a permanent situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:51 AM
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Legal forms of soliciting sex work. Like strippers, porn, AI, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:21 AM
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What were you wearing? Were you at the bar by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:23 AM
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I’m glad you think that. However women are people. Some good some bad. The criminal behaviors of men and women just vary. When it comes to sex work specifically men tend to consume it in all forms legal and illegal. Whereas women tend to stick to the legal forms. Though there are exceptions to both. Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:21 AM
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You’re the troll here. No one said they’re salivating over it. They’d just be less creeped out by that guy than they would a guy soliciting prostitutes. Either way if you’re going with the story of a sad pitiful man who can’t find love and sex neither hypothetical man would have to worry about what the average woman thinks of him. Since he wasn’t getting attention from women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:20 AM
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https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/what-do-if-youre-target-revenge-porn#:~:text=There%20are%20laws%20against%20revenge,talk%20with%20local%20law%20enforcement. AFAIK the websites that the videos are uploaded on are the only ones who profit off revenge porn. I don’t think it’s that profitable to the uploader. They just post it to shame and expose the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:18 AM
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You can have the fleshlight modeled after your favorite porn stars vagina, watch her perform and get your rocks off that way without having to worry about the legality of things. A man who masturbates is viewed more favorably than one who buys sex. So they’re winning more than if they solicited a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:13 AM
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And what happens to those that fall through the cracks of government protection? Watching only fans doesn’t have the same effects as soliciting a prostitute. It’s more comparable to revenge porn. It’s illegal to upload in some places but not illegal to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:10 AM
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Women understand they just don’t care and are disgusted at men for bringing it up 24/7 instead of focusing their energy on attracting virginal brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:44 AM
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A growing number. They tend to just buy and consume it in legal ethical forms. Men who are privileged enough to buy sex workers can do the same. They can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:14 AM
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I am. Plus enough of the opposition being up for that can result in it being pushed through anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:06 AM
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For many men it’s easier to get intimacy than sex. They don’t want the intimacy without the sex though. If they had a female friend who was beautiful, emotionally supportive and physically intimate in non-sexual ways they’d consider her a tease and start lusting after her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:59 AM
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The type of women that want casual sex and the type of women who want LTRs can sometimes overlap but they’re not always the same. If she wanted a FWB but then you’re acting like you caught feeling and want an LTR she’s going to dip and look for a guy that’ll stick to the original FWB plan. It’s similar to what would happen if you start vibing with a woman that wants an LTR. If you say you want something casual she’s going to leave too. If you date a woman that wants FWB but then you want an LTR,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:57 AM
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The sprinkle sprinkle movement isn’t about casual sex. The parts that discuss male behavior really just tell women to watch out because not all men will have good intentions with them. There’s a lot of craziness and toxicity in the sprinkle sprinkle but it doesn’t paint men as sexual savages. It paints them as “selfish” beings who care about themselves at the end of the day. It tells women you better be aware of that and bring your A game to get “princess treatment” or you can be a used up “pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:54 AM
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You need to eliminate the demand. No demand=no sellers. If you eliminate sellers but leave wannabe buys things will be like a dog chasing its tail until sex bots become more advanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:46 AM
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Do you buy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:45 AM
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Men who buy sex are the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:44 AM
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It is race neutral. Most black American citizens have photo IDs. Plus any discrepancy can easily be remedied by making it easier to get photos IDs. Like waving the application fee or making it completely free and automatically mailing one to every US citizen at age 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:43 AM
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A lot of laws did specifically say no black people though. So this is a false equivalence. If a woman buys sex from a man or woman she will face the same punishment. Similarly if a man buys sex from aman he will be punished the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:37 AM
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And? There’s still male prostitutes and female buyers as well as male prostitutes with male buyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:33 AM
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Murder isn’t necessarily illegal if it’s considered self defense or you were forced to do it. You can also get off from selling drugs if you were forced to. Your sentence can also be lighter if you have sympathetic circumstances for why you sold drugs or killed someone. Plus that’s a bad analogy. Selling sex adversely affects the seller. Selling drugs adversely affects the buyer, and murder adversely affects the person killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:29 AM
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Traffickers who are forcing people to sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:28 AM
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”Extremely privileged” compared to whom? If it’s victims of sex trafficking, yeah, every person in America is extremely privilege compared to them because they actually have freedom and aren’t essentially a slave. Compared to most prostitutes and most people globally. If you have the money and gall to buy another person even for a brief period of time you are extremely privileged. Also need a source for “legally buying sex increases sex trafficking” there is a lot of prostitution going on illega…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:27 AM
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Yes. I listed them in my other comments. Fleshlight, VR porn, sex dolls, AI, international dating etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:21 AM
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The number of men robbed by prostitutes should lay this ridiculous argument to rest. Who cares? They have other means to get their sexual needs met so they won’t be robbed. How many prostitutes have other avenues to earn an income so they won’t be robbed, abused and beaten by clients? If a guy is a desperate incel or a sex addict how is he any less "vulnerable" to purchasing a drug (pussy) than a drug addict? He can purchase a flesh light or sex doll to meet his coochie needs with no risks. How …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:20 AM
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I think it is manipulative since he knew who she was from the start. It’s like he was trying to cage a wild bird. Very weird, shady and controlling behavior. If she was more conservative at the beginning and then changed, and he tried to change her back I’d agree. However he knew who was dating from day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:14 AM
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He should’ve never dated her in the first place. It’s not like she was a radically different person when they met. That’s always something that’s been weird to me. If you know someone’s lifestyle isn’t something you’d be able to jive with long term, don’t engage with them. Just leave them alone instead of dating them and trying to change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:13 AM
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Yes. That’s how some laws are made already. Welfare is legal and not available to those who are wealthy. Similar thing here. Why help someone who doesn’t need it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:11 AM
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It’s not a different conversation it’s the same one since it’s all interconnected. When you buy sex it’s hard to know why the seller is there. If they’re trafficked and “well trained” or a victim of circumstance with a pimp they’re not going to say that because they fear for their life. Legally buying sex also increased trafficking inflows. Plus with the risks buyers are exposed to they have more recourse to seek help and other options to meet their sexual needs where even with “willing” sex sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:10 AM
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They’re not addicts. Plus even if they were there’s legal ethical options for them to buy sex. So they’re still better off than the average sex worker with little to no better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:08 AM
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People who sell drugs and murder get leeway too if they were forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:07 AM
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There’d still be buyers. All of the sellers would just be straight up trafficking victims vs victims of circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:05 AM
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It’s not ridiculous at all. I’m assuming you’re talking about prostitution since other kinds of sex work are legalized both ways. With specifically prostitution though, the average buyer has a much easier life than the average seller.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:04 AM
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It’s not misandry. Buyers have little to no risks and adversities from buying sex while sellers have many. Your drug analogy doesn’t work because buyers of drugs are more vulnerable than sellers. With certain types of sex work it’s the opposite. Plus legalizing sex work tends to increase trafficking in flow because demand rises. So they could’ve also done this to prevent that. Partially decriminalizing It enables women who want to, to get out of the industry safely or seek help without fear of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:03 AM
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To get an answer. Why else lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:50 AM
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They happen in others ways too. They happen at work often even though HR tries to dissuade that. As well as hobby groups, blind dates or references via friends, church, bars, clubs etc. it probably is falling but I doubt it’s falling as fast as they portray on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:50 AM
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Not really because women outnumber hot men greatly and if they’re getting dropped after 1-2 encounters or so, there’ll be long stretches where there only consistent sex partners are average men. She’d choose average men because the hot man isn’t as readily available. Let’s say she “needs” 10-20 minute sex sessions 4x a week. The hot man is only available 1 a month, who do you think is going to fill up the rest of her FWB time? Average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:04 PM
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2/3rds can which is millions more that are having sex. Plus what happened to the passport bros movement? Isn’t it supposed to be easier overseas?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:01 PM
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I think there does exist a problem where the "outsourcing" you're describing feels less gratifying than the authentic version. To use the easiest example, while porn scratches most people's sexual itch, it's immensely less rewarding than sex with a partner. So most people are getting their needs met pretty easily and then wind up feeling less happy overall. Yep I completely agree with this. It’s a cycle though. It makes them unhappy but more often than not they’re too shackled by the fear of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:00 PM
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Men who aren’t hot get laid too just not as frequently and from a smaller variety of women. It’s like dates. Average and hot women get asked on dates but the quality and frequency vary based on the women looks. Some get free helicopter rides around Manhattan and dinner in Michelin restaurants others get taken out for a Wendy’s 4for4 every few months. More people are ending up alone because social and financial pressure to get married and have kids has been alleviated. Plus some aspects of romant…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:45 PM
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The woman may not always have a choice between the hot man and the average man. Sometimes her options are a sea of average men. Then there’s women who are single and willing to have a mixture of men(average and hot) on their roster if they’re into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:41 PM
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If he’s high value in the modern sense, more likely than not she’s getting an orgasm because of both the quality of the sex and the quality of the man. Or at the very least her odds of having at least one orgasm is higher than if he had neither of those things going for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:39 PM
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Average men have casual sex too just not as frequently. Above average men could probably pull a new woman every few weeks and hot men every couple days. Whereas average men it takes several months to get a new FWB but they’re still getting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:12 PM
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Re-read my comment. I was explicitly and obviously asking you a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:46 PM
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Please point to when I said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:40 PM
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So 70% of men are having sex. It’s just a minority that can’t get sex or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:36 PM
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Single doesn’t mean sexless though. So it could be chunk of those could just not want a committed relationship or they can find women where there is mutual interest in sex but not for long term dating either because she’s not interested or he’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:35 PM
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So 60% start offline?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:31 PM
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Agreeable hot men get laid as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:31 PM
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Unless the short man is very strong you’re more sexually limited in some ways where you aren’t with tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:23 PM
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Yeah, that's all mostly reactionary. It’s as proactive as the advice given to men. Figuring out how to find what you’re looking for, be seductive and maintain the other persons attraction/interest. I didn't ask anything. “According to what?” Is this not a question? I’m confused? You concurred that what I was describing was modern dating, as in how dating is now. I didn’t concur anything based off what you said. I answered what I thought was a question posed by you. Yeah, that looks different for…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:43 PM
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They know how to they just don’t want to. They feel it’s unfair that they have to do more to get “worse” women when their fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers didn’t have to and the all mighty “chad” doesn’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:20 PM
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No I don’t identify with the red pill. The guys struggling are average in every sense of the word. They’re struggling because they’re in a cultural limbo. There’s not as much social and financial pressure on teenagers and young women(16-25) to find a man and settle down. So women aren’t as hard pressed to just rush and lock down any full time employed man as they once were. Now they take their time to find a man they actually enjoy. Sexually or holistically. A lot of men don’t fit those bills so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:14 PM
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It’s both. So a chunk of sexless men would’ve been completely struggling no matter what time period they were dating in. Then another chunk would’ve done better pre-internet and pre-feminism because it gave them leverage in the LTR/Marriage game. The allure of the “beta-bux” as ppd likes to call it has faded since the internet and feminism so now those type of men are struggling where they wouldn’t if they were dating in a different time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:03 PM
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Well I’d say yes since there’s more sexless men now than in the past, but it’s balanced. Since they have more options to deal with this than men in the past did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:57 PM
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Yes, I know what it looks like. It's mostly reactionary. The action-oriented advice that women get is centered around their appearance. Nope it’s proactive as well. A big chunk of it is appearance oriented because if a man doesn’t like how you look nothing else matters. There’s more to it than that though. They advise on how you should conduct yourself, how you should speak to him, how to fill up your time to be more socially interesting and appealing to different types of men, where to go to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:54 PM
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It depends on what you view as a struggle. Before dating apps men who weren’t attractive enough to consistently get sex, affection and intimacy from via casual dating would just get married or enter an LTR for a consistent supply. However the downside would be a dead bedroom with higher stakes. Now if a man can’t get those things there’s porn that a lot more easily accessible and AI girlfriends with the advent of the internet. Plus sex work is legal in some parts of the world and international t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:50 PM
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Additionally, using the job interview analogy that a few people brought up: In the job market you can be headhunted, apply to a job that is actively hiring or apply to a job that isn’t actively hiring. Depending on which bucket you fall into your experience is radically different. Dating is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:39 PM
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Not true. Most conventional dating advice and opinions you will hear from people center all attention on the man catering to the woman, not the other way around, or even mutual effort from both people. False. I’m assuming you’re a man? Probably a straight one? Correct me if I’m wrong. There’s conventional dating advice centered around catering to men as well. You’d never see it though if you’re not interested in dating men. Partially because of the algorithm on your socials and partially you won…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:36 PM
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The issue is there’s a difference between nice guys, “nice guys” and kind men. These things get conflated often and cause a lot of confusion. Nice guys are socially awkward men/boys who have trouble expressing themselves and asserting their boundaries. When men think of nice guys this is one variant they’re thinking of. They’re genuine and fairly harmless. “Nice guys” are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Theyre men/boys with ulterior motives who’ll pretend to be kind, helpful and friendly to get wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:29 PM
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All women aren’t quality by default. Both men and women know that. Most men just don’t care if all they want is sex. If she’s not a quality woman they’ll just pump and dump her. For most interactions with men, women care about the guys quality to varying degrees and the level of effort she puts in is equal to that. If she feels you’re low quality or she’s barely interested she’s not going to put in much work if any at all. If she thinks you’re high quality things will be more balanced or they’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:22 PM
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It doesn’t give any psychological benefits. It just prevents them from wasting their time and having bad sex considering the odds of orgasm during a first time encounter aren’t in women’s favor in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:14 PM
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You do if you want a quality man. If you just want an average guy you just can’t be too off putting. If you’re dating below average men it’s a free for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:13 PM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:09 PM
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Yeah. They’d rather be sucking the dick of a the same exact man who wasn’t a manwhore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:09 PM
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I see this all the time but really, how can a top man 'meet your dating needs/wants' better than an average man? Better looks, better sex, more charm, more money and more perks than dating him. The caring, nurturing, quality time etc is roughly the same for the various looks groups of men. The only thing he may be missing in comparison to the average man is monogamy. I assume top man is the typical HVM, someone who's tall, rich, famous, muscular etc. Yet women's dating needs/wants is someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:08 PM
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It’s an accurate way to word it. They’re choosing to accept the dynamic in the same way people choose to accept their crappy dead end jobs. You accept what the economy offers to meet your needs and wants. It’s the same with the dating economy. If women could choose what they actually want and desire it’d be monogamy with a high quality man, not pseudo polyamory. However the dating market dictates that’s so rare it might as well be a pipe dream. So your choices are to either accept an unsatisfact…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:47 PM
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No I don’t agree.They don’t prefer either. They prefer a high quality relationship with a high quality man. In this dating economy though as a woman you’re most likely going to get 1 of the following 3. A mediocre relationship with a mediocre/equal man, a mediocre relationship with a high quality man or nothing. A high quality relationship with a mediocre man and a high quality relationship with a high quality man are very rare. The former you’ll get if you date a guy that views you as way above…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:26 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here? I’m referring to the proportion of men vs women that rent or own their own homes among younger millennials and gen z. Not simps paying a woman’s rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:18 PM
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They’re dating them because that’s the best option available to meet their dating needs/wants. They’d prefer for those men to be monogamous and they’d be genuinely happy if they were. Since most of them aren’t though then you either accept the downsides and get some of what you want out of dating or dip out entirely and learn to be content with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:17 PM
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I’m using an example to demonstrate that doing something doesn’t necessarily mean it’s your preference or that you’re happy about it. Their preference is a stable attractive man that is monogamous. The ugly reality is most stable attractive men won’t want to be monogamous so although they’d prefer monogamy they’ll begrudgingly accept pseudo-polyamory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:15 PM
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Its most likely going to be other men paying you rent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:11 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:09 PM
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Not being forced to do something doesn’t mean you enjoy it. It’s like a crappy job, you’re not happy about it, you’re not forced to do it but if it’s the best option available to pay the bills you’ll clock in to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:09 PM
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There’s a world of options in between brute force and enthusiastic preferences. Reluctant resignation is also an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:08 PM
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I highly doubt you and your friends are pumping and dumping any living thing.Much less women. Sounds like a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:06 PM
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Plenty of women are realistic in this way. They get with men all the time who aren’t their ideal but they’re also not repulsive. If the guy actually treats her well and they’re compatible it works out. If he doesn’t treat her horrible and in his mind that’s treating her well, it may not work out. Since she’d be better off alone than dealing with grievances from a guy she barely likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:23 AM
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If she’s physically repulsed by him then yes. Since sex will become a chore and it will breed resentment from both ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:21 AM
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But what if she doesn’t want to attract a man anymore? Agency also involves the freedom to make the decision to walk away from dating all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:20 AM
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You’re not pumping women and passing them to the next guy. As sexlessness is on the rise and millennials and gen z are having less sex than past generations. People are just burnt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:19 AM
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A lot of women are happy being single. Or at least happier being single than in a bad relationship. Most women could get in a relationship any time they want. They’d rather protect their peace and be single if the relationship wouldn’t be worthwhile though. Women talk about mgtow, passport bros and the like for the same reason passport bros, mgtows and the manosphere talk about women. Entertainment, sounding bird to see if others feel the same way about the opposite sex as they do or venting the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:18 AM
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It doesn’t. Most people men and women are in a gray area where they can do things to make themselves more attractive and appealing. YMMV depending on your starting point but you can improve enough to get a least a few dates and a relationship or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:05 AM
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Women are pretty open about this outside of Reddit. On tiktok, Twitter, irl women’s discussions etc they’re very open and honest about the fact that they’re not interested in most men they come across. Where men and women’s opinions differ is women think men can do things to make themselves more attractive while men feel it’s predetermined and unfixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:59 AM
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Why were you being pedantic. Also it doesn’t back what you’re saying as bisexual women have the highest risk fact for DV and IPV among women and they’re mostly victimized by men. https://www.thetaskforce.org/bisexual-women-have-increased-risk-of-intimate-partner-violence-new-cdc-data-shows/ I came to my conclusion by reading your stats as well as others. I can provide more if you wish but yours very clearly stated bisexual women have the highest rates of abuse and if you look at what I linked th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:13 PM
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Does it what? Per the source my demographic is in more danger of DV from men vs women. Plenty of Bi women date women, however they’re more likely to experience DV than both straight women and lesbian women and they’re more likely to experience DV at the hands of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:56 PM
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I’ve had a similar experience but to add to that I think it depends on what kind of femme as well. The femmes I’ve dated reciprocate and are active but they’re not the “pillow princess” type of femme. They weren’t femmes that subscribed to heteronormativity. However I fully agree depending on what kind of women you’re dating your WLW experience will be radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:17 PM
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Your source doesn’t back what you’re saying considering most bi women are in relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:49 PM
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Do you exclusively date men now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:46 PM
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What kind of women were you dating? I’m asking this sincerely. Were they high femme pillow princesses? More masc? Somewhere in between? Until my current relationship I found dating women to be easier than dating men because they’d be more likely to reciprocate and they understood certain things. The main difficulties were social and cultural ones. However your experience may vary based on the type of women you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:46 PM
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You can get better at oral if your partner isn’t enjoying things due to size, you can also introduce toys. If they’re making you feel really bad about your size though breaking things off may be better. Everyone has their preferences and sometimes you won’t be a fit for a person you like because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:49 AM
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The vast majority of men don’t have enough resources to leech as lost households require dual income. So most women couldn’t leech off men even if they wanted too. Men that do make enough money for that are “high betas” or “alpha bucks” and their wives are attracted to them. My premise is 100% rooted in modern reality. Sounds like yours in rooted in something that was true decades ago, but is not the case now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:21 PM
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If you’re vague/ambiguous people will read that as dishonesty in dating and feel like they were led on. It’s similar to the friendzone thing and how there are competing narratives. Men say women are leading them on, women say they’re acting entitled. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Just be blunt and very very direct. Those who can hang will and there will be no possible way for them to mistake things. Those who can’t will weed themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:18 PM
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So just be honest and explicit and say you don’t know how you feel about them and you’re not sold on looking to commit to them. It seems being honest in that manner has yielded you better results anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:46 PM
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If what he’s saying is true, the children didn’t cause this. She was already like this but now that the kids are here they don’t have as much time to partake in activities that probably compensated for her flaws and so he’s not as easily able to look past it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:43 PM
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Plenty are fighting. However the ones who have kids are prioritizing them first. A nation can’t survive if the children aren’t taken care of to rebuild it. Men are first class citizens and they’re also viewed as more capable and stronger. Women are viewed as less competent than men in battle at best and a liability or deadweight at worst. Which is why women were allowed to flee with the children. Because the wife is viewed as more useless in battle. There’s no confidence that an army of only wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:40 PM
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It is factually true. Women don’t bother with men who don’t satisfy them to some degree. I never agreed with you. I think AF/BB and going abroad for love are the same thing in principle. So unless you agree with that, then we’ve never agreed on anything. Reality agrees with my premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:36 PM
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It’s neither as has been previously explained to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:34 PM
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You should get help for your paranoia and persecution complex. Seems your grasp on reality is slipping. I never blamed you for anything or changed anything about my comments. They’ve remained the same as they were. I see you’re still continuing to project your zoophilia on me. I listed aspects of a romantic relationship and you then responded saying you can get that from pets. Romance and sex are not the same thing. In either case both things(two separate things since you seem lost on that) are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 08:34 PM
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So then men and women are doing the same thing when they go for different partners after previously dating a different type. I’ve never agreed with any of your points but thanks for now agreeing with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:46 AM
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Neither are most human beings who have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:45 AM
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Why do you want sex? And unless you’re extremely attractive you’re going to need some of the same charm and social skills required for making friends to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:31 AM
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Do you feel this way over not owning a luxury purse?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:30 AM
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Female privileges of not being able to find hookups on tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:29 AM
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The women that left do feel guilty for leaving their country and men behind. Many were crying their eyes out about it and devastated that this happened. However most don’t have only themselves to worry about. It’s one thing to decide to stay and fight as a childless woman it’s another when you have minor children who you know won’t be able to fend for themselves if you send them on a refugee journey by themselves. So it’s a hard decision. Do you stay in an active war zone and hope your kids don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:27 AM
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In this scenario is everything about men and women switching including their libidos, biological roles in terms of reproduction etc or is it just desirability?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:19 AM
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I’m not saying or trying to say that at all. Put your emotions aside and read what was actually said with the intentions of understanding vs with the intention of being triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:18 AM
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In relation to a quote about things offered in a romantic relationship. Why would animals be the first thing you think to comment back? Bringing animals up in that context doesn’t make any sense unless one is romantically/sexually attracted to animals. Now pose your last question to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:16 AM
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Not as sex objects. That was you. Nope, that was you again. I was bringing up non-sexual aspects of a romantic relationship then you claimed cats and dogs provide that. No, you imagined several times. Nope. All the comments to you from other people are still on the chain. Nope. Again, you suck at reading because you want to be mad at the internet. I asked what is a reason to deal with them other than their body and you've concluded that there is no other reason. Therefore, you hate women or only…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:15 AM
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Wrong again, because according to your logic a second choice isn’t a downgrade if they are unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:11 AM
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They don’t know the quality. It’s just a different choice after finding out what else is out there just like men who go abroad according to your logic. That’s why it’s an upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:12 PM
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That was you and your beastiality fetish. Nope it was you. You brought up cats and dogs. No, I haven't been. You have. Several times now. That's not my logic, that's your emotion. No that’s your logic. You’ve said explicitly several times women offer nothing but their body. As for men they offer the same things women do in a relationship all things you dismissed by saying pets can provide them. So that means men offer nothing by your logic. That's not how it works. That is how it works. You’d ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:11 PM
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I didn’t bring animals into this. You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:07 PM
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No, I don't. So what do men offer besides money? Or are you saying you disagree with the assumption that you’re opposed to dating women who believe that. Yeah, they're called incels and they don't reproduce. It’s more than just incels that fall into that category. Only a minority of men are in essential jobs like sanitation, police, military, medicine, innovators in the hard sciences etc. The rest are low tier white collar, criminals, neets and aren’t essential because of that based on your logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:07 PM
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Then again by your logic they know the beta is easier to date and don’t know the quality of him compared to the alpha. They’re just trying something new after not finding what they want originally just like men who go abroad. So they’ve both upgraded in your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:16 PM
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Most men do know that. We live in the internet age where there’s an information overload and shows like 90 day fiancé get thrown in your face whether you want to know about it or not. Men definitely know from the start that they can date in other countries. They just choose not to. Also by your logic women who do AF and then go to betas after being left unsatisfied are also upgrading when they go to the betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:11 PM
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If that was the case they would have never dated in America. They’re the same as AF/BB women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:16 PM
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It makes 100% sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:04 PM
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And I still gave you a substitution. A sex bot is literally that, they’re just not human. They get warm and can talk to you and learn about you just like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:04 PM
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That is a substitute. Especially the sex bot, it’s a physical body with AI, they’re just not flesh and blood human beings. They have synthetic “skin”. So you definitely can have sex without women being involved. Just get a female sex bot!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:50 PM
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So you agree men only offer money, yet you’re opposed to women who feel the same and will offer their body only as long men offer money. Interesting. Reasoning? Also you realize that a large mass of men can/would be culled in their youth based on your logic because they’re not all as productive as you claim here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:21 PM
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So you’re a zoophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:20 PM
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I don’t need to sign you up. Sex bots are a thing now, as well as flesh lights and VR porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:20 PM
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I never did. Are you mentally well and able to read English to a proficient degree? Assuming something is there to fit your bias doesn’t mean it actually is. Unless explicitly stated, please don’t assume my words mean anything other than what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:19 PM
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You’ve been given several reasons, I saw one comment where you let your zoophilic tendencies slip. Since that is where you are at you’re being given solutions that are favorable to you. According to your logic men offer nothing but money and women offer nothing but sex. So you’d be perfect for a woman that thinks the same. Why are you so opposed to dating a woman who is compatible with you? Or using a sex bot? Why do you want sex from a different kind of woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:18 PM
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I made plenty of sense. I’ll break it down another way. Say you’re hungry and you don’t care what you eat. You’d be open to trying any kind of food to find one you like. However, what the men we’re discussing are doing is constantly trying hamburgers. They may try hamburgers from other restaurants and different kinds of hamburgers but it’s still always a hamburger. When the hamburgers leave them unsatisfied that’s when they decide to try sushi or chicken. It’s what American men are doing they’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 02:52 PM
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They gave you a reason and a solution. You would be a perfect fit for women who only value men for their money. You have the same view towards relationships so you’re compatible on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:10 PM
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What reason is there to be with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:09 PM
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Fun, emotional intimacy, partnership etc. If you’re not getting that and you find dealing with women tedious there are options to get your sexual needs met without being around women. Why do you want sex from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:08 PM
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A woman from America otherwise he wouldn’t have bothered looking there and would have focused his efforts on international dating from the very start. He also wouldn’t be using disillusionment with dating in America as his reasoning for going abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:07 PM
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No, it doesn't. If there's a sufficient number of men saying the same thing, it does not matter how many women are saying it; they're not in competition or being compared. The statement is that men are viewed more attractively when in countries with people who don't generally look like they do. There's no qualifier about women in there. The fact that you don't understand this is laughable. 1) the number of men in your first link was not sufficient 2) if this is being framed as a uniquely male ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:06 PM
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Guys want that yet they were on this very sub the other day saying most porn stars are ugly or average? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:08 AM
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Neither are upgrading. As they both initially wanted something else. That was their first pick. They didn’t go looking for something else until after they failed at securing what they originally desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:07 AM
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That's not true at all. It doesn't have to be mostly about men. It is not a zero-sum argument. The anecdotes of men do not have to make up the majority of the whole for the male examples to remain valid. If we’re discussing men, yes it does. Especially given the context of this sub where they feel women have certain sexual privileges/advantages over men. Using women to prove your point is insufficient if you take the former to be true because it could just as easily be hypothesized that somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:06 AM
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https://images.app.goo.gl/6igK5mMCvjFifnbd6
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:32 AM
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The woman does want to fuck her second option as she does fuck him. Those are the men women have multiple kids with and unless they’re all conceived through immaculate conception or ivf sex is required. They’re attracted to their husbands and they fuck their husbands. They just would’ve been more attracted to the guys they couldn’t get. Same with men going abroad they’re attracted to and fuck the women they get but those women are their second choice. If they could get attractive women in their …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:30 AM
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This entire discussion is about men going to foreign countries. So if your argument is that they are viewed as more physically attractive in foreign countries you need to provide examples with anecdotes mostly from men not from women. You did a much better job here proving your point by including examples from men. Good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:28 AM
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It doesn’t look unnatural. That’s where taking facial harmony into consideration comes into play. They make subtle changes so you leave looking better but people wouldn’t be able to tell whether or not you had work done unless they saw what you looked like before. They can also marry pretty girls with money as many do. Whether the beauty of their wife is natural or bought doesn’t really matter. She’s still pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:38 PM
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My argument boils down to this: in order to make the affirmative claim that mens looks are benefiting them abroad more so than the allure of moving to a more developed country you need to show me something where it’s majority testimonials from men. Not just 2 guys where one didn’t even say if it was attributed to his looks or not. That’s negligible. Sorry if it’s offends you, but hopefully you learn from this and find better sources next time(:
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:36 PM
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The man is going to another country after finding to find an option in his country. The woman is getting the husband material man after not getting commitment. They both want to fuck their partners and they both would’ve have chosen something different if what they originally wanted was available. The man that went to another country would not have done so if a western woman gave him a chance on his terms. It’s the same as a women going for a different kind of huh when she didn’t get the other t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:44 PM
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I have already and the ones who went to good doctors usually end up looking better because their surgeons take facial harmony into consideration and don’t give them new features that will disrupt that. If you want a good looking guy with money you need to be good looking too. Just having money isn’t enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:41 PM
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I read the source material and saw that the majority of the examples they gave pertained to women so it doesn’t help your case. Pick a better source next time instead of getting upset that the one you chose was insufficient. That’s juvenile behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:40 PM
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Bone structure can be bought now too. Plastic surgery has advanced a lot the past decade and some countries more than others. No one needs plastic surgery. They just get it because it makes them look better. Women with money included.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:21 AM
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It only makes you look like the joker if you go to a cheap or unlicensed surgeon. If you spend the money for a quality one they make you look good. Yet so many already show up with women with surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:08 AM
