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| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itVery blue pilled advice. If your a man who does not know any better. If your a short or unattractive man. Do not follow this advice. She's a woman and does not know male dating at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWell.i don't expect anything of women. I'm not going to continue this if you keep strawmannin me. And I disagree with that notion. Some men are just too short or too unattractive. It's best to go game in arena they can win. And not settle either. Average men and down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:30 PM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with it4b was all over social media and even reddit when Trump won. They could have just did it silently. I reckon most of those women lasted only a week though. Point is they were loud. They could have been silent like your saying PPD should do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itNothing wrong with more better. Even if a bit. Plus it was more so a huge benefit for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itNo average men approaching them. For example of that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itCan't improve height. Gotta go where the hight is average is where the man is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:23 PM |
| 4 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itThe goal. Of this posts wasn't to get women to care. We already know how they do. I was giving a reason why everyone should be fore this movement. But at the end of the day people going to do what they want. These men could stop these women in dating apps for example. A woman would be fine getting none until that tall attractive man swipes right. But the flurry of average men could make it so much harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itHow is it predatory to go where you can be desired like Chad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:15 PM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWhere did I seek approval. I fear a reading issue or lack of reading | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itBoth. But he has a better chance for both in other countries | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:14 PM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itCan you name any group that isn't loud? 4B did the same shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itMore so a clear path. The average men get other women. The average women get the small percentage of of men their attracted to or stay alone. Can't explain this any simpler | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:12 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIf everyone did this this sub wouldn't exist. Duh. But people. Like to debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:10 PM |
| 4 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itOperating off the fact that ugly women also desire short ugly men. They still have options and it's not these men. I usually don't talk about PPBs until I literally seen it with my own two eyes recently. I genually believe of most average men give it a chance they can find a beautiful women somewhere else and be desired. No height problems or unattractive problems for the most part. Not everyone is a western woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWomen admit themselves that they are attracted to a small percentage of men. And you seem to think that any women from a country with a lower gdp is a groveling. Sneaky gold digger to get to the west. Certainly says alot about you. Average men want to be desired | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:04 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWestern women are just as transactional?? Why do you believe they aren't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itI mean. They should. Tbh. A direct line to the small percentage of men their attracted to or happiness in singledom. Average men would stop approaching. Or whatever else they complain about. Win-win-win | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 08:02 PM |
| 9 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itYou was angry? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itBoth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:48 PM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWhat's thi difference from western women who date up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:47 PM |
| 0 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWhat's unequal? And how does it differ from what women ask from men in western countries? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:45 PM |
| 0 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWell no. It's dumb to go to other countries and flaunt wealth. That's not even a PPB thing. That's something everyone should know. Short men could... Like theoretically go to Mexico. Shorter men. Plus his finances. Women don't care about his height. Basically almost becomes a Chad out there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itThis is operating off the face that all. Men will go to the same countries. Most countries on earth have more women than men. Because men be dyin alot. Again I've said this. Women will go for their men first. Because of culture. And stuff. And then some will try a foriener. Not every country on earth is women who are don't desire average men. Many countries are. And will happily take an average man. Whether that's theirs or foreigners. Especially short/unattractive men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:41 PM |
| -1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIt's a debate sub. Inviting those who disagree. Duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:37 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itYea... Ok... I think this is just statistical anomalies... And a little bit of a fantasy wishing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:35 PM |
| 6 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itAgain women caused the shift. If average men aren't attractive and can't get desire like Chad. The what are they supposed to to do? Settle? Betta bux? Plus women always go for their men first before even lookin at a foreigner. All wins | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:34 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWestern men still pay for most of dates and first dates. They still spend more in a relationship. What's the difference? And acting like these women are all destitute poor gold digging women is going down a very racist path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itDamn. I didn't know all Filipino women are just desperate women looking to get out of their depraved and terrible life. Do you hear how you sound? At the end of the day. They want money yall want money. The difference is average men can go so much farther. Especially a short man and/or unattractive man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:31 PM |
| 4 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itDidn't know you speak for all Filipino women. Actually I've been to te passport bros subredit it was some bald short guys celebrating his gf of many years. And is a model or something. But personal experience for personal experience. But I do genually think this is a good decision for most average men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:28 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWhen did I say this? Quote? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:25 PM |
| 11 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itSuddenly all women are for this. Well great. Can you name me a posts on PPD that isn't a personal opinion that doesn't need anyone's approval? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:25 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIs like like... She's going to kill him? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:23 PM |
| 0 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itMore so why would anyone disagree with it. It's the optimal choice because of women's standards. Yet for some reason there is still push back. Lol. You can literally say that for ALL the post on PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:23 PM |
| -2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itMy experience was differentfrom what I seen. I guess I'm e believer l.... Obviously you have to be cautious at all times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:21 PM |
| -1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWasn't the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itMeh. Still fun to have discussions. Don't really see how anyone would be against this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itI really dont talk about PPBs because I don't really know about them enough. I made a post a bout this because I travel for my businesses and yesterday I just literally seen it with my own two eyes. I guess I'm a believer now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWomen Will always go for the men I love their country first so those men won't lose out on anything. Plus they can also have the option to go to other countries where they are desired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:16 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itI have two friends that are PPBs and they never heard this term being used by the women in other countries. One recently married. The and other is planning to be engaged to a Russian woman. I they flip flop back between here and her country staying there and here for most months (he's the one that surprised me tbh. He's 5'5 and the women hes with is gorgeous. I couldn't fucking believe it) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:14 PM |
| 9 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itNo? If anything women tend to stick with their country of men. So they aren't really missing out on anything. Or those average men in other countries can go to other countries as well for better opportunities. . The only people who dont get any one is average women back home if lots of men treated this as a actual good way. Since women didn't desire these men and only a small group of men and will stay single if they don't get that then they won't lose much either. Literally everyone wins | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:10 PM |
| 0 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itNobody has to agree with any of the post on PDD. Literally this is where we come to to talk about these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWhat's the difference with western women? I say and if men are going to spend money either way. Why not do it with a package that's more attractive than him? Because if I'm still not mistaken. Men still pay for overwhelming majority of dates. Men still pay almost all first dates. Most men still are are leading earners in their homes with women. Whats the difference between yall and them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:03 PM |
| 8 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itSo the then you agree? I was just saying that everyone should be for this. Considering standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 07:00 PM |
| 8 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itThis is a debate sub reddit lol. You can say this bout any topic that's on here. Literally go to any of the posts or recent post on here and- "Why do you so badly need other people to agree with your life choices though?" Fits every single one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:59 PM |
| 9 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWomen made the market shift becaeof their standards. Men are just adjusting. Or at least average men have too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:58 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itNever even implied this. If you read the posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itIj just thought that we'd finally agree on something lol. Everyone should agree with this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itSo... It make sense to go where they csn be desired? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:38 PM |
| 5 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itEthical? What's unethical about going somewhere you could be desired if average women aren't desiring average men? Should they stay there and... Do nothing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:03 PM |
| -3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itWhere is it desperate. And what's the difference from this topic and every other topic men and women talk about it here? And who said anything about announcing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:02 PM |
| 3 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itI'm. Never said anyone was stopping anyone. I was arguing that everyone should be pro this movements considering most men can't get genuine desire from average women. As said from women here. Average men nor average women are to blame. It's just that women are holding out for a small group of men or happily single. Average men/below average men could go somewhere where they have a chances at beautiful women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with itGood thing the topic wasn't about anyone stopping anyone. And literally most posts on PPD is tired and and repeated topics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:58 PM |
| 4 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.OK lol. But it's not wrong either. You as a attractive woman. How could you even begin to understand what these men face? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:21 PM |
| 6 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted."I’m an attractive woman" This told me everything I needed to know about why you view things the way that you do. You have the dating market privilege of being a woman. But also a attractive woman. OF Course you were never low on options. You have no experience or a stake to hold in what the dating lives of average men are. Much much less short or unattractive men. Check your privilege | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 05:16 PM |
| 8 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.Obviously we're not talking about people as in.. Being people. Nobody is more or less than the other. But pretending the dating market isn't in tiers or a rank is just delusion. Why are tall attractive men able to treat any woman any kind of way and still have most women in their palm? Why are short men much much less desired regardless of how good they treat women? Different teirs. Or rank. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 04:45 PM |
| 11 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.Yea. Doesn't matter. Most unselected men are not chosen or lustedbafter because they are short and/or unattractive. Not because of what they said. Lots or men are facing being incels for something out their control. They are stuck between being settled for with a ex Chad chaser or being an incel. . And blaming it on them is top teir gas lighting. And it's not fair to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 04:32 PM |
| 15 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted."then don't date those women" It's so funny how you can tell from responses how privileged a group is based on their responses. Men are working off very very limited options. So your basiclly telling men just be single. We're not women we can't bounce around from option to option If it's not lust. Then she settled for me. And I think most men don't want to be settled for. Men don't want the watered down version of desire that she likely gave to men of her past. Women have options for sex and rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 04:19 PM |
| 20 | If a man would actually take any woman, he’d be very wanted.This is operating off the assumption that the lower teir women dont also have high standards due to social media and dating apps. Women themselves admit that they only find a small percentage of men attractive. Its not any different with average women or below average women due to their abundance of options "lts no all the same percentage of men" I'd love to see a group that seeks out short or unattractive men. It's certainly the same men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 03:46 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.and what exactly is nuianced? Is not caring about my opinion also going to be on at 11? since it was so obvious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:21 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.A paragraph got deleted, my point was that if a woman is preaching to yuou about any of these things, you are not desirablet to her. which goes with your point. also the "More at 11" is so played out and corny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:09 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.that is correct, but that wasnt the point, which you seem to be loosing sight of. that was not is what is being debated here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:07 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.You misunderstood, and even with your misunderstanding, that wasnt even the topic. this is about value, women have an abundant of attention from avergae men, so average men are getting all the messages and hate because women don't value them as a tall attractive man or a man in a high position, meaning if a woman i preaching to you about this. she doesnt value you as anyone desirable. it as in paragraph for some reason that was deleted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:01 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.because i do not care about your personal experiences as it does nothing for pushing the debate forward. Nobody int he world can argue personal experiences. saying it happened to you, or even your friends or family doesnt mean anything as you are all molecules in the vastness of the human population. but genrally speaking, men ignore unattractive women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:58 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.we see lots of things on the internet and most of it is based on algorithm. what your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:55 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.pay gap, abuse statistics, safety, ect ect all the stuff women routinely bring up. Women dont bring these up in the face of tall attractive men, or men in high positions of power, socially or economical politically ect. and if she is preaching to you about any of this, she doesnt find you as anywhere near desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:51 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.you didnt agre ein another thread, nobody is talking, to unattractive women, you clicking on a sub talking about these things is very much different, than m,en preaching to you specifically. if a women is preaching to you about safety, pay gap, ect ect she doent find you attractive. also, debate doesnt equal preaching, but other than that we agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:47 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.your in a debate subreddit where we talking about these things? like lol, but men in general arent talking to unnatractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:45 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.yea, i highlighted unattractive women- men value differently like women do, that part is correct, but my point about unselected men getting preached to vs unattractive women getting preached to. that doesnt happen to unnatractive women as men generally arent talking to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:43 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.quotye me where i said otherwise? thsi wasnt about quantifying who has relationships, it was about value attention, and if a woman is preaching to you about any of this, she likely doesnt find your attention as particularly valuable, nor you desirable, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:41 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.f I understand this correctly, you’re just mad cause you can’t get away with whatever you want cause you have no social leverage. All the whining in the world won’t change that. Women have been told from a young age that pretty girls get treated better. Sorry no one told you that, but now ya know. Which proves my posts. if a woman is preaching to a man about safety, she likely finds his attention not valuable. they wont do that to a tall attractive man they wouldnt want to lose, nor anyone in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:39 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.can you quote men where i said men dont do this? i believe this is a faliure of comprehension or reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:37 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.can you quote me where i said they didnt? i said that they getting preached at because women dont care as much to lose them, as they would a tall attractive man. this was about value, not how many relationships. lets keep up. and keep the strawmans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:36 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.i can see a paragrpaph is missing from my posts. but it seems you agree. The men that are getting preached to are likely low on womans value. was my point, the last paragrahp was missing. however i wouldnt say men are preaching to anyone really, just in generall. but they definitely arent talking to unattractive women at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:32 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.well...yea...did i ever say anything that went against this? or even the men here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:26 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.something said in general isnt something said to anyone specifically, as like something on tiktok or the news, are not talking to anyone personally nobody is preaching to unnatractive women generally, men probably arent evenn talking to them passing by, but then again most people arent, hard to belieave these women are getting alked to about any of these | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:25 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.and this is base off of. anecdotal experiences or any stats? or just snother thing thats parroted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:22 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.i dont need to be a unattractive women to know thay they are ignored. just like a woman doesnt have to be an incel to know. incels do not have anyone interested. and i do nopt care about your experience as one unattractive woman, men arent speaking to yall in general, most people arent even speaking to each other walking by, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:21 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.Women are not just “preaching at men who criticize women.”The whole point is that women are very aware of who they can talk to a certain way and who they can not. They do not talk to attractive men the same way they talk to unattractive men. They do not talk to powerful men the same way they talk to powerless men. They do not talk to men they want the same way they talk to men they dont want. If this was really just about “shut your mouth and everyone will ignore you,” then a lot of completely q… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:18 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.avergae men are only a step up from unselected men. and women have abundant of these men, so in this context they are similar to unselected men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:17 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.unattractive women are ignored. just because men say it in general. doesnt mean it was said to unattractive women specifically. They are not "constantly" preched to about mens problems, other groups perhaps, but not them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:12 PM |
| 5 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵all roads lead to hypergamy, you just have to ask the right questions, and eventually theyll say it themselves, but the real question is which side of hypergamy are you on? If your on one side, im very sorry, if your on the other, their all in your hands, every single one, enjoy enjoy not for just yourself, but the rest of us who couldn't get there genetically, and perhaps, share tales of when you had all of them in your palm, absolute desire. well sit by the campfire, laugh and smile, and live … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:11 PM |
| 5 | Most men are not special enough to be having a selfish nasty attitude.it may or may not be his problem, we dont knopw until he see the chats is what im saying, women have an abundant of options on dating apps. are they half assed responding to him? or blatantly disinterested? "Chatted" is doing alot of the lifting here. if you just want me to acknowledge that theres a very small group of unselected men that mess it up for themsleves. then fine yes. but i believe most are just unselected for physical reasons. and women do not want to be with someone they are not at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 03:58 PM |
| 5 | Most men are not special enough to be having a selfish nasty attitude.We dont KNOW if hes messing up his chances. weve never seen that chats. Him matching with a woman, and her not saying anything, Counts as a match, him owning 33 snake is weird, but if its something he likes, why does he have to give up something he likes for women? Women do NOT do the same. Nobody is saying NO men mess it up for themselves, But acting like this is any significant amount of unselected men is just false, Unselected men tend to be short, and/or unnatractive. there is no fixing face… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 03:38 PM |
| 13 | Most men are not special enough to be having a selfish nasty attitude.You and these tiktoks and specific individuals, and also using them as representative for every unsecessful man. You also seem to forget that women have a MASSIVE amount of options on dating apps, what percentage of these 2000 chats, out of 2 million swipes btw was just keeping him on the back burner? when a taller, more attractive man is possibly a couple more swipes away? How many are for simply validation? unless we see these chats, nobody knows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 15 | Most men are not special enough to be having a selfish nasty attitude.You really, really dont like unselected men, you dont like the fact they can complain, and their complaints are valid. you dont like they fact they can say how bad it is for them, you dont like they fact they are have any sort of publicity or is seen. you dont like the fact they exist. You KEEP moralizing unsuccessful mens inability to be selected. Womens selection of men is AMORAL. nice personality traits do not get women wet. women here say ALL the time, that niceness doesnt equal attraction, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 3 | Hypothetical Women uprising?Im just going to say it. Its not that they wont, its just that they simply cant. Women never, ever TOOK power. It was always marching, complaining. signs ect. They need a significant amount of men on their side for anything to change, The first wave of Feminism was never going to work with just women, they needed men for it to go anywhere. and it was a generational success. Or look at kamala harris, It shows that if you think just pandering to women only will get you anywhere its not going to wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:45 PM |
| 5 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,Kill all men? female baby or abortion? hoping men die in a war? you never heard of these before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:22 PM |
| -2 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?so...both these men did sexual harassment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 06:50 PM |
| -2 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?where tf did the unattractive men do sexual harrasment? or rape?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?yea ok..lol. tone down on the chad worshiping, we get it women like chad and hes the best person. we know this. your story is more believable sure byt still questionable. But OPs was blatantly fake, it somehow hit every sterrotype and talking point. if a man made some story like this people wouldnt even consider this to be real. like the part i quotes in my posts up top. like come on. but sure you can believe its real all you want. that doesnt mean i will. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 06:04 PM |
| 20 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?This is soo fake, lol. come on people The "manosphere talking points" He just told you any man who lack it is struggling. him saying its like food and water. and asll this other BS. She crafted the perfect villain. a boogey man that somehow hit every "bad" talking point and stereotype. Ive been trying to tell you guys the women on this sub reddit, is as big as the losers as they claim the men here are He told me that he knows that as a woman, I have a strong propensity to hypergamy but that if I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:57 PM |
| 6 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,exacty they do. but extreme feminist doesnt represent the whole group. but for some reasons incels do. we dont do it for race, color, income, ect ect. so why are we doing it for incels? or is it just a matter of whos on the "right" side of the political agenda or context? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:44 PM |
| 9 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,no lol. its just that they arent saying anything about victims of slaughter. they are saying other shit that are just as bad. you never heard of kill all men, or..if its a girl or an abortion? are those new things to you? and you still hevnt responded to my other point. lol. nowhere near good faith lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:41 PM |
| 5 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,thats just a comprehension issue. i never made an excuse for this. im just saying one person doesnt represent the whole of a group. womens groups have said countless bad shit online, and yet for some reason it doesnt apply. we have to have consistency. because it allows people to have rules for one narrative anc different ones for another. i cannot comprehend this for you, ya gotta keep up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,Im talking about the point of these men apparently being in the public eyes, and Nobody would have known they existed. when you just admitted to going specifically to their spaces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:36 PM |
| 8 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,these TWO MEN are not a REPRESENTATIVE of every incel. who decided that? They do not have the same problems, nor are the same reasons for being an incel. this is insane | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:34 PM |
| 10 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,like i said, just posts, that made women feel bad and go against the narrative. never any avocating for anything criminal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:28 PM |
| 9 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,Looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame is not women’s fault nor is that an excuse for horrible behavior. that was not the context of that comment and you willingly cut it off to only reply to that part. that was a reply to you saying "So why would women want a man who acts like an unhinged woman? Hell, those women are less unhinged than incels." if women were irrelevant as per your comment why are you bringing them up? Present a female post laughing at victims of a slaughter and feminists laug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:07 PM |
| 7 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,so that whole thing about these men being in the "public eye" You willingly go to their spaces. and then you gave me that bit about how they wouldnt have ever been noticed for andrew tate blah blah. but your have been seeking their spaces That makes the that public eye thing shaky now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:59 PM |
| 6 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,what do these men have to do with any other incel other than being an incel? you often bring these men up as if they are some representative for every incel out there physcially and mentally. are YOU attracted to these men and just think every incel is just like these men? what is the purpose of highlighting these two men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:54 PM |
| 6 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,ok? the post i can bring up have other women agreeing with it too?? do yall think there is no woman that can go this low or something?? and nobody in these spaces ciondemmn them for it either. So why would women want a man who acts like an unhinged woman? Hell, those women are less unhinged than incels. i said these men are undesirable anyway regardless of what they say. but in another comment to me here you said Are guys looking for praise for reaching the bare minimum of adult behavior? Why is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:48 PM |
| 13 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,go ahead and do it. I never advocated for making women do anything against their will. nor forcing anyone to do anything. or any crime. what i say makes women uncomfortable, but only because im debating topics that go against the narrative, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:41 PM |
| 6 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,Im so confused at the point of this posts. Its NOT self inflicted. No man chooses to be an incel. They are just unlucky to be one. ALL women have physical standards, then men are likely to short or too ugly or both. how do you even know what percentage of andrew tate fans are incels? what proof do you have of that? Theres alot of them that hate andrew tate Again they are within their right to complain, anywhere they want. yea some may say wild stuff. but this is the internet. everyone says wild … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:38 PM |
| 18 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,this is what this incel said, I can bring up alot of crazy shit women said, or feminist, or even the 4b. am i allowed to say that those women represent the whole group or are we picking and choosing when this rule apply depending on how we individually feel about each group? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:29 PM |
| 10 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,not complaining is not going to suddenly make them desirable. The complaining came because they are undesirable. Women physical standards is why these men cant. what does it matter what these men say or do in their own talking spaces. even though i never seen them talk about anything such as unalivers but about how its just all unfair. They likely arent going to reproduce, they are barred from, sex and relationships. what is the point of this post? im not getting it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:18 PM |
| 55 | Most people don’t want to be around someone with a victim complex,"Not manly" is just another attempt at dismissal. everyone complains, the reason why its a problem when men do it is because women, society do not see men as humans. basically if your not working, providing, taking everything, and taking all the blame, go sit somewhere where you cant be seen and dont say anything. Womens whole thing about not being seen as humans is the most blatant irony, and projection. Incels for example. They dont want incels to be even talking in their own spaces. look at h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenno...its really not, its just deeper into it. From body count to other suxual things she done to validate her desire for him. but its better to be safe than sorry, when she wants a blast from the bast 25 years into the marriage with the chad pool boy. He may lose some women sure. but considering the trade off is guarantee repellant from ex chad chasers, then id say its well worth it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womeni was using it as a example. but that too is another indicator of wether she desires you or if you just a beta bux. if she made you wait for 6 dates and you paid all of it. and she only made the other dude wait until they got to the car. if she did all this wild stuff with him, and not you? thats a HARD sign that he needs to move on.if your not getting chad like enthusiasm and experiences with her, she doesnt desire you as men from her past. and if she doesnt "feel" like its your business when y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenYou dont even know this. women who arent ashamed of things usually dont mind or proudly say it. Women have no problems admitting they have been married for 20 years, or 3 degrees, or volunteering. because its something they are proud of. but if these things were hypothetically was a shameful things they wouldn admit to it so easily. thats what body count is. or the difference between why she had sex with this man immediately and another after 6 dates on his dollar. Plus you can have a method of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womenperhaps, but its a safenet from the type of women i just described. And...were adults. if any woman doesnt want to answer. thats fine. like the body count stuff. if she didnt felt like its any of my business. thats fine. im just going to assume hers is high. and move on. even if she didnt. the guys around me do that as well. but thats just my experience Most men are already dealing with low desire from women, which is why they are so proactive. but it doesnt make sense to be so proactive and set… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:03 PM |
| 0 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality womeni mean....well men do have to know they are getting genuine desire and getting any post chad want to settle down women. men have procedures like women have procedures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:51 PM |
| 3 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextThen you agree with my posts then, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 01:25 PM |
| -7 | Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy.If thats what they want, then so? Id say its equal considering how the dating market is for men, Men spend up to 4,000 to 15,000 dollars a year in a relationship, Women make men pay for dates, Women are selective for sex, Women have an abundant of options, Forcing men to compete to not be an incel, women make men approach, i could go on and on. with everything men have to do, to get access. its only fair. all this aint just excusive to red pill men, alot of men have want alot of these qualities,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextagain...he just doesnt care. he isnt obligated to care. especially if he barred from experiences. yall are not owed his effort, vote or anything. him not caring is not voting for or against. he just doesnt care. yall are not entitled to any of this anymore he is entitled to any woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:13 PM |
| 10 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextif you care about looks, your shallow thats for man or woman. everyone does. nuance doesnt work here. "bad" doesnt deter women. like being short does. which why you used bad instead of short. and thats basically your whole posts. and you didnt even respond to anything to the comment you responded to. your going on some tanegent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 06:00 PM |
| 7 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextApparenntly a short fat guy, complaining that his match...a short fat woman, is getting railed by chad. is entitlement. because he though it was reasonable she was in his range. thats what she finds that man more desirable why would she date some guy who determined that woman was his looksmatch. Well thanks to admitting hypergamy at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 05:55 PM |
| 4 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextshallow isnt a moral judgement, its just viewd negatively, if you care about looks your shallow. the rest of your posts, is either strawmaning. were debating is it moral or not. My OP never assigned blame. so were done here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 05:22 PM |
| 3 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwhat does it matter if someone HERE or THERE said it. do a few individuals represent a whole group? What does rich have to do with slavery? or sun burn with black people?? or a fucking bad eye with NASA? thats a false equivalence.. if a man isnt getting what he wants with women, he doesnt have to care about their causes and isnt wrong. they arent entitled to his care. Also NOBODY said you have to not care. the point is that its optional. just because you do doesnt mean someone else has too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 05:05 PM |
| 12 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwomen care about looks, its way more than just not accepting mediocre men, women and men are shallow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:50 PM |
| 13 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextbecause its moralizing it. if attraction and dating is amoral. then whatever he said dont matter. as his taller and attractive counterpart saying the same thing isnt struggling. its not what he said, its his looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:45 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Context"someone" said it so its just a representative of the group? can you name me any other group that doesn't have the more extreme people? or does this only apply to a group you dont view favorably? this is just gult by association, because women, femisim, femcels, have said equally worse shit. but no, if men arent sucessful with women, they do not have to continue to care about womens rights, and justified. as nobody owes anyone anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:41 PM |
| 4 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwell then we agree to disagree. apparently every struggling mans dating life is solved by being likable, according to blue pillars. were done here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:32 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextIm only seing m,en say they cant get their looks match because they are getting piped by chad, im confident that unselected men know women above them are not lowering anything. Other than that the other examples werent even entitlement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:30 PM |
| 5 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contexti have to mention that, because your trying to add nuance where there cant be. being likable doesnt change physical attractiveness. your just likable. as theyr are good people who are likeable that are single all the time, if your a short unnatractive man, thats it. thats were your screwed up. not because of social skills. which it brings back to my posts about attraction being amoral tall attractive men is best to mention in alot of these discussions because it provides a undeniable bar that wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:20 PM |
| 8 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextlike all people it comes after all the physical requirements are met, women are no stranger to this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:14 PM |
| 3 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwere not debating your personal experiences, and i have been trying to move away from that. because its no use too. People dont lose attraction to people because of said thngs, they just dont want to be with said people because they did or do said things. not because they arent attracted anymore. Height and looks arent the only, but its the main things that make a man attractive. no amount of personality, social skills, will make a short unattractive man, attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:09 PM |
| 11 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Context"Women date assholes" isnt even a moral judgement. its a obervation that women are uncomfortbale with men saying so they have a problem with is. all of these is just proof that all women dont mind terrible men. if they are tall and attractive. you see women fighting this way more than en are. otherwise. its all true. Women ARE shallow. his conclusion is CORRECT. The problem isnt him. He just didnt get the right genes. Women Attraction ISNT moral. If his colcusions ARE correct. what exactly is th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:04 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextnone of it is moral. im saying him hating women is not why hes unsuccessful. because plenty of men hate women and have multiple women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:59 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextHe isnt obligated to care about women rights. and him ignoring or not caring is not him making his problems everyone elses. if he doesnt care about womens rights, because he isnt getting laid then who is he causing a problem for? and why are women entitled to him caring? mind you andrew tate said worse stuff. and he has alot of children and wives. seems like not caring about women rights and being successful with women arent correlated he just want tall or good looking enough, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 5 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextnever said they were all single. your mentioning a small fringe group of women that like short men as if they are even remotely a significanmt minority. If attraction was about being likable. or not likable. all good short men would be attractive to everyone. but thats not whats happening. a woman attracted to short men is going to be attracted to short men rgardless if they are likable or not. just like women are attracted to tall attractive men regardless if their likable or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:52 PM |
| 5 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextok...what dooes this prove? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:46 PM |
| 8 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextWill he lose some women? of course. he is still a very much selected man just like the attractive man in your example. is stil very much a very much sought after man your still moralizing attraction. everything you just mentioned. these men have no trouble getting women. matter of fact over half of men in prison has children. if its amoral, then what someonme says or does is not the reason they weren't selected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:45 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contexti wouldnt be with her because of her kicking puppies, not because i stopped being attracted to her. women dont loose attraction to tall attractive men if they beat women, they are still arr-acted, they just dont want the hell beaten out of them. If ALL tall attractive men suddenly started beating women. that doesnt stop women from being attracted to tall and attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:40 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextYou're treating "deeper personal flaw" as the default explanation, and then working backwards from the outcome to justify it. A guy struggles in dating and your first category is "deeper personal flaw." Why? What evidence do you have beyond the fact that he's struggling? And I think your own examples show why. You can detect bitterness now. You can detect trauma now. You can detect social awkwardness now. What you can't detect is whether those things caused his dating struggles or whether years … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:37 PM |
| 8 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwere not talking about social skill, nor pretty privilage or any of that. regardless social skills issnt going to suddenly make a short/unnatractive man attractive. what exactly does it depend on if its not moral or amoral? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:31 PM |
| 4 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextim not googling anything, if its what your bringing to the arguments, present it here. thats your job | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:26 PM |