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You can buy looks. It’s called plastic surgery, a personal trainer, esthetician and style consultation. If you can afford to buy looks you have money to marry a man with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:04 AM
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I read what you linked and all the anecdotes listed. From your own example it shows the exoticism factor applied much more to women than men so your point is moot. Once again I stand by my previous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:40 AM
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The girl in the scenario also wants to fuck her husband. The guy in the scenario also wants to fuck other women. It’s the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:39 AM
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They are with those men. Those men just feel like they’re second best because they were picked due to being husband material and not hookup material. Moving countries is the same concept. You couldn’t get what you originally wanted so you went for something else. It’s the same thing in principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:40 AM
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Just as women are attracted to and want to be with the husband material guys. The main point is the partner still feels like a consolation prize because you were their backup option and not the first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:34 AM
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It’s real life and happens every day. Women purchase beauty and then improve the quality of men they have access to and can get commitment from.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:33 AM
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And if western women never act to correct it the problem will continue into perpetuity. You’re assuming it will all work out as planned. When there are other variables at play, they could instead push to normalize polygamy and be more open about soft harems with attractive men, they could popularize paradoxical sexual/romantic relationships like they do in Japan etc. If any of that happens the problem won’t correct and a group of non western men will now have to shoulder the problems westerners …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:32 AM
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I read the article. When they actually got to the anecdotes it was 6 women and one man. The man made no mentions of his appearance increasing his options. So I stand by what I said above.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:28 AM
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I’m not talking about them prostituting. I’m talking about women leveling up into the kind of women those men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:35 PM
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Why would it not be a large payout? Now men in impoverished countries are in the same boat as men in the west because as with many other things when westerners ruin things in their own countries they seek solace in less developed nations and make the situation worse there. Now you’ve exported the same problem you complain about happening in your country to another country. The foreign woman who would’ve paired with a man in her country is now gone increasing the competition for women among men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:26 PM
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It is insincere. To use your example it’d be more like the charity giving their executives large payouts with the donated money vs giving more of it to the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:12 PM
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Whether or not she can is limited only by her wallet same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:11 PM
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Honestly speaking the stigma really only applies if the woman is average or ugly or the man is significantly older than her. If they’re within 10 years of each other’s age and/or the woman is beautiful the stigma doesn’t apply. An exception is made for those type of couples even though they’re doing the same thing as the ones who are stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:11 PM
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They can do whatever they want within the confines of the law. Just as I can say what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:09 PM
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Everyone has adopted a juice isn’t worth the squeeze mentality and that’s the “rotten” thing that’s happened. People are realizing relationships are liabilities and instead of just blinding taking the risk in the name of romance like previous generations, they’re more cautious. Largely because they saw the dissolution of other marriages before them and the adverse effects in had on people of their gender and they want no parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:08 PM
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They can get that if they can mold themselves into the type of women those men like. Those men become divorced and widowed and new ones come up every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:58 PM
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Consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:58 PM
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Women can and do rent a high value man if you’re referring to looks. If you’re referring to income then you’re half right. They can invest in ways to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:48 PM
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And men call that escorting and sugar babying. Not sure why they’re suddenly switching up when the woman is foreign.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:48 PM
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Sure, when men aren’t up to women’s standards for whatever reason. Could be looks, hobbies, hygiene, values etc she’ll either reject him or try to work with the situation. More women these days are just opting to reject men who don’t fit whatever bill they’re looking for because they fear wasting time on a miserable relationship. A lot of men are getting rejected over things they feel are trivial and they complain that women’s standards are too high. Either jokingly by saying how easy it is for …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:45 PM
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For situations like this more candid photos typically work better. Like laughing to capture a pic of your smile vs forcing a fake one. If it doesn’t bother you though that’s fair enough. I was just offering friendly advice because I used to suck at taking photos of myself too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:35 PM
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There’s many of them that aren’t because they think there is a severe deficit of certain feminine qualities among western women so many stay perpetual bachelors until they find what they want. If they don’t find it in a western women they may find it in an immigrant woman that came or was brought over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:33 PM
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Doesn’t matter what it is. The point is it’s insincere to complain about hypergamy when you’re benefiting from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:32 PM
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A large part of that is because of how Americans treat their foreign spouses. I’m from an immigrant family myself and have seen a lot of crazy stuff with green card marriages. Like the American spouse constantly threading to send the foreign spouse back or stop the visa process if they don’t do exactly what they want. As you can already guess every time I saw a case like that the foreign spouse immediately dumped the American after getting their green card. The only time I’ve seen it last if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:43 PM
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Not true. Certain ethnicities are definitely more attractive to foreign women than men of their own ethnicity. It’s 100% true because when you ask for expansion on those answers a lot has to do with financial perceptions based on race. It’s not ingenuous. It’s a measure for men to use until women’s standards drop somewhat and the market corrects itself. It definitely takes some work and money to meet foreign women, but it’s a better choice than just giving up like OP suggests. It’s 100% disingen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:40 PM
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They think they don’t have better options. Often that’s not true and once their self esteem improves so do their options. I’ll give an example of a former friend. She let a guy who reciprocated nothing blow up her life because she felt she deserved that kind of poor treatment due to the home environment she grew up in. Once he did something too deplorable that shocked even her sensibilities, she picked herself up, changed her name, got into therapy and now she’s in a relationship that’s leagues …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:38 PM
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My point is that when they come to the west, they can cheat and branch swing to higher earning men craving certain feminine attributes that are perceived to be lacking in western culture if they are sufficiently attractive. Their values and cultural upbringing add an extra appeal for certain kinds of men who feel there is a deficit for those type of women in the west. So even if she’s being treated well by the guy who brought her over it doesn’t really matter. What matters is whether or not ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:35 PM
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From reading that article it seems the exoticism is mostly what women experienced but they didn’t expand on it for the men. So it’s not clear cut as to whether they received more attention due to their looks or other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:32 PM
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Men don’t do that. Especially if they were able to get sex with more than one woman in their lifetime. The hottest person they may have had sex with could’ve been crazy, dumped them, the man may not have been ready for marriage etc. So then marry the hottest and most sane woman around at the time they’re ready to settle down. This doesn’t mean their wife is the hottest they’ve ever slept with in their life. It’s the same with women. The hottest man she sept with could’ve pumped and dumped her, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:29 PM
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That all depends on whether she actually loves him or if the marriage is purely for utility. If she loves him it’s hurtful to know your partner doesn’t reciprocate your feelings, if she doesn’t then she probably doesn’t care and will entertain things as long as he’s holding up his end of the bargain and a better deal doesn’t come along for her to switch to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:01 PM
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If you closely observe these relationships. They’re really getting nothing from the men but the ability to say they’re not single. These women honestly and truly have low self esteem. I’ve seen plenty of relationships like this and I used to date like that myself. The men aren’t bringing anything to the table sexually, romantically or financially. They’re just there mitigating the loneliness of women who feel a bad relationship is better than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:58 PM
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It’s not necessarily about pursuing casual sex. It’s about maximizing their appeal to land a better quality ltr and lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:45 PM
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The same reason men are upset about being “husband material”. The intentions are often interpreted as being the safe option to settle for and not what your partner really wants. Like if he could’ve gotten a hot western women to act in the manner she does, would he have picked her over his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:44 PM
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Physically speaking they’re not more attractive, they’re just more economically attractive. As an above commenter said. It’s a sugar baby dynamic. Those women are trying to escape poverty. Also it seems disingenuous to condemn hypergamy in the west when you advocate for men to use it to their advantage in developing countries. It shows you really don’t care about mens situation because you would be putting men from poorer countries in the same situation as men in the west if it becomes widesprea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:42 PM
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They’re usually not. The women accepting this have low self esteem and low expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:37 PM
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Women are operating in that manner but what’s frustrating a lot of men is that they think the level or rejection isn’t balanced out with the level of acceptance. So now things are at a stalemate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:37 PM
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Unless he’s abusive she’s probably better off there than trying to start over in this dating landscape. Especially if they open up their relationship sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:52 PM
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Women also marry their best. They marry the best man they can get at the time just like men marry the best woman they can get at the time. Doesn’t negate the fact that they’d enjoy sex with hotter people more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:11 AM
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Ask away
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:09 AM
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Fair enough lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:10 AM
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Her liking sex with her beta husband doesn’t mean she didn’t like sex with her chad fuck buddy. Importantly if he committed she would like the sex with him even more. This is something I don’t get and it really just seems like a hypocritical complaint. If men could’ve gotten a hotter woman than the one they landed with they would enjoy sex with her more than the average woman they settled down with. If the sex is still enjoyable though why is it really an issue? The issue usually arises with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:51 AM
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We actually do need to understand. Having context makes it easier to understand where you’re coming from, why you think the way you do, how you came to the conclusions that you did, why you think they’re valid etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:47 AM
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They do need to get to that number is they actually like casual sex. Men and women who are really into casual sex reach an N of 50 and well beyond. Most women don’t even get up to 15. It’s not because they can’t it’s because they don’t have interest in sport fucking like many men do. Just look at how frequently lesbians have random hookups compared to gay men. It’s not for lack of options, it’s for lack of desire engage in that kind of thing. If women wanted to sport fuck like hot men do, they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:46 AM
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They don’t have so much of it and it’s a driving factor behind many mens complaints about sexual imbalances. If women liked casual sex all that much they’d be having more of it with more men, a wider variety of men and they’d have body counts that rival the most promiscuous men. Some women treat their ltrs like shit for the same reasons they treat their hookups like shit. Some of them aren’t great people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:43 AM
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Well she probably wanted security and a present father for her kids. She’s not going to get that from a ons. Dating as a divorcee and single mother is harder than dating as a childless woman too. Mens aversion to single moms for long term relationships isn’t a secret. If that couple goes to therapy maybe they can work it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:39 AM
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Depending on where you’re posting you could ask for a beta tester to help correct your grammar and make your writing flow better. It’s more of a matter of whether or not you can think up good ideas. If you can do that your literary skills can be worked around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:36 AM
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And it’s the same for women who hate fucking their husbands, also stress, emotional degradation of the relationships etc. If you don’t keep yourself up and keep your relationship emotionally healthy your sex life within it will suffer. Not really a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:34 AM
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It does, women date differently. OLD now has the stigma of being for hookups, even apps that allegedly are more dating focused. So women would rather take their chances in person and try to date from their social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:31 AM
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Yeah there’s way more men on old than women, and a lot of the women there are looking for something more serious or they’re just swiping to see what’s out there without actually intending to meet anyone. So this lowers the pool of women looking for casual sex even further for men when it was already small on apps to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:30 AM
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Have you tried looking up how to take better photos, how to work your angles lighting etc. In order to take better pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:27 AM
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This is very true. Guys with 3 digit body counts will tell you. You don’t get a number that high just by banging hot chicks, half of the women you sleep with won’t even be average looking. They’ll fall all along the looks spectrum and that’s how they get so many hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:26 AM
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It’s not just the cock asshole in the pic though. They’ll have their abdomen in the dick pic to show off more of their body along with the dick. And they’ll have their whole ass or part of their back in the pic as well not just the hole. So there’s other things there to be aroused by than just the pole or hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:21 AM
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So if a woman sent you a picture of her unkempt, unhygienic vagina in an unflattering lighting and pose. With no regard as to whether or not you’re even in an appropriate environment to receive that kind of pic it would arouse you? The reason women don’t like it is because the dick pics are rarely sent by attractive strangers, they’re unexpected so anyone could be around when it comes in and they’re mostly unflattering. There’s nothing to be excited about. And your argument doesn’t even make sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:17 AM
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If you actually looked it up you’d see unsourced guessing at her romantic life with no true verification or evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:28 PM
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It is the same thing in principle. Both are trying to get something nearly unobtainable. In my elementary school they taught that you get what you get and you don’t get upset. Whether you get nothing, something crappy or something great you don’t make a fuss and just deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:27 PM
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She hasn’t you can literally look it up. There’s always rumors about her romantic life. Like how she was married when she wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:24 PM
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She hasn’t had multiple boyfriends or dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:52 AM
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TRP men do not want relationships. They want the partyboy/f-boy lifestyle with lots of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:51 AM
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It is the same thing in principle. They’re both complaining about not getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:51 AM
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That’s not the question. Whether she is or not. Why should she be with men she’s not excited to be with. What’s the incentive/motivation to do so? Is there an answer for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:49 AM
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When women say they don’t need men. They mean they don’t need to have close personal intimate relationships with men. On a macro scale both genders are needed to propel society. On an individual level though, intimate personal relationships aren’t really a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:47 AM
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Most men are in a position to have those requirements and they do have them. Where they start dropping off is personality. They’ll sacrifice what could’ve/would’ve been personality requirements to get more in terms of physical attractiveness, sexual history etc. So personality is the only one they’ll drop off to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:33 AM
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They also have requirements for weight, sexual history, personality etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:00 AM
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You know it is possible to have prefferences and requirements at the same time? Yes. This is correct. Also, they have requirements. Men that don't meet them don't even get settled for. As do men yet you still defend the view that men don’t have requirements. If a man refuses to date a woman for x criteria, that criteria is a requirement. So then men do have requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:07 PM
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It factually is true. Exceptionally attractive people are a minority, just like wealthy people. There’s enough wealthy men for exceptionally beautiful women. It’s why the most beautiful women are able to leverage their beauty in the way that they do. They can come from nothing and marry very powerful wealthy men just off the merit of their face/body and charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:35 AM
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They don’t have them according to your logic, they’re simply “preferences” otherwise settling wouldn’t even be a thing. According to your logic they just have preferences and men just get treated accordingly based on how well they fit them. Men also refuse to date women who don’t meet their “preferences” yet you say that’s not a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:30 AM
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The average home isn’t a consolation prize, it’s the best fit that you have a fondness for that wouldn’t be possible with any other home. The bottom of the barrel choice is the trailer park which is just as bad as the McMansion for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:29 AM
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There are enough rich guys to make up for the women that can get them. So a woman who has the option to date and marry rich men can weigh the reality of dating a rich one vs an average one. Anyway, someone else brought up and interesting point that the houses are actually stand ins for attractiveness not money. There’s enough attractive women for attractive women to date and marry. Yet there are pros and cons to dating and marrying those guys just as their are pros and cons to marrying average o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:27 AM
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Yeah I encountered the same with women offline and there’s a subreddit on here of women that express similar feelings. Rarely seen a mother miserable because of the kids themselves. Usually it’s because of the circumstances surrounding them becoming mothers that caused(and continues to cause) their misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:25 AM
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Then that means women don’t have requirements either. Yet men complain that women treat them worse than “better” men when the woman settles for them for whatever reason. They say the things women desire are requirements and you’ll be treated like crap if you get with her and don’t meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:22 AM
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I said nothing about it being ok. Arguing the virtues of one over another implies that The reason why it is ok is because a human is nothing more than a body and the electrical/chemical patterns within it. So you don’t think someone’s personality, mindset etc are also what makes them them? Why are humans capable of rational thought and self actualizing then? Those things are not necessarily needed for survival. The brain could just allow us the ability for hunger and sex drives by your logic her…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:20 AM
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She would get him. The metaphor is about 3 viable options and their pros and cons. She could get the flashy rich guy, but the relationship would be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:11 AM
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It seems things flip flop everyday on this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:10 AM
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“Because fuck that part” is not a true answer try again. So you would rather women see you as cold, emotionally, distant and not a true partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:09 AM
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Men in general do. It’s why average to unattractive men will simp for beautiful women and bend over backwards to accommodate them whether they have a chance with her or not. Yet they don’t do the same for other women. So once again, men(in general) have requirements. They just view being single as worse than foregoing them. You can see the difference clear as day though in the way they interact with different types of women. The closer you are to his ideal the better you get treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:44 PM
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Depending on what exactly makes your partner mediocre it can wear on you. If you’re not sexually attracted to them, you don’t have the same communication style and you’re not all that compatible the relationship will be miserable because you don’t actually like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:41 PM
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Men do require something out of women otherwise all women would get hot girl treatment once a guy commits to her. The fact that the way men treat women varies from woman to woman says all. They have requirements they just don’t prioritize their requirements over being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:39 PM
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If you think western women are that terrible and want to try other women why not? They have good quality translation devices for cheap. Unless you have a learning disability which is a valid excuse learning another language is mostly about time and effort. If you put time into studying and review and practice consistently you’ll get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:37 PM
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So it’s ok to get dumped once your looks fade but not ok to get dumped when you run out of money, emotional intelligence etc. How does that make sense? I’m using you in the general sense not the specific
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:36 PM
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She does like the guy because of the emotional warmth and connection he provides. If it was about money they’d go for the flashy rich one, however that one isn’t a good choice because they can’t provide warmth or emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:34 PM
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There were negative descriptors for both though. The showy mansion was also described as being too high maintenance, lacking the feeling of home and unable to meet the needs of the potential home buyer. Why ignore that part?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:33 PM
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There’s more nuance to the science. A lot of women with kids are miserable because they didn’t really want them but they still succumbed to the social/familial pressure to have them. Or they underestimated the lifestyle change that would come from having them. Women who are fully informed and choosing to have kids purely of their own volition aren’t more miserable than women who don’t have kids purely of their own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:29 PM
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Your logic is off. Conservative religious people having more kids doesn’t mean those kids will grow up to continue the cycle. There’s a lot of kids from conservative religious families who grew up to be liberal and secular because their parents choices didn’t mesh well with their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:26 PM
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They can learn another language, or use a translator device. Also if this is the reason wouldn’t it apply to women as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:24 PM
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So then why don’t more men leave America? The vast majority of American men never expatriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:52 PM
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Those aren’t rights or privileges, those are simply the outcomes of gendered choices when attempting suicide. Men are more likely to use more lethal methods like firearms, they’re also more likely to own firearms in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:52 PM
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They’re still a minority when you measure them against the population of dissatisfied Americans as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:50 PM
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You have several options which we went over already. If you’re at the mercy of the mother and you weren’t raped, it’s because your choices led you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:50 PM
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If it’s that grave of a risk, you’d do everything possible to avoid it. I’m also speaking from personal experience here. This is what I’ve done and I’ve never had a pregnancy scare. You keep saying all she has to do is get an abortion as if that’s such an easy thing. Would you feel the same if a doctor/surgeon had to go inside of your body with the potential risk of you being infertile first before signing your paternal rights away? Or if you were required to take a pill that induced severe ineb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:57 PM
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Did you use spermicide, get a vasectomy, go with her to her birth control appointments, track her ovulation, and vet to make sure the woman agrees with getting an abortion for herself and that she’s not the “pro-choice, but pro-life for myself” type? Just using 1 type of birth control method isn’t a good idea even if the margin of error is low. It’s best to have 1-2 other methods you’re using as a fail safe. You don’t get screwed in the butt. If you don’t want to talk to, engage with or see the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:50 PM
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It has everything to do with the subject. Unless you’re referring only to state funded abortions then using that as a barometer for whether or not men should be able to abandon their kids makes no sense. The woman is not going through a free and easy painless procedure. Having an abortion is not the same as just walking away. Which is why I used the shooting example. Men are the loaded gun, women are the ones shot. What you’re doing is like a shooter saying he should not be jailed for shooting b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:42 PM
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They make perfect sense if you have working literary proficiency in English. We are talking about birth control. His persuasive ability is his way to avoid paying for 18 years. Also you didn’t answer the question. Should shooting be legalized because surgeons can save people from bullet wounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:15 PM
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We are talking about birth control. Something both genders have equal access to. If the father wants to keep the baby and the mother doesn’t he can get a surrogate. He has the ability to have a child on his terms just like she does. Men can get rid of the responsibility by sleeping with women who’s views align with theirs, using their birth control options and using their persuasive skills if an unplanned pregnancy occurs. Let me ask you this, should shootings be legalized because there are surg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 07:35 AM
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Or keep abortion legal, expand male birth control options and provide more resources for rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:43 PM
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A woman can’t baby trap a man who is clipped, vets well and brings his own condoms for safe measure. The only men I’ve met who were “baby trapped” were sexually reckless or raped. The ones who were raped I feel truly sorry for and they should have more resources available to help them. The ones who are sexually reckless though get the same amount of sympathy from me that women do, which is very little. Sucks that it happened but ultimately you knew what you were getting into and as such you’re r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:50 PM
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A man can also clean up his mess by doing his part to avoid pregnancy or paying for the child he chose to help create.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:53 AM
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A vasectomy would be equal to an abortion because they’re both an operation. Abortions are just more invasive. Abortions, birth control and vasectomies all have chances of sterilization. Men have more options than women to not be parents and they are more affordable and more easily accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:52 AM
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So then don’t have children with a crazy woman. Both men and women have the power/privilege to dictate who they have children with. The only exception is rape cases. No one that’s raped has emergency birth control as an option. They weren’t prepared for the situation. In consensual relationships though. Birth control is an option for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:50 AM
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Men do. They have their own methods of birth control and powers of persuasion. Too many men just prefer to leave pregnancy prevention solely up to the woman. You should never put your reproductive health solely in the hands of your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:45 PM
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If it’s not what you said and there was more context to the statement I would do the same as I’ve done here. No twisting, just relaying the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:41 PM
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Plenty of though. It’s mostly financial that’s holding them up. The ones that don’t trust relationships with women get surrogates if they have the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:12 AM
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You’re allowed to do whatever you want within the confines of the law. So that’s your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:11 AM
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Well if she’s just not in the mood without some sort of problem being present then just doing it is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:11 AM
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So then don’t have children with a crazy woman. Both men and women have the power/privilege to dictate who they have children with. The only exception is rape cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:05 AM
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I posted an article by a woman about actual woman saying the full phrase
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:04 AM
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Nope, prioritization. Some issues are viewed as more pressing. So they’ll be brought up when people bring up frivolous issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:26 PM
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So then your comments about men not wanting kids doesn’t make any sense? Choosing not to have them because of extenuating circumstances is different than not wanting them. People that really don’t want kids, wouldn’t have them even if there were ideal conditions to bring them into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:25 PM
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Prioritization.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:23 PM
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Abortions are equal to vasectomies. They both decided to forgo options that could’ve prevented an unwanted birth. So pay up for the kid you two decided to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:22 PM
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Because he gave a woman his sperm. So it’s his responsibility to clean up his part of the mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:21 PM
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It’s not about the woman that cheated. Unless you suggest just letting the kid starve someone has to foot the bill for that child. When the mom or dad can’t do it, it falls to taxpayers. Either the mom gets welfare or the kid is taken away and put in foster care. Both of which cost taxpayers money. Idk about you but I’m not in favor of letting children starve when they didn’t ask to be here, but I also would rather not pay for them either so both parents should pay if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:21 PM
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Yes they do actually whenever they sire children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:18 PM
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It depends on why she’s not in the mood. If it’s because she’s just not very horny at the moment then just doing it is fine, but if she’s not in the mood because of a negative emotional reason or fatigue it’s probably not a good idea. The tiredness/sadness anger will decrease the quality of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:17 PM
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Your comments give that impression. Either way. Most men aren’t against having kids the ones who care about the situation they can bring them into and can afford to have them are having them, the ones who don’t care what they bring their kids into are also having them. The ones who care what situation they bring their kids into and who can’t afford to have them are the ones who aren’t having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:12 PM
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All those YouTube results are videos by and of men. Here you go: https://www.essence.com/love/intimacy-intervention-men-only-want-me-sex-whats-wrong-me/?amp=1
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:10 PM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:54 AM
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The statement is “why are all these guys just approaching me for sex, all men just want one thing and it’s disgusting”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:43 AM
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As soon as you start talking to a single woman it's "he's only here to hit on the girls" Depends on how you go about it. If you do this it will be more of a slow burn. If you take your time to get to know people without immediately asking for their socials or numbers you’ll be fine. Immediately flagged as a pedophile (assuming you don't have kids of your own) Not if you spend equal time talking to the kids and adults. There are men already who work with kids for free and for pay just because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:29 AM
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Because you specifically are CF and don’t have that desire. Doesn’t mean you should extrapolate it to the larger population. I don’t want kids, my views aren’t representative of the average woman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:27 AM
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If you quote the whole statement the “from me” is actually in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:26 AM
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I’ve read all of your comments. You’ve said exactly what I said above. “All” in the sense you’re using it means their male family members are included.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:37 AM
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I responded in full. If you’re just focusing on the word “all” without the context that the statements are made in then you agree that their male family members fall under that umbrella. Something you’ve agreed with twice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:31 AM
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It does work for men if you join meetups for female dominated hobbies. Ones that are male dominated are obviously going to be sausage feats as are gender neutral ones. If you pick things that are stereotypically associated with women in your area more likely than not, it will be predominantly women there. Try going to yoga meetups/classes, volunteer activities with kids etc. Activities that are more creative and nurturing is where you’ll find a lot of women. Other activities that men also enjoy(…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:29 AM
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So you do think women think their male family members want to use them for sex. Why get offended when I accurately repeated your sentiments?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:24 AM
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Due to financial hardship and other factors. Not simply die to lack of desire. People who can afford the kids are still having them. https://qz.com/1125805/the-reason-the-richest-women-in-the-us-are-the-ones-having-the-most-kids/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:22 AM
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Which as I’ve said repeatedly they say after a man has pursued used them or someone they care about for sex. I then asked you if you really think they’re including their male family members in the aforementioned. You said yes to that. Which prompted my earlier response.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:36 PM
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There’s less incentive yet people are still doing it. Less incentive simply means less people will partake. Not that absolutely no one will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:33 PM
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Yet there’s still kids being born to present loving fathers in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:32 PM
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It wouldn’t die out. It’d just shrink down significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:31 PM
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They would. The barrier to entry would be higher but once you reach it there’s less reason to worry about him cheating or just dating you for steady access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:28 PM
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Til apparently most women think their fathers,grandfathers and brothers are trying to use them for sex. Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:24 PM
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Because they’re talking about all the men that approach them. Not all men to ever walk this earth. Unless you genuinely think they’re including their fathers, brothers and grandfathers in the list of men that want to fuck them? Sorry your lies and ignorance of context only work with pickmes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:21 PM
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There’s outrage at womens high standards too. At the end of the day though. Your standards are your business. My only point is when people are getting their standards met, or at the very least they don’t have sufficient incentive to lower them, they won’t. If a guy had an ex with big boobs, why would he date girls with small boobs when he can continue to get girls with big boobs? If small boobs aren’t his preference he’s only going to go for that if he can’t get big boob girls and being with a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:46 AM
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It’s to shame men that want sex with them and you can tell by the context that’s it’s said in. It’s always when a man or several men have made some sort of unwanted sexual advances/action towards her and she shamed them to express her annoyance at what they’ve done to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:44 AM
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All of them have the potential for a slow burn except the library. In every single one they’re probably weekly or monthly activities where you can get to know the recurrent attendees and build a bond. From there you can see who is feeling you vs who isn’t and whether or not you can try to turn things romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:42 AM
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This doesn’t add up because another dominant narrative on this sub is that being a virgin or sexually inexperienced hurts your chances with women. Claiming it’s a norm for women to go after virgin/inexperienced men directly contradicts that. So what’s the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:22 PM
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Right? Like usually on here they claim it’s the opposite and that being a virgin or inexperienced man is a detriment when dealing with women and a sure fire way to get ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:19 PM
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The first isn’t to shame men that want sex. It’s to shame men that want just sex from them and maybe their friends too. They don’t care about those men pumping and dumping random women they don’t know, or women they know aren’t seeking relationships. They only care once they’re directly involved. Nothing contradictory about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:18 PM
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If they think that it’s because they’re usually hot enough to and have dated men who can provide more than that. So why would they sacrifice on looks for “only” 6figs when there are men offering more? Think of it on the flip side. If you were dating several women some of them average to slightly above average looking, others complete and total smoke shows. Would you wait for sex with the average to slightly above average if the total smoke shows weren’t making you wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:12 PM
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You can approach women at those places if you’re tactful about it. It will also be a slow burn which is incompatible with this generation that prefers instant results.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:08 PM
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It’s two-fold. The main point of working on yourself is to improve aspects of your life that can lead to overall happiness. Having more friends to improve your social life. Gaining more skills to have more interesting experiences, open up more/better job opportunities etc. The boost on your romantic life is secondary. People also say it because if you don’t like where you are, usually there’s a lot you can do to change it. So if you’re not where you want to be it makes sense to put in effort to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:02 PM
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Not even friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:05 PM
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Most don’t and among those that do, a lot of it is likely due to the stress of having kids vs them just simply hiding their intentions to trap a man. People do change as they get older and that can change the dynamics of the relationship but if they really love each these changes won’t be a bad thing. They’ll just grow together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:04 PM
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Doesn’t answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:55 AM
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Still a whoosh. You don’t actually need to interact with women yourself to achieve your goals. You can screenshot conversations of others interactions and use that to make your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:54 AM
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Women don’t understand because instead of focusing on how they don’t want to deal with baby father drama or raising kids when they don’t have any. Men go on and on about single mothers are terrible people, ruining society yada yada. You’re not going to get unanimous agreement from women if you do the latter but you’ll get agreement if you do the former. A lot of men think they’re doing the former but they’re really doing the latter and that’s why they perceive there to be a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:32 AM
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Because it’s harder to develop a bond with an older child than a younger one. Especially if the divorce was messy or there’s some parental drama. If they’re younger it’s less likely that the kid will develop dislike towards their parents new partner due to the other parents goading. They’ll be young enough where that kind of stuff isn’t as impactful, especially if the new partner is very kind to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:26 AM
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The answer would’ve been yes maybe a year or two ago but doing that usually comes with a lot of drama. So now I wouldn’t unless I also had kids or he was a widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:22 AM
1