| 3 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextthats not whats being discussed here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:24 PM |
| 9 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextthats not making his problem everyone elses. he is within his right to not care about that stuff. anytime he wants too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:22 PM |
| 11 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwere not talking about you. were talking about amoral v moral. you say attraction isnt static, but it doesn't disappear either. if a tall attractive man is has a record of beating women (which this was proven). may have some women deterred, but that doesnt mean the attraction just stopped. he is still a very much a desired selected man. This proves that whatever a man says or doesnt say, regardless if its before or after rejection or whatever, isnt the reason he was unselected, if attraction is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:20 PM |
| 16 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextWomen are shallow?? why is completely true statements bad to say depending on who saying them women absolutely dont mind a tall attractive piece of shit. Its true. if its all Amoral, regardless of what he said before or after isnt moral either. because if he was attractive saying the same stuff, he wouldn't be unselected would he? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:12 PM |
| 9 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextexactly, but i consistantly see women, moralizing incels unsucess. its not because of what he said, his beliefs, or any of that. its just that he was short and/or unnatractive. you cant say its amoral, then moralize unsucess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:10 PM |
| 6 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextIf my attraction could be could be loss because i said something or didnt do or did do something. Then the attraction was only bassed off what you wanted me to do and how you wanted me to be, or what you thought you could get. Shes mixing those two up, tall attractive men dont stop being attractive to most women regardless of what they say. thats true attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:08 PM |
| 4 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwhat statistical violence do incels or selected men lead in or even a significant minority in? you still have to prove your earlier claim. and how do these men externalize it? and hwat exactly is wrong with externalizing it? his inability isnt something hes doing to himself, its something that because of other people, he doesnt have access too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextOk then, if its amoral, its not because of what he says, or is attitude. he was just short and unnatractive. thats it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:59 PM |
| 5 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextits an assumption based on his attractiveness. regardless of what he said before and afterwards. people bringing up what he said afterwards, doesnt affect his attractiveness, as there are men who have said and did worse things, and still have rosters. blaming on what he said afterwards is still moralizing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:58 PM |
| 8 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextif what he said could kill his attraction, Then she wasnt really attracted to him in the first place, Nuance doesnt work here as "it could kill attraction". basically operating off of. "Meehh you could be fine, if you do and act as i want you to." that isnt attraction, thats just doing more to be considered, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:55 PM |
| 13 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwhat statistical violence do incels or selected men lead in or even a significant minority in? and whats wrong wwith venting? or are they just supposed to accept it and shutup? ironically women do often make their problems everyones elses. its been happening for decades. do you have the same thoughts for them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:43 PM |
| 13 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextThis is ironic considering women complain alot, Pointing out women are shallow, isnt being attacked if its true. its just they arent comfortable with it. even in a statement simple as "i cant date, women only really like tall men" is still going to get him a moral judgment on his character despite it being a true statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:40 PM |
| 8 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextyou cannot self improve height, nor facial attractiveness. coupled with women abundant of options. Red pill is useless without the hardware to implement it. and how exactly did these men make it everyone responsibility besides themselves? or did they just say things women were uncomfortable with regarding the reality of their dating lives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:37 PM |
| 30 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextYou say bad character can kill attraction, but we have countless examples of men with openly bad character, arrogance, misogyny, selfishness, criminal records, infidelity, or outright hostility toward women who still have no shortage of romantic and sexual options. If attraction were strongly tied to moral character, those men should struggle the most. Yet many don't. That's why I keep separating attraction from morality. Women are perfectly capable of being attracted to men they don't morally a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:32 PM |
| 26 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextA man struggles with dating, complains about it, and suddenly the explanation becomes "well, women can sense the bitterness" or "that's why he's single." But that doesn't tell us whether the bitterness existed before years of rejection or developed because of it. It's a bit circular. He's unsuccessful because he's bitter, and we know he's bitter because he's unsuccessful and complaining about it. The broader point is that attraction and selection are not meritocracies. Plenty of good men struggl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:28 PM |
| 5 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and Contextwhat exactly is "making their problems other peoples problems"? and why is it only acceptable when certain groups do it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:25 PM |
| 9 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextSo is his inability to be selected moral or amoral? What is YOUR opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:23 PM |
| 7 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextYou say that when you meet an unsuccessful guy, you can "instantly know" why he's unsuccessful. Sometimes it's trauma, bitterness, hatred, lifestyle issues, etc. But how do you know that's actually why he wasn't selected rather than you constructing a narrative after observing the outcome? Women routinely reject men they describe as kind, stable, respectful, successful, and good people. The explanation is often simply "I'm not attracted to him." No moral failing required or explanation. The prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:23 PM |
| 9 | Women consistently reinforce that attraction is Amoral. Yet continue to moralize unsuccessful Mens inability to be selected. Depending on Narrative and ContextYou're talking about his reaction after the fact. I'm talking about why he was unselected in the first place. A guy calling a woman a stuck-up bitch after rejection may reveal a character flaw. I agree. But that doesn't mean that character flaw was the reason he wasn't selected. You're retroactively attaching a moral explanation to an outcome that women themselves say is based on attraction. If attraction is amoral, then plenty of decent men can be unselected and plenty of assholes can be select… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:18 PM |
| 17 | Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for.Exactly. They need to try to equalize the sheer difficulty it is in the dating makret, Women cannot stand not being victims, they'll settle for being neutral. But NEVER men have it worse. for example short men, They know most women do not desire short men, but its much simpler to moralize his unsucess to make themselves feel better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 02:41 AM |
| 28 | Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for.heres my thing, Men have a much wider net for what is considered attractive, women dont. fat women are desired, small breast women are desired, tall women are desired, muscular women are desired. all of these women are desired, best he can get is just being realistic, and staying in his league. women truly cant comprehend men being happy and desiring their league, despite much more attractive women out there. short men arent desired, broke men arent desired. unnatractive men arent desired. and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 01:51 AM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.i dont see you as someone worthy of correcting my sentences for. whatever i type firs, is what you get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 12:26 AM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.you nor her have an argument were done here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 12:19 AM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.sure, every woman "seen" things that go against the stats and studies. this is like the short men saying how dating is non existant for them and hearing, "duudee i knew a short guy who pulled all the girls brooo" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:50 PM |
| 3 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.i didnt say women only go for the top 20 percent, they only desire the top 20 percent, and it cant be in reverse, men also desire chubby women, small breast women, older women are a thing among young men apparently, mens range for attractiveness in women is much much larger qnd very few women ended up settled for However we cannot say the same for short men can we? Lmk if you still wanmt papers though, i needed to clear up sthat straw man befor ei do so. because that wasnt what i said i had pape… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:47 PM |
| 3 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.this is moving the goal post. i said that in response to This goes both ways. Most women and men are in relationship and married and they’re married to each other. which you tried to use, as a "this goes both ways," and it doesnt mean it disproves that my OP. women get with men for other conveniences. of courese not every woman can get a tall attractive man. after all, were talking about DESIRE, most men desire most women. most women do not desire most women which is why i asked and where and wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:44 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.well, yes it is, not everyone, in your league is the same personality type, doesnt erase they are in the same league | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:30 PM |
| 3 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.Obviously, not everyone on your level doesnt match with you personality wise, its just the the fact that you are on his level. and hes correct to think "hmm, we are both this and that, she seems to be in my ramnge, lets give it a shot" obviously nobody said that the fat poor punk rock dude, is going to be compatible with the fat poor quiet book woman, but they are stiill in the same league | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:28 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.it isnt asinine, because men and women want different hings and desire different things, most men desire most women, most women get swipes, most women have relationships, sex and dates. things that take effort from men, and most men do not have the means or the attraction, to be using women for convenience, women arent even desired for what they have in their pocket like men are. Women know when their being used, its just depends on if they mind or not. and i can assure you that if a woman is go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:23 PM |
| 0 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.a fat poor man is not tin the league as a fat poor women, sounds like hypergamy? its literally one to one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:09 PM |
| 3 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.and where and what is any demographic of women of any kind that are barred from relationships and sex? if men are supposedly chasing only the youngest and thinnest women i need proof of this. as i said. i can prove short men have it very hard. i need you to prove these women exist and its not self inflicted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:08 PM |
| 1 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.yuour operating of the assumption that i believe every red pill talking point, so your first paragraph is void. the whole middel is mumbp jumbo that really didnt go against my OP. men asking for a second date is just another proccess in the selection. he is still being compared, which is why they are just dating. he is only selecting if the 50 year old woman offers him, other wise no, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:07 PM |
| 6 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.what makes these men, "contaminated" water? and are all attractive tall men are not "contaminated water" again, your toeing on the hypergamy hole, unless you have the outrageous claim that most men are terrible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:01 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.Who are you to tell anyone that their relationship isn’t operating out of desire? i didnt say anyone relationship was anything, i said she was operating off an assumption every relationship was operating off desire, and gavce many ways a relationship or marrige can facilitate. funny how you talk about moving goal posts, but present a straw man Especially with the fact that the world has changed so much that right now, desire is far more of a requirement for a relationship today than it was in de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:59 PM |
| 5 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.your quoting my comments for someone else under different context, i need you to explain further how those two are contradicting each other. and your first comment above isnt my claim, i never said men are barred from relationships, your going to have to explain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:46 PM |
| 3 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.oh hevaens, how could the fat poor man think that the fat poor woman was in his league, what the hell was he thinking. you could have just said "welp thats just hypergamy for yah" and we could have just ended this here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:39 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.Selection is the act of choosing someone or something from a number of alternatives. It doesn’t require a guarantee or the final say. selection from options that were already available to you. because if it wasn't available to you. you werent selecting. selecting from men who ALREADY made an offer. as i said, selection implies guarantee. men who already made the "offers" are guarantees. now your just selecting from them. repeat yourself until your blue in the keyboard. selection and choice arent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:32 PM |
| 4 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.i mean that the ok cupid study isnt the only thing men were using to support the 80/20 thing. There is no dating app data to support the 80/20 rule. "Women only swipe right on 5% of men" does not mean "women only swipe right on the same 5% of men." do you think this 5 percent is even spread across all men somehow? what incentive do we have to believe short/ men are in there? or unnatractive men? or even average men? because of those men are in there, this number should be bigger because average … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:20 PM |
| 8 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.women have no offers of the men they desire, a very important distinction. which makes it self inflicted. but valid in their choice. also 60 percent of men under thirty are single. new high in virginity rates, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:14 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.fat women date all the time, broike women date all the time, ugly women date all the time, there is no large minorito of women who are unable to get dates. whatever is going on with you, is likely self inflicted. like most women dating issues are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:12 PM |
| 5 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.exactly, whioch highlights what my posts is talking about. all those women are below his league. its that just because his exact match is is dating up, which the women below him are trying to do with him. Not only this heavily imply hypergamy, that women swear doesnt exist, but "men also pursuing a small group of men" is nothing but projection from women engaging in hypergamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:08 PM |
| 6 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors."Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors. is the debate, thats a comprehension issue i cannot help you with. my whole posts dives into the "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” and why its false. aslo there are many people here disagreeing. unless yopur saying my posts is wrong, your ironicaly complaining about me complaining, do you have and argument? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:04 PM |
| 1 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.ok, their correct generalizations, whats next? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:01 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.selection implies guarantee you can choose wich job you want. the company weighs you against other applicants and see if you get selected. You choose which women to approach. however, this not wether women have the option to choose to be able to say yes or no, thats not what were talking about, women have been able to choose yes or no for a long time now. she weighs you against other "applicants" and see if you get selected. he didnt select her, he chose her, and made an offer, choice and select… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:00 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.what you quoted is stuff thats true, not my experience. “Women are the ones who concentrate attention on a small slice of men.” women have a sub 6 percent swipe rate on dating apps, despite recieving the vast majority amount of swipes. do you think that with the height filter, and all that women want, is just average men in that six percent? “Women have the picking power.” “Almost all women can have sex and relationships anytime they want" well both these are true for obvious reasons “If she has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:48 PM |
| 3 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.when i said inconsistant, i mean in general on PPD the 80/20 rule isnt only supported byt that, dating app swipes percentages, biological incentives supported by papers. and of course, straight from women mouths i cant accept that due to how old it is. that was 17 years ago | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:40 PM |
| 5 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.its a debate, none of this is complaining its a statement, no post on PPD from man or woman is going to change any significant thing in the real world, were all just debating the topics, if you didnt see anything to debate about,, then why did you even comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:36 PM |
| 4 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.women of these groups are only looking at a very small group of men. even smaller than your average womens group. its crazy to say most men can even wiff a 8, 9 , or 10. almost all women have no problem with sex and relationshiops, that includes lower than average women, compared to their likely incel counterparts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:34 PM |
| 5 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.im just saying if were accepting surveys or stats from ok cupid. then lets keep it consistent. because it varies from debate to debate. 80/20 ru;e is not debunked. women do not date only the top percentage of men, but thats the only group they really desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:29 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.dating apps, approaching, biological incentives, those..ahem..books and of course what women...say? from papers to word of mouth this can be proven not directly but evident surrounding evidentce women arent going around chasing and pursuing average men as they do a tall attractive man. this is how we know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:27 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.when exactly did i do that> in response to her comment. please quote her and me, otherwise its dismissed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:22 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.oh excuse me that was you, i for some reason thought you were two different people. my apologies. i presented to you two peole who are both fat and poor. this should be a one to one match. but hes getting rejected because she can get higher than she is. but instead of admitting how lobsided this market is, you cant even tell me what his his league is. is his leage a fat, poor disabled woman? then shes dating up by being with him?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:21 PM |
| 4 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.your operation off the assumption, that those marriages and relationships are operating of desire. convenience, money, done with promiscuity, stability. ect ect. are all reasons men are ALSO able to get married. alos most men under 30 arent in relationships at half that of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:15 PM |
| 8 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.i already said in my previous comment. which is her choice after all and valid im not going to debate strawmans, so if you say i said anything, next time it needs to come with a quote from me. men desire the best they can get. as most men desire most women, its not mens fault that women cant comprehend being completely satified with your counterpart | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:11 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.likely self inflicted, but doesnt really go against my OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:08 PM |
| 6 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.your offering your skills and experience to the jobs that you feel you are qualified for. in the end, the choice is still up to them if you get selected. your not selecting anything if the final choice of wether you get it or not is depending on someone else, thats an offer or negotiation. He is Choosing who he is going to approach to "offer", if those women where approaching him, hes selecting, he the selector. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:06 PM |
| 6 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.No where near to the degree that men do, if at all. if it does, most of the time it was her chasing after a highly desriable man, which is her choice after all and valid, but self inflicted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:49 PM |
| 6 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.oh? and where and what is any demographic of women of any kind that are barred from relationships and sex? if men are supposedly chasing only the youngest and thinnest women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:48 PM |
| 2 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.im waiting for her response. yours isn't even an answer and is followed by a straw man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:44 PM |
| 9 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.so funny how the gender with the most options is preaching to be selective, when they are the selectors. That tone deaf advice operating from he most advantageous positions like a boomer telling the young generations they arent working hard enough to get ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:38 PM |
| 7 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.considering most almost all women have access to relationships and sex, my point still stands. if these men are supposedly doing the same, then surely theres a significant portion of women barred from access to relationships and sex like men are. but it isnt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:29 PM |
| 0 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.this as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:24 PM |
| 5 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.If the women you're approaching doesn't want you, the problem isn't them. It's you. and i presented you a scenario of what heppens often, a fat poor man and a fat poor women is on the same level no? but she can get out of her league. and if shes rejecting him, then what exactly is his league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:23 PM |
| 6 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.leagues dont play the same way and acting like it does is nsd faith. a fat poor man and a fat poor women is on the same level no? but she can get out of her league. and if shes rejecting him, then what exactly is his league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:11 PM |
| 7 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.his artivle is The Official Blog of OkCupid.com and im talking about the ok cupid study men bring up when talking about attractiveness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:08 PM |
| 15 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.ugly, poor, old, and even disabled women have no significant showing of them unable to have sex or relationships, where exactly is this proof that this supposed significant group of women are barred from sex and relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:07 PM |
| 11 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.offering, is not the same as selecting, she didnt approach because of vast said options, you approach to be considered,, and maybe selected. and she also can approach, men are the farthest thing from being passive, otherwise wed be extinct as a species, but beiung proactive doesn't mean you get selected, your offering, and being weighted against her other options. like a applicant and a job. everyone has choice. but options, self awareness circumstances affect choices, like how one side have man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 08:05 PM |
| 8 | "Men also only pursuing a small group of women” Is Projection From The Selectors.This article is from 2009, and also its funny how we pick and choose when the ok cupid study is valid. also, nobody said women only date the top percent of men, other wise we as a species would be very small. Women only desire the top percent of men, is correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:56 PM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i didnt say they shouldnt, please quote me, you already agreed sooo,,,theres no pint in going further here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:48 AM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,Its comman that women specifically avoid tall attractive men? yea ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:42 AM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,then you agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:41 AM |
| -2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,again a comprehension problem. im not going back your you, you gotta go back and read, because thats whats not being said at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:41 AM |
| 6 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,because her question was pointless. and didn go anywhere, i didnt argue that either, i said it reveals what is desired, its a shame i have to read, understand and for people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:40 AM |
| 4 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,no i didnt, im ssorry, this is just a reading problem, i cannot help you with that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:35 AM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,here we go, not feeling like disproving this obviously false comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:34 AM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i didnt say she did. please quote me, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:33 AM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,how convenient, and doesnt negate the point nor disprove it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:32 AM |
| 5 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,not the point .doesn't change what it reveals. whats most desired is revealed in both | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:29 AM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,women being the more selective. have a much smaller and narrow range of wwhats attractive, (height, looks, ect) are all the main factors, any thing out of that is settling because she coulnt attaint hat man. the reason why tall men are desired and short men have to make up shor it. but tall and short women are desired | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:25 AM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,most your comment just proves my OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:23 AM |
| 4 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,then you agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:22 AM |
| -1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,its not being taller than her, its about being taller compared to other men, its biological, as well as social. which is why a 5'6 man thats taller than her, shes still going to find the 6'3 man much more attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:21 AM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,nobody here said men have no agency, agency without the options to act on them is just wishful thinking, average men do take what they can get, but they desire it just as much. its no secret men have a much bigger range for what is attractive, and uh...haha...i guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:19 AM |
| -1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,because men arent hypergamous if so, nowhear near the degree women are, just because he desires her doenst mean she didnt settle for him, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:16 AM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,yes, men are happy with their looks match, im not sure how thats oh so convient, also is that laughing emoji like your signature....or just your thing or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:13 AM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,im talking about women getting defensive about it, and you proved that wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:10 AM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,they dont, its just that they also desire those women too. men arent the ones who is aiming above their looks macth, thats women, men are fine with an equal. again, this is just a comprehension issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:08 AM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,Because desiring a man for how smart he is not anywear near a prevelant as height, looks, or money. she is not a metric for what most women desire, and i didnt say "nah" i said its rare, and its not my opinion, dating app, and statistics and studies clearly point out what women miost desire in a man. (height, looks, money) are all important and it tracks with how were biologically evolved. comprehension people,...comprehension | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:06 AM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,men desire most of all of this body types, which is why its rare for a man to say he settled, women are not held to height standards, economic standards, nor weight, (yes, fat women have no probem getting men) however, women settle for men outside of what they desire | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:01 AM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,then you disagree with her original comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:59 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i didnt contradict anything if you made no argument here yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:59 PM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,the top 20 percent in attarctive ness. (height, looks money ect) for men. just being smart is just...being smart, it can be desired but pales in comparison to the other desirable traits mentioned, or them women that are sexually attracted to smartness, the names of them leave me at the moment. angry isjust gaslighting, and if your going to keep gaslighting me about how i feel, im going to stop responding to your posts. not just now but for future debates, this not the first time youve done this,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:58 PM |
| 6 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,80 percent of women desire the top 20 percent of men, not every woman can get the top 20, so they settle outside of that, where is this wrong exactly? because this phrase was never only 20 percent of men get relationships and sex. otherwise the population would be drastically lower | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:45 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,is that what it is? or this is an attempt, to whisk away the argument being made. either way, make an argument against my OP, or were done here. because its not going anywhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:43 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,its everywhere, but chad is a rare man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:41 PM |
| 5 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,Women like tall and attractive men with money. "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" do you think these phrases are describing a shorter/broke/man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:35 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,yes....women do vehemently reject red pill slang. and concepts, like....what are you getting at. you said women werent getting defensive aboiut it. i said they were. they do it everyday in these posts. hell even now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:32 PM |
| 6 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,quote me where i said that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:30 PM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,if the mods ahvent taken down the "whining" posts the its allowed, yoru you just think its whining from whatever narrative your trying to push | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:29 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,chad is the top enchelon of men, in terms of desirability, lacking one of these triats doesnt automatically makes a chad a non chad. money is one of the things women have been hypergamous for since humans could made currency, the rest of your comment doenst contribute to the debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:23 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,really? this was your best example of me whining? you wanted to be on the op commenters band wagon so badly and respond for her. and this is your best example of me "whining"? me highlighting that a man who is down in one area has to make up for it in another? were done here edit: whining - complaining or inclined to complain in a childish or petulant manner - meriam webster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:19 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,Its still hypergamy, your just paying for it. hypergamy doesnt end at how you get to said man, its the desire in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:13 PM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,even if they are. theyer allowed to. if their not supposed to, the mods can take it down. although, The women here are very much not....normal either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:11 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,please quote me, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:09 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,are you a mod? or close to one? a very weird threat, i just simply forgot to or missed it or just didnt expand on it?. minde you im responding to other people. and i didnt attack people, matter of fact people have been attacking me in my posts for the longest. im going to answer your question then im done talking to you. it doesnt have to be just about deep moral alignment, but you didnt deny the other stuff. thats why i just said its just hypergamy with extra steps. you want the best and more. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:09 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,do you think a womens desire for a taller, attractive, and a man that makes more or at least just as. suddenly dissapeared because women today have full autonomy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:02 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,very low effort and uninteligent response.. do better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:00 PM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,what have i made up in my mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:58 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,who said anything about resenting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:57 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,then its just hypergamy with more steps and doesnt prove my OP wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:57 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,hypergamy with just more steps, not really much different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,If you think debating is whining, im not sure what to tell you. this is a sub where we talk about these things, if anything your proving my pooint | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:55 PM |
| -1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,ok? doesnt disprove my posts. like im waiting on your argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:54 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,shes not really adressing anything from my posts so...the contexts is shifted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:53 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,thats not the point of my posts, but your telling women, repeatedly argue against. hypergamy, 80/20 rule? the red pill in general? women dotn talk about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:53 PM |
| 5 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,really? when women read those "novels" are they just average men? where did that question even take us? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:49 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:48 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,cool, your experiences, (if true, becaus eyou apparently know about all these womens dating lives) still doesnt dispute the point. your not a representative of the average woman anymore of me being the average man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:48 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,every man wants to have sex, its no secret. this is just a false narrative that women mostly have men that just want to have sex. a bitter narrative, yet never really prevented any woman from finding relationships to a significant degree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:45 PM |
| -3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i mean this is like asking me for a scientific paper for proof sky is blue. there is no statistic, but does it really need to be for something so obvious? no woman wants to be with a broke man, especially not a man that's unattractive and short as well than he has to make up for it in other ways. i didnt know i had to provide proof for the obvious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:42 PM |
| 0 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,Personality never made any woman wet, after all "niceness" isnt what makes a man attractive. aint that what women say? or legos, games, harry potter or whatever. These are just addons. so ya know....she knows the man isnt a NPC | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:36 PM |
| 4 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,no, women desire these men, almost every woman does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:33 PM |
| -8 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i have to prove that a man has to make up for what he lacks in another way? short men dont have to make up for their height? unnatractive men dont have to make up for their face? i have to prove that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:33 PM |
| -4 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,if you have nothing to debate, then dont | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:31 PM |
| 3 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i have to prove women desire tall and attractive men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:30 PM |
| -2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,due to your, very specific and rare circumstances. your not really included in what im saying. so your kind of in another type of thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:28 PM |
| 6 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,i need to provide proof that women desire tall attractive men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,oh? and how you figure that? is there a comitte? a vote among average women? that yall are pretty much the representatives of average women, its strange really, how women monoliths and not at the same time, and it changes depending on the narrative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:24 PM |
| -1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,all women want this man, but not all women will be able to, so they settle, its not bait if its true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:22 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,you and your friends are a small group among billions of women, whom i can assure you have abundant of options, and will pick the best of said options, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:18 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,if you want to be settled for, i guess you can say that. if you want to be desired. no. not at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:17 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,most men have standards. but its not anything most women cant meet, as obviosuly women have no problems dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:14 PM |
| -4 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,doesn't disprove my point. women dont have to desire all these things. at least half. you and your friends are a small group | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:13 PM |
| 2 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,poor women date period, poor men cant date unless he is above average in another category, (height, looks ect) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:12 PM |
| -1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,do you actually have an argument or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:10 PM |
| 1 | "meet my standards", "not settling", "treat me the way i deserve" ect. All of these buzz phrases at the core is just hypergamy,A minority, as most women have the desire for height, income, looks ect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:09 PM |
| 6 | Women feels more entitled than most men.romantic loving sex, PIV sex. good sex, bad sex, they arent getting any, theyll be lucky to get a kiss in their life. the fact your experienced enough to know any of this and the difference between how good it is. he never got a chance to possibly learn to be good or bad at it. he just simply doesnt get that. you are privileged compared to your exact same male counterpart | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Women feels more entitled than most men.yes. its worse. your still getting sex. even mid or even good sex every rarely. he doesnt get it once. im not saying what your going through is good. but it doesn't matter how bad a woman has it. her male counterpart has it much much worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:45 PM |
| 4 | Women feels more entitled than most men.thats the point, there is no if, he isnt. and hell never know what that feels like, while you still get to have sex. fromm bad to very good sex even if rarely There isnt some like, "we all have it bad theres no need to compare" he objectively has it worse than you. there is now way around it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:39 PM |
| 5 | Women feels more entitled than most men.your counter part gets literally nothing. just nothing, not even the opportunity to experience sex. your still way more privileged than him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:11 PM |
| 7 | It’s not that women don’t understand dating is hard for men. Is that men don’t understand they make dating hard for themselves..right wing conservatives is more married than the left leaning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:04 PM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsim talking about what entails of "your pulling your weightm so your good enough" henry cavil treatment or nothing, and most young men havent asked a woman out. were all just trying to crawl up in any way we can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:51 PM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsexactly, he doent have to do anything, they dont settle for him at all. women dnt want someone that will pull their weight, they will settle for someone that does, men aspire to be that guy. its the ultimate sybol of desire. your idea of desire is well your not tall enough, attractive enough, but youll do. because you can put dishes up. men dont want that. half assed desire | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:42 PM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswomen will settle for someone that pulled their weight. women arent going to stop dating henry cavil because he didnt pull his weight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:20 PM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswomen generally want up and settle for an equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:15 PM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsthis is all just hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"that rule never made any sense to me, most of these...pills. overlap alot of times. esecially red pill and black pill. and semlessly too. most things redpill say can be black pill too. that rule makes no sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:51 AM |
| 3 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Link the RAINN or whatever it is stat then. so i can see it. Yall bringing up because of yall feeelings ironically. i didnt say it didnt exist. it doesn't happen on average and i have yet to have any women here prove that it does. it literally doesnt push any of the conversation forward becasue its vague, no numbers and women bring it up constantly, Its a debate, not your personal journal or a trauma center. there are subreddits for that stuff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"little bitterness there. thats unfortunate that happened to you and your friends. I dont know ANY woman that has been assulted. my experiences vs yours. see how redundant that is and doesnt push the conversation? But its not something that has happens on average. again, its only used to shut down any conversation i na normal setting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:21 AM |
| 2 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Then stop bringing it up in debates, because we cant argue it. if its just this unreported thing thats in the air., you or anyone else cant quantify it. then its redundant to talk about. because we simply dont know. Its just a device that women use to shut down any conversation made in a normal setting when we talk about them being privileged or hypocritical in anyway. using extremes to justify moral, and non moral inconsistencies, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:14 AM |
| 5 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"its reality. are you saying the average men has the agency and options to get relationships and sex all he wants? and what the hell is social agency? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:07 AM |
| 4 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"yall whip out statistics like these, but when i literally ask to pull a study that women experience abuse, harassment and and rape on average in dating they go silent. women on this subreddit is hilarious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:05 AM |
| 5 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"Unless your a tall attractive man, you dont have the options to back up your agency. You simply have to put your best foot forward and hope for the best. you have to pay, women have an abundant of options for better men at the swipe of her finger, getting approached, ect. constantly weighing you against what she had and could possibly get. if your a short/unnatractive man, definitely not. regardless of what they do, (you can make up for being unattractive with being tall IMO) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:59 AM |
| 2 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"where did i say it never happens? and everything you just said doesnt happen on average in dating and sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege"im guessing this is a little posts has something to do with mine. lol. surely if women face all those, oh so bad problems with sex being unpleasant, painful and dangerous. surely it would affect all men right? hmm thats strange. A particular small group of men is consistently getting sex regardless if their terrible or not and despite how oh so terrible it is.....and this other more massive group have to court, pay, and be on their best behavior for it. Its bullshit. women love sex and is not th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:38 AM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsshe didnt list a source, also 60 percent of men are single compared to 30 percent of women, id like to see where her source comes from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:15 AM |
| 1 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsshe didnt disprove my OP posts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 10:07 AM |
| – | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsim fine, im desired, just not for the reasons i want it to be. no problems with sex at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 08:08 AM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsIm not a selected men, but i do have options, i already spoke about me, and this doesnt prove, that women arent privileged or the selectors. make an argument to my posts instead of riding off someone else tails. or get on the sideline kid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:56 AM |
| 3 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswaiting for the links | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:42 AM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsSkipped over? I responded by trying to teach you the definition because you were using it incorrectly. care to tell me how i used it wrong? because i cant explain this more to you. or break it down any futher. Again, you can't have selectors without pursuers. If selectors are drowning in attention from countless pursuers, then pursuing clearly isn't so difficult that pursuers are in short supply. this isnt relevant to the argument. its about privilege. billionaires are nothing without the averag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:32 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsYour study is just a group of people. who mixed together other studies that suggested that indicate that up to 57% to 88% of women face sexual harassment on dating apps The "indicate" was a red flag, from jump. alot of studies indicate alot of things, Your study is just people, who put 5 other studies together, and made an assumption. "More research is needed to capture the prevalence of adult sexual harassment via the use of dating apps" is literally at the end. it just an educated guess. read … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:20 AM |
| 7 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsanecdotal, i need statistics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:03 AM |
| -1 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsi gave a whole as example. anmd yous till couldnt connect. thats not my problem. i already agreed women dont view average mens desire as a privilege Women simply dont view average mans desire as privilege because women have acees to top, better men on tap. doesnt mean its not a privilege, its just on tap and easily accessible.. READ READ. its just hypergamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:03 AM |
| 8 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsdoesnt happen on average in dating and no women here have brought me any link. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:59 AM |
| 1 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsThe details of who women are attracted to doesnt matter to the main topic of the post. The topic being whether selectors have privilege and the acknowledgement of it. It can be especially if were talking about selectors, and did you skip over where i responded to that i said was just hypergamy? you gotta read. otherwise i only mentioned it when they gave me a reason to. But it doesn't for selectors according to your post. Why does the downsides of process matter for pursuers but not selectors? b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:58 AM |
| 1 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsim far from rejected, i already made so many posts about me. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:48 AM |
| 7 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorslink? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:48 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsthen its redundant to talk about if thats true, because if its never reported. you nor it can talk about how much is actually in that 98 percent. its just in the air, and if there is a statistic about it. then it is reported. Im not going to go along with what i see just because women say it. nor would women do that for any men on here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:45 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsit is a privilege, they just dont view men outside that small group a privilege. its the same thing with water, everyone things water is a basic human right and not a privilege because of of accessible on tap water is. but if the water treatment plants, blew up today, all of us not near oceans, rivers, lakes, is going to view people with access to water as privileged. Women simply dont view average mans desire as privilege because women have acees to top, better men on tap. doesnt mean its not a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:43 AM |
| 8 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsIm starting to seriously think women on PPD debate have some sort of issue with not personalizing debates. you wrote a page biography, about something that doesnt happen on average. (have yet to get that proof from anyone) We reallly need to crack down on this, there is something wrong with the women on PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:31 AM |
| 1 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsway to dodge my question. this, "no you" thiong you got going on, just make s it seem like you have no argument. exactly, most mens desire isnt a privilege to women, only from a small desired group of men. its just hypergamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:27 AM |
| -2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsIdk why you are bringing up hypergamy because they said. clearly value yourselves highly based on your insistence that your pursuit should be viewed as a privilege. en like OP have the audacity to be unwanted by most women and try to spin it as privilege. and i asked who is worthy. , matter of fact we dont have too. we look at dating apps, and approaches. its just hypergamy. If being a selector with a bunch of options is a privilege, why isn't being a pursuer with a bunch of opportunities to pur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:25 AM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsoh by all means take advantage, women have and been doing that, and it only proves my OP. the rest of what you typed is irrelevant,doesnt matter or is statistically rare | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 06:18 AM |
| -4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsnot unwanted, just wanted for the wrong reasons. plus both of yall comments only prove hypergamy, what mens desire isnt worthy? and who desire is? and how does the filter process it? what do the men who desire is a privilege have what other men dont? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:55 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsdating apps can scam. but dating apps dont make women date taller men, You tried to waisk it away by saying women wanbt different things, but atttraction and selection can be tracked. and we can clearly see who is and who isnt. womenw ant different variations of the same group of men are you going to answer my prevoius questions or are you just going to pretend it wasnt there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:44 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsa woman of statistical average height, weight, economic standing, the women we literally walk by everyday | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:38 AM |
| 6 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswhats your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:25 AM |
| 7 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsall the women turn into therapist when they cant make an argument on this sub. its hilarious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:20 AM |
| 6 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsduh, im not talking about narnia am i? women care alot about on average when it comes to assult and stuff. but when it comes to this suddenly it doent matter, thats the narrative control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:19 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsNope, were not going to leave this at a "we just all like different things" because it allows you to brush off the argument actually according to dating apps most women a select for 6'2 in a man. theres also a sharp cut off from 6'0 to 5'11. where is exactly the different from women to women? and what makes taller men more inherently adequate? your dancing around it. becuase phenomena is the "scams" "terrible" and "mediocre" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:13 AM |
| 8 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsun thus, concludes this, First it was men are the ones shopping out of her league, and thos eoh so unnatractive women struggle so hard. now they dont. you haven't shown me any statistical, proof that thiese women exist on a significant level. much less compared to their male counter parts. and now all of a sudden they dont. They dont exist unless its self inflicted. none of this is about me. introspection doesnt make up for why a man is unattractive, it doesnt make him taller nor more attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:06 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsif every yes doesnt mean a success. what do you think the majority of no's are? its life for men, and it proves my OP comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:57 AM |
| 8 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsya dodged my question with something else thats just...wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:55 AM |
| 18 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsmen having much less options than women is an extreme? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:53 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsALl the women you listed. a mere molecule , in the vastness of billions of women. if women have those stats and are not choices or self inlficted i would like to see them, provide them for men The average women is the women you walk by everyday | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:53 AM |
| 6 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsi said who? what does the type of men that are "adequate" look like? and why are there so many of them? what does men who are mediocre look like? and whya re there so many of them from womens view. what does this top percent of compatible men look like? and what exacty do the have the rest dont? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:50 AM |
| 1 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorscorrect, now prove it happen in dating on average, otherwise the two isnt connect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:48 AM |
| 10 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsone side have an abundant of options, one side doesn't, This means one side have to be much more proactive in getting selected by the side who has the most options, the side with the most options are more pickier and equally superficial as per their right, what would you call the side with the most options? what would you call the other, what would you call this phenomena? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:47 AM |
| 9 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsall the time is a more extreme version of on average. on average means alot. it doesnt matter to people trying to control a narrative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:44 AM |
| 6 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsdo you take precautions for getting struck by lightening? a snake encounter? what about getting mauled to death by a bear? all these are rare and only takes one time to kill you. just ke getting killed or abused on a date. do you have precautions for those as well? if not whats the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:44 AM |
| 7 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswomen can still say no to the proposal, marriage is a conversation people should have already had, and she chose this man for that. were not ignoring the amount of privilage women have throughout the whole process and focussing on the single point a man makes a decision. ALSO women can propose. which makes this a self inflicted problem. The rest of your posts is just agreeing with my OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:38 AM |
| 15 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsfat women have no problem getting dates and relationships, broke women have no problems your trailer park frumpy egg shapped women always have kids or a husband/borfriend around were is these significant minority of unnattractive women that cant get absolutely anything? and the fact you said "less" and not equally unnatractive boyfriend only proves thios woman is trying to get out of her league | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:35 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsA "process only men have to go through which MY OP point even more. everything you just said. only proved my OP point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:30 AM |
| 11 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsthis would work if only men who have a hard time socializing are the only men who have a hard time dating, average men get barely or any swipes, approaching is a risky and low winning effort. completely normal everyday average men. average women get the opposite, so this only works for them, hence they are the selectors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:29 AM |
| 10 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsThey are, they dont happen on average | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:27 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsIm talking about women, your ONE women, You dont KNOW women, you have your specific experiences. women have no stats of sexless, unable to get dates, unable to find men interested in them, if anything Your not an average woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:25 AM |
| 7 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsFrom the hoarses mouth, ill be damned whats mediocre? whats a scam? who is in this one percent of men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:22 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsWhat is funny is men with no gold acting paranoid about gold diggers when gold diggers wouldn’t be interested in them. just like hobo sexuals arent average in dating, nor is stalking, rape, harassment, way to prove my comment above | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:20 AM |
| 10 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsare we seriously sitting here saying average men are the ones with the highest standards? is this seriously your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:19 AM |
| 2 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswhat arte the stats on those risk, and do they happen on average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:18 AM |
| 6 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsi meant doent makes sense, exuse me, poor wording. but yea, prople truly believe their irrational fears all the time, from cults to the world ending, Those things doesnt happen on average, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:17 AM |
| 8 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsits not complaining, nobody has proved me wrong, you can throw extreme situations ad tally it as a reason for why you have it hard. where his i say anything about "taking" make an argument or sit on the sides | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:14 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsbecause what is selection without success? delusion and whisful thinking. but yes. any man that makes 30,000 a year should go to a dealer ship and select his favorite ferarri. you dont go into any banks because its called. self awareness. If i have a 500 credit score.(height, attractiveness) i dont need to go into any bank to know that im not going to get that loan for whatever reason. Your source is not only weird looking and untrust worthy, but from 7 years ago, and it doesnt say why it happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:13 AM |
| – | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsNo, they domt. many of your replies to me has been "nuh uh" and its getting tiring | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:04 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsprove this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:03 AM |
| 9 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsDoesnt mean its correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:03 AM |
| 6 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsYour souce is heavily carried by india, who holds have over 1.5 billion people and 80 percent are arranged marriges this tradition is mostly in South Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Sub-Saharan Africa and Southeast aisa. only duie to sheer size and reproduction level. ALSO alot of these countries the bride still chooses from suitors and has the power to decline an offer The rest of your posts, is either self inflicted problems, or futher into this phenomena. you saying you woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:02 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsno because your operating of some sort of idea that approaching is anywhere near successful than it actually is. You have the option to go to any bank and ask for a loan, but are you going to get approved by every bank? no. approaching, woks less for the average man than dating apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:54 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswere not talking about you specifically, the only group of women have it harder than is attractive women, if your not getting the attention, then your not even a below average woman since they also have no senselessness nor cant get a date, and the fact that you still had alot more options than your counter part. Also nobody said anything about victims, but where not going to equalize this as if both sides are "going through it" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:48 AM |
| 12 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorswhats the statistic probability of those things happening on average? you cant draw up those extremes, and use them as a tally for why women have it anywere near as hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:44 AM |
| 9 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsWhat exactly, makes the other 99 percent so undesirable for the job? your going down the hypergamy hole. whats Mediocre? whats exactly a 99 percent a scam in this context for women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:43 AM |
| 12 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorseveryone has agency, the poor man starving and the rich man both have the agency to want some food. but do they have the any wear near the same options? if any at all? Why is the rich man tryng to equalize the trouble of going to a 5 star restaurant to a man barely finding food? this is the women-men adjacent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:39 AM |
| 4 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsunproven fears, everytime you walk during ouside during a storm, theres a risk that you are struck by lightning and die, but nobody goes outside with lighting protective gear on when it storms, because why? lightning striking people doesnt happen on average. those women should stay single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:36 AM |
| 7 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsFunny how unproven fears are justified when depending whos having said fears. gold diggers, ex whores, high body count women, women going on dates for free food, ect ect are all disregarded as irrational unproven fears by men. but for some reason it dopesnt swing that way for women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:33 AM |
| 9 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the SelectorsThey fact that this is applied to men only is proving another way how the selection process is nowhere near as "everyone has it bad" as they make it try to seem like. Youve simply proved my point, just because he didnt approach doesnt affect her sheer amount of options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:31 AM |
| 5 | The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectorsgood thing it doesnt happen nowhere near average on dates then. this is a classic, bring in a extreme situations and try to apply it as a notch in women direction in how they have it hard. do you have anything to prove, that being assaulted, stalked, harassed is anywhere near average on dates for it to be a genuine tally on how women have it so "hard" we had this same conversation pipeline in anther posts of mine, and nobody was able to prove this claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:28 AM |
| 1 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadwell considering most men under thirty is single, and not asking women out. i thinkk they made their decision, full desire or nothing. i Guess bring on the AI grilfriends. probably the best option | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:06 AM |
| 1 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadyou are a minority of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:55 PM |
| 2 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadThe posts is about potential, and critisism of red pill, And we cant talk about that without talking about looks, most posts here falls into looks, because it one of, if not the most detrimental thing to the red pill. im also arguing the "improve" part with my comment before this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:54 PM |
| 4 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadId say its more of a genetic issue, i kinda agree with your top sentance. as i said to another comment, id say its more for any man above average height and somewhat good looks, who is just anti social | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:41 PM |
| 2 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadThe help is greatly over exagerated is what im getting at. if your a man thats 5'5, your work on fitness, money, all of it. and you do well. all youve done is become one of the best 5'5 men, and considering womens abundant of options, what exactly did this do? other than becoming better than other 5'5 men and shorter and more unattractive. also with women abundant of taller and more attractive men at her fingertips | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:37 PM |
| 1 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadwhat exactly is the red pill wrong about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:33 PM |
| 6 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadIf it was simply about being just taller, youd be correct. but is a 5'2 woman going to desire a 5'5 and 6'0 man equally because they are both taller than her? no. its not about being taller than her, its being tall relative to other men, a social and biological checkmark, And not a deal breaker dosent mean it reveals the difference in treatment and enthusiasm compared to her perfereed type | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:32 PM |
| 8 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadeven as a average man, its still very much an uphill climb. i think your greatly underestimating the amount of options even below average women have. when there is always a taller and better looking option a swipe away. and if where using relative success as per your example. an average man, thats a six with all what you said, is on par with that of a woman who is a 4 who isnt trying, that said man, has is greater than a woman who is a 4, and a man of his range who isnt trying, but what is reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:21 PM |
| 2 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadWere not talking about you respectively or your group. height is the top 2 or the first thing women want in a man (dating apps and studies reflect this) and men want to be desired. women will settle, but that is the goal to avoid as a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:08 PM |
| 3 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadid like to give men a bit more credit here. i dont think men think for sure, TRP is going to just have women jumping at them, its cartoonish. and id say asmall group of them, like shes responsible for her own pleasure. The goal is desirability, to be blunt, funny and jokes for the most part isnt what gets a woman wet. especially when there are men after her with better hardware, a tall dude, thats moderately attractive in her dms or likes, thats not as funny, is going to edge significantly more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 12:04 PM |
| 7 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadagain, the whole idealology is operating off potential. women value, 1.face, 2. height. 3. personality. (one and two and be switched around) is hes 5'3, how much do you think RP would have helped him? perhaps average height and/or unattractive/ Alot of these dudes for sure havent tried, but also alot of them already self aware of their potential ceiling, from exactly where they are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:54 AM |
| 4 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadi view it now as something for someone like... clav, but hes shy and anti social, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:49 AM |
| 2 | TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never hadYes what the objective is is correct.. I will say the red pill is a big contributor to why i am in the position i am in life right now. in terms of economic earning. frame, and mentality and stuff. and fit anything else no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenregardless, men should have the option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:46 AM |
| 2 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenand im saying, so what? she chose that man out of all her options, and reject others., she chose to have a baby with him. and it didnt pan out. ok? most things in life dont. its no different than a man who has been providing for his wife for decades, she cheats, divorce, and he has to pay her? or how many men paying child support for children that arent even theirs simply because the man was around the kid for a significant time? wheres the energy for that unfairness? or are we doing this only f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenWhat exactly did we have the best of before? Before, there was nothing a man could do if he wanted the baby, but she was going to the clinic to get the baby blundered, court systems are notoriously biased against men and not just this but crimes in general.If the man opps out, tough luck, because equality is that he has the option, If this is such a scare to any woman, dont have kids, thats an option. if anything this shows women trying to get all the privilages, and rights without any of the re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:29 AM |
| 5 | Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to womenMen should have the responsibility to not want anything to do with it because if it was her aborting the baby, its "my body my choice" right? see women started the "we dont owe" train and men started hoping on board. also So what? so what women have to bear the burdens of birth? so what that it didnt work out for her? see, women no problem telling men their problems are theirs alone. or just giving the "oh welp, too bad" responses. from dating, to general gynocentric inequality dressed up as "wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:16 AM |
| 2 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.ahh...horny and terrified. brings back memories. instead of screaming high pitched it was the sound of a V8 engine didnt see much of her after the case, when i woke up anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 11:08 AM |
| 2 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.bold of you to assume they are going to be terrified. little you know they are into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 10:39 AM |
| 18 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.and she seem to think that there's no mediorcre women. when there is just as much as men the only difference is they are mediocre with a pussy. so theyr SMV isnt affected | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 10:36 AM |
| 3 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.unacceptable. You are the Bitch king of Angmar, Act like it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 10:11 AM |
| 6 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.also, the average men is nowhere near telling women about their "wall" it jus a phenomena in the red pill space. i think your mixing pressure with this phenomena. because women always felt this pressure way before the redpill even existed. and it can come in a varierty of ways. she sees her firends all coupled up, getting married, she wants kids, ect. all entirely without red pill influence. she doesnt have to settle for what she thinks is mediocre in her mind. she can just stay single until her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 09:45 AM |
| 3 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.what did she give you hope for? if i may ask | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 09:37 AM |
| 19 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.You said the wall isnt real. i said it was. and everyone has one. though i agree that its overblown. women being the sexual selectors with the abundant of options they have. its hard for them to ever..hit the wall unless its damn near intentional. also depends on how a woman ages. not every woman age the same. some of them look down right terrible as they age with nothing but make up carrying most of the load. even at 30. The wall is dependent on alot of things. but women and men do have one. bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 09:33 AM |
| 30 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.Id say the wall is real. but its very hard for a women to hit it. it would years of physically, mentally not taking care of herself for a women to hit the wall. men have a wall too. The only difference is that men start off at the wall and build to get away from it. women start off at the opposite of the wall. but if regular maintenance they can avoid it. That is why i view women who are unable to get a partner and sex, a much bigger loser than incels are. i made a posts about this. but yea, eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenajust like how he can change his mind about the relationship. and find a woman who does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaI didnt say it could dox me. i said that we weirdly personalize these posts. were not debating each other experiences. were debatiing what happens generally, yet people make it. "you" "You" ect. im rich depending on who your looking at. some say very high middle class. what i did say is that im the riches man in here. i wish i could show without doxxing me. i dont want ANYONE here saying anything about them personally, not me nor the person im debating,. not only does it Derial the debate. it do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaironic since the comment above this is literally saying something about me personally, and i did in another comment as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:30 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenano because im not seeking women out for relationships. just sex. so whatever she did with another i dont care. i just want the sex. This all was moreso for women demonizing men for not wanting to accept lesser in relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:18 AM |
| -1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenamost women are not sleeping with short unattractive men, regardless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:06 AM |
| 0 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaIn this scenario he was just more attractive. The goal would be to find a woman who is madly attracted to you as a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenait absolutely does, its just that most men dont recieve it. but the goal is to get to as close to it as possible and drop any women who isnt giving that. If your chad to a woman, she isnt going to want to lose you, shes attracted to you. and is alot more open with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:53 AM |
| 0 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaagreed. he should leave for his sake though and his seff respect. never to accept lesser treatment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:51 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaOh so if the date is safe fun and a good connection, does that mean all the men that do it gets sex? if not, whats the deciding factor if another safe fun date ends in sex, but another one doesnt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenathen its just simply best to go find a woman who immediately thinks im "brandon" and have it good from start. Is it hard to find? yes, unrealistic? no. and yes, women are considerably more open and enthusianstic with sex with taller attractive men, its not something that can be debated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenawhy should he stay in a relationship he is not getting what he wants? women always leave the relationship if they are not getting their needs met, he doesnt need to stay and put in time in thers a women out there attracted to him and already ready, but like what women say on here, dating isnt a equal oportunity guarantee event. everyine has their own time and agency, she isnt entitled to his | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:35 AM |
| 0 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaim really not, i dont want to say my personall life on here. if you can see the time of when i posts. its all in the morning, i take flights like crazy for work, and women havent been a problem for a while for almost 2 years now. whether im here, there or gone. and im probably the richest man in here. i wish i could prove it without the risk of doxing so i cant i jus got some opinions. i cant realy say out loud. but keep hoping, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:30 AM |
| -1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaokay, if he let other women peg him and he doesnt let her. its very much a reason to not continue the relationship because she likes pegging. like duh. what havent i been consistent with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:21 AM |
| 0 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenawell have to agree to disagre on this one. because my experience is vastly different. and id say any man who agrees with you simply havent experienced it. apparently women arent more enthusiastic and sexually open to tall attractive men. who knew? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:19 AM |
| 5 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaso let me ask you a queastion? so why would she be instantly comfortable with another man to hook up with him the first night? oe not even that. kissing? sucked him off? sex in the car? what would thes men have that makes a woman skip the whole "time" part? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaoh sorry wrong comment. you specific situation with your boyfriend doesnt negate that what im atlking about is what alot of men want. mem and women are different and experience and want different things out of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:14 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaHer best, is her performence and entusiam during sex, not all tall and attractive men are good at sex. do you think this stops women from wanting to enthusiastically have sex with them? no. its simpy not accepting less. and the only way we can know that is looking at the past. not "brandom" specifically, but if im geeting less than him. im going to seek out to be some womans "brandon" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenayou posted in the automoderator agree comment section to say this because you couldnt make an argument. stay on the porch kid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:07 AM |
| 0 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaits simply what he wants. and if that "vending machine" doesnmt want to give him what he wants, much less give the soda to others and not him, ir only make sense he goes to another "vending machine" or should he stay at the current "vending machine" dissatisfied with what he wants? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaif she pegged her previous bofriend and she wants to peg him too. but he doesnt. she should leave to find someone that will do that. If your going to shift the argument. astlest make sure its one where you can win | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:04 AM |
| 6 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaNo pressure. mo coercion. she did things for other men and suddnely its a boundary for another dude? that man would be absolutely in the wrong for putting any pressure on her. simply leave. he has his self respect and will find someone who will find him attractive enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaIf those boundaries was enforced with other men, even the attractive ones. i know im getting the full desire. but if its just boundaries for me? Time to move on. no coercing needed. just cut off. and the man keeps his self respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:59 AM |
| 0 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaso then you agree with my posts then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:57 AM |
| 6 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenado you actually have any argument, other than "ive never heard of" thats not an argument, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:54 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaonstent matters, for sure. she didn't consent, so he keaves to be weoth someone who finds him attractive enough to consent. simple as. overall better relationship in my experience, every woman isnt, until the man infront of her she actually likes and maddly attracted to will be down for alot more than any average joe she was with previously. Funny how suddenly we are blind that women are alot more open to sex and things in other debate posts. it doesnt happen. but in another posts, its obvious w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:49 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaFull desire, or move on. some men accept less. men with higher standards want the best or nothing at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:43 AM |
| -1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaNo, the idea that "getting sex early" is the only barometer of true attraction can be known and understood before ever having a relationship, or even going on a date. You have yet to explain how this is a concept that is gatekeep behind having a relationship with someone. Two factors is that men love sex, AND women make sex something men have to put in alot of effort for to get, since the mainstream of red pill. men compared notes and see that women act, behave and "engage" sex with certain men.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:41 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomena8 billion people in the world doesnt erase pattern recognition. women act different with men their attracted to is not some anecdotal experience. its just human nature. statue fetish is such a very rare thing. and also since alot of statues are naked and attractive, peole can feel aroused despite not having a statue fetish. we only question if this expectation is healthy and reasonable is because its from men to women and alot of men have it. Thats the only reason its questioned. mind you one of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaNot my experience, but sure. we dont need her to say it. and expecting most women to say it is just dumb. men who dont know any better dont know how. sometimes its a bit easy sometimes its hard. and rarely they are just honest. the best ones. but then again, its better to assume and be wrong, than to be right and already have lots of time and money spent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:21 AM |
| 5 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaif its a hard now, with every man, FIne, nobody here is debating that. he can still leave if its a no with this man specifically, when shes done it with all others, he should definitely leave, and find someone who is more attractive than him. its easy to frame him as not caring about her one bit. But what about what he wants? or does that suddenly not matter? women boundaries definitely do bend alot depending on the man in front of her, its the whole reson why certain men gets sec on the first d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaby your logic, a person that keeps getting robbed where on the street their home is on. they should just get the whole fuckin secret service to walk them home | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:07 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenadont need to be. you cant fake enthusiasm, forever, or any other personality trait. i have my ways, other men have their ways, in the end, its all about getting what we want or leaving. its certainly better than being the man that doesn't know any better..... but the men around you do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:06 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaI dont need to convince anything. women act differently with men depending on how they are attracted to them in the dating context. am i wrong? if not, then you agree then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:04 AM |
| 7 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaObviously women arent going to say this, ironicaly if its something they arent ashamed of or shy about, they will gladly tell the world. Different men have different ways of doing it. its better to assume and be wrong than to be right and have already been a while with a woman who half ass desires you. you’d honestly be happy with whatever she gives you Any women says this to you, run for the hills immediately, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:02 AM |
| 9 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaYou dont speak for all women, attraction does change what a woman will do. or suddenly women arent enthusiastic to be with attractive men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:00 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenanot wanting to rip apart your face and staple it back on and move to a country where it likely not going to work is an excuse apparently. You take accountability for the stuff you can control, not what you cant, Your version of accountability is very extreme and not everyday things, let alone afford. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaI do, nobody cant fake enthusiasm forever. nor personalities, lifestyle ect. it like diarrhea, you can push it back or hold it, but its gotta come out one way or another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:51 AM |
| 4 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaYour no different than her husband, you dont care what her past is as long as your getting the sex you want. Some men have higher standards that go further than that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaWe dont care about nor your specific experiences, even if every women on this subreddit upvoted and commented agreeing with you and their experiences doesnt change the fact that yal; are a very small group of women on a shadowbanned sub reddit. We can use your "insecurity" or we can use my "high standards" doesnt change the fact that alot of men dont want to accept lesser | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaA very extreme solution to avoid saying his unattractiveness is not his fault. half of all plastic surgery doent even look right and is obvious as you age. You also assume that ust because you move to a short place, women sre going to desire short men, and it doesnt work like that. its just that if their country men is short, thats all they have to pick from. women on here for sure love using extremes to prove/justify their takes. because when you operate in the normal everyday circumstances the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaof course its ok if the man is ok wil dead fish sex. The goal is desire. if thats just a woman who just wants to starfish all the time even with him. he can choose if he wants that. The goal is not settling for a lesser treatment, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaI have reached a level where i do not have too. and i will not put my personal life on this reddit. actually a big problem on here is people personalize these debates too much. and giving much or too much info | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:33 AM |
| -5 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaIf he's not those men then why would he be treated like those men Irrationality on men's part. Ecactlyyy. so again, he cant leave something he doesnt know is lesser experience, because he isnt getting sex early. Your post is complaining about men being vilified for leaving relationships with women they don't think are sexually attracted enough to them. My rebuttal is they should have chose better in the first place. If the relationship was good enough for them to enter, and nothing changed about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:32 AM |
| 3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaNo incorrect and not the point at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenayou cannot take accountability ofr something thats not your fault, height and facial attractiveness is something that is not earned its given. and these are the top two of three of what women look for in a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:25 AM |