It’s a whoosh for you. You can do what the sub name says while only engaging with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:20 AM
1

So would you say FDS is right in the regard that you should only tell men that you’ve only had excellent dating experiences with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:19 AM
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I am talking about the western world and they’re not simps. There are a decent number of simps but they’re by no means the majority. It seems you’re using the former definition so I guess in your eyes the majority are simps because they’re not patriarchs ruling with an iron fist(or wanna bes at the very least). Most men fall somewhere in between simps and misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:31 PM
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If you use simp to mean a man who isn’t rude and antagonistic to women needlessly sure. But if you’re using the original meaning of simp most men aren’t simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:52 AM
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You can say a lot of things that aren’t as crass as let’s fuck that get the message across. If the guy isn’t reciprocating it’s because he’s not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:10 PM
1

I would politely break things off and wish them the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:06 PM
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I can say the same about every racist, misandrist and any other type of angry person I’ve met. At a certain point you have to learn to work through your trauma and do better. Vs being angry at entire groups because you feel victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:00 PM
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Many can’t afford to. Plus even if they could they may be in a group where they’re internationally low value so they’d be stuck in a similar boat as they were in their western country. Where they’re not getting any play from women unless they pay for it. The upside is that it’s cheaper to buy sex in the countries you listed but at that point is it really worth uprooting your life, moving away from family, downgrading your overall quality of life and starting over? This only works if you’re a som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:37 PM
1

Bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:34 PM
5

If what you said was true then they would preach so much about spinning plates and how married red pill or red pills in LTRs are red pill on hard mode. There’s clearly a preference for one relationship type(polyamory) over another in the red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:31 PM
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If you like drama and the feeling of chasing a guy for a relationship that realistically won’t pan out then they’re a great choice. They can perpetually provide excitement from this type of experience. Or at the very least until you’re replaced with a plate that’s hotter. If you want a healthy loving relationship, good sex, a partner that makes time for you, monogamy, marriage etc red pill men are the worst choice for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:28 PM
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If tons of people understood what it meant though then who was really to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:25 PM
1

Having less sexual partners doesn’t automatically mean they’re less sexually desired. It can also be inferred that they’re more sexually responsible. You don’t get super high numbers by doing excessive quality control on your partners. At most it’ll be checking for stds. It can also be inferred that those men are serial monogamists vs being very into causal sex. Something that would also keep their numbers low.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:10 PM
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Yeah, but these “skilled experts” often start YouTube channels, podcasts and end up selling something and even if they don’t they’re still getting paid off their social media views. They also know their advice doesn’t work for certain kinds of guys but they will never say that and sometimes pretend it does anyway just to keep the views coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:21 AM
1

Which is why you can just as easily infer that high N women don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:19 AM
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She’s not paying for you lol. When you go to a restaurant do you think they’re paying for you in food because you paid in cash? Or are they simply doing what they’re, hopefully, good at and you’re soliciting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:19 AM
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Yeah they were just shamming those poor guys for money because they were easy targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:17 AM
1

It doesn’t because it adds more time on the back end when you have to end up screening them anyway and there’s more steps to unmatch someone than to just swipe left. It’s inefficient because actually ends up costing you more time. As you said. Your rate of finding your type stays the same, add the maybes in there too but there are clearly people that aren’t your type that you should swipe left on. So again, agree to disagree. The logic here isn’t sound, but people don’t always make rational deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:17 AM
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Men do the same thing. It’s life, just ignore those people and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:47 PM
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Yes you can, as it doesn’t explicit state what high socio sexual women prefer so you can just as easily infer that they have no preference or that their tastes are split. Low N women prefer nice guys does not automatically mean high N women prefer bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:44 PM
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It’s because their scam is well known now. It’s like a crappy business that flew under the radar until people started leaving bad reviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:27 PM
1

From the quote you could also just as easily infer than when a woman is high n and does emphasize sex that she doesn’t care about the man’s n or sexual experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:25 PM
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It doesn’t make sense for men either based on what you all have told me here. It doesn’t save time, it’s not more efficient and it doesn’t increase the chances of your type matching with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:24 PM
1

You’re paying the prostitute a fee to have sex with her. She’s not paying you for access to your bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:23 PM
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English might not be their first language. This sub seems dominated by people from English speaking nations. However there are a few people on here who are from countries where English isn’t the dominant language.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:36 AM
2

An ugly guy pulling isn’t always happening because he’s mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:32 AM
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You’re advocating for being mean to women. What’s the problem with them doing it back? It’s just reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:29 AM
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If that was the situation. It would be the shunning that stung, not what the guy said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:28 AM
2

Some do want that because if you have equal financial stake in the relationship it allows you more freedom, bargaining power and independence. A man can hold the fact that he’s paying the bills/expenses over your head if you’re also paying them. There’s also a lot of women that also just say that because if they can’t get a provider 50/50 is better than them being the breadwinner. So they’ll ask for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:27 AM
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That’s not what your quote says at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:24 AM
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The girls are mentally ill and think that their only options are deadbeat guys so they pick their poison or forego relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:22 AM
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It is. You pay the escort and have sex with her for an allotted amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:09 AM
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Exactly. At lot of the ones that are in that casual sex mental state still probably do it themselves though. They just try to rationalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:09 AM
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What I mean are the fish do not have equal value to you, and you don’t want certain kinds of fish, so it makes sense to just catch the ones you actually want. Again strategy makes no sense. No one has been able to sufficiently justify it because you can get the same results from swiping on your type anyway lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:06 AM
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I might do this if I’m busy or stressed. But I usually will give a heads up that I’m going to be busy unless it was something completely unforeseen that I didn’t plan for. If a woman does this to you and she gives no heads up she either doesn’t like you, is extremely shy or she finds the conversation boring but isn’t interesting enough herself to pick up or she’s put in the effort and got nothing from the guy so she’s matching his energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:03 AM
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Thanks this is good info.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:07 AM
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When you’re un matching you have to go back and look at pics anyway plus click on extra stuff to unmatch and then confirm or decline the prompted reasoning. That takes 2-3 minutes vs looking at a pic or two from the start and swiping left if you don’t like what you see. So when you swipe right on someone jo should’ve been a left swipe you’re adding on more time on the back end when you unmatch them that could’ve been saved by simply swiping left in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:06 AM
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I noticed this too with one of my cousins. He has no intentions of being exclusive with anyone for at least another 10 years. He has the option to choose from detached girls who will have sex with him with no expectations but he prefers the ones that are devoted and trying to convince him to date them. So I’ve definitely noticed what you’re talking about play out irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:54 PM
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But fish aren’t fish as you don’t want to keep all of them. You only want specific ones and throw the rest so it makes sense to go for the fish you do want from the get go instead of going around catching fish you don’t want, crabs, and all other organisms that live in water.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:52 PM
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You would have access to it, but not in perpetuity. You can use your allotted time to clear it out or transfer all available funds to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:51 PM
2

Thanks this is very useful information. If it’s woman who doesn’t drink what’s your next move?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:32 PM
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When men do find it though many get put off because she’s so detached. Why is that? Isn’t it better to not have someone that’s emotionally attached to you so you don’t have to deal with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:30 PM
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If you don’t have kids and you’re not married yeah. If you are married it’s probably worth at least going to counseling to fix before divorcing because that can get messy. But if you tried your best and it’s still not working with your spouse it’s fair to open up the marriage or end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:23 PM
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It depends on what kind of guy you’re married to. If you’re married to a man you’re not attracted to and you relationship has developed into a mommy son dynamic and you’re both working full time jobs. You’re going to be miserable, especially if there are kids involved. Marriage isn’t the only way to get time, attention and sex from the opposite sex. A single women is unattached, doesn’t have this miserable dynamic to come home too and she has the freedom to date and sleep with men she’s attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:20 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:17 PM
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True objectivity does not exist So you were simply spewing nonsense this entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:15 PM
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It would also be the case for 90% or guys. It takes less time to look at a pic and swipe left or right during the initial algorithm than it does to scroll through and clean up your matches later on. There’s way less steps in the former than the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:14 PM
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I’m challenging your first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:12 PM
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I was agreeing with you and bolstering your point. Did you mean to tag fools errand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:12 PM
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There are plenty already. They’re called pick mes and they go above and beyond to please men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:52 AM
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And? This is like complaining that people pay for gym memberships and personal training when there’s free exercise equipment and fitness YouTube videos available. Some people prefer paying for it because it gets them more specific and tailored content without having to endlessly scroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:50 AM
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A bank account doesn’t have to be a lifetime contractual commitment of the body. If you’re comparing it to escorting. The woman could have access to it for an hour or a day just like a man has access to an escorts body for an hour or a day. Then if you want access again you pay again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:48 AM
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Those men still do what they do though and people who agree seek them out and validate them. It’s the same with social media simp shaming. Men and women who agree with them validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:45 AM
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Men already do this. On social media if there are videos/posts from men that even just like women as people, not even simps and “the boys🥶💸🥶” get ahold of it they flame that man to high heaven. The men still keep doing it though because they’re getting money/attention from their female fans for doing so. On a micro level like between friends it may be more effective depending on the dynamics of the friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:43 AM
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Someone said this already but you can cast a wide net by doing this with people that are your type. It’s like if you’re fishing and you for sure want salt water fish. You may not end up liking all those salt water fish but you know you at least want some kind of salt water fish. Why would you fish in the river and the sea knowing rivers have freshwater fish when you could just stick to fishing in the sea?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:02 AM
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/10/31/afghan-girls-education-i-dont-think-i-have-future Men do better educationally here because their country has different gender dynamics. What is your proof that it is objective and not subjective? Do you have evidence that the things you’ve said are the same in every single nation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:00 AM
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Do you still have the link to that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:58 AM
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You’d save more time in the long run by only swiping on women that are your type. Looking at the Puc before swiping takes less time than having to go through matches again and then unmatching them. Not matching them in the first place saves that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:57 AM
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Ok again, you can get all this from matching with people that are your type. It sounds like he’s talking about looks so is it common for men to not even look at the photo? You just swipe not even knowing if it’s a woman you’re swiping on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:55 PM
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You can play the numbers game and only swipe on people that are your type. They’re not mutually exclusive. So this doesn’t make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:52 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:51 PM
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Which ones? Everything I’ve seen is just referring to him by the moniker and some put his age too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:51 PM
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None of these things are inherently linked to gender and you can tell this by looking at nations with different dynamics. Things that are objective are mens physical strength advantage, musculature advantage, benefits for men and women based on biological differences. Everything you listed are subjective and within an individual’s control.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:50 PM
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But he’s not even doing that. So it seems pretty pointless to just match with people you have no intention of doing anything with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:48 PM
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Thanks again
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:29 PM
1

Thanks and What language is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:26 PM
3

What does compa mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:24 PM
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All those are subjective, you can live longer as a man by getting into the same work fields as women or white collar men, men on average make more money so I don’t understand that point? The number of friends you have is up to you, same with how much education you have. These are not objective things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:23 PM
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Why would you match with them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:21 PM
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It doesn’t at all. There’s multiple west elm stores across the north east plus he’s lied so how do we even know that he was telling the truth about his name and place of employment. We don’t know where he lives, what his last name is any of that. All we know is that he’s a fuckboy and we got screenshots from women leaving him bad reviews. That’s not doxxing. He chose to tell random people that information. They owe him no secrecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:10 PM
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I just pulled the first couple links that came from google when I looked up “man sues date for ghosting” And the women wanted to vent. It’s fair play at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:08 PM
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And power dynamics. One is a child, one is and adult and said child’s teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:07 PM
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No, my opinion is based on your synopsis of it and your anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:22 PM
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But they can’t keep them so it seem they’re high smv low rmv
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:20 PM
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That kind of age gap is creepy. I understand sometimes teenagers have crushes on adults but as an adult you should know better and nip that in the bud right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:17 PM
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Just because it doesn't feel predatory it doesn't mean it isn't Exactly this is how a lot of grooming starts too. It begins with innocuous seemingly innocent little things. Then it escalates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:16 PM
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Yeah as long as it didn’t get to a level where they need a full time caretaker. Like those people in my 600lb life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:15 PM
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Most can achieve both. They just prefer to only put effort into the former because obtaining it feels more validating to them. Which is fine that’s your business but again, if that’s how you’re operating it doesn’t make sense to act surprised when she leaves after the fun gets stale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:14 PM
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https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/texas-man-sued-woman-texting-first-date-explains-lawsuit/amp/ https://blacksportsonline.com/2018/11/man-threatened-to-sue-woman-who-ghosted-him-on-a-date-to-see-guardians-of-galaxy-2-what-she-had-to-do-for-him-to-stop-lawsuit-video/ https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/invoice-dinner-date-man-indianapolis-indiana-amanda-burnett-a8309626.html?amp Like you want women to accept playboys, potential for violence after rejection and now this but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:00 PM
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No one doxxed him though. They’re just sharing screenshots of text dating app conversations. To prove that they know him and what they’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:59 PM
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Those women are not mentally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:57 PM
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Also the fact that if he’s a known player he can not maintain or attract healthy minded women for quality relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:45 PM
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No projection. I’m describing what happens to playboys right now. Most are perpetual bachelors. For women relationships don’t have a significant impact on whether or not they die alone. Whether or not they have kids is the determining factor because even when they get married they tend to outlive their husbands. For men though, whether or not you get a woman and if the relationship lasts determines who you will have at the end of your life as she will be there or at the very least provide you wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:39 AM
1

The way I see it it’s matching energies. If men are already doing it to women. Women should do it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:27 AM
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Is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:20 AM
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https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/texas-man-sued-woman-texting-first-date-explains-lawsuit/amp/ https://blacksportsonline.com/2018/11/man-threatened-to-sue-woman-who-ghosted-him-on-a-date-to-see-guardians-of-galaxy-2-what-she-had-to-do-for-him-to-stop-lawsuit-video/ https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/invoice-dinner-date-man-indianapolis-indiana-amanda-burnett-a8309626.html?amp Like you want women to accept playboys, potential for violence after rejection and now this but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:09 AM
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Ok if you only want the former then it doesn’t make any sense to be surprised if she leaves when things get boring and routine. It was just about sex and excitement from both ends. When that goes stale she will move on to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:06 AM
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No one is doxxing him. The women are simply using text message conversations they had with him to bolster their complaints. We know he lives in New York, but that’s a given considering all the women complaining about him live or work in New York too. Men already do the same thing to women. I’m glad women are now doing it back. It was already scorched earth one way. Now women are doing it too and it’s great. Throw out crap, get it back. If you don’t want that don’t participate in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:04 AM
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Women are also starting to realize that settling down with players doesn’t work. He will only ever want sex. Most playboys are like that. They’re perpetual bachelors. At best they get scared when they get old and realize no one will be there to take care of them but they never stop being players. He’s done in terms of serious romance. He’s for dick only. So he’ll have great success there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:02 AM
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It’s great how easy it is for them to organize. It’s personally benefited me, like when I was considering going to a business but then I see them getting blasted and do research and find out it would’ve been money wasted. Etc. It’s helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:00 AM
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Men already do that, on top of killing women who reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:59 AM
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Ghosting hurt her. Why is it a problem that she’s complaining about the date and other women who experienced the same chimed in? If his behavior isn’t a problem neither is hers. He doesn’t owe her more dates and she doesn’t owe him kind words or discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:01 AM
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Why not? They’re with someone who is a child legally in most US states and if they’re willing to go that young would they go even younger if they felt the minor was “mature” for their age? Please don’t take this the wrong way because I’m not saying this is you but this reminds me of my hometown where men(adult men 21+) were sexually engaging with girls as young as 12 and having “relationships” with them only for people to excuse it because the girls are “fast” and “mature”. And nasty grown women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:59 AM
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Yes. 1) they still have the ability to do all of that it’s just harder because of economic reasons not so much social ones. 2) you can inspire feelings of adoration from more than just your ability to provide. If you go for women who you connect with emotionally, mentally and spiritually you’ll have a chance at building a genuine romantic connection on top of the sexual one that if properly nurtured will last a while if not until your deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:54 AM
-1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:53 AM
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He won’t be able to, because they’ll know that he never wants to settle down. However I do agree that he’ll be able to date women who only want sex from him. Given his M.O though I think he may end up with a different problem because it wasn’t his sexual performance that got his haters in a tizzy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:52 AM
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Yes. Hurt people hurt people. If you’re not kind to someone, why are you surprised if they match your energy lol. We’re already there. People are just at the point where they are getting vindicated when they experience toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:51 AM
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And I hope women keep posting bad reviews and calling his job or future jobs. It’s fair play. Just like those guys who send women invoices after dates that don’t lead to sex. It’s just people being free and getting even.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:04 AM
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Why not? It’s a part of the game. High risk high reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:41 AM
1

It’s not even 10 in social media time. If he’s relevant to this degree for more than 2 months then he may have some problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:41 AM
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Assholes know the risks of being assholes. So many people have gotten blasted on social media for simply being jerks. He’s a young man with internet access so I’m sure he knew that, yet still chose to be a fuckboy anyway. This will all blow over for him when someone else pisses off enough people to go viral. Which never takes too long on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:37 AM
0

When it’s 16 there’s often stipulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:34 AM
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No. From both sides it’s people doing what they want to do. Each side knew the risks of their actions and are choosing how they want to respond. It’s not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:31 AM
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Yeah if you want go ahead and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:30 AM
1