| -2 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaBecause all women want attractive men, The only difference is that they actually have access to those men, because men have a low standard for sex. were most men dont have access to attractive women. were not talking about dating, were talking about women's enthusiasm. changing from man to man, and avoid being the beta bux, or the safe guy after her fun years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaIm not saying my way, but i dont really need to do this anymore tbh. But like most men, there is no coercion that women on here make it seem, just men judging iof theya re getting what they want. if not then leaving | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:18 AM |
| 6 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaokaayy Yall "engage" early with a small group of men. If men paying for dates is supposed to have a relationship to "giving out sex as early as possible" then these men should stop bothering women for relationships and just engage with sugar babies. You missed my point. If a men are still paying for most of these dates. and if he is. he needs to find out if a woman completly desires him, not for safety after her fun years. My posts is just one aspect of many such situations. He can't know this b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:15 AM |
| -7 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaattractiveness. That simply the only reason. But women here for some reason want to sit here and act like sexual coercion is anywhere near the majority of times is crazy and they dont have anything to back it up. unfortunately, men cant get taller, nor better faces. but there are steps to prevent him from endong up or even starting in a situation witha woman like this. hence red pill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:10 AM |
| -3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenai see this is some sort of reverve of the "pick better" argument men tell women, sorry, its still not the same, women have all the options so it makes senmse they are chose to choose better. most men dont have options to just get and go from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:07 AM |
| -3 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaHow many women are out there Really being coerced? whats the stat? its ridiculous. Most of the time. he was just simply more attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenalike i said, some men have their ways, i have mine, some men dont even know any better at all. and live their lives ignorant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:04 AM |
| -4 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaalot of men simply dont know anmy better yet, sometime they never know at all. or its too late. women dont give out sex early, which is a yellow flag she doesnt find you attractive also.but if he did. its a green light she finds you attractive and you can see what the sex is like. women diont give out sex early as possible, and its usually after dates on the mans dollar. He cant leave something he doesnt know is a lesser experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:03 AM |
| -9 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaevery man have a different way of finding out. some dont figure it out at all. and just live their lives in a blissful ignorance. saome men know and just dont want to hear it. Hell sometimes Theyll be honest and tell you. those are the best ones, so he can honestly know what hes dealing with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:00 AM |
| 5 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenadifferent men have different standards. sounds like your husband just didnt want to hear it, and just happy he is getting sex. but for men with higher standards, thats absolutely something we look into, as your partner is a reflection of you in a way, and we see how your husband is. no man wants to be the betta bux, or the "safe guy" and thats the standard your husband has, so its on him and he accepted it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 01:57 AM |
| -13 | Most of the time, Women wont do certain things is not because of coercion, Its because of attraction. and Using extremes to answer tor the whole phenomenaWomen WILL have sex with them. but lets not sit here and pretend all sex is the same. enthusiasm adventurous, eager, and sexually open Matters and it affects sex completely, If your having ok/great sex, but the man before her was getting the bells and whistles every time? Were going to sit here and say every time he just coerced her into mind blowing sex? in reality, he was just simply more attractive, thus any man in his right mind would leave for a woman who desires him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 01:51 AM |
| 0 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.is abusive bad? should abusive men have acees? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 01:55 AM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.not relevant nor the same thingsm not sure hwat your getting at, its nobodys fault an abuser is an abuserm but noene of these people are fucking him. women hare, your weirdly defending abusive men to fuck for some reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:32 PM |
| 8 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.abusive men should be incels. but they arent dont know why your defending haveng sex with abusers so much, definitely proving alot of black pill red pill guys right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:27 PM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.are you saying abusive men should be having sex and getting with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:16 PM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.men are responsible for their behavior, doesnt change the fact these men should have been incels, but thats not what happened is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:09 PM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.funny how women can sense when a man is something and cant from man to man,, simply the difference is because these men were attractive and tall. so she "missed" them. all you said was a justification, women are still at full responsibility for the bad abusive men not being incels, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:08 PM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.i didnt even say selected men are bad, i specifically pointed out terrible men, bvad men and the men women complain abusers ect. and women are at fault because these men should be incels. read slowly next time. all youve done is show your incomprehension, otherwise feel free to quote me where i said selected men are bad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 02:04 PM |
| 8 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Their allowed to be angry, you cannot tell them how to feel, they want to be desired, and not a beta bux, though i dont agree with lashing out. plus like i said, how they act isnt a problem, they just werent tall and attractive enough for women to let it slide, we know this because terrible tall attractive men exist and date very well. also, if your giving the man a "chance" then you shouldnt have beenw ith him in the first place, that seem like a beta bux situation. women wouldnt describe going… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:56 PM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.i didnt say that either, once again, your still moralizing unselected men. they didnt get selected because their short and/or unattractive.not because of their attitude, attraction is not a moral thing. your just putting words in my mouth. and responded to what you wanted me to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:52 PM |
| -5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.i run a company ma'am, men report to me every week, tf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:33 PM |
| 7 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.derailing my posts a bit but. i didnt moralize unselected men as good or bad. you made quotes as if i said that and i didnt. Their attitudes arenmt the problem, they simply werent just tall and attractive enough. like two women here already said that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.wht are incels saying thats so wrong? if its incorrect ill say their incorrect, but ive only seen them say what your very first comment was. which didnt have any nuance at all. cut and dry attractive or not. unslected or slected. the only difference is men get flak for the very same thing you said. women only want tall men. Is that not true? wom,en only want attractive men. is that not true? al women want a tall atytractive men. is taht not true where is this nuance that incels suddenly are miss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:15 PM |
| 2 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.I guiess saying terrible men shouldnt have sex or children is me trying to control ig. your saying they should? most of your post is just wrong, projection or derailing, i get your bluepill but defending abusers is craxy, damn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:07 PM |
| 8 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.im not sure why we dance around it on PPD tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 01:05 PM |
| 6 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.See now your going against your first comment. andre tate, clav, have all said thing aabout women that are pretty much the same. m,matter of fact they likely got it from them. they say the same stuff. clab have women literally women all around him so the answer to so incels "hating women" isnt an issue, its just that they werent tall and attractive while hating women? is is that they werent tall and attractive enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:53 PM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.yep and everything before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:28 PM |
| 6 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.ah, there is is, so incels "hating women" isnt an issue, its just that they werent tall and attractive while hating women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:26 PM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Because women are the selectors. and choose which men gets acess to sex and children. bad men are responsible for being bad men, but they should have been incels if women dont like bad men so much. why arent they incels is my questiion to you, and why isnt this a womens fault for giving him sexual access? because how else he got it if he was supposed to be an incel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:25 PM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.all women want to do those things, they just simply cant for a myriad of reasons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:20 PM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.you said you wanted examples of some red flags. i said the same red flags that women apparently see from red pill men and incels from a mile away. My point was that i cannot give you an example because womens "red flags" isnt about behavior, its just a looks barrier. not a behavioral one. they dont wave red flags, "red flags" only pertains to how the man looks. are we on he same page? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:19 PM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.ok then you agree. any terrible men having sexual aces of any children is womens fault then. good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:11 PM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.do you have an actual rebuttal or are we done here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:09 PM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.as opposed to actual jerks getting kids and children and sex? i posted a lik below wbout hoe 48 percent of child predators have been married to women before. where in any of my posts i said unselected men are better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:07 PM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.what?? Im not sure what your not getting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Your talking as if were only talking about hook ups. were also tolking about relationhsiups marrige. all of this is included, all of it is women's fault. these men should be incels if women dont like abusers so much. but thats not what happened did it? im not going into your edit because it derives the convo from my topic, make your own posts about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.lol, just concede bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 12:00 PM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.That was NOT your argument nor what you were asking. lol just concede. you were heavily implying thats its fine either way what that question you asked. and now you dodged my question to yours. and making a whole new argument lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:59 AM |
| 0 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.they arguments switch from posts to posts and its hilarious. and other women blindly upvote them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:55 AM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.ah, so you believe these men should? is what your implying? or are you saying its fine if they do if their tall and attractive enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:50 AM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.hook ups, dating, personality, if women dont like abusive men, these men should not have sexual acess. but thats not what happened is it? also, i do not care what you do nor what you have going on. you havent made an argument yet. because im just going to take this as you agree terrible men having kids ans sex is womens fault. ims till waiting on an actual rebuttal. and not personal feelings about you nor me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:49 AM |
| 7 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.do you have an actual argument or...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:45 AM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.we agree. women are still responsible for these men having any sexual acess. because i for sure thougfht women dont like abusive men. Women are responsible for this man having any sexual acces much more any kids. He should be an incel. but thats not what happened did it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:45 AM |
| 0 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.that the point. The Red flags are bullshit. from the incels to the tal attractive man women dont care. about any of these "red flags" if the man is tall and attractive enough. and this goes for most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:42 AM |
| 6 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.But you havent showed me why im wrong? outside what you personally feel about my posts. make an argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:39 AM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.men ARE responnsible for being abusers. abusers should be incels. then they wouldnt have annyone to abuse. women are to blame, because women choose which man gets acess to sex and relationshiops. That 48 percent of men should be non existent of at least several times lower, were talking Child sex offenders here, women are responsible for these men having any sexual acess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:37 AM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.them maybe you should talk with your fellow women becvause they dont think the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:34 AM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.all women could. and want to. tall and attractive and terrible is better than average. its only a matter of women admitting this. its just that women cannot lock down these men for many reasons or change them. also my posts was nothing about me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:33 AM |
| 14 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.The same red flags that red pilled men and incels show that apparently weomen can sense from a mile away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.patriarchy? the pay gap? saying its systemic and men help and benifit fromm it? women dont say that now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:30 AM |
| 6 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.didnt say it was. so you agree with my posts then. as well as many other implications | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:29 AM |
| 7 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Agin, none of this refutes my posts. This is a justification. Regardless if this man is te tallest and most attractive men in existense. IF hes terrible she should nhot have been given sexual acess. just like incels? i thought women hate abusers? manipulators? ect? your only admitting that women dont mind the fact that women dont mind if hes tall and attractive enough. which women argue here vehemently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:28 AM |
| -1 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.OH? people arent responmsible for what other people do this ironic sincee the same thing doesnt apply to the patriacrhy, or abusing women, or this so called pay gap? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:24 AM |
| – | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Your Trying to be philosophical. But nothing you said, goes against what my OP is. Trying to play that "what is moral" card. attraction cant be moral. Abusers are Morally wrong, why are they getting sexual access if they are bad men? women are soley responsible for these men getting sexual access. You want to know whats also morally bad? child sex offenders Yet - 48 percent of child sex offenders were either currently married or had been married in the past your post was not a retue, but a justi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:20 AM |
| 10 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Not their fault hes bad, its their fault he has any sexual access. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:08 AM |
| -2 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Good thing were not talking about you specifically or your friends. doesnt change the fact that women are still mostly responsible. as they are the sexual selectors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:04 AM |
| 4 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Ages 18–29: 32% are single - which is still low, and this is even only this high due to other factors like half of men in this age group not asking women out. Ages 30–49: 19% are single Ages 50–64: 29% are single (often by outliving male spouses) Ages 65 and older: 49% are single ( also often driven by outliving male spouses - Pew Research center where is this big rise in single women who are done with men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 11:01 AM |
| 5 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.4b is a small fringe group that blew up after trump won and immediately became irrelevant after a few months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:53 AM |
| 9 | Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility.Where did i assume unselected men are any better or any worse? Men arent anywhere near the perfect liars women want to believe. its simply more believable to say that she ignored things because she liked him, so the outcome is mostly her fault. we can still have examples from men who openly have went against women rights and say bad things about women, tate, clav, trump, ect i can go on. none of these men are incels | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 10:52 AM |
| -3 | Historically "traditional" men didn't want their wives to work because they didn't want them to be financially independent.women WANT men to provide for them. its not like this is something only men want. women do NOT want to date a man who makes less than them, equal is fine, higher is the goal. Even financially independant women. decades of feminism doesnt change what women find attractive. protection, provision and tall and attractive. Think about it. paying for dates, opening doors, buying flowers, ect these are biological checkboxes disguised as "nice" things for a woman. Check boxes that show a male is worthy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 10:01 AM |
| 3 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.men have standards, but its so wide and varied it doesnt really restrict any woman from dating and relationships. tall ,short, broke, rich, smart, dumb, ugly or attractive women all can have a very good shot. women may have it harder than most women, but never harder than her male counterpart ever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:36 AM |
| 6 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Your operating from the fact, that women use the word incel or loser in the most corrrect way. The men i just mentioned were also called losers and incels. despite their abundant of women they have and had jealous? nice reach, dont hurt your back. i just like debating. you didnt engage my posts directly, your first response doesnt even make sense with what i was talking about in my posts. and EVEN YOUR responses doesnt even make sense with what your saying? how do you know what people lives are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:33 AM |
| 5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.im saying they are bigger losers than any incel is. you have biology, dating dynamics, and very lax requirements on your side. and men dont. wehich makes these women much bigger losers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:15 AM |
| 3 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Nobody is saying women should just take any relationship or that all available options are good ones. The point is about access and filtering, not guaranteed optimal outcomes. Even when you narrow it to “good relationships,” the structure does not change. Men still have to generate attention, initiate, and compete to enter consideration in the first place. Women still receive more inbound attention and then filter for compatibility, intent, and effort level. Both sexes can struggle to find the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:11 AM |
| 5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Women are the bigger failures. thats the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:05 AM |
| 7 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.this is ironic considering women for the last hundreds of years made their problems everyone elses. not all but alot. essentially complained until men gave them what they wanted. bitterness, and mysogony to women doesnt stop men from having sex, elon musk, tate, clav, donald trump, ect. so lets cut out the misogyny pipe line. if a man is tall and attractive enough or power, these things are void. a person who can see inconsistencies, and logical breakdown wouldnt have made a comment like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 04:04 AM |
| 0 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.again so whats unnatractive here for these women that excluded them from having said options? fat women have options? terrible women have options, a woman thats a conjoined twin have two husbands for both. Women with small or big breast have options. ass or no ass. smart. dumb, tall or short. women arent anywhere near as restricted by their genetics as men are, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:59 AM |
| 3 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.ironic considering you just accused me of being cruel, making fun of them gleefully, that i get excited by it. i said get out your feelings because your making it seem like im just a villain in line in making fun of these women, i for sure don't see you in the mix when the same thing is being said to incels from women, cue telling me how its somehow different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:57 AM |
| 2 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.All of this was just a by product of womens choices. men stopped, because women said so. just because they arent approached doesnt mean the men she walk by everyday didnt want her. you as well. and if men are going to oexperience harsh rejection. or maybe not harsh, but just constant rejection from women even below on the attractiveness scale. why not just only approach attractive women? women made this bed. but we all have to lie in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:52 AM |
| 0 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.because what makes them unnattractive is actually their fault. in a field where men have to go miles for success. women only have to walk down the block. the women your talking about failed to walk down that block | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:46 AM |
| 2 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.no its not, women are not held to any strict genetic factors that decides wether they get sex and relationships. fat, skinny, tall, short ugly to attractive. all these women have no problem having male attention. being short alone as as a cuts women into you by 85, becasuse women en masse do not want a short man. then you have to take out women much o;der than you, much younger than you, taken ect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:43 AM |
| -1 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.the posts iof my opinion and there are people here disagreeing with me. Get out your feelings. they should be recognized as bigger losers thn incels. but thats not whats happening, thats the debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:39 AM |
| 5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.How do you know for sure what MEN say in general? you talk to every single one of us? no women choose which man gets access to sex and relationships, because women are the picker sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:38 AM |
| 5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.because ALL men want sex. but to sit here and say that women have minimal offers for relationships while men that just want a hook up its just wrong flat out. The reason why men say that is because getting hook ups as a man is a very small group that dont have to spend money, time ect on a woman. they just look at them and want to fuck, pinacaccle of desirabilty. if women didnt make it such a rare exclusive club men wouldnt value it more. and no man wants to be the safe guy after his woman is do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:35 AM |
| 2 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Your response shifts into a broader critique of expectations in relationships, but that does not address the actual claim being made. Acknowledging that women now have more financial independence and more ability to refuse relationships also does not negate the underlying structure of dating dynamics, it just changes how exit options work. And staying single by choice is not what is being discussed here. The topic is people who want relationships but are not being selected for them, and whether … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:29 AM |
| -5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.vitriol is a reach. but they should be recognized as bigger losers than incels | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:28 AM |
| 3 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.all your fault. men its often not heir fault | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:28 AM |
| 2 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Arent you the same men constantly spewing out that you shoud never marry women and only pump and dump them? when did i say that? Arent you the same people who abandon their wives and leave them for dead with childern to go to other countries? when the HELL did i say that? Arent you the same people who avoid taking accountability and blame women to "choose better'? did say this because women are the choosers with all the options Arent you the same people who says you could just take away womens r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:27 AM |
| 6 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Whos "men"? and just because a certain amount of men say it doesnt mean it affects women dating lives on any level. men say they donmt want to date or be with women with a high body count. but just the fact she has a high body count means she has no problem getting and being with men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:21 AM |
| 1 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.You are misreading the structure of the argument. “Women choose” does not mean women control all outcomes or that selection is a one step binary where everything is decided perfectly and permanently. It refers to the initial filtering stage being more female driven because of inbound attention differences. From there, outcomes still vary. Being selected for commitment, being prioritized, being retained, and being valued long term are all separate outcomes. A woman can filter from more attention … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:17 AM |
| 8 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Wait your seriously blaming men for not dating on their level? men? because if im correct one gender has access to alot of male attention anywhere. and very possibly several levels above. and then use that as a base line for what she can get. because men have low standards for sex. btu sure. men are the ones who dont date on their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:13 AM |
| 4 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.so whats unnatractive here for these women that excluded them from having said options? fat women have options? terrible women have options, a woman thats a conjoined twin have two husbands for both. Women with small or big breast have options. ass or no ass. smart. dumb, tall or short. women arent anywhere near as restricted by their genetics as men are, these women are the largest failures than incels will ever be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:10 AM |
| 5 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.You didn’t point out a logical inconsistency, you just kept redefining “chosen” as total control over all outcomes My argument never required that It required only that women generally have higher baseline attention and filtering power, while still not always getting the outcome they want in terms of commitment or retention Nothing about that was changed or “fixed” in my reply. You just chose not to engage that distinction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:04 AM |
| 7 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Women love to make it seem like they have is men that just want sex. then trying to use this to as an argument that theyu are in the same position as thier male counterpart. The men that dont just want sex grows in poportion to men that just want sex. and thi is a weak arg8ument considering on PPD many people here have said their relationships started from sex on the first date or a hook up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 03:01 AM |
| 4 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.Your argument is not that women control every outcome or that men are “chosen men” It is that there are different layers of selection in dating and women generally operate with higher baseline inbound attention and initial filtering power, while men disproportionately face being filtered out before any real selection even happens Nothing about that creates a contradiction. “Women filter” does not mean women always get the outcome they want. It means they filter from a higher starting pool, and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:58 AM |
| – | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.if your a man, it likely wasnt your fault. if your a women, it likely is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:56 AM |
| 9 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.No one said male failure is virtuous. The argument is about baseline access and selection dynamics. Men being able to “choose” from a wide range of women does not change the fact that most men are still not being chosen by women in the first place, especially not for commitment or long term selection Listing extremes does not change the structure of the dating market. It just mixes willingness with desirability. A man can accept options he does not prefer and still be unselected by the people he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:55 AM |
| 4 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.That is just moving the goalposts. Yes ugly women exist and yes bad personality can hurt their chances. None of that changes the point. The point is that women usually start with more attention, more options, and more baseline interest than men do, so when a woman still ends up unchosen that is a bigger failure relative to her position. A man being invisible is ordinary. A woman being invisible is a much sharper sign that something is wrong. And no one said life is only about finding a partner. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:53 AM |
| 9 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.semantic dodge Women choosing in dating does not mean women control every outcome. It means they usually do the first filtering because they get more attention and more options. Men still control a lot of the actual outcome like commitment seriousness and whether they stick around So yes women can absolutely be unchosen in the only sense that matters. Not chosen for commitment. Not prioritized. Not kept. Not locked in. Having more options is not the same thing as getting the result you want You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:52 AM |
| 8 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.it is if you want it and you fail to get that, most people want it. and if a man fails to get it. he failed, but there is no shame in it and shouldnt be looked that way because its not his fault. For women, with everything going for them and still fail. its compleptly her fault and she is a much bigger failure than any incel could be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:49 AM |
| 3 | There's a difference between "Women Are Wonderful" bias and "Women should be wonderful to me" bias.you missed the point but ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:31 AM |
| 2 | There's a difference between "Women Are Wonderful" bias and "Women should be wonderful to me" bias.yes it is. instead of saying his genetics simply fucked him over. its blaming him for a personality trait that he most likely didnt have. making his faliure his fault. especially since we knopw women dont mind a misogynist if hes tall, attractive. it was his genetics, not his morals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:22 AM |
| 3 | There's a difference between "Women Are Wonderful" bias and "Women should be wonderful to me" bias.This is just wrong., "maybe if he didnt hate women" i can bring up more or are we just going to pretend this doesnt exist because it goes against your narrative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 02:08 AM |
| 1 | There's a difference between "Women Are Wonderful" bias and "Women should be wonderful to me" bias.This wasnt why this needed to be said. women constanly moralize these mens unability to be selected. saying something hes doing wrong or whatever. then we highlight how abusers and women haters get picked all the time. in short the unselected men were just too short, ugly ect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:49 AM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalsorry, [ep[;e canm absolutely feel lonliness not having a partner. i can biring up stats if you want. thats just blantantly incorrect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:47 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYou can feel lonely...becaus eyour not in a romantic relationship. like i said, you cant date your friends or family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:43 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalwomen date up and equal just like you said. a 2 who is having sex with 5 and 6s. is not going to ferl like 2 is she? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:38 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equali said all risk are not issues. reading is fundemantal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:36 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalfamily relationships cannot replace relationships. nor can friends. this such a cop out. and derailing my OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:29 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYoi have to prove that claim, full stop. thats a huge claim especially of something so heinous happening so often | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:28 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualExusee for thinking quotations are quoting something. my bad apparently. my tone didnt even suggest thatt lol. keep reaching, please quote wher ethe "tone" gives that off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:22 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalthats the point of a debate. your suppoosed to prove me wrong. i can bring up dating ap stats, sex stats, marrige stats, im not dodging any stats like you are, take your pick | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:59 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualThis study i sto flimsy for me and doesnt seem reliable in any way. it was a link to another study and it keep just saying "our study" no demographic, no age, no height, no income nothing just "men" on a survey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:49 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalrare, most women have no problem getting dates and relationships, an outlier on proves my point. your in a small minority, not in the majority, and yet still you have so much despite it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:45 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalthis just proves my posts point. we agree then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:43 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalim saying your fear isnt happening anywhere near on a statistical level to be used in as a claim in a debate. but but all means be precautious of lightening when you go out. doesnt make it any more true that it doesnt really happen. you don't care about statistics because you dont have any. simple as that. becaus if i made a posts saying men experience more sexual assult women would have no problem writing phd level analsys with sources. whch is obvious becuase that claim is wrong. were done her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:41 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalall this did was prove my point. im not sure if your disagreeing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:32 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualFinding a partner or even a hookup is a challenge. For everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:31 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equali ever saud nobody understand mens "suffering" lol i simply said women dont have any problems dating. and provided the reason why. comprehension skills | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:26 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualDates put women at a higher safety risk than a regular situation, you are at a higher risk of being drugged and assaulted. Men don’t go on a date having to worry about this. So ye I Willis say safety is an issue and not Just a regular precaution. you have to prove this is a statustical, problem on average, because risk doent mean issue, theres a risk you get struck by lightning. but is lightning an issue? no. ou agree to do something doesn’t mean you don’t have issues related to the experience. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:25 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equaland their free to debate me and ask for stats, which they have done, what makes you any different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:24 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equali need the study that says women on dates on average experience rage and sexual abuse on dates, But what about having sex with a woman that’s passed out from drinking? Or a date ignoring when you say no? Or getting really pushy and not respecting the no? Or consenting to sex but telling them to stop and they don’t? you have to prove any of this happens on dates to a significant degree. otherwise i will not acknowledge this. saying any large group does x needs a proof. and im not letting it slide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:12 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalnow apparently we dont care about statistics. which is convient because it allows people to say whatthey want to say with out proof wich mind you you still didnt provide. risk doesnt automatically equal an issue, for example. theres a risk you get struck by lightning. but its not an issue because very very very very few people been struck by lightning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:10 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYou still havent proved your original claim. funnyu how the red pill is just losers making up stuff and now here your using it as a prove of your claim. women switch their narrative frokm debate to debate so much its funny, were done here, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:07 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualTheres no bigger truth than a statistical [paper from, a reliable source. in any other debate women pretty much whip them out damn near in their first comment. but you nor any woman on this thread did it. because there is not statistic that say woman on average are experiencing sexual abuse, and rape on dates. its was sad and straw grabbing attempt because women couldnt say they were having any dating issues. and you couldnt either, were done here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:04 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYou think men get pursued? perhaps a small group of men sure but then you havent said what dating problems women experience, its not equal nor different, it exist for one side and simply doesnt another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:59 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalwhats Low quality? are you saying all chads are top quality? and if their all not top quality, then why do they not have any problems getting women? why doesnt bad quality stop him from getting what he wants? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:55 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualDifferent, equal, whatever, women have no dating issues. thats my claim. not just sex, relationships as well. its not different, women have none | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:53 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualI asked you what results meant when it came to sex for women. i said dating, hookups and relationships are the results. and women have no problem with any of them. and im not going to keep saying this to you. you shifted to topic to sex. my OP was about dating issues. dating for sex/relationships/situationshiops/FWB, whatever. are all reasons to date. and women do all of them, also risk doent equal an issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:51 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalim still waiting on them the tell me what is their dating issue. because she just proved that they dont have any | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:48 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalbecause saying a big group does x. requires proof. and its not something you can just casually accept in a debate. you cant do it in race, you cant do it in economic standing, you cant do in by class, looks, ect. what makes you think itrs any different here. or you thought agreeing with mass damaging statements about men would be so easily accepted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:47 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalmaking sure your safe isnt a issue. its just a precaution. men and women should do that on dates. getting swipes from uncompatible men isnt a dating issue that prevents women from enetering sating, nor is ghosting. the rest you mentioned is something women agreed to do. such as dates, hook ups, ect. and dipping after a hook up isnt an issue because she agreed to have sex with him. and he isnt obligated to stay with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:44 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWell. you are not doing a good job proving my posts wrong. what issues do women have on dating, because men certainly do have the monopoly on isuess. what issues women have that comes anywhere near close on average of what men have to do and over come? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:39 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualStill doesnt make it a dating issue. because it doesnt stop women from dating. your not proving my OP wrong, because my claim wasnt that women dont have to take certain measures. its that they have no issues in common everyday dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:36 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualBecause its an extreme. because i have asked several women in this debate to provide claims that on average women are getting raped and sexually abused on dates. ON AVERAGE. and they havent. ALso i was ready for women to bring up this in this debate. FOr normal people dating. women have no issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:33 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualThen prove it. if its so average. you got a link that says women on average when on dates are experiencing the things you said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:32 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalwhere does the red pill say that? is there some book or meeting that you go to where they say that? or did you take one mans extreme comment as something most red pill men believes. otherwise your going to have to show men where this is a common believe among red pill men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:30 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalthats very convient that theres no point in linking a study. i could ask women. how can i prove that their not lying? stretching the truth? all the women in my life found their partners really young. my dad was my moms first partner. soo how biased my view is? thats why i dont use it in debates. i could be proven wrong if theres hard statistical data that says women on average on dates are getting sexually abuses. but you dont want to provide that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:29 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWhat dating issues do they have outside of looking for a specific man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:22 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalits for sure not. "I don't have access to a sexual partner" becaus ethats my claim women dont have dating issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:21 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualMost women are looking for chads, can they lock down a chad? maybe not men rejected for not doing the basic stuff is a minority id say. if your 6'5 and attractive, women arent passing you over for unwillingness to do basic stuff. which revels whats actually important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:21 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWhi8ch all comes down to who women pick, and they have an avundant of options. so they dont have any dating issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:17 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWhat issues do women have in dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:15 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalof course. you have all the options, and all the personal agency, you get personal responsibly for when it goes wrong. This aint the 1950s when dad was picking suitors for his daughter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:15 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualThe claim, is that women doint have any dating issues. thats a whole different topic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:13 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWomen are usually seen as prey anything to back this up? Having bad sex isn’t because the dude wasn’t hot enough. Physical attractiveness helps with attraction it doesn’t say whether the sex will be good or not. Not all women do hookups. And some of the ones that end up doing hookups didn’t go into it with just a hookup in mind. women dont have problems in hook ups or relationships. they dont have dating issues. they simply just cant get the cream of the crop. Like a billionare, "having too much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:11 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualThey brought this up in a discussion we were talking about normal dating. They brought up rape. so now they have to prove thier claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:08 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalprove in dating that average women experiences rape on average | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:07 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equal100% of us have experienced more than once sexual abuse from men You need to prove this. this is a seruious claim that women on average are getting raped and abused. otherwise i will not take it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:07 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalfunny how women simultaneously, are not a monolith but speak for every women. how do you know "every woman in existence knows this is true"? you couldnt bring up a source that says women on average gets raped. abused, or boundaries pushed. you need to prove sucha extreme claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:06 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalagain were talking about average dating, not extremes such as rape, otherwise your going to have to prove rape is average in dating. anmd can be qualified as a frequent issue. also women will happily risk all these things if its for a man shes attracted to. which is their right. you focused on the sex part whic is so convient,. i also said relationsjips. which women vet more of. thats why i pointed all these out. women struggle with none of those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:04 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalso you agree then? i didnt blame women for mens dating issues. i simply said they dont have any. keep up on the topic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:59 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalwomen get options for everything. so sitting here trying to frame women as passive in a market where all the optoions the have is terrible doesnt work. for a specific man. a woman will gladly be anything you just listed out for a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:57 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalyour going to have to prove in dating that average women experiences rape on average | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:56 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalsource? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:55 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalthe point is not “all attention feels good.” the point is that women generally still participate in the dating market from a position of access and optionality, while many men struggle to participate at all. also, a lot of men are treated as interchangeable too. disposable worker, disposable boyfriend, disposable provider, disposable emotional support, disposable wallet, disposable body in war, disposable labor. the difference is men are usually told to be grateful for any attention at all becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:54 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYour going to have to prove this claim. otherwise i cannot accept that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:51 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equal,y point of my posts. is that women dont have dating "issues." they only have issues trying to get the cream of the crop then otherwise its easy. Men don’t choose who they have sex with? Makes no sense. Thats was a response to " Do you have any idea what it’s like for a woman to have sex?" as if its some thing women deal with. women choose to not have sex as we;;. that was apointless comment You didn’t answer the question. What’s the “results” portion of what you said sexually for women? results… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:51 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalrape in dating is not normal at all. you have to prove that. Rape is nowhere near average in dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:46 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualBecause it makes sense. women arent the club. dating is. and the effort is almost completely lobsided | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:44 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equal"real upset"? ok i guess. keep reaching yes we absolutely can see what dating is like on the other side. we dont need to get hit by a bus to know that getting hit by a bus will hurt like hell. People do often try to equalize them. Hell in one of my other posts it was a top comment eequalizing how much effort goes into dating. in dating women are the billionairs.. "what am i going to do with all this money?" is not an issue. and thats pretty much how women are in these topics what issues do women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:43 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualBecause bringing up rape is a extreme issue that doesnt happen at all on average in dating. when you need to bring up something as extreme as that to a topic. it doesnt help your point/ rape is very much an outlier in what happens in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:37 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualThank you. they only do iut to shut down any debate. they need to draw in extremes to have any solid ground in a debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:35 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalwhats is it like for women to have sex? well good thing they can choose who do. also i have said nothing about me personally, again blue pillars and women have that issue which personalizing every debate. results is anything you want dating to be. sex/ relationships/ situationships. women can get all easily, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:34 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualAverage women, can and do get options easily, and are not ever selected out. nor shut out from dating hookup are not less valuabe to women., their only less valuable with men outside of what shes attracted to. which proves my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:32 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equali knew this was going to happen, When you bring up rape. it shuts down any conversation we can have about dating that critisizes it from men. This is the go to to shut down any meaningful debate. were talking about normal dating here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:30 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equalits not incorrect. The effort for entry, to stay, to get results in sex/dating/relationships is nowhere near equal. but for some reason were pretending it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Men aging like fine wine is mostly a mytha low quality response. what about what i said was delusional. do women not want these things blue pill man? or are you going to tell me personality is all that matters blue pilled man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Men aging like fine wine is mostly a mythid say its moreso because the things that make us desirable doesnt go away with age. thats why we say we age better. of course assuming we somewhat take good care of ourselves. as we get older, were usually more established in our careers, which women like money. beards are usually fuller. experience, knknow where we are heading and where were going. a more mature look. as for women, it doesnt really work like that. because we like young or younger looking women, flawless skin, no saggy breast, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?its all about what men want from men's perspective. just like it is for women. i ,meant that thatsall that matters for men. men do not want to be a beta bux, want the women at her best. most attractive. and closest to first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 08:15 PM |
| 0 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?Of course. because how men and women approach dating is completely different. if asnything a women will like a man who has been around alot. its well proven preselction. and the man is desirable. for men its the opposite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 07:43 PM |
| 5 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysyour still arguing something he never said. he never said women should lower their standards. he just saying what the dating market is. women do have a alot of options. they just arent atttracted to them. its nowher near the same as a man who had no options. thats why men cant take female dating struggles seriously. wait so it works if players and abusers appear as nice guys. but it doeant work for nice guys. the only difference is just looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?because its all that matters in the dating market. if your not getting the full desire without your money or she is just looking to settle down after her fun years. thjat man needs to get tf out of there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't carebecause your mixing two different groups. one is saying how hard it is to get into dating because of features outside of his control. and the other is saying dont date because it doesnt really effect his options. both are valid. but this whole women dont date stuff is only just proving the red pill theories correct. women want the top or nothing. tbh men should do it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careok then. but women are gaslighting men that its their personality or whatever, its just that these men are not tall and attractive. men do not want to be the last option safe guy. full desire or nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 07:24 PM |
| 2 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.i know i know. amoral. i aint perfect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 08:10 PM |
| 4 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.because women still moralize unsucessful men not being selected., that whole personality bs. glad we agree. because your fellow women bellow dont agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 08:10 PM |
| 2 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.all women will only approach a small group of men, and its often the same men because thos e men have the qualities most women are after. tall, good looking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:47 AM |
| 7 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.again, only a small specific group of men have the choice of rejecting womne, overwhealmisng majprity of men, do not have the option to reject women because women never came onto them. what exactly is the other way men are rejecting women that somehow equalized this big imbalance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:34 AM |
| 6 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.this was a weird opinion piece, but either way. ok i guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:31 AM |
| 3 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.no. attraction is not one to one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:29 AM |
| 12 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.because most men, dont have women coming up to them asking them on dates, or approaching them. thats almost uniquely a womens experience. or a tall attractive mans experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:14 AM |
| 10 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.oh i mean women dating after forty. is very bitter. I think your just seeing aqnything that goes along with what you agree with. i guess we all do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:04 AM |
| 7 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.The point is that people try to moralize his faliure because hes been excluded out the market. when its not his fault. Also women wanting tall men is nowher near a minority. also. women dont want just taller, a 5'2 woman isnt going to think a man that 5'3 is on par with a 6' man because their both taller than her. your arguing something i didnt say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:02 AM |
| 3 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.oh excuse me Amoral. i aint perfect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:55 AM |
| 15 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.yes their are. go to the 4b reddit. dating over forty reddit. well basicallly any reddit sub that doesnt let men comment. conviently dont see things that goes against our narrative and see everything that goes along with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:49 AM |
| 12 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.you thing that theres and abundant of women who ENTHUSIASTICALLY looking to date short men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:34 AM |
| 9 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.where did i say any of this. or is this just your head canon on my posts. quote where i said anything like this please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:31 AM |
| 20 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Do believe the same when women bithc an complain about their problems? also theres a limit to how much you can improve. definitely with height and looks. its a very shitty thats not anyones fault. you cant just tell him to shut up and deal with it. very funny people hand out "pulll yourself up bby your bootstraps" advice when it comes to things that dont affect them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:29 AM |
| 3 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.good thing my posts wasnt about women thinking about incels. so thats irrelevant. none of this still doesnt disprove my point. its not a boogyman concept that the shorter and less attractive man you are the more likely you will not experience any relationships. its called sexual selection and natural selection is not nonsense sorry. perhaps to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:23 AM |
| 10 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.oh right. wel can you answer it? or take his spot in the debate? orrr were done here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:18 AM |
| 8 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.lol. you just did the same exact thing my posts was sbout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:17 AM |
| 11 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.ii was just saying even IF he said that its still correct. but fine letds go with a softer version. even if they say "dang i cant date im too short" you think the comments on his personality would stop because apparently theres an abundance of women out there who actually desire a short man? would they acknowledge that his shortness wil likely leave him out of the market? do you think the moralizing would cease? because he said it nicer? because even the nicer assumption implication that its wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:12 AM |
| 9 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.wveb if they say "dang i cant date im too short" you think the comments on his personality would stop because apparently theres an abundance of weomen out there who actually desire a short man? would they acknowledge that his shortness wil likely leave him out of the market? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:08 AM |
| 6 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Women do the same thing with incels ironically. because they are so dangerous. despite intimate partners being the leading cause of violence to women but anyway it doesnt disprove my poin because that man have lots of casual sex, and not from specific women either. theres enough of them that do it. just like how most men arent rapist yet women still are so cautious. also, it could be a situationship, or a FWB situation, and it would not be casual sex because its a form of relationship. and agree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:03 AM |
| 13 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Do women NOT want tall attractive men? Do women NOT often sleep or hook up with these men? if they are unable to get these men. do they NOT become become alot more lenient on standards for family or marrige? thus open more open to average men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:53 AM |
| 12 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Theres not plenty of women who fail to get selected. there women who fail to get selected by the men they want. two completely different things. I 98 percent of women have options easily. women who have horrible defects maybe, but even then there is a conjoined twins thats married to two differnt men. so. my posts was about unselected mens faliure to be selected is still moralized despite women choosing immorally. masny women still think these men are doing something wrong personally but persona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:49 AM |
| 13 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.where did i call anyone a beta bux? i said, is he? lets keep up. almso i think blue pillars and women have this problem with thinking the posts topic is anyway related to the poster. i think its a issue among yall. anyway. beta bux is just a short word for a phenomena. cause who want to keep saying the full thing. theres other words for this too. and do we really want to go down the route of judging people by the way they talk? racist, do the same. even Hitler did. or is that just fine in this i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:41 AM |
| 9 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.You’re making a statement that doesn’t have anything to do with your dating woes? most posts here people arent talking about themselves personaliiy. There are women here with boyfriends and husbands that make posts. about things in the dating market. this is just to derail the conversation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:32 AM |
| 5 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.still doesnt disprove my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:29 AM |
| 7 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.my point is that hes describing the dating market as it is. and i keep asking you what this heinous shit thats wrong? AND mind you this all hapeens when one dont say henious shit. "god i cant date, im too short" you think its still not going to bve an assumption about his personality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:26 AM |
| 20 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Attraction doesnt work like that. a 5'3 man is taller than a 5'2 woman, do you think that woman will view his height as desirable as a 6 foot man simply because hes taller than her? no. so that doesnt mean anything. and also saying these men from your anecdotal experience men simply have relationships is just not enough. whats the quality of these relationships? is he a beta bux? did she settle for him? is she even fucking him? your doing the same exact thing women complain that men are doing. m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:23 AM |
| 8 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.when did i say anything about me? i think bluepillers and women have a strong disability to not personalze the debate and focus on the conversation at hand. its gotta be some sort of issue. when did i say anything about me? do you think any discussion here is about people themselves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:16 AM |
| 7 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Again what about it is misogynistic and not true description of the dating market? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:11 AM |
| 9 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.ive already asked you a question. what exactly is incorrect or red pill conspiracy theories thats incorrect that doesnt happen in real life? is it a theory or is he describing the actual dating market? you just cant side step my question with one of your own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:09 AM |
| 8 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Height, face, attractiveness are the most deciding factors if a woman sees anything with you. personality matters. but to a much much less degree. women will fuck a man because hes 6'4 and attractive before they even know anything about him. however a 5'2 man will be excluded no matter how much of a great man he is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:06 AM |
| 12 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.They do. if their attractive and tall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:02 AM |
| 12 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Again. its do funny how women and blue pillers have to put words in your mouth to try to shift the argument Nothhing nor have i said it was wrong. again stop putting words in my mouth. if he isnt wrong that 99 percent of women want these men, as you are here saying. then his vent doesnt make him an misogynist woman hater. hes just describing the immoral dating market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:01 AM |
| 12 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.What exactly is not correct? and what of red pill is a theory? and not something women do in real life?, and can you sit here and say wpmen dont do those things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:59 PM |
| 8 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Women are not single because of their world views. and it is not a topic on here everyday. Most women regardless have an abundant oi options. and i do not thnk ive have ever seen that on here. Their single because of their standards. which is self inflicted. but their righ to have. You dont want to debate fine. no skin off my nose. but what were not going to do is sit here and act like when men describe the dating market and his inability to be genually desired and selected there isnt many women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:56 PM |
| 8 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.He could say both and he would be correct. its just describing the immoral dating market. he shouldnt be labeled incell blah blah for stuff women ACTUALLY ADMIT to doing and say they currently do. Do women NOT want tall attractive men? Do women NOT often sleep or hook up with these men? if they are unable to get these men. do they NOT become become alot more lenient on standards for family or marrige? thus open more opent o average men? Hes just describing the same exact moral dating market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:51 PM |
| 13 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.. notice how fast the conversation moves from “why are these men struggling” to “let me diagnose their moral defects.” that is the exact framing imbalance being criticized. nobody said misogyny should be ignored. the point is that the threshold for what gets labeled misogyny in these discussions is often just male frustration itself. a woman can vent about men, make sweeping statements, talk about exhaustion with dating, and people frame it as trauma, burnout, or lived experience. a man expresse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:45 PM |
| 20 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Again. its do funny how women and blue pillers have to put words in your mouth to try to shift the argument. where did i say anyone should do anything? Those things hes saying are what will consider him being labeled a mysogonistic incel. But im aking you is he wrong? do 99 percent of women want a man thats taller than her and is attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:42 PM |
| 16 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.And were told, Dating isnt moral, attraction isnt moral, and she doesnt have to be with unattractive men. Fine. With that same context. incels do not get that. They cant get genuine attraction from a woman becuase of women, and their standards. it isnt looked at through he same immoral lenses. Something HAS to be wrong with him. when simply women excluded him even if hes a good person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:39 PM |
| 9 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.That is easy to reconcile yes, the internet amplifies it, but the internet is also where people are most honest about the script. The point is not that every single man who says “I am single” gets called misogynistic. The point is that when men describe being rejected, overlooked, or unable to get traction, the conversation very quickly shifts from outcome to character. People do not just disagree with the complaint; they often treat the complaint itself as evidence of a flaw. That is the double… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:33 PM |
| 8 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.That is not a real objection, it is just a wording correction that still proves the point. Call it “selection,” call it “failure,” the asymmetry is the same women’s choices are framed as sovereign and protected from moral critique, while men’s outcomes are treated as open season for character judgment. That is exactly the double standard. Nobody is saying the processes are identical in form, only that the social treatment is lopsided. One side gets “preference,” “autonomy,” and “chemistry.” The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:32 PM |
| 27 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.The “something else he said” is usually just him voicing the rejection itself, talking about his lack of success, or pointing out the pattern. The second a man describes his dating reality honestly, people stop treating it like a circumstance and start looking for a character flaw to attach to it. That is the point. The moral judgment is not separate from the failure, it is the way the failure gets framed. Women can say “I’m not attracted to him” and that ends it. Men say “I’m unwanted” and sudd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:27 PM |
| – | The "she did it with her ex but won't with me" situation is typically valid for a man to be concerned about.Women are really lying in these comments. and ive been around quite a few players. women absolutely are absolutely down for a lot of things if they are atttracted to you. If she suddenly copmes across you and says "Thats in the past" then its a blaring red flag that you are the safe beta bux guy. When women say these responses you have think in terms of what they would gain from men believing it. Something inside of you is telling you its a red flag, you should be on your toes or ending it with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't carehow would you know they dont? You have to know female nature in order to be sucessful with women, or your going to be in the ringer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:52 PM |
| 7 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careThe men that are complaining dont get the chance to date. than the man who are saying dont date. two completply different groups. one is getting options one isnt. thats why the whole women are done dating stuff is changing nothing. because its simply doing what yall were doing before. regardless of how many of yall are dating. the men who get sex/relationships will conntinue to do so ( and chad) and the men who werent will continue to not do so just like before. nothing changed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careAnd here lies the problem, women just want chad to behave how they want them to behave. cause if i ask you what exactly what most men are lacking, your going to bring up traits that arent measurable. just to make women not appear shallow, what exactly are most men lacking that chad isnt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careThey dont need to personally call themselves red pill to follow most of what red pill does. every player, womanizer, cheater, at some level follow what the red pill says even when they dont know what it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careSomethimg is wrong with avoiding a betabux situation? i think its a common thing for guys to avoid dating the whore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:37 PM |
| 0 | There are 3 genders in dating: High-value men (HVM), Women, and Low-value men (LVM).... And it seems like the HVMs, and LVMs have more practical approaches than Women.some but nowhere near to cover up anywhere near a quarter of 30 percent of women without being generous. “Almost 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ+, most as bisexual,” - your source. their bisexual and not all of them are dating women. so they are all not exclusively dating women. this doesnt help your point as to where tens of millions of women are some how coupled up not with their younger counter part. your going to have to prove that these 30 percent of women whom most are bisexual are mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 11:25 PM |
| -1 | There are 3 genders in dating: High-value men (HVM), Women, and Low-value men (LVM).... And it seems like the HVMs, and LVMs have more practical approaches than Women.i mean. it happens. im not sure why we are acting like its not there. Taller more attractive men are more higher valuable in the dating market than the shorter unnatractive man. how we know? he gets more sex, mor relationships, more everything. for less than a quarter of the effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 10:48 PM |
| 1 | There are 3 genders in dating: High-value men (HVM), Women, and Low-value men (LVM).... And it seems like the HVMs, and LVMs have more practical approaches than Women.Women dont have to focus on finding success because they have options easily. women are blue pill because they have the dating market value that allows them to date as so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 10:45 PM |
| 3 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.your telling me that people who do those things just...stumble out out their radical thoughts? im gen z and were the most socially akward, isolated group yet. and ive never heard anyone go about saying suddenly their thoughts. like that. that still seems like a massive reach | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 09:37 PM |
| 10 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.its so funny how these incels are simultaneously socially isolated/akward shut ins and somehow being so extroverted enough to speak their opinions so freely to everyone as soon as they meet. i guess it depends on what narrative you want to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 09:20 PM |
| 6 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.Incels are easy to spot. They are like vegans. They will announce their views and thoughts and opinions whenever they arrive This sounds so unbelievably fake. like is they walkin up to people saying their incels? "Oh hello. my name is jake. i fuckin hate women. their all sluts and goldiggers.their only rightful place is in the kitchen, pregnant and barefoot........ anyway who you got winning the finals?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 09:13 PM |
| 9 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.incel, member of an online subculture of primarily heterosexual men who identify as being unable to have romantic or sexual relationships.- literally the first line of it its not a mindset. its a state of being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 09:06 PM |
| 4 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.we use these two examples of attractiveness and height in men to make conclusions and observations based on what women actually respond to. and how much they will take or give a man according to where he lands.. nobody is ignoring or forgetting average men. its just for any of these conversations to get pushed forward. avaerage men can be split into so too many categories where it becomes hard to observe. The short unnattractive man vs the tall attractive man lets us see what actually matters. b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 09:03 PM |
| 6 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.Incel types usually don’t have the social skills to put on an act. How are you measuring this? how do you know this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 08:55 PM |
| 9 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.were not going to change the definition of an incel to a mindset to fit your narrative. incel is a man who is involuntary celibate. its is absolutely about celibacy. an incel who cheats ona woman just doesnt make sense. if he had a woman he is not an incel. especially if he was able to cheat on her with another woman. and abuse to women mostly comjes from intimate partners. by definition not incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 08:52 PM |
| 5 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.yes, he needs other attributes. but weve established he doesnt have those. height, money, status, looks, are those other things he doesnt have. and ts dangerous to be in that "meh" category from a woman your seeing so he also has to watch for that. also, women desire to date up, in alot of cases even if it means sharing. (thats why top men in human history have wives and concubines and the rest of men simply got what was left. but today its just called a situationship or hook up or whatever) and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 08:47 PM |
| 13 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.then you agree with him. he wasnt even complaining. you both just literally said the same thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 08:20 PM |
| 6 | A lot of guys with “no options” have a self-inflicted problem.nobody here even did thta. it was just a debate. and you proved his point. because of hes broke and ugly he will get nobody. thats one of the core black pill and red pill stuff. looks are king. personality matters but much much less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 08:19 PM |
| 1 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.what task?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 02:52 AM |
| 2 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.Yes essentially it can and it did | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 02:49 AM |
| 2 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.I*d say whores for a night and a ai robotic lifelong companion is vert two differen things also those are wrong reasons to be in a relationship if those are the mainn stuff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:57 AM |
| 2 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.very few women need them. but this is something that would be marketed mainly to men because men will be the maine ones buying them. they still do have to profit after all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:55 AM |
| 6 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.Ai has only became real and useful since 2022. othwer wise it will just halucinate. now its developing at a rapid rate, but also developing itself. this is nothing like before. and AI wasnt nowhere near huge or even has powerful as today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:54 AM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.no, i dont think so. even if you want to go the free will angle you can just make these ai have no real rigid standards that these men can have a chance to be selected. no they arent only real in human connection. and you have no proof of so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:52 AM |
| 5 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.You assume these men are nmot taking care of themselves. alot of these men are just truly unfortunate. also bad men in human history never had a problem, with women. even today with women and their autonomy, l;ike majority of men in prision have children. your coming from some pre made image of what these men are when you dont have anythi8ng to back that up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:51 AM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.mind you these things arent even out so how do you know thats how they will be designed for these men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:46 AM |
| 5 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.ok i guess?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:05 AM |
| 2 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.how so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:04 AM |
| 2 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.Ai is a model thats trained on whatever data set you want to train it on. it also can develop its self and remember on its own. compact memories, remember what you asked for last week, just lioke a human can. you havent said how ai is a slave or a tool. or rather how it will not become something more. after all the end goal is literally AGI | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:04 AM |
| 5 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.your also repeating the same exact thing again. i already answered. i do not think it will be a problem. but you nor me have a way to prove if it will be a problem of validation of what. but all the benefits i just mentioned. this likely will only be a problem for few. and the sheer amount of benefits these men get. theyed hardly stop caring considering hoe desired they would feel. but anyway. this is a problem we dont know even exist yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:55 AM |
| 5 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.why would Ai women be slaves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:48 AM |
| 5 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.this is just false. your not going to be sad if you won the lottery for 1million just because you didnt grind for it. the whole point of modern human inventions, or really any inventions is to do things as easy and as quick as possible. you dont feel bad about sending a text message in stead of doing all the work, to write a note and walking to their house to give it to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:48 AM |
| 1 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.again, your thinking about the most absolute most robotic form of these things, obviously these things will have their own opinions, even taste and desire. just becaause they are made for unselected men doesnt mean their going to be brick walls with no opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:42 AM |
| 6 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.that doesnt mean it wouldnt be validating, no betta bux, consistant sex, not ran through and long term comittment. constant affection and feeling desired. even if that was a problem. which it probably wont be. will be over taken by the sheer amount of benefits they get | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:40 AM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.why would they be programmed to reject these men? thats why their not completely like human women. its for men that couldnt pass that attractive threshold and can still have a partner. if they still want to go the free will route. they have no reason to be programmed to have a strict set of what their attracted to so unselected men would have a shot. but that would not even make sense to do that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:30 AM |
| 0 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.humans are also "programmed" its called evolution. the only difference is it takes a loooong time. also they dont need to be exactly one to one authentic. just like 95 percent to be real enough that they minus well should be women. just for men that werent selected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:27 AM |
| -1 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.If its real enough it absolutely will. im thinking joi from blade runner. sex is apart of that validation but not the whole thing.. but to be actually desired for who they are. not a beta bux situation. you can love yourself all you want but it will never replace the desire to be desired by someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:15 AM |
| 2 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.if you agree you have to put this in that auto moderator comment or it will get deleted. but we seem to agree. cool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:07 AM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.probably | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:05 AM |
| 3 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.cool. we seem to agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:05 AM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?why...would you show yourself to prove me wrong. this was dumb. this was so personal to you ypu had to show yourself and possibly doxx yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 10:31 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?yea...no. its not worth it to prove me wrong. at the end of the day were just talking here. keep your identity private | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 10:28 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?they think one. or a couple disproves that most women on PPD is not attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 09:17 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?basically forties. and my point. no skinny, young attractive woman is on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:32 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?Im an average man, the only difference is that im rfich, (or some people here have called it high middle class. depends on what you mean by rich) i post here becuase well...ive made it tbh, and this is the only place i can get out my opinions cant really say anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:31 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?Mind you all. this is a woman in her forties. no hot, young attractive woman who has a actual life is on PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:25 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?yea...i know the women here are no better looking then the men tbh. no hot, skinny, attractive woman is on PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:24 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?Ive always said the women on PPD are losers as well. just a step above the men they call losers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:20 PM |