They get a high from destroying men who wrong them just like men get the same from doing it to women who wrong them. If you go around mistreating people, some of those people will retaliate. This goes for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:30 AM
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His life will be fine. At worst he won’t be able to use the same tactics to get sex. But women who only want sex will still go for him anyway. The worst that will happen to him is being a joke until the next big social media story and then women who want relationships not talking to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:29 AM
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So what? He chose to conduct himself in that manner knowing the potential consequences. If you go around acting shady there’s always a risk of it coming back to bite you in the butt. So do what you want to do but understand that other people operate on the same principle and may retaliate in ways you don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:28 AM
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The online vendor can’t verify if you’re telling the truth or not about being drunk either though. While with a casino they can visibly see that you’re inebriated and if they have a bar on site they can check with the bartender to see how much you drank to verify your intoxication.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:22 AM
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It should be a law but it should be equally applied men who are taken advantage of while drunk. You’re in an inebriated state so your mind and decision making capabilities aren’t as reliable as when you’re sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:20 AM
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Why not? They could’ve went for a man or woman that was 18+.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:17 AM
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With people their same age or close to it. It gets dicey when you’re talking people 30+ interested in pursuing teens. Some it’s ok with parental consent some it’s not because they cap it at 5 years older so the older the 16 year old can go is 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:16 AM
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Yes. Jokes about the gym, lifting, certain fitness disciplines vs others etc. Stuff like this. https://images.app.goo.gl/rpRHWGjn5HxtTWXp9 https://images.app.goo.gl/gXtGg2pbSLTqQfhg9 I dated one. Him and his friends would roast and joke with each other about gym related stuff too. Like having dick measuring contests about their P.Rs and ragging on one guy in the group who wasn’t as fit. It wasn’t malicious though because they’d help and encourage each other but the gym/fitness culture were also …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:13 AM
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They do compare. You need both to be a full package.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:09 AM
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They refuse to date them because of the fathers toxic dynamic with his child’s mother. Not because of the child. Men who are single mothers because their wife died don’t get treated the same as dudes who have living baby mamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:21 PM
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There are also religious stories of living stepmothers that predate fairy tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:21 PM
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If he dms the ones who are sincere out lusting after him it will, however it’s a thin line because being exposed for being a playboy is a way to lose your audience and attention if your audience is primarily composed of certain type of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:19 PM
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Taking care of yourself is more than going to the gym. You can have a great body but do your outfits flatter your figure? Are your clothes aesthetically pleasing or are you just always in baggy sweatpants and tee or hoodies? Is your hair cut flattering to your face? Hygiene on par? Do you have a nice flattering cologne etc. Things like that are also what women consider “taking care of yourself”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:16 PM
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It’s probably because their sense of humor often doesn’t translate well to non gym goers. People tend to make jokes about things they’re passionate about and do often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:14 PM
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So if you know that about yourself why not stay single or date polyamorous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:04 PM
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It doesn’t unless she never actually liked you. If she just felt lust and nothing more comfort and familiarity will kill it because you’re no longer sexy, fun and exciting. A big problem many men seem to be facing is that they focus so much on inspiring lust from women. That’s what they put the most energy into to the point that is seems like lust is the only feeling they value from women. You’ll even sometimes hear them say women are incapable of loving men or that if they do it’s fleeting. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:00 PM
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Exactly which is why I don’t get why dudes are so mad about this. People on social media get exposed all the time for lying. Sometimes it goes viral and people join in shaming them for lying. Oh well, that’s a risk you take when you’re lying to multiple people. If you don’t want to incur that risk, don’t lie. If you want to lie, accept the risks that come with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:10 AM
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Yep. But now men are mad that women are talking about him and claiming it’s doxxing and creepy harassment. It’s hilarious. If you lie to dozens of people, you run the risk of at least one finding out and saying something about it. So it makes no sense to be all up in arms about someone being called out for lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:05 AM
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His reputation isn’t destroyed though. They’re not making up lies about him. He said the things he said, did the things he did and looks the way he looks. No one forced him to be that way. He is that way, it’s just that a bunch of people are finding out who he is at once. Reputation destruction is when you make up lies about someone to assassinate their character and have them ostracized. The truth is being told about him, not lies and his reputation will be fine. He just won’t be able to lie to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:04 AM
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Plenty do change their way of interacting with men. For me I started fact checking what they say and doing background checks. Some women becomes cold and detached. A lot of women can’t emotionally handle being that way though. I was watching a video earlier where one woman was saying it makes her depressed to be aloof, emotionally unavailable and to distrust men until they prove themselves. She said she misses being wholeheartedly affectionate when with someone because that’s her character but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:00 AM
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They’re not exchanging sex for commitment they’re having sex under the false pretense that the emotional connection was mutual. That’s just a scam he’s running though and they’re telling others about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:06 AM
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No one said you had to live scared. It’s just matching energies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:05 AM
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They put in right in their terms of service that they’re taking your data and often have prompts for you to accept that risk. So if you know that and still choose to use the services that’s on you. Your privacy wasn’t “violated” you willing waived your right to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:04 AM
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Lmao then we end up with more west elm Caleb’s. Understandably so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:14 AM
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The women also have a right to air their grievances and warn other women. They’re not violating his privacy. They’re just telling their stories and sharing screenshots of their personal conversations. He revealed his own identity and personal information when he went on the apps. Putting your face and name on there voids your privacy for the duration of your time there. They shouldn’t be punished as nothing bad is even happening to him. His lies are now exposed and certain types women aren’t goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:11 AM
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No one is harassing or doxxing him. They’re making videos with the screenshots of their conversations and revealing the lies he said. What they’re doing is perfectly legal. It’s the same as leaving a bad business review for a bad restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:35 AM
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They’re exposing the fact that what he will lie to you about wanting commitment and being into you. So if you come across him and he claims he’s interested in you, don’t fall for it. It’s just a friendly warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:21 PM
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How is she proving OPs point? The women are not demanding commitment from him. They’re simply telling other women that he’s not offering it but he will lie about it. So be careful. Posting it on social media is more efficient than telling women one by one. Would you be this mortified if instead of lying for sex, he lied to get donations for a fake illness? Or he lied about a product he was giving to men? Etc. If you go around telling lies, you have to understand that there is a possibility that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:52 PM
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So then it’s fair for the woman to expose him to other women lol. Lie if you want but you can’t be mad that someone(or multiple people) call you out for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:50 PM
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Not unless a US dress size 2 is considered plus size now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:27 PM
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Definitely not true. White men have better stereotypes than black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:39 PM
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So it’s ok for men to be hypocritical because they get rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:41 AM
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Nope. She’ll get a few. A white male will get several.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:40 AM
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False they get a couple a day. More if they’re average looking facially/height wise but not fat. I have white male friends who I have seen the old profiles of. That’s not any worse than black women. Stereotypes for white people are better than those for black people. So that helps white males while it works to the detriment of black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:40 AM
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It doesn’t make any sense but they still do it if the woman is attractive. The only men that are truly averse to doing that are the ones who are young and don’t have any kids. If they’re older and divorced with kids themselves they’re open to dating women with kids because they’re realistic and know more 18-25 year old child free women aren’t going to want to play step mom that young unless he seriously financially compensates her. So they date single moms. The only true barrier to those women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:38 AM
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The men here are fairly homogenized when it comes to certain views. You notice certain trends. There’s way more saying and agreeing that women hit the wall, fat women are unattractive etc. Than those disagreeing. The only thing they seriously disagree about on those topics is when exactly women hit the wall. Some think it’s after 25, some 30 others 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:35 AM
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I’m not surprised. I had uncles that were the same way. They’d call women fat and say how could they let themselves go like that while looking 9months pregnant themselves. It was mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:33 AM
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No they don’t. You’re just assuming they do because of male solipsism. Being white trumps womanhood so white men get more likes and attention than black women because their race has more positive stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:32 AM
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Yeah everyone is. People are increasingly jaded about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:31 AM
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Isn’t 4’11 when you’re legally considered a little person? And anyway men make fun of short women for wanting tall men and fat women for wanting fit men and doubly so if the woman is both. Yet they are the same way themselves about weight and they expect women to just pretend like they’re not or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:30 AM
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In a soft harem none of the women are his girlfriend or wife. With cheating he’s married to or exclusively dating one woman so he’s breaking a commitment he made.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:50 PM
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It depends on if you mean high value in terms of physical attractiveness or income. If it’s income the woman can pick up a high value man if she’s fit and physically attractive despite having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:49 PM
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Yeah considering how many men say they don’t want fat girls and just by sheer probability it’s impossible that they’re all in shape themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:44 PM
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She’s said before that she can’t attract the quality of women she’d prefer and is attracted to so dating is hard for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:41 PM
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White males don’t have a harder time on online dating than black females.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:38 PM
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Idk if you’re using “you” for me specifically or “you” in the general sense but where my life was a year ago when I made the username is very different than where it is now. I’ve never had issues with anxiety either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:35 PM
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It’s not wrong at all. Both genders seek validation when they’re insecure. If a man asks his partner how something looks on him, she won’t branch swing. She’ll answer either honestly or with a white lie to boost him depending on their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:52 PM
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It doesn’t at all. You chose to project your emotions and hypersensitivity onto a straightforward statement. If you don’t want to be caught out next time, try harder. You were offended by this and assumed I meant to try harder with me and went off based on that. It’s why you’ve conducted yourself in the manner you have currently as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:26 PM
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It doesn’t at all. You chose to project your emotions and hypersensitivity onto a straightforward statement. If you don’t want to be caught out next time, try harder. You were offended by this and assumed I meant to try harder with me and went off based on that. It’s why you’ve conducted yourself in the manner you have currently as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:56 PM
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My suggestion is purely based on logic. If you’re trolling and had to create a second account to do it, logically that implies you don’t intend to get caught. So if you don’t want to get caught. Refine your technique. As I said before the quality of the suggestion matters more than the origin. Also your source doesn’t back up anything you said. Emotional expression is not the same as presence of emotion. It also doesn’t make a distinction between feminine and masculine women or feminine and masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:40 PM
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They don’t bring hard times. If the “simps” and “thots” are adults consenting to that dynamic then it’s really a non issue so agree to disagree I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:36 PM
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Laughing at isn’t the same as hating on which is what was being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:19 PM
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The same reason you take suggestions from unmasculine men. A good suggestion is a good suggestion regardless of the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:18 PM
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You do have a chance. There’s straight OF creators that cater to gay audiences. Ultimately it’s about whether or not you’re ok with gay men jacking it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:08 PM
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Point 2 doesn’t make much sense. People who view the idea of paying for porn just laugh at OF creators and don’t think much of them beyond that. They don’t invest energy into following them to hate and constantly complain/chastise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:07 PM
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Only if you’re trying to buy custom or ethically produced porn. If you want to look at porn for free you can. So what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:05 PM
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Why? It’s not your money being spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:04 PM
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So that your trolling attempts aren’t so easily uncovered. So next time try to project less and take the advice you dish out to others. You desperately need it. More so than anyone you tell it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:02 PM
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In a world where Twitter blur or takes down your images. 1,700 likes may be low compared to her usual numbers. Which indicates it’s not doing as well as other posts. I think you’re very hung up on the fact that’s she a woman/OF creator. If you take that out and just look at things logically her complaint makes sense. If a business translates roughly 5% of their likes into new followers and customers and they can normally do 5,000 likes on a post. Only getting 1,700 would help concerning because …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:00 PM
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You’re welcome. Try harder next time chocolate guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:54 PM
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You’ve completely misrepresented her complaint. So that in itself is telling of whether or not you’re in the wrong. If you were in the right you could’ve repeated her complaint verbatim. Anyway, it’s not wrong of her to complain about her selfies being censored. It’s a very first world complaint but it’s valid. The internet and social media fame is a dog eat dog world. If you don’t consistently post you lose relevance, with that comes the loss of followers and then the loss of revenue if you mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:44 PM
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The same reason men don’t like women with insecurities. It’s not the insecurities themselves that are the problem it’s the handling of them. A girl being insecure about her level of attractiveness and her boyfriend having a wandering eye is somewhat easy to deal with until she starts expressing that by constantly accusing him of cheating, checking through his phone, getting mad if he’s around other women etc. If the man can’t manage his insecurities in a healthy manner that’s a turn off. It soun…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:35 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:28 PM
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Yes my article gave multiple different uses for the word cadence. One of which was writing. Once again showing your ignorance and lack of reading comprehension skills. If you understood the article as well as you’re trying to purport, you’d understand that rhythm is the key. Whether the rhythm is expressed through writing, music, speech, time or sound. If a specific rhythmic pattern is present it can be referred to as a cadence. “All three were speaking of rhythm, but in different ways.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:17 PM
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And words also have multiple definitions Miss Gari. I provided one for you. Here’s the source Where’s yours? Now. What was it you said? Shame Insults Guilt & the Need to be right. KS pegged you quite hard sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:14 PM
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If you respond I’m going to reply. Not that hard to figure out. Especially if you’re spewing lies, I’ll correct it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:50 PM
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Miss Gari, is this your way of telling me you don’t know what cadence in writing is? In writing, “cadence” is the timing or flow of sentences. As Writing Explained says, “Cadence is created when reading the balanced words and phrases in free verse and prose. Writers choose their words carefully, and by choosing certain words, certain rhythms are created through one’s prose.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:50 PM
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So I now realize this is your troll account with your main being the chocolate guy or whatever. Next time switch up your cadence and speech style. Also it’s called reciprocity. Learn the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:31 PM
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They’re 100% relevant when you want to bring up poverty as a talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:30 PM
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I didn’t bring up starving orphans. I brought up the global poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:31 PM
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You’re missing the point. I asked a very straightforward question. You misinterpreted it, so I explained and it seems you’re still not understanding what I’m asking because you’re answering and telling me all these other throngs except a direct answer to the question. So atp I’m guessing you just don’t have one but didn’t want to say that for whatever reason. Maybe English isn’t your first language. Probably why you don’t understand simple questions or how to correctly contextualize analogies. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:30 PM
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It’s not at all. There’s people from all over the globe that visit this sub because they have similar problems the way they’re expressed just vary slightly by culture. You’re simply upset because when your analogy is looked at holistically it falls flat. The consequences of having no money are much more severe than those of having no sex. Which is why they’re prioritized and viewed differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:37 PM
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Clearly you don’t understand what I’m asking. If someone wants Whole Foods, regardless of what they have the most access to they will talk the most about Whole Foods in a theoretical sense. They’re not going to talk about how much they want McDonald’s, how envious they are of people that eat more McDonald’s etc then them if what they want more access to is Whole Foods. The way you’ve interpreted the question is “what do men have the most access to” that’s not what I asked. Quite funny that you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:35 PM
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Your world view is heavily limited to American poor. That’s why you think the way you do. Globally many poor people don’t have a roof over their head or if they do it’s shoddy and they don’t have adequate access to healthy food and clean water. It’s a struggle to survive not just to enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:33 PM
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I'll answer that question, with an analogous question, which is better for the body Whole Foods or McDonalds? This doesn’t answer the question at all. If you don’t have an answer it’s fine to just say that. The same can be said for sex quality always beats out quantity u/Lonely_23_1997 You never answered the question. You just keep repeating that it’s quality over quantity without answering why the discussion is so heavily focused on quantity of what you said was true then quality would dominate…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:41 PM
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It’s not disingenuous at all, most poor people globally are living in squalor. They are living in life or death situations whether it’s because their area is so economically deprived that it breeds dangerous conditions due to all the violent crime, or because their sources of food are extremely insecure and they never know when they will eat again or have clean water to drink. Sex is no big deal. It’s not a vital part of the human experience. It’s a luxury. Something that makes people unhappy if…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:36 PM
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It can potentially be true for sex as well but it’s more dicey because you can’t force yourself to be attracted to people you’re not and lack of money has much more visibly impactful effects. You can see the wealthy living lavishly and the poor starving and living in squalor. You can see the dire effects of people living in unsafe or unhygienic housing, how they have to choose which medical procedures to get or how to ration their medicine when they can’t afford proper medical care etc. With sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:37 PM
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I have two questions. 1)If it’s really about the quality then why is quantity the focus of discussion? 2) If it’s truly about the quality do you think that’s a problem and if so why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:34 PM
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And there’s women that are ashamed at the size/shape of their boobs and other body parts. Some people are just insecure with how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:19 AM
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On a group level they view all non-blacks as have equal potential to be racist to black people. They just think whites in America have the most power to act on it, but that non-black poc will happily throw black people under the bus. The plight of blacks in Latin America and Chinas treatment of Africa and Africas in China has changed the narrative. On an individual level though, they just vet the men accordingly and as I keep saying they fear racism from the man’s family more than racism from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:09 AM
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They’re actually not known to be the most racist anymore. Keeping up with discourse about racism from black people under 30, anti-blackness within every group is being called to task and “POC solidarity” is being questioned. Black women who are into interracial dating don’t fear racism from white men more than they fear it from any other non-black groups. You’ll literally hear them say that if you bring it up. “Any non-black man can be racist and black man can be colorist so what?” Is about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:30 PM
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Coming to this conclusion shows your lack of critical thinking skills. If someone online is flaunting their sexuality, then you can respectfully engage and sexualize them within the parameter they have set. Where many men get caught up is they don’t know when to turn this on and off. Maybe this example will help. When you want to handwash some dishes you turn the water on to wash and rinse the dishes. When you’re done washing the dishes you turn the water off. You don’t leave it running. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:39 PM
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Men are men. Whether you date in your race or not you can face issues with misogyny, colorism, racism, domestic violence etc. There’s bad apples in every bunch it’s about sorting through to find the right one. A lot of black women don’t consider themselves to be racially oppressed, the same logic used to say that labels all men as oppressors of women anyway though. So the claim is that the white countries are patriarchal and white men are at the top w/non-white men at varying degrees below them …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:06 PM
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They still want the hottest ones though. Those are the ones they put in the effort to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:59 PM
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I apologize in advance because I just realized that comment is hella long.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:19 PM
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I amended my statement and added the family thing for white men too. To explain further, they’re not expecting racism from the non-black men themselves who they date or at the very least nothing too crazy. They’re expecting it to come from the man’s parents, aunts and uncles etc. Some of them expect it more from Latino, East Asian and south Asians mens families more because of the experiences they’ve heard from other older black women. The ones with white husbands who had racist families the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:19 PM
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Black women who are into white men don’t collectively see them as racist. It’s the ones who aren’t into white men that do and that’s one of the major reasons they would never go for white men. Black women who are into black men view them as kings, very sexy, oppressed but resilient and in need of help sometimes, beautifully melanated, passionate, great dancers, assertive, very masculine, great bodies, charming, poor, can be aggressive, very well endowed, bold and confident, very direct communica…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:28 PM
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Thank you! I’m glad someone got it, I just find it hilarious how he dodged every point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:48 AM
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It doesn’t answer the q as the numbers still don’t add up. When you look at the numbers for single mothers of other races. There’s still a % disparity. We all know the truth. Race plays a role as well. Some people are not open to dating certain races no matter how in shape or child free they are. Them being the “wrong” race will always be an issue. Men seem to understand this when it comes to women but pretend members of their sex don’t do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:44 AM
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Yes because they do. If a man and a woman both sleep with 100 new people, he will experience at least 1 orgasm with more people than the woman will. So he has a higher orgasm rate. What you’re arguing is recurrence. You’re making the claim that when men and women both sleep with sexually satisfying partners women have a higher orgasm recurrence. So I stand by my statement. Plenty of women do know what they want though and they can get off while masturbating but not when having sex with a new par…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:22 AM
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Yes in 2020 there were 4.25 million black single mother households, there are about 25 million black women in the US. There are more single black mothers than other races, but there’s plenty of black women who are not single mothers. The marriage numbers is not off topic. That’s how women are legally classified as single mothers. If you have a child outside of marriage you’re added to the single mother statistics for your race. It’s quite literally the main topic of our discussion lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:30 AM
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They definitely are as the black marriage rate is abysmally low and black men seem to be ok dating women of other races with traits they don’t accept in black women. Most black women under 30 don’t have kids. People always conflate the out of wedlock birth statistics with the number of black women who actually have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:06 AM
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Corny, quick to anger, can’t dance and weird about complimenting black women don’t exactly scream perfection. A more accurate summary is this: wealthy, emotionally volatile but sexually generous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:03 AM
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The same can be said for women. If a man is hot and confident that will obliterate and stereotypes a woman may have had about his particular race. When it comes to racial preferences whether it’s a man or a woman the end result is the same. To overcome it you have to be sufficiently attractive to compensate for the “deficit” your race poses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:01 AM
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Not barely. It’s there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:00 AM
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So once again, men have an easier time finding partners that they can get an orgasm from. They don’t have to wade through nearly as many duds to get one. Plus there’s a lot less men that go through life never having orgasmed from sex vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:59 AM
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Because they’re not as they purport themselves to be or they’re aiming for above average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:14 AM
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So a 10% difference between black and Hispanic women in terms of obesity but a 20% + difference in desirability. Explain the extra 10% + disparity because the numbers don’t answer that. If they did the disparity would be 10% like the obesity rate, not. 20%+ like it is irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:35 AM
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So what I said is still true then. . . Men have a much easier time finding someone they can get at least one orgasm from than women. It’s why men orgasm during a higher % of their sexual encounters than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:33 AM
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You don’t have to lie to pump and dump in a sexual situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:32 AM
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I think we may just disagree on the frequency then. I thought it was rare until I became more mellow/carefree and just let people talk. It’s crazy the things people will tell you or let slip if they think you’ll listen judgement free. I’m not just talking about fetishes or biases either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:31 AM
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Because pump and dumps occur in relationships where it’s mostly or all about sex. If sex wasn’t the main focus that’s just a regular dump. That’s why it matters. So I’d like to pose my question again: was there more than just sex involved or was the “relationship” heavily or solely sex focused?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:48 PM
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There is not speculation. This whole time I’ve simply been saying that fetishization is a real thing and I based that view on people I’ve met who have exposed themselves. My only point of contention was the fact that you downplay/deny it’s existence. If I meet a black woman(irl) who likes white guys I can find out in a few minutes whether it’s a fetish or not by simply asking “why” in a non-judgmental manner/soft tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:46 PM
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Yeah. It depends on the reason why. Is it purely because you like the way they look. Or it is because you have stereotypical associations based on the looks. If it’s the former, then it’s not a fetish. If it’s the latter, that’s a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:40 PM
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Depends. Was there more than just sex involved or was the “relationship” heavily sex centered?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:35 PM
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All those things can be and are fetishes. Depends on the person. You realize two things can be true at once right? A man can stereotype black women to be freaks in bed and then consequently his physical attraction to them increases because his mind makes this subconscious association when he looks at a black woman. Similar thing can happen when he looks at an Asian woman and makes a subconscious association with docility that increases his physical attraction. The reverse is also true. Someone c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:34 PM
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And dumping since the person has been dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:26 PM
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Again, this won’t work as well as you think. It’s not mandatory in the US but there has been a noticeable uptick in interracial couples on US tv. There’s still complaints about and resistance towards it. And people making ridiculous claims like “white couples on tv are going extinct” or that it’s an “attack on black love” etc. It’s why I said, exposure to other races will work better. I’ll expand on that by saying it should be done on neutral grounds. No campaigning about acceptance, or bombardi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:25 PM
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You’d be surprised just how many people do not. Even in liberal areas there are a lot of people that still stereotype. Not all are full on uncle ruckus and it usually presents itself in more innocuous ways like associating whiteness with wealth, associating black people with athletic and dance prowess etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:18 PM
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The data is off because it still shows a significant portion of Hispanic women being overweight obese. They are not on “the lighter side” of obesity. Perhaps you meant to say lower prevalence. Either way, the numbers don’t explain the gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:15 PM
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No pumping and dumping is when a man runs through coochie like the Olympics because he’s promiscuous or addicted to sex. He doesn’t have to lie about anything. Women are accused of being pumped and dumped all the time despite the man never lying to them. Just the fact that he wanted sex from her and nothing more is enough to qualify it as her being pumped and dumped. So it cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:11 PM
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They’re still off so your point doesn’t hold up. If obesity was the reason the numbers would neatly align with obesity and rejection. Yet it doesn’t match up. So what’s the reason for the disparity?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:09 PM
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Yes. Unless you’re the type that attaches romantic feelings to sex. Then it’s about the connection and emotional intimacy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:08 PM
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It depends on how often the white guy encounters that. It will hurt him if all the black women he comes across treat him like that. Probably enough to put him off dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:06 PM
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Pumping and dumping has nothing to do with relationships. You don’t have to promise anything, simply run through coochie like water for the sake of new sexual experiences and you achieve the same result. You don’t describe them that way. You simply treat them that way by only investing in the aspect of the relationship that serve your goals. Sexual satisfaction and entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:02 PM
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My passage points out that social campaigning and shaming people into being “re-educated” is not the way to go. It simply results in them being more covert. The issues for black people would not have been way worse if integration wasn’t handled the way it was. It’s why employment rates were higher. Black people had their own businesses and they hired black people. This has diminished and black people who are rejected from non black companies don’t have black businesses as an option to the same d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:01 PM
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Because men having a higher orgasm rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:57 PM
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I linked the wrong one at first so I deleted that comment. Here’s the right one. https://images.app.goo.gl/T8EsqH4Znz7uF1Dw9
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:56 PM
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I didn’t say every one. You asked me to explain what the caricature of a white guy is. So I did. Black women who stereotype white men and use that as a reason to date them do so for the aforementioned reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:54 PM
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And since we’ve done that black unemployment has gone up, having a “black sounding” name results in lower likelihood of getting called in for an interview and black people are still underrepresented in higher level positions in companies owned by non-blacks and black Americans are well on their way to becoming an economic underclass. When non-blacks were hiring and servicing their own it consequently resulted in higher rates of black entrepreneurship and innovation because black people had to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:53 PM
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https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity Going by these stats, dating app stats should reflect a 10-15% gap in desirability between black women and non black women, yet the gap in desirability reflected in dating app data is 25-30%+. So once again, doesn’t add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:48 PM
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Lol, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:46 PM
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The ones who do that are the ones with racial preferences though. Based on what I’ve heard other black women say the caricature of a white guy is this: Wealthy, good credit, conservative, corny, can’t dance, loves natural hair, happy to be included, weird about complimenting/hitting on black women or other non-white women, easy to please, quick to anger, loves performing cunnilingus etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:45 PM
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Most women in America are overweight. When you look at the stats of for overweight/obese in other races of women then the data on mens racial preferences the numbers don’t add up. If it was simply about weight the dating gap between black women and non-black women would be much smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:42 PM
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They’re there for a reason. Most peoples racial preferences are for in group. They’re just going with what’s most familiar. If you want to reduce them you have to encourage interracial socializing and understanding. Approaching it like anti-smoking campaigns won’t work. You’ll just have people virtue signaling but at the end of the day they’ll still prefer the race(s) they’re exposed to the most. In America that’s their own race and for poc white people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:41 PM
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It literally says in your title that they by and large don’t not that mens are weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:38 PM
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100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:38 PM
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Dude. I told you we can agree to disagree long ago. I maintain my view and I’m not changing it. You can save your f-boy spiel for the next girl you’re planning on pumping and dumping. If you reduce your investment in a relationship to one aspect. Then that’s all that relationship is about. Sorry other people acknowledging that upsets you. If you don’t want people to thing you use your employees as tool for monetary gain. Be an employer that cares and invests in your employees beyond what’s profi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:37 PM
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But black women still faced disadvantages, so how do you come to the conclusion that men don’t have racial preferences? If that was the case race wouldn’t have any impact on a woman’s dating opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:34 PM
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It depends on what you’re looking for. If it’s just sex. Then fetishization won’t impede that. If you’re looking for a healthy romantic relationship though, it definitely will as they will stereotype you and not see you for who you are, but how well you fit into the racial caricature they have in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:33 PM
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I would. What they said is correct. Men do have racial preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:31 PM
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Women exhibiting stronger racial preferences than males does not mean men don’t exhibit them. It means men have them to a lesser degree, but they’re still there. Dating app data supports this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:31 PM
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So they get their looks match. What’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:24 PM
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You do. If you’re only investing in the parts necessary for sexual satisfaction then that is what you’ve reduced your relationship down to. Since that’s the case, makes no sense to take issue with someone calling it what it is. If you want to view it in a more flowery poetic lens then that’s your business but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:24 PM
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It can. I guess you’ve heard of IVF.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:23 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:22 PM
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Never. Women aren’t going to entertain men who don’t make them happy so it feeds into a cycle. Plus now the sexes aren’t as interdependent, so the only real consequences of staying single when you don’t get what you want are social ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:45 PM
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Yeah that’s pretty accurate. It’s not hard to get dates with women if you’re a least mildly functional and you take care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:34 PM
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It doesn’t have to be a need for abortion to happen. People engage in all kinds of things every day that aren’t needs. Would you deny them help if something went awry as a result? You’re using the internet, that’s not a need. So if someone hacks you or steals your information because of your internet use, should you be denied the chance at legal retribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:31 PM
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Driving isn’t a need so you shouldn’t be allowed to seek medical care if you get into a car accident. Electricity isn’t a need, so you shouldn’t be allowed to seek emergency services if your home burns down because of an electrical fire. Eating out isn’t a need so you shouldn’t be allowed to sue if you get food poisoning from a restaurant. Hope this helps you see why using the argument. “Sex isn’t a need” as a reason to ban abortion doesn’t make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:29 PM
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Your pet analogy is off. Pet owners care for their pets and invest in them holistically. Most promiscuous people only invest in their hookup partners enough to keep sex consistent. They’re not heavily involved in their lives beyond that like pet owners are with their pets. Anyway we clearly have vastly different views on sex and relationships so agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:24 PM
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Maybe but they’re not hurting anyone. They and the men they sleep with are on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:16 PM
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I think they know, and they don’t care because they just like sex and they view men the same way men view them: disposable tools for sexual gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:54 PM
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They’re barely being paid anything in your scenario and they’re in worse conditions than they would be working at McDonald’s or an Amazon warehouse. Why would any woman choose this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:51 PM
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So is cashiering, stocking at a grocery store, prepping food at fast food restaurants, hostessing, cleaning, holding signs at construction sites etc any able bodied person can do these jobs and they’re all low wage. They’re all also easier than prostitution physically and mentally. Why would a woman choose prostitution over the others?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:50 PM
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Why would they want to do prostitution vs any other low wage job that’s much easier than sex work? The supply isn’t enough to meet the demand. It’s why prices remain high even post legalization and trafficking goes up. Capitalism doesn’t change the fact that the majority of women do not want to do sex work for low wages. So unless mega billionaires choose to operate at a loss and pay the sex workers much more than they charge customers, your dream of affordable sex workers won’t come to fruition…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:47 PM
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Probably because a woman can carry on a man’s genes but another man can’t do that. In terms of influence, motivation, assistance etc. A man and a woman can both be great partners to and a great influence on a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:50 PM
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Oh wow, thanks for the info. I knew drug issues and teen pregnancies were similar between inner cities and small rural towns but I wasn’t aware of the other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:44 PM
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I don’t get the appeal of that lifestyle. However if they’re being safe and the sex they’re having is legal and consensual it’s not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:32 PM
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Yep they move fast
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:31 PM
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By both ways do you mean like in the suburbs too or? Because I didn’t use any pronouns because I was trying to be gender neutral as I’ve seen this from both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:30 PM
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They’re very common in the hood. People who just got out of prison are especially like this if they don’t have family or their family cut them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:34 PM
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Men are hypergamous too. They’re just less successful at it and there’s less women to go for that would fulfill their hypergamous desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:33 PM
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The amount of men who forgive undesirable traits without something to compensate is probably the same as women. However for most people of both genders you need something desirable to make up for what you lack. The only difference is what each gender finds undesirable and what things they find desirable and will accept as sufficient compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:49 PM
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So then men are the same as women in this regard. They will only “forgive” and accept the undesirable trait if it’s undercut with a desirable one that outweighs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:33 AM
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So then men are the same as women. If you have an undesirable trait, you have to make up for it with a desirable one. Men are the same they’re not going to forgive hoe behavior unless they’re a hoe too and the women is in the top percentiles of beauty with a great personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:32 AM
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You’re playing both sides here. First you say men don’t care then you say they do and are right to because it’s backed by science. My only point is this. The shoe comes in multiple sizes and it’s not just for women only
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:05 PM
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Just as plenty of women are willing to wife up sexually fluid men. Generally though, men assume all kinds of negative things if the woman was promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:20 PM
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Men don’t. Theres always concern about whether or not she was a “hoe” and how that inspires disgust in men. Ppd men especially are like this. Men are definitely not more accepting of women. They’re brutal too when it comes to things they care about. They don’t care if their girlfriend/wife slept with women but they do care if she slept with “too many” men. As I said, it varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:15 PM
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So then men are hypergamous as well. If you gave the average man the choice between 1 dollar or 1 billion dollars he’s choosing the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:22 AM
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Then they’d have to teach FDS in schools too. In all seriousness though. Sex-ed class is simply there to teach you the biological, health and safety factors surrounding sex. The most relationship advice they give is how to identify domestic violence, rape and sexual assault. They don’t go much further than they so teaching TRP wouldn’t fit in the curriculum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:20 AM
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They definitely do. It seems to be a thing they mostly do in adolescence though. The after school program I volunteer at some of the boys were making sexually inappropriate comments to and around the younger kids. After getting to the bottom of it I realized they were “joking about” and mimicking things they saw in porn and that they were all watching it together in the back of the bus on the way to the program.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:17 AM
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It’s not always to look good. You can be accepting of a group of people but not want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:14 AM
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They’re not. Men and women each have things that they accept from the opposite gender, and things that they don’t. Men are less accepting of female promiscuity than women are of mens. So it varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:13 AM
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This was an insightful response, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:40 PM
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If most women think like me then I’d say so. I don’t know how common my take is to accurately say though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:21 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:18 AM
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I see what you were trying to do but wouldn’t a man leading on a woman for sex be more like a woman leading a male friend on for perks? The twitch and only fans girls are akin to tiktok and boy band guys who flirt with their fans for money. Sure they’re playing into a fantasy but all the involved parties know there’s absolutely no chance of anything happening. With a woman leading on her friend or a man leading on a hookup they are playing into the small chance that maybe something could happen …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:17 AM
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I do most of them aren’t straight. There’s no sexual teasing going on with the straight ones though because my bonds are strictly platonic/familial with all of them. We’re friends because we have common interests and enjoy each other’s company. I have a similar cultural background as many of them too so we relate on that level as well and it helps when giving or receiving advice about family dynamics and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:14 AM
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When it’s good yes. For the rest of what you said, I’ve never wanted a man to screw me just because he looks good. So for me personally I don’t think I experience arousal in the same way you’ve described for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:08 AM
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Yes. It seldom means anything good. If his number is that high because he’s just trying to get his notches up, then he’ll probably try that with me. Even if he is sincere, there’s a higher likelihood he’ll cheat, or we’ll be sexually incompatible because he’s emotionally disconnected from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:16 PM
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I do want that man. They’re just hard to come by. But to answer your question. Good service usually means repeat customers and good reviews to get more. If you pleasure a woman she’ll be more enthusiastic in kind and keep coming back. She’ll also brag to friends about it which means more potential partners for you if you’re not the sexually exclusive type. It’s a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:25 PM
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That’s the goal of dating. Doesn’t mean it will always be achieved. Men will fake liking a woman to get sex. It’s not always so obvious to find out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:07 PM
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Plenty of women do communicate. Men just won’t listen unless they’re madly in love with you. Otherwise they don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:27 PM
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That’s their business, however I also feel like it morally validates gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:27 PM
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This sounds like confirmation bias. 1) you didn’t put anything to verify the evidence you collected and 2) your sample population is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:19 AM
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I thought you didn’t because of your username. I figured you could afford in home care, but a lot of elder abuse flys under the radar when there’s no one who cares about the patient there to check in on the home care worker. That’s why I was asking. Thank you for your response!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:02 PM
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I’d say so a lot of “locker room” and “girl talk” is now much more accessible to the opposite sex than it was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:32 PM
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It depends on what kind of kink it is. Some femdom kinks the guy isn’t getting sex because denial of it turns him on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:25 PM
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What’s your plan for end of life care? Do you have younger siblings with families or someone to check in and make sure your aides aren’t shirking you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:21 PM
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Probably because you’re a-romantic. People who want a romantic connection crave relationships. People who want sexual release crave sex. People who aren’t really bothered about either are fine being single perpetually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:19 PM
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That doesn’t then translate to the majority of men being simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:15 PM
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So a femdom kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:15 PM
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Right? Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:14 PM
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And the people that are getting married are staying married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:13 PM
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You assuming that doesn’t mean that’s what I said. Asking for clarification works better than making incorrect assumptions. Anyway, I’ve said multiple times now that I think more help is needed post surgery and more research should be done. Are you just trying to construct a straw man and argue in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:49 PM
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I didn’t claim it didn’t help at all. I claimed it’s ineffective and additional help is still needed after surgery to alleviate suicidality. Surgery reduces dysphoria to near nonexistence if not complete nonexistence. It doesn’t do the same for suicide. So more help is needed to reduce suicidality to that same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:40 PM
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Yes, as that was what was in the conclusion of the study. It showed reassignment helped tremendously with dyphoria but more care is needed to alleviate suicidality. What led me to even look into it was a Twitter debate, I was fact checking to see if what both sides were saying had any merit and then I found that study. However, you’re free to believe whatever you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:26 PM
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The first study is pay walled so I can’t access it. The second and third studies only followed up for one year. What happened to the participants in the following decades? 4 seems to be a condensed bit of information referring to another study so I’ll go look for that. Link 5 is just the abstract but even in that one they still concluded that more than just medical transition is needed. “Finally, the conclusion is drawn that more attention ought to be paid to psychosocial guidance in addition to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:23 PM
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I don’t listen to Ben Shapiro. I read the actual study. It was by Dhejne, Lichtenstein and others. Their findings showed that there needs to be focus on helping transgender people even after surgery. They found gender affirming surgery helps tremendously with reducing dysphoria, but not with suicide. So there’s more factors at play here. Ignoring that helps no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:38 PM
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The neurological origins of either aren’t well studied enough to say either way. There’s compelling evidence on both sides of the “sexed brain” argument. It’s still being studied. They’ve found evidence that cis women and trans women have similar brains. However they’ve also found evidence that cis gay men and cis women have similar brains. So it could be that what they’re finding isn’t evidence of “sex” in the brain but something else. The research that’s being done into neurosexism bolsters th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:21 PM
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No problem! Thanks for humoring me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:28 AM
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I don’t think you’re really missing anything. My question was just more so in regards to the response the two different groups get. Bigots aside, one is validated the other is looked at as mentally ill. Transgender individuals have their issues affirmed and they receive support for the manner in which they choose to deal with the issues they have with their bodies. For people with bdd their body image issues are looked at as something they need to be cured from. Cured as in they need professiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:28 PM
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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/body-dysmorphic-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353938 Here’s a little bit about it. BDD is when an individual experiences mental anguish because of a flaw(real or imagined) with their body. It can make them extremely anxious to the point where they socially withdraw or go to extreme lengths to fix whatever it is they feel is wrong with their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:07 PM
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But for other male and female people, that isn't enough. So they take hormones, get plastic surgery, genital procedures, and so on. Which is okay since it's their body and hopefully it will help them be viewed more easily as men or women. What part about this worries you? I'm not going to bite off your head and this isn't a trap question, I'm interested in serious talk between a cis person and...whatever you want to call me lol. I know this isn’t directed for me but there is something about this…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:47 PM
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Where’s your evidence that women do settle and men don’t. The intentions are there for both, so it’s clearly a possibility for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:39 PM
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Just as you’ll find people hating on and every and anything on social media. People can complain about it all they want, but if someone wants to spew hatred online they’re going to find a way no matter what someone else has to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:24 PM
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Yep, which is why I said it only works on the type of women they intend it to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:23 PM
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Sarcasm detection negative 9000
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:29 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:29 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:20 PM
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I don’t hate men lol. That’s kind of my point. Whether I or another woman hates men or not doesn’t stop men from calling man hatred to task. Even women who aren’t like that catch flack too. It’s just how people are. If members of your group are unhinged, it calls the whole group into question whether everyone is involved or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:22 PM
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Sureeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:24 PM
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A lot: a large number or amount; a great deal. In all seriousness though. Enough that I noticed a pattern. According to rp men this is called the “rage stage”. Yes people actually do hold me accountable for women who hate men. Especially within my race. Black men say all the time black women need to take accountability for the women who went on ricki lake and other talk shows saying hateful things about them. Most of this happened before I was even born. In the world we live in, when members of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:24 PM
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Red pill poison already answered. A bit more crudely than what I was going to say but conveys the main sentiment nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:20 PM
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So you hate women. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:20 PM
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This just seems like the no true Scotsman fallacy to gaslight people out of knowing that rp(as with any community) has some hateful looney birds in their midsts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:19 PM
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A lot of rp men do hate women. I’ll try to find the comment. However I remember one on here saying that men shouldn’t look at women as if they’re people yada yada. You claim to not hate women, however that doesn’t negate the fact that there are rp men who do hate women. If you want to be treated kindly by your partner it’s best to avoid those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:56 PM
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It works on the type of women it’s intended to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:53 PM
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I think this is where your problem stems. You’re probably running into women that are a bit more reserved. May I ask why does it matter if they “misunderstand” those type of women probably wouldn’t be compatible with you anyway. Isn’t it mutually beneficial if they do you a favor by removing themselves from your pool? That way you have time to date likeminded women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:35 AM
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For some people whether you’re only looking for sex or something more doesn’t really matter. The fact that you’re willing to accept sex with no relationship shows you don’t view sex the same way they do so they understandably move on. It’s best to be honest so you can figure out who’s who and move on. It just seems like you’re opposed to that because you’re operating in a scarcity mindset and you’re overly concerned with the women who would be off put by you looking for sex. Instead your focus s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:25 AM
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No problem and likewise!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:58 PM
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It’s young people too that do it. For the younger guys though, I don’t know if they actually believe what they’re saying. Or if they’re just taking their sexual frustrations and negative feelings out on easy targets. Oh ok, I see what you mean. Those type of women are either jaded and the guy they’re crap talking happened to be the unfortunate target for her pent up frustrations that day, or they’re through and through bullies. For the toying aspect I suspect the latter because no one is going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:46 AM
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Men shame women for desiring “too much” sex with men who aren’t them, and also for sex under conditions they don’t approve of(like only fans, amateur porn etc). Idk if you’re on tiktok but the comments some porn stars get on there from lecturing them about morals and self respect is crazy, considering half of them were probably fapping to videos of the very same women they’re shaming and trolling. That’s just how people are. I’m not sure I interpreted the rest of what you said correctly but if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:10 AM
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It’s because step 1 only leads to step 3 if that’s what the person is looking for. If they’re not looking for step 3, then step 1 will only lead to step 1 and nothing more. They shame men for the same reason some men shame women. People always have and always will vocalize their opinions on things they dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:37 AM
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Women frown upon it if they’re looking for step 3. They get annoyed disgusted if there’s too many guys just looking for step one because it means there’s slim pickings for those looking for step 3. Women who only want step 1 and other men generally don’t seem to care because it either doesn’t affect them, or it’s a plus for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:16 AM
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They can but it’s not very helpful. You have to be that woman’s type and be confident. This is easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:14 AM
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I see maybe my explanation was insufficient. I’ll tell you kind of what I told the other guy I had a misunderstanding with. Attracting women for sex is step 1, attracting her for a relationship is step 2 and having a successful one is step 3. When men ask women about what women want, usually it’s because they’re having trouble with step 1. However when women hear the question they assume often incorrectly that he has step 1 down already so they give him advice for step 2 and or 3. Men apply this…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:34 AM
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😇
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:31 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:57 PM
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🌸
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:57 PM
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People doing it, doesn’t mean it’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:56 PM
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For someone who claims intellectually superiority you sure are slow on the uptake. Do you know what a catch all is? If I’ve said not to have kids in irresponsible and dysfunctional situations that means any and all situations that can fall under this umbrella. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:57 AM
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Your personality will take care of that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:55 AM
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Everything the feminists do, but for the benefit and advancement of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:55 AM
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They’re male equivalent of the feminists you speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:45 AM
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Calling out an irresponsible unhinged person is not whining. Don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:45 AM
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You seem to have a persecution complex. I’m simply looking out for the best interest of kids. They don’t ask to be born and they especially don’t ask to be born into dysfunctional situations. If you’re not confident in your ability to avoid this, then don’t have kids. Bringing them into dysfunction is cruel and selfish. No one is entitled to children, so not having them is not a penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:34 AM
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When you can answer directly let me know: “Are you an old line meninist and/or are you trying to be like the male equivalent of the feminists you speak of?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:32 AM
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It is because I asked about you specifically. Not other people. Not general reality, you in particular. It was plain old deflection. Your darvo tactics won’t work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:14 AM
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Which is why I said. Just don’t have kids. If you are not confident in your ability to find a partner who won’t weaponize the kids, resentment or not. It’s simply better to not have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:13 AM
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Ok, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:37 AM
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Is there a source for this correlation? Or are you just speaking on what you’ve personally noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:25 AM
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Again, then they would only encounter maybe one crappy person. To never encounter any crappy relationships, friendships etc shows great discernment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:24 AM
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Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:09 AM
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No you’re fine. I apologize as well if I came off rude. I forget sometimes that common slang/colloquialisms aren’t always as common as I think and that they can mean different things to different people. Thank you! God bless you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:54 AM
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Or just don’t have kids. If you can’t find a stable partner to have children with, just forego it rather than bringing children into nonsense. The issues that marriage can cause on child rearing are the same ones that can arise during co-parenting(custody and child support issues) so it’s a matter of character and values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:28 AM
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More so walking away when the other party has expressed a desire not to play. I asked about you specifically twice and you’ve deflected to others. You don’t want to give a direct answer and that’s fine. That’s your business. However since you are unwilling to answer I’ll drop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:17 AM
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Hmm maybe but personally I’d say that where you’d see the difference is she will passionately initiate vs begrudgingly oblige depending on how into him she is. Like using your blow job example. If she loves him, she’ll do it most of the time when he asks, but it will probably be lackluster. If she’s super into him though, she’ll initiate, maybe make it part of foreplay like you said and it will be a lot more passionate. I think that’s how women are for soft boundaries in general. If she loves th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:15 AM
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Whether it’s useful or not doesn’t change that it’s a direct question that you refused to answer. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:03 AM
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I don’t think you understand what’s going on. . . I didn’t make any claims about hooking up. Sleeping w/someone doesn’t automatically mean hooking up. What I was saying and what I tried to explain to you is that when the men ask, they’re asking because they’re having issues attracting women. The stuff to make her fall for you can’t/isn’t useful to them if they can’t even get past step one. Which is attracting a woman and arousing lust in her. Men ask women for help on how to achieve step one but…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:03 AM
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Didn’t answer my question. Are you an old line meninist and/or are you trying to be like the male equivalent of the feminists you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:57 AM
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Are you an old line meninist? Otherwise it doesn’t make sense to follow the logic of old school feminists unless your goal is to be their male equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:50 AM
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In the way you described openness(more positions, pushing boundaries etc) I don’t think partner attractiveness really impacts it. If someone has a sexual boundary or something they are uncomfortable with, it is what it is. However in terms of passion, enthusiasm and enjoyment, partner attractiveness definitely has a big impact. People will be way more into the sex and enthusiastic about it if they find their partner attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:45 AM
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Really? Thousands? How do women encounter those thousands of men? Does seeing them in a football stadium counts as an encounter? What are you talking about? Now from those THOUSANDS of men, remove all those who every specific woman isn't interested in, and those who aren't interested in that specific woman. Because you can't really say you avoided something that wasn't even going to happen in the first place. And how many men would that leave? And how many of them are abusers? Yes, I already exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:37 AM
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How are they insulting when men on this sub have said the very same thing? Do you go complaining to them as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:29 AM
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I gathered as much lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:15 AM
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Every woman probably encounters thousands of men during her lifetime, especially now with the advent of social media. So the fact that some women can avoid dating men who beat, verbally abuse, cheat etc while others encounter at least one shows that there’s a difference in vetting ability. This isn’t even specific to women or dating. The same can be applied to men who avoid gold-diggers and women who are trying to use and abuse them. Some people are better than others at gauging intentions. Read…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:15 AM
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Yes they are, it’s why they’ve never dated one. Yet there’s other women who have dated nothing but that. Some people are good at reading others some aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:56 AM
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I get your point. All I’m saying is that when men ask this, they’re wondering how to get women interested in sleeping with them. Not how to make a woman love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:59 PM
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This is definitely true but I’d argue most of the fears are real, it’s just people ignore the fact that they have some control over avoiding some situations that they fear, or they exaggerate the frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:43 PM
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🌸
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:02 PM
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Some of the commenters here have already mentioned it but when men ask this question they ask: what do women like/want. What the men want to know is how they can get women to sleep with them, what women hear though is how do I get this girl who finds me attractive to fall for me and they advise based off that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:02 PM
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Thank you for proving my point. 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:59 PM
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You seem jaded. My point was that there’s multiple different types of women with different views on things. There is overlap but there is no one universal way women think, feel and act. Which is why some women never experience relationship abuse, some experience it only once or twice, and others experience nothing but that. It’s 3 different types of women, having 3 different types of experiences and giving 3 different types of opinions based on said experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:45 PM
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You know the expression “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”. You can tell someone something all day long, doesn’t mean they’ll listen. Plus even if they do listen, it doesn’t mean they’ll be able to adequately comprehend and apply what you’ve told them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:43 PM
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You realize women aren’t a monolith right? Some women go their whole lives without ever having been in an abusive relationship, others experience it only once and some women find themselves in them repeatedly. The women who have never dated abusive men are the ones who are great at sensing peoples character, women who have only experienced it once or 2x were relatively good and working on luck that didn’t always work. So there’s variety. The first type of women are probably the ones you hear boa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:30 PM
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Putting yourself in the mans shoes is realizing that men put effort into things they care about. It’s realizing that if his job isn’t demanding he doesn’t see you or have in depth conversation with you daily where he remembers all the pertinent information, then he doesn’t like you. Or he’s juggling multiple women and can’t adequately keep up with everything all the women are telling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:04 AM
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No, it’s like vetting a man to sus out his intentions. Is he going to pump and dump you or is he seriously evaluating you as a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:36 PM
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Everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:32 AM
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Yet men acknowledge that and decry women using apex fallacy yet will turn around and do it to women. All the while shouting about how apex fallacy is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:23 PM
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Yes fully. Look at how women at the top vs the bottom are treated. Yet men take the experiences of too women and attempt to apply it to all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:31 PM
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Yep. They might troll or throw out sarcastic remarks but that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:00 PM
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No. I just like countering the fallacy. Most of what is said about women’s romantic experiences and sexual prowess only applies to physically attractive extroverted women but they extrapolate it to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:08 PM
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It means that their beliefs only apply to beautiful women. But they extrapolate them to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:07 PM
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That all women can have an army of simps at her disposal. I’m living proof that, that isn’t true lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:23 AM
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No, I came here to argue against the apex fallacy myths certain demographics of men here like to espouse. You get blocked if you got into the heart of the manosphere and try to do the same so I came here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:22 AM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:20 AM
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An abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:42 PM
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Yes, at least 5 reputable ones please.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:41 PM
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No. People are becoming increasingly anti social and younger millennials and gen z are having less sex than previous generations
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:25 AM
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Lmaoo theoretically yes. He was a good looking guy I was so shocked to find out he was a great grandfather already but it made sense after he explained it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:00 PM
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I can’t speak too much on that as there’s no one like that in Jamaica as far as I know. We have the rural subsistence farmers who suffer greatly during natural disasters because they lose a lot of what they’ve grown and they don’t have much money to buy food in the cities. For hunterer gatherers though would they even be able to handle City living physically, academically and emotionally? Janitors in the third world don’t make anything, living in the city is expensive, if you’re used to fresh co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:59 PM
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Which is like saying "lovable women are only loved if they're also human". Reddit men are so weird about this. Your sexual desirability isn’t your humanity. ”Men who weren't sexually attracted to them"? That doesn't compute. Don't you mean men who weren't willing to commit to them? No I mean men who weren’t sexually attracted to them. As in these men thought they had great personalities and were good company but they couldn’t love them because they weren’t sexually attracted to them. The lovable…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:58 PM
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There’s always only been one me. Unless you’re telling me I was cloned against my consent🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:04 PM
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It’s not vague at all. Here’s the definition: food insecurity- the state of being without reliable access to a sufficient quantity of affordable, nutritious food. For some reason you just want to believe misfortune people don’t exist in the modern world. That’s your business though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:03 PM
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You made it less clear and jumbled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:00 PM
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Death and despair will surround them either way. It’s a matter of which way is worse to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:00 PM
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You came to me feel free to leave any time. Also yes it does food insecure means they don’t have consistent access to nutrient sufficient food. Learn what it means before you try to argue about it. Have a good day though!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:59 PM
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I don’t think so. As far as chastity go’s I don’t think there has ever been a time where women cared as much as men whether their partner was a virgin. There also seems to be a bug difference in what women consider “too high” vs men what men consider “too high”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:57 PM
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I do. I discuss the content of the statement not whether or not it’s his place to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:55 PM
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Yes, as that would fall under the umbrella of “long term deprivation of nutrition”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:51 PM
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No it’s of child custody cases in general. Whether they’re a result of a divorce or because don’t forget the figure also includes non-married couples and parents who were never in any kind of romantic relationship at all. https://legaljobs.io/blog/child-custody-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:51 PM
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I read it once and that’s more than enough. The statement being validated by the very type of men it’s about holds significantly more weight than one person disagreeing with who the statement is being made by.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:44 PM
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No problem! I’d argue it’s the norm as there’s a wide spread historical precedent of men preferring chaste women all across the world. It’s only fairly recently and almost exclusively in western societies where there’s now a little bit more diversity of opinion on women’s chastity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:43 PM
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The vast majority of child custody cases are decided out of court too though so in most cases parents are deciding their custody agreements among themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:35 PM
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https://unitedwaynca.org/stories/food-insecurity-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:32 PM
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It varied slightly but for the most part the answers seemed to be more than 3-5 dicks. The answers also varied for marriage vs non marital ltr. For marriage they want 0-3 dicks, for non-marital ltr the range seemed to be 3-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:17 PM
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Idk if you know what clubhouse in but the other day I was in a very popular room where men were discussing how you can tell a women is/was promiscuous even if she seems wholesome. They said, -Colored hair -Living alone under the age of 30 -“Succubus” or “1000 cock stare” -Current of former member of a sorority -Short hair -Tattoos -Single under 30 And they went on and on. Looking up more about this it seems it’s a rule of thumb quite a few men go by but what they consider a “slut tell” varies sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:08 PM
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I haven’t been to Africa but in the Caribbean poor food insecure people often fair better staying in their rural impoverished areas than moving to big cities when they have no skills because in the rural areas they’re broke but safe and typically have somewhere relatively hygienic to live. In the cities the conditions are much harsher. So no I haven’t been duped by anyone. I’m basing it off what I’ve seen of actual poor people in developing nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:01 PM
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First my response reads exactly as I said it whatever you chose to project onto it has nothing to do with what I actually said. I’ll condense it again for you. The monkey branch desire is not sex-specific, it’s just easier for one sex to manifest than the other. Here’s the stats on infidelity to provide more clarity: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america The guy comes back to his wife because he risks losing more if he leaves her. If that obstacle was…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:58 PM
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Starvation: Long-term, severe deprivation of nutrition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:52 PM
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😂 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:51 PM
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I’m not speaking of my personal experience. It’s from listening to how men feel about n-count and sex. Most these days they don’t flat out ask as they feel women will lie. Instead they’ve developed a thing called “slut tells” and grade women based on that to decide if they’re worth emotional investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:51 PM
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Plenty of men here think she does get it at least for that specific topic and are co-signing the message as accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:47 PM
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Not true at all. It depends on what the kids say if they’re old enough to have one and who spent more time raising them. This is how my parents divorce went down. Plus my dad got alimony. If you get alimony and also have to pay child support you can use part of your alimony to go towards that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:46 PM
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When it comes time to him deciding your value as a long term partner. The other dicks will come into question. I’m not talking about pump and dumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:43 PM
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I don’t go on FDS really, so idk. Lovable women are only loved if they’re also sexually appealing/good enough to fuck. Otherwise you’ll be a placeholder until he finds a woman who is lovable and fuckable. The other myriad of ways do come up. There’s so many women crying because they tried to make themselves lovable to men who weren’t sexually attracted to them. The lovable factor is largely irrelevant in a mans eyes unless you’re also fuckable. If you do lovable and endearing things without meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:41 PM
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Your comment didn’t even in anyway imply that only men can be shallow. Simply that women assume that when learning of male sexuality. Some people are just committed to misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:40 PM
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Her point became even more clear and accurate because she added that. She directly responded to common thoughts women have about male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:39 PM
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That’s fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:15 PM
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There’s starvation in modern areas too for people who can’t afford to buy food consistently and soup kitchens/charity is just barely keeping them afloat. For less developed areas those people don’t have the skills, income to afford to move to more modern areas. Their traditionalist lifestyle often provides them more than living in a modern area would. Which is why they cling to it despite the challenges.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:15 PM
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Men can and are definitely stolen in the same way. They monkey branch and cheat too. They just have less opportunities to do so. However when they are presented with the same opportunities they will also fold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:09 PM
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This isn’t new or unknown and it’s strange that you chose to pathologize this to women specifically. People in happy relationships having celebrity crushes has been known for a while and it’s where the concept of “hall passes” came from. That one celeb your partner would give you free reign to hook up with or who they’d understand if you cheated on them with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:07 PM
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Both things are true the women are pressured and forced into those relationships and to make matters worse they have absolutely no control over the fertility. They can’t deny their husbands sexually and they can’t prevent pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:01 PM
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You’d be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:56 PM
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The thing that gets me is that they believe all these horrible things about CF people yet still try to pressure them to have kids. It’s crazy lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:53 PM
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I met a 39 year old great grandpa in New York. It was because of 3 generations of teen parents starting with him. He had a kid at 13, his son at 13 and his grandson at 14. He great granddaughter was born just before his 40th birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:52 PM
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He’s trying to cut the competition
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:45 PM
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Did you try dating in other areas? Like looking for people outside of your town/city or even state? Black women have similar ranking to Asian men on dating apps. I tried to level up my looks as best as I could but ultimately what helped me was switching up location.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:41 PM
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Plenty of men are agreeing with her overall sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:35 PM
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The other “myriad of ways” only matter once you’ve met his sexual requirements. So what she said is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:35 PM
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It’s not unnecessary, it’s bolstering her point about how it’s un-relatable to women. It’s necessary for that as the thoughts she listed are common thoughts women have when hearing of men’s Madonna-whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:34 PM
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She didn’t frame it as “man bad, woman good.” She simply explained it while also acknowledging it’s something most women can’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:31 PM
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South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia etc are seeing drops in their birth rates too. African birth rates overall are still higher than Europe’s but many countries world wide are seeing birth declines it’s just at varying rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:17 PM
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Food being thrown away doesn’t negate overpopulation. There’s millions of starving people world wide. So much food gets wasted because people in a lot of developed countries are glutinous and not sustainable or conscious of their consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:12 PM
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I think he’s talking about divorce only. Men take a financial hit in divorce if they out-earn their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:10 PM
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Women only gain from divorce if they make less. If you make the same or more than your husband then marriage and divorce are a raw deal. Double negative. With women out earning a lot of eligible men this will be there reality if they want to get married. I think just as many women know that as men so they avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:09 PM
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I think they’re referring to the fact that you sent 2 separate paragraphs to respond to a q that could’ve been answered w/a simple “yes” or “no”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:08 PM
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If women wanted kids that badly they could have them even without marriage as many have already done. I don’t think men not marrying is the issue. It’s the expense and risk that comes from birthing and raising a child. It’s becoming increasingly unaffordable for even 2 parent families.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:05 PM
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The point is to validate women who already feel that way. The information is very easily accessible but you still have to go look for it. It’s not as mainstream as other women’s topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:59 AM
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Everything is silly to someone. At the end of the day though, those women feel orgasms are important and they will arrange their sex life in a way to maximize their chances of having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:39 PM
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No problem. For people that live in homophobic cultures I completely understand. My own father told me he’d disown me if I married a woman. So it makes sense that the fear may motivate many to keep their sexuality hidden. The point about men married to women is also a very valid point that I didn’t think about before so thank you for bringing that up. Admittedly I was more so thinking of bi men in western cultures. People here may still have issues with their families but as far as dating and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:38 PM
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I still don’t get it. Using your example. The racists are acting in a bigoted way because they don’t want the black family to interact with others. With the women, they’re not putting those conditions on gay or bi men. They support them dating interacting with whoever they wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:27 PM
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An example. Being an unkempt, sloppy dresser. Someone who doesn’t care for their appearance beyond showers here and there vs super high maintenance, expensive clothes, expensive skincare, nail and hair care etc. Those are two extremes. A nice middle ground would be having a good sense of personal style, keeping your nails clean and trimmed. To give an equivalent example for women so you see what I’m saying without it being as loaded. Makeup. There’s men that absolutely hate it and others that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:25 PM
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You don’t date people who are the same as you. While you condemn others for doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:27 AM
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So you’ve never been thrifting or shopped on let go? Every place you’ve ever lived in you were the very first? Every restaurant you’ve ever paid to eat in you were the first?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:27 AM
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It’s really not politically motivated lol. Women are not lobbying for that issue the way they were for the wage gap. It’s just women who want the big o sharing their gripes about it and discussing their opinions on the numbers(numbers being how frequently it happens in heterosexual sex for men vs women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:12 AM
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You already answered it. You are a hypocrite by your own logic. Have a good day/night!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:11 AM
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So you’ve never been thrifting or shopped on let go, Facebook market place, Craigslist etc? Every place you’ve ever lived in you were the very first? Every restaurant you’ve ever paid to eat in you were the first?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:10 AM
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So you’ve never been thrifting or shopped on let go, Facebook market place, Craigslist etc? Every place you’ve ever lived in you were the very first? Every restaurant you’ve ever paid to eat in you were the first?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:47 PM
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No one is saying that though, That is inevitably where this train of logic leads. Unless you’re arguing that some forms of “bigotry” are ok, and that it is fine and just for them to exist, then the conclusion would be that this “bigotry” has to be rectified by ensuring everyone is equally attracted to all groups. Similar to how we deal with racism in the workplace or at school by ensuring employees and employers all treat each other equally no matter what ethnic, religious, etc group they belong…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:46 PM
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It’s a very straightforward question. I very clearly said “people” so your lack of attraction to women is irrelevant. Anyway are the men you date exactly like you? You dipping and dodging the question and making up excuses not to answer it tells me everything I need to know. You’re projecting your own hypocrisy onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:08 PM
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Orgasms are a measure of sexual satisfaction. It’s an aspect of sexual satisfaction that a lot of women are missing out on. Those who feels it’s an important aspect are discussing it in a way they feel is productive and since orgasms are something they desire they adjust their sex lives to maximize the possibility of that happening. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:01 PM
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Ok so you’re a hypocrite who’s projecting. You dodging the q speaks volumes. Start with yourself if you want to call someone out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:55 PM
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It’s not hypocritical. It’s attraction. Do you only date and pursue people exactly like you to a T? If not you’re hypocritical as well according to your own logic. The difference between expectation and desire seems to be what’s confusing you here. Men can be whatever they want. If you don’t want to be traditional don’t. You have that freedom. A woman’s desires for a partner has(or at least I hope you don’t allow it to) any bearing on your romantic choices. Unless you want to be what she desires…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:22 PM
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No one deserves anything. Doesn’t change the fact that there’s nothing wrong with liking what you like. Some women are only attracted to chivalrous masculine men. You not liking that doesn’t make them wanting that wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:08 PM
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It’s not a double back flip it’s pointing out a logical solution, finding a nice middle ground will appeal to a larger mass of people vs focusing solely on the opinions of those on the extreme ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:52 PM
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It is a greenhouse in continental climate. You cannot work on the greenhouse while knee-deep in snow; Uh yes you can lol. I’ve never had to work on a greenhouse but I’ve had to help my dad gather firewood and do repairs in knee deep snow. We just wore snow boots and goofy looking snow suits. Similar to this but this one is a lot more fashionable than what we would wear lol. you'll get lung inflammation and die. They have construction masks for a reason. It helps to stop you from breathing in par…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:51 PM
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It’s not racist and anyone who thinks it is, is simply hiding their sexual entitlement under a social justice umbrella. That’s what the bi men here are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:27 PM
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Lol. I’ve noticed that to. Black people or chattel slavery are the go to comparisons for everything non-blk people find mildly inconveniencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:24 PM
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I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. That person could not want to date black people or bi people yet professionally and platonically give them the same respect and regard they give everyone. That’s what I’m saying. Like they don’t let their sexual preferences dictate how they treat others outside of dating and sex. It’s not pretending that the biases don’t exist. It’s acknowledging that their existence isn’t immoral or unjust in terms of dating/sex because no one is owed sexual or r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:17 PM