| 1 | If there was a button flipping the dating dynamics for Men and Woman would you press it?They wouldnt. as much as women enjoy complaining about statistics, patriarchy, violence ect. Women dont want to give up having sex/dates/relationships whenever they want. they wouldnt want to give up not paying for dates (overwhealming majority of them). They dont want to give up their social privileges. lesser sentences for the same crimes. i could go on and on. They only see the men at the top or chad in terms of being a men. they would only posssibly switch if they were a tall attractive man,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 07:41 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.how are you measuring this? this objective conclusion that "men" commonly use it this way. . how do you differenciate between how this is what they actually feel or how you percieved it. please tell me? if your going to keep applying what other people say to me to my arguments. lets see what ground their holding besides your eyes and how you percieved it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 07:08 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.again, this whole posts, is you trying to get me to argue for what other guys say, and thats impossible to argue, Your taking what other men said, applying it to my arguemnt. then arguing that. thena TAKING what they say and trying to acuse a motte and bailey Litterally impossible to argue considering those men have their own minds and thoughts and reasons for why they say what they do. nor do i have to defend whats commonly used. you did this in other debates. when youve reframed my argument. b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:52 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.he was just simply tall and attractive enough for her to ignore it. theres no reason to dance around it. women will catch on to that immediately if she was dating a mnan she was "meh" about for whatever reason, so choose better is still valid, and no this doesnt mean choose unnatractive men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:39 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.you keep hiding behind “other men” because the argument in front of you is harder to answer. i already said better vetting means vet the men you are attracted to. not choose me. not date men you dislike. not pick some sexless boring guy. vet the men you actually want more honestly. and no, saying women often choose hot men, confident men, tall men, dominant men, men with options, or socially valuable men is not automatically saying those traits are evil. it is saying those traits give men levera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:20 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.no, because that assumes dating is fair event where everyone gets to participate, and thats not true at all. one man could get 5 women on rotation. another has nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:20 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.No their better off with some who thinks their hot "why would i call them hot? The reality is that they arent hot" Proved my point, you should have been dating hot men from, jump. and nerds should be with someone who thinks their hot. you did them a favor for dating hot men, becaus ethe women they should be with should describe them as the "hot men" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:06 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.this analogy only works if every bad choice is a total blind surprise with no traits, no signals, no prior pattern, no warnings, no attraction bias, no continued access, and no repeated forgiveness. which is exactly the fantasy version women want to hide inside. getting bad ravioli one time at a new restaurant is bad luck. going back to the same kind of restaurant over and over, ordering the same kind of dish, ignoring bad reviews, watching other people get sick, telling everyone the danger make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:02 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.TIL that glasses suddenly makes a man a nerd apparently? your the one that said "insecure nerdy guys" andnow your dating "hot guys" im saying those nerds should be dating someone who thinks their in the "hot guys" category and not separate from. theyed be much better off that way. and they will be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:57 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.this is the same reframe again. “choose better” does not mean choose me and it does not mean date men you are repulsed by. it means stop pretending attraction magically erases selection. you even admit the real answer without realizing it when you say women should better vet the men they are attracted to. yes. exactly. that is literally the point. better vetting means your choices matter. better vetting means some men you are attracted to should not get access. better vetting means attraction is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:53 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.yes all All men have the ability to say no to a woman they don’t want to date or have sex with. but are all men equally have the chance to be in a position to say no to a woman they don’t want to date or have sex with in the first place? no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:49 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.you can have the agency to buy a mansion. but do you have the option to? women are the millionares who has the agency and the optioon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:47 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Then you admit that "choose better" is correct. women just dont like to be responsible for their agency. you absolutely dont have to pick boring stable men. but when it all goes badly. choose better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:41 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.gen z arent dating as much as well. nor going out. and men arent asking as much women out either. especcially with the difference between the political shift from each gender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:39 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Oh? so you didnt stop dating insecure guys. you simply started dating attractive men over the nerds. it wasnt insecure nerds to secure nerds. it was insecure nerds to possibly insecure attractive men. its was just the physical attraction. as i said. you did the nerdy men a service. they need to be with someone they think that they are hot, not someone who only dates them until they need to run to attractive men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:37 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Looks arent the only thing. but its the heaviest inlfuence by far. the influence that will make a women throw out any standards. behavior and attittude wont make a short man genrally attractve like a tall man for just existing. you drew up a cartoonish situation. most people or even friends are even talking about the pay gap. its a boring untrue conversation and doesnt even fit unless your in debate class or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:32 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.yes. but this is such a very. very small group of women. and even still have more options compared to their counter part. choose better still counts to women even if women just have men that wanst to sleep with her. but if a literal conjoined twins can have two husbands for each other. this is a literal handful of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:25 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.didnt say it was. but its still not equivilant. Being robbed is your fault at all. she bears responsibility for being with this man. because she agred to be in a relationship with him. not soley, but she bears it as well. i said this in my posts already these men should be incels but they arent. they were simply attractive and she thought that she could tame him most of the times. nobody is a perfect liar and manipulator. especially for the women that can "sense" it apparently but thats just res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:22 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.this is the usual dodge where women pretend all standards are automatically good just because they are called standards. nobody is saying women should have no standards. the argument is about what those standards actually filter for. you can be picky and still pick badly. you can have high standards and still have shallow standards. you can reject normal men for tiny flaws while making endless exceptions for the attractive exciting toxic guy. that is the point. “choose better” does not mean choo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:18 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.and hot guys have no insecurity apparently? or does it simply matter less? You didnt say you simply were dating more secure guys. you said you were dating "hot" guys. and nerds simply were nerds. strong implication you didnt think these "nerds" were hot. you simply did them a service. no man wants to be settled for. let him find a nerd girl that thinks hes "hot" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:12 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.i didnt absolve men of responsibility. im saying these men are getting fucked and having relationships. and women have an abundant of options. shes rejecting every other man for this one. ge cant get into a relationship with her unless she agrees. Ive done nothing but prove why choose better is absolutely correct for women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:04 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.being robbed is something that happens to you. not something you chose. women choose these men. otherwise these men would be incels. but thats not what happening is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:03 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Marrige has been going down in general, with people getting married at sucha later age. and gen z who doesnt view marrige as important. less spousal abuse if spouses are going down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:00 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.way different time, theres no kings nor women arent forced to be with or marry said men. Im talking about today where essentially nothing changed. but now theres nobody that made these women be with such men. yet a wife beater always had or have a wife, a abuser alwys have women to abuse. and cheaters and manipulators always have women to do so. all with womens full autonomy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:59 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.men do get told to choose better. constantly. men are told not to stick their dick in crazy, not to marry the wrong woman, not to ignore red flags, not to wife up party girls, not to commit to women with obvious instability, not to have kids with women they barely know, not to trust the wrong woman with their house, money, time, or children. nobody treats male bad selection like some sacred trauma space where criticism is forbidden. the difference is men usually have far fewer options, so the ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:55 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.how so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:53 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.This "choose better: argument only apllies to women because they have way more options and they are the choosers. since men dont have said options. the details of seeing who is getting fucked and why is the reason why "choose better" is a thing only for women. and its correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:52 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.so then then those men that they can "sense" is bs according to you since they cant. These men were just simply unattractive men women needed to make up something about to reject them and appear not shallow. which is much worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:49 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.choosing said men. isnt something that happened to you. He was attractive and you simply accepted it. otherwise he wouldnt have been with you. choose better is coreect for women, regardless of the tone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:46 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.You wanted the hot guys all along. what women doesnt? the nerds wasnt "hot" to you. but now your dating guys that are? honestly good for the nerds. full desire or nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:44 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.All the details we need to know is that who is getting fucked and why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:36 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.she will not catch on that she admitted her partner is a betabuxx. lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:35 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.you almost got it, then dodged the actual distinction. if a man has a bad experience living with a woman and decides he does not want to live with women anymore, he is changing his own risk exposure. he is not asking the next woman to pay more, wait longer, tolerate more suspicion, jump through more hoops, and accept less desire because of what the last woman did. the issue is not “women are never allowed to learn.” obviously people learn from bad experiences. the issue is when one man gets the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:32 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.choose better” applies when there is continued selection, continued access, continued forgiveness, continued chasing, continued sex, continued emotional investment, continued ignoring of obvious traits, and then later acting like the outcome was some random lightning strike from the sky. a first message from a creep is male behavior. repeatedly entertaining the same kind of man because he is hot, exciting, dominant, unavailable, or gives you the right emotional spike is selection. those are not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:20 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.exactly, bullies, killers, overal terrible men in human history had lots of problems and caused alot of problems but sex and relationships were never one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:19 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.wheres that "sense" that women can use apparently? The power to sense when a man is a bitter, misogynistic, incel or red piller the moment they have a conversation? or does this power only work on certain men? or perhaps ignored? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:16 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.the question is why those boundaries usually appear after the exciting toxic guy already got the softer rules, the benefit of the doubt, the sexual access, the forgiveness, and the emotional investment. then the next man gets told he has to deal with the upgraded security system because of what the last man was allowed to get away with. paying more, and with half as desire and attraction that is not “choosing better” in the noble way you are framing it. that is learning after rewarding the exact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:06 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.no it doesnt. this is the same lazy reframe every time. saying women have responsibility for who they select does not mean men have no responsibility for how they behave. both things can be true at the same time. if a man lies, cheats, manipulates, or abuses, that is on him. nobody is removing his agency. but if women repeatedly select, reward, forgive, chase, and sexually validate the same kinds of men, res pill are allowed to talk about that too. and devalop a strategy that works you only call… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:03 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.the point is that women have more access, more attention, and more chances to filter than most men do, so when the same kinds of men keep getting picked, forgiven, chased, and rewarded, people are allowed to ask what is being selected for. and the beta bux point is not a contradiction either. the criticism is not “how dare she choose a stable man.” the criticism is when women reward one type of man with lust, youth, chaos, forgiveness, and excitement, then later rebrand choosing the safer man as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:58 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.I didn't say it did. Red pill is false because there's no evidence to back up its claims. I said multiple mass shooters is why people suddenly became concerned with it. i guess we can say the same for feminism, the left, lgtbq every one of those have done alot of violence as well. particulary with charlie kirk. I also forgot about Gamergate and all the death and rape threats red pillers sent. Do you have any proof these men where red pill while your talking about proof? 80/20, alpha widow, cock … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:57 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.id say people becoming suddenly becoming more aware of young men and the red pill is more close to ttruth than false. a whole documentary on it by Netflix. id say my point definitely leans more to truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:18 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.incel is a state of being. not a mindset. i think your looking for mysogonist. i dont think you have any proof hes an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:16 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.you keep moving the word from lonely men to violent men because violent men are easier to dismiss. i never asked you to have compassion for violent people. that is the reframe. the point is that normal lonely men get mentally grouped with violent men so nobody has to deal with them as normal people with normal complaints. and by “deal with them” i do not mean you personally dating them or inviting them into your life. i mean intellectually. actually answering what they are saying instead of thro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:09 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.so just an according to your eyes thing. Doesnt push the conversation and is basically just an optinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:06 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.This is going nowhere. and its heading to your opinions and what you think about the red pill. your whole last replay. Its only dangerous because men is much more beneficial to society and women when we simply believe whatever they say. and red pill not only went against that. but gained hell of traction. were heading to opinions and its not going anywhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 09:02 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Follow the strategies to simply get the out comes you want. sometimes not every man can go it. Wether is to get as much sex as you want or the marrige you have in mind. Be ruthless, focused. and dont feel bad about it. Becsue as women on here say, dating and attraction is amoral. so do what you need to get the outcomes you want. regardless dont watch listen to what women say. watch who they actually fuck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:58 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.men complaining about women has always existed. nobody is arguing men invented complaining in 2012. the difference is that red pill turned vague frustration into a framework about attraction, selection, leverage, status, looks, dating apps, and the lies in mainstream dating advice. and you basically admit the core point anyway. you said singlehood has increased, women have more means to be selective, and women are fine single so they are selecting harder. ok. that is literally female selection a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:52 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Do we define groups by its worse or thats specifically red pill. because didnt a man of a leftist and lgbt certain group shoot a man through his neck a couple months ago? welp thats defines them i guess. a violent group | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:49 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.the problematic part is the women blaming, doesn't matter if there's other things like genetics or whatever. why if its true? whos rejecting them? women are apart of it but its not the whole problem. that doesnt mean anything should change. yes, because the problem is not socializing. Women aren't attracted to regular men they see online but they are attracted to regular men they share spaces with, proven by millennia of human history. it was convenient and women were not in control of their cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:47 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.augustus was not sitting around worried that young men felt romantically invisible. he wanted marriage, children, inheritance order and population stability. china worrying about bare branches was not compassion either. it was fear that rootless unmarried men would become bandits or rebels. early modern england whipping vagrants and forcing them into labor was not empathy for male loneliness. it was social control. so you kind of proved my point from a historical angle. societies often care abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:40 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Your going to believe what you want despite evidence so. regardless how dumb it is. all because you just dont like incels. but hey you can lead a horse to water but ya cant make em think. were done here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:37 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.I was a 2000s kid too. nobody came to my school saying any of that. so your anecdotal experience is running this into the ground. Red pill is not a terrorist organization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:34 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.any stats? or anything to back this up? its a big claim to say a bunch of men are angry without something to back it up. or is this just according to your eyes thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:29 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.that is not compassion and it is not even an answer to the argument. that is just taking the normal lonely man and mentally placing him beside the worst male criminal you can imagine so you do not have to deal with him as a regular person. most men are not threatening or killing anyone. most lonely men are not violent. most men who found red pill were not sitting around plotting harm. they were confused, rejected, invisible, angry, and looking for an explanation that made more sense than “you ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:27 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.You can't deny TRP isn't woman blaming. You said it your first comment and now you are trying to backtrack Also they could blame their genetics, women, circumstances, all of it would be true. but ither there problem to fix im saying that they arent just blaming women. but hey are apart of it. women are not irrelevant to male dating outcomes. if men are lonely specifically in romance, sex, attraction, rejection, options, dating apps, social status, and being filtered out, then female selection ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:21 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Id be ALOT more concerned. about the actual serial killer in my neighborhood than the someone online saying they will be a serial killer oonline, most likely somewhere completely different, and most likely will not do it. acoording to statistics. but those big bad scary incels though right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:15 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.because “screamed about it loudly” is doing too much work here. men have complained about loneliness, rejection, sexlessness, suicide, isolation, and dating failure forever. that noise existed. it was just easy to mock or dismiss when it sounded like personal failure. what changed with red pill was not just volume. it was direction and relavence. the complaint stopped being “what am i doing wrong nobody wants me” and became “maybe the dating script men were taught is false, maybe female selectio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:11 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.I made a whole posts about this. They are more concerned what incels could theoretically do instead of who's actually doing it around them. Incels and red pill is the easy target. Preaching to everyone except who is actually doing it en masse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:06 PM |
| – | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.obviously people worried about young men being radicalized into literal terrorist organizations. ISIS was not a dating framework. it was not men saying modern dating advice is fake or women select for looks status and leverage. it was a violent terrorist group recruiting people into actual violence. Narrative control, "believe what were telling you or your dangerous" so bringing up ISIS does not answer my point. (red pill nor incels have any data froma good source that say they are any significa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:04 PM |
| 6 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.a tiny number of insane people touching an idea does not prove the whole framework false, and it definitely does not explain why normal lonely men were ignored before the framework became inconvenient. if your claim is that red pill as a group is meaningfully producing mass shooters, then show that instead of just gesturing at the worst people you can find. also “its not correct” is not an argument. what part is not correct? that looks matter? that status matters? that women select harder than m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:59 PM |
| 4 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.red pill did not create the vulnerable man. it found him already vulnerable. you are treating the ideology like it randomly infected perfectly fine men, when the whole reason it spread is because a lot of men already felt the mainstream explanation for dating was useless or dishonest. and “everyone is lonely” is too vague. everyone being lonely does not erase the specific way young men experience romantic invisibility, sexlessness, rejection, lack of options, and being told any frustration about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:57 PM |
| 6 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.young men being lonely, invisible, confused, sexless, depressed, or romantically lost did not create this big moral urgency. the urgency showed up when those men became associated with an ideology people think could become socially dangerous or critical of women. and yes, people absolutely say they want to protect young men from red pill. that is basically one of the main anti red pill talking points now. “young boys are being radicalized,” “we need to save men from toxic masculinity,” “we need … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:51 PM |
| 4 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.ah, thanks and that is basically my point. the “squeaky wheel” part only started mattering when the noise was directed at women and the blue pill script. lonely men were already there. sexless men were already there. socially lost men were already there. but when it was just men quietly failing, nobody treated it like some serious cultural problem. then red pill said maybe attraction is not what men were told, maybe women select in harsher ways than people admit, maybe the dating advice men were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:49 PM |
| 9 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.no. my argument is that their problems were ignored until the explanation for those problems became inconvenient. young men did not suddenly “jump to the front of the line.” they were lonely, invisible, sexless, depressed, and confused before red pill was mainstream. nobody treated that as some urgent cultural emergency. most of the advice was basically shut up, shower, get therapy, work on yourself, nobody owes you anything. then red pill gave those same men a framework that questioned women, d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:46 PM |
| 10 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.you skipped over the part where the loneliness and confusion already existed and jumped straight to managing the ideology that came after it. red pill did not appear in a vacuum. it found men who were already being told their problems were personal failure, entitlement, bad hygiene, lack of therapy, bad personality, whatever. so when you say “we are not protecting men against loneliness, we are protecting them from hate speech” you basically prove the point. the concern is not actually about the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:44 PM |
| 2 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.Redpill nor incels. dont Have any data that eve suggest they are mass shooters. or even a minority of said cases so thats false. If red pill was correct then why the push back? outside of some extreme people that EVERY group have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:40 PM |
| 0 | young men were not a priority until the red pill came along. Suddenly they need to be "protected" Selective Righteousness and Narrative Caontrol.What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:35 PM |
| 6 | What is it like wanting female validation badlymen are not just trying to get women. they are trying to climb out of invisibility. they are trying to become noticeable enough to even be considered human in a romantic sense. a woman can be tired of attention. a man can be starving for proof that he is even eligible to receive it. those are not the same wound. this is why men get so angry when women pretend the game is morally equal. it is not. women may suffer inside relationships, but men often suffer before they are even allowed near one. w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 05:33 PM |
| -1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou are still trying to make this about men continuing forever after rejection because that is the easiest version to argue against. nobody is saying a man should keep escalating after she is not interested. but you already admitted the real point. unattractive men become creepy much faster because they did not pass the vibe check. exactly. that means the same direction of behavior gets less room depending on the man. the attractive man gets space to build tension. the unattractive man gets shut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 05:04 PM |
| 15 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou keep making this about what happens after she does not reciprocate because that is the safe version of the argument. if she does not reciprocate and he keeps going, fine, that is creepy. nobody is defending that. but men get read as creepy before any long refusal even happens. the initial look, the initial approach, the initial compliment, the initial vibe, the initial sexual interest can already be judged through whether she finds him desirable. a wanted man looking can be tension. an unwan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:44 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou keep changing the definition to protect the argument. first it was do not engage sexually unless you already have enthusiastic consent. now flirting is fine because it is just testing interest. okay, but that is the gray area i am talking about. flirting is not friendship. the whole point of flirting is that there is attraction under it. it does not have to be vulgar or explicit to be sexual in nature. a look, tone, compliment, tension, teasing, body language, directness, all of that can car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:42 PM |
| -1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationexactly. when women find men attractive, they allow him to pass. when they do not, they do not allow him to pass. that is the entire attraction filter i am talking about. you are pretending this is just normal social calibration, but the calibration is not neutral. the man is judged first. if she wants him, he gets more room to build tension, be bold, escalate, make desire visible, and become sexually direct. if she does not want him, the same direction closes immediately and anything past that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:40 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthen you already walked it back. you first said flirting and sexual attention are inherently objectifying if unwanted. now you are saying flirting can be romantic and not sexual. fine. then unwanted flirting is not automatically objectification. and romantic flirting still usually carries attraction. it is not some sterile friendship ritual. if a man approaches a woman because he finds her beautiful, wants tension, wants a date, wants intimacy, or wants to see if there is chemistry, there is usu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:39 PM |
| 0 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou are basically agreeing with my actual point while pretending you are correcting me. i do not think male sexual desire automatically dehumanizes women. that has been my argument the whole time. a man can think a woman is sexy, want her, flirt with her, approach her, or be sexually attracted to her without reducing her to an object. the people in here are the ones acting like unwanted sexualization instantly becomes objectification. that is what i am pushing back on. you even said you do not m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:37 PM |
| 0 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou said maybe attractive men are just smoother, more socially experienced, and behave differently. fine, sometimes that is true. but you have not proven that either. you are just choosing the explanation that protects women from attraction bias. my point is not that every hot man and every unattractive man behave identically. my point is that in borderline situations, women give more charitable readings to men they already find desirable. and you already basically conceded the foundation when y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:18 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationif objectification means ignoring a woman’s autonomy, comfort, and reaction, fine. nobody is defending that. if she is uncomfortable, uninterested, says no, moves away, or shuts it down, the man should stop. but you are going further than that. you are saying a man should not engage sexually unless he is already sure he has enthusiastic consent. that means the first sexual signal is automatically suspicious unless she already wanted him before he made it. that is exactly my point. flirting does … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:14 PM |
| 6 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthen you just made objectification so broad it basically means wanting anything from another person. if a woman being attracted to a man because he seems stable, masculine, protective, or capable is objectification, then women objectify men constantly. if a man being sexually attracted to a woman and wanting a number is objectification, then normal dating is objectification too. that is exactly the problem. the word gets stretched until normal human desire becomes some moral crime. trying to get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:11 PM |
| – | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationAttraction does not grow. its eather there or not there. Because you would not say you gave a tall attractive man of your dreams a "chance". No woman would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:10 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationwhen i say women do not hate objectification, i am talking about how the word gets used socially, not the strict definition where someone is literally being treated like a body with no agency. obviously nobody wants that. They simply dont call it that. but they do ot mind at all when its a tall attractive man even if he objectifies them. the point is that women often call unwanted male sexual desire objectification when the man did not actually erase her agency. he just made his attraction obvio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:09 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationI have to prove that an unattractive man and a tall attractive man will get very different reactions and anlot of times extreme different reactions? are we serious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:05 PM |
| -2 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationIf your uncomfortable from words on a screen. You need thicker skin seriously. dont faint lol. Coming from another straight dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:02 PM |
| 0 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationbut that just proves my point. the difference is not the behavior by itself. the difference is whether she wanted it from him. if a man needs explicit consent before any sexual attention exists, then how does flirting even start. someone has to show interest first. someone has to create tension first. someone has to make attraction visible first. that first move will either be welcomed or rejected, and whether it is welcomed depends heavily on who is doing it. if she likes him, the sexual attent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:01 PM |
| 10 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationI cant stand when they ask this question too. They argue with us about him, Defend him and his cock to the death, he simutaniously exist and dont exist according to women and blue pillers. Then they retreat back to "what is a chad?" to derail the argument or dismiss it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:00 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthat is not the argument though. you are changing it into women want objectification because that is easier to knock down. the argument is not that women enjoy being dehumanized. the argument is that women often label unwanted sexual attention as objectification when the real issue is that the man was unwanted. a pat on the back and assault are different actions. that analogy only works if i was comparing groping to flirting. i am not. i already separated obvious violations from the gray area. t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:57 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationbecause you keep changing the comparison. nobody said different behavior should get the same reaction. if one man is polite and another is pushy, obviously the reactions should be different. the argument is about similar borderline behavior being interpreted differently because of who is doing it. a stare is not automatically one fixed thing. from one man it is tension, from another it is creepy. direct sexual interest is not automatically one fixed thing. from one man it is confidence, from ano… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:52 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthis analogy actually proves my point, a random woman demanding i buy her coffee or clothes is not just seeing me as a provider. she is actively trying to extract something from me. that would be more like a man demanding sexual access, touching, pressuring, or refusing to take no. obviously that is wrong. the better comparison would be a woman noticing a man looks successful, masculine, protective, stable, or provider minded and being attracted to that. men might know she is responding to what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:51 PM |
| 4 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationif you do not like being hit on, fine. if it makes you uncomfortable, fine. if you want men to leave you alone, fine. none of that is the argument. the argument is when women take that feeling and turn it into he did not see me as a whole person. that is a claim about his intent and mindset, not just your feeling. you can feel unwanted attention is annoying without pretending every man who shows desire has morally dehumanized you. that is exactly the difference you keep avoiding. unwanted does n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:48 PM |
| 12 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthe argument is what women do after the attraction filter. if you like him, his attention becomes flirting, tension, confidence, chemistry. if you do not like him, similar attention can suddenly become creepy, invasive, entitled, or objectifying. that is not me asking for fairness. you can say i did not want his attention. that is honest. but women often go further and make it sound like his desire was morally wrong because it came from the wrong man. so no, this is not about fairness. it is abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:47 PM |
| 2 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationbut women do not only use creepy or objectifying for those cases. they use it for unwanted attention, awkward flirting, being looked at, body based compliments, sexual forwardness, obvious desire, and a man making attraction visible when they do not want him. that is the gray area, whether you want to admit it or not. saying there is no gray area is just convenient. dating and flirting are full of gray area. a look can be tension or creepy. directness can be confidence or entitlement. desire can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:44 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationobjectification is when someone treats you like your body or sexual availability matters while your comfort, agency, interest, boundaries, and personhood do not. so no, flirting is not automatically objectification. sexual desire is not automatically objectification. a man finding a woman attractive is not objectification. even a man wanting sex with a woman is not automatically objectification. it becomes objectification when he acts like her reaction does not matter. but that is exactly my poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:37 PM |
| -4 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationbut you are still dodging the actual point by retreating to the cleanest definition after women use the word loosely in practice. yes, objectification has a real meaning. it means reducing someone to a body with no agency or personhood. but women do not only use it that way socially. they use objectification language for unwanted male sexual attention all the time. and your example is too sanitized. nobody is talking about some harmless “i saw you across the room and thought you were beautiful” … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:35 PM |
| – | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationIf you have to "give someone a chance" The relationship was doomed from the start. Because you saw him as beneath you. He was never going to get a quarter of excitement he got from he men you were attracted to. You did him and yourself a disservice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:28 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou’re acting like those are totally separate, but they are directly tied together. if women accept sexual advances more generously from attractive men, then that affects how those advances are interpreted. that is the whole point. i’m not saying every single behavior becomes magically identical just because the man is hot or ugly. obviously behavior matters. a man being pushy, aggressive, vulgar, or ignoring discomfort is wrong regardless. but in borderline cases, attraction changes the reading… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:25 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthat is actually closer to my point than you think. my issue is that in real life women often blur those categories depending on who the man is. you even said it yourself it matters who is flirting with you. a boyfriend `OBVIOUSLY is a man youve already spent alot of time with but then we should be honest that the judgment is not only about the behavior itself. it is also about whether the INITIAL person giving the attention is wanted, familiar, attractive, trusted, socially acceptable, etc. and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:15 PM |
| 18 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou’re still making my point without wanting to call it that. yes, if she looks away or seems uncomfortable and he keeps staring, that is creepy. i already agreed with that. but you just admitted the key part whether she “consents” to the attention is heavily influenced by whether she likes the man giving it. that is the attraction filter i’m talking about. you are describing it in consent language, but it still means the same initial behavior changes moral category depending on whether the man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:10 PM |
| 7 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationnot wanting sexual attention is one thing. saying sexual attention automatically means you are not being treated like a whole person is another. a man can find you attractive, flirt, show interest, or try to start something without believing you are not a person. desire is not automatically dehumanization. and this is exactly what i mean by moral upgrading. instead of saying “i personally do not like being hit on,” it becomes “he is not treating me like a whole person.” those are not always the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:08 PM |
| -1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou’re asking for proof, but then you immediately replace my argument with an assumption that protects your side. yes, attractive men are often smoother. yes, socially experienced men may know how to flirt better. OBVIOUSLY because women are much much more gracious and reciprocation to these men but that does not explain the whole thing. because the argument is not “every attractive man behaves exactly the same as every unattractive man.” the argument is that women interpret borderline sexual be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:07 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyes, i’m serious, because you’re flattening the question. i’m not asking how you know groping, touching, cornering, explicit sexual comments, or ignoring rejection is inappropriate. obviously that is inappropriate. i’m asking about the gray area you keep avoiding. when a man is forward, flirtatious, visibly attracted, sexually confident, compliments her, looks at her, or creates sexual tension, how do you decide whether that is objectifying or just desire? because my argument is that women often… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:02 PM |
| 2 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationbut that is not really what i am arguing. i am talking about the gray area before that. the look, the compliment, the flirtation, the direct sexual interest, the man making it obvious he wants her. that is where women often pretend the judgment is purely about respect and personhood, when a lot of it is filtered through whether she wanted that man’s attention in the first place. and yes, talking to her, making her laugh, and having mutual chemistry is obviously different from treating her like a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:01 PM |
| 20 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou are talking about what he does after he sees her reaction. i am talking about how the initial attention gets judged in the first place. because “welcomed or not” is not some neutral thing floating in the air. whether the attention is welcomed is heavily influenced by whether she finds the man attractive, socially acceptable, confident, high status, normal, etc. scenario 2 proves the point more than it disproves it. if she smiles back, suddenly the same stare is not objectification. why? beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:58 PM |
| 1 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthat is fair when we are talking about obvious public ogling or sexual comments in places where there is no social or romantic context. if a guy is staring at your chest at work, on the bus, or while you are just trying to buy groceries, yeah, that is not flirting. that is just uncomfortable and socially stupid. but that is not the only situation people call objectification. my point is about the gray area where a man shows attraction, flirts, compliments, looks, or gives sexual attention, and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:54 PM |
| 0 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationi’m not arguing that every individual woman consciously thinks “hot guy good, ugly guy bad” in cartoon terms. i’m saying attraction changes how behavior gets interpreted. you might personally believe you would reject any man who objectifies you, fine. but that still leaves the real question. how are you deciding what counts as objectifying in the first place? a wanted man being forward can get read as confident, bold, passionate, sexually assertive, or creating tension. an unwanted man showing s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:53 PM |
| 7 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou just conceded the main part though. women prefer sexual advances from men they find attractive. fine. nobody is disputing that. the disagreement is what happens after that. you are giving the clean definition of creepy and objectifying, but i am talking about how those words get used in real life. in theory creepy means pushy, not taking no, violating boundaries. in theory objectifying means reducing someone to a sex object with no agency. fine. but in practice, women often use those labels … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 7 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyou keep saying consent like it answers every part of the argument, but it doesn’t. consent is the line for touching, escalating, pursuing, pressuring, or continuing after rejection. nobody is confused about that. the argument is about the judgment that happens before any of that. a man looks at a woman, flirts, compliments her, shows desire, makes his attraction obvious, or gives sexual attention. whether that gets called chemistry or objectification often depends on whether she wanted that man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:49 PM |
| 2 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationyeah but the problem is women blur that line whenever the man is undesirable. being seen as sexy by a man she wants is usually flattering. being seen as sexy by a man she finds unattractive suddenly gets described as being reduced to an object, even if he did not actually dehumanize her. obviously there is a real difference between desire and objectification. nobody is denying that. the point is that women do not apply that distinction consistently. a lot of the time “objectification” just means… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:44 PM |
| 7 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthat sounds clean but it dodges the point. consent is obviously the line for touching, pursuing, pressuring, stalking, or not taking no. nobody is arguing against that. i’m talking about the part before that. the same look, compliment, flirtation, sexual interest, or direct desire is often judged differently depending on whether the woman finds the man attractive. if she wants him, it is chemistry. if she does not, it is creepy or objectifying. so “consent” does not fully explain the difference,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 02:41 PM |
| 7 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesno, legality is not a perfect proxy for morality. fair correction. but that does not create collective culpability. cheating, manipulation, and duplicity can be morally reprehensible without making uninvolved men morally liable for another man’s conduct. my point is not legal positivism. it is moral proximity. his deception is his vice and her selection is her agency. my noninvolvement is not complicity. Shall i explain further? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 05:41 PM |
| 7 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyou are in a thread arguing with the exact men you claim nobody thinks about, telling them they are losers, rejects, defective, and beneath concern. Ya see where im getting at?. when unselected men talk among themselves, women show up to mock them, correct them, moralize at them, and tell them why their view is wrong. but when those same men say fine, then we have no emotional stake in your choices either, suddenly it becomes “nobody is asking you for anything.” then why are you here? if women c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 05:00 PM |
| 5 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyou’re still trying to turn “i am not obligated to feel bad” into “she was asking for it.” those are not the same thing. saying i do not owe emotional investment to a random woman over a man she chose does not mean she deserved what happened. it means her situation is not my moral burden. there is a difference between saying “she deserved it” and saying “this has nothing to do with me.” the robbery example is also not the same. people usually do not date, sleep with, defend, go back to, ignore r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 04:55 PM |
| 7 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADits more so height and face and stuff though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 04:43 PM |
| 7 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyet here you are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 04:39 PM |
| 8 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesIronically passionate about telling me that im passionate about something. were done here. read a bit slower next time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 11 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesid say women blaming men for what a small group of men does is certainly a debate point. this is just a branch off that. you could have just said, you agreed and moved on tf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 02:01 PM |