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None of what you said changes the fact that the target audience is women. Men were not the target audience of those articles so them internalizing it was not the goal. If after reading that a woman decides she doesn’t want a relationship that’s her business. Not having an orgasm doesn’t make the sex bad but having one undeniably improves the experience. If a woman decides that’s the sexual standard she wants to set for herself that’s also her business. Women just identified and discussed that an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:01 PM
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It is a logical thought. If you do not want to be pumped and dumped and X is a sign that it will happen. X will serve as a red flag. In this case X=a man out of her league. So it’s neither flawed nor illogical. It’s a reasonable assumption based on probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:44 PM
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All the things you listed can also be done by women, the women you’re around just don’t have that skill set. None of the examples you gave are exclusively things one gender can do. They’re things anyone can do if the put effort into learning them or working hard. Also after you’ve given more specifics it seems a lot of the women you’re talking about are old. Of course they’re more limited in what they can do. They’re past their prime and no longer as strong and resilient as they were when they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:18 PM
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Just as some men’s forums blame women for men’s issues. At the end of the day you’re not the target audience and internalization by the opposite sex wasn’t/isn’t the goal. The goal is to create a space for people of the same sex to share their common experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:04 PM
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By the numbers I meant some bi men were through out that 2/3 stat. After fact checking it seems they were pretty accurate. One survey found that 63% of women would not date a bisexual man. You’re a funny guy lol. Thanks for your responses though!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:03 PM
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Moderation is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:56 PM
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Plus some people prefer only dating their race for cultural reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:29 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:29 PM
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That’s probably how you chose to read it. It mostly made waves in women’s publications and it was about letting women know their issues aren’t as uncommon as they may have thought. It’s like GQ or men health posting about how different men deal with ED and stats about ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:28 PM
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I’m aware. I vote republican and I try to slowly sway my peers. Social services are going to burden younger millennials and gen z more than it will help us. Especially the ones for the elderly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:26 PM
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It’s not racism because you can’t control who you’re physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:14 PM
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https://today.yougov.com/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2015/06/09/breaking https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:13 PM
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I think you missed this part incentivize young voters to ensure this happens. As for the second part of your comment. There’s still time for young people to cut social services before things really hit the fan. So it goes back to my other point. If you incentivize them to come out and vote for their best interests in the next coming years they could cut the financial burden that the elderly will present. Otherwise the problem might take care of itself with the inevitable healthcare professional …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:11 PM
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So what’s your solution or take on it? Data on the orgasm gap shows us that it’s harder for women to get off than men. So logically I can understand why they’re trying to find ways to ensure they(women) get sexual pleasure as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:08 PM
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The point about PPD makes sense. Women can be are polite and respectful to men even when it doesn’t benefit them which brings me back to questioning why the barometer isn’t polite neutrality. With lgbt specifically straight women vote in favor of progressing lgbt rights even though it doesn’t benefit them to do so as it really has no bearing on their life. So I don’t see why them not dating bisexual men invalidates this. I don’t understand why the sexual or romantic interest or lack thereof is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:07 PM
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It’s because they’re not racist and forcing attraction doesn’t do anyone any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:56 PM
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They’re slaves twice over when they have to serve a man because most women still had to work outside the home while also working inside the home. Only UMC and wealthy women could really afford to stay home. Poor and LMC women had to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:53 PM
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Or just cut funding for social services for the elderly and incentivize young voters to ensure this happens. That will lift a lot of economic strain without having to pop out more babies to deal with problems they didn’t create.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:51 PM
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You’re twisting it. All she’s saying is she’s aware of the probability and wouldn’t put herself in that situation because she knows it will be a pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:44 PM
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Actually for non-marital ltrs the rate of dissolution is fairly equal among both genders. The disparity starts with marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:36 PM
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Probably both because insecurities around looks most likely wouldn’t form if looks weren’t important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:31 PM
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Not really because she probably gets approached by similar kinds of guys. Or at least guys of relatively the same attractiveness. If someone who severely deviates from that approaches her, she’ll probably be suspicious because it’s out of the ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:25 PM
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I usually find the woman more attractive but I think it may just be because physically speaking women are more appealing for me to look at than men. Irl I don’t think I’ve ever come across a couple where the man was hotter, online though I’ve seen 2. The relative attractiveness of the two people runs the gamut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:20 PM
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Yeah. Have you ever visited the incel forums before the got banned? Even some of them had racial preferences still. People like what they like and they’ll stay single if/when they can’t find it. Races are varied but you still know you’re going to find certain physical features like hair or skin color at much higher frequencies in some races and not others. Racial preferences aren’t racist and even the people who feel they are, are wishy washy about their standards. For example it’s been found th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:16 PM
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Or people can just avoid dating those they’re incompatible with. If your partner turns you off instead of forcing yourself to accept it, would it not just be healthier for both people to go their separate ways and find people who can genuinely and sincerely love and desire them fully? I just genuinely don’t understand why someone would prefer lying and hiding themselves to be with a partner instead of going for a partner that can truly accept them not just “get over” their lack of attraction to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:49 PM
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Why does it matter if that mans biases don’t exit the dating realm?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:45 PM
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Ok, thank you for sharing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:44 PM
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That’s the vibe I was getting from the comments on the bi men thread, I’ve also seen this time and time again with other things. Especially when it comes to advocates for certain groups who don’t/didn’t date from the groups they’re advocating for. It’s very strange to me to put sexual/romantic conditions or requirements for someone’s advocacy to be valid. You don’t have to want to date or sleep with someone to genuinely care about their human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:43 PM
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From the numbers given here on the sub it’s more so 2/3 women that wouldn’t date bi men so it’s high but not 99% You can prefer not to date bi men while simultaneously not shaming men for being bi. So I don’t really buy the stance that womens allyship is invalidated if they don’t allow the group they’re advocating for sexual or romantic access to themselves. Also does the number of women who don’t want to date bi men really have that much bearing? It seems many bi men prefer dating men, so women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:41 PM
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Decent point about the difference in popularity between both threads. Why do you think that is when Reddit is mostly male? Why is the barometer appreciation and not polite neutrality? Sexual interest has no inherent ties to someone’s ability to be polite, respectful and fair in their dealings with people in everyday life and a woman can do that for men she is not sexually attracted to. Also I don’t see how you can be hateful and phobic of someone but still value them as human beings. Those thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:33 PM
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Interesting take, would you please mind expanding a bit on what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:28 PM
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It’s definitely not mostly women who do it. Dating app data shows that men and women both exclude races, but they just exclude different races. Either way it’s not racist. People like what they like. You can’t force yourself to be into people you’re not. As long as you’re not letting your sexual preferences dictate how you treat people professionally and platonically I genuinely don’t see the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:28 PM
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I have one and it gives me enough of a boost to help those who need it even if I’m busy and my social battery is drained. That’s it though. If I keep trying to put my headphones back in or I’ve said “oh wow” “cool” for the 5th time and you still don’t stop talking to me I’m going to be annoyed. I’m not rude to people about it though. My annoyance is my issue to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:08 AM
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Let me explain. People don’t always want to be bothered. There will be times when they want to go about their day unimpeded. Let’s say that happens once a month there’s a chance that at least one of those 12 times a year someone will interrupt them when they don’t want to be interrupted. Being annoyed at that isn’t weird. The frequency of this will vary depending on where a person falls on the introvert extrovert spectrum. I said I’m ok with being approached if the person needs help. Otherwise I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:51 AM
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Being a social creature doesn’t mean you want to be bothered 24/7 even when you have things to do. Even extroverts have times when they don’t want to be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:25 AM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:43 PM
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I do always have headphones with the exceptions of occasions I forget them. Never stopped people from trying to make small talk. I even take it further and try to be as boring as possible without being rude. Either way though most people just want to go about their day in peace and it’s not weird to be peeved at that being interrupted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:43 PM
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This is a fair take. Thank you for your responses and this is along the lines of how I feel. It sucks getting rejected for being black or being bi but I don’t take it personally if someone doesn’t date people in my respective demographics if they don’t make it personal. People like what they like. Again, thank you for your response!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:41 PM
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1)Being annoyed at being Interrupted while you’re going about your day doesn’t mean someone has issues unless they berate and mistreat the person who did so. 2)I actually probably would mind as I don’t like when random people I don’t know just come up to me for no reason. A lot of the times when I’m out and about alone I have a lot of things to do and would greatly prefer not to be interrupted while I’m trying to go about my business. The only exception is if they need help with something. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:22 PM
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What does that mean then? And how is a woman who doesn’t want to date bi who supports lgbt rights functionally different from a woman who does date bi men and also support lgbt rights platonically and professionally? What is bigotry if not a form of hatred? The actions/thought required to be a bigot fit the definition of hatred. So what is bigotry if not that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:15 PM
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Ok have a good day/night! (:
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:12 PM
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Or she was annoyed at being interrupted by a stranger when she has things to do or is enjoying some peaceful leisure time. It’s rude to mistreat someone because of that because they didn’t know but it’s perfectly valid to be temporarily peeved about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:00 PM
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So what does bigotry mean to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:58 PM
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Oh ok I see it now. From reading through the threads though when it’s a commonly rejected group it seems many people feel no reason is good enough to reject a demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:58 PM
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Your claim: You are literally lying about what words mean and I'm the one that can't defend a point...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:57 PM
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I see your point but this isn’t exactly what I was asking lol. I’m asking why it’s assumed that women harbor hatred to the demographics of men that they sexually reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:56 PM
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The definition I’m using is bigotry=hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:55 PM
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Depends on how he approaches but that goes into my last sentence. He did something that will now draw out a feeling in her. Before his approach it was apathy and shortly after she feels her feelings about the encounter she will once again return to apathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:54 PM
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Maybe I was unclear. I was asking why when women sexually reject a group of men it’s assumed that the women hate that demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:53 PM
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Is it fairly recent on your page I’ll try and check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:49 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. I’m just bringing up the difference in reaction to the same opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:47 PM
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Oh ok that’s their business if they want to feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:46 PM
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You can clearly see that there’s more than one definition right. . . Yet you still accused me of lying about what the definitions say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:45 PM
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So then the focus should be on ensuring that people don’t let their sexuality cloud their professional judgement. Not on trying to change what people are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:42 PM
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I’d agree with that too but as you said, it’s viewed as a classist take and then the “c00n and “new black” insults start flying. However the poor sector makes up a large and very visible and vocal sector so that’s where most peoples minds(especially non-black peoples minds) go when they think of the black community in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:26 PM
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No I wouldn’t. At worst I’d think it was crass, maybe even mean but not bigoted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:55 PM
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I can empathize because it sucks being rejected for things you can’t change but that’s not on the person doing the rejecting to deal with. I’m not and never was happy to be rejected because I’m bisexual or because I’m black and but I realized people like what they like so there’s no sense being better about other peoples preferences. I guess we can agree to disagree then I don’t fine rejecting groups of people in terms of dating/sex to be bigoted. Some people have very specific types and they’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:54 PM
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I’m not of the mindset that not dating certain races is inherently racist. As long as how you platonically or professionally treat people isn’t affected I don’t see it as an issue to exclude any groups. Doing so isn’t bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:31 PM
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How so? All I did was give the main definitions of homophobia, biphobia, the first couple of prejudice and the definition of bigot. I never once lied about what words mean. Their meanings are plain as day in the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:29 PM
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Living is preferable to death which is what suicide leads to, but its not preferable to never existing. They’re similar but not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:07 PM
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Getting to the bottom of why they won’t date X often does nothing to change the situation unless it was born from trauma and you work with them to heal it enough to feel comfortable dating someone from a certain group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:03 PM
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On her Instagram you won’t see it because her fans will rip you a new one in the comments if you dare say anything against her. However if someone else makes a post about her you’ll see people calling her out and her fans arguing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:01 PM
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Except it wasn’t any gender related sub. It was subs that are contemptuous towards women. Mgtows get a bit saucier than trp and incel forums can especially take a dark turn when they don’t have to worry about community guidelines. So he felt comfortable saying what he said in those spaces specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:00 PM
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So how far do we take this? You can’t choose who you’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:58 PM
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I haven’t seen anyone post about her on Facebook but on Instagram, ig and YouTube she also catches flack for her disgusting behavior. If by steaming platforms you mean Apple Music, Spotify etc. Of course she’s ok, her fans are almost as loyal as Beyoncé’s and they will stream and do numbers for her. Outside of her fandom she’s caught flack.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:54 PM
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Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. Homophobia: dislike of or prejudice against gay people. Biphobia: dislike of or prejudice against bisexual people. Prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. -dislike, hostility, or unjust behavior deriving from unfounded opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:53 PM
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If the person doesn’t let their sexual preferences cloud how they treat people platonically or professionally how are they are bigot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:43 PM
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It being mean doesn’t mean it’s hateful. If you don’t want to date women over 35 for that reason that’s your business and I wouldn’t label you a bigot for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:42 PM
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I see you’ve never been on Twitter. Everyone who knows who she is cares and find the fact that she married and had a kid with a sex offender disturbing besides her delusional fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:42 PM
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Ad hominem because you can’t defend your point. As expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:37 PM
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It is when you’re talking about potential peoples lives. We don’t know if we’re bringing them into a situation where they will suffer or not. Birthing them based on the possibility that they may be able to fix what we and our ancestors screwed up is what’s truly selfish. You’re burdening them with problems they didn’t ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:37 PM
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They can feel that way if they want. Doesn’t make it racist. Like seriously how is a man who dates black women, advocates for black rights, sticks up when he sees black people being discriminated against and who values black people as human beings functionally any different from a man who does all of the aforementioned who doesn’t date black women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:35 PM
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Not successfully. We can worry about adding more people to the mix when the problems are solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:30 PM
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All sexual preferences are ok as long as they’re legal and they don’t harm or injure anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:30 PM
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So then it’s neutral. Humans don’t seem to putting sincere effort into changing other things. Doesn’t make sense to keep throwing bodies at problems that are not being fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:24 PM
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The common English definition includes harm. Not sleeping with someone doesn’t harm the person rejected. Me being honest is dishonest and disgusting lol. Anyway, self reflection is how I moved from a view similar to yours, to my current one on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:23 PM
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No. If you don’t date black people that’s your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:22 PM
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No preferences are born from thin air but trying to change them on a societal level will just lead us in circles. It’s why I personally think it makes more sense to focus on the bigger things. Like ensuring the hiring process is as objective as possible and that people are aware of their biases and how they treat students, colleagues, clients etc. As for dating though I don’t think there will ever be a way to make people view every single group within the gender or sex they’re attracted to equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:21 PM
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I only have one that hates men in general. She doesn’t date them at all and everything thing about men repulses her. For women in general though I’d say most don’t care about men one way or the other and their feelings are only changed if men do something to gather a positive or negative reaction. Then you’ll see them compliment or degrade, then they return to apathy until something else happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:17 PM
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No. That’s his business.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:13 PM
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The actual definition of prejudice includes harm and injury. Neither of which occur when not dating a group of people. What else is the point of tossing someone in a group with those who believe in conversion therapy, institutionalization, legal discrimination or murder based on one’s sexuality? It’s 100% about sexual rejection because someone refusing to date a group of people affects nothing beyond shrinking the pool of eligible bachelors/bachelorettes for those in the group that are excluded.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:03 PM
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The entire human race will be at stake whether women pop out babies or not. We’re not using earths resources in a sustainable manner and it’s going to come to a halt sooner or later. Imo, less people around for that day is less cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:58 PM
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No I’m directly comparing two posts asking people if they would date bisexuals. One asking men if they would date bisexual women. Another asking women if they would date bisexual men. The people who said they wouldn’t gave very similar reasons. If the reasons were stereotypical they were both called out for that but only the women were labeled bigoted, homophobic etc while the men weren’t for the same thing. So that’s what led to my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:57 PM
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It does not fit in general. You are not calling a spade your are mislabeling people based on your own feelings of their sexual preferences in an attempt to coerce them into changing said preferences. Not dating bisexual men isn’t homophobia. If it doesn’t affect how they treat those men platonically and professionally which it typically doesn’t. It’s not homophobic. So once again. Trying to frame sexual rejection as a social issue doesn’t change the fact that your real beef is with sexual reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:46 PM
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They’re not. They’re just selfish about different things. Looking out for your best interest and self preservation is human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:43 PM
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If they’re not harboring hatred I don’t see how it’s an issue then. The black “community” is very dysfunctional and I suspect that also plays into why bisexual black men have a different time than bi men of other races. I guess it’s just a matter of opinion. I have friends who wouldn’t date black people or bi people. I don’t consider them a bigot and they don’t think lesser of black people or bi people. They just have their own preference. I just don’t see why someone being sexually or romantica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:41 PM
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So essentially it’s rejected people hypocritically choosing when sexual preferences are and aren’t ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:38 PM
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No, I’m not saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:31 PM
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It does not fit in general sorry that offends you. Not wanting to sleep with a group of people doesn’t mean you harbor ill will towards them. You’re allowed to sexually reject others for whatever reason you want and it doesn’t belie bigotry unless you are disrespectful or worse to members of that that group in work, school, professional or neutral social settings. You can not dare a group while not being bigoted towards that group. When people try to label and shame others for rejecting certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:30 PM
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It’s not hatred either way though. Which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:26 PM
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Discord
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:25 PM
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Yeah humans are selfish. Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:24 PM
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Are all mgtows sexless? I thought only those who were also incels or in monk mode were. It matters because the views espoused on those subs made him feel comfortable to do that. He just misread how far he could take things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:24 PM
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So make a new website. Incels, fencers and others with unsavory opinions have done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:21 PM
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I have a broad spectrum of examples. Sexual/romantic rejection doesn’t fit in. Sorry that offends you. Not my problem though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:20 PM
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I answered you directly multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:15 PM
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That doesn’t answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:15 PM
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None of what you said negates what I said. Those women still have the time to have a kid without it taking away from other aspects of their lives and they feel they are emotionally able to have a kid without being burnt out. Whether this turns out to be true in practice is a different story but at the time of conception they felt they could afford to have a kid so they did. Women who feel they can’t afford to have a kid don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:15 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:13 PM
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I have some that are attractive if they aren’t into the guy and reject him they mostly just comment positively or negatively on how he approached for a few minutes then they forget about it. They harbor no hatred or ill will towards the guy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:13 PM
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Why is that a bad thing though? If you don’t want to sleep with people but you can still respect and support them I don’t see how it’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:07 PM
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Hating and wishing harm on someone doesn’t always mean killing as I’ve said in another comment to you. I have no negative bias towards lgbt people myself. I’m bisexual myself. I just find it counter productive and coercive to label people bigots for not wanting to sleep with bisexual people. Someone can respect your humanity and fully support you without wanting to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:06 PM
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It can’t be because women only have kids when they can afford to in terms of time, expense and finances. I realized I forgot to add in emotional before expense. However you ignored this still. Afford means more than just money. If a woman doesn’t have time for a kid and could not emotionally handle that she’s not having one. Monetary/finances will be the last nail in the coffin. Women who have the time for a kid and feel they can have the emotional capacity to do so have kids either on they’re o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:03 PM
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The men in that thread. They claimed the women were sexually rejecting bisexual men because of hatred, bigotry, homophobia, biphobia and prejudice. These same accusations were not lauded towards the men who gave the same reasons women did for rejection bisexuals. So it seems a lot of men tie who a woman sleeps with into who she values as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:59 PM
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How do you think this specifically ties into judgement calls based on people not dating bisexuals? The men and women on ppd gave very similar reasons for not dating bisexuals but the women were chastised to a much greater degree. Both sides were called out if their refusal relied on stereotypes but it was pretty much only women who were accused of being homophobic and hating bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:55 PM
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The ones who can afford to are having them. Women who can’t aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:53 PM
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You labeling people as hating and wishing harm on others is your problem and it’s sick. That’s ultimately your business though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:53 PM
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Like I asked someone else I still don’t understand how men go from thinking this to assuming the woman hates the men or group of men she won’t sleep with why is that the conclusion instead of thinking she values the men she sleeps with more(while still valuing the humanity of men she won’t sleep with) or that she is simply apathetic to the men she sleeps with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:52 PM
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Welfare takes care of the finances not emotional or time. So again, women who can’t afford them won’t have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:50 PM
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You do. The second definition of the term is literally harm or injury and overall prejudice is not a harmless thing. So to call someone that implies they harm or want to harm the group you’re claiming they’re prejudiced against.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:50 PM
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Women don’t accept it because when you say someone is a homophobe you’re lumping them in with those who throw gay people from buildings, stone them, those who support conversion therapy, think lgbt people are destined for hell and wish all manner of ill will upon them. If this is not how a woman feels about bisexual men why would she accept someone telling her that’s how she feels about bisexual men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:47 PM
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I’ve answered your q directly every time you asked. You didn’t like my answer so you keep asking thinking you’ll get a different one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:44 PM
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Ok so not wanting to sleep with a person or members of a certain group means I sanction their oppression and mistreatment according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:43 PM
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It can’t be because women only have kids when they can afford to in terms of time, expense and finances. The women who aren’t having kids are not doing so because it’s not an option for them. So the single motherhood rate will probably never get high enough to offset the declining population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:41 PM
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I don't think is about being valued as a human being. It's frustration at the very real experience of being rejected for, honestly, petty reasons. I get this but this isn’t what they were saying. The claims being made were that women who didn’t want to date bisexual men were harboring hatred, bigotry towards those men. When the women brought up counter points to show that outside of dating they don’t treat bi men negatively it was invalidated because they still wouldn’t date bi men. Wanting a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:39 PM
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When someone says you harbor hatred towards a group of people what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:35 PM
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It is not rooted in homophobia it is personal preference. Not wanting to sleep with a group of people doesn’t inherently mean that you hate that group of people. It’s sick to tie in value as human to sexual access. You can support and advocate for the rights of a group without wanting to sleep with people within that group. You don’t need to validate your support with sexual access. Someone can simply be sexually turned off by the idea of a man being into other men while also not hating them and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:33 PM
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If that’s the case then why conflate the two? Why make an argument about devaluing the person’s humanity and harboring hatred for them when your actual issue is lack of sexual access?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:28 PM
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What you said is not true at all. I date men and women. There’s diversity in the profiles unless you have a specific type or gravitate towards a specific type. Then the dating app algorithms will start to show you either 1/2 things. A type of person they think you’ll like or a type of person they think you’ll have the best chance of matching with based on your swipes. That’s probably why you’re seeing the same profiles over and over. Regardless, your claims are way off base when it comes to wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:27 PM
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Do you mind elaborating on your second paragraph a bit? What exactly do you mean when you say people’s personal preferences are sacrosanct but others preferences are free game in terms of criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:24 PM
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Yes and I’ll keep saying it. Single mothers aren’t having enough kids to deal with the fertility crisis so bringing them up as a solution even in a facetious manner is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:23 PM
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Not seeing the connection between swirling subs and the fact that men are indeed shallow too and that even incels have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:22 PM
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So deport the men and keep the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:16 PM
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When combining single motherhood rates and married birth rates you get the overall birth rate. The overall birth rate is dropping. Single mothers aren’t having enough kids to keep the population numbers up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:15 PM
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Agree to disagree then. Hatred is a very strong emotion. I don’t think most women are contemptuously fixated on men they don’t want to sleep with. They just reject them and move on probably never to think of them again provided they don’t run in the same circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:14 PM
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Where does this idea come from though? Why is it that she specifically hates those men vs just being neutral or apathetic towards them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:09 PM
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It is. The single motherhood rate isn’t enough to offset the overall fertility crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:07 PM
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There’s no Leo’s here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:06 PM
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That’s the take you’re going with. The numbers are a bit off though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:06 PM
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Yet out of all the subs they could frequent. They chose certain subs with specific and similar themes/ideas. Why is that? Something in those subs spoke to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:05 PM
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Even going with your earlier comment how does that then translate into women hate the men they won’t sleep with? Why is the assumption hatred vs apathy for the men she won’t sleep with? Or even simply that she values the men she will sleep with more while still being able to value the humanity of men she doesn’t sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:04 PM
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Ok this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:02 PM
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It literally doesn’t. They’re telling you their reasons why when asked and their minds are budging. If you don’t want to know why someone won’t date another person or group of people don’t ask. People rarely elaborate on why they won’t date others until they’re asked. That’s what happened here. The women were asked why they’re not into bi-men. It wasn’t unprompted. Have a good one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:02 PM
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Shame and ridicule are coercion tactics and that’s what being used against women here who don’t want to date bi men. It’s sick that people are tying sexual access into valuing someone’s humanity. That’s very degrading to bi men and that’s truly biphobic. You’re sending the message that they can’t be valued and respected as people without sex being in the equation. Are you claiming this isn’t what’s transpiring?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:00 PM
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Most have not though so that accusation is pure speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:55 PM
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Not enough clearly as the birth rates keep dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:54 PM
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No one used the word rape besides you. I won’t back off the rhetoric that people are trying to coerce women into sleeping with/dating people they don’t want to date or sleep with because that’s what being done. Shame and ridicule are coercion tactics and that’s what being used against women here who don’t want to date bi men. It’s sick that people are tying sexual access into valuing someone’s humanity. That’s very degrading to bi men and that’s truly biphobic. You’re sending the message that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:53 PM
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I’m sorry about your family but I’ll continue to advocate for policies that saved mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:50 PM
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It doesn’t mean they’re lying and spreading misinformation. It means they’re just not into it and aren’t going to change their mind. Which is their business. You have one person you can eliminate and just move on from. I don’t pay attention to usernames half the time so Idk if I responded to all your stuff or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:49 PM
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Ah. So these are your true feelings. Your views were not actually born out of concern for the poor uneducated natives. You should’ve just led with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:48 PM
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How is it homophobic to not sleep with someone? How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to not wanting them to have full rights and respect as a human being? When you refuse to sleep with people is it because you hate them and/or want to see them oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:39 PM
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When you tie not allowing sexual/romantic access into bigotry what else is one supposed to conclude. There would be no reason to connect the two if that were not the motivation. Not sleeping with someone doesn’t mean you hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:38 PM
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Those jobs need to get done. They’re usually done by the native population but if there aren’t enough natives to do it why not extend that opportunity to people outside of your country? Also treating people like farm equipment comes when there’s no worker protections, like their immigration status being directly tied to their job, no where for them to report abuse, no help for them if they are being mistreated etc. It makes more sense to allow immigration and focus on fixing those issues and mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:35 PM
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According to the data black women are not preferred by men(not even black men) so I’m still not seeing the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:32 PM
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Yeah it can if it’s an active member that did it. Why did they feel comfortable saying things that on the sub? Why did they feel that sub was a proper outlet for someone like themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:31 PM
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They’re not lying or spreading information. They’re answering the reasons why they don’t date/sleep with bi men. Whether you feel it’s applicable to all bi men or not doesn’t change the fact that those are the reasons why they won’t date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:30 PM
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Sometimes they come to developed countries to also do something similar before moving up the ladder. My mom was packing apples on a farm when she first came to the US before she saved up enough to become a nurse and continually up her credentials. Immigration can be mutually beneficial if the wealthier nation has safety measures in place to protect the immigrants from being exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:29 PM
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He was an active member though not just a random troll who stopped by to be antagonistic. When it’s something like non-members posting cp to get a sub removed that should be examined more carefully and appeals allowed but if it’s an active member posting a murderous manifesto you can’t help but wonder what it is about the sub that made them feel comfortable to share those views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:27 PM
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Society does dislike femininity because it’s also mocked in girls passed what’s deemed “acceptable”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:23 PM
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Who said it’s rape? It’s coercive but it’s not rape. You’re trying to shame people into being into things that turn them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:22 PM
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That’s not racist. If that’s what a man wants to do that’s his business.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:22 PM
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No. That’s his preference. Plenty of men hold that preference and they’re entitled to feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:21 PM
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So you have to date bi men for your support of gay/bi men to be valid lol. So you hate everyone you won’t sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:18 PM
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She acknowledged that she has biases. Biases are Inherent in dating and it doesn’t mean you harbor hatred for the group you don’t prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:17 PM
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She has a point though. Why do so many people tie sexual/romantic attraction into a persons value as a human? You can value, respect and care for someone or a group of people while also not being attracted to them. Not being attracted doesn’t mean you harbor hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:16 PM
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Not being sexually/romantically attracted doesn’t mean you hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:14 PM
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Why would women negate those things when there’s no incentive to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:11 PM
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Many people already do refuse to date women and blacks. That’s their business. If they want to refuse to date bi men too that’s just as valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:10 PM
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So then it’s a win win right? Both groups can avoid each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:07 PM
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Is having kids one of the duties you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:04 PM
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You didn’t address the second point. Their qol being unskilled and uneducated would most likely still be better in a developed country vs a poor one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:59 PM
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They can’t afford to have babies or find men to have them with. So, it’s either automation, immigration or cutting social services for a generation or two of elders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:57 PM
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They’re not qualified to do them as efficiently as men that’s why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:54 PM
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Doesn’t mean people didn’t see it. It also seems nothing is ever truly deleted on the internet. No matter how fast you take it down there’s always someone with a screenshot or screen recording who reposted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:32 PM
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Because they don’t keep to themselves that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:30 PM
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More people know who Michael Jackson is compared to Tom Holland. Does that mean Tom Holland isn’t famous? Similar thing here another topic being better known and more discussed doesn’t negate the fact that The red pill is known and highly discussed. It’s no longer relegated to fringe Reddit subs and out of the way online forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:22 PM
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Idk what swirl forums are or what they have to do with the okcupid data. Anyway the point was men are shallow too and even incels have standards. Men also treat women they view as unattractive horribly. Men are shallow too. They deride women for not doing something they also wouldn’t do. It’s hypocritical. Yet they claim to be more fair, balanced and logical than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:19 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:18 PM
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In terms of marriage prospect yes. Outside of that it exists to maximize how you’re treated by other people. “Low value” men, and women typically treat beautiful women better as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:17 PM
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This has what to do with the fact that men can be and are loved unconditionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:16 PM
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You’re experience on the internet I’m sure. As you’ve said here. ⁠1,000,000 shared experiences of men online!! It’s still 100% false. “Problematic” lol. Tell tale sign you’re chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:15 PM
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Hmm if you say so. The data is also from okcupid and it was just as heavily discussed at the 80/20 thing we were speaking on. Men are shallow too. Their standards aren’t as low as Reddit likes to argue. Looking at their dating preferences and patterns and looking on incel sites shows that. Anyway idk how too explicitly we can discuss race because the comment may be deleted as certain discussions are against sub rules. It does say what I think it does. Women are more open to contacting those they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:13 PM
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The videos wouldn’t be getting as many views and reactions as they do if people didn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:51 PM
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It’s not impossible. There are some men who are loved for who they are. Generally speaking though. Most people aren’t loved for who they are because most peoples love comes with conditions. So if you’re loved by anyone it’s because you’ve met the conditions for their love and they will only continue to love you if you continue to meet those conditions. There are more domestic shelters for women because more women fought for those than men, with male deaths men choose to do riskier jobs than wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:50 PM
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That was definitely true 5-10 years ago. Heck maybe even 2-3 years ago but red pill content made its way to tik tok, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, clubhouse etc and it’s doing numbers. Years ago I remember no one paying attention to it but the men and boys who intended to use it but recently it’s being viewed and discussed more and more by all kinds of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:32 PM
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Interesting how you cut out the part on race. Very telling. As for the incel forums if you find any online somewhere else(as it seems Reddit got rid of all the ones on here) look up threads on volver vs incel or threads asking if they would date certain types of women. You get to see what standards they have from that. Went to look for the study again, women were more generous with their messaging than men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:30 PM
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So can men. So now where do we go from here. The statement is still inaccurate no matter which way you slice it because at the end of the day, most people receive conditional love and for those lucky enough to receive unconditional love gender and age aren’t the reasons why they received it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:29 PM
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Judging from her profile she seems to be from the same demographic as me and if she’s dating men from our demographic they do talk about this stuff irl. Many are very bold and brazen with their beliefs and if they don’t fear repercussions from you they’ll talk about hypergamy, declining quality of western women, what they don’t like about single moms etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:23 PM
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Red pill has made it to tik tok and other social media so at least for gen z and younger millennials they’ll know what he’s talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:19 PM
2