| 13 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyou just moved the goalpost. first it was women choose superior men because they are better people, better character, more disciplined, healthier, smarter, genetically better, etc. now when i bring up criminals, abusers, manipulators, and infamous men who still had women interested, the answer becomes “well she wanted to fuck.” that means selection is not proof of moral superiority. it can just be attraction, impulse, status, danger, charisma, looks, excitement, or whatever else women respond to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:58 PM |
| 15 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesthen we agree more than you think. if selected men are superior, and unselected men are society’s rejects who nobody thinks about, then there is no reason to ask those rejects for empathy, guilt, accountability, protection, concern, or emotional labor when the superior men do something wrong. that is literally my point. you cannot say women choose better men because those men are higher status and morally better, then expect men outside that selection pool to share responsibility when those bett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:55 PM |
| 10 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choiceshalfmen in prision have kids? jeffery dahmer had many women contacting him or at least wanting to. abusers, manipuilators. all these men had women. please tell me what they added to a womans life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:51 PM |
| 16 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesShe likely will not even catch on to that. she just ironically made a black pill argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:49 PM |
| 14 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesif unselected men are toxic mutants beneath concern, then stop preaching when the men you consider superior turn out not to be so superior. also nobody said women always choose toxic men. the point is that when women do choose badly, random men who were never chosen are not responsible for it. your comment actually proves the whole argument. unselected men are mocked as defective until something goes wrong, then suddenly they are expected to care as fellow human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:46 PM |
| 9 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesThis is a debate sub reddit where we talk about these things. if you dont want to see them, then go to a christianity debate sub. a politics debate sub. a fashion debate sub. but you dont do that dont you? "PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to r/TheBluePill and r/TheRedPill"- the literal fucking slogan of PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:44 PM |
| 19 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesif nobody is asking uninvolved men to feel guilt or not feel bad for what happens to her, then we agree on the main point. random men are not responsible for what another man did just because they share his gender. that is all im arguing. and i never said selected and unselected men are different moral species. that is your framing, not mine. selected and unselected are not moral categories. they are positions in a dating outcome. the selected man is the man she chose, dated, trusted, ignored re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:37 PM |
| 7 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesoh right. were only supposed to talk about something once and never again. not something similar to it. do you hear how you sound? That one was about undeserved and misguided blame. this one was about morals,responsibility and indifference but i doubt youll get it even if it was explained to you. comprehension skills was something you develop in school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:34 PM |
| 12 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choiceswere just talking. it snot this seroius. my posts wasnt some revolutionary thing im super passionate about. ill come up witha different idea tomorrow. Maybe YOU need thicker skin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 12:58 PM |
| 9 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesi mean. any of these posts on PPD can be just opinions and dismissed if you didnt seen anything to respond to, then you shouldnt have responded. but thats not what you did didn't you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 12:33 PM |
| 16 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesThis is a debate sub reddit. we debate the thinsg we really cant anywhere else without so much. Your posts is iroic considering how many things women complaina bout online. and where am i crying ecactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 12:15 PM |
| 13 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choiceswhere...did i say anything about me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 12:01 PM |
| 33 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesYes women (and blue pill men) on PPD need to essentially always shift the argument made to either dismiss it or give leverage. With womens in group bias and blind devotion to other women, they dont actually look at the context of the posts. and what her argument is. or even if it makes sense. They saw a woman made a comment against something they dont like and immediately upvote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 11:52 AM |
| 6 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesdo you agree with my post or.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 11:47 AM |
| 8 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesgood, then we agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 11:45 AM |
| 9 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesbecause if women do not owe men concern for their loneliness, rejection, isolation, or dating failures, then unselected men do not owe women concern for the men they selected either. we went over all of this already | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 11:23 AM |
| 8 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesThis clearly shows a comprehetion problem. Because the point of my posts. . i was arguing from the accepteance that unselected men is nobodies problem. that they shouldnt feel bad to whatever happens to women from the men they choose and the small grouip their attracted to. unless please quote me where i compared | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 11:11 AM |
| 8 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesAgreed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:44 AM |
| 25 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyes, if someone encourages it or watches it happen and does nothing, that is different. then there is actual involvement. but that is not what i am talking about. i am talking about random uninvolved men being morally grouped in with men women chose, dated, ignored red flags for, defended, went back to, or prioritized over other men. if that man does something wrong, he is responsible for it. not every man around him. not men she rejected. not men who had zero influence over her choice or his be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:42 AM |
| 11 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyou keep arguing against things i did not say. i am not comparing loneliness to abuse in severity. i am comparing the standard of empathy. when men struggle, the answer is usually personal responsibility. get over it, improve, stop complaining, nobody owes you anything. you even called it pity parties. but when women suffer because of men they selected, suddenly the language changes to fellow human being, someone’s daughter, why don’t you care, red flag, selfish, etc. and “she chose him” does no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:35 AM |
| 10 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesNo, because theeres different levels to it, manipulating a women into thinking shes the only one when shes not, is different from an extreme such as rape. If a friend assults a woman, you call the police. ita against the law, but ,manipulating, cheating, being a player is not against the law, and it clewarly works because women choose him. why should an unselected men stop his friend from what works for him? His friend she be an incel like him. but thats not what happened did it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:31 AM |
| 17 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesyou keep trying to turn lack of obligation into approval of harm. i already said the man who does wrong is responsible for doing wrong. so saying i am “dismissing bad behaviour on the man’s part” is just false. hold that specific man accountable. what i am rejecting is this idea that random uninvolved men inherit emotional responsibility because a woman is someone’s daughter or sister. everyone is someone’s son too. but you just called men’s suffering “pity parties” and said nobody is going to l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:26 AM |
| 12 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesActually from the base of my argument in OP im arguing from the context im arguing from is that acceptance that men dont get sympathy. i said the man who does the thing is responsible for doing it. i did not say abuse or rape is funny. you added that because it is easier to argue against a cartoon version of the point than the actual point. the actual point is simple. If a man that woman chose does anything to her, hold that man accountable. not random men. not men she never dated. not men she r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:21 AM |
| 11 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesnobody said she is not a human being. nobody said she is not someone’s daughter or sister or friend. the question is why that creates a specific moral debt on random unselected men. everyone is someone’s child. that does not mean every stranger’s bad choices become my responsibility. my friend’s little brother is connected to me through my actual relationship with my friend. that is not the same as a random woman who would not care about me, date me, listen to me, or feel any obligation toward m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:08 AM |
| 18 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesthe man who commits the action is responsible for his action. i never said otherwise. but that does not make uninvolved men responsible for him nor should they feel bad for the woman, especially men women were not choosing, listening to, dating, or giving any influence over the situation. holding a specific man accountable for what he did is one thing. telling random men they need to feel collective guilt or emotional responsibility because they share his gender is another thing entirely. and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:05 AM |
| 2 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:01 AM |
| 7 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesbecause random women doesnt not equal an actual friend you've bonded with. its not equivalent. id thought this was obvious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:01 AM |
| 16 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesYou brought being a rapist into this. you couldnt make an argument that within normal bounds so you drew in an extreme situation in an argument. Im obviously talking men cheating, manipulating, players, abusers stuff like that. Were talking men WOMEN CHOOSE. Most men arent friends with rapist, groomers. murderers. ect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 09:58 AM |
| 5 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesi agree with empathy as a skill. being able to read people and understand their motives is useful. nobody is arguing men should be socially blind or incapable of understanding women. there is a difference between understanding why a woman made a choice and feeling responsible for the fallout of that choice. i can understand how someone was naive, shallow, unlucky, impulsive, manipulated, or attracted to the wrong traits without making it my burden. when men struggle, the answer is usually that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 09:54 AM |
| 8 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesVery long winded with an example to say you agree. Very good then. we agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 09:50 AM |
| -4 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesThats weird. id say, If you have a friend, by some extension, youd care about their family, even if its low. not neccesarrily guilt but also remorse, empathy, sympathy. you care for your friend, but you wouldnt wathc his little brother get beat up by bigger kids would you? or does that also have nothing to do with you? considering hes your friend and not random women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 09:49 AM |
| 5 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesYou cannot care about something and not feel guilt when something bad happens to it. care and guilt are very much tied in together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 09:42 AM |
| – | Men do not understand when women are not attracted to them and deploy ego-protective mechanismsyou got anything to back that up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?I wont bother with this posts. because its just a bunch of strawmans. i think women on PPD have reading issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 07:01 AM |
| 7 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Violent tall attractive men arent short of partners either, so much for them markers huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:57 PM |
| 9 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?The ones women end up with are more charismatic but the incels would be just as abusive and cheating and or manipulative if given the chance anything to back this up or just...an opinion piece | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:50 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?famouse cases doesnt mean frequent. They have no data that says theyu are even minority any o those things. unless you want to judge a group based on the few people sho did. thats a dangerous mindset | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:35 PM |
| 5 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Well good thing were not talking about you specifically in this posts are we? so convient you wont or rather cant. but its so often right? anyways were done here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?hmm. id like to see an example. even tstill this could be an outlier wich literally every group has, but we apply the worse doesnt represent the whole group unless we dont like em. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:26 PM |
| 8 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?so again. women are more afriad of theroretical violence but not onces who are actually statistically loke to do it? ass backwards. but protect chad at all cost right? Incels are some how thes violent maysogonist but the men women bang are likely more to kill, rape, abuse. Bit those incels though right? Sure we conviently never hear the things that go against our narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:23 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?source Intimate partners are the biggest killers of women froma man. incels have no data to suggest they are even a strong minority chads are included ins tatistical anomoly, of course not all, but if hes not celibate or waiting for marrige or just done being with women, hes included becuase hes desires and will likely be with many women “so what significant bad things are these men doing to have to have such a negative reaction opposed to men who are actually doing it?” ——> You do realize that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:18 PM |
| 10 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Not the point why are men who dont have any violence statistics more feared than the men women choose who are more statistically dangerous? Why are incels the boogey man except the men women choose including chad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?I know women love chad but theres no need to defend dating him this hard. women stopping dating will change nohing. he will still have abundant of iptions, because women will not stop dating him. and men who got nothing beforehand will still get nothing. nothing changed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:11 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Your graspin at straws. first off. he doesnt even seem like hes complaining, hes making a observation?? also yopu took this mans word as absolute truth. Its just what he thought. we will never know if hes actually right or not. And your riginal comment this was about women quitting dating. not standards. yourr moving the goalpost | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:09 PM |
| 7 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?no probelm, intimate partners are the biggest killers of women from a man source | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:02 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Famous cases doesnt mean their frequent from said group. otherwise your saying its fine to be bigoted and ignorant and scarred when a saudi arabian person gets ona plane. because of the little group that caused 9/11 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:01 PM |
| 8 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?according to their own words huh? vs whos actually doing it.? strange how a coupe crazy members of a group doesnt represent the whole group until we dont like them.... actually id like to see where youve seen these so called raging violent incels? would you mind giving me the subreddit and comment from said sub reddit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:57 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?oh my god. That is the overlap between social isolation and inceldom. That is a commonality among them. Please quote in YOUR5 source were it says how much the over lap is. not IF theres an over lap. thats the whole point You did not say Chad was included, you said “Chad statistically is way more violent.” Your words, not mine. Chads are smore statistically violent because they are included in the intimate partners statistic. not incels who dont have any data saying they are even a minority of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:55 PM |
| 11 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?This should all be so simple to connect really. chad is more dangerous than incels because chad is included in the intimate partners statistic. because hes a highly desired man. you dont need a statistic for that. thats common sense. unless your about to tell me a tall attractive man isnt out here having intimate partners.?? your argument is "because unselected men aren't in relationships they are less likely to commit DV" which is not a convincing argument to select those men. Never once in any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:45 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?That is not the point of my posts lady. were not arguing the amount or anything like that. thats not the discussion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?exactly, we agree. women wont give up men dating attractive men. You seem to think my comment was a complaint. but i was saying that in response to the other comment saying women should leave all men unselected. i was saying that women will not stopop sating attractive men. we agree here. whats the issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?What are you even talking about? attractive tall men will always be desired and have options. the men who didnt have nothing before this great "women done dating" thing. will still have nothing. The men in this sub is a molecule in terms of the overal dating enviroment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:32 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Your the one that said something about incel stats, the point of my posts was the lack thereof.. intimaty partners statistic? easy. source That includes chads, since those men are frequent and desired intimate partners by women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:26 PM |
| 13 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Once again my point. Theoretical violence is somehow much more scary than the actyual violence happening around women by men they chose thats well documented in studies but Those incels though right? what they Could do not whose acutally doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:20 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Strawman, i nevert said an incel have never did anything bad. The statistics say that intimate partners are the leading cause of harm to women. that includes all them chads women like. Funny how online behavior is incels shooting themselves in the foot, but actual statistics saying that intimate partners are doing most real life violence to women doesnt shoot chad in the foot or any other intimate partners. hmm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Where did i say they that? i was just saying that to the other womans response saying "so smart women should leave all men "unselected" and avoid the risks of having intimate partners." we agree i said women arent going to stop dating attractive men despite them being more dangerous than incels. we agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:14 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Yet nothing changed. men who connstantly were able to get women still are. men who didnt simply will continue to not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Your source, just says these men are indeed lonely and isolated. I didnt say they werent, I said overlap. not if they were or werent. your source didnt provide that. people in general can be socially isolated for lots of reasone, bet i need ther over lap for incels i said chad was included, not because he was the only one, but most if not all women want this man. my posts was more centered aroun unselected men. and how they are more feared than the. men (chad or not chad) that are doing it. I sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:10 PM |
| 9 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Yea this doesnt say that incels have any significant amount of violence other than some specific cases. compared to the intimate partners statistic that says most violence is caused by intimate partners, Your grasping at straws, i need to see a statistic that says these men are doing a even a minority of damage by a good source | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Chads are included in intimate partners unless hes celibate or waiting till marrige, many women want thgis man and he will very likely have alot of women. (even if its just one) hes included in this statistic. unless your teloling me chad is either undesirable like incels or all of them is suddenly celobate. also i never said chad was all of the intimate partner statistic either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:56 PM |
| 4 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Because attractive men are included in intimate partners statistic. Most women experience wall the violence from intimate partners. inless hes celibate or waiting until marrige. Most women want this man and hs likely will be with many of them,(even if hes with only one, hes still included in there) Thats why hes included. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:53 PM |
| 7 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?what incel stats? bring them. Your making the claim. i merely said chads are included in the intimate partners, i didnt say there all, thats a strawman. i just said it cause women like those men so much, regardless if their included in the intimate partners statistic. i mean...most of your post is mumbo jumbo. Do you agree that women are fearing theoretical violence, rather than the actual violence from men they choose? incels are the same boogey man that keeps women from focusing on whos actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?But how many Chads are there? 10% of men? 20%? Either way, it's a minority of partnered guys. The majority of men in relationships are average guys, not Chads. strawman, because i never said all men in these intimate partner statistic was chads did i? i said they were included. the core of my posts is that incels are more feared than the actual men doing the damage. lets stick to the post and what i asctually said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:45 PM |
| 5 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?, Your going to have to give evidence that says incels and social isolation is very much over lapped. thats a very strong claim. Famous cases doesnt correlate to how much their happening by the demographic their apart of. so those examples werent helping your case. Chad is included in intimate partners unless hes celibate or waiting for marrige. Otherwise hes included in intimate partners, but i never said he was the sole reason. Also most men in intimate relationships are not violent. hmm where… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:35 PM |
| 8 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?You will also have to explain how Chad (supposedly only the top 10% of the population) is doing all the damage, and how attractiveness factors into higher rates of violence. Strawman, i didnt say any of this. or please copy and paste where i said this, Chad is included in intimate partners unless hes celibate or waiting for marrige. Otherwise hes included in intimate partners, but i never said he was the sole reason. Its a portion of my posts, because women love this men so much, but hes more da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:28 PM |
| 5 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Compared to intimate partners thats actually statisticaloly doing the actual damage in real life? yes lets fear the something that can be done with a close of a tabe rather than the actual statistically dangerous men thats actually doing them yea that makes sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:24 PM |
| 4 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Intimate partners, are leading in all categories of harm and death to women. Chad is included in those intimate partners, for obvious reasons unles hes celibate or waiting for marrige for religious reasons. I didnt say he represented all intimate partners or abuse, but nice try shifting the conversation.source i have more, Incels by definition are not part of intimate partners, and have no data to suggest, They are even a minority in any categories. Therefore they arent significant enough to hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:22 PM |
| 7 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?im going to explain to you in a way that cant be possibly misunder stood. Intimate partners, are leading in all categories of harm and death to women. Chad is included in those intimate partners, for obvious reasons unles hes celibate or waiting for marrige for religious reasons. I didnt say he represented all intimate partners or abuse, but nice try shifting the conversation.source i have more, Incels have no data to suggest, They are even a minority in any categories. Therefore they arent sign… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:20 PM |
| 8 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Sure, an extreme solution instead of simply saying that incels are unjustly feared. but women wont give up dating men their attracted to. despite them being more statistically dangerous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:14 PM |
| 6 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?I just said chad is statistiocally more of a threat than any incel. i pointed him out cause all women want this man. i just made a correct point. You said Now Chad is just anyone who has a relationship? A complete strawman i didnt say. chad can be in any category of those, but he is still in the Intimate partners, that is responsible for most of the harms done by women. not saying they are the only ones. Incels by defitition. arent in those, IN fact. incels have n o statistics that even say thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:10 PM |
| 8 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Socially isolated doesnt mean incels, and it would be point less to argue how much is the overlap because its oing to be pointless as we cant say what it is. anecdotal experiences, (that sound fake tbh) still doesnt trump the fact that intimate partners are leading in almost every category. Funny how the fear of incels is Theoretical (ohh they would be violent givent he chance!) and the actual statistical harm is directly fromw ho women choose. but those bogey man incels though right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:05 PM |
| 12 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?You got something to back that up or is this just one of those "according to my eyes" typa thing. If you count whats being said online as "violence". Its even more wild to be considered a threat over something that can be stopped with a close of a tab than the actual physical violence of a partner a woman chooses in her life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?You seem to be operating thinking, that i think its incels or chads and thats it. Theres varying levels of men in jail;. and what does this even have to do with my posts? lets get back to the argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:55 PM |
| 15 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?From intimate partners, by defitintion not incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:53 PM |
| 5 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Yall are hyper focussing on this particular part of my posts. for some reason women and blue pill have this knee jerk reaction to protect a chad is baffling. Now Chad is just anyone who has a relationship? what are you even talking about? i never said this, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:52 PM |
| 0 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Lets not pretend we dont know who this man is. ya know what fine. Chad represents a man that is widely desired according to what women largely find attractive in a man, Hes tall, good looking, average to high paying job. personality and morals vary. The rest of your posts has nothing to do with mine, all those categories you just mentioned is included in intimate partners. my posts wsnt about people partnered up it was about whos doing the damage and whos not, yet whose not is perceived a much m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Intimate partners could mean statistically from a hook up to a long lasting marriage. Chad is all three of these at some point unless hes for some reason celibate or waiting for marriage. If not, hes included in "intimate parters" for any women he deals with on any level. Incels, have no data that says their are even the ones, assaulting, abusing, stalking, ect on women. thats why hes statistically more dangerous, not all of them but more than incels are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:45 PM |
| 10 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?They are more concerened with theoretical violence, at most online harrasment than the actual statistical violence happening aroound them, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:40 PM |
| 13 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?Of course. butt for some reason, the ones in real life (men that women choose) arent the boogey man that incels are, considering the most danger to a woman is an intimate partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:38 PM |
| 12 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?No, thers no data that says incels are the most of any category of shooters. abusers, stalkers, or forced sex to women. Thats intimate partners, that lead in all those categories. by definition. Not incels also, any one can face threatening or anything online. i have myself. but i would be more concerned with whats happening in real life around me. buyt for some reason incels get alot more for something selected men do in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:37 PM |
| 5 | Intimate Partners are doing all the damage. How are unselected men The problems again?When it comes to violence, murder, abuse, ect. It is largley done by intimate partners. This is a strawman, i didnt say attractive men all were violent. i just said the thay are more statistically way more dangerous than incels because they are included in the intimate partners for women, i can give you the study for intimate partners if you want. but lets not not mix up whats being said here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:34 PM |
| 4 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilitycontext does matter. You used it yourself in your posts, your narrative. Your talking about one of the greatest experiences a human can experience. while i dont think men are whining, were simply stating the reality of how we are to be chosen. and yes there might be fustration. and its completely valid. Yes were all accountable in our choices. men and women in dating. but the options in quality, in amount, and accessibility. is vastly different. is easy to tell men "just stay single" when your o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:28 PM |
| 24 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityCompletely ignoring the context behind it. you went over alot of topics, but all your arguments would be solid if women and men approached dating the same way. Men still overwhelmingly pay for dates, approach, rejection, provide. on top of being tall, attractive enough, then that personality stuff comes after. Women do not need to do any of these do have a very good romantic life. your trying to equalize something thats clearly very lobsided in difficulty. as men, you can have all the agency in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:55 PM |
| 2 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsPsychopaths have data and research to back up their conditions. Theres no data to suggest that incels have the same the same tendencies. So you have to prove how incels as a group are like that.thats a claim. Nothings a guarantee. but we damn well know there are things right next door to it. Being a tall, good looking man, thats funny, is Almost every womans dream man. For a man to miss in that scenario. Hed have to be chasing specific women who are attracted to niche features. purely for the lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 01:07 PM |
| 1 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsYeeaa. im not seeing any reality where women are incels just as much as men equally. Like Where talking about involuntary celebate. Like if hypothetically she went around and asked averaged men who wants to have sex. every man said no. Thats hard to believe. Men love sex and pay and do crazy things to be able to get access. Im dismissing it. because well in what way does it hold any value? the group is dang near all men. prostitutes are highly dangerous. and greatly increases the chances of dise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 01:01 PM |
| 3 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationswere just going to have to disagree ont he elliot rodger one. but even if what you say about him is correct. theres loads more counter examples that being attractive cancels out any mindset. Andrew tate, donald Trump, Clav, Elon, Jitler, Jeffery dahmer. and much more. This is where it depends how clever they are. Even a psychopath knows when to fake charm and personality. Is being a literal psychopath...worse than being an bitter incel?? They both should be incels. i think your talking about gam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:50 PM |
| -1 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsThe original incel group was founded by a women, so no, the average women does not have a lot of options. women say this like it means anything. or any relevance. who cares who founded a damn word. who makes up the whole group? men. so no, the average women does not have a lot of options. Most women want to be in a loving nurturing relationship with s man who loves her for she is. Not just used as a flesh light by a guy off tinder Its still 1000 times what men get. and yes it is and abundant of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:40 PM |
| 0 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsLooks get you noticed yeah, but personality can change, up or downgrade her attraction to you. If this was true, attractive men that have terrible personality would be right where those oh so bitter incels are. but they arent. You could be really good looking and even high status but then start talking like an incel (Elliot Rodger is a great example there) and the attraction dries up immediately. elliot rodgers attractivenes was more of a niche that appealed to a specific group women rather than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:30 PM |
| -1 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsI dont agree but lets say the baseline is being overestimated. Even if he just makes the baseline. with women abundant options. Their not going to settle for "meh" but his personality is good. when a "Hes attractive, and i like his personality" is just somewhere in her DMs, swipes. approached ect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:22 PM |
| 0 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsThat humbled part. is more of a personal thing of him. most of his comment was basically saying that women are the ones that have unrealistic expextations. not men. then you said women woman are fine being singl if they dont get what they want. If the average women has alot of options. but she is going to stay single rather than take one of her options. then her expectations is definitely more unrealistic then mens. Not thats a problem, but that does say her expectations are more unrealistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:18 PM |
| 3 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsI dont know why women act like personality is the holy water in dating for men that are not successful. Personality matter after she likes how you look. not before. especially when women have an abundant amount of options. she isnt going to settle for an unattractive dude with good personality. When theres a dude somewhere in her DMs, swipes, that approached her, thats taller, more attractive, and likes his personality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:11 PM |
| 2 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsIt wasnt perfect but it was coherent lol. Right. well your one woman. and other woman have looks as their main priority. Then they see if they like his personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:07 PM |
| 0 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsso....hes right? We seen what you were trying to do. "were fine with being single, haha, not settling, period lol" but you basically said hes righjt and women are fine with being single. So you disagree with OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:05 PM |
| 6 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsBecause females of all species are the selectors for who gets access to those experieces. My problem is the gaslighting from women, who simply have to say an incel hates women or something and thats why they get nothing. Getting selected out and also coming up with some scenario to blame them is cruel. When they could just say "hey. Sorry, your not tall your not attractive and theres nothing your personality can make up for it" Its will be the honesty he needs to maybe formmulate a plan around h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:02 PM |
| 14 | People shouldn't pity men for their unrealistic expectationsSaying men have unrealistic expectations is wild. considering, what most of what makes us attractive is out of our control. and alot of us get selected out. this is tru for women as well. but much less restrictions. considering a trailer park bottom teir woman can have a few dates lined up. (sorry trailer park women) for men if were not proactive. (paying, approaching, planning) well get nothing. and alot of us arent. older and fat women have no problem getting men, their options is still much m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 11:51 AM |
| 10 | Refusing to work on social skills is a sign of laziness.Social skills wont make a woman attracted to you. being the bare minimum attractiveness for her take you. your going to get bare minimum treatment. Your a jester who have to perform flawlessly to keep her in something shes barely invested in. Its funny how women have to moralize these men for not being selected. I truly wonder why women even do this. They have to come up with scenarios, sometimes cartoonishly , to think of a reason why these men werent selected. from being stalkers to being mass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 03:24 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyYou didn't read the posts and it shows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:22 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogyny"i have a hiigh body count, but i dont want a used up woman" vs "im short but i dont want a midget of a man" Both are rude. but im very confident which one will get way more push back. thats My op claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:20 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyno you just didnt read the posts and thats ok. "i have a hiigh body count, but i dont want a used up woman" vs "im short but i dont want a midget of a man" Both are rude. but im very confident which one will get way more push back. thats My op claim basically. if you can read that at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:17 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyif Both say things in a rude way. but men will get way more criticized for theirs than the woman counter part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:14 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThats my OP point. even if him and another woman. said their dating standards in the most rude way possible. One side gets significantly more push back than the other. "i have a hiigh body count, but i dont want a used up woman" vs "im short but i dont want a midget of a man" Both are rude. but im very confident which one will get way more push back. thats My op claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:13 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyNo he doesnt. A short woman doesnt have to be tall to want a tall guy. a man doesnt have to be celibate or not pushing for early sex and still be not be with women who are into casual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:07 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynythis is a low quality exhange. i can bring up women having crazy stuff too. and alot? The fact that you believe women as a whole wouldnt do anything like that is crazy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:04 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyI don’t need to specify what YOU know you said. Then why bring it up?? and you’re asking me why you questioning “selection patterns” Im asking you to point out what you "recall" so we can have this discussion. but you wont?? nd you’re asking me why you questioning “selection patterns” is wrong? When did i ask that? you wotn even tell me what your talking about.? When the crux of your post is women get validated for their choices and bad experiences and men don’t? you even misunderstood this post… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:01 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyim not arguing complaining for any side. Just cause women dont do it doesnt mean its not hypocritical. We asking for something we dont have or want on ourselves. but want another person to Not only have, but want it in a specific way we want it. This is all drifting away from my OP. but a man thinking that a woman id ran through is disgusting (even when he had alot of partners) is hypocrisy. Just live a short women wanting a man thats 6ft is hypocrisy. but one side will get critisiced more trhan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:51 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyYour still for the most part argueing standards itself. IM arguing reactions to standards after bad experiences. you’re bringing in extreme examples and political rhetoric and acting like that’s the baseline response. I’m not defending any of that. calling women “cat ladies” or saying they’re destroying society for having standards is obviously over the top. but that still doesn’t address the difference I’m talking about. when women say “this happened to me, so now I avoid this,” even if someone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:33 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThats not what my posts was about. not standards. but standards after bad experiences and reactions to said standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:29 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyAlot of this is taking an example from my post that you mis interpreted. or just made a completely different argument to a claim that was never made. Here is the problem with bitching at women over promiscuity. You don't practice what you preach. In fact, men do the opposite. Just a bit of a response to this. . "You don't practice what you preach" implies hypocrisy. which hypocrisy is considered immoral. I thought women said attraction and dating cant be moralized? like when we talk about women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:29 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThis is like me asking you to prove men put "lookin for long term. open to casual" on dating apps. theres no statistics for these phrases Me and you are going to give the same reason how we know. personal experience, others experiences, online and rumors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:19 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyReally? How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:12 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyHere is the thing, nobody has an issue with you dating who you want to date. People have an issue with you villainizing and shaming those who you don’t want to date. If the argument was something like “I don’t date women with high body counts. We have incompatible views towards sex” , sure, you’d piss some people off (which… whenever, you can’t please everyone), Im not arguing standards. Im arguing, standards after bad experiences and how people react to them. Though more often than not, when me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:09 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyyes they absolutely do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 01:00 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyNo i adressed your point. i didnt say the men women chose were all dangeruous or being intentionally saught after. your adressing a claim i didnt make. I said intimate partners are the biggest killers and abusers to women. so incels are a harmless group. elliot roger was a famous case, but far from on average. but chad doesnt hear how dangerous he could possibly be nor held to the same jusgement. just fucked left right and center | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:58 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynySexual dysmorphism, is just a scietific way of wanting something you are not. even if most men are taller. Wanting it is asking for something you are not same sex couples are a small group of people with different standards compared to most people who are straight. it doesnt matter if he doesnt think women are damaged or worse after having to much sex. the fact that hes asking for something hes not will still get him more back lash than a short woman wanting a tall man. especially after having b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:51 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynya guy can say “I don’t think I’m compatible with someone who has a very casual view of sex” and it still gets turned into insecurity, control, misogyny. that happens before any ranting. meanwhile, like in your example, you quietly swiped left on single moms. that’s fine. but if a woman openly says “I don’t date broke men because of my past experiences,” people don’t immediately assume she secretly hates poor men or start diagnosing her character. they take it at face value unless she goes out of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:42 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyIm arguing the difference in approval reactions. not that women dont experience them If a woman says she doesnt date broke men anymore( even if shes broke or not) and a man says he doesnt want to date high body count women anymore, (even if he has a high body count or not) Do you think the difference in approved responses will be marginally bigger or significantly bigger? Id say most definitly one will be callled insecure, misogynist ect way more than the other will be called a gold digger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:40 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyIll take this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:35 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThis is the hypocrisy/double standard we're talking about. This is why people will jump on it. Because it tells us you believe women are much more broken due to casual sex than you are. You're allowed. She isn't. Of course people will have something to say. Most men are taller than most women. It's an easy standard. I personally think it's a dumb one. But easy enough. And yet it still isn't a character or moral judgement. Asking for something you are not. is hypocrisy and not holding your self t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:34 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyYou were the one that started this off with a refrence to another posts, instead of addressing the actual posts your under. Then when i ask what i said what your specifically talking about. and how you believe it was wrong. You side step it. ask a completely different question of your own. and now you dont want to specify it. what are you getting at? what do you want me to answer for? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:24 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynya famous case doesn't represent any statistics. Theres no statistics that say incels are mass shooters. school shooters. rapist. ect. Matter of fact the most harm to a woman from a man. is her intimate partner. ya know....The men that women choose? chad is more of a danger than incels are. But women aren't going to acknowledge that or change anything about i because he's chad. and they wont stop fucking them But incels are the big bad boogey man right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:20 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyI’m not saying women don’t get pushback. I’ve already agreed both of those happen. I’m talking about a specific situation. when someone says “this happened to me, so now I avoid this.” in that situation, women are more likely to get their reasoning understood first, even if people disagree after. men are more likely to have their reasoning questioned first. and even your examples show the difference in tone. “your standards are too high” or “lower your standards” is criticism, sure. but it’s sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:14 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyAnd again I'm asking you do you think women aren't mocked for what they've been through? i didnt say they didn't get mocked did i? Again not the point of my posts. Im saying more so women get significantly more better responses than men do. Like things like the amount sexual partners will get heavily more criticized than a woman saying she wont date short guys no more. It doesn't even matter the tone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:09 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyyou’re shifting it back to standards in general, but that’s not what I’m arguing. I’m talking about how people respond when someone says “this is what happened to me, and this is the standard I developed because of it.” those aren’t the same conversation. when women say “I went through X, so now I avoid Y,” even if people criticize it, there’s usually still an understanding that it came from experience. the language is still about boundaries, healing, protecting yourself. when men say “I went th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:03 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyYou didnt answer my question. What selection patterns i was talking about? and how were they wrong? you cant jut bring it up then just side step it with a question of your own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 12:00 PM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThey same way women say incels are dangerous even though there is no literal evidence of it. (Incels have no statistic of being dangerous) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:57 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyif a woman says “this is what i went through and this is how i’m protecting myself,” people engage with that. they try to understand it, even if they disagree. if a man says the same thing, the first move is usually to question his character instead of the situation that led him there. My posts is about standards changing from bad experiences. Thats where im tabking about in the separation in responces. Your posts would have made sense if made a posts saying womens standards are never criticized… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:52 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynySelection patters about what? and how was it wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:44 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyyou’re zooming it out so far that the difference disappears. yeah, different people interpret things differently. that’s always true about anything. but that doesn’t mean there aren’t patterns in how things tend to get interpreted. for example, if a woman says she avoids men with certain traits because of past experiences, plenty of people understand that as caution. if a man says he avoids women with certain traits because of past experiences, people are much quicker to frame it as insecurity o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:37 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyWere having a discussion. not a vent. that first line is just cheap dismissal. everything else i more or less agree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:31 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThis comment is referencing another debate. Where i was saying unselected men where being blamed for things selected men do. and when men women choose do bad things, it gets applied broadly to even the men that weren't selected. Not “unselected men wouldn't have done that in the first place" i have said this wasnt what i was arguing in several comments This is a reading and comprehension issue on your part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:26 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyI’m not saying women are above criticism or that they have it “peachy.” obviously they get attacked too. you even said you’ve experienced that yourself. the part I’m pointing at isn’t whether criticism exists. it’s how the same type of behavior gets interpreted before the criticism even starts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:22 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyyou’re doing the exact thing the post is about. you don’t like the male standard, so instead of treating it as a preference or boundary, you frame it as irrational, insecure, silly, laughable, etc. also “one involves you, one doesn’t” is a weak distinction. most standards are based on things someone did before they met you. women care about a man’s criminal history before her. his job history before her. his debt before her. his dating history before her. how he treated exes before her. whether … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:19 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynynobody said men are legally oppressed for having standards. “you won’t get arrested” is setting the bar so low it avoids the actual point. I’m talking about social framing, obviously people can date who they want. the question is why one person’s standards get read as self protection and another person’s standards get read as insecurity or hatred. a women get criticized online too. I’m not denying that. but “women get criticized” doesn’t erase the difference in how the criticism usually sounds. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:11 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyThats part of the responses i already got. Women are saying women have only have problem with it when its hypocritical, or rude. When womens standards are hypocritical themselves. and they also do say their standards rudely. The differences in responses is still very much wide. than The difference between a man saying his standards politely and rudely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:05 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynythe issue is that men don’t only get backlash when they’re cruel about it. they get the worst motive assigned to them even when they say it normally. a guy can say “I prefer someone with a similar sexual history to mine” or “I don’t think I’m compatible with someone who views sex casually” and people will still jump to insecurity, control, misogyny, small dick energy, whatever. Also lets not sit here and pretend that women standards arent hypcrital and not what they are themselves. Wanting tall … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:01 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyyou’re still framing this like it’s about needing approval to date, and that’s not what I’m saying. people don’t just date in a vacuum. the way standards get talked about shapes how people interpret each other. it affects whether someone’s reasoning gets taken seriously or dismissed before it’s even understood. if a woman explains her standards, the conversation usually starts with “what happened to you?” or “that makes sense.” if a man explains his, it often starts with “what’s wrong with you?”… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:55 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyOk so you havent then. How do you know? or was this another way to dismiss whats being said. lazy reply. you don’t have to agree with my examples, but pretending these standards only exist online is just a dodge. the point still stands. when women develop filters from bad experiences, it’s usually framed as boundaries. when men develop filters from bad experiences, it’s usually framed as insecurity or bitterness. you still haven’t addressed that part. orther than tacky dismissal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:53 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyI get the difference, and yeah obviously insulting people is going to get backlash. that part isn’t controversial. but that’s not really what I’m talking about. you’re taking the worst version of the argument and using that as the default, which is kind of the point I’m making. a guy can say it the first way, completely neutral, and people will still jump to assuming he means the second. that’s where the framing comes in. the motive gets filled in for him before he even explains it. and on the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:48 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynynobody’s going to jail over having standards. that’s not the point. the point is the social framing affects how openly people can talk about their experiences and how seriously those experiences are taken. if a woman says “this is what i went through and this is how i’m protecting myself,” people engage with that. they try to understand it, even if they disagree. if a man says the same thing, the first move is usually to question his character instead of the situation that led him there. that di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:45 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynyyou’re saying “as long as it’s not hypocritical it’s fine,” but that’s not how it actually plays out. a man can have a consistent standard and still get labeled insecure or misogynistic just for having it. the hypocrisy argument gets used as a filter to discredit him, not to understand why he has the standard in the first place. and even the hypocrisy thing isn’t applied evenly. women can say “i want a man who earns more than me” or or short women who don’t date short men and nobody runs the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:41 AM |
| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and Misogynywomen absolutely do bring looks, height, money, sexual habits, social media behavior, exes, job stability, anger issues, attachment style, etc into their standards From past experiences. Women absolutely say these things irl and online and men do the same thing. body count, past cheating, still talking to exes, attention seeking online, partying lifestyle, whatever. those are also things that can affect how someone expects to be treated in a relationship. you don’t have to agree with every stand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:36 AM |
| 6 | A lot of male self-improvement advice is useless because it still keeps women at the centre.You can ignore it all you want, run from it, tell yourself anything else. or perhaps even other people You will never outrun hundreds of thousands of years of whats in our biological drive. The want, the need. This is our burden as men, and we will carry it as long as were alive. and maybe even after. Because while we can get as smart as we want. Everything around us will change. and it did. But sex? reproduction? natural and sexual selection? they never did. The whole point. Our Nature. or real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menthis is the closest you’ve come to just admitting the point you’re basically saying “yes, those observations are true, but RP is bad because of what gets built around them” fine. that’s at least a real distinction but then the argument should not be “RP observations are false.” it should be “RP takes true observations and wraps them in a bad worldview.” that’s a different argument and honestly, that’s part of what my post was getting at. people argue against the observations first, then when pre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 04:24 PM |
| 5 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenyou’re mixing the worst takes with the basic observation and treating them like the same thing yeah, some guys say dumb stuff like betabux or sloppy seconds at everything. i’m not defending that. but that’s not the only claim being made you’re taking the most cynical interpretation and acting like that’s the entire framework the actual point is simpler. attraction isn’t evenly distributed, and some traits get rewarded way more than others. that doesn’t mean “no one can love each other” or every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 04:18 PM |
| -3 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou’re still arguing the ideology instead of the claim I get that you don’t like TRP as a whole. you’ve made that clear. but that’s not what I’m asking you to defend or attack you keep bringing up worst case outcomes, bad actors, “female nature” being misused, whatever. ok. even if I grant all of that, it still doesn’t answer the actual question being asked you’re saying “this leads to bad worldviews” therefore the idea itself is bad. that’s not how it works. a description can be true and still … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 04:17 PM |
| – | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected mennobody said I’m literally silenced though I’m talking about how the conversation gets handled, not whether I’m allowed to type words on a forum Make and argument. or take your bullshit somewhere else | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 04:16 PM |
| -3 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou’re still making it about who’s allowed to speak instead of what’s being said saying “if you had a moral bone you wouldn’t associate with it” is just a way to disqualify people before the argument even starts. that’s not addressing the claim, that’s gatekeeping who gets to make it and on the “core text is bitter” point, even if you think the framing is negative, that still doesn’t automatically make the underlying observations false. tone and accuracy aren’t the same thing you keep circling b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 03:19 PM |
| -6 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menthat’s guilt by association though you’re basically saying “a lot of people who say RP are bitter or misogynistic, therefore the observations are wrong or should be dismissed.” I don’t think that follows If someone uses RP to say women should be controlled or subservient, then yeah, attack that. I’m not defending that you keep dragging it back to “TRP has bad people in it.” ok. plenty of movements have bad people in them. feminism has bitter misandrists, radfems, femcels, women who openly hate m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 03:02 PM |
| 3 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menYou keep hiding behind “red pill claims” instead of dealing with the claim in front of you. I’m not asking you to refute every guy online who ever said 80 20. I’m asking you about the actual point being made here. Attention and attraction cluster upward enough that different men are playing very different games. That is not meaningless. It’s pretty clear. A tall attractive socially confident guy does not experience dating the same way as a short average looking awkward guy. Not just “everyone is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:56 PM |
| 5 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menMe and you have been through this pipeline already in other posts. so im only going to explain this once more to you. and if you cant get it then oh well. nobody said they can’t overlap of course a guy can be kind, respectful, attractive, have status, money, personality, all of it. that’s obviously the ideal the point is those traits don’t carry equal weight a guy who is kind and respectful but lacks attraction triggers usually gets overlooked. a guy who has strong attraction triggers but is fla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:50 PM |
| -9 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menwide generalizations doesn’t automatically mean false. most dating discussions are generalizations. women talk about “men” constantly on here and nobody demands every sentence include 50 disclaimers misinterpreting studies is a separate argument. if a specific study is being misused, point it out. but just saying “you misinterpret studies” doesn’t answer the actual claim being made here and the “subservient” thing is another leap. saying women’s attraction follows certain patterns is not the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menBut humiliation doesn’t mean it has zero effect on perception. If anything it proves it had an effect. The lesson might be “men like that hurt me” but it can also still leave the comparison in her head. the next guy still gets measured against the excitement, attraction, status, confidence, whatever made her pick that man in the first place you’re treating it like women always learn downward. like she gets burned and then suddenly average stable men become genuinely exciting. I don’t think that’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:44 PM |
| 4 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menmen are constantly told be kind, be respectful, be a good guy, treat women right, have a good personality. then when that doesn’t work, the answer becomes well obviously you also need looks, money, confidence, height, status, ambition, social proof, etc Then you should be on the red pill side no? and no, I don’t expect attraction to be evenly distributed. I’m saying it isn’t. also “nobody is mad” doesn’t really work when the same guys get called bitter, insecure, misogynistic, socially stunted, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:35 PM |
| -2 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menthis is closer, but i still think you’re downplaying the effect even if sex isn’t the end goal for women, access still matters because it shapes perception. if a woman can get attention, intimacy, validation, situationships, or sex from a guy above her relationship level, it can still affect what feels “normal” or desirable to her you’re saying it’s meaningless because it doesn’t lead to love or marriage, but i don’t buy that. people don’t walk away from those experiences with zero effect on the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou’re assigning me a specific claim and then saying I have to prove that exact version or it’s dismissed. that’s not how this works I never said “the vast majority of women are all chasing the exact same small group of men.” you keep repeating that because it’s easier to knock down my claim is that attention and attraction cluster upward enough that different tiers of men have very different dating experiences. that’s a different claim than your exaggerated version you’re also flipping burden o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:22 PM |
| 4 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menNobody is shocked that women want men they’re attracted to. That’s not the argument. The argument is that people pretend attraction is mostly about being a good decent guy, then when men point out that looks, height, status, money, confidence, social proof etc matter a lot, suddenly it becomes “well duh women want value.” ok then. That’s the point. You’re saying RP discovered nothing, but then agreeing with the thing RP keeps saying. Women want attraction plus value. Cool. So why does it become … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:19 PM |
| 5 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menthen we agree on the reality, you just don’t like the tone that’s basically my whole point if it’s “water is wet”, then res pill is not wrong. it’s just annoying to hear from the guys who got the bad end of it also calling it whining is doing the same thing again. it shifts the focus from whether the observation is true to whether the man saying it sounds attractive enough while saying it people are allowed to complain about unfair or harsh realities. women complain about dating all the time and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:12 PM |
| 7 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menthis is actually one of the better replies because we agree on more than it seems but I still think you’re framing the average guy’s complaint too narrowly. it’s not just “I can’t pull a 10 so women are evil”. yeah some dudes think like that, and they’re delusional. but a lot of guys are talking about being unwanted by women they see as roughly on their own level too and saying 80 percent of men can get casual sex if they put in work, but mostly with 2s and 3s, kind of proves the imbalance. beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:09 PM |
| -1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected men“as a whole, maybe” is the whole argument. nobody said every individual woman is doing the exact same thing every second of her life but the “average women don’t have access to those men” part is where it gets ehhhh. because access doesn’t only mean marriage. attention, casual sex, situationships, validation, being entertained by higher value men, all of that changes expectations too average women may not lock down those men, but many can still get some level of access to them. average men usual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou still haven’t really refuted the degree, you just keep saying “no credible evidence” and treating that as the refutation also you’re sneaking in the strongest possible version again. “vast majority of women are all going after the same small percentage of top men” makes it sound like every woman is chasing the exact same 12 guys in town. that’s not the point the point is that attention and desire cluster upward. not perfectly, not universally, but heavily enough that men experience dating ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menif it’s obvious that looks, status, confidence, etc play a big role, then saying attraction isn’t primarily virtue based shouldn’t be controversial. yet you’re calling that false so which part do you actually disagree with also “we always knew” doesn’t really match how people respond in practice. if it was truly accepted, guys pointing it out wouldn’t get hit with “you’re bitter” or “you’re misogynistic” right away. it would just be “yeah that’s how it is” For something so obvious. People sure p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected mennothing I said there is “blackpill”. saying improvement has limits for most people isn’t the same as saying nothing matters or it’s all over But red pill and black pill can overlap alot you can improve and still end up average. that’s reality for most people in anything, not just dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyeah, I know what “I am the prize” means. I’m saying inner frame and outer market value are not the same thing you can believe your time is valuable and still have low demand. both can be true at once this is where you keep sliding away from the dating market point into mindset coaching. sure, a man shouldn’t pedestalize women or give attention to anyone who doesn’t earn it. agreed but if women don’t want his time or attention in the first place, then “I am the prize” is mostly self respect, not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:47 PM |
| -1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menoutrage content gets rewarded. I don’t disagree. A lot of RP content is rage slop now and some guys use it as an excuse to stay bitter instead of improve but that still doesn’t answer the actual point. People don’t only react badly to the cringe content. they react badly even when the claim is simple, like “women’s attraction is heavily influenced by looks, status, height, confidence and social proof, and outcomes cluster because of that” that gets called toxic too also the “10 instagram model f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:44 PM |
| 9 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou’re halfway agreeing and then still framing it like I’m asking for something else if dating is inherently discriminatory and not equal, then pointing out uneven outcomes isn’t confusion. it’s just describing what you just admitted nobody said anything about equal rights in dating or forcing women to choose differently. just saying. that part keeps getting added in like a strawman by people but anyway also “demanding attention for all men” isn’t what’s being said either. acknowledging a patter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou’re doing the exact motte and bailey move you’re accusing me of you retreat to “attractive people get more options” because it’s safe and obvious, then act like that’s all that’s being discussed. nobody here thinks that part is some groundbreaking discovery the actual point is about degree, not existence is the distribution fairly balanced with a slight edge to attractive men, or is it heavily skewed where a smaller group of men gets a disproportionate amount of attention, especially in early… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:36 PM |
| 3 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menIf a guy has to raise LMS, learn game, build status, improve looks, improve money, improve frame, all just to get treated as a viable option, more often then not. those things arent going to improve much. men should get past pure complaining.(even though it fine to complain IMO) I’m not arguing for sitting around crying forever. but there’s a difference between complaining and describing what’s happening sometimes people call it “complaining” because they don’t like the description. especially w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:31 PM |
| 4 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menAbundance mentality is useful advice. I’m not denying that. but advice and reality are not the same thing. a guy can have the mindset of not over investing in one woman, but if he gets almost no interest, then practically he does not have abundance. that’s not “picking and choosing”, that’s separating the motivational part from the dating market reality same with “I am the prize”. good frame for self respect. but saying “I am the prize” doesn’t magically make women treat you like one. the market… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:23 PM |
| 4 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menth you start by admitting the base point is already known, then spend the rest of the comment attacking the kind of men who say it that’s the pattern i’m talking about also bringing up autism and “lack of socialization” is just an insult dressed up as an opinion. it doesn’t answer the argument. it just frames the person making it as defective so you don’t have to deal with what was said obviously saying “all women only care about money” is dumb. but that’s not the only claim being made. you’re t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:17 PM |
| 5 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou’re fine with it when it’s framed as self improvement and “how do i adapt to what women select for”. the second it shifts into just stating the pattern more bluntly, now it’s rage bait and cringe nothing about “women select for height, looks, status, confidence” suddenly becomes false just because some guys say it in an angry way “understand exactly what women were selecting for”. ok… so what are they selecting for then. because if we say it plainly, people start getting uncomfortable again a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:09 PM |
| 5 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menyou didn’t argue the point, you labeled it misogynistic and misandrist and moved on. that’s not proving it wrong, that’s trying to discredit it so it doesn’t need to be engaged with and policing doesn’t have to mean someone physically stopping speech. it’s social. labeling it toxic, getting it removed, pushing it into fringe spaces, discouraging people from even talking about it without being attacked. that’s still a form of control over what gets said and where if it was just wrong, why not jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menon the first one, men can be selective in theory, sure. but that only works if you actually have options to select from. telling a guy with no attention to have an “abundance mindset” is like telling a broke guy to have investment strategy. the principle isn’t wrong, the reality is just different depending on where you stand second point kind of helps what i’m saying. if the loudest voices aren’t even following RP, then why does the pushback always get directed at the core observations instead o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:59 PM |
| -4 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected men“Language matters” usually means the observation is allowed only if it’s said in the least uncomfortable way possible. “Attractive people have more options” is acceptable because it sounds neutral and harmless. But when a man says the dating market heavily rewards a small group of attractive men while average men struggle more, suddenly the issue becomes his tone, not whether the pattern is true. Also you changed the claim. Nobody said “women flock only top tier guys” as in literally every woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:52 PM |
| 4 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenYou said. Women not wanting to date certain men, even if it is the majority of them is not wrongful Ok? Where did i say it was wrong? otherwise a useless comment that didnt bring anything to the debate. the issue is that MOST of the dialogue IS MORALISING women’s choices that are inconvenient to men. The red pill is literally taking morals out of womens dating options. Beta buxx, Dual mating strategy, women will pick the attractive asshole over the good man shes not attracted to. All of these ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:00 PM |
| 6 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenYou ignored alot in this post for you to even have this comment. Please tell me how stating and observing womens dating choices. is trying to control womens dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 11:38 AM |
| 5 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenits a scenario lady, its just a scenario. every woman, wants a tall attractive good man. But IF god damnit. IF she had to choose between the two when its a situation when its either or shes taking the tall good looking man thats bad for her over the nice guy thats shes not attracted to. THAT TELLS MEN, THAT ATTRACTIVENESS TRUMPS PERSONALITY AND ITS WAY MORE IMPORTANT. This is a good for men to KNOW .THIS IS NOT telling women to not date men their not attracted to. THe personality guy is in the e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 09:51 AM |
| 5 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenShe can get it all, its possible. but if it comes down to either or. shes taking the tall good looking man thats bad for her over the nice guy thats shes not attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 09:09 AM |
| 8 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenYou’re still not really separating two things. If a guy says “women are stupid children who need to be dominated,” then yeah, ignore him. I’m not asking anyone to treat hate like wisdom. But that doesn’t mean every harsher observation about female selection is automatically hate. That’s the leap you keep making. You’re basically saying “because a lot of RP guys say it in the ugliest way possible, the underlying pattern doesn’t exist.” Bad packaging doesn’t make the pattern fake. And no, the trai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 03:30 AM |
| 11 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenWhere in any of my replies I said women shouldnt date men their attracted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 03:13 AM |
| 11 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenThey’re all part of the picture, sure. But they don’t carry equal weight. Looks, height, status, confidence, and social proof usually decide whether a man even gets in the door. Personality matters more after attraction is already there. A respectful average guy with a good personality is still often invisible if he doesn’t pass the attraction threshold first. Nobody is saying personality is irrelevant. The argument is that personality gets oversold to men as the main thing, while the traits tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:52 AM |
| 9 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenThen argue with the men making threats. I’m not defending that, and I don’t think women should lower their standards because they’re scared of male violence. That’s insane. But you can’t take the worst guy in the room and use him to shut down every conversation about dating patterns. There’s a difference between saying “women better change or else” and saying “men should understand what women actually select for.” My argument is the second one. Women don’t have to lower their standards. Men also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:40 AM |
| 10 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenIf everyone already knows women tend to want taller, attractive, sociable men with resources, then why does it become controversial when men say those traits matter way more than “just be nice and have a good personality”? The red pill should be more so agreed by women then , those guys existed in school. That’s literally when a lot of men first noticed the pattern. The good-looking/social guys got treated differently early, then later men got told it was mostly about maturity, kindness, respect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:34 AM |
| 18 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI never said average men are “forever alone.” The point is not that average men get nothing. The point is that average men often get a very different version of dating. less enthusiasm, less forgiveness, more conditions, more proving, more “what do you bring to the table?”. That’s where the “settling” argument comes from. It’s not just “she dated an average man, therefore she settled.” It’s when the type of man she was most excited by when she had options is clearly different from the type of ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:24 AM |
| 8 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenYou’re not arguing against my claim. You’re dragging in every ugly RP claim you can find, then saying I’m responsible for defending all of it before my actual point can even be discussed. That’s not an argument. That’s guilt by association. I’m not trying to redefine red pill as some harmless Disney version. There are bitter guys, extreme claims, cringe terms, bad evo-psych, all of that. Fine. But none of that changes the basic point I’m making: Women’s choices reveal patterns, and men are allow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 02:17 AM |
| 16 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenNobody is confused that women date employed men. The “gotcha” is when people pretend that’s just some small preference instead of admitting male value is heavily tied to performance, income, status, ambition, and usefulness. on top of physical demands at taht Women can say “I want an employed man.” Fine. Normal. But then don’t act like it came out of nowhere or its a incels bitter rant when men notice that love and attraction for men is often conditional on what they can do, provide, or become o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:58 AM |
| 11 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI’m not gaslighting anything. You’re taking the most extreme internet version of RP and pretending that’s the only claim being made. “Top 20%” is usually shorthand for uneven outcomes, not some exact scientific caste system where every man below it is doomed. The point is that attraction and attention are not evenly distributed, and certain men get a wildly different dating experience than others. some guys overstate it with the “alpha widowed/cock carousel/beta bux” language. But the reason tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:54 AM |
| 9 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control women“Control women’s behavior” how though? If a guy says “I think these standards are unrealistic/hypocritical,” that isn’t control. That’s criticism. Women criticize men’s dating behavior constantly and nobody calls that “trying to control men.” They call it having standards, warning other women, discussing patterns, etc. And no, you haven’t proven the observation wrong by saying RP has an agenda. Those are two different claims. Red pill can have bad actors, exaggerations, and dumb narratives, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:40 AM |
| 23 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenYes, some guys moralize it and go overboard. I’m not defending every “women bad” take on here. But women do the same thing when they talk about male behavior and turn it into some broader social critique, so I don’t buy that only men are suddenly wrong for noticing patterns. The reason it becomes more than “women like tall attractive men” is because people don’t stop there. They’ll admit it in the abstract, then deny how much it affects outcomes. They’ll say looks matter, then act like strugglin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:29 AM |
| 24 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenThat may be true for some guys here, but then argue with those guys. My point is specific. women can choose who they want, and men can still talk about what those choices reveal. If every RP argument gets treated as “you secretly want control,” then nobody has to engage with the actual pattern being discussed. It just becomes guilt by association instead of an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenIve tried a while ago last year. honestly. But it didn't work for me. In the models thinking process (that it shows you). it says something along the lines of. "I am unable to stereotype, or make generalizing statements of any group of people" or something like that. and then does something else of what I was trying to do. or dance around it. or soften the language heavily to the point it cant be used in any real discussion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:08 AM |
| 11 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI’m not defending every dumb thing every red pill guy has ever said. I’m saying the specific argument here is about selection patterns. Calling standards “delusional” is not the same thing as saying women shouldn’t be allowed to have them. Men can think a standard is unrealistic, self-serving, or hypocritical without wanting laws or force involved. And bringing up mass shooters is just guilt by association. By that logic, no group could ever make observations about anything if some unstable pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 01:02 AM |
| 6 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI mostly agree everyone acts in self-interest. That’s basically the point. But that doesn’t make the observation meaningless. If women have an incentive to downplay certain selection patterns because admitting them reduces leverage, then men have an incentive to point those patterns out so they stop making decisions based on comforting lies. And yeah, men care about looks too. Nobody denies that. The difference is when men point out women’s preferences, it gets reframed as “you want control.” I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:57 AM |
| 4 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenI dont use it as i said. All Flagship models have heavy guardrails to prevent the AI from saying offensive and damaging things. Especially as they upgrade and new tools. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenThe fact that you’re arguing about my typing style instead of the point kind of proves the issue. Yes, people write differently depending on whether they’re making an OP, replying fast, or editing something to be more readable. Mind you. there's going to be many people to respond to. But even if you thought the formatting was too clean, that still doesn’t answer the argument. The point was simple: noticing women’s dating patterns is not the same thing as wanting to control women’s choices. If th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:47 AM |
| 5 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenThis is not the first time ive been acused of using an AI. People are so used unformatted and sloppy posts and responses. That anything thats structured seems like AI. First and foremost. Chat gpt has heavy boundaries and guard rails. Getting it to say anything remotely agreeing with the red pill and views on women works rarely or not at all. I run four businesses. All im doing is sending professional emails all day that are structured. to be send down with clear instructions. EDIT: If anything … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:32 AM |
| 33 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenBecause “unfair” doesn’t automatically mean “someone needs to be forced.” Men call it unfair because the advice they were sold was fake. “Be kind, be respectful, be stable, personality matters most,” etc. Then they watch the actual dating market reward looks, height, status, confidence, and dominance way more than anyone wanted to admit. ana also shuts put alot of men from experiencing it. Pointing that out isn’t saying women need to be controlled. It’s saying men should stop being lied to about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 12:22 AM |
| 11 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesThis is a different argument now. The original claim was that you were arguing for was that red pill causes are a bigger threat than feminist causes. Now you’re shifting it to “male extremism is worse than female extremism.” Those are not the same thing. Yes, men commit more physical violence. Nobody denied that. But “men commit worse violent crimes” does not automatically mean “red pill ideology is a bigger threat than feminism.” You still have to prove that connection instead of just attaching… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 11:49 PM |
| 11 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesYou’re moving the goalpost into “which sex has committed worse historical crimes,” but that was never the actual argument. Nobody is denying that men commit more physical violence. Murder, rape, slavery, etc. are obviously worse than manipulation, false accusations, divorce exploitation, paternity fraud, or using men for resources. I’m not pretending those are morally equal. But that doesn’t prove red pill is a bigger threat than feminism. You’re taking the worst things some men do, then staplin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 11:28 PM |
| 7 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesno where in the article it says the boy was red pilled or in the manosphere of any kind. Again taking the worst of any male behavior and tying it to red pill because you dont like the red pill or the talking points | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 11:24 PM |
| 8 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesThat still doesn’t prove red pill is “calling to revive” those things. You’re treating fringe ragebait as the core argument. Most red pill arguments are not “women shouldn’t vote” or “women shouldn’t work.” They’re about attraction, hypergamy, divorce incentives, male disposability, sexual leverage, and how men should stop being naive. You can disagree with those points, but pretending the whole thing is a political campaign to enslave women is exaggeration. And yes, the West isn’t the center of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 11:06 PM |
| – | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesall extra glaze is appreciated. no such thing as a donut with too much glaze | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:59 PM |
| 12 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesYou’re taking male criminality and historical oppression, then using that to indict red pill today. But “men have done bad things historically” is not the same argument as “red pill is the bigger threat right now.” Nobody is saying women shouldn’t defend their rights. The point is that some angry guy online saying “repeal the 19th” is not the same as a serious mainstream political movement in the West. Redpill is mainstream but not backed in the ways i mentioned Meanwhile, feminism actually does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:50 PM |
| – | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causeslemme glaze myself a bit cause this is one of my better arguments in my book | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:38 PM |
| 41 | Red pill causes are a bigger threat than the worst of feminists causesThis argument only works if you judge red pill by the most unhinged men online, while judging feminism by its cleanest, most socially acceptable version. I’m not defending men saying women shouldn’t vote or work. That’s stupid, fringe, and politically irrelevant. Some bitter guy saying “repeal the 19th” on the internet is not the same as an actual movement with institutional power. Women are not losing the vote. Women are not being removed from the workplace. But feminist ideas actually do have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 10:31 PM |
| 4 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵i find it funny people suddenly care about young men when it comes to the red pill, but before it was mainstream, men were still having a $uicide issues for decades. a homeless issue for decades. war vets, The clear gradual decrease in friendships and male spaces in decades. yet when it comes to this ideology suddenly becomes top priority to "protect" young men, so much that red pill was a labeled borderline extremist by FBI. but, if i can recall the movement didnt say #killallwomen did it? or a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:18 PM |
| 4 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵i mean it will just be a sub for these men to agree and debate with each other, incels dont always agree with redpillers. and vice versa, also black pilers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:09 PM |
| 1 | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵I meeaannn. im not saying its anything specifically but something is definitly going on. People can easily forget the homeless man saying he slapped epstein with a double cheese burger with with extra mayo back in 1995. youll remember for a couple days then youl forget and go about your life. thats what the red pill should have been too if it was just losers that dont really matter. but for some reason. it isnt. even though it has no impact in womens dating live in their abundance. it would be a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:03 PM |
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