What is ENM?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:13 PM
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They won’t ban divorce because that would backfire on women, they’d just do what men and women are already doing. Avoiding marriage, LTR’s, having kids, and even sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:12 PM
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In the US yeah. Most men and women are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:06 PM
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They get the idea based on looking at how beautiful women are treated vs average and ugly women. Beautiful women get treated the best in many ways and women want those perks so that’s why they want to be beautiful. They know that being beautiful can attract a higher caliber of men and even beyond that a higher caliber of treatment from men who aren’t “high value”. Plus if you’re working class you can leverage your beauty financially if you’re smart. All of that is why women want to be good looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:05 PM
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Women aren’t loved conditionally and children are only loved conditionally if they’re born to 2 mentally stable loving parents. Which unfortunately a lot of children aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:56 PM
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Do a lot of men genuinely believe this because when I’ve suggested friendships and cultivating stronger relationships with family to stave off loneliness and when I’ve seen other Redditors do the same the response seems overwhelmingly negative. The opposing argument is that friends/family aren’t the same as a partner and they can’t fill that spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:55 PM
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Yeah you could use it to substitute friendships, gaming and many other activities. Saying “all” is a bit hyperbolic but you definitely could use VR to substitute for a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:50 PM
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According to those same OLD stats men also message the hottest women and they mostly want certain races of women. Plus in the incel forums they’d have arguments about incel vs volcel because of the standards of some of the guys on there. I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:47 PM
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I can’t speak on the Midwest. I’ve only ever been in coastal states.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:45 PM
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Nope he’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:45 PM
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What you’ve said here is 100% false and shows you have no actual experience or knowledge of women besides manosphere memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:44 PM
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What you’ve said may apply to low class AA people but it doesn’t really fit for groups outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:40 PM
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Getting cat called is common if you live in a big city. Even if you’re ugly but you dress kind of sexy it’ll happen every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:30 PM
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That first paragraph is apex fallacy. Unless you’re hot, you need to do a whole lot more than just “be” as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:25 PM
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It’s relevant to those who want to discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:15 PM
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So in cases where one spouse is objectively better looking, but one is objectively wealthier. Who is dating down? What matters more money or looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:07 PM
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Why is that an issue? You don’t have to read it. It’s very easy to filter out annoying content.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:05 PM
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Yes but it usually if they’ve been friends since childhood and they’re practically family. Or if one or both of them are homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:02 PM
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A lot of those men don’t want the women that they can get lol. If you ever read through some of the incel forums before they were banned, those guys had standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:00 PM
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Reality is them not being able to find what they’re looking for. So they act accordingly and stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:56 PM
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If they have to settle for less then that’s not an ideal relationship. So the “issue” is your former point. They can’t find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:55 PM
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I don’t know what that is. You feeling insulted is your business and responsibility. My views come from my own experiences and those of men who I trust who have lived those experiences. They’re more credible than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:48 PM
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It really is. When you compare the different attractiveness levels of gay men you see the hierarchy looks different but there’s still a hierarchy and the gap between the different “tiers” of people is not very different from straight dating. Plus it was undeniably obvious. Before the dating apps decided to become more “inclusive”, you see a lot of guys with “no fats, no fems”, or explicitly excluding certain races in their bios. There’s definitely a steep hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:20 PM
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I was creeping on cheating dudes. I’ve been tasked by a couple friends before to basically catfish and catch their boyfriends when they suspect them. It’s still very, very steep. I’d even argue that the amount of attention attractive gay men get is more than attractive women. I’ve also had friends who got bored with swiping who asked me to do it for them because I was there lol. Who says I’m straight? 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:49 AM
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You don’t have to be a man to be on Grindr, scruff or others. That’s the main demographic but you can make an account even if you’re outside of that. Plus a couple of my friends have had me swipe for them. I’m comparing apples to apples. When you compare the experience of the hottest gay men to all other men vs women and men in straight dating you see it’s the same. The way hot gay men get treated is leaps and bounds above how other gay men get treated. That’s what I’m comparing. I’m not saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:27 AM
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We’re comparing apples to apples here. The gap between hot men and average to ugly men falls along a similar gradient to women vs men in straight dating. There’s more attention given all around in gay dating so it bumps up the overall. The presence of lookism is similar though. The most attractive people are at the top and the amount and quality of attention they get is Leagues above average and unattractive people. The difference in the study is not as big as one would assume given the explanat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:16 AM
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It is your opinion and I’ve frequented them enough to know that there is a hierarchy. Young hot men are ok the top and the attention they receive is leagues above what average and unattractive men receive. In that regard it’s like tinder. They’re both hierarchical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:07 AM
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So attractive men don’t get more attention than unattractive and average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:05 AM
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You’re entitled to your opinion. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:21 AM
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If you’ve ever compared the Grindr of an attractive man vs an unattractive man you’ll see it’s pretty similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:16 AM
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It will. There’s a hierarchy on Grindr just like there is on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:06 PM
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That’s already a thing. People will “talk” or “hang out” to avoid the formalities and expectations that come with an actual date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:05 PM
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Men are not financially responsible for abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:03 PM
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Yeah you’re correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:26 AM
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Just a little, mixed race/biracial women are the most popular in the UK and Asian men are a bit more desired in the UK than the US. The other groups have relatively the same desirability in the US and UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:25 AM
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If you’re an Asian man or a black woman you will struggle the most in dating. If you are a white man or Asian woman you will have the easiest time dating. This is from US dating data. It’s a little different in the UK
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:29 PM
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It doesn’t. Age affects genetics Geriatric pregnancy is a thing and it’s literally a medical term for women having kids at an advanced age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:57 AM
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I’d rather that than a mud hut tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:56 AM
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Hilarity like the poor conditions in most African nations
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:36 AM
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It is age related. As the scientists found. You can deny it all you’d like but they found a correlation between dna damage in sperm and a mans age. You’re assuming that the correlation is because the men who have kids at an advanced age have bad genes but the research doesn’t show that. It is how it works sweetie. If one action has a higher likelihood of producing a result than another. You’ll take into consideration if you want to avoid that result. That last bit is you reaching to defend geria…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:35 AM
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Negligible: so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering; insignificant. “It is thought that accumulation of chromosomal aberrations and mutations during the maturation of male germ cells are responsible for increasing risks of certain conditions with advancing paternal age. The amount of DNA damage in sperm of men aged 36–57 is three times that of men <35 years.8 There is a recent body of literature discussing the possible effects on reproductive outcomes, which has been summarised by…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:12 AM
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Differences are not negligible. Seems you haven’t read them and you’re accusing me of that. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/10/older-fathers-associated-with-increased-birth-risks.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566050/ Mick Jagger having a child as an old man doesn’t add or detract anything from the conversation. This grandma gave birth to her grandchild. Yet we still understand that it’s not the best decision for women older than 40 to have kids even if they’re us…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:54 AM
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We disagreed on whether or not we’d be happy and whether or not it’s even an ultimatum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:51 AM
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You make assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:50 AM
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That is what they say sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:39 AM
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If you’re trying to get married quickly her way is best because it specifically filters for marriage minded men. She’s avoiding even putting herself in emotionally vulnerable situations with men who aren’t prioritizing marriage. Doing it other ways can lead to marriage as well but it would take longer. So to break it down. Her way results in dating only within a pool of marriage minded men, so she’d only have those men as options to fall in love with. Doing it other ways you’d fall in love with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:37 AM
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Well, the next generation can just refuse to put money in the bag. Then those who came before them can deal with the results of their poor choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:28 AM
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As I said I disagree with your point. There is not to be unhappy about like I said before. She’s simply communicating her wants and needs. If he’s on the same page great they’ll be a thriving couple. If not they both can amicably move on and find people that are compatible with them. A man will marry a woman he wants to. You can not “make” men do anything. People only do what they want to do. So if a woman wants marriage and she is with a man who doesn’t want to marry her, the only thing she can…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:27 AM
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That’s still going to be a strain on them to maintain. Providing for a single adult vs a providing for a child is a big difference. Especially if you’re intending to provide for that child so that they can develop the skills to be a self-sufficient adult who at least has all their needs met(food/water, shelter, and proper healthcare)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:23 AM
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Even though it’s not exactly the same. “Don’t anticipate the command” something I was told in boot camp that kind of fits here. Sometimes it’s better to wait and see what’s said before responding with/to what you think will be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:22 AM
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No, what is there to be unhappy about? We either be compatible and happy or we’d accept that we’re not a right match and amicably move on. No need to be sad and out of sorts over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:20 AM
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If the society was meant to be, it will recover even after a period of unrest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:19 AM
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It is true. Geriatric sperm is no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:19 AM
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The poor and/or single parents. It’s not always synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:15 AM
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He can love me and accept that’s who I am and still move on. He can do so because he also loves himself and realizes he has certain sexual needs that would result in him being deeply unsatisfied and unfulfilled if they remain unmet. I wouldn’t be unhappy because even if I loved him and he loved me. We’d come to an understanding that we are not right for each other. We’d be fond of what we had but we’d move on and find other people. He’s free to want what he wants and leave the relationship to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:14 AM
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How are they supposed to afford those? What if the other parent doesn’t want to be really involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:10 AM
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Believe what you want. Growing up in a poor neighborhood and now going back as an adult working with underprivileged youth, sex Ed misconceptions always amaze me. The other day I had a conversation with a man a bit older than me(US citizen born and raised) who didn’t know that condoms don’t protect against all stds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:08 AM
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Then they’ll learn a hard lesson like people in countries without the social safety nets do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:06 AM
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If that’s something he really wants yeah. Sexual compatibility is very important. If I don’t want to do it and he really wants/needs it then we just go our separate ways and move on like mature adults. We can appreciate what once was, and move on to find compatible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:05 AM
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Who is going to take care of your kids while you’re at work if you don’t have a partner there to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:02 AM
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A lot of them also believe the pull out method works, they don’t know you can get pregnant from pre-cum, the money they could be spending on condoms they need to put towards bills, foods, other needs or desires etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:54 AM
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The west doesn’t want to be like Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:49 AM
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They should be told to start saving for retirement now and shown how to do so. That way there won’t be so much of an economic strain in the transitional phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:47 AM
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That she’s insatiable when she’s into a man but very frigid when she doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:36 AM
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Yeah, he could love me but also know that he has certain boundaries/desires etc that he won’t let me walk over. That’s what that sounds like to me. Someone who loves their partner, but they also love themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:16 AM
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Yeah and I don’t agree with it. A desire for marriage can be born out of genuine intentions. It’s not leverage either.You can love someone but understand that you don’t want the same things in life, you don’t have the same goals and you’re not going to walk the same path. If you’re in a situation like that and both sides are firm in their desires and beliefs then the only thing left to do is appreciate what you had and then move on so you can each find compatible partners who you can love and wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:09 AM
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You can be in love with someone and still want to marry them. It lets you legally become family with the same last name and privileges that come with that in one step vs multiple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:54 AM
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It’s not. It’s like saying having food you can’t eat is better than having no food. In the end they result in the same thing so the “benefit” is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:14 AM
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You were the one advocating for geriatric sperm. Ny only point was men have a window too if they want to have kids with the best chance of being healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:09 AM
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When did I say it would?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:09 AM
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It’s not. If you’re in a committed relationship or you’re not into sex is people wanting to sleep with you a tangible benefit? Someone wanting to use you as a human flesh light is not valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:08 AM
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Yeah all the answers given don’t really make sense because there are other animals that fit the bill just as well if not better than cats, but I thank you guys for trying anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:24 PM
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Women also go for hamsters, rabbits etc as well. So this still doesn’t explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:21 PM
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It does. We both know it’s true. Sorry to ruin your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:20 PM
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I never saw that and I’ll trust scientists over a Reddit rando. Geriatric sperm is no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:20 PM
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So are hamsters and guinea pigs so that doesn’t really explain why it’s cats specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:19 PM
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If you’re extremely beautiful sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:17 PM
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There’s no one there sigma. . . Maybe you should see a specialist to talk about your hallucinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:15 PM
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If they’re using sperm they froze when they were young maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:30 PM
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They’re not. Aged sperm is linked to some mental health risks for the baby. Even when controlling for age of the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:30 PM
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It’s a misunderstanding. In 2017 his friend got served with divorce papers and the way Rollo addressed it made it seem like he’s the one who got served papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:29 PM
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Why is it always cats? When dogs, rabbits etc are also very popular pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:26 PM
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They have primitive versions of that now. Yet they’re not all that popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:24 PM
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